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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:19:35pm
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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:23:05pm

re: #1 Dave In Austin

Glad Twitter Safety is on the case.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:24:08pm

re: #1 Dave In Austin

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Awesome. Give em hell Rose.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:26:59pm
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lawhawk  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:27:38pm

All the men on Bee’s staff have a strict code of conduct… heh

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:29:43pm

re: #480 HappyWarrior

thehill.com

The Women’s Convention set up by the organizers of this past winter’s march in Detroit. Sanders does have a pro choice record but they A) should have invited a woman especially a young one and B) He is patronizing on this issue.

From the previous thread.

Thanks for the info.

It’s not my place to judge why the women who organised the Women’s March on Washington extended that invitation and honour to Senator Sanders. Perhaps they thought they could engage him on the issue of Planned Parenthood or women’s reproductive rights in general.

Perhaps they think that women can’t afford to abandon potential allies.

The Hill article cites them as saying he is a powerful ally in the Senate.

I do know about his “establishment” statement over Planned Parenthood, which I thought was at best ill-informed of the senator. An apology, or a statement he’s learned more about the organisation and knows better now, would be nice.

As far as I can tell, Planned Parenthood has never been an “establishment” organisation, unless that means they are generally supported by the Democratic Party.

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Kragar  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:29:44pm
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:31:16pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

There are a lot of really ugly chickens coming home to roost for these big social media platforms.

A lot of smart academics and journalists have been systematically digging into the real-world effects of their laissez-faire policies & procedures, and the studies that are going to surface in the next year or so are going to rock their worlds.

Of course, I thought that was going to be the case when “OutFoxed” came out back in the ’00s, and that turned out to be a big nothingburger, because nobody could be arsed to try to regulate what was clearly, by that point, nothing more than a toxic propaganda outfit.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:31:56pm

re: #7 Kragar

Nobody having any intelligence at all was ever fooled by t****’s pretense of being LGBT-friendly. Republicans are categorically enemies of all non-straight people.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:31:58pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:32:00pm

re: #6 Anymouse 🌹

From the previous thread.

Thanks for the info.

It’s not my place to judge why the women who organised the Women’s March on Washington extended that invitation and honour to Senator Sanders. Perhaps they thought they could engage him on the issue of Planned Parenthood or women’s reproductive rights in general.

Perhaps they think that women can’t afford to abandon potential allies.

The Hill article cites them as saying he is a powerful ally in the Senate.

I do know about his “establishment” statement over Planned Parenthood, which I thought was at best ill-informed of the senator. An apology, or a statement he’s learned more about the organisation and knows better now, would be nice.

As far as I can tell, Planned Parenthood has never been an “establishment” organisation, unless that means they are generally supported by the Democratic Party.

I guess what rubs a lot of people the wrong way is they made him the keynote speaker not just any speaker. And by establishment, he meant within the Democratic Party. May well be true but it was still a very tone deaf thing to say especially given that they had threats to their funding from every last Republican candidate. I don’t have a problem with Sanders being invited. I can see why women would have a problem with him being keynote though when he’s shown a lot of insensitivity to issues women deem important.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:32:04pm

re: #7 Kragar

Tony Perkins, the president of Family Research Council, heaped praise on President Trump for his appearance the conference.

“Values voters have waited eight years for a leader who puts America’s mission first and respects the values that made America into a great nation,” he said in a statement.

You really can’t make this stuff up.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:34:17pm

re: #8 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

There are a lot of really ugly chickens coming home to roost for these big social media platforms.

A lot of smart academics and journalists have been systematically digging into the real-world effects of their laissez-faire policies & procedures, and the studies that are going to surface in the next year or so are going to rock their worlds.

Of course, I thought that was going to be the case when “OutFoxed” came out back in the ’00s, and that turned out to be a big nothingburger, because nobody could be arsed to try to regulate what was clearly, by that point, nothing more than a toxic propaganda outfit.

The first gilded age was undone by demands for reform sparked by muckraking journalists. I fear that the second gilded age has learned from history and has ensured the neutering of journalism prior to bringing back all the abuses of the past.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:34:22pm

re: #12 Sir John Barron

You really can’t make this stuff up.

“Values voters are coming to our nation’s capital thankful to hear from a president who is fulfilling the promises that he campaigned on. Since the early days of the campaign, President Trump allied himself with values voters, promising to put an end to the eight years of relentless assault on the First Amendment.”

You really, really can’t make this stuff up.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:34:31pm

re: #12 Sir John Barron

You really can’t make this stuff up.

And yet Dim Jim and Milo still think Trump cares about gay rights. Suckers. Perkins is a bigoted piece of shit who used Duke’s mailing list for support but yeah the KKK are libs, Douche D’Sousa.

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bratwurst  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:34:38pm

Yet we will STILL hear the narrative that “liberal late night comedians” refuse to touch this story.

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BeachDem  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:34:56pm

Welp. On my way north for a 12 day project that I didn’t want to do in the first place. The good news-good money, nice client. The bad news-long days, short nights and did I mention I didn’t want to do it? Then home for 3 days and off for another job I didn’t want to do. Sigh. It’s hard being indispensable.

Will check in to maintain sanity.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:37:09pm

re: #16 bratwurst

Yet we will STILL hear the narrative that “liberal late night comedians” refuse to touch this story.

Of course.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:38:31pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

And yet Dim Jim and Milo still think Trump cares about gay rights. Suckers. Perkins is a bigoted piece of shit who used Duke’s mailing list for support but yeah the KKK are libs, Douche D’Sousa.

Hoft and Milo think they are safe from a RWNJ auto-da-fe because they are loyal supporters of the movement. It’s a real shame they can’t be proven wrong without a lot of innocent people also being involved.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:39:06pm

re: #19 EPR-radar

Hoft and Milo think they are safe from a RWNJ auto-da-fe because they are loyal supporters of the movement. It’s a real shame they can’t be proven wrong without a lot of innocent people also being involved.

Yep.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:39:52pm

re: #18 HappyWarrior

Of course.

Also, too, why won’t Hillary say something about Weinstein?

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nines09  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:40:05pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:40:37pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:40:48pm

Comment comes from a continuation of the previous thread.

I finished with the Baldwin and Buckley debate that was in a YouTube posted by Joe Bacon.

Buckley really is a great study in character speech mannerisms and body movements if you ever need to act like a pompous ass. I am now thinking many actors that have had such a role watched this debate.

And to sum up Buckley’s argument: Blacks are their own worst enemy.

And this debate was in 1965.

52 damn years…and it is all the same. Pledge allegiance to the flag. Stand for the National Anthem. All the same.

Blacks…you must stand in line the way we want you too.

And if you don’t and have to pay a price, you have done it to yourselves. Why? You did not follow the fashion and dictates of not White Supremacy, but of the majority. See how simple it all is?

All the damn…same.

And fuck William Buckley and the National Review.

52 damn years later and they are still the same. Protective of their power and capable of verbiage that is nothing but an eloquent excuse for being assholes to other humans.

And then their is something like Puerto Rico. I think Trump said they have in a way not been able to fend for themselves, they haven’t made their island what it could be if they just had drive. And they don’t have the money they owe…must be because they are lazy.

William Buckley would be so proud.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:41:21pm

re: #16 bratwurst

Yet we will STILL hear the narrative that “liberal late night comedians” refuse to touch this story.

Late night comedians and Hollywood actors have completely ignored the Weinstein story. Cover up.

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TedStriker  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:41:25pm

re: #19 EPR-radar

Hoft and Milo think they are safe from a RWNJ auto-da-fe because they are loyal supporters of the movement. It’s a real shame they can’t be proven wrong without a lot of innocent people also being involved.

Yeah, Ernst Rohm and his crew probably thought the same thing, but we all know what happened there.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:41:55pm

re: #23 goddamnedfrank

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The Teamsters in fact have been doing a lot of good down there. That Union has its problems but nothing I’ve seen in how they’ve acted in the aftermath of Maria suggests they’ve acted anything but selfless. Trump meanwhile.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:42:16pm

re: #23 goddamnedfrank

And we’re still hearing that? From Drumpf?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:42:43pm

re: #24 ObserverArt

Comment comes from a continuation of the previous thread.

