Seth takes a closer look at President Trump’s choice to threaten hundreds of thousands of Americans by ending DACA in the wake of a chaotic summer in office.
1/9 By ending DACA, Trump has signaled to America that following the law will get you nothing. By pardoning Arpaio, Trump has signaled …
— (((IntheNumbers))) (@ItsNumbersMan) September 6, 2017
3/9 DACA because, while they weren’t born here, this is the country they know and love. Some have given their lives, and some are …
— (((IntheNumbers))) (@ItsNumbersMan) September 6, 2017
5/9 chooses to align with those who commit crimes, who regard our constitution as a nuisance, and don’t contribute anything to this …
— (((IntheNumbers))) (@ItsNumbersMan) September 6, 2017
7/9 will. They are the kind of people I want my children to grow up to be, hard working, caring, and patriotic, not in it for …
— (((IntheNumbers))) (@ItsNumbersMan) September 6, 2017
9/9 they will get you into heaven. It’s time to stand up for them because it is what we should do, it’s what we are required to do.
— (((IntheNumbers))) (@ItsNumbersMan) September 6, 2017
From the previous thread:
re: #320 William Lewis
Americorps, VISTA, Peace Corps. Changing diapers in a no cost neighborhood daycare. School assistant. Public defenders assistant. We need many more things done other than being an ablative meat shield for politicians egos.
Would you like to know more?
All programmes conservatives have wanted gone all my life.
re: #5 electrotek
After I called out people for supporting Trump on ending DACA and deporting Dreamers, I had one guy delete me off FB for it.
lol good riddance I say, you “worthless POS”
Edit: the offending post in question of mine:
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Snowflake!
Repost from down stairs:
How big is Irma? She covers an entire 5º of longitude, >600 miles.
Take Texas, cut off the panhandle and West Texas at the New Mexico line, and she would fill it.
Her central pressure is now 916 mbars, or 27.05 on the barometer (third lowest ever recorded), stronger than all but two storms (Camille and the 1935 Keys storm, which killed 408 people).
Stronger than Katrina, Andrew, Hugo, and Gilbert at their worst.
Underneath that circulation is a 35’ tall bubble of water that she is dragging with her until she hits land.
She’s a screaming, rampaging monster and she’s going to kill a lot of people who can’t, or won’t, get out of her way. Get the fuck out of south Florida now.
I was the Hurricane Coordinator for the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality’s Remediation Division and this is the worst system I’ve ever seen.
Tucker Carlson now promoting white nationalist social media site on his show pic.twitter.com/SFhyIruJ3R
— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) September 6, 2017
You’re a low IQ moron. Gab has been about free speech for EVERYONE from day one. Get bent. https://t.co/OSDRSt73mX
— Gab (@getongab) September 6, 2017
UPDATE: The brand account for a white nationalist social media site isn’t happy with my article https://t.co/CPHD2LQUog https://t.co/f4uTWmAsYr
— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) September 6, 2017
re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth
That boy’s pupils are way too close together.
re: #7 austin_blue
Underneath that circulation is a 35’ tall bubble of water that she is dragging with her until she hits land..
Port de Gustiva is likely to be a direct hit around sunrise. The camera is in night mode and still streaming:
The surge is already showing in how high the water gets occasionally on those short piers. In a few hours I suspect things are going to get quite wet there.
10% of US #DACA students are in #Houston. We all lose without them. I join community leaders with @HispanicHouston to support #DACA pic.twitter.com/X1lfCnF4Yp
— Sylvester Turner (@SylvesterTurner) September 5, 2017
re: #7 austin_blue
Repost from down stairs:
How big is Irma? She covers an entire 5º of longitude, >600 miles.
Take Texas, cut off the panhandle and West Texas at the New Mexico line, and she would fill it.
Her central pressure is now 916 mbars, or 27.05 on the barometer (third lowest ever recorded), stronger than all but two storms (Camille and the 1935 Keys storm, which killed 408 people).
Stronger than Katrina, Andrew, Hugo, and Gilbert at their worst.
Underneath that circulation is a 35’ tall bubble of water that she is dragging with her until she hits land.
She’s a screaming, rampaging monster and she’s going to kill a lot of people who can’t, or won’t, get out of her way. Get the fuck out of south Florida now.
I was the Hurricane Coordinator for the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality’s Remediation Division and this is the worst system I’ve ever seen.
I’ve never been much of a storm watcher. Just curious why you say it is the third lowest ever recorded?
My lay mans reading of this shows several with lower central pressures.
All you have to do is spend five minutes on gab•ai to learn that it caters to white supremacists and Nazis.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 6, 2017
The site in question - gab•ai - users call for genocide of Mexicans, Jews, and Muslims. Oh, and Nazis hang out there. And Fox News endorses.
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) September 6, 2017
They won’t go away if you ignore them.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 6, 2017
Dear Twitter Friends, let’s take a look at this World of Ours. So much suffering these days, so many problems, so much negativity.
— David Lynch (@DAVID_LYNCH) November 11, 2011
If he was tweeting this in 2011, I wonder what he thinks now.
Congress now has 6 months to legalize DACA (something the Obama Administration was unable to do). If they can’t, I will revisit this issue!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 6, 2017
Trump now says he’s open to revisiting a policy his admin has now claimed is unconstitutional. https://t.co/uPqEJeqNr5
— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) September 6, 2017
re: #12 danarchy
I’ve never been much of a storm watcher. Just curious why you say it is the third lowest ever recorded?
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My laymans reading of this shows several with lower central pressures.
I extrapolated beyond the data and used strike pressures for the US mainland:
(page13).
I apologize. You are correct. But that thing is entering warmer water with minimal shear. It could actually intensify tomorrow.
Probably not the best way to convince someone that gab•ai isn’t a site full of hateful bigots. pic.twitter.com/OCPCzlLxfj
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 6, 2017
This graphic.
Irma’s 280-300km/h winds just 50km from Barbuda. Eye will move overhead in 2-3 hours. pic.twitter.com/3X6keXXi2C
— Anthony Farnell (@AnthonyFarnell) September 6, 2017
re: #21 Charles Johnson
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They certainly don’t try hard to disprove the point. Faggot. How original. Did this loser just graduate seventh grade?
“You don’t want to spend five minutes among Nazis and bigots? You would totally change your mind if you spent twice that.”
Next up, Pennywise the Clown to discuss what to do with loser children. pic.twitter.com/Xpy6Tm4kWT
— Schooley (@Rschooley) September 6, 2017
re: #27 jaunte
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Yeah let’s have a sheriff who had a pregnant woman die in his jails on! Next up, Hitler on religious intolerance!
Cornelius Rye🌹PRO · @CorneliusRye
LADS, we have to get NORMIE conservative posts trending before Tucker. Hide your Jew memes for a couple hours and tone down your autism.
gab.ai
I typed some stuff, because people are still saying that ignoring Nazis and white supremacists is the best course of action.
I put on hip waders (sometimes hazmat suits) and keep an eye on Nazis and white supremacists so you don’t have to. Though you should as well
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) September 6, 2017
A good place to start is by following @jjmacnab. She’s probably the foremost expert on domestic anti-government extremist movements.
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) September 6, 2017
There’s a cartoon teddy bear (I know, right?) that does a great job of keeping track of the most horrible people in the U.S. @SkeddyRuxypin
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) September 6, 2017
Of course there’s my friend @Green_Footballs who has been on the far right/white supremacist beat for many years. https://t.co/DOM4jZzOyE
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) September 6, 2017
That’s just scratching the surface. @splcenter goes deep into white supremacist movements and personalities.
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) September 6, 2017
All I’m saying is we can’t ignore these racist freaks. They are, after all, occupying seats at the highest levels of government at present.
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) September 6, 2017
re: #33 teleskiguy
I typed some stuff, because people are still saying that ignoring Nazis and white supremacists is the best course of action.
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They want us to ignore them. They know indifference is vital to their success.
Regular brain trust over there at GAB
NObama and the DemoCRAPs ruined America!!! They’re the real racists, we all bleed red white and blue! If we would just cut taxes everything would get fixed! Watch Glenn Beck and read National Review, they aren’t afraid to talk about these politically incorrect truths! Glad FOX told me about gab.ai!
re: #20 austin_blue
I extrapolated beyond the data and used strike pressures for the US mainland:
(page13).
I apologize. You are correct. But that thing is entering warmer water with minimal shear. It could actually intensify tomorrow.
The National Hurricane Center calls for gradual weakening (for now):
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INIT 06/0300Z 17.4N 61.1W 160 KT 185 MPH
12H 06/1200Z 18.1N 63.1W 155 KT 180 MPH
24H 07/0000Z 19.1N 65.9W 150 KT 175 MPH
36H 07/1200Z 20.1N 68.5W 145 KT 165 MPH
48H 08/0000Z 21.0N 71.2W 140 KT 160 MPH
72H 09/0000Z 22.0N 76.2W 135 KT 155 MPH
96H 10/0000Z 23.2N 79.5W 125 KT 145 MPH
120H 11/0000Z 25.0N 81.5W 120 KT 140 MPH
re: #35 gocart mozart
Regular brain trust over there at GAB
Haha do they realize how hysterical they sound? Oh and NRO are cowards who are too cowardly to go full Breitbart.
re: #35 gocart mozart
Regular brain trust over there at GAB
LOLWut?
NObama and the DemoCRAPs ruined America!!! They’re the real racists, we all bleed red white and blue! If we would just cut taxes everything would get fixed! Watch Glenn Beck and read National Review, they aren’t afraid to talk about these politically incorrect truths! Glad FOX told me about gab (dot) ai!
If they bleed red, white, and blue, they are not human and should not be citizens.
re: #36 Anymouse 🌹
The National Hurricane Center calls for gradual weakening (for now):
That assumes interaction with PR, Hispanola, and Cuba. If it turns right three degrees, it will barrel into South Beach full bore.
re: #34 HappyWarrior
They want us to ignore them. They know indifference is vital to their success.
scottslemmons posted a powerful Facebook post the other night about Nazis and Antifa and how to tell the difference. It really resonated with me, especially the back story of being in a music scene. I’ve been there, having to get rid of the skinhead elements in our little punk scene in the Eagle River Valley. We didn’t want those sketchy violent bastards anywhere near where we were playing music. Sometimes violence was involved, always instigated by the skinheads. Our band decided we needed to expel these stupid fuckers otherwise we would keep getting fired from bars we played because these skinhead punks showed up and did nothing but cause trouble.
That shit only lasted about a month. It was ugly, but the skinheads stopped showing up to our shows. We would go on later to open for Guttermouth and The Mighty Mighty Bosstones and play a 20-date tour throughout Colorado, Wyoming, and Utah.
Anyhoo, that was a band called The Stiffies, I played lead guitar and backing vocals. We broke up in 2000, after being a band less than two years.
And if y’all haven’t read the Facebook post I’m speaking of, it’s a good read. Very long, especially for a Facebook post.
Astonishing video starting to come in of cat 5 Irma winds in Barbados pic.twitter.com/6vA1ysxvhV
— Mark Read (@Read4Ks) September 6, 2017
That’s probably an earlier storm, not Irma. Sorry. People are responding to him, saying it’s a tornado.
re: #43 Single-handed sailor
uh, Irma? in the daylight, acting like a tornado?
Doesn’t look right, I agree. Most likely a tornado.
Too early for Barbuda.
re: #39 austin_blue
That assumes interaction with PR, Hispanola, and Cuba. If it turns right three degrees, it will barrel into South Beach full bore.
A three degree right turn would be a significant turn in such a short time.
I’m not a forecaster (nor do I play one on TV), so I put that question in E-mail to my forecaster friend over at Offutt Field.
He says, “nope.”
Buoy on south side of Barbuda up to 38 MPH sust., 60 gust - but 0.16 pressure drop in less than an hour. #Irma pic.twitter.com/d9Qlz9GdVL
— Chris Bianchi (@BianchiWeather) September 6, 2017
— Barry Corindia (@barry_corindia) September 6, 2017
re: #50 prairiefire
I shouldn’t have posted that before checking. It’s not Irma, it’s a tornado.
National Weather Service forecast for Charlotte Amilie, VI
marine.weather.gov
For San Juan, PR:
forecast.weather.gov
They are finally putting up Spanish language weather warnings (I wonder why they weren’t doing that before cough cough GOP), but those are still only in US Customary measures (PR uses metric).
I moved to Houston after living in South Miami in the early 90’s. The night Andrew rolled in to Miami our former across-the-street neighbors called us. They had decided to ride out the storm in their house even though they were on the edge of the storm surge area. They called just to let us know that the (cinderblock, tile-roof) house we had been living in had just been blown flat.
The tree house I built for my daughter probably flew all the way to Naples.
re: #51 jaunte
I shouldn’t have posted that before checking. It’s not Irma, it’s a tornado.
I’m sure there will be some horrible footage coming up. The govenor of PR was on NPR today and there was fear in his voice. He said something about their electrical grid already being incapacitated by something like 60%?
Andrew was the last Category 5 hurricane to make landfall on the mainland of the United States, 25 years ago.
re: #47 Anymouse 🌹
A three degree right turn would be a significant turn in such a short time.
I’m not a forecaster (nor do I play one on TV), so I put that question in E-mail to my forecaster friend over at Offutt Field.
He says, “nope.”
Maybe. Take a look at this page, Figure 4.
That is the nightmare scenario. That is what any ER coordinator worth his or her salt is counting on in designing an evacuation plan or human health and safety response.
You don’t plan on unicorns, you base your plan on large, black swan meteor strikes.
re: #40 teleskiguy
Thanks for posting that again. I’d been meaning to save it.
Good on you and your merry band mates too!
re: #53 jaunte
I moved to Houston after living in South Miami in the early 90’s. The night Andrew rolled in to Miami our former across-the-street neighbors called us. They had decided to ride out the storm in their house even though they were on the edge of the storm surge area. They called just to let us know that the (cinderblock, tile-roof) house we had been living in had just been blown flat.
I knew people who rode it out as well.
They were in the bathtub & heard this huge loud banging down the hall. It was an armoire walking down the hall - caused by the barometric pressure dropping.
Not sure how real that was, but it sure stuck with me.
For those who aren’t into black humor about hurricanes, I’m hiding this. But I laughed.
re: #60 klys (maker of Silmarils)
For those who aren’t into black humor about hurricanes, I’m hiding this. But I laughed.
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Only got a partial off of that. Maybe 50%.
re: #61 austin_blue
Only got a partial off of that. Maybe 50%.
It’s rendering funny behind the spoiler tag. If you click through it shows the whole thing.
re: #58 JordanRules
Good on you and your merry band mates too!
Oh we weren’t that merry. The drummer and lead singer/rhythm guitarist were brothers you see, and they didn’t along. *At all!* Our last gig, we were fired because they got into a fistfight on stage. We broke up that night, I ended up moving away a couple months later for college.
The brothers get along much better these days, but they’ve never played music together since, both of them going their total separate ways.
Hey, we were a loud hardcore punk rock band in our late teens. In hindsight the strife and violence was kind of inevitable, which is why we burned out fairly quickly.
Jimmy announces the show’s $1 million donation to @JJWatt’s hurricane relief fund, and invites a Houston choir to sing “Lean on Me.” pic.twitter.com/R3ZQb3RDbC
— Fallon Tonight (@FallonTonight) September 6, 2017
Are you stupid? Imperial Japan’s colonization of east Asia was justified by Zen Buddhism. Remember Pearl Harbor you fool
— دانیال (@danja84) September 6, 2017
re: #57 austin_blue
Maybe. Take a look at this page, Figure 4.
That is the nightmare scenario. That is what any ER coordinator worth his or her salt is counting on in designing an evacuation plan or human health and safety response.
You don’t plan on unicorns, you base your plan on large, black swan meteor strikes.
You don’t plan on unicorns is true enough. Weather Underground notes that it predicts maximum winds will be 210 in the Florida Straits. That would be a disaster for both Cuba and South Florida (I hear the money printing presses gearing up for Mar-a-Lago right now).
The problem is that pretty much all forecasters will tell you that you can’t “game out” what a hurricane will do with any accuracy after day five.
So while computer modelling after that time seems to indicate Florida needs to prepare, that doesn’t let Alabama west to Mexico off the hook.
When mom told me we were moving to the US I said to her “No mom, why that’s illegal.I’m 9 and I know the law. I’m stayin in Argentina alone”
— Tamara Yajia (@DancesWithTamis) September 6, 2017
re: #56 teleskiguy
Andrew was the last Category 5 hurricane to make landfall on the mainland of the United States, 25 years ago.
My aunt and uncle had just retired and moved to Florida from the non-hurricane state of Illinois. As Andrew approached, he was rushing around in a panic trying to board up windows and died of a heart attack.
re: #68 retired cynic
Oh my! That’s terrible! My condolences.
re: #66 Anymouse 🌹
So while computer modelling after that time seems to indicate Florida needs to prepare, that doesn’t let Alabama west to Mexico off the hook.
It’s not either/or. Andrew, the last cat 5 to hit the US mainland, creamed Florida then crossed the Gulf and laid a mean left hook on Louisiana.
Bride, no … that’s not what you call someone you’re paying… .
President Vladimir V. Putin seemed to be in top form during a news conference in China on Tuesday, answering a question about President Trump by saying the American leader is “not my bride, and I am not his groom.”
While the comment could be interpreted as a subtle jab by a macho Mr. Putin against an equally macho counterpart, the Russian president offered it as an explanation of why he could not comment on domestic American politics.
It came in response to a question about whether the Russian leader takes into account the possibility of Mr. Trump being impeached. Mr. Putin refused to answer, but he did say that Moscow reserved the right to respond to the United States’ having ordered the closing of the Russian Consulate in San Francisco and of two other annexes, the latest move in a diplomatic tit-for-tat between the two countries.
nytimes.com
(more at the New York Times)
Fuck.
Barbuda is about to go through the eye of a 185 MPH hurricane. pic.twitter.com/qUQINspc7k
— Dennis Mersereau (@wxdam) September 6, 2017
(Thread) I lived through a Cat. 5 Hurricane.Didn’t evacuate bc our area wasn’t forecast as point of impact. Last minute, storm shifted to us
— Aisha Saeed (@aishacs) September 6, 2017
A first-person account of what happens during a Category 5 hurricane, granted you survive https://t.co/je8l6jTTUJ
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) September 6, 2017
Accuweather radar for the area around Barbuda
accuweather.com (St John’s weather radar)
Several weather outlets seem to show the hurricane veering right after passing through the Straits of Florida.
re: #7 austin_blue
Methinks you have Irma larger than she actually is. 1 degree latitude is roughly 70 miles so she’s about 350 miles across, not 600. Regardless, she’d still cover a fair portion of Texas. She also has the look of a Western Pacific super-typhoon. Scary as hell!
As a comparison for those of us in tornado country, Irma is in the band of an F3 tornado. The difference is an F3 tornado only lasts a few seconds in one place. A hurricane lasts for hours and hours.
The tornado that hit my county was an F2. It cut a narrow path only about a hundred yards wide in June. We are still cleaning up from it.
Tornado - Bayard NE to Alliance NE
Morrill County NE and Box Butte County NE
Date 12 June 2017
Time (Local) 719 PM to 825 PM MDT
EF Rating EF-2
Est. Peak Winds 111-135 MPH
Path Length 39 Miles (discontinuous)
Max Width 500 yards
re: #75 Woods Witch
Methinks you have Irma larger than she actually is. 1 degree latitude is roughly 70 miles so she’s about 350 miles across, not 600. Regardless, she’d still cover a fair portion of Texas. She also has the look of a Western Pacific super-typhoon. Scary as hell!
“A minute’s a mile, a mile’s a minute.” - Seafaring note on measuring distance.
That is nautical miles, at the equator.
re: #66 Anymouse 🌹
You don’t plan on unicorns is true enough. Weather Underground notes that it predicts maximum winds will be 210 in the Florida Straits. That would be a disaster for both Cuba and South Florida (I hear the money printing presses gearing up for Mar-a-Lago right now).
