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ipsos  Oct 2, 2017 • 6:42:24pm

We must - but we won’t. Because this is America now.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 6:51:21pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2017 • 6:52:38pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 2, 2017 • 6:54:51pm

Still sad about Vegas and Petty.
Classic from AV club.

14 classic Tom Petty opening lines

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lawhawk  Oct 2, 2017 • 6:56:32pm

It’s a trip through the history that the US would rather we not teach or remember.

From Wounded Knee to mass lynching and race riots led by white supremacists who murdered blacks or Native Americans to assert their dominance.

Some things just haven’t changed.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:01:46pm

re: #5 lawhawk

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It’s a trip through the history that the US would rather we not teach or remember.

This is the history that simpleminded ‘patriots’ expend vast energy to keep from looking at. They know they’re doing it, but they deny it. This is the emotional distortion that feeds their rage at BLM, and at the NFL players who kneel to bring attention to our historical and ongoing race problem.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:02:55pm
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Broad With Sass  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:05:19pm

The crazed gunman had a house across the street from where I work in Florida, in the gated retirement community….I just can’t anymore

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:05:39pm

Hannity still stuck in a childish good guy with a gun fantasy.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:06:34pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:08:24pm
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Ace Rothstein  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:08:40pm

re: #9 jaunte

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Hannity still stuck in a childish good guy with a gun fantasy.

Note to Hannity: They only call gun magazines “clips” in the movies.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:09:45pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

He’s definitely going to take some narcissistic damage in Puerto Rico when they fail to praise him sufficiently.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:10:56pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:11:07pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:11:35pm

A post at Fark from Mike_LowELL It’s about nine hours old, so the numbers are low.

You know, I was reading one of the headlines earlier, and it kinda made me wonder what would happen if you brought the Founding Fathers into the future, and you told them about this: “50 dead, 400 injured in shooting.”

They’d probably first ask what you mean by “shooting”, and ask why an army or militia attacked innocent civilians, what was the root cause of the unrest, what would lead a government to attack its own citizens. Then you would have to explain to them, “No, we don’t know why he did it. This was one person. No affiliation.”

They would be confused. They would probably try to clarify, maybe they’d ask how one person was able to kill so many people over so many years, and how he was able to do this without ever being caught or killed. Then you would say, “No, this all happened over the course of a single hour.”

They’d still be very, very confused. They wouldn’t be able to make much sense of it at all. Then, in the simplest possible terms that you could, without having their brains flake, you would explain to them that the explosion of learning through the 16th century, along with 19th-century revolutions in industry, began a period of incredible technological progress continuing well into the the 21st century.

As it turned out, one of those innovations involved the creation of firearms that could shoot tens of bullets a second and fire hundreds of the things before a man had to reload, and that these guns could deal lethal damage from close to half-a-mile out.

Assuming the Founding Fathers haven’t completely lost their minds, then perhaps, perhaps they believe this “mass shooting” be an exceptional circumstance, that such an incident operates well outside the boundaries of the law. That’s when you tell them mass shootings with dozens of deaths happen close to once a year, using legally-acquired weapons.

The defense of “the right to bear arms” in the 21st century, you’d tell them, is the same one you made at the time: That these weapons are necessary to protect citizens against the evils of their government. You then pause to think whether you should tell the Founding Fathers that our modern military can obliterate those “automatic firearms” with flying iron birds that drop exploding cannonballs, for the fear that you may just snap their brains.

But either way, you tell them to make the right decision, you wish them good luck, and you throw them back into the timewarp with the help of Obama’s time machine. The greatest minds of our country’s genesis must now create a government that accounts for a world where “the right to bear arms” can cause hundreds of casualties in a matter of minutes.

Meanwhile, in the altered timeline, the right-wing trolls on Fark post massive pictures of their knife collections and make edgy statements like, “Yeah, let’s see him take a swing at me when I have my knife!” And that’s when George Washington looks down from the sky, says “Hey Mike!”, and gives me a thumbs-up, the laughtrack howls, and the credits roll.

