What Is Wrong With This Guy? Now Trump Is Challenging Rex Tillerson to Compare IQ Tests With Him

A thin-skinned narcissist with a big mouth and no filters
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Every day brings another indication that Donald Trump is unfit for the office of the presidency — and for that matter, unfit to interact with other human beings in general. Seriously, this guy has very real issues: Trump proposes ‘IQ tests’ faceoff with Tillerson after secretary of state calls him a ‘moron’.

President Trump proposed an “IQ tests” faceoff with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson after the nation’s top diplomat reportedly called the president a “moron” and disparaged his grasp on foreign policy.

In an interview with Forbes magazine published Tuesday, Trump fired a shot at Tillerson over the “moron” revelation, first reported by NBC News and confirmed by several other news organizations, including The Washington Post.

“I think it’s fake news,” Trump said, “but if he did that, I guess we’ll have to compare IQ tests. And I can tell you who is going to win.”

Does he even realize that by reacting like this, he’s basically confirming the NBC News “moron” report?

And then, he followed up by saying he “doesn’t believe in undercutting people,” when he undercuts everyone he works with.

Trump plans to meet for lunch Tuesday with Tillerson and Defense Secretary Jim Mattis in the president’s private dining room at the White House. Shortly before the lunch, a reporter asked Trump whether he had undercut Tillerson with his comments to Forbes.

“No, I didn’t undercut anybody. I don’t believe in undercutting people,” Trump said during a brief media appearance in the Oval Office, as he sat beside former secretary of state Henry Kissinger during a meeting to discuss foreign affairs.

How long is America going to let this dangerous clown show continue?

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364 comments

1
freetoken  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:34:19am

Have we ever had such a public figure out his own insecurities to this level?

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:34:41am

Such statesmanship and presidential behavior.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:35:15am

Godzilla vs T Rex?!?

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:35:46am

Everything is wrong. That’s why his base loves him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:37:07am

I’m not really following the Weinstein thing more than I have to, but this from Chris Hayes after reading the new Ronan Farrow piece seemed to capture an important aspect:

Because it’s not about having sex with a number of different women for variety. It’s about power and subjugation and “because I can”.

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EPR-radar  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:37:56am
As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron. — HL Mencken

Mencken’s prophecy has come true.

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:39:17am
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CongoJack  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:39:32am

re: #5 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m not really following the Weinstein thing more than I have to, but this from Chris Hayes after reading the new Ronan Farrow piece seemed to capture an important aspect:

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“because I can”.

See also: Access Hollywood tape - if you are a star they let you do it.

Same difference.

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:40:11am

re: #6 EPR-radar

As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright fucking moron. — HL Mencken

Mencken’s prophecy has come true.

the tillerson amendment

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:41:38am

Last person I heard bragging about having a high IQ was Chuck Johnson.

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:42:36am

re: #1 freetoken

Have we ever had such a public figure out his own insecurities to this level?

Have we ever seen a public figure that is so self-unaware?

it all goes together and it is all so Trump.

What still amazes me is his own kids and wife allow him to do this to himself. Either they can’t stop it or they too suffer from the same lack of awareness.

It freaking boggles the mind (of anyone that is normal).

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:43:28am
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wrenchwench  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:43:59am

The Dumbbell Curve by Chuck Murray

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whitebeach  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:45:17am

Trump’s IQ challenge reminds me of the story from the “Bronx Zoo” days of the NY Yankees. In the locker room one day Reggie Jackson was bragging of having an IQ of 160. Mickey Rivers, overhearing, yelled, “Out of what? A thousand?”

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:46:22am

re the subtitle: “A thin-skinned narcissist with a big mouth and no filters”

these days ive been using “a bigot with no impluse control”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:46:46am

re: #8 CongoJack

See also: Access Hollywood tape - if you are a star they let you do it.

Same difference.

Exactly, although I get the feeling that it’s kind of a hobby for Trump, but a way of life for Weinstein. But cut from the same cloth.

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nines09  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:50:00am
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KGxvi  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:50:09am

We go now to the president…

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bratwurst  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:50:52am

re: #14 whitebeach

Trump’s IQ challenge reminds me of the story from the “Bronx Zoo” days of the NY Yankees. In the locker room one day Reggie Jackson was bragging of having an IQ of 160. Mickey Rivers, overhearing, yelled, “Out of what? A thousand?”

Gives me a good opportunity to tell the great anecdote about the introduction of the Reggie! candy bar.

His former teammate Catfish Hunter quipped “When you unwrap a Reggie! bar, it tells you how good it is.”

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:50:52am

I guess he should have made an IQ Test part of his cabinet screening?

Like the cussing in this one…..very presidential.

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plansbandc  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:52:46am

I’m just imagining what the R’s would have done if Obama had called someone an asshole.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:54:41am

Yet again, Sanders opts for the “I know you are, but what am I?” defense.

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:56:20am
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freetoken  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:57:10am

re: #23 Kragar

.@joniernst on the Trump-Corker feud: The president “needs to stop. But I wish Bob would stop too. Just stop” politi.co pic.twitter.com

Wrote the women who bragged about castrating.

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whitebeach  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:57:49am

re: #19 bratwurst

Gives me a good opportunity to tell the great anecdote about the introduction of the Reggie! candy bar.

His former teammate Catfish Hunter quipped “When you unwrap a Reggie! bar, it tells you how good it is.”

And another Yankee pitcher, Darold Knowles, on Jackson: “There’s not enough mustard in the world to cover that hot dog.”

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wheat-dogg  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:58:50am

re: #22 Blind Frog Belly White

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Yet again, Sanders opts for the “I know you are, but what am I?” defense.

Spicer was an inept liar, clearly out of his element. SHS lies effortlessly, just like her boss. I wonder how she can reconcile her alleged Christian faith and her shilling for an alleged criminal. Spicer I could laugh at. Sanders gives me the creeps, like one of the aunts in The Handmaid’s Tale.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:00:51pm

re: #1 freetoken

Have we ever had such a public figure out his own insecurities to this level?

Rodney Dangerfield?

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whitebeach  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:01:21pm

re: #22 Blind Frog Belly White

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Yet again, Sanders opts for the “I know you are, but what am I?” defense.

Can we get up a petition to bring back Spicer? He was at least comical, but Sanders is like a visit to the dentist in the nineteenth century.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:02:32pm

Gotta grab some lunch. Maybe I’ll go to McDonald’s and see if they have sichuan sauce. //

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:02:58pm

re: #7 Kragar

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:03:39pm

re: #26 wheat-dogg

Spicer was an inept liar, clearly out of his element. SHS lies effortlessly, just like her boss. I wonder how she can reconcile her alleged Christian faith and her shilling for an alleged criminal. Spicer I could laugh at. Sanders gives me the creeps, like one of the aunts in The Handmaid’s Tale.

$$$$ and notoriety.

If there is some lying’ to achieve good like stopping abortion, turning this country into a fundie Taliban-like state and running out people of color so she can practice her White religion in peace…then her God will be pleased. So long as she tithes 10% or more to His great works through her pastor.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:04:32pm

re: #21 plansbandc

I’m just imagining what the R’s would have done if Obama had called someone an asshole.

There aren’t enough fainting couches in the world if Obama said it. Hell, they got all in a tither for Obama calling Kanye a jackass. Such language!

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:05:25pm

Why not both?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:05:34pm

re: #32 b.d. (bill d.)

There aren’t enough fainting couches in the world if Obama said it. Hell, they got all in a tither for Obama calling Kanye a jackass. Such language!

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When hating Kanye was something that should have United everyone.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:05:42pm

(sorry if posted)

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calochortus  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:05:48pm

Just for fun, can Trump explain what IQ has to do with being a successful president? Or for that matter, has to do with anything?

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:06:19pm

re: #33 Ace-o-aces

These days “or” is almost always inclusive, like in logic.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:06:32pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:06:36pm

re: #33 Ace-o-aces

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Why not both?

Kimmel mentioned it. Maybe if you got your head out of Trump’s ass, you’d know that Toady.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:07:28pm

re: #36 calochortus

Just for fun, can Trump explain what IQ has to do with being a successful president? Or for that matter, has to do with anything?

Hell, just for fun can he explain what being a successful President means!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:08:51pm

re: #37 Belafon

These days “or” is almost always inclusive, like in logic.

I see so many false dichotomies these days. It’s like people have no idea what ‘not mutually exclusive’ means.

Or as I like to say, “It’s a floor polish AND a dessert topping!”

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jeffreyw  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:09:19pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:10:23pm

re: #42 jeffreyw

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That looks fabulous, and I don’t even have any idea what it is!

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John Carter  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:11:44pm

re: #7 Kragar

Have you ever taken those IQ tests that you see on FB? Some of my friends used to crow about their scores. I never figured out how to break it to them that I purposefully answered all the questions wrong and I still scored north of the 130’s.

It is just a random number generator and they are just collecting information about you - like how gullible you are.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:13:16pm

Welp, James O’Keefe has another stupid “sting” video all the right wing sites are screaming about in unison. A video editor for the New York Times making a series of weird boasts and dissing Trump.

Yawn.

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:14:50pm

re: #34 HappyWarrior

When hating Kanye was something that should have United everyone.

I hope hating Kanye is not passé. I want to be up on all the fashion.

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calochortus  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:15:21pm

re: #44 John Carter

Have you ever taken those IQ tests that you see on FB? Some of my friends used to crow about their scores. I never figured out how to break it to them that I purposefully answered all the questions wrong and I still scored north of the 130’s.

It is just a random number generator and they are just collecting information about you - like how gullible you are.

Don’t know my IQ. Don’t care. I’m sure someone, somewhere (elementary school?) tested us all but that important information has been lost.
I know my kids’ IQs more or less, but oddly that really doesn’t make any difference in real life either.

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whitebeach  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:16:49pm

re: #36 calochortus

Just for fun, can Trump explain what IQ has to do with being a successful president? Or for that matter, has to do with anything?

If the blessed day comes when Trump is convicted of treason and faces a stiff sentence, his lawyers will be claiming that he has an IQ of 62 and couldn’t have known what he was doing.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:17:22pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Welp, James O’Keefe has another stupid “sting” video all the right wing sites are screaming about in unison. A video editor for the New York Times making a series of weird boasts and dissing Trump.

Yawn.

Because you’d never find right wingers in the media bashing Obama. Jimmy needs a real job. This shit is stale.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:17:42pm

re: #46 ObserverArt

I hope hating Kanye is not passé. I want to be up on all the fashion.

Oh never.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:19:45pm

“How long is America going to let this dangerous clown show continue?”

The answer Charles, is “too damned long”.

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whitebeach  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:21:17pm

re: #41 Blind Frog Belly White

We really, really need to teach at least one semester of logic in schools, and a semester of rhetoric as well. People graduate from high school and even college without the slightest idea of logical flaws or sophistic tricks.

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:22:38pm

re: #51 Eclectic Cyborg

“How long is America going to let this dangerous clown show continue?”

