Video: Joy Reid Interviews Former Fox News Guest About Eric Bolling’s Alleged Sexual Harassment

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This morning on AM Joy, Joy Anne Reid interviewed former frequent Fox news guest Caroline Heldman about her allegations that Fox host (and inveterate racist) Eric Bolling sexually harassed her and other women.

Bolling was suspended by Fox News yesterday after the Huffington Post published this article by Yashar Ali: Fox News Host Sent Unsolicited Lewd Text Messages To Colleagues, Sources Say.

And by the way, if you take a run around the right wing blogs today, you’ll find them all viciously attacking and smearing Caroline Heldman.

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jeffreyw  Aug 6, 2017 • 11:54:05am

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Ripe serranos for hot giardiniera

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2017 • 12:03:39pm
And by the way, if you take a run around the right wing blogs today, you’ll find them all viciously attacking and smearing Caroline Heldman.

You ever want to show a wingnut as a misogynist piece of shit? Bring up a sex scandal involving a prominent wingnut and almost immediately all those assholes who cry “We’re not biased against women” start frothing at the mouth and screaming “SHE’S A LYING WHORE!!!”

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BigPapa  Aug 6, 2017 • 12:08:44pm

Why have none of you told me the glory of roasted cauliflower with peas and onions and a touch of curry?

I’m gonna blow out my wife tonight but it will be glorious.

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sagehen  Aug 6, 2017 • 12:10:28pm

re: #1 jeffreyw

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I hope you’re wearing gloves and goggles. Otherwise, this is likely to end in tears.

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2017 • 12:13:05pm

Fox News exists because Rupert Murdoch believed he could make money off the gullible, the ignorant, and the atavists who were butthurt over social changes.

Rupert was correct.

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2017 • 12:16:30pm

The wingnuts who bought the story that Anthony Weiner initiated a relationship with a 15 yr old girl to send her dick pics express “disbelief” about a story involving a grown woman receiving unsolicited pics from Eric Bolling.

Surely it has nothing to do with partisan politics…/////

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 6, 2017 • 12:32:12pm

re: #6 Targetpractice

The wingnuts who bought the story that Anthony Weiner initiated a relationship with a 15 yr old girl to send her dick pics express “disbelief” about a story involving a grown woman receiving unsolicited pics from Eric Bolling.

Surely it has nothing to do with partisan politics…/////

The wingnut rallying cry: IOKIYAR!

Think of the impeachment of Clinton: First Newt resigned because it turned out he was having an affair; then Livingston, the next in line, couldn’t take over because he also had an affair in his background, and finally Hastert became speaker. Of course, it took almost 2 decades before the terrible truth about Hastert was revealed.

It always appears that those most fervent in ferreting out or denouncing sexual misdeeds are themselves guilty of the same sin.

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2017 • 12:34:47pm

Seriously, Murdoch many years ago realized that certain markets in the US were being underserved, as far as television was concerned. He’s stated so. He knew exactly what he was doing. None of this is a secret. It’s not conspiracy. It’s not fantasy.

Murdoch knew that the television news business, dominated by CBS and ABC and NBC, and then CNN, were run by and written by the so-called “elite” - people from the major journalism schools and from the urban centers of NY and LA.

Hate him ( and there is much for which to hate him), but his jumping into a market others had overlooked is how people become rich.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 6, 2017 • 12:35:50pm
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PhillyPretzel  Aug 6, 2017 • 12:36:51pm

re: #8 freetoken

Exactly. I am not fond of that muckraker but that is his business model.

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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2017 • 12:38:40pm

Well that didn’t take long—McInidiot leaves CNN…

McEnany signaled her CNN departure yesterday with a non-specific Tweet from her Twitter account that now describes her as a “Former CNN Commentator”

One day later, she’s a conductor on the yam express:

This morning, McEnany hosted a taped news-of-the-week segment on Donald Trump’s official Facebook page.

deadline.com

Get yer red hot blond propaganda here!

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Dr. Matt  Aug 6, 2017 • 12:41:01pm

re: #8 freetoken

In a nutshell, Murdoch gave the dittoheads a TV station.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 6, 2017 • 12:42:15pm
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freetoken  Aug 6, 2017 • 12:45:03pm

re: #12 Dr. Matt

Murdoch knew the masses would never be customers of the likes of Buckley, because, well, they couldn’t read his stuff.

