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freetoken  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:11:06pm

Repost from downstairs:

The surviving low level circulation still presents well on the rainbow IR:

Most of the rain for Harris county will be over by this time tomorrow, but between now and then they are going to get enough rain to make sure all the reservoirs and lakes are overflowing to record levels.

It was only a year and half ago that Houston has very serious flooding. Now this.

It’s going to be a tough decision to make, but I think a strong ethical case can be made for not rebuilding in some locations.

****

This is all beyond Trump’s capability to lead. He’s just not able to have the empathy and does not have the skills or interest to be a leader. Trump’s coalition of know-nothings and corporate grifters can only be destructive.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:13:23pm

“Armed illiterates will be beaten with sticks.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:13:27pm

White supremacists.

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Belafon  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:14:19pm

re: #2 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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“Armed illiterates will be beaten with sticks.”

I feel so safe. //

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JordanRules  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:14:55pm

re: #2 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

One of them is going to accidentally shoot one of the others.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:16:09pm
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JordanRules  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:17:08pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:18:52pm

The Wall is first, then come the Camps, and finally the Ovens, unless tr*mp is stopped.

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Belafon  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:19:40pm

re: #8 EPR-radar

Put down whatever you’re smoking/drinking.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:20:38pm

Well, now we know where the “Obama golfing during Katrina” spiel is coming from.
It’s almost funny how some RWNJs just regurgitate this stuff

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I cannot.  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:22:26pm

The Ratio knows the truth. Damn.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:22:57pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:24:45pm

re: #12 The Vicious Babushka

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If Hillary had been elected and Chelsea and her Hubby did even one single thing that Jared and Ivanka did, the Republican BS machine would have melted down!

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ObserverArt  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:26:20pm

re: #7 JordanRules

Can anyone tell me how Milo Yiannopoulos got seated behind @chancetherapper at the #MTVVMAs ???
9:08 PM - Aug 27, 2017

Is that Sean Combs sitting next to him?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:28:53pm

re: #14 ObserverArt

Is that Sean Combs sitting next to him?

Art, why yes it is and now we know why Milo’s there!

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Varek Raith  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:32:13pm
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JordanRules  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:34:46pm

re: #14 ObserverArt

Nah. I don’t think he attended, from what I’ve seen.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:35:53pm

re: #12 The Vicious Babushka

A NYC friend of Jared & Ivanka says they miss the city, & that DC “punctures their self-esteem on a daily basis.”

They miss their safe space.
Snowflakes

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Chrysicat  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:41:30pm

Rescued from downstairs yet again [why am I always responding after we’ve moved along?!?]

re: #410 Unshaken Defiance

Somebody slap the producer that had them air rather than delete that footage.

Why? If the people of Houston are that delusional, we prolly need to know about it, since they’ll be resettled throughout the centre of the country for the next 3 years like Katrina evacuees…

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:42:32pm

Meanwhile, there is literally an army’s worth of high-wheelbase vehicles at Ft Hood that would be of great help

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:44:29pm

re: #12 The Vicious Babushka

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Waaah. Then just resign already. Oh wait, that would mean less undue enrichment.

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Chrysicat  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:44:50pm

re: #20 FormerDirtDart

Meanwhile, there is literally an army’s worth of high-wheelbase vehicles at Ft Hood that would be of great help

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Didn’t I read somewhere yesterday that with moving water, those are in almost as much trouble as normal cars, because their huge tires give them positive bouyancy?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:46:13pm

My, My, My! The Pulpit Pimp finally relents after he gets his ass roasted on Twitter?

crooksandliars.com

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:46:50pm

re: #7 JordanRules

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So sick of Milo. Wish he would go the fuck away.

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EPR-radar  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:49:50pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

So sick of Milo. Wish he would go the fuck away.

Me too. The fact that these RWNJ creeps can make lucrative careers out of their hate is just disgusting.

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Varek Raith  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:50:00pm

re: #23 Joe Bacon 🌹

“Prosperity Gospel” is so messed up.

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JordanRules  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:50:36pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:51:33pm

re: #25 EPR-radar

Me too. The fact that these RWNJ creeps can make lucrative careers out of their hate is just disgusting.

He’s making a pretty penny while your average Millenial is struggling to find decent work based off his or her degree and pay off debts. He’s made a career out of hate as you say.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:56:25pm

re: #25 EPR-radar

Me too. The fact that these RWNJ creeps can make lucrative careers out of their hate is just disgusting.

Porn.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:57:05pm

re: #28 HappyWarrior

He’s making a pretty penny while your average Millenial is struggling to find decent work based off his or her degree and pay off debts. He’s made a career out of hate as you say.

And that will continue as long as Rebekkah Mercer keeps the cash flowing into that freak’s bank account.

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teleskiguy  Aug 28, 2017 • 6:58:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:02:27pm

re: #30 Joe Bacon 🌹

And that will continue as long as Rebekkah Mercer keeps the cash flowing into that freak’s bank account.

The Hate Market.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:03:10pm

OT guys but have any you watched Atypical yet? I know we have some other Lizards on the spectrum or those with loved ones. I think it’s quite good. One of the better spectrum portrayals I’ve seen.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:04:37pm

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Chrysicat  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:04:46pm

re: #30 Joe Bacon 🌹

I can understand what cishet American watercarriers get out of it–I wouldn’t in the least be surprised that part of the Koch/Mercer constitution is to remove the ban on titles of nobility, and they’ve been promised petty baronies or something–but what exactly is driving Milo, who has to know that Russian-style “beat away the gay” laws are going to come along with it–and that those are mandatory in Russia?

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Interesting Times  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:05:17pm

re: #29 The Ghost of a Flea

Porn.

You have no idea how on-point that metaphor is - just read this gem Sergey/Nyet dug up a few years ago o_O

All “dittoheads” remember the first time they experienced Rush Limbaugh. For conservatives, it was very exciting and extremely pleasurable; the exhilaration of finally hearing someone in the media validate one’s views and beliefs was almost unbearable. For others (leftists if you will, contrary to whatever euphemism they choose to hide behind), it was bitter, painful, and disillusioning; the humiliation of hearing someone in the media skillfully and gleefully slaughter each of one’s sacred cows was equally almost unbearable. I suppose one could say that the experience is somewhat like losing one’s sexual virginity.

Though I wouldn’t have called myself a conservative at the time, and certainly not a Republican, my “deflowering” was a most memorable and pleasant experience.

So…yeah…having their prejudices, bigotries, and petty self-puffing other-blaming validated is quite literally a sexually pleasurable experience.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:05:25pm

re: #35 Chrysicat

I can understand what cishet American watercarriers get out of it–I wouldn’t in the least be surprised that part of the Koch/Mercer constitution is to remove the ban on titles of nobility, and they’ve been promised petty baronies or something–but what exactly is driving Milo, who has to know that Russian-style “beat away the gay” laws are going to come along with it–and that those are mandatory in Russia?

He probably figures. He’ll make his penny and then go back to the UK.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:07:25pm

re: #36 Interesting Times

You have no idea how on-point that metaphor is - just read this gem Sergey/Nyet dug up a few years ago o_O

All “dittoheads” remember the first time they experienced Rush Limbaugh. For conservatives, it was very exciting and extremely pleasurable; the exhilaration of finally hearing someone in the media validate one’s views and beliefs was almost unbearable. For others (leftists if you will, contrary to whatever euphemism they choose to hide behind), it was bitter, painful, and disillusioning; the humiliation of hearing someone in the media skillfully and gleefully slaughter each of one’s sacred cows was equally almost unbearable. I suppose one could say that the experience is somewhat like losing one’s sexual virginity.

Though I wouldn’t have called myself a conservative at the time, and certainly not a Republican, my “deflowering” was a most memorable and pleasant experience.

So…yeah…having their prejudices, bigotries, and petty self-puffing other-blaming validated is quite literally a sexually pleasurable experience.

That’s funny because I’ve always described FNC’s formula (Good looking young women whose talking points sound like Rush’s) are a form of political pornography for conservatives and wingnuts. I don’t need media to validate my worldview. I have my own unique one as a product of my experiences, readings, perceptions, etc. I don’t need some blowhard to tell me how ot think.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:08:00pm

re: #22 Chrysicat

Didn’t I read somewhere yesterday that with moving water, those are in almost as much trouble as normal cars, because their huge tires give them positive bouyancy?

That’s more the case with the civilian modified 4x4s and pickups. Sure fast moving water can be a hazard to any vehicle, but military truck are designed to do water crossings. Remember, it was Army HEMTTs that first reached the Superdome after Katrina, and FMTVs that provided transport later during search and rescue/recovery operation. Most of the people being rescued now by small boats could likely be reached by these vehicles. And, those that need boat rescue still need transport after reaching shallower water

HEMTT

FMTV
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Interesting Times  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:10:12pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

That’s funny because I’ve always described FNC’s formula (Good looking young women whose talking points sound like Rush’s) are a form of political pornography for conservatives and wingnuts. I don’t need media to validate my worldview. I have my own unique one as a product of my experiences, readings, perceptions, etc. I don’t need some blowhard to tell me how ot think.

I’m even more grossed out (if that were possible) when I look at that old quote from a limbaugh-lover and realize it describes exactly how the trumpchumps feel about their “God-Emperor” :X

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:10:13pm

re: #35 Chrysicat

I can understand what cishet American watercarriers get out of it–I wouldn’t in the least be surprised that part of the Koch/Mercer constitution is to remove the ban on titles of nobility, and they’ve been promised petty baronies or something–but what exactly is driving Milo, who has to know that Russian-style “beat away the gay” laws are going to come along with it–and that those are mandatory in Russia?

Milo is stupid enough to believe that Radical Republican KKKristians will not come after him.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:10:55pm

re: #40 Interesting Times

I’m even more grossed-out (if that were possible) when I look at that old quote from a limbaugh-lover and realize it describes exactly how the trumpchumps feel about their “God-Emperor” :X

No doubt.

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meteor  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:12:30pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Amen!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:12:36pm

Honestly, I always saw Rush as a miserable piece of shit. Here you had this middle aged overweight guy who was making his name by calling a thirteen year old Chelsea Clinton a dog. I always had this idea that Rush who came of age in the late 60’s and early 70’s got rejected by some hippie chick and has held a grudge against liberals ever since since many of them were much more content with themselves than he was.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:13:35pm
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KGxvi  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:14:21pm

re: #1 freetoken

What places would you suggest not rebuilding?

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:14:37pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

Honestly, I always saw Rush as a miserable piece of shit. Here you had this middle aged overweight guy who was making his name by calling a thirteen year old Chelsea Clinton a dog. I always had this idea that Rush who came of age in the late 60’s and early 70’s got rejected by some hippie chick and has held a grudge against liberals ever since since many of them were much more content with themselves than he was.

Now you have Steve Crowder whose entire shtick consists of regurgitating old Limbaugh “feminazi” jokes from the ‘90’s.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:15:22pm

re: #45 The Vicious Babushka

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I honestly don’t really care about the spelling and grammar too much. Though he is doing this tweets as President so the whole “Well who doesn’t” is lame sauce but yes the retweeting the white supremacists and KKK lovers is much worse.

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gocart mozart  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:17:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:17:03pm

re: #47 The Vicious Babushka

Now you have Steve Crowder whose entire shtick consists of regurgitating old Limbaugh “feminazi” jokes from the ‘90’s.

Oh man I fucking really hate that dude because he and Baby Whiplash are a big reason why one of my good friends became a right wing nut. But you’re right. All of Crowder’s “insightful” points are nothing more than recycled bullshit and they say they don’t believe in recycling, ha!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:17:53pm

re: #49 gocart mozart

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You’d think that a Sheriff would know that but then again Arpaio thinks himself above the law.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:18:07pm

re: #48 HappyWarrior

I honestly don’t really care about the spelling and grammar too much. Though he is doing this tweets as President so the whole “Well who doesn’t” is lame sauce but yes the retweeting the white supremacists and KKK lovers is much worse.

Nobody cares about typos. I don’t understand what is with the “failing” NY Times. Why are they sucking Trump’s ass?

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JordanRules  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:18:36pm

re: #45 The Vicious Babushka

Normalization of this regime does not look good on you NYT!

Sometimes I feel like they are trolling us. So ridiculous.

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ThomasLite  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:18:46pm

re: #39 FormerDirtDart

Yup. Those puppies tend to have a fairly low CoG (it does help, certainly in strong winds) and a ‘bulkier’ weight to tire volume ratio IIRC as well as tires which are much more suited to operating in several inches of water than any normal road tire could hope to be.

…Also, trained, competent drivers. That makes a bloody big difference in tough(er) conditions.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:18:52pm

re: #52 The Vicious Babushka

Nobody cares about typos. I don’t understand what is with the “failing” NY Times. Why are they sucking Trump’s ass?

Yeah I don’t get it either. I wish they’d stop kissing his ass. Call him out for what he fucking is.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:19:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:20:06pm

re: #53 JordanRules

Normalization of this regime does not look good on you NYT!

Sometimes I feel like they are trolling us. So ridiculous.

What’s frustrating to me is the pathetically low expectation he gets. Saw earlier that Noonan was saying he was semi stable. Oh semi stable? That’s what we want from our President? Meanwhile these are the same people who found fault with every last goddamned thing President Obama did from the suits he wore to what he put on his food.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:20:14pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:20:28pm

re: #50 HappyWarrior

Oh man I fucking really hate that dude because he and Baby Whiplash are a big reason why one of my good friends became a right wing nut. But you’re right. All of Crowder’s “insightful” points are nothing more than recycled bullshit and they say they don’t believe in recycling, ha!

Chowder & Whipsies have no original thoughts. They think if they plagiarize some lame bullshit that their icon said before they were born, nobody will ever know.

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KGxvi  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:20:46pm

re: #49 gocart mozart

Its an unconditional pardon. That may mean he doesn’t have to admit guilt.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:21:05pm

re: #59 The Vicious Babushka

Chowder & Whipsies have no original thoughts. They think if they plagiarize some lame bullshit that their icon said before they were born, nobody will ever know.

Yep and then people like my buddy post it as “insightful.” Same bullshit.

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Mike Lamb  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:21:22pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

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Lemme guess…he doesn’t want to waste tax payer money on the investigation…but he will have no issue giving unfunded tax cuts to the rich…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:21:41pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

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Frank Turner had a good song that he performed not long after Trump was inaugurated. I agree though, we need more protest music.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:21:58pm

re: #62 Mike Lamb

Lemme guess…he doesn’t want to waste tax payer money on the investigation…but he will have no issue giving unfunded tax cuts to the rich…

Duh. Sorry but yeah that’s exactly it.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:25:47pm

Some resources or recommendations for those who might be looking to help:

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teleskiguy  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:26:02pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

Rush Limbaugh

Edit: I should append a STRONG LANGUAGE warning.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:28:14pm

re: #66 teleskiguy

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Video

DUDE!

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:28:37pm

re: #54 ThomasLite

Yup. Those puppies tend to have a fairly low CoG (it does help, certainly in strong winds) and a ‘bulkier’ weight to tire volume ratio IIRC as well as tires which are much more suited to operating in several inches of water than any normal road tire could hope to be.

…Also, trained, competent drivers. That makes a bloody big difference in tough(er) conditions.

yeah, you look at them but don’t think they weigh as much as the do. An empty HEMTT runs over 20 tons, the FMTV pictured over 11 tons. Plus, most now have armored cabs (not pictured) which adds more weight.

I saw this yesterday and thought brilliant. High wheelbase, and massive weight. Here’s a practical use for those MRAPs handed to local law enforcement.

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KGxvi  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:30:11pm

Also, reading that Burdock case, I think that line about accepting a pardon means admitting guilt is dicta because the issue was whether someone could refuse a pardon

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Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:32:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:33:33pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

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Hey Sean, how’s that Trump shaped egg feel on your head?

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:33:46pm

Novelist Carol Morgan unloads on Osteen:

Word has now arrived that the good pastor is in fact opening his church, but only after a worldwide outcry. Mattress guy opened his places as soon as they could unlock the doors.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:34:19pm

re: #69 KGxvi

Also, reading that Burdock case, I think that line about accepting a pardon means admitting guilt is dicta because the issue was whether someone could refuse a pardon

Yes, but the underlying principle was that Burdick wanted to refuse the pardon so that he could continue to refuse answering any questions about his sources that might place him in legal jeopardy. Meaning that Burdick is on point with regards to Arpaio no longer being able to plead the 5th in any civil proceedings where the questions relate to activities covered by the pardon.

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KGxvi  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:38:08pm

re: #73 goddamnedfrank

Yes, but the underlying principle was that Burdick wanted to refuse the pardon so that he could continue to refuse answering any questions about his sources that might place him in legal jeopardy. Meaning that Burdick is on point with regards to Arpaio no longer being able to plead the 5th in any civil proceedings where the questions relate to activities covered by the pardon.

That is very true. I’d have to see the District Court’s ruling from July on the criminal contempt charges to know just how far that actually goes. But I think lay people are using Burdock to say things that it doesn’t actually say (specifically that Arpaio is admitting guilt by accepting the pardon). And Arpaio’s attorneys cited some othe cases that I don’t have the desire to look up that apply to the rather unique procedural facts of this case.

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EPR-radar  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:40:32pm

re: #73 goddamnedfrank

Yes, but the underlying principle was that Burdick wanted to refuse the pardon so that he could continue to refuse answering any questions about his sources that might place him in legal jeopardy. Meaning that Burdick is on point with regards to Arpaio no longer being able to plead the 5th in any civil proceedings where the questions relate to activities covered by the pardon.

So what happens if Arpaio improperly pleads the 5th? The normal response would be contempt of court, but we all know how that would end up.

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gocart mozart  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:42:20pm
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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:44:15pm

re: #75 EPR-radar

So what happens if Arpaio improperly pleads the 5th? The normal response would be contempt of court, but we all know how that would end up.

Then Arpaio and his buddy the president* whip up a mob against the judge.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:44:32pm

re: #74 KGxvi

That is very true. I’d have to see the District Court’s ruling from July on the criminal contempt charges to know just how far that actually goes. But I think lay people are using Burdock to say things that it doesn’t actually say (specifically that Arpaio is admitting guilt by accepting the pardon). And Arpaio’s attorneys cited some othe cases that I don’t have the desire to look up that apply to the rather unique procedural facts of this case.

The Burdick dicta is well reasoned though in that there’s an established solution for someone in Arpaio’s position who doesn’t want to serve jail time but does want to maintain their innocence, to ask for a commutation instead. If someone is truly not guilty then that’s a conclusion only the courts can come to via due process, and the pardon doesn’t erase that so much as it sidesteps it with executive action.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:44:38pm

re: #76 gocart mozart

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He thinks he’s so smart.

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freetoken  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:44:44pm

re: #46 KGxvi

What places would you suggest not rebuilding?

It will take a full assessment of the region to determine what is susceptible to floods more than say every 50 years.

The problem is that the current maps are drawn on what was experienced in the early part of the 20th century, and are not sufficient for the 21st century.

The current flooding is meeting the old criteria for once in a 500 years or once in 1000 years. All that stuff is now outdated.

But this is another thing Trump has undone: Obama’s strategy to prepare America for climate change.

