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Kragar  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:24:24pm

Just keep asking the same thing. Trump will break.

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nines09  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:25:08pm

“Can we expect any help from the Russians?”

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makeitstop  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:25:42pm

What a bullshit statement. With the usual ad libs.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:26:22pm

Had to turn it off. I’ll just find out from you guys.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:26:25pm

He’s reading a prepared script in that weird expressionless monotone.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:26:49pm

All Trump’s speeches are sung to the tune of “These Boots Are Made For Walkin’”

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nines09  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:27:05pm

Terror attack. That’s it. I’m out. Fuck this toad.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:27:06pm
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makeitstop  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:27:29pm

re: #5 The Vicious Babushka

He’s reading a prepared script in that weird expressionless monotone.

He sounds bored out of his mind.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:27:56pm

re: #9 makeitstop

He sounds bored out of his mind.

He’s brain dead

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Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:28:14pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:28:47pm

re: #6 The Vicious Babushka

All Trump’s speeches are sung to the tune of “These Boots Are Made For Walkin’”

Yes—The Crispin Glover version!

Crispin Glover-These Boots Are Made For Walking

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:29:05pm

I literally can not listen to this whining nasal drone for more than 15 seconds at a time.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:29:45pm

re: #8 Joe Bacon 🌹

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I was never told that Nazis were upright moral puritans. Just that it was illegal to have sex with Jews.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:30:43pm

re: #12 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes—The Crispin Glover version!

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Video

LOLOL

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:32:32pm

re: #13 The Vicious Babushka

I literally can not listen to this whining nasal drone for more than 15 seconds at a time.

I can’t look at him.

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Teukka  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:32:42pm

re: #14 Barefoot Grin

I was never told that Nazis were upright moral puritans. Just that it was illegal to have sex with Jews.

Only if the result was a child. I suggest you google “Vehrmacht field brothels”. Jewish and other “Untermensch” females forced into prostitution as well as into having abortions. And then we have the entire Lebensborn issue.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:33:21pm

re: #14 Barefoot Grin

I was never told that Nazis were upright moral puritans. Just that it was illegal to have sex with Jews.

Yeah. Dinesh is drunk again I guess.

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Kragar  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:33:41pm
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Dave In Austin  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:33:45pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:34:12pm

he’s so fucking stupid

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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:34:32pm

‘Yer gonna get yer funding…’

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:35:52pm

Since I killed the last thread I’ll repost it here. Bro-in-law just talked to his wife, she says she is fine and wants him to keep safe. His renters in the house he owns next door have parents in Danbury, which is why they all went there.

—-

My brother-in-law just E-mailed me. As the water continues to rise in his house, he decided it was time to go. He has left Alvin and is now is at a friend’s house in Danbury. He points out the area where they have opened the two dams are very wealthy homes.

He points out that all of Houston’s petrochemical industry is now shut down, but as a significant portion of the nation’s refining capacity gasoline is likely to go up in price.

His ‘65 Thunderbird is safe on higher ground (gotta remember the important stuff). His Miata ingested a lot of water escaping and he thinks it will need repairs. He moved everything he could to the second floor.

My sister-in-law is still in Russia since she can’t get home (and right now that would probably not be a good idea).

He says his rain gauges say he’s gotten thirty inches of rain so far.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:37:53pm

re: #19 Kragar

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Yeah Nolte is so scary. No he’s a fucking right wing whiny baby.

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Kragar  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:40:42pm
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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:41:24pm

Do not poke happy fun mass.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:41:54pm

re: #17 Teukka

Only if the result was a child. I suggest you google “Vehrmacht field brothels”. Jewish and other “Untermensch” females forced into prostitution as well as into having abortions. And then we have the entire Lebensborn issue.

Thanks for the correction. I shot from the hip. Rarely hit the target.

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Kragar  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:43:20pm
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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:43:50pm

“He’s done a great job for the people of Arizona, well, ok, certain people…’

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makeitstop  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:44:05pm

Presidential whataboutism. This fucking guy…

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Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:44:16pm
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Decatur Deb  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:45:10pm

re: #14 Barefoot Grin

I was never told that Nazis were upright moral puritans. Just that it was illegal to have sex with Jews.

Pulling up from the CL’d thread:

The Nazis were all over the map about sexuality. This is a decent look at it.

amazon.com

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Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:45:35pm
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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:46:02pm

‘Chelsea Manning…he…’

The name, but never the pronoun.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:46:06pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

HIGHER RATINGS!!!!!!

THA FUQ!!! He literally said that!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:46:12pm

re: #32 Decatur Deb

Pulling up from the CL’d thread:

The Nazis were all over the map about sexuality. This is a decent look at it.

amazon.com

The SS had a very strict and puritanical moral code, as least as far as personal sexual conduct was concerned.

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unproven innocence  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:46:34pm

re: #32 Decatur Deb

link issue.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:47:00pm

He’s running from the press

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Belafon  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:47:30pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

Whataboutism doesn’t work coming from my kids.

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:47:45pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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Decatur Deb  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:48:08pm

re: #37 unproven innocence

link issue.

Thnx, trying again:

amazon.com

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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:49:47pm

‘You’re a great pal, you buy our stuff.’

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Belafon  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:50:01pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

NBC ought to call him and tell him “‘President Trumps’ ratings are terrible. We’re cancelling it and going in a different direction” and see if he moves out.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:50:29pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:50:53pm

OAN
“Great Network”

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makeitstop  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:51:51pm

I had to turn it off, because fuck that guy.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:51:52pm

Mexico?!?!

This is how you thank them for offering aid as a good neighbor??

FUCK YOU

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:52:27pm

re: #37 unproven innocence

link issue.

another book that is a real eye-opener about life in Germany in the 40’s:

Blitzed: Drugs in Nazi Germany

German Panzer troops were kept wired on Pervitin for eleven days straight, allowing them to keep going until they reached the English channel.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:52:49pm

re: #47 electrotek

Mexico?!?!

This is how you thank them for offering aid as a good neighbor??

FUCK YOU

He sure knows how to treat an ally doesn’t he? Even Bush didn’t alienate Mexico.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:53:01pm

He’s getting hyper!!

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:53:04pm

I’m more concerned about Pumpkin Pinochet poisoning our youth than some mythical drugs coming from across the border.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:53:13pm

re: #46 makeitstop

I had to turn it off, because fuck that guy.

Seriously fuck him and his enablers.

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KGxvi  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:53:18pm

re: #29 wrenchwench

“He’s done a great job for the people of Arizona, well, ok, certain people…’

Is that an actual quote? That can’t be an actual quote

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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:53:32pm

re: #47 electrotek

Mexico?!?!

This is how you thank them for offering aid as a good neighbor??

FUCK YOU

‘I understand they’re being difficult. I mean, why wouldn’t they be? I talk smack about them all the time.’

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Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:53:46pm
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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:53:55pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

He sure knows how to treat an ally doesn’t he? Even Bush didn’t alienate Mexico.

I’m just fucking flabbergasted. How the fuck could he still insist on Mexico paying for the wall when they are going out of their way to assist in rescue efforts in Houston?

Fuck this infuriates me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:54:16pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

He sure knows how to treat an ally doesn’t he? Even Bush didn’t alienate Mexico.

One of the few things about Bush that I supported was his attempt at reasonable and comprehensive immigration reform, something even his own party would not back him on.

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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:54:27pm

re: #53 KGxvi

Is that an actual quote? That can’t be an actual quote

Forgot the /

Sorry. I listen between the lines.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:54:43pm

“Great respect, great love for Canada…”

The fuck he is on?

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Targetpractice  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:54:55pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

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Yeah, the check’s in the mail.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:55:17pm

Why Praise Gawd! The King Of The Pulpit Pimps Blocked Me!


You are blocked from following @JoelOsteen and viewing @JoelOsteen’s Tweets. Learn more

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KGxvi  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:55:37pm

re: #59 electrotek

“Great respect, great love for Canada…”

The fuck he is on?

All of the drugs, apparently

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:55:45pm

re: #57 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

One of the few things about Bush that I supported was his attempt at reasonable and comprehensive immigration reform, something even his own party would not back him on.

Also, right after 9/11 appearing in a mosque to call for all Americans to pull together and pointing out Islam is not our enemy, criminals and terrorists are.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:55:49pm

re: #58 wrenchwench

Forgot the /

Sorry. I listen between the lines.

We pretty much have to assume that the craziest crap we can put in a parody Trump quote is totally believable.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:55:52pm

re: #48 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

another book that is a real eye-opener about life in Germany in the 40’s:

Blitzed: Drugs in Nazi Germany

German Panzer troops were kept wired on Pervitin for eleven days straight, allowing them to keep going until they reached the English channel.

Heard a long interview with the author a couple of months ago. Amazing story.

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calochortus  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:56:12pm

So did Trump say anything about Finland?

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:56:28pm

re: #61 Joe Bacon 🌹

Why Praise Gawd! The King Of The Pulpit Pimps Blocked Me!

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Join you at Lakewood? Hint hint.

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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:56:47pm

re: #66 calochortus

So did Trump say anything about Finland?

Great pal. They buy our stuff.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:57:22pm

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹

Also, right after 9/11 appearing in a mosque to call for all Americans to pull together and pointing out Islam is not our enemy, criminals and terrorists are.

Has anyone tried to point that out to Trump supporters who were also enthusiastic Bush supporters back then?

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calochortus  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:57:46pm

re: #68 wrenchwench

Great pal. They buy our stuff.

Great.

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Citizen K  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:58:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:58:53pm

re: #69 electrotek

Has anyone tried to point that out to Trump supporters who were also enthusiastic Bush supporters back then?

Most of the enthusiastic Bush supporters who are now Trumpers hate that about Bush.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:58:53pm

re: #69 electrotek

Has anyone tried to point that out to Trump supporters who were also enthusiastic Bush supporters back then?

Down the conservative memory hole as far as I can tell.

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KGxvi  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:59:04pm

re: #69 electrotek

Has anyone tried to point that out to Trump supporters who were also enthusiastic Bush supporters back then?

They’ll either deny it, say Bush was wrong, or that it was just for show. And probably all three in that order.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:59:26pm

re: #69 electrotek

Has anyone tried to point that out to Trump supporters who were also enthusiastic Bush supporters back then?

There never were any enthusiastic Bush supporters. Also, all the old Germans you meet fought on the Eastern front.

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Interesting Times  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:59:27pm

re: #56 electrotek

I’m just fucking flabbergasted. How the fuck could he still insist on Mexico paying for the wall when they are going out of their way to assist in rescue efforts in Houston?

For his shitbag dumbfuck supporters, that’s a feature, not a bug. They think it’s just great that they/pumpkin pinochet can continue to be toxic little trolls while sane, decent people still get “stuck” having to do the right thing.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 1:59:32pm

re: #56 electrotek

I’m just fucking flabbergasted. How the fuck could he still insist on Mexico paying for the wall when they are going out of their way to assist in rescue efforts in Houston?

Fuck this infuriates me.

I know. It’s disgusting and so typical.

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Semper Fi  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:00:15pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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He’s completely self-deluded to think he’d get a little bump-up in his ratings.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:00:17pm

re: #74 KGxvi

They’ll either deny it, say Bush was wrong, or that it was just for show. And probably all three in that order.

Bush is a liberal now anyhow in rw mythology.

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Targetpractice  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:01:05pm

re: #75 Decatur Deb

There never were any enthusiastic Bush supporters. Also, all the old Germans you meet fought on the Eastern front.

And none of them knew anything about any camps before the end of the war.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:01:31pm

re: #74 KGxvi

They’ll either deny it, say Bush was wrong, or that it was just for show. And probably all three in that order.

Sounds about right.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:02:02pm

Promoted from dead thread:
Ran across this gem in the comments on an ammosexual blog entry about Australian gun laws:

Maybe the people of Australia should man up . They should start by voting in more intelligent repersenitives , and by not allowing themselves and countrymen to be victums. Out with the people who are stealing their freedoms and what should be their God given right to defend their selves and familys.

blog.cheaperthandirt.com

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Citizen K  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:02:58pm

re: #56 electrotek

I’m just fucking flabbergasted. How the fuck could he still insist on Mexico paying for the wall when they are going out of their way to assist in rescue efforts in Houston?

Fuck this infuriates me.

Because he’s a racist piece of shit who is all too precise in broadcasting his racism when he can only speak in vague platitudes otherwise. His full-throated defense of Arpaio and his continued pursuit to undermine every single thing Obama did, just because Obama did it, is proof of this.

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KGxvi  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:03:09pm

re: #79 HappyWarrior

Bush is a liberal now anyhow in rw mythology.

Always was, what with his Spanish speaking, and letting Ted Kennedy write the No Child Left Behind, and trying to let more of, you know, them into the country, and and and…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:04:12pm

re: #67 Barefoot Grin

Join you at Lakewood? Hint hint.

Maybe I ought to sneak in and make sure that the King Of The Pulpit Pimps ain’t skimming off the loot like he did before. Hmmm, I wonder why the robbery of 600K out of 0$teen’s ¢hur¢h $afe was never $olved?

