The Bob Cesca Show: Hey Whah Happun

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Hey Whah Happun: The amazing Kimberley Johnson is here today; Hillary’s book is out today; Hillary haters on the left; Ted Cruz liked a porn video on Twitter; Steve Bannon’s throbbing dewlap; Steve Bannon on Trump and Russia; Devin Nunes derped again; Russian politician confirms attack on the election; Sputnik and RT contacted by Mueller; Bannon v Kushner; Justice Department debunks wiretapping of Trump Tower; Buy Bob’s reading of the Steele Dossier via Patreon and Band Camp; and much more.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:06:44pm
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nines09  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:08:53pm

re: #1 Stanley Sea

That always looks good on prison yard greys….

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:09:40pm
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Belafon  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:16:26pm

Charles Gaba over at Daily Kos does a great job of bringing up the problems of implementing Medicare for All. He doesn’t dismiss the idea, he just wants to know the details.

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MsJ  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:25:25pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:25:41pm

hillary is surely the person hated most by people in their own party as well as the opposing that ever won the popular vote for president by a solid margin

i just don’t grok this hillary hate thing

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:26:16pm

From the last thread

re: #89 CongoJack

… Kansas…
I’m ashamed to have been born and raised in that state.

Thank dog I moved to Colorado (belated wave to Anymouse who just drove by my town a day or two ago).

What town is that? (I went through Peetz to Sterling on Colo. 113 to US-138, then west on Colo. 14 to Colo. 71 back towards Scottsbluff).

re: #272 makeitstop

I’ll bet he’s got a fear of being called out for being stanky, probably due to bad hygiene.

He’s been noticed wearing multiple shirts a few times IIRC.

Stonekettle addressed why he does that a couple days ago:

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MsJ  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:28:17pm

Because of course.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:28:20pm

count on it, we will soon begin to see other “nationalists” starting to wear two and three shirts at the same time

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MsJ  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:32:26pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:32:37pm

I can’t wait for Twitter’s right wing troll armies to lose interest in me and move on to their next target. This is fucking ridiculous. My mentions have been a deluge of ugly insults, racist comments, and wishes for my death all fucking day.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:35:13pm
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nines09  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:35:28pm
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:35:44pm

re: #9 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

count on it, we will soon begin to see other “nationalists” starting to wear two and three shirts at the same time

The only person I had seen dress like that was Michael Stipe in the early 1980s. He and Peter Buck came to my freshman comp class to talk about songwriting. Stipe had on two pairs of jeans and two long-sleeve shirts. Buck was wearing a tuxedo shirt that made me think he hadn’t changed after a gig.

I doubt there’s a connection to Bannon.

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MsJ  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:35:48pm

Ugh.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:36:55pm

re: #14 Barefoot Grin

The only person I had seen dress like that was Michael Stipe in the early 1980s. He and Peter Buck came to my freshman comp class to talk about songwriting. Stipe had on two pairs of jeans and two long-sleeve shirts. Buck was wearing a tuxedo shirt that made me think he hadn’t changed after a gig.

I doubt there’s a connection to Bannon.

why can’t they just wear onions on their belts like normal people?

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Myron Falwell  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:37:14pm

re: #15 MsJ

Ugh.

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Like a hemorrhoid that will never go away.

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Myron Falwell  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:37:48pm

re: #16 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

why can’t they just wear onions on their belts like normal people?

That was the style at the time, don’t ya know

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:39:20pm

Female-Led “Greatest American Hero” Reboot Lands at ABC (goes to Hollywood Reporter)

Cue whinging from MRAs, conservatives, and people who don’t like reboots.

A female-led reboot of the beloved ’80s series has landed at ABC with a hefty put pilot commitment, The Hollywood Reporter has confirmed.

The single-camera, half-hour comedy remake follows Meera, a 30-year-old Indian-American woman from Cleveland, whose talents include tequila drinking and karaoke and not much else. Then some aliens entrust her with a super suit to protect the planet, and the world has never been in more unreliable hands.

The original series was an hourlong and starred a white male actor (William Katt) in the lead role. The show, also known for its catchy theme song, debuted on ABC in 1981 and ran for three seasons.

(more at the link)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:39:27pm

i used to know a guy who wore two shirts, plus and undershirt. In his case, I think it was because if he didn’t you’d be able to tell how skinny he was.

Pretty sure that’s not Bannon’s reason.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:41:11pm

Having now read two very favorable reviews of Hillary’s book, I’ve concluded that the people who tell you how awful it is that she won’t take any responsibility and blames it all on Bernie haven’t read it.

Shocker, I know.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:43:22pm

re: #13 nines09

Well, there is the problem that millions more live in Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina than in the US Virgin Islands.

That said, the territory is also American and ignoring its plight emphasises again that an American living in a territory is more like a second-class citizen.

Perhaps USVI should get attention by applying for statehood.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:44:27pm

re: #20 Blind Frog Belly White

i used to know a guy who wore two shirts, plus and undershirt. In his case, I think it was because if he didn’t you’d be able to tell how skinny he was.

Pretty sure that’s not Bannon’s reason.

I’ve been known to wear two shirts, because I am very thin and sometimes I get cold (even in the summer).

I don’t really think Mr. Bannon is suffering from that problem.

