The Bob Cesca Show: Stop the Hammering

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Stop the Hammering: Kimberley Johnson is here; We’re not bleeping the show any more; Not Safe For Work; Lawrence O’Donnell’s totally justifiable freakout; Drudge shared Russian propaganda links; Manafort offered to give Russia oligarch private briefings; Konstantin Kilimnik and the GRU; Mueller requests White House documents; The List of 13 Things Mueller Wants; Russians used Facebook to organize rallies; Buy Bob’s reading of the Steele Dossier via Patreon and Band Camp; and much more.

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228 comments

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Stanley Sea  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:04:47pm
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FormerDirtDart  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:07:13pm

“We’ll say it was about adoptions…”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:07:47pm

re: #2 FormerDirtDart

“We’ll say it was about adoptions…”

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Oh… fuck…

That doesn’t look good.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:10:13pm
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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:10:30pm

That should make that dotard pucker a bit.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:10:33pm

re: #3 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh… fuck…

That doesn’t look good.

I think the term is “ongoing conspiracy”

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Kragar  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:11:17pm
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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:12:02pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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What is there to know about agriculture? Plant it, water it, pick it.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:12:22pm

re: #6 FormerDirtDart

I think the term is “ongoing conspiracy”

And if it’s aboard Air Force One, it’s got to be a person or persons very, very close to Trump. Things are looking very much not good.

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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:12:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:12:27pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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Hope the rural voters who supported him are happy.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:13:03pm

re: #6 FormerDirtDart

I think the term is “ongoing conspiracy”

Man that sure is going to be an awkward moment when Donald asks Kim for asylum.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:13:10pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

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The right had a mind and soul?

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Skip Intro  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:13:35pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Did they all sign NDAs with him when they worked on his campaign?

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allegro  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:13:49pm

re: #9 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And if it’s aboard Air Force One, it’s got to be a person or persons very, very close to Trump. Things are looking very much not good.

I rather think they are looking marvelous.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:14:16pm

re: #12 b.d. (bill d.)

Man that sure is going to be an awkward moment when Donald asks Kim for asylum.

//

Hey, so, I know I totally threatened to roast your fat ass with nuclear fire, but, heh heh, I was totally just joking… Can I sleep over for a few decades?

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:14:19pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

I wrote to my regional newspaper when he put up a wingnut radio host as chief scientist for the USDA. I noted that would be a disaster for Nebraska agriculture.

The newspaper had printed their monthly liberal letter to the editor though, so they did not print mine - even on a day where they had no letters at all.

I went through the last thread before logging in, reading about this “Rock” guy and why I must be living under one if I don’t know who he is.

I wrote a scathing response, but instead I’ll just leave it aside. That pretty much looked like a mini-flame war (a candle war?) between two people I probably am better off to stay out of.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:14:26pm

re: #7 Kragar

Jesus, I was just joking the other day about the comedy gap.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:17:39pm

re: #11 HappyWarrior

Hope the rural voters who supported him are happy.

Around here they’re not. It was mostly a case of “he has the (R) beside his name.”

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LastYearsMan  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:18:52pm

“Nice going, ‘tard.”

“Hey, you can’t insult the mentally retarded like that.”

“No, I meant ‘tard’ as in ‘dotard’.”

“Oh, okay. Carry on.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:19:19pm

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹

Around here they’re not. It was mostly a case of “he has the (R) beside his name.”

Good. I hope they are upset because he’s a disaster for everyone rural or urban.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:21:16pm

Aaak. My wife is watching the hundred plus string of videos on YouTube entitled “The Adult Wednesday Addams.” (Those are a bunch of short clips.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:23:06pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

Good. I hope they are upset because he’s a disaster for everyone rural or urban.

I can hope it changes a few minds about just voting for the (R) because the candidate is an (R).

Of course, we only had (R) candidates on the ballot besides Clinton/Kaine and a Libertarian for state treasurer, so there wasn’t much in the way of a choice. We’re primarily a one-party state.

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calochortus  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:24:21pm

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹

I went through the last thread before logging in, reading about this “Rock” guy and why I must be living under one if I don’t know who he is.

I wrote a scathing response, but instead I’ll just leave it aside. That pretty much looked like a mini-flame war (a candle war?) between two people I probably am better off to stay out of.

I read the bit about living under a rock as a joke, myself. I’ll cheerfully confess that I had heard the name, but had no idea who he actually is. We must all have found a pretty big rock to hide under. There seem to be a number of us.

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makeitstop  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:27:09pm

“The Dotard.” I like it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:28:34pm

Mike Cernovich and Alex Jones Think the Deep State is After Them Because They Discuss Pedophilia (goes to Right Wing Watch, more at the link):

On yesterday’s episode of “The Alex Jones Show,” Cernovich accused liberal Hollywood actors of spreading conspiracy theories involving Russian president Vladimir Putin because Putin is opposed to pedophilia.

Cernovich speculated, “What I think is actually going on here is Putin is actually very anti-pedophile and has done a lot of things to fight the -“

Jones interrupted, “Oh no, that’s what it is. There’s a global anti-pedophile network. Now if you’re not for the pedophiles, you’re against them and that’s what it is. And anybody for the deep state is now a pedophile.”

“Deep state is definitely part of the pedophile networks and they are pro-pedophile. There’s no question about it,” Cernovich said.

Cernovich then claimed that Facebook and Google’s lobbying to defeat a bill that would allow state attorneys general and victims of human trafficking to sue websites for not removing content advertising criminal sexual activities such as child prostitution was evidence that the companies are attempting to censor media personalities such as theirs because they discuss pedophilia.

“They’re fighting hard to shut us up because, why?” Cernovich asked. “What is the common theme, Alex?”

“We’re not pedophiles. We’re not psychopaths. We’re not in the psychopath club,” Jones replied.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:29:35pm

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹

Mike Cernovich and Alex Jones Think the Deep State is After Them Because They Discuss Pedophilia (goes to Right Wing Watch, more at the link):

Those dudes are cray cray.

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lawhawk  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:30:48pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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Trump put no talent assclowns in charge of every agency/department, or right wing extremists all with the intent to sabotage and undermine functioning govt.

That’s how you get the Agriculture Dept filled with know-nothing opportunists who have zero experience, a HUD Secretary with zero experience, and HHS Secretary whose idea of public health is gutting public health funding all while fleecing taxpayers with charter flights galore.

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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:35:34pm

Has this been posted…the CNN interview with Spicer?

Anyway, my point for posting it is watch his eyes every time he gets anywhere in or around the words “lie/lying.”

Go to 1:00 and just watch that little bit on lying.

I admit, I am no body language, psychological tells expert but he sure seems to have at least shifty eyes.

Every time…a quick look to his left and away from the questioner.

If a criminal did this shift of the eyes, I think the cops would bring the heat up immediately in any kind of police examination.

Sean Spicer Says He Never “Knowingly” Lied During His Time at the Trump White House

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Kragar  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:35:34pm
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LastYearsMan  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:36:33pm

Anyone as obsessed by kiddy-diddling as Alex Jones is has to have some really really gross skeletons in the closet.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:36:53pm

re: #2 FormerDirtDart

“We’ll say it was about adoptions…”

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I’m guessing it has to do with the drafting of the Don Jr. meeting letter.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:36:54pm
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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:42:52pm

re: #33 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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It probably has been okayed by Washington.

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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:43:16pm

re: #31 LastYearsMan

Anyone as obsessed by kiddy-diddling as Alex Jones is has to have some really really gross skeletons in the closet.

Iframe

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:44:29pm

re: #33 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Diplomatic immunity is such a bitch sometimes.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:47:22pm

re: #27 HappyWarrior

Those dudes are cray cray.

They’re creating a cover story in which everybody that disagrees with them is Ultimate Evil.

That’s not crazy, it’s an effective, if sociopathic, strategy—particularly if you’re setting up a justification for lots of people not getting rights (like, say, Putin is doing using social conservative themes).

It’s not that they’re geniuses, or that this is 4-D chess. But it doesn’t need to be 4-D chess. This is pogrom logic; the rhetorical style of every wife-beater ever. It’s time-tested.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:47:24pm

re: #29 ObserverArt

Has this been posted…the CNN interview with Spicer?

Anyway, my point for posting it is watch his eyes every time he gets anywhere in or around the words “lie/lying.”

