Video: A Shocking Nazi Rally at Madison Square Garden in 1939 - “A Night at the Garden”

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In 1939, New York’s Madison Square Garden was host to an enormous—and shocking—gathering of 22,000 Americans that has largely been forgotten from our history.

Directed by Marshall Curry

See more from Field of Vision here: fieldofvision.org

For more on the rally, read a Q&A with Marshall Curry here:
fieldofvision.org

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266 comments

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Belafon  Oct 14, 2017 • 9:06:58pm

“Let me tell you about the time when Nazis held rallies in the United States.”
“Do you mean 1939?”
“No, 2017.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 14, 2017 • 9:07:17pm

And now we have Richard Spencer and his goons demanding speaking time all over the country.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 14, 2017 • 9:09:24pm

Yeah, it’s a Heinlein reality for sure.

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JordanRules  Oct 14, 2017 • 9:09:58pm
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Birth Control Works  Oct 14, 2017 • 9:12:17pm

I finished watching NARCOS. Kinda like Goodfellas, but without the implied humor.

Now, what do I watch?

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jaunte  Oct 14, 2017 • 9:14:02pm

re: #5 Birth Control Works

I finished Narcos recently, following with ‘Aquarius.’

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 14, 2017 • 9:17:08pm

Within a few years only a handful of these fuckers would admit they were ever near the place. May it be so again.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 14, 2017 • 9:17:12pm

Is MERCS any good?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 14, 2017 • 9:17:31pm

re: #4 JordanRules

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As much as I want to see Issa and Nunes go down, seeing Rohrabacher get unseated is now at the top of my list. I remember back in the 70s he was organizing for the Libertarian Party. He was active in the Anarcho-Capitalist wing of the Party, attended the 1980 LP convention that nominated Ed Clark for president and a certain David Koch for Vice-President.

If there is karmic justice he will lose his seat and then get indicted by Mueller!

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Birth Control Works  Oct 14, 2017 • 9:17:45pm

The movies, Blood on the Leaves and Remember were worth watching.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 14, 2017 • 9:23:51pm

The Allies were a good deal harder on the Nazis than the U.S. had been on the Confederates, but it looks as though they too were not hard enough.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 14, 2017 • 9:30:37pm

re: #11 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The Allies were a good deal harder on the Nazis than the U.S. had been on the Confederates, but it looks as though they too were not hard enough.

I dunno. The Germans seem to have learned Nazism’s lessons. Some of the worst Nazi apologists come form people whose grandfathers and great grandfathers fought against the regime like us and the U.K.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 14, 2017 • 9:33:14pm

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teleskiguy  Oct 14, 2017 • 9:59:03pm

In the video, notice that when they pledge allegiance to the flag “under God” is absent.

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sagehen  Oct 14, 2017 • 10:02:23pm

re: #14 teleskiguy

In the video, notice that when they pledge allegiance to the flag “under God” is absent.

That was added in the 1950’s, to prove we weren’t godless commies.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Oct 14, 2017 • 10:25:39pm

Who in Field Marshal von Shittertweet’s den of snakes has been putting things in front of him this last week or so? Suddenly he’s singing orders and making speeches which target actual legal structures. He’s starting to do real damage. What changed? New think tank? New “advisor”? Somebody with an understanding of law has handed him the knife.

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Alyosha  Oct 14, 2017 • 10:33:18pm

re: #16 Pawn of the Oppressor

Who in Field Marshal von Shittertweet’s den of snakes has been putting things in front of him this last week or so? Suddenly he’s singing orders and making speeches which target actual legal structures. He’s starting to do real damage. What changed? New think tank? New “advisor”? Somebody with an understanding of law has handed him the knife.

The writing is on the wall. He’s tearing what he can down because time is clearly running out.

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Alyosha  Oct 14, 2017 • 10:36:48pm

re: #17 Alyosha
I was actually just thinking about this.

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teleskiguy  Oct 14, 2017 • 10:48:12pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2017 • 10:48:20pm

The alt-right spent a lot of time convincing us that they just represented a point of view along the political spectrum. They are Nazis.