I finished with the Baldwin and Buckley debate that was in a YouTube posted by Joe Bacon.

Buckley really is a great study in character speech mannerisms and body movements if you ever need to act like a pompous ass. I am now thinking many actors that have had such a role watched this debate.

And to sum up Buckley’s argument: Blacks are their own worst enemy.

And this debate was in 1965.

52 damn years…and it is all the same. Pledge allegiance to the flag. Stand for the National Anthem. All the same.

Blacks…you must stand in line the way we want you too.

And if you don’t and have to pay a price, you have done it to yourselves. Why? You did not follow the fashion and dictates of not White Supremacy, but of the majority. See how simple it all is?

All the damn…same.

And fuck William Buckley and the National Review.

52 damn years later and they are still the same. Protective of their power and capable of verbiage that is nothing but an eloquent excuse for being assholes to other humans.

And then their is something like Puerto Rico. I think Trump said they have in a way not been able to fend for themselves, they haven’t made their island what it could be if they just had drive. And they don’t have the money they owe…must be because they are lazy.

William Buckley would be so proud.

Thanks for reposting that. Anyhow. I think Buckley was a grade asshole who is a big part of why the conservative movement is so shitty.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:42:49pm

re: #28 Dr. Matt

Dotard’s BFF:


Alex Jones peddles Dinesh D’Souza’s completely made-up anti-Semitic attack on George Soros

Was Jones short of his own wackadoo material?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:43:14pm

Canada doesn’t need this:

Robert Spencer and Christine Douglass-Williams will be speaking in Grande Prairie, Alberta on October 29.

He is going to speak against the idea of multi-culturalism.

Information about the talk is at

gatesofvienna (dot) net/2017/10/multi-culture-or-canadian-culture/

My understanding is that site is pretty much a bunch of hateful fascists, who also have a real hatred of our esteemed host Mr. Johnson (though I don’t know much about that Website).

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:44:06pm

re: #28 Dr. Matt

Dotard’s BFF:

Alex Jones peddles Dinesh D’Souza’s completely made-up anti-Semitic attack on George Soros

Gotta use that antisemitic dog whistle to go after a guy who wasn’t even 15 years old when VE Day happened.

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lawhawk  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:44:29pm

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹

They were former posters here before the great flounce of 2007/2008/2009.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:44:47pm

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹

Canada doesn’t need this:

He is going to speak against the idea of multi-culturalism.

Information about the talk is at

gatesofvienna (dot) net/2017/10/multi-culture-or-canadian-culture/

My understanding is that site is pretty much a bunch of hateful fascists, who also have a real hatred of our esteemed host Mr. Johnson (though I don’t know much about that Website).

Yes, Gates of Vienna is a fascist site. If I’m not mistaken, it helped inspire Brevik.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:46:00pm

OT for ww - I was bigly CL’d (miss her terribly RIP)

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:46:04pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:50:33pm

re: #6 Anymouse 🌹

From the previous thread.

Thanks for the info.

It’s not my place to judge why the women who organised the Women’s March on Washington extended that invitation and honour to Senator Sanders. Perhaps they thought they could engage him on the issue of Planned Parenthood or women’s reproductive rights in general.

Perhaps they think that women can’t afford to abandon potential allies.

The Hill article cites them as saying he is a powerful ally in the Senate.

I do know about his “establishment” statement over Planned Parenthood, which I thought was at best ill-informed of the senator. An apology, or a statement he’s learned more about the organisation and knows better now, would be nice.

As far as I can tell, Planned Parenthood has never been an “establishment” organisation, unless that means they are generally supported by the Democratic Party.

If it was me (and I’m a dude* BTW) I would have asked Michelle Obama to speak. She smarter and more popular than Bernie. Alas, they did not ask me.

*I didn’t say “the dude” cause I’m not close to be cool enough.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:51:10pm

The Forward has picked up my Rand Paul/Rage Furby story:

Rep. Rohrabacher Brings Holocaust Denier To Meeting - The Forward

And Chuck is, of course, threatening to sue them.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:52:00pm

re: #38 I Would Prefer Not To

If it was me (and I’m a dude* BTW) I would have asked Michelle Obama to speak. She smarter and more popular than Bernie. Alas, they did not ask me.

*I didn’t say “the dude” cause I’m not close to be cool enough.

Yeah I think Michelle would be a great choice too. It’s their choice but a lot of women I know are quite unhappy with the decision even those who say they like Sanders. Anyhow, my vibe is I don’t think Sanders will be the nom in 2020 or do as well. I think he’s alienated a lot of people.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:52:49pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

The Forward has picked up my Rand Paul/Rage Furby story:

Rep. Rohrabacher Brings Holocaust Denier To Meeting - The Forward

And Chuck is, of course, threatening to sue them.

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Dude, you’re totally a Holocaust denier by your own fuckign words. Fucking Yukon Corneilus without the decency and intelligence.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:52:57pm

re: #33 HappyWarrior

Gotta use that antisemitic dog whistle to go after a guy who wasn’t even 15 years old when VE Day happened.

Soros was Hitler’s right hand man11!! FAC!T!!!!

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:53:14pm

I just love how Chuck thinks he proves he isn’t a Holocaust denier by saying “I am not a Holocaust denier” — in the very same paragraph with blatant, obvious Holocaust denial. This guy is off his fucking rocker.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:53:19pm

re: #12 Sir John Barron

Tony Perkins, the president of Family Research Council, heaped praise on President Trump for his appearance the conference.

“Values voters have waited eight years for a leader who puts America’s mission first and respects the values that made America into a great nation,” he said in a statement.

Slavery, misogamy, xenophobia, …

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:54:30pm

Chuck is going to sue some Jews. I hope they can find a good lawyer or two or three.

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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:54:42pm

Well isn’t this a cute little contest.

Troll farm was everydamnwhere.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:55:08pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

I just love how Chuck thinks he proves he isn’t a Holocaust denier by saying “I am not a Holocaust denier” — in the very same paragraph with blatant, obvious Holocaust denial. This guy is off his fucking rocker.

That’s a fairly typical level of blatant dishonesty from a 21st century Republican.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:55:08pm

re: #44 Anymouse 🌹

Slavery, misogamy, xenophobia, …

He lies, he insults people, he brags. What’s not to like about those values?

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Dr. Matt  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:55:28pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

The Forward has picked up my Rand Paul/Rage Furby story:

Rep. Rohrabacher Brings Holocaust Denier To Meeting - The Forward

And Chuck is, of course, threatening to sue them.

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Time to reset the Rage Furby clock! chuckcjohnson.info

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:55:43pm

re: #46 JordanRules

Well isn’t this a cute little contest.

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Troll farm was everydamnwhere.

I’m telling you. Those old KGB farts in their dachas are totally ruing that it was this easy to manipulate us.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:55:46pm

“I don’t exhale carbon dioxide” I say out loud.

True by Chuck Logic.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:56:25pm
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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:57:01pm

re: #50 HappyWarrior

I’m telling you. Those old KGB farts in their dachas are totally ruing that it was this easy to manipulate us.

It wasn’t that easy back then because whites didn’t have to run to another country to maintain power.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:57:35pm

re: #53 Belafon

It wasn’t that easy back then because whites didn’t have to run to another country to maintain power.

Oh I know but the old Soviet KGB guys don’t know that.

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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 1:57:49pm

re: #40 HappyWarrior

There were so many options that make much more sense. The Women’s March in January in Phoenix wasn’t huge but wow it was an amazing day collectively here, across the country and the world. My Mom and I had a great time. This keynote pick is beyond tone deaf. I’m not even sure what to call it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:01:12pm

I need a nap. Turns out I get tired frequently (something something barbiturates). Catch y’all later… .

Try to keep the world from being blown up in a Twitter rage from Trump whilst I sleep… .

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:01:54pm

re: #6 Anymouse 🌹

From the previous thread.

Thanks for the info.