The answer Charles, is “too damned long”.

Until we can come up with a way to force the president’s party to turn against him in an out of election year, all we can do is minimize the damage.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:23:55pm

So Melania went to WVA & is back already at the WH?

1 hour trips.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:24:14pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Welp, James O’Keefe has another stupid “sting” video all the right wing sites are screaming about in unison. A video editor for the New York Times making a series of weird boasts and dissing Trump.

Yawn.

That little criminal punk really does need to find a real job and a life.

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mmmirele  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:25:15pm

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Dr. Matt  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:26:45pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:26:47pm

re: #55 Dr. Matt

That little criminal punk really does need to find a real job and a life.

He can’t resist that sweet wingnut welfare. The wealthy scumbags bankrolling propagandists like James are the real problem.

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:27:05pm

re: #47 calochortus

Took IQ exams for placement tests in grade school. Must have done ok since I ended up in the gifted/advanced classes. When I took the ASVAB at the recruiting station, I scored a 98 out of 99, and missed maxing out the General Technical skills by 3 points.

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CongoJack  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:27:25pm

re: #55 Dr. Matt

Why find a respectable job when you can take a shit ton of money from a moral-deficient billionaire and get paid to play illegal pranks on people for the good of those same super rich. Hell if I could get a job doing that I would (pocket the money and just sit at home and pay Destiny 2 and not do a damn thing to help the billionaire cause).

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:28:04pm

re: #57 Dr. Matt

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I don’t believe anything coming from a novelty account like that.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:28:30pm

I have no idea what my IQ is and I don’t care. Trump claiming his is 203 though shows me that he doesn’t know what an IQ is or how it’s measured.

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CongoJack  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:28:54pm

re: #61 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I agree… seems as if this twitter account is a little too on the nose.

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jeffreyw  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:28:54pm

re: #43 Blind Frog Belly White

That looks fabulous, and I don’t even have any idea what it is!

It’s spaghetti carbonara with my homemade bacon.

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:29:46pm

re: #59 Kragar

Took IQ exams for placement tests in grade school. Must have done ok since I ended up in the gifted/advanced classes. When I took the ASVAB at the recruiting station, I scored a 98 out of 99, and missed maxing out the General Technical skills by 3 points.

Sounds a lot like mine, and I’m not the smartest person I know.

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CongoJack  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:30:38pm

Later all!

Keep America afloat until I get back.

taking a quick nap before my wife decides to go into labor (well not her decision - but close enough :P).

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:31:21pm

re: #65 Belafon

All that and I still was infantry for my first 4 years. What the hell do I know?

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calochortus  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:31:27pm

re: #65 Belafon

Sounds a lot like mine, and I’m not the smartest person I know.

Yeah, I’m not the smartest person I know either. And that’s a fine thing, since I’m not the dumbest either.

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:32:12pm

I hate that I can’t tell if this is or is not satire.

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:32:42pm
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jeffreyw  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:32:57pm

re: #47 calochortus

Don’t know my IQ. Don’t care. I’m sure someone, somewhere (elementary school?) tested us all but that important information has been lost. I
know my kids’ IQs more or less, but oddly that really doesn’t make any difference in real life either.

I remember a test in grade school, they were calling it an IQ test, but it just showed that I was very good at taking tests.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:33:33pm

re: #59 Kragar

Took IQ exams for placement tests in grade school. Must have done ok since I ended up in the gifted/advanced classes. When I took the ASVAB at the recruiting station, I scored a 98 out of 99, and missed maxing out the General Technical skills by 3 points.

They gave the ASVAB to the shop kids in my school. I was taking electronics, so was part of that, and got a perfect score. The recruiters were calling constantly, but I had no interest in the military, having grown attached to being both free and alive.

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:33:56pm

re: #67 Kragar

All that and I still was infantry for my first 4 years. What the hell do I know?

My dad, who was in the Army in Vietnam, told me to join some other branch because they would make someone like me into infantry because I’d be too smart for their needs.

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John Carter  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:34:30pm

re: #47 calochortus

Don’t know my IQ. Don’t care. I’m sure someone, somewhere (elementary school?) tested us all but that important information has been lost.
I know my kids’ IQs more or less, but oddly that really doesn’t make any difference in real life either.

Well, IQ’s scores change over the course of your life. I learned over the years that almost everyone has intelligence in a certain area of life. The guy who cuts my grass knows fa more about plants and stuff then I do.

So called intelligent people (or people with high IQ’s) have many many gaps in their knowledge and intelligence. I am sure I can code better the Neil deGrasse Tyson.

That is not saying I couldn’t learn about grass and stuff and Neil couldn’t learn to code circles around me.

Oh and then there is judgement which is far more important anyway.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:34:31pm

re: #66 CongoJack

Later all!

Keep America afloat until I get back.

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LOL! This may be your last chance for a decent sleep for the next 18 years….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:34:58pm

re: #52 whitebeach

We really, really need to teach at least one semester of logic in schools, and a semester of rhetoric as well. People graduate from high school and even college without the slightest idea of logical flaws or sophistic tricks.

Logic, rhetoric, and probability. So many people don’t really get any of these.

My late Mother-In-Law taught school, and was by no means a stupid woman. I had to work very hard to convince her that playing the same numbers over and over doesn’t incrementally increase their chances each time they lose.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:35:08pm

re: #69 A dark and stormy covfefe

I hate that I can’t tell if this is or is not satire.

I wonder if he showed them his yuuuge beautiful electoral maps or gave them his great healthcare.

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bratwurst  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:35:11pm

Seems like 90% of the quoted tweets that show up as “unavailable” in my timeline are by Shaun King. Obviously people consider him worth following and discussing, but I am very satisfied with my decision to block him and will never forgive his role in helping Donald Trump win.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:35:27pm

re: #61 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I don’t believe anything coming from a novelty account like that.

Sadly though, it is completely believable.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:35:55pm
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Sir John Barron  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:36:00pm

re: #78 bratwurst

Seems like 90% of the quoted tweets that show up as “unavailable” in my timeline are by Shaun King. Obviously people consider him worth following and discussing, but I am very satisfied with my decision to block him and will never forgive his role in helping Donald Trump win.

I followed for a bit then unfollowed. I came to believe he just wasn’t very trustworthy.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:36:09pm

re: #69 A dark and stormy covfefe

I hate that I can’t tell if this is or is not satire.

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Jesus Christ guy.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:37:14pm

re: #80 FormerDirtDart

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He’d be shitting on Pennsylvania had he lost it and he doesn’t know shit about Pittsburgh.

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jeffreyw  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:37:47pm

re: #73 Belafon

My dad, who was in the Army in Vietnam, told me to join some other branch because they would make someone like me into infantry because I’d be too smart for their needs.

The recruiter asked me what field I wanted when I went in to volunteer.
I just said “I dunno, jump out of airplanes and carry around a rifle?”
“11b, eh? Good field, lots of chance for advancement!”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:37:53pm

re: #80 FormerDirtDart

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He’s a two faced dipshit who did way too much coke at Studio 54 back in the day.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:38:00pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Welp, James O’Keefe has another stupid “sting” video all the right wing sites are screaming about in unison. A video editor for the New York Times making a series of weird boasts and dissing Trump.

Yawn.

I wonder why Okeefe thinks this is news. The GOP is privately dissing Trump, when it isn’t publicly kissing his as*.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:38:18pm

re: #76 Blind Frog Belly White

Logic, rhetoric, and probability. So many people don’t really get any of these.

My late Mother-In-Law taught school, and was by no means a stupid woman. I had to work very hard to convince her that playing the same numbers over and over doesn’t incrementally increase their chances each time they lose.

It doesn’t, but it does make a person go insane if they play different numbers and their regular numbers win. Once you’ve locked into particular numbers, you’re trapped.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:38:56pm

re: #83 HappyWarrior

He’d be shitting on Pennsylvania had he lost it and he doesn’t know shit about Pittsburgh.

What’s to know? It’s all coal crackers and steelworkers, and everyone’s out of work because of Chinese steel and Messican immigrants, right?
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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:39:12pm

re: #86 Sir John Barron

I wonder why Okeefe thinks this is news. The GOP is privately dissing Trump, when it isn’t publicly kissing his as*.

Because O’Keefe lives in a bubble.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:39:44pm

re: #88 Blind Frog Belly White

What’s to know? It’s all coal crackers and steelworkers, and everyone’s out of work because of Chinese steel and Messican immigrants, right?
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My very liberal grandparents would be sick to their stomach to see him using their hometown like that.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:40:05pm

re: #7 Kragar

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Is this source reputable? My co-worker says this is the scariest thing he’s heard about Trump.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:40:26pm

I’ve met many people with high IQs who are still idiots when it comes to social skills and common sense.

In fact, people who brag about their IQ are exactly the kind of people I DON’T want to be around.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:40:43pm

re: #87 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It doesn’t, but it does make a person go insane if they play different numbers and their regular numbers win. Once you’ve locked into particular numbers, you’re trapped.

She didn’t really believe me when i told her that 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 was as likely to win as any other combination. In most minds, ‘random’ = ‘evenly distributed’.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:40:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:41:30pm

re: #83 HappyWarrior

He’d be shitting on Pennsylvania had he lost it and he doesn’t know shit about Pittsburgh.

Pittsburgh=steelworkers and coal miners

that’s all you have to know….

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:41:43pm

re: #94 Eclectic Cyborg

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The best thing about that is that Homer’s voice actor did that as an ad lib. He got so involved in being Homer, he misspelled smart.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:41:48pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL! This may be your last chance for a decent sleep for the next 18 years….

26 so far and still not sleeping.

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KGxvi  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:41:59pm

re: #70 Kragar

I’m fairly certain there are a couple of cases involving one of his predecessors that say the exact opposite of that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:42:33pm

re: #86 Sir John Barron

I wonder why Okeefe thinks this is news. The GOP is privately dissing Trump, when it isn’t publicly kissing his as*.

Okeefe is hoping for a trumptweet…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:42:50pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pittsburgh=steelworkers and coal miners

that’s all you have to know….

Yep even though it’s been changing for many years now. As a descendant of both steelworkers and coal miners, I’m tired of their hard work being used by Trump when he knows nothing about that lien of work. The goddamned mines took both of my mom’s grandpas way too early and contributed to my great uncle’s health problems that he got from years in working in the mills.

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:43:04pm

re: #93 Blind Frog Belly White

She didn’t really believe me when i told her that 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 was as likely to win as any other combination. In most minds, ‘random’ = ‘evenly distributed’.

There was an online comic that had a interesting variation on that. Ask people in a room to distribute themselves randomly, and they will spread themselves around the room, staying away from each other.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:43:15pm

re: #86 Sir John Barron

I wonder why Okeefe thinks this is news. The GOP is privately dissing Trump, when it isn’t publicly kissing his as*.

He thinks it’s news, because his audience are gullible chumps who think it proves something.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:43:15pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

Okeefe is hoping for a trumptweet…

“James O’Keefe is a great journalist. A lot of people are saying he’s the next Woodward and Bernstein.”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:43:41pm

re: #92 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ve met many people with high IQs who are still idiots when it comes to social skills and common sense.

