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JordanRules  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:06:56pm

He’ll spend his dying breath trying to take on Obama and anything related.

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freetoken  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:07:48pm

Feckless.

That’s the word of the day.

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:08:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:08:06pm

re: #1 JordanRules

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He’ll spend his dying breath trying to take on Obama and anything related.

Yep. His sole political purpose for existing is to screw Obama.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:10:58pm

re: #5 jaunte

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We never learn.

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JordanRules  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:13:00pm
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JordanRules  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:13:43pm

re: #5 jaunte

Cognac is gone.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:14:26pm

Gah. By the time I land in LA tomorrow, the ACA will likely be dead. Along with a bunch of people.

Fuck Trump and the horses he rode in with.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:14:27pm

re: #7 JordanRules

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But but Harvey Weinstein!

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:18:30pm

Andrew Harrer/Getty

A Portrait of Powerful, Relaxed Stability.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:21:14pm

re: #11 jaunte

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A Portrait of Powerful, Relaxed Stability.

I see that scowling face and I just sigh. Why is this man our President. I never liked him. Always thought he was an arrogant and obnoxious prick.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:22:02pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

I see that scowling face and I just sigh. Why is this man our President. I never liked him. Always thought he was an arrogant and obnoxious prick.

because enough people wanted an arrogant, obnoxious prick as prez

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:22:13pm

The Madness of King Don

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JordanRules  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:22:58pm

re: #11 jaunte

Why does he always do the drug jaw clench?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:24:14pm

re: #13 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

because enough people wanted an arrogant, obnoxious prick as prez

Rhetorical question. I know why.

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:24:23pm

re: #15 JordanRules

I’m sure there were people who at one time or another told him it looked goofy, but he always had enough money to get rid of people when they said things he doesn’t want to hear.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:24:52pm

re: #17 jaunte

I’m sure there were people who at one time or another told him it looked goofy, but he always had enough money to get rid of people when they said things he doesn’t want to hear.

He is someone who has never learned the meaning of the word no.

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:26:53pm

re: #11 jaunte

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:28:27pm

re: #19 teleskiguy

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The face that commands a whole flock of Right Wing Pupit Pimping Preachers to endlessly kiss the King’s Ass!

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:29:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:29:47pm

We are where are. I have never felt so lost in my own country.

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:33:29pm

re: #22 HappyWarrior

A poem from the middle ages:

In my own country I am in a far-off land
I am strong but have no force or power
I win all yet remain a loser
At break of day I say goodnight
When I lie down I have a great fear
Of falling.
-François Villon

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:35:32pm

re: #23 teleskiguy

A poem from the middle ages:

That’s beautiful man.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:35:41pm

You know, that’s what I thought might be the reason.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:41:44pm

re: #9 wheat-dogg

Gah. By the time I land in LA tomorrow, the ACA will likely be dead. Along with a bunch of people.

Fuck Trump and the horses he rode in with.

Oh but there will be a major boom in GoFundMe appeals, Church bake sales and a sharp increase of coin cans in 7-11’s all across the country…

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:44:35pm

Kissinger is 94

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:57:32pm

In the Seth Meyers clip, Trump said that the orders he will sign to help people with their health insurance will cost America nothing. He is probably speaking the literal truth — because he is transferring costs to the consumer who will be unable to afford health care and will either die or go bankrupt or both. We need to be contacting our Senators and Congressmen to stop this evil man and evil government from destroying health care.

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retired cynic  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:59:24pm

re: #28 Hecuba’s daughter

In the Seth Meyers clip, Trump said that the orders he will sign to help people with their health insurance will cost America nothing. He is probably speaking the literal truth — because he is transferring costs to the consumer who will be unable to afford health care and will either die or go bankrupt or both. We need to be contacting our Senators and Congressmen to stop this evil man and evil government from destroying health care.

I think the courts are more important now, aren’t they?

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:05:27pm

re: #29 retired cynic

I think the courts are more important now, aren’t they?

It is certainly possible that whatever action he takes is legal. Laws are not always written carefully enough to escape deliberate sabotage by someone in power. And thanks to the malfeasance and malice of the GOP, it was never possible to pass subsequent legislation to correct any flaws in the ACA.

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:06:36pm
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retired cynic  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:07:14pm

re: #30 Hecuba’s daughter

It is certainly possible that whatever action he takes is legal. Laws are not always written carefully enough to escape deliberate sabotage by someone in power. And thanks to the malfeasance and malice of the GOP, it was never possible to pass subsequent legislation to correct any flaws in the ACA.

For sure, but I don’t see Congress stepping up to stop him. The Rs don’t seem to have any backbone at all.

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retired cynic  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:07:51pm

Ugh. Calling it a night.

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:16:50pm
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austin_blue  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:35:51pm

The President of the United States is a Lying Piece of Shit.

This should be the headline on every paper in the US tomorrow. If it was, he would be gone in a month, but it won’t happen despite being the truth.

It is staring us in the face.

I think it is likely, unless cooler heads slap him upside the head, that we are going to have a nuclear exchange with North Korea, and it will result in the destruction of South Korea.

The stupid Motherfucker may be pushing us to Armageddon.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:39:28pm

re: #36 austin_blue

The stupid Motherfucker may be pushing us to Armageddon.

This is precisely what the Radical KKKristians want. They are stupid enough to believe that JC and his Sonshine Band are going to turn on the Holy Hoover Vacuum Cleaner and suck them up into heaven before the nukes go off.

They’re going to get the well-deserved shock of their lives when JC pulls a no show…

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Kragar  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:22:42pm
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JordanRules  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:36:10pm

Of course.

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:40:41pm

re: #39 JordanRules

I’m still seeing @rosemcgowan. Must’ve been reinstated.

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:42:13pm

re: #40 teleskiguy

She got Twitter timeout for 12 hours.

I got Twitter timeout for *seven days* once.

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JordanRules  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:49:12pm

The garbage was everywhere.

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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:22:21am

A viable write-in option emerges. Good!

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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:31:55am

LOL!!!

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:39:48am
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mmmirele  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:43:38am

re: #41 teleskiguy

She got Twitter timeout for 12 hours.

I got Twitter timeout for *seven days* once.

She got Twitter timeout for 12 hours AFTER she removes the offending Tweet(s). I’m wondering if it’s the one where she tells Ben Affleck to fuck off or makes the accusation of rape that Twitter wants her to take down.

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:43:43am
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teleskiguy  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:50:48am
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teleskiguy  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:04:24am

Seriously, tweeting Lizards. If you have an idea for a tweet storm, tap that big blue ‘Tweet’ button on the upper right side at the top. Type it all in! LGF will break it down into a tweet storm, with numbers and appropriate line breaks, automatically! It’s kind of cool.

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teleskiguy  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:20:51am
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:21:03am
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:27:22am

uh oh

predicted middle of the night high winds here in the fire stricken bay area may be starting up now

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:56:51am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:58:31am
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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:12:42am

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cool. Nice heads up for insomniacs, thanks!

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451_Montag  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:10:24am

re: #15 JordanRules

Why does he always do the drug jaw clench?

Apparent!y it is to hide his multiple chins. Seriously.

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I cannot.  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:16:01am

This is bad in so many ways…apparently Weird Mike thinks that Midol and buzzsaw rhyme…what the?

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:20:17am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:33:07am

ICE ordered a local businessman to sell his business so they can deport him to Colombia, refusing to renew his E-2 visa. They claim he doesn’t meet the “strict requirements of an E-2 visa.”

He came to the USA as an exchange student sponsored by a company in Iowa. When he complained about the living conditions he was staying in (they were supposed to find sponsors for the exchange students but they never did), the company said they would ship him off to the smallest town in Nebraska they could find.

So they did. They sent him to Minatare (pop. 800, a bit west of here). He finished school there, then went to Western Nebraska Community College, finished his college in Colombia and Argentina, said to his father he wanted to “go home” (Minatare), then returned and started a business in Scottsbluff.

His fiancée came to join him in Minatare, and is attending college now at WNCC.

They are going to return to Colombia and start the residency visa process from there, considering it the ethical thing to do.

An E-2 visa is a business investment visa (which includes starting businesses). Under prior administrations his visa renewals were never a problem.

More on this poor guy’s plight at the Scottsbluff (NE) Star-Herald. He considers Minatare his home.

Thanks, GOP, the party of non-support of small business - gotta hate Latinos more.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:34:15am

(Added link to the newspaper article after I left it out to the comment above.)

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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:40:32am

Vann is in PR for The Atlantic.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:11:44am

re: #61 JordanRules

Vann is in PR for The Atlantic.

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But that doesn’t get Trump and conservatives wealthcare for billionaires.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:15:20am

re: #61 JordanRules

Vann is in PR for The Atlantic.

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Trump intends to let 3 million Americans fall into permanent 3rd-world misery. At least he might let the Corps of Engineers open some mass graves before they leave.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:18:14am

re: #63 Decatur Deb

Trump intends to let 3 million Americans fall into permanent 3rd-world misery. At least he might let the Corps of Engineers open some mass graves before they leave.

The GOP is a death cult.

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I cannot.  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:19:19am

re: #64 Anymouse 🌹

The GOP is a death murder cult.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:19:46am

“I Hate Everyone in the White House!”: Trump Seethes as Advisers Fear the President Is “Unraveling” (Goes to Vanity Fair)

The article is by Gabriel Sherman. He starts with “In recent days, I’ve spoken with a half dozen prominent Republicans and Trump advisers, and they all describe a White House in crisis as advisers struggle to contain a president that seems to be increasingly unfocused and consumed by dark moods.”

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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:21:06am

re: #63 Decatur Deb

Here too one must presume.

Also remember Flint everyone…for another glimpse into the future of many more American cities.

Not one word about Cali yet either. We’ll see if Fox & Friends brings it up here shortly.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:21:20am

re: #61 JordanRules

Vann is in PR for The Atlantic.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:21:51am

re: #64 Anymouse 🌹

The GOP is a death cult.

True…..but real death cult leaders would disavow the GOP.

Thulsa Doom gives the GOP a disapproving eye.
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Citizen K  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:40:15am

It’s 8:30 in the morning.

I already want to go back to bed. This entire country is a fucking disaster zone, in some cases literally. And our president, our ruling party that essentially owns the entire fucking country at this point, shows open, naked malice for large parts of the country because of the color of their skin, because of their sex, because of their political affiliation. They want the entire fucking country for themselves and themselves alone, and they’re on the way to doing it, genocide by intentional neglect, genocide by economic sabotage, genocide by state-sponsored murder, etc.

This country fucking hates us. And I’m too tired to be angry anymore.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:42:28am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:44:23am

LOL

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Stephen T.  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:48:55am

re: #15 JordanRules

Why does he always do the drug jaw clench?

I swear it’s because he’s had a lifetime amphetamine use. I can’t prove it, but his mannerisms, behavior, physical build and mental acuity seem to match the symptoms of it.

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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:50:30am

re: #73 Stephen T.

I’ve long thought that as well.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:56:09am
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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:00:50am

Cheesus…… Sea Mexicans

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Citizen K  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:05:17am

re: #76 Dave In Austin

Cheesus…… Sea Mexicans

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Dammit. I thought us Filipinos were supposed to be the Sea Mexicans. Or was that Mexicans of the Pacific?

(And yes, I’ve heard the latter, mostly as a comparison to the Philippines’ poverty and being a general source of cheap labor in East Asian countries and such)

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jeffreyw  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:09:47am

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Good morning!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:11:13am

re: #77 Citizen K

Dammit. I thought us Filipinos were supposed to be the Sea Mexicans. Or was that Mexicans of the Pacific?

(And yes, I’ve heard the latter, mostly as a comparison to the Philippines’ poverty and being a general source of cheap labor in East Asian countries and such)

I’ve never heard the slur “Sea Mexican” used either for Puerto Ricans or Filipinos. It took me zero seconds to figure out it was a slur when I saw that though.

Who even says stuff like that? Have I been living a sheltered life ever since my mother got me out of Dixie and segregated schools when I was six?

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Citizen K  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:14:00am

re: #79 Anymouse 🌹

I’ve never heard the slur “Sea Mexican” used either for Puerto Ricans or Filipinos. It took me zero seconds to figure out it was a slur when I saw that though.

Who even says stuff like that? Have I been living a sheltered life ever since my mother got me out of Dixie and segregated schools when I was six?

I’ve never heard ‘Sea Mexicans’ either, but it did remind me of ‘Mexicans of the Pacific’ enough to make the comparison. I’m not sure if Rick Wilson simply coined it as a comment on Trump’s racism and contempt for Hispanic-Americans in general, or if it was something actually used, but…yeah.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:14:19am

The national embarrassment continues, as international outlets take up Donald Trump’s IQ boast about Rex Tillerson:

Can we tell if Donald Trump has a high IQ?

I notice Mr. Trump hasn’t taken up American Mensa’s offer for a test.

October is the month American Mensa promotes a membership drive, and this year they have waived all the fees for tests (they usually give a discount).

It wouldn’t even cost Mr. Trump anything to take them up on it, and the Washington DC group has several testing sessions scheduled this month… .

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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:22:17am

Where was he radicalized?

Disgusting part 1.

Disgusting part 2.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:23:09am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:24:51am

Well, Trumpy ain’t gonna like this - and come to think of it, Israel might not either.

Iran is one of the world markets that everyone wanted recently to get a share of with the prospect of sanctions ending, oil and gas exports starting in a significant way, and imports rolling in as the country starts to modernise.

US president Donald Trump’s often voiced reservations about the nuclear deal with Iran, which paved the way for the market opening thaw, could prove a problem for that trade scenario but Trump’s threats have still to take effect.

And the Czech Republic, although not perhaps among the leaders in moves to land some of those orders, has nonetheless been very active in positioning itself in Iran as well in spite of some of its handicaps.

One of those disadvantages has been that official diplomatic relations between Tehran and Prague have been as good as frozen for the last 20 years. The Czech alignment with US-led claims that Iran was developing its nuclear weapons capacity under the guise of a civil programme was one issue and the US funded broadcasts of Radio Free Europe to Iran out of Prague was another factor in cooling relations.

But full scale diplomatic relations between Prague and Tehran now appear on the verge of being restored, according to the Czech business daily, Hospodářské Noviny. Within weeks the two countries should confirm their respective ambassadors and they should take up their posts, the paper adds. It adds that the experienced diplomat and head of the current Czech office in Tehran, Svatopluk Čumba, has already been given the nod by the Iranians that he can take up the post. The process should be completed by the end of the year.

radio.cz

Czech Republic might end up on Trump’s shit list.

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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:25:27am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:26:50am

re: #82 JordanRules

On that drug dealer issue, wherever you stand on the death penalty, there is a reason it is only applied to murder.

It used to be applied in some states to rape as well. States eventually got rid of that punishment for rape because if someone raped someone else, there was no reason to leave the victim alive; the criminal had already committed a capital crime.

I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one in my village, but I could see that argument used for drug dealers, and additionally an VIII Amendment argument (unusual punishment).

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:31:04am

So, this young woman is coming to Ostrava - gonna have to check this out, I believe.

Audrey Martells: Song For My Father

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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:31:18am

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹

That history seems lost on some folks in Florida. I do hope someone comes to their senses.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:32:39am

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

Sorry, but this is a nonissue
He is clearly inside a hanger, with Retreat being played outside. There is no requirement to take any action in such a situation.

Now, his complete lack of recognition is another thing entirely

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:34:45am

“Fuck off and die!” - Trump to Puerto Rico, basically.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:34:59am

re: #85 JordanRules

Just like guns, to conservatives there is no possible way to regulate corporate malfeasance. The price of liberty is eternal vigilance (of your personal data being used by corporations).

And folk wonder why I don’t have things like a credit card (well, that and no banks around here issue credit cards and most businesses don’t take them).

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:36:29am
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:39:10am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:41:30am

re: #89 FormerDirtDart

Sorry, but this is a nonissue
He is clearly inside a hanger, with Retreat being played outside. There is no requirement to take any action in such a situation.

Now, his complete lack of recognition is another thing entirely

Well that depends. As reported:

Trump’s act of disrespect occurred during an interview that happened in a hangar at the Air National Guard base in Pennsylvania.

Trump referred to the bugle call as a “nice sound,” and asked Hannity if they were playing it “in honor of his ratings.”

As the official Army website notes, playing “Retreat” is “one of the oldest traditions in the U.S. Army, which dates back to the Revolutionary War.” Playing the song is used “to signal the end of the duty day and pay respect to the nation’s flag.”

I don’t know about the Air National Guard. Every Navy base I was on considered an aircraft hanger with the doors open to be “outside.”

