Pharma-Bro Martin Shkreli’s Bail Revoked After He Offered Money for People to Assault Hillary Clinton

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Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy: Martin Shkreli to Be Jailed for Seeking a Hair From Hillary Clinton.

Note to the New York Times: “seeking a hair” is more properly known as “assault and battery.”

Martin Shkreli, the former pharmaceutical executive who is awaiting sentencing for a fraud conviction, was sent to jail on Wednesday after a federal judge found that he presented a threat to the community because he had offered money for a strand of Hillary Clinton’s hair.

Mr. Shkreli, who was free on $5 million bail while he awaited sentencing, offered $5,000 on Facebook to anyone who could “grab a hair” from Mrs. Clinton during her book tour.

“There has been a danger presented through this post,” Judge Kiyo A. Matsumoto said at the hearing in Federal District Court in Brooklyn.

Here’s what Shkreli posted at Facebook; he clearly called for people to “grab a hair from her.”

“The Clinton Foundation is willing to KILL to protect its secrets. So on HRC’s book tour, try to grab a hair from her. I must confirm the sequences I have. Will pay $5,000 per hair obtained from Hilary Clinton. Payment after the sequence matches. Good luck, patrollers.”

Creepy British con man and Alex Jones crony Paul Joseph Watson promptly labeled this threat from a convicted felon “a joke,” because this is the sort of thing right wingers think is the height of comedy.

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205 comments

1
Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:03:53pm

Good!! Best news of the week so far.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:04:06pm

When’s the pardon coming down?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:04:13pm

B-b-but… But her emails…

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:04:36pm

Fuck him.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:07:42pm

Is he wearing a bulletproof vest in that photo?

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:08:01pm

No wonder the right wing hates him:

Facebook Post

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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:08:30pm

Imagine the wingnut outrage if someone offered $5,000 to anyone who would rip out one of Donald’s 10 eight foot long hairs?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:09:44pm
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scottslemmons  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:13:51pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:18:18pm

Odds are really good that Chuck C Johnson was involved in this dumbfuckery and is the one who sold Shkrelli the “sequences” he was hoping to test against.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:20:11pm

I’m still trying to recover from the shock of seeing Mike Cernovich actually take a sane position on Shkreli.

What’s got into him? I mean, I know this is just a temporary lapse from his usual batshit lunacy, but damn.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:21:08pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

I’m still trying to recover from the shock of seeing Mike Cernovich actually take a sane position on Shkreli.

What’s got into him? I mean, I know this is just a temporary lapse from his usual batshit lunacy, but damn.

He doesn’t want to be urinalysis coordinator anymore.

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nowherenorth2  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:23:05pm

re: #4 Ace Rothstein

Agreed. Little shit deserves that cell.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:23:23pm

re: #12 Timothy Watson

He doesn’t want to be urinalysis coordinator anymore.

That’s Jack Posobiec.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:24:43pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

I’m still trying to recover from the shock of seeing Mike Cernovich actually take a sane position on Shkreli.

What’s got into him? I mean, I know this is just a temporary lapse from his usual batshit lunacy, but damn.

InfoWars even gave up on the pedophile pizza thing when they saw it was a lost cause, Martin may fit that stringent criteria.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:24:50pm

Useful new comparison stolen on FB: “fake as Abe Lincoln’s iPad. “

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Timothy Watson  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:27:42pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

That’s Jack Posobiec.

Damn, can’t keep these fucks straight.

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Bubblehead II  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:27:44pm

Hope the Judge that’s going to pass sentence on him for his fraud conviction also takes this into account and adds an additional 20 yrs. This piece of shit needs to compost in jail for the rest of his life

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:29:46pm
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wheat-dogg  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:29:52pm

OK, I’ll admit this variation of the latest over-worked meme is clever.

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:31:12pm

re: #16 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Abe had an Epson HX-20.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:31:47pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

That’s Jack Posobiec.

Just checked and Posobiec hasn’t blurted anything stupid about Shkreli yet.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:32:09pm

re: #7 b.d. (bill d.)

Imagine the wingnut outrage if someone offered $5,000 to anyone who would rip out one of Donald’s 10 eight foot long hairs?

You mean tear out some of the fur from the possum on his head? Conservatives would be yelling bloody murder if anyone “joked” about Trump like that. Hypocrisy is real.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:34:05pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

Thank you. As Happy Warrior asked in the previous thread, where are all of the so-called free speech activists when the President’s Spokeswoman demands that ESPN fire an employee for exercising her free speech rights? This is disgusting.

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Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:35:38pm

re: #7 b.d. (bill d.)

Imagine the wingnut outrage if someone offered $5,000 to anyone who would rip out one of Donald’s 10 eight foot long hairs?

This is the “joke” the psychos are referring to.

“The Clinton Foundation is willing to KILL to protect its secrets. So on HRC’s book tour, try to grab a hair from her. I must confirm the sequences I have. Will pay $5,000 per hair obtained from Hilary Clinton. Payment after the sequence matches. Good luck, patrollers.”