Joel Osteen’s Lakewood Church Robbed: $600,000 In Cash Stolen From Safe

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:04:26pm

Trump considers “many” countries to be threats. I’d like to see him list them without notes.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:05:00pm

re: #83 Citizen K

Because he’s a racist piece of shit who is all too precise in broadcasting his racism when he can only speak in vague platitudes otherwise. His full-throated defense of Arpaio and his continued pursuit to undermine every single thing Obama did, just because Obama did it, is proof of this.

I can’t wait til I’m back from my 30 day Facebook ban next Tuesday. Going to put all the Trump-supporting dirtbags on the spot and explain to me how they justify the pardon of a racist POS like Arpaio, with extra focus on a couple of Latinos I know who voted for Trump.

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BlueGrl21  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:05:54pm

We are still ok. Lots and lots of friends and family have left. But the radar is starting to clear up a bit. Still raining around 1 inch per hour but we can absorb that without massive flooding. In short, we’re at a place where it’s not getting worse right now. It’s stable at shitty.

And I’m not sure why anyone is praising the federal response. There is none yet; we’re all local Houston and Texas National Guard. Let’s see what happens when the water goes down and people need long-term help. Until then, nothing to see here but words and slobbering over potential photo ops.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:06:04pm

re: #84 KGxvi

Always was, what with his Spanish speaking, and letting Ted Kennedy write the No Child Left Behind, and trying to let more of, you know, them into the country, and and and…

Trump has proven to be far worse than Bush when it comes to rolling back reproductive rights of women. Worse because it comes from an irreligious charlatan.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:07:09pm

re: #85 Joe Bacon 🌹

Maybe I ought to sneak in and make sure that the King Of The Pulpit Pimps ain’t skimming off the loot like he did before. Hmmm, I wonder why the robbery of 600K out of 0$teen’s ¢hur¢h $afe was never $olved?

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If your church has 600K in a safe, they’re doing it wrong. If they even have a safe, they’re doing it wrong.

(Guy recently pulled a knife to rob the collection in a church down the road. They shot him. They were doing it wrong.)

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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:08:30pm

re: #90 Decatur Deb

If your church has 600K in a safe, they’re doing it wrong. If they even have a safe, they’re doing it wrong.

(Guy recently pulled a knife to rob the collection in a church down the road. They shot him. They were doing it wrong.)

I had those thoughts when I got to (one of) the Vatican Museum(s).

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unproven innocence  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:08:42pm

re: #86 jaunte

Trump considers “many” countries to be threats. I’d like to see him list them without notes.

I’m sure the simplified list in his mind goes something like
1) us
2) them

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:08:57pm

re: #90 Decatur Deb

If your church has 600K in a safe, they’re doing it wrong. If they even have a safe, they’re doing it wrong.

Tooth-whitening fund.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:09:04pm

re: #91 wrenchwench

I had those thoughts when I got to (one of) the Vatican Museum(s).

They were doing it wrong. And it bit them.

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:09:30pm
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calochortus  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:10:04pm

re: #95 jaunte

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Clearing a high bar, is he?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:10:14pm

re: #84 KGxvi

Always was, what with his Spanish speaking, and letting Ted Kennedy write the No Child Left Behind, and trying to let more of, you know, them into the country, and and and…

I dunno. Some of the people who now call him a liberal and RINO were some of the same people who dismissed any criticism of him as unpatriotic but I think it was just GOP team loyalty in hindsight.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:10:49pm

re: #95 jaunte

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Yay for “sorta stable.” FFS stop lowering the bar. He’s the President of the United fucking States. He’s not supposed to be “sorta stable.” He’s supposed to be stable.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:11:01pm

re: #90 Decatur Deb

If your church has 600K in a safe, they’re doing it wrong. If they even have a safe, they’re doing it wrong.

(Guy recently pulled a knife to rob the collection in a church down the road. They shot him. They were doing it wrong.)

I got a feeling that the King of the Pulpit Pimps would disagree with that because he loves to $kim off the fund$ and depo$it them in his $wi$$ Bank A¢¢ount!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:11:13pm

Do Trump apologists ever get tired of the endless excuses they make for this worthless piece of Queens shit?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:11:19pm

re: #92 unproven innocence

I’m sure the simplified list in his mind goes something like
1) us (which includes Russia)
2) them

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:11:48pm

re: #100 HappyWarrior

Do Trump apologists ever get tired of the endless excuses they make for this worthless piece of Queens shit?

No. All you have to do is look at my family’s Facebook posts.

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makeitstop  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:11:49pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

Yay for “sorta stable.” FFS stop lowering the bar. He’s the President of the United fucking States. He’s not supposed to be “sorta stable.” He’s supposed to be stable.

Give Noonan a break, she’s probably ‘sorta sober.’

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KGxvi  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:12:01pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

I dunno. Some of the people who now call him a liberal and RINO were some of the same people who dismissed any criticism of him as unpatriotic but I think it was just GOP team loyalty in hindsight.

Oh, it was definitely Team R loyalty. A whole lot of people in this country view politics the same way they view sports - if their team wins everything is great, if the other team wins everything is terrible, and the other team probably cheated.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:13:16pm

re: #95 jaunte

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What else would you expect to hear from a whacked out grape caresser who had a sexual fantasy involving President Pruneface’s feet?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:13:17pm

re: #102 Joe Bacon 🌹

No. All you have to do is look at my family’s Facebook posts.

I generally refrain from political postings and try to keep out of FB political discussions, mostly because I generally wind up regretting being dragged into one.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:14:19pm

I’m not sure my bro-in-law bugged out to the best place, since Danbury is halfway between Houston and Galveston. The place he’s in is under a flood warning due to a rising Flores Bayou.

Current weather:

Aug 28 Radar for Danbury TX
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BeachDem  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:14:38pm

Welp—there goes dinner.

We are truly down the rabbit hole.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:15:34pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

Yay for “sorta stable.” FFS stop lowering the bar. He’s the President of the United fucking States. He’s not supposed to be “sorta stable.” He’s supposed to be stable.

Let’s hope Trump and Kim keep their sorta unstable days out of sync.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:15:35pm

re: #108 BeachDem

Welp—there goes dinner.

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We are truly down the rabbit hole.

Republican voters aren’t going to let a woman let alone a woman whose parents were Indian immigrants become their party’s nominee.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:16:11pm

re: #102 Joe Bacon 🌹

No. All you have to do is look at my family’s Facebook posts.

Touche. I’m lucky in that regard. Pretty much all my family can’t stand the Yam.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:16:17pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Republican voters aren’t going to let a woman let alone a woman whose parents were Indian immigrants become their party’s nominee.

Why not? They still love propping up Lebanese sellouts like Jeanne Pirro.

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:16:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:16:46pm

re: #104 KGxvi

Oh, it was definitely Team R loyalty. A whole lot of people in this country view politics the same way they view sports - if their team wins everything is great, if the other team wins everything is terrible, and the other team probably cheated.

For sure and Bush was a nice thing for them after the 90’s had been unkind to them in presidential elections.

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:16:59pm

Don’t know much about Hist tory

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unproven innocence  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:17:01pm

re: #101 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Actually, I was suggesting that Trump sees enemies on many sides, not including Russia, evidently. But us, hell yes.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:17:06pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Republican voters aren’t going to let a woman let alone a woman whose parents were Indian immigrants become their party’s nominee.

Yeah, well, I never thought they’d run an asshole circus barker.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:17:13pm

re: #113 jaunte

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Do we seriously think Trump knows what the Winter War was?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:17:40pm

re: #117 Decatur Deb

Yeah, well, I never thought they’d run an asshole circus barker.

Trump to me is more plausible than Haley.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:18:02pm

re: #104 KGxvi

Oh, it was definitely Team R loyalty. A whole lot of people in this country view politics the same way they view sports - if their team wins everything is great, if the other team wins everything is terrible, and the other team probably cheated.

R-Satan is very stable compared to that RINO Trump. I’ll pull the lever for him.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:18:03pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

Do we seriously think Trump knows what the Winter War was?

Season 8, Episode 1.

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:18:13pm

He boils the entirety of human relations into “gets along” and “doesn’t get along.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:18:26pm

re: #121 Decatur Deb

Season 8, Episode 1.

With commentary by Stalin and Marshal Mannerheim of course.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:19:00pm

re: #122 jaunte

He boils the entirety of human relations into “gets along” and “doesn’t get along.”

He’s an idiot when it comes to foreign policy which explains why he delegates it to his equally idiotic on FP Son in Law.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:19:41pm

re: #112 electrotek

Why not? They still love propping up Lebanese sellouts like Jeanne Pirro.

Jeanne Pirro isn’t running for office. She’s one of the “good ones.”

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:20:46pm

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹

Jeanne Pirro isn’t running for office. She’s one of the “good ones.”

I’m surprised there’s no token Middle Eastern Christian politician for them to put their entire weight on.

You know, with their faux concern for the plight of MENA Christians.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:22:09pm

re: #126 electrotek

I’m surprised there’s no token Middle Eastern Christian politician for them to put their entire weight on.

You know, with their faux concern for the plight of MENA Christians.

Definitely faux concern since they want to ban non-Muslims from certain Muslim-majority countries where Trump owns no property.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:22:38pm

re: #112 electrotek

Why not? They still love propping up Lebanese sellouts like Jeanne Pirro.

Propping up is one thing. Nominating for President is another.

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dangerman  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:23:37pm

re: #56 electrotek

I’m just fucking flabbergasted. How the fuck could he still insist on Mexico paying for the wall when they are going out of their way to assist in rescue efforts in Houston?

Fuck this infuriates me.

mexico is basically ignoring him and doing the humanitarian, right thing

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:23:58pm

re: #129 dangerman

mexico is basically ignoring him and doing the humanitarian, right thing

As they should(

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Decatur Deb  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:24:32pm

re: #129 dangerman

mexico is basically ignoring him and doing the humanitarian, right thing

Just like New York.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:24:46pm

re: #129 dangerman

mexico is basically ignoring him and doing the humanitarian, right thing

They are truly taking the high road on this. I just take betrayal seriously, that’s all. I don’t like being stabbed in the back so that’s why I’m very ticked off that Trump would still fixate on the fucking wall and expecting Mexico to pay for it…in the midst of a disaster going on at the moment.

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gocart mozart  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:26:05pm

Recycling insults

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Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:26:08pm

New missile by NK shot over Japan.

Oh boy.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:29:02pm

re: #134 Stanley Sea

New missile by NK shot over Japan.

Oh boy.

This is why we needed an experienced and nature leader.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:30:07pm

re: #134 Stanley Sea

New missile by NK shot over Japan.

Oh boy.

Good thing Trump is having one of his sorta stable days.

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:30:10pm

re: #134 Stanley Sea

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:31:30pm

re: #134 Stanley Sea

New missile by NK shot over Japan.

Oh boy.

Goddammit.

If NK and Japan duke it out, Japan may as well take back the Kuril Islands from the Russians while they’re at it lol

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makeitstop  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:32:44pm

I just read the craziest thing on Pajamas Media (no link for them):

Now Trump wouldn’t call it running. He thinks he is fighting back. His deliberate provocations, two Tuesdays in a row, one in an insane-looking press conference and another at the most disgusting (un-)presidential rally most of us have ever seen, are designed to foment discord - to divide, even if the divisions become so heated that violence might ensue.

What’s the goal? It’s a way to make his supporters even more angrily defensive on his behalf, and thus to add even more combustible elements into the mix, as if somehow Mueller will be warded off by an angry show of pro-Trump mob strength. Trump seems instinctively to believe that even if his overall number of supporters drops, the sheer passion of his remaining ones will somehow act as a deterrent to his pursuers.

Mueller will not be deterred.

Nor should he be.

And the rest of us will not be fooled. We know Trump is a hollow man. We know he is standing and trying to take his swings from rapidly eroding soil. And we know (forgive the mixed metaphors) that special prosecutors, unlike golf opponents on a course he himself owns, give no mulligans.

Et tu, PJ?

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Jay C  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:33:20pm

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹

Jeanne Pirro isn’t running for office. She’s one of the “good ones.”

More like “she’s one of the NY GOP’s failed hacks who couldn’t advance past the office of “DA” through failed hackery

Though in fairness, she did get sandbagged by her own party: who encouraged her to run against Hillary Clinton for the Senate in 2006: then dumped her (since she polled at 30-62) for another GOP shlep (who lost 31-67). Just goes to show….

Jeanine Pirro did have a promising career at one time: as it turned out, though “fake judge on Fox” is about where she belongs…

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dangerman  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:34:07pm

re: #132 electrotek

They are truly taking the high road on this. I just take betrayal seriously, that’s all. I don’t like being stabbed in the back so that’s why I’m very ticked off that Trump would still fixate on the fucking wall and expecting Mexico to pay for it…in the midst of a disaster going on at the moment.

i hear ya
i dont think mexico feels betrayed. i think they are just going “shoo” to the pres

they will never actually ‘pay’ for a wall- heck they’d never even agree to pay for it

trump can eff up trade pretty good or do something else and then claim it’s the same as paying, when it’s clearly not… just more rhetorical windbagging to claim a victory

proximity aside, mexico’s doing the right thing and will have the rest of the world on its side

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makeitstop  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:36:30pm

re: #140 Jay C

More like “she’s one of the NY GOP’s failed hacks who couldn’t advance past the office of “DA” through failed hackery

Though in fairness, she did get sandbagged by her own party: who encouraged her to run against Hillary Clinton for the Senate in 2006: then dumped her (since she polled at 30-62) for another GOP shlep (who lost 31-67). Just goes to show….

