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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:08:51pm
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Ace Rothstein  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:08:59pm

Send Eric and Junior to fight, shithead.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:09:00pm

His math sucks.
it’s not even 16 years yet

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petesh  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:09:03pm

All our military are bonded by love, except the trannies.

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:09:31pm

How are we supposed to not watch it if you put up a link? //

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:09:37pm

re: #2 Ace Rothstein

Send Eric and Junior to fight, shithead.

Jared and Ivanka too.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:10:12pm

I’ve studied Afghanistan - translation I don’t know shit.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:10:27pm

Any time conservatives get in political trouble, they rabble rouse for war. All my life, always the same.

Considering how much trouble Trump is in, we’ll be at war with forty countries at this rate.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:10:38pm

Also, here we go from “Get the hell out of there” to “I didn’t really mean it”.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:10:51pm

Hillary is a hawk!!

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:11:03pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹

Any time conservatives get in political trouble, they rabble rouse for war. All my life, always the same.

Considering how much trouble Trump is in, we’ll be at war with forty countries at this rate.

And what will he do for his second year?

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b.d. (bill d.)  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:11:42pm

if someone changed his telepromter, he’d read it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:13:15pm

re: #11 Belafon

And what will he do for his second year?

Hopefully be marched out of the White House by the FBI.

What next, he goes back into Iraq, a war created by conservatives for no reason other than W didn’t like Saddam Hussein’s insult of his father?

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:13:19pm

re: #12 b.d. (bill d.)

if someone changed his telepromter, he’d read it.

“I resign.”

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:13:25pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:14:04pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:14:10pm

I cannot watch that liar. Just the thought of him making a speech in the Oval Office nauseates me.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:14:51pm

Is he squinting? Please tell me he’s squinting.

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makeitstop  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:14:59pm

I think he’s getting pissed that no one’s applauding. Starting to veer off script.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:15:12pm
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Dr. Matt  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:15:26pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:15:34pm

Losers? No one has ever won a war in Afghanistan since Alexander. Is he threatening Pakistan too?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:16:18pm

re: #15 FormerDirtDart

Alarming superficiality. The President is a public figure, but it’s not his job to be a public figure.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:16:34pm

So basically this is an address to tell us that he’s not going to tell us what he’s doing.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:16:51pm
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Belafon  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:17:32pm

re: #15 FormerDirtDart

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Birth Control Works  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:17:46pm

re: #4 petesh

All our military are bonded by love, except the trannies.

sexual assault is not love.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:18:00pm
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Ace Rothstein  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:18:04pm

This speech is basically Bush in 2006.

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makeitstop  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:18:28pm

Wait, is he picking a fight with Pakistan here?

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Birth Control Works  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:18:47pm

killing —nice

/gah

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Birth Control Works  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:19:29pm

re: #30 makeitstop

Wait, is he picking a fight with Pakistan here?

he is dick wagging.

going to get us all killed, but he is the best at dick waving.

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nines09  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:19:36pm

Tomorrow night he’s in Arizona with the warm caress of nitwits clanking off his empty skull. Tomorrow night Donald shows up. Banners and cheers and visions of grandeur. A love fest of sluts and King Pimp. He’ll drink deep and just rant and rave. Tomorrow night he’s “Presidential”.
I must go heave.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:19:47pm
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Dr. Matt  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:19:48pm
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Kilroy was here  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:20:00pm

Pivot…. cough cough..

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:20:09pm

Nation building is precisely what we did after WW2, in South Korea, Japan, &c.

That’s why conservatives don’t like nation building. Peaceful nations don’t make good war targets.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:20:51pm
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Birth Control Works  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:21:12pm

re: #38 Anymouse 🌹

Nation building is precisely what we did after WW2, in South Korea, Japan, &c.

That’s why conservatives don’t like nation building. Peaceful nations don’t make good war targets.

IT only works to increase competition in the marketplace.

How can that be a good thing?

/gah

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:21:14pm
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makeitstop  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:21:30pm

The diplomatic community must be tearing their collective hair out right now.

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Kragar  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:21:44pm
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majii  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:21:54pm

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹

“Losers? No one has ever won a war in Afghanistan since Alexander….”

Thank you! The Tool-in-chief knows jacksh*t about history, and it shows.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:22:05pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:22:41pm
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Birth Control Works  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:22:42pm

“me, me, me, I , I , I, my, my, my”

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Birth Control Works  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:23:27pm

“I’m going to make a lot of money with this plan”

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:23:45pm

$50 says he thought the soldiers would applaud when he walked on stage.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:23:48pm

I putting headphones in to listen to heavy metal.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:23:50pm

re: #42 makeitstop

The diplomatic community must be tearing their collective hair out right now.