It’s not my place to judge why the women who organised the Women’s March on Washington extended that invitation and honour to Senator Sanders. Perhaps they thought they could engage him on the issue of Planned Parenthood or women’s reproductive rights in general.

Perhaps they think that women can’t afford to abandon potential allies.

The Hill article cites them as saying he is a powerful ally in the Senate.

I do know about his “establishment” statement over Planned Parenthood, which I thought was at best ill-informed of the senator. An apology, or a statement he’s learned more about the organisation and knows better now, would be nice.

As far as I can tell, Planned Parenthood has never been an “establishment” organisation, unless that means they are generally supported by the Democratic Party.

I hope we are not going to wait too long for that apology/statement. He made the initial comment for a reason. And that was to play to his base. They are not all that concerned about Planned Parenthood. I see it for two reasons. His base does not see a need for PP, and in Bernie world, insurance for all is coming once Bernie or someone like him becomes president so there will be no need for PP.

So until that glorious day comes, PP is established because they are a part of the current political system as they get donations and campaign for established candidates (Hillary Clinton, etc.). And forget the practical thinking of asking what are women going to do without PP? Wait for the day insurance for all is coming. It won’t be long will it?

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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:03:27pm

So good!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:03:31pm

re: #55 JordanRules

There were so many options that make much more sense. The Women’s March in January in Phoenix wasn’t huge but wow it was an amazing day collectively here, across the country and the world. My Mom and I had a great time. This keynote pick is beyond tone deaf. I’m not even sure what to call it.

Yeah I don’t get it,

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:03:37pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:03:47pm

re: #7 Kragar

Kragar @Kragar_LGF
Donald Trump to be first President to speak at anti-LGBT hate group’s event independent.co.uk
4:27 PM - Oct 12, 2017

Wow.

He is out to solidify that base and make sure everyone else absolutely hates him.

What a politician.

What an Asshole!

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:04:01pm

re: #58 JordanRules

It’s almost as if the “casting couch” is not just a metaphor.

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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:05:18pm

re: #62 freetoken

Ahh but you see, unlike our media, she doesn’t forget to make the connection to the predator in the Oval and what that means.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:05:22pm

re: #57 ObserverArt

I hope we are not going to wait too long for that apology/statement. He made the initial comment for a reason. And that was to play to his base. They are not all that concerned about Planned Parenthood. I see it for two reasons. His base does not see a need for PP, and in Bernie world, insurance for all is coming once Bernie or someone like him becomes president so there will be no need for PP.

So until that glorious day comes, PP is established because they are a part of the current political system as they get donations and campaign for established candidates (Hillary Clinton, etc.). And forget the practical thinking of asking what are women going to do without PP? Wait for the day insurance for all is coming. It won’t be long will it?

It was such a jerk move to make considering all the crap PP had been taking that year. I don’t think I’ve seen a left wing politician that has as much popularity as Sanders does that totally dismisses issues of importance to minorities and women the way he does. It really is no wonder to me that some of his most obnoxious supporters are well like me, young white guys who aren’t the most empathetic.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:05:25pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

The Forward has picked up my Rand Paul/Rage Furby story:

Rep. Rohrabacher Brings Holocaust Denier To Meeting - The Forward

And Chuck is, of course, threatening to sue them.

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I’m not a Holocaust denier…I just don’t believe the statistics or that gas chambers are real, and I emphasize that I’ve read Mein Kampf in my list of WW2 literature…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:05:45pm

re: #60 FormerDirtDart

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Doubt he knows that or cares.

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MsJ  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:06:13pm

re: #60 FormerDirtDart

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:08:02pm
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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:08:48pm

re: #58 JordanRules

So good!

Yeah. And one of the ways you can tell is by who is cast in movies. There’s a reason an older man is paired with a significantly younger woman.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:11:05pm

re: #60 FormerDirtDart

C’mon, can’t expect the POTUS to know that or know anything about how the government he leads works.

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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:12:44pm

This “Real Housewife” has been working her ass off on PR relief. I’ve been so impressed.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:14:02pm
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freetoken  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:15:13pm

America has a religiosity problem, and there are hardly no political leaders who are willing to broach it.

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:18:39pm

To declare “life” begins at conception is a religious statement, not a scientific one.

If some politician can’t even declare that, then they have no background.

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:19:08pm

re: #74 freetoken

I meant “backbone”, but “background” also will fit.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:22:39pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:22:42pm

re: #73 freetoken

America has a religiosity problem, and there are hardly no political leaders who are willing to broach it.

That religiosity problem being the electorate. Since they are religious, they will vote the way their religious leaders tell them to. “That politician supports abortion rights. If you vote for him, you imperil your soul.” It is pretty easy for a group of religious leaders (cough cough Catholics, Evangelicals) to manipulate people into voting against their interests in the tens of millions.

I’m not sure how to address it. A politician running as an atheist is almost certainly a dead letter in an election. There is a reason only two of us are in office in my state at any level of government, and Sen. Ernie Chambers is term-limited. (Atheists appear to be the largest minority without representation in government, and almost universally acceptable to discriminate against.)

It is noteworthy that Rep. Pete Stark came out as an atheist in very liberal California. It is more noteworthy he did that after he retired from Congress. Even there apparently saying you’re an atheist would doom your candidacy.

If it won’t work in California, it pretty much won’t work anywhere else in the nation.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:23:32pm

Apparently tropical cyclones do impact Europe relatively regularly, but rarely have storms retained hurricane strength by the time of their arrival.

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nines09  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:24:43pm

Listening to a bit of Eric today. Got to see him before I cannot. Cooking calls, this plays in the background. Man….Eric can grab that lightning and bend it.
Never give up.

Eric Clapton - Double Trouble With Steve Winwood Live At Madison Square Garden

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:27:50pm

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹

The reason I wrote “religiosity” and not “religious” is differentiate between the large fraction of the electorate who may (nominally or really) hold religious views, and those who want to make religious views into political action.

I’m not at all saying that any belief in god(s) rules out someone from voting or holding office.

But we see two instances today of religious beliefs - one leading to UNESCO decision, the other the defining of “life” - that are directly the result of years of political activity by fundamentalists in this country.

Where are the politicians who know that the religious right are in fact in error, in voicing any argument about the origins of these decisions.

Of course there will be some leaders who decry the HHS decision because it’s an attempt to eliminate abortions. But will these same leaders take on the ideological basis of this HHS decision?

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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:28:49pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:30:58pm

re: #62 freetoken

It’s almost as if the “casting couch” is not just a metaphor.

I mentioned “casting couch” the other night.

We must also consider that it is a fantasy for a lot of men. And fantasies often turn to realities if you have the power and the backing to make the jump without penalty.

Because some men protect other men, even when knowing it is wrong. Due to the fantasy possibly. Also because of the power.

Rat on Weinstein and you either lose your job or are seen as not one of the boys. So fall in line and let it go.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:31:49pm

re: #71 JordanRules

This “Real Housewife” has been working her ass off on PR relief. I’ve been so impressed.

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She’s being amazing.

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:33:07pm

re: #69 Belafon

Yeah. And one of the ways you can tell is by who is cast in movies. There’s a reason an older man is paired with a significantly younger woman.

Ahh…even more fantasy. Hollywood, where dreams (fantasies) come true.

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:34:34pm

re: #73 freetoken

America has a religiosity problem, and there are hardly no political leaders who are willing to broach it.

Just like guns. In oh so many ways.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:34:38pm

Incredible but true.
Cops: Texas Tech student was pulled over in stolen gun case before officer’s killing

Police have now confirmed that accused cop killer and yokel rich boy Hollis Daniels had brought the gun into the police station himself before he used it to murder Officer Floyd East. Worse, Lubbock police (a different department) had stopped Daniels several hours earlier because of a report that he had stolen a gun and made terroristic threats. They decided they lacked probable cause to search his car or detain him, and he was let go. His room mate and his mother then called police about his threatening behavior, which prompted the check at his dorm room.

