A Beautiful Cover of John Mayer’s “Slow Dancing in a Burning Room,” by Mike Dawes and Nick Johnston

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Full Guitar TAB + MP3 Available // ERA is out TODAY: mikedawes.co.uk Mike Dawes covers ‘Slow Dancing in a Burning Room’ by John Mayer on a single guitar. Guest solo by Nick Johnston. Subscribe and share with your friends if you enjoy! Tour dates in the UK, NZ, Australia and Germany at bandsintown.com

All the sounds you hear on this song are produced by one guitar, played by one person. Live looping towards the end of the song beneath Nick’s solo.

Mike’s second album ERA is out today (September 15th) worldwide via Qten Records. ERA also features Mike’s viral cover of Metallica’s ‘One’.

Video by Randy Edwards in Los Angeles. Additional editing by G1 Productions, Wells UK.

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1
Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:13:31pm

Trying to get Twitchy to call out the hordes to harass me for pointing out that the guy Trump RTed may be running a scam GoFundMe page.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:15:29pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Trying to get Twitchy to call out the hordes to harass me for pointing out that the guy Trump RTed may be running a scam GoFundMe page.

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These same thugs see nothing wrong with Chuck C Johnson harassing a Senator’s wife who suffered from Alzheimer’s…

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Belafon  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:16:50pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Looks very botlike: 3 tweets.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:18:35pm

re: #2 Joe Bacon 🌹

These same thugs see nothing wrong with Chuck C Johnson harassing a Senator’s wife who suffered from Alzheimer’s…

Malkin herself went after a child advocating SCHIPs. These people project more than IMAX.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:25:30pm

Bump in U.S. Incomes Doesn’t Erase 50 Years of Pain

According to one conservative measure of inflation, in 1967, the median income at age 25 was $33,300; in 1983, it was $29,000. Twenty-five-year-olds did better during the 1990s, but then the slide returned. In 2011, the median income for 25-year-old men was less than $25,000 — pretty much the same as it was in 1959.

The picture for women looks different because so many more of them started at a disadvantage: Few worked full time in the 1950s, and those who did earned below-average wages. As more women entered the work force over the decades, their lifetime earnings rose. But more recently, as the share of women working has leveled off, their lifetime income gains, too, have slowed.

The result is that, since the 1950s, three-quarters of working Americans have seen no change in lifetime income. Health and retirement benefits have made up some of the lost ground, but far from all of it.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:25:38pm

Drooling insanity from Lubbock: This is the mainstream in that benighted realm.

Admiral Canaris was a “menshevik communist” who infiltrated the US government? Who knew? A google search cannot find the alleged Wilson quote anywhere but Dr. May’s other posts, though something similar does appear in the Rage Furby’s Why Coolidge Matters.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:27:26pm

re: #6 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Drooling insanity from Lubbock: This is the mainstream in that benighted realm.

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Admiral Canaris was a “menshevik communist” who infiltrated the US government? Who knew? A google search cannot find the alleged Wilson quote anywhere but Dr. May’s other posts, though something similar does appear in the Rage Furby’s Why Coolidge Matters.

These loons always write like the label on a Dr. Bronner’s Soap bottle.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:27:27pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:31:04pm

re: #6 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Drooling insanity from Lubbock: This is the mainstream in that benighted realm.

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Admiral Canaris was a “menshevik communist” who infiltrated the US government? Who knew? A google search cannot find the alleged Wilson quote anywhere but Dr. May’s other posts, though something similar does appear in the Rage Furby’s Why Coolidge Matters.

I’m no fan of Wilson but that quote isn’t that absurd considering states write new Constitutions s the time. As for the other crap, whoa take your meds.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:31:55pm

re: #6 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Drooling insanity from Lubbock: This is the mainstream in that benighted realm.

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Admiral Canaris was a “menshevik communist” who infiltrated the US government? Who knew? A google search cannot find the alleged Wilson quote anywhere but Dr. May’s other posts, though something similar does appear in the Rage Furby’s Why Coolidge Matters.

It’s more incoherent babbling from the RepubliKKKlan TexAssHoles!

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:35:08pm

This is what I did today. Still in a wheelchair.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:35:54pm

re: #11 The Vicious Babushka

This is what I did today. Still in a wheelchair.

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Oh my! Looks so dee-lish!!!!!

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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:41:11pm

re: #11 The Vicious Babushka

This is what I did today. Still in a wheelchair.

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incredible. hopefully you’re getting help getting things out of the oven at least?

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Birth Control Works  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:44:02pm
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Nyet  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:44:08pm

Far-left libertarian who retweets neo-Nazis and/or Holocaust deniers? LOL.

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TedStriker  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:44:37pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

These loons always write like the label on a Dr. Bronner’s Soap bottle.

Dr. Bronner, though a bit ‘touched’, wasn’t evil; he made (and his successors still make) damn good camping/backpacking soap.

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Nyet  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:45:19pm

re: #15 Nyet

BTW, our little Nazi sympathizer has retweeted VDare’s anti-DACA tweet.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:45:20pm

re: #11 The Vicious Babushka

This is what I did today. Still in a wheelchair.

