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Ace-o-aces  Sep 13, 2017 • 12:30:35pm

I laugh when I see political pundits try to ascertain some kind of coherent policy or political philosophy from Trump’s random brain farts.

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 12:32:26pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 13, 2017 • 12:32:43pm

The media sees the money, the merger prospects, internet non neutrality, deregulation. $$

FFS Of course they are playing for his team in many ways.

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Kragar  Sep 13, 2017 • 12:33:38pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2017 • 12:34:05pm

re: #4 Kragar

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Uh no. Stop doing this shit.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 13, 2017 • 12:36:14pm

Our Coporate Controlled Conservative Press is only in it for the money.

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 13, 2017 • 12:36:22pm

re: #2 jaunte

More blood to water The Tree of Liberty.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 13, 2017 • 12:37:07pm

re: #4 Kragar

I could believe that if you were Le Pétomane.

en.wikipedia.org

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Kragar  Sep 13, 2017 • 12:37:22pm
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austin_blue  Sep 13, 2017 • 12:39:16pm

Keith is spot on, as usual in re: to All Things Trump.

Meanwhile in Europe-

Man City 3, Feyenoord 0 (Rotterdam)

Hotspur 2, Dortmund 1 (Wembley)

Liverpool 2, Seilla 1 (Anfield)

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JordanRules  Sep 13, 2017 • 12:39:44pm

Freeze Peach!

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2017 • 12:41:15pm

The press keep proclaiming minor events as the “pivot” they expect (nay, need) to happen, then Trump does something totally unhinged and they go back to the search. After all, it was barely a month ago that they proclaimed his replacement of Rinsed Prius with Gen. Kelly to be the “pivot” because Kelly would get things under control in the White House.

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JordanRules  Sep 13, 2017 • 12:43:21pm

re: #12 Targetpractice

Pretty sure he’s had some mini pivots since then.

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JordanRules  Sep 13, 2017 • 12:44:51pm

re: #11 JordanRules

Cc: Melon Trump
Girls will be girls!

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2017 • 12:45:17pm

re: #13 JordanRules

Pretty sure he’s had some mini pivots since then.

Media last month: “Trump’s appointment of Kelly shows that Trump is trying to fix things in the White House!”

Trump a week later: “Many people were responsible for violence in Charlottesville.”

Media: “FFFFFFFFFFFF…”

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JordanRules  Sep 13, 2017 • 12:48:06pm

re: #15 Targetpractice

Ahh, I remember a couple of the so-called mini pivots.
45 in Texas for Harvey press.
45 working with Pelosi and Schumer.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2017 • 12:48:16pm

re: #14 JordanRules

Cc: Melon Trump
Girls will be girls!

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Yeah because she dared to call your scumbag boss what he is.

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Kragar  Sep 13, 2017 • 12:48:20pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 13, 2017 • 12:49:27pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2017 • 12:50:21pm

So are any of the so called free speech activists going to say something about a government official urging someone be fired for being critical of Trump? Bueller.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2017 • 12:51:05pm

re: #19 GlutenFreeJesus

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Such a flakey fraud like Daddy.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 13, 2017 • 12:51:58pm

I just realized I can apply for Social Security at the end of this month, if I so choose.

Whoa.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 13, 2017 • 12:53:32pm

If you recall a bit back, the ambulatory pile of racist garbage Kris Kobach appointed a judge from my county (Jefferson) to the commission. I had assumed he was an under the radar nutjob, kind of like how the Luv Guv came from nowhere. Here is what Alan L. King wrote:

Even a commission member not in attendance made his critical voice heard. The panel “should be expanding the rights of our citizens to vote, instead of arguably looking for ways to keep people from voting,” wrote Alan L. King, a Democrat and probate judge in Jefferson County, Ala., in a stinging letter.

“Some parts of our electorate wish to beat their chests on so-called ‘voter fraud,’ and there may be some isolated instances” of irregularities, he wrote. “But, I would venture to say, thousands upon thousands more people are stricken from voter rolls without justifiable cause or have their vote suppressed.”

nytimes.com via Wonkette

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scottslemmons  Sep 13, 2017 • 12:54:27pm

re: #23 BlueSpotinAL

If you recall a bit back, the ambulatory pile of racist garbage Kris Kobach appointed a judge from my county (Jefferson) to the commission. I had assumed he was an under the radar nutjob, kind of like how the Luv Guv came from nowhere. Here is what Alan L. King wrote:

nytimes.com via Wonkette

That’s a dude who’s about to get kicked off the commission. :/

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 13, 2017 • 12:58:30pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:00:27pm

re: #18 Kragar

They have captured the Loch Ness monster so it can be trained and programmed for assassination missions. You probably didn’t think a sub that big could get into Loch Ness, did you? Buwaahaahaa!

Note: I am not auditioning for that job at InfoWars, appearances notwithstanding.

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:00:55pm

So, how long before Trump takes credit for LA hosting the 2028 Olympics?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:01:03pm

re: #14 JordanRules

Cc: Melon Trump
Girls will be girls!

Free Speech! Except not for this person in this case that bothers me.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:02:11pm

re: #19 GlutenFreeJesus

Since when are women “untapped” labor?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:03:01pm

re: #20 HappyWarrior

So are any of the so called free speech activists going to say something about a government official urging someone be fired for being critical of Trump? Bueller.

Respect are Presidnet!!!!

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:03:43pm

I’m pretty sure they have other ways of letting command know they succeeded.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:04:43pm

Remember when NBC kept airing that show hosted by that guy who alleged that President Obama wasn’t born in America?

Man, that was great.

/

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JordanRules  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:05:23pm

I wonder if 45 ever had a black nanny? (BTW, thanks for leaving every stone unturned media)

I haven’t formed any hypothesis or anything but I’ve observed a few things.
- his loyalty to Omarosa who doesn’t really bring much to the table, that’s not usually how his relationships work
- the only person I’ve seen shut him down to his face was the black female pastor in Flint during the campaign; his criticism of her after was so lightweight
- he did not go after Michelle Obama ever; I heard stories about operatives telling him not to, but he never listens to them
- SHS went after Jamelle today, I won’t be surprised if he never says anything
- Beyonce and Jay-Z were at the same event for HRC and he went hard at Jay not his wife

Kamala Kryptonite 2020??

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Le Coquí Résistance  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:08:31pm

re: #29 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

Since when are women “untapped” labor?

Maybe in the 50s… 1750s…

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:11:08pm

re: #34 Le Coquí Résistance

Maybe in the 50s… 1750s…

Even back then, it was ‘unpaid’, yet not ‘untapped’.

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Le Coquí Résistance  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:13:17pm

re: #31 Ace-o-aces

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I’m pretty sure they have other ways of letting command know they succeeded.

Maybe it was a signal to let know someone’s father that his son is alive. Thankfully, Theseus remembered it this time.

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Le Coquí Résistance  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:13:39pm

re: #35 wrenchwench

Even back then, it was ‘unpaid’, yet not ‘untapped’.

