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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:55:49pm

You know what just occurred with the kneeling thing?

Trump is trying to outsource his fascism to schools, sports leagues, corporations, etc. by getting them to strongarm people into standing for the anthem.

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retired cynic  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:56:46pm

Remember when we just wanted the news media to say the word “LIE.” Like it would be magic. Sigh.

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EPR-radar  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:00:36pm

re: #2 retired cynic

Remember when we just wanted the news media to say the word “LIE.” Like it would be magic. Sigh.

Any progress at all is good, although it’s painful that it’s so slow.

Maybe one day I’ll see a total repudiation of the Republican Party from a major mainstream media organization (e.g., NY Times or Washington Post) run as straight news.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:04:56pm

re: #2 retired cynic

Trump supporters don’t care what others say about his statements. They believe him. They are either brainwashed or malicious or both. My RWNJ brother won’t accept that the Dixiecrats all moved to the Republican party; he regurgitates Dinesh D’Souza’s propaganda that the current Democrats are the home of the racists.

We are in the majority but our gerrymandered districts and gerrymandered Constitution are failing us.

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austin_blue  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:05:35pm

Of *course* I pulled a CL:

Funny. I was always told by my Jesuit teachers that kneeling was supplication to the object being displayed.- as if it wasn’t being respected by those who didn’t kneel.

Hmmm. That puts a whole new light on Kaepernick’s protest, doesn’t it?

It was almost as if he was was pleading for the flag to be respected by law enforcement officers who shot unarmed black men and children.

Yup. Funny, that.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:11:09pm

Tax Plan impact to upper-middle income individuals/families thread

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austin_blue  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:14:14pm

I’m off for the rack, but I’ve gotta ask:

Shiplord, looking at your nicpic, did you really rack up 28 Air Medals? The only guys who did that in ‘Nam were Huey pilots with balls like grapefruits.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:15:35pm

NEXT

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Stanley Sea  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:17:01pm

re: #7 austin_blue

I’m off for the rack, but I’ve gotta ask:

Shiplord, looking at your nicpic, did you really rack up 28 Air Medals? The only guys who did that in ‘Nam were Huey pilots with balls like grapefruits.

I’m for the rack as well, ask this again tomorrow.

I believe so.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:21:45pm

Indeed. From Psalm 22:

“All the ends of the earth
will remember and turn to the Lord,
and all the families of the nations
will bow down before him,
For dominion belongs to the Lord
and he rules over the nations.
All the rich of the earth will feast and worship;
all who go down to the dust will kneel before him
those who cannot keep themselves alive.
Posterity will serve him;
future generations will be told about the Lord.
They will proclaim his righteousness,
declaring to a people yet unborn:
He has done it!”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:22:16pm

re: #8 Stanley Sea

These fuckers are just shoving it in our faces right now.

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retired cynic  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:23:02pm

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

These fuckers are just shoving it in our faces right now.

It is the Sarah Palin rule of governance. I will do what I want until they force me to stop.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:23:38pm

Question:

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:24:20pm

re: #13 Eclectic Cyborg

Question:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:24:34pm

re: #12 retired cynic

Indeed. I have worked for people who abide by a similar philosophy. Yes, that job sucked.

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retired cynic  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:24:55pm

re: #13 Eclectic Cyborg

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I cannot.  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:25:32pm

re: #13 Eclectic Cyborg

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:26:07pm

Thanks, fellow lizards.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:32:54pm

From the previous thread (hi, y’all):

re: #43 HappyWarrior

Please do [referring to watching PBS’s Vietnam War documentary]. It’s a great way to learn about the war that defined our parents’ generation.

My whole family is taking a hard pass on watching this. Too close to home.

I had my screening for the Salt Lake City VA Hosptial osteoporosis study: I am told I have osteopenia (a somewhat controversial designation, part of which the VA study hopes to clear up).

Good news though: My left hand is starting to recover from my surgery: I can now apply 30# of force (vs. 85# with my right hand).

Juanita Jean isn’t happy with Jill Stein:

Okay, so we just found out why there’s a picture of Jill Stein having dinner with Putin. Russia was buying Facebook ads for her.

So how does she respond … ?

She Twitters.

Hey, I do not feel threatened. Nauseous, yes. Threatened? No.

No, seriously, she tweeted that. And 1,500 people loved it. We are so damn doomed.

Oh Good Lord Jill Stein Is Donald Trump in Drag (goes to Juanita Jean’s)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:36:28pm

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹

From the previous thread (hi, y’all):

My whole family is taking a hard pass on watching this. Too close to home.

I had my screening for the Salt Lake City VA Hosptial osteoporosis study: I am told I have osteopenia (a somewhat controversial designation, part of which the VA study hopes to clear up).

Good news though: My left hand is starting to recover from my surgery: I can now apply 30# of force (vs. 85# with my right hand).

Juanita Jean isn’t happy with Jill Stein:

Oh Good Lord Jill Stein Is Donald Trump in Drag (goes to Juanita Jean’s)

I. An understand that. It’s understandably emotional and hits very close. Stein is a hack. Anyone who thinks she cares about progressive values is deluded.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:39:23pm

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹

At this point, I think she’s a bot.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:39:27pm

re: #20 HappyWarrior

I. An understand that. It’s understandably emotional and hits very close. Stein is a hack. Anyone who thinks she cares about progressive values is deluded.

Yup. The press for the most part won’t call her a liar either:

Green Party presidential nominee Jill Stein has largely based her campaign on her uncompromising positions on the environment, opposition to big banks and Wall Street, defense contractors, and the pharmaceutical industry. But an analysis of her financial disclosures, which she was required to file as a presidential candidate, show she is heavily invested in the very industries that she maligns the most and as a result of her investments, she has built significant wealth.

According to the financial-disclosure form she filed with the U.S. Office of Government Ethics on March 30, 2016, Stein and her husband, Richard Rohrer, have investments (with the exception of real estate) valued at anywhere from $3,832,050 to $8,505,000. (Stein told The Daily Beast she inherited “over a half-million dollars” from her parents.) We don’t know their exact net worth because filers are only required to provide a range of the value of their investments as opposed to exact values.

thedailybeast.com (more)

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:41:01pm

re: #21 Belafon

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At this point, I think she’s a bot.

Am I an elite? I ate at Five Guys in Cheyenne today… . A “working class” ‘Murican would have gone to Burger King or McDonalds. (You can’t force me into Cheyenne’s new Chik-fil-A at the point of a gun.)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:42:04pm

I am not an elite and I like it that way.

I was raised humble and I will stay humble.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:42:52pm

re: #7 austin_blue

I’m off for the rack, but I’ve gotta ask:

Shiplord, looking at your nicpic, did you really rack up 28 Air Medals? The only guys who did that in ‘Nam were Huey pilots with balls like grapefruits.

Must be synchronicity, I responded to your original post on the last string. Here’s an update.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:43:13pm

re: #21 Belafon

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At this point, I think she’s a bot.

“Elites” such an abused word these days.

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retired cynic  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:46:01pm

re: #25 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:47:38pm

re: #27 retired cynic

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retired cynic  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:49:27pm

re: #28 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t mean it that way!!!

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:50:00pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

It’s deliberately meaningless.

Invariably, there’s a sotto voce implication that the not-elite are in some way the “actual” elite, too.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:51:01pm

re: #29 retired cynic

I know you didn’t.

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retired cynic  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:51:25pm

re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg

I know you know.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:52:33pm

Colonel David Hackworth had 34 Air Medals and he wasn’t even a pilot. They were also awarded for air assault participation, and Hackworth did a lot of that, but I don’t know the criteria.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:54:28pm

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TedStriker  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:54:32pm

re: #25 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Must be synchronicity, I responded to your original post on the last string. Here’s an update.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:56:50pm

re: #30 The Ghost of a Flea

It’s deliberately meaningless.

Invariably, there’s a sotto voce implication that the not-elite are in some way the “actual” elite, too.

Well, no one’s called me elite yet. I feel left out.

“Life would be a lot simpler without experts” - TV Series Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman, Episode 23.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:00:39pm

re: #34 GlutenFreeJesus

Hmm. I wonder if that’s a recent edit.

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retired cynic  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:01:26pm

re: #37 Eclectic Cyborg

Hmm. I wonder if that’s a recent edit.

My thoughts, too, but I was too lazy to go look. It’s past my bedtime here.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:02:19pm
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Kragar  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:03:20pm
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retired cynic  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:05:07pm

re: #40 Kragar

WHAT?

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teleskiguy  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:06:13pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:07:47pm

I’m glad we live in a country where conservatives value free speech.

Oh wait, conservative have never valued free speech in my over half-century. But liberals are somehow un-American.

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Kragar  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:08:01pm

re: #41 retired cynic

Tweet is inaccurate, he got voted out of committee

washingtonexaminer.com

The Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday approved President Trump’s nominee to lead the Department of Justice’s Criminal Division.

Brian Benczkowski, a Republican lawyer who once served as a staff director of the committee for former Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., was advanced in an 11-9 party-line vote and will soon head to the Senate floor for a confirmation vote.

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JordanRules  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:08:23pm

Lemme post this before I dig into Kragar’s post @ 40 and lose my got damn mind.

I was clapping and got really emotional.

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Kragar  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:11:01pm
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retired cynic  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:11:08pm

re: #44 Kragar

Puts it off for a bit. Should have known: the Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III connection.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:17:19pm

re: #40 Kragar

He worked for a law firm that had Alfa Bank as a client. That is not the same as “working for the Russians,” but considering the connexions, is worth looking in to.

en.wikipedia.org

Wikipedia notes he has been nominated for the Criminal Division of the DOJ; it does not say he was confirmed for that position.

congress.gov

He has been placed on the Congressional calendar for consideration. That is not the same as “he has the job.” He was not confirmed today.

washingtonpost.com

The Washington Post reported back at the end of July this guy was nominated. At the time he acknowledged his work with the law firm on behalf of Alfa Bank to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

The tweet above is untrue (he has not been confirmed). If the standard for confirmation of a position is “never worked for a criminal as a lawyer,” an awful lot of lawyers representing criminal clients could not get appointed to anything. Same goes for those who work for the lawyers.

The person certainly requires scrutiny in light of what’s going on, but Alfa Bank is allowed to hire lawyers to represent it, just as any other corporation is. He worked for a law firm, not Alfa Bank.

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JordanRules  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:24:50pm

re: #48 Anymouse 🌹

Optics are horrible. Was there nobody else qualified that they could nominate who hadn’t JUST worked with an entity embroiled in the investigation?

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retired cynic  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:25:31pm

re: #49 JordanRules

Optics are horrible. Was there nobody else qualified that they could nominate who hadn’t JUST worked with an entity embroiled in the investigation?

They do not care. “Their base” won’t even notice.

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JordanRules  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:29:40pm

re: #50 retired cynic

No doubt. I’m thinking back on some of the folks Obama Admin let go or asked to resign just for the slightest whiff of drama. Public service standards should be super high but sometimes I thought they were a little too quick to cut formal ties. Now… psshhh…nobody gives a damn about anything.

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teleskiguy  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:33:06pm

Blown. Away.

18 hours of gut wrenching humanity.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:37:18pm

re: #42 teleskiguy

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Wait for the flat-earthers to claim it’s a photoshopped image by NASA.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:37:39pm

re: #35 TedStriker

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teleskiguy  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:41:50pm

re: #54 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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wheat-dogg  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:51:25pm

re: #54 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:52:55pm

re: #54 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:53:38pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Sep 28, 2017 • 11:01:50pm

re: #58 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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teleskiguy  Sep 28, 2017 • 11:06:26pm

re: #53 wheat-dogg

Wait for the flat-earthers to claim it’s a photoshopped image by NASA.

And the Japanese, too!

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 28, 2017 • 11:11:34pm

re: #59 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Sep 28, 2017 • 11:16:52pm

re: #61 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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teleskiguy  Sep 28, 2017 • 11:19:18pm

THE MOON LANDING WAS FAKE

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 28, 2017 • 11:29:35pm

I’m glad to hear that Ambassador Graham Martin gets his due in the Burns doc, that is, total exposure and vilification. The man was a jackass. He was also a favorite of Richard Nixon, perhaps demonstrating that the South Vietnamese government wasn’t the only one whose war effort suffered from cronyism.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 28, 2017 • 11:36:47pm

re: #63 teleskiguy

THE MOON LANDING WAS FAKE

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I have heard all sorts of BS explanations how the Moon photos were faked, all easily disproved if the listener is willing to abandon his or her prejudices.

IOW impossible.

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teleskiguy  Sep 28, 2017 • 11:40:23pm

re: #64 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Ambassador Martin is decidedly unsympathetic in The Vietnam War.

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teleskiguy  Sep 28, 2017 • 11:44:28pm

re: #60 teleskiguy

And the Chinese, too!

