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prairiefire  Jul 31, 2017 • 7:41:17pm

‘C’mon people now, smile on your brother”…we are going to the mat, again, for democracy.

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2017 • 7:41:24pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 31, 2017 • 7:41:34pm

I still remember the immortal moment when the BBC smacked Jones down! I savor this clip over and over!

Alex Jones on BBC One The Daily Politics (HD)

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teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2017 • 7:43:08pm
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Belafon  Jul 31, 2017 • 7:45:29pm

re: #2 MsJ

This might be the important one:

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2017 • 7:48:18pm

Read this thread.

Did you happen to see the story about Bernie being the most popular politician in the universe? Guess who wrote it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 31, 2017 • 7:50:17pm

From the previous thread.

My wife the single-issue voter:

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teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2017 • 7:50:25pm

Tricky Dick, being more athletic than Fuckface Von Clownstick, bigly.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 31, 2017 • 7:56:29pm

re: #10 darthstar

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 31, 2017 • 7:56:50pm

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 31, 2017 • 7:57:30pm

re: #7 Anymouse

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JordanRules  Jul 31, 2017 • 7:58:12pm

re: #6 MsJ

Wow!!
She broke that down! Very nicely done.

I’m sure the Berners are about to lift the goalposts out of the turf and go on a silly run with them.

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jaunte  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:06:54pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:09:04pm

re: #10 FormerDirtDart

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Can’t stop laughing at the J.O. Assault Wipe!

But what is so sad is I have relatives who worship Alex Jones…

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jaunte  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:09:05pm
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wheat-dogg  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:11:32pm

re: #15 jaunte

Something’s in the queue for major news then.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:13:51pm

re: #16 wheat-dogg

Something’s in the queue for major news then.

If you look at#13, there are two things there they want to keep their followers away from.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:14:54pm

re: #17 Belafon

If you look at#13, there are two things there they want to keep their followers away from.

Sure, but there’s probably something else coming down the pike. It’s just how this administration rolls.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:15:40pm

re: #15 jaunte

Come on Sean. Party like it’s 1996!

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bratwurst  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:15:45pm

I swear, he and the rest of his ilk are getting dumber.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:17:38pm

re: #18 wheat-dogg

Sure, but there’s probably something else coming down the pike. It’s just how this administration rolls.

Very true, but I’m not sure the causation is in the right direction. Hannity’s covering up for today. Tomorrow will generate a new crisis for Hannity to cover up.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:17:42pm
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JordanRules  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:17:55pm

re: #20 bratwurst

It’s the Cheeto effect.

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jaunte  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:19:07pm

“…Like Priebus, the Republican Party made a Faustian bargain when it capitulated to Trump’s takeover—it would sell its soul in order to win. But as chaos continues to swirl, Priebus is surely not the only Republican asking himself: What was that victory good for?

“We have a Republican president, a Republican Senate, and a Republican House,” Priebus told me. “I have no regrets at all.”

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:19:10pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:20:05pm

This kind of merchandising is really the driving force behind all kinds of conspiracist and pseudoscience nonsense. Antivaxxers in particular seem to have a full line of alternative products, many of them sold through corporate MLM schemes. I haven’t seen the numbers but it’s a safe bet that the profitability of this far exceeds that of “Big Pharma’s” vaccination business, which is a relatively small niche market in the overall scheme of things. Every creationist, fundy, and flat earth website has a similar line of products, from videos to survival food and home-schooling supplies. Birchers push gold and goofy financial plans, as do many others in the conspiracy culture. We could call this the bullshit industry, but it needs a more presentable name. Suggestions?

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:20:20pm

re: #22 Ace-o-aces

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jaunte  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:20:26pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

Gotta be on guard against treating people like people.

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JordanRules  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:25:46pm

re: #26 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The Swindlstry
Grift Industrial Complex
Conspiracy Capitalism

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:30:16pm

re: #20 bratwurst

I swear, he and the rest of his ilk are getting dumber.

Democrat Franklin Roosevelt instructs Hitler on the consequences of aggression:

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:35:26pm

re: #11 Unshaken Defiance

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teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:40:35pm

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:41:15pm

re: #31 Anymouse

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wheat-dogg  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:42:10pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

Don’t let him in through the back door, Sean.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:48:02pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

Uday and Lumpy Make a Porno

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teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:50:58pm

re: #35 Myron Falwell

Uday and Lumpy Make a Porno

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Kragar  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:52:51pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2017 • 8:54:09pm

re: #37 Kragar

If he actually sees this it’ll go right over his head, the humorless fuck.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 31, 2017 • 9:02:03pm

re: #38 teleskiguy

If he actually sees this it’ll go right over his head, the humorless fuck.

Or he’ll kill a guy with a trident.

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teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2017 • 9:03:04pm

re: #39 Myron Falwell

Or he’ll kill a guy with a trident.

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jaunte  Jul 31, 2017 • 9:27:17pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 31, 2017 • 9:30:06pm
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Birth Control Works  Jul 31, 2017 • 9:32:02pm

re: #15 jaunte

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No matter how hard he tries, Hannity will never be George Clooney.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 31, 2017 • 9:32:46pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

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Yeah, that is just wrong.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 31, 2017 • 9:44:49pm

re: #43 Birth Control Works

No matter how hard he tries, Hannity will never be George Clooney.

George has class—a lot of class. Hannity is just an ass—a real big ass!

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teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2017 • 10:06:07pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 31, 2017 • 10:10:32pm

LOLWUT?

Catholic Church Women Are to Blame for Paedophile Priests (goes to Countercurrent News)

This is one of those “citizen journalist” Websites, so I’m not sure what stock you can put in it. That said, they don’t have a disclaimer they are satire or parody (they do have one that says they try to get things correct but are not responsible if something is reported incorrectly). They don’t seem to have a source for their claims other than another Website that also has no source for their claim.

They claim Cardinal Burke said this and attributed it to women “feminising the Church” while speaking to a group called “The New Emangelization” (which is a real thing).

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JordanRules  Jul 31, 2017 • 10:19:02pm

re: #46 teleskiguy

I mean, he doesn’t have one child that isn’t an idiot?
Tiffany excluded because he doesn’t seem to think she’s his child.
Barron excluded due to age.

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teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2017 • 10:21:41pm

re: #48 JordanRules

Tiffany excluded because he doesn’t seem to think she’s his child.

Except for that one time where she spoke in favor of her father at the Republican National Convention.

Call me skeptical.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 31, 2017 • 10:22:35pm

While Anthony Scaramucci was busy firing himself, Donald Trump did this:

Trump Presents Medal of Honor to Vietnam War Hero (goes to FOX News Channel, also reported at real news outlets)

Commander Bone Spurs McVDismypersonalvietnam. Irony is dead.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 31, 2017 • 10:23:37pm

re: #26 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I don’t know about a better name, but I think I finally understand why the CT loons do their CT loon thing - it is prescreening. It selects for gullible idiots who can then be sold on homeopathic testosterone boosting or whatever…

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JordanRules  Jul 31, 2017 • 10:23:44pm

re: #49 teleskiguy

Nope, you’re right. Idiocy is at 4 out of 5 confirmed. She also had that creepy af Facecrook post about Hayzues blessing him or some such fuckery.

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teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2017 • 10:30:16pm

re: #52 JordanRules

Besides that one time, Tiffany has been out of the spotlight entirely. I suspect her mother Marla is protecting her…and knows all kinds of salacious shit about Fuckface Von Clownstick that, for now, she’s holding close to the vest.

Typing that and reading it again makes me sad. The executive branch of the United States government has been reduced to National Enquirer turd buckets.

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JordanRules  Jul 31, 2017 • 10:30:30pm

Come thru Mama!

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teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2017 • 10:33:00pm

re: #54 JordanRules

I’m weepy.

Kinda proves the theory that elephants are intelligent empathetic creatures.

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2017 • 10:40:09pm

re: #42 Stanley Sea

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Wait, didn’t his lawyer just go out to the press two weeks ago and swear up and down that Papa Trump had nothing to do with the statement?

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JordanRules  Jul 31, 2017 • 10:49:12pm

re: #56 Targetpractice

Yes. Yes he did.

This thread that @MsJ posted earlier has some good insights (and typos), including how Twitler’s legal team is dirty too.

Josh did a good job reading between the lines on this story. Though, in the case of his lawyers, it was the more customary flatout gaslighting.

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teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2017 • 10:52:37pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 31, 2017 • 10:57:20pm

themarysue.com

Female Marvel Comics editor being harassed by men on social media for posting a selfie with her co-workers.

On Friday, Marvel editor Heather Antos, who’s worked on titles like The Unbelievable Gwenpool, happened to post the above, adorable selfie with her coworkers.

And so, like any emotionally well-adjusted person would do, a bunch of (mostly) men decided to harass Antos via DM and tweet. Because she posted a selfie. Of her friends getting milkshakes. The public tweets included plenty of the usual insults and misogyny: “fake geek girls,” “the creepiest collection of stereotypical SJWs anyone could possibly imagine,” and “Gee, I can’t imagine why Marvel’s sales are in the toilet.” Others took to harassing Antos via direct message.

(more at The Mary Sue)

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teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2017 • 10:58:15pm
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Kragar  Jul 31, 2017 • 10:59:14pm
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JordanRules  Jul 31, 2017 • 11:00:28pm

Well done!

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TedStriker  Jul 31, 2017 • 11:07:46pm

re: #62 JordanRules

Well done!

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Hell, it’s not just “gross”, it’s completely fucked up that Kaepernick was and is being treated like a goddamn leper by a lot of so-called football fans for his acts of protest, while Ray Rice and others in the league that have actually done really fucked-up (and sometimes very illegal) shit are treated with kid gloves and respect.

It’s completely unvarnished bullshit with a big ol’ heaping of bigotry and “just shut up and play!”, that’s what it is.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 31, 2017 • 11:10:38pm

Joy-Ann Reid on Pod Save America
getcrookedmedia.com

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teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2017 • 11:11:43pm

Damn it. [American] Football season is starting soon.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 31, 2017 • 11:13:17pm

Scaramucci maybe:

“They’ll all be fired by me. I fired one guy the other day. I have three to four people I’ll fire tomorrow! Ill get to the person who leaked … uh, what? Shit.”

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teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2017 • 11:13:20pm
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JordanRules  Jul 31, 2017 • 11:17:13pm

re: #63 TedStriker

Yep. The only thing moderating my response and keeping me from super indignant is that I’ve already reached that point with the league.

It’s so blatant and wrong and yet not surprising from them. They know the CTE issue is the elephant in the room so they will gladly welcome America’s most peculiar institutional influencer and flashpoint make an appearance.