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teleskiguy  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:36:09pm
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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:37:03pm

re: #25 Skip Intro

This is the “joke” the psychos are referring to.

“The Clinton Foundation is willing to KILL to protect its secrets. So on HRC’s book tour, try to grab a hair from her. I must confirm the sequences I have. Will pay $5,000 per hair obtained from Hilary Clinton. Payment after the sequence matches. Good luck, patrollers.”

I thought Martin Shkreli was supposed to be smart somehow?

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bratwurst  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:37:28pm

What the fucking fuck?

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Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:38:19pm

re: #28 bratwurst

That’s absolutely true.

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EPR-radar  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:38:52pm

re: #27 b.d. (bill d.)

I thought Martin Shkreli was supposed to be smart somehow?

No. Shkreli is just a rich SOB and convicted criminal. But the rich = smart fallacy is firmly in place for many.

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bratwurst  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:40:15pm

re: #29 Skip Intro

That’s absolutely true.

Yes! But as I taught my students for many years, just because something is true doesn’t mean you should say it.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:40:17pm

I love the word gaol.

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:41:01pm

re: #28 bratwurst

Uni Watch on the Confederate flag
espn.com

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Timothy Watson  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:41:50pm

re: #32 b.d. (bill d.)

I love the word gaol.

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Did you want to be a gaoler growing up? :)

(I only know the word because of A Song of Ice and Fire.)

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majii  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:42:48pm

If he’d stop long enough and would take a good, long, hard, critical look at himself, Shkreli would probably stop with the stupid attention-seeking antics. The reality that he refuses to admit is that he’s a pitiful, immature-looking critter. He reminds me of some of my former students, especially those who were social misfits/outsiders and would do outrageous things, including bullying their fellow students, to take their minds off the fact that they were being constantly rejected by most of their classmates. Maybe some time spent behind bars will help him to mature to the point at which he’ll begin to think and act like an adult, develop some consideration for others, and realize that being rich doesn’t mean he can do/say anything that pops into his head and suffer zero consequences for doing/saying inappropriate/disparaging things to/about others.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:42:59pm

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

Odds are really good that Chuck C Johnson was involved in this dumbfuckery and is the one who sold Shkrelli the “sequences” he was hoping to test against.

I had the exact same thought. This reeks of the Rage Furby’s sick mental patterns.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:43:16pm

re: #24 Patricia Kayden

Thank you. As Happy Warrior asked in the previous thread, where are all of the so-called free speech activists when the President’s Spokeswoman demands that ESPN fire an employee for exercising her free speech rights? This is disgusting.

How strange is it that so 1st and 2nd A advocacy is largely either or? We can all stand up for all of those critical first five. Yes including the scary 2nd. Why not? Sure one can argue about how much leeway with violent or explicit speech. And we need to see the 2nd in a very different light that does not threaten an individuals ability to hunt or defend.

But forget those quibbles a minute. We should all agree we can step up and defend the full Bill of Rights. Unflinchingly.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:44:14pm

re: #28 bratwurst

What the fucking fuck?

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I’m reading it as the nasty truth.

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William Lewis  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:44:49pm

re: #35 majii

If he’d stop long enough and would take a good, long, hard, critical look at himself, Shkreli would probably stop with the stupid attention-seeking antics. The reality that he refuses to admit is that he’s a pitiful, immature-looking critter. He reminds me of some of my former students, especially those who were social misfits/outsiders and would do outrageous things, including bullying their fellow students, to take their minds off the fact that they were being constantly rejected by most of their classmates. Maybe some time spent behind bars will help him to mature to the point at which he’ll begin to think and act like an adult, develop some consideration for others, and realize that being rich doesn’t mean he can do/say anything that pops into his head and suffer zero consequences for doing/saying inappropriate/disparaging things to/about others.

Odds are against it. He’ll come out in 120 to 240 months and still be blaming everyone else for his troubles. Hopefully he’ll be completely broke by then because otherwise he’ll go right back to acting like before.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:45:37pm

re: #32 b.d. (bill d.)

I love the word gaol.

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I always find myself saying ‘gay-ole’ in my mind, as in what kind of time we’ll have when we meet the Flintstones, in addition to a yubba-dubba-do time.

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EPR-radar  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:45:55pm

re: #35 majii

If he’d stop long enough and would take a good, long, hard, critical look at himself, Shkreli would probably stop with the stupid attention-seeking antics. The reality that he refuses to admit is that he’s a pitiful, immature-looking critter. He reminds me of some of my former students, especially those who were social misfits/outsiders and would do outrageous things, including bullying their fellow students, to take their minds off the fact that they were being constantly rejected by most of their classmates. Maybe some time spent behind bars will help him to mature to the point at which he’ll begin to think and act like an adult, develop some consideration for others, and realize that being rich doesn’t mean he can do/say anything that pops into his head and suffer zero consequences for doing/saying inappropriate/disparaging things to/about others.

On the other hand, Shkreli could see validation of all his toxic issues in the fact that tr*mp is president and be as shitty a person when he leaves prison as when he entered.

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William Lewis  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:48:48pm

re: #38 Stanley Sea

I’m reading it as the nasty truth.