I know it is one thing to use that term to disparage people you disagree with, but if someone is marching in public with a swastika banner and chanting “Jews will not replace us!”, I think it is safe to assume they are Nazis and treat them as such.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 14, 2017 • 10:52:32pm

re: #5 Birth Control Works

I finished watching NARCOS. Kinda like Goodfellas, but without the implied humor.

Now, what do I watch?

Avoid Star Trek Beyond. I saw it last night and it was awful.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2017 • 10:53:05pm

re: #21 goddamnedfrank

Avoid Star Trek Beyond. I saw it last night and it was awful.

Did not find it awful, but I am not particularly impressed. And not because it has too many women in leading roles or anything. It is just trying too hard to be something other than Star Trek.

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Belafon  Oct 14, 2017 • 10:55:43pm

re: #21 goddamnedfrank

Avoid Star Trek Beyond. I saw it last night and it was awful.

And I thought it was the best of the new three because it finally stopped trying to be the old series. I also liked the attacking enemy fleet because that’s how I would build a flying force.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2017 • 10:57:47pm

re: #23 Belafon

And I thought it was the best of the new three because it finally stopped trying to be the old series. I also liked the attacking enemy fleet because that’s how I would build a flying force.

That was one of the parts that I liked about it.

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sagehen  Oct 14, 2017 • 11:00:24pm

re: #21 goddamnedfrank

Avoid Star Trek Beyond. I saw it last night and it was awful.

Has anybody watched Marvel’s “Inhumans”? Is it as bad as the reviews?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 14, 2017 • 11:22:26pm

re: #23 Belafon

And I thought it was the best of the new three because it finally stopped trying to be the old series. I also liked the attacking enemy fleet because that’s how I would build a flying force.

Nothing made sense. Edison / Krall says he found the planet abandoned except for the drone workforce and all but three of his crew died but then why do the drone ships have pilots and where did all his soldiers come from? How the hell did he forget about the starship he crash landed on the planet? Why does Krall even need an ancient bio-weapon when he’s got a drone swarm fleet that can only be destroyed by the Beastie Boys? How you gonna cast Idris Elba and then not let him act?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2017 • 11:27:04pm

re: #26 goddamnedfrank

I did not follow the whole Klingon cultural subplot at all…

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alloutofcrazyhere  Oct 14, 2017 • 11:32:38pm

re: #25 sagehen

If they want to get better ratings, they could just replace all the characters in the show with the Trump clan.

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Belafon  Oct 14, 2017 • 11:39:44pm

re: #26 goddamnedfrank

Nothing made sense. Edison / Krall says he found the planet abandoned except for the drone workforce and all but three of his crew died but then why do the drone ships have pilots and where did all his soldiers come from? How the hell did he forget about the starship he crash landed on the planet? Why does Krall even need an ancient bio-weapon when he’s got a drone swarm fleet that can only be destroyed by the Beastie Boys? How you gonna cast Idris Elba and then not let him act?

The pilots were drones (robots) that were formerly used as miners. Krall converted them to an army. The other soldiers were recruited by him because of the shared hatred of Starfleet.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 14, 2017 • 11:56:53pm

Hello, all,

I am now in China and start work tomorrow. I’ve recovered from jet lag, unpacked and kinda settled in my new flat. No internet access there yet, but at least I can use the office wifi. I’ll have a more detailed report once I meet my students, but for now I’m just letting you all know I’m alive and OK.

This is not news: Trump is an ass. I heard about his EO about health care while I was in LAX waiting for my international flight. Holy fuck! Will Congress and the courts let that EO stand? Seems like he just killed the ACA with the stroke of a pen.

Then there’s the Iran deal. And Puerto Rico still.

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teleskiguy  Oct 14, 2017 • 11:57:55pm

re: #30 wheat-dogg

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 15, 2017 • 12:01:39am
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Birth Control Works  Oct 15, 2017 • 12:37:41am

nightall

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 15, 2017 • 12:50:24am

Winning

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 15, 2017 • 1:08:55am

This is why we can’t have nice things. Puerto Rican Green Party candidate respects non-voters more than Hillary voters despite Trump committing genocide by neglect in Puerto Rico.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 15, 2017 • 1:21:28am
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teleskiguy  Oct 15, 2017 • 2:07:47am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 15, 2017 • 2:10:35am

re: #37 teleskiguy

WTF?!?

