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Belafon  Sep 19, 2017 • 6:51:17pm

Just remember, Hillary shouldn’t pick on Bernie.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 19, 2017 • 6:52:15pm

…….

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Dave In Austin  Sep 19, 2017 • 6:53:59pm

Try this again. Spread the word. There’s good rockin tonite.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2017 • 6:54:45pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 19, 2017 • 6:54:50pm

Something occurred to me earlier today. Kim Jong Un is only like 33 years old. That fucker could potentially rule NK for the next 50 years.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2017 • 6:55:33pm

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

Something occurred to me earlier today. Kim Jong Un is only like 33 years old. That fucker could potentially rule NK for the next 50 years.

Yeah scary thought isn’t it?

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2017 • 6:55:43pm

re: #3 Dave In Austin

Try this again. Spread the word. There’s good rockin tonite.

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If we can’t win on merits, we’ll kill off our constituents.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 19, 2017 • 6:56:25pm

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

Something occurred to me earlier today. Kim Jong Un is only like 33 years old. That fucker could potentially rule NK for the next 50 years.

I don’t think DPRK will last that long. I just don’t think people can be suppressed for that long.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 19, 2017 • 6:57:27pm

re: #3 Dave In Austin

Now we know why they won’t let it go. We could almost start chronically history by the number of attempts to repeal the ACA.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2017 • 6:57:39pm

re: #8 Birth Control Works

I don’t think DPRK will last that long. I just don’t think people can be suppressed for that long.

Of course they can. The Kims have ruled North Korea for the last seven decades.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:02:26pm

re: #8 Birth Control Works

I don’t think DPRK will last that long. I just don’t think people can be suppressed for that long.

Kim il Sung held power for nearly that long.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:02:32pm

re: #8 Birth Control Works

I don’t think DPRK will last that long. I just don’t think people can be suppressed for that long.

If the people don’t think they are being suppressed…

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:06:21pm

re: #10 Big Beautiful Door

Of course they can. The Kims have ruled North Korea for the last seven decades.

One of my favorite segments of Justice League from the 90’s was in an episode where Superman beats Darkseid. Superman throws him down off the pillar they were on and tells the people on Apokolips they are free. Instead of cheering, the pick up Darkseid and carry him to his abode. As he’s leaving, he tells Superman that he is their god.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:08:34pm

Stuck on the end of the last thread after it moved on:

re: #140 Charles Johnson

At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if FOX News Channel was to call for hanging witches (a la Salem), where witch is defined as anything not a wingnut Christian: Muslims, Wiccans, atheists, liberals, Democrats… .

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:08:45pm

re: #13 Belafon

One of my favorite segments of Justice League from the 90’s was in an episode where Superman beats Darkseid. Superman throws him down off the pillar they were on and tells the people on Apokolips they are free. Instead of cheering, the pick up Darkseid and carry him to his abode. As he’s leaving, he tells Superman that he is their god.

And the Kims have a virtual godlike status with their people. If anyone is going to take out Kim, it will be his generals.

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:12:14pm

re: #15 Big Beautiful Door

And the Kims have a virtual godlike status with their people. If anyone is going to take out Kim, it will be his generals.

They know where they’re bread is buttered. They won’t touch him.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:13:55pm

re: #16 austin_blue

They know where they’re bread is buttered. They won’t touch him.

He would have to quit buttering their bread. Basically, China would have to cut N.K. off, and probably give the generals a hint that if they take out Kim relations would improve.

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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:13:56pm

re: #16 austin_blue

They know where they’re bread is buttered. They won’t touch him.

These things always look like they will last forever, until they end. Getting China to play a more constructive role would be a good goal for US diplomacy, but with tr*mp in charge that’s not going to happen.

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:16:55pm

re: #18 EPR-radar

These things always look like they will last forever, until they end. Getting China to play a more constructive role would be a good goal for US diplomacy, but with tr*mp in charge that’s not going to happen.

Exactly.

And St. Croix has four more hours of existence as a functioning community:

nhc.noaa.gov:

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:16:58pm

From the previous thread:

re: #163 HappyWarrior

It’s amusing isn’t it? Tucker’s for regulating witchcraft but not many real things.

The argument is against a Wiccan. As far as I’m concerned, I don’t see any difference between their magic and the Catholic idea of transubstantiation, but that’s just me.

What Tucker Carlson and FOX News is implying indirectly is Wicca should be “regulated,” that is, outlawed.

Get away with that (outlawing Wicca), you could outlaw any religion that doesn’t to the conservative party’s line.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:17:55pm

re: #13 Belafon

One of my favorite segments of Justice League from the 90’s was in an episode where Superman beats Darkseid. Superman throws him down off the pillar they were on and tells the people on Apokolips they are free. Instead of cheering, the pick up Darkseid and carry him to his abode. As he’s leaving, he tells Superman that he is their god.

Jack Kirby may have reveled in cheese, but just underneath the surface he could jab at some very dark things. The New Gods were basically Indo-European, almost explicitly Norse-redux…but Apocalyps and Darkseid’s minions were products of a modern demonology that addressed the vices and flaws of human beings of a technological, informational age.

Like if Dante were populating his nine circles post-WW2.

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gocart mozart  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:22:03pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:22:56pm
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stpaulbear  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:23:20pm

Listening to a CD I just bought of Sandy Denny performances live on the BBC.

Heaven.

I got the last affordable used copy (in perfect condition) that Amazon had. Now I wish I would have bought the 4 disc set when it was in print. There is also a one disc distillation of the box that is still in print. So highly recommended.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:23:30pm

re: #15 Big Beautiful Door

It would be China’s generals. Just because they have the means, and a nation out of reach of any retaliation.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:23:51pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:24:59pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:28:03pm

This is not the first time right-wingers have gone after Wicca either. I wrote what wound up being a full-page column in the Jacksonville Times-Union op-ed page once, when then Senator Jesse Helms had attached an amendment to an agricultural bill attempting to ban Wicca.

I argued that the idea was repugnant as it stood against the constitutional right to freedom of religion—I got calls at my house for several days afterwards from priests and pastors around Jacksonville at my house thanking me as an atheist for standing up for freedom of religion.

When I was a Navy recruiter, an order came down from the recruiting command to remove “Wicca” (as part of the very long list of religions that could be put on an enlistment application) from the station recruiting manuals. (We were issued change pages for that.) The order was reversed a couple days later.

Conservatives have been going after Wicca for a long time, primarily because it is a tiny religion in the USA, and if they are successful with diminishing the rights of Wiccans or outlawing the religion, they have effectively neutered the I Amendment case for freedom of religion.

At that point, no faith (or “no faith”) would be safe. We would indeed be a Christian Nation (tm), and they’ll tell you exactly what form of Christianity you’ll follow, or else.

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calochortus  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:28:23pm

re: #26 MsJ

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Which just proves that Obama wiretapped Trump, just like Trump claimed!!!!

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Birth Control Works  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:28:39pm
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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:28:45pm

So, Jimmy Kimmel is going to call out Senator Cassidy about the Jimmy Kimmel Test. He has issued a statement Bill Cassidy outright lied to him. He is asking him to stop by the show for a lie detector test.

Hey, whatever helps. Maybe this touches just a few more people to be outraged.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:28:58pm

My friend in Mexico City is safe and I’m going to sleep. Peace.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:29:18pm

re: #23 The Vicious Babushka

Wow that is fucked up. Definitely designed to make people fail.

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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:30:56pm

re: #33 Eclectic Cyborg

Wow that is fucked up. Definitely designed to make people fail.

Several questions are ambiguous and/or have multiple possible answers. Obviously they only gave it to people they wanted to fail (i.e., black voters) and scored the results accordingly.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:32:31pm

re: #28 Anymouse 🌹

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:35:59pm

Just saw some video of Trump lawyer Michael Cohen on Lawrence. He was walking with what looked like other lawyer types. Probably his own defense.

He wasn’t looking as cocky and in-your-face defiant as usual. Something must be troubling him. I wonder what it is?

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:36:32pm

re: #27 gocart mozart

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I will raise you

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scottslemmons  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:37:31pm

re: #13 Belafon

One of my favorite segments of Justice League from the 90’s was in an episode where Superman beats Darkseid. Superman throws him down off the pillar they were on and tells the people on Apokolips they are free. Instead of cheering, the pick up Darkseid and carry him to his abode. As he’s leaving, he tells Superman that he is their god.

For completion’s sake, and because those old cartoons were so beautiful:

here i am god

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Birth Control Works  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:37:39pm

re: #37 Stanley Sea

I will raise you

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that is just wrong

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:39:10pm

re: #31 ObserverArt

So, Jimmy Kimmel is going to call out Senator Cassidy about the Jimmy Kimmel Test. He has issued a statement Bill Cassidy outright lied to him. He is asking him to stop by the show for a lie detector test.

Hey, whatever helps. Maybe this touches just a few more people to be outraged.

It definitely helps.

Not everyone is on twitter or pays any attn.

Kudos to Kimmel

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:41:27pm

re: #34 EPR-radar

Several questions are ambiguous and/or have multiple possible answers. Obviously they only gave it to people they wanted to fail (i.e., black voters) and scored the results accordingly.

I seem to remember such debate about questions on tests, forms, etc, being culturally biased, framed to be unfamiliar and about things some people wouldn’t know about in their lives all up through the 80s etc. Maybe later. I can’t seem to remember the last time there were issues actually in the public debate.

But it has been a trick played for a long time. And part is just as you say, it can be scored any way they want. But if anything it sure was an I.D.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:42:16pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:42:47pm

re: #37 Stanley Sea

I will raise you

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That’s the worst thing I’ve ever seen.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:44:45pm

re: #35 Joe Bacon 🌹

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:44:53pm

re: #24 stpaulbear

Listening to a CD I just bought of Sandy Denny performances live on the BBC.

Heaven.

I got the last affordable used copy (in perfect condition) that Amazon had. Now I wish I would have bought the 4 disc set when it was in print. There is also a one disc distillation of the box that is still in print. So highly recommended.

She was a brilliant singer, but she was crazy as hell. Still, a brilliant singer. My brother-in-law knew her. (He was a founding member of Silly Wizard, a scots-trad fusion band)

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:47:07pm

re: #37 Stanley Sea

I will raise you

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it needs a butt bag to go with it.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:48:16pm

re: #38 scottslemmons

The Timm/McDuffy cartoons got me into DC. It’s such a good version of the DC roster.

Man I wish the current DC “universe” would take more cues from that period. This whole “dark” thing is just drab and shallow.

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:48:27pm

re: #46 Single-handed sailor

it needs a butt bag to go with it.

Don’t know about that. Two cans of Red Stripe can’t be comfortable to sit on.

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calochortus  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:49:04pm

re: #45 austin_blue

She was a brilliant singer, but she was crazy as hell. Still, a brilliant singer. My brother-in-law knew her. (He was a founding member of Silly Wizard, a scots-trad fusion band)

Your brother in law was a founding member of Silly Wizard? I bow down in your general direction! Very cool.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:49:21pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:49:51pm

re: #50 goddamnedfrank

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:50:26pm

re: #44 Anymouse 🌹

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William Lewis  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:50:33pm

re: #35 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:50:35pm

Katy Tur had to deal with John Barrasso talking over her because he didn’t want to answer her question about preexisting conditions.

And then read John Kennedy of Louisiana justify Congress presenting states from setting up single payer:

On Tuesday, asked by The Intercept about the status of his legislation, he said that the bill’s cosponsors, Sens. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and Bill Cassidy, R-La., told him that the measure already bans single payer, but that he was welcome to offer his amendment either way.

“I don’t think states should have the authority to take money from the American taxpayer and set up a single-payer system,” he said. “Now some people think that that’s inconsistent with the idea of flexibility. But that’s what the United States Congress is for. I very much believe in flexibility. And I know the governors want flexibility. But it’s our job to make sure that that money is properly spent.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:52:17pm

re: #53 William Lewis

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petesh  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:52:30pm

re: #45 austin_blue

She was a brilliant singer, but she was crazy as hell. Still, a brilliant singer. My brother-in-law knew her. (He was a founding member of Silly Wizard, a scots-trad fusion band)

I saw her, I think with Fotheringay, and what struck me was how a perfectly ordinary woman could open her mouth and turn into a spell-binding beauty. It was more than her voice, she became transformed and no one could take their eyes off her. Then the song ended and she was, once again, just Sandy who liked a pint or five. I’ve never seen anything like it.

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:52:41pm

More from Lawrence O’Donnell tonight.

He has Rob Reiner on talking about Reiner’s new web site Committee to Investigate Russia

They showed this from the site.

Committee to Investigate Russia: War

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:54:06pm

Proud of Jimmy Kimmel standing up to Cassidy and calling him out for the liar he is!

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:55:22pm
“I don’t think states should have the authority to take money from the American taxpayer and set up a single-payer system,” he said. “Now some people think that that’s inconsistent with the idea of flexibility. But that’s what the United States Congress is for. I very much believe in flexibility. And I know the governors want flexibility. But it’s our job to make sure that that money is properly spent.”

Senator Kennedy is a liar.

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William Lewis  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:56:13pm

re: #55 Joe Bacon 🌹

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nowherenorth2  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:56:37pm

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹

Exactly. What bullshit

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Birth Control Works  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:57:34pm

The Trumps Say They’re Opening Hotels in Dallas, Nashville and Elsewhere. We Couldn’t Find Evidence of Them.
What we found are false starts, fizzled-out partnerships and, often, no signs of deals at all.

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scottslemmons  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:59:01pm

re: #47 The Ghost of a Flea

The Timm/McDuffy cartoons got me into DC. It’s such a good version of the DC roster.

