Olbermann: Trump’s DACA Decision Is a Grim Turning Point
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The opportunists in the GOP who enable these racist moves will face a reckoning.
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You can’t make this up: Trump ‘election integrity’ commission allegedly uses personal email for government business https://t.co/6UazRDZsQo
— Ari Berman (@AriBerman) September 6, 2017
I’m glad he’s calling out the other Republicans too.
An utterly ridiculous misleading headline: “Clinton blasts Biden for saying Dems didn’t address middle class” https://t.co/JUH7Vf3I5z
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 6, 2017
She didn’t “blast” Joe Biden at all. This was actually nothing more than mild criticism.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 6, 2017
I’m told by the time Ivanka came into wh meeting GOP leaders were shellshocked by @POTUS cutting unexpected deal w Dems in front of them
— Dana Bash (@DanaBashCNN) September 6, 2017
re: #5 jaunte
I thought it was only his short attention span.
Now, perhaps another scenario - Trump wanted to humiliate the Congressional Republicans?
re: #4 Charles Johnson
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Hillary’s not allowed to defend herself according to certain people. I’ve never been a huge fan of hers but she has every right to defend herself.
re: #5 jaunte
So when does the GOP start thinking “now its time to impeach this fucker”?
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I betcha he has an Ivanka panic button in his jacket.
He hits it in time of need.
re: #10 Amory Blaine
PSA: Every Member of Congress From Florida Who Voted Against Hurricane Sandy Aid
All Republicans. What a shock.
re: #8 jaunte
Or doesn’t know what he’s doing.
Well, if it is senility, maybe for a few minutes there he thought the Democrats ran Congress.
re: #11 Kragar
So when does the GOP start thinking “now its time to impeach this fucker”?
When he starts hurting their chances to retain power.
re: #4 Charles Johnson
Like the headlines of “Obama slams Trump” over DACA. Uh no, he merely pointed out the obvious.
re: #11 Kragar
I don’t think they’re smart enough to understand yet that they can’t steer the mad elephant.
BREAKING: U.S.-drafted U.N. Security Council resolution seen by Reuters seeks to impose oil embargo on North Korea pic.twitter.com/dZTQ1qoUng
— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) September 6, 2017
MORE: Draft U.N. resolution seeks to impose an asset freeze, travel ban on North Korean leader Kim Jong Un
— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) September 6, 2017
The theory’s not insane, but the president… well…
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 6, 2017
re: #16 Amory Blaine
Like the headlines of “Obama slams Trump” over DACA. Uh no, he merely pointed out the obvious.
Right and Hillary was merely defending herself. I don’t know where the idea that Hillary didn’t speak on issues important to the Middle Class comes from. She totally did. A lot of people weren’t listening because she didn’t do it in the rhetoric they may have liked but she certainly did.
News: Charges dropped agst WV reporter arrested for seeking to question HHS Secy Price, as prosecutors say behavior “not unlawful”
— David Folkenflik (@davidfolkenflik) September 6, 2017
Turns out it’s not unlawful to question public officials. https://t.co/aHvcoyrxYo
— Bradley Peniston (@navybook) September 6, 2017
Anyhow Re: Hillary. She’s allowed to write her side of the story. And I’m sorry but I don’t want to hear complaints about her dividing the party from people who constantly threaten to go to the Greens when things don’t go their way. And I don’t like Sanders being treated like he did nothing to merit criticism in the primaries and GE and that he was totally innocent. The Clinton campaign did some stuff I disagreed with, I for example was really rubbed the wrong way by Gloria Steinhem’s suggestion that young women who liked Bernie were just doing it to impress men but you know what, I had a bigger problem with actual Candidate Sanders dismissing Soutehrn states as being Republican anyhow and not respecting the minority electorate of those states.
Unfortunately the latest Euro is similar to other guidance in having a worst-case scenario for FL’s East Coast into the Carolinas #Irma pic.twitter.com/bsn42XGKB3
— Ed Vallee 🌽 (@EdValleeWx) September 6, 2017
😱OMG😱
New Hurricane #Irma forecast is the worst one yet. Florida’s entire east coast & the Carolinas face potentially devastating impact. https://t.co/6bGB0eCjaZ— Dr. Dena Grayson (@DrDenaGrayson) September 6, 2017
NEWS — TRUMP agrees to 3-month debt limit increase in meeting w hill leaders. All GOP leaders were opposed, per multiple sources.
— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) September 6, 2017
Not so alarmed at Trump’s reversal. Much more alarmed by “GOP leaders were opposed.” Opposed… to raising the limit? If so, they’re insane. https://t.co/40XCAxcrCS
— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) September 6, 2017
re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth
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This is why we needed Clinton in charge. Not Trump, not Kasich, not Bernie but Hillary. Someone who actually would know what to do and have capable people in a situation like that. But hey economic anxiety! Good to see you BWS by the way.
He fucks everyone!
Statement from Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) on the fiscal deal is just one sentence: “The Pelosi-Schumer-Trump deal is bad.”
— Jenna Johnson (@wpjenna) September 6, 2017
re: #26 HappyWarrior
This is why we needed Clinton in charge. Not Trump, not Kasich, not Bernie but Hillary. Someone who actually would know what to do and have capable people in a situation like that. But hey economic anxiety! Good to see you BWS by the way.
I’ve got a halfway decent internet connection today.
MrBWS is home briefly this afternoon to help me get prepped here for colder weather moving in before he leaves Saturday morning for the hurricane.
Chain of events in the DACA, debt ceiling is batcrap insane.
GOP calls for 18 month extension; goes down to 6 months
Pelosi/Schumer say 3 months - and Trump agrees, with the Dem leadership.
How it went down, per source:
-GOP pushed for 18 mo debt limit hike. Then 6 mo
-Dems dismissed 6 mo. Pitched 3 mo
-Trump then agreed to 3 mo— Sarah Ferris (@sarahnferris) September 6, 2017
The worst negotiators in history (otherwise known as Republicans) have just offered to suspend debt ceiling for four months. Pathetic!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 22, 2013
Today, @realDonaldTrump appears to have taken deal to extend the debt ceiling for 3 months & do #Harvey aid. There’s a tweet for all he does https://t.co/zsGog8r84x
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) September 6, 2017
Then as that goes down, Ivanka comes in and things completely go off the rails?
Hill aide said Ivanka Trump came in to Oval during WH meeting to say hello and the meeting careened off topic.
— Sam Stein (@samstein) September 6, 2017
“Careened”
1) Why does she have ongoing access while meeting occurring?
2) Kelly doesn’t have control?
3) @realDonaldTrump has no discipline https://t.co/Fhq5D7Par3— lawhawk (@lawhawk) September 6, 2017
What the hell is Ivanka doing just coming/going as she pleases? Meeting ongoing with Congressional leaders and she just traipses right in?
Trump has absolutely no idea what he’s doing. He has no discipline, and neither does anyone else around him other than perhaps Kelly, who’s incapable of imposing discipline on anyone in the Trump cabal. It’s impossible to control events, when Trump can simply ignore everything and do as he pleases and his kids can come running into the room whenever they see fit to do/say whatever they want.
The entire admin is a bunch of terrible toddlers with no impulse control.
re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth
Not so alarmed at Trump’s reversal. Much more alarmed by “GOP leaders were opposed.” Opposed… to raising the limit? If so, they’re insane.
— Bob Cesca
Why raise the debt limit without killing a few liberal hostages along the way?
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re: #30 lawhawk
Chain of events in the DACA, debt ceiling is batcrap insane.
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What the hell is Ivanka doing just coming/going as she pleases? Meeting ongoing with Congressional leaders and she just traipses right in?
Trump has absolutely no idea what he’s doing. He has no discipline, and neither does anyone else around him other than perhaps Kelly, who’s incapable of imposing discipline on anyone in the Trump cabal. It’s impossible to control events, when Trump can simply ignore everything and do as he pleases and his kids can come running into the room whenever they see fit to do/say whatever they want.
The entire admin is a bunch of terrible toddlers with no impulse control.
We’ve become post USSR, Russia and the former Soviet Republics. Thankfully Trump is old.
re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth
I’ve got a halfway decent internet connection today.
MrBWS is home briefly this afternoon to help me get prepped here for colder weather moving in before he leaves Saturday morning for the hurricane.
I think it’s gonna be quite rainy here too.
re: #30 lawhawk
Hill aide said Ivanka Trump came in to Oval during WH meeting to say hello and the meeting careened off topic.
— Sam Stein
Careened…to what? Is the 3-month deal still on? Not that anyone should take Drumpf at his word.
re: #10 Amory Blaine
PSA: Every Member of Congress From Florida Who Voted Against Hurricane Sandy Aid
“Put another way — The North Remembers.”
re: #36 Skip Intro
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I could go for some traditional Mexican corn tortilla tacos right now.
re: #33 HappyWarrior
I think it’s gonna be quite rainy here too.
It’s rained off and on all day here in The Capital. I brought my heavy-duty umbrella just in case.
re: #27 Sir John Barron
So Trump was meeting with the GOP, with Dems, both?
Both.
Now, that’s a photo.
(via @GettyImagesNews @alexwongcw)pic.twitter.com/qzvPYbeEUn— Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla) September 6, 2017
Update on story from downstairs regarding Confederate monuments in Dallas:
City council meeting happened this morning, and vote for immediate removal has passed.
Dallas Council Votes To Remove Confederate Monuments
DALLAS (cbsdfw.com) - Dallas leaders on Wednesday voted to remove the city’s Confederate monuments.
Dozens of people — more than 50 total — signed up to speak to the city council about this issue. Mayor Mike Rawlings allowed each of them to have one minute to speak prior to council members discussing the resolution. Those speakers continued until just after 11:00 a.m. on Wednesday.
Crews are already at the monuments and beginning the removal process.
re: #4 Charles Johnson
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Maggie said this was RAKING Sanders
“I am proud to be a Democrat and wish Bernie were, too.”
re: #28 Stanley Sea
He fucks everyone!
No Wall money, Obamacare still law of the land, no drastic budget cuts to the safety net. I mean, what are we doing here if we can’t have any goodies?
re: #40 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos
Now the usual suspects can stop freaking out about gun-grabbers in the Virgin Islands and switch back to statue-grabbers in Dallas.
re: #6 freetoken
I thought it was only his short attention span.
Now, perhaps another scenario - Trump wanted to humiliate the Congressional Republicans?
