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Dr. Matt  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:25:17pm

Look At This Dumbass:

Texas tea party Rep. Blake Farenthold (R), who represents an area that is directly in the path of Hurricane Harvey—and was also, unrelatedly, recently called “so unattractive it’s unbelievable” by Sen. Susan Collins, whom he offered to duel—just gave an interview on live television to discuss his district’s preparedness for what is expected to become a “life-threatening” Category 3 hurricane. Farenthold did not make a particularly convincing case, as he did not even seem to have an umbrella on hand.

“We’ve worked really hard to get ready here in Corpus Christi. The houses are boarded, people in low-lying areas are evacuated—now we’ve just gotta hunker down and see what happens,” Farenthold said, swirling tendrils of drenched combover clinging to his forehead.

Farenthold Totally Soaked by Hurricane Harvey

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:28:04pm

re: #1 Dr. Matt

Look At This Dumbass:

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Hey it’s Congressman Dennis Nedry.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:29:44pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:30:15pm

re: #3 FormerDirtDart

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Good luck?

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:30:50pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

Good luck?

Casino influence.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:32:11pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

Good luck?

It’s for Texans. The proper usage is “AMF”.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:32:52pm

re: #5 wrenchwench

Casino influence.

Yeah what a jsckass.

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Kilroy was here  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:33:11pm

re: #1 Dr. Matt

Tea Parties own Pajama the Hut

No seriously.. this is a Congressman..

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:33:36pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:34:51pm

The giveaway from Mark Lilla, the ‘Dems need to dump Identity Politics’ guy:

I’m pretty sure I know who he means by ‘American women’ in that context.

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jamesfirecat  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:35:32pm

re: #2 HappyWarrior

Hey it’s Congressman Dennis Nedry.

Congressman Flounder, except without Flounder’s well meaning nature.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:35:39pm

re: #8 Kilroy was here

Tea Parties own Pajama the Hut

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Her smile looks forced, as anyone’s might with a guy that creepy behind you.

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bratwurst  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:35:50pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:37:42pm

re: #13 bratwurst

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It’s like when Trump tells you he’s not going to say something and says it anyway in the course of saying he’s not going to say it.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:39:35pm

re: #8 Kilroy was here

Tea Parties own Pajama the Hut

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Posting that pic should be a bannable offense. ///

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darthstar  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:39:47pm

re: #8 Kilroy was here

Tea Parties own Pajama the Hut

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Where is she now I wonder…I assume she’s a paid attendee as nobody in their right mind goes to a pajama party in fuck-me wear…especially one with a mixed crowd that includes congressmen.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:40:01pm

To carry from last thread:

re: #427 Blind Frog Belly White

This! This! A thousand times, this!

It does a great job of encapsulating it, right down to admitting that you’ve been playing the game on easy makes your achievements less special.

Which I don’t entirely understand. I came from a very-low middle class family (reduced lunch level), and have worked my butt off. But, being white, I know I have gotten some breaks. I consider it a bad thing that I’ve had breaks that others haven’t, especially since I see upper middle class people who worked far less hard than I do get breaks, but it doesn’t tarnish my hard work. It means I need to understand that it wasn’t all my work and find ways to help those who haven’t had the advantages I’ve had and make sure they get the same privileges.

The thinking that your accomplishments are worth less only makes sense if you acknowledge that you’ve been slacking. Which yeah, a lot of these people have.

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plansbandc  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:40:01pm

OT, am enjoying the ridiculousness of the Tick. Hit the wall with politics particularly the inept way the orange bag and his merry fuckwits are dealing with impending disaster.

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Kilroy was here  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:41:29pm

re: #15 Dr. Matt

Posting that pic should be a bannable offense. ///

Just showing the proper respect to an elected Representative from the State of Texas

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:42:46pm

re: #16 darthstar

Where is she now I wonder…I assume she’s a paid attendee as nobody in their right mind goes to a pajama party in fuck-me wear…especially one with a mixed crowd that includes congressmen.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:43:59pm

re: #16 darthstar

Where is she now I wonder…I assume she’s a paid attendee as nobody in their right mind goes to a pajama party in fuck-me wear…especially one with a mixed crowd that includes congressmen.

That pose is also a “You don’t touch me, pajama boy. I will do all of the getting close.”

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TedStriker  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:44:02pm

re: #20 Dr Lizardo

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William Lewis  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:44:45pm

re: #20 Dr Lizardo

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:45:11pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

Good luck?

And may the odds be ever in your favor.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:45:33pm

re: #22 TedStriker

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darthstar  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:45:38pm

re: #20 Dr Lizardo

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:46:10pm

re: #23 William Lewis

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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:46:22pm
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Dr. Matt  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:48:30pm

re: #20 Dr Lizardo

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:50:56pm

re: #17 Belafon

To carry from last thread:

Which I don’t entirely understand. I came from a very-low middle class family (reduced lunch level), and have worked my butt off. But, being white, I know I have gotten some breaks. I consider it a bad thing that I’ve had breaks that others haven’t, especially since I see upper middle class people who worked far less hard than I do get breaks, but it doesn’t tarnish my hard work. It means I need to understand that it wasn’t all my work and find ways to help those who haven’t had the advantages I’ve had and make sure they get the same privileges.

The thinking that your accomplishments are worth less only makes sense if you acknowledge that you’ve been slacking. Which yeah, a lot of these people have.

The myth of the Self Made Man in American culture(WHITE American culture, anyway) runs really deep, deeper than most folks realize. It’s very hard to acknowledge any contribution of good fortune to one’s success.

I was discussing this with a Conservative, who told me nobody helped HIM! He’d gotten through college and law school on his won gumption!

Except it turned out his parents had paid for the college, so he didn’t have to try to work AND go to college, and they’d helped with the Law School, too. He couldn’t acknowledge that having a family well off enough to do that was a big contributor to his success.

Me? Man, I’ve lucked out my whole goddam life! I’ll readily admit it!

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:51:38pm
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:51:51pm

re: #29 Dr. Matt

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BeachDem  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:53:37pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

Good luck?

May the odds be ever in your favor?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:54:04pm

re: #22 TedStriker

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:54:41pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

Good luck?

May the odds be ever in your favor.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:55:20pm

Homeland Security Advisor Tom Bossert: Hurricane Harvey ‘Right Up President Trump’s Alley’

Bossert was asked about what President Donald Trump needs to project in order to lead the nation during the first natural disaster of his term.

“This is right up president Trump’s alley,” Bossert said. “Not only has he showed leadership here, but his entire focus has been on making America great again.”

A category three hurricane right up his alley?

Bossert moved past the awkward phrasing, and launched into full-throated praise of Trump.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:55:32pm

re: #8 Kilroy was here

Tea Parties own Pajama the Hut

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No seriously.. this is a Congressman..

Looks like Alfred E. Neumann got fat.

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:55:56pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:56:26pm

This whole thread is great, but particularly this tweet resonated given some of the shit I see go by from people who consider themselves “leftists” on Twitter (to be distinguished from liberals, who they all regard as useless, based on the tweets I see retweeted).

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:56:56pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:57:06pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

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Only one side ran people over and only one party is pushing legislation that makes it okay for people to run over protesters they don’t like.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:57:34pm

re: #36 Dr. Matt

Homeland Security Advisor Tom Bossert: Hurricane Harvey ‘Right Up President Trump’s Alley’

Trump wouldn’t know leadership if it bit his fat, ugly face.

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:57:34pm

re: #36 Dr. Matt

Trump’s great at taking disaster relief aid whether he needed it or not.

Or do these fuckers ignore that Trump got 9/11 relief meant for small businesses (and should have been excluded if he’s a goddamned billionaire except that Trump structures his businesses in such a way that each real estate enterprise is its own business/standalone so he can play with the books to minimize his tax exposure).

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Kilroy was here  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:57:55pm

re: #37 Big Beautiful Door

Looks like Alfred E. Neumann got fat.

He reminds me of Sheriff Pepper

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:58:21pm

Kelly will have the cell phone jammer erected within 15 minutes to block and foolish tweeting

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:59:00pm

re: #22 TedStriker

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:59:24pm

re: #39 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This whole thread is great, but particularly this tweet resonated given some of the shit I see go by from people who consider themselves “leftists” on Twitter (to be distinguished from liberals, who they all regard as useless, based on the tweets I see retweeted).

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I like the cut of her jib.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:01:14pm

re: #16 darthstar

Where is she now I wonder…I assume she’s a paid attendee as nobody in their right mind goes to a pajama party in fuck-me wear…especially one with a mixed crowd that includes congressmen.

Here’s an article about the party: houstonchronicle.com

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:02:23pm

re: #1 Dr. Matt

Look At This Dumbass:

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He looks like a Hee Haw reject.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:03:32pm

re: #8 Kilroy was here

Tea Parties own Pajama the Hut

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No seriously.. this is a Congressman..