Man I wish the current DC “universe” would take more cues from that period. This whole “dark” thing is just drab and shallow.

DC and Warner Bros. have a problem with wildly misunderstanding the point of superheroes. They took Superman, their Big Blue Scout, their poster boy for optimism, and tried to turn him into an edgelord. They did the same thing for Captain Marvel. They took the Flash, who always had one of the best costumes in the comics biz, and turned it into some crazy-busy armored thing.

They seem to go through periods where they remember, hey, grimdark is a sometimes food! And then it seems like they relapse and dive right into the “Everyone wears spikes, superheroes kill people all the time and never smile, Plastic Man isn’t fun unless he’s scary” pile of bullshit.

Not that Marvel doesn’t fuck up plenty. (Hello, “Captain America is now a Nazi!”) But at least they have Disney to breathe down their necks about not turning their Highly Marketable Properties into a maze of snapped ribs and blood bruises…

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 7:59:39pm

re: #60 William Lewis

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:00:16pm

re: #62 Birth Control Works

You mean there is nothing behind the smoke and mirrors? Shocking.

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:00:17pm

re: #49 calochortus

Your brother in law was a founding member of Silly Wizard? I bow down in your general direction! Very cool.

Bob Thomas. He left after two albums. Things were getting very (sniff, glug) crazy.

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:00:36pm

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹

Senator Kennedy is a liar.

They’re all bad liars Anymore.

Advise to vote them out -100,000,000/10

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ipsos  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:02:27pm

re: #66 austin_blue

I too am somewhat in awe. Mrs. ipsos was a big SW fan when we met.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:04:04pm

re: #63 scottslemmons

DC and Warner Bros. have a problem with wildly misunderstanding the point of superheroes. They took Superman, their Big Blue Scout, their poster boy for optimism, and tried to turn him into an edgelord. They did the same thing for Captain Marvel. They took the Flash, who always had one of the best costumes in the comics biz, and turned it into some crazy-busy armored thing.

They seem to go through periods where they remember, hey, grimdark is a sometimes food! And then it seems like they relapse and dive right into the “Everyone wears spikes, superheroes kill people all the time and never smile, Plastic Man isn’t fun unless he’s scary” pile of bullshit.

Not that Marvel doesn’t fuck up plenty. (Hello, “Captain America is now a Nazi!”) But at least they have Disney to breathe down their necks about not turning their Highly Marketable Properties into a maze of snapped ribs and blood bruises…

I’ve binged watched most of the Marvel Universe on Netflix. While I’ve enjoyed most of them, they seem to taking a strange direction. I remember superheros working WITH the police and specifically not being vigilantes.

The Marvel characters are constantly at odds with law enforcement. I’m not sure wouldhave appreciated that when my kid was young.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:04:09pm
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Birth Control Works  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:04:34pm

re: #65 Eclectic Cyborg

You mean there is nothing behind the smoke and mirrors? Shocking.

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I know!

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William Lewis  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:05:01pm

re: #64 Anymouse 🌹

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Birth Control Works  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:05:45pm

re: #67 ObserverArt

They’re all bad liars Anymore.

Advise to vote them out -100,000,000/10

Politicians have always been liars. It was easier before instant global video communication. Now, they science to help them.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:06:19pm
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Birth Control Works  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:06:55pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

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He is pissed about Handmaid’s Tale?

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stpaulbear  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:07:12pm

re: #45 austin_blue

She was a brilliant singer, but she was crazy as hell. Still, a brilliant singer. My brother-in-law knew her. (He was a founding member of Silly Wizard, a scots-trad fusion band)

I read a biography of her called ‘I’ve Always Kept A Unicorn’. Yes, she had kind of a troubled life. It sounds like she was always her own worst enemy.

Silly Wizard was pretty cool. I was trying to keep up with artists on Green Linnet records many years ago but there were too many artists. Did your bil know The Bothy Band?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:07:14pm

re: #43 goddamnedfrank

That’s the worst thing I’ve ever seen.

But you have seen it….

YouTube

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Bass Reeves  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:08:11pm

re: #69 Birth Control Works

I’m not sure origin story Marvel heroes were all that tight with the police, but they ended up with at least a comfortable relationship with them. I haven’t watched Iron Fist yet, but the other three (halfway through Luke Cage), they seem just….at least even with the police, if not super friendly.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:08:15pm

re: #64 Anymouse 🌹

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calochortus  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:08:16pm

re: #66 austin_blue

Bob Thomas. He left after two albums. Things were getting very (sniff, glug) crazy.

I’ll have to listen to Caledonia’s Hardy Sons with more attention, then. :-) I don’t think I have the other album he’d be on.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:10:13pm

re: #79 Joe Bacon 🌹

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William Lewis  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:10:40pm

re: #69 Birth Control Works

The Marvel characters are constantly at odds with law enforcement. I’m not sure wouldhave appreciated that when my kid was young.

Law enforcement has never really been as good as we want to pretend. There is no Sheriff Andy and there is no Adam-12. And when it really gets bad we’re back to the people in places like St. Louis whom the old deep south would envy.

These shows can’t quite say that yet but many of the people, especially if they’re minorities. watching it understand.

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:11:17pm

re: #73 Birth Control Works

Politicians have always been liars. It was easier before instant global video communication. Now, they science to help them.

Of course. But it is critical to see what they’re lying about. Some of them are worse than others as to what the lying is trying to achieve. Right now the lying seems to be worse than before as to intent.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:12:22pm

Cuteness Break (courtesy of GGT’s Image Library Archives)

zooborns.com: ZooBorns (ZooBorns)
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scottslemmons  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:12:52pm

re: #69 Birth Control Works

I’ve binged watched most of the Marvel Universe on Netflix. While I’ve enjoyed most of them, they seem to taking a strange direction. I remember superheros working WITH the police and specifically not being vigilantes.

The Marvel characters are constantly at odds with law enforcement. I’m not sure wouldhave appreciated that when my kid was young.

That’s really something from the Silver Age comics in the ’60s. DC was run mostly by the older, more conservative generation. Marvel’s edge was in appealing to college kids and the counterculture.

So DC’s heroes were the ones who were deputized by the police. Marvel’s usually had a less cooperative relationship. Spidey was wanted by the police almost constantly, and lots of Marvel cops thought the Avengers and the Fantastic Four were showboating prima donnas. The press tended to be anti-superhero, too. J. Jonah Jameson hated Spider-Man, and the rest of the media treated superheroes like celebrities — not as people to worship, but as people to gossip and sermonize about. And then there’s the X-Men. You just can’t tell what those filthy mutants are up to…

IOW, you’re not wrong — the two universes were designed that way.

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Kragar  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:13:05pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:13:14pm

I just feel really first world + plain lucky fortunate. That little 3.6 yawner quake last night could have been a whole different story. Yet tonight fellow Americans are under the gun from another hurricane. Texas and Florida are already hit hard. Gonna dig in a bit deeper and do a little more for relief efforts ‘cause not in need here today.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:13:26pm

re: #83 ObserverArt

Of course. But it is critical to see what they’re lying about. Some of them are worse than others as to what the lying is trying to achieve. Right now the lying seems to be worse than before as to intent.

And, there are layers to a truth.

It’s difficult for me to describe. There are things the public doesn’t need to know. THings that are complex and cannot be adequately explained in terms every citizen will understand in a soundbite.

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stpaulbear  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:13:34pm

re: #84 Birth Control Works

Baby Elephant Walk

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:13:46pm

re: #68 ipsos

I too am somewhat in awe. Mrs. ipsos was a big SW fan when we met.

They were a great band. Andy Summers had a voice like an angel. Johnny Cunningham was the best trad fiddler in Scotland. Both are now dead. The band was inducted into the Scottish Trad Hall of Fame in 2012. Bob is still close with Gordon Jones, who lives with his wife up in the Lake District. I met him at Bob and Holly’s wedding. Great guy. Phil Cunningham (Johnny’s brother) is a regular on the Transatlantic Sessions series and is a good buddy of Aly Bain. They do an annual Hogmanay BBC Scotland show.

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calochortus  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:13:54pm

Vietnam War, Part 3. Must pay more attention, so hasta mañana, all.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:14:15pm

re: #89 stpaulbear

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I love that song.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:14:23pm

Bear in mind two things about literacy tests as used to subvert voting rights in the Jim Crow South:

a) The 1965 Civil Rights Act banned the tests. (The 1964 Voting Rights Act only partially banned them, which is why they were changed in 1964 to comply with the Act while still denying the vote to minorities where they could.)

Rand Paul is opposed to the 1965 Civil Rights Act and would like to see it overturned.

b) The 1965 Act was only declared constitutional during the Nixon Administration in 1970, in a deeply-divided court that could not agree on the rationale of literacy tests being unconstitutional, in Oregon v Mitchell (1970)

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gocart mozart  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:15:05pm
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Birth Control Works  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:15:22pm

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:15:25pm

re: #81 Birth Control Works

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:16:19pm

re: #76 stpaulbear

I read a biography of her called ‘I’ve Always Kept A Unicorn’. Yes, she had kind of a troubled life. It sounds like she was always her own worst enemy.

Silly Wizard was pretty cool. I was trying to keep up with artists on Green Linnet records many years ago but there were too many artists. Did your bil know The Bothy Band?

I don’t know. Hasn’t come up in conversation.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:16:20pm

re: #96 Joe Bacon 🌹

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teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:16:50pm

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Birth Control Works  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:18:14pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:18:21pm

Witches Cast Monthly Spell On Trump - Tucker Carlson

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:21:27pm

You know he has.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:21:55pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:22:23pm

re: #63 scottslemmons

They put their faith in the guy that did Watchmen but didn’t seem to notice that Watchmen was a searing critique of the human condition such that “superheroes” wouldn’t work not because of powers or tech, but because of the complexity of problems and people. [Adding in that each Watchmen main character is a dismantling of the corresponding intellectual property that DC purchased and hired Moore to do the pitch write for…the Question, Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, and (one I can’t remember?)]

I’m not really invested in characters being one way—that train has set sail long ago, and “continuity” is clapped-out, but the current versions are pretty dull. They’re not even interesting in a wild-ass way, like Miller’s old Batman or the Red Son version of Superman. Just…flat.

That said, Flash has a costume that would be almost impossible to look good on a real person in motion. He’s one of those comics characters who’s basically a colored-in nude with a few accessories, often as not, and there’s not real life materials (except…paint and yoga pants) that clings like that. Of course they’re doing armor; it’s forgiving.

With Marvel I have the advantage of…not being invested at all. I’m -meh- on the cinematic universe. It has moments, but I get the giggles because Loki is Henry V and Doctor Strange is Richard III. I wanted Edgar Wright’s Ant-Man because it was Edgar Wright and got an amuse-bouche helping. I may see the next Thor in the theater because it’s Taika Waititi heading the picture. The Netflix shows have been engaging but uneven. Jessica Jones was deeply thoughtful and well-acted but sometimes slow. Luke Cage had compelling ideas and some good performances, but had some weird flabby bits. Daredevil started compelling and then got bogged down in ninjas. Iron Fist never reached the surface of the ninjas. The Defenders sort of bobbed atop ninjas and had some good moments, but the villains were disappointing and there was a persistent Iron Fist aroma to it.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:24:21pm

re: #84 Birth Control Works

Cuteness Break (courtesy of GGT’s Image Library Archives)

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Birth Control Works  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:24:40pm

re: #104 The Ghost of a Flea

I think Jessica Jones and Luke Cage are my favs.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:25:25pm

re: #105 Stanley Sea

speaking of yasher:

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Birth Control Works  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:28:00pm

I WHAAAAANNNNT a Bebe Elephant!!!!!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:29:41pm

re: #103 Birth Control Works

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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:31:05pm

Could be worse. LOL

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Birth Control Works  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:31:32pm
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FormerDirtDart  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:32:11pm

re: #108 Birth Control Works

I WHAAAAANNNNT a Bebe Elephant!!!!!!

I get tired of picking up after my dogs and emptying the cat’s litter bow.
No way in damn hell do I want a baby elephant…

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:33:05pm

re: #112 FormerDirtDart

I get tired of picking up after my dogs and emptying the cat’s litter bow.
No way in damn hell do I want a baby elephant…

At least it’s compostable…

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Birth Control Works  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:33:53pm

re: #112 FormerDirtDart

I get tired of picking up after my dogs and emptying the cat’s litter bow.
No way in damn hell do I want a baby elephant…

I’d rather pu after a baby elephant than change diapers.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:35:27pm

re: #79 Joe Bacon 🌹

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:35:41pm

re: #114 Birth Control Works

I’d rather pu after a baby elephant than change diapers.

I’ve never had the misfortune.
But, yeah. I can see that.

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Kragar  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:36:00pm

re: #106 Birth Control Works

I’m just glad that it looks like they’re finally getting the Punisher right. In the stand alone films, he was just a guy with a gun. In the Marvel universe, he’s a guy who sees people who can shoot lightning bolts and fly, and thinks they’re not willing to go far enough to really stop criminals.

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ipsos  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:36:18pm

Got into a conversation with a friend about our favorite regional burgers.

I made the mistake of bringing up the green chile cheeseburger at Blake’s in New Mexico.

Now I am both very hungry for one, and also 1557 miles from the nearest location.

Dammit.

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Kragar  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:37:38pm
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retired cynic  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:38:28pm

re: #119 Kragar

Aw…

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:39:17pm

Well, shit. She Who Must Be Obeyed has a gig at the Green Mesquite on Saturday and John Burnett (who right now is the best mouth harp player in Austin) was sitting in for several tunes. She just got back and told me that NPR is sending him down to Mexico City to cover the quake. Life comes atcha fast.

