The Bob Cesca Show: Skinny Repeal

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Skinny Repeal: The great Buzz Burbank is here today; We recap the Senate vote on whether to debate Trumpcare; Skinny repeal vs full repeal; McCain and Ron Johnson voted yes; The outlook for the Democrats in 2018 is strong; Trump leaning toward firing Jeff Sessions; Ron Wyden invokes impeachment; Support for impeachment grows; The urgency of the Trump crisis; and much more.

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461 comments

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The Major  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:01:21pm
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Kragar  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:02:30pm

re: #1 The Major

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:04:07pm

And with that, I shall bid everyone a good night…

;)

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MsJ  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:06:58pm

re: #1 The Major

How did I miss that? LMAO!

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MsJ  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:24:23pm
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Myron Falwell  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:24:58pm

With Rick Perry, it’s not a kakistocracy. It’s a dumbassocracy.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:30:18pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:31:24pm

“Skinny repeal,” aka “Let’s see how bad we can wreck this fucker and still deny responsibility.”

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Belafon  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:37:35pm

From the previous thread:

re: #225 gocart mozart

What’s great about this is NY can go after Kushner, and there’s nothing Trump can do about it.

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Kragar  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:38:18pm
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Belafon  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:38:24pm
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retired cynic  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:40:18pm

re: #11 Belafon

Only one got all the attention. I noticed that.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:47:03pm

re: #12 retired cynic

Only one got all the attention. I noticed that.

It is sad that McCain gives a powerful statement on the Senate floor and then proves, once again, that he is all talk and no action. He could reclaim his reputation by doing what is right, but that appears beyond his capability today — and perhaps since it’s been beyond him since he left the POW camp.

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darthstar  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:49:46pm

Banjo Om-nom-nomming on my hand after I got home from work today…happy boy.

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darthstar  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:51:06pm

re: #14 darthstar

Banjo Om-nom-nomming on my hand after I got home from work today…happy boy.

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And Craig, blissed out on my wife’s lap last night…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:51:13pm

This is the only mountain Trump should be put on…

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retired cynic  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:54:42pm

re: #16 Joe Bacon 🌹

This is the only mountain Trump should be put on…

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A good Photoshop thingie could be worked out there!

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darthstar  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:56:53pm

re: #16 Joe Bacon 🌹

This is the only mountain Trump should be put on…

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Or he should be under this one.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:56:54pm

re: #14 darthstar

Banjo Om-nom-nomming on my hand after I got home from work today…happy boy.

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Love when they do that!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:57:58pm

re: #18 darthstar

Or he should be under this one.

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Oh that’s not enough…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 25, 2017 • 9:58:34pm

Trump is running the government like it’s a fucking reality TV show, and the GOP happily goes along with this.

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darthstar  Jul 25, 2017 • 10:00:25pm

re: #19 Jebediah, RBG

Love when they do that!

We should strive to elicit the same feeling in our fellow humans.

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Belafon  Jul 25, 2017 • 10:01:09pm

re: #22 darthstar

We should strive to elicit the same feeling in our fellow humans.

Doing that to other humans would be weird.

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darthstar  Jul 25, 2017 • 10:01:15pm

re: #21 The Vicious Babushka

Trump is running the government like it’s a fucking reality TV show, and the GOP happily goes along with this.

The GOP is complicit. Never let them forget.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 25, 2017 • 10:03:05pm

re: #24 darthstar

The GOP is complicit. Never let them forget.

They got their puppet in the Oval Office and all they need him for is to sign the bills to kill Obamacare, Social Security and Medicare so the rich can get big fat juicy tax cuts!

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darthstar  Jul 25, 2017 • 10:03:29pm
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DodgerFan1988  Jul 25, 2017 • 10:10:18pm

Why do I get the feeling there’s going to be a genocide of Hispanic Immigrants and American Muslims coming soon in our lifetimes?

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retired cynic  Jul 25, 2017 • 10:11:56pm

re: #27 DodgerFan1988

Why do I get the feeling there’s going to be a genocide of Hispanic Immigrants American Muslims coming soon in our lifetimes?

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I wish there was a price to pay for those people sitting behind him applauding with idiotic grins on their faces. Jerks.

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Kragar  Jul 25, 2017 • 10:19:09pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 25, 2017 • 10:33:45pm

re: #27 DodgerFan1988

“Trump went on a lengthy diatribe about the supposed need to “liberate” cities in the United States from undocumented immigrants.

And he praised Immigration and Customs Enforcement for their crackdown on “bloodthirsty criminal gangs,” pointedly noting to a repulsively gleeful crowd, “We’re not doing it in a politically correct fashion.”

“We’re doing it rough,” he declared.

He rambled on about “our people” being “tougher and stronger than their people.”

And it was crystal clear who he meant by “their people,” and just what he thinks of most undocumented immigrants.”

I can’t say “fuck this guy” enough times. I really can’t.

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JordanRules  Jul 25, 2017 • 10:35:56pm

Yeah okay JBeau…
He’s not going to change who he is.

One seat at a time!

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Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2017 • 10:47:20pm

re: #31 JordanRules

Yeah okay JBeau…
He’s not going to change who he is.

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Speaking of witch hunts…

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 25, 2017 • 10:56:22pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 25, 2017 • 11:35:53pm

From the “play stupid games, win stupid prizes” department:

A man attacked a sales clerk in a firearms shop he wanted to rob, but the clerk’s colleague shot him and the attacker died in hospital afterwards, the Prague police write on their website about an incident that occurred in the city’s centre on Monday.

The sales clerk was seriously injured, but his life is not endangered, Prague’s Military University Hospital spokeswoman Jitka Zinke told CTK.

The robber, aged 31, attacked the sales clerk with a knife late in the morning on July 24. He has a criminal history, including drug and violent crime, the police said.

It seems that the woman who shot and fatally injured the attacker acted in defence and did not commit any crime. However, the case is still under investigation, being qualified as a robbery and attempted murder.

TL;DR - man tries to rob a firearms shop with a knife. Literally the embodiment of the adage, “never bring a knife to a gunfight”.

praguemonitor.com

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JordanRules  Jul 25, 2017 • 11:44:41pm

Joy Anne is late night tweeting. I love when she respects my insomnia (and our int’l Lizards). LOL
She was on it all day. Then, she finally got to see Hamilton tonight with her family. And she was back at it after.

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BeachDem  Jul 25, 2017 • 11:45:35pm

re: #33 Single-handed sailor

A Daily Kos story on the ACA and Republican plans explained as a 3 legged stool.

OK. Here we go. First, just as a refresher: Here’s what the Individual Market was supposed to look like under the Affordable Care Act:

Charles Gaba has been totally on top of all things ACA.

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Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2017 • 11:46:05pm

re: #35 JordanRules

Joy Anne is late night tweeting. I love when she respects my insomnia (and our int’l Lizards). LOL
She was on it all day. Then, she finally got to see Hamilton tonight with her family. And she was back at it after.

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“One day, we might receive a signal from a planet like this,” Hawking says in the documentary, referring to a potentially habitable alien world known as Gliese 832c. “But we should be wary of answering back. Meeting an advanced civilization could be like Native Americans encountering Columbus. That didn’t turn out so well.”

Well, you can’t deny that he’s got a good point.

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JordanRules  Jul 25, 2017 • 11:48:15pm

re: #37 Targetpractice

No doubt! And we’re all so traumatized that we’re looking for possibly suicidal escapes.

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Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2017 • 11:58:07pm

Thing is, unless an alien species has succeeded in bending over the laws of physics and giving them a work-out, there’s no way that any alien species that’s not already on its way here could answer our radio messages in a time span measured in something smaller than decades. So odds are if aliens show up on our doorstep, they were already on their way here and nothing we did made a difference.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:20:22am

Off to work. Later, Lizards.

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Kragar  Jul 26, 2017 • 1:16:59am
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Timothy Watson  Jul 26, 2017 • 1:23:06am

re: #41 Kragar

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We’ll build him a very spartan prison up there. Let it stand for eternity as a monument to how much this country debased itself by electing him.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2017 • 1:29:50am

re: #25 Joe Bacon 🌹

They got their puppet in the Oval Office and all they need him for is to sign the bills to kill Obamacare, Social Security and Medicare so the rich can get big fat juicy tax cuts!

Yep. That’s about it. They don’t care about him being an embarrassment to this country or lacking a presidential demeanor.

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Kragar  Jul 26, 2017 • 1:36:20am
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Kragar  Jul 26, 2017 • 1:38:52am
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freetoken  Jul 26, 2017 • 1:47:02am

re: #45 Kragar

I’ve gone on before about academics who become emeriti and their penchance to go wandering off into the intellectual wilderness.

Something similar happens to politicians in office, I propose, especially the Senate, where after enough decades, when they become very old, they just go off into their own definition of whatever adjective/adverb they want to use to describe themselves.

That our system is set up to create a hinderance to change - which is what the Senate effectively became - only makes it worse. This has been lamented many times in the 20th century, when Senators-for-life have proven to be roadblocks to what was needed, even as they had elaborate speeches of how great they were and all the great things they have done.

The whole Connecticut Compromise and its aftermath has been about adjusting our society to fit the whims of this or that group who, through one means or another, has enough power to hold back change.

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freetoken  Jul 26, 2017 • 2:03:51am

Nature editorial on a new bit of research in Education:

The digital native is a myth

[…]

The generational difference between the groups goes beyond their numbers of Facebook friends and Twitter followers: it can also help to explain differences in how they buy insurance. At least, that’s according to a report released this week for the insurance industry. Targeting Millennials with Insurance explains that young people aren’t like those who came before and queued passively for cover. They “prioritize holidays”, for one, which might surprise some of them. Because they are digital natives, they “will favor technologically innovative insurance policies”.

But a paper published last month in Teaching and Teacher Education reaches the opposite conclusion. The digital native is a myth, it claims: a yeti with a smartphone. […]

Perhaps the Nature editorial is wrong in asserting that the paper on education refutes the claims of insurance advertising claim. The insurance conclusions could still be true even if one of the premises is false.

Here’s the paper on education:

The myths of the digital native and the multitasker

Highlights

• Information-savvy digital natives do not exist.
• Learners cannot multitask; they task switch which negatively impacts learning.
• Educational design assuming these myths hinders rather than helps learning.

Current discussions about educational policy and practice are often embedded in a mind-set that considers students who were born in an age of omnipresent digital media to be fundamentally different from previous generations of students. These students have been labelled digital natives and have been ascribed the ability to cognitively process multiple sources of information simultaneously (i.e., they can multitask). As a result of this thinking, they are seen by teachers, educational administrators, politicians/policy makers, and the media to require an educational approach radically different from that of previous generations. This article presents scientific evidence showing that there is no such thing as a digital native who is information-skilled simply because (s)he has never known a world that was not digital. It then proceeds to present evidence that one of the alleged abilities of students in this generation, the ability to multitask, does not exist and that designing education that assumes the presence of this ability hinders rather than helps learning. The article concludes by elaborating on possible implications of this for education/educational policy.

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freetoken  Jul 26, 2017 • 2:07:10am

I think that has relevance to us in looking at our elections and voter turnout.

No matter how much opinion polls may show younger people being less conservative, and less likely to vote for Trump, we must not think that is wholly descriptive of what will happen in coming years.

Right after Trump was elected I posted a link to a historian who discussed that the whole arc of history narrative is just that - a narrative, not an inevitability.

Likewise, I propose, we must be careful to not fall into a myth of demography.

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freetoken  Jul 26, 2017 • 2:20:06am
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Lupin  Jul 26, 2017 • 2:59:26am

America’s Evil Empire actively seeking to harm the planet, with Trump’s new EPA hiring a team of fake scientists to poke holes in the evidence presented by mainstream climate scientists.

mashable

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Lupin  Jul 26, 2017 • 4:31:44am

Passport kontrolle in New Mexico:

huffpost

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jeffreyw  Jul 26, 2017 • 5:26:46am

Imgur


Good morning!

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 5:29:22am

re: #33 Single-handed sailor

A Daily Kos story on the ACA and Republican plans explained as a 3 legged stool.