That time when @SpeakerRyan called the Dem proposal on debt ceiling/Harvey aid “ridiculous and disgraceful” & Trump agreed to it hours later pic.twitter.com/Ne7rtM4nRF
— Jeremy Diamond (@JDiamond1) September 6, 2017
re: #45 BeachDem
No one should ever underestimate the vindictiveness of Trump.
re: #41 BeachDem
Maggie said this was RAKING Sanders
“I am proud to be a Democrat and wish Bernie were, too.”
Bannon was obvs her source.
She’s very thin on the inside baseball since he left.
re: #41 BeachDem
Maggie said this was RAKING Sanders
“I am proud to be a Democrat and wish Bernie were, too.”
It’s true. Those who accuse her of dividing the party are sticking by a guy who can’t even commit himself to the party yet wants to decide the party’s vision. If they can’t see why that bothers people, well that’s on them not Hill.
I love Josh’s gifs
Ouch McConnell and Ryan didn’t see that coming. https://t.co/jvUDHjsd1c pic.twitter.com/nJe9yyqlVj
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) September 6, 2017
Some are saying Chuck used the secret mojo on McConnell pic.twitter.com/yg6BU4XaWI
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) September 6, 2017
I think Chuck’s secret mojo was actually used on the yam.
re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth
Not so alarmed at Trump’s reversal. Much more alarmed by “GOP leaders were opposed.” Opposed… to raising the limit? If so, they’re insane.
DT is actually bucking up against “conservative principles”. Something he is totally unused to.
1/6 Back in the day before the Daily Stormer even existed, I had a similar experience when a neo-Nazi named Bill White who I criticized …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 6, 2017
2/6 at my blog decided to start stalking and doxing me, threatening my life and the lives of my family members. Went to the police, and …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 6, 2017
3/6 they wouldn’t even file a report; one cop leveled with me that unless he specifically said “I’m going to kill you at 3 pm next …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 6, 2017
4/6 Wednesday” they couldn’t do anything. Bill White is now in prison. He was convicted of threatening federal jurors, then the ACLU …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 6, 2017
5/6 succeeded in getting the conviction overturned on 1st Amendment grounds. When the prosecutor appealed the decision, White fled to …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 6, 2017
6/6 Mexico, was eventually arrested and is now in prison for a long stretch.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 6, 2017
re: #45 BeachDem
You know what’s actually kind of amazing about Trump? That with all the tweeting and the lack of attention and general know-nothingness, he’s managed to keep his base devoted to him. You’d think he’d say or do something dumb enough by now that even the truest adherents of MAGAism would recognize it for being against True Patriot Conservative Principles.
If Drumpf sticks to this debt ceiling deal, this might be the first major conflict with his rabid base. Unless they don’t care, which is possible.
And now, people like Bill White are electing and influencing the president of the United States.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 6, 2017
re: #54 Sir John Barron
You know what’s actually kind of amazing about Trump? That with all the tweeting and the lack of attention and general know-nothingness, he’s managed to keep his base devoted to him.
Remember all the times he made gaffes or statements that would have derailed the campaign or even the career or any professional politician? His secret power is that he is immune to the consequences of this words and actions: people will gladly step up to spin and make excuses for what he says and does and even accept blatant lies to justify their assertions.
re: #55 Charles Johnson
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I think that’s the most scary thing of all Charles. Guys like White that were once even in the fringe on the right are influencing the WH. Richard Spencer was Stephen Miller’s mentor in college and it’s bad enough that Miller went on to be a Senate aide for Sessions but now he’s in the WH influencing Executive policy. We have gone so far back with this President. It’s going to take a truly special leader to get us out of it and hoenstly I don’t know who that is.
re: #51 Stanley Sea
I love Josh’s gifs
I think Chuck’s secret mojo was actually used on the yam.
I think having both R’s and D’s in the same room confuses Donald, he doesn’t know who is who. He needs name tags with party ID.
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re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Remember all the times he made gaffes or statements that would have derailed the campaign or even the career or any professional politician? His secret power is that he is immune to the consequences of this words and actions: people will gladly step up to spin and make excuses for what he says and does and even accept blatant lies to justify their assertions.
That’s true. Trump gets away with a lot with his base that a normal politician would never. I think it’s because his appeal to his base is that he’s an unapologetic bigoted asshole and that’s long what the Republican Party base has wanted in their man.
Curfew is lifted except West Houston. Proud to report crime reported was LOWER than before storm. Thank you, Houston, for your cooperation.
— Sylvester Turner (@SylvesterTurner) September 6, 2017
Gun nuts crestfallen.
As for 2020 candidates. Right now, I really like Kamala Harris. I like that she’s lending her name to a lot of important bills. I like her background as a prosecutor and AG too.
re: #54 Sir John Barron
You know what’s actually kind of amazing about Trump? That with all the tweeting and the lack of attention and general know-nothingness, he’s managed to keep his base devoted to him. You’d think he’d say or do something dumb enough by now that even the truest adherents of MAGAism would recognize it for being against True Patriot Conservative Principles.
If Drumpf sticks to this debt ceiling deal, this might be the first major conflict with his rabid base. Unless they don’t care, which is possible.
They don’t care. From FR:
To: Alter Kaker
I back Trump no matter what.
The RINOs are a pestilence which needs to be cured in the primaries.3 posted on 9/6/2017, 11:50:19 AM by ZULU (DITCH MITCH!!! DUMP RYAN!! DROP DEAD MCCAIN!! KIM FATTY the THIRD = Kim Jung Un)
re: #54 Sir John Barron
You know what’s actually kind of amazing about Trump? That with all the tweeting and the lack of attention and general know-nothingness, he’s managed to keep his base devoted to him. You’d think he’d say or do something dumb enough by now that even the truest adherents of MAGAism would recognize it for being against True Patriot Conservative Principles.
If Drumpf sticks to this debt ceiling deal, this might be the first major conflict with his rabid base. Unless they don’t care, which is possible.
I think it’s that they’re even dumber than he is, and as long as there’s somebody (Fox et al) to cheerlead for him, they’re sucked into the vortex. (I doubt many of them have clue fucking one what the debt ceiling even is.)
re: #64 BeachDem
I think it’s that they’re even dumber than he is, and as long as there’s somebody (Fox et al) to cheerlead for him, they’re sucked into the vortex. (I doubt many of them have clue fucking one what the debt ceiling even is.)
As long as he keeps on the bigot train, they don’t care. That’s all that matters to them.
re: #58 Sir John Barron
I think having both R’s and D’s in the same room confuses Donald, he doesn’t know who is who. He needs name tags with party ID.
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The D’s actually know how to negotiate. All the R’s know how to do is bluster and say no.
re: #63 calochortus
They’ll support anything he does even if and when it goes against conservative dogma i.e. his positions on trade.
re: #63 calochortus
To: Alter Kaker
I back Trump no matter what.
The RINOs are a pestilence which needs to be cured in the primaries.3 posted on 9/6/2017, 11:50:19 AM by ZULU (DITCH MITCH!!! DUMP RYAN!! DROP DEAD MCCAIN!! KIM FATTY the THIRD = Kim Jung Un)
Not a cult! You’re a cult!
re: #64 BeachDem
I think it’s that they’re even dumber than he is, and as long as there’s somebody (Fox et al) to cheerlead for him, they’re sucked into the vortex. (I doubt many of them have clue fucking one what the debt ceiling even is.)
I think the spin will be The Dems Made Him Do It, or some such.
Oh, and he was also a friend of far right MRA blogger Robert Stacy McCain.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 6, 2017
re: #64 BeachDem
I think it’s that they’re even dumber than he is, and as long as there’s somebody (Fox et al) to cheerlead for him, they’re sucked into the vortex. (I doubt many of them have clue fucking one what the debt ceiling even is.)
I think you are exactly correct.
You think math is hard? Try macroeconomics.
The R’s haven’t gotten a *single thing* right about the economy in 10 years. And they have not changed a single note in their tune.
Tax cuts for the rich! Runaway inflation is just around the corner! Debt will kill the dollar!
Heh—now they know how we feel every fucking day.
“Republican leaders were visibly annoyed by Ivanka’s presence.” https://t.co/XbEhDs0i8q
— Annie Karni (@anniekarni) September 6, 2017
“Republican leaders were visibly annoyed by Ivanka’s presence.” https://t.co/XbEhDs0i8q
— Annie Karni (@anniekarni) September 6, 2017
They’re not the only ones. https://t.co/j8pjJ8GguL
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 6, 2017
BREAKING: Gov. Deal declares state of emergency ahead of Irma https://t.co/xh8vlWM2O8 pic.twitter.com/Ch6obDhiSE
— WJCL News (@WJCLNews) September 6, 2017
re: #75 Timothy Watson
“We’ll be sure to pass it along to President Trump.”
As if there is any other function for a poll this vague.
re: #75 Timothy Watson
This is just sad:
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“Mr. President, we can report with confidence that 0% of your supporters believe you’re doing a bad job as President!”
re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth
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So, Irma is going to buzzsaw its way right up the coast of Florida and then plow into the Carolinas. That is about as bad as it can get for causing maximum damage.
re: #80 ObserverArt
So, Irma is going to buzzsaw its way right up the coast of Florida and then plow into the Carolinas. That is about as bad as it can get for causing maximum damage.
heh
Has a Florida newspaper ran with a big, bold “Irma-gerd!” headline in 72-point font yet? If not, free idea for ya.
— Eric Holthaus (@EricHolthaus) September 6, 2017
re: #74 Charles Johnson
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They knew what they were getting when they nominated and campaigned for htis guy.
re: #12 Stanley Sea
I betcha he has an Ivanka panic button in his
jacketpants.He hits it in time of need.
re: #75 Timothy Watson
This is just sad:
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No pick for Worse than James Buchanan because Buchanan at least cared about the country.
re: #84 The Vicious Babushka
Haha. That’s so gross but right.
re: #79 Sir John Barron
“Mr. President, we can report with confidence that 0% of your supporters believe you’re doing a bad job as President!”
He’s narcissistic enough to brag about that.
re: #73 BeachDem
re: #74 Charles Johnson
Ivanka has the office bugged and arrives when she thinks Donny is straying off course
“Republican leaders were visibly annoyed by Ivanka’s presence.” https://t.co/XbEhDs0i8q
— Annie Karni (@anniekarni) September 6, 2017
Ivanka has casually dropped by to say hello/interrupt at key moments a NYT intvu, a WSJ intvu and a leaders Mtg https://t.co/Pyrxe6xvKV
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) September 6, 2017
pathetic
Just spoke w/ Governors Rick Scott of Florida, Kenneth Mapp of the U.S. Virgin Islands & Ricardo Rosselló of Puerto Rico. WE ARE W/ YOU ALL! pic.twitter.com/k92cslgKFa
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 6, 2017
NEW: Florida Senators Nelson, Rubio request additional funding for #Irma be included in Senate’s version of #Harvey disaster relief package. pic.twitter.com/aPP2ptkNF6
— Evan McMurry (@evanmcmurry) September 6, 2017
dude who voted NO on Sandy relief demanding $$$$ before hurricane even hits Fla.
these people are exactly who you thought they were https://t.co/XPpmNv3mMa— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) September 6, 2017
re: #41 BeachDem
Maggie said this was RAKING Sanders
“I am proud to be a Democrat and wish Bernie were, too.”