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:45:10pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:46:35pm

A 21-year-old mountain climber died Sunday on Capitol Peak above Aspen, the fifth in two months - apparently after attempting a precarious shortcut descent that leads to a 600-foot cliff.

Pitkin County authorities declined to identify the man, pending notification of his family. Sheriff’s Sgt. Jesse Steindler said the man fell at almost exactly the same point as an Aspen couple who died one week ago. Steindler lamented an increasing flow of people compelled to bag “fourteeners” — peaks that exceed 14,000 feet elevation — a heavily promoted recreational pursuit that draws inexperienced hikers to Colorado’s high country.

I’ve climbed three 14ers in the Elk Range, Capitol Peak is not one of them. The nuttiest route I’ve done was the tour de Pyramid on Pyramid Peak (rated Class 4), ascending the northwest ridge and descending the northeast ridge. I was with my brother-in-law, who’s climbed Denali and Mt. Rainier, so I was in good hands. I learned a great deal about mountaineering on Pyramid Peak, which is about 10 miles away from Capitol Peak, where five people have lost their lives this summer. I learned that you always wear a helmet for anything Class 3 and above, and you follow the route *exactly* which sometimes involves map and compass work.

My condolences the the five people who’ve died on Capitol Peak this summer.

☹️

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:48:48pm

re: #81 jaunte

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The pardon was bad enough. Arpaio’s attitude after the fact agh.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:48:53pm

Yes, this is where Harvey is forecasted to go back ashore.
350 gators used to a feeding schedule. What could go wrong

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:50:52pm

re: #83 HappyWarrior

And all the surrogates (Steve King, Rick Santorum) are out there pushing the ‘he didn’t do nothing wrong’ story.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:51:16pm

If you’re a professed Christian who has to be guilted into helping desperate people in their time of need you obviously have no fucking clue about Christianity.

Christ talked about these people in the Bible and basically said “if you think you can talk the talk but not walk the walk and still get into Heaven then you’re in for a nasty surprise.”

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Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:51:42pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:51:45pm

re: #84 FormerDirtDart

Yes, this is where Harvey is forecasted to go back ashore.
350 gators used to a feeding schedule. What could go wrong

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Gatornado?

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Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:52:51pm

re: #84 FormerDirtDart

Yes, this is where Harvey is forecasted to go back ashore.
350 gators used to a feeding schedule. What could go wrong

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Love the stands.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:53:23pm

re: #85 jaunte

And all the surrogates (Steve King, Rick Santorum) are out there pushing the ‘he didn’t do nothing wrong’ story.

Of course they are. Assholes defending another asshole.

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:53:58pm

UPDATE 8:30 PM MONDAY - A mandatory evacuation has been issued for residents in the Northwood Pines subdivision in Spring due to possible levee failure. Evacuees should go to the shelter at Spring High School. Officials warned if residents do not evacuate before 11 p.m., they may not be able to get out.
abc13.com

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:54:05pm

re: #87 Charles Johnson

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It literally is the worst thing that could happen. Sigh.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:54:08pm

re: #75 EPR-radar

So what happens if Arpaio improperly pleads the 5th? The normal response would be contempt of court, but we all know how that would end up.

Trump can’t pardon federal civil contempt findings or the fines and coercive jail time incurred. Arpaio’s criminal case was actually really rare because only the absolute biggest assholes even think of defying a federal court injunction.

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gocart mozart  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:54:30pm

Someone asked who Cernovich, the guy was I was debating about Arpario yesterday. This guy

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 7:57:04pm

re: #94 gocart mozart

Someone asked who Cernovich, the guy was I was debating about Arpario yesterday. This guy

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Lol Antifa hates Hillary and the mainstream left but sure Mike sure, btw still leaching off your ex?

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Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:00:48pm
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FormerDirtDart  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:02:00pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:02:28pm

re: #95 HappyWarrior

Lol Antifa hates Hillary and the mainstream left but sure Mike sure, btw still leaching off your ex?

They’re not interested in describing reality.

It’s true because that’s what they need the truth to be.

And, given power, they will make it the truth for everybody.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:02:55pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:04:25pm

The fucking right wing monsters I’ve been trying to fight against for years are now in charge of the federal government. Difficult for me to express how upsetting and depressing this is.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:04:28pm

re: #99 FormerDirtDart

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Glad the pressure worked. Osteen is still a fraud though who uses religion only for his own enrichment.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:05:43pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

The fucking right wing monsters I’ve been trying to fight against for years are now in charge of the federal government. Difficult for me to express how upsetting and depressing this is.

I’m still upset at how they stole the court vacancy. Gorsuch being there instead of Garland is going to have a negative impact.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:06:02pm

They’re going to Austin you poor people.

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Varek Raith  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:06:12pm

re: #101 HappyWarrior

Glad the pressure worked. Osteen is still a fraud though who uses religion only for his own enrichment.

It’s times like this I wished there really was an afterlife.
He’d be…disappointed, to say the least.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:06:33pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:06:34pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:07:18pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:07:37pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

It really is like a bad dream you can’t wake up from. We’re in alternate 1985 and Biff controls everything.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:07:57pm

re: #105 Varek Raith

It’s times like this I wished there really was an afterlife.
He’d be…disappointed, to say the least.

Although I’m Agnostic, I’m definitely influenced by my forefathers Catholicism. Cannot imagine my great uncle’s parish doing this and they were much smaller than that behemoth Osteen calls a church.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:08:33pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

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A person who believes in Nuremberg citizenship laws. King is a modern day Nazi.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:09:09pm

re: #108 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Props to the HIS.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:09:09pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:09:38pm

re: #105 Varek Raith

It’s times like this I wished there really was an afterlife.
He’d be…disappointed, to say the least.

Spending eternity hip-deep in molten lead seems like a good fate for these prosperity gospel hacks.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:10:10pm

re: #113 electrotek

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Fucking dickbags.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:11:27pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:12:36pm

Because of course he did

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Varek Raith  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:13:07pm

I own swords and welcome refugees to the US.
/Manlyman.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:14:17pm

re: #118 Varek Raith

I own swords and welcome refugees to the US.
/Manlyman.

Not to do the real man stuff but a real man isn’t paranoid about newcomers.

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EPR-radar  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:14:37pm

re: #117 gocart mozart

Reminds me of the idiot RWNJ with the story of the black Obama-supporting thug carving a letter into her face.

Quite the talented thug, to be able to carve a mirror-reversed version of the letter.

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EPR-radar  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:15:38pm

re: #119 HappyWarrior

Not to do the real man stuff but a real man isn’t paranoid about newcomers.

Seeing threats everywhere and trying to exterminate them is cowardice.

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allegro  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:15:50pm

re: #99 FormerDirtDart

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As if the teachings of Jesus had anything to do with it.

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Varek Raith  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:16:35pm

REAL MEN HULL TANK.

/Eve Online

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:16:36pm

re: #113 electrotek

So why is that image tagged with eatliver.com?

Also, is that a game sprite or a maquette on the left?

I mean, this kind of fallacy envies that substance and weight of the straw man.

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Jay C  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:16:46pm

———

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:16:52pm

re: #121 EPR-radar

Seeing threats everywhere and trying to exterminate them is cowardice.

It is.

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gocart mozart  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:16:59pm

re: #116 goddamnedfrank

Extensive fisking of Gorka’s fake doctorate in three parts

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EPR-radar  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:17:29pm

re: #125 Jay C

Wasn’t it the other way around? The idiot carved a “B” on her cheek (backwards because mirror and idiot) and tried to pass it off as an “attack” by thuggish Obama-supporters??

That’s exactly what I was referring to, sarcastically.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:18:51pm

I’m such a badass. I’m a skeered of anyone who has a different skin tone and accent than me.

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EPR-radar  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:19:51pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

I’m such a badass. I’m a skeered of anyone who has a different skin tone and accent than me.

RWNJs routinely shit themselves in fear and call it courage.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:21:36pm

re: #130 EPR-radar

RWNJs routinely shit themselves in fear and call it courage.

There’s nothing courageous about open carrying to a fast food restaurant.

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Varek Raith  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:22:10pm

re: #131 HappyWarrior

There’s nothing courageous about open carrying to a fast food restaurant.

Unless it’s Cajun.
;)

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Jay C  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:24:02pm

re: #128 EPR-radar

Yep. My mis-read. Sorry.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:32:40pm

Fake News. Leia’s holograms were actually important.

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gocart mozart  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:39:16pm

Reminds me of a joke:
Q. Why is drinking a budweiser like making love on a beach?
A. Because it’s fucking close to water that’s why!

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teleskiguy  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:41:06pm

re: #135 gocart mozart

Change “on the beach” to “in a boat,” that works too.

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LastYearsMan  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:42:34pm

re: #52 The Vicious Babushka

Nobody cares about typos. I don’t understand what is with the “failing” NY Times. Why are they sucking Trump’s ass?

I think you are overthinking how much thinking goes into a newspaper’s Twitter feed. It’s probably some overworked junior copy editor. Or lower, depending on the time of day.

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gocart mozart  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:45:57pm

We have reached peak idiot.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:51:44pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:56:50pm
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Belafon  Aug 28, 2017 • 8:59:52pm

re: #60 KGxvi

Its an unconditional pardon. That may mean he doesn’t have to admit guilt.

Reading through the law, some seem to question whether it’s an admission of guilt, though others say the 1915 case means that accepting it means you admit guilt. What does seem to be the truth is that accepting any kind of pardon means you give up your 5th amendment rights related to that case, which is why the 1915 case was about accepting the pardon.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:05:14pm

re: #41 Joe Bacon 🌹

Milo is stupid enough to believe that Radical Republican KKKristians will not come after him.

He’ll be eaten last.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:09:42pm

re: #140 gocart mozart

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There’s a reporter with her face in her hands.

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allegro  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:11:32pm

v mzxs <—- kitten

Those gold curtains are ghastly.

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mmmirele  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:13:49pm

re: #144 allegro

v mzxs <—- kitten

Those gold curtains are ghastly.

They’d look better with kittens clawing their way up them.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:14:06pm

re: #144 allegro

v mzxs <—- kitten

Those gold curtains are ghastly.

Hi kittens!

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:14:30pm

Sometimes I ask myself why I couldn’t be politically apathetic like many others. I’d probably be a happier person instead of being so passionate and emotional.

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allegro  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:14:34pm

re: #145 mmmirele

They’d look better with kittens clawing their way up them.

My kittens are only 9 weeks old and have better taste.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:17:36pm

re: #148 allegro

My kittens are only 9 weeks old and have better taste.

Not terribly hard, though.

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retired cynic  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:18:04pm

re: #147 electrotek

Sometimes I ask myself why I couldn’t be politically apathetic like many others. I’d probably be a happier person instead of being so passionate and emotional.

I think a number of us are wishing we could turn it off for a respite.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:19:51pm

re: #150 retired cynic

I think a number of us are wishing we could turn it off for a respite.

Would have been easier had Clinton won.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:24:04pm

re: #138 gocart mozart

We have reached peak idiot.

This is a particularly guignol version of the old “child king with advisor whispering in his ear.”

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petesh  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:25:27pm

re: #150 retired cynic

Music is your only friend …

This evening I’m shuffling, and The Whisperers are playing “I’ve Got No Time” from a collection called Street Corner Symphonies: The Complete Story of Doo Wop, vol. 2: 1950. Works for me. In the last hour or so, I’ve had “Ice Man’s Blues” by Tom Archia; “13 Ghosts II” by Nine Inch Nails; “Trail of Broken Hearts” by k.d. lang; “Bossa Nova USA” by The Dave Brubeck Quartet; plus Keith Richards singing Buddy Holly, Robert Johnson Ramblin’, Beatles Blackbird … shuffle been doin’ me proud.

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retired cynic  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:25:53pm

re: #151 electrotek

Would have been easier had Clinton won.

It would have been hateful. This 25-30% of the population would have been all over the place, and the NYT and the Bros would have been sniping at her from behind. At least we would still have a lot of our international standing. Domestically, with a congress all R, it would have been bad.

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teleskiguy  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:27:43pm
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allegro  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:30:49pm

As I sit here with my dog snuggled next to my leg, one kitten in between my legs (I’m sitting on the bed) and the other kitten next to me purring, all comfy inside with the AC, a glass of wine and full pipe… an idyllic moment under most any other circumstances and…

I AM STRESSED THE FUCK OUT WILL THIS FUCKING RAIN EVER STOP!!

I’m thinking of the dam fixin to break, i.e. “uncontrolled release” in one area and levees about to fail in a couple of others, i.e. New Orleans revisited. The Brazos river will be busting out within hours reaching record high. All of this is in the OMFG worse than the worst case scenario. All at once. Unimaginable.

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retired cynic  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:32:45pm

re: #156 allegro

I am so sorry. Have been through many floods, and lost two houses, and my sympathy and empathy is with you!!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:35:21pm

re: #156 allegro

The idea that it will be Wednesday is little comfort.

Can I distract you and pick your brains on crochet hooks?

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:39:49pm

re: #138 gocart mozart

Like trying to steer an elephant they’re riding by throwing peanuts out in front of him.

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allegro  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:43:01pm

re: #157 retired cynic

I am so sorry. Have been through many floods, and lost two houses, and my sympathy and empathy is with you!!

Thing is, I’m pretty sure I’m safe (serendipity?) so I’m whining from a place of great privilege and comfort. My “ordeal” will be over in a few hours. I got no right to whine, but fuck it, I’m whining anyway. And drinking. Calling it self defense.

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retired cynic  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:43:51pm

re: #160 allegro

Thing is, I’m pretty sure I’m safe (serendipity?) so I’m whining from a place of great privilege and comfort. My “ordeal” will be over in a few hours. I got no right to whine, but fuck it, I’m whining anyway. And drinking. Calling it self defense.

Let ‘er rip!

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retired cynic  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:44:13pm

re: #161 retired cynic

Let ‘er rip!

Got any cheese to accompany the whine?

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petesh  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:44:55pm

re: #156 allegro

Turn off your mind, relax and float downstream
It is not dying, it is not dying

Lay down all thoughts, surrender to the void
It is shining, it is shining

Definitely a moment for the eternal now. Tomorrow will come and you will deal with it when it appears. Hang in there, we are all with you in spirit. Well, wine in my case; may need to switch to scotch or other spirituous liquor.

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retired cynic  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:46:35pm

re: #163 petesh

Prosecco here. Last bit of the bottle. And a brownie.

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allegro  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:46:37pm

re: #162 retired cynic

Got any cheese to accompany the whine?

Only enough to top the chili dog. :) Hurricanes demand chili dogs.

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allegro  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:47:45pm

re: #163 petesh

Definitely a moment for the eternal now. Tomorrow will come and you will deal with it when it appears. Hang in there, we are all with you in spirit. Well, wine in my case; may need to switch to scotch or other spirituous liquor.

Beatles still rule. Eternal upding.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:48:18pm

Jared and Ivanka are just astoundingly naïve.

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electrotek  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:54:09pm

Anyone else openly admit they voted for Hillary when asked and don’t regret it?

I have nothing to be ashamed of voting for her. I’m still with her no matter what.

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teleskiguy  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:56:36pm

re: #168 electrotek

Anyone else openly admit they voted for Hillary when asked and don’t regret it?

I have nothing to be ashamed of voting for her. I’m still with her no matter what.

Giphy

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teleskiguy  Aug 28, 2017 • 9:59:48pm

re: #168 electrotek

I had an ‘a-hah’ moment in March when I vistied a friend I haven’t seen in a number of years. My dude is a rabid gun owner and tends toward the libertarian side (ugh!) but one night over ribs and whisky we got to talking about the election and he blurted out “Dude, I voted for Hillary, she was the only option!”

We hugged it out and continued to eat ribs and drink whisky and listen to Operation Ivy.

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allegro  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:01:52pm

re: #158 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The idea that it will be Wednesday is little comfort.

Can I distract you and pick your brains on crochet hooks?

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retired cynic  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:01:52pm

re: #170 teleskiguy

He’s sane.

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BigPapa  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:03:35pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:04:09pm

I’ve been open about my 2016 vote for President on Twitter.

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teleskiguy  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:09:37pm

Blows my mind that Ivanka Trump is a senior adviser to Fuckface Von Clownstick. I’m older than her by a mere five months. Must be nice growing up with a silver spoon in your ass.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:09:57pm

Looks like North Korea is up to their shenanigans again.

bbc.com

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JordanRules  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:17:08pm

It’s all linked, all of the fuckery is linked. There are no distractions.

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teleskiguy  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:18:28pm

Let’s hand out some badges to the crazies!

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allegro  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:20:17pm

TFW you’ve been holed up riding out a hurricane and flooding for almost 5 days and a neighbor gave you grass cuz you gave him and his girlfriend Beef Stroganoff (and a lovely salad - I’m no heathen even in a hurricane) and it’s after midnight and… and then… you walk into the kitchen and see the bag of OMG DORITOS! that you forgot you bought last week before the storm.

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teleskiguy  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:23:57pm

re: #179 allegro

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allegro  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:25:30pm

re: #180 teleskiguy

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I KNEW you were gonna do that. ^5

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Jason Munro  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:26:28pm

/rant on

I rarely post, but fuck this shit. Trump is pissing on everything I love about
America. Things I was brought up to believe are sacrosanct are now shit?
Sheriff Joe? Are you fucking kidding me?

I used to fume at the horseshit George Will op-eds in the Boston Globe when I
was a kid (grew up in Mass), and I was disgusted by W’s time in office, but
this shit is off the charts. I disagreed (vehemently at times) with their words
and actions, but at least there was a fucking attempt at some sort of logical
justification. Now it’s a Gish gallop backed by Whataboutism fueled by Idiots.

It’s like America has become Trump’s abused spouse. Each day normal is
redefined so we can go to sleep at night, pretend it’s OK. It’s not fucking OK.

/rant off

Thanks LGF for providing some sanity, and for the sounding board. Sorry for
the profanity, it felt good.

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teleskiguy  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:27:04pm

re: #181 allegro

Giphy

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teleskiguy  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:28:21pm

re: #182 Jason Munro

Sorry for the profanity, it felt good.

Fuck the fucking fuckers.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:29:43pm

re: #168 electrotek

Anyone else openly admit they voted for Hillary when asked and don’t regret it?

I have nothing to be ashamed of voting for her. I’m still with her no matter what.

While I was over at the village hall going over the state assessment of our water system, others asked me about my bro-in-law (safely evacuated for the moment) and his wife (safe in Russia). The conversation turned to the tyre fire that is the administration; I pointed out (as I have done here before) I was one of the eight people here who proudly cast a vote for Mrs. Clinton.

I pointed out we would not be having all these problems, and got a couple mumbled “you’re probably rights.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:31:00pm

re: #184 teleskiguy

Fuck the fucking fuckers.

Tell us how you really feel. /s

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:32:03pm

re: #168 electrotek

Anyone else openly admit they voted for Hillary when asked and don’t regret it?

I have nothing to be ashamed of voting for her. I’m still with her no matter what.

Oh, yes, repeatedly. But I’m in an extra-blue area of blue California, it’s more or less assumed.

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teleskiguy  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:32:06pm

re: #186 Anymouse 🌹

It’s a sentence where the word ‘fuck’ is a noun, verb, and adjective.

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JordanRules  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:33:32pm

re: #182 Jason Munro

Get your rant on anytime!! Well done and welcome!