OK. Here we go. First, just as a refresher: Here’s what the Individual Market was supposed to look like under the Affordable Care Act:

That was the best explanation of the various healthcare (quote unquote) options the GOP is considering. Simple to understand. Thanks!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 5:32:48am

re: #7 Unshaken Defiance

“We just need to do something, even if it doesn’t make sense, or even if it makes the things we complain about worse, because at least we can say we repealed the unpopular parts of Obamacare.”

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 5:35:15am

re: #48 freetoken

I think that has relevance to us in looking at our elections and voter turnout.

No matter how much opinion polls may show younger people being less conservative, and less likely to vote for Trump, we must not think that is wholly descriptive of what will happen in coming years.

Right after Trump was elected I posted a link to a historian who discussed that the whole arc of history narrative is just that - a narrative, not an inevitability.

Likewise, I propose, we must be careful to not fall into a myth of demography.

I still think trump was elected in large part due to his celebrity status and reputation. Sure, racists love him. But the average joe who knows jackshit about politics voted for the Kardashian candidate.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 5:36:40am

re: #53 MsJ

That was the best explanation of the various healthcare (quote unquote) options the GOP is considering. Simple to understand. Thanks!

Too complicated for the average Fox News viewer or Sean Hannity.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 5:37:24am

re: #55 MsJ

I still think trump was elected in large part due to his celebrity status and reputation. Sure, racists love him. But the average joe who knows jackshit about politics voted for the Kardashian candidate.

I think so too and the “successful businessman” bs.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 5:37:45am

re: #48 freetoken

I think that has relevance to us in looking at our elections and voter turnout.

No matter how much opinion polls may show younger people being less conservative, and less likely to vote for Trump, we must not think that is wholly descriptive of what will happen in coming years.

Right after Trump was elected I posted a link to a historian who discussed that the whole arc of history narrative is just that - a narrative, not an inevitability.

Likewise, I propose, we must be careful to not fall into a myth of demography.

This this and This.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 5:40:57am

AARP taking no prisoners.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 5:41:36am

re: #56 Sir John Barron

Too complicated for the average Fox News viewer or Sean Hannity.

Breathing? Yeah, I wonder about that sometimes, too. ///

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 26, 2017 • 5:45:27am

re: #29 Kragar

Oliver Willis ✔ @owillis
donald trump is a piece of excrement and so are the people who enable him and i dont want to pander to racists to win their vote ever

Unfortunately, especially given the voter disenfranchisement in red states, it may be necessary to appeal to these voters — but not on the race issue. For them, you can focus on the economics and attacks on big business and the banks.

OTOH: a direct quote from a gun fanatic friend: “I will say that one thing I enjoy about Trump is his implicit slogan: Screw Political Correctness.” His motivation for his support of Trump was anti-Hillary fanaticism. He apparently gets his news from Breitbart since he is friends with sleazebag Joel Pollack.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 5:46:19am

re: #61 Hecuba’s daughter

Unfortunately, especially given the voter disenfranchisement in red states, it may be necessary to appeal to these voters — but not on the race issue. For them, you can focus on the economics and attacks on big business and the banks.

OTOH: a direct quote from a gun fanatic friend: “I will say that one thing I enjoy about Trump is his implicit slogan: Screw Political Correctness.” His motivation for his support of Trump was anti-Hillary fanaticism. He apparently gets his news from Breitbart since he is friends with sleazebag Joel Pollack.

The funny thing is Trump is very PC when it comes to being lampooned himself.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2017 • 5:50:25am

re: #53 MsJ

That was the best explanation of the various healthcare (quote unquote) options the GOP is considering. Simple to understand. Thanks!

Good metaphor, but discussions of how many lose coverage are understatements. The loss is not only to those who have coverage, but loss of eligibility for those who still have not joined up. There are millions of those still to be reached.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 26, 2017 • 5:56:55am

re: #62 HappyWarrior

The funny thing is Trump is very PC when it comes to being lampooned himself.

The perfect violation of the Golden Rule. Which is probably why he’s besties with Evangelicals and Dominionists.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 5:58:02am

re: #64 Myron Falwell

The perfect violation of the Golden Rule. Which is probably why he’s besties with Evangelicals and Dominionists.

Yep. Typical bullies.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 5:59:11am

re: #63 Decatur Deb

Good metaphor, but discussions of how many lose coverage are understatements. The loss is not only to those who have coverage, but loss of eligibility for those who still have not joined up. There are millions of those still to be reached.

The biggest issue, imho, is employer mandate. Once that goes, so goes a lot of people’s healthcare. And they are thrown into something that will likely be unsustainable.

Meeting time. Cheers! BIAB

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 26, 2017 • 5:59:56am

Good Morning Lizard Nation. While in the shower I hear some DC reporter say “It’s going to be difficult for the GOP to come up with a replacement in time”. Difficult? They had years and years and got nothin except a rather obvious plan to reduce the poor population and help pay for the new teak deck on billionaires boats.

So tweeted this important reminder-

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:05:54am

re: #27 DodgerFan1988

Eric Trump was going on about the same kind of thing:

The Trump and GOP are dehumanizing their opposition. It makes it far easier to deprive people of human and civil rights if you don’t consider them people.

It’s also easier to deprive 20-30 million people of health coverage if you don’t think they’re people or worth covering.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:08:12am

My wife made a great point about Trump’s “I could be better than any president than Lincoln” speech: What about Reagan, conservatives?

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:13:28am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

Eric Trump was on Faux News pumping out the agitprop about the economy and other issues.

He thinks the economy is going great thanks to his dad. That’s even though Trump hasn’t passed a budget or implemented any economic policy that would change the multi-year trajectory of economic growth. This is the economy he inherited from Obama. The same economy and policies he slammed all during the campaign.

So, of course Eric transitioned to how the economy is better for miners now that Trump’s in office.

That’s simply not true and the multidecade trend is that mining is a dying industry - fewer people are needed to do the same or greater output, and coal mines are closing because it doesn’t make economic sense to keep them open.

So what does a Trump twit think of these facts? They think that want ads showing need for position is proof that the industry is bouncing back.

Right.

Let’s go to an apt analogy. Sears and Macys are businesses that have been around for more than a century. They employ tens of thousands of people in 100s of stores. Except both are suffering because changed economic circumstances (Internet sales) are killing their businesses (both) and poor business decisions - like forgoing Internet sales in the first place when you started out as a mail-order business (Sears).

Both are closing 100s of stores and thousands of people are losing their jobs.

Despite that, both will continue hiring people for remaining stores and even hiring people for shutting down businesses. That’s how businesses operate. It doesn’t change the fact that hiring a handful overcomes the 1000s who lose their jobs.

This is the derp we’re up against. People who don’t understand facts, logic, or instead substitute their own idiocies for reality.

The same applies to the health care debate, where the GOP are pushing a plan that would strip coverage from 20-30 million Americans and the GOP calls this freedom. It’s the freedom to gain a medically induced bankruptcy so that a millionaire can retain a bigger paycheck or tax refund at the end of the year.

This is the craven GOP that Trump heads, and Trump will sign anything put before him (when he remembers why he’s even there to sign something in the first place).

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:19:24am

re: #67 Unshaken Defiance

Good Morning Lizard Nation. While in the shower I hear some DC reporter say “It’s going to be difficult for the GOP to come up with a replacement in time”. Difficult? They had years and years and got nothin except a rather obvious plan to reduce the poor population and help pay for the new teak deck on billionaires boats.

So tweeted this important reminder-

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I quit showering with reporters—always looking for leaks.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:19:49am

re: #68 lawhawk

Eric Trump was going on about the same kind of thing:

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The Trump and GOP are dehumanizing their opposition. It makes it far easier to deprive people of human and civil rights if you don’t consider them people.

It’s also easier to deprive 20-30 million people of health coverage if you don’t think they’re people or worth covering.

Note to Eric, it’s all real America, you dingnus.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:22:20am

You know, I see liberals get called elitists but no one ever calls out the right for saying outright that the urban parts of this country aren’t “real America.”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:23:29am

re: #72 HappyWarrior

Note to Eric, it’s all real America, you dingnus.

And Eric Trump who’s lived his whole life in a Manhattan penthouse palace talking about who is a real American and what country section is real America is just…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:24:16am

re: #74 Sir John Barron

And Eric Trump who’s lived his whole life in a Manhattan penthouse palace talking about who is a real American and what country section is real America is just…

Funny as hell? Yeah it is.

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Bubblehead II  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:25:54am

So much for supporting the LGBT communities.

Next up, telling the LGB communities to shut up and get back into the closet. Thus fulfilling his unspoken promise to the religious right.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:27:46am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:27:48am

re: #76 Bubblehead II

So much for supporting the LGBT communities.

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Nice to know that if a group wants to serve their country, the Yam is there to say “No, you can’t because we’re uncomfortable with your gender identity”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:28:15am

re: #77 Dr. Matt

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Fun fact but the first prominent transgendered woman was in fact a U.S. Army Veteran.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:28:54am

re: #71 Decatur Deb

I quit showering with reporters—always looking for leaks.

No wonder the guy was all wet.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:29:42am

re: #76 Bubblehead II

Dont tell me Trump’s twitter account is not official US policy.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:30:54am

re: #76 Bubblehead II

Oh Caitlin Jenner? Your Response????????

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darthstar  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:31:36am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:32:09am

re: #83 darthstar

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Truman’s best moment as President IMO.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:32:36am

re: #76 Bubblehead II

So much for supporting the LGBT communities.

Next up, telling the LGB communities to shut up and get back into the closet. Thus fulfilling his unspoken promise to the religious right.

“focused on decisive and overwhelming victory….”

I guess we can’t just have regular old ‘victory’ anymore.

/

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I cannot.  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:32:39am

re: #81 Belafon

Until it comes down from DoD, its not “official” and given that this is ~9 am, I have no reason to believe that DoD has even HEARD about this…

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darthstar  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:32:39am

re: #76 Bubblehead II

So much for supporting the LGBT communities.

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Next up, telling the LGB communities to shut up and get back into the closet. Thus fulfilling his unspoken promise to the religious right.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:33:23am

re: #87 darthstar

For Trump, the “L” and the “G” and the “B” stand for Trump, too.

/

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:33:26am

Anyone who makes Mike Pence their VP is no friend of the LGBT community.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:33:46am

re: #88 Sir John Barron

For Trump, the “L” and the “G” and the “B” stand for Trump, too.

/

Except the hot lesbos that pose with his wife. //

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:34:58am

re: #83 darthstar

Wait, this is a joke right? Can’t be literally 70 years To. The. Day.

OMFG.

This guy

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:35:40am

re: #91 Sir John Barron

Wait, this is a joke right? Can’t be literally 70 years To. The. Day.

OMFG.

This guy

I doubt he’s aware but still.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:37:09am

re: #92 HappyWarrior

I doubt he’s aware but still.

He’s so evil that anything he does is likely to correspond to an inversely proportional just action from the identical month and day of yesteryear.

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darthstar  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:38:01am

I watched this but was disappointed when the pizza guy/plumber/cable guy didn’t knock on the door…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:39:42am

re: #94 darthstar

CLIP: @Statedeptspox says Secretary of State Tillerson is “taking a little time off.” pic.twitter.com

— CSPAN

So who’s minding the store over in Foggy Bottom?

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darthstar  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:39:50am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:40:06am
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darthstar  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:40:40am

re: #95 Sir John Barron

So who’s minding the store over in Foggy Bottom?

Jared.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:41:03am

re: #95 Sir John Barron

So who’s minding the store over in Foggy Bottom?

Jared probably. As I said last night, I don’t think we have an undersecretary of state yet and even if we did, it’s not like Jared is going to respect that.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:41:30am

re: #98 darthstar

Jared.

With help from Boris and Natasha.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:42:35am

re: #94 darthstar

Best and most vetted administration ever. Extreme vetting.

All these people Trump picked are incapable of doing the jobs Trump picked them for. This is a massive shit show and the GOP continues enabling it.

