As Soon as He Returned From Texas, Trump Retweeted a Scam Account’s Attack on Hillary Clinton

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Donald Trump returned from his tour of Texas today, and the first thing he did was get on Twitter and retweet a blatant scam account, either a bot or an obsessed lunatic, with 150,000 followers and following 150,000 accounts, linked to a scam GoFundMe page that will probably be shut down by the time you read this. (When you see these kinds of numbers for “following” and “followed,” it means either a bot or someone who purchased their followers.)

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2017 • 8:37:02pm

Here’s a thought for the Trump supporters this post may attract:

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teleskiguy  Sep 2, 2017 • 8:40:10pm
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mmmirele  Sep 2, 2017 • 8:40:44pm

And Trump’s Evangelical followers think he’s just dandy. *rolls eyes* So tired of that nonsense.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 2, 2017 • 8:42:24pm

A software engineer friend of my observed that Twitter is incentized to -not- deal with its bots and fake followers, since the company is basically selling itself as intellectual property valuable because of its subscriber count.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 2, 2017 • 8:47:16pm
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FormerDirtDart  Sep 2, 2017 • 8:47:19pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 2, 2017 • 8:48:01pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 2, 2017 • 8:49:01pm
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FormerDirtDart  Sep 2, 2017 • 8:49:36pm
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retired cynic  Sep 2, 2017 • 8:50:13pm

re: #9 FormerDirtDart

uh oh

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stpaulbear  Sep 2, 2017 • 8:51:48pm

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2017 • 8:52:21pm

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teleskiguy  Sep 2, 2017 • 8:52:57pm

re: #9 FormerDirtDart

That’s…kind of terrifying.

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teleskiguy  Sep 2, 2017 • 8:53:53pm
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jaunte  Sep 2, 2017 • 8:54:56pm

re: #14 teleskiguy

“Shallow quakes are ‘like a bomb’”
apnews.com

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teleskiguy  Sep 2, 2017 • 8:55:27pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 2, 2017 • 8:55:32pm

re: #9 FormerDirtDart

Anyone got an explainer on what that means? I know seismic activity can mean atomic weapons testing, but is this a big one?

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Stanley Sea  Sep 2, 2017 • 8:55:37pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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What’s with the gofundme account?

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 2, 2017 • 8:56:49pm

re: #17 The Ghost of a Flea

Anyone got an explainer on what that means? I know seismic activity can mean atomic weapons testing, but is this a big one?

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2017 • 8:57:15pm
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jaunte  Sep 2, 2017 • 8:57:41pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 2, 2017 • 8:58:25pm
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FormerDirtDart  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:01:18pm

Now, I would not put it past the NK regime to set off a crap load of conventional explosives to male it appear they had just tested a new device.
But, they also may have tested their newly revealed warhead

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Stanley Sea  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:01:43pm

And our commander in chief tweeted bullshit about his opponent from last year.

fucked.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:02:02pm

re: #19 FormerDirtDart

What I mean is, is a 5.4 at 10km an indicator of a specific yield or design (such as H bomb)?

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Interesting Times  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:02:27pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

And our commander in chief tweeted bullshit about his opponent from last year.

fucked.

The Simpsons wasn’t the only show who tried to warn people…

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teleskiguy  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:03:21pm

re: #25 The Ghost of a Flea

What I mean is, is a 5.4 at 10km an indicator of a specific yield or design (such as H bomb)?

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Interesting Times  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:06:04pm

re: #27 teleskiguy

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:07:08pm

On another topic entirely, I just walked home through the SF East Bay (foot)hills. Seems cooler, but there’s no fog to be seen over the bay. Some sign of high clouds, and the forecast is for more later. I’m ready.

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teleskiguy  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:07:22pm
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FormerDirtDart  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:07:27pm

re: #25 The Ghost of a Flea

What I mean is, is a 5.4 at 10km an indicator of a specific yield or design (such as H bomb)?

The prevailing opinion seems to be Yes

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:08:43pm

Thanks to everyone that responded.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:13:42pm

And now for an encouraging display of technology

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teleskiguy  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:13:46pm

Terrifying thread from last month.

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freetoken  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:17:34pm

It’s after 9PM here… and still 91F with about 62% RH.

Gah.

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Interesting Times  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:19:34pm

Well, fuck :(

By the way, multiple reputable twitterati members (incl. Sarah Kendzior) recommend following @nktpnd for accurate and informed NK analysis.

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teleskiguy  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:20:42pm

Shit.

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:28:42pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:31:50pm

400 kilotons if the 6.3 magnitude is correct, a little over an order of magnitude greater than the last one. It’s an H-bomb. Orange Julius and the warmongers will lose their shit.

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teleskiguy  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:34:01pm

Some uplifting shit, we need it.

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Woods Witch  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:35:21pm

re: #39 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

400 kilotons if the 6.3 magnitude is correct, a little over an order of magnitude greater than the last one. It’s an H-bomb. Orange Julius and the warmongers will lose their shit.

Ever so greatful we have someone with a level head and even temper in the White House at times like these. ////

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retired cynic  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:36:18pm

re: #40 teleskiguy

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JordanRules  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:38:15pm

re: #40 teleskiguy

Jack is living his best life and I love it! Super cool.

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:41:40pm

re: #40 teleskiguy

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:42:46pm
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jaunte  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:43:09pm

Vultures.

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teleskiguy  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:46:51pm

re: #44 jaunte

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:48:46pm

re: #47 teleskiguy

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JordanRules  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:49:05pm
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FormerDirtDart  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:50:46pm
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Dave In Austin  Sep 2, 2017 • 9:54:59pm

Looks like they burned a big un’ this time. I wonder how deep they planted it?

In the mining industry this is known as a “Glory Hole”.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:00:35pm

Hair Furor must be asleep. Hope he’s not drunk.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:00:45pm

re: #46 jaunte

Vultures.

The worst hate. We are seeing right before our eyes.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:01:29pm

thread from March on NK tunneling for tests

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BeachDem  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:02:24pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

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Please forward it to Glenn and ask that he remove his head from his ass for at least a few minutes.

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:02:40pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:12:50pm

Just gave the kit some catnip.

Always glorious.

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retired cynic  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:14:07pm

re: #58 Stanley Sea

Just gave the kit some catnip.

Always glorious.

My three are so old that they just lay in it and smile.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:16:07pm

re: #59 retired cynic

My three are so old that they just lay in it and smile.

She’s writhing on her scratch incline.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:16:19pm

So cool….. Notice the 0G agility thru the station towards the end.

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:21:30pm
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electrotek  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:21:47pm

Why has Hurricane Harvey made me go back to rediscovering Harvey Danger’s debut album from 20 years ago all of a sudden?

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:21:54pm

“… Police said the contractors were in a “confined, well-type” area at the Bruce Mansfield Power Station in Beaver County when hydrogen sulfide gas was released early Wednesday. Police said 34-year-old Kevin Bachner and 42-year-old John Gorchock were unable to reach safety and were killed.

Pennsylvania State Police said the workers removed an elbow joint from a pipe, releasing hydrogen sulfide gas, CBS Pittsburgh reports.

“The line was not supposed to be charged, obviously. They got to the last bolt to crack it open and when they did so, this nauseous gas, hydrogen sulfide-type mixture immediately incapacitates you,” State Police Lt. Eric Hermick said.

State police say first responders did all they could to rescue the men that were trapped, but it was too late. …”

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:22:08pm

The comrades at DPRK News have weighed in:

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JordanRules  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:22:41pm

re: #56 BeachDem

And you know he really thought he was doing something with that writing. It’s laughable and pitiful.

The NYT Magglenn duo should work for a high school newspaper with the expectation that their skills will need to get a lot better to make it in the big leagues.

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sagehen  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:24:22pm

re: #45 jaunte

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I wonder how many citizens they’re going to pick up? ‘Cause you know people running from a flood don’t have their birth certificates in their pockets.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:24:29pm
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:34:25pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:35:54pm

re: #64 FormerDirtDart

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The Bruce Mansfield Power Plant is located next to the Shippingport Nuclear Power Station and the decommissioned Rickover Thorium Breeder Reactor.

Dad worked there…

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:36:48pm

No comment from the president.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:36:53pm
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retired cynic  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:37:04pm

Doesn’t it seem to you like more and more gets piled on, until everybody breaks?

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teleskiguy  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:38:01pm

re: #73 retired cynic

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JordanRules  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:38:38pm

re: #73 retired cynic

Yes. Very much yes.

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BeachDem  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:55:08pm

re: #66 JordanRules

And you know he really thought he was doing something with that writing. It’s laughable and pitiful.

The NYT Magglenn duo should work for a high school newspaper with the expectation that their skills will need to get a lot better to make it in the big leagues.

I like Magglenn—also saw someone refer to them as Gleggie. I think they’re frustrated romance novel writers.

To clarify—I like the use of Magglenn as a name—can’t stand Maggie or Glenn.

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JordanRules  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:55:11pm
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BeachDem  Sep 2, 2017 • 10:57:57pm

re: #71 Single-handed sailor

No comment from the president.

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But the bad spelling lives on—HEREOS (like Cheerios, but thinner.)

Melania’s nauseating press release also used “effected” instead of “affected” twice.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 2, 2017 • 11:10:33pm

re: #51 Dave In Austin

Looks like they burned a big un’ this time. I wonder how deep they planted it?

In the mining industry this is known as a “Glory Hole”.

Not just in the mining industry..

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 2, 2017 • 11:26:07pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 2, 2017 • 11:29:38pm

Japan’s confirming it.

We’re in a dark new world.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 2, 2017 • 11:36:18pm

re: #80 Single-handed sailor

re: #81 teleskiguy

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 2, 2017 • 11:45:06pm
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 2, 2017 • 11:49:17pm

re: #83 FormerDirtDart

If that’s indeed true, that’s something of a technological quantum leap for the North Koreans. Their nuclear scientists are not to be underestimated.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 2, 2017 • 11:50:15pm

re: #84 Dr Lizardo

The nuke in question, apparently.

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JordanRules  Sep 2, 2017 • 11:52:17pm

So many countries will recalculate their security strategies and not in a way that we’d hoped for prior to November.

Mueller and North Korea create a dynamic that makes 45 more dangerous than his default which is already horrendous.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:00:32am

re: #86 JordanRules

So many countries will recalculate their security strategies and not in a way that we’d hoped for prior to November.

Mueller and North Korea create a dynamic that makes 45 more dangerous than his default which is already horrendous.

A local conservative shill was saying a few days ago that the U.S. should ENCOURAGE Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and Cthulhu knows who else to acquire their own nukes. In Australia there have been advocates of a national nuclear force since 1945. During most of that time, they have been regarded as cranks. Their credibility has been growing since Trump’s election, however, and probably just took a gigantic leap forward.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:03:24am

re: #86 JordanRules

So many countries will recalculate their security strategies and not in a way that we’d hoped for prior to November.

Mueller and North Korea create a dynamic that makes 45 more dangerous than his default which is already horrendous.

The common view of Kim Jong-un is that he’s an “unstable, irrational madman”; on the contrary, he realizes that it is Trump who is unstable and irrational and is trying to create a deterrent nuclear capability to prevent the US from attacking his country. I also think that Kim realizes that Trump is all hat, no cattle (as they’re fond of saying in Texas) so Kim can bluster to his heart’s content, reasonably secure in the knowledge that Trump will back down because Trump is, at heart, a coward.

At least, that’s Kim Jong-un’s calculation. He could very well be wrong - much like the historic mistake Josef Stalin made in regard to Adolf Hitler; Stalin refused to believe that Hitler would attack the USSR (even when supplied with overwhelming evidence on the very eve of Operation Barbarossa) because he’d miscalculated that Hitler was a rational actor, a miscalculation that led to the deaths of millions.

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teleskiguy  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:08:42am
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Kilroy was here  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:08:58am

re: #88 Dr Lizardo

The common view of Kim Jong-un is that he’s an “unstable, irrational madman”; on the contrary, he realizes that it is Trump who is unstable and irrational and is trying to create a deterrent nuclear capability to prevent the US from attacking his country. I also think that Kim realizes that Trump is all hat, no cattle (as they’re fond of saying in Texas) so Kim can bluster to his heart’s content, reasonably secure in the knowledge that Trump will back down because Trump is, at heart, a coward.

At least, that’s Kim Jong-un’s calculation. He could very well be wrong - much like the historic mistake Josef Stalin made in regard to Adolf Hitler; Stalin refused to believe that Hitler would attack the USSR (even when supplied with overwhelming evidence on the very eve of Operation Barbarossa) because he’d miscalculated that Hitler was a rational actor, a miscalculation that led to the deaths of millions.

