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nines09  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:24:35pm

I wouldn’t be so quick to jettison AG Jeff Sessions if I were Trump. If you tire of wiping your ass with the constitution and rule of law, it’s nice to have Jeffry around to wipe your ample ass with.

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teleskiguy  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:27:03pm

You know what’s infuriating about this? Sean Spicer is a millionaire, he can afford a mini-fridge and then some. Instead, he had to be a dick about it with lower staff on the totem pole.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:28:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:29:45pm
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No Depression  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:30:20pm

I wasn’t ready to believe what Keith Olbermann was about to say before watching that video, but damn those quotes from Republican Senators are just brutal. Especially the one saying that nobody in the Senate fears Trump, not even the pages.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:32:36pm

OT, just because…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:33:43pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:34:54pm
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Myron Falwell  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:36:25pm

Reposted from downstairs:
re: #393 Stanley Sea

Pol Pot territory
Hitler territory

And he has a GOP rank-and-file intent on passing their own Enabling Act… coupled with a crooked FCC lusting after the killing of Net Neutrality so dissenting opinion can be shut down and destroyed, and a two-faced Goebbels-esque information ministry called Sinclair Broadcasting and Fox News set to further poison people’s minds and make them willful collaborators.

At least when this Reich instigates a nuclear war mankind (boy, what an oxymoron!) will be eliminated quickly.

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No Depression  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:36:48pm

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I still can’t believe that someone this ridiculous is the President. How does someone listen to this guy and not laugh and/or get angry at just how stupid he is.

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Weaselone  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:38:17pm

re: #11 No Depression

I still can’t believe that someone this ridiculous is the President. How does someone listen to this guy and not laugh and/or get angry at just how stupid he is.

Because they’re thinking thinking about how pissed off you are listening to him and about how he was elected.

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TedStriker  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:40:50pm

re: #10 Myron Falwell

Reposted from downstairs:

And he has a GOP rank-and-file intent on passing their own Enabling Act… coupled with a crooked FCC lusting after the killing of Net Neutrality so dissenting opinion can be shut down and destroyed, and a two-faced Goebbels-esque information ministry called Sinclair Broadcasting and Fox News set to further poison people’s minds and make them willful collaborators.

At least when this Reich instigates a nuclear war mankind (boy, what an oxymoron!) will be eliminated quickly.

I’m not one to be overly optimistic about Trump and the GOP Congress, but, damn, you’re in full-blown “woe is us, the end is nigh!” mode…and it won’t help a damn thing.

You gonna be a sad sack, laying down for them to run over you, or are you going to fucking man up and fight as hard as you can against all of this however you can, as long as you can? Given your post history as these past few months, I think I know the answer to that.

Damnit, I’m getting really tired of all of the defeatism out there these past few months, even with some Lizards here; if defeat is all you see, defeat is all you will get.

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teleskiguy  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:41:00pm

She recites the song all up to “mama mia.”

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Charles Johnson  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:42:53pm

re: #5 No Depression

I wasn’t ready to believe what Keith Olbermann was about to say before watching that video, but damn those quotes from Republican Senators are just brutal. Especially the one saying that nobody in the Senate fears Trump, not even the pages.

I know, I almost didn’t post this one, because my first impression was that Keith was being way too optimistic. But I changed my mind after watching it.

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MsJ  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:43:28pm

re: #14 teleskiguy

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She recites the song all up to “mama mia.”

For me she went all the way to the end. #dying

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:46:09pm

re: #11 No Depression

I still can’t believe that someone this ridiculous is the President. How does someone listen to this guy and not laugh and/or get angry at just how stupid he is.

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with him? He has such delusions of grandeur about himself but somehow Obama was arrogant because of “I” in speeches. Meanwhile Trump thinks he actually belongs on Mount Rushmore.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:47:03pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:47:22pm

Let’s be clear about things, if Trump’s approval ratings were still 50%+, the GOP would still be fellating him daily. They don’t oppose the man, they oppose the negative effect he’s having on their chances of reelection.

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EPR-radar  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:47:24pm

re: #10 Myron Falwell

Reposted from downstairs:

And he has a GOP rank-and-file intent on passing their own Enabling Act… coupled with a crooked FCC lusting after the killing of Net Neutrality so dissenting opinion can be shut down and destroyed, and a two-faced Goebbels-esque information ministry called Sinclair Broadcasting and Fox News set to further poison people’s minds and make them willful collaborators.

At least when this Reich instigates a nuclear war mankind (boy, what an oxymoron!) will be eliminated quickly.

Sure this is what many RWNJs want. They have wanted this for decades, and are closer to getting it now than at any other time since the New Deal.

Whether they get this or not still remains to be seen.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:47:58pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

He is not fit to be the “snot” from TR’s nose.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:48:17pm

To really dump Trump, the GOP senators would have to accept a setback on their most cherished principles, the goals for which they have worked and whored their entire adulterous lives: tax cuts for the rich, repeal of environmental laws, and an end to the minimum wage. Do they really think he is that big a threat? Perhaps they think he is a risk to their agenda itself, social chaos and civil war are not good for business either.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:48:43pm

re: #19 Targetpractice

Let’s be clear about things, if Trump’s approval ratings were still 50%+, the GOP would still be fellating him daily. They don’t oppose the man, they oppose the negative effect he’s having on their chances of reelection.

Which is what it was for a lot of the never Trumpers in Congress. They still vote with him over 90% of the time.

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Skip Intro  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:48:56pm

re: #19 Targetpractice

So who is it in the GOP congress who opposes Trump?

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gocart mozart  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:49:07pm

Trump, just the honest parts.

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EPR-radar  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:49:16pm

re: #19 Targetpractice

Let’s be clear about things, if Trump’s approval ratings were still 50%+, the GOP would still be fellating him daily. They don’t oppose the man, they oppose the negative effect he’s having on their chances of reelection.

Of course. That’s just realpolitik. But vs. tr*mp I’ll take whatever I can get, because he really is uniquely corrupting for anything in the same area code he’s presently polluting.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:49:23pm

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

To really dump Trump, the GOP senators would have to accept a setback on their most cherished principles, the goals for which they have worked and whored their entire adulterous lives: tax cuts for the rich, repeal of environmental laws, and an end to the minimum wage. Do they really think he is that big a threat? Perhaps they think he is a risk to their agenda itself, social chaos and civil war are not good for business either.

Exactly. Admitting Trump is wrong and fucked up is to admit that their ideology is and they ain’t doing that.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:50:05pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

The other 4 figures would come to life and roll themselves off to Colorado rather than share space with him.

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Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:50:36pm

re: #24 Skip Intro

So who is it in the GOP congress who opposes Trump?

I’m not sure there’s a clear answer anymore.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:52:01pm

re: #13 TedStriker

I’m not one to be overly optimistic about Trump and the GOP Congress, but, damn, you’re in full-blown “woe is me” mode…and it won’t help a damn thing.

You gonna be a sad sack, laying down for them to run over you, or are you going to fucking man up and fight as hard as you can against all of this however you can, as long as you can?

Given your post history as these past few months, I think I know the answer to that…

Seeing as how they manipulated me through years of lies and deception until last year… yes, I do take it very hard on myself.

It’s perilously hard to be an optimist with all that against me, and then shitstains like today happen.

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EPR-radar  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:52:31pm

re: #27 HappyWarrior

Exactly. Admitting Trump is wrong and fucked up is to admit that their ideology is and they ain’t doing that.

I don’t see this. The directive could go out from Murdoch today and FoxNews could demand the impeachment of the Democrat criminal tr*mp to be replaced by Pence (who would also give them everything they want, with much less pointless drama). tr*mp has no ideology, so booting him from office carries no ideological implications.

The only downside to this for the GOP is that it would piss off tr*mp voters, who like tr*mp a lot more than they like the GOP.

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TedStriker  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:53:19pm

re: #28 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The other 4 figures would come to life and roll themselves off to Colorado rather than share space with him.

I’d go for Mt. Rushmore committing statuary seppuku by crumbling and burying Trump, Pence, McConnell, and the rest of the craven, gutless GOP under a mountain of rubble.