In fact, people who brag about their IQ are exactly the kind of people I DON’T want to be around.

It signals that they have no accomplishments to brag about. It makes about as much sense as bragging about being white.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:44:18pm

re: #102 Blind Frog Belly White

He thinks it’s news, because his audience are gullible chumps who think it proves something.

He knows his market of foolish Trump supporters desperate for validation.

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calochortus  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:46:33pm

re: #74 John Carter

Well, IQ’s scores change over the course of your life. I learned over the years that almost everyone has intelligence in a certain area of life. The guy who cuts my grass knows fa more about plants and stuff then I do.

So called intelligent people (or people with high IQ’s) have many many gaps in their knowledge and intelligence. I am sure I can code better the Neil deGrasse Tyson.

That is not saying I couldn’t learn about grass and stuff and Neil couldn’t learn to code circles around me.

Oh and then there is judgement which is far more important anyway.

Yup.

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:48:09pm

re: #101 Belafon

Back in the Corps, one of my commands paid to have a speaker come in and talk to us about diversity. My buddies and I learned about one of the exercises she conducted, so planned ahead. When our section went in, she handed out sheets of paper and told us to fold them, and cut them into snowflakes. Then she asked, “What do you see about them?”

One of the Staff NCOs chimed in, “They’re all different.”

Six of us responded “Ours aren’t. Look.” and showed the identical ones we prepped before the class.

“YOU SIX! COME SEE ME AFTER THIS!”

“Aye Gunny.”

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:48:52pm

re: #59 Kragar

Took IQ exams for placement tests in grade school. Must have done ok since I ended up in the gifted/advanced classes. When I took the ASVAB at the recruiting station, I scored a 98 out of 99, and missed maxing out the General Technical skills by 3 points.

Well!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:49:43pm

re: #101 Belafon

There was an online comic that had a interesting variation on that. Ask people in a room to distribute themselves randomly, and they will spread themselves around the room, staying away from each other.

The Birthday Paradox: take any random group of 23 people (or 30, depending on who is doing the math explanation) and there is a 50% chance that two have the same birthday.

There are a lot of folks who delight in elaborately debunking it, but I’ve found it to be fairly accurate through the years.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:50:45pm

re: #92 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ve met many people with high IQs who are still idiots when it comes to social skills and common sense.

In fact, people who brag about their IQ are exactly the kind of people I DON’T want to be around.

After years of working in Science, I can tell you that those characteristics are not linked.

In my own sibling cohort, the sister with the best social skills tells me she always feels like the dumb one. She’s much smarter than average, but growing up in a close-knit family of people who are smarter she ended up feeling stupid.

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:51:25pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL! This may be your last chance for a decent sleep for the next 18 years….

He will hope it is for only 18. Some parents now might disagree.

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calochortus  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:52:13pm

re: #93 Blind Frog Belly White

She didn’t really believe me when i told her that 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 was as likely to win as any other combination. In most minds, ‘random’ = ‘evenly distributed’.

“My” numbers (quotes because I’ve never actually played these or any other numbers) are 30, 31, 32, etc. for however many numbers are required. Mr. C. occasionally checks the winning numbers and tells me if 2 of my numbers showed up.

But then, I’m the kind of person when asked to pick a number from 1 to 10 likes to pick 1. It startles people, which tells you something about how the human mind works.

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:53:46pm

re: #112 calochortus

“My” numbers (quotes because I’ve never actually played these or any other numbers) are 30, 31, 32, etc. for however many numbers are required. Mr. C. occasionally checks the winning numbers and tells me if 2 of my numbers showed up.

But then, I’m the kind of person when asked to pick a number from 1 to 10 likes to pick 1. It startles people, which tells you something about how the human mind works.

I tell my kids that if someone asks for random numbers, say 1, 1, 1, 1,…. If they say they need to be unique, say 1, 2, 3, 4,…

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:54:05pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pittsburgh=steelworkers and coal miners

that’s all you have to know….

And 1950. When America was great.

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jaunte  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:54:56pm

Trump thinks he has a high IQ because he heard 95 was an A.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:55:35pm

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Birthday Paradox: take any random group of 23 people (or 30, depending on who is doing the math explanation) and there is a 50% chance that two have the same birthday.

There are a lot of folks who delight in elaborately debunking it, but I’ve found it to be fairly accurate through the years.

I don’t doubt the birthday paradox but I still have never actually met someone who shares my birthday. My birthday was on my maternal grandparents’ anniversary though so that counts for something I guess. I have seen it in action though. My mom and my uncle, my dad’s brother share the same birthday. I realized there’s a lot of people in my family with their birthday around that time and then I subtracted nine months. Pretty obvious heh what was going on.

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John Carter  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:56:18pm

re: #110 Blind Frog Belly White

After years of working in Science, I can tell you that those characteristics are not linked.

In my own sibling cohort, the sister with the best social skills tells me she always feels like the dumb one. She’s much smarter than average, but growing up in a close-knit family of people who are smarter she ended up feeling stupid.

I would argue that she is just as smart as the rest of the family. Social skills are a much harder form of intelligence to measure.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:56:33pm

re: #91 Big Beautiful Door

Is this source reputable? My co-worker says this is the scariest thing he’s heard about Trump.

It’s a “rogue” account, so no.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:56:43pm

re: #115 jaunte

Trump thinks he has a high IQ because he heard 95 was an A.

That would have been when he was much younger and could speak like a normal person.
He might literally be a moron now.

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:56:44pm

re: #21 plansbandc

I’m just imagining what the R’s would have done if Obama had called someone an asshole.

…when he was 14

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:57:13pm

re: #92 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ve met many people with high IQs who are still idiots when it comes to social skills and common sense.

In fact, people who brag about their IQ are exactly the kind of people I DON’T want to be around.

If someone slides their MENSA membership into the conversation (especially as a qualification for any opinion they have), that’s the cue for my eyes to glaze over and I stop listening to anything that person has to say.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:58:51pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:58:55pm

re: #117 John Carter

I would argue that she is just as smart as the rest of the family. Social skills are a much harder form of intelligence to measure.

Tell her that. She’s 68 and still thinks of herself as ‘The Dumb One’.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:59:27pm

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

If someone slides their MENSA membership into the conversation (especially as a qualification for any opinion they have), that’s the cue for my eyes to glaze over and I stop listening to anything that person has to say.

I attended a science fiction convention years ago, that had a Mensa convention happening the same weekend in the hotel. The Mensa people were often annoying, especially the kids, but they know how to party. I had my first trash-can punch at a Mensa room-party.

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:59:32pm

re: #41 Blind Frog Belly White

I see so many false dichotomies these days. It’s like people have no idea what ‘not mutually exclusive’ means.

Or as I like to say, “It’s a floor polish AND a dessert topping!”

upding for the reference

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2017 • 12:59:32pm

re: #116 HappyWarrior

I don’t doubt the birthday paradox but I still have never actually met someone who shares my birthday. My birthday was on my maternal grandparents’ anniversary though so that counts for something I guess. I have seen it in action though. My mom and my uncle, my dad’s brother share the same birthday. I realized there’s a lot of people in my family with their birthday around that time and then I subtracted nine months. Pretty obvious heh what was going on.

In my family many of us share the same day. June, July, August and September, the 19th for a niece, my one brother, me and my one nephew.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:00:37pm

OMG Sleuth!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:03:20pm

re: #127 Stanley Sea

OMG Sleuth!

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:03:28pm

re: #21 plansbandc

Obama did call Kanye West a jackass. LOL.

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:03:29pm

re: #93 Blind Frog Belly White

She didn’t really believe me when i told her that 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 was as likely to win as any other combination. In most minds, ‘random’ = ‘evenly distributed’.

mathematicians do not play the lotto (i’ve got a sign on my desk)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:03:49pm

re: #126 ObserverArt

In my family many of us share the same day. June, July, August and September, the 19th for a niece, my one brother, me and my one nephew.

Until my youngest brother came along, we had some neat symmetry my birthday in July, my middle brother in August, my mom in September, and then my Dad in October. ,

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:04:36pm

re: #126 ObserverArt

In my family many of us share the same day. June, July, August and September, the 19th for a niece, my one brother, me and my one nephew.

Hey! In my family the day is the 24th (me, my parents, a niece, an aunt, and an uncle). Different months but the same day. There are also two siblings who are the 2nd in different months (plus a niece). Then the also-rans who came close (6th, 21st, and 28th)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:04:54pm

re: #128 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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I liked VH1’s Where Are They Now when I found out that people were doing things like art or raising families.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:05:13pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hey! In my family the day is the 24th (me, my parents, a niece, an aunt, and an uncle). Different months but the same day. There are also two siblings who are the 2nd in different months (plus a niece). Then the also-rans who came close (6th, 21st, and 28th)

I’m a 24th!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:05:26pm

re: #127 Stanley Sea

OMG Sleuth!

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YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe they will keep her…

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calochortus  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:06:12pm

re: #130 dangerman

mathematicians do not play the lotto (i’ve got a sign on my desk)

This is not true. A guy I dated briefly had a PhD in Math and he won something like $10 million (some years after I knew him.)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:06:41pm

re: #117 John Carter

I would argue that she is just as smart as the rest of the family. Social skills are a much harder form of intelligence to measure.

The other way of looking at it is that even a person of modest social skills, among a group of Spectrum Dwellers, looks like the most socially adept person EVER! She was the one who figured out how to be one of the popular kids, which largely eluded the rest of us. We envied her social prowess, she envied our academic prowess.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:06:42pm

Kim is doing what fundies have been doing though. They know they’ve lost the battle here so they go to Eastern Europe or Africa and spread the homophobic bullshit there. And unfortunately, I think Kim will find a more willing audience in Eastern Europe. Eastern Europe has a lot of homophobia.

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:07:21pm

re: #133 HappyWarrior

I liked VH1’s Where Are They Now when I found out that people were doing things like art or raising families.

About 10 years ago, VH1 showed where the lead singer of Winger was teaching ballet.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:08:34pm

re: #139 Belafon

About 10 years ago, VH1 showed where the lead singer of Winger was teaching ballet.

I liked hearing Dee Snider explain the difference to his son that he wasn’t a transsexual but instead a transvestite in Twisted Sister. TS isn’t my cup of tea music wise but Dee always struck me as a stand up guy.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:08:47pm

re: #136 calochortus

This is not true. A guy I dated briefly had a PhD in Math and he won something like $10 million (some years after I knew him.)

They may play lotto, but intellectually they don’t expect to win.

BUT, every time I’ve played lotto, even though I know the odds of winning are so astronomically small that you only slightly increase them by actually buying a ticket, I find myself fantasizing about how I’ll spend the money.

It’s one reason I don’t play lotto.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:09:03pm

re: #134 HappyWarrior

I’m a 24th!

We 24s are a superior group.
Just saying….

