A Beautiful Drone Film: “Tuscany Dawn”

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While on tour with Al Jarreau in the 1990s, we had several days off in the Tuscany region of Italy and I got to explore the countryside for miles around (yes, even the steep hills) on a cheapo mountain bike the tour manager bought for me in France. This film brings back those days for me, and I think I even recognize some of the places.

A non-narrative short film of the beautiful landscapes in Tuscany, Italy. The region known for its rolling hills, villages, la dolce vita (the sweet life), vinyards, olives and cypress trees.
This dronefilm is shot on a 2 weeks vacation with my family. Drove out to explore the landscapes of the region, with my drone by early morning, so I could capture Tuscany by dawn.
The entire film was shot on a DJI Mavic Pro drone, with the settings +1, -3, -3 with Neat Video.
Filmed and edited by Bjarke Hvorslev Jensen
Music: Ryan Taubert - Strangers To Ourselves

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632 comments

1
jaunte  Sep 23, 2017 • 7:54:00pm

DJI Mavic Pro drone
store.dji.com

4.3 mile range, and it folds up!

2
JordanRules  Sep 23, 2017 • 7:57:30pm

Bringing over from the previous party floor.

re: #222 FormerDirtDart

What an amazing statement!!! I’m so glad he documented and released it.
Thanks for sharing.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:10:17pm

Fucking Gators man.

yah!

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Dave In Austin  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:13:43pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:14:41pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:19:12pm

re: #5 teleskiguy

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So I thought Kelly was supposed to rein in President Man Baby. What has happened? So Trump gets to say any dang thing that comes to his pea brain? And the Republican leadership stays mum.

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teleskiguy  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:19:28pm
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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:21:57pm

re: #3 Stanley Sea

Fucking Gators man.

yah!

I’m in a dark room…sick to my stomach…

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Stanley Sea  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:22:48pm

re: #8 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

I’m in a dark room…sick to my stomach…

Sorry.

Maybe next year. ha.

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Skip Intro  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:25:07pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

The difference is there weren’t crazy people in charge. I’m more worried now than I ever was back then, including the Cuban missile crisis.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:25:22pm
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Decatur Deb  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:26:40pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

Existential dread fucking sucks.

You get used to it.

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Belafon  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:27:19pm

re: #4 Dave In Austin

In the replies:

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:27:56pm

re: #11 FormerDirtDart

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You couldn’t even bother paying your child support, Joe but go ahead bitch at Stevie Wonder.

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Belafon  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:28:41pm

re: #10 Skip Intro

The difference is there weren’t crazy people in charge. I’m more worried now than I ever was back then, including the Cuban missile crisis.

Remember Ronald “A small nuclear war won’t be bad” Reagan? that was my teen years.

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makeitstop  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:30:20pm

re: #11 FormerDirtDart

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Ungrateful.

Stevie Wonder earned every damn dime he’s got, overcoming blindness to do so.

And he’s now supposed to be grateful to ambulatory lumps of shit like the idiot Joe Walsh?

That’s not how any of this works, deadbeat.

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Belafon  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:32:09pm

re: #16 makeitstop

Ungrateful.

Stevie Wonder earned every damn dime he’s got, overcoming blindness to do so.

And he’s now supposed to be grateful to ambulatory lumps of shit like the idiot Joe Walsh?

That’s not how any of this works, deadbeat.

Once again, a black man who ought to be their ideal of an American.

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Jay C  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:32:37pm

re: #6 Patricia Kayden

So I thought Kelly was supposed to rein in President Man Baby. What has happened? So Trump gets to say any dang thing that comes to his pea brain? And the Republican leadership stays mum.

Why would you think that? YMMV, but my feeling has always been that Kelly was brought in to organize and ride herd over The White House (i.e. the Executive-Branch staff) and not the President personally. Theoretically, perhaps: but by now, Gen. Kelly has got to realize that Trump is a lost cause, and the best he is going to be able to do at the WH is try to keep the leaks and internecine quarrels out of the media, keep the day-to-day governmental “business” running as smoothly as possible, and put a lid on any simmering scandals. Of course, Trump is likely to fuck things up for his CoS just by being Donald Trump, but there you go…

And of course the “Republican leadership” is going to stay quiet: they’re still holding out hope that they can slip the billionaires’ tax break (which is, naturally, their only priority) onto Trump’s desk sometime before the next elections: even if they (finally!) realize what an incompetent President they’ve saddled the country and themselves with…..

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:33:48pm

re: #11 FormerDirtDart

Ungrateful? For what? He EARNED that money.

EDIT: And now I see it was already said and better.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:36:18pm

re: #19 Jebediah, RBG

Ungrateful? For what? He EARNED that money.

It all comes back to that idea that black people should be grateful for being brought to and enslaved in America, and not left in “Deepest Darkest Africa”.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:38:30pm
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:38:35pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:44:59pm

re: #18 Jay C

I’m laughing at your last paragraph. Trump hates McConnell’s guts and was easily tricked into siding with Pelosi and Schumer over Ryan and McConnell vis-a-vis the debt ceiling. Good luck to the GOP in getting anything substantial out of Trump before Mueller gets to him.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:46:07pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:47:54pm

Hmmmmm…..

6 hours later - 4 in the Weber, and 2 in the oven - and the brisket is stuck at 170 degrees. It doesn’t seem to want to go up to 195, like the book says.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:49:14pm

re: #21 FormerDirtDart

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What a gasbag.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:49:29pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:50:46pm

Let’s remember what the former President said about Kaepernick a year ago…

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:56:22pm

re: #28 Joe Bacon 🌹

Let’s remember what the former President said about Kaepernick a year ago…

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So in other words, how an adult responded to it.

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nines09  Sep 23, 2017 • 8:57:22pm

You Got Guts? I dare you…..Double dog dare you…
This puppy works. Period. Back in the day we had 4ft UV banks and I saw some shit….as it purportedly killed that shit….

And I am NOT exaggerating. After you freak yourself out at home, go to a public restroom where you can kill the lights, and then kill yourself….Have a neatfreak friend? Take pictures. Tell them the proof will be posted online if that pony pulls up lame.
Go ahead. I dare you. Then the next motel/hotel room you book….
Go….ahead….
You have been warned.
For my next trick, I’m scanning the next crowd we play for…..
hoo hooo…

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teleskiguy  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:00:57pm

Yeah, very funny. Ha ha ha. I fuckin’ hate people sometimes.

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Belafon  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:01:46pm

re: #30 nines09

You Got Guts? I dare you…..Double dog dare you…
This puppy works. Period. Back in the day we had 4ft UV banks and I saw some shit….as it purportedly killed that shit….

And I am NOT exaggerating. After you freak yourself out at home, go to a public restroom where you can kill the lights, and then kill yourself….Have a neatfreak friend? Take pictures. Tell them the proof will be posted online if that pony pulls up lame.
Go ahead. I dare you. Then the next motel/hotel room you book….
Go….ahead….
You have been warned.
For my next trick, I’m scanning the next crowd we play for…..
hoo hooo…

There are some things I don’t think humans should actually look too deeply into.

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Belafon  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:02:14pm

re: #31 teleskiguy

Yeah, very funny. Ha ha ha. I fuckin’ hate people sometimes.

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My 17 year old has a shirt with duck & cover on it.

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teleskiguy  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:03:34pm

re: #33 Belafon

My 17 year old has a shirt with duck & cover on it.

Is that supposed to be funny?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:04:53pm

re: #28 Joe Bacon 🌹

Let’s remember what the former President said about Kaepernick a year ago…

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I miss him.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:06:39pm

re: #33 Belafon

My 17 year old has a shirt with duck & cover on it.

Duck And Cover (1951) Bert The Turtle Civil Defense Film

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nines09  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:06:53pm

re: #32 Belafon

But you will wash your hands so much more thoroughly.
Nite all.
Tomorrow is Sunday. After the Republicans absolve themselves from greed and fuckery, they will be good with fucking people for a living the next 6 days…It is written.
So shall it fall.

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teleskiguy  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:08:42pm
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Belafon  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:09:24pm

re: #34 teleskiguy

Is that supposed to be funny?

It is what it is. They made a song out of it back then so that you would know what to do. A totally pointless move, as I’ve explained to my kids (they make that point in the Iron Giant). It was meant as a way of controlling the population if a nuclear war actually occurred.

I grew up talking during tennis class about what we would do if the missiles were launched. My view on nukes is that you treat their reality in the same way you treat the possibility of getting in a car crash.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:09:48pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

I miss him.

So do I.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:13:14pm

re: #40 Ace Rothstein

So do I.

He’s a great man and president.

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Belafon  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:13:22pm

Neal Stephenson uses a similar idea in Seven Eves. Everyone’s been told that they have about 3 years to live. But, to keep the world from going into a complete panic, the governments task people with collecting things about the world, pictures, videos, vegetation samples, DNA. Most of it thrown out, but it gives people a purpose.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:17:04pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:20:12pm

re: #5 teleskiguy

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:23:31pm

re: #24 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:25:18pm

re: #25 Blind Frog Belly White

Hmmmmm…..

6 hours later - 4 in the Weber, and 2 in the oven - and the brisket is stuck at 170 degrees. It doesn’t seem to want to go up to 195, like the book says.

So, I cover it with foil, and go to fetch The Older Boy, who has just finished his shift. Come back. Open up the foil Everywhere i test, 195.

Okay, so now it’s tented and resting.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:28:06pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

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“…..they won’t be around much longer.”

This is real Idi Amin leadership territory.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:29:09pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

“…..they won’t be around much longer.”

This is real Idi Amin leadership territory.

It’s disturbing.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:31:48pm

A reminder that there is a Trump tweet for every occasion.
And, sometimes they’re not that old…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:32:57pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

“…..they won’t be around much longer.”

This is real Idi Amin leadership territory.

We now know that IDIOT Amin is in the Oval Office!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:33:44pm

re: #48 HappyWarrior

It’s disturbing.

How the fuck is any other nation supposed to deal with us? On the one hand you have Tillerson saying ‘We don’t want regime change’, and on the the other, you have his boss saying this shit?

You know, international diplomacy isn’t a fucking reality show, and Kim Jong Un is not about to step back because you call him a stupid name. In the Republican Primaries, his opponents were constrained by normalcy from responding to his namecalling and bluster. KJU has no such constraint.

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allegro  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:37:17pm

re: #51 Blind Frog Belly White

How the fuck is any other nation supposed to deal with us?

They can’t and they know it. We just have to hope that they can protect themselves.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:38:18pm

re: #51 Blind Frog Belly White

How the fuck is any other nation supposed to deal with us? On the one hand you have Tillerson saying ‘We don’t want regime change’, and on the the other, you have his boss saying this shit?

You know, international diplomacy isn’t a fucking reality show, and Kim Jong Un is not about to step back because you call him a stupid name. In the Republican Primaries, his opponents were constrained by normalcy from responding to his namecalling and bluster. KJU has no such constraint.

He’s a diplomat’s nightmare.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:41:05pm

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:41:11pm

re: #52 allegro

They can’t and they know it. We just have to hope that they can protect themselves.

The thing that drives me up a fucking wall about this is that the 35% LOVE THIS! They think this is how you SHOULD deal with other countries. It’s not just that they’re stupid. It’s that they’re stuck in high school, where the bullies and jocks get the hot girls and it’s all about DOMINATING!!!

Except Trump’s really only able to dominate people who need him. And a lot of countries are going to stop seeing the US as The Essential Country, because we were only essential to making the postwar world of alliances work. If we can’t be relied on for that, well then, we’re not really essential anymore.

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Belafon  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:41:23pm

re: #51 Blind Frog Belly White

How the fuck is any other nation supposed to deal with us? On the one hand you have Tillerson saying ‘We don’t want regime change’, and on the the other, you have his boss saying this shit?

You know, international diplomacy isn’t a fucking reality show, and Kim Jong Un is not about to step back because you call him a stupid name. In the Republican Primaries, his opponents were constrained by normalcy from responding to his namecalling and bluster. KJU has no such constraint.

Eventually, the other major countries will start ignoring him. I suspect the response to the US pulling out of the Iran deal will be along the lines of “What country?” Then the response to NK will be for Japan and South Korea to start listening to China.

And thus, America will be made great again.

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BeachDem  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:46:25pm

re: #28 Joe Bacon 🌹

Let’s remember what the former President said about Kaepernick a year ago…

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Belafon  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:51:50pm

re: #57 BeachDem

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I’m hoping Howie Long’s son and others join them.

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teleskiguy  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:52:54pm

Hidden because, well, you’ll see. It’s barely safe for work.

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BeachDem  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:56:03pm
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BigPapa  Sep 23, 2017 • 9:56:44pm

re: #59 teleskiguy

That’s a whole bucket of win.

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austin_blue  Sep 23, 2017 • 10:00:54pm

re: #12 Decatur Deb

You get used to it.

Yes, you do. But you never get to like it.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 23, 2017 • 10:01:59pm

Ketchup sandwiches and other things stupid poor people eat
This is a very powerful article about the working poor. The title is an ironic riff on the scorn directed at the working poor by self-congratulating status seekers and judgemental conservatives. I did ketchup sandwiches when I was a kid, though mayo was more common. Fried cornbread with molasses was another meal I remember. My mother represented it as a kind of treat. My younger siblings bought into that but I was 11 by then and knew it was really all she could come up with. My 4th grade teacher, Mrs. Buller (who is still alive by the way) used to regularly send packets of soap, toothpaste, and shampoo home with me. I still have food hoarding issues and must fight that impulse, even though I could buy a whole supermarket now if I wanted to. I did buy my own farm, come to think of it.

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prairiefire  Sep 23, 2017 • 10:18:48pm

re: #63 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Bless Mrs. Buller.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 23, 2017 • 10:26:02pm

re: #64 prairiefire

Bless Mrs. Buller.

She’s 96 now. I still exchange email and greeting cards with her, and visit when I’m in Colorado. She thinks I was a pretty good investment for society. Her approval still means the world to me.

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prairiefire  Sep 23, 2017 • 10:27:55pm

re: #65 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

So cool. Just imagine all the other kids she helped along the way. Good to concentrate on positive people in these times.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 23, 2017 • 10:29:02pm
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DodgerFan1988  Sep 23, 2017 • 10:32:13pm

I remembered 17 years ago when the Zimbabwean dictator Robert Mugabe cracked down and arrested opposition members, he used the same argument that the protesters were against the flag and the military veterans.

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austin_blue  Sep 23, 2017 • 10:33:36pm

She Who Must Be Obeyed had a gig tonight with her Americana/Western Swing band. John Burnett, who sits in whenever he is in town and plays with them when he is not on assignment was scheduled to be in Mexico City, but we found out yesterday he was going to be here. John is the best harmonica player in Austin, brilliant. Visited with him and he is going to Puerto Rico on Monday.

NPR got him $3500 in walking around money because there is no power and the entire island is now a cash/barter economy (no ATMs- think about it). I asked him about comms and he said they had arranged a Sat Phone, but that it had not arrived today, as it was supposed to, and they’d try to get him one when he connects in Miami for the San Juan hop.

John’s pretty pissed about the benign neglect exhibited so far by the US Gov’t about how they treat US citizens in PR and Virgin Islands, and he pulls no punches in his reporting. Expect a fair amount of fire and brimstone starting Monday or Tuesday from NPR on the subject.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 23, 2017 • 10:37:17pm
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prairiefire  Sep 23, 2017 • 10:37:27pm

re: #69 austin_blue

Good!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 23, 2017 • 10:38:27pm

Well, after 6 1/2 hours in the Weber and the oven, and half an hour resting, the brisket looked like this…

So, I sliced it up, and it looked like this….