That’s the comment that got some of the Berners I see elsewhere all upset. They were saying Hillary isn’t a true Democratic politician either, just a Republican lite neocon.
The hope is Clinton losing will change the party from the Neocons like Clinton, Obama and Kerry and open the party up to the actual left of the party as demonstrated by the support Sanders got.
I sure hope 4 years might add a little maturity to some of them for the next big election in 2020, but I am not confident.
The 2016 election destroyed any form of confidence I had in American politics.
In bizarre emails, Ty Cobb says he and John Kelly are the “adults” in WH; suggests he may not be in job “for long.” https://t.co/sPOgHvYv8x
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) September 6, 2017
Is it time for mulled wine yet?
— VeryBritishProblems (@SoVeryBritish) September 6, 2017
excellent question.
Answer: YES!
re: #90 FormerDirtDart
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It’s nice that Rubio cares about helping his own state. Too bad he didn’t give a fuck about Jersey and New York. I hope Christie calls him out the way he did Cruz. I despise Christie because he’s a crook and an asshole but at least Christie has some human decency when it comes to natural disasters. Rubio and Cruz: Mah state but fuck blue states.
re: #93 Stanley Sea
These pics with an adoring Pence looking at Trump are freaking me out.
Be careful out there
Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office employee accused of pulling gun on customer at gas station while trying to fill up. Charges forwarded. #Irma pic.twitter.com/tiBCKmW01F
— Vic Micolucci WJXT (@WJXTvic) September 6, 2017
re: #91 ObserverArt
That’s the comment that got some of the Berners I see elsewhere all upset. They were saying Hillary isn’t a true Democratic politician either, just a Republican lite neocon.
The hope is Clinton losing will change the party from the Neocons like Clinton, Obama and Kerry and open the party up to the actual left of the party as demonstrated by the support Sanders got.
I sure hope 4 years might add a little maturity to some of them for the next big election in 2020, but I am not confident.
The 2016 election destroyed any form of confidence I had in American politics.
TBH with you, I hope they fail big time. I consider myself staunchly left but also staunchly opposed to the Sanders wing too. For one, guy won’t even join the aprty. Don’t tell me how to run my party that you won’t even jooin. Two, Bernie isn’t anywhere near as intelligent as Clinton, Obama, and Kerry on the acutal issues. Third, they’re as impatient and know nothing as the TP is about actual policy.
re: #84 The Vicious Babushka
I betcha he has an Ivanka panic button in his
jacketpants.He hits it in time of need.
So that is what Trump calls it?
So, Westboro decided to picket in Cincinnati today.
Five WBC members showed up.
Counter protesters out-numbered WBC tremendously. They brought vevuzelas.
I’m very bad at crowd estimates, but I’d guess more than 100. Maybe closer to 200? pic.twitter.com/oDpKOm99Pl
— Hannah Sparling (@hksparling) September 6, 2017
my fave:
Lol. This guy. pic.twitter.com/ctmZfeEdo8
— Hannah Sparling (@hksparling) September 6, 2017
The Westboro protestors, in the middle, followed by cheering of students and counter-protestors as they pack up. @Enquirer pic.twitter.com/yXL1YwZcev
— Monroe Trombly (@MonroeTrombly) September 6, 2017
and a good time was had by all!
re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth
So, Westboro decided to picket in Cincinnati today.
Five WBC members showed up.Counter protesters out-numbered WBC tremendously. They brought vevuzelas.
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What were they protesting this time? Does God hate Skyline Chili too?
re: #103 HappyWarrior
What were they protesting this time? Does God hate Skyline Chili too?
teh gheys.
re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth
So, Westboro decided to picket in Cincinnati today.
What are the Westboroos picketing about this time?
re: #103 HappyWarrior
What were they protesting this time? Does God hate Skyline Chili too?
Who hates Skyline Chili?
re: #97 FormerDirtDart
Be careful out there
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Oh god, I just realized Irma is going to be a disaster with a few cc’s of Florida Man injected into the chaos. (horrified-face emoji)
I am so sorry pic.twitter.com/7Z7cD2d2Oa
— Haley Byrd (@byrdinator) September 6, 2017
re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth
WBC is all upset about the LGBTQ Center at University of Cincinnati.
Ah okay. It really is amazing that they have all this time on their hands. Do they ever actually attend church?
re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth
WBC is all upset about the LGBTQ Center at University of Cincinnati.
good. :-D
Finding out that while I have some lefty bro friends, I have a lot of sensible center left ones too that have had it with the petty bullshit.
15 states, Washington DC sue Trump administration over DACA https://t.co/9XxLgWvZWr pic.twitter.com/JMMM0NFwWH
— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) September 6, 2017
re: #115 MsJ
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This is why midterm and off year elections matter. Our AG race was incredibly close in 2013. Instead of getting a RW AG, we got Mark Herring who is a terrific AG and a voice for all Virginians.
re: #116 HappyWarrior
This is why midterm and off year elections matter. Our AG race was incredibly close in 2013. Instead of getting a RW AG, we got Mark Herring who is a terrific AG and a voice for all Virginians.
As compared to Texas where our AG is under indictment.
re: #114 HappyWarrior
Finding out that while I have some lefty bro friends, I have a lot of sensible center left ones too that have had it with the petty bullshit.
Right. If that line about “wish he was a Dem too” is the one that gets under their skin, then they’re idiots. There is much more damning ridicule in the book, from the tiny excerpts I have seen, notably about Bernie shifting his positions to be leftier but impossibly impractical, just to outflank Hillary’s. That ought to sting. I really look forward to reading the book.
Mitch’s face and body language is just oh lordt:
Here Is A Blow By Blow Account Of How Trump Got Owned By Democrats On The Debt Ceiling https://t.co/OGfSSbJ3IF pic.twitter.com/lMd8lcqIRW
— Sarah Reese Jones (@PoliticusSarah) September 6, 2017
re: #117 Belafon
As compared to Texas where our AG is under indictment.
“Just a youthful indiscretion.”
re: #117 Belafon
As compared to Texas where our AG is under indictment.
What is he under indictment for?
(THREAD) BREAKING: Trump—via Trey Gowdy—is AGAIN attempting to use the House Intel Committee to END the Russia probe. Please read and share. pic.twitter.com/OdhYEFrsM2
— Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) September 6, 2017
This Bastard altered Benghazi emails to try to jail Hilliary. Her legal team had original emails for comparison Trey should be serving time. https://t.co/FV4C2ASmEi
— Carol York (@carolfromindy) September 6, 2017
re: #118 petesh
Right. If that line about “wish he was a Dem too” is the one that gets under their skin, then they’re idiots. There is much more damning ridicule in the book, from the tiny excerpts I have seen, notably about Bernie shifting his positions to be leftier but impossibly impractical, just to outflank Hillary’s. That ought to sting. I really look forward to reading the book.
I do too. I think she has a lot of sound observations on him. The Something About Mary ref is spot on imo. Because he had a lot of meat but little bones to his promises. Hillary may have a little less meat but her plans were much more well thought out.
re: #122 Sir John Barron
“Paxton is accused of two counts of securities fraud for soliciting investors in a McKinney tech company without revealing that he was being paid for the work. The first-degree felonies carry a maximum of 99 years in prison.
He also was charged with failing to register with state securities regulators, a third-degree felony with a maximum punishment of 10 years in prison.”
mystatesman.com
A man has been arrested for asking Pennsylvania Sen. Pat Toomey a very bad question at a town hall: https://t.co/nNFStUSDoR pic.twitter.com/3D73FP66BA
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) September 6, 2017
I got one friend who really goes after them. He never name calls. Just goes after them with facts and they hate him.
re: #125 jaunte
The first-degree felonies carry a maximum of 99 years in prison.
That sounds like a pretty stiff penalty. But, you know, ‘rule of law’ and all that.
.@realDonaldTrump releases list of charities he donated to for Hurricane Harvey relief. pic.twitter.com/Tb51qQJd2I
— David Fahrenthold (@Fahrenthold) September 6, 2017
At $100,000, one of the biggest donations is going to Samaritan’s Purse, which is run by…major Trump backer Franklin Graham. https://t.co/kyLP4dOCU6
— Citizens for Ethics (@CREWcrew) September 6, 2017
This is just sad.
Equality. pic.twitter.com/NQ4pJt94AZ
— Michael Bennett (@mosesbread72) September 6, 2017
WaPo: Facebook told investigators that it sold ads during the election to a Russian biz seeking to target voters. https://t.co/jxmbcS6a5t
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) September 6, 2017
WaPo: Facebook “traced the ad sales, totaling $100,000, to a Russian ‘troll farm’ with a history of pushing pro-Kremlin propaganda.” https://t.co/sOEDn3dCL0
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) September 6, 2017
THERE
IT
FUCKING
IS:
The smoking gun that the Russians actually communicated directly w voters.
What Repubs did the targeting for them? pic.twitter.com/xoXwtLjrxQ— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) September 6, 2017
re: #134 MsJ
Man, that political campaign is going to be real interesting now, ain’t it Zuckerberg?
re: #134 MsJ
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NEW: Here’s the full @Facebook statement on Russian influence accounts. https://t.co/YAoMOvnlkn pic.twitter.com/UXoQ64YzaE
— Christina Wilkie (@christinawilkie) September 6, 2017
re: #135 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Man, that political campaign is going to be real interesting now, ain’t it Zuckerberg?
Yeah sure is.
Kelly reportedly kept Sheriff Clarke out of the Trump admin, deciding that his jailing practices weren’t a good look https://t.co/C8ucrCVHN0 pic.twitter.com/1hGZ0szbiX
— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) September 6, 2017
Thing about Russia is we have to remember they were trying to divide the left too.
re: #140 MsJ
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So Kelly was bothered by the optics more than the fact that Clarke ran Milwaukee’s jails like his own personal fiefdom.
- Thanks VB
Finally had enough today with BernieBros and Stein voters somehow both regretting their actions while defending them as not responsible for everything that’s happened since.
Total BS.