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allegro  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:34:01pm

re: #182 Jason Munro

/rant on

I rarely post, but fuck this shit. Trump is pissing on everything I love about
America. Things I was brought up to believe are sacrosanct are now shit?
Sheriff Joe? Are you fucking kidding me?

I used to fume at the horseshit George Will op-eds in the Boston Globe when I
was a kid (grew up in Mass), and I was disgusted by W’s time in office, but
this shit is off the charts. I disagreed (vehemently at times) with their words
and actions, but at least there was a fucking attempt at some sort of logical
justification. Now it’s a Gish gallop backed by Whataboutism fueled by Idiots.

It’s like America has become Trump’s abused spouse. Each day normal is
redefined so we can go to sleep at night, pretend it’s OK. It’s not fucking OK.

/rant off

Thanks LGF for providing some sanity, and for the sounding board. Sorry for
the profanity, it felt good.

Bravo. Great rant.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:34:25pm

For historical reasons that don’t matter here, I’m reluctant to donate to the Red Cross, but of course I want to support TX flood victims. Could some of the Houston area lizards suggest appropriate local charities I could donate to (not Joel Osteen, though).

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allegro  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:34:33pm

re: #183 teleskiguy

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Damn you! Made me spit perfectly good Merlot.

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JordanRules  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:35:19pm

re: #179 allegro

Surprise Doritos are prolly the best Doritos. Enjoy!!

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teleskiguy  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:35:52pm

re: #192 allegro

Damn you! Made me spit perfectly good Merlot.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:38:41pm

re: #187 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Oh, yes, repeatedly. But I’m in an extra-blue area of blue California, it’s more or less assumed.

Say hi to my sister for me.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:39:34pm

re: #188 teleskiguy

It’s a sentence where the word ‘fuck’ is a noun, verb, and adjective.

You are versatile with your vocabulary.

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JordanRules  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:42:34pm
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fern01  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:47:46pm

re: #45 The Vicious Babushka

NYT sets the lowest of the low bars for trump - they excuse that he can’t spell basic words - never would they have given this leeway to President Obama.

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:48:34pm

Oh, Dinesh…you’ve become so predictable.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:51:33pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:55:22pm

My wife is playing a wingnut YouTube video, telling me I need to put on my tinfoil hat for this (something something NWO created Hurricane Harvey to attack Texas - the video has 155 upvotes and 34 downvotes - where does she dig this stuff up?)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:55:48pm

re: #200 Anymouse 🌹

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I gotta tell you, though, reading through his timeline, I suspect he was being sarcastic. The problem is, Wright is right, the bots are trying to feed this meme into the public consciousness.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:58:35pm

re: #202 Blind Frog Belly White

I gotta tell you, though, reading through his timeline, I suspect he was being sarcastic. The problem is, Wright is right, the bots are trying to feed this meme into the public consciousness.

Well, I guess we’ll find out how many sheeple (to borrow an Alex Jones term) really populate the conservative voting block.

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TedStriker  Aug 28, 2017 • 10:59:25pm

re: #184 teleskiguy

Fuck the fucking fuckers.

Tommy: What would Eisenhower do if the Russians did to the country, what the Righteous Flock had done to us?
Tim: Cut the fuckers’ nuts off.

en.wikipedia.org

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 11:06:07pm

re: #202 Blind Frog Belly White

I gotta tell you, though, reading through his timeline, I suspect he was being sarcastic. The problem is, Wright is right, the bots are trying to feed this meme into the public consciousness.

That guy’s not the only one. Who knew a telegram service that transmits only 140 characters could be the downfall of the Republic?

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 28, 2017 • 11:21:20pm

re: #205 Anymouse 🌹

The nutcases, the paranoiacs, the conspiracy-addled will nonetheless seize on this meme and before you know it, it will be nothing less than Gospel truth that Obama was POTUS during Hurricane Katrina and any evidence to contrary (you know…..actual history) will be dismissed as LIES! DISINFORMATION!!

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 28, 2017 • 11:24:00pm

Here’s a list of neighborhoods in Fort Bend County, TX that will be affected by 59-foot flooding:

Just……..damn.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 11:30:22pm

re: #207 Dr Lizardo

Here’s a list of neighborhoods in Fort Bend County, TX that will be affected by 59-foot flooding:

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Just……..damn.

Juanita Jean (who lives in Fort Bend County) noted she was one of the lucky 1% who still has power and Internet service.

Yeah We’re Texans (Goes to Juanita Jean)

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teleskiguy  Aug 28, 2017 • 11:32:56pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 11:37:08pm

As of two days ago:

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Jay C  Aug 28, 2017 • 11:42:49pm

re: #199 Ace-o-aces

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Oh, Dinesh…you’ve become so predictable.

And derivative as well: I mean, jeez! Like no one has ever wasted ink/film/pixels rehashing over the”kinky sex stuff in ostensibly puritanical Nazi Germany” tropes before?
Dinesh probably rented a DVD of the Liza Minnelli “Cabaret” and had a “AHA!!” Moment….
Hack.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 28, 2017 • 11:44:33pm

re: #211 Jay C

And derivative as well: I mean, jeez! Like no one has ever wasted ink/film/pixels rehashing over the”kinky sex stuff in ostensibly puritanical Nazi Germany” tropes before?
Dinesh probably rented a DVD of the Liza Minnelli “Cabaret” and had a “AHA!!” Moment….
Hack.

I’d think Ilsa: She-Wolf of the SS would be more to D’Felon’s taste.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 28, 2017 • 11:48:36pm

re: #212 Dr Lizardo

I’d think Ilsa: She-Wolf of the SS would be more to D’Felon’s taste.

Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS (goes to Wikipedia)

Okay, you made me look. Trying to decide if I should put this on the “bad movies to watch” list.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 28, 2017 • 11:53:24pm

re: #211 Jay C

He’s also echoing a misdirection/lie cocktail assembled by Scott Lively—author of “The Pink Swastika” and a major force behind Evangelical-supported anti-gay laws in Subsaharan Africa—that somehow the SA and Ernst Röhm made the Nazis 100% gay, when there’s copious primary sources from NSDAP internal discussions that demonstrate how other Nazis leaders despised his sexuality but concealed it because he was effective.

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majii  Aug 28, 2017 • 11:53:41pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

“I’m such a badass. I’m a skeered of anyone who has a different skin tone and accent than me.:

I met a very nice older female from the Dominican Republic last week at the grocery store [Aldi’s.] She was ahead of me in the checkout line and appeared to need assistance loading her groceries onto the conveyor belt. I’m the type of person who gives assistance whenever I notice someone needs it, so I helped her. She thanked me and we began what turned out to be a rather long conversation. She came to the U.S. when she was young and became a cosmetologist. She told me to come to her shop, and she’ll give me a discount. I plan to go visit her at her shop, but I won’t be getting a discount because I already have a great cosmetologist who would be offended if I permitted another cosmetologist to do anything to my hair. LOL.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 28, 2017 • 11:54:45pm

re: #213 Anymouse 🌹

Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS (goes to Wikipedia)

Okay, you made me look. Trying to decide if I should put this on the “bad movies to watch” list.

I’d watch the shit out of this if it were ever really made into a film:

(in spoiler tag because it’s totally NSFW)

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 29, 2017 • 12:08:45am

Well, I need to hit the rack you lucky devils… .

Long drive in the morning.

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majii  Aug 29, 2017 • 12:13:39am

re: #147 electrotek

“Sometimes I ask myself why I couldn’t be politically apathetic like many others. I’d probably be a happier person instead of being so passionate and emotional.”

Wait until you’re older. By then you will have learned to be passionate, emotional, and somewhat calm at the same time because you will have seen most of what you’re seeing at that time before and realize that in order to prevail, patience and remaining calm is a necessary asset. What I love about you, teleskiguy, HW, and our other young Lizards is your passion and engagement in the political process. I’m fairly certain that you guys will carry the fight for justice and equality on after I’m gone. For these things, I want to thank you now while I’m still around. You guys are all kinds of awesome.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 29, 2017 • 12:22:53am

re: #198 fern01

NYT sets the lowest of the low bars for trump - they excuse that he can’t does not make the effort to check how to spell basic words and does not have his Tweets checked or proofed - never would they have given this leeway to President Obama.

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JordanRules  Aug 29, 2017 • 12:45:20am

A thread!

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JordanRules  Aug 29, 2017 • 12:50:14am
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freetoken  Aug 29, 2017 • 12:58:23am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 29, 2017 • 1:02:53am

This is a two-year old article from The New Yorker about a possible future natural disaster - a Cascadia Subduction Zone megathrust quake I’d mentioned a couple of days ago.

Keep your fingers crossed something like this doesn’t happen in anyone’s lifetime……..and certainly not while Trump is POTUS.

OSSPAC estimates that in the I-5 corridor it will take between one and three months after the earthquake to restore electricity, a month to a year to restore drinking water and sewer service, six months to a year to restore major highways, and eighteen months to restore health-care facilities. On the coast, those numbers go up. Whoever chooses or has no choice but to stay there will spend three to six months without electricity, one to three years without drinking water and sewage systems, and three or more years without hospitals. Those estimates do not apply to the tsunami-inundation zone, which will remain all but uninhabitable for years.

How much all this will cost is anyone’s guess; FEMA puts every number on its relief-and-recovery plan except a price. But whatever the ultimate figure—and even though U.S. taxpayers will cover seventy-five to a hundred per cent of the damage, as happens in declared disasters—the economy of the Pacific Northwest will collapse. Crippled by a lack of basic services, businesses will fail or move away. Many residents will flee as well. OSSPAC predicts a mass-displacement event and a long-term population downturn. Chris Goldfinger didn’t want to be there when it happened. But, by many metrics, it will be as bad or worse to be there afterward.

newyorker.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 29, 2017 • 1:06:48am

re: #223 Dr Lizardo

This is a two-year old article from The New Yorker about a possible future natural disaster - a Cascadia Subduction Zone megathrust quake I’d mentioned a couple of days ago.

Keep your fingers crossed something like this doesn’t happen in anyone’s lifetime……..and certainly not while Trump is POTUS.

newyorker.com

Free Market will fix it better than any meddlesome, bureaucratically hamstrung government can.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 29, 2017 • 1:10:17am

re: #224 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I added an excerpt from the article, so refresh my comment to see it.

Yeah, I’m sure there’s all kinds of morons out there who think that the invisible hand of the market will make everything well. A megathrust event like the one described in the article is the invisible hand of Nature flipping those morons the bird.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 29, 2017 • 1:12:57am

re: #225 Dr Lizardo

I added an excerpt from the article, so refresh my comment to see it.

Yeah, I’m sure there’s all kinds of morons out there who think that the invisible hand of the market will make everything well. A megathrust event like the one described in the article is the invisible hand of Nature flipping those morons the bird.

We will also hear people explaining that the people who lived there were aware of the risks and cannot be dependent on a coddling government to bail them out…you know, True Christians, the kind who do not allow their megachurches to be used as shelters for flood victims.

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Timothy Watson  Aug 29, 2017 • 1:46:51am

re: #226 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We will also hear people explaining that the people who lived there were aware of the risks and cannot be dependent on a coddling government to bail them out…you know, True Christians, the kind who do not allow their megachurches to be used as shelters for flood victims.

‘We don’t need gubbermint to help these people. Private charity will do just fine!’

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 29, 2017 • 2:01:57am

re: #227 Timothy Watson

‘We don’t need gubbermint to help these people. Private charity will do just fine!’

The churches will assist the needy!! will be their rallying cry - despite the fact that a CSZ megathrust quake would reduce the PacNW to third-world status in less than one hour (quake + tsunami).

For the survivors, it’s gonna be like living in a Roland Emmerich disaster film, except there’s no John Cusack or Chiwetel Ejiofor or Jeff Goldblum to save the day.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 29, 2017 • 2:27:11am

If I’m reading this right it looks like the Addicks Reservoir is pretty much close to full.

waterdata.usgs.gov

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freetoken  Aug 29, 2017 • 3:34:49am

So KHOU just had a guy on saying he’s seen floating bodies, including babies, in the flood. The reporters says that has yet to be confirmed. The guy seems serious, but who knows.

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steve_davis  Aug 29, 2017 • 3:55:30am

re: #97 FormerDirtDart

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oh boy, that one fellow really needs to learn to get a better embouchure!

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freetoken  Aug 29, 2017 • 4:31:21am

KHOU talking heads talking about FEMA probably not having enough funds, and state that the President and VP are asking Congress for more money.

Somehow it escaped their minds that Trump has already wanted to reduce FEMA funding.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 29, 2017 • 4:39:16am

re: #232 freetoken

KHOU talking heads talking about FEMA probably not having enough funds, and state that the President and VP are asking Congress for more money.

Somehow it escaped their minds that Trump has already wanted to reduce FEMA funding.

No, it was Obama who did that before he went off to play golf during Katrina!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 29, 2017 • 4:42:39am

re: #99 FormerDirtDart

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FFS those are not “countless” mattresses. I am sure that you can count each and every one and not exceed 2 digits.

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Belafon  Aug 29, 2017 • 4:42:47am

re: #168 electrotek

Anyone else openly admit they voted for Hillary when asked and don’t regret it?

I have nothing to be ashamed of voting for her. I’m still with her no matter what.

I have not taken my bumper sticker off of my car.

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freetoken  Aug 29, 2017 • 4:43:57am

It would be easy for me to come across as cruel or unthoughtful, yet when I watch these Texas television stations I really doubt that they are willing to dive into some hard truths.

Such as the issue over Trump and FEMA funding.

Or that their own Representatives and Senators have been against funding other parts of this county during times of disasters.

Or that everything is not fine in Houston in some fundamental ways (infrastructure and the future).

Or that they really need the Federal government to bail out to the tune of billions of dollars and that these bailouts have to come from the taxes that so many Texans apparently loath.

The local TV talking heads are lauding the local pro-sports franchises for publicly donating a couple of millions of dollars. Not to be heard is that these same franchises get huge breaks when their facilities get support or that the owners, many of whom are billionaires, pay the lowest income tax rates since the early 20th century.

And I just feel sad when I see so many Houstonians go on and on about their religiousity, somehow not blaming their same Thunder God who sent the storm but somehow miraculously saved them. I don’t want to beat up on these people but there is so much disconnect in their thinking that I propose they will never really come to grips on how they are manipulated by the scamsters (Osteen only being the most successful one.)

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freetoken  Aug 29, 2017 • 4:48:04am

And there’s something else.

Hinted at on the television streams but not really openly dissected.

And it has to do with how Houston is self-segregated.

I’ve only been through Houston, never stayed there. So someone else will have to chime in with more knowledge.

But it doesn’t take a lot of wild imagination to believe the people living in low-lying flood plains are poorer than those who live on high elevation areas.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2017 • 4:53:05am

re: #168 electrotek

Anyone else openly admit they voted for Hillary when asked and don’t regret it?

I have nothing to be ashamed of voting for her. I’m still with her no matter what.

Since the election, the greatest moral struggle has been to avoid The Great Smug.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 29, 2017 • 5:09:36am
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Chrysicat  Aug 29, 2017 • 5:12:39am

re: #9 Belafon

Put down whatever you’re smoking/drinking.

You want to tell me what makes you so sure EPR isn’t right?

Speaking as a targeted minority, I sure see a lot of Munich, 1934; in Denver, 2017. And I’m kicking myself for not being able to leave unless either this State or that of my birth does for me.

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Targetpractice  Aug 29, 2017 • 5:18:30am

*sigh*

You’re not fooling anyone, Donny. Steve gave up the game in the interview, your hands are tied and Kim knows it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 5:19:55am

re: #241 Targetpractice

*sigh*

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You’re not fooling anyone, Donny. Steve gave up the game in the interview, your hands are tied and Kim knows it.

Gah.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 29, 2017 • 5:20:48am

After some email delays, I have finally gotten some eclipse pics from my friend Harvey (no relation to hurricane). These taken near Tryon NE. He was lucky to get them. The areas was clouded over most of the morning and he shot them through an opening that just happened to appear at the right time.


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Chrysicat  Aug 29, 2017 • 5:21:47am

re: #223 Dr Lizardo

This is a two-year old article from The New Yorker about a possible future natural disaster - a Cascadia Subduction Zone megathrust quake I’d mentioned a couple of days ago.

Keep your fingers crossed something like this doesn’t happen in anyone’s lifetime……..and certainly not while Trump is POTUS.

newyorker.com

I certainly do! I don’t have many living relatives and almost all of them live in Area Code 503!

But I think the ‘reduced to Third World status for an extended period’ part is a bit overmuch–Japan returns to the 21st century quite well every time it’s struck by a quake. Or it would be overmuch were Movement Conservatives not in charge of the country, anyway.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 5:22:18am

re: #243 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

After some email delays, I have finally gotten some eclipse pics from my friend Harvey (no relation to hurricane). These taken near Tryon NE. He was lucky to get them. The areas was clouded over most of the morning and he shot them through an opening that just happened to appear at the right time.

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Whoa, those are beautiful photographs.

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Chrysicat  Aug 29, 2017 • 5:27:32am

re: #240 Chrysicat

Which actually led me to look in on Blogspot to see if “Munich1933” and Munich1934” were taken names or not. They aren’t and I’m sorely tempted, but I’m terrible about even having energy on a regular schedule, let alone following one to write!

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jeffreyw  Aug 29, 2017 • 5:28:28am

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Good morning!

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Targetpractice  Aug 29, 2017 • 5:31:53am

Living here in VA, particularly out on the coast that has been smacked around by at least four named hurricanes in my recollection since I moved here, it really is hard for me to feel overly sorry for the Texan wingnuts who now are begging for money and getting irate at the “politicization” of their plight. Just last year we dealt with Matthew and the sentiment from wingnuts at the time was not “We must do everything we can to help them,” but “Why should my tax dollars go to help a bunch of libruls?!”

My sympathy meter for Texans at the moment is sort of low. They wanted to live in a “small government” hellhole, let the “free market” bail them out.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2017 • 5:33:22am

re: #240 Chrysicat

You want to tell me what makes you so sure EPR isn’t right?

Speaking as a targeted minority, I sure see a lot of Munich, 1934; in Denver, 2017. And I’m kicking myself for not being able to leave unless either this State or that of my birth does for me.

It’s not going to get better until 99% of the country starts to realize that it is, in some way, part of a targeted minority.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 29, 2017 • 5:34:30am

re: #245 HappyWarrior

Whoa, those are beautiful photographs.

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unproven innocence  Aug 29, 2017 • 5:44:58am

re: #39 FormerDirtDart

That’s more the case with the civilian modified 4x4s and pickups. Sure fast moving water can be a hazard to any vehicle, but military truck are designed to do water crossings. Remember, it was Army HEMTTs that first reached the Superdome after Katrina, and FMTVs that provided transport later during search and rescue/recovery operation. Most of the people being rescued now by small boats could likely be reached by these vehicles. And, those that need boat rescue still need transport after reaching shallower water

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A suggestion: Fill those tires with water and limit speeds to several MPH. Probably then they would be stable enough in some floodwaters to be useful.

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Chrysicat  Aug 29, 2017 • 5:46:28am

re: #249 Decatur Deb

It’s not going to get better until 99% of the country starts to realize that it is in some way part of a targeted minority.