That said, the US Flag Code (almost) gives Donald Trump a (weasel way) out (he didn’t issue a proclamation first):

4 USC Chapter 1 § 10. Modification of rules and customs by President

Any rule or custom pertaining to the display of the flag of the United States of America, set forth herein, may be altered, modified, or repealed, or additional rules with respect thereto may be prescribed, by the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States, whenever he deems it to be appropriate or desirable; and any such alteration or additional rule shall be set forth in a proclamation.

Executive Order No. 10834 issued by President Dwight D. Eisenhower on August 24, 1959, amended the provisions of Title 4, U.S.C., Chapter 1 and established the 50 star Flag as the official Flag of the United States, effective on July 4, 1960.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:41:48am

re: #93 FormerDirtDart

“…anti-Israeli bias”?

Am I missing something here?

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:42:48am

re: #90 Eclectic Cyborg

“Fuck off and die!” - Trump to Puerto Rico, basically.

Just Puerto Rico?

If that fucker kills the ACA with an EO there will be additional “Fuck off and die” deaths everywhere.

And oh yeah…EOs are evil…if your a Black guy Democrat.

Fuck this shit. Not in a good mood today, mighty Casey struck out, booted the ball in the infield too.

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lawhawk  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:43:37am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

The Tangerine toddler was busy this morning on Twitter and it was the usual fact-free bullshit and depraved indifference to the plight of millions of Americans still in the dark without power across Puerto Rico and the USVI.

Trump’s now complaining that the US shouldn’t keep FEMA in those places indefinitely.

He’s right. They should stay until their job is done.

It’s no where near done.

Puerto Rico has 84% of the island still without power. FEMA was aiming to get to 25% in a month, and it looks like they’re not going to make that. FEMA is shuffling officials around, because it’s a complete shitshow and Trump still hasn’t sent sufficient capabilities to the island to get power and basic services restored.

That’s entirely unconscionable, and we should remember when Bush got slammed for his failings with FEMA during and after Katrina. This is significantly worse, because Trump’s doing absolutely nothing different even after the shortcomings were identified.

Gen. Honore took on the lead role in rebuilding efforts and getting the relief efforts back on track.

Trump’s perpetually stuck on fucking moron.

He still thinks he’s doing a great job, even though there’s substantively no change in the power being restored on Puerto Rico. He’s too busy blaming the victims of the disaster for the slow pace of recovery.

When there’s absolutely no infrastructure left because everything was wiped out by a storm that everyone knew was going to do massive damage days in advance, Trump blames the victim.

A true leader would have made sure that resources were mobilized to address critical needs without any delay so that within hours of the storm clearing, help would arrive. They’d be in process of opening the ports and airports so that critical needs get in - generators to power hospitals and critical infrastructure and water and telcom functional.

After natural disasters stateside, we know that telcoms can bring in mobile hotspots/phone sites, so that they can get services up and running. Where’s that effort? Where is a major deployment of the Seabees or Army Corps of Engineers, who have capabilities to do the kind of work needed to clear roads, quickly set up infrastructure, including temporary facilities, etc. Snopes identifies that some units are there, but not particular numbers.

All that takes Trump to issue the orders. He’s too busy thinking about his next round of golf.

It’s particularly telling that the response is godawful when you do a search for Seabees or Army Corps and Puerto Rico, and there’s news from 2 weeks ago, and nothing since.

That is highly suggestive that those units aren’t there in sufficient numbers, because we’d know progress and reports.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:49:38am

re: #95 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

“…anti-Israeli bias”?

Am I missing something here?

Yes. UNESCO recognises Palestine.

theguardian.com

(Article is five years old, in other words, during Obama’s administration)

Controversial move endorsed in UN cultural agency vote despite US threat of withholding £50m in funds

The State Department issued a statement saying a twenty-six year old law (from today) prohibited funding any UN agency that recognises Palestine. That law was adopted in 1991, during the George HW Bush administration.

Conservatives have had a (redacted) for apartheid for a long time.

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Citizen K  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:54:30am

re: #93 FormerDirtDart

Further ceding any reputation or responsibility we have on the global scale. Yet the way you hear it from conservatives, Trump is somehow making the world ‘respect’ us again after Obama.

I’d love to live in this conservative utopia these assholes seem to be making, where everything is hunky dory and perfect, but I can’t delude myself enough for that.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:56:38am

re: #75 Dave In Austin

I think Jack is more of a Gamergater.

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I cannot.  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:58:18am

re: #100 Belafon

Gamergaters and White Nationalists are functionally identical by this point.

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makeitstop  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:59:16am

re: #96 ObserverArt

Not in a good mood today, mighty Casey struck out, booted the ball in the infield too.

I’m frankly stunned. I watched until about the 5th inning (when CLE was clawing their way back and got it to 3-2) then went to practice for a gig this weekend.

Honestly, I wrote NY off when they were 0-2. But like they say, that’s why they play the games.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:00:04am

re: #97 lawhawk

The GOP is interested in genocide in Puerto Rico.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:00:10am
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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:00:27am

re: #92 FormerDirtDart

Sorry, Karin, “happening” is the wrong tense. It didn’t start in 2017. People need to get it through their heads.

As the 11th Doctor said, we’re not repelling an invasion, we’re leading a revolution.

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makeitstop  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:00:44am

Heh.

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Citizen K  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:01:19am

re: #100 Belafon

I think Jack is more of a Gamergater.

re: #101 I cannot.

Gamergaters and White Nationalists are functionally identical by this point.

Gamergaters paved the way for the Channer-brand of white supremacism. It’s the predecessor to online Trumpism, easily, and showed how quickly millennial right-wing woo is easily snapped up by mainstream as gospel truth.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:03:27am
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:05:34am
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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:06:28am

David Duke has got to be jealous of all the shine the whippersnapper Nazis are getting.

Another day in normalization.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:06:29am

re: #108 FormerDirtDart

Conservatism: The ideology of genocide (tm).

I am not an advert person for the Democrats, but this ought to be out front-and-centre, that the GOP cares more about money than life.

Take that “pro-life” party name from them and apply it to ourselves. We actually care about lives.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:08:49am

re: #110 JordanRules

David Duke has got to be jealous of all the shine the whippersnapper Nazis are getting.

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Another day in normalization.

Yep he’s getting normalized in a way Duke never was.

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Citizen K  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:08:56am

re: #109 FormerDirtDart

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:09:17am

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹

Conservatism: The ideology of genocide (tm).

I am not an advert person for the Democrats, but this ought to be out front-and-centre, that the GOP cares more about money than life.

Take that “pro-life” party name from them and apply it to ourselves. We actually care about lives.

Yeah, but we don’t want to use it to oppress women. How can it be pro-life if we won’t oppress women? Huh? Huh?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:12:49am

re: #114 Belafon

Yeah, but we don’t want to use it to oppress women. How can it be pro-life if we won’t oppress women? Huh? Huh?

That too. Oppressing women is not pro-life. It’s pro-slavery.

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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:13:35am

Good news!

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:13:41am

So, farting around watching TV here and they’re showing an episode of Kommissar Rex - and this particular 1996 episode (“Der Puppenmörder”) is noteworthy as it stars Christoph Waltz as the villain of the piece and the episode itself was directed by Oliver Hirschbiegel - the guy who later directed Der Untergang.

It’s like Columbo in its prime, LOL.

imdb.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:14:43am

Why the fuck does Spencer get so much attention anyway?

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Citizen K  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:16:25am

re: #118 Eclectic Cyborg

Why the fuck does Spencer get so much attention anyway?

Because he’s ‘dapper’ and ‘personable’. People like their pretty faces on their fascism to make it palatable.

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makeitstop  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:18:25am

I don’t think Trump wants to defeat Kim Jong Un - he wants to be Kim Jong Un. This is some straight up Dear Leader bullshit right here.

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Renaissance_Man  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:23:17am

re: #118 Eclectic Cyborg

Why the fuck does Spencer get so much attention anyway?

Because he’s well-spoken and normalises racism and Nazi ideology. The underlying goal of the networks is to make average white people feel fearful of the other, thus solidifying a tribal loyalty, and to make them feel better about their darker side. Average white people, in the age of FOX, are becoming more hateful and more racist. Thus putting someone like Spencer out makes them feel better about themselves because they can look at someone who sounds smart and think that their own dark thoughts are okay. It’s no different than the nauseating ‘understand Trump voter’ thinkpieces.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:25:43am

re: #120 makeitstop

I don’t think Trump wants to defeat Kim Jong Un - he wants to be Kim Jong Un. This is some straight up Dear Leader bullshit right here.

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You know he’s jealous of Kim for having a system in place already to do away with pesky opposition.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:32:32am

Why did Vikings have ‘Allah’ embroidered into funeral clothes? (goes to the BBC)

I imagine Curious Lurker would have found this fascinating, and might have been able to add to this. I regret I only knew her here for a short time.

Researchers in Sweden have found Arabic characters woven into burial costumes from Viking boat graves. The discovery raises new questions about the influence of Islam in Scandinavia, writes journalist Tharik Hussain.

They were kept in storage for more than 100 years, dismissed as typical examples of Viking Age funeral clothes.

But a new investigation into the garments - found in 9th and 10th Century graves - has thrown up groundbreaking insights into contact between the Viking and Muslim worlds.

Patterns woven with silk and silver thread have been found to spell the words “Allah” and “Ali”.

(more at the link)

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:35:55am

re: #120 makeitstop

That is a petition on the White House Website, not a directive from Trump. (That said, it is crap.)

The VA for a long time now hasn’t played any news channels at all, as the VA Health Service finds that the news is sometimes stressful for patients.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:38:16am

I think he might be upset:

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makeitstop  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:43:13am

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹

That is a petition on the White House Website, not a directive from Trump. (That said, it is crap.)

The VA for a long time now hasn’t played any news channels at all, as the VA Health Service finds that the news is sometimes stressful for patients.

The fact that it’s a petition on the White House web site is close enough for me. And the fact that this is being handed out at Trump’s hotel suggests that someone in the Thug Cabal has seen it, and approves.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:43:36am

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹

My guess is that, being practical people (and I suspect a good word for them is practical, in that they used whatever was available), they wanted to cover all the bases in the deity department. Why not make sure all the gods were happy?

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Mike Lamb  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:44:06am

re: #104 FormerDirtDart

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But there are millions of Latinos in Texas, so he can’t be racist…

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:44:14am

re: #112 HappyWarrior

Yep he’s getting normalized in a way Duke never was.

I think there is a reason for that. David Duke only got a small portion of his generation (Boomers) to buy into his crap.

Sadly it appears Spencer has a far greater backing from his, thus making him bring enough numbers for the media to want to cover him. And his “topic” seems to be way more popular now than when Duke started to get national attention in the late 70s early 80s.

This is a bad change in directions for our country.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:44:31am

re: #11 jaunte

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A Portrait of Powerful, Relaxed Stability.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:47:35am

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

We have no problem sending food and fuel into space, but Puerto Rico….

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:47:35am

re: #129 ObserverArt

I think there is a reason for that. David Duke only got a small portion of his generation (Boomers) to buy into his crap.

Sadly it appears Spencer has a far greater backing from his, thus making him bring enough numbers for the media to want to cover him. And his “topic” seems to be way more popular now than when Duke started to get national attention in the late 70s early 80s.

This is a bad change in directions for our country.

I think there’s validity to that. But I also wonder if the internet has allowed Spencer to spread his message and get more positive reception than Duke did back i nthe day.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:47:45am

re: #129 ObserverArt

I think there is a reason for that. David Duke only got a small portion of his generation (Boomers) to buy into his crap.

Sadly it appears Spencer has a far greater backing from his, thus making him bring enough numbers for the media to want to cover him. And his “topic” seems to be way more popular now than when Duke started to get national attention in the late 70s early 80s.

This is a bad change in directions for our country.

I think that’s because boomers had well-paying jobs handed to them whether they were skilled or not. People who see their standard of living fall well below their parents, who fell below their own parents, are much more receptive to xenophobia.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:50:20am

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹

Why did Vikings have ‘Allah’ embroidered into funeral clothes? (goes to the BBC)

I imagine Curious Lurker would have found this fascinating, and might have been able to add to this. I regret I only knew her here for a short time.

(more at the link)

First guess: The Vikings bartered for the pretty North African clothes with squiggly words.
Second guess: They stole them.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:50:56am

re: #133 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The percentage of racists isn’t really changing. I think the big difference is that Spencer is emboldened by Trump, and too many news stations are trying to be “balanced” which means showing more white people.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:52:36am

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹

Why did Vikings have ‘Allah’ embroidered into funeral clothes? (goes to the BBC)

I imagine Curious Lurker would have found this fascinating, and might have been able to add to this. I regret I only knew her here for a short time.

(more at the link)

The Swedish name for Jesus is Jesus Allahson.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:54:10am

re: #133 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I think that’s because boomers had well-paying jobs handed to them whether they were skilled or not. People who see their standard of living fall well below their parents, who fell below their own parents, are much more receptive to xenophobia.

You may be on to something there too. I think there’s a lot of factors that have sadly made my generation more receptive than it ought to be to xenophobia.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:54:41am

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think he might be upset:

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:55:28am

re: #132 HappyWarrior

I think there’s validity to that. But I also wonder if the internet has allowed Spencer to spread his message and get more positive reception than Duke did back i nthe day.

The message, no matter how it is spread, is only received if people want to accept it.

David Duke was not accepted when he was 30 something. He did get quite a bit of news coverage for the time. But that news coverage was also a part of the time, it was neutral to favorable. He was more or less shut down.

I think the fact that David Duke popped back up the last few years was because even he saw things are different now and there is an audience ready to accept the message of White Supremacy.

It’s freaking sad that this is even a thing now. But then, so much bad crap has come back again. Ignorance of the past.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:56:35am

re: #139 ObserverArt

The message, no matter how it is spread, is only received if people want to accept it.

David Duke was not accepted when he was 30 something. He did get quite a bit of news coverage for the time. But that news coverage was also a part of the time, it was neutral to favorable. He was more or less shut down.

I think the fact that David Duke popped back up the last few years was because even he saw things are different now and there is an audience ready to accept the message of White Supremacy.

It’s freaking sad that this is even a thing now. But then, so much bad crap has come back again. Ignorance of the past.

That’s certainly true as well. There definitely is an audience more receptive to his message than there was in the past.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:57:45am

re: #140 HappyWarrior

The fact that a black dude with a scary sounding foreign name could become President of the United States really crossed their circuits.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:58:57am

I think the big question isn’t if this generation is more receptive to it, it may be why. Maybe there’s something to Jeff says in 133 about how economic problems for today’s young people have made it more receptive. But then again, Spencer himself comes from a well to do background as do a lot of these guys and a lot of these guys are getting their start on college campuses so they’re not exactly totally struggling either. I myself have known struggle given my hard times in the past of finding employment and of the interview process as a whole but I never really considered resorting to xenophobia.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:59:03am

re: #139 ObserverArt

A black man as president has shaken a lot of white people. They know if they don’t damage things now, if minorities are allowed to be seen as equals, they’ll have to play by the same rules as everyone else.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 7:59:22am

re: #141 GlutenFreeJesus

The fact that a black dude with a scary sounding foreign name could become President of the United States really crossed their circuits.

That’s true.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:01:10am

re: #142 HappyWarrior

We saw stats last year showing that Millennials had about the same level of racism as their parents.

I think Trump has emboldened a lot of them, but I think they’re also desperate to hold onto the power they think they have, even though it isn’t real.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:01:40am

At the risk of sounding polyanna and stereotypically lefty, I really have never judged someone on their race or ethnic background. I’ve always been aware of other races and ethnicity of course. But I never thought “Hey this person must be inferior to me because of their culture or skin color.” That thought never has crossed my mind. I’ve had classmates, friends, co-workers, and now even extended family from all over.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:02:05am

re: #145 Belafon

We saw stats last year showing that Millennials had about the same level of racism as their parents.

I think Trump has emboldened a lot of them, but I think they’re also desperate to hold onto the power they think they have, even though it isn’t real.

Yeah I do remember that. I was so disappointed by that.

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nines09  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:02:21am

Ahhh…not real Neil. My bad. Need more coffee…..

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:03:24am

re: #133 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I think that’s because boomers had well-paying jobs handed to them whether they were skilled or not. People who see their standard of living fall well below their parents, who fell below their own parents, are much more receptive to xenophobia.

There is some truth to that too.

But look at the Spencer backers. Look at the pictures of the Tiki Torch crowd. I don’t think there is a lot of down on their luck jobless 25 to 40 year olds there. And, they manage to travel to Charlottesville from all over America to put on their show. That take some bucks.

Too many are rich White punks that have nothing better to do than fucking be blockheaded assholes. It is in some ways a fashion. And they have Mommy and Daddy to bail their punk asses out of jail for being dicks.

Maybe they need fucking jobs because they have too much free time.

