Video: Donald Trump Embarrasses the US Again With an Insane War-Mongering Speech at the UN

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There’s a lot in this crazed speech to dislike and a lot to be disturbed by, but this was the most frightening part:

The United States has great strength and patience, but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea. Rocket Man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime. The United States is ready, willing and able, but hopefully this will not be necessary. That’s what the United Nations is all about; that’s what the United Nations is for. Let’s see how they do.

Yes, that’s the president of the United States threatening to kill 25 million people, in front of the UN General Assembly, and throwing his now-standard schoolyard taunt at Kim Jong-un.

Trump is creating an intolerable situation for North Korea. Kim Jong-un will react to this threat by working even harder to build a nuclear arsenal; it’s the only rational course for him to take. Trump has completely abandoned any attempt at diplomacy, and put us on a fast track to a war that will probably involve nuclear weapons.

Trump also directed a copious amount of threats and hard line rhetoric at Iran, because one war won’t be enough for this madman.

The Iran Deal was one of the worst and most one-sided transactions the United States has ever entered into. Frankly, that deal is an embarrassment to the United States, and I don’t think you’ve heard the last of it — believe me.

The real embarrassment to the United States was standing behind that podium in the General Assembly.

Here’s a complete transcript if you’d prefer to read it instead of watching this horrific man struggle to follow his teleprompter.

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342 comments

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Dr. Matt  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:29:44am

In brief, Trump is a fucking deranged madman:

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:33:57am

definitely about the stupidest speech ever given by an american president

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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:34:17am

As someone pointed out earlier - by signaling that he may pull out of the Iran deal, he’s also signaling to N. Korea that there’s no such thing as a deal with the Trump administration.

This is how you negotiate with masonry contractors in Queens. This is not how to conduct international diplomacy.

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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:34:37am
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Mike Lamb  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:34:43am

It’s truly disturbing how apparent it is that he wants to drop a nuke.

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petesh  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:34:58am

So McConnell is about to destroy the Senate, and Trump’s reaction is, hold my beer, I’m about to destroy the United Nations.

If I were a glue-sniffer, this is not the week I’d choose to quit.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:35:04am

Oliver Willis caught this brief example of slurred speech, and I suggest it deserves mention.

Either Trump could not pronounce the word “authoritarian,” does not know the word, could not read the word, or his tiny brain had a momentary Error 404.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:36:48am

been away for a while

anything going on? anything happen? did i miss anything?

ah, it seems not a thing

very well
im going back to my telephone-less, internet-less, tv-less, new-less house

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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:39:27am

re: #4 JordanRules

You need to STFU Prime Minister.

This didn’t age well asshole.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:39:58am
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gocart mozart  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:40:14am
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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:40:39am
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jaunte  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:41:20am
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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:41:33am
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SteelPH  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:41:44am

Good thing we didn’t elect that warmonger Hillary Clinton, huh?
//not enough in the world

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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:42:29am

re: #12 Charles Johnson

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Oh, for fuck’s sake, Katie.

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SteelPH  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:43:09am

re: #12 Charles Johnson

WTFITS?

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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:43:24am

re: #12 Charles Johnson

45: I know we can all jump off a cliff and great it will be because we win and garble garble.

Media: This is what his supporters were hoping for and the unsophisticated cadence belies a shift that allows the cliffs to become important again.

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CongoJack  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:43:56am

Story Time.

Sorry if there are any typos… did this fast on my lunch break.

2010-2012 while I was in college I was the senior intern for Senator Udall’s (D-CO) constituent services office in Greeley, CO. I did the normal things of taking calls, tallying info, sending data off to different agencies for support, and attending events on the Senator’s behalf and would write reports about the event etc.

A week before the Senator was coming back to visit different areas of Colorado (mostly north I-25 areas - Fort Collins, Loveland, Greeley, and a few areas in the Northeast of Colorado that I did not assist in) I get a phone call from what I perceive to be an older man (with a southern accent) saying, “I hear that Senator Udall is coming up our way (Holyoke, CO).”

I respond with - “yes sir - we are just making sure all the people in Colorado (urban/rural) can have the Senators ear and tell them how they feel about the issues of the day.”

The guy then states, “well, we don’t like you liberals out here, you sure he is going to be safe.”

I then start taking vigorous notes, take the phone ID information. Ask him for his name etc and get as much info as I can. I didn’t push what he said just wrote everything down that happened.

My boss comes in - tell him what happened and give my notes to him and I leave for class. I get back into the Senator’s office the next week and Capital police call us and my boss puts it on speaker phone. The Chief of Capital Police states that they know who this guy is. He is the freaking Sheriff of the county. Capital Police Chief asks if I am available - I say yes - and he asks me if I felt that the phone conversation was threatening. I state that it was not a direct threat but the tone etc made me believe it was not a “normal” call. I am asked if he notified himself as a Sheriff - no he did not.

Capital Police Chief tells me that this person should have known better has an officer of the law and that he and a few other agencies were going to contact him and let him know how ones talks to people and their elected officials correctly.

Didn’t hear anything about that issue again (though I did get 2 Certificates of Special Congressional Recognition out of it from the 112th Congress).

Side note: they had me actually walk through the meeting areas before hand to make sure there weren’t and suspicious things/people around (I had no training - but I’m sure they did it because I’m 6’5 and have been told I intimidate people w/o trying).

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:44:04am

re: #4 JordanRules

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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:44:37am

re: #20 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

May they both end up in jail!

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jaunte  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:44:40am

re: #17 SteelPH

“Look at the President masterfully reaching terminal velocity.”

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:44:52am

re: #12 Charles Johnson

What do her other tweets say?

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:45:41am

re: #22 jaunte

“Look at the President masterfully reaching terminal velocity.”

“Look at that liberal ground, impeding the momentum of our president.”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:45:57am

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:46:10am

re: #12 Charles Johnson

I read that as her stating how Trump voters would interpret the speech and not how she necessarily interprets it, but I could very well be wrong.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:46:59am

re: #12 Charles Johnson

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Fuck a bunch a Trump voters.

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jaunte  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:47:09am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:48:40am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:49:38am

re: #28 jaunte

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:49:59am

re: #28 jaunte

Which part of the ACA is socialism?

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Dr. Matt  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:50:03am

re: #28 jaunte

Lindsay Graham just said we must end any bipartisan talks & repeal the ACA in order to stop the march to socialism.

— Andy Slavitt (@ASlavitt) September 19, 2017

Linsey must have been promised something….

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SteelPH  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:50:46am

re: #31 Belafon

Which part of the ACA is socialism?

Not letting sick people die.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:51:07am

dammit

nhc.noaa.gov

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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:51:24am

re: #23 Belafon

What do her other tweets say?

She skipped #3 and went right to #4.

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Interesting Times  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:53:26am

re: #35 makeitstop

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:53:30am

re: #35 makeitstop

She skipped #3 and went right to #4.

Thanks. That leads me to believe she’s just stating what Trump supporters wanted. They were tired of a president that was accomplishing things through diplomacy and rewards. They want someone who will fail with bombs.

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jaunte  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:54:03am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:55:22am

re: #38 jaunte

Hold my beer….

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jaunte  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:55:30am
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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:55:43am

re: #26 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That is what she’s doing, no doubt.

At this point though, that is a given, it’s been done enough and it’s lazy as fuck. He just said we’d destroy a country of 23 milli. A journos analysis should rise to that occasion and reflect the reality of great leaps in normal UN and American political plays and all the risks it presents.

This is like the repetitive coverage of Yam supporters that ignores so much more, to the point of absurdity. What they aren’t saying, analyzing and covering is where the meat is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:56:14am

re: #38 jaunte

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What part of most people on Medicaid ALREADY HAVE JOBS don’t they get?
Or they are disabled or children.

Oh….wait…

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piratedan  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:56:24am

re: #35 makeitstop

I guess the part that Katy doesn’t seem to be able to grok is that if this political trajectory continues, she’ll end up being a comfort woman for the KKK, yet here she is talking about how this speech, regarding America’s willingness to go to war because our President feels slighted is somehow coherent foreign policy given breath by a man who shown an unmarked map, probably couldn’t even find North Korea.

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Interesting Times  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:57:06am

A weapon of mass destruction in its own right:

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:58:23am

re: #35 makeitstop

She skipped #3 and went right to #4.

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And in eight months, Trump has done more to tear down America’s standing on the world stage than Obama did to elevate it in 8 years. He’s actually beating Dubya’s record of 4 years for making America into a deranged bully.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:58:49am

re: #45 Targetpractice

And in eight months, Trump has done more to tear down America’s standing on the world stage than Obama did to elevate it in 8 years. He’s actually beating Dubya’s record of 4 years for making America into a deranged bully.

I can’t believe it’s not even been eight months. Sigh.

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:59:20am

re: #16 makeitstop

Oh, for fuck’s sake, Katie.

Hey, it is what America voted for…good or bad.

So, I guess she is saying we have to accept it.

I see one of her Tweets says we had 8 years of a measured response and America decided that wasn’t good enough so we have to take this approach.

No Katy, we do not.

I guess she glosses over how those same people that voted for Trump were the ones that threatened her on the campaign.

Something is missing in our younger ‘journalists’ these days. Like critical thinking and voicing what is right.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:00:05pm

re: #46 HappyWarrior

I can’t believe it’s not even been eight months. Sigh.

It’s eight months if you start from his slapping China across the face last December, before he’d even taken office.

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lawhawk  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:00:58pm

re: #3 makeitstop

As someone pointed out earlier - by signaling that he may pull out of the Iran deal, he’s also signaling to N. Korea that there’s no such thing as a deal with the Trump administration.

This is how you negotiate with masonry contractors in Queens. This is not how to conduct international diplomacy.

This is how you negotiate with masonry contractors when you want to end up in concrete boots.

Trump thinks that because he’s a real estate guy that everyone responds to his blustering BS the same way.

That’s not how it works in international relations. You make threats like that, you better be prepared to deal with the consequences when your rivals test you.