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:40:46pm

re: #119 Kragar

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:40:49pm
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Birth Control Works  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:40:56pm

have to do some stuff

bbl

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:45:00pm

re: #123 Charles Johnson

In the replies:

It’s really sad how many people cannot figure out how the real world works. It’s actually not that hard.

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Kragar  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:45:24pm

Wait, I thought the Alt Right said they were totally different from Nazis…

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ipsos  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:45:45pm

re: #121 austin_blue

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:46:40pm

re: #126 Kragar

Wait, I thought the Alt Right said they were totally different from Nazis…

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:50:05pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:51:08pm

re: #126 Kragar

Wait, I thought the Alt Right said they were totally different from Nazis…

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There is a difference—The Alt-RIght wants to add a pine scent to the Zyklon B…

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:51:33pm
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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:53:06pm

re: #127 ipsos

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:53:56pm

re: #111 Birth Control Works

Here’s his monologue.

Jimmy Kimmel on Bill Cassidy’s Health “Care” Bill

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:56:44pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:56:48pm

re: #117 Kragar

I’m just glad that it looks like they’re finally getting the Punisher right. In the stand alone films, he was just a guy with a gun. In the Marvel universe, he’s a guy who sees people who can shoot lightning bolts and fly, and thinks they’re not willing to go far enough to really stop criminals.

It helps that instead of trying to rationalize his behavior as understandable they just bypassed a lot of the questions about the morality of his methods by simply saying this guy is brain damaged, constantly locked in a heightened state of mental fight or flight and forever out of fucks to give.

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freetoken  Sep 19, 2017 • 8:59:34pm

re: #134 Anymouse 🌹

San Juan radar:

radar.weather.gov

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freetoken  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:00:25pm

The only live cam I can find for St. Croix is the one from the Caravelle resort, and it doesn’t show much, and it cuts out.

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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:01:23pm
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wheat-dogg  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:02:07pm

re: #89 stpaulbear

A Henry Mancini composition, which he wrote specifically for steam calliope and orchestra. It was part of the score for the movie Hatari.

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:02:23pm

re: #136 freetoken

San Juan radar:

radar.weather.gov

St. Croix has dropped offline, apparently.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:03:30pm

re: #133 Ace Rothstein

Epic. I loved how he told the haters they could basically fuck off.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:03:52pm

re: #134 Anymouse 🌹

Otherwise known as Maria eats Puerto Rico.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:04:15pm

* WIND:
Potential impacts from the main wind event are now unfolding across
PUERTO RICO AND THE US VIRGIN ISLANDS. Remain well sheltered from life-
threatening wind. If realized, these impacts include:
- Structural damage to sturdy buildings, some with complete roof
and wall failures. Complete destruction of mobile homes. Damage
greatly accentuated by large airborne projectiles. Locations
may be uninhabitable for weeks or months.
- Numerous large trees snapped or uprooted along with fences and
roadway signs blown over.
- Many roads impassable from large debris, and more within urban
or heavily wooded places. Many bridges, causeways, and access
routes impassable.
- Widespread power and communications outages.

San Juan local hurricane statement, more at the link:
forecast.weather.gov

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:10:38pm

re: #142 wheat-dogg

Otherwise known as Maria eats Puerto Rico.

Virgin Islands Territorial Emergency Management Agency Website is off-line.

vitema.gov

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petesh  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:10:56pm

re: #133 Ace Rothstein

Here’s his monologue.

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Video

Yay Kimmel!

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CBGB  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:12:51pm

re: #102 Ace-o-aces

Don’t give accounts like that the time of day

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:16:15pm

re: #118 ipsos

The food in New Mexico was just pretty amazing on our trip there. Definitely a highlight.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:20:31pm

re: #145 petesh

Yay Kimmel!

I’m politicising my son’s illness.

Actually, no Mr. Kimmel, the conservatives politicised your son’s healthcare, you are trying to defend your son’s life from a death cult.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:22:25pm
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FormerDirtDart  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:24:17pm

And that counts as a near miss

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:26:53pm

Maria is a 30 mile wide F3 tornado. A 40 mile wide F2 tornado.

St. Croix is in for a proper pounding. What Irma didn’t fuck up in the USVIs, Maria is going to take care of. Poor souls.

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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:31:29pm

Rude Pundit - The Short Bus to Armageddon: Trump at the UN

Whatever you think of the U.N., most of the leaders in that room are people who have dedicated their lives to the politics of their nation. Most of them are vastly educated, well-read, worldly, and, to varying degrees, smart enough to know a fucking idiot when they see one. So you had to imagine the reactions to Trump at the General Assembly ranged from horror to bemusement to calculating how easy it would be to roll this rube (looking at you, Saudi Arabia).

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:31:48pm

NWS report for Guayama, Puerto Rico (on the SE coast where Maria should make landfall). Note the wind speeds are before the hurricane arrives.

Overnight
Showers and possibly a thunderstorm. Some of the storms could produce heavy rain. Low around 76. Strong and damaging winds, with a north wind 41 to 46 mph increasing to 50 to 55 mph. Winds could gust as high as 75 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New rainfall amounts between 1 and 2 inches possible.

Wednesday
Showers and possibly a thunderstorm. Some of the storms could produce heavy rain. High near 81. Strong and damaging winds, with a north wind 120 to 130 mph becoming south 49 to 59 mph. Winds could gust as high as 185 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New rainfall amounts between 2 and 3 inches possible.

Wednesday Night
Tropical storm conditions expected, with hurricane conditions possible. Showers and possibly a thunderstorm. Some of the storms could produce heavy rain. Low around 76. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New rainfall amounts in excess of 4 inches possible.
forecast.weather.gov

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:33:13pm

re: #150 FormerDirtDart

And that counts as a near miss

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Puerto Rico radar doesn’t have it clearing St. Croix yet.

radar.weather.gov

The eyewall looks to pass the western end of the island by a skosh, but that puts it into the hell of the surge. “Near miss” may be a euphemism.

And, oh shit, in the last two frames she just jogged straight north.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:38:03pm

Remember Chad? Well he’s still a fucking idiot.

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:39:32pm

re: #155 goddamnedfrank

Remember Chad? Well he’s still a fucking idiot.

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I don’t. But I totally agree with the sentiment.

What a maroon.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:41:47pm

The NWS just posted an updated Hurricane Warning for Guayama:

…HURRICANE WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT…

* LOCATIONS AFFECTED
- Southeast

* WIND
- LATEST LOCAL FORECAST: Equivalent Cat 4 Hurricane force wind
- Peak Wind Forecast: 115-135 mph with gusts to 190 mph
- Window for Tropical Storm force winds: until early Thursday
morning
- Window for Hurricane force winds: until Wednesday afternoon

Outside of a powerful tornado, I can’t imagine 190mph winds.
forecast.weather.gov

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:44:26pm

re: #157 Anymouse 🌹

The NWS just posted an updated Hurricane Warning for Guayama:

Outside of a powerful tornado, I can’t imagine 190mph winds.
forecast.weather.gov

You don’t want your dog hanging his head outside the window.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:45:19pm

The remnants of Tropical Storm Lee are now in the mid-Atlantic, and regenerating.

Jose is now a Tropical Storm.

nhc.noaa.gov

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Kragar  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:46:21pm

re: #155 goddamnedfrank

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freetoken  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:47:13pm

re: #160 Kragar

There’s little you can do for someone that dense.

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Kragar  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:48:14pm

re: #161 freetoken

There’s little you can do for someone that dense.

A heaping tablespoon of scorn and derision might hopefully get them to STFU in the future

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:48:40pm

re: #161 freetoken

There’s little you can do for someone that dense.

I’d rather live in a world where people don’t wear swastikas.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:54:18pm
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electrotek  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:56:11pm

Facebook Post

Has anyone seen comments similar to this in light of the Mexico City earthquake? I’m beyond disgusted

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Kragar  Sep 19, 2017 • 9:58:52pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 10:01:06pm

re: #165 electrotek

Mexican “illegals” don’t live in Mexico City.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 10:04:29pm
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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2017 • 10:06:21pm

re: #165 electrotek

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Has anyone seen comments similar to this in light of the Mexico City earthquake? I’m beyond disgusted

Oh, I’m sure they’re out there. “God’s retribution”, “God’s reaction to the Narco State”, &c.

Hard to justify that with 21 children crushed in the collapse of a school, but go figure.

Christians.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 10:08:11pm
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whitebeach  Sep 19, 2017 • 10:10:49pm

re: #168 Anymouse 🌹

The remark about how if we or our allies are threatened, “we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea” was the stupidest of many stupid remarks Trump made today, and possibly one of the stupidest he has made in his long, stupid, ignorant lifetime. I mean, come on, across the vast spectrum of possible diplomatic and military responses to a threat, real or imagined or most likely simply exaggerated, there is “no choice” except the obliteration of 25 million human beings?

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 10:12:44pm

re: #171 whitebeach

The remark about how if we or our allies are threatened, “we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea” was the stupidest of many remarks Trump made today, and possibly one of the stupidest he has made in his long, stupid, ignorant lifetime. I mean, come on, across the vast spectrum of possible diplomatic and military responses to a threat, real or imagined or most likely simply exaggerated, there is “no choice” except the obliteration of 25 million human beings?

Well, if he’s looking at a war as the only way to save his espionage-laden sinking presidency (using the royal we).

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 19, 2017 • 10:13:52pm
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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2017 • 10:19:08pm

re: #173 goddamnedfrank

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Snap!

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2017 • 10:22:12pm

She’s jogged west. The eyewall will pass west of Saint Croix. This is good news!

radar.weather.gov

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 10:25:19pm

Republicans focusing on important stuff, and that stuff is protecting their constituents (corporations):

Republicans Protecting the Little Guy and by Little Guy We Mean Equifax (goes to Wonkette)

The GOP has introduced bills to cap direct damages in class action suits against credit reporting agencies (and eliminate punitive damages entirely). In addition:

The other GOP bill making its way through the House would weaken the existing Credit Repair Organizations Act, which prevents “credit repair” outfits from making exaggerated claims of how they can improve consumers’ credit scores. A measure sponsored by California Rep. Ed Royce would exempt credit agencies from the act and allow them to charge customers up front to maybe fix their credit. It would also let them

keep “reasonable value for services” even if the consumer cancels within three days.

In other words, a credit agency could still pocket a consumer’s cash just for having opened a file in that person’s name.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 10:25:20pm

I found the President of the Chuck C Johnson Fan Club!

a+vWL9M29M9Kt/4pECc2UyekYt2jMyhbmgn76Ug+dzUD2haPJH2p6HSWedwFPu88f/W9VgAt5AYrZ8BCnEBb7rHx+hqIvVkfirUmO744HZB4wRAfp2/aao+9xtnjETKq2Limnw9Zu2LA3RjgwWWFqhAB0Ns3w5sO

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 10:27:29pm

re: #173 goddamnedfrank

Who is this dipship Chad Greene?

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2017 • 10:29:19pm

re: #177 Joe Bacon 🌹

I found the President of the Chuck C Johnson Fan Club!

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Umm..I’m…ermm…typeless.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 19, 2017 • 10:29:23pm

re: #173 goddamnedfrank

I’m genuinely scared that what we’re seeing is the terminal phase of the US’s disconnection from history, such that “the Nazis” exist only as bogeymen and video game sprites, and the qualities that made the Nazis so dangerous have just been shrugged off*.

You can see the same thing with people treating “white” as just another race, with all racism becoming about everything-equally-bad. It’s a position you can only arrive at if you don’t look at the anatomy of racism as it actually happened.

It’s weaponized shallowness. The concept doesn’t have an context or interior complexity, any solidity, so incredibly shitty, dangerous notions are now just…yet another option.

*I am especially scared of this because HOLY BALLS is there a lot of stray Nazi notions floating about, wrapped in Bircher and post-Bircher candy coating.

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Kragar  Sep 19, 2017 • 10:32:45pm
182
DodgerFan1988  Sep 19, 2017 • 10:33:43pm

re: #165 electrotek

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Has anyone seen comments similar to this in light of the Mexico City earthquake? I’m beyond disgusted

This asshole.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 10:35:57pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 10:43:43pm
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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2017 • 10:49:23pm

St. Croix had an oil refinery until 2012, but still maintains a huge depot for crude in the middle of the island, south side.

en.wikipedia.org

Uh oh.

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2017 • 10:53:48pm

Ouch.

nhc.noaa.gov?

Still coming north.

Nasty.

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allegro  Sep 19, 2017 • 10:53:57pm

re: #185 austin_blue

St. Croix had an oil refinery until 2012, but still maintains a huge depot for crude in the middle of the island, south side.

en.wikipedia.org

Uh oh.

Wow, no more Hess? My late husband (ChemE, project mgr) built several chunks of that refinery in the 80s/90s.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 10:54:27pm

On the issue of Equifax’s records breach which affected nearly every adult American (not counting the separate breach that they had in Argentina), a credit counsellor recommends that the free monitoring service offered by companies for such things is in fact meaningless.

He (as several others I have seen recently) recommends putting a credit freeze on all four of the credit bureaus (Equifax, Trans Union, Innovis, and Experian).

krebsonsecurity.com

(more at the link on how to do this):

There is shockingly little public knowledge or education about the benefits of a security freeze, also known as a “credit freeze.” I routinely do public speaking engagements in front of bankers and other experts in the financial industry, and I’m amazed at how often I hear from people in this community who are puzzled to learn that there is even such a thing as a security freeze (to be fair, most of these people are in the business of opening new lines of credit, not blocking such activity).

Also, there is a great deal of misinformation and/or bad information about security freezes available online. As such, I thought it best to approach this subject in the form of a Q&A, which is the most direct method I know how to impart knowledge about a subject in way that is easy for readers to digest.