And Happy is correct, the internet is damn good for followers of fashion.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:08:20am

re: #148 nines09

Read his thread. Spot on, and just how I feel about social media in general, outside of this oasis anyway. It’s like a wall of shit. You can’t push it, you only sink into it. Like pissing into the wind. Sad commentary on something that was supposed to be better.

Is there a socially conscious person with money who would be willing to start an alternative? Could we GoFundMe a buyout of Twitter?

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:11:19am

I think Facebook and Twitter point out that we need a global political commentary forum.

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Citizen K  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:12:05am

re: #142 HappyWarrior

I think the big question isn’t if this generation is more receptive to it, it may be why. Maybe there’s something to Jeff says in 133 about how economic problems for today’s young people have made it more receptive. But then again, Spencer himself comes from a well to do background as do a lot of these guys and a lot of these guys are getting their start on college campuses so they’re not exactly totally struggling either. I myself have known struggle given my hard times in the past of finding employment and of the interview process as a whole but I never really considered resorting to xenophobia.

The internet has a lot to do with it, I feel like. The ease in which these kinds of ideologies have been able to spread online unchecked cannot be understated, and I feel like it hooks a lot of these guys early through curiosity and shared ‘community’ and taboo. Like ‘these are the things your parents won’t really tell you!’ or bullshit like that. I’d say some alienation issues contributes too, but it doesn’t explain everything since it feels like a huge amount of these assholes are bullies in real life too, rather than the disaffected type that feel like they NEED to turn toward online for community.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:12:10am

re: #150 Belafon

Is there a socially conscious person with money who would be willing to start an alternative? Could we GoFundMe a buyout of Twitter?

It would have to be someone willing to take a huge loss. Twitter is a money-hole, and any alternative will be too unless someone finds a way to make a profit is what so far has been a derp-fest.

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:14:27am

Saw this on Ari Melber’s The Beat last night.

Fucking Zuck. Dude is such an ass.

Iframe

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:14:46am

re: #152 Citizen K

The internet has a lot to do with it, I feel like. The ease in which these kinds of ideologies have been able to spread online unchecked cannot be understated, and I feel like it hooks a lot of these guys early through curiosity and shared ‘community’ and taboo. Like ‘these are the things your parents won’t really tell you!’ or bullshit like that. I’d say some alienation issues contributes too, but it doesn’t explain everything since it feels like a huge amount of these assholes are bullies in real life too, rather than the disaffected type that feel like they NEED to turn toward online for community.

Right. And then there’s the whole “not being politically correct” thing which is pretty much an excuse to be an insensitive asshole without repercussions.

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nines09  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:15:17am

re: #150 Belafon

Think back to the reasons you got on facebook or twitter. Do they even exist anymore? Facebook allowed me to connect to some people that I had lost touch with, and see my relatives and children from afar. After that, it’s a sewer. Far too many people not who I thought them to be. Twitter I got on and just watched for years before I jumped. Still not sure it was worth the aggravation.

I’ve been waiting for something to go up against ebay. Still waiting.

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William Lewis  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:18:09am

re: #153 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It would have to be someone willing to take a huge loss. Twitter is a money-hole, and any alternative will be too unless someone finds a way to make a profit is what so far has been a derp-fest.

While this would be a good place for a Soros joke, I’d suggest that if you wanted to be serious, there is only one possible answer: Berkshire Hathaway.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:18:10am

re: #110 JordanRules

David Duke has got to be jealous of all the shine the whippersnapper Nazis are getting.

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Another day in normalization.

On right after that, “Hitler, was he really such a bad guy?”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:18:32am

re: #149 ObserverArt

There is some truth to that too.

But look at the Spencer backers. Look at the pictures of the Tiki Torch crowd. I don’t think there is a lot of down on their luck jobless 25 to 40 year olds there. And, they manage to travel to Charlottesville from all over America to put on their show. That take some bucks.

Too many are rich White punks that have nothing better to do than fucking be blockheaded assholes. It is in some ways a fashion. And they have Mommy and Daddy to bail their punk asses out of jail for being dicks.

Maybe they need fucking jobs because they have too much free time.

And Happy is correct, the internet is damn good for followers of fashion.

I’d love to see a study done on the socio-economic status of them. I think they would prove your thesis right that they’re mostly people who are doing quite well for themselves. The whole down on their luck Trumper was disproved too.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:19:03am

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹

That is a petition on the White House Website, not a directive from Trump. (That said, it is crap.)

The VA for a long time now hasn’t played any news channels at all, as the VA Health Service finds that the news is sometimes stressful for patients.

When I started with the VA three years ago that was something I had worried about - maybe having to watch Fox on the TVs. But they do educational channels here in Ann Arbor.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:20:26am

re: #158 Eventual Carrion

On right after that, “Hitler, was he really such a bad guy?”

You jest but I often see it in the comments on videos about Nazis on YouTube. People insisting that we should have helped Hitler rather than Stalin during WWII. I mean far be it for me to defend Stalin but uh yeah. That kind of goes what I’ve said about today’s kids having less people in their life who remember the Nazis. But I dunno.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:20:47am

re: #156 nines09

Think back to the reasons you got on facebook or twitter. Do they even exist anymore? Facebook allowed me to connect to some people that I had lost touch with, and see my relatives and children from afar. After that, it’s a sewer. Far too many people not who I thought them to be. Twitter I got on and just watched for years before I jumped. Still not sure it was worth the aggravation.

I’ve been waiting for something to go up against ebay. Still waiting.

As others have noted here, I am a Luddite, as I never saw a need to get on Twitter and Facebook.

Considering how much complaining others do about the Dumpster fire that they are, I am surprised they stay.

Is it really worth staying on those platforms to “stay in touch with family” when we have ancient Luddite technologies like telephone service? Letters? E-mail?

I guess I just don’t understand the attraction. I don’t mind poking around Twitter looking for humorous tweets, but doing things like “curating” a Facebook page or Twitter timeline take time I don’t wish to expend.

I certainly don’t need a pile-on of a bunch of Nazis suddenly overtaking my pages if I had them.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:21:44am

re: #157 William Lewis

While this would be a good place for a Soros joke, I’d suggest that if you wanted to be serious, there is only one possible answer: Berkshire Hathaway.

Perhaps I should send Mr. Buffett a letter. Who knows? He might think that’s a good idea.

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Citizen K  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:22:41am

re: #155 HappyWarrior

Right. And then there’s the whole “not being politically correct” thing which is pretty much an excuse to be an insensitive asshole without repercussions.

The most depressing thing I keep taking away is just how…not new this is. This shit wasn’t just created. Just brought out into the open. This racism has existed and fostered and festered. Just…now there doesn’t seem to be much reason to hide it or even code it anymore. And we only went maybe a couple of decades where it wasn’t ok to outright let the freak flag fly before reverting back to the mean.

It feels like this is just what America is, and always will be, no matter how hard it’s fought. America IS Racism, and trying to change it will just eventually get you swallowed up by the hate and spite that truly defines it, forever.

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:23:09am

re: #161 HappyWarrior

You jest but I often see it in the comments on videos about Nazis on YouTube. People insisting that we should have helped Hitler rather than Stalin during WWII. I mean far be it for me to defend Stalin but uh yeah. That kind of goes what I’ve said about today’s kids having less people in their life who remember the Nazis. But I dunno.

Isn’t that what Chucky C Rage Furby said in what Charles has in last evening’s thread?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:24:15am

To me, so many people have to think in absolutes these days. You can’t just be a center-left liberal like I imagine many of us would describe ourselves as here, no you have to be a socialist, you have to be a libertarian, you have to be fascist, etc. I freely admit that my ideology isn’t always 100% consistent in a logical sense but it is something I find feasible in a complex world.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:25:05am

re: #164 Citizen K

The most depressing thing I keep taking away is just how…not new this is. This shit wasn’t just created. Just brought out into the open. This racism has existed and fostered and festered. Just…now there doesn’t seem to be much reason to hide it or even code it anymore. And we only went maybe a couple of decades where it wasn’t ok to outright let the freak flag fly before reverting back to the mean.

It feels like this is just what America is, and always will be, no matter how hard it’s fought. America IS Racism, and trying to change it will just eventually get you swallowed up by the hate and spite that truly defines it, forever.

I think that’s why I’ve been so disillusioned lately man. I’ve been finding myself wondering if we were always this way and it’s something that can’t be escaped.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:25:35am

re: #165 ObserverArt

Isn’t that what Chucky C Rage Furby said in what Charles has in last evening’s thread?

Trying to remember. But it wouldn’t shock me.

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nines09  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:26:34am

re: #162 Anymouse 🌹

My point.
I have a few reasons to keep my FB account. I don’t post, have very few “friends” and do not follow anyone who posts lies or stupidity.

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William Lewis  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:28:19am

re: #161 HappyWarrior

You jest but I often see it in the comments on videos about Nazis on YouTube. People insisting that we should have helped Hitler rather than Stalin during WWII. I mean far be it for me to defend Stalin but uh yeah. That kind of goes what I’ve said about today’s kids having less people in their life who remember the Nazis. But I dunno.

The German fascists were an existential threat to the world in 1940. The Soviets, no matter how hellishly evil, were not. Our priorities in taking out the Nazi’s and then containing the Soviets was exactly correct despite what these hateful fucks may try to say in their ignorance.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:28:29am

re: #164 Citizen K

The most depressing thing I keep taking away is just how…not new this is. This shit wasn’t just created. Just brought out into the open. This racism has existed and fostered and festered. Just…now there doesn’t seem to be much reason to hide it or even code it anymore. And we only went maybe a couple of decades where it wasn’t ok to outright let the freak flag fly before reverting back to the mean.

It feels like this is just what America is, and always will be, no matter how hard it’s fought. America IS Racism, and trying to change it will just eventually get you swallowed up by the hate and spite that truly defines it, forever.

I can’t get on twitter, so I can’t find the exact quote, but it went something like “Racism is so much a part of America that when you attack racism, people think you’re attacking America.” Yes, racism is part of America, and I don’t think we’ll ever get rid of it. But then again, Germany has outlawed Nazism and yet it still thrives.

Not to sound clichey, but it will always be about the journey, because we will never reach the destination.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:29:34am

re: #166 HappyWarrior

To me, so many people have to think in absolutes these days. You can’t just be a center-left liberal like I imagine many of us would describe ourselves as here, no you have to be a socialist, you have to be a libertarian, you have to be fascist, etc. I freely admit that my ideology isn’t always 100% consistent in a logical sense but it is something I find feasible in a complex world.

Well, no two people hold exactly the same views.

With three hundred million people plus in the country, it is a bit easier to lump people into general categories such as “liberal,” “conservative,” “libertarian,” &c based on what they generally hold to be acceptable.

For example, if you supported the following things: expansion of women’s reproductive healthcare access, easing ability to vote, higher taxation of corporate profits, expansion of infrastructure spending, and strong support for gun rights: Does the gun rights issue make you suddenly a “conservative” or “libertarian?”

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makeitstop  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:29:44am

re: #169 nines09

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calochortus  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:30:02am

re: #162 Anymouse 🌹

Is it really worth staying on those platforms to “stay in touch with family” when we have ancient Luddite technologies like telephone service? Letters? E-mail?

I’m not on Facebook or Twitter either. I do talk to my (adult) kids. However, if your kids have kids of their own and particularly if they don’t live near you, Facebook is where the information appears. The pictures, the videos, the fact that they have cut a tooth, whatever because the parents only have to put the info up once, not write letters to 2 sets of grandparents, 5 or 6 aunts and uncles, and a dozen cousins. There are actual advantages.

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:30:22am

re: #162 Anymouse 🌹

As others have noted here, I am a Luddite, as I never saw a need to get on Twitter and Facebook.

Considering how much complaining others do about the Dumpster fire that they are, I am surprised they stay.

Is it really worth staying on those platforms to “stay in touch with family” when we have ancient Luddite technologies like telephone service? Letters? E-mail?

I guess I just don’t understand the attraction. I don’t mind poking around Twitter looking for humorous tweets, but doing things like “curating” a Facebook page or Twitter timeline take time I don’t wish to expend.

I certainly don’t need a pile-on of a bunch of Nazis suddenly overtaking my pages if I had them.

It’s a thing. And as Charles has said about them, if you are running a site like this, they are a necessary evil to drive people to the site. Why? Because it is a thing. And Facebook and Twitter know it too, that is why they aren’t changing. It works and they make big bucks.

I know one thing. After watching that crap that Ari Melber showed with Zuckerberg’s totally tone deaf bullshit Virtual Tour of Puerto Rico, I hope the whole Facebook thing crashes and burns. That has got to be one of the most fucked up things ever. And I hope I never have to hear that asshole say he is going to run for President.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:30:34am

The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carrol - Bob Dylan (5/7/65) Bootleg
Been listening to this a lot and thinking about what K has just said.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:30:59am

re: #170 William Lewis

The German fascists were an existential threat to the world in 1940. The Soviets, no matter how hellishly evil, were not. Our priorities in taking out the Nazi’s and then containing the Soviets was exactly correct despite what these hateful fucks may try to say in their ignorance.

Absolutely.

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Citizen K  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:32:48am

re: #167 HappyWarrior

I think that’s why I’ve been so disillusioned lately man. I’ve been finding myself wondering if we were always this way and it’s something that can’t be escaped.

Like I said, it’s amazing how not new this is. How America always seems to react to some reversion to the mean after every big stride made by PoCs. Emancipation, you get Jim Crow. Black Wall Street gets the Tulsa “Race Riots”. Civil Rights Movements gets the assassinations of MLK, Malcom X, redlining, busing riots. Affirmative Action gets you three strike laws and the War on Drugs. The first black president gets immediately replaced by the Nazi’s and KKK’s favorite President who has made it his life’s work to undo every single fucking thing Obama had his name on, as well as scale back every single fucking bit of good that PoCs could maybe see in this country before. Black Lives Matter gets “All Lives Matter”, “Blue Lives Matter” and the continued unchecked treatment of communities like fiefdoms by PDs, further enabled by Sessions Department of Just Us.

This is America, where every strive for equality is consistently met with an opposite backlash and backfire to ensure any gains you get are minimal at best, to remind you this is A Country For White Men, and White Men Alone.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:33:36am

Pigs on parade in the WH right now. Destroying health care for America.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:33:40am

re: #172 Anymouse 🌹

Well, no two people hold exactly the same views.

With three hundred million people plus in the country, it is a bit easier to lump people into general categories such as “liberal,” “conservative,” “libertarian,” &c based on what they generally hold to be acceptable.

For example, if you supported the following things: expansion of women’s reproductive healthcare access, easing ability to vote, higher taxation of corporate profits, expansion of infrastructure spending, and strong support for gun rights: Does the gun rights issue make you suddenly a “conservative” or “libertarian?”

I’m talking about people who feel the need to take the absolute position on issues. People don’t want see nuance. For instance, one can’t simply support the right of a person to own handguns and rifles but oppose civilians owning AKs and support background checks. It has to be one or all. You can’t be a capitalist who supports some socialist ideas and you can’t be a socialist who supports some capitalist ideas.

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rhuarc  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:34:10am

Oof. One example of how the world sees the US now.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:34:33am

re: #178 Citizen K

Like I said, it’s amazing how not new this is. How America always seems to react to some reversion to the mean after every big stride made by PoCs. Emancipation, you get Jim Crow. Black Wall Street gets the Tulsa “Race Riots”. Civil Rights Movements gets the assassinations of MLK, Malcom X, redlining, busing riots. Affirmative Action gets you three strike laws and the War on Drugs. The first black president gets immediately replaced by the Nazi’s and KKK’s favorite President who has made it his life’s work to undo every single fucking thing Obama had his name on, as well as scale back every single fucking bit of good that PoCs could maybe see in this country before. Black Lives Matter gets “All Lives Matter”, “Blue Lives Matter” and the continued unchecked treatment of communities like fiefdoms by PDs, further enabled by Sessions Department of Just Us.

This is America, where every strive for equality is consistently met with an opposite backlash and backfire to ensure any gains you get are minimal at best, to remind you this is A Country For White Men, and White Men Alone.

Yep and as a white man it just saddens me. I really do believe this land is a land for all regardless of our racial, ethno, or religious backgorund.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:35:00am

This is disgusting

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:36:31am

re: #162 Anymouse 🌹

As others have noted here, I am a Luddite, as I never saw a need to get on Twitter and Facebook.

Considering how much complaining others do about the Dumpster fire that they are, I am surprised they stay.

Is it really worth staying on those platforms to “stay in touch with family” when we have ancient Luddite technologies like telephone service? Letters? E-mail?

I guess I just don’t understand the attraction. I don’t mind poking around Twitter looking for humorous tweets, but doing things like “curating” a Facebook page or Twitter timeline take time I don’t wish to expend.

I certainly don’t need a pile-on of a bunch of Nazis suddenly overtaking my pages if I had them.