Yeah. It’s kind of ridiculous that people can’t recall “First they came…” when there’s barely an adult whose parent’s lifetime, at least, it was only written within.

As I’ve been saying for the last year-plus, not only are we going to prove “Never Again” was a lie as a promise; we’re actually going to do so while there are people living to whom we made that promise while they were adults.

And to think there was a time when one would have been derided as overly cynical to think that societal memory would allow that sort of thing again a generation or two after the last survivors of the original had been buried!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 29, 2017 • 5:46:49am

re: #223 Dr Lizardo

That’s bad enough but a repeat event at the New Madrid fault would be the mother of all disasters!

en.wikipedia.org

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Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2017 • 5:46:56am

re: #251 unproven innocence

A suggestion: Fill those tires with water and limit speeds to several MPH. Probably then they would be stable enough in some floodwaters to be useful.

The manuals for Army vehicles have published fording depths. Commanders can ignore them in critical situations, but they better be right when they do.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2017 • 5:49:56am

re: #252 Chrysicat

Yeah. It’s kind of ridiculous that people can’t recall “First they came…” when there’s barely an adult whose parent’s lifetime, at least, it was only written within.

As I’ve been saying for the last year-plus, not only are we going to prove “Never Again” was a lie as a promise; we’re actually going to do so while there are people living to whom we made that promise while they were adults.

And to think there was a time when one would have been derided as overly cynical to think that societal memory would allow that sort of thing again a generation or two after the last survivors of the original had been buried!

It was never a promise for the survivors. It’s a threat for the next generation of butchers.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Aug 29, 2017 • 5:51:35am

Oh boy. Trump is coming to Corpus today.

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Chrysicat  Aug 29, 2017 • 5:53:10am

re: #253 Joe Bacon 🌹

Oh, no, I think that the Doc’s right about which one would be worse; New Madrid would flatten unreinforced masonry in Memphis, St. Louis, possibly Chicago, KC, and as far down the river as Baton Rouge; but there wouldn’t be the soil-liquefaction issue that Seattle and, to a lesser extent, Astoria, in particular would be facing with a Cascadia quake.

As I understand it, there’s the potential that otherwise-code-compliant buildings could sink all the way to bedrock, and that that’s far enough down you might wind up with some skyscrapers seeing most of their structure buried. And, of course, there’s no tsunami risk from an earthquake about as far from *every* body of saltwater as it’s possible to be in the Western Hemisphere.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 29, 2017 • 5:58:00am

re: #168 electrotek

Anyone else openly admit they voted for Hillary when asked and don’t regret it?

I have nothing to be ashamed of voting for her. I’m still with her no matter what.

You should see the faces when I tell people Obama was the best president of my lifetime.
Most of course, reflexively shake their heads as if I said I discovered unicorns but man, you can hear a pin drop.

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Chrysicat  Aug 29, 2017 • 5:58:01am

re: #255 Decatur Deb

It was never a promise to the survivors. It’s a threat to the next generation of butchers.

That, seeing as I’m one of the pieces of meat they want to carve up, is one of the most depressing interpretations of that I’ve ever heard.

But that’s not to say I don’t now see that there’s a very good chance that’s indeed all they meant by it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:00:15am

re: #258 Amory Blaine

You should see the faces when I tell people Obama was the best president of my lifetime.
Most of course, reflexively shake their heads as if I said I discovered unicorns but man, you can hear a pin drop.

Best of mine too. Was discussing Obama with my Dad and my point was that Obama by far is our most inclusive president. Too bad he was replaced by one of our most xenophobic presidents.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:02:34am

re: #259 Chrysicat

That, seeing as I’m one of the pieces of meat they want to carve up, is one of the most depressing interpretations of that I’ve ever heard.

But that’s not to say I don’t now see that there’s a very good chance that’s indeed all they meant by it.

I must not have been clear. Letting the bastards know they cannot safely start down that path again is the best way to stop it.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:04:05am

re: #241 Targetpractice

*sigh*

You’re not fooling anyone, Donny. Steve gave up the game in the interview, your hands are tied and Kim knows it.

I got a unanimous, UNANIMOUS, vote in the UN against N.Korea! Unanimous! NKorea also backing down because I said Lock and Loaded! Very afraid! Much different from Obama! Other/

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Amory Blaine  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:04:36am

re: #220 JordanRules

Father Groppi is a hero in this house!

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Citizen K  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:07:15am

I fucking hate this country’s deification of the stupid.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:08:11am

re: #264 Citizen K

I fucking hate this country’s deification of the stupid.

“Instead, my own views and what I hear from my friends and donors should dictate policy.”

/

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Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:08:29am

re: #263 Amory Blaine

Father Groppi is a hero in this house!

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Should be on the cover of Newsweek.

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William Lewis  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:09:34am

re: #261 Decatur Deb

I must not have been clear. Letting the bastards know they cannot safely start down that path again is the best way to stop it.

This. Make them feel they need to wear their brown pants today…

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Dave In Austin  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:09:56am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:10:27am

re: #264 Citizen K

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I fucking hate this country’s deification of the stupid.

But corporate interests should, got it Scott.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:11:50am

re: #266 Decatur Deb

Unfortunately Milwaukee is still hyper-segregated.

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Citizen K  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:12:52am

I will never get over the hypocrisy of mega-Christians.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:13:00am

re: #267 William Lewis

This. Make them feel they need to wear their brown pants today…

And then we slam into a tactical contradiction with Antifa. They screw up every lawful demo they touch. But.

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William Lewis  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:17:17am

re: #263 Amory Blaine

Northerners racism is just as real as southerners. Up north, you could work with - even be supervised by a black man - just don’t let him live in the same neighborhood while down south they could live next to each other but the black man’s work better be subservient to the least job a white man had.

And up north you had segregation by ethnic groups as well. Germans live here. Irish there. Polish over there. And so forth. Sometimes (I remember one German/Polish boundary like this) there would be different neighborhoods on different sides of a street and no one would go to anything - bar, church, grocery - on the the other groups side.

It’s no wonder that Milwaukee was considered the most segregated city in America. Probably still is with the work the Sheriff is putting in to keep it that way.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:18:01am

re: #271 Citizen K

I will never get over the hypocrisy of mega-Christians.

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“The Gates of Heaven”? Heyzeus Crisco….

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William Lewis  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:18:43am

re: #272 Decatur Deb

And then we slam into a tactical contradiction with Antifa. They screw up every lawful demo they touch. But.

As I’ve told my priest, my greatest failure as a Christian is that I am not a pacifist. I’m glad the Antifa are on our side and would rather find a way to aim them better.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:19:17am

re: #271 Citizen K

I will never get over the hypocrisy of mega-Christians.

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Hey you’re the ones who constantly say churches provide better charity than the government and there are plenty of believers criticizing Osteen too. Osteen is nothing but a fraud making millions from religion.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:20:37am

re: #275 William Lewis

As I’ve told my priest, my greatest failure as a Christian is that I am not a pacifist. I’m glad the Antifa are on our side and would rather find a way to aim them better.

I pretty much despise them, but can’t guarantee that their sense of history is worse than mine.

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William Lewis  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:22:36am

Bleah. I’ve got the creeping crud with a massive headache and hacking cough even with pretty good OTC cough meds on board. Going to try to sleep and be glad I have only 4 nights left. Later folks.

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lawhawk  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:24:43am

re: #135 gocart mozart

Good for Budweiser; they’ve done this during other natural disasters and it’s a absolute necessity.

Your joke reminds me of another.

Four beer execs are at a bar and the waitress comes around asking for drinks.
The Bud exec asks for a Bud. The Miller exec asks for a Miller. The Coors exec asks for a coors.

The Guinness exec asks for a Coke.

All the others turn to him and ask him why.

The Guinness exec responds - “If you’re not drinking beer, neither am I”.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:24:48am

re: #273 William Lewis

Northerners racism is just as real as southerners. Up north, you could work with - even be supervised by a black man - just don’t let him live in the same neighborhood while down south they could live next to each other but the black man’s work better be subservient to the least job a white man had.

And up north you had segregation by ethnic groups as well. Germans live here. Irish there. Polish over there. And so forth. Sometimes (I remember one German/Polish boundary like this) there would be different neighborhoods on different sides of a street and no one would go to anything - bar, church, grocery - on the the other groups side.

It’s no wonder that Milwaukee was considered the most segregated city in America. Probably still is with the work the Sheriff is putting in to keep it that way.

It all makes me glad to grow up where I did. Our cul-de-sac alone had a few nominally white Christian families like ours, an Indian-American family, a Jewish-American one, and a Venezuelan-American couple.I really think being exposed to diversity from an early age helped shape my worldview. I won’t give the old “I’m colorblind” canard but people of different backgrounds really have always just been neighbors, friends, or classmates to me.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:30:42am

re: #271 Citizen K

I will never get over the hypocrisy of mega-Christians.

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And Osteen’s “church” is a freaking ex-arena that the Houston Rockets used to play in and a place I saw numerous sold-out concerts in. It held 16,000 people!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:32:19am

re: #273 William Lewis

Northerners racism is just as real as southerners. Up north, you could work with - even be supervised by a black man - just don’t let him live in the same neighborhood while down south they could live next to each other but the black man’s work better be subservient to the least job a white man had.

I grew up in Gary, Indiana. In a neighborhood that went from all white to almost entirely black/Latina in the course of a few years. My mom, a widow, could not afford to join the white flight to the suburbs, so I grew up a minority, one of only about a dozen white kids in a school of 600+ students.

Which is why I have absolutely no patience for racists and white supremacists, or “racial realists” or whatever they call themselves.

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Belafon  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:34:08am

re: #272 Decatur Deb

And then we slam into a tactical contradiction with Antifa. They screw up every lawful demo they touch. But.

The difference is the rest of the left isn’t accepting their tactics.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:34:45am

OMG what an utter dumbass

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:35:08am

re: #281 Ace Rothstein

And Osteen’s “church” is a freaking ex-arena that the Houston Rockets used to play in and a place I saw numerous sold-out concerts in. It held 16,000 people!

I was going to say that the church literally is more like a mall than it is church. Didn’t know it was a former arena. I am amused by this whole thing that his defenders are saying “CHurches shouldn’t be sanctuaries, they’re places of worship.” Funny because during older times, they were used as exactly that. Osteen’s nothing but a scumbag who uses the Christian religion to enrich himself. I’m no longer religious but as I said last night, I’m definitely still influenced by my family’s Catholicism and Osteen disgusts me because I know how modestly my dad’s uncle (a RCC priest) lived and that no doubt when disasters hit where his parish was in Louisiana, he had a welcoming attitude even if the church was a fraction of the size. And I’m sorry but I hate megachurches. I think they’re against everything Christianity should be about.

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Targetpractice  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:35:59am

re: #271 Citizen K

I will never get over the hypocrisy of mega-Christians.

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It’s the “non-believers” part that gets me, the people who will talk our ears off about the “evils” of Islam towards “infidels” absolutely aghast that a church should open its doors to those not already part of the flock.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:36:06am

re: #284 The Vicious Babushka

OMG what an utter dumbass

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I think Jeremy there just likes the part of Christianity that shuns the gays and sluts and not the part about you know helping your fellow man.

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Belafon  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:36:17am

The problem with Antifa is they seem to be asking for violence up front. I’m not anti-violence, but by the time I get around to it, things are going to shit. You know, the way cops are supposed to act.

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lawhawk  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:36:34am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Trump’s jetting off to interfere in the disaster response even as the rains are still falling on flood swollen Houston and SE Texas. Authorities are overburdened and overtaxed with need to rescue people from their homes and to set up shelter that may be required for months, and Trump thinks he’s got to show up now?

That diverts resources better spent on aid to victims, but Trump thinks that this is all about him. He knows the media well enough to know that he could get a pivot from the media away from the ongoing Russia scandal and his failing admin, and the media comes through:

Lest you think that the GOP might focus on disaster relief and make sure that funding is promptly addressed, you’d be wrong.

The GOP is craven enough to consider the need for tax cuts and offsets rather than funding disaster recovery and prevention. They don’t care about anything else. So, while Trump’s busy breaking the government, the GOP is making sure that people can’t get the aid they need in a timely fashion.

The IRS has already indicated their disaster aid relief (which allows taxpayers additional time and relief from penalties due to the storm). Some FEMA funds are available, but that’ll be tapped out soon enough. The GOP still has to craft the budget that goes into effect October 1, and they have a debt ceiling discussion that still needs to be done. The GOP’s fixated on tax cuts and gutting health coverage and can’t be bothered with the business of doing their goddamned jobs. Then they’ll rush through a plan that doesn’t meet CBO scoring or screws all but the rich by shifting the burdens to those least able to afford them.

That means that the GOP is actively moving to fuck over many of those Texans who just got flooded out from Harvey.

Cruz is busy demanding that aid come quickly, which is hypocritical considering he was among those loudly calling to hold up funds for Sandy relief. The entire GOP delegation from Texas voted against Sandy funding. We don’t forget. Those craven fuckers didn’t think that they’d suffer from natural disasters? They get hurricanes and flooding far more regularly than we do in the NYC metro area. Since 1953, Texas has had 254 disaster declarations. NY had 93. NJ had 53.

But when you hit the largest city in the country with a massive storm with major flooding, it’s going to cost. Now, Houston, the 6th largest city in the nation is getting flooded out. I remember when Cruz and other GOPers from Texas were bitching about the cost to repair the NYC subways. Yup, that’s expensive. The NYC subways move more people per day than live in Houston.

I’m not going to deny aid to Texas; they need it.

Texas needs better and more empathetic leaders. The GOP lacks all empathy. All they care about is their own self interest and pursuit of power. Once they have it, they show they’re incapable of wielding it for the greater good.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:36:35am

re: #283 Belafon

The difference is the rest of the left isn’t accepting their tactics.

Will there be a moment when we should have? When we know, it will be too late.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:36:35am

re: #286 Targetpractice

It’s the “non-believers” part that gets me, the people who will talk our ears off about the “evils” of Islam towards “infidels” absolutely aghast that a church should open its doors to those not already part of the flock.

Excellent point.

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Targetpractice  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:37:07am

re: #284 The Vicious Babushka

OMG what an utter dumbass

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The story of Noah, i.e. that Old Testament tale of a genocidal deity who decided that the only way to deal with his creation was to wipe out all but one family?

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:39:27am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:39:28am

re: #289 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Trump’s jetting off to interfere in the disaster response even as the rains are still falling on flood swollen Houston and SE Texas. Authorities are overburdened and overtaxed with need to rescue people from their homes and to set up shelter that may be required for months, and Trump thinks he’s got to show up now?

That diverts resources better spent on aid to victims, but Trump thinks that this is all about him. He knows the media well enough to know that he could get a pivot from the media away from the ongoing Russia scandal and his failing admin, and the media comes through:

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The GOP is craven enough to consider the need for tax cuts and offsets rather than funding disaster recovery and prevention. They don’t care about anything else. So, while Trump’s busy breaking the government, the GOP is making sure that people can’t get the aid they need in a timely fashion.

The IRS has already indicated their disaster aid relief (which allows taxpayers additional time and relief from penalties due to the storm). Some FEMA funds are available, but that’ll be tapped out soon enough. The GOP still has to craft the budget that goes into effect October 1, and they have a debt ceiling discussion that still needs to be done. The GOP’s fixated on tax cuts and gutting health coverage and can’t be bothered with the business of doing their goddamned jobs. Then they’ll rush through a plan that doesn’t meet CBO scoring or screws all but the rich by shifting the burdens to those least able to afford them.

That means that the GOP is actively moving to fuck over many of those Texans who just got flooded out from Harvey.

Cruz is busy demanding that aid come quickly, which is hypocritical considering he was among those loudly calling to hold up funds for Sandy relief. The entire GOP delegation from Texas voted against Sandy funding. We don’t forget. Those craven fuckers didn’t think that they’d suffer from natural disasters? They get hurricanes and flooding far more regularly than we do in the NYC metro area. Since 1953, Texas has had 254 disaster declarations. NY had 93. NJ had 53.

But when you hit the largest city in the country with a massive storm with major flooding, it’s going to cost. Now, Houston, the 6th largest city in the nation is getting flooded out. I remember when Cruz and other GOPers from Texas were bitching about the cost to repair the NYC subways. Yup, that’s expensive. The NYC subways move more people per day than live in Houston.

I’m not going to deny aid to Texas; they need it.

Texas needs better and more empathetic leaders. The GOP lacks all empathy. All they care about is their own self interest and pursuit of power. Once they have it, they show they’re incapable of wielding it for the greater good.

What you’re seeing from the Texas delegation is conservatism in a nutshell- Fuck you, I got mine and but when I need mine, please help. I like you have no problem helping Texas out. But at the same time, next time a disaster hits New York or California, I want Cruz and Cornyn to be on the frontline demanding that they get help rather than making excuses as they did when Sandy hit about how we can’t help them. If you honestly don’t believe in federal disaster relief, fine, that’s a fucked up thing to believe IMO but don’t be a fucking two faced coward like Cruz, Cornyn, and the rest of the Texas GOP delegation.

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Belafon  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:39:37am

re: #290 Decatur Deb

Will there be a moment when we should have? When we know, it will be too late.

The people in Boston did a really good job the other day of dealing with the white supremacists.

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lawhawk  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:40:44am
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:41:18am
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Targetpractice  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:41:55am

re: #297 The Vicious Babushka

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Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:43:20am

re: #295 Belafon

The people in Boston did a really good job the other day of dealing with the white supremacists.

In Normal America, the police and justice system are the proper response to street violence. This is Jefferson Beauregard Sessions’ America for the moment.

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lawhawk  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:43:52am

re: #298 Targetpractice

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:43:59am

re: #296 lawhawk

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Why not just be fucking happy that people are helping out others? Nah Matt had to get a stupid dig in at “liberal academia.” Good grief, I’m tired of conservatives fixation over gender norms that were created generations ago. You’re right LH. The women and her child don’t care about the gender of the person that saved them.

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Weaselone  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:44:25am

re: #272 Decatur Deb

And then we slam into a tactical contradiction with Antifa. They screw up every lawful demo they touch. But.

1. The Antifa isn’t an organized single group, it’s an umbrella being used by/attached to multiple groups all with wide distribution as to if, when and how they use violence.
2. In Berkeley and other places on the West Coast, Antifa is basically just what the Anarchists who previously screwed up every peaceful protest are now calling themselves.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:46:11am

Y’all read David Brooks’ column today? This fucking guy.

In that time, I never heard blatantly racist comments at dinner parties, and there were probably fewer than a dozen times I heard some veiled comment that could have suggested racism. To be honest, I heard more racial condescension in progressive circles than in conservative ones.

But the GOP became a haven to bigots in 2005!!!!

But the Republican Party has changed since 2005. It has become the vehicle for white identity politics. In 2005 only six percent of Republicans felt that whites faced “a great deal” of discrimination, the same number of Democrats who felt this. By 2016, the percentage of Republicans who felt this had tripled.

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Jay C  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:46:18am

re: #297 The Vicious Babushka

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So which question is Mr. Lundmark answering “yes” to? The “floating zoo” part, or the “idiotic” one?