Jeanine Pirro did have a promising career at one time: as it turned out, though “fake judge on Fox” is about where she belongs…

Her press conference to announce she was running against Clinton was one for the ages…

Do you have page 10?

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Mike Lamb  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:36:46pm

re: #134 Stanley Sea

New missile by NK shot over Japan.

Oh boy.

It’s beginning to feel like that scene in Crimson Tide when Hackman orders a missile exercise in the middle of a fire…

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dangerman  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:39:32pm

re: #61 Joe Bacon 🌹

Why Praise Gawd! The King Of The Pulpit Pimps Blocked Me!

You are blocked from following @JoelOsteen and viewing @JoelOsteen’s Tweets. Learn more

JerseyCraig @CJPatruno
If you tweet @JoelOsteen about his church not opening its doors to floor victims he blocks you. #socalledchristian
9:00 AM - Aug 28, 2017

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bratwurst  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:41:47pm

Can everyone who hasn’t already done so please block these two idiots on Twitter and ignore them forever? Thanks.

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makeitstop  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:43:28pm

Hey, y’all! Another shoe!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:43:31pm

re: #140 Jay C

More like “she’s one of the NY GOP’s failed hacks who couldn’t advance past the office of “DA” through failed hackery

Though in fairness, she did get sandbagged by her own party: who encouraged her to run against Hillary Clinton for the Senate in 2006: then dumped her (since she polled at 30-62) for another GOP shlep (who lost 31-67). Just goes to show….

Jeanine Pirro did have a promising career at one time: as it turned out, though “fake judge on Fox” is about where she belongs…

I loved the way she came out to announce her candidacy, but had misplaced a page of her speech.

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I cannot.  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:44:27pm

For the nerds around here…

“Bethesda: Game of Thrones” Has Just Been “Leaked” by Target, is it Bethesda’s Next New Game?

A possible Game of Thrones game, from Bethesda…

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:45:39pm

re: #126 electrotek

I’m surprised there’s no token Middle Eastern Christian politician for them to put their entire weight on.

You know, with their faux concern for the plight of MENA Christians.

You mean the ones in Detroit who got rounded up & deported?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:46:40pm

re: #146 makeitstop

Hey, y’all! Another shoe!

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Crook.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:47:17pm

re: #149 The Vicious Babushka

You mean the ones in Detroit who got rounded up & deported?

hahahaha yes!

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Belafon  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:48:02pm

re: #146 makeitstop

Hey, y’all! Another shoe!

He never expected to get elected.

Even he underestimated how stupid the electorate could be.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:50:21pm

Now for something completely different:

We get a look at a decent-sized asteroid at record proximity this week. Should be visible in good binoculars or a small scope.

wfaa.com

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:51:11pm

re: #153 Dr. Matt

BREAKING: North Korean projectile passed over Japan, reports say

Goddamn, I can’t imagine how residents in Sapporo are feeling right now. Jeez.

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Timothy Watson  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:51:42pm

re: #146 makeitstop

Hey, y’all! Another shoe!

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When is the FBI going to prep walk Trump and most of the Executive Office of the President out of the West Wing?

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wheat-dogg  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:52:21pm

re: #144 dangerman

JerseyCraig @CJPatruno
If you tweet @JoelOsteen about his church not opening its doors to floor victims he blocks you. #socalledchristian
9:00 AM - Aug 28, 2017

I am testing this hypothesis by tweeting him to open his church properties to flood victims.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:53:04pm

re: #146 makeitstop

Hey, y’all! Another shoe!

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Got more shoes than Imelda Marcos had in her closets

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:53:15pm

re: #152 Belafon

He never expected to get elected.

Even he underestimated how stupid the electorate could be.

We should have listened to whoever it was who paraphrased HL Mencken, who never quite said “Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American Public.”

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Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:55:51pm
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BeachDem  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:56:21pm

re: #134 Stanley Sea

New missile by NK shot over Japan.

Oh boy.

But Melon just announced that she’s going to Texas to lend her support, so all is well. Spit.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:57:10pm
Scary news of LaPorte CHEMICAL EMERGENCY: Officials order residents to seek shelter, close all doors and windows, shut off AC #HarveyFloods

— Matt Woolbright (@reportermatt) August 28, 2017

Never fear, the Free Markets and less regulation from the EPA will save those citizens.

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Targetpractice  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:57:23pm

re: #148 I cannot.

For the nerds around here…

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Yeah, no, I’m not interested if that truly is what Bethesda is working on. If they’ve got time to churn out a GoT game, they should be putting it into the new Elder Scrolls game. Or did they run out of new ideas, which is why they’re trying to sell Skyrim on every platform short of wrist watches?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:59:21pm

I’m gonna go out on a limb here, and say that the conference room where he’s sitting seems not to be outside, so why the fuck is he wearing a hat indoors? Was he raised in a barn?

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Timothy Watson  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:59:40pm

Things that make you go hmm…

“The IRA wasn’t really after the British,” Mr. O’Callaghan told the Los Angeles Times in 1997, recounting his disillusionment. “It was the guy down the road who had the better land that his ancestors had taken from the Catholics. The bitterness was there all the time, rooted and deep. What they really wanted to do was to murder their neighbors. It was tribalism.”

washingtonpost.com

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Mike Lamb  Aug 28, 2017 • 2:59:42pm

re: #160 Stanley Sea

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But fuck safety regs, amirite?

(Now, there might not be any safety precautions that could fully account for an event of this magnitude, but I’m willing to bet Texas’s deregulated approach isn’t helping).

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KGxvi  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:00:13pm

re: #146 makeitstop

Hey, y’all! Another shoe!

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A quick look in on the investigation(s):

Imelda Marcos would be embarrassed by all the shoes Trump has dropping
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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:01:35pm

“…shutdowns are a major cause of “abnormal” emission events, according to a 2012 report from the Environmental Integrity Project. Short-term impacts of these events can be “substantial,” because “upsets or sudden shutdowns can release large plumes of sulfur dioxide or toxic chemicals in just a few hours, exposing downwind communities to peak levels of pollution that are much more likely to trigger asthma attacks and other respiratory systems.”
motherjones.com

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Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:02:46pm
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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:03:18pm

re: #165 Timothy Watson

Things that make you go hmm…

washingtonpost.com

It’s always over land, isn’t it?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:03:56pm

re: #108 BeachDem

Welp—there goes dinner.

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We are truly down the rabbit hole.

That clown is dreaming. Andy, Gomer, Barney, Aunt Bee, Opie, Ernest T and Floyd ain’t gonna vote for no colored woman.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:04:30pm

wow

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KGxvi  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:06:13pm

re: #170 electrotek

It’s always over land, isn’t it?

Land, ultimately, is wealth, and that’s what it’s always been about. Since the first cro-magnon looked up and saw that the other cro-magnon had a bigger piece of the kill to eat.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:06:17pm

re: #165 Timothy Watson

Things that make you go hmm…

washingtonpost.com

Lots of ugliness on both sides of that tragedy.

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Kragar  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:06:31pm
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:06:47pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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You’re kidding me. No way did he say that out loud. Wow. Speechless.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:06:49pm

re: #172 Stanley Sea

wow

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This is crazy. And here 3 days after landfall, we still seem to be in the ‘things are still getting worse’ stage.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:07:42pm

re: #177 Blind Frog Belly White

This is crazy. And here 3 days after landfall, we still seem to be in the ‘things are still getting worse’ stage.

definitely.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:07:51pm

re: #173 KGxvi

Land, ultimately, is wealth, and that’s what it’s always been about. Since the first cro-magnon looked up and saw that the other cro-magnon had a bigger piece of the kill to eat.

I think it’s that and when you live in a place that your ancestors more or less have lived in for generations, you are threatened when you may lose it. Not excusing IRA or Unionist violence by any means but I think that’s a factor too. I also think the Troubles is much more complicated than Catholic v. Protestant.

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makeitstop  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:07:56pm

Good thread here.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:07:57pm

re: #175 Kragar

Why does Osteen and Graham need our money to help out when they have millions of dollars to their name? How much are they giving to their relief fund? I wouldn’t give them a penny. There are so many reputable charities that can use that money for good.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:07:58pm
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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:08:10pm

re: #174 HappyWarrior

Lots of ugliness on both sides of that tragedy.

Personally, I’m more sympathetic to the Irish Catholic side in that struggle though.

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:08:22pm

re: #175 Kragar

The church is in a bad place for a shelter. Low-lying area, and next to a freeway designed to hold runoff. If he opened it up, few people could get to it. That said, he has a lot of money.

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KGxvi  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:09:22pm

re: #171 Joe Bacon 🌹

That clown is dreaming. Andy, Gomer, Barney, Aunt Bee, Opie, Ernest T and Floyd ain’t gonna vote for no colored woman.

Except she won South freakin Carolina. The only characteristic that they really care about is the (R) after their name. Had Ben Carson somehow won the nomination, they’d’ve all voted for a black man - and screamed racism any time anyone criticized him. Had Palin run in 2012 and won the nomination, they’d’ve all voted for her, too… and screamed sexism at any criticism.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:09:39pm

re: #183 electrotek

Personally, I’m more sympathetic to the Irish Catholic side in that struggle though.

I am too. Catholics were made second class citizens in NI for a very long time. I don’t hate Protestants or British people for it but I can see why resentments did happen. I don’t condone violence as the natural outcome but the Unionist extremists were just as bad and also killed innocents.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:10:13pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:10:33pm

re: #185 KGxvi

Except she won South freakin Carolina. The only characteristic that they really care about is the (R) after their name. Had Ben Carson somehow won the nomination, they’d’ve all voted for a black man - and screamed racism any time anyone criticized him. Had Palin run in 2012 and won the nomination, they’d’ve all voted for her, too… and screamed sexism at any criticism.

That’s certainly true as well. That said, I can’t see her getting nominated for President. Sexism is such a big thing in R politics and perhaps that’s part of the real reason why Palin never runs.

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Kragar  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:10:50pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:11:32pm

re: #187 electrotek

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NAFTA has also improved our relations with Mexico. I understand those who have problems with it but it’s not the evil that Perot, later Pat Buchanan, and now Trump and Sanders describe it as. It’s much more complicated than that. Ditto TPP.

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BeachDem  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:11:52pm

re: #175 Kragar

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And of course Grifter Joel would hook up with grifter Franklin’s samaritan’s “put all your money in my” purse.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:11:52pm

re: #189 Kragar

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Rex better brush up on his Finnish. That’s a hard language to learn!

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:11:55pm

re: #167 KGxvi

Is that really Ms. Marcos’ shoe closet? I’ve never seen it before. That’s pretty amazing.

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Targetpractice  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:12:01pm

re: #175 Kragar

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People often wonder how horrors around the world happen, how millions could die without somebody doing something. To them, I present Joel Osteen as Exhibit A.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:12:14pm

re: #188 HappyWarrior

That’s certainly true as well. That said, I can’t see her getting nominated for President. Sexism is such a big thing in R politics and perhaps that’s part of the real reason why Palin never runs.

That, and the grift is better on the outside (Sarah TV, &c)

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:12:23pm

re: #186 HappyWarrior

I am too. Catholics were made second class citizens in NI for a very long time. I don’t hate Protestants or British people for it but I can see why resentments did happen. I don’t condone violence as the natural outcome but the Unionist extremists were just as bad and also killed innocents.

Ditto. I’m the same way too, but I do wish for the British to get out of Northern Ireland personally. Though, some people have criticized me because I support the British claim on Falklands but not with northern Ireland. But it’s quite simple: the British were there in the Falklands before anyone else.

Regarding Northern Ireland, Bobby Sands will always have a special place in my heart.

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KGxvi  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:12:26pm

re: #179 HappyWarrior

I think it’s that and when you live in a place that your ancestors more or less have lived in for generations, you are threatened when you may lose it. Not excusing IRA or Unionist violence by any means but I think that’s a factor too. I also think the Troubles is much more complicated than Catholic v. Protestant.

There’s always a lot of reasons for anything, we are a big complex world and have been for a very long time. But I think if you get down to the very core of any conflict is usually comes down to either “you have something I want” or “you’re trying to take something I have”.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:13:30pm

re: #195 Anymouse 🌹

That, and the grift is better on the outside (Sarah TV, &c)

That’s why I said part of the reason. The grift as the other reason being an inference. Plus, it’s so much easier to just be a professional second guesser. It pays more and she made a pretty penny being one for Obama.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:13:52pm

re: #157 wheat-dogg

I am testing this hypothesis by tweeting him to open his church properties to flood victims.

And he blocked you? Thin skinned just like his President.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:13:54pm

re: #197 KGxvi

There’s always a lot of reasons for anything, we are a big complex world and have been for a very long time. But I think if you get down to the very core of any conflict is usually comes down to either “you have something I want” or “you’re trying to take something I have”.

Greed as my one Grandpa always said. It’s a variation of how every crime is based in theft from the father in the Kite Runner.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:14:42pm

re: #199 Patricia Kayden

And he blocked you? Thin skinned just like his President.

