Trump’s Deconstruction of the United States Is Accelerating

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Happy Friday! Today Donald Trump took big steps toward killing Obamacare and the Iran nuclear deal, appointed another energy industry-linked climate change denier to lead the White House Council on Environmental Quality, used his daughter-in-law to promote propaganda on his garbage Trump TV Facebook channel, and became the first president to give a speech to the virulent anti-gay religious fanatic hate group, Family Research Council.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 13, 2017 • 11:39:31am

Adam Schiff 1 - Dotard 0

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 13, 2017 • 11:39:47am

Empires fall. We’re alive to see the US go the way of other empires.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 13, 2017 • 11:40:13am
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Kragar  Oct 13, 2017 • 11:40:16am

The America I grew up in is dead. Republicans killed it.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 13, 2017 • 11:41:23am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2017 • 11:42:05am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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We really are going to need an apology tour after this.

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Nyet  Oct 13, 2017 • 11:43:30am

re: #6 HappyWarrior

We really are going to need an apology tour after this.

And lots of trials.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 13, 2017 • 11:43:31am
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blueraven  Oct 13, 2017 • 11:44:44am

We are going to need a bigger boat vote.

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bratwurst  Oct 13, 2017 • 11:45:25am
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Charles Johnson  Oct 13, 2017 • 11:45:46am
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Nyet  Oct 13, 2017 • 11:47:02am

Fuck, Halloween is soon. Orange day.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 13, 2017 • 11:47:44am
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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 13, 2017 • 11:49:29am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

As far as I’m concerned, Trump IS the death panel. This could easily kill far more Americans than ISIL or even the deliberate neglect shown to Puerto Rico’s Americans. Maybe the Page puts it too angrily. I can live with that.
littlegreenfootballs.com

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 13, 2017 • 11:50:05am

I’m wondering when Cuba will offer to assist Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands…

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JordanRules  Oct 13, 2017 • 11:50:28am

Not sure why, but it feels counter intuitive that Silicon Valley is a bad guy during this crisis. There was a good case that it was supposed to remind us of how our diversity and innovation can make the case for continuing to make a more perfect Union.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2017 • 11:50:42am

re: #15 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m wondering when Cuba will offer to assist Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands…

It would be a smart move for them.

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ipsos  Oct 13, 2017 • 11:51:59am

It’s not t****’s daughter reading the fake news.

It’s his dotard-in-law.

Er, daughter-in…. nah, screw it, I like my way better.

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makeitstop  Oct 13, 2017 • 11:55:22am

Slight correction: Lara Trump is his daughter-in-law, married to Uday (or is it Qusay?).

(I know she was called his daughter in the original tweet.)

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Nyet  Oct 13, 2017 • 11:56:43am

Meanwhile, our little Nazi sympathizer (remember how he retweeted Holocaust deniers and/or neo-Nazis?):

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 13, 2017 • 11:56:56am

Meanwhile…not a peep from Republicans about the four soldiers killed in Niger!

I wonder why???????

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 13, 2017 • 11:58:22am

Minor nitpick Charles. Lara Trump is his daughter-in-law, not his daughter.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 13, 2017 • 11:59:14am

re: #2 Joe Bacon 🌹

Empires fall. We’re alive to see the US go the way of other empires.

We aren’t gone yet.

Right now the conservatives, as represented by the GOP, are at the peak of governmental power.

They are sort of like the Rocky Mountain Locust. In 1875, the largest locust swarm in history in North America occurred, 198,000 square miles in size.

Thirty years later, the locust was extinct.

In many social movements (just like species), the peak of power is actually the end.

The lash back from the populace since the election has shown that this is far from over; Republican politicians afraid to see their constituents because of protests only hurts their ability to campaign or get their message out.

Unlike Democrats facing the Astroturf movement of the Tea Party - Democratic politicians continued to meet with constituents. Even the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords did not end Democrats meeting constituents. Democrats or Democratic candidates are now offering to meet neighbouring districts where Republicans are too cowardly to show up.

Since I mentioned locusts, “patience, Grasshopper.”

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makeitstop  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:01:18pm

re: #16 JordanRules

Not sure why, but it feels counter intuitive that Silicon Valley is a bad guy during this crisis. There was a good case that it was supposed to remind us of how our diversity and innovation can make the case for continuing to make a more perfect Union.

Yeah, but look who’s running Twitter and Facebook. A couple of libertarian d-bags.

Here’s a good analysis: Techno-libertarians: a weak link in democracy’s defence against authoritarians.

Guys like Jack, Zuckerberg and Thiel believe they’re above politics, or they aspire to be. But their meddling in politics show what liars they are.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:03:24pm
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JordanRules  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:03:31pm

Bill Murray Reminds Trump ‘Puerto Rico’s in America’ by Performing Songs from ‘West Side Story’

thedailybeast.com

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petesh  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:04:30pm

re: #24 makeitstop

Sadly, a lot of people fail to recognize their own biases and it is particularly ironic that people working in an industry that developed out of a couple of government programs should so frequently adopt a “pull yourself up by your own bootstraps” mentality.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:04:54pm

re: #15 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m wondering when Cuba will offer to assist Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands…

Hell, offer to annex them…

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Nyet  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:05:17pm

I see that Holocaust denial articles are a staple at Unz.

unz.com

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:05:45pm
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Skip Intro  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:07:59pm

re: #30 FormerDirtDart

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Sea Mexican!  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:08:48pm

re: #15 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m wondering when Cuba will offer to assist Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands…

Around 3 weeks ago, more or less, IIRC. More info. (Sorry, couldn’t find an English source.)

Cuba and Puerto Rico has a long history between them. It’s often said that Cuba and Puerto Rico are two wings of a bird.

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gocart mozart  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:09:05pm

re: #19 makeitstop

President Shitstain’s daughter-in-law Lara Trump, Eric’s wife.

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makeitstop  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:10:34pm

re: #33 gocart mozart

President Shitstain’s daughter-in-law Lara Trump, Eric’s wife.

Ah, so it’s Uday (or is it Beavis?). :)

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Nyet  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:10:43pm
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Sea Mexican!  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:10:53pm

re: #28 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Hell, offer to annex them…

That’s going to be a tough sell … for Cuba.

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JordanRules  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:13:39pm

re: #24 makeitstop

Good article, thanks!

Liberal democracies must be able to defend themselves online. Too much of the tech community dismisses, or even mocks, the fundamental political reality confronting the governments that guarantee and protect their rights.

In this way, for all their technological brains, many minds in Silicon Valley remain the weakest link in defending our cherished rights and political values online in the 21st Century.

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Jack Burton  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:14:36pm

Now we have Google helping out the Russian Agitprop Campaign to destroy the west:

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ObserverArt  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:21:53pm

re: #38 Jack Burton

Now we have Google helping out the Russian Agitprop Campaign to destroy the west:

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Google is being looked at too, just like Facebook and Twitter. Mueller, the Congress and others are very aware.

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wrenchwench  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:26:24pm

re: #37 JordanRules

Good article, thanks!

The line at the end could be full of irony.

Follow Chris Zappone on Facebook

But maybe it’s just a link….

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JordanRules  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:30:10pm

re: #39 ObserverArt

Indeed and it’s likely to be a long complicated investigation.

Midterms are only 11 months away. Sucks that something can’t be done about a lot of this more quickly.

So GOTV all the way, but be aware of the cracks in the system that may be getting wider.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:30:20pm

I just found a use for Facebook. I liked the “Draft Michelle 2020” page. It already has 36k likes!

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:32:23pm

re: #41 JordanRules

Indeed and it’s likely to be a long complicated investigation.

Midterms are only 11 months away. Sucks that something can’t be done about a lot of this more quickly.

So GOTV all the way, but be aware of the cracks in the system that may be getting wider.

SCOTUS probably won’t get its gerrymandering decision out soon enough to get Wisconsin’s lines redrawn in time for next year’s midterms. Then there will be the huge battle to get lines redrawn all over the country for 2020.

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EPR-radar  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:32:52pm

re: #24 makeitstop

Yeah, but look who’s running Twitter and Facebook. A couple of libertarian d-bags.

Here’s a good analysis: Techno-libertarians: a weak link in democracy’s defence against authoritarians.

Guys like Jack, Zuckerberg and Thiel believe they’re above politics, or they aspire to be. But their meddling in politics show what liars they are.

Thiel is by no means above politics. He’s just another extreme RWNJ libertarian.

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makeitstop  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:34:18pm

re: #41 JordanRules

Indeed and it’s likely to be a long complicated investigation.

Midterms are only 11 months away. Sucks that something can’t be done about a lot of this more quickly.

So GOTV all the way, but be aware of the cracks in the system that may be getting wider.

When the smaller dominoes start falling (like when those FB ads are made public), a lot of people’s perceptions are going to change, and fast.

Plenty of ad fodder out there, especially since 99% of congressional Repubs are either all in with Trump or are silently letting him go wild.

They oughta realize that those Trump stains are not gonna wash out. But Republicans aren’t known for having a capacity for long-term thinking.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:34:55pm

If journalists cal lose their license for fake news, then Presidents should be able to lose their licenses for announcing fake information and claims.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:36:13pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Small feet, smaller hands, BUT VERY FAT.

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EPR-radar  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:36:24pm

On the subject of the OP, this is what it looks like when these motherfuckers show up for work.

A Republican will take action for only one of two reasons: 1) shoveling more money to the rich and 2) personal reelection, usually by pandering to resentments of bigots.

It naturally follows that just about everything they do is simply evil.

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JordanRules  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:38:46pm

re: #45 makeitstop

We’ve seen some examples of the ads/posts/videos used to target black activists, the military and the general pop. Not sure if there is going to be a needle moving big reveal if we can force FB to show what that particular ad buy produced.

We certainly have a ridiculous amount of ad fodder to mine though.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:43:39pm

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Charles Johnson  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:46:09pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:47:59pm

re: #50 Ace Rothstein

As long as he packs the courts with right wing radicals, Republicans will keep their stooge in office.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:48:22pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

I wonder if the tangerine tyrant even knows what Obama’s long game was when the Iran deal was done. He does know that 2/3 of the Iranian population is under 35, right? Oh fuck it, of course he doesn’t.

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Jack Burton  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:49:12pm

re: #50 Ace Rothstein

“Who am I? Why am I here?” #25thAmendmentNow

Oh Magoo, You’ve Done It Again!

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lawhawk  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:49:49pm
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Sir John Barron  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:50:18pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

Today, I announced our strategy to confront the Iranian regime’s hostile actions and to ensure that they never acquire a nuclear weapon.
— Donald J. Trump

What “strategy” for which “hostile actions”?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:50:29pm

re: #53 Ace Rothstein

I wonder if the tangerine tyrant even knows what Obama’s long game was when the Iran deal was done. He does know that 2/3 of the Iranian population is under 35, right? Oh fuck it, of course he doesn’t.

Trump wants the Christian Radicals to have the Armageddon they’ve been praying for!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:52:24pm

re: #29 Nyet

I see that Holocaust denial articles are a staple at Unz.

unz.com

Unz Review (unz.com) was started by Ron Unz, a libertarian dudebro who ran against Pete Wilson for the CA primary in 1994 (he was trounced by Wilson).

He then sponsored a proposition which was somewhat of a modification of English-only teaching in schools.

He then started the wingnut Holocaust denying site (the site itself bills itself as publishing articles that do not get mainstream media attention).