If you voted for Darth Orange McRoadkillhair & now find yourself regretting it, I don’t wanna hear about it. 1/5
— Arch1 (@Arch_LGF) September 6, 2017
If you voted for Jill Stein & now find yourself regretting it, I don’t wanna hear about it. 2/5
— Arch1 (@Arch_LGF) September 6, 2017
If you voted for Saint Bernie & now find yourself regretting it, I don’t wanna hear about it. 3/5
— Arch1 (@Arch_LGF) September 6, 2017
To be clear: If you voted for anyone other than the only other viable+sane candidate & have buyer’s remorse, I don’t wanna hear about it.4/5
— Arch1 (@Arch_LGF) September 6, 2017
NOT. ONE. LOUSY. WORD. Because this horrible situation is on you.You OWN this disaster we all gotta deal with - every last bit of it. 5/5
— Arch1 (@Arch_LGF) September 6, 2017
Thought of adding a whole lot more, but too exhausted at the moment. Also new to Twitter thread thingies..
re: #141 HappyWarrior
Thing about Russia is we have to remember they were trying to divide the left too.
Can’t stress enough that there’s nothing to see here. pic.twitter.com/DS2VzLIkaq
— Schooley (@Rschooley) September 6, 2017
re: #142 HappyWarrior
So Kelly was bothered by the optics more than the fact that Kelly ran Milwaukee’s jails like his own personal fiefdom.
It’s a good way to manipulate Trump.
re: #145 Timothy Watson
Isn’t Catholic Charities on the wingnut shitlist?
probably, what with being Catholic and all…
re: #142 HappyWarrior
So Kelly was bothered by the optics more than the fact that Kelly ran Milwaukee’s jails like his own personal fiefdom.
Perhaps that’s how he could get Trump to buy in? I doubt Trump cares about how Clarke ran the jails, but he cares very much about optics.
In which Canada’s Green Party leader proves infinitely more useful and valuable than her US counterpart:
re: #143 Archangelus
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The irony to me is Sanderistas accusing Clinton of trying to divide the party, a party that Sanders is too proud to even join. As for Jillies, I’ve never had any respect for them, maybe I’m naive about Bernie’s intentions but I do think his heart may be in the right place. Stein? She just wants to see the world burn and she’s an apologist for Putin.
re: #112 HappyWarrior
Ah okay. It really is amazing that they have all this time on their hands. Do they ever actually attend church?
They probably see this as their “church.”
Out sermonizing and evangelizing to the public.
You know, just like Jesus used to do.
re: #149 Interesting Times
In which Canada’s Green Party leader proves infinitely more useful and valuable than her US counterpart:
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the UK Greens are pretty solid too. Among the most supportive of staying in the EU. Of course, Jillly Stein ignored that when she tried to push Brexit as “people being fed up with the elites” even though working class Scotland favored staying and it was very affluent parts of the UK that were strongly supportive of leaving.
Quick update on Pharma Bro’s offer of $5K to assault Hillary Clinton in public.
The Facebook post has been taken down last I checked.
Which is it, Conservatives? Undocumented immigrants are taking jobs away from Americans, or undocumented immigrants are on welfare? It can’t be both.
re: #154 DodgerFan1988
Which is it, Conservatives? Undocumented immigrants are taking jobs away from Americans, or undocumented immigrants are on welfare? It can’t be both.
Of course, it can.
re: #117 Belafon
As compared to Texas where our AG is under indictment.
I know just a little about him. Is he also part of the Republican politician “God Squad” like Abbott and Patrick?
these fuckers never quit.
Check out Graham-Cassidy (new ACA repeal) cuts by state in 2026. Folks we’re gonna target House Republicans in AZ, CA, FL, IL, NJ, NY, OH. pic.twitter.com/MIQfCiODSY
— Topher Spiro (@TopherSpiro) September 6, 2017
re: #158 ObserverArt
I know just a little about him. Is he also part of the Republican politician “God Squad” like Abbott and Patrick?
How anyone can have anything to do with religion these days is beyond me.
re: #129 Sir John Barron
That sounds like a pretty stiff penalty. But, you know, ‘rule of law’ and all that.
What makes it even more delish is the fact that Paxton supported the change in Texas law to include harsh penalties for security fraud.
re: #162 Bubblehead II
What makes it even more delish is the fact that Paxton supported the change in Texas law to include harsh penalties for security fraud.
Karma would be a bitch then.
re: #142 HappyWarrior
So Kelly was bothered by the optics more than the fact that
KellyClarke ran Milwaukee’s jails like his own personal fiefdom.
ftfy, it doesn’t make sense otherwise.
re: #91 ObserverArt
I sure hope 4 years might add a little maturity to some of them for the next big election in 2020, but I am not confident.
With Nina Turner heading up Their Revolution, I doubt it.
lol >> Dems Trying to Be Hush Hush on Their Victory Lap So Trump Doesn’t Realize the Depth of His Self-Own https://t.co/ThUe3k9VJx via @TPM
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) September 6, 2017
POTUS calls Ivanka to the stage in ND, saying everybody loves her. “She actually said: ‘daddy, can I go with you?’ I said ‘yes you can.’”
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) September 6, 2017
airplane sickness bags but for twitter https://t.co/QQKlNSzWvx
— darth:™ (@darth) September 6, 2017
re: #158 ObserverArt
I know just a little about him. Is he also part of the Republican politician “God Squad” like Abbott and Patrick?
Yes.
“…He carried a bill to prevent school districts from obtaining sex-education materials from organizations like Planned Parenthood, and he co-authored a state constitutional amendment to protect from lawsuits individuals and businesses that refused to provide services because of religious objections. And he rallied support for legislation to require women to get a sonogram before an abortion. These proposals made Paxton a favorite of religious conservatives, and they aligned with his own fundamentalism.”
re: #153 Ace-o-aces
Quick update on Pharma Bro’s offer of $5K to assault Hillary Clinton in public.
The Facebook post has been taken down last I checked.
Shkreli seems to hope he’s at least day old bread, stale but possibly marketable, but he is actually last week’s fish, in urgent need of final disposal.
re: #95 HappyWarrior
It’s nice that Rubio cares about helping his own state. Too bad he didn’t give a fuck about Jersey and New York. I hope Christie calls him out the way he did Cruz. I despise Christie because he’s a crook and an asshole but at least Christie has some human decency when it comes to natural disasters. Rubio and Cruz: Mah state but fuck blue states.
Wait until/if it hits South Carolina. You haven’t heard hypocrites whine until you’ve heard South Carolina Republicans. (they all voted against Sandy relief.)
re: #165 BeachDem
With Nina Turner heading up Their Revolution, I doubt it.
They seriously see her as VP material. They really think purity is the way to build a party.
POTUS calls Ivanka to the stage in ND, saying everybody loves her. “She actually said: ‘daddy, can I go with you?’ I said ‘yes you can.’”
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) September 6, 2017
Story I’ve read is Obama’s close aides Valerie Jarrett and I forget the other’s name would throw their weight behind Deval Patrick in 2020. I imagine Obama himself will be neutral.
PM of Antigua and Barbuda is live on national broadcaster. He just arrived in Barbuda by heli. “It is totally destroyed. 90% at least”
— Lauren Dobson-Hughes (@ldobsonhughes) September 6, 2017
The news is not good. It sounds like the PM is saying over 1000 fatalities but the line connection isn’t good and he’s apparently hard to understand.
re: #174 jaunte
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re: #172 BeachDem
Wait until/if it hits South Carolina. You haven’t heard hypocrites whine until you’ve heard South Carolina Republicans. (they all voted against Sandy relief.)
True that.
re: #166 Stanley Sea
I hope they are doing just that. Like it or not, they have to deal with trump. He’s like a viper as it is, willing to turn on anyone at any time. Just get some reasonable shit done and if it means ass kissing (or not crowing) so be it. If Dems can fix some things, I am on board.
re: #176 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Barbuda is just barely above water on a hurricane-free day.
re: #156 HappyWarrior
Of course, it can.
Both, obviously. They’re stealing American jobs AND they’re cheating the system.
/
re: #107 MsJ
Who hates Skyline Chili?
Not me, I love Skyline. A while back, Sleuth and I (with Mr. Sleuth’s observations recorded for posterity) discussed Skyline vs. Gold Star. I’m Skyline all the way!
re: #162 Bubblehead II
What makes it even more delish is the fact that Paxton supported the change in Texas law to include harsh penalties for security fraud.
Heh, I wonder if he did that as cover.
You know “no one will suspect me, because I am so tough on penalties for securities fraud, that I just happen to partake in myself.”
re: #184 BeachDem
Not me, I love Skyline. A while back, Sleuth and I (with Mr. Sleuth’s observations recorded for posterity) discussed Skyline vs. Gold Star. I’m Skyline all the way!
I always bring some back when I am in OH. (Which is where I seem to get my rescued bossy terriers these days.)
It’s an institution.
re: #165 BeachDem
With Nina Turner heading up Their Revolution, I doubt it.
Nina hurts my confidence every time I hear her.
re: #182 jaunte
Barbuda is just barely above water on a hurricane-free day.
The structures would be a blow but something to cope with.
That fatality number would be greater than 50% of the population on the island. I’m hoping it’s wrong.
re: #88 FormerDirtDart
Is reality finally making an impact on Trump if only for a moment?
from your link
With Trump’s acquiescence to the Democrats’ fiscal demands, their chances of winning a DACA fix have also improved. Schumer and Pelosi specifically wanted only a short-term increase in the debt ceiling because it gives Democrats additional leverage to demand concessions during the next round of spending fights in December, when Congress will be under pressure to make a big year-end agreement before lawmakers go home for the holidays. Republicans know they can’t pass an increase in the debt ceiling without Democratic votes, and the more frequently they have to do it, the more bargaining power Pelosi and Schumer have.
re: #119 Backwoods_Sleuth
Mitch’s face and body language is just oh lordt:
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And “Chuck and Nancy” look delighted and trying to keep from busting out laughing.
re: #187 ObserverArt
Nina hurts my confidence every time I hear her.
What pisses me off about her is how she trashes the Clintons non-stop even though from what you and BD have told me, they campaigned hard for her in Ohio. The people who shit on the Clintons have no idea how many different candidates the Clintons have campaigned for and maybe that’s why some of them even those who may have been more idealistic like Sanders may have prefered her. It’s nice knowing someone has your back. I don’t think Bernie ever campaigned for anyone else until this past year. Politics is a team game. The Sanders diehards don’t seem to get that.
re: #123 MsJ
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That might well be the creepiest pic of Trey I’ve ever seen (and there are many, many creepy pics of Trey.)
re: #189 Unshaken Defiance
With Trump’s acquiescence to the Democrats’ fiscal demands, their chances of winning a DACA fix have also improved. Schumer and Pelosi specifically wanted only a short-term increase in the debt ceiling because it gives Democrats additional leverage to demand concessions during the next round of spending fights in December, when Congress will be under pressure to make a big year-end agreement before lawmakers go home for the holidays. Republicans know they can’t pass an increase in the debt ceiling without Democratic votes, and the more frequently they have to do it, the more bargaining power Pelosi and Schumer have.