And I guess what I’m trying to say is, fark these dickless manlets and their killsticks. Goddamn, this is bullshiat. Like I said in the other thread: There are people defending Charles Whitman’s right to go up to the clock tower with a machine gun. I mean, holy shiat. I breathe the same air as these people

Article containing the comment.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:11:47pm

re: #13 jaunte

He’s definitely going to take some narcissistic damage in Puerto Rico when they fail to praise him sufficiently.

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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:12:04pm
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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:12:56pm

re: #15 The Vicious Babushka

So pathetic. Talking about himself in the third person like he’s a superhero.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:13:00pm

Just about everyone has heard of Russian Roulette, right? One detail about Russian Roulette is that if you want to ‘play’, you voluntarily join in. Well, here in America we have American Roulette.

No need to join join in, nor can you opt out; our Second Amendment forces everyone to play this deadly game.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:13:51pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:15:04pm

re: #16 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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ipsos  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:15:52pm

re: #20 Odie Hugh Manatee

Just about everyone has heard of Russian Roulette, right? One detail about Russian Roulette is that if you want to ‘play’, you voluntarily join in. Well, here in America we have American Roulette.

No need to join join in, nor can you opt out; our Second Amendment forces everyone to play this deadly game.

Robbie Robertson beat you there almost 30 years ago…

Robbie Robertson American Roulette Letterman

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Charles Johnson  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:17:31pm
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Dr. Matt  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:18:13pm
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meteor  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:20:09pm

This Trump asshole is worse than Cthulhu.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:20:54pm
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mmmirele  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:23:25pm

Today one of my managers retired and I had lunch with him. (I also inherited his very large monitor to replace my old, tiny monitor.) I asked him where he was first going on vacation and he said to Laguna Beach. Where he would be getting married, to his partner of nearly 40 years. They met 40 years ago next week at Arizona State University. Of course, I got all choked up at that because for so many years and still to some extent, society has conspired to keep same-sex couples apart through legal and other means. I think he was embarrassed.

Later today, one of my friends from college (35 years ago) noted that Rep. Maxine Waters is calling for the dissolution of my evil too big to fail employer.

money.cnn.com

Not that that’s going to happen, but if it did, it would give me an excuse to move to Virginia and take up picketing theatre in front of the NRA offices and National Firearms Museum in Fairfax, as I’ve been threatening to do for several years now.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:23:55pm

re: #27 jaunte

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They can. Stock share prices are up.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:24:25pm

re: #29 Barefoot Grin

They know the drill.

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Skip Intro  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:26:44pm

re: #18 teleskiguy

Why doesn’t Wayne have his 288 characters? Surely he’s passed the test.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:26:51pm

re: #27 jaunte

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NRA front page is all about the nifty swag they’re offering new members.

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stpaulbear  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:30:11pm

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:30:26pm

LBJ Carter Clinton Obama Clinton again Soros is coming for your gunz! Stock up now while you have the chance!

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:32:31pm

35 minutes is going to test his abilities.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:33:23pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:34:38pm

re: #35 jaunte

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35 minutes is going to test his abilities.

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Skip Intro  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:35:23pm

re: #35 jaunte

He must be looking for a hotel/golf course site. I bet he could pick one up pretty cheaply right now.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:36:08pm

re: #38 Stanley Sea

Named for the Cavalry of Machine Gun Jesus.

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Cheechako  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:36:21pm

re: #35 jaunte

I hope the Governor of PR brings along the Mayor of San Juan as a guest.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:37:58pm

re: #39 Skip Intro

He’s spending almost as much time on the USS Kearsarge as he is on Puerto Rican soil.

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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:38:04pm
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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:38:54pm

Trump gets to pose on an aircraft carrier and say Mission Accomplished.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:39:50pm

re: #44 jaunte

Trump gets to pose on an aircraft carrier and say Mission Accomplished.

Will he stick a sock in his jockstrap like Dumbya did?

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:40:18pm

re: #45 Joe Bacon 🌹

Extra long red tie.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:41:01pm

re: #40 jaunte

Named for the Cavalry of Machine Gun Jesus.

Charge of the light brigade. (Well, actually cash only. No electricity, donchaknow.)

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:41:33pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:41:37pm
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stpaulbear  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:42:45pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:42:56pm

Read this.