The McCarthy/Wallace wing of the American population were just not getting what they wanted out of “news”. It was no more difficult for Murdoch to realize this than it was for Hefner years earlier to realize he could make lots of money in America by making acceptable pictures of naked women in a periodical.

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ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2017 • 12:53:56pm

re: #8 freetoken

Seriously, Murdoch many years ago realized that certain markets in the US were being underserved, as far as television was concerned. He’s stated so. He knew exactly what he was doing. None of this is a secret. It’s not conspiracy. It’s not fantasy.

Murdoch knew that the television news business, dominated by CBS and ABC and NBC, and then CNN, were run by and written by the so-called “elite” - people from the major journalism schools and from the urban centers of NY and LA.

Hate him ( and there is much for which to hate him), but his jumping into a market others had overlooked is how people become rich.

There should be no “market” for news as far as a demographic group getting facts in a different manner than another group. Facts are facts, they shouldn’t have to be fit to a consumer group.

All Murdoch did was feed those that didn’t like facts something they did like, hearing what they wanted to hear.

All it has done was blow everything up to now everyone is doing what you say in your comment. They are looking to tailor how facts are presented to ‘sell’ to the largest viewer base they can build for ratings to sell advertising.

I heard something the other day about how news used to be the original big 3’s “civic duty” for a couple hours a day. They didn’t worry about getting ratings as it was a duty to the public to have to cover the news in a real manner pretty much by FCC decree. Public address messaging pre se.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 6, 2017 • 12:56:57pm

re: #12 Dr. Matt

In a nutshell, Murdoch gave the dittoheads a TV station.

Because a half-hour with Rush Limbaugh blathering in front of a TV camera just wasn’t enough.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2017 • 12:59:22pm
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jeffreyw  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:01:51pm

re: #4 sagehen

I hope you’re wearing gloves and goggles. Otherwise, this is likely to end in tears.

I learned about hot pepper precautions circa 1976 when I raised jalapenos in my backyard garden. I sliced a peck or so sans gloves and then felt the need to take a leak. I found that a quick rinse of the hands under the tap was not sufficient.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:03:09pm

re: #18 jeffreyw

I learned about hot pepper precautions circa 1976 when I raised jalapenos in my backyard garden. I sliced a peck or so sans gloves and then felt the need to take a leak. I found that a quick rinse of the hands under the tap was not sufficient.

Ow!

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:03:24pm

I’m just going to start blocking people on Twitter who lecture me that I should “read the article” because they don’t agree with my take on it. I read the fucking article. I always read the fucking article.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:06:54pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

You ever want to show a wingnut as a misogynist piece of shit? Bring up a sex scandal involving a prominent wingnut and almost immediately all those assholes who cry “We’re not biased against women” start frothing at the mouth and screaming “SHE’S A LYING WHORE!!!”

ALL WOMENS WHO ACCUSE MENS OF RAPE ARE LYING SLUTS EXCEPT FOR PAULA JONES & JUANITA BRODDERICK!!!!!1!!!!!

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:07:14pm

This is the exact opposite of a jeffreyw post.

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ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:07:30pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

I’m just going to start blocking people on Twitter who lecture me that I should “read the article” because they don’t agree with my take on it. I read the fucking article. I always read the fucking article.

I always see that “read the article” comment as a put down. They are saying you don’t understand and need to read it again because you are ignorant or don’t have their particular keen insights…blah, blah.

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jeffreyw  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:08:07pm

re: #15 ObserverArt

I’m so old I remember them calling CBS the Tiffany Network. They called the CBS Evening News the Jewel in the Crown.

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jeffreyw  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:09:36pm

re: #22 goddamnedfrank

This is the exact opposite of a jeffreyw post.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:09:42pm

re: #24 jeffreyw

I remember that too. I also remember when the evening news actually provided information and not just talking points.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:09:43pm

re: #5 freetoken

re: #8 freetoken

Many people, companies and studios tried to set up a so-called “fourth television network” after Dumont’s 1956 demise. Rupert succeeded where countless others failed because he outbid a stagnant CBS for NFC football games (thanks, Laurence Tisch!), then entered side deals to switch many legacy “big 3” affiliates in major markets to Fox, with repercussions felt across the country for years thereafter.