This is totally a guy who has family values guys. //

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:03:35pm

Good news so for for us in Brookings, OR and the surrounding area affected by the Chetco Bar Fire; no Chetco Effect winds so far and IMO conditions do not favor them right now. Brookings was forecast to be lowered humidity and 80 degrees with the strong Chetco Effect winds from the NE. Right now it’s 60 in town, humidity is at 100% and winds are light (4 MPH/gusts to 8 MPH), from the S/SW at the airport north of town. NWS has dropped the high for today down to 67 (the usual lately) and is calling for light N/NW winds (around 6 MPH).

Temps in Grants Pass and Medford are way below what was forecast (GP was 90, currently 78, Medford was 95, currently 75) so inland temps around the fire should be lower too. May the good weather hold!!

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BeachDem  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:04:24pm

re: #39 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This whole thread is great, but particularly this tweet resonated given some of the shit I see go by from people who consider themselves “leftists” on Twitter (to be distinguished from liberals, who they all regard as useless, based on the tweets I see retweeted).

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You say you got a real solution
Well you know
We’d all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well you know
We’re doing what we can

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:04:34pm
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dangerman  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:04:43pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Only one side ran people over and only one party is pushing legislation that makes it okay for people to run over protesters they don’t like.

one side dressed up paramilitary and open carried guns

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William Lewis  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:05:04pm

re: #39 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This whole thread is great, but particularly this tweet resonated given some of the shit I see go by from people who consider themselves “leftists” on Twitter (to be distinguished from liberals, who they all regard as useless, based on the tweets I see retweeted).

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Bunch of those idiots that she’s dissing is why I am a leftist who considers the Democratic party the best long term hope for socialism. And why I stay away from Twitter in general. I’d spend all day ranting at those puritopian maroons (as Bugs would put it.)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:05:35pm

re: #47 HappyWarrior

I like the cut of her jib.

Meanwhile I keep seeing this retweeted and want to go bang my head into a wall. The concept of “realistic dreaming” versus “pipe dreaming” and how many people want to ignore the difference between the two is frustrating.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:06:00pm

re: #52 BeachDem

You say you got a real solution
Well you know
We’d all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well you know
We’re doing what we can

But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao,
You ain’t gonna make it with anyone anyhow.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:08:43pm

re: #56 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Meanwhile I keep seeing this retweeted and want to go bang my head into a wall. The concept of “realistic dreaming” versus “pipe dreaming” and how many people want to ignore the difference between the two is frustrating.

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I mean I would love universal health care and I’m sure it’s something Brian is sympathetic towards too (I don’t know him so I can’t speak for him) but it takes time. And that hypothetical bipartisan infrastructure bill could do as just much good too. And you’re right. There is a difference.

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William Lewis  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:10:13pm

re: #54 dangerman

one side dressed up paramilitary and open carried guns

Well, a couple of times lately both sides have shown up open carrying. Your first side really gets freaked out by being reminded that lefties own guns too… ;)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:10:14pm

Thing is the liberal pragmatic approach is what leads to long, lasting change. The leftist approach. Yeah you may get some temporary change but it’d be just as easy to reverse. I’ve become a pragmatic liberal because I’ve seen that the former is the much better way to go. Obviously, you have goals and set them but to use a baseball analogy, you don’t always swing for the fences.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:10:29pm

re: #55 William Lewis

Bunch of those idiots that she’s dissing is why I am a leftist who considers the Democratic party the best long term hope for socialism. And why I stay away from Twitter in general. I’d spend all day ranting at those puritopian maroons (as Bugs would put it.)

Politics on Twitter is to a large degree performative art. I don’t engage. If I make a statement, it’s because I feel that being silent isn’t acceptable, and I have no intention of discussing anything about it.

Honestly, I don’t think anything productive comes out of political “dialogue” on Twitter. Where I find it somewhat useful are the short/medium length threads that can share a story or provide a different point of view for consideration.

Mostly I use it for breaking news and non-political conversations with people.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:11:04pm

re: #59 William Lewis

Well, a couple of times lately both sides have shown up open carrying. Your first side really gets freaked out by being reminded that lefties own guns too… ;)

Because it goes against their idea of us being a bunch of pussies.That scares the crap out of them which is why as you know why Reagan supported the gun control legislation that he did.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:13:21pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

Thing is the liberal pragmatic approach is what leads to long, lasting change. The leftist approach. Yeah you may get some temporary change but it’d be just as easy to reverse. I’ve become a pragmatic liberal because I’ve seen that the former is the much better way to go. Obviously, you have goals and set them but to use a baseball analogy, you don’t always swing for the fences.

Yep, if Obama had demanded single payer in 2009, nothing would’ve passed, and tens of millions of people who have healthcare coverage now wouldn’t.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:14:18pm

re: #56 klys (maker of Silmarils)

My Idiot Sister seems to think that hating Hillary Clinton for insufficient ideological purity is some kind of badge of honor.

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:15:37pm

re: #64 Blind Frog Belly White

My Idiot Sister seems to think that hating Hillary Clinton for insufficient ideological purity is some kind of badge of honor.

There’s a lot of that going around, or believing that she’s still the greater of the two evils between her and Trump, let alone Hillary and Bernie.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:20:29pm

re: #63 Big Beautiful Door

Yep, if Obama had demanded single payer in 2009, nothing would’ve passed, and tens of millions of people who have healthcare coverage now wouldn’t.

Exactly. And Obama knew this too. It’s too bad that there’s a large segment of the left that doesn’t get this. ACA shouldn’t be the journey. It should be the start. They ignore that a lot of the health care systems they want us to emulate were done incremental as well.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:21:28pm

re: #64 Blind Frog Belly White

My Idiot Sister seems to think that hating Hillary Clinton for insufficient ideological purity is some kind of badge of honor.

Same thing with a lot of my far left buddies. Took the opportunity to rag on HRC for having the nerve to have a book tour. She’s damned if she doesn’t with these people but they don’t care about Sanders doing his tacky Town Halls which are obviously a head start for 2020.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:22:30pm

re: #65 lawhawk

There’s a lot of that going around, or believing that she’s still the greater of the two evils between her and Trump, let alone Hillary and Bernie.

The left is our own worst enemy. Quite frankly, it’s how we got the original Nazis in part. The KPD (German Communist Party) hated the center-left (SPD) so much that they sabotaged them by calling them social fascists.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:22:47pm

re: #67 HappyWarrior

Same thing with a lot of my far left buddies. Took the opportunity to rag on HRC for having the nerve to have a book tour. She’s damned if she doesn’t with these people but they don’t care about Sanders doing his tacky Town Halls which are obviously a head start for 2020.

Just what we need; an octogenarian presidential candidate.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:23:47pm

Here’s a little break from politics…..a story from the Willamette Week about one of the last Blockbuster Video locations still open for business in Sandy, Oregon:

Every once in a while, at the Blockbuster in Sandy, Ore., a car will park in front of the store, snap a picture and drive away.

“They’re like, ‘You guys are still around?,” says Alexis Phelps, an employee since March.

The Sandy Blockbuster is one of about 10 Blockbusters left in the world. The video rental franchise filed for bankruptcy in 2010, and the interior of the store seems to have frozen in time. Seven-year-old neon signs advertise Xbox 360 games. The screens play Lilo & Stitch. Today, the aisles are mostly empty, even with rows of new DVD releases (this week it’s King Arthur: Legend of the Sword) lining the walls. The only other person in the store is Phelps, who starts each morning on the job by calling customers to tell them their rentals are late.

“Some people don’t even answer,” she says. “Which I’m cool with.”

wweek.com

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Dr. Matt  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:24:21pm

re: #64 Blind Frog Belly White

My Idiot Sister seems to think that hating Hillary Clinton for insufficient ideological purity is some kind of badge of honor.

Voting because of “insufficient ideological purity” allowing Trump to get elected is a Badge of Idiocy.

No offense to your sis.

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dangerman  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:25:03pm

the d, left, liberal goal/motto/position should be “liberty and justice for all”

it’s simple and clear
and it parses well

liberty means freedom to mostly do what you want and be left alone
justice means fairness and proportional equity in all things
for all means everyone’s included - we all put in and we all get out

any spin or twisted interpretation to exclude or gain unfair advantage is downright unamerican - it’s the pledge of allegiance fer cryin out loud

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:26:03pm

re: #69 Big Beautiful Door

Just what we need; an octogenarian presidential candidate.

He’s old enough to be my mom’s father and my mom is a grandmother. But yeah it’s a terrible look for a party/ideology that sells itself as the ideology and party of the future.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:27:46pm

re: #65 lawhawk

There’s a lot of that going around, or believing that she’s still the greater of the two evils between her and Trump, let alone Hillary and Bernie.