Jong Un has already tested Trump and found Trump wanting. Those red lines quickly were erased as North Korea has fired not only missiles across Japan’s bow, but has fired a nuke far larger than anything they’ve done in the past - by a wide margin.

Jong Un knows how to play crazy. Trump is crazy.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:01:16pm

If I have to hear one more goddamn thing about this is what Trump voters want in a leader. Okay, he’s also facing record low approval but while everyone’s bitching at Hillary for having the nerve to tell her side of the story, no one in the media wants to hear our side of the story because it’s easier to make a pathetic story about how Trump voters were “forced” into being that way by mean liberal elites.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:01:37pm

re: #48 Targetpractice

It’s eight months if you start from his slapping China across the face last December, before he’d even taken office.

It’s enough to make me want to smoke and I hate cigarettes.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:01:41pm
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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:01:42pm

Obama obsession versus fear of a Rocket Man cucking him. Vote now!

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jaunte  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:02:26pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is a Kill The Poor bill.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:02:39pm

re: #47 ObserverArt

Hey, it is what America voted for…good or bad.

So, I guess she is saying we have to accept it.

I see one of her Tweets says we had 8 years of a measured response and America decided that wasn’t good enough so we have to take this approach.

No Katy, we do not.

I guess she glosses over how those same people that voted for Trump were the ones that threatened her on the campaign.

Something is missing in our younger ‘journalists’ these days. Like critical thinking and voicing what is right.

If it’s this tweet you’re talking about

she didn’t say we had to accept it, she said that’s what they voted for.

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SteelPH  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:03:17pm

re: #50 HappyWarrior

It’s all about preserving “access” and avoiding the dreaded “liberal media” label.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:04:10pm

re: #35 makeitstop

The had eight years of diplomacy and measured words. They voted for the opposite in Trump. 4/

— Katy Tur

But Hillary would have started WWIII, etc.

/

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:04:28pm

re: #44 Interesting Times

A weapon of mass destruction in its own right:

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:05:07pm

Later Lizards. Maybe I’ll be back when done running errands.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:05:50pm

re: #51 HappyWarrior

It’s enough to make me want to smoke and I hate cigarettes.

You can always give yourself a horrible addiction to nicotine gum or patches.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:05:57pm

Horrifying

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:06:47pm

re: #52 Dave In Austin

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States rats. //

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:07:33pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:07:41pm

re: #47 ObserverArt

Hey, it is what America voted for…good or bad.

So, I guess she is saying we have to accept it.

I see one of her Tweets says we had 8 years of a measured response and America decided that wasn’t good enough so we have to take this approach.

No Katy, we do not.

I guess she glosses over how those same people that voted for Trump were the ones that threatened her on the campaign.

Something is missing in our younger ‘journalists’ these days. Like critical thinking and voicing what is right.

It is impossible to intelligently cover US political news while studiously ignoring the fact that the Republican party is a cancer on the nation.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:07:43pm

re: #61 Stanley Sea

Horrifying

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:08:02pm

re: #61 Stanley Sea

Horrifying

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:08:10pm

re: #49 lawhawk

This is how you negotiate with masonry contractors when you want to end up in concrete boots.

Trump thinks that because he’s a real estate guy that everyone responds to his blustering BS the same way.

That’s not how it works in international relations. You make threats like that, you better be prepared to deal with the consequences when your rivals test you.

Jong Un has already tested Trump and found Trump wanting. Those red lines quickly were erased as North Korea has fired not only missiles across Japan’s bow, but has fired a nuke far larger than anything they’ve done in the past - by a wide margin.

Jong Un knows how to play crazy. Trump is crazy.

Like I said the other day over Donny’s insistence that America will leave the Paris Agreement unless the other nations “make it more fair” for the US, the man still thinks he’s a CEO who can bully others into getting his way because he has the position of power. He has totally overestimated America’s power on the modern stage, thinking that it’s still 1955 and we can slap around anybody who won’t play by our rules. But the reality is that we’re a superpower in decline, the end of the Cold War revealing the rot and collapse in the foundations. The only reason we still receive as much respect as we do is because we have enough nuclear weapons to wipe out human civilization several times over. Without those, we’d be another regional power whose demands would be given as much consideration as Canada’s or Mexico’s.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:08:57pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

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He’s been doing that for years, whenever he gets prissy. Maybe the other scumbags were mimicking him.

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Kragar  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:09:09pm
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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:09:27pm

re: #61 Stanley Sea

Here Kelly is!

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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:09:35pm

re: #47 ObserverArt

Something is missing in our younger ‘journalists’ these days. Like critical thinking and voicing what is right.

It’s all about the access nowadays, bro.

This woman actually needed Secret Service protection to get to her car one night after a Trump speech. Maybe she’s afraid of getting called out again?

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Mike Lamb  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:10:25pm

re: #55 Belafon

If it’s this tweet you’re talking about

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she didn’t say we had to accept it, she said that’s what they voted for.

Ya, I don’t think she is approving of the speech in any way. I think she has the pulse of Trump supporters perfectly in terms of how they perceive the speech.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:12:03pm

Good thing about UN week - Christiane Amanpour is finally back on US CNN.

She’s so intelligent & knowledgeable.

I recall some old LGF Islamaphobe types accusing her of having a painting of the twin towers under attack in her apartment.

!! those days !!

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William Lewis  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:12:31pm

re: #69 Kragar

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There needs to be billboards across the nation with that on them.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:13:24pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

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I have noticed that he randomly switches from the “OK” (white power gang sign) to “Number One” to “Thumbs Up’ like it’s some kind of tic.

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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:13:38pm

re: #72 Mike Lamb

And it’s been the same story for the last year. We get it journos, you were right the first 15 times you made that analysis and figured out how his base perceives him. Now dig deeper and address what just happened and the unprecedented and unique risks it represents.

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jaunte  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:13:48pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:14:46pm

re: #66 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Being able to kill others at will seems to be the new frontier for the more malignant members of the US plutocracy. Their economic power can literally grow no larger, so their only path to greater exercise of power is determining the fates of other people.

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:14:47pm

re: #55 Belafon

If it’s this tweet you’re talking about

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she didn’t say we had to accept it, she said that’s what they voted for.

I know she didn’t say we had to accept. It is implied because that is how the voting went. Trump is our President because ‘they’ didn’t like the other approach.

She accepts it as ‘it is what it is.’

I do not.

Plus, we all know how the voting went. She didn’t even need to go there unless she wanted to emphasize we more or less have to take it.

Just my view.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:15:06pm

re: #47 ObserverArt

Hey, it is what America voted for…good or bad.

So, I guess she is saying we have to accept it.

I see one of her Tweets says we had 8 years of a measured response and America decided that wasn’t good enough so we have to take this approach.

No Katy, we do not.

I guess she glosses over how those same people that voted for Trump were the ones that threatened her on the campaign.

Something is missing in our younger ‘journalists’ these days. Like critical thinking and voicing what is right.

Charles Pierce has touched upon this again and again, the field of journalism had a major collective moment of shock in the wake of Nixon’s resignation. Instead of drawing lessons that the fourth estate is a major check on the political world, they decided that they had erred in tearing down a presidency. And that America’s confidence in its government had been so badly shaken that it could not suffer another “failed presidency.”

So they have gone forward since doing everything in their power to ensure that no Republican would again be torn down by their hands, no matter how corrupt or stupid he might be. They stayed their hand during Iran-Contra, they buried stories that could have ended Dubya’s chance for reelection, and now they are working like mad to find some way to present Trump’s presidency as “business as usual.”

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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:15:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:16:39pm

re: #81 makeitstop

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Cue the cries of Red Scare from GG and his dingbats.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:17:32pm

re: #4 JordanRules

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Isn’t Bibi in jail yet?

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:17:35pm

re: #70 JordanRules

Here Kelly is!

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You can just hear him quietly muttering “There was a script…why didn’t he just read the script?”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:18:13pm

Kelly should just resign and do whatever he can to bring this asshole down.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:18:33pm

re: #84 Targetpractice

You can just hear him quietly muttering “There was a script…why didn’t he just read the script?”

“I knew I shouldn’t have let Miller write that speech.”

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Kragar  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:19:30pm
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jaunte  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:19:52pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:20:18pm

This speech is exactly what it looks like, something created solely for domestic consumption and only by a select minority of the population. If he’d given it on the stump in Bumfuck, Alabama, it would have been met with huge applause by the inbred fucks who compromise his base.

But he gave it before the assembled peoples of the UN, who do not witness such speeches outside of those times they give the mic to tinpot dictators and pampered princes.

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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:20:19pm

re: #80 Targetpractice

Charles Pierce has touched upon this again and again, the field of journalism had a major collective moment of shock in the wake of Nixon’s resignation. Instead of drawing lessons that the fourth estate is a major check on the political world, they decided that they had erred in tearing down a presidency. And that America’s confidence in its government had been so badly shaken that it could not suffer another “failed presidency.”

So they have gone forward since doing everything in their power to ensure that no Republican would again be torn down by their hands, no matter how corrupt or stupid he might be. They stayed their hand during Iran-Contra, they buried stories that could have ended Dubya’s chance for reelection, and now they are working like mad to find some way to present Trump’s presidency as “business as usual.”

But the media will happily foster a “failed presidency” narrative vs. a Democrat. So it is not just a case of journalism not wanting to tear down a presidency. They specifically prop up Republicans and tear down Democrats. My assumption is that this is what the media ownership wants.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:21:11pm

re: #88 jaunte

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So Kochs are basically forcing the GOP to die on this hill.

FFS

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:21:22pm

re: #87 Kragar

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:21:37pm

re: #71 makeitstop

It’s all about the access nowadays, bro.

This woman actually needed Secret Service protection to get to her car one night after a Trump speech. Maybe she’s afraid of getting called out again?

I don’t want access to watch America dying in the hands of Trump.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:21:40pm

re: #90 EPR-radar

But the media will happily foster a “failed presidency” narrative vs. a Democrat. So it is not just a case of journalism not wanting to tear down a presidency. They specifically prop up Republicans and tear down Democrats. My assumption is that this is what the media ownership wants.