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ipsos  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:56:23pm

If you’re still following the way-OT misadventures of my little guy and Camp Invention, here’s today’s sad sequel (and if you’re not, please enjoy the rest of this thread with my compliments…)

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Charles Johnson  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:56:56pm
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TedStriker  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:57:03pm

re: #30 Myron Falwell

Seeing as how they manipulated me through years of lies and deception until last year… yes, I do take it very hard on myself.

It’s perilously hard to be an optimist with all that against me, and then shitstains like today happen.

You really think you’re the only one conservatives and the GOP have led by the nose and clouded your mind until the scales finally fell off of your eyes and you saw reality?

Gimme a break…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:57:11pm

re: #21 PhillyPretzel

He is not fit to be the “snot” from TR’s nose.

Now there is a Photoshop waiting to be created!

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Skip Intro  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:57:28pm

So when does Trump start naming airports and national parks after himself, with the license fee for the use of his name?

Would anybody in the GOP oppose him?

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allegro  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:57:51pm

I C_Led… OT repost from the last thread…

Kitten update… Princess Onyx and Little Lord Storm have reached the ripe old age of 5-1/2 weeks. They are fully weaned and have mastered the litter box. (Yay us!) Their little personalities are really starting to come out and shine. Brightly. Aaaaaand they got me. In spite of my protestations and all of the very good and valid reasons to not do this, it appears that my family has increased by two. Forever. I love them. They love each other and they love me. How can I say no to this?

Home alterations are required to incorporate felines into a human-dog-cockatoo-fish world contained in a 34’ motorhome. They begin asap since the kittens are fast outgrowing the bathroom. We’re gonna soon find out how good a mom I am managing this mix. I’m fucking Gaia herself if I can pull this off without blood being drawn. LOL

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EPR-radar  Jul 25, 2017 • 5:58:29pm

re: #30 Myron Falwell

Seeing as how they manipulated me through years of lies and deception until last year… yes, I do take it very hard on myself.

It’s perilously hard to be an optimist with all that against me, and then shitstains like today happen.

I finally turned once and for all against the GOP in the first term of W Bush, so I can’t imagine what it would be like to make that conversion right as the tr*mp shit show starts up and “succeeds” unreasonably well.

It’s probably like a nightmare of running out of Hell but the hellish scenery catches up with you faster than you can run.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:00:49pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

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Just like a Republican. //

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MsJ  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:00:58pm

re: #38 allegro

Pictures! Pictures!

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No Depression  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:02:14pm

re: #31 EPR-radar

I don’t see this. The directive could go out from Murdoch today and FoxNews could demand the impeachment of the Democrat criminal tr*mp to be replaced by Pence (who would also give them everything they want, with much less pointless drama). tr*mp has no ideology, so booting him from office carries no ideological implications.

The only downside to this for the GOP is that it would piss off tr*mp voters, who like tr*mp a lot more than they like the GOP.

True, but most Trump voters aren’t true believers in Trump IMO; they’re just rallying around him because he has an R next to his name. And it wouldn’t surprise me if his sudden about-face with Sessions causes Republican loyalists to sour on him. Because these more “levelheaded” Trump voters probably recognize that Jeff Sessions is the most effective member of Trump’s administration, and getting rid of him would jeopardize their cherished white supremacist agenda.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:03:19pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

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But my idiot sister said Hillary’s BAD! And Not A Real Liberal!
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ObserverArt  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:03:19pm

re: #17 HappyWarrior

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with him? He has such delusions of grandeur about himself but somehow Obama was arrogant because of “I” in speeches. Meanwhile Trump thinks he actually belongs on Mount Rushmore.

I guess we are finding out why some of the psychologist are now saying it’s okay to diagnose Trump.

It is getting harder to deny it and easier to see. He is a very strange man.

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EPR-radar  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:03:29pm

re: #37 Skip Intro

So when does Trump start naming airports and national parks after himself, with the license fee for the use of his name?

Would anybody in the GOP oppose him?

If tr*mp were to drive up to Fort Knox or the NY Fed and have his goons load up the truck with bars of gold bullion, who in the Republican party would oppose this?

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teleskiguy  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:03:46pm

I guess I should get used to people who wish death upon their political opponents.

*sigh*

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Decatur Deb  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:04:41pm

re: #37 Skip Intro

So when does Trump start naming airports and national parks after himself, with the license fee for the use of his name?

Would anybody in the GOP oppose him?

Donald J. Trump State Park

en.wikipedia.org

Donated to NY. Turned out to be a tax scam.

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gocart mozart  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:05:02pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:05:27pm

I’m trying to be hopeful, but I can’t help feeling a bit like:

PLANET OF THE APES (1968) - Lady Liberty Destroyed

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No Depression  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:06:01pm

re: #48 gocart mozart

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I have a fun game to play with Bernie Stans: Who Said It? Hillary or Bernie?

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gocart mozart  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:07:12pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:08:06pm

re: #51 gocart mozart

Vice Principal in a ’90s teen movie.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:08:21pm

re: #42 No Depression

True, but most Trump voters aren’t true believers in Trump IMO; they’re just rallying around him because he has an R next to his name. And it wouldn’t surprise me if his sudden about-face with Sessions causes Republican loyalists to sour on him. Because these more “levelheaded” Trump voters probably recognize that Jeff Sessions is the most effective member of Trump’s administration, and getting rid of him would jeopardize their cherished white supremacist agenda.

Indeed, I just read as much as I could stand of a Victor Davis Hanson drool saying Trump should lay off Sessions.

I’m not convinced that MOST Trump voters aren’t True Believers, however. As I’ve said before, Trump didn’t hijack the GOP, he crystallized it. But a lot of Conservatives found Sessions’ endorsement to be reason enough to accept Trump, and nobody’s been more loyal than Sessions, damn his eternal soul bless his heart. Trump’s amazingly cynical attacks on the man are giving a number of Conservatives pause.

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EPR-radar  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:09:03pm

re: #42 No Depression

True, but most Trump voters aren’t true believers in Trump IMO; they’re just rallying around him because he has an R next to his name. And it wouldn’t surprise me if his sudden about-face with Sessions causes Republican loyalists to sour on him. Because these more “levelheaded” Trump voters probably recognize that Jeff Sessions is the most effective member of Trump’s administration, and getting rid of him would jeopardize their cherished white supremacist agenda.

That’s the real question IMO. The GOP base consists of ideologues and assholes, with a significant amount of overlap. For the ones that do overlap, which is more important, being an asshole or ideological discipline?

Remember that tr*mp in his campaign suggested that the rich should pay more in taxes, which is the ultimate GOP heresy. Therefore tr*mp is pure asshole. The ideological discipline seen in his cabinet picks is because Bannon (who is an ideologue) gives him a list of hard core RWNJs, and then tr*mp picks from the list according to who cringes and scrapes most satisfactorily.

But we just don’t know the numbers for the ideologue faction vs. the asshole faction of the GOP.

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allegro  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:09:35pm

re: #41 MsJ

Pictures! Pictures!

You don’t know how hard I’ve tried. These little guys are FAST! By the time I tap the screen they’re gone or just a blur. And my camera sucks. Gotta get a friend to come over to even the odds and bring a better camera.

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nines09  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:10:21pm

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Renaissance_Man  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:11:00pm

re: #42 No Depression

True, but most Trump voters aren’t true believers in Trump IMO; they’re just rallying around him because he has an R next to his name. And it wouldn’t surprise me if his sudden about-face with Sessions causes Republican loyalists to sour on him. Because these more “levelheaded” Trump voters probably recognize that Jeff Sessions is the most effective member of Trump’s administration, and getting rid of him would jeopardize their cherished white supremacist agenda.

I actually think you’re wrong here - that may be true of a small minority of Trump voters, but I think the majority are true Trump believers. They either love him because he’s ‘politically incorrect’, which means they are assholes just like him and they love that someone can get away with being an asshole publicly every day, or they love him because he normalises evil, such as why the Nazis love him. But many are true believers mostly because FOX tells them to be. They see on FOX that people they hate hate him, so they love him, because they have no other purpose in life now that they have given over total emotional control to FOX.

In a sense, the only thing that would turn the majority of Trump voters is for FOX to turn on him. Which won’t happen unless something significant changes, because FOX can’t survive just on cheerleading. They have to stoke anger and hate, and Trump draws opposition, so they can stoke hate of Trump haters in their cult.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:11:52pm

re: #53 Blind Frog Belly White

Indeed, I just read as much as I could stand of a Victor Davis Hanson drool saying Trump should lay off Sessions.

