And Now, a Great Tiny Desk Concert From Steve Martin and the Steep Canyon Rangers

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Sept. 25, 2017 | Robin Hilton — It’s hard to think of an artist who’s brought more joy to more people, across more generations — and in more ways — than Steve Martin. In the 1970s, he won the hearts of young children for his playful appearances with The Muppets while simultaneously charming legions of older fans with his subversive standup routines. Later, as an actor, he wrote and starred in some of the most memorable comedies (and a few dramas) of all time, while writing books, plays and even a Broadway musical.

Throughout his 50-year career, one constant in Steve Martin’s life has been the banjo. It was a staple of his early standup shows and even fans who only wanted to laugh couldn’t help but marvel at his playing. Over the years, he’s continued to perform and record with country and bluegrass luminaries like Earl Scruggs, Dolly Parton, Vince Gill and others.

These days Martin is working on music full-time. He’s just released a stellar bluegrass album he recorded with The Steep Canyon Rangers called (perfectly) The Long-Awaited Album, a record filled with often hilarious story songs and world-class performances.

Martin’s set with The Steep Canyon Rangers at the Tiny Desk was at times thrilling, particularly his opening solo for the song “So Familiar.” But it was also playful, comical and a joy to witness. At the end of the typical three-song performance, the group graciously decided to do one more called “Caroline,” a hilarious, first-person account of how not to handle a breakup.

Set List

“So Familiar”
“All Night Long”
“On The Water”
“Caroline”

Musicians

Steve Martin (banjo, vocals), Woody Platt (guitar, vocals), Mike Ashworth (percussion), Mike Guggino (mandolin), Charles Humphrey (bass), Graham Sharp (banjo, vocals), Nicky Sanders (fiddle)

Credits

Producers: Robin Hilton, Morgan Noelle Smith; Creative Director: Bob Boilen; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Morgan Noelle Smith, Niki Walker, Bronson Arcuri, Alyse Young; Production Assistant: Beck Harlan; Photo: Christina Ascani/NPR.

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276 comments

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2017 • 9:19:36pm

Steve Martin, a true Renaissance man. His banjo stuff is my favorite of his work.

And I’m going to show off my feathers, like a peacock.

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2017 • 9:20:59pm

From downstairs:

Poking around online and found out Intel has released their i9 processor. It has 10 cores and is hyperthreaded. It has a base speed of 3.3 GHz, but can be pushed to 4.5. It will handle up to 128GB of ram and has 44 PCI Express lanes.

amazon.com

Edited.

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austin_blue  Oct 6, 2017 • 9:28:54pm

Well, it was another gonzo day in Trumpworld.

Rex Tillerson still has a job! We still might bomb North Korea, or maybe back out of the Iran deal!

(who knows? it’s all a nudge and a wink.)

We have to remain focused. I know the shit comes at you so fast you can’t really encompass the enormity of the shitstorm, but we have to focus. Pick the salient point out of the enormity of the day and react to that.

Today was birth control. Really. That attack on women’s health was the H-bomb, and it will be lost in the shit unless we focus on it and kick back hard.

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electrotek  Oct 6, 2017 • 9:29:07pm

What a fucking stretch

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2017 • 9:33:26pm

re: #2 Belafon

And then you find out that AMD has a 16 core hyperthreaded processor. I’m glad I’m studying massive parallel programming and machine learning right now.

amazon.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2017 • 9:34:14pm

re: #4 electrotek

What a fucking stretch

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Surprisingly few people understand that Post hoc ergo propter hoc is a fallacy, not an argumen.

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austin_blue  Oct 6, 2017 • 9:42:27pm

On the other hand there is this, which will never happen, but should:

XTC - Melt the Guns - 1982

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TedStriker  Oct 6, 2017 • 9:49:05pm

Damn, Martin’s good.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 6, 2017 • 9:56:11pm

re: #8 TedStriker

Damn, Martin’s good.

He’s working on it for at least four decades. Even played with Earl Scruggs.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 6, 2017 • 10:20:01pm

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Kragar  Oct 6, 2017 • 10:25:35pm
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sagehen  Oct 6, 2017 • 10:41:47pm

Steve Martin has another Broadway musical opening soon:

I expect it will be awesome.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 6, 2017 • 10:57:03pm

Yeah, they used “booking.”
Lil’ Nate has done grown up, and is now a Cat 1 “booking” along at ~19kts
Nate has also veered from it’s projected path and taken up a more northerly movement

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2017 • 11:01:41pm

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 6, 2017 • 11:06:29pm
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austin_blue  Oct 6, 2017 • 11:08:13pm

Night all. See you tomorrow.

Hurricane Nate looks like it may explode over night.

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2017 • 11:08:15pm

re: #15 FormerDirtDart

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2017 • 11:13:46pm

re: #13 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, they used “booking.”
Lil’ Nate has done grown up, and is now a Cat 1 “booking” along at ~19kts
Nate has also veered from it’s projected path and taken up a more northerly movement

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We will be in the upper-right quadrant when it comes ashore—the “fun” quadrant.

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sagehen  Oct 6, 2017 • 11:35:31pm

re: #15 FormerDirtDart

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That’s New Jersey phrasing. In New York, it’s guinea.

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JordanRules  Oct 6, 2017 • 11:45:05pm

Cool article!

Secrets of the South
A weekend with the United Order of Tents, a semi-covert organization of black women.
lennyletter.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:25:46am

re: #13 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, they used “booking.”

What is the meteorological distinction between “booking” and “trucking”?

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sagehen  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:31:46am

Lin-Manuel Miranda’s Puerto Rico benefit record:

Lin-Manuel Miranda - Almost Like Praying feat Artists for Puerto Rico [Music Video]

What sounds like Spanish lyrics… is just naming all 78 cities/towns on the island.

performers include:
Marc Anthony, Ruben Blades, Camila Cabello, Pedro Capo, Dessa, Gloria Estefan, Fat Joe, Luis Fonsi, Juan Luis Guerra, Alex Lacamoire, John Leguizamo, Jennifer Lopez, Lin-Manuel Miranda, Rita Moreno, Ednita Nazario, Joell Ortiz, Anthony Ramos, Gina Rodriguez, Gilberto Santa Rosa, PJ Sin Suela, Tommy Torres, Ana Villafañe

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:50:46am

re: #19 sagehen

That’s New Jersey phrasing. In New York, it’s guinea.

Yeah, but the ‘Mooch is from Long Island. Which would suggest he is from the same species variant of the Homo Guinas genus, the Guidous Shoreous

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Nyet  Oct 7, 2017 • 1:02:23am

Compare the actual evidence presented with how our little Nazi sympathizer presents it.

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Nyet  Oct 7, 2017 • 1:11:25am

re: #24 Nyet

Seems like an epidemic. Do these folks have this damage on the organic level?

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Oct 7, 2017 • 1:13:37am

Using Kristallnacht as a password is satire.

Sure it is. Satire is really funny when you use it for something that nobody sees. LIke most right-wing humor, it has no point because it has no actual humor.

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Nyet  Oct 7, 2017 • 1:16:13am

re: #26 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

And the argument wasn’t even that German was used.

These people don’t have a single honest cell in their bodies.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Oct 7, 2017 • 1:18:09am

re: #24 Nyet

Compare the actual evidence presented with how our little Nazi sympathizer presents it.

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I’m not sure that I’d even ascribe anything as coherent as “Nazi sympathizer” to Milo. I don’t think he really has anything quite so coherent as a political philosophy, other than, “Hurt people, get famous, and make money by doing so. Be as nasty as you can be, because it feeds the deep hole in the soul that craves attention. And don’t ever, ever, under any circumstances, take any responsibility for your actions, or for all the harm you’re causing to people who aren’t harming you.”

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 7, 2017 • 1:21:26am

The only reason that health insurance companies don’t come out and openly insist on covering birth control in their plans at no additional charge is that they’re terrified of the religious right and know that the facts simply don’t matter to these people.

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Nyet  Oct 7, 2017 • 1:22:05am

re: #28 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

I haven’t called Milo a Nazi sympathizer. Rather the guy who regularly retweets Holocaust deniers and/or neo-Nazis.

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majii  Oct 7, 2017 • 1:45:08am

re: #25 Nyet

“Seems like an epidemic. Do these folks have this damage on the organic level?”