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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:43:14am

re: #94 darthstar

I watched this but was disappointed when the pizza guy/plumber/cable guy didn’t knock on the door…

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Spending more time with his legal team.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:43:50am

re: #87 darthstar

There really is a 45* tweet for EVERY occasion rebutting the latest bile to spew from his stubby little fingers.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:43:58am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:44:13am

re: #86 I cannot.

Until it comes down from DoD, its not “official” and given that this is ~9 am, I have no reason to believe that DoD has even HEARD about this…

Mattis will be OK with this. He recently sent down a directive to eliminate “distracting” training blocks for warfighters.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:44:45am

Pretty much this is why I don’t participate in replying to Ill Douche (that, and I blocked Trump… the embedded tweets from him on here are more than enough to stomach).

I’m not saying that others shouldn’t reply or troll Trump or his sycophants — by all means, have at it if you want. It’s just, to me, a game with all the predictability of Bugs Bunny vs. Elmer Fudd.

There needs to be a better way to respond to this garbage, but I have no idea what that is.

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darthstar  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:45:02am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:48:17am

re: #104 Dr. Matt

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Tough talk from an old piece of shit with a Nixon tramp stamp.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:49:11am

re: #107 darthstar

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I thought the blue collar workers in those states were all about the jobs and economic anxiety anyhow. Oh and they have trans family and friends too, you hateful fucks.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:50:34am

re: #94 darthstar

I watched this but was disappointed when the pizza guy/plumber/cable guy didn’t knock on the door…

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Don’t worry! Ivanka will be filling in for him!re: #100 Decatur Deb

With help from Boris and Natasha.

…and Yakov Smirnoff will fly in from Branson to assist!

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Myron Falwell  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:50:35am

re: #63 Decatur Deb

Good metaphor, but discussions of how many lose coverage are understatements. The loss is not only to those who have coverage, but loss of eligibility for those who still have not joined up. There are millions of those still to be reached.

And reach those people before they permanently fall for both-sidesing and whataboutism, blame “both parties” and either 1) hear the double-headed siren song of Susan Sarandon and Jill Stein or 2) give up and live their lives in squalor and misery.

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austin_blue  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:51:09am

Trump thinking:

“Okay, everybody says my base is going to grab torches and pitchforks if we take their healthcare away from them. How do I hip-check them to talk about something else? Ooh! I’ll kick the trannies out of the military!”

Trump reality:

He’s going to lose control of the House and Senate in ‘18 if he takes health care away from his base. There are not enough shiny objects, like kicking transfolk out of the military, to distract them for 16 months.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:51:15am

I pretty much called out any anti-trans people in my Facebook TL. Basically said you cannot claim to be anti big government and support this kind of policy.

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darthstar  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:52:16am

Sessions Roast - Day 3 - begins now.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:52:48am

re: #86 I cannot.

Until it comes down from DoD, its not “official” and given that this is ~9 am, I have no reason to believe that DoD has even HEARD about this…

The point was that no one can argue that what he says in tweets is just Trump blowing off steam or just rambling.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:54:22am

re: #111 Myron Falwell

And reach those people before they permanently fall for both-sidesing and whataboutism, blame “both parties” and either 1) hear the double-headed siren song of Susan Sarandon and Jill Stein or 2) give up and live their lives in squalor.

Outreach is dead for the duration—the news of a few days ago discussed diversion of ACA marketing dollars to an anti-signup propaganda effort.

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darthstar  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:55:31am

re: #114 darthstar

Sessions Roast - Day 3 - begins now.

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Thought finished.

I wish he’d stop going after McCabe…no relation, but still…the guy’s as clean as they come

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Bubblehead II  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:56:27am

Back in a bit. Time to mow the yard before it gets to hot.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:56:54am

re: #115 Belafon

The point was that no one can argue that what he says in tweets is just Trump blowing off steam or just rambling.

Fortunately the DoD financial drones will not disburse implementation funds based on a tweet. There is a long leap from the iPhone to the purchase order.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:57:21am

re: #118 Bubblehead II

Back in a bit. Time to mow the yard before it gets to hot.

Did my wife tell you to post that?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:57:49am

re: #117 darthstar

Thought finished.

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I wish he’d stop going after McCabe…no relation, but still…the guy’s as clean as they come

He’s wrong about this too. Governor McAuliffe’s PAC raised 500 K for Jill McCabe when she ran for State Senate here a few years ago. Nothing scandalous at all about that. Her opponent meanwhile was apologizing for Assad before it was cool and denying spousal rape was a thing.

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austin_blue  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:57:52am

re: #114 darthstar

Sessions Roast - Day 3 - begins now.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 6:59:04am

I admit, I’m trying to bait my anti-trans friend into defending this policy. Maybe I can change his mind about it but I doubt it. He’s a good friend but my brother and I have both noticed he’s an ostrich with his head in the sand on many issues.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:00:58am

re: #114 darthstar

Sessions Roast - Day 3 - begins now.

I’m shocked the Constitution does not allow POTUS to nominate an Attorney General.

/

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Myron Falwell  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:01:35am

re: #114 darthstar

Sessions Roast - Day 3 - begins now.

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A scumbag-vs-scumbag match where neither side wants to budge. Sessions clearly is refusing to resign and wants to be fired; Trump clearly doesn’t want to fire Sessions and is showing that he will totally undermine his authority** if he doesn’t resign.

** Which is kinda significant, as Sessions’ most heinous and unpopular policies he wants to see implemented get undercut further. And that can’t sit well with the RWNJs who are counting on Sessions to see them through.

Either way, this could be going on and on for longer than we think.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:01:36am

re: #61 Hecuba’s daughter

[snip]

OTOH: a direct quote from a gun fanatic friend: “I will say that one thing I enjoy about Trump is his implicit slogan: Screw Political Correctness.” His motivation for his support of Trump was anti-Hillary fanaticism. He apparently gets his news from Breitbart since he is friends with sleazebag Joel Pollack.

Yeah, they’re always against political correctness until you let them know how you feel about them in an un-politically correct manner. Then they whine like little children.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:02:13am

re: #126 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, they’re always against political correctness until you let them know how you feel about them in an un-politically correct manner. Then they whine like little children.

Yep.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:02:33am

re: #114 darthstar

Sessions Roast - Day 3 - begins now.

And who’s Comey? Oh, yeah, the FBI director you fired, meathead.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:02:33am

re: #109 HappyWarrior

I thought the blue collar workers in those states were all about the jobs and economic anxiety anyhow. Oh and they have trans family and friends too, you hateful fucks.

When the Rockwall mayor tried toget a bathroom ordinance passed, conservatives with trans family members stood at the meeting and drclared they would never vote for him again.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:05:30am

re: #114 darthstar

Sessions Roast - Day 3 - begins now.

Bait and switch here — tries tying money McCabe’s wife got from McAuliffe’s PAC to Comey.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:05:33am

re: #129 Belafon

When the Rockwall mayor tried toget a bathroom ordinance passed, conservatives with trans family members stood at the meeting and drclared they would never vote for him again.

I really wish conservatives could see it that way on all issues. Yes, you may not have a trans, immigrant, or whatever family member but someone does. As I said, it’s the lack of empathy that is the engine that pushes movement conservatism.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:06:26am

re: #130 Sir John Barron

Bait and switch here — tries tying money McCabe’s wife got from McAuliffe’s PAC to Comey.

Which isn’t outrageous at all. And if Hillary did raise money for Jill, more power to her. Her opponent was an still is an odious asshole. That’s my district.

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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:07:25am

So goddamned predictable. The Pentagon is all like ‘wait, what?’

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:08:00am

re: #117 darthstar

Thought finished.

I wish he’d stop going after McCabe…no relation, but still…the guy’s as clean as they come

On the one hand, regarding the secret Russia meeting that was uncovered recently and of which DJT and his acolytes want to claim such a meeting is “just politics and no big deal”, on the other hand, he’s trying to make a political donation six degrees removed from Comey a major scandal and conflict of interest.

See how this works?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:08:27am

re: #133 makeitstop

So goddamned predictable. The Pentagon is all like ‘wait, what?’

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The military to its credit is pretty forward thinking in many ways. Admiral Mulen called for transpeople to be able to serve.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:08:28am

re: #133 makeitstop

So goddamned predictable. The Pentagon is all like ‘wait, what?’

My shocked face.

/

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:11:28am

A lot of the justification for anti-trans policy is that transpeople make people uncomfortable. Well lots of stuff makes me feel uncomfortable. Doesn’t mean I push for it law. I mean as much as I dislike Evangelical churches and their practices, I don’t think they should be outlawed. Much as I dislike a lot of what goes on with college frats. Ditto.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:11:28am

re: #125 Myron Falwell

And to clarify, I’m eschewing the details in said Trump tweets. The big takeaway is, Trump and Sessions are clearly in a stalemate, so he’ll use people like Andrew McCabe and/or Hillary as a red herring… if it means he can gaslight and humiliate Sessions.

Sessions is the target. McCabe is collateral damage.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:12:06am

Mattis didn’t know? Well, of course not. Trump doesn’t know how to run the government, and barely managed to maintain his own businesses without running them into the ground.

Why should this be any different.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:12:23am

re: #114 darthstar

Sessions Roast - Day 3 - begins now.

I remember when I thought there was no way Trump could win the GOP nomination. Then I thought there was no way he could win the general. Then I thought Trump would surely pivot to a more rational, presidential posture once he won the GOP nomination. Then I thought Trump would surely mature into a more presidential like person as soon as he won the general election, or as soon as he was inaugurated, or as soon as he faced a major decision as president, or as soon as….

/

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dangerman  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:13:13am

re: #135 HappyWarrior

The military to its credit is pretty forward thinking in many ways. Admiral Mulen called for transpeople to be able to serve.

imagine, just for fun if say 10-20% of the military just walked off and said
“if you dont want us, here’s the keys. good luck”

i know if you’re in the military you don’t even think like that. still. you want it, you got it. do it without us. starting today.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:13:14am

re: #139 lawhawk

Mattis didn’t know? Well, of course not. Trump doesn’t know how to run the government, and barely managed to maintain his own businesses without running them into the ground.

Why should this be any different.

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Mattis is going to find out eventually he’s a figure head and that Trump only picked him because he thought Mad Dog was a cool nickname.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:13:27am

re: #138 Myron Falwell

And to clarify, I’m eschewing the details in said Trump tweets. The big takeaway is, Trump and Sessions are clearly in a stalemate, so he’ll use people like Andrew McCabe and/or Hillary as a red herring… if it means he can gaslight and humiliate Sessions.

Sessions is the target. McCabe is collateral damage.

The whole thing is just bizarre, as is this presidency.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:14:04am

re: #125 Myron Falwell

A scumbag-vs-scumbag match where neither side wants to budge. Sessions clearly is refusing to resign and wants to be fired; Trump clearly doesn’t want to fire Sessions and is showing that he will totally undermine his authority** if he doesn’t resign.

** Which is kinda significant, as Sessions’ most heinous and unpopular policies he wants to see implemented get undercut further. And that can’t sit well with the RWNJs who are counting on Sessions to see them through.

Either way, this could be going on and on for longer than we think.

Trump only has one mission for his AG; protect the Trump Crime Family, which has probably been laundering money for the Russians for years.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:14:10am

I may not want to leave Belgium in a few weeks guys.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:14:48am

re: #142 HappyWarrior

Mattis is going to find out eventually he’s a figure head and that Trump only picked him because he thought Mad Dog was a cool nickname.

Or that Trump picked him because he liked hearing Mike and the Mad Dog on 66 WFAN.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:15:40am

re: #146 Myron Falwell

Or that Trump picked him because he liked hearing Mike and the Mad Dog on 66 WFAN.

Either way, we agree that Trump only chose Mattis because of the Mad Dog monicker.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:16:33am

re: #114 darthstar

Sessions Roast - Day 3 - begins now.