This is the fuck up of all fuck ups.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:35:35pm

re: #86 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Incredible but true.
Cops: Texas Tech student was pulled over in stolen gun case before officer’s killing

Police have now confirmed that accused cop killer and yokel rich boy Hollis Daniels had brought the gun into the police station himself before he used it to murder Officer Floyd East. Worse, Lubbock police (a different department) had stopped Daniels several hours earlier because of a report that he had stolen a gun and made terroristic threats. They decided they lacked probable cause to search his car or detain him, and he was let go. His room mate and his mother then called police about his threatening behavior, which prompted the check at his dorm room.

This is the fuck up of all fuck ups.

Cops allowing white privilege got another cop killed.

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:37:28pm

re: #85 ObserverArt

Just like guns. In oh so many ways.

Guns and God.

Some candidate once mentioned something about Americans clinging to their Bible and guns, and he was right. He was excoriated for it… exactly because he was right.

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TedStriker  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:37:50pm

re: #82 ObserverArt

I mentioned “casting couch” the other night.

We must also consider that it is a fantasy for a lot of men. And fantasies often turn to realities if you have the power and the backing to make the jump without penalty.

Because some men protect other men, even when knowing it is wrong. Due to the fantasy possibly. Also because of the power.

Rat on Weinstein and you either lose your job or are seen as not one of the boys. So fall in line and let it go.

See what happened to Terry Fucking Crews; he’s so jacked, he could have squashed that movie exec that grabbed his package at a fucking public function, but he didn’t. Crews knew that, as a black man, he would have been the one to go to jail had he retaliated right there and he sure as fuck couldn’t go public before Weinstein blew up, because he would have been blackballed.

When something like that happens to a (nice) guy like Crews and he has to basically brush it off in order to stay out of jail and to keep working, shit’s all fucked up.

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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:38:28pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:39:44pm

re: #78 FormerDirtDart

Apparently tropical cyclones do impact Europe relatively regularly, but rarely have storms retained hurricane strength by the time of their arrival.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:40:15pm

re: #90 JordanRules

But they are addressing it: It’s Hillary’s fault.

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austin_blue  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:40:29pm

re: #89 TedStriker

See what happened to Terry Fucking Crews; he’s so jacked, he could have squashed that movie exec that grabbed his package at a fucking public function, but he didn’t. Crews knew that, as a black man, he would have been the one to go to jail had he retaliated right there and he sure as fuck couldn’t go public before Weinstein blew up, because he would have been blackballed.

Sounds like someone wanted to whiteball him…

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:41:11pm

re: #86 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

So we have white idiot gets every possible advantage from white privilege conceivable in interactions with multiple law enforcement agencies, and still manages to fuck things up and become a cop killer.

Sure, this was the way to bet when the story first broke, but did all my preconceptions have to be confirmed so depressingly thoroughly?

Now we’ll get to see the entire TX criminal justice seize up because of a conflict between the right of rich white male assholes to do as they please (including the casual murder of others) and the right of cops to do as they please (including the casual murder of others).

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TedStriker  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:43:09pm

re: #93 austin_blue

Sounds like someone wanted to whiteball him…

*groan*

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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:44:40pm

re: #92 Belafon

Indeed. She’s so damn powerful with her lady bits and whatnot!

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austin_blue  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:47:32pm

re: #91 FormerDirtDart

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There have been several post-tropical lows that have held together and bashed Europe, One a few years back tore the holy fuck out of the southern UK. What’s different here is that she’s still subtropical and is strengthening this far east and north.

But, you know, Anthro Climate Change doesn’t exist.

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austin_blue  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:49:23pm

re: #95 TedStriker

*groan*

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Hey, I’m here all week! Try the veal and don’t forget to generously tip your server.

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TedStriker  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:49:44pm

re: #98 austin_blue

Hey, I’m here all week! Try the veal and don’t forget to generously tip your server.

*gets out the hook*

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:50:15pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:52:23pm

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹

That religiosity problem being the electorate. Since they are religious, they will vote the way their religious leaders tell them to. “That politician supports abortion rights. If you vote for him, you imperil your soul.” It is pretty easy for a group of religious leaders (cough cough Catholics, Evangelicals) to manipulate people into voting against their interests in the tens of millions.

I’m not sure how to address it. A politician running as an atheist is almost certainly a dead letter in an election. There is a reason only two of us are in office in my state at any level of government, and Sen. Ernie Chambers is term-limited. (Atheists appear to be the largest minority without representation in government, and almost universally acceptable to discriminate against.)

It is noteworthy that Rep. Pete Stark came out as an atheist in very liberal California. It is more noteworthy he did that after he retired from Congress. Even there apparently saying you’re an atheist would doom your candidacy.

If it won’t work in California, it pretty much won’t work anywhere else in the nation.

Thing about Catholics though. They very often go in the other direction from the dictates of the church. I know, I was one and was schooled as one. It is a fairly loose religion and so there is not that march to the polls to do what the church says to do.

Is that hypocritical? I let others be the judge.

I am no longer practicing, but I will say there is no way you can be educated by the church to not be influenced by some of the better aspects later in your life. And there are good aspects. I look at them as human and practical.

But it too is politics and even within the church there are fights over the politics.

Many members attend and practice for the spirituality and skip the politics. That is why you see someone like now-passed Catholic Senator Ted Kennedy that stood up for something as liberal as abortion and birth control. Tim Kaine would be another. I don’t think you can find many such examples in the more fundamental Senate members.

I guess I just want to make sure you understand that not every Catholic is a robot. There may be degrees too.

I may think Catholics are more liberal and less robotic in following their religion than say Evangelicals. But I will not say I have any proof of it, just a feeling.

Boiled down; not everyone fits in a box. You might try some cough syrup.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:52:24pm

re: #94 EPR-radar

So we have white idiot gets every possible advantage from white privilege conceivable in interactions with multiple law enforcement agencies, and still manages to fuck things up and become a cop killer.

Sure, this was the way to bet when the story first broke, but did all my preconceptions have to be confirmed so depressingly thoroughly?

Now we’ll get to see the entire TX criminal justice seize up because of a conflict between the right of rich white male assholes to do as they please (including the casual murder of others) and the right of cops to do as they please (including the casual murder of others).

I don’t know what defense his family will put up, but I do know that Lubbock prosecutors are no match for the high powered big city team the Daniels clan can hire to try to get him off, or at least keep him off death row. Remember Richard Haynes over-awing a redneck Amarillo jury to get child killer and millionaire creationist T. Cullen Davis acquitted? Haynes’s nickname, “Racehorse,” was probably worth a couple of jury votes by itself.
Prosecutor Tim Curry said, “We were out-bought and out-thought”

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:52:43pm

re: #80 freetoken

The reason I wrote “religiosity” and not “religious” is differentiate between the large fraction of the electorate who may (nominally or really) hold religious views, and those who want to make religious views into political action.

I don’t see a difference between a politician who runs to make his or her religious views into political actions, and a voter who says “that’s what I believe too, so I will vote for that person.”

For example, there are many anti-abortion politicians. They universally hold their view based on religious positions. Single-issue voters who vote for them are voting for them because of the politician’s religious position.

I would compare that to Trump and his ardent supporters. Trump ran on an explicitly racist platform. A lot of his supporters thought “that’s what I want too” and pulled the lever for him. I see no difference.

I’m not at all saying that any belief in god(s) rules out someone from voting or holding office.

However, repeated polling of the electorate indicates the majority of voters (including liberals) think so.

But we see two instances today of religious beliefs - one leading to UNESCO decision, …

See my comments above … a law passed during the Bush administration required that decision. Cutting off funding for UNESCO occurred during the Obama Administration based on the same law. The law was passed for bigoted (and possibly religious) reasons, but that is the law on the books.

… the other the defining of “life” - that are directly the result of years of political activity by fundamentalists in this country.

And they will keep trying. Even Mississippi voters rejected a so-called “personhood” amendment.

That is also a good way to paint your opponents, in the same way opposing laws restricting porn gets you painted as “pro-porn” and drives out the religious voters.

It doesn’t make any difference whether a person says “I am a regular church goer” or “well, I don’t believe in all that organised religion stuff” - they are still religious, and many religious voters will put their religion over other issues.