If you had a facebook account from literally the platform’s inception like I have, you might understand. It’s a quick way to get in touch with people. Facebook anyhow is a great, quick way of organizing events too.

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Citizen K  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:36:55am

re: #171 Belafon

I can’t get on twitter, so I can’t find the exact quote, but it went something like “Racism is so much a part of America that when you attack racism, people think you’re attacking America.” Yes, racism is part of America, and I don’t think we’ll ever get rid of it. But then again, Germany has outlawed Nazism and yet it still thrives.

Not to sound clichey, but it will always be about the journey, because we will never reach the destination.

The main difference with Germany is that it came to grips with its Nazi past, didn’t shy away from it but actively rejected it.

We glorify our racist past to the point the Confederacy is more revered than the Union. We’re so far away from the kind of reckoning Germany had to deal with precisely because we don’t WANT that reckoning. America loves its racist past even while it makes gestures toward trying to be better, because it doesn’t want to be better. So much of the country so desperately wishes it could be the Confederacy, the only thing keeping it from being the de facto Confederacy again is that they haven’t re-enstated true slavery…yet.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:37:46am

re: #181 rhuarc

Oof. One example of how the world sees the US now.

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He ain’t wrong. Sigh.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:38:17am

re: #185 Citizen K

Didn’t the equivalent of the Nazi party gain a seat in Germany recently?

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Citizen K  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:38:27am

re: #182 HappyWarrior

Yep and as a white man it just saddens me. I really do believe this land is a land for all regardless of our racial, ethno, or religious backgorund.

I wish I could believe that still. I used to believe it once upon a time. But that hope in me has been squashed dead.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:38:49am

But speaking of Britain. My cousin who lives there was telling me the very rise of Trump lowered our prestige and the election well. I’ve been abroad gosh four times now. I never hide that I’m American and I don’t think I ever will but I have no problem saying this, Trump does embarrass me to be an American.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:39:08am

re: #188 Citizen K

I wish I could believe that still. I used to believe it once upon a time. But that hope in me has been squashed dead.

I can’t say I blame you.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:43:01am

re: #127 Belafon

My guess is that, being practical people (and I suspect a good word for them is practical, in that they used whatever was available), they wanted to cover all the bases in the deity department. Why not make sure all the gods were happy?

In the book Gods and Myths of Northern Europe by H.R. Ellis Davidson, she talks about how Christianity possibly got a foothold in the west. The west was pretty open to polytheism, so pretty much put up with any/all religions. The Christians just kinda came in and setup shop and no one really bothered with it because there were a bunch of other religions being practiced all over.

Then the Christians starting insinuating themselves over the years with the rulers of western countries. They then weaseled their way into convincing some rulers that Christianity should be the only religion they should let their people observe.

I think many Christian leaders now days might know this history and are really worried that someone else (Islam?) might try executing that same game plan, so all other religions must be eradicated before Christians get done unto themselves what they have done unto others.

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nines09  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:43:51am

re: #173 makeitstop

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Citizen K  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:44:10am

re: #187 Belafon

Didn’t the equivalent of the Nazi party gain a seat in Germany recently?

I know that AfD, the far-right party in Germany, had a major breakthrough, which is worrisome. But it’s still not to the level that our neo-Confederacy has won out in the US, and still significantly less purchase than the far-right has found in other Euro countries.

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:44:35am

re: #174 calochortus

I’m not on Facebook or Twitter either. I do talk to my (adult) kids. However, if your kids have kids of their own and particularly if they don’t live near you, Facebook is where the information appears. The pictures, the videos, the fact that they have cut a tooth, whatever because the parents only have to put the info up once, not write letters to 2 sets of grandparents, 5 or 6 aunts and uncles, and a dozen cousins. There are actual advantages.

I wonder too if people are spread out way more now than ever. Families used to be closer and they used to get together more for cookouts, picnics, birthdays, graduations, reunions and other shared family activities.

And they could catch up, share pictures, meet the new members of the family, etc. They even could let others know about the black sheep family members and how they were doing. That was social media. And in ways it kept down the rancor because if Uncle John said something that got Nephew Jimmy upset, grandpa would step in and read the family riot acts. All 25 parts.

A lot of that is gone.

I felt old typing the words picnic and reunion. Do people even do those anymore?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:45:31am

re: #174 calochortus

I’m not on Facebook or Twitter either. I do talk to my (adult) kids. However, if your kids have kids of their own and particularly if they don’t live near you, Facebook is where the information appears. The pictures, the videos, the fact that they have cut a tooth, whatever because the parents only have to put the info up once, not write letters to 2 sets of grandparents, 5 or 6 aunts and uncles, and a dozen cousins. There are actual advantages.

It definitely does have its usages. Social media does allow people to connect like they never have before and that’s a double edged sword unfortunately but the positives outweigh the negatives IMO.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:47:31am

re: #194 ObserverArt

I wonder too if people are spread out way more now than ever. Families used to be closer and they used to get together more for cookouts, picnics, birthdays, graduations, reunions and other shared family activities.

And they could catch up, share pictures, meet the new members of the family, etc. They even could let others know about the black sheep family members and how they were doing. That was social media. And in ways it kept down the rancor because if Uncle John said something that got Nephew Jimmy upset, grandpa would step in and read the family riot acts. All 25 parts.

A lot of that is gone.

I felt old typing the words picnic and reunion. Do people even do those anymore?

We still do family gatherings. Not as much as we used to but I think it’s because of what you say above about families being less closer though perhaps in our case, geography plays a role there too. But you know the cool thing about social media and the recent genealogy craze is it’s also brought people together too. I’ve met cousins of my mom’s I never would have known otherwise and I talked to a distant cousin on my Dad’s side the other night.

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:48:16am

re: #184 HappyWarrior

If you had a facebook account from literally the platform’s inception like I have, you might understand. It’s a quick way to get in touch with people. Facebook anyhow is a great, quick way of organizing events too.

How did we ever live without it?!

: )

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:49:27am

re: #197 ObserverArt

How did we ever live without it?!

: )

You will pry Google Maps out of my cold, dead hands.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:49:34am

re: #184 HappyWarrior

If you had a facebook account from literally the platform’s inception like I have, you might understand. It’s a quick way to get in touch with people. Facebook anyhow is a great, quick way of organizing events too.

We used to use cell phones for that, and before that landlines, back when people talked to each other instead of typing.

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:52:13am

re: #196 HappyWarrior

We still do family gatherings. Not as much as we used to but I think it’s because of what you say above about families being less closer though perhaps in our case, geography plays a role there too. But you know the cool thing about social media and the recent genealogy craze is it’s also brought people together too. I’ve met cousins of my mom’s I never would have known otherwise and I talked to a distant cousin on my Dad’s side the other night.

I meant physical difference with the ‘closer’ bit. Not so much closer as in together as a family unit. That too has changed and factors in. That is another discussion.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:52:27am

re: #199 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

We used to use cell phones for that, and before that landlines, back when people talked to each other instead of typing.

Yep, and you’d call, and the person wouldn’t be there. So, you’d call again later, and then person still wouldn’t be there. And then you’d get busy, and forget to call a third time. And finally the thing you needed to resolve would be passed and you were screwed.

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Citizen K  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:52:37am

Blegh. I’m just going to leave off with this before I disappear for lunch. Because this is where my head remains at right now:

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:53:21am

re: #197 ObserverArt

How did we ever live without it?!

: )

I honestly can’t imagine. Anyhow and this is why I disagree with AM’s “just use a phone or letter.” One of my cousins, we didn’t know each other well at all when I was growing up because well she lived a few hours away and thus didn’t go to the family gatherings. But anyhow, when Facebook became accessible to all adults, she joined, added me, and we’ve become really tight. My brother likewise formed a similiar bond with another cousin who lived far away. I’m sure when the phone was invented, there were people wondering why people didn’t just write letters.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:53:50am

re: #200 ObserverArt

I meant physical difference with the ‘closer’ bit. Not so much closer as in together as a family unit. That too has changed and factors in. That is another discussion.

Oh physical distance has certainly changed things too.

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calochortus  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:54:14am

re: #194 ObserverArt

I wonder too if people are spread out way more now than ever. Families used to be closer and they used to get together more for cookouts, picnics, birthdays, graduations, reunions and other shared family activities.

And they could catch up, share pictures, meet the new members of the family, etc. They even could let others know about the black sheep family members and how they were doing. That was social media. And in ways it kept down the rancor because if Uncle John said something that got Nephew Jimmy upset, grandpa would step in and read the family riot acts. All 25 parts.

A lot of that is gone.

I felt old typing the words picnic and reunion. Do people even do those anymore?

That is probably true for some families, but mine has been pretty scattered at least back through my grandparents’ generation. We just didn’t see all the information about each other that is now available on line. Mr. C’s family did do the reunion thing every so often as they were almost all within a few hours drive of each other.

For some reason my computer isn’t happy with me-I keep getting the spinning beach ball of death, so I’ll catch up with everyone here later. Maybe it will magically fix itself in the interim.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:54:38am

re: #199 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

We used to use cell phones for that, and before that landlines, back when people talked to each other instead of typing.

Some of us aren’t really good on the telephone. I prefer chatting on the computer because it’s more relaxing for me.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:55:01am

re: #201 Belafon

Yep, and you’d call, and the person wouldn’t be there. So, you’d call again later, and then person still wouldn’t be there. And then you’d get busy, and forget to call a third time. And finally the thing you needed to resolve would be passed and you were screwed.

I’d leave a message, and they’d call me back.

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:55:03am

re: #198 Belafon

You will pry Google Maps out of my cold, dead hands.

Hey, I like some of the tech too. But using Google maps doesn’t open you up for comments from assholes. Not yet anyway.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:55:36am

re: #207 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I’d leave a message, and they’d call me back.

I’m old enough to remember when answering machines didn’t exist.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:56:42am

re: #206 HappyWarrior

Some of us aren’t really good on the telephone. I prefer chatting on the computer because it’s more relaxing for me.

More of us than used to be. More of us can’t talk to a person face to face now, too.
Phones made me uncomfortable when I was young, but I had to get past it. Now people don’t, they just avoid talking on the phone.

These days my preferred mode of communication is video calls.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:57:35am

re: #210 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

More of us than used to be. More of us can’t talk to a person face to face now, too.
Phones made me uncomfortable when I was young, but I had to get past it. Now people don’t, they just avoid talking on the phone.

These days my preferred mode of communication is video calls.

I used to hate having to make phone calls. I still do but I make em as part of work.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:57:43am

re: #209 Belafon

I’m old enough to remember when answering machines didn’t exist.

Me too, but at that point in my life, I didn’t have anything urgent or important going on, and we left messages with actual people a lot of the time.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:58:24am

re: #211 HappyWarrior

I used to hate having to make phone calls. I still do but I make em as part of work.

It gets easier.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:59:12am

re: #208 ObserverArt

Hey, I like some of the tech too. But using Google maps doesn’t open you up for comments from assholes. Not yet anyway.

Wait until it goes social. Nice route choice, Libtard!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:59:28am

Anyhow, all this tech has its advantages. re: #213 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It gets easier.

Oh, it has. I was paralyzingly shy as a kid. Even had to have my brother knock on my best friend’s door. I’ve gotten over a lot of my social anxieties but some things are still a little difficult. I don’t like calling customer service for one.

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makeitstop  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:59:30am

re: #192 nines09

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rhuarc  Oct 12, 2017 • 8:59:51am

re: #208 ObserverArt

Hey, I like some of the tech too. But using Google maps doesn’t open you up for comments from assholes. Not yet anyway.

You took the slower route over the faster route. What a cuck! /s

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austin_blue  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:00:00am

re: #97 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

The Tangerine toddler was busy this morning on Twitter and it was the usual fact-free bullshit and depraved indifference to the plight of millions of Americans still in the dark without power across Puerto Rico and the USVI.

Trump’s now complaining that the US shouldn’t keep FEMA in those places indefinitely.

He’s right. They should stay until their job is done.

It’s no where near done.

Puerto Rico has 84% of the island still without power. FEMA was aiming to get to 25% in a month, and it looks like they’re not going to make that. FEMA is shuffling officials around, because it’s a complete shitshow and Trump still hasn’t sent sufficient capabilities to the island to get power and basic services restored.

That’s entirely unconscionable, and we should remember when Bush got slammed for his failings with FEMA during and after Katrina. This is significantly worse, because Trump’s doing absolutely nothing different even after the shortcomings were identified.

Gen. Honore took on the lead role in rebuilding efforts and getting the relief efforts back on track.

Trump’s perpetually stuck on fucking moron.

He still thinks he’s doing a great job, even though there’s substantively no change in the power being restored on Puerto Rico. He’s too busy blaming the victims of the disaster for the slow pace of recovery.

When there’s absolutely no infrastructure left because everything was wiped out by a storm that everyone knew was going to do massive damage days in advance, Trump blames the victim.

A true leader would have made sure that resources were mobilized to address critical needs without any delay so that within hours of the storm clearing, help would arrive. They’d be in process of opening the ports and airports so that critical needs get in - generators to power hospitals and critical infrastructure and water and telcom functional.

After natural disasters stateside, we know that telcoms can bring in mobile hotspots/phone sites, so that they can get services up and running. Where’s that effort? Where is a major deployment of the Seabees or Army Corps of Engineers, who have capabilities to do the kind of work needed to clear roads, quickly set up infrastructure, including temporary facilities, etc. Snopes identifies that some units are there, but not particular numbers.

All that takes Trump to issue the orders. He’s too busy thinking about his next round of golf.

It’s particularly telling that the response is godawful when you do a search for Seabees or Army Corps and Puerto Rico, and there’s news from 2 weeks ago, and nothing since.

That is highly suggestive that those units aren’t there in sufficient numbers, because we’d know progress and reports.

Is Depraved Indifference a High Crime/Misdemeanor? Will that suffice for impeachment? His management skills are such that he is actively killing people.

Give him the Gong!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:00:02am

re: #214 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Wait until it goes social. Nice route choice, Libtard!

“Oh, you’re going to Trader Joes. What are you some kind of vegan, betacuck?”

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:01:09am
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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:01:33am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:01:53am

re: #220 Stanley Sea

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I think he honestly is senile.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:05:12am

re: #221 Dave In Austin

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Wow talk about cognitive dissonance:
“I think there’s a lot of political ground to be gained in pandering to your own side and confirming their biases. I strive not to do that.”’
He does that all the goddamn time. He never challenges his own side. Never. He just brushes off assholes on the right that he dislikes as actually being leftists and doesn’t consider the right’s historical role in the rise of Nazism and fascism.Good article.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:05:36am

Somebody please find the tape

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:06:09am

re: #220 Stanley Sea

What happened?

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BeachDem  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:06:19am

re: #201 Belafon

Yep, and you’d call, and the person wouldn’t be there. So, you’d call again later, and then person still wouldn’t be there. And then you’d get busy, and forget to call a third time. And finally the thing you needed to resolve would be passed and you were screwed.

As a really old old, I remember landlines before answering machines. (Damn I’m old.) When I would have company and the phone would ring, I would just let it ring. My guests would say, “Why aren’t you answering it?” I would respond, “I’m talking with you, so whoever it is can call back when I can talk to them.”

Startling, I know. I have to say that these days when I am out with people and they spend their time scrolling through their cell phones, I get pissed off. They don’t even engage when you’re face to face with them—dog forbid they miss some crap somebody has posted on facebook.

And furthermore—get off my lawn.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:07:07am

re: #221 Dave In Austin

I saw Ben of the Corn’s name attached. What is it?

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:07:54am

re: #225 Belafon

What happened?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:08:34am

re: #227 Belafon

I saw Ben of the Corn’s name attached. What is it?

Basically, the author argues that Ben and those like him on the right who go around to college campuses complaining about “liberal intolerance” are a bunch of chickenshits who are creating the same echo chamber they accuse the left of having.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:08:41am

re: #225 Belafon

What happened?

Brilliant. Trump announces anti-Obamacare executive order then heads for the door.
Mike Pence: “Mr President, you need to sign it…”

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:08:54am

I don’t have any news stuff on today, thank gawd…but I just think I saw where Pauly Ryan killed any changes in gun laws to eliminate bump stocks at a small forum.

I guess it is time to not do anything about guns laws now.

Anyone think the NRA will say anything?

Didn’t think so.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:09:12am

re: #228 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

I liked this scene better in Blazing Saddles because at least we knew Bart and the Waco Kid would be in town to save the day.

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austin_blue  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:09:56am

re: #134 Decatur Deb

First guess: The Vikings bartered for the pretty North African clothes with squiggly words.
Second guess: They stole them.