Go to 1:00 and just watch that little bit on lying.

I admit, I am no body language, psychological tells expert but he sure seems to have at least shifty eyes.

Every time…a quick look to his left and away from the questioner.

If a criminal did this shift of the eyes, I think the cops would bring the heat up immediately in any kind of police examination.

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The Make America Kittens Again plugin made your post very cute in my browser.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:48:52pm

FDA: Death Wish Coffee Company Recalls Coffee from Stores and On-Line Sellers
(because it will kill you)

fda.gov

Death Wish Coffee Co. (“Death Wish”), the Round Lake, N.Y.-based Coffee producer known for producing the ‘World’s Strongest Coffee’, has initiated a recall its 11-oz Death Wish Nitro Cold Brew cans.

Death Wish in conjunction with an outside Process Authority has determined that the current process could lead to the growth and production of the deadly toxin, botulin, in low acid foods commercialized in reduced oxygen packaging.

Botulism, a potentially fatal form of food poisoning, can cause the following symptoms: general weakness, dizziness, double-vision and trouble with speaking or swallowing. Difficulty in breathing, weakness of other muscles, abdominal distention and constipation may also be common symptoms. People experiencing these problems should seek immediate medical attention.

(more at the link)

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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:50:32pm

re: #38 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The Make America Kittens Again plugin made your post very cute in my browser.

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Looks like the kittehs aren’t buying the not lyin’ either.

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lawhawk  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:52:51pm

re: #39 Anymouse 🌹

But it’s not like government should be involved in health care or public health - or regulating food and drug. ////////////////////////

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:53:50pm

re: #41 lawhawk

But it’s not like government should be involved in health care or public health - or regulating food and drug. ////////////////////////

Well, it would appear the company selected a truthful name for their company, so what’s the problem libtarts?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:54:36pm

Fuck it.

Steak tartare for dinner.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:56:18pm

re: #43 The Ghost of a Flea

Fuck it.

Steak tartare for dinner.

Probably safer than the coffee. (Checks to see what wife bought a the store before sipping my coffee … Yuban … should be okay …)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 5:58:43pm

re: #43 The Ghost of a Flea

Fuck it.

Steak tartare for dinner.

I ate at a Brazilian steakhouse for the first time last night with Mrs. Fish for our ninth wedding anniversary. It was amazeballs.

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Belafon  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:02:25pm

From Balloon Juice:

Surprisingly, that’s not the worst story they found for today: balloon-juice.com. I’ll let you go look at that one.

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EPR-radar  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:03:42pm

re: #37 The Ghost of a Flea

They’re creating a cover story in which everybody that disagrees with them is Ultimate Evil.

That’s not crazy, it’s an effective, if sociopathic, strategy—particularly if you’re setting up a justification for lots of people not getting rights (like, say, Putin is doing using social conservative themes).

It’s not that they’re geniuses, or that this is 4-D chess. But it doesn’t need to be 4-D chess. This is pogrom logic; the rhetorical style of every wife-beater ever. It’s time-tested.

A good recent example of this is the Rwanda genocide. As I understand it, radio propaganda played a big role in getting enough Hutus to regard the Tutsis as ultimately evil “others” that should be exterminated.

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Belafon  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:04:18pm

re: #33 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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I would take Juggalos over Antifa in dealing with these guys.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:04:53pm

re: #46 Belafon

From Balloon Juice:

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Surprisingly, that’s not the worst story they found for today: balloon-juice.com. I’ll let you go look at that one.

lol crazy judge is crazy.

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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:05:55pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

lol crazy judge future Senator for the state of Alabama is crazy.

FTFY

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:06:55pm

re: #50 teleskiguy

FTFY

Gah don’t remind me.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:07:57pm

Applying the rule of “it’s projection with right-wingers, always” makes you really wonder about these guys:

CERNOVICH: So if you want to kidnap a child, chain her to a radiator in the house, beat her up with a whip…
JONES: And let ten guys rape her a day and give her AIDS and then shoot her in back of the head and throw her in a lake, it’s totally liberal.[…] As long as you’re liberal it’s loving!

And the right wing calls liberals sick?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:09:33pm

re: #52 Anymouse 🌹

Applying the rule of “it’s projection with right-wingers, always” makes you really wonder about these guys:

And the right wing calls liberals sick?

He…he has a lot of problems.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:12:26pm

re: #44 Anymouse 🌹

Probably safer than the coffee. (Checks to see what wife bought a the store before sipping my coffee … Yuban … should be okay …)

I bought a lean roast—basically just a big piece of coherent muscle—washed the hell out of the outside, then froze and minced it myself. Which should considerably reduce the chance of contaminants.

But I’m not using a raw egg.

Otherwise, it’s capers, lemon zest, shallot greens, black pepper, pine nuts, a dab of soy sauce (for umami), a dab of seasoned clarified butter (for unctuousnes), and a finishing spice mix called Svanetian salt (which is from Georgia and is my new favorite way to lazily add complexity goodness to food).

All on whole wheat crackers.

Man, it feels nice to talk about stuff that isn’t doom.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:13:43pm

Honestly, I’ve expected a full-up, missile & warhead, atmospheric test since the whole “Guam” back and forth

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Belafon  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:14:23pm

re: #52 Anymouse 🌹

That’s some definition of liberal I have never heard of. I’m an engineer; my creativity tends towards ways of solving problems. It’s definitely not in the “project my fetishes onto others” way that Jones is.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:15:23pm

re: #54 The Ghost of a Flea

I bought a lean roast—basically just a big piece of coherent muscle—washed the hell out of the outside, then froze and minced it myself. Which should considerably reduce the chance of contaminants.

But I’m not using a raw egg.

Otherwise, it’s capers, lemon zest, shallot greens, black pepper, pine nuts, a dab of soy sauce (for umami), a dab of seasoned clarified butter (for unctuousnes), and a finishing spice mix called Svanetian salt (which is from Georgia and is my new favorite way to lazily add complexity goodness to food).

All on whole wheat crackers.

Man, it feels nice to talk about stuff that isn’t doom.

Well, there is the problem of pathogens in the meat, which you can’t wash out. There is a reason that restaurants note that undercooked meat is potentially dangerous on menus.

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Belafon  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:16:50pm

re: #56 FormerDirtDart

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:17:16pm

re: #54 The Ghost of a Flea

I bought a lean roast—basically just a big piece of coherent muscle—washed the hell out of the outside, then froze and minced it myself. Which should considerably reduce the chance of contaminants.

But I’m not using a raw egg.

Otherwise, it’s capers, lemon zest, shallot greens, black pepper, pine nuts, a dab of soy sauce (for umami), a dab of seasoned clarified butter (for unctuousnes), and a finishing spice mix called Svanetian salt (which is from Georgia and is my new favorite way to lazily add complexity goodness to food).

All on whole wheat crackers.

Man, it feels nice to talk about stuff that isn’t doom.

I’m doing a chorizo, butternut squash, chickpea, and shaved Brussels sprouts salad for dinner. Some feta, some onion, roast the squash in the oven (it’s roasting now), toss together a quick dressing, and normally I dress it up with some pomegranate seeds but I couldn’t find any in the stores this week so it’ll probably get some raisins.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:20:13pm

re: #60 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m doing a chorizo, butternut squash, chickpea, and shaved Brussels sprouts salad for dinner. Some feta, some onion, roast the squash in the oven (it’s roasting now), toss together a quick dressing, and normally I dress it up with some pomegranate seeds but I couldn’t find any in the stores this week so it’ll probably get some raisins.

Chorizo is rapidly becoming a personal favorite ever since Chipotle introduced it as a selection in their cuisine. It may or may not be the real thing, but it tastes good, dammit.

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gocart mozart  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:20:14pm

n the message, Kim starts off bemused, saying he expected boilerplate talking points from Trump at the UN. “But,” Kim says in the statement, “He made unprecedented rude nonsense one has never heard from any of his predecessors. A frightened dog barks louder.”

“The mentally deranged behavior of the U.S. president openly expressing on the UN arena the unethical will to ‘totally destroy’ a sovereign state, beyond the boundary of threats of regime change or overturn of social system, makes even those with normal thinking faculty think about discretion and composure.”