He is what the Aussies would classify as a softcock.

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ObserverArt  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:15:44pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Republican voters aren’t going to let a woman let alone a woman whose parents were Indian immigrants become their party’s nominee.

I would not make as bold a statement. Not in this new internet social media era of politics.

The Republicans will do anything they can to hold power. If a woman is shown to be a great candidate and has good polling, they will run her. They can lie and deceive the voting public with a women as well a man.

Remember Sarah Palin.

Compared to Palin she would be seen as a great conservative woman and the right woman to be this nation’s first female president. If she is named Secretary of State, then there will be the comparisons to Hillary too. If Hillary was ready, Nikki is moar!

Nope, politics is just too strange right now. I wouldn’t bet on anything. Our fellow American citizens are just too ignorant and easily led.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:15:45pm

re: #181 Patricia Kayden

Why does Osteen and Graham need our money to help out when they have millions of dollars to their name? How much are they giving to their relief fund? I wouldn’t give them a penny. There are so many reputable charities that can use that money for good.

Answer—How else will J0el 0$teen and Franky Graham KKKraKKKer pay for their new Rolls Royces and Gulfstream jets?

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KGxvi  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:15:57pm

re: #193 Patricia Kayden

Is that really Ms. Marcos’ shoe closet? I’ve never seen it before. That’s pretty amazing.

I believe it is, it’s what came up when I did a google image search, and it’s credited to the AP, so I’m assuming it’s legit.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:16:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:16:31pm

re: #196 electrotek

Ditto. I’m the same way too, but I do wish for the British to get out of Northern Ireland personally. Though, some people have criticized me because I support the British claim on Falklands but not with northern Ireland. But it’s quite simple: the British were there in the Falklands before anyone else.

Regarding Northern Ireland, Bobby Sands will always have a special place in my heart.

Man the Falklands is such a complicated thing in its own. In the early 80’s, you would have had to choose between Pinochet/Thatcher(Pinochet sided with the Brits) versus the Argentine military dictatorship. NI is as I said much more than Catholic and Protestant. I feel a connection to NI, a lot of my Irish family are from there.

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:16:47pm
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BeachDem  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:16:47pm

re: #185 KGxvi

Except she won South freakin Carolina. The only characteristic that they really care about is the (R) after their name. Had Ben Carson somehow won the nomination, they’d’ve all voted for a black man - and screamed racism any time anyone criticized him. Had Palin run in 2012 and won the nomination, they’d’ve all voted for her, too… and screamed sexism at any criticism.

And the circle is unbroken, because it was Sarah Palin’s loudmouth endorsement that got Nikki elected in the first place (she was running way behind her primary opponents until Princess Dumbass of the Northwoods showed up.) Then, Nikki got to appoint the first southern black senator, Tim Scott (I’ve even seen his name bandied about as a VP or whatever)when DeMint abandoned his office.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:16:53pm

re: #205 electrotek

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He’ll accept the aid I’m sure but then trash them as he always does.

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scottslemmons  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:17:01pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:17:04pm

re: #199 Patricia Kayden

And he blocked you? Thin skinned just like his President.

Pulpit Pimp J0el blocked me too! What a badge of honor!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:17:53pm

re: #208 BeachDem

And the circle is unbroken, because it was Sarah Palin’s loudmouth endorsement that got Nikki elected in the first place (she was running way behind her primary opponents until Princess Dumbass of the Northwoods showed up.) Then, Nikki got to appoint the first southern black senator, Tim Scott (I’ve even seen his name bandied about as a VP or whatever)when DeMint abandoned his office.

There’s still a lot of division within the SC GOP about Ole Nikki isn’t there? And man I am glad DeMint is gone. Fuck him and the jackasses at the Heritage Foundation.

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sagehen  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:18:14pm

re: #163 Targetpractice

Yeah, no, I’m not interested if that truly is what Bethesda is working on. If they’ve got time to churn out a GoT game, they should be putting it into the new Elder Scrolls game. Or did they run out of new ideas, which is why they’re trying to sell Skyrim on every platform short of wrist watches?

Speaking of GoT, did everyone who wanted to see the season finale last night?

I was soooo happy Sansa and Arya were indeed playing Baelish… I did think last week that when they sounded threatening towards each other, it was only for the benefit of presumed eavesdroppers.

And now Bran knows that Jon is really a Targaryen!! Danaerys is Jon’s aunt!! He’s not the stark siblings’ brother at all, he’s their cousin!! How do the Targaryens feel about incest? But I continue to believe he’ll support Danaerys for the throne; he gave his word, even if it was before he had all the facts. He won’t back out of that pledge.

p.s. it’ll break Dany’s heart when her living dragons have to burn the dead one

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:19:50pm

Crazy. Someone commented on a group post I made on Facebook 10 years ago when FB was college kids only. So old that I was talking about my Grandpa in the present tense since he was still with us then.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:20:03pm

Sure looks like The Big G cleared things up around O$teen’s Grift-0-Rama Palace!

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Targetpractice  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:20:14pm

re: #189 Kragar

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The Finns did something that no other country in Eastern Europe could manage: They fought the Soviets to a stand-still twice. And while they ended up ceding land after the Continuation War, they maintained their independence. And this is a small country that relied largely upon whatever weapons it could its hands on, going against a juggernaut that steamrolled its way to Berlin.

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sagehen  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:22:51pm

re: #179 HappyWarrior

I think it’s that and when you live in a place that your ancestors more or less have lived in for generations, you are threatened when you may lose it. Not excusing IRA or Unionist violence by any means but I think that’s a factor too. I also think the Troubles is much more complicated than Catholic v. Protestant.

It’s always been Irish v English. It’s just a quirk of history (Henry VIII) that makes the Irish mostly Catholic and the English mostly Protestant; none of the dispute is actually about religion.

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KGxvi  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:23:41pm

re: #208 BeachDem

And the circle is unbroken, because it was Sarah Palin’s loudmouth endorsement that got Nikki elected in the first place (she was running way behind her primary opponents until Princess Dumbass of the Northwoods showed up.) Then, Nikki got to appoint the first southern black senator, Tim Scott (I’ve even seen his name bandied about as a VP or whatever)when DeMint abandoned his office.

Keep in mind, there were a lot of Republicans that wanted Colin Powell to run for president at various points. And a few that wanted to see Condi Rice run as well (or at least be the VP nominee). Hell, there was even talk at one point of an amendment that would have allowed Arnold to run for president. The most important thing is that (R) after the name, that’s why they all bit the bullet and voted for McCain after bitching about him, and voted for Romney even though a whole lot of them wouldn’t call him a Christian in private.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:23:56pm

re: #216 Targetpractice

The Finns did something that no other country in Eastern Europe could manage: They fought the Soviets to a stand-still twice. And while they ended up ceding land after the Continuation War, they maintained their independence. And this is a small country that relied largely upon whatever weapons it could its hands on, going against a juggernaut that steamrolled its way to Berlin.

World’s Deadliest Sniper: “White Death”

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:24:24pm

re: #206 HappyWarrior

Man the Falklands is such a complicated thing in its own. In the early 80’s, you would have had to choose between Pinochet/Thatcher(Pinochet sided with the Brits) versus the Argentine military dictatorship. NI is as I said much more than Catholic and Protestant. I feel a connection to NI, a lot of my Irish family are from there.

And you know it’s quite telling when all sides in that conflict were right-wing (the Argentine dictatorship were notorious for claiming to be the “defenders of Western/Christian civilization from 1976-1983).

Even if Pinochet sided with the British, I will always hate him. Won’t change that about it.

The Falklands is complicated, no doubt about it. But the majority of the Falklanders prefer to be with the British over the Argentines. And who can blame them? They enjoy high living standards compared to the average Argentine, they get to drive on the left side of the road, and they get to drive around in 4WD vehicles such as Land Rover Defenders or Land Cruiser diesels that wouldn’t be able to in the motherland.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:25:01pm

re: #217 sagehen

It’s always been Irish v English. It’s just a quirk of history (Henry VIII) that makes the Irish mostly Catholic and the English mostly Protestant; none of the dispute is actually about religion.

Exactly.

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ObserverArt  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:25:04pm

re: #132 electrotek

They are truly taking the high road on this. I just take betrayal seriously, that’s all. I don’t like being stabbed in the back so that’s why I’m very ticked off that Trump would still fixate on the fucking wall and expecting Mexico to pay for it…in the midst of a disaster going on at the moment.

Trump only see politics in simplicity. The wall was said to be a big reason he was elected. He will never give that up. Ever. It’s a winner in his tiny mind. We see this in him all the time.

If something like Mexico helping Texas gets in the way, it doesn’t matter one bit to Trump. His people want a wall and hate Mexicans. Period.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:25:55pm

re: #220 electrotek

And you know it’s quite telling when all sides in that conflict were right-wing (the Argentine dictatorship were notorious for claiming to be the “defenders of Western/Christian civilization from 1976-1983).

Yep. Read about them in college. Man, such awful people and asshole Reagan re-upped support for them after Carter cut down on it. I think one of Carter’s better things as President was not enabling as many regimes simply for being anti-communist.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:26:53pm

re: #219 The Vicious Babushka

World’s Deadliest Sniper: “White Death”

Lived to be 97 and into the 21st century. That would make a fascinating bio-epic. Some Finnish director should make a movie. Wouldn’t get much attention here probably but it’d shed light on a lesser known part of the 20th century.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:27:15pm
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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:27:36pm

re: #223 HappyWarrior

Yep. Read about them in college. Man, such awful people and asshole Reagan re-upped support for them after Carter cut down on it. I think one of Carter’s better things as President was not enabling as many regimes simply for being anti-communist.

Man I still can’t support Carter, no matter what. His blind defence of William Calley will always be a thorn in my side. Whenever people accuse me of being a partisan hack, I bring this up as evidence that I don’t care about the partisan divide, but right and wrong.

It’s tough because Carter has done some very good things, but unless he renounced his support for a war criminal during his years as governor, I can’t support him.

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bratwurst  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:27:39pm

Rep. Ron DeSantis (R-Fla.) is pushing an amendment to severely curtail special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia.

DeSantis has put forward a provision that would halt funding for Mueller’s probe six months after the amendment’s passage. It also would prohibit Mueller from investigating matters that occurred before June 2015, when Trump launched his presidential campaign.

Because every criminal investigation can be wrapped up in 6 months…and Trump obviously became a brand new human being when he came down the escalator.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:28:02pm

re: #224 HappyWarrior

Lived to be 97 and into the 21st century. That would make a fascinating bio-epic. Some Finnish director should make a movie. Wouldn’t get much attention here probably but it’d shed light on a lesser known part of the 20th century.

I would have rather seen a movie about him than that fucking psychopath Chris Kyle.

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William Lewis  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:28:15pm

re: #90 Decatur Deb

If your church has 600K in a safe, they’re doing it wrong. If they even have a safe, they’re doing it wrong.

(Guy recently pulled a knife to rob the collection in a church down the road. They shot him. They were doing it wrong.)

Well, we’re pondering getting a fire proof safe for the parish records and the Easter/Christmas gold and jeweled chalice (a gift from an independently wealthy priest in decades past). But somehow I doubt that’s the same …

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whitebeach  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:28:31pm

re: #48 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

another book that is a real eye-opener about life in Germany in the 40’s:

Blitzed: Drugs in Nazi Germany

German Panzer troops were kept wired on Pervitin for eleven days straight, allowing them to keep going until they reached the English channel.

To bad they didn’t give them enough to last another eight or ten miles.

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KGxvi  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:29:33pm

re: #213 sagehen

Speaking of GoT, did everyone who wanted to see the season finale last night?

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Thoughts below the fold…

The Targaryeans were well known for incest - Dany’s parents were brother and sister. And Westeros has a very different definition of incest than we do - their’s is a more medieval definition. For example, Tywin Lannister’s wife (the mother of Cersei, Tyrion, and Jamie) was also his cousin. I’m also curious if this bit about Jon’s real name being Aegon is how they’re going to adapt the Aegon storyline from the books.

All that said, I’ve been kind of underwhelmed by the last two seasons. I feel like once they lost the training wheels of published source material and had to do their own thing, they kind of rushed things and otherwise did stuff that didn’t fit with the character development. That really doesn’t bode well for their proposed new show Confederate, with no source material.

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:30:16pm

re: #225 The Vicious Babushka

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William Lewis  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:30:57pm

re: #175 Kragar

Amen.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:31:04pm

I’m surprised no one was blasting out some Harvey Danger while in Houston. I know I would have from the rooftop if I was living there.

An ode to my late 90s adolescence.

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BeachDem  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:31:49pm

re: #212 HappyWarrior

There’s still a lot of division within the SC GOP about Ole Nikki isn’t there? And man I am glad DeMint is gone. Fuck him and the jackasses at the Heritage Foundation.

She had her challengers and detractors in her own party, but like all things Republican, once she’s gone from the state, she lives in memory as a saint.

DeMint is a totally toxic asshat.

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Targetpractice  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:32:48pm

re: #227 bratwurst

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Because every criminal investigation can be wrapped up in 6 months…and Trump obviously became a brand new human being when he came down the escalator.