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re: #12 Joe Bacon 🌹

This is becoming abusive.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:45:39pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Didn’t Twitchy attack a young sick boy who was featured in a healthcare policy during the Bush years? I can’t remember the specifics but recall that his address was doxed which led to harassment. Malkin is one to speak about harassing children. dailykos.com

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:46:23pm

re: #15 Nyet

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Far-left libertarian who retweets neo-Nazis and/or Holocaust deniers? LOL.

‘Round-the-bend.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:46:59pm

GOP about to pass secret health care bill while they think no one’s paying attention

The so-called Cassidy-Graham bill is, like all the other Republican attempts at repeal, a disaster. Except that this is particularly extreme, despite the bills’s sponsors disingenuously insisting it’s a “compromise.” It would eliminate Medicaid expansion entirely, as well as insurance subsidies, both of which have expanded health care access to millions of Americans who could not otherwise afford it.

That’s not all. Under this new plan, insurance companies would be allowed to discriminate against pre-existing conditions — something Obamacare prohibits. Because while Republicans don’t think Americans have a right to health care, they believe insurance companies have a right to gouge sick people.

???

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jaunte  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:47:10pm

re: #6 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Is The Title Page Style A Sovereign Citizen Thing?

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jaunte  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:47:49pm

Mensheviks Stymied By Freedom Caps!

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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:48:39pm

re: #19 Patricia Kayden

Didn’t Twitchy attack a young sick boy who was featured in a healthcare policy during the Bush years? I can’t remember the specifics but recall that his address was doxed which led to harassment. Malkin is one to speak about harassing children. dailykos.com

The only kids that wingnuts like are the ones who will mow your lawn for free and Ben Shapiro.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:49:03pm

re: #19 Patricia Kayden

Didn’t Twitchy attack a young sick boy who was featured in a healthcare policy during the Bush years? I can’t remember the specifics but recall that his address was doxed which led to harassment. Malkin is one to speak about harassing children. dailykos.com

It was a kid who spoke at a Democratic press conference in support of SCHIP (Medicaid for kids) expansion.

Supposedly the family had granite/marble countertops which showed they dirty welfare queens or somesuch.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:49:36pm

re: #25 Birth Control Works

Hal Holbrook ending 63-year run as Mark Twain

Quitter

//

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Birth Control Works  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:49:57pm

re: #11 The Vicious Babushka

wait, you are in a wheelchair?

how did I miss that?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:51:01pm

re: #27 b.d. (bill d.)

Quitter

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Yeah. I mean, Twain himself managed to do it for 11 more years!

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Birth Control Works  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:53:06pm
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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:53:20pm

lol, Charles can I buy you a ticket?

I’d go but that is the night that I am going to put burning hot corn on the cob holders in my eyeballs.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:53:38pm

re: #21 Birth Control Works

GOP about to pass secret health care bill while they think no one’s paying attention

???

So McCain is going to go along with this? This takes the US back beyond just repealing the ACA to destroying Medicare and Social Security.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:54:14pm

re: #25 Birth Control Works

Hal Holbrook ending 63-year run as Mark Twain

That’s longer than Mark Twain ran as Mark Twain.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:54:35pm

re: #22 jaunte

Is The Title Page Style A Sovereign Citizen Thing?

I think so. As with much of sovcit, it is rooted in vintage Bircher propaganda.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:54:45pm

re: #29 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah. I mean, Twain himself managed to do it for 11 more years!

Nope. He didn’t start until 1863.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:56:49pm

re: #35 Decatur Deb

Nope. He didn’t start until 1863.

Yeah, yeah.

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TedStriker  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:57:38pm

re: #35 Decatur Deb

Nope. He didn’t start until 1863.

Holbrook was Twain much longer than Clemons was Twain.

I think this means that Holbrook won?

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:57:53pm

re: #26 Timothy Watson

“Supposedly the family had granite/marble countertops which showed they dirty welfare queens or somesuch.”

The old “Gore has a big house and air conditioning so Global Warming is a hoax” nonsense. Rightwing logic for you.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:58:49pm

re: #37 TedStriker

Holbrook was Twain much longer than Clemons was Twain.

I think this means that Holbrook won?

We need Twain term limits.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2017 • 3:59:31pm

re: #37 TedStriker

Holbrook was Twain much longer than Clemons was Twain.

I think this means that Holbrook won?

Clemons had the better moustache.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:00:54pm

re: #32 Patricia Kayden

So McCain is going to go along with this? This takes the US back beyond just repealing the ACA to destroying Medicare and Social Security.

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Fuck, that thing is a right wing Christmas list!

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:01:19pm

re: #39 b.d. (bill d.)

We need Twain term limits.

They overlapped—could have been a problem.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:02:02pm

re: #40 Decatur Deb

Clemons had the better moustache.

Though they were never seen in each others’ presence, because, as they say, Never the Twain shall meet.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:02:29pm

re: #40 Decatur Deb

Clemons had the better moustache.

[back to school]

Diane: Whoever *did* write this doesn’t know the first thing about Kurt Vonnegut!

[/back to school]

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:02:40pm

re: #41 Eclectic Cyborg

Fuck, that thing is a right wing Christmas list!

You expected a dreidle, maybe?

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Stanley Sea  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:03:13pm

re: #18 Decatur Deb

This is becoming abusive.

I’m following a guy who’s making clam chowder.

I love Sunday.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:03:21pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:03:37pm

re: #28 Birth Control Works

wait, you are in a wheelchair?

how did I miss that?

