Report: Trump Played Golf and Ignored the Puerto Rico Disaster Until He Saw Pictures on TV

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As the horrifying extent of the disaster in Puerto Rico emerged, Donald Trump basically checked out and went on a four-day golfing vacation: Lost weekend: How Trump’s time at his golf club hurt the response to Maria.

As Hurricane Maria made landfall that Wednesday, there was a frenzy of activity publicly and privately. The next day, President Trump called local officials on the island, issued an emergency declaration and pledged that all federal resources would be directed to help.

But then for four days after that — as storm-ravaged Puerto Rico struggled for food and water amid the darkness of power outages — Trump and his top aides effectively went dark themselves.

Trump jetted to New Jersey that Thursday night to spend a long weekend at his private golf club there, save for a quick trip to Alabama for a political rally. Neither Trump nor any of his senior White House aides said a word publicly about the unfolding crisis.

Trump did hold a meeting at his golf club that Friday with half a dozen Cabinet officials — including Acting Homeland Security Secretary Elaine Duke, who oversees disaster response — but the gathering was held to discuss his new refugee travel ban, not the hurricane. Duke and Trump spoke briefly about Puerto Rico, but did not talk again until Tuesday, an administration official said.

When did he finally start to deal with this monumental disaster? When he saw the damage on TV.

Even though local officials had said publicly as early as Thursday that the island was “destroyed,” the sense of urgency didn’t begin to penetrate the White House until Monday, when images of the utter destruction and desperation — and criticism of the administration’s response —began to appear on television, one senior administration official said.

And tonight, as the mayor of San Juan pleads for help…

Trump is jetting off for another golfing vacation, at government expense, while people die in Puerto Rico.

The Bush response to Katrina was awful. This is much worse.

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196 comments

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gwangung  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:07:01pm

Meh. His fans will insist, to their last dying breaths, “Trump’s doing all that he can. What more do you want him to do?”

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TedStriker  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:07:29pm

My reply from upstairs:

At least with W’s crew, you could chalk it up to incompetence; here, however, you can add in carelessness, outright neglect, and, perhaps, given what Trump has said about Hispanics in general, some degree of malice.

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lawhawk  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:07:52pm

Reupping from the last thread since I was all but CL’d:

re: #342 Charles Johnson

This Washington Post story is the real bombshell tonight. Incredibly damning.

A Friday night news dump.

On a day where Price getting resigned would be the big news.

Trump simply couldn’t be bothered with the impending hurricane and the threat it posed. He was too concerned with his 9 iron to give a shit about millions of American citizens in harms’ way to get things mobilized so that the US could respond quickly. Even after waiting 4 days, he still wasn’t mobilizing the full power of the military and other agencies to get aid to Puerto Rico.

You’re right - this is a whole different level of failure from Katrina. This was a willing and knowing failure.

Trump and his cronies can’t claim they didn’t know. Everyone from NOAA to NHC to the local fucking weather reporters were warning of dire consequences.

Trump golfed the weekend away.

The same fucking Trump who said he wouldn’t have time to golf like Obama spent the weekend Maria hit Puerto Rico golfing and ignoring the duties and obligations of the President of the United States.

He violated his oath.

He failed Puerto Rico. He failed America.

The GOP will continue to enable this sick man all so they can further their own craven agenda.

The GOP is thoroughly debased and has sided with evil.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:09:48pm

The most incompetent administration in the history of our country, and after Bush 43, that is saying something.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:11:10pm

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:11:30pm

re: #5 Targetpractice

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Two words: Jared Kushner.

/I’ll show myself out

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mmmirele  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:12:53pm

There’s also this story from the WaPo about the VA chief taking a business/tourist trip to Europe with his wife on our nickel.

washingtonpost.com

On another note, I swear, I should probably memorize this because I’ve had to repeat it so many times over the last week to idiots. It’s Justice Jackson from West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624, 642 (1943), which struck down rules requiring students to participate in patriotic activities.

If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion, or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein. If there are any circumstances which permit an exception, they do not now occur to us.

I hope the kids in Bossier Parish kneel during the anthem tonight.

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Interesting Times  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:14:08pm

re: #2 TedStriker

At least with W’s crew, you could chalk it up to incompetence; here, however, you can add in carelessness, outright neglect, and, perhaps, given what Trump has said about Hispanics in general, some degree of malice.

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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:14:18pm
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JordanRules  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:15:12pm

re: #8 Interesting Times

That was a really good article!

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:17:02pm

re: #7 mmmirele

There’s also this story from the WaPo about the VA chief taking a business/tourist trip to Europe with his wife on our nickel.

washingtonpost.com

On another note, I swear, I should probably memorize this because I’ve had to repeat it so many times over the last week to idiots. It’s Justice Jackson from West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624, 642 (1943), which struck down rules requiring students to participate in patriotic activities.

I hope the kids in Bossier Parish kneel during the anthem tonight.

And today the Orange Messiah was saying you “have” to stand for the anthem. No, we don’t, asshole.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:18:11pm

re: #7 mmmirele

There’s also this story from the WaPo about the VA chief taking a business/tourist trip to Europe with his wife on our nickel.

washingtonpost.com

On another note, I swear, I should probably memorize this because I’ve had to repeat it so many times over the last week to idiots. It’s Justice Jackson from West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624, 642 (1943), which struck down rules requiring students to participate in patriotic activities.

I hope the kids in Bossier Parish kneel during the anthem tonight.

Oh yeah, Friday night football.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:21:47pm

Ya know, he’s writhing right now hearing the negative news.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:21:48pm

Wingnuts talked up a storm about how Obama went on vacation during the flooding in Louisiana, but there’s a vast difference for one important reason: THERE WAS A FEDERAL RESPONSE! Federal assistance was there, working in concert with local and state services to help the state out. FEMA was providing food, water, and care where it could and providing temporary housing where it was needed.

