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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:37:21pm

At the rate we are going this week, I would not be surprised at all to have Donald Trump procalim that his public rallies and all military functions must re-institute the Bellamy Salute to display absolute loyalty to him.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:38:23pm

“A week only half over”—today Boston public radio was lamenting that they can’t stop following Trump and are now consistently under-reporting local news, but have pledged to reverse the trend.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:38:48pm

re: #1 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

At the rate we are going this week, I would not be surprised at all to have Donald Trump procalim that his public rallies and all military functions must re-institute the Bellamy Salute to display absolute loyalty to him.

Laura Ingraham will read the proclamation.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:39:55pm

Posted it downstairs. Talk about an oopsie doopsies.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:41:34pm
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scottslemmons  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:42:52pm

Ugh, just don’t see much hope for the future. The Republicans are going to get just about everything they want, everyone’s getting fatigued, the press has hit the “It’s fun to see what Trump will get away with next, it’s not like he’ll hurt us, tee hee” point, and I probably won’t have insurance next year.

Yeah, yeah, I’m too negative so I suck and should go die. But I haven’t seen a single point I can cite for future optimism.

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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:48:38pm

Thread.

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No Depression  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:50:30pm

re: #4 Myron Falwell

Posted it downstairs. Talk about an oopsie doopsies.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:51:33pm

Well now.

Look at whose name just came up as a person of interest in the Russian hacking investigation.

Two Notorious ‘Alt-Right’ Figures May Play Key Roles in Russia Investigation

The alt-right’s presence seemingly pervades every corner of the Donald Trump administration, so perhaps it’s no surprise that key players in the extremist white nationalist movement are turning out to be involved in the president’s scandals as well — namely, the ongoing investigation into potential collusion between Russian intelligence and members of the Trump campaign.

Two major alt-right figures — Charles C. Johnson, the white nationalist “Trump’s Troll” who reportedly acted as an adviser to the administration’s transition team, and notorious neo-Nazi hacker Andrew “weev” Auernheimer — have been implicated in the Russia investigation, according to a recent piece by Ben Schreckinger in Politico.

Seeing the Rage Furby facing a stint at “Club Fed” would just warm my heart to no end.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:52:47pm
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Myron Falwell  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:54:49pm

This is not a group that is acting like it has the upper hand.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:56:28pm
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retired cynic  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:56:42pm

re: #11 Myron Falwell

This is not a group that is acting like it has the upper hand.

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If they miss the reconciliation limit, it won’t matter whether they back it or not. The Senate can filibuster it. Right?

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No Depression  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:58:18pm

re: #9 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Seeing the Rage Furby facing a stint at “Club Fed” would just warm my heart to no end.

He won’t be very popular with the general population when they find out he’s a floorshitter.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:58:37pm

I found that line about “everybody calls me Pickle” on an author’s website, and tweeted it.

Not saying it means the letter is fake, but nothing would surprise me now.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 7:59:17pm
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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:00:30pm

re: #12 Amory Blaine

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Video

I raise.

“Weird Al” Yankovic - I Lost On Jeopardy

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:01:51pm

re: #15 wheat-dogg

“Pickle Culpepper from Murder and Mayhem in Goose Pimple Junction”
kathrynlively.com

“Pickle: No ma’am. My real name is Dylan. But my daddy doesn’t like that name. Never has. Soon as I was born and my mama insisted on namin’ me that, Daddy started callin’ me Pickle. Said “Dylan” reminded him of dill pickles. Now just about everybody calls me Pickle. Even Mama.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:02:04pm

I get a hoot out of Wonkette’s headlines.

Senate Obamacare Repeal Now at Confused Clusterfuck Stage

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darthstar  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:07:01pm
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No Depression  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:07:42pm

Trevor Noah is on fire tonight.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:10:33pm

re: #13 retired cynic

If they miss the reconciliation limit, it won’t matter whether they back it or not. The Senate can filibuster it. Right?

Correct. For example the Senate Parliamentarian ruled BCRA didn’t qualify for reconciliation, so it needed sixty votes to pass, and got only 43.

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darthstar  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:13:06pm

re: #22 Big Beautiful Door

Correct. For example the Senate Parliamentarian ruled BCRA didn’t qualify for reconciliation, so it needed sixty votes to pass, and got only 43.

Please tell me McConnell’s secret goal is to fail by Friday.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:13:38pm

re: #22 Big Beautiful Door

Correct. For example the Senate Parliamentarian ruled BCRA didn’t qualify for reconciliation, so it needed sixty votes to pass, and got only 43.

Is it possible all this shit is just theatre, so the GOP can tell the rabid base they tried and failed to repeal and replace because evil Democrats and traitors among the GOP stood in the way? IOW, McConnell and Ryan know their mission is doomed, and they’re just trying to save face.

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retired cynic  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:13:42pm

re: #22 Big Beautiful Door

Correct. For example the Senate Parliamentarian ruled BCRA didn’t qualify for reconciliation, so it needed sixty votes to pass, and got only 43.

I also heard, on NPR, from a former Senate Parliamentarian, that there was no law that McConnell would have to follow what the SP said. It was just tradition. And that the “rule” was broken once, in 1987. What would you bet on the Yertle breaking rules?

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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:13:44pm

re: #17 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

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darthstar  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:16:18pm
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darthstar  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:17:10pm

re: #24 wheat-dogg

Is it possible all this shit is just theatre, so the GOP can tell the rabid base they tried and failed to repeal and replace because evil Democrats and traitors among the GOP stood in the way? IOW, McConnell and Ryan know their mission is doomed, and they’re just trying to save face.

That’s been my hope all along…still, should that be the case, McCain’s still a fucking douchebag for helping them keep up the charade when he could have killed this shit with a ‘no’ vote.

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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:17:35pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:17:50pm

re: #24 wheat-dogg

Is it possible all this shit is just theatre, so the GOP can tell the rabid base they tried and failed to repeal and replace because evil Democrats and traitors among the GOP stood in the way? IOW, McConnell and Ryan know their mission is doomed, and they’re just trying to save face.

I think they sincerely want to pass something they can call repeal. I think the rational thing to do would be to make bipartisan fixes to the ACA, and claim victory because it was a GOP idea to being with and it took Republicans to get it right. But who knows what is actually going on in the Yertules head.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:20:08pm

re: #25 retired cynic

I also heard, on NPR, from a former Senate Parliamentarian, that there was no law that McConnell would have to follow what the SP said. It was just tradition. And that the “rule” was broken once, in 1987. What would you bet on the Yertle breaking rules?

The VP could overrule the SP. The problem is that once that Genie is out of the bottle, it effectively repeals the filibuster. And Senators do love their ability to block legislation.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:21:10pm

re: #29 teleskiguy

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Myron Falwell  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:21:47pm

re: #26 teleskiguy

“…and you answered:”


“And your wager was Texas with a dollar sign. Simply stunning.”
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retired cynic  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:22:57pm

re: #31 Big Beautiful Door

The VP could overrule the SP. The problem is that once that Genie is out of the bottle, it effectively repeals the filibuster. And Senators do love their ability to block legislation.

I hope so. It’s getting hard for me to get anything done with all my fingers and toes crossed. I mean, I’m on Medicare and supplements, and as long as I can keep up those payments I’m ok. But our country should not go down the tubes this way. Like that Mr. Chesnett, above. That’s awful. And I’m sure there are many more, and we just don’t hear about them.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:24:33pm
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dangerman  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:25:17pm

re: #33 Myron Falwell

“…and you answered:”

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“And your wager was Texas with a dollar sign. Simply stunning.”

Yup
Dollars, Texas
I’ve been there

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:25:48pm

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹

Maybe he’ll quit music and start bebuilding houses.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:26:25pm

re: #9 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Well now.

Look at whose name just came up as a person of interest in the Russian hacking investigation.

Two Notorious ‘Alt-Right’ Figures May Play Key Roles in Russia Investigation

Seeing the Rage Furby facing a stint at “Club Fed” would just warm my heart to no end.

See! Great news out of Washington today!

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wheat-dogg  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:30:31pm

re: #9 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Well now.

Look at whose name just came up as a person of interest in the Russian hacking investigation.

Two Notorious ‘Alt-Right’ Figures May Play Key Roles in Russia Investigation

Seeing the Rage Furby facing a stint at “Club Fed” would just warm my heart to no end.

Given Rage Furby’s propensity to brag about everything he does online, he’s probably dropped plenty of breadcrumbs for an investigation to follow.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:31:11pm

re: #37 jaunte

Maybe he’ll quit music and start bebuilding houses.

Nope. He cancelled his tour in the middle (screwing the roadies that signed up for the tour). Allegedly, he had deep conversations with a particular pastor, though that pastor told him to do the opposite (not cancel his tour).

Justin and [Pastor] Carl [Lentz] had were spotted having a casual chat Tuesday afternoon behind Mastro’s in Bev Hills. As one source put it, “he’s becoming the Tom Cruise of that church.”

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wheat-dogg  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:35:12pm

re: #40 Anymouse 🌹

Nope. He cancelled his tour in the middle (screwing the roadies that signed up for the tour). Allegedly, he had deep conversations with a particular pastor, though that pastor told him to do the opposite (not cancel his tour).

I have a student in China who would be crushed if Bieber quit making music. She worships the guy.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:35:41pm

re: #39 wheat-dogg

Given Rage Furby’s propensity to brag about everything he does online, he’s probably dropped plenty of breadcrumbs for an investigation to follow.

And the investigators won’t need to set up phoney “bounties.”

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stpaulbear  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:35:58pm

re: #40 Anymouse 🌹

Nope. He cancelled his tour in the middle (screwing the roadies that signed up for the tour). Allegedly, he had deep conversations with a particular pastor, though that pastor told him to do the opposite (not cancel his tour).

I bet the pastor is feeling like he killed the goose that laid the golden egg.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:38:55pm

re: #25 retired cynic

I also heard, on NPR, from a former Senate Parliamentarian, that there was no law that McConnell would have to follow what the SP said. It was just tradition. And that the “rule” was broken once, in 1987. What would you bet on the Yertle breaking rules?

Doesn’t Turtle Fucker McConnell need to have 51 votes (at least 50 plus Pence) for an elimination of the legislative filibuster, though?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:40:24pm

re: #43 stpaulbear

I bet the pastor is feeling like he killed the goose that laid the golden egg.

Nope. Pastor Pulpit Pimp is lusting for Justin’s tithin that 10% of royalties to the church. Just like Priscilla and Lisa Marie Presley tithe 10% of Elvis royalties to $¢ientology!

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Kragar  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:41:57pm

Johnson said he intends to testify in a public setting, adding he will turn any appearance before the committee into a “circus.”

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:42:29pm

re: #30 Big Beautiful Door

I think they sincerely want to pass something they can call repeal. I think the rational thing to do would be to make bipartisan fixes to the ACA, and claim victory because it was a GOP idea to being with and it took Republicans to get it right. But who knows what is actually going on in the Yertules head.

And so something FOR Americans? Republicans can’t do that. It’s against their code. They only are allowed to fuck things up.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:44:25pm

re: #46 Kragar

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That’s what HE thinks. When they finish with him He’ll be Floorpooper Redux!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:45:50pm

It will be National Korean War Veterans Armistice Day in Eastern Time in a few minutes.

Last year, President Obama issued a proclamation that had soaring words of hope for those who fought from many nations, as well as the shining pearl on the Pacific that South Korea is today.

obamawhitehouse.archives.gov

President Trump’s proclamation today is full of fear about North Korean ballistic missiles.

whitehouse.gov

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BeachDem  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:46:25pm

re: #15 wheat-dogg

I found that line about “everybody calls me Pickle” on an author’s website, and tweeted it.

Not saying it means the letter is fake, but nothing would surprise me now.

Pence has a cat named Pickle.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:46:33pm

re: #39 wheat-dogg

Given Rage Furby’s propensity to brag about everything he does online, he’s probably dropped plenty of breadcrumbs for an investigation to follow.

Is sure like to know who those assholes could possibly know.

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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2017 • 8:47:50pm
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Kragar  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:00:53pm

Never expected to hear this from Hatch. Good on him.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:01:40pm

The Mooch is going to get fired just because Trump gets annoyed by Colbert talking about The Mooch so much.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:02:27pm

Sad news. Long live Rocky the Flying Squirrel.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:02:46pm

re: #51 MsJ

Is sure like to know who those assholes could possibly know.

Let him spin lie after lie before that committee and get nailed for perjury…

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:02:56pm

Thanks to the lizard who posted Tom Price’s email address. I sent him a nasty note tonight accusing him of suffering the same impairment as another doctor - James Fallon — who was shocked to discover by reviewing an MRI of his brain that he was a psychopath. How else to explain Dr. Price’s lack of concern for the well-being of his fellow citizens?

Hopefully the skinny repeal will suffer the same fate in the Senate as the other proposed TrumpDontCare legislation.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:03:20pm

Getting really tired of Jeet’s glib chapo inspired disaffected bullshit.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:05:24pm
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wheat-dogg  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:07:14pm

re: #52 teleskiguy

Alpha male got shot down by his wife. Color me surprised.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:09:03pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:10:58pm

re: #44 Myron Falwell

Doesn’t Turtle Fucker McConnell need to have 51 votes (at least 50 plus Pence) for an elimination of the legislative filibuster, though?

Yes, but I think that Pence can do an end run around the filibuster by overruling the SP.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:11:17pm

re: #12 Amory Blaine

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Counterpoint:

“Weird Al” Yankovic - I Lost On Jeopardy

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CleverToad  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:15:52pm

re: #55 Myron Falwell

Sad news. Long live Rocky the Flying Squirrel.

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Oh damn. We’ve lost Witch Hazel, and so many more. *sniff*

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BeachDem  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:19:21pm

re: #56 Joe Bacon 🌹

Let him spin lie after lie before that committee and get nailed for perjury…

Then maybe his good friend, Alan Dershowitz can be his lawyer.

Ugh—I just nauseated myself thinking about it.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:20:04pm

re: #55 Myron Falwell

Sad news. Long live Rocky the Flying Squirrel.

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June missed the century mark by a couple of months (born September 18, 1917)


June Foray, ca. 1945
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Myron Falwell  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:20:52pm

re: #62 Big Beautiful Door

Yes, but I think that Pence can do an end run around the filibuster by overruling the SP.

Honestly I don’t know if McConnell can muster 50 votes as it is, and if he can’t, it’s a moot point.

This whole sorry exercise has been the ultimate testament to dysfunction, complete with McCain trotting into town for one last publicity stunt.

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Renaissance_Man  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:21:37pm

The stupid thing is, Obamacare isn’t even that good. This is, after all, the Heritage Foundation’s plan, and a plan that deserved the mockery it got when it was first floated. Only a deranged lobbyist could conceive of a plan to make everyone buy private health insurance and believe that this would somehow reduce the cost of healthcare. It’s madness. And yet here we are, defending it bitterly, because this particular madness stands between Republicans and the poor and elderly, whom the Republicans would much prefer to go away and die quietly once their money has been taken away and after they dutifully vote Republican.

Yes, I’m aware that realpolitik means that working with this flawed plan is better than nothing, and that the realities of America’s pathology mean that actual improvement and reform is a generational task. And I still support Obamacare on the grounds that saving lives is important and that it is good to get Americans used to the idea that healthcare should be a right and a privilege of living in a Western society, rather than a luxury that their owners dole out to the worthy. But it still feels stupid to be defending a plan that Republicans proposed in their delusion and would happily have supported had a black man not signed it. Yet I suppose that’s literally one of the least stupid things in American politics nowadays.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:26:44pm

Conservatives can’t seem to get off the idea of repealing the ACA and failing. They’ve been at this for what, the better part of a decade?

Maybe they’d have better luck defunding ACORN again. That way they can put a bill in front of Trump and declare a win.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:26:45pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:27:38pm

re: #14 No Depression

He won’t be very popular with the general population when they find out he’s a floorshitter.

I don’t think he is really a profile in courage; I’ll bet he would flip on anybody he could to avoid prison.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:29:27pm

re: #68 Renaissance_Man

The ACA would have been more effective if the Supreme Court hadn’t let States refuse the Medicaid expansion. Eventually, assuming the GOP doesn’t destroy us, we will get to a better designed plan. The journey of 1000 miles begins with a single step.

Let’s hope the parties collaborate now on improving the ACA, instead of the Republicans continuing their efforts to sabotage it.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:32:39pm

re: #71 Jebediah, RBG

I don’t think he is really a profile in courage; I’ll bet he would flip on anybody he could to avoid prison.

Paper tiger, with a new house and allegedly a baby to boot. I wonder if the show will be on CSPAN.

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retired cynic  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:34:28pm

re: #73 wheat-dogg

Paper tiger, with a new house and allegedly a baby to boot. I wonder if the show will be on CSPAN.

We have thought that the pig was hoist by his own petard any number of times, and he just keeps slipping away. I still hope, but I’m not sanguine.

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Kragar  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:36:37pm
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retired cynic  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:38:42pm

re: #75 Kragar

For months I have wondered: where on earth do you store all of these?

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Skip Intro  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:40:18pm

re: #61 The Vicious Babushka

In short “please keep buying my overpriced junk made in overseas sweatshops. My daddy didn’t really mean it. Believe me.”

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Myron Falwell  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:40:31pm

re: #71 Jebediah, RBG

I don’t think he is really a profile in courage; I’ll bet he would flip on anybody he could to avoid prison.

I’d trust Rage Furby’s word even less than Trump, if it means anything.

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Kragar  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:40:38pm

re: #76 retired cynic

For months I have wondered: where on earth do you store all of these?

Bookcases next to my desk for active projects, transport cases for completed armies.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:41:34pm

re: #79 Kragar

Bookcases next to my desk for active projects, transport cases for completed armies.

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That “Army Transport” seems a lot more compact than the ones the US Army uses. /s

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:44:49pm

Oh great, something else for the Wingnut Brigade to get spun up about.

voanews.com

More at Voice of America:

WASHINGTON/BUJUMBURA —

Instructors of the six Burundian teens who disappeared last week in Washington say the kids’ parents do not seem concerned about their disappearance, and likely knew the teens would not come back to Burundi.

The parents have not made any public statements about the students, who apparently ran away on July 18 while in the U.S. capital for an international robotics competition. Two of the students were reported Friday to have entered Canada, while the whereabouts of the other four are unclear.

The principal of Iteletique High School, which two of the missing students attended, says the teens gave their parents some advance warning about their plans.

“Talking with parents, they told us that once the kids arrived there, they [the kids] told them they may not come back,” Esperence Niyonzima told a reporter for VOA’s Central Africa Service in Bujumbura.