Good point.

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:17:57pm

re: #23 BlueSpotinAL

the ambulatory pile of racist garbage Kris Kobach

Thanks for specifying. Last week, the words, ‘ambulatory pile of racist garbage’ meant Joe Arpaio.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:20:41pm
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MsJ  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:21:27pm

re: #22 wheat-dogg

I just realized I can apply for Social Security at the end of this month, if I so choose.

Whoa.

You might want to do that to get grandfathered in…before the GOP fucks you and all other seniors over.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:25:54pm
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:26:04pm

re: #40 MsJ

You might want to do that to get grandfathered in…before the GOP fucks you and all other seniors over.

Keep an eye on what they’re doing and apply if necessary. Otherwise, hold out for higher monthly pay if you can.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:26:16pm
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Kragar  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:28:10pm
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wheat-dogg  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:29:45pm

re: #40 MsJ

You might want to do that to get grandfathered in…before the GOP fucks you and all other seniors over.

Quite seriously, I am considering claiming my benefits early, just for that reason. I’m afraid if I wait till age 66 (2022 in my case), there will be no Social Security to claim.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:30:54pm

RIP Billy Batts.

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MsJ  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:30:55pm

re: #45 wheat-dogg

Quite seriously, I am considering claiming my benefits early, just for that reason. I’m afraid if I wait till age 66 (2022 in my case), there will be no Social Security to claim.

Tell me. I am 58 and am terrified that it won’t be there for me at all.

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:31:16pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

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How about Daily Shit.

It actually depicts their, uh, daily output.

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JordanRules  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:32:30pm

I don’t know about this Flynn guy. Kinda sketch.

Trying to figure out who will play the traitor in the movie.

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danarchy  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:33:18pm

re: #45 wheat-dogg

Quite seriously, I am considering claiming my benefits early, just for that reason. I’m afraid if I wait till age 66 (2022 in my case), there will be no Social Security to claim.

Bah, the republicans couldn’t repeal the ACA and their base actually wants them to do that. You seriously think they have a chance at doing away with Social Security. Unless the government completely fails and we become a post apocalyptic wasteland SS isn’t going anywhere any time soon.

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MsJ  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:34:09pm

The US is in the worst place it has ever been in my life. Trump is a wannabe dictator. Half of the legislative branch is giving in to him. Now the judicial branch is, as well.

We are walking headlong into fascism and nobody seems to give a shit.

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MsJ  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:35:04pm

re: #50 danarchy

Bah, the republicans couldn’t repeal the ACA and their base actually wants them to do that. You seriously think they have a chance at doing away with Social Security. Unless the government completely fails and we become a post apocalyptic wasteland SS isn’t going anywhere any time soon.

They will starve it like Obamacare. They want all that luscious money in the SS trust. If they steal it to pay for war or defense or what have you, then, hey, there is no more money for SocSec so sorry, you’re on your own.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:36:54pm

re: #45 wheat-dogg

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:38:29pm

re: #50 danarchy

Bah, the republicans couldn’t repeal the ACA and their base actually wants them to do that. You seriously think they have a chance at doing away with Social Security. Unless the government completely fails and we become a post apocalyptic wasteland SS isn’t going anywhere any time soon.

I’m so old, I remember when the Republicans didn’t have a chance at electing Donald Trump for president, or anyone else, for that matter.

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Kragar  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:38:48pm

re: #49 JordanRules

Trying to figure out who will play the traitor in the movie.

Robert Patrick

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:39:30pm

re: #51 MsJ

The US is in the worst place it has ever been in my life. Trump is a wannabe dictator. Half of the legislative branch is giving in to him. Now the judicial branch is, as well.

We are walking headlong into fascism and nobody seems to give a shit.

Now, imagine being a minority in the Wilson era, and watching all of the government giving the president what he wants.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:39:39pm

re: #44 Kragar

15 Marines Treated for Burns After Amphibious Vehicle Catches Fire

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:41:58pm

re: #56 Belafon

Now, imagine being a minority in the Wilson era, and watching all of the government giving the president what he wants.

This idea that it is somehow irreversible and that the US has never been in such horrible divided straits before gets a little tiring sometimes.

Like yes, things suck right now. But there are a lot of us who still have plenty of life left to live who would rather not give up and roll over and die yet, so.

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:42:53pm

Did I do the ‘I’m so old’ meme right? The older I get, the harder the memes get.

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freetoken  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:43:43pm

re: #59 wrenchwench

I’m so old that I remember when “meme” wasn’t a word used to describe these things.

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danarchy  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:43:44pm

re: #52 MsJ

They will starve it like Obamacare. They want all that luscious money in the SS trust. If they steal it to pay for war or defense or what have you, then, hey, there is no more money for SocSec so sorry, you’re on your own.

Even in their wildest dreams of privatizing social security they grandfather in anyone 55 or older, and they won’t even be able to do that. Without changing the law the only way they could starve Social Security would be to default on debt and for all the talk from some of the fringiest, that isn’t going to happen.

If they ever manage to touch the third rail of social security it will be incremental at best. Maybe raising the age a year or two(again people over 55 will likely be grandfathered to the old system) maybe using a different method to calculate the increases in cost of living etc.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:44:21pm

re: #45 wheat-dogg

Quite seriously, I am considering claiming my benefits early, just for that reason. I’m afraid if I wait till age 66 (2022 in my case), there will be no Social Security to claim.

Don’t worry, the GOP won’t go after the main social security benefit. Most of their voters are on it or soon will be. At least not until money can vote.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:44:50pm

re: #54 wrenchwench

I’m so old, I remember when the Republicans didn’t have a chance at electing Donald Trump for president, or anyone else, for that matter.

I’m old enough to remember when Democrats couldn’t get elected in Oklahoma.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:45:53pm

re: #53 Sir John Barron

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freetoken  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:46:29pm

re: #63 Belafon

There was a time when only Democrats could get elected governor of the state of Oklahoma.

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:47:16pm

re: #60 freetoken

I’m so old that I remember when “meme” wasn’t a word used to describe these things.

The fact that your statement is true does not make it proper meme usage. That’s a generality, not meant to be a judgement on your statement, cuz I just don’t know anymore.

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freetoken  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:48:50pm

I guess there was one Republican governor of OK, until the period of the great switch.

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:49:42pm

re: #66 wrenchwench

The fact that your statement is true does not make it proper meme usage. That’s a generality, not meant to be a judgement on your statement, cuz I just don’t know anymore.

And I’m working in the print medium, which is my strength.

I think I’ll go fix a bike, my other strength.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:50:14pm

re: #65 freetoken

There was a time when only Democrats could get elected governor of the state of Oklahoma.

I also get a bit frustrated when I hear people here in Texas talk about how Democrats used to be the dominant party. Yes, back when they were conservative. And if you’re talking about Ann Richards, that’s when the party was changing but voters hadn’t caught up.