Well thanks for nightmare fuel… (Not that I hadn’t already gone there)

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Bass Reeves  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:10:57am

re: #88 Dr Lizardo

Hitler was an irrational actor? German military at the time was amazeballs (to be technical).

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:14:58am

Since the US first emerged as a world power in the late 19th century, there has been a tacit assumption around the world that the president of the United States would always be competent and rational. Whether other governments and peoples loved him or reviled him, they always assumed that the president would not be a fool or a lunatic. It was conventional wisdom that the American ruling class would not allow such a person to reach the office. That assumption has been shattered now. We have entered a new and very dark era.

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JordanRules  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:16:22am

re: #87 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Seeing the devolution of global nuclear disarmament as a probable and good force for humanity in the 21st century is jarring.

re: #88 Dr Lizardo

That Stalin-Hitler view is so apt and frightening. I tend to rely on 45s overall ignorance and historic statements on nuclear weapons to inform my belief that cornered cowards can quickly turn the corner and drive head-on into the previously unthinkable.

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JordanRules  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:17:41am

re: #92 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

This!!!!

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:18:16am

re: #91 Bass Reeves

Hitler was an irrational actor? German military at the time was amazeballs (to be technical).

From the point of view of German military doctrine of the time, he was. By invading the Soviet Union, Hitler was committing German forces to a two-front war, the stuff of nightmares for German generals. Britain was still very much in the war at that point, and Stalin reckoned that Hitler wouldn’t be so foolish as to attempt to invade the USSR while still fighting the British Empire.

Yet he did.

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JordanRules  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:27:58am

re: #95 Dr Lizardo

More generally, seems to me that you can have technically amazing armed forces (an institution that usually has deep roots in established states) and an irrational leader.

I mean…

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Bass Reeves  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:29:03am

re: #95 Dr Lizardo
Tou.bleeping.Che.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:38:05am

re: #96 JordanRules

More generally, seems to me that you can have technically amazing armed forces (an institution that usually has deep roots in established states) and an irrational leader.

I mean…

Certainly, and that’s a genuinely terrifying prospect.

Somewhat reminiscent of one of my favorite quotes, from General Kurt von Hammerstein-Equord, well-known for being long opposed to Hitler, having been involved in several plots to bump off Der Führer.

I divide my officers into four groups. There are clever, diligent, stupid, and lazy officers. Usually two characteristics are combined. Some are clever and diligent — their place is the General Staff. The next lot are stupid and lazy — they make up 90 percent of every army and are suited to routine duties. Anyone who is both clever and lazy is qualified for the highest leadership duties, because he possesses the intellectual clarity and the composure necessary for difficult decisions. One must beware of anyone who is stupid and diligent — he must not be entrusted with any responsibility because he will always cause only mischief.

General Hammerstein died of cancer before Hitler and his cronies could string him up. Quite pointedly, his family refused an official funeral at Berlin’s Invalidenfriedhof Cemetery, because this would have meant that his coffin would have been covered by the Reichskriegsflagge with the swastika, so he was buried at the family’s graveyard in Steinhorst, in Lower Saxony. Hitler ordered the sending of a wreath with a message of condolence, but the wreath was never displayed at the funeral because it had been “forgotten” in the Berlin subway by Hammerstein’s family.

“Forgotten”. Heh.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:40:04am

North Korea’s full statement on today’s nuclear test.

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teleskiguy  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:42:57am
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teleskiguy  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:48:29am

China is the only entity with any leverage at this point.

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JordanRules  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:56:43am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:05:24am

re: #101 teleskiguy

And that could be a miscalculation on Kim’s part - he probably figures that China’s got his back no matter what.

I’d imagine that somewhere in Beijing, in someone’s office, a conversation like this is probably taking place right about now.

[OFFICIAL “A”] Jesus, again? What the fuck is this punk kid up to? Is he trying to start a war or something? He needs to calm down.

[OFFICIAL “B”] Yeah, but what can we do aside from issue a ‘strongly-worded’ official condemnation? We’ve had a treaty with the DPRK for decades and they’re one of our longest-standing allies.

[OFFICIAL “A”] Are you fucking kidding me?! This guy is now a major liability. These little stunts of his, this chest-thumping, could ignite a regional war, one that would almost certainly draw the USA into it and we can’t have that right on our goddamn doorstep. No way, now how……he’s gotta go. No more of this horseshit.

And then decisions will be made, one way or another.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:07:27am

re: #91 Bass Reeves

Hitler was an irrational actor? German military at the time was amazeballs (to be technical).

The German military did their job competently, but Hitler as overall commander was an absolute mess…to the point that anyone else in the same position might have let Germany get farther towards its objectives before Stalin rolled over them.

Key failings:

- obsession with Wunderwaffen production, which put huge quantities of cash into fancies that didn’t actually contribute to the overall war effort. Even the V1 and V2, while terrifying, weren’t worth a damn as a strategic weapon.
- the Dunkirk withdrawal: had the Germans actually pressed the advantage harder, the British would have been demoralized and even less prepared for the Battle of Britain. Seelowe would have been a lot more feasible.
- switching from airfields and other strategic targets to city bombing during the Battle of Britain.
- not necessarily just Hitler, but the buck stops with the Fuhrer: the emphasis on terror and eliminationism galvanized resistance and made it very clear that this wasn’t “normal” war. I mean, the response to Anthropoid—the Czech assassination of Heydrich—involved leveling whole towns and executing wives and family of the team.
- Molotov-Ribentrop, arguably, because it gave the Soviets time to spin up and brace before Reinhardt. Indeed, the whole conflict as envisioned by Hitler and pals utterly failed to recognize the Russian Steamroller problem that people had been discussing for centuries. It still would have been a giant mess, but lunging at the USSR first might have been a better play.
- providing resources and ultimately military aid to other European fascists for little gain: Franco being too cagey to commit, Mussolini being an ass. In particular, backing the Italian invasion of Greece, which altered the Reinhardt timetable.
- declaring war on the US in solidarity with Japan.

One of the things that tends to get omitted from popular history was how many of the Hitler assassinations were conducted by Wehrmacht generals who wanted to re-militarize and colonize, but weren’t down with the man-baby tantrums that governed overall strategy. They just wanted their Prussian militarism back.

Having done a great deal of reading about Nazi Germany and Hitler in particular over the last two years…I’d seriously say that Hitler is the most overrated figure in history. He had no especial intelligence, no leadership skills, just a talent for speaking and being charming in a way that made more competent men accept his stupid ideas as solid. Much of his reputation was the product of heavy stage-managing by Martin Bormann.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:10:02am

re: #101 teleskiguy

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China is the only entity with any leverage at this point.

At a guess…these latest rounds of missiles and tests isn’t even about us (US), it’s about throwing enough dog shit to get China’s attention, even as China is looking elsewhere in the world (Belts and Roads initiative) and shutting down its pipeline of goods and material.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:14:33am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:15:00am

re: #105 The Ghost of a Flea

At a guess…these latest rounds of missiles and tests isn’t even about us (US), it’s about throwing enough dog shit to get China’s attention, even as China is looking elsewhere in the world (Belts and Roads initiative) and shutting down its pipeline of goods and material.

Also, the DPRK is potentially facing another famine situation. Apparently, the country was hit with a disastrous drought, leading to (more-or-less) a collapse of their agricultural production. One Chinese source said he recently saw some North Korean soldiers up near the DPRK/China border and the way he described it, they are in no condition whatsoever to fight, at the least the individuals he saw. He described them as “emaciated”.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:36:35am

Gospel writer and actor Tyler Perry is confused:

washingtonpost.com

Tyler Perry has pledged to donate $1 million to help hurricane victims in Texas. But the filmmaker also made a much more surprising announcement: $250,000 of those funds would go to televangelist Joel Osteen’s Houston-based megachurch.

… .

In a video posted to Facebook on Friday, Perry explained his decision to send a quarter of his donation to Osteen’s church. “I know there’s been some controversy about Joel Osteen and him not opening the doors of the church. Let me tell you something: Joel and Victoria are amazing people. There’s no way they would lock people out of the church and not let people in for shelter. There were some safety concerns. I spoke to them on the phone, and it all made perfect sense to me.”

Apparently a lot of his fans on Twitter and Facebook are … ah … dismayed with his decision. One person was very happy:

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teleskiguy  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:41:31am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:42:53am

Juanita Jean is stunned:

Blake Farenthold, the congressvarmint from Corpus Christie and Donald Trump devotee just lost his crazy mind.

Farenthold had a heartbeat of sanity sneak up on him. Farenthold was the biggest supporter of building the wall against Mexico until a reporter asked him last week: “Should the president put aside his plans to build the wall and fund it for now?”

After stuttering around for a bit, Farenthold, imitating a sane person, replied.

“So should the president put aside his plans to build the wall and fund it for now?” she replied.

“Again, I think, we,” Farenthold stumbled before continuing definitively. “Yes, there is a simple answer to that question is yes.”

“There’s enough going on in Texas,” he added, “the contractors that might be building the wall would certainly be better served helping rebuild Houston.”

I was shocked to hear that, but I don’t think I am near as shocked as Farenthold. I imagine that Trump will try to fire him before tomorrow.

Holy Damn Cow in Duckie Pajamas (goes to Juanita Jean’s World’s Most Dangerous Beauty Salon)

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teleskiguy  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:47:33am

re: #109 teleskiguy

I’m sort of in awe that I tweeted this over four years ago.

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JordanRules  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:48:32am

re: #108 Anymouse 🌹

Safety concerns huh. Not sure if that should be lumped in with the ‘we did have some flooding’ excuse or if should be it’s own excuse which by my count would be #4.

Wouldn’t characterize him just as gospel any longer, he’s done lots of mainstream black productions. He has lots of money and power in his space. But church-centric is where he started and it is his strong base. Lots of folks I know were pretty pissed at his decision to jump out in support of this fraudster. I’ve given Perry the side-eye for a while tho.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:50:08am

re: #111 teleskiguy

I’m sort of in awe that I tweeted this over four years ago.

Why in awe? I don’t understand.

I assume that isn’t about what Christopher Hitchns’s position on women’s empowerment was: Lots of people have held the same opinion, and statistics of nations bear it out.

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teleskiguy  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:54:16am

re: #113 Anymouse 🌹

In awe (and disbelief, perhaps that’s the better word) because we keep taking steps backward.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:57:15am

re: #112 JordanRules

Safety concerns huh. Not sure if that should be lumped in with the ‘we did have some flooding’ excuse or if should be it’s own excuse which by my count would be #4.

Wouldn’t characterize him just as gospel any longer, he’s done lots of mainstream black productions. He has lots of money and power in his space. But church-centric is where he started and it is his strong base. Lots of folks I know were pretty pissed at his decision to jump out in support of this fraudster. I’ve given Perry the side-eye for a while tho.

You’re not the only one. The Boondocks absolutely roasted him a few years back. It was glorious.

dailymotion.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 3, 2017 • 2:01:39am

Irma’s track has been pushed further south, putting the Leeward Islands in the crosshairs, along with a brush with Puerto Rico and a direct strike on The Bahamas.

A recurve to the north before approaching the continental United States is looking less likely, and Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina look like they could be a target in about a week.

nhc.noaa.gov

The disturbance behind it is further south, and following the same track. If that thing spins up like Irma and moves into the Gulf of Mexico, that would be a double disaster for Texas and Louisiana. For now, it’s too far away to make a prediction, but the NHC gives it a 70% chance of becoming a tropical cyclone within five days.

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teleskiguy  Sep 3, 2017 • 2:15:25am

Photo taken outside the Phish show in Colorado tonight.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 3, 2017 • 2:19:51am

Pathetic! We’ve now been reduced to outsourcing our nut-jobs.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 3, 2017 • 2:31:49am

re: #118 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Pathetic! We’ve now been reduced to outsourcing our nut-jobs.

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That might have something to do with Trump’s shout out the other day to India to put pressure on Pakistan to reign in various terrorist factions affecting Afghanistan.

India of course has zero ability to make the Pakistani government do anything, and Pakistan is having enough trouble with terrorists striking within their country.

However, that shout out against India’s long-standing rival, with a nationalistic BNP in power, plumped them up. I suspect a lot of right-wingers in India were pleased with Trump’s scolding of Pakistan.

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Varek Raith  Sep 3, 2017 • 2:34:22am

What is that, about a 200ish kt yield?

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 2:34:42am

A very sensible statement from the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs in regard to Kim Jong-un’s latest stunt:

This latest demonstrative disregard by Pyongyang of the requirements of the relevant resolutions of the UN Security Council and the norms of international law deserves the strongest condemnation.

In the unfolding conditions, it is imperative to remain calm and to refrain from any actions that lead to a further escalation of tension.