You got to remember who owns the media propaganda mills in America!

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:22:25pm

re: #31 Belafon

Which part of the ACA is socialism?

All of it. At least as far as the wingnuts are concerned.

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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:22:35pm

re: #91 Targetpractice

So Kochs are basically forcing the GOP to die on this hill.

FFS

It’s very optimistic to assume the GOP dies on this hill.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:23:14pm

re: #94 Joe Bacon 🌹

You got to remember who owns the media, propaganda mills in America!

Yet even that is not enough for the Trumpkin far-right. Even right-wing propaganda is too liberal for them.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:23:22pm

re: #32 Dr. Matt

Linsey must have been promised something….

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:23:50pm

re: #90 EPR-radar

But the media will happily foster a “failed presidency” narrative vs. a Democrat. So it is not just a case of journalism not wanting to tear down a presidency. They specifically prop up Republicans and tear down Democrats. My assumption is that this is what the media ownership wants.

There’s an easy answer to that: A desire to “balance the scales.” Bring down a Democrat and you can declare that “Both Sides” are just as corrupt and crooked.

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:24:35pm

re: #38 jaunte

My wife is in a fucking wheelchair! How is she supposed to work?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:24:49pm

re: #98 MsJ

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Citizens United was such an awful decision. I can’t disagree more with the ACLU’s interpretation on it. The implementation made by Roberts and the majority that money = speech is that some speech should be worth more than others. Not to mention it’s created political pimps like the Kochs and Mercers.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:25:20pm

re: #100 Romantic Heretic

My wife is in a fucking wheelchair! How is she supposed to work?

She’s obviously lazy. //

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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:25:50pm

Covering the early campaign: The Trump base supports him because of A, B and C

Covering the late campaign: The Trump base still supports him because of A, B and C. Some of D now too.

*Nothing has happened to change the dynamics. Not a damn thing. They have been reinforced.*

Covering the early Presidency: The Trump base still supports him because of A, B and C. Some of D now too.

*Nothing has happened to change the dynamics. Not a damn thing. They have been reinforced.*

Covering every week of the Presidency: The Trump base still supports him because of A, B and C. Some of D now too.

Puts the forced pivot pieces in perspective. That’s the lie you have to tell yourself to justify the above coverage over and over. Lazy and dangerous.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:26:10pm

re: #96 EPR-radar

It’s very optimistic to assume the GOP dies on this hill.

It was also optimistic to believe that “Skinny Repeal” would be defeated.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:28:05pm

re: #100 Romantic Heretic

My wife is in a fucking wheelchair! How is she supposed to work?

“She can just find a job where they let her sit down all day! My daddy worked in the coal mines with only one arm and he still brought home a paycheck!”

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:28:12pm

re: #96 EPR-radar

It’s very optimistic to assume the GOP dies on this hill.

It is we that will die on that hill.

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SteelPH  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:28:22pm

re: #100 Romantic Heretic

My wife is in a fucking wheelchair! How is she supposed to work?

Simple. According to the GOP, she has to die.
I wish I was kidding.

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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:31:06pm

re: #103 JordanRules

It’s also lazy to talk about the tr*mp/GOP base as thought they were dropped in the country from outer space. No, these infinitely reprogrammable meatheads are the product of decades of GOP propaganda designed to create exactly that.

All the GOP wants to do is cut taxes on the ultra-wealthy at everyone else’s expense. The only non-plutocrats that will vote in favor of garbage like this are resentment-fueled meatheads (i.e., the GOP base), which is why the GOP has engaged in said decades of propaganda to create as many meatheads as possible.

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sagehen  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:31:30pm

re: #67 Targetpractice

Like I said the other day over Donny’s insistence that America will leave the Paris Agreement unless the other nations “make it more fair” for the US,

Also proof of his thorough ignorance of all things.

It’s a non-binding agreement that we set our own goals and targets and decide for ourselves how or if to meet those goals. What on Earth could he possibly think would be more “fair” than that?!?!

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:32:22pm

Shittttttttt

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:32:30pm

re: #108 EPR-radar

It’s also lazy to talk about the tr*mp/GOP base as thought they were dropped in the country from outer space. No, these infinitely reprogrammable meatheads are the product of decades of GOP propaganda designed to create exactly that.

All the GOP wants to do is cut taxes on the ultra-wealthy at everyone else’s expense. The only non-plutocrats that will vote in favor of garbage like this are resentment-fueled meatheads (i.e., the GOP base), which is why the GOP has engaged in said decades of propaganda to create as many meatheads as possible.

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:32:34pm

re: #88 jaunte

Remember when this sort of thing was known as ‘bribery’?

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:34:19pm

re: #91 Targetpractice

So Kochs are basically forcing the GOP to die on this hill.

FFS

Good. Force them into a fight they can’t win.

Nicely done, Messrs. Koch.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:34:33pm

re: #97 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Yet even that is not enough for the Trumpkin far-right. Even right-wing propaganda is too liberal for them.

You got that right! Now the real hard core Trumpettes (Including members of my family) watch OANN instead of 19th Century Fox.

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:34:39pm

re: #104 Targetpractice

It was also optimistic to believe that “Skinny Repeal” would be defeated.

It was defeated.

This is another attempt because they must sense either people are now complacent or fatigue has set in over all the earlier fights.

And believe me I know we are dealing with dirty Republican tricks.

So in a way, being the opposite of optimistic plays right into that thinking.

I’m going to do whatever I can to make sure it doesn’t happen. At least trying makes me feel better than tossing my hands up with the no hope thing.

You can claim you were right all along after it gets passed if you want.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:34:48pm

re: #112 Romantic Heretic

Remember when this sort of thing was known as ‘bribery’?

According to Justice Kennedy, unless there is a photo of you and the other party where your faces are uncovered, a bag with an “$” and “Bribe” emblazoned on it, and a paper saying what the bribe is buying all in full view, then it doesn’t constitute bribery. It’s a “campaign donation.”

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:35:27pm

re: #110 Stanley Sea

Indeed. From Puebla, and a lot more on the thread.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:37:50pm

re: #117 A dark and stormy covfefe

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:37:54pm

The problem in a nutshell is that 35% of America is just plain stupid.

Oh, I’m sure some of them can do well enough on a standardized test, but they lack the simple ability to reason. I don’t know whether that’s because there’s something that doesn’t work in their brains, or they weren’t taught to do so, or simply find it easier not to. But it’s a real, serious problem.

And now, they’ve finally elected a President as stupid as they are, who’s dumb enough to say the stupid things they want to hear.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:38:54pm

re: #110 Stanley Sea

Holy hell! I know I’ve told the story of being in a 7.6 quake in Costa Rica, but:

I lived at the beach in a tiny rural community, so the threat of buildings collapsing was nil — I knew I could run outside and be safe. But one time several weeks after the big quake when we were still feeling aftershocks, I was in the nearest town of any size (Santa Cruz, maybe 10,000 people?) at a meat market. A big aftershock hit and everyone froze in place for a couple of seconds to see if it kept going. It was then that I was scared shitless because there was nowhere to go. Running into the street wouldn’t have mattered if buildings started to collapse, I’d have been buried no matter where I tried to go. THAT was when I really got scared.

I can’t even imagine being in a city the size of Mexico City during a big quake.

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lawhawk  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:39:06pm

re: #67 Targetpractice

Don’t think the situation is nearly as dire as that.

The US was in a bipolar Cold War, so the enemy was easy to spot - USSR.

Now, it’s unipolar verging on multipolar. By that, I mean the US is a hyperpower compared to other countries, but Trump’s going to dump all the historical alliances and strategic relationships enabling others to fill the void - China, Russia, India, etc. would fill it willingly.

None but China has the economic clout to rival the US at this point. None but Russia has the military clout.

China’s military is still lagging the US, but the US has been at war since 2001 and while spending is still up, the basics are starting to get thin - we’re seeing training fall by the wayside, and we get fatal ship collisions.

Trump doesn’t have a plan for any of this.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:39:17pm

re: #117 A dark and stormy covfefe

Indeed. From Puebla, and a lot more on the thread.

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This one collapses

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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:39:30pm

re: #116 Targetpractice

According to Justice Kennedy, unless there is a photo of you and the other party where your faces are uncovered, a bag with an “$” and “Bribe” emblazoned on it, and a paper saying what the bribe is buying all in full view, then it doesn’t constitute bribery. It’s a “campaign donation.”

That theory makes sense only when it is applied to small donations, since a few hundred bucks (for example) is, on its face, just not enough to buy anyone.

But with no donation limits, the ultra wealthy can easily come up with ‘donations’ that are self-evidently enough to buy politicians. For example, the Koch brothers’ latest attempt to give the entire Federal GOP its marching orders.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:40:14pm
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:40:20pm
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dangerman  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:40:24pm

re: #119 Blind Frog Belly White

The problem in a nutshell is that 35% of America is just plain stupid.

Oh, I’m sure some of them can do well enough on a standardized test, but they lack the simple ability to reason. I don’t know whether that’s because there’s something that doesn’t work in their brains, or they weren’t taught to do so, or simply find it easier not to. But it’s a real, serious problem.

And now, they’ve finally elected a President as stupid as they are, who’s dumb enough to say the stupid things they want to hear.

appx 95% of people believe they are of above average intelligence*

(they also believe they are above average drivers)

*i totally made up %. whatever the actual number is, it’s still true

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Skip Intro  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:41:39pm

re: #100 Romantic Heretic

My wife is in a fucking wheelchair! How is she supposed to work?

Can’t she sell pencils on a street corner?

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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:42:08pm

re: #126 dangerman

appx 95% of people believe they are of above average intelligence*

(they also believe they are above average drivers)

*i totally made up %. whatever the actual number is, it’s still true

One of the worst of these reality distortions is that many working stiffs see themselves as temporarily embarrassed masters of the universe, wealth wise, and vote accordingly.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:42:12pm

re: #124 Charles Johnson

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:42:33pm

….and when War does break out in Asia I’m sure all of Trump’s family members of eligible age will be front line and center waiting in line at the nearest Army Recruitment Office.