From Wikipedia, the stellar list of wingnut libertarian Holocaust deniers who write for him:

In November 2013, Unz launched the website The Unz Review, a blogging platform. Notable people blogging at the Unz Review, aside from Unz himself, include Kevin B. MacDonald and Steve Sailer; Ron Paul, Patrick J. Buchanan and Ilana Mercer’s writings are also syndicated on on the site. Unz has outlined the political strategy behind the creation of The Unz Review in an article entitled “American Pravda: Breaching the Media Barrier”.

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Jack Burton  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:52:25pm

re: #56 Sir John Barron

What “strategy” for which “hostile actions”?

Bombing them. Because Islam.

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JordanRules  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:52:43pm

re: #56 Sir John Barron

Questions the WH press corp should but probably will not ask Sarah HuckaSand for $400 Alex!

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sizzzzlerz  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:52:45pm

You know, when it comes to the truth about Iran and the treaty, I’d believe the hardest hardliner in Tehran before anyone in the orange turd’s gang.

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EPR-radar  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:55:08pm

re: #52 Joe Bacon 🌹

As long as he packs the courts with right wing radicals, Republicans will keep their stooge in office.

That isn’t it, because Pence would do the same thing. IMO Republicans know the party is finally fracturing along the fault line of Chamber of Commerce vs. the base, and they want to steal as much as possible before this split actually happens.

The fact that this requires keeping t**** in office, even though he’s a clear and present danger, is irrelevant to Republicans because Republicans are evil.

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ObserverArt  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:55:42pm

re: #50 Ace Rothstein

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Wow. When they are all put together like that you can see “we” have a problem.

And with the stories (fake news coming from the real people in the White House) we have heard this week, he apparently has gotten worse. Add in he seems to be in a rage when not in front of the cameras and we have an unstable situation.

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CongoJack  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:57:47pm

re: #50 Ace Rothstein

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Yet when the first African American President wore a tan suit the entire media and right wing (and even some left wing media personalities) lost their damn mind.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 13, 2017 • 12:59:43pm

I’m trying to be optimistic without being too happy clappy, but Jesus it’s hard. It’s going to take YEARS to clean up this mess, and that’s assuming something is actually done to stop this madness. And this is the big question, what do you do when one political party gains overall control of the government for the sole purpose of destroying it while enriching themselves? What seriously can be done? Every day that passes with these evil clowns in control is just that much more damage. Everyone is depending on Robert Mueller to save the day, and I understand his need for thoroughness and time, but the longer this takes, the more people are literally dying. RIGHT NOW.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:00:16pm

re: #63 ObserverArt

There is no question that his mind has deteriorated since taking office. Look at the multiple instances of him walking off AF1 with the limo five feet in front of him and he just wanders off. This shit is dangerous. He will not make it to the end of next year. (Disclaimer: Last December, I made a bet with my bookie at 15:1 that Trump would be out of office (this is including his death) by April 30, 2018, so obviously I hope it’s before then)

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EPR-radar  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:01:29pm

re: #50 Ace Rothstein

The 25th amendment is a pipe dream. 1) It requires bigger vote margins in congress than impeachment and removal from office, 2) a majority of t****’s cabinet of t**** fart-sniffers would have to go along with it, and 3) the president can interfere with the removal process endlessly by certifying to Congress that he’s fit for office.

That clause of the 25th amendment is for dealing with a president who falls into a coma or the like. t**** is not in a coma. t**** is just grossly unqualified for office. The remedy for a president that is grossly unqualified for office has been there since the founding, and it is impeachment and removal from office by Congress.

I see so much useless nonsense in the media about the 25th amendment that I’m starting to think that it’s part of the ongoing Russian anti-US operations.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:02:10pm

re: #66 Ace Rothstein

There is no question that his mind has deteriorated since taking office. Look at the multiple instances of him walking off AF1 with the limo five feet in front of him and he just wanders off. This shit is dangerous. He will not make it to the end of next year. (Disclaimer: Last December, I made a bet with my bookie at 15:1 that Trump would be out of office (this is including his death) by April 30, 2018, so obviously I hope it’s before then)

I think it’s cool that you have a bookie. And I want you to win your bet.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:02:12pm

re: #64 CongoJack

Yet when the first African American President wore a tan suit the entire media and right wing (and even some left wing media personalities) lost their damn mind.

Yet when the first African American President asked citizens to keep their tires properly inflated to help save fuel the entire media and right wing (and even some left wing media personalities) lost their damn mind.

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JordanRules  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:02:54pm

re: #66 Ace Rothstein

Yes, there has been decline while in office and it’s going to get worse. What’s really jarring for me and what I think paints the picture superbly is watching old video of him from like the 80s compared to now. I did that during the campaign and couldn’t believe how damaged he was.

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CongoJack  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:03:11pm

re: #69 Ace Rothstein

Lordy, I don’t even remember that.

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Jack Burton  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:03:26pm

re: #66 Ace Rothstein

There is no question that his mind has deteriorated since taking office. Look at the multiple instances of him walking off AF1 with the limo five feet in front of him and he just wanders off. This shit is dangerous. He will not make it to the end of next year. (Disclaimer: Last December, I made a bet with my bookie at 15:1 that Trump would be out of office (including his death) by April 30, 2018, so obviously I hope it’s before then)

I’m glad I didn’t bet. I was thinking labor day weekend 2017 at the latest.

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TedStriker  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:05:00pm

re: #68 I Would Prefer Not To

I think it’s cool that you have a bookie. And I want you to win your bet.

Well, he is Ace Rothstein…

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TedStriker  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:07:54pm

re: #69 Ace Rothstein

Yet when the first African American President asked citizens to keep their tires properly inflated to help save fuel the entire media and right wing (and even some left wing media personalities) lost their damn mind.

We’re talking about people who, when Earth Day rolls around, make it a point to burn as much electricity and as much gas as possible, just to spite liberals.

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CongoJack  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:12:27pm

re: #74 TedStriker

Blazing Saddles… You know, morons.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:12:53pm

re: #74 TedStriker

We’re talking about people who, when Earth Day rolls around, make it a point to burn as much electricity and as much gas as possible, just to spite liberals.

I had some dipshit in a large pickup truck parked next to me at a light in Cheyenne a few months ago. Apparently the fellow despises economical cars like Smarts, and hit the old “coal rolling” machine in his truck to bury my wife and me in diesel smoke.

I quickly accelerated away from the jerk.

Hopefully that fellow’s coal-rolling will destroy the engine on his very expensive truck.

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EPR-radar  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:13:05pm

re: #74 TedStriker

We’re talking about people who, when Earth Day rolls around, make it a point to burn as much electricity and as much gas as possible, just to spite liberals.

See also the utterly stupid “rolling coal” nonsense. Anyone who engages in that really ought to be given emphysema on the spot and obliged to live the rest of their miserable lives gasping for air from an oxygen bottle.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:16:47pm

Juanita Jean with a tongue-in-cheek observation about Trump’s Virgin Islands remark.

Y’all, we are in big trouble now.

Trump said he met with the president of the Virgin Islands.

Trump is the president of the Virgin Islands. That can only mean one thing — he cloned himself.

And if he did it once, he can do it again. Over and over and over. Then he can become president of every state. And then Hawaii. And Iran.

This is not good.

juanitajean.com

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CongoJack  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:16:50pm

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹

re: #77 EPR-radar

See them all over the county I live in (big in fracking here). Every time I see one of these a-holes you will also notice a gun sticker, trump sticker, and an oil field sticker (one that shows an oil rig and dollar signs coming off it).

I cant wait til the shale oil dries up around here. Afterwards the redneck population will drop like a rock as they go back to TX, OK, and ND.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:19:17pm

fortune.com

North Korea may have damaged its nuclear test site where it can no longer use it.

A series of tremors and landslides near North Korea’s nuclear test base likely mean the country’s sixth and largest blast has destabilized the region, and the Punggye-ri nuclear site may not be used for much longer to test nuclear weapons, experts say.

A small quake was detected early on Friday near the North’s nuclear test site, South Korea’s weather agency said, but unlike quakes associated with nuclear tests, it did not appear to be manmade. The tremor was the latest in a string of at least three shocks to be observed since Pyongyang’s Sept. 3 nuclear test, which caused a 6.3 magnitude earthquake.

Friday’s quake was a magnitude 2.7 with a depth of 3 km in North Hamgyong Province in North Korea, the Korea Meteorological Administration said. The United States Geological Survey (USGS) measured the quake at 2.9 magnitude at a depth of 5 km.

(more at Fortune)

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Belafon  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:21:15pm

re: #78 Anymouse 🌹

I was imagining that Kelly set up a mirror, and had Trump walk to it, kind of like the way dogs see themselves in the mirror. At first, Trump liked the man he met, but the man kept complimenting himself at the same time Trump was, and kept making the same big boasts, and that’s when Trump got angry and stormed off.

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freetoken  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:27:35pm

I try to remind myself that in the past few centuries this land has been through many upheavals, lots of wars and death, conflicts of all sorts (ideological, hot-wars, economic collapses, etc.)

Trump is by far the worst President of any that I can remember from reading about the past or have experienced in my life.

But remember, America has a long history of weird and frankly nutty things.

Joseph Smith and his fabled golden tablets - people bought (and some still do) into that idea.

Hoaxes of all sorts.

And remember than many of the laws we have to protect people only came about after decades of large companies controlling so much wealth that it took a large backlash of popular angst to force American politicians (who otherwise were in the pockets of the barons) into action.

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Jack Burton  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:28:14pm

re: #74 TedStriker

We’re talking about people who, when Earth Day rolls around, make it a point to burn as much electricity and as much gas as possible, just to spite liberals.

I tend to think most of them are just making it a point to run their mouths. Back when I was way less enlightened on the subject, I used to say that shit too but never did it.

Even now, I’m not a fan of “Earth Hour” or whatever the fuck it’s called, because it’s just another “feel good/do nothing” thing that only inconveniences those least responsible for the problem.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:29:23pm

LOL, gun store right outside of Fort Worth is closing down:

In Sept. 29 post, the company tried to dispel rumors that it was closing but admitted it had bet on a Hillary Clinton presidency fueling gun sales.

“Like many other gun stores, we had overbought a lot of guns in anticipation of a Hillary presidency that never came,” the company said.

star-telegram.com

I’ll take any silver lining I can get…

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ObserverArt  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:30:01pm

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹

I had some dipshit in a large pickup truck parked next to me at a light in Cheyenne a few months ago. Apparently the fellow despises economical cars like Smarts, and hit the old “coal rolling” machine in his truck to bury my wife and me in diesel smoke.

I quickly accelerated away from the jerk.

Hopefully that fellow’s coal-rolling will destroy the engine on his very expensive truck.

I think there is either a setting they can hit, or a gizmo that can be added to the engine management system that allows those idiots to roll the black smoke.

I love cars and vehicles, but that is about the dumbest shit ever. Well, other than an full aero kit for a clapped out Honda Civic that has a hard time getting to 35 mph.

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Jack Burton  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:31:01pm

re: #82 freetoken

Trump is by far the worst President of any that I can remember from reading about the past or have experienced in my life.

As long as we don’t end up in a civil war, there are a handful including Buchanan that are at least equal if not worse than him. If a civil war or anything worse happens, the Razzie goes to Clownstick.

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Belafon  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:31:52pm

re: #83 Jack Burton

Here’s one small benefit of Earth Day here in my area: The city collects chemicals (paints, and other things that shouldn’t be pored down a drain) from people and handles them properly. And the line is huge every year. It definitely reduces the amount of waste disposed of improperly, and gives people a fixed date to do it.

