Boy Scouts Chief Offers Weak Non-Apology Apology for Trump’s Vulgar Speech at Jamboree

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The Chief Scout Executive of the Boy Scouts of America, Michael Surbaugh, has posted one of those “we apologize if you were offended” non-apology apologies at the Boy Scouts site: From the Chief: Our Perspective on the Presidential Visit - Scouting Wire.

… For our Scouting family at home not able to see these real moments of Scouting, we know the past few days have been overshadowed by the remarks offered by the President of the United States.

I want to extend my sincere apologies to those in our Scouting family who were offended by the political rhetoric that was inserted into the jamboree. That was never our intent. The invitation for the sitting U.S. President to visit the National Jamboree is a long-standing tradition that has been extended to the leader of our nation that has had a Jamboree during his term since 1937. It is in no way an endorsement of any person, party or policies. For years, people have called upon us to take a position on political issues, and we have steadfastly remained non-partisan and refused to comment on political matters. We sincerely regret that politics were inserted into the Scouting program.

What’s missing in this statement is any actual renunciation of Trump’s grotesque, vulgar speech.

But of course, anyone who’s seen any speech by this malevolent narcissist was not the least bit surprised that he did this. And that’s why this apology rings very hollow indeed. For all their disavowals and claims that the Scouts are “non-partisan,” they had to know what would happen.

Not to mention the adult Boy Scout leaders who led the cheers and booing for Trump’s enemies, and stood behind him on stage, grinning and laughing at his grotesque, vulgar speech. If the Scout leadership were serious about this “apology,” the adults who enabled this shameful event should be disciplined and possibly removed from their duties.

I doubt that’s going to happen.

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420 comments

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:02:01pm

The Head of BSoA is also the AT&T CEO. He doesn’t want to risk putting his Time Warner merger in jeopardy.

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S'latch  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:04:23pm

so sorry you were offended by my middle finger, boy scouts of america

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:04:58pm
Not to mention the adult Boy Scout leaders who led the cheers and booing for Trump’s enemies, and stood behind him on stage, grinning and laughing at his grotesque, vulgar speech. If the Scout leadership were serious about this “apology,” the adults who enabled this shameful event should be disciplined and possibly removed from their duties.

Not just enemies…a former POTUS and SoS.

No class, BSoA.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:06:18pm

I loved the Boy Scouts. Did a lot of hiking and camping. Today not so much love, but the real villain here is Trump. He makes everything political. Remember his talk at the CIA? That was worse. Perhaps because of this orgs that don’t have to invite him won’t. It’s not worth the blowback.

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:08:51pm

BSA is taking a well-deserved beating in the comments, both for the non-apology and for not setting firm ground rules as to what was appropriate and what was not.

I saw one guy tossing around lame insults like ‘Broflake,’ but the smart people in the comments put him in his place pretty quick.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:10:03pm

re: #4 I Would Prefer Not To

I loved the Boy Scouts. Did a lot of hiking and camping. Today not so much love, but the real villain here is Trump. He makes everything political. Remember his talk at the CIA? That was worse. Perhaps because of this orgs that don’t have to invite him won’t. It’s not worth the blowback.

So what’s on my schedule this week? Do I have any bigly speeches lined up? How come these groups don’t invite me to give speeches anymore? My speeches are the best, everybody says so. I draw the biggest crowds! Record crowds!

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majii  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:12:34pm

re: #4 I Would Prefer Not To

Trump only gives speeches at venues where he won’t face any opposition. This indicates to me that he or someone else at the WH talked to Surbaugh before Trump appeared at the jamboree. It’s very likely that Trump was assured beforehand that he could say anything he wanted to say in his speech, and that he would not be booed for any reason.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:12:38pm

re: #5 makeitstop

BSA is taking a well-deserved beating in the comments, both for the non-apology and for not setting firm ground rules as to what was appropriate and what was not.

I saw one guy tossing around lame insults like ‘Broflake,’ but the smart people in the comments put him in his place pretty quick.

Ground rules? Where Trump is concerned, he doesn’t believe in rules, morals, ethics, or basic etiquette. He just does whatever he’s going to do.

The BSA deserves the scorn and derision for this mess, and the limp wristed response to Trump’s actual speech.

That a bunch of kids would cheer to Trump regaling the audience with how a “rich developer friend” of his got bought out and got a yacht and had parties… if you know what I mean, shows that his cognitive function is that of a teen who doesn’t necessarily understand the consequences of his actions.

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KGxvi  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:12:41pm

re: #6 Sir John Barron

So what’s on my schedule this week? Do I have any bigly speeches lined up? How come these groups don’t invite me to give speeches anymore? My speeches are the best, everybody says so.

You know, we just passed the graduation season, and other than one (?) of the military academies and “Liberty” “University”, I don’t remember Trump giving too many commencement speeches. That seems highly unusual, but also not entirely surprising.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:15:51pm

The repeal effort reminds me of the horror movie It Follows, in which the monster keeps slowly, relentlessly moving forward, ready to eat it’s victims alive if it ever catches it’s prey. No CBO score, no poll, no lack of support can stop the GOP from continuing to push this abomination towards passage, I guess in the hopes they can wear down the opposition one way or another.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:16:25pm

re: #9 KGxvi

You know, we just passed the graduation season, and other than one (?) of the military academies and “Liberty” “University”, I don’t remember Trump giving too many commencement speeches. That seems highly unusual, but also not entirely surprising.

We gotta do more graduation speeches! How about that loony school in OK? Oral Roberts? What a f0cking name! But the kids will love me. They didn’t invite me? Well tell ‘em I’m coming anyway.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:18:51pm

re: #9 KGxvi

It’s typical for the President to do a couple a year. 3-4 seems typical. Reagan did 12 over his 8 years.

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:19:00pm

re: #10 Big Beautiful Door

The repeal effort reminds me of the horror movie It Follows, in which the monster keeps slowly, relentlessly moving forward, ready to eat it’s victims alive if it ever catches it’s pretty. No CBO score, no poll, no lack of support can stop the GOP from continuing to push this abomination towards passage, I guess in the hopes they can wear down the opposition one way or another.

Something, anything

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:21:56pm
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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:22:59pm
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jaunte  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:23:15pm

re: #7 majii

Trump only gives speeches at venues where he won’t face any opposition.

Soon he’s going to have to go to an elementary school and talk to “Pickle.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:25:46pm

re: #7 majii

Trump only gives speeches at venues where he won’t face any opposition. This indicates to me that he or someone else at the WH talked to Surbaugh before Trump appeared at the jamboree. It’s very likely that Trump was assured beforehand that he could say anything he wanted to say in his speech, and that he would not be booed for any reason.

Just like a dictator…

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austin_blue  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:25:52pm

re: #8 lawhawk

Ground rules? Where Trump is concerned, he doesn’t believe in rules, morals, ethics, or basic etiquette. He just does whatever he’s going to do.

The BSA deserves the scorn and derision for this mess, and the limp wristed response to Trump’s actual speech.

That a bunch of kids would cheer to Trump regaling the audience with how a “rich developer friend” of his got bought out and got a yacht and had parties… if you know what I mean, shows that his cognitive function is that of a teen who doesn’t necessarily understand the consequences of his actions.

Exactly. He’s got the attention span of a gnat and no soul. He’s off-topic in 30 seconds and feeds off of derision. It’s what he is and always will be, a certified, 24-carat asshole.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:27:28pm

The rabid religious right worries about gays in the BSA and ignores Trump basicly fondling an entire jamboree with shit that would get your drunk uncle beat the fuck up.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:27:40pm
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jaunte  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:28:04pm

re: #19 gocart mozart

The Mooch is too stupid to understand: if Reince is gone, he’s just the next sucker in line.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:28:32pm
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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:28:36pm

re: #19 gocart mozart

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This guy never does anything him self
He fires people on TV as an act.
Petrified to confront anyone irl and be that tough decisive no nonsense ceo
Chicken and fraud

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:31:40pm

Note that the BSA apologoid wasn’t addressed to the nation as a whole—only to the Boy Scout “family”.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:31:50pm

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:32:02pm

New definition of insanity: have a net worth of $85 million but want to work for Trump.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:32:21pm

Gross….

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Jay C  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:32:35pm

re: #5 makeitstop

BSA is taking a well-deserved beating in the comments, both for the non-apology and for not setting firm ground rules as to what was appropriate and what was not.

I saw one guy tossing around lame insults like ‘Broflake,’ but the smart people in the comments put him in his place pretty quick.

Comment crit is definitely deserved: if the “letter” in that link is the text of Surbaugh’s “apology” , it’s certainly a masterpiece of non-statement: the boilerplate is heavy enough to armor a dreadnought …

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:34:15pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:34:29pm

re: #15 MsJ

Ah, just politics, no biggy. Hey, what about YUUUUUUGE Hillary donation to acting FBI director McCabe? Scandal!!!!!1

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:35:29pm

re: #23 MsJ

LOL

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:35:30pm

re: #8 lawhawk

Ground rules? Where Trump is concerned, he doesn’t believe in rules, morals, ethics, or basic etiquette. He just does whatever he’s going to do.

The BSA deserves the scorn and derision for this mess, and the limp wristed response to Trump’s actual speech.

That a bunch of kids would cheer to Trump regaling the audience with how a “rich developer friend” of his got bought out and got a yacht and had parties… if you know what I mean, shows that his cognitive function is that of a teen who doesn’t necessarily understand the consequences of his actions.

I’m still thinking, though not expressed, Trump’s story about his rich friend is another tale of the Real Life of Donald J. Trump.

It’s like the Snake Poem. He is the snake.

At the BS of A Jamboree the snake was telling a story about itself.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:35:55pm

re: #7 majii

Trump only gives speeches at venues where he won’t face any opposition. This indicates to me that he or someone else at the WH talked to Surbaugh before Trump appeared at the jamboree. It’s very likely that Trump was assured beforehand that he could say anything he wanted to say in his speech, and that he would not be booed for any reason.

I don’t think I would encourage booing there either, just because of the average age of the participants (a voting age or older group, boo away). But rapt silence would be encouraged unless he said something positive about the kids specifically or the organization, then some self congratulatory cheering would have been fine. The Hitler Youth feel was just creepy.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:37:50pm

Really, at this point, what they are doing is trying to wear everyone down with so much bullshit it’s hard to know where to start. Trump stirs up outrage and meanwhile, back at the ranch, his minions are tearing the government apart limb from limb, federal to local, and breaking anything they can. I’m personally wondering how much money they’re looting from us via a ton of slight of hand back channels. While they point and scream about emails and Benghazi, DNC criminals (I had to chastise a friend on facebook for linking to SMOTIs blog regarding Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s brother being part of some sort of criminal activity. Both sides do it, clean up our mess first or we’re hypocrites, vote for Bernie, blah, just kill me, I have a pain behind my eye now) , and whatever stupid shit they can tapdance into to lure our attention away from the fact they’re dismanteling whatever they can.

I know Justice grinds along verrrrry slowly, but at what cost right now? I think it might be worse than we can imagine, but I hope I am wrong.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:40:30pm

re: #21 Dr. Matt

Newt Gingrich says White House communications director Anthony Scaramucci has been “divisive” and “full of himself”

There goes his wife’s ambassadorial nomination.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:40:40pm

Cheeto is giving outs medals

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:40:48pm
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A dark and stormy covfefe  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:40:52pm

re: #7 majii

Melania learned from the best of them, as she’ll be gracing Canada with her first solo foreign trip. Lucky us, as she’ll be visiting the Invictus Games.

