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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2017 • 9:53:49pm
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freetoken  Aug 7, 2017 • 9:59:54pm

I see Robert Wright is continuing down the path of woo:

amazon.com

Can Buddhist Practices Help Us Overcome The Biological Pull Of Dissatisfaction?

[…]

But all is not lost. In his new book, Why Buddhism is True, Wright makes the case that some Buddhist practices can help humans overcome the biological pull towards dissatisfaction.

“I think of mindfulness meditation as almost a rebellion against natural selection,” he says. “Natural selection is the process that created us. It gave us our values. It sets our agenda, and Buddhism says, ‘We don’t have to play this game.’ “

[…]

Cognitive therapy is based on the idea that thinking differently can change a person’s emotions and patterns of behavior.

But Wright seems to be going a step farther and pushing into Buddhist dogma.

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freetoken  Aug 7, 2017 • 10:02:37pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

when Earth’s shadow falls on the moon

FALSE! THE EARTH IS FLAT!!!

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2017 • 10:02:58pm

Only 42 more hours until I can tweet again!

Giphy

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2017 • 10:05:28pm

re: #4 teleskiguy

Lizard tweeters, spare yourself the trouble and block this account, @kikobrown

That’s the wench that reported me and put me in Twitter jail for a week, all because I called her some nasty names and told her she was late for a cross burning.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2017 • 10:10:41pm
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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2017 • 10:12:53pm

re: #5 teleskiguy

You still think calling her a c*** was cool?

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2017 • 10:18:28pm

re: #7 JordanRules

Never said it was cool. She deserved it nonetheless because she really is a ****.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2017 • 10:23:36pm

re: #8 teleskiguy

Okaaaay. Carry on.

It was fun when you mentioned how Charles banned that word and the N word.

I’ve got a shit ton of savage nomenclature in my aresenal that doesn’t illicit side-eyes in allies.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2017 • 10:26:32pm

re: #9 JordanRules

I would like to think I’ve got a good vocabulary. And sometimes I like simple direct language. So sue me.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 7, 2017 • 10:37:25pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

I would like to think I’ve got a good vocabulary. And sometimes I like simple direct language. So sue me.

Your simple, direct language is what got you suspended. If you’re okay with that, carry on.

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freetoken  Aug 7, 2017 • 10:37:26pm

A favorite side-eye:

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2017 • 10:38:24pm

re: #11 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Your simple, direct language is what got you suspended. If you’re okay with that, carry on.

I accept the consequences, and have learned my lesson. That lesson being never interact with outright RWNJs on Twitter, just block and move on.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2017 • 10:39:30pm

re: #8 teleskiguy

Pro tip: If you want to call another dude that word fine but saying it to a woman is never a good look. Neither is defending its use to another woman.

Also, if you really want to pull it off it helps to be British.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2017 • 10:44:55pm

I am an asshole, have been for a little stretch. Dog days of summer getting to me. I miss skiing. I am an asshole.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2017 • 10:55:00pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

Ha! I considered that British part the other night too. I really did.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2017 • 10:55:04pm
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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2017 • 10:59:11pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2017 • 11:09:26pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 7, 2017 • 11:25:59pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

What depresses me is how that piece demonstrates the gaping holes in how people think in general, but in specific how dudes are taught that their internal lives are “factual” not subjective and emotional. Furthermore, it’s a perpetuation of the mythos in which “smart” is some kind of omnicompetence…leading to the software guy making a hash of biology, psychology, sociology, business management, and political science, with zero pause to consider his qualifications relative to his audience.

There’s a “logic” but little to no testing of base assumptions. The author’s “feelings” about being excluded are treated as True, and the validity of his thoughts is taken for granted, and thus that is the only idea exchange that matters.

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Anymouse the Hypocrite 🌹  Aug 7, 2017 • 11:27:11pm

My Internet service was out (again).

On the end of the last thread I suggested that in regards to sending the NYT and Wash. Post to our town, it might be better for me to simply look into print subscription prices and for me to subscribe to one print edition each, for the public library.

Someone mentioned net nanny software. Our state requires that in public libraries. The librarian can override it if someone (adult) wishes unfettered access to the Internet.

An interesting thing happened at our board meeting tonight.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2017 • 11:34:08pm

True story.

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freetoken  Aug 7, 2017 • 11:42:07pm
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FormerDirtDart  Aug 7, 2017 • 11:54:14pm
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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2017 • 11:58:45pm

re: #21 Anymouse 🌹

What change in access to media do you think would help? You’ve been very clear that this is a problem.

I’m cool with any answer. I just want to see if there is something we can do and if it’s worth pursuing.

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Anymouse the Hypocrite 🌹  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:05:32am

re: #25 JordanRules

What change in access to media do you think would help? You’ve been very clear that this is a problem.

I’m cool with any answer. I just want to see if there is something we can do and if it’s worth pursuing.

I’m not sure.

A new radio station opened up in the county seat, run by the Seventh Day Adventist Church.

The overwhelming majority of radio here is either RWNJ or Christian hate radio. There are a couple music stations but they don’t do news. The only NPR station in this area is out of range for us (I can only get it in my car).

The regional newspaper leans conservative. (Hence little reporting on the raging Dumpster fire in the White House - mostly fluff pieces)

Television is controlled by Sinclair (regardless of network).

There is no cable service. In theory someone could get satellite service but it is very expensive; ditto with Internet service.

The area is pretty much a captive audience for RW propaganda; we were written off long ago as no longer important by the left or the media.

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Anymouse the Hypocrite 🌹  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:11:08am

From the last thread:

re: #144 sagehen

Can I just point out… significant portions of the Netherlands are below sea level. If you care enough to build proper sea walls, this is doable.

I would note that The Netherlands has been building dikes and sea walls since 1000 CE. The area of SE Louisiana that would need to be protected is considerably larger.

en.wikipedia.org

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sagehen  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:16:38am

re: #24 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

For the purposes of an American network posting to an American audience, “U.S. casino mogul Sheldon Adelson” may be a reasonable identifier.

But for the purposes of the Israeli court that issued this order, the more relevant point is that Sheldon Adelson owns (and exercises strict editorial control on) the largest-circulation newspaper in the entire country. And he gives it away for free.

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Anymouse the Hypocrite 🌹  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:20:16am

theguardian.com

Stephen Marche attends the Ohio Preppers and Survivalist Summit and discovers the contradictions in American life are the very conditions that are slowly crumbling it from within

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sagehen  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:36:53am

The new season of American Horror Story (starting Sept 5) is called “Cult”. It’s set in Michigan, starts on election night 2016.

American Horror Story: Cult | Season 7: Afraid Preview | FX

Ryan Murphy, in interviews, says the political commentary is intended as subtext… but I’m beginning to think it’s possibly not very subtle.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:42:04am

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹

- reach out to NPR and see what the landscape looks like for a wider signal

- research regional papers for alternatives and how we can distribute those if there are any worth it

- research any grants that push internet access to rural areas and consider some targeted subscriptions (library, a few houses etc)

- remind AM that nobody comes to the South Side of Phoenix to interview us about this Admin, but I’ve seen tons of pieces about the ONLY working class, aka Drumpf supporters

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freetoken  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:43:36am

re: #30 sagehen

Ryan Murphy, in interviews, says the political commentary is intended as subtext… but I’m beginning to think it’s possibly not very subtle.

Not much “sub” in the text, eh?

Never watched the show… but I might be drawn to check out the first episode of this season, given what you’ve shared.

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freetoken  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:47:15am

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹

The overwhelming majority of radio here is either RWNJ or Christian hate radio. There are a couple music stations but they don’t do news. The only NPR station in this area is out of range for us (I can only get it in my car)..

Maybe someone could raise money for a repeater for one of the Nebraska Radio stations?

I see on the map that there already are three small stations in their network.
netnebraska.org

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freetoken  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:47:44am

Oops, make that 5 small stations.

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Anymouse the Hypocrite 🌹  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:54:13am

re: #31 JordanRules

- reach out to NPR and see what the landscape looks like for a wider signal

I’m not sure what the station could do. It’s in Chadron, ninety miles away.

- research regional papers for alternatives and how we can distribute those if there are any worth it

The next nearest papers would be the Cheyenne Tribune-Eagle or the Denver Post, neither of which covers issues here. The county paper here only covers county issues.

- research any grants that push internet access to rural areas and consider some targeted subscriptions (library, a few houses etc)

My wife did that for two years, including using the fund set up for the FCC to distribute funding to rural areas. We have access, it just costs too much (much like the GOP “healthcare” plan). The FCC plan is such a cluster that she gave up after two years trying to get funding, and the library already has Internet service. (The fund doesn’t pay for service, it pays only part of it. The GOP is targeting it for elimination anyway. There are consultants that will help you navigate the FCCs requirements but it turns out they cost more than what you get from the FCC. She wrote the Gates Foundation about getting one new computer - they originally supplied the village library two on a grant back in Windows 95 days, but they turned down her grant request.)

- remind AM that nobody comes to the South Side of Phoenix to interview us about this Admin, but I’ve seen tons of pieces about the ONLY working class, aka Drumpf supporters

I’m still waiting for someone, anyone, anywhere, to interview a Hillary Clinton supporter living in a Trump territory. The media in its desperation to normalise the Orange Terror have not yet interviewed all the Trump supporters who cast ballots from overseas or outer space yet.

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Anymouse the Hypocrite 🌹  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:55:45am

re: #33 freetoken

Maybe someone could raise money for a repeater for one of the Nebraska Radio stations?

I see on the map that there already are three small stations in their network.
netnebraska.org

That chart showing the coverage area of KTNE Alliance is -ah- quite optimistic.