Here are some slices from each end, with some forgettable potato salad and extremely disappointing cole slaw, both from Safeway…

I had bought some barbecue sauces to go with the meat - you know, just in case it was no good? Nobody touched them. Mrs. FBW declared she wanted to eat it till she exploded. The Older Boy gave it two thumbs up, and hinted that he’d buy me a Weber Smokey Mountain smoker for my birfday, and The Younger Boy made me very happy when he said that he likes ALL my barbecue just as it is, with no sauce (and he LOVES barbecue sauce!).

We’ll see how long this lasts. I suspect a lot will be gone by tomorrow morning….

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Dave In Austin  Sep 23, 2017 • 10:41:39pm

re: #30 nines09

Will it find cool rocks and scorpions as well?

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austin_blue  Sep 23, 2017 • 10:42:59pm

re: #72 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, after 6 1/2 hours in the Weber and the oven, and half an hour resting, the brisket looked like this…

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I had bought some barbecue sauces to go with the meat - you know, just in case it was no good? Nobody touched them. Mrs. FBW declared she wanted to eat it till she exploded. The Older Boy gave it two thumbs up, and hinted that he’d buy me a Weber Smokey Mountain smoker for my birfday, and The Younger Boy made me very happy when he said that he likes ALL my barbecue just as it is, with no sauce (and he LOVES barbecue sauce!).

We’ll see how long this lasts. I suspect a lot will be gone by tomorrow morning….

Meat! Meat good!!

Nice bark. Good penetration. Good color. I’ll give it three and half forks up. Well done!

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majii  Sep 23, 2017 • 10:45:00pm

re: #11 FormerDirtDart

In re to Walsh: “Another ungrateful black multi millionaire.”

Do I detect a hint of jealousy in his response?

Yes, yes, I do. LMBO.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 23, 2017 • 10:49:33pm

re: #74 austin_blue

Meat! Meat good!!

Nice bark. Good penetration. Good color. I’ll give it three and half forks up. Well done!

I confess, I had no idea whether it would be good, or dreck. I do think it could benefit from more time at a lower temp, though. Mostly it was a bit above 300, as per the recipe, but I know that the Pros generally go closer to the 225-250 range, and almost twice the time. Hard to do in a Weber kettle, though! Choking it down below 300 is on the hairy edge of putting the fire out completely!

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Belafon  Sep 23, 2017 • 10:49:38pm

re: #63 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Ketchup sandwiches and other things stupid poor people eat
This is a very powerful article about the working poor. The title is an ironic riff on the scorn directed at the working poor by self-congratulating status seekers and judgemental conservatives. I did ketchup sandwiches when I was a kid, though mayo was more common. Fried cornbread with molasses was another meal I remember. My mother represented it as a kind of treat. My younger siblings bought into that but I was 11 by then and knew it was really all she could come up with. My 4th grade teacher, Mrs. Buller (who is still alive by the way) used to regularly send packets of soap, toothpaste, and shampoo home with me. I still have food hoarding issues and must fight that impulse, even though I could buy a whole supermarket now if I wanted to. I did buy my own farm, come to think of it.

We did mayonnaise sandwiches when I was a kid; if we were lucky, we had a slice of American cheese to put in them. I would also cover a piece of bread in barbecue sauce and stick it in the microwave for 10 seconds. Sometimes, late at night, I would make a ball of dough with flour, sugar, and water, and eat it.

I don’t have an issue with hoarding. Mine’s knowing when to stop eating. I’m not huge, but I’m about 45 pounds overweight, and I cannot eat the right amount to lose it. I’m also not overweight enough to qualify for any kind of gastric surgery.

Edit: After reading the article a bit, I will say we weren’t that poor. But my parents had three teenagers, and one serving of anything just didn’t feel like enough. I did go with my dad to mow yards so we would have money to eat that night.

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Nyet  Sep 23, 2017 • 10:55:15pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 23, 2017 • 10:55:34pm

Some light reading, an article from December.

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Belafon  Sep 23, 2017 • 10:59:49pm

I used to describe us as barely middle-class.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 23, 2017 • 11:00:06pm

re: #79 teleskiguy

Some light reading, an article from December.

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I don’t know whether I’m being fatalist (“If it happens, it happens”) or I’m in denial (“It won’t happen”), but I think growing up with it constantly in the background as a possibility from before I was born until I was ~33 years old may have blunted my reaction to it.

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mmmirele  Sep 23, 2017 • 11:04:49pm

re: #63 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Peanut butter and butter (margarine) sandwiches when I was a girl. God, that was like trying to swallow a stick of margarine. My mother told me as an adult that it was because she didn’t like us eating so much jelly, but I rather doubt it. We also had lunchmeat sandwiches out of the cheaper cuts of meat—bologna, pepper salami and olive loaf. And the ubiquitous 25 cents a loaf, completely full of air, white bread from the grocery store. I can’t eat any of that stuff today because of the bad food memories.

On the other hand, I rather miss the pot of pinto beans and ham hocks my mother would make when it was cooler. Except it was pretty salty, probably not especially healthy today.

ETA: My dad growing up on the farm (sharecropping) used to take butter sandwiches to school. Just butter. We kids were given to believe we had it good because our sandwiches had peanut butter on them as well.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 23, 2017 • 11:18:26pm

re: #82 mmmirele

Peanut butter and butter (margarine) sandwiches when I was a girl. God, that was like trying to swallow a stick of margarine. My mother told me as an adult that it was because she didn’t like us eating so much jelly, but I rather doubt it. We also had lunchmeat sandwiches out of the cheaper cuts of meat—bologna, pepper salami and olive loaf. And the ubiquitous 25 cents a loaf, completely full of air, white bread from the grocery store. I can’t eat any of that stuff today because of the bad food memories.

On the other hand, I rather miss the pot of pinto beans and ham hocks my mother would make when it was cooler. Except it was pretty salty, probably not especially healthy today.

ETA: My dad growing up on the farm (sharecropping) used to take butter sandwiches to school. Just butter. We kids were given to believe we had it good because our sandwiches had peanut butter on them as well.

I still cook pinto beans, though without the ham hocks. Cornbread and some kind of greens (usually fresh spinach) complete the picture. Fried potatoes used to be required as well but I have learned to do without them. My daughters know the back story, of course, but they still see my fondness for cheap but nutritious food as an eccentricity. To me it recalls my mother’s ingenuity and dedication in quelling the pangs of hunger

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 23, 2017 • 11:21:49pm

re: #25 Blind Frog Belly White

Hmmmmm…..

6 hours later - 4 in the Weber, and 2 in the oven - and the brisket is stuck at 170 degrees. It doesn’t seem to want to go up to 195, like the book says.

That’s called “The Stall”. You just gotta ride it out, man.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Sep 23, 2017 • 11:25:16pm

re: #81 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t know whether I’m being fatalist (“If it happens, it happens”) or I’m in denial (“It won’t happen”), but I think growing up with it constantly in the background as a possibility from before I was born until I was ~33 years old may have blunted my reaction to it.

We Cold War babies are used to that particular existential dread.

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austin_blue  Sep 23, 2017 • 11:27:06pm

re: #85 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

We Cold War babies are used to that particular existential dread.

Yup. Duck and cover!

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Sep 23, 2017 • 11:29:51pm

re: #82 mmmirele

Peanut butter and butter (margarine) sandwiches when I was a girl.

My family was comfortably middle class, but certain members of it ate peanut butter and mayonnaise sandwiches by choice. I shudder (still).

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Sep 23, 2017 • 11:34:10pm

re: #86 austin_blue

Yup. Duck and cover!

I grew up in CA, and it seems to me that we were told that those were earthquake drills.

(Almost midnight here, and I need to go to bed.)

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Amory Blaine  Sep 23, 2017 • 11:38:41pm

My view right now.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 23, 2017 • 11:42:54pm

WTF

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 23, 2017 • 11:54:48pm

re: #88 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I grew up in CA, and it seems to me that we were told that those were earthquake drills.

(Almost midnight here, and I need to go to bed.)

… and they would pull the dark thick curtains closed to protect from flying glass from the quake.

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teleskiguy  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:52:11am
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:47:31am

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(Bert the Turtle)  Sep 24, 2017 • 4:01:51am

re: #36 Big Beautiful Door

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Yikes.. looks like I picked a good night to see It.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 24, 2017 • 5:03:35am

re: #33 Belafon

My 17 year old has a shirt with duck & cover on it.

I misread that as “my 17 year old shirt….” I still have 10K race shirts from the 1980s. None say “duck and cover,” though.

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Jay C  Sep 24, 2017 • 5:11:33am

re: #43 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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Well, tbh, it looks like the Prince is merely pulling his jacket closed: Satan notwithstanding- but one thing does stand out: IIJM, or does Harry seem to have very large hands?
Is that why Melania is smiling so broadly?

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jeffreyw  Sep 24, 2017 • 5:16:05am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 24, 2017 • 5:24:27am

re: #60 BeachDem

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Powerful.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 5:26:36am

re: #99 Patricia Kayden

Powerful.

He was a veteran too. A veteran who had gotten in trouble during his service because he refused to conform to segregation.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 24, 2017 • 5:33:08am

re: #63 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Interesting article but I assume that many of those Conservatives either are poor themselves (red states take more from the Federal government than blue states) or were raised poor. Their ire isn’t against White poor folks on the dole but targeted against those Black/Brown folk who have the temerity to need Federal assistance from time to time.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 24, 2017 • 5:34:26am

re: #46 Blind Frog Belly White

So, I cover it with foil, and go to fetch The Older Boy, who has just finished his shift. Come back. Open up the foil Everywhere i test, 195.

Okay, so now it’s tented and resting.

You’re always going to hit a temperature pause when cooking long and slow. That is one of the most important times. Collagen is melting making that melt in the mouth goodness. There’s good solid physical chemistry reasons why. Don’t force it, it’ll get there correctly.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 24, 2017 • 5:37:50am

re: #101 Patricia Kayden

Interesting article but I assume that many of those Conservatives either are poor themselves (red states take more from the Federal government than blue states) or were raised poor. Their ire isn’t against White poor folks on the dole but targeted against those Black/Brown who have the temerity to need Federal assistance from time to time.

The only reason the government feeds us is to make us dependent on them and docile.

/

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 24, 2017 • 5:39:35am

re: #100 HappyWarrior

He was a veteran too. A veteran who had gotten in trouble during his service because he refused to conform to segregation.

When I was in Brooklyn in August, I saw that a museum focusing on his life is set to open (not sure when). Looking forward to visiting. Although I no longer watch baseball, I’ve always admired Mr. Robinson’s legacy and loved the movie “42”.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 5:44:17am

re: #104 Patricia Kayden

When I was in Brooklyn in August, I saw that a museum focusing on his life is set to open (not sure when). Looking forward to visiting. Although I no longer watch baseball, I’ve always admired Mr. Robinson’s legacy and loved the movie “42”.

He was a hero in so many ways. I love baseball. Even was at a game last night. Didn’t get in time for the anthem though. To me though, the experience last night was what America should be all about, I was with my folks and my sister in law’s sister and her husband. The latter two are immigrants. Although their native countries aren’t big baseball countries, they enjoy going to the games and I consider them family as they do me. They’re the human face of why I proudly defend immigrants.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 5:44:48am

Posted this morning on FB. I don’t care if I lose FB friends over it:

Re: the National Anthem. I’ve always stood for it and I honestly find it a moving experience as I feel my heart beats. But I also feel one should have the freedom not to stand. People talk about how these athletes are disrespecting the troops. Uh guys, we fought against totalitarian regimes that mandated patriotism. What separates us from them if we’re going to be attacking people who choose not to stand. Regimes like Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, Saddam’s Iraq, and yep Kim’s North Korea mandated patriotism. I’m much more bothered by a President who has said he liked service members who didn’t get captured or who attacked the ethnicity of a judge judging his case than someone who chooses to bring attention to what they see as an important issue. People have been told “protest peacefully and quietly” and I can think of nothing more peaceful and quiet than kneeling during the National Anthem. I mean I get it if you don’t like it but free speech does not mean popular speech. I respect the sacrifices our military has made which is exactly why I strongly support the right to kneel. To me, there’s no contradiction at all with that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:00:01am

re: #106 HappyWarrior

Posted this morning on FB. I don’t care if I lose FB friends over it:

The NFL is an association of privately owned clubs.

So if you have a problem with players kneeling for the SSB, then organize a boycott of the NFL until they pass a league rule making it mandatory to stand for the National Anthem.

Odd that this approach is rarely if ever mentioned…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:03:15am

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The NFL is an association of privately owned clubs.

So if you have a problem with players kneeling for the SSB, then organize a boycott the NFL until they pass a league rule making it mandatory to stand for the National Anthem.

Odd that this approach is rarely if ever mentioned…

No kidding. I mean I get it if people don’t like it but you know what, I don’t like rah rah patriotism either but I ain’t trying to destroy the livelihood or attack the patriotism of those that engage in it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:05:43am

To me, disrespecting the troops is telling people they shouldn’t be able to kneel. Maybe I have no place as a non-veteran to say that but it really upsets me that even many veterans don’t get this. Y’all fought against tyrannical regimes. Those regimes you fought had the mindset that Trump does on dissidents. I mean I get it if it personally bothers you but at the same time, a lot of things personally bother me but at the same time, I concede a lot of them are legal. In the end, we have a President who was more bothered by kneeling for the national anthem than white supremacist terrorist acts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:05:48am

re: #108 HappyWarrior

No kidding. I mean I get it if people don’t like it but you know what, I don’t like rah rah patriotism either but I ain’t trying to destroy the livelihood or attack the patriotism of those that engage in it.

I first saw a similar quote here, cannot remember from whom, but the gist of it is that people who fixate the most on outward symbols and ritual social displays (flag lapel pins, guns, public prayer, crucifixes) are often the ones who totally fail to grasp the underlying concept.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:16:38am

re: #110 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I first saw a similar quote here, cannot remember from whom, but the gist of it is that people who fixate the most on outward symbols and ritual social displays (flag lapel pins, guns, public prayer, crucifixes) are often the ones who totally fail to grasp the underlying concept.

Yeah, that is a great point. It’s about what those symbols represents that’s important. That’s why they’re symbols. Trump attacks what they represent on a daily basis.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:23:42am
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lawhawk  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:23:56am

re: #67 Ace-o-aces

Doubly so when the flag is the flag of traitorous insurrectionists from the Confederacy.

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I cannot.  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:24:18am

You ever fondly remember shows from your childhood then go back and wonder how did that ever get on children’s TV?

Yeah, I’m binge watching Voltron, Defender of the Universe now (the 1984 Lion Force Voltron), holy hell, that was some dark, dark shit.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:28:44am

re: #109 HappyWarrior

To me, disrespecting the troops is telling people they shouldn’t be able to kneel. Maybe I have no place as a non-veteran to say that but it really upsets me that even many veterans don’t get this. Y’all fought against tyrannical regimes. Those regimes you fought had the mindset that Trump does on dissidents. I mean I get it if it personally bothers you but at the same time, a lot of things personally bother me but at the same time, I concede a lot of them are legal. In the end, we have a President who was more bothered by kneeling for the national anthem than white supremacist terrorist acts.

I really despise the idea that the Pledge of Allegiance, the National Ensign, or the National Anthem are touted almost exclusively by conservatives (but not by all conservatives) as “respect for the troops or veterans.”