My dearly departed parents used to say, “Ways and actions speak louder than words.” Some persons are good at keeping really private thoughts hidden in public, but when they’re behind the scene among “friends,” their feelings about a whole lot of things come out. It reminds me of when Trump was talking to Billy Bush and shared his “grab them by the p***y comment. He let his true feelings about women come out because he thought he was with a “friend.”

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Nyet  Oct 7, 2017 • 1:51:19am

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electrotek  Oct 7, 2017 • 2:01:58am
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Nyet  Oct 7, 2017 • 2:21:34am
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electrotek  Oct 7, 2017 • 2:28:19am

re: #34 Nyet

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I swear, Iran focuses way too much emphasis on the hijab. Not even Pakistan does that at the official level!

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Lupin  Oct 7, 2017 • 2:59:16am

French-German public TV channel ARTE has just released a terrifying 52 mins documentary on Putin’s funding and manipulation of far-right political movements in Europe. Absolute must-see:

tv-programme

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2017 • 3:00:25am

re: #36 Lupin

French-German public TV channel ARTE has just released a terrifying 52 mins documentary on Putin’s funding and manipulation of far-right political movements in Europe. Absolute must-see:

tv-programme

nothing illegal about that as such, it is only illegal for citizens of the countries affected to collude with a foreign government.

But our leaders were only talking about adoption…

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Lupin  Oct 7, 2017 • 3:01:21am

Also on YouTube

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electrotek  Oct 7, 2017 • 3:06:20am

Sounds like she’s hoping someone attacks Coachella next year:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2017 • 3:09:15am

re: #39 electrotek

Regarding the Las Vegas shooting, one thing is VERY CLEAR! It was a politically motivated attack on the RIGHT. He didn’t shoot up Coachella!

Because Country Music is only for red-blooded, God-fearing, gun-toting. truck-driving true American Patriots, and has been so ever since the Dixie Chicks Purge of 2003…

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electrotek  Oct 7, 2017 • 3:20:58am

re: #40 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because Country Music is only for red-blooded, God-fearing, gun-toting. truck-driving true American Patriots, and has been so ever since the Dixie Chicks Purge of 2003…

lol right

I do remember that Coachella 2002 actually didn’t have trash cans because of fears of bombs being hidden there. Of course it was right after 9/11 but still.

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dangerman  Oct 7, 2017 • 3:28:57am

re: #39 electrotek

Sounds like she’s hoping someone attacks Coachella next year:

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these people are bone headed idiots.

that is all.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 4:21:32am

re: #27 Nyet

And the argument wasn’t even that German was used.

These people don’t have a single honest cell in their bodies.

Yes the banning of the Jews from his native England in 1290 was also in his passwords.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 4:23:48am

re: #39 electrotek

Sounds like she’s hoping someone attacks Coachella next year:

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FFS the guy liked country music himself. And I don’t know why conservatives think only they like country music. I guess someone never heard of a guy named John R. Cash.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2017 • 4:26:24am

re: #44 HappyWarrior

FFS the guy liked country music himself. And I don’t know why conservatives think only they like country music. I guess someone never heard of a guy named John R. Cash.

Country Music is all about arbitrary symbols that have grown attached to some people’s idea of Patriotism: family values, down-home, self-sufficiency, mother, fishing, trucks, guns, etc…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 4:29:40am

re: #45 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Country Music is all about arbitrary symbols that have grown attached to some people’s idea of Patriotism: family values, down-home, self-sufficiency, mother, fishing, trucks, guns, etc…

Well it can also be about injustice, the downtrodden, etc. Anyhow it seems simple to me, he picked a crowded large musical venue knowing there would be a lot of people. The music of the event is irrelevant.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2017 • 4:35:35am

re: #46 HappyWarrior

Well it can also be about injustice, the downtrodden, etc. Anyhow it seems simple to me, he picked a crowded large musical venue knowing there would be a lot of people. The music of the event is irrelevant.

It used to be about injustice and downtrodden. Now commercial country is about Christian Family Values…and fucking and drinking.

That struck me when wife came home with Toby Keith’s “White Trash With Money”, with a dedication to his Lord and Savior Jesus Christ on the back cover, and contained a song “Ain’t no Right Way to do the Wrong Thing”, a song about moral absolutism, and ended with “Running Block”, a song about having drunken sex with overweight women in a motel room…

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 7, 2017 • 4:37:43am

re: #35 electrotek

I swear, Iran focuses way too much emphasis on the hijab. Not even Pakistan does that at the official level!

These people are weirdly afraid of women’s hair.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 7, 2017 • 4:37:54am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 4:44:46am

re: #47 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It used to be about injustice and downtrodden. Now commercial country is about Christian Family Values…and fucking and drinking.

That struck me when wife came home with Toby Keith’s “White Trash With Money”, with a dedication to his Lord and Savior Jesus Christ on the back cover, and contained a song “Ain’t no Right Way to do the Wrong Thing”, a song about moral absolutism, and ended with “Running Block”, a song about having drunken sex with overweight women in a motel room…

Oh commercial country, yes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2017 • 4:46:30am

re: #50 HappyWarrior

Oh commercial country, yes.

There is a lot of country out there that goes way beyond those stereotypes…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 4:50:56am

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is a lot of country out there that goes way beyond those stereotypes…

Oh I know. I’m more into the outlaw and alternative sub genres. I didn’t like the way Toby Keith bullied the Dixie Chicks. Plus I think his songwriting is lazy.

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dangerman  Oct 7, 2017 • 4:54:59am

re: #39 electrotek

Sounds like she’s hoping someone attacks Coachella next year:

[Embedded content]Regarding the Las Vegas shooting, one thing is VERY CLEAR! It was a politically motivated attack on the RIGHT. He didn’t shoot up Coachella!

so many people post hoc put a lot more thought, nuance, analysis into some of this than may be warranted

unless they found some country music manifesto that i havent heard about yet - granted because i avoid all this news like, well, the plague, maybe, just maybe, the specific event - a concert - wasnt even relevant - let alone the “type” of music or even the kind of people expected to be there - as if a music concert as opposed to a political rally would be homogeneous

maybe the target selection was no more thought out than “large crowd, enclosed space, high vantage point to inflict the most carnage”

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dangerman  Oct 7, 2017 • 4:55:44am

re: #45 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Country Music is all about arbitrary symbols that have grown attached to some people’s idea of Patriotism: family values, down-home, self-sufficiency, mother, fishing, trucks, guns, etc…

dogs, tractors…

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dangerman  Oct 7, 2017 • 4:56:18am

re: #46 HappyWarrior

Well it can also be about injustice, the downtrodden, etc. Anyhow it seems simple to me, he picked a crowded large musical venue knowing there would be a lot of people. The music of the event is irrelevant.

once again, i should read first - especially the youngsters….they’re always on the ball

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2017 • 4:56:45am

re: #52 HappyWarrior

I didn’t like the way Toby Keith bullied the Dixie Chicks.

I guess they did not want to have drunken sex with him in a motel room…

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dangerman  Oct 7, 2017 • 4:58:43am

re: #47 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It used to be about injustice and downtrodden. Now commercial country is about Christian Family Values…and fucking and drinking.

That struck me when wife came home with Toby Keith’s “White Trash With Money”, with a dedication to his Lord and Savior Jesus Christ on the back cover, and contained a song “Ain’t no Right Way to do the Wrong Thing”, a song about moral absolutism, and ended with “Running Block”, a song about having drunken sex with overweight women in a motel room…

we’ve been talking the last few days how the use and definition of some words are changing over time- terrorism, moron, idiot etc

i submit “country music” - today’s has absolutely no relation to what it once was or whence it came

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2017 • 5:01:46am

Idiot speaks the truth:

Perry: ‘There is No Free Market in The Energy Industry’

Energy Secretary Rick Perry said Friday that his plan to subsidize the coal and nuclear industries won’t disrupt the market.

“I think it’s really important for people to understand, in general terms, there is no free market in the energy industry,” Perry said at a Veterans for Energy meeting, according to The Hill. “And anybody that gets up and says that is lying — is not, with all due respect, educated as to what the reality of the market is.”

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 7, 2017 • 5:02:01am

re: #57 dangerman

we’ve been talking the last few days how the use and definition of some words are changing over time- terrorism, moron, idiot etc

i submit “country music” - today’s has absolutely no relation to what it once was or whence it came

White people have destroyed country music.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 5:05:44am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I guess they did not want to have drunken sex with him in a motel room…

Ha there’s a visual.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 5:06:14am

re: #55 dangerman

once again, i should read first - especially the youngsters….they’re always on the ball

Great minds and all that.