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sauceruney  Jul 31, 2017 • 11:17:30pm

re: #63 TedStriker

…and others in the league that have actually done really fucked-up (and sometimes very illegal) shit are treated with kid gloves and respect.

Michael Vick and animal abuse, Steubenville Ohio supporting their rapist high school players, the fans of Penn State putting football above child abusers. The hypocrisy list is too large.

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Kragar  Jul 31, 2017 • 11:18:33pm

re: #65 teleskiguy

Damn it. [American] Football season is starting soon.

So fucking glad my town got rid of its team.

Now if we could just get rid of baseball, we’d be great.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 31, 2017 • 11:28:34pm

The Bannon (goes to Urban Dictionary, NSFW definition)

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Scout  Jul 31, 2017 • 11:33:27pm

I’d forgotten all about Sekulow having said this awhile back:

Trump’s Lawyer Denied President Helped Draft Don Jr.’s Statement Just Weeks Ago

I think it has become physically impossible for any one person to remember all the lies these scumbags have come up with. And it’s only been what, about six months?

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teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2017 • 11:33:45pm

re: #70 Kragar

So fucking glad my town got rid of its team.

Now if we could just get rid of baseball, we’d be great.

Unfortunately for me, the Denver Broncos will never go away.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2017 • 11:37:27pm

So, taking a look at the forecast for the Portland, OR metropolitan area (based on a FB comment from an acquaintance of mine who lives there) shows that a full-blast heatwave is on tap. Yeesh.

katu.com

We’re getting one here too (well, a heatwave for my neck of the woods, at least): temperatures in the low to mid 90s, and typically humid. Ick.

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JordanRules  Jul 31, 2017 • 11:43:12pm

World on fire.

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teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2017 • 11:46:00pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 31, 2017 • 11:49:31pm

re: #74 Dr Lizardo

So, taking a look at the forecast for the Portland, OR metropolitan area (based on a FB comment from an acquaintance of mine who lives there) shows that a full-blast heatwave is on tap. Yeesh.

katu.com

We’re getting one here too (well, a heatwave for my neck of the woods, at least): temperatures in the low to mid 90s, and typically humid. Ick.

Yikes. The National Weather Service shows red flag warnings and heat advisories for the whole Pacific coastal area.

Meanwhile here, the cooling trend continues, in the Eighties for the next two days, then the Seventies. Fifties at night.

forecast.weather.gov

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 1, 2017 • 12:09:27am

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹

Red Flag warnings are pretty common for this part of California from now until Halloween.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 1, 2017 • 12:15:11am

re: #73 teleskiguy

Unfortunately for me, the Denver Broncos will never go away.

For us, the Huskers won’t go away. Even though they play in Lincoln (400 miles away), this is Cornhuskers country.

The Huskers make bank on license plates here as well. Nebraska’s registration fees are complicated (a fee is assessed that is divided 50-50 between county and municipality based on vehicle weight, use, age, and value), plus a registration fee of $15 (required for any passenger car), plus about $8 in various other taxes, and $70 on top of that for Nebraska Husker specialty plates.

By comparison, for my car the charge is $5 total (Gold Star Family members get a break here).

I don’t have enough money to be a sportsball fan. That said, I just got six coupons to enter into the state lotto drawing for skybox seats at University of Nebraska at Lincoln for football season. (I wonder if I can sell them if I win.)

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sagehen  Aug 1, 2017 • 12:33:51am

re: #75 JordanRules

World on fire.

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But Trump doesn’t have any buildings in Venezuela, so he doesn’t care.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 1, 2017 • 12:34:03am

I don’t watch television (nor do I own one) so this doesn’t mean anything to me (aside from security). However, there are a bunch of Game of Thrones fans here, so:

nbcnews.com

HBO Hacked: Thieves Claim to Have Game of Thrones Info

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 1, 2017 • 12:40:14am

I need to go to bed, but I will leave you with the Borowitz Report.

newyorker.com

Trump Supporters Furious That They Still Have Healthcare

With a fury that could spell political trouble for Republicans in the midterm elections, Trump voters across the country on Friday expressed their outrage and anger that they still have health coverage.

“I went to bed Thursday night and slept like a baby, assuming that when I woke up I would have zero health insurance,” Carol Foyler, a Trump voter, said. “Instead, this nightmare.”

Harland Dorrinson, who voted for Trump “because he promised that he would take my health care away from me on Day 1,” said that he was “very upset” that he will still receive that benefit.

“I woke up this morning, and my family and I could still see a doctor,” he said. “This is a betrayal.”

Many Trump supporters said that congressional Republicans “gave up too soon” in their efforts to deprive ordinary Americans like them of their health care.

“They should not take August off,” Calvin Denoit, a Trump supporter, said. “They should stay in Washington and keep working until I totally lose my coverage.”

For Trump voters like Benoit, the abject disappointment of continuing to have health care raises fears about which other campaign promises might soon be broken.

“Now I don’t know what to believe,” he said. “Are we still going to get to pay billions of dollars in taxes for that wall?”

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JordanRules  Aug 1, 2017 • 12:50:45am

re: #79 Anymouse 🌹

Most big football states also see nice revenue from specialty plates.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 1, 2017 • 1:08:46am

I was reading the story that broke yesterday, the one about Trump dictating Donnie Jr’s misleading statement about that meeting with the Russian lawyer, and it got me thinking (putting on the tinfoil hat here): Could it be that Kushner is the source of the story, discreetly trying to throw his father-in-law under the bus because Kush recognizes he’s in some very deep shit? Or could it have simply been a dead man’s switch; seems to me that WaPo had the story since the G20 meeting and they just needed a green light from the source to publish it; maybe Spicer or Priebus? It’s written as though it’s from a current advisor who was on board Air Force One observing this particular shitshow.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 1, 2017 • 1:39:43am

re: #84 Dr Lizardo

I was reading the story that broke yesterday, the one about Trump dictating Donnie Jr’s misleading statement about that meeting with the Russian lawyer, and it got me thinking (putting on the tinfoil hat here): Could it be that Kushner is the source of the story, discreetly trying to throw his father-in-law under the bus because Kush recognizes he’s in some very deep shit? Or could it have simply been a dead man’s switch; seems to me that WaPo had the story since the G20 meeting and they just needed a green light from the source to publish it; maybe Spicer or Priebus? It’s written as though it’s from a current advisor who was on board Air Force One observing this particular shitshow.

Tough to say. For the story to be true, someone would need to have direct knowledge of it.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 1, 2017 • 1:45:26am

re: #85 Anymouse 🌹

Tough to say. For the story to be true, someone would need to have direct knowledge of it.

True that. When I read it, it seemed like the entire second half of the story was told from the perspective of Kushner and his lawyers, and the details that the source revealed seem like they were intended to portray Kushner as favorably as possible (“…he wanted to be fully transparent, but Trump overruled him”). At the very least, whoever leaked this seems to know one hell of a lot about conversations that Kushner’s presumably had with his lawyers.

I also noticed the article never said “Jared Kushner declined to comment”, but it did say that about most of the other people mentioned specifically by name. While that’s not conclusive, it is damnably suggestive.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 1, 2017 • 2:14:57am

Anthony Scaramucci broke Reagan communication director Jack Koehler all-time record. He resigned after thirteen days when it was revealed that he was a member of Nazi Germany’s Deutsches Jungvolk (a division of the Hitler Youth).

Yeah, I’m not buying the story of those who say “the Republican Party left them.” He was the successor to Holocaust denier Pat Buchanan in the Reagan Administration. (Buchanan was the guy who promoted to Reagan visiting the cemetery in West Germany to lay a wreath at the graves of SS members.)

Elie Wiesel said about that trip: The only one really defending the trip was Pat Buchanan, saying, ‘We cannot give the perception of the President being subjected to Jewish pressure.’

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Timothy Watson  Aug 1, 2017 • 2:17:27am
Anthony Scaramucci has been cast out.

Reince Priebus’s blood cries out from the soil.

And now the curse of President Trump has fallen upon Scaramucci, and he has been made a fugitive and a wanderer on the earth. He is of no further use to Jared nor unto Ivanka, and so his iniquities cry out against him, and his loyalty is regarded not at all. And also the general, John Kelly, did not like his deeds, not one bit, and John Kelly has big braids on his shoulders and his burnt offerings to the homeland have received Trump’s favor.

So he has been cursed forth from Trump’s presence and he must wander the earth and lament until the end of his days.

washingtonpost.com

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 1, 2017 • 2:23:43am

I don’t know about anyone else, but being up hours before the crack of dawn doing laundry in the apartment complex’s laundry feels weird as hell.
It’s got that slasher movie creepiness thing going.

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sagehen  Aug 1, 2017 • 2:29:33am

re: #89 FormerDirtDart

I don’t know about anyone else, but being up hours before the crack of dawn doing laundry in the apartment complex’s laundry feels weird as hell.
It’s got that slasher movie creepiness thing going.

DON’T. GO. IN. THE. BASEMENT!!

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 1, 2017 • 2:30:51am

re: #89 FormerDirtDart

I don’t know about anyone else, but being up hours before the crack of dawn doing laundry in the apartment complex’s laundry feels weird as hell.
It’s got that slasher movie creepiness thing going.

Heh.

I don’t know about anyone else here, but I hate taking cold showers. Annual maintenance is being done on the building’s boiler, so no hot water until midnight tonight (it’ll probably be done sooner than that, barring any unforeseen issues).

Oh well. One day (hopefully) - no biggie.

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harlequinade  Aug 1, 2017 • 2:34:39am

re: #89 FormerDirtDart

I work in Sweden. I’ve been told that the storage rooms in the basement are built into the apartments nuclear bunker. To get to my laundry room I have to walk past the double airlock door.

It’s not so happy an experience.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 1, 2017 • 2:47:00am

re: #92 harlequinade

I work in Sweden. I’ve been told that the storage rooms in the basement are built into the apartments nuclear bunker. To get to my laundry room I have to walk past the double airlock door.

It’s not so happy an experience.

Got a nuclear bunker in my building too!

The building I live in was constructed in the mid-’70s. The reason for the bunker? Easy - this part of town is in fairly close proximity to what is today Leoš Janaček International Aiport - but back in the Cold War era, that airport was a military airport with the longest runway in the Warsaw Pact outside Russia itself. Needless to say, that would’ve been a primary target for a NATO nuclear strike, and the geography of the area is essentially a contiguous plain between here and the airport.

Not to mention that Ostrava itself, which at the time was home to a vast - and militarily vital - steel industry, was almost certainly a target for a nuke strike.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 1, 2017 • 2:54:25am

re: #90 sagehen

DON’T. GO. IN. THE. BASEMENT!!