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2017 • 10:58:30pm

I’m out, dear lizards. Sleep well, have good thoughts for our US citizens in the USVIs and PR, even if they can’t vote in our national elections.

But then, ask yourselves why US citizens can’t vote in national elections.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:04:56pm

My sister and brother are why Democrats keep losing.

I know I have to love your brothers and sisters, but I’m not required to like them, am I?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:05:35pm

re: #189 austin_blue

I’m out, dear lizards. Sleep well, have good thoughts for our US citizens in the USVIs and PR, even if they can’t vote in our national elections.

But then, ask yourselves why US citizens can’t vote in national elections.

Does it rhyme with Electrical Carnage?

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:08:24pm

re: #191 Blind Frog Belly White

Does it rhyme with Electrical Carnage?

No, it rhymes with “territories.”

Puerto Rico just voted for statehood. I guarantee the GOP will not want to do that (in which case, it would the first time in history a statehood bid was turned down).

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:10:29pm

The National Hurricane Center notes that Maria has an outer and inner eye. The NHC seems to think that this means the storm is not likely to intensify any more. That said, the outer eyewall is going to be over St. Croix for some time.

radar.weather.gov

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:12:30pm

re: #192 Anymouse 🌹

No, it rhymes with “territories.”

Puerto Rico just voted for statehood. I guarantee the GOP will not want to do that (in which case, it would the first time in history a statehood bid was turned down).

Ah, but if the President were elected by national popular vote….

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:15:19pm

re: #194 Blind Frog Belly White

Ah, but if the President were elected by national popular vote….

As per the National Popular Vote Compact, since there isn’t any way the Electoral College will be eliminated.

Even then, territorial citizens don’t have the right to vote (though they may run for President).

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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:18:04pm

re: #194 Blind Frog Belly White

It rhymes with crown and frown and drown. They aren’t the right skinfolk to be kinfolk. If they were going to vote the right way the GOP would find a way to gitt’er done! Rules, precedent, treaties, norms and compacts be damned.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:20:01pm

re: #195 Anymouse 🌹

As per the National Popular Vote Compact, since there isn’t any way the Electoral College will be eliminated.

Even then, territorial citizens don’t have the right to vote (though they may run for President).

Whether or not the EC CAN BE eliminated is not relevant. If we elected by direct popular vote, there’s no reason citizens in the territories couldn’t vote in that election.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:21:53pm

BTW, the EC will not survive the first Republican to win the popular vote and lose the EC. If the situation in 2016 were reversed, the amendment would be ratified by now.

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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:22:48pm

re: #198 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeppers!

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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:27:37pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:30:12pm

re: #176 Anymouse 🌹

God, I fucking hate Republicans.

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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:30:29pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:31:25pm

re: #198 Blind Frog Belly White

With any luck the GOP will stay far away from the popular vote for a long ass time.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:32:31pm

Hurricane Maria near St. Croix

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:36:42pm

re: #197 Blind Frog Belly White

Whether or not the EC CAN BE eliminated is not relevant. If we elected by direct popular vote, there’s no reason citizens in the territories couldn’t vote in that election.

The Constitution prohibits territorial citizens from voting in national elections separate from the Electoral College.

Insular areas, such as Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands and Guam, are not allowed to choose electors in U.S. presidential elections or elect voting members to the U.S. Congress. This grows out of Article I and Article II of the United States Constitution, which specifically mandate that electors are to be chosen by “the People of the several States”. In 1961, the 23rd amendment to the constitution extended the right to choose electors to the District of Columbia.

Any U.S. citizen who resides in Puerto Rico (whether a Puerto Rican or not) is effectively disenfranchised at the national level. Although the Republican Party and Democratic Party chapters in Puerto Rico have selected voting delegates to the national nominating conventions participating in U.S. presidential primaries or caucuses, U.S. citizens not residing in one of the 50 states or in the District of Columbia may not vote in federal elections.

en.wikipedia.org

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:40:36pm

re: #173 goddamnedfrank
Never heard of this Chad guy before. Already hate him.

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JordanRules  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:48:09pm

From the Guardian’s Hurricane live blog:

With power and communications down, confirmed reports from Dominica are still not available. Some information has come out of the island via ham (amateur) radio users, but until recovery teams arrive on Wednesday, it is impossible to verify the reports.

The West Indies and Caribbean News says it understands that 90% of buildings on the island have been destroyed.

Here is the WIC News report. Its key points are:

There are reports that at least six people have been killed.
“90% or more of the island’s buildings have been destroyed.”
Power lines are down, as are communications between the island and the rest of the world.
Landslides have blocked roads.
There are reports of severe flooding.
The prime minister, Roosevelt Skerrit, is said to be uncontactable, having had to be rescued from his own damaged home during the storm.

amp.theguardian.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:48:32pm

re: #206 Ace-o-aces

I saw that crap earlier. Who is Chad Greene?

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:53:14pm

cnn.com

CNN notes that the last time a Category IV storm hit Puerto Rico was 1932. Since then, the population of the island has doubled.

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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:55:31pm

re: #201 Eclectic Cyborg

God, I fucking hate Republicans.

I often think it’s impossible for me to despise Republicans any more than I currently do, but every single week of the tr*mp horror show so far has proved me wrong on this point.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:56:19pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2017 • 11:57:57pm

re: #206 Ace-o-aces

Body count for the Nazis: tens of millions.

Body count for BLM: zero.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 20, 2017 • 12:00:01am

My wife just looked up state laws regarding credit freezes in this state. The maximum a credit agency is allowed to charge is $3. I think it’s worth $12 to freeze all four agencies (and probably leave them that way).

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 20, 2017 • 12:03:50am
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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 12:18:53am

Having a hard time finding live streams from PR.

There are a lot of TV stations for such a small population, but at least 7 of them are Christian propaganda educational stations. That’s a lot of such things for an island of a few million people. Milk the gullibles, I guess.

The commercial stations - a few broadcast overnight and stream online, but they seem to be all infomercials.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 20, 2017 • 12:28:21am

re: #215 freetoken

Having a hard time finding live streams from PR.

There are a lot of TV stations for such a small population, but at least 7 of them are Christian propaganda educational stations. That’s a lot of such things for an island of a few million people. Milk the gullibles, I guess.

The commercial stations - a few broadcast overnight and stream online, but they seem to be all infomercials.

WMTJ PBS San Juan

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 20, 2017 • 12:30:59am

re: #215 freetoken

Having a hard time finding live streams from PR.

There are a lot of TV stations for such a small population, but at least 7 of them are Christian propaganda educational stations. That’s a lot of such things for an island of a few million people. Milk the gullibles, I guess.

The commercial stations - a few broadcast overnight and stream online, but they seem to be all infomercials.

I can’t help you with television stations, but I can help you with radio stations.

If a station has a Website, a link is provided to the station
radiostationworld.com (US and British Virgin Islands stations)

radiostationworld.com
(Puerto Rican station list by city, click on the city for the list)

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 12:33:18am

re: #216 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Don’t appear to be live streaming, though.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 20, 2017 • 12:35:57am
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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 12:36:07am

Eyewall appears to be filling in on radar.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 20, 2017 • 12:40:21am

re: #220 freetoken

Eyewall appears to be filling in on radar.

According to the National Hurricane Center, the hurricane had an inner and outer eyewall. The NHC said the inner eyewall would collapse, but that would not affect the strength of the storm (though it would not strengthen further).

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 20, 2017 • 12:42:39am
…300 AM AST POSITION AND INTENSITY UPDATE…
…MARIA’S FURY AIMED AT PUERTO RICO AND VIEQUES…

A sustained wind of 106 mph (170 km/h) with a wind gust to 137 mph
(220 km/h) was recently reported in the western portion of St.
Croix.

A sustained wind of 53 mph (85 km/h) with a wind gust to 76 mph
(122 km/h) was recently reported in Puerto Fajardo, Puerto Rico.

nhc.noaa.gov

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 12:53:33am

Palmas del Mar is supposedly the largest resort in PR, on the ocean, and will be center target for Maria:

google.com

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 12:55:23am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 20, 2017 • 12:56:27am

If churches can make money off consumers without actually helping them, why can’t credit agencies make a bit of money the same way?

Maybe the credit agencies could become ordained, then they wouldn’t have to pay taxes either.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 20, 2017 • 12:59:24am

re: #223 freetoken

Palmas del Mar is supposedly the largest resort in PR, on the ocean, and will be center target for Maria:

google.com

5 miles off the predicted path on the strong side.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 20, 2017 • 1:00:59am

re: #215 freetoken

Having a hard time finding live streams from PR.

There are a lot of TV stations for such a small population, but at least 7 of them are Christian propaganda educational stations. That’s a lot of such things for an island of a few million people. Milk the gullibles, I guess.

The commercial stations - a few broadcast overnight and stream online, but they seem to be all infomercials.

I don’t find it surprising for PR to have a large number of TV stations. It’s population is larger than those of 21 states. Plus, the majority of the population lives along the coast and the island is quite mountainous, blocking line of sight transmissions.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 20, 2017 • 1:01:45am

Equifax’s Chief Security Office was fired is retiring.

zerohedge.com

More at the link:

Mauldin has been with Equifax as CSO / CISO since 2013. She was previously Senior Vice President and Chief Security Officer at First Data Corporation, until July 2013. Mauldin was also SunTrust Banks’ Group Vice President from 2007 to 2009.

So far so good, but a problem emerges: according to LinkedIn, Mauldin’s stated educational background has no security or technology credentials, and consists of…. a bachelor’s degree in music composition (magna cum laude) and a Master of Fine Arts degree in music composition (summa cum laude), both from the University of Georgia. Once again, this is the person who was in charge of keeping your personal and financial data safe — and whose failure to do that have put 143 million at risk from identity theft and fraud.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 20, 2017 • 1:06:44am

re: #202 JordanRules

CBS chose a more muted headline

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 20, 2017 • 1:13:42am

Roy Moore Only Used Racial Slurs Because He Was Quoting Jesus, OK? (goes to Wonkette, with video of Roy Moore’s remaks)

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Timothy Watson  Sep 20, 2017 • 1:14:09am

re: #164 Anymouse 🌹

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This news article, posted down stairs, may be directly related to the Erdogan situation:

There was a story yesterday that Congress was pushing the State Department to deny a license for Sig Sauer to sell handguns to the Turkish government. If they don’t have the export rules, no one would even know about the deal. And I’m sure that gun manufacturers don’t want the bad press that comes when these stories pop up.
nytimes.com

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Amory Blaine  Sep 20, 2017 • 1:15:20am

re: #181 Kragar

That’s not ectoplasm!!

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 20, 2017 • 1:20:47am

The inner eyewall of Hurricane Maria has mostly collapsed. The main eyewall is now onshore at Vieques Island.
radar.weather.gov

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Kragar  Sep 20, 2017 • 1:26:39am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 20, 2017 • 1:33:48am

re: #234 Kragar

They still haven’t given up on that Laughter Curve yet, have they? Still insisting (as Kansas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, &c) that tax cuts create growth.

One thing’s for sure: conservatives are consistent. (Consistently wrong, but consistent.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 20, 2017 • 1:42:10am

This jerk:

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Teukka  Sep 20, 2017 • 1:44:34am

re: #126 Kragar

Wait, I thought the Alt Right said they were totally different from Nazis…

[Embedded content]

Yeah. Right. Check this out, HOPE Not Hate exposé on the alt-right:
The International Alternative Right

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2017 • 1:50:29am

re: #236 Anymouse 🌹

This jerk:

Dylann Roof says his appeals “should be worked on and written by lawyers with my best interests in mind.”

alt-right

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 2:02:47am
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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 2:07:22am

Winds are about to get much more intense in Fajardo, even more so than that tweet a few minutes ago.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 20, 2017 • 2:11:17am

Had Don Black been successful with his attempted overthrow of the government of Dominica that landed him in jail, it would be him and his merry band of Nazis that would have been wiped off Dominica instead of the good people who live there now.

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 2:14:41am

Winds should be peaking about now in Fajardo. So far no new tweets have showed up with #fajardo tag in several minutes.

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 2:19:03am
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 20, 2017 • 2:20:10am

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 20, 2017 • 2:20:27am

re: #241 Anymouse 🌹

Had Don Black been successful with his attempted overthrow of the government of Dominica that landed him in jail, it would be him and his merry band of Nazis that would have been wiped off Dominica instead of the good people who live there now.

Bayou of Pigs

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 2:21:32am

That periscope is from Rio Cañas, which is fairly inland.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 20, 2017 • 2:24:30am

re: #242 freetoken

Winds should be peaking about now in Fajardo. So far no new tweets have showed up with #fajardo tag in several minutes.

Tornado warning boxes going up all over eastern Puerto Rico. (The NWS warnings call them “extreme wind warnings”)

Fajardo NWS local hurricane statement (bold mine), partial, rest at link:

- LATEST LOCAL FORECAST: Equivalent Cat 4 Hurricane force wind
- Peak Wind Forecast: 115-135 mph with gusts to 190 mph
- Window for Tropical Storm force winds: until early Thursday
morning
- Window for Hurricane force winds: until this afternoon

- CURRENT THREAT TO LIFE AND PROPERTY: Extreme
- The wind threat has increased from the previous assessment.
- Remain braced against the reasonable threat for major
hurricane force wind greater than 110 mph of equivalent
Category 3 intensity or higher.
- To be safe, efforts should fully focus on protecting life.
Properties remain subject to devastating to catastrophic
wind impacts.
- Now is the time to urgently hide from the wind. Failure to
adequately shelter may result in serious injury, loss of
life, or immense human suffering. Remain sheltered until
the hazardous wind subsides. Be ready to quickly move to
the safest place within your shelter if extreme wind
warnings are issued.

forecast.weather.gov

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 20, 2017 • 2:25:24am

re: #244 Single-handed sailor

What is that mapping service you are using?