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dangerman  Oct 7, 2017 • 5:28:35am

re: #61 HappyWarrior

Great minds and all that.

I’ve had way more time and practice burning up brain cells

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 7, 2017 • 5:35:40am

Poor Donny, nobody gets to ever hear his side of the story….

Bring the Fairness Doctrine back Donny, that’ll show those evil libtards!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 5:40:47am

re: #63 b.d. (bill d.)

Poor Donny, nobody gets to ever hear his side of the story….

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Bring the Fairness Doctrine back Donny, that’ll show those evil libtards!

Whines so damn much.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 7, 2017 • 5:42:19am

re: #7 austin_blue

Always updings for XTC.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 7, 2017 • 5:44:27am

re: #64 HappyWarrior

Whines so damn much.

I would love for those political shows be required to do equal time:


mediamatters.org
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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 5:45:38am

re: #66 b.d. (bill d.)

I would love for those political shows be required to do equal time:

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mediamatters.org

Yep but facts are alternative just ask KAC.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 7, 2017 • 5:51:11am

re: #67 HappyWarrior

Yep but facts are alternative just ask KAC.

Nancy Pelosi should reintroduce The Fairness Doctrine saying it is on Trump’s behalf.

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jeffreyw  Oct 7, 2017 • 6:01:02am

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Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2017 • 6:16:48am

re: #63 b.d. (bill d.)

More and more people are suggesting that Republicans (and me) should be given Equal Time on T.V. when you look at the one-sided coverage?

He is just jealous of the coverage that his friend Vladi gets on his TV networks…

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2017 • 6:35:15am
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jaunte  Oct 7, 2017 • 6:42:35am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2017 • 6:44:44am

re: #72 jaunte

A year ago, today, we found out that Trump had boasted about committing sexual assault—and it’s shameful that wasn’t a deal breaker for all.

It only made him more attractive to his base.

“Think of how stupid the average person is and then realize that half of the population is stupider than that.”

-George Carlin

Now imagine that the stupid half of the population controls more than half of the Electoral College and you have the recipe for Trumpism.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 6:45:49am

re: #72 jaunte

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But but Harvey Weinstein.//

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2017 • 6:48:47am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

While Republicans destroy reproductive healthcare for more than half the population, Harvey Weinstein becomes their tu quoque smokescreen.

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fern01  Oct 7, 2017 • 6:49:19am

re: #31 majii

“Seems like an epidemic. Do these folks have this damage on the organic level?”

My dearly departed parents used to say, “Ways and actions speak louder than words.” Some persons are good at keeping really private thoughts hidden in public, but when they’re behind the scene among “friends,” their feelings about a whole lot of things come out. It reminds me of when Trump was talking to Billy Bush and shared his “grab them by the p***y comment. He let his true feelings about women come out because he thought he was with a “friend.”

I am still in shock that based on this event Billy Bush was fired - trump was elected President.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2017 • 6:49:29am

re: #71 jaunte

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apparently, he is upset that people are making fun of him:

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2017 • 6:51:53am

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s no “fair treatment” possible with Trump. His sickness sucks up stadiums full of approval and it just fuels the need for more.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2017 • 6:52:29am
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jaunte  Oct 7, 2017 • 6:57:04am
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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2017 • 6:58:58am

re: #58 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Idiot speaks the truth:

Perry: ‘There is No Free Market in The Energy Industry’

Energy Secretary Rick Perry said Friday that his plan to subsidize the coal and nuclear industries won’t disrupt the market.

“I think it’s really important for people to understand, in general terms, there is no free market in the energy industry,” Perry said at a Veterans for Energy meeting, according to The Hill. “And anybody that gets up and says that is lying — is not, with all due respect, educated as to what the reality of the market is.”

Same people who spent 8 years constantly ragging upon the Solyndra loan as “proof” that gov’t loans don’t work…now insist that we need to loan coal and nuclear industries gov’t money because those will totally result in dividends.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:00:22am

re: #80 jaunte

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Exactly. It’s because he’s a big Democratic donor that the right is all up in arms.

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:00:39am

re: #63 b.d. (bill d.)

Poor Donny, nobody gets to ever hear his side of the story….

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Bring the Fairness Doctrine back Donny, that’ll show those evil libtards!

Trump at the “please clap” stage of his presidency.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:00:53am

re: #81 Targetpractice

Same people who spent 8 years constantly ragging upon the Solyndra loan as “proof” that gov’t loans don’t work…now insist that we need to loan coal and nuclear industries gov’t money because those will totally result in dividends.

That’s different. // Coal and Nooklear are ‘Merican. None of this solar commie crap.

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sagehen  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:07:33am

re: #81 Targetpractice

Same people who spent 8 years constantly ragging upon the Solyndra loan as “proof” that gov’t loans don’t work…now insist that we need to loan coal and nuclear industries gov’t money because those will totally result in dividends.

These aren’t loans to coal and nuclear industries — they’re outright subsidies. They don’t have to be paid back.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:07:37am

re: #15 FormerDirtDart

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Better check it out. Sounds like the perfect cover for a child sex ring operation.

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:08:47am

re: #85 sagehen

These aren’t loans to coal and nuclear industries — they’re outright subsidies. They don’t have to be paid back.

Ayep, shoveling money at a problem with the expectation of positive results. Isn’t that what wingnuts constantly insist is all that “libruls” do?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:10:02am

re: #87 Targetpractice

Ayep, shoveling money at a problem with the expectation of positive results. Isn’t that what wingnuts constantly insist is all that “libruls” do?

Wouldn’t be a day ending in day without wingnut projection.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:12:01am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:12:07am

Police were called at 1421 on Saturday, 7 October to reports of a collision in Exhibition Road, South Kensington.

It is believed that a number of pedestrians have been injured.

Officers are on scene, and the London Ambulance Service have been called.

A man (no further dets) has been detained at the scene.

Enquiries to establish the circumstances and motive are underway.

If you have any information about this incident, please call 101.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:12:51am
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dangerman  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:14:19am

re: #73 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It only made him more attractive to his base.

“Think of how stupid the average person is and then realize that half of the population is stupider than that.”

-George Carlin

Now imagine that the stupid half of the population controls more than half of the Electoral College and you have the recipe for Trumpism.

i know how the math works

i still say that more than half of the population is stupider than that

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:19:16am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:19:22am
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jaunte  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:20:28am
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jaunte  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:22:12am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:22:35am

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Shocker.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:24:08am

re: #96 jaunte

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Seems to me, Dumbo Jr that you and Weinstein paid off the same DA. Hmmmmm! And yeah Weinstein is a scumbag but so is your Dad and he unlike Weinstein is POTUS.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:30:21am

re: #81 Targetpractice

Same people who spent 8 years constantly ragging upon the Solyndra loan as “proof” that gov’t loans don’t work…now insist that we need to loan coal and nuclear industries gov’t money because those will totally result in dividends.

There is no Free Market in Agriculture, Education or the Health Care Industry, and those, together with Energy, make up a sizable chunk of the economy.

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:30:42am

Men who spend the rest of the time in their day defending sexual predators by denigrating women suddenly decide that being a sexual predator is a negative quality…so long as you can be used as a club against Democrats.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:31:31am

re: #100 Targetpractice

Men who spend the rest of the time in their day defending sexual predators by denigrating women suddenly decide that being a sexual predator is a negative quality…so long as you can be used as a club against Democrats.

Nailed it.

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:36:05am
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Ace-o-aces  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:38:36am
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jaunte  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:40:47am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:40:51am

re: #102 jaunte

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Your network was literally run by a sexual harasser. Shut the fuck up FNC. Many of your employees praised Ailes.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:41:08am

re: #104 jaunte

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Ha!

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makeitstop  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:41:25am

Trump tweeted about ‘equal time’ at 8:00.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:41:29am

Greetings from the Nate Red Zone.

I’ll be leaving work at lunch today. We’ll be closed all day tomorrow. Got a bit of last minute prep to do but all the important stuff is done.

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:42:39am

re: #107 makeitstop

Isn’t this a signal for conservatives to start up a conservative comedy channel?

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:43:22am

“The Punching Down Show”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:44:11am

re: #109 jaunte

Isn’t this a signal for conservatives to start up a conservative comedy channel?