Marge Schott, Ty Cobb, etc. Baseball has always been a pit of racist scum that originally segregated for the love of southern money and only reintegrated because the negro leagues were poised to start making real money.

It would be a good thing if professional baseball went away.

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:50:04pm
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bratwurst  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:51:32pm

re: #42 William Lewis

It would be a good thing if professional baseball went away.

I am a sick man who has few pleasures in life other than watching professional baseball.

Forgive me if I strongly disagree.

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EPR-radar  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:51:59pm

re: #42 William Lewis

Marge Schott, Ty Cobb, etc. Baseball has always been a pit of racist scum that originally segregated for the love of southern money and only reintegrated because the negro leagues were poised to start making real money.

It would be a good thing if professional baseball went away.

Sports in general seem to become corrupt cesspits as soon as any real amount of money is involved, both professional and amateur (e.g., NCAA Division I, Olympics). The corruption in big $$$ amateur sports is especially irritating.

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bratwurst  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:53:10pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:54:57pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

Yep. I could demand that ESPN fire Jamele HIll. If I ran ESPN I could even fire him. The government and its employees cannot, however. That is absolutely what the First Amendment means.

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:55:57pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:56:30pm

re: #28 bratwurst

What the fucking fuck?

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Sounds like they’re protesting racism.

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:57:18pm

re: #46 bratwurst

No External Thinking Allowed In The Ballpark.

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bratwurst  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:57:29pm

re: #49 Patricia Kayden

Sounds like they’re protesting racism.

It’s possible, but as much of Twitter has been pointing out: in Trump’s America we can’t be sure if that is for or against.

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:57:35pm

Well crap…I was CL’n away in the last thread because I got side tracked being all pissed off by the next attempt at killing the ACA.

But I think this important. So, I’ll post it again.

- - - - -

Just fired off a rather heated (more than usual) missive to Senator Graham’s contact page.

Grrrrrr.

Fuck him. Pile on!

Lindsey Graham Contact Page

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EPR-radar  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:57:48pm

re: #46 bratwurst

“Racism is as American as baseball” is a simple truth, but displaying that sign at a baseball game is incompetent advocacy in my opinion. Maximizing the reflexive defensiveness while minimizing the persuasiveness is a poor strategy.

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:58:14pm

re: #51 bratwurst

I’m sure it’s against. The ‘fors’ don’t like to mention it.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:58:17pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Yep. I could demand that ESPN fire Jamele HIll. If I ran ESPN I could even fire him. The government and its employees cannot, however. That is absolutely what the First Amendment means.

If you did that out of fear of the Government or the President, that’s utterly completely unacceptable. If you did that because you were an ESPN owning Trump humper, well I guess then merely despicable. :-)

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:58:35pm

re: #46 bratwurst

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If only they moved so quickly to remove the fans that yell racist shit.

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:59:03pm
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bratwurst  Sep 13, 2017 • 5:59:21pm

re: #56 Barefoot Grin

If only they moved so quickly to remove the fans that yell racist shit.

Great point…and in that ballpark in particular.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:00:19pm

re: #43 jaunte

So basically Trump’s defense team can collect funds from anyone (including Russians), right? Trump was right when he said he could get away with pretty much anything. Sigh.

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EPR-radar  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:01:34pm

re: #59 Patricia Kayden

So basically Trump’s defense team can collect funds from anyone (including Russians), right? Trump was right when he said he could get away with pretty much anything. Sigh.

The one thing tr*mp can’t get away with is fucking up (or being seen as fucking up) the GOP drive for tax cuts this year.

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:02:16pm

re: #60 EPR-radar

It’s like they haven’t met him.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:02:31pm

re: #46 bratwurst

Sad to say, in the Trump era I can’t tell if that sign is supporting or opposing racism.

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:03:08pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

I’m still trying to recover from the shock of seeing Mike Cernovich actually take a sane position on Shkreli.

What’s got into him? I mean, I know this is just a temporary lapse from his usual batshit lunacy, but damn.

I had also posted this in the last thread (R.I.P. Curious Lurker) to your comment there.

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Did Mikey get a little scared once he heard many of his kind could be on the investigation lists? Maybe some of this might have sobered him up a bit.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:04:50pm

re: #53 EPR-radar

Protests are fine. I have no problem with the sign. Racists aren’t going to be moved no matter what is said or done. And anyone who is butt hurt because of a banner decrying racism would probably be upset at any other kind of protest. Just ask Kapaernick.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:05:16pm

Good.

& Wow, I missed the original story. He’s lucky to be alive.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:05:54pm

Now getting comments from people who want to tell me it’s not a violation of the 1st Amendment for the White House to call for journalists to be fired for criticizing the president. Muted.

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:06:14pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:08:58pm

re: #67 lawhawk

Watch as the Trump administration now makes flag-burning a big issue. When Junior floats this on Twitter it’s not by accident.

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teleskiguy  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:09:13pm
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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:10:14pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Watch as the Trump administration now makes flag-burning a big issue. When Junior floats this on Twitter it’s not by accident.