“It seems the parents are not worried, they were not worried for the kids’ unknown whereabouts,” she said.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:47:33pm

Kansas Gov. Brownback nominated as ambassador at large for religious freedom

President Donald Trump has formally nominated Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback to serve as the State Department’s ambassador at large for international religious freedom.

Brownback has served as Kansas governor since 2011. His name has been in the mix for the post for weeks, before the White House announced his pick.

If confirmed, Brownback will serve effectively as the head of the Office of International Religous Freedom within the State Department. That office is charged with promoting religous freedom as a key objective of U.S. foreign policy, according to the State Department’s website. The office’s mission is to monitor “religious persecution and discrimination worldwide, recommend and implement policies in respective regions or countries, and develop programs to promote religious freedom.”

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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:48:19pm

re: #79 Kragar

I have too many books. They’re strewn all about in my bedroom not to mention my garage. Your meticulous organization of figurines is astounding,

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:49:48pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:50:58pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

The Daily *fucking* Caller says this.

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Kragar  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:51:28pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

I have too many books. They’re strewn all about in my bedroom not to mention my garage. Your meticulous organization of figurines is astounding,

*looks around to the bookcase, my desk, and the assorted boxes of sprues and bits*

Yes, meticulous. We’ll go with that.

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Kragar  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:52:20pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

I have too many books. They’re strewn all about in my bedroom not to mention my garage. Your meticulous organization of figurines is astounding,

Meanwhile, my books are neatly stack in several piles around the bedroom

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:53:04pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:53:20pm

re: #86 Kragar

*looks around to the bookcase, my desk, and the assorted boxes of sprues and bits*

Yes, meticulous. We’ll go with that.

You have too much Karma for me to upding all your good shit.

I updinged this, because it’s *good shit.*

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:53:20pm

re: #82 Amory Blaine

Would Brownback have to give up the governorship of Kansas to take the post? Considering how universally loathed he is there now, that might open an opportunity to flip the seat to the Dems.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:55:16pm

Think he’s term limited and goes regardless.

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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:55:23pm

re: #87 Kragar

Meanwhile, my books are neatly stack in several piles around the bedroom

My books are stacked at the base of my bed (the important ones) and the rest are along walls and inside my walk-in closet.

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BeachDem  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:55:37pm

re: #73 wheat-dogg

Paper tiger, with a new house and allegedly a baby to boot. I wonder if the show will be on CSPAN.

Um, does he get to make the decision of whether the hearing is public or private? (I don’t know—I’m asking.) If anyone on the committee knows anything about the little asshole, I
would think they’d do all they could to deprive him of his chance to do his circus performance on teevee.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:56:32pm

re: #88 FormerDirtDart

Mooch doth protest too much. Lololol

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Kragar  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:57:33pm

I’m actually thinking about getting rid of one or two of my armies to make space.

Right now I’ve got:
Salamanders
Space Wolves
Cadians
Night Lords
Thousand Sons
Adeptus Mechanicus

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:58:12pm

re: #94 Myron Falwell

Mooch doth protest too much. Lololol

Someone had a similar response…

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:58:31pm

I think I may need to send a package of links to Sen. Warner’s office, to give them some background information on the Rage Furby so they’re well aware of who they’re dealing with.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:58:38pm

re: #93 BeachDem

Um, does he get to make the decision of whether the hearing is public or private? (I don’t know—I’m asking.) If anyone on the committee knows anything about the little asshole, I
would think they’d do all they could to deprive him of his chance to do his circus performance on teevee.

Well, in theory he could refuse to testify if the committee had simply invited him unless they acceded to his terms.

If he is being subpoenaed, he gets what they give him.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2017 • 9:59:57pm
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retired cynic  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:01:46pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

I think I may need to send a package of links to Sen. Warner’s office, to give them some background information on the Rage Furby so they’re well aware of who they’re dealing with.

I think it is your civic duty. I can see why Warner would not be able to believe, delivered in one swell foop like that, however. It seems unbelievable.

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retired cynic  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:09:47pm

re: #100 retired cynic

I should have put a (grin) after duty.

Edited because of general incoherence.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:15:11pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

I think I may need to send a package of links to Sen. Warner’s office, to give them some background information on the Rage Furby so they’re well aware of who they’re dealing with.

I HIGHLY recommend this.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:16:19pm

re: #102 Eclectic Cyborg

I HIGHLY recommend this.

And every other Democrat on the committee.

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BeachDem  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:21:33pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

I think I may need to send a package of links to Sen. Warner’s office, to give them some background information on the Rage Furby so they’re well aware of who they’re dealing with.

I’d cc Widen and Harris and King (oh my)

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retired cynic  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:23:06pm

re: #104 BeachDem

I’d cc Widen and Harris and King (oh my)

I’d pay a lot to see Kamala Harris work him over!

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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:26:31pm

re: #102 Eclectic Cyborg

I HIGHLY recommend this.

Super easy. LGF has probably the most fucked up shit about UpChuck in its archives. Chuck is a sitting duck.

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BeachDem  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:28:15pm

re: #105 retired cynic

I’d pay a lot to see Kamala Harris work him over!

Also, the Mustache of Righteousness, Angus King (thank you Charlie Pierce.)

However much I’d like to see it, I would rather they do it behind closed doors so the little maggot doesn’t get to puff himself up on teevee (I’m sure he’ll do interviews ad nauseum after the fact—which will be repulsive enough.)

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:30:34pm

Who was the most evil Nazi? That choice might be the most competitive in history, but this monster is certainly in the running:

Oskar Dirlewanger Oskar Dirlewanger (26 September 1895 - 7 June 1945)[1] was a German military officer who served as the founder and commander of the infamous Nazi SS penal unit “Dirlewanger” during World War II. His name is closely linked to some of the worst crimes of the war. He also fought in World War I, the post-World War I conflicts, and the Spanish Civil War. He died after World War II while in Allied custody, apparently beaten to death by his guards.

Dirlewanger is invariably described as an extremely cruel person by historians and researchers, including as “a psychopathic killer and child molester” by Steven Zaloga, “violently sadistic” by Richard Rhodes, “an expert in extermination and a devotee of sadism and necrophilia” by J. Bowyer Bell, and “a sadist and necrophiliac” by Bryan Mark Rigg. World War II historian Chris Bishop called him the “most evil man in the SS”. According to Timothy Snyder, “in all the theaters of the Second World War, few could compete in cruelty” with Dirlewanger.

Dirlewanger mostly led death squads in the field but he was briefly commandant of the labor camp at Stary Dzików. This led to an investigation for abuse, brutality, and other offenses and his removal back to the front. Yes, he was court martialed for abuse and brutality. By the Waffen SS. Let that sink in. He was later involved in the suppression of the Warsaw uprising, where he oversaw an orgy of rape and sadistic murder on an unheard of scale.

At the end of war he was captured by the French, who thoughtfully left him in the custody of Polish guards. He was soon dead. His cellmate, a Luftwaffe officer, said the guards beat him to death. Some think the Luftwaffe guy did it. The French called it “natural causes.” There were many rumors that he had escaped, so many that the Federal German government dug up his carcass in 1960 and had him positively identified by forensic dentists.

(I posted this because, despite a lifelong interest in World War II, I had never heard of this devil until today.)

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Kragar  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:38:06pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:38:52pm

re: #108 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I was just reading about him yesterday on Wikipedia. (If you follow links there, it can be like TV Tropes except for actual knowledge.)

Well, I’m out for the night. I have yet another coliform water sample to take to the lab in the morning. (I wish our village truck was more reliable than a few blocks - I’m putting a lot of miles on my private car.)

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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:43:13pm
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Kragar  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:51:03pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 26, 2017 • 10:51:21pm
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Kragar  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:02:35pm

re: #113 goddamnedfrank

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:04:46pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:05:56pm

re: #113 goddamnedfrank

re: #114 Kragar

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:12:24pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:29:48pm

The article is way more damning than the short excerpt.
Very long, I might be just 1/4 through it.

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Apocalypse  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:35:15pm

re: #58 goddamnedfrank

I gave your Tweet a like; It is not hilarious because it affects others (but not him).

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Lupin  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:36:26pm

In an earlier thread yesterday, I called the US a “sewer” in the context of boycotting travel to that destination, and I wish to explain that comment, prefacing it with the statement that I, too, am an American citizen, who’s lived and worked in the US for 26 years.

My analysis is that, right now, about 1/3rd of the US population is basically Nazis or Nazi-collaborators, about 1/3rd doesn’t give a f*ck about what’s happening, and about 1/3rd are good people. This is a rough approximation, but, I feel, not an incorrect one.

While recognizing the existence of that last 1/3rd, praising and supporting their effort, I still believe that it is not wrong to characterize the US as Trump’s America, in the same breath as I once did with Franco’s Spain or Pinochet’s Chile, or historically others have done when referring to Hitler’s Germany or Vichy France.

There was a fair amount of debate in France when, during the campaign and more recently, President Macron blamed and apologized on behalf of France, first for the crimes committed during the Algerian War, and recently for the infamous Jewish deportation of the Vel d’Hiv.

The Nazi Front National, in particular, took umbrage, objecting that this were not the actions of the “real” France, which during WWII was embodied by De Gaulle’s “Free France” in England. No such argument can be made about the Algerian War, so their argument there relied mostly on all the “good Frenchmen” who only did their patriotic duty, etc.

(Like “hero” McCain who participated in Operation Rolling Thunder in Viet-Nam which killed nearly 100,000 civilians. My dad was in the French Military during the Algerian War and AFAIK, being part of the Medical Corps, he never committed any war crimes, but that wasn’t a period of his service he was particularly proud of, and I never, even once, heard him or anyone else refer to him as a hero. But i digress…)

All the FN’s arguments are true, and there were indeed a lot of good French men and women who not only objected to, but fought against these dark moments of French history, and some paid it with their lives — but even then, I must agree with Macron that the collective responsibility of the nation as a single, legally constituted entity remains, and it was indeed “France” (in an almost Gaullist sense) who was/is responsible.

So we’re back to short-hands such as Vichy France, Franco’s Spain, etc., — and de facto, Trump’s America, which, despite the Resistance and a great number of very good Americans (among which I count myself, and others here), is a sewer.

I will not set foot on US soil until that monster has been removed from power and our country cleaned up and returned to the values it holds dear.

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Apocalypse  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:43:34pm

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹

Either they are ahead to the future (a “noughties”* revival two decades early) or centuries behind.

As for gaining a win without actually doing anything, How about repealing the Corn Laws?

*Noughties for those who don’t know is the period between 2000 and 2010.

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Kragar  Jul 26, 2017 • 11:59:21pm
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Apocalypse  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:02:40am

re: #75 Kragar

Your Citadel/Games-workshop miniatures will always get an Up-ding from me.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:04:58am

re: #120 Lupin

I will not set foot on US soil until that monster has been removed from power and our country cleaned up and returned to the values it holds dear.

You’re in for a long fuckin’ wait.

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Lupin  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:13:13am

re: #124 teleskiguy

You’re in for a long fuckin’ wait.

That’s OK too.

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Kragar  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:13:48am

re: #123 Apocalypse

Your Citadel/Games-workshop miniatures will always get an Up-ding from me.

Going back and doing a bunch of touchup work right now. The new edition just came out and I’ve got a tournament coming up in October

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:51:34am

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹

Conservatives can’t seem to get off the idea of repealing the ACA and failing. They’ve been at this for what, the better part of a decade?

Maybe they’d have better luck defunding ACORN again. That way they can put a bill in front of Trump and declare a win.

Seventeen years, according to their President (and some news sites)…

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:00:53am
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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:01:16am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:04:21am

re: #129 teleskiguy

as long as they still hate the same minorities…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:15:32am

re: #97 Charles Johnson

I think I may need to send a package of links to Sen. Warner’s office, to give them some background information on the Rage Furby so they’re well aware of who they’re dealing with.

Please do - it’s important that Senator Warner and others on the committee know who might be appearing in front of them.

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:32:28am

re: #109 Kragar

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Hey Log Cabin folks, how’s selling out your souls for lower taxes looking right about now?

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:38:56am

Violent foreign thug runs over innocent American!

Justin Bieber hits paparazzo with car, police say

Will he be deported before he causes any more mayhem?
Oh.
He’s white.

Never mind.

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:46:39am

Speaking of the Log Cabin Republicans, chose to check to see their reactions to today’s events. They’re totally mum on Jefferson Beauregard’s announcement and their only comment on Trump’s sudden ban is that it was “a surprise” to them.

But they still believe the bullshit the Mooch is telling them about how Trump was the “first pro-gay president to take office.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:51:40am

re: #134 Targetpractice

Speaking of the Log Cabin Republicans, chose to check to see their reactions to today’s events. They’re totally mum on Jefferson Beauregard’s announcement and their only comment on Trump’s sudden ban is that it was “a surprise” to them.

But they still believe the bullshit the Mooch is telling them about how Trump was the “first pro-gay president to take office.”

If you define “pro-gay” as synonymous with “anti-Islam”, then it fits…

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Weaselone  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:35:02am

re: #125 Lupin

That’s OK too.

So when are you leaving the EU because it includes Poland’s Duda, Orban’s Hungary and probably a higher % of its population is antisemetic and where will you go?

Oh and I forgot to mention, probably at least in part responsible for Turkey going full autocrat because the EU wouldn’t give it a path to entry due to their need to uphold “Western Values”, aka white, christian supremacy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:10:18am

re: #136 Weaselone

So when are you leaving the EU because it includes Poland’s Duda, Orban’s Hungary and probably a higher % of its population is antisemetic and where will you go?

Oh and I forgot to mention, probably at least in part responsible for Turkey going full autocrat because the EU wouldn’t give it a path to entry due to their need to uphold “Western Values”, aka white, christian supremacy.

“Western Values” also include representative democracy, which has been sorely lacking lately in Turkey.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:12:09am
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Weaselone  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:21:54am

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Western Values” also include representative democracy, which has been sorely lacking lately in Turkey.

1. Turkey is still technically a representative Republic.
2. The point I was making was does Turkey even take this path if the EU was more receptive to potential membership?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:26:16am

re: #139 Weaselone

1. Turkey is still technically a representative Republic.
2. The point I was making was does Turkey even take this path if the EU was more receptive to potential membership?

Doubtful - Erodgan was long been relatively lukewarm to EU membership. That was more of a project of former Foreign Minister Davatoglu and former President Abudllah Gul; those two were the biggest proponents of Turkey’s EU membership. Erdogan was always more “Meh” about it. As things stand right now, I’d say Erdogan’s most likely against it as EU membership would serve as an impediment to his delusions of grandeur.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:28:02am

re: #139 Weaselone

1. Turkey is still technically a representative Republic.
2. The point I was making was does Turkey even take this path if the EU was more receptive to potential membership?

1. North Korea is still technically a Democratic People’s Republic…

2. There is a stick-and-carrot relationship going on here, but do not look on Europe’s rejection of Turkey as something that drove them to become more authoritarian. Erdogan seems more interested in consolidating power in Turkey than in moving toward membership in the EU.

…and really, regardless of the religious differences, and despite the fact that Turkey was long a secular state, there are enormous social differences between Turkey and the EU: the people and culture in Istanbul and Ankara are fairly modern by European standards, but the rural areas are still very backward.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:35:38am

he’s awake and blathering:

imma gonna go back to bed…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:37:50am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:38:29am

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

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thread starts here:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:39:37am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:42:09am

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

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LOL I read that at first as “…Attorney General Jeff Sessions flees to El Salvador…..” and thought to myself that shit must be getting really bad .

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:43:26am

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

he’s awake and blathering:

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imma gonna go back to bed…

Fox and Friends the most powerful show in America? Hahaha

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:44:56am

re: #147 HappyWarrior

Fox and Friends the most powerful show in America? Hahaha

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:46:02am

re: #114 Kragar

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ignorance of the law is no excuse, for looking like a dickhead.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:46:14am

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

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True point I guess. That’s scary honestly. He gets his news and opinions not from advisers but F&F.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:46:18am

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

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All he’s hoping to do with that move is to say later is “I applied sanctions and they worked, so we don’t need them any more.”

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Dave In Austin  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:52:02am
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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:54:24am

re: #82 Amory Blaine

Kansas Gov. Brownback nominated as ambassador at large for religious freedom

“…Religious freedom” Specifically Right wing Christian Supremacism. There, fixed that for you.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:56:35am

re: #147 HappyWarrior

Fox and Friends the most powerful show in America? Hahaha

Well, they certainly did help elect the current President…

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:56:42am

re: #109 Kragar

This looks like the perfect time for a Jesus’ “Did I stutter?” picture. Also, fuck Sessions and all those who didn’t vote for Clinton: I have a gay son. Why do we have to spell out every freakin’ rule with these Christians? Why isn’t “Love thy neighbor” enough?

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Lupin  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:00:57am

re: #136 Weaselone

So when are you leaving the EU because it includes Poland’s Duda, Orban’s Hungary and probably a higher % of its population is antisemetic and where will you go?

Oh and I forgot to mention, probably at least in part responsible for Turkey going full autocrat because the EU wouldn’t give it a path to entry due to their need to uphold “Western Values”, aka white, christian supremacy.

I believe the core EU countries would likely kick out Poland or Hungary before they turned into Nazi-type countries; in fact the EU’s threads to Poland seem to be producing results. You don’t seem to have a very good grasp on EU in general, and France in particular.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:05:19am

re: #155 Belafon

This looks like the perfect time for a Jesus’ “Did I stutter?” picture. Also, fuck Sessions and all those who didn’t vote for Clinton: I have a gay son. Why do we have to spell out every freakin’ rule with these Christians? Why isn’t “Love thy neighbor” enough?

They really think their discomfort with gay people should mean more then your son having civil rights. It’s an infuriating 180 from the Obama administration.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:07:28am

June Foray passed away. 99 years old. Now it’s up to Bullwinkle alone to stop Boris and Nastasha.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:09:25am

re: #156 Lupin

I believe the core EU countries would likely kick out Poland or Hungary before they turned into Nazi-type countries; in fact the EU’s threads to Poland seem to be producing results. You don’t seem to have a very good grasp on EU in general, and France in particular.

If the US electoral system was like France’s, then we would have seen Trump, like Marie Le Pen, winning a place in the runoff election but then coming in second in the final vote…

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:13:07am

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The talk now is that Trump’s going to try a recess appointment, but Schumer’s already said that the DNC will pull the very same trick that the GOP did during the Obama years to keep Congress in session over the month of August. What’s the over/under on how long before the wingnuts scream bloody murder?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:14:40am

re: #160 Targetpractice

The talk now is that Trump’s going to try a recess appointment, but Schumer’s already said that the DNC will pull the very same trick that the GOP did during the Obama years to keep Congress in session over the month of August. What’s the over/under on how long before the wingnuts scream bloody murder?