[sideshow Bob shudder]

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:44:14am

re: #39 electrotek

Sounds like she’s hoping someone attacks Coachella next year:

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:44:19am

“The Power Will Tell You What’s Truth Hour”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:45:10am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:46:09am

re: #107 makeitstop

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Trump tweeted about ‘equal time’ at 8:00.

Waaah.

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:47:06am

re: #102 jaunte

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A network that refers to boasting about sexual harassment and borderline rape as “locker room talk,” that defended three sexual predators/abusers (Ailes, O’Reilly, & Bolling) right up until they were canned, that constantly questions reports of campus rape and argues that most victims are liars, and has not met a conservative sexual scandal that it was interested in covering, wants to pass judgment on anybody associated with Harvey Weinstein based upon nothing more than accusations because he’s a donor to Democrats.

Color me shocked.//////

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:47:09am

re: #109 jaunte

Isn’t this a signal for conservatives to start up a conservative comedy channel?

I still remember FNC’s attempt at the Daily Show. Man that was painful to watch. Michael Moore is fat lol!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:47:40am

Whatever you do today, do not google “pimple cupcakes”. Good day!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:48:08am

re: #107 makeitstop

Trump tweeted about ‘equal time’ at 8:00.

Television reporting on television and President tweeting on TV reporting…

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:48:16am

re: #117 HappyWarrior

I still remember FNC’s attempt at the Daily Show. Man that was painful to watch. Michael Moore is fat lol!

The people who thought Ann Coulter was comic gold.

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sagehen  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:48:24am

re: #98 HappyWarrior

Seems to me, Dumbo Jr that you and Weinstein paid off the same DA. Hmmmmm! And yeah Weinstein is a scumbag but so is your Dad and he unlike Weinstein is POTUS.

But Weinstein only paid 1/2 as much; guess he’s a better negotiator and dealmaker.

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:48:52am

Under the smokescreen, they’re taking away birth control.

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:49:48am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:50:15am

re: #120 Targetpractice

The people who thought Ann Coulter was comic gold.

And think Limbaugh/Milo are satirists.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:50:38am

re: #121 sagehen

But Weinstein only paid 1/2 as much; guess he’s a better negotiator and dealmaker.

Saw that lol.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:52:54am

Good Morning from Los Angeles. How is everyone, what with storm prep and Nero in charge?

It’s a warm nice day and I’m taking my Dad to a mountain park. 88 and still strong bless his soul.

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2017 • 7:53:09am

“We’re against abortion, not birth control! We’ll never take that from you!”

“Well, okay, I guess I can vote for you.”

“Thanks. Oh, by the way, birth control access is now limited based upon religious and moral grounds. If you can’t afford it yourself, you’re SOL.”

“Wait, you said you wouldn’t take away birth control!”

“I’m not, I’m just limiting your access to it. You didn’t care when I did the same thing to abortion, I figured you were cool with that.”

“But I don’t need an abortion, I need birth control pills!”

“Then pay for them yourself, provided your pharmacist doesn’t have a moral or religious objection to filling your prescription.”

“This is ridiculous! I suppose you’re gonna tell me next I can’t expect prenatal or child care coverage in my health insurance plan.”

“Yeah, about that…”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 7, 2017 • 8:00:18am

re: #107 makeitstop

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Trump tweeted about ‘equal time’ at 8:00.

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sagehen  Oct 7, 2017 • 8:02:10am

The fairness doctrine was only for stations that broadcast over the public airways; never applied to cable.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 7, 2017 • 8:04:39am

re: #35 electrotek

I swear, Iran focuses way too much emphasis on the hijab. Not even Pakistan does that at the official level!

That religious plus secular government (I think bifurcated) from my view is one odd bird. The power seems to sway from more religious to more secular, leaving certain citizen in a rather cyclical furor. Had long talks with Iranian expats over the years. Mostly Jewish men who came here with family.

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Citizen K  Oct 7, 2017 • 8:05:23am

re: #11 Kragar

How did defending Nazis become mainstream? I don’t even mean in the Godwin sense, or even the ACLU’s ‘defending speech you still deplore’, but defending actual literal Nazi beliefs or avowed Nazis as somehow more decent people than (insert generic Liberal name here)? HOw have we fucking come to this, that Nazism has become actually re-mainstreamed?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 8:15:46am

re: #131 Citizen K

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How did defending Nazis become mainstream? I don’t even mean in the Godwin sense, or even the ACLU’s ‘defending speech you still deplore’, but defending actual literal Nazi beliefs or avowed Nazis as somehow more decent people than (insert generic Liberal name here)? HOw have we fucking come to this, that Nazism has become actually re-mainstreamed?

I think sadly part of it is the actual memory of the Nazis becoming more distant. When I was a kid, our grandfathers or great uncles had all been WWII vets. Some were liberal, some conservative but all proud of their role in the Axis defeat.

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Citizen K  Oct 7, 2017 • 8:24:54am

re: #132 HappyWarrior

I think sadly part of it is the actual memory of the Nazis becoming more distant. When I was a kid, our grandfathers or great uncles had all been WWII vets. Some were liberal, some conservative but all proud of their role in the Axis defeat.

I’d buy that if it was just the label or trying to ‘reclaim’ the Swastika or something. Misguided as all hell maybe, but sure. But this is the entire ideology coming to bear and becoming accepted again. This isn’t looking at a figure like Rommel and admiring his career while still decrying his part in the Nazi regime, this is mainstreaming the whole nostalgia for everything from hating Jews, to admiring the ‘Final Solution’ to demands of racial purity and bullshit, without even coding or dog whistling anymore. It’s open nostalgia for Nazism in all aspects, from aesthetics to ideology.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 7, 2017 • 8:26:15am

re: #132 HappyWarrior

The studio releasing Dunkirk had to arrange for documentaries about Dunkirk to run. Otherwise nobody had the context of the title. Very sad. I would guess more recent wars play more prominently in school texts, but not sure.

At this point of course granddad fought not in WW2, nor Korea. But todays grandfathers either did not serve, or served in the liberation of Kuwait. If Dad has war stories, they are from the long war. WW2 feels like 1890 for the young.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 8:26:27am

re: #133 Citizen K

I’d buy that if it was just the label or trying to ‘reclaim’ the Swastika or something. Misguided as all hell maybe, but sure. But this is the entire ideology coming to bear and becoming accepted again. This isn’t looking at a figure like Rommel and admiring his career while still decrying his part in the Nazi regime, this is mainstreaming the whole nostalgia for everything from hating Jews, to admiring the ‘Final Solution’ to demands of racial purity and bullshit, without even coding or dog whistling anymore. It’s open nostalgia for Nazism in all aspects, from aesthetics to ideology.

True. It stumps me too.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 8:29:06am

re: #134 Unshaken Defiance

The studio releasing Dunkirk had to arrange for documentaries about Dunkirk to run. Otherwise nobody had the context of the title. Very sad. I would guess more recent wars play more prominently in school texts, but not sure.

At this point of course granddad fought not in WW2, nor Korea. But todays grandfathers either did not serve, or served in the liberation of Kuwait. If Dad has war stories, they are from the long war. WW2 feels like 1890 for the young.

Yeah WWII for me anyhow never felt distant. I remember my grandparents talking about it and three of my dad’s older siblings were born during the war. I dunno. Just sad that people have forgotten. I’ve been to two concentration camp sites now and it always makes me tear up inside.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2017 • 8:30:05am

alt-right was sold to us as just another point on the political spectrum. even when they showed us their true colors repeatedly, and violently, as in Charlottesville, people in power (namely our own President) still refused to call them what they are: anathema to American values and a threat to American democracy.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 7, 2017 • 8:30:31am

re: #133 Citizen K

My take is this is a genuine play by those that actually want to embrace and act on supremacist ways. It’s an ill rise of power. The logos vary, the terribly dangerous way they treat fellow humans is terrifying. Confederate or Nazi or White Christian fundie. Over history, it usually takes blood spilled to stop that kind of thing. The blood of supremacists after first spilling of ours.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 7, 2017 • 8:31:27am

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

alt-right was sold to us as just another point on the political spectrum. even when they showed us their true colors repeatedly, and violently, as in Charlottesville, people still refused to call them what they are: anathema to American values and a threat to American democracy.

Anti American.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 8:33:50am

Then again Spencer is a Gen Xer. I dunno. This whole thing frustrates me.