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harlequinade  Aug 8, 2017 • 1:32:37am

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

:D Ish…I mean, that word is used as a comma, but it’s still “The Killing Word.” I still have trouble saying it.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 8, 2017 • 2:45:34am

re: #29 Anymouse 🌹

theguardian.com

Stephen Marche attends the Ohio Preppers and Survivalist Summit and discovers the contradictions in American life are the very conditions that are slowly crumbling it from within

Good article. At this point, I should say that not all preppers are crazy but the crazy majority are where the money is. I am especially puzzled by the fad for “bugging out.” As the article intimates, albeit gently, much of this is based on anti-government cultism and plain racism. “The government can take your stuff and give it to the ‘others’.” More directly, they fear that numberless hordes of others will swarm out of the inner cities to pillage their way through suburbia “as soon as the welfare checks stop.”
I swear, some of the doofi in this area seem to think there are 50 million black people in Dallas alone, they are all on welfare, and they have a zombie-like resistance to gunfire, let alone reason and decency, when there is loot to be had. In any case, running down the road to a “retreat” 200 miles away might be the very worst place you could be in a real collapse, the end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it (TEOTWAWKI) situation. In a nuclear fallout situation, it would kill you stone dead with no doubt at all. Indeed, I have considered that one good post-fallout strategy in a true TEOTWAWKI situation might be to cautiously prowl the nearby interstate for wrecked SUVs loaded with bug out supplies.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2017 • 3:26:41am

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

That was a very good article.

Lots of apocalypticism in the US - I remember it when I lived there. It’s a constant thread running through American culture. “The end is nigh!” and all that jazz.

And you know what? All the prepping in the world ain’t gonna mean shit if something like this happens one fine day:

Discovery Channel - Large Asteroid Impact Simulation

That’s an extinction level event right there. And all the AR-15’s, all the dehydrated foodstuffs, all the stores of water won’t mean anything if our planet becomes a dead rock floating in the vastness of space.

As the article said, they’re prepping for the catastrophe they want - not the catastrophe they’re going to get. What they’re looking forward to is a variant of the cozy catastrophe. en.wikipedia.org

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Teukka  Aug 8, 2017 • 3:34:04am

re: #39 Dr Lizardo

That was a very good article.

Lots of apocalypticism in the US - I remember it when I lived there. It’s a constant thread running through American culture. “The end is nigh!” and all that jazz.

And you know what? All the prepping in the world ain’t gonna mean shit if something like this happens one fine day:

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That’s an extinction level event right there. And all the AR-15’s, all the dehydrated foodstuffs, all the stores of water won’t mean anything if our planet becomes a dead rock floating in the vastness of space.

As the article said, they’re prepping for the catastrophe they want - not the catastrophe they’re going to get. What they’re looking forward to is a variant of the cozy catastrophe.

Yeah. A KT Killer sized impactor will mean what it did the last time, that a very likely outcome is that nothing with a body mass of 60 lbs or more will hack it. And very much so if humanity is spread out in small pockets warring amongst themselves.

Even a smallish impactor like “Chelyabinsk Surprise” can have devastating consequences. And I’m not just talking about such a impactor doing a ground burst, but the possibility that it gets mistaken for a nuclear strike due to the similar yields. The Chelyabinsk surprise was about 500 kT yield equivalent. That it didn’t do more damage was because it was a high-altitude burst at 29,000 m. Had it made it down to earth in a populated zone, the body count would have been at least 5 digits.

And twice that and above, and you are in a scale of disaster which will require international assistance and co-operation to deal with the fallout. No time to be hiding in your bunker with your immediate family and your AR15 and food rations, but time to get out and get your hands dirty with your fellow humans.

*shakes head*

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2017 • 3:39:13am

re: #40 Teukka

The Chelyabinsk surprise was about 500 kT yield equivalent. That it didn’t do more damage was because it was a high-altitude burst at 29,000 m. Had it made it down to earth in a populated zone, the body count would have been at least 5 digits.

Russia dodged a bullet with that. I’ve often thought “What if that bolide had airburst at about 200 meters over Chelyabinsk instead of 29,000 meters?” The consequences could’ve been catastrophic, and not just for Russia. The initial moments after something like that would be filled with uncertainty, to say the least; it would take a few minutes to figure out if it was simply a natural disaster or a nuclear strike.

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Pineapple Pizzagate  Aug 8, 2017 • 3:43:38am

re: #39 Dr Lizardo

The world has been imminently coming to an end since before i was born.

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Teukka  Aug 8, 2017 • 3:44:55am

re: #41 Dr Lizardo

Russia dodged a bullet with that. I’ve often thought “What if that bolide had airburst at about 200 meters over Chelyabinsk instead of 29,000 meters?” The consequences could’ve been catastrophic, and not just for Russia. The initial moments after something like that would be filled with uncertainty, to say the least; it would take a few minutes to figure out if it was simply a natural disaster or a nuclear strike.

Let me rub my two grey cells together… Given the angle of the impactor, the impact zone would have been elliptic in shape, and depending on composition, it might have had parts of it bounce further down trajectory. There’s an example of this type of impactor in S America.

And that’s just the initial consequences, the secondary ones would be any nuclear facility in the zone, the smoke generated by many uncontained fires, both wildfires and structural fires. It could be enough to cause at least localized climate impact. Then we would have the displacement of the population that survived in the impact zone. And I could go on with the tertiary consequences, but you get my drift…

I would say it would be borderline what the Russian Federation could hack on its own.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2017 • 3:48:30am

re: #43 Teukka

There’s an example of this type of impactor in S America.

The Chicxulub Impact Event? Or another event?

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Teukka  Aug 8, 2017 • 3:50:48am

re: #44 Dr Lizardo

There’s an example of this type of impactor in S America.

The Chicxulub Impact Event? Or another event?

Rio Cuarto.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2017 • 3:51:37am

re: #42 Pineapple Pizzagate

The world has been imminently coming to an end since before i was born.

For about the last 2,000 years, or at least that’s what a particular apocalyptic preacher was telling his entourage, and who - with all due respect - seems to have been a bit off on his timing.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 8, 2017 • 4:02:03am

re: #42 Pineapple Pizzagate

The world has been imminently coming to an end since before i was born.

When Iran gets their nuke, that’s it, that’s when it will finally end.
/

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 8, 2017 • 4:13:22am

Every serious study of post-catastrophe survival has found that cooperation with others, rather than individual isolation, is the optimum strategy. The prepper culture, though, is fanatically individualistic. If the government did offer a comprehensive civil defense program; with stocked, assigned shelter space (as in Switzerland); the RWNJ preppers would reject it as some kind of collectivist conspiracy.
Each doofus thinks he and his family unit can survive indefinitely on their own. This would be viable if they were alone in the world, like Swiss Family Robinson, but that is not the case here. No group of 4 or 5 people is going to have the necessary cross section of skills.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2017 • 4:22:55am

re: #48 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Every serious study of post-catastrophe survival has found that cooperation with others, rather than individual isolation, is the optimum strategy. The prepper culture, though, is fanatically individualistic. If the government did offer a comprehensive civil defense program; with stocked, assigned shelter space (as in Switzerland); the RWNJ preppers would reject it as some kind of collectivist conspiracy.
Each doofus thinks he and his family unit can survive indefinitely on their own. This would be viable if they were alone in the world, like Swiss Family Robinson, but that is not the case here. No group of 4 or 5 people is going to have the necessary cross section of skills.

If indeed the Toba genetic bottleneck hypothesis is in fact true, I’m pretty sure us Homo sapiens sapiens didn’t make it back from the brink by being “rugged individualists”.

Hell……..most likely, none of us would be here; we would’ve gone extinct millennia ago.

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Shropshire Slasher  Aug 8, 2017 • 4:24:42am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2017 • 4:28:13am

All righty then….back later.

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Teukka  Aug 8, 2017 • 4:30:25am
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Teukka  Aug 8, 2017 • 4:39:19am

re: #52 Teukka

Developing Story - 3 injured as car drives into people in the Stockholm Suburb of Högdalen.

UPDATE: Elderly Lady of age 80-ish mistook pedals according to Tomas Ibstedt, officer in charge at Stockholm County police.

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Weaselone  Aug 8, 2017 • 4:42:26am

re: #39 Dr Lizardo

That asteroid looks to be about 400 miles in diameter given the relative sizes of Korea and Japan. We probably haven’t seen an impact like that since the moon was formed. It’s also larger than all but 4 of the asteroids in the entire asteroid belt. Even the largest near earth asteroids are significantly smaller (only a handful exceed 10 miles in diameter). For comparison, the extinction level event that took out all the non bird dinosaurs was caused by an object in the 3-10 mile diameter range.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2017 • 4:43:31am

re: #53 Teukka

UPDATE: Elderly Lady of age 80-ish mistook pedals according to Tomas Ibstedt, officer in charge at Stockholm County police.

Geriatric Terror Cell !!!

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2017 • 4:47:07am

Off to second day of jury duty, in the court with definably the highest death penalty production in the country. (We are assured there are no capital cases this week.)

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Teukka  Aug 8, 2017 • 4:57:33am

re: #55 Decatur Deb

Geriatric Terror Cell !!!

Geriatric Liberation Front?

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Myron Falwell  Aug 8, 2017 • 5:20:47am

re: #39 Dr Lizardo

Apocalypticism has been an inherent trait among the Dominionists at least since the first Great Awakenings.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2017 • 5:36:15am

Just back from walking the dogs and my hands are sticky with blood.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 8, 2017 • 5:39:44am

re: #4 teleskiguy

Only 42 more hours until I can tweet again!

[Embedded content]

You are hilarious!!! Twitter really needs to fix its system if good folks like you are being kicked off while open White Supremacists are given carte blanche.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 8, 2017 • 5:42:25am

re: #60 Patricia Kayden

You are hilarious!!! Twitter really needs to fix its system if good folks like you are being kicked off while open White Supremacists are given carte blanche.

Twitter’s front office has been scientifically proven to be composed of nothing but ostriches.

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2017 • 5:42:37am

No rage tweets this morning? Hm.

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2017 • 5:44:41am

…the hell?

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b.d. (bill d.)  Aug 8, 2017 • 5:47:06am

re: #62 makeitstop

No rage tweets this morning? Hm.

It must not be raining and he can tee off.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Aug 8, 2017 • 5:47:49am

re: #63 makeitstop

…the hell?

[Embedded content]

Does that sign read:

“Laundering services available”?

lol

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2017 • 5:48:46am
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sagehen  Aug 8, 2017 • 5:54:07am

re: #48 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Every serious study of post-catastrophe survival has found that cooperation with others, rather than individual isolation, is the optimum strategy. The prepper culture, though, is fanatically individualistic. If the government did offer a comprehensive civil defense program; with stocked, assigned shelter space (as in Switzerland); the RWNJ preppers would reject it as some kind of collectivist conspiracy.
Each doofus thinks he and his family unit can survive indefinitely on their own. This would be viable if they were alone in the world, like Swiss Family Robinson, but that is not the case here. No group of 4 or 5 people is going to have the necessary cross section of skills.