Incoming shrieks of UNCONSTITUTIONAL!! incoming…….

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Weaselone  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:21:28am

re: #141 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The whole Turkish EU issue as you noted predates Erdogan and is fairly complicated. I’m just going to point out that as it regards Turks and integration in Europe, there are other examples where the whole “different cultures” argument seems to be exposed as a lie.

I’m going to pick on Germany, because they have their own Turkish integration problem that starts off immediately following WWII with their guest workers programs. Fast forward to the 90s and you have multiple generations of the descendants of these workers who were born in Germany, spoke German, went to German schools, listened to American music and were to a large extend German culturally, but weren’t actually allowed to become German citizens. At the same time you had the German government providing a right of return and citizenship to Germans born in eastern Europe under communism, people who in many cases did not speak German, were not born in Germany, had no experience with democratic government and market economies and were culturally very much eastern European. The different in how these Germans and the Turks were treated was not the result of “cultural” differences, it was flat up prejudice.

Or we could move on to France and their endless battle to keep Muslim women from wearing traditional clothing and covering up at the beach among other things.

Now, me when I see that the two most powerful EU members have these huge longstanding problems with Turks and Muslims based largely on prejudice, I’m not inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt that they’re operating fully above the board when they use “cultural differences” for decades as a reason not to move at least hesitatingly toward EU membership for Turkey while at the same time they begin admitting nations like Poland and Hungary that until recently were Soviet satellite states with communist economies and authoritarian governments and who actually have less experience with representative democracy and respect for constitutional and institutional norms than Turkey did at the time.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:31:42am

When that morning sugar-rush wears off

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:32:49am

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

17. Scaramucci just now: “He may decide to veto the sanction and be tougher on the Russians than Congress.

— Yashar Ali

Well today is getting off to a great start, I see.

/

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:34:34am

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

he’s awake and blathering:

imma gonna go back to bed…

Yeah, don’t let the Tea Party people down, GOP Senators.

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:36:02am

re: #162 Weaselone

Germany has since changed its laws so that anyone born in Germany to legal resident parents is automatically German.

They have not always been models of acceptance and tolerance, but I have found that they are moving in the right direction.

Nor will they extend their definition of “tolerance” to any culture that treats women as second-class citizens.

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Weaselone  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:45:02am

re: #156 Lupin

I believe the core EU countries would likely kick out Poland or Hungary before they turned into Nazi-type countries; in fact the EU’s threads to Poland seem to be producing results. You don’t seem to have a very good grasp on EU in general, and France in particular.

There’s no mechanism for kicking a member state out of the EU. With a 2/3 vote in Parliament they can use Article 7 to suspend voting privileges for a member state, but that’s a particularly high bar especially given that the members from Poland and Hungary can almost certainly be counted to vote no if either of them is targeted.

I’m not seeing any good results from the EUs threats. I’m seeing some good results from a bunch of pissed off Polish citizens taking to the streets.

My opinion is that you’re blinded to the prejudices that exist within the EU and France in particular in much the same way a person living in a lily white city in the Midwest is blinded to the racism and prejudice in the US.

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Weaselone  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:54:35am

re: #166 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germany has since changed its laws so that anyone born in Germany to legal resident parents is automatically German.

They have not always been models of acceptance and tolerance, but I have found that they are moving in the right direction.

Nor will they extend their definition of “tolerance” to any culture that treats women as second-class citizens.

Yes, and it was definitely a good step forward and I agree that Germany is moving in the right direction, but the underlying prejudice is still there. I’d like to think that if it were put up to a vote, birthright citizenship in the US would still pass, but I’m beginning to doubt it.

I agree regarding the tolerance of cultures that treat women as second-class citizens. I wasn’t aware that Turkey treated women as such. When I checked, they even had more liberal abortion laws than some EU countries like Poland and Ireland, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that there weren’t other issues.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:54:38am

re: #27 darthstar

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Why is he talking about a woman’s hair and make up when she is in a professional position? Would he do the same with male colleagues? This is sexism on steroids. Why is no one in the GOP calling him out for this? And keep in mind that he is Trump’s Communications Advisor.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:01:02am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. The GOP noise machine is set to ruptured eardrum (condition not covered under Trumpcare), and Ryan is on the march with his nonsense about how he’s doing the people’s business all while the only people he seems to care about are millionaires like Trump.

McConnell in the Senate continues pushing for a version of Trumpcare that will strip health coverage from tens of millions of Americans. The latest iteration of this is the “skinny” plan, which is just as destructive as all the rest, except the GOP thinks that delaying the effects in some way somehow obscures the fact that it ultimately separates the same number of people from their coverage.

The GOP isn’t above busting the rules, ignoring tradition, and screwing millions of Americans to push for tax cuts for millionaires like Trump. Why? They can’t stand the legacy of a black guy providing health coverage to millions of Americans that weren’t able to get coverage before.

And while that shit show is ongoing, Trump’s busy screwing over the LGBT community that never had any reason to trust Trump in the first place. Trump’s position on transgendered people in service is pandering to the Bible Thumpers while screwing over patriotic LGBT who are serving in our nation’s armed forces.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:01:50am

re: #169 Patricia Kayden

Why is he talking about a woman’s hair and make up when she is in a professional position? Would he do the same with male colleagues? This is sexism on steroids. Why is no one in the GOP calling him out for this? And keep in mind that he is Trump’s Communications Advisor.

Moochy’s own hair looks like he sprayed it with Krylon Enamel, and whoever does his makeup should be arrested.

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:07:40am

re: #170 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. The GOP noise machine is set to ruptured eardrum (condition not covered under Trumpcare), and Ryan is on the march with his nonsense about how he’s doing the people’s business all while the only people he seems to care about are millionaires like Trump.

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And while that shit show is ongoing, Trump’s busy screwing over the LGBT community that never had any reason to trust Trump in the first place. Trump’s position on transgendered people in service is pandering to the Bible Thumpers while screwing over patriotic LGBT who are serving in our nation’s armed forces.

As was noted above, the whole exercise in the Senate the past couple days has been about getting “something” passed so that the GOP can move on to a conference committee where the most conservative members of both houses will craft a bill that satisfies them while giving the “moderates” cover by saying they never voted for the final bill.

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:07:57am

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sessions is getting out of Washington - for a few days.

This is really odd, considering I just heard the news that Trump is coming to Brentwood, LI (just a few miles from here) tomorrow to gloat about putting the hurt on MS-13.

When the original announcement was made a few months ago, Sessions made the appearance by himself. Looks like Trump is going to show up to take credit.

Oh. Maybe not that odd, after all.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:08:04am

A 44% tax?

That’s pretty much what Clinton was proposing and the GOP were slamming her for a tax hike.

Mind you that the marginal rate isn’t the same as the effective rate, so the GOP would likely screw around so that even though there’s a higher rate, they’d end up paying far less than someone in a lower tax bracket because their income is treated different (like say cutting capital gains tax rate significantly, which is where many millionaires see much of their income generated).

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:12:54am

re: #152 Dave In Austin

Again

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That’s sort of an inapt comparison.

Klinger was a straight man who dressed in drag in hopes of getting out of the service.

A couple of trans friends pointed out that while it’s nice to have the support, the Klinger photo misses the mark.

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:13:31am

It’s rather sad that Ryan and McConnell have both found themselves reduced to providing cover to the “moderates” in their caucuses in the same fashion: “Just lie back and think of tax cuts.” Not crafting popular bills, not spurning their wingnut backbenchers, but just promising that they’ll still respect them in the morning if they’ll whore themselves out this one time.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:14:05am

re: #172 Targetpractice

As was noted above, the whole exercise in the Senate the past couple days has been about getting “something” passed so that the GOP can move on to a conference committee where the most conservative members of both houses will craft a bill that satisfies them while giving the “moderates” cover by saying they never voted for the final bill.

Except that for it to get to Trump’s desk they will have to vote for it. So we’ll see.

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jeffreyw  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:17:16am

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Good morning!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:18:03am

re: #46 Kragar

Johnson said he intends to testify in a public setting, adding he will turn any appearance before the committee into a “circus.”

So, what can a contempt of congress charge get you in the way of punishment? Stockade on the mall would be a great idea. I’d even go downtown and put out baskets of rotten vegetables to toss at him.

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Weaselone  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:21:19am

re: #174 lawhawk

I don’t think this is likely to happen, but it does sort of set things up for Trump/Bannon to have their cake and eat to. When “Tax Deform” passes, they’ll be able to claim that they wanted raise taxes on people like Trump, but Congress wouldn’t go for it and they ultimately signed it anyway only because of all the other tremendous stuff in the bill, believe me it’s fantastic.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:22:38am

Not germane to the general discussion per se, but I came across this while poking around the internet; a bizarre cult in Lambeth, South London, UK.

Here’s a fascinating documentary on the subject:

The Cult of JACKIE - ‘Jehovah Allah Christ Krishna Immortal Easwaran’ (2017)

And here’s the Wiki entry: en.wikipedia.org

Truly outlandish and freaky story. I’ve always been fascinated by cults - one of the most memorable events from my childhood that made a profound impression on me was the Jonestown Massacre in Guyana.

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Pineapple Pizzagate  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:24:15am

re: #141 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

….the people and culture in Istanbul and Ankara are fairly modern by European standards, but the rural areas are still very backward.

Something about that seems oddly familiar….

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:25:50am

re: #170 lawhawk

Through all the noise & distractions, we’re addressing the problems people face in their everyday lives. That’s what we’re focusing on.

— Paul Ryan

Heh, “noise and distractions”.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:26:46am

re: #182 Pineapple Pizzagate

Something about that seems oddly familiar….

It’s universal, sadly.

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Lupin  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:30:41am

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If the US electoral system was like France’s, then we would have seen Trump, like Marie Le Pen, winning a place in the runoff election but then coming in second in the final vote…

Not necessarily. if the system was like France, there would have been four leading candidates in the first round: Trump, Hillary, for sure, Bernie almost certainly, and — Ted Cruz? Kasich? That’s harder to speculate. Only the top two would have been at the second round, and I’m not 100% convinced that this four-way split would have ineluctable led to a Trump/Hillary match.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:33:06am
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darthstar  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:34:10am
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A Mom Anon  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:34:29am

re: #155 Belafon

It has to be spelled out to them because, while they claim to be Christian, they are not. I’d lay money on bets that very few of them have read a Bible. They use religion to mask and cover for their own shitty, angry and stupid assholishness.They listen to leaders with no belief system outside of enriching themselves and inflicting pain on others. I’m a firm believer that this level of anger is every bit as addictive as any other substance. And being this way isn’t just limited to their politics and internet interactions either. They may be chickshit (and often chickenhawks) but that doesn’t mean they aren’t abusive and nasty to those closest to them.

I’m not sure if this shit is worse now or we’re just able to see it clearer because of social media and internet access. I do think some of this contagion could be contained if people actually had to face and see who they’re hurting, but without extensive mental health intervention, I think many of these people are lost forever. The rest of us are just collateral damage. And they DO NOT CARE who they hurt. It only matters when the shit splashes back on them directly.

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:34:52am

re: #186 FormerDirtDart

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It’s another example of the White House’s attitude that the public has absolutely no right to know who it is that is governing this nation. That we’re just supposed to take them at their word that they’re trustworthy and honest.

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Weaselone  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:35:28am

re: #185 Lupin

If our system were like France’s it’s almost impossible to predict what the election would have looked like as we’d have multiple political parties. For all we know in that system Trump, Hillary, Ted and Bernie wouldn’t even be on the radar.

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plansbandc  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:36:48am

re: #155 Belafon

This looks like the perfect time for a Jesus’ “Did I stutter?” picture. Also, fuck Sessions and all those who didn’t vote for Clinton: I have a gay son. Why do we have to spell out every freakin’ rule with these Christians? Why isn’t “Love thy neighbor” enough?

They conveniently forgot about that particular commandment. Much more freedom to treat people like shit that way.

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Lupin  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:36:58am

re: #167 Weaselone

My opinion is that you’re blinded to the prejudices that exist within the EU and France in particular in much the same way a person living in a lily white city in the Midwest is blinded to the racism and prejudice in the US.

And my opinion is that you don’t know very much about the situation here and are regurgitating what you’ve read in a well-meaning but hopelessly mired in generalities American newspaper.

In any event, as always, your original argument was of the strawman-type, based on future hypothetical what-ifs (in effect, “what if the EU became as bad as the US”) while mine was based on some very harsh realities that are impacting the entire planet right now.

Besides, I’m hardly the only who’s made the decision to boycott travel to the US.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:40:45am

re: #188 A Mom Anon

It has to be spelled out to them because, while they claim to be Christian, they are not. I’d lay money on bets that very few of them have read a Bible. They use religion to mask and cover for their own shitty, angry and stupid assholishness.They listen to leaders with no belief system outside of enriching themselves and inflicting pain on others. I’m a firm believer that this level of anger is every bit as addictive as any other substance. And being this way isn’t just limited to their politics and internet interactions either. They may be chickshit (and often chickenhawks) but that doesn’t mean they aren’t abusive and nasty to those closest to them.

I’m not sure if this shit is worse now or we’re just able to see it clearer because of social media and internet access. I do think some of this contagion could be contained if people actually had to face and see who they’re hurting, but without extensive mental health intervention, I think many of these people are lost forever. The rest of us are just collateral damage. And they DO NOT CARE who they hurt. It only matters when the shit splashes back on them directly.

We’re gonna need something like a cross between South Africa’s Truth and Reconciliation Commission and a nation-wide cult deprogramming effort.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:42:04am
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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:44:17am

re: #194 FormerDirtDart

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All those “Trump cares about the working class!” stories did not age well, did they?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:46:51am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:47:33am

re: #188 A Mom Anon

It has to be spelled out to them because, while they claim to be Christian, they are not. I’d lay money on bets that very few of them have read a Bible. They use religion to mask and cover for their own shitty, angry and stupid assholishness.They listen to leaders with no belief system outside of enriching themselves and inflicting pain on others. I’m a firm believer that this level of anger is every bit as addictive as any other substance. And being this way isn’t just limited to their politics and internet interactions either. They may be chickshit (and often chickenhawks) but that doesn’t mean they aren’t abusive and nasty to those closest to them.

I’m not sure if this shit is worse now or we’re just able to see it clearer because of social media and internet access. I do think some of this contagion could be contained if people actually had to face and see who they’re hurting, but without extensive mental health intervention, I think many of these people are lost forever. The rest of us are just collateral damage. And they DO NOT CARE who they hurt. It only matters when the shit splashes back on them directly.

Mom, if you could hear a chunk of the callers my coworkers and I deal with daily it would make your jaw drop. Especially those on Supplemental Security Disability who are hard core Trumpettes screaming about the colored people goofing off on welfare. Oh, and they are still waiting for Tweetler to kick them colored people, gays and Mexicans off of Social Security because ‘Murka is a KKKristian KKKountry…

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:48:32am

Wow, they’ve rolled in the steam shovels to move the bullshit this morning, haven’t they?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:49:10am

re: #196 FormerDirtDart

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Hmmm now I wonder what all them Religious Right Pulpit Pimps have to say about that? Oh, why bother to ask. The Gawd all of those crooks worship is Ayn Rand!

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:49:17am

re: #196 FormerDirtDart

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Well look at it this way, KAC: When this administration bombs, you’ve got a bright future ahead of you as a propagandist in the North Korean gov’t.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:49:57am

re: #194 FormerDirtDart

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Upstate New Yorkers are so stupid they think they should secede from New York State because they hate the City that much.

(Don’t live in New York, but I had an former upstater coworker that actually said they wish upstate would secede.)

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I cannot.  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:52:45am

re: #196 FormerDirtDart

Here’s how I read that quote:

“I hope it doesn’t disincentivize Anthony (because I can’t stab him in the back if he quits first)”

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A Mom Anon  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:55:29am

re: #193 Dr Lizardo

The fucked up part is that there doesn’t seem to be the will here to do this. Hell, we have people ALL OVER this country that idolize the motherfuckingconfederacy and deny fucking slavery is a bad thing. GAH. I do not know what it will take, but I’m afraid it’s going to involve pretty much total destruction of every fucking thing. They’re doing so much at every level of government to do the wrong thing on purpose. From undoing the Endangered Species Act, the Clean Water Act, undermining every single government agency, the dog whistle/air raid sirens winking and nodding at violence toward every perceived other, I mean where the fuck does this stop?

(Sorry, I’m having a bad year. Just when things seem to be on the upturn, some other stupid shit happens. The Husband and I are supposed to go on vacation next week, and now because my husband has neglected to go to the doctor regularly, his diabetes meds cannot be refilled til he sees the doctor again, and the doctor cannot see him till 10 days after we get back. He’s out of medication. The doctor will not even give him enough to get through til then. So, I have a feeling I will be spending my vacation in a hospital either in Atlanta, Denver or somewhere between. I am totally losing my happy, clappy liberalness right now.)

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:56:31am

re: #200 Targetpractice

Well look at it this way, KAC: When this administration bombs, you’ve got a bright future ahead of you as a propagandist in the North Korean gov’t.

Pssh, Conway’s a straight-up amateur compared to Ri Chun-hee:

Over-Enthusiastic North Korea TV Anchor Announces Rocket Launch

Now that’s the A-game right there.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:00:09am

Shocked, shocked I say…
DeVos’ Dept of Ed not fulfilling legal mandate.

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fern01  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:03:00am

Sessions getting out of DC and Tillerson is missing in action. Such a close knit administration running the US government

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:03:02am

re: #188 A Mom Anon

It has to be spelled out to them because, while they claim to be Christian, they are not. [snip]

Yes. All this talk about “putting Christ back in Christmas”, I think they really should push more for “putting Christ back in Christian”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:06:42am

re: #168 Weaselone

Yes, and it was definitely a good step forward and I agree that Germany is moving in the right direction, but the underlying prejudice is still there. I’d like to think that if it were put up to a vote, birthright citizenship in the US would still pass, but I’m beginning to doubt it.

I agree regarding the tolerance of cultures that treat women as second-class citizens. I wasn’t aware that Turkey treated women as such. When I checked, they even had more liberal abortion laws than some EU countries like Poland and Ireland, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that there weren’t other issues.