That makes it very hard for non-Christians to hold office. It makes it difficult to support all religions as a politician by favouring none-how many voters, even those who claim not to be church goers-still hate “liberals” for “taking prayer out of school?”

Christopher Hitchens noted that “religion poisons everything.” All a politician has to do is paint themselves as the “religious” candidate and that’s it.

It doesn’t matter how good a guy Doug Jones (D) is in Alabama. It doesn’t matter how little Roy Moore (R) cares about the law. There is a reason he was reëlected to the Alabama Supreme Court after he was removed: It was precisely because he plays the religion card so well.

The voters simply pull the lever for the guy they perceive is most religious, regardless of his behaviour or that of his opponent.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:56:59pm

re: #100 Dave In Austin

Independent: A temporarily embarrassed Republican who will still pull the (R) lever in an election.

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:57:31pm

re: #86 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Incredible but true.
Cops: Texas Tech student was pulled over in stolen gun case before officer’s killing

Police have now confirmed that accused cop killer and yokel rich boy Hollis Daniels had brought the gun into the police station himself before he used it to murder Officer Floyd East. Worse, Lubbock police (a different department) had stopped Daniels several hours earlier because of a report that he had stolen a gun and made terroristic threats. They decided they lacked probable cause to search his car or detain him, and he was let go. His room mate and his mother then called police about his threatening behavior, which prompted the check at his dorm room.

This is the fuck up of all fuck ups.

I saw that earlier, but didn’t comment.

Where is having a report of a stolen gun and making terroristic threats not a probable cause for a search for said gun???

Texas…and being White.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:58:47pm

Has anyone decided if NoKo popped off another one or not?

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Dr. Matt  Oct 12, 2017 • 2:59:30pm

re: #104 Anymouse 🌹

Independent: A temporarily embarrassed Republican who will still pull the (R) lever in an election.

I was literally about to type the same thing. In 2006 following 6 years of failures from the dubyah regime, suddenly every conservative/GOPer became an “independent”.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:01:41pm
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jaunte  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:03:10pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:03:31pm

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹

Canada doesn’t need this:

He is going to speak against the idea of multi-culturalism.

Information about the talk is at

gatesofvienna (dot) net/2017/10/multi-culture-or-canadian-culture/

My understanding is that site is pretty much a bunch of hateful fascists, who also have a real hatred of our esteemed host Mr. Johnson (though I don’t know much about that Website).

I don’t understand how Spencer can be let into Canada given its stringent hate speech laws. He should be banned.
en.wikipedia.org

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:03:43pm

Well, I said I was going to bed earlier, now I am drooping even more. I need to take that nap before my head hits the keybo;f;oihrt;sghlbdkn;trlkhwnt

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:08:10pm

re: #88 freetoken

Guns and God.

Some candidate once mentioned something about Americans clinging to their Bible and guns, and he was right. He was excoriated for it… exactly because he was right.

That was in fact Barack Obama:

“It’s not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:13:12pm

re: #112 Eclectic Cyborg

That was in fact Barack Obama:

“It’s not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

The media doled out quite a bit of punishment for that bit of truth-telling.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:20:33pm

Republicans are obstinately stupid. They’ll steadfastly believe and repeat an established lie rather than acknowledge the truth.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:25:11pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

It’s cruel to ask Republicans to pull their heads of out their asses. Shitheads need lots of shit on their heads to be able to perform what passes for thought on the right.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:25:14pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

Love that persons handle.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:30:48pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:31:20pm

re: #116 Eclectic Cyborg

Love that persons handle.

That person is me, this year’s seasonal Halloween nic.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:33:20pm

re: #118 goddamnedfrank

Oh, lol! Nice!

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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:34:21pm

Hey, it’s the black dude that Lumpy touched!

I wonder how much he makes for his ignorant tomfoolery?

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darthstar  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:39:59pm

Good…Fuck that asshole.

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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:41:19pm

Today is tew much y’all.

If you’re on Twitter, please blast Newsweek. This is so foul.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:41:30pm

re: #121 darthstar

I guess the Queen of England was not interested in possibly having her pussy grabbed by the ignorant savage in the white house.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:42:40pm

re: #121 darthstar

Good…Fuck that asshole.

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Takes a lot to not make want her see you.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:43:23pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

Republicans are obstinately stupid. They’ll steadfastly believe and repeat an established lie rather than acknowledge the truth.

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It’s amazing to think that people believe there would be a strike in the middle of disaster relief.

Let’s play this out: what do they think would’ve happened if a bunch of truckers were on strike and letting supplies just sit around? Leaving aside the likelihood of violence against said drivers, do they not think that people would have been commandeering the vehicles to get supplies moving? Do they not think (and this is of course rhetorical) that there would be a major outcry from relief groups on the ground about said strike?

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scottslemmons  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:45:48pm

re: #122 JordanRules

Today is tew much y’all.

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If you’re on Twitter, please blast Newsweek. This is so foul.

… I don’t understand how someone thought that was a good idea. Newsweek is the Dove Soap of bad news ideas.

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darthstar  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:46:11pm

re: #124 HappyWarrior

Takes a lot to not make want her see you.

As I read through the articles, I learned the official state visit w/the queen is usually granted during a US President’s secondterm. But of course Trump wanted it now! and pissed people off with demands for a ride in the golden carriage.

Now he’ll be a guest of the US Ambassador to the UK…which means he may have to appoint one (or is that one of the few places where he did manage to fill the job?)

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:46:58pm

So did anyone here actually hear this from El Tubbo?

Sounds bogus to me. Limbaugh would love a right wing dictatorship unless it would cost him money.

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TedStriker  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:47:06pm

re: #124 HappyWarrior

Takes a lot to not make want her see you.

Soooo, I guess Trump’s never going to get to ride in the royal carriage?

/

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:47:47pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

Republicans are obstinately stupid. They’ll steadfastly believe and repeat an established lie rather than acknowledge the truth.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:50:55pm

re: #125 Mike Lamb

It’s amazing to think that people believe there would be a strike in the middle of disaster relief.

Let’s play this out: what do they think would’ve happened if a bunch of truckers were on strike and letting supplies just sit around? Leaving aside the likelihood of violence against said drivers, do they not think that people would have been commandeering the vehicles to get supplies moving? Do they not think (and this is of course rhetorical) that there would be a major outcry from relief groups on the ground about said strike?

Republicans don’t think, and have no connection to reality. They will just make up fairy tales of unions causing trouble for the PR relief effort because that is a politically useful story for team (R). Were he still here, DF could easily have given precisely this explanation (without the editorializing) and defended it as helping team (R) to win.

Republicans that aren’t actively festering pools of crystallized evil malevolence are moral ciphers, perfectly willing to let said festering pools of crystallized evil malevolence run the party if the moral ciphers get their itches scratched.

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:52:37pm

re: #128 Skip Intro

So did anyone here actually hear this from El Tubbo?

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Sounds bogus to me. Limbaugh would love a right wing dictatorship unless it would cost him money.

Yeah, saw the clip from his show on MSNBC earlier where he did say that. He said it was bad for Trump to call for it, but he was just fine with the NFL forcing their players to stand. Cover for his boy/

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:52:45pm

re: #121 darthstar

Good…Fuck that asshole.

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Visit scheduled for “early next year.” Could we be lucky enough to have President Ryan or President Hatch by then? I am assuming that dirty Pence will be passed over.
And how far we have descended that Ryan would be a positive improvement!

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austin_blue  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:54:29pm

From the NYT “Reporter’s Notebook” today. If you don’t have a catch in your throat at the end of this, your last name is probably Trump:

By JOHN BRANCHOCT. 11, 2017

NOVATO, Calif. — I was on the sideline of a soccer field two Saturdays ago, watching my 12-year-old daughter and her Novato teammates. I don’t remember much about that game, but Novato won, and one of the goals was scored by the smallest girl on the team, a quick and feisty forward who wears a long ponytail and jersey No. 8. We whooped and cheered her name. I found out later that her parents weren’t there that afternoon. They were in Las Vegas for a getaway weekend.