You’d think “The Walking Dead” would have driven home this point…

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2017 • 5:58:30am

Thread.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2017 • 6:05:44am

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹

Hm. It seems I’m oddly fighting an uphill battle here.

Welp I think I stumbled on one area that seems very doable - new computers for the library! Coupled with some additional subscriptions/copies of newspapers it could be a decent start.

I’ve worked on 2 programs that supplied computers to underserved communities.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 8, 2017 • 6:06:26am

re: #20 The Ghost of a Flea

What depresses me is how that piece demonstrates the gaping holes in how people think in general, but in specific how dudes are taught that their internal lives are “factual” not subjective and emotional. Furthermore, it’s a perpetuation of the mythos in which “smart” is some kind of omnicompetence…leading to the software guy making a hash of biology, psychology, sociology, business management, and political science, with zero pause to consider his qualifications relative to his audience.

There’s a “logic” but little to no testing of base assumptions. The author’s “feelings” about being excluded are treated as True, and the validity of his thoughts is taken for granted, and thus that is the only idea exchange that matters.

I would be willing to bet that the author is a strong proponent of The Bell Curve, too. I only skimmed the diatribe, but the attempt to use science to explain his obvious biases is exactly the same style of discussion that is used by racists who attempt to explain why the white man (including Asians) are superior to POC. It is, as you note, a giant mash-up of different areas of science, but with no acknowledgement there of, nor any attempt to remove his own inherent fee-fees of not being worshiped as a white male.

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CleverToad  Aug 8, 2017 • 6:10:09am

re: #21 Anymouse 🌹

My Internet service was out (again).

On the end of the last thread I suggested that in regards to sending the NYT and Wash. Post to our town, it might be better for me to simply look into print subscription prices and for me to subscribe to one print edition each, for the public library.

Someone mentioned net nanny software. Our state requires that in public libraries. The librarian can override it if someone (adult) wishes unfettered access to the Internet.

Yeah, most libraries have some sort of filter. What I wasn’t sure of is whether it’s set to filter hate sites as well as the standard oh-no-it’s-sex. Does the local librarian have discretion/ability to set the filters themselves, in addition to what the law specifies? More to the point, how much usage do the current computers get, and would more computers — or longer library hours, perhaps — expand the number of people using them?

Where do folks hang out to talk, and are they susceptible to the lure of free reading material? USA Today? Time or Newsweek? Discovery?

EDIT: screwed up the quote indents. aargh.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 8, 2017 • 6:11:46am

re: #68 makeitstop

I’d be absolutely shocked if Nunes wasn’t already being heavily investigated as part of this probe.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2017 • 6:21:55am
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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2017 • 6:23:34am
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jeffreyw  Aug 8, 2017 • 6:28:07am

Imgur


Giardiniera morning!

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 8, 2017 • 6:28:23am

re: #73 FormerDirtDart

Hence the popularity of vapes. Fancy looking and who knows what is in the liquid? Flavors and tomato derived nicotine? Or cannabis? Joints are obnoxious like cigars for any non smoker. But vapes are almost odorless outside a couple feet away.
Imho
Smoking of tobacco or cannabis bud should be done in areas unlikely to be bothersome. Vapes should get more latitude but still not public indoor space.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2017 • 6:31:24am

re: #62 makeitstop

No rage tweets this morning? Hm.

He’s retweeted Fox and Friends three times already.

But he’s too busy to watch TV and all. /

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Myron Falwell  Aug 8, 2017 • 6:41:23am

re: #74 FormerDirtDart

Ah, the internecine war between the Bannon faction and the Kelly faction is starting to heat up again.

And when HASN’T Mike-Mike retweeted the fringe right Nutzis like Paulie Watson and Cernovich?

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 8, 2017 • 6:46:22am

re: #73 FormerDirtDart

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Do like I did when I was there, go out onto the hotel room balcony :-)

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2017 • 6:49:07am

Greets and saluts from the resistance in the NYC metro area. Trump’s busy getting his golf game on at Trump Bedminster, and he’s threatening to come to NYC for some reason next week. Guess he’s decided that he would like to screw up NYC transit some more by dropping in and causing gridlock.

It’s not like he’s going to do anything to help improve infrastructure here or anywhere else in the US. All his talk about infrastructure has been just that - talk. There’s no substantive policies here, and the infrastructure we do have continues to fail.

Meanwhile, an effort to get truckers and train engineers tested for sleep apnea has been scrapped by the relevant federal agencies despite a clear link between the condition and deadly accidents.

There’s more of that freedom we’ve come to expect from Trump and the GOP. They’re going to scrap a rule that would save lives. Metro North, which had one of these kinds of deadly crashes now tests all its engineers and found that 11.6% of the engineers suffered from sleep apnea.

Guess we’ve got the freedom to have a 10% chance a rail/subway/tractor trailer driver is going to fall asleep behind the wheel and cause loss of life.

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2017 • 6:53:27am

Shorter NY Mag: Glenn Greenwald is a disingenuous pile of crap.

From the outset, he has reflexively discounted evidence of Russian intervention in the election. “Democrats completely resurrect that Cold War McCarthyite kind of rhetoric not only to accuse Paul Manafort, who does have direct financial ties to certainly the pro — the former pro-Russian leader of the Ukraine,” he asserted last year. (Manafort did have financial ties to that leader, a fact that was obvious at the time and which Manafort no longer denies.) Democratic accusations that Trump had hidden ties with Russia were a “smear tactic,” “unhinged,” “wild, elaborate conspiracy theories,” a “desperate” excuse for their election defeat, and so on.

As evidence of Russian intervention piled up, Greenwald’s line of defense has continued to retreat. When emails revealed a campaign meeting by Russians on the explicit promise of helping Trump’s campaign, Greenwald brushed it off as politics as usual: “I, personally, although it’s dirty, think all of these events are sort of the way politics works. Of course if you’re in an important campaign and someone offers you incriminating information about your opponent, you’re going to want it no matter where it comes from.”

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2017 • 6:55:00am

re: #81 makeitstop

Shorter NY Mag: Glenn Greenwald is a disingenuous pile of crap.

If Pepsi can turn in a guy for giving them the Coke formula, Republicans can put country over party, Glen.

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Teukka  Aug 8, 2017 • 6:55:14am

re: #80 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the resistance in the NYC metro area. Trump’s busy getting his golf game on at Trump Bedminster, and he’s threatening to come to NYC for some reason next week. Guess he’s decided that he would like to screw up NYC transit some more by dropping in and causing gridlock.

It’s not like he’s going to do anything to help improve infrastructure here or anywhere else in the US. All his talk about infrastructure has been just that - talk. There’s no substantive policies here, and the infrastructure we do have continues to fail.

Meanwhile, an effort to get truckers and train engineers tested for sleep apnea has been scrapped by the relevant federal agencies despite a clear link between the condition and deadly accidents.

[Embedded content]

There’s more of that freedom we’ve come to expect from Trump and the GOP. They’re going to scrap a rule that would save lives. Metro North, which had one of these kinds of deadly crashes now tests all its engineers and found that 11.6% of the engineers suffered from sleep apnea.

Guess we’ve got the freedom to have a 10% chance a rail/subway/tractor trailer driver is going to fall asleep behind the wheel and cause loss of life.

Let me guess, this is under the aegis of preventing unnecessary overregulation stifling independent entrepeneurship?

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2017 • 6:56:56am

re: #81 makeitstop

TL;DR: Greenwald is a liar/smear merchant.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:04:16am

*snort laugh followed by a sigh*

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:04:50am

re: #83 Teukka

Let me guess, this is under the aegis of preventing unnecessary overregulation stifling independent entrepeneurship?

Yep, and if your child dies because of a situation like this, they are pushing for tort and liability “reform” so you can’t do a fucking thing about it court wise. Win-win for business, as for the public, eat shit.

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danarchy  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:06:23am

re: #59 FormerDirtDart

Just back from walking the dogs and my hands are sticky with blood.

I think you may be doing it wrong…

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:09:50am

re: #87 danarchy

I think you may be doing it wrong…

Mosquitoes

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:12:14am
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dangerman  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:12:20am

re: #80 lawhawk

Free markets!

Your estate can always sue

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:12:50am

This Edroso column wins on its title alone: Coup Clucks Clan: Rightbloggers Blame ‘Deep State’ for Trump’s Woes

As former FBI head Robert Mueller’s investigation of Russian shenanigans in the 2016 U.S. election heads for a grand jury, Donald Trump’s many weird self-incriminating behaviors are beginning to look like the “tells” of a guilty man. And his absent maladministration of the executive branch looks less like a dull political headache we’re all going to have to endure till at least 2020 than like signs of imminent collapse.

Conservatives who’ve bet heavy on Trump, however, don’t see it that way. To them, Trump’s problems are not his fault at all, but the result of a “coup” plotted against The Leader by liberals, ungrateful Republicans, and the “Deep State” — that is, U.S. law enforcement and other arms of the government tasked with oversight of the executive. And some of them are calling to beat back this alleged coup with violence.

The coup idea isn’t new. As far back as last summer, James Kirchick wrote at the Los Angeles Times that “if Trump wins, a coup isn’t impossible here in the U.S.” — though Kirchick’s fantasy involved the military brass refusing to obey some lunatic command by the “brazenly authoritarian” Trump.

After the election, however, conservatives were more likely to talk about the “coup” as led by traitors against Trump.

“The intention of the Obama/Clinton campaign is to explain the election loss in terms acceptable to the Democratic Party, to hamstring and delegitimize the new administration coming in, and to bring about the resignation or impeachment of Donald Trump,” wrote Philip Giraldi at the American Conservative in March. “It is in all intents and purposes a coup…” (Name checks: George Soros, John Podesta, “consigliere Valerie Jarrett.”)

“We Are Watching A Slow-Motion Coup D’etat,” cried James Downton at the Federalist in May. Downton charged “collusion between the various elements of the partisan Left, the media, and the administrative state.” Apparently the kingpin of these colluders, judging from the frequency with which Downton mentioned him in his column, is Eric Boehlert, a writer for Media Matters for America and, later, Shareblue. Congrats on the promotion, Eric!

