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KGxvi  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:44:47pm

CNN has a story up saying Cantwell has surrendered to police in Virginia. Two counts of illegal use of tear gas and one count of malicious bodily injury with a caustic substance. I wonder if he’ll cry at his sentencing like he did on the YouTube video? And if how he will handle life not being able to carry three guns at all times, being a convicted felon and all

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teleskiguy  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:57:49pm

Josh Homme is such a dirty sexy rock star.

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Kragar  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:59:25pm

Brother got me the book I had been putting off getting, so it looks like my Night Lords are back in action.

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teleskiguy  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:21:25pm

Red Rocks does that to artists. Every time. The place is wholly unique.

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retired cynic  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:23:09pm

re: #4 teleskiguy

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Red Rocks does that to artists. Every time. The place is wholly unique.

It looks like it would have the feel of one of those old Greek theaters, that stretch up a hillside.

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teleskiguy  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:26:50pm

Our humble host has played guitar in front of a crowd at Red Rocks.

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retired cynic  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:27:28pm

re: #6 teleskiguy

Our humble host has played guitar in front of a crowd at Red Rocks.

I know! Bended knee!

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teleskiguy  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:33:28pm

Speaking of the QOTSA video above, I’ve been listening to Josh Homme’s shit since I was 14 years old. I still have some Maxwell cassette tapes with Desert Sessions on them that I got from a friend who turned me on to ‘stoner metal.’ I bought my first Kyuss record when I was 16 (…And The Circus Leaves Town) and I have all of QOTSA’s albums.

Them Crooked Vultures. Now that shit is otherworldly. A true once-in-a-lifetime kind of recording.

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teleskiguy  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:57:11pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 23, 2017 • 11:20:46pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 23, 2017 • 11:23:27pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 23, 2017 • 11:24:47pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 23, 2017 • 11:26:31pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 23, 2017 • 11:37:59pm

One more.

Guitar/Lead Vocals: Josh Homme
Bass: John Paul Jones
Drums: Dave Grohl

Warsaw Or The First Breath You Take After You Give Up

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Amory Blaine  Aug 24, 2017 • 12:48:53am

I’d take the annuity, then call JG Wentworth just to see what they’re offering.

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boredtechindenver  Aug 24, 2017 • 1:05:32am

1 winning ticket in Mass.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 24, 2017 • 2:24:04am

For the first time ever, a Freeper has posted a long rant that is very, very close to correct and valuable. It elaborates several postings by Lizards. If we add a few, the list would be canonical :

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bernie Sanders voters not showing up elected Trump.
A bunch of black swans converging on Hillary in the final 12 days of the election elected Trump.
Wikileaks elected Trump.
Twitter memes elected Trump.
Astrological influences elected Trump.
Blatant sexism and unconscious sexism elected Trump.
People voting against Hillary because Obama is black elected Trump.
Traditionalist attitudes toward women elected Trump.
White voters afraid of losing White Privilege elected Trump.
Democrats doing a poor job of controlling the narrative elected Trump.
A thousand Russian agents working every day elected Trump.
Content farms in Macedonia elected Trump.
The TV networks keeping Hillary off the air elected Trump.
The vast right-wing conspiracy elected Trump.
Infowars elected Trump.
Google elected Trump.
Governor Scott Walker elected Trump.
Steve Bannon elected Trump.
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker elected Trump.
Nate Silver elected Trump.
Citizens United elected Trump.
The DNC being a mess and in poor shape elected Trump.
Bad polling numbers elected Trump.
Obama winning two terms elected Trump.
People wanting change elected Trump.
The New York Times, cable news, and television executives elected Trump.
According to Hillary, “Eight of the top 10 political documentaries on Netflix were screeds against President Obama and me” - Netflix elected Trump.
Democrats not making the right documentaries elected Trump.
The Democrat Party and the Republican Party elected Trump.
Concerns that Hillary Clinton was involved with a child sex trafficking operation elected Trump.
Concern about Hillary Clinton being a lizard elected Trump.
High expectations that Hillary would win elected Trump.
Voter suppression elected Trump.
FBI Director Comey announcing a criminal investigation into Hillary’s felonies just over a week before the election, when he had little reason to think there was anything there, elected Trump.
The Russians ransacking Hillary’s computer files and strategically leaking the truth elected Trump.
Misogyny elected Trump.
Gary Johnson and Jill Stein voters elected Trump.
Advocacy press on the right elected Trump.
Facebook elected Trump.
Old, out-of-touch democrats with a flawed message that alienated young voters elected Trump.
White nationalists elected Trump.
Hatred of Hillary Clinton at the FBI (how could anyone hate a lovable woman like Hillary?) elected Trump.
FBI investigation elected Trump.
Email scandal elected Trump.
Black voters not liking Hillary elected Trump.
Fewer than 100,000 deplorable voters spread across a handful of states elected Trump.
People hating Hillary because she is so professional, so polished, such a wonderful lawyer, so brilliant, so good, so righteous, and so much better than us elected Trump.
The lack of energy among Hillary supporters and expectations of Hillary being the inevitable winner, because it was her turn, elected Trump.
Robby Mook selecting the wrong travel stops for Hillary and spending heavily in the wrong states elected Trump.
Hillary’s campaign team failing to hone her message and get voters to the polls elected Trump.
Bill Clinton’s appearance of an inappropriate meeting with Attorney General Loretta Lynch elected Trump.
The ugly stew of racism elected Trump.
Hillary’s alleged lack of likability and claimed lack of trustworthiness elected Trump.
Self-hating women elected Trump.
Evangelical, Catholic, anti-marriage equality, and anti-choice social conservatives elected Trump.
Sinister outside forces elected Trump.
Whitelash elected Trump.
Democrat policies that favor the rich elected Trump.
Failure to talk to working-class white voters elected Trump.
Men elected Trump.
Lower-level FBI agents pressuring their Director (because that’s how professional relationships work) elected Trump.
Tim Kaine gave Hillary Virginia, but he also elected Trump.
White women elected Trump.
Racists elected Trump.
Sexists elected Trump.
Rural voters elected Trump.
The working class voting against their own interests elected Trump.
Fake news elected Trump.
Supermarket tabloids elected Trump.
Celebrity (The Apprentice) elected Trump.
White male resentment elected Trump.
Over-shaming Trump supporters elected Trump.
Rejecting Bernie elected Trump.
Reagan democrats elected Trump.
Backlash against political correctness elected Trump.


There are many terrible reasons for President Trump’s victory, but there are two things that were not a factor. First, Hillary was the perfect candidate; nothing she did harmed her candidacy in any way. Second, President Trump was the worst candidate imaginable; nothing he did helped his candidacy at all, except with racists, sexists, bigots, and the rest of the basket of deplorables.

6 posted on 8/24/2017, 4:02:28 AM by Pollster1 (“Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed”)
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2017 • 2:36:47am

re: #17 Decatur Deb

Gerrymandering, voter suppression and the Electoral College elected Trump

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Decatur Deb  Aug 24, 2017 • 2:46:36am

re: #18 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Gerrymandering, voter suppression and the Electoral College elected Trump

Reality Television elected Trump.
Anthony Weiner elected Trump.
7.25 Minimum Wage elected Trump.
Right to Work laws elected Trump.
Piss Christ elected Trump.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Aug 24, 2017 • 3:06:25am

Checking in again from Brookings, OR and our fire situation here. Temps were lower than predicted today with it reaching 56 here on the coast and the mid-70’s inland near the fire. The marine layer (heavy fog) on the coast remained in place all day, lifting a bit in the late afternoon to about 200 feet. Winds were calm, humidity was maxed out here and much better inland. Fire growth was held to just under 2,000 acres with 99,944 acres (a bit over 150 square miles) consumed by the fire. Weather is expected to hold through Thursday and the Chetco Effect (strong NE wind-hotter temps) has been called off for Friday. It’s interesting that the NWS forecasts the marine layer lifting and Friday to be sunny, 71 and mild N/NW winds. Saturday is forecast to be sunny, 78 with no wind forecast and daily temps drop back to the 60’s for the next couple of days afterward.

One thing to note is that the forecasting of our weather is quite the joke around here. For example, we were supposed to be in the upper 60’s during the day for the last five days and we didn’t break 60 once. In good weather, just about every night is forecast as windy and it isn’t. While it may be windy up to about 8 PM at night it is almost always dead calm until sunrise. As far as Friday being 71 and Saturday being 78, I’ll believe it when I see it. It could happen but sunny and calm wind during the summer here is a rarity. Usually we need a good offshore wind to push the marine layer away for us to heat up enough to get that hot. If the wind is from the north or south, it may get sunny but it don’t get very hot as the breeze off of the ocean/coast is much cooler than that inland. A west wind pushing the marine layer inland would be really odd.

Since the forecasting of our weather leaves a bit to be desired, I use the GOES Rainbow Loop for the Eastern Pacific (and Western US) to track winds and ground temps. I also use the mosaic that the NWS puts together of the enhanced radar image loop to track storms. It even picked up the ash from our fire during day two of the Chetco Effect, which is pretty cool. Just using these links (and years of watching and learning) I am able to predict our winter weather better than the NWS can. Summer is a bit more difficult as our weather is strongly influenced by what is going on inland. If Medford and Grants Pass are roasting, we’re usually buried in fog all day. Grants Pass is forecast to be ramping up to 101 on Sunday, so I am hoping the usual holds true and I am right (and the NWS is wrong) that this weekend will be cooler. Hopefully foggy! :)

There is a bit of history to this fire that I will I am curious about and I am going to write Sen. Wyden and Congressman DeFazio and ask for their opinions. The Chetco Bar Fire is burning in the area of the 2002 Biscuit Fire, which was created when the Florence and Sour Biscuit Fires met up. This fire ended up consuming 500,000 acres, including most of the Kalmiopsis Wilderness that is now again on fire. The Bush Administration pushed to have the burned land logged for salvage timber, claiming that it would make the forest safer and that it would recover faster. Of course communities like ours (sawmill/lumberyards) were more than happy as it created some work for some people. Good, right?

Maybe not. In 2006 a study by forestry students was published that contradicted the Bush Administration/Forest Service claims regarding forest recovery that in itself caused some controversy. The short story is that the study found that the burned out areas that were too difficult to log and were left alone recovered quicker than the areas that the logging operations worked over for salvage. Not only that but the untouched areas were left with minimal fuels for starting another fire and the logged out areas were full of slash and waste that was left behind to dry and sit, waiting for the opportune time to become fuel for a forest fire. Some people here are going to shit when I point this out to them…lol! I’m already anticipating the denials.

My questions to my guys in government are:

“Did the 2017 Chetco Bar Fire start in an area that had been logged after the 2002 Biscuit Fire?”

“Is the Forest Service going to push to log this area again, once again leaving fuel behind for the next fire?”

I have a few more but I’ll write them up and post them once I write Wyden and DeFazio.

Enough for now… today was a calm, quiet day and we needed it. I went and tossed $50 bucks to the community free coffee card for the firefighters and waved to lots of welcome people. Our cats finally got some outside time and they had some needed fun for a few hours. I’ll leave you with the pic from the first day of the Chetco Effect and resulting fire flareup:

A freaky Trump-colored day…
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Decatur Deb  Aug 24, 2017 • 3:20:31am

Brain-dead DNC/OFA policy priorities elected Trump.

Off to get a new lens—the eye surgeon is an early riser. BBIn a Couple Days.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2017 • 4:12:06am

re: #19 Decatur Deb

Reality Television elected Trump.
Anthony Weiner elected Trump.
7.25 Minimum Wage elected Trump.
Right to Work laws elected Trump.
Piss Christ elected Trump.

Cuts to basic education elected Trump.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 24, 2017 • 5:20:42am

Greg Abbott is currently running unopposed for Gov. of Texas. Clay Jenkins is a County Judge in Dallas. I would support him for the following reason. He seems to have a sense of ethics (sad I even have to write that). He always steps up and does the right thing. I would call him a Conservative Texas Democrat, but not in a bad sense. And I feel he can be trusted.

Blah…..

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 24, 2017 • 5:22:41am

I tried to post a comment to RWC’s molten metal post, but comments are closed. So:

You said that you singed hairs getting that close up at 2000°F. I have been face first in a glass kiln at 1600°F with mitts and a face mask and apron, and that was hot as hell — as in smoking gloves after 30 secs. While the kiln that is showing is a tiny one, it is still cranking out a lot of heat to be in so close to get a photo with no mitts on.

Very nice

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 24, 2017 • 5:25:27am

re: #6 teleskiguy

Our humble host has played guitar in front of a crowd at Red Rocks.

With being broke and old and demented, that is quite the feat.
///ad infinitum

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 24, 2017 • 5:30:38am

re: #23 Dave In Austin

Greg Abbott is currently running unopposed for Gov. of Texas. Clay Akins is a County Judge in Dallas. I would support him for the following reason. He seems to have a sense of ethics (sad I even have to write that). He always steps up and does the right thing. I would call him a Conservative Texas Democrat, but not in a bad sense. And I feel he can be trusted.