“After taking office Trump has rendered the world restless through threats and blackmail against all countries in the world. He is unfit to hold the prerogative of supreme command of a country, and he is surely a rogue and a gangster fond of playing with fire, rather than a politician. His remarks which described the U.S. option through straightforward expression of his will have convinced me, rather than frightening or stopping me, that the path I chose is correct and that it is the one I have to follow to the last.”

Well, he is not really wrong is he?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:21:10pm

re: #61 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Chorizo is rapidly becoming a personal favorite ever since Chipotle introduced it as a selection in their cuisine. It may or may not be the real thing, but it tastes good, dammit.

I found a solid recipe for making it at home from ground pork and spices and oh man that was both the best and worst day ever.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:21:45pm

Rude Pundit weighs in on the latest Wealthcare for Billionaires bill:

But fuck that. Republicans just want to go around the country and crow that they did it, goddamnit, even if that means they have to stand on a stack of corpses to be heard. There’s your image of the 2017 GOP: Mitch McConnell in the September 30 twilight, tortoise howling in victory atop the bodies of his dead and dying constituents, who would still vote for him.

rudepundit.blogspot.ca

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:22:02pm

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹

Yes, very true.

But tonight I’m living dangerously. My estate planning in order, though.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:22:50pm

re: #63 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I found a solid recipe for making it at home from ground pork and spices and oh man that was both the best and worst day ever.

I love meat. It’s my big weakness, even more than cheese. I am such a stereotypical man. The thing is, until I met Mrs. Fish, I preferred bland meats. My dad made hamburgers and steaks with sweet barbecue sauces. Mrs. Fish introduced me to exotic spices and actual heat flavors, which has really expanded my palate. Chorizo is a side benefit of that exposure.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:23:10pm

re: #65 The Ghost of a Flea

Yes, very true.

But tonight I’m living dangerously. My estate planning in order, though.

Eh, living dangerously would be eating fugu after preparing it yourself.

Anyone who eats a hamburger with a little bit of pink inside is taking higher risks than you are.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:23:47pm

re: #28 lawhawk

Trump put no talent assclowns in charge of every agency/department, or right wing extremists all with the intent to sabotage and undermine functioning govt.

That’s how you get the Agriculture Dept filled with know-nothing opportunists who have zero experience, a HUD Secretary with zero experience, and HHS Secretary whose idea of public health is gutting public health funding all while fleecing taxpayers with charter flights galore.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:23:55pm

re: #62 gocart mozart

When North Korea is saner than Republicans… .

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:25:29pm
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FormerDirtDart  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:26:26pm

I need to knead this dog

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:26:51pm

re: #38 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The Make America Kittens Again plugin made your post very cute in my browser.

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I have it too. The pic was of two little kittens

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:26:58pm

re: #66 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The other thing is that I always used to eat my steak/pork/etc. all well done. Not burned to a crisp, but the next best thing. Nowadays, I will eat medium-well or even medium meats and enjoy them without fear. I don’t actually notice much of a flavor difference, but the texture difference is noticeable.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:31:43pm

re: #66 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I love meat. It’s my big weakness, even more than cheese. I am such a stereotypical man. The thing is, until I met Mrs. Fish, I preferred bland meats. My dad made hamburgers and steaks with sweet barbecue sauces. Mrs. Fish introduced me to exotic spices and actual heat flavors, which has really expanded my palate. Chorizo is a side benefit of that exposure.

I really like spicy food too. I really wish the American diet had more lamb in it.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:33:06pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

I really like spicy food too. I really wish the American diet had more lamb in it.

The sad thing is, at the Brazilian steakhouse, the lamb was actually the disappointment of the night. I much preferred the top sirloin and the ribeye, which were well-crusted with grilled flavor, where the lamb was just lacking all around. But it was still a great first introduction to lamb, and perhaps someday I’ll find a place that makes it taste as good as those beef steaks those guys were dishing up last night.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:34:03pm

re: #60 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Chorizo and chickpeas…nice.

And I love pomegranates. Strew them on basically everything. I’m still messing with Central Asian food mostly (on the nights I don’t have eggs and toast…which is quite a few recently) so I’m cooking with way more of them—and with pomegranate molasses, which is great ingredient. In Pakistan one of the street foods is thin kebabs (the ground meat kind, not the marinated chunks kind) studded with them.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:34:25pm

It isn’t just Cernovich and Jones.

smh.com.au (Sydney Morning Herald: Rush Limbaugh Thinks the Left Are Obsessed with Consent)

As Rush so inadvertently pointed out, conservatives really don’t understand the concept that lack of adult consent is the only valid moral barrier to sexual activity.

One of these men is Florida radio presenter Rush Limbaugh, a shock jock who once said feminism was “established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society” and described a law student who gave a speech in support of mandatory insurance coverage for contraceptives in front of the Democratic caucus as a “slut” and a “prostitute” (he has since apologised).

But, while Limbaugh may have thought he was defending his preferred president against detractors on his radio show on Wednesday, he… actually gave a pretty good explanation of sexual assault.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:35:25pm

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹

It isn’t just Cernovich and Jones.

smh.com.au (Sydney Morning Herald: Rush Limbaugh Thinks the Left Are Obsessed with Consent

As Rush so inadvertently pointed out, conservatives really don’t understand the concept that lack of adult consent is the only valid moral barrier to sexual activity.

He really needs to see someone about the giant head he has up his asshole all the time.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:35:49pm

re: #76 The Ghost of a Flea

Chorizo and chickpeas…nice.

And I love pomegranates. Strew them on basically everything. I’m still messing with Central Asian food mostly (on the nights I don’t have eggs and toast…which is quite a few recently) so I’m cooking with way more of them—and with pomegranate molasses, which is great ingredient. In Pakistan one of the street foods is thin kebabs (the ground meat kind, not the marinated chunks kind) studded with them.

I love them. Looooooooooooove them. Let’s just say if I was Persephone, fuck it, there’d be snow all the time.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:36:37pm

re: #75 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The sad thing is, at the Brazilian steakhouse, the lamb was actually the disappointment of the night. I much preferred the top sirloin and the ribeye, which were well-crusted with grilled flavor, where the lamb was just lacking all around. But it was still a great first introduction to lamb, and perhaps someday I’ll find a place that makes it taste as good as those beef steaks those guys were dishing up last night.

In my observations the best places for lamb are kabob places or Indian places. My brother did the Brazilian steakhouse thing with his wife for their anniversary a couple years back. Really liked it. I’d like to try more South American food. I have Peruvian a bit because of my SiL.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:37:44pm

re: #79 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I love them. Looooooooooooove them. Let’s just say if I was Persephone, fuck it, there’d be snow all the time.

Man, there was such a huge time gap between when I read that story and first tried one. Like, more than a decade.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:38:15pm

I like to joke that part of the reason why I’m so pro immigrant is I like to try new cuisines. That’s not the real reason but man I’d get bored with plain old “American food.” I mean I like things like burgers, fries, hot dogs, etc but I love trying a new cuisine whenever I can.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:38:40pm

re: #81 The Ghost of a Flea

Man, there was such a huge time gap between when I read that story and first tried one. Like, more than a decade.

Same here. It just wasn’t something we ate in my house growing up. Which led to all manner of amusement when I tried to figure out how to get the seeds with a friend in high school.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:38:58pm

Ok so who is going to find herself tagged with a pre-existing condition under Graham-Cassidy?

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:39:59pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

I really like spicy food too. I really wish the American diet had more lamb in it.

Ours does, after my wife ordered some spices from Penzey’s for the first time and they threw in a bunch of herbs and spices specifically for lamb.

A couple days later we were at the butcher shop in town so she could buy about twenty pounds of lamb.

Now it’s lamb sate, lamb tsardust, lamb surprise, surprise lamb again …

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:40:02pm

re: #84 Joe Bacon 🌹

Ok so who is going to find herself tagged with a pre-existing condition under Graham-Cassidy?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:40:30pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

In my observations the best places for lamb are kabob places or Indian places. My brother did the Brazilian steakhouse thing with his wife for their anniversary a couple years back. Really liked it. I’d like to try more South American food. I have Peruvian a bit because of my SiL.

For lamb, I do have to say it’s hard to beat a Middle Eastern or Greek place that does the big old lamb rotisserie, or lamb kebabs. Lamb gyros is one of my favorite dishes.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:41:00pm

re: #85 Anymouse 🌹

Ours does, after my wife ordered some spices from Penzey’s for the first time and they threw in a bunch of herbs and spices specifically for lamb.