Here, we have our own press talking aloud about how they can’t find any signs that the Feds are doing anything to help the people of the island. The pumpkin-skinned bastard waited vital days to waive the Jones Act because his buddies in the shipping industry lobbied against it, the White House’s aid request has taken a back seat to the “tax reform” giveaway, and it took 3 days between the announcement of the USNS Comfort having orders cut to provide aid and it actually departing TODAY!

Nixon was a piker compared to this treasonous asswipe!

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EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:22:31pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

tr*mp is a stone cold racist. Everyone who defends him now, or voted for him in an election, is also a stone cold racist. None of this is a surprise, and there are no excuses.

The GOP would have us believe that the only racists are the freaks that have to say n***** all the time in public. Not saying that word is easy and proves nothing, although their insistence on this point does reveal their resentment at being forced to curb their vocabulary outside their safe spaces like lily-white country clubs.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:23:48pm

re: #15 EPR-radar

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:24:52pm

Gen Honore on CNN.

He’s gonna blow it all up.

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meteor  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:27:35pm
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JordanRules  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:28:01pm

re: #17 Stanley Sea

He’s being pretty deferential and umm careful.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:28:22pm

re: #16 Stanley Sea

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Ah right, that’s another thing I’ve forgotten: As people are dying from lack of food, potable water, and medical care, our fearless leader talks about how it’s all been delayed because they need to negotiate how PR will repay it all. But that’s not surprising when you remember that Trump is a man who punished his eldest brother’s family for contesting his father’s will by yanking healthcare for his grandnephew’s cancer.

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fern01  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:28:57pm

so I just posted twice on a dead thread - sigh

Dear dog - the ahole went to play golf while the people of Puerto Rico are dying through lack of assistance. As the mayor says - “this is a small island 100miles x 30 miles and the greatest nation on earth cannot work out the logistics to sort out this disaster”

Any bets on whether the pretender in chief will cancel his trip on Tuesday (or has that already been cancelled?)

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:29:47pm

re: #18 meteor

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God I love her.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:30:04pm

re: #19 JordanRules

He’s being pretty deferential and umm careful.

yup.

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TedStriker  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:30:17pm

re: #20 Targetpractice

Ah right, that’s another thing I’ve forgotten: As people are dying from lack of food, potable water, and medical care, our fearless leader talks about how it’s all been delayed because they need to negotiate how PR will repay it all. But that’s not surprising when you remember that Trump is a man who punished his eldest brother’s family for contesting his father’s will by yanking healthcare for his grandnephew’s cancer.

Not cancer, cerebral palsy caused at birth IIRC

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:30:25pm

re: #21 fern01

so I just posted twice on a dead thread - sigh

Dear dog - the ahole went to play golf while the people of Puerto Rico are dying through lack of assistance. As the mayor says - “this is a small island 100miles x 30 miles and the greatest nation on earth cannot work out the logistics to sort out this disaster”

Any bets on whether the pretender in chief will cancel his trip on Tuesday (or has that already been cancelled?)

He’ll go down there to mug for the cameras at a carefully controlled spot, perhaps even provide a few actors so he can boast about the “crowd” that came to see him, and then jet back to the White House to “oversee the response.”

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:30:30pm

From the previous thread:

re: #358 Targetpractice

Well, let’s be realistic, in 1960 putting a man on the Moon in a decade was pretty much an impossible task. We’d barely mastered putting men into Earth orbit reliably and that was only through converting ICBMs into launch platforms for manned missions. If JFK had not set the deadline of 1969, it’s doubtful we’d have made it to the Moon as soon as we did.

So, we were able to do it, we just need to have our expectations set high. Often, the failure of humanity is to not shoot high enough.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:30:41pm

re: #24 TedStriker

Not cancer, cerebral palsy caused at birth IIRC

Ah, true, my mistake.

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Interesting Times  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:33:15pm

re: #10 JordanRules

That was a really good article!

She hit the nail on the head so many times that I just couldn’t choose which part to excerpt. This guy did, however, and I’d say he chose well:

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:33:28pm

re: #25 Targetpractice

He’ll go down there to mug for the cameras at a carefully controlled spot, perhaps even provide a few actors so he can boast about the “crowd” that came to see him, and then jet back to the White House to “oversee the response.”

And to get thankful crowds at disaster zones.

Seriously, it is this simple

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:34:28pm

How the fuck is it we can put country erasing air power and sea power near Korea faster than we can land food water and doctors in PR? Each is an act of national will or lack thereof. Puerto Rico is right next door by comparison.

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EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:34:41pm

re: #20 Targetpractice

Ah right, that’s another thing I’ve forgotten: As people are dying from lack of food, potable water, and medical care, our fearless leader talks about how it’s all been delayed because they need to negotiate how PR will repay it all. But that’s not surprising when you remember that Trump is a man who punished his eldest brother’s family for contesting his father’s will by yanking healthcare for his grandnephew’s cancer.

The best take I’ve seen on tr*mp’s reaction to the Puerto Rico situation is that his deepest instinct is to approach it as an exercise in applied disaster capitalism. Here he’s making an already difficult situation much worse by fucking up the Federal response. The way disasters almost always work out in real life is that a lot of ordinary people suffer or die, and a few fat cats make out like bandits.

If he manages to set off a cholera epidemic there, he’ll probably try to buy the whole island for a few thousand dollars.

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fern01  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:34:53pm

re: #25 Targetpractice

He’ll go down there to mug for the cameras at a carefully controlled spot, perhaps even provide a few actors so he can boast about the “crowd” that came to see him, and then jet back to the White House to “oversee the response.”