The GOP that famously kept a probe into a land deal from the 70s going for five years…thinks that a criminal probe can be completed in a year and should only focus on events after a presidential campaign is announced.

Tells me that they know this shit is going somewhere very bad for the party.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:34:33pm

re: #230 whitebeach

The guy at the top of the German government and military was also rolling on Pervetin. Which is a pretty good explanation for the halt at Dunkirk.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:34:55pm

re: #213 sagehen

Speaking of GoT, did everyone who wanted to see the season finale last night?

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BeachDem  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:35:00pm

re: #225 The Vicious Babushka

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OK—that made me actually snort (and I never snort.)

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makeitstop  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:35:12pm

re: #225 The Vicious Babushka

Bryan Fischer Took “Authority” Over The Hurricane And Ordered It Away From Texas In Jesus’ Name

Seems to have worked pretty well.
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:36:12pm

re: #228 electrotek

I would have rather seen a movie about him than that fucking psychopath Chris Kyle.

I’d like to see a movie about Ludmila Pavlichenko.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:36:29pm

re: #226 electrotek

Man I still can’t support Carter, no matter what. His blind defence of William Calley will always be a thorn in my side. Whenever people accuse me of being a partisan hack, I bring this up as evidence that I don’t care about the partisan divide, but right and wrong.

It’s tough because Carter has done some very good things, but unless he renounced his support for a war criminal during his years as governor, I can’t support him.

Which shows Jimmy Carter is human, not a god. Calley made a public apology in 2009.

Perfect is the enemy of good. Carter did one bad thing in a lifetime of good things, so throw him under the bus.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:38:43pm

re: #240 makeitstop

Seems to have worked pretty well.
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Well, it’s off the coast now, libtart. s

Never mind it’s coming back.

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:39:12pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:41:19pm

re: #160 Stanley Sea

Scary news of LaPorte CHEMICAL EMERGENCY: Officials order residents to seek shelter, close all doors and windows, shut off AC #HarveyFloods

— Matt Woolbright (@reportermatt) August 28, 2017

This does not sound good.

Why do I see slicks of petro chemicals floating on top of the flood waters and finding its way everywhere…like into homes and businesses.

Potential Hazard Wasteland Texas. Damn…I hope not.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:42:30pm

re: #245 ObserverArt

This does not sound good.

Why do I see slicks of petro chemicals floating on top of the flood waters and finding its way everywhere…like into homes and businesses.

Potential Hazard Wasteland Texas. Damn…I hope not.

One careless cigarette butt …

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Targetpractice  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:42:37pm

re: #244 jaunte

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The New Gilded Age: “Doesn’t matter how dangerous it is out there, your ass is expected to be here on time or you start looking for a new job.”

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Dr. Matt  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:43:17pm
“He’s just like he is on TV. He’s an a**hole, but he’s our a**hole.”

— Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-CA), quoted by the San Diego Union Tribune, discussing President Trump with a group of young Republicans.

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KGxvi  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:43:53pm

re: #238 Blind Frog Belly White

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:44:52pm

re: #248 Dr. Matt

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Time to get primaried.

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freetoken  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:45:27pm

re: #248 Dr. Matt

Senior would not have said that. But Junior is so high on vaping that he’ll do about anything. He’s also under investigation.

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:45:33pm

re: #245 ObserverArt

Next door to Shore Acres:
americanacryl.com

“Cough. Sore throat. Shortness of breath. Burning sensation. Laboured breathing. Corrosive. Symptoms may be delayed”
cdc.gov

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:49:27pm

Pentagon: North Korea launched missile that flew over Japan
cnn.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:53:11pm

re: #247 Targetpractice

The New Gilded Age: “Doesn’t matter how dangerous it is out there, your ass is expected to be here on time or you start looking for a new job.”

Several jobs ago I worked at a call center. The management of this place was horrid. This was back in Canada and one particular March day we got THREE FEET of snow dumped on us in one day. Now Canadians can deal with a hell of a lot of snow but that much coming down that fast will cause problems no matter how used to winter you are.

So I called work and said I wasn’t coming in. The manager who answered had the nerve to give me lip about it and act like I was just being fucking lazy because I didn’t want to go in.

Guess what?

The people who did go in that day got STUCK IN THE PARKING LOT that night because the snow was so high and the plows hadn’t made it out there yet. So yeah, I’m such a lazy ass for not going in..

Oh and another story. I used to work at a retail chain as a third shift manager. I was scheduled to work an open to close shift (900 am - 900pm) Saturday of Memorial Day weekend because the Store Manager and Assistant Manager were off and hey, extra money.

Well unfortunately I got a nasty stomach bug the night before and could barely move by the next morning. I called my manager to see if he could contact someone to fill in for me as I saw no chance of being able to go in. Of course he and the AM were out of town so he more or less told me tough beans, I HAD to go in, even going so far as to say I could just sit at a desk in the stock room for most of the day if I wanted, the important thing was I be there to unlock the doors and open the registers in the morning and then close up everything at night.

He didn’t even give me the option of leaving and coming back which I would have gladly done. So I chugged down some Pepto bismol and went in. Thankfully my staff was awesome that day and carried the load for me.

That’s what sucks about hourly jobs. If you don’t go in, you don’t get paid and they often don’t give much leeway where illnesses and injuries are concerned. I know a guy who worked with his wrist in a thick brace for years because he could never afford to take enough time off to allow it to heal properly.

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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:53:11pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:54:59pm

re: #232 jaunte

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They should be ashamed they used all caps with that particular (script like) font.

People! Hrrrmpf.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:55:18pm

re: #255 wrenchwench

Ummm, according to the court documents he IS A FUCKING RACIST.

Where exactly is the misunderstanding here??

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:55:49pm

re: #249 KGxvi

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:56:45pm

re: #242 Anymouse 🌹

Which shows Jimmy Carter is human, not a god. Calley made a public apology in 2009.

Perfect is the enemy of good. Carter did one bad thing in a lifetime of good things, so throw him under the bus.

It’s not just one bad thing honestly.

He also approved the sale of fighter jets to Suharto’s regime in Indonesia and continued on with the official endorsement of Indonesian sovereignty over East Timor. The occupation of East Timor took the lives of 200,000 East Timorese Catholics from 1975-1999, to demonstrate how our support of Indonesia’s illegal occupation of a former Portuguese colony was catastrophic for those who experienced it.

If he had repented his support of William Calley and the continued arming of an Indonesian dictator, I wouldn’t be this critical of him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:57:09pm

re: #255 wrenchwench

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:57:48pm

re: #255 wrenchwench

And they call us snowflakes?

I eagerly await all the lawsuits against Joe Arapaio from his “non-racist” profiling now that he’s accepted a pardon.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:58:14pm

WTFITS? WE ARE IN DETROIT!!!

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KGxvi  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:58:34pm

re: #258 Blind Frog Belly White

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makeitstop  Aug 28, 2017 • 3:58:36pm

re: #252 jaunte

Nest door to Shore Acres:
americanacryl.com

“Cough. Sore throat. Shortness of breath. Burning sensation. Laboured breathing. Corrosive. Symptoms may be delayed”
cdc.gov

Oh, man. Sounds nasty. I hope exposure to humans is minimal, folks have enough to worry about right now.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:00:06pm

re: #259 electrotek

It’s not just one bad thing honestly.

He also approved the sale of fighter jets to Suharto’s regime in Indonesia and continued on with the official endorsement of Indonesian sovereignty over East Timor. The occupation of East Timor took the lives of 200,000 East Timorese Catholics from 1975-1999, to demonstrate how our support of Indonesia’s illegal occupation of a former Portuguese colony was catastrophic for those who experienced it.

If he had repented his support of William Calley and the continued arming of an Indonesian dictator, I wouldn’t be this critical of him.

I can be critical of individual actions and still see the bigger picture. Jefferson owned slaves, should we throw him under a bus because that action (which was immoral but legal at the time) wipes out all the good he did?

Or is Carter just as bad as Reagan?

There is no such thing as a perfect human being.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:00:19pm

re: #255 wrenchwench

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Poor baby.

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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:00:20pm

re: #257 Eclectic Cyborg

Ummm, according to the court documents he IS A FUCKING RACIST.

Where exactly is the misunderstanding here??

Arpaio’s feelings have been ASSAULTED and BATTERED. I think they are ready to be deep-fried.

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Targetpractice  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:00:24pm

re: #261 Anymouse 🌹

And they call us snowflakes?

I eagerly await all the lawsuits against Joe Arapaio from his “non-racist” profiling now that he’s accepted a pardon.

Yeah, Joe should have read or his lawyer advised him of the fine print on that pardon that accepting it was effectively an admission of guilt. And a pardon only covers criminal charges, it does not immunize him from civil suits.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:02:25pm

re: #265 Anymouse 🌹

I can be critical of individual actions and still see the bigger picture. Jefferson owned slaves, should we throw him under a bus because that action (which was immoral but legal at the time) wipes out all the good he did?

Or is Carter just as bad as Reagan?

There is no such thing as a perfect human being.

You make a good point there.

And no, Reagan was by far worse.

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KGxvi  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:03:06pm

re: #268 Targetpractice

Yeah, Joe should have read or his lawyer advised him of the fine print on that pardon that accepting it was effectively an admission of guilt. And a pardon only covers criminal charges, it does not immunize him from civil suits.

Are we sure about that? I know that is part of the typical pardon process. But I’m also not entirely sure it’s required, and knowing Trump, I could see him not requiring an admission of guilt on this one, especially since he keeps going with the whole “he was just doing his job” bullshit.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:03:18pm

Anymouse, for me I just can’t get over how horrific My Lai was and how anyone could come to the defense of Calley. Republican, sure. But a Democrat? I just couldn’t take it anymore.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:03:59pm

I need to log out … I have a water meeting tonight I have to get ready for. (I can’t wait.) Tomorrow I am off to the Cheyenne VA to have the sutures removed from my hand and start my physical therapy.

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petesh  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:04:12pm

re: #259 electrotek

It’s not just one bad thing honestly.

He also approved the sale of fighter jets to Suharto’s regime in Indonesia and continued on with the official endorsement of Indonesian sovereignty over East Timor. The occupation of East Timor took the lives of 200,000 East Timorese Catholics from 1975-1999, to demonstrate how our support of Indonesia’s illegal occupation of a former Portuguese colony was catastrophic for those who experienced it.

If he had repented his support of William Calley and the continued arming of an Indonesian dictator, I wouldn’t be this critical of him.

You might consider redirecting your criticism to an even more worthy target. Something like 44 other Presidents, for a start.

Of course Carter did bad things — he was President. Aint no saints in the White House, not one. But a few, a very few, get out of the office willing and healthy enough to do good works. Of those, Jimmy comes top if you ask me.

He was also mightily respected by the Sherpas of Namche when he visited the Everest region in 1985 — the secret service dudes with him all had to turn back before he did. And the Sherpas know a good ‘un when they see one.

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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:04:47pm

re: #265 Anymouse 🌹

I can be critical of individual actions and still see the bigger picture. Jefferson owned slaves, should we throw him under a bus because that action (which was immoral but legal at the time) wipes out all the good he did?

Or is Carter just as bad as Reagan?

There is no such thing as a perfect human being.

You can state the bad when you state the good and do no tossing under any vehicles. But always be clear that there was bad. To leave that out tosses those he abused under a large, group mode of conveyance.

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Belafon  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:04:51pm

re: #270 KGxvi

Are we sure about that? I know that is part of the typical pardon process. But I’m also not entirely sure it’s required, and knowing Trump, I could see him not requiring an admission of guilt on this one, especially since he keeps going with the whole “he was just doing his job” bullshit.

The way I understand it, it’s SCOTUS that ruled that accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt: washingtonpost.com.

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whitebeach  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:04:54pm

re: #164 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m gonna go out on a limb here, and say that the conference room where he’s sitting seems not to be outside, so why the fuck is he wearing a hat indoors? Was he raised in a barn?

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I remember the first time I ever saw Alabama coach Bear Bryant on the sidelines of a football game without his trademark houndstooth hat. It was the Sugar Bowl, which was played in the Superdome. A reporter asked the Bear about the absence of his hat, and he explained that his mama had raised him not to wear a hat indoors.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:08:17pm

re: #273 petesh

You might consider redirecting your criticism to an even more worthy target. Something like 44 other Presidents, for a start.

Don’t disagree. It may seem like singling out Carter on this one, but I assure you it is not the case. Reagan, Nixon, and LBJ I have more criticism of than Carter.

Of course Carter did bad things — he was President. Aint no saints in the White House, not one. But a few, a very few, get out of the office willing and healthy enough to do good works. Of those, Jimmy comes top if you ask me.

Fair enough. The one thing that troubles me though, in all honesty, is this: if you don’t repent on defending a war criminal as a Governor and arming Suharto, would that negate the good work he has done later on? Or do they ends justify the means in this case?

He was also mightily respected by the Sherpas of Namche when he visited the Everest region in 1985 — the secret service dudes with him all had to turn back before he did. And the Sherpas know a good ‘un when they see one.

That he was.

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:08:44pm

re: #267 wrenchwench

Arpaio’s feelings have been ASSAULTED and BATTERED. I think they are ready to be deep-fried.

What was that phrase the right likes to put on T shirts about feelings? Turnabout is fair play.