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:14:54am

re: #85 JordanRules

*snort laugh followed by a sigh*

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It’s ok because he’s got a fire extinguisher and the right kind of shirt

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:14:56am

Retweets then tweets…

I guess Jared will be telling everyone how their going to solve this now…

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:17:15am

re: #93 FormerDirtDart

I will be holding a major briefing on the Opioid crisis, a major problem for our country, today at 3:00 P.M. in Bedminster, N.J.

Something something more prisons…mumble mumble ‘those’ neighborhoods…argle bargle greater law enforcement….MAGA!

Sorry, no questions, I gotta go tee off.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:17:22am

re: #73 FormerDirtDart

Pot BNB! (You’re welcome.)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:17:30am

re: #5 teleskiguy

Oh, I looked at what she posted. Typical Trumpette. And I blocked her….

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:18:52am
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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:20:00am

re: #82 Belafon

If Pepsi can turn in a guy for giving them the Coke formula, Republicans can put country over party, Glen.

Why, that would take respect for your competition.

Currently, I don’t think Republicans respect anyone, not even themselves.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:21:14am

re: #53 Teukka

UPDATE: Elderly Lady of age 80-ish mistook pedals according to Tomas Ibstedt, officer in charge at Stockholm County police.

ISIS sleeper agent!!!! Arglebargle!?&@$#%!@”$!

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Teukka  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:22:22am

re: #99 GlutenFreeJesus

ISIS sleeper agent!!!! Arglebargle!?&@$#%!@”$!

ISIS Geriatric Division!!!!!!! 111ty!!!111?
*shakes head*

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Weaselone  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:22:43am

re: #91 makeitstop

One of the most frustrating things about this and something which is also noted in the prepper article above is that people in law enforcement and/or otherwise dependent on the government are some of key drivers of the anti-government movement. Something like 75+% of the US budget is spend on the security state, the care and feeding of the old and infirm, or making the payments on debt used to provide for the same, yet it’s people collecting SS, grazing at below market rates on public land and working for the government/collecting government pensions that seem be involved in the movement.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:23:22am

He makes another mistake…

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:23:47am

re: #99 GlutenFreeJesus

ISIS sleeper agent!!!! Arglebargle!?&@$#%!@”$!

She was just a heavy sleeper, like Rip Van Winkle heavy sleeper.

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Lupin  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:25:26am

re: #81 makeitstop

Shorter NY Mag: Glenn Greenwald is a disingenuous pile of crap.

Color me unsurprised. Even when Greenwald was fighting the “good fight” against Bush, he was viscerally unable to alter his mind when confronted with facts that proved him wrong. I had a long email argument with him regarding some of the legalities of a famous criminal case I won’t mention here, about which he’d made some rash and totally untrue statements on his blog. He never conceded an inch about being wrong even when I confronted him with factual evidence to the contrary, chapter and verse, and quickly resorted to ad hominem insults. He is incapable of arguing with an open mind.

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:26:29am

re: #89 FormerDirtDart

the president tweeting something that his UN Ambassador says she cannot publicly discuss because it’s classified for national security

Well…she is only the UN Ambassador. She is not the President.

The President can do anything, Just ask Trump. He seems to be able to do anything he wants.

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:28:05am

Gun deaths over the last 15 years is roughly 500,000
Opioid overdoses over the same period: roughly 550,000.

(Source - chart here)

One gets treated as a national emergency. The other is watering the tree of liberty and freedom.

Trump has repeatedly claimed the drug epidemic is the result of our immigration and border policy, and yet most get hooked on drugs as a result of a lawful prescription to deal with pain and other issues.

Also curiously, the majority (overall and by percentage), of those overdosing on opioids are white.

heroin and opioid painkillers today are used at similar rates in rural and urban areas. Johnson, the SAMHSA Center for Substance Abuse Treatment director, attributes this partly to access: Like alcohol, you don’t need to get to a city to have plentiful access to prescription drugs. As the map below shows, many of the states hit hardest by the epidemic—like West Virginia, New Hampshire, New Mexico, and Ohio—are overwhelmingly rural and white.

That doesn’t totally get into why those states in particular are being hard hit - and only NM is on the border with Mexico.

But rather than address drug abuse, this admin has been behind efforts to gut drug treatment (that’s part of the Trumpcare nightmare that is still lurking in the shadows), and increasing criminal penalties against drug use - along with recriminalizing pot consumption.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:31:11am

re: #93 FormerDirtDart

I will be holding a major briefing on the Opioid crisis, a major problem for our country, today at 3:00 P.M. in Bedminster, N.J.

— Donald J. Trump

Translation: My HHS Sec is going to come over and tell me about this issue and I’ll pay attention for about a minute before talking about what yuuuge crowds I’ve had lately.

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Weaselone  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:31:59am

re: #105 ObserverArt

Well…she is only the UN Ambassador. She is not the President.

The President can do anything, Just ask Trump. He seems to be able to do anything he wants.

Indications are that North Korea is going to have a seriously shitty harvest. I wonder how much of this activity is related to that? This seems to fit with previous behavior where they ratcheted these activities up to get a deal in exchange for food and fuel. Alternately, maybe they’re actually angling for war this time figuring they have nothing to lose.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:32:31am

re: #93 FormerDirtDart

Retweets then tweets…

I guess Jared will be telling everyone how their going to solve this now…

If we execute all of the drug addicts, then they don’t end up in the “died from overdose” column.

//

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nines09  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:32:56am

Just found something I never knew about. Knew a bit about the Great Lakes, but this is new. To me anyway. Good day all.
Nice story here;

So what do they look like? Petosky Stone

A State Park named after Them?

I learned something. And some advice. As he says, hope this does some form of good.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:35:53am

re: #105 ObserverArt

Well…she is only the UN Ambassador. She is not the President.

The President can do anything, Just ask Trump. He seems to be able to do anything he wants.

Are we going to go after the leaker who spilled the NK spy satellite info to Fox & Friends?

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Stanley Sea  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:36:20am

re: #107 Sir John Barron

Translation: My HHS Sec is going to come over and tell me about this issue and I’ll pay attention for about a minute before talking about what yuuuge crowds I’ve had lately.

Yup, over hamburgers.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:36:53am

re: #105 ObserverArt

Well…she is only the UN Ambassador. She is not the President.

The President can do anything, Just ask Trump. He seems to be able to do anything he wants.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:38:50am

re: #112 Stanley Sea

Yup, over hamburgers.

Yeah “I’ll be holding a major briefing…”

Who talks like this?

Oh, sorry, our so-called president.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:42:12am

re: #113 FormerDirtDart

A good reminder would also be that Secretaries of State have that authority as well for information coming from their department.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:45:22am

re: #80 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the resistance in the NYC metro area. Trump’s busy getting his golf game on at Trump Bedminster, and he’s threatening to come to NYC for some reason next week. Guess he’s decided that he would like to screw up NYC transit some more by dropping in and causing gridlock.

It’s not like he’s going to do anything to help improve infrastructure here or anywhere else in the US. All his talk about infrastructure has been just that - talk. There’s no substantive policies here, and the infrastructure we do have continues to fail.

Meanwhile, an effort to get truckers and train engineers tested for sleep apnea has been scrapped by the relevant federal agencies despite a clear link between the condition and deadly accidents.

[Embedded content]

There’s more of that freedom we’ve come to expect from Trump and the GOP. They’re going to scrap a rule that would save lives. Metro North, which had one of these kinds of deadly crashes now tests all its engineers and found that 11.6% of the engineers suffered from sleep apnea.

Guess we’ve got the freedom to have a 10% chance a rail/subway/tractor trailer driver is going to fall asleep behind the wheel and cause loss of life.

And now we have a SCOTUS justice who believes that drivers have an OBLIGATION to die behind the wheel if corporate refuses to give them sufficient rest periods.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:45:41am

OK, nothing like running out of coffee to get me off my lazy rear and onto the bike for a trip to the store.
Well, that and the fact that I’m pretty much out of food. And, I need to pick up this weeks lottery tickets too.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:50:36am

Before I leave, this is a very entertaining thread

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Birth Control Works  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:56:44am

re: #42 Pineapple Pizzagate

The world has been imminently coming to an end since before i was born.

I may have to steal this.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:56:58am

re: #114 Sir John Barron

Yeah “I’ll be holding a major briefing…”

Who talks like this?

Oh, sorry, our so-called president.

A Czech view; I was talking to a student today and the subject of Trump came up and she said, “My God, what a dangerous fool he is! But the Czech media really doesn’t give it the attention it deserves, so I have to go to US media sources to find out.”

In some fairness, the Czech Republic is now in full-on silly season…….an election is coming up in October, and of course, that dominates public discourse. But she’s right - Czech media, with very few notable exceptions, is largely quiet on Trump’s tomfoolery. The alternative media is slowly but surely being taken over by Russia’s useful idiots, unfortunately.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2017 • 7:59:51am

re: #118 FormerDirtDart

Before I leave, this is a very entertaining thread

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That’s worthy of a Seinfeld episode.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 8, 2017 • 8:03:03am

re: #93 FormerDirtDart

Retweets then tweets…

[Embedded content]

I guess Jared will be telling everyone how their going to solve this now…

“You can’t have a lasting civilization without plenty of pleasant vices.”

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Jebediah, RBG  Aug 8, 2017 • 8:04:15am

re: #59 FormerDirtDart

Just back from walking the dogs and my hands are sticky with blood.

??
Did some really bad thing happen? I hope not!

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2017 • 8:08:53am

re: #118 FormerDirtDart

Oh wow!!! Hilarious.
I’d watch the movie.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 8, 2017 • 8:14:32am

VOCABULARY WORD OF THE DAY:

ophidian (adj.) Look up ophidian at dictionary.com
“pertaining to snakes,” 1883, from Greek ophidion, diminutive of ophis “serpent” (see ophio-). Hence, ophiolatry “serpent-worship” (1862), and the 2c. sect of the Ophitæ, who revered the serpent as the symbol of divine wisdom.

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2017 • 8:23:00am

Pretty quiet out there today…almost too quiet….

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Stanley Sea  Aug 8, 2017 • 8:26:19am

re: #126 makeitstop

Pretty quiet out there today…almost too quiet….