I’m not convinced that MOST Trump voters aren’t True Believers, however. As I’ve said before, Trump didn’t hijack the GOP, he crystallized it. But a lot of Conservatives found Sessions’ endorsement to be reason enough to accept Trump, and nobody’s been more loyal than Sessions, damn his eternal soul bless his heart. Trump’s amazingly cynical attacks on the man are giving a number of Conservatives pause.

I have a professor friend who does military history. Of VDH he says (paraphrasing), ‘have to respect him on Greco-Roman world, but he invariably draws the wrong conclusions on our contemporary society.’

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:12:37pm

re: #52 Decatur Deb

Vice Principal in a ’90s teen movie.

‘Dis guy?

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Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:12:58pm

re: #51 gocart mozart

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“Yes, it’s true. This man has no dick.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:15:32pm

re: #59 Blind Frog Belly White

‘Dis guy?

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That’s 80’s. I see Scar more as a sleazy businessman type than academic administrator but YMMV.

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Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:16:25pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

That’s 80’s. I see Scar more as a sleazy businessman type than academic administrator but YMMV.

So basically the bad guy in every 80s film. “I’m not evil, I’m a businessman!”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:16:54pm

re: #62 Targetpractice

So basically the bad guy in every 80s film. “I’m not evil, I’m a businessman!”

Yep.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:17:43pm

if you’re wondering what this has to do with anything…
Join the club.

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Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:18:43pm

re: #64 FormerDirtDart

if you’re wondering what this has to do with anything…
Join the club.

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People still give a fuck what Romneybot is doing these days?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:18:57pm

re: #64 FormerDirtDart

if you’re wondering what this has to do with anything…
Join the club.

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Speaking of business douches.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:19:11pm

re: #65 Targetpractice

People still give a fuck what Romneybot is doing these days?

Mitt 2024!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:19:17pm
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No Depression  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:19:35pm

re: #62 Targetpractice

So basically the bad guy in every 80s film. “I’m not evil, I’m a businessman!”

That’s basically everyone in the Trump White House. Maybe we live in an 80s movie, and all we need to beat these guys is the power of teenage rebellion.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:19:47pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

That’s 80’s. I see Scar more as a sleazy businessman type than academic administrator but YMMV.

Sprechen sie talk?

Hans, bubby!
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Charles Johnson  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:20:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:20:56pm

re: #46 teleskiguy

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I guess I should get used to people who wish death upon their political opponents.

*sigh*

Hey, at least they aren’t wishing death on fascists…

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Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:21:21pm

See, I don’t see Mooch as the mastermind, more the weaselly toady who even the head villain can’t stand but keeps around because he has a use.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:21:23pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

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Heh kind of reminds me of a talk my brother and I had about how a lot of macho types andddd their disdain for vegan/vegetarian objects effects their uh erectability.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:21:47pm

re: #73 Targetpractice

See, I don’t see Mooch as the mastermind, more the weaselly toady who even the head villain can’t stand but keeps around because he has a use.

Oh personality wise, that’s him to a tee. He’s the guy who kisses the bully’s ass.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:22:25pm

Esquire cast Martin Sheen in a hypothetical Trump movie. I can see it but there’s one problem. Height but Martin can do that shit face look Trump gives.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:23:07pm

re: #75 HappyWarrior

Oh personality wise, that’s him to a tee. He’s the guy who kisses the bully’s ass.

Grover Dill.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:23:44pm

re: #77 Blind Frog Belly White

Grover Dill.

Yep!

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No Depression  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:24:20pm

re: #76 HappyWarrior

Esquire cast Martin Sheen in a hypothetical Trump movie. I can see it but there’s one problem. Height but Martin can do that shit face look Trump gives.

Steve Buscemi in a lumpy fatsuit as Steve Bannon.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:24:55pm

re: #79 No Depression

Steve Buscemi in a lumpy fatsuit as Steve Bannon.

Oh man, I never thought of it but I can see it. Buscemi plays sleazy really well.

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teleskiguy  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:25:19pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:26:04pm

re: #70 Blind Frog Belly White

Sprechen sie talk?

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Trump wishes he were as clever as Hans Gruber.

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teleskiguy  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:26:06pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hey, at least they aren’t wishing death on fascists…

Yeah, that would be so much better.

*punches wall*

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:26:28pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

Oh man, I never thought of it but I can see it. Buscemi plays sleazy really well.

Or William H. Macy.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:26:52pm

re: #17 HappyWarrior

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with him? He has such delusions of grandeur about himself but somehow Obama was arrogant because of “I” in speeches. Meanwhile Trump thinks he actually belongs on Mount Rushmore.

It’s a fascist progression we are watching.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:26:53pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:27:00pm

re: #81 teleskiguy

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He wants violence against immigrants and he, Cotton, and Perdue (GA Senator) are planning a push to limit LEGAL immigration.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:27:31pm

re: #86 FormerDirtDart

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ACA is why you have your job today, Senator Shitface.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:27:42pm

re: #82 Targetpractice

Trump wishes he were as clever as Hans Gruber.

Trump wishes he were as clever as Lenny, from ‘Of Mice And Men’.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:28:07pm

re: #84 Blind Frog Belly White

Or William H. Macy.

Frank Gallagher with weight and without the alcoholic wisdom.

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EPR-radar  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:28:09pm

re: #79 No Depression

Steve Buscemi in a lumpy fatsuit as Steve Bannon.

I still think the best photo caption ever was for a photo of Steve Bannon looking especially lumpy, and went something like “Is that his liver trying to escape from his body?!”

On a related note, best description of Bannon ever (from Wonkette?) included this gem (paraphrased from memory): “Steve Bannon looks like he woke up the morning after on the floor of the restroom of a dive bar and combed his hair with a pork chop.”

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Decatur Deb  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:28:15pm

re: #86 FormerDirtDart

Ted Cruz calls ACA the “biggest job killer” in this country

Hey!! We’d all have two jobs if it weren’t for Obamacare.

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Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:28:41pm

re: #87 HappyWarrior

He wants violence against immigrants and he, Cotton, and Perdue (GA Senator) are planning a push to limit LEGAL immigration.

Because he apparently knows better than all the economists who’ve said there’s no fucking way the economy can manage 3% growth without a massive infusion of workers.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:29:44pm

How about Eric Trump as Little Carmine?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:30:10pm

re: #93 Targetpractice

Because he apparently knows better than all the economists who’ve said there’s no fucking way the economy can manage 3% growth without a massive infusion of workers.

Seriously though , watch for it. I found out about Cotton and Perdue’s plan since my boss was asking me about a proposal by those two to not allow close relatives to file Green Cards on behalf of their family members. Fortunately, it didn’t get anywhere but it had Trump’s support.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:31:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:31:06pm

Who for Ivanka? You know Margot Robbie played her quite well in SNL. Granted it was comedy but this would be a sort of dark comedy wouldn’t it? Will Arnett may be a little old for Don Jr but it would be GOB Bluth 2.0 and that would be worth it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:31:10pm

re: #91 EPR-radar

I still think the best photo caption ever was for a photo of Steve Bannon looking especially lumpy, and went something like “Is that his liver trying to escape from his body?!”

On a related note, best description of Bannon ever (from Wonkette?) included this gem (paraphrased from memory): “Steve Bannon looks like he woke up the morning after on the floor of the restroom of a dive bar and combed his hair with a pork chop.”

Reminds me of someone’s comment about Trey Gowdy: “He looks like he sweats Baby Oil.”

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:31:15pm

re: #87 HappyWarrior

He wants violence against immigrants and he, Cotton, and Perdue (GA Senator) are planning a push to limit LEGAL immigration.

I can see Trumpish vigilante gangs going around trying to do unto them before they allegedly do unto us. Trump is giving them the motive. Now he only has to get the DoJ and the courts out of the way, and he is apparently on his way to doing that.

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EPR-radar  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:31:34pm

re: #93 Targetpractice

Because he apparently knows better than all the economists who’ve said there’s no fucking way the economy can manage 3% growth without a massive infusion of workers.