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William Lewis  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:44:32pm

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹

Female-Led “Greatest American Hero” Reboot Lands at ABC (goes to Hollywood Reporter)

Cue whinging from MRAs, conservatives, and people who don’t like reboots.

(more at the link)

I actually liked the original show but I like the sound of the reboot even better.

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ObserverArt  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:47:18pm

re: #4 Belafon

Charles Gaba over at Daily Kos does a great job of bringing up the problems of implementing Medicare for All. He doesn’t dismiss the idea, he just wants to know the details.

I will read…but I wonder, any input from Bernie?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:48:18pm

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹

Female-Led “Greatest American Hero” Reboot Lands at ABC (goes to Hollywood Reporter)

Cue whinging from MRAs, conservatives, and people who don’t like reboots.

(more at the link)

I’ve about had it with MRAs, conservatives, Nazis, Kluxers, BernieBros, Progressives, and a whole bunch of other people. I know a lot of people, when they start feeling like this, will take a break from social media. But not me. I realize that the problem isn’t me. It’s them. They’re assholes. They SHOULD make reasonable people mad.

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nines09  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:48:52pm

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹

Perhaps our government needs to represent all equally. Sorry. Not sure what I was thinking….

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William Lewis  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:49:00pm

re: #23 Anymouse 🌹

I’ve been known to wear two shirts, because I am very thin and sometimes I get cold (even in the summer).

I don’t really think Mr. Bannon is suffering from that problem.

My son almost always wears two layers but it has to do with his mental health issues and it makes him feel more comfortable to wear his pajamas under his regular cloths. I don’t care so long as I can get him to change cloths once in awhile… O_o

Teen aged boy who hasn’t discovered girls yet. Stinky combination occasionally ;)

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ObserverArt  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:49:09pm

re: #5 MsJ

Joe Pompeo ✔ @joepompeo
Maggie Haberman and Glenn Thrush Take the Next Step with Trump vanityfair.com
6:44 PM - Sep 12, 2017

I think it is too early for them to be writing a book.

They need some time to get over themselves.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:56:48pm
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MsJ  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:59:09pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2017 • 5:59:50pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:01:26pm

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ignatz kat requires that he be allowed to sample whatever the humans are eating

he discovered that besides of course loving meat and fish, he is very fond of strawberries, melons, potato chips, and wheat thins

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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:02:10pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:03:51pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

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The problem is if 98% of the protestors are nonviolent, but there are 10-20 of those idiots in the black hoodies and masks, that’s enough to fuck everything up.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:07:49pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:08:50pm

re: #27 nines09

Perhaps our government needs to represent all equally. Sorry. Not sure what I was thinking….

It should. The Constitution doesn’t allow for a right to vote for people in territories though. The news media doesn’t treat a territory with 100,000 people the same as a state (Florida) 20,000,000 (two hundred time the USVI).

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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:09:22pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:11:03pm
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MsJ  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:11:47pm

(((faints))) (((thud)))

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:12:10pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:13:23pm

re: #36 Blind Frog Belly White

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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:13:32pm
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I cannot.  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:13:54pm

As Ron Simmons would say…DAMN.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:16:56pm
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JordanRules  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:16:58pm
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FormerDirtDart  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:17:53pm
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Belafon  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:17:54pm

re: #44 I cannot.

Did he think only white people knew wrestling moves?

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MsJ  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:18:50pm

re: #47 FormerDirtDart

Color me completely not surprised.

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JordanRules  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:19:04pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

For real! I need her to speak out on her deprogramming regimen.

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Belafon  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:19:11pm

re: #44 I cannot.

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William Lewis  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:22:00pm

re: #44 I cannot.

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As Ron Simmons would say…DAMN.

I’m not sure how to feel on this one - that move could have easily killed or made a paraplegic out of that fucker. In the end, I’m glad the man defended himself against the overgrown child. Perhaps the idiot will learn a lesson, though I doubt it.

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MsJ  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:22:15pm

re: #44 I cannot.

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As Ron Simmons would say…DAMN.

If this is true (I’m not a fan of violence except to fuck up Nazis and KKK bigotd as often as possible), then this mass of white supremecy continues the trend of having 50 pounds of excess supremacy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:22:55pm

re: #35 Blind Frog Belly White

The problem is if 98% of the protestors are nonviolent, but there are 10-20 of those idiots in the black hoodies and masks, that’s enough to fuck everything up.

A great amount of the “non-violence” calls are for optics. The GOP doesn’t care about optics. Condemn those who are violent as not part of the broader movement, and move on.

Whitewashing of the Civil Rights Movement today makes it appear that Martin Luther King Jr. was all about, and only about, non-violence. While he preached (both as a minister and as an activist) non-violence, he accepted there would be incidents.

Listing numerous ongoing injustices toward black people, including himself, King said, “Perhaps it is easy for those who have never felt the stinging darts of segregation to say, ‘Wait.’” Along similar lines, King also lamented the “myth concerning time,” by which white moderates assumed that progress toward equal rights was inevitable, so assertive activism was unnecessary.

en.wikipedia.org

No one should promote violence as a tool of political protest, particularly when one side is willing to kill. Note Rev. Dr. King carried a gun himself. Self-protection is an absolute right.

mic.com (more at Mic):

Just like his memorial in Washington, D.C., King’s legacy has been locked in stone. He became a symbol of peace devoid of rebelliousness that defined his life of activism, of the protests and boycotts that totaled 30 arrests in the course of his life. He was a vocal dissident of capitalism and gave contentious speeches like “Can a Christian Be a Communist?” at during the time of the Red Scare and when McCarthyism pervaded America. He spoke out against America’s imperialism and, specifically, its involvement in Vietnam.