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 28, 2017 • 11:46:58pm

re: #66 teleskiguy

Ambassador Martin is decidedly unsympathetic in The Vietnam War.

From what I understand of Amb. Martin, he refused to believe the military reports and intelligence coming in on the success of the North Vietnamese invasion. As such, he made the evacuation much worse than it had to be (and caused a lot of deaths).

Compare that with today, where we have the same political party refusing to believe the intelligence reports coming in on the success of Russian infiltration of our election.

It seems as though Republicans have been refuseniks for a long time.

New Olbermamn:

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sagehen  Sep 28, 2017 • 11:52:33pm

re: #61 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 29, 2017 • 12:25:48am

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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2017 • 12:38:21am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 29, 2017 • 12:47:25am

re: #70 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 29, 2017 • 1:19:53am

Back in the 21st century, former Lubbock county Democratic chair
Todd Klein continues trying to ingratiate himself with yokel conservatives.

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dell*nix  Sep 29, 2017 • 1:39:18am

News clippings from 1967to 1975. Have more to scan.

Flickr

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Decatur Deb  Sep 29, 2017 • 1:45:17am

re: #74 dell*nix

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No joy, here. Embed doesnt show. (It fllashes in “Spy.)

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dell*nix  Sep 29, 2017 • 1:53:11am

re: #75 Decatur Deb

Would not let me load the album.Had to load just one image. I still have more clippings to scan.They range from 1967 to 1975. Thailand, Laos and Viet Nam for the plane and location pictures.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 29, 2017 • 1:55:53am

re: #76 dell*nix

Would not let me load the album.Had to load just one image. I still have more clippings to scan.They range from 1967 to 1975. Thailand, Laos and Viet Nam for the plane and location pictures.

Had to refresh, just to get the one S&S. (FF/Linux)

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Decatur Deb  Sep 29, 2017 • 2:07:04am

Picked a good week to visit Birmingham.

Pelham PD: Man stood up thru sunroof, fired shots at another car during road rage incident

wvtm13.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 29, 2017 • 2:45:11am

Someone’s wrong on the Internet.

I am dealing with my wife’s ex-hub in E-mail … he attacked me in E-mail for spreading “fake news” about Dr. Jill Stein (he turned into a Steinbot in the latter part of the election). He doesn’t care to hear that his beloved Jill was all over Twitter attacking “Hollywood elites” when the news surfaced that Faceplant had paid Russian adverts for her.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 29, 2017 • 3:35:24am

re: #73 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Back in the 21st century, former Lubbock county Democratic chair
Todd Klein continues trying to ingratiate himself with yokel conservatives.

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I see he’s using the same crap arguments that other conservatives are. (The message is starting to be lost in the media that this is about unjustified police violence against minorities, and with questionably unlawful verbal attacks on the NFL by the Asterisk, also the I Amendment, not against “teh flag.”)

I made an affirmation to uphold the Constitution. That includes speech I think is uncomfortable or that speech I don’t like. As far as I can tell, conservatives aren’t satisfied with “proper time and place” for protests (whatever that might be), they want minorities to go into a closet (along with LGBT, non-Christians, immigrants, &c &c).

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BigPapa  Sep 29, 2017 • 3:42:43am

Protest Policing is an attempt to reject or deny the argument of the protest without being directly against it.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 29, 2017 • 3:53:44am

‘We, as a society, should be outraged’: a conversation about public health

“Hospital executives hate the Medicaid program because the payment is terrible. But I would submit it’s the most important program in our country. It insures about 83 million Americans — half the births, more than half the kids, and 70 percent of the long-term care spent. Think about that. And everybody hates it and doesn’t want to expand it?” — Kate Walsh, president and CEO of Boston Medical Center

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Birth Control Works  Sep 29, 2017 • 3:53:55am

morning!

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 29, 2017 • 3:55:34am

re: #81 BigPapa

Protest Policing is an attempt to reject or deny the argument of the protest without being directly against it.

I am not against policing—any society as large as ours needs police agencies to enforce laws. I am against police as judge, jury, and executioner against minorities.

I noted here last week I got pulled over by the Nebraska State Patrol about a mile east of the Wyoming line for speeding. (I wasn’t paying proper attention while marvelling at a double rainbow … I don’t usually speed.)

I got a written warning (about fifteen miles over the speed limit on US-30). I imagine I am both white “enough” plus “veteran” emblazoned across my license, along with Gold Star Family plates were enough to convince the police officer I was just inattentive. I shudder to think how I would have been treated if I was a minority. Minority citizens shouldn’t have to put up with that crap.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 29, 2017 • 4:00:03am

re: #83 Birth Control Works

morning!

Hi!

It”s still dark here, and I am into a bottle of rum to counteract the pain from my new left hand splint I got yesterday at the VA. (My index finger is now stretched fully straight by the splint, and it hurts like … well, this is a family-friendly blog and I don’t want to upset Mr. Johnson’s sensibilities on how loudly and crudely I want to yell about how much my hand hurts.)

How are you? I hope things are going well for you, Miss BCW.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 29, 2017 • 4:02:26am

When you see it you will sh*t bricks…

thesun.co.uk

Safe for work I think, I had tears coming out near the end.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 29, 2017 • 4:06:42am

re: #84 Anymouse 🌹

Also to be clear, I am not accusing my state patrol of unequal treatment under the laws.

What I am noting is that with the widely-publicised acts in other states that show unequal policing occurs, the question of unequal policing comes up in every state.

For every action of injustice amongst the police, concerns about unfair policing come up everywhere else.

Perhaps it is not fair to the police in every place that the actions of police in other places are misbehaving, but it begs the question of “if they aren’t fair in other places, are they fair in mine?”

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Birth Control Works  Sep 29, 2017 • 4:07:19am

re: #85 Anymouse 🌹

Hi!

It”s still dark here, and I am into a bottle of rum to counteract the pain from my new left hand splint I got yesterday at the VA. (My index finger is now stretched fully straight by the splint, and it hurts like … well, this is a family-friendly blog and I don’t want to upset Mr. Johnson’s sensibilities on how loudly and crudely I want to yell about how much my hand hurts.)

How are you? I hope things are going well for you, Miss BCW.

aw, shucks, thanks!

Sorry about your hand. I do understand pain.

You can always just @##$%!!!!! about the pain for a full post!

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Birth Control Works  Sep 29, 2017 • 4:15:56am

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Birth Control Works  Sep 29, 2017 • 4:16:47am
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Birth Control Works  Sep 29, 2017 • 4:19:13am

???

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 29, 2017 • 4:20:39am

re: #88 Birth Control Works

aw, shucks, thanks!

Sorry about your hand. I do understand pain.

You can always just @##$%!!!!! about the pain for a full post!

@##$%!!!!!

If I win the Wyoming Lottery in a couple days, I’ll do that again from Saskatchewan.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 29, 2017 • 4:22:57am
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Birth Control Works  Sep 29, 2017 • 4:24:55am

re: #93 Anymouse 🌹

@##$%!!!!!

If I win the Wyoming Lottery in a couple days, I’ll do that again from Saskatchewan.

Go all out and do it it in red!

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 29, 2017 • 4:26:51am

@##$%!!!!!

(mumbled around a Tim Horton’s doughnut and coffee in Liberal Party red)

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Birth Control Works  Sep 29, 2017 • 4:28:29am

re: #96 Anymouse 🌹

@##$%!!!!!

(mumbled around a Tim Horton’s doughnut and coffee in Liberal Party red)

Now, don’t you feel some satisfaction from it?

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 29, 2017 • 4:30:07am

re: #97 Birth Control Works

Now, don’t you feel some satisfaction from it?

LOL.

I could call up my colour list and make a post of that in every colour. /s

O boy, my morning paper just arrived. I can’t wait to read what all my conservative neighbours are up to around here… .

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Birth Control Works  Sep 29, 2017 • 4:31:40am

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹

LOL.

I could call up my colour list and make a post of that in every colour. /s

O boy, my morning paper just arrived. I can’t wait to read what all my conservative neighbours are up to around here… .

I can’t do it anymore.

It’s all I can do to read my email.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 29, 2017 • 4:34:37am

re: #99 Birth Control Works

I can’t do it anymore.

It’s all I can do to read my email.

The majority of my E-mail goes into the bit bucket. “Mass delete” is a useful function. Most of my E-mail comes from addresses I don’t know, so I never open it.

For family and friends, I have the US Mail and a telephone.

This is scary:

Cowboy Draw - Wyoming’s Very Own Lottery Game!

With more Wyoming winners, more fun and better odds, it’s as exciting as an Old West shootout.

I don’t want the excitement of getting shot buying a lotto ticket.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 29, 2017 • 4:35:44am

re: #100 Anymouse 🌹

The majority of my E-mail goes into the bit bucket. “Mass delete” is a useful function. Most of my E-mail comes from addresses I don’t know, so I never open it.

For family and friends, I have the US Mail and a telephone.

This is scary:

I don’t want the excitement of getting shot buying a lotto ticket.

If you are in Wyoming, I”d think any excitement would be welcome . .

/LOL

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 29, 2017 • 4:39:06am
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Birth Control Works  Sep 29, 2017 • 4:40:35am

dogs say I can go back to bed.

bbl

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 29, 2017 • 4:42:13am

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹

O boy, my morning paper just arrived. I can’t wait to read what all my conservative neighbours are up to around here… .

Here’s an example (more at the link) starherald.com

Yeah, none of this happened:

I read the other day that Governor Kenneth Mapp of the U.S. Virgin Islands signed an emergency order that allows the territorial government to seize private guns and ammunition and any other private property the National Guard may deem necessary to respond to Hurricane Irma.

I read where the City Council of Lincoln has proposed an anti-hate resolution. It says that the City of Lincoln recognizes values and will proactively work to promote diversity and inclusion within our community.

Really? What values? Does the city council have a right to tell individual citizens what to feel? What to say? How to think? What if a pastor preaches against homosexuality in a Sunday sermon from a pulpit in a Lincoln church? Will the city work to promote diversity and inclusion to respect everyone’s convictions and beliefs, or will the pastor be branded as intolerant by the city? Will the city council condemn the vulgar attacks against UNL Sophomore Kaitlyn Mullen when she tried to recruit for a conservative student organization on campus? Is she worthy of inclusion?

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 29, 2017 • 4:46:03am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 29, 2017 • 4:49:05am

This is strange… .

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 29, 2017 • 4:50:22am

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹

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During the Civil War New York City wanted to secede and call itself Tri-Insular

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 29, 2017 • 4:52:59am

I just noticed (so much for me paying attention even though I have been here since 2015) that the time stamp on my posts here are in Pacific Time Zone, even though I live in Mythical Time Zone. Does that mean I am ahead of myself?

Tropical Storm Maria and Hurricane Lee look like they are about to merge.

nhc.noaa.gov

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 29, 2017 • 4:55:04am

re: #107 The Vicious Babushka

During the Civil War New York City wanted to secede and call itself Tri-Insular

IO9 notes ten secession movements, though not all were during the Civil War:

io9.gizmodo.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 29, 2017 • 5:05:50am

One such secession movement: Christian Exodus.

Christian Exodus: When it was founded in 2003, the Christian Exodus movement called for a mass migration of Christians to South Carolina with the intention of created a self-governing Christian sovereignty within the state. The original plan was for members of the movement to flood the offices of local government, passing and enforcing Biblically rooted laws in defiance of Supreme Court rulings. Cory Burnell, the group’s founder, told the Los Angeles Times in 2005, “If necessary we will secede from the union.”

Burnell believed at the time that South Carolina would be an optimal state from which to launch a secession from the US. Since then, however, the group has stepped back from its mission for political secession in the face of potential government opposition, stating on its website, “We have learned, however; that the chains of our slavery and dependence upon godless government have more of a hold on us than can be broken by simply moving to another State.” Instead, the Christian Exodus movement now places its emphasis on “personal secession” from American culture, much like other groups that opt out of the mainstream culture, “with the ultimate goal of forming an independent Christian nation that will survive after the decline and fall of the financially and morally bankrupt American empire.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 29, 2017 • 5:10:35am

Assange is still spewing a firehose of Kremlin bullshit from his hiding place in the Ecuadorian embassy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 29, 2017 • 5:13:24am

re: #111 The Vicious Babushka

When is Ecuador going to march that mooch out to the waiting Metropolitan Police?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 5:18:16am

re: #111 The Vicious Babushka

Assange is still spewing a firehose of Kremlin bullshit from his hiding place in the Ecuadorian embassy.

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He’s pathetic.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 29, 2017 • 5:24:24am

Well, the sun is coming up. That’s my cue to hit the rack (that, and I had a three hundred mile drive to the VA and back yesterday).