It’s all Hillary’s fault for being insufficiently liberal AND for not saving us from Trump. We the electorate bear no responsibility for it. My vote has to be EARNED!!
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Seriously, though - my Idiot Brother claims you can’t blame Bush’s victory in 2000 on Nader, because Gore lost Tennessee - his home state. You see, it was up to Gore to win voters over. Voters bear no responsibility for the consequences of their votes.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:28:05pm

And just on cue guys, the FL I know is whining about the center-left getting on them for refusing to vote for Clinton. Well guys, you see how fucked up Trump is and still complain. Maybe just maybe you were wrong. Here’s the thing. Flawed as I find Bernie, I would have still supported, voted, and defended him if he were the nominee. He has his problems but they’re nothing compared to Trump’s.

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JordanRules  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:28:23pm
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dangerman  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:28:42pm

re: #71 Dr. Matt

Voting because of “insufficient ideological purity” allowing Trump to get elected is a Badge of Idiocy.

No offense to your sis.

they want what they want and dont seem to care or understand how politics works in the real world

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:29:28pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

The Hill ✔ @thehill
GOP considering resolution condemning both sides of Charlottesville violence hill.cm
2:10 PM - Aug 25, 2017

Go on ahead.

They will satisfy some of their base for sure, but the way many Republicans had problems with Trump’s “both sides” explanation of the events, they will be further pissing off all those people that suddenly found themselves as Independents (still R’s really) as well as the GOP folks that think Trump was full of it…like the Anna Navarro types.

The GOP keeps destroying themselves the more they try to keep Trump’s base and try to normalize him.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:30:36pm

re: #74 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s all Hillary’s fault for being insufficiently liberal AND for not saving us from Trump. We the electorate bear no responsibility for it. My vote has to be EARNED!!
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Seriously, though - my Idiot Brother claims you can’t blame Bush’s victory in 2000 on Nader, because Gore lost Tennessee - his home state. You see, it was up to Gore to win voters over. Voters bear no responsibility for the consequences of their votes.

What’s equally frustrating is how they just expect us to accept their view. They (the far left) have a very autocratic way about them and that’s why in part from how unpractical they are, why I hope they don’t prevail. My ideal would be something to the left of Obama and Clinton but at the same time welcoming to those who are like them and aware of geographic and general geopolitical complexities while at the same time forming a general idea of what we’re for and against as a party and ideology.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:31:04pm

re: #76 JordanRules

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Ooooh shade.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:31:30pm

re: #71 Dr. Matt

Voting because of “insufficient ideological purity” allowing Trump to get elected is a Badge of Idiocy.

No offense to your sis.

None taken.

She voted for Clinton, but, Holy Hannah, did she complain about it! Loudly and frequently! And said, “If ONE MORE Clinton supporter tells me I have to vote for Clinton, or we’ll get Trump, I swear I’ll vote for Stein!!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:32:40pm

re: #1 Dr. Matt

Also expect pundits to spin this as “People who live here should be aware of the risks associated with the region and not be reliant on government to bail them out.”.

Because freedom.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:32:41pm

re: #81 Blind Frog Belly White

None taken.

She voted for Clinton, but, Holy Hannah, did she complain about it! Loudly and frequently! And said, “If ONE MORE Clinton supporter tells me I have to vote for Clinton, or we’ll get Trump, I swear I’ll vote for Stein!!”

I think in a way a lot of them are okay with the situation we’re in now because they stupidly think this will help them get the more far left they want. All I can say is be careful of what you wish for. BTW Susan Sarandon sure is quiet these days as is Jill Stein. Wondder fucking why.

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dangerman  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:35:41pm

re: #72 dangerman

the d, left, liberal goal/motto/position should be “liberty and justice for all”

it’s simple and clear
and it parses well

liberty means freedom to mostly do what you want and be left alone
justice means fairness and proportional equity in all things
for all means everyone’s included - we all put in and we all get out

any spin or twisted interpretation to exclude or gain unfair advantage is downright unamerican - it’s the pledge of allegiance fer cryin out loud

you build your policies on and around that

if you dont have liberty and justice for all, you make moves to get closer to it

how fast you move is a function of the current state of affairs
sometimes you get to move fast, or big.
usually you move incrementally, pragmatically, and slowly, so its permanent

politics (not policy) *is* the art of what’s possible in the circumstances
accept that or you’ll not be successful

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:36:53pm

The most maddening though is their lie about the Democratic party moving to the right. When I was a kid guys, we had Democrats that were anti-gay, anti-choice, etc. Last year we had by far the most Progressive platform in the DNC’s history. One that John Lewis and Barney Frank helped to draft. And it still wasn’t good enough. The BBs want the Dems to stop playing “identity politics.” Easy for their guy to say when he represents one of the least diverse states in the Union. There’s nothing wrong with Vermont. I’m sure it’s a lovely state but the racial realities that exist in our more diverse cities and states are a legitimate concern to many in our base.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:39:39pm

re: #56 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Meanwhile I keep seeing this retweeted and want to go bang my head into a wall. The concept of “realistic dreaming” versus “pipe dreaming” and how many people want to ignore the difference between the two is frustrating.

What we’re seeing right now with Trump is the consequence of people on the left and the right thinking that they have to hold on to their purity. People on the left who decided that Clinton and Democrats weren’t pure enough. People on the right who thought that Trump represented their pure conservative interests. In both cases their purity blinded them to how government works.

The only difference between the two sides is that Republicans have made purity their party platform, but it’s a purity not too different from blood purity.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:39:42pm

re: #77 dangerman

they want what they want and dont seem to care or understand how politics works in the real world

The Tea Party started by putting up their ideologically pure Primary candidates for races at all levels of government, all over the map. They won some, and they lost some, but as soon as the Primary was over, WHOEVER was nominated became THEIR candidate, and they all showed up and voted for the Republican.

Next time, they won a few more, but still they showed up and voted for whichever Republican had won the Primary.

Four election cycles later, and the Tea Party IS the GOP.

What does the Left do? Do they put up candidates at all levels? No. They want to choose the Presidential candidate, and they’ll take their dolls and dishes and go home if they don’t get their way. And they won’t show up for the Mid Term elections.

I have said this again and again. I feel like the voice that cryeth in the wilderness.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:40:38pm

re: #8 Kilroy was here

Tea Parties own Pajama the Hut

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No seriously.. this is a Congressman..

The one on the left? I’m Ok with that.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:41:01pm

Far left gets mad that some people use the term “alt-left” and say that the ‘establishment’ is at fault that Donald Trump picked it up and used it to attack them. Or something like that, I didn’t quite follow the argument.

Far left also working to make “liberal” a pejorative.

Here, let’s watch a gif of a hurricane strengthening instead.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:42:39pm

re: #87 Blind Frog Belly White

The Tea Party started by putting up their ideologically pure Primary candidates for races at all levels of government, all over the map. They won some, and they lost some, but as soon as the Primary was over, WHOEVER was nominated became THEIR candidate, and they all showed up and voted for the Republican.

Next time, they won a few more, but still they showed up and voted for whichever Republican had won the Primary.

Four election cycles later, and the Tea Party IS the GOP.

What does the Left do? Do they put up candidates at all levels? No. They want to choose the Presidential candidate, and they’ll take their dolls and dishes and go home if they don’t get their way. And they won’t show up for the Mid Term elections.

I have said this again and again. I feel like the voice that cryeth in the wilderness.

Exactly. I could respect them almost if they were willing to do the local work for it. I wouldn’t agree with their lack of pragmatism but at least I’d be able to respect that tehy were trying to build something. The Left thinks it’s the Presidency or bust. The TP and much as I dislike the assholes had the right approach. It’s why the GOP first gained the House in 2010, then the Senate in 2014, and the Presidency last year. Meanwhile the lefties I know are still busy either re-fighting the 2016 primary or even worse holding grudges about votes made in the Bush years.

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electrotek  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:42:47pm

A man was arrested for assaulting police in London outside Buckingham Palace.

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Kragar  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:45:00pm

This is as close as I ever seen to a SecDef blatantly calling out a President

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:46:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:46:32pm

re: #92 Kragar

This is as close as I ever seen to a SecDef blatantly calling out a President

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I still think Mattis only has the job he has because Trump liked his nickname. Mattis is more hawkish than I’d like but he has more integrity in his little finger than the rest of the administration.

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Kragar  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:48:52pm

re: #94 HappyWarrior

I think Mattis is one of the few who actually does stay for the good of the country.

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MsJ  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:50:32pm

So John Kasich is going to primary Trump as a moderate.

We’re so fucked. Moderate. JFC.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:50:56pm

re: #95 Kragar

I think Mattis is one of the few who actually does stay for the good of the country.

I do too. I think he saw it as his duty to serve as Sec-Def when Trump asked him to. As I said, he’s more hawkish than I personally would be but I appreciate that his commitment on climate change and his support for equality of everyone fighting in the armed forces. It’d be his memoirs of anyone in the Trump administration I’d read.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:51:14pm

re: #96 MsJ

So John Kasich is going to primary Trump as a moderate.

We’re so fucked. Moderate. JFC.

Good luck with that one John.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:52:48pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

Good luck with that one John.