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:09:14pm

re: #136 calochortus

This is not true. A guy I dated briefly had a PhD in Math and he won something like $10 million (some years after I knew him.)

well i havent met every mathematician, so

did i really have to add “most”? ;-)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:10:06pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

We 24s are a superior group.
Just saying….

It’s a good number. Willie Mays for starters.

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whitebeach  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:10:18pm

To me one of the main criteria, maybe the most important one, in evaluating a person’s intelligence is his or her sense of humor. It just seems that most of the really smart, not just test smart, people I have known could make me laugh or at least loved to laugh themselves.

And conversely, you have Donald Trump, who when it comes to humor most resembles a 1930s Bavarian telling Jewish jokes, and who makes Richard Nixon look like Richard Pryor by comparison.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:10:31pm

re: #143 dangerman

well i havent met every mathematician, so

did i really have to add “most”? ;-)

Naw…because there is always that one…

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EPR-radar  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:10:54pm

re: #86 Sir John Barron

I wonder why Okeefe thinks this is news. The GOP is privately dissing Trump, when it isn’t publicly kissing his as*.

Anyone who isn’t dissing t**** is a t**** cultist.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:10:57pm

re: #141 Blind Frog Belly White

They may play lotto, but intellectually they don’t expect to win.

BUT, every time I’ve played lotto, even though I know the odds of winning are so astronomically small that you only slightly increase them by actually buying a ticket, I find myself fantasizing about how I’ll spend the money.

It’s one reason I don’t play lotto.

Some say the purpose of a lottery is to make the poor feel like they can become rich, so they don’t revolt. A lot of people fantasize that the lottery will change their lot in life.

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:11:09pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:11:14pm

re: #145 whitebeach

To me one of the main criteria, maybe the most important one, in evaluating a person’s intelligence is his or her sense of humor. It just seems that most of the really smart, not just test smart, people I have known could make me laugh or at least loved to laugh themselves.

And conversely, you have Donald Trump, who when it comes to humor most resembles a 1930s Bavarian telling Jewish jokes, and who makes Richard Nixon look like Richard Pryor by comparison.

And then you have Mike Huckabee who does the worst Dad jokes ever. But yeah a good comedian is intelligent because he/she is observant.

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:12:39pm

I laugh at my own jokes.

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calochortus  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:12:42pm

re: #143 dangerman

well i havent met every mathematician, so

did i really have to add “most”? ;-)

Yes. Yes you did. I might add that most mathematicians don’t admit to playing the lottery. Who knows how many do it?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:12:52pm

re: #149 Kragar

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A cheap political trick? FFS Roy, maybe just maybe you’re a shitty father who raised a delinquent.

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:13:12pm

re: #141 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t play lotto regularly, but if the money gets up there, I’ll buy one ticket. Sure, the chances of me winning are next to nothing, but someone is going to hit the numbers at some point, and I can afford a buck or two for that.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:13:13pm

re: #151 Belafon

I laugh at my own jokes.

You can’t be as bad as Huckabee.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:13:16pm

re: #149 Kragar

Are you at all surprised that someone raised by a religious fanatic has a life-destroying substance abuse problem, that his father can not acknowledge, much less take responsibility for? Religious authoritarians suck.

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:13:23pm

re: #145 whitebeach

To me one of the main criteria, maybe the most important one, in evaluating a person’s intelligence is his or her sense of humor. It just seems that most of the really smart, not just test smart, people I have known could make me laugh or at least loved to laugh themselves.

And conversely, you have Donald Trump, who when it comes to humor most resembles a 1930s Bavarian telling Jewish jokes, and who makes Richard Nixon look like Richard Pryor by comparison.

humor is not easy

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:14:15pm

re: #145 whitebeach

To me one of the main criteria, maybe the most important one, in evaluating a person’s intelligence is his or her sense of humor. It just seems that most of the really smart, not just test smart, people I have known could make me laugh or at least loved to laugh themselves.

And conversely, you have Donald Trump, who when it comes to humor most resembles a 1930s Bavarian telling Jewish jokes, and who makes Richard Nixon look like Richard Pryor by comparison.

I’ve often wondered about punning, because my observation is that most punsters I know make me think ‘Spectrum’. Indeed, in my family the Social Sister is the worst punster (part of why she sees herself as the dumb one).

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:15:26pm

re: #158 Blind Frog Belly White

I’ve often wondered about punning, because my observation is that most punsters I know make me think ‘Spectrum’. Indeed, in my family the Social Sister is the worst punster (part of why she sees herself as the dumb one).

You know, it’s interesting how “spectrum” seems to run in your family. I can only think one of person in my family who might be on the specturm. I don’t see it in either of my parents or brothers or the three grandparents I knew.

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calochortus  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:15:31pm

re: #148 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Some say the purpose of a lottery is to make the poor feel like they can become rich, so they don’t revolt. A lot of people fantasize that the lottery will change their lot in life.

For some people I would assume the entertaining fantasy is worth the price of a ticket. I don’t enjoy gambling particularly so I don’t play the lottery.

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:15:49pm

re: #151 Belafon

I laugh at my own jokes.

i do too.
mine
not yours
sometimes i slay myself

i’d laugh at yours if they were funny like mine. are they?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:15:53pm

re: #149 Kragar

“Where are the parents?”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:15:58pm

re: #154 Kragar

I don’t play lotto regularly, but if the money gets up there, I’ll buy one ticket. Sure, the chances of me winning are next to nothing, but someone is going to hit the numbers at some point, and I can afford a buck or two for that.

Right. At a certain point, the rewards of winning can outweigh the almost complete certainty of not winning, if the price is low enough.

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:16:56pm

re: #158 Blind Frog Belly White

I’ve often wondered about punning, because my observation is that most punsters I know make me think ‘Spectrum’. Indeed, in my family the Social Sister is the worst punster (part of why she sees herself as the dumb one).

I read somewhere, probably here, that wordplay is common among those on the spectrum.

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EPR-radar  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:16:59pm

re: #136 calochortus

This is not true. A guy I dated briefly had a PhD in Math and he won something like $10 million (some years after I knew him.)

The expected value of a lottery ticket is almost always less than its cost.

Winning the lottery is the only conceivable way most people can become rich.

These two observations lead to different lottery strategies.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:17:14pm

re: #160 calochortus

For some people I would assume the entertaining fantasy is worth the price of a ticket. I don’t enjoy gambling particularly so I don’t play the lottery.

Not my thing either. I spent about an hour of a weekend in Vegas gambling.

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:17:15pm

re: #152 calochortus

Yes. Yes you did. I might add that most mathematicians don’t admit to playing the lottery. Who knows how many do it?

ok lets just back up - ;-)

the statement is more of a metaphor on odds rather than literally passing judgement on each and every mathematician out there

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:17:46pm

My grandmother has few traditional vices i.e. never been a drinker, smoker, or really too much for swear words but she will sometimes buy a scratch ticket. I think she thinks, well it’s not too much and the payoff is big. Her sisters though liked going to Atlantic City. I’ve only been gambling once myself. Not really my thing but of how quickly the odds can turn against you but I definitely saw why people get a thrill and rush from it when I went gambling in New Mexico.

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:18:16pm

re: #151 Belafon

I laugh at my own jokes.

Somebody has to. //

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:18:21pm

re: #162 GlutenFreeJesus

“Where are the parents?”

“White Christian culture raises drug fiends.”

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:19:08pm

re: #154 Kragar

I don’t play lotto regularly, but if the money gets up there, I’ll buy one ticket. Sure, the chances of me winning are next to nothing, but someone is going to hit the numbers at some point, and I can afford a buck or two for that.

and to just beat this horse dead, the odds of your being the sole winner (and so your actual return) go down as the pot goes up. more people play…
yeah yeah, its still more total money…maybe

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calochortus  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:21:24pm

re: #166 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Not my thing either. I spent about an hour of a weekend in Vegas gambling.

Back in the day, when one stayed at a motel in Nevada, they’d give you a free roll of nickels to go play the slot machines. I never won anything, but also don’t recall ever dropping in one of my own nickles. I think Mr. C. once put a quarter in a slot machine in a Winnemucca grocery store to demonstrate how they worked to the kids.

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:21:29pm

re: #164 Belafon

I read somewhere, probably here, that wordplay is common among those on the spectrum.

i believe that wordplay is the highest form of humor.
mrs dm’s constant eyerolls vehemently disagree

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freetoken  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:22:13pm

re: #171 dangerman

The very biggest pots for Lotto give an expected return (that is, the mean return for any ticket) that can be very tempting.

But of course your odds of winning don’t go up.

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:22:27pm

There are ways to increase your odds. Illegal, but…
en.wikipedia.org

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:22:33pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

You know, it’s interesting how “spectrum” seems to run in your family. I can only think one of person in my family who might be on the specturm. I don’t see it in either of my parents or brothers or the three grandparents I knew.

Well, part of it is understanding the spectrum as running from just past neurotypical all the way to extreme autism. I’m not saying that any of us would be diagnosed per the DSMV (except maybe the youngest sister), but those traits appear in all six of us to a greater or lesser extent.

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calochortus  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:23:13pm

re: #167 dangerman

ok lets just back up - ;-)

the statement is more of a metaphor on odds rather than literally passing judgement on each and every mathematician out there

I know. I’m just impressed with the fact I once dated someone who won the lottery. Even if it was 15 years after I knew him.

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:23:33pm

re: #172 calochortus

Back in the day, when one stayed at a motel in Nevada, they’d give you a free roll of nickels to go play the slot machines. I never won anything, but also don’t recall ever dropping in one of my own nickles. I think Mr. C. once put a quarter in a slot machine in a Winnemucca grocery store to demonstrate how they worked to the kids.

Quarter goes in. Nothing comes out. Can’t explain that!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:23:47pm

re: #175 BlueSpotinAL

There are ways to increase your odds. Illegal, but…
en.wikipedia.org

The chief conspirators were sent to prison, and most of the fraudulently acquired winnings were never paid out.

So they’re saying it can pay off.

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:24:06pm

re: #174 freetoken

The very biggest pots for Lotto give an expected return (that is, the mean return for any ticket) that can be very tempting.

But of course your odds of winning don’t go up.

exactly
i used to say to my lottery playing friends, give me the dollar. it’ll work out the same for you.

best way to double your money is fold it and put it in your pocket

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wrenchwench  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:24:25pm

re: #168 HappyWarrior

… I went gambling in New Mexico.

Where life itself can be a gamble.

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:25:10pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

We 24s are a superior group.
Just saying….

Yeahbutt…I share the 19th with Big Bill Clinton. So there!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:25:41pm

re: #176 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, part of it is understanding the spectrum as running from just past neurotypical all the way to extreme autism. I’m not saying that any of us would be diagnosed per the DSMV (except maybe the youngest sister), but those traits appear in all six of us to a greater or lesser extent.

That’s right. The traits do seem to appear. Honestly, maybe I’m missing it but I can’t even see the traits in my siblings or parents.