Because Dems would filibuster a debt ceiling increase in the Senate? Seems unlikely. Because House R’s can’t get a unanimous vote among their own members? That would seem like a big f deal.
re: #171 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
Shkreli seems to hope he’s at least day old bread, stale but possibly marketable, but he is actually last week’s fish, in urgent need of final disposal.
He needs cash. fast.
Martin Shkreli lists secret Wu-Tang Clan album on eBay https://t.co/kZEBa5rQ0k
— Ben Jacobs (@Bencjacobs) September 6, 2017
re: #181 MsJ
I hope they are doing just that. Like it or not, they have to deal with trump. He’s like a viper as it is, willing to turn on anyone at any time. Just get some reasonable shit done and if it means ass kissing (or not crowing) so be it. If Dems can fix some things, I am on board.
There is that “The Snake Poem” thing again.
re: #176 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Same here klys. I stayed up all night following it. Finally crashed for a bit and just woke up to see your update. So sad.
re: #194 The Vicious Babushka
He needs cash. fast.
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He really does have that German word for punchable face. So many of these guys do.
The latest Right Wing Orwellian talking point making the rounds all over social media:
Deporting 800,000 Dreamers will save the lives of millions of Americans, “by preventing
another Kate Steinle or Jamiel Shaw tragedy.”
Minority Report is not a movie, it’s a documentary.
re: #194 The Vicious Babushka
He needs cash. fast.
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Can the clan buy it back for pennies on the dollar?
re: #197 HappyWarrior
Backpfeifengesicht.
re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Charities he donated to or charities he SAYS he donated to. I want to see the cancelled checks. (And, of course, Frankie Graham would get a large slice.)
re: #198 DodgerFan1988
The latest Right Wing Orwellian talking point making the rounds all over social media:
Deporting 800,000 Dreamers will save the lives of millions of Americans, “by preventing
another Kate Steinle or Jamiel Shaw tragedy.”
Minority Report is not a movie, it’s a documentary.
So, how many right wingers do we get to deport?
re: #192 BeachDem
That might well be the creepiest pic of Trey I’ve ever seen (and there are many, many creepy pics of Trey.)
Trump lies, again, that up to $5 trillion in profits is parked overseas. The US government, and outside experts, say $2.6 to $3 trillion.
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) September 6, 2017
re: #197 HappyWarrior
He really does have that German word for punchable face. So many of these guys do.
He has Backpfeifengesicht so bad, there are no mirrors in his house because he wants to punch himself every time he walks by one.
re: #196 JordanRules
Still lots of conflicting info. Many saying PM said 1 fatality not 1000. Hope so. Population is 1600.
New Olbermann.
NEW VIDEO: A new Fox poll shows 60% of us agree Trump is unstable. Why are we refusing to debate HOW unstable? pic.twitter.com/ONzRxnqnk0
— Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) September 6, 2017
re: #192 BeachDem
That might well be the creepiest pic of Trey I’ve ever seen (and there are many, many creepy pics of Trey.)
He looks like a cartoon character who ran headfirst into a brick wall. He was a prosecutor no less and a possible Atty General and head of the FBI. And he’s a lying sack of shit which really saddens me. There’s no justice in our Justice Department any longer.
re: #202 Belafon
So, how many right wingers do we get to deport?
Maybe we can support with Trump’s black friend who actually was involved in a murder.
re: #198 DodgerFan1988
The latest Right Wing Orwellian talking point making the rounds all over social media:
Deporting 800,000 Dreamers will save the lives of millions of Americans, “by preventing
another Kate Steinle or Jamiel Shaw tragedy.”
Minority Report is not a movie, it’s a documentary.
I’m really sick of the nasty nativism I see from my fellow white Americans. No empathy at all at what it must feel like to be an immigrant. I’m not an immigrant and indeed neither are my parents or grandparents but I do have my great grandfather’s petition for citizenship along with his daughter- my great aunt’s memories of the American dream he wanted for his family.
something i didn’t know that i think explains a lot:
Trump on Tuesday moved to sunset the DACA program, acting in response to a threat from 10 states led by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton sent in late June, threatening Trump that they’d sue in an unfriendly court if the President didn’t end the program by September 5.
Trump polls the crowd on whether they prefer “made in America” or “made in the USA.” “We should pick one or the other,” he explains.
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) September 6, 2017
FFS
re: #188 klys (maker of Silmarils)
The structures would be a blow but something to cope with.
That fatality number would be greater than 50% of the population on the island. I’m hoping it’s wrong.
First contact has been made on the tiny Island of #Barbuda pic.twitter.com/Kquf3kWCsM
Trump Campaign, RNC Launch Petition Demanding ‘Fake’ News Media Cover Menendez Trial https://t.co/2B2PbF43EU pic.twitter.com/o38bjxiT1X
— Mediaite (@Mediaite) September 6, 2017
Did I mention how much I despise this slug and Romney for giving him access to the Republican establishment by making him his immigration adviser? The big lie is that Trump changed the Republican Party. No, Trump merely shouted what Republicans like Romney were too chicken shit to say for years.
re: #214 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
something i didn’t know that i think explains a lot:
Trump on Tuesday moved to sunset the DACA program, acting in response to a threat from 10 states led by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton sent in late June, threatening Trump that they’d sue in an unfriendly court if the President didn’t end the program by September 5.
And his Attorney, who’s racist, couldn’t tell him “It doesn’t matter, immigration is a federal issue.”
re: #218 MsJ
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re: #198 DodgerFan1988
Deporting 800,000 Dreamers will save the lives of millions of Americans
so then, according to a quick back of the envelope calculation, each dreamer kills on average 2.5 americans?
re: #222 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
so then, according to a quick back of the envelope calculation, each dreamer kills on average 2.5 americans?
I’m getting killed by an El Salvadorian but not until after I get pupusas!
omg we have tape
(noting that CNN isn’t showing it)
Trump just now re Ivanka: “She wanted to make the trip….she actually said ‘daddy can I go with you?’ I said ‘yes you can’” pic.twitter.com/HoBCOjS5WN
— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) September 6, 2017
re: #224 Stanley Sea
omg we have tape
(noting that CNN isn’t showing it)
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He wants to marry her so bad.
re: #227 HappyWarrior
I’m glad you’re maintaining discretion.
Why is he in North Dakota anyhow? Baby Donnie need another rally to make himself feel better about being a miserable failure of a president and human being & to get circle jerked by ignorant assholes?
re: #229 HappyWarrior
“They wanted a red state with an energy/industrial backdrop and an incumbent D[emocrat] senator in a potentially tight race next year,” said Stephen Brown, head of federal affairs for Andeavor [formerly Tesoro Corp.] in an email to the Washington Examiner. “Our facility checks all those boxes.”
washingtonexaminer.com
(Yes, I know it was two days ago. I’ve been having another fatigue episode since before it was posted).
re: #470 HappyWarrior
The more honest ones like Coulter admit it when they talk about having a Nuremberg like citizenship law. Annie’s idea is that only people with all four grandparents born in the US can vote which would mean for me despite the fact that my first immigrant ancestor arrived here in George Washington’s time, I would be the first to be able to vote in my family as all four my mom’s grandparents were immigrants and one of my Dad’s. The GOP knows they shit the bed with minority voters. Instead of admitting error or trying to be more welcoming, they want this because they know they’re a failure of a party when Americans of all backgrounds vote.
Ironically, this would keep my vote in play while disqualifying my MAGAt father, whose own father was born to Austro-Hungarian immigrants in 1916, and whose mother was similarly born to immigrants around the same time.
Unfortunately, in the main, it’d probably have the effect that’s intended and my case would be a major outlier.
re: #186 MsJ
I always bring some back when I am in OH. (Which is where I seem to get my rescued bossy terriers these days.)
It’s an institution.
If there are Kroger stores near you, they sell frozen Skyline, which is really good. But DON’T EVER BUY THE CANNED VERSION. My Kroger was out of frozen once and I learned that the hard way.
re: #232 jaunte
Ah okay. Makes sense. She’s got a tough reelection ahead. Hope she can hang on.
One of my favorite German jokes:
“Grandpa, come downstairs, the football is about to start!”
-“Who’s playing?”
“Austria-Hungary”
-“Against whom?”
Helpful hint: Every time Trump says “tax reform” what he means is “save myself millions on all of these emolument profits.”
— Schooley (@Rschooley) September 6, 2017
re: #233 Chrysicat
(Yes, I know it was two days ago. I’ve been having another fatigue episode since before it was posted).
Ironically, this would keep my vote in play while disqualifying my MAGAt father, whose own father was born to Austro-Hungarian immigrants in 1916, and whose mother was similarly born to immigrants around the same time.
Unfortunately, in the main, it’d probably have the effect that’s intended and my case would be a major outlier.
Trump himself would be ineligible under Coulter’s dumb idea. Momma Trump was from Scotland. But yeah it’s crazy for me, I did the math and I would be the first person in my family eligible for the reasons why I described. I saw this morning that someone busted Tomi Lehren when she pulled the “my family followed the rules” card by pointing out her great great grandfather in fact was indicated for lying on a naturalization form. Oops. I actually don’t have the naturalization records for all my family. By the way, whereabouts in AH? Mom’s Mom’s parents were Slovaks while ehr dad’s were Slovenes. We’ve been joing that we hope that if Grandpa were still here, he wouldn’t have fallen for the fact that Trump married a Slovene girl.
Irony: This happened in the capital of the Choctaw Nation.
‘You’re speaking immigrant’: Oklahoma man goes on berserk rant caught on video by Hispanic woman
An Oklahoma woman was accosted at a thrift store by another shopper who overheard her speaking Spanish on her cell phone.
The Durant woman, Maty Roberts, was speaking to her sister on the phone while shopping at Goodwill when an unshaven white man approached her and began hurling racial slurs, reported KXII-TV.
She said he also harassed her daughter and her daughter’s boyfriend before Roberts began recording video.
“He just kept spitting out words, like, ‘You’re an immigrant and you need to go back to your country,’” said the woman’s daughter, Alison Roberts.
re: #235 BeachDem
If there are Kroger stores near you, they sell frozen Skyline, which is really good. But DON’T EVER BUY THE CANNED VERSION. My Kroger was out of frozen once and I learned that the hard way.