A couple days later we were at the butcher shop in town so she could buy about twenty pounds of lamb.

Now it’s lamb sate, lamb tsardust, lamb surprise, surprise lamb again …

We pretty much only do pork, beef, or chicken. My grandmother who lives with us isn’t too big on exotic food.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:41:29pm

really digging Tom Clancy’s The Division.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:41:32pm

re: #87 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

For lamb, I do have to say it’s hard to beat a Middle Eastern or Greek place that does the big old lamb rotisserie, or lamb kebabs. Lamb gyros is one of my favorite dishes.

Yes! Or Lamb Biryani if you want Indian.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:41:41pm

My dryer’s igniter conked out so I went to the laundromat and had sushi at a place I’ve never been to before. It was fantastic. Their “all you can eat” policy is the best, they’ll serve whatever you order in a series enormous heaping plates, but if you don’t eat everything you’ve asked for they take it as an insult and charge you more. If you try to just eat the fish and not the rice you get charged more. If you try to just eat the center out of the roll you get charged more. If you want to take some home you get charged more.

I love it, basically it’s just don’t be an asshole and we’ll all get along.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:42:12pm

re: #82 HappyWarrior

I like to joke that part of the reason why I’m so pro immigrant is I like to try new cuisines. That’s not the real reason but man I’d get bored with plain old “American food.” I mean I like things like burgers, fries, hot dogs, etc but I love trying a new cuisine whenever I can.

See, my folks were afraid of new foods. I didn’t truly experience exotic cuisine until I got acquainted with Mrs. Fish. That’s not a coincidence.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:42:21pm

re: #83 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The other crazy one for me was my first encounter with a whole tamarind pod. I mean, the flavor was ubiquitous in my life…Worchestershire sauce, the red-brown chutney in Indian restaraunts, agua frescas…no idea that it looked like an anime artist’s rendering of a dog turd.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:42:51pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

Yes! Or Lamb Biryani if you want Indian.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:43:08pm

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

I’ll pass on sushi. My wife likes it, but not me.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:43:45pm

re: #95 Anymouse 🌹

I’ll pass on sushi. My wife likes it, but not me.

Mrs. Fish got me addicted to it. It’s actually not as scary as it seems. I someday hope to pony up the courage to try properly prepared fugu.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:44:00pm

re: #95 Anymouse 🌹

I’ll pass on sushi. My wife likes it, but not me.

I wouldn’t trust any sushi I could find in the panhandle of Nebraska either.

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danarchy  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:44:08pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

Yes! Or Lamb Biryani if you want Indian.

Shawarma, In college I lived about 100 feet from a Middle Eastern place that made shawarma to die for.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:44:25pm

re: #93 The Ghost of a Flea

Before we met, mr. klys went through a home fruit winemaking phase and tried a tamarind wine, from the pods (as I understand it).

I think about three years into our relationship he finally poured it out. Let’s just say it was not one of the more successful attempts.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:44:32pm

re: #94 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:44:53pm

re: #98 danarchy

Shawarma, In college I lived about 100 feet from a Middle Eastern place that made shawarma to die for.

Yeah Shawrama is quite good too.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:45:25pm

re: #97 goddamnedfrank

I wouldn’t trust any sushi I could find in the panhandle of Nebraska either.

… she noted I should add “lamb curry and lamb poutine.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:45:46pm

re: #100 HappyWarrior

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allegro  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:46:06pm

re: #82 HappyWarrior

I like to joke that part of the reason why I’m so pro immigrant is I like to try new cuisines. That’s not the real reason but man I’d get bored with plain old “American food.” I mean I like things like burgers, fries, hot dogs, etc but I love trying a new cuisine whenever I can.

I think that’s an absolutely fine reason to be pro immigrant. There is little that is so culturally defining as food. Not just the ingredients but the culture around its preparation and ultimate nourishment, both physical and emotional. It’s the centerpiece of family and friendship.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:46:35pm

Thing about sushi is it depends what you get. I really like the more crunchy rolls personally.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:47:38pm

re: #104 allegro

I think that’s an absolutely fine reason to be pro immigrant. There is little that is so culturally defining as food. Not just the ingredients but the culture around its preparation and ultimate nourishment, both physical and emotional. It’s the centerpiece of family and friendship.

That’s a good point. We did have a lot of Peruvian food at my brother’s wedding. Our extended family mostly really liked it.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:47:52pm

re: #105 HappyWarrior

Thing about sushi is it depends what you get. I really like the more crunchy rolls personally.

I’m not a fan of sushi (or more accurately, sashimi, because the rice is fine but I’m not into the fish) because of texture, but I’m married to one hell of a sushi snob.

To be fair, the stuff you can get at the convenience stores in Japan pretty much blows away the majority of what you can find in the states, so there’s a reason for that.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:48:53pm

re: #105 HappyWarrior

Thing about sushi is it depends what you get. I really like the more crunchy rolls personally.

Best crunchy rolls I’ve had were at an all-you-can-eat sushi place. They fried the raw product in a tempura batter before rolling it in the sticky rice. It was an amazing texture combination.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:49:07pm

re: #107 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m not a fan of sushi (or more accurately, sashimi, because the rice is fine but I’m not into the fish) because of texture, but I’m married to one hell of a sushi snob.

To be fair, the stuff you can get at the convenience stores in Japan pretty much blows away the majority of what you can find in the states, so there’s a reason for that.

Yeah I imagine the real thing in Japan is much better than what we get here.

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gocart mozart  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:49:12pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:49:37pm

re: #108 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Best crunchy rolls I’ve had were at an all-you-can-eat sushi place. They fried the raw product in a tempura batter before rolling it in the sticky rice. It was an amazing texture combination.

I don’t like all you can eat usually because I over eat and I feel you sacrifice quality but I do like all you can eat sushi places.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:49:41pm

re: #103 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

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William Lewis  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:49:58pm

re: #88 HappyWarrior

We pretty much only do pork, beef, or chicken. My grandmother who lives with us isn’t too big on exotic food.

Lamb is not exotic.

Black bear. Ostrich. Aligator. Heck, even elk I can see being exotic. But lamb? Nothing in this world like a gently pan fried lamb chop in butter & herbs on a bed of wild rice.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:51:01pm

re: #113 William Lewis

Lamb is not exotic.

Black bear. Ostrich. Aligator. Heck, even elk I can see being exotic. But lamb? Nothing in this world like a gently pan fried lamb chop in butter & herbs on a bed of wild rice.

Heh that’s true. I can never remember having a home cooked meal of lamb though so it’s exotic to me. I have had ostrich, gator, and elk though.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:51:02pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

Yeah I imagine the real thing in Japan is much better than what we get here.

Going back to the steak tartar mentioned earlier, one of mr. klys’s favorite bentos for the shinkansen out of Tokyo is tuna tartar on rice from the department store at Tokyo station. (I’m a big fan of the tonkatsu bentos you can get there. Mmmmm, so good.)

Plus when you get that to go they give you a little icepack for it and everything. (For the tuna. Not the tonkatsu.)

I miss the food.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:51:03pm

re: #30 Kragar

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:51:32pm

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:51:51pm

re: #110 gocart mozart

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:52:10pm

re: #99 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I…can’t…see that working out well.

I mean, people in the tropics are just as prone to ferment whatever’s available, yet never heard of anyone using tamarind as the actual fermentation agent.

I just had the local USDA agent by, and we had a hoot talking about his brewing and distilling hobby. Our area is filling up with wineries—the idea is to create a picturesque rent-able venue not a decent vintage—so we had a jaw about the problems with growing vines in the middle heavily-sprayed corn and soybean plots.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:52:45pm

re: #114 HappyWarrior

Heh that’s true. I can never remember having a home cooked meal of lamb though so it’s exotic to me. I have had ostrich, gator, and elk though.

We can buy elk from a couple butcher shops here so here it isn’t exotic. (You can also hunt elk with a car as someone here did a couple weeks ago. Really angered the elk to be used as a wall to total a car.)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:52:59pm

re: #115 klys (maker of Silmarils)

In Kyoto there was a place that did roll cakes as little cats, complete with a chocolate face on one end and a chocolate tail on the other. Mmm.