What little bit of a diplomatic community we have.

“Our troops fight to win?” Well, they try. You need a strategy and a goal first.

When we went into Afghanistan, it was to oust the Taliban from the government and find bin Laden. Those goals were achieved.

So what’s the goal now?

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Kragar  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:24:02pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:24:09pm
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Dr. Matt  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:24:12pm

Yup;

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jaunte  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:24:13pm

re: #48 Birth Control Works

“India has not paid us nearly enough, and they’re making a lot of money I can tell you.”

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Kilroy was here  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:24:19pm

Another icon reacts to Trump’s speech…

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Birth Control Works  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:24:45pm

re: #56 Kilroy was here

Another icon reacts to Trump’s speech…

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my fantasy

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makeitstop  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:24:50pm

This is 100% bullshit. He hasn’t said a fucking thing.

It’s a bad motivational speech.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:24:57pm
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jaunte  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:25:06pm
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Birth Control Works  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:25:23pm

going to make t-shirts

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:25:30pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:25:41pm

re: #47 Birth Control Works

“me, me, me, I , I , I, my, my, my”

I’m old enough to remember when wingnuts lost their collective minds once when President Obama used “I” once.

What economy of Afghanistan is supposed to support this effort? That would be the nation building part.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:25:43pm

I’m getting tired of all this winning.

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Kragar  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:25:46pm
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jaunte  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:25:55pm

We will send in Eric Prince to seize the opium.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:26:08pm

Did he just allude to using nuclear weapons?

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Birth Control Works  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:26:12pm

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹

I’m old enough to remember when wingnuts lost their collective minds once when President Obama used “I” once.

What economy of Afghanistan is supposed to support this effort? That would be the nation building part.

The poppy fields, of course.

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petesh  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:27:17pm

This is complete horseshit.

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Kragar  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:27:19pm
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jaunte  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:27:26pm
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majii  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:27:30pm

This tool f*cks up everything he touches.

Threatening another nuclear-armed nation?

No problem in this tool’s mind.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:28:52pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:28:54pm

Oh course Trump likes Modi.

Nationalist, doesn’t like Muslims, in arm’s reach of thuggish behavior, kleptocratic economic policy.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:28:55pm
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Bass Reeves  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:28:57pm

Literally doubling down on a less controlled Obama plan. Hillary would have given a similar speech, but w/o the war crimes and saber rattling.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:29:17pm

“He did not answer a lot of questions?!”

He didn’t answer any questions.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:29:26pm

Trump shakes hands with 4 generals and leave, Obama and Bush would shake enlisted people’s hands and pose for pictures for minutes.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:29:44pm

re: #66 jaunte

Absolutely for real: massive rare earth metal deposits.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:30:24pm
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nines09  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:30:28pm

re: #62 FormerDirtDart

A real man pulls cooling rods out of the deep end in a nuke reactor. Naked.

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Kragar  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:31:19pm
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Bubblehead II  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:32:03pm

re: #50 Birth Control Works

I putting headphones in to listen to heavy metal.

I just finished watching last night GoT. Ice King has some very interesting options open to him. Next week should be interesting. Trump on the other hand. I’ll keep an eye on him. Just like I do the mutt down the street.

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majii  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:32:06pm

re: #79 The Ghost of a Flea

“Absolutely for real: massive rare earth metal deposits.”

I read a few weeks ago that China already has made some deals to mine some of those materials in Afghanistan.

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teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:33:20pm

Since the TV is in another room, I didn’t see a new thread get made. I got CLed (RIP Aminah).

From downstairs.

My takeaway from the fuckin’ Fuckface Von Clownstick speech.

OUR TROOPS ARE THE BESTEST EVAH! WE’RE GOING TO WAR! BUT I’M NOT TELLING YOU HOW, WHY OR WHEN, TROOPS BE ON CALL, WE’RE GONNA KICK SOME TERRIST ASS AND PAKISTAN AND INDIA WILL HELP. OH, AND OBAMA PULLED TROOPS OUT OF IRAQ AND THAT MAKES OBAMA A TERRIST SYMPATHIZER. RAH RAH RAH GOD BLESS AMERICA.

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jaunte  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:33:44pm
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makeitstop  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:33:55pm

Note that the applause stopped as soon as he left the stage. The military in attendance did not like what they heard.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:34:09pm
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jaunte  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:34:27pm
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stpaulbear  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:35:07pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ✔ @Green_Footballs
As a musician, I knew some serious cokeheads. I was never into it, but they sounded exactly like Trump sounds tonight.