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fern01  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:09:29pm

re: #164 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m gonna go out on a limb here, and say that the conference room where he’s sitting seems not to be outside, so why the fuck is he wearing a hat indoors? Was he raised in a barn?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:11:26pm

re: #265 Anymouse 🌹

I can be critical of individual actions and still see the bigger picture. Jefferson owned slaves, should we throw him under a bus because that action (which was immoral but legal at the time) wipes out all the good he did?

Or is Carter just as bad as Reagan?

There is no such thing as a perfect human being.

26 years after the fall of the USSR, it can be difficult to remember or understand the driving force behind a lot of the US’s antidemocratic actions during the Cold War. When we learned how hollowed out the Soviets were by the end, it was a shock. We really had expected this conflict to go on for decades more of a balance of power. This expectation drove all of foreign policy - even the Arab-Israeli conflict. So, we ended up supporting friendly dictators like Pinochet over potential Soviet allies like Allende.

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petesh  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:13:09pm

re: #277 electrotek

Ah, Jimmy may have repented in his heart, the same way he once lusted.

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William Lewis  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:14:06pm

re: #226 electrotek

Man I still can’t support Carter, no matter what. His blind defence of William Calley will always be a thorn in my side. Whenever people accuse me of being a partisan hack, I bring this up as evidence that I don’t care about the partisan divide, but right and wrong.

It’s tough because Carter has done some very good things, but unless he renounced his support for a war criminal during his years as governor, I can’t support him.

Let me simply say this; Calley was a war criminal and should have rotted in prison. That said, he should have been the lowest ranking person in Levenworth making big rocks into little rocks for the rest of his life. Frankly, as an Army vet, I fully believe the entire chain of command up to at least the commander 23rd Infantry should have been imprisoned as well & possibly his commander as well.

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:14:36pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:14:48pm

re: #274 wrenchwench

You can state the bad when you state the good and do no tossing under any vehicles. But always be clear that there was bad. To leave that out tosses those he abused under a large, group mode of conveyance.

Sure, but what was said up the thread was:

Man I still can’t support Carter, no matter what. His blind defence of William Calley will always be a thorn in my side.

So I’m guessing there is no president worthy of support, none at all.

I don’t know a whole lot about Calley other than the massacre he was convicted of, and in searching I can’t really find anything saying Carter supported that. The closest I get is a citation from Wikipedia, quoting someone else named Bourne, who said:

When Lieutenant William Calley was convicted in a military trial and sentenced to life for his role in the My Lai Massacre in South Vietnam, a politically polarizing issue, Carter avoided paying direct tribute to Calley. He instead instituted “American Fighting Man’s Day” and asked Georgians to drive for a week with their lights on in support of the military.

Avoided paying direct tribute to Calley to me doesn’t mean the same thing as supported Lt. Calley.

I really must go now. There’s a tongue-lashing to prepare for over water. See y’all later.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:15:10pm

For anyone who has struggled, either with the best way to present data, or with what other people mistakenly thought was the best way to present data:

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:16:20pm

re: #281 petesh

Ah, Jimmy may have repented in his heart, the same way he once lusted.

Perhaps so. Or maybe his actions may have been the way to repent for the past actions? Only he knows. Guess it’s important to give the benefit of the doubt in cases like this.

You guys made some good points, appreciate all of you for allowing me to see the bigger picture and not indulge in a binary viewpoint. That there are usually shades of grey evident.

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KGxvi  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:18:34pm

re: #275 Belafon

The way I understand it, it’s SCOTUS that ruled that accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt: washingtonpost.com.

Even that article suggests that an admission of guilt is not entirely necessary… that it can be used if the executive believes someone was wrongfully convicted. And I find it interesting that I can’t find the actual, official declaration of the pardon anywhere on line.

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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:18:36pm

re: #282 William Lewis

Let me simply say this; Calley was a war criminal and should have rotted in prison. That said, he should have been the lowest ranking person in Levenworth making big rocks into little rocks for the rest of his life. Frankly, as an Army vet, I fully believe the entire chain of command up to at least the commander 23rd Infantry should have been imprisoned as well & possibly his commander as well.

The Vietnam War isn’t over. It isn’t even in the past.

/sorrynotsorry, Wm. Faulkner

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:19:21pm

re: #286 electrotek

Perhaps so. Or maybe his actions may have been the way to repent for the past actions? Only he knows. Guess it’s important to give the benefit of the doubt in cases like this.

You guys made some good points, appreciate all of you for allowing me to see the bigger picture and not indulge in a binary viewpoint. That there are usually shades of grey evident.

I think with Carter, we’ve gotten to see the struggles of a good man in the job of the Presidency. You have to make choices between two bad things, because The Right Thing isn’t available, or expedient. There are a lot of reasons why Carter wasn’t a good President, but not being a good PERSON is not one of them.

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Belafon  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:19:58pm

re: #283 jaunte

It’s obvious that Mexico just wants to reannex Texas. //

If they do it, maybe at least we’ll get taco trucks on every corner.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:19:59pm

re: #282 William Lewis

Let me simply say this; Calley was a war criminal and should have rotted in prison. That said, he should have been the lowest ranking person in Levenworth making big rocks into little rocks for the rest of his life. Frankly, as an Army vet, I fully believe the entire chain of command up to at least the commander 23rd Infantry should have been imprisoned as well & possibly his commander as well.

Definitely.

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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:20:19pm

re: #284 Anymouse 🌹

So I’m guessing there is no president worthy of support, none at all.

Overstatement of your case helps no one.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:21:20pm

re: #213 sagehen

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:23:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:23:56pm

I think every leader and individual has flaws. What separates good from bad? Those who I think ultimately did try to do good for the benefit of many versus a few.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:24:10pm

re: #294 jaunte

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sagehen  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:26:14pm

re: #262 The Vicious Babushka

WTFITS? WE ARE IN DETROIT!!!

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The rain will continue for 93 minutes? That’s some precision forecasting there…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:27:38pm

For me, one of my great struggles is rectifying my mom’s father whom I’m named after who made a lot of great economic points about how a lot of the world’s problems are rooted in greed with the fact that he quite honestly was racially prejudiced. He wasn’t like a Klansman or what we saw in Charlottesville but he definitely had his prejudices against certain groups. Carter is a complicated man. I think he was a disappointing President but I really think he’s one of the best people to serve the country as President in recent memory.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:28:58pm

re: #294 jaunte

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Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:29:16pm
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William Lewis  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:29:38pm

re: #288 wrenchwench

The Vietnam War isn’t over. It isn’t even in the past.

/sorrynotsorry, Wm. Faulkner

Agreed. But especially not when there are people out there holding Calley up as a victim rather than a criminal. I prefer to see the Army living up to the ethics we espoused rather than acting like armies throughout history.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:29:57pm
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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:31:00pm

You may have seen some conversation on Twitter about Osteen not opening his church.
He’s a swindler, but even if he opened it, the surrounding streets are flooded and I don’t think many could get there. You can see “Lakewood Church” in the middle of this, just north of flooded I-59.

Houston Chronicle is compiling a flooded streets map here:
google.com

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:31:03pm

re: #301 William Lewis

Agreed. But especially not when there are people out there holding Calley up as a victim rather than a criminal. I prefer to see the Army living up to the ethics we espoused rather than acting like armies throughout history.

Read some of the comments on this post from The Economist to see that:

Facebook Post

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sagehen  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:31:10pm

re: #283 jaunte

I just spoke to Gov. @GregAbbott_TX. We will provide all the help we can. Our full solidarity with the people of Texas. #HurricaneHarvey

— Luis Videgaray Caso (@LVidegaray) August 28, 2017

You meant to say Tejas, right Luis?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:31:16pm

re: #301 William Lewis

Agreed. But especially not when there are people out there holding Calley up as a victim rather than a criminal. I prefer to see the Army living up to the ethics we espoused rather than acting like armies throughout history.

To me the secondary tragedy of My Lai was how Hugh Thompson was treated. He got death threats and everything.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:31:55pm

re: #157 wheat-dogg

I am testing this hypothesis by tweeting him to open his church properties to flood victims.

He hasn’t blocked me. Yet.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:32:01pm

re: #306 HappyWarrior

To me the tragedy of My Lai was how Hugh Thompson was treated. He got death threats and everything.

That’s what made me angry. Hugh Thompson is the person who exemplifies true American values instead of a psychopath fucker like Chris Kyle.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:32:26pm

re: #304 electrotek

Read some of the comments on this post from The Economist to see that:

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I hate reading comments on stories like that because it really makes me cynical about humanity. So much hatred and ugliness.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:32:38pm

re: #303 jaunte

That’s why rescuers are using boats. ;)

If I were Joel, I’d say: “If you can make it to my church, we have people here ready to help you with whatever you may need.”

Heck, I’d even coordinate with FEMA, and allow them to use it as a staging area.

But he’s too busy being high and dry at his mansion. Tweeting is the maximum amount of effort he’s willing to spend.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:33:08pm

re: #293 Hecuba’s daughter

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:33:08pm

re: #308 electrotek

That’s what made me angry. Hugh Thompson is the person who exemplifies true American values instead of a psychopath fucker like Chris Kyle.

And yet his story is forgotten. And he got threats no doubt from the same “patriots” who think Kyle is the ultimate American hero.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:34:29pm

re: #312 HappyWarrior

And yet his story is forgotten. And he got threats no doubt from the same “patriots” who think Kyle is the ultimate American hero.

The same ones who still bitch and whine about Jane Fonda to this day.

What she did is peanuts compared to what happened in My Lai. That was a true betrayal of American military ethics and values, not an actress posing around some anti-aircraft artillery.

And this is coming from someone who used to believe she deserved to be treated like a pariah, even once regretfully cheering the veteran who spat on her at a book-signing event in 2005.

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:36:08pm

re: #310 GlutenFreeJesus

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:37:29pm

re: #309 HappyWarrior

I hate reading comments on stories like that because it really makes me cynical about humanity. So much hatred and ugliness.

This one was actually good:

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:37:58pm

re: #313 electrotek

The same ones who still bitch and whine about Jane Fonda to this day.

What she did is peanuts compared to what happened in My Lai. That was a true betrayal of American military ethics and values, not an actress posing around some anti-aircraft artillery.

Yeah I just don’t get what these people choose to get angry at. I understand why people were upset at Fonda but My Lai should have infuriated them. If you truly believed in the cause of stopping Communism’s spread, how on earth could you defend that? Too many people in our country want to view our country’s history the same way many revisionists in other countries do. When I was talking with my brother today, he brought up how Trump and others are trying the slippery slope thing to discredit CSA statue critics, he said that these people need to think about how an African-American may view George Washington and our founders who no doubt viewed PoC as their inferior.

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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:38:59pm

re: #301 William Lewis

Agreed. But especially not when there are people out there holding Calley up as a victim rather than a criminal. I prefer to see the Army living up to the ethics we espoused rather than acting like armies throughout history.

This is why the talking needs to go on.

There was no sarc in the mutilated Faulkner quote, as there was none in the original statement.

/the sarc is here, in my apology to the professor I cannot remember, for saying ‘quote’ when I should have said ‘quotation’.

[Edited to add a comma, for that professor.]

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stpaulbear  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:39:22pm

re: #302 Charles Johnson

Bummer. When I worked in a Musicland warehouse during my mis-spent youth, I found out you could disrupt an entire work group by putting a strip of bubble wrap on the floor and driving a forklift over it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:40:13pm

re: #315 electrotek

This one was actually good:

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That dude Steve would have fit in great in Nazi Germany. He really is the face of “It’s okay if we do cuz America.” And he wants to talk about people turning against the troops? HOw about how people like Thompson were treated? I don’t care if he’s military or not, he talks like a fucking Nazi and sadly some people in our military do sound like Nazis sometimes when it comes to shit like that. Not every or most but a frustrating amount of them do.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:41:54pm

re: #316 HappyWarrior

Yeah I just don’t get what these people choose to get angry at. I understand why people were upset at Fonda but My Lai should have infuriated them. If you truly believed in the cause of stopping Communism’s spread, how on earth could you defend that? Too many people in our country want to view our country’s history the same way many revisionists in other countries do. When I was talking with my brother today, he brought up how Trump and others are trying the slippery slope thing to discredit CSA statue critics, he said that these people need to think about how an African-American may view George Washington and our founders who no doubt viewed PoC as their inferior.

Yeah this wasn’t unfortunate collateral damage, but the deliberate targeting of civilians by an established military force. Women and children were deliberately targeted by those in uniform. A uniform that many of us hold dear to, and see the message it upholds.

Fonda to her credit has repented countless times (which explains why I’ve softened my stance on her significantly in the years since), but she still is a declared enemy to veterans.

It was over 4 decades ago, she didn’t kill anybody nor did she torture any POW’s, get over it and move on already.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:42:13pm

I just remember when the torture came out in the Bush years. All that rationalizing. All that rationalizing for things that would have horrified and rightfully so if we knew the Taliban, Al Queda, insurgents, or anyone was doing to our guys. I remember reading about Japanese treatment of Allied POWs in WWII and it horrified me. I get that we weren’t saints then either but damn.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:43:14pm

re: #315 electrotek

This one was actually good:

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That Bodnar guy exemplifies why we keep the military under civilian command, and why we send journalists in with them. First, the civilian command defines the mission, defines what ‘winning’ means, and defines what is and is not allowable to achieve the mission. People hyperfocused on ‘winning’ get you Pyrrhic victories. Second, the military works for us. We have a right to know what they do in our names. Period.