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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:43:56pm

re: #50 stpaulbear

Funny you post this, I was about to. I watched this before I did that li’l tweetstorm.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:44:23pm
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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:45:30pm

re: #49 teleskiguy

Something doesn’t add up.

Collecting 42 firearms, thousands of rounds of ammunition, and explosives?

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Skip Intro  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:47:31pm

re: #53 Joe Bacon 🌹

I got it! He was a millionaire so he should have stayed in a more expensive room.

FALSE FLAG!!!

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:48:23pm

re: #53 Joe Bacon 🌹

Her parents still add it for her.

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stpaulbear  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:49:11pm

re: #52 teleskiguy

Funny you post this, I was about to. I watched this before I did that li’l tweetstorm.

I watched it about 10 minutes ago and I could tell it fit in perfectly with your tweets. I put it up on my Facebook page.

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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:49:19pm
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makeitstop  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:52:40pm

Rude Pundit ain’t in the mood for NRA bullshit.

Not that gun owners care or have any perspective. Let me give you one anecdote before getting to the motherfucking NRA. Lorraine Berry wrote to me this morning: “I’m trapped in a waiting room in Florida waiting for a mammogram. Watching the news and some newsperson asks why the guy did this. I say, ‘Because we sell machine guns in this country.’ Immediately, 5 women come after me, tell me they love their guns. One owns 6. Immediately start speculating it was Antifa that did this. I cite facts but they accuse me of being emotional…After they thought I had stopped paying attention, they started talking amongst themselves. ‘My son-in-law is a registered gun dealer. I know so many people with mental problems that own guns. I don’t know how they got through the loopholes. Unless you’ve been certified, you can buy a gun.’ But they’re so sure that it’s their right to own those guns. Told me it was their constitutional right. They told me they were tired of being ‘silenced.’ I said, ‘You haven’t had a gun law passed in a decade. You own Congress. I have no idea how you are the victims here.’”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:52:46pm

re: #54 jaunte

You can thank lax gun laws and piss poor enforcement of existent laws for that.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:53:14pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:54:38pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

But the RWNJs will still think he’s a “thug”.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:56:21pm

re: #45 Joe Bacon 🌹

Will he stick a sock in his jockstrap like Dumbya did?

I thought that was a couple of onions… at least that’s what I remember Chris Matthews saying.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:58:05pm

Twitter just prevented me from tweeting about the NRA (three times in a row)

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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:58:21pm
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mmmirele  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:58:40pm

re: #58 teleskiguy

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 2, 2017 • 7:59:09pm

re: #63 Odie Hugh Manatee

I thought that was a couple of onions… at least that’s what I remember Chris Matthews saying.

Still remember Tweety gushing all over Dumbya when he did the sock in a jock trick. And Gordon Liddy was also in on the slobberfest!

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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:01:42pm
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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:05:39pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:05:50pm

Shooting An AR-15 (Bump Fire Stock)

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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:08:01pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

That weapon in the video is perfectly legal under U.S. gun laws.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:08:10pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

Dammit. I posted about that some time ago and got some talkback about how “inaccurate” that would make the rifle. Accuracy doesn’t matter if you’re firing into a packed crowd.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:10:13pm
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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:12:33pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:12:51pm

As for explosives, the young woman who works at the feed store told me how much fun she and her husband had trying out tannerite for the first time. Tannerite is freely available at shooting suppliers everywhere. It supposedly will not detonate unless it is hit by a high velocity projectile but there are probably several work-arounds for this by now. I am not going to post any details on those though.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:13:34pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:13:50pm

re: #72 jaunte

Dammit. I posted about that some time ago and go some talkback about how “inaccurate” that would make the rifle. Accuracy doesn’t matter if you’re firing into a packed crowd.

When you’re 400 yards away and 300 feet in the air firing on a crowd of 22,000 with a modified rifle like that, you will get almost 600 casualties.

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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:15:36pm

I can’t wrap my mind around it. This scum fuck managed to shoot almost 600 people, killing 10% of them. My anger towards the Thoughts and Prayers caucus of the Republican Party is at a fever pitch.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:15:39pm

re: #77 teleskiguy

When you’re 400 yards away and 300 feet in the air firing on a crowd of 22,000 with a modified rifle like that, you will get almost 600 casualties.