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:26:07pm

re: #182 ObserverArt

I’m on the 19th of November.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:26:31pm

re: #181 wrenchwench

Where life itself can be a gamble.

I wish my buddy still lived there. That was a fun trip. It’s so beautiful out there. Not that it isn’t here on the East coast but the Southwest was unreal.

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freetoken  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:27:04pm

Almost 13 million hits in less than a day, of course:

Star Wars: The Last Jedi Trailer (Official)

It has generated a lot of speculation over the story line.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:27:10pm

re: #184 Belafon

I’m on the 19th of November.

Four Score and Seven Years Ago, your birth happened wink.

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:27:11pm

re: #143 dangerman

well i havent met every mathematician, so

did i really have to add “most”? ;-)

Around here? Yes.

Buncha damn high IQ Mensa members I tells ya’…or at least act like it by puttin’ on airs.

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:27:17pm

re: #172 calochortus

Back in the day, when one stayed at a motel in Nevada, they’d give you a free roll of nickels to go play the slot machines. I never won anything, but also don’t recall ever dropping in one of my own nickles. I think Mr. C. once put a quarter in a slot machine in a Winnemucca grocery store to demonstrate how they worked to the kids.

My Mom did that with a nickel slot in Tahoe to show me and my brother how you never win.

She won $200.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:27:40pm

A colleague, who is a mathematician and a biostatician once said (I paraphrase): The probability of winning the lottery is zero if you don’t play. However, your probability of winning exponentially increases by playing one ticket and you only achieve marginal probabilistic gains by playing two or more tickets. In short, only play one ticket but continue to keep your day job.

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sizzzzlerz  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:27:56pm

I am so SMRT. D’oh!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:28:45pm

re: #189 Kragar

My Mom did that with a nickel slot in Tahoe to show me and my brother how you never win.

She won $200.

Leading to crippling gambling addictions for both of you?

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whitebeach  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:28:49pm

re: #160 calochortus

For some people I would assume the entertaining fantasy is worth the price of a ticket. I don’t enjoy gambling particularly so I don’t play the lottery.

That’s me. Maybe once a year, if I’m feeling bruised by the world, I’ll spend a buck on the Lotto. It’s about as cheap a price as you’ll find for a few days of daydreams, and it also gives you a chance to look at yourself in a different light. For instance, if I win, the local no-kill animal shelter can quadruple its facilities and services and never have to solicit donations again. OTOH, I also fantasize about the leverage a hundred million or so would give me in doing things like, oh, I don’t know, maybe taking revenge.

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:29:25pm

re: #149 Kragar

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Ol’ Roy is going to be a real piece of work should he get into the Senate. Uck!

Come on Alybammer…surprise us.

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:30:03pm

re: #150 HappyWarrior

And then you have Mike Huckabee who does the worst Dad jokes ever. But yeah a good comedian is intelligent because he/she is observant.

Why, thank you.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:30:21pm

re: #194 ObserverArt

Ol’ Roy is going to be a real piece of work should he get into the Senate. Uck!

Come on Alybammer…surprise us.

You know the shame of it is? His opponent, Jones really is a wonderful guy from all I’ve read. The man is empathetic, intelligent, has a sense of justice, and is very qualified for the job but because Alabama, he’s a long shot, hopefully Alabama will surprise us all.

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John Carter  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:30:22pm

re: #154 Kragar

I don’t play lotto regularly, but if the money gets up there, I’ll buy one ticket. Sure, the chances of me winning are next to nothing, but someone is going to hit the numbers at some point, and I can afford a buck or two for that.

That is what i do as well. The odds are astronomical against anyone who plays, but if I am playing it is for a really big pot.

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wrenchwench  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:31:15pm

re: #185 HappyWarrior

I wish my buddy still lived there. That was a fun trip. It’s so beautiful out there. Not that it isn’t here on the East coast but the Southwest was unreal.

It’s a mixed bag. I had someone stand in my doorway (even after I told her the dog was welcome) comparing the town she used to live in to this one, unfavorably to this town, and I said, ‘You want to make this town look good, just go to [two of the next nearest towns], they make us look great!’ She agreed.

There’s a word for that, I think…

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:31:27pm

re: #192 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Leading to crippling gambling addictions for both of you?

Well, perhaps an affection for all you can eat buffets which we went to after she won.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:31:38pm

re: #162 GlutenFreeJesus

“Where are the parents?”

There’s a thing called PK (Preacher’s Kid) and I think this situation is similar: JK (Judge’s Kid).

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jaunte  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:32:08pm

re: #154 Kragar

I don’t play lotto regularly, but if the money gets up there, I’ll buy one ticket. Sure, the chances of me winning are next to nothing, but someone is going to hit the numbers at some point, and I can afford a buck or two for that.

When it gets really high, everyone in my office goes in on a group purchase which I have to join just in case.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:32:13pm

re: #199 Kragar

Well, perhaps an affection for all you can eat buffets which we went to after she won.

All you can eat bacon was my favorite thing about Las Vegas.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:32:15pm

re: #183 HappyWarrior

That’s right. The traits do seem to appear. Honestly, maybe I’m missing it but I can’t even see the traits in my siblings or parents.

I imagine that can make it more difficult for you. For The Older Boy, he doesn’t have anything the rest of us haven’t seen in ourselves and our siblings and parents. Some things are more pronounced, but they’re not “new” or outside our experience.

Plus, you may recall, I work in Science. Science is lousy with Spectrum Dwellers! Probably why I gravitated to it - it was like going home.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:32:21pm

re: #198 wrenchwench

It’s a mixed bag. I had someone stand in my doorway (even after I told her the dog was welcome) comparing the town she used to live in to this one, unfavorably to this town, and I said, ‘You want to make this town look good, just go to [two of the next nearest towns], they make us look great!’ She agreed.

There’s a word for that, I think…

I’m sure it is. I really do want to see more of the West though.

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:32:44pm

Tomorrow is my birthday

I wrote this

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:33:46pm

re: #180 dangerman

When lottery tickets first went on sale here in Texas my step mom stopped off on her way home from work and bought 4 scratch offs. Took them home and gave 2 to my dad. One of them was a $2 winner. My step mom said, “I can’t believe I won the first time I ever played the lottery!”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:33:55pm

re: #198 wrenchwench

It’s a mixed bag. I had someone stand in my doorway (even after I told her the dog was welcome) comparing the town she used to live in to this one, unfavorably to this town, and I said, ‘You want to make this town look good, just go to [two of the next nearest towns], they make us look great!’ She agreed.

There’s a word for that, I think…

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calochortus  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:34:06pm

One other piece of Lotto wisdom-and why “my numbers” start with 30 and go up. If any of your numbers are above 31, your odds of having to split the winnings with another player go down dramatically.
Many, many people use birthdays and anniversaries or other dates for their numbers. If you go outside that, your odds of winning remain the same, but the odds of someone else sharing your numbers decrease.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:34:42pm

re: #203 Blind Frog Belly White

I imagine that can make it more difficult for you. For The Older Boy, he doesn’t have anything the rest of us haven’t seen in ourselves and our siblings and parents. Some things are more pronounced, but they’re not “new” or outside our experience.

Plus, you may recall, I work in Science. Science is lousy with Spectrum Dwellers! Probably why I gravitated to it - it was like going home.

Yeah, it was tough because I wanted to have someone I could point to and go “Well they made it so I’ll be okay.” I’m a rare humanities spectrum dweller too. I like science but my heart is in the humanities. My parents are both introverted I think in their own different ways. I’ve also been realizing that I’m actually probably the most extroverted of my siblings. I was so shocked to see my brother’s in laws and extended family describe him as shy but then I’ve really witnessed him, he is. His daughter though is becoming an extrovert like her mom.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:34:52pm

re: #66 CongoJack

Later all!

Keep America afloat until I get back.

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Some great news in 2017.

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petesh  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:34:58pm

I self-administered an IQ test when I was about 14, from a book by Hans Eysenck (a brilliant but flawed professor of the time). It told me I should consider a trade, such as carpentry or plumbing, satisfying work that would not overtax my perfectly normal but modest brain. Since I was at the time being fast-tracked for college, for which I qualified two years early, I concluded (correctly) that Eysenck was full of shit. I was also aware of the possibility that he had calibrated the self-test on the assumption that people would cheat, which I hadn’t; but that only reinforced my conclusion.

Two or three years later, I had a vacation job in a brewery assisting a nice guy of apparently ordinary intelligence who could solve crossword puzzles with astounding speed. Thus I began to comprehend the varieties of human ability. Meeting some dumb Mensa folks helped too.

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:35:13pm

re: #189 Kragar

My Mom did that with a nickel slot in Tahoe to show me and my brother how you never win.

She won $200.

Odd odds. But that is gambling.

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:35:36pm

re: #207 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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I heard someone singing that in my head when I saw the picture.

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:35:39pm

re: #208 calochortus

I always just go with the quick pick.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:38:28pm

re: #211 petesh

Yep. There’s no one test that really measures it all, because it’s multiple interacting facets of personality.

But with all that, one thing I can tell you - Trump is a dumb fuck.

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calochortus  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:39:06pm

re: #214 Kragar

I always just go with the quick pick.

Whatever works.
And now, because I haven’t won the lottery and hired household help, I gotta go do stuff.

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:39:48pm
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dangerman  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:42:14pm

re: #217 Kragar

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that guy makes more remarks later written off as jokes than every other president put together

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:43:05pm

re: #218 dangerman

that guy makes more remarks later written off as jokes than every other president put together

Yep. Too bad, he’s the biggest joke of all.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:45:14pm

It’s obvious to me that Trump is very insecure.about himself.

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jaunte  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:46:10pm

re: #221 HappyWarrior

He has the greatest, most incredible insecurities ever measured.

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:46:27pm

re: #220 Dr. Matt

2013

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lawhawk  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:47:28pm

re: #220 Dr. Matt

Trump is nucking futs.

April 2013 is earliest I can find:

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:49:09pm

re: #224 lawhawk

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Trump is nucking futs.

You know, I think we elected another senile old man to the WH. It’d be nice fi the Republicans stopped nominating senile old farts like Trump and Reagan.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:49:34pm

re: #223 Kragar

2013

Jebus.

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John Carter  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:51:08pm

re: #211 petesh

I self-administered an IQ test when I was about 14, from a book by Hans Eysenck (a brilliant but flawed professor of the time). It told me I should consider a trade, such as carpentry or plumbing, satisfying work that would not overtax my perfectly normal but modest brain. Since I was at the time being fast-tracked for college, for which I qualified two years early, I concluded (correctly) that Eysenck was full of shit. I was also aware of the possibility that he had calibrated the self-test on the assumption that people would cheat, which I hadn’t; but that only reinforced my conclusion.

Two or three years later, I had a vacation job in a brewery assisting a nice guy of apparently ordinary intelligence who could solve crossword puzzles with astounding speed. Thus I began to comprehend the varieties of human ability. Meeting some dumb Mensa folks helped too.