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 20, 2017 • 2:30:18am

re: #248 Anymouse 🌹

What is that mapping service you are using?

Google Earth Pro with the current active hurricane weather map KML file. This link will download the file and start Google Earth.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 20, 2017 • 2:38:29am

The KML files cover the whole planet but only show tracks for “American” storms.

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 3:15:50am

Facebook live stream of someone in SE PR:

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 3:17:25am

Someone inland a ways:

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 3:25:55am

Apparently the radars have now failed in PR.

The last image I could get it to load was at 545AM AST. You can see the outer part of the eyewall reaching the radar site:

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 3:27:47am

Probably not on the SE coastal area:

pscp.tv

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 3:28:49am
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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 3:31:29am

This stream appears to be from the SW side of the eyewall:

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 3:33:39am

I noticed the Farjardo buoy station stopped reporting at 4:42AST, now appears to be officially not responding:

ndbc.noaa.gov

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 3:37:57am

Lennie is inland, near the eyewall about now:

that’s freshwater flooding.

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 3:40:26am

Jose not far from Lennie, also freshwater flooding:

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 3:43:28am

Jose must live a good 15 miles from the coast and upland.

Those are freshwater waves coming into his property.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 20, 2017 • 3:44:57am

re: #253 freetoken

Apparently the radars have now failed in PR.

The last image I could get it to load was at 545AM AST. You can see the outer part of the eyewall reaching the radar site:

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NEXRAD radar is down as well, just as the eye reaches the shoreline.

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 3:48:09am

On map it looks like Edwin is inside eye now:

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 20, 2017 • 3:50:01am

Governor Brian Sandoval (R-Nev.) just submarined Senator Dean Heller.

thenevadaindependent.com

Gov. Brian Sandoval has sharply split with fellow Republican Sen. Dean Heller Wednesday over a last-ditch proposal to repeal the Affordable Care Act, joining a bipartisan group of nine other governors in asking Senate leadership not to consider the Graham-Cassidy-Heller-Johnson proposal.

The governors, who have written several letters to Congress throughout the health-care discussions this summer, asked Republican Senate Leader Mitch McConnell and Democratic Senate Leader Chuck Schumer in a letter on Tuesday to support bipartisan efforts to stabilize the federal health care system. They suggested that Congress consider measures to control costs, stabilize the market and address patients struggling with mental illness, chronic health problems and drug addiction.

(more)

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 3:50:32am

Ivan near the eyewall:

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 3:51:53am

Good grief, Jose Callazo looks like he’s on the high seas, but he’s inland.

Being overtaken by freshwater waves.

Stream just cut out.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 20, 2017 • 3:55:25am

Attack on black student at Cornell probed as possible hate crime, former fraternity house vandalized

A black student, a junior at the Ivy League school, had returned home to find a group of students near his driveway, arguing with the people he lived with. When he asked them to leave they insulted him, calling him racial slurs, before four or five of them started punching him in the face, the New York Times reported.

He was left “bloodied” by the incident and was hospitalized.

More Aryan supermen. The university says that an “un-affiliated fraternity” is responsible. A black student group has named them as Psi Upsilon, suspended in 2016 for various infractions. University president Martha Pollack did say rather pointedly that “Based on what we know, and pending final investigation, Cornell will not consider Psi Upsilon’s reinstatement as an affiliated fraternity,” That means FOREVER, assholes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 20, 2017 • 3:55:40am

re: #249 Single-handed sailor

Google Earth Pro with the current active hurricane weather map KML file. This link will download the file and start Google Earth.

The link will not let me download. It opens the download box, but greys out the “ok” button.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 20, 2017 • 3:57:29am

re: #264 freetoken

Ivan near the eyewall:

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I can’t watch any of these Facebook videos. My computer will not play them. I assume the weather is bad.

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 4:00:37am

re: #268 Anymouse 🌹

I can’t watch any of these Facebook videos. My computer will not play them. I assume the weather is bad.

Very. Jose C. must have lost power. He’s now back on, near his generator he started:

facebook.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 20, 2017 • 4:01:57am

re: #269 freetoken

Very. Jose C. must have lost power. He’s now back on, near his generator he started:

facebook.com

Still no. Now it demands I sign up for Faceplant.

Instead, I will leave the weirdest ice cream advert I’ve seen:

Halo Top - Eat the Ice Cream

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 4:03:12am

Luis M. is near Jose and Ivan, showing some of the damage outside his place:

I presume he must be waiting for the back eyewall.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 20, 2017 • 4:04:40am

re: #271 freetoken

Yikes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 20, 2017 • 4:09:31am

I’m going to hit the rack … .

I hope those in the USVI and PR will be alright.

G’night.

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 4:20:35am

Hard to track the eyewall without the radars.

On satellite it looks like the eye is trying to stay south.

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 4:24:16am

Josh L. looks to be on the NE side of the eye, in some sort of structure:

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 4:29:27am

English speaking Red L. north of the eyewall showing destruction:

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 4:29:46am

Whoops, Red L. just had to take cover.

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 4:31:12am

The ABC7 camera is in the same structure as the CNN camera, in San Juan I think:

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freetoken  Sep 20, 2017 • 4:49:49am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 20, 2017 • 5:11:51am

That can happen when you force yourself to go back to “work” 1 week after giving birth.

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jeffreyw  Sep 20, 2017 • 5:14:00am

Imgur


Good morning!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 5:14:08am

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

That can happen when you force yourself to go back to “work” 1 week after giving birth.

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I do feel bad knowing that but as you get at, she had no problem rushing other new mothers back to work.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 5:15:57am

Man poor Puerto Rico. How awful. TBH I think they should have become a state or independent years ago. The whole having territories and no real plans to let them get statehood is wrong imo.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 20, 2017 • 5:17:03am

re: #282 HappyWarrior

I do feel bad knowing that but as you get at, she had no problem rushing other new mothers back to work.

She used herself as a club: IF I CAN GO BACK TO WORK ONE WEEK AFTER HAVING A BABY EVERYONE ELSE CAN TOO!!!

We need an “Ivanka” font that is all pink and sparkly.

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Teukka  Sep 20, 2017 • 5:25:18am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 5:25:44am

re: #284 The Vicious Babushka

She used herself as a club: IF I CAN GO BACK TO WORK ONE WEEK AFTER HAVING A BABY EVERYONE ELSE CAN TOO!!!

We need an “Ivanka” font that is all pink and sparkly.

She’s disgusting no doubt about it. I agree though. An Ivanka font would be great.

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2017 • 5:38:55am

re: #155 goddamnedfrank

Remember Chad? Well he’s still a fucking idiot.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2017 • 5:46:09am

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

That can happen when you force yourself to go back to “work” 1 week after giving birth.

Women should not be giving birth until they have a husband who can support them staying home full time.

/

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 20, 2017 • 5:48:17am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 5:50:06am

re: #287 Belafon

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I’d like to live in a world where no one wears swastikas. Guess that’s too much to ask Chad for. And he couldn’t be more wrong about BLM.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 20, 2017 • 5:56:40am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2017 • 5:57:04am

re: #290 HappyWarrior

I’d like to live in a world where no one wears swastikas. Guess that’s too much to ask Chad for. And he couldn’t be more wrong about BLM.

Where no one wears them to make a political statement about white supremacy in any case.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 20, 2017 • 5:57:51am

re: #155 goddamnedfrank

Remember Chad? Well he’s still a fucking idiot.

I’d like False Equivalencies for $600, Alex.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 20, 2017 • 5:58:08am

This is insane.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:00:17am

re: #266 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Attack on black student at Cornell probed as possible hate crime, former fraternity house vandalized

More Aryan supermen. The university says that an “un-affiliated fraternity” is responsible. A black student group has named them as Psi Upsilon, suspended in 2016 for various infractions. University president Martha Pollack did say rather pointedly that “Based on what we know, and pending final investigation, Cornell will not consider Psi Upsilon’s reinstatement as an affiliated fraternity,” That means FOREVER, assholes.

They were all a bunch of bad guys. Both sides.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:00:42am

He is Tweeting that crazy account that said “My pussy tastes like pepsi cola”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:01:54am

re: #296 The Vicious Babushka

He is Tweeting that crazy account that said “My pussy tastes like pepsi cola”

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Incredibly.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:03:56am

re: #236 Anymouse 🌹

Dylann Roof says his appeals “should be worked on and written by lawyers with my best interests in mind

What on earth could this dude be appealing?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:04:40am

re: #296 The Vicious Babushka

He is Tweeting that crazy account that said “My pussy tastes like pepsi cola”

Sad

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Bubblehead II  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:07:42am

re: #298 Sir John Barron

What on earth could this dude be appealing?

His death sentence. Also claim his current Lawyers are his religious (political) and biological enemy’s.

The handwritten note goes on to state, “Because of my political views, which are arguably religious, it will be impossible for me to trust two attorneys that are my political and biological enemies.”

* edited for clarity.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:07:44am

re: #296 The Vicious Babushka

He is Tweeting that crazy account that said “My pussy tastes like pepsi cola”

I am sure that Trump has uttered more than once that “My penis tastes like coke!”

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Sir John Barron  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:10:20am

re: #300 Bubblehead II

His death sentence. Also claim his current Lawyers are his religious and biological enemy’s.

Dude, you shot and killed 9 parishioners during Bible study at their church.

If there wasn’t a death penalty already, it would be invented for you.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:12:52am

re: #300 Bubblehead II

The handwritten note goes on to state, “Because of my political views, which are arguably religious, it will be impossible for me to trust two attorneys that are my political and biological enemies.”

Might as well say:

I am the Son of dog, come back to earth to judge all mankind and re-establish the worship of Baal.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:17:45am
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Dave In Austin  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:18:09am

When you get tired of the troll, know there is help right around the corner.

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Bubblehead II  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:19:19am

re: #303 Sir John Barron

Might as well say:

I am the Son of dog, come back to earth to judge all mankind and re-establish the worship of Baal.

The little coward is just trying to stop the inevitable. Though it wouldn’t surprise me in the least bit to see tRump commute his sentence to life without parole while citing Pres. Obama commuting Chelsea Manning’s sentence to time served as a precedent.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:19:35am

re: #101 goddamnedfrank

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:20:02am

Here’s that account that praises Trump and then posts this shit:

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unproven innocence  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:20:33am

re: #302 Sir John Barron

Dude, you shot and killed 9 parishioners during Bible study at their church.

If there wasn’t a death penalty already, it would be invented for you.

Nope.
Ex post facto laws are expressly forbidden by the United States Constitution in Article 1, Section 9, Clause 3 (with respect to federal laws) and Article 1, Section 10 (with respect to state laws).

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:20:51am

re: #304 The Vicious Babushka

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It’s kind of like when they attacked Obama for the using the n-word. Did Joe or the morons at F&F never learn a little thing called context? I mean I get what F&F is trying to do, they willingly spread misinformation because they’re nothing but a propaganda show for Trump to get his daily misinformatio.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:23:17am

re: #310 HappyWarrior

It’s kind of like when they attacked Obama for the using the n-word. Did Joe or the morons at F&F never learn a little thing called context? I mean I get what F&F is trying to do, they willingly spread misinformation because they’re nothing but a propaganda show for Trump to get his daily misinformatio.

When did Obama use the n-word? Did he say something like “Saying [the n-word] is bad, mmkay”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:25:57am

re: #311 The Vicious Babushka

When did Obama use the n-word? Did he say something like “Saying [the n-word] is bad, mmkay”

cnn.com

Yep, pretty much.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:27:26am

Well. So today is the eve of Rosh Hashanah. Even though I am working a full day (from home, in a wheelchair) I still have to make:

1. The Brisket
2. Roast chicken (in case we get bored of brisket)
3. Sides? (Haven’t decided on sides)
4. Baked Salmon

Already made:
The Apple Strudel
The Challah
The Chicken Soup & matzo balls

It’s Z’s responsibility to make the gefilte fish.

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makeitstop  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:28:14am

Mueller is treating Trump like a boss - a mob boss.

Bonanno, Gambino…Trump?

The first two are recognizable as bosses of the notorious Five Families, as the leading organized crime outfits of New York and other areas of the country were once known, and the third obviously belongs to the president of the United States and his famous New York real estate family. Other than location, location and location, the three names also have something else in common: aggressive federal investigations.

At least that’s the analogy made by one former federal prosecutor and current law professor in describing the tactics undertaken by special counsel Robert Mueller as he delves into Russia’s alleged collusion with the Trump campaign last year, as well as into the president’s finances.

“They seem to be pursuing this more aggressively, taking a much harder line, than you’d expect to see in a typical white-collar case,” Notre Dame professor Jimmy Gurulé told The New York Times. “This is more consistent with how you’d go after an organized crime syndicate.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:28:42am

re: #313 The Vicious Babushka

Well. So today is the eve of Rosh Hashanah. Even though I am working a full day (from home, in a wheelchair) I still have to make:

1. The Brisket
2. Roast chicken (in case we get bored of brisket)
3. Sides? (Haven’t decided on sides)
4. Baked Salmon

Already made:
The Apple Strudel
The Challah
The Chicken Soup & matzo balls

It’s Z’s responsibility to make the gefilte fish.

How about some kind of starch for the sides? All sounds delicious.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:29:19am

re: #314 makeitstop

Mueller is treating Trump like a boss - a mob boss.