“The Invictus Games is an international Paralympic-style[1] multi-sport event, created by Prince Harry of the Commonwealth Realms, in which wounded, injured or sick armed services personnel and their associated veterans take part”

en.wikipedia.org

I guess that’s pretty much protest proof. You could boo her, but much like an awful performance of the National Anthem, it’s probably better if you don’t.

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:41:50pm

re: #15 MsJ

Democrats demand investigation of ‘political blackmail’ against Murkowski politico.com … via @Politico
1:56 PM - Jul 27, 2017

Nice. A bit like lighting a small brush fire in your opposition party and standing back to watch how big it gets and who is going to try to put it out.

And on display for everyone to see.

Trump Talker: “This is obviously the Democrats playing dirty tricks. It shows they can’t legislate and work together and they will do anything to get the news away from their misdeeds.”

Newshounds at Presser: “Say whut?”

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petesh  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:42:07pm

re: #30 gocart mozart

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I’m beginning to think that Congressional Committees should just ask Josh Marshall to come and explain it all them, preferably on national TV. If they won’t do it, maybe Chris Hayes would have Josh on for a telethon — I mean, 23 minutes won’t do it. There are others — Krugman has a pretty good grasp, for example — but Josh is The Man right now.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:42:29pm

Rob Portman tweeted he will vote for any piece of crap bill McConnell proposes, just to get to the conference committee . Looks like Heller will be the deciding vote, and I’m pretty sure he’ll fold. Then we wait and see what foul beast is manufactured in committee.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:45:02pm

re: #5 makeitstop

BSA is taking a well-deserved beating in the comments, both for the non-apology and for not setting firm ground rules as to what was appropriate and what was not.

Like, maybe, “hey, you know that anecdote you like to tell about William Levitt having orgies on his yacht and then getting wasted at a cocktail party in New York? Maybe the Boy Scout Jamboree isn’t the right pace to use that story.”

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:45:59pm

re: #28 Dave In Austin

Gross….

This?

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Kragar  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:48:34pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:48:52pm

re: #22 jaunte

The Mooch is too stupid to understand: if Reince is gone, he’s just the next sucker in line.

Is The Mooch stupid? Or, is he using this to get his face out big time. We’ll probably see a book deal and media tours, then he will run for Governor of New York or something like that. Mooch is shooting for glory here.

And if Trump fires him, wait for the stories The Mooch will tell.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:49:08pm
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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:49:25pm

re: #44 Dr. Matt

Kellyanne is about 6.5 on the downward spiral scale.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:49:49pm

re: #48 MsJ

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Kellyanne is about 6.5 on the downward spiral scale.

I confirm your diagnosis.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:50:34pm

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A Mom Anon  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:51:16pm

re: #45 Kragar

“family” too.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:51:26pm

re: #50 I Would Prefer Not To

She should start small… Ask for a comb.

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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:51:57pm

re: #14 Timothy Watson

Early OT, but wanted to post it before I forgot about it:
‘It makes me feel equal’: A deaf Gallaudet swimmer pushes NCAA to change rules, adopt technology

Despite everything, progress persists.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:52:01pm

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wheat-dogg  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:52:05pm

Deputy attorney general in California arrested on child pornography charges.

reuters.com

His father is G. Gordon Liddy, of Watergate fame.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:53:24pm

re: #50 I Would Prefer Not To

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:53:56pm

re: #54 Dr. Matt

WITH makeup….

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Kragar  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:54:06pm

re: #55 wheat-dogg

Deputy attorney general in California arrested on child pornography charges.

reuters.com

His father is G. Gordon Liddy, of Watergate fame.

Shit, I work over that way

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A Mom Anon  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:56:00pm

re: #50 I Would Prefer Not To

This is what happens when your soul is ugly. It eventually leaks to the outside. I hope it was worth it Kelly. I don’t care about her attractiveness or not, I’m no freaking beauty queen either, but it’s obvious the lying is taking it’s toll. Not to mention people making fun of her for being, shall we say, umm, less than sharp.

You know, I could almost understand this if you were barely getting by. But these people, none of them, seem to have financial issues that would merit this level of debasing themselves in public for a paycheck.

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majii  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:57:41pm

re: #22 jaunte

“The Mooch is too stupid to understand: if Reince is gone, he’s just the next sucker in line.”

Hiring the Mooch to do his dirty work shows that Trump is a coward. This is the man whom many voted for because they think/thought he’s a strong leader. There’s nothing strong about someone who hires someone else to do his dirty work. Neither Trump not the Mooch have the wherewithal to realize that the constant in-fighting, public threats of firings and criminal investigations of WH staff, and resignations are not signs of a stable WH environment. Furthermore, neither seems to realize that the WH is not a venue in which constant episodes of The Apprentice should be occurring on a daily basis. Putin is really enjoying this show.

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Jay C  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:57:54pm

re: #47 nines09

Wish I had more updings to give this: best 5 minutes and 29 seconds I’ve spent here in a while. Amazing how the melody seems to have written for a century-old contraption like that. Fitting, somehow….

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 12:58:02pm

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:00:01pm

Fucking Rob Portman.

You spineless weasel!

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:00:09pm

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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:01:02pm

re: #58 Kragar

Shit, I work over that way

Jeez—he’s pleading not guilty, but admitted: (In private tag because gross)

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Wonder what he would have admitted if the plea was guilty.

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Jay C  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:02:32pm

re: #60 majii

Furthermore, neither seems to realize that the WH is not a venue in which constant episodes of The Apprentice should be occurring on a daily basis.

I disagree: to this country’s unutterable disgrace, I think this is precisely how the Trump White House insiders (if not the Preznit himself) view their “Administration”.
Basically, a “reality TV” spectacle for the press and the rubes, so that they can get on with the business of doing whatever damage they want to do behind the scenes.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:02:46pm

re: #63 ObserverArt

Fucking Rob Portman.

You spineless weasel!

Plus he may be lying. There are reports that the House may pass skinny repeal this weekend. Nothing any Republican says about this process can be trusted.

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:04:57pm

re: #60 majii

“The Mooch is too stupid to understand: if Reince is gone, he’s just the next sucker in line.”

Hiring the Mooch to do his dirty work shows that Trump is a coward. This is the man whom many voted for because they think/thought he’s a strong leader. There’s nothing strong about someone who hires someone else to do his dirty work. Neither Trump not the Mooch have the wherewithal to realize that the constant in-fighting, public threats of firings and criminal investigations of WH staff, and resignations are not signs of a stable WH environment. Furthermore, neither seems to realize that the WH is not a venue in which constant episodes of The Apprentice should be occurring on a daily basis. Putin is really enjoying this show.

see re: #24 dangerman
chicken and/or fraud

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:05:00pm

re: #64 Dr. Matt

her face hurts.

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:07:08pm

re: #69 nines09

her face hurts.

well, it’s killin’ me

(ah, those grade school days)

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:07:40pm

Today in Alternate Reality: the current Russian collusion distraction effort is “Wasserman-Shultz IT Staffer Probe”

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Dave In Austin  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:08:06pm

re: #44 Dr. Matt

Well, that too.

Shiticus was giving medals out to first responders to the House baseball tragedy. He was drooling on Steve Scalise’s (sic) wife.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:08:44pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:08:51pm

Just discovered someone’s been using my credit card number to buy pizzas and movie tickets. What fun. Now reporting the fraud to my bank.

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whitebeach  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:09:15pm

Here’s the thing that’s different from reality TV and that Trump is just too damned egotistical to understand: In a presidential administration, and probably in this administration more than any other in living memory, anyone you pointlessly fire, stab in the back, throw under the bus or whatever other figure you like is potentially also a witness. Against you.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:09:42pm

re: #70 dangerman

well, it’s killin’ me

(ah, those grade school days)

my face hurts…..
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Ace-o-aces  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:10:17pm

re: #44 Dr. Matt

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This?

Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:10:25pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Just discovered someone’s been using my credit card number to buy pizzas and movie tickets. What fun. Now reporting the fraud to my bank.

Please tell me it was the other Chuck Johnson and you are going to press charges. (Doesn’t have to be true).

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:11:37pm

re: #76 nines09

Odo did a better job of taking human form.
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Kragar  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:11:41pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Just discovered someone’s been using my credit card number to buy pizzas and movie tickets. What fun. Now reporting the fraud to my bank.

Had that happen a few years ago

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ipsos  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:11:59pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Just discovered someone’s been using my credit card number to buy pizzas and movie tickets. What fun. Now reporting the fraud to my bank.

But did they have pineapple on them?

Inquiring Lizard minds need to know these details.

(And seriously, that sucks - hope they can clear your account up quickly.)

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:12:10pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Just discovered someone’s been using my credit card number to buy pizzas and movie tickets. What fun. Now reporting the fraud to my bank.

Fun times….Someone lit me up for $2400.00 in concert tickets short time ago. Guy paid with my card on Paypal. I suspected Apple pay which I have since disabled. I was covered. Good luck.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:12:37pm

re: #79 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Much more class and dignity also…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:13:19pm

re: #83 nines09

Much more class and dignity also…

Yeah, Odo is a great character. I love DS9.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:14:13pm

re: #84 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Yeah, Odo is a great character. I love DS9.

Yes. they actually cared about the characters and did great work.

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Kragar  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:14:14pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:14:15pm

Stupid headlines that made me giggle…

The Nickname “Reince Penis” Is Now Part of the Public Record

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:15:04pm

re: #44 Dr. Matt

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This?

She’s doing the Blue Meth!

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:16:38pm

re: #73 Dr. Matt

Where’s his right hand…..asking for a friend..

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:17:27pm

re: #88 Joe Bacon 🌹

She’s doing the Blue Meth!

There were actual meth dealers selling blue meth, presumably with food-coloring in it, to market it based on the show. It was a great show, but that’s not the lesson one should take from it.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:21:56pm

re: #86 Kragar

Trans people were barred from military service for 7 and 1/2 years under Obama. Where was all your leftist outrage then?

— Chris Barron

Yeah this totally excuses reinstituting the ban on a whim without any visible consultation or public process.

/

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:25:00pm
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whitebeach  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:25:25pm

re: #90 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

There were actual meth dealers selling blue meth, presumably with food-coloring in it, to market it based on the show. It was a great show, but that’s not the lesson one should take from it.

Mais yeh, probably not, but what is the lesson one should take from it?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:26:57pm

re: #93 whitebeach

Mais yeh, probably not, but what is the lesson one should take from it?

That it’s a stupid, and dangerous thing to do. They didn’t exactly glamorize it.

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Kragar  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:27:57pm
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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:27:58pm

re: #92 jaunte

Nice to know. Not one other nation in the world read this…Go back to sleep……only the wind…shhhh….
So a Tweet can do what?

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ericblair  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:28:38pm

re: #60 majii

Putin is really enjoying this show.

I’m sure he is, but it’s not really helping him. He hasn’t gotten what he wanted: the end to sanctions for him and his buds. The US government is pretty much paralyzed and its allies have to work around the current idiot in the White House. However, the US was never Russia’s problem. Russia’s problem is Russia, and the US/the West is the excuse.

I’m fairly sure that Putin believes his own bullshit by now, which is a fatal condition for a leader but can hurt a lot of innocent people before taking its prey. He really thinks the West is his problem, but the Russian economy will continue to decline and fail because of mismanagement and endemic corruption no matter who is in the White House. What Trump buys him is opportunity to get into more idiotic money wasting foreign adventures, which will hurt the locals but hurt Russia as well.