Ummm..more like, waiting for Trump’s shielding where they never have to worry about potential draft or if already in service deployment anywhere but stateside. Meanwhile 25 Million are in the immediate vicinity of Seoul, the biggest sitting duck in the history of artillery technology.

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danarchy  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:42:34pm

re: #100 Romantic Heretic

My wife is in a fucking wheelchair! How is she supposed to work?

No worries there, Medicaid work requirements have always applied only to able-bodied adults on Medicaid. Not sure how that is going to work out for a single mom with 3 kids on Medicaid though. Are they also going to cover her daycare costs?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:42:50pm

re: #100 Romantic Heretic

My wife is in a fucking wheelchair! How is she supposed to work?

According to these RepubliKKKlan assholes she can telework with a computer…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:43:09pm

re: #100 Romantic Heretic

My wife is in a fucking wheelchair! How is she supposed to work?

With her hands and mind? I expect there must be something else going on like chronic pain and mind-fogging meds.

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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:43:15pm

re: #129 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The GOP is a death cult, so it is only natural that a GOP president* have blatantly murderous tendencies.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:43:27pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

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I had a band director that held his hands that way when conducting. Us in the band called them the “flying assholes”.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:43:56pm

re: #132 Joe Bacon 🌹

According to these RepubliKKKlan assholes she can telework with a computer…

If her mind is sharp, she can. Being in a wheelchair does not make a person non-productive. To claim so is an insult to people in chairs.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:44:55pm

This is courtesy of “The Earthquake Guy” over at Reddit.

Magnitude: Currently sitting at a 7.1 by the USGS. This is a major earthquake for region

Depth: The depth is currently placed at 51km. Remember that this can change through further review, however typically the deeper the quake is, the softer the shaking.

Location: 5km East Northeast of Raboso, Mexico. This quake is very close to Puebla and Mexico City, making this a particularly dangerous earthquake due to the population density of the area.

Intensity of the Shaking: The USGS Shakemap currently shows Severe (VIII) shaking on the Mercalli intensity scale. This means that there is a high chance of moderate/heavy damage in and around the epicentre. Remember that as you move further away from the epicentre, the strength of the shaking decreases, however, it can still pose a risk to structures both manmade and natural.

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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:45:06pm

re: #117 A dark and stormy covfefe

Indeed. From Puebla, and a lot more on the thread.

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Man, that feed. It looks pretty bad. Hoping for minimal loss of life.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:45:45pm

re: #128 EPR-radar

One of the worst of these reality distortions is that many working stiffs see themselves as temporarily embarrassed masters of the universe, wealth wise, and vote accordingly.

Though we should also not overlook two things: 1) the entrenched belief that everyone who isn’t white is lazy and shiftless and will abuse any form of government assistance, and 2) a whole lot of the WWC hate the guy who went to college and came back home to become their supervisor, WAY more than they hate the rich guy who closes the factory.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:45:47pm

re: #89 Targetpractice

This speech is exactly what it looks like, something created solely for domestic consumption and only by a select minority of the population. If he’d given it on the stump in Bumfuck, Alabama, it would have been met with huge applause by the inbred fucks who compromise his base.

But he gave it before the assembled peoples of the UN, who do not witness such speeches outside of those times they give the mic to tinpot dictators and pampered princes.

Hope you enjoyed your visit to our fair city.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:46:01pm

re: #70 JordanRules

Here Kelly is!

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And the little thought bubble over his head should say, “Oh Jesus H. Fucking Christ!”

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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:46:25pm

re: #136 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

If her mind is sharp, she can. Being in a wheelchair does not make a person non-productive. To claim so is an insult to people in chairs.

The whole idea of work requirements for Medicaid is obscene.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:46:44pm

re: #123 EPR-radar

That theory makes sense only when it is applied to small donations, since a few hundred bucks (for example) is, on its face, just not enough to buy anyone.

But with no donation limits, the ultra wealthy can easily come up with ‘donations’ that are self-evidently enough to buy politicians. For example, the Koch brothers’ latest attempt to give the entire Federal GOP its marching orders.

its the same argument about “free markets” if all the players are relatively small and of more or less equal size, then markets operate fairly. when some are disproportionately large and can wield power or influence that can change arms length transactional behavior, then markets arent so “free” for everyone

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:46:46pm

Hey all you evangelical preachers that always talk about what God is saying and doing through his messages. You said God sent us Trump as a messenger and everything would be better now.

Care to explain the current messages from God what with all the hurricanes and earthquakes?

Trump is in office and all of these new messages seem pretty amped up and unprecedented.

I’m thinking your interpretations are wrong, wrong, wrong. Might be time to reconsider…or at least stop trying to act like you know what your God is saying.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:47:00pm

I just realized that this earthquake in Mexico City is 32 years to the day of the 1985 Mexico City quake.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:48:41pm

re: #142 EPR-radar

The whole idea of work requirements for Medicaid is obscene.

It’s all based on the assumption that anyone receiving Medicaid is either a Welfare Queen driving a Cadillac, or a Young Buck on street corners buying T-bone steaks with Food Stamps.

The crazy thing is, the Medicaid expansion largely went to WORKING PEOPLE!!!

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:48:50pm

re: #128 EPR-radar

One of the worst of these reality distortions is that many working stiffs see themselves as temporarily embarrassed masters of the universe, wealth wise, and vote accordingly.

yep the remotest possibility of becoming rich vs the reality of staying “poor or middle class” is a great motivator

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Dr. Matt  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:48:51pm

re: #145 Dr Lizardo

I just realized that this earthquake in Mexico City is 32 years to the day of the 1985 Mexico City quake.

Alex Jones should be chiming in….right….about….

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:48:52pm

Like I said before. At this point, who can really blame NK for accelerating their nuke research?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:50:34pm

re: #144 ObserverArt

Hey all you evangelical preachers that always talk about what God is saying and doing through his messages. You said God sent us Trump as a messenger and everything would be better now.

Care to explain the current messages from God what with all the hurricanes and earthquakes?

Trump is in office and all of these new messages seem pretty amped up and unprecedented.

I’m thinking your interpretations are wrong, wrong, wrong. Might be time to reconsider…or at least stop trying to act like you know what your God is saying.

Ah, you know what these Pulpit Pimps will do—BLAME HILLARY!

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Dr. Matt  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:51:20pm

re: #150 GlutenFreeJesus

Like I said before. At this point, who can really blame NK for accelerating their nuke research?

I think it’s highly likely that China has been giving them much of their tech over the last 8+ months. The rapidity of their program seems highly improbable without assistance.

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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:51:28pm

re: #148 dangerman

yep the remotest possibility of becoming rich vs the reality of staying “poor or middle class” is a great motivator

The GOP retirement plan:

1) Buy a lottery ticket once a week.

2) If you win a big jackpot, great!

3) If you don’t win a jackpot, eat a bullet just before you become completely destitute.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:51:52pm

re: #150 GlutenFreeJesus

Like I said before. At this point, who can really blame NK for accelerating their nuke research?

There can be more than one nation with a Samson Option.

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gocart mozart  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:52:47pm

re: #20 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Kragar  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:53:04pm

re: #153 EPR-radar

I’ve asked my girls to keep a broom closet available for me someday

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lawhawk  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:53:40pm

re: #137 Dr Lizardo

What makes quakes in Mexico City so damaging is that the land that Mexico City rests upon is not bedrock, but land that is far more susceptible to motion and liquefaction/subsidence.

The damage is going to be pretty bad, but after the 1985 quake, Mexico instituted rigorous seismic building codes, and newer buildings should do better. It’s the older ones you have to worry about - as well as those buildings that are adjacent to older structures.

If you have buildings swaying at different frequencies due to their height/size, they could damage each other in the process.

Mexico’s going to need lots of help, and Trump is going to prattle on about building a fucking wall. There isn’t a shred of decency in him or his admin (or the GOP at large, because they elected this sociopath).

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:54:01pm

The best photo yet of this pure evil. Shot at the UN today. (Doug Mills/NYT)

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danarchy  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:54:38pm

re: #155 gocart mozart

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COMMIE!!!!

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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:54:53pm

re: #152 Dr. Matt

I think it’s highly likely that China has been giving them much of their tech over the last 8+ months. The rapidity of their program seems highly improbable without assistance.

IMO competent US diplomacy regarding North Korea would involve zero bluster with North Korea itself. I’d just want to go around to the entire rest of the world propagating the idea that, since NK is China’s client state, China should be held jointly responsible with NK for any further NK outrages.

China is the only outside power with any real leverage in NK, and they can’t be allowed to continue with this second-hand provocation.

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Kragar  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:55:39pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:55:39pm

re: #120 Flying Squirrel Girl

1971 Sylmar, 1989 Loma Prieta and of course 1994 Northridge were all terrifying unforgettable experiences. Whittier Narrows and Landers were not so bad for me personally. Landers though was weird, really two the same day.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:56:35pm

re: #122 Stanley Sea

This one collapses.

re: #125 Dr Lizardo

Holy shit. Just…poof. Gone.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:56:59pm

re: #157 lawhawk

Yeah……..Mexico is indeed gonna need help but of course, Trump won’t do jack shit except Tweet some meaningless BS and maybe some vague hopeful-sounding noises (he’d probably have to be pushed to do that).

I hope this one isn’t as bad as the ‘85 quake - that one was horrific, leaving some 5,000 dead.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:57:07pm

I know people are inside.

Dog what a day

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:57:16pm

re: #160 EPR-radar

IMO competent US diplomacy regarding North Korea would involve zero bluster with North Korea itself. I’d just want to go around to the entire rest of the world propagating the idea that, since NK is China’s client state, China should be held jointly responsible with NK for any further NK outrages.

China is the only outside power with any real leverage in NK, and they can’t be allowed to continue with this second-hand provocation.