They should zoom in on his face to see if he has a cocaine booger like Neil Young did at The Last Waltz.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:35:24pm
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Kragar  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:35:28pm
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Bass Reeves  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:35:57pm

re: #84 majii

A few years ago, when countries were bidding on resource rights, a corrupt Afghan official admitted to taking a bribe from China for mineral rights. I don’t recall if they made everyone rebid, but basically American blood and Chinese borrowed treasure paid for this war, and China is getting theirs back.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:36:40pm

“The drip is the best part” ~ POTUS

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jaunte  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:36:46pm

“I have already given two cousins to the war and I stand ready to sacrifice my wife’s brother.”

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Kragar  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:37:14pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:37:53pm
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makeitstop  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:39:12pm

Oh, great. Ryan, pandering.

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jaunte  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:39:48pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:39:55pm

These fucking assholes.

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:41:01pm

re: #76 Bass Reeves

Literally doubling down on a less controlled Obama plan. Hillary would have given a similar speech, but w/o the war crimes and saber rattling.

Clinton’s speech would have included the sleep schedule for all of the soldiers and fifteen contingency plans, and it would have been declared not detailed enough.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:41:43pm
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petesh  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:41:45pm

So the plan is, to send more troops if needed, spend more money if needed, and to win.

Also, to kick Pakistan’s ass as and when needed and to pick India’s pocket.

Moreover, the rest of NATO is going to step up and help us.

This is bloviating bullshit of the smelliest order. I look forward to the responses from Merkel, May & Macron (the 3M company), not to mention Karachi and Delhi. Oh, and Kabul too.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:43:17pm

My wife is going to switch her Websites from using Amazon’s click-through for purchases to Barnes & Noble. She is also writing Amazon Investor Services (since they are ignoring their help service) to tell them why (Amazon violating its own terms by allowing Breitbart to use their service).

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Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:45:12pm

ewe I posted the tweet of a breitbarter

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Kragar  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:45:12pm
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Kragar  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:46:37pm
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Kragar  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:48:12pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:48:39pm

Realize that by “kill terrorists” he means, “re-define who counts as a terrorist and blast away.”

Look at who his advisers are, who sets his understanding of politics in the Islamic world. Neither he nor his cadre give two shits about Afghans, compared to “winning.”

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:49:17pm
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Belafon  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:49:32pm
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makeitstop  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:50:32pm

Trump’s bluster and Ryan’s apologia will not change a thing.

The military at that horrible address sat on their hands. And every question at Ryan’s town hall so far has been critical of Trump.

The Trump administration is under water. Nobody is buying the spin.

Full-on Nazi Trump will hit the stage in Phoenix tomorrow, bank it.

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fern01  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:50:57pm

I got nothin’ but thanks to those who watched/listened - I can’t cope with doing either

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jaunte  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:51:00pm

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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jaunte  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:51:37pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:51:47pm

Also notable:

What’s the win condition versus a terrorist organization?

No, seriously…how do you define the termination point? These groups recruit continuously, people take on the mantle without any kind of formal induction, and break-off groups are frequent.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:51:50pm

Missed this one

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:51:52pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

These fucking assholes.

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That’s why Hillary called them deplorable. I think she was too kind.

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stpaulbear  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:52:22pm

re: #104 Anymouse 🌹

My wife is going to switch her Websites from using Amazon’s click-through for purchases to Barnes & Noble. She is also writing Amazon Investor Services (since they are ignoring their help service) to tell them why (Amazon violating its own terms by allowing Breitbart to use their service).

Spend $25 to become a member. Their prices are almost always higher than Amazon, but they’re pretty steady with discount coupons via email. I just keep everything I want on a wish list and wait until I have a coupon. I’m lucky in that B&N has a really good record department in the store closest to my house. Lots of vinyl.

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:53:02pm
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Interesting Times  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:53:30pm

Good freaking grief, I’d already forgotten about that shit due to all the other shit that’s happened since:

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jaunte  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:54:03pm

The Russia investigation is still there.
The Nazi Trump supporters are still there.
The blatant corruption and self-dealing is still there.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:55:24pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:55:26pm
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Belafon  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:56:18pm

re: #121 Interesting Times

Good freaking grief, I’d already forgotten about that shit due to all the other shit that’s happened since:

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I suspect Trump doesn’t like the fact that no one remembers MOAB. It was big and awesome.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:56:48pm

re: #121 Interesting Times

The MOAB and the jump in civilian casualties in Iraq are front and center for me.

It’s not a formal doctrine, but there’s indicators of what the new “style” is going to be.

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Kragar  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:58:31pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:59:16pm
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jaunte  Aug 21, 2017 • 6:59:42pm

re: #126 The Ghost of a Flea

The MOAB and the jump in civilian casualties in Iraq are front and center for me.