Arthritis surgery.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:03:51pm
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BigPapa  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:05:34pm

re: #25 Birth Control Works

Hal Holbrook ending 63-year run as Mark Twain

Too much avocado toast.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:05:59pm

A Booming Church and Its Complicated, Ugly Past
Zarephath Christian Church is a dynamic evangelical
congregation. But perhaps it’s best not to mention
the sect’s fiery founder who embraced the K.K.K.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:06:00pm
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Birth Control Works  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:06:11pm

re: #49 The Vicious Babushka

Arthritis surgery.

AH!

feel better!

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Birth Control Works  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:06:57pm

bbl

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Stanley Sea  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:10:30pm

Guess I missed this little tidbit

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sagehen  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:11:50pm

re: #11 The Vicious Babushka

This is what I did today. Still in a wheelchair.

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I wish you were my mother.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:13:23pm

re: #52 Birth Control Works

A Booming Church and Its Complicated, Ugly Past
Zarephath Christian Church is a dynamic evangelical
congregation. But perhaps it’s best not to mention
the sect’s fiery founder who embraced the K.K.K.

Bishop White described her church’s guiding principles as “emancipation for women and ultra-fundamentalist doctrine.”

Could spend a few Sunday School mornings sorting that one out.

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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:13:24pm

re: #32 Patricia Kayden

So McCain is going to go along with this? This takes the US back beyond just repealing the ACA to destroying Medicare and Social Security.

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He’s being bought off. Graham-Cassidy plays three card monte with the Medicaid expansion funding, stripping it from blue states and giving it as “block grants” to red states. And Arizona’s cut of the take in the final bill magically went up after he said he was supportive of the “concept” of the bill but wasn’t yet supporting the bill itself.

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sagehen  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:13:33pm

re: #24 b.d. (bill d.)

The only kids that wingnuts like are the ones who will mow your lawn for free and Ben Shapiro haven’t been born yet.

FTFY

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Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:15:19pm

re: #56 Stanley Sea

If that’s true, she probably needs to see a doctor.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:15:26pm

re: #57 sagehen

I wish you were my mother.

There’s a waiting list.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:16:13pm

Olivia Nuzzi is an idiot.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:17:12pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

If that’s true, she probably needs to see a doctor.

This is horrible, but I spy on a couple of friend’s young adult children on twitter. No one knows (at least that’s what I believe)

The shit they say. THE SHIT THEY SAY.

Nothing yet worth reporting, but I’m aghast & thankful I don’t have kids.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:19:09pm

re: #52 Birth Control Works

“She republished edited versions of her pro-Klan books in 1943, three years before her death, with introductions by her son, the Rev. Arthur K. White, who would lead the denomination until the early 1980s.

The following decades were overall a period of decline for Pillar of Fire in America, though some of its overseas mission churches — in Liberia, for example — flourished.”

Odd that a church which championed the Klan went overseas and baptized Black believers.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:20:54pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

If that’s true, she probably needs to see a doctor.

Pretty sure the money quote came from a blues song—though the singer didn’t recognize it.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:21:28pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

Trump: Does something awful.

Sensible Person: That’s awful and Trump needs to be called out.

Useful Idiot: Criticizing Trump is why Trump is in office so shut up and stop criticizing Trump.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:21:30pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

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sagehen  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:21:40pm

re: #65 Patricia Kayden

“She republished edited versions of her pro-Klan books in 1943, three years before her death, with introductions by her son, the Rev. Arthur K. White, who would lead the denomination until the early 1980s.

The following decades were overall a period of decline for Pillar of Fire in America, though some of its overseas mission churches — in Liberia, for example — flourished.”

Odd that a church which championed the Klan went overseas and baptized Black believers.

Liberia was settled by emancipated slaves who didn’t want to stay in the States anymore. That’s a klansman’s favorite kind of black people.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:21:44pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

Olivia Nuzzi is an idiot.

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I’m so sick of hearing when you criticize Trump, “This is why Trump won.”

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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:23:31pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

Olivia Nuzzi is an idiot.

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Oddly enough, morons like Olivia also said Kathy Griffin’s antics would also lead to Trump getting reelected. I’m curious what they think will defeat him, but apparently it’s not expecting him to act like a decent human being.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:24:08pm

re: #56 Stanley Sea

Evangelicals should be so proud of their vote for Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:24:28pm

re: #71 Targetpractice

Oddly enough, morons like Olivia also said Kathy Griffin’s antics would also lead to Trump getting reelected. I’m curious what they think will defeat him, but apparently it’s not expecting him to act like a decent human being.

They just want to enable him.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:25:28pm

re: #72 Patricia Kayden

Evangelicals should be so proud of their vote for Trump.