About 36 hours later, I was on my way to Las Vegas myself, rushing to join my New York Times colleagues to cover the latest mass shooting, maybe bigger than them all. I hadn’t covered one of them since 1999, when I was in the wrong place at the right time and rushed into the aftermath of Columbine.

A colleague of mine and I checked into a massive suite at Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, 11 floors directly below that of the shooter. It had the same view of the concert ground across the Strip, where investigators in the daylight were picking through the carnage of the night before. That was about when my wife sent me a text. That little soccer player’s mom was at the concert the night before, she said. She’s missing.

But Stacee Etcheber was not my story. The gunman was. I spent a week mostly about 100 feet below where the shooter committed mass murder, trying to solve the mystery of what he’d done. I talked to people, followed every lead and wrote stories. It’s what reporters do. It was a news story, as horrific as they come, and we’re trained to keep our emotional distance from the things that we cover.

Late that night, I stood in front of the window, the same one that a madman broke 11 floors above and used as a perch to shoot hundreds of people he did not know. The body count was on its way to 58. I thought about home.

Stacee’s family soon announced that she died. My wife and I didn’t really know Stacee much — obviously not well enough to notice that she was not among the few dozen people at a rec-level girls’ soccer game. But some of our closest friends were dear friends of hers, and our town is small enough that there was probably no more than two degrees of separation to the family.

My family was among the hundreds of people, friends and strangers, who crowded onto the grounds of an elementary school and held candles aloft during the vigil. My daughter was one of the dozens of kids who solemnly held roses in her honor, and she hugged her classmate and teammate when it ended. She and a couple of friends made a cake and delivered it to the Etchebers’ house the next day.

Orange was Stacee’s favorite color, and on Friday, after people bought as much orange ribbon as they could find at all the local craft stores, an army tied ribbons all around town, from the trees on downtown’s Grant Avenue to the posts in front of Pioneer Park. My wife and her friends tied them around the trees in front of the middle school where Stacee’s daughter goes to school, along with mine.

I missed it all. I was as close to the site of the shooting as you could get, and yet felt fully disconnected from the effect of the tragedy. One night I walked to the memorial that sprang up in the median of South Las Vegas Boulevard, the kind of now-familiar post-shooting memorial that I saw at Columbine almost two decades before, with balloons and flowers and candles. I found a photo of Stacee that had been placed in the middle of it all, and took a picture and sent it home.

In Las Vegas, Stacee was just one in a crowd, part of a list. But she and her family were all anyone talked or thought about back in Novato, and that is where I got my news. I heard that Stacee’s husband, a San Francisco police officer, was running with Stacee through the barrage of gunfire when he stopped to help someone; he told his wife to go on and never saw her alive again. I heard that television news trucks were parked in front of the house. I heard stories of friends pulling over in their cars to cry at the weight and nearness of it all. There were beautiful and crushingly sad Facebook posts in Stacee’s honor, the kind you see after every tragedy, except these were written by people I knew well.

I heard my wife, who grew up in a nearby town, tell me that she had never been more proud to call Novato home.

I checked out of that Mandalay Bay suite on Saturday morning, excused from reporting duties, and flew home in the hopes of making my daughter’s soccer game. I found the red rose from the vigil, starting to fade and wilt, in a vase on the kitchen counter. When we got to the game, we and the other parents were somewhat surprised to see Stacee’s husband and extended family there, too. Warming up with the girls was No. 8, with her long ponytail.

We all wore orange ribbons, attached by safety pins, including the girls on both teams. The Novato team wore orange armbands with the initials “S.E.” Before kickoff, both squads came across the field to the spectator side and lined up in straight lines. Our team’s coach asked the parents to stand for 30 seconds of silence. And then two of the league’s better teams played a rather meaningless soccer game, only this one felt about as meaningful as anything I’ve ever watched.

And it was late in the second half when the ball suddenly swung from one end to the other, and Stacee’s daughter gave chase through three retreating opponents and beat them all to the ball. And in one blink-and-you-missed-it moment, she booted the ball into the corner of the net for what held on as the winning goal.

Her teammates chased her and swarmed her, and they and she looked as free and happy as girls can be on a sunny fall Saturday afternoon with their friends. The parents jumped and cheered as loudly as I’ve heard parents cheer at a kids’ soccer game. Behind my sunglasses, I was bawling. It was the first time I’d cried all week.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:55:09pm

President Hatch would get on well with Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip since he isn’t far from the same age.

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darthstar  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:55:57pm

re: #133 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Visit scheduled for “early next year.” Could we be lucky enough to have President Ryan or President Hatch by then? I am assuming that dirty Pence will be passed over.
And how far we have descended that Ryan would be a positive improvement!

I just can’t wait for the rest of the Trump family and the Kushners to have their markers called. I’m hoping every single one of them has to start a gofundme page for their legal fees.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:56:20pm

Thread

The name Rand Paul is being kicked around…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:57:59pm

re: #137 Dave In Austin

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The name Rand Paul is being kicked around…

Hopefully on the short list of “people needing a swift kick in the ass”…

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:58:34pm

re: #137 Dave In Austin

This may be the fallout start of the Bannon statement to clear the Senate. Maybe… Just a thought.

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:59:23pm

re: #134 austin_blue

From the NYT “Reporter’s Notebook” today. If you don’t have a catch in your throat at the end of this, your last name is probably Trump:

By JOHN BRANCHOCT. 11, 2017

NOVATO, Calif. — I was on the sideline of a soccer field two Saturdays ago, watching my 12-year-old daughter and her Novato teammates. I don’t remember much about that game, but Novato won, and one of the goals was scored by the smallest girl on the team, a quick and feisty forward who wears a long ponytail and jersey No. 8. We whooped and cheered her name. I found out later that her parents weren’t there that afternoon. They were in Las Vegas for a getaway weekend.

Sniff. Got something in my eye.

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darthstar  Oct 12, 2017 • 3:59:56pm
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austin_blue  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:00:31pm

re: #140 ObserverArt

Sniff. Got something in my eye.

Inorite?

That’s a powerful bit of writing.

143
Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:00:39pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:01:05pm

You know, it’s funny.
I’ve seen these women’s pictures literally dozens of times in the past couple days

But, this guy I had to go searching for.
The only reasons I’m even aware of Estes is some islamophobe on another site suggested he was radicalized by ISIS
You can find his name in the news, mostly regurgitations of AP releases, but no in depth national coverage.

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austin_blue  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:01:44pm

re: #141 darthstar

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Dog on the plane:

It’s not for the food…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:02:11pm

re: #143 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

Ladies and gentlemen, The King has left the building. I repeat, Elvis has left the building.

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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:02:36pm

Whoa, cool workaround.

148
austin_blue  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:06:11pm

re: #146 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ladies and gentlemen, The King has left the building. I repeat, Elvis has left the building.

It’s a perk routinely given to generals (hence, flag officers) in the military. Even their cars have flags.

149
EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:08:42pm

re: #143 Stanley Sea

Jesus fucking Christ, what’s next for these clowns? When do they start giving themselves titles like Radiance, Excellency, Grand Poohbah, Minister of the Right, Jade Emperor, High Exaltedness, Lord Captain Commander, The Awesome Royal Glory, Imperious Rex, etc.?

150
whitebeach  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:10:40pm

re: #149 EPR-radar

Jesus fucking Christ, what’s next for these clowns? When do they start giving themselves titles like Radiance, Excellency, Grand Poohbah, Minister of the Right, Jade Emperor, High Exaltedness, Lord Captain Commander, The Awesome Royal Glory, Imperious Rex, etc.?

Why not? They’ve already got dibs on Grand Dragon and Imperial Wizard.

151
austin_blue  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:12:48pm

re: #149 EPR-radar

Jesus fucking Christ, what’s next for these clowns? When do they start giving themselves titles like Radiance, Excellency, Grand Poohbah, Minister of the Right, Jade Emperor, High Exaltedness, Lord Captain Commander, The Awesome Royal Glory, Imperious Rex, etc.?

Now, now, you pleb. “Your Worship” will do nicely. Now go talk to that nice policeman over there and justify your outburst, or I’ll have flayed, half-hanged, drawn, and quartered.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:14:10pm

re: #150 whitebeach

Why not? They’ve already got dibs on Grand Dragon and Imperial Wizard.