I am talking more about the social attitudes among the rural population there.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:07:35am

re: #206 fern01

Sessions getting out of DC and Tillerson is missing in action. Such a close knit administration running the US government

They run the government like some kind of part-time business.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:09:15am

re: #196 FormerDirtDart

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“If you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about”, wasn’t that the refrain repeated to those of us that bitched about the Patriot Act ohhh so many years ago? I mean, I was a fucking “terrorist sympathizer”, “wanted the terrorists to win”, etc for voicing my view that this was a HUGE overreach into my rights.

Then the black man came along and it all of a sudden became fashionable, patriotic even, to bitch about the overreach and blame it on him.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:11:07am

Lindsey Graham just interviewed on CNN: he’s livid about Sessions and expressed some of the strongest anti-Russian statements yet after Browder testimony.

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fern01  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:12:54am

re: #211 Barefoot Grin

Lindsey Graham just interviewed on CNN: he’s livid about Sessions and expressed some of the strongest anti-Russian statements yet after Browder testimony.

Shame he isn’t livid about taking health care away from 20-40 million. Only time they get upset is when one of their own is threatened - and not always then.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:16:31am

re: #168 Weaselone

Yes, and it was definitely a good step forward and I agree that Germany is moving in the right direction, but the underlying prejudice is still there. I’d like to think that if it were put up to a vote, birthright citizenship in the US would still pass, but I’m beginning to doubt it.

German birthright citizenship is not automatic: it only applies to children of legal resident immigrants who have been there for more than three years, but can be obtained retroactively after parents have met the minimum stay requirement.

That was the case with my daughter, form 1998, her younger siblings (born after 2000) were German at birth.

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:16:58am

re: #211 Barefoot Grin

Lindsey Graham just interviewed on CNN: he’s livid about Sessions and expressed some of the strongest anti-Russian statements yet after Browder testimony.

Not so livid, I’m sure, that he’d support the DNC in preventing Comrade Combover from abusing his recess appointment to replace Sessions.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:18:46am

re: #185 Lupin

Not necessarily. if the system was like France, there would have been four leading candidates in the first round: Trump, Hillary, for sure, Bernie almost certainly, and — Ted Cruz? Kasich? That’s harder to speculate. Only the top two would have been at the second round, and I’m not 100% convinced that this four-way split would have ineluctable led to a Trump/Hillary match.

I believe that it would have come to Trump vs Hillary, and in a 2-way popular race, Hillary would have come out several million (legal) votes ahead…

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:21:02am

re: #209 wheat-dogg

They run the government like some kind of part-time business.

It’s called “bankers’ hours” for a reason.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:21:03am

re: #207 Eventual Carrion

Yes. All this talk about “putting Christ back in Christmas”, I think they really should push more for “putting Christ back in Christian”.

Put Oestra back in Easter!!!

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A Mom Anon  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:23:17am

BBL. Chores and distractions await me. Be Excellent to One Another. Damn It.

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:24:00am

Remember when the media was fawning over this guy just a few days ago:

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:24:21am

re: #203 A Mom Anon

(Sorry, I’m having a bad year. Just when things seem to be on the upturn, some other stupid shit happens. The Husband and I are supposed to go on vacation next week, and now because my husband has neglected to go to the doctor regularly, his diabetes meds cannot be refilled til he sees the doctor again, and the doctor cannot see him till 10 days after we get back. He’s out of medication. The doctor will not even give him enough to get through til then. So, I have a feeling I will be spending my vacation in a hospital either in Atlanta, Denver or somewhere between. I am totally losing my happy, clappy liberalness right now.)

Any chance he could go to an urgent care clinic and get a prescription for a week or two?

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Birth Control Works  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:26:32am

re: #83 teleskiguy

I have too many books. They’re strewn all about in my bedroom not to mention my garage. Your meticulous organization of figurines is astounding,

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS TOO MANY BOOKS!!!

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:28:02am

re: #211 Barefoot Grin

Lindsey Graham just interviewed on CNN: he’s livid about Sessions and expressed some of the strongest anti-Russian statements yet after Browder testimony.

Ah. Senator Kabuki weighing in. “My concern. Let me show it to you. Oops..Must go, I have citizens to screw. Ta ta.”

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wheat-dogg  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:30:38am

re: #221 Birth Control Works

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS TOO MANY BOOKS!!!

Until you move to a new house …

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:30:46am

Can the Democrats do the same thing to Trump that the GOP did to prevent Obama from making recess appointments?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:30:48am

Is she really asking for a friend?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:32:02am

re: #224 Timothy Watson

Can the Democrats do the same thing to Trump that the GOP did to prevent Obama from making recess appointments?

They can try. Schummer is planning on doing so. Trump may ignore anyway. Court may decide. Trump may listen or not. Enjoy.

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Weaselone  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:32:49am

re: #192 Lupin

And my opinion is that you don’t know very much about the situation here and are regurgitating what you’ve read in a well-meaning but hopelessly mired in generalities American newspaper.

In any event, as always, your original argument was of the strawman-type, based on future hypothetical what-ifs (in effect, “what if the EU became as bad as the US”) while mine was based on some very harsh realities that are impacting the entire planet right now.

Besides, I’m hardly the only who’s made the decision to boycott travel to the US.

Actually, my original point was that the US is a fairly big and diverse place that ended up with the Shitgibbon because of an archaic voting system and voter suppression efforts in some of the states. Not visiting New York City or LA because the “country” is a cesspool only makes slightly more sense than not visiting Paris because Poland, especially considering that size and nature of the cesspools in the US and Europe aren’t really all that different, France just managed to avoid digging up their sewers in the last election in due to the nature of their system and let’s be honest because they recoiled from voting for their version of the Shitgibbon when they saw ours.

Now I sort of understand the reasoning behind not traveling to the US if you expect to be hassled by ICE, but realistically not travelling to liberal areas is a horrible way to fight the damage Trump is doing. States like California, Massachusetts and New York, along with major urban areas in even in deep red states are the key players resisting Trump. They’re also trying to do things like independently abiding by the terms of the Paris agreement. Trump’s already implementing policies that hurt the economies of these areas. His anti-immigrant, antiscience, anti-health direct impacts key parts of the economies in this areas. Tourism in many of these areas is also suffering. Europeans reinforcing Trump’s efforts don’t hurt Trump or his voters. They hurt the people opposing him, they make it more difficult to resist. If you actually want to impact Trump and his MAGAts, you’re going to need to be a little more selective.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:34:38am

re: #226 I Would Prefer Not To

They can try. Schummer is planning on doing so. Trump may ignore anyway. Court may decide. Trump may listen or not. Enjoy.

The courts threw out some of Obama attempts at recess appointments so there’s precedent against them.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:35:35am

re: #150 HappyWarrior

True point I guess. That’s scary honestly. He gets his news and opinions not from advisers but F&F.

From some of the stupidest people on tv, no less.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:36:05am
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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:37:02am

re: #226 I Would Prefer Not To

They can try. Schummer is planning on doing so. Trump may ignore anyway. Court may decide. Trump may listen or not. Enjoy.

I suspect Trump’s gonna do what he has done time and again: Exercise the powers of his office as he feels they should be, then expect the GOP to give him cover by defending it as within the powers of his office.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:37:14am

re: #228 Timothy Watson

The courts threw out some of Obama attempts at recess appointments so there’s precedent against them.

Yes. It’s on the books as they say. The point is (heard this on NPR this morning) is that the Senate, not the POTUS, gets to decide if they are open or not.

Trump will say it’s different because of reasons. Prepare for the Tweets of Insanity.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:37:21am

So now Cheeto Pendejo is threatening the state of Alaska.

Donald Trump’s administration has reportedly threatened to isolate Alaska after a senator from the state voted against the President’s health care motion.

Senator Lisa Murkowski was one of seven Republicans who rejected the measure to repeal parts of the Affordable Care Act, one of Mr Trump’s key policy pledges, during a vote on Tuesday.

Later in the day Ms Murkowski and Dan Sullivan, the other Republican senator for Alaska, allegedly received calls from the Department of the Interior warning them that the state’s future was now under consideration.

The messages, which came directly from the Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, were “troubling”, Mr Sullivan told Alaska Dispatch News.

Alaskan regulatory issues which require support from the federal government, including permission to expand oil drilling in the National Petroleum Reserve, may now not be approved, it is feared.

independent.co.uk

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:38:25am

re: #169 Patricia Kayden

Why is he talking about a woman’s hair and make up when she is in a professional position? Would he do the same with male colleagues? This is sexism on steroids. Why is no one in the GOP calling him out for this? And keep in mind that he is Trump’s Communications Advisor.

It’s ok. Sarah likes it. It’s how daddy is.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:39:34am

re: #230 nines09

Coke in the morning is never a good idea….

Anthony Scaramucci, Trump’s new communications director, just called into CNN and had a meltdown

Breakfast of champions, amirite?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:40:49am

re: #233 Dr Lizardo

So now Cheeto Pendejo is threatening the state of Alaska.

itics/donald-trump-alaska-us-senator-obamacare-repeal-bill-healthcare-republican-vote-lisa-murkowski-a7862341.html

Nice state you have there. Be a shame if something happened to it. My friend Vlad might want it back in exchange for Crimea.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:40:59am

re: #235 Dr Lizardo

Just a little more….Bug Dust.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:43:10am

re: #236 Big Beautiful Door

Nice state you have there. Be a shame if something happened to it. My friend Vlad might want it back in exchange for Crimea.

Yeah……..I could actually see Trump saying that.

BTW, I fixed the link in my posting.

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Jay C  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:43:24am

re: #209 wheat-dogg

re: #206 fern01

Sessions getting out of DC and Tillerson is missing in action. Such a close knit administration running the US government

They run the government like some kind of part-time business.

Probably because of all those pesky, privacy-invading forms and releases they have to provide to those intrusive government bureaucrats!

Now, if they were allowed to simply keep all their conflicts-of-interest and personal grifts secret,like the Constitution intended, they’d be able to run the government like a REAL full-time business!! (i.e., loot it for personal and ownerships’ profits while sticking the public with any costs)

//only half

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:44:53am

re: #68 Renaissance_Man

The stupid thing is, Obamacare isn’t even that good. This is, after all, the Heritage Foundation’s plan, and a plan that deserved the mockery it got when it was first floated. Only a deranged lobbyist could conceive of a plan to make everyone buy private health insurance and believe that this would somehow reduce the cost of healthcare. It’s madness. And yet here we are, defending it bitterly, because this particular madness stands between Republicans and the poor and elderly, whom the Republicans would much prefer to go away and die quietly once their money has been taken away and after they dutifully vote Republican.

Yes, I’m aware that realpolitik means that working with this flawed plan is better than nothing, and that the realities of America’s pathology mean that actual improvement and reform is a generational task. And I still support Obamacare on the grounds that saving lives is important and that it is good to get Americans used to the idea that healthcare should be a right and a privilege of living in a Western society, rather than a luxury that their owners dole out to the worthy. But it still feels stupid to be defending a plan that Republicans proposed in their delusion and would happily have supported had a black man not signed it. Yet I suppose that’s literally one of the least stupid things in American politics nowadays.

I think you are missing one of the important and major changes with the ACA.

Preexisting conditions.

Now I am not sure if that was part of the Heritage thinking, but it sure is important.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:50:19am

re: #233 Dr Lizardo

So now Cheeto Pendejo is threatening the state of Alaska.

independent.co.uk

And again if Obama had done something similar the Fox News Talk Radio Tea Party conglomerate would be in full meltdown demanding an overthrew by means violent or not of the elected order.

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Jay C  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:50:45am

re: #232 I Would Prefer Not To

Yes. It’s on the books as they say. The point is (heard this on NPR this morning) is that the Senate, not the POTUS, gets to decide if they are open or not.

Trump will say it’s different because of reasons. Prepare for the Tweets of Insanity.

Well, Trump can say anything (and usually does), but if it’s up to the Senate, Mitch McConnell’s opinion is likely to be of more importance.

I really have no idea what the Senate rules are vis-a-vis formal “recess” vs. “pro-forma session” (whether it’s a simple majority vote or whatever), but it’s a fairly safe bet that if there is any way for McConnell to manipulate them to 1) screw Democrats and 2) benefit Republicans, he’ll be on it like stink on sh*t….

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:51:06am

Everyone was right: now Lindsey Graham is on Fox and adds comments like “Fusion GPS was hired by the DNC to find dirt on Trump,” which, as I understand it, is a lie. He also said, “there’s a lot I admire about the President: he’s a good CinC, wants to rebuild the military, do infrastructure, repeal and replace Obamacare….” Bottom line: what Graham is really livid about, as other lizards said, is the treatment of a fellow southern Senator. That’s about it.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:51:33am

re: #235 Dr Lizardo

Breakfast of champions, amirite?

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Scarface - Rush, Rush, give me Yeyo

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:52:56am

re: #241 Sir John Barron

And again if Obama had done something similar the Fox News Talk Radio Tea Party conglomerate would be in full meltdown demanding an overthrew by means violent or not of the elected order.

If Obama had done something like that, I can assure you, the RWNJ talking heads would be openly and publicly advocating his assassination.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:53:08am

re: #211 Barefoot Grin

Lindsey Graham just interviewed on CNN: he’s livid about Sessions and expressed some of the strongest anti-Russian statements yet after Browder testimony.

And this is how Fox-republican run propaganda outlet presents it: Russia probe: Democrats block key witness against shadowy firm Fusion GPS

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:54:48am

re: #225 I Would Prefer Not To

Is she really asking for a friend?

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Tens of millions of friends.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:54:52am

re: #230 nines09

Scaramucci said that he and Trump had a message to deliver. That message was “we have a very, very good idea of who the leakers are, who the senior leakers are in the White House.” He described some of the leaks as “so treasonous that 150 years ago people would have been hung.”

It’s HANGED. Leakers are not a tapestry! (to paraphrase George R. R. Martin)

/pedantic

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:57:15am

re: #219 Targetpractice

Remember when the media was fawning over this guy just a few days ago:

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Josh Marshall has a good post up that addresses Trump’s ability to make people destroy themselves.

We’ve discussed at some length how President Trump destroys everything he touches. Trump’s own damaged, malignant personality is no great mystery. The world has no shortage of malicious predators or others who are so damaged that they sow chaos and hurt wherever they go. It’s our national misfortune that Trump has attained such power. But the existence of such a person is no mystery. There’s no shortage of them. What is difficult to understand, what requires some explanation is the way Trump is able to destroy those around him. Not once or twice but again and again, repeatedly, in a pattern so consistent that it becomes more inexplicable over time as new victims appear insensible to the unmistakeable pattern they have seen unfold along with us.

[…]

I puzzled over this for some time. Eventually I sensed that Trump wasn’t inducing people’s self-destruction so much as he was acting like a divining rod, revealing rot that existed already but was not apparent. It may seem like an odd comparison. But I’m reminded of the effect in the Pirates of the Caribbean movie series where the cursed pirates appear to be flesh and blood bodies. But the moonlight reveals them as desiccated skeletons, animated but undead. The rot was there but hidden. Trump is the moonlight. Perhaps better to say, to invert our metaphor, Trump is the darkness.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:58:30am

Translation:
Tweets ain’t legal orders or directives.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2017 • 7:59:31am

re: #250 FormerDirtDart

Translation:
Tweets ain’t legal orders or directives.

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Hopefully this is the case.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:00:19am

re: #230 nines09

Coke in the morning is never a good idea….

Anthony Scaramucci, Trump’s new communications director, just called into CNN and had a meltdown

This guy ran the ExIm bank. I am completely stunned by that. That bank is critical to sales large GE, Boeing, etc. companies How could someone as stupid as Mooch run something so important? Honestly, I’m stunned.

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freetoken  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:01:42am

re: #252 MsJ

It’s who you know, not what you know.

Especially at the top.

Trump is the best example of that. Of course he hires those for whom it is also obviously true.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:02:11am

re: #248 Timothy Watson

He’s starting to freak. The Lump is leaning on him. “Thought you said you could fix this….”

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:04:02am

re: #252 MsJ

I’m still stunned people gave money to Trump. And HTF do you crash casinos? Plural? If everybody wasn’t busy kissing his ass for the last 30 plus years he wouldn’t be here.

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:04:15am

re: #243 Barefoot Grin

Everyone was right: now Lindsey Graham is on Fox and adds comments like “Fusion GPS was hired by the DNC to find dirt on Trump,” which, as I understand it, is a lie.

Half a lie, actually.

They were originally hired by one of Trump’s primary opponents (not sure which one), and once Trump won the nomination, the info was abandoned. At which point the DNC became interested.

(To the best of my recollection, anyway.)

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:04:25am
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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:05:28am

re: #255 nines09

I’m still stunned people gave money to Trump. And HTF do you crash casinos? Plural? If everybody wasn’t busy kissing his ass for the last 30 plus years he wouldn’t be here.

There’s a difference between bilking morons than running a bank that is kinda critical to our economy.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:06:44am

re: #258 MsJ

Wakes up one day and looks around…….”Gee. I wonder where the Mob went?”

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:06:50am

re: #68 Renaissance_Man

The stupid thing is, Obamacare isn’t even that good. This is, after all, the Heritage Foundation’s plan, and a plan that deserved the mockery it got when it was first floated. Only a deranged lobbyist could conceive of a plan to make everyone buy private health insurance and believe that this would somehow reduce the cost of healthcare. It’s madness. And yet here we are, defending it bitterly, because this particular madness stands between Republicans and the poor and elderly, whom the Republicans would much prefer to go away and die quietly once their money has been taken away and after they dutifully vote Republican.

Yes, I’m aware that realpolitik means that working with this flawed plan is better than nothing, and that the realities of America’s pathology mean that actual improvement and reform is a generational task. And I still support Obamacare on the grounds that saving lives is important and that it is good to get Americans used to the idea that healthcare should be a right and a privilege of living in a Western society, rather than a luxury that their owners dole out to the worthy. But it still feels stupid to be defending a plan that Republicans proposed in their delusion and would happily have supported had a black man not signed it. Yet I suppose that’s literally one of the least stupid things in American politics nowadays.

Obamacare is more than just the individual marketplace. It addresses lack of transparency on health care costs (transparency being a means to help consumers make better and cheaper costs for comparable treatments, etc.) There’s little reason that if two doctors have similar records on procedures that one would cost $1000 in one place but $2000 at the hospital the next town over. Or that MRI or CT scans cost $500 in one hospital or $2,000 at the next. Etc.

Transparency on costs is one aspect. Another is the Medicaid expansion, which was what seriously drove down the uninsured rates where states bought into it. The states that refused are the ones with the highest uninsured rates.

Add to that the dependent care coverage to age 26 and the preexisting condition/lifetime caps changes, and it goes beyond the individual mandate to purchase insurance through a marketplace.