That inertia is a big reason it will be a while before Texas goes blue. Even if we start getting Democrats elected, we will be purple for a while.

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MsJ  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:52:38pm

re: #58 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This idea that it is somehow irreversible and that the US has never been in such horrible divided straits before gets a little tiring sometimes.

Like yes, things suck right now. But there are a lot of us who still have plenty of life left to live who would rather not give up and roll over and die yet, so.

You’ll have to forgive me but the two SCOTUS decisions have put me in a very bad place. Our safeguards are slipping away. It has me very upset.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:52:39pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:53:44pm

I’m so old I remember when people never said, “I’m so old.”

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:54:50pm

Meanwhile, back home.

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Nyet  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:57:13pm

Our little Nazi sympathizer reaches new depths.

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2017 • 1:58:31pm

re: #60 freetoken

I’m so old that I remember when “meme” wasn’t a word used to describe these things.

I’m so old I can’t remember the thing I was going to say I remembered.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:03:59pm

I’m so old I tell kids to get off my lawn.

But I don’t have a lawn.

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freetoken  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:08:09pm
Hepatitis A occurs sporadically and in epidemics worldwide, with a tendency for cyclic recurrences. The hepatitis A virus is one of the most frequent causes of foodborne infection. Epidemics related to contaminated food or water can erupt explosively, such as the epidemic in Shanghai in 1988 that affected about 300 000 people1. Hepatitis A viruses persist in the environment and can withstand food-production processes routinely used to inactivate and/or control bacterial pathogens.

One of the reasons why I’ve given up on buying food prepared by others. By machine (as in frozen foods) is fine.

I guess it’s one of my taboos.

With the latest outbreak of Hep A in San Diego county, I wonder how long it will take before we see other’s than homeless guys get infected?

The virus is ubiquitous in our environment.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:08:09pm

re: #46 Ace Rothstein

RIP Billy Batts.

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Read that elsewhere & thought of you.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:09:27pm

re: #46 Ace Rothstein

RIP Billy Batts.

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Damn fine actor. Now go home and get your fucking shinebox. Y

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freetoken  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:09:31pm

Speaking of prepared foods, found a rock in my frozen blueberries this morning.

I suppose the machine harvester just kicked up enough of the ground for it to get in. The rock was the size of the blueberries, which means it couldn’t be screened out by size.

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freetoken  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:10:23pm

Here we will remind ourselves that Trump wants to cut the CDC.

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:11:08pm

re: #58 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This idea that it is somehow irreversible and that the US has never been in such horrible divided straits before gets a little tiring sometimes.

Like yes, things suck right now. But there are a lot of us who still have plenty of life left to live who would rather not give up and roll over and die yet, so.

re: #70 MsJ

You’ll have to forgive me but the two SCOTUS decisions have put me in a very bad place. Our safeguards are slipping away. It has me very upset.

I think there might be a little age difference entering into these comments.

Some of us that are older are sad to see the divide and the damage it is causing. We may be at an age that we only ‘see’ things going away and might not be around to see a recovery. That is a very sad thing to face.

It’s a bit like leaving your ‘family’ in a good place for their future before your time is up. If you see that it may not happen and the people facing the future may have to go through what has already been gone through it is frustrating.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:11:15pm

re: #81 freetoken

Here we will remind ourselves that Trump wants to cut the CDC.

And that the CDC is currently under a gag order to not talk about anything.

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Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:11:56pm

re: #81 freetoken

Here we will remind ourselves that Trump wants to cut the CDC.

Trump wants to cut everything, but nothing more than the taxes he’d pay if he paid taxes.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:14:32pm

re: #77 freetoken

One of the reasons why I’ve given up on buying food prepared by others. By machine (as in frozen foods) is fine.

I guess it’s one of my taboos.

With the latest outbreak of Hep A in San Diego county, I wonder how long it will take before we see other’s than homeless guys get infected?

The virus is ubiquitous in our environment.

There’s a vaccine.

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:16:39pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

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You cannot tarnish an already rusted blade.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:17:13pm

re: #22 wheat-dogg

I just realized I can apply for Social Security at the end of this month, if I so choose.

Whoa.

I applied earlier this year.
Figured I might as well get while I can.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:20:17pm

re: #82 ObserverArt

I think there might be a little age difference entering into these comments.

Some of us that are older are sad to see the divide and the damage it is causing. We may be at an age that we only ‘see’ things going away and might not be around to see a recovery. That is a very sad thing to face.

It’s a bit like leaving your ‘family’ in a good place for their future before your time is up. If you see that it may not happen and the people facing the future may have to go through what has already been gone through it is frustrating.

Given that this all started with people bemoaning the potential loss of Social Security, forgive my lack of unquestioning sympathy. Because if you’re in your 50s and worried about it, well, let’s just say it’s never been present in my retirement planning. (If it is and I’m wrong, great!)

(I deleted a bunch of other stuff but let’s just say that if you think it’s frustrating to be looking at the work you’re leaving your family, imagine how frustrating it is to be staring at that work while constantly being lectured about how it’s the end of the world.)

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:21:17pm

I’m so old I use phrases like “on the air” to see if a telemetry patient is being read at the telly station. The kids say “online”. I also prefer to use the analog blood pressure equipment instead of the digital ones the (lazy) kids like. I’m so old I count pulse rates. (You know, if you substitute “odd” for “old”, and “he” for “I”, you could say all this from the kids’ perspective.)
However, I’m still able to differentiate “through” vs “threw” One of the kids actually typed in a chart that the drainage soaked threw the dressing.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:21:36pm

Now 8 confirmed deaths at nursing home in Hollywood FL.

:(

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Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:21:55pm

re: #88 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Don’t you have to work to get SS? Didn’t you retire in your mid 20s?

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wheat-dogg  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:24:05pm

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

I applied earlier this year.
Figured I might as well get while I can.

If I wait, of course, I get more money each month. I’m just not sure if I want to keep teaching until age 66. I mean, I love it, but after 30 years I figure I’m due some respite.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:24:31pm

re: #91 Skip Intro

Don’t you have to work to get SS? Didn’t you retire in your mid 20s?

a) I’m married, spousal benefits are a thing.
b) I write and do in fact pay taxes on my income as an author.

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darthstar  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:27:26pm
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Ace Rothstein  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:27:53pm

re: #79 HappyWarrior

Damn fine actor. Now go home and get your fucking shinebox. Y

It’s not up there with “I’m going to make him an offer he can’t refuse,” but it’s in the top ten of all-time lines.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:28:20pm

Secret meetings.

Back Channels.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:28:26pm

re: #94 darthstar

“Replay”.

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:28:34pm

re: #94 darthstar

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So a staffer was cruising porn tweets and “accidentally” hit a button?

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Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:28:47pm

re: #94 darthstar

Easy to hit the wrong button when your dominate hand is otherwise occupied.

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:29:02pm

re: #95 Ace Rothstein

It’s not up there with “I’m going to make him an offer he can’t refuse,” but it’s in the top ten of all-time lines.