“A strong man must be militant as well as moderate,” Dr. King described himself in a lengthy 1964 interview with Playboy. “He must be a realist as well as an idealist. If I am to merit the trust invested in me by some of my race, I must be both of these things.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:26:10pm

That would be the paedophile apologist Milo Yiannopolis who was setting up to defraud his supporters by claiming his home in Florida was destroyed when it was someone else’s home?

He should always be referred to as paedo-apologist for his title. Remind his supporters what he really stands for.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:27:03pm

re: #52 William Lewis

I’m not sure how to feel on this one - that move could have easily killed or made a paraplegic out of that fucker. In the end, I’m glad the man defended himself against the overgrown child. Perhaps the idiot will learn a lesson, though I doubt it.

The martial arts teach that your main objective in a fight is to incapacitate your opponent as quickly as possible. I think that’s the philosophy of krav maga, at least.

But yeah, some moves can be fatal or seriously damaging to the opponent.

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EPR-radar  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:28:19pm

re: #47 FormerDirtDart

tr*mp will sign this because he is too chickenshit to own his own racism, but he will delay the signing to signal to the deplorables that he doesn’t mean it.

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Belafon  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:28:38pm

re: #52 William Lewis

I’m not sure how to feel on this one - that move could have easily killed or made a paraplegic out of that fucker. In the end, I’m glad the man defended himself against the overgrown child. Perhaps the idiot will learn a lesson, though I doubt it.

Watching the video, it was either going to take the police or a serious injury to stop the fight. Like you, I’m glad the injury wasn’t to the head. I also think the guy had a right to defend himself.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:29:05pm
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JordanRules  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:29:19pm
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danarchy  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:29:28pm

re: #52 William Lewis

I’m not sure how to feel on this one - that move could have easily killed or made a paraplegic out of that fucker. In the end, I’m glad the man defended himself against the overgrown child. Perhaps the idiot will learn a lesson, though I doubt it.

There are absolutely no details in this. The fight is in progress when the video starts for all we know it was an argument over parking spot or something stupid. As for “suspected white supremacist” I’d like a little evidence of that too. Where did this happen, when did it happen, can I look up a local news report. All I see are two guys fighting and one guy almost getting his neck broken.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:30:20pm

re: #52 William Lewis

If I were attacked I’d use that move in a second. Of course we have zero video how they came to fight.

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MsJ  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:31:29pm

This is shocking. They’re actually doing things.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:31:55pm

re: #58 Belafon

Watching the video, it was either going to take the police or a serious injury to stop the fight. Like you, I’m glad the injury wasn’t to the head. I also think the guy had a right to defend himself.

I think the guys head took a very significant hit.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:32:58pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:33:49pm
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MsJ  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:33:55pm

re: #62 Unshaken Defiance

If I were attacked I’d use that move in a second. Of course we have zero video how they came to fight.

IF that guy started the fight, whatever happens to him happens to him. I can’t feel too sorry for an instigator - whatever happens to him.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:34:05pm

Ben Shapiro is a despicable piglet.

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JordanRules  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:34:36pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:38:43pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:39:25pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:39:41pm

re: #66 Stanley Sea

Democrats just flipped another district

i’m convinced that the election of the trump entity was the outcome most likely to lead to democratic dominance in congress in the near future

but what a cost

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bratwurst  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:42:30pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:43:29pm
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Belafon  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:44:31pm

re: #63 MsJ

This is shocking. They’re actually doing things.

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McConnell and Ryan seem to have lost a bit of power.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:44:52pm

Well, the tidal wave of hate-tweets is slowing down at last.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:45:12pm

dunno if ennyboddy else posted this article on the strauss-howe theory and its application to the current mishegas, but i found it to be an interesting summary and thot provoking

luckyottershaven.com

altho perhaps provoking thoughts might be a dangerous pastime…

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:45:25pm

Tomorrow is National POW/MIA Recognition Day (putting on my village flag committee chair hat), the third Friday in September.

As such, my wife put her Betsy Ross apron on and repaired the village park’s state and POW flags.

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MsJ  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:47:20pm
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Decatur Deb  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:49:45pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

I actually believe @tedcruz that a “staffer” liked that porn tweet, because he’s far too cunning to reveal himself like that.

But not cunning enough to keep a sticky-fingered underling out of his account. Hell, I don’t even trust me enough to run my Tweets.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:50:44pm
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JordanRules  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:52:44pm

re: #80 Decatur Deb

I think they let staffers tweet for them.

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meteor  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:53:48pm

OT: you know what’s weird? When I view this site with Safari on my phone, it shuts down my music apps. I was having fun with Spotify and suddenly pfffft. :(

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:53:56pm

re: #81 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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This is the real legacy. The overweighting of the judiciary with conservative fucktards justices. It’s going to get worse.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:54:40pm

re: #82 JordanRules

I think they let staffers tweet for them.

So they trumpet their stupidity in adopting that policy or in selecting the staffers.