I wonder how Alabamians feel about Trump’s shitty treatment of their former Senator now Trump’s “beleaguered” AG?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:17:53am

re: #148 Sir John Barron

I wonder how Alabamians feel about Trump’s shitty treatment of their former Senator now Trump’s “beleaguered” AG?

or how Stephen Miller feels. Sessions was his boss remember.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:20:18am

re: #148 Sir John Barron

I wonder how Alabamians feel about Trump’s shitty treatment of their former Senator now Trump’s “beleaguered” AG?

I’m cool with it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:21:01am

re: #145 HappyWarrior

I may not want to leave Belgium in a few weeks guys.

I sure understand why!

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:21:58am

re: #151 Joe Bacon 🌹

I sure understand why!

This is more than beer and chocolates, isn’t it?

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:22:01am

re: #72 HappyWarrior

Note to Eric, it’s all real America, you dingnus.

Divide and Conquer.

Bannon read all the “good” books. Trump is too stupid to know anything about tactics other than he read Mein Kampf.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:22:28am

re: #152 Decatur Deb

This is more than beer and chocolates, isn’t it?

Yes, fries too :).

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dangerman  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:26:09am

re: #68 lawhawk

Eric Trump was going on about the same kind of thing:

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The Trump and GOP are dehumanizing their opposition. It makes it far easier to deprive people of human and civil rights if you don’t consider them people.

It’s also easier to deprive 20-30 million people of health coverage if you don’t think they’re people or worth covering.

they forget, or do they, that all of those 20-30m are not the ‘opposition’

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:27:29am

Ok so when do the Republicans reinstate the gay/lesbian ban in the military?

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:28:05am

re: #97 Dr. Matt

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Where is Gary “Smokehouse” Johnson?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:28:25am

re: #156 Joe Bacon 🌹

Ok so when do the Republicans reinstate the gay/lesbian ban in the military?

I dunno. I suspect the Evangelicals will feel emboldened by this. The thing is this would have to go through Congress I believe.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:28:37am

re: #157 ObserverArt

Where is Gary “Smokehouse” Johnson?

Aleppo?

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Myron Falwell  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:32:16am

re: #159 HappyWarrior

Aleppo?

Sorry, but that needed to be in the form of a question… “what is Aleppo?”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:32:48am

re: #160 Myron Falwell

Sorry, but that needed to be in the form of a question… “what is Aleppo?”

Your mother’s a whore, Trebek.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:33:06am

re: #160 Myron Falwell

Sorry, but that needed to be in the form of a question… “what is Aleppo?”

Sixth Marx Brother.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:33:40am

re: #162 Decatur Deb

Sixth Marx Brother.

I thought that was Karl.

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I cannot.  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:43:25am

re: #149 HappyWarrior

Miller won’t give any fucks about how his former boss is treated, as long as the right groups are being fucked over, Sessions would just be collateral damage.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:44:45am

re: #164 I cannot.

Miller won’t give any fucks about how his former boss is treated, as long as the right groups are being fucked over, Sessions would just be collateral damage.

True.

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:45:45am

re: #133 makeitstop

So goddamned predictable. The Pentagon is all like ‘wait, what?’

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He’s President, he can do what he wants when he wants.

I want for him to go fuck himself big time.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:46:05am

I love this lady.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:46:47am
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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:48:42am
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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:50:55am

Is anyone even remotely surprised?

Tucked deep inside more than 200 pages of text is a tiny provision, recently added by the House Appropriations Committee, designed to defang the so-called Johnson Amendment — a section of the tax code that bars churches (a broad legal term that includes most faith groups) and other tax-exempt nonprofits from explicitly endorsing political candidates.

In its current form, the bill would effectively defund attempts by the IRS to take action against churches who violate the amendment by engaging in explicit political action. Any movement on the issue would necessitate a 90-day waiting period and require agents to notify two congressional committees and get sign-off from the head of the IRS. Nonprofits that lack a faith affiliation, meanwhile, would still be beholden to the amendment.

This isn’t the first attempt to hobble the statute. President Donald Trump has promised to “totally destroy” the Johnson Amendment, and weakened its enforcement in an executive order he signed back in May. The move, in turn, was celebrated by Religious Right leaders who have long championed repealing the provision as part of their “religious liberty” agenda, arguing it inhibits their free speech.

But experts say the GOP-led effort may be about something else, as the law is almost never enforced to begin with. Instead, the impetus for repealing the Johnson Amendment — especially quietly — may have less to do with ‘religious liberty’ and more to do with using religion as a means to create a new form of political power.

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Weaselone  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:51:23am

re: #107 darthstar

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This is just stupid. That Democrats support LGBT service in the military is implicit, they don’t have to make it a key plank in their campaign to get the people who oppose these actions to vote for them. At best, it’s a gotcha question, or campaign attack add that is pretty easy to swat aside by wrapping oneself in the flag and appealing to patriotism, service and sacrifice. These are people who are willing and able to serve and sacrifice for their country and they are being denied the opportunity by small people who shirked their opportunity to serve.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:51:54am

re: #145 HappyWarrior

I may not want to leave Belgium in a few weeks guys.

I’m still in the process of getting my new Chinese work visa. Getting it could not happen too soon. I’m feeling very uneasy about being in the USA right now.

Imagine feeling safer in a one-party oligarchy with constricted civil rights than in your own ostensibly democratic, free country. The irony is not lost on me.

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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:53:25am

Vets Against Trump are not amused. Thread.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:53:59am

re: #172 wheat-dogg

I’m still in the process of getting my new Chinese work visa. Getting it could not happen too soon. I’m feeling very uneasy about being in the USA right now.

Imagine feeling safer in a one-party oligarchy with constricted civil rights than in your own ostensibly democratic, free country. The irony is not lost on me.

Let’s just say I’m genuinely happy that I’m not living in the USA right now.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:56:02am

re: #174 Dr Lizardo

Let’s just say I’m genuinely happy that I’m not living in the USA right now.

My plans to retire outside the USA are even firmer than before. We may be able to get rid of Trump, but the damage he and the GOP have done so far will last decades.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:56:51am

Anyone else feel like the Trump/Pence agenda has been kicked into overdrive because they know something is coming… ?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:57:29am

re: #169 MsJ

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Pence had a lot of “gems” like this. So fucking stupid especially given that the Mulan story is older than his religion.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:58:18am

re: #174 Dr Lizardo

Let’s just say I’m genuinely happy that I’m not living in the USA right now.

I can’t say I blame you. I love our country but I worry about what we’re becoming.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:01:25am

re: #172 wheat-dogg

I’m still in the process of getting my new Chinese work visa. Getting it could not happen too soon. I’m feeling very uneasy about being in the USA right now.

Imagine feeling safer in a one-party oligarchy with constricted civil rights than in your own ostensibly democratic, free country. The irony is not lost on me.

That’s how I feel every time I cross into the states now. I just want to return to Canada.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:01:36am

re: #175 wheat-dogg

re: #178 HappyWarrior

Yeah, I’m planning on staying overseas for the foreseeable future. I agree - the damage Trump and the GOP are doing - and have already done - is gonna be with us for a long, long time.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:02:14am

re: #180 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, I’m planning on staying overseas for the foreseeable future. I agree - the damage Trump and the GOP are doing - and have already done - is gonna be with us for a long, long time.

That’s what I worry about too. The long term damage.

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:02:16am

re: #145 HappyWarrior

I may not want to leave Belgium in a few weeks guys.

I wish I would be in Belgium in a few weeks. The Belgian GrandPrix is August 27th at Spa.

A fantastic classic race track and race in the Ardennes area.

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I cannot.  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:03:03am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:03:27am

re: #182 ObserverArt

I wish I would be in Belgium in a few weeks. The Belgian GrandPrix is August 27th at Spa.

A fantastic classic race track and race in the Ardennes area.

You know who else raced through the Ardennes area?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:03:29am

re: #182 ObserverArt

I wish I would be in Belgium in a few weeks. The Belgian GrandPrix is August 27th at Spa.

A fantastic classic race track and race in the Ardennes area.

Going to Bruges.

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dangerman  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:03:48am

re: #169 MsJ

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i stopped at “sereptitiously”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:04:10am

re: #183 I cannot.

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And this is why I don’t like the Alt-Left at all.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:10:09am

re: #183 I cannot.

Nuke ‘em from orbit… that’s the only way to be sure.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:12:08am

Entirely predictable.

Tillerson’s going on vacation. Six months in and all these guys are taking vacations, when Trump goes ahead and makes significant departures from existing policy. That’s not coincidence.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:16:17am

re: #183 I cannot.

A lot of those supposed bernie supporters are ratfuckers. From that same thread.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:16:57am

re: #185 HappyWarrior

Going to Bruges.

Bruges is lovely. Hit the chocolate shop. Mmm mmm mmm!

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nines09  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:17:15am

Good day

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:17:26am

re: #186 dangerman

i stopped at “sereptitiously”

I generally stop at Pence. :-)

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:17:33am

re: #173 makeitstop

Vets Against Trump are not amused. Thread.

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Good. In a few more weeks Trump is going to have pissed off just about everyone in America.

I still believe he will hit an unsustainable point where the ejection button will be glowing and pulsing.Yeah, the GOP is going to hesitate to push it, but I count on Trump forcing it because he’s Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:18:54am

re: #191 MsJ

Bruges is lovely. Hit the chocolate shop. Mmm mmm mmm!

Yep that’s in the plans for sure.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:19:53am

re: #190 MsJ

A lot of those supposed bernie supporters are ratfuckers. From that same thread.

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Doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. The frustrating thing is though that a lot of real lefties bought it.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:21:18am

But it was his description of that process that was most revealing, and it got an appropriately bewildered look from host Chris Cuomo:

“Now, he’d be willing to accept a repeal-only bill. I actually think that’s the most likely bill to come out of the Senate is a repeal with a two-year delay that gives us two years to put the replacement pieces in. But I’ve always thought it would be wiser to bring them in, you know, one rifle shot at a time of the repairs that are there, rather than try to do it all in one bill.”

King just compared Trumpcare to a double tap. I couldn’t have said it better myself, other than to multiply that by hundreds of thousands.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:22:01am

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. The frustrating thing is though that a lot of real lefties bought it.

Stupidity isn’t solely owned by the right.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:22:24am

re: #198 MsJ

Stupidity isn’t solely owned by the right.

No, it’s not.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:23:02am
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:24:10am

On transgender ban in military: Mattis had just ordered a six-month review; he’s supposedly on vacation now. DOD refers questions to WH. This is fucked up.

telegraph.co.uk

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:26:40am

re: #179 MsJ

That’s how I feel every time I cross into the states now. I just want to return to Canada.

You know that is exactly what Trump and Company wants. That way they can end up with the country they want minus a lot of the people that would stop them.

Sadly some of us are not going to be able to afford to do anything but stay here in the U.S. and fight this shit off.

And now I am depressed.

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:27:28am

re: #184 Decatur Deb

You know who else raced through the Ardennes area?

A bunch of tanks.

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dangerman  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:27:45am

re: #201 Barefoot Grin

On transgender ban in military: Mattis had just ordered a six-month review; he’s supposedly on vacation now. DOD refers questions to WH. This is fucked up.

telegraph.co.uk

“as of now, i am in control here…”

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:28:35am

Thread. Read it.

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Lupin  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:28:36am

I already turned down (very politely) to invitations to the US in the last month; not setting foot in that sewer. People say they understand, they sound sad.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:38:09am

Wildfires are a big problem over in Europe, but this video is pretty impressive - 3 water tankers nearly simultaneously refilling.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:42:32am

cnn.com
Bet Milo won’t talk about this ever.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:44:23am

re: #205 MsJ

Thread. Read it.

Lindsey Graham is very concerned about this and John McCain thinks firing Mueller would be unwise.

/

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:44:46am

re: #206 Lupin

I already turned down (very politely) to invitations to the US in the last month; not setting foot in that sewer. People say they understand, they sound sad.

While I appreciate the sentiment, calling the US a sewer is fucking uncalled for. There are a lot of people trying to fix shit. No country is perfect and ours sucks right now, but honestly, WTF?