Next Fox & Friends/Morning Joe: Is Mueller going beyond the limits of his authority?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:30:18am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:31:14am

re: #316 Sir John Barron

Next Fox & Friends/Morning Joe: Is Mueller going beyond the limits of his authority?

then Trump’s Twitter “A lot of people are saying Mueller’s abusing his authority.”

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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:31:40am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

Puerto Rico is getting slammed by Maria. Mexico is picking up the pieces after a major quake hit Mexico City on the 32nd anniversary of a major quake that devastated the city. There are hundreds of casualties and collapsed structures throughout the region, and it could have been so much worse had the country not enacted stringent building codes after the earlier quake.

Rescue and relief efforts are underway there, but Puerto Rico’s got to wait out the storm before they can begin to assess the damage.

So of course Trump’s got to be busy tweeting about ratings and show that he knows nothing about how insurance works as the GOP rushes to try and destroy Medicaid so that they can ultimately use the money to force massive tax cuts that benefit the rich and shift the burdens to everyone else:

Graham Cassidy is a huge mess, and the GOP is resorting to the standard issue lie. They just lie about what it does, and the consequences.

There’s a reason they’re rushing this bill through without full CBO scoring - because they know it’d fail miserably, and it would cause untold misery for all Americans as protections for preexisting conditions disappear and people see their premiums spike. It also hurts the states that did the most to help their residents by expanding coverage and shifting a portion to those that didn’t (redistributing wealth from mostly blue states to red ones), but skimming money so that they can use it for tax cuts later.

It’s a mess, but Trump will push this even though Trump said he’d want a plan that covers more people at better cost. He wants a win, and doesn’t care what he signs.

GOP governors whose states expanded coverage are against this bill, because they know it’s a shit show for everyone, but the GOP will play their games in Congress because they’re insulated from the consequences. They’re just following the dictum from the GOP extremist base that wants to eliminate Obamacare.

Here’s a pro-tip: repeal the name Obamacare and rename it Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.*

PPACA is the official name, but the GOP wouldn’t stop calling it Obamacare so the name stuck.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:31:44am

re: #317 The Vicious Babushka

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Does Rand Paul know he’s Trump’s friend?

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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:32:44am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:32:53am

re: #315 HappyWarrior

How about some kind of starch for the sides? All sounds delicious.

Well usually for holidays I make potato kugel but that’s really more work than I want to do from a wheelchair.

Maybe baked sweet potatoes with just a drizzle of olive oil and honey.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:34:14am

re: #321 lawhawk

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It’s stupid and immature. Plus calling Kim “Rocket Man” is going to settle the situation at all. And secondly Huckabee-Sanders should get off Fox and Friends.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:35:34am

re: #322 The Vicious Babushka

Well usually for holidays I make potato kugel but that’s really more work than I want to do from a wheelchair.

Maybe baked sweet potatoes with just a drizzle of olive oil and honey.

Yeah, the baked sweet potatoes sounds delicious. Never have had Potato Kugel before. Need to try it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:40:39am

re: #324 HappyWarrior

Yeah, the baked sweet potatoes sounds delicious. Never have had Potato Kugel before. Need to try it.

Ever had potato pancakes? Same method of preparation, just baked in a pan instead of fried in a skillet.

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ObserverArt  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:41:39am

re: #304 The Vicious Babushka

Media Matters ✔ @mmfa
Fox & Friends, Morning Joe equate Obama arguing against annihilating North Korea with Trump’s threat to do it mm4a.org
9:16 AM - Sep 20, 2017

I’m seeing stuff elsewhere with guys getting their warrior on.

It appears many Americans are just fine with total destruction of North Korea.

Some choice comments are things like how fast we can do this. Would you believe one single day? And China probably won’t care. Oh, really?

Also Russia won’t care. No they won’t, things are going swimmingly for them making the U.S. number 1 hated country in the World. Just little side benefits of fucking with our election and getting The Don in.

Sure am glad America voted for the Jobs President and not for that evil NeoCon Clinton.

Fuck. Sorry world. We are losing it here. Send help!

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:41:40am

re: #316 Sir John Barron

Next Fox & Friends/Morning Joe: Is Mueller going beyond the limits of his authority?

Fox & Friends: Various blogs, even some liberal ones, are raising this question.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:41:58am

re: #325 The Vicious Babushka

Ever had potato pancakes? Same method of preparation, just baked in a pan instead of fried in a skillet.

Yep. Good to know that though. I love potato pancakes. We have them every year at the Slavic festival. I like mine with Applesauce.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:42:24am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:43:06am

re: #329 The Vicious Babushka

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It may be even worse than what was proposed before.

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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:43:10am

re: #325 The Vicious Babushka

Ever had potato pancakes? Same method of preparation, just baked in a pan instead of fried in a skillet.

It’s a cassarole Sheila, it’ll stay!

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:43:32am
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Belafon  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:43:41am

re: #330 HappyWarrior

It may be even worse than what was proposed before.

It is.

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:44:42am

re: #329 The Vicious Babushka

Men never have to deal with the cost of childbirth. “I love you, Dear, but it’s your child, and your bill.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:44:51am

re: #330 HappyWarrior

It may be even worse than what was proposed before.

Which is why it has a better chance of passing…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:46:43am

re: #331 lawhawk

It’s a cassarole Sheila, it’ll stay!

Funny story about potato pancakes though, my one brother must have tried latkes at a school event that had Jewish food so he asked my grandmother to make some potato pancakes. Grandma’s familiar with making them since well we eat a lot of potato pancakes in Rusyn-American cuisine too. She makes them and then he decides he’s not hungry. Needless to say, she wasn’t too happy about that. What do you guys like your potato pancakes with? I’m all about apple sauce. I’ve been meaning to try them with horse radish though. My cousin suggested it. Ketchup is good too. I don’t mind them with sour cream but I like sour cream more with baked potatoes.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:47:01am

re: #334 Belafon

Men never have to deal with the cost of childbirth. “I love you, Dear, but it’s your child, and your bill.”

Somebody owes me four refunds.

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ObserverArt  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:47:08am

re: #330 HappyWarrior

It may be even worse than what was proposed before.

No may be about it. It is worse.

I heard one guy say it has all the bad things of the last three attempts plus even more bad.

So, let’s vote for it, eh! Trump needs a win or he may just go a whole year with nothing.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:48:11am

re: #335 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Which is why it has a better chance of passing…

Yes the Rand Paul test which is sort of the opposite of the so called Jimmy Kimmel Test. The Rand Paul test is “Will it make things unaffordable for most Americans? Is it a shit show? Will it get people kicked off their coverage? Will it return things to an even worse state than before?”

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ObserverArt  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:50:26am

re: #336 HappyWarrior

Funny story about potato pancakes though, my one brother must have tried latkes at a school event that had Jewish food so he asked my grandmother to make some potato pancakes. Grandma’s familiar with making them since well we eat a lot of potato pancakes in Rusyn-American cuisine too. She makes them and then he decides he’s not hungry. Needless to say, she wasn’t too happy about that. What do you guys like your potato pancakes with? I’m all about apple sauce. I’ve been meaning to try them with horse radish though. My cousin suggested it. Ketchup is good too. I don’t mind them with sour cream but I like sour cream more with baked potatoes.

My Slovak side of the family liked to have them with homemade tomato soup. A little dunking action by rolling one up. I liked them just out of the pan nice and hot…maybe a little salt.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:52:14am

re: #340 ObserverArt

My Slovak side of the family liked to have them with homemade tomato soup. A little dunking action by rolling one up. I liked them just out of the pan nice and hot…maybe a little salt.

Oooh tomato soup never thought of that. My favorite Slovak/general Central European food is pierogis though. The ones my great aunt and cousins make are awesome. Mrs. T’s though is pretty respectable in her own right though.

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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:52:27am

re: #336 HappyWarrior

I don’t care for sour cream (not big on dairy generally). Apple sauce is preferred, but ketchup will do.

Never thought to use horseradish, but I have siracha, so that’d work too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:53:20am

re: #341 HappyWarrior

Oooh tomato soup never thought of that. My favorite Slovak/general Central European food is pierogis though. The ones my great aunt and cousins make are awesome. Mrs. T’s though is pretty respectable in her own right though.

my mom used to spend every friday evening at the church pinching pierogis for the fish and pierogi dinners

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:53:58am

re: #342 lawhawk

I don’t care for sour cream (not big on dairy generally). Apple sauce is preferred, but ketchup will do.

Never thought to use horseradish, but I have siracha, so that’d work too.

Yeah Sirracha does sound good. If I did that in front of my grandmother, I’d definitely get a look heh.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:54:32am

re: #343 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

my mom used to spend every friday evening at the church pinching pierogis for the fish and pierogi dinners

Ah Fish Fridays, always a good day.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:55:27am

re: #345 HappyWarrior

Ah Fish Fridays, always a good day.

MMmmm,,, Squarefish.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:57:17am

re: #332 The Vicious Babushka

.@POTUS to Jordanian King Abdullah: “You have done an amazing job.”

What’s the King done that was “an amazing job”?

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MsJ  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:58:26am

Here is that GoFundMe campaign I talked about the other day. Please RT if you’re so inclined.

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plansbandc  Sep 20, 2017 • 6:58:45am

re: #118 ipsos

I could buy one and take a picture of it for you if that would help. ; )

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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:01:37am
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Belafon  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:04:44am

re: #348 MsJ

Here is that GoFundMe campaign I talked about the other day. Please RT if you’re so inclined.

I will forward stuff when I get home.

Here’s a challenge for the single-payer-or-bust people (I know none are here): Would it be better for this family if we didn’t do anything until we get single payer, or would incremental, yet more achievable improvements be good?

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MsJ  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:11:35am

re: #351 Belafon

I will forward stuff when I get home.

Here’s a challenge for the single-payer-or-bust people (I know none are here): Would it be better for this family if we didn’t do anything until we get single payer, or would incremental, yet more achievable improvements be good?

Don’t even start me on this bullshit. Do I want single payer? Hell yes, I do. At the cost of people dying to get it? No.

People who are the “well, this will bring forth single payer” completely ignore how many more Americans will have to die before that happens.

Honest to god, I am HAUNTED by this family. I just went into this offering to take their dog, the dog the whole family loves to pieces, and once I found out the extent of the why as to their having to give up this dog, I have not stopped thinking about them. I try to imagine how I would be - and I can’t. I cannot imagine the stress and pain they live with minute by minute.

I am pretty blessed. Ok, a screwed up my knee a couple weeks ago (and went into a pretty bad pity party - and “met” this girl four days later. It’s like the universe was reminding me how good I have it. I have always tried to live my life where I remind myself that no matter how bad something in my life is, others are worse off. Always. This was a reminder to me when I was all feeling sorry for myself because I hurt.

Woe is fucking me.

I hope this family gets the help they need. I literally cry for people I have not yet met (Saturday we are picking up the dog) every single day.

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makeitstop  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:16:30am

Good Manafort thread here.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:18:41am

re: #213 Anymouse 🌹

My wife just looked up state laws regarding credit freezes in this state. The maximum a credit agency is allowed to charge is $3. I think it’s worth $12 to freeze all four agencies (and probably leave them that way).

There are five agencies. The fifth is Sagestream LLC.

For what it’s worth, an Evil Banker I know has told me that the internal memos he’s received suggest that the stolen information will be used for phishing attacks more than anything else.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:19:15am

re: #347 Sir John Barron

What’s the King done that was “an amazing job”?

Trump got him mixed up with Frederick Douglass. It’s a common mistake that anybody would make. //

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:19:50am

Cheeto blames the Clintons for the terrible reviews he got for his UN show.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:21:16am

“Allowing” NK to build nukes? Since when do we have the right to dictate to sovereign states what they can do?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:23:27am

Always whining.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:23:41am

This scumbag is probably celebrating the deaths in the Mexican Earthquake.

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MsJ  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:25:19am

re: #356 The Vicious Babushka

Cheeto blames the Clintons for the terrible reviews he got for his UN show.

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No wonder he is such a dumbass. There’s no space in his thick skull because the Clinton’s and Obama’s reside there.

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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:25:49am

re: #353 makeitstop

There is no statute of limitations for civil fraud on IRS filings. If the IRS finds it at any time, they can go back and get you.

Also, the 6 year SOL for criminal fraud can be tolled by other activities such as actions to conceal the fraud.

Say Manafort committed the fraud in 2011. He had until October 15, 2011 to make a proper filing via auto extension. However, he continued to perpetuate the fraud into 2012, 2013, and 2014. Each of those years also contained elements to conceal the earlier fraud. That would allow the IRS to extend the fraud charge to October 15, 2020 because they tolled the statute of limitations.

October 15 makes sense if they don’t have anything to toll the statute of limitations; without more I can’t assess whether they do or not.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:25:58am

re: #359 DodgerFan1988

This scumbag is probably celebrating the deaths in the Mexican Earthquake.

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She’s such an evil bitch.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:26:47am

re: #360 MsJ

No wonder he is such a dumbass. There’s no space in his thick skull because the Clinton’s and Obama’s reside there.

Nothing happened between 2001 and 2009.

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ObserverArt  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:27:47am

Hey Donny dumbass. China.

They have the tech and the toys. North Korea could have gotten to this point with China’s help in say 8 months or less. Just borrow some toys to play with to get Trump to do something stupid and make the US the asshole of the world. It has nothing to do with Clinton or others.

Think of the benefits to China, Russia and others with Trump doing all he is doing.

Sure is Making America Great Again.

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:28:05am

re: #357 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Allowing” NK to build nukes? Since when do we have the right to dictate to sovereign states what they can do?

I bet that, somehow, Trump won’t accept blame for the continuing research NK is doing right now.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:29:17am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:30:06am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:31:38am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:32:51am

re: #367 The Vicious Babushka

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This isn’t a bad thing.