VV Putin is not a SUPERGENIUS. He is an opportunist with poor risk management skills, who saw an opportunity and lept before thinking. The Trump administration hasn’t delivered, and won’t deliver, and one way or another will end. It is and will continue to be a disaster, and Americans will want someone to blame. VV Putin, SUPERGENIUS, will be right there ready to take up the mantle.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:28:59pm

re: #95 Kragar

Bannons liver pushes to leave his body…

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wheat-dogg  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:33:10pm

re: #95 Kragar

This was the Rage Furby’s argument against Twitter banning him forever, as I recall.

Twitter, Facebook, and Google are not legally utilities, because they are not monopolies like your city water company or electric company. I don’t have to use Google services — there are alternatives. Many people live without Facebook or Twitter. They are not necessities. Water, electricity and natural gas, however, are.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:34:14pm

OK one more….Then I’m done… Off to biz….just one…………more

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:34:24pm

re: #92 jaunte

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Glad China is so happy-go-lucky and can take a joke.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:35:09pm

“I’m not going to answer your specific hypothetical, because it seems designed to be deliberately provocative, and I’m not in that business. I can assure you that all U.S. military commanders, as U. S. citizens, absolutely subscribe to the principle of civilian control of the military. Next question, please.”

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:35:23pm

re: #73 Dr. Matt

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Shudder

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:37:06pm

It’s getting old so if you don’t want to read another missive to Rob Portman I don’t blame you. But damnit…I started out contacting him and I am going to finish contacting him. But maybe not today. I’m more than a little pissed at Portman.

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Kragar  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:37:16pm
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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:39:28pm
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wheat-dogg  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:39:56pm

re: #101 Eventual Carrion

Glad China is so happy-go-lucky and can take a joke.

China is angry with Botswana because Bots allowed the Dalai Lama to visit.
reuters.com

China has already “clearly” expressed its point of view about the Dalai Lama’s visit, Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kang told a daily news briefing.

“Issues relating to Tibet concern China’s sovereignty and territory integrity. We demand the relevant country earnestly respect China’s core interests and make the correct political decision on this matter,” Lu said, using stronger language than before on the issue.

“China will not interfere in other countries’ internal affairs, but will certainly not tolerate another country doing anything that harms China’s core interests,” he added, without elaborating.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:41:34pm

So, I expect China will not be pleased with the commander’s remarks.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:43:00pm

re: #104 ObserverArt

BRAVO!

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:43:02pm

Steve Bannon Liver Escaping Scene

Aline 1979 - Birth of the first alien in vehicle scene

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:44:08pm
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Jack Burton  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:44:54pm

re: #64 Dr. Matt

re: #76 nines09

Both of these qualify for the Addison Foster “My Face is Tired” award.

Apparently the Clownstick regime hired the same people who animated Mass Effect Andromeda to do their spokesholes makeup, etc.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:46:18pm
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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:47:03pm

re: #112 Jack Burton

My face can cause you pain as I hurt award…Or that instant the soul leaves the…wait…no soul to escape..nevermind..

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VegasGolfer  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:49:44pm

re: #82 nines09

Fun times….Someone lit me up for $2400.00 in concert tickets short time ago. Guy paid with my card on Paypal. I suspected Apple pay which I have since disabled. I was covered. Good luck.

Interested to know how you think apple pay was responsible

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Jack Burton  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:51:29pm

re: #113 Charles Johnson

Idiots admit to criminal wrongdoing yet again, because they are idiots that have no clue what they are doing. They should be leading people to lunch line in a prison rather than trying to lead a country.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:52:06pm

re: #113 Charles Johnson

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Feature, not a bug. They’re not even trying to hide it - they are explicitly working to derail the investigation.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:52:38pm
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Jack Burton  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:53:36pm

re: #118 MsJ

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And they are right.

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:53:51pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]Energy Secretary Rick Perry reminds scientists that a little skepticism is “quite all right.”

no one says it isnt
you’re not being “skeptical”

i dont think that word means what you think it means

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whitebeach  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:54:02pm

re: #94 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That it’s a stupid, and dangerous thing to do. They didn’t exactly glamorize it.

Oh, OK, thanks for clearing that up. So my original impression of The Untouchables on TV with Robert Stack, which didn’t run as long as Breaking Bad, was correct: It was about how stupid and dangerous drinking in speakeasies was back in the day.

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:55:33pm

re: #116 Jack Burton

Idiots admit to criminal wrongdoing yet again, because they are idiots that have no clue what they are doing. They should be leading people to lunch line in a prison rather than trying to lead a country.

see re: #106 dangerman

bannon’s shadow press office may does violate law

apparently black letter law

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2017 • 1:56:51pm

Isaac Chotiner:

“…There is also a tribal element to our politics—and it is far more significant on the Republican side—that seems to overwhelm everything else. People of otherwise admirable character and intelligence, when it comes to the prospect of being singled out or shunned for not going along with their tribe, simply cannot resist. We have seen this with cults and religions.”
slate.com

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:00:49pm

re: #96 nines09

Nice to know. Not one other nation in the world read this…Go back to sleep……only the wind…shhhh….
So a Tweet can do what?

No. And the process of nuclear release was oversimplified somewhere along the reporting chain. Other than that, he’s just restating our long-term policy.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:03:20pm

re: #115 VegasGolfer

They never explained anything to me except it was compromised on PayPal. New card, that was LINKED to Apple Pay. No other card was. I figured I would try Apple Pay as a easier way to pay. My other cards would notify me of big transactions, this was a new card, and they did not. Surprise. I used that card only for a very few transactions. I have a paypal account. I have multiple cards. I’ve been compromised before. The only thing that card company was going to tell me was where it was compromised. Paypal was where it was. So if I have only that card on AP, and only used it a few times, in my hand, I suspect that. And that is what I said. I could be wrong, but the one thing that was different was I activated it with Apple Pay.

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Botsplainer  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:03:49pm

Been struggling figuring how to share video from our Australian dive liveaboard from May. Since it is Shark Week, I can say “I’m unimpressed with the TV offerings, compared to what I saw when I got off the boat, what swam peacefully with me, what was waiting at the back of the boat as I returned - and it was every dive, every day, for 4 straight days”.

Finally figured it out. White tips,
black tips, greys and a few hammerheads were about.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:04:16pm

How it works: National Command Authority

en.wikipedia.org

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:04:23pm

re: #124 Decatur Deb

I know we never stated we would not use first strike, but chucklehead could have used some tact.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:05:07pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:05:39pm

re: #123 jaunte

Isaac Chotiner:

“…There is also a tribal element to our politics—and it is far more significant on the Republican side—that seems to overwhelm everything else. People of otherwise admirable character and intelligence, when it comes to the prospect of being singled out or shunned for not going along with their tribe, simply cannot resist. We have seen this with cults and religions.”
slate.com

What is this “otherwise admirable character and intelligence” nonsense? Any such people that were Republicans in the past have left the party by now.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:06:32pm

re: #128 nines09

I know we never stated we would not use first strike, but chucklehead could have used some tact.

It looks like he might have been trapped in a tradition that lets military officers speak “non-attribution” in an academic setting.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:10:06pm

re: #125 nines09

The only credit/debit card problems I have ever had were with PayPal. Most recent was in 2016 while I was touring Malaysia. Someone used my PayPal card number to pay for *Nigerian* pay TV services and shop for sundries in London. My card was in my possession, and I had not even used it during that trip. I got it all resolved, but PayPal does not make it easy to resolve fraud. Nor do they seem especially worried about the security of their systems.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:10:49pm

re: #59 A Mom Anon

This is what happens when your soul is ugly. It eventually leaks to the outside.

” Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes clear to the bone.”

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:12:14pm
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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:13:54pm

re: #132 wheat-dogg

This was not an abuse/hack of my Paypal, It was a card compromise. I could be wrong, but that is my conclusion. No more active wifi/ RF card reading payments.

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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:14:04pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

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I think “leave the gun, take the cannoli” should now be replaced with, “How about the cheeseburgers? How about the pizza?”

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:14:41pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

If the entire West Wing breaks out in an hour-long melee with tire irons and broken beer bottles, no innocents will be harmed.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:16:25pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

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So who is he, Richie Aprile? His ending was not pretty.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:16:54pm

re: #132 wheat-dogg

My last hack was a 5 Guys hamburger joint, where I handed them the card. Someone had access or a swiper and was slick. I was at that one about 5 times in 2 weeks.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:17:46pm

re: #47 nines09

Made me think of this piece of the Bioshock Infinite soundtrack.

Bioshock Infinite Music - Girls Just Want to Have Fun (1983) by Robert Hazard, Cyndi Lauper

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:19:09pm

I thought I couldn’t be surprised any more by these vulgar morons who’ve taken over the White House, but this Scaramucci interview is a fucking jaw-dropper.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:19:09pm

bbl

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wheat-dogg  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:20:50pm

re: #139 nines09

My last hack was a 5 Guys hamburger joint, where I handed them the card. Someone had access or a swiper and was slick. I was at that one about 5 times in 2 weeks.

It’s easy to buy those swiper things online. It’s one reason why cards are being switched from mag strip to embedded chips.

It’s also possible to buy stolen credit card numbers on the dark web. I reckon that’s how mine got compromised.

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:20:54pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

Money quote

Scaramucci also told me that, unlike other senior officials, he had no interest in media attention. “I’m not Steve Bannon, I’m not trying to suck my own cock,” he said, speaking of Trump’s chief strategist. “I’m not trying to build my own brand off the fucking strength of the President. I’m here to serve the country.” (Bannon declined to comment.)

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whitebeach  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:20:56pm

re: #137 Decatur Deb

If the entire West Wing breaks out in an hour-long melee with tire irons and broken beer bottles, no innocents will be harmed.

True, but sadly the main reason for this will be that no one in the West Wing knows what a tire iron is, and all will quickly call for the maid to clear away the broken bottles.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:21:16pm

re: #55 wheat-dogg

So, complete lack of ethics runs in the family.

Now the question is how much of that is nature and how much, nurture.

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:21:28pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

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Geez.

I always thought that Trump would be the one who would suffer physical effects from working in the White House. But this guy sounds like he’s gonna pop a vein any minute now.

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:22:05pm

Oh good God…

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wheat-dogg  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:22:05pm

re: #141 Charles Johnson

I thought I couldn’t be surprised any more by these vulgar morons who’ve taken over the White House, but this Scaramucci interview is a fucking jaw-dropper.

Does “real Amerika” truly want mobsters running the country?

Rhetorical question.

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VegasGolfer  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:22:18pm

re: #125 nines09

Sounds like the issue is with paypal. PayPal and apple pay are separate, and do not work together. apple pay is more secure than using the actual cc. this is because of the nfc technology and the token system that apple pay uses.
I’ve heard many horror stories about people using PayPal, just be glad you used your CC and not your bank account.

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freetoken  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:22:31pm

More religious mythology goes down for the count:

Ancient DNA counters biblical account of the mysterious Canaanites

[…]

One of those sources is the Bible’s Old Testament, which documents a grisly end for the Canaanites: After the Israelites’ exodus from Egypt, they swept into Canaan and annihilated its people. But did that really happen? Archaeological data suggests that Canaanite cities were never destroyed or abandoned. Now, ancient DNA recovered from five Canaanite skeletons suggests that these people survived to contribute their genes to millions of people living today.