It’s very likely that some of the bullets hit more than 1 person.

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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:16:42pm

U.S.A! U.S.A!

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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:17:13pm

re: #74 jaunte

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Follow the link, an amazing graphic with the sound of the bullets. Compares it to Pulse.

Scary as fuck.

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Kragar  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:17:32pm

re: #79 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Ricochets and shrapnel injuries, plus people who get injured trying to escape.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:18:40pm

re: #73 jaunte

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Never know when a couple of those concert goers might be wearing a flak jacket.

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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:19:40pm

Somethin’ a little lighter…

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:20:16pm

re: #83 Eventual Carrion

The Arms of Krupp had an earlier example of an industry (in that example, a single company) selling arms to one side, and armor to the other. Profits!

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makeitstop  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:20:30pm

re: #79 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

It’s very likely that some of the bullets hit more than 1 person.

And a lot of the injuries may have been from the crowd stampeding to get away from the gunfire.

I haven’t seen any description of the types of injuries anywhere.

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Kragar  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:20:40pm
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Ace Rothstein  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:21:25pm

re: #37 Dr. Matt

Dana Loesch?

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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:22:06pm

re: #86 makeitstop

And a lot of the injuries may have been from the crowd stampeding to get away from the gunfire.

I haven’t seen any description of the types of injuries anywhere.

I heard a Dr. on CNN earlier. Mix with stampede type injuries, but mostly gunshot IIRC.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:22:24pm

At the Amritsar Massacre in 1919, the 67 soldiers who fired their weapons discharged almost exactly 1650 rounds, causing (officially) 1529 casualties, 329 dead and 1200 wounded. This was even with an unknown, but possibly significant, number of the shooters aiming above the crowd rather than directly into them. Many sources put the casualty numbers higher.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:22:46pm

re: #79 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

It’s very likely that some of the bullets hit more than 1 person.

Oh yeah. Rips through someones shoulder, cuts through side of the person next to them, and then lodges in the thigh or calf of the next person.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:26:27pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:28:03pm
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mmmirele  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:36:14pm

The local fishwrap embarrasses itself again.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:36:29pm

re: #49 teleskiguy

Help me…I’ve been in Tami Lahren’s Twitter feed since I read your comment. So many obvious bots (Name + 4-digit #) and conspiracy nuts.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:37:42pm

re: #51 Stanley Sea

I choked up bad when it came to the part about his mother calling his phone and talking to her.

Heart wrenching doesn’t even begin to describe it.

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:38:00pm

re: #68 Stanley Sea

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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:39:06pm

re: #95 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Help me…I’ve been in Tami Lahren’s Twitter feed since I read your comment. So many obvious bots (Name + 4-digit #) and conspiracy nuts.

Don’t engage. Report, block early, block often.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:39:35pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:39:58pm

re: #94 mmmirele

The local fishwrap embarrasses itself again.

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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:40:43pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

Tweet was deleted by AP and updated.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:41:13pm

re: #98 teleskiguy

Don’t engage. Report, block early, block often.

Too late. I looked at the trap, Ray.

Ghostbusters Trap Reference

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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:42:22pm

re: #102 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:44:08pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

Legal and readily available online.

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Kilroy was here  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:48:18pm
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Cheechako  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:49:14pm

Maybe the States should use the Second Amendment to manage firearms and create official “State Militias” and require that in order to own and use any firearms in the State you must be a card carrying, insurance covered, and dues paying member of said Militia.

This would meet the 2nd Amendment requirement of “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,….”.

To get your official “State Militia” membership card you must attend so many hours of certified firearms training, complete an extensive background check and demonstrate competence in using and handling firearms. You must also have to show a secure place/location for the storage of the firearms you own. The dues you pay would be used to pay for the training and background checks.

If someone elects not to join the State Militia, then any firearm(s) they own would be
subject to immediate confiscation when discovered followed by fines and/or jail time.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:49:29pm

chicagotribune.com

From a band which played a few hours before the shooting in Las Vegas, but was still present at the site when it happened:

However, one member of the band went even further, posting a lengthy message on Twitter about his personal response to the attack. After spending the night fearing for his life, Caleb Keeter, the group’s lead guitarist, spoke up about gun control.