I know which one I think is correct…

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Skip Intro  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:47:09am

re: #293 The Vicious Babushka

What he’s saying is the new Christianity doesn’t believe anything Jesus said. The old, vengeful God is much more to their liking.

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lawhawk  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:49:07am

re: #305 Skip Intro

What he’s saying is the new Christianity doesn’t believe anything Jesus said. The old, vengeful God is much more to their liking.

Scamvengelicals.

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Targetpractice  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:49:36am

re: #289 lawhawk

The Gray Lady calls for Trump to be a uniter, which means the man will arrive in Texas today to make a lot of snide remarks about Obama and thus further the divide. It’s the same story over and over again: Trump given opportunity to become “presidential,” media talk up how this could be the moment, then he opens his gob and they end up pulping days worth of stories to be replaced with “Trump digs himself a deeper hole.”

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Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:49:42am

re: #302 Weaselone

1. The Antifa isn’t an organized single group, it’s an umbrella being used by/attached to multiple groups all with wide distribution as to if, when and how they use violence.
2. In Berkeley and other places on the West Coast, Antifa is basically just what the Anarchists who previously screwed up every peaceful protest are now calling themselves.

Been face-to-face with them in Lafayette Park, and track their websites. Those that aren’t undercover cops are mostly idiots. I just don’t want my kids to someday realize they were right.

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Belafon  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:49:58am

re: #299 Decatur Deb

In Normal America, the police and justice system are the proper response to street violence. This is Jefferson Beauregard Sessions’ America for the moment.

Yep, this is the America of the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, 1950s, 1960s, and probably later, which is Sessions’ America. And yet, people are protesting in places they weren’t at those times. Right now, America both sucks and is showing more hope than it has in a while, which seems to me is the definition of this country.

But Antifa isn’t trying for anything in particular. They’re anarchists. They’re just using this as an excuse to be violent.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:50:35am

re: #297 The Vicious Babushka

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I’m telling you, these shitheads don’t really believe what they are saying. Their real agenda has nothing to do with God, gay marriage, bathroom use, or even racism. Those are just tools with which they advance their real agenda, more wealth for the already wealth and, ultimately, the preservation of hereditary privilege. The latter objective has defined conservative elements in western society throughout modern times. It is the link between our batshit redneck conservatives and Europe’s pseudo-aristocratic ones.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:51:42am

re: #271 Citizen K

I will never get over the hypocrisy of mega-Christians.

So Hurricane Harvey is a punishment from g—d like Noah’s flood? SMH

I’m reluctant to leap to judgment regarding Osteen at this time for not opening the church, maybe they don’t feel prepared, and there are insurance issues, etc etc. I don’t know.

But at the very least a church, especially of that size, should be prepared for such a catastrophe, especially given the storms that area of the country is subject to. And as a regular churchgoer I can tell you that the church’s mission is not just worship but to be a sanctuary in time of need.

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Citizen K  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:51:51am

re: #302 Weaselone

1. The Antifa isn’t an organized single group, it’s an umbrella being used by/attached to multiple groups all with wide distribution as to if, when and how they use violence.
2. In Berkeley and other places on the West Coast, Antifa is basically just what the Anarchists who previously screwed up every peaceful protest are now calling themselves.

Pretty much. Antifa is no ‘organization’ whatsoever. Those who are ‘organized’ Antifa sadly tend to be Black Bloc morons using it as an excuse to get their anarchy on, and fucking it up for the rest of us as they’re want to do. Antifa as a movement will need to reckon with these fuckwits eventually. But even at that worst, trying to compare ‘Antifa’ as a whole to Neo-Nazis, white supremacists, KKK, etc. is some of the worst false equivalence, just by sheer fucking scale. Antifa has a lot of violent fucks casting their name under the umbrella, but I’ve yet to see the movement call for the mass purge and dehumanization of entire peoples like Nazis and White Supremacists want as an explicit mission statement.

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Targetpractice  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:52:36am

re: #305 Skip Intro

What he’s saying is the new Christianity doesn’t believe anything Jesus said. The old, vengeful God is much more to their liking.

They’ve been pining for that Ol’ Time Religion for decades now. The people who will quote Leviticus while insisting that Jesus loves you.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:53:33am
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:54:26am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:55:59am

re: #302 Weaselone

1. The Antifa isn’t an organized single group, it’s an umbrella being used by/attached to multiple groups all with wide distribution as to if, when and how they use violence.
2. In Berkeley and other places on the West Coast, Antifa is basically just what the Anarchists who previously screwed up every peaceful protest are now calling themselves.

This sounds about right. Not all anti-confederate protesters are “antifa”, some are looking for violence and anarchy, most I suspect are not. But there’s a core, perhaps small, who are, ironically, anti-globalist, anti-corporate, who probably have a lot in common with the anti-global, anti-elite wingnuts Trump has inspired.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:58:13am
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lawhawk  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:58:14am

re: #314 Dave In Austin

Meanwhile, Melania’s heading into a flood zone and her attire is inappropriate - you don’t wear heels, let alone stilettos, into a flood zone.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:59:17am

re: #317 The Vicious Babushka

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Fuck off Erick, please.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:59:53am

re: #318 lawhawk

Meanwhile, Melania’s heading into a flood zone and her attire is inappropriate - you don’t wear heels, let alone stilettos, into a flood zone.

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They’re there to look good for the cameras.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:01:41am

re: #320 HappyWarrior

They’re there to look good for the cameras.

Disaster tourism fail.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:02:02am

re: #311 Sir John Barron

So Hurricane Harvey is a punishment from g—d like Noah’s flood? SMH

I’m reluctant to leap to judgment regarding Osteen at this time for not opening the church, maybe they don’t feel prepared, and there are insurance issues, etc etc. I don’t know.

But at the very least a church, especially of that size, should be prepared for such a catastrophe, especially given the storms that area of the country is subject to. And as a regular churchgoer I can tell you that the church’s mission is not just worship but to be a sanctuary in time of need.

I do find it surprising, however, that the church is not opening its doors for anyone fleeing the floods, refugees as it were. I understand if they can’t admit thousands of people or as many as we might expect given the church’s stadium size. But a church of this size would be ideally situated to serve the community in a great time of need. And again, given my own church experience, the church usually tries to do what it can and in its mission statements, purposes to do so. But not all churches are the same, to say the least.

And it’s not just a liberal vs. conservative thing. In contrast, for example, I would bet that the Saddlebrook church in California (a conservative congregation) is much more community-focused and mission minded for such a local catastrophe, than Osteen’s Houston church appears to be.

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makeitstop  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:02:21am

re: #318 lawhawk

Meanwhile, Melania’s heading into a flood zone and her attire is inappropriate - you don’t wear heels, let alone stilettos, into a flood zone.

Geez, I hope like hell they don’t get dirty! That would be tragic!
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:02:30am

re: #318 lawhawk

Meanwhile, Melania’s heading into a flood zone and her attire is inappropriate - you don’t wear heels, let alone stilettos, into a flood zone.

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I suppose part of her pre-nup requires that she wear stilettos at all times.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:03:11am

re: #324 The Vicious Babushka

I suppose part of her pre-nup requires that she wear stilettos at all times.

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She’s got her own problems but in a way I do feel bad for Melania.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:03:19am
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sagehen  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:03:42am

re: #273 William Lewis

Northerners racism is just as real as southerners. Up north, you could work with - even be supervised by a black man - just don’t let him live in the same neighborhood while down south they could live next to each other but the black man’s work better be subservient to the least job a white man had.

Somebody once explained to me about racism…

“In the north, whites don’t mind how high blacks get as long as they don’t get too close. In the south, whites don’t mind how close blacks get as long as they don’t get too high.”

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BlueGrl21  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:03:58am

Update

I woke up this morning to see a wet piece of the sun peering out. Still raining, but drizzly.

My husband and I are checking on shelters now to see what we can do. Everyone I’ve talked to this morning is doing the same.

We’re in Phase 2 of helping each other now.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:04:55am

re: #326 Dave In Austin

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Erick’s a lot more like Hannity than he is not. He just doesn’t like Trump because he thinks Trump “sullies” conservatism’s “good name” when conservatives have been doing that on their own long before Trump including Erick himself.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:05:36am

re: #327 sagehen

Somebody once explained to me about racism…

“In the north, whites don’t mind how high blacks get as long as they don’t get too close. In the south, whites don’t mind how close blacks get as long as they don’t get too high.”

That’s actually an excellent illustration of it.

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Targetpractice  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:06:39am

re: #320 HappyWarrior

They’re there to look good for the cameras.

That’s all it is, showing up to “survey the damage” but making sure to look good doing so. This is the sort of tone-deaf shit that thought putting out a picture of Dubya looking out the window of AF1 on his way back from Crawford meant he “cared” about the people of NOLA.

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makeitstop  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:06:59am

re: #326 Dave In Austin

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The bots are putting in work - aided by idiots like Erick.

The hashtag ‘antifa’ is outpacing the hashtag ‘harvey’ over the last 48 hours.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:07:43am

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:11:03am

re: #325 HappyWarrior

She’s got her own problems but in a way I do feel bad for Melania.

Fuck her, she signed up for this.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:11:38am

re: #334 The Vicious Babushka

Fuck her, she signed up for this.

I know, I know, that’s mostly my sentiment too.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:11:42am
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Citizen K  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:12:58am

re: #332 makeitstop

The bots are putting in work - aided by idiots like Erick.

The hashtag ‘antifa’ is outpacing the hashtag ‘harvey’ over the last 48 hours.

Sigh, of course. Thus the media will continue to dance on the head of the right-wing pin forever, because from their view, the country only ever wants right-wing views forever.

Fuck this.

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Belafon  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:13:57am

re: #311 Sir John Barron

So Hurricane Harvey is a punishment from g—d like Noah’s flood? SMH

I’m reluctant to leap to judgment regarding Osteen at this time for not opening the church, maybe they don’t feel prepared, and there are insurance issues, etc etc. I don’t know.

But at the very least a church, especially of that size, should be prepared for such a catastrophe, especially given the storms that area of the country is subject to. And as a regular churchgoer I can tell you that the church’s mission is not just worship but to be a sanctuary in time of need.

Maybe it’s God signaling to all of the people in the area who the real Christians are.

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Targetpractice  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:16:03am

A president* who stated on live TV yesterday that he announced a presidential pardon during a major hurricane to get “higher ratings” now rushes to Texas to stand amidst the ruins and…what? Hand out more Play-doh?

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:17:37am

re: #284 The Vicious Babushka

OMG what an utter dumbass

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Didn’t God make a promise after that event? (They always go Old Testament when enjoined to show compassion).

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ObserverArt  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:18:00am

re: #305 Skip Intro

What he’s saying is the new Christianity doesn’t believe anything Jesus said. The old, vengeful God is much more to their liking.

Imma thinking some of these megachurches are not teaching classic Christianity.

Seems to be more a form of “get your own greed, as I got my own with God’s help.”

Come on back Jesus…some smiting is needed.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:18:51am

re: #341 ObserverArt

Imma thinking some of these megachurches are not teaching classic Christianity.

Seems to be more a form of “get your own greed, as I got my own with God’s help.”

Come on back Jesus…some smiting is needed.

I hate the megachurches. I really do. I think they’re tacky and more about making money than actually spreading Christianity’s message.

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Dragonomics  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:21:47am

re: #326 Dave In Austin

Who speaks for “The Left”? Is there a unified voice? Is there a special election the Left might hold to condemn anti-fascists? Oh well, since there is no such animal as “The left,” then it looks like white supremacists will simply have to be tolerated, but at least we know one thing now, white nationalisists are not part of the Left. They are part of what the Left opposes. Good to know.

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Targetpractice  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:22:01am

The profiteering has begun:

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:23:02am

She’s got the aviator shades and flight jacket, and of course the black stilettos.
You know, appropriate disaster viewing attire
If you think about it, they will keep some of her feet out of the mud
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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:23:26am

re: #344 Targetpractice

The profiteering has begun:

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And that’s why the socialists aren’t all wrong. That’s fucking sick.

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makeitstop  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:23:41am

ICYMI: This Vanity Fair piece about Javanka is pretty brutal.

…outside the White House, a key problem seems to be, as one Washington veteran told me, that Kushner and Ivanka don’t have the necessary self-awareness—don’t understand how to behave when you roll into Washington as the creature of someone else. Most such people take a seat a little off to the side, at least until they get their bearings. “What is off-putting about them is they do not grasp their essential irrelevance,” this veteran told me. “They think they are special.”

Mediocre people, who think they’re geniuses.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:24:16am

re: #343 Dragonomics

Who speaks for “The Left”? Is there a unified voice? Is there a special election the Left might hold to condemn anti-fascists? Oh well, since there is no such animal as “The left,” then it looks like white supremacists will simply have to be tolerated, but at least we know one thing now, white nationalisists are not part of the Left. They are part of what the Left opposes. Good to know.

Yeah, and it sounds like we’re being asked to condemn all anti-confederate, anti-fascist, anti-racist groups and demonstrations.

Condemn unprovoked violence, condemn people who show up for protests armed and in masks? Sure, be happy to. But don’t ask me to blanket-condemn all the anti-confederate protesters in Charlottesville, for example.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:25:04am

re: #347 makeitstop

ICYMI: This Vanity Fair piece about Javanka is pretty brutal.

Mediocre people, who think they’re geniuses.

Basically, Jared and Ivanka are elitist snobs who see themselves as saviors when they’re really a bunch of high pampered brats who have never actually had to work for anything in their lives without Daddy handing it to them.

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Citizen K  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:27:00am

re: #346 HappyWarrior

And that’s why the socialists aren’t all wrong. That’s fucking sick.

Hell, my problem with ‘the socialists’ isn’t the goals at all. I’m essentially a socialist by belief as it is. It’s the frustrating ‘burn it all down’ anarchic bent so many have taken that refuses to believe that upending everything won’t create a magical socialist utopia by necessity.

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ObserverArt  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:28:31am

re: #318 lawhawk

Meanwhile, Melania’s heading into a flood zone and her attire is inappropriate - you don’t wear heels, let alone stilettos, into a flood zone.

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Oh come on. You’ve got to look good so people in these trouble times have someone to look up to.

It’s all about inspiration. You feel good because she dressed her best to come and see you.

Heh.

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makeitstop  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:28:39am

re: #349 HappyWarrior

Basically, Jared and Ivanka are elitist snobs who see themselves as saviors when they’re really a bunch of high pampered brats who have never actually had to work for anything in their lives without Daddy handing it to them.

And now they’re pissy because people who actually do this for a living are not bending the knee.

This gives me a bit of solace - that the Trumps are all in a circumstance where they’re being constantly scrutinized, and they can’t be their usual shady grifting sleves like they used to do.

I hope that they’re all being chewed up by mental anguish over the fact that people see who they really are now and are not even pretending to like them.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:30:44am

re: #351 ObserverArt

Oh come on. You’ve got to look good so people in these trouble times have someone to look up to.

It’s all about inspiration. You feel good because she dressed her best to come and see you.

Heh.

Her attire tells us all what the entire trip is: “Photo Op”
Of course she’s wearing ‘disaster chique’

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:30:45am

re: #322 Sir John Barron

Osteen’s “church” was originally built as The Summit, a sports and music venue. I saw The Who, Springsteen, Elton John, Cat Stevens among others perform there. It still houses an entertainment business, and should be taxed as one.

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makeitstop  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:32:05am

re: #354 jaunte

Osteen’s “church” was originally built as The Summit, a sports and music venue. I saw The Who, Springsteen, Elton John, Cat Stevens among others perform there. It still houses an entertainment business, and should be taxed as one.

The Rockets used to play there, didn’t they?

(Might not be remembering this right.)

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Dave In Austin  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:32:32am

re: #344 Targetpractice

The profiteering has begun:

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This will get ugly by next week. A lot of these guys with boats are happy to rescue as many people as need rescuing. This will turn quickly to people who need to get back to their property for whatever reason. Then they turn from rescuers to water taxi’s. Watch and see.

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Targetpractice  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:32:37am

re: #352 makeitstop

And now they’re pissy because people who actually do this for a living are not bending the knee.

This gives me a bit of solace - that the Trumps are all in a circumstance where they’re being constantly scrutinized, and they can’t be their usual shady grifting sleves like they used to do.

I hope that they’re all being chewed up by mental anguish over the fact that people see who they really are now and are not even pretending to like them.

They’re bred for a totally different culture than the one they’re presently dealing with. They’d be much more at home in a monarchy or dictatorship, where those who failed to heed their “advice” would be cast out or executed for daring to think they knew better than their leaders.

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ObserverArt  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:32:42am

re: #329 HappyWarrior

Erick’s a lot more like Hannity than he is not. He just doesn’t like Trump because he thinks Trump “sullies” conservatism’s “good name” when conservatives have been doing that on their own long before Trump including Erick himself.

Yeah, Eric doesn’t like the fact that Trump blurts out the entire playbook.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:33:38am

re: #350 Citizen K

Hell, my problem with ‘the socialists’ isn’t the goals at all. I’m essentially a socialist by belief as it is. It’s the frustrating ‘burn it all down’ anarchic bent so many have taken that refuses to believe that upending everything won’t create a magical socialist utopia by necessity.

Yep.

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Targetpractice  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:33:55am

re: #356 Dave In Austin

This will get ugly by next week. A lot of these guys with boats are happy to rescue as many people as need rescuing. This will turn quickly to people who need to get back to their property for whatever reason. Then they turn from rescuers to water taxi’s. Watch and see.

Ayep, where the people who have already lost their physical possessions will find their bank accounts picked clean by vultures looking to profit off the misery of others.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:34:03am

re: #355 makeitstop

The Rockets used to play there, didn’t they?

(Might not be remembering this right.)

No, you are. Ace brought it up earlier.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:34:59am

re: #360 Targetpractice

Ayep, where the people who have already lost their physical possessions will find their bank accounts picked clean by vultures looking to profit off the misery of others.

Capitalism……. Capitol C.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:35:05am

re: #352 makeitstop

And now they’re pissy because people who actually do this for a living are not bending the knee.

This gives me a bit of solace - that the Trumps are all in a circumstance where they’re being constantly scrutinized, and they can’t be their usual shady grifting sleves like they used to do.

I hope that they’re all being chewed up by mental anguish over the fact that people see who they really are now and are not even pretending to like them.

It’s going to dissuade Jared and the boys from even considering a political career which is good,. Good riddance to trash families like the Trumps.

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Targetpractice  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:36:32am

re: #363 HappyWarrior

It’s going to dissuade Jared and the boys from even considering a political career which is good,. Good riddance to trash families like the Trumps.

It won’t. It’ll just teach them to start lower down the ladder, someplace where they can exercise way more power without worrying about as much social backlash.

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makeitstop  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:37:20am

re: #357 Targetpractice

They’re bred for a totally different culture than the one they’re presently dealing with. They’d be much more at home in a monarchy or dictatorship, where those who failed to heed their “advice” would be cast out or executed for daring to think they knew better than their leaders.

Anything short of a monarchy and they’re screwed.

As much as Trump was shunned by NY society before he ran for president (and make no mistake, he was - NY Old Money loathes him), it’ll be even worse when he’s out of office. Jared and Ivanka now have that stink on them, too. They’ll never be accepted back into the cocktail party circuit after this.

Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if the whole family abandoned NYC and went where they were more welcome. Moscow, perhaps - if Putin will have them once they’re no longer useful.

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ObserverArt  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:40:18am

re: #347 makeitstop

ICYMI: This Vanity Fair piece about Javanka is pretty brutal.

Mediocre people, who think they’re geniuses.

Read that last evening. The Trump clan is a new kind of strange disfunction.

But if parts of the article are true, I’m thinking with some pressure Mueller can roll them against each other. It sounds like Jared will protect himself at all costs and start tossing Trumps out as needed.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:40:58am

re: #365 makeitstop

Anything short of a monarchy and they’re screwed.

As much as Trump was shunned by NY society before he ran for president (and make no mistake, he was - NY Old Money loathes him), it’ll be even worse when he’s out of office. Jared and Ivanka now have that stink on them, too. They’ll never be accepted back into the cocktail party circuit after this.

He’ll, I wouldn’t be surprised if the whole family abandoned NYC and went where they were more welcome. Moscow, perhaps - if Putin will have them once they’re no longer useful.

Their style would fit in better in Moscow. I honestly in many a way find Jared and Ivanka more loathesome than Donald himself. Javanka pretends to care about reproductive rights, concerned for climate change, LGBT people’s rights etc but is useless on that front. There was even a story that I saw here this morning about Ivanka trying to push Cecille Richards into getting PP to stop performing abortions. I honestly in a way prefer someone like Bannon or Spencer who is much more open about what he wants for the world. Javanka pretend to care but they’re just in it for themselves. Ivanka can go to hell along with her Dad.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:41:34am

re: #360 Targetpractice

Ayep, where the people who have already lost their physical possessions will find their bank accounts picked clean by vultures looking to profit off the misery of others.

And that guy Worstofall who writes for Forbes is wetting his pants because this is the “purest form of capitalism”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:41:41am

re: #366 ObserverArt

Read that last evening. The Trump clan is a new kind of strange disfunction.

But if parts of the article are true, I’m thinking with some pressure Mueller can roll them against each other. It sounds like Jared will protect himself at all costs and start tossing Trumps out as needed.

I’d honestly love to see that. I’d love to see Donald explode at his beloved Ivanka’s husband betraying him to save his own skin.

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nines09  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:41:44am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:42:08am

re: #368 The Vicious Babushka

And that guy Worstofall who writes for Forbes is wetting his pants because this is the “purest form of capitalism”

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These people are the best friends of die hard Marxists and they just don’t know it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:42:54am

Communists contend that Capitalism is an exploitative and evil system, people like Ivanka, Tim Worstall, and others do their best to prove them 100% right.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:43:14am
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FormerDirtDart  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:44:27am

One for every occasion

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:45:03am

re: #374 FormerDirtDart

One for every occasion

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There really is.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:46:15am

re: #370 nines09

Meanwhile, in Cuero, the river has brought my aunt all of the fire ants. Yes, those are all (of the) fire ants.

It’s times like this that prove it’s handy to have a personal flamethrower handy

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nines09  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:47:11am
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wheat-dogg  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:47:22am

re: #311 Sir John Barron

So Hurricane Harvey is a punishment from g—d like Noah’s flood? SMH

I’m reluctant to leap to judgment regarding Osteen at this time for not opening the church, maybe they don’t feel prepared, and there are insurance issues, etc etc. I don’t know.

But at the very least a church, especially of that size, should be prepared for such a catastrophe, especially given the storms that area of the country is subject to. And as a regular churchgoer I can tell you that the church’s mission is not just worship but to be a sanctuary in time of need.

In my experience, megachurches seem less concerned about helping the poor and afflicted and more about spreading the Gospel among the poor and afflicted. It may have to do with the streak of Calvinism in their theology, and the emphasis on faith over works.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:47:30am

That Nazi who fired at protesters Charlottesville could easily have killed 4 or 5 people even with the pipsqueak gun he had. If the other RWNJs had joined in, there would have been a massacre. It was that close.
It is going to happen.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:49:00am

re: #379 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

That Nazi who fired at protesters Charlottesville could easily have killed 4 or 5 people even with the pipsqueak gun he had. If the other RWNJs had joined in, there would have been a massacre. It was that close.
It is going to happen.

That’s the one that only got charged with wrongful use of a weapon right? My brother was telling me something like that. And yeah something like this is going to happen and the right will blame the victims fo rsure.

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Citizen K  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:50:29am

re: #379 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

That Nazi who fired at protesters Charlottesville could easily have killed 4 or 5 people even with the pipsqueak gun he had. If the other RWNJs had joined in, there would have been a massacre. It was that close.
It is going to happen.

He damn well was set to kill at least one person if he didn’t forget about his safety. By the point he turned it off, he knew he couldn’t get away with more than his warning shot(thank god for that). But he was out to kill, make no mistake about that.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:50:57am

I’m seeing it in right wing comments on Facebook and in legislatures but proposals to make make drivers immune from civil charges if they run over protesters. Does the right realize how easily that could be used against them? Not that I think the average lefty would consider running over right wing protesters but all it takes is one deranged asshole. And I don’t hear a damn word from self proclaimed first amendment activists on this. But hey go ahead and tell us how me protesting Milo’s bigoted presence is somehow worse than running over a protester, right wing shits.

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ObserverArt  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:50:59am

re: #369 HappyWarrior

I’d honestly love to see that. I’d love to see Donald explode at his beloved Ivanka’s husband betraying him to save his own skin.

I think Jared picked up a lot of the warm fuzzies from his creep father. Big Don probably saw that as good not realizing Jared could turn on him like the snake in the story Donny told during his campaign.

Every snake for themselves.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:51:01am

re: #368 The Vicious Babushka

And that guy Worstofall who writes for Forbes is wetting his pants because this is the “purest form of capitalism”

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The purest expression of free enterprise in this situation would be to use a hard asset, your shotgun, as leverage to negotiate a fair price (nothing) from the gougers.

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nines09  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:51:39am

re: #376 FormerDirtDart

It’s times like this that prove it’s handy to have a personal flamethrower handy

Horror show if they make landfall anywhere near you or yours.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:52:33am
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nines09  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:53:43am

re: #386 FormerDirtDart

He posts great pictures and video.

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Targetpractice  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:54:31am

re: #369 HappyWarrior

I’d honestly love to see that. I’d love to see Donald explode at his beloved Ivanka’s husband betraying him to save his own skin.

That’s the reality of the situation for Jared, he’s so buried so far down in the shit that he can’t get out clean. He’s going to either have to cut a deal to avoid jail time or he’s going to end up in the Gray Bar Hotel with no guarantee of a future pardon.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:54:41am

Look at these dipshits making use of the Harvey flooding for their own purposes to bash the “mainstream media.”

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:56:02am

re: #388 Targetpractice

That’s the reality of the situation for Jared, he’s so buried so far down in the shit that he can’t get out clean. He’s going to either have to cut a deal to avoid jail time or he’s going to end up in the Gray Bar Hotel with no guarantee of a future pardon.

Bar A Lago?

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wheat-dogg  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:56:31am

re: #373 FormerDirtDart

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By the time people read it, it’s already too late.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:57:04am

re: #370 nines09

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Holy shit. Flame thrower please.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:57:06am

re: #389 jaunte

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Look at these dipshits making use of the Harvey flooding for their own purposes to bash the “mainstream media.”

Seems to me that he needs to take a look in the mirror because that’s FNC to a tee. CNN and MSNBC aren’t perfect but I’ve never seen their commentators mock children as “snowflakes” or make racially insensitive jokes. So yeah you’re right Harlan, but that’s you and your employer. And yeah it’s pathetic of them to use the bravery of individuals in Houston to shit on their rivals. FNC is nothing more than a Pravda/Der Strummer mesh up at this time.

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Citizen K  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:57:17am

re: #389 jaunte

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Look at these dipshits making use of the Harvey flooding for their own purposes to bash the “mainstream media.”

Meanwhile, reporters on the ground are actually personally assisting in rescue efforts. While this pasty asshole continues to push the idea of the Media as being a literal enemy of the state.

Which is why the Thrushes and the Habermens of the world infuriate me so goddamn much. THey keep courting to the assholes who will continue to treat them like THE enemy no matter how many times you kowtow to them.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 29, 2017 • 7:57:36am

re: #376 FormerDirtDart

It’s times like this that prove it’s handy to have a personal flamethrower handy

When I was in 8th grade we had to read Leiningen vs The Ants in English class. That story scared the fuck out of me.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:00:57am
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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:01:02am

Water level behind the dam is reported to be 108’

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:02:53am

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Jay C  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:03:08am

re: #376 FormerDirtDart

It’s times like this that prove it’s handy to have a personal flamethrower handy

Or a sympathetic screenwriter, as in Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull: fortunately, these ants seem less-well-organized than the ones in the movie….

I also thought that having them out like this would be a good opportunity to try to eradicate these pests (though I’m not sure how)

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makeitstop  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:03:22am

One of the most pathetically funny things I’ve ever read.

Or humorously pathetic, maybe.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:04:26am

“Most recent instantaneous value: 107.47 08-29-2017 09:45 CDT “
waterdata.usgs.gov

178000 acre-feet.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:06:49am

re: #400 makeitstop

One of the most pathetically funny things I’ve ever read.

Or humorously pathetic, maybe.

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I’m no fan of either Reagan or Goldwater. But hahahha not even close. Newt is a stupid person’s idea of what a smart person sounds like. Newt is a blatant opportunist who will try to sound reasonable one minute and then sound like a right wing extremist another to get points.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:07:24am

re: #399 Jay C

Or a sympathetic screenwriter, as in Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull: fortunately, these ants seem less-well-organized than the ones in the movie….

I also thought that having them out like this would be a good opportunity to try to eradicate these pests (though I’m not sure how)

Killing fire ants using flamethrower!

BURNING HOT MOLTEN ALUMINUM FIRE ANT HILL CASTING FIREANT REVENGE VIDEO

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:09:55am

re: #281 Ace Rothstein

And Osteen’s “church” is a freaking ex-arena that the Houston Rockets used to play in and a place I saw numerous sold-out concerts in. It held 16,000 people!

Yeah, I saw The Band open up for Crosby, Stills and Nash there quite a few years ago (before my oldest was born, and he is 32 now). Great concert.

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sagehen  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:10:52am

re: #394 Citizen K

Which is why the Thrushes and the Habermens of the world infuriate me so goddamn much. THey keep courting to the assholes who will continue to treat them like THE enemy no matter how many times you kowtow to them.

Speaking of… that’s exactly who’s the featured guest on the Daily Show tonight.

What’s the over/under on Trevor Noah giving them the excorciating they deserve?

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calochortus  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:15:11am

Just a drive-by, but I’m not going to dump on Trump for visiting Texas. He’d be raked over the coals for indifference if he didn’t go and is getting grief for going. As long as he’s far enough away not to be a huge problem, he’ll show up for an hour and leave. No major harm done.

Melania may or may not leave with him, having sunk hip deep in the mud because she’s wearing stilettos (she’s not heavy, but reducing the area that weight is spread over really concentrates the force.) However. She may not be able to wear flats. If you wear heels all the time, your Achilles tendon shortens and your foot can’t easily flatten out to stand on. It used to happen to fashion conscious women back in the ’50s and early ’60s.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:18:51am

re: #406 calochortus

She may not be able to wear flats. If you wear heels all the time, your Achilles tendon shortens and your foot can’t easily flatten out to stand on. It used to happen to fashion conscious women back in the ’50s and early ’60s.

I learn something new every day.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:19:38am
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Stanley Sea  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:20:13am

re: #345 FormerDirtDart

She’s got the aviator shades and flight jacket, and of course the black stilettos.
You know, appropriate disaster viewing attire
If you think about it, they will keep some of her feet out of the mud
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Hurricane Chic

I can’t believe the shoes.

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Belafon  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:21:01am

re: #408 jaunte

Can they go with “Trump floats like _____”?

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makeitstop  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:21:42am

re: #406 calochortus

Melania may or may not leave with him, having sunk hip deep in the mud because she’s wearing stilettos (she’s not heavy, but reducing the area that weight is spread over really concentrates the force.) However. She may not be able to wear flats. If you wear heels all the time, your Achilles tendon shortens and your foot can’t easily flatten out to stand on. It used to happen to fashion conscious women back in the ’50s and early ’60s.

My wife is like that. I have one story about it that I tell over and over…

We vacationed in New Orleans in 2001, and one day we went out to the Garden District. Since we’d been there the year before, I reminded my wife that the sidewalks out there were in pretty bad shape and she might want to wear sneakers. She objected a little, but put sneakers on to placate me.

We hopped the streetcar and rode out to look at the old houses. We got off the streetcar, crossed the street, got on the sidewalk - and my wife turned her ankle.

Since then, her choice of footwear has been something I’ve stayed out of.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:22:24am

re: #409 Stanley Sea

But if she was wearing rubber boots, that would suggest they might be going to get their feet wet, which we know won’t happen.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:23:08am

re: #410 Belafon

Can they go with “Trump floats like a _____”?

…pullulating mass of fire ants?

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BeachDem  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:23:52am

re: #394 Citizen K

Meanwhile, reporters on the ground are actually personally assisting in rescue efforts. While this pasty asshole continues to push the idea of the Media as being a literal enemy of the state.

Which is why the Thrushes and the Habermens of the world infuriate me so goddamn much. THey keep courting to the assholes who will continue to treat them like THE enemy no matter how many times you kowtow to them.

From Glenn’s latest love letter:

In announcing his trips, he used the dulcet, reassuring and uplifting language of prior presidents.

Dulcet, not a term that should ever be used when talking about the yam.

A storm that is ravaging low-lying areas gives Mr. Trump a chance to reclaim the presidential high ground.

Too cute by half, Glenn—and when exactly did he ever presidential high ground to “reclaim?”

But this time is different, people around Mr. Trump insist. The president, who prefers to skim rather than delve, has seldom been more engaged in the details of any issue as he is with Harvey, according to several people involved in disaster response.

Yeah, this time is different. Uh huh. Where is the evidence to support this pipe dream?

Perhaps it was this insightful comment//

“Water damage is the worst,” he told one staff member, “tough, tough, tough.”

Oooh, chills. And of course, that’s the pull cite for Maggie’s supporting tweet.

One other observation—notice that the NYT seldom allows comments on Glenn and Maggie pieces.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:24:12am

re: #410 Belafon

Can they go with “Trump floats like _____”?

I’d love for someone to yell out, “Hey Trump - we all float down here.”

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:25:46am

re: #414 BeachDem

The president, who prefers to skim rather than delve

What fresh bullshit is this? The man has no delving tools or delving inclination.

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Citizen K  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:26:46am

re: #414 BeachDem

From Glenn’s latest love letter:

In announcing his trips, he used the dulcet, reassuring and uplifting language of prior presidents.

Dulcet, not a term that should ever be used when talking about the yam.

A storm that is ravaging low-lying areas gives Mr. Trump a chance to reclaim the presidential high ground.

Too cute by half, Glenn—and when exactly did he ever presidential high ground to “reclaim?”

But this time is different, people around Mr. Trump insist. The president, who prefers to skim rather than delve, has seldom been more engaged in the details of any issue as he is with Harvey, according to several people involved in disaster response.

Yeah, this time is different. Uh huh. Where is the evidence to support this pipe dream?

Perhaps it was this insightful comment//

“Water damage is the worst,” he told one staff member, “tough, tough, tough.”

Oooh, chills. And of course, that’s the pull cite for Maggie’s supporting tweet.

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One other observation—notice that the NYT seldom allows comments on Glenn and Maggie pieces.

I haven’t unfollowed Haberman simply because those two especially deserve to be called out every chance they get for their bullshit double standards and Trump enabling.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:26:50am

re: #414 BeachDem

From Glenn’s latest love letter:

In announcing his trips, he used the dulcet, reassuring and uplifting language of prior presidents.

Dulcet, not a term that should ever be used when talking about the yam.

A storm that is ravaging low-lying areas gives Mr. Trump a chance to reclaim the presidential high ground.

Too cute by half, Glenn—and when exactly did he ever presidential high ground to “reclaim?”

But this time is different, people around Mr. Trump insist. The president, who prefers to skim rather than delve, has seldom been more engaged in the details of any issue as he is with Harvey, according to several people involved in disaster response.

Yeah, this time is different. Uh huh. Where is the evidence to support this pipe dream?

Perhaps it was this insightful comment//

“Water damage is the worst,” he told one staff member, “tough, tough, tough.”

Oooh, chills. And of course, that’s the pull cite for Maggie’s supporting tweet.

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One other observation—notice that the NYT seldom allows comments on Glenn and Maggie pieces.

No. He needs to show leadership by re-instituting the Obama-era guidelines on regulations on building in flood-prone areas that he rolled back by EO in the spring. But as a real estate guy he won’t because his instincts will always be in the “less is more” mode that many builders have when it comes to regulation.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:27:20am
“Water damage is the worst.”

No, you’re the worst.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:27:44am

re: #284 The Vicious Babushka

OMG what an utter dumbass]

I think that he does have a point about the flood. Bronze age sheep herders write story of flooding that “is worldwide and kills everything” that is actually a localized flooding event that in their minds is the end of the world.

I think the Lundmark fellow is about that intelligent.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:28:34am

re: #414 BeachDem

So has Maggie H always been a Trump apologist? Because that piece is a load of bullshit.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:28:54am

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

The Trump effect.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:28:57am

Someone on twitter called her Disaster Barbie

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:30:04am
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FormerDirtDart  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:30:43am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:31:19am

re: #425 FormerDirtDart

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Nor should they.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:31:31am

re: #420 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I think that he does have a point about the flood. Bronze age sheep herders write story of flooding that “is worldwide and kills everything” that is actually a localized flooding event that in their minds is the end of the world.

I think the Lundmark fellow is about that intelligent.

Catastrophic floods are to be found in the myths of all cultures. I’ve often heard, “See, that’s proof!!” to which I usually reply, “Yes….proof that historically, humans have invariably settled near water sources. Which are, of course, prone to flooding and from time to time, extraordinarily destructive flooding.”

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Citizen K  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:31:32am

re: #424 jaunte

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That is how to reassure people as a leader. Offering to defend anyone who gets swept up by Border Patrol trying to evacuate is the kind of gesture needed. It’s almost like treating people like humans is a way to get them to cooperate.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:32:35am

Sporting goods store shows more leadership than president*

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:32:46am

re: #426 HappyWarrior

Nor should they.

Clearly ICE agents need to set up checkpoints at the shelters!////

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Stanley Sea  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:33:23am

re: #423 Stanley Sea

Someone on twitter called her Disaster Barbie

And I’m gonna rag. Sorry C!

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:33:32am
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Citizen K  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:34:01am

re: #430 Big Beautiful Door

Clearly ICE agents need to set up checkpoints at the shelters!////

I mean, I’m pretty sure ICE/Border Patrol has actually intimated just that. Or at least on the roads out. That’s why the Mayor’s statement is so important.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:35:10am

re: #432 FormerDirtDart

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But Hillary was too sensitive and emotional to be president right “Alphas”? For fuck sake, Trump is an insecure child.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:35:17am

re: #432 FormerDirtDart

What is that, a few hundred people at best? I’ve seen more people gathered around when the local dairy here in Ostrava is handing out free samples of cheese.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:36:28am

re: #435 Dr Lizardo

What is that, a few hundred people at best? I’ve seen more people gathered around when the local dairy here in Ostrava is handing out free samples of cheese.