And then there was also the izakaya (standing only) that was flat out some of the most amazing food we had that trip and cost something like $20 for the two of us for some serious food. And drinks. We might detour through Kyoto again just to eat there.

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No Depression  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:53:00pm

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹

It isn’t just Cernovich and Jones.

smh.com.au (Sydney Morning Herald: Rush Limbaugh Thinks the Left Are Obsessed with Consent

As Rush so inadvertently pointed out, conservatives really don’t understand the concept that lack of adult consent is the only valid moral barrier to sexual activity.

I know I’m preaching to the choir here, but Limbaugh’s comment on feminism is fucking gross. The implication that physical attractiveness should have any bearing on one’s access to the benefits of society is absolutely abhorrent. In fact, as I’m typing this, I’m just now recognizing that this mindset is fascism plain and simple; it isn’t a coincidence that rampant misogyny is a key feature of the ideology.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:53:21pm

re: #120 Anymouse 🌹

We can buy elk from a couple butcher shops here so here it isn’t exotic. (You can also hunt elk with a car as someone here did a couple weeks ago. Really angered the elk to be used as a wall to total a car.)

I recall having an elk burger when I was out west. Came with a really good raspberry BBQ sauce.

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gocart mozart  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:54:10pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:54:22pm

re: #122 No Depression

I know I’m preaching to the choir here, but Limbaugh’s comment on feminism is fucking gross. The implication that physical attractiveness should have any bearing on one’s access to the benefits of society is absolutely abhorrent. In fact, as I’m typing this, I’m just now recognizing that this mindset is fascism plain and simple; it isn’t a coincidence that rampant misogyny is a key feature of the ideology.

It’s especially rich coming from a guy who isn’t exactly physically attractive himself. Some of the most nasty attacks I’ve seen directed at women’s physical looks come from guys who are to be blunt ugly mofos.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:54:35pm

re: #119 The Ghost of a Flea

It did not turn out well.

He wants me to make the apple wine with him though, which is apparently somehow different than cider but he said it was pretty good.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:54:55pm

re: #124 gocart mozart

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:55:12pm

re: #114 HappyWarrior

Heh that’s true. I can never remember having a home cooked meal of lamb though so it’s exotic to me. I have had ostrich, gator, and elk though.

Happy, Dad loved leg of lamb UNTIL the night Alfred Hitchcock Presents showed what a vengeful Barbara Bel Geddes did with one. After that, he turned to Mom and told her to NEVER even think about cooking lamb ever again!

Alfred Hitchcock Presents Lamb to the Slaughter. (1958) - YouTube

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:56:59pm

re: #128 Joe Bacon 🌹

Happy, Dad loved leg of lamb UNTIL the night Alfred Hitchcock Presents showed what a vengeful Barbara Bel Geddes did with one. After that, he turned to Mom and told her to NEVER even think about cooking lamb ever again!

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Heh I bet my Dad saw that one. I really like it myself but prefer it spiced and as much as I know it makes me a bad person, I love veal. I typically don’t like Italian food but I love veal parm. And traditionally veal style schnitzel is one of my favorite meals ever.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:58:34pm

See, to a conservative who grew up with wingnut parents, “exotic” is anything outside of chicken, pork, hamburgers, or steak. Alternate preparations of beef, lamb, other meats, spices outside of traditional KC or Memphis barbecue sauce - what is this sorcery? I had Americanized Tex-Mex on occasion, and that’s about it. Thank God I moved to the Twin Cities area, which opened my mouth to real ethnic cuisine.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 6:59:23pm

Limbaugh isn’t unique in that “feminists are feminists because they’re ugly crowd” though. So many times, I’ve seen conservatives including some I know tout “our” women as being better than “their” women because “our” women are more hot. I mean first off, that’s total bullshit. There’s plenty of physically attractive liberal women out there. Secondly, really obvious to me that the only thing that matters to them about a woman is how she looks which is why pretty much all the ladies on FNC are all reasonably attractive types.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:00:19pm

re: #126 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Would apple wine be still, while cider is fermented with yeast that produce CO2?

In spite of everyone around me apparently making homebrew, I’ve never got more experimental than tepache, which pretty much makes itself.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:00:26pm

re: #130 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

See, to a conservative who grew up with wingnut parents, “exotic” is anything outside of chicken, pork, hamburgers, or steak. Alternate preparations of beef, lamb, other meats, spices outside of traditional KC or Memphis barbecue sauce - what is this sorcery? I had Americanized Tex-Mex on occasion, and that’s about it. Thank God I moved to the Twin Cities area, which opened my mouth to real ethnic cuisine.

Do they have any Somalian places there? I know the Twin Cities has a big Somalian-American community. That’s a cuisine I’d be interested in trying out. We have a bit of Ethiopian places in D.C. TBH Ethiopian really didn’t do it for me. Just not my cup of tea.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:02:34pm

re: #133 HappyWarrior

Do they have any Somalian places there? I know the Twin Cities has a big Somalian-American community. That’s a cuisine I’d be interested in trying out. We have a bit of Ethiopian places in D.C. TBH Ethiopian really didn’t do it for me. Just not my cup of tea.

Yes, the Twin Cities is a center for Somali refugees, and as it happens, there is a Somali restaurant that delivers to my work address, which I brought home for myself and Mrs. Fish one time. It is pretty good. As far as ethnic food goes, it is as flavorful as any other. It’s actually a lot like Asian curries, but with a different flavor palate.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:03:58pm

re: #134 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yes, the Twin Cities is a center for Somali refugees, and as it happens, there is a Somali restaurant that delivers to my work address, which I brought home for myself and Mrs. Fish one time. It is pretty good. As far as ethnic food goes, it is as flavorful as any other. It’s actually a lot like Asian curries, but with a different flavor palate.

I always assumed Somali would have a lot of fish dishes due to its location. What’s really neat though about some countries is how much the food can vary from region to region. Paella is obviously more popular in Barcelona than say Madrid.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:05:24pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

I always assumed Somali would have a lot of fish dishes due to its location. What’s really neat though about some countries is how much the food can vary from region to region. Paella is obviously more popular in Barcelona than say Madrid.

Somali cuisine is nothing super unique. A lot of curry-like preparations of beef, lamb, goat, and as you mentioned, some fish/shrimp dishes. The spice combinations are kind of unique, using a lot of African flavors instead of the Asian curry/saffron/cardamom combinations.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:05:41pm

re: #131 HappyWarrior

Limbaugh isn’t unique in that “feminists are feminists because they’re ugly crowd” though. So many times, I’ve seen conservatives including some I know tout “our” women as being better than “their” women because “our” women are more hot. I mean first off, that’s total bullshit. There’s plenty of physically attractive liberal women out there. Secondly, really obvious to me that the only thing that matters to them about a woman is how she looks which is why pretty much all the ladies on FNC are all reasonably attractive types.

Personally, I think Rachel Maddow is mesmerizing, “hot,” if you will.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:08:01pm

re: #137 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Personally, I think Rachel Maddow is mesmerizing, “hot,” if you will.

I think she’s an attractive woman and obviously I know you agree with this but we don’t see her worth as being due to her looks. Rachel’s an intelligent lady. A Rhodes Scholar in fact. I have a lot more respect for her intellectual acumen than someone like Lumpy or Rushbo or Alex Jones.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:08:53pm

re: #132 The Ghost of a Flea

Would apple wine be still, while cider is fermented with yeast that produce CO2?

In spite of everyone around me apparently making homebrew, I’ve never got more experimental than tepache, which pretty much makes itself.

For all that I am a chemist, I have been …eh about it. I mean, I don’t drink beer so that’s out. Gin would be fun but has all kinds of complications so so far I haven’t.

I’ll have to ask him about the distinction tonight, but who knows if I’ll get the chance. He’s apparently coming home to do more work. Not the best day here at casa klys. (I should be writing more too, but have at least gotten some words out. Juggling that and getting dinner prepped right now.)

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:09:23pm

re: #133 HappyWarrior

Somali and Ethiopian and Eritrean have a lot of elements in common. And in turn you can see how their food relates to food in Yemen and Oman.

It’s no longer operating but this blog has recipes from the region. It’s time-consuming and heart-attack unctuous, but zigni—beef ribs braised in a pepper puree with berbere—is one of the best things I’ve ever eaten.