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Democrats need to have a Gubernatorial candidate to run against Abbott. Give Democrats and left leaning Independents someone to vote for apart from the odious Abbott.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 24, 2017 • 5:36:52am

re: #26 Patricia Kayden

Democrats need to have a Gubernatorial candidate to run against Abbott. Give Democrats and left leaning Independents someone to vote for apart from the odious Abbott.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2017 • 5:40:24am

From Anne Laurie at Balloon Juice:

(Why would a proud leftier-than-thou Independent have such sympathy for the sufferings of a rich man’s wife at the hands of the media, just because she might’ve gotten a little… overambitious on the wings of her husband’s success? Maybe he’s just that generous a soul!)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 24, 2017 • 5:43:32am

re: #28 Belafon

From Anne Laurie at Balloon Juice:

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You can count on the Hillary Haters at the New York Times to give Ms. Mnuchin pass after pass…

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Jay C  Aug 24, 2017 • 5:46:18am

re: #23 Dave In Austin

Greg Abbott is currently running unopposed for Gov. of Texas. Clay Jenkins is a County Judge in Dallas. I would support him for the following reason. He seems to have a sense of ethics (sad I even have to write that). He always steps up and does the right thing. I would call him a Conservative Texas Democrat, but not in a bad sense. And I feel he can be trusted.

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Blah…..

SRSLY? Do you mean Abbott is “running unopposed” on the Republican ticket, or that he has no Democratic candidate running against him?

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2017 • 5:47:42am

re: #28 Belafon

From Anne Laurie at Balloon Juice:

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I guess the idea of a wife abusing her husband’s political status to enrich herself hit a little too close to home for him…

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ObserverArt  Aug 24, 2017 • 5:48:35am

re: #18 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Gerrymandering, voter suppression and the Electoral College elected Trump

Too many Americans voted for Trump. I think it says a lot about this country. None of it good.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 5:53:04am

re: #32 ObserverArt

Too many Americans voted for Trump. I think it says a lot about this country. None of it good.

That he won a single GOP primary I think says a lot.

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2017 • 5:55:53am

I notice these days that Bernie is spending more time attacking the DNC and promoting himself than he is talking about the issues that are supposedly in his wheelhouse or opposing the current administration that stands for everything he’s supposedly against.

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lizardofid  Aug 24, 2017 • 5:56:17am

re: #23 Dave In Austin

Greg Abbott is currently running unopposed for Gov. of Texas. Clay Jenkins is a County Judge in Dallas. I would support him for the following reason. He seems to have a sense of ethics (sad I even have to write that). He always steps up and does the right thing. I would call him a Conservative Texas Democrat, but not in a bad sense. And I feel he can be trusted.

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Blah…..

100% agree about Clay Jenkins’ “sense of ethics”. His positions AND actions in the handling of immigrants, as well as when we had the ebola cases up here, indicates he’s a man that lives his faith.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 24, 2017 • 5:56:30am

re: #30 Jay C

SRSLY? Do you mean Abbott is “running unopposed” on the Republican ticket, or that he has no Democratic candidate running against him?

Yes….. Sad.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2017 • 5:57:11am

re: #36 Dave In Austin

Yes….. Sad.

So basically, the Democratic Party has written off Texas?

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Sir John Barron  Aug 24, 2017 • 5:57:39am

re: #36 Dave In Austin

Yes….. Sad.

Not a shining moment for the party.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 24, 2017 • 5:58:53am

re: #36 Dave In Austin

Yes….. Sad.

The election is next year I assume so someone could still make a run. Although it would probably help to start a campaign so you can fundraise.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 5:59:00am

re: #28 Belafon

From Anne Laurie at Balloon Juice:

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I seriously do not get Bernie sometimes. One of the other commentators on BJ made a good point about how the NYT WWC pieces hit on Clinton for being an elitist but ignore the elitism of people like Linton within the Trump administration.

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2017 • 5:59:45am

re: #39 Sir John Barron

The election is next year I assume so someone could still make a run. Although it would probably help to start a campaign so you can fundraise.

True, there’s still plenty of time for someone to jump in. But the longer they wait, the worse off they’re going to be when they finally throw their hat in.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:00:03am

re: #35 lizardofid

100% agree about Clay Jenkins’ “sense of ethics”. His positions AND actions in the handling of immigrants, as well as when we had the ebola cases up here, indicates he’s a man that lives his faith.

He up for re-election in 18’ with no other ambition than the judgeship again. He’s better than that. And I have told him so.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:00:07am

re: #38 Sir John Barron

Not a shining moment for the party.

Frustrating since O’Rourke’s Senate campaign against Cruz has promise.

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Woods Witch  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:00:07am

re: #17 Decatur Deb

TV news’ non-stop coverage (amounting to millions in free advertising) gave the election to Trump

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jeffreyw  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:01:17am

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Good morning!

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:01:22am

re: #40 HappyWarrior

I seriously do not get Bernie sometimes. One of the other commentators on BJ made a good point about how the NYT WWC pieces hit on Clinton for being an elitist but ignore the elitism of people like Linton within the Trump administration.

The same writers who warned that a Clinton administration would mean all sorts of bankers and execs would be in the Cabinet suddenly went quiet the moment Cheeto Benito started picking his buddies from Wall St to work for him.

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lizardofid  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:03:01am

re: #42 Dave In Austin

He up for re-election in 18’ with no other ambition than the judgeship again. He’s better than that. And I have told him so.

Dave, what do you think of Mayor Mike Rawlings?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:03:08am

re: #46 Targetpractice

The same writers who warned that a Clinton administration would mean all sorts of bankers and execs would be in the Cabinet suddenly went quiet the moment Cheeto Benito started picking his buddies from Wall St to work for him.

Yep. And they never ask Trump voters about this either. And TBH I think if Sanders had been elected, he would have had some Wall Street people too. Not as much as Trump or Clinton but I think he would have had them.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:03:19am

HAHAHAHAHA

Chris McNeil, AKA @Reflog_18, has trolled accounts like the (now-suspended) Tenn GOP and Breitbart for awhile, so it’s definitely another feather in his cap.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:05:08am

re: #49 Myron Falwell

HAHAHAHAHA

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They’re so goddamn gullible.

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:05:58am

re: #48 HappyWarrior

Yep. And they never ask Trump voters about this either. And TBH I think if Sanders had been elected, he would have had some Wall Street people too. Not as much as Trump or Clinton but I think he would have had them.

Oh, Bernie would have had bring in Wall St. or Congress into his administration, as I’m not too sure many of the dream secretaries that his fans talked about would have been willing to put “Part of disastrous Sanders administration” on their resumes.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:07:01am

re: #49 Myron Falwell

Since they’re not anchored to anything other than the belief they know the “truth”, of course they are the easiest ones to con.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:09:19am

re: #51 Targetpractice

Oh, Bernie would have had bring in Wall St. or Congress into his administration, as I’m not too sure many of the dream secretaries that his fans talked about would have been willing to put “Part of disastrous Sanders administration” on their resumes.

He would have. I said it last spring but I wasn’t sold that Sanders would make a good president and if they were having a time convincing me, a rock solid lefty of that, how the hell were they going to do that with the rest of the country? But yeah he would have had to.

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:10:43am

re: #52 Belafon

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Since they’re not anchored to anything other than the belief they know the “truth”, of course they are the easiest ones to con.

When you’re part of something unpopular, you’re susceptible to the idea that you’re secretly part of a larger crowd. Cults love to pull this shit all the time, convincing marks that they’re really joining part of a larger movement when it could simply be a small group of nuts sitting around in their basement.

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:12:44am

re: #53 HappyWarrior

Reality always has it’s way with new Presidents. How they respond is the thing. Obama reacted like water meets rock. Some say too easily. Did not fight sometimes where he should have. For Trump well he dug in his heels, maintains denial of reality and it’s killing the admin. Reality is bigger than any alleged billionaire/POTUS.

A personality like that will break like glass.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:17:19am

re: #47 lizardofid

Dave, what do you think of Mayor Mike Rawlings?

Don’t know anything about him.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:17:59am

re: #55 Unshaken Defiance

Reality always has it’s way with new Presidents. How they respond is the thing. Obama reacted like water meets rock. Some say too easily. Did not fight sometimes where he should have. For Trump well he dug in his heels, maintains denial of reality and it’s killing the admin. Reality is bigger than any alleged billionaire/POTUS.

A personality like that will break like glass.

It’s why I look at the individual when I look at Presidential aspirants. It takes a special person to be President.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:20:46am

re: #52 Belafon

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Since they’re not anchored to anything other than the belief they know the “truth”, of course they are the easiest ones to con.

They don’t even bother to check who sent out the tweet… that the Twitter handle is “golfer” spelled backwards, or that his avatar is Rupesh “Cigar Guy” Shingadia. Just that Chris McNeil has the “verified” badge, I guess.

(Full disclosure: I’m also Facebook friends with Chris McNeil. The guy really does have a heart of gold.)

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:20:57am

So far, outside of Trumps’ rallies, most of the pro-Trump events in recent months have seen turnout in the teens or low hundreds. And even most of the news reports about Tuesday night show a crowd that was outnumbered by the opposition, that quickly got bored of the same election-style rhetoric, and started thinning out within half an hour of the rally’s start. So to those who didn’t attend, being shown this picture of thousands or tens of thousands of supporters showing up serves as a reassurance that they’re not part of a rapidly dwindling minority.

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ObserverArt  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:22:17am

re: #34 Targetpractice

I notice these days that Bernie is spending more time attacking the DNC and promoting himself than he is talking about the issues that are supposedly in his wheelhouse or opposing the current administration that stands for everything he’s supposedly against.

When you get down to it, Bernie may be no different than Trump. He is still bitching how he was treated and he gets the support of his base.

Feed the ego. Send money.

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darthstar  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:24:53am
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:27:51am

re: #61 darthstar

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“I don’t ‘tweet storm’,” he said.

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lawhawk  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:30:09am

Greets and saluts from the resistance in the NYC metro area. It’s a gorgeous day with perfect temps and humidity. This is one of those days where I wish I could get outside all day but alas that’s not to be.

So, Trump’s pushing for his pardon of Arpaio, and John Schindler thinks that this has some analog to Obama commuting the sentence of Chelsea Manning. Yeah, about that.

These aren’t analogous situations. Trump’s readying a pardon before Arpaio has even served a day in prison (let alone sentenced). Obama commuted (aka shortened) the sentence for Manning who had already served 7 years in prison.

There’s no comparison here. The Obama base didn’t demand a commutation of sentence. Trump’s base would love it if Arpaio is pardoned, because that’s another signal that Trump’s giving the white supremacists and bigots in his core support the green light to continue their bigotry, racism, discrimination, and violence against minorities.

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:32:29am

I’m old enough to remember when pundits would call Obama an “egomaniac” and spend time writing down the number of times he said “I” or “me.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:34:14am

re: #64 Targetpractice

I’m old enough to remember when pundits would call Obama an “egomaniac” and spend time writing down the number of times he said “I” or “me.”

No kidding.

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ObserverArt  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:34:24am

re: #63 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the resistance in the NYC metro area. It’s a gorgeous day with perfect temps and humidity. This is one of those days where I wish I could get outside all day but alas that’s not to be.

So, Trump’s pushing for his pardon of Arpaio, and John Schindler thinks that this has some analog to Obama commuting the sentence of Chelsea Manning. Yeah, about that.

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These aren’t analogous situations. Trump’s readying a pardon before Arpaio has even served a day in prison (let alone sentenced). Obama commuted (aka shortened) the sentence for Manning who had already served 7 years in prison.

There’s no comparison here. The Obama base didn’t demand a commutation of sentence. Trump’s base would love it if Arpaio is pardoned, because that’s another signal that Trump’s giving the white supremacists and bigots in his core support the green light to continue their bigotry, racism, discrimination, and violence against minorities.

Schindler is right about one thing and he is doing it too…pandering.

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meteor  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:39:10am

re: #34 Targetpractice

You don’t say.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:40:07am

So, this fella, Joe Bowen, absolutely nailed Boston’s “Foreplay” on a Lowrey organ.

Joe Bowen plays Foreplay by Boston on the Lowrey Organ

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:41:01am

re: #63 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the resistance in the NYC metro area. It’s a gorgeous day with perfect temps and humidity. This is one of those days where I wish I could get outside all day but alas that’s not to be.

So, Trump’s pushing for his pardon of Arpaio, and John Schindler thinks that this has some analog to Obama commuting the sentence of Chelsea Manning. Yeah, about that.

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These aren’t analogous situations. Trump’s readying a pardon before Arpaio has even served a day in prison (let alone sentenced). Obama commuted (aka shortened) the sentence for Manning who had already served 7 years in prison.

There’s no comparison here. The Obama base didn’t demand a commutation of sentence. Trump’s base would love it if Arpaio is pardoned, because that’s another signal that Trump’s giving the white supremacists and bigots in his core support the green light to continue their bigotry, racism, discrimination, and violence against minorities.

Difference between a pardon and commuting and as you say the Dem base didn’t demand that for Manning.

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:43:32am

re: #45 jeffreyw
Nice shot.
Our feeder is extra busy this morning. And several unfamiliar birds contesting with the usual “boss” hummingbird. I think the new guys are migratory, heading south. Had the feeder for years.