Is there nothing this ahole can do that will cause the GOP in congress to say enough is enough.

Just listening to the mayor on Rachel - Fema is asking people to register for help via the internet. THERE IS NO POWER, THERE IS NO INTERNET.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:35:11pm

I hope the mayor of San Juan kicks him in the balls tuesday.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:36:08pm

re: #29 Stanley Sea

And to get thankful crowds at disaster zones.

Seriously, it is this simple

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The man never wanted the job, he was running for the face time and probably would have plowed his increased celebrity into a new contract for The Apprentice. But like Tailgunner Ted who stumbled into being a Senator due to the Wingnut Wave, Trump ended up in the White House when the smart money said it couldn’t happen. So now he’s abusing the fuck out of the office and trying to avoid anything that might hurt his image before he leaves in 3 years.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:36:47pm

re: #32 fern01

Is there nothing this ahole can do that will cause the GOP in congress to say enough is enough.

Just listening to the mayor on Rachel - Fema is asking people to register for help via the internet. THERE IS NO POWER, THERE IS NO INTERNET.

The problem is, the Republicans are the ultimate in “party over country”. There will be die-hards in Congress who will literally cling to him until he dies (or they do). It’s so absurd and sickening; no one should ever be so married to one’s political ideology that they can’t look around and see the fucking destruction their policies have wrought.

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lawhawk  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:36:48pm

re: #31 EPR-radar

And you know how Trump will respond to this?

The same way GOP responded to Ebola. Trump is likely to make it more difficult to get aid in and evacuate people out. It’s almost predictable how Trump will respond when there’s a crisis.

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EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:37:30pm

re: #33 GlutenFreeJesus

I hope the mayor of San Juan kicks him in the balls tuesday.

Surely someone in Puerto Rico can loan her a spiked mace for this important civic occasion. tr*mp really does need to be hit so hard in the nuts he coughs up his own pubic hairs for days.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:39:37pm

re: #32 fern01

Is there nothing this ahole can do that will cause the GOP in congress to say enough is enough.

Just listening to the mayor on Rachel - Fema is asking people to register for help via the internet. THERE IS NO POWER, THERE IS NO INTERNET.

They want their tax cuts and he’s the surest way for them to achieve that. If that effort collapses in under its own weight in the next 3 months, there will start to be serious talk about removing him from office. Not because he’s a totally fucking monster, but because he’s hurting their chances for reelection next November.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:40:31pm
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Interesting Times  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:42:47pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

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bratwurst  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:45:12pm

re: #40 Interesting Times

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:45:28pm

re: #33 GlutenFreeJesus

re: #37 EPR-radar

Hmm. Spiked mace? I was thinking more on the lines of a rack. Do you think one of the older European countries might have one?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:46:05pm

re: #41 bratwurst

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Damn good question Senator.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:46:38pm

This whole thing makes me sick. Fuck Trump but fuck his base and enablers even more.

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TedStriker  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:48:30pm

re: #36 lawhawk

And you know how Trump will respond to this?

The same way GOP responded to Ebola. Trump is likely to make it more difficult to get aid in and evacuate people out. It’s almost predictable how Trump will respond when there’s a crisis.

Oh, I guarantee when the upcoming cholera epidemic gets good and cranked up, Trump won’t let anyone leave PR, saying they need to be quarantined for “public health”…because of an epidemic his inactions will help to cause.

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EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:49:05pm

re: #42 PhillyPretzel

Hmm. Spiked mace? I was thinking more on the lines of a rack. Do you think one of the older European countries might have one?

A rack is good, but it’s not really the right thing to hit a creep like tr*mp in the nuts with. Gotta choose the right tool for the job.

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TedStriker  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:50:10pm

re: #46 EPR-radar

A rack is good, but it’s not really the right thing to hit a creep like tr*mp in the nuts with. Gotta choose the right tool for the job.

How about an old-fashioned, all-American Louisville Slugger?

Works for me.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:50:33pm

re: #34 Targetpractice

The man never wanted the job, he was running for the face time and probably would have plowed his increased celebrity into a new contract for The Apprentice. But like Tailgunner Ted who stumbled into being a Senator due to the Wingnut Wave, Trump ended up in the White House when the smart money said it couldn’t happen. So now he’s abusing the fuck out of the office and trying to avoid anything that might hurt his image before he leaves in 3 years.

People behind him wanted it though (Bannon - Mercer - Cambridge Analytica) they KNEW he and his family were useful idiots.

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EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:50:51pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

This whole thing makes me sick. Fuck Trump but fuck his base and enablers even more.

Day after day, my opinion of tr*mp and Republicans manages to go lower, even though I always feel as if it’s already as rock bottom.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:52:55pm
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JordanRules  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:53:18pm

re: #49 EPR-radar

Me too and I’m trying to be very conscious of it and what that means to and for me. We all need to be careful with our selves. We are in a very fucked up and abusive situation with hourly assaults on our norms and values.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:53:39pm

re: #38 Targetpractice

They want their tax cuts and he’s the surest way for them to achieve that. If that effort collapses in under its own weight in the next 3 months, there will start to be serious talk about removing him from office. Not because he’s a totally fucking monster, but because he’s hurting their chances for reelection next November.

Tax cuts will be toast.

As lawhawk says, it’s vaporware

& the resistance is strong.

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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:56:53pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:57:30pm

re: #52 Stanley Sea

Tax cuts will be toast.

As lawhawk says, it’s vaporware

& the resistance is strong.

I can’t wait to see if the blue state GOP House members will really eat a bullet for a GOP ‘tax reform’ that will cost them their seats in Congress.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:58:17pm
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JordanRules  Sep 29, 2017 • 6:59:33pm

re: #53 teleskiguy

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:00:03pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

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Jesus fuck. Andrew Wakefield was discredited and his paper was retracted. But Trump is promoting this pile of shit? Damn it.