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Citizen K  Oct 7, 2017 • 8:35:26am

re: #138 Unshaken Defiance

My take is this is a genuine play by those that actually want to embrace and act on supremacist ways. It’s an ill rise of power. The logos vary, the terribly dangerous way they treat fellow humans is terrifying. Confederate or Nazi or White Christian fundie. Over history, it usually takes blood spilled to stop that kind of thing. The blood of supremacists after first spilling of ours.

Thing is I’m not sure it’s even a play anymore. It feels like they already made their play and succeeded far beyond what they hoped. That they found that America, at it’s core, really is far more racist and accepting of racism than they realized and now are rushing to take advantage of that fact. Look just how fast this shit has moved, and look how swiftly people have acted to ‘well, actually’ people decrying Nazis, white supremacists, etc. Look how swiftly PoCs have been demonized yet the perpetrator of the largest mass shooting in US history is fading from the news cycle and the NRA remains utterly lodged still in power.

They’re winning. They’re winning because no matter how many people won’t admit it, they love this shit and if they don’t outright support it, then they’re willing to turn a blind eye to it, because PoCs AREN”T AMERICANS. They never were. Women AREN’T AMERICANS. They’re property, and some women like it that way.

This is fucking America, and it’s not ‘America now’, but what it apparently always was.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 7, 2017 • 8:40:00am

re: #141 Citizen K

They have their President, now they assert and try to maintain. Every dog has it’s day. This will get put right. I worry about the cost in lives, but not the fact it will happen. imho of course.

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Citizen K  Oct 7, 2017 • 8:41:15am

This is pretty much the problem. They already have all the power, and are doing their damnedest to roll everything fucking back to the point even taking back the gov’t may not be feasible at this point. We may not have rights left enough to take it back, and if by any chance we do take it back, it’ll take generations to do so, generations we won’t be given because that nostalgia and love affair America has for the GOP and instant treatment of validity over anything Dems can offer will give them back power again to fuck everything up and ensure it remains No Country for PoCs or Women.

EDIT: Just…christ. Someone talk me off the fucking ledge here. I’m seeing shit that no one thought could ever happen even in the worst aftermath of 9/11 and now it’s immediately mainstreamed to the point I’m fearing for goddamn literal purges. Hell, ICE seems already damn well on their way to making that a reality too. Just…fuck….

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 7, 2017 • 8:42:10am
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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2017 • 8:43:40am

Michigan puts into practice what critics have been warning about for years:

In 2008, a young girl is kidnapped and held for 2 days, being repeatedly raped by an 18 yr old man who threatens to kill her if she tries to escape. A month after her rescue, the rapist is charged, offered a plea deal that drops a potential life sentence down to 1 year in jail, then let out after 6 months because of his mother’s health. He goes on to do 4 years for raping another girl between 13-15 years old a year later.

Rape victim finds out she’s pregnant, and rather than following parental and friendly advice chooses to carry the child rather than seek an abortion. She drops out of school, moves to live with family friends, and works to care for her child. 9 years later, the state of Michigan decides to investigate her application for welfare benefits, then looks into who the father is so they can stick him with child support payments and the bill for the child’s welfare benefits.

After finding out about the woman’s circumstances, the county prosecutor and county judge run a DNA test and determine that rapist is the child’s father. They lie that they had the mother’s consent in order to pass rulings that the rapist deserves joint custody and visitation rights, order the mother to move back home to within 100 miles of where the filing took place, and threaten her with contempt of court if she refuses to comply. The judge also ordered that the mother’s home address be provided to the rapist and his name added to the birth certificate.

But no, there’s no war on women./////

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 8:47:29am

re: #145 Targetpractice

Michigan puts into practice what critics have been warning about for years:

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In 2008, a young girl is kidnapped and held for 2 days, being repeatedly raped by an 18 yr old man who threatens to kill her if she tries to escape. A month after her rescue, the rapist is charged, offered a plea deal that drops a potential life sentence down to 1 year in jail, then let out after 6 months because of his mother’s health. He goes on to do 4 years for raping another girl between 13-15 years old a year later.

Rape victim finds out she’s pregnant, and rather than following parental and friendly advice chooses to carry the child rather than seek an abortion. She drops out of school, moves to live with family friends, and works to care for her child. 9 years later, the state of Michigan decides to investigate her application for welfare benefits, then looks into who the father is so they can stick him with child support payments and the bill for the child’s welfare benefits.

After finding out about the woman’s circumstances, the county prosecutor and county judge run a DNA test and determine that rapist is the child’s father. They lie that they had the mother’s consent in order to pass rulings that the rapist deserves joint custody and visitation rights, order the mother to move back home to within 100 miles of where the filing took place, and threaten her with contempt of court if she refuses to comply. The judge also ordered that the mother’s home address be provided to the rapist and his name added to the birth certificate.

But no, there’s no war on women./////

WTF. Is this Saudi fucking Arabia?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2017 • 8:50:57am

re: #145 Targetpractice

Michigan judge grants joint custody to child rapist after food stamp inquiry connects him to victim

There are plenty of grounds for denying custody: domestic violence, drug abuse, etc. I would think that raping the child’s mother would be on that list as well…

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ObserverArt  Oct 7, 2017 • 8:55:23am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

WTF. Is this Saudi fucking Arabia?

No this is Fundi Christian America.

We might be trying to be worse.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 7, 2017 • 8:59:42am

re: #143 Citizen K

*jaw hanging open* Angry words withheld. That’s the kind of thing that can touch off a violent act. Because there is one terrible way to end the rapists um, ugh… “rights”.

re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are plenty of grounds for denying custody: domestic violence, drug abuse, etc. I would think that raping the child’s mother would be on that list as well…

Ah but the state now has an interest in this reading of the law. Dollars and pride. The Prosecutors lied about consent? That should be full stop, fruit of poisoned tree kinda thing. Wrong on so many many levels, we can not count on laws we normally expect to fix this.

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Belafon  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:04:26am

re: #143 Citizen K

It’s happening. We can’t undo time, no matter how much we try. All we can do right now is resist, organize, and recover. And we need all hands to do it.

And hopefully the ACLU will be suing Wisconsin soon. That’s what I’m paying them for.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:05:27am

re: #148 ObserverArt

No this is Fundi Christian America.

We might be trying to be worse.

They’re using The Handmaid’s Tale as a playbook

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:07:05am

re: #149 Unshaken Defiance

*jaw hanging open* Angry words withheld. That’s the kind of thing that can touch off a violent act. Because there is one terrible way to end the rapists um, ugh… “rights”.

Ah but the state now has an interest in this reading of the law. Dollars and pride. The Prosecutors lied about consent? That should be full stop, fruit of poisoned tree kinda thing. Wrong on so many many levels, we can not count on laws we normally expect to fix this.

I can see them demanding support from the rapist father, but I do not see how or why they should grant him visitation or custody rights.

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:07:22am

re: #149 Unshaken Defiance

*jaw hanging open* Angry words withheld. That’s the kind of thing that can touch off a violent act. Because there is one terrible way to end the rapists um, ugh… “rights”.

Ah but the state now has an interest in this reading of the law. Dollars and pride. The Prosecutors lied about consent? That should be full stop, fruit of poisoned tree kinda thing. Wrong on so many many levels, we can not count on laws we normally expect to fix this.

Indeed, the county and state have a financial interest in this ruling, since the cash-strapped Republican majority is looking for any way they can to pass the buck. We’ve heard a similar thinking in other states, forcing single mothers to name the father so he could be DNA tested and (if the test proved positive) saddled with child support payments to get the mother off welfare.

This county just put it into practice, and now will argue in the courts that it doesn’t matter how the kid was conceived, the rapist has an obligation to provide for this child and thus rights as a father. That way the state can toss her off the welfare rolls and leave her to expect child support payments from a deadbeat who probably can’t hold a job due to being a sexual predator.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:09:22am

re: #153 Targetpractice

Words fail. I’ll see you guys later.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:12:23am

re: #148 ObserverArt

No this is Fundi Christian America.

We might be trying to be worse.

True. Just horrible to see this in our let alone any society.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:19:02am

Hi Lizards.

I’ve spent my morning so far productively. Smashed my 5k PR by 5 minutes.

Now get to go back to bed, right?

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BeachDem  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:19:36am

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

apparently, he is upset that people are making fun of him:

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Hurricanes, mass murderers, international upheaval—and the fucking yam is tweeting about comedians and ratings. I just can’t.