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sagehen  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:48:58am

Andra Day does “Strange Fruit” on The Daily Show

cc.com

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lawhawk  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:51:03am

Kelly is trying to get Trump’s incompetent cabal of cronies to conform to the standard that prior administrations used to control flow of info to the president to create coherent messaging.

With any other president, this would be unremarkable, but Trump’s a fucking toddler with a nuclear button. He’s incapable of discipline and message control as we’ve seen in just this past week (but was evident from the moment he threw his hat in the ring to run for office). He has no self control or discipline and his staffers are incompetent and incapable of doing basic policy work because that’s not why they were hired in the first place.

Trump values loyalty over all else, and he wants only to hear things that confirm his worldview. Anything that disputes Trump’s views are treated as lies or worse.

That’s no way to run any political office, let alone the White House.

It’s dangerous and it undermines US national security as well (but y’all knew that).

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:53:54am

re: #72 lawhawk

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Kelly is trying to get Trump’s incompetent cabal of cronies to conform to the standard that prior administrations used to control flow of info to the president to create coherent messaging.

With any other president, this would be unremarkable, but Trump’s a fucking toddler with a nuclear button. He’s incapable of discipline and message control as we’ve seen in just this past week (but was evident from the moment he threw his hat in the ring to run for office). He has no self control or discipline and his staffers are incompetent and incapable of doing basic policy work because that’s not why they were hired in the first place.

Trump values loyalty over all else, and he wants only to hear things that confirm his worldview. Anything that disputes Trump’s views are treated as lies or worse.

That’s no way to run any political office, let alone the White House.

It’s dangerous and it undermines US national security as well (but y’all knew that).

This isn’t how a democratic leader should operate. This is however how autocrats operate.

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ObserverArt  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:55:51am

re: #49 Myron Falwell

HAHAHAHAHA

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So, this guy is from Columbus. Cool.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2017 • 6:59:58am

re: #63 lawhawk

And didn’t Obama just commute Manning’s sentence?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:00:28am

re: #75 Belafon

And didn’t Obama just commute Manning’s sentence?

Yes. It wasn’t a pardon.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:05:21am

re: #32 ObserverArt

Too many Americans voted for Trump in MI, WI, OH and PA. I think it says a lot about this country. None of it good.

Small pluralities in those four states put him over.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:07:51am

re: #49 Myron Falwell

HAHAHAHAHA

[Embedded content]Yes, there are thousands of people in the viral image. Unfortunately for far-right Twitter, they’re sports fans, not Trumpkins.

well we didnt mean *literally* this picture.
it’s just a metaphor, a representation for the crowds that were really there

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Jay C  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:09:00am

re: #72 lawhawk

So what I’m wondering is: does “bad information” come out to equal “bad news”? Because if it does (IMO, very possibly wrong) , it sounds like Gen. Kelly is merely enabling, rather than counteracting one of The Orange Idiot’s many failings in office: i.e. only wanting to hear “good news”, only wanting to hear personal praise, and ignoring/dismissing anything that doesn’t fit either of those categories.

And yeah: the Maginot Line worked just fine: til the Germans decided to go around, rather than through it….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:09:31am

re: #78 dangerman

well we didnt mean *literally* this picture.
it’s just a metaphor, a representation for the crowds that were really there

In the end, we are dealing with Higher Truths. These exist independent of facts.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:10:43am

re: #79 Jay C

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So what I’m wondering is: does “bad information” come out to equal “bad news”? Because if it does (IMO, very possibly wrong) , it sounds like Gen. Kelly is merely enabling, rather than counteracting one of The Orange Idiot’s many failings in office: i.e. only wanting to hear “good news”, only wanting to hear personal praise, and ignoring/dismissing anything that doesn’t fit either of those categories.

And yeah: the Maginot Line worked just fine: til the Germans decided to go around, rather than through it….

Eventually it will get to Trump and he will explode. We have a President who wants to rule and be treated like a despot.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:10:51am

re: #60 ObserverArt

When you get down to it, Bernie may be no different than Trump. He is still bitching how he was treated and he gets the support of his base.

Feed the ego. Send money.

get concrete stuff done. not so much

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ObserverArt  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:11:03am

re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Small pluralities in those four states put him over.

Yep…and being from Ohio, that really pisses me off.

But really, overall too many Americans voted for Trump. And the reasons they did are troubling.

The one that I think is the most troubling and it is showing big time is everyone looking for a non-politician. What really is the thinking behind that? Ignorance about civics and how politics works seems to be the biggest reason. Until reality hits and people can figure out politicians are politicians for a reason then we are going to be suffering this mess for a long time.

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:11:37am

re: #76 HappyWarrior

Yes. It wasn’t a pardon.

Which means the conviction still stood, which means Manning still has a felony on her record for the rest of her days.

Meanwhile, the wingnuts want Arpaio pardoned, which would mean even though he admits guilt, he’d technically be able to run again for sheriff if he chose to do so.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:12:13am

re: #84 Targetpractice

Which means the conviction still stood, which means Manning still has a felony on her record for the rest of her days.

Meanwhile, the wingnuts want Arpaio pardoned, which would mean even though he admits guilt, he’d technically be able to run again for sheriff if he chose to do so.

Exactly, there’s a big difference especially considering Arpaio and Manning’s ages.

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fern01  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:13:02am

re: #28 Belafon

Why is Bernie having an Ohio town hall - Does he represent the voters of Ohio. He might as well call himself trump and have a campaign event.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:13:53am

re: #63 lawhawk

It needs to be understood that Trump is only playing to a minority of white supremacists while pissing off everyone else. It’s not even playing to his base… it’s a tacit admission to the moral and ethical bankruptcy of the Republican Party, who will repeatedly continue to look the other way because silence is consent. They aren’t really his base; yes, they share mutual racial hatred of President Obama’s election and reelection and, while sharing this racial hatred, but they still don’t let that out in the open.

Trump’s tactics are only meant to balkanize the voting public at large, at least those who aren’t suppressed from voting. It’s not indicative of a winning strategy or any goddam dimension of chess — hell, Trump’s trying to play chess with a deck of cards. He’s the least popular and least accomplished occupant of the White House at this juncture, with an unpresidented list of scandals rivaling in size to a New York City phone book.

There is a chance that GOP legislators may be humiliated by the public into doing something, i.e. the Russian sanctions, once the wild unpopularity of pardoning a known white supremacist and full-throated racist — coupled with dog whistle after dog whistle — starts to really sink in. But that’s if either 1) they are worried about losing their seats to an angry populace next November, 2) their donors are worried about losing their shirts on this hellscape or 3) it’s apparent they won’t be able to gerrymander and suppress their way out of this.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:14:40am

re: #86 fern01

Why is Bernie having an Ohio town hall - Does he represent the voters of Ohio. He might as well call himself trump and have a campaign event.

That’s pretty much for these town halls are. They’re a quick start to run for President without saying you’re running for President. He’s been doing a lot of these since November. Something if Clinton had done them, his supporters would rage at her for her but it’s okay for St. Bernard.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:14:49am

re: #83 ObserverArt

Yep…and being from Ohio, that really pisses me off.

But really, overall too many Americans voted for Trump. And the reasons they did are troubling.

The one that I think is the most troubling and it is showing big time is everyone looking for a non-politician. What really is the thinking behind that? Ignorance about civics and how politics works seems to be the biggest reason. Until reality hits and people can figure out politicians are politicians for a reason then we are going to be suffering this mess for a long time.

Trump was a collective middle finger raised by alienated, disgruntled voters at Washington and its political elites.

DT sold himself as the anti-politician, which made him immune to gaffes that would have wrecked the campaigns or even the career of any other professional politician.

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ObserverArt  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:15:55am

re: #86 fern01

Why is Bernie having an Ohio town hall - Does he represent the voters of Ohio. He might as well call himself trump and have a campaign event.

Funny thing about that. If a Democrat sneezes in Ohio, I’ll get an email.

I get an email from the Democrats about anything and everything that happens in Ohio…from local to national.

Did not hear a thing about Bernie having a town hall in Ohio.

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nines09  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:16:26am
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dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:17:03am

re: #72 lawhawk

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Kelly is trying to get Trump’s incompetent cabal of cronies to conform to the standard that prior administrations used to control flow of info to the president to create coherent messaging.

With any other president, this would be unremarkable unnecessary, etc.,

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Myron Falwell  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:17:40am

re: #84 Targetpractice

Which means the conviction still stood, which means Manning still has a felony on her record for the rest of her days.

Meanwhile, the wingnuts want Arpaio pardoned, which would mean even though he admits guilt, he’d technically be able to run again for sheriff if he chose to do so.

In theory, he could.

But Arpaio is — what, in his 80s? And he got voted out of office for reasons slightly unrelated to his conviction IIRC.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:18:37am

re: #90 ObserverArt

Funny thing about that. If a Democrat sneezes in Ohio, I’ll get an email.

I get an email from the Democrats about anything and everything that happens in Ohio…from local to national.

Did not hear a thing about Bernie having a town hall in Ohio.

Well you already know the answer but the operative word is Democrat here. Honestly, I’d let go some of my frustrations with Sanders if he just took the Dem label or stopped using the Dems for money. The DSCC raised loads of money for him in a re-election when he was a shoe in. Yet he shits on the DNC.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:19:45am

re: #79 Jay C

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So what I’m wondering is: does “bad information” come out to equal “bad news”? Because if it does (IMO, very possibly wrong) , it sounds like Gen. Kelly is merely enabling, rather than counteracting one of The Orange Idiot’s many failings in office: i.e. only wanting to hear “good news”, only wanting to hear personal praise, and ignoring/dismissing anything that doesn’t fit either of those categories.

And yeah: the Maginot Line worked just fine: til the Germans decided to go around, rather than through it….

i understood the story to be not so much “news control” as paperwork, documents, proposals, strategies, that “cross the president’s desk” - you know, work

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:20:30am

re: #45 jeffreyw

Love your hummingbird photos. I haven’t been able to attract any of them to my feeder.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:20:34am

re: #95 dangerman

i understood the story to be not so much “news control” as paperwork, documents, proposals, strategies, that “cross the president’s desk” - you know, work

Wouldn’t want to have a President that works would we.

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Renaissance_Man  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:21:23am

re: #89 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump was a collective middle finger raised at Washington and its political elites.

DT sold himself as the anti-politician, which made him immune to gaffes that would have wrecked the campaigns or even the career of any other professional politician.

No, again, I don’t think that’s quite true. His image is anti-politics, yes, but like any image, it is a construct of media.

He wasn’t and isn’t immune to gaffes or negative press. His persona and image construct is just as vulnerable as anyone else’s. The US media chose, whether through incompetence or malice, to immunise his image from his scandals. Their coverage of it was comparatively sparse and short-lived, while they chose, again, to relentlessly hammer away at Clinton’s supposed scandals, creating a narrative of a horse race where none deserved to be, for the purpose of keeping views and clicks.

The American public is easily led. Trump supporters, particularly so. The US media as a whole is an institution with almost limitless power in this nation, the world’s most powerful nation. They have fallen victim to that most American of ideals, however - the idea that a thing’s popularity directly correlates with worth, value, and morality. So they use this limitless power to construct narratives to increase and maintain their own popularity. And if that means elevating the worst person in the world to the highest office in the world, so be it.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:22:51am

Trump and his cult aren’t very bright, are they?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:23:00am

Trump supporters aka the GOP base wanted an unapologetic bigot. They were sick of the McCains and Romneys who would tell them “No, ma’am, he’s not an Arab, he’s a fine Christian man.” Everything we saw in the Obama years from the GOP base. That explains why they nominated Trump perfectly to me.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:25:21am

re: #79 Jay C

I read this as an admission by John Kelly that absolutely nothing he’s doing has been working. And that this is a last-ditch move before he throws up his hands and resigns, four weeks too late.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:27:31am

re: #99 FormerDirtDart

Trump and his cult aren’t very bright, are they?

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Just read that—didn’t know about the “typo-laden” tweets, but I’m not surprised. That’s more rule than exception, isn’t it.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:27:56am

re: #80 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In the end, we are dealing with Higher Truths. These exist independent of facts.

while i, like many are currently disheartened with the state of affairs
and i cringe at even the concept of “alternative facts” spin etc
i take comfort in the long term - though i dont know how long that is
truth, does eventually win out
reality only lets us mess around for so long. eventually it smacks us in the face

without getting all epistomelogical, truth and reality are what works
knowledge moves in one direction only - humanity gathers knowledge - it rarely loses it. the more that is known, the harder it is to deny what actually is.

this is true with the natural sciences - columbus, galileo, germ theory, on and on
and it is true with social behavior - literacy, slavery, civil rights, privacy, lgbtq, justice for all

(ok there was the dark ages…)

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fern01  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:30:29am

re: #99 FormerDirtDart

the guy sure has an inferiority complex when it comes to President Obama - as he well should. From soaring high to blaaaat - how could folks lose their senses in this manner

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:31:06am

re: #83 ObserverArt

Yep…and being from Ohio, that really pisses me off.

But really, overall too many Americans voted for Trump. And the reasons they did are troubling.