We call on all interested parties to immediately return to dialogue and negotiations as the only possible way for an overall settlement of the problems of the Korean peninsula.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 2:37:04am

re: #120 Varek Raith

What is that, about a 200ish kt yield?

About 100 Kt from what I’ve read, though possibly as high as 300 Kt. IIRC, the biggest warhead the US currently deploys is 400 Kt (I forgot the name of it, though).

If the DPRK has successfully shot a Teller-Ulam design warhead, that’s quite the technological advancement in a very short period of time.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 3, 2017 • 2:39:28am

From BBC

China’s predictable but strong response

The BBC’s Robin Brant in Shanghai said rebukes don’t come much stronger than that issued by China.

“North Korea’s sixth nuclear weapons test is an utter rejection of all that its only ally has called for. Beijing’s response was predictable: condemnation, urging an end to provocation and dialogue. But it also spoke of urging North Korea to ‘face up to the firm will’ of the international community to see denuclearisation on the Korean peninsula.”

China ‘upstaged and embarassed’

Robin says there’s no sign, though, that China is willing yet to see that “firm will” go beyond UN sanctions which recently clamped down on seafood and iron ore exports, in addition to the coal and minerals that are already banned from crossing the border.

“It’s noteworthy that this test took place just as China’s president was about to welcome a handful of world leaders to a two-day showpiece summit here on the east coast. Set piece international events like this are important to China. But even the state-controlled media will find it hard to ignore the fact that their man has been upstaged - embarrassed too - by its almost universally ostracised ally and neighbour.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 3, 2017 • 2:39:57am

re: #120 Varek Raith

What is that, about a 200ish kt yield?

Up at #80:

re: #80 Single-handed sailor

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Varek Raith  Sep 3, 2017 • 2:40:39am

re: #122 Dr Lizardo

About 100 Kt from what I’ve read, though possibly as high as 300 Kt. IIRC, the biggest warhead the US currently deploys is 400 Kt (I forgot the name of it, though).

If the DPRK has successfully shot a Teller-Ulam design warhead, that’s quite the technological advancement in a very short period of time.

W78 for the minute man IIIs.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 2:41:37am

re: #125 Varek Raith

W78 for the minute man IIIs.

That’s the one. Thanks for jogging my memory.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 3, 2017 • 2:42:57am

re: #125 Varek Raith

W78 for the minute man IIIs.

We have those lying around the High Plains all around here. We harvest W78s in late September, after the corn is in. /s

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Varek Raith  Sep 3, 2017 • 2:46:54am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 3, 2017 • 2:48:29am

As for earthquakes in the USA, what the heck is going on in Soda Springs, Idaho?

Although most of the earthquakes there are not particularly remarkable, the fact they seem to have had over two dozen in twenty-four hours in the same spot seem strange to me (though I am not a geologist).

earthquake.usgs.gov

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Varek Raith  Sep 3, 2017 • 2:50:49am

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹

As for earthquakes in the USA, what the heck is going on in Soda Springs, Idaho?

Although most of the earthquakes there are not particularly remarkable, the fact they seem to have had over two dozen in twenty-four hours in the same spot seem strange to me (though I am not a geologist).

earthquake.usgs.gov

Fracking?

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 3, 2017 • 2:53:05am

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹

As for earthquakes in the USA, what the heck is going on in Soda Springs, Idaho?

Although most of the earthquakes there are not particularly remarkable, the fact they seem to have had over two dozen in twenty-four hours in the same spot seem strange to me (though I am not a geologist).

earthquake.usgs.gov

Ah, no worries, I looked it up.

Soda Springs, Idaho is just about in the centre of the Yellowstone Hotspot.

A crapload of earthquakes there shouldn’t be anything to worry about. /s

If Yellowstone did blow, I’d be under two hundred feet of ash so fast I probably wouldn’t notice it. And I still wouldn’t have a car, it would be buried in Sterling.

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Varek Raith  Sep 3, 2017 • 2:54:41am

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹

Ah, no worries, I looked it up.

Soda Springs, Idaho is just about in the centre of the Yellowstone Hotspot.

A crapload of earthquakes there shouldn’t be anything to worry about. /s

If Yellowstone did blow, I’d be under two hundred feet of ash so fast I probably wouldn’t notice it. And I still wouldn’t have a car, it would be buried in Sterling.

Ah, just a super volcano then.
/:P

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 3, 2017 • 2:59:26am

re: #132 Varek Raith

Ah, just a super volcano then.
/:P

Actually, it’s on the edge of the hotspot, not in the middle of it. I didn’t read the map very well. (The centre of the Yellowstone Hotspot is Yellowstone Caldera, hence its name, in NW Wyoming.)

Make that forty feet of ash then. That’s a whole lot closer to me. Need a good SW to S wind to blow the ash plume away from me.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 3, 2017 • 3:04:34am

On Trump’s business and economics bachelor’s degree Oklahoma representative whose experience is in ranching and real estate, a wag at Wonkette commented:

404: Intelligent life not found

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teleskiguy  Sep 3, 2017 • 3:05:13am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 3, 2017 • 3:15:42am

Both Senator Rubio (R) and Senator Nelson (D) of Florida condemned Donald Trump’s pick of Oklahoma Representative, rancher, real estate agent, and climate science denier Bridenstine (R).

I suppose the bipartisan complaint from the Florida senators underscores the importance of NASA to Florida.

Bridenstine was asked why he is so interested in space. What an incredibly derpy answer: He says he is interested in space because Oklahoma gets a lot of tornadoes.

Bridenstein is an early Trump supporter that attacked Rubio with two adverts in the primaries, and supports Trump’s border wall. (That’s probably why Trump picked him.) He also calls Rubio weak on border security, an important position for a NASA official to take.

Nelson pointed out the NASA Administrator has never been a politician, and NASA really needs a scientist. Bridenstein did fly fighter jets for the Navy and ran the Tulsa Air and Space Museum, so there’s that.

politico.com

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 3:28:22am

And that’s pretty much China’s reaction.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 3, 2017 • 3:30:28am

re: #120 Varek Raith

What is that, about a 200ish kt yield?

The number I saw was 130Kt.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 3, 2017 • 3:31:15am

Several pastors, writing about the large peaceful protest movements against Donald Trump and the small number of violent people who attend them note:

If you’re waiting for a perfect protest, you’re never going to get one.

From the New York Times in an opinion piece (more at the link):

Thanks to the sanitized images of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and the civil rights movement that dominate our nation’s classrooms and our national discourse, many Americans imagine that protests organized by the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee and countless local organizations fighting for justice did not fall victim to violent outbreaks. That’s a myth. In spite of extensive training in nonviolent protest and civil disobedience, individuals and factions within the larger movement engaged in violent skirmishes, and many insisted on their right to physically defend themselves even while they proclaimed nonviolence as an ideal (examples include leaders of the SNCC and the Deacons for Defense and Justice in Mississippi).

The reality — which is underdiscussed but essential to an understanding of our current situation — is that the civil rights work of Dr. King and other leaders was loudly opposed by overt racists and quietly sabotaged by cautious moderates. We believe that current moderates sincerely want to condemn racism and to see an end to its effects. The problem is that this desire is outweighed by the comfort of their current circumstances and a perception of themselves as above some of the messy implications of fighting for liberation. This is nothing new. In fact, Dr. King’s 1963 “Letter From Birmingham Jail” is as relevant today as it was then. He wrote in part:

I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizens Councilor or the Ku Klux Klanner but the white moderate who is more devoted to order than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says, “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can’t agree with your methods of direct action.”

nytimes.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 3, 2017 • 3:44:41am

Fire weather warnings go up in the Nebraska Panhandle.

Currently here, it is 55F. Tomorrow’s high is 100F. Sunny, S wind becoming N, smoke in the afternoon (from the fires north of us).

Don’t really want to see a prairie fire. There has only been one fire here since we moved here, in the ravines south of town and the river. (Fortunately, our village has the proper fire fighting equipment for off-road fire fighting in canyons and ravines.) Here on the flatter part north of the river, if we had a prairie fire the town would go up like a match in a few minutes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 3, 2017 • 4:02:20am

Stonekette and his followers got someone banned on Twitter for scamming, claiming the US Army was asking for donations for soldiers, with a fake link.

The Army does not ask for donations for soldiers.

There is another on his timeline that needs to be reported:

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 4:05:18am

OK, so OT, but a student of mine (he’s a film reviewer for a local ‘zine) got done watching It - an advance viewing for film critics. He let me know that he thought it was a really good film; “creepy” as he put it, and with solid acting from all concerned and good character development. He’d seen the 1990 miniseries previously (and read a Czech translation of the book), and said he preferred Skarsgård’s interpretation of Pennywise to Curry’s.

So…….I’m looking forward to seeing it when it comes out here.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 3, 2017 • 4:18:15am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 3, 2017 • 4:22:24am

Strange that FOX News Channel would even mention this (even though they are months late, as this has been in the news for quite awhile). Tea Pain’s answer is LOLworthy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 3, 2017 • 4:24:50am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 4:50:57am

The Orange One has tweeted.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 4:53:01am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 4:54:59am
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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:07:58am

A thought experiment:

If punching is the right response to a Nazi with a tiki torch, what is the appropriate action for a Juche maniac who is somewhere between Trinity and Castle Bravo?

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:13:02am

re: #150 Decatur Deb

A thought experiment:

If punching is the right response to a Nazi with a tiki torch, what is the appropriate action for a Juche maniac who is somewhere between Trinity and Castle Bravo?

A bitch slap upside the head?

Truth is, this is an extraordinarily difficult situation with no easy or simple solutions.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:14:04am

Well, I’m off to bed.

The paper delivery guy just knocked at my door. He was checking to see if we were all right because the window was open, the lights on, and the car missing for a couple days.

“Didn’t you see it parked on the street wrecked for two days?”

He didn’t though he walks by it every morning. I filled him in on what happened.

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jeffreyw  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:14:15am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:14:31am

re: #151 Dr Lizardo

A bitch slap upside the head?

Truth is, this is an extraordinarily difficult situation with no easy or simple solutions.

So is the North Korean problem.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:18:33am

re: #152 Anymouse 🌹

Because of course he does. That’s how Trump rolls.

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dangerman  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:19:44am

re: #1 jaunte

Here’s a thought for the Trump supporters this post may attract:

[Embedded content]If you’re praising someone for meeting the very minimum tests of the lower boundary of leadership on the second try…raise your standards.

they do this because the base has no memory or self reflection:

this is the gambit.

1. do what you want, generally messing it up badly
2. get the public’s and media reaction
3. correct and redo the event factoring in all the criticism
4. act as though#1 never happened

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:20:18am

Debate between Sarah Kendior (scholar of authoritarian states) and Dr John Nilsson-Wright, senior research fellow for northeast Asia with the Asia Programme at Chatham House.

The question: Is there a real risk of nuclear action between the USA and North Korea?

Ms. Kendzior says yes and gives her reasons. Dr. Nilsson-Wright takes the opposite position and also says why he thinks that.

cityam.com

Ms. Kendzior starts:

Unfortunately, there is a real risk - and Donald Trump is more likely to use nuclear weapons than Kim Jong-un. Trump has been obsessed with nuclear weapons since 1984, when he proclaimed he could learn all he needed to know about them in an hour and a half. In 1987, he discussed dropping nuclear weapons on Pakistan and France, and in 1990, he proclaimed their use inevitable. In 2016, Trump asked “if we have them, why not use them?”

Dr. Nilsson-Wright starts:

Despite Donald Trump’s bellicose warning of “fire and fury” if North Korea continues its provocations, nuclear war is highly unlikely. US military might is there to deter the DPRK from attacking, and Kim Jong-un is rational and knows that launching an attack, conventional or nuclear, would be suicidal.

(more at the link from both)

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:20:33am

re: #155 Dr Lizardo

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Because of course he does. That’s how Trump rolls.

We poisoned ourselves in November, and all we’ve done since is argue about the taste of the antidote.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:22:22am

re: #157 Anymouse 🌹

Debate between Sarah Kendior (scholar of authoritarian states) and Dr John Nilsson-Wright, senior research fellow for northeast Asia with the Asia Programme at Chatham House.

The question: Is there a real risk of nuclear action between the USA and North Korea?

Ms. Kendzior says yes and gives her reasons. Dr. Nilsson-Wright takes the opposite position and also says why he thinks that.

cityam.com

Ms. Kendzior starts:

Dr. Nilsson-Wright starts:

(more at the link from both)

So everythin’ gonna be alright if both Trump and Kim are sane.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:22:26am

4 years ago today at LGF. People saw it coming, but had no idea how bad it was going to get.
Matt Drudge Tweets: “Putin is the leader of the free world…”

At the time I wrote:

Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Libertarian Party?