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petesh  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:55:22pm

Oh dear, who is Ryan Cooper and should I bother to rebut this:
theweek.com

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William Lewis  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:56:21pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

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So that explains why he always has such a “Cunning Plan”…

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MsJ  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:57:10pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:57:10pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2017 • 6:58:30pm

US-CERT (Homeland Security’s division regarding cyber crime and software weaknesses) has an E-mail list for warnings.

This just popped up in my box. I don’t know anything about Bluetooth or the so-called Internet of Things since I don’t own such devices, so I don’t know if it is important to people who own fantasy-story items like cell phones or refrigerators that talk to computers.

Original release date: September 12, 2017
US-CERT is aware of a collection of Bluetooth vulnerabilities, known as BlueBorne, potentially affecting millions of unpatched mobile phones, computers, and Internet of Things (IoT) devices. A remote attacker could exploit several of these vulnerabilities to take control of affected devices.
US-CERT recommends that users and administrators read Vulnerability Note VU#240311 for more information.

The linked Vulnerability Note at US-CERT seems to call out a great number of vulnerabilities in Bluetooth, for which Microsoft (Windows), Android, iOS, and Linux kernel now have available patches.

They also note at that release:

Check with your device manufacturer to determine if firmware updates will be available.

Phones and other mobile devices in the US running Android are likely to see delayed updates, or possibly never receive updates, due to the complexity of the US mobile ecosystem which typically requires manufacturer and carrier support to push updates.

If an update is not available, affected users should consider the following workaround

Disable Bluetooth on your device

Affected users should consider disabling Bluetooth on affected devices if Bluetooth is unused or unnecessary.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:00:31pm

re: #87 William Lewis

So that explains why he always has such a “Cunning Plan”…

Could the entire Trump administration just be the lost episodes of Blackadder?

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Belafon  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:00:35pm

re: #66 Stanley Sea

As the DK article points out, Democrats also flipped a NH seat: dailykos.com.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:03:08pm

re: #86 petesh

Oh dear, who is Ryan Cooper and should I bother to rebut this:
theweek.com

Ryan Cooper is a national correspondent at theweek.com. His work has appeared in the Washington Monthly, The New Republic, and the Washington Post.

theweek.com

Nobody I ever heard of.

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William Lewis  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:13:50pm

re: #91 Decatur Deb

Could the entire Trump administration just be the lost episodes of Blackadder?

Nah. For the simple reason that I doubt that any of them could match Captain Edmund Blackadder’s courage at the end of the episode in facing his death.

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austin_blue  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:17:17pm

re: #94 William Lewis

Nah. For the simple reason that I doubt that any of them could match Captain Edmund Blackadder’s courage at the end of the episode in facing his death.

Or have a cunning plan like Baldrick.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:17:42pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:20:04pm
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Interesting Times  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:22:48pm

re: #88 MsJ

At this rate, I’m wondering if the five fascists of SCOTUS would overturn previous rulings against poll taxes and literacy tests.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:24:51pm

re: #98 Interesting Times

That’s the last line of defense before it falls on us in the streets.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:24:55pm

washingtonpost.com

Nursing. One of the nation’s most dangerous professions. Nurses are assaulted or injured far more often than police officers, for example.

The Salt Lake City nurse that was assaulted by a police officer made the national news, because of the abuse of police authority, not the assault.

The Washington Post article has a number of dangerous encounters nurses had over the past few months that didn’t get much coverage, perpetrated by patients. Those would be the encounters that were reported on. (There were likely more.)

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:26:02pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

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Can’t wait to hear Huckabee-Sanders drawl her way through this.

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Belafon  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:27:18pm

re: #101 Barefoot Grin

Can’t wait to hear Huckabee-Sanders drawl her way through this.

“The Senate and House ruled unanimously. The president didn’t feel a need to add his voice.”

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JordanRules  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:27:32pm

re: #99 Unshaken Defiance

Indeed. Still freaked out that all this is happening, but that’s better than thinking it’s all just the evolution of normal.

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Myron Falwell  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:28:01pm

re: #98 Interesting Times

At this rate, I’m wondering if the five fascists of SCOTUS would overturn previous rulings against poll taxes and literacy tests.

Gorsuck is an illegitimate jurist on there, and no one is saying it.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:28:40pm
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MsJ  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:29:50pm

Please pass this along to any horse lovers you might know. This just came through my email rescue list.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:30:05pm

re: #104 Myron Falwell

Gorsuck is an illegitimate jurist on there, and no one is saying it.

Just as you should always reference him as paedo-apologist Milo Yiannopolis, you should always address our newest justice as Frozen-trucker Neil Gorsuch.

Framing what such men actually stand for is important.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:30:54pm

re: #101 Barefoot Grin

Can’t wait to hear Huckabee-Sanders drawl her way through this.

I know this sounds like grotesque stereotyping, and it is. I’m sorry. But I just got home an hour or two ago and while in my car I heard sniveling Mark Levin say some thing about taking back the country while under attack from the “north, east, and west; but we have the south.”

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JordanRules  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:34:02pm
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Myron Falwell  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:37:45pm

re: #108 Barefoot Grin

I know this sounds like grotesque stereotyping, and it is. I’m sorry. But I just got home an hour or two ago and while in my car I heard sniveling Mark Levin say some thing about taking back the country while under attack from the “north, east, and west; but we have the south.”