Respect is earned, not given, and being a veteran is no more or less worthy of respect than a nurse, a politician, a farmer, or anyone else.

Title 4 of the USC outlines the patriotic symbols and customs of the nation. Nowhere in that title is enforcement authority for failure to follow the guidelines (and they are guidelines) of the Flag Code, the symbols of government, the National Anthem, &c.

In what one could argue as the nation’s last existential war (WW2), the Supreme Court held in West Virginia Board of Education v. Barnette 1943 that the government cannot compel salutes to the American flag or compel recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance (which didn’t have that “Under God” part at the time either when millions of troops were fighting a war).

The best way to honour troops or veterans if that is what someone wants to do is hold the government’s feet to the fire and demand it keep its promises. “Thank you for your service” is not honouring the troops. I appreciate the sentiment, but has no more force than wishing someone “Merry Christmas.”

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:28:55am

Morning from Jacksonville.
Ravens & Jaguars taking the field in London.
Commencing my almost continuous consumption of Sportsball for something like the next 14 hours

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:30:27am

re: #116 FormerDirtDart

Morning from Jacksonville.
Ravens & Jaguars taking the field in London.
Commencing my almost continuous consumption of Sportsball for something like the next 14 hours

How’s the flooding in Jax? I haven’t heard from my son since Hurricane Irma went through the area.

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JordanRules  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:31:57am
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:32:53am

30% of Americans believe we should bomb a made up country from the movie “Aladdin.”

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:33:24am

Between the Ravens and the Jaguars there must be over 20 players taking a knee.
Every other player is standing with their arms interlocked with one another.

Now everyone standing as normal for God Save the Queen

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:34:47am

re: #109 HappyWarrior

To me, disrespecting the troops is telling people they shouldn’t be able to kneel. Maybe I have no place as a non-veteran to say that but it really upsets me that even many veterans don’t get this.

You absolutely have a right as a non-veteran to say that. I took my affirmation to uphold and defend the Constitution (both as a seaman and as a local politician) to mean the whole Constitution and every person under its jurisdiction.

I am not offended when a person does not uphold one of the prescribed patriotic formulae of 4 USC. The I Amendment is part of what I affirmed I would uphold and defend, not 4 USC.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:37:04am

re: #119 Barefoot Grin

Why am I not surprised?

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:37:40am

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹

How’s the flooding in Jax? I haven’t heard from my son since Hurricane Irma went through the area.

There was no flooding in my area, downtown was seriously effected. Along with many areas along tributaries feeding into the St. Johns.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:39:20am

Jaguars owner & Trump donor

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:40:10am

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹

You absolutely have a right as a non-veteran to say that. I took my affirmation to uphold and defend the Constitution (both as a seaman and as a local politician) to mean the whole Constitution and every person under its jurisdiction.

I am not offended when a person does not uphold one of the prescribed patriotic formulae of 4 USC. The I Amendment is part of what I affirmed I would uphold and defend, not 4 USC.

Thanks man.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:41:34am

re: #124 FormerDirtDart

Jaguars owner & Trump donor

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Didn’t know Khan was a Trump donor.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:42:35am
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No Depression  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:46:23am

re: #127 FormerDirtDart

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There’s gonna be a ton of blood-splattered walls in America today from all the exploding heads.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:46:36am

Bob Kraft is a YUGE Trump supporter.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:48:03am

re: #129 FormerDirtDart

And the uncouth one wants to know why he is not popular.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:49:05am

He really stepped in it.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:50:14am

re: #119 Barefoot Grin

30% of Americans believe we should bomb a made up country from the movie “Aladdin.”

Can’t tell if this is a random non-fact you’re stating or if it’s from a real poll…

Not sarc

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No Depression  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:50:39am

re: #132 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Can’t tell if this is a random non-fact you’re stating or if it’s from a real poll…

Not sarc

Real poll.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:50:42am

re: #132 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Can’t tell if this is a random non-fact you’re stating or if it’s from a real poll…

Not sarc

The latter I’m fairly certain.

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makeitstop  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:51:38am

re: #131 HappyWarrior

He really stepped in it.

He really did. And as dumb as he is, he’s only going to double down, which will make things worse.

I sincerely hope he’s enjoying the new experience of people from all over the country telling him to go fuck himself. He’d better get used to it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:52:11am

re: #125 HappyWarrior

Thanks man.

De nada.

My village board has me lead recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance before the start of board meetings (personally I would rather just get to government business but I am not going to raise a stink about it), because I’m the veteran on the board. (We used to have four.) They do not object to me dropping the “Under God” part when I start the Pledge. As far as I’m concerned, anyone could do that (thinking about that, I might make a suggestion to the board that portion of the agenda be opened up to anyone attending the meeting.)

If you look around on YouTube, you can find a large number of videos of city council meetings where (almost always a Republican) will try to abuse authority as a mayor our councilmember and have someone ejected or arrested for failure to stand for the Pledge or recite it. (There are also many videos of councilmembers who file out when someone other than a Christian gives an invocation.)

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:52:14am

OK, the NFL Network is pretty much mooning Trump here

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:54:26am

re: #133 No Depression

Real poll.

Please to kill me now.

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:57:09am

re: #116 FormerDirtDart

Morning from Jacksonville.
Ravens & Jaguars taking the field in London.
Commencing my almost continuous consumption of Sportsball for something like the next 14 hours

Is this game even on TV? I looked at ESPN and they had nothing mentioned on their game schedules for today.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:58:13am

re: #139 ObserverArt

Is this game even on TV? I looked at ESPN and they had nothing mentioned on their game schedules for today.

NFL Network probably. First home game for the London Jaguars today.

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JordanRules  Sep 24, 2017 • 6:59:38am

re: #139 ObserverArt

Might be streaming only.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:00:10am

flailing…

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No Depression  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:00:17am

re: #137 FormerDirtDart

OK, the NFL Network is pretty much mooning Trump here

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I haven’t been this moved by the national anthem in a while. Guess that makes me a shitty patriot./

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:00:35am

re: #141 JordanRules

Might be streaming only.

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Streaming and on CBS in Baltimore and Jacksonville.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:01:14am

re: #132 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Can’t tell if this is a random non-fact you’re stating or if it’s from a real poll…

Not sarc

re: #138 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Please to kill me now.

It was a real poll:

washingtonpost.com

A recent Public Policy Polling survey found that 30% of Republicans and 19% of Democrats say they support “bombing Agrabah” - the fictional nation portrayed in the Disney movie Aladdin. This is not a surprising result.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:01:27am

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

flailing…

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The games are so boring that you were slobbering all over Tom Brady and a bunch of other NFL players knobs because you wanted to show how “hip” and “cool” you were last fall.

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JordanRules  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:01:44am

re: #144 HappyWarrior

Oh yeah! I forgot about the locals. LOL

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:02:01am

He has a child’s way of responding to things. It sucks if I don’t like it!

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:02:46am

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

flailing…

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And, there goes the President violating the I Amendment again.

I’d pay good money to see the NFL Players Union and the ACLU sue over this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:04:13am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:05:24am

Hey why won’t any of these athletes do anything about the inner city? // Have the game streaming and they just talked about the Ravens helping a school that was about to close out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:05:47am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:07:47am

dying here…
:D

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:08:09am

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹

You absolutely have a right as a non-veteran to say that. I took my affirmation to uphold and defend the Constitution (both as a seaman and as a local politician) to mean the whole Constitution and every person under its jurisdiction.

I am not offended when a person does not uphold one of the prescribed patriotic formulae of 4 USC. The I Amendment is part of what I affirmed I would uphold and defend, not 4 USC.

I note your oath was to protect the U.S. Constitution…not the flag.

I wish people would fully understand this, like Senator Ben Sasse and a whole bunch of politicians that should know this, probably do actually, but use it as a political tool.

Like The Big Orange Tool in the White House.

I haven’t read through the entire thread dp maybe someone has posted the tweet. Local news showed a tweet where Trump was saying this morning the fans of NFL football should reuse to go to the games and it would force the change in owners making the players stand and be good little boys.

I bet the NFL is just loving that directive.

And I am sure any complaints about that will be met with “hey libtards this is no different than you calling sponsors of O’Rielly and other conservatives and getting them fired.”

Oh, America…why are we so ignorant?

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:08:26am

Americans ofttimes show up as real dumb bunnies on polls:

80% of Americans Support Mandatory Labels on Foods Containing DNA (Goes to Consumer Affairs, more at the link):

According to a recent survey (available in .pdf form here) by the Oklahoma State University Department of Agricultural Economics, over 80% of Americans said they would support “mandatory labels on foods containing DNA,” roughly the same number that support the mandatory labeling of GMO foods “produced with genetic engineering.”

Oklahoma State’s “Food Demand Survey,” called FooDS, is an online monthly survey which “tracks consumer preferences and sentiments on the safety, quality, and price of food at home and away from home with particular focus on meat demand,” according to the survey itself.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:09:35am

re: #132 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Can’t tell if this is a random non-fact you’re stating or if it’s from a real poll…

Not sarc

twitter.com

This is retweet from Garry Trudeau’s satirical Roland Hedley, Jr., but the poll is real.

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:11:13am

re: #129 FormerDirtDart

Bob Kraft is a YUGE Trump supporter.

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Why I am not at all impressed by a comment from Kraft?

He supposedly knows Trump well. Either he doesn’t or he was covering for his behavior for a long time.

Nope. Sorry Bob, Tommy, Bill…deaf ears here. I have you on my Trump enablers list.

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No Depression  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:11:46am

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

flailing…

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To quote the band Rage Against the Machine: FUCK YOU I WON’T DO WHAT YA TELL ME!

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:11:54am

re: #155 Anymouse 🌹

::: rolling eyes :::
This is the result of having so called teachers who have degrees in Educational Theory rather than someone who is rooted in their subject.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:12:10am

re: #156 Barefoot Grin

twitter.com

This is retweet from Garry Trudeau’s satirical Roland Hedley, Jr., but the poll is real.

Whoops, sorry.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:12:15am

re: #139 ObserverArt

Is this game even on TV? I looked at ESPN and they had nothing mentioned on their game schedules for today.

re: #140 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

NFL Network probably. First home game for the London Jaguars today.

re: #141 JordanRules

Might be streaming only.

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Streaming on Yahoo, but also televised on CBS here in Jacksonville and I believe Baltimore areas
Since I’m in JAX, watching on TV

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:14:32am

re: #154 ObserverArt

If conservatives who make a religion out of the US flag want to boycott the NFL, they absolutely have the right to do so. While they’re at it, they can boycott other sports to which this is also spreading.

I suppose if they really wanted to “stick it to the libs,” they could start watching curling competitions on Canadian television. (Nothing against curling or Canada, but I imagine a conservative sputtering and choking on that idea.)

Like most conservative boycotts, it wouldn’t last more than a week, but the whigning would last for a long long time.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:16:47am

They’ll talk about how they’re boycotting but then we’ll see their whining on NFL and ESPN articles. And we’ll hear from Trump about how the game is just awful awful.

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:18:27am

re: #135 makeitstop

He really did. And as dumb as he is, he’s only going to double down, which will make things worse.

I sincerely hope he’s enjoying the new experience of people from all over the country telling him to go fuck himself. He’d better get used to it.

Maybe this is the little Trump mess that finally changes a lot of minds about being quiet about Trump. Maybe this makes people more aware about his real messes and they start to realize he is in way over his head and he doesn’t have the personality and mental makeup needed to be in the White House.

And then that doubt builds and the Mueller Reporting begins.

America: “You can fuck with our elections, you can fuck with our health insurance, you can get us to the brink of another war, maybe nukes…but you’ve gone too far when you mess with MY NFL!

It is often the small things that bring down the big thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:18:29am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:18:36am

re: #163 HappyWarrior

They’ll talk about how they’re boycotting but then we’ll see their whining on NFL and ESPN articles. And we’ll hear from Trump about how the game is just awful awful.

Well, I’m not much of a sportsball fan, but millions are. NFL games tend to be sold out even late in the season when a team is doing horribly.

I suspect if any significant boycott of teams by conservatives developed, liberal fans would just say “good, more tickets for us.”

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:19:22am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:19:28am

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹

Well, I’m not much of a sportsball fan, but millions are. NFL games tend to be sold out even late in the season when a team is doing horribly.

I suspect if any significant boycott of teams by conservatives developed, liberal fans would just say “good, more tickets for us.”

Heh that’s exactly what I saw one of my friends say to someone who claimed they were turning in their season tickets. “Oh you’re turning in your season tickets, can I have them?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:22:58am
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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:23:16am

re: #141 JordanRules

Might be streaming only.

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Requires FLASH be loaded. Uggh. Come on NFL.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:23:38am

My sister said that some local schools cancelled certain sports programs designed to teach boys football because the parents were no longer allowing their children to participate. Unless they figure out how to prevent brain damage, the sport may ultimately die out for other reasons. and not because they refuse to stand for the national anthem.

Personally, I am all in favor of eliminating any recreational activity that, by its very nature, is designed to cause brain damage. Even with the argument that adults should be free to engage in such activity, the possibility that CTE could lead to violent behavior and poor impulse control— such as with OJ Simpson — should be sufficient to discourage this sport.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:24:14am

I don’t know much about Tim Tebow or his ability to play football, but the public prayer bit seemed to me to violate the admonition in the New Testament about public prayer, allegedly from Jesus himself.

That would be the counter to said conservative up there about the difference.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:24:51am

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah you’re mad at the kneeling but not what they’re protesting. But I get it you’re a FNC hack who panders to angry tiny dick bitter asshole snowflake wingnuts who think everyone is too sensitive but can’t handle kneeling for the national anthem without flying into a rage.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:25:54am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:26:18am

I mean if people want to protest the NFL over this. Fine. That’s your right. Just as it’s the right of the players to kneel during the anthem. But wingnuts want it both ways. They want to mandate standing for the anthem and still enjoy their football.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:26:31am

re: #173 HappyWarrior

Yeah you’re mad at the kneeling but not what they’re protesting. But I get it you’re a FNC hack who panders to angry tiny dick bitter asshole snowflake wingnuts who think everyone is too sensitive but can’t handle kneeling for the national anthem without flying into a rage.

Just tell them they’re emulating Tim Tebow.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:26:49am

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:27:01am

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

flailing…

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That’s the Tweeting I heard about. Thanks Sleuth. I wasn’t hearing things.

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No Depression  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:28:40am

re: #172 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t know much about Tim Tebow or his ability to play football, but the public prayer bit seemed to me to violate the admonition in the New Testament about public prayer, allegedly from Jesus himself.

That would be the counter to said conservative up there about the difference.

Tim Tebow was mediocre at best. And that had a lot to do with why people mocked him: even though he really wasn’t that great, the sports media covered him obsessively because of his public persona rather than his athletic prowess, and a lot of NFL fans resented that with Tebow receiving the brunt of the disdain. It was probably a bit unfair to Tebow, but that’s how it goes sometimes.

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:29:04am

re: #149 Anymouse 🌹

And, there goes the President violating the I Amendment again.

I’d pay good money to see the NFL Players Union and the ACLU sue over this.

And his yapping about Jemele Hill at ESPN can be added to the suit. Clear violation of the 1st. It won’t be his last either.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:29:56am

re: #179 No Depression

Tim Tebow was mediocre at best. And that had a lot to do with why people mocked him: even though he really wasn’t that great, the sports media covered him obsessively because of his public persona rather than his athletic prowess, and a lot of NFL fans resented that with Tebow receiving the brunt of the disdain. It was probably a bit unfair to Tebow, but that’s how it goes sometimes.