Trade goods. They owned Siciliy for a while, booting the Moors out:

Viking Age[edit]
In 860, according to an account by the Norman monk Dudo of Saint-Quentin, a Viking fleet, probably under Björn Ironside and Hastein, landed in Sicily, conquering it .[17]

Many Norsemen fought as mercenaries in Southern Italy, including the Varangian Guard led by Harald Hardrada, who later became king of Norway, who conquered Sicily between 1038 and 1040, with the help of Norman mercenaries, under William de Hauteville, who won his nickname Iron Arm by defeating the emir of Syracuse in single combat, and a Lombard contingent, led by Arduin.[18][19] The Varangians were first used as mercenaries in Italy against the Arabs in 936.[20] Runestones were raised in Sweden in memory of warriors who died in Langbarðaland (Land of the Lombards), the Old Norse name for southern Italy.[21]

Later, several Anglo-Danish and Norwegian nobles participated in the Norman conquest of southern Italy, like Edgar the Ætheling, who left England in 1086,[22] and Jarl Erling Skakke, who won his nickname (“Skakke”, meaning bent head) after a battle against Arabs in Sicily.[23] On the other hand, many Anglo-Danish rebels fleeing William the Conqueror, joined the Byzantines in their struggle against the Robert Guiscard, duke of Apulia, in Southern Italy.[24]

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makeitstop  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:11:05am

re: #230 Stanley Sea

Brilliant. Trump announces anti-Obamacare executive order then heads for the door.
Mike Pence: “Mr President, you need to sign it…”

Fuuuuuuuu……

Addled.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:12:02am

re: #229 HappyWarrior

Basically, the author argues that Ben and those like him on the right who go around to college campuses complaining about “liberal intolerance” are a bunch of chickenshits who are creating the same echo chamber they accuse the left of having.

Thanks. I will save it for later.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:12:12am

I don’t see Shapiro’s appeal at all. He’s whiny, a downright dick, and has fucking know it all syndrome.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:12:43am

re: #235 Belafon

Thanks. I will save it for later.

I found it a good read. He called Shapiro out on that stupid cartoon that his website posted on Columbus Day too.

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nines09  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:15:35am

re: #216 makeitstop

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:16:02am

whoo boy

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:16:55am

re: #226 BeachDem

As a really old old, I remember landlines before answering machines. (Damn I’m old.) When I would have company and the phone would ring, I would just let it ring. My guests would say, “Why aren’t you answering it?” I would respond, “I’m talking with you, so whoever it is can call back when I can talk to them.”

Startling, I know. I have to say that these days when I am out with people and they spend their time scrolling through their cell phones, I get pissed off. They don’t even engage when you’re face to face with them—dog forbid they miss some crap somebody has posted on facebook.

And furthermore—get off my lawn.

I admit I watch sports on TV quite a lot. It always amazes me to watch the crowd shots and how many people are looking down at their smart phones and not watching the event they are at.

My favorite thing ever though was watching three young ladies in downtown Columbus walking with each other and all three were on their phones talking. They were approaching an intersection and the walk light changed as did the stop light. All three together walked out into the intersection not noticing anything and just about got hit by a car.

They couldn’t even have one of them aware enough to warn the others.

Connected or disconnected?

Ahhh…this is the Modern World.

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austin_blue  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:17:40am

And a happy 52nd to Bob Schneider. Here’s a live bit from South Austin:

Bob Schneider World Goes Round Live @ Hills Cafe Austin Texas.m4v

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:18:20am

re: #239 Stanley Sea

whoo boy

[Embedded content]

He’s going to claim he did it on purpose if he’s asked about it.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:19:33am

re: #227 Belafon

mobile.nytimes.com

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:19:40am

re: #239 Stanley Sea

whoo boy

[Embedded content]

Love all the laughter at the end.

What a nice light moment for America.

Fucking assholes.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:19:41am

re: #242 HappyWarrior

He’s going to claim he did it on purpose if he’s asked about it.

No one will ask.

(emperor’s new clothes)

They fucking laughed, but I’m sure they walked away with questions. AGAIN.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:20:09am

re: #245 Stanley Sea

No one will ask.

(emperor’s new clothes)

They fucking laughed, but I’m sure they walked away with questions. AGAIN.

True.

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Bubblehead II  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:22:40am

re: #230 Stanley Sea

Brilliant. Trump announces anti-Obamacare executive order then heads for the door.
Mike Pence: “Mr President, you need to sign it…”

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BeachDem  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:22:42am

re: #240 ObserverArt

I admit I watch sports on TV quite a lot. It always amazes me to watch the crowd shots and how many people are looking down at their smart phones and not watching the event they are at.

My favorite thing ever though was watching three young ladies in downtown Columbus walking with each other and all three were on their phones talking. They were approaching an intersection and the walk light changed as did the stop light. All three together walked out into the intersection not noticing anything and just about got hit by a car.

They couldn’t even have one of them aware enough to warn the others.

Connected or disconnected?

Ahhh…this is the Modern World.

I love it when I see people texting to each other instead of talking when they are standing side by side.

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:23:29am

You know, all the letters and calls to try to save the ACA from congress and now this.

What a fucking pile of shit.

The Best Healthcare, this I will tell you.

Executive Orders are the tool of a tyrant that passes over Congress.

Goddamnit all.

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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:26:10am

re: #249 ObserverArt

I’m so angry.

I was so emotionally invested in stopping repeal and replace efforts and it was all useless.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:26:34am

re: #201 Belafon

Yep, and you’d call, and the person wouldn’t be there. So, you’d call again later, and then person still wouldn’t be there. And then you’d get busy, and forget to call a third time. And finally the thing you needed to resolve would be passed and you were screwed.

That’s what they invented the answering machine for. It also works today as a much better call screening device than caller ID (since that can be spoofed).

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makeitstop  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:27:06am

re: #239 Stanley Sea

whoo boy

[Embedded content]

Ha ha ha, Uncle Shouty is so wacky when he forgets things.

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WTF is wrong with these people? They see he’s a fucking imbecile. Why won’t anyone do something?

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:28:47am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:29:11am

re: #252 makeitstop

Ha ha ha, Uncle Shouty is so wacky when he forgets things.

////

WTF is wrong with these people? They see he’s a fucking imbecile. Why won’t anyone do something?

Because incense and peppermints tax cuts and judges.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:30:10am

re: #208 ObserverArt

Hey, I like some of the tech too. But using Google maps doesn’t open you up for comments from assholes. Not yet anyway.

Well, I haven’t been trolled by a paper map yet… .

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:31:15am

His bladder is going to let loose on stage.

Maybe that’ll do it.

Or they’ll just come back with a urinary tract infection excuse.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:31:28am

re: #255 Anymouse 🌹

Well, I haven’t been trolled by a paper map yet… .

Obviously, you need to get more treasure maps. Still haven’t found that damn treasure under that X yet.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:32:12am

re: #256 Stanley Sea

His bladder is going to let loose on stage.

Maybe that’ll do it.

Or they’ll just come back with a urinary tract infection excuse.

He’ll wear adult diapers - his clothes are so generally loose-fitting, it’d be hard to tell.

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TedStriker  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:32:55am

re: #249 ObserverArt

You know, all the letters and calls to try to save the ACA from congress and now this.

What a fucking pile of shit.

The Best Healthcare, this I will tell you.

Executive Orders are the tool of a tyrant that passes over Congress.

Goddamnit all.

re: #250 JordanRules

I’m so angry.

I was so emotionally invested in stopping repeal and replace efforts and it was all useless.

It’s not over and the fight wasn’t and isn’t useless; people fought this in Congress and it will be fought in the courts.

I will not give Trump, Pence, Ryan, and the rest of those sons-of-bitches the satisfaction of thinking they won.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:33:07am

re: #258 Dr Lizardo

He’ll wear adult diapers - his clothes are so generally loose-fitting, it’d be hard to tell.

How do we know he doesn’t already?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:33:31am

Funny how executive orders are okay now.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:34:00am
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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:35:09am

re: #259 TedStriker

Thanks Ted!

I want some hope! I really, really need some hope!
…to the courts we go!

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TedStriker  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:35:20am

re: #261 HappyWarrior

Funny how executive orders are okay now.

inorite?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:35:34am

re: #260 HappyWarrior

How do we know he doesn’t already?

I actually wouldn’t be surprised if he does.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:36:11am

re: #262 Dave In Austin

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What a sick motherfucker.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:36:58am

re: #264 TedStriker

inorite?

Obama actually was by a modern president’s standards very conservative with EOs. Trump meanwhile has majorities in both Houses and uses them whenever.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:37:02am

re: #263 JordanRules

Thanks Ted!

I want some hope! I really, really need some hope!
…to the courts we go!

I want to prepare you for next year. It’s going to be fugly because they are going to try into drive optimists to despair, and block people from voting. We cannot give in to either.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:39:29am

This man is part of a Christian non-profit which brought supplies to Puerto Rico to distribute. He is there now.

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:40:47am

re: #259 TedStriker

It’s not over and the fight wasn’t and isn’t useless; people fought this in Congress and it will be fought in the courts.

I will not give Trump, Pence, Ryan, and the rest of those sons-of-bitches the satisfaction of thinking they won.

Oh, I am not giving up. It is not in my nature. Just pisses me off that he did it with an EO… the tool of the Emperor Obama that the fucking GOP, Fox News and Trump all made a big deal about.

Fucking rat activity.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:43:31am

re: #248 BeachDem

I love it when I see people texting to each other instead of talking when they are standing side by side.

My wife and I have adopted a “no phones”
policy when we go out to eat. We keep them with us but we don’t use them during the meal.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:46:44am

re: #194 ObserverArt

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:46:49am

re: #248 BeachDem

I love it when I see people texting to each other instead of talking when they are standing side by side.

I’ve been known to E-mail my wife when she is sitting right behind me, but it’s mostly to be cute. It’s usually a romantic remark.

That also turns out to be a good way to interrupt her without getting her mad. How do you get mad at someone who just E-mailed “I love you?”

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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:48:17am

re: #268 Belafon

I know what we’re up against. I just thought we had one really important win for a bit.

As fast as things are moving, next year is probably going to be worse than most people fathom right now, especially for marginalized and activist folks.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:48:33am

re: #209 Belafon

I’m old enough to remember when answering machines didn’t exist.

I’m old enough to remember picking up the phone to make a call and having to wait for the neighbor to finish their call on our party line.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:48:34am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:50:50am

re: #275 Eventual Carrion

I’m old enough to remember picking up the phone to make a call and having to wait for the neighbor to finish their call on our party line.

I grew up with a coöperative telephone company. My telephone number was “one long ring, two short rings.”

In my late teenage years, we got dial telephone service and could make local calls without using an operator (to tell her our billing number).

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 9:58:40am
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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:07:03am

Is this the EO where he creates the cheap plans that no one should buy?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:07:11am

Received an E-mail this morning from a friend in northern California saying he was called at midnight to come in and fight fires. I am not sure where he is at the moment.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:07:57am

re: #275 Eventual Carrion

I’m old enough to remember picking up the phone to make a call and having to wait for the neighbor to finish their call on our party line.

I am just old enough that some of the early phone calls I remember making only required you to dial four digits for the local number. But that changed not too long after.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:08:31am

re: #228 Stanley Sea

I read that in Kif’s voice.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:09:06am

I’m still in and out of bed sticking cotton balls in my nose to try to stop the bleeding. Dr. changed RX yesterday and I follow up with him tomorrow. This sinus infection has gone on for a couple weeks and won’t quit…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:10:23am

re: #279 Belafon

Is this the EO where he creates the cheap plans that no one should buy?

Plenty of suckers will buy them. Then when the policies don’t pay out they will resort to GoFundMe.

So nice to live in Ayn Rand’s America, isn’t it??????

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:13:10am

re: #284 Joe Bacon 🌹

Plenty of suckers will buy them. Then when the policies don’t pay out they will resort to GoFundMe.

So nice to live in Ayn Rand’s America, isn’t it??????

That wingnut ponzi scheme will quickly collapse if they succeed in depriving themselves of insurance.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:14:10am

How does this EO not act as a re-write of the ACA (thereby making it unconstitutional)?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:15:10am
Facebook is stunned by this —

Trump: What’s the 25th Amendment?

Of course, he didn’t know about the 25th amendment. That’s why he’s been acting so crazy. You didn’t think he’d be acting this crazy if he knew he could be removed for being crazy, did ya? I mean, hell, he ain’t that crazy.

juanitajean.com

There’s a lot of drama supposedly going down in the White House right now. According to a report from Vanity Fair, tensions are high, Donald Trump is reportedly having insane mood swings, and many members of the administration are miserable. Perhaps the biggest bombshell from all this? Donald Trump didn’t know about the 25th Amendment… which is just, yikes.

Two sources told Vanity Fair that former chief strategist Steve Bannon explained to Trump that he shouldn’t be nervous about impeachment, but rather the 25th Amendment.

To which Trump responded: “What’s that?”

elitedaily.com (more)

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:17:00am

re: #269 Anymouse 🌹

This man is part of a Christian non-profit which brought supplies to Puerto Rico to distribute. He is there now.

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A true practicing Christian then

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:17:27am

re: #286 Mike Lamb

How does this EO not act as a re-write of the ACA (thereby making it unconstitutional)?

I don’t see the EO on the White House Website.

whitehouse.gov

EO’s cannot legally rewrite laws.

I don’t know the text of the EO, but if it does that, it will be instantly subjected to challenges by states, civil libertarian groups, possibly insurance companies, &c.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:18:57am

re: #285 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That wingnut ponzi scheme will quickly collapse if they succeed in depriving themselves of insurance.

But Joni Ernst repeatedly says that people who need medical care just need to go to churches and private charities to ask, er, beg for help!

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Bubblehead II  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:20:19am

re: #289 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t see the EO on the White House Website.

whitehouse.gov

EO’s cannot legally rewrite laws.

I don’t know the text of the EO, but if it does that, it will be instantly subjected to challenges by states, civil libertarian groups, possibly insurance companies, &c.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:20:41am

Hurricane Ophelia is meandering around the Azores now. It is expected to turn NE later today.

The National Hurricane Center predicts a strike on Ireland and Scotland as a hurricane (post-tropical) Monday and Tuesday.

nhc.noaa.gov

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lawhawk  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:23:04am
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nines09  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:24:21am

re: #283 Joe Bacon 🌹

I suffered sinus infections that laid me out. Older I got, worse it became. I would be absolutely punchy. Sick for 4 and 6 weeks at a time just about every year. I would argue with my doctor who would prescribe 7 to 10 days antibiotics. 7 to 10 days later I’d be sick again after some improvement. I read up, sinus area has low blood flow, oral AB is needed for 3 weeks sometimes more. It’s correct. I only got better after I had an MRI that showed a deviated septum and a bone “hook” that did not allow proper drainage. Outpatient surgery and a week of crap and worlds better.
I don’t know what route your doc is on or how frequent your sinus problems are, but I suffered for years before I finally saw a specialist.
Good luck

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:25:12am

re: #279 Belafon

Is this the EO where he creates the cheap plans that no one should buy?

Are you the one who can’t read tweets?

Insurers will raise premiums & leave markets. New entrants will be the junk insurance companies that had gone away.

That’s not competition.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:26:04am

re: #295 Stanley Sea

Are you the one who can’t read tweets?

Insurers will raise premiums & leave markets. New entrants will be the junk insurance companies that had gone away.

That’s not competition.

Thanks.

Nope. It’s a return to crap.

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TedStriker  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:26:49am

re: #296 Belafon

Thanks.

Nope. It’s a return to crap.

MAGA, right?

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:27:14am

re: #295 Stanley Sea

Are you the one who can’t read tweets?

Insurers will raise premiums & leave markets. New entrants will be the junk insurance companies that had gone away.

That’s not competition.

Great insurance to Americans FAST!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:27:37am

re: #294 nines09

I suffered sinus infections that laid me out. Older I got, worse it became. I would be absolutely punchy. Sick for 4 and 6 weeks at a time just about every year. I would argue with my doctor who would prescribe 7 to 10 days antibiotics. 7 to 10 days later I’d be sick again after some improvement. I read up, sinus area has low blood flow, oral AB is needed for 3 weeks sometimes more. It’s correct. I only got better after I had an MRI that showed a deviated septum and a bone “hook” that did not allow proper drainage. Outpatient surgery and a week of crap and worlds better.
I don’t know what route your doc is on or how frequent your sinus problems are, but I suffered for years before I finally saw a specialist.
Good luck

Drs have already gone into that possibility. However, I am on Humira to keep my RA in check and that weakens my immune system. One of these days I’ll find the person who peed in my DNA and get even…

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:30:37am
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nines09  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:31:52am

re: #299 Joe Bacon 🌹

One MRI would erase that possibility. Just a thought. If I had done it sooner I would have avoided months of misery. It was like I had a concussion at times.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:32:11am

re: #300 Stanley Sea

What about the fact they’re on Twitter?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:34:14am

re: #301 nines09

One MRI would erase that possibility. Just a thought. If I had done it sooner I would have avoided months of misery. It was like I had a concussion at times.