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:46:08am
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darthstar  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:47:39am

re: #133 makeitstop

So goddamned predictable. The Pentagon is all like ‘wait, what?’

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Interesting Times  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:47:58am

re: #190 MsJ

A lot of those supposed bernie supporters are ratfuckers. From that same thread.

My my, what an eloquent elaboration he offers on how and why to ratfuck. Well, two can play at that game, sleazy fucker - we should all go to conservative sites and post both anti- and pro-trump crap to fuck with their heads.

If traps are laid to trip you up, and there’s no room to avoid them, hell yes you have to “stoop” to “that level” to get them out of the way…

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Teukka  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:51:00am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:51:51am

re: #213 Interesting Times

My my, what an eloquent elaboration he offers on how and why to ratfuck. Well, two can play at that game, sleazy fucker - we should all go to conservative sites and post both anti- and pro-trump crap to fuck with their heads.

If traps are laid to trip you up, and there’s no room to avoid them, hell yes you have to “stoop” to “that level” to get them out of the way…

I’d love to turn the alt-right against Trump.

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:52:59am

Charles…if you are out there. Thanks for holding the fort. Just thought it a good time to mention it. Your site is still a good port in the storm. It may be getting bumpy from time to time, but it is still good to know it is here.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:54:23am

I mean JESUS CHRIST, think how this erodes confidence in federal law enforcement. And it’s all based on inaccurate reporting; probably something he heard on FOX. He’s the fucking President, he could ask the FBI to clarify any conflicts of interest, but he’d rather go on tweeting BS he heard on talk radio!

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Semper Fi  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:56:04am

re: #210 MsJ

While I appreciate the sentiment, calling the US a sewer is fucking uncalled for. There are a lot of people trying to fix shit. No country is perfect and ours sucks right now, but honestly, WTF?

Granted, our new Mt Rushmore candidate is clogging the drain at present but we’re busy finding out a lot about ourselves. We will get it all sorted and be better than ever…the process will be worthwhile.

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m0nkeyb0y  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:56:40am

re: #27 DodgerFan1988

Why do I get the feeling there’s going to be a genocide of Hispanic Immigrants and American Muslims coming soon in our lifetimes?

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This is freaking me out a bit considering his propensity for projection

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wheat-dogg  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:57:02am

I had a Facebook friend just now question my patriotism because I am an expat living in China. He said being an expat “fetters one’s mind.”

I responded with all appropriate vitriol.

But I am still pissed.

It was concerning my letter to the BSA.

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Interesting Times  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:57:31am

re: #210 MsJ

While I appreciate the sentiment, calling the US a sewer is fucking uncalled for. There are a lot of people trying to fix shit. No country is perfect and ours sucks right now, but honestly, WTF?

I took the liberty of reading more into Lupin’s comment, that is, “sewer” wasn’t meant to describe the entire US, just the cheeto-benito-enabling parts (which, unfortunately, are the ones with all the power & influence right now -_- )

I’m also boycotting all travel to the US until this insanity subsides (and in my case, I have genuine personal safety concerns - I’m of South Asian descent, and both random bigots plus the police feel emboldened to harass and even murder people who look like me)

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darthstar  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:57:31am
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Semper Fi  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:58:32am

re: #218 Semper Fi

Granted, our new Mt Rushmore candidate is clogging the drain at present but we’re busy finding out a lot about ourselves. We will get it all sorted and be better than ever…the process will be worthwhile.

This was intended for Lupin at #206. My bad

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:00:16am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:00:52am

re: #222 darthstar

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I thought rust belt voters cared about jobs anyhow not “distractions” like trans rights.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:02:27am

re: #224 Ace-o-aces

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Her creator literally put it on her. But yeah Breitbart you know better. JFC. Then again Trumpers got enraged at NPR for posting the Declaration of Independence. So maybe Breitbart has a problem with America itself.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:03:00am

re: #221 Interesting Times

I took the liberty of reading more into Lupin’s comment, that is, “sewer” wasn’t meant to describe the entire US, just the cheeto-benito-enabling parts (which, unfortunately, are the ones with all the power & influence right now -_- )

I’m also boycotting all travel to the US until this insanity subsides (and in my case, I have genuine personal safety concerns - I’m of South Asian descent, and both random bigots plus the police feel emboldened to harass and even murder people who look like me)

I totally get it. I live in Canada now and appreciate people not wanting to come to the US. I am an old, white woman. I don’t expect many problems but even I am uncomfortable. I get it.

I am still an American patriot. I love America (for good and for bad) and when it’s bad, I want to do whatever I can to help make it better.

What ticked me off was someone who is not American calling it a sewer. It rubs me the wrong way. Nothing personal to Lupin or anyone else, but this is like my husband and his nine brothers and sisters. Only they can beat up a sibling. Anyone else does it and the get the wrath of the entire family. America is my family…even if the ugly, drunken uncle has temporarily taken it over.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:03:38am

re: #224 Ace-o-aces

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:04:48am

re: #226 HappyWarrior

Her creator literally put it on her. But yeah Breitbart you know better. JFC. Then again Trumpers got enraged at NPR for posting the Declaration of Independence. So maybe Breitbart has a problem with America itself.

The Breitbrat’s problem with America is that they believe the wrong side won the Civil War. And that America fought against the wrong country in WWII (chiefly, Germany). And a host of other things I’m sure.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:05:26am

re: #226 HappyWarrior

Her creator literally put it on her. But yeah Breitbart you know better. JFC. Then again Trumpers got enraged at NPR for posting the Declaration of Independence. So maybe Breitbart has a problem with America itself.

Does the guy think the Statue of Liberty was meant to symbolize our commitment to keeping immigrants out of America?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:06:08am

re: #229 Dr Lizardo

The Breitbrat’s problem with America is that they believe the wrong side won the Civil War. And that America fought against the wrong country in WWII (chiefly, Germany). And a host of other things I’m sure.

Their ideal America is the Gilded Age when workers were exploited, women beat by their husbands without consequences, and racial minorities couldn’t so much as look at white people the wrong way without fear of being lynched. That dump is no better than Stormfront. It’ll be a happy day when they have to close up shop.

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:06:23am

re: #230 Ace-o-aces

Does the guy think the Statue of Liberty was meant to symbolize our commitment to keeping immigrants out of America?

Does the guy know where the Statue of Liberty came from?

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Dave In Austin  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:06:50am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:07:00am

re: #230 Ace-o-aces

Does the guy think the Statue of Liberty was meant to symbolize our commitment to keeping immigrants out of America?

I think he seriously does. Half of my family btw, first thing they saw coming here was the Statue of Liberty and they too were a group scapegoated by bigots like Trump.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:07:22am

Oh god, here’s another stupid thing for people to get upset about. They’re changing the formula of Coke Zero.

John Stossel actually did that test, back before he became a complete asshole.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:08:05am

re: #230 Ace-o-aces

Does the guy think the Statue of Liberty was meant to symbolize our commitment to keeping immigrants out of America?

He thinks she is sentient.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:08:52am

Godfather II
It’s set in a gangster movie but the New York in Godfather II is perhaps my favorite immigration scene in a movie ever. I always imagine my mom’s grandparents watching this scene as they emigrated around this same era.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:09:27am

re: #233 Dave In Austin

Was that a woodpecker waging its…tail?

I hate seeing the food chain in action. :-(

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:09:45am

re: #232 ObserverArt

Does the guy know where the Statue of Liberty came from?

Yonkers?

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:11:43am

If this is the same way Trump ran his business, it’s easy to understand why he kept going bankrupt.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:12:26am

re: #240 Ace-o-aces

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If this is the same way Trump ran his business, it’s easy to understand why he kept going bankrupt.

JFC.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:12:41am

re: #237 HappyWarrior

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It’s set in a gangster movie but the New York in Godfather II is perhaps my favorite immigration scene in a movie ever. I always imagine my mom’s grandparents watching this scene as they emigrated around this same era.

My mom’s parents were among those people, too. Their names are listed in the Ellis Island museum archives. My paternal grandmother’s family settled in Saskatchewan, so they were also immigrants but probably missed the whole NY Harbor experience.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:13:07am

I don’t feel bad for Sessions though. He was a rancid piece of shit before Trump came along into politics but damn. Trump will throw anyone under the bus to save his own skin.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:13:42am

re: #240 Ace-o-aces

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If this is the same way Trump ran his business, it’s easy to understand why he kept going bankrupt.

See also, Sears.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:14:37am

re: #242 wheat-dogg

My mom’s parents were among those people, too. Their names are listed in the Ellis Island museum archives. My paternal grandmother’s family settled in Saskatchewan, so they were also immigrants but probably missed the whole NY Harbor experience.

Dad’s family came before Ellis Island. We know when my mom’s maternal grandparents came. Her dad’s parents too but have yet to locate teh record. It’s such a moving scene to me because that really could be anyone of our story’s. My mom’s maternal grandfather wasn’t even 18 years old when he left Slovakia for here.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:15:04am

re: #243 HappyWarrior

I don’t feel bad for Sessions though. He was a rancid piece of shit before Trump came along into politics but damn. Trump will throw anyone under the bus to save his own skin.

I expect Sessions and Tillerson will jump ship soon. It’s clear Trump and his family want to run both offices themselves.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:15:26am

re: #240 Ace-o-aces

Trump and Sessions no longer speaking to each other: report hill.cm

Meanwhile, Sessions is quietly gathering potentially damaging information on Trump, much like J. Edgar Hoover quietly gathered potentially damaging information on…..well, pretty much everybody!

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:15:47am
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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:16:13am

re: #240 Ace-o-aces

What are the odds that the person who leaked that story is either:

1) Jeff Sessions; or
2) Donald Trump?

Can we agree to disagree and fire both for leaking?

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wheat-dogg  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:16:13am

re: #245 HappyWarrior

Dad’s family came before Ellis Island. We know when my mom’s maternal grandparents came. Her dad’s parents too but have yet to locate teh record. It’s such a moving scene to me because that really could be anyone of our story’s. My mom’s maternal grandfather wasn’t even 18 years old when he left Slovakia for here.

I get especially testy whenever someone starts ragging on immigrants. I take it very personally.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:16:17am

re: #215 HappyWarrior

I’d love to turn the alt-right against Trump.

The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:16:29am

re: #246 wheat-dogg

I expect Sessions and Tillerson will jump ship soon. It’s clear Trump and his family want to run both offices themselves.

Secretary of State Ivanka Trump and Attorney General Donald J. Trump, Jr.

WHEEEEEEEEE!!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:17:11am

re: #250 wheat-dogg

I get especially testy whenever someone starts ragging on immigrants. I take it very personally.

Me too. My SiL is an immigrant and I’ve had many immigrant friends and now clients.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:17:17am

re: #252 Dr Lizardo

Secretary of State Ivanka Trump and Attorney General Donald J. Trump, Jr.

WEEEEEEEEE!!

Welcome to Kazakhstan

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:17:35am

re: #251 Eclectic Cyborg

The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend.

Exactly.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:18:12am

re: #254 wheat-dogg

Welcome to Kazakhstan

Oh so Trump is really Sasha Baron Cohen & this is a new movie? Phew //

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:18:49am

re: #254 wheat-dogg

Welcome to Kazakhstan

Welcome to the United States of Trumpistan, LLC.

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BeachDem  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:19:40am

re: #153 ObserverArt

Divide and Conquer.

Bannon read all the “good” books. Trump is too stupid to know anything about tactics other than he read Mein Kampf.

Also, somebody should tell him that Hillary took Mahoning County out there in “real Amurka.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:20:24am

re: #256 HappyWarrior

Oh so Trump is really Sasha Baron Cohen & this is a new movie? Phew //

When I allow myself to dream about Trump resigning, I imagine him going up to the podium to deliver his farewell address to the nation, clearing his throat, looking into the camera and saying, “Ta da! The Aristocrats!!” and walking away.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:21:51am

re: #238 MsJ

Was that a woodpecker waging its…tail?