How would adding workers increase economic growth? As far as I can tell, we’re already in a long-term labor oversupply dues to outsourcing, automation etc.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:31:58pm

re: #99 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I can see Trumpish vigilante gangs going around trying to do unto them before they allegedly do unto us. Trump is giving them the motive. Now he only has to get the DoJ and the courts out of the way, and he is apparently on his way to doing that.

I know a good amount of immigrants given my SiL’s family and my clients at work. These are worrying itmes.

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Chrysicat  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:33:12pm

Since I managed to stay in a thread after it ‘really closed’ again…repost from downstairs

re: #410 Chrysicat

Worst part of all is, we now have the technology that could uncover everyone’s genetic heritage. Watch as he orders an ancestry test for every american, so he can uncover the hidden targeted minorities as well.

And watch me pray that the one ancestral line out of 8 I have, that was in this country before 1875, did a whole lot of slave-diddling so I don’t have to feel ashamed of my own heritage.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:34:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:34:51pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

Yeah, that would be so much better.

*punches wall*

inconvenient that is, right?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:35:31pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

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And this is what passes for a maverick in the media.

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No Depression  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:35:39pm

It isn’t just immigrants that are in danger; it’s anyone who even looks vaguely Hispanic. Because you know the mouthbreathers who’ll be drawn to acts of violence can’t tell who’s here legally or not, nor do they care.

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teleskiguy  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:36:28pm

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

inconvenient that is, right?

What the fuck are you talking about?

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prairiefire  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:37:43pm

re: #33 ipsos

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:37:50pm

re: #98 Blind Frog Belly White

Reminds me of someone’s comment about Trey Gowdy: “He looks like he sweats Baby Oil.”

LOL. I saw him today on Fox opining on the Democrats’ persecution of Kush and noticed that in addition to the new facial hair and side-parted coif, he was still sweating baby oil.

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No Depression  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:38:12pm

re: #105 HappyWarrior

And this is what passes for a maverick in the media.

He isn’t just concerned like most Republicans. He’s extremely concerned. Maverick!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:39:43pm

Every Alleghenian knows about William McKinley, who according to college legend was expelled for leading a cow up the stairs to the bell tower of Bentley Hall. The legend has it that cows can be led UP stairs, but can’t be led DOWN stairs, so…..

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teleskiguy  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:40:28pm

Tonight, here and on Twitter, I’ve seen people want Republicans to die in fiery car crashes, get crushed by boulders, and get pushed off tall mountains. Yeah, when they go low we go high. Fuck all.

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Brian J.  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:42:13pm

Wishful thinking from Olbermann, sorry to say. It’s all kayfabe. They’re still working together to accomplish their goals, and there is absolutely no sign that will change.

On the lighter side, at least our least favorite Northeastern state got some bad news. Get some free Roundup with your Ben and Jerry’s:

boston.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:42:52pm

re: #111 Blind Frog Belly White

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Every Alleghenian knows about William McKinley, who according to college legend was expelled for leading a cow up the stairs to the bell tower of Bentley Hall. The legend has it that cows can be led UP stairs, but can’t be led DOWN stairs, so…..

I guess that’s what passed for rebellious in the 1860’s. Seriously. Does he always have to do this condescending buillshit? “Hey I learned who someone was just a minute ago now I’m going ot presume you’re as ignorant as I was.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:45:04pm

re: #114 HappyWarrior

I guess that’s what passed for rebellious in the 1860’s. Seriously. Does he always have to do this condescending buillshit? “Hey I learned who someone was just a minute ago now I’m going ot presume you’re as ignorant as I was.”

Look when you always think you’re the smartest guy in the room, but you’re actually one of the, if not THE stupidest, you just assume everyone knows less than you.

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Brian J.  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:45:13pm

re: #48 gocart mozart

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Moral: Left-populism is the quickest and surest road to electoral failure. Which is a more effective recruiting tool, our enemies’ blood running like a river or slightly cheaper health care?

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Kragar  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:45:48pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:46:02pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:46:39pm

re: #116 Brian J.

Moral: Left-populism is the quickest and surest road to electoral failure. Which is a more effective recruiting tool, our enemies’ blood running like a river or slightly cheaper health care?

Hey, have you met teleskiguy? You two should get along like a house on fire.
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Weaselone  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:46:50pm

re: #112 teleskiguy

Tonight, here and on Twitter, I’ve seen people want Republicans to die in fiery car crashes, get crushed by boulders, and get pushed off tall mountains. Yeah, when they go low we go high. Fuck all.

It’s wrong, but it’s also just venting. They’re not actually voting for legislation that will cause Republicans to die in fiery car crashes or get pushed off of tall mountains, although congress probably has some bills lined up that involve automobile and rope safety that will have that impact.

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Brian J.  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:47:32pm

re: #117 Kragar

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I hate to say I told you so… but I did. Sanders was no doubt overjoyed to see his nemesis Obama’s legacy take a big step toward the abyss.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:47:36pm

re: #117 Kragar

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If Clinton or any establishment favorite said that, they’d be eaten alive. Anyhow that shouldn’t disqualify him. Being 79 in 2020 should and having zippo leadership skills should.

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teleskiguy  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:47:53pm

re: #120 Weaselone

It’s wrong, but it’s also just venting.

Vent at Reddit or 4Chan. Take your violent fantasies elsewhere.

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gocart mozart  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:47:56pm

You know who else used to say shit like this?

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ObserverArt  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:48:10pm

re: #112 teleskiguy

Tonight, here and on Twitter, I’ve seen people want Republicans to die in fiery car crashes, get crushed by boulders, and get pushed off tall mountains. Yeah, when they go low we go high. Fuck all.

Well in the light of the frustration that a lot of people feel about really looking at dying in the true sense of the word…a little over-the-top dramatic wishes might be making some feel better. Is it wrong? Depends on the real motive of what they are saying.

Are they really going to kill anyone or are they just spouting shit?

It’s like if I say ‘somebody shoot me’ out of frustration…I don’t really want to get shot.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:48:58pm

re: #118 FormerDirtDart

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Thanks Admiral Mullen.

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teleskiguy  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:49:32pm

re: #125 ObserverArt

Is it wrong?

Yes, it’s wrong. That’s sinking to your hateful RWNJ level, and I thought we’re supposed to be better than that.

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EPR-radar  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:49:46pm

re: #121 Brian J.

I hate to say I told you so… but I did. Sanders was no doubt overjoyed to see his nemesis Obama’s legacy take a big step toward the abyss.

I’m no fan of Sanders, but this is an accusation of thought crime. Sanders has not voted for any of the Republican health care shit in the Senate as far as I know.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:50:23pm

re: #33 ipsos

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:50:57pm

re: #115 Blind Frog Belly White

Look when you always think you’re the smartest guy in the room, but you’re actually one of the, if not THE stupidest, you just assume everyone knows less than you.

Very true.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:51:51pm

re: #125 ObserverArt

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Brian J.  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:52:22pm

re: #128 EPR-radar

I’m no fan of Sanders, but this is an accusation of thought crime. Sanders has not voted for any of the Republican health care shit in the Senate as far as I know.

When you campaign against Obamacare for years in support of your single-payer fantasy, you’ve made it clear where you stand. And when you literally dance with the ACA’s executioner, your mental state is not hard to fathom.

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Weaselone  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:52:23pm

re: #123 teleskiguy

Vent at Reddit or 4Chan. Take your violent fantasies elsewhere.

I haven’t expressed any violent fantasies, but perhaps you were referring to the President’s recent blood libeling of undocumented immigrants.

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Chrysicat  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:52:55pm

re: #106 No Depression

It isn’t just immigrants that are in danger; it’s anyone who even looks vaguely Hispanic. Because you know the mouthbreathers who’ll be drawn to acts of violence can’t tell who’s here legally or not, nor do they care.

Not even just that.

It’ll be anyone with a vaguely Middle Eastern last name too.

Did I mention my #MAGA father is the descendant of one of only seven brothers who came to this country 120 years ago with a last name ending in ‘-baba’?

Anyone who gets to see his last name, especially without seeing his whiter-than-Trump face, will be ready to heap abuse on him, and he doesn’t get that yet.

I do (not least because I already got “you effing Muslim bitch’ over the phone at my final. inbound customer-service job), but changing my last name legally would be way too much of a pain since, if I’m alive past May, I’m hoping to run anyway.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:54:02pm

re: #134 Chrysicat

Not even just that.

It’ll be anyone with a vaguely Middle Eastern last name too.