I had that done back with no copay. Now thanks to the Tangerine Tyrant I may have to do the GoFundMe routine when the bills go back to what they were before the ACA was passed!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:34:27am

The claim is this photo is the West Point football team.

Is that so, or no? (I don’t know enough about football to be able to tell.)

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:34:45am

re: #300 Stanley Sea

It’s a cult.

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William Lewis  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:36:40am

re: #304 Anymouse 🌹

The claim is this photo is the West Point football team.

Is that so, or no? (I don’t know enough about football to be able to tell.)

Photo?

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plansbandc  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:37:37am

Tweet bullshit
Renege on your promises
Undermine The Constitution
Make shit up
Play the victim

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:39:02am

re: #307 plansbandc

Tweet bullshit
Renege on your promises
Undermine The Constitution
Make shit up
Play the victim

Add—Be sure to talk about your “deep Christian faith” at every opportunity!

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Dr. Matt  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:39:17am

Have any lawsuits been filed yet to prevent Dotard’s latest executive grab?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:39:39am

re: #300 Stanley Sea

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That is not the job of the White House receptionist.

Apparently conservatives screaming “we want our country back” was projection from them, also.

If this crap keeps up, I really wonder if it will be safe for me to remain where I am. As the only elected Democrat in ninety thousand square miles, I have a target painted over me the size of a section of land (and I’m not talking about a political target).

I can’t afford to move though, and I can’t afford to live in an expensive place like California or Massachusetts on my minuscule disability compensation.

GoFundMe to help airlift a liberal veteran and his wife to safety?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:40:07am

re: #300 Stanley Sea

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JFC.

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I cannot.  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:40:08am

Question: We know about Puerto Rico’s debt problem, especially since Twitler took the time to remind us about it, repeatedly. Can we, as individuals, do something about it?

i.e. buying up some of their bonds and…then what? Burn them? Mail them back?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:40:09am

re: #306 William Lewis

Photo?

Oops.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:41:31am

re: #312 I cannot.

Question: We know about Puerto Rico’s debt problem, especially since Twitler took the time to remind us about it, repeatedly. Can we, as individuals, do something about it?

i.e. buying up some of their bonds and…then what? Burn them? Mail them back?

The bonds are primarily held by such entities as hedge funds and speculators.

You would need to buy the bonds from them.

Presumably, they would want a significant profit. It would take a lot of money.

In theory, you can tear up any bond if you want.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:42:29am

re: #300 Stanley Sea

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I’m not surprised at all. That’s precisely what I would expect to hear from President Shithead and his stooges in the Lily White House!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:44:37am

re: #313 Anymouse 🌹

Oops.

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I can’t tell for sure but that may be a pregame prayer. I dunno though.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:45:29am

re: #313 Anymouse 🌹

Oops.

I don’t think they are kneeling during the anthem. I think it’s a pre- (or post) game group prayer.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:46:22am

re: #299 Joe Bacon 🌹

One of these days I’ll find the person who peed in my DNA and get even…

Randomness. I have heard of (non union, of course) painters that would piss in the paint as a way to get even. Apparently, the interior wall painted painted will give off a nice scent of pee pee when the sun hit. And, you can’t make it go away by painting over it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:46:31am

re: #317 Dr. Matt

I don’t think they are kneeling during the anthem. I think it’s a pre- (or post) game group prayer.

I am glad I’m not the only one who saw that. The clue to me was them being lined up in the End Zone.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:46:43am
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freetoken  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:46:46am

re: #317 Dr. Matt

I don’t think they are kneeling during the anthem. I think it’s a pre- (or post) game group prayer.

I wonder if it’s one of those Christian military things. Normally I’d expect that of the AF, not the Army, but indeed the Army may be becoming increasingly corrupt too.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:47:48am

NOw if you do want to point out things though, it is definitely true to point out that Nate Boyer, former Green Beret and NFL player is the one who suggested Kaep kneel. And that Kaep’s teammate Eric Reid is the nephew and son of veterans. Eric even pointed out had his mother not been pregnant with him, she would have been deployed in Desert Storm.

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:48:11am

The religious right has been trying for some time now to turn the military institutions into theocratic agencies.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:48:45am

re: #321 freetoken

I wonder if it’s one of those Christian military things. Normally I’d expect that of the AF, not the Army, but indeed the Army may be becoming increasingly corrupt too.

It’s actually the Navy

This photograph, however, actually shows the Navy Midshipmen kneeling in prayer before a game against the University of Tulsa. It has nothing to do with the “take a knee” protests.
snopes.com

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:49:52am

re: #323 freetoken

The religious right has been trying for some time now to turn the military institutions into theocratic agencies.

Yeah it’s really bad in the AF as you said. The father of one cadet who brought it to attention, I forget the man’s name has gotten a lot of hate from the religious right for pushing back against it.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:50:35am

re: #305 jaunte

It’s a cult.

BTW, I was thrilled to see #BrieflyExplainScientology trending this morning.

Last night’s Aftermath was scathing & horrible.

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Interesting Times  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:52:42am

For any Austin lizards or others close by, this is happening next week:

Facebook Post

For those who don’t/can’t do FB:

Hey Austin! I’m giving a talk on autocracy and how to resist it next week. Given the new recent horrors it will have to be a newly written talk. Please come by. And if you’re in the area but can’t make it, please spread this around to those who may be interested. A significant part of the proceeds from the event are going to Texas charities. Thanks!

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Dr. Matt  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:53:40am

re: #323 freetoken

The religious right has been trying for some time now to turn the military institutions into theocratic agencies.

I served over 27 years ago and the number of evangelical righties was staggering. It was the first time I ever met one. When you tell them you are a Catholic from the North, they get sexually aroused trying to convert you evangelicalism and the confederacy.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:54:47am

re: #328 Dr. Matt

I served over 27 years ago and the number of evangelical righties was staggering. It was the first time I ever met one. When you tell them you are a Catholic from the North, they get sexually aroused trying to convert you evangelicalism and the confederacy.

Jeezus. Makes me wonder how my cousin’s husband felt, he was an atheist in the USMC.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:55:33am

re: #329 HappyWarrior

Jeezus. Makes me wonder how my cousin’s husband felt, he was an atheist in the USMC.

there are no atheists in foxholes, remember?

/

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:55:37am

re: #321 freetoken

I wonder if it’s one of those Christian military things. Normally I’d expect that of the AF, not the Army, but indeed the Army may be becoming increasingly corrupt too.

The Snopes article points out it is the US Navy team, when they recently appeared against Tulsa University.

Tulsa and the US Navy also point out that the teams waited in the locker room during the anthem, which is customary in college football.

That said, the public display of religious piety by the Navy team is inappropriate (and one wonders what would happen to a non-Christian player, or a player that follows the New Testament command to pray in private, not like the hypocrites).

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:56:51am

President Pee Pants gladly displays his order that kills the ACA!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:58:02am

re: #328 Dr. Matt

I served over 27 years ago and the number of evangelical righties was staggering. It was the first time I ever met one. When you tell them you are a Catholic from the North, they get sexually aroused trying to convert you evangelicalism and the confederacy.

Yup, ran into the same thing when I was in the Navy, but if you think being a Catholic sets ‘em off, tell ‘em you’re an atheist.

Holy crap. I had to put up with that until I was high enough ranked that I ran shops, then I could put a stop to proselytising. (My religious views also prevented my advancement beyond E-6, thanks to the Cheifs’ board.)

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:58:16am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:58:33am

re: #330 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

there are no atheists in foxholes, remember?

/

That would actually be an interesting research paper, history of non-Christians in the U.S. military.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 12, 2017 • 10:58:58am

re: #313 Anymouse 🌹

Oops.

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Snopes says untrue.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:00:40am

re: #199 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

We used to use cell phones for that, and before that landlines, back when people talked to each other instead of typing.

I’m a lot smarter with my fingertips than I am with my mouth and lips!

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:00:54am

re: #324 Dr. Matt

So the NFL players just say they’re praying for a peaceful resolution to violent policing.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:01:35am

Well we don’t necessarily know if the prayer is supposed to be Christian or not.The times when I did pray in school during the moment of silence, I never meant it as a Christian prayer. Anyhow, it’s pre or post game. Doesn’t really bother me too much unless they’re hassling the guys who choose not to take part but a consensual team prayer really doesn’t bother me.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:02:07am

re: #338 jaunte

So the NFL players just say they’re praying for a peaceful resolution to violent policing.

They did in Baltimore two weeks ago. The Ravens got booed by their own fans for that.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:02:57am

re: #313 Anymouse 🌹

Oops.

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That shut some people up…

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:04:06am

re: #340 HappyWarrior

I continue to believe the players as a group have more power than the fans (who are addicted to the game) and the owners.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:04:41am

re: #313 Anymouse 🌹

Did Army Football Team Kneel in Protest During National Anthem? - Snopes

A photograph purportedly showing the Army Black Knights team kneeling in protest actually shows the Navy football team kneeling in prayer.

edit: OK, I didn’t see that like a dozen people already addressed this…

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:04:47am

re: #332 Joe Bacon 🌹

President Pee Pants gladly displays his order that kills the ACA!

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He wants to kill the ACA. Keep in mind that this doesn’t effect the Medicaid expansion at all, and that the 80% of marketplace customers who are subsidized will likely prevent a deathspiral. The people it will hurt the most are older, sicker people in rural areas who earn too much to get subsidies, and may find that premiums go too high for them to afford or may not have any options at all. IOW, Trump is screwing his own voters.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:04:55am

re: #303 Joe Bacon 🌹

I had that done back with no copay. Now thanks to the Tangerine Tyrant I may have to do the GoFundMe routine when the bills go back to what they were before the ACA was passed!

Ten years ago soon after my divorce was finalized and I was still working on my master’s thesis I got hit with a hypertensive crisis. It wasn’t just the stress, genetics played a huge role, my Dad had a hypertensive crisis in his mid thirties too. When I finally went in my BP was 220 / 180! I’d previously gotten my insurance through my ex-wife and the only reason I was able to escape insane amounts of debt and a medical bankruptcy was through being so poor that I managed to qualify for Santa Barbara County’s Medically Indigent Adult program.

An angel of a cardiologist thought the hospital was discharging me early and agreed to see me afterwards for $30 per office visit. So on top of the two days in the ICU and third in a monitoring ward, plus the CT, MRI, cardiac & kidney echo & bubble study, he helped me get the County to pay for a MIBG gamma scan just on the off chance I had a pheochromocytoma (I didn’t).

I got better, got a job that offered insurance, then moved to Simi and freelanced and found out I couldn’t get insurance on the private market because of my pre-existing condition. The fact that my BP was now controlled with cheap meds didn’t mean anything. Fortunately the ACA then passed and I was able to get insurance through PCIP and then through the same exchange plans we all have access to.

So yeah, I’m kind of pissed off today.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:05:01am

The biggest lie the religious right tells though is you can’t pray in public school. No, Engel says you can’t force prayer in school which is a good thing. I’m no longer religious but even I know that prayer is meant to be personal between an individual and their deity or deities. I certainly did pray when my Nana died when I was in high school. But I wouldn’t have wanted it forced on my classmates either.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:05:58am

re: #335 HappyWarrior

That would actually be an interesting research paper, history of non-Christians in the U.S. military.

There was the issue of the “Army Fitness Tracker” from 2011 that would assess various things about a soldier, and the software would claim that non-Christians were unfit to serve in the Army.

(I took the fitness tracker when it went on-line and it said the same about me.)

huffingtonpost.com (from 2011)

A cursory search doesn’t seem to indicate such a history has been done, but recent surveys have.

Number of non-Christians in the military may surprise you (Belleville, IL News-Democrat)

Q: When I watched the Democratic National Convention, I was utterly sick at heart when the father of Capt. Humayun Khan, who was killed in Iraq, spoke. With so much talk about how America is a “Christian-only” country, is there any way to find out how many non-Christian men and women serve in our armed forces?

A: This may come as a shock to some, but a Department of Defense survey taken in 2009 found that just over a third of those who agreed to be questioned (more than 6,000) said they either were not Christian or had no religious preference.

Of those, the vast majority chose “none of the above” — about 25 percent. But nearly 4 percent identified with humanism (the belief in critical thinking and evidence over dogma and superstition) while Jews, pagans, Eastern religions and “less common” religions came in at about 1 percent each. Roman Catholics topped the Christian faiths with 20 percent followed by Baptists with nearly 18 percent. Muslims numbered about a half percent.

More at the link

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:06:08am

re: #342 jaunte

I continue to believe the players as a group have more power than the fans (who are addicted to the game) and the owners.

Gotta unite together for sure. I’m honestly proud that we have so many outspoken athletes this generation. Not just stars like Lebron but lesser known guys too.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:06:53am

re: #337 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I’m a lot smarter with my fingertips than I am with my mouth and lips!

I think I am brilliant, in my head. It’s the brain to mouth/fingers interface that is broken.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:07:12am

re: #347 Anymouse 🌹

There was the issue of the “Army Fitness Tracker” from 2011 that would assess various things about a soldier, and the software would claim that non-Christians were unfit to serve in the Army.

(I took the fitness tracker when it went on-line and it said the same about me.)

huffingtonpost.com (from 2011)

A cursory search doesn’t seem to indicate such a history has been done, but recent surveys have.

Number of non-Christians in the military may surprise you (Belleville, IL News-Democrat)

More at the link

it’s such crap to claim that a non-Christian couldn’t serve honorably. It always bothered me that H.W. Bush said that about atheists. You don’t need to believe in God to love your country.

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I cannot.  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:07:21am

re: #342 jaunte

The fans NEED the players to entertain them, the owners NEED the players to get the fans to buy tickets. The players need a job, but they don’t need THAT job.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:08:39am

re: #351 I cannot.

The fans NEED the players to entertain them, the owners NEED the players to get the fans to buy tickets. The players need a job, but they don’t need THAT job.

A lot of idiotic fans think these guys would be burger flippers if not for football. A lot of them have degrees or are close to them. A lot of them are quite intelligent guys too. I’ve read a lot of these guys thoughts on the matter and a lot of them are very well read and understand the historical context of what’s going on.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:10:24am

The word is getting out.

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I cannot.  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:10:58am

re: #352 HappyWarrior

Yeah, a 6’ 4” 240 lb burger flipper with 2% body fat, yeah, let’s go with that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:11:04am

re: #352 HappyWarrior

Football occupies a special place as a repository of all those Great American Virtues of fair play, the striving for excellence and risking permanent, traumatic damage for the chance at making obscene amounts of money from advertising and labeling…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:12:42am

re: #355 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Football occupies a special place as a repository of all those Great American Virtues of fair play, the striving for excellence and risking permanent, traumatic damage for the chance at making obscene amounts of money from advertising and labeling…

I think you’re over complicating the matter. These fans just want to be entertained and they think the players playing the game are expendable for their jollies hence why Trump has mocked player safety efforts and why they see them as dumb jocks.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:14:15am

re: #356 HappyWarrior

I think you’re over complicating the matter. These fans just want to be entertained and they think the players playing the game are expendable for their jollies hence why Trump has mocked player safety efforts and why they see them as dumb jocks.

Sports are seen as a place where American Virtues are to be celebrated, and some people are very picky about how they see those virtues celebrated…political protest is not part of what they find acceptable.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:15:34am

re: #357 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sports are seen as a place where American Virtues are to be celebrated, and some people are very picky about how they see those virtues celebrated…political protest is not part of what they find acceptable.

I think it’s like that with any entertainment though. They want artists to shut up too even though politics is inevitably linked with art. Why should one be shocked or upset if an artist who has recorded music about alienation be shocked if said artist calls out someone like Trump on stage?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:16:23am

re: #346 HappyWarrior

The biggest lie the religious right tells though is you can’t pray in public school. No, Engel says you can’t force prayer in school which is a good thing. I’m no longer religious but even I know that prayer is meant to be personal between an individual and their deity or deities. I certainly did pray when my Nana died when I was in high school. But I wouldn’t have wanted it forced on my classmates either.

I wonder how many Southern Baptists would be on-board if a majority Catholic area forced a daily Angelus or Rosary on them? They’d be clamouring for the Separation of Church and State just as loudly as they are trying to tear it down now.

That separation not only protects the government from pernicious encroachment of religion, it prevents the government from squashing religious freedom of Churches. The best protection for a religion from the depredations of government is that wall of separation.

Baptists forget it was their own who first argued for it, back when the Bill of Rights was being mooted. Baptists were exiled, jailed, and killed for their beliefs in Congregationalist New England.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:16:58am
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:17:59am
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:19:31am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:19:47am

re: #359 Anymouse 🌹

I wonder how many Southern Baptists would be on-board if a majority Catholic area forced a daily Angelus or Rosary on them? They’d be clamouring for the Separation of Church and State just as loudly as they are trying to tear it down now.