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CongoJack  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:34:21pm

re: #82 freetoken

I try to remind myself that in the past few centuries this land has been through many upheavals, lots of wars and death, conflicts of all sorts (ideological, hot-wars, economic collapses, etc.)

Trump is by far the worst President of any that I can remember from reading about the past or have experienced in my life.

But remember, America has a long history of weird and frankly nutty things.

Joseph Smith and his fabled golden tablets - people bought (and some still do) into that idea.

Hoaxes of all sorts.

And remember than many of the laws we have to protect people only came about after decades of large companies controlling so much wealth that it took a large backlash of popular angst to force American politicians (who otherwise were in the pockets of the barons) into action.

The list you give of past Americans being gullible do not make me feel better about the current crop of morons we have running around.

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Belafon  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:35:56pm

re: #88 CongoJack

You don’t have to feel better about the current morons. It’s about America surviving them.

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wrenchwench  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:36:35pm

Here’s something I could do with a bunch of old bike parts.

I miss twitter more than I miss FB. I’m returning to LOL cats, which has changed a lot.

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Jack Burton  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:36:40pm

re: #87 Belafon

Here’s one small benefit of Earth Day here in my area: The city collects chemicals (paints, and other things that shouldn’t be pored down a drain) from people and handles them properly. And the line is huge every year. It definitely reduces the amount of waste disposed of improperly, and gives people a fixed date to do it.

I’m all for that and wish that things like it would be expanded.* It’s the turn off all the power and sit in the dark for an hour at night “event” that they can blow out their ass.

*Have you ever tried to get rid of old batteries, especially larger sized ones like car batteries, the “correct” way? JHC, no wonder people just dump shit.

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EPR-radar  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:38:02pm

re: #86 Jack Burton

As long as we don’t end up in a civil war, there are a handful including Buchanan that are at least equal if not worse than him. If a civil war or anything worse happens, the Razzie goes to Clownstick.

Buchanan stumbled and bumbled his way through his presidency hoping the Dred Scott decision (!) would solve all those vexing issues troubling the nation. But the civil war certainly can’t be blamed on Buchanan.

So IMO t**** is already the worst ever. No previous president has been so personally corrupt. No previous president was so shallow that every official act that was not personally financially lucrative was plainly motivated by spite toward his predecessor in office. Etc. etc.

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ObserverArt  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:38:35pm

re: #87 Belafon

Here’s one small benefit of Earth Day here in my area: The city collects chemicals (paints, and other things that shouldn’t be pored down a drain) from people and handles them properly. And the line is huge every year. It definitely reduces the amount of waste disposed of improperly, and gives people a fixed date to do it.

We now have several companies in the Columbus area that you can recycle and rid yourself of just about anything. One of the places takes chemicals 3 weekdays and on Saturday.

My favorite is a place that will recycle just about anything mechanical and electrical. The only thing they won’t take is stuff with freon or other gases like it…meaning refrigerators or air conditioners. They take old TV’s but charge $5 for any with a picture tube. All else gets broken down and recycled…for free.

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ObserverArt  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:40:48pm

re: #91 Jack Burton

I’m all for that and wish that things like it would be expanded.* It’s the turn off all the power and sit in the dark for an hour at night “event” that they can blow out their ass.

*Have you ever tried to get rid of old batteries, especially larger sized ones like car batteries, the “correct” way? JHC, no wonder people just dump shit.

Do you have any Batteries Plus stores in your area? They recycle old car batteries and I think other types of batteries.

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Belafon  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:41:18pm

re: #91 Jack Burton

I’m all for that and wish that things like it would be expanded.* It’s the turn off all the power and sit in the dark for an hour at night “event” that they can blow out their ass.

*Have you ever tried to get rid of old batteries, especially larger sized ones like car batteries, the “correct” way? JHC, no wonder people just dump shit.

All the auto places around me, including the Walmart service departments, will take car batteries from you. Best buy has a drop box in their entrance for smaller batteries, just wrap them in individual bags so they can’t connect. Not that I’m pure in that department.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:41:58pm

re: #90 wrenchwench

Here’s something I could do with a bunch of old bike parts.

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I miss twitter more than I miss FB. I’m returning to LOL cats, which has changed a lot.

HA! I’m also visiting sites I haven’t seen in awhile.

It’s actually pretty intense, my twitter addiction.

I sincerely hope it shows that we are not there……

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CongoJack  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:42:19pm

re: #95 Belafon

Best Buy will also recycle your plastic bags from shopping as well (which I like).

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wrenchwench  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:44:05pm

‘There, I fixed it’ is made for bike mechanics!

I’m going to need one of those easy-linky setups for it.

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JordanRules  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:44:17pm

re: #96 Stanley Sea

Ha, ha! Same, same, same!

If nothing else, it is eye opening for me. I hope Rose McGowen and others feel the love though.

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MsJ  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:44:37pm

Let’s see if this works. I’m off Twitter today and saw this on Facebook. I need some humor today before I want to go kill something.

facebook.com

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Sir John Barron  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:45:15pm

re: #92 EPR-radar

Buchanan stumbled and bumbled his way through his presidency hoping the Dred Scott decision (!) would solve all those vexing issues troubling the nation. But the civl war certainly can’t be blamed on Buchanan.

“The Compromise of 1850 will put the problem of slavery behind us forever.”

“The Kansas Nebraska Act will put the problem of slavery behind us forever.”

“The Dred Scott decision will put the problem of slavery….”

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Belafon  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:45:16pm

Gawd forbid if I ever have to boycott this site.

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wrenchwench  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:47:34pm

re: #102 Belafon

Gawd forbid if I ever have to boycott this site.

This site is the only reason I don’t trash the whole internet. Except when I was doing my taxes yesterday… that involved many clicks at IRS dot gov.

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JordanRules  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:47:51pm

You Can Now Take a Virtual Hike Around Canada’s Polar Desert

Quttinirpaaq National Park just became the northernmost spot on Google Streetview.

atlasobscura.com

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Stanley Sea  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:48:21pm

re: #102 Belafon

Gawd forbid if I ever have to boycott this site.

Back in the day there was a period where Charles had to get a new server.

Problems with the site every day for a week or so. We would be down for so long, I still remember the pain.

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TedStriker  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:55:17pm

re: #91 Jack Burton

I’m all for that and wish that things like it would be expanded.* It’s the turn off all the power and sit in the dark for an hour at night “event” that they can blow out their ass.

*Have you ever tried to get rid of old batteries, especially larger sized ones like car batteries, the “correct” way? JHC, no wonder people just dump shit.

For large lead-acid batteries (car/truck/ATV/garden), AutoZone and Advance Auto accepts them, even if you’re not buying another one from them; IIRC, both of them even give you store credit ($5-10) for them to spend however, if it’s not being turned in for a core charge refund on another battery.

For NiCd and lithium batteries, such as for phones, tools, etc., Home Depot accepts those, in addition to fluorescent bulbs; the one by my house has a collection box right inside the front door.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:56:39pm

re: #84 b.d. (bill d.)

LOL, gun store right outside of Fort Worth is closing down:

star-telegram.com

I’ll take any silver lining I can get…

The store owner was too stupid to incorporate and file for bankruptcy????????

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JordanRules  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:57:14pm

Democrats Are Launching A Legal Fight To Save Obamacare’s Subsidy Payments
State attorneys general from California, Connecticut, Kentucky, and Massachusetts announced a new lawsuit on Friday.

buzzfeed.com

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Sir John Barron  Oct 13, 2017 • 1:57:17pm

My cable TV is running a Friday the 13th movie marathon, but starting with the most recent to the original. A little odd to do it that way, but it probably has the effect of going from the worst to the best of the franchise, if such a thing exists. On “IV” now, The Final Chapter, which is pretty cheesy. Might have gone to see this in the theatre back in the day.

There are other horror franchises I like better, like Halloween every other one.

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TedStriker  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:00:05pm

re: #108 JordanRules

Democrats Are Launching A Legal Fight To Save Obamacare’s Subsidy Payments
State attorneys general from California, Connecticut, Kentucky, and Massachusetts announced a new lawsuit on Friday.

buzzfeed.com

One of these is not like the others…

I wonder how long it will be before Bevin and/or the KY legislature tries to make Beshear drop KY out of this.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:00:17pm

I just reported CCJ latest Facebook post. It’s about Hillary/Rape. Once again he proves that he is garbage.

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wrenchwench  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:01:52pm

This one is so presidential.

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makeitstop  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:10:16pm

Happy Friday from Bean (AKA Mr. Awesome) and his shadow.

Why, yes. I am pretty awesome.
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JordanRules  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:11:36pm

re: #110 TedStriker

Right, that addition was noteworthy. Would be really interesting if Bevin doesn’t push back.

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ObserverArt  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:14:35pm

Nancy slaps Trump upside his big ol’ Pumpkin Head.

Rep. Pelosi Slams Trump’s Iran Move

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makeitstop  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:17:54pm

re: #113 makeitstop

Happy Friday from Bean (AKA Mr. Awesome) and his shadow.

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And then some wag on Facebook came back with this - ‘How the cat sees it.’

I iz LION!

Seems about right.

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ObserverArt  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:18:01pm

re: #113 makeitstop

Happy Friday from Bean (AKA Mr. Awesome) and his shadow.

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He’s quite handsome. Nice vest.

I’m thinking he has a good disposition too. He looks chilled.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:21:44pm

re: #2 Joe Bacon 🌹

Empires fall. We’re alive to see the US go the way of other empires.

Republics don’t last that long, they either fall or morph into something else.

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makeitstop  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:22:10pm

re: #117 ObserverArt

He’s quite handsome. Nice vest.

I’m thinking he has a good disposition too. He looks chilled.

Happiest Cat in the World. It’s coming up on a year since he and his sister came to (let us) live here.

Bonus - I taught him to sit and high five for treats! Gonna teach him to bark next. :)

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wrenchwench  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:22:12pm

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Belafon  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:22:28pm

re: #116 makeitstop

I wonder if cats would rather be lions or tigers.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:23:18pm

re: #35 Nyet

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I see NC wingnut lunatic representative Virginia Foxx is there….days of North Carolina not being a national embarrassment: 0

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freetoken  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:24:48pm

re: #120 wrenchwench

Neat.

But if I may make a design change, it would be at the bottom of the contraption, so that the hose never levels off.

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Jack Burton  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:25:19pm

re: #106 TedStriker

For large lead-acid batteries (car/truck/ATV/garden), AutoZone and Advance Auto accepts them, even if you’re not buying another one from them; IIRC, both of them even give you store credit ($5-10) for them to spend however, if it’s not being turned in for a core charge refund on another battery.

For NiCd and lithium batteries, such as for phones, tools, etc., Home Depot accepts those, in addition to fluorescent bulbs; the one by my house has a collection box right inside the front door.

Every single time I’ve needed to dispose of batteries, I’ve gotten a run around from all of the above. “Don’t have room”, “Can’t take those at this location”, “Manager is out and I don’t know how to it”, etc, etc. Auto parts stores seem to always ‘conveniently’ have their waste oil storage full as well. Eventually I do get it taken care of. But I look forward to going to the dentist over having to get rid of anything that you can’t just throw in the blue bin.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:25:21pm

re: #2 Joe Bacon 🌹

Empires fall. We’re alive to see the US go the way of other empires.

At this point, I have very little doubt Trump is going to start a blood bath of a war on the basis that “Over there” is filled with people who dont’t count as real people and the rest of the world is going to demand we make serious changes in how our government works.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:25:51pm

re: #122 Scottish Dragon

I see NC wingnut lunatic representative Virginia Foxx is there….days of North Carolina not being a national embarrassment: 0

All the values loonies there to sing the moral value praises of….DrumpF. After all the conservative ‘values’ and ‘character’ hand-wringing during Bill Clinton’s campaigns and terms.