And the best use of it was when it was used on Scaramucci. I laughed for days over that.

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nines09  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:31:48pm

re: #59 wrenchwench

What? Pardon me, were you speaking to me? No. Ok, just looking….

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:33:25pm

re: #88 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Given that this all started with people bemoaning the potential loss of Social Security, forgive my lack of unquestioning sympathy. Because if you’re in your 50s and worried about it, well, let’s just say it’s never been present in my retirement planning. (If it is and I’m wrong, great!)

(I deleted a bunch of other stuff but let’s just say that if you think it’s frustrating to be looking at the work you’re leaving your family, imagine how frustrating it is to be staring at that work while constantly being lectured about how it’s the end of the world.)

Unless you’re like my son - whose scholarship based salary isn’t paying into SS - you’re paying into SS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:33:45pm

re: #45 wheat-dogg

Quite seriously, I am considering claiming my benefits early, just for that reason. I’m afraid if I wait till age 66 (2022 in my case), there will be no Social Security to claim.

re: #47 MsJ

Tell me. I am 58 and am terrified that it won’t be there for me at all.

LOL, you young’uns…

I’ve been worried about Social Security being there for me for DECADES!

And here I thought I was being all antsy by taking SS at 65 (so as to pay for the Medicare Part B premiums).

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:34:53pm

re: #88 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Given that this all started with people bemoaning the potential loss of Social Security, forgive my lack of unquestioning sympathy. Because if you’re in your 50s and worried about it, well, let’s just say it’s never been present in my retirement planning. (If it is and I’m wrong, great!)

(I deleted a bunch of other stuff but let’s just say that if you think it’s frustrating to be looking at the work you’re leaving your family, imagine how frustrating it is to be staring at that work while constantly being lectured about how it’s the end of the world.)

I was just trying to lend understanding to both points. People feel what they feel, they react the way they want to react to what faces them at any given time. I understand both points and feel both are legitimate. It is about perspective and age paints it different ways.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:36:35pm

re: #96 Stanley Sea

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Secret meetings.

Back Channels.

The headline already has it wrong by implying she knew the identity of the filks involved in the calls and intentionally unmasked Trump officials.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:37:46pm

re: #80 freetoken

Speaking of prepared foods, found a rock in my frozen blueberries this morning.

I suppose the machine harvester just kicked up enough of the ground for it to get in. The rock was the size of the blueberries, which means it couldn’t be screened out by size.

working in restaurants, we had to wash the mud and pebbles out of any spinach that came in, and keep an eye out for pebbles in the beans

bam bam wasn’t around to help, tho…

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:38:03pm

re: #104 ObserverArt

I was just trying to lend understanding to both points. People feel what they feel, they react the way they want to react to what faces them at any given time. I understand both points and feel both are legitimate. It is about perspective and age paints it different ways.

It sucks for me, at 47, having to tell my kids that they’re going to have to be participants in a struggle that we thought was over. My kids and I are white, but I’ve tried to make them aware of things. I’ve explained to them how if minorities and women have to struggle for rights, then they as men will suffer as well.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:40:19pm

re: #100 makeitstop

“This Soprano guy is from Jersey, what does that mean? We are New Yorkers! The Jersey mob is nothing — they don’t even prick their fingers when they do the ceremony.”

LOL.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:41:09pm

i have to count on ss

the ss trustees say it will be good till abt 2034, and after that will only be able to pay out 75%, unless somebody in dc does s/t about it before then

but what can i do abt it except tell kids to get off my lawn and yell at the sky

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:41:38pm

re: #74 Nyet

Our little Nazi sympathizer reaches new depths.

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And KiTA is using that symbol as an ancient Native American religion?

It is to guffaw…

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:42:04pm
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wheat-dogg  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:43:20pm

re: #106 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

working in restaurants, we had to wash the mud and pebbles out of any spinach that came in, and keep an eye out for pebbles in the beans

bam bam wasn’t around to help, tho…

I’ve bought dry beans from the bulk containers in Chinese supermarkets for nine years, and never found a pebble or other foreign object. Dry beans in the USA, though, are a different story.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:43:53pm

re: #102 Belafon

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:44:17pm

re: #80 freetoken

Speaking of prepared foods, found a rock in my frozen blueberries this morning.

I suppose the machine harvester just kicked up enough of the ground for it to get in. The rock was the size of the blueberries, which means it couldn’t be screened out by size.

Here’s a thing about blueberries (I know this since they are a major crop on my farm): blueberries are never washed before freezing. If you buy fresh or frozen blueberries, always wash/rinse them before eating them.

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Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:44:27pm

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

I applied earlier this year.
Figured I might as well get while I can.

People are correct to worry about changes to SS. Up until 1984 benefits weren’t taxable for the obvious reason that you’d already paid taxes on your “contribution” when it was deducted from your paycheck. So the government can certainly change the rules again, probably by continuing to increase the minimum age you can apply for full benefits.

I have no doubt that the Republicans will come up with even more ingenious ways to screw people out of what they’re owed.

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:45:23pm

re: #107 Belafon

It sucks for me, at 47, having to tell my kids that they’re going to have to be participants in a struggle that we thought was over. My kids and I are white, but I’ve tried to make them aware of things. I’ve explained to them how if minorities and women have to struggle for rights, then they as men will suffer as well.

And your comment cuts right in the middle of both Klys’ and MsJ’s comments.

You’re looking at it from both sides, partly Klys’ worry about the work it will take in the future while you yourself are sad to see so much being battered like MsJ.

I imagine the debate we are having about the two comments is ongoing in your head at all times.

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electrotek  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:46:09pm
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wheat-dogg  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:46:28pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

Here’s a thing about blueberries (I know this since they are a major crop on my farm): blueberries are never washed before freezing. If you buy fresh or frozen blueberries, always wash/rinse them before eating them.

Washing produce of any kind is good advice, especially if you plan to eat it uncooked.

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451_Montag  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:47:42pm

re: #92 wheat-dogg

If I wait, of course, I get more money each month. I’m just not sure if I want to keep teaching until age 66. I mean, I love it, but after 30 years I figure I’m due some respite.

I hear yah on that.

25 years in and hell’s teeth I need a break. I find the kids just grind a little piece off me everyday of my life. Not in a mean way but every little bit of success comes at a cost. Everytime one of them is having a hard time, a little bit of emotional energy is required.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s a job I love, and everytime I meet one of my ex kids who have made a good life for themselves really does make it worthwhile. But damn I could do with a year off

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Pineapple Pizzagate  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:49:40pm

re: #98 Targetpractice

So a staffer was cruising porn tweets and “accidentally” hit a button?

Haven’t these people ever heard of Private Browsing?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:50:04pm

re: #117 electrotek

Awesome! And Fuck ISIS.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:50:24pm

re: #120 Pineapple Pizzagate

No.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:50:42pm

re: #98 Targetpractice

So a staffer was cruising porn tweets and “accidentally” hit a button?