I knew I was forgetting a few things on that list.

153
Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:28:06pm

re: #134 austin_blue

Link?

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TedStriker  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:29:19pm

re: #148 austin_blue

It’s a perk routinely given to generals (hence, flag officers) in the military. Even their cars have flags.

But, that’s the thing; Zinke’s not a flag officer, he’s not even in the fucking military. He’s a civilian Cabinet secretary, apparently with delusions of grandeur.

From the WP story:

“Ryan Zinke is proud and honored to lead the Department of the Interior, and is restoring honor and tradition to the department, whether it’s flying the flag when he is in garrison or restoring traditional access to public lands,” press secretary Heather Swift said in an email.

What? “In garrison”? Zinke really, really wants some of that military shine for himself, doesn’t he?

155
Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:30:08pm

re: #149 EPR-radar

I’m waiting for the uniforms.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:32:44pm

re: #154 TedStriker

But, that’s the thing; Zinke’s not a flag officer, he’s not even in the fucking military. He’s a civilian Cabinet secretary, apparently with delusions of grandeur.

Flag officers in the military have earned a few perqs, and that flag business is not completely insane once you realize it may be useful to have quick ways to find commanders if the shit hits the fan (especially unexpectedly).

Meanwhile Zinke’s only claim to fame is that he pleasured old man t**** better than any other candidate for Interior.

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austin_blue  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:34:26pm

re: #153 Belafon

Link?

nytimes.com

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:34:48pm

re: #155 Skip Intro

I’m waiting for the uniforms.

I’m waiting for the giant gold statue of t**** on the white house lawn, on a motorized base so that it always faces the sun. The fact that construction on this has not yet started demonstrates a deplorable lack of imagination among the army of flatterers, toadies, lickspittles, sycophants and cravens that surrounds t**** 24/7.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:37:37pm
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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:38:43pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:38:49pm
The fact that the Curia is now making its peace with Fascism shows that the Vatican trusts the new political realities far more than did the former liberal democracy with which it could not come to terms. …The fact that the Catholic Church has come to an agreement with Fascist Italy …proves beyond doubt that the Fascist world of ideas is closer to Christianity than those of Jewish liberalism or even atheistic Marxism…

By its decision to carry out the political and moral cleansing of our public life, the Government is creating and securing the conditions for a really deep and inner religious life. The advantages for the individual which may be derived from compromises with atheistic organizations do not compare in any way with the consequences which are visible in the destruction of our common religious and ethical values. The national Government sees in both Christian denominations the most important factor for the maintenance of our society. …

thoughtco.com

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:41:40pm

re: #158 EPR-radar

I’m waiting for the giant gold statue of t**** on the white house lawn, on a motorized base so that it always faces the sun. The fact that construction on this has not yet started demonstrates a deplorable lack of imagination among the army of flatterers that surrounds t**** 24/7.

They’re busy building their fucking wall. The statue will stand atop it, middle finger extended towards Mexico.

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lawhawk  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:41:58pm

re: #141 darthstar

He’s got better manners than the President?

164
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:42:31pm

as a farmer, I say this with all sincerity…go fuck yerself.

165
Belafon  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:43:10pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

as a farmer, I say this with all sincerity…go fuck yerself.

[Embedded content]

I bet they love him now.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:44:16pm

re: #159 Ace-o-aces

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Might?!?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:44:35pm

I’m re-watching the Mythbusters episode where they fired a ping-pong ball out of an air cannon at 1100 mph and through a wooden paddle. It reminds me of the days when I would argue with 9/11 Twoofer nuts about how the harder material doesn’t always win, if the softer material has enough velocity behind it. It’s also spectacular and slightly disturbing to see that little orange plastic ball traveling at Mach 1.5.

168
Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:46:19pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

as a farmer, I say this with all sincerity…go fuck yerself.

[Embedded content]

Every event is a campaign rally for this sad sack loser.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:47:00pm

re: #46 JordanRules

Well isn’t this a cute little contest.

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Troll farm was everydamnwhere.

They left no stone unturned. We didn’t know what hit us.

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austin_blue  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:52:13pm

re: #168 Skip Intro

Every event is a campaign rally for this sad sack loser.

What’s the word I’m looking for…Huckabee?…nope…Huckabucka?…nope…oh, there it is Huckster! Also Grifter, Flim-Flam Man, Shyster, and Lying Carnie.

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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:52:39pm

re: #169 Patricia Kayden

They hit from every angle. I’m amazed at the scope of it. And most of our fellow citizens still don’t have a clue.

172
austin_blue  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:54:39pm

re: #169 Patricia Kayden

They left no stone unturned. We didn’t know what hit us.

The Russians did. They turned the stones. Clever little trolls.

Who knew Mencken’s Great Unwashed were that gullible and naive?

Oh, wait, again, the Russians.

173
FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:56:21pm

Well, they’re not exactly reviews on par with Haribo’s sugar free Gummy Bears

174
Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 4:56:28pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

Happy day to YOU.

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lawhawk  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:00:34pm
176
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:02:06pm

re: #175 lawhawk

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Yeah, but Trump had to whitesplain it to him for it to sink in.

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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:05:30pm

“Parallel to the training of the body a struggle against the poisoning of the soul must begin. Our whole public life today is like a hothouse for sexual ideas and simulations. Just look at the bill of fare served up in our movies, vaudeville and theaters, and you will hardly be able to deny that this is not the right kind of food, particularly for the youth…Theater, art, literature, cinema, press, posters, and window displays must be cleansed of all manifestations of our rotting world and placed in the service of a moral, political, and cultural idea.”

“While both denominations maintain missions in Asia and Africa in order to win new followers for their doctrine — an activity which can boast but very modest success compared to the advance of the Mohammedan faith in particular — right here in Europe they lose millions and millions of inward adherents who either are alien to all religious life or simply go their own ways. The consequences, particularly from a moral point of view, are not favorable.”
- Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 10

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:07:28pm

Heartwarming tale from Ivana’s new book about Donald and Jr.

When Jr. was born, Donald didn’t want to give him his name “in case he turns out to be a loser”.

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austin_blue  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:08:24pm

re: #177 gocart mozart

“Parallel to the training of the body a struggle against the poisoning of the soul must begin. Our whole public life today is like a hothouse for sexual ideas and simulations. Just look at the bill of fare served up in our movies, vaudeville and theaters, and you will hardly be able to deny that this is not the right kind of food, particularly for the youth…Theater, art, literature, cinema, press, posters, and window displays must be cleansed of all manifestations of our rotting world and placed in the service of a moral, political, and cultural idea.”

“While both denominations maintain missions in Asia and Africa in order to win new followers for their doctrine — an activity which can boast but very modest success compared to the advance of the Mohammedan faith in particular — right here in Europe they lose millions and millions of inward adherents who either are alien to all religious life or simply go their own ways. The consequences, particularly from a moral point of view, are not favorable.”
- Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 10

If history does not repeat, it at least loudly echoes…

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austin_blue  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:09:54pm

re: #178 Skip Intro

Heartwarming tale from Ivana’s new book about Donald and Jr.

When Jr. was born, Donald didn’t want to give him his name “in case he turns out to be a loser”.

Someone has been reading Gail Collins!

181
Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:10:11pm

Well.

182
TedStriker  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:12:58pm

re: #181 Stanley Sea

Well.

O RLY?

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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:14:39pm

re: #181 Stanley Sea

At least he didn’t have to do it himself like Kevin Durant. LOL

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:18:12pm
185
Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:23:18pm

re: #155 Skip Intro

I’m waiting for the uniforms.

Hmmm. The Third Reich had a bewildering assortment of uniforms for civilian officials.

186
Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:23:38pm

holy crap read that story

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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:25:14pm
Facebook takes down data and thousands of posts, obscuring reach of Russian disinformation

Social media analyst Jonathan Albright got a call from Facebook the day after he published research last week showing that the reach of the Russian disinformation campaign was almost certainly larger than the company had disclosed. While the company had said 10 million people read Russian-bought ads, Albright had data suggesting that the audience was at least double that — and maybe much more — if ordinary free Facebook posts were measured as well.