Luckily it’s above ground, in it’s own separate building, somewhat centralized to the complex.

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harlequinade  Aug 1, 2017 • 3:03:00am

re: #93 Dr Lizardo

Isn’t it the strangest thing?!
I mean - the bunker is the apartment storage rooms. Every time I go into the room I pass these thick doors.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 1, 2017 • 3:12:46am

re: #95 harlequinade

Isn’t it the strangest thing?!
I mean - the bunker is the apartment storage rooms. Every time I go into the room I pass these thick doors.

Yeah. I was telling a student about that, and she was like, “Where exactly do you live?” I told her and she replied, “Hmmm……that’s only about 10 minutes away on a bicycle. I think I could make it.”

LOL.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 1, 2017 • 3:47:26am

Well, dawn is here and my laundry is washed, dried and folded. Only thing I haven’t done is pair up the socks.

Now to kick back a few minutes, then walk the beasts.

You have all got me thinking of my youth.
Way back when, as a small lad living in Connecticut, we had our own family bomb shelter.
A sealed hallway/tunnel led of from the basement to the underground shelter. Along the hallway were shelves mostly filled with canned goods. All I really remember about the shelter is that there were metal bunk beds, and the lump in the ground with the air vents sticking out in our side yard.
According to my mom it was quite regular for me to found sleeping in there.
That is when I wasn’t sleeping somewhere else in the neighborhood. As I was often found catching some Zs on neighbors porches, picnic tables in back yards, or merely under a tree in someones front yard.
Obviously, I was destined for the Infantry.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 1, 2017 • 4:02:18am

re: #97 FormerDirtDart

Friend of mine in Los Angeles had a bomb shelter in her backyard. She turned it into party central.

Also - she had a garbage incinerator. They were used in L.A. until the late 1950’s, when they were finally prohibited; needless to say, the burning of dry garbage contributed a great deal to the city’s smog problems.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 1, 2017 • 5:43:14am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 1, 2017 • 5:43:50am
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jeffreyw  Aug 1, 2017 • 5:45:21am

Imgur


Good morning!

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steve_davis  Aug 1, 2017 • 5:46:00am

re: #54 JordanRules

Come thru Mama!

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kind of false advertising. by “amazing,” I’d hoped that the lions organized some kind of truck-pull to get the baby unstuck. Elephants demonstrating they can run an effective government just seems anti-climactic.

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William Lewis  Aug 1, 2017 • 5:46:49am

re: #102 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Heh. Even Feline Overlords bow to Old Turtle… ;)

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 1, 2017 • 5:50:50am

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re: #52 JordanRules

Nope, you’re right. Idiocy is at 4 out of 5 confirmed. She also had that creepy af Facecrook post about Hayzues blessing him or some such fuckery.

Wasn’t that a fake Tiffany account? I thought she didn’t actually post that.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 1, 2017 • 5:51:33am
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Dr. Matt  Aug 1, 2017 • 5:55:42am

This is pretty damning….

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Dr. Matt  Aug 1, 2017 • 6:07:24am

re: #107 Dr. Matt

This is pretty damning….

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Sir John Barron  Aug 1, 2017 • 6:10:34am

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹

Anthony Scaramucci broke Reagan communication director Jack Koehler all-time record. He resigned after thirteen days when it was revealed that he was a member of Nazi Germany’s Deutsches Jungvolk (a division of the Hitler Youth).

Yeah, I’m not buying the story of those who say “the Republican Party left them.” He was the successor to Holocaust denier Pat Buchanan in the Reagan Administration. (Buchanan was the guy who promoted to Reagan visiting the cemetery in West Germany to lay a wreath at the graves of SS members.)

Elie Wiesel said about that trip: The only one really defending the trip was Pat Buchanan, saying, ‘We cannot give the perception of the President being subjected to Jewish pressure.’

Wait, whut?

All of this happened? Geez.

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makeitstop  Aug 1, 2017 • 6:10:50am

Even if Trump had been crime-free at the point of dictating Junior’s ‘statement’ on AF1, that ended right there. Thread.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 1, 2017 • 6:13:59am

re: #2 MsJ

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Thank you, Sir. What the hell is Sanders’ end game? This is increasingly bizarre behavior. We all need to focus on taking down the Trump regime. There should be zero infighting among Democrats.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 1, 2017 • 6:14:29am

re: #107 Dr. Matt

What probably helps Rod Wheeler’s lawsuit is that he has an extensive paper and audio trail of key Fox News personnel. Because private investigator.

Serves them right.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 1, 2017 • 6:16:30am

re: #98 Dr Lizardo

Friend of mine in Los Angeles had a bomb shelter in her backyard. She turned it into party central.

Also - she had a garbage incinerator. They were used in L.A. until the late 1950’s, when they were finally prohibited; needless to say, the burning of dry garbage contributed a great deal to the city’s smog problems.

Our embassy rental house in Israel had a room with rubber doorseals, 11 inch reinforced concrete walls. Although the window had a 3/4 inch steel cover, it was not sealed, and we were issued the notorious plastic sheeting and duct tape to close it off as needed.

(Some US agency here in the states caught shit for teaching the plastic-and-tape answer to an anthrax threat. It’s actually the correct approach if you must shelter in place.)

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weave  Aug 1, 2017 • 6:19:40am
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Myron Falwell  Aug 1, 2017 • 6:21:47am

re: #108 Dr. Matt

Collusion.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 1, 2017 • 6:22:48am

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

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Yeah, you have to face it

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 1, 2017 • 6:28:15am

re: #73 teleskiguy

Unfortunately for me, the Denver Broncos will never go away.

I’m stuck the Redskins….

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weave  Aug 1, 2017 • 6:28:19am

Iframe

In case you missed his other work of art…

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Myron Falwell  Aug 1, 2017 • 6:37:52am

re: #117 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I’m stuck the Redskins….

Cleveland will forever be a Browns Clowns Town.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 1, 2017 • 6:46:08am
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FormerDirtDart  Aug 1, 2017 • 6:56:33am

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2017 • 6:58:51am

I’m not about to click on the link at work, and I can’t see the picture, but which part of the constitution do they violate?

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:00:02am

re: #122 Belafon

I’m not about to click on the link at work, and I can’t see the picture, but which part of the constitution do they violate?

Treating black people like human beings

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:01:36am

He so mad bro

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:02:31am

re: #124 The Vicious Babushka

He so mad bro

If you really wanted to get the truth out, you could just leak it.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:02:45am

re: #107 Dr. Matt

This is pretty damning….

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Must credit @davidfolkenflik

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makeitstop  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:02:50am

Dots, being connected…

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:07:16am

re: #121 FormerDirtDart

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Herman Cain shows his bigotry

Wow. Cain attempts to dissemble and conflates his perception of the intelligence of the public (which is incorrect) and suggests that the CRA ended racial enmity in the US. And, then goes on to argle-bargle about religious freedumb being impinged upon because bibull. As though denigration of blahs and slavery wasn’t being justified by the bibull.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:08:34am

re: #127 makeitstop

Dots, being connected…

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You might think, “end of Rupert Murdoch? Yeah right!”

The British definitely haven’t forgotten the News Of The World scandal. He’s a major media oligarch there, and in his homeland of Australia.

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ObserverArt  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:08:53am

re: #124 The Vicious Babushka

He so mad bro

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So, Kelly is already a Trump enemy is he? You just know the Twittering issue is something Kelly is going to try to get a grip on. Good luck…he’s Trump, he is not going to stop.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:10:41am

re: #123 Eventual Carrion

Treating black people like human beings

2/5ths unconstitutional.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:10:44am
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FormerDirtDart  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:13:50am

OK, my couch is calling…

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:15:58am
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FormerDirtDart  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:16:26am

Damn you twitter, let me go nap on my couch…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:16:32am

re: #46 teleskiguy

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ChuckJager95  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:17:39am
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FormerDirtDart  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:19:55am

Thread

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:21:00am

re: #74 Dr Lizardo

So, taking a look at the forecast for the Portland, OR metropolitan area (based on a FB comment from an acquaintance of mine who lives there) shows that a full-blast heatwave is on tap. Yeesh.

katu.com

We’re getting one here too (well, a heatwave for my neck of the woods, at least): temperatures in the low to mid 90s, and typically humid. Ick.

I have a friend who’s moving from Portland to Chicago. He’s in Portland. His AC window unit is on its way to Chicago. Portland didn’t used to get really hot, so there’s no central air available.

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dangerman  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:21:32am

today’s thought question:

virtually no one is leaving this administration with history looking kind on them
ryan, mcconnell, anyone in the white house, devos, perry, on and on

kelly was top of his military game, reasonably safe / top of his career at dhs - he might have done ok

cos is a demotion
ego 1 vs ego 2, somewhat organizational. mostly political. not his bailiwick

what’s *really* in it for him?

does he think he can reign even *some* of the chaos in, create positive, forward motion and thus “save” america?

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dangerman  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:23:03am

re: #135 FormerDirtDart

Damn you twitter, let me go nap on my couch…

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you know, no one’s ever looked at this really carefully….

starts 80’s action film montage music

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Stanley Sea  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:24:46am

re: #140 dangerman

today’s thought question:

virtually no one is leaving this administration with history looking kind on them
ryan, mcconnell, anyone in the white house, devos, perry, on and on

kelly was top of his military game, reasonably safe / top of his career at dhs - he might have done ok

cos is a demotion
ego 1 vs ego 2, somewhat organizational. mostly political. not his bailiwick

what’s *really* in it for him?

does he think he can reign even *some* of the chaos in, create positive, forward motion and thus “save” america?

‘Tis a mystery why Kelly took this position.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:25:08am

re: #94 FormerDirtDart

Luckily it’s above ground, in it’s own separate building, somewhat centralized to the complex.

That’s why you’re allowed to do laundry at night. I wish my complex was like that, but the machines are in our buildings, and only to be used 8am-10pm because an unbalanced load of laundry would keep the people in the adjacent apartment awake at night.

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Archangelus  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:27:00am

re: #108 Dr. Matt

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Damning as hell… also, ignoring the multiple levels of wrongness of SCROTUS doing that in itself, it can’t possibly have been in any way legal, right?

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Myron Falwell  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:28:20am

re: #142 Stanley Sea

‘Tis a mystery why Kelly took this position.

We need Robert Stack on the case of this unsolved mystery.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:29:15am

re: #106 Dr. Matt

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makeitstop  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:29:27am

re: #142 Stanley Sea

‘Tis a mystery why Kelly took this position.

You gotta remember that even though he did one sane thing, he’s likely as insane as the rest of them.