The problem is that pretty much all forecasters will tell you that you can’t “game out” what a hurricane will do with any accuracy after day five.
So while computer modelling after that time seems to indicate Florida needs to prepare, that doesn’t let Alabama west to Mexico off the hook.
Absolutely true. But you plan for the worst scenario. To do any less is a dereliction of your duty as an ER OSS and coordinator of disaster response. People die if you don’t do your job efficiently.
re: #78 austin_blue
Absolutely true. But you plan for the worst scenario. To do any less is a dereliction of your duty as an ER OSS and coordinator of disaster response. People die if you don’t do your job efficiently.
Fair enough. “Plan for the worst, hope for the best.”
Astonishing video starting to come in of cat 5 Irma winds in Barbados pic.twitter.com/6vA1ysxvhV
— Mark Read (@Read4Ks) September 6, 2017
re: #80 Kragar
Debunked as a tornado in Kansas last year.
re: #79 Anymouse 🌹
Fair enough. “Plan for the worst, hope for the best.”
Yup. If you are wrong you inconvenience people. If you are right, you don’t have to pull their bloated bodies out of a debris field or canal and send them to the morgue.
re: #41 jaunte
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— Levels (@lvlstothis) September 6, 2017
It’s a tornado recorded last year.
— Ѕőмε Ĝůŷ (@MornMoor) September 6, 2017
Plus, I think they have Barbados confused with Barbuda.
Hurricane Irma no threat to Barbados
More bad news: We now have Tropical Storm #Jose in the Atlantic behind #Irma. Expected to become a hurricane in 36-48 hours. pic.twitter.com/pGP3gHLEcI
— Steven Shepard (@POLITICO_Steve) September 5, 2017
Relax everybody, there are only 85 days left in the North Atlantic hurricane season. https://t.co/Ebz8qOm5us
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) September 6, 2017
Wednesday’s cover: As smoke from Western wildfires settles into the region, health officials send out air quality alert, urge caution. pic.twitter.com/3I8ddUuFFd
— Vail Daily (@VailDaily) September 6, 2017
The smoke was bad today. The taller mountains to the south - 10 miles distant - were not visible all day today. The mountain range 25 miles to the east - normally clearly visible - were not visible at all today. The moon has a peach color going for it right now.
re: #85 goddamnedfrank
Analysis: Atlantic hurricane season is growing longer
washingtonpost.com
re: #86 teleskiguy
The smoke is pretty thick tonight. If I didn’t know any better I’d have looked out the window and thought it was a snowstorm.
Don’t know how true this is, but if so, it’s like that Nazi in North Dakota that got his DNA tested.
Or we could stop rewarding illegal behavior and put law abiding Americans first… 🤔 pic.twitter.com/c1kywCSRrp
— Tomi Lahren (@TomiLahren) September 4, 2017
Law-abiding citizens like her great-great-grandfather, indicted by a grand jury for forging naturalization papers? https://t.co/1g9T93E431 pic.twitter.com/pY7ng0AJU5
— Jennifer Mendelsohn (@CleverTitleTK) September 4, 2017
I shook Tomi Lahren’s family tree. You won’t believe what happens next. 😉 https://t.co/WY2kCiSm5A
— Jennifer Mendelsohn (@CleverTitleTK) September 5, 2017
Looking at the latest tracks, it looks like Pensacola or Birmingham might be a safe haven for Floridians.
re: #84 BeachDem
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Plus, I think they have Barbados confused with Barbuda.
Hurricane Irma no threat to Barbados
My rum is safe. Mt Gay Eclipse.
David Daleiden and his lawyers ordered to pay @NatAbortionFed $195K for violating injunction https://t.co/cknUO3yGhd
— Rewire (@Rewire_News) September 6, 2017
re: #86 teleskiguy
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The smoke was bad today. The taller mountains to the south - 10 miles distant - were not visible all day today. The mountain range 25 miles to the east - normally clearly visible - were not visible at all today. The moon has a peach color going for it right now.
Sorry for you down there. You’re getting what we had for a couple days. The wind shift pushed the smoke a bit further west.
We have a frost warning up for tonight. Low 37. Time to light the pilot light on my furnace… .
re: #91 Single-handed sailor
My rum is safe. Mt Gay Eclipse.
I prefer Cockspur. But I can be flexible.
re: #7 austin_blue
She’s a screaming, rampaging monster and she’s going to kill a lot of people who can’t, or won’t, get out of her way. Get the fuck out of south Florida now.
I was the Hurricane Coordinator for the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality’s Remediation Division and this is the worst system I’ve ever seen.
I admit I was not taking this seriously until today. Your description is truly compelling. How wide is that surge?
re: #95 BeachDem
I prefer Cockspur. But I can be flexible.
The best rum is the one that’s in my glass.
re: #92 Kragar
Pence to lobby Trump for a Presidential pardon in 5 … 4 …
re: #94 Anymouse 🌹
It’s as bad as I’ve seen it around here without a fire burning nearby. The nearest active wildfire from myself is in western Routt County, the Deep Creek Fire, about 100 miles to the north.
re: #99 teleskiguy
It’s as bad as I’ve seen it around here without a fire burning nearby. The nearest active wildfire from myself is in western Routt County, the Deep Creek Fire, about 100 miles to the north.
When we woke up to an air quality alert here a few days ago, I was left wondering if someone blew up a local feedlot. /half
re: #100 Anymouse 🌹
When we woke up to an air quality alert here a few days ago, I was left wondering if someone blew up a local feedlot. /half
My wife just remarked, “That would be a shitty thing to do.”
The worst wildfire smoke that I can remember was in 1994, the South Canyon Fire west of Glenwood Springs. I was 25 miles east of the fire. That fire killed 14 firefighters. Glenwood Springs erected a bronze statue of them in their memory. Visibility was reduced to hundreds of feet and they closed I-70 for two days.
We have a dream that one day our kids and the 1.6 MILLION homeless American kids will receive as many benefits as DACA. #EndDACA
— GOP news (@GOPNewsRoom) September 5, 2017
LGBT people make up about 50% of American homeless youth. Y’all don’t even wanna make us wedding cakes. Cut the shit. https://t.co/tx9Jvkso9d
— Phillip Henry (@MajorPhilebrity) September 5, 2017
re: #96 Unshaken Defiance
I admit I was not taking this seriously until today. Your description is truly compelling. How wide is that surge?
Within 50 miles of the center, probably 25 -35 feet. Within 100 miles probably 15’. Here’s the thing about big tropical systems like this. Even if the winds tone down, if they get to a Cat 5 during their buildup, they still carry a Cat 4 or Cat 5 storm surge, like Ike did in Texas. Its was a cat 2 when it hit Galveston, but it put a 25’ surge onto the Bolivar Peninsula, to the northeast of the core. It was devastating.
re: #90 austin_blue
Looking at the latest tracks, it looks like Pensacola or Birmingham might be a safe haven for Floridians.
Birmingham certainly. Pensacola dicey. Although if I were d-man, in Tallahassee tomorrow (let’s hope), I might head next for an overnight in Pensacola on Thursday to await developments, and if need be, head farther west on I-10. I’d even go across Santa Rosa Island for the beautiful seascapes, since those roads will not be threatened until Sunday or Monday if Irma gets into the Gulf.
might could be that mother nature may fuck up the southeastern united states this fall in a way that really makes a point
This is…really gross. WTF? Denver nurses suspended for opening body bag to admire man’s genitals https://t.co/tSL5p2OXg5 via @denverpost
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) September 6, 2017
re: #106 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
might could be that mother nature may fuck up the southeastern united states this fall in a way that really makes a point
As someone living in the southeastern United States, what point would that be?
At 1:48am ADT, the NOAA station at #Barbuda had sustained winds of 107 mph gusting to 131 mph, with a pressure of 939mb. #Irma
— Levi Cowan (@TropicalTidbits) September 6, 2017
re: #106 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
might could be that mother nature may fuck up the southeastern united states this fall in a way that really makes a point
Maybe. But short of an asteroid strike, there’s not much Mother Nature can do to fuck up the southeastern United States more than its human inhabitants have already done.
re: #107 teleskiguy
Can you imagine the conversations?
“Look at the size of this dead dude’s dick! OMG!”
“It’s like a Coke can.”
Yeesh! Fuck my imagination.— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) September 6, 2017
re: #111 teleskiguy
It might have just been the rigor mortis setting in.
re: #108 BeachDem
As someone living in the southeastern United States, what point would that be?
Agreed. We shouldn’t wish death and mayhem on any part of our Republic. We should be better than that.
re: #106 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
might could be that mother nature may fuck up the southeastern united states this fall in a way that really makes a point
Screw all the liberals in the Southeast. Especially those that don’t have sufficient bootstraps to pick themselves up by them and moved to some “enlightened” area.
That’ll show ‘em.
re: #118 Anymouse 🌹
Screw all the liberals in the Southeast. Especially those that don’t have sufficient bootstraps to pick themselves up by them and moved to some “enlightened” area.
That’ll show ‘em.
Heh.
At 1:54am ADT, the NOAA station at #Barbuda had sustained winds of 118 mph with gusts to 153 mph. #Irma
— Levi Cowan (@TropicalTidbits) September 6, 2017
New Jersey Florida Sister moved to Sarasota after talking about it for years. Less than 6 months later, this. I hope she takes it seriously and bugs out if there’s a hint of danger. She did say one thing that made me concerned - “We made it through Sandy, and we’ll make it through this!” But she was living in the Philadelphia suburbs, not on the coast, or in Northern NJ, where it really hit.
re: #111 teleskiguy
“It’s like a Coke can.”
I had two different women tell me this about my brother-in-law’s dick. Only, given the girls they were, they said “can of Budweiser.” I didn’t ask whether 12-ounce or 16-ounce. It was TMI already. I mean, I remember this guy when he was a ten-year old twerp.
re: #123 whitebeach
I had two different women tell me this about my brother-in-law’s dick. Only, given the girls they were, they said “can of Budweiser.” I didn’t ask whether 12-ounce or 16-ounce. It was TMI already. I mean, I remember this guy when he was a ten-year old twerp.
As Vonnegut famously wrote in Slaughterhouse Five, “You’ll never know who’ll get one.”
A decent read of a thread. It’s getting tricky to track all the current natural disasters ongoing.
Educational rant coming up on why the #eaglecreekfire near Portland is sort of a BFD. 1/n
— M.S. Bellows, Jr. (@msbellows) September 5, 2017
re: #108 BeachDem
As someone living in the southeastern United States, what point would that be?
re: #118 Anymouse 🌹
Screw all the liberals in the Southeast. Especially those that don’t have sufficient bootstraps to pick themselves up by them and moved to some “enlightened” area.
That’ll show ‘em.
well, it appears that my choice of words to add strong emphasis to how much a whole series of 800 yr storms would fuck up the united states is open to more than one interpretation
however, if one were to take the phrase literally, the only point i could imagine it making would be that global warming is not a hoax and the time when it can be ignored has come to an end
I have to wonder how long the suspension would be if some male personnel opened a body bag to admire the breasts of a (female) corpse. A week? A day? A severe scolding? Anything?
(I agree that it’s kind of gross, but medical people don’t have the same reaction to the idea of seeing a dead body as we do.)
re: #126 klys (maker of Silmarils)
A decent read of a thread. It’s getting tricky to track all the current natural disasters ongoing.
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BREAKING: Massive riot breaks out at Norton prison in Kansas; “Buildings are burning & inmates have gotten weapons” - State Employee Union pic.twitter.com/Kl9fWDlviV
— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) September 6, 2017
re: #116 austin_blue
Agreed. We shouldn’t wish death and mayhem on any part of our Republic. We should be better than that.
i object to the interpretation that i was wishing death and mayhem on anybody
re: #128 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.
I have to wonder how long the suspension would be if some male personnel opened a body bag to admire the breasts of a (female) corpse. A week? A day? A severe scolding? Anything?
(I agree that it’s kind of gross, but medical people don’t have the same reaction to the idea of seeing a dead body as we do.)
It would probably actually be much worse.
Remember that much of what goes on in a hospital is run by nurses. While doctors are in charge and wield much of the power, the nurses have a lot of pull and can make your life very miserable if you cross them. One of the ways this is felt is in situations like this.
It’s not uncommon for nurses in the OR or on the floor to comment on private things like genitalia of a male patient, or to ‘find reasons’ to wander into the room innocently of a particularly good looking patient. I realise that probably sounds terrible to most of you, and it’s unprofessional to be sure, but for the most part much of it is more or less harmless, and I have never seen it affect patient care. That said, this story is more unprofessional than most I’ve heard, especially the body bag part.
But if a male, even a doctor, were to comment lewdly on female anatomy? The end of the world. Nurses are mostly women, and they protect their own.
re: #133 teleskiguy
NORTON, Kan. Multiple agencies are responding to a disturbance at the Norton Correctional Facility.
The Kansas Association of State Employees describes the situation as a “riot.” KDOC would only describe the situation as a disturbance.
The Norton County Sheriff’s Office says people in Norton are asked to lock their homes and vehicles and remain inside due to the incident at the prison.
In its statement issued about midnight, KDOC says “an inmate disturbance occurred at the Norton Correctional Facility at about 9:30 p.m. (Tuesday.)”
“Local law enforcement agencies are on the scene and are responding to the situation, including the Norton Fire Department,” KDOC says.
“No injuries have been reported at this time.”
Hurricane Irma so strong it’s registering on seismometers.
usatoday.com
OK, the winds in Irma’s huge eyewall are now those of an F3 tornado. Think of that for starters.
But it’s not the winds that kill so much as the water. So think of a 30+ foot storm surge. I’ve been to south Florida and the Keys, and damned if I can remember any part of the natural landscape that’s much, if any, higher than that.
Please, people, leave soonest. And try to persuade your friends and neighbors who plan to ride it out to rethink. And if you can, when you leave, take somebody who is otherwise unable to do so with you.
You need the sound on for this video.
Caracal means ‘black ears’ in Turkish. The caracal cat is native to Africa, the Middle East, Central Asia and India pic.twitter.com/bPzWSgJmLJ
— Ticia Verveer (@ticiaverveer) September 4, 2017
wife: “that isn’t an animal, that’s a power drill. it whirrs.”
me: “… cutest power drill EVER.” https://t.co/AqxJnMwcB4— Arkady Martine (@ArkadyMartine) September 5, 2017
re: #106 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
might could be that mother nature may fuck up the southeastern united states this fall in a way that really makes a point
re: #131 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
i object to the interpretation that i was wishing death and mayhem on anybody
That would be the less-used definition of “fuck up.” /s
Yikes.
If it stays on the forecast track and reaches the Florida Straits, the water there is warm enough that the already “intense” storm could become much worse with wind speeds potentially reaching 225 mph, warned Kerry Emanuel, an MIT meteorology professor.
Glorious moment during a normal Presidency.
Ok trust me when I tell you, you need this. This is American culture at its cohesive, amalgamated best. Enjoy! https://t.co/cuWVQcWsNw
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) September 6, 2017
Guys, guys, don’t worry. Lumpy has it figured out.
Sean Hannity just now: “I talked to Julian Assange, he says it’s not Russia. I just spoke to @DanaRohrabacher and he believes him.”
— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) September 6, 2017
Anger flares:
Rep. Luis Gutiérrez (D-IL) on Tuesday called White House Chief of Staff John Kelly a “hypocrite who is a disgrace to the uniform he used to wear” after President Donald Trump ended the DACA program earlier in the day.
re: #143 JordanRules
Guys, guys, don’t worry. Lumpy has it figured out.
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— Ted Striker (@talon_262) September 6, 2017
re: #131 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
i object to the interpretation that i was wishing death and mayhem on anybody
I’m sorry, but how else should we interpret this post?
“might could be that mother nature may fuck up the southeastern united states this fall in a way that really makes a point”
Words mean things, after all. It is, at the most charitable level, not a nice thing to wish upon your fellow citizens, many of whom are completely innocent of your scorn.
You can clearly see particulate matter hanging out around street lamps at my twenty.
re: #146 austin_blue
I can sure see your point, but since he is one of us, I interpreted it as meaning that climate change would become a lot clearer to people, not that more people should die. Obviously what is going to happen is going to happen, and we can’t change it. People are going to die, be injured, lose everything. And that is horrendous. And there are so many who have blinkers on and just will not see what is coming in another 5-10-15 years.
No one of us wants to see that happen. And I am arguing my way into circles, but because he is here, I did not assume the worst.
Trump met with DREAMers in 2013.
He said they convinced him on DACA.
We talked to them today.https://t.co/a2IzNKb6co— Sam Stein (@samstein) September 5, 2017
I had a realization this evening.
If #HurricaineIrma damages Mar-a-Lago, @realDonaldTrump will use it as an excuse not to give $1mil he promised to Houston.
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) September 6, 2017
re: #150 Ace-o-aces
I had a realization this evening.
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I don’t think he would need any excuse besides he doesn’t want to.
I was a Dreamer too.#America pic.twitter.com/rIa4eWvSOD
— Superman (@SupermanTweets) September 5, 2017
re: #148 retired cynic
I can sure see your point, but since he is one of us, I interpreted it as meaning that climate change would become a lot clearer to people, not that more people should die. Obviously what is going to happen is going to happen, and we can’t change it. People are going to die, be injured, lose everything. And that is horrendous. And there are so many who have blinkers on and just will not see what is coming in another 5-10-15 years.
No one of us wants to see that happen. And I am arguing my way into circles, but because he is here, I did not assume the worst.
I just thought his/her comment was short-sighted and petty. Just because you post here doesn’t mean you don’t occasionally post a rock-stupid comment. Lord knows I have been guilty of it myself.
This is a potential disaster that may very well overwhelm the damage from Harvey. Throwing a snarky para-political comment into what is a looming disaster doesn’t seem helpful.
re: #103 Anymouse 🌹
We have a dream that one day our kids and the 1.6 MILLION homeless American kids will receive as many benefits as DACA.
The reason they’re homeless is because of all the DACA anchor babies!!!
/
re: #146 austin_blue
I’m sorry, but how else should we interpret this post?
“might could be that mother nature may fuck up the southeastern united states this fall in a way that really makes a point”
Words mean things, after all. It is, at the most charitable level, not a nice thing to wish upon your fellow citizens, many of whom are completely innocent of your scorn.
explain to me please how remarking that something may happen is the same as wishing it to happen
when did this change in the meaning of english sentences occur?
re: #153 Anymouse 🌹
Is there some other definition of “fuck up” that doesn’t imply indiscriminate destruction and death in the southeast?
explain to me please how remarking that something may happen is the same as wishing it to happen
is there some definition of “could be” that now has come to mean “i wish”?
I’m getting the feeling that I should have stayed out of this.
re: #106 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
might could be that mother nature may fuck up the southeastern united states this fall in a way that really makes a point
re: #156 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
explain to me please how remarking that something may happen is the same as wishing it to happen
when did this change in the meaning of english sentences occur?
I will concede that mother nature “may fuck up the southeastern United States” is not the same as wishing for it. It did come across to me that you implied that would be a good or useful thing, but I could have misunderstood.
Comment sections of blogs aren’t necessarily the best way to make a case for climate science or any other difficult subject.
That may be why Wonkette doesn’t allow comments. /s
re: #156 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
explain to me please how remarking that something may happen is the same as wishing it to happen
when did this change in the meaning of english sentences occur?
the day that nuance left the political discourse
re: #158 retired cynic
I’m getting the feeling that I should have stayed out of this.
I still have two book reviews to write for the evening so that my queue is maybe somewhat back up to where it should be. Sigh.