Hardball play- China is as responsible as NK in the event of a missile launch, and will be subject to direct nuclear retaliation.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:57:45pm

re: #158 Ace Rothstein

The best photo yet of this pure evil. Shot at the UN today. (Doug Mills/NYT)

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Addled

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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:57:50pm

re: #161 Kragar

President Trump is using campaign & RNC funds to pay Russia probe legal bills

Another charge to add to the docket. Spit.

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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:58:07pm

That don’t impress me much Lindsey!

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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:58:43pm

re: #166 Unshaken Defiance

Hardball play- China is as responsible as NK in the event of a missile launch, and will be subject to direct nuclear retaliation.

A clown like tr*mp won’t have the wit to think of that, or the gravitas needed to make it stick.

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:59:16pm

re: #157 lawhawk

What makes quakes in Mexico City so damaging is that the land that Mexico City rests upon is not bedrock, but land that is far more susceptible to motion and liquefaction/subsidence.

The damage is going to be pretty bad, but after the 1985 quake, Mexico instituted rigorous seismic building codes, and newer buildings should do better. It’s the older ones you have to worry about - as well as those buildings that are adjacent to older structures.

If you have buildings swaying at different frequencies due to their height/size, they could damage each other in the process.

Mexico’s going to need lots of help, and Trump is going to prattle on about building a fucking wall. There isn’t a shred of decency in him or his admin (or the GOP at large, because they elected this sociopath).

I really hate to be cynical…but Trump.

I have a feeling he may see something like Mexico City and Pueblo destroyed as a good thing business wise.

Unfortunately he may also see starting a war with N. Korea as good too. As Lindsey Graham said, it would be over there. Over there means S. Korea gets hammered and possibly destroyed too. Another good thing for American business interests.

Less competition and needs for American stuff from both.

Sorry about thinking like this. It bothers me, but again…Trump. It really seems sometimes these things really do get considered. And with Trump it would not surprise me at all. He is pure evil when it comes to power and profit.

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Weaselone  Sep 19, 2017 • 12:59:32pm

re: #169 JordanRules

I’ve got pocket lint, a five week old banana and a pair of soiled underwear.

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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:00:00pm

re: #169 JordanRules

Larry, Curly and Moe were not available?

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Decatur Deb  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:01:53pm

re: #171 ObserverArt

I really hate to be cynical…but Trump.

I have a feeling he may see something like Mexico City and Pueblo destroyed as a good thing business wise.

Unfortunately he may also see starting a war with N. Korea as good too. As Lindsey Graham said, it would be over there. Over there means S. Korea gets hammered and possibly destroyed too. Another good thing for American business interests.

Less competition and needs for American stuff from both.

Sorry about thinking like this. It bothers me, but again…Trump. It really seems sometimes these things really do get considered. And with Trump it would not surprise me at all. He is pure evil when it comes to power and profit.

Mexican architects got very good at quake-resistant building a couple generations ago. The problem will be older neighborhoods which might not have caught up.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:02:08pm

re: #169 JordanRules

That don’t impress me much Lindsey!

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But apparently no support from actual humans.

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:03:35pm

re: #166 Unshaken Defiance

Hardball play- China is as responsible as NK in the event of a missile launch, and will be subject to direct nuclear retaliation.

Well, shit. That is pretty damn bleak. Because we all know what the fuck that means.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:03:56pm

re: #161 Kragar

So the RNC needs Koch’s money because Trump’s draining all of theirs.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:05:28pm

re: #169 JordanRules

That don’t impress me much Lindsey!

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bratwurst  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:06:06pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:06:36pm

re: #176 ObserverArt

Well, shit. That is pretty damn bleak. Because we all know what the fuck that means.

Yep, WWIII, and the end of human civilization.
Too many nihilists are voting to destroy everything instead of staying home.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:07:20pm

re: #170 EPR-radar

A clown like tr*mp won’t have the wit to think of that, or the gravitas needed to make it stick.

My take is he is insane enough to make that grave mistake. China can put the destruction in mutually assured as they wish. Same as Russia. If we fight, most of us die and our nations are done.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:07:54pm

re: #179 bratwurst

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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:09:20pm
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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:09:21pm

I’m out…head is going to dark places and I don’t need that right now. Time to switch gears to something that gets my mind off healthcare, Trump, the world crumbling and total annihilation.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:09:27pm

re: #181 Unshaken Defiance

My take is he is insane enough to make that grave mistake. China can put the destruction in mutually assured as they wish. Same as Russia. If we fight, most of us die and our nations are done.

On the plus side, we don’t have to worry about anything cool happening after we die, so we miss it. We will have lived in the very best of times.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:09:32pm

re: #179 bratwurst

My healthy 12 year old, paying for his own insurance, will offset the surgery I will need for my Achilles tendonitis. //

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Decatur Deb  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:09:44pm

re: #181 Unshaken Defiance

My take is he is insane enough to make that grave mistake. China can put the destruction in mutually assured as they wish. Same as Russia. If we fight, most of us die and our nations are done.

I’m not saying we wouldn’t get our hair mussed. But I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops. Uh, depending on the breaks.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:10:02pm
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William Lewis  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:10:41pm

re: #180 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Yep, WWIII, and the end of human civilization.
Too many nihilists are voting to destroy everything instead of staying home.

Nah, too many lazy shits who won’t get off their asses on election day and instead voting to destroy everything.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:11:03pm
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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:11:05pm

re: #179 bratwurst

Trump adviser Moore on unfairness of the healthy subsidizing the sick: “people want insurance for their own families, not other peoples’ “

— John Harwood

Wingnuttia is a flat circle of zombie derp. It never stops.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:11:31pm

I just called and cried all over their voicemail. Called her the Honorable Senator. Begged her to vote No. My senators don’t matter, she does.

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lawhawk  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:13:08pm

By building a wall that Mexico pays for? /it’s impossible not to snark at this, because Trump is that bugnuts.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:13:37pm

re: #179 bratwurst

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Also totally ignorant of the entire point of insurance, which is to pool resources to pay claims. If all you want to do is put money away for yourself and your family to cover medical expenses, then keep it in the bank. But don’t be surprised when the money in that account doesn’t come close to just covering a hospital stay, let alone major surgery.

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lawhawk  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:13:54pm

re: #188 Joe Bacon 🌹

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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:14:02pm

re: #192 MsJ

Thank you! Calling now!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:14:50pm

re: #193 lawhawk

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By building a wall that Mexico pays for? /it’s impossible not to snark at this, because Trump is that bugnuts.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:16:05pm

re: #195 lawhawk

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:18:07pm

re: #199 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Makes you wonder how many Republicans used to have a twin sibling.

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:20:03pm

re: #192 MsJ

I just called and cried all over their voicemail. Called her the Honorable Senator. Begged her to vote No. My senators don’t matter, she does.

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I just called too. Thanks for the tweet note she is taking calls from outside her state.

I told her she shows better judgement and strength than my Senator Portman and I was counting on her displaying that once again along with Collins and hopefully McCain.

I also explained how the ACA and Gov. Kasich in Ohio has help me and others.

That puts me in a bit better mood and now it is a good time to log out.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:20:32pm

Liveblog here from Univision - it’s in Spanish, though.

univision.com

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:20:57pm

re: #198 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

A better way to say that is to say “You know God made us the most powerful nation on earth to take care of others. ‘God Bless’ is abdicating your responsibility.” But probably in 140 characters.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:21:34pm

These people are fucking unreal.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:24:15pm

re: #198 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:24:32pm

re: #203 Belafon

A better way to say that is to say “You know God made us the most powerful nation on earth to take care of others. ‘God Bless’ is abdicating your responsibility.” But probably in 140 characters.

I try not to promote superstition, and Trump isn’t really religious, so he can’t be manipulated like that.

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gocart mozart  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:24:55pm
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lawhawk  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:27:14pm

re: #198 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Just this morning I was commenting on the need for the UN to focus on disaster prep/relief/recovery….

That was in relation to the ongoing hurricane season and Maria that is currently tearing through the Caribbean, but it applies to earthquakes like the one that just struck Mexico.

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William Lewis  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:27:47pm

So here we have the Cassidy-Graham bill threatening millions of peoples health. Moving steadily to being passed. And what do I get in my email but a note from the DSA pimping that twit Sander’s pushing of his can’t possibly pass Medicare For All bill.

They need to be working to STOP Cassidy-Graham not giving a blowjob to a unicorn in the pretense that Sander’s garbage bill will pass.

But that’s more important to them than 32+ million people’s lives devastated, isn’t it?

Mike would turn his back on what his organization is these days.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:28:36pm

re: #208 lawhawk

Just this morning I was commenting on the need for the UN to focus on disaster prep/relief/recovery….

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That was in relation to the ongoing hurricane season and Maria that is currently tearing through the Caribbean, but it applies to earthquakes like the one that just struck Mexico.

Visions of Blue Helmets and white LandRovers in the streets of Houston.

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lawhawk  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:29:28pm

re: #210 Decatur Deb

Visions of Blue Helmets and white LandRovers in the streets of Houston.

JADE HELM!!!!!

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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:30:34pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:30:39pm

re: #193 lawhawk

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By building a wall that Mexico pays for? /it’s impossible not to snark at this, because Trump is that bugnuts.

Not to mention they basically told Mexico to fuck off on the Hurricane Harvey aid.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:30:53pm

re: #208 lawhawk

I was born in Los Angeles (no stranger to the ground shaking from time to time) and I lived in the Pacific Northwest for 20 years - the land of volcanoes and Magnitude 9 subduction zone earthquakes.

In the case of the PNW, it’s a matter of when, not if.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:32:20pm

re: #195 lawhawk

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They’re treating it like a bank account, where you only get out what you pay in, rather than insurance where everyone pays in because nobody can guarantee they won’t need it at some point.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:32:37pm

re: #212 makeitstop

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:32:48pm

re: #212 makeitstop

So he’s forcing the RNC and his Campaign to pay for his legal costs while at the same time keeping $107 million mostly meant for charity and this is the PRESIDENT of our country?