Well, behaviorally moderate, anyway. Compared to Trump, that is. Low bar.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:52:54pm

Is this his granddaughter or a hostage?

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CongoJack  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:55:21pm

re: #100 I Would Prefer Not To

Is this his granddaughter or a hostage?

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Good lord her hands are almost as big as his. Tiny fingered vulgarian indeed.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:57:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:58:33pm

re: #99 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, behaviorally moderate, anyway. Compared to Trump, that is. Low bar.

Which really is a low bar.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:59:02pm

re: #102 Charles Johnson

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That’s literally the definition of racism.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:00:17pm

re: #102 Charles Johnson

Well, Chuck, you’re not in the smart group.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:00:35pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:02:08pm

re: #76 JordanRules

The Hill ✔ @thehill
Ex-Obama spokesperson: Trump’s staff thinks he’s “too stupid to figure out that Infowars is garbage” hill.cm
3:52 PM - Aug 25, 2017

If this is even 20% true he is a bigger idiot than I ever thought.

I thought he used InfoWars for the votes and that he is a bigot and racist and could play along.

If he actually believes that crap he is too far gone to be helped.

That would also mean he wasn’t a birther for political gain…he actually thinks it is true.

Wow.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:03:06pm

Huh? I’d say “dead” is pretty solidly definitive of condition.

Facebook Post

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:05:14pm
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MsJ  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:05:34pm

re: #99 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, behaviorally moderate, anyway. Compared to Trump, that is. Low bar.

That’s a bar that’s far below ground and covered with cement. It’s rebar.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:06:44pm

re: #110 MsJ

That’s a bar that’s far below ground and covered with cement. It’s rebar.

It’s a bar people can’t walk into.
///////

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:09:19pm

re: #100 I Would Prefer Not To

Is this his granddaughter or a hostage?

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Look how she is making a fist when he holds her hand. Mamma must have taught her to do that.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:10:35pm

re: #86 Belafon

What we’re seeing right now with Trump is the consequence of people on the left and the right thinking that they have to hold on to their purity. People on the left who decided that Clinton and Democrats weren’t pure enough. People on the right who thought that Trump represented their pure conservative interests. In both cases their purity blinded them to how government works.

The only difference between the two sides is that Republicans have made purity their party platform, but it’s a purity not too different from blood purity.

Why does your comment make me think of the old debate on the thinking behind “participation awards?”

I guess maybe it creates a feeling of never having lost at anything, you never won either, but hey…you are special because you participated.

Therefore, input after actually having lost (bigly!) in an election is that you still have a voice in this because your guy was better and everyone better listen to me, because I was right!

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BeachDem  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:11:17pm

re: #67 HappyWarrior

Same thing with a lot of my far left buddies. Took the opportunity to rag on HRC for having the nerve to have a book tour. She’s damned if she doesn’t with these people but they don’t care about Sanders doing his tacky Town Halls which are obviously a head start for 2020.

Did they say anything when Bernie did his book tour last November/December?

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:14:02pm

re: #112 The Vicious Babushka

The real estate investor with daughter as gold-leafed accessory.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:14:45pm

re: #114 BeachDem

Did they say anything when Bernie did his book tour last November/December?

Of course not.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:16:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:17:33pm

re: #117 jaunte

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Thanks Obama. //

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:17:39pm

Trump Rolls Back Obama-Era Flood Standards For Infrastructure Projects

“…Speaking at Trump Tower in New York City, Trump said, “We’re going to get infrastructure built quickly, inexpensively, relatively speaking, and the permitting process will go very, very quickly.” Few details were revealed in that news conference, but the text of the order has since been published and it specifically revokes Obama’s flood risk rules.

Supporters say the Obama flood rules would protect lives, by positioning new roads and buildings on safer ground, and protect financial investments by ensuring that infrastructure projects last as long as they were intended. Some business advocates have objected, saying the new rules would increase the cost of new construction.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:18:33pm

Most recent weather discussion on Harvey is …not great.

After that, the track models insist that the hurricane will slow down considerably during the next 24 hours, and it is likely to move very little between 36 and 120 hours. In fact, there has been a somewhat notable change in the guidance, with very few of the models showing Harvey lifting out toward the northeast by the end of the 5-day forecast period. As a result, the NHC track forecast has been pulled back a bit and keeps Harvey near or just inland of the Texas coast through the middle of next week. This slow motion only exacerbates the heavy rainfall and flooding threat across southern and southeastern Texas.

Isolated amount totals are now potentially pushing 40”.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:18:49pm

Good luck living downstream from your “relatively inexpensive” dam.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:20:13pm

re: #119 jaunte

Trump Rolls Back Obama-Era Flood Standards For Infrastructure Projects

“…Speaking at Trump Tower in New York City, Trump said, “We’re going to get infrastructure built quickly, inexpensively, relatively speaking, and the permitting process will go very, very quickly.” Few details were revealed in that news conference, but the text of the order has since been published and it specifically revokes Obama’s flood risk rules.

Supporters say the Obama flood rules would protect lives, by positioning new roads and buildings on safer ground, and protect financial investments by ensuring that infrastructure projects last as long as they were intended. Some business advocates have objected, saying the new rules would increase the cost of new construction.”

It really is seemingly little things like this that separate the two parties. Note not saying these are minor things but these are definitely not the things that people think enough about and that’s a shame.

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BeachDem  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:20:31pm

re: #96 MsJ

So John Kasich is going to primary Trump as a moderate.

We’re so fucked. Moderate. JFC.

I read somewhere last night that they’re considering a Kasich/Hickenlooper ticket.

JFC on a cracker with a side of guac.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:21:17pm

re: #119 jaunte

“We’re going to get infrastructure built quickly, inexpensively, relatively speaking, and the permitting process will go very, very quickly.”

I read that, and immediately thought, “Monorail!”

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:22:08pm

re: #96 MsJ

So John Kasich is going to primary Trump as a moderate.

We’re so fucked. Moderate. JFC.

Ohio Johnny! He is going to run again. Fucker’s head got big last year being “the man that stood up to Trump and never buckled.”

Interestingly another Ohioan is making noise about running for the Democrat ticket.

Representative Tim Ryan from the Ohio District around Youngstown/Warren…Ohio Trump country (at least Bigly Donny thinks it is).

I’ve heard him mentioned on Ohio news in the last week or so.

Maybe we have an all-Ohio candidate election in 2020.*

Here he is giving a classic “we’ll see” answer as to whether he will try a run.

Rep. Tim Ryan not ruling out presidential run

* I’m joking, but who the hell knows.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:22:21pm

re: #123 BeachDem

I read somewhere last night that they’re considering a Kasich/Hickenlooper ticket.

JFC on a cracker with a side of guac.

Yeah I heard that. I don’t know anything about Hickenlooper but as a two term governor of a purple state, he should be using his resume to try get himself places in Dem politics not to be second fiddle to Kasich. Kasich may not be Trump but you and ObserverArt have educated all of us here at LGF that he’s a snake.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:23:23pm

re: #125 ObserverArt

Ohio Johnny! He is going to run again. Fucker’s head got big last year being “the man that stood up to Trump and never buckled.”

Interestingly another Ohioan is making noise about running for the Democrat ticket.

Representative Tim Ryan from the Ohio District around Youngstown/Warren…Ohio Trump country (at least Bigly Donny thinks it is).

I’ve heard him mentioned on Ohio news in the last week or so.

Maybe we have an all-Ohio candidate election in 2020.*

Here he is giving a classic “we’ll see” answer as to whether he will try a run.

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* I’m joking, but who the hell knows.

Ryan would be an interesting candidate. Kind of wish he had ran for a higher position first though but he’s been in office awhile IIRC.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:23:31pm

re: #6 Decatur Deb

I learned what AMF meant back in the 70’s when I heard my new boss say it to an angry customer as they were leaving the shop. I asked him what it meant and lmao that he had said it in such a pleasant sounding manner that the customer didn’t notice it.

I’ve dropped more than a few pleasant AMFs on unsuspecting a-holes over the years.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:24:47pm

re: #121 jaunte

Good luck living downstream from your “relatively inexpensive” dam.

Like in Johnstown, PA, where the flooding was directly tied to a poorly constructed and non-maintained damn creating a lake for rich people to vacation at?

The Johnstown Flood (locally, the Great Flood of 1889) occurred on May 31, 1889, after the catastrophic failure of the South Fork Dam on the Little Conemaugh River 14 miles (23 km) upstream of the town of Johnstown, Pennsylvania. The dam broke after several days of extremely heavy rainfall, releasing 14.55 million cubic meters of water [4] (16 million US tons) from the reservoir known as Lake Conemaugh. With a volumetric flow rate that temporarily equaled the average flow rate of the Mississippi River,[5] 2,209 people[6], according to one account, lost their lives, and the flood accounted for US$17 million of damage (about $453 million in 2010 dollars[3]).

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Lidane  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:25:01pm

Holy schnikes it’s a madhouse out there.