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Renaissance_Man  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:26:34pm

re: #103 wrenchwench

This site is the only reason I don’t trash the whole internet. Except when I was doing my taxes yesterday… that involved many clicks at IRS dot gov.

Since I do not use Facebook or Twitter, nor do I look at CNN, the NYT or other state-run media, if it weren’t for here, I would have no real way to have insights into the daily events of the US. Foreign media is at least truthful, but does not capture the true horror of the American state of affairs.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:26:45pm

Sorry I have been away so much. I have been lurking at times, but I have been staying away from a lot of conversation to keep my blood pressure down. I was actually in dangerous territory last spring.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:26:57pm

re: #44 EPR-radar

Thiel is by no means above politics. He’s just another extreme RWNJ libertarian.

“The great task for libertarians is to find an escape from politics in all its forms […]”.

These people are educated adults?

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:28:14pm

re: #129 Birth Control Works

These people are educated adults?

Does The Fountainhead count as an education?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:28:49pm

re: #130 Scottish Dragon

Does The Fountainhead count as an education?

No.

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wrenchwench  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:29:51pm

re: #123 freetoken

Neat.

But if I may make a design change, it would be at the bottom of the contraption, so that the hose never levels off.

…then put a real bird on it.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:30:37pm

re: #81 Belafon

I was imagining that Kelly set up a mirror, and had Trump walk to it, kind of like the way dogs see themselves in the mirror. At first, Trump liked the man he met, but the man kept complimenting himself at the same time Trump was, and kept making the same big boasts, and that’s when Trump got angry and stormed off.

perfect SNL skit!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:31:23pm

huffingtonpost.com

This is the anti-gay pamphlet handed out at the (cat-grabbing) Values Voters Summit, along with other photos of conservative Christian brainwashing swag.

It is called “The Health Hazards of Homosexuality.”

It was written by the wingnut anti-equality group Mass Resistance.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:31:42pm

re: #86 Jack Burton

As long as we don’t end up in a civil war, there are a handful including Buchanan that are at least equal if not worse than him. If a civil war or anything worse happens, the Razzie goes to Clownstick.

I think we are already in a civil war —cold war perhaps.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:34:51pm

re: #134 Anymouse 🌹

It is called “The Health Hazards of Homosexuality.”

Glad they’re keeping the 1980’s material fresh at hand.

/

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Targetpractice  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:35:28pm

re: #136 Sir John Barron

Glad they’re keeping the 1980’s material fresh at hand.

/

Who knew the GOP were so into recycling?

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bratwurst  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:37:44pm

Cut. This. Shit. Out. Already.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:38:08pm

re: #134 Anymouse 🌹

huffingtonpost.com

This is the anti-gay pamphlet handed out at the (cat-grabbing) Values Voters Summit, along with other photos of conservative Christian brainwashing swag.

It is called “The Health Hazards of Homosexuality.”

It was written by the wingnut anti-equality group Mass Resistance.

I’ll be the best friend the gays will ever have in the WH.

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William Lewis  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:39:12pm

Friday night.

Walleye fish fry with French fries and clam chowder. A nice cup of Americano coffee.

There are worse ways to spend a bit of time.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:39:14pm

re: #109 Sir John Barron

My cable TV is running a Friday the 13th movie marathon, but starting with the most recent to the original. A little odd to do it that way, but it probably has the effect of going from the worst to the best of the franchise, if such a thing exists. On “IV” now, The Final Chapter, which is pretty cheesy. Might have gone to see this in the theatre back in the day.

There are other horror franchises I like better, like Halloween every other one.

The courts are being hit with a lot during this administration. Curious to see the fall-out 5-10 years down the road.

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EPR-radar  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:40:01pm

re: #129 Birth Control Works

These people are educated adults?

Libertarians are just greedy and stupid.

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makeitstop  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:40:02pm

re: #121 Belafon

I wonder if cats would rather be lions or tigers.

Mine would be happy with ‘big enough to kick the dog’s ass.’

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Birth Control Works  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:40:03pm

re: #116 makeitstop

And then some wag on Facebook came back with this - ‘How the cat sees it.’

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Seems about right.

purrfect!

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Sir John Barron  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:40:39pm

re: #134 Anymouse 🌹

huffingtonpost.com

This is the anti-gay pamphlet handed out at the (cat-grabbing) Values Voters Summit, along with other photos of conservative Christian brainwashing swag.

It is called “The Health Hazards of Homosexuality.”

It was written by the wingnut anti-equality group Mass Resistance.

Media probably: Ivanka and Jared tried to get Trump to back out of VV Summit, say they didn’t approve of trip or anti-gay speakers, etc.

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Belafon  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:40:58pm

re: #139 bratwurst

Cut. This. Shit. Out. Already.

You mean the fact that people have been banned from twitter for calling him out, that Democrats have disowned him, and that actors are using him as a springboard to go after the systemic problem in Hollywood? That ignoring?

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Birth Control Works  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:41:01pm

re: #119 makeitstop

Happiest Cat in the World. It’s coming up on a year since he and his sister came to (let us) live here.

Bonus - I taught him to sit and high five for treats! Gonna teach him to bark next. :)

I want a kitty. Kid says that when he graduates and moves home he is getting a cat. I told him that the vet bills and litter box would be his domain.

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William Lewis  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:41:36pm

re: #125 Scottish Dragon

At this point, I have very little doubt Trump is going to start a blood bath of a war on the basis that “Over there” is filled with people who dont’t count as real people and the rest of the world is going to demand we make serious changes in how our government works.

I have begun wondering how the 2nd US Republic will differ from the one that diedlast November.

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ObserverArt  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:41:42pm

re: #141 William Lewis

Friday night.

Walleye fish fry with French fries and clam chowder. A nice cup of Americano coffee.

There are worse ways to spend a bit of time.

Mmmmmm. Walleye.

It’s my #2 fresh water selection. A nice big plate of fried Yellow Perch is #1. It’s almost a tie. Sadly, it is hard to find Yellow Perch if you don’t catch them yourself.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:41:50pm

re: #121 Belafon

I wonder if cats would rather be lions or tigers.

Tigers for sure. Lions are pack animals. Most cats are not.

I quick test would be to see if your cat tolerates water. If the answer is yes—he is really a tiger.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:42:42pm

re: #147 Belafon

You mean the fact that people have been banned from twitter for calling him out, that Democrats have disowned him, and that actors are using him as a springboard to go after the systemic problem in Hollywood? That ignoring?

Exactly. They must return all the donations to, *scratches head*, somebody or charity and burn all the movies he ever made and repent of their association.

/

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wrenchwench  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:43:19pm

re: #128 Scottish Dragon

Sorry I have been away so much. I have been lurking at times, but I have been staying away from a lot of conversation to keep my blood pressure down. I was actually in dangerous territory last spring.

{{{Dragon}}}

No need to apologize for taking care of yourself. Just because mine went up from worrying about you…nothing to be concerned about. ///

/delayed by my frequently quitting connection

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Belafon  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:43:43pm

re: #144 makeitstop

Mine would be happy with ‘big enough to kick the dog’s ass.’

We had a tomcat when I was a kid whose only true enemy was a possum. He came home torn up one day. We kept him in for a couple of weeks until he healed, and then he came back a few days later torn up again. After that recovery, he never came home hurt again. Not sure what happened to the possum.

He wasn’t a house cat even though we got him from the pound. He came home twice a day when he was hungry, and occasionally spent the night. When we moved, we left him with the new owners (it was a condition of selling) because he wouldn’t have moved.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:44:21pm

re: #137 Birth Control Works

Good academic paper here on Zealandia geology.

geosociety.org

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bratwurst  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:44:27pm

Maverick alert!

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William Lewis  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:44:31pm

re: #150 ObserverArt

Mmmmmm. Walleye.

It’s my #2 fresh water selection. A nice big plate of fried Yellow Perch is #1. It’s almost a tie. Sadly, it is hard to find Yellow Perch if you don’t catch them yourself.

For me it’s #2 to Bluegill. Fresh from the bay and straight into the frying pan… Yum!

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Targetpractice  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:44:56pm

re: #139 bratwurst

Cut. This. Shit. Out. Already.

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I’m getting sick and fucking tired of this “You must be equally appalled,” particularly from the crowd that declared Trump’s pussy-grabbing a “distraction.”

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Targetpractice  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:46:16pm

re: #156 bratwurst

Maverick alert!

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Thanks, John, for reminding so many of us why considering you a “hero” after your votes on the ACA this year was foolish in the extreme.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:46:59pm

re: #155 Scottish Dragon

Good academic paper here on Zealandia geology.

geosociety.org

I wonder who has jurisdiction over the land? If technology someday allows, it could be built on —cities on stilts.

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wrenchwench  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:47:21pm

re: #157 William Lewis

For me it’s #2 to Bluegill. Fresh from the bay and straight into the frying pan… Yum!

I caught bluegills in Pembine when I was a kid. Ate ‘em, too. Learned how to clean ‘em, too (before the ‘eating’ part.)

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EPR-radar  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:47:34pm

re: #158 Targetpractice

I’m getting sick and fucking tired of this “You must be equally appalled,” particularly from the crowd that declared Trump’s pussy-grabbing a “distraction.”

Especially since Republicans basically approve of rape when it’s rich old white Republican-voting men that do it. Weinstein is a (R) target only because he’s a class traitor.

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ObserverArt  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:49:06pm

re: #157 William Lewis

For me it’s #2 to Bluegill. Fresh from the bay and straight into the frying pan… Yum!

Love Bluegill too. #3. Used to catch hand size ‘gills at a local lake. They are fun too on 1 lb. test line and a small spinning reel, light graphite pole.

You probably have more access to Walleye and Perch up in Wisconsin. Last time I was up there at a race at Elkhart Lake, we stayed in Oshkosh. Found a little mom & pop restaurant that just happened to be having an all you can eat Walleye special. We turned gluttonous.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:49:07pm

re: #160 Birth Control Works

I wonder who has jurisdiction over the land? If technology someday allows, it could be built on —cities on stilts.

Falls under the same insane jumble of laws as the rest of seafloor territory does. Look up China and the South China Sea “cow tongue”

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makeitstop  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:49:34pm

re: #154 Belafon

We had a tomcat when I was a kid whose only true enemy was a possum. He came home torn up one day. We kept him in for a couple of weeks until he healed, and then he came back a few days later torn up again. After that recovery, he never came home hurt again. Not sure what happened to the possum.

He wasn’t a house cat even though we got him from the pound. He came home twice a day when he was hungry, and occasionally spent the night. When we moved, we left him with the new owners (it was a condition of selling) because he wouldn’t have moved.

Our cats are strictly indoor cats. This is a rough neighborhood for pets, lots of possums and raccoons about. Our neighbors had a cat they let out, and the poor thing came home missing an ear one morning.

Scout the dog has already taken out a squirrel and a possum, much to my (and my wife’s) dismay. We had a tree removed a couple of weeks back, and I think we displaced a family of raccoons - my wife (and the dog) saw 5 or 6 of them climbing a tree in our front yard.

I’ve been taking Scout out on the lead and doing a flashlight sweep of the yard before taking him out. The last thing I need is The Great Hunter trying to mix it up with multiple raccoons. That could be bad.

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Targetpractice  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:49:45pm

re: #162 EPR-radar

Especially since Republicans basically approve of rape when it’s rich old white Republican-voting men that do it. Weinstein is a (R) target only because he’s a class traitor.