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:33:06am

re: #367 The Vicious Babushka

Works for me.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:33:07am

re: #367 The Vicious Babushka

OK

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:33:36am

re: #368 GlutenFreeJesus

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We’ll fly you to the city whose values we love to crap on!

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makeitstop  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:35:15am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:35:59am

re: #368 GlutenFreeJesus

That…….thing….is not a pizza.

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ObserverArt  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:41:36am

re: #374 Dr Lizardo

That…….thing….is not a pizza.

I know what it looks like though.

Let’s just say it could be quickly recycled pizza.

Does Trump Tower actually have business in their restaurant (s)? Considering New York, I’m thinking actual New York people do not go there unless they absolutely have to for a dinner, meeting, etc. Not by choice.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:43:23am

re: #375 ObserverArt

I know what it looks like though.

Let’s just say it could be quickly recycled pizza.

Does Trump Tower actually have business in their restaurant (s)? Considering New York, I’m thinking actual New York people do not go there unless they absolutely have to for a dinner, meeting, etc. Not by choice.

Considering all the dining possibilities in NYC, Trump Tower would be the last place I’d go unless I had to go there for a business meeting, etc.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:44:54am

re: #376 Dr Lizardo

Considering all the dining possibilities in NYC, Trump Tower would be the last place I’d go unless I had to go there for a business meeting, etc.

I’d rather go to McDonalds. Food is probably better and at least better priced.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 7:46:08am

re: #373 makeitstop

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This is the usual.

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makeitstop  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:04:19am

re: #376 Dr Lizardo

Considering all the dining possibilities in NYC, Trump Tower would be the last place I’d go unless I had to go there for a business meeting, etc.

Considering the literally thousands of good to great restaurants around the city, I wouldn’t walk within a block of that place. Stacked up against the restaurants of New York City, Trump’s joint is, to put it gently, sub-standard.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:08:21am

re: #4 Belafon

Aziraphale and Crowley:

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Looks more like the Doctor in disguise than Crowley.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:09:32am
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Interesting Times  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:16:27am

re: #381 The Vicious Babushka

I’m glad he highlighted the pertinent parts, so someone who merely skims the chart is most likely to pick up on them. It’s consistent with the article I posted the other day, on how to refute myths without accidentally reinforcing them (tl;dr version: make the facts you WANT people to remember stand out, not the myth’s phrasing)

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:17:32am

Coming over the wires that boxerJake LaMotta (immortalized by Robert DeNiro in Raging Bull) has passed away.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:18:13am
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MsJ  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:19:13am

McCain is taking calls from throughout the US now. You know what to do.

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MsJ  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:20:53am

re: #384 Dave In Austin

OMG! That twitter handle. I am dying!!!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:21:19am

re: #383 Dr Lizardo

Coming over the wires that boxerJake LaMotta (immortalized by Robert DeNiro in Raging Bull) has passed away.

Great movie.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:22:27am

I like how Trump just shits on the Clintons. Ignoring that there was another President in between Bill’s time as POTUS and Hillary’s time as SOS. Who might that be.

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gocart mozart  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:23:28am
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ObserverArt  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:27:57am

re: #385 MsJ

McCain is taking calls from throughout the US now. You know what to do.

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Just called his DC office.

I now have a script for these calls. Makes it easy to be precise and quick.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:31:12am

re: #389 gocart mozart

They are broadcasting to people who believe that Satan is real and a threat to America and its God-given President.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:33:33am

re: #391 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are broadcasting to people who believe that Satan is real and a threat to America and its God-given President.

Also, people who believe Wicca (an entirely modern and syncretic religion dating from the first half of the 20th Century) is some kind of existential threat to the USA.

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ObserverArt  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:35:06am

re: #392 Dr Lizardo

Also, people who believe Wicca (an entirely modern and syncretic religion dating from the first half of the 20th Century) is some kind of existential threat to the USA.

Wait…how many existential threats do we have now?

I need a scorecard.

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:36:33am

re: #393 ObserverArt

Wait…how many existential threats do we have now?

I need a scorecard.

One. But I think you’re talking about how many those who support the existential threat think there are. (Yes, I know you are.)

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MsJ  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:38:31am

re: #393 ObserverArt

Wait…how many existential threats do we have now?

I need a scorecard.

Here’s how to determine if you’re an existential threat:

1. Are you a Republican or right-wing authoritarian? YES NO

YES? Congratulations, you are NOT an existential threat. You’re good.

NO? You’re an existential threat.

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electrotek  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:40:11am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:42:39am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:42:49am

Also, in regard to Wicca, a lot of its ideas stemmed from Margaret Murray’s now-discredited “Witch-cult in Western Europe” hypothesis.

It’s an interesting idea, to be sure…..and not even remotely supported by any historical evidence. Fun read though.

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ipsos  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:43:43am

re: #349 plansbandc

DAMN YOU!

//

(and now I am even MOAR hungry)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:44:37am

re: #397 The Vicious Babushka

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War on history? Rich considering how conservatives want to rewrite what the CSA actually was.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:44:57am

re: #396 electrotek

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JFC.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:45:26am

re: #397 The Vicious Babushka

OP-ED: Why the left’s war on history will fail

Just tiding us over until the War on Christmas picks up steam…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:45:59am

re: #398 Dr Lizardo

Also, in regard to Wicca, a lot of its ideas stemmed from Margaret Murray’s now-discredited “Witch-cult in Western Europe” hypothesis.

It’s an interesting idea, to be sure…..and not even remotely supported by any historical evidence. Fun read though.

And Burning Man is seen as a modern manifestation of it.

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William Lewis  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:45:59am

re: #397 The Vicious Babushka

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Ah, but they don’t care about truth.

Fox’s demographic lost in 1865, 1945 & in 1965 (when the Civil Rights Act was passed) and all they care about is winning now so they can put those people (anything other than rich white protestant males and their personal property family. ) back in their places.

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meteor  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:50:33am

re: #359 DodgerFan1988

What a fucking asshole.

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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:55:47am
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gocart mozart  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:57:33am

re: #160 Kragar

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Alephnaught  Sep 20, 2017 • 8:59:04am

re: #84 Birth Control Works

Cuteness Break (courtesy of GGT’s Image Library Archives)

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Reminds of this video for 80s/90s indie band Kitchens of Distinction.

Kitchens Of Distinction - Elephantine

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:04:07am

re: #407 gocart mozart

I want to live in a world where ppl wearing swastikas or rainbows or Black Power shirts can coexist without physically attacking each other.

physically attacking is a key word here: We should never stop attacking Nazis and White Supremacists - verbally and in the media

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electrotek  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:06:59am

Doubt they would be opposed to attacking Islamists of the Anjem Choudary and Omar Bakri variety.

So why demand co-existence with Nazis?

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gocart mozart  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:07:04am

re: #202 JordanRules

FYI: George Lincoln Rockwell leader of the American Nazi Party

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:11:07am

re: #411 gocart mozart

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FYI: George Lincoln Rockwell leader of the American Nazi Party

He has a pipe. Must be fatherly!

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Weaselone  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:13:10am

re: #409 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

physically attacking is a key word here: We should never stop attacking Nazis and White Supremacists - verbally and in the media

In the world he describes nobody would ever wear a swastika and the other two symbols would be anachronisms, worn as a tribute to those who fought and secured a better world if not for themselves then for their children.

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ObserverArt  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:18:36am

re: #407 gocart mozart

Chad Felix Greene ✔ @chadfelixg
I want to live in a world where ppl wearing swastikas or rainbows or Black Power shirts can coexist without physically attacking each other.

So, from Chad’s twitter page I see he wrote a book titled Reasonably Gay.

I think Chad is confused. A lot.

I am getting the impression a lot of folk have lived in a very protective cocoon.

Looks like the real life lessons are about to be learned.

Good luck Chad and others that seem so naive. I hope you make it.

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makeitstop  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:22:28am

re: #411 gocart mozart

FYI: George Lincoln Rockwell leader of the American Nazi Party

AKA Nazi Bob Dobbs.

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EPR-radar  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:28:38am

re: #414 ObserverArt

So, from Chad’s twitter page I see he wrote a book titled Reasonably Gay.

I think Chad is confused. A lot.

I am getting the impression a lot of folk have lived in a very protective cocoon.

Looks like the real life lessons are about to be learned.

Good luck Chad and others that seem so naive. I hope you make it.

This Chad idiot is a RWNJ. No naiveté here. Another of his books is apparently There is No Such Thing as Hate Speech.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:29:01am

Ammosexuals in Austin……. Oh, and a bakery.

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electrotek  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:30:02am

Methinks this Dreher guy needs to get laid:

Facebook Post

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Dave In Austin  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:31:29am
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:35:36am

What a sick strategy.

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MsJ  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:36:04am

re: #419 Dave In Austin

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MsJ  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:37:44am

re: #420 goddamnedfrank

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:38:35am
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MsJ  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:39:01am

Where is that damned Endless Screaming thing? I am endlessly screaming these days.

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stpaulbear  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:39:26am

re: #416 EPR-radar

This Chad idiot is a RWNJ. No naiveté here. Another of his books is apparently There is No Such Thing as Hate Speech.

‘Reasonably Gay’ is four separate volumes of ‘essays and arguments’. Here how he describes his writing in his Amazon blurb:

I am a gay conservative and I think it’s time you met me. There seems to be a lot of confusion as to what being on the right side of the political spectrum means in general, but certainly if you happen to be gay.

This is a collection of essays and arguments, articles and personal stories, from my own life and experience in the political world. Through looking at topical discussion and objective observation I have attempted to provide a different perspective on issues many believe they are familiar with. The truth is often surprising and the reality often uncomfortable, but I am always honest.

These writings span several years of thought, reaction and introspection with many published and others seen for the first time here. While the primary topic of discussion revolves around my personal area of strength, LGBT issues, many others delve into the world of conservative thought and insight on other topics.

but enough about me…

And, yeah, as EPR-radar noted, he’s clueless enough to write a book called There is No Such Thing as Hate Speech. LGBT issues are not his personal area of strength.

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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:40:42am

re: #423 goddamnedfrank

Seems like he’s actually making a pitch for the right wing extremist/quiverful argument that whites think they’re being bred out of existence.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:43:03am
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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:50:22am
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sagehen  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:50:41am

re: #334 Belafon

Men never have to deal with the cost of childbirth. “I love you, Dear, but it’s your child, and your bill.”

I got pregnant by osmosis, he had nothing to do with it.

//

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ObserverArt  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:51:53am

re: #416 EPR-radar

This Chad idiot is a RWNJ. No naiveté here. Another of his books is apparently There is No Such Thing as Hate Speech.

And that is not naive???

Maybe we are using different definitions.

I’m gonna go with the one that shows up at Google.

Naive: (of a person or action) showing a lack of experience, wisdom, or judgment.
Exmpl: “the rather naive young man had been totally misled”

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EPR-radar  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:53:35am

re: #425 stpaulbear

As ever, gay conservatives in the US are crazier than shithouse rats.

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gocart mozart  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:55:36am

re: #236 Anymouse 🌹

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MsJ  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:55:53am

Things that make you go hmmmm..

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electrotek  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:56:13am

re: #431 EPR-radar

As ever, gay conservatives in the US are crazier than shithouse rats.

Crazier than gay conservatives in France, Germany, and the Netherlands?

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EPR-radar  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:56:15am

re: #430 ObserverArt

And that is not naive???

Maybe we are using different definitions.

I’m gonna go with the one that shows up at Google.

Naive: (of a person or action) showing a lack of experience, wisdom, or judgment.
Exmpl: “the rather naive young man had been totally misled”

Naive has strong connotations of being innocently duped rather than being willfully evil.

No gay conservative in the US is an innocent dupe. They all know that many in the US right want to see non-straights dead, and delude themselves one way or another that they personally aren’t in danger of being the star player in an auto da fe.

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MsJ  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:57:22am

Forgive me…I need a laugh.

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EPR-radar  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:57:39am

re: #434 electrotek

Crazier than gay conservatives in France, Germany, and the Netherlands?

They are probably crazy too, but when I make blanket statements like this I try to stick close to my personal experience from living in the US.

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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2017 • 9:57:40am

re: #435 EPR-radar

Auto da fe. It’s what you oughtn’t do, but you do anyways.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:00:15am
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retired cynic  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:03:20am

re: #420 goddamnedfrank

What a sick strategy.

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The Brexit Strategy.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:03:35am

re: #439 Ace-o-aces

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Yep they like to talk about mental health after mass shootings because it gives them an image of of caring about mental illness but conservatives haven’t given a shit about the mentally ill since at least the Reagan years.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:05:21am
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:06:00am

re: #300 Bubblehead II

The handwritten note goes on to state, “Because of my political views, which are arguably religious, it will be impossible for me to trust two attorneys that are my political and biological enemies.”

His “views” would surely make the vast majority of attorneys his “political enemies.” Maybe one of those prominent conservative lawyers will agree to defend him pro bono — but even they would be unlikely to admit to holding the same racist attitudes as he does.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:07:53am

re: #442 The Vicious Babushka

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Say what you will about the Cossacks but their beards were awesome.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:09:28am

re: #438 lawhawk

Auto da fe. It’s what you oughtn’t do, but you do anyways.

See what you made me do!

The Spanish Inquisition

“Torquemada, do not implore him for compassion. Torquemada, do not beg him for forgiveness. Torquemada, do not ask him for mercy. Let’s face it - you can’t talk him outta anything!”

I showed that to a student - she was horrified. She couldn’t understand for the life of her how someone could make it the subject of parody.