After all, Trump hand-picked him.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:31:25am

re: #120 Myron Falwell

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:32:44am

re: #124 The Vicious Babushka

He so mad bro

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:33:09am

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

The Bannon (goes to Urban Dictionary, NSFW definition)

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makeitstop  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:42:31am
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makeitstop  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:43:44am

HAHAHAHA…..no.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:46:13am

Wow.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:49:49am

I think it’s evident now why teh Mooch wanted to run Bannon out in the most vulgar way possible.

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:50:51am

re: #151 makeitstop

Are we going to have to archive twitter every hour?

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Archangelus  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:51:49am

OK, speaking of legal, things are about to get VERY interesting in Israel - the media has been issued one of the state’s rare publication-prohibiting warrants concerning an ongoing investigation of Prime Minister Netanyahu, and law enforcement has gone to the rather rare effort of announcing the thing publicly (there have been a handful of such warrants since 2000, and usually the very fact of a warrant being issued is kept under wraps).
Naturally, as in the past, it’ll eventually be revealed around the world (since the whole thing’s useless beyond Israel’s physical and virtual borders), and probably soon. But the fact that it’s come to this means whatever was prohibited was and is BIG…

———
For those of you not familiar with the matter, Israeli law has an ancient ordinance requiring the media to cooperate with the still-existing Censorship Office on anything relevant to national security. All published articles in Israel get sent to the Office before they’re published; Of those, I’d say that ~96% of the time they’re instantly green-lit; 3.99999999999999% of the time they’ll request that a word or line be altered so as not to give away something sensitive (most of the times because of decades-old protocols on how certain national/military items are referenced and those aren’t entirely met, sometimes because they have to do with ongoing operations); and on about 0.00000000000001% of the times, they’ll require that something not be published because of immediate risk to national security.
Those 0.00000000000001% of times (if not way lower than that - don’t wanna overdo the zeroes but we are talking about maybe a few dozen items out of all the articles published since the law was established in the 1950s) are where the establishment can request that a publication be prohibited nationwide as that might result in direct harm to national security (often revealing sources/units/senior officials that could be exposed and/or killed as a direct result);

There’s a rather complex mechanism for such warrants (has to go through high legal approval before being issued), and the number of times they’ve been approved in the past two decades can be counted on two hands at most, including this time - and I can’t recall the last time the very existence of the warrant was made public to such effect.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:54:12am
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:54:47am

Texas, it’s like a whole ‘nother country.

Levelland cockfighting ring bust: 37 cited, 3 arrested, 5 illegal immigrants detained
This is 30 miles from Lubbock.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:55:19am

Yesterday I was wondering if there was something else coming down the pike re: Trump & Co. Today I have my answer.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:58:09am

re: #138 FormerDirtDart

Thread

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If war is never an option, you and I have wasted a lot of time. I like to think it should always be close to the last option.

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:59:18am

re: #114 weave

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h/t Reddit user critters

That was so funny! In case anyone wants to RT.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 1, 2017 • 7:59:39am

re: #159 wheat-dogg

Yesterday I was wondering if there was something else coming down the pike re: Trump & Co. Today I have my answer.

Gotta say, this was an excellent distraction from the Mooch firing. //

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Stanley Sea  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:02:22am

This is awesome

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Sir John Barron  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:02:24am

re: #162 Myron Falwell

Gotta say, this was an excellent distraction from the Mooch firing. //

How do they top this tomorrow?

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makeitstop  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:02:30am

re: #155 Belafon

Are we going to have to archive twitter every hour?

Seems so! Either that or Mueller’s going to have to start issuing subpoenas.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:03:09am

re: #162 Myron Falwell

Gotta say, this was a excellent distraction from the Mooch firing. //

Sarah Kendzior has warned us that autocracies deliberately seed chaos in order to keep everyone off-balance, enabling the autocrats to seize more power while everyone is distracted. So, I wonder sometimes whether the chaos surrounding Trump is planned or not.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:03:25am

re: #165 makeitstop

Seems so! Either that or Mueller’s going to have to start issuing subpoenas.

“Hey I’m just deleting those tweets from when I was a kid last summer just so as to not be a distraction.”

/

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:04:19am

re: #139 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I have a friend who’s moving from Portland to Chicago. He’s in Portland. His AC window unit is on its way to Chicago. Portland didn’t used to get really hot, so there’s no central air available.

Yeah; this is quite the heatwave for the PDX area.

Tell you what, I wish I had AC right now. It’s about 95 degrees out there. In these old panelák buildings, there’s no central air system, and it’s a small fortune to get one installed.

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:05:55am

re: #166 wheat-dogg

Sarah Kendzior has warned us that autocracies deliberately seed chaos in order to keep everyone off-balance, enabling the autocrats to seize more power while everyone is distracted. So, I wonder sometimes whether the chaos surrounding Trump is planned or not.

I think the difference is that autocracies cause chaos outside of their group: a murder here, a disappearance there, an unjustified arrest of a public official when the heat turns up. All of Trump’s chaos is focused on him.

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ObserverArt  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:06:24am

Well things just keep getting more and more interesting don’t they?

It sure would be great if not only does this ruin Trump but it also ruins FOX News. It sure is getting clearer they are not practicing journalism, they are nothing but Nixon’s CREEP posing as a news network.

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Archangelus  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:07:30am

re: #156 Archangelus

On the topic of Israel’s publication-prohibiting warrants, it’s worth noting that such a warrant was certainly issued back in January when the rest of the world (including us at LGF) covered reports about discussions between US and Israeli intelligence officials about how Trump may be compromised, and how Israeli officials were concerned intelligence given to Trump could end up in Russian and then Iranian hands.

While everyone was discussing it and while the Trump admin called it fake news (what else), the whole thing was blanketed in Israeli media - nothing in the newspapers, nothing on ANY of the websites, and if you tried to post a comment about it in any of the Israeli sites, it wouldn’t get published (and I tried just for the sake of it and know well how their systems work). This ONLY happens if there’s such a warrant in effect and what’s more, there was absolutely a case to be made for the reports potentially compromising national security had they been published locally.

Given that as well as the lengthy, complex mechanism behind the approval of a warrant, it can be said with absolute certainty that the very issuing of such a warrant by Israeli authorities means that it sure as hell was NOT “fake news”….

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Myron Falwell  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:08:23am

re: #166 wheat-dogg

Sarah Kendzior has warned us that autocracies deliberately seed chaos in order to keep everyone off-balance, enabling the autocrats to seize more power while everyone is distracted. So, I wonder sometimes whether the chaos surrounding Trump is planned or not.

One interesting thing to note: Sean Spicer — who has absolutely nothing to lose, and who didn’t sign a non-disclosure form — outed himself as a source WRT the NPR scoop.

I don’t think that was planned.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:08:44am

re: #159 wheat-dogg

Yesterday I was wondering if there was something else coming down the pike re: Trump & Co. Today I have my answer.

3 things at the top of the fold:

The Yam wrote Jr’s first lie
The WH was scammed by fake email
The Yam colluded on the fake Seth Rich story with Fox

NEXT

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Archangelus  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:09:00am

re: #170 ObserverArt

Well things just keep getting more and more interesting don’t they?

It sure would be great if not only does this ruin Trump but it also ruins FOX News. It sure is getting clearer they are not practicing journalism, they are nothing but Nixon’s CREEP posing as a news network.

Doubt it’d ruin them, all it does is confirm what most of Americans assumed they’ve been doing for ages now…

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:09:21am

re: #142 Stanley Sea

‘Tis a mystery why Kelly took this position.

Unless he’s in contact with Mueller. Since he was really pissed about Comey being fired, one never knows.

He did take an oath to the Constitution. He may be someone who takes that seriously.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:10:55am

re: #171 Archangelus

From what you’re describing, sounds like this is not your common garden variety corruption scandal.

Not good. But like you said, it’ll eventually come out, most likely in the international media and most likely within the next week or so.

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jaunte  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:11:24am

Ryan trying hard to distract from the WH and R’s ineptness by cheerleading for the Trumpwall.

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:11:30am

re: #147 makeitstop

You gotta remember that even though he did one sane thing, he’s likely as insane as the rest of them.

After all, Trump hand-picked him.

He may be a nutter when it comes to immigration and homeland security. He is military and they always see threats everywhere. That doesn’t mean he is going to abandon his principles (because he may see what he is doing at DHS as doing what he thinks is right, even if his basis is incorrect).

I am holding out hope that he is going to be a source to Mueller.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:12:36am

re: #174 Archangelus

Doubt it’d ruin them, all it does is confirm what most of Americans assumed they’ve been doing for ages now…

Internationally, News Corp. is fucked seven ways to Sunday. This is worse than the News Of The World phone hacking scandal, and that damn near broke the company.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:14:54am

re: #177 jaunte

RT if you agree→ It is time for The Wall.
— Paul Ryan

JFC.

PR: What do we got today?

Staff: Nothing. Obamacare repeal is dead, which means tax reform is dead, too. POTUS is setting the WH on fire.

PR: OK, well, what about The Wall?

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Jay C  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:15:28am

re: #140 dangerman

today’s thought question:

virtually no one is leaving this administration with history looking kind on them
ryan, mcconnell, anyone in the white house, devos, perry, on and on

kelly was top of his military game, reasonably safe / top of his career at dhs - he might have done ok

cos is a demotion
ego 1 vs ego 2, somewhat organizational. mostly political. not his bailiwick

what’s *really* in it for him?

does he think he can reign even *some* of the chaos in, create positive, forward motion and thus “save” america?

Well, given his astonishingly/disgracefully low bar for “success” with the Trump White House, I think GEN Kelly is going to “succeed” - or more importantly (and probably more accurately) look like a “success”to a media desperate to try make the Trump Presidency seem like anything but the chaotic/buffoonish shitshow it has come across as in its first six months. Kelly’s job isn’t going to be made any easier by the inescapable fact that the Admin really IS a chaotic/buffoonish shitshow (and the problems start and end at the top): but, as is usual in Washington, appearances are everything, and putting even the thinnest veneer of “normal” administrative competence on the Trump circus is probably going to hailed and praised as The Greatest Thing EVAH!!!

I’m not sure really how much success Kelly is likely to actually have: but if he can leverage his popular image as the Tough Marine Ass-Kicker into halting (or at least putting a lid on) WH infighting; halting (or at least stemming) the deluge of leaks, gossip and backbiting; improving the Administration’s (currently zero-credibilty) relations with the “MSM” media; and repair the WH’s frayed relations with Congress:
he going to LOOK like a hero, and will probably be touted in the press as the key to (finally) “Making Trump Presidential”.