“I’ve been a proponent of the 2nd amendment my entire life. Until the events of last night. I cannot express how wrong I was. We actually have members of our crew with [Concealed Handgun Licenses], and legal firearms on the bus,” Keeter wrote. “They were useless.” He continued:

“We couldn’t touch them for fear police might think we were part of the massacre and shoot us. A small group (or one man) laid waste to a city with dedicated, fearless police officers desperately trying to help, because of access to an insane amount of fire power.

“Enough is enough.

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whitebeach  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:50:09pm

re: #75 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

As for explosives, the young woman who works at the feed store told me how much fun she and her husband had trying out tannerite for the first time. Tannerite is freely available at shooting suppliers everywhere. It supposedly will not detonate unless it is hit by a high velocity projectile but there are probably several work-arounds for this by now. I am not going to post any details on those though.

My across-the-road neighbor, a good guy in most respects, is a gun nut and loves him some tannerite. The first time he exploded a load I thought he’d blown himself up. The second time I was curious because I hadn’t heard a high-powered rifle before the explosion, just something smallbore. I asked, and he told me a .22 would set the stuff off, no problem.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:52:37pm

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹

I respect Stone Kettle, but we should be thankful that this guy has reached the right conclusion.

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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:52:58pm

re: #106 Cheechako

This makes too much sense. I don’t think the country that elected Fuckface Von Clownstick President is ready for that.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:54:06pm

re: #101 teleskiguy

Tweet was deleted by AP and updated.

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Huh, someone at Fark said they could tell it was a bump stock by the timing of the shots, and I assumed it was BS. Fortunately I didn’t express my doubt.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:54:33pm
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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:55:11pm

Sorry, bad paste. Reload.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:55:30pm

Man loses leg by shooting lawn mower full of explosives

He considered suing the manufacturer, but experts said he didn’t have a leg to stand on.

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VegasGolfer  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:56:15pm

re: #112 jaunte

What a diverse crowd they got there.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:56:18pm

A sobering thought-

Think about how different the reaction from everyone from Donald Trump all the way down to his base would have been if this massacre of hundreds wasn’t for a country music gathering, but instead, a rap music festival or even a Tejano concert with the same number of victims.

I’m already seeing on some far-right forums that openly wished that non-whites were the ones who were killed and injured.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:56:31pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:59:04pm

re: #109 Mike Lamb

I respect Stone Kettle, but we should be thankful that this guy has reached the right conclusion.

There is that.

However, Mr. Wright is noting the same thing that is noted here: An awful lot of conservatives only care about something (gun violence, LGBT rights, &c) when it affects them personally.

This man in the band saying he was wrong is good. The fact that no other mass shootings affected his position shows his lack of empathy.

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VegasGolfer  Oct 2, 2017 • 8:59:27pm

re: #117 jaunte

Why is it that these rwnj’s have a difficult time spelling?

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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:00:02pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:00:54pm

re: #109 Mike Lamb

I respect Stone Kettle, but we should be thankful that this guy has reached the right conclusion.

re: #109 Mike Lamb

He got it

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BigPapa  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:01:06pm

He’s all icksnay on the sharia-vay. He’s a cool kid.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:01:08pm

re: #119 VegasGolfer

Too eager to get the righteous slam out to proof.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:01:09pm

re: #18 teleskiguy

That’s not how journalism works.

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Scout  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:01:19pm

The media here are reporting that the Las Vegas suspect’s “girl friend” has been located here in Tokyo.

No word on what she’s doing here. Just a guess on my part, but I think she was probably just transiting between other countries.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:01:36pm

The bartender who was in the story I posted above is on CNN right now.

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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:01:42pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:05:09pm

Ooo my wife just brought me ribs (cut away from the bone and in small pieces because I still can’t operate a knife after my surgery) and baked potatoes and greens and goodies …

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Charles Johnson  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:09:13pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:10:33pm

Bawling

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:10:54pm
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Romantic Heretic  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:12:35pm

re: #112 jaunte

What he should be fantasizing about is his weapon jamming. No way a magazine that size is going to feed every round.