Did I mention my #MAGA father is the descendant of one of only seven brothers who came to this country 120 years ago with a last name ending in ‘-baba’?

Anyone who gets to see his last name, especially without seeing his whiter-than-Trump face, will be ready to heap abuse on him, and he doesn’t get that yet.

I do (not least because I already got “you effing Muslim bitch’ over the phone at my final. inbound customer-service job), but changing my last name legally would be way too much of a pain since, if I’m alive past May, I’m hoping to run anyway.

If you don’t mind me asking, what’s the origin of the name?

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teleskiguy  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:54:06pm

re: #133 Weaselone

I haven’t expressed any violent fantasies

I wasn’t addressing you.

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Maxwell Not So Smart  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:54:13pm

I read this on FB:

What the fuck is wrong with Americans who aren’t on board with free healthcare. I’m Canadian and i don’t care that I pay extra taxes so a little boy in Alberta can have open heart surgery, or and elderly man in Nova Scotia can get the heart medication he desperately needs. It’s called taking care of your people. I’m glad I pay so that people can have a good quality of life. It’s called being a decent fucking human being.

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Renaissance_Man  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:54:59pm

re: #127 teleskiguy

Yes, it’s wrong. That’s sinking to your hateful RWNJ level, and I thought we’re supposed to be better than that.

I was once. I’m kind of not any more. That’s what I’ve become in the Trump era - a much worse person. Like most of the country, I guess.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:55:06pm

re: #33 ipsos

If you’re still following the way-OT misadventures of my little guy and Camp Invention, here’s today’s sad sequel (and if you’re not, please enjoy the rest of this thread with my compliments…)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:55:07pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:55:08pm

re: #124 gocart mozart

You know who else used to say shit like this?

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“Tell me, President Trump, did the fair maiden have long flaxen tresses?”

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plansbandc  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:55:33pm

re: #137 Maxwell Not So Smart

More than half of this country could not give a fuck less about their fellow Americans. They are not decent fucking human beings.

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Kragar  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:57:20pm
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Chrysicat  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:58:02pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

Probably Romanian, and it received an Ellis-Island-isation that was unique in the change of lead consonants (if any of their cousins bearing the same name came earlier or later, they didn’t receive the exact same switch.

They came from A-H when they immigrated, though.

(This is also the one and only reason I will never share my RL last name with anyone online who didn’t previously know me IRL).

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 6:59:34pm

re: #143 Kragar

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Yeah the most progressive platform ever offered by the DNC wasn’t enough because the nominee wasn’t a mid 70 year old Senator with little legislation passed to his name. So tired of this shit. You were offered an alternative to Trump. Stop acting like it’s the Dem’s fault or hell maybe actually blame Bernie because he obviously didn’t run enough a good of a campaign to beat Clinton which Obama actually did when she was far more popular than she is now.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:00:26pm

re: #144 Chrysicat

Probably Romanian, and it received an Ellis-Island-isation that was unique in the change of lead consonants (if any of their cousins bearing the same name came earlier or later, they didn’t receive the exact same switch.

They came from A-H when they immigrated, though.

(This is also the one and only reason I will never share my RL last name with anyone online who didn’t previously know me IRL).

Understand completely. I have a rare last name too. My mom’s family came from Austria-Hungary as well. Slovaks and Slovenes.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:00:27pm

re: #144 Chrysicat

Probably Romanian, and it received an Ellis-Island-isation that was unique in the change of lead consonants (if any of their cousins bearing the same name came earlier or later, they didn’t receive the exact same switch.

They came from A-H when they immigrated, though.

We were lucky—just lost the O’ in front of the name.

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ObserverArt  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:00:41pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:01:08pm

re: #147 Decatur Deb

We were lucky—just lost the O’ in front of the name.

COUSIN!
(My third great grandmother was an O’Malley.)

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MsJ  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:01:57pm

re: #123 teleskiguy

Vent at Reddit or 4Chan. Take your violent fantasies elsewhere.

My violent fantasies surround people I care about dying because of Republican lies, Republicans literally taking care away from people I love and care about.

Kind of hard to take that elsewhere when it lives in my thoughts and nightmares.

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Major Tom  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:02:41pm

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

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teleskiguy  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:03:09pm

re: #150 MsJ

My violent fantasies surround people I care about dying because of Republican lies, Republicans literally taking care away from people I love and care about.

Kind of hard to take that elsewhere when it lives in my thoughts and nightmares.

You want Republicans to die violently, got it.

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MsJ  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:04:23pm

re: #138 Renaissance_Man

I was once. I’m kind of not any more. That’s what I’ve become in the Trump era - a much worse person. Like most of the country, I guess.

You and me both.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:04:52pm

re: #148 ObserverArt

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:05:47pm

re: #151 Major Tom

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LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!

THAT IS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

(maybe needs a slight orange tint…)

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ObserverArt  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:06:02pm

re: #145 HappyWarrior

Yeah the most progressive platform ever offered by the DNC wasn’t enough because the nominee wasn’t a mid 70 year old Senator with little legislation passed to his name. So tired of this shit. You were offered an alternative to Trump. Stop acting like it’s the Dem’s fault or hell maybe actually blame Bernie because he obviously didn’t run enough a good of a campaign to beat Clinton which Obama actually did when she was far more popular than she is now.

Happy…you know better.

Hillary and the Democrats conspired to keep Bernie out. He would have won the Democratic Party nomination had he had a fair chance.

So it shall ever be. Those that believe it will never change.

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MsJ  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:06:13pm

re: #152 teleskiguy

You want Republicans to die violently, got it.

Good.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:06:32pm

John McCain just voted yes on the BCRA with Cruz amendment.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:07:03pm

re: #158 Charles Johnson

John McCain just voted yes on the BCRA with Cruz amendment.

Maverick my ass

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teleskiguy  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:07:07pm

re: #157 MsJ

Good.

Why fantasize when you can take part in actual political violence? Jump the chasm, take up arms, kill Republicans!!!

*spit*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:07:28pm

re: #158 Charles Johnson

John McCain just voted yes on the BCRA with Cruz amendment.

but of course he did.

*SPIT*

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MsJ  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:07:53pm

re: #160 teleskiguy

Why fantasize when you can take part in actual political violence? Jump the chasm, take up arms, kill Republicans!!!

*spit*

Yeah. Spit.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:08:35pm

Like a lot of Lizards, I am struggling with the current news cycle.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:10:34pm

re: #39 EPR-radar

I finally turned once and for all against the GOP in the first term of W Bush, so I can’t imagine what it would be like to make that conversion right as the tr*mp shit show starts up and “succeeds” unreasonably well.

It’s probably like a nightmare of running out of Hell but the hellish scenery catches up with you faster than you can run.

That’s exactly what it feels like. Exactly.

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Kragar  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:11:59pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:12:39pm

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Skip Intro  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:12:59pm

re: #165 Kragar

CEOs aren’t used to having to work. That’s what other people do, at 1/171 the pay.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:13:33pm

re: #165 Kragar

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plansbandc  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:13:37pm

Shaming and scolding people who are upset and venting over what’s happening in our country just isn’t productive. I wish in this, my most safe space, that wouldn’t happen.

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Chrysicat  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:14:00pm
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retired cynic  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:14:27pm

I’m about with klys …

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:14:42pm

re: #167 Skip Intro

CEOs aren’t used to having to work. That’s what other people do, at 1/171 the pay.

Really putting that “run government like a business” theory to the test.

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MsJ  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:15:16pm

re: #172 Barefoot Grin

Really putting that “run government like a business” theory to the test.

It’s failing spectacularly thus far.

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retired cynic  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:15:33pm

One good thing: the Democrats just won a state senate seat in New Hampshire in a double digit victory. From the ground up!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:15:51pm

This also gives Jared more time to interfere with State Dept business. I don’t think we have an Undersecretary of State yet and if we did, it’s not like Jared is going to respect that.

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teleskiguy  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:16:41pm

How about some music?

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:16:44pm

re: #173 MsJ

It’s failing spectacularly thus far.

As Reaganomics (trickle down) and all the other shibboleths have.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:16:46pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

Been getting that feeling a lot these last many weeks…

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ObserverArt  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:17:38pm

Sadly. Trump is hurting this community. He is a complete horror to all of us.