Like so many, he was a star in college and high school but didn’t translate to the NFL. I have nothing against Tebow himself but man I hated Tebow mania and this whole idea you had to like him because he was a devout Christian.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:30:32am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:31:35am

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:32:09am

You didn’t see any push back from the American right at all when Pat Robertson flat out said we deserved 9-11.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:34:20am

“If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein.”—Supreme Court Justice Robert H. Jackson, on the Courts finding compelling patriotic symbolism such as reciting the Pledge of Allegiance or standing for the National Anthem was unconstitutional.

To underscore that, they delivered the decision on Flag Day (June 14), 1943.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:35:01am
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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:36:05am

re: #162 Anymouse 🌹

If conservatives who make a religion out of the US flag want to boycott the NFL, they absolutely have the right to do so. While they’re at it, they can boycott other sports to which this is also spreading.

I suppose if they really wanted to “stick it to the libs,” they could start watching curling competitions on Canadian television. (Nothing against curling or Canada, but I imagine a conservative sputtering and choking on that idea.)

Like most conservative boycotts, it wouldn’t last more than a week, but the whigning would last for a long long time.

Oh, I wasn’t saying they don’t have a right to boycott.

I should have mentioned that many of the team owners probably supported Trump, so in a way Trump is messing with their income by asking people to boycott. That is not going to go over well.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:36:27am

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹

“If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein.”—Supreme Court Justice Robert H. Jackson, on the Courts finding compelling patriotic symbolism such as reciting the Pledge of Allegiance or standing for the National Anthem was unconstitutional.

To underscore that, they delivered the decision on Flag Day (June 14), 1943.

Yep.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:40:09am
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No Depression  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:43:18am

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:43:29am

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:45:12am

Couple of things…

The locking of arms and standing in unity; okay. I get it. It is showing a unified response to the comments of Donald Trump. But I think it is a weak response. When Kap started with the protest a year ago, there was a purpose. Of so much of the conversations by pundits and statements by NFL owners, how many of them have gotten to the root of this issue? How many are referencing racism and police brutality? Everyone at that Klan, er Trump rally heard the dog whistle. This must be stood up to with force. How many times have we seen Charles comment on how ignoring these people only emboldens them. Locking arms isn’t enough. I would love to see a group of players participate in a “die-in” during the anthem today. How ‘splodey would heads get on that.

Tebow was a below marginal QB talent, with great talent around him. Had a great coaching staff that used what he could do. People didn’t mock Tebow for taking praying, they were mocking the people all in on Tebow. It “proved” to some of these people that God was helping out Tebow(and there were some miracles for his team). The supporters were being mocked for their reactions to Tebow.

Kapernick is a mid-level NFL QB. #13-20. As good or better than half of the starters in the league now. He was the backup in San Fran a few years ago. Starter Alex Smith got hurt, Kap comes in and leads team to the Super Bowl. Had a chance to win the game. Fourth down pass was just incomplete that would have won the game.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:45:59am

re: #188 HappyWarrior

Yep.

Reading up further on that, it turns out the reasoning given for states to compel patriotic speech or gestures was founded in “Gee, Hitler is making Jehovah’s Witnesses do this or be arrested” so US states started doing it as well.

In the West Virginia case that overturned such laws, a JW’s children were suspended from school in accordance with state law. The law would also hold if you didn’t send your children to school you were guilty of fostering truancy.

On consulting a lawyer, that lawyer recommended they send their children to school every day, and force the school to expel them every day (making it the state’s problem, not the parents).

The parents sued, the state fought it all the way to the Supreme Court. On the side of the parents were the PTA, the ACLU, the American Federation of Women’s Clubs. On the side of the state was the American Legion.

The state’s and American Legion’s argument rested on a previous case that upheld such laws in a lower court. The lawyer for the parents and the support from the groups behind them was the decision was a bad one and needed to be overturned. (Thanks, Wikipedia)

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:46:36am

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹

Well, I’m not much of a sportsball fan, but millions are. NFL games tend to be sold out even late in the season when a team is doing horribly.

I suspect if any significant boycott of teams by conservatives developed, liberal fans would just say “good, more tickets for us.”

I’m a lowly Cleveland Browns fan. Many of us lowly Browns fans follow them with the hopes of many early explorers…that there is indeed land out there…somewhere.

So yes, this will be about money and you are right, maybe it becomes a liberal cause to make sure the stadiums are full and everyone is together as a statement.

And you get to see a game from a seat you paid $35 bucks for but some Republican season ticket holder paid $300. : )

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:48:30am

re: #113 lawhawk

Doubly so when the flag is the flag of traitorous insurrectionists from the Confederacy our proud and peaceful White Heritage!!!!

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:50:10am
Charles Clymer🏳️‍🌈

@cmclymer

My inbox today. It seems I’ve triggered many Trump snowflakes by being one of the countless veterans who #TakeAKnee. Too fucking bad. 🙃

So, it’s not about veterans then, if they would trash a veteran over an opinion the same way Trump and his New York campaign manager trashed Gold Star Families?

It’s about “comply with what we want.”

By the way, today is Gold Star Mothers and Families Day. If you’re interested, Donald Trump did release a proclamation declaring the day (I am actually surprised). Unsurprisingly, he made it about those who fell in battle and had little to say about Gold Star Families.

whitehouse.gov

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:50:25am

They’re disrespecting our troops! Say the people who admire the flag of the “nation” responsible for thousands of American deaths.

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JordanRules  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:50:31am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:51:00am

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

If NFL fans refuse to go to games until players stop disrespecting our Flag & Country, you will see change take place fast. Fire or suspend!

The NFL is quite aware that it will lose as many or more to a boycott if it institutes a mandatory “stand for the SSB or else!” rule.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:51:41am

re: #198 JordanRules

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Cheers Grandpa. I’m sure mine were he still here would agree.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:52:42am

re: #194 ObserverArt

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:52:45am

re: #183 HappyWarrior

Yes, let’s hear what Franklin Graham. A bigoted hack has to say. //

Sunday morning and the money handlers in the Temple are out pimpin’ the pulpit.

Oh, where is Jesus?

(Sorry…but…)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:53:53am

re: #202 ObserverArt

Sunday morning and the money handlers in the Temple are out pimpin’ the pulpit.

Oh, where is Jesus?

(Sorry…but…)

Jesus ain’t here man.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:56:17am

re: #203 HappyWarrior

Jesus ain’t here man.

They’re gathering across the street from my house at the church. I presume they know a lot more about Jesus than the pulpit pimps on TV or the butthurt conservatives on Twitter.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:56:36am
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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:56:52am

re: #202 ObserverArt

Found him!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 7:57:20am

re: #205 The Vicious Babushka

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:01:35am

re: #204 Anymouse 🌹

They’re gathering across the street from my house at the church. I presume they know a lot more about Jesus than the pulpit pimps on TV or the butthurt conservatives on Twitter.

I’m sure they do too. Graham’s nothing but a conman who is only where he is because of Daddy.

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No Depression  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:02:31am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The NFL is quite aware that it will lose as many or more to a boycott if it institutes a mandatory “stand for the SSB or else!” rule.

The ironic thing is that by butting his head into this, Trump has pretty much guaranteed that the NFL will never discipline players for kneeling for the national anthem. That kind of rule wouldn’t have gone well before Trump got involved, but now? If the NFL and its owners kowtowed to Trump, it would blow up the league and make the 2020 CBA negotiations between the NFL and the NFLPA even more acrimonious.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:02:45am
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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:02:55am

re: #201 FormerDirtDart

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Thanks for putting that up.

I am not sure, but I think Haslam is Republican since his brother is Republican Governor of Tennessee.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:04:05am

re: #210 Anymouse 🌹

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Respect for our military? Yeah your boss who only likes those who aren’t captured respects them so much. Fuck off Steve.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:04:18am

re: #201 FormerDirtDart

Trump’s gonna be having an absolute meltdown.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:04:24am

re: #211 ObserverArt

Thanks for putting that up.

I am not sure, but I think Haslam is Republican since his brother is Republican Governor of Tennessee.

A lot of these owners are.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:05:11am

re: #213 Dr Lizardo

Trump’s gonna be having an absolute meltdown.

Good, I hope he takes it out on Ivanka and Jared and they go against him.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:05:14am

re: #139 ObserverArt

Is this game even on TV? I looked at ESPN and they had nothing mentioned on their game schedules for today.

Its on yahoo.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:06:40am

re: #118 JordanRules

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:07:23am

re: #205 The Vicious Babushka

deray mckesson ✔ @deray
To Trump, the NFL Players are mere property and he is calling out to their “owners” to discipline them for speaking. This sounds familiar.
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Very Trumpian. After all, Trump forces those working for him to sign NDA that apparently have no time limit. He does not believe in free speech or any speech that contradicts him. In effect, like many with great wealth, he believes in silencing all opposition. It is no wonder that he is such a fan of despots and is hoping to eventually achieve their status.

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:07:48am

Anyone watching Meet the Chuck?

Rich Lowery sure was getting all upset about flag disrespect.

And then he tucked tail and talked about Trump ‘tone deafness” regarding Charlottesville.

Lowery really pisses me off. Freakin’ fascist knob gobbler.

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JordanRules  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:08:01am

Plenty of folks are already boycotting the NFL over Kaep and CTE.
Jay Z reportedly turned down the offer to perform at the Super Bowl halftime show.
Most folks I know having changing opinions and viewing habits. Most of that has happened in the last 5 years.

See some of the responses here:

The NFL has been especially problematic as sports leagues go, for a while now. For many POC, there’s generally been much more respect for the NBA’s positions in areas where the shield has been super ugly.

The sport and league are far from dead but this isn’t the shiny object of desire, the great American sports business of decades past that liberals and conservatives are going to do battle for.
It is kinda amusing that 45 is kicking them while they are already down. Typical bully bullshit.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:08:24am

re: #210 Anymouse 🌹

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Trump disrespected a Gold Star family when he went after the Khans so Mnuchin can shut the hell up about “respect for the military”. Please miss me with that.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:09:04am

re: #219 ObserverArt

Anyone watching Meet the Chuck?

Rich Lowery sure was getting all upset about flag disrespect.

And then he tucked tail and talked about Trump ‘tone deafness” regarding Charlottesville.

Lowery really pisses me off. Freakin’ fascist knob gobbler.

What does Lowry know about respect anyhow?

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:10:07am

Hoo boy, looking over the GoldStarFamilies hashtag on Twitter, there are a bunch of butthurt conservatives whigning about the NFL, claiming they are dishonouring Gold Star Families.

It ain’t about us, wingnuts.

I despise faux patriotism in my name, and I reject it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:10:53am

re: #223 Anymouse 🌹

Hoo boy, looking over the GoldStarFamilies hashtag on Twitter, there are a bunch of butthurt conservatives whigning about the NFL, claiming they are dishonouring Gold Star Families.

It ain’t about us, wingnuts.

I despise faux patriotism in my name, and I reject it.

Indeed. It’s disgusting how they hide behind the troops like this.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:11:20am

re: #219 ObserverArt

I can not watch any of them. Rarely is it anything but aggravating, or worse, enervating. Just nothing to be learned apart from how low political discussion has gone in broadcast media.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:11:56am

Oh great. Fish Lips is on This Week giving the administration’s position on the NFL.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:13:22am

Wow

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:14:23am

re: #227 FormerDirtDart

Wow

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And they have a former Army Ranger on the team too.

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JordanRules  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:14:44am

re: #217 Patricia Kayden

I have not. My dad and stepmom went in June and said it was an amazing experience.
I don’t know when I’ll be able to make the trip, but I am determined. I will try to go on multiple days because I’ve heard you can’t really do it in one.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:15:23am

Sons and Daughters in Touch (the Vietnam War Gold Star Family organisation) answers Mr. Trump:

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JordanRules  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:16:36am

re: #227 FormerDirtDart

My team. I’ll be damned.
Love the Rooney’s and Coach Tomlin!

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:17:35am

re: #220 JordanRules

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:17:43am

re: #227 FormerDirtDart

Wow

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:18:20am

re: #231 JordanRules

My team. I’ll be damned.
Love the Rooney’s and Coach Tomlin!

I didn’t know you were a Steelers fan too.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:19:27am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:19:32am

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yep, it is. Proud of Tomlin and the team. And again lest anyone call them unpatriotic, the team has a man who was literally an Army Ranger on the team.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:19:38am

Thread (five tweets)

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BigPapa  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:19:55am

re: #227 FormerDirtDart

Trump the Uniter is here folks! He’s united most sportsballers against him.

I haven’t been this interested in sports for some time.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:20:17am

An awful lot of Trumps base is all about ProBall sports. He is chipping away at his own support.

Starting to watch these numbers. Betting numbers.

Sourced at casino.org

Likelihood of Assassination

black and white gun showing odds of trump being assassinated

If you want to talk about Presidents not being able to fulfil their full term in office, then assassination is the darker departure route for the commander-in-chief.

Previous assassinated Presidents have included Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy. Do you fancy Trump being added to that list at 100/1?

Even Money On Trump Being Impeached

US Presidents resigning before their time in office is complete is something that has happened more than once before. Think Richard Nixon and Watergate, plus Bill Clinton and Monica “I did not have sexual relations with that woman” Lewinsky.

Bookmakers are offering Evens on Trump being impeached or resigning before his first term has finished.

Nuclear War

A more depressing set of odds are on Trump starting World War III. Fortunately, relations between the US and Russia appear to be better than ever with Trump and Putin buddying up on the global arena.

However, Trump’s attitude towards China is less amicable. Even former close aides of Trump have suggested his temper could be enough to launch a nuclear warhead. 250/1 on offer that Trump does bring the apocalypse.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:21:13am

End of said thread:

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:21:55am

re: #225 Unshaken Defiance

I can not watch any of them. Rarely is it anything but aggravating, or worse, enervating. Just nothing to be learned apart from how low political discussion has gone in broadcast media.

I have thick skin. And I always try to keep things in some kind of order of perspective. I know the roles people play and I look at much of it as bad acting. There is a certain level of cynical humor I try to pull out of it.

Humans and their behavior fascinate me. It is one reason why I am not a big sci-fi or fantasy fan and go for the black comedy and dystopian forms of ‘entertainment.’

I love Observing people and what they are capable of doing. As we often say too many times these days: “You can’t write that!”

Plus, I like some of the guests and I want to see how they take on the Rich Lowery types of the world and how others see Trump.

I try so hard to not let it really bother me so I can get the little bit of education and comedy out of it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:23:02am
Nuclear War

A more depressing set of odds are on Trump starting World War III. Fortunately, relations between the US and Russia appear to be better than ever with Trump and Putin buddying up on the global arena.

However, Trump’s attitude towards China is less amicable. Even former close aides of Trump have suggested his temper could be enough to launch a nuclear warhead. 250/1 on offer that Trump does bring the apocalypse.

Pretty safe bet for the house, since they would likely not have to pay off in a nuclear apocalypse.

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JordanRules  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:23:08am

re: #234 HappyWarrior

Yup, yup!! Grew up one because that was my Dad’s team; Phoenix didn’t have an NFL team when I was a wee one so we have lots of Steeler and Cowboy (ick) fans here.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:23:35am

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

Franklin can keep babbling. No one is listening.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:24:00am

wut???

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:24:03am

So much for that “Trump pivot” and “growing into the office” thing, eh?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:24:17am

re: #243 JordanRules

Yup, yup!! Grew up one because that was my Dad’s team; Phoenix didn’t have an NFL team when I was a wee one so we have lots of Steeler and Cowboy (ick) fans here.