[…]

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:23:15pm

re: #149 wheat-dogg

Does “real Amerika” truly want mobsters running the country?

Rhetorical question.

They’re taking that to De LAWD in prayer…

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:24:09pm
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wheat-dogg  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:25:29pm

re: #150 VegasGolfer

Sounds like the issue is with paypal. PayPal and apple pay are separate, and do not work together. apple pay is more secure than using the actual cc. this is because of the nfc technology and the token system that apple pay uses.
I’ve heard many horror stories about people using PayPal, just be glad you used your CC and not your bank account.

During one of my previous run-ins with PayPal, I had enabled my PP account to pull funds directly from my bank account without my approval. Big mistake. My card was compromised, and my bank account was drained. Fortunately, there was not much in the account, but it still took a while to get the funds back.

I learned my lesson, though.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:26:14pm

re: #95 Kragar

Bannon pushes for Facebook and Google to be regulated like utilities they do in the Rodina.

What Bannon really means.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:27:01pm

re: #151 freetoken

More religious mythology goes down for the count:

Ancient DNA counters biblical account of the mysterious Canaanites

It was just one village of Canaanites, probably, and oral legends expanded it to mean all Canaanites everywhere.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:27:57pm

re: #152 Joe Bacon 🌹

They’re taking that to De LAWD in prayer…

The White House is becoming more like TV’s Gotham every day.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:28:16pm
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jaunte  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:29:21pm

re: #158 Stanley Sea

Short fingered vulgarian.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:31:36pm
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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:33:14pm

re: #141 Charles Johnson

I thought I couldn’t be surprised any more by these vulgar morons who’ve taken over the White House, but this Scaramucci interview is a fucking jaw-dropper.

He’s like a not-very-bright mini-mobster.

This was my favorite sequence:

Scaramucci also told me that, unlike other senior officials, he had no interest in media attention. “I’m not Steve Bannon, I’m not trying to suck my own cock,”

First of all, for someone who’s not interested in media attention, he certainly has been running his mouth non-stop in the media. And second of all—nice talk from the communications director (and hideous mental image now burned into my brain.)

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CongoJack  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:35:30pm

re: #161 BeachDem

He’s like a not-very-bright mini-mobster.

This was my favorite sequence:

Scaramucci also told me that, unlike other senior officials, he had no interest in media attention. “I’m not Steve Bannon, I’m not trying to suck my own cock,”

First of all, for someone who’s not interested in media attention, he certainly has been running his mouth non-stop in the media. And second of all—nice talk from the communications director (and hideous mental image now burned into my brain.)

Bannon is going to need to do a lot of yoga in the next few months to even tough touch his toes let alone fellatio himself.

Edit: cant spell

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:35:40pm

What in holy hell are the Republican Senators doing???

I’m watching these four knuckleheads going on and on and all I see is an admittance they have no idea what they are voting on but they want to vote on it.

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petesh  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:35:56pm

“You can’t spell Moloch without Mooch” — a commenter at LGM (sorry, I forget who)

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freetoken  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:36:49pm

re: #156 wheat-dogg

It was just one village of Canaanites, probably, and oral legends expanded it to mean all Canaanites everywhere.

There was no invasion of the “Promised Land” by Israelites coming from Egypt.

Archeology informs us that the upland Semitic inhabitants didn’t like pigs, while those on the coast did. This was one of the differentiators that passed down through time. The coastal lowland folk ate shellfish, so of course the highland people used that too to differentiate themselves.
This is how culture works to separate people.

The upland people eventually become known as the Judahites, while the lowland folk by the sea became known as the Canaanites. After the late Assyrians wiped out a lot of people in the region, the neo-Babylonian empire came in and conquered the land. The deported ones (to Babylonian cities) finally came back to the hill country of Levant and wrote their “history” (most of the OT) to fill in what was needed to justify the ruling parties. This is what the real history books will tell you, while the rabidly religious keep to their myths.

It’s really hard to convince fundamentalists of this, of course.

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:37:28pm
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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:38:28pm

Scaramucci: I want to fucking kill all the leakers

Would that be considered a death threat? Perhaps he should check with his FBI buddies…

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:38:43pm

re: #158 Stanley Sea

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:39:21pm

re: #130 EPR-radar

What is this “otherwise admirable character and intelligence” nonsense? Any such people that were Republicans in the past have left the party by now.

politics has long since stopped being a clash of value systems, each of which is in some way valid; a competition between basically well-intentioned people who see the world differently

it has become, not even a conflict of interests, but instead a degenerative, brutal struggle for power in which one side with righteous indignation believes only the other is and can be capable of behaving despicably

while they themselves hold both houses and the oval office and try to ram through odious legislation using every trick they can think of because even their own party does not enthusiastically support *literally* cause physical and financial harm to millions

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:40:02pm

re: #147 makeitstop

Geez.

I always thought that Trump would be the one who would suffer physical effects from working in the White House. But this guy sounds like he’s gonna pop a vein any minute now.

Working in the Trump White House as a media person must be like being the drummer in Spinal Tap.

“Poof” …and there goes Spicer.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:40:30pm

re: #161 BeachDem

He’s like a not-very-bright mini-mobster.

Fredo? Carlo? Little Carmine? Billy Leotardo? Morrie?

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CongoJack  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:41:25pm

re: #166 Scottish Dragon

Epic.

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:42:06pm

re: #163 ObserverArt

What in holy hell are the Republican Senators doing???

I’m watching these four knuckleheads going on and on and all I see is an admittance they have no idea what they are voting on but they want to vote on it.

pack of dogs catch car…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:42:15pm

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:43:43pm

re: #174 The Vicious Babushka

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:45:08pm

What the GOP senators are doing is playing hot potato. They know Trump will go nuclear if they can’t get something passed and no one wants to be the poor bastard who takes the blame for it.

They’re more concerned about their own re-election chances than helping the country.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:45:43pm

re: #166 Scottish Dragon

Good for you! Too bad twitter means he doesn’t have to answer your questions face-to-face (or even at all.)

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:47:32pm

re: #176 Eclectic Cyborg

What the GOP senators are doing is playing hot potato. They know Trump will go nuclear if they can’t get something passed and no one wants to be the poor bastard who takes the blame for it.

They’re more concerned about their own re-election chances than helping the country.

job before party
party before country

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:48:47pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

I’m pretty sure we are a rube-nation.

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:51:15pm

Chuckels Todd is going to talk about the Scaramucci interview next if anyone is interested.

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freetoken  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:51:19pm

re: #179 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

In the fight between @SecretaryPerry and climate scientists — He’s winning

So much winning.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:51:33pm

re: #148 Scottish Dragon

The movie ‘Dunkirk’ is a metaphor for the #BenedictOption. If you mistakenly think I advocate surrender, read this:

Let me guess, we’re the Nazis in this telling, right?

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freetoken  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:52:04pm

You do realize that DOE tweet was written for Trump to read and feel good about himself.

So very much winning.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:52:28pm
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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:53:23pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

Man, the Mooch is as certifiable as trump himself. That was a terrifying article when you consider it’s from someone in government.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:53:41pm

re: #165 freetoken

There was no invasion of the “Promised Land” by Israelites coming from Egypt.

Archeology informs us that the upland Semitic inhabitants didn’t like pigs, while those on the coast did. This was one of the differentiators that passed down through time. The coastal lowland folk ate shellfish, so of course the highland people used that too to differentiate themselves.
This is how culture works to separate people.

The upland people eventually become known as the Judahites, while the lowland folk by the sea became known as the Canaanites. After the late Assyrians wiped out a lot of people in the region, the neo-Babylonian empire came in and conquered the land. The deported ones (to Babylonian cities) finally came back to the hill country of Levant and wrote their “history” (most of the OT) to fill in what was needed to justify the ruling parties. This is what the real history books will tell you, while the rabidly religious keep to their myths.

It’s really hard to convince fundamentalists of this, of course.

Scientific archaeology and and human genomics are of the Devil, y’know.

I came across a YT video that tried to offer “scientific” evidence that the Red Sea parted to allow Moses to cross. I did not watch it, as I value my brain matter.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:54:56pm
Scaramucci said. He channelled Priebus as he spoke: ” ‘Oh, Bill Shine is coming in. Let me leak the fucking thing and see if I can cock-block these people the way I cock-blocked Scaramucci for six months.’ ” (Priebus did not respond to a request for comment.)

“Fuck” and “cock” coming out of the WH. From the new guy no less. My god.

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:56:43pm

re: #179 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

[Embedded content]in the fight between @SecretaryPerry and climate scientists — He’s winning thehill.com

its the wrong frame
winning? winning what?

a much quicker destruction of the planet?

arguing about why the fire started instead of containing it

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CongoJack  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:57:56pm

re: #186 wheat-dogg

I’ve read that the “Red Sea parting” was actually the Israelites crossing over the Red Sea (or a smaller sea that they mislabeled as the Red Sea) in a marshy area that was in a flood plain.

Egyptians tried to cross in their chariots. Got bogged down and either the Israelites went back and attacked or the flood up river hit and washed them away.

Either way. No magic spaghetti monster required.

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:58:27pm

re: #185 MsJ

Man, the Mooch is as certifiable as trump himself. That was a terrifying article when you consider it’s from someone in government.

….for like a week

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:59:22pm

re: #188 dangerman

its the wrong frame
winning? winning what?

a much quicker destruction of the planet?

arguing about why the fire started instead of containing it

You should read the RationalWiki article on the quack who wrote the linked opinion piece:
rationalwiki.org

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wheat-dogg  Jul 27, 2017 • 2:59:40pm

re: #165 freetoken

Along the same lines, the official Chinese “policy” on human evolution is that Homo erectus in China evolved into a different strain/breed/line of H. sapiens, rather than H. sapiens migrating into Asia from Africa. That’s to preserve the tradition Chinese attitude that they are the superior culture, which could not possibly have been derived from Africans wandering all over the Asian continent.

Of course, the scientific evidence does not support separate evolution of a Chinese H. sapiens, but that doesn’t stop the government from pushing an incorrect theory.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:00:38pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

In a way, I not surprised by this.
Likely, at least partially delivered, as a response to this

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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:01:11pm

re: #185 MsJ

Man, the Mooch is as certifiable as trump himself. That was a terrifying article when you consider it’s from someone in government.

From “Married to the Mob”

Angela de Marco: God, you people work just like the mob! There’s no difference.

Regional Director Franklin: Oh, there’s a big difference, Mrs. de Marco. The mob is run by murdering, thieving, lying, cheating psychopaths. We work for the President of the United States of America.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:01:16pm
The movie ‘Dunkirk’ is a metaphor for the #BenedictOption.

So who’s running all the motorboats, and what England are they escaping across the channel to?

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whitebeach  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:01:23pm

re: #186 wheat-dogg

Scientific archaeology and and human genomics are of the Devil, y’know.

I came across a YT video that tried to offer “scientific” evidence that the Red Sea parted to allow Moses to cross. I did not watch it, as I value my brain matter.

I’ve actually argued with a couple of fundies who claimed that Tyre no longer existed because some obscure biblical verse said it would be destroyed. It’s the fourth-largest city in Lebanon, with more than a hundred thousand people, and a major seaport, for Christ’s sake. It’s right there right now. But religion.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:03:16pm

re: #196 whitebeach

I’ve actually argued with a couple of fundies who claimed that Tyre no longer existed because some obscure biblical verse said it would be destroyed. It’s the fourth-largest city in Lebanon, with more than a hundred thousand people, and a major seaport, for Christ’s sake. It’s right there right now. But religion.