I am going to take my poor carcass to bed. (Will enough sleep reverse the effects of osteoporosis? Perhaps I should try to find out. /s)

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I cannot.  Sep 29, 2017 • 5:38:58am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 29, 2017 • 5:49:02am

re: #111 The Vicious Babushka

Podesta emails…

Wait, I think I see the problem here….

/

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Sir John Barron  Sep 29, 2017 • 5:50:20am

re: #104 Anymouse 🌹

Here’s an example (more at the link) starherald.com

Yeah, none of this happened:

Gosh, even in conservative Nebraska, conservatives can’t catch a break.

///

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Sir John Barron  Sep 29, 2017 • 5:51:46am

re: #111 The Vicious Babushka

Assange is still spewing a firehose of Kremlin bullshit from his hiding place in the Ecuadorian embassy.

[WikileaksKremlin]Hurr hurr are Facebook fake news ad buys were OK because COO of FB a Hillary-bot![/WikileaksKremlin]

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sagehen  Sep 29, 2017 • 5:56:27am

re: #110 Anymouse 🌹

One such secession movement: Christian Exodus.

Christian Exodus: When it was founded in 2003, the Christian Exodus movement called for a mass migration of Christians to South Carolina with the intention of created a self-governing Christian sovereignty within the state. The original plan was for members of the movement to flood the offices of local government, passing and enforcing Biblically rooted laws in defiance of Supreme Court rulings. Cory Burnell, the group’s founder, told the Los Angeles Times in 2005, “If necessary we will secede from the union.”

“South Carolina is too small for a republic and too large for an insane asylum.”
—James L. Petigru

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Sir John Barron  Sep 29, 2017 • 5:58:00am

re: #46 Kragar

GDP was revised upward to 3.1 for last quarter. Many people thought it would be years before that happened. We have just begun!

— Donald J. Trump

So the economy numbers are all real now? What about 40% unemployment we had just last year?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 29, 2017 • 5:58:55am

re: #26 HappyWarrior

“Elites” such an abused word these days.

Yeah we got well-paid, connected, educated Fox News hosts calling other people “elites”.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:00:26am

re: #121 Sir John Barron

Yeah we got well-paid, connected, educated Fox News hosts calling other people “elites”.

Yep. And people who talk about “Real America” who would never step foot in it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:00:51am

re: #121 Sir John Barron

Yeah we got well-paid, connected, educated Fox News hosts calling other people “elites”.

It works in a world in which Donald Trump can sell himself as a “man of the people”.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:09:38am

re: #120 Sir John Barron

So the economy numbers are all real now? What about 40% unemployment we had just last year?

He created a million private sector jobs* in nine months and brought down from 40% to 3%.////

*He actually just said this.

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sagehen  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:18:19am

So Bill Clinton, George W Bush and Barack Obama are sitting together at the Presidents Cup golf tourney, looking relaxed and super-chummy.

How sour will their expressions be when Trump shows up and they have to share a table with him?

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:20:14am
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dangerman  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:25:58am

re: #126 Barefoot Grin

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Charlie, there is so little information here that you “literally” didn’t say anything relevant

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ObserverArt  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:27:45am

re: #45 JordanRules

Lemme post this before I dig into Kragar’s post @ 40 and lose my got damn mind.

Yashar Ali 🐘 ✔@yashar
You need to watch this right away…trust me. Thank you Lt. Gen. Jay B. Silveria for your service.
10:43 PM - Sep 28, 2017
1,477 1,477 Replies 14,029 14,029 Retweets 25,664 25,664 likes

I was clapping and got really emotional.

Morning!

I watched this video and I note all he said about diversity.

One thing I don’t think I heard in the address by the General was a mention about the power of diversity of “religion.”

Did anyone? I will listen again, I may have missed it. I heard him say race and background…but not religion or even non-religious.

The reason I ask is the Air Force Academy has been under a lot of fire due to their becoming very Evangelical.

And if the general purposely ignored mention diversity of religion I think there are big problems still.

Some of their issues may have to do with “religious thinking” at the Air Force Academy.

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jeffreyw  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:29:58am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:30:26am
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Belafon  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:33:01am

re: #126 Barefoot Grin

“Friend in America need MRI. Can you spare a dollar?”

Also a form of socialism.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:35:57am

re: #126 Barefoot Grin

Friend in Canada really needs an MRI. Canadian healthcare agency just back to him: earliest they can see him is January 15th#SocialismSucks

— Charlie Kirk

Needs an MRI for what? Who or what sort of agency determined that he needed an MRI?

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:39:54am

re: #132 Sir John Barron

Needs an MRI for what? Who or what sort of agency determined that he needed an MRI?

Exactly. Utter BS. The comments in that thread are funny, though.

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darthstar  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:43:38am

Mornin’ Lizards…

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darthstar  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:44:09am

Saw that one and had to steal and drop here.

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William Lewis  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:44:37am

re: #56 wheat-dogg

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:56:40am

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹

When is Ecuador going to march that mooch out to the waiting Metropolitan Police?

When there’s serious international repercussions for letting Mr. Assange stay there. You know, sanctions, hardcore diplomatic pressure, etc.

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William Lewis  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:57:18am

re: #61 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:03:18am

Looks like It is pretty much a certified blockbuster.

Horror blockbuster “It” has turned into a box office monster, crossing the $500 million milestone in worldwide grosses — making it officially the top horror film of all time.

Warner Bros. announced Thursday that “It” has eclipsed the 44-year record belonging to “The Exorcist” as the top grosser among horror films with $441 million. The studio noted that record for “The Exorcist” had been one of the longest-held records in cinema history.

“It” scored the biggest opening weekend ever for a horror film in more than 30 markets, including the U.K., Russia, Brazil, Mexico, and Australia. In 17 of those territories, including the U.K., Russia, and Australia, “It” has already become the top-grossing horror film of all time. The film has plenty of gas in the tank, too, as it has yet to open in Germany, Italy, and Japan.

That’s damned rock-solid for a R-rated horror film. Like the article notes, it’s surpassed The Exorcist and as noted, the film hasn’t opened yet in Germany, Italy and Japan - three countries where horror flicks traditionally do quite well.

variety.com

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ObserverArt  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:04:22am

re: #129 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Kitty to the left seems to be surprised and going “whoa!”

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:04:57am
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jeffreyw  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:10:06am

re: #140 ObserverArt

Kitty to the left seems to be surprised and going “whoa!”

Kitty on top prob being an asshole - “no room, go away”!

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(Bert the Turtle)  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:10:42am

re: #126 Barefoot Grin

Holy shit! That made my morning. Thanks!

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JordanRules  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:15:55am

re: #128 ObserverArt

Speech seemed pretty extemporaneous to me. Purposeful omission would definitely not be good though.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:18:46am

re: #141 Belafon

.@PressSec said the issue the administration’s stance on respect for the flag/anthem is “pretty black and white.”

— Darren Sands

Any why is kneeling ‘disrespectful’?

I sense the real problem some people have with the kneeling part is just that it’s different. If the ‘accepted’ posture during the singing of the anthem was kneeling, and someone wanted to stand instead there would be equal outrage. Maybe some people feel that by kneeling or doing something other than standing the person is drawing attention to themselves when the focus of the anthem is supposed to be unity or the nation, not the individual.

Of course some people bitching are just dicks.

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JordanRules  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:21:14am
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sagehen  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:34:25am

re: #139 Dr Lizardo

Looks like It is pretty much a certified blockbuster.

That’s damned rock-solid for a R-rated horror film. Like the article notes, it’s surpassed The Exorcist and as noted, the film hasn’t opened yet in Germany, Italy and Japan - three countries where horror flicks traditionally do quite well.

variety.com

Can I just say, I’ve always thought clowns were scary as fuck. They’re the centerpiece of this year’s American Horror Story too (Election Year Edition).

Stargate Atlantis - Clowns

Stargate Atlantis - I hate clowns

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JordanRules  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:43:34am
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William Lewis  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:46:12am

Oh, boy, there is a seriously wicked review thrashing “The Inhumans” on NPR.

Hoo boy.

What is it?
Marvel’s Inhumans, premiering tonight at 8 ET on ABC.

What’s it about?
… Uh.

… Hello? Something wrong?
No. Oh you mean, wrong with this show? Then yes. Hoo boy. Lots of stuff. Yep.

npr.org

Can’t say about the show but the review is a hoot and well worth reading.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:48:04am

So I guess tax cheat and violent thug Ryan Grimm is going to try to get his old seat back. Seems outlandish, but given the political environment where violence is rewarded, I’d say he has a decent shot.

silive.com

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:49:07am

re: #126 Barefoot Grin

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If “repeal and replace” had passed, soon 30 million more Americans wouldn’t be able to get an MRI, ever.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:50:17am

re: #147 sagehen

For me, the crucial difference was that Tim Curry’s Pennywise was a creepy, wisecracking clown.

Bill Skarsgård’s Pennywise was a……thing…disguising itself as a clown.

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sagehen  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:55:35am

Mayor of San Juan is stunned and outraged that the acting secretary of DHS says this is a “good news story.” Says no, absolutely not, this is a people are dying story.

San Juan Mayor EXPLODES at Homeland Security Sec. over Puerto Rico ‘Good News Story’ Relief

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ObserverArt  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:57:58am

re: #144 JordanRules

Speech seemed pretty extemporaneous to me. Purposeful omission would definitely not be good though.

I was hoping that would be the case. Maybe he thought he covered that with diverse background. But I admit I am a little suspicious from all the other stuff I’ve seen about the Air Force Academy.

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plansbandc  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:58:48am

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹

I can fully get behind NewMexit.

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sagehen  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:06:10am

The White House is bragging that they’ve passed out 2 million liters of water and a million meals.

(after a week. for an island with 3.5 million people.)

Also, the USN hospital ship Comfort is “on its way to Puerto Rico.” After a week. It’ll get there any day now. And Congress will take up the question of aid to PR next week, or maybe the week after.

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sagehen  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:12:08am

re: #155 plansbandc

I can fully get behind NewMexit.

Pretty sure FALN is going to get themselves up and running again after this fiasco. If they were a country, other Spanish-speaking countries would be able to help without needing Trump’s approval.

(reminder: decades before Islamic terrorism was any kind of issue, Puerto Rican terrorism was a hugely big deal. The bombing, the hijackings, that time they brought automatic weapons into the gallery of the capitol and shot up Congress. The time they tried to assassinate President Truman, and one of his bodyguards died from throwing himself on top of him to take the bullets.)

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William Lewis  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:13:26am

OT:

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:14:54am

The Daily Beast is still treating the “sonic attack” as a real thing as of an hour ago.
thedailybeast.com

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:15:26am

re: #158 William Lewis

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William Lewis  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:20:20am

re: #160 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:21:46am

re: #92 Birth Control Works

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:22:48am

re: #162 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Hey Milo, Dim Jim, and Lucas. This is how much Trump “cares” about your rights as gay men. Great job, you guys were the real cucks.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:23:50am

So I’m seeing that both The Guardian and The Telegraph are giving Blade Runner 2049 five-star reviews. Rolling Stone gave it 4.5 out of 5, calling it an “instant classic”.

Shut up and take my money. I just bought my ticket.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:24:28am

re: #111 The Vicious Babushka

Assange is still spewing a firehose of Kremlin bullshit from his hiding place in the Ecuadorian embassy.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:25:49am

re: #165 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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They’re obsessed with her but somehow she’s not relevant at all.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:26:51am

I think what kills Trumpers and Bros alike about Hillary is despite her supposedly being “unpopular”, she still got more votes than either of their guy. Lotta jealously towards Hillary and I get it, it must be crushing for one’s fragile masculinity to know that a woman was much better qualified for the job than them.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:28:14am

re: #164 Dr Lizardo

So I’m seeing that both The Guardian and The Telegraph are giving Blade Runner 2049 five-star reviews. Rolling Stone gave it 4.5 out of 5, calling it an “instant classic”.

Shut up and take my money. I just bought my ticket.

The trailers look amazing. I just wonder if Ford has a death-scene in his contract again.

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mmmirele  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:28:22am

I don’t know if we discussed this story earlier:

washingtonpost.com

Basically, the EEOC will be representing Kaetoya Williams in a discrimination lawsuit. Ms. Williams was offered a job at the “Georgia Blue” restaurant chain. However, she was fired from the job when she did not wear blue jeans to work, per the employee dress code. Ms. Williams is an Apostolic Christian and they believe women should wear skirts. Ms Williams offered to wear a blue jean skirt, but that wasn’t good enough for Georgia Blue. The EEOC says that Georgia Blue engaged in impermissible religious discrimination by not allowing a reasonable accommodation that would allow Ms. Williams to wear blue jean skirts to work.