I hope the Dems aren’t dumb enough to take the bait.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:12:11pm

re: #7 b.d. (bill d.)

Imagine the wingnut outrage if someone offered $5,000 to anyone who would rip out one of Donald’s 10 eight foot long hairs?

i’m tempted to offer a significant cash reward to anybody who shaves donnie’s head as i am getting weary of viewing the perplexing concoction he arranges there

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teleskiguy  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:12:28pm
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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:13:42pm

re: #28 bratwurst

What the fucking fuck?

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But what about Kaepernick???

Damn this country’s worst aspects have been loosed.

Thanks Trump.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:14:00pm

re: #67 lawhawk

If using the wrong pronoun is considered hate speech by some, couldn’t burning the flag be hate speech towards those who died defending it?

this president donnie, she says the dumbest things

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:14:03pm
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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:14:30pm

re: #29 Skip Intro

That’s absolutely true.

Sure is. But when was the last time you saw it on a banner at a sporting event?

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JordanRules  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:15:32pm

re: #52 ObserverArt

I just sent him a little somethin, somethin too!

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Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:18:30pm

re: #76 ObserverArt

I’m with Charles here. I can’t tell whether it’s for or against.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:21:32pm

re: #65 Stanley Sea
Sigh. Glad this guy is going down.
The lede implies felony charges for those words. Nope, felony assault for spitting at and hitting people. Rude rants don’t get felony papers. Racist rants showing racial motivation for assault is just icing on the cake.

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:21:43pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

I had the exact same thought. This reeks of the Rage Furby’s sick mental patterns.

You mean like this?

Note: as posted by Chuck C, so it has his title.

Jamie Weinstein assaults Charles C. Johnson

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JordanRules  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:26:05pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:26:17pm

#Inception

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Decatur Deb  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:27:12pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

Pro-tip: when @DonaldJTrumpJr brings up flag-burning on Twitter it’s not an accident. Expect this to be a sudden right wing issue soon.

October is Fire Prevention Month. Jr. is just getting ready.

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:27:23pm

re: #45 EPR-radar

Sports in general seem to become corrupt cesspits as soon as any real amount of money is involved, both professional and amateur (e.g., NCAA Division I, Olympics). The corruption in big $$$ amateur sports is especially irritating.

It is not just sports. It is just about everything.

It’s pretty hard for me to think baseball is totally full of racism when so many minorities are now involved. It is America like they say…and racism has always been present in America.

Baseball can be good and bad just as everything else. Welcome to America. Take it out on the racists, not a game or anything else that is just a reflection of our problems.

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:28:05pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Yep. I could demand that ESPN fire Jamele HIll. If I ran ESPN I could even fire him. The government and its employees cannot, however. That is absolutely what the First Amendment means.

Her.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:28:42pm

re: #67 lawhawk

In the replies:

Edited: Added the comment she replies to.

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JordanRules  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:31:51pm

High praise for this!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:32:41pm

re: #64 Patricia Kayden

As I saw someone put it (very astutely), the problem is that we can’t tell for sure that the banner isn’t identifying (or pointing out the obvious) a problem …or justifying it.

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:33:26pm

re: #66 Charles Johnson

Now getting comments from people who want to tell me it’s not a violation of the 1st Amendment for the White House to call for journalists to be fired for criticizing the president. Muted.

The world has gone bassackwards. Your run-ins on Twitter with the 1st amendment is a good case study.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:33:59pm

imho justice will have been served if that smug superior grin is wiped off of shkreli’s face

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:34:12pm

Mark Warner on Maddow just now issued a very clear warning to Facebook to start cooperating.

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:36:19pm
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JordanRules  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:36:34pm

re: #84 ObserverArt

It’s pretty hard for me to think baseball is totally full of racism when so many minorities are now involved.

The power deficit is one big way modern racism is reflected in baseball. It’s definitely still there despite what the labor class looks like. Agree with the rest of what you said.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:37:43pm

“Seeking a hair” really hits home with anthropologists—it’s a process in witchcraft in parts of Africa and Africa-influenced America. Then again, if CCJ is involved, that’s just SCIENCE.

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:38:05pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Watch as the Trump administration now makes flag-burning a big issue. When Junior floats this on Twitter it’s not by accident.

Not this shit. Again.

I got into this with my older blockheaded brother back in the 80s when it was a thing. He got to foaming at the mouth over it.

I shut him up for two minutes when I asked him and his equally dense wife if I took their wedding rings from them, is their marriage over?

I don’t know if they shut up because they understood or because they didn’t. I didn’t stay much longer after that crap to find out. It was always time to leave when he started raging.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:39:35pm

Well, well, someone has created a website to dox Taylor Ragg, the Transylvania University senior who outed his DACA classmate online.

taylorragg.com

There is also a wiki entry devoted to the little weasel.
everipedia.org

It seems T.Ragg is no longer enrolled at Transy.