Kroger in MI sucks ass. The Kroger in OH was amazing. I never go to Kroger when I do grocery shopping. I go to Meijer. At least they have reasonably good stuff.
Being from Chicago, small town life takes getting used to. Thank goodness I have Amazon.
re: #241 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
Irony: This happened in the capital of the Choctaw Nation.
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Guy does not look Native American. Another fine example of white superiority? /
re: #243 wheat-dogg
The master race has no need for dentistry.
re: #241 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
Irony: This happened in the capital of the Choctaw Nation.
‘You’re speaking immigrant’: Oklahoma man goes on berserk rant caught on video by Hispanic woman
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Mind your own fucking business, dipshit.
re: #242 MsJ
Kroger in MI sucks ass. The Kroger in OH was amazing. I never go to Kroger when I do grocery shopping. I go to Meijer. At least they have reasonably good stuff.
Being from Chicago, small town life takes getting used to. Thank goodness I have Amazon.
I like Kroger, in part, because it’s a union store, even here in Texas.
re: #244 A dark and stormy covfefe
The master race has no need for dentistry.
The dentist offices will be built after lebenstrum.
My favorite was when some speak English douche got pissy with a woman speaking Navajo or maybe it was another tribal language in the Southwest somewhere.
Secret recipe.
Can of Stagg chili, your choice. I like steakhouse.
Box #11 spaghettini
Your size shredded cheddar cheese.
Just slightly undercook the pasta (under al dente) because the pasta will continue to cook with hot chili on top.
Serve.
Enjoy.
PS; Like hot sauce? Do before cheese.
boom.
i cans spelt
re: #241 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
Irony: This happened in the capital of the Choctaw Nation.
‘You’re speaking immigrant’: Oklahoma man goes on berserk rant caught on video by Hispanic woman
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Dude has like three teeth. Jimminy cricket.
re: #229 HappyWarrior
Why is he in North Dakota anyhow? Baby Donnie need another rally to make himself feel better about being a miserable failure of a president and human being & to get circle jerked by ignorant assholes?
And…remember, he took Heidi Hietkamp along, and here it is:
Trump: “We havent given up on healthcare. We never give up. One vote.”
— Alan Rappeport (@arappeport) September 6, 2017
“Are you listening Heidi?” Trump says to Sen. Hietkamp.
— Alan Rappeport (@arappeport) September 6, 2017
re: #243 wheat-dogg
Guy does not look Native American. Another fine example of white superiority? /
A face only a mother could love, except he probably murdered her and keeps her mummified corpse in an upstairs bedroom.
re: #246 Belafon
I like Kroger, in part, because it’s a union store, even here in Texas.
The whole You Can Carry Guns Wherever You Want In Our Stores turned me off. I was in OH and needed a grocery store so I went in. But it would never be my first choice. I get your point, though.
re: #252 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
A face only a mother could love, except he probably
murderedmarried her and keeps hermummified corpsein an upstairs bedroom.
re: #241 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
Oh look, it’s a deplorable tr*mp supporter. This knuckle-dragging oxygen thief is most likely being more blatant about his hatred because of the tr*mp turd in the Spite House.
re: #255 EPR-radar
Oh look, it’s a deplorable tr*mp supporter. This knuckle-dragging oxygen thief is most likely being more blatant about his hatred because of the tr*mp turd in the Spite House.
He’s just economically anxious because no one will employ him because he’s a dickbag.
re: #244 A dark and stormy covfefe
The master race has no need for dentistry.
We could deport him back to his own people but they’re extinct, having been wiped out by the Cro-Magnons.
re: #249 nines09
Secret recipe.
Can of Stagg chili, your choice. I like steakhouse.
Box #11 spaghettini
Your size shredded cheddar cheese.
Just slightly undercook the pasta (under al dente) because the chii will continue to cook it.
Serve.
Enjoy.
PS; Like hot sauce? Do before cheese.
boom.
You forgot the onions! Must. Have. Onions!
re: #242 MsJ
Kroger in MI sucks ass. The Kroger in OH was amazing. I never go to Kroger when I do grocery shopping. I go to Meijer. At least they have reasonably good stuff.
Being from Chicago, small town life takes getting used to. Thank goodness I have Amazon.
I only go to Kroger for Skyline and for Donato’s Pizza (a Columbus pizza chain.)
re: #257 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
We could deport him back to his own people but they’re extinct, having been wiped out by the Cro-Magnons.
That’s an insult to Neandertals, who had art and culture and stuff.
And teeth.
Just saw a fake bit of news on Twitter saying that Joss Whedon has been hired for Episode IX of Star Wars. Clicking the link takes you to the Rick Roll video.
I really don’t give a fuck that it’s a rick roll, if it’s fake news don’t retweet it. Period.
No daughter has ever said, “Daddy can I go to North Dakota?”
— Schooley (@Rschooley) September 6, 2017
so.. I’m annoyed that people are making Ivanka saying daddy weird. It’s not weird. STOP. https://t.co/NReiUVB02Q
— a girl has no name (@icedhazelnut_) September 6, 2017
Nope. It’s weird.
re: #258 MsJ
Bam. Yes. Cut to your specs. AND if so desired, pickled Jalapenos. A thousand ways. But do not overcook the pasta. Fatal.
re: #249 nines09
Secret recipe.
Can of Stagg chili, your choice. I like steakhouse.
Box #11 spaghettini
Your size shredded cheddar cheese.
Just slightly undercook the pasta (under al dente) because the chii will continue to cook with hot chli on top.
Serve.
Enjoy.
PS; Like hot sauce? Do before cheese.
boom.
That’s 3-way in Cincinnati chili lingo. (but frozen, not canned.)
re: #262 jaunte
A memory happened to strike
The pres as he stood at the mike:
“Ivanka, I’ll add,
Said Daddy, not Dad,
While asking to come, which I like.”— Limericking (@Limericking) September 6, 2017
re: #264 BeachDem
Yep. It’s a nice combo if you like the 3.
Tonight imma make steak sandwiches with TONS of fried onions. Decent rolls and shaved steak and American cheese and potato chips and iced tea.
Antigua Observer saying 1 death in Barbuda’s confirmed ‘so far’ and complete assessment to come.
Makes sense. There is no way they could have full impact yet with so much of it being destroyed. The statements the PM put out earlier today we’re so irresponsible. SMH
re: #267 JordanRules
Antigua Observer saying 1 death in Barbuda’s confirmed ‘so far’ and complete assessment to come.
Makes sense. There is no way they could have full impact yet with so much of it being destroyed. The statements the PM put out earlier today we’re so irresponsible. SMH
The initial reports on Twitter were from one person listening to the live report on TV and the note there was that the communication line was garbled, so. I haven’t read some of the others, but I’m not going to rip him for the fatality number miscommunication, since that wasn’t necessarily him.
re: #262 jaunte
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Nope. It’s weird.
It’s TOTALLY weird.
I stopped calling my dad “daddy” when I turned 10.
geeze.
re: #262 jaunte
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Nope. It’s weird.
It’s weird given their relationship and how he talks about her.
‘Get out’: Arab-owned business hit with arson attacks and defaced with swastikas in Arizona https://t.co/dKLUKob1pr
— Raw Story (@RawStory) September 6, 2017
“Make America Great Again!”
WaPo: Facebook told investigators that it sold ads during the election to a Russian biz seeking to target voters. https://t.co/jxmbcS6a5t
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) September 6, 2017
WaPo: Facebook found 3,300 ads w/digital footprints that led to the Russian biz, 470 suspicious accounts it believes operated out of Russia. https://t.co/sOEDn3dCL0
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) September 6, 2017
re: #271 DodgerFan1988
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“Make America Great Again!”
They’re the ones that need to get out. Nazi cowards.
re: #270 HappyWarrior
It’s weird given their relationship and how he talks about her.
I think this is the key.
It’s more that the relationship is weird as fuck and less about the choice of words.
We’re three or so days away from finding out if Irma’s coming to South Carolina, but even now it’s been raining like crazy for the past three days. Even if we don’t get hit hard, I think there’s going to be major flooding.
Matthew did a number here, and that one was nothing compared to Irma.
(Just thinking back on my 3-1/2 days without power.
Went to the grocery store today and it didn’t seem like anyone was freaking out. Not that crowded and no depletion of hurricainesque supplies.
But right now, it’s lightning and thunder and rain, oh my. Perhaps I should take a little break from the computer.
re: #262 jaunte
Nope. It’s weird.
1. She might not have said daddy, but he did.
2. I think Schooley was making fun of the “North Dakota” part.
re: #264 BeachDem
Yes. Some things are better frozen, some canned. IMHO Stagg does a good job and it plays well with others.
re: #275 BeachDem
Better to be prepared early. Still plenty of time to order from Amazon for supplies too.
re: #62 HappyWarrior
As for 2020 candidates. Right now, I really like Kamala Harris. I like that she’s lending her name to a lot of important bills. I like her background as a prosecutor and AG too.
Sanders rolled her with regard to his promised Free Ponies, er Medicaid-for-All bill. She thought she was calling his bluff, but he and his myrmidons won’t acknowledge it.
The next Democratic president will be the one who summons the will to tell the professional left to take a hike.
re: #278 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Better to be prepared early. Still plenty of time to order from Amazon for supplies too.
I just don’t really have much of a plan, other than getting in my car and driving west.
re: #268 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I’m not ripping him for that. Look at what he said earlier in the day.
Hon Gaston Browne, Prime Minister of #AntiguaandBarbuda on #Irma impact in #Barbuda per ABS-TV: “I have had no report of any fatalities.” pic.twitter.com/TFBh0uaWIQ
— Chris Stewart (@CStewartWPTV) September 6, 2017
06/09/2017, 5:42:18 AM: Gaston Browne: Colleagues, the Lord has protected us and we have been spared the worst of Irma.
— Gaston Browne (@gastonbrowne) September 6, 2017
It was so odd. There was no contact from Barbuda at this point so he had no idea. Bulk of his statement was reflecting conditions on Antigua. Lots of folks really thought Barbuda was okay based on this.
re: #279 Brian J.
Sanders rolled her with regard to his promised Free Ponies, er Medicaid-for-All bill. She thought she was calling his bluff, but he and his myrmidons won’t acknowledge it.
The next Democratic president will be the one who summons the will to tell the professional left to take a hike.
She’s sponsoring DREAM. As someone who works in immigration law, anyone who takes a strong stance on helping immigrants out gets my support. You’re not going to get rid of these types as easy as you think.
re: #280 BeachDem
I just don’t really have much of a plan, other than getting in my car and driving west.