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:01:49pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

I wouldn’t believe Wakefield if he told me his name and provided a half dozen pieces of ID. So, I’m just going to assume he is lying.

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calochortus  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:03:37pm

re: #52 Stanley Sea

Tax cuts will be toast.

As lawhawk says, it’s vaporware

& the resistance is strong.

Liberals hate it, not-rich conservatives are looking at how it will affect them and hating it too.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:03:42pm

re: #58 A dark and stormy covfefe

I wouldn’t believe Wakefield if he told me his name and provided a half dozen pieces of ID. So, I’m just going to assume he is lying.

Trump is an anti-vaxer tho’ who talks to Alex Jones and other conspiracy theorists so it’s totally believable.

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Skip Intro  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:04:14pm

re: #57 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s always been my belief that Trump’s son is autistic and since Trump has perfect genes the only reason for it are vaccinations.

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calochortus  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:04:20pm

re: #54 EPR-radar

I can’t wait to see if the blue state GOP House members will really eat a bullet for a GOP ‘tax reform’ that will cost them their seats in Congress.

Of course they won’t.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:05:15pm

I wonder which will be more damaging to the uncouth one: Maria and the aftermath in PR or Mueller’s findings?

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stpaulbear  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:05:34pm

There was another WaPo story today that pissed me off more and more the further I got into it. It’s about senior boomers who are planning on working until they drop dead because they’re never going to be able to afford to retire. Of course, the people interviewed couldn’t vote for Hillary because…

…they concluded that the Democrat, Hillary Clinton, would be no help to them. So, for the first time in their lives, they cast protest votes, joining legions of disaffected voters whose aversion to Clinton helped propel Trump into the White House. Richard voted for Libertarian Gary Johnson. Jeannie left her presidential ballot blank.

“We are all talking about this, but not politicians. Helping people build a nest egg is not on their agenda,” Jeannie said. “We are the forgotten people.”

It’s like they have a case of “I didn’t get mine - fuck you”. I know I’m kind of biased in that I’ve been voting for democratic candidates since I could first vote in 1972, but it pissed the hell out of me that they couldn’t see who was most responsible for shafting them in the first place.They fucking tossed their votes into the shitter.

I’m incredibly lucky that I live in a state like MN where labor still has some political pull and that I’ve spent the last 18 years working in a place that provides a pension as well as the option to put pre-tax money into a retirement savings account. At present, I’m planning on retiring to a pretty frugal life in two years at 65, but since Trump got elected, I’m feeling like the ladder I’m about to reach the top of is turning into a stool that some assholes are going to kick out from under my feet (like 95% of everybody in this country), and I feel like I want to punch some of the people in this article.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:06:19pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:06:42pm

re: #60 goddamnedfrank

Trump is an anti-vaxer tho’ who talks to Alex Jones and other conspiracy theorists so it’s totally believable.

tr*mp and the Republicans are in the business of normalizing and exploiting willful stupidity. It’s to be expected that anti-vax woo will be included.

Everything that serves to chip away at Enlightenment ideals is politically useful for Republicans. tr*mp is too stupid to realize this is what’s happening, but Bannon surely gets it, as do the major players in the GOP donor class.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:07:15pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

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lawhawk  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:07:56pm

re: #54 EPR-radar

I can’t wait to see if the blue state GOP House members will really eat a bullet for a GOP ‘tax reform’ that will cost them their seats in Congress.

And there’s plenty of malware built into the GOP plans too, because the supposed tax cuts for all but the richest Americans would phase out over time. The Trump plan would make an already bad outcome for all but the rich even worse - as time goes on.

Yeah, you read that bit right too.

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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:08:13pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:09:08pm

re: #65 Charles Johnson

tr*mp will start some stupid war, because that’s what Republicans do when they are let off the leash, and then we’ll all reminisce about the good old days when tr*mp was ‘only’ fucking up responses to natural disasters.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:10:45pm

re: #53 teleskiguy

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Fuckers. Hopefully if the Steelers win the SB, they follow Golden State’s example.

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EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:10:51pm

re: #68 lawhawk

Hell is empty and all its Devils are in the Republican party.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:11:32pm

ya know, the yam could’ve just been incompetent with PR.

But NO, he had to solidify his disregard by going against the NFL and black people.

Documented forever.

Pitiful.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:11:55pm

Meanwhile, Trump is watching…

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retired cynic  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:12:34pm

re: #74 jaunte

Meanwhile, Trump is watching…

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Stupid, stupid, stupid.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:13:09pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:13:44pm

re: #74 jaunte

Meanwhile, Trump is watching…

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Glad Tucker is focused on important issues.

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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:16:20pm

re: #74 jaunte

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EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:19:01pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Glad Tucker is focused on important issues.

What’s ridiculous is that tr*mp is known to get most/all of his information from Fox News. That means that whatever nonsense they decide to ‘cover’ is necessarily important.

If Fox and Friends were to air a panel discussion on ‘How to tell if your Cat is Gay’, that will get into what passes for tr*mp’s tiny mind.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:19:19pm

re: #61 Skip Intro

It’s always been my belief that Trump’s son is autistic and since Trump has perfect genes the only reason for it are vaccinations.

I’m autistic (at least, I believe so, though I have never had a formal diagnosis to confirm it). Neither of my parents are. Do I blame vaccines? FUCK NO. Shit happens, like the spinal tumor that would have paralyzed me if I had let it continue growing (and might kill me if it recurs in my brain stem!…) But try telling that to a control freak who must be the master of his domain and god-emperor of all he surveys.