On September 13th, 2017, the president of Transy, Seamus Carey, and vice president for enrollment and student life, Holly Sheilley, expressed support for Paola Garcia and frustration that the case took time to resolve. Spokeswoman Michele Sparks said senior Taylor Ragg left campus following a grievance process performed by school administrators. [13]​—> kentucky.com

Due to overwhelming concern over the actions by Taylor, officials announced that he was no longer enrolled at the university. [14]​ —> ibid.

It seems racism and bigotry do not pay, at least for some people below the millionaire level.

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:41:19pm

re: #65 Stanley Sea

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Good.

& Wow, I missed the original story. He’s lucky to be alive.

I watched the video earlier. He came thisclose to getting his ass good and kicked. That one guy he spit at was ready to rip his head off.

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electrotek  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:41:27pm

Oh great, I’m arguing with wingnuts about the ESPN journalist and they had to bring up Obama’s comments on Don Imus.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:43:05pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Watch as the Trump administration now makes flag-burning a big issue. When Junior floats this on Twitter it’s not by accident.

I guess same sex marriage and trans bathroom terror are too 2016 to get a rise out of the masses.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:46:02pm

re: #98 electrotek

Oh great, I’m arguing with wingnuts about the ESPN journalist and they had to bring up Obama’s comments on Don Imus.

What were Obama’s comments on Imus? I don’t remember.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:49:03pm

re: #82 goddamnedfrank

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#Inception

White House Plumbers

The White House Plumbers, sometimes simply called the Plumbers, was a covert White House Special Investigations Unit, established July 24, 1971, during the presidency of Richard Nixon. Its task was to stop the leaking of classified information, such as the Pentagon Papers, to the news media. Its members branched into illegal activities while working for the Committee to Re-elect the President, including the Watergate break-in and the ensuing Watergate scandal.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:50:35pm

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William Lewis  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:51:32pm

re: #44 bratwurst

I am a sick man who has few pleasures in life other than watching professional baseball.

Forgive me if I strongly disagree.

I seriously hope you get much pleasure from it, I simply am unable to for myself. May the sport always give you what you desire.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:51:59pm

So it seems US forces are about to go nose to nose with Russian forces in Syria. Only the Euphrates separating them Tensions high, crappy leadership here in the US. Yikes.
thedrive.com

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electrotek  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:52:24pm

re: #100 Belafon

What were Obama’s comments on Imus? I don’t remember.

This

In an interview with ABC News Wednesday afternoon, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., called for the firing of talk radio host Don Imus. Obama said he would never again appear on Imus’ show, which is broadcast on CBS Radio and MSNBC television.

“I understand MSNBC has suspended Mr. Imus,” Obama told ABC News, “but I would also say that there’s nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:52:25pm

re: #80 ObserverArt

You mean like this?

Note: as posted by Chuck C, so it has his title.

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Why would Rage Furby have somebody following him closely with a camera if he wasn’t planning some dirty trick?

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wheat-dogg  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:54:35pm

We can watch the death of Cassini — live. How very cheery.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:55:08pm

re: #96 wheat-dogg

Well, well, someone has created a website to dox Taylor Ragg, the Transylvania University senior who outed his DACA classmate online.

taylorragg.com

There is also a wiki entry devoted to the little weasel.
everipedia.org

It seems T.Ragg is no longer enrolled at Transy.

It seems racism and bigotry do not pay, at least for some people below the millionaire level.

Good stuff. Thanks.

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2017 • 6:59:16pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:02:59pm

re: #96 wheat-dogg

Transylvania University

wikipedia entry reveals that transylvania’s mascot is a “pioneer” thus failing to take advantage of a powerful marketing meme

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:03:34pm

More mansplaining and bullshit, this time from Carl Bernstein.

Couldn’t think of a worse candidate to run against Trump? Besides all the GOPers who got destroyed by Trump in the primaries? Besides Sanders who got crushed by Clinton in the Dem primaries? Besides Stein who was a Russian-branded footnote?

Clinton beat Trump in the pop vote, and but for an uneven distribution of where those votes were, she would have been president and we wouldn’t be worried about people losing health coverage, watching Trump dismember the EPA and cringe every time Trump speaks about some nonsense he just heard on infowars or Faux News.

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teleskiguy  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:04:28pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:04:31pm

re: #109 lawhawk

She’s a better liar than Spicer who at least appeared conflicted. She lies effortlessly and talks down to journalists as if she’s smarter than them. Her Daddy must be proud to have raised such a smooth liar.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:05:27pm

re: #113 Patricia Kayden

She’s a better liar than Spicer who at least appeared conflicted. She lies effortlessly and talks down to journalists as if she’s smarter than them. Her Daddy must be proud to have raised such a smooth liar.

Lyin’ for Jesus

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:05:36pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:06:01pm

re: #112 teleskiguy

Good for him though. That’s exactly the stance to take. Trump is a White Supremacist and there is nothing wrong with saying that out loud no matter where you work.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:06:39pm
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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:06:53pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

An agreement that carries the Trump Guarantee™

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teleskiguy  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:07:08pm

re: #116 Patricia Kayden

Good for him though. That’s exactly the stance to take. Trump is a White Supremacist and there is nothing wrong with saying that out loud no matter where you work.