Of course, The Donald is just as likely to ruin everything Kelly attempts with yet another ill-considered speech, or unconstitutional EO, or angry early-morning tweet, or avalanche of Russiagate-related dirt: but as I said: rot from the top….

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:15:58am

re: #177 jaunte

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Archangelus  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:19:37am

re: #176 Dr Lizardo

From what you’re describing, sounds like this is not your common garden variety corruption scandal.

Not in the least - from the looks of it, it has to do with a state witness’ testimony regarding what’s being called the Submarine Affair, an investigation into Netanyahu’s involvement in the state’s past acquisition of submarines.
The fact that there was a witness going to testify was common knowledge, so it seems there’s been one hell of a twist regarding what he actually testified about…

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makeitstop  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:20:41am

re: #170 ObserverArt

It sure is getting clearer they are not practicing journalism, they are nothing but Nixon’s CREEP posing as a news network.

Remember who the architect was - Nixon flack Roger Ailes. He wrote the book on stove-piping information.

“A Plan for Putting the GOP on TV News” is an unsigned, undated memo calling for a partisan, pro-GOP news operation to be potentially paid for and run out of the White House. Aimed at sidelining the “censorship” of the liberal mainstream media and delivering prepackaged pro-Nixon news to local television stations, it reads today like a detailed precis for a Fox News prototype. From context provided by other memos, it’s apparent that the plan was hatched during the summer of 1970. And though it’s not clear who wrote it, the copy provided by the Nixon Library literally has Ailes’ handwriting all over it—it appears he was routed the memo by Haldeman and wrote back his enthusiastic endorsement, refinements, and a request to run the project in the margins.

The 15-page plan begins with an acknowledgment that television had emerged as the most powerful news source in large part because “people are lazy” and want their thinking done for them:

Today television news is watched more often than people read newspapers, than people listen to the radio, than people read or gather any other form of communication. The reason: People are lazy. With television you just sit—watch—listen. The thinking is done for you.

With that in mind, the anonymous GOP official urged the creation of a network “to provide pro-Administration, videotape, hard news actualities to the major cities of the United States.” Aware that the national television networks were the enemy, the writer proposed going around them by sending packaged, edited news stories and interviews with politicians directly to local television stations.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:22:53am

re: #183 Archangelus

Not in the least - from the looks of it, it has to do with a state witness’ testimony regarding what’s being called the Submarine Affair, an investigation into Netanyahu’s involvement in the state’s past acquisition of submarines.
The fact that there was a witness going to testify was common knowledge, so it seems there’s been one hell of a twist regarding what he actually testified about…

Yeah. Maybe kickbacks or something?

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:24:29am

re: #171 Archangelus

Could you possibly dumb down what your re: #156 Archangelus means? I don’t understand.

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Archangelus  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:25:27am

re: #183 Archangelus

Updated per Ynet (Hebrew):
“A court has approved the warrant at the request of law enforcement. Any and all details from the testimony of state witness Ganor into the affair, including future investigations resulting from his testimony, cannot be published. The warrant will be active for a period of a month and a half.”

[Emphasis mine]

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jaunte  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:30:58am
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makeitstop  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:34:07am

Abramson hits on a very good point here. If Trump didn’t know about Junior’s meeting, how did he know enough details to dictate a statement?

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Dr. Matt  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:34:49am
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ObserverArt  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:36:00am

re: #184 makeitstop

Remember who the architect was - Nixon flack Roger Ailes. He wrote the book on stove-piping information.

Sure do remember. It’s is why I mentioned CREEP.

I did not realize until a few months ago doing some reading on Ailes…he is from Warren Ohio and graduated with a journalism degree from Ohio University.

For those not familiar, Warren is right next door to Youngstown. It is a tough area of Ohio and for a long time it was said Youngstown and Warren were the meeting area for the mob in America. It’s halfway between New York City and Chicago…and Cleveland area members were the hosts.

I’m sure his take no prisoners and wreck it all for victory approach come from that hardcore background. He was also allegedly abused heavily by his father. Roger was raised to be a tough bastard.

Warren is also birthplace of Dave Grohl too.

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Archangelus  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:38:52am

re: #186 MsJ

Could you possibly dumb down what your means? I don’t understand.

Sorry, should have written that mess better.
In a nutshell:

1) Based on a really old law, Israel has a system in place for issuing very rare warrants to prevent very sensitive national security stuff from being made public.
2) Such a warrant forces ALL Israeli media not to publish whatever the warrant is about. No articles, commentaries, not even web comments.
3) Such a warrant has JUST been issued regarding an investigation into PM Netanyahu.
4) They made the very fact of the warrant public (not a common thing with those warrants).

Also:
5) The investigation wasn’t that sensitive before; that this just happened means there’s been quite the twist.

Hope this helps.
—————-

Also, in case you’re wondering “Well, why don’t they just get rid of that stupid law to begin with”, the answer is that said law is one of several Israeli laws that are as close to “constitutional” as it gets, and are tied to many other laws spanning decades - it’d take A HUGE effort and cooperation by all political parties to undo it in particular, and is neither possible politically nor worth the effort involved at the end of the day…

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jaunte  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:43:44am

Fox News, a constant danger to domestic tranquility.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:43:53am

re: #159 wheat-dogg

Yesterday I was wondering if there was something else coming down the pike re: Trump & Co. Today I have my answer.

The answer is always yes.

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dangerman  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:45:28am

re: #180 Sir John Barron

JFC.

PR: What do we got today?

Staff: Nothing. Obamacare repeal is dead, which means tax reform is dead, too. POTUS is setting the WH on fire.

PR: OK, well, what about The Wall?

“yeah, put that ass on a horse”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:46:57am

re: #193 jaunte

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Fox News, a constant danger to domestic tranquility.

Didn’t even spell “Lambastes” right…

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BeachDem  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:48:07am

re: #134 Ace-o-aces

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Everyone involved in this story (with the exception of Seth Rich’s family) is creepy as hell:

Wheeler—creepy
Butowski—creepy
Fox News—all creepy as hell
White House peeps—goes without saying

It’s like a giant cage match—and you kinda hope they all go down.

Edit to add (how could I forget)
WikiLeaks—ugh

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Dr. Matt  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:49:00am

re: #193 jaunte

Fox News, a constant danger to domestic tranquility.

BUTT, BUTT, BUTTT….TEH LIBRULS ARE SEEEW VIOLANT!!!!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:49:04am

re: #197 BeachDem

Everyone involved in this story (with the exception of Seth Rich’s family) is creepy as hell:

Wheeler—creepy
Butowski—creepy
Fox News—all creepy as hell
White House peeps—goes without saying

It’s like a giant cage match—and you kinda hope they all go down.

So drop the cage in a lake.

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:51:06am

re: #192 Archangelus

Sorry, should have written that mess better.
In a nutshell:

1) Based on a really old law, Israel has a system in place for issuing very rare warrants to prevent very sensitive national security stuff from being made public.
2) Such a warrant forces ALL Israeli media not to publish whatever the warrant is about. No articles, commentaries, not even web comments.
3) Such a warrant has JUST been issued regarding an investigation into PM Netanyahu.
4) They made the very fact of the warrant public (not a common thing with those warrants).

Also:
5) The investigation wasn’t sensitive before; that this just happened means there’s been quite the twist.

Hope this helps.
—————-

Also, in case you’re wondering “Well, why don’t they just get rid of that stupid law to begin with”, the answer is that said law is one of several Israeli laws that are as close to “constitutional” as it gets, and are tied to many other laws spanning decades - it’d take A HUGE effort and cooperation by all political parties to undo it in particular, and is neither possible politically nor worth the effort involved at the end of the day…

Thank you!

I kinda like the law if it is used to protect the country - and - if it is used sparingly. If abused, then I would say get rid of it, but if it is not abused, I don’t have any issues with it. This, of course, assumes that there are safeguards in place. Like that Bibi can’t nuke Iran to cover up whatever, that the Knesset has controls to make sure he doesn’t do something to completely fuck Israel.

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JordanRules  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:52:11am

NPR steps it up I see. This is good.
It shouldn’t be just Wapo and NYT dueling with the heavyweight scoops.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:53:58am
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Myron Falwell  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:55:38am

re: #199 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

So drop the cage in a lake.

Wither molten lava?

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lawhawk  Aug 1, 2017 • 8:56:42am

Trump will never ever change. He’s a guy who inherited his fortune and makes people think he got where he was through hard work. He has repeatedly failed outside his supposed core competency of real estate (he’s failed there too, but not as often), and yet he’s claimed to be a business wiz, a great negotiator, and knows how to make great deals.

Yet his entire tenure as president to date has been an unmitigated failure.

He can’t close a deal with his own party to pass any consequential legislation. The GOP can’t pass Trumpcare and that’s despite having a majority in both House and Senate. Trump threats fall on deaf ears in the Congress these days, and the noise and fury from the West Wing is deafening as all he has left is bluster and bullying.

All the while, the investigators keep digging, the journalists keep finding out juicy bits - like Trump was behind the denial letter about the June 9 meeting Junior had with the Russians along with Kushner and Manafort.

That means that Trump knew or had reason to know the content of the meeting and actively lied about the details of what was discussed. The legal jeopardy attaching to this is a whole lot worse for Trump, who still thinks he did nothing wrong and that he can do no wrong (legally or otherwise). The Trump cabal simply don’t think the law applies to them, and the GOP still enables their nonsense.

Ryan is going on this morning about how we need to build a wall (just days after Trump tweets that the border is secure, which would suggest no need for a wall) - and all these know-nothing regressives ignore that many who are here illegally have overstayed visas - not jumped the border.

There’s no consistent message.
There’s no consistent policy.
There’s no actual policy (far more serious and basic/fundamental).

All Trump does is rail online to his core audience with the same empty platitudes that got him the nomination, and he thinks that’s sufficient. His staff is in open revolt, when they’re not backstabbing (or front stabbing) each other just to last a little bit longer, or to show loyalty to Trump, who shows none in return.

Trump values loyalty to him. He uses and abuses people and discards them when their utility is no longer apparent. We keep seeing this daily, and the WH disaster was foreshadowed by his campaign performance where it was a series of disasters, each more unfortunate than the last - and yet the media kept their focus not on Trump’s failings, but on Clinton and her emails.

It’s rather ironic that emails keep showing that Trump’s the one up to his eyeballs in collusion and criminal acts.

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lawhawk  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:03:26am

re: #202 The Vicious Babushka

Sure, add more Faux News people to the mix. That’ll go over great. The same people who aided/abetted sexual harassment and abuse among the top personalities there are now itching to spread their success to the White House populated by a misogynist, bully, and sex abuser.