Obama Derangement Syndrome has finally, literally driven the right-wing insane; not misinformed or callous or hasty in its decisions, but drooling, hallucinating, tree climbing, bug molester crazy: Vlad “KGB” Putin and his police state have assumed leadership of the free world. Not just “Pussy Riot,” but assorted gay rights activists, and various opposition politicians and journalists could not be reached for comment.
This delusion is only the latest and most spectacular result of a long-running problem: Many Americans, perhaps a majority, have no idea what the rest of the world is like. They look at NSA and various other real and alleged abuses and assume that nothing like it, let alone a lot worse, goes on elsewhere.
Finally, if the US really is a fascist state, why are Drudge, Alex Jones, and their legions of obnoxious disciples not rotting in FEMA camp?
…….
Imagine the right’s reaction if lefty journalists had said something like this during the Cold War. These people are fucking subversives, disloyal to the core.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:23:39am

re: #158 Decatur Deb

We poisoned ourselves in November, and all we’ve done since is argue about the taste of the antidote.

“I want grape flavor!”

“No, I want it to taste awful because then I know it’ll work!”

Repeat ad nauseam, ad infinitum.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:25:20am

re: #119 Anymouse 🌹

That might have something to do with Trump’s shout out the other day to India to put pressure on Pakistan to reign in various terrorist factions affecting Afghanistan.

India of course has zero ability to make the Pakistani government do anything, and Pakistan is having enough trouble with terrorists striking within their country.

However, that shout out against India’s long-standing rival, with a nationalistic BNP in power, plumped them up. I suspect a lot of right-wingers in India were pleased with Trump’s scolding of Pakistan.

Great! Now Trump is inciting a second nuclear war.

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Woods Witch  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:27:14am

re: #159 Decatur Deb

So everythin’ gonna be alright if both Trump and Kim are sane.

Assumes facts not in evidence.

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Danack  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:27:37am

re: #149 Dr Lizardo

North Korea … only understand one thing!

North Korea definitely understands, after watching the Libya, Syria and Iraq situations that the US and Russia feel free to intervene in any conflict that they feel like, with only minimal costs to them, and it is only by having a stock of nuclear weapons that a country can be guaranteed not to be invaded casually.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:28:26am

re: #163 Woods Witch

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Assumes a state that is definably not true.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:28:49am

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:30:25am

re: #164 Danack

North Korea definitely understands, after watching the Libya, Syria and Iraq situations that the US and Russia feel free to intervene in any conflict that they feel like, with only minimal costs to them, and it is only by having a stock of nuclear weapons that a country can be guaranteed not to be invaded casually.

Exactly. For Kim, this is more about ensuring the long-term survival of his state (and presumably, his own hide) than it is about launching an attack against the US mainland, or Japan or South Korea, which he (hopefully) knows would promptly lead to his annihilation.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:30:43am

re: #164 Danack

North Korea definitely understands, after watching the Libya, Syria and Iraq situations that the US and Russia feel free to intervene in any conflict that they feel like, with only minimal costs to them, and it is only by having a stock of nuclear weapons that a country can be guaranteed not to be invaded casually.


I
n On the Juche Idea, Kim Jong-il stated, “Self-reliance in defense is a fundamental principle of an independent sovereign state”.[76] He stated that it was possible to get aid from friends and allies, but that this would be only effective if the state was militarily strong in its own right.[77] He advocated a state where “all the people are under arms and the whole country becomes a fortress”.[78] He also advocated the development of a local defense industry to avoid dependence on foreign arms suppliers.[79]

North Korea has attempted to put this into practice.[80] The Korean People’s Army is one of the largest on earth. It is currently developing its own nuclear ballistic missile.[81][82] North Korea’s propaganda since the Korean War has contrasted its military autonomy with the presence of US forces in the South.[68]

en.wikipedia.org

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:32:35am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. North Korea’s gone and done it again. They responded to Trump’s threats of fire and fury, and initiated another nuclear test that might rise to the level of a thermonuclear weapon (2 stage). If those staged photos are even remotely accurate, the North Koreans have been busy miniaturizing their nuclear devices significantly. It’s also important to note that US and other nuclear weapons states (and their experts) could glean quite a bit from the shape and size of the devices to indicate potential capabilities.

Trump’s busy chastizing South Korea for thinking of talking to North Korea (calling it appeasement), and yet what is Trump going to do other than attempt diplomacy? Yeah, he’s probably going to the United Nations and doing all the things he’s previously complained as being awful.

Meanwhile, Trump’s trip to Texas proved once again that he’s without a shred of empathy and his brain simply doesn’t allow him to interact and comprehend basic events like a normal person.

Not a bit of Trump’s trip was surprising. He’s on take 2 of 2 on trying to appear empathetic, and he still failed basic competency. Media outlets still keep grading him on a curve for the things that they would absolutely destroy any prior president over.

It’s absolutely infuriating that they’re giving him so much wiggle room, when they gave none to so many of Trump’s predecessors. In fact, they gave none to Clinton during the campaign and savaged her for so much less.

They savaged her for going to campaign events and to the 9/11 memorial while suffering from pneumonia. She was busy doing her job, and they complained. Trump can’t even go a day without saying something absolutely awful and gets a pass.

Every town for 100 miles has suffered significant to catastrophic damage, and Trump barely can get through a trip to a shelter without tripping up on something basic.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:33:36am

re: #168 Decatur Deb

I’ve read “On the Juche Idea”. It’s not some enlightening tome or anything, but it did give me a better understanding of the philosophical underpinnings of the North Korean regime.

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:34:51am
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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:42:31am

re: #171 lawhawk

Don’t tease Donald. He acts out when he’s frustrated.

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:49:26am

UPDATE:
On cue, we have proof most Americans have no idea where North Korea is located

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:53:42am

re: #173 lawhawk

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Not a North Korea expert, but I stayed overnight in a fleabag in Tongducheon.

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:54:27am

re: #166 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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I understand this and yet taxing my little church would destroy us. How do we determine the difference at the IRS level between Joel Osteen and Fr. Art Hancock?

We have a budget of $60,000 a year all of which comes from the parishioners. We pay a part time (60%) priest, repairs when needed to our 100+ year old church, heat & electric and the like - and yet we still give away 20% of our budget annually in charity outreach. It isn’t much but our 50 or so households do more this way together than we could do separately.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2017 • 5:58:39am

re: #175 William Lewis

I understand this and yet taxing my little church would destroy us. How do we determine the difference at the IRS level between Joel Osteen and Fr. Art Hancock?

We have a budget of $60,000 a year all of which comes from the parishioners. We pay a part time (60%) priest, repairs when needed to our 100+ year old church, heat & electric and the like - and yet we still give away 20% of our budget annually in charity outreach. It isn’t much but our 50 or so households do more this way together than we could do separately.

Then churches like yours have a greater interest in finding the border between you and the pimps. If you leave it to the Freethinking Persuasion, you risk being swept out with the trash.

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freetoken  Sep 3, 2017 • 6:03:27am

re: #176 Decatur Deb

It shouldn’t be too hard to make a tax code where income below a certain amount is not taxed. We do that today with individual income.

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2017 • 6:05:24am

re: #176 Decatur Deb

Then churches like yours have a greater interest in finding the border between you and the pimps. If you leave it to the Freethinking Persuasion, you risk being swept out with the trash.

We work hard at being what we’re supposed to be. Should we be making a pulpit pimps noise about that in the press? Or instead not waste that money that can to buying toiletries and women’s sanitary products for the local food pantries? They can give them away to people in need but the money they get has to go to food, so we give non-food items that people need. I know I’d rather do that than worry much about getting in the newspaper or on the TV. Back in the bad old days, a woman was supposed to be in the paper only three times - birth, marriage & death. Seems like three times for a church/priest would be about right whether us or a megachurch.

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2017 • 6:06:32am

Anyway, off to go to that little pine chapel to try to stay true to Matthew 25 & James 2.

Later.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 3, 2017 • 6:09:31am

re: #173 lawhawk

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There seems to be a cluster of NK sightings in the northern Philippines, and another in northern Australia. In a possible senior moment, I was wondering why the northern regions of these countries were selected so often. Then I realized, of course, that at least some of these idiocrats are aware that “north” is toward the top of the map. Several seem to have placed the DPRK in the middle of the Indian Ocean, one near the Maldives and the other near no place in particular. I wonder what that is about?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2017 • 6:24:27am

So Trump is not only alienating SK by threatening to back out of the trade deal but attacking them as appeasers on Twitter. Fuck this guy. This is the time where they need our friendship the most not some pathetic babbling from a guy who doesn’t know the first thing about the Korean Peninsula.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 3, 2017 • 6:38:05am
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BigPapa  Sep 3, 2017 • 6:55:40am

Trump plumbs new depths of awkwardness and revulsion. Signing a wall in a hurricane shelter is just freaking weird.

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BigPapa  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:00:35am

NK sets off a nuke test, super large. Trump criticizes SK as appeasers which is nonsensical, sorta gives China a pass. WTF?

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:03:31am

bnm,.
re: #184 BigPapa

NK sets off a nuke test, super large. Trump criticizes SK as appeasers which is nonsensical, sorta gives China a pass. WTF?

China makes his and Ivanka’s clothing lines. See, if their overpriced mediocre-quality crap were manufactured in South Korea, he’d no doubt take great interest in that country’s fate.

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BigPapa  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:06:59am

Walter Becker has left us. This is my favorite Steely Dan song.

Steely Dan - Do It Again (The Midnight Special 1972)

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:12:46am

A rainy day here today. Got some Charlie Parker going on the turntable. Good times.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:17:25am

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹

Actually, it’s on the edge of the hotspot, not in the middle of it. I didn’t read the map very well. (The centre of the Yellowstone Hotspot is Yellowstone Caldera, hence its name, in NW Wyoming.)

Make that forty feet of ash then. That’s a whole lot closer to me. Need a good SW to S wind to blow the ash plume away from me.

Gee, thanks. Send it all to where I live. ///

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:17:46am
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:22:07am

re: #189 lawhawk

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Too long and too many big words.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:24:23am

re: #189 lawhawk

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Deep state.//

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BigPapa  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:28:18am

Barack Obama was the real deal. That letter shows his character and moral compass.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:28:30am

So this fucker has gone on full “White Genocide”
Never go full “White Genocide”

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Timothy Watson  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:29:53am

re: #193 The Vicious Babushka

So this fucker has gone on full “White Genocide”
Never go full “White Genocide”

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Will those a-hole far lefters continue to support that asshole now?

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:35:06am

re: #193 The Vicious Babushka

So this fucker has gone on full “White Genocide”
Never go full “White Genocide”

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Do Japan and South Korea get honorary “white genocide” status? Same thing happening in those countries. Education—freedom from poverty—-lower birth rates—reduces unsustainable population growth across the world.

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:37:45am

re: #195 Barefoot Grin

Do Japan and South Korea get honorary “white genocide” status? Same thing happening in those countries. Education—freedom from poverty—-lower birth rates—reduces unsustainable population growth across the world.

Don’t forget the twin forces of medicine and automation, the former of which has reduced death rates such that families don’t need litters in order to ensure the bloodline continues, while the latter means the need for large workforces is quickly ebbing away.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:37:49am

re: #193 The Vicious Babushka

So this fucker has gone on full “White Genocide”
Never go full “White Genocide”

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Not even hiding what he’s all about.

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nowherenorth2  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:40:11am

re: #197 HappyWarrior

Dude totally shows his allegiance. Probably saw the arpaio pardon and wants to hitch his wagon to that in hopes of the pardon.

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dangerman  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:40:23am

re: #186 BigPapa

Walter Becker has left us. This is my favorite Steely Dan song.

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That effin sux.

(His leaving. Not the song)

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nowherenorth2  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:41:48am

re: #197 HappyWarrior

And hopes to get out of an embassy anf walk around free.

Sad about Becker as steely Dan is awesome. I have gotten more into them with age and love it.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:42:11am

re: #198 nowherenorth2

Dude totally shows his allegiance. Probably saw the arpaio pardon and wants to hitch his wagon to that in hopes of the pardon.

Just curious - would Trump have the power to pardon someone who’s not an American citizen?

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nowherenorth2  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:43:46am

re: #201 Dr Lizardo

Good point. Wants freedom. Wants to not be extradited.

Drank alittle last night. Paying for it this morning. Sorry buddy. My bad

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:43:56am
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Timothy Watson  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:43:57am

re: #201 Dr Lizardo

Just curious - would Trump have the power to pardon someone who’s not an American citizen?

Yes, he “shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment”

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:44:44am

re: #204 Timothy Watson

Yes, he “shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment”

Plus having the power to order any agencies which may be considering charges against Assange to circular-file them.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:45:07am

Look at my fucking “14th District Democratic Ghetto”

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dangerman  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:45:50am

re: #175 William Lewis

I understand this and yet taxing my little church would destroy us. How do we determine the difference at the IRS level between Joel Osteen and Fr. Art Hancock?