We’re in sort of a Renaissance of fancy, well-designed cookbooks, so I’m hoping someone does some for the Sahel. And Yemen, for that matter.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:10:46pm

re: #139 klys (maker of Silmarils)

For all that I am a chemist, I have been …eh about it. I mean, I don’t drink beer so that’s out. Gin would be fun but has all kinds of complications so so far I haven’t.

I’ll have to ask him about the distinction tonight, but who knows if I’ll get the chance. He’s apparently coming home to do more work. Not the best day here at casa klys. (I should be writing more too, but have at least gotten some words out. Juggling that and getting dinner prepped right now.)

Hey, if you ever want a still, I know a guy.

(Actually, I know about 4 guys. We are a moonshinin’ people.)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:11:24pm

re: #141 The Ghost of a Flea

Hey, if you ever want a still, I know a guy.

(Actually, I know about 4 guys. We are a moonshinin’ people.)

Any competent civil engineer could build a still. Hmm…

[Distant explosion.]

Right. Scratch that. I think I’ll leave that to the professionals.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:12:46pm

re: #141 The Ghost of a Flea

Hey, if you ever want a still, I know a guy.

(Actually, I know about 4 guys. We are a moonshinin’ people.)

When we went over to the UK this summer, we did a one night class run by one of the microdistilleries there that talked about the history of gin and the process, etc. - and then there was the hands on portion where you got to taste some of the straight flavors and “design” your own gin using the base distilled with different single botanicals.

I was in heaven.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:13:35pm

re: #142 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Any competent civil engineer could build a still. Hmm…

[Distant explosion.]

Right. Scratch that. I think I’ll leave that to the professionals.

My biggest struggle with getting a still would be not offending all the other people in the area that make stills.

(Have I mentioned I live in a Faulkner novel? Well, a Faulkner-Kafka mashup….)

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No Depression  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:14:59pm

re: #131 HappyWarrior

Limbaugh isn’t unique in that “feminists are feminists because they’re ugly crowd” though. So many times, I’ve seen conservatives including some I know tout “our” women as being better than “their” women because “our” women are more hot. I mean first off, that’s total bullshit. There’s plenty of physically attractive liberal women out there. Secondly, really obvious to me that the only thing that matters to them about a woman is how she looks which is why pretty much all the ladies on FNC are all reasonably attractive types.

I really don’t give a shit about who has the “hotter” women. I would choose an “average” looking woman over Tomi Lahren any day (though I don’t really find her all that attractive any way; her resting hate face does nothing for me.)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:15:43pm

re: #144 The Ghost of a Flea

My biggest struggle with getting a still would be not offending all the other people in the area that make stills.

(Have I mentioned I live in a Faulkner novel? Well, a Faulkner-Kafka mashup….)

A couple of years ago, a house down the hill from me spontaneously combusted. The official diagnosis was a propane tank that was stored in the garage that caught fire and rapidly reduced the home to ash. A more insidious explanation was proffered by a friend, however: Perhaps this little townhome in the middle of Suburbia, MN was actually home to a meth lab…

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retired cynic  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:17:13pm

re: #113 William Lewis

Lamb is not exotic. …

The best lamb I ever had was butchered and the roasts were wrapped on the spit with the fat on the inside, and a dry rub was used. The spit kept turning over a real fire and the roasts were soooo tender, and our open house group went through most of six lambs. I try not to think about the lambs, raised just on grass for the occasion. But everyone who was there (back in 1981) remembers that meal!

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:17:38pm

re: #146 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Did everything smell like cat piss? That would be meth lab sign.

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danarchy  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:17:45pm

re: #130 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

See, to a conservative who grew up with wingnut parents, “exotic” is anything outside of chicken, pork, hamburgers, or steak. Alternate preparations of beef, lamb, other meats, spices outside of traditional KC or Memphis barbecue sauce - what is this sorcery? I had Americanized Tex-Mex on occasion, and that’s about it. Thank God I moved to the Twin Cities area, which opened my mouth to real ethnic cuisine.

Growing up in a portuguese household we ate lots of things regularly that a lot of people would consider exotic. Things like goat, octopus and rabbit. Rabbit is the one that really surprises me you don’t see more. My mom made rabbit stew at least once every week or two. It is something you rarely see on restaurant menus, but they are easy to raise and it is almost like nature designed them to be eaten by other critters.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:18:34pm

re: #146 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And on that topic, a more light-hearted anecdote: A few friends of mine took a flatboat cruise down the Wabash River in Indiana back in our college days. When we reconnected after Spring Break, I heard the tales of their exploits. Apparently, the county sheriff accosted them one night because someone along the river called them in. They thought the flatboat - with a fire burning aboard - was a floating meth lab, and called the police on them.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:19:31pm

re: #149 danarchy

Growing up in a portuguese household we ate lots of things regularly that a lot of people would consider exotic. Things like goat, octopus and rabbit. Rabbit is the one that really surprises me you don’t see more. My mom made rabbit stew at least once every week or two. It is something you rarely see on restaurant menus, but they are easy to raise and it is almost like nature designed them to be eaten by other critters.

As a resident of flyover country, I’ve had rabbit stew. It’s certainly not exotic to me, but you’re right in that you won’t see it on a restaurant menu anywhere nearby. It was something a rural hunter friend made for us when he hosted us for dinner.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:19:38pm
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Bubblehead II  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:20:14pm

Night Lizards.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:20:25pm

Jimmy ain’t backing down!

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I cannot.  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:24:15pm

Now to continue using my one free month of Netflix to binge watch Voltron, Arrow, Flash, Sailor Moon…really liking Voltron already…

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:25:07pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:25:08pm

re: #151 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

In a slightly dark sign of times, raising rabbits has become a way for people around here to get cheap meat.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:26:24pm

re: #157 The Ghost of a Flea

In a slightly dark sign of times, raising rabbits has become a way for people around here to get cheap meat.

Spoiler for a little bit of uncomfortable rural-America life.

My mom’s folks used to raise rabbits. My mom can’t stand rabbits anymore, remembering the way they would scream when their necks were broken.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:26:56pm

Ouch

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:27:03pm

21 Truly Upsetting Vintage Recipes

Speaking of food, I am fortunate that my mother never bought into what I call “the weird casserole” fad of the 1950s. Food companies seemed to outdo themselves plastering the magazines of the time with gastronomically dubious recipes that would make high profile use of their products. There were any number of recipes that combined canned tuna with jello, for example. I never tried it but just the idea makes me gag. I think a lot of this was based on a desire to get away from the alleged stigma of “old fashioned home-cooking,” something from which the average suburbanite was actually not very far removed. In her wisdom, my mom stayed with traditional southern and Tex-Mex, as I do to this day.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:27:30pm

re: #131 HappyWarrior

Limbaugh isn’t unique in that “feminists are feminists because they’re ugly crowd” though. So many times, I’ve seen conservatives including some I know tout “our” women as being better than “their” women because “our” women are more hot. I mean first off, that’s total bullshit. There’s plenty of physically attractive liberal women out there. Secondly, really obvious to me that the only thing that matters to them about a woman is how she looks which is why pretty much all the ladies on FNC are all reasonably attractive types.

Plus, beauty is relative. There is no objective standard for beauty any more than there is an objective standard for morality.

There is also a reason FOX News Channel women presenters all seem to have come from the same lot in Stepford. FOX has an objective standard of beauty.

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:28:43pm
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jaunte  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:30:24pm

re: #160 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

My mother served us a lot of tuna/noodle/mushroom soup/peas casserole when I was growing up. Dad kept us on a conservative food budget.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:31:43pm

Why hasn’t this thug been arrested yet for advocating political murder?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:32:09pm

re: #160 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

21 Truly Upsetting Vintage Recipes

Speaking of food, I am fortunate that my mother never bought into what I call “the weird casserole” fad of the 1950s. Food companies seemed to outdo themselves plastering the magazines of the time with gastronomically dubious recipes that would make high profile use of their products. There were any number of recipes that combined canned tuna with jello, for example. I never tried it but just the idea makes me gag. I think a lot of this was based on a desire to get away from the alleged stigma of “old fashioned home-cooking,” something from which the average suburbanite was actually not very far removed. In her wisdom, my mom stayed with traditional southern and Tex-Mex, as I do to this day.