Yea, this was my point. I met a lot of smart so called “dumb people”. They always seem to surprise me with their intelligence in various areas. It started out as a humbling experience and then it evolved into a learning moment for me. Intelligence takes many forms and only some of them are measurable.

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:53:24pm

re: #222 jaunte

He has the greatest, most incredible insecurities ever measured.

This he won’t tell you.

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freetoken  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:55:28pm

That Trump values loyalty over anything else is our first and best clue of how insecure he is.

All this other stuff - like IQ fetish, demeaning of women, etc - add to that revelation.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:58:07pm

Texas Tech press conference.
m.wlox.com
It was rich white boy’s family who alerted police that he was behaving erratically and MIGHT HAVE A WEAPON. The dead officer’s own gun was found in its holster but the suspect had a gun on him when arrested. It therefore appears that Affluenza Whitey managed somehow to get his own gun into the police station. My prediction: He’ll do 8 or 10 for second degree then spend the rest of his life quietly enjoying his inheritance. If he gets strapped for cash he can hit the fundy church “reformed sinner” circuit and fleece some rubes.

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2017 • 1:59:17pm

Does anyone think Trump would know the answer if you were to ask him what does the initialism IQ stand for?

I don’t. He just repeats stuff he hears and knows it’s association.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:00:00pm

re: #231 ObserverArt

Does anyone think Trump would know the answer if you were to ask him what does the initialism IQ stand for?

I don’t. He just repeats stuff he hears and knows it’s association.

I think a lot of wingers are like that.

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:00:17pm

re: #229 freetoken

That Trump values loyalty over anything else is our first and best clue of how insecure he is.

All this other stuff - like IQ fetish, demeaning of women, etc - add to that revelation.

Being a big bully is a huge clue. Lording over his family another.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:00:27pm

re: #181 wrenchwench

Where life itself can be a gamble.

and that’s just crossing the street at the crosswalk when you have the right of way!

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:00:30pm

re: #57 Dr. Matt

@RogueSNRadvisor is a troll account - some people think it’s being operated by one of the “alt-right” clowns, trying to get liberals to repeat its claims and thereby discredit them.

I don’t know who runs it, but most of its tweets are complete made-up bullshit.

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petesh  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:01:07pm

re: #227 John Carter

Yea, this was my point. I met a lot of smart so called “dumb people”. They always seem to surprise me with their intelligence in various areas. It started out as a humbling experience and then it evolved into a learning moment for me. Intelligence takes many forms and only some of them are measurable.

Let’s face it, Trump has talent of a sort. It’s not academic (no, Donald, you were not top of your class, not remotely close), it’s not even intellectual (shit, he hasn’t even read the books he supposedly wrote), it’s vaguely reptilian, as in he’s quite good at taunting people and utterly unburdened by conscience.

He’s the kind of guy who’d hire someone to take the IQ test for him and then boast about the results.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:01:11pm

re: #231 ObserverArt

Does anyone think Trump would know the answer if you were to ask him what does the initialism IQ stand for?

I don’t. He just repeats stuff he hears and knows it’s association.

It’s stands for Yuuuuge Smarts, which I haz lots of. Believe me.

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jaunte  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:01:39pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:03:03pm

re: #236 petesh

Let’s face it, Trump has talent of a sort. It’s not academic (no, Donald, you were not top of your class, not remotely close), it’s not even intellectual (shit, he hasn’t even read the books he supposedly wrote), it’s vaguely reptilian, as in he’s quite good at taunting people and utterly unburdened by conscience.

He’s the kind of guy who’d hire someone to take the IQ test for him and then boast about the results.

Street smarts.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:03:15pm

So in my effort to make a cool mixlist of good protest songs. Stumbled on the Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll by Bob Dylan. Made me think about Ditka’s idiotic remarks about no oppression in the last 100 years.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:03:40pm

re: #238 jaunte

Steve Bannon: “There’s a coalition coming together that’s going to challenge every Republican incumbent, except for @SenTedCruz.” #Hannity
— Fox News

Fascinating strategery when you control both houses of congress and the other party has more Senate incumbent seats to defend. But, hey who am I to complain?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:03:51pm

re: #238 jaunte

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If Congressional R’s had any courage, they’d tell Bannon who is an admitted Lenin fan to go fuck himself but they won’t because they’re scared of the beast they enabled and created.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:04:24pm

re: #241 Sir John Barron

Fascinating strategery when you control both houses of congress and the other party has more Senate incumbent seats to defend. But, hey who am I to complain?

Yeah if Bannon wants to make safe Republican seats into competitive races, I encourage him to go for it.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:04:25pm

Man, that USPS informed mail is great.

Thanks Charles!

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Sir John Barron  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:04:38pm

re: #231 ObserverArt

Does anyone think Trump would know the answer if you were to ask him what does the initialism IQ stand for?

I don’t. He just repeats stuff he hears and knows it’s association.

Somebody ask him, please.

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jaunte  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:04:58pm

re: #242 HappyWarrior

“The purge threats will continue until legislative performance improves.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:06:38pm

re: #246 jaunte

“The purge threats will continue until legislative performance improves.”

I can’t wait for them to actually nominate and elect a KKK member and then see the smug dickbags like Douche D’Sousa who use the political alignments of 150 years ago against people.

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:06:52pm

re: #245 Sir John Barron

Somebody ask him, please.

I bet he can’t even pronounce the second word. He probably will get the first a bit screwy but be close.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:07:58pm

re: #248 ObserverArt

I bet he can’t even pronounce the second word. He probably will get the first a bit screwy but be close.

“It stands for intelligence, uh, intelligence…Q. The Q actually doesn’t stand for anything. Not many people know that.”

/

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jaunte  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:10:03pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:11:12pm

re: #250 jaunte

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Any questions on Niger?

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William Lewis  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:13:41pm

re: #230 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Texas Tech press conference.
m.wlox.com
It was rich white boy’s family who alerted police that he was behaving erratically and MIGHT HAVE A WEAPON. The dead officer’s own gun was found in its holster but the suspect had a gun on him when arrested. It therefore appears that Affluenza Whitey managed somehow to get his own gun into the police station. My prediction: He’ll do 8 or 10 for second degree then spend the rest of his life quietly enjoying his inheritance. If he gets strapped for cash he can hit the fundy church “reformed sinner” circuit and fleece some rubes.

Depends. Was the officer white or not? Things get brighter for Whitey the less white the cop was.

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jaunte  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:13:50pm

re: #251 HappyWarrior

I haven’t seen anything.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:13:58pm

re: #250 jaunte

Team Trump’s NFL distraction story is distracting.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:15:31pm

Only took Ben 24 hours to realize that cartoon was racist? Because most of us figured that out in about 5 seconds.

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nines09  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:16:36pm

re: #251 HappyWarrior

Any questions on Niger?

Oh what the hell…

qvKaLKAqrWNybqoJM2Mo8mkl1DAmJmmCGswEy+lyjXGR0joGjjPja70fB9GsUHgD5JjmFRlM/WaxxOyUG1gTgg==

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:17:16pm

I’ve seen a lot of the NFL players interviewed who have knelt. All of them are better spoken than Trump. Eric Reid, Kaep’s former teammate on the Niners I saw point out in the strongest terms that he respects the military and their sacrifices even brought up that had his mother not been pregnant with him, she would have been deployed in Gulf War I. Reid’s an intelligent guy. He quoted James Baldwin in his NYT op-ed. But of course assholes will call people like him thugs without knowing their story. He’s from Baton Rouge, Louisiana. My own great uncle was a Catholic priest for a predominately African-American church in Lafayette.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:17:17pm

re: #231 ObserverArt

Does anyone think Trump would know the answer if you were to ask him what does the initialism IQ stand for?

I don’t. He just repeats stuff he hears and knows it’s association.

At first I thought maybe he was mistaking IQ for Q score.

Then I googled his Q score.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!

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Robert O.  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:18:22pm

For once, I agree with Trump! Let’s put Tillerson and Trump up on stage, along with everybody else that Trump has challenged to an IQ Test. Mensa should set the questions and make it a live event on TV. The only way to ascertain Trump’s claims is to put it to the test! As a member of the evidence-based scientific community, I support the use of scientific experiment to ascertain or refute a hypothesis.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:18:42pm

re: #255 Ace-o-aces

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Only took Ben 24 hours to realize that cartoon was racist? Because most of us figured that out in about 5 seconds.

That’s actually some rare maturity for him. Maybe think next time Ben instead of thinking “LOL I’m triggering leftist snowflakes.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:18:52pm

re: #255 Ace-o-aces

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Only took Ben 24 hours to realize that cartoon was racist? Because most of us figured that out in about 5 seconds.

Hey, but he was uncomfortable with it, so that counts, right?
///

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:19:56pm

re: #261 Blind Frog Belly White

Hey, but he was uncomfortable with it, so that counts, right?
///

I wonder what he’d feel if one of his Daily Wire cohorts showed him some of the Antisemitic propaganda that was used against Jews. He’s a little asshole. I’m actually shocked he apologized though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:20:14pm

re: #244 Stanley Sea

Man, that USPS informed mail is great.

Thanks Charles!

Indeed! I have been so amazed!

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jaunte  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:21:43pm

re: #259 Robert O.

For once, I agree with Trump! Let’s put Tillerson and Trump up on stage, along with everybody else that Trump has challenged to an IQ Test. Mensa should set the questions and make it a live event on TV. The only way to ascertain Trump’s claims is to put it to the test! As a member of the evidence-based scientific community, I support the use of scientific experiment to ascertain or refute a hypothesis.

I’d like it if he was set up beforehand with a cheat sheet with all the answers to a different test.

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:23:04pm

re: #259 Robert O.

For once, I agree with Trump! Let’s put Tillerson and Trump up on stage, along with everybody else that Trump has challenged to an IQ Test. Mensa should set the questions and make it a live event on TV. The only way to ascertain Trump’s claims is to put it to the test! As a member of the evidence-based scientific community, I support the use of scientific experiment to ascertain or refute a hypothesis.

Isn’t there several tests used to judge an IQ? I want to see him do all of them so we can get a real good feel…and a good laugh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:24:38pm

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

At first I thought maybe he was mistaking IQ for Q score.

Then I googled his Q score.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!

Really, someone with a big name needs to trigger Trump about his Q score.

The meltdown will be EPIC!
(and will probably involve a mention of his beautiful Hollywood star…)

267
HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:25:16pm

re: #266 Backwoods_Sleuth

Really, someone with a big name needs to trigger Trump about his Q score.

The meltdown will be EPIC!
(and will probably involve a mention of his beautiful Hollywood star…)

Paging Mr. Degrasse Tyson.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:25:23pm

re: #235 Charles Johnson

Ugh. Thanks. I’ll add it to my blocked list so I don’t see them again.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:25:41pm

re: #264 jaunte

I’d like it if he was set up beforehand with a cheat sheet with all the answers to a different test.

I’m reminded of the scene from election day, where he appeared to be trying to cheat off Melania’s ballot.