We have a budget of $60,000 a year all of which comes from the parishioners. We pay a part time (60%) priest, repairs when needed to our 100+ year old church, heat & electric and the like - and yet we still give away 20% of our budget annually in charity outreach. It isn’t much but our 50 or so households do more this way together than we could do separately.

Your “net income” would likely be far below any codified reasonable definition.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:46:37am

re: #204 Timothy Watson

Yes, he “shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment”

Ah, OK. I’d assumed that power only extended to American citizens.

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nowherenorth2  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:51:21am

re: #208 Dr Lizardo

Because of you amazng people I learn more every day.

Thank you

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:54:22am

re: #153 jeffreyw

I hope you’re not planning on eating that. //

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darthstar  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:55:09am
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darthstar  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:56:16am

I love it when the people who put Trump in office send gentle reminders they can take him out.

We’ll know Trump’s in trouble when the bots turn against him.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:00:27am

re: #211 darthstar

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LOL so the Russian MFA is now issuing thinly-veiled threats against Trump.

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BigPapa  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:01:10am

Seth Abramson is dealing some Twitter threadage on the Trump-Miller letter.

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:02:48am

The one thing we can count on from Kim in North Korea is that any war would end his leading of the country. He will push as hard as he can, until the right kind of pushback occurs. Offering him concessions would only embolden him, so, I hate to say it starving his country is about the only leverage we have.

Trump is not the person to lead this type of action. We will cede this to the Chinese, even if all we are ceding is getting other countries to do what is necessary.

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darthstar  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:03:15am

First Sandra Bullock, now Harding.

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mmmirele  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:05:11am

re: #157 Anymouse 🌹

Imma just gonna say that it shouldn’t be “Ms. Kendzior” and “Dr. Nilsson-Wright.” Sarah Kendzior holds a Ph.D in anthropology from Washington University. Personally, I’m of the opinion that non-medical doctorates should not be called “doctor”, but if they were going to use “Dr” for Nilsson-Wright, then “Dr” should have been used for Kendzior.

Sorry, this is one of my pet peeves.

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darthstar  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:06:44am

Soft landing…

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:07:17am

re: #217 mmmirele

Imma just gonna say that it shouldn’t be “Ms. Kendzior” and “Dr. Nilsson-Wright.” Sarah Kendzior holds a Ph.D in anthropology from Washington University. Personally, I’m of the opinion that non-medical doctorates should not be called “doctor”, but if they were going to use “Dr” for Nilsson-Wright, then “Dr” should have been used for Kendzior.

Sorry, this is one of my pet peeves.

I think all physicians should be called Physician so-and-so rather than doctor, since they took the term from the education field.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:10:27am

re: #217 mmmirele

Imma just gonna say that it shouldn’t be “Ms. Kendzior” and “Dr. Nilsson-Wright.” Sarah Kendzior holds a Ph.D in anthropology from Washington University. Personally, I’m of the opinion that non-medical doctorates should not be called “doctor”, but if they were going to use “Dr” for Nilsson-Wright, then “Dr” should have been used for Kendzior.

Sorry, this is one of my pet peeves.

I’ve always referred to anyone with a non-honorary Ph.D as “doctor”. But that’s just me I guess.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:12:15am

“Shut the fuck up, Donny. You’re out of your element.”

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nowherenorth2  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:13:48am

re: #221 Dr Lizardo

Bahaha nice

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:15:38am
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Woods Witch  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:17:12am

re: #217 mmmirele

Imma just gonna say that it shouldn’t be “Ms. Kendzior” and “Dr. Nilsson-Wright.” Sarah Kendzior holds a Ph.D in anthropology from Washington University. Personally, I’m of the opinion that non-medical doctorates should not be called “doctor”, but if they were going to use “Dr” for Nilsson-Wright, then “Dr” should have been used for Kendzior.

Sorry, this is one of my pet peeves.

I’ll give Anymouse a pass as he was using the names as stated in the article cited. However, the authors should have known better. What I’m unsure of is the driving force behind the error. What is because of the non-medical doctorate, or that she is a woman? I have Ph.D and teach at a university. I get called Miss or Mrs. all the time. I’ve never heard a male colleague addressed as Mr.

And, yes, it’s a pet peeve of mine too.

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nowherenorth2  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:17:39am

re: #223 Dr Lizardo

My day is complete!

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BigPapa  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:19:30am

re: #224 Woods Witch

I’ll give Anymouse a pass as he was using the names as stated in the article cited. However, the authors should have known better. What I’m unsure of is the driving force behind the error. What is because of the non-medical doctorate, or that she is a woman? I have Ph.D and teach at a university. I get called Miss or Mrs. all the time. I’ve never heard a male colleague addressed as Mr.

The safe bet is assuming the obvious.

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:20:44am

re: #214 BigPapa

Seth Abramson is dealing some Twitter threadage on the Trump-Miller letter.
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I would not be surprised if the GOP tries to swing a deal at this rate: “We’ll impeach Trump, but charges against Mike disappear.”

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:21:03am

Good Morning. Lots and lots of ash all over here at the 3 Lizard lair. The biggest fire in LA City history is danger close to many out on the East Valley. Because the fire went right at Burbank, the visibility of it and the aerial attack is pretty amazing to see. Very urban wildfire fight. One helicopter had to land due to some mechanical issue. These often old choppers are being run hard all day long in the heat.

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Woods Witch  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:21:14am

re: #226 BigPapa

The safe bet is assuming the obvious.

My first instinct as well

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:22:35am

re: #227 Targetpractice

I would not be surprised if the GOP tries to swing a deal at this rate: “We’ll impeach Trump, but charges against Mike disappear.”

Pence would pretty much be a lame-duck POTUS from the moment he takes the Oath of Office.

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:24:19am

re: #230 Dr Lizardo

Pence would pretty much be a lame-duck POTUS from the moment he takes the Oath of Office.

Considering the amendment that came up the other day, the GOP seem to think the ideal way to go forward is try to kneecap the investigation.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:25:29am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:26:38am

re: #232 The Vicious Babushka

He just can’t let that long-ago jibe go, can he?

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:27:48am

re: #232 The Vicious Babushka

This is apparently his first encounter ever with a latex glove.

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BigPapa  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:28:04am

re: #233 Dr Lizardo

He just can’t let that long-ago jibe go, can he?

Of course he can’t let it go. His hands are too big to let go.

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:28:42am

re: #233 Dr Lizardo

He just can’t let that long-ago jibe go, can he?

Trump simply cannot allow a slight to his ego ever go. Hence his entire presidential campaign.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:28:52am
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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:29:32am

re: #237 jaunte

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I pray that egotistical fuck is out of office by Christmas!

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mmmirele  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:29:44am

re: #220 Dr Lizardo

I’ve always referred to anyone with a non-honorary Ph.D as “doctor”. But that’s just me I guess.

I picked it up from an ex-boyfriend who also has a Ph.D in anthropology. He’s OK with being called Professor (that’s his work title) or by his first name.

I’m not big on titles*, but when presented with honorifics, I select Miss. I understand Ms. came about because of the discrimination against women based on marital status, but I want people to understand that yes, I’m in my later 50s and no, I am not married. I got called Mrs. Holmes so many times when I lived in Utah it drove me crazy.

ETA: I did get unhappy with a new manager several years who insisted on calling us “root cause specialists.” I noted that when I was at the help desk, we were called specialists, and it’s a lower title with a lower pay rate. I worked hard to get the promotion to analyst and could she please call us “root cause analysts”?

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darthstar  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:29:46am

re: #237 jaunte

Prayer doesn’t work. He’s still President.

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Kilroy was here  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:31:10am

re: #235 BigPapa

Of course he can’t let it go. His hands are too big to let go.

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:32:34am

Look at Trump’s presidency, everything he has done since taking the oath has been aimed towards proving he’s “better” than Obama, for no other reason than a far better president had the nerve to poke fun at him. The fact that Obama was also the first black president only furthered the injury to Donny’s ego.

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Woods Witch  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:33:13am

re: #239 mmmirele

I only get prickly about it at work or in any other professional setting. Of campus, people can call me whatever they like.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:33:30am

re: #234 jaunte

This is apparently his first encounter ever with a latex glove.

Also notice that he yells “My hands are too big!” over at the press and not at the person handing out the gloves.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:33:54am

re: #194 Timothy Watson

Will those a-hole far lefters continue to support that asshole now?

I suspect they are fellow travelers, but less open about their racist views.

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Woods Witch  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:37:16am

re: #244 The Vicious Babushka

Also notice that he yells “My hands are too big!” over at the press and not at the person handing out the gloves.

Also noticed that when you can see one of his hands the glove fits as well as can be expected.

(As an undergrad I worked food service in the college dorm. Those gloves come “one size, fits no one”)

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Amory Blaine  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:39:55am

re: #232 The Vicious Babushka

If he wasn’t such a fucking dick, it would actually be pretty funny. But he is, so it’s not.

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Woods Witch  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:43:36am

re: #242 Targetpractice

Look at Trump’s presidency, everything he has done since taking the oath has been aimed towards proving he’s “better” than Obama, for no other reason than a far better president had the nerve to poke fun at him. The fact that Obama was also the first black president only furthered the injury to Donny’s ego.

The irony is the harder he tries to outdo his predecessor the more he fails. It would funny if all of our lives weren’t at stake.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:45:07am

re: #248 Woods Witch

The irony is the harder he tries to outdo his predecessor the more he fails. It would funny if all of our lives weren’t at stake.

He’s also trying to outdo Hillary Clinton, and failing every step of the way. She and Obama live in Trump’s head.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:47:39am

So, a good review of the new George Clooney-directed film Suburbicon (written by the Coen Brothers): independent.co.uk

Sounds promising - another one to check out on its release here.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:50:28am

OF COURSE TRUMPORRHOIDS FELL FOR THIS FAKEITY FAKE BULLSHIT

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:54:13am

A pretty good analysis of the latest brouhaha with North Korea:

Donald Trump responded to North Korea’s sixth nuclear test by turning on one of Washington’s closest allies in the region, South Korea, blaming it on Seoul’s policy of “appeasement”.

Pyongyang’s rhetoric and actions leading up to the test have been aimed at the US, however, and detonation of the most powerful nuclear device the regime has built so far reflects the failure of any remaining hope Trump might have had that his own bellicose rhetoric would work as a deterrent.

Since the US president’s warning that “fire and fury” would befall North Korea if it continued to threaten the US, Kim Jong-un has unveiled a detailed plan to fire a salvo of missile at the US Pacific of Guam, conducted its most provocative ballistic missile test to date, flying it over Japan territory, and carried out its most ambitious nuclear test, of what it claims is a thermonuclear device. Initial estimates suggest it may have been a two-stage bomb perhaps ten times more powerful than the biggest of the earlier tests
Trump’s response in a series of Sunday morning tweets was to lash out at China, saying North Korea had become a “great threat and embarrassment” to Beijing, but more strikingly at the South Korean government of Moon Jae-in.

“South Korea is finding, as I have told them, that their talk of appeasement with North Korea will not work, they only understand one thing!” Trump tweeted.

Moon, who was elected in May, has cautioned against threatening a pre-emptive attack against North Korea and insisted that South Korea, which would almost certainly bear the brunt of a response, would have to be consulted before major military action.

Former US officials and Korea experts said that one of the main aims of Pyongyang’s strategy is to drive a wedge between South Korea and its US protector. The principal strategic goal of developing intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), two of which were tested in July, is to hold at risk the US mainland and therefore put in doubt a US response to any North Korean attack on the south.

By distancing Washington from Seoul, they said, Trump was behaving as Kim Jong-un wanted. He had warned South Korea it would have to pay for using a US missile defence system (THAAD) and on the eve of the nuclear test, he was reported by the Washington Post to have been on the point of withdrawing from a five year old free trade agreement with Seoul.

theguardian.com

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:57:02am
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jaunte  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:57:20am

Policy By Impulse

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sagehen  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:58:21am

re: #249 wheat-dogg

He’s also trying to outdo Hillary Clinton, and failing every step of the way. She and Obama live in Trump’s head.

He Can’t Even Fake It
talkingpointsmemo.com

There is, of course, a word for people who have an extreme inability to feel empathy: sociopath. It can also be certain diagnoses of what is called ‘malignant narcissism.’ But even that isn’t quite what gets my attention. Because many sociopaths are actually quite adept at demonstrations of empathy. They don’t feel it. But they can mimic the behavior. That’s what gets me. Trump can’t even pretend. Even your garden variety jerk politician can put on a show of hugs and supportive words. Trump can’t.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:58:44am

re: #251 The Vicious Babushka

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 8:59:14am

re: #253 jaunte

“We’ll see” is Trumpese for “I have no fucking idea what I’m doing”.