Because the only thing that matters to all of them is power. Unlimited power…

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:06:00am

I have to say that I am heartened that some of the government seems to still be working.

Late Friday, the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB), the independent US government agency responsible for enforcing US labor law, filed the latest in a series of complaints against Nissan.

The NLRB alleged that Nissan had violated the law in these anti-union sessions by warning that workers would lose wages and benefits if they supported the union.

The NLRB also found that a supervisor at the plant told workers that if they spoke out against the union, he would personally ensure that they received increased wages and benefits.

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BeachDem  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:06:20am

HuffPo continues with great headlines:

FOUR-STAR GENERAL vs. FIVE-ALARM FIRE

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makeitstop  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:07:19am

re: #204 lawhawk

There’s no consistent message.

And in that vein - it looks like someone is starting to like the sound of ‘President Pence.’

I’m getting the feeling we’re approaching critical mass here. Something’s gotta give.

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Teukka  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:09:12am

re: #208 makeitstop

And in that vein - it looks like someone is starting to like the sound of ‘President Pence.’

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I’m getting the feeling we’re approaching critical mass here. Something’s gotta give.

*puts flak jacket and brain bucket on, ducks behind wall of tungsten bricks*

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:09:15am

How shitty are Trumps lawyers?

They still haven’t been able to get him to shut the fuck up on Twitter.

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:11:41am

re: #208 makeitstop

And in that vein - it looks like someone is starting to like the sound of ‘President Pence.’

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I’m getting the feeling we’re approaching critical mass here. Something’s gotta give.

Talk about between a rock and a hard place. I loathe the thought of President Pence.

I loathe the thought of nuclear annihilation more.

Mandated school prayer…to the appropriate god, of course. Pulpit puppets proselytizing for Pence. GAH.

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:15:01am

re: #211 MsJ

Talk about between a rock and a hard place. I loathe the thought of President Pence.

I loathe the thought of nuclear annihilation more.

Mandated school prayer…to the appropriate god, of course. Pulpit puppets proselytizing for Pence. GAH.

You can stop mandated school prayer by donating to groups like the ACLU, protesting, and voting. There’s not much you can do once the bombs go off.

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makeitstop  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:16:33am

re: #211 MsJ

Talk about between a rock and a hard place. I loathe the thought of President Pence.

I loathe the thought of nuclear annihilation more.

Mandated school prayer…to the appropriate god, of course. Pulpit puppets proselytizing for Pence. GAH.

I believe that should President Pence come to pass, he’ll be so crippled by scandal that he’ll be as ineffectual as Trump, but for different reasons.

And that’s going on the assumption that Pence himself is clean - and I have serious doubts about that.

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:17:19am

re: #120 Myron Falwell

I suspect Seth’s parents are feeling complete and utter rage.

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sagehen  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:17:26am
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lawhawk  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:18:33am

re: #210 Eclectic Cyborg

How shitty are Trumps lawyers?

They still haven’t been able to get him to shut the fuck up on Twitter.

During the campaign, Manafort got Trump to shut up for 48 hours at most before he started tweeting in traditional frontier gibberish again. That’s the closest anyone has gotten to disciplining the message from Trump and his inner circle.

Unless someone physically takes his phone away from him permanently, this is going to be an ongoing problem.

His lawyers are incompetent. They also chose to work for a client who is well known as a liar and incapable of remembering anything he says to anyone - constantly changing stories and a 2-man rule was necessary because of his constant lies and obfuscations.

No one can work well in that condition.

But I have no sympathy for Trump’s lawyers. They knew what they were getting into and they’re going to go down with Trump too. Lying about the lies can be grounds for obstruction of justice.

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jaunte  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:20:00am

re: #211 MsJ

Mandated school prayer…to the appropriate god, of course. Pulpit puppets proselytizing for Pence. GAH.

More about that:

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Sir John Barron  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:22:19am

re: #217 jaunte

More about that:

Down with Sharia Law!

Oh, wait….

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Jay C  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:23:14am

re: #193 jaunte

OK: I realize that for Fox News, the journalistic term “scoop” is defined as “a wide-bladed shovel used to collect ‘news’ while following a bull around”, but seriously: “Media sympathizes with MS-13”??

Of course, a brief examination of said “sympathy” reveals that it is basically criticism of President Trump’s broad-brush tarring of “immigrants” in general as vicious criminals….

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:23:17am

re: #215 sagehen

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:23:24am

President Pence won’t be great for America either, but I at least think he’d be a low risk for tweeting us into a nuclear war.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:23:25am

re: #210 Eclectic Cyborg

How shitty are Trumps lawyers?

They still haven’t been able to get him to shut the fuck up on Twitter.

And some of them are just liars, like Sekulow.

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:23:49am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:25:21am

re: #213 makeitstop

I believe that should President Pence come to pass, he’ll be so crippled by scandal that he’ll be as ineffectual as Trump, but for different reasons.

And that’s going on the assumption that Pence himself is clean - and I have serious doubts about that.

There is one path to salvation—
1) Elect Pelosi to Speaker.
2) Take Pence out of the succession.
3) Then shitcan Trump.

Nothing else leaves us better off.

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makeitstop  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:27:43am

re: #224 Decatur Deb

There is one path to salvation—
1) Elect Pelosi to Speaker.
2) Take Pence out of the succession.
3) Then shitcan Trump.

Nothing else leaves us better off.

Yep. Follow the Watergate model - get rid of Pence first.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:28:37am

re: #223 MsJ

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Sounds bogus. Any soldier knows it is appropriate to salute the president in saluting condtions. Last time I saw the Field Manual, that was not indoors (without a cover).

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:28:56am

Fuck you Trumpublicans. Fuck all of you. This is the saddest damn story.

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:29:43am

re: #226 Decatur Deb

Sounds bogus. Any soldier knows it is appropriate to salute the president in saluting condtions. Last time I saw the Field Manual, that was not indoors (without a cover).

Bogus or not, it made me laugh.

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ChuckJager95  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:30:02am

re: #225 makeitstop

Yep. Follow the Watergate model - get rid of Pence first.

I’m down for this, not only for the safety of our nation (and the world) but because I know President Pelosi would twist the knife harder into the far right than a Clinton election victory ever could have.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:30:19am

Good read

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:32:17am

my governor, dealing with the really important stuff…

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Sir John Barron  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:33:13am

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

my governor, dealing with the really important stuff…

Why did KY voters elect this shitgobblin?

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Decatur Deb  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:34:39am

re: #232 Sir John Barron

Why did KY voters elect this shitgobblin?

He promised to shitcan their health insurance. Can’t beat a platform like that.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:34:47am

re: #215 sagehen

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:35:16am
236
Decatur Deb  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:35:26am

re: #234 The Vicious Babushka

Worst Sam Kineson impersonation ever.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:35:31am

re: #227 MsJ

Fuck you Trumpublicans. Fuck all of you. This is the saddest damn story.

[Embedded content]

America, fuck yeah!

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Jay C  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:37:10am

re: #232 Sir John Barron

Why did KY voters elect this shitgobblin?

He put a spell on them utilizing the magic of a sinister rune:

(R)

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BeachDem  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:37:39am

Evidence that hair on fire idiocy is not a totally US phenom.

“What happens when a photo of some empty bus seats is posted to a disgusting Facebook group and nearly everyone thinks they see a bunch of burqas?”

washingtonpost.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:37:56am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:38:05am

re: #238 Jay C

He put a spell on them utilizing the magic of a sinister rune:

(R)

Ran a karefully krafted kampaign.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:38:15am

re: #238 Jay C

He put a spell on them utilizing the magic of a sinister rune:

(R)

“If elected, will you take healthcare away from people I don’t like?”

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Teukka  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:39:25am

re: #239 BeachDem

Evidence that hair on fire idiocy is not a totally US phenom.

“What happens when a photo of some empty bus seats is posted to a disgusting Facebook group and nearly everyone thinks they see a bunch of burqas?”

[Embedded content]

washingtonpost.com

Yeah, a local anti-racist group here in Sweden is getting so much mileage out of that one.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:39:38am

re: #236 Decatur Deb

Worst Sam Kineson impersonation ever.

Here’s his imitation of an Edsel grille:

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Decatur Deb  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:40:32am

re: #244 The Vicious Babushka

Here’s his imitation of an Edsel grille:

[Embedded content]

The much-maligned “Oldsmobile Sucking on a Lemon”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:41:58am

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

my governor, dealing with the really important stuff…

[Embedded content]

related:

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jaunte  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:42:34am
248
KGxvi  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:44:31am

The shit, it is getting real:

The White House worked with Fox News and a wealthy Republican donor to push a story about the murder of Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich, according to an explosive lawsuit filed Tuesday.

The complaint alleges that the conspiracy was created to distract from the Russia story

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jaunte  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:44:35am

“…Former senior State Department officials from both parties told me that eliminating “just” and “democratic” from the State Department’s list of desired outcomes is neither accidental nor inconsequential.

“The only significant difference is the deletion of justice and democracy,” said Elliott Abrams, who served as deputy national security adviser for global democracy strategy during the George W. Bush administration. “We used to want a just and democratic word, and now apparently we don’t.”
washingtonpost.com

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Decatur Deb  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:44:45am

re: #247 jaunte

Rex Tillerson has ordered @StateDept to rewrite its mission statement, removing any mention of promoting democracy.

If our government fosters democracy overseas, there is danger it could spread here.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:45:21am

re: #247 jaunte

Arbeit macht frei has a certain ring to it.

//

252
jaunte  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:45:28am

Always good to see our State Department taking dictation from Putin.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:45:31am

re: #250 Decatur Deb

If our government fosters democracy overseas, there is danger it could spread here.

Very important observation.

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:46:26am

re: #247 jaunte

Notice that as soon as Obama left office, we saw (and see) authoritarians take over many countries.

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Jay C  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:46:44am

re: #250 Decatur Deb

If our government fosters democracy overseas, there is danger it could spread here.

Yeah, really: after all, we wouldn’t want our own State Department giving people the wrong ideas….

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Sir John Barron  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:47:45am

re: #248 KGxvi

The shit, it is getting real:

The complaint alleges that the conspiracy was created to distract from the Russia story

Anybody would have created that conspiracy! Just politics!

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:48:31am

re: #249 jaunte

“The only significant difference is the deletion of justice and democracy,” said Elliott Abrams, who served as deputy national security adviser for global democracy strategy during the George W. Bush administration. “We used to want a just and democratic word, and now apparently we don’t.”

I think this is just further culmination of the PNAC crowd (of which Abrams was one). They didn’t want just…they wanted democratic puppets. Sorry, Elliott, you’re part of why we are where we are.