And because of that, it enabled Rupert to team up with Roger Ailes and helped bring his dream of 24-hour GOP TV to the inevitable conclusion.

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dangerman  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:10:24pm

re: #22 goddamnedfrank

This is the exact opposite of a jeffreyw post.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:11:08pm

re: #28 dangerman

that kid aint happy
or even licking the thing

Pretty sure his puppy is being held hostage.

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:11:41pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

I’m just going to start blocking people on Twitter who lecture me that I should “read the article” because they don’t agree with my take on it. I read the fucking article. I always read the fucking article.

My favorite are the ones who insist you “read the article” when you call BS on it, but when you point out a particular section that totally undermines their supposed interpretation, they suddenly don’t want to change the subject.

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lawhawk  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:12:42pm

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

The problems with Fox News aren’t just that it’s a hive of scum and villainy enabling misogynists like Bolling to create a hostile work environment. It’s that it’s weaponizing agitprop and that a segment of the population are impervious to facts and logic because they think all other media outlets are the ones lying.

That’s the problem right there.

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The same news outlet that is pushing that a grand jury is undemocratic is deciding that they should skip indictments and a grand jury and go straight to prosecuting Hillary.

For a news outlet that claims Republicans and right wingers are the ones who adhere to the US Constitution, it’s sure curious how they ignore everything that’s actually in the Constitution unless it’s a clause of the 2A.

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:13:28pm

re: #15 ObserverArt

For a long time the news divisions were not money makers. TV companies made money by corporate sponsors of specific shows in the beginning of TV, transitioning then to selling ad time on a per minute basis.

My earliest TV memories… can’t quite place them, but they were the end of the corporate sponsor shows. Ford was Ed Sullivan’s sponsor, for example.

Anyway, a TV company couldn’t have their news program be sponsored by a single company any more, and have the news not be bought by a company. Thus news shows were not going to be money makers.

But this then is why “news” became entertainment - to draw in more viewers, to entice advertisements. After CNN started it was clear that cable was someday going to replace over-the-air broadcasting, and thus the race was on.

I suspect the news industry of my childhood is not only gone but will never come back.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:13:47pm

re: #18 jeffreyw

I learned about hot pepper precautions circa 1976 when I raised jalapenos in my backyard garden. I sliced a peck or so sans gloves and then felt the need to take a leak. I found that a quick rinse of the hands under the tap was not sufficient.

I took out my contact lenses after playing with habañeros, once

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:19:06pm

The transition from broadcast to cable to on-demand reminds of Adam Curtis’ The Century of the Self.

(So much reminds me of The Century of the Self - I don’t know if Curtis made one big tautology, or if he happened upon one of the more important topics of our time.)

Hyper-individualism is behind so much of what we see - our technology is allowing us to convince ourselves that we’re each as an individual the center of the world.

However, the joke is on us.

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:20:00pm

re: #31 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

The problems with Fox News aren’t just that it’s a hive of scum and villainy enabling misogynists like Bolling to create a hostile work environment. It’s that it’s weaponizing agitprop and that a segment of the population are impervious to facts and logic because they think all other media outlets are the ones lying.

That’s the problem right there.

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The same news outlet that is pushing that a grand jury is undemocratic is deciding that they should skip indictments and a grand jury and go straight to prosecuting Hillary.

For a news outlet that claims Republicans and right wingers are the ones who adhere to the US Constitution, it’s sure curious how they ignore everything that’s actually in the Constitution unless it’s a clause of the 2A.

In the alt-universe that Faux seems to exist in, Hillary Clinton is the embattled winner of the 2016 election who is under threat of impeachment and Donald Trump is the victim of a grand gov’t conspiracy to ruin his good name.

Also, Bizarro Superman’s latest film is a box office hit over there.

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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:20:38pm
And by the way, if you take a run around the right wing blogs today, you’ll find them all viciously attacking and smearing Caroline Heldman.