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sagehen  Sep 3, 2017 • 9:03:16am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2017 • 9:06:03am
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jaunte  Sep 3, 2017 • 9:07:17am
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stpaulbear  Sep 3, 2017 • 9:08:32am

re: #258 sagehen

Will hug for food.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 3, 2017 • 9:11:01am

re: #176 Decatur Deb

Then churches like yours have a greater interest in finding the border between you and the pimps. If you leave it to the Freethinking Persuasion, you risk being swept out with the trash.

Precisely. If the Pulpit Pimps want to play the politics game, they have to pony up and pay! It’s time to take them off of their tax-free lifestyle.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2017 • 9:18:02am

Oh, like China where you make all your stupid MAGA swag?

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2017 • 9:27:24am

Trump’s making all this diplomatic noise because he knows he has no military option available. There is no option on the table that won’t lead to millions of deaths in Seoul, deaths that will be used to crucify him and any Republican seen as supportive of military action on the North. Problem is that Beijing and Seoul both have every reason to keep Lil’ Kim in office, as they have no desire whatsoever to absorb the millions of North Koreans who will flee once the Kim dynasty collapses.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2017 • 9:33:04am

The problem with choosing belief over knowledge is that it leads you to say things and do things based on a total misapprehension of reality. The US has the LEAST economic mobility of all the major industrialized nations. That means that more than any other country like us, the circumstances of your birth determine the circumstances of your life.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2017 • 9:35:19am

re: #263 The Vicious Babushka

Oh, like China where you make all your stupid MAGA swag?

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So, who suffers if we stop trade with China?

Farmers. Coal miners. Autoworkers.

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2017 • 9:37:43am

re: #265 Blind Frog Belly White

The problem with choosing belief over knowledge is that it leads you to say things and do things based on a total misapprehension of reality. The US has the LEAST economic mobility of all the major industrialized nations. That means that more than any other country like us, the circumstances of your birth determine the circumstances of your life.

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They’re words spoken by a man who has never known a day of hardship in his life. His father’s death not only provided for his family, but also gave him a ticket to college. And with the exception of a short stint as a sales consultant for a company his family owns, he’s been in politics ever since. And yet he spent the last 8 years insulting a man who rose from much humbler roots to attain the presidency.

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makeitstop  Sep 3, 2017 • 9:39:17am

So North Korea tested a big nuke and Walter Becker passed away?

Maybe I’ll just go back to bed…

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freetoken  Sep 3, 2017 • 9:40:56am

Smell the rain… but it’s not here yet. Soon hopefully. It was and muggy all night but the clouds from Lidia finally arrived. If we’re lucky we’ll get some good downpours, and in the hills too. They really need to be wet to keep down the usual fall fires.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2017 • 9:44:52am

re: #267 Targetpractice

They’re words spoken by a man who has never known a day of hardship in his life. His father’s death not only provided for his family, but also gave him a ticket to college. And with the exception of a short stint as a sales consultant for a company his family owns, he’s been in politics ever since. And yet he spent the last 8 years insulting a man who rose from much humbler roots to attain the presidency.

His family lived on survivor benefits, and helped pay his way through college, where he apparently dedicated himself to ensuring that nobody else would ever suffer the indignity of getting help from society.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 3, 2017 • 9:47:53am

re: #264 Targetpractice

Same number of options as when / if he actually attacks us or an ally in the region. Except suddenly then the unthinkable becomes the urgently required.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2017 • 9:50:19am

re: #270 Blind Frog Belly White

Sort of like Greg Abbott making sure no one else could become a millionaire by suing the property owner after a tree falls on them.

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JordanRules  Sep 3, 2017 • 9:50:38am
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Semper Fi  Sep 3, 2017 • 9:51:39am

re: #184 BigPapa

NK sets off a nuke test, super large. Trump criticizes SK as appeasers which is nonsensical, sorta gives China a pass. WTF?

I wonder, does Trump know where North Korea is??

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 3, 2017 • 9:53:12am
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Belafon  Sep 3, 2017 • 9:54:10am

re: #251 The Vicious Babushka

Satire is Tina Fey eating cake.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2017 • 9:54:56am

I worry that all it would take is one fucking idiot to plant the idea in Trumps head that nuking NK would help make the Russia investigation go away and then….BOOM.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2017 • 9:57:26am

re: #269 freetoken

Smell the rain… but it’s not here yet. Soon hopefully. It was and muggy all night but the clouds from Lidia finally arrived. If we’re lucky we’ll get some good downpours, and in the hills too. They really need to be wet to keep down the usual fall fires.

Lordy, I sure hope klys and Mr. klys made it through the heat in Pleasanton yesterday. Crikeys!! And in wool!

I’d say ‘it barely cooled down last night’, but who am I kidding? The overnight low was 35 degrees cooler!

The last two days, The Boys, the dogs, and I* hunkered down in the house, which I shut up at first light after having open all night to cool. The Older Boy had to work, but now that he’s Meat Boy, he gets to work in the coldest part of the store!

By 7 PM, it had cooled down to 95 out, and warmed up to about the same indoors. So, every window open all the fans blowing. An hour later, it was cooler outside than in. It was almost pleasant!

Then I went to pick The Older Boy up from work, and made the mistake of running the AC in the car. Got home, and the 85 degrees that had felt so blessedly cool was oppressive again!

*Where, in all this narrative, is Mrs. FBW, you may ask? She and her ‘Wild Women’ buds were over in Half Moon Bay, an impromptu Wild Women Weekend for one of them whose dog had to be put to sleep. So, while we were suffering 106 degree temps two days running, I believe the temp there briefly almost reached 90. She’d said she would probably come back on Saturday. Nope. Not that I blame her. I wish I had as good an excuse!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2017 • 9:58:12am

re: #275 FormerDirtDart

“Thank you”? WTF?

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2017 • 9:59:56am

re: #271 Unshaken Defiance

Same number of options as when / if he actually attacks us or an ally in the region. Except suddenly then the unthinkable becomes the urgently required.

Our military options remain nil until Kim takes the step of doing more than rattling the saber. Beijing’s already put Trump on notice that they will fight in NK’s defense if we take the first shot.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:00:31am

re: #278 Blind Frog Belly White

Lordy, I sure hope klys and Mr. klys made it through the heat in Pleasanton yesterday. Crikeys!! And in wool!

I’d say ‘it barely cooled down last night’, but who am I kidding? The overnight low was 35 degrees cooler!

The last two days, The Boys, the dogs, and I* hunkered down in the house, which I shut up at first light after having open all night to cool. The Older Boy had to work, but now that he’s Meat Boy, he gets to work in the coldest part of the store!

By 7 PM, it had cooled down to 95 out, and warmed up to about the same indoors. So, every window open all the fans blowing. An hour later, it was cooler outside than in. It was almost pleasant!

Then I went to pick The Older Boy up from work, and made the mistake of running the AC in the car. Got home, and the 85 degrees that had felt so blessedly cool was oppressive again!

*Where, in all this narrative, is Mrs. FBW, you may ask? She and her ‘Wild Women’ buds were over in Half Moon Bay, an impromptu Wild Women Weekend for one of them whose dog had to be put to sleep. So, while we were suffering 106 degree temps two days running, I believe the temp there briefly almost reached 90. She’d said she would probably come back on Saturday. Nope. Not that I blame her. I wish I had as good an excuse!

Today’s high predicted for Southrun-by-god Alabama is almost 20 degrees lower than SF.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:01:11am

re: #279 Blind Frog Belly White

I guess we should be glad he doesn’t say “sincerely yours”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:04:11am

re: #282 jaunte

I guess we should be glad he doesn’t say “sincerely yours”

It’s like he can’t leave it at the status report because he’s not at 140 characters yet.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:04:15am

Personally I hope the thought of permanently fucking up all his business interests in Asia would keep Trumps finger off the button but dude is so unpredictable…

And who knows what Putin wants to get from all of this?

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makeitstop  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:05:31am

re: #279 Blind Frog Belly White

“Thank you”? WTF?

I’m noticing he does that a lot now, even when he answers questions in press conferences (the Finland one this week especially).

I think it’s his idiotic stab at behaving with more ‘humility.’ Josh Marshall is right - he simply does not even know how to fake it.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:08:37am

re: #280 Targetpractice

Our military options remain nil until Kim takes the step of doing more than rattling the saber. Beijing’s already put Trump on notice that they will fight in NK’s defense if we take the first shot.

Which brings us to the crux. China is as responsible for this as Kim.

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makeitstop  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:10:14am

This may end up being a new Twitter follow for me…

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freetoken  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:11:24am

re: #275 FormerDirtDart

Trump really is incapable of doing his job.

If we as a nation weren’t so large, rich, and have institutions that are used to continuing on with their own momentum, we’d be in a middle of a full meltdown in governance.

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JordanRules  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:11:54am

re: #277 Eclectic Cyborg

Me too. It’s not just North Korea or just Team Mueller it’s the combined dynamic that is so dangerous to me.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:15:05am
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jaunte  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:16:04am
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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:16:25am

re: #265 Blind Frog Belly White

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:16:52am

Oh, the other thing about the heat? Every morning when I wake up the house, even with the windows all open all night, and fans blowing all night, is warmer than it was the morning before.

Friday morning, it was 72 degrees.

Yesterday, it was 76 degrees.

This morning, it was 79 degrees.

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Skip Intro  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:17:06am

re: #244 The Vicious Babushka

Also notice that he yells “My hands are too big!” over at the press and not at the person handing out the gloves.

Trump’s real hand. Baby carrots on right.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:18:35am

re: #294 Skip Intro

Kzanol the Thrint.

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:21:00am

re: #286 Unshaken Defiance

Which brings us to the crux. China is as responsible for this as Kim.

Thing is, what has North Korea really done that warrants more than a stern talking to? The shot over Japanese airspace? Yeah, that’s worth a little more, but nobody was killed or injured.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:23:02am

re: #269 freetoken

Smell the rain… but it’s not here yet. Soon hopefully. It was and muggy all night but the clouds from Lidia finally arrived. If we’re lucky we’ll get some good downpours, and in the hills too. They really need to be wet to keep down the usual fall fires.

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JordanRules  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:23:03am

Ha!!!!

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:29:24am

Photo of swimming cat from space:

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ObserverArt  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:30:12am

re: #246 Woods Witch

Also noticed that when you can see one of his hands the glove fits as well as can be expected.

(As an undergrad I worked food service in the college dorm. Those gloves come “one size, fits no one”)

I use a lot of wood repair epoxy on some of my old house rehab project. So, I buy the blue nitrile gloves for mixing it (it’s like playdoh). Also wear them sometimes as an extra liner in bigger gloves with any questionable chemical.

If your hand is a bit sweaty/damp getting them on can be a pain. Then sometimes as you struggle and you go to pull down the bottom part, they split.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:33:09am

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Semper Fi  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:34:34am

re: #280 Targetpractice

Our military options remain nil until Kim takes the step of doing more than rattling the saber. Beijing’s already put Trump on notice that they will fight in NK’s defense if we take the first shot.

I suppose there is a good reason we (US & Japan) don’t practice our so-called missile defense on NK shots that will obviously leave their territorial waters. Maybe its because falling debris will pose a danger to inhabited areas. Their missiles coupled with their ongoing threats should be license enough to cause routine defense action by US & Japan.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:35:53am

re: #300 ObserverArt

I blow into my gloves to take them on and off. It really helps as I’m clammy all the time.

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JordanRules  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:36:03am
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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:40:26am

re: #304 JordanRules

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I don’t buy for a second that they only found out after the video was made public that one of their reserve officers had been the subject of an incident of a cop severely overstepping his lawful boundaries. They knew and kept it quiet because they didn’t want to step on the toes of fellow cops.

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ObserverArt  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:41:09am

re: #264 Targetpractice

Trump’s making all this diplomatic noise because he knows he has no military option available. There is no option on the table that won’t lead to millions of deaths in Seoul, deaths that will be used to crucify him and any Republican seen as supportive of military action on the North. Problem is that Beijing and Seoul both have every reason to keep Lil’ Kim in office, as they have no desire whatsoever to absorb the millions of North Koreans who will flee once the Kim dynasty collapses.

And all the other crap he’s doing is going to hurt us more than any of the country’s he’s trying to bully.

Do people remember that Trump used to be the big bully all they way up until many caught on and wouldn’t deal with him any more. It’s one reason he went bankrupt a few times. Then all he could do is sell his name and play a big businessman on TV. He yelled too loudly too long, people stopped listening.