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lawhawk  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:20:11pm

re: #76 jaunte

Can’t repeat this enough.

The US responded faster to the following than Trump has to the crisis in Puerto Rico:

1) SE Asian tsunami/quake that killed 260,000 across multiple countries.
2) Japan tsunami/quake
3) Haiti quake.

Haiti is probably the closest analogue, and Trump has sent less personnel/equipment over a longer period of time than the US sent within first 72 hours.

Trump simply doesn’t know or care. He’d rather golf.

After an earthquake shattered Haiti’s capital on Jan. 12, 2010, the U.S. military mobilized as if it were going to war.

Before dawn the next morning, an Army unit was airborne, on its way to seize control of the main airport in Port-au-Prince. Within two days, the Pentagon had 8,000 American troops en route. Within two weeks, 33 U.S. military ships and 22,000 troops had arrived. More than 300 military helicopters buzzed overhead, delivering millions of pounds of food and water.

By contrast, eight days after Hurricane Maria ripped across neighboring Puerto Rico, just 4,400 service members were participating in federal operations to assist the devastated island, an Army general told reporters Thursday. In addition, about 1,000 Coast Guard members were aiding the efforts. About 40 U.S. military helicopters were helping to deliver food and water to the 3.4 million residents of the U.S. territory, along with 10 Coast Guard helicopters.

Trump has entire military at his disposal, and he’s failing Americans in mortal peril.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:20:38pm

He’s been watching CNN

Plus, if you start at 8, you can get in 18 by 2 right?

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:21:22pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

“Jean-Claude Van Damme’s waterbed, Steven Seagal”

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:22:05pm
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Skip Intro  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:22:26pm

re: #81 lawhawk

His base doesn’t think they’re Americans. They’re just more dirty, diseased foreigners trying to get a handout from Uncle Sucker. Trump will lose nobody in his base because of this.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:23:12pm
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William Lewis  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:23:28pm

re: #80 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m autistic (at least, I believe so, though I have never had a formal diagnosis to confirm it). Neither of my parents are. Do I blame vaccines? FUCK NO. Shit happens, like the spinal tumor that would have paralyzed me if I had let it continue growing (and might kill me if it recurs in my brain stem!…) But try telling that to a control freak who must be the master of his domain and god-emperor of all he surveys.

I’ve always been of the opinion that in the old days the ones we call autistic now were the odd uncle or aunt that lived in the attic once upon a time. Now? We let everyone live a full life - including finding people to love and marry and when the genes match up, well, we end up with a few more on the spectrum.

In the long run this is not a bad thing. We just need to accept them into doing the things they’re best at and letting the rest work itself out.

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fern01  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:24:10pm

re: #76 jaunte

On March 11, 2011, a massive earthquake and tsunami hit Japan. At 12:33 pm EST President Obama announced an aircraft carrier was en route.

And one can truly say - Jesus wept.

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stpaulbear  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:24:55pm

re: #82 Stanley Sea

Abby D. Phillip ✔@abbydphillip
Unlike last weekend when we couldn’t find evidence of a single call Trump made to local officials on the storm, he has 5 on sked tomorrow

And he’s budgeting a generous 10 minutes each for those calls. He’ll be out on the course within an hours.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:25:18pm
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retired cynic  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:26:02pm

re: #87 William Lewis

I think a lot of the people that today we diagnose as ADHD or on the spectrum would have done quite well in early frontier days. I would have died, because my attention would have been focused on something, and not tuned into the world at large.

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fern01  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:26:13pm

re: #76 jaunte

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Skip Intro  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:26:34pm

re: #89 stpaulbear

And he’s budgeting a generous 10 minutes each for those calls. He’ll be out on the course within an hours.

He has a cell phone. He’ll be making the calls while he’s cheating at golf.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:27:30pm

re: #87 William Lewis

I’ve always been of the opinion that in the old days the ones we call autistic now were the odd uncle or aunt that lived in the attic once upon a time. Now? We let everyone live a full life - including finding people to love and marry and when the genes match up, well, we end up with a few more on the spectrum.

In the long run this is not a bad thing. We just need to accept them into doing the things they’re best at and letting the rest work itself out.

Mrs. Fish has had a hard learning curve, adapting to my social quirks from being introverted and whatever they call Asperger’s sufferers these days. It took her many years to figure out how to provide good care for those times when I was overwhelmed and needed help to get out of a bad situation. Now that she’s got my back, I have never been happier or more productive or socially engaged.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:28:16pm

re: #74 jaunte

Meanwhile, Trump is watching…

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Same thing I said about when he had the witch on.

For his watchers, this is porn.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:29:18pm

Do we have standing for a lawsuit?

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:29:33pm

re: #94 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That is because she truly loves you and is helping you in your times of need.

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fern01  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:29:39pm

re: #82 Stanley Sea

He’s been watching CNN
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Plus, if you start at 8, you can get in 18 by 2 right?

I don’t see the Mayor of San Juan in that list - I wonder why?

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William Lewis  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:30:05pm

re: #91 retired cynic

I think a lot of the people that today we diagnose as ADHD or on the spectrum would have done quite well in early frontier days. I would have died, because my attention would have been focused on something, and not tuned into the world at large.

My son would have made a great shaman for a smallish tribe once upon a long time ago. I’d have been an average hunter/warrior.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:32:45pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

Churchill? Churchill would probably order MI-5 to perform some wet work on somebody like Wakefield. “The Blighter has to be a nazzee. Who else would try to cause an epidemic here?”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:33:15pm

re: #99 William Lewis

My son would have made a great shaman for a smallish tribe once upon a long time ago. I’d have been an average hunter/warrior.