The one that I think is the most troubling and it is showing big time is everyone looking for a non-politician. What really is the thinking behind that? Ignorance about civics and how politics works seems to be the biggest reason. Until reality hits and people can figure out politicians are politicians for a reason then we are going to be suffering this mess for a long time.

a non politician could work if he was knowledgeable, inquisitive, willing to learn, and recognized that there are mechanisms, a system to how our government functions (visible and not) and worked with it

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:34:16am

re: #87 Myron Falwell

It needs to be understood that Trump is only playing to a minority of white supremacists while pissing off everyone else. It’s not even playing to his base… it’s a tacit admission to the moral and ethical bankruptcy of the Republican Party, who will repeatedly continue to look the other way because silence is consent. They aren’t really his base; yes, they share mutual racial hatred of President Obama’s election and reelection and, while sharing this racial hatred, but they still don’t let that out in the open.

The Republican Establishment Stands Behind Trump (goes to the atlantic)

Of 146 state party chairs and national committee members asked about President Trump’s response to Charlottesville, only seven were critical.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:34:27am

re: #105 dangerman

a non politician could work if he was knowledgeable, inquisitive, willing to learn, and recognized that there are mechanisms, a system to how our government functions (visible and not) and worked with it

In essence, Al Franken.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:35:40am

re: #107 Myron Falwell

In essence, Al Franken.

I’ll also note that Al Franken didn’t immediately try to capipualt himself into the Presidency and if anything seems reluctant to do so. Trump was so goddamn full of himself that he thought this would be easy. Franken knew he had a challenge and treated it as such.

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:38:26am

re: #106 dangerman

The Republican Establishment Stands Behind Trump (goes to the atlantic)

And if you queried them further, you’d probably find that at least half if not all of those critical of him amount to “He’s saying shit we’ve been saying in secret for decades out in the open!”

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:38:35am

re: #94 HappyWarrior

Well you already know the answer but the operative word is Democrat here. Honestly, I’d let go some of my frustrations with Sanders if he just took the Dem label or stopped using the Dems for money. The DSCC raised loads of money for him in a re-election when he was a shoe in. Yet he shits on the DNC.

“caucusing” with the dems doesnt make you a dem. an R *could* caucus with the dems
having similar positions “most of the time” doesnt make you a dem

they should have given him full support - as with any other candidate - the minute he joined the party

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:42:08am

re: #79 Jay C

“Maginot Line” is a really poor choice of words: I would think someone like John Kelly would know this.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:43:33am

re: #107 Myron Falwell

In essence, Al Franken.

yes a pretty good example

trump brought his apprentice persona (cause his real persona is an incompetent coward)
franken did not bring stuart smalley

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lawhawk  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:50:30am

re: #92 dangerman

That’s not true. There is a need to get a smooth flow of info to the president’s desk and controlling that flow is key. That’s why a CoS is the most powerful person in the WH other than the president himself because they’re the ones who help shape the agenda/access.

Kelly’s pushing the same administrative policy other CoS’s have done, but he’s doing it and feeding into Trump’s worst characteristics.

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lawhawk  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:51:09am

re: #111 Dr Lizardo

“Maginot Line” is a really poor choice of words: I would think someone like John Kelly would know this.

Kelly didn’t coin that - the author of the piece did, knowing full well that Trump will try to circumvent the restrictions Kelly is placing on him.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:52:39am

re: #110 dangerman

“caucusing” with the dems doesnt make you a dem. an R *could* caucus with the dems
having similar positions “most of the time” doesnt make you a dem

they should have given him full support - as with any other candidate - the minute he joined the party

They have given him support. That’s my point.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:54:05am

re: #109 Targetpractice

And if you queried them further, you’d probably find that at least half if not all of those critical of him amount to “He’s saying shit we’ve been saying in secret for decades out in the open!”

That pretty much is why a lot of them dislike him and why while I do appreciate people like Rick Wilson, I’m not ready to proclaim him a serious ally. The GOP had these problems before Trump. Think of it like a festering blister. That blister’s been there since the Nixon years. Trump merely popped it.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:55:52am

Prediction: If/When Hurricane Harvey doesn’t materialize into a beastly rain producer, Drudge et al. are going to lose their shit and blame the media for overhyping the storm.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:56:10am

re: #113 lawhawk

That’s not true. There is a need to get a smooth flow of info to the president’s desk and controlling that flow is key. That’s why a CoS is the most powerful person in the WH other than the president himself because they’re the ones who help shape the agenda/access.

Kelly’s pushing the same administrative policy other CoS’s have done, but he’s doing it and feeding into Trump’s worst characteristics.

you are right of course
you said this would otherwise be unremarkable

i said this would be unnecessary - and i was totally unclear what i meant by “this”
meaning 7-8 months in that it never would have been an issue
never would have been a topic of conversation
because from day one it would have run that way, normally, just like always

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Jay C  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:57:02am

re: #111 Dr Lizardo

“Maginot Line” is a really poor choice of words: I would think someone like John Kelly would know this.

True, but it’s Blake Hounshell’s phrasing, not Kelly’s.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:58:42am
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Belafon  Aug 24, 2017 • 7:59:03am

re: #117 Dr. Matt

Prediction: If/When Hurricane Harvey doesn’t materialize into a beastly rain producer, Drudge et al. are going to lose their shit and blame the media for overhyping the storm.

And if it does, it means that climate change isn’t real. What they say doesn’t really mean much.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:02:19am

re: #112 dangerman

yes a pretty good example

trump brought his apprentice persona (cause his real persona is an incompetent coward)
franken did not bring stuart smalley

Even on SNL, Franken was mostly a writer and heavily involved with the show’s behind-the-scenes machinations and internal politics. Characters like Stuart Smalley were almost secondary.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:02:35am

re: #115 HappyWarrior

They have given him support. That’s my point.

yeah - once again im agreeing because i’m not writing clearly
this AM’s coffee musta been switched at birth with decaf

i dont know the primary rules
im saying he should have joined the party

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jeffreyw  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:03:59am

re: #96 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Love your hummingbird photos. I haven’t been able to attract any of them to my feeder.

We’ve had feeders out for at least 25 years in the same spot, I don’t remember how long it took to get them coming regularly, but I’m certain that we are getting the same crew every summer. We were prompted to put them out when a hummer cruised Mrs J’s flowers one day. It takes time.

YouTube

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lawhawk  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:06:32am

re: #118 dangerman

Even with your discussion, I think there have been new admins who have had turnover and needed to clarify the chain of command on providing info to the president from a gatekeeper (CoS). I think even Obama had some issues with this when he came in. Same with GWB and others. That’s why there’s a honeymoon period because everyone is figuring out their roles and what they’re doing. Usually the person coming into the WH has understanding of what the job entails and they have staffers who know how to be gatekeepers in their prior positions (governors have chiefs of staff, as do Senators). Trump came in with a free for all and his business style was exposed for what it was - a sham. He doesn’t have leadership skills - and everyone is trying to suck up to him and screwing over everyone else.

Kelly’s just trying to get the admin up to a minimal level of competence.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:08:31am

re: #124 jeffreyw

We’ve had feeders out for at least 25 years in the same spot, I don’t remember how long it took to get them coming regularly, but I’m certain that we are getting the same crew every summer. We were prompted to put them out when a hummer cruised Mrs J’s flowers one day. It takes time.

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Video

WOW

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gocart mozart  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:08:38am
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mmmirele  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:09:13am

Oh blergh.

Over the weekend, POTUS Shield prayer warriors gathered at Rick Joyner’s church in South Carolina for three days of spiritual warfare against the enemies of President Trump.

Led by tsunami-stopping pastor Frank Amedia, who served as a volunteer “Christian policy liaison” for Trump’s presidential campaign, POTUS Shield was formed to cover Trump in prayer and protection by Religious Right activists who believe that Trump is to play a key role in ushering in a new prophetic era that will unite the church as they “prepare the way for the coming of the Lord.”

During the Saturday afternoon session, Amedia revealed that he will soon be traveling to Washington, D.C., to seek White House press credentials for his organization so that they can use right-wing Christian media to help spread President Trump’s message directly to his supporters.

More at the link, obviously, but OMG!

rightwingwatch.org

I had trouble peeling my hands away from my face long enough to type this post.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:11:52am

re: #129 mmmirele

Oh blergh.

More at the link, obviously, but OMG!

rightwingwatch.org

I had trouble peeling my hands away from my face long enough to type this post.

What a clownish, ridiculous bunch of people these Court Evangelicals are. Just like their president. What a joke.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:13:33am

re: #129 mmmirele

Oh blergh.

More at the link, obviously, but OMG!

rightwingwatch.org

I had trouble peeling my hands away from my face long enough to type this post.

Maybe Amedia can talk about Trump’s Christian message of cheating on your wives, multiple divorces, greed, violence, and idol worship.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:13:50am

re: #129 mmmirele

Sadly, we have to face the fact that about one-third of the US population is essentially lost; they are now so far gone into primitive atavism that they’re beyond reaching.

We need to figure out some kind of containment policy to prevent them from further harming the US body politic.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:19:12am

re: #109 Targetpractice

And if you queried them further, you’d probably find that at least half if not all of those critical of him amount to “He’s saying shit we’ve been saying in secret for decades out in the open!”

if you havent, go to the article and read the official responses to these two questions:

Q1: Are you satisfied with the president’s response to Charlottesville?

Q2: Do you approve of his comment that there were “some very fine people” who marched alongside the Ku Klux Klan and neo-Nazis?

party chairs
committee members

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:22:24am

re: #133 dangerman

if you havent, go to the article and read the official responses to these two questions:

Q1: Are you satisfied with the president’s response to Charlottesville?

Q2: Do you approve of his comment that there were “some very fine people” who marched alongside the Ku Klux Klan and neo-Nazis?

party chairs
committee members

I saw a lot of them try to weasel out of number two especially.

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LastYearsMan  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:30:38am

Regarding the Trump “eclipse” … Dear lord I wish I had the Photoshop skills to show Trump then moving out of the way to reveal … Michelle Obama, shining brightly.

Anyhow, the important thing about an eclipse is that it is brief and mostly trivial.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:31:05am

re: #120 FormerDirtDart

Check out this paragraph from the story:

We don’t hear much about Carson and HUD in the media, because he and his wife and kids avoid press coverage like the Plague.

Journalists could do us a great public service by dividing up the executive branch and watching each department like a hawk. While Trump struts and frets upon the stage, his minions are slowly but surely taking government apart brick-by-brick, free from media observation.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:32:21am

re: #136 wheat-dogg

Check out this paragraph from the story:

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We don’t hear much about Carson and HUD in the media, because he and his wife and kids avoid press coverage like the Plague.

Journalists could do us a great public service by dividing up the executive branch and watching each department like a hawk. While Trump struts and frets upon the stage, his minions are slowly but surely taking government apart brick-by-brick, free from media observation.

It’s easy to forget that Carson is a pretty messed up individual too.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:33:00am

re: #136 wheat-dogg

Check out this paragraph from the story:

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We don’t hear much about Carson and HUD in the media, because he and his wife and kids avoid press coverage like the Plague.

Journalists could do us a great public service by dividing up the executive branch and watching each department like a hawk. While Trump struts and frets upon the stage, his minions are slowly but surely taking government apart brick-by-brick, free from media observation.

Yeah this is some article. Read the whole thing yesterday.

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lawhawk  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:35:52am

re: #136 wheat-dogg

Carson is actively destroying the function of HUD. A spotlight needs to be shone on that saboteur and his enablers.

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gocart mozart  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:37:12am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:38:22am

re: #139 lawhawk

Carson is actively destroying the function of HUD. A spotlight needs to be shone on that saboteur and his enablers.

That’s what happens when you appoint someone totally unqualified and contemptful of what HUD does.

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electrotek  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:38:37am

re: #4 teleskiguy

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Red Rocks does that to artists. Every time. The place is wholly unique.

Still haven’t forgot the time when I saw Chemical Brothers and Fatboy Slim over there 18 years ago, which was known as Rave on the Rocks at the time to which MTV even dedicated an episode of AMP with footage from the show.

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electrotek  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:40:34am

re: #99 FormerDirtDart

Trump and his cult aren’t very bright, are they?

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Jesus, just thought we can’t sink any lower and this comes up.

/facepalm

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wheat-dogg  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:40:58am

re: #139 lawhawk

Carson is actively destroying the function of HUD. A spotlight needs to be shone on that saboteur and his enablers.

The long-term effects will be disastrous. Troubled urban areas will become even more derelict and dangerous than now. Even rural areas will be affected. Axing Community Development Block Grants is killing a favorite Republican program.

Carson’s reliance on his wife and kids is also distressing, for two reasons: it suggests Ben’s mind is going and it’s the same autocratic/dynastic behavior we seen in Trump & Family.

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ObserverArt  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:43:05am

re: #141 HappyWarrior

That’s what happens when you appoint someone totally unqualified and contemptful of what HUD does.

Go figure.

This is what happens when the president is totally unqualified and contemptful of government in general and the people that count on it.

Maybe someday the Trumpians will figure out Trump doesn’t just hate Democrats and established Republicans, he hates everything. Yes, he hates them too…he just uses them like he has used people and governments all his life.

He’s an asshole.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:43:55am

re: #100 HappyWarrior

Trump supporters aka the GOP base wanted an unapologetic bigot. They were sick of the McCains and Romneys who would tell them “No, ma’am, he’s not an Arab, he’s a fine Christian man.” Everything we saw in the Obama years from the GOP base. That explains why they nominated Trump perfectly to me.