At 1st glance it seemed wind went from G155 to calm in eye, but anemometer obs (then pressure) may have stopped transmitting. #HurricaneIrma pic.twitter.com/mUyMBASvKa
— Stu Ostro (@StuOstro) September 6, 2017
re: #161 klys (maker of Silmarils)
It’s 117am here, so perhaps I should take it as a sign to put the computer to sleep for the night, and head for bed and a good mystery. G’nite!
re: #154 austin_blue
I just thought his/her comment was short-sighted and petty. Just because you post here doesn’t mean you don’t occasionally post a rock-stupid comment. Lord knows I have been guilty of it myself.
This is a potential disaster that may very well overwhelm the damage from Harvey. Throwing a snarky para-political comment into what is a looming disaster doesn’t seem helpful.
“snarky” is something that originated in your mind only
listen, buster, if you need me to gloss my original statement so that its intent might become clear to you, it is that if we have a whole series of 800 yr storms wreaking uncanny havoc on the united states, it will not only screw up everything else that might happen in this country for many years to come, but make the point unmistakeably and forever that global climate change is not something that can be fake-news-ed away
i assure you that if in the future i intend to express that i might desire something to happen i will be sure to use verb phrase formulations such as “i wish”, “wouldn’t it be cool if”, or “let’s hope”, or some other easily recognizable english phrase
re: #154 austin_blue
Just because you post here doesn’t mean you don’t occasionally post a rock-stupid comment. Lord knows I have been guilty of it myself.
Recently I got downdinged by Alouette and lawhawk in rapid succession. I done fucked up when that happened. That’s my most recent bonehead shit.
re: #158 retired cynic
Not at all. Your perspective was appreciated!
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) September 6, 2017
re: #156 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
Let me extend an apology for misinterpreting the intent of your post.
The correct response for me would have been to ask you to clarify what you meant by what you wrote.
Instead, I ran with my first impression, which was incorrect.
So we have Dreamers in the military, in Congress, teaching our children and saving lives in Houston.
Now they all live in fear and uncertainty again. Truly cruel.
My wife broke out one of our many coffeemakers and cranked up some French vanilla coffee for bedtime. (We have several types of coffee pots here, and she chose the French press for French vanilla.)
Russian Wingnut Knows What Time It Is and It’s Trump Pee Tape O’Clock (Wonkette)
Well, you know we here at Wonkette aren’t big fans of anyone or anything currently working in the Russian government, so we don’t exactly want to cheer on this Russian wingnut dude, Nikita Isaev, whom the Independent identifies as the leader of the “far right New Russia movement,” and who says it’s time to unleash whatever kompromat Russia has on Donald Trump. And we really aren’t big fans of his reasoning, because he wants to do it to retaliate for the State Department closing down Russian “diplomatic” facilities (spy houses) in the United States. Of course, we figure Secretary of State Rex Tillerson did that behind Donald Trump’s back, possibly maybe like he was daring Trump to fire him for being mean to Mother Russia.
And …
Anyway, here is what happened:
Speaking on Russia-24, Nikita Isaev, leader of the far-right New Russia Movement, said the compromising material should be released in retaliation over the closure of several Russian diplomatic compounds across the US.
When asked whether Russia has such material, Mr Isaev, who is also director of the Russian Institute of Contemporary Economics, replied: “Of course we have it!”
As soon as tax returns or pee tapes come out, DT could lose his ability to control the narrative. He will have to come up with something to overshadow either or both, and I do not wanna think about what that could be…
Shame on you @delta. Jacking from $547 to over $3200 for people trying to evacute responsibly? #IrmaHurricane pic.twitter.com/O2nfPHQUAh
— Leigh (@LeighDow) September 5, 2017
Well, after all the times the CIA and others tried to bump off Fidel Castro, if he’d lived a bit longer he’d certainly be toasting the cluster that is our GOP now.
re: #174 JordanRules
Price gouging during an emergency is illegal.
See if there is a conservative in the land who cares.
America hating immigrants is like a body rejecting its own blood.
— Hari Kondabolu (@harikondabolu) September 5, 2017
re: #176 Anymouse 🌹
Price gouging during an emergency is illegal.
See if there is a conservative in the land who cares.
The heart and soul of the Free Market.
re: #156 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
explain to me please how remarking that something may happen is the same as wishing it to happen
when did this change in the meaning of english sentences occur?
re: #164 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
“snarky” is something that originated in your mind only
listen, buster, if you need me to gloss my original statement so that its intent might become clear to you, it is that if we have a whole series of 800 yr storms wreaking uncanny havoc on the united states, it will not only screw up everything else that might happen in this country for many years to come, but make the point unmistakeably and forever that global climate change is not something that can be fake-news-ed away
i assure you that if in the future i intend to express that i might desire something to happen i will be sure to use verb phrase formulations such as “i wish”, “wouldn’t it be cool if”, or “let’s hope”, or some other easily recognizable english phrase
>>I think I will refuse to engage in a testosterone fueled flame war on this board. You said what you said. The correct response would have been “I’m sorry for inferring that it might be a good thing that the southeast might get fucked up by a hurricane.”
I was also a member of Bruce Sterling’s Viridian Design movement. I’ve been in this fight since the mid 90’s, when I was employed by the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality as an Emergency Response Coordinator before I retired in 2015. We thought we had it won when Gore won the Peace Prize in 2007, but we are still fighting for the Paris Agreement.
“For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, a stranger and you welcomed me”; Matthew 25:35
— Marco Rubio (@marcorubio) September 5, 2017
I was sick & you voted to gut my healthcare; I was an immigrant & you rejected your own reform bill; I was poor & you cut taxes for rich ppl https://t.co/l2xzWk7VzD
— John Fugelsang (@JohnFugelsang) September 6, 2017
Why I use a real live in-person travel agents instead of a computer.
Someone further down her thread noted computer alogrithms to drive surge pricing (gouging) have suddenly decided the southeast is the most unpopular place on the planet now and a ticket from LAX-MIA is only $87.
.@Delta reached out & helped tremendously. Note to travelers, always call airline directly if something doesn’t look right.#IrmaHurricane
— Leigh (@LeighDow) September 5, 2017
I got Kiwi a lil goth gf 🖤💛💚 pic.twitter.com/dZ0jb0ZVc3
— baby almond (@painthands) September 4, 2017
re: #181 Anymouse 🌹
The airline agents or a 3rd party travel agent?
When we say the West is burning, this is what we mean:
Scores of huge fires ripping through tinder-dry forests, blanketing the US in smoke. pic.twitter.com/ovhshHFlH0— Alex Steffen (@AlexSteffen) September 5, 2017
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) September 6, 2017
re: #183 JordanRules
The airline agents or a 3rd party travel agent?
In her thread, she noted she got the Delta ticket price from Expedia. She also noted that Delta wasn’t the only guilty party, all airlines were gouging through Expedia. She noted the Delta price was just the most egregious example she could find.
Actually calling Delta they straightened it out.
re: #183 JordanRules
The airline agents or a 3rd party travel agent?
One way, Miami to Austin on Thursday.
$1504.20
One ticket left.
re: #184 JordanRules
If the prevailing Westerlies keep blowing the fire eastward, we’ll catch fire soon.
No air quality alert or fire alert for us in the near future, just a frost advisory.
re: #177 JordanRules
Hari Kondabolu ✔ @harikondabolu
America hating immigrants is like a body rejecting its own blood.
11:23 PM - Sep 4, 2017
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Too bad the Trump supporters are contemptuous of anyone who is not of white European ancestry — regardless of whether they are an immigrant or a natural born citizen.
re: #186 Anymouse 🌹
Oh, I meant what do you use?
For frequent, simple travel, 99% of the time booking online is fine IMO. I definitely don’t need an agent to get me from PHX to LAX. You can do comparisons quickly and all kinds of stuff once you become familiar with all the different sites.
Yeah, I saw examples from other airlines on Twitter too. So messed up.
re: #179 austin_blue
“I’m sorry for inferring that it might be a good thing that the southeast might get fucked up by a hurricane.”
but clearly i did not infer that
your correct response would have been “i don’t know how i managed to read “want” into “might”
I think I will refuse to engage in a testosterone fueled flame war on this board.
here you use a time honored rhetoric strategy known as “refusio”, where you claim that you are not going to do something just before you go ahead and do it
re: #189 Hecuba’s daughter
That’s a good point about it not really mattering if you are a citizen or not. If you aren’t the right kind, you’re not welcome.
re: #190 JordanRules
Oh, I meant what do you use?
For frequent, simple travel, 99% of the time booking online is fine IMO. I definitely don’t need an agent to get me from PHX to LAX. You can do comparisons quickly and all kinds of stuff once you become familiar with all the different sites.
Yeah, I saw examples from other airlines on Twitter too. So messed up.
I use an actual travel agent with a real office, in Ogallala. In cases where she can’t help us (like buying rail tickets for our trip to Germany and Poland or our trip to Churchill), I call the transport company in question.
re: #191 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
“I’m sorry for inferring that it might be a good thing that the southeast might get fucked up by a hurricane.”
but clearly i did not infer that
your correct response would have been “i don’t know how i managed to read “want” into “might”
I think I will refuse to engage in a testosterone fueled flame war on this board.
here you use a time honored rhetoric strategy known as “refusio”, where you claim that you are not going to do something just before you go ahead and do it
Oh, hell, son, just go ahead and fuck right off. Really. I don’t have the patience to put up with skeeves like you. I’m too old. Just fuck off. Sheesh. Pismire.
re: #146 austin_blue
how else should we interpret this post?
this is precisely the question you should have asked yourself
re: #193 Anymouse 🌹
Gotcha! On wonderful travel excursions like going to Europe, I’d certainly use an expert too. It’s great to have one you have a relationship with too. I’d definitely need a referral.
re: #191 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
Dude, you fucked up. You said something pretty vile and now you’re
If I were you, I’d apologize and STFU about it.
You said
might could be that mother nature may fuck up the southeastern united states this fall in a way that really makes a point
On first interpretation of that, anyone could conclude that you actively wish for death and destruction.
And fuck you for saying it.
re: #197 teleskiguy
Naw man. Read the thread. Dog and Austin may be doubling down on their interaction but there have been other turns, interpretations
and open minds here.
re: #194 austin_blue
Oh, hell, son, just go ahead and fuck right off. Really. I don’t have the patience to put up with skeeves like you. I’m too old. Just fuck off. Sheesh. Pismire.
if you can’t stand the heat, just don’t start with me in the first place
re: #193 Anymouse 🌹
I use an actual travel agent with a real office, in Ogallala. In cases where she can’t help us (like buying rail tickets for our trip to Germany and Poland or our trip to Churchill), I call the transport company in question.
Computer algorithms are useful but they can fall apart in extreme situations. So sometimes the programmers needs to add a condition to the formula that specifies the result cannot exceed $x or fall below $y. OTOH, the programmers here are probably not given any guidance and no one has directed them on min/max bounds to incorporate.
For Curious Lurker (and anyone else who needs a cute break), today’s guinea pigs:
🎵”My Hay Cookies bring all the pigs to my yard…”🎵 #guineapig #pets @NaturesOwnPets pic.twitter.com/2PNr3VIHHs
— Squidgypigs (@squidgypigs) September 3, 2017
re: #197 teleskiguy
Dude, you fucked up. You said something pretty vile and now you’re
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If I were you, I’d apologize and STFU about it.
You said
On first interpretation of that, anyone could conclude that you actively wish for death and destruction.
And fuck you for saying it.
well, fuck you for interpreting it that way
really, i don’t know what the fuck is happening in you people’s brains that that would be the interpretation that you would read into it
re: #198 JordanRules
Nope. It’s pointless dick waving, and engineer dog is being a fuckin’ asshole.
re: #200 Hecuba’s daughter
I’m sure not having those maximums set is by design.
re: #196 JordanRules
Gotcha! On wonderful travel excursions like going to Europe, I’d certainly use an expert too. It’s great to have one you have a relationship with too. I’d definitely need a referral.
I can refer you to my travel agent if you wish. I’m not sure you want to travel all the way to Ogallala, NE to sit in her office, but if you have a credit card she might take your order over the phone. (If you’re a local person she knows, she’ll take a personal cheque.)
G’night Lizards.
I strongly recommend the application of a medicinal cat photo or two. Video if you are dealing with an exceptionally strong case. Reapply as needed.
re: #203 teleskiguy
I love how you say nope like there aren’t literally other interpretations that people have put forth and accepted.
re: #207 JordanRules
I’m speaking for myself.
OK, without context, how would some schmo interpret these words?
might could be that mother nature may fuck up the southeastern united states this fall in a way that really makes a point
No question marks. No punctuation. Hell, no capitalization.
At first glance I would say FUCK YOU YOU FUCK. Rightly so. Like austin_blue said, words matter. That’s a bullshit statement unworthy of LGF.
re: #197 teleskiguy
Dude, you fucked up. You said something pretty vile and now you’re
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If I were you, I’d apologize and STFU about it.
You said
On first interpretation of that, anyone could conclude that you actively wish for death and destruction.
And fuck you for saying it.
If I weren’t going directly to bed, I’d probably be sorry for mixing in to this, but…
For the record, I did not so interpret it.
Hmmmm, Should I have a bowl of Gorilla Glue #5 or a bowl with a little Cactus mixed with Purple Hindu Kush? Fuck it, the way you guys are acting I’m going to have both.
re: #208 teleskiguy
Read the thread like I originally suggested. You’re replaying the 3rd quarter dude.
re: #211 JordanRules
You’ll never win me over with American football metaphors.
I’ve read every comment between austin_blue and engineer dog. And I think engineer dog is being obstinate.
I think many arguments here are triggered by the fact that people are typing when we should be asleep and we often fail to understand how others can misinterpret our remarks. Then we all dig in and argue to defend what we meant. At work, I’ve been in situations (not controversial) where I knew what I meant but the recipient of the note completely misjudged my comments, and went down the wrong path. Or my favorite typo: someone substituting “now” for “not”.
And now I think I am going to try to return to bed!
re: #208 teleskiguy
I’m speaking for myself.
OK, without context, how would some schmo interpret these words?
No question marks. No punctuation. Hell, no capitalization.
At first glance I would say FUCK YOU YOU FUCK. Rightly so. Like austin_blue said, words matter. That’s a bullshit statement unworthy of LGF.
my opinion is that you are the one who needs to explain why you interpreted it the way you did
how would some schmo interpret these words?
by taking the time to consider that it might be unlikely that somebody who has commented here in the past would intend to say something shockingly sociopathic?
re: #212 teleskiguy
Football from another country then?
Others have weighed in and that’s what I was referring to. That’s all.
re: #216 teleskiguy
That is not what he said. Please check it out again.
He has posted here before so he’s saying why would one assume he’d say something sociopathic all the sudden.
British soldiers arrested for being part of neo-Nazi group that praised murder of Jo Cox https://t.co/tB0RVDnS3f pic.twitter.com/AChaFIMFmI
— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) September 6, 2017
re: #214 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
What you said was sociopathic. So I guess I’m a sociopath for thinking you said something sociopathic.
Night all, I think we should concentrate on what is really important over the next couple of days.
Trump tweeting on how Irma is the Best Hurricane Ever!
Sweet scaly dreams.
I’ll twist the logic and rhetoric all I please. What engineer dog said was fucked.
I’m out. Later.
Bands, swirls, and strings of pearls in one of the latest images of #Jupiter from #Juno. Taken Sept 1, 2017, proce… https://t.co/2YdpdO2jRb pic.twitter.com/fxlH8t2aQO
— Sophia Nasr (@Astropartigirl) September 5, 2017
My opinion (which probably no one wants) is that everyone is talking or thinking past each other on Dog Philosopher’s original post (as I did and he clarified to my satisfaction).
Perhaps more guinea pigs will help? Don’t make me unleash the guinea pigs… .
UNLEASH THE GUINEA PIGS!
Interesting… Twitter’s very own weighs in. Yes, folks are giving him shit about issues with his platform in the replies.
Completely unnecessary and cruel. Ending #DACA is a crushing blow to those who want to contribute to our future. https://t.co/Cpu0J01ioK
— jack (@jack) September 5, 2017
re: #16 Charles Johnson
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Tucker has a tv show. How is anything he broadcasts on his tv show, done in silence?
Super Hurricane #Irma just made landfall in Barbuda.
Weather, cellular, and radio stations in the area suddenly went off.— Ralph Abainza (@AbainzaRalph) September 6, 2017
Thousands of patriotic #Dreamers who served our nation in uniform are at risk of deportation due to @realDonaldTrump’s cruel #DACA decision. pic.twitter.com/8UVxZUBwcC
— VoteVets (@votevets) September 5, 2017
Please watch this. Many #dreamers & immigrants were part of our 1st Armored Division team in N. Iraq. They sacrificed, gave their lives. https://t.co/9iSj7hOidR
— Mark Hertling (@MarkHertling) September 6, 2017
re: #227 JordanRules
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It’s not a super hurricane. It’s a hurricane. It’s a Cat 5. Can’t we just call things what they are?
Have mercy, we are just fucking idiots in This Modern World..
re: #229 austin_blue
Ralph is just a weather enthusiast in the Philippines with 3 retweets. Luckily it probably won’t catch on.
Well, I’m off to bed. G’night y’all.
Goddamn. For an ideology that professes personal responsibility and admonishes “victimhood,” they sure are a bunch of whiny “whaddaboutme”s.
— Liberal Dachshie Mom (@NastyBoof1970) September 6, 2017
For now, the live Webcam on St. Bart’s is still running:
youtube.com
Guardian has live blog of Irma.
From journalist in Antigua.
Comms to Barbuda still down. Damage remains unclear. Earlier report of the police station roof blowing off. #IrmaHurricane #HurricaneIrma
— A Kentish (@anikaek) September 6, 2017
Apparently in the fever-swamps that represent right-wing social media, a photo is floating around which claims to show Donald Trump rescuing two cats from flooding in Houston.
Snopes rates it as false (the photo is altered, and the flood is an Iowa flood from 2008)
re: #236 Anymouse 🌹
I’ve seen the pic. It was the most obvious joke ever.
I can’t believe Snopes had to weigh in. It was with a series of other ones photoshopping the yam into various rescue pics.
re: #237 JordanRules
I’ve seen the pic. It was the most obvious joke ever.
I can’t believe Snopes had to weigh in. It was with a series of other ones photoshopping the yam into various rescue pics.
Snopes has had to weigh in on a lot of right wing derp. This very-well sourced article below is very recent (I can’t seem to find dates on Snopes articles).
I’ve heard this occasionally floated as an idea all my life, but the last couple years there has been a full court press to push this idea into the mainstream.
Short answer: no. The article refers to many statements and documents, including the Nazis own statements, to show why it is “no.”
Painting liberals as Nazis has been a pasttime of right-wingers (the old no one wants to be considered a Nazi) and against adversaries in comment sections of blogs and USENet (thus the source of Mike Godwin’s famous quote).
Texas Tech President calls for Congressional action to protect “DACA” students
Texas Tech President Lawrence Schovanec released a letter to the campus community Tuesday saying the university supports all students, including those enrolled in the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.
The letter came in response to President Donald Trump’s plan to “wind down” the program aimed at protecting hundreds of thousands of young immigrants who were brought into the country illegally as children.
Congressman Jodey Arrington (R-edneck) and other GOP flying monkeys could do no better than repeat Jeff Sessions’s spurious claim that DACA is unconstitutional.
Barbuda w/ 1,638 population, is still in deep silence. ABS Radio in Antigua just reported that it has now been 3 hours since last contact.
— Michael Gavran (@gavranovo) September 6, 2017
Consider wildlife/ecol. impacts too. #Barbuda home to Frigate Bird Sanctuary (~150 species). All birds there may be killed by #Irma. pic.twitter.com/ivWOORa9wa
— Roger Edwards (@SkyPixWeather) September 6, 2017
I see Ron Johnson wants concessions from Dems on the wall for help with #DACA. May be heartless from some POV but I say Claen or no. IMHO, these pigs own it now
re: #245 Dave In Austin
Graham and Durbin said no to that. Will be interesting to see how the GOPers split on this.