258
BeachDem  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:49:06am

re: #243 Teukka

Yeah, a local anti-racist group here in Sweden is getting so much mileage out of that one.

Like yesterday’s Jim Hoft protege’s pic of Native Americans giving the finger to Mt. Rushmore and shrieking that they should be deported. I read the comments on that thread and could feel my brain cells dying one by one.

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KGxvi  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:51:43am

re: #256 Sir John Barron

I just skimmed the complaint. They didn’t name the president as a party, but based on the allegations, he may be subject to a Deposition Subpoena. Basically, it looks like Fox News gave a copy of the unpublished story to the White House, the president read it and wanted it published. So they published it while either misrepresenting quotes and/or making them up in order to tell the story they wanted - which was that Trump didn’t collude with Russia.

I really can’t believe how crazy all of this is

260
The Vicious Babushka  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:54:59am

JARED: HURR HURR I’M TOO DUMB TO COLLUDE WITH ANYBODY!!!11!!!!

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Sir John Barron  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:56:51am

re: #248 KGxvi

The shit, it is getting real:

The complaint alleges that the conspiracy was created to distract from the Russia story

And the cycle starts again…
1. FaKe News!
2. A Dem conspiracy to take down Trump!
3. Meeting didn’t occur, WH didn’t coordinate
4. OK, meeting occurred by no actual collusion about story.
5. Yeah, meeting occurred WH and Fox colluded to publish fake news story. So what? What about Clinton Foundation?

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wheat-dogg  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:57:47am

re: #261 Sir John Barron

And the cycle starts again…
1. FaKe News!
2. A Dem conspiracy to take down Trump!
3. Meeting didn’t occur, WH didn’t coordinate
4. OK, meeting occurred by no actual collusion about story.
5. Yeah, meeting occurred WH and Fox colluded to publish fake news story. So what? What about Clinton Foundation?

And the uranium. Never forget the uranium.

263
freetoken  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:59:23am

“We’ve read enough books”.

Summarizes the entire Trump-event in one sentence.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:59:30am

re: #259 KGxvi

I just skimmed the complaint. They didn’t name the president as a party, but based on the allegations, he may be subject to a Deposition Subpoena. Basically, it looks like Fox News gave a copy of the unpublished story to the White House, the president read it and wanted it published. So they published it while either misrepresenting quotes and/or making them up in order to tell the story they wanted - which was that Trump didn’t collude with Russia.

I really can’t believe how crazy all of this is

Adding to the crazy, Ed Butowsky is a known collaborator with Steve Bannon and Breitbart bankroller Robert Mercer.

Butowsky conveniently deleted his Twitter account this morning.

Bannon was a target of the Mooch, in no uncertain terms.

Sean Spicer — who left with his hair on fire after Trump hired the Mooch — confirmed to NPR that Trump saw the Seth Rich story before it was posted on Fox News’ website.

Bill Shine, Roger Ailes’ protégé — who conveniently left Fox just before the Seth Rich “story” blew up in Fox’s face — wants to take over for the Mooch.

I mean, this is too much to be merely coincidental.

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KGxvi  Aug 1, 2017 • 9:59:40am

Ok, this is a flat out amazing allegation if true:

3. To lend support to this shift the blame theory, Zimmerman, with the knowledge and support of Butowsky, fabricated two quotations and attributed them to Mr. Wheeler:
 “‘My investigation up to this point shows there was some degree of email exchange between Seth Rich and Wikileaks,’ said Wheeler.”
 “‘My investigation shows someone within the DC government, Democratic National Committee or Clinton team is blocking the murder investigation from going forward,’ Wheeler said. ‘That is unfortunate. Seth Rich’s murder is unsolved as a result of that.’”
4. Mr. Wheeler - who was the only named source quoted in the article - did not make these statements. According to Butowsky, the statements were falsely attributed to Mr. Wheeler because that is the way the President wanted the article. Zimmerman, Butowsky and Fox had created fake news to advance President Trump’s agenda. Mr. Wheeler was subsequently forced to correct the false record and, as a result, lost all credibility in the eyes of the public.

This was filed in federal court, federal judges don’t stand for much bullshit in their courtrooms… so no attorney is going to put an allegation like that in a complaint without having evidence that they can provide when discovery starts.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:04:42am

re: #265 KGxvi

Ok, this is a flat out amazing allegation if true:

This was filed in federal court, federal judges don’t stand for much bullshit in their courtrooms… so no attorney is going to put an allegation like that in a complaint without having evidence that they can provide when discovery starts.

Discovery will be very interesting, because it is sure to turn up more shit about this case.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:10:21am

WORLD: OH GAWD MAH JIMMIES

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Dr. Matt  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:10:44am
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lawhawk  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:12:59am

Dayam… this is good. And this is the tip of the iceberg of what the GOP faces going forward. More and faster.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:14:46am

re: #239 BeachDem

Evidence that hair on fire idiocy is not a totally US phenom.

“What happens when a photo of some empty bus seats is posted to a disgusting Facebook group and nearly everyone thinks they see a bunch of burqas?”

[Embedded content]

washingtonpost.com

It shows how deep these knee-jerk reactions are seated…

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makeitstop  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:17:43am

re: #269 lawhawk

Dayam… this is good. And this is the tip of the iceberg of what the GOP faces going forward. More and faster.

Brava.

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Jay C  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:18:54am
VP PENCE REASSURES GEORGIA OF U.S. SUPPORT, DENOUNCES RUSSIAN AGGRESSION

So iow, “for anybody in Georgia with money, you should look into alternative investments - in New York real estate, maybe, for safety. Call 202-xxx-xxxx, extension xxx: ask for Jared”

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:19:29am

re: #188 jaunte

[Embedded content]

I think we’ve found the next Senate Majority Leader.

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austin_blue  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:19:35am

re: #223 MsJ

[Embedded content]

Marines don’t salute indoors unless they are under arms.

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Skip Intro  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:20:26am

re: #159 wheat-dogg

Yesterday I was wondering if there was something else coming down the pike re: Trump & Co. Today I have my answer.

Every day. Every single day.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:20:43am

re: #267 The Vicious Babushka

WORLD: OH GAWD MAH JIMMIES

[Embedded content]

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wheat-dogg  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:21:11am

re: #275 Skip Intro

Every day. Every single day.

I know. It’s as predictable as the sunrise.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:22:44am

Huh. I wonder what would have caused Sean Spicer to suddenly reverse course like that. //

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BeachDem  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:24:16am

re: #269 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Dayam… this is good. And this is the tip of the iceberg of what the GOP faces going forward. More and faster.

Another bright spot for Dems—Emerge America, training Dem women to run for office:

2017-2018 Emerge Candidates
(248 women as of August 2017, 195 women in 2017 and 53 women in 2018)
emergeamerica.org

In the 2016 election, 70% of our 214 alumnae on the November ballot won their elections
emergeamerica.org

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:32:12am

Mattis and Kelly also agreed in the earliest weeks of Trump’s presidency that one of them should remain in the United States at all times to keep tabs on the orders rapidly emerging from the White House, according to a person familiar with the discussions. The official insisted on anonymity in order to discuss the administration’s internal dynamics.

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:33:26am

re: #269 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Dayam… this is good. And this is the tip of the iceberg of what the GOP faces going forward. More and faster.

When that video started, I would have sworn that was a 12 year old boy. I cannot believe that woman served for 20 years. My god. I have been living my life poorly because I look closer to kellyanne than this gal.

Good on her! More power, sister!

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:34:02am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:34:07am

re: #267 The Vicious Babushka

WORLD: OH GAWD MAH JIMMIES

Barf. Spit.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:36:38am

re: #267 The Vicious Babushka

WORLD: OH GAWD MAH JIMMIES

Wouldn’t a “strong” leader say something, anything, about Putin expelling hundreds of U.S. diplomatic personnel?

285
Myron Falwell  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:37:19am

Kelly is going in a different direction. Gee I wonder why. /

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:37:35am

re: #284 Sir John Barron

Wouldn’t a “strong” leader say something, anything, about Putin expelling hundreds of U.S. diplomatic personnel?

Yeah, no shit. So far……..bupkis.

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:37:38am

According to something I just read, to go into recess, the Senate requires sixty votes. Thus, Democrats can filibuster the recess. One way this has consequences is that the Russian sanctions bill was presented to the president on the 28th. He has until the 8th to decide if Congress doesn’t go into recess.

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Kragar  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:39:14am
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:39:53am

re: #287 Belafon

According to something I just read, to go into recess, the Senate requires sixty votes. Thus, Democrats can filibuster the recess. One way this has consequences is that the Russian sanctions bill was presented to the president on the 28th. He has until the 8th to decide if Congress doesn’t go into recess.

He’ll make the decision between the 9th and 10th holes.

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:40:16am

re: #288 Kragar

Did Trump officially send out an executive order?

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:40:55am

re: #288 Kragar

[Embedded content]

It begins.

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Jay C  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:42:02am

re: #284 Sir John Barron

Wouldn’t a “strong” leader say something, anything, about Putin expelling hundreds of U.S. diplomatic personnel?

Can you imagine how President Obama and SoS Clinton or Kerry might be dealing with this situation? Or at least what they might be saying, as opposed to the disgraceful mix of silence and deflection we’re getting from the current malAdministration? Nothing, AFAICT, from the WH: State seems MIA as well (Though Sec Tillerson DID move to back off from US positions/policies for democracy-promotion worldwide: must keep attention on the important stuff)

293
Barefoot Grin  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:45:25am

Unfortunately, the WH/Fox collaboration over Seth Rich has brought out all the CT people on Twitter all over again.

294
Sir John Barron  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:49:02am

re: #292 Jay C

Can you imagine how President Obama and SoS Clinton or Kerry might be dealing with this situation? Or at least what they might be saying, as opposed to the disgraceful mix of silence and deflection we’re getting from the current malAdministration? Nothing, AFAICT, from the WH: State seems MIA as well (Though Sec Tillerson DID move to back off from US positions/policies for democracy-promotion worldwide: must keep attention on the important stuff)

Fox would be killing Obama or Hillary for appeasement/weakness.

295
dangerman  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:49:12am

it appears that rasmussen has gone past 60% total disapprove

the spread is -22

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Sir John Barron  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:49:55am

re: #295 dangerman

it appears that rasmussen has gone past 60% total disapprove

the spread is -22

I wonder why DJT hasn’t tweeted this poll lately.

/

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:51:27am

re: #286 Dr Lizardo

Should kick a bunch more of theirs out. But then he does not want to piss off his boss.

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:51:33am

re: #296 Sir John Barron

I wonder why DJT hasn’t tweeted this poll lately.