There’s believing in religious stories written about an ancient past that is sparsely documented (relatively speaking), and there’s being a dumbass.

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William Lewis  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:03:51pm

re: #166 Scottish Dragon

He was not worth the service of any human being that has ever worn an American uniform. Thank god there are so many others that are worth the time & sacrifices of those who lived - and those who died - in the service of this nation. I will never regret taking the President’s dollar even when it was Reagan or Bush the Lesser because of my son & the rest of the good ones, but I will never respect the fools like the one you quote.

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scottslemmons  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:05:39pm

re: #161 BeachDem

He’s like a not-very-bright mini-mobster.

Like the big-talking goon who gets impressed with his own patter and a brief upnod from the Boss and thinks he’s about to take over the operation.

“Hey, Big Sal ain’t so big, more like Little Sally. He better stay outta my way or I’ll give him the bada-bing!”

(Cut to: Two nights later, and the PD fishing his corpse out of the river.)

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:08:01pm
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whitebeach  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:08:10pm

re: #194 BeachDem

From “Married to the Mob”

Angela de Marco: God, you people work just like the mob! There’s no difference.

Regional Director Franklin: Oh, there’s a big difference, Mrs. de Marco. The mob is run by murdering, thieving, lying, cheating psychopaths. We work for the President of the United States of America.

From The Godfather (maybe not quoting exactly, but close enough):

Kay Corleone: The President of the United States doesn’t have people killed, Michael.

Michael Corleone: Now who’s being naive, Kay?

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:10:29pm

re: #191 Timothy Watson

You should read the RationalWiki article on the quack who wrote the linked opinion piece:
rationalwiki.org

only took a minute

this is the bigger problem. every new crackpot theory gets instant legitimacy. Theyre at the table and now we have to —yes have to —get them back out the door. They dont belong.

debating junk science gives it a platform of legitimacy and license for the next nuttery.
we give them an ounce of respectability and then dont hold them accountable as the charlatans and liars they are

i dont need to debate “all sides of an issue”. because they arent doing science. they are doing rhetorical trickery or outright deception. they are deliberate and calculated.

If they want a seat, to be serious in the discussions, then learn the science, or the math. Then *do* the science or math. Prove your point - the same way everyone else has to. THEN publish it, let it be opened up to be torn apart, replicated, verified, peer reviewed etc.

you earn a seat - like you earn respect.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:15:49pm

re: #184 FormerDirtDart

Dude, you used to work in Congress. You’re smarter than this.

Sirota is really not smarter than that.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:16:44pm

Working in Congress doesn’t seem to be any special measure of smarts.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:17:14pm

“The Gohmert Rule.”

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:17:55pm

re: #174 The Vicious Babushka

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:18:23pm

“Mom, the television is spelling lots of words with dashes today.”

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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:19:12pm

re: #203 Charles Johnson

Sirota is really not smarter than that.

And Weigel is not much at judging character.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:19:42pm

re: #203 Charles Johnson

Sirota is really not smarter than that.

In the language of our times…

[Ron Howard Voice] He’s not.[/Ron Howard Voice]

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Stanley Sea  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:20:44pm

re: #207 jaunte

[Embedded content]

“Mom, the television is spelling lots of words with dashes today.”

It w beuiu eybor ti broen

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:21:42pm

re: #207 jaunte

[Embedded content]

“Mom, the television is spelling lots of words with dashes today.”

I’d like to buy a “U”.

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:22:15pm

re: #176 Eclectic Cyborg

They’re more concerned about their own re-election chances than helping the country.

They’ve all maneuvered themselves into a position where they get to pick their poison.

A. Don’t pass anything and face getting primaried by a TrumpBot, or
B. Pass a bill that will probably deprive his constituents of any type of quality health care and face the voters kicking them out of office.

Either way, they’re pretty screwed.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:22:17pm

re: #211 Decatur Deb

I’d like to buy a “U”.

None available - he’s speaking Welsh.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:22:42pm

re: #207 jaunte

[Embedded content]

“Mom, the television is spelling lots of words with dashes today.”

Shall we start a pool guessing how much time it will take for Franky Graham Cracker to say Jesus forgives the Mooch?????

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:23:10pm

re: #213 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

None available - he’s speaking Welsh.

Looked Scottish to me.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:23:24pm

re: #214 Joe Bacon 🌹

He’ll just blame CNN.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:28:22pm

This is fucking nuts. Senators trying to pass a bill that they KNOW is awful, that they DO NOT want to become law, on the condition that the House promises not to pass the same bill.

And the response from the House? “We’ll see.”

Why not 1) spend some time in committee working on something, or 2) re-pass the ACA, but call it Trumpcare - I guarantee he’ll sign it - or 3) give up?>

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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:28:42pm

re: #214 Joe Bacon 🌹

Shall we start a pool guessing how much time it will take for Franky Graham Cracker to say Jesus forgives the Mooch?????

I don’t know—Scaramucci has made a point of saying he’s Catholic.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:30:04pm

re: #217 Blind Frog Belly White

[Embedded content]

This is fucking nuts. Senators trying to pass a bill that they KNOW is awful, that they DO NOT want to become law, on the condition that the House promises not to pass the same bill.

And the response from the House? “We’ll see.”

Why not 1) spend some time in committee working on something, or 2) re-pass the ACA, but call it Trumpcare - I guarantee he’ll sign it - or 3) give up?>

At what point does simple shame kick in?

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:30:10pm

re: #217 Blind Frog Belly White

[Embedded content]

This is fucking nuts. Senators trying to pass a bill that they KNOW is awful, that they DO NOT want to become law, on the condition that the House promises not to pass the same bill.

And the response from the House? “We’ll see.”

Why not 1) spend some time in committee working on something, or 2) re-pass the ACA, but call it Trumpcare - I guarantee he’ll sign it - or 3) give up?>

Or, and I know this is a radical idea…. JUST. VOTE. NO.

But that’s too much to ask, I guess.

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majii  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:30:34pm

re: #216 jaunte

“He’ll just blame CNN.:

Dave Brat blamed “the media” for Trump’s public attacks on Sessions. This is what members of the “Party of Responsibility” do nowadays. Nothing is ever their fault.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:32:57pm

re: #221 majii

And that’s exactly why the House and Senate are playing hot potato with the healthcare bill. Nobody wants to fucking take responsibility for anything.

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Kragar  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:34:08pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:36:20pm

Wow. Lawrence O’Donnell is on Ari Melber’s new show and just said Scaramucci is a dangerous mentally ill individual and should never be let near the White House.

Also…Lawrence said he is trying to see if he can get Joe Pesci on his show tonight so he can do a dramatic reading of Scaramucci’s interview answers.

I hope that works out…sure to be a classic. Come on Joe, get with Lawrence please.

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Jay C  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:37:33pm

re: #219 Decatur Deb

At what point does simple shame kick in?

For Republicans in Congress?

Never?

SATSQ.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:37:51pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:38:08pm

Sure, I’ll egg him on!

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KGxvi  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:38:47pm

re: #220 sagehen

Or, and I know this is a radical idea…. JUST. VOTE. NO.

But that’s too much to ask, I guess.

I just saw this vaudeville routine they’re doing now. I just don’t get it. “We don’t like this bill, in fact, we think it’s terrible, but we’ll vote for it if you promise not to pass it.”

Fucking cowards.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:38:59pm

re: #226 FormerDirtDart

I guarantee you Trump will veto that shit…and probably blow a gasket if they override him and do it anyway.

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Kragar  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:40:47pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:40:47pm

re: #228 KGxvi

I just saw this vaudeville routine they’re doing now. I just don’t get it. “We don’t like this bill, in fact, we think it’s terrible, but we’ll vote for it if you promise not to pass it.”

Fucking cowards.

This is related to how we ended up with Trump, isn’t it.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:41:26pm
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Kragar  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:42:25pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:43:37pm

re: #232 Stanley Sea

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Good help is hard to find.

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:44:17pm

Ari has a linguistics professor on now and he is explaining Trump speak. Pretty interesting.

He just said when you hear Trump says The American People he is talking about Trump supporters, his base.

So, when you hear Trump say “these leaks are hurting America or the American people he is saying they are hurting Trumps supporters and they know that and that is why they support Trump.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:45:10pm

We are literally watching the Government of the United States fall apart before our eyes.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:45:10pm

re: #229 Eclectic Cyborg

I guarantee you Trump will veto that shit…and probably blow a gasket if they override him and do it anyway.

With the House 419-3 and Senate 98-2, the only barrier to 2/3 override is the republicans willingness to honor their previous vote.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:45:54pm

re: #226 FormerDirtDart

Imagine my utter shock and disbelief at those two voting no.

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:46:05pm

re: #222 Eclectic Cyborg

And that’s exactly why the House and Senate are playing hot potato with the healthcare bill. Nobody wants to fucking take responsibility for anything.

because as public policy it sucks

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KGxvi  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:46:22pm

re: #226 FormerDirtDart

In fairness to Sanders, a few weeks ago, he voted for the amendment that added Russian sanctions to the bill, but voted against the final bill because it included sanctions against Iran that he worried would undermine the Iranian nuclear deal.

Paul just doesn’t think the sanctions are worth anything, apparently.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:46:46pm

Senate just sent Russian sanctions bill to Trump’s desk. I wouldn’t be surprised if he weasels out of it by vetoing because “It’s not tough enough!!!”.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:46:49pm

So Ohio’s Kasich just said of that State Fair disaster: “We’re looking for guarantees in life, they don’t exist” as he talked about risk on those rides.

Who wants to ride on a carnival ride now?

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:48:02pm

re: #236 Eclectic Cyborg

We are literally watching the Government of the United States fall apart before our eyes.

thats a maybe

what is sure is we are watching the republicans prove they cant govern or legislate

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:48:28pm

re: #217 Blind Frog Belly White

[Embedded content]

This is fucking nuts. Senators trying to pass a bill that they KNOW is awful, that they DO NOT want to become law, on the condition that the House promises not to pass the same bill.

And the response from the House? “We’ll see.”

Why not 1) spend some time in committee working on something, or 2) re-pass the ACA, but call it Trumpcare - I guarantee he’ll sign it - or 3) give up?>

They want their vacation and they want it now.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:49:04pm

re: #238 Myron Falwell

Imagine my utter shock and disbelief at those two voting no.

////

You forgot something. 😁

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:49:34pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:51:02pm

re: #236 Eclectic Cyborg

We are literally watching the Government of the United States fall apart before our eyes.

We should have expected that—there were parts left out.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:51:12pm

In yet other news, Trump told folks in Upstate New York that they should move, leave their homes and families behind, to go where the jobs are.

What’s especially funny about this is that one of the best predictors of Trump support is living within a few miles of where you grew up. Makes sense, right? Trump wasn’t just promising that he’d bring back jobs. He promised to bring back the specific jobs that went away.

Now? ‘Get off your asses and go find the jobs!’

Meanwhile, the other day, Trump was telling folks in Ohio (I think) that all the empty factories were gonna come back and they should just stay where they are, because “we’re gonna bring it all back.”

How fucking stupid do you have to be, exactly, to believe ANYTHING that man says?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:51:22pm

Jesus.