Saw some rain earlier and Harvey is going to be a total shitstorm when it finally hits, so I left the office to work from home. I decided to stop by HEB (grocery store chain here in Texas, if you didn’t know) for a couple of last-minute things and the freakouts over the weather led to this being the carts section:

I’m stocked up and shut in my house now for the weekend, but this is just nuts. I hope any Lizards in Houston are safe. If Austin is this nuts I can’t imagine what it’s like on the coast right now.

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CongoJack  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:25:09pm

re: #123 BeachDem

I read somewhere last night that they’re considering a Kasich/Hickenlooper ticket.

JFC on a cracker with a side of guac.

I dont see that happening. Hickenlooper is not built for it (speaking as a Coloradoan). Unless he is going to push for legal weed everywhere (though he fought legal weed here in the beginning) I don’t see even Colorado jumping on board that train.

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:25:31pm
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MsJ  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:25:51pm

re: #126 HappyWarrior

Yeah I heard that. I don’t know anything about Hickenlooper but as a two term governor of a purple state, he should be using his resume to try get himself places in Dem politics not to be second fiddle to Kasich. Kasich may not be Trump but you and ObserverArt have educated all of us here at LGF that he’s a snake.

He’s Christie with a bit of Midwest charm. Until you say something he doesn’t like. Then he IS Christie. Here’s a real asshole.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:28:00pm

re: #129 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Like in Johnstown, PA, where the flooding was directly tied to a poorly constructed and non-maintained damn creating a lake for rich people to vacation at?

Yep, that’s why I’m so bothered by this. My mom’s parents grew up in Johnstown. And family lore even holds that one of my dad’s mom’s great aunts survived the Great Flood of ‘89.

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MsJ  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:28:18pm

re: #133 MsJ

He’s Christie with a bit of Midwest charm. Until you say something he doesn’t like. Then he IS Christie. Here’s a real asshole.

Why does my phone always change he’s to here’s? I hate autocorrect.

That is all.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:28:20pm

Whomp. This one was particularly nasty. But they’ll be back and they’ll be bragging about it too.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:29:05pm

re: #127 HappyWarrior

Ryan would be an interesting candidate. Kind of wish he had ran for a higher position first though but he’s been in office awhile IIRC.

SInce 2003.

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Lidane  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:29:11pm

re: #123 BeachDem

I read somewhere last night that they’re considering a Kasich/Hickenlooper ticket.

JFC on a cracker with a side of guac.

If they’re talking about running as an independent ticket, that’s a non-starter. They’d have to get signatures on all 50 states to get on all the ballots, which will take massive levels of organization. Also, independent and third-party candidates don’t qualify for matching funds from the FEC until after they’ve already run one election and gotten over a certain percentage of popular support.

If Kasich thinks he can have a unity ticket as a Republican nominee, he’s delusional. Ain’t happening.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:29:36pm

re: #136 GlutenFreeJesus

Good, I reported that one. Nice to see it occasionally works.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:30:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:30:33pm

re: #137 ObserverArt

SInce 2003.

Yeah. Honestly surprised he hasn’t gone for anything since. That’s Trafficant’s old seat isn’t it?

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BeachDem  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:31:06pm

re: #125 ObserverArt

Ohio Johnny! He is going to run again. Fucker’s head got big last year being “the man that stood up to Trump and never buckled.”

Interestingly another Ohioan is making noise about running for the Democrat ticket.

Representative Tim Ryan from the Ohio District around Youngstown/Warren…Ohio Trump country (at least Bigly Donny thinks it is).

I’ve heard him mentioned on Ohio news in the last week or so.

Maybe we have an all-Ohio candidate election in 2020.*

Here he is giving a classic “we’ll see” answer as to whether he will try a run.

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* I’m joking, but who the hell knows.

Well, you can all turn green with envy, because I’m going to get to see the only thus far declared Dem for 2020—John Delaney (I had to look up his name). He’s the “big name” speaker at our county fund-raising dinner. Should sell a whole bunch of tickets/// (I wanted to try to get Celia Rivenbark, but the committee didn’t seem all that interested.)

I can understand (sort of) the Dems cogitating about who to run in 2020, but has there ever been a time before when the party holding the White House has made so much noise about primarying a sitting president 7 months into his first term?

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:31:35pm

re: #107 ObserverArt

That would also mean he wasn’t a birther for political gain…he actually thinks it is true.

Wow.

But Hillary started it, and he finished it.
/

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BlueGrl21  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:31:41pm

re: #130 Lidane

Holy schnikes it’s a madhouse out there.

Saw some rain earlier and Harvey is going to be a total shitstorm when it finally hits, so I left the office to work from home. I decided to stop by HEB (grocery store chain here in Texas, if you didn’t know) for a couple of last-minute things and the freakouts over the weather led to this being the carts section:

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I’m stocked up and shut in my house now for the weekend, but this is just nuts. I hope any Lizards in Houston are safe. If Austin is this nuts I can’t imagine what it’s like on the coast right now.

We’re settled in with food, water, and generator. Not in any kind of flood zone but the streets to get out of our neighborhood will flood. No groceries until it goes down.

Now, we just wait.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:33:45pm

re: #142 BeachDem

Well, you can all turn green with envy, because I’m going to get to see the only thus far declared Dem for 2020—John Delaney (I had to look up his name). He’s the “big name” speaker at our county fund-raising dinner. Should sell a whole bunch of tickets/// (I wanted to try to get Celia Rivenbark, but the committee didn’t seem all that interested.)

I can understand (sort of) the Dems cogitating about who to run in 2020, but has there ever been a time before when the party holding the White House has made so much noise about primarying a sitting president 7 months into his first term?

This whole past seven months has been a month of firsts. No reason to think the next 3 years won’t be either. Honestly, I don’t know who the best Dem to go up against Trump in 2020 is. I’d honestly like to see O’Malley give another go at it. I know he disappointed last time and he does have problems. I echoed Frank’s suggestion of Tammy Duckworth to one of my aunts the other day though and she loved the idea. We both agreed that Tammy in many ways is the Anti-Trump in that she’s intelligent, compassionate, and tough as hell.

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BeachDem  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:33:59pm

re: #127 HappyWarrior

Ryan would be an interesting candidate. Kind of wish he had ran for a higher position first though but he’s been in office awhile IIRC.

Well, he did try to oust Nancy Pelosi from her leadership role. That didn’t go that well.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:34:36pm

I’m definitely not enthused about a Sanders redux and that’s not even considering 2016. I just do not want a 80 year old nominee. I’m sorry but that’s too old especially for someone whose support system I would worry about.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:34:51pm

re: #146 BeachDem

Well, he did try to oust Nancy Pelosi from her leadership role. That didn’t go that well.

Yeah it didn’t.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:35:14pm

re: #144 BlueGrl21

We’re settled in with food, water, and generator. Not in any kind of flood zone but the streets to get out of our neighborhood will flood. No groceries until it goes down.

Now, we just wait.

Stay safe you and everyone else in the path.

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BeachDem  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:35:53pm

re: #133 MsJ

He’s Christie with a bit of Midwest charm. Until you say something he doesn’t like. Then he IS Christie. Here’s a real asshole.

Only with a little more jeebus.

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Cheechako  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:36:25pm

Time for some sobering thoughts about Hurricane Harvey.

In the aftermath of a major disaster, the Federal Government has multiple “National Incident Management Teams” to assist in response. Primarily these teams are used in managing wild-land fires but have been used in NYC after 9/11, searching for debris after the Challenger disaster, and throughout the affected area after Hurricane Katrina.

Currently there are 16 Type 1 Teams and about 35 Type 2Teams. As of last night, 9 of the 16 Type 1 Teams and 21 of the Type 2 Teams were committed to wild-land fires in the West. Also committed were 412 twenty person crews and 153 helicopters. There was a total of 19,569 individuals committed to the wildfires as of last night.

In the short term, none of these teams and individuals will be available for disaster assistance in Texas in the immediate future.

Prior to Hurricane Katrine, the Government staged about 6 Type 1 Teams in the large cities in the States where Katrina was predicted to come ashore. This was intended to reduce the response time one the hurricane came ashore.

After Katrina dissipated, these Type 1 and 2 Teams were used to manage evacuation centers, for search and rescue, and road clearing. The wild-land fire crews were exceptional for road and access clearing due to their skills using chain saws.

I worked for a month with a Type 2 Team managing the evacuation center at the former Kelly AFB in San Antonio. We had upwards of 10,000 to 15,000 evacuees each day. That’s a lot of people to house and feed in one place but with the help of a lot of outside agencies we pulled it off.

It is my understanding the current FEMA has not prepositioned any of these Teams for Harvey. Yes, FEMA does have their own Incident Management Teams but I have doubts about their ability to perform.

The point I’m trying to make is that, today, many of the experienced disaster response personnel are already committed to wildfire. It appears nothing has been done to prepare for the upcoming disaster.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:36:36pm

Lobbyists trying to scare people about a “climate change cabal.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:38:24pm

re: #152 jaunte

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Lobbyists trying to scare people about a “climate change cabal.”