MAJOR briefing coming up.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2017 • 8:27:28am

re: #127 Stanley Sea

MAJOR briefing coming up.

“Today’s briefing is KFC or Burger King.”

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Birth Control Works  Aug 8, 2017 • 8:28:48am
On Aug. 8, 1974, President Richard Nixon announced he would resign following damaging revelations in the Watergate scandal.

I remember this.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2017 • 8:29:51am

re: #129 Birth Control Works

I remember this.

I dimly remember it; my parents made me watch it live on the grounds that it was history in the making.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2017 • 8:32:36am

re: #129 Birth Control Works

I remember this.

I don’t, although I was old enough (almost 8 yrs old). Weird. There wasn’t really a lot of political discussions in my household but it would seem I should recall something as momentous as this.

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Semper Fi  Aug 8, 2017 • 8:33:07am

re: #130 Dr Lizardo

I dimly remember it; my parents made me watch it live on the grounds that it was history in the making.

I was in mid-divorce thinking: Eh, you think you got problems!

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Birth Control Works  Aug 8, 2017 • 8:33:18am

Unlearning the myth of American innocence

When she was 30, Suzy Hansen left the US for Istanbul - and began to realise that Americans will never understand their own country until they see it as the rest of the world does

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2017 • 8:34:28am

re: #130 Dr Lizardo

I dimly remember it; my parents made me watch it live on the grounds that it was history in the making.

I watched those hearings like a hawk, every day.

I had not yet been acquainted with the term ‘schadenfreude,’ but I experienced it when Nixon resigned. When Watergate first hit, he seemed absolutely bulletproof.

Maybe that’s why I’m more hopeful than a lot of people that Trump will be brought low. When Nixon got re-elected, the thought of removing him from office seemed pretty much impossible.

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2017 • 8:37:30am

re: #111 b.d. (bill d.)

Are we going to go after the leaker who spilled the NK spy satellite info to Fox & Friends?

I’m sure Hannity is working up a story on that for tonight’s show.

Trump is the Deep State. Keep it on the downlow.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 8, 2017 • 8:38:20am

re: #133 Birth Control Works

Unlearning the myth of American innocence

Of this indifference, Baldwin wrote: “White children, in the main, and whether they are rich or poor, grow up with a grasp of reality so feeble that they can very accurately be described as deluded.”

Young white Americans of course go through pain, insecurity and heartache. But it is very, very rare that young white Americans come across someone who tells them in harsh, unforgiving terms that they might be merely the easy winners of an ugly game, and indeed that because of their ignorance and misused power, they might be the losers within a greater moral universe.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2017 • 8:45:00am

re: #136 Birth Control Works

I kind of want to use this as a case study and observe the behavior of Americans as they read this.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 8, 2017 • 8:47:57am

re: #136 Birth Control Works

Yeah, It’s a slow learning curve.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 8, 2017 • 8:50:41am
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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2017 • 8:54:38am

re: #129 Birth Control Works

I remember this.

I remember it well too. I was working maintenance crew at a small plating/plastics factory on the 10:00 PM to 6:00 AM shift.

I used to go straight to bed for a few hours after I got home. I woke up and went out into the living room where my mother had the TV on. Nixon was on (around noon?) giving his resignation speech.

Even though I was stupid enough to have voted for him in my first election in 1972, I was glad to see him go. I had learned my lesson.

Edit: Summer Job between Sophomore and Junior year of art college.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 8, 2017 • 8:55:21am

re: #59 FormerDirtDart

Just back from walking the dogs and my hands are sticky with blood.

But you got the body in the trunk, right?

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 8, 2017 • 8:57:31am
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Jay C  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:04:37am

re: #135 ObserverArt

re: #111 b.d. (bill d.)

Are we going to go after the leaker who spilled the NK spy satellite info to Fox & Friends?

I’m sure Hannity is working up a story on that for tonight’s show.

Any guesses on who Lumpy is likely to blame for this leak?

1. HIllary Clinton
2. Gen. McMaster
3. Robert Mueller
4. Hillary Clinton

etc….

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scottslemmons  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:06:13am

re: #104 Lupin

Color me unsurprised. Even when Greenwald was fighting the “good fight” against Bush, he was viscerally unable to alter his mind when confronted with facts that proved him wrong. I had a long email argument with him regarding some of the legalities of a famous criminal case I won’t mention here, about which he’d made some rash and totally untrue statements on his blog. He never conceded an inch about being wrong even when I confronted him with factual evidence to the contrary, chapter and verse, and quickly resorted to ad hominem insults. He is incapable of arguing with an open mind.

Greenwald’s fatal flaw is his ego. Tell him he’s wrong or imperfect, and he loses his shit. He could’ve been a decent analyst/columnist/reporter, but he chose permanent war against liberals who said he was wrong about stuff…

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:07:56am

Turned on MSNBC a few minutes ago to hear Ali Velshi and Stephanie Ruhle saying “we’re getting a lot of email and tweets complaining that we’ve had Eric Prince and Seb Gorka on, but those are the representatives”; then Stephanie: “do I like to have Gorka come on and say ‘gu-reeeetings’ [mimics his pompous speech]? It’s irrelevant; that’s who the administration has out there!”

Sometimes I love Stephanie Ruhle.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:08:00am
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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:08:41am

re: #143 Jay C

Any guesses on who Lumpy is likely to blame for this leak?

1. HIllary Clinton
2. Gen. McMaster
3. Robert Mueller
4. Hillary Clinton

etc….

You forgot Obama.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:09:30am

re: #123 Jebediah, RBG

??
Did some really bad thing happen? I hope not!

re: #141 Barefoot Grin

But you got the body in the trunk, right?

VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
re: #88 FormerDirtDart

Mosquitoes

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:11:07am

Rick Wilson loves slapping down Trumpers, especially the ones who claim they ‘don’t support’ Trump.

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:12:36am

re: #145 Barefoot Grin

Turned on MSNBC a few minutes ago to hear Ali Velshi and Stephanie Ruhle saying “we’re getting a lot of email and tweets complaining that we’ve had Eric Prince and Seb Gorka on, but those are the representatives”; then Stephanie: “do I like to have Gorka come on and say ‘gu-reeeetings’ [mimics his pompous speech]? It’s irrelevant; that’s who the administration has out there!”

Sometimes I love Stephanie Ruhle.

I haven’t seen her a lot, but she seems to be fearless. I saw her tear into Chris Matthews one night when he had her on his panel about something to do with New York and Trump. Chris said something like she was reporting rumors, she snapped right back and said with Trump there are always rumors and 95% of the time they are true, and she emphasized she knew New York and Chris did not. More or less telling him to piss off.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:16:38am

re: #82 Belafon

If Pepsi can turn in a guy for giving them the Coke formula, Republicans can put country over party, Glen.

Greenwald has made it clear that the country he serves is Russia.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:21:30am

re: #117 FormerDirtDart

OK, nothing like running out of coffee to get me off my lazy rear and onto the bike for a trip to the store.
Well, that and the fact that I’m pretty much out of food. And, I need to pick up this weeks lottery tickets too.

I almost forgot to grab coffee

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:23:12am

re: #150 ObserverArt

I haven’t seen her a lot, but she seems to be fearless. I saw her tear into Chris Matthews one night when he had her on his panel about something to do with New York and Trump. Chris said something like she was reporting rumors, she snapped right back and said with Trump there are always rumors and 95% of the time they are true, and she emphasized she knew New York and Chris did not. More or less telling him to piss off.

Yes. She is not afraid to go after deflection and dissembling, at least in the few cases I’ve seen.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:24:44am

re: #149 makeitstop

Rick Wilson loves slapping down Trumpers, especially the ones who claim they ‘don’t support’ Trump.

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What’s that term for when bullshitters try to bury you in an endless chain of lies to obfuscate the truth?

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Jay C  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:25:34am

re: #149 makeitstop

Jeez, what a load of horsepuckey - this list - even leaving aside the blatant partisan happy-talk spin - of Trump’s “accomplishments” is the best some hack (“non-supporter”, yeah, right!) can come up with? And about the only real “accomplishments” on there are mainly refugee- and immigrant-bashing.

When first scanned this, I read the tag at bottom as “And the Bust is Yet to Come” - I think I was right the first time.

And: “Selling American-made energy to Poland”?? WTF?

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:25:51am

re: #153 Barefoot Grin

Yes. She is not afraid to go after deflection and dissembling, at least in the few cases I’ve seen.

My boss, who’s from NYC himself, still can’t get over Trump getting elected. His view is that New Yorkers have known for decades that Trump is a con-man and a swindler, a self-aggrandizing buffoon.

Apparently, a whole lotta people didn’t know that - or more likely, they simply didn’t care.

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:31:46am

re: #154 Eclectic Cyborg

What’s that term for when bullshitters try to bury you in an endless chain of lies to obfuscate the truth?

Are you thinking of the Gish Gallop?

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:32:47am
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jeffreyw  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:33:31am

Imgur


Maiden batch of cookies in my new wifi enabled oven.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:33:40am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:35:53am

re: #160 FormerDirtDart

I hate when this happens.

/

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:37:38am

re: #154 Eclectic Cyborg

What’s that term for when bullshitters try to bury you in an endless chain of lies to obfuscate the truth?

Gish Gallop.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:39:03am

re: #158 FormerDirtDart

Bernie and his people aren’t Dems.
But they keep trying to impose this BS on us. So frustrating!

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:41:12am

re: #158 FormerDirtDart

Purity rules:
1. Can’t have ever received corporate money
2. Can’t have ever received campaign donation from really rich person.
3. Unequivocally support Single-Payer
4. Unequivocally support $15 min wage everywhere immediately.
5. Pledge to arrest all the bankers.
6. Pledge to withdraw U.S. military forces from everywhere.
7. Free college and university tuition.
8.