It’s also modeled on the MassCare plan, and that helped drive uninsured rate to historic lows in the state.

The entire point of the individual mandate was to give the GOP an attempt to buy-in and support Obamacare, but they decided to oppose everything they previously stood for.

Single payer is perhaps a better outcome than what we have now, but transitioning from multiple private insurers wont be easy. Medicaid/Medicare for all might be the preferred outcome - and both of those programs are responsible for constricting costs since the purchasing power of both programs helps stem the hikes in costs seen year over year for decades. GOP opposition to Obamacare on the basis of an annual premium hike is also misleading since there’s transparency on Obamacare plans not seen elsewhere in the private (employer based) marketplace. Likewise, opposition to Obamacare because there’s a single insurer in some areas is bullshit - employers give their employees one option too and it’s not like we have a choice about that. Insurers have decided it is more cost effective not to compete in some areas because they don’t have a network set up there.

Speaking of networks, the ACA allows insurers to sell equivalent policies across state lines, but they’ve refused to set up plans on that provision because it is cost prohibitive to set up a network somewhere they don’t operate. All the policies in those other states would be out-of-network, and therefore not cost-competitive to the people in those other states who’d buy a plan compared with in-state in-network plans.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:06:53am
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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:07:35am

This made me LOL.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:09:59am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:10:18am

re: #255 nines09

I’m still stunned people gave money to Trump. And HTF do you crash casinos? Plural? If everybody wasn’t busy kissing his ass for the last 30 plus years he wouldn’t be here.

More than a few of my students burst into laughter when I told them Trump crashed a few casinos back in the day. I honestly can’t say what it’s like to actually run a casino as I’ve never done it, but the general consensus, at least here, is owning a casino is like having an ATM machine that spits out free money 24/7.

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:11:41am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:12:44am

re: #259 nines09

Wakes up one day and looks around…….”Gee. I wonder where the Mob went?

Here:

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:14:19am

Ahem

So when do we get to find out about this guy’s connections to the Trump family? Soon, probably.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:16:21am

re: #267 makeitstop

Ahem

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So when do we get to find out about this guy’s connections to the Trump family? Soon, probably.

Well, if there’s a sudden and unexpected tweetstorm from Trump, I reckon that alone will pretty much confirm it.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:16:31am

re: #264 Dr Lizardo

Rule #1= The house always wins.
Rule #2=See Rule #1

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:17:20am

re: #252 MsJ

This guy ran the ExIm bank. I am completely stunned by that. That bank is critical to sales large GE, Boeing, etc. companies How could someone as stupid as Mooch run something so important? Honestly, I’m stunned.

He was only at the ExIm Bank for a month (started June 19, 2017).

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:18:30am
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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:19:01am

re: #270 Timothy Watson

He was only at the ExIm Bank for a month (started June 19, 2017).

I hereby propose that we shorten the nickname ‘Mooch’ to one that’s much more applicable -

Mook.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:19:31am

re: #230 nines09

Coke in the morning is never a good idea….

Anthony Scaramucci, Trump’s new communications director, just called into CNN and had a meltdown

Assuming he knew what time of day it was in the first place…

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:19:50am

re: #224 Timothy Watson

Can the Democrats do the same thing to Trump that the GOP did to prevent Obama from making recess appointments?

No.

When the GOP did that, they were the majority. It’s the majority leader who decides when they’re “officially” in session, even if it’s just a fake in-session that somebody opens/declares no quorum/closes every day.

The last part of Dubya’s term, when Dems were majority, it was Jim Webb who did the official open-close every day during nobody-here sessions (“cause I’m the new guy, and ‘cause I live in Virginia.”)

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Jay C  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:20:09am

re: #264 Dr Lizardo

More than a few of my students burst into laughter when I told them Trump crashed a few casinos back in the day. I honestly can’t say what it’s like to actually run a casino as I’ve never done it, but the general consensus, at least here, is owning a casino is like having an ATM machine that spits out free money 24/7.

Actually, given Donald Trump’s typical “business model”, it’s probably fairly easy to “crash a casino”: since he probably had little interest (or incentive) in running the casinos as casinos, per se. IIRC, he simply promoted them using his name (and borrowed money), then leveraged the hell out of them, and sold them off to other suckers investors at inflated values: values likely SO inflated that the huge cash flow from the casino operations was, in effect, irrelevant.

IOW, smoke-and-mirrors bullshit painted and gilded and slapped with a big gaudy “TRUMP” sign - like I said, his typical business model….

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:20:10am

re: #198 makeitstop

Wow, they’ve rolled in the steam shovels to move the bullshit this morning, haven’t they?

Mooch is in place…the game has been moved to a higher level.

Get your best hair stylist, makeup artists and shark suit tailors busy, we all have to look good as it makes this all go over on the rubes easier.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:20:11am

Viagra in the news again. Here’s a tidbit about Viagra that I didn’t know until a short time ago. One of the reasons the Armed Forces use Viagra?

Viagra On the Battlefield, In the Mountains

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:21:01am

re: #240 ObserverArt

I think you are missing one of the important and major changes with the ACA.

Preexisting conditions.

and lifetime caps

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:21:32am

re: #271 FormerDirtDart

It’s a carousel of cronies for Trump who can’t keep anyone in key positions for more than a few months - and he’s only been in office for a few months.

Trump’s busy throwing decisions to the wind and no one knows what’s going on. Everyone’s leaking in the WH, including Trump, Mooch, and everyone around them because that’s how they roll - they think this is a reality show and that in order to stay in good graces with Trump that they have to throw everyone else around them under the bus and paint others as being disloyal to Trump.

This is the personification of dysfunctional. Under the definition of dysfunctional in the dictionary, there’s a picture of the Trump WH.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:23:07am

re: #279 lawhawk

It’s a carousel of cronies for Trump who can’t keep anyone in key positions for more than a few months - and he’s only been in office for a few months.

Trump’s busy throwing decisions to the wind and no one knows what’s going on. Everyone’s leaking in the WH, including Trump, Mooch, and everyone around them because that’s how they roll - they think this is a reality show and that in order to stay in good graces with Trump that they have to throw everyone else around them under the bus and paint others as being disloyal to Trump.

This is the personification of dysfunctional. Under the definition of dysfunctional in the dictionary, there’s a picture of the Trump WH.

They’re just putting the “fun” back into dysfunctional!!

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wheat-dogg  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:24:00am

re: #264 Dr Lizardo

More than a few of my students burst into laughter when I told them Trump crashed a few casinos back in the day. I honestly can’t say what it’s like to actually run a casino as I’ve never done it, but the general consensus, at least here, is owning a casino is like having an ATM machine that spits out free money 24/7.

Trump made a classic blunder in opening a business: he opened two casinos in a small city that was barely able to support four existing casinos. Atlantic City is not like Vegas. It’s a small town, which did not have especially good transportation. To sell his investors on his casino projects, Trump said he would use Trump Air to fly people in from NYC and elsewhere. He didn’t. Only high-rollers and celebrities came in by helicopter. Everyone else came in by coach, like plebes.

To build his casinos, Trump borrowed a lot of money. They were over-leveraged, and the market in AC was already saturated. Plus, there were two Trump casinos competing against each other, and against four other “name-brand” casinos, which had been there for a few years already.

So, you had a recipe for disaster. Much of the proceeds had to service debt. Traffic was low, because of competition, poor accessibility and a weak economy. As I understand, the Trump casinos were not all that special — so there was no particular reason to gamble there, as opposed to the others.

That’s how you lose money running a casino. By being stupid.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:24:03am

re: #231 Targetpractice

I suspect Trump’s gonna do what he has done time and again: Exercise the powers of his office as he feels they should be, then expect the GOP to give him cover by defending it as within the powers of his office.

Until a Dem president tries the same thing. The it will be power grab, overreach, tyranny. But we already knew that.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:24:33am

re: #246 MsJ

And this is how Fox-republican run propaganda outlet presents it: Russia probe: Democrats block key witness against shadowy firm Fusion GPS

Yeah, that makes sense. Block him for a day. None of these stories ever note that the Steele dossier was first financed by anti-Trump Republican group. (Now, I’ll admit that I have no idea what Dem operatives did with it once they took over—they aren’t entirely clean here, but that’s irrelevant to the larger question of the Trump campaign’s potential collaboration and Trump’s probable financial ties to Russia.)

And remember, never, ever read the comments.

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:24:51am

re: #252 MsJ

This guy ran the ExIm bank. I am completely stunned by that. That bank is critical to sales large GE, Boeing, etc. companies How could someone as stupid as Mooch run something so important? Honestly, I’m stunned.

He didn’t run it; he was just nominated a few months ago, hasn’t had time to fuck it up yet.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:25:48am

re: #261 FormerDirtDart

That is a heavy piece, basically, we do not follow Trending on Twitter.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:26:07am

Flying out today guys. Should be fun.

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:26:42am

re: #276 ObserverArt

Mooch is in place…the game has been moved to a higher level.

Get your best hair stylist, makeup artists and shark suit tailors busy, we all have to look good as it makes this all go over on the rubes easier.

I have my doubts that Mook is going to be able to last in the gig, honestly.

Just like his Big Daddy Trump, he’s beginning to find out that being a Master of the Universe is a hell of a lot easier than working within the confines of federal bureaucracy.

Snapping your fingers as WH Comms Director doesn’t have the same effect in DC as it has on Wall Street - it only makes you look like a beatnik.

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:27:02am

re: #256 makeitstop

Half a lie, actually.

They were originally hired by one of Trump’s primary opponents (not sure which one), and once Trump won the nomination, the info was abandoned. At which point the DNC became interested.

(To the best of my recollection, anyway.)

Jeb!

And it wasn’t the DNC who circulated any of the information in that dossier; Christopher Steele is a former MI-6 guy, he recognized what his findings meant and he contacted first some EU-based FBI agent, then took it to a Senator.

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:29:27am

re: #286 HappyWarrior

Flying out today guys. Should be fun.

Safe flight, lil’ brother.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:30:01am

re: #270 Timothy Watson

He was only at the ExIm Bank for a month (started June 19, 2017).

Ok, that’s much better. Thanks!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:30:21am

re: #289 makeitstop

Safe flight, lil’ brother.

Thanks man. It should be a great trip. Happy that I get to show my kid brother the world.

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:30:23am

re: #288 sagehen

Jeb!

And it wasn’t the DNC who circulated any of the information in that dossier; Christopher Steele is a former MI-6 guy, he recognized what his findings meant and he contacted first some EU-based FBI agent, then took it to a Senator.

Thank you. I was pretty sure I didn’t have much more than the broad strokes right.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:30:44am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:30:46am

re: #281 wheat-dogg

Trump made a classic blunder in opening a business: he opened two casinos in a small city that was barely able to support four existing casinos. Atlantic City is not like Vegas. It’s a small town, which did not have especially good transportation. To sell his investors on his casino projects, Trump said he would use Trump Air to fly people in from NYC and elsewhere. He didn’t. Only high-rollers and celebrities came in by helicopter. Everyone else came in by coach, like plebes.

To build his casinos, Trump borrowed a lot of money. They were over-leveraged, and the market in AC was already saturated. Plus, there were two Trump casinos competing against each other, and against four other “name-brand” casinos, which had been there for a few years already.

So, you had a recipe for disaster. Much of the proceeds had to service debt. Traffic was low, because of competition, poor accessibility and a weak economy. As I understand, the Trump casinos were not all that special — so there was no particular reason to gamble there, as opposed to the others.

That’s how you lose money running a casino. By being stupid.

Good points - IIRC, shortly after Trump opened his casinos in Atlantic City, there was a major economic downturn. That certainly compounded his error (though in fairness, that’s a situation beyond his control).

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:31:06am

re: #293 FormerDirtDart

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The Religious Right is going to lose their shit over this.

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:31:12am

re: #291 HappyWarrior

Thanks man. It should be a great trip. Happy that I get to show my kid brother the world.

You’ll have a blast, I’m sure.

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:31:17am
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wheat-dogg  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:31:27am

re: #267 makeitstop

Ahem

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So when do we get to find out about this guy’s connections to the Trump family? Soon, probably.

This case has the Bitcoin world in a tizzy, because Vinnik allegedly obtained or laundered funds stolen from the Mt Gox Bitcoin exchange in Japan. The heist led to Mt Gox shutting its doors, and its CEO, Mark Karpeles, is on trial in Japan for mismanagement of the company.

BTC-e, the exchange associated with Vinnik, was a shady outfit. Its location, leadership, and storage procedures were all shrouded in mystery, but remarkably it chugged along, allowing users to trade Bitcoin and other digital currencies, rubles, euros, pounds and dollars, all with minimal KYC and AML requirements.

A match made in heaven, so to speak.

KYC = Know Your Customer/AML = Anti-Money Laundering

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:31:59am

re: #277 nines09

Viagra in the news again. Here’s a tidbit about Viagra that I didn’t know until a short time ago. One of the reasons the Armed Forces use Viagra?

Viagra On the Battlefield, In the Mountains

So they do battle at high altitudes with a raging boner? How does that work?

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:33:32am

re: #279 lawhawk

It’s a carousel of cronies for Trump who can’t keep anyone in key positions for more than a few months - and he’s only been in office for a few months.

Trump’s busy throwing decisions to the wind and no one knows what’s going on. Everyone’s leaking in the WH, including Trump, Mooch, and everyone around them because that’s how they roll - they think this is a reality show and that in order to stay in good graces with Trump that they have to throw everyone else around them under the bus and paint others as being disloyal to Trump.

This is the personification of dysfunctional. Under the definition of dysfunctional in the dictionary, there’s a picture of the Trump WH.

If only there was a pill for Electile Dysfunction. ;-)

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:33:50am

re: #295 HappyWarrior

The Religious Right is going to lose their shit over this.

OMG SATAN IS IN CHARGE OF OUR MILITARY!!! or something to that effect.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:33:59am

re: #293 FormerDirtDart

Shucks. Rod Crunchy Con Dreher was delirious with joy after Dump’s tweet stream yesterday morning.

//

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:35:31am

re: #299 MsJ

So they do battle at high altitudes with a raging boner? How does that work?

The drug, which became an instant blockbuster for Pfizer in 1998, works by causing blood vessels to relax — not only in the penis but in the lungs.

At high altitudes, such as in the mountains of Afghanistan, that makes sense.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:35:32am

re: #286 HappyWarrior

Flying out today guys. Should be fun.

Have fun. We expect a full report with pictures!!!!

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:36:33am

re: #260 lawhawk

Obamacare is more than just the individual marketplace. It addresses lack of transparency on health care costs (transparency being a means to help consumers make better and cheaper costs for comparable treatments, etc.) There’s little reason that if two doctors have similar records on procedures that one would cost $1000 in one place but $2000 at the hospital the next town over. Or that MRI or CT scans cost $500 in one hospital or $2,000 at the next. Etc.

Transparency on costs is one aspect. Another is the Medicaid expansion, which was what seriously drove down the uninsured rates where states bought into it. The states that refused are the ones with the highest uninsured rates.

Add to that the dependent care coverage to age 26 and the preexisting condition/lifetime caps changes, and it goes beyond the individual mandate to purchase insurance through a marketplace.

It’s also modeled on the MassCare plan, and that helped drive uninsured rate to historic lows in the state.

The entire point of the individual mandate was to give the GOP an attempt to buy-in and support Obamacare, but they decided to oppose everything they previously stood for.

Single payer is perhaps a better outcome than what we have now, but transitioning from multiple private insurers wont be easy. Medicaid/Medicare for all might be the preferred outcome - and both of those programs are responsible for constricting costs since the purchasing power of both programs helps stem the hikes in costs seen year over year for decades. GOP opposition to Obamacare on the basis of an annual premium hike is also misleading since there’s transparency on Obamacare plans not seen elsewhere in the private (employer based) marketplace. Likewise, opposition to Obamacare because there’s a single insurer in some areas is bullshit - employers give their employees one option too and it’s not like we have a choice about that. Insurers have decided it is more cost effective not to compete in some areas because they don’t have a network set up there.

Speaking of networks, the ACA allows insurers to sell equivalent policies across state lines, but they’ve refused to set up plans on that provision because it is cost prohibitive to set up a network somewhere they don’t operate. All the policies in those other states would be out-of-network, and therefore not cost-competitive to the people in those other states who’d buy a plan compared with in-state in-network plans.

Thanks lawhawk. I was going to get into Renaissance_Man’s post more, but didn’t have the time to take on his rather cavalier view of the whole of the ACA. I just wanted to point out one huge change he missed mentioning.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:36:41am

re: #294 Dr Lizardo

Good points - IIRC, shortly after Trump opened his casinos in Atlantic City, there was a major economic downturn. That certainly compounded his error (though in fairness, that’s a situation beyond his control).

Only someone with little understanding of market economics would opened two casinos in a saturated market in a sluggish economy. So, we can either conclude Trump is an idiot, or that he planned for the projects to fail, expecting to skate away from crushing debt by declaring bankruptcy.

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Jay C  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:39:18am

re: #270 Timothy Watson

re: #252 MsJ

This guy ran the ExIm bank. I am completely stunned by that. That bank is critical to sales large GE, Boeing, etc. companies How could someone as stupid as Mooch run something so important? Honestly, I’m stunned.

He was only at the ExIm Bank for a month (started June 19, 2017).

And a quick search turns up the info that the Ex-Im Bank (which has been a GOP bete noir for years for some reason) was slated to get the hook: until earlier this year, when Pres Trump apparently changed his mind about it - and, not coincidentally, I’m sure, decided to name a friend/crony/stooge (Tony Mooch) to run it.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:39:54am

‘A shiv in the ribs’: Kellyanne Conway throws Reince Priebus under the bus for leak of Scaramucci financials

Jebus. I would feel sorry for anyone else, but, frankly….I’m glad she looks so miserable.

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:40:12am

re: #278 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and lifetime caps

Yeah…that too. Thanks.

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:41:32am

re: #308 Dr. Matt

‘A shiv in the ribs’: Kellyanne Conway throws Reince Priebus under the bus for leak of Scaramucci financials

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Jebus. I would feel sorry for anyone else, but, frankly….I’m glad she looks so miserable.

Holy shit, she looks horrible.

Like meth addict horrible. I guess that’s what it looks like when you sell your soul.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:41:33am

re: #250 FormerDirtDart

Translation:
Tweets ain’t legal orders or directives.

What about the group of “my generals and military experts” Trump consulted on this monumental decision?