I hate seeing the food chain in action. :-(

Roadrunner……

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:22:06am

re: #259 Dr Lizardo

When I allow myself to dream about Trump resigning, I imagine him going up to the podium to deliver his farewell address to the nation, clearing his throat, looking into the camera and saying, “Ta da! The Aristocrats!!” and walking away.

Ha!

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:22:56am

Prediction: McCain says great things, does not follow with actions.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:23:32am

re: #257 Dr Lizardo

Welcome to the United States of Trumpistan, LLC NLC (No Liability Corp).

FIFY

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:25:32am

re: #252 Dr Lizardo

Secretary of State Ivanka Trump and Attorney General Donald J. Trump, Jr.

WHEEEEEEEEE!!

I assume Jonathan Turley and various other “experts” on Faux will say such moves are perfectly rational because WHAT ABOUT JFK AND RFK and because Trump is president and can appoint whoever he wants without interference from the Senate.

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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:25:44am
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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:26:38am

re: #260 Dave In Austin

Roadrunner……

Hey! I thought Roadrunners were blue and purple!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:27:10am

re: #235 Ace-o-aces

Oh god, here’s another stupid thing for people to get upset about. They’re changing the formula of Coke Zero.

John Stossel actually did that test, back before he became a complete asshole.

OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE AND OUTRAGES!!!!

I drink some Coke Zero although I generally prefer the Pepsi Zero product or whatever it’s called.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:27:16am

re: #264 Sir John Barron

I assume Jonathan Turley and various other “experts” on Faux will say such moves are perfectly rational because WHAT ABOUT JFK AND RFK and because Trump is president and can appoint whoever he wants without interference from the Senate.

What happened to Jonathan Turley? I used to have the biggest crush on that guy.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:28:12am

re: #268 MsJ

What happened to Jonathan Turley? I used to have the biggest crush on that guy.

The lawyer from GW? He’s pops up a lot lately to defend whatever issue the GOP or Trump wants to do. Last week wrote something up saying it would be Constitutional for Trump to pardon himself, etc.

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dangerman  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:28:34am

re: #259 Dr Lizardo

When I allow myself to dream about Trump resigning, I imagine him going up to the podium to deliver his farewell address to the nation, clearing his throat, looking into the camera and saying, “Ta da! The Aristocrats!!” and walking away.

double up ding
and sadly, no.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:28:35am

re: #262 Ace-o-aces

Prediction: McCain says great things, does not follow with actions.

Is he very concerned?

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:28:42am

re: #262 Ace-o-aces

Prediction: McCain says great things, does not follow with actions.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:28:59am

Yesterday John McCain bowed to the tyrant that mocked his war record. He IS the definition of a cuck.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:29:23am

re: #240 Ace-o-aces

If this is the same way Trump ran his business, it’s easy to understand why he kept going bankrupt.

Somehow this is all Obama’s fault.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:29:58am

re: #240 Ace-o-aces

If this is the same way Trump ran his business, it’s easy to understand why he kept going bankrupt.

I see @FLOTUS and I still think Michelle Obama.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:30:08am

re: #269 Sir John Barron

The lawyer from GW? He’s pops up a lot lately to defend whatever issue the GOP or Trump wants to do. Last week wrote something up saying it would be Constitutional for Trump to pardon himself, etc.

Yeah. He used to be on MSNBC with Olberman all the time. Now he’s like a different guy.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:30:38am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:32:28am

re: #277 lawhawk

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Yep.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:32:53am

re: #277 lawhawk

Six weeks after being shot, Rep. Steve Scalise is discharged from the hospital
— CNN Politics

This is great news. I don’t wish this on any member of Congress or public official (or anyone).

Also, if he didn’t recover the lunatic in the WH would start rounding us all up.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:35:12am

Goddamned typo. interested, not interesting.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:37:35am

re: #280 lawhawk

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Goddamned typo. interested, not interesting.

I don’t care about Eric Trump. He doesn’t care about improving health care in this country.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:38:45am

A slight and welcomed distraction might be needed right about now:

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:44:16am
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nines09  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:44:23am

re: #233 Dave In Austin

It knows you have salsa and wants some….

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wheat-dogg  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:45:09am

What has Education Secretary Betsy DeVos accomplished in six months?

Thankfully, not much.

edweek.org

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:47:10am
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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:47:30am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:48:17am

re: #220 wheat-dogg

I had a Facebook friend just now question my patriotism because I am an expat living in China. He said being an expat “fetters one’s mind.”

I responded with all appropriate vitriol.

But I am still pissed.

It was concerning my letter to the BSA.

How about all the soldiers we sent to “live” in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan? Are they not patriots?

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:49:12am

re: #258 BeachDem

Also, somebody should tell him that Hillary took Mahoning County out there in “real Amurka.”

I wonder what Congressman Tim Ryan from that very district was doing and thinking last night? I bet if he heard that “speech” he almost needed to be restrained from going in there and stopping Trump.

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No Depression  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:50:09am

She’s right, you know.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:51:02am

re: #242 wheat-dogg

My mom’s parents were among those people, too. Their names are listed in the Ellis Island museum archives. My paternal grandmother’s family settled in Saskatchewan, so they were also immigrants but probably missed the whole NY Harbor experience.

Yeah, my mom’s parents came from Ireland through Canada also.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:51:23am

re: #290 No Depression

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She’s right, you know.

She is.

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:52:28am

re: #276 MsJ

Yeah. He used to be on MSNBC with Olberman all the time. Now he’s like a different guy.

He got a contract with a new team.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:54:53am

re: #288 I Would Prefer Not To

How about all the soldiers we sent to “live” in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan? Are they not patriots?

The only patriots are the ones republicans deem worthy.

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dangerman  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:55:30am

re: #287 lawhawk

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if only this kind of proof of lying mattered

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:56:54am

re: #293 ObserverArt

He got a contract with a new team.

Seriously? Just money? No ideological shift due to some event? He didn’t fear for his life against Occupy people or BLM? He turned douchebag for fucking money?

AAARRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHH!

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:58:15am

re: #296 MsJ

Seriously? Just money? No ideological shift due to some event? He didn’t fear for his life against Occupy people or BLM? He turned douchebag for fucking money?

AAARRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHH!

I was just joking, but would it surprise you?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:59:05am

re: #294 MsJ

The only patriots are the ones republicans deem worthy.

Living overseas makes you suspect for a lot of folks on the right. You’ve been exposed to, and possibly contaminated by, foreign ideas and ways of living.

Somewhat analogous to Pol Pot’s idea of “Year Zero” and his ideas of a Cambodian cultural revolution.

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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:01:07am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:03:05am

re: #299 makeitstop

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Right on.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:04:50am

re: #297 ObserverArt

I was just joking, but would it surprise you?

Kinda. I thought highly of him. Kinda not because $$$$$.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:05:28am

Interesting read.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:05:41am

re: #298 Dr Lizardo

Living overseas makes you suspect for a lot of folks on the right. You’ve been exposed to, and possibly contaminated by, foreign ideas and ways of living.

Somewhat analogous to Pol Pot’s idea of “Year Zero” and his ideas of a Cambodian cultural revolution.

That’s what I’ve gotten from some people I debate online. As soon as they learn I live abroad, all my arguments are null and void. Somehow I am not an American if I don’t live in America.

Chinese expats have a similar problem. Even students coming back from a few years in the USA or UK are treated with suspicion or even disdain. Leaving China for study or work somehow makes them less Chinese in the eyes of nationalists.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:06:07am

re: #302 MsJ

They’ll probably both take the Fifth.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:09:39am

re: #302 MsJ

Interesting read.

I thought Manafort had made some kind of agreement with the committee to provide written testimony in lieu of the subpoena he was issued. Can’t recall the specifics but sounded like he would give them something.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:09:56am

Some more of “real America:”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:10:51am

re: #245 HappyWarrior

Dad’s family came before Ellis Island. We know when my mom’s maternal grandparents came. Her dad’s parents too but have yet to locate teh record. It’s such a moving scene to me because that really could be anyone of our story’s. My mom’s maternal grandfather wasn’t even 18 years old when he left Slovakia for here.

My father’s family came illegally to avoid the Nazis in Poland. Thus, I am one of the people Rep. Steve King wants deported if the GOP can get their overturn of birthright citizenship.

I ain’t rich. Unlike the commentator above who described the USA as a “shithole” and those who say they are planning to leave, I can’t afford it. Moreover, no one would take me in as an immigrant anyway due to my epilepsy and lack of education or wealth. (And by the way, the USA is not a “shithole,” it has some shitheads. There is a difference. I imagine you can find those in any country.)

I had some out-of-stater challenge me at the gas station in the county seat yesterday. He demanded to know “what right” I had sporting Gold Star Family license plates on my car. (Usually when I get a question about them, they want to know who in my family died in warfare, then thanks me, which I find awkward but accept.) I’m guessing that came about because of my long hair and olive skin.

The assholes need to be pushed back (I am thinking of wearing Nazi triangles on my clothes for the next village board meeting - red for political enemy [socialist] and black for disabled [life unworthy of life]. I’ll let folks ask about those.)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:10:54am

re: #306 wheat-dogg

Some more of “real America:”

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But don’t call them deplorable.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:11:19am

re: #220 wheat-dogg

“Fetters the mind,” a.k.a. teaches you that other people in the world are humans, too.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:12:16am

re: #305 Sir John Barron

I thought Manafort had made some kind of agreement with the committee to provide written testimony in lieu of the subpoena he was issued. Can’t recall the specifics but sounded like he would give them something.

He did but he wanted his transcript to be shared amongst the various committees and they wouldn’t go for it. The article explains it all.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:12:22am

re: #306 wheat-dogg

Some more of “real America:”

Nothing to see. Move along. She “apologized”.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:13:19am

re: #308 HappyWarrior

But don’t call them deplorable.

Proud deplorables.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:13:40am

re: #311 Dr. Matt

Nothing to see. Move along. She “apologized”.

I don’t believe for a second her claim that one of the women said something about Jesus. Somehow I doubt she knows that Christ is important to Muslims too.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:13:48am

re: #312 MsJ

Proud deplorables.

Yep.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:13:59am

re: #311 Dr. Matt

Nothing to see. Move along. She “apologized”.

Fuck. That. Live with the consequences you ignorant piece of trash.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:14:19am

Trump colludes with aliens

Link

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:14:33am

re: #311 Dr. Matt

Hensley says there’s more to the story and that she started yelling after one of the women made a derogatory comment about Jesus.

JFC, with all the lying.

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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:15:55am

re: #311 Dr. Matt

Nothing to see. Move along. She “apologized”.

‘I’m sorry your video of me being a fucking nasty bigot went viral.’

And of course, she plays the Jesus card. Lock her up.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:16:11am

And you know what even if something was said about Christ. That’s no reason to threaten to kill people. Besides, I thought Muslims were “violent” because of how they handle talk about Muhammad.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:16:19am

re: #313 HappyWarrior

re: #315
MsJ

Fuck. That. Live with the consequences you ignorant piece of trash.

MOST importantly (and not shocking):

Her car had a Trump sign, and she said he’s the one who is going to send us back to our country,” Soyan said.

Hensley apologized for the “horrible things that I said to the two ladies at Walmart,” according to her Facebook post. “It was not a Christian-like thing to do at all, and wish I could take it back, but I lost my cool, and I can’t.”

From: hpr1.com

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dangerman  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:16:22am

re: #303 wheat-dogg

Somehow I am not an American if I don’t live in America.

…the right *part* of america

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:16:59am

re: #318 makeitstop

‘I’m sorry your video of me being a fucking nasty bigot went viral.’

And of course, she plays the Jesus card. Lock her up.

I am so sorry you caught that on video and that it may impact my business when people see what a jerk I am. I am deeply sorry this video was released to the public. Fixed it for her.

As someone else in the article commented:

LivingLiberally • 2 hours ago
So this dumb bigot doesn’t realize that Muslims recognize Jesus as a Profit (sic) so her story is highly unlikely.

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:17:07am
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nines09  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:17:36am

re: #306 wheat-dogg

It’s all cool now….She apologised. She was just sticking up for JC, that’s all. Yep. All cool now….