Just so

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:44:24am

re: #145 ObserverArt

Go figure.

This is what happens when the president is totally unqualified and contemptful of government in general and the people that count on it.

Maybe someday the Trumpians will figure out Trump doesn’t just hate Democrats and established Republicans, he hates everything. Yes, he hates them too…he just uses them like he has used people and governments all his life.

He’s an asshole.

Exactly.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:45:28am

re: #146 Sir John Barron

Just so

Basically my opinion is that Trump is the loud voice of the whispers that previous GOP candidates have done for years. Reagan opening up in Philadelphia, Mississippi talking about States Rights really is no different from Trump’s “fine people on both sides.”

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electrotek  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:45:31am

The comments on this story, good Lord:

Facebook Post

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Sir John Barron  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:46:23am

re: #139 lawhawk

Carson is actively destroying the function of HUD. A spotlight needs to be shone on that saboteur and his enablers.

There are incompetent Cabinet Secretaries, Cabinet Secretaries unfamiliar with the Departments to which they have been appointed. And then there is Dr. Ben Carson, in a league all his own in its awful dimwittedness, disinterestedness and apathy.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:46:40am

re: #149 electrotek

The comments on this story, good Lord:

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Not going to break my rule, not going to break my rule.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:47:27am

re: #150 Sir John Barron

There are incompetent Cabinet Secretaries, Cabinet Secretaries unfamiliar with the Departments to which they have been appointed. And then there is Dr. Ben Carson, in a league all his own in its awful dimwittedness, disinterestedness and apathy.

Carson makes some of the geniuses that Reagan appointed to run cabinet departments look competent. And I’m including that douchebag who thought hte Beach Boys were anti-American.

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electrotek  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:49:28am

re: #151 HappyWarrior

Not going to break my rule, not going to break my rule.

What rule was that?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:49:57am

re: #153 electrotek

What rule was that?

Don’t read the comments.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:50:40am

That rule is double for a Yahoo newsarticle of YouTube video about anything involving a minority race or religion.

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electrotek  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:50:59am

re: #154 HappyWarrior

Don’t read the comments.

It’s hard but it’s tempting for me. It’s worse than my past drug habits lol

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:51:54am

re: #156 electrotek

It’s hard but it’s tempting for me. It’s worse than my past drug habits lol

I break it a lot. Broke it recently reading the comments on the Venezuelan coaches consoling the Dominican kid in the LLWS with “We are all Latinos.” You can guess what the comments were.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:56:37am

re: #157 HappyWarrior

I break it a lot. Broke it recently reading the comments on the Venezuelan coaches consoling the Dominican kid in the LLWS with “We are all Latinos.” You can guess what the comments were.

Let me guess - like this?

Sewage Pipe Explosion

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:00:01am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:00:32am

re: #158 Dr Lizardo

Let me guess - like this?

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Video

Yep. “WHAT IF THEY SAID WE WERE ALL WHITE!”. Fortunately, there were aome sane people in the bunch pointing out that Latino isn’t a race, it’s a culture. The diversity of the Hispanic community on another note really is fascinating. So glad I took a class on the history of Latin America in college. Of course, I had no idea that my brother would meet and marry and have a daughter with a Peruvian-American when I took that class but as I had diplomatic aspirations at the time, I felt understanding our southern neighbors history was important. Plus, it’s fascinating.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:01:16am

re: #159 FormerDirtDart

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The Trump Presidential Library will consist of magazine covers with Donald’s face on it and his tacky books.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:04:02am

re: #161 HappyWarrior

The Trump Presidential Library will consist of magazine covers with Donald’s face on it and his tacky books.

i do not want to speculate on why they are “tacky”

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gocart mozart  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:04:47am

Exciting racing action

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:05:30am

re: #162 dangerman

i do not want to speculate on why they are “tacky”

I meant Art of the Deal. Pretty easy to. Just a bunch of arrogant bullshit from a man who was born with champagne on him who thinks he invented baseball and champagne.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:08:21am

re: #161 HappyWarrior

The Trump Presidential Library will consist of magazine covers with Donald’s face on it and his tacky books.

And clippings of articles he was mentioned in.

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wrenchwench  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:08:50am

re: #164 HappyWarrior

re: #162 dangerman

i do not want to speculate on why they are “tacky”

I meant Art of the Deal. Pretty easy to. Just a bunch of arrogant bullshit from a man who was born with champagne on him who thinks he invented baseball and champagne.

Smooth maneuver avoiding his attempt to get you to speculate on it while claiming to have no such desire himself.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:09:10am

re: #164 HappyWarrior

I meant Art of the Deal. Pretty easy to. Just a bunch of arrogant bullshit from a man who was born with champagne on him who thinks he invented baseball and champagne.

sure i know
still looking at that picture in 159 i wouldnt be surprised by any behavior…

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:09:13am

re: #165 FormerDirtDart

And clippings of articles he was mentioned in.

Maybe they’ll have an area devoted to his twice daily “You’re such a great leader” briefs.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:09:39am

re: #168 Belafon

Maybe they’ll have an area devoted to his twice daily “You’re such a great leader” briefs.

or letters from adoroing fans.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:10:34am

I’m happy with my current job. Looking for new work though. Trump has pretty much dissuaded me from wanting a job with the federal government at all at the moment.

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wrenchwench  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:11:17am

re: #167 dangerman

sure i know
still looking at that picture in 159 i wouldnt be surprised by any behavior…

SeewhatImean?

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EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:11:42am

re: #150 Sir John Barron

There are incompetent Cabinet Secretaries, Cabinet Secretaries unfamiliar with the Departments to which they have been appointed. And then there is Dr. Ben Carson, in a league all his own in its awful dimwittedness, disinterestedness and apathy.

Pruitt at the EPA running around with his armed goon squad at all times (including while he is at the EPA) and dismantling the agency is right up there with Carson in terms of being awful.

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KGxvi  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:16:44am

re: #159 FormerDirtDart

Reminds me of the Directv rich Russian guy commercial… oppulance, I has it

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:18:11am

re: #173 KGxvi

Reminds me of the Directv rich Russian guy commercial… oppulance, I has it

That’s what Trump reminds me of. It’s not Hitler. It’s a post-Soviet oligarch.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:18:59am
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Romantic Heretic  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:20:36am

re: #83 ObserverArt

To me it is simply that American culture is centred around a ‘can do!’ attitude. It is believed that things can get done without government.

At least that’s how it was in the beginning. Now it is widely accepted that government gets in the way.

So it follows that if government disappeared along with politicians everything would be perfect and wonderful forever.

Of course the main people behind this change are those who are certainly in favour of government. Just one that doesn’t have to deal with checks and balances or those messy elections, or rule of law for that matter.

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wrenchwench  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:21:00am

re: #163 gocart mozart

Exciting racing action

[CORGI RACE]

Reminds me of the only time I ever had the opportunity to race someone on horseback, and I asked my opponent’s rider, ‘Where we racing to?’ And she said, ‘Follow me!’ Even though it was my first rodeo, I knew that’s not how it works.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:22:44am

re: #171 wrenchwench

SeewhatImean?

;-)
“danger”, also known as “here comes trouble”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:25:15am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:26:12am

re: #175 FormerDirtDart

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It is and I agree. Trump is a means to an end for Putin. If he could find a lefty Trump, he would. He wants the U.S. & Democratic world divided.

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Alephnaught  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:26:29am

re: #99 FormerDirtDart

Trump and his cult aren’t very bright, are they?

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Heh, that’s only the first half of an eclipse. To continue the analogy of an eclipse, you then run those images in the opposite order. :)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:26:47am

re: #179 GlutenFreeJesus

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She’s weird.

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gocart mozart  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:27:32am

re: #175 FormerDirtDart

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:27:49am

re: #176 Romantic Heretic

government gets in the way of people who want what they want and everyone else be damned. they are essentially breaking the common social contract

there are some things, in fact many things, that an even minimally reasonable government does better than private enterprise / free markets (especially when those markets arent actually “free”)

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:28:22am

re: #159 FormerDirtDart

My question to this horror is what designer did he find to agglomerate this hideous concoction? He may have, loosely put, envisioned it, but a someone had to take the verbal diarrhea and convert it into a room. I know of no self-respecting decorator/designer who would do that. I guess money can buy you anything.

**shudder**

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JordanRules  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:29:24am
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FormerDirtDart  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:31:29am
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lawhawk  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:31:47am

Fuck the GOP:

Every time you look at their plans for tax reform, it always involves shifting the burdens from the rich and corporations to everyone else. That’s the consistency involved, and there’s no way to parse this any other way. Trump will go along with whatever the GOP pulls out of their collective ass.

GOP wants to reduce corporate tax burdens to nothing; wants to do the same with rich.

They always ignore that economic growth is driven when most people can afford to buy stuff, not when rich people decide they can buy another house.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:36:02am

re: #183 gocart mozart

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carey94tt  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:41:48am

Serious bummer…

This post triggered me to glance at the tour dates for QOTSA. Sure enough, there is St. Louis at the wonderful Peabody Opera House (yep….Peabody Coal is headquartered here) and of course, it is SOLD OUT.

VERY VERY Few bands I would pay to see live…QOTSA is one.

QOTSA

*sigh*

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:49:43am

re: #188 lawhawk

Fuck the GOP:

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Every time you look at their plans for tax reform, it always involves shifting the burdens from the rich and corporations to everyone else. That’s the consistency involved, and there’s no way to parse this any other way. Trump will go along with whatever the GOP pulls out of their collective ass.

GOP wants to reduce corporate tax burdens to nothing; wants to do the same with rich.

They always ignore that economic growth is driven when most people can afford to buy stuff, not when rich people decide they can buy another house.

So the “reform” plan includes caps on mortgage deduction, scrapping state & local tax deductions, and taxing you put money into your 401K. Yet they’ll try to convince us that this is a bill aimed at helping the poor and working class.

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electrotek  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:50:54am

re: #190 carey94tt

Serious bummer…

This post triggered me to glance at the tour dates for QOTSA. Sure enough, there is St. Louis at the wonderful Peabody Opera House (yep….Peabody Coal is headquartered here) and of course, it is SOLD OUT.

VERY VERY Few bands I would pay to see live…QOTSA is one.

QOTSA

*sigh*

I missed them when they were at Coachella 2014 :(

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Dave In Austin  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:57:49am
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ObserverArt  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:58:11am

re: #157 HappyWarrior

I break it a lot. Broke it recently reading the comments on the Venezuelan coaches consoling the Dominican kid in the LLWS with “We are all Latinos.” You can guess what the comments were.

When the comments at a sports website like ESPN turn into political bullshit, you know you cannot read the comments anywhere.

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mmmirele  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:00:14am

re: #186 JordanRules

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You know, I never thought the White House charity beat would be a thing, but there you go. Sounds like Mar-A-Lago is going to be more like Mar-A-Ghost Town come winter.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:00:17am

re: #193 Dave In Austin

Leftists are so violent.

//

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JordanRules  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:00:44am
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Myron Falwell  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:00:58am

re: #161 HappyWarrior

The Trump Presidential Library will consist of magazine covers with Donald’s face on it and his tacky books.

It will be located in either St. Petersburg or Moscow.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:01:02am

re: #194 ObserverArt

When the comments at a sports website like ESPN turn into political bullshit, you know you cannot read the comments anywhere.

Yeah I didn’t even bother reading the comments on Hank Aaron speaking up for Kaepernick.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:01:06am

Looks like The Weather Channel will be prevalent around here for a few days. Looks like Harvey is now officially a Hurricane (85mph). Looking at a Cat3 at landfall.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:01:33am

re: #193 Dave In Austin

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Sounds that way to me. Fucking thug.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:02:06am

re: #197 JordanRules

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Ryan as usual is a goddamn liar.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:02:38am

re: #99 FormerDirtDart

President Trump tweets out meme of himself eclipsing former President Obama
— NBC News

I wonder if Drump’s super duper prayer warrior team knows this is what the president is doing when he’s supposed to be putting The End Times into effect?

/

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:03:07am

re: #201 HappyWarrior

Because I read the name of who you replied to before the number, and the name is right above yours, I read your comment as a reply to #200.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:04:19am

re: #203 Sir John Barron

I wonder if Drump’s super duper prayer warrior team knows this is what the president is doing when he’s supposed to be putting The End Times into effect?

/

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:04:20am

re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Small pluralities in those four states put him over.

Michigan was gerrymandered up the wazoo in 2014

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:05:25am

HEY LOOK!!! (no not at me)

it’s been like 15 minutes and nothing’s happened

remember those days?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:05:35am

That Russian bot thread was fascinating.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:07:26am

re: #205 Stanley Sea

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Lemme guess Paul, MUSLIMS. Too bad you’re wrong. Muslims have been in the UK for a very long time. Alt-right wing shitheads like yourself though are fairly new.

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electrotek  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:08:41am

re: #209 HappyWarrior

Lemme guess Paul, MUSLIMS. Too bad you’re wrong. Muslims have been in the UK for a very long time. Alt-right wing shitheads like yourself though are fairly new.