US Warns Syrian coalition to only fight ISIS and not Assad’s forces.

bbc.com

So, if Assad’s forces attack coalition forces, they should just stand there and take it?

Damn. Putin, you magnificent bastard. You got us real good.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:51:24pm

re: #232 Stanley Sea

Yes, because isolating and firing the only competent people who wanted to work for you is always a winning strategy.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:52:22pm
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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:53:19pm

re: #248 Blind Frog Belly White

In yet other news, Trump told folks in Upstate New York that they should move, leave their homes and families behind, to go where the jobs are.

What’s especially funny about this is that one of the best predictors of Trump support is living within a few miles of where you grew up. Makes sense, right? Trump wasn’t just promising that he’d bring back jobs. He promised to bring back the specific jobs that went away.

Now? ‘Get off your asses and go find the jobs!’

Meanwhile, the other day, Trump was telling folks in Ohio (I think) that all the empty factories were gonna come back and they should just stay where they are, because “we’re gonna bring it all back.”

How fucking stupid do you have to be, exactly, to believe ANYTHING that man says?

Trump and his pals are in the market and they’re looking for rock bottom prices.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:54:51pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:56:02pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:56:08pm

re: #242 MsJ

So Ohio’s Kasich just said of that State Fair disaster: “We’re looking for guarantees in life, they don’t exist” as he talked about risk on those rides.

Who wants to ride on a carnival ride now?

I gave them up in 1974. I went to the Lion’s Fair with two friends. When we rode The Octopus, it went so fast, it was only the substantial size of my companions that I was wedged between that kept me in the spinning thing we were sitting in, instead of flinging me by centrifugal force out of it like it did the glasses off of one friend’s face.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:56:42pm

re: #253 FormerDirtDart

Rand Paul said no one has died in America in “hundreds of years” from lack of access to health care.

Keep in mind that he is the Senator representing Gullet Gap, Blaine, and Hazard KY.

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majii  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:57:14pm

re: #241 GlutenFreeJesus

“Senate just sent Russian sanctions bill to Trump’s desk. I wouldn’t be surprised if he weasels out of it by vetoing because “It’s not tough enough!!!”.”

We’re now on Twitter Watch. I’m wondering how long it will be before he takes to Twitter to blast congress-members for hurting his bromance with Putti.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:57:46pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:58:25pm

re: #253 FormerDirtDart

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O_o

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Myron Falwell  Jul 27, 2017 • 3:58:32pm

re: #248 Blind Frog Belly White

How fucking stupid do you have to be, exactly, to believe ANYTHING that man says?

There’s no limit whatsoever on stupid in the Republican Party.

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Jay C  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:00:20pm

re: #248 Blind Frog Belly White

In yet other news, Trump told folks in Upstate New York that they should move, leave their homes and families behind, to go where the jobs are.

What’s especially funny about this is that one of the best predictors of Trump support is living within a few miles of where you grew up. Makes sense, right? Trump wasn’t just promising that he’d bring back jobs. He promised to bring back the specific jobs that went away.

Now? ‘Get off your asses and go find the jobs!’

Meanwhile, the other day, Trump was telling folks in Ohio (I think) that all the empty factories were gonna come back and they should just stay where they are, because “we’re gonna bring it all back.”

How fucking stupid do you have to be, exactly, to believe ANYTHING that man says?

To be accurate, I think Trump told the people in upstate New York that they should specifically move to Wisconsin, since that’s “where the jobs are”, or supposed to be. I’m guessing the comment was a generalized dig at The Cheeto’s “home” state*: - iow, Wisconsin has a Republican administration, therefore has to be some sort of economic Utopia, New York is a hellhole of high taxes, welfare cheats and libruls in general, so obviously no opportunities there…..
Probably wrong on all counts, but consider the source….

* the most agonizing moral decision many New Yorkers would have to deal with would be drinking too much, having to pee REALLY badly, and then going into the bathroom and finding Donald Trump on fire…

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majii  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:00:23pm

re: #242 MsJ

“Who wants to ride on a carnival ride now?”

I stay off the d*mn things, and the major reason is that I live in a red state where GOP pols seem to think no regulations = good for business and citizens. I’m not sure the d*mn rides have been properly inspected. We had a serious accident at Six Flags Over GA a few years ago. Iirc, the accident happened on a Batman ride.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:01:32pm

re: #258 FormerDirtDart

I am very impressed with Mooch’s ability to self-immolate as fast as he has.

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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:01:32pm

re: #253 FormerDirtDart

[Rand Paul said no one has died in America in “hundreds of years” from lack of access to health care]

He doesn’t count women. He doesn’t count the maternal death rate in Texas.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:02:36pm

re: #248 Blind Frog Belly White

In yet other news, Trump told folks in Upstate New York that they should move, leave their homes and families behind, to go where the jobs are.

What’s especially funny about this is that one of the best predictors of Trump support is living within a few miles of where you grew up. Makes sense, right? Trump wasn’t just promising that he’d bring back jobs. He promised to bring back the specific jobs that went away.

Now? ‘Get off your asses and go find the jobs!’

Meanwhile, the other day, Trump was telling folks in Ohio (I think) that all the empty factories were gonna come back and they should just stay where they are, because “we’re gonna bring it all back.”

How fucking stupid do you have to be, exactly, to believe ANYTHING that man says?

I would argue these people are predisposed to want an authority figure (a male one) to tell them everything will be OK, because he will make it happen. A father figure, IOW. They don’t understand the complexities of business or economics, so they don’t understand why those factory jobs are gone forever. So, when Trump says he can fix it, they believe him because they want to believe. To do otherwise means they have to accept the grim reality that they are SOL, or (Dog forbid) could have voted for a woman.

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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:04:39pm

re: #265 wheat-dogg

I would argue these people are predisposed to want an authority figure (a male one) to tell them everything will be OK, because he will make it happen. A father figure, IOW. They don’t understand the complexities of business or economics, so they don’t understand why those factory jobs are gone forever. So, when Trump says he can fix it, they believe him because they want to believe. To do otherwise means they have to accept the grim reality that they are SOL, or (Dog forbid) have voted for a woman.

Everybody has a line they will not cross.

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:05:32pm

I’ve seen a few people today say Scaramucci is not even an official hire at the White House yet. Anyone know if that is true and if it is what the fuck???

It almost seems like someone told Trump he had to use The Mooch to clean-up a bit.

A hit man.

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:06:47pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:09:55pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:10:01pm

re: #267 ObserverArt

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:10:49pm
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Myron Falwell  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:10:57pm

re: #267 ObserverArt

I’ve seen a few people today say Scaramucci is not even an official hire at the White House yet. Anyone know if that is true and if it is what the fuck???

It almost seems like some one told Trump he had to use THe Mooch to clean-up a bit.

A hit man.

If this is the best hit man Trump could get, then the only people dying will be due to excessive laughter.

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majii  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:11:36pm

re: #265 wheat-dogg

“So, when Trump says he can fix it, they believe him because they want to believe. To do otherwise means they have to accept the grim reality that they are SOL, or (Dog forbid) could have voted for a woman.”

I have zero sympathy for them because grown folk should be able to separate facts from BS. They didn’t do their research, and now that Trump is proving himself to be an empty, foul-mouthed, pus-filled, gasbag, they should not be surprised.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:12:09pm

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:13:11pm

re: #265 wheat-dogg

I would argue these people are predisposed to want an authority figure (a male one) to tell them everything will be OK, because he will make it happen. A father figure, IOW. They don’t understand the complexities of business or economics, so they don’t understand why those factory jobs are gone forever. So, when Trump says he can fix it, they believe him because they want to believe. To do otherwise means they have to accept the grim reality that they are SOL, or (Dog forbid) have voted for a woman.

There’s a lot of irony here, like these folks are quick to bitch about other people being ‘entitled’, but they feel they are entitled to a good job in their hometowns.

And they see themselves as the ‘REAL Americans’, whereas the ones they deride as ‘snowflakes’ are much more likely to have left their homes behind to make a better life for themselves - you know, kinda like the folks who built America?

But leaving aside kicking people while they’re down for just a moment, think about it - a lot of these folks saw the factories leaving and hunkered down, staying put as their prospects dwindled and with them their bank accounts and their home values. Trump told them he’d make it all better and in their desperation, they believed him.

Now he tells them their hometowns are dead, and they should all move.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:14:08pm
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Jack Burton  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:14:20pm

re: #271 teleskiguy

Do they really think that legalizing MJ caused masses of people who didn’t use it before to start? That’s some weapons-grade stupid there.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:14:28pm

GIF not for the squeamish. lol

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:15:17pm

re: #271 teleskiguy

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Jesus, dude! You could have just used a .410! You’ll save a lot on shells!

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wheat-dogg  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:15:50pm

re: #277 Jack Burton

Do they really think that legalizing MJ caused masses of people who didn’t use it before to start? That’s some weapons-grade stupid there.

Sex ed leads to teenage orgies and touch dancing.

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KGxvi  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:16:20pm

re: #276 Dr. Matt

Personally, I think the Trump Administration and all the bullshit that comes with it calls for basic cable channels to start using premium cable channel words.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:16:26pm

re: #277 Jack Burton

Cannabis use rates have declined among adolescents since legalization, as well as alcohol.

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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:16:52pm

re: #275 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s a lot of irony here, like these folks are quick to bitch about other people being ‘entitled’, but they feel they are entitled to a good job in their hometowns.

And they see themselves as the ‘REAL Americans’, whereas the ones they deride as ‘snowflakes’ are much more likely to have left their homes behind to make a better life for themselves - you know, kinda like the folks who built America?

But leaving aside kicking people while they’re down for just a moment, think about it - a lot of these folks saw the factories leaving and hunkered down, staying put as their prospects dwindled and with them their bank accounts and their home values. Trump told them he’d make it all better and in their desperation, they believed him.

Now he tells them their hometowns are dead, and they should all move.

The lack of departures can be seen as a Darwinian filter. Those who could discern the facts got out long ago. Those who remain got caught in the filter, and are still caught..

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:17:34pm

re: #279 Blind Frog Belly White

Jesus, dude! You could have just used a .410! You’ll save a lot on shells!

12-gauge slugs are the only things that will truly take out a cannabis-crazed zombie.

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KGxvi  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:19:14pm

re: #277 Jack Burton

Do they really think that legalizing MJ caused masses of people who didn’t use it before to start? That’s some weapons-grade stupid there.

I would guess that legalization has led to a few more people using. People who might have used in the past but didn’t have a connection who could now get it very easily. I’d probably be in that category once legalization comes through in California. I never really had a hook up in my younger days, just knew lots of people who had hook ups, so the opportunities haven’t been what there were.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:19:28pm

re: #275 Blind Frog Belly White

…snip
But leaving aside kicking people while they’re down for just a moment, think about it - a lot of these folks saw the factories leaving and hunkered down, staying put as their prospects dwindled and with them their bank accounts and their home values. Trump told them he’d make it all better and in their desperation, they believed him.

Now he tells them their hometowns are dead, and they should all move.

“They need U-Hauls.”
Sam K

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:19:48pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:20:05pm

re: #283 wrenchwench

The lack of departures can be seen as a Darwinian filter. Those who could discern the facts got out long ago. Those who remain got caught in the filter, and are still caught..

Indeed.

And, you know, I’m not heartless. I understand how hard it can be to leave behind the place you grew up, the people you know, and go where you don’t know a single soul, to take a job.

But the REASON I know how hard it is to do is because I did it.