That separation not only protects the government from pernicious encroachment of religion, it prevents the government from squashing religious freedom of Churches. The best protection for a religion from the depredations of government is that wall of separation.

Baptists forget it was their own who first argued for it, back when the Bill of Rights was being mooted. Baptists were exiled, jailed, and killed for their beliefs in Congregationalist New England.

We actually saw how they’d feel when large numbers of Catholics first arrived from Ireland and Germany in the 1840’s. And yes Baptists themselves were discriminated against which is why they argued for separation of church and state in the first place.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:20:07am

re: #361 FormerDirtDart

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And a sieg heil to you too, good sir.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:20:43am

re: #361 FormerDirtDart

They really are pulling out all the fascist stops, aren’t they? And they seem to be proud of it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:21:34am

re: #365 Anymouse 🌹

They really are pulling out all the fascist stops, aren’t they? And they seem to be proud of it.

They play well with their target audience and the media are just taking them in stride…

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:23:26am

Jonah almost achieves self-awareness. So close Jonah….so close..

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:24:28am

Why the hell would anyone buy a $46,000 pick-me-up-truck?!

The luxury trend has helped pickups outpace the industry in terms of the prices they command. So far this year, the average vehicle is selling for $34,671, up 38 percent from 2005. The average price of a full-size truck has jumped 54 percent in that same period, to $46,844.

Folks are on crack I tell ya. How much is it worth when you trade it in a year later?

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:24:30am

“… Police pulled Daniels over early Monday morning after receiving a report that he stole a firearm and made a terrorist threat, KCBD reported. It remains unclear who called the police.

When Daniels refused to have his car searched by Lubbock Police, officers sent him on his way, concluding they did not have probable cause to do so, according to KCBD. …”

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:25:05am

re: #366 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They play well with their target audience and the media are just taking them in stride…

In most fascist states (or states like them), it’s usually the free press up against the wall first.

During the Republican Primary season, the publisher of my regional paper sent an E-mail to the readership that has Internet service asking if the newspaper was leaning too liberal in coverage? (Short answer, no. Longer answer, Bwahahahahah!)

I wrote a long thoughtful E-mail back noting Trump’s fascist rhetoric then, and also noted in fascist societies it’s usually newspaper publishers and journalists put up against a wall first.

He did not acknowledge my E-mail, but printed several short letters on the op-ed page claiming “yeah, the paper leans too liberal.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:25:09am

re: #367 Ace-o-aces

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Jonah almost achieves self-awareness. So close Jonah….so close..

Jonah needs to try some of that personal responsibility I’ve heard so much about. Dude your magazine literally advised this guy on the judiciary knowing what a brat he was. Own it. You and NRO own Trump and what your ideology has become. And by hte way, your founder was a Jim Crow supporting, Apartheid apologizing, faux intellectual racist asshole.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:26:41am

re: #369 FormerDirtDart

He has Shkreli face.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:27:19am

re: #367 Ace-o-aces

Network news has become so partisan, distorted and fake that licenses must be challenged and, if appropriate, revoked. Not fair to public!

— Donald J. Trump

Says who?

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calochortus  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:27:35am

re: #372 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

He has Shkreli face.

My first thought too.

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calochortus  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:28:12am

re: #370 Anymouse 🌹

Have you checked to see if they had applied for their license to print news yet?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:28:40am

re: #374 calochortus

My first thought too.

Resting Shkreli face.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:32:19am

re: #371 HappyWarrior

Reminding people of what a vile racist Buckley was.

“Why the South Must Prevail”…

xoxohth.com

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:33:14am

re: #375 calochortus

Using the public airwaves is a privilege.

It doesn’t have to be this way. America lets radio and TV broadcasters use public airwaves worth more than half a trillion dollars for free. In return, we require that broadcasters serve the public interest: devoting at least some airtime for worthy programs that inform voters, support local arts and culture and educate our children — in other words, that aspire to something beyond just minimizing costs and maximizing revenue.

Using the public airwaves is a privilege — a lucrative one — not a right, and I fear the F.C.C. has not done enough to stand up for the public interest. Our policies should reward broadcasters that honor their pledge to serve that interest and penalize those that don’t.

The F.C.C. already has powerful leverage to hold broadcasters to their end of the bargain. Every eight years, broadcasters must prove that they have served the public interest in order to get license renewal. If they can’t, the license goes to someone else who will. It’s a tough but fair system — if the commission does its job.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:33:21am

re: #375 calochortus

Have you checked to see if they had applied for their license to print news yet?

Perfect Freedom is symbolized by government control of the press.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:34:40am

For those Republicans who ascribe to Grover Norquist’s idea that the government should be made so small it can be drowned in a bathtub, they’re getting their wish right now.

For the Dominonists waiting for a theocracy, should Trump exit the stage their man is ready to take over (along with a whole bunch of supporters in Congress).

Pence really needs to go the way of Agnew.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:35:06am

re: #369 FormerDirtDart

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Too light skinned to establish probable cause./

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:36:28am

re: #377 Joe Bacon 🌹

Reminding people of what a vile racist Buckley was.

“Why the South Must Prevail”…

xoxohth.com

He was a bigoted asshole who hid behind phony intellectual superiority. I love that James Baldwin schooled him at Oxford. How humiliating for a homophobic racist piece of shit like that to get schooled by a gay black dude at Oxford no less.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:36:39am

VELAZQUEZ: I’m the only member who is a Puerto Rican-American citizen who sits in this committee, so since I don’t have President Trump in front of me, I just would like for you to let him know how shameful all the tweets that he put out this morning, how offended and insulted I am as an American citizen. And I would like to suggest that the president get some history lessons regarding the Puerto Ricans relationship with the United States. […]

Those tweets are unpresidential. The most basic, fundamental responsibility of the president of the United States — the president of the most powerful country in the world — is to show up, and to provide the assistance and the relief that American citizens need. They don’t need this type of insult.

By the way, why is it he doesn’t put the same tweets when it comes to Texas or Florida?

You invaded Puerto Rico. The United States of America invaded Puerto Rico. My uncle participated in the Korean War. We shed blood to defend the freedoms that every American in this country enjoys. So to kick fellow citizens when they are down is shameful.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:38:24am

The Trumpian withdrawal from the world continues.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:39:34am

earthquake.usgs.gov

North Korea

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:39:36am

re: #383 jaunte

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Powerful.

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:40:45am

re: #383 jaunte

“You invaded Puerto Rico. The United States of America invaded Puerto Rico. My uncle participated in the Korean War. We shed blood to defend the freedoms that every American in this country enjoys. So to kick fellow citizens when they are down is shameful.

Trump cannot be shamed. He is shameless.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:42:58am

re: #382 HappyWarrior

He was a bigoted asshole who hid behind phony intellectual superiority. I love that James Baldwin schooled him at Oxford. How humiliating for a homophobic racist piece of shit like that to get schooled by a gay black dude at Oxford no less.

Happy I remember when Baldwin came to Pitt. The Young Americans for FreeDUMB were protesting him. He opened fire on those assholes with both barrels totally humiliating them. It was such a delightful treat to witness him say “I will not be silenced into submission by apologists who enslaved my ancestors!”

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:43:14am

re: #385 Shropshire Slasher

earthquake.usgs.gov

North Korea

There was some conjecture that NK would do it this week in conjunction with anniversary of founding (or the party?).

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:45:45am

re: #384 jaunte

The Trumpian withdrawal from the world continues.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:46:34am

Puerto Rican old people now at the top of the GOP kill list.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:47:24am

re: #391 jaunte

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Puerto Rican old people now at the top of the GOP kill list.

WTF.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:47:49am

re: #384 jaunte

The Trumpian withdrawal from the world continues.

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The Birchers always has their “Get US Out Of the United Nations” bumperstickers, signs and billboards on the highways.

I would not be surprised to see Trump completely pull out of the UN.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:47:54am

re: #388 Joe Bacon 🌹

Happy I remember when Baldwin came to Pitt. The Young Americans for FreeDUMB were protesting him. He opened fire on those assholes with both barrels totally humiliating them. It was such a delightful treat to witness him say “I will not be silenced into submission by apologists who enslaved my ancestors!”

Baldwin was awesome. We could use him nowadays.

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calochortus  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:47:58am

re: #391 jaunte

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Puerto Rican old people now at the top of the GOP kill list.

Of course those fetuses they’re so hot to protect will, if born, die eventually as well.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:48:41am

re: #384 jaunte

That goes back to the W era law that requires the USA to withdraw support from any UN agency that recognises Palestine.

Like it or not, the bigot brigade passed that law during W’s administration to support apartheid, and that is the law now. Withdrawing from UNESCO is exactly what the law requires, as UNESCO gave membership to Palestine.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:49:54am

re: #384 jaunte

The Trumpian withdrawal from the world continues.

The US has quit UNESCO, the UN agency that protects world heritage sites and teaches poor children to read

I heard on radio today that we had stopped funding UNESCO back in 2011

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:50:13am
“…The White House also released a statement from press secretary Sarah Sanders on Thursday afternoon.

“Our job in any disaster affected location is to help the community respond and recover from that disaster. We continue to do so with the full force of the US government and its resources in Texas, Florida, Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands and other affected areas,” Sanders said. “Successful recoveries do not last forever; they should be as swift as possible to help people resume their normal lives. We are committed to helping Puerto Rico. Our Administration is working with Governor Rossello and Congress to identify the best fiscally responsible path forward.”

politico.com

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:50:53am

If you never saw the Baldwin Vs. Buckley debate here’s a link:

James Baldwin Debates William F. Buckley (1965)

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:51:57am

re: #397 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I heard on radio today that we had stopped funding UNESCO back in 2011

Yup. That was when UNESCO recognised Palestine.

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹

I wrote about it up the thread and linked to an article at The Guardian which talks about the law and the situation.

Did I mention conservatism in the USA has always been a bigot brigade my whole life?

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:52:35am

re: #369 FormerDirtDart

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No probable cause because he was white no doubt.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:53:16am

re: #400 Anymouse 🌹

Did I mention conservatism in the USA has always been a bigot brigade my whole life?

And magical thinkers. Getting out of UNESCO won’t make Palestine disappear.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:54:14am

“Fake Paper Towels”

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:55:23am

re: #402 jaunte

And magical thinkers. Getting out of UNESCO won’t make Palestine disappear.

The idea is to force the UN to withdraw recognition of Palestine if they want money from us.

This sort of behaviour has been going on a long time, every time conservatives gain power in the government (which is why we’re behind on UN dues).

It was also conservatives here that eventually killed the League of Nations.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:56:03am

re: #384 jaunte

The Trumpian withdrawal from the world continues.

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They did it “for the children, think of the children”

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lawhawk  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:56:17am

re: #385 Shropshire Slasher

earthquake.usgs.gov

North Korea

That’s in vicinity of the North Korean testing region.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:56:51am

re: #369 FormerDirtDart

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Did he make bail yet?

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:57:44am

re: #391 jaunte

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Puerto Rican old people now at the top of the GOP kill list.

Ahhh, finally the death panels we have been waiting for.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:58:04am
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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 11:58:43am

re: #398 jaunte

Sadly, I’m hoping some red state discovers the actual costs of capitalism soon.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:00:50pm

re: #410 Belafon

“We’d love it if you had clean water to drink, but the cabinet secretaries need vacations, too.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:00:50pm

re: #408 Eventual Carrion

Ahhh, finally the death panels we have been waiting for.

Turns out that was projection as well.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:02:19pm

re: #368 Shropshire Slasher

Why the hell would anyone buy a $46,000 pick-me-up-truck?!

I think this is due to people who can largely write the truck off as a business expense, and without that ability could not afford it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:03:11pm

re: #410 Belafon

Sadly, I’m hoping some red state discovers the actual costs of capitalism soon.

Oh they will have no problem since those deluded fools still believe they have Jay-Zuss!

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scottslemmons  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:04:11pm

I’m actually enjoying the dragging Twitter’s getting over banning Rose McGowan. I don’t think it’ll make them behave, but it’s good to see them getting the black eyes they deserve.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:04:49pm

re: #413 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I think this is due to people who can largely write the truck off as a business expense, and without that ability could not afford it.

Most of the HUMVs sold were used as business write-offs.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:08:51pm

Now taking bets on when he gets fired:

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calochortus  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:10:02pm

re: #413 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I think this is due to people who can largely write the truck off as a business expense, and without that ability could not afford it.

Or people who have the money and are desperate for everyone else to know they can afford something expensive.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:10:14pm

re: #368 Shropshire Slasher

Why the hell would anyone buy a $46,000 pick-me-up-truck?!

Folks are on crack I tell ya. How much is it worth when you trade it in a year later?

A fair number of ranchers and farmers own such vehicles because they spend a lot of time in them. That also explains tractors that cost $100k.

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MsJ  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:11:35pm

re: #49 teleskiguy

Seriously, tweeting Lizards. If you have an idea for a tweet storm, tap that big blue ‘Tweet’ button on the upper right side at the top. Type it all in! LGF will break it down into a tweet storm, with numbers and appropriate line breaks, automatically! It’s kind of cool.

Where…on Twitter itself? I am capped at 140 characters and it doesn’t do that for me.

If I click the bird icon here, same thing…140 characters.

Where are you referring to?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:11:53pm

re: #417 Anymouse 🌹

Now taking bets on when he gets fired:

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He’s been saying some really childish things on Twitter, so seems to be trying to ingratiate himself with Trump.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:12:03pm

re: #368 Shropshire Slasher

Why the hell would anyone buy a $46,000 pick-me-up-truck?!

Folks are on crack I tell ya. How much is it worth when you trade it in a year later?

I don’t think a lot of truck owners trade theirs in very often. The guy across the street has a 2001 F150. He keeps it immaculate.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:12:18pm

re: #415 scottslemmons

I’m actually enjoying the dragging Twitter’s getting over banning Rose McGowan. I don’t think it’ll make them behave, but it’s good to see them getting the black eyes they deserve.

Won’t matter until there’s an exodus from Twitter. If folks continue to stay, it’s no skin off Twitter’s teeth.

A mass of people leaving Twitter because they are becoming a Russian propaganda outlet and swill of fascism is the only thing that will get their attention.

They are libertarians: they have no loyalty to anything but money.

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MsJ  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:12:27pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

Soon to be the no longer FCC commissioner.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:13:23pm

re: #420 MsJ

It’s the one under “RSS Feed” above the “Help support Little Green Footballs.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:15:30pm

LOLWUT?

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MsJ  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:15:41pm

re: #57 I cannot.

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This is bad in so many ways…apparently Weird Mike thinks that Midol and buzzsaw rhyme…what the?

I think he’s trying to do Eminem’s trademark assonance. I haven’t heard anyone do assonance like Eminem.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:17:59pm

re: #422 Belafon

I have a love/hate relationship with vehicles. I live in upstate NY and I am lucky to get ten years out of a vehicle. The salt rots them out, makes them next to impossible to work on.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:18:31pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:18:36pm

re: #368 Shropshire Slasher

Why the hell would anyone buy a $46,000 pick-me-up-truck?!

Status signaling. Having a pickup truck is almost de rigueur among the denizens of the hinterlands and gas is historically inexpensive. The fact that the only thing most of them will ever haul is their own ass is irrelevant to the decision making paradigm.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:18:54pm

re: #426 Anymouse 🌹

Is he wagging his finger at me or his flesh colored suction cup ended dildo?
I wonder if he named his dildo?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:19:37pm

re: #426 Anymouse 🌹

LOLWUT?

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Alright, I’m going to have to go to church to see this. Before I rejected religion, the most interesting thing at church was guitar-mass.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:20:38pm

re: #431 Shropshire Slasher

Is he wagging his finger at me or his flesh colored dildo?
I wonder if he named his dildo?

Fingers don’t have heads, so…

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:20:41pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:21:35pm

re: #431 Shropshire Slasher

Is he wagging his finger at me or his flesh colored dildo?
I wonder if he named his dildo?

Ewww. There are things that are even too far for erotic Romance editors to contemplate.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:22:18pm

re: #426 Anymouse 🌹

LOLWUT?

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I sure am glad Asshole Alex wiped the booger off of his finger before he pointed it!

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:22:43pm

This climate-change denying old crank may soon be Trump’s new national science adviser.