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sagehen  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:20:52am

re: #152 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I can see them demanding support from the rapist father, but I do not see how or why they should grant him visitation or custody rights.

It’s super-scary, and life-threatening, to give him her address. She should now be entitled to full-scale relocation and witness protection.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:24:31am

re: #153 Targetpractice

Indeed, the county and state have a financial interest in this ruling, since the cash-strapped Republican majority is looking for any way they can to pass the buck. We’ve heard a similar thinking in other states, forcing single mothers to name the father so he could be DNA tested and (if the test proved positive) saddled with child support payments to get the mother off welfare.

This county just put it into practice, and now will argue in the courts that it doesn’t matter how the kid was conceived, the rapist has an obligation to provide for this child and thus rights as a father. That way the state can toss her off the welfare rolls and leave her to expect child support payments from a deadbeat who probably can’t hold a job due to being a sexual predator.

IIRC, last year Illinois tried to pass a law that forces single moms to name names if they apply for food stamps or any other safety net benefit. Doesn’t matter if she was impregnated by an unknown rapist…if she can’t/won’t name someone as the father, she’s SoL and on her own. Oh, and no birth certificate for the child.
Far as I know, the proposed legislation is in limbo for now.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:24:51am

re: #158 sagehen

It’s super-scary, and life-threatening, to give him her address. She should now be entitled to full-scale relocation and witness protection.

If she were living where women were not chattel, yes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:30:59am

ummmm…what in the…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:32:44am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

ummmm…what in the…

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:33:06am

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

IIRC, last year Illinois tried to pass a law that forces single moms to name names if they apply for food stamps or any other safety net benefit. Doesn’t matter if she was impregnated by an unknown rapist…if she can’t/won’t name someone as the father, she’s SoL and on her own. Oh, and no birth certificate for the child.
Far as I know, the proposed legislation is in limbo for now.

I’m sure when they hear this case there, they’ll begin to feel a bit better about pushing forward. The present judicial environment is such that wingnut lawyers and judges will feel safe ruling their personal views rather than what the law actually says.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:33:27am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

ummmm…what in the…

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I thought tattoos were bad according to Ted’s bible.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:34:56am
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I cannot.  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:35:05am

Dear Marvel: Fuck this shit

graphicpolicy.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:36:57am
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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:39:10am

re: #166 I cannot.

Dear Marvel: Fuck this shit

graphicpolicy.com

You’re a company making billions a year off a character whose backstory is that he’s the CEO of a company that once made military arms until he got a firsthand look at the human cost, after which he ended all such production and dedicated himself and his company to humanitarian works…and so you feel the best idea is to team up with a major weapons manufacturer.

Brilliant./////

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mmmirele  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:39:30am

re: #149 Unshaken Defiance

*jaw hanging open* Angry words withheld. That’s the kind of thing that can touch off a violent act. Because there is one terrible way to end the rapists um, ugh… “rights”.

Ah but the state now has an interest in this reading of the law. Dollars and pride. The Prosecutors lied about consent? That should be full stop, fruit of poisoned tree kinda thing. Wrong on so many many levels, we can not count on laws we normally expect to fix this.

The victim was TWELVE when this happened. TWELVE. Under no state law would she have been able to consent to sex. So there’s no lying about consent, there can be no legal consent from a TWELVE YEAR OLD.

Grrrrr.

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BeachDem  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:40:42am

re: #153 Targetpractice

Indeed, the county and state have a financial interest in this ruling, since the cash-strapped Republican majority is looking for any way they can to pass the buck. We’ve heard a similar thinking in other states, forcing single mothers to name the father so he could be DNA tested and (if the test proved positive) saddled with child support payments to get the mother off welfare.

This county just put it into practice, and now will argue in the courts that it doesn’t matter how the kid was conceived, the rapist has an obligation to provide for this child and thus rights as a father. That way the state can toss her off the welfare rolls and leave her to expect child support payments from a deadbeat who probably can’t hold a job due to being a sexual predator.

IANAL, but I was under the impression that child support and custody/visitation are usually handled as separate issues.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:42:32am

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Donald does know there’s a photo of his father and step mom with Weinstein right? I don’t even think Kimmel would know Weinstein. He’s a film producer and JK is a tv guy.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:43:04am

The ‘Both Sidesism’ in this is overwhelming:

I’m struggling to see a point. At this point, Weinstein is pretty much persona non grata in Dem circles, and it’s not clear what return path there is for him.

OTOH, Trump in 2011 was just starting his big appeal to Republicans that resulted in them choosing him as their nominee and eventually elected him.

Furthermore, the average Democrat (like, say, me) never heard of Harvey Weinstein, whereas Trump was already known as an asshole, womanizer, bankrupt, sleazy businessman to every man on the street for 20 years.

So, unless Burns is suggesting we’re gonna elect Weinstein President in 2020, what’s his point?

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:44:09am

re: #169 mmmirele

The victim was TWELVE when this happened. TWELVE. Under no state law would she have been able to consent to sex. So there’s no lying about consent, there can be no legal consent from a TWELVE YEAR OLD.

Grrrrr.

The question of consent was to the court proceedings (including the DNA test) this past year. She’s 21 now, but was 12 at the time she was raped. Her lawyer is challenging the ruling on the grounds that her client never gave consent in either verbal or written form. The state will likely massage the law to say that they didn’t need her consent, they were “acting in the best interests of the child” or some such nonsense to say they could force her compliance.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:45:47am

re: #171 HappyWarrior

Donald does know there’s a photo of his father and step mom with Weinstein right? I don’t even think Kimmel would know Weinstein. He’s a film producer and JK is a tv guy.

#FakeNews
#Photoshopped!!!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:46:46am

re: #172 Blind Frog Belly White

The ‘Both Sidesism’ in this is overwhelming:

[Embedded content]

I’m struggling to see a point. At this point, Weinstein is pretty much persona non grata in Dem circles, and it’s not clear what return path there is for him.

OTOH, Trump in 2011 was just starting his big appeal to Republicans that resulted in them choosing him as their nominee and eventually elected him.

Furthermore, the average Democrat (like, say, me) never heard of Harvey Weinstein, whereas Trump was already known as an asshole, womanizer, bankrupt, sleazy businessman to every man on the street for 20 years.

So, unless Burns is suggesting we’re gonna elect Weinstein President in 2020, what’s his point?

No one in Dem circles has suggested Weinstein run for president or excused his actions. Meanwhile Trump has had Republicans making excuses for his treatment of women as President.

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:46:54am

re: #170 BeachDem

IANAL, but I was under the impression that child support and custody/visitation are usually handled as separate issues.

The big tell was the judge ordering the rapist’s name put on the birth certificate. Even if the guy’s parental rights are stripped by a higher court, the damage has been done because he’s now legally considered the kid’s father. So the state and county can go after him for child support payments while tossing her off welfare.

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JordanRules  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:50:46am

re: #171 HappyWarrior

Hollywood is Hollywood, I’m sure Kimmel knows him like tons of people in the business do. Miramax and The Weinstein Company have done TV deals as well. Of course none of that matters ultimately, but the entertainment business is very intertwined.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:51:44am

re: #177 JordanRules

Hollywood is Hollywood, I’m sure Kimmel knows him like tons of people in the business do. Miramax and The Weinstein Company have done TV deals as well. Of course none of that matters ultimately, but the entertainment business is very intertwined.

That’s true.

179
goddamnedfrank  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:52:50am

Stupid NYT both sides dumbfuckery.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:53:23am

The scion of locker room talk and nasty woman and who insulted Alicia Machado should shut up about women bring mistreated.

181
Skip Intro  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:54:55am

Game about killing Nazis gets pushback from American Nazis. Only in Trump’s America.

Bethesda: Anti-Nazi game wasn’t meant to “incite political discussions”

Games Industry reached out to Bethesda marketing VP Pete Hines to discuss the matter, and he had nothing in the way of apology or concession to any of the ad campaign’s dissenters. “Wolfenstein has been a decidedly anti-Nazi series since the first release more than 20 years ago,” Hines told GI. “We aren’t going to shy away from what the game is about. We don’t feel it’s a reach for us to say Nazis are bad and un-American, and we’re not worried about being on the right side of history here.”

arstechnica.com

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2017 • 9:56:13am

re: #179 goddamnedfrank

Stupid NYT both sides dumbfuckery.

[Embedded content]

Exactly. When Trump was going after Obama in 2011, Republicans didn’t allow sexual allegations made against him to dissuade them from wrapping themselves around him. They never denounced him, certainly didn’t break off associations with him, and readily accepted him as a party candidate 4 years later.