Yep makes sense. My dad’s mom grew up near what would become Three Rivers Stadium and my mom’s dad always told me how the Rooneys did their players right and I just loved the smashmouth style of play.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:24:40am

re: #246 Ace Rothstein

So much for that “Trump pivot” and “growing into the office” thing, eh?

I didn’t think it was possible but he’s worse than I thought he would be.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:25:02am

It’s a massacre in London.
Jags up 30-0 over Ravens in the 3rd qtr.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:25:05am

You would think that Trump would know better than to go to war against the NFL given how bad he lost last time.

Guess not.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:25:14am

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

wut???

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Can’t wait to see Jimmy Kimmel’s response ot this.

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:25:17am

re: #231 JordanRules

My team. I’ll be damned.
Love the Rooney’s and Coach Tomlin!

As a Browns fan, I despise but respect Pittsburgh.

But big props to the owners, coach and team.

Trump: “Damn Black coach, he put them up to us!!!”

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:26:01am

I’m so not a fan of the NFL. If you recall my past comments, well pretty harsh at times. They are what they are. Among those things is people equal under our law. Equal on or off the field. That’s our morals. Our cultural ethic so to speak with a full admission it’s aspirational. Far from accomplished.

Between that guy that became President after Obama and the NFL I’ll take the NFL. These guys that only like protests that are convenient and out of sight really deliberately miss the whole 1st A concept.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:26:25am
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Ace Rothstein  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:27:07am

re: #248 HappyWarrior

I didn’t think it was possible but he’s worse than I thought he would be.

It’s going exactly as I predicted it would. Badly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:27:10am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:27:48am

re: #255 Ace Rothstein

It’s going exactly as I predicted it would. Badly.

I mean I knew it would be bad but damn.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:28:22am

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

wut???

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Yet another last minute, undebated, unscored bill won’t satisfy McCain’s demand for regular order. Bit I will call Rand Paul again, whatever the new bill says.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:29:13am

It seems that the NFL issue has evolved from a protest of violent police actions against black males to now a full-on protest of Trump. Am I reading it correctly?

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:29:19am

Stonekettle on a roll against fools today:

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:29:23am

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

wut???

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This is not how it works. This is not how any of this works!!!

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:30:02am

re: #260 Anymouse 🌹

That is good to hear. :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:30:36am
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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:30:39am

re: #260 Anymouse 🌹

Stonekettle on a roll against fools today:

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You didn’t sign up for a racist, fascist scumbag? Man, talk about a lack of personal responsibility.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:30:47am

re: #241 ObserverArt

You are a better man than I there. Tell us what you learn, you I’m interested in hearing from. I wish more of our media voices would stop normalizing or pretending any of this Trump behavior is normal. They once called Reagan the Teflon President.

What do we call this?

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JordanRules  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:30:49am

re: #258 Big Beautiful Door

I think I finally perfected my spiel for this round of the HC battle with all my calls the last 2 weeks.
I knew this coming week would be the big one so me and my dialing finger are ready!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:30:51am

re: #260 Anymouse 🌹

Stonekettle on a roll against fools today:

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Come on Rex. You heard him.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:31:20am

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Go for it Douchebag. I’m sure it will go over just great.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:31:56am

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It figures that the whitetest professional sports in America whose fans live for the players bashing each other in the face would remain loyal to Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:32:09am

re: #264 Timothy Watson

You didn’t sign up for a racist, fascist scumbag? Man, talk about a lack of personal responsibility.

Seriously, how tone deaf can you be? I mean I’m glad Rex is bothered by this but at the same time, come the hell on.

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dangerman  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:32:33am

A couple of days ago I posted What is Normal and Why Get Back to It

It’s thoughts on how we try to recover after a natural or other disaster.

I added a few final thoughts.

If you havent seen it, maybe take a look.

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:34:08am

re: #265 Unshaken Defiance

You are a better man than I there. Tell us what you learn, you I’m interested in hearing from. I wish more of our media voices would stop normalizing or pretending any of this Trump behavior is normal. They once called Reagan the Teflon President.

What do we call this?

Willful ignorance to go for the money.

That remains my take. Everyone is being ignorant for their own reasons. It is the New American Way.

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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:34:40am

re: #270 HappyWarrior

Seriously, how tone deaf can you be? I mean I’m glad Rex is bothered by this but at the same time, come the hell on.

Considering how he coached the Jets, I never took him for being all that smart.

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JordanRules  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:35:07am

re: #270 HappyWarrior

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:35:13am

re: #273 alloutofcrazyhere

Considering how he coached the Jets, I never took him for being all that smart.

Ha good point. Coach Tomlin of the Steelers meanwhile is a William and Mary alumnus.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:35:26am

re: #242 Anymouse 🌹

Pretty safe bet for the house, since they would likely not have to pay off in a nuclear apocalypse.

you beat me to that observation

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:35:32am

re: #274 JordanRules

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Yep, yep!

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JordanRules  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:36:56am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:42:48am

re: #278 JordanRules

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The NFL has a lot of problems. It’s amazing that this is what outrages the wingnuts.

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Belafon  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:42:48am

re: #274 JordanRules

I believe the term for that is conservatives.

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JordanRules  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:44:38am

re: #279 HappyWarrior

Economic anxiety I reckon.

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Belafon  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:44:49am

re: #279 HappyWarrior

The NFL has a lot of problems. It’s amazing that this is what outrages the wingnuts.

1. The slaves are getting restless.
2. They’re messing with my entertainment.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:44:59am

In summary: Small government conservatives are pissing themselves in outrage about US citizens conducting a peaceful protest.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:45:07am

re: #59 teleskiguy

Hidden because, well, you’ll see. It’s barely safe for work.

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This should be on billboards

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:45:34am

I got $100 that says the object of Trump’s wrath will be Jaguars owner Shahid Khan. Anybody wanna take a guess why?

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Decatur Deb  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:45:34am

re: #63 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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Dr. Matt  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:45:39am
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JordanRules  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:47:04am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:47:47am

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

flailing…

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Dr. Matt  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:48:26am

re: #281 JordanRules

Economic anxiety I reckon.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:49:23am

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

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JordanRules  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:49:52am

Oh.

Still don’t trust any of you RWNJs tho…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:49:56am

re: #288 JordanRules

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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:50:56am

re: #291 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I would say everyone boycott his “documentaries,” but nobody watches them anyway.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:51:01am

re: #30 nines09

forty bucks… I’m thinking about it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:51:02am

re: #291 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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They need to go away and Dinesh should just go back to fucking not his wife rather than acting like he has a clue about anything.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:51:14am

re: #292 JordanRules

I don’t believe anything until the clock on Saturday reads 12:00:01.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:52:00am

re: #296 HappyWarrior

They need to go away and Dinesh should just go back to fucking not his wife rather than acting like he has a clue about anything.

Laura and Ann are still single. And they used to fuck him. (Sorry for the sick visual on a Sunday morning.)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:52:28am

re: #274 JordanRules

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:52:29am

re: #298 Ace Rothstein

Laura and Ann are still single. And they used to fuck him. (Sorry for the sick visual on a Sunday morning.)

Agh!

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Decatur Deb  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:53:52am

“I was elected to represent Steeler fans, not St. Germain fans.”

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mmmirele  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:54:16am

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹

“If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein.”—Supreme Court Justice Robert H. Jackson, on the Courts finding compelling patriotic symbolism such as reciting the Pledge of Allegiance or standing for the National Anthem was unconstitutional.

To underscore that, they delivered the decision on Flag Day (June 14), 1943.

If I wasn’t a diabetic, that’s the one statement I’d get tattooed to my body. In a nice, readable font.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:54:38am

re: #285 Ace Rothstein

I got $100 that says the object of Trump’s wrath will be Jaguars owner Shahid Khan. Anybody wanna take a guess why?

Bigotry, and betraying Trump. Trump will hate him with the fire of 1000 suns now.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:54:42am

re: #301 Decatur Deb

“I was elected to represent Steeler fans, not St. Germain fans.”

Yeah let’s see him act like he cares about the Burgh now.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:55:22am

re: #303 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Bigotry, and betraying Trump. Trump will hate him with the fire of 1000 suns now.

Yep sounds right. And his team is kicking ass today too. Much more than Trump has in the oval office.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:55:49am

re: #249 FormerDirtDart

It’s a massacre in London.
Jags up 30-0 over Ravens in the 3rd qtr.

4th qtr has begun
44-0

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William Lewis  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:55:58am

re: #291 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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I see Dinesh D’felon is whining again.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:56:21am

re: #306 FormerDirtDart

4th qtr has begun
44-0

This Steelers fan thanks the Jags.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:56:30am

re: #307 William Lewis

I see Dinesh D’felon is whining again.

It’s a day ending in day.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:56:46am

re: #303 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Bigotry, and betraying Trump. Trump will hate him with the fire of 1000 suns now.

Owning team while Muslim.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:57:40am

re: #294 alloutofcrazyhere

I would say everyone boycott his “documentaries,” but nobody watches them anyway.

I’ll stick with Ken Burns.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:58:09am

re: #306 FormerDirtDart

4th qtr has begun
44-0

Did the Ravens even get off the plane?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 8:58:14am

re: #311 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I’ll stick with Ken Burns.

Ken Burns is an actual documentarian. Dinesh just makes the same crap. Burns has range.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:00:14am

re: #313 HappyWarrior

Ken Burns is an actual documentarian. Dinesh just makes the same crap. Burns has range.

Everyone should be watching The Vietnam War. Especially with the Cheeto God banging war drums for Korea and Iran.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:00:15am

re: #313 HappyWarrior

Ken Burns is an actual documentarian. Dinesh just makes the same crap. Burns has range.

Like Ann Coulter writing the same book over and over and just making each one-word title more extreme.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:00:51am

re: #314 Big Beautiful Door

Everyone should be watching The Vietnam War. Especially with the Cheeto God banging war drums for Korea and Iran.

Can it be watched on demand?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:01:08am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:01:14am

re: #314 Big Beautiful Door

Everyone should be watching The Vietnam War. Especially with the Cheeto God banging war drums for Korea and Iran.

Yep, I’ve been watching. It’s fascinating and relevant as you get at.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:01:17am

re: #293 HappyWarrior

Why won’t that Martin Luther King be a good boy and be quiet? //

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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:01:23am

re: #313 HappyWarrior

Ken Burns is an actual documentarian. Dinesh just makes the same crap up. Burns has range.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:01:42am

re: #317 The Vicious Babushka

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Kander by the way is a vet himself. But I’m sure Trump and his VD know more about it than Jason.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:01:50am

re: #292 JordanRules

Oh.

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Still don’t trust any of you RWNJs tho…

Since its not going to pass anyway, Cruz can declare victory for killing “Obamacare lite.” He’s a vulture.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:02:47am

re: #315 Blind Frog Belly White

Like Ann Coulter writing the same book over and over and just making each one-word title more extreme.

Yes.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:03:51am

re: #316 Ace Rothstein

Can it be watched on demand?

If I recall, all the episodes are online on PBS’s website. Not sure about On Demand. Really good stuff. I’m glad Burns has talked to people on the Vietnamese side too, civilians, ARVN vets, Vietcong vets, and NVA vets. They all have their own unique perspectives as do our vets who have been talked to.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:04:40am

One thing I didn’t know but Native Americans made up the highest per capita group that served in the war. They focused on one guy who served in WWII and Korea and ended up serving with his sons in Nam.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:06:07am
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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:06:31am

re: #324 HappyWarrior

If I recall, all the episodes are online on PBS’s website. Not sure about On Demand. Really good stuff. I’m glad Burns has talked to people on the Vietnamese side too, civilians, ARVN vets, Vietcong vets, and NVA vets. They all have their own unique perspectives as do our vets who have been talked to.

PBS also has a streaming service which is free to download and watch the episodes on demand.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:06:57am

re: #316 Ace Rothstein

Yes. Here is the link to my local PBS station WHYY. I am pretty sure it will take you to the main PBS website.
whyy.org

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:07:57am

re: #327 The Vicious Babushka

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You want cowardice Newt? Look no further than Trump who calls men sons of bitches when in his safe space at an Alabama rally filled with bigoted assholes who love him. Or you yourself who cheated on your sick wife and then said you did it because of your love of your country. But thanks Fox, I really wanted to hear more from Newt Gingrich who is only the second most repulsive GOP Speaker in the past 20 years.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:08:13am

re: #290 Dr. Matt

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Not just the past 24 hours. Forever.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:09:35am

re: #282 Belafon

1. The slaves are getting restless.
2. They’re messing with my entertainment.

There is a bit more to it than that, and the people manipulating this discussion are aware that Football is a repository of all Great American Virtues like fair play, the striving for excellence and success, etc., and that whose who mess with their preconceived notions of what Football and football players should look and sound like are risking the rage of the Right-eous.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:10:24am

re: #327 The Vicious Babushka

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:10:57am

re: #266 JordanRules

I think I finally perfected my spiel for this round of the HC battle with all my calls the last 2 weeks.
I knew this coming week would be the big one so me and my dialing finger are ready!

So — are you calling only your Senators, or anyone you think may be persuadable? Some of us live in Senatorial blue states and so our calls aren’t particularly crucial.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:10:57am

re: #333 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Newt is a stupid person’s idea of a smart one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:12:00am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:13:04am

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah seriously, I find that much more offensive than kneeling. That flag was the flag of a “nation” that killed more Americans than any other. Yep including Nazi Germany.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:13:08am

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

I rather see the Union Jack than the Stars and Bars.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:13:32am

You don’t get to lecture anyone on patriotism when you wave a Stars and Bars.

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retired cynic  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:13:38am

re: #330 HappyWarrior

You want cowardice Newt? Look no further than Trump who calls men sons of bitches when in his safe space at an Alabama rally filled with bigoted assholes who love him. Or you yourself who cheated on your sick wife and then said you did it because of your love of your country. But thanks Fox, I really wanted to hear more from Newt Gingrich who is only the second most repulsive GOP Speaker in the past 20 years.

You know, he may be first. Because he knows better.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:13:44am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:14:42am

re: #340 retired cynic

You know, he may be first. Because he knows better.

Had to include Hastert as number one. He knew better too.

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JordanRules  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:14:49am

re: #334 Hecuba’s daughter

My Senators for sure and Murkowski who, like McCain, was good with hearing from anybody about this.
We’ll see what the call recommendations look like next week.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:15:50am

re: #329 PhillyPretzel

Yes. Here is the link to my local PBS station WHYY. I am pretty sure it will take you to the main PBS website.
whyy.org

Nebraska Educational Television will take you to the site, with four streaming options (broadcast, explicit, Spanish, and Vietnamese)

netnebraska.org

I still haven’t decided if I want to watch it. Neither my mother nor sister are. Kind of hits too close to home.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:16:27am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:16:57am

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

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JordanRules  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:17:46am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:17:51am

re: #334 Hecuba’s daughter

So — are you calling only your Senators, or anyone you think may be persuadable? Some of us live in Senatorial blue states and so our calls aren’t particularly crucial.

Blue state callers are crucial. Reminding your senators they are standing up for the right thing and you appreciate that is important.

My calls were futile, but I gave the opposite (I am disappointed and I don’t appreciate you value money over your constituents).

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:18:01am

re: #312 Big Beautiful Door

Did the Ravens even get off the plane?