And then trying to change it under fire? Good luck!

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:16:41pm

Rumor at one of the fevered swamps I cruise some of the members there are claiming that the murderer was ID’d at some anti-Trump rally while wearing a pink hat and carrying a sign. IOW, some nutjob found a picture of someone that resembles him and are posting it as fact. Another member is claiming that he was a member of Antifa.

Crazy fucks.

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Kragar  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:19:13pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:19:19pm

re: #133 Odie Hugh Manatee

Rumor at one of the fevered swamps I cruise some of the members there are claiming that the murderer was ID’d at some anti-Trump rally while wearing a pink hat and carrying a sign. IOW, some nutjob found a picture of someone that resembles him and are posting it as fact. Another member is claiming that he was a member of Antifa.

Crazy fucks.

Reposting this - Buzzfeed has the lowdown

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:19:43pm

re: #133 Odie Hugh Manatee

Rumor at one of the fevered swamps I cruise some of the members there are claiming that the murderer was ID’d at some anti-Trump rally while wearing a pink hat and carrying a sign. IOW, some nutjob found a picture of someone that resembles him and are posting it as fact. Another member is claiming that he was a member of Antifa.

Crazy fucks.

Yeah, Our old buddy Pam was on this one.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:20:57pm

re: #135 Stanley Sea

I already knew it was bullshit, just by its stench. :)

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:25:57pm

Being of rather humble origin, I have always been reluctant to think of myself as smarter than most other people, or part of some kind of elite. Looking at the slavering RWNJ troll hordes, though, and comparing them to LGF, I really have to conclude that I am a Lord of Creation, or at least a favored acolyte.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:33:39pm

re: #138 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Being of rather humble origin, I have always been reluctant to think of myself as smarter than most other people, or part of some kind of elite. Looking at the slavering RWNJ troll hordes, though, and comparing them to LGF, I really have to conclude that I am a Lord of Creation, or at least a favored acolyte.

If members of LGF are Lords of Creation, why aren’t we in charge? /s

I certainly am not some sort of “elite.” (Well, I guess you could call me a coastal elite liberal, since I live on the Inland Coast.)

Even smart people can be taken in by conspiracy theories or irrational thinking. There are plenty of smart RWNJs.

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Interesting Times  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:36:23pm

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹

Even smart people can be taken in by conspiracy theories or irrational thinking. There are plenty of smart RWNJs.

I call those types “willfully stupid.” They’re by far the worst. Someone who’s ignorant in the conventional sense of the word (i.e. they simply don’t know something) can be educated and change their mind accordingly. But the willfully ignorant/stupid revel in the toxic muck of dumbassery and drag others down to sink with them.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:36:42pm

They read the tweets.

And they corrected the misspelling of Calvary Church!
They deleted the trip altogether. My brain is fried.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:39:38pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:39:51pm

This was a welcome distraction.

Ski and Snowboard Museum- 100 Years of Ski Fashion

Here’s me a couple of years ago with the latest ski fashion (that I like).

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Charles Johnson  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:40:49pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:49:56pm

re: #112 jaunte

My wife glanced at that photo of the guy holding the mass shooter clip and said “At first I thought that was a giant micrometer.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:53:11pm
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VegasGolfer  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:53:11pm

re: #142 Stanley Sea
Goddamn snowflakes. I was on one of my golf websites today and there was a thread about being a cop as a career, and one cop replied its a good job if you don’t let the “dishonest media” get you down. (You know the media only reports the bad stuff LE does, not the good stuff, like i saw people praising them all day today).
Im tempted to ask for the guys precinct address to send him a care package to soothe his fragile feelings.

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austin_blue  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:56:58pm

Is it just me, or does the Republican Party simply exist to defend the indefensible, attack the truth, and deny the inalienable rights of Americans who are female and/or black and brown?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 2, 2017 • 9:57:02pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

Ugh. A shitty end to a shitty day. At least it’s over in 5 minutes in my part of the world.

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BeachDem  Oct 2, 2017 • 10:22:19pm

re: #142 Stanley Sea

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