I fucking hate this so much.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:33:03pm

re: #215 Blind Frog Belly White

They’re treating it like a bank account, where you only get out what you pay in, rather than insurance where everyone pays in because nobody can guarantee they won’t need it at some point.

Greed-oriented personalities.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:33:28pm

re: #215 Blind Frog Belly White

They’re treating it like a bank account, where you only get out what you pay in, rather than insurance where everyone pays in because nobody can guarantee they won’t need it at some point.

These morons simply don’t - or won’t - understand how the concept of insurance works.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:33:56pm

re: #219 Dr Lizardo

These morons simply don’t - or won’t - understand how the concept of insurance works.

This times a MILLION.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:34:10pm

re: #206 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I try not to promote superstition, and Trump isn’t really religious, so he can’t be manipulated like that.

He’s not your audience.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:34:21pm

re: #212 makeitstop

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:34:35pm

re: #221 Belafon

He’s not your audience.

Really good point.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:35:11pm

re: #218 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Greed-oriented personalities.

Deeper than greed, though - it’s a deep-seated rejection of the whole idea of ‘society’, which, BTW, an Objectivist once told me “doesn’t exist”.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:37:19pm

re: #212 makeitstop

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:38:16pm

I’m in a wheelchair and I work from home, also while baking bread and pastry!!

Of course I had a job where telecommuting is possible, and the disability is temporary (we hope) so I am motivated.

If I was stuck in this fucking wheelchair forever, and unemployed, there is no way that anyone would hire me. So HURR HURR LET ALL THOSE LAZY DISABLED GO OUT & GET JERBZ!!!1!!! is just not happening.

Srsly what jobs are the disabled supposed to do? All the jobs that become available when the Mexicans are rounded up and deported? Like lawnmowing? That’s for the 11 year olds (for no pay)!

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:39:19pm

re: #131 danarchy

No worries there, Medicaid work requirements have always applied only to able-bodied adults on Medicaid. Not sure how that is going to work out for a single mom with 3 kids on Medicaid though. Are they also going to cover her daycare costs?

Of course not.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:41:25pm

re: #209 William Lewis

So here we have the Cassidy-Graham bill threatening millions of peoples health. Moving steadily to being passed. And what do I get in my email but a note from the DSA pimping that twit Sander’s pushing of his can’t possibly pass Medicare For All bill.

They need to be working to STOP Cassidy-Graham not giving a blowjob to a unicorn in the pretense that Sander’s garbage bill will pass.

But that’s more important to them than 32+ million people’s lives devastated, isn’t it?

Mike would turn his back on what his organization is these days.

The Bros are beating the drums for the impossible while the very possible is happening to total silence from them. Bernie waited until yesterday to come down from atop his ivory tower to declare that Cassidy-Graham was bad, something most of us figured out days ago. I will bet $20 that before the whole mess is over, there will be “progressives” arguing that C-G might actually be “good” because states like CA or NY could institute single-payer on their own.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:41:35pm

FB keeps ‘suggesting’ this post for some kind of dog harness, showing a pug straining at the leash, saying the collar “DAMAGES TRACHEA!!” and “CHOKES THEM!”.

But, you know, it’s not really THAT hard to train a dog not to pull on the leash, so if your dog is being choked by their collar, maybe there’s a cheaper solution. Like training.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:41:41pm

re: #227 The Vicious Babushka

I’m in a wheelchair and I work from home, also while baking bread and pastry!!

Of course I had a job where telecommuting is possible, and the disability is temporary (we hope) so I am motivated.

If I was stuck in this fucking wheelchair forever, and unemployed, there is no way that anyone would hire me. So HURR HURR LET ALL THOSE LAZY DISABLED GO OUT & GET JERBZ!!!1!!! is just not happening.

Srsly what jobs are the disabled supposed to do? All the jobs that become available when the Mexicans are rounded up and deported? Like lawnmowing? That’s for the 11 year olds (for no pay)!

Lawn-mowing wheelchairs! We have a Trumpist path forward.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:42:07pm

Livestream from Aristegui Noticias in Mexico here:

Transmisión especial: Sismo 19 de Septiembre

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Decatur Deb  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:43:12pm

re: #225 Blind Frog Belly White

Deeper than greed, though - it’s a deep-seated rejection of the whole idea of ‘society’, which, BTW, an Objectivist once told me “doesn’t exist”.

When you blow through all the left-right, liberal-conservative language structure we are left with those whose decisions are driven either by cooperation or competition. Some see the entire world through only one of those lenses.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:43:45pm

re: #229 Targetpractice

The Bros are beating the drums for the impossible while the very possible is happening to total silence from them. Bernie waited until yesterday to come down from atop his ivory tower to declare that Cassidy-Graham was bad, something most of us figured out days ago. I will bet $20 that before the whole mess is over, there will be “progressives” arguing that C-G might actually be “good” because states like CA or NY could institute single-payer on their own.

Conspiracy Theory: That’s what that LA Rep made his statement, to split Dems.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:43:47pm

re: #227 The Vicious Babushka

I’m in a wheelchair and I work from home, also while baking bread and pastry!!

Of course I had a job where telecommuting is possible, and the disability is temporary (we hope) so I am motivated.

If I was stuck in this fucking wheelchair forever, and unemployed, there is no way that anyone would hire me. So HURR HURR LET ALL THOSE LAZY DISABLED GO OUT & GET JERBZ!!!1!!! is just not happening.

Srsly what jobs are the disabled supposed to do? All the jobs that become available when the Mexicans are rounded up and deported? Like lawnmowing? That’s for the 11 year olds (for no pay)!

Just wait till they repeal the ADA, because Trump doesn’t want ramps on his ugly fucking buildings.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:44:46pm

I always see people commenting that Trump is stupid or dumb, and doesn’t understand what he’s doing. I have to disagree.

In a way Trump is an idiot savant — he’s not intelligent in the sense of being able to make logical connections or understand history or analyze patterns. But he’s extremely good at reading people to know how best to manipulate them. He has the same skills a sociopathic criminal or a con man has. It’s a sort of low cunning rather than what we think of as “intelligence,” but when someone is as good at it as Trump is, they’re very dangerous because they aren’t constrained by the normal human boundaries of empathy.

Everything Trump says and does is for one goal only: to benefit Trump, and secondarily his family. Although I suspect if push came to shove he’d toss his family overboard to save himself in a heartbeat.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:45:03pm

The case for and against cryptocurrencies

I’ve been making $2.50 in profit a day ($5 in income) leasing out my gaming hardware for others to mine cryptocurrencies using Nice Hash.

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bratwurst  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:51:07pm

re: #236 Charles Johnson

Everything Trump says and does is for one goal only: to benefit Trump, and secondarily his family. Although I suspect if push came to shove he’d toss his family overboard to save himself in a heartbeat.

Perhaps we shall find out vis-à-vis Don Junior!

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:51:08pm

Well, good night Lizards.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:52:41pm

re: #236 Charles Johnson

I’d say Trump is stupid and he doesn’t CARE what he’s doing, beyond benefits for himself and his family.

Thoroughly agree on the conman skillset, but a lot of it works because he’s such an entitled prick that he doesn’t have to play-act resentment, and resentment is the core of Trumpism, as it was of the Tea Party. And he doesn’t have to play-act the simplemindedness of his/their views on pretty much everything.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:53:16pm

re: #223 Single-handed sailor

Won’t be long before Trumpers say this is BLM blowing up St. Louis with car bombs.

………………… or MS-13 invading Nebraska.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:54:40pm

re: #241 GlutenFreeJesus

Won’t be long before Trumpers say this is BLM blowing up St. Louis with car bombs.

Next Gateway Pundit: Here is file photo showing BLM blowing up St.Louis.

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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:54:51pm

re: #240 Blind Frog Belly White

My take as well. Dumb and narcissistic conman who has honed his skills at conning (certain folks) for decades after learning it from pops.

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gocart mozart  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:55:41pm
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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:55:59pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:56:10pm

re: #243 JordanRules

My take as well. Dumb and narcissistic conman who has honed his skills at conning (certain folks) for decades after learning it from pops.

And unfortunately, there are enough people you can fool all of the time.

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danarchy  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:57:03pm

re: #231 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Lawn-mowing wheelchairs! We have a Trumpist path forward.

Aren’t those called riding mowers…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:59:10pm

re: #247 danarchy

Aren’t those called riding mowers…

The original Mobility Scooter. And not a Unitasker!

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2017 • 1:59:19pm

Anyway, I made another call to Rand Paul’s office to express my support for his opposition to “Obamacare lite.” No point in calling Mitch McConnell. The GOP still has an uphill battle to get that 50th vote they need. From a cold-blooded political point of view, if the GOP wrecks healthcare in this country that can only help the Democrats, but of course I don’t want to see the suffering that would bring.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:00:31pm

re: #242 Sir John Barron

Next Gateway Pundit: Here is file photo showing BLM blowing up St.Louis.

Let’s see if he falls for it. :)

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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:00:40pm

re: #246 Blind Frog Belly White

The marks in this case are aided by some systemic and structural stuff designed around and upholding the very worst of their beliefs, giving them more weight than they should have.

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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:01:48pm

re: #250 GlutenFreeJesus

Let’s see if he falls for it. :)

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Shoulda gone with MS-13, it would have made the Spanish more believable.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:04:08pm

re: #252 makeitstop

Shoulda gone with MS-13, it would have made the Spanish more believable.

Oh I know. I wanna know just how gullible he is. Next week I’ll say it was MS-13. ;)

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:05:58pm

A bit of good news. The Arizona Supreme Court applied Obergefell correctly in ruling that same sex married couples have the exact same right to be listed on their children’s birth certificates as opposite sex married couples.

slate.com

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gocart mozart  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:08:03pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:10:59pm

iOS 11 tweak I thought I’d share re: “dark mode” aka Smart Invert.