Remember the days when this dunce was a full-blown 9/11 Truther?

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Myron Falwell  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:09:52am

re: #193 Dave In Austin

And watch as Roger suffers zero legal repercussions from it because Republicans.

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ObserverArt  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:10:01am

re: #186 JordanRules

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Heard someone complaining that “it is so sad that Mar-a-lago is losing these events because of politics.”

Obviously a Trump supporter. Probably fine that a lot of people are losing real stuff that matters to them, like maybe healthcare, careers in the military, government jobs and all kinds of protections like EPA, etc. though. Yeah fuck it being politics.

And maybe had Trump not turned Mar-a-lago into an extension of the White House and a money making machine due to it being Trump’s it might have not had this problem.

I guess I am just not feeling sorry for Trump today. Probably won’t feel sorry for him tomorrow either…or ever.

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EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:10:02am

re: #191 Targetpractice

So the “reform” plan includes caps on mortgage deduction, scrapping state & local tax deductions, and taxing you put money into your 401K. Yet they’ll try to convince us that this is a bill aimed at helping the poor and working class.

If one were to come up with a tax plan that would screw over California as hard as possible relative to red states, this is what you’d end up with.

The Spite House strikes again.

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allegro  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:10:07am

re: #200 Dave In Austin

Looks like The Weather Channel will be prevalent around here for a few days. Looks like Harvey is now officially a Hurricane (85mph). Looking at a Cat3 at landfall.

Oh goodie. Just got back from a grocery run so stocked on essentials, yanno wine and stuff - plenty of everything so no one freaking out here. For now.

Nothing much else to do now but watch and wait.

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BlueGrl21  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:10:51am

Greetings from the Houston area, where all of us are preparing for a long and nasty flood. Dare I say biblical.

But, in the definition of irony, my company has a disaster recovery exercise happening this weekend. We’re failing all of our servers in the company over to our DR data center in Phoenix.

We’re holding a DR exercise in the middle of a real disaster.

Onward.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:11:07am

re: #212 ObserverArt

Heard someone complaining that “it is so sad that Mar-a-lago is losing these events because of politics.”

Obviously a Trump supporter. Probably fine that a lot of people are losing real stuff that matters to them, like maybe healthcare, careers in the military, government jobs and all kinds of protections like EPA, etc. though. Yeah fuck it being politics.

And maybe had Trump not turned Mar-a-lago into an extension of the White House and a money making machine due to it being Trump’s it might have not had this problem.

I guess I am just not feeling sorry for Trump today. Probably won’t feel sorry for him tomorrow either…or ever.

“So, you’re OK with Trump violating the constitution?”

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:12:46am

re: #194 ObserverArt

When the comments at a sports website like ESPN turn into political bullshit, you know you cannot read the comments anywhere.

back in the early 2000’s when gwb was president, political commenting on imdb.com was a wild place

its where i cut my internet political commenting teeth

earlier this year imdb removed is commenting function and history entirely

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EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:13:02am

re: #216 Belafon

“So, you’re OK with Trump violating the constitution?”

Wingnuts care about the constitution as much as they care about their religion — i.e. not at all. In both cases, all they are doing is using the constitution/bible as a rhetorical club vs. their perceived enemies.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:13:23am

re: #212 ObserverArt

Heard someone complaining that “it is so sad that Mar-a-lago is losing these events because of politics.”

You know what, Trumbot, I got a list here of all the sad things and this one is way, way down the list.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:13:29am

re: #98 Renaissance_Man

No, again, I don’t think that’s quite true. His image is anti-politics, yes, but like any image, it is a construct of media.

He sold himself as the anti-politician. His sales pitch would not have worked without the media being fully complicit.

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ObserverArt  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:13:38am

re: #199 HappyWarrior

Yeah I didn’t even bother reading the comments on Hank Aaron speaking up for Kaepernick.

Well, at least that has a bit of politics to it. But you can’t read a story about a normal sports story without it going off into the weeds politically.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:14:23am

re: #197 JordanRules

[Embedded content]Monday night: Paul Ryan said that “dozens of counties” don’t have Obamacare insurers

grapefruit follow up: mr ryan, can you name two?

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wrenchwench  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:14:34am

re: #215 BlueGrl21

Greetings from the Houston area, where all of us are preparing for a long and nasty flood. Dare I say biblical.

But, in the definition of irony, my company has a disaster recovery exercise happening this weekend. We’re failing all of our servers in the company over to our DR data center in Phoenix.

We’re holding a DR exercise in the middle of a real disaster.

Onward.

Phoenix. Where they WISH they knew what a ‘flood’ is. ‘Is that when the arroyos get so much water in them that you can SEE it?’

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:15:44am

re: #136 wheat-dogg

Check out this paragraph from the story:

[Embedded content]

We don’t hear much about Carson and HUD in the media, because he and his wife and kids avoid press coverage like the Plague.

Journalists could do us a great public service by dividing up the executive branch and watching each department like a hawk. While Trump struts and frets upon the stage, his minions are slowly but surely taking government apart brick-by-brick, free from media observation.

Which has been a successful tactic all along: every time we fixate on a gaffe like staring into the solar eclipse, we miss another piece of social progress being dismantled.

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ObserverArt  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:16:10am

re: #214 allegro

Oh goodie. Just got back from a grocery run so stocked on essentials, yanno wine and stuff - plenty of everything so no one freaking out here. For now.

Nothing much else to do now but watch and wait.

And chase kittehs all over the place!

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:16:41am

re: #223 wrenchwench

Phoenix. Where they WISH they knew what a ‘flood’ is. ‘Is that when the arroyos get so much water in them that you can SEE it?’

A few years ago, when DFW was going through a major drought, the ground was so dry that we got a half an hour of rain, the ground soaked it up, and it was still dry.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:19:22am

re: #212 ObserverArt

Heard someone complaining that “it is so sad that Mar-a-lago is losing these events because of politics.”
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not “politics”
they are distancing themselves from bigotry and racism

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wrenchwench  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:21:33am

re: #226 Belafon

A few years ago, when DFW was going through a major drought, the ground was so dry that we got a half an hour of rain, the ground soaked it up, and it was still dry.

We have rain that ‘dries up’ before it hits the ground. Virga. Magic is when it touches your head, but never lands.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:21:33am

Really great storified thread about the proliferation of Jeff Davis Highways around the country:

storify.com

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Dr. Matt  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:23:05am

I’m getting emails from someone that is using 11 point Papyrus font in purple as their default font. How can someone not be aware of how stupid that looks?

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Myron Falwell  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:24:15am

re: #188 lawhawk

Just as before, this shit will collapse due to infighting from those loons who think it doesn’t go far enough.

Plus they have someone occupying the White House who has no zero interest in helping see what they want get passed. As Trump did with their attempts to repeal Obamacare, he’ll sabotage everything with his “superior” ///////////////// deal-making skills.

It’s going to be months of very little or nothing, and possibly the ignominious shutdown of the federal government by the controlling parties standard bearer to boot.

In short, more of the same from a sickly dysfunctional political party.

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mmmirele  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:24:30am

re: #223 wrenchwench

Phoenix. Where they WISH they knew what a ‘flood’ is. ‘Is that when the arroyos get so much water in them that you can SEE it?’

We know what a flood is. We also have plenty of stupid people who will drive through flooded spots even when there are signs saying DON’T DRIVE THROUGH HERE IF THERE’S WATER.

Back in the ’00s, one of the local radio stations did a parody of Dio’s “Holy Diver” called “Holy Driver” about a dumbass who tried to cross a filled arroyo and, yes, of course, his SUV got stranded in the middle and he had to be plucked off the top by helicopter.

We know flooding, it’s just that some people (a lot of people) are stupid about it. We’re the place where the Department of Transportation puts up warning messages on the electronic signs telling people to drive slower when there’s water on the roadway. No lie.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:24:44am

re: #221 ObserverArt

Well, at least that has a bit of politics to it. But you can’t read a story about a normal sports story without it going off into the weeds politically.

True, just didn’t want to see a bunch of assholes talking down to a man who came of age in Jim Crow Alabama.

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allegro  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:25:49am

re: #225 ObserverArt

And chase kittehs all over the place!

You have NO idea. LOL

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:26:17am

When I hear ‘Harvey’ for some reason I think of Harvey the Rabbit
But, I guess the current ‘Harvey’ will lead to a much darker story

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wrenchwench  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:31:42am

re: #232 mmmirele

We know what a flood is. We also have plenty of stupid people who will drive through flooded spots even when there are signs saying DON’T DRIVE THROUGH HERE IF THERE’S WATER.

Back in the ’00s, one of the local radio stations did a parody of Dio’s “Holy Diver” called “Holy Driver” about a dumbass who tried to cross a filled arroyo and, yes, of course, his SUV got stranded in the middle and he had to be plucked off the top by helicopter.

We know flooding, it’s just that some people (a lot of people) are stupid about it. We’re the place where the Department of Transportation puts up warning messages on the electronic signs telling people to drive slower when there’s water on the roadway. No lie.

‘Oh, look! It’s water! Drive closer so I can touch it! You can touch that stuff, can’t you?’

I tease. We’re having a very pleasant monsoon this year. Many Phoenicians enjoy their summers here at 6,000 feet.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:32:58am

re: #235 FormerDirtDart

When I hear ‘Harvey’ for some reason I think of Harvey the Rabbit
But, I guess the current ‘Harvey’ will lead to a much darker story

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I think of either Harvey Dent…or this:

Weird Al TV: Harvey the Wonder Hamster

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Jay C  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:35:09am

re: #231 Myron Falwell

Just as before, this shit will collapse due to infighting from those loons who think it doesn’t go far enough.

Plus they have someone occupying the White House who has no zero interest in helping see what they want get passed. As Trump did with their attempts to repeal Obamacare, he’ll sabotage everything with his “superior” ///////////////// deal-making skills.

It’s going to be months of very little or nothing, and possibly the ignominious shutdown of the federal government by the controlling parties standard bearer to boot.

In short, more of the same from a sickly dysfunctional political party.

While I think/hope you’re quite right about the results of this fall upcoming tax/budget fiasco (the “hope” being that there is always the current status quo to fall back on), I’m not sure just how the Asshole-in-Chief can actually “shut down the government” on his own hook. I’m sure he would try (or like to), but aren’t the funding mechanisms for the government a matter of Congressional, rather than Executive, authorization?

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:38:09am

re: #238 Jay C

While I think/hope you’re quite right about the results of this fall upcoming tax/budget fiasco (the “hope” being that there is always the current status quo to fall back on), I’m not sure just how the Asshole-in-Chief can actually “shut down the government” on his own hook. I’m sure he would try (or like to), but aren’t the funding mechanisms for the government a matter of Congressional, rather than Executive, authorization?

He has to sign the debt ceiling change. He also controls the actual spending, though he hasn’t done much with that up to now.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:39:17am

re: #235 FormerDirtDart

Update from Corpus Christi: as of this morning the storm is tracking slightly more northward, which will put it near Port LaVaca for landfall, about 60 miles away from us. We are anticipating high winds and heavy flooding here in Corpus, but I am relieved it it heading away from here. Now I just hope it stays on its current track.

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Jay C  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:41:00am

re: #239 Belafon

He has to sign the debt ceiling change. He also controls the actual spending, though he hasn’t done much with that up to now.

Is that vetoable legislation (or is it a special category because budget, or whatever)?
And possibly subject to an override?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:46:52am

<3 Logan Handsomepants.

Canterbury Park Corgi Races 7-30-2016

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b_sharp  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:48:01am

re: #242 GlutenFreeJesus

<3 Logan Handsomepants.

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Video

Monty Python Twit Race Sketch

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Dave In Austin  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:49:27am

re: #232 mmmirele

Stupid Driver Law

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:49:59am

re: #241 Jay C

Is that vetoable legislation (or is it a special category because budget, or whatever)?
And possibly subject to an override?

It is, but that means it has to be overridden.

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electrotek  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:50:58am

Active shooter situation in Charleston, SC right now per Yahoo News.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:51:15am
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electrotek  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:52:04am
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Dr. Matt  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:53:01am

Trump shutting down the government to get US taxpayers money for his wall, that Mexico is actually supposed to pay for, would possibly be the biggest act of political suicide since H dubyah declaring “Read my lips: no new taxes”. Comically, his deplorable Nazi base will love Trump even more while ignoring the FACT that he wants to use US taxpayers money to pay for his wall.

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Kragar  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:53:40am
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Kragar  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:54:48am
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FormerDirtDart  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:55:18am

likely domestic situation, or robbery gone wrong is my guess

Or, just another nut job with a gun

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electrotek  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:56:10am

re: #252 FormerDirtDart

likely domestic situation, or robbery gone wrong is my guess

[Embedded content]

Angry white guy confirmed:

One witness told The Post and Courier that the gunman looked like “an ordinary grandpa, but he had a crazy look. It was very crazy.”

Edit: Nevermind /facepalm

A gunman entered Virginia’s restaurant on King Street, according to witnesses who spoke to The Post and Courier. An older black man, who was armed with a revolver, reportedly locked the front door of the restaurant and declared he was the “new king of Charleston.”