This is like when some gun nut kills a bunch of people, and the NRA rushes out to say it’s not about guns.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:38:26pm

Heartland Institute says they will be praying for Texas.

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:39:28pm

Had a visitor from Houston in here a couple hours ago. He and someone (he kept saying ‘we’, without any details) are planning to move here soon, but they have to go back to their jobs for a bit before they move. Their airline allowed them to make the return flight a little later than tomorrow’s scheduled return.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:39:28pm

re: #153 Blind Frog Belly White

This is like when some gun nut kills a bunch of people, and the NRA rushes out to say it’s not about guns.

And demonizes critics.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:40:23pm

re: #151 Cheechako

I do expect this to be a clusterfuck. I’m hoping to be wrong. I’d like to be wrong.

I tend towards over-prepared. If I were there, I’d have pre-cooked a chunk of food. Made block ice, coolers filled. Everything would be charged. Water in anything that can hold it (tub, buckets, washing machine, etc.).

But the disaster I have to prepare for doesn’t let me have that kind of warning.

Given the current administration I may need to get a few more water jugs. Sigh.

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MsJ  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:42:10pm

First come first served.

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BeachDem  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:43:08pm

re: #152 jaunte

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Lobbyists trying to scare people about a “climate change cabal.”

Climate and environmental experts and Heartland Institute definitely do not belong in the same sentence.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:43:17pm

re: #156 HappyWarrior

And demonizes critics.

Hey, I guess “It’s too soon to talk about Climate Change”, huh?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:43:46pm

re: #160 Blind Frog Belly White

Hey, I guess “It’s too soon to talk about Climate Change”, huh?

But not soon enough for the asshole preachers to blame secularism.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:45:14pm

re: #141 HappyWarrior

Yeah. Honestly surprised he hasn’t gone for anything since. That’s Trafficant’s old seat isn’t it?

Yes it is. A very hardcore area of Ohio. It has changed a bit in district layout due to GOP gerrymandering since Trafficant days.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:46:05pm

CNN just forecast 52 inches of rain for Victoria, Texas.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:46:56pm

Remember this?
Of course he ended up giving away exactly ZERO DOLLARS to hurricane victims and conveniently blamed his utter stinginess on Obama.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:47:10pm

re: #162 ObserverArt

Yes it is. A very hardcore area of Ohio. It has changed a bit in district layout due to GOP gerrymandering since Trafficant days.

Youngstown IIRC. Have some distant relations there- grandfather’s aunt’s family went there.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:47:36pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

But not soon enough for the asshole preachers to blame secularism.

“God punished Texas for California’s secularism and hedonism!”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:48:06pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:48:16pm

re: #163 jaunte

CNN just forecast 52 inches of rain for Victoria, Texas.

Dafuq? Over FOUR FEET OF RAIN?

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:49:58pm
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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:51:56pm

re: #167 GlutenFreeJesus

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Nobody forecast that deluge of a spit take.

//wipes off keyboard, etc.

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Jay C  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:54:40pm

re: #158 MsJ

First come first served.

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Got one! Thanks,

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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:55:09pm
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meteor  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:55:38pm

re: #20 Dr Lizardo

re: #64 Blind Frog Belly White

She got cooties.

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Jay C  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:57:59pm

re: #152 jaunte

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Lobbyists trying to scare people about a “climate change cabal.”

What a crock. “The Bizarro World of climate-change cultists”??
And “12 years since a major hurricane hit the US coast”?

Sandy in 2012 doesn’t count, I guess? ‘Cuz it hit the wrong coast??

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:59:00pm

re: #174 Jay C

What a crock. “The Bizarro World of climate-change cultists”??
And “12 years since a major hurricane hit the US coast”?

Sandy in 2012 doesn’t count, I guess? ‘Cuz it hit the wrong coast??

No, ‘cuz it wasn’t officially a hurricane when it hit.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:00:47pm

The yam tweeted, calling Harvey a “class 3” storm..

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:01:58pm

re: #175 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I live on the Gulf Coast (NOT Texas!)

We’ve had a very hot and very wet summer, both of which lend themselves to rapidly strengthening storms.

I worry Harvey may not be the last major storm of the year, especially with NOAA having revised its forecast upward.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:02:12pm

re: #174 Jay C

What a crock. “The Bizarro World of climate-change cultists”??
And “12 years since a major hurricane hit the US coast”?

Sandy in 2012 doesn’t count, I guess? ‘Cuz it hit the wrong coast??

Sandy had transitioned to an extratropical cyclone by actual landfall. This little technicality actually resulted in changes to how the NHC issues warnings.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:02:45pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:03:38pm

re: #177 Stanley Sea

The yam tweeted, calling Harvey a “class 3” storm..

“It’s such a classy storm, a wonderful storm. The best, really. The best. As powerful as my electoral college win and curvier than Ivaka.”

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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:05:55pm
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MsJ  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:09:56pm

re: #171 Jay C

You’re most welcome.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:14:07pm

re: #175 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

From the WaPo story:

Despite the increasingly alarming forecasts, officials in Corpus Christi held off on ordering mandatory evacuations of the city, which includes a great deal of low-lying land and a barrier island. “I’m not going to risk our police and fire people trying to drag somebody out of the house if they don’t want to go,” Mayor Joe McComb said Thursday.

I wonder how many of those people will die because anti-science propaganda has caused them to disbelieve the NWS?

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:14:12pm

re: #182 Charles Johnson

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I was ready that time.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:14:44pm

This is actually good advice anyway. Take a bit, do a walkthrough of your home, take photos of every room, and upload them into a folder somewhere. If you’re terrified of having that on the cloud, stick it on a thumb drive in a safety deposit box. Try to remember to update it once a year or so.

(I need to update mine.)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:16:09pm

Sigh.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:18:00pm

Donald Trump just learned that Tropical Storms occasionally turn into Hurricanes

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:19:26pm

Locally, a whole bunch of businesses announced closures because of a planned rally …that’s now not happening.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:21:32pm

This seems contradictory to his original statements

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:21:39pm

re: #152 jaunte

The good folks at HeartlandInst want you to know that Harvey has nothing to do with climate change

This is a time to be talking about how to deal with a concrete, impending disaster.

We can discuss the long-term stuff in a few days.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:22:35pm
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petesh  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:23:56pm

re: #190 FormerDirtDart

This seems contradictory to his original statements

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His first statements clearly implied that (he thought) no trans people were yet serving. Oddly, he was ignorant.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:24:34pm

The great thing about hurricanes is, when you’re in them, you can post about anything. At least until the power goes off.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:25:46pm

re: #193 petesh

His first statements clearly implied that (he thought) no trans people were yet serving. Oddly, he was ignorant.

It’s almost as if he’s really stupid and deeply incurious.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:26:09pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:29:43pm
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whitebeach  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:31:34pm

re: #184 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

“Mandatory evacuation” is one of those things everybody talks about, especially after a disaster, but unless local authorities have almost unlimited resources at their disposal, such as an already-deployed National Guard division, it just doesn’t work.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:31:36pm

“Grab the line!”
“Show me your parts first!”

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darthstar  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:31:38pm

re: #189 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Locally, a whole bunch of businesses announced closures because of a planned rally …that’s now not happening.

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And now people have to go pick up all that poop they left them.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:32:48pm

re: #199 jaunte

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“Grab the line!”
“Show me your parts first!”

SHOW ME YER BERF CERTIFIKIT

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:32:56pm

Fuck.

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Jay C  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:33:23pm

re: #184 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

From the WaPo story:

I wonder how many of those people will die because anti-science propaganda has caused them to disbelieve the NWS?

I read that story, too; and it doesn’t sound like too many folks (at least not the ones the WaPo cited) were staying in the evacuation area out of “anti-science propaganda” : myself, I think they’re nuts: but their “reasoning” doesn’t sound much different from the usual stories one gets about almost every major storm event. There are always going to be a certain percentage of folks who won’t (or can’t) evacuate, for whatever reason: you can only hope that few-or-none of them end up as sodden bodies pulled out of drainage canals days after the rain stops…

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:36:33pm

Hey, we’re a little busy here.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:37:34pm

re: #204 jaunte

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Hey, we’re a little busy here.

Well, if the world is going to end, sometime in the next hour and a half would be great. I’d rather go during a massage, nice and relaxed and completely unaware.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:38:10pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:38:26pm

re: #203 Jay C

I read that story, too; and it doesn’t sound like too many folks (at least not the ones the WaPo cited) were staying in the evacuation area out of “anti-science propaganda” : myself, I think they’re nuts: but their “reasoning” doesn’t sound much different from the usual stories one gets about almost every major storm event. There are always going to be a certain percentage of folks who won’t (or can’t) evacuate, for whatever reason: you can only hope that few-or-none of them end up as sodden bodies pulled out of drainage canals days after the rain stops…

I don’t see that the story addressed the motivations of the stay behinds at all. It’s true that there are “always” people who won’t leave, often because they just don’t believe the forecasts. It would be foolish to dismiss the extra motivation provided by anti-science this time around.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:40:01pm
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b.d. (bill d.)  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:41:35pm

re: #204 jaunte

I guess Kim finally got Bannon’s interview translated.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:41:46pm

re: #202 Blind Frog Belly White

Fuck.