But that is also what he/they want. Frustrating people from even talking about this is goal number one.

I always wondered how it would come, how it would work. It’s subtle. It’s just so many little cracks and then something big happens and the opposition breaks apart.

I’m going to chill out. What a fucking frustrating day. Later.

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Chrysicat  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:17:41pm

re: #160 teleskiguy

Why fantasize when you can take part in actual political violence? Jump the chasm, take up arms, kill Republicans!!!

*spit*

Don’t think for a minute that they won’t be hunting you if your car breaks down in the Springs or something.

But I. at least, won’t do that until they actually start attacking us. Wishing McCain gets his first taste of Hell before he’s sent to the actual one, though?

For signing this death sentence, that’s perfectly all right.

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Interesting Times  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:18:30pm

re: #138 Renaissance_Man

I was once. I’m kind of not any more. That’s what I’ve become in the Trump era - a much worse person. Like most of the country, I guess.

The thing is, trump’s victory and continuing cult-like worship from his base belies “when they go low, we go high.” Going low won, because it’s what 62 million Americans wanted and tens of millions of others couldn’t be bothered to vote against. It’s as if “going high” was viewed as weakness, while trump’s vicious, sleazy bullying was durr-hurr alpha strength. I always knew people like that existed; I just had no idea there were so goddamned many of them :/

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Decatur Deb  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:20:11pm

re: #163 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Like a lot of Lizards, I am struggling with the current news cycle.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:20:42pm

re: #181 Interesting Times

The thing is, trump’s victory and continuing cult-like worship from his base belies “when they go low, we go high.” Going low won, because it’s what 62 million Americans wanted and tens of millions of others couldn’t be bothered to vote against. It’s as if “going high” was viewed as weakness, while trump’s vicious, sleazy bullying was durr-hurr alpha strength. I always knew people like that existed; I just had no idea there were so goddamned many of them :/

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It’s just amazing that this was even close. Maybe Clinton was a weak candidate but we had an obligation to stop Trump. The people who refused to vote for her remind me of the German leftists who enabled the Nazis by opposing the SDP.

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Renaissance_Man  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:22:22pm

re: #163 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Like a lot of Lizards, I am struggling with the current news cycle.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:22:40pm
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jaunte  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:22:58pm

re: #124 gocart mozart

Tonight, the president told a graphic tale about sadistic illegal immigrants torturing beautiful teen girls:

Maybe what the Russians have is not a pee tape.

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teleskiguy  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:23:54pm

re: #166 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:24:02pm

OT update from the Backwoods:

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:24:23pm

re: #182 Decatur Deb

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Interesting Times  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:24:42pm

re: #182 Decatur Deb

Always be involved in some small thing that will stop the bastards in their tracks, though it take three generations.

Oh, I absolutely still believe this, despite what I said (and quoted) above. Even if you can’t stop slimy evil from winning, you owe it to yourself to make their lives as miserable in the process as you can.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:27:00pm

A sliver of good news tonight.

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Interesting Times  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:27:37pm

re: #190 Interesting Times

Case in point:

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ipsos  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:28:06pm

re: #139 Decatur Deb

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makeitstop  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:29:14pm

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

OT update from the Backwoods:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:29:41pm
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JordanRules  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:30:02pm

re: #183 HappyWarrior

I know you know this very well Happy and your earlier comment about Bernie and the Dem platform was spot on but it’s easy to let the following facts slip into ‘givens’…

She won the popular vote
Russia interfered with our election with possible active collaboration of Americans and an American political party
First major election with gutted VRA
Voter suppression via years of state voter ID and gerrymandering bears fruit

These are not just givens. I always remind folks no matter what because they are horrifying truths that may signal what’s to come and they should embolden us to fight harder. We won yo! But it was “stolen”. We’re seeing something entirely undemocratic unfold to ensure we can’t win again.

These are the facts. We’re dealing with something illegitimate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:30:32pm

re: #194 makeitstop

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:33:36pm

re: #196 JordanRules

I know you know this very well Happy and your earlier comment about Bernie and the Dem platform was spot on but it’s easy to let the following facts slip into ‘givens’…

She won the popular vote
Russia interfered with our election with possible active collaboration of Americans and an American political party
First major election with gutted VRA
Voter suppression via years of state voter ID and gerrymandering bears fruit

These are not just givens. I always remind folks no matter what because they are horrifying truths that may signal what’s to come and they should embolden us to fight harder. We won yo! But it was “stolen”. We’re seeing something entirely undemocratic unfold to ensure we can’t win again.

These are the facts. We’re dealing with something illegitimate.

For sure. You’re 100% right. This just stinks. I miss Obama so much. I miss having a president to be proud of. Not a stupid clown reality tv star.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:33:39pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:34:55pm

re: #199 Barefoot Grin

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Interesting Times  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:35:10pm

This is an enlightening statistic that explains a lot :D

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Decatur Deb  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:36:33pm

So far…

First GOP health care bill fails, with many more votes to come

axios.com

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CleverToad  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:37:29pm

re: #163 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Understood. Hitting that point myself tonight.
Take care, by whatever means work for you — gin, garlic, running shoes, fiction…

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JordanRules  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:38:37pm

re: #198 HappyWarrior

Indeed. I’m cycling pretty rapidly thru a lot of intense emotional states. The whole country is under a mental health assault in addition to everything else.

I understand what everyone is expressing, especially today and tonight.

Miss you President Obama!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:39:27pm

Currently 66F and forecast low tonight is 61F.

I have died and gone to heaven….

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Decatur Deb  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:39:28pm

A dictator with a maturing ICBM program has threatened to nuke us, and that’s not today’s bad news.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:41:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:42:23pm
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JordanRules  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:42:23pm

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s a real profile in courage!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:43:13pm

re: #209 JordanRules

There’s a real profile in courage!

I had no idea she was facing cancer, much less stage 4.

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Maxwell Not So Smart  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:43:51pm

Another 1 from FB & Canada:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:45:36pm

well, duhhhhhh John…the bill as it is today is just a blank fucking page.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:45:53pm

re: #163 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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retired cynic  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:47:58pm

re: #198 HappyWarrior

For sure. You’re 100% right. This just stinks. I miss Obama so much. I miss having a president to be proud of. Not a stupid clown reality tv star.

Found this on somebody’s twitter feed:

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Varek Raith  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:49:46pm

Hello!

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Interesting Times  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:49:51pm

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

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well, duhhhhhh John…the bill as it is today is just a blank fucking page.

Oh really? Then how the fuck does he explain the absence of his name from this list?

The version of the bill, the Better Care Reconciliation Act, that the Senate voted down tonight included an agreement by Sens. Ted Cruz and Rob Portman that added $100 billion to help low-income people transitioning off of Medicaid, as well as Cruz’s proposal to let insurers sell health plans that don’t meet ACA requirements as long as they also sell plans that do.

Republicans who voted against the bill: Mike Lee, Susan Collins, Bob Corker, Lindsey Graham, Rand Paul, Dean Heller, Jerry Moran, Lisa Murkowski, Tom Cotton.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:50:14pm

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

@SenJohnMcCain
I voted for the motion to proceed to open debate on healthcare, but I will not vote for the bill as it is today

well, duhhhhhh John…the bill as it is today is just a blank fucking page.

WASHINGTON ― Hours after opening debate on a Republican health care bill, the Senate roundly rejected the first of a series of GOP proposals late Tuesday night: the Obamacare repeal and replacement plan that Republicans had been working on for months.

The Better Care Reconciliation Act went down, 43-57, with nine Republicans voting no: Susan Collins (Maine), Tom Cotton (Ark.), Bob Corker (Tenn.), Lindsey Graham (S.C.), Dean Heller (Nev.), Mike Lee (Utah), Jerry Moran (Kan.), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) and Rand Paul (Ky.)

You know whose name I don’t see there?

John McCain
ratfucker

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:50:52pm

re: #198 HappyWarrior

For sure. You’re 100% right. This just stinks. I miss Obama so much. I miss having a president to be proud of. Not a stupid clown reality tv star.

Sheesh I miss having a President I simply don’t like, or find to be wrong but honestly so. Not malevolent, craven and egotistical. Okay I admit it I miss Gerald Ford. //////

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Charles Johnson  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:52:19pm
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No Depression  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:52:31pm

One of the things giving me solace through all this bullshit is the fact that all this loud resistance gets under the skin of Trump and his supporters. It must burn them to know that their God-Emperor is a laughingstock.