Oh they are. They got Gorsuch. They have an administration that pushes their bullshit. It doesn’t matter to them Trump’s loyalty is to Putin and he’s an amoral asshole.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:27:00pm

The FDA says ecstasy is a ‘breakthrough’ drug for PTSD patients

surprise surprise —as, this has been known since the ‘70’s

While not finding his own experiences with MDMA particularly powerful,[125][127] Shulgin was impressed with the drug’s disinhibiting effects and thought it could be useful in therapy.[127] Believing MDMA allowed users to strip away habits and perceive the world clearly, Shulgin called the drug “window”.[125][128] Shulgin occasionally used MDMA for relaxation, referring to it as “my low-calorie martini”, and gave the drug to friends, researchers, and others who he thought could benefit from it.[125] One such person was Leo Zeff, a psychotherapist who had been known to use psychedelic substances in his practice. When he tried the drug in 1977, Zeff was impressed with the effects of MDMA and came out of his semi-retirement to promote its use in therapy. Over the following years, Zeff traveled around the US and occasionally to Europe, eventually training an estimated four thousand psychotherapists in the therapeutic use of MDMA.[127][129] Zeff named the drug “Adam”, believing it put users in a state of primordial innocence.[121]

Psychotherapists who used MDMA believed the drug eliminated the typical fear response and increased communication. Sessions were usually held in the home of the patient or the therapist. The role therapist was minimized in favor of patient self-discovery accompanied by MDMA induced feelings of empathy. Depression, substance abuse, relationship problems, premenstrual syndrome, and autism were among several psychiatric disorders MDMA assisted therapy was reported to treat.[123] According to psychiatrist George Greer, therapists who used MDMA in their practice were impressed by the results. Anecdotally, MDMA was said to greatly accelerate therapy.[127]

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Dave In Austin  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:28:02pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

Oh they are. They got Gorsuch. They have an administration that pushes their bullshit. It doesn’t matter to them Trump’s loyalty is to Putin and he’s an amoral asshole.

Gorsuch*. Sorry, had to fix it. Always the asterisk. Always.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:28:04pm

re: #66 Decatur Deb

Pretty sure the money quote came from a blues song—though the singer didn’t recognize it.

The Fugs version

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NSFWoSS

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jaunte  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:28:17pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:28:52pm

re: #76 Dave In Austin

Gorsuch*. Sorry, had to fix it. Always the asterisk. Always.

Yes. Sigh.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:29:13pm

re: #69 sagehen

Liberia was settled by emancipated slaves who didn’t want to stay in the States anymore. That’s a klansman’s favorite kind of black people.

Liberia was useless land sold by a local tribe (I can’t remember the specifics —I believe a British Lord) purchased the land for slaves emancipated by King George for fighting for England in the revolution. Some were also given useless land in Canada.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:29:29pm

Above song not safe for work or Sunday School.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:32:23pm

re: #77 Decatur Deb

The Fugs version

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:32:31pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

Oh they are. They got Gorsuch. They have an administration that pushes their bullshit. It doesn’t matter to them Trump’s loyalty is to Putin and he’s an amoral asshole.

Sad but true. They can miss me with their “moral majority” nonsense though. I don’t want to hear it.

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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:33:30pm

What we’re really seeing is a replay of the Nixon years, when Nixon became massively unpopular, so his few defenders resorted to arguing that attacks on him were in fact attacks on those who voted for him. Thus inspiring a backlash effect where people would vocally support and vote for Nixon simply to spite his critics.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:34:02pm

re: #80 Birth Control Works

To paraphrase Sagehen, Blacks getting useless land in faraway countries are the best kind of Blacks for White Supremacists.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:34:10pm

re: #82 The Vicious Babushka

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jaunte  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:36:53pm
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ObserverArt  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:38:08pm

re: #68 goddamnedfrank

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A little face time on TV and Olivia Nuzzi is getting a little full of herself.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:39:52pm

re: #87 jaunte

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Because no one ever went after Obama. Stupid idiots always enabling this fucking guy.

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jaunte  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:41:32pm

re: #89 HappyWarrior

They’re all “lighten up, pretend violence is just a joke” until Kathy Griffin comes along.

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Jay C  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:42:54pm

re: #84 Targetpractice

What we’re really seeing is a replay of the Nixon years, when Nixon became massively unpopular, so his few defenders resorted to arguing that attacks on him were in fact attacks on those who voted for him. Thus inspiring a backlash effect where people would vocally support and vote for Nixon simply to spite his critics.

Quite true: and easily confirmed by the contemporary media’s seeming obsession with micro-examining the “Trump voter” nationwide - while ignoring/dismissing anybody who might have voted “against Trump” - i.e., for Hillary Clinton: the “MSM’s” straw boogeywoman-of-the-Century -

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jaunte  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:43:42pm
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Birth Control Works  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:43:59pm

Wasn’t Nixon elected by an unprecedented majority?

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jaunte  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:45:28pm

Violence against women is practically part of the GOP platform.

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BigPapa  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:45:59pm

The Why Trump Won hot takes are trash. As if calling people makes people racist… it’s childish.

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jaunte  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:46:22pm

Also see the intense effort to defund Planned Parenthood, repeal the ACA, etc. etc.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:46:37pm

re: #93 Birth Control Works

Wasn’t Nixon elected by an unprecedented majority?

Yeah, but our boy was pure.

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ObserverArt  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:47:21pm

re: #93 Birth Control Works

Wasn’t Nixon elected by an unprecedented majority?

EC vote 520 Nixon - 17 McGovern

So yeah…I am not sure if that is the largest, but for modern times it was a stomping.

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jaunte  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:47:42pm

re: #95 BigPapa

The Why Trump Won hot takes are trash. As if calling people makes people racist… it’s childish.

If your reaction to being called racist is not “I’ll try to do better,” but “you ain’t seen nothin’ yet” you are indeed a racist.