It’s not a formal doctrine, but there’s indicators of what the new “style” is going to be.

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petesh  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:00:38pm

re: #126 The Ghost of a Flea

The MOAB and the jump in civilian casualties in Iraq are front and center for me.

It’s not a formal doctrine, but there’s indicators of what the new “style” is going to be.

Killing people IS his fucking doctrine. IIRC, Afghanistan is shortly to hold elections; you’d think he might have mentioned it. He could have coordinated with the big and scary neighbor — China literally shares a border with Afghanistan. He could have announced a joint effort with allies to rebuild Afghanistan, but no, nation building is right out. This is an “oh shit” moment, not just for Afghanistan but for the world.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:01:06pm

re: #129 jaunte

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He got away with a lot and that’s why we’re stuck with him.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:02:28pm

So predictable #complicit

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calochortus  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:02:43pm

re: #79 The Ghost of a Flea

Absolutely for real: massive rare earth metal deposits.

re: #84 majii

“Absolutely for real: massive rare earth metal deposits.”

I read a few weeks ago that China already has made some deals to mine some of those materials in Afghanistan.

Reuters had a piece yesterday about why that ain’t gonna happen for Trump and how the Chinese mining efforts aren’t going well.
Spoiler: Among other things, there’s no infrastructure to make it possible to get the minerals out.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:02:44pm

Well here’s a shocker:

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jaunte  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:03:54pm

“From now on victory will have a clear definition.”
– Donald Trump

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:04:37pm

re: #132 Stanley Sea

So predictable #complicit

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Nope Paul. Doesn’t work that way at all. Nice try though.

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petesh  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:04:56pm

re: #135 jaunte

“From now on victory will have a clear definition.”
– Donald Trump

What is it?
– Me

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:05:25pm

re: #133 calochortus

I’m not saying it’s a good plan, or at all feasible.

But Trump has been consistent in his fantasy that we invade a country and then tender them a bill.

But, as a student of colonialism…creating just enough infrastructure to gut a valuable natural resources is a thing that’s been done before.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:05:28pm

Sick of the excuses and no expectations for him. He’s president ffs.

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:05:51pm

re: #117 Stanley Sea

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Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:09:07pm

I’m addicted to roasted asparagus.

For awhile it was brussels sprouts.

Both stink my condo up.

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calochortus  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:09:09pm

re: #138 The Ghost of a Flea

I’m not saying it’s a good plan, or at all feasible.

But Trump has been consistent in his fantasy that we invade a country and then tender them a bill.

But, as a student of colonialism…creating just enough infrastructure to gut a valuable natural resources is a thing that’s been done before.

Not in Afghanistan. But yeah, Trump doesn’t learn from anything, anywhere.

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calochortus  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:09:50pm

re: #141 Stanley Sea

I’m addicted to roasted asparagus.

For awhile it was brussels sprouts.

Both stink my condo up.

Worth it. Especially the asparagus.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:10:25pm
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jaunte  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:10:32pm

re: #142 calochortus

Complains about Mattis being too “didactic.”
Not that he knew the word, that was from a staffer.

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fern01  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:10:45pm

re: #138 The Ghost of a Flea

I’m not saying it’s a good plan, or at all feasible.

But Trump has been consistent in his fantasy that we invade a country and then tender them a bill.

But, as a student of colonialism…creating just enough infrastructure to gut a valuable natural resources is a thing that’s been done before.

The reparations from WWI led to the rise of Hitler. The rebuilding of W. Germany and Japan after WWII led to trusted allies for 70 years (until trump came along)

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calochortus  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:11:05pm

re: #133 calochortus

Reuters had a piece yesterday about why that ain’t gonna happen for Trump and how the Chinese mining efforts aren’t going well.
Spoiler: Among other things, there’s no infrastructure to make it possible to get the minerals out.

Neglected to put in the link to the article.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:11:19pm

re: #53 The Vicious Babushka

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I liked Rumsfeld’s “dead-enders” better.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:12:33pm
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meteor  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:14:30pm

Better than the President’s speech.

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sagehen  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:15:09pm

re: #107 Kragar

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Clear eyes, full hearts, can’t lose.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:15:17pm
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petesh  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:16:08pm

re: #152 Stanley Sea

New strategy? Kill more bad guys.

Does it make sense? Uh, no.

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:16:31pm

re: #152 Stanley Sea

And how it differed from Obama’s?

Edit: And you’re not allowed to use the word winning.