Exactly. That excuse doesn’t really make things better.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:57:46pm

re: #116 ObserverArt

And your comment cuts right in the middle of both Klys’ and MsJ’s comments.

You’re looking at it from both sides, partly Klys’ worry about the work it will take in the future while you yourself are sad to see so much being battered like MsJ.

I imagine the debate we are having about the two comments is ongoing in your head at all times.

I should have rightly said it sucks for my kids. They’re going to have to deal with something they shouldn’t have had to. Especially since one of mine is gay.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:58:33pm
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BeachDem  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:59:12pm

re: #11 JordanRules

Freeze Peach!

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And let’s remember that, although Eric Bolling did get fired from Fox just last week for his alleged harassment, he sailed along during the Obama years without the White House ever calling for his firing, saying shit like this:

Eric Bolling compared Obama to a drug dealer who opens “Barry’s Pot and Coke Emporium.”

At other times, Bolling has called the President Comrade Obama, The Socialist Spewing Policy Maker and accused him of chugging 40’s” and hosting “a hoodlum in the Hizzouse.”

Glenn Beck did get let go from Fox when his advertisers deserted him, but before that said shit about Obama like:

“a racist with deep-seated hatred for white people.”

And just a few of the yam’s greatest hits included:

“Obama and his attack dogs have nothing but hate and anger in their hearts and spew it whenever possible.”

He called Obama a foreign candidate.

He said Obama was too dumb to have legitimately gotten through college and law school.

So spare us your outrage, Sarah Huckabee, and STFU.

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 2:59:43pm

re: #124 Belafon

I should have rightly said it sucks for my kids. They’re going to have to deal with something they shouldn’t have had to. Especially since one of mine is gay.

I got that from your post originally. It may not mean anything, but from your comments, I think you are a great parent.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:00:23pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:01:56pm

re: #126 BeachDem

She’s overstepped executive authority twice in 2 days.

Comey & Jemele & the 1st Amendment.

We’ll see where the DOJ goes. haha

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:03:19pm

re: #127 ObserverArt

I got that from your post originally. It may not mean anything, but from your comments, I think you are a great parent.

I hope so. I’ve release one into the wild, onto the great grad school frontier. He’s a good kid adult. The next one’s a senior. A bit more serious than the first, and he’s still trying to figure out what he wants to do, but he understands more about the world than a lot of his peers, and only a small portion of that is due to me.

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petesh  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:04:09pm

re: #125 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

wired.com

That’s a great story, about font detectives. I almost didn’t lick the clink.

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:05:49pm

re: #125 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

wired.com

Being a graphic artist I found that a good read. And as soon as I got the theme in the opening I was hoping it would go to the Killian documents and mention Charles.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:06:47pm

re: #126 BeachDem

“a racist with deep-seated hatred for white people.”

I never understood how Obama could hate half of himself.

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JordanRules  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:08:55pm

re: #126 BeachDem

Hell, ESPN revived their relationship with Hank Williams Jr. This summer.

sbnation.com

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:08:58pm

re: #133 Ace Rothstein

I never understood how Obama could hate half of himself.

Easy, the other half is Black.

/ probably needed.

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:09:50pm

re: #125 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

wired.com

The Throbbing Memo appears!

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calochortus  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:10:25pm

Has anyone posted this happy little story? Shkreli jailed for bounty on Clinton’s hair.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:10:40pm

I know Beach, but

@Yamiche

When a reporter asked the senator if the president had expressed regret, a pained look flashed on Mr. Scott’s face. He paused for a few seconds and replied, “He certainly tried to explain what he was trying to convey.”

Soon after the meeting ended, White House officials emailed reporters a photograph of Mr. Trump listening intently as Mr. Scott made a point, with both sitting in chairs often used for bilateral meetings with foreign leaders. The White House misidentified him as Tom Scott.

So much respect

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:11:34pm

re: #133 Ace Rothstein

I never understood how Obama could hate half of himself.

Especially given his love for his mom and grandparents. It’s such stupid shit.

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:11:44pm

re: #131 petesh

That’s a great story, about font detectives. I almost didn’t lick the clink.

Thanks for bringing the clink to my attention.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:12:08pm

re: #138 Stanley Sea

I know Beach, but

@Yamiche

So much respect

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Surprisingly refreshing from him.

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Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:13:16pm

re: #137 calochortus

Hey, it was just satire, he says. Doesn’t anyone have a sense of humor any more?

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calochortus  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:14:21pm

re: #142 Skip Intro

Hey, it was just satire, he says. Doesn’t anyone have a sense of humor any more?

Apparently that judge doesn’t.

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JordanRules  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:15:14pm

re: #137 calochortus

Nice!!!

And not just cause it gives me a happy RWNJs but because it’s the just thing to do.

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:15:54pm

re: #130 Belafon

I hope so. I’ve release one into the wild, onto the great grad school frontier. He’s a good kid adult. The next one’s a senior. A bit more serious than the first, and he’s still trying to figure out what he wants to do, but he understands more about the world than a lot of his peers, and only a small portion of that is due to me.

I am a believer of learning to learn. The nuns at my Catholic grade and high school taught me that liking to learn is a key for learning for the future. It took me awhile to understand it. Growing older and realizing a lot of people seem to shut down education wise in their 20s brought it home. I have tried to educate myself with something every day.

I have a feeling your small portion was that starting kernel. Little seed…big tree.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:17:32pm

Evening Lizardim from the hot and humid wild north country. I am exhausted - I have had late-running meetings every day, or almost every day, for the last week straight. I could really use a break. How go things among the lizardfolk this Indian-summer evening?

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BeachDem  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:18:21pm

re: #39 FormerDirtDart

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And the photo accompanying the readout identified Scott as Tom.

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Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:19:19pm

So that “unanimous” house vote condemning nazis wasn’t unanimous after all. It passed on a voice vote. Steve King is still the racist asshole he’s always been.

politico.com

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:19:53pm

re: #138 Stanley Sea

I know Beach, but

@Yamiche

So much respect

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Watch Trump put money into a candidate to primary him.

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JordanRules  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:19:59pm

re: #147 BeachDem

*Face meets palm*

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:22:37pm

re: #147 BeachDem

And the photo accompanying the readout identified Scott as Tom.

Tim…Tom…’they’ all look the same to Trump.

/ probably needed too…

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:25:42pm
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BeachDem  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:26:08pm

re: #49 JordanRules

I don’t know about this Flynn guy. Kinda sketch.

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Trying to figure out who will play the traitor in the movie.

Jim Caviezel (they’d have to age him a little bit)

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William Lewis  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:27:37pm

re: #44 Kragar

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Sounds like someone crashed/rolled over an LVTP-7. Though wouldn’t that be a light loadout? Anyway, hope they’re all ok in the long run.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:28:52pm

re: #137 calochortus

Has anyone posted this happy little story? Shkreli jailed for bounty on Clinton’s hair.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

Poor Pharma Bro!!