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TedStriker  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:50:16pm

re: #94 jaunte

Violence against women is practically part of the GOP platform.

Yeah, someone posted that story within the past couple of weeks; the fucking asshole seemed pretty fucking unrepentant about the whole deal and seemed more annoyed that people found him out (he’s going by his mom’s maiden name, giving some bullshit about a falling-out with his dad as the reason why).

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Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:50:33pm
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jaunte  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:53:06pm
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Birth Control Works  Sep 17, 2017 • 4:54:04pm

THis pic is so Sci Fi

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Jay C  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:02:57pm

re: #93 Birth Control Works

Wasn’t Nixon elected by an unprecedented majority?

Yep. But attributable to just ONE factor: The Vietnam War. By 1972, the war (and the “right” strategy for ending it) had become a millstone around the political neck of the whole country: Nixon’s “peace” strategy, i.e. graduated withdrawal, coupled with (insincere-on-both-sides) “diplomatic” disengagement had “worked” to the extent that Nixon could campaign as the “ended-the-war” genius candidate, while George McGovern was (irreparably) tarred as the “disloyal-peacenik-anti-American-commie-symp-Dirty-Fucking-Hippie” one.
Totally unfair, unrealistic and warped: but then, that’s American politics….

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Birth Control Works  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:04:46pm
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I cannot.  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:06:34pm

EVE is a weird and crazy game.

THOUSANDS of Eve Online players just got SCREWED OVER by ONE GUY!

EPIC COMMENT:

Yaldabaoth

I always had the feeling that EVE was made for crazy people and kept them from spilling out into the real world.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:09:05pm

On Amazon Prime under the category of “Sci-Fi/Fantasy” there is a majority of anime/cartoons and just bad movies.

I refuse to watch Sharknado 1, 2 or 3.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:09:55pm

Oh what a story! Must read it fellows.

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jaunte  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:14:52pm

“These days everybody loves streaming video, just ask Ted Cruz. But knock first. You don’t want to just walk in.” —Colbert

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Birth Control Works  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:17:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:18:08pm

re: #15 Nyet

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Far-left libertarian who retweets neo-Nazis and/or Holocaust deniers? LOL.

and then…

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Birth Control Works  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:21:33pm

re: #110 Stanley Sea

Oh what a story! Must read it fellows.

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excellent!

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Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:25:06pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:26:11pm

Well had my nose to the grindstone today. I had mentioned a video project I booked, today roughed out the production schedule etc. and the numbers are a little daunting at a glance.
For two videos that will come out a total of about eight minutes give or take…
10 Aerial shots
25 Ground shots, most of which call for 2 cameras and lighting. One camera on a monorail for constant movement. The other like a news cam or on a tripod.
Those ground shots happen at 12 different setups around the location.
3 camera people.
4 to 6 extras.
2 days of shooting total.

Good times.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:27:25pm
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nowherenorth2  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:27:26pm

re: #116 Unshaken Defiance

Nice.
Working weekend for me as well. Way different job, but that sounds awesome and amazing

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:30:01pm

re: #118 nowherenorth2

Your own thing or the regular job?

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Stanley Sea  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:31:18pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

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This shit is setting up a military coup. Think they are sitting back watching this happen?

A presidency demoted to a tv rating show.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:32:42pm

re: #120 Stanley Sea

Our very own Seven Days In May. Except the Generals at the Pentagon are the good guys this time. We hope.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:33:02pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

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Remember when Spicey lied to the American people while getting a check from them?

Wasn’t that a riot!

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Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:35:03pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:35:10pm

Sorry to be a drama llama, but this shit, every single day is not good.

We want an abnormal president! Welcome to the results.

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ObserverArt  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:36:42pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ✔ @Green_Footballs
They’re treating what Spicer did as some kind of hilarious reality show entertainment, when it was an attack on democracy itself. Ugh.
8:26 PM - Sep 17, 2017

They’re all bad actors Clarence. 2/10. Would not watch.

: )

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nowherenorth2  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:37:01pm

re: #119 Unshaken Defiance

Both. Writing for an extreme metal blog (personal interest)
Doing an assessment for the non-profit I work for. We work with troubled teens before during and after dss custody. The program I run works with probation and state custody children.
Been staring at my lap top all day due to my part time job of retail

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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:37:22pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

and then…

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He’s not a libertarian. He’s a fascist enabler.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:37:48pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

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JFC why.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:39:12pm

Watching Burns’ Vietnam, fascinating.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:39:23pm

re: #126 nowherenorth2

Both. Writing for an extreme metal blog (personal interest)
Doing an assessment for the non-profit I work for. We work with troubled teens before during and after dss custody. The program I run works with probation and state custody children.
Been staring at my lap top all day due to my part time job of retail

I’m deeply impressed. Turning kids around, well, my thanks for that service. I bet that’s hard work.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:41:21pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

Watching Burns’ Vietnam, fascinating.

ooooh, East Coast lucky!

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:41:49pm

re: #102 Charles Johnson

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Harwood is just admitting this now? Those of us who voted for the only qualified candidate figured that out long ago.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:42:44pm

re: #131 Stanley Sea

ooooh, East Coast lucky!

It’s quite good. Watching with my Dad who came of age during the war.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:42:58pm
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Dave In Austin  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:43:53pm

Why does he have a desk lamp on a table that’s outside in the sunshine and hydrazine of Intercontinental bliss?