Simplest way to enable/disable is the settings tweak at the end of the article. Easy peasy. Good for late night browsing when you’re in the dark. With the shortcut, it’s enabled with 3 taps of the home button.

cnet.com

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:15:17pm

re: #236 Charles Johnson

I always see people commenting that Trump is stupid or dumb, and doesn’t understand what he’s doing. I have to disagree.

In a way Trump is an idiot savant — he’s not intelligent in the sense of being able to make logical connections or understand history or analyze patterns. But he’s extremely good at reading people to know how best to manipulate them. He has the same skills a sociopathic criminal or a con man has. It’s a sort of low cunning rather than what we think of as “intelligence,” but when someone is as good at it as Trump is, they’re very dangerous because they aren’t constrained by the normal human boundaries of empathy.

Everything Trump says and does is for one goal only: to benefit Trump, and secondarily his family. Although I suspect if push came to shove he’d toss his family overboard to save himself in a heartbeat.

if, unlike us, you are able to not notice the astonishing ignorance, the breathtaking falsehoods, and the painful immaturity, trump is a brilliant demogogic orator with excellent timimg, full of bold declarations, earthy humor, and home truths

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Decatur Deb  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:16:06pm

re: #257 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

A farmer, feeding slop to hogs.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:18:21pm

re: #256 GlutenFreeJesus

iOS 11 tweak I thought I’d share re: “dark mode” aka Smart Invert.

Simplest way to enable/disable is the settings tweak at the end of the article. Easy peasy. Good for late night browsing when you’re in the dark. With the shortcut, it’s enabled with 3 taps of the home button.

cnet.com

Some good tweaks to the new OS. Nothing major. I do like the editable screen shots and the file manager.

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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:18:30pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:18:31pm
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Mike Lamb  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:20:32pm

re: #179 bratwurst

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So just outlaw insurance you economically illiterate shitheels.

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Jay C  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:21:32pm

re: #258 Decatur Deb

A farmer, feeding slop to hogs.

Who are eating it up - oblivious to the rack of pork and bacon recipe-books in the farmer’s kitchen…..

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:22:18pm

re: #259 Dr. Matt

Some good tweaks to the new OS. Nothing major. I do like the editable screen shots and the file manager.

I like that you can bump the keyboard to the left or right in the messages app by tapping and holding on the globe button. Now if only the send button would move to the left when you choose left…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:22:22pm

re: #257 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

if, unlike us, you are able to not notice the astonishing ignorance, the breathtaking falsehoods, and the painful immaturity, trump is a brilliant demogogic orator with excellent timimg, full of bold declarations, earthy humor, and home truths

Feature, not bug.

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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:23:35pm

Just got email responses from 2 of my former coworkers who are calling Murkowski per the earlier message I sent about her office’s willingness to hear from anyone about this disaster bill!

Every voice helps!
Yes we can!

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Mike Lamb  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:23:35pm

re: #260 JordanRules

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And now they don’t know what parity means.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:24:23pm

Remember when the battle between the GOP and the Democrats used to be about how rapidly to expand the social safety net? And whether the best approach to Climate Change was a Carbon Tax, or Carbon Exchanges?

Good times.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:24:39pm

Mexico quake I figure.
Wild, around 15 secs in you see a building violently flexing from the quake.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:25:16pm

re: #267 Mike Lamb

And now they don’t know what parity means.

I think he meant he was trying to establish PARODY.

But like all Right wingers, he can’t do parody well.

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Jay C  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:27:30pm

re: #269 FormerDirtDart

Mexico quake I figure.
Wild, around 15 secs in you see a building violently flexing from the quake.

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I’m guessing that if it didn’t flex (designed to?) a lot more would have fallen off the building than one window and some bricks…..

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Dr. Matt  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:32:03pm

re: #264 GlutenFreeJesus

Interesting observation. If you take a screenshot while in dark/invert mode, the screenshot is not inverted and is in “normal” mode.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:33:14pm

re: #179 bratwurst

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And I want my tax dollars supporting families, not giving oil companies, that are making HUGE profits, subsidies.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:34:11pm
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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:36:31pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:39:05pm
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MsJ  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:40:49pm

re: #260 JordanRules

Really good thread and the replies, too.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:42:20pm

re: #260 JordanRules

He’s verifying that the red states, even Texas, are moochers.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:42:57pm

JFC.

Now that Obama’s gone they have to find a way to make up for the lost revenue.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:44:06pm

Deplorable right wingers celebrating the deaths of Mexicans in the earthquake, in the comment section of Breitbart.

breitbart.com

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:45:52pm

re: #279 Stanley Sea

JFC.

Now that Obama’s gone they have to find a way to make up for the lost revenue.

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I’m sure the Mexican government will be so thankful that he’s easing things for the cartels by letting them bypass the straw purchase stage.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:47:20pm

Glad to see the POTUS pivot today!

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:48:47pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:52:02pm

re: #283 goddamnedfrank

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Killing the ACA doesn’t pave the way for single-payer, because if there’s enough political will left to kill the ACA, then there’s nowhere near enough votes to make single-payer a reality. The reality that the last 8 years has shown is that a major of Americans don’t want insurance to go away, they just want government to make it cheaper.

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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:52:09pm

re: #280 DodgerFan1988

So not being in “your” country isn’t enough then. Genocidal cult.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:52:14pm

re: #255 gocart mozart

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or one of Kragar’s game pieces.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:52:51pm

That moment close becomes too close.

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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:53:18pm

re: #282 Amory Blaine

360 pivot!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:53:50pm

re: #282 Amory Blaine

Glad to see the POTUS pivot today!

Niagara Falls! Slowly I pivoted, step by step, inch by inch…….

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:56:39pm
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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:56:50pm

Rolling with the pardon party I guess.
Cc: NY AG Schneiderman

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 19, 2017 • 2:57:08pm

re: #285 JordanRules

So not being in “your” country isn’t enough then. Genocidal cult.

But they’re “Pro-Life.”

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:00:27pm

re: #290 MsJ

How many Republicans represent blue states and how many more Republicans than Democrats are there in the House?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:03:10pm

re: #293 Belafon

How many Republicans represent blue states and how many more Republicans than Democrats are there in the House?

Not sure on your first question but as to the second there are 46 more Rs than Ds with one seat currently vacant (from Chaffetz resignation)

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:03:34pm
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MsJ  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:03:54pm

re: #293 Belafon

How many Republicans represent blue states and how many more Republicans than Democrats are there in the House?

We only new a few.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:04:49pm

re: #294 Eclectic Cyborg

Not sure on your first question but as to the second there are 46 more Rs than Ds with one seat currently vacant.

I believe the correct question is how many are needed to kill this disaster.

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:05:43pm

re: #133 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

With her hands and mind? I expect there must be something else going on like chronic pain and mind-fogging meds.

That, plus PTSD, an immune system that hates her and severe sensitivity to many modern chemicals that expresses as dangerous asthma.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:06:49pm

re: #297 MsJ

I believe the correct question is how many are needed to kill this disaster.

Basically, I was wondering if there are more Republicans in blue states than the delta between Democrats and Republicans, and by how many if true.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:07:34pm
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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:07:37pm

Are you and your BFF beefing John? Or are you just playing fake maverick again?

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:08:21pm

re: #299 Belafon

Basically, I was wondering if there are more Republicans in blue states than the delta between Democrats and Republicans, and by how many if true.

That I don’t know. I do know we need to keep up the pressure to keep just a few from voting Yea.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:08:32pm

Admittedly, this is from March, but it’s newly appropriate, again.

And remember - Paul Ryan is supposed to be their Policy Wonk, their numbers guy.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:08:49pm

On Graham’s statement: Considering that one of the first things the US government did was require sailors to buy into health care, requiring and supplying it is not anti-US or whatever, nor is it going to lead us to socialism.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:09:44pm

re: #303 Blind Frog Belly White

Admittedly, this is from March, but it’s newly appropriate, again.

And remember - Paul Ryan is supposed to be their Policy Wonk, their numbers guy.

Oh, Ryan would like to end that as well.

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freetoken  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:10:38pm

Hurricane Maria continues to drop in pressure. Perhaps will end up with high velocity winds than Irma. This will be a very dangerous storm for PR/VI.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:11:25pm

re: #301 JordanRules

Are you and your BFF beefing John? Or are you just playing fake maverick again?

If McCain keeps killing those bills for this reason, he’ll remain the enemy of my enemy, and that’s OK.

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meteor  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:12:20pm

re: #61 Stanley Sea

I had panic attacks all day because of this dumb motherfucker.

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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:13:40pm

re: #307 Belafon

My takeaway from that tweet was that his maverick, statesman power isn’t doing much right now.
Of course if he dramatically votes no again, great!

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:15:00pm

re: #309 JordanRules

My takeaway from that tweet was that his maverick, statesman power isn’t doing much right now.
Of course if he dramatically votes no again, great!

I’m not going to claim he’s my friend, that’s for sure, but I’ll laugh if he gets McConnell to give that look again.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:15:20pm

Wisconsin Senate panel votes to allow concealed guns without permits

A state Senate committee on Tuesday approved a bill that would allow people to carry concealed guns without getting training or state permits and in some cases bring them onto school grounds.

The Senate Judiciary and Public Safety Committee signed off on the bill 3-2, with all Republicans for it and all Democrats against it. The wide-ranging legislation would also allow people to carry Tasers without training or permits and would allow felons to carry muzzle loaders.

Sen. Van Wanggaard (R-Racine), the chairman of the committee, said Senate Bill 169 would make the public safer and ensure Wisconsin’s policies are the same for carrying weapons openly and concealed. Wisconsin has long allowed people to openly carry guns without training or permits.

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:15:44pm

re: #136 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I’m trying really hard not to be offended.

I hadn’t realized how little most people care for, or even notice the physically disabled. Bus drivers who snarl at the extra minute it takes for her to get on and belted in. Passengers that roll their eyes at being asked to move. People that swear at her because she ran over their foot despite being asked three times loudly to remove said foot from the aisle of the subway car.

Most places labelled ‘handicapped accessible’ are not. They might have a ramp to get in the door but the door opens outward which makes it difficult to use said ramp. The washrooms are on other floors with no elevator.