That seems an acceptable plan.
I saw this tweet a couple of days ago and it seems worth reviewing too, in case there’s something to consider there:
From @TWCBryan: This is the real shit. Pointers for Floridians today: pic.twitter.com/E4vySPxHjx
— Adam Weinstein (@AdamWeinstein) September 5, 2017
re: #241 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
Irony: This happened in the capital of the Choctaw Nation.
‘You’re speaking immigrant’: Oklahoma man goes on berserk rant caught on video by Hispanic woman
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Another fine example of white nationalist “free speech.”
re: #241 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
Something extra special when a racist rant comes from a mouth with missing teeth. Can’t imagine the breath.
re: #285 Unshaken Defiance
Something extra special when a racist rant comes from a mouth with missing teeth. Can’t imagine the breath.
Probably smells too.
re: #98 HappyWarrior
TBH with you, I hope they fail big time. I consider myself staunchly left but also staunchly opposed to the Sanders wing too. For one, guy won’t even join the aprty. Don’t tell me how to run my party that you won’t even jooin. Two, Bernie isn’t anywhere near as intelligent as Clinton, Obama, and Kerry on the acutal issues. Third, they’re as impatient and know nothing as the TP is about actual policy.
I’m not on the left, but I agree. I don’t want to see the GOP candidate roll up 400+ electoral votes over some BernieBro on Election Night 2020, because means the Sandbaggers still won’t learn. They’ll never learn. The only thing to do is defeat them and drive them out, as Bill Clinton did.
re: #283 klys (maker of Silmarils)
That seems an acceptable plan.
I saw this tweet a couple of days ago and it seems worth reviewing too, in case there’s something to consider there:
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That was good—damn, I forgot to buy batteries today, though.
My big decisions will be a stay or go. I’m far enough from the beach (0.6 of a mile) to not worry about surge, and, unless it’s going to be really dangerous, I’d rather be here to address roof leaks, water over the doorjambs etc. as they happen.
re: #287 Brian J.
I’m not on the left, but I agree. I don’t want to see the GOP candidate roll up 400+ electoral votes over some BernieBro on Election Night 2020, because means the Sandbaggers still won’t learn. They’ll never learn. The only thing to do is defeat them and drive them out, as Bill Clinton did.
I am on the left, I have completely given up on the Greens (and Peace and Freedom), but I do want some of the Sanders supporters in the fold. Locally, that’s happened at least a little. For me, HRC took the Dem platform in the correct (that is, left) direction and I don’t want backsliding, I want determined promotion of political goals that by and large are pretty damn popular, and terribly underrepresented in Congress.
re: #289 petesh
I am on the left, I have completely given up on the Greens (and Peace and Freedom), but I do want some of the Sanders supporters in the fold. Locally, that’s happened at least a little. For me, HRC took the Dem platform in the correct (that is, left) direction and I don’t want backsliding, I want determined promotion of political goals that by and large are pretty damn popular, and terribly underrepresented in Congress.
Dare I say, I think Clinton articulated progrsesivism better than Sanders did since Clinton understood that progressivism is for people of all backgrounds. Sanders is still chasing a WWC pony that left the Dem coalition years ago. If these WWC want to join us, I’m fine with that but they need to realize they’re going to be sharing the dream with racial minorities, DREAMers, LGBT, etc.
re: #288 BeachDem
That was good—damn, I forgot to buy batteries today, though.
My big decisions will be a stay or go. I’m far enough from the beach (0.6 of a mile) to not worry about surge, and, unless it’s going to be really dangerous, I’d rather be here to address roof leaks, water over the doorjambs etc. as they happen.
Yeah. The tips about pre-storing stuff in plastic bags seems helpful in either case. And like I said, still plenty of time to order from Amazon. Might be easier than making another trip out.
Stupid joke time.
What’s the difference between a garbanzo bean and a chickpea?
Trump never paid to see a garbanzo bean.
re: #290 wheat-dogg
Chewing tobacco aroma, or perhaps decay from meth use.
Combined with the new robe smell that you can really smell when you’re being berated for daring to speak another language. I never got crap once for speaking English abroad this summer.
Why is Trump wearing a hoodie? Why is Ivanka a brunette? Why isn’t there wind circulation with this hurricane? So many questions… pic.twitter.com/ZssEA0qqtf
— RusNavyBlogInExile (@russiannavyblog) September 6, 2017
some conservative dipshit retweeted one of my honeybots and their followers have been talking to it for days pic.twitter.com/yecB41mR7B
— Lapsed Pacifist🌹 (@NoraReed) September 6, 2017
re: #295 jaunte
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That’s Melania not Ivanka. Oh and it’s because it’s a stupid cartoon done by someone who can’t hold Herblock’s jock.
Trump-era journalism genius: USA Today uses golf-handicap website to find out which lobbyists are at his clubs. https://t.co/FR2y3WcHNw
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) September 6, 2017
re: #289 petesh
I am on the left, I have completely given up on the Greens (and Peace and Freedom), but I do want some of the Sanders supporters in the fold. Locally, that’s happened at least a little. For me, HRC took the Dem platform in the correct (that is, left) direction and I don’t want backsliding, I want determined promotion of political goals that by and large are pretty damn popular, and terribly underrepresented in Congress.
I’m afraid that “backsliding” is going to happen. For all the proclamations otherwise, the Democrats simply moved too far for the public to go along with the ARRA/ stimulus and Obamacare and the bugs in the latter’s implementation. (And keep in mind when considering those political goals that the ACA’s provisions were very popular right up until the bill was written, at which point support from the right and the left evaporated.)
re: #298 klys (maker of Silmarils)
That is impressive!!
So reading through I’m worried about Florida for different reasons than the usual. Florida man etc. And I’m now hungry after those recipes. Playing catch up after pulling some (grateful!) long hours on good projects. I did take a moment to look around and enjoy the morning light near my coffee bar. It was quite a view this morning.
Florida Lizards we sure hope all goes as well as it can. Speaking for a lurker I know as well as myself.
Man, the model spreads. The small changes in track are going to make a big difference in what strength it makes landfall at and there’s still not a lot required to have it either interact with land or not.
The NHC forecast is the most important to watch, but under the hood, there’s tremendous agreement from ECMWF, UKMET, & GFS—our best models. pic.twitter.com/9dp3eoRfym
— Eric Holthaus (@EricHolthaus) September 6, 2017
Town mayor in Herxheim resigns after teacher complains about ‘Hitler bell’. Has hung in church tower from 1934 https://t.co/M8tIwMmv8C
— Turehu Patupaiarehe (@Patupaiarehe13) September 6, 2017
“…Initially, the town council had considered blocking access to the tower. But last month, it voted to commission an expert to assess legal and historical aspects before deciding on its next steps. One idea floated was to put the bell in a museum.
The row reached a peak last Sunday, when Becker in an interview with the public ARD television channel’s program “Kontraste” quoted a 95-year-old woman resident as saying that Hitler should also be remembered for “things he achieved.”
re: #299 Brian J.
I’m afraid that “backsliding” is going to happen. For all the proclamations otherwise, the Democrats simply moved too far for the public to go along with the ARRA/ stimulus and Obamacare and the bugs in the latter’s implementation. (And keep in mind when considering those political goals that the ACA’s provisions were very popular right up until the bill was written, at which point support from the right and the left evaporated.)
Were you just teleported here from 2011? The ARRA has been forgotten, and the ACA has been polling just fine, thenkyewverymuch, and is ripe for positive reform. Meanwhile gay marriage, DACA, military acceptance of trans, etc etc, may be struggles we have to win again but the lord and the big battalions are basically on our side.
re: #305 petesh
Were you just teleported here from 2011? The ARRA has been forgotten, and the ACA has been polling just fine, thenkyewverymuch, and is ripe for positive reform. Meanwhile gay marriage, DACA, military acceptance of trans, etc etc, may be struggles we have to win again but the lord and the big battalions are basically on our side.
A gentle reminder but we still did win the popular vote. And we still have been winning a lot of special elections (not every) in a lot of ehavily Republican areas. The issue with Sanders and his revolution isn’t really ideology in itself. It’s that they’re not team players. And frankly there are plenty of Democrats that are just as if not more progressive than Sanders in office but you’d never know it since Bernie’s treated like the only real progressive in office by people who want to divide the left.
re: #299 Brian J.
I’m afraid that “backsliding” is going to happen. For all the proclamations otherwise, the Democrats simply moved too far for the public to go along with the ARRA/ stimulus and Obamacare and the bugs in the latter’s implementation. (And keep in mind when considering those political goals that the ACA’s provisions were very popular right up until the bill was written, at which point support from the right and the left evaporated.)
Um. Huh? What the fuck are you talking about?
re: #307 MsJ
Um. Huh? What the fuck are you talking about?
I though petesh was being rather nice. Yours looks more like what I would say, but I strive for the petesh.
#HurricaneIrma caused an estimated $150 million of damage on #Barbuda, says @gastonbrowne. pic.twitter.com/t3bqLOXyt0
— Steve Herman (@W7VOA) September 6, 2017
#Barbuda described as “pretty much uninhabitable” after #HurricaneIrma. https://t.co/jOOxrd9HuN
— Steve Herman (@W7VOA) September 6, 2017
re: #308 wrenchwench
I though petesh was being rather nice. Yours looks more like what I would say, but I strive for the petesh.
Reading that drivel really pissed me off. Fuck being nice. ((sweet smile))
re: #310 MsJ
Reading that drivel really pissed me off. Fuck being nice. ((sweet smile))
The ‘f’ word, and a sweet smile. Now I have to work on the smile. :)
re: #307 MsJ
Um. Huh? What the fuck are you talking about?
I thought it was pretty clear, but I will elaborate. The ACA/ Obamacare has a lot of popular provisions concerning keeping children on their parents’ health insurance until they turn 25, limiting the spread in insurance costs between customers, the insurance mandate to increase coverage, and so on. But put them together in a bill that the Congress might pass… and suddenly, the entire package became massively unpopular as the right hated it for doing too much and the left hated it for not being single payer. And that unpopularity lasted and dragged Democrats down for seven years.
TBH I’m not as intimidated as some are about 2020. The Republican base has always hated Hillary Clinton like no other. I’m sure the propaganda will get them hating the next Dem nominee with zeal too but it’s going to be tough. Plus I don’t see this ending well for Trump. He’s quite unpopular, has very little accomplishments to run on, etc. As much as I do like and respect Clinton, Trump’s going to have a totally different challenge if he’s going to be running as an incumbent. In a sense, Trump’s had it easy being able to piss on everyone else’s record. Now he’l have to defend his.
re: #312 Brian J.