//////

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Weaselone  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:41:52am

re: #281 wheat-dogg

Trump made a classic blunder in opening a business: he opened two casinos in a small city that was barely able to support four existing casinos. Atlantic City is not like Vegas. It’s a small town, which did not have especially good transportation. To sell his investors on his casino projects, Trump said he would use Trump Air to fly people in from NYC and elsewhere. He didn’t. Only high-rollers and celebrities came in by helicopter. Everyone else came in by coach, like plebes.

To build his casinos, Trump borrowed a lot of money. They were over-leveraged, and the market in AC was already saturated. Plus, there were two Trump casinos competing against each other, and against four other “name-brand” casinos, which had been there for a few years already.

So, you had a recipe for disaster. Much of the proceeds had to service debt. Traffic was low, because of competition, poor accessibility and a weak economy. As I understand, the Trump casinos were not all that special — so there was no particular reason to gamble there, as opposed to the others.

That’s how you lose money running a casino. By being stupid.

The point of these businesses for Trump has never been for the business in question to ever make money. It’s to pay him a generous salary and provide him with generous perks until the business runs out of suckers willing to finance it.

He’s a PR guy. He’s absolutely shitty at running an actual, functioning business. He makes his money by slapping his names on various products and services to bilk investors and customers into financing and buying garbage. He then siphons off as much cash and perks as he can into his own pockets before the enterprises crash and burn.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:42:11am

re: #293 FormerDirtDart

Burke is a professional, but my letter would have been quite different, with far fewer words.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:43:15am

re: #303 Dr Lizardo

At high altitudes, such as in the mountains of Afghanistan, that makes sense.

I get that but the question remains. Their lungs expand (sorta) but don’t their dicks do the same thing? Since I don’t have one, I never investigated how these ED drugs work.

2 Enzyte Commercials
(Count the phallic symbols. Best.Commercials.Ever!)

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freetoken  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:43:42am

re: #310 makeitstop

Crime gangs end up turning on each other (to great value of law enforcement everywhere.)

I expect plenty of back-stabbing to come in the current Administration, as long as it lasts.

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:43:58am

re: #287 makeitstop

I have my doubts that Mook is going to be able to last in the gig, honestly.

Just like his Big Daddy Trump, he’s beginning to find out that being a Master of the Universe is a hell of a lot easier than working within the confines of federal bureaucracy.

Snapping your fingers as WH Comms Director doesn’t have the same effect in DC as it has on Wall Street - it only makes you look like a beatnik.

I agree. He is going to be out of there soon. But damn, he is going to look sharp in the meantime.

And it will be that slick mouth of his that will get him gone.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:44:28am

re: #293 FormerDirtDart

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Translation:

Data To hell with our orders trimmed

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wheat-dogg  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:45:16am

re: #308 Dr. Matt

‘A shiv in the ribs’: Kellyanne Conway throws Reince Priebus under the bus for leak of Scaramucci financials

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Jebus. I would feel sorry for anyone else, but, frankly….I’m glad she looks so miserable.

She’s aged a lot in 6 months.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:45:35am

re: #264 Dr Lizardo

More than a few of my students burst into laughter when I told them Trump crashed a few casinos back in the day. I honestly can’t say what it’s like to actually run a casino as I’ve never done it, but the general consensus, at least here, is owning a casino is like having an ATM machine that spits out free money 24/7.

Yes. The odds are ALWAYS in the house favor, ALWAYS. Most any other business is not that way, and many people manage to run them at a profit if not break even manner. Donny couldn’t even successfully run a business that pays+ for itself. But like real estate, casino’s are pretty much made for money laundering (surprise which businesses the Don is most caught up in).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:46:21am

re: #295 HappyWarrior

The Religious Right is going to lose their shit over this.

The PRESIDENT sent you a Tweet!!! Now snap to it, on the bounce!!!

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:47:44am

re: #308 Dr. Matt

‘A shiv in the ribs’: Kellyanne Conway throws Reince Priebus under the bus for leak of Scaramucci financials

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Jebus. I would feel sorry for anyone else, but, frankly….I’m glad she looks so miserable.

GAH! Who opened the Ark of the Covenant?!

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:48:00am

re: #308 Dr. Matt

‘A shiv in the ribs’: Kellyanne Conway throws Reince Priebus under the bus for leak of Scaramucci financials

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Jebus. I would feel sorry for anyone else, but, frankly….I’m glad she looks so miserable.

Which stage of the Downward Spiral do you think KAC is at?

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:48:03am

re: #318 wheat-dogg

She’s aged a lot in 6 months.

That’s what happens when your boss is manchild and your spend every waking moment changing his diapers and putting out dumpster fires. His entire staff deserves to suffer.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:48:03am

re: #312 Weaselone

The point of these businesses for Trump has never been for the business in question to ever make money. It’s to pay him a generous salary and provide him with generous perks until the business runs out of suckers willing to finance it.

He’s a PR guy. He’s absolutely shitty at running an actual, functioning business. He makes his money by slapping his names on various products and services to bilk investors and customers into financing and buying garbage. He then siphons off as much cash and perks as he can into his own pockets before the enterprises crash and burn.

Exactly. He’s a con man. He talks a great line, hooks his fish, throws away their bones, moves on to his next con. Steaks, vodka, casinos, airline, university, federal government …

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:49:18am

re: #308 Dr. Matt

‘A shiv in the ribs’: Kellyanne Conway throws Reince Priebus under the bus for leak of Scaramucci financials

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Jebus. I would feel sorry for anyone else, but, frankly….I’m glad she looks so miserable.

Yeeesh! That video image of KellyAnne is downright frightening. The White House under Trump and all that lying is not good for their health.

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:49:37am

re: #316 ObserverArt

I agree. He is going to be out of there soon. But damn, he is going to look sharp in the meantime.

And it will be that slick mouth of his that will get him gone.

When Trump realizes that Mook isn’t going to be able to fix his problems, he’ll get his turn under the bus. While many things about this administration are unpredictable, Mook getting thrown to the wolves is practically a given.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:50:25am

So Reince Preibus represents the last foot in the door that the GOP establishment had in trying to maintain some sort of control on what Trump is inflicting on the GOP…with him gone there will be only loose cannons on the gun deck…

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:51:40am

re: #310 makeitstop

Holy shit, she looks horrible.

Like meth addict horrible. I guess that’s what it looks like when you sell your soul.

The contrast in that picture is skewed to highlight ridges and valleys in her face. Even without that, though, she would probably still be looking pretty haggard.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:52:08am

re: #321 Targetpractice

GAH! Who opened the Ark of the Covenant?!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:52:17am

re: #328 Colère Tueur de Lapin

The contrast in that picture is skewed to highlight ridges and valleys in her face. Even without that, though, she would probably still be looking pretty haggard.

and her hair looks like she was just dragged in by her heels

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wheat-dogg  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:52:45am

re: #319 Eventual Carrion

Yes. The odds are ALWAYS in the house favor, ALWAYS. Most any other business is not that way, and many people manage to run them at a profit if not break even manner. Donny couldn’t even successfully run a business that pays+ for itself. But like real estate, casino’s are pretty much made for money laundering (surprise which businesses the Don is most caught up in).

I saw a YouTube video the other day which explained how the house wins at roulette. The wheel has an equal number of red and black numbers, and odd and even numbers, so theoretically the house would have no statistical advantage over the bettors (for a fair game). But the wheel has two additional green “cups”, marked with zeroes, which are considered neither even nor odd. Those two extra places for the ball to land tip the odds in the house’s favor, so over the long run, the house makes thousands each day on a roulette table.

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Weaselone  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:52:46am

re: #308 Dr. Matt

‘A shiv in the ribs’: Kellyanne Conway throws Reince Priebus under the bus for leak of Scaramucci financials

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Jebus. I would feel sorry for anyone else, but, frankly….I’m glad she looks so miserable.

Weird thing is that RNC PR BS didn’t leak anything. As far as I know, those financials are public records.

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:53:25am

re: #312 Weaselone

The point of these businesses for Trump has never been for the business in question to ever make money. It’s to pay him a generous salary and provide him with generous perks until the business runs out of suckers willing to finance it.

He’s a PR guy. He’s absolutely shitty at running an actual, functioning business. He makes his money by slapping his names on various products and services to bilk investors and customers into financing and buying garbage. He then siphons off as much cash and perks as he can into his own pockets before the enterprises crash and burn.

Yep. All he is a deal maker that skims the cream off the top before the rest of the deal goes sour.

It is also why he has no friends and has to rely on his family of grifters.

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:57:50am

re: #314 MsJ

I get that but the question remains. Their lungs expand (sorta) but don’t their dicks do the same thing? Since I don’t have one, I never investigated how these ED drugs work.

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(Count the phallic symbols. Best.Commercials.Ever!)

And a big scam. Dude is in jail here in Ohio I believe for all kinds of things starting with fraud and money laundering. I think his company got sued by many people that were ripped off believing those commercials.

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:58:41am

re: #332 Weaselone

Weird thing is that RNC PR BS didn’t leak anything. As far as I know, those financials are public records.

They are public, which makes this whole episode another case of the constant back-stabbing that is the hallmark of this administration. Mooch already drop Bullshit Spice out just by getting hired, now he’s trying to force Rinsed out through accusations of being a “leaker.”

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Weaselone  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:59:03am

re: #331 wheat-dogg

I saw a YouTube video the other day which explained how the house wins at roulette. The wheel has an equal number of red and black numbers, and odd and even numbers, so theoretically the house would have no statistical advantage over the bettors (for a fair game). But the wheel has two additional green “cups”, marked with zeroes, which are considered neither even nor odd. Those two extra places for the ball to land tip the odds in the house’s favor, so over the long run, the house makes thousands each day on a roulette table.

Best odds for gamblers is generally blackjack if you stick to a strategy, of course the rumor is that some penny slot machines odds can actually favor the gamblers.

Even with even odds though, the house is generally going to win against an individual as they can better weather a losing streak than individual players.

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 8:59:33am

re: #332 Weaselone

Weird thing is that RNC PR BS didn’t leak anything. As far as I know, those financials are public records.

The big meme on Facebook right now is Marisa Tomei from ‘My Cousin Vinny:’

It’s called disclosure, ya dickhead!

Class No. 7 - Discovery - My Cousin Vinny

(At 2:35 in the clip.)

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:00:11am

re: #332 Weaselone

Weird thing is that RNC PR BS didn’t leak anything. As far as I know, those financials are public records.

They are. KAC doesn’t know what she’s talking about.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:01:38am

re: #334 ObserverArt

And a big scam. Dude is in jail here in Ohio I believe for all kinds of things starting with fraud and money laundering. I think his company got sued by many people that were ripped off believing those commercials.

Oh, I know Enzite was a scam. That was just humor injected into my serious question about Viagra.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:01:41am

Trump fails to understand that he cannot make the entire US government sign a lifetime non-disclosure agreement…

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plansbandc  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:03:35am
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Mike Lamb  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:06:31am

re: #332 Weaselone

Weird thing is that RNC PR BS didn’t leak anything. As far as I know, those financials are public records.

They seem to be taking the same approach to Priebus as Trump is for Sessions.

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:07:11am

re: #339 MsJ

Oh, I know Enzite was a scam. That was just humor injected into my serious question about Viagra.

Viagra makes erections possible when constricted blood flow interferes with the normal operation of arousal brain chemicals; fight-or-flight feelings produce a different set of brain chemicals, arousal isn’t an issue (until *after* the battle. Surviving when you felt you might not is a huge turn-on).

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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:07:39am

re: #286 HappyWarrior

Flying out today guys. Should be fun.

Have a fabulous trip. You’ll be a great representative to show that not all Americans are batshit. Drink some for me. Take pics. Make memories.

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:08:21am

re: #327 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So Reince Preibus represents the last foot in the door that the GOP establishment had in trying to maintain some sort of control on what Trump is inflicting on the GOP…with him gone there will be only loose cannons on the gun deck…

Maybe that will help make the chasm between Trump and the actual Republican Congress grow wider and deeper thus making it easier for them to tear him down.

I don’t think Trump has an inkling of how DC politics actually works. He thought he could bully his way to a win and be given the keys to the castle.

He forgot one of the oldest axioms of politics and well, life in general. Be nice to those you meet on your way up because you will be meeting them again on the way down.

Trump hasn’t been nice to anyone on his way up. Paybacks going down are going to be heavy.

If they (all of DC) all get together and decide they are really going to make a big example of him he and his family will be glad to board a plane to Russia. They will be a smoking ruins and a laughing stock here in the U.S.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:08:57am

re: #332 Weaselone

Weird thing is that RNC PR BS didn’t leak anything. As far as I know, those financials are public records.

Yeah, the “leaked” financial info came from the “public” disclosure forms he filled out when he was named as a VP to the Export-Import Bank last month, the previous job that Donny gave him.
See:
re: #186 FormerDirtDart

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:09:17am

re: #308 Dr. Matt

According to Conway, people like Scaramucci who want to serve the president “have been completely demoralized and I think completely disinclined to do so based on the paperwork that we have to put forward. Divesting assets, the different hoops you have to run through. Because this White House is transparent and accountable and we all comply with those rules.”

OMFG

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:09:20am

re: #330 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and her hair looks like she was just dragged in by her heels

She slept on the couch in the oval office last night. With her shoes on.

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Jay C  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:09:27am

re: #332 Weaselone

Weird thing is that RNC PR BS didn’t leak anything. As far as I know, those financials are public records.

Of course they are: but does anyone think that Kellyanne’s pratings are meant to have any sort of factual grounding? The real “audience” here, I think, are Trump’s media lackeys and their viewer base (i.e. Fox Nation droolers) who are only going to hear “Reince Priebus” and “leaks”. The talking-heads will probably tut-tut and tsk-tsk over it (in between jabbering about Hillary Clinton’s emails), and/or sputter in outrage. Outcome: Priebus looks bad for seemingly shivving Dear Leader’s esteemed and trusted attorney (Mooch) - next stop: under the bus…..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:09:59am

re: #345 ObserverArt

If they (all of DC) all get together and decide they are really going to make a big example of him he and his family will be glad to board a plane to Russia. They will be a smoking ruins and a laughing stock here in the U.S.

They had many chances already, cannot imagine they will decide to act any time soon…

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:10:03am

re: #286 HappyWarrior

Flying out today guys. Should be fun.

Do you have one of those t-shirts that says “I’m sorry; I didn’t vote for him”?

During the Bush years, I seem to remember one that said it in 6 languages.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:10:12am

re: #343 sagehen

Viagra makes erections possible when constricted blood flow interferes with the normal operation of arousal brain chemicals; fight-or-flight feelings produce a different set of brain chemicals, arousal isn’t an issue (until *after* the battle. Surviving when you felt you might not is a huge turn-on).

Ok, that makes sense. Thanks!

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:10:24am

re: #341 plansbandc

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Video

That is such an incredibly sad video.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:11:44am

re: #347 Sir John Barron

OMFG

Jesus Christ…

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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:11:57am

re: #310 makeitstop

Holy shit, she looks horrible.

Like meth addict horrible. I guess that’s what it looks like when you sell your soul.

Once her buddy Anthony takes over her hair and makeup detail, all will be well.
//

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Mike Lamb  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:12:10am

re: #347 Sir John Barron

OMFG

Will no one rid me of these meddlesome ethics…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:12:40am

re: #356 Mike Lamb

Will no one rid me of these meddlesome ethics…

ALL THESE FORMS WE HAVE TO FILL OUT BECAUSE WE’RE SO TRANSPARENT ITS DEMORALIZING!!!!

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:12:47am
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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:14:16am

re: #358 gocart mozart

Members of the band Journey were just spotted in the White House briefing room. That is all.

Next up: ‘Don’t Stop Believin’ is announced as Trump’s new walkup music.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:15:55am

re: #347 Sir John Barron

OMFG

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:16:03am

re: #358 gocart mozart

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:16:25am

re: #358 gocart mozart

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This is Worlds Apart from what I was expecting.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:17:11am

re: #359 makeitstop

Next up: ‘Don’t Stop Believin’ is announced as Trump’s new walkup music.

I thought it would be “Hugging Touching Grabbing (by the Pussy)”

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:18:46am

How is this even legal?

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:19:18am

re: #299 MsJ

Ask the Army.

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:20:57am

re: #361 MsJ

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You’re on a roll today.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:21:55am

thestar.com

Most dishonest week of his presidency! I’ll bet he can top it, though. He’s just getting started.

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austin_blue  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:22:04am

re: #364 MsJ

How is this even legal?

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McConnell gets the last say as Majority Leader.

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:23:40am

re: #337 makeitstop

The big meme on Facebook right now is Marisa Tomei from ‘My Cousin Vinny:’

It’s called disclosure, ya dickhead!

[Embedded content]

Video

(At 2:35 in the clip.)

Thanks for the video clip. It has Marisa Tomei in it.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:24:03am

re: #364 MsJ

Source has told colleague @yabutaleb7 that Rs will *write* skinny bill @ today’s policy lunch. Unclear if wish list meets reconciliation.

— Amanda Becker

On what, their napkins?

/

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:24:26am

re: #369 ObserverArt

Thanks for the video clip. It has Marisa Tomei in it.

Auto updings for Tomei? :)

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:24:41am

I’ve now gotten the notification six times this morning that Jeff Bezos is the richest man in the world. Seriously, I get it. Really, I do. Stop telling me already.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:26:00am

re: #364 MsJ

Republicans want to vote on a bill in the next 24 hours that nobody has seen and will affect one-sixth of our economy. Terrifying.
— Dick Durbin

“If we let you see the bill you’d just oppose it.”

/

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:26:11am

re: #364 MsJ

How is this even legal?

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The parliamentarian can put the kibosh on the bill, but only if McConnell doesn’t move to override. If he does that, then the filibuster is effectively done for because any majority can just claim that a bill will be passed under reconciliation.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:26:25am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:27:44am

Three and a half more years of this folks!

Three and a half years…

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:28:21am

Throwback Thursday…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:30:25am

re: #377 makeitstop

Throwback Thursday…

No Collusion! OK there was some collusion but anybody would have done it!

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:31:12am

re: #277 nines09

Viagra in the news again. Here’s a tidbit about Viagra that I didn’t know until a short time ago. One of the reasons the Armed Forces use Viagra?

Viagra On the Battlefield, In the Mountains

re: #299 MsJ

So they do battle at high altitudes with a raging boner? How does that work?

They used viagra during Top Gear’s Bolivia Special years ago. Took it to fight the effects of hypoxia while driving over the Andes into Chile.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:31:43am

re: #379 FormerDirtDart

They used viagra during Top Gear’s Bolivia Special years ago. Took it to fight the effects of hypoxia while driving over the Andes into Chile.