All his asshole pals running free and he has to go to the jails!

It’s not fair!!

//

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:29:03pm

re: #153 BeachDem

Jim Caviezel (they’d have to age him a little bit)

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Caviezel is a right winger too so he’d probably have no problem getting into the role.

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:29:56pm

re: #152 Charles Johnson

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Does ‘Wikimedia commons’ mean they get to use it free, without asking or anything?

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Stanley Sea  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:33:00pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:33:32pm

re: #157 wrenchwench

Does ‘Wikimedia commons’ mean they get to use it free, without asking or anything?

Wikimedia Commons is based on the Creative Commons licensing structure, which is basically open-source for creative content.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:33:49pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:35:07pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

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Information security, how does it f***ing work?!

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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:35:40pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

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That iPhoneX butthole recognition dealie isn’t starting to sound so bad after all.

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Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:38:18pm

re: #158 Stanley Sea

Just something else not to worry about, like the Supreme Court.

All is well.

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:42:42pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

ICYMI, Equifax forced to pull offline a huge database of consumer data guarded only by credentials “admin/admin”

Holy crap. Does the tagline on their site say ‘Just another Wordpress site’?

Their IT team (such as it is) should be drummed out of the industry.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:42:54pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:43:18pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

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ayfkm!

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wheat-dogg  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:43:30pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

Today was the day I supposedly could sign up for their “TrustedID” service, and ….

I couldn’t.

Filled in all the fields, and when I clicked CONTINUE to enroll, all I saw was a red circle with a slash through it.

Also, they said they were taking down the system for an hour beginning at 5 pm ET. Maybe that hour turned into something longer.

Either way, my confidence in Equifax remains low.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:43:58pm

re: #164 makeitstop

Holy crap. Does the tagline on their site say ‘Just another Wordpress site’?

Their IT team (such as it is) should be drummed out of the industry.

I was thinking tar and feathers. With a background of drums.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:44:29pm

re: #168 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I was thinking tar and feathers. With a background of drums.

Run ‘em out of town on a rail.

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calochortus  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:45:21pm

re: #161 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Information security, how does it f***ing work?!

Poorly, apparently.

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:45:22pm

re: #168 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I was thinking tar and feathers. With a background of drums.

Your proposal is acceptable.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:45:31pm

some guy on the npr seemed to me to be saying that collecting personal data the way equifax does is no legal in some other countries

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EPR-radar  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:45:33pm

re: #158 Stanley Sea

“church militant” types want a new Spanish Inquisition that wouldn’t be as soft on supposed heretics as the historical original was.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:46:15pm

re: #169 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Run ‘em out of town on a rail.

Nah, that’s too much of an honor.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:46:28pm

Good information here: krebsonsecurity.com

Important point: credit monitoring services like Equifax’s don’t actually protect you from ID theft. Instead, you should file a “security freeze” with the four major credit bureaus. That page has links to the sites where you can do this. There’s a cost, but it isn’t very expensive.

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calochortus  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:46:59pm

re: #172 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

some guy on the npr seemed to me to be saying that collecting personal data the way equifax does is no legal in some other countries

Or at least doing it without having any responsibility for what happens to it.
At least this hack should slow down their drive to have legislation making them even less responsible.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:49:50pm

re: #164 makeitstop

Holy crap. Does the tagline on their site say ‘Just another Wordpress site’?

Their IT team (such as it is) should be drummed out of the industry.

You can view the main page source here:
view-source:equifaxsecurity2017.com

Definitely a WordPress site, and probably relying on an unsecure MySQL server

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BeachDem  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:50:10pm

re: #134 JordanRules

Hell, ESPN revived their relationship with Hank Williams Jr. This summer.

sbnation.com

And as a refresher, some of Hank Jr.’s greatest hits:

Williams Jr. on Fox and Friends, saying about Obama playing golf with Boehner:
“That would be like Hitler playing golf with Netanyahu

“They’re the enemy… Obama! And Biden!” (He also referred to the two men as the Three Stooges, so apparently math is also not a strong suit.)

“We’ve got a Muslim for a President who hates cowboys, hates cowgirls, hates fishing, hates farming, loves gays, and we hate him.”

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:51:33pm
Each employee record included a company username in plain text, and a corresponding password that was obfuscated by a series of dots.

The “edit users” page obscured the Veraz employee’s password, but the same password was exposed by sloppy coding on the Web page.
However, all one needed to do in order to view said password was to right-click on the employee’s profile page and select “view source,” a function that displays the raw HTML code which makes up the Web site. Buried in that HTML code was the employee’s password in plain text.

A review of those accounts shows all employee passwords were the same as each user’s username. Worse still, each employee’s username appears to be nothing more than their last name, or a combination of their first initial and last name. In other words, if you knew an Equifax Argentina employee’s last name, you also could work out their password for this credit dispute portal quite easily.

jhmfc!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:53:50pm

Here’s what pisses me off about the Experian thing: You don’t get to choose if you’re a customer or not. If they have your info then they have your info and there’s not really a damn thing you can do about it.

I really hate how credit bureaus operate with such impunity regarding our financial well being.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:54:02pm

re: #179 goddamnedfrank

jhmfc!

it takes work to create a system with as poor security as this

182
Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:55:02pm

re: #179 goddamnedfrank

Amazingly bad, amirite?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:55:10pm

re: #179 goddamnedfrank

Seriously. It’s easy as shit to code a random number generator and these idiots couldn’t even figure that out.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:55:46pm

re: #181 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

it takes work to create a system with as poor security as this

This X 100. Another “lowest bidder” scenario perhaps?

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BeachDem  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:57:39pm

re: #138 Stanley Sea

I know Beach, but

@Yamiche

So much respect

[Embedded content]

If that was a stern lecture, I’d like to see what happens when Tim is going easy on him.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2017 • 3:59:42pm

re: #184 Eclectic Cyborg

This X 100. Another “lowest bidder” scenario perhaps?

Off-shore code, 100% guaranteed. I work with off-shore teams for a living. If you don’t manage them right, they turn out huge volumes of incomprehensibly bad code.

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:00:04pm

re: #184 Eclectic Cyborg

This X 100. Another “lowest bidder” scenario perhaps?

Or a ‘Joe in collections’ kid builds web sites’ scenario.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:00:25pm

re: #166 goddamnedfrank

ayfkm!

RTFM on database security

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:01:05pm

re: #183 Eclectic Cyborg

Seriously. It’s easy as shit to code a use someone else’s code for a random number generator and these idiots couldn’t even figure that out.

Fixed for you.