44-7
Looks like the flight has finally arrived

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:18:01am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:19:07am

re: #341 Backwoods_Sleuth

BERLIN (AP) - Exit polls suggest Merkel’s conservative bloc finishes first in #Germany election, with around 33 percent support.

which means still enough for Germany’s two centrist parties to muddle on with a Grand Coalition. Things will get hairy when we see a situation like that in Spain or the Netherlands, where the two centrists parties could come up with a majority together and have to turn to extreme right or left parties to cut deals.

Right now, that is neither necessary nor likely, as no other party would even consider governing in a coalition with the extreme right AfD or the extreme left Linke Partei

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:19:40am

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So what.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:20:07am

How do they make up this bogus bullshit?

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:22:07am

re: #353 The Vicious Babushka

They want a fascist state, and they think they’ll be the state media organ.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:22:13am

re: #353 The Vicious Babushka

How do they make up this bogus bullshit?

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Lol okay Ms. I defended the internment of the Japanese due to my own racism.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:22:41am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:22:47am

re: #354 Anymouse 🌹

They want a fascist state, and they think they’ll be the state media organ.

They should know that Trump already gave that to Russia Today.

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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:22:53am

re: #353 The Vicious Babushka

It’s Malkin. Just another version of Coulter.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:23:45am

re: #358 alloutofcrazyhere

It’s Malkin. Just another version of Coulter.

Yep same person more o less.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:23:49am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:24:12am

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is remarkable. In unprecedented joint letter, the entire American health care system - 1/6 of the economy - rejects Graham-Cassidy.

Who ya gonna trust: a bunch of liberal Jewish doctors or The President?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:24:21am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:24:42am

re: #358 alloutofcrazyhere

It’s Malkin. Just another version of Coulter.

HURR HURR BUT SHE’S ASIAN!!!! YOUR JUST A RACIST HURR HURR!!!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:24:46am

re: #362 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:25:22am

re: #361 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Who ya gonna trust: a bunch of liberal Jewish doctors or The President?

Damn elitist doctors thinking they know more about health care than Trump.

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:25:25am

re: #292 JordanRules

Oh.

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Still don’t trust any of you RWNJs tho…

One week of fighting left. I’m ready. Again.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:26:36am

re: #353 The Vicious Babushka

How do they make up this bogus bullshit?

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Conservative mad lips.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:26:49am
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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:26:55am

re: #363 The Vicious Babushka

I think she was actually pro Japanese internment camp during WWII. Although, I am not sure what her nationality/background is specifically.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:27:34am

re: #365 HappyWarrior

Damn elitist doctors thinking they know more about health care than Trump.

I don’t know about you, but I want a regular Joe doing my brain surgery!

///

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:27:41am

re: #369 alloutofcrazyhere

I think she was actually pro Japanese internment camp during WWII. Although, I am not sure what her nationality/background is specifically.

Malkin is Filipino.

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BeachDem  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:28:30am

re: #319 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That photo keeps appearing…

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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:28:34am

re: #369 alloutofcrazyhere

I think she was actually pro Japanese internment camp during WWII. Although, I am not sure what her nationality/background is specifically.

Her parents were both Filipino.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:28:36am

Now she’s just totally making shit up.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:28:37am

OK, got 30 minutes to walk the dogs before the next games start
#SportsballAllDay

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:28:40am

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

wut???

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Ted Fucking Cruz just came out against Graham/Cassidy.

Everything a flail.

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:30:11am

re: #306 FormerDirtDart

4th qtr has begun
44-0

I was washing and spinning some lettuce and spinach in my kitchen and heard this score and I thought they were pulling my leg. Then they repeated it. What happened to the vaunted Ravens defense…jet lag?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:30:26am

re: #374 The Vicious Babushka

Now she’s just totally making shit up.

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I’m not insulted Snowflake. You don’t speak for most Americans. Stop acting like you do.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:31:00am

re: #368 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mnuchin is now invoking “this is about first responders?” The ones that the GOP couldn’t be bothered to support after 9/11?

“This is about the military?” The VA that the GOP wants to privatise?

While this started as a protest about police violence against minorities, it has morphed now into a protest for free speech in general.

Mnuchin is arguing to tear the heart out of the I Amendment. It’s fascists all the way down.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:31:28am

Oh and on businesses insulting customers, these people literally support discrimination by businesses.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:32:08am

Why the fuck is the Treasury Sec talking about this anyhow?

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JordanRules  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:32:18am

re: #366 ObserverArt

One week of fighting left. I’m ready. Again.

Me too!!
Let’s finish this zombie!

…for this round. Then 2018 elections!!!
Si se puede!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:32:33am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:32:59am
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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:33:33am

re: #313 HappyWarrior

Ken Burns is an actual documentarian. Dinesh just makes the same crap. Burns has range.

Burns depicts the facts artfully.

D’ Louza makes ‘em up badly.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:33:46am

re: #381 HappyWarrior

Why the fuck is the Treasury Sec talking about this anyhow?

They need a united front showing they are all against free speech.

If Mnuchin doesn’t bow down to Trump’s assault on rights, Trump will fire him and Mnuchin’s grift will end.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:36:02am

re: #384 The Vicious Babushka

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I’m really starting to think this was a coordinated fascist power grab, which failed spectacularly in the usual Trump fashion…

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:36:42am

re: #334 Hecuba’s daughter

So — are you calling only your Senators, or anyone you think may be persuadable? Some of us live in Senatorial blue states and so our calls aren’t particularly crucial.

Robby Portman and I are buds! /

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:37:16am

re: #387 Timothy Watson

I’m really starting to think this was a coordinated fascist power grab, which failed spectacularly in the usual Trump fashion…

It hasn’t failed yet. They are still in power.

It took Hitler some time to consolidate his power after he was appointed Chancellor.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:38:13am

re: #376 Stanley Sea

Ted Fucking Cruz just came out against Graham/Cassidy.

Everything a flail.

I just read Al Franken’s chapter on Ted Cruz. I want to write to Senator Franken, and quote from the movie “Patton”:

You magnificent bastard! I READ YOUR BOOK!!!

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Dragonomics  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:38:26am

Worship of military is an American sickness and right wingers use our men and women in uniform to play on people’s emotions in an attempt to shame us into obedience. Soldiers didn’t die for our right to protest. We, the people, died for that right at Calumet, at Ludlow, in stockyards, on college campuses. Social progressives died for our rights.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:39:00am

Note, Ted Cruz said he was against the bill “for now.” He didn’t say he was against it.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:40:43am

re: #316 Ace Rothstein

Can it be watched on demand?

Yes, on pbs.org

All the episodes are there.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:40:58am

Reading the Conservatives comments on Twitter, they are “triggered” by black football players exercising their 1st amendment rights. What a bunch of “snowflakes!” They’re theatening a boycott of the NFL because they want their “safe spaces” away ftom “uppity blacks.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:40:59am
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Ace Rothstein  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:42:10am

re: #393 Stanley Sea

Yes, on pbs.org

All the episodes are there.

Holy shit, that’s awesome. Thank you!

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Nyet  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:42:14am

re: #351 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

which means still enough for Germany’s two centrist parties to muddle on with a Grand Coalition.

Actually not.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:42:52am

re: #395 Anymouse 🌹

And you, fish lips, can fly on your OWN DIME.

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:43:52am

re: #353 The Vicious Babushka

How do they make up this bogus bullshit?

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I am going to coin a new phrase for Fox News.

Pork Barrel Journalism.

They get all the ‘pork’ into their news. Even if they rush to get it out before having the script perfected like Ms. Malkin. Something for everyone in each and every fake story.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:43:53am

re: #395 Anymouse 🌹

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Their employers are fine with it Stevie so shut up and take your own advice.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:44:50am

re: #386 Anymouse 🌹

They need a united front showing they are all against free speech.

If Mnuchin doesn’t bow down to Trump’s assault on rights, Trump will fire him and Mnuchin’s grift will end.

Yeah but why him I guess.

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:45:31am

re: #358 alloutofcrazyhere

It’s Malkin. Just another version of Coulter.

Except if you could get Ann to admit it, she probably wants Malkin out of the country too.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:45:44am

re: #384 The Vicious Babushka

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You didn’t seem to be thanking God you lived in the US when you showed your preference for Putin over Obama, Huckleberry.

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Nyet  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:46:18am

Report.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:46:41am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:47:17am

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:47:39am

re: #405 Anymouse 🌹

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They’re not disrespecting it. My God. Stop with this bullshit lie.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:48:01am

Forget it Jack, it’s Louie

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plansbandc  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:48:03am

re: #265 Unshaken Defiance

racist fascist orange bag of human garbage unpresidentedcy

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:48:16am

re: #376 Stanley Sea

Ted Fucking Cruz just came out against Graham/Cassidy.

Everything a flail.

There must have been enough cover so he could take such a fearless stand!

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:49:21am

re: #396 Ace Rothstein

Holy shit, that’s awesome. Thank you!

Oh and by the way Lynn Novick needs to get credit along with Ken Burns.

I’m 2 episodes behind. The last one I watched really got to me, I needed a break from the reality of that shitshow.

Will catch up today.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:49:33am

re: #353 The Vicious Babushka

How do they make up this bogus bullshit?

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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:50:10am

re: #410 ObserverArt

One of the only good things that came out of that last election was hearing from Cruz’s former college roommate.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:50:35am

I do not know about anyone else but there are a lot of low flying jets over Philly.

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Nyet  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:50:48am

re: #404 Nyet

Look at the teeth on that Aryan Übermensch.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:52:19am

re: #368 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:52:36am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:53:36am
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JordanRules  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:53:54am

Orly?

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:54:36am

re: #414 PhillyPretzel

Can you see what kind at all? Airshow this weekend?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:54:52am

re: #408 The Vicious Babushka

Forget it Jack, it’s Louie

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Nyet  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:55:03am
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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:55:51am

Hey Beach!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:56:15am

re: #419 JordanRules

Orly?

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It was time years ago.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:56:17am

re: #420 Unshaken Defiance

No air show that I know of. An Eagles game is supposed to be starting soon. Might be for that.

Update: Eagles Home Opener is probably why the jets were flying low. There is always a big home opener for the ‘boids.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:56:19am

re: #418 The Vicious Babushka

That is horrendous. Why would someone do that?

At the Charleston AME shooting, wingnuts took to social media to try and claim the guy was an atheist. The same claim was made in Oklahoma City.

Are we going to get the blame again?

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JordanRules  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:57:41am
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danarchy  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:00:25am

re: #427 JordanRules

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Good on him.

Unfortunately, that picture makes it look like he just got hit in the balls.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:00:37am

Today I catch up on Vietnam. saw #1, got up through 5 in the DVR.

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Belafon  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:01:12am

My wife said the entire FOX NFL crew went after Trump. She said Terry Bradshaw was especially animated.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:01:57am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:02:10am
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BeachDem  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:02:50am

And to add to the NFL response:

Former NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue: Trump’s comments are ‘insulting and disgraceful’

“For me, to single out any particular group of players and call them SOBs, to me that’s insulting and disgraceful,” Tagliabue told Sports Illustrated.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:03:59am

re: #432 Anymouse 🌹

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You disrespect our country all the time, fuckwad.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:04:18am

re: #415 Nyet

Behold the Master Race.

*snort*

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:04:19am
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JordanRules  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:04:45am

re: #428 danarchy

*extreme chortle*

Accurate.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:08:15am

Sensory overload
Buccaneers @ Vikings on the TV
Trying to keep track of both Dolphins @ Jets & Giants @ Eagles on the ‘puter

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:08:53am

Just a little microcosm of the football crowd.

I follow / they follow back a group of die hard Florida Gator / pro football dudes. I always assume they are trumpers because Florida.

But they still follow me, seeing all my anti yam posts.

Checking several feeds today, they are all #taketheknee

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:09:38am

If players lose their first amendment rights during games can they keep their second? Games are getting boring.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:09:39am
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JordanRules  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:09:46am

re: #430 Belafon

Terry was a little emotional. Howie Long was very good as usual. His son Chris is one of his best testaments though.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:12:25am

re: #381 HappyWarrior

Why the fuck is the Treasury Sec talking about this anyhow?

because he is the very personification of Privileged Rich White Jerk

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:13:19am

Neither of my senators (Fischer, Sasse) nor my representative (Smith) have weighed in on this derp over the NFL.

(They haven’t weighed in on Gold Star Mothers and Families Day either.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:13:50am

re: #390 Blind Frog Belly White

I just read Al Franken’s chapter on Ted Cruz. I want to write to Senator Franken, and quote from the movie “Patton”:

“You magnificent bastard! I READ YOUR BOOK!!!”

I was just about to go start watching the rest of Patton, starting from that very scene…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:14:00am

re: #444 Anymouse 🌹

Neither of my senators (Fischer, Sasse) nor my representative (Smith) have weighed in on this derp over the NFL.

(They haven’t weighed in on Gold Star Mothers and Families Day either.)

Sasse did. Very weakly though.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:15:13am

re: #397 Nyet

Actually not.

Exit polls indicate the two German centrist parties (CDU/SPD) have more than 50% together

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:16:48am

re: #446 HappyWarrior

Sasse did. Very weakly though.

I see he has two Twitter accounts. I missed the other one where he did (sort of) weigh in.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:17:45am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:17:55am

re: #448 Anymouse 🌹

I see he has two Twitter accounts. I missed the other one where he did (sort of) weigh in.

Yeah it was pretty weak.

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Nyet  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:18:00am

re: #447 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Exit polls indicate the two German centrist parties (CDU/SPD) have more than 50% together

And?

bbc.com

Mr Schulz said the result was the end of the “grand coalition” with Mrs Merkel’s alliance.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:18:15am

re: #449 Anymouse 🌹

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The Swastika too.

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:19:57am

re: #430 Belafon

My wife said the entire FOX NFL crew went after Trump. She said Terry Bradshaw was especially animated.

Big surprise there.

Funny how they get upset the guys on the field are making the game political.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:20:44am

re: #451 Nyet

And?

bbc.com

The only other possibility would be a coalition involving Merkel plus the Greens and the Free Democrats, a free-trade party. That also seems like a shaky combination.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:22:22am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:23:46am

re: #452 HappyWarrior

The Swastika too.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:26:10am
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meteor  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:27:16am

re: #422 Nyet

I reported those assholes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:30:59am

re: #451 Nyet

And?

bbc.com

Whether the two major parties are ready to muddle on is obviously a different issue.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:32:18am
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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:32:48am
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DodgerFan1988  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:34:11am

This is the anthem Trump and his Alt-Right cult followers really care about:

Russia National anthem Russian & English lyrics

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:34:46am

Here Are Some Ways People Disrespect the Flag Daily Based on the Flag Code (Huffington Post)

Hint: Taking a knee isn’t one of them.

By the way, if I am going to be a pedant about it, not standing during the National Anthem in your living room violates the Flag Code. I’ll bet the number of whingers on Twitter today who do stand for that at home approaches zero. (The Code doesn’t say when or how the Anthem is played.)

Other things HuffPo didn’t list: Standing and facing the flag when it’s lowered or raised. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone do that here when I lower or raise either mine or those owned by the village.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:35:24am

re: #419 JordanRules

Orly?

[He has a big fan base in Sylacouga, which was very interested in UKIP’s tariff proposals

Wanna have some fun, go to a Sylacauga streetcorner and yell “METEOR”. Get’s em every time.

en.wikipedia.org

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allegro  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:37:46am

re: #430 Belafon

My wife said the entire FOX NFL crew went after Trump. She said Terry Bradshaw was especially animated.

Ditto CBS Inside the NFL. No equivocation at all.