Because the cheese in Ostrava is better than any Trump speech.

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BeachDem  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:36:42am

re: #406 calochortus

Just a drive-by, but I’m not going to dump on Trump for visiting Texas. He’d be raked over the coals for indifference if he didn’t go and is getting grief for going. As long as he’s far enough away not to be a huge problem, he’ll show up for an hour and leave. No major harm done.

Melania may or may not leave with him, having sunk hip deep in the mud because she’s wearing stilettos (she’s not heavy, but reducing the area that weight is spread over really concentrates the force.) However. She may not be able to wear flats. If you wear heels all the time, your Achilles tendon shortens and your foot can’t easily flatten out to stand on. It used to happen to fashion conscious women back in the ’50s and early ’60s.

She’s worn flats in several photos.


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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:36:58am

Trump’s going to go ballistic at the midterms when the R’s lose seats.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:37:04am

Complications

“…The company that owns a flooded chemical plant in Crosby where refrigeration of explosive, heat-sensitive chemicals failed says workers are still on site but have been moved away from the hazard.

The chemicals were moved to diesel-powered refrigeration cars, which the company is still monitoring, Arkema spokeswoman Janet Smith wrote in an email.”

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:39:05am

How many ways can the R’s find to fuck things up?

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:39:28am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:39:52am

re: #440 jaunte

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How many ways can the R’s find to fuck things up?

And Steve Nuremberg King wants them to rat on their parents.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:41:11am

re: #437 BeachDem

She’s worn flats in several photos.

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Let’s rag together GF!

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:41:51am

re: #432 FormerDirtDart

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Jesus:

“You saw the massive crowd we had,” [Trump] said at a White House news conference on Monday with Finland President Sauli Niinisto. “The people went crazy when I said, ‘What do you think of sheriff Joe?’ Or something to that effect.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:43:16am

re: #444 Barefoot Grin

Jesus:

“You saw the massive crowd we had,” [Trump] said at a White House news conference on Monday with Finland President Sauli Niinisto. “The people went crazy when I said, ‘What do you think of sheriff Joe?’ Or something to that effect.”

The people of Manticopa County love Joe so much that tehy voted him out of office.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:43:18am

Another Nazi fuck that needs to be banned from twitter: @PepeMinistry

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Dr. Matt  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:44:53am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:45:14am

Trump will probably show in Texas just long enough to do a photo op and GTFO.

Remembering during his campaign when he spent all of 5 minutes helping to unload supplies from an 18 wheeler?

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:48:22am

re: #448 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump will probably show in Texas just long enough to do a photo op and GTFO.

Remembering during his campaign when he spent all of 5 minutes helping to unload supplies from an 18 wheeler?

He’ll probably be there for a couple of hours and then fly back to D.C.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:48:34am

re: #448 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump will probably show in Texas just long enough to do a photo op and GTFO.

Maybe lunch at a shelter?

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:49:00am

re: #214 The Ghost of a Flea

He’s also echoing a misdirection/lie cocktail assembled by Scott Lively—author of “The Pink Swastika” and a major force behind Evangelical-supported anti-gay laws in Subsaharan Africa—that somehow the SA and Ernst Röhm made the Nazis 100% gay, when there’s copious primary sources from NSDAP internal discussions that demonstrate how other Nazis leaders despised his sexuality but concealed it because he was effective.

What’s more, this line of attacks seems out of place under a Trump administration. I mean, one thing Trump has never been accused of is being too puritanical. If you think about it, DD’s characterization of NAZIs as sexual libertines who only turned on gays for political reasons sound a lot more like Trump than anyone on the left.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:51:30am

re: #451 Ace-o-aces

What’s more, this line of attacks seems out of place under a Trump administration. I mean, one thing Trump has never been accused of is being too puritanical. If you think about it, DD’s characterization of NAZIs as sexual libertines who only turned on gays for political reasons sound a lot more like Trump than anyone on the left.

As usual, Dinesh is projecting. Can’t wait to see his hurried production of how “2020 Dem nominee’s America.” I think Dinesh has a lot of self loathing about him and that’s why he rages at the left the way he does, Hejust seems like an angry little man..

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Stanley Sea  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:52:12am

Oh shit

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:52:22am

No one ever has said the Nazis were sex puritans. They did push their women to be subservient and they did encourage mass reproduction which quite frankly is more likely the American right than left.

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wrenchwench  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:52:27am

re: #441 FormerDirtDart

OK, I give up
Melania Trump Travels to Texas in Snakeskin Stilettos - Vogue

My Slovenian born grandmother said [her] slender ankles were a mark of upperclassness, or something. She was always trying to make up for being married to a Polish renderer, seemingly, I say in far hindsight. She lived to age 99; she passed a few years ago.

/She also said, ‘Those Japanese people seem so nice. And so good at the gardening!’ I wish I was kidding, I’m sorry to quote her in public, may she rest in peace.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:52:35am

re: #453 Stanley Sea

Oh shit

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Awful.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:54:11am

re: #455 wrenchwench

My Slovenian born grandmother said [her] slender ankles were a mark of upperclassness, or something. She was always trying to make up for being married to a Polish renderer, seemingly, I say in far hindsight. She lived to age 99; she passed a few years ago.

/She also said, ‘Those Japanese people seem so nice. And so good at the gardening!’ I wish I was kidding, I’m sorry to quote her in public, may she rest in peace.

My mom’s grandmother was Slovenian too. Don’t know how she was built though since we have no photos of her. She was a complicated woman though. Very strict but she and my great grandfather was devoted to my grandfather’s sister who was mentally disabled.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:54:44am

Arrest looters.

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:56:19am

re: #344 Targetpractice

The profiteering has begun:

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Yeah, I’m just waiting of Stossel or some other ultra-libertarian to run their usual, “government should allow profiteering in disasters because free market” article.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:56:36am
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Targetpractice  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:56:44am

So Trump is going to Texas to do…what? Certainly it isn’t to command the response, because we already know that Mike’s handling that back at the White House. And the man wouldn’t get near a rescue operation unless it was to rescue his money. So what is he doing there but providing his critics an opportunity to say he’s tying up vital resources for a quick photo-op?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:57:13am

re: #458 jaunte

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Arrest looters.

A man who has never gone to school may steal from a freight car; but if he has a university education, he may steal the whole railroad.
Teddy Roosevelt, who Trump’s suck-up Pence compared him to.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:57:39am

re: #459 Ace-o-aces

Yeah, I’m just waiting of Stossel or some other ultra-libertarian to run their usual, “government should allow profiteering in disasters because free market” article.

Stossel is such a smug douche. Even when I was a kid watching Dateline, I thought man that guy’s a prick.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:58:08am

re: #460 jaunte

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Dave’s on it

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 8:59:13am

re: #461 Targetpractice

So Trump is going to Texas to do…what?

He might encourage ICE and CBP to round up more people made homeless by the storm.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:01:13am

re: #464 Stanley Sea

Dave and I worked on the same high school newspaper. He obviously made better use of his experience.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:01:50am

In other news, I read this morning that David Brooks is shocked - Shocked! - to find racism going on in the Party of Reagan (the man who rode to the Presidency on ‘Welfare queens in Cadillacs’ and ‘Young bucks on street corners buying T-bone steaks with foodstamps’).

Imagine that.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:03:05am
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FormerDirtDart  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:03:44am

Well, that was fast.

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wrenchwench  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:03:48am

re: #457 HappyWarrior

My mom’s grandmother was Slovenian too. Don’t know how she was built though since we have no photos of her. She was a complicated woman though. Very strict but she and my great grandfather was devoted to my grandfather’s sister who was mentally disabled.

My gramma had slender ankles and wrists, but everything else was extra-sturdy. She mowed her own lawn until age 95 or so, in a nice part of Joliet, ll, if that’s not too contradictory. Didn’t switch to a power mower until in her 80s.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:03:57am

re: #466 jaunte

Dave and I worked on the same high school newspaper. He obviously made better use of his experience.

That’s cool! You follow your path. I studied with people who have emmy’s. I didn’t stick it out.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:03:58am

re: #467 Blind Frog Belly White

In other news, I read this morning that David Brooks is shocked - Shocked! - to find racism going on in the Party of Reagan (the man who rode to the Presidency on ‘Welfare queens in Cadillacs’ and ‘Young bucks on street corners buying T-bone steaks with foodstamps’).

Imagine that.

But the Democrat Party founded the KKK while the Republicans freed the slaves!!!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:05:12am

re: #467 Blind Frog Belly White

In other news, I read this morning that David Brooks is shocked - Shocked! - to find racism going on in the Party of Reagan (the man who rode to the Presidency on ‘Welfare queens in Cadillacs’ and ‘Young bucks on street corners buying T-bone steaks with foodstamps’).

Imagine that.

One of my friends pointed out that Dave used to be employed by NRO who defended Apartheid during his time tehre. The racism as you say has always been there. It’s just louder with Trump.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:05:39am
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Teukka  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:07:19am

re: #373 FormerDirtDart

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Fuck.
*hopes/prays/thinks positive thoughts*

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:07:37am

re: #470 wrenchwench

My gramma had slender ankles and wrists, but everything else was extra-sturdy. She mowed her own lawn until age 95 or so, in a nice part of Joliet, ll, if that’s not too contradictory. Didn’t switch to a power mower until in her 80s.

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BeachDem  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:07:41am

re: #464 Stanley Sea

Dave’s on it

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The yam is probably looking through his portfolio to see if he has any properties in Texas so he can claim relief funds.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:08:26am

Interesting thread on fire ants (and their lack of genetic diversity in North America):

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Teukka  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:08:29am

This evenings nutritional intake: Falu sausage gratin.
Falu sausage slices interlaced with zucchini slices, covered with aged Herrgård cheese.
Served with boiled potatoes.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:08:49am

re: #469 FormerDirtDart

Well, that was fast.

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Glad nothing bad happened.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:08:59am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:09:13am

re: #479 Teukka

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I’d try that.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:10:28am

re: #481 FormerDirtDart

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Because the Reps for NY/NJ and I include the Republican ones here are more decent than the Texas GOP delegation. It’s a good thing we didn’t have people like Cruz and Cornyn in office when 9/11 happened.

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nines09  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:10:32am

re: #478 jaunte

Soothing read/thread/tweet.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:14:19am

re: #478 jaunte

Interesting thread on fire ants (and their lack of genetic diversity in North America):

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omg what a horror

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Teukka  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:16:04am

re: #482 HappyWarrior

I’d try that.

If your local stores or wallet can’t hack falu sausage, you could try it with spam. 1/4” slices.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:16:17am

re: #479 Teukka

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Damn. That cheese is looking good.

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Teukka  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:16:48am

re: #487 Stanley Sea

Damn. That cheese is looking good.

It is. 15 month aged Herrgård.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:17:46am

re: #486 Teukka

If your local stores or wallet can’t hack falu sausage, you could try it with spam. 1/4” slices.

Ah ha.

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Skip Intro  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:17:57am

re: #465 jaunte

He might encourage ICE and CBP to round up more people made homeless by the storm.

I’ll be amazed if he doesn’t use the “Obama was playing golf during Katrina” line. I really will be.

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Teukka  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:19:30am

re: #489 HappyWarrior

Ah ha.

Falu sausage is somewhere between Baloney and spam in terms of texture (former) and taste (latter).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:19:32am

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Belafon  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:19:52am

re: #490 Skip Intro

I’ll be amazed if he doesn’t use the “Obama was playing golf during Katrina” line. I really will be.

“Look, Obama got out of serving in Vietnam. I don’t know why people keep holding it over my head.”

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lawhawk  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:20:03am

re: #490 Skip Intro

I’ll be amazed if he doesn’t use the “Obama was playing golf during Katrina” line. I really will be.

Considering that a majority of Louisiana GOPers think Obama was in office when Katrina hit in 2005, that’s not a reach. They are that fact-averse.

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wrenchwench  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:20:34am

re: #488 Teukka

It is. 15 month aged Herrgård.

I like my cheese aged in minutes. Tillamook, Oregon. Gotta go in person for that.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:22:09am

Just saw this image within the video linked below. Pretty sure that’s Addicks Dam during a controlled release.
It gives you some idea of how much water is being held back from rushing immediately down Buffalo Bayou through downtown.

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electrotek  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:22:18am

Instagram

downt mes wif Texus

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:22:26am

re: #491 Teukka

Falu sausage is somewhere between Baloney and spam in terms of texture (former) and taste (latter).

Have to admit not being fond of either baloney and spam. I’m trying to eat less meat. It’s working.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:22:44am

re: #437 BeachDem

An 11-year-old kid is wearing $600 Gucci loafers?

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:22:57am

Notice the tiny little white dots along the top of the dam. Those are trucks.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:23:12am

re: #494 lawhawk

Considering that a majority of Louisiana GOPers think Obama was in office when Katrina hit in 2005, that’s not a reach. They are that fact-averse.

That just shows you what we’re dealing with.

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electrotek  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:23:30am

re: #499 Ace Rothstein

An 11-year-old kid is wearing $600 Gucci loafers?

I bet they don’t even have removable insoles for orthotics.

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alloutofcrazyhere  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:24:49am

re: #494 lawhawk

Considering that a majority of Louisiana GOPers think Obama was in office when Katrina hit in 2005, that’s not a reach. They are that fact-averse.

You can’t fix stupid, but hey, at least you can vote for it.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:25:10am
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lawhawk  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:25:42am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:26:32am

re: #504 jaunte

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Really? Fuck you Donald. They’re offering to help even though you’ve done everything possible to screw up American-Mexican relations.

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BeachDem  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:27:10am

Charlie Pierce is NOT impressed with Glenn’s love letter.

There is so much wrong with this one sentence from The New York Times on Tuesday morning that it may be the single wrongest sentence in the history of wrongness, and of sentences.

Hurricane Harvey was the rarest of disasters to strike during the Trump presidency — a maelstrom not of Mr. Trump’s making, and one that offers him an opportunity to recapture some of the unifying power of his office he has squandered in recent weeks.

esquire.com

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:27:11am
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lawhawk  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:28:29am

re: #496 jaunte

More water is flowing in to the reservoirs than is flowing out; the need for those emergency releases means that they cause more flooding now that’s somewhat controlled, versus the dams overtopping and potential catastrophic failure with a massive release of water with the ensuing death toll.

Screwed if you do, fucked if you don’t. That’s an awful choice to have to make.

510
BeachDem  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:29:20am

re: #508 jaunte

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And the Trumpers are ON IT:

511
HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:30:07am

re: #510 BeachDem

And the Trumpers are ON IT:

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Mea Culpa. Didn’t realize he meant they were shouting at him.

512
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:31:08am

re: #510 BeachDem

I just walked on the tarmac to cover @realDonaldTrump’ visit to Corpus and was heckled by a crowd shouting derogatory things. Unbelievable.

Remember the Reagan quote about the scariest words in the English language being “I’m from the federal government and I’m here to help you”?

513
jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:31:14am

re: #509 lawhawk

One of my co-workers lives in a neighborhood currently being flooded by the outflow.
He first took refuge with a neighbor higher up on the street; they have now had to move to the third floor of a nearby office building to escape rising water.

514
Skip Intro  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:33:18am

re: #511 HappyWarrior

Because no one ever did that to Obama.

He’s not saying Trump was heckled, he’s say he was because he’s from CNN.

515
HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:33:49am

re: #514 Skip Intro

He’s not saying Trump was heckled, he’s say he was because he’s from CNN.

Oops my bad. Sorry.

516
Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:34:04am

Perhaps Trumps disaster of a disaster response will help turn Texas blue in 2020?

517
Targetpractice  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:34:35am

The wingnuts who worked their asses off to excuse Dubya waiting over a week before visiting NOLA in person will now argue that Trump was right to jump into Texas as the disaster is still on-going.

518
BeachDem  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:34:38am

So, Melon has changed not only her shoes, but her entire outfit. Now in sneakers, black pants, a white shirt and a hat that appears to say FLOTUS.

519
Ace Rothstein  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:35:04am

re: #516 Eclectic Cyborg

Perhaps Trumps disaster of a disaster response will help turn Texas blue in 2020?

No way. I live here and they love that orange shit stain more than life itself.

520
HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:35:05am

re: #516 Eclectic Cyborg

Perhaps Trumps disaster of a disaster response will help turn Texas blue in 2020?

If that happens, he’s finished but I don’t see that happening.

521
BeachDem  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:35:36am

re: #511 HappyWarrior

Because no one ever did that to Obama.

They were heckling the reporter, not the yam.

522
JordanRules  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:36:15am

re: #518 BeachDem

Oh geez. If her hat really says FLOTUS…..
LOL whatever Melon!

523
jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:36:39am

re: #510 BeachDem

Maybe if they followed the news they would know more about Trump.

524
Targetpractice  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:36:50am

re: #518 BeachDem

So, Melon has changed not only her shoes, but her entire outfit. Now in sneakers, black pants, a white shirt and a hat that appears to say FLOTUS.

Donny must have seen the tweets on the flight down.

525
HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:36:55am

re: #521 BeachDem

They were heckling the reporter, not the yam.

Yeah I corrected myself.

526
Ace Rothstein  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:38:08am

re: #518 BeachDem

So, Melon has changed not only her shoes, but her entire outfit. Now in sneakers, black pants, a white shirt and a hat that appears to say FLOTUS.

I refuse to watch, but is shit stain wearing one of his stupid MAGA or USA hats you can pay $40 for on his campaign website?

527
FormerDirtDart  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:38:36am

re: #368 The Vicious Babushka

And that guy Worstofall who writes for Forbes is wetting his pants because this is the “purest form of capitalism”

How’s this as a contrast to that a-hole

528
Skip Intro  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:38:39am

Who will be handing out the ceremonial box of Play-Doh?

529
ObserverArt  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:39:12am

re: #481 FormerDirtDart

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NOOOOO!!!
Ted Cruz is lying about Sandy relief funds and why he didn’t vote for them.

530
Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:39:36am

re: #518 BeachDem

So, Melon has changed not only her shoes, but her entire outfit. Now in sneakers, black pants, a white shirt and a hat that appears to say FLOTUS.

What is it with these people and hats? Imagine the RW screeching if Michelle Obama had worn something like that…

531
Skip Intro  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:39:59am

re: #526 Ace Rothstein

I refuse to watch, but is shit stain wearing one of his stupid MAGA or USA hats you can pay $40 for on his campaign website?

I expect that Melon’s entire outfit will be on sale at his site.

532
jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:40:50am

re: #526 Ace Rothstein

533
BeachDem  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:40:59am

re: #530 Eclectic Cyborg

What is it with these people and hats? Imagine the RW screeching if Michelle Obama had worn something like that…

Pa-the-tic

534
Dr Lizardo  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:41:02am

re: #530 Eclectic Cyborg

What is it with these people and hats? Imagine the RW screeching if Michelle Obama had worn something like that…

They think it makes them look like a “regular Joe” most likely.

535
Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:42:04am

re: #526 Ace Rothstein

I refuse to watch, but is shit stain wearing one of his stupid MAGA or USA hats you can pay $40 for on his campaign website?