Weinstein’s a target of opportunity. He has public connections to Democrats, hence he’s fair game. That he’s a major celeb with connections to prominent Republicans (*couTrumpsgh*) is being totally glossed over because he’s the shortest distance between wingnut “outrage” and Hillary Clinton.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:51:21pm

re: #156 bratwurst

Maverick alert!

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wait, don’t people think the same thing about Hillary?

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Birth Control Works  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:52:41pm

re: #164 Scottish Dragon

Falls under the same insane jumble of laws as the rest of seafloor territory does. Look up China and the South China Sea “cow tongue”

No, I don’t think I could absorb it right now. Besides, if it becomes feasable to make money, the laws will fly out the window as the players form their battle plans.

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jeffreyw  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:53:22pm

re: #157 William Lewis

For me it’s #2 to Bluegill. Fresh from the bay and straight into the frying pan… Yum!

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Mmm… bluegill

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Mike Lamb  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:53:34pm

re: #158 Targetpractice

I’m getting sick and fucking tired of this “You must be equally appalled,” particularly from the crowd that declared Trump’s pussy-grabbing a “distraction.”

Weinstein was fired. Trump was promoted.

And for the most part, liberals have been equally appalled.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:56:39pm

re: #111 I Would Prefer Not To

I just reported CCJ latest Facebook post. It’s about Hillary/Rape. Once again he proves that he is garbage.

Wow, that one is WAY over the line. Reported it too. Everyone on Facebook should. This guy needs to be thrown out.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:57:52pm
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plansbandc  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:58:06pm

re: #150 ObserverArt

I’ve never liked freshwater fish. Do you think yellow perch would convert me?

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Targetpractice  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:58:08pm

re: #171 Birth Control Works

Trump picks CEO with no science background to oversee National Weather Service

Remember the days when we were told that Hillary would pack her administration full of cronies, people with hefty stock portfolios and little else? That a Trump administration would bring in “the best people,” people with the training or experience to excel at their jobs?

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EPR-radar  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:58:44pm

re: #171 Birth Control Works

Trump picks CEO with no science background to oversee National Weather Service

The corruption never ends with this den of thieves.

The nomination is controversial because Myers, a businessman and lawyer who runs the weather service AccuWeather, has previously lobbied in favor of measures to restrict the information that the NWS is permitted to release to the public in order to give private companies like his a leg up in promoting their own products. According to the Washington Post, the nomination also breaks with decades of precedent for nominating someone with a science background to fill the NOAA administrator role.

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Cheechako  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:59:01pm

Anyone thinking about moving up to the Last Frontier? Here’s an opportunity:

You can win an Interior Alaska hobby farm with an essay and $1,000

For Anymouse - Fairbanks has both Army and Air Force Bases for medical care.

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JordanRules  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:59:27pm

re: #176 Targetpractice

And there were so many great folks in there, many positions wouldn’t even have needed any change.

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ObserverArt  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:59:34pm

re: #169 jeffreyw

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Mmm… bluegill

The only thing I would change in that photo is no stringer.

Put them on ice right outta the water in an old cooler. Makes all the difference in freshness and ultimately taste.

I learned freshwater fish start to not be fresh soon after not moving about in the water. Real bad on a hot summer day and they are near the surface.

People often don’t like fish that taste “fishy” to them. That is eliminated by icing them right off. Keep ‘em on ice until scaled and filleted and they stay nice and sweet.

Outside of that, good looking catch and dinner there.

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EPR-radar  Oct 13, 2017 • 2:59:50pm

re: #176 Targetpractice

Remember the days when we were told that Hillary would pack her administration full of cronies, people with hefty stock portfolios and little else? That a Trump administration would bring in “the best people,” people with the training or experience to excel at their jobs?

Did they even bother to tell that lie? I suppose they must have, to support the ‘crooked Hillary’ narrative.

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Targetpractice  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:00:01pm

re: #174 Charles Johnson

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This is such a naked effort to start a war as a political distraction that it makes “wag the dog” seem inadequate a descriptor.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:01:19pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:01:37pm

re: #181 EPR-radar

Did they even bother to tell that lie? I suppose they must have, to support the ‘crooked Hillary’ narrative.

It was a popular talking point among the brogressives that Hillary was so corrupt that she’d just fill her administration with bankers and her rich friends. We were supposed to believe that Trump would be “better” by comparison.

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austin_blue  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:02:35pm

re: #175 plansbandc

I’ve never liked freshwater fish. Do you think yellow perch would convert me?

Lake Superior Lake Trout would do it if you like salmon.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:03:13pm

Kudos for Clariol

Interview with Tracey Norman

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EPR-radar  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:04:38pm

re: #184 Targetpractice

It was a popular talking point among the brogressives that Hillary was so corrupt that she’d just fill her administration with bankers and her rich friends. We were supposed to believe that Trump would be “better” by comparison.

I see. Not exactly a openly-stated Republican talking point. God the brogressives were stupid (and/or Republican/Russian ratfuckers).

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:06:30pm

re: #165 makeitstop

I’ve been taking Scout out on the lead and doing a flashlight sweep of the yard before taking him out. The last thing I need is The Great Hunter trying to mix it up with multiple raccoons. That could be bad.

Good idea. A friend at work had a raccoon in the yard that tried to go after her dog. She ended up fighting the raccoon. She had to get a bunch of shots with I think the CDC tracking her to make sure she got them all.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:07:47pm

dogs want dinner.

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ObserverArt  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:09:10pm

re: #175 plansbandc

I’ve never liked freshwater fish. Do you think yellow perch would convert me?

Yes. And read my #180. I’m thinking you may be a person that doesn’t like freshwater fish because of how they were handled when caught. That is usually the case.

It is different than saltwater fish, though I imagine icing them is better too.

I used to fish a lot for panfish like Bluegills and Crappie. My buddy, since passed, and I could go out in an evening and catch 30 or more in a couple hours. We had it down to a science. All it took was some study of fish and how they react to temperature of the water.

I still have my 14’ Meyers fishing boat, 2 hp Honda 4-stroke motor and a little Cox trailer. Just haven’t used it in some time, got too busy with other things like work and rehabbing my house. it was great, whole rig may weigh 120 lbs. I could tow it behind my VWs easily, almost like it wasn’t back there. You could pick up the boat and motor attached and carry it down to the lake edge. We could go anywhere with it.

We used to fish, smoke a doob and sit there and talk politics, the world and philosophy. We were younger and didn’t give a shit then. Now there is not enough time.

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TedStriker  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:09:14pm

re: #187 EPR-radar

I see. Not exactly a openly-stated Republican talking point. God the brogressives were stupid (and/or Republican/Russian ratfuckers).

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William Lewis  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:09:52pm

re: #175 plansbandc

I’ve never liked freshwater fish. Do you think yellow perch would convert me?

What kind do you like?

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ObserverArt  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:13:45pm

re: #188 Jebediah, RBG

Good idea. A friend at work had a raccoon in the yard that tried to go after her dog. She ended up fighting the raccoon. She had to get a bunch of shots with I think the CDC tracking her to make sure she got them all.

That happened to a former client of mine. He saw a coon in his big old trash bin. Thought the little critter needed some help getting out as he couldn’t figure out how he got in. So, he took a tree limb and when he put it in, the little criminal ran up the limb, bit him and took off. It was so fast the guy didn’t know what happened.

Rabies shots were in order. Painful rabies shots. They are automatic for racoon bites, no stopping them if the docs find out what happened.

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calochortus  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:16:23pm

re: #128 Scottish Dragon

Sorry I have been away so much. I have been lurking at times, but I have been staying away from a lot of conversation to keep my blood pressure down. I was actually in dangerous territory last spring.

I’m happy to see you back-I was starting to worry a bit.

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plansbandc  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:16:57pm

re: #192 William Lewis

Tuna, Shark, Halibut. Basically most saltwater fish.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:21:31pm

re: #173 Charles Johnson

Reported. But I don’t expect Facebook to do anything…

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:23:57pm

re: #193 ObserverArt

That happened to a former client of mine. He saw a coon in his big old trash bin. Thought the little critter needed some help getting out as he couldn’t figure out how he got in. So, he took a tree limb and when he put it in, the little criminal ran up the limb, bit him and took off. It was so fast the guy didn’t know what happened.

Rabies shots were in order. Painful rabies shots. They are automatic for racoon bites, no stopping them if the docs find out what happened.

Jeez, what an ingrate! A bite for a boost out of the trash bin!
In her case, she was trying to get the raccoon away from her dog and it devolved into a human-raccoon brawl. She couldn’t get the better of the raccoon until she got holt of a back leg and flung it over the fence.
I now know that I should never fight a raccoon.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:25:10pm

re: #196 Joe Bacon 🌹

Reported. But I don’t expect Facebook to do anything…

“We don’t see any insults aimed at Nazis here, so no violation of our TOS.”

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:25:40pm

re: #108 JordanRules

Democrats Are Launching A Legal Fight To Save Obamacare’s Subsidy Payments
State attorneys general from California, Connecticut, Kentucky, and Massachusetts announced a new lawsuit on Friday.

buzzfeed.com

Bless that effort!

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JordanRules  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:26:05pm

re: #197 Jebediah, RBG

I know it was a horrible experience for her, but these details you’re providing are killing me and inspiring a crazy visual in my head right now!

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jeffreyw  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:30:12pm

re: #180 ObserverArt

The only thing I would change in that photo is no stringer.

Put them on ice right outta the water in an old cooler. Makes all the difference in freshness and ultimately taste.

I learned freshwater fish start to not be fresh soon after not moving about in the water. Real bad on a hot summer day and they are near the surface.

People often don’t like fish that taste “fishy” to them. That is eliminated by icing them right off. Keep ‘em on ice until scaled and filleted and they stay nice and sweet.

Outside of that, good looking catch and dinner there.

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It was about a 30 degree November day, spitting snow off and on.

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Mid-summer? Ice em down!

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ObserverArt  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:39:31pm

re: #201 jeffreyw

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Mid-summer? Ice em down!

You know the tricks! If I had a known the temps, I would not have said as much, but it is good info for anyone that might want to learn fishing, teach a kid, etc. Good times.

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gocart mozart  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:40:34pm
The Myth of the Spitting Antiwar Protester

“So where do these stories come from?”

The reporter was asking about accounts that soldiers returning from Vietnam had been spat on by antiwar activists. I had told her the stories were not true. I told her that, on the contrary, opponents of the war had actually tried to recruit returning veterans. I told her about a 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly.

But you don’t believe the stories, right? she asked. Acknowledging that I could not prove the negative — that they were not true — I went on to say there is no corroboration or documentary evidence, such as newspaper reports from the time, that they are true. Many of the stories have implausible details, like returning soldiers deplaning at San Francisco Airport, where they were met by groups of spitting hippies. In fact, return flights landed at military air bases like Travis, from which protesters would have been barred. Others include claims that military authorities told them on returning flights to change into civilian clothes upon arrival lest they be attacked by protesters. Trash cans at the Los Angeles airport were piled high with abandoned uniforms, according to one eyewitness, a sight that would surely have been documented by news photographers — if it had existed.

nytimes.com

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Alephnaught  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:47:23pm

re: #203 gocart mozart

From the article:

Acknowledging that I could not prove the negative — that they were not true

Obvious fail there: you cannot disprove something which has not been proven.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:47:40pm

re: #90 wrenchwench

Here’s something I could do with a bunch of old bike parts.