A Facebook group of culinary disasters…

facebook.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:32:38pm

re: #151 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

As a resident of flyover country, I’ve had rabbit stew. It’s certainly not exotic to me, but you’re right in that you won’t see it on a restaurant menu anywhere nearby. It was something a rural hunter friend made for us when he hosted us for dinner.

re: #157 The Ghost of a Flea

In a slightly dark sign of times, raising rabbits has become a way for people around here to get cheap meat.

re: #158 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Spoiler for a little bit of uncomfortable rural-America life.

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One of my neighbours has raised rabbits for decades. He will occasionally bring rabbit to us.

When Canada goose season opens again I imagine our former mayor will bring us just-shot geese (he likes hunting but doesn’t like cleaning geese, we don’t mind cleaning geese but I don’t want to sit in a cold river with a shotgun) … I don’t know if they scream though.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:33:49pm

re: #160 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I have made the frosted ribbon loaf. It was good!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:37:08pm

re: #151 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

As a resident of flyover country, I’ve had rabbit stew. It’s certainly not exotic to me, but you’re right in that you won’t see it on a restaurant menu anywhere nearby. It was something a rural hunter friend made for us when he hosted us for dinner.

Mom cooked rabbit only once. We had dinner in our living room and afternoon cartoons were playing on the TV. I was only 3 years old, didn’t know what the meat was but I thought it tasted different. Then a Bugs Bunny cartoon came on and Dad just got evil by saying, “You know what you’re eating, Joey? You’re EATING BUGS BUNNY!”

I remember reeling in horror and I ran to my room crying. Dad came up to try and cool me down but I couldn’t stop crying yelling at him for killing Bugs Bunny!

Mom let Dad have it. Rabbit was never served in our house again.

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electrotek  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:38:53pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:39:27pm

re: #164 DodgerFan1988

That bit about Ann Coulter seemed a bit over the top, so I went checking on the source.

In the article, there are no sources for the statements. That makes them of questionanle reliability at best. (There is plenty bad enough about Ms. Coulter folks don’t have to make things up about her.)

The site is a blog, and of questionable reliability. They do not have an ABOUT page, but if you type /about after the Website’s URL you get this:

* Embedded Media Copyright Notice: ” We are not responsible for the content of any media embedded on this site. All issues should be addressed with the network responsible for the hosting of the aforementioned media [ our primary source: youtube youtube.com ]. All media is displayed for educational purposes only. We are not affiliated with the copyright owner(s) of the media, nor do we claim to own such media. “

….

Disclaimer: The materials on freakoutnation.com’s web site are provided “as is”. freakoutnation.com makes no warranties, expressed or implied, and hereby disclaims and negates all other warranties, including without limitation, implied warranties or conditions of merchantability, fitness for a particular purpose, or non-infringement of intellectual property or other violation of rights. Further, freakoutnation.com does not warrant or make any representations concerning the accuracy, likely results, or reliability of the use of the materials on its Internet web site or otherwise relating to such materials or on any sites linked to this site.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:39:30pm

…?…

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Belafon  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:39:34pm

re: #63 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I found a solid recipe for making it at home from ground pork and spices and oh man that was both the best and worst day ever.

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:40:14pm

That’s peak 50’s food experimentation. We’d better invite some immigrants to come here.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:40:40pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:41:09pm

re: #170 Anymouse

That bit about Ann Coulter seemed a bit over the top, so I went checking on the source.

In the article, there are no sources for the statements. That makes them of questionanle reliability at best. (There is plenty bad enough about Ms. Coulter folks don’t have to make things up about her.)

The site is a blog, and of questionable reliability. They do not have an ABOUT page, but if you type /about after the Website’s URL you get this:

Thanks deleting the reply to vapor

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bratwurst  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:42:22pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:42:23pm

re: #174 goddamnedfrank

P.S. Reported for threatening violence.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:44:11pm

re: #173 jaunte

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That’s peak 50’s food experimentation. We’d better invite some immigrants to come here.

The jello thing was just wrong.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:44:26pm

re: #173 jaunte

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That’s peak 50’s food experimentation. We’d better invite some immigrants to come here.

Mom used to make “perfection salad” for her Ladies Club. When I saw a new box of Knox Gelatin in the shelf another one was on the way…

But let’s change the culinary obsession to something else…

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danarchy  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:44:35pm

re: #168 Joe Bacon 🌹

Mom cooked rabbit only once. We had dinner in our living room and afternoon cartoons were playing on the TV. I was only 3 years old, didn’t know what the meat was but I thought it tasted different. Then a Bugs Bunny cartoon came on and Dad just got evil by saying, “You know what you’re eating, Joey? You’re EATING BUGS BUNNY!”

I remember reeling in horror and I ran to my room crying. Dad came up to try and cool me down but I couldn’t stop crying yelling at him for killing Bugs Bunny!

Mom let Dad have it. Rabbit was never served in our house again.

Didn’t have the same feelings for porky pig huh ;)

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:45:44pm

I was wrong about the “peak experimentation.” There’s a lot of this on Pinterest.

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:47:14pm

re: #179 Joe Bacon 🌹

Exciting picnic tray: set the poodles on the pigs.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:47:20pm

re: #173 jaunte

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That’s peak 50’s food experimentation. We’d better invite some immigrants to come here.

Yeacchh! I might eat that if I were starving to death and couldn’t catch a stray cat family of hamsters. (My cat was giving me the evil eye before I even completed that sentence.)

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:47:41pm

re: #160 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

21 Truly Upsetting Vintage Recipes

Speaking of food, I am fortunate that my mother never bought into what I call “the weird casserole” fad of the 1950s. Food companies seemed to outdo themselves plastering the magazines of the time with gastronomically dubious recipes that would make high profile use of their products. There were any number of recipes that combined canned tuna with jello, for example. I never tried it but just the idea makes me gag. I think a lot of this was based on a desire to get away from the alleged stigma of “old fashioned home-cooking,” something from which the average suburbanite was actually not very far removed. In her wisdom, my mom stayed with traditional southern and Tex-Mex, as I do to this day.

The secret of “weird casserole” is that they were workshopped to use a bunch of ingredients all produced by the same company, hit a comfortable price-point, and be as novel as possible. You shotgunned the ideas out there, then took notes on what hit and what didn’t. For example, there’s a ton of Jello recipes because the company was trying to goose the idea that gelatin wasn’t just desert, and came up with middle-brow (and horrifying) variations on haute-cuisine aspics. The same fried-batter mixture extruded in different shapes, sold to see if one hit (the survivor was Bugles.).

Wild-ass-ness of food was like a cul-de-sac on the larger US cultural path of zazzy new things that would make your life better. Not a coincidence that a lot of those crazy recipes accompanied the new life patterns of suburbia.

The successor of the ridiculous casseroles was Hamburger Helper…Betty Crocker had factories to make pasta and to make dry flavor packages, so they hired Leo Burnett to develop a new line that was a convenience food that turned cheap ground beef (the past was weird) into a 4-person meal.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:47:47pm

re: #178 Stanley Sea

The jello thing was just wrong.

Oh, come on. EVERYTHING tastes better with Jello.///

My grandmother made lots of fruit-salad Jello mixtures. Those were actually good. I can’t imagine things like tuna Jello, though. [Shudder.]

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:47:50pm

re: #181 jaunte

Holy Head Cheese, Batman! It’s packed with Mystery Meat!

Now let me try and top that!

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:49:10pm

re: #183 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

My co-worker’s house took 5 feet of Harvey storm runoff; this is what I imagine the bottom of his refrigerator looked like after two weeks without power.

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danarchy  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:50:25pm

re: #158 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Spoiler for a little bit of uncomfortable rural-America life.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:53:33pm

re: #186 Joe Bacon 🌹

Holy Head Cheese, Batman! It’s packed with Mystery Meat!

Now let me try and top that!

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I’d try it.

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freetoken  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:53:50pm

Jello, brand name for dry gelatin, is an excellent food source, being collagen, albeit transformed. Complete protein and all that jazz.

I think fresh fruit is fine in flavored gelatin.

Canned meat - not so much.

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:54:17pm

Find the Christian nation!

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:54:52pm
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freetoken  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:55:51pm

Fall is upon us.

Soon it will be Christmas.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:56:10pm

re: #193 freetoken

Fall is upon us.