I actually have zero problem with this. Barring some other argument* why blue jean skirts would be unacceptable, I think this is a reasonable accommodation. What surprised me is the reaction from so-called Christians (I picked this up on the Facebook page of a Christian personality). In their minds, this woman was not a true Christian because she believes in wearing skirts. And because she’s not a true Christian, she can’t possibly have a religious discrimination complaint. Here’s the discussion from FB:

As I said in my response, the EEOC doesn’t care about deciding the truth of religious doctrine. All it cares about is that the woman has a religious belief and the employer should provide a reasonable accommodation. Apparently this is a mystery to these people.

* In law school we were taught to look for those arguments.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:32:16am

re: #169 mmmirele

I don’t know if we discussed this story earlier:

washingtonpost.com

Basically, the EEOC will be representing Kaetoya Williams in a discrimination lawsuit. Ms. Williams was offered a job at the “Georgia Blue” restaurant chain. However, she was fired from the job when she did not wear blue jeans to work, per the employee dress code. Ms. Williams is an Apostolic Christian and they believe women should wear skirts. Ms Williams offered to wear a blue jean skirt, but that wasn’t good enough for Georgia Blue. The EEOC says that Georgia Blue engaged in impermissible religious discrimination by not allowing a reasonable accommodation that would allow Ms. Williams to wear blue jean skirts to work.

I actually have zero problem with this. Barring some other argument* why blue jean skirts would be unacceptable, I think this is a reasonable accommodation. What surprised me is the reaction from so-called Christians (I picked this up on the Facebook page of a Christian personality). In their minds, this woman was not a true Christian because she believes in wearing skirts. And because she’s not a true Christian, she can’t possibly have a religious discrimination complaint. Here’s the discussion from FB:

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As I said in my response, the EEOC doesn’t care about deciding the truth of religious doctrine. All it cares about is that the woman has a religious belief and the employer should provide a reasonable accommodation. Apparently this is a mystery to these people.

* In law school we were taught to look for those arguments.

Funny how biblical literalism doesn’t apply to things like going on Facebook.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:34:20am

re: #168 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The trailers look amazing. I just wonder if Ford has a death-scene in his contract again.

Don’t know, but I do know that IGN had very high praise for Ford’s performance, saying:

As for Deckard, and Harrison Ford for that matter, it takes a while to get to him, but the infamous mystery surrounding the character and the events of the 1982 film are the mountain that 2049 builds upon. And when Ford finally does show up, it is well worth the wait. This is not phoned-in Ford or my-agent-told-me-I-should-do-this Ford. No, this is Ford the legend, who brings a quiet, sort of gut-wrenching interpretation to Deckard and what he must’ve gone through in the past three decades.

They give it a 9.7/10 and said “…is a sequel that never should have happened, but it’s defied all odds to become one of the best ever.”

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I cannot.  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:34:42am

Comic Book Comedy from the Alt-Wrong

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William Lewis  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:44:13am

re: #164 Dr Lizardo

So I’m seeing that both The Guardian and The Telegraph are giving Blade Runner 2049 five-star reviews. Rolling Stone gave it 4.5 out of 5, calling it an “instant classic”.

Shut up and take my money. I just bought my ticket.

Oh, my, I am so glad to hear of these reviews. I’ve hoped against hope that it would be worth it. Now it appears that it will be.

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ObserverArt  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:46:54am

re: #169 mmmirele

I don’t know if we discussed this story earlier:

washingtonpost.com

Basically, the EEOC will be representing Kaetoya Williams in a discrimination lawsuit. Ms. Williams was offered a job at the “Georgia Blue” restaurant chain. However, she was fired from the job when she did not wear blue jeans to work, per the employee dress code. Ms. Williams is an Apostolic Christian and they believe women should wear skirts. Ms Williams offered to wear a blue jean skirt, but that wasn’t good enough for Georgia Blue. The EEOC says that Georgia Blue engaged in impermissible religious discrimination by not allowing a reasonable accommodation that would allow Ms. Williams to wear blue jean skirts to work.

I actually have zero problem with this. Barring some other argument* why blue jean skirts would be unacceptable, I think this is a reasonable accommodation. What surprised me is the reaction from so-called Christians (I picked this up on the Facebook page of a Christian personality). In their minds, this woman was not a true Christian because she believes in wearing skirts. And because she’s not a true Christian, she can’t possibly have a religious discrimination complaint. Here’s the discussion from FB:

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As I said in my response, the EEOC doesn’t care about deciding the truth of religious doctrine. All it cares about is that the woman has a religious belief and the employer should provide a reasonable accommodation. Apparently this is a mystery to these people.

* In law school we were taught to look for those arguments.

So, in that one comment, the person makes a comment about she should have known the job dress code before applying and the company should not have to allow her to wear a jean skirt because someone else will come along and want another change for “religious clothing.”

Whut? Jean Skirts, or skirts in general are religious clothing now???

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:47:02am

re: #173 William Lewis

Oh, my, I am so glad to hear of these reviews. I’ve hoped against hope that it would be worth it. Now it appears that it will be.

From what I’m reading in various reviews, it’s pretty much universal critical acclaim.

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:48:53am

re: #174 ObserverArt

In my neck of the woods, jean skirts generally meant Pentecostal/Assembly of God.

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:49:30am

re: #175 Dr Lizardo

From what I’m reading in various reviews, it’s pretty much universal critical acclaim.

I’m seeing “Better than the original” being thrown around, and they’re talking about the fifth iteration of the original.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:49:54am

re: #176 Belafon

In my neck of the woods, jean skirts generally meant Pentecostal/Assembly of God.

Thinking back on it, you’re not wrong.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:56:12am

re: #177 Belafon

I’m seeing “Better than the original” being thrown around, and they’re talking about the fifth iteration of the original.

I’ve noticed that too. Of course, such judgements are purely subjective, but if it is indeed better than it’s predecessor, then Denis Villenueve and the rest of the crew and cast has achieved something that only a tiny handful of films have ever accomplished - being recognized as superior to the originals.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:57:44am

I clicked when he came to the stage, cannot listen.

He just said this again?

He’s so stupid

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:59:33am

re: #180 Stanley Sea

I clicked when he came to the stage, cannot listen.

He just said this again?

He’s so stupid

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When does he tell us that sharks live in the water and sharks are scary?

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:59:59am

re: #180 Stanley Sea

sonicdrivein.com

Ocean Water(r)

Despite its name, it tastes nothing like the ocean. Which is probably a good thing. But it is blue, with a tangy flavor and a hint of coconut.

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:00:36am

re: #180 Stanley Sea

I clicked when he came to the stage, cannot listen.

He just said this again?

He’s so stupid

So is Japan. Yet, we responded.

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KGxvi  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:00:57am

re: #180 Stanley Sea

I clicked when he came to the stage, cannot listen.

He just said this again?

He’s so stupid

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The best words. The. Best. Words.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:01:16am

re: #180 Stanley Sea

I clicked when he came to the stage, cannot listen.

He just said this again?

He’s so stupid

Well, look, many, many people do not know this.

/

And he’s bragging about the economy he inherited, again, of course.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:01:20am

re: #183 Belafon

So is Japan. Yet, we responded.

And Japan is much further away too. This fucking asshole.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:01:25am

Damn, he’s on to the Soros/Obama/Clinton’s evil plan.
To damage the NFL brand by triggering RWNJs. Thus giving them no other option but to boycott NFL games and merchandise

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:01:55am

I’m so sick of this ignoramus. Man and I thought Bush was dumb but Trump takes the prize.

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:02:30am

re: #187 FormerDirtDart

Damn, he’s on to the Soros/Obama/Clinton’s evil plan.
To damage the NFL brand by triggering RWNJs. Thus giving them no other option but to boycott NFL games and merchandise

“So, don’t give in. Keep watching the NFL. Watch those players protest and don’t think about why they’re doing it.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:02:30am

re: #187 FormerDirtDart

Damn, he’s on to the Soros/Obama/Clinton’s evil plan.
To damage the NFL brand by triggering RWNJs. Thus giving them no other option but to boycott NFL games and merchandise

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Someone’s still salty about not being allowed to become an owner because he’s a shitty person.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:02:58am

re: #187 FormerDirtDart

Damn, he’s on to the Soros/Obama/Clinton’s evil plan.
To damage the NFL brand by triggering RWNJs. Thus giving them no other option but to boycott NFL games and merchandise

So the players in the NFL who make money through the NFL are trying to damage the NFL. OK.

//

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KGxvi  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:03:03am

re: #190 HappyWarrior

Someone’s still salty about not being allowed to become an owner because he’s a shitty person.

Trump or Limbaugh? Or both?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:03:21am

Maybe if Rush thought about what it was like to be someone other than the disgusting pig he is, he’d understand why they’re protesting but nah that’s too much to ask of the greatest satirist since Oscar Wilde!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:03:35am

re: #192 KGxvi

Trump or Limbaugh? Or both?

Ha touche.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:03:39am

re: #187 FormerDirtDart

Damn, he’s on to the Soros/Obama/Clinton’s evil plan.
To damage the NFL brand by triggering RWNJs. Thus giving them no other option but to boycott NFL games and merchandise

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Yes, we shall use the awesome power of the right-wing boycott machine to destroy free enterprise and usher in a golden age of SOCIALISM!!!!!1!111!one

…Wait. Have ANY right-wing boycotts worked?

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:03:48am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:03:49am

re: #191 Sir John Barron

So the players in the NFL who make money through the NFL are trying to damage the NFL. OK.

//

No one accused Rush of being a great thinker.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:04:07am

re: #197 HappyWarrior

No one accused Rush of being a great thinker.

Or a thinker at all.

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JordanRules  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:04:29am

re: #180 Stanley Sea

WTF
Hawaii might want to consider working really closely with Cali on some contingency planning.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:04:31am

re: #198 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Or a thinker at all.

The man is a cyst.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:05:14am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:07:16am

re: #201 FormerDirtDart

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Seriously. How fucking dumb is he?

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KGxvi  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:07:22am

re: #187 FormerDirtDart

Damn, he’s on to the Soros/Obama/Clinton’s evil plan.
To damage the NFL brand by triggering RWNJs. Thus giving them no other option but to boycott NFL games and merchandise

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My favorite part is when he says the leftists are using the protests to attack the rugged individualism present in football. There is literally no other sport in the world that requires teamwork and cooperation more than gridiron football. The entire culture of the sport is designed to subsume the individual in favor of the team.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:07:24am

re: #153 sagehen

Mayor of San Juan is stunned and outraged that the acting secretary of DHS says this is a “good news story.” Says no, absolutely not, this is a people are dying story.

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This falls under #MoronsAreGoverningAmerica. We have a bullshit-based federal government now, patting themselves on the back for failing.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:09:00am

re: #203 KGxvi

My favorite part is when he says the leftists are using the protests to attack the rugged individualism present in football. There is literally no other sport in the world that requires teamwork and cooperation more than gridiron football. The entire culture of the sport is designed to subsume the individual in favor of the team.

Indeed. The O-Line, QB, backs, receivers, and tight ends. You need all of them to work in sync on offense just as you need the D-Line, linebackers, and secondary to work on defense. Rush is a fucking idiot.

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KGxvi  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:09:29am

re: #201 FormerDirtDart

“Every department… from Homeland Security to Defense…”

Someone should ask him to name another department.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:11:12am

re: #206 KGxvi

“Every department… from Homeland Security to Defense…”

Someone should ask him to name another department.

Defense! Homeland! Attorney General! By the way Sessions should totally not have recused himself from Russia. Totally. Loser. Hurts me very much. Russia hoax.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:12:11am

jeebus

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Sir John Barron  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:12:24am

re: #203 KGxvi

My favorite part is when he says the leftists are using the protests to attack the rugged individualism present in football. There is literally no other sport in the world that requires teamwork and cooperation more than gridiron football. The entire culture of the sport is designed to subsume the individual in favor of the team.

As is the national anthem and the angry fans are bitching that individual players won’t submit to the Good of the Whole. But, OK, Rusty.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:12:28am

re: #195 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yes, we shall use the awesome power of the right-wing boycott machine to destroy free enterprise and usher in a golden age of SOCIALISM!!!!!1!111!one

…Wait. Have ANY right-wing boycotts worked?

I doubt it. It’s not exactly a punishment when assholes go away.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:13:01am

re: #209 Sir John Barron

As is the national anthem and the angry fans are bitching that individual players won’t submit to the Good of the Whole. But, OK, Rusty.

Heh good point.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:13:34am

re: #187 FormerDirtDart

Damn, he’s on to the Soros/Obama/Clinton’s evil plan.
To damage the NFL brand by triggering RWNJs. Thus giving them no other option but to boycott NFL games and merchandise

Rush Limbaugh says anthem protests are a leftist plot to “damage” NFL

And tell me: who has the bigger grudge against the NFL, the lefties or Donald Trump?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:14:01am

re: #210 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I doubt it. It’s not exactly a punishment when assholes go away.