I do okay at survival and feel like I would be a good person to have in the wilderness, if I had someone nearby to help me keep a level head. If I hit the panic stage, I’d be SO dead.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:33:59pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:35:00pm
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jaunte  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:37:10pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Wright’s wife works for Mitch McConnell.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:37:29pm

Today I found a use for MySQL’s UNION operator for the first time, and it works great. I used it to check 3 different tables for a match against a certain value, with one query statement. And it’s really fast.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:40:04pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

Today I found a use for MySQL’s UNION operator for the first time, and it works great. I used it to check 3 different tables for a match against a certain value, with one query statement. And it’s really fast.

UNION and UNION ALL are pretty nice. It came in handy for a recent project where I needed to return a single dataset for two different logical queries. My development team wrote it as one big query with multiple WHERE clauses joined by an OR, which resulted in horrible performance (single-digit seconds even for an empty record set). Splitting those OR statements into two queries joined by a UNION ALL completely resolved that performance issue.

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EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:40:22pm

re: #102 goddamnedfrank

I’d like to see more media attention on Pruitt’s Praetorian guard. I’ll settle for an SNL skit or two where they are dressed up as in Roman times.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:40:29pm

re: #96 jaunte

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Do we have standing for a lawsuit?

Nope. Nothing illegal.

Just totally improper.

Remember, normal isn’t normal anymore.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:40:59pm

re: #98 fern01

I don’t see the Mayor of San Juan in that list - I wonder why?

Noticed that as well.

Yeah.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:43:19pm

re: #108 Stanley Sea

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:43:32pm

Mildly OT, but one of my friends just tagged himself as safe in a wildfire called “The Canyon Fire”… What the actual fuck is going on out in Cali?

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:45:35pm

Hidden for vulgar, disgusting nsf anywhere content. I know you’ll have to look now but don’t say you weren’t warned.

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calochortus  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:45:59pm

re: #111 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Mildly OT, but one of my friends just tagged himself as safe in a wildfire called “The Canyon Fire”… What the actual fuck is going on out in Cali?

It’s fire season and what with exuberant growth of plants with last year’s rain and our usual dry summer/early fall there are a lot of fires.

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Cheechako  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:47:07pm

re: #111 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Mildly OT, but one of my friends just tagged himself as safe in a wildfire called “The Canyon Fire”… What the actual fuck is going on out in Cali?

See: Canyon Fire

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William Lewis  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:47:53pm

re: #112 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Heh. One can only hope.

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sagehen  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:48:00pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Glad Tucker is focused on important issues.

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:49:23pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Glad Tucker is focused on important issues.

His ratings.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:49:37pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

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Moore can’t even think for himself. Has to spout out FNC bullshit talking poitts.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:50:07pm

re: #113 calochortus

It’s fire season and what with exuberant growth of plants with last year’s rain and our usual dry summer/early fall there are a lot of fires.

Yeah. I figure the seasons here are Rain, Green, Fog, and Fire.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:50:34pm

re: #116 sagehen

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I just knew that FNC would focus on that Massachusetts librarian the second I read the story. Gotta get the rubes outraged at their fellow Americans.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:51:11pm

re: #119 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah. I figure the seasons here are Rain, Green, Fog, and Fire.

And you people wonder why I refuse to live in California despite being a liberal haven.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:53:15pm

re: #106 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

UNION and UNION ALL are pretty nice. It came in handy for a recent project where I needed to return a single dataset for two different logical queries. My development team wrote it as one big query with multiple WHERE clauses joined by an OR, which resulted in horrible performance (single-digit seconds even for an empty record set). Splitting those OR statements into two queries joined by a UNION ALL completely resolved that performance issue.

Yes, I originally wrote it as an ugly 3-table JOIN statement, and it worked but it was taking way too long to execute. The UNION version kicked booty.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:53:41pm

re: #121 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And you people wonder why I refuse to live in California despite being a liberal haven.

Aren’t there like two seasons where you live though? Freezing To Death and Blender Of God?

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stpaulbear  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:55:25pm

re: #123 Blind Frog Belly White

Aren’t there like two seasons where you live though? Freezing To Death and Blender Of God?

We have floods too.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:56:29pm

re: #111 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Mildly OT, but one of my friends just tagged himself as safe in a wildfire called “The Canyon Fire”… What the actual fuck is going on out in Cali?

North of me, thank dog I don’t need to travel on the 91.

Didn’t smell anything, no reports from my crews of trouble.

Close in some places

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JordanRules  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:56:46pm

NBA season starts tomorrow. No indication there will be anything different from other years but it’s 2017 and he felt he needed to send the memo.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:57:07pm

Well, this is a bad sign.

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fern01  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:57:40pm

re: #109 Stanley Sea

Noticed that as well.

Yeah.

President Obama was continually attacked by the GOP to talk to “all sides” - the cop he invited to “have a beer” being the prime example.

With Trump - if you don’t bow down low with yessir nosir - the GOP is happy that trump leaves you to die. This is a man who governs for himself - not for ANY other person on the planet.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:57:45pm

re: #117 Belafon

His ratings.

Of the brain dead

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:58:00pm

re: #123 Blind Frog Belly White

Aren’t there like two seasons where you live though? Freezing To Death and Blender Of God?

Winter and Road Construction, though “Blender of God” has a nice ring to it.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:59:11pm

re: #127 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Some people need a spell checker more than others.

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stpaulbear  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:59:42pm

re: #126 JordanRules

NBA season starts tomorrow. No indication there will be anything different from other years but it’s 2017 and he felt he needed to send the memo.

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He has a Mnuchin mouth…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2017 • 7:59:47pm

re: #122 Charles Johnson

Yes, I originally wrote it as an ugly 3-table JOIN statement, and it worked but it was taking way too long to execute. The UNION version kicked booty.