No boners involved? :-)

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:32:55am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:34:02am

re: #380 MsJ

No boners involved? :-)

I think the lack of oxygen mitigated the reaction

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:34:59am

Is someone pissed at being threatened by an administration lackey?

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:35:18am
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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:35:43am

re: #379 FormerDirtDart

My doc told me about using it for some lung issues. Altitude sickness and the Army using it, in one of our rambling conversations. I remembered it this week with the mentions in the news. I thought it interesting. Increased blood flow. Also helps some with benign enlarged prostate.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:36:01am
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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:36:22am

re: #381 MsJ

govtrack.us

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:37:34am

re: #386 FormerDirtDart

Damn Deep State Senate Parliamentarians.

/

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:38:11am

re: #386 FormerDirtDart

JUST IN: Senate parliamentarian determines yet ANOTHER provisions of original BCRA violates Byrd Rule, requires 60 votes pic.twitter.com
— Rebecca Shabad (@RebeccaShabad) July 27, 2017

So, is the skinny repeal dead??

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:38:39am

So what set Mooch off this morning was a leak to Ryan Lizza that Trump dined last night with Hannity, Bill Shine, Mooch, Melania, and Kimberly Guilfoil (sp?).

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:39:10am

re: #389 Dr. Matt

So, is the skinny repeal dead??

I don’t think do. The BCRA is the original Senate shitsandwich bill.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:39:36am

re: #389 Dr. Matt

So, is the skinny repeal dead??

It’s not dead until you visually ID it on a slab in the morgue. I’d venture…NO

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:40:17am

How long before the GAO is defunded?

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freetoken  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:40:43am

re: #392 nines09

It’s not dead until you visually ID it on a slab in the morgue. I’d venture…NO

And then you have to worry about zombies….

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:40:43am

today’s thought experiment, re “the wall”

here’s the core
campaign: “we’re going to build a wall and get mexico to pay for it”
today: house bill includes funds to build the wall

forget everything else - videos, quotes, tweets, parsing the word “pay” (tariffs, future payback), some secret devious plot that’ll come out later, even that mexico publicly said time and again they werent going to pay for any wall — these are just reasons, excuses so forget it all

one simple question for the world’s greatest negotiator:

did we miss when you sat down and discussed this with mexico? some summit? proposals? talks?
days of meetings to hammer out the best deal ever?

nope.
you never even tried

you chickened out cause you knew you’d lose
or you were flat out lying all through the campaign
there is no third thing

worlds greatest negotiator, my ass.
embarrassingly sad!

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:41:30am

re: #389 Dr. Matt

So, is the skinny repeal dead??

No. BCRA was and is. Skinny is still in play. Which is just a parliamentary procedure to move forward so they can actually write something (but which should actually be written for this vote, not after).

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:41:52am

re: #392 nines09

It’s not dead until you visually ID it on a slab in the morgue. I’d venture…NO

I’ve seen too many horror movies where the assumption that the body on the slab in the morgue was dead lead to mayhem.

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I cannot.  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:41:59am
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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:43:10am

re: #384 Dr. Matt

[Embedded content]On Fox & Friends, Kellyanne Conway says filling out disclosure forms “demoralizing,” discourage people from serving in government.

no one’s had a problem before this administration.

“why cant we do what we want”
are they all six years old?

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:43:15am

re: #397 Barefoot Grin

I’ve seen too many horror movies where the assumption that the body on the slab in the morgue was dead lead to mayhem.

This White House IS a horror movie.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:44:02am

re: #383 FormerDirtDart

DELAYED: Hearing to confirm a series of nominees to Zinke’s Interior. Murkowski also controls Interior $$ via approps subcom chair

Evil Dems holding up Trump’s nominees.

///

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:45:34am

Not a Trump sibling
Apparently. you can be the offspring of ridiculously rich & entitled families and not be complete grifting douches

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:46:08am

re: #393 MsJ

How long before the GAO is defunded?

[Embedded content]

parts of the government continue to try and do their jobs

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:46:19am
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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:46:41am

And this trailer for the new Village Of The Damned 2017 is really scary. Real spooky. Terrifying. Like it’s real…

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:47:57am

re: #400 nines09

This White House IS a horror movie.

If it was a movie we could turn it off and it would be over.

This is a horror documentary being filmed in real time with all of us as a part of it all.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:48:56am

re: #406 ObserverArt

If it was a movie we could turn it off and it would be over.

This is a horror documentary being filmed in real time with all of us as a part of it all.

And we are not even being paid scale as extras…………….

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:49:58am

re: #392 nines09

It’s not dead until you visually ID it on a slab in the morgue. I’d venture…NO

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:51:04am

re: #404 FormerDirtDart

Eagerly awaiting a report of which “generals” and “military experts” were on this A-Team.

/

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:51:06am

re: #407 nines09

And we are not even being paid scale as extras…………….

Hell, I’m still waiting on my Soros check.

/

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:51:11am

re: #404 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]Asked about “my generals,” spox for @GenDunford said “I would ask the @POTUS or @WhiteHouse to characterize that portion of the statement.”

we’ve entered the silly place where we’d now have to ask each and every general individually “were you one of them”?

“i’m not going to answer that”
really, why not?

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:52:59am

re: #410 Targetpractice

Hell, I’m still waiting on my Soros check.

/

Yeah. Bastard stiffed me too.

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austin_blue  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:53:11am

re: #394 freetoken

And then you have to worry about zombies….

Shit! Fucking zombies again…

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:54:07am

re: #411 dangerman

we’ve entered the silly place where we’d now have to ask each and every general individually “were you one of them”?

“i’m not going to answer that”
really, why not?

I have $10 on William G. Boykin, currently of the Family Research Council.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:55:19am

re: #308 Dr. Matt

‘A shiv in the ribs’: Kellyanne Conway throws Reince Priebus under the bus for leak of Scaramucci financials

[Embedded content]

Jebus. I would feel sorry for anyone else, but, frankly….I’m glad she looks so miserable.

“She’s a witch!”

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:55:36am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:57:27am

Not joking: “His” generals are likely not serving, active, US flag officers. He has surrounded himself and packed his administration with retired officers. Those are ‘his”.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 9:59:48am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:00:25am

re: #415 I Would Prefer Not To

“She’s a witch!”

If Kelleyanne is put in charge of the Thanksgiving turkey pardons, it’s going to be a bloodbath.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:00:43am

re: #416 FormerDirtDart

quite right, although any bill expanded in conference would still have to pass the same Senate gauntlet that has dumped the BCRA and the straight repeal on their asses. Assuming there isn’t also some trickery in the conference that evades the reconciliation limits. But if that were possible, why not have the Senate vote on such a measure now?

The conference remains tricky in the sense that it’s a more secretive process than even this dark and silent Senate one.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:00:44am

Today in the White House. Trump in a staff training session…..

Willard - Training the Rats

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:00:57am

re: #415 I Would Prefer Not To

“She’s a witch!”

Yeah, I’d say she probably weighs less than a duck.

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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:01:05am

Seventeen years—seven years.
Three foot putt—thirty foot putt.
Tomato—tomahto.

My head hurts.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:01:07am

re: #46 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Johnson said he intends to testify in a public setting, adding he will turn any appearance before the committee into a “circus.”

That’s right, mock the Senate intelligence committee. They love that shit.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:02:19am

re: #417 Decatur Deb

Not joking: “His” generals are likely not serving, active, US flag officers. He has surrounded himself and packed his administration with retired officers. Those are ‘his”.

Flynn?

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:02:52am

re: #425 Barefoot Grin

Flynn?

And all the Little Flynns.

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KGxvi  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:03:04am

re: #424 Ace-o-aces

That’s right, mock the Senate intelligence committee. They love that shit.

C’mon, wouldn’t we all love to see a hearing involving Chuckles ending with “Marshall, please take the witness into custody”?

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:03:21am

re: #379 FormerDirtDart

They used viagra during Top Gear’s Bolivia Special years ago. Took it to fight the effects of hypoxia while driving over the Andes into Chile.

Kind of like the magic oxygen pills in Robinson Crusoe on Mars.
That 1964 classic is one of my favorite sci-fi movies. Saw it at the time and again recently on DVD. We know more about Mars now, but it’s still magic. The timeless appeal of the basic storyline is shown by the recent success of The Martian.

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:03:54am

re: #174 lawhawk

while of course its all about a tax cut

reducing brackets is not “simplification”

the problem is always:
defining income
defining exceptions
what deductions are

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:04:40am

re: #423 BeachDem

[Embedded content]

Seventeen years—seven years.
Three foot putt—thirty foot putt.
Tomato—tomahto.

My head hurts.

I’ll bet that pissed Trump off no end. A guy who wrote a review of a Trump course (and played a round with Trump without officially keeping score) got a call from Trump when the article came out. Trump was angry that they guy didn’t report Trump’s spectacular score. Explaining that he couldn’t because they didn’t really keep score didn’t soothe Trump at all.

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:04:54am

re: #425 Barefoot Grin

Flynn?

And probably that nut job who kept yammering about his God being bigger than Muslims’ God during the Iraq War. My Religio-Psycho name recognition is on the fritz.

Boykin?

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:05:00am

Speaking of horrors. A ride at the Ohio State Fair here in Columbus broke last night and flung some riders off of it. One young person was killed and several others are hurt some critically.

I don’t go to the fair anymore, but I never trust rides that are not permanent.

Here is some video and a story from the local NBC news.

NBC4i - One dead, seven injured after Fire Ball ride malfunctions at Ohio State Fair

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COLUMBUS (WCMH) — The Columbus Division of Fire says one person is dead and five critically injured after a ride malfunctioned at the Ohio State Fair.

Tyler Jarrell, 18, of Columbus, Ohio, was pronounced deceased at the fairgrounds. Seven others were injured and transported to area hospitals

At least four of the victims remained hospitalized as of late Thursday morning. Medical officials say three of the victims will require more surgery as well as rehab due to the injuries.

Columbus Fire Battalion Chief Steve Martin says one of the rows of seats on the Fire Ball ride “snapped off.”

Ohio Governor John Kasich said the Fair will be open Thursday; all rides will be closed until they are inspected again. Kasich said Fire Ball had been inspected several times, including by a third-party company. Ohio Department of Agriculture chief ride inspector Michael Vartorella said the inspection process is lengthy, as the ride has several pieces to it.

Kasich also said that 11 rides did not open at all on Wednesday. At least four were still closed after inspections.”The fair is about the best things in life, and tonight with this accident it becomes a terrible, terrible tragedy,” he said.

Amusements of America is the company providing rides at the State Fair this year. More information about the Fire Ball can be found on their website. It is described as an “aggressive thrill ride.”

Ohio Gov. John Kasich released a statement Wednesday evening:

“I am terribly saddened by this accident, by the loss of life and that people were injured enjoying Ohio’s fair. Our thoughts and prayers go out to those grieving and injured. I have ordered a full investigation into this incident and have ordered that all fair rides be shut down until additional safety inspections can be completed.”

Rides are inspected each year in the week leading up to the fair. Rides are also subject to spot inspections through the time the fair is open.

Wednesday was the opening day for the Fair, which runs until Aug. 6.

The Ohio State Fair released the following statement on their Facebook page:

“Our hearts are heavy for the families of those involved in last night’s tragic accident. We have shut down all rides until the state has inspected each and every ride again and deemed them to be safe. Gates will open at 9 am and other activities will resume as scheduled.”

Here is a YouTube video of the actual accident. It’s graphic so I am putting it in a private tag.

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:05:19am
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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:05:42am
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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:06:21am
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KGxvi  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:06:37am

re: #299 MsJ

So they do battle at high altitudes with a raging boner? How does that work?

It was originally developed as a treatment for hypertension, it was just found to have an… interesting side effect.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:07:47am

re: #431 makeitstop

And probably that nut job who kept yammering about his God being bigger than Muslims’ God during the Iraq War. My Religio-Psycho name recognition is on the fritz.

Boykin?

Forgot about him. There’s a slew of these guys that appear on Fox that I can’t quite keep track of.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:07:55am

re: #436 KGxvi

It was originally developed as a treatment for hypertension, it was just found to have an… interesting side effect.

Bolivia has a native version long predating viagra.

webmd.com

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Stanley Sea  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:08:10am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:09:19am

I’m guessing this is photoshopped.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:10:42am

re: #220 Timothy Watson

Not sure. He’s been simply THE WORST about managing this over the years. Most likely that’s what’s going to have to happen, unless his GP will do it. I’m SO TIRED of worrying. GAH!

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austin_blue  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:13:46am

re: #432 ObserverArt

Speaking of horrors. A ride at the Ohio State Fair here in Columbus broke last night and flung some riders off of it. One young person was killed and seeral others are hurt some critically.

I don’t go to the fair anymore, but I never trust rides that are not permanent.

Here is some video and a story from the local NBC news.

NBC4i - One dead, seven injured after Fire Ball ride malfunctions at Ohio State Fair

Holy Mother of Dog!

That’s just awful. Those poor kids.

[Embedded content]

Video

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:14:24am

re: #427 KGxvi

C’mon, wouldn’t we all love to see a hearing involving Chuckles ending with “Marshall, please take the witness into custody”?

I might have to throw some $$ to Chuck’s WeFuckYou scamsite if that were to happen. Please make that happen.

(or not)

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:14:37am

re: #428 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Ever read this? It was one of my favorites when I was a kid.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:15:00am

re: #432 ObserverArt

Speaking of horrors. A ride at the Ohio State Fair here in Columbus broke last night and flung some riders off of it. One young person was killed and several others are hurt some critically.

I don’t go to the fair anymore, but I never trust rides that are not permanent.

Here is some video and a story from the local NBC news.

NBC4i - One dead, seven injured after Fire Ball ride malfunctions at Ohio State Fair

[Embedded content]

Here is a YouTube video of the actual accident. It’s graphic so I am putting it in a private tag.

[Embedded content]

Wow, that sucks. Yeah, I don’t care for those rides.

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:15:40am
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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:16:16am
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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:16:33am

re: #429 dangerman

while of course its all about a tax cut

reducing brackets is not “simplification”

the problem is always:
defining income
defining exceptions
what deductions are

Easy peasy.

Income? You you work for a living? It’s income. You make money from money, it’s not.

Exceptions? Are you worth more than $2mm? None. Less, the 500 pages of exceptions and exclusions apply to you.

Deductions? Are you worth more than $2mm? Everything is deductible. If not, 1040EZ for you.

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retired cynic  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:16:40am

re: #118 FormerDirtDart

The article is way more damning than the short excerpt.
Very long, I might be just 1/4 through it.

[Embedded content]

That is straight up the scariest thing I have ever read. Nightmare inducing. Staying up with eyelids stuck open scary.

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:18:12am
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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:18:16am

Oooh, Lindsey’s talking tough again. What a bunch of bullshit.

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:18:38am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:18:39am

re: #436 KGxvi

It was originally developed as a treatment for hypertension, it was just found to have an… interesting side effect.

“Ya know, Doc, that new Viagra is good - my blood pressure’s down, but well……now I’ve got a stiffie all the time.”

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:18:59am
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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:19:05am

re: #417 Decatur Deb

Not joking: “His” generals are likely not serving, active, US flag officers. He has surrounded himself and packed his administration with retired officers. Those are ‘his”.

not splitting hairs with you and i could be reading too much into this

“Generals” was capitalized (though yeah, trump, twitter, thumbs, accidents)
military experts is not

could he (oh i forget, i suppose he could) bypass all the active duty generals
i got the impression “some” (one?) currently in uniform generals….

chain of command and all that

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:19:36am

This Regime may be the most dysfunctional in not just US history, but in World history.

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:20:09am
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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:20:39am
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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:21:12am
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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:22:15am
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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:22:43am

re: #452 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

There are a lot of Republicans that I’d like to see go down hard, and that son of a bitch is pretty close to the top of the list.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:23:03am

re: #459 gocart mozart

There it is. He’s one of those dudes who has to tat his name on his arm so he doesn’t forget…..”Uhhhhh…..Oh. Yeah……Uhhh. Paul…uhhhh”.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:23:56am

re: #454 gocart mozart

sort of feel like Scaramucci can’t be real and that some version of him has appeared throughout history to herald the end of empires

“I stuck around in St. Petersburg
When I saw it was a time for a change.
Killed the Tsar and his ministers
Anastasia screamed in vain.

I rode a tank
Held a general’s rank
When the Blitzkrieg raged
And the bodies stank.”

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:24:10am

re: #457 gocart mozart

Besides the fact that Shitler didn’t get the point of the NYT article, why the fuck is he capitalizing “failing”?

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:24:16am

re: #451 BeachDem

Oooh, Lindsey’s talking tough again. What a bunch of bullshit.

[Embedded content]

He’s simply McCaining.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:25:40am

re: #451 BeachDem

Oooh, Lindsey’s talking tough again. What a bunch of bullshit.

[Embedded content]

No Confederate Left Behind.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:26:12am

re: #451 BeachDem

Lindsey Graham acting out his concern as the world behind him reacts…
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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:27:04am

HuffPo continues with their great headers:

COLD CUTS: GOP DRAFTING REPEAL BILL OVER LUNCH!

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:27:09am

re: #452 gocart mozart

This explains Fox News article I referred to earlier. They need to discredit Browder not simply to protect trump.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:28:30am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:29:34am

re: #470 Dr. Matt

Kim Jong-un is talking to his aides and asking, “How did America out crazy us?”

“We cannot allow a craziness gap!!”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:32:04am

re: #470 Dr. Matt

Kim Jong-un is talking to his aides and asking, “How did America out crazy us?” #maga @potus

— Dr. Matt

“Social media and television, Sir. America also has in insane population.”

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:33:11am

This just popped up on my FB feed from a friend. Can any AZ Lizards make a recommendation?

URGENTLY NEEDED!
Sad but true…
Does anyone know a good criminal defense attorney in Tucson AZ?
Several evenings ago, a dear twenty-something friend of my daughter’s was sitting in her Tucson living room watching a movie with her boyfriend. There was a knock on the door. My daughter’s friend got up and answered the door.
Four policemen burst into the room and arrested both the woman and her boyfriend for “domestic violence”.
I suspect they hit the wrong address.
Both have since been charged with assault and/or domestic violence.
This is insane and they need legal assistance immediately.
I thought I’d ask my FB pals if they had any leads on a solid lawyer in that otherwise very nice town in Arizona.
You can PM me a name/number if you have one.
My daughter is furious and freaked out.
I’m just trying to help.

Thanks!

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:33:27am
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Myron Falwell  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:34:10am

re: #459 gocart mozart

Heh. It’s missing Christopher Christopher Christopher “The Pebble” Christopher.