I think there was one last year sometime where the right-wing squeaky wheel made enough noise, but other than that, pretty much every high-profile right-wing boycott has pretty much ended with a whimper. They go on about it, then it just dies quietly and you never hear about it again.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:15:13am
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Ace-o-aces  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:15:18am

re: #172 I cannot.

Comic Book Comedy from the Alt-Wrong

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Oh god, I almost want this to happen just to see how bad it will be.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:15:34am

re: #213 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I think there was one last year sometime where the right-wing squeaky wheel made enough noise, but other than that, pretty much every high-profile right-wing boycott has pretty much ended with a whimper. They go on about it, then it just dies quietly and you never hear about it again.

The J.C. Penney boycott went over swimmingly. As did the Starbucks one. These guys don’t know how to boycott. I see their screeds all over NFL stories and I just have ot laugh because they’re giving the NFL more revenue with their posts.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:17:24am

re: #216 HappyWarrior

The J.C. Penney boycott went over swimmingly. As did the Starbucks one. These guys don’t know how to boycott. I see their screeds all over NFL stories and I just have ot laugh because they’re giving the NFL more revenue with their posts.

If we could weaponize stupidity, we wouldn’t, because then these dipshits would have unlimited power.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:17:54am

re: #201 FormerDirtDart

I do think some context is in order

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:19:16am

Good fucking lord, the humanitarian crisis is ongoing and our fearless leader is discussing aloud how he expects the victims to pay for the help.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:20:18am

re: #210 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I doubt it. It’s not exactly a punishment when assholes go away.

Behold as I BURN my favorite football shirt here! That’ll fix em.!

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KGxvi  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:21:09am

It should come as no surprise, but ESPN commissioned a poll about the anthem protests. Top line numbers:

Strongly Approve: 24
Somewhat Approve: 15
Somewhat Disapprove: 13
Strongly Disapprove: 38

When you break those numbers out by race:

Whites: 17/14/14/48
Blacks: 54/18/7/9

Also of note, 53% believe Kaepernick would still be in the NFL if not for his protests.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:21:59am

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

“The era of economic surrender is over,” Trump tells manufacturers, saying “surrender” is the word that described previous administrations.

— Daniel Dale

More mindless drivel from our psusy grabber in chief.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:22:30am

re: #188 HappyWarrior

I’m so sick of this ignoramus. Man and I thought Bush was dumb but Trump takes the prize.

Bush may have been ‘dumb’ but the yam has misfiring neurons.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:22:56am

re: #219 Targetpractice

Good fucking lord, the humanitarian crisis is ongoing and our fearless leader is discussing aloud how he expects the victims to pay for the help.

Maybe it’s time for a GoFundMe to relocate them all to our red states to turn them blue.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:23:42am

re: #221 KGxvi

It should come as no surprise, but ESPN commissioned a poll about the anthem protests. Top line numbers:

Strongly Approve: 24
Somewhat Approve: 15
Somewhat Disapprove: 13
Strongly Disapprove: 38

When you break those numbers out by race:

Whites: 17/14/14/48
Blacks: 54/18/7/9

Also of note, 53% believe Kaepernick would still be in the NFL if not for his protests.

But it’s not about race. //

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TedStriker  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:24:33am

re: #221 KGxvi

It should come as no surprise, but ESPN commissioned a poll about the anthem protests. Top line numbers:

Strongly Approve: 24
Somewhat Approve: 15
Somewhat Disapprove: 13
Strongly Disapprove: 38

When you break those numbers out by race:

Whites: 17/14/14/48
Blacks: 54/18/7/9

Also of note, 53% believe Kaepernick would still be in the NFL if not for his protests.

Basically, white people: “Stand up and shut up!”

SMDH…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:24:44am

re: #171 Dr Lizardo

Don’t know, but I do know that IGN had very high praise for Ford’s performance, saying:

They give it a 9.7/10 and said “…is a sequel that never should have happened, but it’s defied all odds to become one of the best ever.”

I feel all tingly with anticipation.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:25:09am

re: #164 Dr Lizardo

So I’m seeing that both The Guardian and The Telegraph are giving Blade Runner 2049 five-star reviews. Rolling Stone gave it 4.5 out of 5, calling it an “instant classic”.

Shut up and take my money. I just bought my ticket.

Good to hear. You never want iconic films to be followed up by Godfather III, or, god forbid, The Phantom Menace.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:26:18am

I saw that Dr. Seuss is trending. Apparently a librarian for an elementary school in Cambridge, MA declined to accept a gift from Melania Trump saying that they already have 9,000 volumes, there are schools that are more in need, and Seuss is a bit “cliche” and contains “racist images.”

It was a dumb thing to do and dumber to say, but apparently now everybody on the left thinks Dr. Seuss is racist (he did, in fact, produce some anti-Japanese propaganda, IIRC, during the war). I hate to paint with a broad brush, but a lot of conservative twitter users aren’t well acquainted with critical thinking.

This will be on Tucker Carlson for three weeks and the librarian will lose her job. [prediction]

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JordanRules  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:27:09am

re: #224 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The Mercers and their ilk would not hesitate to do this if the situation were reversed. They all would have been at a think tank retreat last week putting it together.

Of course the situation wouldnt be reversed, for many reasons we’re all familiar with.

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:29:22am

re: #229 Barefoot Grin

He also did some anti-American Nazi stuff as well.

I do think the librarian is wrong. She probably thinks Harry Potter is too basic for children.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:32:27am

re: #229 Barefoot Grin

I saw that Dr. Seuss is trending. Apparently a librarian for an elementary school in Cambridge, MA declined to accept a gift from Melania Trump saying that they already have 9,000 volumes, there are schools that are more in need, and Seuss is a bit “cliche” and contains “racist images.”

It was a dumb thing to do and dumber to say, but apparently now everybody on the left thinks Dr. Seuss is racist (he did, in fact, produce some anti-Japanese propaganda, IIRC, during the war). I hate to paint with a broad brush, but a lot of conservative twitter users aren’t well acquainted with critical thinking.

This will be on Tucker Carlson for three weeks and the librarian will lose her job. [prediction]

He did.

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ObserverArt  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:32:55am

Can I vent?

Is it Friday the 13th…or a full moon? I go to log-in to my email and it says my account is closed because of too many login attempts. One try. I was in earlier too. And it is not like it is a new password. I know it by heart.

They said it must have been some kind of glitch on their part. Oh really.

And then I get into my email after dealing with ATT.

Do people read anymore, or just glance and assume?

I wrote an very detailed email to a printer and spelled out what I need and am looking for, etc.

They then sent me an email asking all of the questions that are covered in the email I sent?

I get the feeling the person in charge of responding never saw my email, they were just told this customer (#) is interested in Every Door Direct Mail postcards, so they ask all of the basic questions I covered.

Arrrrgh! It may be one of those days.

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JordanRules  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:33:29am

re: #229 Barefoot Grin

The librarian cited this piece and I think it’s worth a read and a better discussion than folks are currently having.

slj.com

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:36:40am

The Seuss issue is complicated. As I recall reading, he apologized for the past anti-Japanese cartoons. As for them being cliche, I have to disagree, I think they spark interest in reading and have some good lessons for kids but the librarian’s criticisms aren’t without reason and facts either.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:38:21am

re: #226 TedStriker

Basically, white people: “Stand up and shut up!”

SMDH…

Also, Freedom, Liberty, Don’t Tread on Me, etc.

/

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Amory Blaine  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:39:26am

The ocean is big, and has a lot of water.

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dangerman  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:40:03am

re: #219 Targetpractice

Good fucking lord, the humanitarian crisis is ongoing and our fearless leader is discussing aloud how he expects the victims to pay for the help.

“it’s a supply and demand opportunity”

// .5s

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:40:46am

re: #237 Amory Blaine

The ocean is big, and has a lot of water.

Maybe the British can use that as an excuse: “Don’t come over here. There’s lots of water. And we’re an island.”

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ObserverArt  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:42:30am

re: #201 FormerDirtDart

NBC News ✔@NBCNews
President Trump on Puerto Rico relief efforts: “This is an island. Surrounded by water. Big water. Ocean water.”
11:48 AM - Sep 29, 2017
932 932 Replies 560 560 Retweets 708 708 likes

My gawd he is getting worse. He can’t even read simple words off a ‘pompter.

Please someone take the office away from this man, he is a National and World embarrassment.

With the morning and day I seem to be having, that made me want to go hide in a dark corner of the basement and scream ‘tell me when the bad man is gone so I can come out!”

I guess I gotta laugh…for cryin’

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:42:48am

re: #202 HappyWarrior

Seriously. How fucking dumb is he?

No where near as dumb as his supporters. We have a crisis in Puerto Rico but he’s tweeting nonsense and clearly is not engaged at all. Who cares about the NFL when Americans are dying because of our incompetent management in the face of catastrophe? And on FB, his supporters repeat that the “governor of Puerto Rico is very complimentary of US federal response but MSM isn’t reporting that”. (minor paraphrase of real quote). If Trump were a decent person, as soon as Maria hit, he would have focused on that and little else for now. But he only cares about his wealth and praise from supporters.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:43:28am

re: #229 Barefoot Grin

I saw that Dr. Seuss is trending. Apparently a librarian for an elementary school in Cambridge, MA declined to accept a gift from Melania Trump saying that they already have 9,000 volumes, there are schools that are more in need, and Seuss is a bit “cliche” and contains “racist images.”

It was a dumb thing to do and dumber to say, but apparently now everybody on the left thinks Dr. Seuss is racist (he did, in fact, produce some anti-Japanese propaganda, IIRC, during the war). I hate to paint with a broad brush, but a lot of conservative twitter users aren’t well acquainted with critical thinking.

This will be on Tucker Carlson for three weeks and the librarian will lose her job. [prediction]

He did make some very horrible racist ads for “Flit” in the 1930’s.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:45:43am
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:45:46am

re: #234 JordanRules

The librarian cited this piece and I think it’s worth a read and a better discussion than folks are currently having.

slj.com

Thanks. That was very informative. It won’t help protect the librarian from wingnut scorn, but it makes perfect sense, and she is in step with broader trends away from Seuss.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:46:46am

re: #241 Hecuba’s daughter

No where near as dumb as his supporters. We have a crisis in Puerto Rico but he’s tweeting nonsense and clearly is not engaged at all. Who cares about the NFL when Americans are dying because of our incompetent management in the face of catastrophe? And on FB, his supporters repeat that the “governor of Puerto Rico is very complimentary of US federal response but MSM isn’t reporting that”. (minor paraphrase of real quote). If Trump were a decent person, as soon as Maria hit, he would have focused on that and little else for now. But he only cares about his wealth and praise from supporters.

True, his supporters are the dumbest of all.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:47:12am

re: #244 Barefoot Grin

Thanks. That was very informative. It won’t help protect the librarian from wingnut scorn, but it makes perfect sense, and she is in step with broader trends away from Seuss.

You know what kids books I really can’t stand? The Berenstain Bears.

I HATE, HATE, HATE THEM.

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dangerman  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:48:03am

re: #233 ObserverArt

Can I vent?

Arrrrgh! It may be one of those days.

no, it’s the people on the other end.

im going through it threefold right now

and since they have the power to fix whatever it is im after, i cant write “the document you are asking me to scan and send is attached to the first email i sent this morning”

or to add
“which was also included in the fax we sent last year”
“and was referred to in the cover letter we mailed….”

i just keep giving them what they ask for each time and let them finally figure it out as if it was their idea

if necessary i’ve always got the timestamped paper trail

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:48:16am

re: #229 Barefoot Grin

I saw that Dr. Seuss is trending. Apparently a librarian for an elementary school in Cambridge, MA declined to accept a gift from Melania Trump saying that they already have 9,000 volumes, there are schools that are more in need, and Seuss is a bit “cliche” and contains “racist images.”

It was a dumb thing to do and dumber to say, but apparently now everybody on the left thinks Dr. Seuss is racist (he did, in fact, produce some anti-Japanese propaganda, IIRC, during the war). I hate to paint with a broad brush, but a lot of conservative twitter users aren’t well acquainted with critical thinking.

This will be on Tucker Carlson for three weeks and the librarian will lose her job. [prediction]

She should have just stuck with the we are a rich district, give to ones in need & left it at that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:48:31am

re: #219 Targetpractice

Good fucking lord, the humanitarian crisis is ongoing and our fearless leader is discussing aloud how he expects the victims to pay for the help.

Exactly: solve the humanitarian crisis and then we can start talking about long-term debt relief solutions…but DT is obviously using PR’s pre-hurricane problems as an excuse for his bungled response.

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dangerman  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:49:15am

re: #237 Amory Blaine

The ocean is big, and has a lot of water.

yeah but most of it is below the surface….

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:50:19am

re: #246 The Vicious Babushka

You know what kids books I really can’t stand? The Berenstain Bears.

I HATE, HATE, HATE THEM.