You’d be amazed how many hours I had to spend buried in SQL Server’s query analysis tools before I figured out where the performance hit was coming from, though. Incredibly powerful… remarkably unhelpful, sometimes.

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fern01  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:00:26pm

re: #126 JordanRules

Can but hope he is ignored

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JordanRules  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:00:30pm

re: #132 stpaulbear

LOL!!

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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:01:06pm

re: #116 sagehen

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JordanRules  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:01:20pm

re: #134 fern01

Yup. They have a great players union and the Constitution on their side.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:02:00pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:02:02pm

re: #124 stpaulbear

We have floods too.

How Biblical!
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:03:05pm

re: #130 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Winter and Road Construction, though “Blender of God” has a nice ring to it.

I confess I stole it from “Twister”.

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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:04:04pm

re: #140 Blind Frog Belly White

I confess I stole it from “Twister”.

Pretty sure it was “finger of God” not “blender.”

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prairiefire  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:04:24pm

re: #140 Blind Frog Belly White

I confess I stole it from “Twister”.

It is very apt.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:04:37pm
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JordanRules  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:04:53pm

Lin’s tweets are getting less restrained.

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prairiefire  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:05:42pm

I like “blender” because it implies things churning around, like cows, siding and semi’s.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:07:19pm

re: #144 JordanRules

Lin’s tweets are getting less restrained.

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I don’t blame him. This is ridiculous.

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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:07:38pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:07:41pm

re: #141 teleskiguy

Pretty sure it was “finger of God” not “blender.”

Hey, you’re right! So “Blender of God” is ALL MINE!!!

I demand royalties!!!

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:08:48pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:09:26pm
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Belafon  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:10:29pm

Where are places I can donate money to that are actually sending things to Puerto Rico?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:10:43pm

BTW, “Finger of God”, referring to an F5 tornado, makes me think more this kind of finger…

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JordanRules  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:10:44pm

re: #148 Blind Frog Belly White

Check your wallet.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:11:11pm

re: #76 jaunte

To be fair, it does need to be remembered, the the majority of those ships, aircraft and personnel were based in Japan.

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JordanRules  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:11:37pm

re: #151 Belafon

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calochortus  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:13:34pm

Time to catch up on The Vietnam War. We’re up to 1970-73, so only one more episode to go after this. Really good, but I won’t be sorry to finish and watch something a bit lighter.

Hasta mañana, Lizards.

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:14:09pm

re: #155 JordanRules

Thanks.

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JordanRules  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:14:12pm

re: #151 Belafon

Another great option.

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:15:37pm

I was hoping someone was watching Big Hero Six and going “Hey, that’s a great idea!”:

The E-SWARM team outlines how they created robots whose bodies and control systems formed new robotic systems as necessary, while retaining full sensorimotor control, regardless of shape and size. Within this MNS robotic system, where the units connected via the robot nervous system, the centralised decision-making unit is known as the ‘brain unit’. These mergeable nervous system (MNS) robots were able to merge by absorbing units of different capabilities into its body forming larger clusters with a single centralised controller; split into separate bodies with independent ‘brain units’, and self-heal by removing or replacing malfunctioning body parts including a malfunctioning brain unit.

The team set-up an experiment for ten robotic units. The units formed a series of MNS robots of different shapes and sizes, as they adhered to pre-determined behavioural rules. For example, the MNS robots all displayed the same coordinated sensorimotor reaction to a provided stimulus which involved ‘pointing’ at the stimulus, using light emitting diodes (LEDs), as well as retreating from it, when it was sufficiently close. When a cluster of units points to the stimulus, only the LEDs closest to the stimulus illuminate, regardless of the robotic unit to which they belong.

Building the agile robots of the future

Despite only engaging 10 units for the experiment, the paper’s authors point out that their system is designed to be scalable, both in terms of computational resources for robotic control and reaction time to stimulus, within the system. Looking to the future, the team suggest that robots will likely be designed for adaptability to changing task requirements and no longer only for specific tasks.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:17:17pm

re: #141 teleskiguy

Pretty sure it was “finger of God” not “blender.”

Somehow this is reminding me of Stephen King’s The Mangler.

Yeah?

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:17:26pm
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jaunte  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:18:09pm

“Companies should be on notice that we care when they pollute our air, our water, our environment,” District Attorney Kim Ogg said Friday in a statement. “We are looking into exactly what happened at the plant. We are gathering facts and we will apply the law. Arkema is under criminal investigation.”

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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:18:49pm

re: #160 Stanley Sea

Somehow this is reminding me of Stephen King’s The Mangler.

Yeah?

The Mangler! Saw that during a Halloween party at my house when I was like 15. What a stupid movie!

Haven’t thought about that in years!

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plansbandc  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:20:37pm

re: #163 teleskiguy

The short story is pretty great. Movie, not so much.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:20:51pm

Seems Big Daddy Xi is cleaning house.

Xi only wants underlings who agree with his vision for the future of the Party.

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:21:46pm

re: #164 plansbandc

The short story is pretty great. Movie, not so much.

I thought it was a weird story to make a movie on.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:23:19pm

re: #150 teleskiguy

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Epitome example of privilege.

Fight it out fuckers.

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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:25:36pm

re: #166 Belafon

I thought it was a weird story to make a movie on.

Haunted industrial laundry iron eats people!

I’ve actually operated a mangle, when I folded sheets and table cloths for the ski area when I was 17-18. There’s enough safety mechanisms in place that you’d have to *really* fuck up to get fingers or limbs caught.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:26:00pm

re: #163 teleskiguy

The Mangler! Saw that during a Halloween party at my house when I was like 15. What a stupid movie!

Haven’t thought about that in years!