Nevertheless, she persisted.

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:24:03pm

For all you trekkies out there, the latest from Midnight Edge on the new show:

Star Trek Discovery Midnight’s Edge Roundtable Discussion

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Belafon  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:24:33pm

re: #31 lawhawk

“Grand juries are the most undemocratic device ever created.”

By our founding fathers.

If you ignore the 3/5th rule.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:26:31pm

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lawhawk  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:28:41pm

So, someone threw an IED at a Minneapolis area mosque, doing considerable damage but thankfully no injuries.

That’s a domestic terror attack, and one that Trump and his cronies have thus far refused to address.

It’s the wrong kind of terrorism or mass violence.

A Muslim is a perp to the Trump cabal, not the victim.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:28:52pm

re: #39 Stanley Sea

And some of the tweets were not available. Oh dear this is going nowhere.

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:29:35pm

By the way, “Judge” Jeanine hasn’t sat on a bench in over 20 years, and hasn’t been DA in over a decade, so you couldn’t find a more naked appeal to authority on TV. One might almost suspect the reason she wants Hillary behind bars so badly is because she was forced by her own party to drop her US Senate bid in ‘06 after polls showed Hillary would have whipped her ass 60-30%.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:38:33pm

re: #23 ObserverArt

I always see that “read the article” comment as a put down. They are saying you don’t understand and need to read it again because you are ignorant or don’t have their particular keen insights…blah, blah.

That’s exactly what it is - an insult.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:41:02pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

That’s exactly what it is - an insult.

Also a little bit of projection - most of the people who tell you to RTFA do not do such themselves. There’s an element of, “I never read the articles or take time to understand their conclusions, therefore I’m going to assume you don’t either and be a pretentious jackass.”

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:45:11pm

The folks who tell you to “RTFA” when you don’t reach the same conclusion they did are (in my experience) the same people who will insist that they sat through the whole of a person’s official testimony and know what was said, but when you point out a portion that totally undermines their argument admit they just caught the highlights on the “news.”

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:45:22pm

I’m so sick of these “Jeff Flake is taking a brave stand” bullshit hot takes.

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:47:50pm

re: #46 goddamnedfrank

I’m so sick of these “Jeff Flake is taking a brave stand” bullshit hot takes.

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makeitstop  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:49:21pm

A thread about ‘Trump TV.’

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I watched the episode with Kayliegh McIdiot. This is straight up Dear Leader shit.

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dangerman  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:49:36pm

re: #39 Stanley Sea

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Belafon  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:50:32pm
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makeitstop  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:51:03pm

re: #49 dangerman

shorter:
hillary powered through pneumonia..got slammed

trump needs 17 days off after 6 mos of work…mostly crickets

Trump needs to ride a golf cart at an international meeting while other leaders walk - zero mentions on US news outlets

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Belafon  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:51:15pm

re: #48 makeitstop

A thread about ‘Trump TV.’

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I watched the episode with Kayliegh McIdiot. This is straight up Dear Leader shit.

Will Fox enable it or view it as competition?

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Belafon  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:51:53pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:52:08pm

re: #50 Belafon

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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:53:57pm
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Naturally, Knapp warns against anthropomorphizing these findings, and she is completely right. There is a world of difference between howler monkeys and humans, especially with regard to sexual selection.

And yet, the study still conjures up visions of dudes who ride incomprehensibly loud motorcycles, or who catcall women on the street. Far from coming off as masculine, this kind of thing reeks of overcompensation in other, more sensitive areas. As the saying goes: the empty vessel makes the loudest sound, and it seems that may be especially true when the vessel in question is balls.

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Belafon  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:55:18pm

I keep watching the last 40 minutes of Hacksaw Ridge over and over, the parts where people figure out Desmond Doss is no coward. And it makes me even angrier at the idiots who want to kick trans people out and claim that it will make the military stronger. These people are volunteering for a country that has a huge segment of the population that doesn’t like them for who they are. They’re exactly the people I want around me when things get tough.

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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:55:41pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

Considering the corporate culture at Faux, it’s not surprising that they readily pushed the “locker room talk” horseshit last year.

That seems a fitting lead-in to my comment.