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sagehen  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:17:17pm

re: #108 Kragar

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Except for the Trans people who want to enlist, or the immigrants who we won’t give green cards to after they fought for us

And we’ll be doing it without local guides and translators this time, since they’ve learned that we’re going to leave them there after.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:17:38pm

re: #149 Charles Johnson

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Wait, he had supporters behind him but an all military audience?

Is that photo from tonight?

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b.d. (bill d.)  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:17:49pm

re: #152 Stanley Sea

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If you were asked, could you explain what the new strategy for Afghanistan is?

All I know is that Ivanka will leak to the press how she was against it all along…

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:18:33pm

re: #141 Stanley Sea

I’m addicted to roasted asparagus.

For awhile it was brussels sprouts.

Both stink my condo up.

Totally stank ours up with mushrooms last night. Stinky sauteed veggies = tasty veggies.

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calochortus  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:22:07pm

Since I didn’t watch the speech, am I safe in assuming it was as horrible as one might expect? Said nothing? Marked his pivot to being presidential?

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makeitstop  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:25:48pm

re: #156 Stanley Sea

Wait, he had supporters behind him but an all military audience?

Is that photo from tonight?

No, that’s from another night. He was on stage alone tonight.

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jaunte  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:25:49pm
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Dr. Matt  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:25:54pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:27:10pm

Look guys we already knew about this policy. Like many, I kinda left it alone at the time. When we have ISIS pinned in somewhere, I’m totally fine with the big hammer. But when they are mixed with civilians, hostages, we do not abandon our humanity for the sake of ending theirs. That way the damnation of a hell on earth follows.
But sadly we had this.

Defense secretary Mattis says US policy against Isis is now ‘annihilation’
Retired general indicates aggressive turn in Iraq and Syria, saying ‘intention is that foreign fighters do not survive’ and ‘civilian casualties are a fact of life
theguardian.com

Dismissive of innocent life is not acceptable.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:27:49pm

re: #142 calochortus

Not in Afghanistan. But yeah, Trump doesn’t learn from anything, anywhere.

As aware as I am about the reputation of Afghanistan as a quagmire, my guess is the fantasy is much like the USSR’s vision of a blue-water Indian Ocean port: the assumption is the correct combination of captive central government and terror can power through.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:28:44pm

a bit of eclipse trivia:

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:29:10pm

re: #159 calochortus

Since I didn’t watch the speech, am I safe in assuming it was as horrible as one might expect? Said nothing? Marked his pivot to being presidential?

Threatened war with nuclear-armed Pakistan, wants to force them to negotiate by pandering to India’s nationalists, going to make Afghanistan pay for our “help,” says there will be no nation building, threatened NATO if they didn’t “pay up” or help us, insists the international community is behind this.

In other words he has absolutely no idea what he’s doing. I would make a better president simply because I would listen to my advisers, the military, Congress, the intelligence community (that is, all the people he’s pissed off).

About an average day I guess.

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calochortus  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:29:49pm

re: #164 The Ghost of a Flea

As aware as I am about the reputation of Afghanistan as a quagmire, my guess is the fantasy is much like the USSR’s vision of a blue-water Indian Ocean port: the assumption is the correct combination of captive central government and terror can power through.

A total fantasy on Trump’s part.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:32:21pm

Benny isn’t happy.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:33:11pm

re: #167 calochortus

Yeah, but my point is that it doesn’t matter if it’s feasible, it matters if the assumption of “paying” for the conflict incorporates this kind of neo-colonial concept, because that’s going to make the conflict even more fucked-up.

The direct point of comparison here is the Bremer Plan, which also was a total fantasy…but they still tried for it.

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:33:20pm

dailykos.com

Inspired by the Women’s March, a group of 6 women in Brunswick, Ga. banded together and decided to fight for the issues which have been under attack by the current administration. That small group of women, has now become 300 strong and grows daily. We are finding our voice in our sisterhood, and as our voice gets louder, I hope we can give a new meaning to the words “the south will rise again” where it will be followed by…”AND IT WILL BE WITH MY SISTERS AND ME STANDING ARM AND ARM AGAINST HATE, RACISM AND BIGOTRY.”

I know we will not use that phrase, but now, when I think of it or hear it, I think those words are just the beginning of a different sentence. One where my sisters are joined together to find solutions to the problems we face. Where we are growing stronger every week. Where we are Determined. Where we “Persist”, we “Resist” and we “Reclaim our Time” to move forward not backwards.

Read the rest. Worth it.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:34:01pm

re: #168 Dr. Matt

Benny isn’t happy.

[Embedded content]

And he didn’t even give a number.