(hidden for being kinda sorta NSFW)

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ericblair  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:36:32am

re: #455 dangerman

could he (oh i forget, i suppose he could) bypass all the active duty generals
i got the impression “some” (one?) currently in uniform generals….

chain of command and all that

I think we’re starting to get to that point in the Banana Republic spectrum, where for any crazy garbage El Presidente spews up in his morning histrionics, you have to look over to the guy with all the stars on his shoulder to see whether anything’s going to happen or not. I’m quite relieved to see that the DoD ain’t having any of this shit unless they’re forced to, and they’re not looking to make it easy.

So Conway looks like she’s on meth, Trump must be on some kind of uppers, Bannon obviously lives in a whiskey bottle, and Mooch must be hoovering his salary up his nose every week. Is there anyone in the White House who could pass a McDonalds employee piss test?

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Stanley Sea  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:39:53am
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Kragar  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:41:25am
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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:41:36am

re: #477 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

Ah—the non-apology apology:

“I want to extend my sincere apologies to those in our Scouting family who were offended by the political rhetoric that was inserted into the jamboree,” Michael Surbaugh wrote in a statement.

time.com

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:42:07am

She’s going to lose her job. Apparently, the police did nothing when she reported it and nothing really happened until the video was put on Facebook. Not the first incident of this kind of thing in that same area.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:43:18am

re: #477 Stanley Sea

They seem to miss the point that the problem (or the main problem) was the scouts apparent participation in Dump’s attacks. I mean they really aren’t in control of what a president says from the stage, but they can control their reception of it.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:43:23am

re: #477 Stanley Sea

More weak sauce from the BSA.

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:49:20am

re: #480 MsJ

She’s going to lose her job. Apparently, the police did nothing when she reported it and nothing really happened until the video was put on Facebook. Not the first incident of this kind of thing in that same area.

[Embedded content]

And of course it all happened in a WalMart store parking lot.

Ah, so ‘murican.

And now she loses her job. They never learn. I bet she blames he job loss on them too. It would never have happened if they were not here in this country and she didn’t have to confront them about it!

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:50:21am

re: #477 Stanley Sea

While we live in a challenging time in a country divided along political lines, the focus of Scouting remains the same today as every day. (JUST WHAT IS THAT FOCUS?)

Trustworthiness, loyalty, kindness and bravery are just a few of the admirable traits Scouts aspire to develop - in fact, they make up the Scout Oath and Scout Law. (AS IS CHEERING AT HORRIBLE THINGS SAID BY A LUNATIC)

As part of our program’s duty to country, we teach youth to become active citizens (CHEERING POLITICAL OPPONENTS MANY DON’T KNOW), to participate in their government, respect the variety of perspectives and to stand up for individual rights. (IF THAT WAS THE KIND OF PARTICIPATION THEY SUPPORT, NO THANKS)

Few will argue the importance of teaching values and responsibility to our youth — not only right from wrong, but specific positive values such as fairness, courage, honor and respect for others. (YOUR VALUES WERE ON DISPLAY)

For all of the adventure we provide youth such as hiking, camping and zip-lining, those activities actually serve as proven pathways and opportunities to develop leadership skills and become people of character. (IF WHAT WAS SHOWN IS CHARACTER, YOU’RE DOING CHARACTER WRONG)

In a time when differences seem to separate our country, we hope the true spirit of Scouting will empower our next generation of leaders to bring people together to do good in the world. (THANKS BUT NO THANKS TO THAT LEADERSHIP)

Took them three days to come up with this?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:52:50am

re: #480 MsJ

She’s going to lose her job. Apparently, the police did nothing when she reported it and nothing really happened until the video was put on Facebook. Not the first incident of this kind of thing in that same area.

This will be the new Great Cause for evangelicals. Christians being persecuted, losing their jobs, etc.

////

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:56:03am

re: #478 Kragar

Chaffetz On Russia Probe: ‘They Would Never Ever Ever Do This To The Clintons’ [VIDEO]
— The Daily Caller

Did lightening strike down this tweet?

/

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:57:41am

re: #480 MsJ

She’s going to lose her job. Apparently, the police did nothing when she reported it and nothing really happened until the video was put on Facebook. Not the first incident of this kind of thing in that same area.

[Embedded content]

Have a suspicion she has never been Employee of the Month.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:57:50am

re: #429 dangerman

while of course its all about a tax cut

reducing brackets is not “simplification”

the problem is always:
defining income
defining exceptions
what deductions are

Hmmm…. someone’s been paying attention :)

Tax brackets are a straight math issue (both for the taxpayer and for the IRS to compute and for Congress to identify specific revenue as adding, neutral, or add to debt).

But that’s not simplification. Simplification means addressing items of income, deductions, exclusions, credits, and includes depreciation and NOLs.

It means addressing capital gains and treatment of income by and from nonprofits. It means addressing the mortgage interest deduction and state and local taxes.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:58:44am

Looks like the Russia thing has the potential to create something of a schism in the GOP.

Bucking Idaho’s two GOP senators, the Kootenai County Republican Party has approved a resolution praising Russia for resisting a “progressive globalist agenda.”

The county Republican Central Committee narrowly passed the resolution on Tuesday favoring friendlier relations with Russia and condemning the Russian sanctions bill that was sponsored by Idaho GOP Sen. Mike Crapo and passed overwhelmingly by both the U.S. House and Senate.

The resolution praises Russia and denounces Crapo and Idaho GOP Sen. Jim Risch for supporting the measure. It also calls for them to “re-examine their foreign policy orientations” and adopt “an anti-globalist, America-first foreign policy orientation.”

Lindsay Nothern, communications director for Crapo, said Wednesday his office didn’t know about the Kootenai County GOP resolution.

spokesman.com

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2017 • 10:59:32am

re: #474 MsJ

[Embedded content]

Burning Man!!

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:00:51am

re: #448 MsJ

Easy peasy.

Income? You you work for a living? It’s income. You make money from money, it’s not.

Exceptions? Are you worth more than $2mm? None. Less, the 500 pages of exceptions and exclusions apply to you.

Deductions? Are you worth more than $2mm? Everything is deductible. If not, 1040EZ for you.

i understand what you’re after. i guess i wasnt clear

on the campaign trail, simplification is always talked about in terms of the number of pages of tax code. in the legislature that’s ignored and “simplifying” the brackets comes into play (which is really the tax cut - or hike)

its those thousands of pages that define what’s income if you dont earn a salary, own an unincorporated business, what expenses can be deducted from gross sales, what income is exempt (child support) or not (alimony) and on and on. defining taxable income - essentially the tax base, is extremely tricky

as for 1040 deductions (and i assume that includes credits and above the line stuff), eliminating all of them for anyone under 2m income (or did you actually mean “worth” and how would you ever measure that?) would be a terrible unleveling of the national playing field

then you’d have to greatly expand the 1040ez which would be counterproductive to it’s purpose because currently it only recognizes wages, interest and unemployment as income. nothing else, and there’s lots of other types of income that is and should be taxed.

while some public policy can and does creep into taxation, taxing can be fair and equitable. or simple. it generally can’t be both fair and simple at the same time

its the complexity that makes it more fair (imo)

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:02:18am

re: #489 Dr Lizardo

Looks like the Russia thing has the potential to create something of a schism in the GOP.

spokesman.com

Comments are worth a read. Not a single one in support.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:02:19am

I think MsJ was being snarky.

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I cannot.  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:02:52am

So, the other day, Paul Joseph Watson was owned so hard on Twitter that it made the off-Twitter news.

He came back for more.

And DAMN, did he get more.

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Jay C  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:03:00am

re: #489 Dr Lizardo

The resolution praises Russia and denounces Crapo and Idaho GOP Sen. Jim Risch for supporting the measure. It also calls for them to “re-examine their foreign policy orientations” and adopt “an anti-globalist, America-first foreign policy orientation.”

Anyone want to bet that that local committee sent their Senators this letter along with a complimentary copy of the Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion???

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:03:01am

re: #491 dangerman

You missed my sarcasm.

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:06:33am

re: #478 Kragar

[Embedded content]Chaffetz On Russia Probe: ‘They Would Never Ever Ever Do This To The Clintons

“the clintons” didnt do this you melonhead

theyre investigating the people who maybe did

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:07:20am

re: #477 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

Taking a beating in the comments. Deservedly so.

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:08:46am

re: #485 Sir John Barron

This will be the new Great Cause for evangelicals. Christians being persecuted, losing their jobs, etc.

////

..for their own behavior.

(while not taking responsible for said behavior)

or should that be “whilst”?

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:10:13am

re: #488 lawhawk

Hmmm…. someone’s been paying attention :)

Tax brackets are a straight math issue (both for the taxpayer and for the IRS to compute and for Congress to identify specific revenue as adding, neutral, or add to debt).

But that’s not simplification. Simplification means addressing items of income, deductions, exclusions, credits, and includes depreciation and NOLs.

It means addressing capital gains and treatment of income by and from nonprofits. It means addressing the mortgage interest deduction and state and local taxes.

yep

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:13:11am

About that TG tweet and the military’s reaction:

“There will be no modifications to the current policy until the president’s direction has been received by the secretary of defense and the secretary has issued implementation guidance,” Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Joseph Dunford wrote in a letter.

“…We will continue to treat all of our personnel with respect..”

thehill.com

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:14:19am

re: #498 makeitstop

Taking a beating in the comments. Deservedly so.

I’ve noticed over the last month or so…you can actually start to read some of the comments again. People with some brains are getting tired of the stupid shit and are deciding they’ve had enough and are going to answer back.

Trump did that!

And I have an inkling some of those pissed off commenters were Trump’s voters that took a chance on the outsider. They may be feeling a little foolish and are going to lash out to make themselves feel better about fucking up so bad.

Maybe we are starting to see a turn. If so, I hope it holds until November 2018 and is still holding November 2020.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:14:52am
504
dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:15:10am

re: #496 MsJ

You missed my sarcasm.

yeah - total apologies

Peanut

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:15:52am

re: #501 Decatur Deb

About that TG tweet and the military’s reaction:

“There will be no modifications to the current policy until the president’s direction has been received by the secretary of defense and the secretary has issued implementation guidance,” Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Joseph Dunford wrote in a letter.

“We will continue to treat all of our personnel with respect”

thehill.com

And watch Trump drop it and act like it never happened. It was a one-day stink bomb to get a little relief from Russian misdeeds.

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:21:10am

re: #433 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

Frankenstein

Two thumbs way up for this cautionary tale about the dangers of unsettled science. All hell breaks loose when Victor Frankenstein, an immigrant, creates a (((monster))) that is basically half Al Franken and half Jill Stein. Though it reads a bunch of books and becomes very smart and talky, the (((monster))) causes all sorts of havoc everywhere it goes, leading to a number of deaths and at least one abortion. Really makes you think.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:28:49am

re: #504 dangerman

yeah - total apologies

Peanut

I love me some Peanut!! No apologies needed.

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Jay C  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:28:52am

re: #505 ObserverArt

And watch Trump drop it and act like it never happened. It was a one-day stink bomb to get a little relief from Russian misdeeds.

I wish you were right: I think Trump probably will try to forget it (or actually may, who knows how that idiot’s memory works/fails?) - but I think the Holy Haters Lobby won’t be dropping the issue, and will come back to the WH to push for their obsessive prejudices yet again. And since the Preznit only listens to the last person he’s talked to, I think we’re likely to see more official trans-bashing in the future….

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:29:26am

re: #505 ObserverArt

And watch Trump drop it and act like it never happened. It was a one-day stink bomb to get a little relief from Russian misdeeds.

These are moments to appreciate his dementia (or ADHD or whatever he has).

510
Kragar  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:30:13am
511
MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:35:05am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:36:53am

re: #498 makeitstop

Taking a beating in the comments. Deservedly so.

Too bad I can’t read the comments. Oh well. Not sure if they’re down or my work computer won’t allow it.

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austin_blue  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:37:26am

re: #511 MsJ

[Embedded content]

The look like the BEST of Besties!

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Kragar  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:39:06am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:39:21am

re: #511 MsJ

That’s one of those “if looks could kill” sort of moments.

Great photo - I’ve always found the one of Sophia Loren giving Jayne Mansfield the side-eye to be one of my faves as well.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:39:36am

re: #513 austin_blue

The look like the BEST of Besties!

Since they are both evil pieces of shit, I wish them much success at tearing each other down.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:40:19am

re: #513 austin_blue

The look like the BEST of Besties!

So much camaraderie, you’ll be sick of camaraderie!

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:40:38am

re: #503 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

Lamar is a good guy who got seduced by the drugs. I hope he can stay clean, he’s got some good to do in this world.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:40:58am

re: #515 Dr Lizardo

That’s one of those “if looks could kill” sort of moments.

Great photo - I’ve always found the one of Sophia Loren giving Jayne Mansfield the side-eye to be one of my faves as well.

Loggins & Messina - Angry Eyes - (Loggins & Messina - October, 1972)

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:40:59am

re: #515 Dr Lizardo

That’s one of those “if looks could kill” sort of moments.

Great photo - I’ve always found the one of Sophia Loren giving Jayne Mansfield the side-eye to be one of my faves as well.

I see that one every time I go to Buca di Beppo. Cracks me up.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:43:26am

re: #520 MsJ

I see that one every time I go to Buca di Beppo. Cracks me up.

This one, from the same photoset, is even funnier, IMO. Might be sorta NSFW, so in a private tag.

J2stJrHuNz9yzLlPQAl3nsbZpLq2FVBuIwFPSVvZiqWj2JIMz/8XjzaOUEF0njoYF4/li8fdTvkVuUB/+VaOQJ0DA+rx7Tz3jiS2M3SufcfgsXzX6yIlwsKjOe0CuLjWuKyQNGYKSTA5rjgwr9vTuyNlrq+SIqmaepoeH2bqqq26RM4Saimm3hJladClUBxSRqgQEbecOdWWrxvPYsl9maEJm4AW5+IXBceIk2D+krcCJfJmhbW1DVs+Au1m4Md6B+TtVnhbJSJNqFBm5tb7r7yxVJjqCeXuZYMJ+Bb5qHaEFCVOpeT2xjI8W26BM/g2tm2+/Xf1uCgV2gQDFs54s30Nag64JzKiFZJybuSLSP8gswiFLZ8jvnmghkuYQ2IP

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Kragar  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:44:13am
523
Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:45:19am

Just running some errands. I briefly stumbled on Rush floating the theory that the Trump/Sessions thing is a misdirection until they spring the trap on Hillary.

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:45:38am

Jim Wright on the BSA ‘apology.’

Facebook Post

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:47:22am

re: #521 Dr Lizardo

There are so many great pictures at BdB. I love to just walk around and take them all in.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:47:24am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:47:51am

re: #523 Barefoot Grin

Just running some errands. I briefly stumbled on Rush floating the theory that the Trump/Sessions thing is a misdirection until they spring the trap on Hillary.

I guess all that OxyContin obviously damaged Limbaugh’s brain. Either that, or he’s so desperate that he’s managed to convince himself of utter bullshit.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:49:07am

re: #523 Barefoot Grin

Just running some errands. I briefly stumbled on Rush floating the theory that the Trump/Sessions thing is a misdirection until they spring the trap on Hillary.

Trump: So how do we hoodwink the public about this?

Sessions: I got it. You go to Twitter and start insulting me. The media will love it, and I don’t mind.

Trump: And I love insulting people. But what if we fool the dopes on our own side?

Sessions: We can let some of them in on it. Don’t worry this scheme of ours won’t leak.

Trump: Great idea. So bigly.

////

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:54:06am

An epic thread about Trump’s TG tweet and the military’s response.

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:55:41am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 11:57:13am

re: #529 makeitstop

An epic thread about Trump’s TG tweet and the military’s response.

Hmmmm, not really a directive. DJT probably thinks it was. He might not get the whole chain of command thing. You give an order to Mattis, and he orders the military, probably some paperwork involved, some papertrail with the reasons, etc.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:01:59pm

re: #531 Sir John Barron

Hmmmm, not really a directive. DJT probably thinks it was. He might not get the whole chain of command thing. You give an order to Mattis, and he orders the military, probably some paperwork involved, some papertrail with the reasons, etc.

Until the costs can be charged to an appropriation, it doesn’t exist. Ain’t no orders gettin’ cut.

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:02:48pm

re: #531 Sir John Barron

Hmmmm, not really a directive. DJT probably thinks it was. He might not get the whole chain of command thing. You give an order to Mattis, and he orders the military, probably some paperwork involved, some papertrail with the reasons, etc.

It’s obvious he doesn’t. He still thinks he can send out a memo and the underlings will just snap to it and get it done. And it’s clear that there was no thought put into implementation, at least none that the JCoS got.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:03:34pm

re: #532 Decatur Deb

Until the costs can be charged to an appropriation, it doesn’t exist. Ain’t no orders gettin’ cut.

Plus the UCMJ considerations.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:07:37pm

re: #529 makeitstop

An epic thread about Trump’s TG tweet and the military’s response.

[Embedded content]

Jesus.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:12:52pm

re: #534 Timothy Watson

Plus the UCMJ considerations.

A blue check mark isn’t enough validation to reverse policy, break the law, or start a war.

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:15:03pm

re: #531 Sir John Barron

Hmmmm, not really a directive. DJT probably thinks it was. He might not get the whole chain of command thing. You give an order to Mattis, and he orders the military, probably some paperwork involved, some papertrail with the reasons, etc.

Just like if he said it from a podium on tv

You pick up the phone and clarify. You wait for something in writing to verify

This ain’t the immediacy of war

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Jay C  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:15:17pm

re: #529 makeitstop

An epic thread about Trump’s TG tweet and the military’s response.

[Embedded content]

Hard to tell what Abramson is trying to get at. Half the thread is trying to determine if Trump’s tweets are “directives” or not, half seems to be whether or not Gen. Dunford ought to be cashiered for mutiny.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:18:09pm

re: #538 Jay C

Hard to tell what Abramson is trying to get at. Half the thread is trying to determine if Trump’s tweets are “directives” or not, half seems to be whether or not Gen. Dunford ought to be cashiered for mutiny.

As long as Mattis hasn’t relayed the order Dunford is golden. At that point Dunford kicks it down. Then the Service staffs get a grip on it, then it’s Halloween, then…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:34:06pm

re: #483 ObserverArt

And of course it all happened in a WalMart store parking lot.

Ah, so ‘murican.

And now she loses her job. They never learn. I bet she blames he job loss on them too. It would never have happened if they were not here in this country and she didn’t have to confront them about it!

Foreigners coming here putting American out of work!


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