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makeitstop  Aug 6, 2017 • 1:56:33pm
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The Moonbat-Wingnut Convergence that we used to joke about here is real.

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Belafon  Aug 6, 2017 • 2:00:47pm

re: #58 makeitstop

Is the quote by the video what the video is about? I just want to make sure because we’ve lost some means of verification by having an image.

I don’t like TYT, and I think this is who they are, but I want to be able to provide backup.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 6, 2017 • 2:03:37pm

re: #46 goddamnedfrank

I’m so sick of these “Jeff Flake is taking a brave stand” bullshit hot takes.

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Flakey Jeff is acting just like every other RepubliKKKlan—He’s looking out for #1!

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2017 • 2:03:38pm

Remember when there were predictions by wingnuts that the country would dissolve into violence if Obama won reelection? Or if “Emailgate” ended without criminal charges for Hillary?

The wolf’s not coming, Roger. Give it up.

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makeitstop  Aug 6, 2017 • 2:05:17pm

re: #59 Belafon

Is the quote by the video what the video is about? I just want to make sure because we’ve lost some means of verification by having an image.

I don’t like TYT, and I think this is who they are, but I want to be able to provide backup.

Here’s the video.

Robert Mueller: Establishment Sweetheart Helped Bush Sell The Iraq War

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mmmirele  Aug 6, 2017 • 2:06:22pm

re: #61 Joe Bacon 🌹

Flakey Jeff is acting just like every other RepubliKKKlan—He’s looking out for #1!

I’m still voting for the (D) come next election, but I might register as an (R) to do my part in throwing a monkey wrench into the primary.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 6, 2017 • 2:06:25pm

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Semper Fi  Aug 6, 2017 • 2:06:28pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

Considering the corporate culture at Faux, it’s not surprising that they readily pushed the “locker room talk” horseshit last year.

Thank you…I’ll never spell it F-O-X News again. I have never considered them a legitimate news network. FAUX News is perfect.

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2017 • 2:06:46pm

re: #63 makeitstop

Here’s the video.

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“We don’t support Trump! We’re totally opposed to him! Now watch as we defend him every which way we can because our whole theory of the ‘16 loss is Hillary was a horrible candidate!”

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Decatur Deb  Aug 6, 2017 • 2:13:48pm

re: #58 makeitstop

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The Moonbat-Wingnut Convergence that we used to joke about here is real.

Per the recent SPLC email, Stone is also campaigning to get a Trump pardon for the Bundy ranch clown(s) who are convicted.

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jaunte  Aug 6, 2017 • 2:16:00pm

re: #65 goddamnedfrank

Ook!

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Decatur Deb  Aug 6, 2017 • 2:16:55pm

re: #68 Decatur Deb

Link:
splcenter.org

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makeitstop  Aug 6, 2017 • 2:20:32pm
Click to Reveal

Back in January of ‘03, my wife and I attended a conference in DC to talk about establishing a liberal counterpart to RWNJ Hate Radio (which was the genesis of Air America). Held in a Senate office building on the day of Dubya’s ‘03 SOTU address, it was a day-long conference.

All of what were considered the ‘big names’ in liberal talk radio were there - Randi Rhodes, Mike Molloy, Thom Hartmann, Ed Schulz. The wife of the guy who eventually bankrolled Air America (Sheldon Drobny) was there. We were visited at dinner by Clinton, Stabenow, Conyers, and Teddy Kennedy and his dog. And a lot of B-listers with aspirations were there to see if they could wrangle their way in on this new network.

Of everyone who was there, both Schultz and Cenk came off as major-league assholes. Schultz acted like he was the biggest star in the room, and Cenk seemed like he’d shiv anyone who got between him and Anita Drobny. (Anita liked me because I let her bum Marlboros off of me, but that’s a story for another time).

I still have Cenk’s card from that day. At the time he billed himself as ‘The Young Turk.’ And my initial impression has proven out.