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We have a DVD here put together by our local ABC affiliate chronicling their coverage of Hurricane Katrina.

One of the most heartbreaking parts is a segment of 911 recordings from frantic people and the operators basically having to tell them there was nothing that could be done because police and rescue weren’t allowed to be on the roads.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:44:43pm

re: #205 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Well, if the world is going to end, sometime in the next hour and a half would be great. I’d rather go during a massage, nice and relaxed and completely unaware.

With the missile launch and Harvey 300 miles away, now’s as good a time as any to get started on the last case of wine I have.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:45:46pm

re: #212 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I love my hometown.

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BeachDem  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:45:51pm

And while congress drafts their “both sides were bad in Charlotteville” bullshit:

All The Swastikas And Broken Glass Since Charlottesville

In the two weeks since white supremacists marched on Charlottesville, more than two dozen anti-Semitic incidents have occurred across the U.S.

huffingtonpost.com

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:46:27pm

Gut check.
Is it unkind of me to be especially unforgiving of those who refuse to evacuate? Maybe it’s self centered to resent that nobody will ever get a 48 hour earthquake evacuation alert and good map of the shaking in advance. Half kidding, half sarc.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:47:27pm

re: #211 Ace Rothstein

With the missile launch and Harvey 300 miles away, now’s as good a time as any to get started on the last case of wine I have.

Guess I picked the wrong week to give up sniffing glue!
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:49:01pm

re: #214 BeachDem

And while congress drafts their “both sides were bad in Charlotteville” bullshit:

All The Swastikas And Broken Glass Since Charlottesville

In the two weeks since white supremacists marched on Charlottesville, more than two dozen anti-Semitic incidents have occurred across the U.S.

huffingtonpost.com

Congress is considering a resolution retroactively condemning the violence between Communists and Nazis in Berlin in 1945.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:49:03pm
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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:49:03pm

I couple of days ago (or so, I can’t keep track anymore) folks were saying what hearing ‘Harvey’ makes them think of (like a rabbit, ‘n’ stuff) but I saw nobody with mine, so here it is:

Harvey & Sheila

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:51:04pm
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b.d. (bill d.)  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:51:33pm

re: #218 jaunte

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Corpus Christi Caller-Times took down their firewall also

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:53:14pm

Things you will never see.
NK launches missile, Sec Def calls presser on the launch, takes podium, yawns leisurely, steps away for the podium goes back to whatever.

Related, large school of Tuna file for NK sanctions and UN relief from incessant rain of rocket parts from NK.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:55:03pm

re: #186 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This is actually good advice anyway. Take a bit, do a walkthrough of your home, take photos of every room, and upload them into a folder somewhere. If you’re terrified of having that on the cloud, stick it on a thumb drive in a safety deposit box. Try to remember to update it once a year or so.

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(I need to update mine.)

Around 1999, when digitization became readily available, our embassy evacuation specialist began to advise getting good scans of all family photos and documents for stateside storage. She had been in situations like Tienanmen, where you bailed with what you could carry.

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gocart mozart  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:55:32pm

Read between the lines

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:57:43pm

re: #217 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Congress is considering a resolution retroactively condemning the violence between Communists and Nazis in Berlin in 1945.

Would upding that as good snark, but I’m not sure it’s snark.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:58:20pm
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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:01:41pm

re: #226 Charles Johnson

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White Inferiority racism. That’s creative.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:02:01pm
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MsJ  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:02:12pm

So infuriating.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:05:01pm

re: #226 Charles Johnson

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We shouldn’t dehumanize. Proceeds to dehumanize.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:05:54pm

re: #229 MsJ

So infuriating.

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And then they’ll blame the tax hike on the Dems and many will buy it cuz economic anxiety.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:05:57pm

Well, well, well. After learning that half of SF was planning counter-protests to their “patriot rally” — defended by Oath Keepers — first the Oath Keepers, then the “we’re not white supremacists, no really we’re not” patriots cancelled, and there will now be no march. It seems they back down when confronted, guns or no.

Now if only the Berkeley group would evaporate too… I’m trying to decide which counter-demonstration to go to tomorrow (all of them rather distant from the Civic Center alt-righters).

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gocart mozart  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:07:03pm
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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:08:31pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:09:48pm

Evening Lizardim.

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MsJ  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:11:36pm

Everything her touches. Everything.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:11:55pm

Trump really seems to be attempting to avoid a “Heckuva job, Brownie” moment.

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petesh  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:12:05pm

re: #227 Decatur Deb

White Inferiority racism. That’s creative.

White inferiority pro-semitism may be mildly creative for a ginger nut, but there have been plenty of suggestions that, say, Chinese are smart. The inventor of eugenics, Francis Galton, wrote in 1873 (galton.org):

… My proposal is to make the encouragement of the Chinese settlements at one or more suitable places on the East Coast of Africa a part of our national policy, in the belief that the Chinese immigrants would not only maintain their position, but that they would multiply and their descendants supplant the inferior Negro race. … The Chinaman is a being of another kind, who is endowed with a remarkable aptitude for a high material civilization. … The natural capacity of the Chinaman shows itself by the success with which, notwithstanding his timidity, he competes with strangers, wherever he may reside. …

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:12:51pm

re: #112 The Vicious Babushka

Look how she is making a fist when he holds her hand. Mamma must have taught her to do that.

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At least she’s decently dressed. Ivanka looks like a hooker in the other picture.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:16:18pm

re: #236 MsJ

Everything her touches. Everything.

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Infuriating.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:18:26pm

I’ve spent at least a week every year of my life in Port Aransas and now it’s gonna get clobbered.

:(

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b.d. (bill d.)  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:19:19pm

re: #237 Ace Rothstein

Trump really seems to be attempting to avoid a “Heckuva job, Brownie” moment.

His FEMA Director may be his best appointment, at least on paper.

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mmmirele  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:19:32pm

I’m wondering how many subdivisions in Houston will end up underwater after Harvey? Will there be any that are uninhabitable? This is not an idle question. When we moved to Houston in 1973, there was a neighborhood called Brownwood in Baytown that always flooded if there was even just an excessive rain. That’s because groundwater had been pumped out for decades and the land had subsided. (It was only something like 10 feet above sea level anyway.) It was like every time there was a major thunderstorm that hit the area (not to mention the occasional tropical storm or hurricane), Brownwood would be under water.

The death knell for Brownwood came after Hurricane Alicia in 1983. I can’t even imagine this happening now, but FEMA declared the land uninhabitable and bought up all the houses. They’ve been torn down and the land is reverting to its natural state. It’s now called the Baytown Nature Center.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:20:17pm

re: #237 Ace Rothstein

Trump really seems to be attempting to avoid a “Heckuva job, Brownie” moment.

There’s a dirty secret in the “Katrina” situations. It’s very, very easy for the relief agencies to look bad, and very hard for them to look good. Brown was a moron, but it might well have gone as bad under better leadership.

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BlueGrl21  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:24:48pm

re: #228 jaunte

5th generation native Houstonian, been through and heard about more hurricanes than I can remember. Never been scared before.

This one is scaring me.

I’m turning off the news and playing games with my kids. Nothing I can do at this point. We’re ready for whatever hits tonight.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:27:33pm

Did it never occur to anyone that a profit motive for imprisoning people would lead to abuse and injustice? Isn’t there a reason we don’t give cops a cut of every ticket they write?

Facebook Post

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mmmirele  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:27:46pm

re: #245 BlueGrl21

5th generation native Houstonian, been through and heard about more hurricanes than I can remember. Never been scared before.

This one is scaring me.

I’m turning off the news and playing games with my kids. Nothing I can do at this point. We’re ready for whatever hits tonight.

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:28:36pm

re: #243 mmmirele

It’s now called the Baytown Nature Center.

Back to Nature was a different thing back in the 70s.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:29:30pm

re: #246 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Did it never occur to anyone that a profit motive for imprisoning people would lead to abuse and injustice? Isn’t there a reason we don’t give cops a cut of every ticket they write?

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Prison should never be for profit.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:30:29pm

re: #248 wrenchwench

Back to Nature was a different thing back in the 70s.

There was a movie house in ’50s Pittsburgh that did a lot of nature movies.

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:31:34pm

Measuring rainfall in feet rather than inches is something I just can’t get my head around. I sure hope the worst case forecast scenarios don’t end up being what happens.

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MsJ  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:31:47pm

re: #249 HappyWarrior

Prison should never be for profit.

Nor should healthcare. But here we are.