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jaunte  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:26:28pm
271
HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:26:32pm

re: #269 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m reminded of the scene from election day, where he appeared to be trying to cheat off Melania’s ballot.

Heh the impression I got with that was that he was making sure Melania was voting for him.

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jaunte  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:27:05pm

“…Pro-Trump lawmaker fires back at Corker: ‘I think the Senate is an adult day care center’

Rep. Diane Black (R-Tenn.) on Tuesday slammed the Senate as “an adult day care center” saying the upper chamber “can’t get anything done.”
…….
The congresswoman, who is running for governor in Tennessee and chairs the House Budget Committee, slammed the Senate’s repeated failed attempts to repeal and replace ObamaCare.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:27:48pm

re: #270 jaunte

[Embedded content]

The congresswoman, who is running for governor in Tennessee and chairs the House Budget Committee, slammed the Senate’s repeated failed attempts to repeal and replace ObamaCare.

There’s your answer. She’s running for governor and knows she has to be on Ill Douche’s good side.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:28:04pm

re: #272 jaunte

Oh bloody ‘ell!

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:28:25pm
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jaunte  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:28:59pm

WTF

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jaunte  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:29:57pm

“U.S. exports to Canada and Mexico generate nearly $37,000 in annual export revenue for every American factory worker.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:30:10pm

re: #276 jaunte

[Embedded content]

WTF

Pretty funny since Hockey deals with NAFTA a lot I imagine.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:31:09pm

You know a lot of people in my own family objected to NAFTA while it was being implemented. I didn’t see Trump doing that. In fact, I saw him profitting from it. Nothing wrong with that but his two face bullshit on trade pisses me off.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:33:43pm

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

Indeed! I have been so amazed!

Junk
Junk
Junk
Junk

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:35:12pm

I just did a search for something related to this thread and Conny Trump. I came across this, which I had not seen before. Telling to be sure.

Language Expert: Donald Trump’s Way Of Speaking Is ‘Oddly Adolescent’ | The 11th Hour | MSNBC

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Dr. Matt  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:35:52pm

re: #280 Stanley Sea

Junk
Junk
Junk
Junk

What is USPS informed mail?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:36:12pm

re: #281 ObserverArt

I just did a search for something related to this thread and Conny Trump. I came across this, which I had not seen before. Telling to be sure.

[Embedded content]

Video

They just noticed that?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:39:44pm

For fucks sake….

YouTube

285
Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:41:27pm

re: #252 William Lewis

Depends. Was the officer white or not? Things get brighter for Whitey the less white the cop was.

He was white but a little on the swarthy side. My phone shits on me when I try to post images (thin line that conceals the function buttons) but here is a link:
bing.com
Incidentally the shooter’s bail was set at 5 million. It occurred to me that his family just might be able to post this if they can find a bond company that will accept 15%. They could then get him out the country. I recommend Somalia.

286
EPR-radar  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:43:02pm

re: #284 Blind Frog Belly White

The Foxification of CNN would appear to be complete. Everything on the left side of that image could have come straight from Faux News.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:43:34pm

re: #284 Blind Frog Belly White

For fucks sake….

[Embedded content]

Want to know how Trump became President?

THIS SHIT!

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:43:49pm

re: #283 HappyWarrior

They just noticed that?

I think many have noticed it, this just clarifies what we all suspected and adds a clinical description to it from someone that studies linguistics. It’s good to get some reinforcement sometimes so we know we aren’t just hating or being picky.

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:44:20pm

I’m still waiting on every Republican to comment on Trump.

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EPR-radar  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:44:47pm

re: #285 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

He was white but a little on the swarthy side. My phone shits on me when I try to post images (thin line that conceals the function buttons) but here is a link:
bing.com
Incidentally his bail was set at 5 million. It occurred to me that his family just might be able to post this if they can find a bond company that will accept 15%. They could then get him out the country. I recommend Somalia.

It would take a very stupid bail bond outfit to post bail for such a clear flight risk. I think the family will need to pony up the entire $5M if they want to bail him out.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:46:13pm

re: #284 Blind Frog Belly White

For fucks sake….

[Embedded content]

[Embedded content]

Video

Hillary did condemn Weinstein.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:46:35pm

God this is pathetic. The GOP literally nominates and elects Trump and the Dems “are just as bad” because Weinstein.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:47:20pm

re: #280 Stanley Sea

Junk
Junk
Junk
Junk

In my case, the very first informed delivery was property tax bills.

:D

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William Lewis  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:47:21pm

re: #285 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

He was white but a little on the swarthy side. My phone shits on me when I try to post images (thin line that conceals the function buttons) but here is a link:
bing.com
Incidentally his bail was set at 5 million. It occurred to me that his family just might be able to post this if they can find a bond company that will accept 15%. They could then get him out the country. I recommend Somalia.

I thought Brazil was still safe from extradition? Certainly they’ll try to avoid the mistakes that the previous afluenza family made.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:47:24pm

re: #287 Eclectic Cyborg

Want to know how Trump became President?

THIS SHIT!

“If you want a vision of the future, imagine a human forehead pounding on a desk, forever.”

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:48:14pm

re: #284 Blind Frog Belly White

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:49:21pm

re: #296 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

Not even a condemnation. In fact, even a rationalization for his own behavior on the AH tape.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:49:49pm

Are Republicans going to condemn James Woods? Or how about Dennis fucking Hasert?

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TedStriker  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:50:12pm

re: #230 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Texas Tech press conference.
m.wlox.com
It was rich white boy’s family who alerted police that he was behaving erratically and MIGHT HAVE A WEAPON. The dead officer’s own gun was found in its holster but the suspect had a gun on him when arrested. It therefore appears that Affluenza Whitey managed somehow to get his own gun into the police station. My prediction: He’ll do 8 or 10 for second degree then spend the rest of his life quietly enjoying his inheritance. If he gets strapped for cash he can hit the fundy church “reformed sinner” circuit and fleece some rubes.

If it had been a poorer white man (student or not) or any POC, they would have had him down on the ground and frisked every inch of him short of giving an anal probe.

A cop wound up dead and many more people wound up in mortal danger while he was loose because the TTPD didn’t do their jobs in securing a suspect properly.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:55:07pm

re: #269 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m reminded of the scene from election day, where he appeared to be trying to cheat off Melania’s ballot.

He wasn’t cheating off her ballot. He was making sure she was voting for him.

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fern01  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:58:46pm

re: #230 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Texas Tech press conference.
m.wlox.com
It was rich white boy’s family who alerted police that he was behaving erratically and MIGHT HAVE A WEAPON. The dead officer’s own gun was found in its holster but the suspect had a gun on him when arrested. It therefore appears that Affluenza Whitey managed somehow to get his own gun into the police station. My prediction: He’ll do 8 or 10 for second degree then spend the rest of his life quietly enjoying his inheritance. If he gets strapped for cash he can hit the fundy church “reformed sinner” circuit and fleece some rubes.

White boy - no search. Given he killed a law officer - I think he will do serious time.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 10, 2017 • 2:58:58pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:02:09pm

re: #282 Dr. Matt

What is USPS informed mail?

You get an email a day with photographs of your incoming.

It’s amazing.

informeddelivery.usps.com

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:03:22pm

re: #302 goddamnedfrank

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scottslemmons  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:03:27pm

Ya know, it’s probably not going to be long before we start hearing about major media pundits, reporters, anchors, producers, etc. who either engaged in or overlooked Weinsteinian/Trumpian behavior.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:04:20pm

re: #305 scottslemmons

Ya know, it’s probably not going to be long before we start hearing about major media pundits, reporters, anchors, producers, etc. who either engaged in or overlooked Weinsteinian/Trumpian behavior.

We already know about FNC.

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fern01  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:04:53pm

re: #302 goddamnedfrank

Just imagine the headlines if Hillary was President. The media hound her - talk about serial harrassment. Damned if she talks (go away you lost) and now damned if she stays silent.

Meanwhile they laugh WITH the f…ing moron with the IQ of 202

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Citizen K  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:15:05pm

re: #284 Blind Frog Belly White

re: #286 EPR-radar

re: #295 Blind Frog Belly White

And of course, the idiots will think it’ll inoculate them from the next ‘liberal media’/’fake news’ attack the right will level at them. Just like it did the last 1,00,010th time….

The double standards here are astounding, and I simply have no idea how we’ll ever get past them…

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:15:16pm

Liddle’ Bob Corker

the case of the illiterate apostrophe

ah yes, watson, i remember it well

310
jaunte  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:20:05pm

“…Carter Page, a former foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, informed the Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday that he will not be cooperating with any requests to appear before the panel for its investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election and would plead the Fifth, according to a source familiar with the matter.”
politico.com

Talky Carter Page is now trying to go silent.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:22:00pm

Evening Lizardim.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:23:20pm

tiLu79uQm81s2RUjpa2mPtxeGVRqyBAy0IDZXxKgl6FF4vEAqTmpMcQOK+OfrZp1U9grgVbP904rPBk68Xf7aQ/z1UxKyHiQqzu4EZnZkrfI30+UDW/6HZX8irVjjFIqqbtOXMgg89+kbpdfK4PoKXBN9txUDXyxoDZbrLQwNtDJU+XYpfC8QjAcEYQmKuAuG/kJSepZDkOaJu1OL611XDInOxhzXV7V1ufFUPKXjQmmCQ24FyB1ox+xZS4UdnOScVYwGODlSulxlnxvNtH3hQvUmkZMEaEwbiYTvuKdjiAxsKnmti72mVRf+9AG5Xea56H+dzxIrnolR9e/28UCM10VG+zhHs7t

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:24:13pm

re: #312 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

IyDYBk4Bq0jr3rYKvGgZ6hlaOtrF+RmGq4N9Odqgx0OGe+ZdvA4yQS8qSjGvVa5eaYjlf2Ibn24/DsNa1nR3rrDkdYe8FhcINJFbckaQVRmfTDPPk696lVb691xNN/5412N2GMLPNe/3sYv2rVSEC1wny+2VSfJnmx0nmE2irRzAW6xPtCRhF8ov/87dQ9CRtIy0Z8Je46YkijOrZjfxnNqfgl9pjZrF

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:27:11pm

sometimes my glacially slow internet connection gives me wee gifts:

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:27:43pm

re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth

sometimes my glacially slow internet connection gives me wee gifts:

[Embedded content]

It’s the little things in life.

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jaunte  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:33:32pm

A “breakdown in communication” between WH and Pentagon.

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whitebeach  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:33:59pm

re: #285 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Incidentally the shooter’s bail was set at 5 million. It occurred to me that his family just might be able to post this if they can find a bond company that will accept 15%. They could then get him out the country. I recommend Somalia.

Hmmm. Does anybody know the last time a black or Hispanic suspect was granted bail at all on charges of killing a cop in Texas?

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TedStriker  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:35:50pm

re: #317 whitebeach

Hmmm. Does anybody know the last time a black or Hispanic suspect was granted bail at all on charges of killing a cop in Texas?