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:46:24pm

re: #87 jaunte

The “endless attacks” by Colbert and Oliver are fair critiques of the most powerful man in America. Trump is not above criticism. Shame his supporters think otherwise despite what they put the Obamas through for eight years.

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TedStriker  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:47:10pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

Watching Burns’ Vietnam, fascinating.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:47:14pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:47:20pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

Watching Burns’ Vietnam, fascinating.

re: #133 HappyWarrior

It’s quite good. Watching with my Dad who came of age during the war.

Well, I don’t have a television set.

That said, even if I did, I would take a hard pass.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:50:26pm

Oh yeah, that’s gonna annoy someone. I would not be surprised if he tweeted his disapproval shortly.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:50:47pm

re: #133 HappyWarrior

It’s quite good. Watching with my Dad who came of age during the war.

My uncle is a veteran who is currently receiving VA disability for exposure to Agent Orange. He doesn’t talk about it at all. He only opened up to me once, and that was about his time as an Indiana State Police detective.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:51:40pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

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Yeah I remember you showing some of his tweets when he worked at the RNC. He’s a dick.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:52:10pm

re: #141 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My uncle is a veteran who is currently receiving VA disability for exposure to Agent Orange. He doesn’t talk about it at all. He only opened up to me once, and that was about his time as an Indiana State Police detective.

My grandfather was the same about his Korean War service.

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nowherenorth2  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:52:23pm

re: #130 Unshaken Defiance

It has its days of awesomeness. And days of sadness.
The area I am in, st. Lawrence county of ny, is economically depressed. Has been hit hard by the opioid crisis, and is the poorest and least populous county while being the largest.
Ive seen it all. And I love the job. But man. There are days. Thank you

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:53:19pm

re: #143 HappyWarrior

My grandfather was the same about his Korean War service.

As was mine about serving in England in WWII. He made it home, but I imagine a hell of a lot of his friends didn’t. He was a mechanic, so he had less of a chance of dying than the crews whose planes he had to repair if they made it back.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:53:19pm

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹

Well, I don’t have a television set.

That said, even if I did, I would take a hard pass.

#SAD

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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:53:33pm

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹

Well, I don’t have a television set.

That said, even if I did, I would take a hard pass.

It’s a very personal thing to you I know. It’s tragic because I think racism played a big role in why we sided with the French over Vietnamese.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:53:47pm

re: #141 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My uncle is a veteran who is currently receiving VA disability for exposure to Agent Orange. He doesn’t talk about it at all. He only opened up to me once, and that was about his time as an Indiana State Police detective.

Our town’s ex-mayor is a Vietnam veteran - he doesn’t talk about it either. Neither do my mother or step-father, both of whom are also Vietnam era veterans (though my mother didn’t go to Vietnam). My father of course can’t talk about it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:54:23pm

re: #145 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

As was mine about serving in England in WWII. He made it home, but I imagine a hell of a lot of his friends didn’t. He was a mechanic, so he had less of a chance of dying than the crews whose planes he had to repair if they made it back.

Grandpa was in the artillery. He told me when he got home, it was the happiest moment of his life.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:54:24pm

Are they trying to blow up Sunday Nite TV? HeyZeus Crisco…..

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:54:54pm

re: #148 Anymouse 🌹

Our town’s ex-mayor is a Vietnam veteran - he doesn’t talk about it either. Neither do my mother or step-father, both of whom are also Vietnam era veterans (though my mother didn’t go to Vietnam). My father of course can’t talk about it.

I only learned he was a Vietnam vet when I overheard my aunt talking to the rest of the family about my uncle going to the VA for diabetes treatments and the words “Agent Orange” were mentioned. I’m not a professional historian, but even I know what that means.

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bratwurst  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:55:57pm

Channel that is STILL mocking Obama and Hillary Clinton is having a bad night.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:56:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:56:26pm

Grandpa was also happy when Truman fired MacArthur.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:56:39pm

I’ll just read the Wonkette executive summary of the war, where they wonder why the LBJ video of him ordering pants is not included.

Ken Burns Loves the Smell of Napalm in the Morning

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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:57:23pm

re: #152 bratwurst

Channel that is STILL mocking Obama and Hillary Clinton is having a bad night.

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OFFS, your network literally just whined about Obama’s burger condiment choices.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:57:34pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 17, 2017 • 5:59:38pm

We have the documentary giant of our time presenting a view on Vietnam.

Regardless of your personal involvement, it will probably show things you never saw.

Imagining learning something beyond what you have ingrained.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:00:48pm

I suppose I will have to watch Ken Burns’s Vietnam. I am not looking forward to it though.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:01:21pm

Mre: #158 Stanley Sea

We have the documentary giant of our time presenting a view on Vietnam.

Regardless of your personal involvement, it will probably show things you never saw.

Imagining learning something beyond what you have ingrained.

It’s helping me understand the history of the nation itself. Didn’t know the French only got there in 1858. Thought it was earlier like Brit involvement in India.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:02:20pm

re: #160 HappyWarrior

M

It’s helping me understand the history of the nation itself. Didn’t know the French only got there in 1858. Thought it was earlier like Brit involvement in India.