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JordanRules  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:43:37pm

It’s always nice to get a dash of Chappelle in. LOL

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:44:09pm

re: #320 electrotek

Yeah this wasn’t unfortunate collateral damage, but the deliberate targeting of civilians by an established military force. Women and children were deliberately targeted by those in uniform. A uniform that many of us hold dear to, and see the message it upholds.

Fonda to her credit has repented countless times (which explains why I’ve softened my stance on her significantly in the years since), but she still is a declared enemy to veterans.

It was over 4 decades ago, she didn’t kill anybody nor did she torture any POW’s, get over it and move on already.

An interesting side note but history tells us that American soldiers in the Korean War were furious when Truman fired MacArthur. My above mentioned Grandpa always told my brother and I that he was happy when that happened and even happier when he got home. If one had met my Grandpa, you’d think he’d be perfect fodder for the Reagan Dems but he never fell for that shit I think in large part due to his aversion to warfare and as he liked to joke with us “Reagan wasn’t even that good of an actor.”

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:44:14pm

re: #321 HappyWarrior

I just remember when the torture came out in the Bush years. All that rationalizing. All that rationalizing for things that would have horrified and rightfully so if we knew the Taliban, Al Queda, insurgents, or anyone was doing to our guys. I remember reading about Japanese treatment of Allied POWs in WWII and it horrified me. I get that we weren’t saints then either but damn.

Like this?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:44:31pm

re: #322 Blind Frog Belly White

That Bodnar guy exemplifies why we keep the military under civilian command, and why we send journalists in with them. First, the civilian command defines the mission, defines what ‘winning’ means, and defines what is and is not allowable to achieve the mission. People hyperfocused on ‘winning’ get you Pyrrhic victories. Second, the military works for us. We have a right to know what they do in our names. Period.

Yep.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:45:02pm

re: #322 Blind Frog Belly White

People hyperfocused on ‘winning’ get you Pyrrhic victories.

This concept seems so familiar to me…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:45:20pm

re: #325 electrotek

Like this?

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Damn wasn’t aware of things like that. That’s frigging ghoulish. I admit I have read more about our conduct in the European Theater though.

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JordanRules  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:45:54pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:47:51pm

The media’s job isn’t to write a glowing report of everything the military does. The media’s job is to report the truth and they did that in Vietnam and a lot of hardcore assholes didn’t like that. Thing that fascinates me about war and warfare is how different many people can come out from it. Mentioning my Grandpa again but he was pretty much a pacifist because of it. He never protested Vietnam or Iraq but I knew he worried for those young men and women. Others though came out of it hawkish than ever.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:48:10pm

re: #328 HappyWarrior

Damn wasn’t aware of things like that. That’s frigging ghoulish. I admit I have read more about our conduct in the European Theater though.

It was much worse in the Pacific Theater:

As Niall Ferguson pointed out in his 2006 book, The War of the World: Twentieth-Century Conflict and the Descent of the West, while discussing this very photograph of young Natalie Nickerson and the Japanese skull: “Allied troops often regarded the Japanese in the same way that Germans regarded Russians—as Untermenschen. Boiling the flesh off enemy skulls to make souvenirs was a not uncommon practice. Ears, bones and teeth were also collected.”

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:49:15pm

Also this one:

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Chrysicat  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:49:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:49:28pm

re: #331 electrotek

It was much worse in the Pacific Theater:

I believe it. It makes sense. So much ugliness in that theater.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:50:36pm

re: #333 Chrysicat

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Indeed. Ukraine hasn’t been attempting to sabotage our elections. Really disgusting how the Ukrainians have been thrown under the bus to rationalize Trump’s bullshit.

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sagehen  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:52:18pm

re: #319 HappyWarrior

That dude Steve would have fit in great in Nazi Germany. He really is the face of “It’s okay if we do cuz America.” And he wants to talk about people turning against the troops? HOw about how people like Thompson were treated? I don’t care if he’s military or not, he talks like a fucking Nazi and sadly some people in our military do sound like Nazis sometimes when it comes to shit like that. Not every or most but a frustrating amount of them do.

It’s like he doesn’t understand the other side has just as many photographers and newspapers as we do (or today, Twitter and YouTube). You can’t win hearts and minds by doing shit you’d be ashamed to have publicized.

I keep coming back to — in the first Gulf War, Iraqis surrendered whole battalions at a time. It was an easy win for us, because the opposition was happy to lay down their arms. We only lost a few dozen KIA that war. Ever since Abu Grahib, they’ll fight to the death, and take as many of us as possible with them. More than 4000 so far.

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Jay C  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:53:29pm

re: #328 HappyWarrior

Damn wasn’t aware of things like that. That’s frigging ghoulish. I admit I have read more about our conduct in the European Theater though.

Yeah: major differences, though. It was WWII: dead German or Italian soldiers were usually considered just “dead” casualties: to be counted and buried. Japanese casualties were very often looked on as merely potential souvenirs.
(Though Betty Homefront in that picture definitely looks unsure as to how to thank her boyfriend for the gift of that “paperweight” he sent her….)

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 28, 2017 • 4:56:57pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:00:38pm

re: #336 sagehen

It’s like he doesn’t understand the other side has just as many photographers and newspapers as we do (or today, Twitter and YouTube). You can’t win hearts and minds by doing shit you’d be ashamed to have publicized.

I keep coming back to — in the first Gulf War, Iraqis surrendered whole battalions at a time. It was an easy win for us, because the opposition was happy to lay down their arms. We only lost a few dozen KIA that war. Ever since Abu Grahib, they’ll fight to the death, and take as many of us as possible with them. More than 4000 so far.

His discussion of ‘winning’ is the giveaway - he’s thinking in strictly tactical terms. You win by defeating the enemy on the battlefield. Strategically, you can win all the battles, even the war, and still lose.

I’ve had people claim that the Tet Offensive was a HUGE defeat for NVN, because they spent so many lives doing it and didn’t permanently take any territory, and it left them depleted. What it did, though, was demonstrate not only that they could do that, but that the reason they could do it was that we were NOT winning ‘Hearts And Minds’, and probably never could. We’d have to stay there forever losing soldiers every day just to maintain the status quo. We could never ‘win’.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:02:51pm
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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:03:32pm
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FormerDirtDart  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:04:07pm
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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:04:32pm

re: #342 FormerDirtDart

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Oh my God.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:04:44pm

re: #341 jaunte

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I forget Ann have you ever served? TG people are serving this country in a way your bigoted ass never has.

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NoSoapForYou  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:05:27pm
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petesh  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:05:44pm

re: #331 electrotek

It was much worse in the Pacific Theater:

Yeah. I hate to endorse anything Niall Ferguson wrote, but I’d just add that the dehumanization was pretty mutual. Check out Unbroken (the book, at least; I never saw the movie) for some very nasty behavior on the part of Japanese jailers and the like. A couple of my parents’ friends were forced to work on the Burma Railway (see Bridge of the River Kwai) and it obviously broke them, though they lived through it.

But then my dad, a Brit who was in Europe, never said anything about his WWII experiences except to note that he “walked up Italy.” When videos arrived, he bought only one, Oh! What a Lovely War — and insisted that everyone who visited watch it. Check it out, I’m sure it’s around somewhere.

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John Carter  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:06:30pm

re: #303 jaunte

You may have seen some conversation on Twitter about Osteen not opening his church.
He’s a swindler, but even if he opened it, the surrounding streets are flooded and I don’t think many could get there. You can see “Lakewood Church” in the middle of this, just north of flooded I-59.

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Houston Chronicle is compiling a flooded streets map here:
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I guess he wouldn’t have to worry about a lot of people taking him up on the offer. It is still a good gesture.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:06:54pm

re: #341 jaunte

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How about “I hope the Army Corps of Engineers didn’t toss out the best engineer because he was gay”?

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:07:08pm

re: #347 John Carter

We’ll see if he opens up his collection box.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:07:14pm

re: #346 petesh

Yeah. I hate to endorse anything Niall Ferguson wrote, but I’d just add that the dehumanization was pretty mutual. Check out Unbroken (the book, at least; I never saw the movie) for some very nasty behavior on the part of Japanese jailers and the like. A couple of my parents’ friends were forced to work on the Burma Railway (see Bridge of the River Kwai) and it obviously broke them, though they lived through it.

But then my dad, a Brit who was in Europe, never said anything about his WWII experiences except to note that he “walked up Italy.” When videos arrived, he bought only one, Oh! What a Lovely War — and insisted that everyone who visited watch it. Check it out, I’m sure it’s around somewhere.

No doubt about it. I didn’t want to downplay the Japanese brutality by any means, especially since my late grandfather fought against them in the Battle of Kohima, which is often referred to as the Stalingrad of the East.

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ObserverArt  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:08:31pm

re: #341 jaunte

Kurt Eichenwald ✔ @kurteichenwald
Anyone who ever doubted that @AnnCoulter is a sociopath only needs read this. Making political jokes as ppl are drowning & losing everything


3:16 PM - Aug 28, 2017

I don’t know anyone that ever doubted Ann Coulter is a sociopathic bigoted fascist.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:08:32pm
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freetoken  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:10:20pm

The rain continues in Houston and will do so until Harvey is well away from it.

I remain skeptical that the hypocrisy of the Texas politicians who so wanted to deny Sandy relief and now want the Federal government to help will be given the light it is due.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:11:10pm

The sad thing is Coulter thinks she’s witty and has a strong following. She never would have gotten that if the sane conservatives st the time called her out.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:11:32pm

re: #346 petesh

Yeah. I hate to endorse anything Niall Ferguson wrote, but I’d just add that the dehumanization was pretty mutual. Check out Unbroken (the book, at least; I never saw the movie) for some very nasty behavior on the part of Japanese jailers and the like. A couple of my parents’ friends were forced to work on the Burma Railway (see Bridge of the River Kwai) and it obviously broke them, though they lived through it.

But then my dad, a Brit who was in Europe, never said anything about his WWII experiences except to note that he “walked up Italy.” When videos arrived, he bought only one, Oh! What a Lovely War — and insisted that everyone who visited watch it. Check it out, I’m sure it’s around somewhere.

My great uncles were in the Japanese Theater, they came back.

There was much hatred for the Japanese in my dad’s household.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:12:43pm

Like I needed another reminder of why I prefer critters to people

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Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:12:54pm

8000 people and growing in the shelters.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:13:29pm

re: #350 electrotek

No doubt about it. I didn’t want to downplay the Japanese brutality by any means, especially since my late grandfather fought against them in the Battle of Kohima, which is often referred to as the Stalingrad of the East.

I think the book of record on this may be John Dower’s War Without Mercy.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:13:44pm

re: #355 Stanley Sea

My great uncles were in the Japanese Theater, they came back.

There was much hatred for the Japanese in my dad’s household.

It’s interesting. I mentioned my grandfather being prejudiced but at the same time, I never saw any directed towards Koreans or Communists.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:14:06pm

re: #356 FormerDirtDart

Like I needed another reminder of why I prefer critters to people

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Why just why.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:15:02pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:15:44pm

re: #361 FormerDirtDart

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A rising tithe sure floats his boat.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:15:48pm
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freetoken  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:15:52pm

re: #357 Stanley Sea

As many of the residences now flooded will be uninhabitable even when the water goes down, the number of people needing long term housing solutions will be large.

This is a problem which will need to be addressed and it will take a large amount of money.

The idea of neighbors helping neighbors is a nice heart-warming story during the actual flood, but afterwards then what? The billions and billions of dollars to rebuild has to come from somewhere. Will these same Texans support raising taxes to pay for it?

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:16:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:21:13pm

re: #363 The Vicious Babushka

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Great article. Being supportive of the Jewish people is so much more than being a “strong supporter of Israel”.

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calochortus  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:21:48pm

re: #364 freetoken

As many of the residences now flooded will be uninhabitable even when the water goes down, the number of people needing long term housing solutions will be large.

This is a problem which will need to be addressed and it will take a large amount of money.

The idea of neighbors helping neighbors is a nice heart-warming story during the actual flood, but afterwards then what? The billions and billions of dollars to rebuild has to come from somewhere. Will these same Texans support raising taxes to pay for it?

Since the flooding was so extensive, a lot of it was in areas where flood insurance was not required. Apparently a very high percentage (2/3?) of the homes damaged were not covered by flood insurance.
So, in addition to an almost certain lack of qualified people available to rebuild homes, an awful lot of people just won’t have the money to do it. This has got to be a major hit to the area’s economy, to say nothing of the loss to the people who can’t rebuild.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:22:42pm

re: #363 The Vicious Babushka

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calochortus  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:24:14pm

re: #365 jaunte

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Good to hear they’re OK, and this isn’t a complaint directed at Jaunte, but rather the original tweeter: I’m sorry, but “young ladies?” Really? Since when is there something wrong with being old?

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freetoken  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:25:00pm

re: #367 calochortus

A few of the larger insurance companies were hit hard on equity trading, because they will show losses.