Mark Levin is probably the worst clown to emerge this side of Pennywise. And Cumulus Media has him under contract through 2022.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:39:50pm
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Brian J.  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:46:32pm

re: #105 FormerDirtDart

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This does not speak well of the leadership abilities of Senators Harris, Warren, or Booker. They allowed themselves to be buffaloed into endorsing vaporware. All of them want to be President, but you don’t get there by following the herd.

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scottslemmons  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:46:34pm

re: #109 JordanRules

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Betcha Patrick Kelly’s about to lose his Twitter account…

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electrotek  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:48:11pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:48:19pm

Someone suggested here yesterday that since we have a pirate Christian preaching radio station now drowning out our very weak NPR station, if I wanted to listen to this morning’s Morning Edition interview with Hillary Clinton I should stream it from the station.

The station does not do Webcasts, but links to Nebraska Educational Television. NET radio did not Webcast the interview, though they provided a text transcript this evening from NPR.

npr.org

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:50:42pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:50:53pm

re: #112 Brian J.

This does not speak well of the leadership abilities of Senators Harris, Warren, or Booker. They allowed themselves to be buffaloed into endorsing vaporware. All of them want to be President, but you don’t get there by following the herd.

Unlike the Republicans railing endlessly against the ACA with no plan of their own other than “die quickly,” the Democrats can actually write a plan to vote on.

Part of the problem with politics is people focus on grand themes and not the nitty-gritty of issues. You can absolutely run a campaign on, for example, “Medicare for All” (which fits on a bumper sticker) while writing the plans on how to implement that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:54:34pm

re: #113 scottslemmons

Betcha Patrick Kelly’s about to lose his Twitter account…

I wouldn’t hold my breath. Twitter doesn’t exactly have a stellar reputation for removing genocide apologists (Freeze Peach).

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Dave In Austin  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:56:51pm

Nazi Moth on the porch tonite. See the “Deaths Head”?

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Brian J.  Sep 12, 2017 • 7:57:48pm

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹

Can, but didn’t. And these Senators are following the lead of a man who has never written a substantive piece of legislation in 27 years in Congress.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:04:18pm

Just got another US-CERT message referencing the bluetooth problem I noted above. Microsoft has now come out with fixes for a wide array of its software in updates, and Adobe has out now fixes for several Adobe programs that run in Windows, Linux, Macintosh, and Chrome OS.

The Bluetooth vulnerability apparently allows an attacker to overtake your operating system through the exploit in Bluetooth.

I’m off to do the appropriate updates to my computer, if for some reason I disappear.

helpx.adobe.com

Adobe lists the update as priority 1 (I assume that’s important).

portal.msrc.microsoft.com

The same goes for Microsoft (including Office for Mac).

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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:05:05pm
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MsJ  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:06:49pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:06:58pm

re: #121 Brian J.

Can, but didn’t. And these Senators are following the lead of a man who has never written a substantive piece of legislation in 27 years in Congress.

I don’t know about the other two, but Elizabeth Warren doesn’t strike me as “following Bernie Sanders.” I can picture Senator Warren taking Senator Sanders’s idea (which a variant of was also Hillary Clinton’s idea in the Nineties, and even Teddy Roosevelt’s idea), and making actual legislation out of it. (Though the CFPB is under attack from the GOP, it is a good example of what Sen. Warren can do.)

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austin_blue  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:08:12pm

re: #123 Charles Johnson

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:12:12pm

Fuck Bernie Sanders forever.

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scottslemmons  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:12:50pm

re: #126 austin_blue

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Brian J.  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:13:13pm

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t know about the other two, but Elizabeth Warren doesn’t strike me as “following Bernie Sanders.” I can picture Senator Warren taking Senator Sanders’s idea (which a variant of was also Hillary Clinton’s idea in the Nineties, and even Teddy Roosevelt’s idea), and making actual legislation out of it. (Though the CFPB is under attack from the GOP, it is a good example of what Sen. Warren can do.)

Well, that’s what she did this time. And not for the first time- after writing a letter asking Hillary to run, she withheld her endorsement until the Democratic convention.

As for how the GOP runs against this, the California single-payer bill was estimated to cost $200 billion per year. (California’s entire state budget is about $125 billion for 2017-18.) Extrapolate that to the federal level, and your annual cost is something around $1.5 trillion. (By comparison, all income taxes levied by Uncle Sam raised $1.37 trillion in fiscal 2014.)

One, five zero zero, zero zero zero, zero zero zero, zero zero zero dollars. Per year. Think the Republicans can’t campaign successfully against that? Check the results of elections for the last 40 years.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:19:04pm
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jaunte  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:22:17pm

re: #123 Charles Johnson

Hannity isn’t capable of writing English. But maybe I just bias.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:22:22pm

re: #129 Brian J.

“Let’s quit, it’s too hard.” Shorter version.

I don’t know the answer. I do know our medical system as currently designed is unsustainable.

I don’t have to pay anything for medical insurance premiums. The government provides both me and my wife with socialised medical care and single-payer health insurance.

I do know if everyone had what I did, they wouldn’t be paying insurance premiums to a health insurance company, and facing bankruptcy from a debilitating medical condition like my sister is now over her wife’s cancer. (It is a travesty that in the wealthiest country in the world, my sister has to set up a GoFundMe account so she can pay the medical bills.)