I thought it was pretty clear, but I will elaborate. The ACA/ Obamacare has a lot of popular provisions concerning keeping children on their parents’ health insurance until they turn 25, limiting the spread in insurance costs between customers, the insurance mandate to increase coverage, and so on. But put them together in a bill that the Congress might pass… and suddenly, the entire package became massively unpopular as the right hated it for doing too much and the left hated it for not being single payer. And that unpopularity lasted and dragged Democrats down for seven years.
It was still worth it. You have to take risks in politics. Did LBJ pushing for Civil Rights cost in 1966 and 1968? Yeah I’m sure it did but it was the right thing to do. Obama will go down in history as being able to get health care reform done and that’s a pretty big feather in his cap.
- Someone who won’t lose his insurance due to having a heart condition.
re: #305 petesh
Were you just teleported here from 2011? The ARRA has been forgotten, and the ACA has been polling just fine, thenkyewverymuch, and is ripe for positive reform. Meanwhile gay marriage, DACA, military acceptance of trans, etc etc, may be struggles we have to win again but the lord and the big battalions are basically on our side.
As for the ARRA, you’ve obviously forgotten the cries of PORKULUS! SOLYNDRA! and all the rest that were bellowed by Republicans and many Democrats, especially since the incoming Administration had underestimated the depth of the Great Recession, resulting in an economy that did not meet the projections Obama confidently produced in 2009. That’s when we not only lost the House but the states, resulting in hostile redistricting that will punish Democrats for years, maybe even decades, to come.
If you want to accomplish anything, you need to be clear with yourself about how popular your ideas are as a package, and not promise more than you can deliver. Otherwise, your party will pay and pay and pay.
Images show Irma damage in Barbuda; officials say destruction could be “upwards of 90%” https://t.co/5WpCIuCk4d https://t.co/GBjTj9ZeXz
— CNN (@CNN) September 6, 2017
There is zero downside for Trump in turning on Congressional Republicans. They will piss and moan and take it. https://t.co/TuEJmC3i4n
— Ben Domenech (@bdomenech) September 6, 2017
Correct https://t.co/NLR6y0ut28
— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) September 6, 2017
re: #315 Brian J.
As for the ARRA, you’ve obviously forgotten the cries of PORKULUS! SOLYNDRA! and all the rest that were bellowed by Republicans and many Democrats, especially since the incoming Administration had underestimated the depth of the Great Recession, resulting in an economy that did not meet the projections Obama confidently produced in 2009. That’s when we not only lost the House but the states, resulting in hostile redistricting that will punish Democrats for years, maybe even decades, to come.
If you want to accomplish anything, you need to be clear with yourself about how popular your ideas are as a package, and not promise more than you can deliver. Otherwise, your party will pay and pay and pay.
We lost in 2010 and 2014 because our base doesn’t value midterm elections. Don’t pin that on Obama for actually trying to do the right thing.
re: #314 HappyWarrior
It was still worth it. You have to take risks in politics. Did LBJ pushing for Civil Rights cost in 1966 and 1968? Yeah I’m sure it did but it was the right thing to do. Obama will go down in history as being able to get health care reform done and that’s a pretty big feather in his cap.
- Someone who won’t lose his insurance due to having a heart condition.
If McCain really has flipped as reports are claiming, most of the ACA is likely to go away. All that effort and all that political capital expended will have been for naught.
If that happens, Obama will be left with almost nothing as a legacy other than his skin’s melanin content and his naivete about Russian interference in our elections.
re: #312 Brian J.
I thought it was pretty clear, but I will elaborate. The ACA/ Obamacare has a lot of popular provisions concerning keeping children on their parents’ health insurance until they turn 25, limiting the spread in insurance costs between customers, the insurance mandate to increase coverage, and so on. But put them together in a bill that the Congress might pass… and suddenly, the entire package became massively unpopular as the right hated it for doing too much and the left hated it for not being single payer. And that unpopularity lasted and dragged Democrats down for seven years.
YAWN.
What wasn’t popular was the lies about Obamacare. Death panels and all that bullshit. And the right constantly talking it down. And Dems running from it. Obamacare want popular. The ACAPP was always popular.
I guess you weren’t paying attention.
re: #322 Brian J.
If McCain really has flipped as reports are claiming, most of the ACA is likely to go away. All that effort and all that political capital expended will have been for naught.
If that happens, Obama will be left with almost nothing as a legacy other than his skin’s melanin content and his naivete about Russian interference in our elections.
Yeah you’re right. Obama’s only legacy will be being black and the Russian interference. Nevermind the fact that he supported LGBT citizens like no President before him. Nevermind that he reduced unemployment after 2008 or that he helped repair relations after Bush alienated a lot of our allies. Obama was handled the most difficult situation of any President in my lifetime and he handled it very well. I have my disagreements for some of his decisions but you sell him short.
I just had three young men bring in a homemade 8’ skateboard and ask for a motor for it. I laughed.
re: #316 FormerDirtDart
So happy the death toll wasn’t higher but absolutely devastating aftermath. Jose could be coming their way this weekend. They should probably evacuate the 1600 or so inhabitants.
re: #326 wrenchwench
I just had three young men bring in a homemade 8’ skateboard and ask for a motor for it. I laughed.
That’s the sort of thing I used to do. Send ‘em my way. I’ll hook ‘em up.
re: #326 wrenchwench
I just had three young men bring in a homemade 8’ skateboard and ask for a motor for it. I laughed.
Rocket motor?
/
re: #324 MsJ
YAWN.
What wasn’t popular was the lies about Obamacare. Death panels and all that bullshit. And the right constantly talking it down. And Dems running from it. Obamacare want popular. The ACAPP was always popular.
I guess you weren’t paying attention.
I paid attention. But in the end… so what? In the end, the Democrats did lose, even though I supported them. In the end, a majority of people just didn’t want the ACA.
re: #322 Brian J.
This is very offensive. Wow.
re: #330 Brian J.
I paid attention. But in the end… so what? In the end, the Democrats did lose, even though I supported them. In the end, a majority of people just didn’t want the ACA.
That, too, is bullshit.
Oh, look, a new thread.
Thank you Jesus Charles.
re: #333 wrenchwench
Oh, look, a new thread.
Thank you
JesusCharles.
God, root, what is the difference?
re: #330 Brian J.
I paid attention. But in the end… so what? In the end, the Democrats did lose, even though I supported them. In the end, a majority of people just didn’t want the ACA.
Untrue.
re: #336 Decatur Deb
You did pay a fortune for them.
Well, to be fair, the taxpayers did.
Thanks guys!
re: #331 JordanRules
This is very offensive. Wow.
I’m sorry if the truth offends, but if McCain now supports repeal, then it’s going to happen at some point, with 50 Senators and a majority of House members in favor. And Obama just didn’t get much else in the way of domestic legislation passed and had no notable foreign policy successes (or failures).
At some point, you’ve got to get over your offense and look at the world as it is.
re: #340 Brian J.
Quick, quick, tell us how much of an echo chamber we are because we all disagree with you. I’m always fond of that one!
re: #322 Brian J.
re: #322 Brian J.
If McCain really has flipped as reports are claiming, most of the ACA is likely to go away. All that effort and all that political capital expended will have been for naught.
If that happens, Obama will be left with almost nothing as a legacy other than his skin’s melanin content and his naivete about Russian interference in our elections.
“all for naught”, except of course the real world consequences where it helped real people with real problems (myself included). I’m not touching your second point since it’s an obvious troll attempt and will likely be dealt with appropriately by others lizards.
re: #343 Jason Munro
“all for naught”, except of course the real world consequences where it helped real people with real problems (myself included). I’m not touching your second point since it’s an obvious troll attempt and will likely be dealt with appropriately by others lizards.
I’m still wondering how exactly Obama was supposed to help with the claims of Russian interference. Republicans would have claimed sour grapes, and Obama would have been revealing classified information that could have gotten him in trouble, and for what? Starting the independent investigation a few months sooner? It wasn’t going to invalidate the election, no matter what - and if it did, it would set a terrifying precedent.
re: #319 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Being mansplained to again?
More like contrarian-splained. More gender-neutral.
re: #345 makeitstop
More like contrarian-splained. More gender-neutral.
I figured it out. I missed the malodorous entry at first. Allergies, yanno.
re: #340 Brian J.
And Obama just didn’t get much else in the way of domestic legislation passed and had no notable foreign policy successes (or failures).
Osama bin Laden would say hi if he wasn’t fucking dead. Thanks, Obama.
re: #315 Brian J.
As for the ARRA, you’ve obviously forgotten the cries of PORKULUS! SOLYNDRA! and all the rest that were bellowed by Republicans and many Democrats, especially since the incoming Administration had underestimated the depth of the Great Recession, resulting in an economy that did not meet the projections Obama confidently produced in 2009. That’s when we not only lost the House but the states, resulting in hostile redistricting that will punish Democrats for years, maybe even decades, to come.
If you want to accomplish anything, you need to be clear with yourself about how popular your ideas are as a package, and not promise more than you can deliver. Otherwise, your party will pay and pay and pay.
And right there, he moved the goalposts.
re: #349 Blind Frog Belly White
And right there, he moved the goalposts.
At this point, the goalposts are on a rocket sled.
re: #328 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
That’s the sort of thing I used to do. Send ‘em my way. I’ll hook ‘em up.
Sounds like a string trimmer motor is in play.
I did an instruction booklet many years ago for how to mount a gas Ryobi string trimmer motor to a scooter. It actually worked pretty well.
re: #351 ObserverArt
Sounds like a string trimmer motor is in play.
I did an instruction booklet many years ago for how to mount a gas Ryobi string trimmer motor to a scooter. It actually worked pretty well.
Nailed it in one. Light weight, two-cycle (low maintenance due to not needing oil changes), and just enough power to be stupid without being truly dangerous.
re: #330 Brian J.
I paid attention. But in the end… so what? In the end, the Democrats did lose, even though I supported them. In the end, a majority of people just didn’t want the ACA.
Who among us would not gladly die from pre-existing conditions!!
re: #262 jaunte
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Nope. It’s weird.
and who knows? He might have been talking about Heidi…
re: #6 freetoken
He treats all his servants that way.
re: #308 wrenchwench
I though petesh was being rather nice. Yours looks more like what I would say, but I strive for the petesh.
Gosh, golly, gee wiz. (Are you sure you’re OK?)
re: #176 klys (maker of Silmarils)
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The news is not good. It sounds like the PM is saying over 1000 fatalities but the line connection isn’t good and he’s apparently hard to understand.
Their entire population is was only 1638.
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