I suggest the foreign countries on the other end of Trump dealing know him better than many Americans…like some of our media.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:42:16am

re: #301 Amory Blaine

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ObserverArt  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:44:03am

re: #274 Semper Fi

I wonder, does Trump know where North Korea is??

Sure. On his shit on list.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:44:48am
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FormerDirtDart  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:46:21am
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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:50:24am

re: #302 Semper Fi

I suspect a lot of the high arc and foreshortened range of the ICBM tests keeps them out of the engagement envelope. THAAD and AEGIS are end course weapons developing into mid course weapons. But of course that sort of thing would be classified. I doubt we have anything that can hit those rockets on the way up as they are launched from well inland.

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darthstar  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:52:13am

re: #213 Dr Lizardo

LOL so the Russian MFA is now issuing thinly-veiled threats against Trump.

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BeachDem  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:53:08am

re: #275 FormerDirtDart

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And who is he thanking?

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Semper Fi  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:55:10am

re: #311 Unshaken Defiance

I suspect a lot of the high arc and foreshortened range of the ICBM tests keeps them out of the engagement envelope. THAAD and AEGIS are end course weapons developing into mid course weapons. But of course that sort of thing would be classified. I doubt we have anything that can hit those rockets on the way up as they are launched from well inland.

Yes, that makes sense as they would be ‘on the way up’ and probably difficult to plot a course at that point. Thanks.

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ObserverArt  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:56:05am

re: #309 The Vicious Babushka

Vicious Babushka @viciousbabushka
So you admit it’s just play-acting, he really doesn’t give a shit about any of these poor homeless people, it’s just a photo op.


1:43 PM - Sep 3, 2017

Well, they are just play-acting news people on TV. So…everyone is in their roles. And no reality to any of it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:59:07am
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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2017 • 10:59:07am

There’s this thing know as the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty. There’s a CTBTO, which is the organization that was created to support the CTBT.

Would it surprise anyone that Trump and the GOP want to cut funding to this organization that helps identify when countries like North Korea test nuclear devices and otherwise try to go nuclear?

Yeah, they are - and yes they have:

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JordanRules  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:01:23am

Captured audience!

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Kragar  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:02:52am
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sagehen  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:04:08am

re: #316 The Vicious Babushka

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Not just “gave nothing”, it was even worse than that.

Bragged about how he now had the tallest building in lower Manhattan, then put in for disaster funds because it was near enough to qualify.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:07:10am

re: #318 JordanRules

Captured audience!

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Contrast this with my church service this morning, where my pastor preached on racism (yes, really!) and informed us that our denomination had officially activated their outreach ministry to serve in Texas. Not taking FROM the poor and destitute, but giving TO them. Joel Osteen could learn a thing or two from sitting in our small-town services for a few weeks.

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Kragar  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:09:03am
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:09:16am

naturally millions of trump supporters are puzzled that trump hasn’t already taken care of the n korean problem by nuking the joint

see, you just atom bomb the shit out of the place, yanno kill all the army and destroy their weapons, make the whole country a glow-in-the-dark graveyard, problem solved

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:13:06am

re: #321 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Contrast this with my church service this morning, where my pastor preached on racism (yes, really!) and informed us that our denomination had officially activated their outreach ministry to serve in Texas. Not taking FROM the poor and destitute, but giving TO them. Joel Osteen could learn a thing or two from sitting in our small-town services for a few weeks.

We had a guest preacher today - he’s a baby priest (ordained about 9 months ago) and his family is in our congregation. He too preached on racism how it related to both being peaceful to all (the Romans readIng) and taking up your cross (Matthew). Did decent for a newbie. We’ve connected with a parish in Houston that someone from our parish is now in and we’re helping through them.
ETA: today was our monthly collection for the food pantry too. We took in almost $150 last month.

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jeffreyw  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:14:37am

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stuffed mini peppers

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Teukka  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:15:10am

re: #324 William Lewis

We had a guest preacher today - he’s a baby priest (ordained about 9 months ago) and his family is in our congregation. He too preached on racism how it related to both being peaceful to all (the Romans readIng) and taking up your cross (Matthew). Did decent for a newbie. We’ve connected with a parish in Houston that someone from our parish is now in and we’re helping through them.

All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. Acts 2:44-45

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Teukka  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:16:38am

re: #326 Teukka

All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. Acts 2:44-45

Take a wild guess where “From each one according to ability, to each one according to need” came from.
*mic drop*

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:17:56am

re: #326 Teukka

All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. Acts 2:44-45

That’s part of one of the passages my pastor preached on this morning.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:18:00am

The EPA is now officially the Covering Scott Pruitt’s Ass Agency.

“The Hill reports EPA finds 13 Superfund sites possibly damaged after Harvey. “The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) said Saturday that 13 Superfund sites have been flooded or could be facing damage as a result of Hurricane Harvey. The agency said that two of the sites, which are areas that are polluted with hazardous material and require extensive cleanup, had been inspected and do not require immediate cleanup. Eleven sites have proven to be inaccessible for response teams, however the agency said teams are in place to inspect the areas once flooding from the storm subsides. In total, the EPA said that it had conducted initial assessments at 41 Superfund sites in impacted areas using ‘aerial images’ and contact with with those responsible for regular cleanup activities.”

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Teukka  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:18:49am

re: #328 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That’s part of one of the passages my pastor preached on this morning.

Testify! \o/

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retired cynic  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:18:53am

re: #316 The Vicious Babushka

Wasn’t it worse, and he scammed relief efforts by claiming he had much more damage that he did?

ETA: Sagehen beat me! (#320)

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:19:07am

Capitalism+atheism+feminism = sterility = migration. EU birthrate = 1.6. Replacement = 2.1. Merkel, May, Macron, Gentiloni Assange, dot Com, Manning, Snowden all childless.

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:19:08am

re: #326 Teukka

Yes, and see the Didache en.wikipedia.org for another early community’s way of living.

It would be interesting to see how the west would have developed had that stayed the standard but once it became the Official church, that opportunity was gone.

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stpaulbear  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:21:34am

re: #313 BeachDem

And who is he thanking?

Ending his tweets with ‘Thank you’ is the new ‘!!!!’

Where I work, everyone ends their email messages with a ‘thank you’ no matter what the subject and it’s become annoying and kind of a joke.

“The funding for your project has been cancelled. Thank you.”

I now try to use other sign-offs whenever possible.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:21:38am
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Teukka  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:23:20am

re: #333 William Lewis

Yes, and see the Didache en.wikipedia.org for another early community’s way of living.

It would be interesting to see how the west would have developed had that stayed the standard but once it became the Official church, that opportunity was gone.

I sometimes semi-seriously toy with starting a community based on a similar ruleset, where you really own very little, but own most of the things in common.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:24:04am

re: #335 jaunte

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We have a Ministry of Propaganda.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:24:44am

re: #325 jeffreyw

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stuffed mini peppers

Stewed monkey heads!

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bratwurst  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:24:49am

The Economist’s correspondent in Berlin is live tweeting an English summary of the German election debate going on right now:

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:24:52am

re: #337 Stanley Sea

A network of everyone in control of agency press releases.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:25:40am

Modern weather radar shows more than just the rain.
I think it’s showing La Tuna fire smoke rather than the worlds most convenient firefighting downpour. A friend joked it was showing the rain from the jet airliner water drops.

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:26:10am

re: #336 Teukka

I sometimes semi-seriously toy with starting a community based on a similar ruleset, where you really own very little, but own most of the things in common.

There are some co-op housing groups in the US that do similar. Doing it without a religion in common is not as easy though the one I almost joined had being mostly old and young hippies in common :) My ex fit that better than me, LOL.

My favorite thing in the Didache is how they warn people against prophets who want money but don’t do any work. From the beginning till today …

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:30:34am

re: #342 William Lewis

There are some co-op housing groups in the US that do similar. Doing it without a religion in common is not as easy though the one I almost joined had being mostly old and young hippies in common :) My ex fit that better than me, LOL.

My favorite thing in the Didache is how they warn people against prophets who want money but don’t do any work. From the beginning till today …

re: #336 Teukka

I sometimes semi-seriously toy with starting a community based on a similar ruleset, where you really own very little, but own most of the things in common.

That’s how I grew up, in a nun-run reform school and a Franciscan monastery school. The first 5 years I didn’t own my own underwear—each Friday we drew the next week’s clothes from a freshly-laundered shelf. Those people were true communists. It worked for them then.

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Teukka  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:36:50am

re: #343 Decatur Deb

That’s how I grew up, in a nun-run reform school and a Franciscan monastery school. The first 5 years I didn’t own my own underwear—each Friday we drew the next week’s clothes from a freshly-laundered shelf. Those people were true communists. It worked for them then.

I’ve noticed that seem to function much better when I’m living under the same roof and in the same house as a large group, like when I volunteer at summer and weekend camps.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:39:23am

re: #344 Teukka

Are your camps ideological (more, say, than our Boy Scouts)? Old Pittsburgh area had a lot of religious-oriented camps, and I think I remember a couple sponsored by the unions.

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Teukka  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:40:29am

re: #345 Decatur Deb

Are your camps ideological (more, say, than our Boy Scouts)? Old Pittsburgh area had a lot of religious-oriented camps, and I think I remember a couple sponsored by the unions.

Religiously and politically unaffiliated charitable non-profit.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:40:31am
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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:41:52am

re: #346 Teukka

Religiously and politically unaffiliated charitable non-profit.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:42:16am

This is why Kelly doesn’t let Bolton in the building anymore

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makeitstop  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:42:22am

Fagen’s tribute to Becker, via Pitchfork.

Walter Becker was my friend, my writing partner and my bandmate since we met as students at Bard College in 1967. We started writing nutty little tunes on an upright piano in a small sitting room in the lobby of Ward Manor, a mouldering old mansion on the Hudson River that the college used as a dorm.

We liked a lot of the same things: jazz (from the twenties through the mid-sixties), W.C. Fields, the Marx Brothers, science fiction, Nabokov, Kurt Vonnegut, Thomas Berger, and Robert Altman films come to mind. Also soul music and Chicago blues.

Walter had a very rough childhood - I’ll spare you the details. Luckily, he was smart as a whip, an excellent guitarist and a great songwriter. He was cynical about human nature, including his own, and hysterically funny. Like a lot of kids from fractured families, he had the knack of creative mimicry, reading people’s hidden psychology and transforming what he saw into bubbly, incisive art. He used to write letters (never meant to be sent) in my wife Libby’s singular voice that made the three of us collapse with laughter.

His habits got the best of him by the end of the seventies, and we lost touch for a while. In the eighties, when I was putting together the NY Rock and Soul Review with Libby, we hooked up again, revived the Steely Dan concept and developed another terrific band.

I intend to keep the music we created together alive as long as I can with the Steely Dan band.

Donald Fagen
September 3 2017

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Teukka  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:43:43am

re: #348 Decatur Deb

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calochortus  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:44:52am

re: #349 FormerDirtDart

This is why Kelly doesn’t let Bolton in the building anymore

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Has he asked the S. Koreans if they want to take over the North? I suspect they don’t.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:47:03am

I’d say that his personality issues prevented Trump from succeeding in his first career as a builder. He couldn’t tell the difference between what he wanted, and what was possible, so he built THREE ginormous luxury casinos in a place that could barely sustain one.

His second career was marketing himself as the symbol of ostentatious wealth. That, he could do.

His third career was marketing himself to a slice of America that has long wanted to believe things that weren’t true, and he was happy to tell them whatever they wanted to believe, including that he was a successful businessman, a shrewd judge of character, a savvy negotiator, and a real tough guy. He did a great job, selling gullible boobs just that image.

His current career requires him to be smart, a good judge of character, restrained, thoughtful, humble, and to base his decisions on the best data available, whether it aligns with what he wants or not. This is why he fails.

It’s an important lesson, that a significant chunk of the electorate can be fooled into thinking that someone so patently ill-suited for the job is PERFECT for it.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:47:37am

re: #351 Teukka

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Teukka  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:49:18am

re: #348 Decatur Deb

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BeachDem  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:49:22am

re: #334 stpaulbear

Ending his tweets with ‘Thank you’ is the new ‘!!!!’

Where I work, everyone ends their email messages with a ‘thank you’ no matter what the subject and it’s become annoying and kind of a joke.

“The funding for your project has been cancelled. Thank you.”

I now try to use other sign-offs whenever possible.

Pa-the-tic. Seems like a standard “You’re welcome” would make more sense (albeit, just as annoying and obnoxious) but I guess there would be too many Your instead of You’re incidents.
/

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:50:13am

Yeahhhhhhhhhh…
Somehow I don’t think the initial push for this came from Donny.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:50:20am

re: #352 calochortus

Has he asked the S. Koreans if they want to take over the North? I suspect they don’t.