We already run socialised medical systems (VA, military medical) and single-payer systems (Tricare/CHAMPUS, Medicare).

I don’t claim to be a good slogan writer. It would seem to me that “going bankrupt” is more important to people than “slightly higher taxes,” but maybe that’s just me. Maybe there has been too much conservative propaganda for so long that even liberals are willing to throw in the towel without trying.

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whitebeach  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:24:53pm

re: #129 Brian J.

One, five zero zero, zero zero zero, zero zero zero, zero zero zero dollars. Per year. Think the Republicans can’t campaign successfully against that? Check the results of elections for the last 40 years.

Damn, dude. All those zeros. Kinda makes you wonder how all those shitty little European nations, not to mention crapholes like Japan and Canada and Mexico, manage to get ‘er done anyway, don’t it?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:28:02pm

re: #130 Dave In Austin

Wow, did you see the disclaimer at the bottom of the article?

“Note to our readers: Please share/tweet our articles. Trump supporting trolls targeted our accounts and reported them en masse, without cause. This triggered seemingly automatic suspensions. Twitter support has failed to address this issue. Thank you!”

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whitebeach  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:29:21pm

re: #132 Anymouse 🌹

“Let’s quit, it’s too hard.” Shorter version.

I don’t know the answer. I do know our medical system as currently designed is unsustainable.

I don’t have to pay anything for medical insurance premiums. The government provides both me and my wife with socialised medical care and single-payer health insurance.

I do know if everyone had what I did, they wouldn’t be paying insurance premiums to a health insurance company, and facing bankruptcy from a debilitating medical condition like my sister is now over her wife’s cancer. (It is a travesty that in the wealthiest country in the world, my sister has to set up a GoFundMe account so she can pay the medical bills.)

We already run socialised medical systems (VA, military medical) and single-payer systems (Tricare/CHAMPUS, Medicare).

I don’t claim to be a good slogan writer. It would seem to me that “going bankrupt” is more important to people than “slightly higher taxes,” but maybe that’s just me. Maybe there has been too much conservative propaganda for so long that even liberals are willing to throw in the towel without trying.

Flat truth.

I could kiss you, man. Except, after all, you have posted pix of yourself here. So just accept my thanks.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:29:24pm

re: #133 whitebeach

Damn, dude. All those zeros. Kinda makes you wonder how all those shitty little European nations, not to mention crapholes like Japan and Canada and Mexico, manage to get ‘er done anyway, don’t it?

Significantly smaller populations. Also medicine is far cheaper. American medicine is ridiculously expensive.

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William Lewis  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:30:37pm

re: #136 Eclectic Cyborg

Significantly smaller populations. Also medicine is far cheaper. American medicine is ridiculously expensive.

I just ordered a 90 supply of one of my prescriptions from Canada. 90 tablets cost me less than one tablet here.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:32:18pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:33:10pm

re: #135 whitebeach

Flat truth.

I could kiss you, man. Except, after all, you have posted pix of yourself here. So just accept my thanks.

LOL. I’ll pass on the kiss, thanks.

I would plump for my sister’s GoFundMe but I don’t think that fits in the rules of Mr. Johnson’s home for us here.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:33:18pm

re: #131 jaunte

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Hannity isn’t capable of writing English. But maybe I just bias.

Just because it’s negative doesn’t mean it’s biased.

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whitebeach  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:33:46pm

re: #136 Eclectic Cyborg

Significantly smaller populations. Also medicine is far cheaper. American medicine is ridiculously expensive.

Because those other countries use the influence and bargaining power of their governments to hold pharm costs down. Do you think the price of the same pill in Canada is a fraction of what it is here because Big Pharma is operating at some kind of charitable loss in Canada? Same goes for size of population. If anything, size of customer base should allow for savings of scale, not the reverse.

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jaunte  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:34:31pm

re: #138 goddamnedfrank

Bitbean.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:34:32pm

re: #133 whitebeach

Damn, dude. All those zeros. Kinda makes you wonder how all those shitty little European nations, not to mention crapholes like Japan and Canada and Mexico, manage to get ‘er done anyway, don’t it?

for one thing, many of them appealed to the national good in earlier days before the gospel of selfishness and racism crept in

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:34:43pm

re: #137 William Lewis

I just ordered a 90 supply of one of my prescriptions from Canada. 90 tablets cost me less than on tablet here.

My medications are provided free, mailed by the government. My wife’s include a $3 copay to get from a civilian pharmacy (but she can also sign up for free government delivery).

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danarchy  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:35:09pm

re: #132 Anymouse 🌹

We already run socialised medical systems (VA, military medical) and single-payer systems (Tricare/CHAMPUS, Medicare).

I don’t claim to be a good slogan writer. It would seem to me that “going bankrupt” is more important to people than “slightly higher taxes,” but maybe that’s just me. Maybe there has been too much conservative propaganda for so long that even liberals are willing to throw in the towel without trying.

The real problem is that the Federal government already spends more on medicaid, medicare, and VA per capita than the Canadian government does to provide healthcare for all. That is per capita not for just the people covered by them. The problem is these programs are not allowed to negotiate prices. We subsidize pharmaceutical costs for the rest of the world the way we subsidize military expenditure for much of the world.