Writing a true random number generator is non-trivial. Given the level of competence on display here, they’d be much better off using someone else’s work.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:02:06pm

re: #109 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i have to count on ss

the ss trustees say it will be good till abt 2034, and after that will only be able to pay out 75%, unless somebody in dc does s/t about it before then

but what can i do abt it except tell kids to get off my lawn and yell at the sky

Economic forecasts for more than a year in the future are not worth the pixels they are displayed on. Maybe there will be an issue with Social Security in 2034 or maybe 2134 or maybe 2027 or maybe never. We don’t live in a static world with no change in population or environment or technology or mortality. Even an august body like the Social Security trustees who try their best are using the best designed tables and assumptions are using assumptions that are, in essence, close to worthless for any long term prognostication. In 10 years, it might be worth revisiting this issue — but as long as the GOP does nothing to affect the current program, either benefits or revenues, it’s way premature to look at this or worry people with dire predictions about this program. Other programs yes — but not Social Security.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:02:28pm

Sanders’s remarks bear attention because they are clearly part of a coordinated plan to maliciously besmirch an individual. After her first comment, Sanders had a day to think about it before making her Tuesday remarks. After those, she had a day to think about it before making today’s comments, which appeared to come from a prepared text. So this is not an impulsive, on-the-spot type slime job. This is a deliberate, planned effort of the type that reflects the Trump White House’s considered views of how it should respond to Comey. That is, with months to think about the matter, the White House has decided that it wants to respond to Comey’s testimony by falsely accusing him of criminal activity — and to offer no evidence to support its slanders.

It is a prototypical abuse of power — and particularly pernicious because of the White House’s attempts to involve the Justice Department in the project.

RTWT

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:02:32pm

re: #189 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Fixed for you.

Writing a true random number generator is non-trivial. Given the level of competence on display here, they’d be much better off using someone else’s work.

“Why does it keep returning 012345?”

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:02:38pm

PARTY TIME!

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:03:44pm
195
Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:04:56pm

re: #194 The Vicious Babushka

Well fuck yeah. Why should they have to pay anything?

196
Ace Rothstein  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:05:40pm

re: #193 Ace-o-aces

The must punchable face in history.

197
Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:06:52pm

A random password generator I wrote recently:

<?php
$chars = 'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789!@#$%^&*()_-=+;:,.?';
$password = '';
$length = 10;
for ($i = 0; $i < $length; $i++) {
	$password .= $chars[mt_rand(0, strlen($chars) - 1)];
}
?>
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:07:49pm

re: #197 Charles Johnson

A random password generator I wrote recently:

[Embedded content]

openssl rand 9 | base64

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:11:33pm

re: #197 Charles Johnson

A random password generator I wrote recently:

[Embedded content]

do you have the source for mt_rand()?

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:11:46pm

re: #189 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Fixed for you.

Writing a true random number generator is non-trivial. Given the level of competence on display here, they’d be much better off using someone else’s work.

AFAIK, all the random number generators out there are actually pseudo random number generators. The programs use complex mathematical formulas to generate a sequence of numbers; if a user gives the routine a starting seed, the numbers produced will always be the same for that seed. There are mathematical tests to see if a sequence appears random and these will all pass those tests, but they aren’t truly random.

201
wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:12:16pm

re: #174 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

re: #169 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Run ‘em out of town on a rail.

Nah, that’s too much of an honor.

We have cofefes talking to cofefes. I no longer know where I am.

202
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:13:14pm

re: #200 Hecuba’s daughter

AFAIK, all the random number generators out there are actually pseudo random number generators. The programs use complex mathematical formulas to generate a sequence of numbers; if a user gives the routine a starting seed, the numbers produced will always be the same for that seed. There are mathematical tests to see if a sequence appears random and these will all pass those tests, but they aren’t truly random.

There are hardware-based random number generators that are used for truly secure implementations. They’re too costly to integrate into ordinary desktop machines, but a financial institution should be able to pony up for a few such devices.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:13:55pm

How nice of them to give out free condiments.
////

204
Stanley Sea  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:15:21pm
205
Ace-o-aces  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:16:53pm
206
Ace-o-aces  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:17:34pm

re: #203 The Vicious Babushka

How nice of them to give out free condiments.
////

[Embedded content]

Nobody should get that worked up over Ben Shapiro.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:23:15pm

re: #200 Hecuba’s daughter

AFAIK, all the random number generators out there are actually pseudo random number generators. The programs use complex mathematical formulas to generate a sequence of numbers; if a user gives the routine a starting seed, the numbers produced will always be the same for that seed. There are mathematical tests to see if a sequence appears random and these will all pass those tests, but they aren’t truly random.

Yes.

That’s why you don’t try and write one yourself, because it’s very easy to fuck them up in a way that can be figured out. You use someone else’s well tested implementation of it.

208
wheat-dogg  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:24:44pm

OK, my problem with TrustedID enrolment was operator error. I missed the radio button to indicate how long you’ve lived at the address you give.

209
Ace-o-aces  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:25:05pm

Martin Shkreli is a vile human being, and his Facebook post definitely crossed the line. What kind of evil asshole troll would even attempt to stand up for him?

You guessed it!

210
MsJ  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:25:51pm

GODDAMNITFUCKINGREPUBLICANS.

211
Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:26:42pm

re: #209 Ace-o-aces

Martin Shkreli is a vile human being, and his Facebook post definitely crossed the line. What kind of evil asshole troll would even attempt to stand up for him?

You guessed it!

[Embedded content]

Shitbirds of a feather…

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:27:15pm

re: #199 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

do you have the source for mt_rand()?

It’s a built-in PHP function.

It’s true that software-based random number generators aren’t cryptographically secure, but for choosing a random character from a list (as in the code above), that’s not really an important issue.

213
Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:30:26pm
214
EPR-radar  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:30:44pm

re: #200 Hecuba’s daughter

AFAIK, all the random number generators out there are actually pseudo random number generators. The programs use complex mathematical formulas to generate a sequence of numbers; if a user gives the routine a starting seed, the numbers produced will always be the same for that seed. There are mathematical tests to see if a sequence appears random and these will all pass those tests, but they aren’t truly random.

The mathematical operations used in some random number generators are exceedingly simple (i.e., add and multiply), and can still provide pseudo-random sequences that will pass statistical tests for randomness. Making the math more complicated has been known to spoil the randomness, so this is definitely not a do-it-yourself part of computer programming.

215
goddamnedfrank  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:30:51pm

re: #200 Hecuba’s daughter

AFAIK, all the random number generators out there are actually pseudo random number generators. The programs use complex mathematical formulas to generate a sequence of numbers; if a user gives the routine a starting seed, the numbers produced will always be the same for that seed. There are mathematical tests to see if a sequence appears random and these will all pass those tests, but they aren’t truly random.

Yep, true randomness as far as I’m aware requires specialized hardware that acquires its random inputs from a proven stochastic physical process or signal such as atmospheric noise.

216
wheat-dogg  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:31:49pm

re: #207 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Yes.

That’s why you don’t try and write one yourself, because it’s very easy to fuck them up in a way that can be figured out. You use someone else’s well tested implementation of it.

Recently, there was a new cryptocurrency called Iota launched. Some experts at MIT Media Lab discovered that the Iota developers had written their own cryptographic subroutines, which the MIT folks hacked in no time. Their advice to the Iota team, which fixed the errors, was not to create their own subroutines, but use ones that were already vetted by teams of experts in cryptography.