Fuck, if they weren’t gunned down on the spot, they’d certainly get the death penalty in court.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:36:35pm

been posted yet?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:37:05pm

3. Concrete operational stage: from ages seven to eleven. Children can now conserve and think logically (they understand reversibility) but are limited to what they can physically manipulate. They are no longer egocentric. During this stage, children become more aware of logic and conservation, topics previously foreign to them. Children also improve drastically with their classification skills

despite it being very common to describe trump as a ten-year-old, piaget would seem to classify him in a earlier developmental stage

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:37:41pm

re: #319 Birth Control Works

been posted yet?

[Embedded content]

Lovely plumage.

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KGxvi  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:38:04pm

re: #310 jaunte

“…Carter Page, a former foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, informed the Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday that he will not be cooperating with any requests to appear before the panel for its investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election and would plead the Fifth, according to a source familiar with the matter.”
politico.com

Talky Carter Page is now trying to go silent.

Subpoena his ass and make him take the Fifth on national television, over and over and over again.

323
Birth Control Works  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:38:50pm

speaking of Brazil:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:38:57pm

re: #317 whitebeach

Hmmm. Does anybody know the last time a black or Hispanic suspect was granted bail at all on charges of killing a cop in Texas?

Actually, anyone other than a white guy shooting a cop in ANY state.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:40:21pm

re: #319 Birth Control Works

been posted yet?

[Embedded content]

ooooh! North Ronaldsay…I’ve been there!
And there are so many birds there, I am amazed that this little guy managed to get bird spotted!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:40:36pm

re: #292 HappyWarrior

God this is pathetic. The GOP literally nominates and elects Trump and the Dems “are just as bad” because Weinstein.

“Your sexual harrasser is worse than our sexual harrasser!”

327
Dave In Austin  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:40:42pm

re: #322 KGxvi

I know some wingnuts that would be choking on that. Especially after that whole IRS bullshit.

328
jaunte  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:40:46pm
329
Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:41:48pm

re: #312 The Vicious Babushka

xcO5YgdEFQrgwHhHzcZfjOtzy90BX66f

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:42:03pm

re: #328 jaunte

[Embedded content]

must be why their ratings are tanking….

side-eyeing at the yam…

331
Bass Reeves  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:43:26pm

re: #224 lawhawk

Is the floor pooper actually helping write tweets for him?

332
Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:44:10pm

re: #331 Bass Reeves

Dear God, I hope not.

333
Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:44:25pm

I didn’t even know Weinstein was running for President. Senate maybe?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:45:39pm
335
Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:47:13pm

Looks like we started something.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:47:33pm
337
Brian J.  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:48:42pm

re: #57 Dr. Matt

[Embedded content]

I’m the only Democrat in my office, but when this subject came up during an office meeting, I asked if there was a decimal point missing. Everyone laughed.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:50:49pm
339
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:51:11pm

oh….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:52:08pm
341
freetoken  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:57:24pm

re: #328 jaunte

There is no reason to believe Time-Warner has any interest in fighting against Trump. They are to benefit like all corporations from any tax breaks that the GOP/Trump can gin up.

Furthermore, it is clear that TV news consumers tend to be older, which Fox discovered years ago. CNN is simply giving that market what they want and in general the older TV audience wants escapist good news, not hard hitting investigative journalism.

That might be me stereotyping, but I believe it will hold up under scrutiny.

There are very few national news outlets that are not beholden to corporate overlords.

Even NPR tends towards the don’t-rock-the-boat approach.

342
freetoken  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:57:43pm

I also assert that most serious journalism is print journalism, not television.

343
jimmyvluv4u  Oct 10, 2017 • 3:58:45pm

On the Weinstein topic, this is a pretty surprising story to me. Good on Terry Crews for talking about this.

Terry Crews Says He Was a Victim of a Hollywood Male Sexual Predator, Tells His Story on Twitter

344
dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 10, 2017 • 4:03:27pm

so you mean to say that trumpskyites can’t figure out that bringing up weinstein serves only to cast a harsher shadow on their own complicity in electing an admitted sexual predator president of the united states??

345
Skip Intro  Oct 10, 2017 • 4:05:47pm

re: #344 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Except it doesn’t.

346
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2017 • 4:05:58pm

re: #342 freetoken

I also assert that most serious journalism is print journalism, not television.

has been such since the beginning.
that’s why the PTB always suppress learning to read.

347
Birth Control Works  Oct 10, 2017 • 4:06:00pm

bbl

348
dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 10, 2017 • 4:07:08pm

re: #345 Skip Intro

Except it doesn’t.

how so?

349
freetoken  Oct 10, 2017 • 4:08:13pm

McKibben gave a talk at Yale today, and it’s already online, and he’s quite in tune with today’s topic of tweets:

Chubb Fellowship Lecture : “Simply Too Hot: the Desperate Science and Politics of Climate”

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 10, 2017 • 4:08:44pm

re: #328 jaunte

And SNL hasn’t run Weinstein jokes! There you have it; smoking gun proof of a gay-communo-Muslim Mexican fake news gun-grabber conspiracy.

351
Bass Reeves  Oct 10, 2017 • 4:09:19pm

re: #348 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Because the Right will point to completely irrelevant people on the “left” that mirror the behaviors of their elected officials to point out that ‘both sides do it’ and that the left can’t complain because automatic hypocrites.

Basically because gaslighting is a way of life on the Right.

352
Renaissance_Man  Oct 10, 2017 • 4:11:00pm

re: #348 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

how so?

Because the American media will hammer on about it being the biggest scandal of the year, possibly of all time. What Americans know is defined by their media. They stopped talking about Trump’s sexual scandals months ago, therefore it no longer exists in the public consciousness. Weinstein, on the other hand, could be construed to make Clinton and Obama look bad, therefore it is now the biggest scandal of the year, and will be front page news from now until the next disaster.

353
Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 10, 2017 • 4:12:40pm

There can be little doubt that Saturday Night Live is influenced by Marx.
Groucho and Harpo anyway, not sure about Zeppo and the others.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 10, 2017 • 4:15:18pm

re: #353 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

There can be little doubt that Saturday Night Live is influenced by Marx.
Groucho and Harpo anyway, not sure about Zeppo and the others.

and what about lennon, comrade!

355
Skip Intro  Oct 10, 2017 • 4:23:50pm

re: #348 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

how so?

Nobody’s talking about Trump. They’re talking about Hillary’s association with Weinstein.

Trump is just untouchable, because the media has made it that way since the primaries.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 10, 2017 • 4:26:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2017 • 4:27:19pm

re: #356 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

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Citizen K  Oct 10, 2017 • 4:30:06pm

re: #352 Renaissance_Man

re: #355 Skip Intro

And the more you try to push back on it, the more the media will simply make it about the Dems while the GOP gets away with fucking everything behind their backs because ‘boys will be boys’ bullshit.

I hate this country. I fucking hate it, mostly because it quite clearly hates me and mine so dearly that it made and entrenches GOP power ad infinitum.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 10, 2017 • 4:44:07pm

re: #356 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

Unite around him & send your kids to war.

Riiiiight.

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EPR-radar  Oct 10, 2017 • 4:51:27pm

re: #356 goddamnedfrank

No fucking way do we unite around t****. If that happens, this little experiment in self-governance really will be over.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 10, 2017 • 4:57:02pm

re: #288 ObserverArt

I think many have noticed it, this just clarifies what we all suspected and adds a clinical description to it from someone that studies linguistics. It’s good to get some reinforcement sometimes so we know we aren’t just hating or being picky.

When Trump was younger, his speech patterns were more appropriate to his educational background and age. He wasn’t an Obama, but he could at least speak in entire paragraphs and make sense. Now, he’s regressed to the 12 year old level. Whether it’s a sham or some clinical neurological problem, I can’t say.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Oct 10, 2017 • 5:04:57pm

re: #319 Birth Control Works

been posted yet?

[Embedded content]

Be very careful bird watchers. I recall an American Robin being excitedly watched in a park in London by thousands - when it was attacked and killed by a cat.

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BeachDem  Oct 10, 2017 • 5:54:12pm

re: #328 jaunte

[Embedded content]

OK, I’ll bite—why the fuck is/was it significant?

Because Chris Cilizza is like a fucking dog with a bone when it comes to Hillary?

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retired cynic  Oct 10, 2017 • 6:55:44pm

re: #227 John Carter

Yea, this was my point. I met a lot of smart so called “dumb people”. They always seem to surprise me with their intelligence in various areas. It started out as a humbling experience and then it evolved into a learning moment for me. Intelligence takes many forms and only some of them are measurable.

The term around here is “educated stupid.”


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Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit - American Girl10/13/2017 Encore on night 4 of Ryman residency
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WALK the MOON - Headphones Get WALK THE MOON's “One Foot” and "Headphones" Instantly When You Pre-Order The New Album 'What If Nothing':iTunes - wtmband.comAmazon - wtmband.comSpotify Pre-Save - wtmband.comGoogle Play - wtmband.comMerch Store - wtmband.com Stream "Headphones" Now:Apple Music - wtmband.comSpotify - wtmband.com ...
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Nightmare at PDX In all, Cristina was held for 48 hours with the jail population, though she had committed no crime. She was treated poorly, and denied medical treatment when she requested it. She had no money in her jail phone account ...
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First-Ever Sex Discrimination Legal Network Is Ready to Defend Women in Trump’s America Shortly after the election, the attorneys and advocates who work at the National Women’s Law Center (NWLC) started having a conversation. It seemed that the incoming Trump administration was likely to move backward on enforcing civil rights, loosening regulations, ...
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Meet Rhiannon Giddens, Newly Minted MacArthur ‘Genius’ As a solo artist — and, before that, as a member of the Carolina Chocolate Drops — singer-songwriter Rhiannon Giddens has made a career out of revitalizing and invigorating decades' worth of music reflecting the African-American experience. That's meant ...
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Lies About Black America Are ‘Central’ to Gun Ownership: A Reporter on What We Get Wrong About Gun Violence Lies that the GOP and Donald Trump promote all day long. “If you look at the neighborhoods where [gun violence] is most clustered,” Beckett said, it’s located in areas with high levels of poverty, low levels of education, and ...
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St. Vincent Performs ‘Los Ageless’ One of Stephen's very favorite singer-songwriters collaborates with three pairs of boots to perform a song off her new album "Masseduction". Subscribe To "The Late Show" Channel HERE: bit.lyFor more content from "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert", click ...
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Star Wars: The Last Jedi Trailer (Official) Watch the new trailer for Star Wars: The Last Jedi and see it in theaters December 15. Get your tickets now: fandango.com Visit Star Wars at starwars.comSubscribe to Star Wars on YouTube at youtube.comLike Star Wars on Facebook at ...
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Brazil Branches of US-Based Church Target of Numerous Probes Church Based human trafficking and forced labor -- it's just religious freedom in action.../// When workers made a mistake, such as cutting a frame too short, she says they were screamed at and sometimes even hit to expunge the ...
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