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electrotek  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:36:05pm

Anyone in for some Brazilian prog-rock tonight?

O Terço - Adormeceu

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:36:25pm

Updates from Microsoft are taking forever to download. Perhaps I shouldn’t have used an acoustic coupler to connect to the update site. /s

Adobe has finished and is demanding I restart Firefox.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:38:18pm

re: #143 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

for one thing, many of them appealed to the national good in earlier days before the gospel of selfishness and racism crept in

Well, and they started before healthcare got so expensive.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:38:28pm

re: #145 danarchy

The real problem is that the Federal government already spends more on medicaid, medicare, and VA per capita than the Canadian government does to provide healthcare for all. That is per capita not for just the people covered by them. The problem is these programs are not allowed to negotiate prices. We subsidize pharmaceutical costs for the rest of the world the way we subsidize military expenditure for much of the world.

That is a fixable problem (also GW Bush’s Medicare Part D). A government that negotiates on behalf of 320,000,000 citizens has a powerful tool.

The fix isn’t easy though, as it requires repealing laws preventing the government from negotiating. (As for the VA, they do negotiate prices.)

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William Lewis  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:39:00pm

re: #144 Anymouse 🌹

My medications are provided free, mailed by the government. My wife’s include a $3 copay to get from a civilian pharmacy (but she can also sign up for free government delivery).

I didn’t retire (only 16 years) and I made the mistake of not trying for the disability I could have gotten once upon a lifetime. SO I do what I can to get the cheapest I can.

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William Lewis  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:40:06pm

re: #146 electrotek

Anyone in for some Brazilian prog-rock tonight?

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Nice. But this is the mood I’m in tonight. I need a superstrat’s cry…

Mark Knopfler “Telegraph Road” 2005 Rome GREAT QUALITY!!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:40:15pm

re: #141 whitebeach

Because those other countries use the influence and bargaining power of their governments to hold pharm costs down. Do you think the price of the same pill in Canada is a fraction of what it is here because Big Pharma is operating at some kind of charitable loss in Canada? Same goes for size of population. If anything, size of customer base should allow for savings of scale, not the reverse.

i’ve talked to wingnuts who have fully swallowed the story that no drug research would be conducted if americans were not paying twice as much for drugs as everybody else in the world. therefore all those other, “socialist” nations are a buncha freeloaders

and then in regard to the counterargument that drug companies are not exactly hurting for huge profits, i have seen editorial pieces arguing that drug company profit margins are on the low end compared to other industries, if you hold them at the right angle to the light and squint a little bit

bastiges

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:40:19pm

re: #137 William Lewis

I just ordered a 90 supply of one of my prescriptions from Canada. 90 tablets cost me less than on tablet here.

Is it Viagra? Because my email box is filled with Canadian “pharmacy” spam. ///

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:40:47pm

re: #138 goddamnedfrank

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This may actually have been a big part of Hillary’s problem last year. She kept evaluating programs and ideas on the basis not only of whether they sounded good, but also whether it could be made to work. Sanders and Trump? Hell, they never even thought about whether their promises could be fulfilled.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:40:52pm

re: #148 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, and they started before healthcare got so expensive.

ya that too

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:41:14pm

re: #154 Blind Frog Belly White

This may actually have been a big part of Hillary’s problem last year. She kept evaluating programs and ideas on the basis not only of whether they sounded good, but also whether it could be made to work. Sanders and Trump? Hell, they never even thought about whether their promises could be fulfilled.

roger that!

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William Lewis  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:41:52pm

re: #153 BlueSpotinAL

Is it Viagra? Because my email box is filled with Canadian “pharmacy” spam. ///

Daily dose cialis. Counteracts the blood pressure meds. Canada = 46.00 for 90. US = 55.00 for 1.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:45:29pm

re: #150 William Lewis

I didn’t retire (only 16 years) and I made the mistake of not trying for the disability I could have gotten once upon a lifetime. SO I do what I can to get the cheapest I can.

I didn’t retire, was disabled after seventeen years (thus the VA benefits for me and military benefits for my family were automatic).

I can see why people would turn to Canada or Mexico to get medications when our system is set up to protect corporations and not people.

Canada and Mexico shouldn’t have to subsidise our patients with their taxes, sadly, unless our country fixes our own problems or those countries ban Americans from using their medical care systems, that will continue.

My wife had three fillings repaired in Mexico (no wait) when she broke one there on a visit for $7.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:47:04pm

re: #158 Anymouse 🌹

I didn’t retire, was disabled after seventeen years (thus the VA benefits for me and military benefits for my family were automatic).

I can see why people would turn to Canada or Mexico to get medications when our system is set up to protect corporations and not people.

Canada and Mexico shouldn’t have to subsidise our patients with their taxes, sadly, unless our country fixes our own problems or those countries ban Americans from using their medical care systems, that will continue.

My wife had three fillings repaired in Mexico (no wait) when she broke one there on a visit for $7.

Medical tourism is a real thing.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:47:36pm

re: #133 whitebeach

Damn, dude. All those zeros. Kinda makes you wonder how all those shitty little European nations, not to mention crapholes like Japan and Canada and Mexico, manage to get ‘er done anyway, don’t it?