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calochortus  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:34:07pm

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹

Thanks. Just what I expected. We don’t generally watch TV during dinner and certainly not a Trump speech. We eat, we talk, sometimes we just sit quietly with each other. No need to ruin our digestion with Trump.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:34:26pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:35:00pm

At least Obama had a long term ground event based goal set to get us out. The enemy held the upper hand long term given a careful approach. And a place to run, hide Osama himself and endless militants/enablers, rearm and re-fund in at will.

Now it’s more of a quagmire than ever.

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teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:35:13pm

Cancel your subscriptions to the New York Times.

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nowherenorth2  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:36:07pm

Didn’t watch the speech.
Wedding gift to draw. Daughter running around.
But I see that it went as we expected….

God trump is a fucking idiot and the pundits will fall in line.

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calochortus  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:36:08pm

re: #169 The Ghost of a Flea

Yeah, but my point is that it doesn’t matter if it’s feasible, it matters if the assumption of “paying” for the conflict incorporates this kind of neo-colonial concept, because that’s going to make the conflict even more fucked-up.

The direct point of comparison here is the Bremer Plan, which also was a total fantasy…but they still tried for it.

I’m hoping there are enough people around who can remember back a whole decade or so, so they won’t want to try it again.

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majii  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:36:36pm

I’m watching Lawrence O’Donnell and two guests discuss how a part of the beginning of Trump’s speech was an attempt at a do-over after he had expressed support for Nazis, KKK members, and other white supremacists. If this was Trump’s attempt at a walk-back, he could have saved his breath. I consider some things hard to move past, and a president’s open support for some of our citizens who want to kill others of us due to no fault of our own is one of those things. He had no idea that when he uttered those words of support for the evilest among us last Tuesday that it would constitute a damaging blow to his presidency. I didn’t like him before he showed his support for the aforementioned persons, and the only reason I won’t say I hate his guts is that my parents taught me to never say I hate another human being. He was on my sh*t list before last Tuesday, and he will always be on it.

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jaunte  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:36:43pm

re: #175 teleskiguy

A take of the finest, gossamer superficiality.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:36:50pm

re: #175 teleskiguy

Cancel your subscriptions to the New York Times.

[Embedded content]

Is Maggie Haberman the new Judith Miller?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:37:02pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:37:45pm

re: #175 teleskiguy

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jaunte  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:37:55pm

“In one of his more forceful/best lines of address” if you were born yesterday, or possibly in the last hour.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:39:13pm

re: #175 teleskiguy

Cancel your subscriptions to the New York Times.

[Embedded content]

Tomorrow’s rally will erase any thoughts of competence.

He is who we though he was.

She’ll bash him tomorrow night.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:39:19pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

We would win if the politicians got out of the way! is what the Kwantung Japanese Imperial Army said in Manchuria.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:39:20pm
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SteelPH  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:39:30pm

re: #173 Anymouse 🌹

Nonsense. Archie Bunker had redeeming qualities and the capacity to learn.
Trump does not.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:40:08pm
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Chrysicat  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:40:43pm

Ugh. My father just sent a letter to the NFL saying, in effect because he’d never actually use language like I’m about to, that until they get better control of their house n-words, he won’t watch another down. And then announced that to the family at dinner.

Though at least that’s better than making a list of their advertisers and boycotting all of those…

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:40:54pm

re: #173 Anymouse 🌹

Bannon on Trump: “Dude, he’s Archie Bunker.” President Archie Bunker

Which Archie Bunker?
By the end of ‘Archie Bunker’s Place’ Archie was practically ready to hold gay weddings in his bar

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:41:00pm

re: #168 Dr. Matt

Benny isn’t happy.

[Embedded content]

Biss on Penjy…

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makeitstop  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:41:25pm

re: #179 jaunte

A take of the finest, gossamer superficiality.

She will avoid losing White House access by any means necessary.

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teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:42:00pm

For fuck’s sake, that’s right. Fuckface Von Clownstick is staging another one of his Nuremberg rallies in Phoenix tomorrow where he announces the pardon of Joe Arpaio, complete with big screen, light show, and loud music.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:43:05pm

Well, I didn’t watch Orange Foolius but from you folks have posted I know the speech went like this!

“This Country’s Going to War”- Duck Soup sequence

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jaunte  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:43:20pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:44:43pm

Okay so you know that moment when you chance upon a piece of music that just makes your day? Maybe some lone meandering jam among masters of the art? Eight minutes meandering. IOW can’t believe I had missed this before.

Iframe

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:47:04pm

re: #186 Charles Johnson

Another aspect of Trump getting to where he is—this whole phenomenon of it being enough to “seem” like something, as though everything was a performance trying to get good ratings. Critiquing style without reference to the content.