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dangerman  Aug 6, 2017 • 2:24:04pm

re: #55 wrenchwench

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2017 • 2:24:29pm

That Young Turks video is a prime example of why the calls to “put differences aside” are such a waste of time. Any Bros who were going to do so either did so in time to vote for Hillary or did so after Trump took office. Any left who are still imbibing are not going to work with us, they view us as their “enemy” because we refuse to agree with them that Bernie was “robbed” of the nomination and “woulda won.” They are actively working to undermine the opposition to Trump because they view him as their ticket to a Bernie “victory” in 2020 and a “revolution” soon after.

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jaunte  Aug 6, 2017 • 2:38:51pm
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I was thinking earlier that some idiot was probably going to make this argument, but I didn’t expect it from a celebrity idiot. Why on earth would a DC-based investigation empanel a grand jury in WV?

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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2017 • 2:40:07pm

re: #72 jaunte

[“the normalization of anti-Semitic tropes and rhetoric in the Republican party”]

With a cautionary last paragraph:

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If there’s any ground for optimism about the GOP, it’s the anti-Semitism is a growing problem on the left as well [emphasis added]—both in the United States and abroad. Perhaps attempts to use it as a wedge issue will encourage some Republicans to get their own house in order? Regardless, this is just one of many fronts that nominally responsible GOP officials and figures need to fight back on if they want to turn back the tide of Fascism LiteTM that’s swallowing their party.—and the country.

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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2017 • 2:56:59pm

re: #74 Targetpractice

That Young Turks video is a prime example of why the calls to “put differences aside” are such a waste of time. Any Bros who were going to do so either did so in time to vote for Hillary or did so after Trump took office. Any left who are still imbibing are not going to work with us, they view us as their “enemy” because we refuse to agree with them that Bernie was “robbed” of the nomination and “woulda won.” They are actively working to undermine the opposition to Trump because they view him as their ticket to a Bernie “victory” in 2020 and a “revolution” soon after.

Seems apropos

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austin_blue  Aug 6, 2017 • 3:00:30pm

re: #76 wrenchwench

With a cautionary last paragraph:

I don’t see an increase in anti-Semitism in the Left in the US. I *do* sense a significant increase in ant-Bibiism from the left, including me. I think the left understands the difference between Israel (and Israelites) and their current PM.

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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2017 • 3:06:34pm
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Someday, I hope to read Silberman’s 500 page book. The linked article provides incentive.

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Teukka  Aug 6, 2017 • 3:10:52pm

re: #79 wrenchwench

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Someday, I hope to read Silberman’s 500 page book. The linked article provides incentive.

No reason many people on the autism spectrum couldn’t function decently in society. Some social hacking and jury rigging required tho.

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2017 • 3:11:10pm

re: #77 BeachDem

Seems apropos

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The exact same sentiment among wingnuts that would see Reagan ran out of the party today would have doomed JFK among moonbats the moment he brought LBJ onto the ticket. Yet Johnson did more to advance civil rights by working the system than Bernie ever did making speeches at a college campus.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 6, 2017 • 3:11:27pm

re: #78 austin_blue

I don’t see an increase in anti-Semitism in the Left in the US. I *do* sense a significant increase in ant-Bibiism from the left, including me. I think the left understands the difference between Israel (and Israelites) and their current PM.

I definitely see it, from the bullshit at the Chicago Dyke March to the mission creep that saw the Movement for Black Lives make BDS an official platform plank.

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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2017 • 3:16:55pm

re: #81 Targetpractice

The exact same sentiment among wingnuts that would see Reagan ran out of the party today would have doomed JFK among moonbats the moment he brought LBJ onto the ticket. Yet Johnson did more to advance civil rights by working the system than Bernie ever did making speeches at a college campus.

But, but BERNIIE MARCHED WITH MLK AND HAS FOUGHT FOR CIVIL RIGHTS EVERY DAY OF HIS LIFE—or so the AfterBerners like to yell. (And a bird landed on his podium, so take that!)

Did anyone watch State of the Union today? (I didn’t.) Wonder what drivel was spouted by Nina Turner—who many Berners say would be a GREAT candidate in 2020 (along with Tulsi Gabbard—ugh and double ugh.)

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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2017 • 3:19:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2017 • 5:03:17pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

That’s exactly what it is - an insult.

I’m late to the conversation, but this is my all time favorite anecdote/tweet exchange on the topic:

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