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teleskiguy  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:52:54pm

re: #215 Varek Raith

Hello!

Giphy

Not you, just in a mood.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:56:49pm

re: #219 Charles Johnson

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That was the exact situation in my apple and pear trees in the backyard earlier today.

I kept looking for Alfred Hitchcock to peek around the corner of one of the outbuildings and yell “GOT’CHA!!!”…

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ipsos  Jul 25, 2017 • 7:57:25pm

re: #220 No Depression

One of the things giving me solace through all this bullshit is the fact that all this loud resistance gets under the skin of Trump and his supporters. It must burn them to know that their God-Emperor is a laughingstock.

No, because their epistemic filter is set so narrowly now that anything that might cast doubt on the God-Emperor is “fake news” and therefore can be safely ignored.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:01:08pm

I was wrong for falling for the unfounded premise of a fait accompli. Totally wrong.

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gocart mozart  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:01:40pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:03:50pm

By all means, let’s not be too mean to Trump supporters. I hope they die peacefully.

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teleskiguy  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:05:08pm

re: #226 gocart mozart

By all means, let’s not be too mean to Trump supporters. I hope they die peacefully.

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Nice subtweet, bro. You want to sink to these animals’ levels?!?

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Myron Falwell  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:05:55pm

re: #217 FormerDirtDart

From MEPFuller’s tweet:

Where we stand: BCRA went down big tonight, but McConnell looks like he may have the votes for his “skinny repeal.”

Is the “skinny repeal” the one that the Senate Parliamentarian is now saying can only be passed with 60 votes? Or is that another one?

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BeachDem  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:08:39pm

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

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well, duhhhhhh John…the bill as it is today is just a blank fucking page.

And later the same day (damn is it still the same day? Seems like a month has passed since this morning)

The Senate rejected a key proposal repealing and replacing ObamaCare on Tuesday night, as senators start a days-long debate on healthcare.

Senators voted 43-57 on a procedural hurdle for the measure that included the GOP repeal and a replace bill, the Better Care Reconciliation Act, as well as proposals from GOP Sens. Ted Cruz (Texas) and Rob Portman (Ohio).

GOP Sens. Susan Collins (Maine), Bob Corker (Tenn.), Tom Cotton (Ark.), Lindsey Graham (S.C.), Dean Heller (Nev.), Mike Lee (Utah), Jerry Moran (Kan.), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) and Rand Paul (Ky.) voted against the repeal-replace proposal on the procedural hurdle. No Democrats voted for it.

thehill.com

And apparently, McCain voted for it (I thought he had left, but if the vote was 43-57, he must have been there.) So much for his “principled stance” (on anything.)

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Decatur Deb  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:10:03pm

re: #224 Myron Falwell

I was wrong for falling for the unfounded premise of a fait accompli. Totally wrong.

If they get their shit together you’ll be totally right by 2019.

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Interesting Times  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:10:37pm

re: #228 Myron Falwell

From MEPFuller’s tweet:

Is the “skinny repeal” the one that the Senate Parliamentarian is now saying can only be passed with 60 votes?

Don’t think so:

What’s next: A vote on a bill that repeals the Affordable Care Act’s subsidies, taxes and Medicaid expansion but leaves in place its regulations. It’s expected to be tomorrow at noon.

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stpaulbear  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:11:19pm

re: #227 teleskiguy

Nice subtweet, bro. You want to sink to these animals’ levels?!?

Tonight? Yeah. Tomorrow? We can be upstanding grown-ups again.

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teleskiguy  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:12:35pm

re: #232 stpaulbear

Tonight? Yeah.

So it’s okay - just for tonight - that folks wish violent death upon Republicans.

Fuckin’ christ…

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:16:23pm
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BeachDem  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:16:29pm

Elizabeth Warren was really worked up when she was on Rachel tonight. Seemed to be holding back tears. She was visibly shaken. (Yet she persisted!)

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:16:43pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:17:17pm

re: #235 BeachDem

Cute.

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teleskiguy  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:19:48pm

Jesus fucking christ. Kakistocracy.

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MsJ  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:20:04pm

re: #231 Interesting Times

Don’t think so:

I believe the skinny thing they keep talking about was scored the worst with 55m losing insurances.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:20:14pm
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Kragar  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:21:02pm

re: #234 FormerDirtDart

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BeachDem  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:21:33pm

re: #237 teleskiguy

Cute.

I thought so.

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Skip Intro  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:21:39pm

re: #239 MsJ

I believe the skinny thing they keep talking about was scored the worst with 55m losing insurances.

Is it bad enough to get Rand Paul’s vote?

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MsJ  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:22:58pm

re: #235 BeachDem

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stpaulbear  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:23:49pm

re: #236 goddamnedfrank

Phony maverick.
Craps on people who need help.
Sick folks can go die.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:23:54pm

re: #243 Skip Intro

Is it bad enough to get Rand Paul’s vote?

It allows insurance adjusters to go through the wards cutting rings from fingers.

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jaunte  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:24:30pm

re: #246 Decatur Deb

Are there no gold fillings?

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Interesting Times  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:24:52pm

re: #236 goddamnedfrank

The replies make me feel better - especially this thread:

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Decatur Deb  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:25:02pm

re: #247 jaunte

Are there no gold fillings?

Don’t think Dental is covered.

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Skip Intro  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:25:30pm

re: #246 Decatur Deb

Getting close then. Just add pulling out gold crowns and he’s in.

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MsJ  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:25:49pm

re: #243 Skip Intro

Is it bad enough to get Rand Paul’s vote?

Likely. It kills the mandate, taxes on med devices and something else.

It will kill the markets and possibly insurance all told. It’ll really fuck stuff up for a while and will likely be the precursor to single payer.

Not sure how many will have to die before we get there though.

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Kragar  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:26:27pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:28:06pm

re: #251 MsJ

Medicare will be next.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:29:30pm

re: #235 BeachDem

Elizabeth Warren was really worked up when she was on Rachel tonight. Seemed to be holding back tears. She was visibly shaken. (Yet she persisted!)

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MsJ  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:30:23pm

re: #245 stpaulbear

Phony maverick.
Craps on people who need help.
Sick folks can go die.

Rich motherfucker
Gets his healthcare free, but then
votes no scraps for you.

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teleskiguy  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:30:53pm

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

A certain person has apparently forgotten about what he said back in May about fascists and how they should kill themselves with guns because of efficiency.
Apparently mileage varies according to whatever is expedient for the moment to be all holier than thou when it comes right down to healthcare and HOW SOME OF OUR FAMILY MEMBERS WILL FUCKING DIE…but we should be all tolerant and not wish death against those who are legislating death against us.

sigh…

OK. I’m leaving now.

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No Depression  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:32:24pm

re: #240 FormerDirtDart

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This is their manifesto:

I’m not much of a revolutionary, but this is fucking awesome. Now these are some Social Justice Warriors that would make the deplorables shit their pants.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:32:24pm
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stpaulbear  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:32:33pm

re: #255 MsJ

I like yours better.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:33:13pm

re: #242 BeachDem

I thought so.

You have been lectured upon.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:35:08pm

re: #239 MsJ

I believe the skinny thing they keep talking about was scored the worst with 55m losing insurances.

So… apparently they claim to have the votes for this turd, yet the one that failed tonight was also their best chance at passing a repeal.

My head hurts. Goddam it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:35:30pm

re: #256 teleskiguy

OK. I’m leaving now.

Oh, and thank you for violating the spirit of the private tag.

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MsJ  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:36:10pm

re: #259 stpaulbear

I like yours better.

They’re both good. 😘

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The Major  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:36:47pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:37:13pm

re: #257 No Depression

This is their manifesto:

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I’m not much of a revolutionary, but this is fucking awesome. Now these are some Social Justice Warriors that would make the deplorables shit their pants.

Sounds bogus, a fragment of the Anarchist fragment. If they off some ISIS, more power to them.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:38:11pm

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

You have been lectured upon.

It happens. In my case deserved.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:38:34pm

re: #248 Interesting Times

The replies make me feel better - especially this thread:

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Do you all recall the death hate against Ted Kennedy?