The Berenst(E)ain Bears Conspiracy Theory That Has Convinced the Internet There Are Parallel Universes

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:51:02am

re: #246 The Vicious Babushka

You know what kids books I really can’t stand? The Berenstain Bears.

I HATE, HATE, HATE THEM.

Yes. We were given one and we only read it once. So dumb.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:51:25am

re: #233 ObserverArt

Can I vent?

Is it Friday the 13th…or a full moon. I go to log-in to my email and it says my account is closed because of too many login attempts. One try. I was in earlier too. And it is not like it is a new password. I know it by heart.

They said it must have been some kind of glitch on their part. Oh really.

And then I get into my email after dealing with ATT.

Do people read anymore, or just glance and assume?

I wrote an very detailed email to a printer and spelled out what I need and am looking for, etc.

They then sent me an email asking all of the questions that are covered in the email I sent?

I get the feeling the person in charge of responding never saw my email, they were just told this customer (#) is interested in Every Door Direct Mail postcards, so they ask all of the basic questions I covered.

Arrrrgh! It may be one of those days.

I’ll share my latest email shit. I got a thank you for coming to our Sunday service email from a church in OKLAHOMA. Then another email inviting me to their potluck or something. ?

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JordanRules  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:51:49am

re: #244 Barefoot Grin

Thanks for checking it out! And you’re right, the monster has been let loose already. This will now follow the pattern we’re all used to with the wingers and their shallow outrage.

I don’t expect shit from the wingers. I’m just hoping thoughtful people like folks here can have better conversations around it.

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electrotek  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:52:39am

What I want to know is where is that Trump supporting anti-Muslim bigot Miss Puerto Rico Destiny Velez in all this?

In hiding perhaps?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:53:35am

re: #233 ObserverArt

Can I vent?

Is it Friday the 13th…or a full moon? I go to log-in to my email and it says my account is closed because of too many login attempts. One try. I was in earlier too. And it is not like it is a new password. I know it by heart.

That means someone else tried to log into your account repeatedly, and was locked out like they should be.

Maybe someone with a similar email address messed up, or maybe someone is trying to access your account. Set up 2-factor authentication if you can and haven’t yet.

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freetoken  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:53:56am

I’m still confused over these “sonic” attacks in Cuba.

Things are happening too quickly these days.

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KGxvi  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:53:59am

re: #169 mmmirele

Always fun when they raise the “that’s old testament law replaced by Jesus!” Ok, so, the stuff about gays, that’s old testament… And then it becomes “whoa, whoa, whoa, let’s not get crazy.” And then they of course cite Paul’s letters to the Romans (or which ever it is), while ignoring that Paul wasn’t an actual Apostle who would know what Jesus actual said.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:55:03am

re: #258 KGxvi

Always fun when they raise the “that’s old testament law replaced by Jesus!” Ok, so, the stuff about gays, that’s old testament… And then it becomes “whoa, whoa, whoa, let’s not get crazy.” And then they of course cite Paul’s letters to the Romans (or which ever it is), while ignoring that Paul wasn’t an actual Apostle who would know what Jesus actual said.

They’re as pick and choose about Christianity as the liberal Christians they hate.

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dangerman  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:57:48am

re: #241 Hecuba’s daughter

…If Trump were a decent person, as soon as Maria hit, he would have focused on that and little else for now. But he only cares about his wealth and praise from supporters.

soberly and from a distance of time and space, posterity and presidential history are going to be mercilessly unkind to him

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:58:48am

So here’s a small world. Brennan Gilmore, the man who tweeted his grandfather kneeling used to be Tom Perriello’s Chief of Staff. Checking out his Twitter. He looks like a neat guy. Former State department and a musician as well. Maybe he should consider a run for office. We need more compassionate and empathetic people like hi.

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freetoken  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:59:30am

It’s just weird.

News stories, like on CNN, seem to be written by folk with no knowledge of physics or anatomy.

I can tell you this: high frequency sound will not travel far in air, or even in liquids. The energy disperses too quickly.

Low frequency sounds are possible to use as weapons, but that is detectable easy enough with sensors.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:59:36am

re: #134 darthstar

Mornin’ Lizards…

“Draw me like one of your French girls.”

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Dragonomics  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:00:39am

One truth remains, in all realities, whether Berenstain or Stein, those bears are sour garbage water.

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TedStriker  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:00:41am

re: #134 darthstar

Mornin’ Lizards…

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“Hello, ladies…look at me, then look at your man, then look at me.”

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dangerman  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:01:39am

re: #258 KGxvi

Always fun when they raise the “that’s old testament law replaced by Jesus!” Ok, so, the stuff about gays, that’s old testament… And then it becomes “whoa, whoa, whoa, let’s not get crazy.” And then they of course cite Paul’s letters to the Romans (or which ever it is), while ignoring that Paul wasn’t an actual Apostle who would know what Jesus actual said.

the english old testament, right?

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freetoken  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:01:53am

And frankly, the State department under Exxon is not to be trusted. Even if they are not intentionally deceiving us, the understaffing and hostility towards expertise will doom our ability to get at the truth.

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EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:04:07am

re: #260 dangerman

soberly and from a distance of time and space, posterity and presidential history are going to be mercilessly unkind to him

Real history will also be most unkind to the racist, supply-side cargo cult the Republican Party has been ever since the civil rights realignment.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:04:54am

re: #268 EPR-radar

Real history will also be most unkind to the racist, supply-side cargo cult the Republican Party has been ever since the civil rights realignment.

I’m hoping as new historians come along. We can also look more critically at Reagan’s role. To me, Reagan was worse than Nixon in many ways.

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JordanRules  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:04:59am
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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:05:20am

re: #267 freetoken

And frankly, the State department under Exxon is not to be trusted. Even if they are not intentionally deceiving us, the understaffing and hostility towards expertise will doom our ability to get at the truth.

I read somewhere that we determined that Cuba wasn’t behind the mystery.

The yam is just doing his vengeance thing.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:06:52am

re: #270 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

Maybe you should learn the actual story of why Colin kneeled. He actually talked to a Green Beret. How many vets have you actually talked to Tomi?

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Amory Blaine  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:11:23am

Prosecutors concede insanity plea for Morgan Geyser in Slender Man stabbing case

Prosecutors in the Slender Man stabbing have reached a plea agreement that will avoid a trial for the second girl charged in the case.

Morgan Geyser, 15, was scheduled to go before a jury next month, but will instead plead guilty as charged but not be held criminally liable, and instead remain at the state mental hospital where she has been getting treatment for about 18 months.

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allegro  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:13:21am

Once upon a time, not long ago (though it feels like ages), I would go to bed and wake up in the morning with my house in the same condition I left it the night before. That was BC (Before Cats).

This morning I walked into the living room to see curtains down, the trash basket overturned, dish towels on the floor and one on the sofa, and a chicken bone on the bathroom counter. These guys:

I gots the debil behind me
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:13:53am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:14:18am

re: #270 JordanRules

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:15:57am

re: #274 allegro

Once upon a time, not long ago (though it feels like ages), I would go to bed and wake up in the morning with my house in the same condition I left it the night before. That was BC (Before Cats).

This morning I walked into the living room to see curtains down, the trash basket overturned, dish towels on the floor and one on the sofa, and a chicken bone on the bathroom counter. These guys:

[Embedded content]

Those don’t look like house cats, the ears are too tall. Did you bring sand-cats into your home? That would explain the trashing.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:17:25am

re: #270 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

“Support the troops!” cry the fuckers who, at any given moment, are quietly praying for the death or disability of John McCain so they can replace him with a “reliable” wingnut.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:18:08am

re: #274 allegro

Once upon a time, not long ago (though it feels like ages), I would go to bed and wake up in the morning with my house in the same condition I left it the night before. That was BC (Before Cats).

This morning I walked into the living room to see curtains down, the trash basket overturned, dish towels on the floor and one on the sofa, and a chicken bone on the bathroom counter. These guys:

[Embedded content]

OMG they are so cute.

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makeitstop  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:21:22am

re: #279 Stanley Sea

OMG they are so cute.

They are.

[Runs off to pet cats…]

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:21:58am

re: #243 FormerDirtDart

Dangerous chemical linked to birth defects may have washed downriver from Houston-area Superfund site, EPA says

All of that stuff (Dioxin at 2,300x level that triggers a cleanup) is washing into the bay east of Houston, and south past Galveston.

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darthstar  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:22:24am

So…anyone else see Will & Grace last night or has that topic been exhausted.

It was pretty much as I remembered it. Though I have to say they may have tried a little too hard to fit every catchphrase from Twitter into a short scene…woke, resist, maga, etc…maybe the writers just wanted to get all that crap out of the way so they could try and rebuild the characters.

It’ll be interesting to see if the show gets its old audience back. My wife loved the show a decade ago and was excited to see it return, but I could see her starting to doze off by the third commercial break and she was out like a light by the final scene.

Maybe you can’t reinvent edgy.

On a related note, Debra Messing wasn’t too happy about going on Megyn’s show.
usatoday.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:22:24am

One of the first things my kids asked after reading the execrable “Berenste(a)in Bears” is “Why does the bear family call each other Mother, Father, Brother & Sister but all their friends have people names?”

All I could say was “Bears don’t have people names.”

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ObserverArt  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:22:31am

re: #256 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That means someone else tried to log into your account repeatedly, and was locked out like they should be.

Maybe someone with a similar email address messed up, or maybe someone is trying to access your account. Set up 2-factor authentication if you can and haven’t yet.

No, it’s ATT. I just got stuck in a loop with therm. I got a message my session had expired please log in again. Now I keep getting repeating messages that from time to time I will be asked to login again as a security measure. That one I never saw before. So, just out of frustration I went back to my att. net landing page and saw I was still logged in there, clicked on the email folder and my email page opened without any logging in.

I called ATT and asked them what the hell is going on? The tech said he saw they were having a lot of email issues this morning.

HELLO!!!

Maybe it is sun spots.

Maybe it is Trump.

Maybe ATT sucks!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:23:55am

re: #284 ObserverArt

att.net has been a mess for awhile, sadly. The transition away from Yahoo was not well handled.

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allegro  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:24:22am

re: #279 Stanley Sea

OMG they are so cute.

Fortunately for them, cute works. Real well. It was the chicken bone on the bathroom counter that cracked me up and saved their kitteh butts.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:25:37am

re: #286 allegro

That’s why I like having an outdoor cat. He still causes mischief but at least the messes aren’t IN the house.

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William Lewis  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:26:34am

re: #273 Amory Blaine

Thank God those horrific bastards are doing what is right, however reluctantly.

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ObserverArt  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:29:12am

re: #274 allegro

Once upon a time, not long ago (though it feels like ages), I would go to bed and wake up in the morning with my house in the same condition I left it the night before. That was BC (Before Cats).

This morning I walked into the living room to see curtains down, the trash basket overturned, dish towels on the floor and one on the sofa, and a chicken bone on the bathroom counter. These guys:

[Embedded content]

Someone had a party. Were there empty bottles, cigarette butts and roaches in the ash trays…kitty’s wearing lampshades?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:30:03am

re: #270 JordanRules

How about these whiny football players go to a local VFW and ask true heroes what that flag, service and sacrifice mean?

— Tomi Lahren

So patriotism should be coerced?

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Renaissance_Man  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:31:06am

re: #195 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yes, we shall use the awesome power of the right-wing boycott machine to destroy free enterprise and usher in a golden age of SOCIALISM!!!!!1!111!one

…Wait. Have ANY right-wing boycotts worked?

It’s arguable that the constant fear of right wing boycotts is ingrained into America’s culture.

America’s culture is a thing - a huge creation that stamps around the world and affects the rest of the world probably more than America’s military or economy. It’s a Culture, not a culture. And this Culture is the collective creation of the American media and American marketing, forces so powerful and pervasive that this Culture now defines American politics and world affairs, not the other way around. This Culture seeks to reinforce and repeat a dominant paradigm at all times - a paradigm where white people find food while black people loot, where white criminals are honour students and lone wolves, where beautiful white women and strong white men on your television tell you soothing things about your worldview and scary things about the Others, and we can always look forward to the next sanitised holiday, a white Christmas or Thanksgiving or Fourth of July. Yes, there’s a place for some diversity in this Culture, such as a few good-looking black people on television to counterpoint the dominant race, and there’s a black culture too, one that belongs to Those People, and where we can look into it like through a window, where we can like their music and their clothes but where we can stay safe from all the crimes that Those People commit, and since They have Their culture and all, why do they have to be so noisy about their so-called problems, and Those other Hispanic People have their culture too that we can look at from the safety of our Culture, and I suppose those Asians have a culture too, but it looks weird and doesn’t play well on TV. FOX is the most blatant about this, but this maintenance of the Culture paradigm is the fault of all American media.