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:32:36pm

re: #246 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Did it never occur to anyone that a profit motive for imprisoning people would lead to abuse and injustice? Isn’t there a reason we don’t give cops a cut of every ticket they write?

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Of course it did. For RWNJs that ‘business opportunity’ was the main point.

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electrotek  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:33:08pm
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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:33:10pm

re: #250 Decatur Deb

There was a movie house in ’50s Pittsburgh that did a lot of nature movies.

Wow, a whole movie house. Nowadays you’re lucky to get a slice of the internets.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:33:22pm

There are intersections in Lubbock where water will be 4 feet deep if it rains for half an hour. In some parts of town, every intersection will flood over the curb in even a brief downpour. Large areas of this normally arid town are severe flood risk zones, with insurance rates to match. Every utility consumer is billed $9.95 a month for storm sewer service but all the money is spent in the new Mcmansion developments that are causing the city to rot from the inside out.

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petesh  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:34:16pm

re: #250 Decatur Deb

There was a movie house in ’50s Pittsburgh that did a lot of nature movies.

Way back in history I worked two doors away from another such theater in Soho, London. I used to see the titles on my way to work; my all-time favorite was Moving Violation. Obviously a driver-education picture.

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:35:10pm

re: #256 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

There are intersections in Lubbock where water will be 4 feet deep if it rains for half an hour. In some parts of town, every intersection will flood over the curb in even a brief downpour. Large areas of this normally arid town are severe flood risk zones, with insurance rates to match. Every utility consumer is billed $9.95 a month for storm sewer service but all the money is spent in the new Mcmansion developments that are causing the city to rot from the inside out.

We have 3’ high curbs in parts of downtown to handle the drainage.

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petesh  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:35:22pm

re: #255 wrenchwench

Wow, a whole movie house. Nowadays you’re lucky to get a slice of the internets.

We may be at cross-purposes. :-)

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Jay C  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:36:20pm

re: #250 Decatur Deb

There was a movie house in ’50s Pittsburgh that did a lot of nature movies.

If they’re the kind I’m thinking of, we used to have a bunch of those in New York as well, up until the ’90s: mostly along 42nd Street……

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:37:26pm

re: #254 electrotek

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Women’s clothes and men’s hair can be so political, so often.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:37:31pm

re: #254 electrotek

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It sounds exactly like a Trump justification for war, though.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:37:39pm

re: #257 petesh

Way back in history I worked two doors away from another such theater in Soho, London. I used to see the titles on my way to work; my all-time favorite was Moving Violation. Obviously a driver-education picture.

I was a mere child, but I noticed the lobby photos of the shirts-and-skins volleyball tournaments were always shot from the “Skins” side.

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Kilroy was here  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:39:34pm
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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:39:51pm

re: #260 Jay C

If they’re the kind I’m thinking of, we used to have a bunch of those in New York as well, up until the ’90s: mostly along 42nd Street……

Heh. Wife and I used to ride the bus past them on the way to work in midtown. We adopted one title as the type-name for the genre: Ursula the Slut. Sociology documentary.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:41:49pm

re: #245 BlueGrl21

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b.d. (bill d.)  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:41:58pm

I hope Donny is enjoying Camp David.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:42:07pm

re: #36 Dr. Matt

Homeland Security Advisor Tom Bossert: Hurricane Harvey ‘Right Up President Trump’s Alley’

I can’t even bother to ask exactly how Trump has made American great again and how he has shown leadership leading up this hurricane. The need for Trump to praise him incessantly is beyond bizarre. I don’t recall President Obama needing so much praise. But he was an actual adult and not a man baby.

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electrotek  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:43:05pm

I’m glad this piece of shit got arrested

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:43:07pm

Keep your Play-Doh away from Texas, dickhead.

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Kragar  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:43:12pm
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Ace Rothstein  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:43:44pm

re: #267 b.d. (bill d.)

I hope Donny is enjoying Camp David.

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If he’s seen golfing this weekend, holy shit. Not even W was that stupid.

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electrotek  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:44:15pm

Too late for that, chief:

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:44:23pm

re: #243 mmmirele

A lot of those new neighborhoods on the prairie out west along I-10 seem to be built around retention ponds; the whole area is a natural marsh. The ponds may not be deep enough to handle all the rain.

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:47:50pm

Trump cheerleader Scott Baio calls Charlottesville and Sandy Hook victims “actors.” Gets upset when victims family members calls him out on his bullshit. What a douchbag.

rawstory.com

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:49:00pm
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fern01  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:49:27pm

re: #3 FormerDirtDart

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He makes anyone among his predecessors look like a magnificent president. I just keep repeating “Imagine the outcry if Obama did this”.

Heading out to golf - reminds one of Nero fiddling while Rome burnt. AND this is a state that voted for him, those people - his big supporters.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:52:16pm

Greetings from blustery Corpus Christi! We have had some pretty big gusts but nothing too scary yet. News is saying shit’s gonna get real in about 1-2 hours though. Residents are ok, dogs are ok, we are ok!

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:52:33pm

HELP WANTED: ONE WEB NEWS EDITOR. PLEASE INQUIRE AT CNN

Eventually it will be correct.

cnn.com

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electrotek  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:53:25pm
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Eventual Carrion  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:53:48pm

re: #187 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Sigh.

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Treating them like his nephew.

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BlueGrl21  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:57:36pm

re: #266 Ace Rothstein

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Jay C  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:00:30pm

re: #268 Patricia Kayden

I can’t even bother to ask exactly how Trump has made American great again and how he has shown leadership leading up this hurricane. The need for Trump to praise him incessantly is beyond bizarre. I don’t recall President Obama needing so much praise. But he was an actual adult and not a man baby.

Geeez - wasn’t Tom Bossert the WH “advisor” (i.e. Designated Dickhead) trotted out (or trotted himself out) to dicksplain away Trump’s Nazi-friendly shit after Charlottesville?

Right up Trump’s alley” might be an applicable (if stupidly-phrased) comment if, say, our Preznit was known to have some particular skill or experience in handling widespread, multi-agency disaster-response events: but for Donald Trump?

In all seriousness, though NO President really has these skills: their job (IMHO, anyway)
in bad-natural-disaster situations like Hurricane Harvey should be to:
1) Give the impression (i.e. reassurance) to the public that the disaster will be handled competently.
2) Express normal levels of empathy with the victims
3) Stay away to let the professionals do their jobs
4) Give the impression (and again, “impressions” are what the public is going to see and process) that the government is doing the best as humanly possible.

So far, Trump has waffled on 1); failed on 2): (SRSLY, a wave and “good luck” as he copters off for a weekend in the country??)

3) and 4) yet to be determined. (And I just may be cynical, but I’m guessing “FAIL” on both. After all, it’s Trump)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:03:21pm

re: #275 DodgerFan1988

Trump cheerleader Scott Baio calls Charlottesville and Sandy Hook victims “actors.” Gets upset when victims family members calls him out on his bullshit. What a douchbag.

rawstory.com

Sick fuck was at RNC and all.

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:09:14pm

re: #277 fern01

He makes anyone among his predecessors look like a magnificent president. I just keep repeating “Imagine the outcry if Obama did this”.

Heading out to golf - reminds one of Nero fiddling while Rome burnt. AND this is a state that voted for him, those people - his big supporters.

For example, imagine the outcry from the RW noise machine if news came out that the Obama Administration had to have a daily dose of ‘good news’ delivered to POTUS to improve his mood?

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fern01  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:13:59pm

re: #112 The Vicious Babushka

Look how she is making a fist when he holds her hand. Mamma must have taught her to do that.

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First thing I noticed - never known a child to do that - stops him making the iron grip.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:19:12pm

re: #243 mmmirele

[snip]

The death knell for Brownwood came after Hurricane Alicia in 1983. I can’t even imagine this happening now, but FEMA declared the land uninhabitable and bought up all the houses. They’ve been torn down and the land is reverting to its natural state. It’s now called the Baytown Nature Center.

I lived in Baytown when I first moved to Texas in ‘79. Was living in Houston during Alicia. Future wife’s parents house in Memorial area lost power for 3 days. My apartment 10 miles farther west didn’t drop power at all.

A lot of broken windows downtown Houston from Alicia. All those chip rock and tar roofs throwing stone against glass building windows.

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fern01  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:24:04pm

re: #175 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The National Hurricane Center described Harvey’s sudden strengthening as “astounding.”

And trump gets his out - “the weather people had no idea this would happen - my people followed every word they said”

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sagehen  Aug 25, 2017 • 6:00:55pm

re: #174 Jay C

What a crock. “The Bizarro World of climate-change cultists”??
And “12 years since a major hurricane hit the US coast”?

Sandy in 2012 doesn’t count, I guess? ‘Cuz it hit the wrong coast??

Sandy was a combination of a smallish hurricane up from the south, a nor’easter from the north, and a whatever-they-call-it from the west, all hitting the same place at the same time (at high tide during a full moon). So, um… the hurricane component by itself wasn’t “major”.

That’s why it was called SuperStorm.


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