Guess not

Because you are doing it.

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MsJ  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:40:13pm

re: #261 Myron Falwell

So… apparently they claim to have the votes for this turd, yet the one that failed tonight was also their best chance at passing a repeal.

My head hurts. Goddam it.

I forgot that “some other thing” was employer mandated coverage. Skinny gets rid of that.

politico.com

Every single article I read in it was it’s a hail Mary to be able to say they won something and it will seriously fuck up the marketplace.

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MsJ  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:42:23pm

re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:42:32pm

Seems to have been a Rep. held seat for a while, until Dems took it 2016. 2016 winner died in March.
Cavanaugh defeated the former incumbent seat holder.

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Kragar  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:43:36pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:44:08pm

re: #270 FormerDirtDart

Seems to have been a Rep. held seat for a while, until Dems took it 2016. 2016 winner died in March.
Cavanaugh defeated the former incumbent seat holder.

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[Shake and Bake]
“And I helped!”
[/Shake and Bake!]

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allegro  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:45:29pm

re: #267 Stanley Sea

Do you all recall the death hate against Ted Kennedy?

Guess not

Because you are doing it.

Wow. Are we reading two different things? What I saw was McCain being called out for his hypocrisy, dishonesty and venality, all indisputable after his votes today. Absolutely fair and called for IMO.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:45:29pm

Work stress-Well either I bricked it or today was the day to die for a (redacted brand) firewall device at work. I can’t even connect to the At&T modem from my pc unless I go around the firewall. The very day after we (At&t and I) put in a separate Uverse connection for the ip phones. Just changed the phone related ethernet cables as required. Phones get one connection, everything else another. Hmm. Anyway just love being the IT guy / messenger of bad news.

Oh and annual reviews are August 1st. Crap I’m more alchemist than network guy, IT being a very “add on as needed” skill set for me. But when the boss needs IT I’m it. Not an IT expert, an IT victim. I learned everything I know about technology when something quit or went all wrong. That’s the diff right?

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Cheechako  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:46:56pm

Time for some positive thoughts. Just suppose all the proposed “amendments” to this empty page bill that was passed today fail to pass on the individual votes. What better way to dump shit on McConnell. The base would toss his ass out in a heartbeat.

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Interesting Times  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:47:06pm

re: #267 Stanley Sea

Do you all recall the death hate against Ted Kennedy?

Guess not

Because you are doing it.

Ted Kennedy used his dying days to give people healthcare.

McCain, so far, is using his to take it away.

See the difference?

Otherwise, one might as well claim that we’re not allowed to say anything negative about trump because of all the right-wing hate directed at Obama.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:47:18pm

re: #272 Barefoot Grin

[Shake and Bake]
“And I helped!”
[/Shake and Bake!]

Though the truth is that in this rare case, the (R) who had held the seat before is pretty moderate. There was only a slight difference in the candidates’ stances on what matters to me. But NH and the country as a whole needs more (D) in local offices to rebuild.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:47:30pm

re: #273 allegro

Wow. Are we reading two different things? What I saw was McCain being called out for his hypocrisy, dishonesty and venality, all indisputable after his votes today. Absolutely fair and called for IMO.

Plus they are all replies to a rather sanctimonious and heavy-handed tweet from someone who has — AFAIK — no connection whatsoever to McCain.

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No Depression  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:48:58pm

re: #265 Decatur Deb

Sounds bogus, a fragment of the Anarchist fragment. If they off some ISIS, more power to them.

I think they’re legit, but you’re right about them being a fragment of a fragment. TQILA’s parent organization is IRPGF, which is itself a part of the International Freedom Brigade, a confederation of far-left revolutionary militias fighting in the Syrian Civil War and the war against ISIS.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:49:16pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:52:04pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:52:50pm

re: #279 No Depression

I think they’re legit, but you’re right about them being a fragment of a fragment. TQILA’s parent organization is IRPGF, which is itself a part of the International Freedom Brigade, a confederation of far-left revolutionary militias fighting in the Syrian Civil War and the war against ISIS.

I’ll believe they exist, but wonder if they have a platoon-size force on the ground. (And their English is too good.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:55:23pm
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Interesting Times  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:55:42pm

re: #276 Interesting Times

Refresh comment, I tweaked the wording a touch to reflect that Ted Kennedy wasn’t so much “saving” the ACA as helping bring it about in the first place.

And the objections also remind me of the common trumpchump line durr hurr, we hated Obama like you hate trump so get over it libtard

The comeback is brilliantly simple:

“We hate trump because he is racist. You hated Obama because YOU are racist.”

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Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:56:36pm

re: #281 FormerDirtDart

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Sagan had the right idea, it’s time to get off this planet.

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sauceruney  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:57:18pm

I may do more reading than posting here, but I’m seeing a lot of people I like fighting, a lot of it over perceived slights.

We’re all stressed. This has been a horrible six months plus.

I think I should go watch anime. Goodnight.

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retired cynic  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:59:04pm

re: #286 sauceruney

I may do more reading than posting here, but I’m seeing a lot of people I like fighting, a lot of it over perceived slights.

We’re all stressed. This has been a horrible six months plus.

I think I should go watch anime. Goodnight.

Yep. I think we should wipe tonight off the scoreboard.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 25, 2017 • 8:59:29pm

re: #273 allegro

Wow. Are we reading two different things? What I saw was McCain being called out for his hypocrisy, dishonesty and venality, all indisputable after his votes today. Absolutely fair and called for IMO.

I see it differently.

Today was a procedural vote. McCain returned to vote on the procedural. As a senator tends to do. He took that moment allowed to give a speech that touched on many things, most didn’t catch this one … Separation of powers.

McCain’s days are few, I think.

They diminished Kennedy, they diminish McCain.

I refuse to see this politically.

The beauty of our system IS THE DEBATE.

It is carrying on & it will carry on.

The threat is a weird power hungry fool. I trust the people of the senate & house.

They know.

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jaunte  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:02:39pm
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stpaulbear  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:04:15pm

The cancer-stricken Democratic senator Edward Kennedy made a dramatic return to Congress today, providing the boost needed to pass a bill securing healthcare coverage for senior citizens…

[He] was not expected to return to Washington until September.

But Kennedy made an unexpected appearance on Capitol Hill as Democrats prepared to vote on a plan that shores up Medicare, the country’s government-run programme for senior citizens’ healthcare.

Doctors participating in Medicare were hit with a reimbursement cut of more than 10% last week, jeopardising their ability to treat older patients. The bill passed by the Senate today would reverse that cut, while slicing controversial incentives created by George Bush for private insurance companies that participate in Medicare.

The Medicare bill passed the House of Representatives last month by an overwhelming margin despite Bush’s threatened veto, with Republicans deserting the president in droves.

The Senate, however, fell one vote short of passing the measure, sounding alarms in doctors’ offices across the country and setting off a political row between the medical lobby and reticent Republicans…

Kennedy did not attend the Senate’s first vote on the Medicare plan due to his illness. His sudden emergence today, surrounded by a phalanx of guards, was taken as a sign that Democrats needed his vote in order to pass the bill.
When Kennedy raised his thumb in the air to the clerk of the Senate, signalling his affirmative vote, spectators in the gallery burst into cheers - a rare violation of congressional rules that went unpunished today.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:05:53pm

re: #286 sauceruney

XXOO Sage

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Interesting Times  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:08:24pm

re: #288 Stanley Sea

The threat is a weird power hungry fool. I trust the people of the senate & house.

The GOPers in the house and senate have overwhelmingly enabled the power-hungry fool (e.g. his craptastic cabinet nominees). I trust them as far as I can throw ‘em.

Today was a procedural vote. McCain returned to vote on the procedural.

Did you miss the link originally posted by Decatur Deb? McCain voted YES to the craptastic bill with the Ted Cruz amendment.

Now, if the unimaginable happens and he votes against “skinny repeal” tomorrow, I’ll happily eat crow and my words…but not a moment sooner.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:14:35pm

re: #292 Interesting Times

Thank you. I’m a fool who always hopes for the best.

You provided links.

It’s a hard life to reconcile.

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Belafon  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:18:57pm

re: #137 Maxwell Not So Smart

I read this on FB:

Link?

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JordanRules  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:29:38pm

re: #289 jaunte

Troll Gawd doesn’t disappoint!!


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