The first time my wife came to visit the customs agent that dealt with her spent a half hour ranting at my wife because my wife was “coming to leech off of honest Canadians.” I couldn’t get my wife to leave the apartment for days after because she was worried she’d be arrested and sent back to the US, never to be allowed to return.

I see no reason why working would be any different.

Despite all our society’s words about inclusiveness and diversity there is actually far less of it than we believe.

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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:16:35pm

re: #310 Belafon

Indeed! I stayed up really late to see that look in real time and will gladly do it again.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:16:56pm

re: #279 Stanley Sea

JFC.

Now that Obama’s gone they have to find a way to make up for the lost revenue.

[Embedded content]

Fast & Furious Redux

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wheat-dogg  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:17:36pm

re: #311 Amory Blaine

I’ll be avoiding Wisconsin from now on.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:18:36pm
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MsJ  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:20:10pm

Portman is apparently unmoved.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:20:58pm

re: #315 wheat-dogg

I wish I could say the same my friend.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:21:25pm

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(Bert the Turtle)  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:29:42pm

re: #318 Amory Blaine

I wish I could say the same my friend.

I just talked my better half out of moving to St Paul(from Wisconsin) a couple of weeks ago. Hmmmmm.

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Interesting Times  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:30:53pm

re: #319 The Ghost of a Flea

Well-said as always, though I’m curious why you made it private when, as far as I can tell, there’s no personal information about you? Seems like pertinent general observations that deserve a wider audience…

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:33:40pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:34:07pm

re: #321 Interesting Times

Well-said as always, though I’m curious why you made it private when, as far as I can tell, there’s no personal information about you? Seems like pertinent general observations that deserve a wider audience…

I put more drastic statements in private, particularly if I’m spinning and theorizing in ways I’m not entirely confident of.

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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:35:30pm

re: #322 MsJ

I don’t trust Paul though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:35:51pm

re: #303 Blind Frog Belly White

Admittedly, this is from March, but it’s newly appropriate, again.

And remember - Paul Ryan is supposed to be their Policy Wonk, their numbers guy.

[Embedded content]

Someone ask Paulie what happens when a healthy family eventually finds itself having to deal with a serious sudden illness, accident or *gasp* a planned pregnancy, and puts in an insurance claim.

I’ll wait…
(I remember the “good old days” of what happened to your premiums when you put in a claim.)

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:37:14pm

Jumping back in here to comment. I am watching Ari Melber’s The Beat on MSNBC.

They are now referring to this new Republican healthcare legislation as Graham-Cassidy instead of Graham-Cassidy-Heller.

Any idea when that changed?

Was it by any chance today when the Governor of Nevada said he doesn’t support the bill? ANd maybe Heller backed out because of that.

Seems strange. Of course it is the Republicans, so strange makes sense, I guess.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:38:55pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:39:11pm

haha, trying to schmooze showing off all his new friends

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:46:20pm

re: #306 freetoken

Hurricane Maria continues to drop in pressure. Perhaps will end up with high velocity winds than Irma. This will be a very dangerous storm for PR/VI.

Speaking about Maria.

I still have not heard from my Puerto Rican friend living on Vieques island just off PR. I think the eye of Maria is predicted to go right over the island.

I am hoping she either has no internet or has made her way back to America where she has other friends and family and is out of touch. She usually is quick to respond.

I emailed her again today saying I hope she can stay safe. It is all I can do.

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fern01  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:49:51pm

re: #161 Kragar

President Trump is using campaign & RNC funds to pay Russia probe legal bills

Of course he is - why would he use his own funds when he can use someone else’s. Then again - he will probably bill the campaign and not pay the lawyers.

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:55:48pm

re: #317 MsJ

Portman is apparently unmoved.

[Embedded content]

Grrrrrr.

I hope this costs Portman. He is going to go into hiding and then come out and vote for this like the wimp he is.

And look at Kasich making sense.

I was at a Lowes here in Columbus waiting to get some paint. Two guys by me got to chatting about politics and I was just listening. One mentioned something about Kasich might end up running for President again. I jumped in with, “What? He’s running now.” Both said “You may have a point.”

Again. I don’t like him, but the Republicans seem to be making a run easy for him. Damn it all!

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:55:55pm

So, I wake up and choose to log in here, so I can get away from the conservative propaganda that is my local newspaper. First take: The GOP is a genocidal cult.

- Trump threatens genocide on a scale never seen before, in front of the assembled nations of the United Nations.

- The GOP apparently wants to resurrect workhouses for the poor with the latest addition to Graham-Cassidy. Both of my senators are on-board with that, and my representative says he does not represent Democrats in his district.

- In the healthcare issue, it does seem a bit like Heinlein’s “citizenship for service” idea from “Starship Troopers,” except they want to cut the VA and privatise it as well. Come home with your shield or on it.

- Forty years of insisting immigrants are bad and birthright citizenship should be stripped seems to be moving to a reality, such that a large swath of us are not going to have any rights (see also forty years of insisting constitutional rights also apply to citizens).

- If they don’t kill us all with a war, then they’ll try to do it with climate change. As long as there’s a buck to be made.

But then, the religion they pay lip service does the same:

“If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantageth it me, if the dead rise not? let us eat and drink; for to morrow we die.” - 1 Corinthians 15:32, one of Donald Trump’s two favourite Corinthians in the New Testament.

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fern01  Sep 19, 2017 • 3:56:33pm

re: #204 Charles Johnson

These people are fucking unreal.

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The rule book doesn’t apply to this one

How many times does it have to be said - “Imagine if Obama had done this?”
“And the Clinton Foundation …”

Every thing that republicans dreamed about is wrapped up in the actions of tRump - they love it. This is a dictatorship - for one person by one person - a third rate country indeed.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2017 • 4:00:51pm

re: #324 JordanRules

I don’t trust Paul though.

With very good reason.

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2017 • 4:01:00pm

re: #321 Interesting Times

Well-said as always, though I’m curious why you made it private when, as far as I can tell, there’s no personal information about you? Seems like pertinent general observations that deserve a wider audience…

Good point.

I love Charles set-up here, but in my opinion the ‘private’ feature gets used a bit too much and it adds an extra click to check out a response. Not good if you are trying to not use your hands as you are working on something, eating, etc. It’s nice and quick just to be able to use the arrow keys to scroll down.

I think part of it is people respond to a private comment and write in the private box upon quoting. I try to judge if my comment needs to be private and many times just cancel the private entry form that comes up on a quote and write in the regular entry box.

Just a thought.

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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2017 • 4:02:05pm

re: #323 The Ghost of a Flea

I put more drastic statements in private, particularly if I’m spinning and theorizing in ways I’m not entirely confident of.

There’s nothing drastic there.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 4:06:04pm

re: #312 Romantic Heretic

I’m trying really hard not to be offended.

I hadn’t realized how little most people care for, or even notice the physically disabled. Bus drivers who snarl at the extra minute it takes for her to get on and belted in. Passengers that roll their eyes at being asked to move. People that swear at her because she ran over their foot despite being asked three times loudly to remove said foot from the aisle of the subway car.

Most places labelled ‘handicapped accessible’ are not. They might have a ramp to get in the door but the door opens outward which makes it difficult to use said ramp. The washrooms are on other floors with no elevator.

The first time my wife came to visit the customs agent that dealt with her spent a half hour ranting at my wife because my wife was “coming to leech off of honest Canadians.” I couldn’t get my wife to leave the apartment for days after because she was worried she’d be arrested and sent back to the US, never to be allowed to return.

I see no reason why working would be any different.

Despite all our society’s words about inclusiveness and diversity there is actually far less of it than we believe.

And “handicap accessible” doesn’t just apply to those using wheelchairs. I fought with my village library board for nearly a year to make the public library safe for those who are unsteady (or in my case have epilepsy) by covering sharp corners, bolting down bookshelves, &c. Lots of blank stares and “why do we need to do thats.”

That said, if wheelchair is the standard for accessibility, then my town is about the most accessible I’ve seen. Since we have sand streets, the village paved sidewalks straight across the streets. All doors on government and private business buildings comply with ADA standards and are all one floor buildings (except the gun shop, which is a walk up store).

Handicap parking areas around the village hall and public library are designed in such a way that though the parking space itself is packed gravel, they open up on wide concrete areas to get out of a vehicle.

Since my wife uses a cane (and sometimes a walker), she finds the town and business buildings more accessible than our own house.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2017 • 4:06:27pm

re: #331 ObserverArt

Grrrrrr.

I hope this costs Portman. He is going to go into hiding and then come out and vote for this like the wimp he is.

And look at Kasich making sense.

I was at a Lowes here in Columbus waiting to get some paint. Two guys by me got to chatting about politics and I was just listening. One mentioned something about Kasich might end up running for President again. I jumped in with, “What? He’s running now.” Both said “You may have a point.”

Again. I don’t like him, but the Republicans seem to be making a run easy for him. Damn it all!

When Kasich runs help be back to being his usual asshole self. I still think that doesn’t sell in the Midwest. Maybe for Republicans but not in the general. And there are far less Republicans these days.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 19, 2017 • 4:34:00pm

re: #337 Anymouse 🌹

Since my wife uses a cane (and sometimes a walker), she finds the town and business buildings more accessible than our own house.

HAHAHAHA! So true.

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ckkatz  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:54:45pm

re: #312 Romantic Heretic

I am so sorry that you and your wife have to deal with so much crap.

So many folks are not able to understand much beyond their noses.

And yes, much of what is supposed to be disability accessible, really isn’t.

Wishing you both all success in persevering through the stupidity and obnoxiousness propagated upon you.

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cat-tikvah  Sep 19, 2017 • 10:59:19pm

re: #130 Rocky-in-Connecticut

I want Mike Pence Jr. deployed to South Korea immediately.

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cat-tikvah  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:02:59pm

re: #228 Big Beautiful Door

There’s also all those lazy nursing home residents whose stay is funded by Medicaid. Moochers.


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