Basically he’s taking advantage of suckers that can’t comparison shop:

536
HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:42:15am

re: #534 Dr Lizardo

They think it makes them look like a “regular Joe” most likely.

It just makes them look stupid. The baseball hat and suit look isn’t how regular people dress.

537
ObserverArt  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:43:06am

re: #494 lawhawk

Considering that a majority of Louisiana GOPers think Obama was in office when Katrina hit in 2005, that’s not a reach. They are that fact-averse.

No, not fact adverse. They like a different kind of fact. New facts. Trumpian Facts.

Alt-facts.

Remember: DO NOT TAKE LITERALLY.

538
HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:43:10am

re: #535 Eclectic Cyborg

Basically he’s taking advantage of suckers that can’t comparison shop:

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I mean campaign gear is always overpriced just like concert gear but 40 bucks for a hat?

539
sagehen  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:43:18am

re: #529 ObserverArt

NOOOOO!!!
Ted Cruz is lying about Sandy relief funds and why he didn’t vote for them.

Peter King had it right: “they’re voting against Sandy aid because they hate New York. If they try to claim there’s some other reason, they’re lying. It’s just because they hate New York.”

540
Barefoot Grin  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:43:55am

re: #533 BeachDem

Pa-the-tic

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On the FLOTUS hat: I’m sure there’s a certain element of Texan that eats that shit up.

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electrotek  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:44:03am

re: #494 lawhawk

Considering that a majority of Louisiana GOPers think Obama was in office when Katrina hit in 2005, that’s not a reach. They are that fact-averse.

But they still whine about Kanye’s infamous “George Bush don’t care about black people” remark.

542
Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:44:24am

re: #536 HappyWarrior

It just makes them look stupid. The baseball hat and suit look isn’t how regular people dress.

But it is how conspiracy theory wackos often dress.

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JordanRules  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:45:01am
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FormerDirtDart  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:45:03am

She ditched the flight jacket, changed her shirt and shoes & added the FLOTUS hat while going to a ponytail

545
FormerDirtDart  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:45:41am
546
jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:45:50am

re: #544 FormerDirtDart

*White* tennis shoes.

547
Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:46:05am

re: #543 JordanRules

This is why I keep the bottom drawer of my desk filled with non perishable food.

548
JordanRules  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:46:30am

re: #541 electrotek

Good point! That right there is some high grade, potent cognitive dissonance they are shooting up!

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nines09  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:46:49am
550
makeitstop  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:46:52am

re: #544 FormerDirtDart

Update for everyone who is obsessed with this: Melania Trump is now in tennis shoes. Princess Di is wearing a new dress

(Letting my inner Depeche Mode fan run free…)

551
FormerDirtDart  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:47:39am

re: #546 jaunte

*White* tennis shoes.

Hey, it’s probably what she has.
Also, will be great imagery once they’re all muddy and such

552
Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:47:54am

re: #544 FormerDirtDart

She ditched the flight jacket, changed her shirt and shoes & added the FLOTUS hat while going to a ponytail

Update for everyone who is obsessed with this: Melania Trump is now in tennis shoes.

So there’s one Trump who bows to public regard.

553
JordanRules  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:48:32am

re: #547 Eclectic Cyborg

Me too! I’ve got canned goods, crackers, nuts etc. People make fun of me, but I’ve come in handy even without a natural disaster. I also keep about 3 types of hot sauce too. LOL

554
jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:49:15am

re: #547 Eclectic Cyborg

This is why I keep the bottom drawer of my desk filled with non perishable food.

I brought my desk drawer stash home for the duration.

555
JordanRules  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:50:32am
556
jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:51:37am

JFC, people.

557
makeitstop  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:52:58am

re: #545 FormerDirtDart

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That thread is hilarious.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:54:47am

re: #556 jaunte

JFC, people.

[Embedded content]

These fucking morons are why we have Trump.

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JordanRules  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:55:01am

I’d bet a lot of interesting stuff happened between 2012 and 2015.
Long con.

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wrenchwench  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:55:26am

re: #553 JordanRules

Me too! I’ve got canned goods, crackers, nuts etc. People make fun of me, but I’ve come in handy even without a natural disasters. I also keep about 3 types of hot sauce too. LOL

Feminine hygiene products? Different drawer?

561
JordanRules  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:56:54am

re: #560 wrenchwench

But of course! And yes, having that drawer, came in very handy too!

562
Interesting Times  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:57:27am

*sigh* If you were worried about other horrible things (aside from the arpaio pardon) being snuck through under the cover of Harvey, you were right:

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:58:13am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:58:31am

re: #559 JordanRules

I’d bet a lot of interesting stuff happened between 2012 and 2015.
Long con.

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I wish he would have because Obama would have humiliated him.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:58:33am

re: #559 JordanRules

I’d bet a lot of interesting stuff happened between 2012 and 2015.
Long con.

Pssst…
Everything was done in Tiffany’s name, because no one would ever check there…
//

566
HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:59:22am

re: #562 Interesting Times

*sigh* If you were worried about other horrible things (aside from the arpaio pardon) being snuck through under the cover of Harvey, you were right:

[Embedded content]

Law and order my ass.

567
jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 9:59:59am
568
lawhawk  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:00:03am

Priorities. Gotta push the bigoted/racist angle at all costs.

569
JordanRules  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:00:06am
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sagehen  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:00:52am

re: #555 JordanRules

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That’s just mean.

571
Belafon  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:03:16am

kvue.com:

First responder George Walter Greenway IV posted a photo to Facebook showing a group of emergency personnel gathering inside of a Buc-ee’s store in Katy, Texas.

Katy is just west of Houston, which is dealing with severe flooding after Hurricane Harvey.

“Buc-ee’s just let emergency personnel in to stay the night. And we can eat and drink on Buc-ee’s. So everyone thank Buc-eee’s for us,” Greenway said in the post.

572
nines09  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:04:04am

re: #568 lawhawk

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Priorities. Gotta push the bigoted/racist angle at all costs.

You know they are really hoping.

573
jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:04:21am

re: #568 lawhawk

Sole witness a “presumed volunteer.”

574
jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:05:52am

The oldest craft brewery in Houston is opening up on Tuesday afternoon as a donation hub for big-hearted Houstonians.

Saint Arnold Brewing Co. said in a statement Tuesday morning that they would open their doors from 1-5 p.m. to collect donations of diapers, baby food, toiletries, and any other items that can of immediate use to Harvey victims.

575
HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:06:34am

re: #574 jaunte

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Brewing company is acting more Christian than Osteen’s church.

576
nines09  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:07:30am

re: #575 HappyWarrior

Brewing company is acting more Christian than Osteen’s church.

And they actually create things that people want and like.

577
jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:07:32am

re: #575 HappyWarrior

Well, being named for a saint has some pressure attached.

578
FormerDirtDart  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:08:11am
579
jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:09:27am
580
HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:09:33am

re: #576 nines09

And they actually create things that people want and like.

Ha that certainly is true.

581
HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:09:56am

re: #577 jaunte

Well, being named for a saint has some pressure attached.

I’d like to try their beer now. No idea how I’d find any here so far north of Houston.

582
electrotek  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:10:10am
583
HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:10:42am

re: #579 jaunte

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I don’t want them to ever again talk about secession then. but Governor TCOT and Senator Zodiac will.

584
HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:10:57am

re: #582 electrotek

[Embedded content]

Good riddance to garbage.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:12:06am

re: #583 HappyWarrior

I don’t want them to ever again talk about secession then. but Governor TCOT and Senator Zodiac will.

It’s always been a cynical pose.

586
ObserverArt  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:12:30am

re: #518 BeachDem

So, Melon has changed not only her shoes, but her entire outfit. Now in sneakers, black pants, a white shirt and a hat that appears to say FLOTUS.

Slummin’!

587
mmmirele  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:12:31am

The conservative, mostly male and mostly white heterosexuals at the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood put out a so-called Nashville Statement today. The statement is pretty much a punch in the face to women and sexual minorities. Even the mayor of Nashville is hacked off at this group for using her city’s name in their statement. I’ve been telling identified signers on Twitter that the statement is a pile of smelly garbage.

tennessean.com

588
JordanRules  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:13:24am

re: #582 electrotek

Jealous!

589
jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:13:44am
590
HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:14:32am

re: #585 jaunte

It’s always been a cynical pose.

It sure has. The same “small government” conservatives are the same ones who rallied to the Federal Marriage Amendment in 2004 and strongly supported Reagan re-upping the war on drugs in the 80’s. Small government conservatism is nothing but a sham.

591
jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:15:34am
592
lawhawk  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:15:44am

re: #590 HappyWarrior

Govt so small it fits up in the lady bits (abortion), in the bedroom (LGBT/miscegenation/etc.), and bathroom stalls (LGBT).

593
HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:16:34am

re: #591 jaunte

[Embedded content]

JFC.

594
ObserverArt  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:17:40am

re: #539 sagehen

Peter King had it right: “they’re voting against Sandy aid because they hate New York. If they try to claim there’s some other reason, they’re lying. It’s just because they hate New York.”

Pretty bad when a New York Republican asshole has to call out a Texas Republican Asshole for being the bigger asshole.

Assholes…all of them.

Reminder: Our President is an Asshole too.

595
HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:17:51am

re: #592 lawhawk

Govt so small it fits up in the lady bits (abortion), in the bedroom (LGBT/miscegenation/etc.), and bathroom stalls (LGBT).

Yep and honestly I’d like to see the Dems call them out on that. They do call them out for the bigotry part but people need to be shown that the conservative philosophy in this country is just as “big government” as they claim their detractos is. In fact, it’s worse, I can think of nothing more intrusive than interfering with taking a piss or who I love.

596
HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:18:20am

re: #594 ObserverArt

Pretty bad when a New York Republican asshole has to call out a Texas Republican Asshole for being the bigger asshole.

Assholes…all of them.

Reminder: Our President is an Asshole too.

The Asshole Party. I’m glad that most of my relatives aren’t not among their number.

597
Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:19:41am

re: #591 jaunte

Looking for edible food & water during a disaster is not looting. It’s technically called foraging and it may be a survival necessity.

You can tell looters from foragers at 50 meters.

598
Chrysicat  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:19:50am

LONG thread.

599
makeitstop  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:21:01am

re: #589 jaunte

It feels like WH staff & Abbott are going too far in saying that Trump was engaged and involved. It’s overboard.

Talking point straight from the boss, I’d wager.

600
ObserverArt  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:22:50am

re: #555 JordanRules

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Awwww. That is not nice tricking that poor doggo with a bone image in his water bowl.

Dog bites man!

601
jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:22:52am
602
Barefoot Grin  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:23:54am

re: #594 ObserverArt

Pretty bad when a New York Republican asshole has to call out a Texas Republican Asshole for being the bigger asshole.

Assholes…all of them.

Reminder: Our President is an Asshole too.

Assholes all the way down.

603
Barefoot Grin  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:25:11am

re: #601 jaunte

[Embedded content]

So this is a “kiss the ring” tour?

604
jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:25:17am

It’s hard to believe that so much in a disaster depends on Trump getting the right temperature tongue bath from Texas politicians.

605
Birth Control Works  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:25:43am

HOW IS it now?

606
ObserverArt  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:26:48am

re: #556 jaunte

JFC, people.

[Embedded content]

Question is: How many of those tweets are bots?

I’m not a twitterer. Do they ask for any kind of info that actually identifies you as a real live human? #2. Do they allow multiple accounts, either by I.P. Address, email or some other identifying factor. or is it real easy to set up multiple accounts?

Said it before…Twitter is no good with all this bot activity. They need to find a way to stop them.

607
The Vicious Babushka  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:27:11am

re: #530 Eclectic Cyborg

What is it with these people and hats? Imagine the RW screeching if Michelle Obama had worn something like that…

Gotta sell a bunch of swag.

608
makeitstop  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:27:26am

re: #603 Barefoot Grin

So this is a “kiss the ring” tour?

Pretty much. They’re hoping for enough ‘attaboys’ to make it through to the next rally in Missouri (which he won, bigly).

609
Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:28:38am

re: #603 Barefoot Grin

So this is a “kiss the ring” tour?

It’s the price of doing business. At Andrew we had established a very difficult Joint airspace management scheme in the old Eastern Airlines building. President GHW Bush and Candidate Bill Clinton’s helos really screwed it up.

610
jaunte  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:31:19am
611
ObserverArt  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:35:41am

re: #589 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Everyone has to play to both Trump’s big ego to get him to acknowledge and work with them and to keep him from flying off in a mad rage.

This asshole has no redeeming qualities as a human being let alone a leader.

America…what have you done?

612
Kragar  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:38:50am
613
goddamnedfrank  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:42:34am
614
Kragar  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:42:38am
615
Ace Rothstein  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:45:15am

re: #611 ObserverArt

Everyone has to play to both Trump’s big ego to get him to acknowledge and work with them and to keep him from flying off in a mad rage.

This asshole has no redeeming qualities as a human being let alone a leader.

America…what have you done?

I, proudly, had nothing to do with the election of this shit stain.

616
Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:45:32am

I wonder what the odds are on Trump saying something about how Obama handled Katrina.

617
Citizen K  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:46:03am

re: #614 Kragar

618
Birth Control Works  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:46:26am

re: #610 jaunte

[Embedded content]

So stealing that.

619
Chrysicat  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:46:35am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:46:49am

re: #617 Citizen K

[Embedded content]

Obama never drank oil to prevent it from spreading.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:47:46am

re: #612 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Commander Adama on police state

622
JordanRules  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:50:08am

re: #600 ObserverArt

I know, but I hear the doggo has a revenge plan that includes steak and lobster holograms on his parents dining table.

623
Ace Rothstein  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:50:10am

re: #620 HappyWarrior

Obama never drank oil to prevent it from spreading.

But the tan suit…

624
Stanley Sea  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:50:42am

Lady going OFF on CNN.

625
wrenchwench  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:51:07am
626
Ace Rothstein  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:51:46am

Still holding at 35% approval, per Gallup. That’s basically the Confederacy and the western states that have ten people each. The Rust Belt is gone.

627
HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:53:38am

re: #626 Ace Rothstein

Still holding at 35% approval, per Gallup. That’s basically the Confederacy and the western states that have ten people each. The Rust Belt is gone.

If he loses the Rust Belt, he’s finished.

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sagehen  Aug 29, 2017 • 10:56:38am

re: #405 sagehen

Speaking of… that’s exactly who’s the featured guest on the Daily Show tonight.

What’s the over/under on Trevor Noah giving them the excorciating they deserve?

ah. schedule change, I guess Haberman and Thrush wimped out. Joy Reid is now tonight’s schedule guest.

629
ObserverArt  Aug 29, 2017 • 11:02:28am

Just turned on MSNBC to catch up on the news and man , it is tough to watch all of the rescue efforts. So sad to know these people are having to leave their homes maybe to never return to them again, or only to salvage what they can.

Just saw them talk to couple of guys with bass boats helping out. One Hispanic guy said he has probably hauled over 200 people and tons of pets since yesterday. The other guy said he really doesn’t know how many but 40 to 50 just in the last few hours.

If one of the damn preacher pimps even mentions “God punishing” these people for any reason I am going to lose it. Don’t even go there.

Now Kerry Sanders is reporting 1 in 6 people have flood insurance. Uggh.

And they just showed Trump saying “We want to help like never before.”

Fucker’s arrogance knows no bounds.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 29, 2017 • 11:03:13am

re: #627 HappyWarrior

If he loses the Rust Belt, he’s finished.

Yep. Without that, he has no chance.

631
Birth Control Works  Aug 29, 2017 • 11:44:35am

re: #622 JordanRules

I know, but I hear the doggo has a revenge plan that includes steak and lobster holograms on his parents dining table.

doggo argentino?

632
danarchy  Aug 29, 2017 • 12:15:54pm

re: #563 jaunte

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Best Buy doesn’t generally sell water by the case. They sometimes have individual bottles in the little fridges at the checkout. I bet they just took their usual single bottle price and multiplied by the total number of bottles.

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BlueGrl21  Aug 29, 2017 • 6:04:11pm

re: #333 Dave In Austin

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Deadpool’s “Wet on Wet” Teaser After surviving a near fatal bovine attack, a disfigured cafeteria chef (Wade Wilson) struggles to fulfill his dream of becoming Mayberry’s hottest bartender while also learning to cope with his lost sense of taste. Searching to regain his spice ...
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Voice of America Reporter Outed as Alt-Right However, using information Fatzick himself posted on Reddit — including his age, girlfriend’s name, former employers, friends, location, educational background, and sports affiliations — this reporter was able to tie the vile posts of UncleSam4200 to the Voice of ...
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Gary Clark Jr - Come Together (Official Music Video) [From the Justice League Movie Soundtrack] Official Video for "Come Together" by Gary Clark Jr. featured in the Justice League Movie trailer. In theaters November 17th 2017.Directed by Kris Merc Get the song now at garyclarkjr.com Check out the Justice League soundtrack here: lnk.to Follow ...
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Kimbra - Top of the World (Official Music Video)New from Kimbra The new single Top of the World is available now on Apple Music, Spotify, Google Play, and more. Get the single here - kmbra.me The new studio album Primal Heart out wwide January 19th, 2018Preorder now - ...
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The Barr Brothers - Song That I Heard (Live on KEXP) kexp.org presents The Barr Brothers performing "Song That I Heard" live at Breakglass Studios during POP Montreal 2017. Recorded September 16, 2017. Audio Engineer: James BenjaminCameras: Jim Beckmann, Ian Cameron & Scott HolpainenEditor: Jim Beckmann kexp.orgpopmontreal.combreakglass.ca With support from ...
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Left Cries Foul, but Electoral College Prevents Tyranny of the Majority I'm speechless...this is what we have to fight against: Image: constitution-1486010_960_720.jpg Author: Paul Jenkins(Paul Jenkins is editor of the anchoragedailyplanet.com, a division of Porcaro Communications) The political left and its mouthpiece, The New York Times, are still fuming over ...
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Tune-Yards - Look at Your Hands (Official Video) 'Look at Your Hands' by Tune-Yards. New album 'I can feel you creep into my private life' is released January 19th 2018: smarturl.it Video by Michael SpeedFootage by Marisa Gesualdi & Jennifer SommerAdditional photos by Nate Brenner, Ginger Fierstein ...
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Beck Performing ‘Up All Night’ Live on KCRW Watch / Listen to the full session here: kcrw.com Beck has always been a chameleon and his latest Colors finds him returning to the incredibly upbeat songs that drove earlier albums like Odelay and Guero. This performance, recorded at ...
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Thundercat Performs ‘Them Changes’ With Jon Batiste & Stay Human Bass-man and musical wunderkind Thundercat sits in with the Late Show house band to perform this track off his latest album 'Drunk.' Subscribe To "The Late Show" Channel HERE: bit.lyFor more content from "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert", ...
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Andrew Bird & St Vincent Soirée De Poche #9 | Subscribe for more: bit.ly Shot in Paris in April 2009 Setlist: Part 1 - Andrew Bird00:53 - Effigy05:29 - Tenuousness09:04 - Natural Disasters Part 2 - St Vincent & Andrew Bird (from 15:00)16:00 - What Me Worry22:27 - ...
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