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I miss twitter more than I miss FB. I’m returning to LOL cats, which has changed a lot.

Lots better than a Tiki torch. Just saying.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:52:42pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:56:07pm

re: #139 bratwurst

Easy targets are easy

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gocart mozart  Oct 13, 2017 • 3:56:46pm

re: #204 Alephnaught

Acknowledging that I could not prove the negative — that they were not true

Obvious fail there: you cannot disprove something which has not been proven.

Yeah, I cringed at that too. He doesn’t have the burden of proof.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 13, 2017 • 4:00:36pm

re: #173 Charles Johnson

Will do, but I don’t expect much to happen.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2017 • 4:03:04pm

Has any prominent liberal let alone liberal politician defended Weinstein’s behavior towards women?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2017 • 4:03:30pm

Meanwhile you had a ton of right wing talking heads including the douche in the WH who did defend Ailes.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 13, 2017 • 4:04:57pm

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹

I had some dipshit in a large pickup truck parked next to me at a light in Cheyenne a few months ago. Apparently the fellow despises economical cars like Smarts, and hit the old “coal rolling” machine in his truck to bury my wife and me in diesel smoke.

I quickly accelerated away from the jerk.

Hopefully that fellow’s coal-rolling will destroy the engine on his very expensive truck.

Still remember when a jackass tried the “rolling coal” shtick here in Los Angeles. Police swarmed around the asshole and seized his truck. Asshole threw a big fit about them taking his Tonka toy!

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gocart mozart  Oct 13, 2017 • 4:10:35pm

Mavis Staples - “Little Bit”

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jeffreyw  Oct 13, 2017 • 4:12:13pm

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A Cranky One  Oct 13, 2017 • 4:12:22pm

re: #203 gocart mozart

My dad served in Vietnam. Never carried a weapon (chaplain) and risked his life multiple times to help locals (earned a Bronze Star for bravery under fire while helping to relocate a village of lepers caught in the middle of a firefight; he got folks to volunteer and went in with them).

He told me about being harassed and called a baby killer when he deplaned. It caused him great hurt, especially under the circumstances. This was a man who did nothing but help others.

I don’t think his story was unique.

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ipsos  Oct 13, 2017 • 4:15:00pm

re: #203 gocart mozart

nytimes.com

One thing the Ken Burns/Lynn Novick Vietnam film demonstrated is just how much photography and film exists of all aspects of the war and the protests against it.

If something like uniforms in the trash at LAX had happened, there *would* have been photos and Burns absolutely would have had it in his film. Period.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 13, 2017 • 4:19:03pm

re: #212 Joe Bacon 🌹

Still remember when a jackass tried the “rolling coal” shtick here in Los Angeles. Police swarmed around the asshole and seized his truck. Asshole threw a big fit about them taking his Tonka toy!

I’m seriously thinking about moving back to California. My arrival would be more than compensated by the many RWNJ refugees who are fleeing to Texas to avoid equal rights and halfway equitable taxation. RWNJs regard California as a living hell; it is a kind of cultural meme for them. That is enough reason to go.

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TedStriker  Oct 13, 2017 • 4:21:16pm

re: #212 Joe Bacon 🌹

Still remember when a jackass tried the “rolling coal” shtick here in Los Angeles. Police swarmed around the asshole and seized his truck. Asshole threw a big fit about them taking his Tonka toy!

You don’t fuck with CARB…or the LAPD.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 13, 2017 • 4:23:14pm

re: #173 Charles Johnson

Reported

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Oct 13, 2017 • 4:24:57pm

re: #141 William Lewis

Friday night.

Walleye fish fry with French fries and clam chowder. A nice cup of Americano coffee.

There are worse ways to spend a bit of time.

24 holes of disc golf today!

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Decatur Deb  Oct 13, 2017 • 4:25:53pm

re: #218 ipsos

One thing the Ken Burns/Lynn Novick Vietnam film demonstrated is just how much photography and film exists of all aspects of the war and the protests against it.

If something like uniforms in the trash at LAX had happened, there *would* have been photos and Burns absolutely would have had it in his film. Period.

During 65-67 I was flying back and forth from Knox to NYC. (We had to wear Class A uniform to fly airlines on space-available cut-rate tickets.) Never had a moment’s concern, just a bit of pity from my Midtown friends. At the war soured, there were probably some assholes who made a thing of it. Assholes we have always with us.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 13, 2017 • 4:29:09pm

re: #200 JordanRules

I know it was a horrible experience for her, but these details you’re providing are killing me and inspiring a crazy visual in my head right now!

Well, she was laughing about it the next day… not laughing as much about the shots tho. She’s a tough one!
Although if I remember correctly, she was kind of stressed and panicked until she knew Penny was out of harm’s way. She LOVES her little “jackass” Penny.

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gocart mozart  Oct 13, 2017 • 4:36:42pm

JIMI HENDRIX 12 STRING BLUES

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gocart mozart  Oct 13, 2017 • 4:44:43pm

Youtube Video

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 13, 2017 • 4:57:28pm

I think part of the problem with the NOAA thing is that no reputable scientist wants anything to do with Donald Trump.

He’s alienated and pissed off so many people he can only pick from the bottom of the barrel to fill the remaining positions.

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A Cranky One  Oct 13, 2017 • 4:59:17pm

Since I mentioned my dad’s experience returning from Vietnam, I thought I’d share something he wrote for other chaplains. I suspect William will enjoy this.

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MIDWAY between every person and that unfeeling monolith
called “institution” or ’ ‘establishment’ ’ there
should be a special person — a friend, advisor, helper —
someone who’s experienced enough to “know,” but able still
to feel how it was not to belong, not to be sure.

That someone ought to be in the world, but not of the
world — able to lead, but willing to walk side by side, even
when such a walk may be an open invitation to disaster.
His notion of love is doing and sharing, not talking and
keeping. The meanings he assigns to the joys and tragedies
of life are fashioned out of his own experience and through
his ready sharing of the experiences of others — honestly
concerned and openly crying when others suffer, and hon-
estly caring and openly rejoicing when others find happi-
ness.

Midway between — always aware that God is interested
in him, but also in every man — always aware of the ten-
sion between serving others to forward the self and serving
others despite that same self. Midway — a caring receiving
island in a huge and hostile sea — a center for repair and
rest and refreshment.

Midway between — a fearsome and beautiful place to be :
a place one must consciously choose again and again when
common sense and self -concern and the voice of the elders
call to a higher more secure place. Midway between — each
decision a risk, each experience a fresh discovery, each en-
counter a touch from the hand of God.

Midway between — a great place for a chaplain to be.

Oh, and he fought hard during his career to try and prevent the fundy takeover of the AF Academy and the rest of the services. Sadly, after he retired things went bad.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 13, 2017 • 4:59:36pm

Let’s say the House and Senate both voted to impeach Trump.

How quickly would he be out on his ass?

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A Cranky One  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:00:23pm

re: #228 Eclectic Cyborg

I think part of the problem with the NOAA thing is that no reputable scientist wants anything to do with Donald Trump.

He’s alienated and pissed off so many people he can only pick from the bottom of the barrel to fill the remaining positions.

Well, that and the fact that he and the Republican party have no use for science since it contradicts their dogma.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:05:09pm

Chris Hayes just reported that Manafort had a $60 million “relationship” with a Russian oligarch…

Hmmmmmmmmm…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:05:33pm

re: #232 Joe Bacon 🌹

Chris Hayes just reported that Manafort had a $60 million “relationship” with a Russian oligarch…

Hmmmmmmmmm…

Hmmmmmm indeed.

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austin_blue  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:06:53pm

re: #230 Eclectic Cyborg

Let’s say the House and Senate both voted to impeach Trump.

How quickly would he be out on his ass?

House impeaches, Senate holds a trial led by the Chief Justice.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:08:26pm

I could have gone the rest of my life without knowing this existed.

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William Lewis  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:09:27pm

re: #229 A Cranky One

Since I mentioned my dad’s experience returning from Vietnam, I thought I’d share something he wrote for other chaplains. I suspect William will enjoy this.

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Oh, and he fought hard during his career to try and prevent the fundy takeover of the AF Academy and the rest of the services. Sadly, after he retired things went bad.

Thank you for that. Is your father still with us? If so, please thank him for it; I will be sharing it with my priest whom I expect will find much in common with his experience there.

ETA: my current bishop was a Navy Chaplain and he was at Standing Rock last fall acting as a Chaplain to the vets there in support of the Native Americans.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:11:04pm

So I’m sitting under The Tree (banyan) in Lahaina, watching all the other tourists wandering around. Paradise, if it weren’t so bloody humid. And even so, there’s a nice fresh breeze from the ocean. I haven’t been posting (not that I do all that much anyway) because my connection is problematic.

Anyway, the last couple of days, I have been in a multiracial world, where people seem interested in helping one another instead of establishing their superiority. No evidence of DT or his supporters to be seen (I expect they’re here somewhere).

If the Rs want to turn us all into their image, they will have an uphill battle.

Tonight the ship heads off into the ocean toward Sydney. My cabin apparently cleans itself, food cooks itself and appears before us — the only chore left is laundry. (Sadly, DT is still president, which takes away around 25% from the pleasure of my vacation.)

So hang in there, and hold the fort until I’m back to rejoin the battle.

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Skip Intro  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:11:08pm

re: #228 Eclectic Cyborg

I think part of the problem with the NOAA thing is that no reputable scientist wants anything to do with Donald Trump.

He’s alienated and pissed off so many people he can only pick from the bottom of the barrel to fill the remaining positions.

Trump’s been picking from the bottom of the barrel from day one. Nothing new here.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:13:37pm

re: #235 Eclectic Cyborg

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I could have gone the rest of my life without knowing this existed.

Sheesh. At least Soviet propaganda was “realistic.”

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A Cranky One  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:13:46pm

re: #236 William Lewis

Sadly, he’s not. But he’d be happy knowing that it was shared.

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CBGB  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:13:49pm

re: #216 jeffreyw

That’s a little slice of heaven, my man.

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gocart mozart  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:16:13pm

Black Dog Alison Krauss Robert Plant

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:16:44pm

re: #235 Eclectic Cyborg

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I could have gone the rest of my life without knowing this existed.

If only he would lead the next military action in person and in that exact manner……

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:19:28pm

re: #244 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

If only he would lead the next military action in person and in that exact manner……

Maybe he’d do it if he got told that the ratings would be yuge.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:30:37pm

re: #234 austin_blue

My bet if it comes to that is that he’ll resign before he’s impeached.

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gocart mozart  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:32:17pm

Bob Dylan - Things Have Changed

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Dave In Austin  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:32:38pm

Has Allison Krause retired? If so it would be a loss to humanity

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Stanley Sea  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:35:46pm

re: #237 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

So I’m sitting under The Tree (banyan) in Lahaina, watching all the other tourists wandering around. Paradise, if it weren’t so bloody humid. And even so, there’s a nice fresh breeze from the ocean. I haven’t been posting (not that I do all that much anyway) because my connection is problematic.

Anyway, the last couple of days, I have been in a multiracial world, where people seem interested in helping one another instead of establishing their superiority. No evidence of DT or his supporters to be seen (I expect they’re here somewhere).

If the Rs want to turn us all into their image, they will have an uphill battle.

Tonight the ship heads off into the ocean toward Sydney. My cabin apparently cleans itself, food cooks itself and appears before us — the only chore left is laundry. (Sadly, DT is still president, which takes away around 25% from the pleasure of my vacation.)

So hang in there, and hold the fort until I’m back to rejoin the battle.