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Jay C  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:42:28am

re: #155 Jay C

Never mind about Poland: I Googled it* and it seems that when Trump was in Poland, he pitched some sort of deal for them to possibly buy LNG from the US (supposedly to relieve their reliance on Russian gas supplies).
Now I’m no expert on the international energy trade, but I’m not seeing any economic advantage for Poland to import American LNG (no matter how big the supertanker), vs. simply diverting the supply from the Euro-Russian pipelines which (I think) are right there.
Political “advantage”, maybe (though “poke-in-the-eye-for-Russians” is a dubious goal just for itself)

*stories from July: nothing since

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:42:43am

re: #164 Sir John Barron

Purity rules:
1. Can’t have ever received corporate money
2. Can’t have ever received campaign donation from really rich person.
3. Unequivocally support Single-Payer
4. Unequivocally support $15 min wage everywhere immediately.
5. Pledge to arrest all the bankers.
6. Pledge to withdraw U.S. military forces from everywhere.
7. Free college and university tuition.
8. Bend the knee to that fucking interloper.

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scottslemmons  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:43:03am

re: #164 Sir John Barron

Purity rules:
1. Can’t have ever received corporate money
2. Can’t have ever received campaign donation from really rich person.
3. Unequivocally support Single-Payer
4. Unequivocally support $15 min wage everywhere immediately.
5. Pledge to arrest all the bankers.
6. Pledge to withdraw U.S. military forces from everywhere.
7. Free college and university tuition.
8.

8. Must be Bernie Sanders.

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Weaselone  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:49:24am

re: #164 Sir John Barron

Purity rules:
1. Can’t have ever received corporate money
2. Can’t have ever received campaign donation from really rich person.
3. Unequivocally support Single-Payer
4. Unequivocally support $15 min wage everywhere immediately.
5. Pledge to arrest all the bankers.
6. Pledge to withdraw U.S. military forces from everywhere.
7. Free college and university tuition.
8.

Forgot to include that any/all of the above do not apply if you’re Bernie Sanders or have the Bernie Sanders special seal of approval.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:50:25am

re: #164 Sir John Barron

Purity rules:
1. Can’t have ever received corporate money
2. Can’t have ever received campaign donation from really rich person.
3. Unequivocally support Single-Payer
4. Unequivocally support $15 min wage everywhere immediately.
5. Pledge to arrest all the bankers.
6. Pledge to withdraw U.S. military forces from everywhere.
7. Free college and university tuition.
8. All previous rules not applicable to Bernie

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Birth Control Works  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:50:38am
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Alephnaught  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:52:09am

re: #55 Decatur Deb

Geriatric Terror Cell !!!

Monty Python: The Granny Gang

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:52:18am
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Teukka  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:52:55am

re: #171 Birth Control Works

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Damning if true.

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nines09  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:53:04am
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Birth Control Works  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:53:16am

re: #173 makeitstop

Will there be cake?

I remember this incident.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:53:23am
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Birth Control Works  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:53:51am

bbl

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Shropshire Slasher  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:54:20am

I am an ex-smoker, but I can really relate to this. I still miss smoking, but I know I am powerless against it.

Or maybe I’d bum a cigarette at a bar after one too many drinks—back when you could still smoke in bars, before smoking became regarded as an atrocity on a par with kitten-kicking and ethnic cleansing. I’d do this on occasion not because I liked the taste. (I didn’t.) Smoking during a rigorous drinking bout somehow brought on a hangover, which we drinking professionals consider the mark of an amateur. And that nicotine-induced hangover taste the next morning made my mouth feel, in the words of Kingsley Amis, like it had been “used as a latrine by some small creature of the night, and then as its mausoleum.”

But what I was after, on my occasional smoking safaris, was something other than tobacco flavor or diminished lung capacity. I liked the ceremony of the cigarette. The implicit danger of starting a fire near your face. The punctuation that talking while smoking affords, giving your words animation and shading: the stops and starts, the dramatic pauses, sitting still after exhaling while letting the smoke do all the work around you. It could make even some suburban hump drinking piss-water beer at the Greene Turtle on a Tuesday afternoon feel like Robert Mitchum in Out of the Past or like Keith Richards in life.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:54:23am

re: #149 makeitstop

Rick Wilson loves slapping down Trumpers, especially the ones who claim they ‘don’t support’ Trump.

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That list looks like the flip side of the wingnut memes about Obama.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:57:21am

Teen Goes on Anti-Tampon Rant, Internet Destroys Him

Today the British tabloids have given us a story that is such an absurdist mix of the infuriating and hilarious, it would be brilliant if it were a hoax. Meet Ryan Williams, or tampon boy: a self-identified “meninist” who feels that tampons are a “luxury item.”

Ryan began his controversial rant after learning about the movement to eliminate taxes on tampons.

“People are saying tampons shouldn’t be taxed because they are a necessity,” Ryan said, according to The Mirror. “but why can’t those women just learn to control their bladders?”

“If they are going to bleed then they should wait until they get to the toilet,” he continued. “It’s all about self-control.”

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Shropshire Slasher  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:58:31am

re: #181 Birth Control Works

um…

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Birth Control Works  Aug 8, 2017 • 9:59:54am

Youtube Video by The Atlantic
The United States is no longer a majority white, Christian country, and that is already beginning to have profound social and political implications. At 45 percent of the population, white Christians are a shrinking demographic—and the backlash from many members of the group against the increasing diversification of America has been swift and bitter. “People fight like that when they are losing a sense of place, a sense of belonging, and a sense of the country that they understand and love,” says Robert P. Jones, the author of The End of White Christian America, in this animated interview. “How do they reengage in public life when they can’t be the majority?”

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Birth Control Works  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:00:37am

re: #182 Shropshire Slasher

um…

Yeah, I couldn’t bbl after seeing that.

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Shropshire Slasher  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:01:37am

re: #184 Birth Control Works

I regret I only have one upding to give.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:07:47am
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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:08:26am

re: #181 Birth Control Works

Teen Goes on Anti-Tampon Rant, Internet Destroys Him

“If they are going to bleed then they should wait until they get to the toilet,” he continued. “It’s all about self-control.”

The school nurse at my elementary school did an evening intro to periods for girls and their mothers who couldn’t do it themselves. The school nurse was a scary small lady of a certain age, and offered a Q&A session. When one girl asked, ‘Do you bleed when you’re asleep?’, the nurse hollered, ‘YOU BREATHE WHEN YOU’RE ASLEEP, DON’T YOU?’ which I found to be an unsatisfactory answer, but nobody else had any questions after that.

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Renaissance_Man  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:09:51am

re: #180 The Vicious Babushka

That list looks like the flip side of the wingnut memes about Obama.

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That’s basically a phrasebook for Wingnut.

“Valerie Jarrett.”
“Reagan, with fist open.”
“Clinton, at Benghazi.”

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:10:40am

re: #171 Birth Control Works

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So they’re say I need to pick up where my grandpa left off in Europe in ‘45?

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Birth Control Works  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:11:24am

We used to hold-up lit lighters at concerts.

Now, the kids hold up their smart phones with the flash light app on.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:12:15am

re: #189 Eventual Carrion

So they’re say I need to pick up where my grandpa left off in Europe in ‘45?

Who TF knows what their thought process is. If they have one.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:13:56am

re: #188 Renaissance_Man

That’s basically a phrasebook for Wingnut.

“Valerie Jarrett.”
“Reagan, with fist open.”
“Clinton, at Benghazi.”

I would have let the beast kill him had he said that.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:16:44am

re: #183 Birth Control Works

At 45 percent of the population, white Christians are a shrinking demographic—and the backlash from many members of the group against the increasing diversification of America has been swift and bitter.

And because they tend to vote en bloc, it amplifies their voice. But I agree with the gist of that video - white Protestant Christians are a shrinking demographic and as time passes, their numbers will decline further. As noted, the difficulty is going to lie in them accepting the fact that they’re no longer the majority - and I think Trump is just the tip of a Texas-size iceberg of resentment.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:21:03am

re: #186 FormerDirtDart

I was kinda wondering what Andy Branco was up to now that he doesn’t have Obama or Hillary to kick around any more.

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b_sharp  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:22:41am

re: #3 freetoken

FALSE! THE EARTH IS FLAT!!!

ON BOTH SIDES!

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:23:30am
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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:24:23am

re: #181 Birth Control Works

Teen Goes on Anti-Tampon Rant, Internet Destroys Him

Whut???

Kid must live under a rock. Yet, he has a the net to find out about such things…so how did he come to that thinking???

Whut???

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:24:54am

re: #197 ObserverArt

Whut???

Kid must live under a rock. Yet, he has a the net to find out about such things…so how did he come to that thinking???

Whut???

“Men’s Rights” websites.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:32:08am

re: #159 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Maiden batch of cookies in my new wifi enabled oven.

A Wi-Fi Oven! WOW!!!!!

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:32:17am

re: #197 ObserverArt

Whut???

Kid must live under a rock. Yet, he has a the net to find out about such things…so how did he come to that thinking???

Whut???

“Redpill” bullshit.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:33:41am

re: #197 ObserverArt

Whut???

Kid must live under a rock. Yet, he has a the net to find out about such things…so how did he come to that thinking???

Whut???

Believe it or not, most males are woefully ignorant about women’s health. Unfortunately, I think their knowledge tends to fall into two categories —“can I get some or not”. I know men who still mark their calendars when their female co-workers are “irritable”.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:36:22am

re: #201 Birth Control Works

I know men who still mark their calendars when their female co-workers are “irritable”.

If I were a woman and I worked around such men, I would always be irritable. Ok, I’m actually pretty irritable 24/7, but….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:36:34am

re: #157 ObserverArt

Are you thinking of the Gish Gallop?

That’s it! Thanks.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:40:02am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:41:34am

re: #188 Renaissance_Man

That’s basically a phrasebook for Wingnut.

“Valerie Jarrett.”
“Reagan, with fist open.”
“Clinton, at Benghazi.”

Temba, his arms wide!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:42:36am

Putin, his chest bared riding a horse

**shudder**

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:43:12am

re: #204 Birth Control Works

rejectedprincesses.com

Noor Inayat Khan was, without a doubt, one of the bravest women to ever live. She was a British secret agent during World War II, working as a radio operator in occupied Paris. In fact, working as the only radio operator in occupied Paris. The average life span for that job was six weeks, and she lasted almost five months. She escaped the Gestapo numerous times and went out fighting. All this even though everything about her work went against her basic nature.

A great website, and a great book.

Edit: Here’s the book: amazon.com

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:43:23am
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Birth Control Works  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:44:31am

This was from a mic. article I posted a while back and can’t find. Men were asked to draw female genitals. The results were quite sad.