The French got a bit of a late start on the Far East. Something to do with that pesky revolution. That, and getting dominated by the British and Spanish at sea for a generation.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:02:57pm

re: #161 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The French got a bit of a late start on the Far East. Something to do with that pesky revolution. That, and getting dominated by the British and Spanish at sea for a generation.

Right, that does make sense.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:03:59pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:05:20pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

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Soledad is great.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:05:31pm

re: #159 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I suppose I will have to watch Ken Burns’s Vietnam. I am not looking forward to it though.

I’ll probably watch, but I’m not looking forward to it either. Several of my high school friends died in that pointless war.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:07:10pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

I’ll probably watch, but I’m not looking forward to it either. Several of my high school friends died in that pointless war.

Damn I’m sorry Charles. Had no idea.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:07:16pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

I’ll probably watch, but I’m not looking forward to it either. Several of my high school friends died in that pointless war.

Even if I wanted to watch it, someone would need to send me a television set and a cable company.

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I cannot.  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:07:25pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:07:26pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

I see it as the same category of things like the 9/11 museum. For some people, it’s too raw and painful. For others, it’s a way to learn about and connect with a past they were more separated from.

I have no interest in going to the museum but that doesn’t mean I’m going to tell other people they shouldn’t bother.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:08:08pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

I’ll probably watch, but I’m not looking forward to it either. Several of my high school friends died in that pointless war.

Several of my high school friends never came home either.
And the ones that did…welp…

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:09:16pm

re: #98 ObserverArt

EC vote 520 Nixon - 17 McGovern

So yeah…I am not sure if that is the largest, but for modern times it was a stomping.

All courtesy of McGovern, who was a decent man but a terrible candidate, winning the Democratic nomination. If Edmund Muskie, who was driven from the race by Republican dirty tricks, had been the Democratic nominee, the results would have been far different. Nixon probably still would have won but the race would have been much closer.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:09:32pm

re: #168 I cannot.

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It seems it was pretty tame too.

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Bass Reeves  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:10:11pm

re: #108 I cannot.

I started reading about this, and I would REALLY like to meet the guy who flipped The Judge. I want to know what he does for a living.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:10:28pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

I’ll probably watch, but I’m not looking forward to it either. Several of my high school friends died in that pointless war.

We have to watch.

Because of the personal pain.

We were never fully aware of the whole scope. Now’s our chance.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:10:52pm

re: #169 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I see it as the same category of things like the 9/11 museum. For some people, it’s too raw and painful. For others, it’s a way to learn about and connect with a past they were more separated from.

I have no interest in going to the museum but that doesn’t mean I’m going to tell other people they shouldn’t bother.

Similar also to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. I have been there, but I know a whole bunch of people who don’t ever want to (including my sister).

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:11:33pm

re: #168 I cannot.

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And Fox News expected Colbert to do otherwise because …?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:11:37pm

re: #175 Anymouse 🌹

Similar also to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. I have been there, but I know a whole bunch of people who don’t ever want to (including my sister).

I’ve been there as well. I didn’t realize, at the time, I was probably reading the names of my uncle’s friends. Odds are he probably came home less a couple (or more) of his buddies.

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jaunte  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:11:41pm
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wheat-dogg  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:12:00pm

More Trump-fan fail.

It’s a Canadian train.

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I cannot.  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:13:23pm

re: #173 Bass Reeves

He has a very particular set of skills, skills he has acquired over a very long career…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:13:48pm

re: #177 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’ve been there as well. I didn’t realize, at the time, I was probably reading the names of my uncle’s friends. Odds are he probably came home less a couple (or more) of his buddies.

Dad pointed out a high school acquaintance of his once when we were there. Afghanistan is feeling like another Vietnam. A complex nation that our policy makers don’t get.

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JordanRules  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:13:54pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:16:00pm

re: #182 JordanRules

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That’s different somehow.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:16:16pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:16:24pm

re: #181 HappyWarrior

Dad pointed out a high school acquaintance of his once when we were there. Afghanistan is feeling like another Vietnam. A complex nation that our policy makers don’t get.

It changes my perspective on war a little bit when I think of it like that. Names on a memorial are personal friends of family - or my personal friends, for Afghanistan and Iraq. I wonder how many of my high school classmates came home from the Iraqi desert draped in an American flag? I know a couple who came back intact, I could probably ask them if I gathered the courage.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:18:20pm
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FormerDirtDart  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:18:48pm

Fucking Republicans

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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:18:58pm

re: #185 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It changes my perspective on war a little bit when I think of it like that. Names on a memorial are personal friends of family - or my personal friends, for Afghanistan and Iraq. I wonder how many of my high school classmates came home from the Iraqi desert draped in an American flag? I know a couple who came back intact, I could probably ask them if I gathered the courage.

Saw the Menin Gate in Ypres. It’s a memorial to all those who were MIA in WWI. I got a photo of someone who shared a surname with one of my relatives.

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sagehen  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:19:18pm

re: #106 Jay C

Yep. But attributable to just ONE factor: The Vietnam War. By 1972, the war (and the “right” strategy for ending it) had become a millstone around the political neck of the whole country: Nixon’s “peace” strategy, i.e. graduated withdrawal, coupled with (insincere-on-both-sides) “diplomatic” disengagement had “worked” to the extent that Nixon could campaign as the “ended-the-war” genius candidate, while George McGovern was (irreparably) tarred as the “disloyal-peacenik-anti-American-commie-symp-Dirty-Fucking-Hippie” one.
Totally unfair, unrealistic and warped: but then, that’s American politics….