Sydney, wow! That sounds like an excellent cruise.

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Belafon  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:36:28pm

re: #176 Targetpractice

Remember the days when we were told that Hillary would pack her administration full of cronies, people with hefty stock portfolios and little else? That a Trump administration would bring in “the best people,” people with the training or experience to excel at their jobs?

We voted for Hillary, and we got what he said.

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gocart mozart  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:40:11pm

I did not know that Dylan was the opening act for MLK and the “I have a Dream” speech? Too bad the footage is not better.

Youtube Video

A bullet from the back of a bush
Took Medgar Evers’ blood
A finger fired the trigger to his name
A handle hid out in the dark
A hand set the spark
Two eyes took the aim
Behind a man’s brain
But he can’t be blamed
He’s only a pawn in their game

A South politician preaches to the poor white man
“You got more than the blacks, don’t complain
You’re better than them, you been born with white skin, ” they explain
And the Negro’s name
Is used, it is plain
For the politician’s gain
As he rises to fame
And the poor white remains
On the caboose of the train
But it ain’t him to blame
He’s only a pawn in their game

The deputy sheriffs, the soldiers, the governors get paid
And the marshals and cops get the same
But the poor white man’s used in the hands of them all like a tool
He’s taught in his school
From the start by the rule
That the laws are with him
To protect his white skin
To keep up his hate
So he never thinks straight
‘Bout the shape that he’s in
But it ain’t him to blame
He’s only a pawn in their game

From the poverty shacks, he looks from the cracks to the tracks
And the hoofbeats pound in his brain
And he’s taught how to walk in a pack
Shoot in the back
With his fist in a clinch
To hang and to lynch
To hide ‘neath the hood
To kill with no pain
Like a dog on a chain
He ain’t got no name
But it ain’t him to blame
He’s only a pawn in their game

Today, Medgar Evers was buried from the bullet he caught
They lowered him down as a king
But when the shadowy sun sets on the one
That fired the gun
He’ll see by his grave
On the stone that remains
Carved next to his name
His epitaph plain
Only a pawn in their game

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jaunte  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:43:12pm

re: #235 Eclectic Cyborg

What is it with conservatives and horrible art?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:45:16pm

re: #230 Eclectic Cyborg

Let’s say the House and Senate both voted to impeach Trump.

How quickly would he be out on his ass?

He’s no longer President the second he’s found guilty in the Senate trial, but the process to get there takes awhile. It took the House of Representatives two months and eleven days from the first authorization to open an impeachment inquiry on Clinton to approving two articles of impeachment. It then took another seven weeks for the Senate trial to conclude and for the vote to acquit him.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:45:17pm

re: #252 jaunte

What is it with conservatives and horrible art?

Most fantasy art is bad.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:47:30pm

re: #251 gocart mozart

I did not know that Dylan was the opening act for MLK and the “I have a Dream” speech? Too bad the footage is not better.

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A bullet from the back of a bush
Took Medgar Evers’ blood
A finger fired the trigger to his name
A handle hid out in the dark
A hand set the spark
Two eyes took the aim
Behind a man’s brain
But he can’t be blamed
He’s only a pawn in their game

A South politician preaches to the poor white man
“You got more than the blacks, don’t complain
You’re better than them, you been born with white skin, ” they explain
And the Negro’s name
Is used, it is plain
For the politician’s gain
As he rises to fame
And the poor white remains
On the caboose of the train
But it ain’t him to blame
He’s only a pawn in their game

The deputy sheriffs, the soldiers, the governors get paid
And the marshals and cops get the same
But the poor white man’s used in the hands of them all like a tool
He’s taught in his school
From the start by the rule
That the laws are with him
To protect his white skin
To keep up his hate
So he never thinks straight
‘Bout the shape that he’s in
But it ain’t him to blame
He’s only a pawn in their game

From the poverty shacks, he looks from the cracks to the tracks
And the hoofbeats pound in his brain
And he’s taught how to walk in a pack
Shoot in the back
With his fist in a clinch
To hang and to lynch
To hide ‘neath the hood
To kill with no pain
Like a dog on a chain
He ain’t got no name
But it ain’t him to blame
He’s only a pawn in their game

Today, Medgar Evers was buried from the bullet he caught
They lowered him down as a king
But when the shadowy sun sets on the one
That fired the gun
He’ll see by his grave
On the stone that remains
Carved next to his name
His epitaph plain
Only a pawn in their game

I get obsessed with certain songs. I’ve found myself obsessed by the Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll the past couple days.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:48:09pm

re: #252 jaunte

What is it with conservatives and horrible art?

I would speculate most talented artists tend to lean more to the Liberal side of the spectrum.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:49:25pm

re: #256 Eclectic Cyborg

I would speculate most talented artists tend to lean more to the Liberal side of the spectrum.

That they do.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:49:30pm

The POTUS can’t read…….

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:50:43pm

re: #230 Eclectic Cyborg

Let’s say the House and Senate both voted to impeach Trump.

How quickly would he be out on his ass?

Also, there is NO judicial review of impeachment proceedings. SCOTUS ruled on this in Nixon v. United States (Not that Nixon.)

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lawhawk  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:53:14pm

re: #259 goddamnedfrank

Impeachment is a political process. IF the House votes to impeach, the Senate agrees, the subject of impeachment is out. Period. There’s no appeal. There’s no wait period. It’s immediate.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:54:01pm

If anyone deserves to be the first president to be removed from office, it’s this guy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:54:36pm

wondering what he screwed up this time:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:56:03pm
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makeitstop  Oct 13, 2017 • 5:58:51pm
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jaunte  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:00:42pm

Speaking of art, I picked up a book of e.e. cummings poems, and ran across this one.
Only a few current event updates, and it works in 2017.

the season ‘tis, my lovely lambs,

of Sumner Volstead Christ and Co.
the epoch of Mann’s righteousness
the age of dollars and no sense.

Which being quite beyond dispute

as prove from Troy (N. Y.) to Cairo
(Egypt) the luminous dithyrambs
of large immaculate unmute
antibolshevistic gents
(each manufacturing word by word
his own unrivalled brand of pyro
-technic blurb anent the (hic)
hero dead that gladly (sic)
in far lands perished of unheard
of maladies including flu)

my little darlings, let us now
passionately remember how—

braving the worst, of peril heedless,
each braver than the other, each
(a typewriter within his reach)
upon his fearless derriere
sturdily seated— Colonel Needless
To Name and General You know who
a string of pretty medals drew

(while messrs jack James john and jim
in token of their country’s love
received my dears the order of
The Artificial Arm and Limb)

—or, since bloodshed and kindred questions
inhibit unprepared digestions,
come: let us mildly contemplate
beginning with his wellfilled pants
earth’s biggest grafter, nothing less;
the Honorable Mr. (guess)
who, breathing on the ear of fate,
landed a seat in the legislat-
ure* whereas tommy so and so
(an erring child of circumstance
whom the bulls nabbed at 33rd)
pulled six months** for selling snow***

*update to presidency

** death
*** selling loose cigarettes

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teleskiguy  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:01:01pm

Of course the one day I take off from Twitter Fuckface Von Clownstick is tweeting utter garbage on the regular.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:01:24pm

re: #264 makeitstop

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Deep State! //

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makeitstop  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:01:36pm

I found this by accident on Youtube. The Beatles on the David Frost show, goofing and debuting ‘Hey Jude.’ Then they invite the audience up to have a jolly singalong. I love this clip.

The Beatles - Hey Jude

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:02:07pm
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no second date…indeed…

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EPR-radar  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:03:57pm

re: #253 goddamnedfrank

He’s no longer President the second he’s found guilty in the Senate trial, but the process to get there takes awhile. It took the House of Representatives two months and eleven days from the first authorization to open an impeachment inquiry on Clinton to approving two articles of impeachment. It then took another seven weeks for the Senate trial to conclude and for the vote to acquit him.

None of that is set in stone. If Congress musters the will to act, they could move very quickly indeed. My favorite daydream is impeachment in the morning, conviction early in the afternoon (after a lunch break), t**** getting his ass physically hauled out of the white house in the evening, just in time for live coverage on news shows.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:04:58pm

re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth

wondering what he screwed up this time:

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Yeah, let’s piss off the Indians too. Btw, it wasn’t next door to the Indian Military Academy where we caught up with bin Laden.

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EPR-radar  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:06:14pm

re: #266 teleskiguy

Of course the one day I take off from Twitter Fuckface Von Clownstick is tweeting utter garbage on the regular.

Come now, that’s just business as usual these days. Twitler on the Shitler throne will never go away until he’s out of office.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:07:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:08:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:09:11pm

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Makes Trump’s remarks about the death toll all the worse.

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gocart mozart  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:10:34pm

She sings like Dylan at the 1:10 mark + the baby makes this cute as hell.

1972 - You Have Got To Hear Baez Imitate Dylan

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:14:16pm

re: #273 Charles Johnson

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gocart mozart  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:14:18pm

Here’s John Lennon’s Dylan spoof

John Lennon demo - MOCKING Bob Dylan’s voice, songs and style! - ‘Satire’ 1978 :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:15:41pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:18:02pm

…………..

Man fatally struck by 6 train was artist who placed urinating dog statue near ‘Fearless Girl’ art

nydailynews.com

bummer.

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jaunte  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:19:04pm

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

صدام!

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Stanley Sea  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:23:24pm

Can’t link vid - go to link to see

Chris Hale found a dehydrated cat in a tool box of a burned house at the Tubbs fire in the Coffey Park Neighborhood on Thursday, October 12, 2017 in Santa Rosa. Rescuers planned to take the cat to a shelter.

sacbee.com

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teleskiguy  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:24:52pm

re: #282 Stanley Sea

Presto, abracadabra!

Iframe

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Stanley Sea  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:27:40pm

re: #283 teleskiguy

TY.

Such a lucky kit.

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gocart mozart  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:28:04pm

This is interesting: Chomsky on the Trump Presidency. A foreign TV interview (Spanish language, not sure what country)

Noam Chomsky: First six months of Trump Presidency is a horror story (August 30, 2017)

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Charles Johnson  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:28:40pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:29:12pm

Priebus was interviewed by Mueller today

nytimes.com

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TedStriker  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:29:44pm

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

no second date…indeed…

Just a court date.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:29:59pm

re: #270 EPR-radar

None of that is set in stone. If Congress musters the will to act, they could move very quickly indeed. My favorite daydream is impeachment in the morning, conviction early in the afternoon (after a lunch break), t**** getting his ass physically hauled out of the white house in the evening, just in time for live coverage on news shows.

Maybe with unanimous consent on several procedural and committee votes in the House. Just think of how many utterly batshit insane reps we have in the US House and the circumstances required for that be even remotely plausible are terrifying to contemplate.

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freetoken  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:33:54pm

Note on coding R: be sure to write at least 10 lines of comments for every line of executable, because after a couple of years it’s all too easy to forget what some arcane package for an unusual project truly does and why it does it.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:35:30pm

re: #286 Charles Johnson

“It’s being dismantled” will be seen as an incredibly incriminating statement by the courts. He’s openly refusing to faithfully execute the law as written, without a SCOTUS ruling to back him up.

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bratwurst  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:36:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:41:51pm

jeebus…

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Stanley Sea  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:43:58pm

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus…

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Dayum

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Skip Intro  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:44:35pm

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dobbs is working really hard to get trump’s dick away from Hannity.

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EPR-radar  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:45:39pm

re: #291 goddamnedfrank

“It’s being dismantled” will be seen as an incredibly incriminating statement by the courts. He’s openly refusing to faithfully execute the law as written, without a SCOTUS ruling to back him up.