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b_sharp  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:46:35am

re: #202 Colère Tueur de Lapin

If I were a woman and I worked around such men, I would always be irritable. Ok, I’m actually pretty irritable 24/7, but….

If I worked around some guy who did that I’d become irritable. I do the sarcastic irritated guy really well.

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:50:04am

re: #154 Eclectic Cyborg

What’s that term for when bullshitters try to bury you in an endless chain of lies to obfuscate the truth?

Libertarianism.

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:50:54am

re: #198 The Vicious Babushka

“Men’s Rights” websites.

Ahh…I guess they really are Men’s Wrongs websites.

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Kragar  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:51:45am
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Shropshire Slasher  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:52:00am

re: #209 Birth Control Works

It’s easy, just draw the Dodge Ram logo

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:54:45am

re: #209 Birth Control Works

Not exactly Georgia O’Keeffe, there.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:55:13am
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Kragar  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:55:15am
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Romantic Heretic  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:55:30am

re: #183 Birth Control Works

When you’re used to privilege equality feels like oppression.

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:56:28am

re: #214 Shropshire Slasher

It’s easy, just draw the Dodge Ram logo

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Embedded Image

Uhhh…she said draw genitals. Fail.

If you want to discuss organs then…

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Birth Control Works  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:57:39am

ah, I still have some googlefu:

2014: We Asked Men to Draw Vaginas to Prove an Important Point

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:59:06am

re: #159 jeffreyw

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Maiden batch of cookies in my new wifi enabled oven.

wait…you can download cookies??????
not “cookies” but COOKIES?

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2017 • 10:59:30am
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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:00:15am

re: #192 Belafon

That’s basically a phrasebook for Wingnut.

“Valerie Jarrett.”
“Reagan, with fist open.”
“Clinton, at Benghazi.”

“Clinton and Jarrett at Benghazi when the walls fell”

Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra

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Birth Control Works  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:00:19am

re: #222 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

Yeah, he was good at writing.

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Shropshire Slasher  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:00:35am

re: #219 ObserverArt

You didn’t get you x-ray glasses yet?!

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:00:51am
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jaunte  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:01:09am

re: #217 Kragar

It’s amazing how many parrots on twitter shriek “fake news” at every turn.

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:01:45am

I have one question that covers so much.

What the hell ever happened to good ol’ curiosity?

I was always curious. If I didn’t know about something…even if it was something I wasn’t supposed to know about…I would find out one way or another.

And I didn’t have the internet.

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:02:21am

So, Roland Corporation gets clever with the rollout date of a new version of an old product…

I used to own one of the originals. I never liked the sounds, but as a brain to drive a drum sampler it was pretty brilliant.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:04:15am

BBL

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:04:28am
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dangerman  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:04:40am

re: #228 ObserverArt

I have one question that covers so much.

What the hell ever happened to good ol’ curiosity?

I was always curious. If I didn’t know about something…even if it was something I wasn’t supposed to know about…I would find out one way or another.

And I didn’t have the internet.

it:

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:05:59am
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jaunte  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:06:02am

Fooling himself.

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:06:44am

re: #227 jaunte

It’s amazing how many parrots on twitter shriek “fake news” at every turn.

Trump did that. I hate that bastard so much for doing that to us.

He has built his own excuse for everything with that phrase.

He is a complete dumb ass, but somehow smart enough to use phrases like that to communicate to the other dumb asses. It’s like code for idiots.

It is going to be real hard to clean up after he is gone. He has put a real hurt to reality.

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Kragar  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:07:08am
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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:08:23am
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jaunte  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:08:48am
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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:09:11am

re: #233 Charles Johnson

Maybe you should be paying attention to North Korea instead of repeating Fox News propaganda.

On that subject, this is a hell of a thread.

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jeffreyw  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:10:12am

re: #199 Joe Bacon 🌹

A Wi-Fi Oven! WOW!!!!!

It slow cooks at 2.4GHz, broils at 5GHz. I have yet to get it to quit opening the garage door. Hoping for a firmware update.

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Kragar  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:10:29am
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Belafon  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:10:47am

re: #213 Kragar

It’s a good thing no one was injured or we would have seen the white house jumping for joy.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:10:48am
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:11:05am

re: #237 FormerDirtDart

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Mitch, you imposed the artificial deadlines to ram your abomination of a healthcare bill through the Senate. That was all you.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:11:25am

Chuck Norris has endorsed Alabama mystic Roy Moore for the Senate.

wkrg.com

Set your Norris Phrasers to ‘stun’.

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sagehen  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:12:15am

re: #150 ObserverArt

I haven’t seen her a lot, but she seems to be fearless. I saw her tear into Chris Matthews one night when he had her on his panel about something to do with New York and Trump. Chris said something like she was reporting rumors, she snapped right back and said with Trump there are always rumors and 95% of the time they are true, and she emphasized she knew New York and Chris did not. More or less telling him to piss off.

The two most offensive things I’ve ever heard Chris Matthews say:

2006, shortly before the election. “If the Democrats take back the house, Nancy Pelosi will become speaker. This would be bad because a speaker has to be forceful and aggressive, a speaker has to enforce party discipline and punish those who won’t comply. Nobody wants to see a woman do that.”

2008, in the primaries — did a whole spiel comparing Hillary and Michelle’s looks on the campaign trail. Andrea Mitchell responds: “Those are Ivy League lawyers you’re talking about. Are their haircuts and necklines really the most important thing about them?”

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:13:19am
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jeffreyw  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:13:58am

re: #221 dangerman

wait…you can download cookies??????
not “cookies” but COOKIES?

You download the recipe and it prints the cookies with a dough-jet nozzle, still working out the kinks: raisins,etc.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:14:19am

re: #239 makeitstop

North Korea has 60 nuclear warheads ready for ICBM miniaturization…

Trying to make real-world sense of that statement. Not succeeding.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:15:24am

re: #234 jaunte

Fooling himself.

[Embedded content]

Fuck me, why do Trump’s advisers and staff feel so compelled to coddle this overgrown toddler?

*spit*

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:15:56am

Sessions continues to shrink the vote.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:16:00am

re: #238 jaunte

[ the Clinton/Lynch secret meeting in plane.]

I thought it was Clinton and Lynch on the Tarmac.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:16:36am

re: #245 Decatur Deb

Chuck Norris has endorsed Alabama mystic Roy Moore for the Senate.

wkrg.com

Set your Norris Phrasers to ‘stun’.

You misspelled “dumbass”.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:16:40am

re: #227 jaunte

It’s amazing how many parrots on twitter shriek “fake news” at every turn.

And yet they get their “Real News” from Infowars, Breitbart, and Hannity.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:17:03am

Thread

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Kragar  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:17:12am
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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:17:41am

re: #237 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

I bet that pisses off Trump and there will be a big crack in the relationship between Trump and McConnell.

That is a good thing. It pretty much will kill any cooperation to get anything done because Trump will not work with anyone that is that critical of him. And, it also might make it easier for McConnell to turn the Senate against Trump and maybe boot him out.

The Democrats can also use it to gain some cooperation with the Republicans in the Senate…they can both ignore Trump.

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:18:01am

re: #252 wrenchwench

He can’t spell tarmac.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:18:41am

re: #250 Dr Lizardo

Fuck me, why do Trump’s advisers and staff feel so compelled to coddle this overgrown toddler?

*spit*

To keep him in office long enough for them to push their agendas.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:19:14am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:21:09am

re: #259 wrenchwench

To keep him in office long enough for them to push their agendas.

Personally, I’d have no patience for that kind of horseshit. Zip. Zero. None. Nada.

I’d never make it in Trump’s White House: I’d be calling him a “fucking whiny little three-year old” by the end of the first day.

At least I’d have to decency to say that to his face.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:21:12am
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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:21:16am
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:22:26am

re: #246 sagehen

The two most offensive things I’ve ever heard Chris Matthews say:

2006, shortly before the election. “If the Democrats take back the house, Nancy Pelosi will become speaker. This would be bad because a speaker has to be forceful and aggressive, a speaker has to enforce party discipline and punish those who won’t comply. Nobody wants to see a woman do that.”

2008, in the primaries — did a whole spiel comparing Hillary and Michelle’s looks on the campaign trail. Andrea Mitchell responds: “Those are Ivy League lawyers you’re talking about. Are their haircuts and necklines really the most important thing about them?”

Well I dunno, it was really creepy when he said that Obama sent chills down his leg. I was like, Dude TMI!

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:22:34am
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:23:48am

re: #240 jeffreyw

It slow cooks at 2.4GHz, broils at 5GHz. I have yet to get it to quit opening the garage door. Hoping for a firmware update.

I read a novel recently about a killer who hacks a guy’s wi-fi enabled oven and burns his house down.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:25:15am
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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:27:19am

Is John Kelly still the White House Chief of Staff???

Trump’s tweets yesterday and today are crazier than ever. He also has his goon squad (Gorka, Conway and others) out working the cable news. I can’t believe Kelly likes that either.

Kelly is not long for this job. Will he last another week, or the length of Trump’s vacation?

If he gives in and resigns, I think that pushes the Republicans into a no-win-with-Trump situation.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:28:06am

re: #234 jaunte

Fooling himself.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:28:46am

re: #261 Dr Lizardo

Personally, I’d have no patience for that kind of horseshit. Zip. Zero. None. Nada.

I’d never make it in Trump’s White House: I’d be calling him a “fucking whiny little three-year old” by the end of the first day.

At least I’d have to decency to say that to his face.

I’ve done a lot of babysitting. I would do what I did then; raise my price until they quit calling. (In the old days, I went from 75 cents to a dollar an hour. Calls stopped.)

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:29:53am

re: #269 FormerDirtDart

“Sometimes just pictures of Trump on TV looking powerful.”

Must be a channel I don’t get.

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:31:00am

re: #269 FormerDirtDart

2x/day Trump gets a folder of positive news chyrons, known to staff as the “propaganda document”

Gotta feed the (man-) baby…

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:32:41am

re: #269 FormerDirtDart

I hope Kellyanne is saving those folders for his presidential* library.