I fear Barbuda is going to be bad. Their shelters are above-ground structures (schools, churches). Hopefully some underground. pic.twitter.com/OnzDiVUvXi
— ZeroPointNow (@ZeroPointNow) September 6, 2017
re: #248 freetoken
I’ve been watching that tree hang on for hours.
re: #250 JordanRules
I’ve been watching that tree hang on for hours.
The palm is a stubborn thing.
The sun ought to be up, but I guess it’s so dark still in St. Barth’s that the cameras are stuck in night mode.
Port Gustavia is right at the lead eyewall:
Looks like Youtube is now just playing loops of the last couple of minutes of broadcast from St. Barths.
The latest track from NHS shows the hurricane moving right up the Florida Peninsula (in five days they show it as a major hurricane centred over Lake Okeechobee).
It would appear instead of my bro-in-law in Houston being in danger, it’s my son in Jacksonville.
Some ham radio folks are trying to reach Barbuda but apparently have had no luck yet. Ham radios can operate on battery power.
— what’s next? (@maybenexttime99) September 6, 2017
Supposedly the last video portion from Anguilla (the big island, not St Barth) before the video stopped:
#VIDEO: #LIVE footage from #HurricaneIrma in #StMaarten from https://t.co/TUjTdYPyRR https://t.co/GHBvGCtkfh pic.twitter.com/Dp34IUZ4H6
— PTZtv (@PTZtv) September 6, 2017
Lizards called it yesterday.
Hurricane looks like largest ever recorded in the Atlantic!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 6, 2017
re: #259 JordanRules
Not so much a live feed anymore. The clip I posted was captured by someone watching the feed before it died.
Anguilla coming up on the NE eyewall now:
The previous video was when Anguilla was on the west side. Supposedly the “weak” side.
re: #241 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
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Favorite bad metaphor:
“This is territory so virginal no human eyeball has yet set foot on it.”
Number 10: E Coli romance!
It’s OK, just close your eyes and chant “but Al Gore is Fat”, and it will all go away….
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) September 6, 2017
She has effectively become the Asian Trump:
Aung San Suu Kyi is blaming “terrorists” and “fake news” for violence against the Rohingya. Over 125,000 Muslims have tried to flee Myanmar: pic.twitter.com/ZxkQP8iZ8K
— AJ+ (@ajplus) September 6, 2017
Trump hints in tweet that if Congress doesn’t act he’ll “revisit” DACA issue. Raises hopes that there might be a path. Sessions, gleeful to rescind, was last seen crashing through the floor after stomping and shouting “you promised me we could deport!”
Wait, is he giving his kids a TERRORIST FIST BUMP!
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) September 6, 2017
Canada is deeply concerned by the flow of refugees from Myanmar & reports of serious abuse against the Rohingya. Civilians must be protected
— Justin Trudeau (@JustinTrudeau) September 5, 2017
re: #266 electrotek
She has effectively become the Asian Trump:
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Man this is sad. You’d think after how she was treated by the military dictatorship there. So much cruelty in the world man. Religion can be such a powerful and positive force but it can be so destructive too.
Apparently some comms in Gustavia must be workings, as these tweets are timed when the eye was overhead:
#Inondations à Gustavia (#SaintBarth) au lever du jour. Vidéo de Rudy Jules via @instagram : https://t.co/MliMF9GSTZ pic.twitter.com/hFJEHA8GgW
— Keraunos (@KeraunosObs) September 6, 2017
Irma - des images de Saint Barth @ParisMatch pic.twitter.com/KhbYgMr6ha
— Pauline Lallement (@pau_lallement) September 6, 2017
re: #270 HappyWarrior
Man this is sad. You’d think after how she was treated by the military dictatorship there. So much cruelty in the world man. Religion can be such a powerful and positive force but it can be so destructive too.
She just proved herself how she is embedded in the racism and bigotry of Burmese society. She’s a witch.
re: #272 electrotek
She just proved herself how she is embedded in the racism and bigotry of Burmese society. She’s a witch.
I know. Can’t help but to think of that Dark Knight quote of dying the hero and living to become a villain.
re: #266 electrotek
She has effectively become the Asian Trump:
Aung San Suu Kyi is blaming “terrorists” and “fake news” for violence against the Rohingya. Over 125,000 Muslims have tried to flee Myanmar:
The Rohingya are mere pawns in an Asian power play: China is interested in obtaining an outlet to the Indian Ocean and these poor folks are stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Also appears to be tweeted while in the eye:
#HURRICANE IRMA 06/09/17 #Marigot By Laurent Petit ce matin #StMartin ##SXM #IRMA pic.twitter.com/deDDVVu9iF
— Jérémy Edouard (@bienglace) September 6, 2017
re: #117 austin_blue
Strap in, it’s going to be a bumpy night.
I couldn’t tell if those was a hurricane comment or a nurse-getting-suspended-for-a-peekaboo comment. They’re kinda commingled at this point in the comments. 😳
The tweet says “after” Irma, but this is only the damage from the western eyewall:
dhs_jules: RT crofin67: #StMaarten #StMartin after #irma diffcult time #StBarth #StBarthelemy #barbuda #hurricane pic.twitter.com/NIzjQ0sAz2
— Lawrence County EM (@LawrenceCOEM) September 6, 2017
Préfecture en partie détruite, casernes de pompiers sinistrées : 1er bilan du passage #Irma à #StBarth #StMartin https://t.co/PUcP6k6S53 pic.twitter.com/Jq9jORBXUS
re: #280 freetoken
Just saw this report. Most sturdy buildings destroyed per French officials. Yikes.
re: #260 JordanRules
Lizards called it yesterday.
MAKING HURRICANE STORMS GREAT AGAIN!!! OBAMA NEVER HAD SUCH BIGLY STORMS!
re: #194 austin_blue
Oh, hell, son, just go ahead and fuck right off. Really. I don’t have the patience to put up with skeeves like you. I’m too old. Just fuck off. Sheesh. Pismire.
Upding for “pismire” That’s a word you don’t see much anymore.
re: #272 electrotek
She just proved herself how she is embedded in the racism and bigotry of Burmese society. She’s a witch.
My late husband and I saw the movie Beyond Rangoon when it was released in 1995. She was a hero then and represented truth in the face of dictatorship. It is so sad when someone who starts as good and caring slowly metamorphoses themselves into evil and cruelty. We are all capable of being carried away by anger and hatred.
OT from the discussion a few hours age: perhaps we lizards could restrict the word sociopath to those who truly deserve it: any member of the Trump family (Barron excepted for now), anyone who still supports Trump, all GOP members of the House, most GOP in the Senate, and anyone who likes Ayn Rand.
re: #282 Sir John Barron
The pictures on my TV are great! I’d give up golf to watch this cool storm stuff!
re: #281 JordanRules
Those images are from inside the eye. The islands are now in the thick of the eastern side. This was the satellite just minutes ago:
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Those little islands on the east side of the wall are Anguilla.
re: #283 The Vicious Babushka
Upding for “pismire” That’s a word you don’t see much anymore.
I have seen “pissant” in the sense of diminutive…obviously related.
re: #284 Hecuba’s daughter
My late husband and I saw the movie Beyond Rangoon when it was released in 1995. She was a hero then and represented truth in the face of dictatorship. It is so sad when someone who starts as good and caring slowly metamorphoses themselves into evil and cruelty. We are all capable of being carried away by anger and hatred.
OT from the discussion a few hours age: perhaps we lizards could restrict the word sociopath to those who truly deserve it: any member of the Trump family (Barron excepted for now), anyone who still supports Trump, all GOP members of the House, most GOP in the Senate, and anyone who likes Ayn Rand.
Oh this woman is from that movie? I liked that movie, too, haven’t seen it in a while.
re: #288 Sir John Barron
Oh this woman is from that movie? I liked that movie, too, haven’t seen it in a while.
I haven’t seen it but I first really became aware of her because a lot of celebrities championed her cause. If Sergey’s here, it kind of reminds me of what we saw with Lech Walesa a little.
Alex Jones level derp:
#BreakingNews - Hurricane Irma has destroyed the Island of #SaintMartin #HurricaneIrma pic.twitter.com/qF8mG7Z22U
— Kevin W. (@kwilli1046) September 6, 2017
#EUSSR #FR/ #NL #DomTom #OutreMer #StMartin/ StMaarten destroyed by #NOAA-#Weaponised #WeatherWarfare ⚠ #HurricaneIrma Cat 5 ⚠#EVACUATE #FL https://t.co/9IpH7iwxGs
— William Guy Carr ㊙️ (@sine_injuria) September 6, 2017
ENOUGH OF THIS FLORIDA SUCKING UP AND PITY!
KANSAS MATTERS TOO!
ALL STATES MATTER!
re: #290 freetoken
Lots of Irma fueled derp out there. I’ve seen some crazy stuff on the Twittahs!
It’s been dark as late dusk here for the past 45 minutes or so. Weather says there’s a cell over the Great South Bay triggering 30-40 lightning strikes per minute.
Most convincing hoax I’ve ever been a victim of.
/
re: #295 makeitstop
It’s been dark as late dusk here for the past 45 minutes or so. Weather says there’s a cell over the Great South Bay triggering 30-40 lightning strikes per minute.
Most convincing hoax I’ve ever been a victim of.
/
My lightning guns sure are something, eh?
re: #296 Varek Raith
My lightning guns sure are something, eh?
The very best lightning guns, that I can tell you.
So…wow, I’ve been paying attention to nukes and storms…I *knew* we had a bad fire season, but at the same time I wasn’t paying attention to it.
So in the last 3 days, hurricane experts, wildfire experts, and nuclear arms experts have all basically tweeted
“oh fuck”— Emily G, Cville. (@EmilyGorcenski) September 6, 2017
And, for more fucking awesome disasters…Turkey Point nuclear power plant is 30 miles from Miami. It’s over 40 years old.
One extremely good and cool thing about Hurricane Irma potentially hitting Miami is the Turkey Point Nuclear Plant! https://t.co/euLdnvWg8T
— Swill Your Seidel (@krillyourtidal) September 5, 2017
re: #293 Varek Raith
So, its not Cobra Command got the Weather Dominator fixed?
God I really hate parts of the left sometime. So Trump puts 800,000 people easily in jeopardy yesterday and what are these clowns bitching about? Hillary.
A bipartisan group of senators plans to introduce a resolution on Wednesday condemning the white nationalists who participated in the Charlottesville rallies in August, Politico reported Wednesday morning.
Sens. Mark Warner (D-VA), Tim Kaine (D-VA), Cory Gardner (R-CO) and Johnny Isakson (R-GA) will sponsor the resolution aimed at forcing President Donald Trump to either sign or reject a condemnation of “white nationalists, white supremacists, the Ku Klux Klan, neo-Nazis and other hate groups.” Trump does not have to address most resolutions, but the sponsors will introduce it as a joint resolution, which would require Trump’s signature.
I wonder how he’ll try to dodge that.
re: #301 HappyWarrior
God I really hate parts of the left sometime. So Trump puts 800,000 people easily in jeopardy yesterday and what are these clowns bitching about? Hillary.
We can start caring about DACA and the ACA and our basic survival once we’ve achieved perfect purity.
/
re: #302 makeitstop
I wonder how he’ll try to dodge that.
He’ll weasel and Duke and Spencer will love him even more for it.
re: #302 makeitstop
I wonder how he’ll try to dodge that.
It’ll have to pass both chambers which it never will. House will send it to Rules for review and it will sit there until the end of this Congress.
re: #303 Sir John Barron
We can start caring about DACA and the ACA and our basic survival once we’ve achieved perfect purity.
/
These people are so goddamn immature. They say Hillary sucked because she couldn’t beat Trump. Well what does it tell you that Sanders couldn’t beat Hillary then if she’s so awful? Never an answer for that just bullshit about the DNC “stole” the primary from him. These people don’t give a shit about the minorities that play a big role in the Democratic Party and instead want to make it all about a seventy six year old dude from Vermont who has limited appeal beyond white lefty college students and old lefties who can’t accept that Americans aren’t in love with the idea of socialism.
re: #241 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
#9 was actually pretty good. And funny as hell.
“Her vocabulary was as bad as, like, whatever.”
That seems pretty on point and perfect, to me.
This is “interesting”:
… It was last Thursday, and Sessions and one of his former aides, Stephen Miller, who now serves as Trump’s senior policy adviser, tried to get into the Oval Office to see Trump and talk again about their opposition to protections for Dreamers, according to a person familar about the situation. They saw the president wavering and wanted to remind him of the legal argument and the stakes.
Kelly stopped them.
Kelly, the former secretary of homeland security, had a solution in mind aimed at allowing Trump to fulfill a campaign promise while easing the president’s clear misgivings about ending a program geared toward children — many of whom had no idea they were being brought to the country illegally. Delay the program’s end by six months, Kelly told Trump.
There was a practical benefit of this approach too; it would give Congress time to devise a legislative fix to protect nearly 800,000 Dreamers.
“General Kelly either wants a delay on the decision or to keep DACA, and is very frustrated by the attorney general and his former staffer Stephen Miller’s efforts to pursue their own agenda, given the president told his staff in the past he wants to keep DACA in place,” according to a person familiar with the situation.
Kelly used the weekend to call congressional leaders and lock in support. As details leaked, the administration’s decision was now set…
I don’t hate socialism btw but too many socialists including Sanders are too obsessed with it to see other problems going on and maybe that’s why their message fails to take hold. Inequality IS a problem but so is racism, xenophobia, sexism, etc and for someone representing a state with less minorities then my home country to just dismiss it as a “distraction” is insulting.
re: #308 Belafon
… It was last Thursday, and Sessions and one of his former aides, Stephen Miller, who now serves as Trump’s senior policy adviser,
I’d somehow missed this connection before.
I have nothing but horrible wingnut Congressmen in my neck of Texas, so to get them to read the postcards I send them, I have to resort to trickery — namely, I send them weird cartoons. Here are the five latest:
New postcards I’m sending to my rotten, rotten Congressmen. Instructions revolved around support… https://t.co/DFvcVAI9hj
— Zort Zammons (@MistahScooter) September 6, 2017
I’d love to find out whether these cartoons actually got them to read the postcards instead of immediately round-filing them, but I don’t think I’d be able to call them up and ask.
re: #310 Sir John Barron
I’d somehow missed this connection before.
Oh yeah? Dead eyes Miller was on Sessions Senate staff.
re: #260 JordanRules
Lizards called it yesterday.
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
Hurricane looks like largest ever recorded in the Atlantic!
6:53 AM - Sep 6, 2017
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Hurricanes love Trump…so yeah they are gonna be Yuge!!!
Only during Trump administration are Hurricanes this big. Hurricanes during Obama times were wimpy.
Trump has the biggest hurricanes, just like his hands. Too big!
re: #313 HappyWarrior
Oh yeah? Dead eyes Miller was on Sessions Senate staff.
Not surprising, but discouraging to learn this guy has been allowed to spread his bugfuggery in the Senate and in the W.H.
re: #317 Sir John Barron
Not surprising, but discouraging to learn this guy has been allowed to spread his bugfuggery in the Senate and in the W.H.
Yeah I know. This guy literally was mentored by Dickhead Spencer in college.
Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. Storm prep in Puerto Rico, USVI and Florida continues as Irma bears down on them. Sheltering in place in some of these locations is not an option when the storm surge is likely to be catastrophic, and the winds are akin to being in a EF-4 tornado.
This is the kind of storm that the only safe move is to get out of the way.
There are mandatory evacuations out of the Florida Keys. Low lying areas are going to be absolutely hammered, and the storm track continues to put South Florida squarely in its sights.
Along the way, it’s likely to do significant to catastrophic damage to vulnerable locations like Haiti and the Dominican Republic too. Puerto Rico isn’t in great shape to handle a storm like this either; the ongoing recession and teetering on bankruptcy has meant the island hasn’t got the resources to devote to hardening its infrastructure, and they’re warning that areas might not see power restored for weeks (or months).
We can joke about how we’d love to see Mar a Lago returned to ocean, and that the 19th Hole there would truly become a watering hole, but the reality is that all of South Florida is going to be hit by a storm that as presently construed would make Andrew look tame.
After Andrew, Florida began to institute new building codes, and many structures built after Andrew are reinforced and are better able to handle severe tropical weather. The problem is that there’s far more structures out there that haven’t been retrofitted and that means damage to those structures is likely, and the debris from those damaged structures will inflict damage on adjacent/nearby structures. Again, this is as though you’re getting a multi-mile wide EF-4 tornado roaring through for hours. This will seriously redistribute the contents of any given geographical area thoroughly.
For the lizards in Florida, stay safe and have your evac plan and go-bags ready.
re: #302 makeitstop
I wonder how he’ll try to dodge that.
He’ll ask for a resolution condemning the alt-left/antifa who participated in the Charlottesville demonstrations. He will make sure to point out that he is signing both of them at the same time because there are good and bad people on both sides…okay.
re: #312 HappyWarrior
Kelly is a coward.
Kelly can’t stop Trump. Kelly can try to get him to “delay” so that it will be someone else can do the right thing.
Imagine working in that environment.
re: #315 ObserverArt
Hurricanes love Trump…so yeah they are gonna be Yuge!!!
Only during Trump administration are Hurricanes this big. Hurricanes during Obama times were wimpy.
Trump has the biggest hurricanes, just like his hands. Too big!
Has Trump ordered troops to Mar a Lago yet, to protect the china and Trump wine?
re: #298 I cannot.
There are a cluster of nuclear power plants that are on coastal areas. That includes St. Lucie nuclear power station up the coast from there.
It is possible that a storm surge of a significant magnitude could inundate the backup systems just as surely as they did at Fukushima (or the Arkema chemical plant in Crosby TX), and cause system failures.
Hope isn’t good enough to protect these systems. The NRC should require backup systems should be elevated out of likely storm surge path but this GOP and Trump admin are busy rolling back safety protections that are already proving insufficient. Ignoring the evidence on global warming and sea level rise means that facilities like coastal nuclear power plants are more vulnerable in coming years, and the spent fuel pools become as dangerous as the reactor cores themselves.
re: #310 Sir John Barron
I’d somehow missed this connection before.
Me too. Sure does bring some clarity to the mini-Hitler sessions and “Dead Eyes” Miller.
Current weather loop from Guadaloupe showing the storm slamming Puerto Rico and US VI.
#BREAKING Trump profits from golf memberships bought by lobbyists, federal contractors https://t.co/F6OiiCvsxf
— USA TODAY (@USATODAY) September 6, 2017
Yeah, who didn’t see this coming.
re: #309 HappyWarrior
I don’t hate socialism btw but too many socialists including Sanders are too obsessed with it to see other problems going on and maybe that’s why their message fails to take hold. Inequality IS a problem but so is racism, xenophobia, sexism, etc and for someone representing a state with less minorities then my home country to just dismiss it as a “distraction” is insulting.
Too damn many have got it in their heads that economics is THE sole, singular, animating problem and all else spawns from it, that if you just make everything perfect economically, that all those other issues will disappear. You see this especially with racism, where they claim racism is used as a distraction from classism, and if you solve classism, racism will naturally melt away.
They don’t get that the issues are interrelated, rather than the same issue in disguise. Yes, racism has been used to distract from classism, but it didn’t not INVENT racism. Racism was a convenient existing crowbar already there that could be used to co-opt another issue. Giving everyone basic income though, however, will not magically make people stop treating other people as sub-human purely on the basis of skin color or ethnicity. Even in our Prosperity Gospel-soaked psyche, we see how even the richest minority can often be treated as lesser than the poorest white person when push comes to shove.
You saw this during the initial surge of ‘What about the WWC?!’ bullshit after the election. You see it in the absolute erasure of Clinton voter PoVs post-election, where it’s almost like they don’t exist except when cast as villain to the Trump voter protagonist. And as many have pointed out, there’s a goddamn reason so many PoCs voted for Hillary and the Dems. It’s not a fucking game, and we’ve already seen how being sold an economic utopia gets people left behind because it ‘s either sold on the foundation of bigotry or turns a blind eye to it on the assumption that ‘a rising tide lifts all boats’.
re: #328 Citizen K
Too damn many have got it in their heads that economics is THE sole, singular, animating problem and all else spawns from it, that if you just make everything perfect economically, that all those other issues will disappear. You see this especially with racism, where they claim racism is used as a distraction from classism, and if you solve classism, racism will naturally melt away.