There was mass refugee migration in the 50s. Many of the families still have strong ties to villages in the North. Reunification is a quasi-religious theme, most notably in Moon’s church.

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petesh  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:51:30am

re: #352 calochortus

Has he asked the S. Koreans if they want to take over the North? I suspect they don’t.

When I was there about a decade ago, a high proportion of the people I met (who admittedly trended progressive) thought the U.S. should just leave. Some of them were already quietly engaged in joint projects with the north, some of them major (harbor, railroad), and all of them rational.

In the 1960s, North Korea made it to the World Cup in England, and their plucky and friendly team charmed the north-east. When they split, the south was largely agricultural and the north the industrial base; that’s changed, of course. But 50 years is not a long time historically, and re-integrating the peninsula seems inevitable. As long as some clown doesn’t destroy the entire thing “in order to save it.”

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calochortus  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:51:35am

re: #358 Decatur Deb

There was mass refugee migration in the 50s. Many of the families still have strong ties to villages in the North. Reunification is a quasi-religious theme, most notably in Moon’s church.

Yes, but think what it would do to their economy.

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Teukka  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:52:37am

re: #354 Decatur Deb

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:53:21am

re: #355 Teukka

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petesh  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:54:04am

re: #360 calochortus

Yes, but think what it would do to their economy.

Short term problems, mid-term fine, long-term great. Cf Germany.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:54:11am

re: #352 calochortus

Has he asked the S. Koreans if they want to take over the North? I suspect they don’t.

Popular opinion in SK is mixed. They would like a unified Korea again, but the prospect of integrating an entire population of seriously backward people is, shall we say, worrisome.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:54:32am

I’m really lovin’ the hat

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calochortus  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:54:37am

re: #359 petesh

All true, but I can see a lot of problems reintegrating the two populations, and it would be massively expensive for the South, while I can see a lot of resentments on the part of the Northerners as the “poor cousins” after decades of considering themselves as the True Koreans. The Southerners would probably resent spending their money on bringing the North up to speed.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:55:36am

re: #360 calochortus

Yes, but think what it would do to their economy.

They’d feel it, but the payback is in natural resources, much richer in the North. They would rise to the challenge with surprising speed.

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calochortus  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:55:37am

re: #363 petesh

Short term problems, mid-term fine, long-term great. Cf Germany.

I would hope so.

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calochortus  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:57:46am

re: #367 Decatur Deb

They’d feel it, but the payback is in natural resources, much richer in the North. They would rise to the challenge with surprising speed.

As I said, I hope so. It would be best if there was, you know, a long term plan rather than a sudden disaster of some sort.

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BeachDem  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:57:57am

re: #337 Stanley Sea

We have a Ministry of Propaganda.

And news releases have become slam books (complete with the typos typical of this administration.)

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petesh  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:58:21am

re: #368 calochortus

How much is the U.S. spending annually in South Korea? (Asking for a friend.) I mean, the present idiot wouldn’t redirect a rotted-out garbage truck to foreign aid, but between China, Japan and some future administration you’d think something could be worked out, and the global economy would likely benefit. A boy can dream!

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Teukka  Sep 3, 2017 • 11:59:26am

re: #362 Decatur Deb

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stpaulbear  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:00:47pm

re: #357 FormerDirtDart

Yeahhhhhhhhhh…
Somehow I don’t think the initial push for this came from Donny.

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:04:36pm

re: #366 calochortus

All true, but I can see a lot of problems reintegrating the two populations, and it would be massively expensive for the South, while I can see a lot of resentments on the part of the Northerners as the “poor cousins” after decades of considering themselves as the True Koreans. The Southerners would probably resent spending their money on bringing the North up to speed.

It would be somewhat like Germany, but differences would lie in how many of the non-Kim leaders would want it, as compared to Merkel and others in East Germany.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:05:03pm
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Teukka  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:06:43pm

re: #375 Joe Bacon 🌹

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:06:50pm

I Can’t Imagine Why This Word Would Be On My Mind

educable /ed*u*ca*ble/ (ej´u-kah-b’l) capable of being educated; formerly used to refer to persons with mild mental retardation (I.Q. approximately 50-70).

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:06:59pm

re: #371 petesh

How much is the U.S. spending annually in South Korea? (Asking for a friend.) I mean, the present idiot wouldn’t redirect a rotted-out garbage truck to foreign aid, but between China, Japan and some future administration you’d think something could be worked out, and the global economy would likely benefit. A boy can dream!

Just the biggest continuing exercise, Team Spirit, was tracked to cost 900 million in the period ‘76-93. There are several other annual FTXs (Foal Eagle, Ulchi, etc). That’s not even touching the ‘normal’ daily operating cost of the USFK bases.

(Note: opens a .pdf) dtic.mil

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:08:07pm

re: #375 Joe Bacon 🌹

Paul Ryan ✔ @SpeakerRyan
In our country, the condition of your birth does not determine the outcome of your life. This is what makes America so great.

if only that were really true, paul

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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:10:03pm

re: #379 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Well if he wasn’t completely clueless he wouldn’t be a libertarian.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:11:17pm

re: #376 Teukka

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:11:59pm

re: #379 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Paul Ryan ✔ @SpeakerRyan
In our country, the condition of your birth does not determine the outcome of your life. This is what makes America so great.

if only that were really true, paul

Part of the class walls in this country is convincing the lower classes that that lie is true.

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Teukka  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:12:36pm

re: #377 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

I Can’t Imagine Why This Word Would Be On My Mind

educable /ed*u*ca*ble/ (ej´u-kah-b’l) capable of being educated; formerly used to refer to persons with mild mental retardation (I.Q. approximately 50-70).

For having to deal with RWNJ’s excessively?

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electrotek  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:28:38pm
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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:29:41pm

re: #384 electrotek

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Yes, humans do tend to misuse the faith given by God no matter what flavor of religion they consume.

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electrotek  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:33:13pm

Have fun with this tweet:

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electrotek  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:35:43pm

Or this one:

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:36:55pm

re: #387 electrotek

Or this one:

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Tell him he’s being a cafeteria christian. Pick one from the entries and one from the desserts?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:38:31pm

re: #387 electrotek

Or this one:

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“Athiest”? As in ‘the most athy’?

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electrotek  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:44:53pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:49:49pm

re: #390 electrotek

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Depends on WHOSE “Christian Values”. My family, whose Christian values prize tolerance; building a better, more equal, more inclusive society; non-violence; environmental stewardship? Cripes, I’d LOVE to live under THOSE values!

But MOST of those who will proudly* tell you how Christian they are? Fuck no!

*Proudly. That’s kind of the giveaway, isn’t it?

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:51:28pm

re: #388 William Lewis

re: #390 electrotek

When you literally fight for the moral high ground, you probably misunderstand the point of the concept completely.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:52:47pm

Maybe some good news in Burbank. Two thundercells with rain on radar are going right over the fire area, east to west.
intellicast.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:55:44pm

re: #365 FormerDirtDart

SOROS!! Everybody DRINK!!

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calochortus  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:55:58pm

re: #393 Unshaken Defiance

Maybe some good news in Burbank. Two thundercells with rain on radar are going right over the fire area, east to west.
intellicast.com

As long as there is more rain than lightning.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:56:42pm

re: #395 calochortus

As long as there is more rain than lightning.

Yeah. California thunderstorms tend to be light on the wet stuff.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 3, 2017 • 12:57:09pm

re: #122 Dr Lizardo

About 100 Kt from what I’ve read, though possibly as high as 300 Kt. IIRC, the biggest warhead the US currently deploys is 400 Kt (I forgot the name of it, though).

If the DPRK has successfully shot a Teller-Ulam design warhead, that’s quite the technological advancement in a very short period of time.

Once you’ve mastered the fission primary the biggest problem is designing an interstage and secondary that can maintain the intricate dance of thermal energy, pressure and neutron density long enough to generate tritium from the fusion fuel and then fuse it. However if all you’re going to do is put it in a mine shaft you can make the tamper ridiculously massive, which dramatically strengthens the device and reduces the chance of it blowing itself apart too early in a “fizzle,” which is the most difficult trick.

I’m not saying this isn’t a significant leap, but it’s not necessarily a practically deliverable weapon, yet.

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ObserverArt  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:00:40pm

re: #394 Blind Frog Belly White

SOROS!! Everybody DRINK!!

Can’t, had to give it up. There’s been so much Soros the last two years it has become toxic.

Just like drinking anything Clinton. No can do. Even the Top Shelf stuff like Goldman Sachs. Yuck.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:01:13pm
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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:01:35pm

re: #391 Blind Frog Belly White

But MOST of those who will proudly* tell you how Christian they are? Fuck no!

*Proudly. That’s kind of the giveaway, isn’t it?

He has told you, O mortal, what is good;
and what does the LORD require of you
but to do justice, and to love kindness,
and to walk humbly with your God?

Micah 6:8

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:01:50pm

re: #217 mmmirele

Sorry, this is one of my pet peeves.

Maybe so, but it is a completely legit complaint and a great example of embedded casual sexism.

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:02:39pm

re: #392 Unshaken Defiance

When you literally fight for the moral high ground, you probably misunderstand the point of the concept completely.

Oh, yeah, but the reality is some won’t ever get it. Troll once or twice then block (if I were on twitter myself).

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:03:42pm

re: #347 jaunte

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They already maintain all photos and videos uploaded even if the originating tweet has been deleted. People should really think twice before loading any creative to Twitter that they genuinely care about.

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:04:30pm

re: #397 goddamnedfrank

Ivy-Mike vs Castle Bravo.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:09:19pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:10:01pm

I found this in a rabbit hole:

I paired it up with this:

Woody Guthrie~ All You Fascists Bound To Lose

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electrotek  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:13:18pm
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dangerman  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:17:02pm

re: #353 Blind Frog Belly White

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It’s an important lesson, that a significant chunk of the electorate can be fooled into thinking that someone so patently ill-suited for the job is PERFECT for it.

∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆. Thisssee here part

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:18:25pm
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dangerman  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:23:31pm

re: #405 jaunte

[Embedded content]How many times can Pence be caught lying and still be treated by the media as the religious one

We aren’t anywhere near peak pence yet

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:25:14pm

OH LOOK MOAR TOYS! CHRISTMAS COMES EARLY IN HOUSTON!!!!

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:27:12pm

Awww!

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allegro  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:31:46pm

re: #412 goddamnedfrank

Awww!

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Pass awwww, go directly to sniff.

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dangerman  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:36:20pm

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ObserverArt  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:36:54pm

re: #413 allegro

Pass awwww, go directly to sniff.

Allegro, how goes things in your part of Texas?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:47:08pm

This is the “My hands are too big!!!!” photo op.
If you watch it with the sound off, everybody around the Cheeto looks pissed, especially the guy next to him filling up meal containers.

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wrenchwench  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:48:55pm

re: #412 goddamnedfrank

Awww!

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I didn’t know donkeys could purr.

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cat-tikvah  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:50:28pm

re: #406 wrenchwench

I love Billy Bragg. Can’t even tell you how many times I’ve seen him perform.

He talks almost more than he sings.

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allegro  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:51:46pm

re: #415 ObserverArt

Allegro, how goes things in your part of Texas?

Almost hate to say it… for me it’s kinda like nothing happened except for following up with dog rescues. My biggest hardship has been not finding hotdog buns at the store while easily getting everything else on my normal list. Gas prices up by 50 cents around here (southwest Houston) but readily available.

Would that all of southeast Texas be half as fortunate.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:53:24pm

re: #417 wrenchwench

I didn’t know donkeys could purr.

Donkeys and mules have a reputation for being ornery but it’s more that they’ve got long memories and remember the good and the bad. Their stubbornness is a positive trait too because it means they won’t allow themselves to be worked to death.

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wrenchwench  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:57:04pm

re: #420 goddamnedfrank

Donkeys and mules have a reputation for being ornery but it’s more that they’ve got long memories and remember the good and the bad. Their stubbornness is a positive trait too because it means they won’t allow themselves to be worked to death.

Now Shetland Ponies, those are ornery.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 3, 2017 • 1:58:24pm

re: #421 wrenchwench

Now Shetland Ponies, those are ornery.

Tiny horses are the worst. I’ve heard horror stories not fit for public discourse.

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2017 • 2:01:47pm

re: #420 goddamnedfrank

Donkeys and mules have a reputation for being ornery but it’s more that they’ve got long memories and remember the good and the bad. Their stubbornness is a positive trait too because it means they won’t allow themselves to be worked to death.

My step mother has had draft horses and donkeys. I liked the donkeys much better.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2017 • 7:13:56pm

re: #411 The Vicious Babushka

OH LOOK MOAR TOYS! CHRISTMAS COMES EARLY IN HOUSTON!!!!

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“UNDER THE SEA” game over at far left.

good fucking grief…


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