Right now, there are no Democrats rushing to Weinstein’s defense but instead are all trying to put distance between them and him. That’s why the “Both Sides” crowd and wingnuts alike have had to settle for his campaign donations as a means of attacking Dem associations with him.

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:06:26am
184
electrotek  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:11:41am

When news broke out, I thought they were talking about Harvey Fierstein.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:13:07am

re: #182 Targetpractice

Exactly. When Trump was going after Obama in 2011, Republicans didn’t allow sexual allegations made against him to dissuade them from wrapping themselves around him. They never denounced him, certainly didn’t break off associations with him, and readily accepted him as a party candidate 4 years later.

Right now, there are no Democrats rushing to Weinstein’s defense but instead are all trying to put distance between them and him. That’s why the “Both Sides” crowd and wingnuts alike have had to settle for his campaign donations as a means of attacking Dem associations with him.

It is a tool to attack Democrats and distract. Do not expect them to leave it alone.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:13:22am

re: #181 Skip Intro

Game about killing Nazis gets pushback from American Nazis. Only in Trump’s America.

Bethesda: Anti-Nazi game wasn’t meant to “incite political discussions”

arstechnica.com

They’re throwing a bitchfit about WOLFENSTEIN?!?

Oh my God, what a bunch of snowflakes. Seriously.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:14:04am

re: #186 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

They’re throwing a bitchfit about WOLFENSTEIN?!?

Oh my God, what a bunch of snowflakes. Seriously.

Yep they seriously are. Because the Nazis as bad guys is so offensive.

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MsJ  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:14:11am

re: #184 electrotek

When news broke out, I thought they were talking about Harvey Fierstein.

Me, too. I was like “Well that seems…odd.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:14:36am

re: #187 HappyWarrior

Yep they seriously are. Because the Nazis as bad guys is so offensive.

So when are they going to start bitching about Indiana Jones?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:17:14am
191
goddamnedfrank  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:17:56am

re: #186 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

They’re throwing a bitchfit about WOLFENSTEIN?!?

Oh my God, what a bunch of snowflakes. Seriously.

They’re forcing me to pre-order it.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:18:50am

re: #191 goddamnedfrank

They’re forcing me to pre-order it.

I’m thinking I need to add a late entry to my birthday wish list.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:23:17am

re: #169 mmmirele

The victim was TWELVE when this happened. TWELVE. Under no state law would she have been able to consent to sex. So there’s no lying about consent, there can be no legal consent from a TWELVE YEAR OLD.

Grrrrr.

Agreed of course, but was responding to this part about consent to the DNA test

After finding out about the woman’s circumstances, the county prosecutor and county judge run a DNA test and determine that rapist is the child’s father. They lie that they had the mother’s consent in order to pass rulings

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I cannot.  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:24:46am

re: #192 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It will be an early gift from my War on Christmas List, I have property taxes due next month…so not much fun in Octoboo.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:27:22am

re: #194 I cannot.

It will be an early gift from my War on Christmas List, I have property taxes due next month…so not much fun in Octoboo.

I haven’t even thought about Christmas yet. Usually, with Christmas, I put things on my list that are more practical and shared between myself and Mrs. Fish. I reserve selfish gifts for my birthday.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:28:33am

re: #189 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

So when are they going to start bitching about Indiana Jones?

Isn’t there one coming out in a couple years?

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I cannot.  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:29:19am
198
Unshaken Defiance  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:30:45am

Going to write this guy today.

“Republicans in Congress asking the ATF to create more (and stricter) gun laws from existing laws is a bad idea,” tweeted Representative Thomas Massie of Kentucky, who leads the Second Amendment Caucus. A ban on bump stocks, he wrote, “is a red herring that would lead to ban of other firearms and accessories.”

theatlantic.com

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plansbandc  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:31:11am

Fantastic music!! May be my most favorite Tiny Desk yet.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:32:20am

re: #197 I cannot.

[Embedded content]

Um……

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:33:38am

re: #181 Skip Intro

Game about killing Nazis gets pushback from American Nazis. Only in Trump’s America.

Bethesda: Anti-Nazi game wasn’t meant to “incite political discussions”

arstechnica.com

Rightwing media has spent years insisting to wingnut snowflakes that “Nazi” is a pejorative used by “libruls” to attack all that is good and right with conservatism in America. With Trump in office, that shit has had rocket fuel dumped on it so now the wingnuts see anything uses the word “Nazi” as an attack on them personally. Mix that with the Nazis in The New Colossus having turned America into the Norman Rockwell/Leave It To Beaver world that wingnut think was paradise and you’ve got a rancid cocktail that will lead to a lot of bitching about “SJWs” and “politicization.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:33:46am

re: #197 I cannot.

[Embedded content]

Hahaha.

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JordanRules  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:33:54am
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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:35:27am

re: #198 Unshaken Defiance

Going to write this guy today.

theatlantic.com

Never let it be said that Republicans are totally against recycling. Here they are, recycling post-Newtown talking points into now post-Vegas talking points. Can’t argue that bump stocks are harmless or that they are a major violation of the spirit of the NFA, so argue that banning them is a “red herring” and a way to pass “gun bans.”

205
Skip Intro  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:35:32am

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:36:02am

re: #201 Targetpractice

Rightwing media has spent years insisting to wingnut snowflakes that “Nazi” is a pejorative used by “libruls” to attack all that is good and right with conservatism in America. With Trump in office, that shit has had rocket fuel dumped on it so now the wingnuts see anything uses the word “Nazi” as an attack on them personally. Mix that with the Nazis in The New Colossus having turned America into the Norman Rockwell/Leave It To Beaver world that wingnut think was paradise and you’ve got a rancid cocktail that will lead to a lot of bitching about “SJWs” and “politicization.”

The alt right are the biggest bunch of whiners I’ve seen not named religious right.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:37:20am

re: #92 dangerman

i know how the math works

i still say that more than half of the population is stupider than that

Since intelligence is more like a log-normal curve; it’s more likely that 70% of the population is below the mean.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:40:47am

re: #206 HappyWarrior

The alt right are the biggest bunch of whiners I’ve seen not named religious right.

Since they feed from the same sewers, the alt-right and the religious right share many of the same miserable characteristics.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:41:19am

re: #208 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Since they feed from the same sewers, the alt-right and the religious right share many of the same miserable characteristics.

Yep.

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wrenchwench  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:41:38am

re: #199 plansbandc

Fantastic music!! May be my most favorite Tiny Desk yet.

All wonderful songs, but this is still my favorite Steve Martin and the Steep Canyon Rangers song:

Atheists Don’t Have No Songs | Steve Martin and the Steep Canyon Rangers feat. Edie Brickell

‘Caroline’ above is a close second.

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dangerman  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:51:52am

re: #207 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Since intelligence is more like a log-normal curve; it’s more likely that 70% of the population is below the mean.

Good enough for me

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:54:26am

re: #211 dangerman

Good enough for me

Or, why you use Median instead of Mean.

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dangerman  Oct 7, 2017 • 10:56:16am

re: #212 Blind Frog Belly White

Or, why you use Median instead of Mean.

Exactly

Now try to explain how 90% of people think they are above average drivers

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wrenchwench  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:00:30am

re: #210 wrenchwench

‘Caroline’ above is a close second.

Oooohh, there’s an official Caroline video!

Caroline (Official Video) | Steve Martin and the Steep Canyon Rangers

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:01:23am

re: #201 Targetpractice

Rightwing media has spent years insisting to wingnut snowflakes that “Nazi” is a pejorative used by “libruls” to attack all that is good and right with conservatism in America. With Trump in office, that shit has had rocket fuel dumped on it so now the wingnuts see anything uses the word “Nazi” as an attack on them personally. Mix that with the Nazis in The New Colossus having turned America into the Norman Rockwell/Leave It To Beaver world that wingnut think was paradise and you’ve got a rancid cocktail that will lead to a lot of bitching about “SJWs” and “politicization.”

Yunno, it is one thing to use “Nazi” to describe someone you disagree with, but there is nothing the fuck wrong with using it to describe someone who carries a swastika banner and chants “Jews will not replace us!” at a demonstration.