Soon it will be Christmas.

WINTER IS COMING.

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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:56:48pm

re: #194 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

WINTER IS COMING.

YAY!!!

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Belafon  Sep 21, 2017 • 7:59:49pm

re: #152 Anymouse 🌹

While Murkowski needs to be called, she didn’t take the bribe last time.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:00:25pm

re: #174 goddamnedfrank

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She really should just be marginalized and mocked for being so painfully stupid but of course assholes like Maher have her on.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:00:59pm

re: #191 jaunte

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Find the Christian nation!

So so cruel. Sigh.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:02:39pm

I’ve always been pretty much sympathetic towards immigrants but I have to tell you guys, researching my own family has made me more so. Meeting cousins of mine who are from the country and in some cases even the village where my family comes from. It just reminds me that had my ancestor been in a different birth order or other sets of circumstances, I might not be here today as an American. That ain’t fate. That’s just random luck.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:04:08pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:04:57pm

re: #200 Anymouse 🌹

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Hopefully the USSC will do the right thing. That juror didn’t belong on that jury.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:07:03pm

re: #201 HappyWarrior

Hopefully the USSC will do the right thing. That juror didn’t belong on that jury.

Prosecutors will happily ban my ass for opposition to the death penalty, but that juror is okay.

(To be fair, I was only called for jury duty once, while I was at sea. I got the card about three weeks after I was supposed to show up at court.)

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retired cynic  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:07:29pm

re: #201 HappyWarrior

Hopefully the USSC will do the right thing. That juror didn’t belong on that jury.

On ANY jury! Even for jaywalking!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:08:15pm

re: #202 Anymouse 🌹

Prosecutors will happily ban my ass for opposition to the death penalty, but that juror is okay.

(To be fair, I was only called for jury duty once, while I was at sea. I got the card about three weeks after I was supposed to show up at court.)

Yeah, I don’t get it. People like you and myself can be disqualified if we don’t believe in the DP and that’s fine. But someone with those beliefs about black people should have never been allowed on that jury.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:08:47pm

re: #203 retired cynic

On ANY jury! Even for jaywalking!

Very much so. He’s free to be a racist asshole. He also shouldn’t be judging someone’s fate especially life.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:08:53pm

re: #191 jaunte

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:11:54pm

re: #201 HappyWarrior

Hopefully the USSC will do the right thing. That juror didn’t belong on that jury.

Good luck with that … from the Time article:

Tharpe’s case is the latest evidence of how unaffected our criminal justice system has been by the Civil Rights Movement, especially when we consider racial bias during sentencing. But do not consider his case exceptional.

Only a year ago, the Supreme Court allowed the 2016 execution of another Georgia man named Kenneth Fults, in which one juror deciding that case, Thomas Buffington, said in a sworn 2005 affidavit: “I don’t know if he [Kenneth Fults] killed anybody,” but the death penalty is “what that n***** deserved.” He was executed nonetheless.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:14:00pm

re: #207 Anymouse 🌹

Good luck with that … from the Time article:

We need a second Warren Court. Unfortunately that would take Republican presidents actually making decent judicial appointments rather than Scalia clones.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:16:12pm

re: #206 Unshaken Defiance

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It’s just so cruel. Problem is these people aren’t seen as people let alone people with rights by many Trump voters. Or they’re indifferent.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:17:44pm

In other news, a fossilised footprint thief from a site in Greece was caught, because he left his own footprint at the scene of the crime.

livescience.com

More at the link:

A man who recently stole 10 fossil footprints of ancient human relatives from a dig site in Greece failed to hide his own tracks from the police, who apprehended him last week, according to news sources.

The purloined human-like footprints, which are estimated to be 5.7 million years old, are part of a group of 40 prints in Trachilos, on the island of Crete. They were reported missing on Sept. 12 by a visitor to the location, who notified authorities that the site appeared to have been vandalized and that chunks of rock holding some of the ancient fossils had been removed, reported the Athens-Macedonian News Agency (A-MNA).

Representatives from the Natural History Museum of Crete (NHMC) inspected the site and confirmed the crime in a statement issued on Sept. 14, according to A-MNA. But the culprit wasn’t at large for long. On Sept. 15, police announced the arrest of a 55-year-old man in connection with the theft, and all of the fossils were swiftly recovered from locations in Kissamos and Thessaloniki, A-MNA reported. [Ancient Footprints to Tiny ‘Vampires’: 8 Rare and Unusual Fossils]

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:18:52pm

re: #209 HappyWarrior

It’s just so cruel. Problem is these people aren’t seen as people let alone people with rights by many Trump voters. Or they’re indifferent.

That’s beyond indifferent. Not giving that benefit of that doubt anymore. Done.

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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:20:52pm

re: #194 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Mueller is coming.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:22:04pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:26:01pm

re: #206 Unshaken Defiance

And they’re happy about it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:26:37pm

re: #211 Unshaken Defiance

That’s beyond indifferent. Not giving that benefit of that doubt anymore. Done.

No doubt. Sigh we need to be better to each other.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:27:27pm

So I hit my porch to have a smoke with my beer and the boss hummingbird finally decies he can eat despite my presence. I’m maybe 3 feet away.

Facebook Post

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:27:50pm

re: #214 GlutenFreeJesus

And they’re happy about it.

They’re down right giddy. I can’t read stories on immigration without feeling some disgust mostly at my fellow European Americans who lack any empathy at all to these people.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:28:24pm

Yet we’re supposed to feel bad for Trump voters and feel they had no choice last fall.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:31:56pm

re: #218 HappyWarrior

Yet we’re supposed to feel bad for Trump voters and feel they had no choice last fall.

That does not go well conversationally around here.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:31:59pm

I didn’t know this… .

From SimpleGuySkills blog:

Mike Cernovich and his wife went to the same law school, where she succeeded and he was a low-ranked loser. She went out into the world and became a power player in IP law and Cernovich was basically her house husband. He lived off her money before the divorce, and he’s been living off that spousal support payout ever since. Funniest part is his recent worldwide trip began right when his ex got remarried to an objectively better man-by all appearances, Cernovich has basically short-circuited over the whole thing and is now live-tweeting his resulting midlife crisis. Sorry, Cernovich, but lifting weights and calling people cuck will never be able to repair your shattered masculinity.

There are many more funny details and this is all verifiable online, but I don’t want post the ex’s info. She has been trying to get the Cernovich stink off her for years. You’re definitely right, though: Mike Cernovich is a fraud, Mike Cernovich is a loser who would be penniless without his wife, and Mike Cernovich is a professional failure who wouldn’t know how to beat a parking ticket.

simpleguyskills.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:33:17pm

re: #218 HappyWarrior

Yet we’re supposed to feel bad for Trump voters and feel they had no choice last fall.

re: #219 Unshaken Defiance

That does not go well conversationally around here.

Folks around here don’t talk about the election now to me … they don’t want to hear my responses.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:35:18pm

re: #221 Anymouse 🌹

Folks around here don’t talk about the election now to me … they don’t want to hear my responses.

At least they seem to feel bad. I know some Trumpers who are prouder than ever of their guy.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:36:23pm

re: #220 Anymouse 🌹

I didn’t know this… .

From SimpleGuySkills blog:

simpleguyskills.com

Yeah he’s pretty much a pathetic loser.

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plansbandc  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:37:22pm

re: #173 jaunte

That would kill a maggot.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:37:54pm

re: #173 jaunte

[Embedded content]

That’s peak 50’s food experimentation. We’d better invite some immigrants to come here.

Is that guacamole?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:37:56pm

re: #219 Unshaken Defiance

That does not go well conversationally around here.

I know. I just hate how the media focuses on them and immigrants don’t get the same attention. I’d love to hear them talk to my SiL’s family. People who actually earned the right to be called American rather than just being born into it like me.

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Belafon  Sep 21, 2017 • 8:53:37pm

re: #222 HappyWarrior

At least they seem to feel bad. I know some Trumpers who are prouder than ever of their guy.

The ones around me make too much money to care.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 21, 2017 • 9:03:50pm

re: #52 Anymouse 🌹

Applying the rule of “it’s projection with right-wingers, always” makes you really wonder about these guys:

And the right wing calls liberals sick?

Which liberal has advocated that? They are so ridiculous.


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