/

“I’m at 60%. Best president ever!”

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Stanley Sea  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:53:26am

re: #290 Belafon

Did Trump officially send out an executive order?

Nope.

It was an addled tweet aimed at his religious masters.

300
Belafon  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:57:46am

re: #299 Stanley Sea

Nope.

It was an addled tweet aimed at his religious masters.

Thanks. I remembered the tweet. I was wondering if he’d made it official.

301
Dr Lizardo  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:57:50am

So, a sanity break - with a nautical theme.

Time Team s20 special - the lost submarine of WWI

Presented by Sir Tony Robinson (yep, that’s right……Baldrick himself, of Blackadder fame).

I love this show and there’s a lot of Time Team episodes on YouTube.

302
The Vicious Babushka  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:59:21am

STOP TRYING TO “UNDERSTAND” THESE BROKEN PEOPLE

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Jay C  Aug 1, 2017 • 10:59:28am

re: #288 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Interesting stat:

military.com quoted Admiral Paul Zukunft, saying that his first action upon hearing Trump’s ban was to reach out to all 13 members of the Coast Guard that self-identified as transgender.

SO, according to Wikipedia, the USCG has 36,325 “active-duty” personnel; and 44,035 others: reservist, auxiliarists and civilians.
And out of all these folks, (80,000+), they have THIRTEEN transpeople?
THIRTEEN? How on Earth is this any sort of serious problem? Adm. Zukunft deserves much positive praise for this: unfortunately, an abrupt cashiering (or reassignment to the Antarctic) is likier to be his reward,,,,

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jaunte  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:01:10am

re: #303 Jay C

How on Earth is this any sort of serious problem?

More evidence that the R’s transgender “problem” is all about finding a presumably defenseless scapegoat and rallying their bigot base.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:01:20am

Definitely hit the image button

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Kragar  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:03:32am
307
jaunte  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:05:06am
308
Belafon  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:06:17am

re: #307 jaunte

MSNBC, CNN, WaPo, NYT, all have good reporters, but then they also have people that produce shit like this.

309
KGxvi  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:07:39am

re: #278 Myron Falwell

[Embedded content]

Huh. I wonder what would have caused Sean Spicer to suddenly reverse course like that. //

Probably receiving a document similar to this.

ETA: or this.

(They’d come from different people, but the second one couldn’t be issued… yet)

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dangerman  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:07:51am

re: #288 Kragar

[Embedded content]’I will not break faith’: Coast Guard admiral defies Trump order to ban transgender service members rawstory.com

since i havent been following every story, has there been anything from the white house other than the original tweets? anything more “official” - you know, like in writing or ….

311
dangerman  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:08:22am

re: #290 Belafon

Did Trump officially send out an executive order?

i should read the whole thread before I…

312
Belafon  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:08:31am

re: #310 dangerman

since i havent been following every story, has there been anything from the white house other than the original tweets? anything more “official” - you know, like in writing or ….

I asked that above. Trump’s tweets haven’t been turned into official policy.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:08:48am

re: #307 jaunte

314
dangerman  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:09:27am

re: #293 Barefoot Grin

Unfortunately, the WH/Fox collaboration over Seth Rich has brought out all the CT people on Twitter all over again.

predictable and inevitable

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:09:39am

“Is this Trumps chance to finally pivot?”

NO.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:10:20am

re: #313 Dr. Matt

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:11:28am

re: #313 Dr. Matt

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jaunte  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:11:29am

re: #315 Eclectic Cyborg

“Is this Trumps chance to finally pivot?”

NO.

“Lurching to futile self-protection” is his one move.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:12:05am

re: #316 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Dayum

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:13:29am

re: #288 Kragar

‘I will not break faith’: Coast Guard admiral defies Trump order to ban transgender service members

What will DT do if enough high ranking officers simply refuse to implement his orders? Have them all cashiered?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:13:49am

re: #319 Sir John Barron

Dayum

I’m from Illinois. There’s no reason that this President shouldn’t follow the pattern that Illinois governors do. Get elected, abuse your power, go to prison. It’s a simple, time-tested process.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:14:16am

re: #300 Belafon

Thanks. I remembered the tweet. I was wondering if he’d made it official.

As of Donald Trump, Tweets are an official channel of White House communication…

323
jaunte  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:14:46am

Forget about your childish deficit concerns, that was only for the last president.

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KGxvi  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:21:16am

re: #323 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Forget about your childish deficit concerns, that was only for the last president.

Deficit starts with “D”, so does Democrats. Thus it is a Democrat problem

Relatedly, Russia starts with “R”, making it a Republican problem.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:25:34am

“… Chuck Rosenberg, the DEA’s acting chief, sent an email to his entire workforce on Saturday expressing concern that Trump, his boss, had “condoned police misconduct regarding the treatment of individuals placed under arrest by law enforcement.”

“In writing to you, I seek to advance no political, partisan, or personal agenda. Nor do I believe that a Special Agent or Task Force Officer of the DEA would mistreat a defendant. I know that you would not,” Rosenberg wrote.

“So, why do I write? I write to offer a strong reaffirmation of the operating principles to which we, as law enforcement professionals, adhere,” he continued. “I write because we have an obligation to speak out when something is wrong. That’s what law enforcement officers do. That’s what you do. We fix stuff. At least, we try.” …”’

… “We must earn and keep the public trust and continue to hold ourselves to the very highest standards,” he wrote. “Ours is an honorable profession and, so, we will always act honorably.” …”

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wrenchwench  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:27:27am

Customer #1: Came in to pay me for what I did to his bike a month ago. I told him at the time that I would forget, even thought it was written down, and I WAS RIGHT. I forgot. Then he apologized for being late with it (I had no idea) and explained that he had run out of whatever and had to buy the street version from a friend, and he got messed up. But he’s OK now, because he got his prescription, but he wants to get off that, but they won’t take him in the program to kick it, because he’s not shooting up. But he’s OK for now (he’s been a customer for 20 years.)

Customer #2: Got his flat fix, tire replaced, looked into replacing the bike, because it’s his main ride and has a lot wrong with it. I only heard half of what he was saying to his female companion, but ‘the court’ wants $700 from him, he paid $100, and will make payments on the rest. Got a rack & basket so he can haul groceries. He’ll do the installation, saving him money, and me time.

Oh, look. I got CLed.

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weave  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:29:10am

re: #305 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

Definitely hit the image button

Gawd, reading those tweet replies makes me happy I’m old and married.

(/runs off to hug his wife)

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sagehen  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:30:55am

re: #308 Belafon

MSNBC, CNN, WaPo, NYT, all have good reporters, but then they also have people program directors and a corporate suite that demand they produce shit like this.

When broadcast networks and CNN were each their own, self-contained company, they did good journalism.

But when Comcast is desperately pursuing a merger, or whatever deregulation their cable division yearns for, or when NBC used to belong to GE/Westinghouse… the news division is a red-headed step-child whose only function is to advance the parent company’s other interests.

Anybody remember when FL Gov Jeb Bush threatened Disneyland’s property tax abatement if he didn’t like how ABC news covered his brother? Also, Fahrenheit 911 had to find a new distributor.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:34:50am

re: #308 Belafon

MSNBC, CNN, WaPo, NYT, all have good reporters, but then they also have people that produce shit like this.

Thank you. My oldest son is a sports writer for MSNBC :-)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:48:32am

re: #324 KGxvi

Deficit starts with “D”, so does Democrats. Thus it is a Democrat problem

Relatedly, Russia starts with “R”, making it a Republican problem.

It’s all so simple now
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sagehen  Aug 1, 2017 • 11:50:24am

re: #324 KGxvi

Deficit starts with “D”, so does Democrats. Thus it is a Democrat problem

Relatedly, Russia starts with “R”, making it a Republican problem.

Politics is like driving a stick shift.

D to move forward.
R for reverse.


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Why You Can’t Take a Flag to a National Cemetery Why You Can't Take a Flag to Arlington (or other national veteran cemeteries) Stars and Stripes, reprinting with permission an article from the Washington Post, explains why you cannot take a flag to Arlington National Cemetery (or any other ...
Anymouse 🌹
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Another Democrat Starting Trump Impeachment Process Come on guys, get behind the bill. All of us. we should get behind this bill as it emerges as fast as we attacked the BCA. Following Donald Trump’s equivocating of white supremacists and those who oppose them in ...
Unshaken Defiance
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How Militias Became the Private Police for White Supremacists Magazine Guns to a protest? Clubs? We can not tolerate anti American militias. The bloody weekend in Charlottesville that began with several hundred chanting white supremacists on a torch-lit march will long be remembered for the searing image of a ...
Unshaken Defiance
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Starting in 2018, Police Dogs Injured in the Line of Duty Can Be Transported by EMS to Veterinary Clinics ST. CLAIR COUNTY, IL – Ambulances are for people. It’s always been the law of the land. In Illinois, it'll soon be "almost always". Illinois Governor, Bruce Rauner, signed House Bill 2661, Tuesday. It will allow police dogs to ...
Birth Control Works
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The New War on Birth Control - Pacific Standard Although it wasn't clear at the time, the attack on Phillips marked the beginning of a new anti-contraception movement—conceived in the U.S., but unfolding in Africa, where women's frustrations with the dearth of safe, effective family planning options are ...
Birth Control Works
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M83 - Do It, Try It (David Wilson Video) M83 - Do It, Try It video by David Wilson. Following the video's premiere at Sundance Next Fest it is now available to watch online. The track is taken from M83's seventh studio album Junk, available to buy & ...
Thanos
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Marvel’s the Defenders It’s all coming together. Learn about The Defenders from the stars themselves: Charlie Cox, Krysten Ritter, Mike Colter and Finn Jones. Marvel’s The Defenders premieres globally August 18, 2017, only on Netflix. Watch The Defenders on Netflix: netflix.com SUBSCRIBE: ...
Thanos
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AG Madigan Issues Guidelines for Responding to Sexual Assault Crimes “We took a comprehensive look at why sexual assault survivors rarely report their crimes to law enforcement, and it was clear that our criminal justice system can and must respond, investigate and better support survivors,” Illinois Attorney General Lisa ...
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This 91-Year-Old Woman Just Earned Her Bachelor’s Degree After 10 Years of Studying The back-to-school commercials have started airing. The summer reading lists are coming due. It’s almost that time of year. And if students aren’t quite looking forward to getting back into their classrooms this month for another school year, the ...
Birth Control Works
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Give the Gift of LifeCJ was a good kid, he was a gentle soul. I could see a little of his mother and father in him. I didn't know we were alike in one way, that we were both addicts, until he was brain ...
Shropshire Slasher
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