Yes, it absolutely can be done, it should be done, however the problem here is that Sanders is playing into Republican hands by refusing to be upfront and honest about estimated costs. The void in his bill where a funding mechanism should be will now be filled with GOP talking points about how the left loves to spend Americans into debt. It won’t matter that they do the same thing with military spending and slashing social programs that actually boost consumer spending because he’s needlessly handing them ammunition. This is an epic fucking own goal born from Sanders’ lazy refusal to dig into the real meat of budget issues and his narcissistic / Pollyanna-ass faith that his socialist ideas don’t have to be implemented well or with any particular skill to take root.

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retired cynic  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:47:47pm

re: #159 wheat-dogg

Medical tourism is a real thing.

Costa Rica. I know someone who did that.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:48:47pm

So much internal screaming.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:50:19pm

re: #161 retired cynic

Costa Rica. I know someone who did that.

If you retire and establish residency in some countries, the national health care system takes care of 90% of the costs. I’ve heard of American retirees who use Medicare only as a failsafe.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:50:29pm

re: #162 goddamnedfrank

So much internal screaming.

You didn’t really expect anything else, be honest.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:53:52pm

re: #159 wheat-dogg

Medical tourism is a real thing.

She wasn’t there for medical tourism, she was just in Matamoros touring the city. Her filling broke and she sought out a dentist.

Tomorrow I’m off to the occupational therapist at the Cheyenne VA (they also pay my travel costs).

My computer is yelling at me for a restart now that it finished downloading from Microsoft. I am going to duck out for the night, y’all.

I’ll leave you with guinea pigs and cats, living together.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:55:00pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 12, 2017 • 8:57:38pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 12, 2017 • 9:00:21pm

re: #88 MsJ

The Hill ✔ @thehill
#BREAKING: Supreme Court blocks order requiring Texas to redraw congressional districts hill.cm
8:19 PM - Sep 12, 2017
45 45 Replies 145 145 Retweets 95 95 likes

Under Garland, we would have had a chance at a good future. It looks like all possibility of progress is being reversed.

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BeachDem  Sep 12, 2017 • 9:05:01pm

re: #5 MsJ

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They’ll finally get to write the romance novel that has been the burning desire of their long forsaken hearts—it will be a bodice ripper (they’ll be ripping Hillary’s apart with their teeth), replete with angst, the emotional underpinning of the yam they’ve come to know and love eternally make excuses for. It will have drama…and melodrama…and pivots, lots and lots of pivots.

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William Lewis  Sep 12, 2017 • 9:08:31pm

re: #88 MsJ

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Fuck them.

David Bowie - Heroes

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BeachDem  Sep 12, 2017 • 9:10:19pm

re: #24 William Lewis

I actually liked the original show but I like the sound of the reboot even better.

Believe it or not…I also liked the original.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 12, 2017 • 9:11:49pm

These countries with socialized medicine may have smaller populations, but if you add them all together it’s a lot of people. 80 million in Germany, 60 million in France, 30 million in Canada, pretty soon we’re talking real numbers. Now I know they all don’t have the exact same systems but I don’t believe the fact that we’re a relatively large country being a real impediment towards solving the outrageous cost of health care.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 12, 2017 • 9:11:57pm

re: #68 goddamnedfrank

Ben Shapiro is a despicable piglet.

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My boy liked to wear dresses when he was four as well. You have to have a warped brain to think a four year old playing with costumes is a problem.

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retired cynic  Sep 12, 2017 • 9:15:36pm

When my brother was little, he loved to play dressing my dolls. This was over 60 years ago, and my parents may have held their breath, but they didn’t raise a fuss, and he moved on to Superman and Davy Crockett.

It did manifest in later years, however, as he became a very spiffy dresser. Perhaps that was an outgrowth of having a Herb Alpert cover band.

edited for clarity

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BeachDem  Sep 12, 2017 • 9:19:21pm

re: #31 MsJ

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The Heritage Foundation is scrupulously nonpartisan.

The Heritage Foundation is scrupulously nonpartisan.

The Heritage Foundation is scrupulously nonpartisan.

Nope—doesn’t matter how you type it, it’s the biggest crock of shit ever printed.

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stpaulbear  Sep 12, 2017 • 9:20:32pm

re: #137 William Lewis

I just ordered a 90 supply of one of my prescriptions from Canada. 90 tablets cost me less than one tablet here.

I tried that back in the 90’s when MN started a program to let state employees import meds. The meds were seized by Homeland Security and I got a letter from them telling me to stop. When I contacted the state administrator about it, I was told to try it again. I got another letter from Homeland Security, this one much faster than the first one which led me to believe that they’ve created a file for me somewhere saying that I’m a repeat offender of trying to illegally import drugs. It pissed the hell out of me.

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William Lewis  Sep 12, 2017 • 9:36:13pm

re: #174 retired cynic

When my brother was little, he loved to play dressing my dolls. This was over 60 years ago, and my parents may have held their breath, but they didn’t raise a fuss, and he moved on to Superman and Davy Crockett.

It did manifest in later years, however, as he became a very spiffy dresser. Perhaps that was an outgrowth of having a Herb Alpert cover band.

edited for clarity

That was good to start. I was given a doll by my grandmother - a boy wearing farmer’s coveralls - when I complained about my sisters’ dolls. We three all played dolls.

The edit just makes it better making me remember the first time I took Dad’s copy of “Whipped Cream & Other Delights” and dropping it on the turntable.


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