That right there is impeachable. IIRC the founders had this vision of the president being so scared of impeachment that the executive would end up being much weaker than Congress. It didn’t turn out that way.

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EPR-radar  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:47:05pm

re: #295 Skip Intro

Dobbs is working really hard to get trump’s dick away from Hannity.

Forget the usual business of a fellatio artist trying to suck a golf ball through a garden hose — Dobbs is trying to suck a bowling ball through a garden hose.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:47:13pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:48:48pm

re: #298 FormerDirtDart

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WTF

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freetoken  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:48:49pm

re: #296 EPR-radar

That right there is impeachable.

Which unfortunately does not mean there will be an impeachment.

The GOP in Congress have clearly demonstrated that they do not care what Trump does as long as he doesn’t upset their apple cart.

Now with the failure of Trump to get any substantial legislation moved through Congress, a time may come when Ryan et. al. fail at a tax package for their deep pocket sponsors. If that happens then perhaps all this other stuff may count for something, but until then it’s just business as usual.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:50:01pm

re: #300 Stanley Sea

WTF

Every year, the U.S. President, U.S. Senate, state governors, and officials around the world proclaim the third week in October CHARACTER COUNTS! Week. (See the official endorsements.) And every year millions of kids in dozens of countries participate. No matter what your political or religious affiliation, this event is about the universal values we share.

charactercounts.org

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A Cranky One  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:50:19pm

re: #290 freetoken

Note on coding R: be sure to write at least 10 lines of comments for every line of executable, because after a couple of years it’s all too easy to forget what some arcane package for an unusual project truly does and why it does it.

I once worked closely with a brilliant coder whose code was amazingly concise, compiled tiny and ran super fast, but was often impossible to understand. For giggles I’d take some samples of his code to people with decades of coding experience and ask them what the code does. Usually got blank stares after a careful examination. Heck, in the time we worked together he wrote a bug report on the compiler; after it was fixed, we recovered significant real-time resources.

To your previous comment, his code was usually poorly documented and when there were comments, they were things like “This section explains why a raven is like a writing desk.”

Sigh.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:50:43pm

re: #285 gocart mozart

(Psst. It’s Portuguese.)

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Stanley Sea  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:51:50pm

re: #302 Stanley Sea

charactercounts.org

OK, read Obama’s proclamation & just imagine….

obamawhitehouse.archives.gov

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:54:21pm

re: #298 FormerDirtDart

The presidential proclamation is an annual event that stretches back to the Clinton administration. Every year since 1993, the president has signed a proclamation and the Senate has passed a joint resolution declaring the third week in October National Character Counts Week, according to the Josephson Institute’s World Character Counts Week website.

usatoday.com

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jaunte  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:55:08pm

Historically bad character changes history.

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jaunte  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:55:35pm
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plansbandc  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:56:12pm

re: #283 teleskiguy

Poor little fellow.

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gocart mozart  Oct 13, 2017 • 6:56:18pm

re: #304 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Portugal, Spain, same thing. I dare you to say that to a Portugese or Spanish person.

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William Lewis  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:02:56pm

re: #303 A Cranky One

I once worked closely with a brilliant coder whose code was amazingly concise, compiled tiny and ran super fast, but was often impossible to understand. For giggles I’d take some samples of his code to people with decades of coding experience and ask them what the code does. Usually got blank stares after a careful examination. Heck, in the time we worked together he wrote a bug report on the compiler; after it was fixed, we recovered significant real-time resources.

To your previous comment, his code was usually poorly documented and when there were comments, they were things like “This section explains why a raven is like a writing desk.”

Sigh.

That reminds me of the legendary comment in the Unix system 6 sources. Deep in the guts of the memory management system was a call that first saved a system context and then swapped it out in a horribly written manner. The comment attempts to explain the mess than gives up, metaphorically throwing it’s arms up in defeat saying “You are not expected to understand this.”

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EPR-radar  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:03:34pm

re: #302 Stanley Sea

There are no shared values between Republicans and non-Republicans in the US once you get past platitudes and polite noises.

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freetoken  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:04:08pm

re: #303 A Cranky One

As a project manager, I wouldn’t pay such a person.

For any coder to get paid, I’d require the code to be delivered to another person (not familiar with project) to write up an explanation of what was going on and why. If that couldn’t be done, then the original coder doesn’t get paid.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:04:40pm

re: #310 gocart mozart

Portugal, Spain, same thing. I dare you to say that to a Portugese or Spanish person.

I’ll just tell them you said it.

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EPR-radar  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:05:41pm

re: #311 William Lewis

That reminds me of the legendary comment in the Unix system 6 sources. Deep in the guts of the memory management system was a call that first saved a system context and then swapped it out in a horribly written manner. The comment attempts to explain the mess than gives up, metaphorically throwing it’s arms up in defeat saying “You are not expected to understand this.”

Is that the one that mentions incantations over a witch’s cauldron at midnight, or am I thinking of a different programmer’s campfire tale?

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sagehen  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:06:10pm

re: #210 HappyWarrior

Has any prominent liberal let alone liberal politician defended Weinstein’s behavior towards women?

Donna Karan (70-year-old fashion designer) said something stupid… but she’s not in any way a political figure, and she was thoroughly and broadly criticized for it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:08:19pm

re: #316 sagehen

Donna Karan (70-year-old fashion designer) said something stupid… but she’s not in any way a political figure, and she was thoroughly and broadly criticized for it.

Yep.

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William Lewis  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:08:39pm

re: #315 EPR-radar

Is that the one that mentions incantations over a witch’s cauldron at midnight, or am I thinking of a different programmer’s campfire tale?

Heh. Different one.

I also used to invoke waving a dead chicken over a computer as a way to fix SCSI errors since the first couple of generations of SCSI could get insanely gnarly fast. My co-workers never could understand why I’d whip out a rubber chicken while cussing out the tape drive especially…

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Skip Intro  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:09:49pm

re: #313 freetoken

We used to use “miracle occurs here”.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:13:18pm

Damn.

The beauty of today is I’ve visited so many websites & read their content.

I need new ones.

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gocart mozart  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:13:37pm

An advertisement

Jimi Hendrix - The Dick Cavett Show (Trailer)

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plansbandc  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:19:18pm

It’s disgusting just how many people in this country are more than happy with a fascist state.

My question… Has this country always been this way? Was I taught bullshit my whole life? Did I just have blinders on because of white middle class privilege?

tRumps election has me doubting everything I thought I knew about this country. And I’m a fucking historian.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:20:33pm

Reporter on CNN from Tehran.

People on the streets:

moderates/liberals were for the agreement & hopeful for relations with the US.

Hard liners hate the US.

Moderates are very disappointed & hardliners are saying, we told you so.

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teleskiguy  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:21:29pm

Arapahoe Basin ski area opened today with one run.

This picture from this morning is why I skip opening days if only one run is open.

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jaunte  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:22:51pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:23:39pm

re: #235 Eclectic Cyborg

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I could have gone the rest of my life without knowing this existed.

Is that “painting” from the same jackass who did all those paintings that trashed Obama?

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freetoken  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:26:18pm

re: #322 plansbandc

My question… Has this country always been this way? Was I taught bullshit my whole life?

Possibly. We should always be open to the idea that our teachers/elders only gave us biased information.

I know that there were Nazi sympathisers in this country. Many years ago my mother worked for a (descendant of German immigrants) guy, who she discovered kept Nazi memorabilia, and not necessarily just as a history-hobby.

Most of the 1950’s propaganda by the rabid anti-communist politicians in this country strike me as tending very much like indoctrination into a state of mind that, if it went unchecked, could have led to a fascistic state.

Early American history mostly is about taking land from Natives (and killing them if they resisted), which itself raises the question of American penchant for genocide.

But these sort of discussions can really make people uncomfortable.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:26:20pm

re: #323 Stanley Sea

Reporter on CNN from Tehran.

People on the streets:

moderates/liberals were for the agreement & hopeful for relations with the US.

Hard liners hate the US.

Moderates are very disappointed & hardliners are saying, we told you so.

Yep he emboldened the hardliners in Iran. Fucking ass.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:26:35pm

re: #280 Stanley Sea

…………..

nydailynews.com

bummer.

Sometimes karma acts quicker than at other times

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gocart mozart  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:26:37pm

re: #322 plansbandc

Jimi Hendrix - The Dick Cavett Show (Trailer)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:27:45pm

re: #322 plansbandc

It’s disgusting just how many people in this country are more than happy with a fascist state.

My question… Has this country always been this way? Was I taught bullshit my whole life? Did I just have blinders on because of white middle class privilege?

tRumps election has me doubting everything I thought I knew about this country. And I’m a fucking historian.

I find myself wondering the same thing. And we have similiar backgrounds. White, middle class, and I while I don’t use my history degree’s historical stuff in my profession I definitely would consider myself something of a historian.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:29:47pm

I think this is a great country but we still have a long way to go.

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prairiefire  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:35:08pm

re: #324 teleskiguy

That’s a long wait.

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Belafon  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:37:08pm

re: #322 plansbandc

It’s disgusting just how many people in this country are more than happy with a fascist state.

My question… Has this country always been this way? Was I taught bullshit my whole life? Did I just have blinders on because of white middle class privilege?

tRumps election has me doubting everything I thought I knew about this country. And I’m a fucking historian.

There are people angry that this will no longer be a white country. And they’ll sell their souls to prevent the change.

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William Lewis  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:37:47pm

re: #322 plansbandc

It’s disgusting just how many people in this country are more than happy with a fascist state.

My question… Has this country always been this way? Was I taught bullshit my whole life? Did I just have blinders on because of white middle class privilege?

tRumps election has me doubting everything I thought I knew about this country. And I’m a fucking historian.

Yes and no.

Yes there have always been scum & fascists behind much in this nation. Google Smedley Butler & the Business Plot for example.

No, OTOH, there have always been men and women who believe in the promise and ideals that our nation was founded on. We will never succeed in perfection but we’ll die making it a better place than it was when we found it.

Chose your side, pick up your (metaphorical for now) weapon and fight to make America what it was always supposed to be.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:38:08pm

re: #334 Belafon

There are people angry that this will no longer be a white country. And they’ll sell their souls to prevent the change.

They’re the ideological descendants of those who freaked out about Catholics and Jews emigrating in mass numbers.

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gocart mozart  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:48:08pm

This always cracks me up

U2’s first TV appearance

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:54:00pm

re: #322 plansbandc

Black man was President something something…

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makeitstop  Oct 13, 2017 • 7:54:54pm

re: #337 gocart mozart

This always cracks me up

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With Napoleon Dynamite on bass.

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austin_blue  Oct 13, 2017 • 9:04:54pm

re: #242 gocart mozart

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Video

Krauss and Plant used to cohabitate in South Austin.

I ran into Plant three times at the local HEB Grocery (the Ocho!). He was always wearing half-glasses and staring at food labels.

“Hi, Bob.”

“Hullo.”

“Don’t worry, its South Austin and no one is going to give you any smack.”

“I know, that’s why I like it.”

I once mentioned that my brother-in-law was one of the founding members of Silly Wizard, and got him his numbers. They’ve been in touch.

Last year, on our annual trek to Leighton Buzzard, I noticed that my BIL had three absolutely gorgeous guitars made by a luthier in SoCal. He’s a trader in fine guitars. I asked him “Three?”. He said “They’re works of art and brilliant instruments.”

They are.

Here’s her website:

wingertguitars.com

I just gasped when I saw the list price per axe.


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