Watching Texans @ Pats. No Texans kneeled it appeared but they were locked arm in arm. Quite a few Patriots took the knee, the rest locked arm in arm. Gotta say the guy who sang the anthem (anthem booed for a few seconds before and after by the Pats crowd) had some amazing pipes and may have been the best performance of the song I’ve ever heard.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:40:12am
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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:40:22am
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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:42:03am
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JordanRules  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:42:07am

re: #464 Decatur Deb

Ha! Very good data point on value of space rocks!

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:42:14am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:44:11am

re: #468 Stanley Sea

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Seriously. How clueless are people like that?

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electrotek  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:45:23am

re: #470 FormerDirtDart

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Dammit, this is bad.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:45:36am

I never thought Trump would be like this! Yeah maybe if you actually got the stupid MAGA hat off your head and actually listened to him, you’d know that this isn’t shocking at all. We’re talking about a man who encouraged violence against those protesting him.

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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:46:07am

re: #471 HappyWarrior

I don’t know. He kept thinking Mark Sanchez was going to work at quarterback with the Jets.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:46:29am
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A Cranky One  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:46:35am

Petting your dog can be very therapeutic:

digg.com

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:46:42am

re: #469 JordanRules

Ha! Very good data point on value of space rocks!

They bought a house!

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Skip Intro  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:47:14am

re: #472 electrotek

Dammit, this is bad.

Just another day in America.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:47:41am

re: #228 HappyWarrior

And they have a former Army Ranger on the team too.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:48:31am

re: #475 Anymouse 🌹

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That noble warrior for conservatism, Andrew Breitbart. Such a kind soul. //

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:48:48am

re: #479 FormerDirtDart

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Yep, I have the game on.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:49:37am

re: #473 HappyWarrior

I never thought Trump would be like this! Yeah maybe if you actually got the stupid MAGA hat off your head and actually listened to him, you’d know that this isn’t shocking at all. We’re talking about a man who encouraged violence against those protesting him.

The guy who took out a full page newspaper advert calling for the execution of people who were innocent of rape charges.

Stiffs his contractors.

Slandered Mexicans.

Attacked Gold Star Families.

Mocked a disabled reporter, and encouraged his supporters to attack the press.

But somehow that was a bridge too far for him?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:50:41am

re: #482 Anymouse 🌹

The guy who took out a full page newspaper advert calling for the execution of people who were innocent of rape charges.

Stiffs his contractors.

Slandered Mexicans.

Attacked Gold Star Families.

Mocked a disabled reporter, and encouraged his supporters to attack the press.

But somehow that was a bridge too far for him?

I mean I’m glad he’s upset but it took him insulting athletes for Ryan to realize Trump was scummy?

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Decatur Deb  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:51:56am

re: #469 JordanRules

Ha! Very good data point on value of space rocks!

re: #477 Stanley Sea

They bought a house!

Interestingly, the area has a big space rock history. About 80 million years ago it was hit by a county-wide blast that formed the Wetumpka Crater.

Not much has happened since.
en.wikipedia.org

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TedStriker  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:51:59am

re: #482 Anymouse 🌹

The guy who took out a full page newspaper advert calling for the execution of people who were innocent of rape charges.

Stiffs his contractors.

Slandered Mexicans.

Attacked Gold Star Families.

Mocked a disabled reporter, and encouraged his supporters to attack the press.

But somehow that was a bridge too far for him?

For many in this country, football (and pro sports, in general) is a religion; attack the religion and the followers get riled up.

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KGxvi  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:52:09am

So, this is interesting:

Fewer than three in 10 Americans — 29% — hold a favorable view of the Republican Party according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS. That is down 13 percentage points from March and is the lowest mark for the GOP since CNN began asking the question in 1992.

GOP favorability is within the margin of error from the crazification factor. The Democrats are at 41-51 favorability, so underwater but not the 31 points that the GOP is.

Also of note: 61% polled believe Trump does not deserve re-election.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:52:36am

re: #483 HappyWarrior

I mean I’m glad he’s upset but it took him insulting athletes for Ryan to realize Trump was scummy?

It is my experience that many conservatives have no empathy for others unless those others are somehow personally related to them or are important to them.

Hence Sen. Rob Portman’s opposition to LGBT rights, until his son came out.

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JordanRules  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:52:40am

re: #483 HappyWarrior

I doubt he’s really upset or upset about the things that matter here.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:52:52am

re: #479 FormerDirtDart

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He gets to. That’s the point.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:53:05am

This does not seem random

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:53:49am

re: #487 Anymouse 🌹

It is my experience that many conservatives have no empathy for others unless those others are somehow personally related to them or are important to them.

Hence Sen. Rob Portman’s opposition to LGBT rights, until his son came out.

Yep, I agree with your observations. It’s very true.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:54:07am

re: #489 Decatur Deb

He gets to. That’s the point.

Yep

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:55:12am

re: #485 TedStriker

For many in this country, football (and pro sports, in general) is a religion; attack the religion and the followers get riled up.

The yam fails at everything simple and hard.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:55:58am

re: #489 Decatur Deb

He gets to. That’s the point.

Yep. It’s all about having the right to do or not do.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:56:10am

LOL

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 10:59:42am

re: #495 Anymouse 🌹

LOL

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Pathetic Sasse. And please stop using our troops to tell people they can’t do things that they have the legal right to do.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:01:24am

I just don’t want to hear crying about how Milo should be able to speak at every campus he wants to without interruption while these same people can’t handle a silent protest.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:03:02am

re: #496 HappyWarrior

Pathetic Sasse. And please stop using our troops to tell people they can’t do things that they have the legal right to do.

Sen. Sasse is right in there with the guys who want to privatise the VA and gut the healthcare insurance system under the ACA.

If he wants to show a principled stand against Donald Trump, he could vote against this bill. That wouldn’t occur to him because it’s GOP first.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:03:24am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:04:39am

re: #498 Anymouse 🌹

Sen. Sasse is right in there with the guys who want to privatise the VA and gut the healthcare insurance system under the ACA.

If he wants to show a principled stand against Donald Trump, he could vote against this bill. That wouldn’t occur to him because it’s GOP first.

He’s a phony.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:05:50am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:05:58am

Presidential priorities:

I need a nap, so I’ll catch y’all later. I have “dialling for water samples” to do this afternoon (lining up people to be at home so I can get the samples the state requires).

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:07:09am

re: #502 Anymouse 🌹

Presidential priorities:

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I need a nap, so I’ll catch y’all later. I have “dialling for water samples” to do this afternoon (lining up people to be at home so I can get the samples the state requires).

I’d be honestly shocked if Trump knows PR is part of the U.S.

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ICH LIEBE DICH!!!  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:08:19am

re: #368 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kind of funny how “they can do free speech on their own time” applies only to athletes protesting racial injustice but not to bakeries… Just shows how little actual commitment these asshats have for the principles that truly make America great.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:09:22am

re: #504 ICH LIEBE DICH!!!

Kind of funny how “they can do free speech on their own time” applies only to athletes protesting racial injustice but not to bakeries… Just shows how little actual commitment these asshats have for the principles that truly make America great.

Yep.

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Nyet  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:09:49am

lololol

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:10:22am

re: #504 ICH LIEBE DICH!!!

Kind of funny how “they can do free speech on their own time” applies only to athletes protesting racial injustice but not to bakeries… Just shows how little actual commitment these asshats have for the principles that truly make America great.

I thought this was “Free Speech Week?”

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:11:11am

re: #503 HappyWarrior

I’d be honestly shocked if Trump knows PR is part of the U.S.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:12:26am

My next sign will definitely include U BUM

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:14:57am

re: #506 Nyet

lololol

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Ah yes. So sayeth in the Quran, Pam Geller must be denied a YouTube account.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:15:36am

re: #507 DodgerFan1988

I thought this was “Free Speech Week?”

Only for douchebags with tiki torches and CSA flags and really bad hair cuts.

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Nyet  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:15:53am

re: #510 HappyWarrior

Ah yes. So sayeth in the Quran, Pam Geller must be denied a YouTube account.

It’s actually in the hadith ;)

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:16:02am
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Nyet  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:17:26am

What kind of church is it?

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:19:35am

re: #511 HappyWarrior

Only for douchebags with tiki torches and CSA flags and really bad hair cuts.

The CSA flag, the flag of secession, sedition, and treason. Now who’s really being disrespectful to the American flag now?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:20:16am

re: #514 Nyet

What kind of church is it?

Church of Christ

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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:22:22am

re: #516 The Vicious Babushka

Not to make light of this latest shooting, but I did a face palm about this story some time ago.

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

Edit: Spelling

Link

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:23:19am
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Belafon  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:24:08am

re: #514 Nyet

What kind of church is it?

The facebook page shows pictures of a mixed race congregation.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:24:51am
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Belafon  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:25:48am

re: #518 The Vicious Babushka

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Not that Trump cares, but Jesus spoke numerous times about not doing something just for the ratings.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:26:00am

re: #506 Nyet

lololol

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Nyet  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:26:45am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:26:48am

Who TF is this person? Some attention seeking nitwit?

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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:27:38am

re: #524 The Vicious Babushka

Leaving for a bigger paycheck.

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Nyet  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:28:49am

re: #524 The Vicious Babushka

She’s the darling of many on the lighter alt-right.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:29:50am

re: #526 Nyet

She’s the darling of many on the lighter alt-right.

I looked at its Twitter feed. Just a bunch of complaining about how Black conservatives are SOOOOO MISTREATED. A li’l Omarosa wannabee.

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Belafon  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:30:11am

re: #524 The Vicious Babushka

Who TF is this person? Some attention seeking nitwit?

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Whatever her motive, Fox has her on to make whites feel comfortable out their choices.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:31:50am

re: #524 The Vicious Babushka

Who TF is this person? Some attention seeking nitwit?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:31:52am

re: #520 Charles Johnson

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They’re not saying boo. They’re saying boo-urns.

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Nyet  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:32:03am

re: #527 The Vicious Babushka

I looked at its Twitter feed. Just a bunch of complaining about how Black conservatives are SOOOOO MISTREATED. A li’l Omarosa wannabee.

One ex-Lizard Nazi-sympathizer is a fan.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:32:38am

re: #524 The Vicious Babushka

Who TF is this person? Some attention seeking nitwit?

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Not as much as they are conservatives.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:33:05am

re: #532 Nyet

One ex-Lizard Nazi-sympathizer is a fan.

Gee I wonder who that is.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:33:16am

re: #532 Nyet

One ex-Lizard Nazi-sympathizer is a fan.

Many people who go bad seem to be desperate to prove that the people who reject them are the real bad people.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:33:23am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:34:36am
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Nyet  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:34:43am
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weave  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:35:28am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:35:30am

re: #536 Dr. Matt

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:35:32am

Praise be guns in church!!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:36:38am

re: #536 Dr. Matt

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Okay Coulter Jr.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:37:21am

re: #538 Nyet

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Neo-Nazis too. And Religious Right assholes who liked Putin more than Obama.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:38:03am

re: #524 The Vicious Babushka

Who TF is this person? Some attention seeking nitwit?

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There’s an irony about the Alt-Right and their slogan “taking the red pill.” It’s an obvious term from the Matrix Trilogy, but it seems these Right Wing Trolls missed a hidden multicultural message from the films. In the movies, most of the heroes were from diversified backgrounds. Morpheus, Lock, Link, The Oracle are black. Mifune, Ghost, Seraph, The Keymaker are asian. Plus the women are the strong female types like Trinity, Niobe, Zee, Switch. Zion population were ethically mixed. Even one of the directors of the Matrix is transgendered ( Lilly Wachowski). All those multicultural ideas from the films are diametrically opposed to what The Alt-Right stands for, which is a straight, white male hegemony.

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weave  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:39:24am

re: #524 The Vicious Babushka

Who TF is this person? Some attention seeking nitwit?

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The new nomenclature the right are using these days is scary, like “taking the red pill” and “bending the knee.” It’s all about surrendering your free thought and free will and submitting to authority. How the hell is this even a thing with them?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:39:54am

re: #544 DodgerFan1988

There’s an irony about the Alt-Right and their slogan “taking the red pill.” It’s an obvious term from the Matrix Trilogy, but it seems these Right Wing Trolls missed a hidden multicultural message from the films. In the movies, most of the heroes were from diversified backgrounds. Morpheus, Lock, Link, The Oracle are black. Mifune, Ghost, Seraph, The Keymaker are asian. Plus the women are the strong female types like Trinity, Niobe, Zee, Switch. Zion population were ethically mixed. Even one of the directors of the Matrix is transgendered ( Lilly Wachowski). All those multicultural ideas from the films are diametrically opposed to what The Alt-Right stands for, which is a straight, white male hegemony.

Actually both Wachowski’s are transgendered. But yeah. And what they don’t get is they’re the biggest tools of all.

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Nyet  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:42:03am
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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:43:32am
Police say a male gunman wearing a neoprene ski mask opened fire at Burnette Chapel Church of Christ, killing a woman and injuring six others. One man who confronted the shooter was violently pistol whipped. All victims have been taken to the hospital.

A male member of the church exited the sanctuary, got a gun from his vehicle and confronted the shooter, who then shot himself, according to Don Aaron, spokesman for police.

Aaron said police have identified the gunman, who is believed to be a resident of Rutherford County, and will be releasing his name shortly.

All of the wounded have been taken to area hospitals, the fire department says. The majority are older adults. “All of the wounded except for one is over the age of 60,” the Nashville Fire Department said.

tennessean.com

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:44:32am

re: #547 Nyet

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Ein Reich, ein convefe, ein doltard!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:44:36am

re: #545 weave

The new nomenclature the right are using these days is scary, like “taking the red pill” and “bending the knee.” It’s all about surrendering your free thought and free will and submitting to authority. How the hell is this even a thing with them?

When you think about it, though, the religious right in particular is extremely heavy on authoritarianism. They preach a strict system of submission - women submit to men or burn in hell; men submit to pastors or burn in hell; pastors ostensibly submit to Jesus, but we all know the rules don’t apply to the people in charge. Everything going on in the wingnut right derives in some form or fashion from hyper-conservative evangelicalism.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:45:46am

re: #550 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

When you think about it, though, the religious right in particular is extremely heavy on authoritarianism. They preach a strict system of submission - women submit to men or burn in hell; men submit to pastors or burn in hell; pastors ostensibly submit to Jesus, but we all know the rules don’t apply to the people in charge. Everything going on in the wingnut right derives in some form or fashion from hyper-conservative evangelicalism.

The Religious Right to be frank has more in common win the Taliban than the inspiration for our founding documents.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:48:04am

re: #541 Stanley Sea

Praise be guns in church!!

Or in the parking lot

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:48:11am

re: #551 HappyWarrior

The Religious Right to be frank has more in common win the Taliban than the inspiration for our founding documents.

There is little doubt of that. Evangelicals try to trace their history back to colonial days to make themselves into some kind of religious heirs to the mantle of The One True Christianity. I’ve got news for you: No modern incarnation of Christianity is the One True Christianity, because there’s no such thing. There’s a few core beliefs, and the rest of it is entirely up to your conscience and the cultural context.

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Nyet  Sep 24, 2017 • 11:50:28am

I think President It should take a knee. In his groin.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:07:06pm
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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:07:56pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:10:26pm

Someone tried to shame me or anyone who ever accepted a government check. I had a word.