They don’t get that the issues are interrelated, rather than the same issue in disguise. Yes, racism has been used to distract from classism, but it didn’t not INVENT racism. Racism was a convenient existing crowbar already there that could be used to co-opt another issue. Giving everyone basic income though, however, will not magically make people stop treating other people as sub-human purely on the basis of skin color or ethnicity. Even in our Prosperity Gospel-soaked psyche, we see how even the richest minority can often be treated as lesser than the poorest white person when push comes to shove.
You saw this during the initial surge of ‘What about the WWC?!’ bullshit after the election. You see it in the absolute erasure of Clinton voter PoVs post-election, where it’s almost like they don’t exist except when cast as villain to the Trump voter protagonist. And as many have pointed out, there’s a goddamn reason so many PoCs voted for Hillary and the Dems. It’s not a fucking game, and we’ve already seen how being sold an economic utopia gets people left behind because it ‘s either sold on the foundation of bigotry or turns a blind eye to it on the assumption that ‘a rising tide lifts all boats’.
You get it. Too many of the holier than thou other white lefties I know do NOT get it.
re: #325 lawhawk
Current weather loop from Guadaloupe showing the storm slamming Puerto Rico and US VI.
Damn, the eye looks like it is lined right up to hit Vieques the Puerto Rican Island that is just east of Puerto Rico’s mainland.
That is where my friend Ode is living. I can see her and her number* of dogs trying to ride it out. She also works at a doggy center where they both care for dogs, have a kennel and a place for people to leave their dogs when away. She most likely will want to care for them all.
*number because I have no idea how many doggies she currently has. I think it was 5 last time I heard a couple months ago. She takes in strays all the time and then falls in love with them.
re: #331 ObserverArt
Damn, the eye looks like it is lined right up to hit Vieques the Puerto Rican Island that is just east of Puerto Rico’s mainland.
That is where my friend Ode is living. I can see her and her number* of dogs trying to ride it out. She also works at a doggy center where they both care for dogs, have a kennel and a place for people to leave their dogs when away. She most likely will want to care for them all.
*number because I have no idea how many doggies she currently has. I think it was 5 last time I heard a couple months ago. She takes in strays all the time and then falls in love with them.
My cousin has friends in PR too. Man whole thing is just awful.
Despite vacationing in yet another capital city I’ve finished The Defenders. It was pretty satisfying, although it did not reach the level of DD or JJ. The main villain was played by a great actress but she was still very bland and stereotype-laden. But still it was a fun ride.
re: #334 Nyet
Despite vacationing in yet another capital city I’ve finished The Defenders. It was pretty satisfying, although it did not reach the level of DD or JJ. The main villain was played by a great actress but she was still very bland and stereotype-laden. But still it was a fun ride.
Hey man I was thinking of your points about Lech Walesa since what’s going on with Aung San Suu Kyi in Burma kind of reminds me of that.
re: #330 HappyWarrior
You get it. Too many of the holier than thou other white lefties I know do NOT get it.
It’s what infuriates me about the Berniacs and the purity pony folks who think that single-payer will solve everything. Would it be nice? Yes. Is it worth fighting for? Yes! is it worth ignoring every single other issue we have to hold the line on because the GOP is busy rolling every-fucking-thing back to 1850? No!! If you want to be a party for the people, you have to be a party for the especially marginalized, and that includes PoCs in a time where it’s clear that the WH is intent on demonizing them in particular!
I mean, I get just as pissed about the centrist scolds who have been treating Antifa as somehow a worse threat than fucking Nazis because of the strain to give the right some weird benefit of the doubt they haven’t earned yet (like, you know, Maggie Thrush and Glenn Haberman do with Trump…don’t @ me, I’m not convinced they’re separate people anymore). And that’s why I’m pissed when I see this bullshit about ‘Identity Politics’ coming from both sides of the firing line, the newest boogeyman because “Politically Correct” somehow isn’t scary enough anymore.
re: #336 Citizen K
It’s what infuriates me about the Berniacs and the purity pony folks who think that single-payer will solve everything. Would it be nice? Yes. Is it worth fighting for? Yes! is it worth ignoring every single other issue we have to hold the line on because the GOP is busy rolling every-fucking-thing back to 1850? No!! If you want to be a party for the people, you have to be a party for the especially marginalized, and that includes PoCs in a time where it’s clear that the WH is intent on demonizing them in particular!
I mean, I get just as pissed about the centrist scolds who have been treating Antifa as somehow a worse threat than fucking Nazis because of the strain to give the right some weird benefit of the doubt they haven’t earned yet (like, you know, Maggie Thrush and Glenn Haberman do with Trump…don’t @ me, I’m not convinced they’re separate people anymore). And that’s why I’m pissed when I see this bullshit about ‘Identity Politics’ coming from both sides of the firing line, the newest boogeyman because “Politically Correct” somehow isn’t scary enough anymore.
Exactly. Welfare state policies hasn’t made things better in Europe on race. And you’re definitely right about the POC and how “Identity Politics” has become the new PC for tohse who are too chickenshit to confront real issues going on.
#HurricaneIrma isn’t hitting the US next week, it’s hitting it tomorrow. I live in the USVI, one of the neglected US Territories. #WeExist
— Julian Bishop (@juliandonbishop) September 4, 2017
Irma is already hitting the US. Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands (it’s right there in the goddamned name).
If you had someone with Sanders economic vision but with a more practical nature and a better ear for cultural issues, I’d love that candidate and in fact, I did support someone like that in Perriello.
re: #335 HappyWarrior
Right. That’s also why only dead people should get monuments. ;)
re: #336 Citizen K
Is the Antifa worse or the same as the Nazis? Obviously not. Are they no-good punks that should STFU and fuck off? Yes.
re: #341 Nyet
Is the Antifa worse or the same as the Nazis? Obviously not. Are they no-good punks that should STFU and fuck off? Yes.
It is necessary for the right-wing polemicists to associate anyone who is anti-fascist with antifa.
re: #340 Nyet
Right. That’s also why only dead people should get monuments. ;)
Hahaha well even the dead get unflattering stuff revealed about them. Never seen letters do appear but I get your joke :).
re: #342 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
It is necessary for the right-wing polemicists to associate anyone who is anti-fascist with antifa.
Which is what’s happening.
How do you talk to someone who thinks words are just words? Someone who I honestly don’t think is a bigot but is quite insensitive to the fact that words do have meaning and can hurt people?
re: #344 HappyWarrior
Which is what’s happening.
German press and media did a similar thing in the wake of the G-20 riots in Hamburg. Anyone opposed to corporatist globalism is painted as a bomb-throwing anarchist vandal and looter.
re: #346 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
German press and media did a similar thing in the wake of the G-20 riots in Hamburg. Anyone opposed to corporatist globalism is painted as a bomb-throwing anarchist vandal and looter.
Lots of the patterns we see are from American exclusive. Others just have their own spin. I’m sure in Germany and in Sergey’s home in Russia, there exists the “You can’t do thing A because thing B is happening too.”
re: #345 HappyWarrior
You may need to come to terms with them being a bigot.
re: #322 b.d. (bill d.)
Has Trump ordered troops to Mar a Lago yet, to protect the china and Trump wine?
Speaking of China, if this were indeed China, we’d be seeing the current situation as portents that Trump is about to lose the Mandate of Heaven.
re: #345 HappyWarrior
How do you talk to someone who thinks words are just words? Someone who I honestly don’t think is a bigot but is quite insensitive to the fact that words do have meaning and can hurt people?
Insult them a few times, and then remind them words are just words. Or insult their family members.
Or, to be more polite, ask them what they would think if you insulted their family and friends.
re: #348 JordanRules
You may need to come to terms with them being a bigot.
Honestly, I don’t think they’re a bigot. I just think they’re incredibly insensitive to what words mean to people.
re: #350 Belafon
Insult them a few times, and then remind them words are just words. Or insult their family members.
Or, to be more polite, ask them what they would think if you insulted their family and friends.
This is a family member. Our very own iconclast in a sea of bleeding hearts.
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re: #342 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
It is necessary for the right-wing polemicists to
associate anyone who is anti-fascist with antifa.
And some of the liberals are only too happy to play along. “You know what fa in antifa means, right? How can anyone oppose them? Maybe *you* are a fascist? Huh? huuuuh?!!!1”
re: #345 HappyWarrior
How do you talk to someone who thinks words are just words? Someone who I honestly don’t think is a bigot but is quite insensitive to the fact that words do have meaning and can hurt people?
What ethnic background are they you? There are slurs for everyone of them. Just call them that every time you speak to them, you stupid (fill in blank). Like “You stupid effing (…).”
Then you can ask him after a month of that how he feels about being an “effing (…)”
My 2 cents.
re: #356 nines09
What ethnic background are
theyyou? There are slurs for everyone of them. Just call them that every time you speak to them, you stupid (fill in blank). Like “You stupid effing (…).”Then you can ask him after a month of that how he feels about being an “effing (…)”
My 2 cents.
He honestly doesn’t offend over it. I’ve tried pointing out that calling us crackers has nowhere the same historical meaning as the n-word. I really don’t think he’s a bigot. I really don’t but do I think he’s a bit insensitive? Yes, as well.
re: #355 Nyet
And some of the liberals are only too happy to play along. “You know what fa in antifa means, right? How can anyone oppose them? Maybe *you* are a fascist? Huh? huuuuh?!!!1”
Nothing is ever as simple as partisans want it to be.
re: #351 HappyWarrior
I know you honestly believe that. You want to give folks the benefit of the doubt and you hope for and see the best in people. And that’s a good thing! At what point do bigoted words mean you’re a bigot though? Maya Angelou says when someone shows you who they are, believe them.
re: #357 HappyWarrior
He honestly doesn’t offend over it. I’ve tried pointing out that calling us crackers has nowhere the same historical meaning as the n-word. I really don’t think he’s a bigot. I really don’t but do I think he’s a bit insensitive? Yes, as well.
does it not bring back recollections of when bands of blacks went about lynching white men with impunity?
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re: #345 HappyWarrior
That can be a tough one.
I’d start by pointing out to them all of the types of people that use said language an impress upon them that they don’t want to sound like or be compared to said people.
re: #359 JordanRules
I know you honestly believe that. You want to give folks the benefit of the doubt and you hope for and see the best in people. And that’s a good thing! At what point do bigoted words mean you’re a bigot though? Maya Angelou says when someone shows you who they are, believe them.
That’s what I honestly want to figure out. As I said, it’s a close family member. One I’ve never seen go out of his way to be a jerk to a PoC simply because tehy were a poc. I really want to think this is just insensitivity due to white privilege and frankly being kind of arrogant.
re: #361 Varek Raith
That can be a tough one.
I’d start by pointing out to them all of the types of people that use said language an impress upon them that they don’t want to sound like or be compared to said people.
Yeah, that’s what I sort of said.
re: #357 HappyWarrior
He doesn’t see the offense because he was never in that stew. Good luck.
re: #362 HappyWarrior
Being nice in people’s face doesn’t make up for it unfortunately. Me personally, I’d rather you be who you normally are when I’m not around so I know what I’m really dealing with.
I know it sucks but I kinda think you should just tell them they are a bigot and that they need to change their language and attitude because you know deep down they know better and they should strive to be a better person.
re: #365 nines09
He doesn’t see the offense because he was never in that stew. Good luck.
Exactly! I really do think it’s something that will be grown out of though in time. Another close family member was immature for other reasons and quite honestly now, he’ll be the first person I go to for advice if I ever have kids.
re: #366 JordanRules
Being nice in people’s face doesn’t make up for it unfortunately. Me personally, I’d rather you be who you normally are when I’m not around so I know what I’m really dealing with.
I know it sucks but I kinda think you should just tell them they are a bigot and that they need to change their language and attitude because you know deep down they know better and they should strive to be a better person.
Yep, you got it. I think we’ve come to an understanding thankfully. It just frustrates me because he ain’t dumb by any stretch but boy does he have a lot to elarn and experience.
re: #369 HappyWarrior
Yep, you got it. I think we’ve come to an understanding thankfully. It just frustrates me because he ain’t dumb by any stretch but boy does he have a lot to elarn and experience.
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re: #369 HappyWarrior
Yup! Make him do better. Hold him to a higher standard because you love him. Don’t compromise or excuse because you will end of feeling like crap. And it means something to you, that’s why we’re discussing it. It’s important so let him know and be very blunt about it.
re: #331 ObserverArt
She takes in strays all the time and then falls in love with them.
You say that like it’s a bad thing. :-)
LATEST: “Eye of potentially catastrophic Category 5 Hurricane Irma closing in on the Virgin Islands”; winds remain at 185 mph pic.twitter.com/AQE3uN96xW
— NBC News (@NBCNews) September 6, 2017
Deleted tweet from Brian Klaas showing footage misattributed to Irma - thanks Jordan!
On another note, I love the BBs accusing Clinton of being overly bitter when they engage in name calling and call her a failure. To be blunt here, I think Clinton accomplished more in one year as SoS than Sanders has his entire time in Congress. It’s one thing to have a nice voting record. It’s another to lead and Clinton has acutally done that in a way IMO Sanders can’t or hasn’t.
I should start preparing for Irma in the coming days…
re: #375 HappyWarrior
On another note, I love the BBs accusing Clinton of being overly bitter when they engage in name calling and call her a failure. To be blunt here, I think Clinton accomplished more in one year as SoS than Sanders has his entire time in Congress. It’s one thing to have a nice voting record. It’s another to lead and Clinton has acutally done that in a way IMO Sanders can’t or hasn’t.
Haha, much projection, such wow!
re: #376 Varek Raith
I should start preparing for Irma in the coming days…
You think she’s coming our way? BTW, hope Bob Marshall loses big time this fall. It would be so perfect if he lost to the first openly transgendered Delegate in Virginia history but his candidate is an awesome lady too.
So, called my Mom down in Fort Lauderdale last night. She and my brothers plan on riding it out. I told her to make sure she had a small bag pack, and ready to take with her when the helicopters come to pluck her off her roof.
re: #379 HappyWarrior
You think she’s coming our way? BTW, hope Bob Marshall loses big time this fall. It would be so perfect if he lost to the first openly transgendered Delegate in Virginia history but his candidate is an awesome lady too.
Might end up going up the east coast, over the Outer Banks of NC. May be problematic for us.
re: #377 Varek Raith
Haha, much projection, such wow!
No kidding. They’re like HOW DARE SHE WRITE A BOOK. But you know that they’d love it if Sanders had a book out and dished out Clinotn. My favorite though Varek is how they’re saying “Man Hillary sucks, she couldn’t beat Trump.” Uh your dude couldn’t beat her. What’s that say about him? The same dude that got Republican like numbers among racial minorities in our primaries.
re: #381 Varek Raith
Might end up going up the east coast, over the Outer Banks of NC. May be problematic for us.
Agh. That sucks especially because I got Slavic festival this Sunday. Irma’s going to be on my shit list if she gets in the way of my pirohi, kolbasi, and halushki!
re: #374 lawhawk
Regarding that alleged storm video tweet.
Irma did not strike Barbados… this is from a tornado last year in Colombia.
— Cody Kirkpatrick (@codykirkpatrick) September 6, 2017
It’s being circulated everywhere as the hit on Barbuda but it’s not that either. Barbuda’s comms all knocked out at 12:30am. Landfall at about 1:45am. No comms since so we have no pics or video.
I think the Bros can’t accept the fact that there are some people out there who genuinely like Hillary Clinton and didn’t see her as settling. And that bothers them most of all because they think everyone should hate the Clintons as much as they do.
re: #331 ObserverArt
Damn, the eye looks like it is lined right up to hit Vieques the Puerto Rican Island that is just east of Puerto Rico’s mainland.
That is where my friend Ode is living. I can see her and her number* of dogs trying to ride it out. She also works at a doggy center where they both care for dogs, have a kennel and a place for people to leave their dogs when away. She most likely will want to care for them all.
*number because I have no idea how many doggies she currently has. I think it was 5 last time I heard a couple months ago. She takes in strays all the time and then falls in love with them.
I hope she’s doing fine. So far, local reports everything is as fine as it can be, under the circumstances.
This crap is out of control. I kept my own rule. I did not read the comments.
re: #341 Nyet
Is the Antifa worse or the same as the Nazis? Obviously not. Are they no-good punks that should STFU and fuck off? Yes.
My problem with this is that Antifa isn’t exactly an organization, and as a movement, it’s still only being characterized by the worst of them at this point, the Black Bloc folks who seem to get treated as the sole representative of everything from Occupy, to Antifa, to the IMF protests and such. It’s the same playbook that gets BLM painted as wholly made up of rioters and looters, what got the civil rights movement painted as a bunch of riotous racist savages themselves, etc. It’s the same goddamn playbook.
I mean, yes, Antifa has to reckon with its fellow travelers in the Black Bloc morons who do no favors to anyone actually standing up against the Nazi folks etc. But it’s frustrating when this happens while fucking Nazis get apologias and paeans about free speech, etc. I don’t remember Antifa being responsible for things like out and out murder yet, and if anything coming out about Charlottesville in the recent is any indication, premeditated at that.
It’s a front in the same war that values ‘tone’ over ‘substance’, where Neo-Nazis and white supremacists get more credit for couching their purge talk in nice rhetoric and pressed khakis while groups like Antifa and BLM get painted as terrorists as soon as one person throws one thing, and gets everything else about them dismissed. It’s the some goddamn double standard that keeps us losing every goddamn time, especially when enough people on our own side willfully play into it.
I’m troubled to see free speech becoming I have a right to say whatever without criticism. By all means let the bigot freak fly but don’t cry when people call you what you are and cry about political correctness or identity politics.
re: #392 HappyWarrior
I’m troubled to see free speech becoming I have a right to say whatever without criticism. By all means let the bigot freak fly but don’t cry when people call you what you are and cry about political correctness or identity politics.
It is called Wanting The Best of Both Worlds: freedom without responsibility
re: #393 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
It is called Wanting The Best of Both Worlds: freedom without responsibility
Yep the modern right wing mindset in a nutshell.
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— Mental Floss (@mental_floss) September 6, 2017
I WAS LAUGHED OUT OF MY SECOND GRADE CLASSROOM. WELL WHOS LAUGHING NOW, MRS. SHIELDS?! https://t.co/Rd0KLKad8y
— Ianni Versace (@IanKarmel) September 6, 2017
Ummmmm
Great to have Kap stop by the studio today. pic.twitter.com/2UPuyCdWdK
— Jason Whitlock (@WhitlockJason) September 6, 2017
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) September 6, 2017
Finally! We should get an update on Barbuda soon.
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— Sass E. Revere (@SassERevere) September 6, 2017
re: #339 HappyWarrior
If you had someone with Sanders economic vision but with a more practical nature and a better ear for cultural issues, I’d love that candidate and in fact, I did support someone like that in Perriello.
For a moment there I thought you meant Sarah Huckabee Sanders and was wondering what the hell you were thinking.
And no, they don’t where it came from.
I think it’s generally accepted that tigers are not native to Henry County, GA. ///
Police killed a tiger on the loose on a Georgia highway after it attacked a dog. https://t.co/bIkwZKmjTK
— USA TODAY (@USATODAY) September 6, 2017
re: #399 Eclectic Cyborg
For a moment there I thought you meant Sarah Huckabee Sanders and was wondering what the hell you were thinking.
Yeah whenever I see the name “Sanders” I have to make sure which one is being talked about.
re: #373 MsJ
You say that like it’s a bad thing. :-)
You only took it that way! : )
When she and my now passed friend were still living in Columbus, it was always a house of dogs. Every time I would visit there was a chance a new doggie would be introduced. Sometimes they took in strays from around Ohio State University, feed and love them, return them to health and then give them to a new loving home. They ran their own shelter.