No doubt. Still, the racism couldn’t be more naked.

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:07:22pm

Or rather, the Trump Guarantee*

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:08:17pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Watch as the Trump administration now makes flag-burning a big issue. When Junior floats this on Twitter it’s not by accident.

Bush Jr. did the same.

I am not a big fan of flag-burning; I would not do such a thing myself.

That said, I have all my adult life affirmed to uphold the Constitution, and that includes free expression. Expression the majority doesn’t agree with is the expression most in need of protection.

Some months ago when someone stopped a person from burning a flag in Iowa at a protest, a bunch of people here wrote the newspaper and stood up for that, using the same arguments (people died for that flag, &c).

Being the contrary liberal round here, and because it had been a while since the paper printed one of my letters, I took the side of the flag-burner. I noted the issue of defending speech one doesn’t like, but also that the flag doesn’t represent the military or vets: it represents everyone.

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:08:44pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

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Chuck & Nancy: Troll level - expert.

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:08:55pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

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Speaker Ryan, Senator McConnell, please answer the white courtesy phone.

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calochortus  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:09:34pm

re: #109 lawhawk

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Now, now. She may not be a liar. She may just have a very bad memory. It would be a help in her current employment.

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:10:39pm

re: #110 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

wikipedia entry reveals that transylvania’s mascot is a “pioneer” thus failing to take advantage of a powerful marketing meme

The Impalers would be a hell of a javelin team.

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teleskiguy  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:11:17pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

Countdown to Ann Coulter calling Fuckface Von Clownstick a ‘cuck’ in 5… 4… 3…

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:12:04pm

re: #126 teleskiguy

In any event, Trump can’t promise what he can’t deliver. It’s still up to Ryan and McConnell on all of this - not Trump.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:12:13pm

re: #98 electrotek

Imus made a racist comment. Jamielle denounced Trump’s racism. I don’t see how they’re comparable.

Imus attacked basketball players. Had he made a derogatory comment about President Obama, it would have been wrong for Obama or one if his spokespersons to advocate for his termination.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:12:53pm

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:13:26pm

re: #110 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

wikipedia entry reveals that transylvania’s mascot is a “pioneer” thus failing to take advantage of a powerful marketing meme

Oldest university west of the Appalachians.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:14:09pm

re: #127 lawhawk

And Ryan has already said that he’d reject any deal on DACA without major concessions on border security. We’ll have to wait and see.

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electrotek  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:14:35pm

re: #117 wheat-dogg

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Try telling that to Pakistanis, who aren’t doing enough to curtail rising population growth in the country.

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:15:18pm

re: #127 lawhawk

In any event, Trump can’t promise what he can’t deliver. It’s still up to Ryan and McConnell on all of this - not Trump.

Thing is, it’s pretty much exactly up their alley. Drop funding for a wall that nobody supports, push protection for the Dreamers that has bipartisan support, and throw some scraps to the “border security” crowd.

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teleskiguy  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:15:41pm

I hate this meme, so goddamned played out. Still…

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:16:41pm

re: #111 lawhawk

More mansplaining and bullshit, this time from Carl Bernstein.

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Couldn’t think of a worse candidate to run against Trump? Besides all the GOPers who got destroyed by Trump in the primaries? Besides Sanders who got crushed by Clinton in the Dem primaries? Besides Stein who was a Russian-branded footnote?

Clinton beat Trump in the pop vote, and but for an uneven distribution of where those votes were, she would have been president and we wouldn’t be worried about people losing health coverage, watching Trump dismember the EPA and cringe every time Trump speaks about some nonsense he just heard on infowars or Faux News.

This happened on Tweety’s Hardball. I still don’t know what to think of this mess…especially all of the explainin’ by the damn ‘panel’ of experts.

In a margin so thin, the Comey letter sure as hell could explain it. And they miss big time on why white people voted for Trump. A little close at times but to me so far away.

Iframe

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:16:57pm

re: #84 ObserverArt

It is not just sports. It is just about everything.

It’s pretty hard for me to think baseball is totally full of racism when so many minorities are now involved. It is America like they say…and racism has always been present in America.

Baseball can be good and bad just as everything else. Welcome to America. Take it out on the racists, not a game or anything else that is just a reflection of our problems.

That’s the problem with protests: There is always someone who will tell you either “this is not the time” or “this is not the place” (or both).

Protests aren’t supposed to be comfortable or convenient.

Racism is a problem in the USA, and baseball is not some sacrosanct issue that rises to the level of religious protection (and you can protest churches as well).

If you can ban speech you don’t like at a baseball game, you can most certainly ban it from political activities (which are directly protected by the Constitution’s rights to assembly and speech).

That said, Major League Baseball is a private organisation. They can eject someone if they wish. I suppose that’s up to their marketing people to decide if having people frog-marched out of one of their parks is a good look.

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Jay C  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:17:11pm

re: #127 lawhawk

In any event, Trump can’t promise what he can’t deliver. It’s still up to Ryan and McConnell on all of this - not Trump.