F with JC and I’ll kill all ya’ll, ya’ll…

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:19:51am

re: #306 wheat-dogg

Some more of “real America:”

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Money quote: “Do you think the police care?” That’s the liberation Beauregard brings to Real America.

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Kragar  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:20:33am
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wheat-dogg  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:21:37am

re: #309 jaunte

“Fetters the mind,” a.k.a. teaches you that other people in the world are humans, too.

Right. You learn we Earthlings have more in common than we have in differences.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:21:40am

re: #326 Kragar

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Yep.

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nines09  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:21:47am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:22:36am

Just a reminder:

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wheat-dogg  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:23:36am

re: #321 dangerman

Somehow I am not an American if I don’t live in America.

…the right *part* of america

Well, I was born on Long Island, so I’m already a foreigner to a lot of “real Americans.”

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:24:05am

re: #330 Dr. Matt

Translation: “I hate gays a little less than I hate Muslims.”

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dangerman  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:24:12am

re: #313 HappyWarrior

I don’t believe for a second her claim that one of the women said something about Jesus. Somehow I doubt she knows that Christ is important to Muslims too.

As if that makes it totally acceptible behavior then

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:24:39am

re: #330 Dr. Matt

Just a reminder:

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Anyone who actually believed him is a damn moron.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:24:58am

re: #333 dangerman

As if that makes it totally acceptible behavior then

Exactly. It’s not.

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dangerman  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:26:09am

re: #331 wheat-dogg

Well, I was born on Long Island, so I’m already a foreigner to a lot of “real Americans.”

Same here

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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:26:11am

Seeing as how the Pentagon didn’t know about Trump’s new ban and he’s getting cuffed by Rs and Ds alike for it, how soon before he tweets a walkback?

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:27:01am

re: #337 makeitstop

Seeing as how the Pentagon didn’t know about Trump’s new ban and he’s getting cuffed by Rs and Ds alike for it, how soon before he tweets a walkback?

Walkback? Trump? He will be on Twitter fighting with everyone who disagreed.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:27:20am

re: #311 Dr. Matt

Nothing to see. Move along. She “apologized”.

She says it was not a Christian-like thing to do and she wishes she could take it back.

Hensley says there’s more to the story and that she started yelling after one of the women made a derogatory comment about Jesus.

Jesus is considered a prophet in Islam, so I’m calling bullshit.

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unproven innocence  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:27:35am

Charles, it looks like LGF (and many other websites) will soon be banned in Russia.
Russia Passes Bill Banning Tor, VPNs
Excerpts (bolding is mine):

The Russian Federation Council has approved a bill that would outlaw the use of virtual private networks, the Tor network, anonymous mobile messaging services and internet proxy services in general.

The bill requires ISPs to block any websites that allow the use of VPN services. Lawmakers said that the move was prompted by concerns about the spread of terrorist-related materials; others said that the crackdown is a move to enforce censorship and limit dissent and political opposition.

It’s one thing to require ISPs to block particular kinds of internet services, but by my reading, this law goes FAR beyond that.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:28:02am
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Stanley Sea  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:28:50am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:30:31am

re: #342 Stanley Sea

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Grifters gotta grift.

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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:30:55am

re: #338 MsJ

Walkback? Trump? He will be on Twitter fighting with everyone who disagreed.

There’s precedent, though.

Remember the joint US-Russia ‘cyber-security force?’ After tweeting out that is was going to happen and then getting his ears boxed on what a stupid idea it was, he tweeted this:

I think he’ll do the same thing here.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:31:40am

re: #339 Ace-o-aces

Jesus is considered a prophet in Islam, so I’m calling bullshit.

Crazy CPA lady believes JC is the Son of God, though. In fact, I bet she believes he was the one who created the world — a theological argument that confounds me no end.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:32:03am

re: #338 MsJ

Walkback? Trump? He will be on Twitter fighting with everyone who disagreed.

Mattis has very weak policy on transgenders who cost lots of money! Def Sec should do what POTUS says! Safer for our Vets! Everybody says!

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dangerman  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:32:45am

re: #342 Stanley Sea

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If the Lord didn’t want them fleeced he would not have made them marks— adapted, Calvera, Eli wallach

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:33:30am

re: #347 dangerman

If the Lord didn’t want them fleeced he would not have made them marks— adapted, Calvera, Eli wallach

Magnificent upding.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:34:43am

State spokesman says Tillerson taking a break. Why? Didn’t tell POTUS. Tillerson very corrupt man with Exxon. Not loyal!

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:36:41am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:36:54am

The Education Secretary is DeVos from Amway. Very funny business that is. Lots of lies! Also knows Blackwater guy who got us into Iraq, which was most disaster war ever for America!

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wheat-dogg  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:39:52am

re: #214 Teukka

Hey, what’s the latest in the big data breach in Sweden?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:41:37am

re: #350 MsJ

Reporter: Of course. I don’t think anyone’s arguing against that. But why not just say he’s on vacation then?

Nauert: I don’t know what is standard for Secretaries of State. How they actually list private days. Ummm, I can check to see what the prior arrangements were.

“I don’t know how to do my job and nobody wants me to confer with other people in past administrations who have done the job so that I could learn it, but that’s where we are. And also I only talk to Fox News reporters.”

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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:43:06am

Heh.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:43:09am

Dr. Carson is HUD leader. I practically made this man. He was nobody. Didn’t win any primaries! I felt sorry for him. Very weak leader and lazy!

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:43:33am

Read this thread:

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:46:08am

re: #331 wheat-dogg

Well, I was born on Long Island, so I’m already a foreigner to a lot of “real Americans.”

I live in Nebraska, so I’m a foreigner to a lot of people on the coasts. The “us versus them” attitude is not good for the country.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:48:05am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:48:40am

re: #354 makeitstop

Heh.

FFS, Shitler is now ranting in all caps. What an embarrassment.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:52:16am
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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:53:02am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:54:47am

re: #359 Dr. Matt

FFS, Shitler is now ranting in all caps. What an embarrassment.

Upding for Shitler

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John Carter  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:56:47am

re: #206 Lupin

I already turned down (very politely) to invitations to the US in the last month; not setting foot in that sewer. People say they understand, they sound sad.

I am a little shocked by this comment. I would like to tell you (very politely) to … well I will refrain.

It is the Trump supporters that think the US is a sewer. Change the channel.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:58:26am

re: #361 jaunte

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It’s what a bully does.

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:04:30am

re: #323 gocart mozart

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Way to represent Ohio!

And, I’d say whoever made his signs is a graphics pro.

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unproven innocence  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:04:50am

re: #352 wheat-dogg

Hey, what’s the latest in the big data breach in Sweden?

One recent story:
Sweden Accidentally Leaks Personal Details of Nearly All Citizens
Monday, July 24, 2017
Excerpt:

According to Falkvinge, the leak exposed:

The weight capacity of all roads as well as bridges (which is crucial for warfare, and gives a lot idea about what roads are intended to be used as wartime airfields).
Names, photos, and home addresses of fighter pilots in the Air Force.
Names, photos, and home addresses of everybody in a police register, which are believed to be classified.
Names, photos, and residential addresses of all operators in the military’s most secret units that are equivalent to the SAS or SEAL teams.
Names, photos, and addresses of everybody in a witness relocation program, who has been given protected identity for some reasons.
Type, model, weight, and any defects in all government and military vehicles, including their operator, which reveals a much about the structure of military support units.

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:08:18am

re: #344 makeitstop

There’s precedent, though.

Remember the joint US-Russia ‘cyber-security force?’ After tweeting out that is was going to happen and then getting his ears boxed on what a stupid idea it was, he tweeted this:

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I think he’ll do the same thing here.

Yeah. Trump walks nothing back. Too fat to turn around. He walks around it or ignores he ever said it.

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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:10:16am

The stage is set for Benghazi II at this point. State Dept. head of Diplomatic Security resigns.

If the US were to be attacked today, there would be no way to effectively respond.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:10:34am
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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:10:48am

re: #367 ObserverArt

Yeah. Trump walks nothing back. Too fat to turn around. He walks around it or ignores he ever said it.

Dude, the tweet. He fucking walked it back.

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Teukka  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:13:05am

re: #366 unproven innocence

One recent story:
Sweden Accidentally Leaks Personal Details of Nearly All Citizens
Monday, July 24, 2017
Excerpt:

Latest is that no confidence with the assistance of the local right wing (Sweden Democrats) is moving forward for 3 ministers in the admin.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:14:42am

re: #369 Ace-o-aces

Eventually all their products will look and taste exactly alike.
adage.com

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Kragar  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:16:37am
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wrenchwench  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:17:04am
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darthstar  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:18:49am

re: #9 Belafon

From the previous thread:

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What’s great about this is NY can go after Kushner, and there’s nothing Trump can do about it.

I’d love to see NY file charges soon…then we’d see if Trump would pardon Jared for Money Laundering so he could continue to focus on colluding with the Russians.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:19:01am

re: #373 Kragar

“Sir, Conservatives are really pissed about you attacking Sessions.”
“How about I attack Trans people?”
“Brilliant move, Mr Trump!”

Pretty much this. I hadn’t heard that SoCons were upset at Trump for going after Sessions, but I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised by that.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:20:23am

This has to be one of the stupidest periods in U.S. history.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:21:20am

re: #220 wheat-dogg

I had a Facebook friend just now question my patriotism because I am an expat living in China. He said being an expat “fetters one’s mind.”

I responded with all appropriate vitriol.

But I am still pissed.

It was concerning my letter to the BSA.

I can easily count 15 members of my family that are veterans including myself. I agree with you. Your friend can fuck off with their patriotism crap.

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dangerman  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:21:48am

re: #367 ObserverArt

Yeah. Trump walks nothing back. Too fat to turn around. He walks around it or ignores he ever said it.

he’s either a liar or the most craven and voluminous flip-flopper ever

put his opposing tweets side by side. videos too.

as you say, he ignores it

and no one cares.

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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:22:05am

re: #377 jaunte

Trump banned transgender service members to secure funding to build border wall, Politico reports.

Because everyone knows that trans soldiers are costing the government $30 billion.

(Did somebody on Fox & Friends float this stupid idea this morning?)

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wrenchwench  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:22:10am

re: #377 jaunte

This has to be one of the stupidest periods in U.S. history.

There’s SOOO much competition!

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KGxvi  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:22:13am

re: #377 jaunte

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This has to be one of the stupidest periods in U.S. history.

Well, there were these guys, once…

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:23:23am

re: #370 makeitstop

Dude, the tweet. He fucking walked it back.

Yeah, I guess…but he is still being arrogant about the original statement like “I knew that I couldn’t all along, but I said it anyway to get a response.”

Just mark me down for not being able to stand his shit any longer. I hear his voice and I get sick.

I’ve lived through some questionable presidents, but no one compares to the ignorant Trump that is so full of arrogance and shit. There is not one redeeming quality to him. Zero!

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:24:01am

re: #380 makeitstop

RAND Survey: Additional health care costs added by transgender service members could range between $2.4 million and $8.4 million.

Lobbing missiles at an empty airfield in Syria: $59 million.

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KGxvi  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:24:03am

re: #379 dangerman

he’s either a liar or the most craven and voluminous flip-flopper ever

put his opposing tweets side by side. videos too.

as you say, he ignores it

and no one cares.

He’s Humpty Dumpty

Wingnut Logic
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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:36:33am

And in today’s edition of ‘Talking to a Brick Wall’…

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wheat-dogg  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:38:37am

re: #386 makeitstop

And in today’s edition of ‘Talking to a Brick Wall’…

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Trump will do what Trump wants to do. Reasoning with him will not work.

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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:39:15am

Equality House ain’t having none of this ban…

Facebook Post

Facebook Post

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:39:53am

re: #388 makeitstop

Governor Abbott will see you in the men’s room.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:40:11am

re: #386 makeitstop

And in today’s edition of ‘Talking to a Brick Wall’…

Hahahahahahahahahah

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:40:46am
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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:41:01am

re: #387 wheat-dogg

Trump will do what Trump wants to do. Reasoning with him will not work.