One they kept, and possibly the most energetic and athletic dog was Ina a little black and white Wire Hair/Jack Russel Terrier. I loved that crazy dog. 10 minutes and she would wear you out jumping, running climbing on you, allowing a few pets and then running off and coming back again and again.
re: #396 Ace-o-aces
He’s the worst! If he didn’t do sports on Fox he’d gladly tap dance on Fox News or in Twitler’s cabinet.
Navy orders USS Kearsarge & Oak Hill to reverse course and remain off Florida coast for Hurricane Irma relief—not going to Texas for Harvey
— Lucas Tomlinson (@LucasFoxNews) September 6, 2017
Utterly. Fucking. Useless.
Betsy DeVos will reportedly announce plan to roll back Title IX enforcement this week https://t.co/DKrPdd9Akd pic.twitter.com/Rk5OZEC6D4
— Jezebel (@Jezebel) September 6, 2017
Overjoyed by these beautiful letters. Reading them is one of the highlights of my week. 😍 pic.twitter.com/AF5tSMHnB6
— Ivanka Trump (@IvankaTrump) August 25, 2017
Meanwhile….https://t.co/Hyx1MwkQ9Q
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) September 6, 2017
Hurricane Irma just slammed into Trump’s Chateau des Palmiers estate in the Caribbean, @mateagold reports: https://t.co/amybOYMoYC
— Jenna Johnson (@wpjenna) September 6, 2017
Yeah, someone cue the bible thumpers who say that storm X hitting Y is proof that the people there are wicked/evil and need to change their evil ways.
re: #407 lawhawk
Yeah, someone cue the bible thumpers who say that storm X hitting Y is proof that the people there are wicked/evil and need to change their evil ways.
Nah, more like
See how much Trump is sacrificing to MAGA!!!!!
re: #399 Eclectic Cyborg
For a moment there I thought you meant Sarah Huckabee Sanders and was wondering what the hell you were thinking.
Hahahha I know it’s so confusing.
re: #407 lawhawk
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Yeah, someone cue the bible thumpers who say that storm X hitting Y is proof that the people there are wicked/evil and need to change their evil ways.
only when gays, harlots and baby killers are involved
re: #402 Sir John Barron
Yeah whenever I see the name “Sanders” I have to make sure which one is being talked about.
Even more confusing is that Bernie’s Press Sec was named Sanders as well and not a relation.And if I recall middle school correctly, we had a Sanders and a Saunders.
re: #411 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
only when gays, harlots and baby killers are involved
Those people… Them.
These are local channels in Puerto Rico:
Wapa seems to be having trouble at the moment.
This is the part I hate about the fracking hurricanes, the waiting….the storm prep is about done, gotta get the shutters dropped but it’s like a cave in the house when they are down
The current extended map has the Monday 8am spot like right over my house…lol
re: #406 Ace-o-aces
Utterly. Fucking. Useless.
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So wait does this mean schools can legally discriminate against gay people now?
re: #416 Eclectic Cyborg
So wait does this mean schools can legally discriminate against gay people now?
Title IX is still the law, but they can fuck around with enforcement.
re: #345 HappyWarrior
How do you talk to someone who thinks words are just words? Someone who I honestly don’t think is a bigot but is quite insensitive to the fact that words do have meaning and can hurt people?
I had to get in the car and go for a drive to mull over your question. I would do what my parents did, teach by example. He wont get it today, or tomorrow, or next week, but at some point in his life, he will get it. There is far too much name calling today. Don’t “call him out” it would harden and embolden him.
re: #417 Ace-o-aces
Title IX is still the law, but they can fuck around with enforcement.
So then they can pretty much legally discriminate against gay people?
Half /
Speaking of Bernard Sanders…
I was surprised to see a commercial with Bernie supporting Ohio Issue #2.
All summer long there have been commercials against Issue #2 run and backed by Veterans Groups, Medical Industry, Chambers of Commerce, many Democrats, etc.
So, I need to do more studying before November, but Sanders really is confusing the issues. I’ve seen polls where 50% of Ohioans have no clue what is going on.
I’m leaning no, partly out of questioning why we need this bill.
Anyone that wants to weigh in with their thinking please do!
Here is a cleveland.com article on Sanders endorsement. The comments are not too kind to Bernie.
Bernie Sanders endorses Ohio Issue 2 drug pricing measure
COLUMBUS, Ohio — Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders is throwing his support and his image behind an Ohio ballot measure that seeks to reduce state spending on prescription drugs.
Sanders was an outspoken opponent of the pharmaceutical industry during his unsuccessful Democratic Party presidential primary race and in the months since last year’s election.
Issue 2 on the November ballot would require Ohio to pay no more for prescription drugs than the the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs does.
Supporters of the proposed law say it would save the state $400 million a year on drugs bought through Medicaid, state retirement plans and other state-operated health programs. Opponents, which include professional medical associations, chambers of commerce and pharmaceutical industry backers, dispute the savings and say the measure would cause privately insured Ohioans to pay more for drugs.
Last year Sanders endorsed a similar California measure, which failed 53 to 47 percent. As in California, the Ohio measure is funded by the AIDS Healthcare Foundation.
“Ohioans have the opportunity this year to take on the greed of the drug companies and significantly lower the cost of prescription drugs,” Sanders said in a statement issued by the Yes on Issue 2 campaign. “Corporate greed has no place in the health and wellness of you and your family.”
Sanders appears in a new 30-second ad supporting the measure but doesn’t mention Ohio once. Campaign spokesman Dennis Willard confirmed the ad uses footage recorded last year during the California campaign.
Willard couldn’t say Monday whether Sanders will visit Ohio to rally support for the measure or appear in future campaign advertisements.
“Sen. Sanders has committed to this issue and will be involved,” Willard said in an interview.
Dale Butland, spokesman for opposition group Ohioans Against the Deceptive Rx Ballot Issue, said the “no on Issue 2” campaign doesn’t need celebrities to get its point across. Butland, a longtime Democratic staffer and consultant, said he voted for Sanders in Ohio’s primary and respects him, but Sanders is wrong on Issue 2.
“Everyone who has looked at this [proposed law] says it is bad public policy that would have the opposite effect of what is intended and could likely raise drug costs for a majority of Ohioans and reduce access to needed medications for our most vulnerable citizens,” Butland said.
What is Ohio Issue #2?
BallotPedia - Overview Ohio Issue # 2
What would Ohio Issue 2 do?
This initiative would require the state and state agencies, including the Ohio Department of Medicaid, to pay the same or lower prices for prescriptions drugs as the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (VA)—a department that negotiates drug prices with companies and typically pays 20 to 24 percent less than other agencies for prescription drugs.[2] Specifically, it would forbid state agencies to enter into any purchasing agreement with drug manufacturers unless the net cost of the drug is the same or less than that paid by the VA. Issue 2 would apply in any case in which the state ultimately provides funding for the purchase of drugs, even if the drugs are not purchased directly by a government agency. Examples of such cases include the Ohio Best Rx Program and the Ohio HIV Drug Assistance Program. Issue 2 would also allow the measure’s petitioners to have a direct and personal stake in defending the law from legal challenges, require the state to pay the petitioners’ reasonable legal expenses, and require the petitioners to pay $10,000 to the state if a court rules Issue 2 unenforceable.[1]
Update: #Irene remains a Potentially Catastrophic Hurricane. The point in which Irene turns N will be crucial for determining our impacts. pic.twitter.com/dNeevZUqCb
— NWS Columbia (@NWSColumbia) September 6, 2017
re: #415 Broad With Sass
This is the part I hate about the fracking hurricanes, the waiting….the storm prep is about done, gotta get the shutters dropped but it’s like a cave in the house when they are down
The current extended map has the Monday 8am spot like right over my house…lol
Two of the westernmost runs converge over ours. There are gasoline lines, long for a workday, in Baja Alabama (80 miles inland). That’s probably a good thing.
re: #422 Backwoods_Sleuth
Think that the NWS Columbia got their wires crossed - graphics are for Irma, but they’re identifying as Irene in text.
re: #424 lawhawk
Think that the NWS Columbia got their wires crossed - graphics are for Irma, but they’re identifying as Irene in text.
That happens when one gets rattled…
re: #423 Decatur Deb
That’s why we’re staying..where the hell do you go
Trump on Hurricane Irma: “It looks like it could be something that will be not good. Believe me. Not good.” (CNN) https://t.co/hTOqLHnIaG
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) September 6, 2017
This is really embarrassing. Fake POTUS is inarticulate. https://t.co/CKcKfzfKQy
— Paul Dickinson (@prdickinson) September 6, 2017
re: #418 Shropshire Slasher
I had to get in the car and go for a drive to mull over your question. I would do what my parents did, teach by example. He wont get it today, or tomorrow, or next week, but at some point in his life, he will get it. There is far too much name calling today. Don’t “call him out” it would harden and embolden him.
Thanks. I agree about living by example.
In WWII antifascists bombed German cities to molten slag. Today they, What? Break a Starbucks window?
re: #426 Broad With Sass
That’s why we’re staying..where the hell do you go
1. Birmingham
2. Niagra Falls
3. Vicksburg MS
All depending on the storm’s attitude. We sat out Opal because of work. Retirees got no reason to stay for a Cat 4-5.
Looks like Clarke and Arpaio have some serious competition for the “worst Sheriff” award.
If you go to a shelter for #Irma, be advised: sworn LEOs will be at every shelter, checking IDs. Sex offenders/predators will not be allowed
— Polk County Sheriff (@PolkCoSheriff) September 6, 2017
If you go to a shelter for #Irma and you have a warrant, we’ll gladly escort you to the safe and secure shelter called the Polk County Jail https://t.co/Qj5GX9XQBi
— Polk County Sheriff (@PolkCoSheriff) September 6, 2017
If you have a warrant, turn yourself in to the jail - it’s a secure shelter https://t.co/UFNGNafJh8
— Polk County Sheriff (@PolkCoSheriff) September 6, 2017
Florida (County Sheriff) Man.
[EDIT. Wow this is my first “someone beat me to it” on LGF! I also have to say, having seen the previous tweet (I only saw the second one, but LGF embedded the first one as well.), I can see where he’s coming from, but it’s still the wrong conclusion, and one that could lead to deaths. ]
If you go to a shelter for #Irma, be advised: sworn LEOs will be at every shelter, checking IDs. Sex offenders/predators will not be allowed
— Polk County Sheriff (@PolkCoSheriff) September 6, 2017
If you go to a shelter for #Irma and you have a warrant, we’ll gladly escort you to the safe and secure shelter called the Polk County Jail https://t.co/Qj5GX9XQBi
— Polk County Sheriff (@PolkCoSheriff) September 6, 2017
re: #421 ObserverArt
Speaking of Bernard Sanders…
I was surprised to see a commercial with Bernie supporting Ohio Issue #2.
All summer long there have been commercials against Issue #2 run and backed by Veterans Groups, Medical Industry, Chambers of Commerce, many Democrats, etc.
So, I need to do more studying before November, but Sanders really is confusing the issues. I’ve seen polls where 50% of Ohioans have no clue what is going on.
I’m leaning no, partly out of questioning why we need this bill.
Anyone that wants to weigh in with their thinking please do!
Here is a cleveland.com article on Sanders endorsement. The comments are not too kind to Bernie.
Bernie Sanders endorses Ohio Issue 2 drug pricing measure
What is Ohio Issue #2?
I’d have to look at the issue more before I decide who’s right and who’s wrong. As usual, I’m sure Sanders may have his heart in the right place but like you I do worry if eh really understands the issue.
re: #418 Shropshire Slasher
One of the big takeaways from all the empowered white supremacy these days is people of color and white anti-racists saying you need to talk to your family and friends if they are being bigoted. I think that is ridiculously important. I’ve never seen it go away by being silent and merely not doing it yourself. In fact, that type of complicity emboldens it IMO. When someone says something offensive and you do nothing they think it’s okay.
So I advised the complete opposite of you. Happy will obviously have to decide how he wants to handle it. But part of fixing this is confronting it and doing the work. It’s uncomfortable but not nearly as uncomfortable as it is for the targets of the behavior which, when allied with power is dangerous.
re: #432 Ace-o-aces
Looks like Clarke and Arpaio have some serious competition for the “worst Sheriff” award.
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re: #435 JordanRules
One of the big takeaways from all the empowered white supremacy these days is people of color and white anti-racists saying you need to talk to your family and friends if they are being bigoted. I think that is ridiculously important. I’ve never seen it go away by being silent and merely not doing it yourself. In fact, that type of complicity emboldens it IMO. When someone says something offensive and you do nothing they think it’s okay.
So I advised the complete opposite of you. Happy will obviously have to decide how he wants to handle it. But part of fixing this is confronting it and doing the work. It’s uncomfortable but not nearly as uncomfortable as it is for the targets of the behavior which, when allied with power is dangerous.
I do think living by example is key though. I do think I was for better lack of a word shaped by my grandfather’s example to my Dad and uncles.
re: #432 Ace-o-aces
Looks like Clarke and Arpaio have some serious competition for the “worst Sheriff” award.
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re: #432 Ace-o-aces
Well this asshole seems to have his priorities straight //
re: #435 JordanRules
I read this yesterday people. I have no words how it was so shocking/moving/thought provoking.
“When The Racist Is Someone You Know and Love…” by @katherinefugate https://t.co/QgzOUfFyzU#LongRead #racism #abuse
— Bz Bx (@bzbx) September 6, 2017
re: #422 Backwoods_Sleuth
Tweet has been deleted. OOPS!
re: #406 Ace-o-aces
Utterly. Fucking. Useless.
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What? Rolling back Title IX for what reason?
Do they think this is more of their bigoted racist bullshit because it offered equal protections?
Hello White Women that voted for Trump…did you play any sports in college…did you get a scholarship to college to be on a sports team?
Title IX helped get you on that team. Hell in many schools it set up the teams for women.
Uggh. Stupid. DeVos sucks.
We were worried Trump wanted to set this country back to the ’50s. We debated waht 50s…1850, 1750…1950?
I think we are going for the wild wild west. Pack yer pistols, gonna need them.
re: #442 Stanley Sea
I read this yesterday people. I have no words how it was so shocking/moving/thought provoking.
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Well we’re not really talking about a racist. I think we’re talking more insensitivity than anything. I really don’t think my loved one is a racist. I do think he could definitely be more sensitive about what racism has done and does though.
re: #445 Eclectic Cyborg
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This guy is delusional for better lack of a word. Congress couldn’t pass immigration reform when Bush was in office and the R caucus was a lot more sane in those days.
Heh. Electrician RWNJ at work came at me in front of a bunch of other contractors blathering about antifa and some dumb shit about Clarke. I told him I can’t wait til I get my chance to punch a Nazi in the fucking face. Then I told him he was unamerican because he don’t like masks on antifa. I told him this is america and I’ll wear a fucking mask wherever the hell I want and if he don’t like it he should go to NK. He then said he’d rather go to Canada. So then I told him he wouldn’t like it up there with all the socialized medicine and worker rights. Heh.
re: #445 Eclectic Cyborg
I have read other analyses that say threatening to cancel DACA is a bargaining chip to get Congress to approve funding for the Wall, which, of course, Mexico will have to pay back some day…somehow.
re: #446 ObserverArt
Waht? Rolling back Title IX for what reason?
Do they think this is more of their bigoted racist bullshit because it offered equal protections?
Hello White Women that voted for Trump…did you play any sports in college…did you get a scholarship to college to be on a sports team?
Title IX helped get you on that team. Hell in many schools it set up the teams for women.
Uggh. Stupid. DeVos sucks.
We were worried Trump wanted to set this country back to the ’50s. We debated waht 50s…1850, 1750…1950?
I think we are going for the wild wild west. Pack yer pistols, gonna need them.
Are you talking BC though? But yeah. What point other than to be a dick does this serve? Men’s programs already get a lot of attention as is.
re: #450 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I have read other analyses that say threatening to cancel DACA is a bargaining chip to get Congress to approve funding for the Wall, which, of course, Mexico will have to pay back some day…somehow.
Using the DREAMers as a chip for DACA if true shows what an even bigger asshole he is. Fuck him and his goddamned fantasy of making us East Germany.
re: #449 Amory Blaine
Heh. Electrician RWNJ at work came at me in front of a bunch of other contractors blathering about antifa and some dumb shit about Clarke. I told him I can’t wait til I get my chance to punch a Nazi in the fucking face. Then I told him he was unamerican because he don’t like masks on antifa. I told him this is america and I’ll wear a fucking mask wherever the hell I want and if he don’t like it he should go to NK. He then said he’d rather go to Canada. So then I told him he wouldn’t like it up there with all the socialized medicine and worker rights. Heh.
You remind us of the rhetorical tailspin that sets in when the Nazi/antifa argument gets set loose. Which as Steve Bannon mentioned, is just fine, it distracts from Trump quietly dismantling social progress and government services.
re: #445 Eclectic Cyborg
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re: #437 HappyWarrior
Of course you can’t talk to them about it if you’re doing it too. That to me is a given but not nearly enough.
This is something I feel really strongly about and I handle it verrry delicately around here because I know it’s a sensitive issue. In a nutshell I am flabbergasted at how many folks just casually refer to their racist or bigot friend or family. Like, how is that okay? How are we ever going to get better if folks don’t demand better?
One of the bravest things I’ve seen this year is the Dad who disowned his son for being a Charlottesville Nazi. He’ll open his arms back up when he gives up on hate but he made a huge sacrifice. I have so much respect for that man affirming everyone’s humanity over his own son’s hate. Most cases aren’t that extreme but they can get there if good people do nothing.
Hurricane looks like largest ever recorded in the Atlantic!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 6, 2017
Remember when Jim Inhofe threw a snowball in the Senate to prove that climate change wasn’t real? https://t.co/7oEi4Cb0t3
— Matt Fuller (@MEPFuller) September 6, 2017
re: #453 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
You remind us of the thetorical tailspin that sets in when the Nazi/antifa argument gets set loose. Which as Steve Bannon mentioned, is just fine, it distracts from Trump quietly dismantling social progress and government services.
Trump’s dismantling those programs even while we know about them. I don’t particularly care for the masks, but his actions haven’t been hidden.
re: #456 JordanRules
Of course you can’t talk to them about it if you’re doing it too. That to me is a given but not nearly enough.
This is something I feel really strongly about and I handle it verrry delicately around here because I know it’s a sensitive issue. In a nutshell I am flabbergasted at how many folks just casually refer to their racist or bigot friend or family. Like, how is that okay? How are we ever going to get better if folks don’t demand better?
One of the bravest things I’ve seen this year is the Dad who disowned his son for being a Charlottesville Nazi. He’ll open his arms back up when he gives up on hate but he made a huge sacrifice. I have so much respect for that man affirming everyone’s humanity over his own son’s hate. Most cases aren’t that extreme but they can get there if good people do nothing.
I can’t imagine how hard it was for that father though. BTW my other brother is the total opposite. He’s very much sensitive towards things like race. I’m hoping when he returns home he can teach the other one a thing or two.
re: #459 Belafon
Trump’s dismantling those programs even while we know about them. I don’t particularly care for the masks, but his actions haven’t been hidden.
Yeah that kind of stuff really isn’t being hidden. It may be being obscured but it’s not being hidden by any stretch. I hope the miners that love Trump enjoy working in unsafe mines regulated by people who could care less about safe mines.
re: #459 Belafon
Trump’s dismantling those programs even while we know about them. I don’t particularly care for the masks, but his actions haven’t been hidden.
agree, but we are too easily distracted by irrelevant arguments.
re: #453 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Some people aren’t interested in facts. I get down in the mud with these individuals.
Washington National Cathedral says it will remove stained glass windows honoring Confederate generals Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson.
— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) September 6, 2017
re: #458 jaunte
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What’s with Trump’s exclamation mark? Is he cheering on the hurricane? Is he excited, happy or just screaming at us?
I’m not in favor of masks either. That doesn’t matter. What matters is getting the rhetorical upper hand with these people. If I agreed with the masks with him, that would give him carte blanch to swing from antifa all the way down to MLK.
re: #465 Dragonomics
I think he’s excited about the size of the hurricane.
Our @NASAEarth satellites flew over #HurricaneIrma. We’re tracking the storm and seeing a well-defined eye. Latest: https://t.co/MkqwsQfK3I pic.twitter.com/9M1f6fM7gF
— NASA (@NASA) September 6, 2017
re: #354 HappyWarrior
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re: #442 Stanley Sea
Wow! What a great read. Thank you for sharing. I’ll definitely be passing that along.
re: #464 Backwoods_Sleuth
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I was in the National Cathedral many years ago. I didn’t know it had stained glass with Confederate Generals. WTF? What did they have to do with Christianity and a National church for ALL Americans anyway?
re: #474 ObserverArt
I was in the National Cathedral many years ago. I didn’t know it had stained glass with Confederate Generals. WTF? What did they have to do with Christianity and a National church for ALL Americans anyway?
They were both “devout Christians”.
re: #474 ObserverArt
I was in the National Cathedral many years ago. I didn’t know it had stained glass with Confederate Generals. WTF? What did they have to do with Christianity and a National church for ALL Americans anyway?
Yeah I don’t get it either. Jackson was I think a Sunday School teacher but okay Stalin was also an Orthodox seminarian.
re: #312 HappyWarrior
Kelly is a coward.
By that report, he is also for all intents and purposes the president.
I’m having a hard time responding to this comment on my FB post without cursing her out:
If Obama didn’t cut corners and actually tried to work with Congress and pass laws without executive order, this wouldn’t be happening. I hate when people blame a previous president but this is Obama’s fault. He couldn’t work with Congress, made his own rules.
How to respond to this without coming across as emotional here? *scratches head*
Today I’ll be announcing our lawsuit against President Trump to #DefendDACA @ 2:15 pm at John Jay College on 59th street. Will you join me?
— Eric Schneiderman (@AGSchneiderman) September 6, 2017
re: #469 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Yesterday the colors in Irma were bad enough, all dark reds. Now it appears some are so dark they are black. Damn. Two weeks ago Texas gets hit with a unique hurricane and now it is looking like Florida could be hit with another.
For those that ask God to send a sign…I think a sign is being sent. It’s called Climate Change and Mom Nature is pissed off and giving a demo. Are we listening?
I’d tell her to delete her account and go read a fucking book before it’s too late. :)
re: #478 electrotek
I’m having a hard time responding to this comment on my FB post without cursing her out:
How to respond to this without coming across as emotional here? *scratches head*
Point out that the Republican Congress had no desire to work with Obama at all on immigration. Point out that even if Obama was wrong to do the EO, people shouldn’t be punished because of that. And I’d point out how two faced Republicans like Rubio are on immigratio nreform too.
re: #460 HappyWarrior
Has to be extremely hard for him. Now imagine how hard it is to be the one attacked by his son or by the police or by other racists. Imagine every day knowing we have a white supremacist regime and Nazis in positions of power when you’re one of their targets. Imagine Tamir Rice’s and Trayvon Martin’s Moms.
We all have to work at this if we are to push the moral arc of the universe forward.
re: #479 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Opposition group rises in effort to slow Dallas City Council vote on Robert E. Lee statue https://t.co/fsKr8exrD7 via @dallasnews
— Sandra R Phillips (@SLRPhillips) September 6, 2017
Today in Dallas, the Lost Cause is having another in their infinite series of Last Stands.
re: #483 JordanRules
Has to be extremely hard for him. Now imagine how hard it is to be the one attacked by his son or by the police or by other racists. Imagine every day knowing we have a white supremacist regime and Nazis in positions of power when you’re one of their targets. Imagine Tamir Rice’s and Trayvon Martin’s Moms.
We all have to work at this if we are to push the moral arc of the universe forward.
Yep. The way I look at is we have to confront bigotry. If people call us SJWs or overly PC, don’t mind it, call it out.
re: #485 jaunte
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Today in Dallas, the Lost Cause is having another in their infinite series of Last Stands.
Did Robert E. Lee even ever step foot in Dallas?
Tropical Storm Jose is nearing hurricane strength behind Hurricane #Irma in the Altantic. https://t.co/bfdevMF6aC pic.twitter.com/ke42fRxAmI
— NBC Nightly News (@NBCNightlyNews) September 6, 2017
Also, Tropical Depression 13 has become Tropical Storm Katia
And Tropical Storm Katia is drifting in the southern Gulf, off the coast of Mexico. pic.twitter.com/Div1svZNnB
— NBC Nightly News (@NBCNightlyNews) September 6, 2017
re: #487 HappyWarrior
I think a lot of the former confederates and their descendants ended up scattered across North Texas.
re: #474 ObserverArt
I was in the National Cathedral many years ago. I didn’t know it had stained glass with Confederate Generals. WTF? What did they have to do with Christianity and a National church for ALL Americans anyway?
Yeah, it’s pretty weird, especially considering how liberal the Episcopal Church leadership is now.*
Not sure the whole story of how those windows came to be there, but one possible explanation is that the Anglican/Episcopal Church in America was largely centered in the South before the Civil War, so way back when there would have been sympathy for the Lost Cause in the church. I also seem to recall that those windows were sponsored by or donated by the Daughters of the Confederacy or some such group.
*I’ve been an Episcopalian for about the last 10 years.
Let a subordinate go home early today as she wad distraught that her man is in Dominican Republic and wanted to wire money for an evac. She’s back and feels all better.
re: #478 electrotek
Just ask her how President Obama could have possibly worked with that GOP congress. It was obviously impossible.
re: #486 HappyWarrior
Exactly! Call it out!
Knowing you from here, I really do think you’ll be able to help him see the light per se. You both deserve for him to do better. :)
re: #489 jaunte
I think a lot of the former confederates and their descendants ended up scattered across North Texas.
Oh I know and Texas was a CSA state. Anyhow. I love how it’s “heritage” for them them but somehow Robert E. Lee’s direct descendant’s words don’t matter to them. We needed to get over the Civil War years ago. the CSA lost and any proud American should rejoice in that but I see a lot of Americans who say our “downfall” began with Lincoln. Yes, I erally do see that.
re: #485 jaunte
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Today in Dallas, the Lost Cause is having another in their infinite series of Last Stands.
Are they praying to a false god?
“I pray to thee Robert E. Lee…save us from these leftys and tell them to let us racists be!”
re: #491 Amory Blaine
Let a subordinate go home early today as she wad distraught that her man is in Dominican Republic and wanted to wire money for an evac. She’s back and feels all better.
Hope all goes well. Scary times.
re: #473 HappyWarrior
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re: #492 EPR-radar
Just ask her how President Obama could have possibly worked with that GOP congress? It was obviously impossible.
The same GOP congress that voted unanimously against the economic relief package and the ACA and just about everything else and that publicized their desire to make Obama a one-term president? That GOP congress?
re: #493 JordanRules
Exactly! Call it out!
Knowing you from here, I really do think you’ll be able to help him see the light per se. You both deserve for him to do better. :)
I love him obviously. He’s my brother and I really don’t see him as bigoted but I am trying to get him to be more empathetic and more understanding. Our other brother as I said gets it. He’s been a witness to racism and he’s passionate about fighting how indigenous people are treated not just here in the States but around the world.
re: #494 HappyWarrior
Oh I know and Texas was a CSA state. Anyhow. I love how it’s “heritage” for them them but somehow Robert E. Lee’s direct descendant’s words don’t matter to them. We needed to get over the Civil War years ago. the CSA lost and any proud American should rejoice in that but I see a lot of Americans who say our “downfall” began with Lincoln. Yes, I erally do see that.
It’s odd that more of them don’t feel annoyed by the deliberate emotional manipulation that they’ve been subject to.
re: #489 jaunte
I think a lot of the former confederates and their descendants ended up scattered across North Texas.
They’ve infected every state with their filth.
re: #501 Amory Blaine
Sure, not exclusive to North Texas.
re: #485 jaunte
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Today in Dallas, the Lost Cause is having another in their infinite series of Last Stands.
My main connection with Lee Park is that in the late 60’s and early 70’s it represented the “best last chance” spot to score grass during the driest of times.
Can’t say I even knew there was a statue.
; )
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re: #500 jaunte
It’s odd that more of them don’t feel annoyed by the deliberate emotional manipulation that they’ve been subject to.
I always felt it was a tragedy taht the poor white farmers of the South didn’t realize their common ground with the Blacks and team up. There were small movements like that but they never lasted too long. The Readjuster movement here in Va history is something we never learn about in school.
re: #501 Amory Blaine
They’ve infected every state with their filth.
It’s always so weird for me as a Virginian to see CSA flags and memorials in Union states. Me? I’ve always been proud to be a descendant of an Army of the Potomac veteran. I’ve even thought about applying for membership in a Union descendant group.
re: #505 HappyWarrior
I always felt it was a tragedy taht the poor white farmers of the South didn’t realize their common ground with the Blacks and team up. There were small movements like that but they never lasted too long. The Readjuster movement here in Va history is something we never learn about in school.
Because the trick of the ruling classes is to play the poorer classes off against each other. Works like a charm: look at what England did with its Irish and Ulster Protestants…
i hope all white supremacists end up being as dumb as @bakedalaska pic.twitter.com/Yh4SNEjGAv
— KRANG T. NELSON (@KrangTNelson) September 6, 2017
Public Citizen looks at the maze that is Trump’s business structure.
MUST READ: Public Citizen has published a report on Trump’s business structure - ripe for global money laundering. https://t.co/0P8dZZnveb
— Eric Garland (@ericgarland) September 6, 2017
Call me a bad American but while I’ll always see myself as an American, I’m really starting to see myself more as a citizen of the world type. My SiL is from Peru. I have cousins with dual Brit/American citizenship. And I have other cousins who I’ve gotten to know who still live where my family emigrated from in Europe.
re: #407 lawhawk
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Yeah, someone cue the bible thumpers who say that storm X hitting Y is proof that the people there are wicked/evil and need to change their evil ways.
Someone will just post a ‘before’ picture of Trump’s place and say that it was miraculously spared by Irma. 4 million morons will retweet it as a true fact.
re: #507 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Because the trick of the ruling classes is to play the poorer classes off against each other. Works like a charm: look at what England did with its Irish and Ulster Protestants…
Oh believe me, I know it. And you’re right. That is what happened in Ulster. “Sure, you’re a poor farmer but at least you’re not a Papist tenant.”
re: #507 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Look what its doing to the WWC lashing out at everyone around them.
re: #510 HappyWarrior
Call me a bad American but while I’ll always see myself as an American, I’m really starting to see myself more as a citizen of the world type. My SiL is from Peru. I have cousins with dual Brit/American citizenship. And I have other cousins who I’ve gotten to know who still live where my family emigrated from in Europe.
That is my motto: “World citizen of American origin”. Proud of the latter but not the point of being bigoted or chauvinistic about it.
re: #514 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I love that phrasing! Stolen!
re: #514 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
That is my motto: “World citizen of American origin”. Proud of the latter but not the point of being bigoted or chauvinistic about it.
Exactly, I’m no better than anyone from happening to be born here. Proud to be American but I’m proud of a lot of other things too.
re: #513 Amory Blaine
Look what its doing to the WWC lashing out at everyone around them.
NO doubt you’ve seen the LBJ quote. I don’t think any politician in the 20th century had a better understanding of voter psychology than LBJ.
re: #473 HappyWarrior
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re: #487 HappyWarrior
Did Robert E. Lee even ever step foot in Dallas?
Possibly, if it was a staging area for the Mexican War.
Dammit, there is a hurricane outside and I left my car’s trunk open…
re: #518 BeachDem
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I listened to some of this last night:
TODAY: John Le Carré, author of ‘Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy,’ on his new spy novel. Le Carré worked for British Intelligence Services.
— Fresh Air (@nprfreshair) September 5, 2017
It was such a weird feeling towards the end to have John Le Carré commenting on current events. So appropriate, it was almost comforting, yet horrifying at the same time.
“It was a very competitive set of applications, but in the end we went with the guy who assaulted a reporter.” https://t.co/RJ2XE6y49w
— Daniel W. Drezner (@dandrezner) September 5, 2017
Live from St. Marten https://t.co/DDvuPafpxP
— Diane K. Kovacs (@DianeKovacs) September 6, 2017
re: #478 electrotek
I’m having a hard time responding to this comment on my FB post without cursing her out:
How to respond to this without coming across as emotional here? *scratches head*
Read her these two quotes from 2010:
Here’s John Boehner, the likely speaker if Republicans take the House, offering his plans for Obama’s agenda: “We’re going to do everything — and I mean everything we can do — to kill it, stop it, slow it down, whatever we can.”
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell summed up his plan to National Journal: “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”
re: #485 jaunte
They’re praying around that statue, aren’t they?
Jesus save us from your professional followers.
re: #510 HappyWarrior
Call me a bad American but while I’ll always see myself as an American, I’m really starting to see myself more as a citizen of the world type. My SiL is from Peru. I have cousins with dual Brit/American citizenship. And I have other cousins who I’ve gotten to know who still live where my family emigrated from in Europe.
My son lives in Canada and his children are Canadian. My daughter lives in Israel and her kids are Israeli. Three of my kids are dual Israeli-Americans. One of my sons married a Russian and one married an Australian. My youngest daughter married a Brit.
We are global!
re: #527 The Vicious Babushka
My son lives in Canada and his children are Canadian. My daughter lives in Israel and her kids are Israeli. Two of my kids are dual Israeli-Americans. One of my sons married a Russian and one married an Australian. My youngest daughter married a Brit.
We are global!
You have such a lovely family. It really is cool how they have all that.
Do not listen to @rushlimbaugh when he says #Irma is not a dangerous #storm and is hype. He is putting people’s lives at risk
— Al Roker (@alroker) September 6, 2017
JUST IN: House passes bill to provide $7.85 billion in emergency funding for Harvey recovery by vote of 419-3 pic.twitter.com/IXn7hG6bxP
— NBC News (@NBCNews) September 6, 2017
Still waiting for Barbuda update.
The all-clear has been given, so hopefully first responders can check on Barbuda #Irma https://t.co/0MLqkZCUlJ
— Meredith S (@obey_my_dog) September 6, 2017
ummmmmm
AP: Trump Jr. to speak privately to Senate staff: https://t.co/XRylGycbnG pic.twitter.com/dRtQ3QgOsb
— Local 12/WKRC-TV (@Local12) September 6, 2017
Heh
Shouldn’t that be “Kelly and I”?
— SpinDoctor (@SpinDr) September 6, 2017
It should just be Kelly… if he’s being honest.
— JC (@JCrock_) September 6, 2017
re: #529 Ace-o-aces
I was wondering how Rush would react to Al Roker calling him out, so I went to check his Twitter. Last tweet from the fat man was April 2016. Way to stay on top of the evolving media landscape there Rush.
He doesn’t care. When he drops turds like that liberals have to fall all over themselves providing data and facts that his base will ignore anyways. And no one but the base believes anything that comes out of his fat fucking piehole.
We’re at state of thing where glad to see the President using one of the less expensive 757 (C-32) aircraft available to him.
Reality is that they’re likely using it because it has better short field characteristics needed Bismark Airport.
Pres. Trump departs Joint Base Andrews for flight to North Dakota for tax reform event. https://t.co/uTT8K3OVKv pic.twitter.com/Qcf3sQFU3o
— NBC Nightly News (@NBCNightlyNews) September 6, 2017
re: #529 Ace-o-aces
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re: #530 lawhawk
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my congresscritter Massie was one of the “nays”.
Other two were Amash (Mich) and Biggs (Az)
re: #530 lawhawk
Flies right through for red states..
re: #530 lawhawk
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The nays:
Thomas Massie (R-Ky.)
Justin Amash (R-Mich.)
Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.)
(Sleuth—you must be so proud)/
re: #530 lawhawk
JUST IN: House passes bill to provide $7.85 billion in emergency funding for Harvey recovery by vote of 419-3 pic.twitter.com
— NBC News (@NBCNews) September 6, 2017
Let me guess, Rand Paul was 1 of the 3 fucktards?
edit: Never mind. Brain fart.
Lre: #540 Backwoods_Sleuth
my congresscritter Massie was one of the “nays”.
Other two were Amash (Mich) and Biggs (Az)
Not shocked at either as Amash and Massie from the Ron Paul School of fuck y’all. Don’t know Biggs tho.
re: #7 austin_blue
Underneath that circulation is a 35’ tall bubble of water that she is dragging with her until she hits land.
Light blue areas are between 5m-10m above sea level.
Darker blue areas, that aren’t currently ocean, are less than 5m above sea level.
re: #545 HappyWarrior
He’s not in the House.
Refresh my comment. I made an edit. Had a momentary brain fart.
re: #537 FormerDirtDart
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Remember, Heidi Heitkamp is flying with him. Nothing good can come of that.
$27 MILLION!
Thanks in part to an incredibly generous $5 million donation from Mr. Charles Butt at HEB. https://t.co/SR6DmnNbyM— JJ Watt (@JJWatt) September 6, 2017
re: #551 FormerDirtDart
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Watt’s a great guy. Glad to have his younger brother on the Steelers.
Amash and Massey are again showing why the Ron Paul model of goverance should neve rhappen here.
At one of my dinner parties a couple weeks back I told the wingnuts with the vapors for Lee statues that I’d like to see them melted down into beautiful toilets for public (trans) bathrooms.
re: #554 Amory Blaine
At one of my dinner parties a couple weeks back I told the wingnuts with the vapors for Lee statues that I’d like to see them melted down into beautiful toilets for public (trans) bathrooms.
You rule dude.
Heh. I suspect my circle is closing in on a dot. But I’ve had it in my old age. I don’t need to waste my energy defending principles. Its much more satisfying to go for the throat and take it from there.
re: #557 Amory Blaine
Heh. I suspect my circle is closing in on a dot. But I’ve had it in my old age. I don’t need to waste my energy defending principles. Its much more satisfying to go for the throat and take it from there.
No doubt you’ve seen me say I want NRO’s office space turned into a newspaper for LGBT minorities.
re: #540 Backwoods_Sleuth
my congresscritter Massie was one of the “nays”.
Other two were Amash (Mich) and Biggs (Az)
Sure, I can be just one of 435 members of the House, or I can get noticed. When people later ask who were the three members who voted “nah”, they’ll have to say my name.
Anyone know about any marches going on maybe in Ryan’s district or SE Wisconsin in general?
re: #559 Sir John Barron
Sure, I can be just one of 435 members of the House, or I can get noticed. When people later ask who were the three members who voted “nah”, they’ll have to say my name.
I really think Massey and Amash are that big dicks. Again why the paleolibertarian world view sucks monkey balls.
From Dr. Masters’ blog:
None of our reliable models bring Irma any further west than the Florida Panhandle, so the chance of Irma moving deeply into the central or western Gulf is increasingly remote. A track that curves north and stays just east of Florida is also possible; such a track could still bring Irma into the East Coast at a point further north early next week. Figures 6, 7 and 8 below show the range of possibilities in ensemble model guidance from Tuesday night (ensemble models include a number of parallel forecasts that reflect the uncertainty in a given weather situation).
In short, computer guidance is in strong agreement that Irma will make at least one landfall somewhere from Florida to North Carolina during the weekend or early next week. The official NHC forecast track as of 11 am Wednesday brings Irma from near Miami to near Daytona Beach from Sunday morning to Monday morning. The 12Z Tuesday run of the GFS model predicts that Irma will hit Miami on Sunday afternoon, then make a second landfall near the Georgia/South Carolina border on Monday afternoon, with both landfalls occurring with at least Category 4 strength.