Still epic trolling, though ( tho with Combover Caligula in the WH it’s very hard to tell if it’s real, feigned, or unconscious).

It might not work, but the thought of the Pres getting behind a Wall-less border “plan” and a DACA “legalization” must be giving Republicans agita…..

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:17:51pm

re: #113 Patricia Kayden

She’s a better liar than Spicer who at least appeared conflicted. She lies effortlessly and talks down to journalists as if she’s smarter than them. Her Daddy must be proud to have raised such a smooth liar.

A great trait for such devout Christians.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:18:36pm

re: #129 Barefoot Grin

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:18:45pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

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The reaction should be fun.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:19:31pm

re: #129 Barefoot Grin

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:20:09pm

re: #67 lawhawk

Standing ovation for the Vets’ tweet. The flag is nothing but a piece of cloth. Why should burning it be criminalized in a country where Zimmerman gets to shoot down an unarmed Black kid and walk away scot free? Give me a dang break!!

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:22:05pm

re: #139 Belafon

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:22:24pm
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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:23:46pm
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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:24:45pm

The Famous 20 Minute Trump Guarantee.

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teleskiguy  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:26:52pm

All the major media outlets are touting a “great deal made” between Fuckface Von Clownstick and Democrats. Political journalism in this country is so irreparably fucked.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:27:29pm

re: #141 wheat-dogg

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:28:41pm

Off to bed! Hope all is well wherever you are.

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teleskiguy  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:28:57pm
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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:29:38pm

re: #150 teleskiguy

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:31:39pm

re: #150 teleskiguy

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Don’t be a holdin’ back now.

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William Lewis  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:32:03pm

I took an hour away from the job search late this afternoon. For an idea of what I was up to, take a quick glance at my page Almost Autumn

Thanks!

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wheat-dogg  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:32:20pm

re: #148 Barefoot Grin

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:33:47pm

re: #145 jaunte

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So yesterday Trump signals that the wall isn’t required for a deal on DACA, then we get report of a deal to help the Dreamers that doesn’t require a wall, and suddenly the White House needs a wall again.

They can’t seem to keep their story straight.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:34:24pm

Democratic leaders on Wednesday night declared that they had a deal with President Trump to quickly extend protections for young undocumented immigrants and to finalize a border security package that does not include the president’s border wall.

After a White House dinner with the president, the Democrats, Senator Chuck Schumer of New York and Representative Nancy Pelosi of California, released a joint statement that appeared aimed at ensuring that the president would follow through after their discussions on the program known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA.

“We had a very productive meeting at the White House with the president,” the statement said. “The discussion focused on DACA. We agreed to enshrine the protections of DACA into law quickly, and to work out a package of border security, excluding the wall, that’s acceptable to both sides.”

nytimes.com

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freetoken  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:36:56pm

re: #150 teleskiguy

Pedant here: While the word “communist” is still used for China, objectively the government is more autocratic than anything else. There is little socialized support for the populace, and plenty of private property of all sorts and free-ish enterprise.

The leaders of China are nationalistic autocrats. Oligarchs too, given the small inner-cabal that horde the power.

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MsJ  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:38:25pm

re: #52 ObserverArt

I sent Lindsay a short missive.

The asshole.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:38:39pm
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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:38:54pm

re: #151 jaunte

All Trump does is lie. He lies about the tax rate.

The base rate is 25%. You could get a 15% rate in China if you meet certain qualifications.

Thing is that most US companies aren’t paying the marginal US corporate tax rate.

The average corporate rate across taxpayers is 19%. The stories where we hear that GE or Apple paid low single digits in various tax years are all over the place. Companies like Trump’s slew of real estate ventures could also pay low effective tax rates thanks to basic concepts like depreciation and amortization along with other legal tax reduction strategies.

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JordanRules  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:39:00pm

re: #119 teleskiguy

He’s also trolling. LOL

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:40:33pm

Oh boy, this ought to go over well.

Wonkette Hereby Applies for Job on Sexcellent Infowars Alex Jones Team of Elites

Alex Jones put out a help wanted advert on Twitter. Evan Hurst took him up on it, making an application to Infowars for the positions of “On-Camera Reporter” or “Free-Lance Journalist.”

Since Infowars in the past called Wonkette “fake news,” Mr. Hurst helpfully provided a whole lot of links to previous Alex Jones or Infowars articles they wrote about.

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:42:14pm

re: #159 Charles Johnson


en.wikipedia.org
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wheat-dogg  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:42:54pm

re: #157 freetoken

Pedant here: While the word “communist” is still used for China, objectively the government is more autocratic than anything else. There is little socialized support for the populace, and plenty of private property of all sorts and free-ish enterprise.

The leaders of China are nationalistic autocrats. Oligarchs too, given the small inner-cabal that horde the power.

This is an accurate description, but there is a lot of overlap between state enterprises and private businesses, especially under the table.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:47:49pm
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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:49:12pm

re: #165 Stanley Sea

Kicking the Wall down the road.

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teleskiguy  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:50:24pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:50:54pm
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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:54:04pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:54:50pm
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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:56:23pm

He’s going to have to tweet a book to get even.