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:57:41am

re: #253 electrotek

Angry white guy confirmed:

I added an edit as you replied
“Or, just another nut job with a gun”

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electrotek  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:58:45am

re: #254 FormerDirtDart

I added an edit as you replied
“Or, just another nut job with a gun”

Another edit of mine.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:58:56am

re: #251 Kragar

All the more reason to go through with it. These people have to learn they don’t actually have the power they think they do.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:00:50am

re: #230 Dr. Matt

I’m getting emails from someone that is using 11 point Papyrus font in purple as their default font. How can someone not be aware of how stupid that looks?

Yours (and everyone’s) stupid is their artsy.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:01:18am

re: #215 BlueGrl21

Greetings from the Houston area, where all of us are preparing for a long and nasty flood. Dare I say biblical.

But, in the definition of irony, my company has a disaster recovery exercise happening this weekend. We’re failing all of our servers in the company over to our DR data center in Phoenix.

We’re holding a DR exercise in the middle of a real disaster.

Onward.

Well, you know, it’s a lot more efficient if you combine the exercise with the real disaster. Two birds with one stone and all that.

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jaunte  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:01:47am
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Kragar  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:02:07am
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dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:02:22am

re: #247 FormerDirtDart

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And of all places they wouldn’t be intimidating it’s in a courtroom

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b_sharp  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:02:45am

re: #258 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Well, you know, it’s a lot more efficient if you combine the exercise with the real disaster. Two birds with one stone and all that.

That’s why I ask my wife to push me down just as I’m tripping over my own feet.

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wrenchwench  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:04:27am

re: #251 Kragar

[Roger Stone says something…]

All still shots of Roger Stone look like excerpts from the Twit race.

re: #243 b_sharp

[

Monty Python Twit Race Sketch

]

Video

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:06:45am

I live in Montgomery County, TX., 40 miles north of Houston. This group text was just sent to me and 15 others.

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

I’m about to check out this information because it has Facebook News written all over it.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:06:57am

re: #262 b_sharp

That’s why I ask my wife to push me down just as I’m tripping over my own feet.

It’s better to get it all out of the way at once! Who wants to go through both a disaster and a disaster exercise? That’s two whole days devoted to this thing where you can just do the one and be like “see, it worked.”

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sagehen  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:07:51am

re: #241 Jay C

Is that vetoable legislation (or is it a special category because budget, or whatever)?
And possibly subject to an override?

It can be vetoed; Obama once vetoed a debt ceiling increase because it included an Obamacare repeal, and Ted Cruz tried to paint that as it was Dems who shut down the govt. Nobody believed it. (sadly, that was the same time as the Obamacare website first opened as a shitshow, which distracted from the hated everyone was pointing at the Republican Congress.)

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:09:13am

re: #259 jaunte

[Embedded content]

KellyAnne Conway. Nitwit

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jaunte  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:10:15am

re: #267 dangerman

KellyAnne Conway. Nitwit

And voice of Trump’s id.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:10:23am

re: #259 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Uh no, that’s not how a free press works, you fascist pig.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:11:00am

re: #251 Kragar

[Embedded content]

I know Roger, you’re dreaming of a civil war that you would shit yourself if it ever happened, fuckign right wing coward.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:11:39am

re: #250 Kragar

[Embedded content]

That’s the real Fake News right there and the people who complain about fake news push crap like this the most. Gee wonder why.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:12:42am

re: #264 Ace Rothstein

I live in Montgomery County, TX., 40 miles north of Houston. This group text was just sent to me and 15 others.

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I’m about to check out this information because it has Facebook News written all over it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:13:00am

It will be truly Epic if the GOP shuts down government while a REPUBLICAN is President.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:13:43am

re: #272 Decatur Deb

vqwIIlrw5dCXauoAIic4k6HROxztCpH9

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:14:05am

re: #273 Eclectic Cyborg

It will be truly Epic if the GOP shuts down government while a REPUBLICAN is President.

And all of Congress.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:14:37am

People need to learn that the GOP is incapable and unwilling to governor.

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allegro  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:14:41am

re: #264 Ace Rothstein

I live in Montgomery County, TX., 40 miles north of Houston. This group text was just sent to me and 15 others.

[Embedded content]

I’m about to check out this information because it has Facebook News written all over it.

Yes, it does. I’ll do some digging from here as well. This is my 45th hurricane season in the Houston area so there isn’t much I haven’t seen or experienced. This sounds WAY over-the-top, plum hysterical even.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:14:58am

re: #274 Ace Rothstein

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:15:18am

re: #273 Eclectic Cyborg

It will be truly Epic if the GOP shuts down government while a REPUBLICAN is President.

I wanna see a republican Congress override a republican presidential veto on a clean debt ceiling increase

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sagehen  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:15:46am

re: #252 FormerDirtDart

likely domestic situation, or robbery gone wrong is my guess

[Embedded content]

Or, just another nut job with a gun

Disgruntled employee is what the local authorities are telling MSNBC.

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Kragar  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:16:07am
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Ace Rothstein  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:16:33am

re: #277 allegro

Seriously, what would be the point of withholding that information? That would be criminal behavior and would lead to all kinds of liability. It even has the tone of a Facebook fake news post.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:16:53am

re: #277 allegro

They’re saying the possibility is for close to Cat 4 at landfall. The official guidance is saying 12 to 20, with isolated areas of 30”.

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jaunte  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:17:25am

re: #281 Kragar

The White House will solve it by denying that they know Texas.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:18:12am

So. How’s that beefing up at FEMA coming along?

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b_sharp  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:18:19am

re: #243 b_sharp

[Embedded content]

Sad commentary on modern life when a Monty Python video gets only one upding.

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b_sharp  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:20:48am

re: #265 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It’s better to get it all out of the way at once! Who wants to go through both a disaster and a disaster exercise? That’s two whole days devoted to this thing where you can just do the one and be like “see, it worked.”

And if it doesn’t work you can blame the natural disaster.

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jaunte  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:21:01am

re: #286 b_sharp

So many twits on the news every day.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:21:15am

re: #283 klys (maker of Silmarils)

They’re saying the possibility is for close to Cat 4 at landfall. The official guidance is saying 12 to 20, with isolated areas of 30”.

“Dear God, please have Harvey destroy all the Confederate monuments. It would be nice if you would leave everything else alone. Amen.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:21:18am

re: #283 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Harvey was not expected to become a major hurricane before landfall as of yesterday. Today it is. Intensity forecasting is still one of the trickiest things for them when it comes to a hurricane.

From a flooding perspective, the biggest issue is that the track forecast (which they have gotten pretty good at) shows it potentially stalling just inland for two days. All that moisture goes somewhere.

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electrotek  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:21:24am

So what’s the deal with Kiwi Herring? I can only find information from sites that are obviously transphobic so I don’t want to take them with truth, so can anyone clarify?

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:21:28am

re: #281 Kragar

[Embedded content]

I started a personal MST3K marathon on Saturday…and I’m still watching.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:22:13am

re: #284 jaunte

The White House will solve it by denying that they know Texas.

Well, yeah. The rapid-response director is gone. Now everything will take days.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:22:17am

re: #283 klys (maker of Silmarils)

[Embedded content]

They’re saying the possibility is for close to Cat 4 at landfall. The official guidance is saying 12 to 20, with isolated areas of 30”.

NPR has interviewed Jen (WeatherGoddess) from Weather Channel—said don’t be surprised at record-breaking local rain totals.

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wrenchwench  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:22:48am

re: #286 b_sharp

Sad commentary on modern life when a Monty Python video gets only one upding.

Except for MY modern life!

I never knew Corgi racing could be so fulfilling.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:23:45am

re: #286 b_sharp

Sad commentary on modern life when a Monty Python video gets only one upding.

went up there and FTFY

(some of us have day jerbs…)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:24:00am

re: #223 wrenchwench

Phoenix. Where they WISH they knew what a ‘flood’ is. ‘Is that when the arroyos get so much water in them that you can SEE it?’

The house and property I lived in on the Rillito creek in Tucson got washed away in a flood in 1983…two days after I moved out.

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allegro  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:24:47am

re: #282 Ace Rothstein

Seriously, what would be the point of withholding that information? That would be criminal behavior and would lead to all kinds of liability. It even has the tone of a Facebook fake news post.

Indeed. If anything the news networks exaggerate the threat (see: Rita). We will have flooding, that’s a given. A lot of people in flood-prone areas are going to have a miserable weekend and a few morons are going to Darwin themselves. Happens every time. Otherwise, if the current path holds, there is no reason to freak.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:25:25am

“… “I hand-wrote almost identical short notes to each of the two candidates to accompany the first brief as President-elect; only one actually got deployed — the one to him.”

The note to Clinton, which went undelivered, congratulated her on her victory and said the intelligence community stood by to serve her with the best intelligence it could muster. The note to Trump said the same thing.

“I went on to say that I hoped he would abide by the long-standing principal of the IC always telling ‘truth to power,’” Clapper told CNN, noting that he was paraphrasing since he doesn’t have a copy of the note. …”

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wrenchwench  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:25:31am

re: #297 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The house and property I lived in on the Rillito creek in Tucson got washed away in a flood in 1983…two days after I moved out.

They know flooding in Tucson. They’ve seen the slot canyons.

301
Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:25:32am

“The fake news media is claiming I’m ignoring Texas, but that’s totally false! I totally won Texas last year and I’ll win it again next time!”

302
b_sharp  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:25:34am

re: #296 dangerman

went up there and FTFY

(some of us have day jerbs…)

I have a day jerb too, but it looks like I’m semi-retired now.

303
Ace Rothstein  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:26:20am

re: #298 allegro

Up here in my hood, is there any reason to get out of town?

304
wrenchwench  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:26:43am

re: #296 dangerman

went up there and FTFY

(some of us have day jerbs…)

Some of us do all our updinging AT our day jerbs.

305
dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:27:30am

re: #297 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The house and property I lived in on the Rillito creek in Tucson got washed away in a flood in 1983…two days after I moved out.

I misread that as two days later I moved out…

How..?? Where.?????

306
Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:29:19am

re: #279 dangerman

I wanna see a republican Congress override a republican presidential veto on a clean debt ceiling increase

This would be glorious.

Skuttlebutt here at deep-state central (all your food belong to me) is that the congress is so dysfunctional that the chance of overriding his veto (if he gets the balls to actually veto the budget) is slim. The freedumb caucus and others will fuck up an override vote and the gov will shut down and we won’t get paid ‘cause asshole-in-the-WH

307
Kragar  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:29:39am

re: #292 Targetpractice

I started a personal MST3K marathon on Saturday…and I’m still watching.

Starting with the original local show I hope.

308
Flying Squirrel Girl  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:30:29am

re: #290 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Given that the temperature of the water in the gulf is around 87 degrees, I expected it to intensify quickly.

Our house is in a neighborhood that is 20-30 feet above Corpus Christi Bay, and about 4 blocks away from the water. In May 2016 we got 12-16” of rain overnight, and our house/street/neighborhood did not flood. I’m not really worried about the house.

My work, however, is a different story. As I have mentioned before I work in an assisted living facility, and one of the wings of our building flooded during that storm. It took a full year for us to be back to normal and we lost a lot of residents immediately after and during the construction phase. Business-wise, we can’t take another hit like that.

All of the managers are required to be at the community starting tomorrow morning and we will stay here until the all clear is given. I don’t expect to go home until Sunday evening at the earliest. My executive director has said my husband and dogs can come here too, but he’d rather stay at the house to deal with anything that happens there.

309
Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:30:43am

re: #307 Kragar

Starting with the original local show I hope.

But of course.

310
whitebeach  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:31:03am

re: #265 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It’s better to get it all out of the way at once! Who wants to go through both a disaster and a disaster exercise? That’s two whole days devoted to this thing where you can just do the one and be like “see, it worked.”

If only they had synched it up like that for Katrina.

311
dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:31:16am

re: #299 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]James Clapper, who famously got caught lying to Congress, is now an authority on Donald Trump. Will he show you his beautiful letter to me?

Donald Trump, who famously just got a $25M settlement against him, is now an authority on, well everything. Will he show you his beautiful tax returns?

ps - i dont think “famously” means what you think it means

312
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:33:17am

re: #294 Decatur Deb

NPR has interviewed Jen (WeatherGoddess) from Weather Channel—said don’t be surprised at record-breaking local rain totals.

Easily. The record for single day in Houston is 10.34” from a slow-moving tropical storm back in the 1980s. This has the potential to be easily worse.

For easy reference for Lizards potentially in the area, here is the (experimental) storm surge inundation map. (I do not know if it is updated yet to account for the new, higher intensity expected.)

You can get some good info from the discussions - I’m linking the archive here so I can monitor the tone. The discussions are a little more technical but not overly so and the forecasters are a little less formal. When they start sounding worried in there, it’s legit. BTW, an excerpt from the 10am discussion included the words “quite concerning.” Also in the mix are “astounding” and “critical that users not focus on the exact forecast track.”

313
Dave In Austin  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:33:22am

I got fishing friends on the ground. I just heard mandatory evac for Calhoun country, Port Lavaca and other areas. This is going to be bad.

314
lawhawk  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:33:24am

re: #290 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Harvey was not expected to become a major hurricane before landfall as of yesterday. Today it is. Intensity forecasting is still one of the trickiest things for them when it comes to a hurricane.