Uh… Nixon’s 1968 landslide also owes a lot to RFK’s assassination, MLK’s assassination and the ensuing riots in a dozen cities, the riots at DNC, weatherman bombs, etc

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:21:14pm

re: #188 HappyWarrior

Saw the Menin Gate in Ypres. It’s a memorial to all those who were MIA in WWI. I got a photo of someone who shared a surname with one of my relatives.

Saw one of my relatives on Ancestry (some distant cousin or such) whose date and place of death was December 1862, Fredericksburg, VA. That one hit a little too close to home.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:24:39pm
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Bass Reeves  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:24:43pm

re: #180 I cannot.

Read the Kotaku piece on it, and tell me that wouldn’t make a good movie.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:25:43pm

re: #185 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It changes my perspective on war a little bit when I think of it like that. Names on a memorial are personal friends of family - or my personal friends, for Afghanistan and Iraq. I wonder how many of my high school classmates came home from the Iraqi desert draped in an American flag? I know a couple who came back intact, I could probably ask them if I gathered the courage.

My father’s name on the Wall is surrounded by the P-3 crew he was with, as none of them survived.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:26:53pm

re: #190 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Saw one of my relatives on Ancestry (some distant cousin or such) whose date and place of death was December 1862, Fredericksburg, VA. That one hit a little too close to home.

As you and other lizards know, my cousin Mike is one of the six guys in the USMC Iwo Jima flag photo and who died in the battle by friendly fire no less. I saw the movie Flags of our Fathers in theaters with my grandparents including my grandfather who as I mentioned above was a Korean War vet. Eastwood’s had some weird moments the past years i.e. the Obama chair moment but he really painted a great picture of how this country can be to our war heroes. We’ll celebrate them in uniform and then really not really much care when they get home. Ira Hayes in particular suffered big time. I’m always wondering about the individual story when I see war graves whereever I go. We were shown the youngest British war dead in Belgium, a young man younger than my youngest brother and also told the story of two brothers who served together, one who died in service and whose remains were finally identified only a few years back. It was very moving for me since I had my brother with me.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:28:54pm

My Dad’s uncle was a chaplain during WWII. I’m not religious at all but no doubt that had to test his faith being the last face and voice many of those young men saw and heard. It’s no wonder to me that Uncle Bill struggled with alcoholism. I don’t know if he had a problem with alcohol before the war or not but I’m sure even if he did, the war accelerated it.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:31:35pm

re: #195 HappyWarrior

My Dad’s uncle was a chaplain during WWII. I’m not religious at all but no doubt that had to test his faith being the last face and voice many of those young men saw and heard. It’s no wonder to me that Uncle Bill struggled with alcoholism. I don’t know if he had a problem with alcohol before the war or not but I’m sure even if he did, the war accelerated it.

That’s what gets me about my uncle. He’s always been clean and strong - I mean, for God’s sake, the man came home and launched himself into a police career that included some really disgusting investigations, some of which apparently triggered episodes of PTSD. The man has fortitude I can only aspire to.

All this talk about war stories has me deeply moved. I’m not sure how I can explain this to Mrs. Fish, who has got to be wondering if there’s something wrong with me.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:32:28pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:32:38pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:33:40pm

re: #189 sagehen

Uh… Nixon’s 1968 landslide also owes a lot to RFK’s assassination, MLK’s assassination and the ensuing riots in a dozen cities, the riots at DNC, weatherman bombs, etc

1968 was an electoral vote “landslide” only because of the 3rd party vote. The actual number of votes separating Nixon and Humphrey was about half million. Without Wallace on the ballot, it is not clear how the 1968 election would have turned out. Of course, the Republicans subsequently became the party of Wallace.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:35:57pm

re: #179 wheat-dogg

More Trump-fan fail.

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It’s a Canadian train.

Should be Russian.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:38:36pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

I’ll probably watch, but I’m not looking forward to it either. Several of my high school friends died in that pointless war.

Same here. That’s the thing about great documentaries. It can be as bad as the Holocaust or the Killing Fields. But we should watch and try to learn. It hurts. With Ken Burns it’s likely growing pains.

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stpaulbear  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:46:01pm

re: #158 Stanley Sea

I’ve got the DVD on my Amazon and Barnes & Noble wish lists. I’m going to buy it.

I graduated from high school in 1972 so the draft was winding down when I came of age and the only people I knew who went were older brothers of friends of mine. I did have a draft card that I felt very conflicted about. I considered myself a pacifist but I never had to put it on the line over military service. I don’t know what I would have done.

I don’t have TV service at home but I really want to watch this PBS series.

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sagehen  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:58:10pm

re: #202 stpaulbear

I’ve got the DVD on my Amazon and Barnes & Noble wish lists. I’m going to buy it.

I graduated from high school in 1972 so the draft was winding down when I came of age and the only people I knew who went were older brothers of friends of mine. I did have a draft card that I felt very conflicted about. I considered myself a pacifist but I never had to put it on the line over military service. I don’t know what I would have done.

I don’t have TV service at home but I really want to watch this PBS series.

Do you have a reasonably fast internet connection? pbs.org will have it up within 12 hours.


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