When I lost my store, and my family business, Well I took the checks and payed my rent. I paid into unemployment, into all those taxes. So when i was in need I was happy to have the help. I never went homeless, by the grace of god, and the help of our kind government got a better job. Been there almost 35 years. I not proud of needing help or accepting it. But I do not feel one tiny scintilla of shame for taking unemployment.
Like * Reply * Just now

Facebook Post

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:10:30pm

re: #556 FormerDirtDart

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Attention whore is desperate.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:16:34pm

re: #558 HappyWarrior

Attention whore is desperate.

The grift doesn’t work without the occasional “public” event

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:16:44pm

re: #557 Unshaken Defiance

Someone tried to shame me or anyone who ever accepted a government check. I had a word.

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You shouldn’t. We have programs designed to help people for a reason. I’ve used government programs to help improve my interviewing skills. I see government programs as an investment in our citizens and they invested in you just as they did in me.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:17:17pm

re: #559 FormerDirtDart

The grift doesn’t work without the occasional “public” event

In a few years, he’ll be forgotten and some other pathetic RW attention junkie wil ltake his place and he’ll just be a bitter old queen.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:17:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:19:32pm

re: #562 FormerDirtDart

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How about a Presidential candidate who said he liked people who served who weren’t captured?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:19:38pm

re: #562 FormerDirtDart

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It’s only divisive because you guys are claiming it’s disrespect. They’re not protesting the Anthem itself, you stupid fucks.

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Nyet  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:20:26pm
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allegro  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:21:29pm

re: #557 Unshaken Defiance

Someone tried to shame me or anyone who ever accepted a government check. I had a word.

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Also yet another example of their cluelessness on how insurance works. We pay into unemployment insurance, just like car/home/health insurance. There is no gift involved. Should one be shamed for accepting payment from an insurance company to pay for car damage after an accident?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:22:01pm

re: #565 Nyet

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Obligatory:

(Source: xkcd.com)

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Nyet  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:23:12pm

re: #567 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The idiots have been arguing lately that services like Twitter, Facebook and YouTube are public utilities. What a bunch of apes.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:23:37pm
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allegro  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:24:18pm

re: #569 Stanley Sea

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Yeah, that will work. *gasping from laughter*

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:24:31pm

re: #568 Nyet

The idiots have been arguing lately that services like Twitter, Facebook and YouTube are public utilities. What a bunch of apes.

Even if they were treated as public utilities, what does that change? I don’t have a fundamental right to gas service. If I don’t pay my bill, they shut it off. Similarly, you don’t have a fundamental right to social media. If you’re an asshole, they can ban you. Simple as that.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:26:32pm

re: #569 Stanley Sea

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And that’s their right. It’s pathetic though.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:27:03pm

re: #547 Nyet

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:27:35pm

re: #569 Stanley Sea

My dad was overflowing with praise for Hair Furor yesterday when I called, talking about him calling for the players to be fired. But I guaran-fucking-tee you he’ll keep watching the games. Even if they stopped, so many more people will continue watching because they don’t care - or actively support the movement - that it won’t even matter. You’re losing whatever tenuous grasp on reality you still had, ya wingnut dotards.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:28:45pm

They’ll continue to bitch at the NFL but they’ll continue watching.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:29:34pm

re: #569 Stanley Sea

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Has a US president ever endorsed a boycott of a company or organization?

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:31:16pm

re: #576 Dr. Matt

Has a US president ever endorsed a boycott of a company or organization?

Doubt it.

Everything is toast with the yam

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:32:18pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:35:54pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:37:14pm

re: #579 The Vicious Babushka

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He didn’t know what the 13 stripes are for either. Yeah Trumpers. He’s so patriotic.//

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:45:03pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:45:20pm

re: #581 Stanley Sea

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BUT HIS EMAILS!!!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:46:26pm
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Belafon  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:49:47pm

re: #575 HappyWarrior

They’ll continue to bitch at the NFL but they’ll continue watching.

They’ll just wear their shirts inside out. That’ll show ‘em.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:52:45pm

Pay attention u bum

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:55:38pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:56:44pm
Tomi Lahren @TomiLahren * 822,193 FOLLOWERS * 10,442 TWEETS Verified Account
Follow
Fox News. Faith. Family. Freedom. Final Thoughts. teamtomi.com

She left off “Fraud”, and called hot-takes “final thoughts”. People like this are awful.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 12:58:22pm

re: #587 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

She left off “Fraud”, and called hot-takes “final thoughts”. People like this are awful.

She’a nothing but a Millennial Coulter.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:02:49pm

re: #588 HappyWarrior

She’a nothing but a Millennial Coulter.

People aren’t getting better or smarter. It sucks.

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Belafon  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:03:06pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:04:50pm

re: #589 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

People aren’t getting better or smarter. It sucks.

Yep it’s frustrating.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:05:22pm

Dinesh D’Felon gets PWN3D by an actual historian

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:08:12pm

re: #592 The Vicious Babushka

Dinesh D’Felon gets PWN3D by an actual historian

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Haha who’s the hypocrite now douche face?

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:09:35pm

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:10:44pm

re: #594 Stanley Sea

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:11:53pm

re: #594 Stanley Sea

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:13:22pm

re: #595 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:14:22pm
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:16:23pm

re: #597 Stanley Sea

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:16:24pm

re: #579 The Vicious Babushka

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I think that is a Photoshop. I believe there was another earlier that was a faked tweet about Trump suggesting some protest or something.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:17:00pm

re: #599 PhillyPretzel

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Nyet  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:19:32pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:20:43pm

re: #602 Nyet

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It’s so stupid.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:21:20pm

He really is going to try to fight the NFL.

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Belafon  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:26:10pm

re: #604 Stanley Sea

He really is going to try to fight the NFL.

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As it’s been said before, the NFL owns a day of the week. That would be like trying to have supporters boycott McDonald’s.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:26:14pm

re: #604 Stanley Sea

I am not fond of football but I do not want to see the uncouth one go after the NFL.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:26:17pm

re: #600 ObserverArt

I think that is a Photoshop. I believe there was another earlier that was a faked tweet about Trump suggesting some protest or something.

You’re right. I deleted that Tweet.

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allegro  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:27:09pm

I don’t think I’ve mentioned yet today that I really hate the NE Patriots and wish they would get a collective cramp. Remedying that now. *grumbles*

That said, mucho kudos to the Texans for a well fought and very fun to watch game. Especially since I fully expected a blood bath.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:27:49pm

re: #606 PhillyPretzel

I am not fond of football but I do not want to see the uncouth one go after the NFL.

I’m getting a little giddy at how stupid he is.

The owners are going to be pissed that he’s going after their $.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:28:27pm

re: #608 allegro

I don’t think I’ve mentioned yet today that I really hate the NE Patriots and wish they would get a collective cramp. Remedying that now. *grumbles*

That said, mucho kudos to the Texans for a well fought and very fun to watch game. Especially since I fully expected a blood bath.

I was scoreboard watching. You guys put up a great fight. I hate NE too. So sick of Trump’s boy Brady. Just be 40 already goddamn it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:29:43pm

Lions won in the last 4 seconds but refs took the game away from them!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:31:39pm

re: #611 The Vicious Babushka

Lions won in the last 4 seconds but refs took the game away from them!

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Sucks. I have a soft spot for the Lions since my dad’s parents and older siblings lived in Detroit for a while.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:32:36pm

re: #609 Stanley Sea

I’m getting a little giddy at how stupid he is.

The owners are going to be pissed that he’s going after their $.

I suspect it will go over as well as most wingnut boycotts have. They’ll get puffy about it and then they’ll find a new outrage. You just know Trump will have something to say about this year’s Starbucks winter cup.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:32:49pm

re: #611 The Vicious Babushka

Lions won in the last 4 seconds but refs took the game away from them!

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He was down before the ball crossed the plane

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allegro  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:33:03pm

re: #611 The Vicious Babushka

Lions won in the last 4 seconds but refs took the game away from them!

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There was a real bad call in the Texans/Pats game that forced a Texans field goal rather than the touchdown they most likely would have gotten. Good holding call was overturned. O’Brien about had a stroke over it. Ultimately cost them the game.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:35:22pm

re: #615 allegro

There was a real bad call in the Texans/Pats game that forced a Texans field goal rather than the touchdown they most likely would have gotten. Good holding call was overturned. O’Brien about had a stroke over it. Ultimately cost them the game.

Stupid NE always has all the luck. I keep on hoping for them to fade. BTW I can’t help but to like your QB, Watson. He seems like a great kid and I admire the way Savage handled being benched for him after his agent mouthed off. I can’t stand NE. I have a lot of friends including people here who are fans of that team but man I can’t stand them. And then Brady, Belichick, and Kraft make it even easier by supporting the orange prick.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:35:56pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:37:05pm

re: #617 Stanley Sea

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Wonder if NASCAR will ban CSA regala from their races? Nah but kneeling somehow is awful.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:37:26pm

re: #617 Stanley Sea

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As someone who’s been to several NASCAR races, the infield (before and after the race) is possibly one of the most disgusting places I have ever seen in my (admittedly short) life. White trash everywhere.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:39:46pm

re: #618 HappyWarrior

Wonder if NASCAR will ban CSA regala from their races? Nah but kneeling somehow is awful.

The thing is, they can get away with this because they know all of the drivers and their employees are good ol’ Southern white boys. Now if I was in there, I’d be tempted to do it and dare them to fire me. Talk about starting a conversation.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:42:51pm

re: #620 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The thing is, they can get away with this because they know all of the drivers and their employees are good ol’ Southern white boys. Now if I was in there, I’d be tempted to do it and dare them to fire me. Talk about starting a conversation.

Yeah it’d be tempting. I mean they’d be within their legal right to do it but at the same time, I think doing it makes one look like an asshole.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:43:31pm

re: #621 HappyWarrior

Yeah it’d be tempting. I mean they’d be within their legal right to do it but at the same time, I think doing it makes one look like an asshole.

To the rest of us, sure. To their target audience, though, they’d be heroes and the person being fired would be the asshole. Reality inversion.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:44:36pm

re: #622 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

To the rest of us, sure. To their target audience, though, they’d be heroes and the person being fired would be the asshole. Reality inversion.

Yeah for sure. I find the whole thing kind of funny because wingnuts are obsesed with calling us snowflakes and overly sensitive. Look who’s fucking talking?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:45:33pm

re: #623 HappyWarrior

Yeah for sure. I find the whole thing kind of funny because wingnuts are obsesed with calling us snowflakes and overly sensitive. Look who’s fucking talking?

Right? All this from the same people who proudly wore “Fuck Your Feelings” shirts less than a year ago.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 24, 2017 • 1:47:19pm

re: #624 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Right? All this from the same people who proudly wore “Fuck Your Feelings” shirts less than a year ago.

My one wingnut friend I shit you not was complaining about Happy Holidays when it was still summer. I respect the dude since he’s a combat vet and a good dad but politicswise man.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 24, 2017 • 2:28:40pm

re: #624 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Right? All this from the same people who proudly wore “Fuck Your Feelings” shirts less than a year ago.

Does anyone have that picture of those dumbasses wearing the “Fuck Your Feelings” shirts? It seems to have vanished from Google search.

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EPR-radar  Sep 24, 2017 • 2:29:06pm

re: #606 PhillyPretzel

I am not fond of football but I do not want to see the uncouth one go after the NFL.

I do. tr*mp will lose.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2017 • 2:36:03pm

re: #604 Stanley Sea

He really is going to try to fight the NFL.

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He is still pissed that they wouldn’t let him join the NFL owners club.

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 2:39:26pm

re: #626 The Vicious Babushka

Does anyone have that picture of those dumbasses wearing the “Fuck Your Feelings” shirts? It seems to have vanished from Google search.

VB. I may be late seeing this, but the image was in a tweet in the last thread I am pretty sure. I remember seeing it either last night or today.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2017 • 2:46:03pm

re: #626 The Vicious Babushka

Does anyone have that picture of those dumbasses wearing the “Fuck Your Feelings” shirts? It seems to have vanished from Google search.

google gives me LOTS of images, including this one:

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ObserverArt  Sep 24, 2017 • 2:53:09pm

And here is the link to the tweet I saw with the popular image.

Video: Stephen Colbert Calls Out Kim Jong Un for Making Fun of Donald Trump - Comment #158

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Sep 24, 2017 • 9:05:59pm

I’d like to take this opportunity to say that respect is given, not earned.


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“Did You Even READ the Piece?” This Startup Wants to Make That Question Obsolete for Commentors Let’s be honest: Are you going to read this or skim this? In a land of feeds, tidbits, and bullet points, readers don’t often get to the end of a piece — let alone absorb each sentence along the ...
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Young the Giant: Simplify (Official Audio) Young The Giant's official audio for their new single 'Simplify' - available now. Download / Stream 'Simplify': lnk.to Catch Young The Giant on Tour this fall with very special guest Lights!More info at: youngthegiant.com Site: youngthegiant.comFacebook: facebook.comTwitter: @youngthegiantInstagram: instagram.comYouTube: ...
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Traveller - ‘Nobody Makes It Out’ (Live at WFUV)wfuv.org • Follow @wfuv: ow.ly Traveller performs "Nobody Makes It Out" live in Studio A. Recorded 5.9.18. Host: Alisa AliAudio: Caroline InzucchiCameras: Kristal Ho, Brian Gallagher & Kaylee KurkierewiczEditors: Kaylee Kurkierewicz & Brian Gallagher
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Fantastic Negrito - the Duffler (Official Video) ‘The Duffler’ is taken from Fantastic Negrito's brand new album 'Please Don't Be Dead' out now. Order your copy here: fn.lnk.to Director: Freddy Macdonald Producer: Fred MacdonaldCinematographer: Sebastian KlingerEditor: Freddy MacdonaldProduction Company: Macdonald Entertainment Partners Check here for Fantastic ...
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Facebook’s Screening for Political Ads Nabs News Sites… One ad couldn’t have been more obviously political. Targeted to people aged 18 and older, it urged them to “vote YES” on June 5 on a ballot proposition to issue bonds for schools in a district near San Francisco. ...
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Stanford Prison Experiment: Why Famous Psychology Studies Are Now Being Torn Apart Sometimes pseudoscience makes it through to the text books, most often in the soft and social sciences. A new exposé based on previously unpublished recordings of Philip Zimbardo, the Stanford psychologist who ran the study, and interviews with his ...
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Goliath Season 2 - Official Trailer In Season 2 of Goliath, Billy McBride takes on a new case, and the fight spills into the streets of Los Angeles and alleys of Venice Beach.Goliath returns 6/15 on Prime Video. » Stream Goliath 6/15 on Prime Video: ...
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Wild Nothing - Letting Go "Letting Go" is the first single from Wild Nothing's forthcoming album, 'Indigo', out 08/31/2018 on Captured Tracks. Order here: wildnothing.lnk.to Follow Wild Nothing:wildnothingmusic.comwildnothingct.bandcamp.comfacebook.cominstagram.com@WildNothingopen.spotify.com Lyrics:It's getting hard for me to reframe all those shifting memoriesLike a music box that never ...
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Third Circuit Nominee Tries to Walk Back Past Comments, Writing Porter appeared before the Judiciary Committee Wednesday despite not receiving the approval of Sen. Bob Casey, D-Pa. Under the tradition known as the blue slip, the committee has in the past declined to schedule hearings for nominees who do ...
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Wrongfully Influencing a Private Entity’s Employment Decisions by The Executive When Donald Trump makes pro administration or pro republican, or anti democratic party demands, he is breaking the law. I invite those with some familiarity with how this is actually supposed to work to chime in. (a) Whoever, being ...
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