Emphasis added is mine.
Typically, a storm that makes landfall will see significant weakening due to the interaction with land causing shear and weakening of the inflow/outflow into the eye of the storm. That it’s going to likely retain Cat 4 strength with not one but two landfalls on the East Coast of Florida into GA/SC shows just how dangerous this storm is.
Then there’s the storm surge and the massive amount of water that the storm is pushing ahead of it - 15-20 feet storm surges predicted in coming days as the storm barrels through the Bahamas.
Just in: Pelosi and Schumer reached agreement w/ Trump to pass Harvey aid and raise debt limit through Dec. 15. pic.twitter.com/l6x5Y6o6XP
— Caroline O. (@RVAwonk) September 6, 2017
NEW: Ty Cobb says in leaked emails that he&Kelly are the “adults in the room”—and explains why he’s repping Trump https://t.co/dFoOIrHwOU
— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) September 6, 2017
Cobb and Kelly are “adults in the room”? Cobb isn’t even part of the admin, that means just one member of @realDonaldTrump’s admin is adult https://t.co/Nlmv60U91X
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) September 6, 2017
re: #552 HappyWarrior
Watt’s a great guy. Glad to have his younger brother on the Steelers.
You said Steelers. Grrrrrr.
re: #561 HappyWarrior
I really think Massey and Amash are that big dicks. Again why the paleolibertarian world view sucks monkey balls.
I have noticed that Amash will go against Drumpf and the GOP line from time to time. I guess that’s his Libertarianism, which I wouldn’t want to live under generally, but which does occasionally sound commendable.
re: #537 FormerDirtDart
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In the midst of a double hurricane crisis, the president* is spending time working on a tax reduction for himself.
re: #566 ObserverArt
You said Steelers. Grrrrrr.
Can take the family out of Pittsburgh but can’t take the Pittsburgh out of the family.
re: #568 jaunte
In the midst of a double hurricane crisis, the president* is spending time working on a tax reduction for himself.
“Today was the day when Trump became Pr….”
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re: #569 HappyWarrior
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re: #564 lawhawk
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raise debt limit through Dec. 15
whew! glad were done talking about that for a while!
How it went down, per source:
-GOP pushed for 18 mo debt limit hike. Then 6 mo
-Dems dismissed 6 mo. Pitched 3 mo
-Trump then agreed to 3 mo— Sarah Ferris (@sarahnferris) September 6, 2017
The worst negotiators in history (otherwise known as Republicans) have just offered to suspend debt ceiling for four months. Pathetic!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 22, 2013
Today, @realDonaldTrump appears to have taken deal to extend the debt ceiling for 3 months & do #Harvey aid. There’s a tweet for all he does https://t.co/zsGog8r84x
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) September 6, 2017
And just in case we don’t have enough on our plates today…
We are in an X9.3-flare folks! Largest of this #solar cycle! Massive #hamradio blackout. #GPS issues too on dayside of Earth (colors in map) pic.twitter.com/Mragy4sE1S
— Dr. Tamitha Skov (@TamithaSkov) September 6, 2017
re: #573 lawhawk
The worst negotiators in history (otherwise known as Republicans) have just offered to suspend debt ceiling for four months. Pathetic!
— Donald J. Trump
Trump didn’t understand the meaning of words back then either.
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Rep Steve King to @kasie re DACA kids: “They came here to live inthe shadows & we’re not denying them that opportunity to live inthe shadows
— Doug Adams (@DougNBC) September 6, 2017
re: #576 FormerDirtDart
Steve King:
I will not be IGNORED!
House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes lashed out at Attorney General Jeff Sessions last week in a letter where he threatened Sessions with a public grilling if he doesn’t produce documents about the Russia dossier to the House intelligence committee.
Nunes, who despite stepping aside from directing the House Russia investigation has been leading his own separate investigation, accused Sessions and the FBI of stonewalling him repeatedly in a September 1 letter obtained by CNN. In the letter, he threatened to drag Sessions and FBI Director Christopher Wray before the committee for a public grilling and hold them in contempt of Congress — a jailable offense — if they don’t hand over the documents.
The House intelligence committee issued a pair of subpoenas last month seeking documentation of whether the FBI or Justice Department used material from the dossier compiled by former British intelligence agent Christopher Steele as part of the federal investigation into possible collusion between the campaign of President Donald Trump and the Kremlin. Nunes also writes that he subpoenaed to discover whether information from the Russia dossier was used in the crafting of applications to conduct surveillance under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
In the letter, which was signed only by Nunes and no other members of the House intelligence committee, Nunes explained that he was extending the deadline for responding to the subpoenas to September 14. But he capped it off with a sharp threat.
So, the guy who’s recused from the investigation is threatening the guy who is recused from the investigation. As someone said at Daily Kos, he’s doing this to find out what Meuller is up to so he can report it to the White House.
re: #576 FormerDirtDart
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They didn’t come here to live in the shadows you stupid hick. They serve in the military that you never did. They sacrifice in ways you never will. They love our country unlike you.
re: #578 Belafon
So, the guy who’s recused from the investigation is threatening the guy who is recused from the investigation. As someone said at Daily Kos, he’s doing this to find out what Meuller is up to so he can report it to the White House.
Wouldn’t Sessions just tell the WH what it knows about Mueller?
White Christians are now a minority of the U.S. population, survey says https://t.co/EEKaoYR0C0
— PBS NewsHour (@NewsHour) September 6, 2017
re: #581 b.d. (bill d.)
Why would the dems only want a 3 month extension?
I’m wondering what they got back from Trump.
re: #564 lawhawk
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Just spoke to a top Republican close to leadership about Trump’s decision. Here’s what they said: pic.twitter.com/iV2y0bVfvk
— Jonathan Swan (@jonathanvswan) September 6, 2017
House Dem aide on this news: “This is why we didn’t get rid of Pelosi. Went into their stadium and kicked their asses up and down the field” https://t.co/44ZDiogaIA
— Jeff Stein (@JStein_Vox) September 6, 2017
re: #578 Belafon
So, the guy who’s recused from the investigation is threatening the guy who is recused from the investigation. As someone said at Daily Kos, he’s doing this to find out what Meuller is up to so he can report it to the White House.
I hope Devin Nunes get’s fried in this whole investigation. He’s up to no good and seems to be operating on his own. How the hell does this happen? I can’t think of anything like this ever in DC politics.
re: #583 FormerDirtDart
White Christians are now a minority of the U.S. population, survey says
Let the persecution begin! Heh.
re: #582 Sir John Barron
Wouldn’t Sessions just tell the WH what it knows about Mueller?
The thinking goes that by threatening Sessions, Sessions will be forced to reengage in the investigation. The problem is, Nunes really can’t arrest administration officials due to separation of powers.
re: #535 Ace-o-aces
I was wondering how Rush would react to Al Roker calling him out, so I went to check his Twitter. Last tweet from the fat man was April 2016. Way to stay on top of the evolving media landscape there Rush.
Rush just mentioned the interview Roker gave about crapping his pants.
i hope all white supremacists end up being as dumb as @bakedalaska pic.twitter.com/Yh4SNEjGAv
— KRANG T. NELSON (@KrangTNelson) September 6, 2017
re: #585 BeachDem
House Dem aide on this news: “This is why we didn’t get rid of Pelosi. Went into their stadium and kicked their asses up and down the field”
— Jeff Stein
Not sure why a Dem aide would say this. Especially if they have to revisit the issue in three months.
re: #585 BeachDem
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Trump says he thinks Congress wants to take care of DACA.
“Chuck and Nancy want to see something happen and so do I,” he tells press on AF1.— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) September 6, 2017
Chuck and Nancy has me 🤣 https://t.co/OcmByufY0n
— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) September 6, 2017
re: #594 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Aww he’s got his balls in a vase since he’s not using a stupid nickname here.
Grand Jury Indicts Texas Attorney General, Ken Paxton, on Felony Charges https://t.co/tb3RICkzGk
— John Stoehr (@johnastoehr) September 6, 2017
On that Nunes subpoena…
“The letter, which was signed only by Nunes and no other members… [includes] a sharp threat.”
https://t.co/MkYXC2epax— Steve Inskeep (@NPRinskeep) September 6, 2017
Doesn’t subpoena from a committee have to be voted on by the committee? I don’t Think Nunes can subpoena anything without a committee vote. https://t.co/IZk8kv2gIB
— Howard Dean (@GovHowardDean) September 6, 2017
The @MiamiHerald’s paywall is down & we’re sending weather alerts as they happen. Sign up for those here: https://t.co/lbuFHADfII
— Miami Herald (@MiamiHerald) September 6, 2017
re: #597 makeitstop
On that Nunes subpoena…
Since he’s recused, this is technically coming from the Nunes committee, which he’s the only member.
re: #596 Kragar
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He wouldn’t be eligible for DACA but because he lucked out of his mommy’s vagina here in the US.
re: #583 FormerDirtDart
PBS NewsHour ✔ @NewsHour
White Christians are now a minority of the U.S. population, survey says to.pbs.org
How odd that I’m an old white guy who’s now a part of the new majority. :)
re: #599 Belafon
Since he’s recused, this is technically coming from the Nunes committee, which he’s the only member.
I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if he offered that as a justification, TBH.
Aide with knowledge: “Toward the end of the meeting Ivanka Trump entered the Oval Office to ‘say hello’ and the meeting careened off topic.”
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) September 6, 2017
“careened”
re: #595 HappyWarrior
Aww he’s got his balls in a vase since he’s not using a stupid nickname here.
Indeed. No ‘Cryin’ Chuck’ today. He got hosed.
re: #603 jaunte
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“careened”
Can Ivanka stay the fuck out of the Oval Office, please? So sick of her.
re: #604 makeitstop
Indeed. No ‘Cryin’ Chuck’ today. He got hosed.
He’s so precious when he’s got his balls cut.
re: #605 HappyWarrior
Ivanka Penetrates Kelly’s Prevent Defense.
re: #603 jaunte
Ivanka clearly knows she has to check on her father constantly during the day.
Yet the Republicans refuse to accept that Trump is not competent.
Even when Trump just gives in the minority party for who knows what reason - maybe he got hungry and wanted to go to KFC? - the GOP won’t do anything.
re: #607 jaunte
Ivanka Penetrates Kelly’s Prevent Defense.
Ivanka reminds me of those Central Asian dictatorship daughters who have no qualifications outside being the apple of strongman’s eye.
re: #580 HappyWarrior
Worse than Gohmert, no joke.
Steve King might well be the most despicable Republican lifeform—and it was a hard-fought battle.
re: #610 BeachDem
Steve King might well be the most despicable Republican lifeform—and it was a hard-fought battle.
If I ever met him, it would be hard not to want to punch him in the face. He’s such a pathetic bigot.
re: #595 HappyWarrior
Aww he’s got his balls in a vase since he’s not using a stupid nickname here.
PIVOT!
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Scramble!
Takeoff! An absolutely amazing job here by @Delta forecasters, dispatchers, flight and ground crews. Full flight back up to JFK.#Irma pic.twitter.com/sSulqA8g7t
— Jason Rabinowitz (@AirlineFlyer) September 6, 2017
re: #605 HappyWarrior
Can Ivanka stay the fuck out of the Oval Office, please? So sick of her.
Awww. she just wanted to sit on daddy’s lap like in the old days.
I thought this was promising until I read the story.
Devin Nunes loses it with Jeff Sessions — demands Russia dossier intel and threatens to hold him in contempt https://t.co/PH3ZVy6NLc
— Raw Story (@RawStory) September 6, 2017
re: #597 makeitstop
Doesn’t subpoena from a committee have to be voted on by the committee? I don’t Think Nunes can subpoena anything without a committee vote
Blah blah blah ‘new rules’ blah blah blah
re: #615 MsJ
Nunes might as well have a neon “White House Mole” sign floating over his head.
re: #615 MsJ
I thought this was promising until I read the story.
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Nunes trying to save his own ass? He was part of the transition team.
re: #610 BeachDem
Steve King might well be the most despicable Republican lifeform—and it was a hard-fought battle.
This Steve King…dressed in his favorite duds.
re: #618 HappyWarrior
Nunes trying to save his own ass? He was part of the transition team.
He does behave like a guilty man, doesn’t he?
re: #620 makeitstop
He does behave like a guilty man, doesn’t he?
Or someone who’s up to his ass in alligators and doesn’t know how to get out of the swamp. Dead politician walking.
“The letter, which was signed only by Nunes and no other members… [includes] a sharp threat.”
https://t.co/MkYXC2epax— Steve Inskeep (@NPRinskeep) September 6, 2017
Doesn’t subpoena from a committee have to be voted on by the committee? I don’t Think Nunes can subpoena anything without a committee vote. https://t.co/IZk8kv2gIB
— Howard Dean (@GovHowardDean) September 6, 2017
re: #620 makeitstop
He does behave like a guilty man, doesn’t he?
Everyone in DC seems to know he is dirty and yet he goes on. Something very strange indeed is going on with Nunes.
And I bet that other GOP creep in California, Rohrabacher, knows what it is.
“I tried to subpoena them, boss, but the committee wouldn’t let me!”
re: #608 freetoken
Even when Trump just gives in the minority party for who knows what reason - maybe he got hungry and wanted to go to KFC? - the GOP won’t do anything.
He had a plane to catch.
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re: #625 makeitstop
He had a plane to catch.
/
I just wandered over to Freeperville, and nothing. Nada. Maybe it’s just too new a story, but then again, they’re usually right on it when something happens.
Maybe they haven’t figured out how to spin it yet.
re: #569 HappyWarrior
Can take the family out of Pittsburgh but can’t take the Pittsburgh out of the family.
Baja Alabama has a Stillers bar.
re: #627 Dr Lizardo
There’s no way to spin it other than Trump can’t hold his concentration long enough.
Federal Reserve Vice Chairman Stanley Fischer will resign next month for personal reasons, leaving a fourth vacancy on the seven-member Fed governing board.
Fischer is a widely-respected economist who taught at MIT and was head of the Bank of Israel for eight years. His unexpected departure adds to a leadership vacuum at the top of the Fed as it navigates a difficult path. Fischer, 73, is a close confidant of Fed Chair Janet Yellen, whose own term ends in February
The U.S. central bank is slowly raising interest rates as the economy grows and unemployment falls. Yet inflation remains below the Fed’s target, complicating its future course.
Fischer has been a member of the Fed’s Board of Governors since May 2014. His term as vice chairman was set to expire next June. In a letter to President Donald Trump , he said his resignation would occur on or around Oct. 13.
Now this here is one of those stories where the headline will make you do a double-take.
LOLOL
On National #ReadABookDay I encourage everyone to read a book. Let every page educate you & take you on an exciting journey!
— Melania Trump (@FLOTUS) September 6, 2017
Savage @POTUS subtweet from @FLOTUS. https://t.co/rFSbC0G950
— Full Frontal (@FullFrontalSamB) September 6, 2017
re: #628 Decatur Deb
Baja Alabama has a Stillers bar.
My cousin married a Pittsburgh gal and his daughter married a Pittsburgh guy. People wonder why there’s so many Stillers fans, it’s because like Hsnk Snow, we’ve been everywhere man.
re: #434 HappyWarrior
I’d have to look at the issue more before I decide who’s right and who’s wrong. As usual, I’m sure Sanders may have his heart in the right place but like you I do worry if eh really understands the issue.
Assumption. Not in evidence.
So, has the wingnut mob started shrieking in unison about American Horror Story yet?
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 6, 2017
re: #628 Decatur Deb
Baja Alabama has a Stillers bar.
Is it called “The Bandwagon Inn?”
We have those in Columbus. Got Penguins fans in there too.
🚨 ALERT: McCain has flipped on ACA repeal. All hands on deck. We need to pummel them for the next 24 days. 🚨https://t.co/naYmFtULJg
— Topher Spiro (@TopherSpiro) September 6, 2017
re: #631 Dr Lizardo
Now this here is one of those stories where the headline will make you do a double-take.
LOLOL
Just for that…
Decide to post an unsolicited dik dik pic… pic.twitter.com/X7zp0vvidt
— Banjo Lizard (@banjolizard55) August 23, 2017
re: #634 MsJ
Assumption. Not in evidence.
I am not as cynical as you are about him. I think he’s well intentioned but very egocentric and not as savvy as he thinks.
re: #636 ObserverArt
Is it called “The Bandwagon Inn?”
We have those in Columbus. Got Penguins fans in there too.
Nope, another chain—Beef O’Brady’s.
re: #635 Charles Johnson
Is it good? I haven’t watched any since the circus.
re: #636 ObserverArt
Is it called “The Bandwagon Inn?”
We have those in Columbus. Got Penguins fans in there too.
Don’t hate.
The U.S. is on track to record the second-lowest crime levels since 1990, according to a new report https://t.co/AgM8J3Q6Ap pic.twitter.com/FHIsdaf3ps
— New York Daily News (@NYDailyNews) September 6, 2017
re: #644 FormerDirtDart
The U.S. is on track to record the second-lowest crime levels since 1990, according to a new report
Because all those illegals are afraid of getting caught and deported!!!
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Trump’s campaign is now selling “Presidential Medals” https://t.co/beHqPP5CKG pic.twitter.com/WxD6PWi2PU
— Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) September 6, 2017
re: #646 jaunte
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re: #649 jaunte
“Gold-tone metal”
Anyone who’s dumb enough to pay 45 bucks for that is fucking stupid.
re: #650 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Time to get America back on the gold-tone standard!!!
That would be the Ron Paul coin.
re: #652 HappyWarrior
Anyone who’s dumb enough to pay 45 bucks for that is fucking stupid.
I am wondering how many Yuan it costs to produce…
In other news, half of one of New York’s most popular sports radio duos was arrested this morning and charged with fraud.
Craig Carton, co-host of the popular WFAN sports talk radio show “Boomer and Carton,” was arrested Wednesday and charged with multiple counts of wire and securities fraud for allegedly running a “Ponzi-like” ticket scheme with millions in investors funds.
Carton, 48, was arrested early Wednesday along with 41-year-old alleged co-conspirator Michael Wright, according to a joint statement from the FBI and the Manhattan U.S. Attorney.
The men allegedly ran an elaborate ticket scam by creating fake companies to negotiate the re-sale of entertainment tickets. They then allegedly used investors funds to pay off personal debts, officials said.
According to the criminal complaint, Carton and Wright allegedly began the scheme in 2016, after Carton “accrued millions of dollars’ worth of gambling-related debts.”
I’m not shedding a tear for this guy. He’s pretty much the poster boy for Sports Radio Assholes.
re: #642 HappyWarrior
Don’t hate.
You don’t live three hours from the ‘burgh and have to put up with the loudmouth Steelers and Penguins fans. And they can be very obnoxious, especially with a few beers in them.
A bunch of Penguins fans got tossed out of Nationwide Arena last year for starting fights in the stands with Blue Jacket fans.
I know they are successful, their fans don’t have to be asses about it.
re: #656 ObserverArt
You don’t live three hours from the ‘burgh and have to put up with the loudmouth Steelers and Penguins fans. And they can be very obnoxious, especially with a few beers in them.
A bunch of Penguins fans got tossed out of Nationwide Arena last year for starting fights in the stands with Blue Jacket fans.
I know they are successful, their fans don’t have to be asses about it.
Heh I’m just busting your balls. I know how obnoxious Pittsburgh fans can be. But actually I do since we have a lot of STeelers fans down here.
re: #644 FormerDirtDart
Violent crime in NYC drops to record low https://t.co/FWFsBGZL7U pic.twitter.com/JWyckMosXh
— PIX11 News (@PIX11News) September 6, 2017
re: #465 Dragonomics
What’s with Trump’s exclamation mark? Is he cheering on the hurricane? Is he excited, happy or just screaming at us?
Top of the muffin TO YOU!
re: #646 jaunte
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Wow that’s some cheapass shit right there. Is it made in China or in some 3rd world shithole conquered by Eric Prince?
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