He currently serves as vice president of the Doctors for Disaster Preparedness — an outré association of science-minded nonconformists, conspiracy theorists and dissenters (also funded by Robert Mercer). “Art is revered by those people,” says Bast, who has attended several of DDP’s annual meetings. At this year’s event, which took place in August on the theme of “Restoring Greatness in American Science and Health,” presenters spoke about the bullying of climate skeptics, the widespread use of phony global-warming models, scientific misconduct at the Environmental Protection Agency and the story of Chernobyl and other “radioactive fairytales.” Robinson himself gave a talk on the “vaccine controversy” — he believes they’re given too early in a child’s life, as a rule — and there was a banquet reception for the infamous anti-vaxxer Andrew Wakefield. Earlier meetings have attacked the science linking HIV and AIDS and questioned claims that we’re in the middle of a mass extinction.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:24:26pm

re: #428 Shropshire Slasher

I have a love/hate relationship with vehicles. I live in upstate NY and I am lucky to get ten years out of a vehicle. The salt rots them out, makes them next to impossible to work on.

Nebraska doesn’t use much salt. The state mostly uses sand (when they bother to do anything). Salt damages fields next to roads.

In winter, US-26 here is a very dangerous road to travel on and we don’t travel much out of town unless we have to.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:25:19pm

re: #437 Big Beautiful Door

If a plutocrat like Robert Mercer is really going to devote his entire fortune to fucking things up for everyone else, the fortune should just be confiscated.

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:25:28pm

re: #417 Anymouse 🌹

“Unless things change” - since the universe is always changing, this phrase by Kelly is pretty much meaningless.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:29:37pm

re: #82 JordanRules

Where was he radicalized?

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I’m almost for Part 2. Representing Fentanyl as heroin, and killing junkies, should bring a murder charge. Selling it while being clear that it’s Fentanyl should just bring the usual drug charges.

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cat-tikvah  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:29:43pm

re: #342 jaunte
Especially if most of the players are united…

“Oh yeah? Who you gonna get?”

The Right Stuff - Blu-ray Clip

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:30:26pm

re: #439 EPR-radar

If a plutocrat like Robert Mercer is really going to devote his entire fortune to fucking things up for everyone else, the fortune should just be confiscated.

A wealthy monster can do too much harm in our society. Money buys influence, and undermines our democracy.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:32:13pm

re: #439 EPR-radar

If a plutocrat like Robert Mercer is really going to devote his entire fortune to fucking things up for everyone else, the fortune should just be confiscated.

This is why we need to raise the inheritance tax rate on billionaires to 95%. And when the asshole RepubliKKKlans BS about a “death tax” it’s time to turn on them and tell those assholes to STFU!

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:33:47pm

re: #443 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

A wealthy monster can do too much harm in our society. Money buys influence, and undermines our democracy.

Yes. Reforming the system so that billionaires can’t occur is a much better approach than confiscating every penny that Robert Mercer has, no matter how satisfying it is to think about that impossible dream.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:34:39pm

re: #444 Joe Bacon 🌹

This is why we need to raise the inheritance tax rate on billionaires to 95%. And when the asshole RepubliKKKlans BS about a “death tax” it’s time to turn on them and tell those assholes to STFU!

We also need to find a way to actually collect it, or the rates won’t mean a thing. I’m sure the Walton fortune was never properly taxed.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:35:37pm

re: #445 EPR-radar

Yes. Reforming the system so that billionaires can’t occur is a much better approach than confiscating every penny that Robert Mercer has, no matter how satisfying it is to think about that impossible dream.

I don’t think we can do that. The wealthy would never tolerate a tax-rate that stopped people from accruing billions and acting like royalty. We can’t even stop hereditary wealth from creating spoiled pseudo-royalty.

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:38:11pm

re: #399 Joe Bacon 🌹

If you never saw the Baldwin Vs. Buckley debate here’s a link:

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Thanks for posting this video of the Baldwin and Buckley debate. I am listening to it in the background as I work.

Funny too one of the very first things he talks about is the 5,6,7 year old Black child discovering the flag to which you pledge your allegiance does not pledge allegiance to you.

And this debate was in 1965.

52 damn years…and it is all the same. Pledge allegiance to the flag. Stand for the National Anthem. All the same.

Blacks…you must stand in line the way we want you too.

All the damn…same.

52 years and Jerry Jones, Roger Goodell…Donald Fucking Trump…still the white masters.

All the damn…same.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:46:24pm

re: #448 ObserverArt

plus you add into the mix that the flag and anthem seem somehow correlated with “police” and “first responders”, etc, so the whole thing seems like demanding that the players worship a group that doesn’t respect them.

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:48:03pm

Past few days have seen a stream of gun-fetish cultist posts on my Facebook, with the usual absurd arguments.

And they think they are being clever.

But the logical fallacies are many.

Yet they refuse to see it.

Cultists, they are.

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MsJ  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:48:07pm

re: #425 Belafon

It’s the one under “RSS Feed” above the “Help support Little Green Footballs.”

OOOHHH! I did not know that existed. THANK YOU (and Teleskiguy!)

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:49:09pm

The UNESCO thing really isn’t surprising. Wingnuts have been going on about this for some time. And given what we know about Trump and Tillerson, this kind of move is just more of what to expect.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:50:06pm

re: #447 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I don’t think we can do that. The wealthy would never tolerate a tax-rate that stopped people from accruing billions and acting like royalty. We can’t even stop hereditary wealth from creating spoiled pseudo-royalty.

It’s not easy, and may end up being impossible. It’s also absolutely necessary to deal with this aristocracy of wealth that has formed in the US.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:52:40pm

re: #449 Sir John Barron

plus you add into the mix that the flag and anthem seem somehow correlated with “police” and “first responders”, etc, so the whole thing seems like demanding that the players worship a group that doesn’t respect them.

And that’s the thing about respect: It is earned, not demanded.

You might make someone go through a ritual of respect, but that ritual will quickly turn to contempt.

Someone posted a political cartoon here of the history of whites demanding blacks “get up,” from slave masters to lunch counters to buses to football fields.

A nation treating all with respect and dignity would engender respect in turn that was actually meaningful, not a religious ritual demanded from the flock.

And the whole protest is not about respect for the flag, “the troops,” or any of that. It is a protest demanding to be treated fairly.

Conservatives will never be satisfied, because conservatism is about power, not equality. For four hundred years conservatives have consistently opposed equality for minorities in this land, there is no reason to think they’ll change now.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:53:01pm

re: #453 EPR-radar

It’s not easy, and may end up being impossible. It’s also absolutely necessary to deal with this aristocracy of wealth that has formed in the US.

I agree it’s necessary if we want a good future, but I don’t see it happening as long as the masses are easily manipulated by the wealthy. It would take mass-starvation to turn the rubes against their masters, and they might just blame liberals until they die.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:57:36pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:59:20pm

re: #456 goddamnedfrank

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He flat out doesn’t care what happens to the people of PR. Fucking monster.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:59:25pm

re: #452 freetoken

The UNESCO thing really isn’t surprising. Wingnuts have been going on about this for some time. And given what we know about Trump and Tillerson, this kind of move is just more of what to expect.

That goes back to my note above: re: #98 Anymouse 🌹

A law was passed under the apartheid-supporting W administration requiring withholding of funds or withdrawing from any UN organisation that recognised Palestine. We have been withholding funds from UNESCO ever since they seated Palestine and recognised them.

Withdrawal from UNESCO may be repugnant, but that is the law bigoted conservatives passed back then. Elections have always had consequences, which is why I have never knowingly voted for a conservative.

They were bigots when I was born, they are bigots now, they will be bigots long after I die.

But withdrawing from UNESCO is required by law. The alternative would be to get the GOP congress to repeal the law they passed.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 12:59:42pm

This is far worse than Katrina.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:02:11pm

re: #456 goddamnedfrank

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Not that we believe them entirely.

Amazing when agencies have to rebuke the idiot.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:03:53pm

re: #455 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I agree it’s necessary if we want a good future, but I don’t see it happening as long as the masses are easily manipulated by the wealthy. It would take mass-starvation to turn the rubes against their masters, and they might just blame liberals until they die.

If current trends in automation and globalization continue, we’re looking at half or more of the US being unemployable in a few decades as being surplus labor. That’s going to require fundamental changes to society, because the Republican solution of all wealth to the already rich and mass graves for “useless eaters” is completely unacceptable.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:05:24pm

Comically sad

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:07:12pm

A lot of women are rightfully pissed off that Sanders who famously derided PP as “establishment” and claimed his woman Democratic candidate for governor of Vermont was “playing the gender card” has been invited to be the keynote of a woman’s event. I don’t blame women for being pissed off by this choice. He’s an awful choice for this.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:07:42pm

re: #462 Stanley Sea

Comically sad

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Then he shouldn’t have any qualms over legalized abortion then by that standard or any law against homicide.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:11:46pm

re: #456 goddamnedfrank

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:12:42pm

re: #465 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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I’m old enough to remember being told that we shouldn’t take in refugees because we should take care of our own people.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:13:53pm

re: #461 EPR-radar

If current trends in automation and globalization continue, we’re looking at half or more of the US being unemployable in a few decades as being surplus labor. That’s going to require fundamental changes to society, because the Republican solution of all wealth to the already rich and mass graves for “useless eaters” is completely unacceptable.

I expect we’ll become more and more socialist as automation replaces labor, and eventually even a lot of decision-making, but the “useless eaters” will have to first realize that right-wing policies will put them in mass graves.

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Sea Mexican!  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:14:42pm

re: #76 Dave In Austin

Cheesus…… Sea Mexicans

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For once, I don’t feel insulted by being compared to Mexicans.

And I don’t believe this is a slur in used. It’s an apt description at how many Americans see us (a good friend of mine once asked me why I wasn’t Mexican, because everything to the south of the US is Mexico).

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:16:53pm

re: #464 HappyWarrior

Then he shouldn’t have any qualms over legalized abortion then by that standard or any law against homicide.

But “babeeeez!”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:18:01pm

re: #468 Le Coquí Résistance

For once, I don’t feel insulted by being compared to Mexicans.

And I don’t believe this is a slur in used. It’s an apt description at how many Americans see us (a good friend of mine once asked me why I wasn’t Mexican, because everything to the south of the US is Mexico).

Yeah, I don’t think Wilson intended it that way. I still remember a brother of a neighborhood friend who called every Hispanic, “Mexican.” It was amusing to me and my brother because well Northern Virginia doesn’t have a ton of Mexican-Americans and Mexican immigrants. It was pretty neat recently though. I attended a baseball game with my SiL’s sister and her husband. They’re both native Spanish speakers and we were sitting near some other Spanish speakers so my Dad who does speak Spanish as well but not enough to tell you where someone’s from asked my SiL’s sister’s husband “Can you tell us where they’re from?” Turned out they were Dominicans and we had a fun time watching the game with them.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:18:09pm

re: #466 HappyWarrior

I’m old enough to remember being told that we shouldn’t take in refugees because we should take care of our own people.

I wasn’t here before the site changed its focus, but I’ll bet you could have found that sort of comment right here then.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:18:29pm

re: #469 Anymouse 🌹

But “babeeeez!”

You have no idea how much it pisses me off seeing the same people who bitch about people on welfare feign concern for babies.

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wrenchwench  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:18:52pm

re: #462 Stanley Sea

Comically sad

[a funeral director by profession]

Conflict of interest for a politician who is charged with benefiting his constituents; professionally he would benefit from their earlier demise.

re: #464 HappyWarrior

Then he shouldn’t have any qualms over legalized abortion then by that standard or any law against homicide.

His interest there would be to force women to have a funeral after every period.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:19:12pm

re: #471 Anymouse 🌹

I wasn’t here before the site changed its focus, but I’ll bet you could have found that sort of comment right here then.

I wasn’t either. It was more a joke about how we only heard this kind of rhetoric not even a year ago during the Syrian refugee crisis

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:19:59pm

re: #456 goddamnedfrank

…We cannot keep FEMA, the Military & the First Responders, who have been amazing (under the most difficult circumstances) in P.R. forever!

— Donald J. Trump

You’re kidding me, right? Not from a parody account?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:20:07pm

re: #463 HappyWarrior

A lot of women are rightfully pissed off that Sanders who famously derided PP as “establishment” and claimed his woman Democratic candidate for governor of Vermont was “playing the gender card” has been invited to be the keynote of a woman’s event. I don’t blame women for being pissed off by this choice. He’s an awful choice for this.

What women’s event was he invited to speak at?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:20:08pm

Wow Trump seems to lost Limbaugh even on the forced kneeling. Limbaugh’s still a fucking prick but wow.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:20:28pm

re: #472 HappyWarrior

You have no idea how much it pisses me off seeing the same people who bitch about people on welfare feign concern for babies.

It’s because conflating abortion and grinding up babies is the only way they can feel morally superior to decent people.

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lawhawk  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:20:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:21:31pm

re: #476 Anymouse 🌹

What women’s event was he invited to speak at?

thehill.com

The Women’s Convention set up by the organizers of this past winter’s march in Detroit. Sanders does have a pro choice record but they A) should have invited a woman especially a young one and B) He is patronizing on this issue.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:23:26pm

re: #479 lawhawk

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If this was a lily white state that went for Trump overwhelmingly, we’d be helping it out now but nope.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:24:49pm

And to clarify though I don’t think I need to, if this was a red state overwhelmingly white, I’d want to help it too. We should be helping out people in their time of need.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:29:22pm

re: #482 HappyWarrior

And to clarify though I don’t think I need to, if this was a red state overwhelmingly white, I’d want to help it too. We should be helping out people in their time of need.

Yup, shouldn’t matter if it’s Texas, California, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, or any other American land.

We’re Americans, we shouldn’t be trading aid on who voted for whom or what area of the nation the place is in.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:31:18pm

re: #479 lawhawk

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:32:28pm

re: #483 Anymouse 🌹

Yup, shouldn’t matter if it’s Texas, California, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, or any other American land.

We’re Americans, we shouldn’t be trading aid on who voted for whom or what area of the nation the place is in.

And that really is one of the biggest differences between the two parties.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:35:00pm

re: #485 HappyWarrior

And that really is one of the biggest differences between the two parties.

I remember when Republicans still acted like Americans, and cared about all Americans, but that was before their “culture war”. This cold-war is heating up.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:35:57pm

re: #486 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I remember when Republicans still acted like Americans, and cared about all Americans, but that was before their “culture war”. This cold-war is heating up.

Reagan deserves a good brunt of the blame there. The whole demonizing people on welfare was shitty.

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:36:55pm

Damn…CL’d. Moving comment to new thread

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:37:58pm

re: #488 ObserverArt

So, I finished with the Baldwin and Buckley debate.

Buckley really is a great study in character speech mannerisms and body movements if you ever need to act like a pompous ass. I am now thinking many actors that have had such a role watched this debate.

And to sum up Buckley’s argument: Blacks are their own worst enemy.

And this debate was in 1965.

52 damn years…and it is all the same. Pledge allegiance to the flag. Stand for the National Anthem. All the same.

Blacks…you must stand in line the way we want you too.

And if you don’t and have to pay a price, you have done it to yourselves. Why? You did not follow the fashion and dictates of not White Supremacy, but of the majority. See how simple it all is?

All the damn…same.

And fuck William Buckley and the National Review.

52 damn years later and they are still the same. Protective of their power and capable of verbiage that is nothing but an eloquent excuse for being assholes to other humans.

And then their is something like Puerto Rico. I think Trump said they have in a way not been able to fend for themselves, they haven’t made their island what it could be if they just had drive. And they don’t have the money they owe…must be because they are lazy.

William Buckley would be so proud.

He was such an asshole. I hate the revising of him into being a noble conservative intellectual.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:40:22pm

re: #473 wrenchwench

Hey,

thinking of you this am. All it took was for me to read the word Despacito (Luis Fonsi is helping PR)

and I’ve been singing it all day.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:04:54pm

re: #345 goddamnedfrank

My son was diagnosed with PDD-NOS when he was 4 and later Asperger Syndrome. He’s 23 now.

Through the years we’ve had all kinds of health insurance plans via The Husband’s employers. But the last few years, the cost of adding the kid to our insurance made it stupid expensive. So we went on the exchanges, found a plan he could afford (he’s been working since HS graduation, either in training programs and now is working independent of any agency help. He works at same company as The Husband just a different location), and that’s what we used until his latest job which offers pretty decent insurance.

If these soulless, evil, sociopathic freaks have their way my son would never be insurable again. Unless he paid more than he makes for insurance. Autism would be all the reason the insurance companies would need to deny coverage. Never mind the kid is healthy, rarely gets sick, doesn’t smoke, drinks very rarely or even really engages in some of the risky behavior many of his peers do.

These assholes really get off on death and suffering. I wish Karma worked faster.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:11:47pm

re: #63 Decatur Deb

Trump intends to let 3 million Americans fall into permanent 3rd-world misery. At least he might let the Corps of Engineers open some mass graves before they leave.

Trump doesn’t think they’re Americans. He doesn’t care about them, obviously.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:15:08pm

re: #378 Shropshire Slasher

Using the public airwaves is a privilege.

what does that have to do with newspapers (which was the point of her comment)?


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