The bigger picture remains though of what to do with tens of thousands of displaced people. This means short term housing, supplies etc. Then the rebuilding has to be undertaken, and frankly I don’t understand why someone would want to rebuild in any areas of Harris county which have now been flooded on several occasions the past few years.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:25:34pm

re: #366 HappyWarrior

Great article. Being supportive of the Jewish people is so much more than being a “strong supporter of Israel”.

Especially when being “a strong supporter of Israel” really means, for them, “a strong supporter of Bibi”

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:25:46pm

Japanese twitter seems to be leaning alarmist as an official statement condemns launch as “grave and unprecedented threat.” He says, “not so fast; Japan was overshot in 1998 and 2009; must have accurate information, calmly delivered.”

Not in Abe’s interest, I’m guessing.

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こういう時こそ、情報は正確に。「我が国を飛び越えるミサイル発射という暴挙は、これまでにない深刻かつ重大な脅威」(今朝7:55首相)と言うが、98年にも09年にも飛び越えている。《これまでにない》という表現の安易な使用は、社会に”これまでにない”過剰反応を誘発する。的確に、冷静に!

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:25:50pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:26:13pm

re: #369 calochortus

Good to hear they’re OK, and this isn’t a complaint directed at Jaunte, but rather the original tweeter: I’m sorry, but “young ladies?” Really? Since when is there something wrong with being old?

So fucking patronizing.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:26:29pm

re: #371 The Vicious Babushka

Especially when being “a strong supporter of Israel” really means, for them, “a strong supporter of Bibi”

Exactly. We saw how they reacted when Sharon had his stroke.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:26:38pm

It’s like calling an elderly Black man “boy”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:26:55pm

re: #365 jaunte

“Crisis actors paid by Soros to make Trump look bad!”

No / because you know it’s coming.

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calochortus  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:27:23pm

re: #370 freetoken

A few of the larger insurance companies were hit hard on equity trading, because they will show losses.

The bigger picture remains though of what to do with tens of thousands of displaced people. This means short term housing, supplies etc. Then the rebuilding has to be undertaken, and frankly I don’t understand why someone would want to rebuild in any areas of Harris county which have now been flooded on several occasions the past few years.

Yeah, the whole thing is pretty ugly.

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calochortus  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:30:36pm

re: #376 The Vicious Babushka

It’s like calling an elderly Black man “boy”

Although I think the intent is a bit different. She’s probably trying to be cute and sweet and stuff.

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:30:44pm

re: #377 GlutenFreeJesus

I did see someone in the wingnutsphere call the original pic a photoshop.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:31:02pm

re: #378 calochortus

Yeah, the whole thing is pretty ugly.

There are still many people who haven’t recovered from Katrina.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:31:35pm

I’m just glad the old broads are ok.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:32:05pm
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Brian J.  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:32:36pm

re: #381 wheat-dogg

There are still many people who haven’t recovered from Katrina.

Tens of thousands of them in the Houston area.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:33:37pm

For the record, I’m seeing explanations that the Joel Osteen church that’s been accused on not taking in people seeking shelter—Lakewood—actually has extensive flooding and isn’t a safe refuge.

I don’t like Osteen or his mix of theology plus profitability, but….

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:34:16pm

re: #363 The Vicious Babushka

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And conversely, simply being “pro-Palestine” and being “anti-Zionist” doesn’t mean you can’t be an anti-Muslim bigot either. I’ve learned that the hard way in the past few years.

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calochortus  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:34:44pm

re: #377 GlutenFreeJesus

“Crisis actors paid by Soros to make Trump look bad!”

No / because you know it’s coming.

I wondered how much it cost Soros to have Houston flooded?

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:36:13pm

re: #385 The Ghost of a Flea

The place itself is probably dry, but the access roads to it are mostly flooded. It’s right on the SW Freeway (I-59). Most of the people who need shelter are miles away, or would have to cross a lot of flooded streets (coming from Meyerland).

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Targetpractice  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:38:06pm

re: #372 Barefoot Grin

Japanese twitter seems to be leaning alarmist as an official statement condemns launch as “grave and unprecedented threat.” He says, “not so fast; Japan was overshot in 1998 and 2009; must have accurate information, calmly delivered.”

Not in Abe’s interest, I’m guessing.

下村健一‏ @ken1shimomura 26m26 minutes ago
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こういう時こそ、情報は正確に。「我が国を飛び越えるミサイル発射という暴挙は、これまでにない深刻かつ重大な脅威」(今朝7:55首相)と言うが、98年にも09年にも飛び越えている。《これまでにない》という表現の安易な使用は、社会に”これまでにない”過剰反応を誘発する。的確に、冷静に!

The nationalists are having difficulty covering up their raging stiffy over recent events, as they think the “threat” of a North Korean nuke will push public opinion towards “revising” or simply doing away with Article 9. In keeping with the theme upthread, we rubbed the noses of the “Good Germans” in the raw sewage of their atrocities and turned the camps into constant reminders of the crimes done in their names. But most of Japan’s worst crimes happened in foreign lands, so the average guy on the street could convince himself after the war that the atrocities were overblown or even totally fictional. Men like Abe grew up in a Japan that was in total denial and it shows.

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freetoken  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:39:53pm

Some generic guy being interviewed on KHOU just bagged on New Orleans, saying they (during Katrina) were just putting out their hands hoping someone would help them, but here in Texas they take care of themselves.

These people.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:41:16pm
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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:41:32pm

re: #390 freetoken

Some generic guy being interviewed on KHOU just bagged on New Orleans, saying they (during Katrina) were just putting out their hands hoping someone would help them, but here in Texas they take care of themselves.

These people.

Not surprising that they would elevate themselves to a higher level due to some sense of superiority that is in their head.

Let me guess, was he white?

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gocart mozart  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:41:49pm
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FormerDirtDart  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:42:09pm
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:42:33pm

re: #389 Targetpractice

The nationalists are having difficulty covering up their raging stiffy over recent events, as they think the “threat” of a North Korean nuke will push public opinion towards “revising” or simply doing away with Article 9. In keeping with the theme upthread, we rubbed the noses of the “Good Germans” in the raw sewage of their atrocities and turned the camps into constant reminders of the crimes done in their names. But most of Japan’s worst crimes happened in foreign lands, so the average guy on the street could convince himself after the war that the atrocities were overblown or even totally fictional. Men like Abe grew up in a Japan that was in total denial and it shows.

Pretty good analysis, I think. There was also a part—maybe majority—of the population that came of age during the war and turned pacifist, some even anti-emperor, after the war. They are very old now. I know people on both sides, but the pacifists were of course more likely to talk with me about the war.

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freetoken  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:42:36pm

re: #392 electrotek

Dude was in a nice neighborhood next to a country club. They are experiencing the worst flooding in recent history, because the reservoirs have had to be opened up.

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Targetpractice  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:43:10pm

Ugh:

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:43:21pm
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bratwurst  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:45:49pm
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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:46:24pm

On another note, has anyone heard of this 4 part UK miniseries in the UK called The State on Channel 4? It’s supposed to air on National Geographic channel next month.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:46:26pm

re: #390 freetoken

Some generic guy being interviewed on KHOU just bagged on New Orleans, saying they (during Katrina) were just putting out their hands hoping someone would help them, but here in Texas they take care of themselves.

These people.

Sigh.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:46:27pm

re: #325 electrotek

Like this?

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Iirc correctly, the boyfriend was a naval officer. When the story appeared in Life magazine, the Navy seized the skull and buried it. This kind of barbarism was not official policy but Japanese atrocities like Nanking and the Bataan Death March certainly were.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:49:08pm

George Gigicos, the former White House director of advance who had organized the event as a contractor to the Republican National Committee. Trump later had his top security aide, Keith Schiller, inform Gigicos that he’d never manage a Trump rally again, according to three people familiar with the matter.

Keith Schiller knows ALL the secrets.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:50:19pm

re: #403 Stanley Sea

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Keith Schiller knows ALL the secrets.

Trump’s a baby.

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Brian J.  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:50:22pm

Remarkably wide area expected to get 6+ inches of rain during the rest of the week: the whole south Louisiana coast, western Louisiana up to near Shreveport, the eastern half of Arkansas, Memphis, Biloxi, Mobile…

nhc.noaa.gov

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:52:40pm

re: #405 Brian J.

Remarkably wide area expected to get 6+ inches of rain during the rest of the week: the whole south Louisiana coast, western Louisiana up to near Shreveport, the eastern half of Arkansas, Memphis, Biloxi, Mobile…

nhc.noaa.gov

I’m near Biloxi myself. Thanks to Katrina (yes, Mississippi got fucked up too, it wasn’t JUST New Orleans) people around here are well prepared. We may see some localized flooding but the worst case scenario I saw earlier was between 8-10”. That should be manageable.

I’m off work for the next two days at least (not due to the storm, my normal off days just happened to line up nicely).

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:53:43pm

re: #403 Stanley Sea

The other funny thing about this? Trump was mad about the crowd size, yet repeatedly during the rally he complained that the ‘Fake News Media’ wouldn’t turn the cameras to show the YOOOGE crowd. He’s just lucky none of them did, although I’d bet that not doing so was part of the deal.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:55:23pm

re: #407 Blind Frog Belly White

The other funny thing about this? Trump was mad about the crowd size, yet repeatedly during the rally he complained that the ‘Fake News Media’ wouldn’t turn the cameras to show the YOOOGE crowd. He’s just lucky none of them did, although I’d bet that not doing so was part of the deal.

He really is Lonesome Rhodes.

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calochortus  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:55:24pm

BBL

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:55:54pm

re: #390 freetoken

Some generic guy being interviewed on KHOU just bagged on New Orleans, saying they (during Katrina) were just putting out their hands hoping someone would help them, but here in Texas they take care of themselves.

These people.

Somebody slap the producer that had them air rather than delete that footage.

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gocart mozart  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:56:08pm
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bratwurst  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:56:45pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:56:53pm

re: #400 electrotek

On another note, has anyone heard of this 4 part UK miniseries in the UK called The State on Channel 4? It’s supposed to air on National Geographic channel next month.

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I have not heard. But-You got me at UK made drama.

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ObserverArt  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:57:19pm

re: #407 Blind Frog Belly White

The other funny thing about this? Trump was mad about the crowd size, yet repeatedly during the rally he complained that the ‘Fake News Media’ wouldn’t turn the cameras to show the YOOOGE crowd. He’s just lucky none of them did, although I’d bet that not doing so was part of the deal.

You wouldn’t expect him to not use his favorite well-worn lines about one of his base’s favorite targets would you?

Let’s not start using fact now.

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makeitstop  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:57:41pm

re: #407 Blind Frog Belly White

The other funny thing about this? Trump was mad about the crowd size, yet repeatedly during the rally he complained that the ‘Fake News Media’ wouldn’t turn the cameras to show the YOOOGE crowd. He’s just lucky none of them did, although I’d bet that not doing so was part of the deal.

And the fact that he watched reports on crowd size was probably the reason he kept downplaying the size of the crowd outside. He mentioned it a few times and every time he said something like ‘there aren’t many people outside.’

He was pissy because his supporters were outnumbered. He maybe better get used to that.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:58:30pm

re: #390 freetoken

Some generic guy being interviewed on KHOU just bagged on New Orleans, saying they (during Katrina) were just putting out their hands hoping someone would help them, but here in Texas they take care of themselves.

These people.

Gee, thanks, proud Texas stereotype dude. The whole world is watching and I’m sure they’ll be as impressed with your brain-dead arrogance as I am.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:58:43pm

re: #413 Unshaken Defiance

Edited-
I have not heard. But-You got me at UK made drama.

It’s from the same director who created Britz that had Riz Ahmed in the TV film too.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 5:59:08pm

re: #390 freetoken

Some generic guy being interviewed on KHOU just bagged on New Orleans, saying they (during Katrina) were just putting out their hands hoping someone would help them, but here in Texas they take care of themselves.

These people.

I hope there’s a video of it on social media.

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freetoken  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:00:39pm

re: #418 electrotek

I hope there’s a video of it on social media.

Don’t know. It was around 17:40 Pacific time, during the KHOU live feed on Facebook.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:00:45pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:04:47pm

I’m finally a little caught up on today’s threads and comments, tweets, links, etc.

Sure is a lot of “fake news” going around today.

Trump’s gonna have a lot to tweet about angrily tomorrow morning.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:05:58pm

As for self reliance, I remember the guy in New Orleans who took it upon himself to bury his neighbor lady because no one else was available to do it.

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freetoken  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:08:45pm

The surviving low level circulation still presents well on the rainbow IR:

Most of the rain for Harris county will be over by this time tomorrow, but between now and then they are going to get enough rain to make sure all the reservoirs and lakes are overflowing to record levels.

It was only a year and half ago that Houston has very serious flooding. Now this.

It’s going to be a tough decision to make, but I think a strong ethical case can be made for not rebuilding in some locations.

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Chrysicat  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:25:38pm

re: #410 Unshaken Defiance

Somebody slap the producer that had them air rather than delete that footage.

Why? If the people of Houston are that delusional, we prolly need to know about it, since they’ll be resettled throughout the centre of the country for the next 3 years like Katrina evacuees…


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