Trump may be reality TV’s avatar, but there’s larger shallowness that forms his ecosystem.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:48:29pm

re: #196 Unshaken Defiance

Okay so you know that moment when you chance upon a piece of music that just makes your day? Maybe some lone meandering jam among masters of the art? Eight minutes meandering. IOW can’t believe I had missed this before.

[Embedded content]

I wasn’t a great Dead fan, but I saw Merl a couple of times and just loved his shows.

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:48:45pm

re: #193 teleskiguy

For fuck’s sake, that’s right. Fuckface Von Clownstick is staging another one of his Nuremberg rallies in Phoenix tomorrow where he announces the pardon of Joe Arpaio, complete with big screen, light show, and loud music.

Someone really ought to mention to Joe that he’s admitting guilt by accepting the pardon.

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jaunte  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:49:30pm

The Russians are messing with our Naval navigation systems.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:49:30pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:49:40pm

re: #199 Belafon

Someone really ought to mention to Joe that he’s admitting guilt by accepting the pardon.

That kind of thing does not matter to the shameless slime that Republicans have become.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:49:42pm

Jason Miller on CNN, as soon as I saw his face I for real yelled HOW ARE YOUR BABIES

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EPR-radar  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:51:39pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

tr*mp’s speech seems to have been a less coherent version of “kill people and blow shit up”.

What kind of idiot thinks that is presidential?

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:53:01pm

re: #200 jaunte

Well something is up. But I’m wary of the “must be the Russians” thing. Evidence needed. US and Russian forces have screwed with GPS on purpose. We are nice enough to announce in advance.

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Chrysicat  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:53:13pm

re: #202 EPR-radar

Nope. Just that he’ll be eligible to be SecHomSec.

And I’ll bet his appointment will be announced tomorrow too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:53:15pm

jeebus

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calochortus  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:55:06pm

re: #204 EPR-radar

tr*mp’s speech seems to have been a less coherent version of “kill people and blow shit up”.

What kind of idiot thinks that is presidential?

Apparently a Maggie Haberman kind of idiot.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:55:09pm

*blink*

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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:55:42pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:55:57pm

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

No foreign power has ever had a strategy in Afghanistan other than “postponing defeat”.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:56:24pm

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

[Embedded content]

They fall in line.

If it keeps the status quo without nukes? Maybe they’re taking the safe road.

GAH

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:57:13pm
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freetoken  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:57:53pm

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bomb-bomb-bomb Iran Afghanistan.

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teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:57:56pm

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

*blink*

Giphy

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TedStriker  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:57:57pm

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

[Embedded content]

Well, that didn’t take long.

Ol’ Johnny Walnuts seems to be back on the Trump Train, at least as far as continued warmongering is concerned.

Gahhhhhhh…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:58:31pm
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Kragar  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:59:11pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 21, 2017 • 7:59:25pm

re: #216 TedStriker

Well, that didn’t take long.

Ol’ Johnny Walnuts seems to be back on the Trump Train, at least as far as continued warmongering is concerned.

Gahhhhhhh…

No persuasion required for something like this. McCain is one of the most reliable war-mongerers in the entire Republicans party.

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Kragar  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:00:27pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:00:28pm

“They say the definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over, expecting different results. We’ve been doing that in Afghanistan for 16 years. Now that I’m President, all that will change! We’ll do the same thing again, but THIS TIME, the results WILL be different!!”

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dangerman  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:00:41pm

re: #193 teleskiguy

For fuck’s sake, that’s right. Fuckface Von Clownstick is staging another one of his Nuremberg rallies in Phoenix tomorrow where he announces the pardon of Joe Arpaio, complete with big screen, light show, and loud music.

Man hasn’t been sentenced yet
He’s jumping over hundreds who are in line going through the system patiently

Oh wait what does that sound like?

223
EPR-radar  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:00:43pm

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

It is now news when a Republican Senate Majority leader concedes that reality exists and that the media more or less reports on that reality.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:03:10pm
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TedStriker  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:03:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:04:04pm
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BeachDem  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:04:05pm

re: #132 Stanley Sea

So predictable #complicit

[Embedded content]

I didn’t watch it—just could not do it. But could have predicted this tweet before he opened his mouth.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:04:43pm

Twitter is now filled with people saying that being was a tactical choice that you don’t tell the enemy what’s coming.

Which is smart-stupid…because ideally you don’t fucking tell your opponent that you’re changing strategies, period.

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jaunte  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:05:29pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:06:04pm

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Oh, no! He didn’t say the words! It’ll be like Army of Darkness, when Ash forgets the last word of Klaatu Verata Nikto.