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teleskiguy  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:57:06pm

He’s rolling.

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 7:58:15pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:03:22pm

Off-topic:

Coming back from the VA hospital in Cheyenne, I was admiring a double rainbow just after I crossed the Wyoming/Nebraska state line while I was driving on US-30.

Don’t do that. I went by a state police officer going the other direction about 15 mph over the speed limit.

Spent some time on the road while he checked me out … received a written warning about speeding (and a couple jokes about doing that in a Smart). That was the first time I was pulled over since the Eighties (the power steering pump failed in the car and I was pulled over by a Florida sheriff on suspicion of drunk driving half a block from my house).

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:04:43pm
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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:06:17pm

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:07:13pm
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bratwurst  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:07:59pm

OH NOES!

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:08:40pm

re: #180 bratwurst

No promise is credible!

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prairiefire  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:09:57pm

re: #180 bratwurst

Fingers crossed! Come on Donnie, keep heading toward the light! He’s such a sucker for any positive accomplishment. Schmooze, schmooze, schmooze!

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MsJ  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:09:59pm

re: #138 ObserverArt

A great trait for such devout Christians.

Devout my tuchas.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:11:32pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:12:36pm

re: #180 bratwurst

Steve King (R-acist) and other Republicans (and maybe some of Donald Trump’s supporters) are starting to figure out that Mr. Trump’s word isn’t worth much? His campaign promises were vapourware to cover his (alleged) plundering of the Treasury? That he doesn’t care about the average Republican voter?

Many of us on the left did try to tell them that … oh, well. Let’s see how that plays in future special elections (since the Democrats are already doing well in those), and the upcoming NJ and VA general elections this year.

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:12:39pm

Hard Lessons For Steve King From Trump University.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:13:05pm
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electrotek  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:13:31pm
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Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:14:01pm

King will be back on the TrumpTrain by tomorrow.

Just watch.

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:14:37pm

re: #172 jaunte

He’s going to have to tweet a book to get even.

Page by page, comment by comment…no slight left unanswered.

Our President is an Asshole.

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MsJ  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:15:05pm

re: #181 jaunte

No promise is credible!

Well, duh. Trump is a consummate liar.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:15:28pm
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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:15:36pm

re: #190 ObserverArt

A sore one.

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Jay C  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:16:48pm

re: #173 teleskiguy

He’s rolling.

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Heh. Hillary Clinton didn’t need to get elected to move into the White House: she’s apparently been living there rent-free in Trump’s head since January….

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:17:27pm

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:18:56pm
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KGxvi  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:20:31pm

Saw the headline on CNN. Had to check the comments at brietbart. They are… dispondent

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ObserverArt  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:20:40pm

re: #193 jaunte

A sore one.

Painful bleeding from his…whatever.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:21:25pm

Hmm. I have an E-mail from someone named Pincuks Vladimirs with an attachment and the subject line RE: New Order for September.

Gee, I wonder what that is?

Pulls out E-mail flamethrower

That should do it. (O noes! Liberal politician Benghazied all over his E-mails and deleted it! Jail him!)

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electrotek  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:21:27pm

re: #128 Patricia Kayden

Imus made a racist comment. Jamielle denounced Trump’s racism. I don’t see how they’re comparable.

Imus attacked basketball players. Had he made a derogatory comment about President Obama, it would have been wrong for Obama or one if his spokespersons to advocate for his termination.

Thank you!

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majii  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:23:29pm

re: #197 KGxvi

“Saw the headline on CNN. Had to check the comments at brietbart. They are… dispondent”

That’s to be expected when millions of voters simply don’t understand how their own government works. Even though it’s never been true since 1789, Trump supporters still seem to think that being an American president is the same as being a dictator.

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MsJ  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:26:03pm

I just got this from Credit Karma.

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You’re already enrolled in free credit monitoring, so we’ll let you know if we see changes on your credit reports. We’re also accelerating our plans to expand our credit monitoring services, and we’ll be introducing more alerts in the next few weeks.

We recommend checking your reports today to make sure everything looks right.

This is a free service. I recommend them. You see your credit scores and your accounts. It shows inquiries into to your file so you should be able to spot fraud. And they email you with changes.

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Jay C  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:26:52pm

re: #189 Skip Intro

King will be back on the TrumpTrain by tomorrow.

Just watch.

I dunno: “legitimizing” (and not deporting) DACA kids - however much support the policy may have among the public - is going to look like a huge slap-in-the-face to the “populist”/”nationalist” crowd, and carry the unacceptable evil stench of the dreaded AMNESTY!!1!!11! to the round-em-all-up-and-deport-em xenophobes for whom Steve King and his ilk are the (literal) Great White Hopes (actually “Dopes”, but who’s counting?).

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 13, 2017 • 8:31:30pm

Well, if Rep. Pelosi and Sen. Schumer were successful:

Neil Finn - Don’t Dream It’s Over (live with strings, Auckland 2015)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 14, 2017 • 7:12:03am

re: #169 Charles Johnson


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