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Jack Burton  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:20:27pm

re: #285 KGxvi

I would guess that legalization has led to a few more people using. People who might have used in the past but didn’t have a connection who could now get it very easily. I’d probably be in that category once legalization comes through in California. I never really had a hook up in my younger days, just knew lots of people who had hook ups, so the opportunities haven’t been what there were.

I’m sure, but I don’t believe this is millions and millions of people in this category. That’s just stretching the bounds of reason.

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Broad With Sass  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:20:29pm

re: #276 Dr. Matt

Tweety just apologized for the lack of censoring

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majii  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:20:44pm

re: #277 Jack Burton

“Do they really think that legalizing MJ caused masses of people who didn’t use it before to start? That’s some weapons-grade stupid there.”

It sure is, and it’s an example of the thinking processes of lazy people. We’ve had the lottery here in GA for @ 20 years, but I don’t play, and there are liquor stores throughout the state, but I’m not an alcoholic. Although MJ is illegal in GA, I know people that sell it, but I don’t smoke it. Some persons just love thinking that if a certain thing is permitted, all others will abuse it or begin using it. Not true.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:20:56pm

re: #281 KGxvi

Personally, I think the Trump Administration and all the bullshit that comes with it calls for basic cable channels to start using premium cable channel words.

Chris Matthews just issued an apology for airing Mooch’s uncensored statement. Just let that sink in.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:21:20pm

re: #195 jaunte

So who’s running all the motorboats, and what England are they escaping across the channel to?

They sure as hell aren’t welcome in the real England.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:22:07pm

re: #284 teleskiguy

12-gauge slugs are the only things that will truly take out a cannabis-crazed zombie.

You say that, but have you TRIED 00 buckshot?

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:22:46pm

re: #276 Dr. Matt

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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:22:52pm

re: #288 Blind Frog Belly White

Indeed.

And, you know, I’m not heartless. I understand how hard it can be to leave behind the place you grew up, the people you know, and go where you don’t know a single soul, to take a job.

But the REASON I know how hard it is to do is because I did it.

It is a hard road. Or a ship. Mr. w joined the Navy to get out.

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:23:16pm

re: #292 Dr. Matt

Chris Matthews just issued an apology for airing Mooch’s uncensored statement. Just let that sink in.

All because of doing coverage of the White House.

We need to let that sink in too.

And people said Lyndon Johnson was rude and crude.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:23:37pm
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KGxvi  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:24:06pm

re: #275 Blind Frog Belly White

But leaving aside kicking people while they’re down for just a moment, think about it - a lot of these folks saw the factories leaving and hunkered down, staying put as their prospects dwindled and with them their bank accounts and their home values. Trump told them he’d make it all better and in their desperation, they believed him.

Now he tells them their hometowns are dead, and they should all move.

The longer they stay, the harder it is to leave. If everyone is leaving and the town is dying, then there’s nobody to buy your house. For someone who is a homeowner, the bit of money they’d get from a sale would at least give them a nest egg to help start over in a new town (a way to cover rent and utilities while you search for a new job).

And that’s the other thing, it’s hard to get a (nonprofessional) job when you don’t live in the area. You submit an application or resume and the address you give is a two hour flight away, it’s hard to imagine it’s going to get past the first screening.

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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:24:12pm

re: #275 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s a lot of irony here, like these folks are quick to bitch about other people being ‘entitled’, but they feel they are entitled to a good job in their hometowns.

And they see themselves as the ‘REAL Americans’, whereas the ones they deride as ‘snowflakes’ are much more likely to have left their homes behind to make a better life for themselves - you know, kinda like the folks who built America?

But leaving aside kicking people while they’re down for just a moment, think about it - a lot of these folks saw the factories leaving and hunkered down, staying put as their prospects dwindled and with them their bank accounts and their home values. Trump told them he’d make it all better and in their desperation, they believed him.

Now he tells them their hometowns are dead, and they should all move.

If they’d only listened to Bruce in fucking 1984.

Bruce Springsteen - My Hometown

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:24:36pm

re: #298 goddamnedfrank

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To be fair, she also reposted this today, with a note that she knew everyone would ding her on this.

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KGxvi  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:26:23pm

re: #289 Jack Burton

I’m sure, but I don’t believe this is millions and millions of people in this category. That’s just stretching the bounds of reason.

Few hundred, maybe thousand, would be my guess. Most people currently using were probably previously using. Much like how it was when the 21st Amendment was ratified.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:26:26pm

re: #294 Blind Frog Belly White

You say that, but have you TRIED 00 buckshot?

That would probably work better when there’s hordes of stoner zombies, but I live in a rural area, so I don’t see the types of mass incidences of zonked out whacky tobacky zombie riots that happen in, say, Denver.

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:27:42pm
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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:27:47pm

re: #298 goddamnedfrank

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Fluffer-in-chief, Maggie explains it thusly—

Yeah, Mags, nobody had every heard your friend “Mooch” talk before July 21.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:28:47pm

re: #299 KGxvi

The longer they stay, the harder it is to leave. If everyone is leaving and the town is dying, then there’s nobody to buy your house. For someone who is a homeowner, the bit of money they’d get from a sale would at least give them a nest egg to help start over in a new town (a way to cover rent and utilities while you search for a new job).

And that’s the other thing, it’s hard to get a (nonprofessional) job when you don’t live in the area. You submit an application or resume and the address you give is a two hour flight away, it’s hard to imagine it’s going to get past the first screening.

Exactly. How are you supposed to do this, anyway? Send Dad to Wisconsin while Mom and the kids pack up in hopes? Where’s Dad staying? What’s Dad give as an address? You KNOW Foxconn isn’t gonna pay moving expenses, and if all the unemployed Dads in Upstate NY are all camping in Wisconsin applying for jobs, they won’t have to pay a hell of a lot, either. Certainly not enough to cover moving.

It’s like in ‘Grapes of Wrath’, when the Joads are reading the flyers, passed out by the thousands, promising good wages for honest work in beautiful California, with the goal of getting a glut of labor so they could pay even less.

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KGxvi  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:29:21pm

re: #292 Dr. Matt

Chris Matthews just issued an apology for airing Mooch’s uncensored statement. Just let that sink in.

That’s just corporate CYA. He probably got a call from a producer who got a call from legal who got a call from someone else upstream, just in case they get a call from the FCC.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:29:35pm
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Myron Falwell  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:31:02pm

re: #307 KGxvi

That’s just corporate CYA. He probably got a call from a producer who got a call from legal who got a call from someone else upstream, just in case they get a call from the FCC.

Even though obscenities are, to the best of my knowledge, permissable on basic cable.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:31:06pm

re: #303 teleskiguy

That would probably work better when there’s hordes of stoner zombies, but I live in a rural area, so I don’t see the types of mass incidences of zonked out whacky tobacky zombie riots that happen in, say, Denver.

I’m hoping that .22LR will work, because then I’d have a whole brick of that to work through before I have to switch to the revolver and the .38 Special.

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EPR-radar  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:32:23pm

re: #222 Eclectic Cyborg

And that’s exactly why the House and Senate are playing hot potato with the healthcare bill. Nobody wants to fucking take responsibility for anything.

Look at that — it turns out that decades of pandering to aggressively stupid bigots for their votes has removed any traces of courage from the Republican party.

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:32:54pm
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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:33:11pm

And all of her great “access” gets Maggie the really important crap like this

Self-love and festivus bullshit aside, who fucking cares, Maggie?

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Jay C  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:34:10pm

re: #297 ObserverArt

And people said Lyndon Johnson was rude and crude.

And they were right: he was. The big difference, though, between LBJ and Trump is that the former knew how to act in “public”: he kept the swearing and dirty language (and Texas-style political thuggery) well off-the grid: and made sure his people did the same: Johnson came from the Old School of politics: the “front” -one’s public reputation and/or image - was everything. Of course, as big a sleaze as LBJ was, he couldn’t hide everything to be sure; but at least he made the effort to keep up a respectable front: Trump doesn’t even bother….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:34:29pm

re: #311 EPR-radar

Look at that — it turns out that decades of pandering to aggressively stupid bigots for their votes has removed any traces of courage from the Republican party.

“The Party of Personal Responsibility”

The “moderates” in the House passed the AHCA, because Ryan promised them they’d fix it in the Senate. Now the “moderates” in the Senate are trying to kick the can back to the House, but only if the House promises not to just kick the can to the President.

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JordanRules  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:34:32pm

re: #313 BeachDem

She’s so wack!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:34:40pm

re: #297 ObserverArt

All because of doing coverage of the White House.

We need to let that sink in too.

And people said Lyndon Johnson was rude and crude.

LBJ was Mr. Rogers compared to these Trumpholes!

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KGxvi  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:34:45pm

re: #309 Myron Falwell

Even though obscenities are, to the best of my knowledge, permissable on basic cable.

True, but consider how often they still bleep them, even on things like the Daily Show that’s on during the safe harbor.

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KingKenrod  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:35:20pm

re: #313 BeachDem

And all of her great “access” gets Maggie the really important crap like this

[Embedded content]

Self-love and festivus bullshit aside, who fucking cares, Maggie?

She’s such a weasel.

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:35:21pm
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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:36:59pm

re: #305 BeachDem

Fluffer-in-chief, Maggie explains it thusly—

[Embedded content]

Yeah, Mags, nobody had every heard your friend “Mooch” talk before July 21.

Was it you with whom I was discussing good old Maggie the other night? If so…

I’m sorry. I will defer to your wisdom in the future. She’s a tool and you were right.

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:37:16pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:37:32pm

re: #317 Joe Bacon 🌹

LBJ was Mr. Rogers compared to these Trumpholes!

LBJ grabbed a doggo [by the ears], not a pussy.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:39:15pm

re: #323 wrenchwench

LBJ grabbed a doggo [by the ears], not a pussy.

He did flaunt “Jumbo” from time to time.

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EPR-radar  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:39:28pm

re: #281 KGxvi

Personally, I think the Trump Administration and all the bullshit that comes with it calls for basic cable channels to start using premium cable channel words.

It is impossible to adequately describe motherfucking Republicans without the use of colorful language, unless the happy day comes when “Republican” is finally recognized as the greatest obscenity of all.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:39:34pm

re: #253 FormerDirtDart

andrew kaczynski 🤔 ✔ @KFILE
Rand Paul said no one has died in America in “hundreds of years” from lack of access to health care.cnn.compic.twitter.com

Representative Raul Labrador made a similar claim a couple months ago; did Rand Paul actually say this too?

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:39:38pm

re: #309 Myron Falwell

Even though obscenities are, to the best of my knowledge, permissable on basic cable.

I’ve never seen MSNBC on basic cable. It’s always a paid option.

I believe USA Network is on basic and they swear all the time.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:40:17pm

re: #327 MsJ

I’ve never seen MSNBC on basic cable. It’s always a paid option.

I believe USA Network is on basic and they swear all the time.

Fuckin’ A.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:42:12pm

re: #318 KGxvi

True, but consider how often they still bleep them, even on things like the Daily Show that’s on during the safe harbor.

The Daily Show also airs on over-the-air television in Canada (either CTV or CTV two), so there’s that. Plus the bleeped obscenities are part of the joke.

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Jay C  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:43:16pm

re: #324 teleskiguy

He did flaunt “Jumbo” from time to time.

Another Presidential precedent Donald Trump is unlikely to be able to follow…..