As always, the book was the real deal.

Night Shift

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VegasGolfer  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:26:30pm

re: #154 FormerDirtDart

Guess youve never heard of staging.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:27:16pm

re: #166 Belafon

I thought it was a weird story to make a movie on.

The story though! Fucking A.

Been so many years & I remember it pretty damn good.

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retired cynic  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:28:34pm

re: #168 teleskiguy

Haunted industrial laundry iron eats people!

I’ve actually operated a mangle, when I folded sheets and table cloths for the ski area when I was 17-18. There’s enough safety mechanisms in place that you’d have to *really* fuck up to get fingers or limbs caught.

My grandparents had one in their old dark, damp basement. I still wasn’t afraid of it, because it had a safety mechanism that would open the rollers if something very thick, like a hand, got in it. And the rollers weren’t _real_ hard. I was more afraid of the spiders.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:28:41pm

re: #168 teleskiguy

Haunted industrial laundry iron eats people!

I’ve actually operated a mangle, when I folded sheets and table cloths for the ski area when I was 17-18. There’s enough safety mechanisms in place that you’d have to *really* fuck up to get fingers or limbs caught.

Again, read the story.

The sequence of what needed to happen was so gloriously told.

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:30:31pm

re: #168 teleskiguy

Haunted industrial laundry iron eats people!

I’ve actually operated a mangle, when I folded sheets and table cloths for the ski area when I was 17-18. There’s enough safety mechanisms in place that you’d have to *really* fuck up to get fingers or limbs caught.

I liked the story, and most of Night Shift. It just seemed a bit too far for a movie.

And as for what you’re describing, it reminds me of people responding to the escape scene in Finding Nemo. If it were true to life, it would have had to have been called Grinding Nemo.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:31:50pm

A great commentary on why the Trump Administration is deliberately letting the Puerto Ricans starved to death. They’re using the same tactic the Ethiopian dictatorship used against it’s political enemies in it’s northern provinces by blocking food, aid, and medical supplies during the their 1985 famine.

miamiherald.com

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plansbandc  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:32:51pm

re: #169 Stanley Sea

I think King’s short stories are his best work.

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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:33:18pm
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sagehen  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:33:33pm

re: #150 teleskiguy

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Does sharing the tickets mean they still sit next to each other every game, or they alternate which game each gets a pair?

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:33:56pm

re: #177 teleskiguy

LOLOLOLOL

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JordanRules  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:35:12pm

re: #177 teleskiguy

ROFL!!!!

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electrotek  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:41:09pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:43:01pm

re: #175 DodgerFan1988

A great commentary on why the Trump Administration is deliberately letting the Puerto Ricans starved to death. They’re using the same tactic the Ethiopian dictatorship used against it’s political enemies in it’s northern provinces by blocking food, aid, and medical supplies during the their 1985 famine.

miamiherald.com

So horrible, so predictable

of the idiot in charge.

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electrotek  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:44:50pm

re: #181 electrotek

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BTW, this was the catalyst that lead to the eventual break-up of East and West Pakistan, creating the newly created nation of Bangladesh built upon the blood of millions shed by the Pakistani military.

Let’s hope to God Puerto Rico does not become America’s Bangladesh.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:46:42pm

re: #126 JordanRules

NBA season starts tomorrow. No indication there will be anything different from other years but it’s 2017 and he felt he needed to send the memo.

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I looked up the rule:

Players, coaches and trainers are to stand and line up in a dignified posture along the sidelines or on the foul line during the playing of the National Anthem.

Dignified posture is a subjective term. It doesn’t say they can’t kneel before the anthem or have to face the flag during it.

Each player when introduced, prior to the game, must be uniformly dressed.

So if they all wear black armbands that’s ok.

The league is going to regret fucking with these men.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:48:09pm

re: #176 plansbandc

I think King’s short stories are his best work.

Did you read Just After Sunset?

Short stories after he bought a house on the West Coast of FL. below Boca Grande, I believe.

I am still shuddering from those stories.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:49:28pm

re: #183 electrotek

BTW, this was the catalyst that lead to the eventual break-up of East and West Pakistan, creating the newly created nation of Bangladesh built upon the blood of millions shed by the Pakistani military.

Let’s hope to God Puerto Rico does not become America’s Bangladesh.

How’s your foot???

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electrotek  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:50:22pm

re: #186 Stanley Sea

How’s your foot???

Getting better, but still crap. I stopped using crutches after I felt my right arm and finger feeling funny while using them. Not going to risk any nerve damage with crutches so I’m just winging it for the time being.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:53:09pm

re: #187 electrotek

Getting better, but still crap. I stopped using crutches after I felt my right arm and finger feeling funny while using them. Not going to risk any nerve damage with crutches so I’m just winging it for the time being.

Be very aware & careful.

Indifference in youth = massive trouble in old age

-from your sage Stanley Sea

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retired cynic  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:55:37pm

re: #188 Stanley Sea

Be very aware & careful.

Indifference in youth = massive trouble in old age

-from your sage Stanley Sea

I always say some things just turn out to be permanent improvements.

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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:55:47pm
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Dave In Austin  Sep 29, 2017 • 8:56:48pm

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:01:53pm

re: #161 jaunte

Chron in line for a Pulitzer here.

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Jay C  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:10:02pm

re: #127 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Well, this is a bad sign.

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Only if it’s Room 666….

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:12:57pm

re: #192 Ace Rothstein

Chron in line for a Pulitzer here.

Blessed.

But. Arkema made the news.

What about all the others? I know there’s more.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:13:53pm

re: #192 Ace Rothstein

Chron in line for a Pulitzer here.

Also, Pulitzer for their photo essays.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 29, 2017 • 9:44:16pm

re: #112 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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