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jaunte  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:06:22pm

Lindsey Graham celebrating the Triumph of the Will.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:07:27pm

A friend who works as a meteorologist at Offutt AFB in Omaha sent me a satellite photo of what the eclipse looked like when we were in the dark and he wasn’t.

Sattelite of 2017 Eclipse over Nebraska
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dangerman  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:07:29pm

re: #230 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, no! He didn’t say the words! It’ll be like Army of Darkness, when Ash forgets the last word of Klaatu Verata Nikto.

The day the earth stood still
(Sorry)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:10:08pm

re: #233 dangerman

The day the earth stood still
(Sorry)

That was Klaatu BARADA Nikto.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:10:11pm

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

Syria? The only change in Syria is we’re bombing with even less discernment. I’m holding to my stance that what’s coming is more leeway to cause harm, and a broader definition of “combatant.”

I fucking hate these people. They love the idea of war because of the tropes about WW2 they’ve ingested…and over and over again they don’t actually plan, or value their troops, or think about civilians in-country are variable when you’re occupying their land, or think about what the end-point is.

And when all the above fails—inevitably—it’s always someone else that fucked up. Snowball did it.

236
electrotek  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:10:27pm

So what did I miss? I was out watching In This Corner of the World instead.

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Kragar  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:11:21pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:11:27pm

Because he’s the emperor with no clothes!

It’ll take us 4 years or a fucking nuke to see this

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jaunte  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:12:09pm

There’s the party line.

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dangerman  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:14:44pm

re: #234 Blind Frog Belly White

That was Klaatu BARADA Nikto.

What there’s two?

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BeachDem  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:18:15pm

re: #184 Stanley Sea

Tomorrow’s rally will erase any thoughts of competence.

He is who we though he was.

She’ll bash him tomorrow night.

And then on Wednesday, she’ll have some inside scoop from Javanka.

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dangerman  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:18:24pm

re: #240 dangerman

What there’s two?

Of course
I answer my own question
There was no one named ash….

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Chrysicat  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:18:33pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:20:16pm

re: #232 Anymouse 🌹

Pretty sweet y’all lucked out with clear skies!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:21:01pm

re: #240 dangerman

What there’s two?

Oh, my, yes!

There’s The Day The Earth Stood Still…

YouTube

And then there’s Army of Darkness where Ash has to say the words to safely remove the Necronomicon. It doesn’t go exactly according to plan….

YouTube

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BeachDem  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:22:13pm

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

[Embedded content]

Meet the new John McCain, same as the old John McCain.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:25:05pm

re: #241 BeachDem

And then on Wednesday, she’ll have some inside scoop from Javanka.

Her source was Bannon. She’s freaking out.

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teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:25:07pm

*blink*

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:26:15pm

re: #248 teleskiguy

*blink*

[Embedded content]

Seamlessly changing places.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:26:33pm

re: #208 calochortus

Apparently a Maggie Haberman kind of idiot.

Someone ought to ask her if she is trying out for a Judith Miller part in a really really off-Broadway play.

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dangerman  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:27:54pm

re: #245 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, my, yes!

There’s The Day The Earth Stood Still…

[Embedded content]

Oy and there’s three of those
I got some homework to do

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BeachDem  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:28:45pm

re: #247 Stanley Sea

Her source was Bannon. She’s freaking out.

She’ll kiss some ass, bash Hillary and all will be well inside the beltway. I have to laugh at how huffy she gets when anyone calls her on her shit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:30:03pm

re: #251 dangerman

Oy and there’s three of those
I got some homework to do

Army of Darkness stands pretty well on its own.

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dangerman  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:31:10pm

re: #253 Blind Frog Belly White

Army of Darkness stands pretty well on its own.

I’ll check into it tomorrow
This day is toast

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:33:35pm

re: #244 teleskiguy

Pretty sweet y’all lucked out with clear skies!

We were concerned because of a weather report yesterday saying a chance of thunderstorms during the eclipse.

We had thunderstorms just after dawn, and the sky was completely clear by eclipse time.

I got some crappy photos, and some really good ones. Amazed what I could do with a little Polaroid digital camera with eclipse glasses over the lenses. (Should have used my film Polaroid, but harder to post those photos.)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 21, 2017 • 8:46:02pm

re: #254 dangerman

I’ll check into it tomorrow
This day is toast

Toast, you say?

YouTube

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 21, 2017 • 9:00:48pm

re: #248 teleskiguy

*blink*

[Embedded content]

I just agreed with that harpy.

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SpikeDad  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:09:44am

Funny but this reminds me of another revenge action by a president. Bush the Stupid attacking Iraq because they made fun of Bush the Old and Trump the Liar attacking Afghanistan because Russia got their ass handed to them so Putin took his puppet to wipe them out.


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