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:44:04pm

re: #325 EPR-radar

It is impossible to adequately describe motherfucking Republicans without the use of colorful language, unless the happy day comes when “Republican” is finally recognized as the greatest obscenity of all.

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:45:04pm

re: #314 Jay C

And they were right: he was. The big difference, though, between LBJ and Trump is that the former knew how to act in “public”: he kept the swearing and dirty language (and Texas-style political thuggery) well off-the grid: and made sure his people did the same: Johnson came from the Old School of politics: the “front” -one’s public reputation and/or image - was everything. Of course, as big a sleaze as LBJ was, he couldn’t hide everything to be sure; but at least he made the effort to keep up a respectable front: Trump doesn’t even bother….

he adhered to the conventional and institutional behavior

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:45:30pm

It’s worth noting that one of the key elements of ‘The Song Of Ice And Fire’ will turn out to be how all the lords of the Seven Kingdoms have been wasting their time, people, and resources fighting each other and making themselves vulnerable to attack by an outside force from a very cold place.

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EPR-radar  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:45:37pm

re: #330 Jay C

Another Presidential precedent Donald Trump is unlikely to be able to follow…..

I’d like to see tr*mp become convinced this would be a presidential thing to do, and get busted for using a prop.

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petesh  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:45:40pm

re: #332 dangerman

he adhered to the conventional and institutional behavior

He at least knew what it was.

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Renaissance_Man  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:46:10pm

re: #331 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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I now use ‘presidential’ as an insult. As in, when someone is being a douche in public, or rude on the internet, or something, ‘that’s very presidential of you’.

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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:47:00pm

re: #321 MsJ

Was it you with whom I was discussing good old Maggie the other night? If so…

I’m sorry. I will defer to your wisdom in the future. She’s a tool and you were right.

It was—we agreed to disagree. (But I did point out that Maggie has a long history as a tool.)

I have paid really close attention to her bullshit for a long time.

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EPR-radar  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:48:09pm

re: #333 Blind Frog Belly White

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It’s worth noting that one of the key elements of ‘The Song Of Ice And Fire’ will turn out to be how all the lords of the Seven Kingdoms have been wasting their time, people, and resources fighting each other and making themselves vulnerable to attack by an outside force from a very cold place.

The more cynical view is that after enough fat books of endless human vs. human perfidy and treachery, everyone will be rooting for the White Walkers to win.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:49:00pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:52:58pm
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wheat-dogg  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:53:26pm

re: #333 Blind Frog Belly White

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It’s worth noting that one of the key elements of ‘The Song Of Ice And Fire’ will turn out to be how all the lords of the Seven Kingdoms have been wasting their time, people, and resources fighting each other and making themselves vulnerable to attack by an outside force from a very cold place.

So Putin is really the Ice King

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:54:45pm

re: #338 EPR-radar

The more cynical view is that after enough fat books of endless human vs. human perfidy and treachery, everyone will be rooting for the White Walkers to win.

While providing you with just a few characters you really, really love, so he can kill them, too.

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Bubblehead II  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:55:08pm

New Olberman

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2017 • 4:55:43pm

re: #341 wheat-dogg

So Putin is really the Ice King

The blue eyes are the giveaway.

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Scout  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:02:10pm

re: #340 goddamnedfrank

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Just to be more precise, that tweet should have said “a top official.” Just “top official” by itself makes it look like they’re talking about the No. 1 post.

This guy was up for “the position of assistant secretary of partnership and engagement.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:02:47pm

re: #333 Blind Frog Belly White

[Embedded content]

It’s worth noting that one of the key elements of ‘The Song Of Ice And Fire’ will turn out to be how all the lords of the Seven Kingdoms have been wasting their time, people, and resources fighting each other and making themselves vulnerable to attack by an outside force from a very cold place.

That is one of the highlights of the youtube GOT Honest Trailer for first 3 seasons: the lords of Westeros are ignoring the true threat to the kingdom. The Congressional Republicans certainly don’t appear particularly concerned about the threats to our democracy.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:03:44pm

Vic Berger presents…the stuff of nightmares.

American Horror Story: Pat Robertson Interviews Donald J. Trump

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:03:49pm

re: #339 FormerDirtDart

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And the Post is the pro-Trump NY paper.

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451_Montag  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:03:50pm

And lo, as Jesus suffereth on thine cross, God spake as from the skies “Hey Jesus, stop grandstanding and sucketh thine own cock, thou art a cocksucker”. And Jesus wept, like the pussy he was.

Gospel according to Mooch

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:06:41pm

The Trump Show has been a fun Summer replacement, but I’m ready for the regular season to start.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:08:59pm

re: #350 Decatur Deb

The Trump Show has been a fun Summer replacement, but I’m ready for the regular season to start.

I’m ready for trump et all to go to prison.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:08:59pm

re: #346 Hecuba’s daughter

That is one of the highlights of the youtube GOT Honest Trailer for first 3 seasons: the lords of Westeros are ignoring the true threat to the kingdom. The Congressional Republicans certainly don’t appear particularly concerned about the threats to our democracy.

Apropos of which….

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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:09:34pm

Rebecca says how I feel:

fuck YOU and fuck YOU and FUCK YOUUUUUU
McCain, Graham, And Ron Johnson Just STRAIGHT-TALK-EXPRESSED All Over Your FACE

wonkette.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:10:11pm

re: #350 Decatur Deb

The Trump Show has been a fun Summer replacement, but I’m ready for the regular season to start.

On the plus side, pundits have almost completely stopped saying ‘This is the day he became President’.

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Bubblehead II  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:10:56pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:10:57pm
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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:13:02pm

It’ll be interesting to see how Republicans react to preibus being shit canned.

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451_Montag  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:13:10pm

I’m a bit worried about Banning. Does anyone know if he does any warm up stretches before hand. A torn muscle can be very painful.

359
BeachDem  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:13:57pm

re: #356 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

And let’s not let this charming “Mooch” line get lost in the shuffle:

“What I want to do is I want to fucking kill all the leakers”

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KingKenrod  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:14:10pm

Trump isn’t going to like Mooch stealing his headlines!

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No Depression  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:14:20pm

re: #352 Blind Frog Belly White

Apropos of which….

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No shit.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:15:47pm

re: #351 MsJ

I’m ready for trump et all to go to prison.

Not really. Just let them take their stolen cash to a place that doesn’t have an extradition treaty. And only if they take Pence to be their chaplain.

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451_Montag  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:15:54pm

re: #357 MsJ

It’ll be interesting to see how Republicans react to preibus being shit canned.

I’m just spitballing here, but I am guessing they will be a little concerned, and perhaps frustrated, with a little bit of worry. Not enough to do anything about it though.

364
FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:16:05pm

She’s still hoping for that White House Press Secretary job.
Donny loves the whole reality TV constant interpersonal conflict in the workplace aspect.
It’s a ratings boon…

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:16:46pm

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Skip Intro  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:18:18pm

re: #240 KGxvi

In fairness to Sanders, a few weeks ago, he voted for the amendment that added Russian sanctions to the bill, but voted against the final bill because it included sanctions against Iran that he worried would undermine the Iranian nuclear deal.

Paul just doesn’t think the sanctions are worth anything, apparently.

Paul thinks the only function of government is employing the Paul family.

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:18:20pm
368
MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:19:34pm
369
Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:21:16pm

re: #368 MsJ

Basically, Mini-Me is hurling grenades all over the White House, apparently acting on the boss’s frustrations.

I hate it when fatalities are metaphorical.

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:21:30pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:23:43pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:24:07pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:26:32pm

re: #372 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

“Da, comrade, can get for you. Please to enter bank account information.”

[Snickering behind his back.]

374
Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:27:30pm

King’s Russian is bad. He was trying to order Moo Goo Gai Pan. Simple mistake.

375
nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:28:32pm

re: #374 Decatur Deb

King’s Russian is bad. He was trying to order Moo Goo Gai Pan. Simple mistake.

“And Wan Hung Gai with pork roll”….

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:28:32pm

re: #372 gocart mozart

377
Skip Intro  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:30:43pm

re: #295 MsJ

You are 100% correct. Stop covering up for these lowlifes.

378
gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:34:00pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:34:20pm

re: #378 gocart mozart

Good ol’ J.K.!

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:35:07pm
381
gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:37:59pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:38:19pm

re: #356 FormerDirtDart

Poor Mooch keeps forgetting he’s not hanging out at the Bada Bing! with his crew.

Or maybe he is.

383
Kragar  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:38:58pm

re: #305 BeachDem

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:39:00pm
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Myron Falwell  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:46:01pm

re: #372 gocart mozart

Did Nazi that coming from Steve King.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:46:11pm

387
teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:53:21pm
388
teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:56:23pm

They’ll make anything vegetarian these days.

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:57:13pm
390
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:57:30pm

re: #388 teleskiguy

They’ll make anything vegetarian these days.

[Embedded content]

One thing I don’t think we’ll ever see: Vegetarian beef.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:58:00pm

re: #389 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

“I have concerns about the sanitation of using a skull as a drinking cup.”

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 5:59:52pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:00:09pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:00:34pm

re: #390 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

One thing I don’t think we’ll ever see: Vegetarian beef.

Hmmm. Depends on whether people will consider meat grown in vitro from stem cells as vegetarian.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:00:57pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:01:33pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:01:40pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:02:16pm

re: #396 Ace Rothstein

[Embedded content]

You are a first-rate dumbass and trusting the media is the least of your concerns.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:02:33pm

Dafuq? Ryan as much as said it’s whatever the HFC wants, or it’s the Skinny Repeal. That’s not an assurance. That’s a threat.

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:04:00pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:05:52pm

re: #396 Ace Rothstein

[Embedded content]

The man charge with finding the leaker discovers that the call came from inside the house.

Not just inside the house, but from his own department.

Not just his own department, but his own office.

While he himself was in it.

On the phone.

Leaking.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:05:59pm

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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:06:00pm

re: #396 Ace Rothstein

[Embedded content]

And Maggie rides to the rescue to “Magsplain” the tweet.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:06:44pm

re: #402 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

“Liberal media hit job.” But I guarantee you the Trumperdinckers will eat that up.

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:06:50pm

I mentioned this bit Ari Melber had on tonight upthread. The video is now up. I thought it an interesting discussion on how the Trump base falls for and identifies with Trumps speeches and word use etc.

Iframe

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:08:05pm
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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:08:07pm

re: #402 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Note date of his tweet.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:08:54pm

re: #391 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

“I have concerns about the sanitation of using a skull as a drinking cup.”

As long as it’s bleached he should be good to go.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:09:17pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:10:25pm

re: #408 Dave In Austin

As long as it’s bleached he should be good to go.

Not for prions.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:12:08pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:12:14pm

re: #411 Blind Frog Belly White

Not for prions.

Mad Covfefe disease?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:12:27pm

re: #413 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Mad Covfefe disease?

Moo, bitch.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:13:01pm

re: #412 Blind Frog Belly White

Hell, I know that and I’ve never been in public relations, nor even talked to a reporter, nor even considered doing so.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:15:04pm

Maddow.

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:16:27pm
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Shazam  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:18:20pm

Had to decline to comment due to mouth being full.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:20:43pm
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Broad With Sass  Jul 27, 2017 • 6:21:45pm

re: #350 Decatur Deb

The Trump Show has been a fun Summer replacement, but I’m ready for the regular season to start.

I usually spend my summers mindlessly doing “Big Brother” and this WH shitshow is really screwing with my summer


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