From a flooding perspective, the biggest issue is that the track forecast (which they have gotten pretty good at) shows it potentially stalling just inland for two days. All that moisture goes somewhere.

I was watching yesterday and the potential flooding track had 2-3 feet of rain over a significant portion of SE Texas. Hurricane force winds wont affect flooding inland, but could add to the storm surge and coast flooding.

This is an extremely dangerous storm, and coastal residents should consider heading to higher ground.

315
dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:33:38am

re: #304 wrenchwench

Some of us do all our updinging AT our day jerbs.

I was implying that sometimes gasp we have to look away for a few minutes.
Answer a phone
True a spoke
Reconcile a bank

316
danarchy  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:33:59am

re: #291 electrotek

So what’s the deal with Kiwi Herring? I can only find information from sites that are obviously transphobic so I don’t want to take them with truth, so can anyone clarify?

I read an article about an incident at a protest this morning. It has a summary of the original incident.

cbsnews.com

317
electrotek  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:34:30am

Charleston update:

- Suspect is a disgruntled employee
- Shot 1
- Has some hostages at the restaurant

318
Sir John Barron  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:34:31am

re: #306 Colère Tueur de Lapin

This would be glorious.

Skuttlebutt here at deep-state central (all your food belong to me) is that the congress is so dysfunctional that the chance of overriding his veto (if he gets the balls to actually veto the budget) is slim. The freedumb caucus and others will fuck up an override vote and the gov will shut down and we won’t get paid ‘cause asshole-in-the-WH

I’m here at Deep State Periphery and not liking the talk about gov shutdown and no pay.

319
wrenchwench  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:34:43am

re: #308 Flying Squirrel Girl

Given that the temperature of the water in the gulf is around 87 degrees, I expected it to intensify quickly.

Our house is in a neighborhood that is 20-30 feet above Corpus Christi Bay, and about 4 blocks away from the water. In May 2016 we got 12-16” of rain overnight, and our house/street/neighborhood did not flood. I’m not really worried about the house.

My work, however, is a different story. As I have mentioned before I work in an assisted living facility, and one of the wings of our building flooded during that storm. It took a full year for us to be back to normal and we lost a lot of residents immediately after and during the construction phase. Business-wise, we can’t take another hit like that.

All of the managers are required to be at the community starting tomorrow morning and we will stay here until the all clear is given. I don’t expect to go home until Sunday evening at the earliest. My executive director has said my husband and dogs can come here too, but he’d rather stay at the house to deal with anything that happens there.

Musical accompaniment. Certainly no ‘light of it’ being made.

Randy Newman “Louisiana 1927”

320
allegro  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:34:45am

re: #303 Ace Rothstein

Up here in my hood, is there any reason to get out of town?

Montgomery County? No. Hunker down and stay safe.

I’m in SW Houston on a bayou so I know we’re going under in spots. My home is safe (the park sits high and in a motorhome I have another good foot of clearance) but I admit worrying about my car. I’ve never seen the water get that high here but…

321
calochortus  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:34:45am

re: #298 allegro

Indeed. If anything the news networks exaggerate the threat (see: Rita). We will have flooding, that’s a given. A lot of people in flood-prone areas are going to have a miserable weekend and a few morons are going to Darwin themselves. Happens every time. Otherwise, if the current path holds, there is no reason to freak.

On the other hand, they’re now saying the storm might actually move inland and then retrograde to pick up some strength and additional moisture to dump on what will be an already very, very wet area. Might not happen, but I’d suggest a lot of caution.

322
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:36:45am

re: #320 allegro

Montgomery County? No. Hunker down and stay safe.

I’m in SW Houston on a bayou so I know we’re going under in spots. My home is safe (the park sits high and in a motorhome I have another good foot of clearance) but I admit worrying about my car. I’ve never seen the water get that high here but…

It’s better to be safe and sheepish than sorry.

Cable news can absolutely overplay but the NWS and NHC are less inclined and using some of their strongest language on this.

323
Kragar  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:38:42am
324
wrenchwench  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:39:46am

re: #315 dangerman

I was implying that sometimes gasp we have to look away for a few minutes.
Answer a phone
True a spoke
Reconcile a bank

I go now to true a tire and put air in a rim.

Thanks for the reminder that Reality lurks out there. Don’t get many of those on days when I keep the door locked.

325
Decatur Deb  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:41:01am

re: #312 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Easily. The record for single day in Houston is 10.34” from a slow-moving tropical storm back in the 1980s. This has the potential to be easily worse.

For easy reference for Lizards potentially in the area, here is the (experimental) storm surge inundation map. (I do not know if it is updated yet to account for the new, higher intensity expected.)

You can get some good info from the discussions - I’m linking the archive here so I can monitor the tone. The discussions are a little more technical but not overly so and the forecasters are a little less formal. When they start sounding worried in there, it’s legit. BTW, an excerpt from the 10am discussion included the words “quite concerning.” Also in the mix are “astounding” and “critical that users not focus on the exact forecast track.”

I phrased that badly—the record she was discussing was 40”inches and change. Friend here asked if it will affect Alabama. I told her it already has, the deepwater wells and refineries are shutting down. (Here’s were we miss Reine.)

I’m typing with half of the unbandaged eye, the doc backed off the more serious surgery.

326
Sir John Barron  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:41:17am

re: #323 Kragar

UNPOSSIBLE

327
HappyWarrior  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:42:09am

re: #323 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Nah, it’s liberal secularism. //

328
allegro  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:42:26am

re: #321 calochortus

On the other hand, they’re now saying the storm might actually move inland and then retrograde to pick up some strength and additional moisture to dump on what will be an already very, very wet area. Might not happen, but I’d suggest a lot of caution.

Caution: absolutely. Preparation: oh yes. Freak? That kills people. Evacuation orders must be listened to and the rest of us need to stay out of the way so that can happen. (Still thinking about the horrors of hurricane Rita.)

329
Ace Rothstein  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:43:04am

Gallup Daily: Trump down to 34%.

330
Decatur Deb  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:43:21am

re: #327 HappyWarrior

Nah, it’s liberal secularism. //

Harvey is hitting Texas because Texas is in the way.

331
Dave In Austin  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:44:04am

When I fish the TX coast. I go to Port OcConner. I’m afraid it will be changed over the weekend

332
Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:44:08am

re: #329 Ace Rothstein

Gallup Daily: Trump down to 34%.

I really want to see the fucker drop below 30.

333
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:45:44am

re: #331 Dave In Austin

That’s what the barrier islands are there for.

334
jaunte  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:47:06am

Here’s a Google Maps link
google.com
to the road in front of the CBS affiliate near downtown Houston, KHOU TV. (1999 Allen Parkway). Pan around to get a sense of the volume of the basin that’s about to get filled up. When Hurricane Allison hit here, the water in Buffalo Bayou rose to the base of the building (to the left). It extended across the entire basin to the far road you can see (Memorial Drive). A huge volume of water. I fully expect it to be as high by Monday.

335
calochortus  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:49:12am

re: #328 allegro

Caution: absolutely. Preparation: oh yes. Freak? That kills people. Evacuation orders must be listened to and the rest of us need to stay out of the way so that can happen. (Still thinking about the horrors of hurricane Rita.)

Panic is never a good option.

336
whitebeach  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:49:49am

re: #322 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It’s better to be safe and sheepish than sorry.

Cable news can absolutely overplay but the NWS and NHC are less inclined and using some of their strongest language on this.

I’ve been through or on the edge of half a dozen or more hurricanes. Riding out a couple finally taught me that if you have a place to run to, run. Always. The very best you’re looking at if you stay is a long spell without electricity in steaming heat (hey, Texas in August). So my advice to people in Harvey’s path? Pack up, shut down the place, leave, preferably by tomorrow a.m.

337
Kragar  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:50:33am
338
lawhawk  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:51:06am

This latest nut Trump tweeted has showed up suddenly in a number of related feeds, so it seems that Travone has gone out of his way to be noticed, and Trump obliged.

339
lawhawk  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:53:21am

Meanwhile, we have right wing fixtures pushing baffling bullshit and their listeners don’t care. They don’t care that it’s easily debunked lies. They want worldview confirming lies.

They’re the snowflakes who refuse to admit they’ve been lied to all these years. They will never admit they’ve been duped.

340
Interesting Times  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:53:47am

re: #329 Ace Rothstein

Gallup Daily: Trump down to 34%.

34% is the new 27%.

341
Kragar  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:54:46am
342
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:55:10am

re: #336 whitebeach

I’ve been through or on the edge of half a dozen or more hurricanes. Riding out a couple finally taught me that if you have a place to run to, run. Always. The very best you’re looking at if you stay is a long spell without electricity in steaming heat (hey, Texas in August). So my advice to people in Harvey’s path? Pack up, shut down the place, leave, preferably by tomorrow a.m.

They’re saying winds will start arriving by tomorrow morning so your preparations need to be finished before then. If folks are planning on riding it out, the most recent spread of intensity forecasts I saw did have 1-2 starting to just hit cat 4, and the trend has been moving higher all day. Most still have it above tropical storm level for at least another 3 days. Some another 4. It’s going to be really hard to get power restored when the tropical storm is still sitting on top of you.

Something to consider when laying in supplies.

343
gocart mozart  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:57:24am

God knows it’s true

344
Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:58:14am

Shorter Mayor McComb “Hold My Beer”

345
Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:59:08am

re: #344 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

RIght and who will be the first folks screaming for government assistance AFTER the storm?

346
Stanley Sea  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:59:11am

Brutal

347
jaunte  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:59:18am

“I think people are smart enough to make their evacuation decisions & they don’t need the government telling them what to do.”

348
Decatur Deb  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:59:44am

re: #341 Kragar

[Embedded content]

In terms of immediate real-life consequences, that’s one of the stupidest, most irresponsible things a politician has ever said.

349
KGxvi  Aug 24, 2017 • 12:00:48pm

What are the odds that Trump vetoes either the debt limit increase or some various appropriations bills over his wall? And would the GOP finally pull the trigger on impeachment if Trump shut down the government like that?

350
unproven innocence  Aug 24, 2017 • 12:02:29pm

re: #348 Decatur Deb

In terms of immediate real-life consequences, that’s one of the stupidest, most irresponsible thing a politician has ever said.

It’s right up there with “No one really needs internet access.”

351
BeachDem  Aug 24, 2017 • 12:02:56pm

re: #253 electrotek

Angry white guy confirmed:

Edit: Nevermind /facepalm

Post and Courier wisely disabled comments.

352
Decatur Deb  Aug 24, 2017 • 12:04:11pm

re: #350 unproven innocence

It’s right up there with “No one really needs internet access.”

Yes, but perhaps a lot more instantaneous and hard to deny.

353
ObserverArt  Aug 24, 2017 • 12:04:17pm

re: #249 Dr. Matt

Trump shutting down the government to get US taxpayers money for his wall, that Mexico is actually supposed to pay for, would possibly be the biggest act of political suicide since H dubyah declaring “Read my lips: no new taxes”. Comically, his deplorable Nazi base will love Trump even more while ignoring the FACT that he wants to use US taxpayers money to pay for his wall.

Have they not been Taxed Enough Already???

Oh that’s right. the tea party types will be happy to build a stupid wall to keep Mexicans out. Anything else though and bitch, bitch, bitch.

354
dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 12:04:26pm

re: #344 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

[Embedded content]”I think people are smart enough to make their evacuation decisions & they don’t need the government telling them what to do.” -Mayor McComb

that there is how you abdicate responsibility
coordinating with other authorities and getting the word out is your job ya melonhead

355
dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 12:05:45pm

re: #346 Stanley Sea

Brutal

[Embedded content]

words/consequences

donald j. trump - the best example (ever) of the first amendment in action

356
dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 12:06:24pm

re: #347 jaunte

“I think people are smart enough to make their evacuation decisions & they don’t need the government telling them what to do.”

[Embedded content]

dude - you went viral
you got more updings than m. python

357
dangerman  Aug 24, 2017 • 12:14:17pm

re: #349 KGxvi

What are the odds that Trump vetoes either the debt limit increase or some various appropriations bills over his wall? And would the GOP finally pull the trigger on impeachment if Trump shut down the government like that?

i think they’d bend over backwards to override first - as they already would have passed the bill
that way they dont have to take a stand on anything requiring a spine

358
ObserverArt  Aug 24, 2017 • 12:15:22pm

re: #285 Ace Rothstein

So. How’s that beefing up at FEMA coming along?

Trump gets his big chance to manage a disaster. With the way his government is running I have a feeling that something will go wrong.

I hope the good people of Texas can get through this. I don’t think they can count on the Federal Government.

By the way, how is that Texas state piggybank? States rights and Abbott. Ugh.

359
Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 24, 2017 • 12:39:12pm

re: #129 mmmirele

Oh blergh.

More at the link, obviously, but OMG!

rightwingwatch.org

I had trouble peeling my hands away from my face long enough to type this post.

It’s time to tax these assholes!

360
Flying Squirrel Girl  Aug 24, 2017 • 12:41:03pm

re: #331 Dave In Austin

I was just there last weekend. They’ve seen their share of hurricanes, but don’t know about any of this scale.


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