I used to wonder why the other networks and media outlets so slavishly followed FOX, trying to compete for the same gullible cultist demographic. Now I know - because FOX is only refining the American Culture to its most pure, distilled form, a shot of 100 proof Culture so thick it’s poisonous. Running counter to that would be to literally go against everything that is American, and even if it might be successful, to do so would be unthinkable. It would be like suddenly deciding to broadcast in Swahili - CNN, the NYT, and the rest have defined American Culture for so long that they and it are inseparable now. When a more pure, more toxic Culture product comes along, they can’t try to redefine it and throw out decades of work, the only choice is to double down. When a purer version of crack hits the street, you can’t sell people on Crack Classic - you have to sell the same thing and make it about branding. And so we keep hearing about economic anxiety, and trying to understand Trumpers, and emails, and kneeling, and anything that won’t require white Americans to take a hard look in a mirror, because even if we think right wing boycotts don’t work, the fear of ostracising themselves from America’s Culture keeps all forms of media and government firmly toeing the line.

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allegro  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:31:57am

re: #289 ObserverArt

Someone had a party. Were there empty bottles, cigarette butts and roaches in the ash trays…kitty’s wearing lampshades?

Well yeah, some of that. But that wasn’t the kitties. Heh.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:32:07am

re: #270 JordanRules

If you look up ‘White Privilege’ in a dictionary, Tomi’s picture comes up.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:32:25am

re: #289 ObserverArt

Check their social media for pics!
/

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Sir John Barron  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:34:37am

re: #270 JordanRules

Regrettably, service, sacrifice, bravery in the country’s armed forces has not been sufficient to establish that person’s Civil Rights. See, African American Veterans, World War I, World War II.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:35:34am

re: #73 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Back in the 21st century, former Lubbock county Democratic chair
Todd Klein continues trying to ingratiate himself with yokel conservatives.

[Embedded content]

I love the “you have this freedom but fuck you for using it” comments.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:35:41am

re: #293 Sir John Barron

If you look up ‘White Privilege’ in a dictionary, Tomi’s picture comes up.

She also appears under “fraud.”

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JordanRules  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:37:15am

re: #282 darthstar

I really enjoyed it and laughed out loud a lot.

Karen on the Oval couch like KellyAnne killed me.

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mmmirele  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:37:28am

re: #273 Amory Blaine

Prosecutors concede insanity plea for Morgan Geyser in Slender Man stabbing case

It looks like this young woman has early onset schizophrenia, from the report. *ouch*

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:37:43am

Graphic Design For The People!

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:38:39am

re: #270 JordanRules

And when most of them say “They have the right to kneel,” she’ll go looking for some other venue.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:39:56am

re: #295 Sir John Barron

Regrettably, service in the country’s armed forces has not been sufficient to establish that person’s Civil Rights. See, African American World War II Veterans.

Yep and if Tomi actually read history, she’d know that.

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KGxvi  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:42:12am

re: #290 Sir John Barron

I hadn’t really thought about it until recently, but the right’s attempt to conflate the flag with the troop with the country and the supposed ideals (“supposed” in the sense that they believe specific ideals apply), is really disturbing. I’ve had this conversation with my Republican family members and they don’t see the disconnect in “they fought and died for your rights” as part of an argument that amounts to you can’t exercise those rights here.

Deep down, though they won’t admit it, I think a lot of this has to do with what the protests were originally about. Republicans (read: white people; but I repeat myself) don’t want to face the underlying issue of police brutality and the stark differences in how they and people of color experience this American life.

I saw a clip on twitter (can’t find it now, and forget if someone here posted it) from someone at the NFL network that pointed out had Kaepernick announced he was kneeling because of how our veterans are treated when they come back, the reaction would be entirely different. I fully believe that.

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:44:06am

re: #302 HappyWarrior

Yep and if Tomi actually read history, she’d know that.

She’d just wonder why that was a bad thing.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:44:54am

re: #281 jaunte

All of that stuff (Dioxin at 2,300x level that triggers a cleanup) is washing into the bay east of Houston, and south past Galveston.

They pull a lot of shrimp out of those waters, don’t they?

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allegro  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:45:12am

re: #303 KGxvi

I saw a clip on twitter (can’t find it now, and forget if someone here posted it) from someone at the NFL network that pointed out had Kaepernick announced he was kneeling because of how our veterans are treated when they come back, the reaction would be entirely different. I fully believe that.

I don’t. He was still KWB (Kneeling While Black). And protesting. Doesn’t matter what. Those People don’t get to do that.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:46:37am

re: #304 Belafon

She’d just wonder why that was a bad thing.

Or claim it was liberals.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:49:24am

re: #301 Belafon

And when most of them say “They have the right to kneel,” she’ll go looking for some other venue.

Or question the patriotism of those vets.

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:49:40am

Another reason Republicans hate educated people: dailykos.com. Betsy DeVos showed up at Harvard. The students held a quiet protest. One asked her this:

Student: So, You’re a billionaire with lots and lots of investments, and the so-called “school choice” movement is a way to open the floodgates for corporate interests to make money off the backs of students. How much do you expect your net worth to increase as a result of your policy choices and what are your friends on Wall Street and in the business world—like the Koch brothers—saying about the potential to get rich off the backs of students?

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KGxvi  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:49:47am

re: #282 darthstar

So…anyone else see Will & Grace last night or has that topic been exhausted.

It was pretty much as I remembered it. Though I have to say they may have tried a little too hard to fit every catchphrase from Twitter into a short scene…woke, resist, maga, etc…maybe the writers just wanted to get all that crap out of the way so they could try and rebuild the characters.

It’ll be interesting to see if the show gets its old audience back. My wife loved the show a decade ago and was excited to see it return, but I could see her starting to doze off by the third commercial break and she was out like a light by the final scene.

Maybe you can’t reinvent edgy.

On a related note, Debra Messing wasn’t too happy about going on Megyn’s show.
usatoday.com

I really wish the nostalgia trend would die a bit. That said, I’m curious how a show that in its original run was very much the old episodic standard sitcom format will survive in today’s world where serialization has taken over so much that even sitcoms have become serialized (see: The Good Place)

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:50:52am

re: #305 FormerDirtDart

They pull a lot of shrimp out of those waters, don’t they?

And redfish, speckled trout, oysters…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:51:24am

re: #308 Targetpractice

Or question the patriotism of those vets.

I still love how she pulled out the “My ancestors emigrated legally card” and she was exposed to be full of shit. I mean I doubt she knew obviously but that’s exactly why you shouldn’t cast aspersions on people.

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sagehen  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:52:05am

re: #258 KGxvi

Always fun when they raise the “that’s old testament law replaced by Jesus!” Ok, so, the stuff about gays, that’s old testament… And then it becomes “whoa, whoa, whoa, let’s not get crazy.” And then they of course cite Paul’s letters to the Romans (or which ever it is), while ignoring that Paul wasn’t an actual Apostle who would know what Jesus actual said.

also, Leviticus.

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:52:21am

re: #310 KGxvi

What do you mean by serialized?

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:52:26am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:53:40am

re: #315 jaunte

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But he’s not a racist. //

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:54:10am

Apparently enough idiots will continue giving Joe Arpaio money to investigate Obama’s birth certificate to make it a commercially viable scam.

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prairiefire  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:54:21am

re: #277 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

They are cute but they do have tall ears!

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prairiefire  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:55:32am

re: #311 jaunte

If the bugs don’t get us, the cancer will.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:56:03am

re: #317 jaunte

Apparently enough idiots will continue giving Joe Arpaio money to investigate Obama’s birth certificate to make it a commercially viable scam.

And then they’ll vote for hucksters like Trump claiming they’re “Economically anxious.”

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Sir John Barron  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:56:12am

re: #303 KGxvi

And as I mentioned yesterday, the reichwing argument conflating the anthem and the flag with “respect are Police and Veterans fought for Libertay” is itself a political argument that deserves challenging.

In other words, angry fans and media wingnuts are whining that the protesters are injecting politics into a supposedly non-political ritual, but the anti-protesters are in fact demonstrating the pre-existence of politics in the pre-game flag-waving liturgy.

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JordanRules  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:56:42am

re: #306 allegro

Right. Show me one where they weren’t outraged.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:58:19am

I’d like to know what these people who want us to respect our vets think of their ideological ancestors that lynched returning black veterans.

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Kragar  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:58:19am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:58:51am

re: #324 Kragar

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Bipartisanship. //

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:59:00am

re: #320 HappyWarrior

“Ah lost mah job and and couldn’t pay the rent, but I’m gonna hep Sheriff Joe get to the bottom of this.”

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Sir John Barron  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:59:21am

re: #323 HappyWarrior

I’d like to know what these people who want us to respect our vets think of their ideological ancestors that lynched returning black veterans.

Stop bringing up the past!

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:59:46am

re: #321 Sir John Barron

And as I mentioned yesterday, the reichwing argument conflating the anthem and the flag with “respect are Police and Veterans fought for Libertay” is itself a political argument that deserves challenging.

In other words, angry fans and media wingnuts are whining that the protesters are injecting politics into a supposedly non-political ritual, but the anti-protesters are in fact demonstrating the pre-existence of politics in the pre-game flag-waving liturgy.

The demonstrators are bringing attention to how much of a hollow gesture that the whole ceremony is, that the league does it not out of respect or patriotism, but because the Army paid them to do it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 10:59:52am

re: #327 Sir John Barron

Stop bringing up the past!

But the Confederate flag is my heritage! //

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Sir John Barron  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:00:30am

re: #324 Kragar

Remember when Obama rammed the healthcare bill down all are throateses with just Dem votes?

/

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ObserverArt  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:00:33am

re: #285 Eclectic Cyborg

att.net has been a mess for awhile, sadly. The transition away from Yahoo was not well handled.

Tell me about it. And Yahoo had their issues too.

Now I am on the phone dealing with the US Post Office.

And, I’m about to go postal!

This is not a good day. I’m about ready to say fuck it all. But I have clients that need my help. I swear I do not know how this country works anymore. It is all so messed up no one knows their jobs or who can help.

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JordanRules  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:00:35am

re: #315 jaunte

This is the laziest, most uncreative grift. Joe, your boy Don is going to erase his legacy and repaint the country with MAGA. Who the fuck cares if Hussein Obama was born here or not. There are a million other, fresher minority stories you can exploit.

Mediocre bastard.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:01:08am

re: #332 JordanRules

One-trick Sheriff.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:01:20am

re: #332 JordanRules

This is the laziest, most uncreative grift. Joe, your boy Don is going to erase his legacy and repaint the country with MAGA. Who the fuck cares if Hussein Obama was born here or not. There are a million other, fresher minority stories you can exploit.

Mediocre bastard.

Seriously how pathetic is Joe?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:01:39am

re: #333 jaunte

One-trick Sheriff.

Low energy!

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Sir John Barron  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:02:15am

re: #315 jaunte

Joe Arpaio is visiting California today. He told me he plans to continue investigating Obama’s birth certificate: — Casey Tolan

After trying to bury their participation in this ratfocking it looks like wingnut world has decided to go out and kick the tires on some old favorites and see who complains.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:02:51am

re: #335 HappyWarrior

It’s good that he’s building on Presnit Trump’s work. Now Sheriff Joe can finally interview Trump’s private eyes who went to Hawaii.

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KGxvi  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:03:12am

re: #314 Belafon

What do you mean by serialized?

Sitcoms have typically used the episodic formula, in part because of syndication. The basic idea is that each episode is more or less self contained, so you can basically watch any episode from any season at any time and you don’t really need the context of everything else happening. So you can watch basically any episode of I Love Lucy or Gilligan’s Island or Cheers or Seinfeld or Friends without much context because it doesn’t really matter beyond “oh is this the season that Ross and Rachel were together?”

Serialization has mostly been the format that dramas take, episode 1 builds into episode 2, which builds into 3 and so on. Basically, stories unfold over the course of a season (or more) rather than an episode.

But in recent years, especially with streaming services allowing viewers to binge watch shows, sitcoms have been able to develop more long term stories with actual character development.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:04:52am

re: #315 jaunte

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:05:03am

re: #324 Kragar

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GOP fails spectacularly to pass ACA repeal through reconciliation, chooses to move on to failing to pass “tax reform” through reconciliation.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:06:32am

re: #318 prairiefire

They are cute but they do have tall ears!

Part of their cuteness, I think. I’ve never seen a cat with ears that tall. Maybe they’re 1/4 or 1/8 of some kind of wild cat?

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:07:26am
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allegro  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:07:27am

re: #341 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Part of their cuteness, I think. I’ve never seen a cat with ears that tall. Maybe they’re 1/4 or 1/8 of some kind of wild cat?

They were 7 week old kittens when I took that pic. They are still growing into their ears.