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jeffreyw  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:33:04am

Imgur


Cheesy broccoli soup

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:35:08am
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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:40:52am
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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:41:42am

She (ISIS) looks a bit like my ex-wife Jennifer. #IWasMarriedToISIS

The Secrets of Isis Introduction

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:42:39am
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dangerman  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:43:52am

re: #234 jaunte

Fooling himself.

[Embedded content]

It’s infantile

Weak

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sagehen  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:51:03am

re: #266 The Vicious Babushka

I read a novel recently about a killer who hacks a guy’s wi-fi enabled oven and burns his house down.

I’ve also seen TV episodes where a killer hacks somebody’s car, and runs it off a cliff/into a river/etc.

I don’t want my house or car to be web-accessible. Ever.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:51:07am

Meet the newest hero of the alt-right, James Damore, an engineer just fired by Google for posting a manifesto internally at Google explaining that diversity programs are worthless because women are too neurotic to be good engineers.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:51:35am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:53:45am

re: #245 Decatur Deb

Chuck Norris has endorsed Alabama mystic Roy Moore for the Senate.

wkrg.com

Set your Norris Phrasers to ‘stun’.

Of course he did.

I’m sure St. Roy forgave Chucky of his multiple adulteries…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:53:55am

re: #63 makeitstop

…the hell?

[Embedded content]

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:55:29am

re: #282 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

The caps and exclamation points make it valid

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:55:32am

re: #280 sagehen

I’ve also seen TV episodes where a killer hacks somebody’s car, and runs it off a cliff/into a river/etc.

I don’t want my house or car to be web-accessible. Ever.

IOT (Internet Of Things) devices are notoriously insecure, because (1) manufacturers use older software (2) users don’t know how to update their appliances.

Why would I even want a wifi-enabled toaster?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:56:45am
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Stanley Sea  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:56:52am

fucking scam

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2017 • 11:57:04am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:00:59pm

re: #246 sagehen

The two most offensive things I’ve ever heard Chris Matthews say:

2006, shortly before the election. “If the Democrats take back the house, Nancy Pelosi will become speaker. This would be bad because a speaker has to be forceful and aggressive, a speaker has to enforce party discipline and punish those who won’t comply. Nobody wants to see a woman do that.”

2008, in the primaries — did a whole spiel comparing Hillary and Michelle’s looks on the campaign trail. Andrea Mitchell responds: “Those are Ivy League lawyers you’re talking about. Are their haircuts and necklines really the most important thing about them?”

My dislike of Tweety goes back much further when he was one of the Four Horsemen demanding Clinton’s Impeachment (along with Maureen Dowd, Tim Russert and Michael Kelly). Back then Matthews tore the Clintons to pieces every time he opened his mouth…

Then fast forward to 2000 when Tweety along with his fellow presstitutes trashed Al Gore and endlessly kissed Dumbya’s ass…And don’t forget the 2000 New York Senate Race when Tweety’s pal Tim Russert was “moderating” the debate and trashed Hillary all through that incident. Tweety was cheering Russert on, calling Hillary a carpetbagger…

And who can forget in 2003 when Tweety was slobbering all over Dumbya flying the jet on the carrier deck. Tweety had Gordon Liddy on with him when this ocurred. Tweety kept gushing over what a man Dumbya was…

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BeachDem  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:02:29pm

re: #249 Decatur Deb

Trying to make real-world sense of that statement. Not succeeding.

Probably because it’s “experimental journalism” that embraces “the multi-dimensionality of metanarrative.”
//

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:03:41pm
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Eventual Carrion  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:06:39pm

re: #239 makeitstop

On that subject, this is a hell of a thread.

[Embedded content]

Didn’t Clinton tell Bush that his main priority/threat was bin Laden and his group?

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:08:48pm

re: #291 BeachDem

Probably because it’s “experimental journalism” that embraces “the multi-dimensionality of metanarrative.”
//

Ah. Post-modernist deconstruction applied to fissile materials.

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:09:11pm

re: #286 The Vicious Babushka

IOT (Internet Of Things) devices are notoriously insecure, because (1) manufacturers use older software (2) users don’t know how to update their appliances.

Why would I even want a wifi-enabled toaster?

My one buddy bought a Samsung smart TV. He liked to watch YouTube videos with it. After about 6 months the Adobe Flash player software was out of date and would no longer play the videos.

Samsung had no real easy way to update the flash player.

He was pissed.

I tried to help him out so I went online and did a search and found out a ton of people were pissed off about the same problem. There were some shaky sights that said they had updates, but you had to buy some kind of a service or something.

He bought a Google Chrome Cast. Still hasn’t hooked it up yet. He bought a newer Sony Smart TV. The old one went to his wife’s office.

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:09:14pm

re: #293 Eventual Carrion

Didn’t Clinton tell Bush that his main priority/threat was bin Laden and his group?

There was that ‘bin Laden determined to strike within the US’ briefing that Dubya blew off while he was on vacation…

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Kragar  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:10:03pm
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sagehen  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:11:23pm

re: #293 Eventual Carrion

Didn’t Clinton tell Bush that his main priority/threat was bin Laden and his group?

yes.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:11:54pm

re: #281 Big Beautiful Door

Meet the newest hero of the alt-right, James Damore, an engineer just fired by Google for posting a manifesto internally at Google explaining that diversity programs are worthless because women are too neurotic to be good engineers.

Man, dude can’t catch a break out there. Rough.

/////

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:13:27pm

re: #288 Stanley Sea

fucking scam

[Embedded content]

Chris Hayes did a bit on that last night. They also did ads in the paper that were very small and placed in a way they would hardly be seen.

It was all to meet the regulations they had to advertise for American citizens before they could get the VISAs for foreign help.

Just more fake news.

If his bozo base knew what he was really doing they might get pissed off. Then again, they probably wouldn’t.

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BeachDem  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:15:03pm

re: #294 Decatur Deb

Ah. Post-modernist deconstruction applied to fissile materials.

In the immortal words of Wonkette’s Dr. Zoom:

Against this barren Eve of Deconstruction, Abramson places Metamodernism, which is so post-postmodern that it can rebuild where deconstruction has strip-mined meaning.

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:15:27pm

re: #290 Joe Bacon 🌹

My dislike of Tweety goes back much further when he was one of the Four Horsemen demanding Clinton’s Impeachment (along with Maureen Dowd, Tim Russert and Michael Kelly). Back then Matthews tore the Clintons to pieces every time he opened his mouth…

Then fast forward to 2000 when Tweety along with his fellow presstitutes trashed Al Gore and endlessly kissed Dumbya’s ass…And don’t forget the 2000 New York Senate Race when Tweety’s pal Tim Russert was “moderating” the debate and trashed Hillary all through that incident. Tweety was cheering Russert on, calling Hillary a carpetbagger…

And who can forget in 2003 when Tweety was slobbering all over Dumbya flying the jet on the carrier deck. Tweety had Gordon Liddy on with him when this ocurred. Tweety kept gushing over what a man Dumbya was…

Tweety is big on optics.

He is also about 20 years behind on modern communications and doesn’t seem to want to learn.

I think he should hang it up. The world really has passed him by.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:16:19pm

This one left a mark. They original tweet screen cap is in the ownage thread.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:18:30pm

re: #302 ObserverArt

Tweety is big on optics.

He is also about 20 years behind on modern communications and doesn’t seem to want to learn.

I think he should hang it up. The world really has passed him by.

Tweety is the very personification of “The so-called Liberal Media”: Gets credited/blamed as a liberal, actually isn’t one.

Honorable mention: The late Tim Russert

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:20:19pm
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Kragar  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:20:58pm
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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:22:26pm

re: #306 Kragar

Hannity in two minutes: Phew, that was the roughest 12 hours of my life, hateful liberals won’t give me or the best president in the history of the world a chance.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:24:14pm

re: #306 Kragar

Hmm…..

Knowing he and his network are coordinating with the WH, I think this threat he’s uncharacteristically deferring to means we may be ginning up.

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Kragar  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:24:15pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:24:23pm
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Kragar  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:26:14pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:26:15pm

re: #306 Kragar

Second sentence negates significance of first.

If he’s watching what other people are doing to pick and choose who’s still caught up in “petty” stuff, then he’s not actually disengaged.

So this is a middle school level bit of theater.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:26:20pm

re: #310 Stanley Sea

WHY WONT THE FAKE NEWS MEDIA TALK ABOUT HOW GREAT TRUMPS PRESIDENTIAL COMMISSION ON OPIOD CRISIS IS SO GREAT AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS!!!!!

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:26:47pm

re: #303 JordanRules

This one left a mark. They original tweet screen cap is in the ownage thread.

[Embedded content]

A guy on the receiving end of that thread just needs to go to a city where they still have streetcars so he can step in front of one.

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:27:16pm

re: #310 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]so, i’m waiting for trump’s opioid briefing to start and just noticed … the white house spelled opioid wrong

that’s odd

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:27:37pm

re: #311 Kragar

“I will spend twelve hours not tweeting for the purpose of dragging everyone that keeps tweeting during that arbitray amount of time that in no way relates to the timeframe of the cited emergency.

Because I really care.”

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:28:02pm
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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:28:57pm

re: #317 Charles Johnson

Damnet GOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Damnet!!!!!!!!! You own this!!!!!!!!!!!

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Kragar  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:29:56pm
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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:30:13pm
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Kragar  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:31:01pm
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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:31:09pm

re: #317 Charles Johnson

BREAKING: Trump: If NKorea escalates nuclear threat, ‘they will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen.’

That’ll show them.

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:31:51pm

re: #320 Dr. Matt

Trump: N Korea “best not make any more threats to the US. They will be met with fire and fury the likes of which the world has never seen.”

That stupid son of a bitch.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:32:34pm

re: #323 makeitstop

That stupid son of a bitch.

Sounds like Stilgar is the new communications director.

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Teukka  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:33:32pm

re: #317 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Christ…
*decides to go to bed*

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:34:53pm
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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:36:35pm

re: #326 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

No water bottle.

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:37:17pm

That news sure did a number on the stock market.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:37:32pm

re: #317 Charles Johnson

Jesus Christ he sounds just like Kim Jong Un.

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plansbandc  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:39:28pm

re: #181 Birth Control Works

Holy balls.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2017 • 12:54:37pm

re: #317 Charles Johnson

We’re gonna make that wall ten feet higher.


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