Never again would he or any other researcher be able to run the kind of analysis he had done just days earlier. “This is public interest data,” Albright said Wednesday, expressing frustration that such a rich trove of information had disappeared — or at least moved somewhere the public can’t see it. “This data allowed us to at least reconstruct some of the pieces of the puzzle. Not everything, but it allowed us to make sense of some of this thing.” Facebook does not dispute it removed the posts, but it offers a different explanation of what happened. The company says it has merely corrected a “bug” that allowed Albright, who is research director of the Tow Center for Digital Journalism at Columbia University, to access information he never should have been able to find in the first place.

washingtonpost.com

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:25:23pm

The Rude Pundit on the recent Hannity-t**** interview does not disappoint:rudepundit.blogspot.com

What finally did it for Trump is what always does the trick. Hannity brought up potential Russian interference in the election, which gave Trump some brief rage wood. That made Trump flashback to his glory day. “This was an excuse that was used by the Democrats. An excuse for losing an election that frankly they should have won, because winning the Electoral College is so easy for Democrats,” Trump whispered, starting to shake a bit as Hannity bore down, sucking like a Hoover set on deep pile. “They start off with three major states. To win the electoral college for a Democrat, it’s almost like a given. That is why people said you cannot get to 270. We got to 306.”

189
Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:26:52pm

re: #173 FormerDirtDart

Man, Kaspersky stock must be in free fall right now.

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JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:34:41pm

re: #187 gocart mozart

The stench is getting stronger.

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TedStriker  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:34:56pm

re: #187 gocart mozart

washingtonpost.com

Complicit as hell.

And, now, they’re trying to hide evidence of that.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:35:22pm

re: #158 EPR-radar

I’m waiting for the giant gold statue of t**** on the white house lawn, on a motorized base so that it always faces the sun. The fact that construction on this has not yet started demonstrates a deplorable lack of imagination among the army of flatterers, toadies, lickspittles, sycophants and cravens that surrounds t**** 24/7.

193
goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:35:50pm

Try to imagine working this hard at being a willfully obtuse and shitty human being.

194
JordanRules  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:38:54pm
195
Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:39:52pm

A factoid to dream on:
Over the last couple weeks, Wife and I have seen a total of 4 Doug Jones signs in our Alabama town of 30,000. Strangely, there have been 0 Roy Moore yardsigns.

196
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:40:04pm

looks like he’ll be rage tweeting tonight

197
Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:41:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:44:00pm
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lawhawk  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:44:40pm
200
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:47:38pm

welp…

201
EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:47:53pm

re: #199 lawhawk

Evil old pieces of shit like t**** are so demanding. Just last night, Hannity blew t**** to multiple orgasms on live TV, but t**** still demands greater fealty from the media.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:48:45pm

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

Paul Ryan needs a swift kick in the ass. I almost said “kick in the testicles”, but he doesn’t have any.

203
PhillyPretzel  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:50:01pm

re: #199 lawhawk

The uncouth one is preparing for Bob Schieffer’s book “Overload.”
amazon.com

204
goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:50:32pm

They just want to hate Puerto Ricans, that’s what it comes down to.

205
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:54:55pm
206
bratwurst  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:55:20pm

Pull this asshole’s security clearance RIGHT FUCKING NOW.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:55:41pm

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

That includes GOP representatives from Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Texas and South Carolina—all on the Hurricane Coast. Can’t tell about others who have no clarifying identifiers.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:56:04pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:56:20pm

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

My RWNJ rep is NOT there.

Wow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:56:41pm

re: #207 Decatur Deb

That includes GOP representatives from Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Texas and South Carolina—all on the Hurricane Coast. Can’t tell about others who have no clarifying identifiers.

Well, my congresscritter Massie is one of them, along with what looks like most of the Freedum/Liberty Caucuses.

211
Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:58:04pm

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, my congresscritter Massie is one of them, along with what looks like most of the Freedum/Liberty Caucuses.

At least you’re not a likely candidate for hurricane relief, unlike our state’s dimwits.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:58:38pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

why does Tucker always hashtag himself in his own tweets?

what a dweeb.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:59:11pm

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

why does Tucker always hasthtag himself in his own tweets?

what a dweeb.

Because he’s self-centered, like the rest of the Faux News crew?

214
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2017 • 5:59:28pm

re: #211 Decatur Deb

At least you’re not a likely candidate for hurricane relief, unlike our state’s dimwits.

we have ice storms, tornadoes and floods, though.

215
Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:00:53pm

re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth

we have ice storms, tornadoes and floods, though.

Yeah—we lived in Georgetown on Good Friday.

216
Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:00:59pm

re: #209 Stanley Sea

My RWNJ rep is NOT there.

Wow.

I just sent him an email of thanks.

Flabbergasted.

217
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:01:11pm

re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth

we have ice storms, tornadoes and floods, though.

Speaking of floods, the wild north country is underwater after steady rain for most of the last two weeks. It’s supposed to be moderate temperatures and dry except for Saturday, so hopefully that will help bring the water levels back down before everything freezes solid.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:01:59pm

re: #216 Stanley Sea

I just sent him an email of thanks.

Flabbergasted.

Thinking…..prob a typo.
Maybe not.

My “area of concern” I selected was science.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:02:59pm

re: #218 Stanley Sea

Thinking…..prob a typo.
Maybe not.

My “area of concern” I selected was science.

No block on the form for “Bad Juju”?

220
EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:04:13pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

The Republican party is the party of rich old men being able to rape and pillage as they please. The only reason they are bitching about Weinstein is because he was caught and is a class traitor (i.e., a (D) donor).

So this hypocrisy is especially irritating, even for Republicans.

221
Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:05:30pm

Fuck, it gets worse.

222
PhillyPretzel  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:07:51pm

re: #221 Stanley Sea

Does he think he is royalty? To have his standard raised when he comes into work?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:10:21pm

re: #221 Stanley Sea

Fuck, it gets worse.

[Embedded content]

Render unto Zinke the things that are Zinke’s.

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meteor  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:10:41pm

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

Paul Ryan eats people.

225
CleverToad  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:10:56pm

re: #40 HappyWarrior

Yeah I think Michelle would be a great choice too. It’s their choice but a lot of women I know are quite unhappy with the decision even those who say they like Sanders. Anyhow, my vibe is I don’t think Sanders will be the nom in 2020 or do as well. I think he’s alienated a lot of people.

I’m sure it has been said already — still catching up on threads, but this really narked me off. Invite him, maybe. Keynote? That’s a slap in the face.

I hope the organizers get a well-deserved earful.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:12:40pm

re: #16 bratwurst

Yet we will STILL hear the narrative that “liberal late night comedians” refuse to touch this story.

Conservatives must be so frustrated that Democrats/Liberals are not supporting Weinstein. They know how they’d be reacting if Weinstein was a Republican donor.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:13:46pm

re: #221 Stanley Sea

Is the motto on the commemorative coins something like “Zinke: Veni, Vidi, Vici”?

Perhaps something like “Zinke: In hoc signo vinces” or “Zinke: Ad majorem dei Gloriam” would better capture Zinke’s spirit of humility and service.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:14:47pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:15:20pm

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, my congresscritter Massie is one of them, along with what looks like most of the Freedum/Liberty Caucuses.

Jim Jordan, a district away from central Ohio of course was a no. And he too is a Freedumb Caucus guy.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2017 • 6:21:01pm

re: #227 EPR-radar

Is the motto on the commemorative coins something like “Zinke: Veni, Vidi, Vici”?

Perhaps something like “Zinke: In hoc signo vinces” or “Zinke: Ad majorem dei Gloriam” would better capture Zinke’s spirit of humility and service.

“Zinke, Zinke Do”

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St. Vincent Performs ‘Los Ageless’ One of Stephen's very favorite singer-songwriters collaborates with three pairs of boots to perform a song off her new album "Masseduction". Subscribe To "The Late Show" Channel HERE: bit.lyFor more content from "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert", click ...
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