But that is the point that we have reached in the shouting match that now passes for political discourse in America.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:03:15am

Nate’s outer rain bands are now moving onshore in SE Louisiana.
Forecast is landfall tonight as a possible Cat2.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:08:15am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nate’s outer rain bands are now moving onshore in SE Louisiana.
Forecast is landfall tonight as a possible Cat2.

I’m just waiting for Harry Shearer to post more of his Tweets blaming Hillary…

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:10:22am

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

#FakeNews
#Photoshopped!!!

Just because his name has JR in it doesn’t mean that Donald is his biological father.

219
FormerDirtDart  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:19:09am

I’ve never known a door stop to long survive a dog’s discovery of it.

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BigPapa  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:20:48am

Going to be interesting to see the RW respond to Trump wanting equal time after they railed against the Fairness Doctrine for so long. Especially Rush.

221
scottslemmons  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:22:58am

re: #220 BigPapa

Going to be interesting to see the RW respond to Trump wanting equal time after they railed against the Fairness Doctrine for so long. Especially Rush.

It’s going to be like when they complain that people shouting them down violates their First Amendment rights. They don’t want other people to have free speech; they want everyone to be required to listen to and agree with them. Likewise, when they say they want equal time, they actually mean they want ALL the time. No voices against Trump. No shows but Trump TV.

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JordanRules  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:25:13am
223
ObserverArt  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:25:27am

That Steve Martin guy just might make it one of these days!

Heh, he puts paid to the old “jack of all trades and master of none” line for those that want to try to do a little of everything. He has the arts pretty well covered.

And just for old times sake…from about 40 years ago.

King Tut - SNL

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:25:48am

re: #220 BigPapa

Going to be interesting to see the RW respond to Trump wanting equal time after they railed against the Fairness Doctrine for so long. Especially Rush.

They’ll go along with it.

225
JordanRules  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:28:24am

So absurd.

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wrenchwench  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:36:24am
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JordanRules  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:37:23am
228
freetoken  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:39:59am

I’m pretty sure that I don’t know who Harvey Weinstein is.

229
freetoken  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:40:23am

Thus, all this concern just flies over my head.

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wrenchwench  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:40:51am

re: #228 freetoken

I’m pretty sure that I don’t know who Harvey Weinstein is.

And you won’t again tomorrow.

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freetoken  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:43:34am

Is “Harvey Weinstein” a name someone is calling their pet Clupea harengus v. rosea these days?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:43:51am
233
wrenchwench  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:47:34am
234
FormerDirtDart  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:48:50am

re: #233 wrenchwench

Training wheels

235
wrenchwench  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:50:55am

re: #234 FormerDirtDart

Training wheels

It’s a good thing when those come off, though. He’s not even ready to raise them up a little bit so he can turn better.

236
jaunte  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:51:39am

re: #234 FormerDirtDart

237
FormerDirtDart  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:55:06am

re: #235 wrenchwench

It’s a good thing when those come off, though. He’s not even ready to raise them up a little bit so he can turn better.

Yeah, but his came off from metal fatigue as he failed to learn to ride unassisted, and his constant running into things

238
MsJ  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:55:45am

Great. The wheels are coming off. Maybe someone could do something before we have a global economic depression and/or thermonuclear war, seeing that trump is currently working on both.

239
GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 7, 2017 • 11:57:21am
240
jaunte  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:00:02pm

re: #232 Joe Bacon 🌹

241
Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:00:41pm
242
Belafon  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:01:16pm

re: #239 GlutenFreeJesus

“Hillary should just go away.”
“Why isn’t Hillary saying anything?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:01:25pm
244
Single-handed sailor  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:01:37pm
245
BeachDem  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:03:28pm

re: #225 JordanRules

So absurd.

[Embedded content]

The NYT has called for Weinstein to release his accusers from NDAs. Will they ask the yam to do the same? (Both sides, after all.)

huffingtonpost.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:04:01pm
247
BigPapa  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:04:37pm

The right wing immediately jumped on this to try and make it a Dem/Hillary problem, not a men in power problem. Despite the litany of cons with harassment issues, most notably the President they just elected despite knowing of his horrible behavior towards women.

248
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:06:32pm
249
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:07:42pm

heh

250
Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:07:45pm

re: #245 BeachDem

The NYT has called for Weinstein to release his accusers from NDAs. Will they ask the yam to do the same? (Both sides, after all.)

huffingtonpost.com

Of course not. Right now Maggie and Glenn are transcribing the latest Frank Luntz talking points to denounce Hillary!

251
JordanRules  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:08:08pm

Oh NYT. Your dedication to both sides hackery is insane.

The title is suggesting something that isn’t even happening.
I need a nap!

252
jaunte  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:09:09pm
253
FormerDirtDart  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:09:11pm
254
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:09:13pm
255
HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:09:39pm

re: #252 jaunte

[Embedded content]

WTF.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:09:56pm

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Thank you Nate.

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BeachDem  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:10:31pm

re: #251 JordanRules

Oh NYT. Your dedication to both sides hackery is insane.

[Embedded content]

The title is suggesting something that isn’t even happening.
I need a nap!

Well, at least he’s a lion and not a FIREBRAND!!!
/

258
jaunte  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:10:32pm

re: #255 HappyWarrior

They just can’t quit her.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:11:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:12:23pm

re: #252 jaunte

[Embedded content]

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:12:54pm

re: #258 jaunte

They just can’t quit her.

It’s pathetic as is with FNC but from the RNC wow.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:12:55pm

re: #253 FormerDirtDart

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BeachDem  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:16:25pm

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Hard to think of any difference between Weinstein & Trump other than one of them was his PARTY’s NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

And that’s it in a nutshell—despite the NYT editorial board’s bullshit

There has been no comment from Mr. Obama or Mrs. Clinton, who condemned Donald Trump for boasting of sexual assault on the “Access Hollywood” tape.

Call me when Weinstein runs for president.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:16:51pm
265
HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:19:11pm

re: #263 BeachDem

And that’s it in a nutshell—despite the NYT editorial board’s bullshit

There has been no comment from Mr. Obama or Mrs. Clinton, who condemned Donald Trump for boasting of sexual assault on the “Access Hollywood” tape.

Call me when Weinstein runs for president.

Exactly.

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JordanRules  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:21:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:21:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:21:58pm

Goddamn I’m sick of pedantic bs. Weinstein is awful but he’s not President or a former nominee. This is bullshit coming from the party of Teump.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:22:19pm

re: #266 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

Course he did.

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:23:06pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:24:02pm

re: #270 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Jesus Christ.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:24:37pm

Sorry Republicans you literally made Trump President. Shut the fuck up about Harvey Weinstein.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:28:10pm

I forgot about Herman Cain too.

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electrotek  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:43:52pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 7, 2017 • 12:54:23pm

re: #270 jaunte

[Embedded content]

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ObserverArt  Oct 7, 2017 • 1:15:03pm

re: #258 jaunte

They just can’t quit her.

They sure are sick about all this stuff about Hillary. They want her to be quiet and move on.

Well, except when you need a balancing excuse then it’s all about Hillary. It has gone from “but her emails” to simply ‘but Hillary.”

If these idiots could get over themselves for one minute and take a look at what they are doing they just might see how stupid this is getting with all the tweets and reports excusing Trump by nonsensical comparisons. Total failure.

Of all the bad shit happening in America the lowering of general intelligence has got to be the worst.


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First-Ever Sex Discrimination Legal Network Is Ready to Defend Women in Trump’s America Shortly after the election, the attorneys and advocates who work at the National Women’s Law Center (NWLC) started having a conversation. It seemed that the incoming Trump administration was likely to move backward on enforcing civil rights, loosening regulations, ...
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Meet Rhiannon Giddens, Newly Minted MacArthur ‘Genius’ As a solo artist — and, before that, as a member of the Carolina Chocolate Drops — singer-songwriter Rhiannon Giddens has made a career out of revitalizing and invigorating decades' worth of music reflecting the African-American experience. That's meant ...
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Lies About Black America Are ‘Central’ to Gun Ownership: A Reporter on What We Get Wrong About Gun Violence Lies that the GOP and Donald Trump promote all day long. “If you look at the neighborhoods where [gun violence] is most clustered,” Beckett said, it’s located in areas with high levels of poverty, low levels of education, and ...
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St. Vincent Performs ‘Los Ageless’ One of Stephen's very favorite singer-songwriters collaborates with three pairs of boots to perform a song off her new album "Masseduction". Subscribe To "The Late Show" Channel HERE: bit.lyFor more content from "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert", click ...
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