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:08:45am

re: #338 KGxvi

I don’t see how Will & Grace is any different than Big Bang Theory is today? The relationship between the two main characters and others developed over the course of the show, even if few details carried over between episodes.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:11:45am

re: #342 FormerDirtDart

We’re going to need a bigger litter box.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:12:02am

re: #343 allegro

They were 7 week old kittens when I took that pic. They are still growing into their ears.

It’s been too long since I had kittens.

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sagehen  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:12:31am

re: #342 FormerDirtDart

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You’re not seriously suggesting cats are $10 each?

I don’t have to have been a cat owner to realize you’ve misplaced a decimal point.

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lawhawk  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:12:41am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

Trump’s tax plan continues to get panned by any and all tax experts. The only ones touting this nonsense are the Grover Norquist and GOPers who think that they can scam their way into destroying the government’s finances through mass redistribution of wealth to the rich and shifting all the burdens to everyone else.

We’ve seen numerous reports showing that people making $100,000 would get screwed by Trump’s plan - and that the rich absolutely make out like bandits no matter how everything else shakes out on the tax rate cuts and the passthrough entity rate cuts.

In fact, the bottom 35% of taxpayers would see no improvement, or worse, might actually pay higher taxes as a result of Trump’s toxic tax plan.

So, to recap, the only group of people who will clearly benefit from this are millionaires like Trump. Everyone else might see minimal tax improvements, or are completely fucked.

How do I conclude they’d be fucked?

Well, let’s assume this monstrosity passes and is enacted into law. The GOP is predicating their entire scheme on higher economic growth to paper over the massive debt they’ll be raising (and some have already admitted this would happen). The GOP would then use the massive debt as a trigger to force massive cuts in the safety net.

So, the entire burden of these tax cuts on to everyone but the rich, who will continue their profligate ways and fund a decreasing amount of government.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:12:56am

Nicknames for you-know-who from Larry Wilmore’s 9/11/17 podcast.
Nectarine Noriega
Papaya Papa Doc
Apricot Adolf
Mango Mussolini
Orange Julius Caeser
Pumpkin Putin
Kumquat Kaddafi
Tangerine Idi Amin
Mauve Mao Tse Tung

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KGxvi  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:13:31am

re: #344 Belafon

I don’t see how Will & Grace is any different than Big Bang Theory is today? The relationship between the two main characters and others developed over the course of the show, even if few details carried over between episodes.

Any show that has a sustained run has to have developments like that - like Ross and Rachel or Chandler and Monica on Friends. So big themes might develop but it’s wholly different from a long term story told over several episodes. So if you look at a show like The Good Place or Vice Principals or even The Ranch, you can’t really just jump into season 2 without having seen season 1.

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sagehen  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:14:29am

re: #349 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Nicknames for you-know-who from Larry Wilmore’s 9/11/17 podcast.
Nectarine Noriega
Papaya Papa Doc
Apricot Adolf
Mango Mussolini
Orange Julius Caeser
Pumpkin Putin
Kumquat Kaddafi
Tangerine Idi Amin
Mauve Mao Tse Tung

I’m partial to Rick Wilson’s preferred “Cheeto Jesus”.

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:17:16am

re: #350 KGxvi

Any show that has a sustained run has to have developments like that - like Ross and Rachel or Chandler and Monica on Friends. So big themes might develop but it’s wholly different from a long term story told over several episodes. So if you look at a show like The Good Place or Vice Principals or even The Ranch, you can’t really just jump into season 2 without having seen season 1.

OK. But back to your original point, I think Big Bang Theory fits into the episodic mold enough that it shows that not only can they survive, they can do well.

Where I see Will & Grace failing is that they were unique and groundbreaking. Now, we have a show that has the patriarch in his second marriage to a Latino, with a gay son who’s married and has an adopted daughter. I’m not sure how they overcome being normal.

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CongoJack  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:18:59am

Question:
If the Rs get this horrible tax plan through - when does it get applied? Fiscal year 2018-19? They cant affect taxes that are going to be file in April 2018 can they?

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:20:39am

re: #324 Kragar

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Hope it works out as well for them as “repeal and replace” did.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:22:19am

I prefer Fuckface Von Clownstick. The classics.

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lawhawk  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:23:19am

Where are the pointed questions for Trump and his cronies re: Puerto Rico?

How many troops have been sent to help clear roads, open ports, and transport basic materials around the island?
How many generators have been sent?
How many hospitals have full power?
How many are without power or running with generator backups?
How many supermarkets have power?
How many gas stations have power?
How many customers are still without power?
How many people are without potable water?
How many water purification systems have been deployed (volume and total number)?

These are basic facts that need to be assessed. We’re more than a week out and Trump’s excuse is that Puerto Rico is an island.

The US did far more and far more quickly in responding to the SE Asian tsunami in Indonesia, the quake/tsunami in Japan, and the Haiti earthquake than Trump’s done thus far.

At every step of the way, Trump has reinforced his delusional worldview and his advisers are saying he’s doing great. Reality is that he’s done gone and fucked up and lives are at risk and he simply doesn’t care enough to send the best.

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electrotek  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:23:26am

I like Pumpkin Pinochet the most.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:23:57am
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Kragar  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:25:12am

re: #354 Big Beautiful Door

Hope it works out as well for them as “repeal and replace” did.

Unfortunately most GOP actually believe that tax cuts are magical.

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EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:25:57am

re: #355 Amory Blaine

I prefer Fuckface Von Clownstick. The classics.

The British/Scottish touch:

Witless fucking cocksplat

Incompressible jizztrumpet

Weaselheaded fucknugget

Leather faced, shit-tobogganist

Cock juggling thundercunt

Cheeto-faced, ferret wearing shitgibbon

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:27:43am

re: #353 CongoJack

Question:
If the Rs get this horrible tax plan through - when does it get applied? Fiscal year 2018-19? They cant affect taxes that are going to be file in April 2018 can they?

Yes they can.

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KGxvi  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:28:32am

re: #352 Belafon

OK. But back to your original point, I think Big Bang Theory fits into the episodic mold enough that it shows that not only can they survive, they can do well.

Where I see Will & Grace failing is that they were unique and groundbreaking. Now, we have a show that has the patriarch in his second marriage to a Latino, with a gay son who’s married and has an adopted daughter. I’m not sure how they overcome being normal.

I think episodic shows can still do well, to be sure, but my sense is that there is going to be a move away from that format. Ultimately, with any show, it comes down to good story telling and good acting.

As for your point about Will & Grace, that’s a whole different issue. Part of it is the nostalgia thing I mentioned before: I want it to go away, I was there for the first run, don’t need to check back in. In the case of this show, the world has changed quite a lot in the time they’ve been gone so what made them interesting the first time around makes them more or less normal this time. That’s going to be tough for the writers.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:29:35am

re: #353 CongoJack

Question:
If the Rs get this horrible tax plan through - when does it get applied? Fiscal year 2018-19? They cant affect taxes that are going to be file in April 2018 can they?

The smart thing to do would be to phase them in so as not to hit voters with sticker shock next April. But they’re not smart, so don’t be surprised if any tax “reform” is set to take effect as quickly as possible.

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MsJ  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:30:59am

re: #355 Amory Blaine

I prefer Fuckface Von Clownstick. The classics.

Hubby has started calling him “president goatse”. I think that’s quite apropos.

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Kragar  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:31:55am
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Birth Control Works  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:32:17am

Problems With Odor Identification Linked to Increased Dementia Risk

I’m so screwed.

I’ve never had a good sense of smell —bad allergies all my life.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:32:27am

I’m partial to Comrade Combover, but sometimes bust out El Jefe Naranjo.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:32:33am

re: #364 MsJ

Hubby has started calling him “president goatse”. I think that’s quite apropos.

With his weird mouth, that’s really appropriate, but also horrifying.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:33:35am

re: #365 Kragar

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GOP has decided to just drop any pretense of being anything but a pack of vipers.

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EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:35:00am

re: #369 Targetpractice

GOP has decided to just drop any pretense of being anything but a pack of vipers.

At their current rate of ‘progress’, US Republicans will become as evil as Weimar-era Nazis in a few months.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:35:59am

re: #346 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It’s been too long since I had kittens.

I want a cat. It’s been 2 years since we lost ours.

Kid wants a cat. Told him that when he graduates, and starts work, he can get a cat and be responsible for all the $$ bills. and the litter box.

He’ll probably do it, as he is at heart, a cat person.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:36:23am
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Birth Control Works  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:37:23am

re: #274 allegro

two kittens are so much better than one.

Every day and adventure!

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:38:18am

re: #345 Amory Blaine

We’re going to need a bigger litter box.

Riverside Park is just sitting there

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:38:32am

re: #371 Birth Control Works

I want a cat. It’s been 2 years since we lost ours.

Kid wants a cat. Told him that when he graduates, and starts work, he can get a cat and be responsible for all the $$ bills. and the litter box.

He’ll probably do it, as he is at heart, a cat person.

Get one or three!
My cat was picked on a lot by my other cats when she was smaller, and she’s really happy as a solo cat now, so I feel like I can’t bring any new cats into the house.

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lawhawk  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:39:10am

re: #353 CongoJack

Question:
If the Rs get this horrible tax plan through - when does it get applied? Fiscal year 2018-19? They cant affect taxes that are going to be file in April 2018 can they?

They can have it apply to the 2017 tax year, or they can start it with the 2018 tax years. It all depends on how fucked up they want things to get, because they’ll give the IRS and all state tax authorities no time to address the changes before the return due dates in March/April 2018.

All the tax prep groups/firms would need to get the changes done too. They typically spend 4Q of each year readying the software for tax season, but they’d scramble to do the changes.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:40:48am

re: #347 sagehen

You’re not seriously suggesting cats are $10 each?

I don’t have to have been a cat owner to realize you’ve misplaced a decimal point.

Bulk rate, and since NYC is a sanctuary city you can underpay the herders…
//

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:41:32am

re: #371 Birth Control Works

I want a cat. It’s been 2 years since we lost ours.

Kid wants a cat. Told him that when he graduates, and starts work, he can get a cat and be responsible for all the $$ bills. and the litter box.

He’ll probably do it, as he is at heart, a cat person.

I have a rock dove on my balcony. And it’s not leaving.

I’ll take a photo tomorrow morning if it’s still there. It has a band on its right leg, I saw that earlier. It’s been there for about five hours now.

Weird.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:42:04am

re: #349 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Nicknames for you-know-who from Larry Wilmore’s 9/11/17 podcast.
Nectarine Noriega
Papaya Papa Doc
Apricot Adolf
Mango Mussolini
Orange Julius Caeser
Pumpkin Putin
Kumquat Kaddafi
Tangerine Idi Amin
Mauve Mao Tse Tung

Cheeto Pendejo
Garbage Dump Trump
Don the Con
Cheeto Benito
Pussgrab in Cahoots

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allegro  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:43:24am

re: #378 Dr Lizardo

I have a rock dove on my balcony. And it’s not leaving.

I’ll take a photo tomorrow morning if it’s still there. It has a band on its right leg, I saw that earlier. It’s been there for about five hours now.

Weird.

Is there a message attached to him? Maybe he’s just waiting for you to “answer the phone”.

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lawhawk  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:44:23am

re: #379 The Vicious Babushka

Tangerine Toddler
Taint stain Terror.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:44:50am

re: #375 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Get one or three!
My cat was picked on a lot by my other cats when she was smaller, and she’s really happy as a solo cat now, so I feel like I can’t bring any new cats into the house.

We are at our limit of pets for the homeowners assoc. One more and we are still legal as far as the village is concerned, but not the homeowners assoc. A cat that doesn’t go outside won’t draw attention.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:44:53am

re: #379 The Vicious Babushka

Cheeto Pendejo
Garbage Dump Trump
Don the Con
Cheeto Benito
Pussgrab in Cahoots

I like your last one.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:45:23am

re: #380 allegro

Is there a message attached to him? Maybe he’s just waiting for you to “answer the phone”.

LOL. It’s quite tame; they’re usually skittish, but this one seems to be used to being around people.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:48:21am

Who cares if they burn the flag?

It’s an old form of protest —very 1960’s.

really doesn’t rank high on my list of improprieties.

The flag is a THING—just like a religious book.

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plansbandc  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:51:04am

re: #383 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Yep. Just used it. It will be my go to for awhile.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 29, 2017 • 11:56:28am

re: #359 Kragar

Unfortunately most GOP actually believe that tax cuts are magical.

That is true. But the GOP leadership has yet again produced a hideously unpopular plan to give massive tax cuts to the rich by raising taxes on the middle class, and there will be a handful of vulnerable GOP Senators in purple and blue states who will have a problem with that.

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darthstar  Sep 29, 2017 • 1:22:28pm

re: #298 JordanRules

I really enjoyed it and laughed out loud a lot.

Karen on the Oval couch like KellyAnne killed me.

That was funny. I laughed at that more than any of the other gags.


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