Cryptocurrencies depend on cryptographic routines to make their transaction ledgers secure and reliable. Faulty code subverts the whole concept of the blockchain.

217
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:34:16pm

re: #214 EPR-radar

The mathematical operations used in some random number generators are exceedingly simple (i.e., add and multiply), and can still provide pseudo-random sequences that will pass statistical tests for randomness. Making the math more complicated has been known to spoil the randomness, so this is definitely not a do-it-yourself part of computer programming.

The most common technique for seeding a PRNG, as well as the simplest, is to feed it the current timestamp. Unfortunately, this amounts to security by obscurity - if someone can get ahold of the current timestamp, they now have your random number sequence. Properly seeding a PRNG is a topic in itself.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:34:21pm

re: #207 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Yes.

That’s why you don’t try and write one yourself, because it’s very easy to fuck them up in a way that can be figured out. You use someone else’s well tested implementation of it.

I think that the one we used 30+ years ago for our Monte Carlo simulations for asset/liability studies was designed by a member of our team who was a PhD in mathematics. At that time, he was skeptical of the quality of the function that was included with the compiler. Of course, the results were useless anyway since the underlying theory on markets is so flawed. But we did produce colorful graphs for our clients!

219
Ace-o-aces  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:42:04pm

I don’t have time to watch this, but let me guess. “Something…something…BITCHES MAN!”

220
BeachDem  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:42:56pm

re: #210 MsJ

GODDAMNITFUCKINGREPUBLICANS.

[Embedded content]

Yep—it’s a giant shit sandwich. Maybe Lindsey thought that by acting sort of sane on DACA, he could slide this craporama through.

221
Timothy Watson  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:42:57pm

Did this get posted?

222
The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:45:10pm

re: #210 MsJ

GODDAMNITFUCKINGREPUBLICANS.

[Embedded content]

Jeebus

223
EPR-radar  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:45:44pm

re: #220 BeachDem

Yep—it’s a giant shit sandwich. Maybe Lindsey thought that by acting sort of sane on DACA, he could slide this craporama through.

Republicans are all crooks, so you always have to follow the money. Here repeal of the ACA amounts to a giant tax cut for the rich, so it’s no surprise at all that they are returning to this theme.

My only surprise in this mess is that their first repeal attempt failed.

224
Ace Rothstein  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:46:34pm

But that tan suit.

225
b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:47:10pm

Let those guys howl their butthurt lies about Martin Shkreli.

Please proceed wingnuts.

226
Timothy Watson  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:47:28pm

re: #224 Ace Rothstein

But that tan suit.

[Embedded content]

So senile he can’t dress himself anymore.

Well, actually, he couldn’t before either.

227
Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:47:35pm

re: #137 calochortus

Has anyone posted this happy little story? Shkreli jailed for bounty on Clinton’s hair.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

Shall we start a pool to pick the day Trump pardons him?

228
Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:48:28pm

re: #219 Ace-o-aces

THE DEEP STATE GOT TO MIKE CERNOVICH!

He actually sounds reasonable in this video clip. Something is wrong in the universe.

229
b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:49:38pm

re: #226 Timothy Watson

So senile he can’t dress himself anymore.

Well, actually, he couldn’t before either.

Where is the GarAnimal version of the Trump Chinese made clothing empire?

230
Ace Rothstein  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:54:53pm

re: #224 Ace Rothstein

Also, from the NYT on the Trump/Scott meeting today:

Soon after the meeting ended, White House officials emailed reporters a photograph of Mr. Trump listening intently as Mr. Scott made a point, with both sitting in chairs often used for bilateral meetings with foreign leaders. The White House misidentified him as Tom Scott.

231
Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:55:24pm

re: #20 HappyWarrior

So are any of the so called free speech activists going to say something about a government official urging someone be fired for being critical of Trump? Bueller.

Great question. They had no problem with Kaepernick’s sidelining for his silent protests. They want to shut down BLM activists. They aren’t free speech activists. They’re hate speech activists.

232
Eventual Carrion  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:57:24pm

re: #215 goddamnedfrank

Yep, true randomness as far as I’m aware requires specialized hardware that acquires its random inputs from a proven stochastic physical process or signal such as atmospheric noise.

Or Lava Lamps

233
Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2017 • 4:57:37pm

re: #221 Timothy Watson

“falsified travel records” = lied. Why not just say he lied? And it appears that lying is okay with this administration so I wonder why he really withdrew.

234
Ace-o-aces  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:01:16pm

re: #228 Charles Johnson

THE DEEP STATE GOT TO MIKE CERNOVICH!

He actually sounds reasonable in this video clip. Something is wrong in the universe.

I’d say they drugged his Diet Coke, but we all know REAL MEN don’t drink Diet Coke!

235
Stanley Sea  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:03:23pm

re: #226 Timothy Watson

So senile he can’t dress himself anymore.

Well, actually, he couldn’t before either.

And no one had the nerve to tell him.

The emperor has no clothes.

236
Ace-o-aces  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:07:13pm

re: #209 Ace-o-aces

And #2 in the “defending Pharma Bro” race, fresh off of defending Western civilization by protesting Shakespeare….

237
Stanley Sea  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:08:43pm

re: #224 Ace Rothstein

But that tan suit.

[Embedded content]

Reading the replies (someone else said emperor’s new clothes)

I noticed she TAGGED the yam!

LOL

238
lawhawk  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:09:16pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

Pretty much any effort we take to safeguard our own security/data is undermined by the least secure link.

And it’s always going to be the weak link outside our own damned control.

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:46:05pm

re: #210 MsJ

GODDAMNITFUCKINGREPUBLICANS.

[Embedded content]

Just fired off a rather heated (more than usual) missive to Senator Graham’s contact page.

Grrrrrr.

Fuck him. Pile on!

Lindsey Graham Contact Page

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:50:51pm

re: #228 Charles Johnson

THE DEEP STATE GOT TO MIKE CERNOVICH!

He actually sounds reasonable in this video clip. Something is wrong in the universe.

Did Mikey get a little scared once he heard many of his kind could be on the investigation lists? Maybe some of this might have sobered him up a bit.

241
Dave In Austin  Sep 14, 2017 • 12:59:24am

re: #64 wheat-dogg

T2nmXsl/BfaIEt8ljECLOC5HFYjUaECW9aICHHqzN/keFmP1LOUaVVhfkoj7nxNLxrHgj+gVZtbKDPg0AkwDHk9jclM4K/PfFfBxNYYuySWPto9pXaSeaXa4PEjYSd57VhfOjWiajgeitR1YUaB0UmTRF8pyIfHC8Ul/qepti/2qMveP2NEMzm6DWtfQ4L27WcySFBha29BZUWpn5V6ordl27Hp5t6hYja59+JzluCYPmjdbygJ7oP847Av4DgKeg5s1VcOxH1g=


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