Then I showed her “Springtime for Hitler.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:10:31am

How the hell can you compare teaching responsible sex and drug use to the KKK? One is something yeah you can easily be responsible with. The other is a domestic terrorist organization that has you know murdered and terrorized thousands of people in the last 150 years.

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sagehen  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:11:15am

re: #444 HappyWarrior

Say what you will about the Cossacks but their beards were awesome.

And their horses were very well-trained.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:16:05am

re: #447 sagehen

And their horses were very well-trained.

And they made good vodka.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:16:33am

Looks like Rick is trying to put together a production. Thread.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:16:53am
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makeitstop  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:19:19am

re: #433 MsJ

Things that make you go hmmmm..

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Put him on the witness list.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:20:16am

Authentic wingnut gibberish from a Texas school district:
Pledge controversy deemed misunderstanding

Juniors and seniors were given a presentation on the Pledge of Allegiance, with a slide saying it’s the law to stand during the pledge and stay silent during the moment of silence.

It’s not the law. In fact, a 1943 Supreme Court ruling in West Virginia protects students from having to stand during the pledge.

MISD representatives said it was a misunderstanding in context, but that’s not how students saw it.

“They shouldn’t enforce it like that, because now people think it’s the law,” said Damien Jurado.

“I feel like everybody should stand,” commented Edgar Ruiz.

Midland ISD’s Woodrow Bailey added that if students wish not to participate, their parents can fill out a form to remove them during the pledge.

Seems pretty clear to me:

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ObserverArt  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:26:08am

re: #435 EPR-radar

Naive has strong connotations of being innocently duped rather than being willfully evil.

No gay conservative in the US is an innocent dupe. They all know that many in the US right want to see non-straights dead, and delude themselves one way or another that they personally aren’t in danger of being the star player in an auto da fe.

Delusion in a way is a symptom of being naive. You are lacking so much that you form delusional thoughts like “all of our enemies can have a big ol’ group hug.”

By the way I agree with you. I just don’t think naivety is always innocent. I think some people work their way into the state by ignorance and other methods. Note that Google definition also covers a lack of judgment. That also isn’t always innocent.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:26:47am

re: #450 The Vicious Babushka

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DAYUM

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:28:09am

re: #450 The Vicious Babushka

I have a friend who lives there, they still (or did as of a little while ago) have cell service. He’s been posting updates on facebook. According to him San Juan was spared a bit, the rest not so much.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:28:34am

re: #445 Dr Lizardo

See what you made me do!

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“Torquemada, do not implore him for compassion. Torquemada, do not beg him for forgiveness. Torquemada, do not ask him for mercy. Let’s face it - you can’t talk him outta anything!”

I showed that to a student - she was horrified. She couldn’t understand for the life of her how someone could make it the subject of parody.

Then I showed her “Springtime for Hitler.”

It’s a Mel Brooks desert out there. I could use a couple of full evenings of Brooks and Python.

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MsJ  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:30:21am

Shocked. Not shocked.

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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:31:07am

re: #457 MsJ

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Kragar  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:31:46am

re: #457 MsJ

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:31:47am

re: #368 GlutenFreeJesus

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MsJ  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:35:04am

Sigh.

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wrenchwench  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:40:04am

Together at last.

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retired cynic  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:40:49am

This article, about a Swedish man going undercover in the US alt-right, is worth reading, along with the comments!

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sagehen  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:40:54am

re: #460 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Yes, that is what he’ll serve.

And he’ll expect you to eat it with a knife and fork.

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makeitstop  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:44:16am

re: #461 MsJ

There is meddling in Germany’s election — not by Russia, but by U.S. right wing

I guess whatever deal Trump made included a free copy of the Putin playbook.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:44:27am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:45:55am

re: #463 retired cynic

This article, about a Swedish man going undercover in the US alt-right, is worth reading, along with the comments!

Fascinating read.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:46:11am

re: #466 Dave In Austin

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Oh Sheriff Baby is mad.

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:46:15am

re: #466 Dave In Austin

Clarke’s put that goat through a lot. It doesn’t deserve any more scorn.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:48:23am

re: #466 Dave In Austin

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Aw, little Trump asskisser has a sad…

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MsJ  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:50:38am

re: #463 retired cynic

This article, about a Swedish man going undercover in the US alt-right, is worth reading, along with the comments!

Wow. Thank you for that. It is fascinating.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:51:44am

re: #471 MsJ

Wow. Thank you for that. It is fascinating.

Kid has balls to do what he did.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:52:49am
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Kragar  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:53:50am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:53:53am

re: #473 FormerDirtDart

“Nambia”…….that tiny little parcel between Namibia and Zambia, perhaps? LOLOL Trump’s just talking out of his ass as usual.

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makeitstop  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:54:36am

re: #468 HappyWarrior

Oh Sheriff Baby is mad.

Anger management courses are in order.

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Skip Intro  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:55:40am

re: #474 Kragar

The Golden Rule has always been “he who has the gold makes the rules”.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:57:17am

It’s really scary how open these people are about their desires for a fascist state.

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Kragar  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:57:48am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:58:44am

re: #368 GlutenFreeJesus

Is that really a picture of tr*mp tower pizza? In NYC? That is one ugly looking piece of trash.

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sagehen  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:59:06am

re: #475 Dr Lizardo

“Nambia”…….that tiny little parcel between Namibia and Zambia, perhaps? LOLOL Trump’s just talking out of his ass as usual.

It’s a province of Narnia.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 20, 2017 • 10:59:57am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:00:05am

What I find myself worried about is that most young right wingers are more closer to the alt-right than they are a sensible center right. So, what happens as they get older and more and more of them enter elected politics? I have a feeling we’re going to see people in our legislatures and eventually Congress who were directly associated with Spencer or maybe even Spencer himself.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:00:24am

re: #467 HappyWarrior

Fascinating read.

Odinism and pseudo-Viking rituals are a peculiar feature of these groups. It’s a cult, really.

The original Vikings were not so caught up in their own racial superiority, I think.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:00:31am

re: #481 sagehen

It’s a province of Narnia.

Mmmmm Turkish Delight.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:01:00am

re: #484 wheat-dogg

Odinism and pseudo-Viking rituals are a peculiar feature of these groups. It’s a cult, really.

The original Vikings were not so caught up in their own racial superiority, I think.

The original Vikings as I recall were actually a pretty diverse bunch and pretty egalitarian towards women for their time too.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:01:39am

re: #480 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Is that really a picture of tr*mp tower pizza? In NYC? That is one ugly looking piece of trash.

It makes Domino’s look like some kind of artisan-style pizza.

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:04:28am

re: #483 HappyWarrior

What I find myself worried about is that most young right wingers are more closer to the alt-right than they are a sensible center right. So, what happens as they get older and more and more of them enter elected politics? I have a feeling we’re going to see people in our legislatures and eventually Congress who were directly associated with Spencer or maybe even Spencer himself.

Make sure your sample is random. The loud young conservatives are pretty much the definition of winger. Many more conservatives are just quiet. Kind of like the older generations. They’re enablers for sure, but they’re the kind that basically have their single issue and as long as nothing else affects them, they aren’t paying that much attention.

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MsJ  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:05:17am

re: #472 HappyWarrior

Kid has balls to do what he did.

Balls of freaking reinforced steel. I kept thinking that when I read the article.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:05:53am

re: #486 HappyWarrior

The original Vikings as I recall were actually a pretty diverse bunch and pretty egalitarian towards women for their time too.

They went from raiders to traders, after they realized there were more benefits in occupying an area than in stealing from it. And they traded with people all over the Mediterranean.

But the Swedish Vikings focused on the lands across the Baltic, where they eventually established the colony of Rus.

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stpaulbear  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:06:20am

re: #475 Dr Lizardo

“Nambia”…….that tiny little parcel between Namibia and Zambia, perhaps? LOLOL Trump’s just talking out of his ass as usual.

It’s next door to Pambia.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:06:42am

re: #488 Belafon

Make sure your sample is random. The loud young conservatives are pretty much the definition of winger. Many more conservatives are just quiet. Kind of like the older generations. They’re enablers for sure, but they’re the kind that basically have their single issue and as long as nothing else affects them, they aren’t paying that much attention.

True that’s a fair point. But enablers aren’t leaders. I’m not talking about the base so much as future leadership. It is true in a sense that this is their rebellion. This is their way of saying FU to a society whose President after 9/11 declared we weren’t at war with Muslims. FU to a nation that elected a black man. They’re much like other fascist movements in history. Revolutionary and at the same time reactionary.

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meteor  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:07:24am

re: #480 Colère Tueur de Lapin

He is a disgrace to my beloved hometown. I grew up in Queens and the motherfucker pisses me off.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:07:46am

re: #491 stpaulbear

It’s next door to Pambia.

Just a hop, skip and an jump from The Shire.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:08:16am

re: #484 wheat-dogg

Odinism and pseudo-Viking rituals are a peculiar feature of these groups. It’s a cult, really.

The original Vikings were not so caught up in their own racial superiority, I think.

And they didn’t have a problem with Muslims.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:08:17am

re: #489 MsJ

Balls of freaking reinforced steel. I kept thinking that when I read the article.

I’d be so nervous wearing that camera on me when he met with all those alt-right people he met. Plus I’d be paranoid about my real identity being discovered. I won’t lie. I’ve thought about checking out their forums and all that to see what they’re all about. My one brother sort of did and told me it’s a bunch of people who really think they’re hot shit simply because they’re white.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:09:05am

re: #490 wheat-dogg

They went from raiders to traders, after they realized there were more benefits in occupying an area than in stealing from it. And they traded with people all over the Mediterranean.

But the Swedish Vikings focused on the lands across the Baltic, where they eventually established the colony of Rus.

That’s right. Smart guys. I probably got some Viking blood.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:10:46am

re: #493 meteor

He is a disgrace to my beloved hometown. I grew up in Queens and the motherfucker pisses me off.

Did you hear about the group that is renting out Trump’s boyhood home as a refugee shelter?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:12:26am

It feels almost like we’re repeating the 1930’s sometimes. The 60’s too.

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makeitstop  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:14:00am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:15:15am

re: #486 HappyWarrior

The original Vikings as I recall were actually a pretty diverse bunch and pretty egalitarian towards women for their time too.

One of the earliest accounts of Viking life was written by a Muslim, Ibn Fadlan.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:15:17am

re: #495 Dave In Austin

And they didn’t have a problem with Muslims.

Excellent trading partners.

Viking settlements and trade routes (Wikimedia Commons)

At the time Muslims controlled all of North Africa, most of the Iberian peninsula, and parts of the Eastern Europe.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:15:56am

re: #501 The Vicious Babushka

One of the earliest accounts of Viking life was written by a Muslim, Ibn Fadlan.

Did not know that. Interesting.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:17:35am

re: #500 makeitstop

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Trump’s slogan should have been MARA.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:20:38am

re: #162 Kragar

A heaping tablespoon of scorn and derision might hopefully get them to STFU in the future

I miss the days when that still worked. Now deplorable people just band together against those who scorn and deride them.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:25:53am

re: #206 Ace-o-aces

Never heard of this Chad guy before. Already hate him.

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Someone else’s reply was better than mine.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:28:47am

re: #236 Anymouse 🌹

This jerk:

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Give him a real biological enemy like smallpox.

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ckkatz  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:33:58am

re: #497 HappyWarrior

That’s right. Smart guys. I probably got some Viking blood.

Supposedly there is evidence that the earliest Vikings were traders, who later went to raiders. According to some academicians, during the first sacking of Lindisfarne the locals at first assumed that the Vikings were there to trade and went down to meet with them.

And it true that the Swedes went east, while the Danes and Norwegians tended to go west.

Another tidbit on the Vikings. (I am listening to the Great Courses lecture series on them right now…), during the Viking raids on Ireland, the transiting Viking raiding parties burned out most of the Pict and Angle-Saxon settlements in the Highlands, opening it up for Gaelic settlement from Ireland.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:38:33am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:41:34am

re: #356 The Vicious Babushka

Cheeto blames the Clintons for the terrible reviews he got for his UN show.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:42:36am

re: #359 DodgerFan1988

This scumbag is probably celebrating the deaths in the Mexican Earthquake.

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ObserverArt  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:44:20am

re: #483 HappyWarrior

What I find myself worried about is that most young right wingers are more closer to the alt-right than they are a sensible center right. So, what happens as they get older and more and more of them enter elected politics? I have a feeling we’re going to see people in our legislatures and eventually Congress who were directly associated with Spencer or maybe even Spencer himself.

And it was not that long ago that many felt racism and bigotry were not as present in the younger people of America that have had people of color, gays and other political thinking as friends, family, coworkers, etc.

What happened?

This is a new social study. Maybe it is just too easy to trigger it in humans. There are appearances and then there is reality.

It appeared you people were more tolerant. Maybe they were just going along for those appearances. Once things like money, threats, etc. enter the picture and people becomes frightened by it all, they just go to standard settings and out comes the scapegoating.

Add in a Trump and the speed increase with the cover he provides.

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ObserverArt  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:47:58am

re: #487 Dr Lizardo

It makes Domino’s look like some kind of artisan-style pizza.

I’ve never seen any kind of a commercial pizza look that bad. Frozen, Cheap Cheap, Chef in a Box, Mom and Pop Shop…nothing. It is a one in a kind ‘pizza.’

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:48:43am

re: #367 The Vicious Babushka

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:49:38am

re: #368 GlutenFreeJesus

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 20, 2017 • 11:54:08am

re: #397 The Vicious Babushka

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The answer is no.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 20, 2017 • 12:00:15pm

re: #424 MsJ

Where is that damned Endless Screaming thing? I am endlessly screaming these days.

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