I think when Trump is contested on an idea or plan telling him not to do it is actually encouraging him to do it.

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wrenchwench  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:41:10am

Maybe Trump should get the men out of the military.

/

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Stanley Sea  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:42:15am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:42:22am

re: #392 ObserverArt

I think when Trump is contested on an idea or plan telling him not to do it is actually encouraging him to do it.

He’s the very incarnation of the “challenge accepted” meme.

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:43:08am

The Boy Scout President (CEO of AT&T) should resign because he is has conflict of interest.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:43:09am

re: #392 ObserverArt

I think when Trump is contested on an idea or plan telling him not to do it is actually encouraging him to do it.

Pretty much. He never outgrew the toddler stage of development.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:45:58am
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wheat-dogg  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:46:05am

re: #396 gocart mozart

The Boy Scout President (CEO of AT&T) should resign because he is has conflict of interest.

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Technically, Stephenson is the president of the national board of directors of the BSA. The top guy (like a CEO) is Michael Surbaugh, who has his own corporate connections to Washington.

Another lizard corrected me on this matter a few days ago.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:47:22am
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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:48:53am

“Uhhh” is the answer.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:49:15am

re: #398 jaunte

“The best generals.”

“Which ones?”

“Well, one general.”

“Which general?”

“Uh, Trump.”

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EPR-radar  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:51:55am

re: #398 jaunte

Someone should suggest to tr*mp that he give himself grand titles, starting with “Greatest Field Commander of All Time”.

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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:52:09am

But that’s a feature, not a bug.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:56:02am
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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:57:18am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:57:38am

re: #404 makeitstop

It’s unclear what impact his decision has on transgender people currently serving in the armed forces. (The announcement came on the 69th anniversary of Executive Order 9981, when President Harry Truman signed ending racial discrimination in the US military.)

We discussed this a bit earlier but, sweet fancy moses.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:59:23am
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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:59:28am
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dangerman  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:59:32am

re: #400 jaunte

[Embedded content]Again, the real problem is not Trump. It’s all the institutional actors who see this behavior and do nothing credible to stop it.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:59:52am

re: #406 gocart mozart

If we’d only listened to the JBS, Communists wouldn’t have taken over America.

//

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whitebeach  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:59:53am

re: #267 Sir John Barron

OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE AND OUTRAGES!!!!

I drink some Coke Zero although I generally prefer the Pepsi Zero product or whatever it’s called.

I think it was Kurt Vonnegut who observed that only Americans would buy a drink based on the claim that it had no nutritional value whatsoever.

Hey, don’t blame me. Blame Vonnegut.

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Kragar  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:00:11pm
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darthstar  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:00:37pm
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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:00:52pm

Ask it again, free press.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:01:05pm

re: #408 jaunte

Apparently our troops are too ready and need to be confused.

/

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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:01:26pm

re: #413 Kragar

Huckabee Sanders THREATENS TO END THE BRIEFING if reporters keep asking about the transgender military ban

I take it no one has asked who these generals and admirals are who Trump got his advice from.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:01:44pm

re: #416 Sir John Barron

The Putinifaction proceeds.

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:02:05pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:02:07pm

re: #413 Kragar

UH OH SOMEONE’S GETTING MAD NOW!

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freetoken  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:02:24pm

Oft is has been said,
Whilst birds fly and beetles flitter,
That we all make our bed
on a device called Twitter.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:04:45pm

re: #413 Kragar

GEORGE IS GETTING UPSET!

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Kragar  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:06:54pm
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Kragar  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:07:51pm

re: #422 Sir John Barron

GEORGE IS GETTING UPSET!

And when George gets upset, Mr Biggles gets angry, and when Mr Biggles gets angry, PEOPLE DIE!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:08:31pm

re: #423 Kragar

Pretty sure this group of generals and military “experts” consists of disgraced former NSA Flynn and that wacko former chaplain now a state rep in Colorado.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:09:18pm

re: #403 EPR-radar

Someone should suggest to tr*mp that he give himself grand titles, starting with “Greatest Field Commander of All Time”.

“Caudillo”.

“Generalissimo”.

“El Jefe”.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:10:30pm

“After consultation with my Generals”

Am I the only one that read this as after consulting my genitals????

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freetoken  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:11:28pm

Because you still have too many brain cells:

Full Moon Size 177% after 2 hours on Flat Earth Analysis

From the channel “Gods Flat Earth”. The text description on the video:

Original Source : Flat Max UK

youtube.com

JUSTICE FOR CHELSEY

Youtube Video

Chelsey Wright is a mother of three who was drugged and raped last September. Police arrested six “refugees” then released them and dropped the case.

PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION: justiceforchelsey.com

[…]

This series of videos, although presented by a christian believer, should be of interest to everyone. The observational and factual content should be thought provoking to people of all faiths and atheists alike.

Below is a link to a blog concerning the 9/11 New York building collapses. […]

Multiple delusions.

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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:11:38pm

re: #427 I Would Prefer Not To

“After consultation with my Generals”

Am I the only one that read this as after consulting my genitals????

Probably.

430
KGxvi  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:12:18pm

re: #427 I Would Prefer Not To

“After consultation with my Generals”

Am I the only one that read this as after consulting my genitals????

Possibly? Probably?

On some level I feel like I should be used to it by now, but I still find it off putting when Trump says “my generals”. Then again, it’s not normal and I really hope I don’t ever get used to it.

431
wrenchwench  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:13:04pm

[…]

A group of concerned doctors, nurses, midwives, and hospital administrators, including CMQCC medical director Elliott Main, started a maternal mortality review board to pore over each death in detail and identify its root causes. Pretty quickly, hemorrhage and preeclampsia (pregnancy-induced severe high blood pressure) floated to the top of the list as the two most common — and preventable — causes of death.

It’s difficult to overstate how revolutionary this simple first step was in the arena of maternal health. About half of US states still don’t formally review the causes of maternal death on a regular basis to find out which deaths are preventable and how to stop future similar deaths from occurring. The US National Center for Health Statistics hasn’t even published an official maternal mortality rate since 2007 — that’s how low-priority this issue is.

[…]

Mothers die too often because women’s health isn’t valued in the US

[…]

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:13:45pm

re: #238 MsJ

Was that a woodpecker waging its…tail?

I hate seeing the food chain in action. :-(

Me, too.

433
Citizen K  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:14:18pm

re: #427 I Would Prefer Not To

“After consultation with my Generals”

Am I the only one that read this as after consulting my genitals????

Pretty sure that’s a few inches north of what he actually consulted.

434
KGxvi  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:15:45pm

re: #428 freetoken

There’s an instagram page that I check occasionally that’s a flat earth page. Every once in a while, I want to ask them how they explain the amount of day light and twilight that Ushuaia, Capetown, and Sydney get on December 20, but I just can’t bring myself to engage with them.

Although, rather entertainingly, Kelly Slater (pro surfer) has started commenting on posts and picking fights with them. Which is pretty cool.

435
wrenchwench  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:20:05pm

re: #432 Jebediah, RBG

Me, too.

Birds gotta eat. Some of them eat bugs, some eat lizards, many eat other birds.

436
Dr Lizardo  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:20:12pm

re: #434 KGxvi

There’s an instagram page that I check occasionally that’s a flat earth page. Every once in a while, I want to ask them how they explain the amount of day light and twilight that Ushuaia, Capetown, and Sydney get on December 20, but I just can’t bring myself to engage with them.

Although, rather entertainingly, Kelly Slater (pro surfer) has started commenting on posts and picking fights with them. Which is pretty cool.

I was telling a student of mine about that whole flat-earth twaddle; she didn’t believe me, so I told her to check out some info about online.

I saw her today, and she still had a hard time processing that yes, some people really are that clueless.

437
Anymouse 🌹  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:20:31pm
gocart mozart

People who use the word “whilst” should be drawn and quartered whilst being tarred and feathered.

I’ll think about that whilst you pluck the chickens.

438
Kragar  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:27:03pm
439
Kragar  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:29:05pm
440
Jebediah, RBG  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:29:19pm

re: #320 Dr. Matt

MOST importantly (and not shocking):

Listen asshole, it is the shit you say when you “lose your cool” that tells us who and what you really are.

441
Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:29:26pm

re: #423 Kragar

After consultation with my Generals and military experts, please be advised that the United States Government will not accept or allow……

— Donald J. Trump

Dude, shutup. You watch Fox News and play on Twitter all day. We know you don’t take time to “consult” anyone about anything.

442
gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:31:40pm
443
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:34:15pm
444
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:35:12pm
445
nines09  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:35:16pm

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:36:00pm

re: #421 freetoken

Oft is has been said,
Whilst birds fly and beetles flitter,
That we all make our bed
on a device called Twitter.

All I have to say to you good sir is

The 100 Greatest Movie Insults of All Time

447
Franklin  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:36:02pm

re: #438 Kragar

Capital “H” Hero in more ways than one.

448
Franklin  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:37:41pm

re: #438 Kragar

Great interview/article. Anyone that hasn’t read it should scroll back up and check it out.

When asked about potential problems with unit cohesion or war fighting, Beck said those were not issues that would arise from transgender service members, but from leadership.

“A very professional unit with great leadership wouldn’t have a problem,” Beck said. “I can have a Muslim serving right beside Jerry Falwell, and we’re not going to have a problem. It’s a leadership issue, not a transgender issue.”

449
Big Beautiful Door  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:37:59pm

re: #444 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

They think it’s a winning issue for them. This ban is all about politics; much the way they attack immigrants and Muslims. They disgust me.

450
dangerman  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:37:59pm

re: #436 Dr Lizardo

I was telling a student of mine about that whole flat-earth twaddle; she didn’t believe me, so I told her to check out some info about online.

I saw her today, and she still had a hard time processing that yes, some people really are that clueless.

they’re playing silly rhetorical games, not demonstrating or proving anything physically or scientifically.

the cosmos functions as if the earth is round. doesnt matter if it ‘really’ isnt

are all the orbs, planets and stars flat or just earth?
twaddle

451
Stanley Sea  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:38:02pm
452
Ace Rothstein  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:38:10pm

re: #232 ObserverArt

Does the guy know where the Statue of Liberty came from?

Trumps’ Taj Mahal casino?

453
Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:38:30pm

re: #448 Franklin

Great interview/article. Anyone that hasn’t read it should scroll back up and check it out.

FAKE NEWS WHY DO YOU HATE THE TROOPS>!

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:39:16pm
455
Anymouse 🌹  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:40:16pm

re: #453 Sir John Barron

FAKE NEWS WHY DO YOU HATE THE TROOPS>!

You know what I cared about when I was in the Navy? That the people I worked with did their flippin’ jobs. I could give a hoot less who they were attracted to, what their religion was, who they voted for, &c.

456
Franklin  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:41:51pm

re: #455 Anymouse 🌹

You know what I cared about when I was in the Navy? That the people I worked with did their flippin’ jobs. I could give a hoot less who they were attracted to, what their religion was, who they voted for, &c.

Would you say that was common amongst your fellow servicemen?

457
Flying Squirrel Girl  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:46:26pm

re: #449 Big Beautiful Door

This exactly. Throwing a bone to their evangelical base to shore up support and distract from much larger and more serious issues facing the administration.

458
Jebediah, RBG  Jul 26, 2017 • 12:57:56pm

re: #435 wrenchwench

Birds gotta eat. Some of them eat bugs, some eat lizards, many eat other birds.

I know. I just don’t like seeing it.

459
Momkat56  Jul 26, 2017 • 1:18:27pm

re: #148 Sir John Barron

Bless his heart (you know what that means to us Alabamians). He was in my father’s law school class, and Dad says nobody figured he’d amount to much. I guess infamous is better than no-famous.

460
darthstar  Jul 26, 2017 • 1:32:33pm

Huckabooboo isn’t a Snowflake…she’s a Snowflake Nationalist.

461
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 26, 2017 • 2:51:31pm

re: #419 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

One look at that and I wish for a real life version of Snakes On A Plane!


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