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Pineapple Pizzagate  Oct 15, 2017 • 2:31:10am
Jazz great, former Oscar Peterson drummer Alvin Queen, denied entry into USA.

Mount Vernon, New York native Alvin Queen was recently notified that U.S. Homeland Security will not allow him to enter the United States to perform at a prestigious, long-planned concert in Washington.

prweb.com

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Nyet  Oct 15, 2017 • 3:11:53am
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Dave In Austin  Oct 15, 2017 • 3:23:46am

re: #40 Nyet

He’s a nasty one isn’t he?

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Ghost of the Mare Island Mud Puppy  Oct 15, 2017 • 3:42:03am

re: #40 Nyet

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Nyet  Oct 15, 2017 • 3:45:23am

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freetoken  Oct 15, 2017 • 3:47:20am

Ophelia now caught up in the long end of a cold front, but it’s still maintaining an eye:

ssd.noaa.gov

Little storm that could.

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Kragar  Oct 15, 2017 • 3:49:04am
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Decatur Deb  Oct 15, 2017 • 3:53:31am

re: #41 Dave In Austin

He’s a nasty one isn’t he?

And not a very bright one.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 15, 2017 • 3:54:09am

re: #45 Kragar

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That’ll teach him.

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Ghost of the Mare Island Mud Puppy  Oct 15, 2017 • 3:56:10am

re: #43 Nyet

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Ghost of the Mare Island Mud Puppy  Oct 15, 2017 • 3:58:48am

Time to head to work. Type at you all tonight.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 15, 2017 • 4:00:50am

re: #39 Pineapple Pizzagate

prweb.com

1. That’s the jazz era I love.
2. More dipshittery from the Trumpisti.
3. Dude should pay his taxes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 15, 2017 • 4:04:54am

re: #50 Decatur Deb

1. That’s the jazz era I love.
2. More dipshittery from the Trumpisti.
3. Dude should pay his taxes.

These are things you have to think of if you go live abroad. I have had expatriate friends face similar problems. Reminds me that I have to file my taxes soon

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Weaselone  Oct 15, 2017 • 4:59:35am

re: #34 goddamnedfrank

What’s with the “may” in this summary? Chad withdrawing is a consequence, it’s not speculative.

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Varek Raith  Oct 15, 2017 • 5:20:55am

Good morning fellow Presidents of the US Virgin Islands.

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jeffreyw  Oct 15, 2017 • 5:30:28am

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Good morning!

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 15, 2017 • 6:02:30am

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

And now we have Richard Spencer and his goons demanding speaking time all over the country.

And getting it because there is no difference between free speech and hate speech. And all this while Black NFL players are told that they can’t protest peacefully.

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Nyet  Oct 15, 2017 • 6:15:09am
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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 15, 2017 • 6:26:08am

re: #56 Nyet

Happy to oblige.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 15, 2017 • 6:29:05am

re: #55 Patricia Kayden

Wonder what happens when they get their new Trump rump rubbing rule passed and ratings still decline? The protest was not the problem.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 6:31:05am

re: #56 Nyet

Aw the little KKKeyboard KKKomando deleted his tweet after Sergey exposed the threat. Nice work, Sergey and I still reported that Chicken!

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lawhawk  Oct 15, 2017 • 6:41:12am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

It isn’t surprising to anyone here, but the people most affected by Trump’s insane sabotage of CSRs are the GOP dominated states. They’re the ones who will see the biggest spikes in premiums. They’re the ones who will get the most out of pocket costs added to their burdens.

And yet they continue to think Trump’s helping them.

Trump knows his marks better than most.

He also knows the media isn’t going to ask him tough questions before policies are announced.

Media needs to ask him directly what specifics are included in his tax policies. Ask him about the estate tax repeal, and who that helps and whether his family benefits. Ask him the thresholds for the estate tax.

Then demand he answer the same questions about the tax brackets.

As we saw in the debates, he can’t answer any of this, but the media continues giving him a pass. They continue giving this entire admin and the GOP a pass despite they elected a reactionary know nothing who isn’t competent to hold the position.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 15, 2017 • 6:43:53am

Sunrise looks like a nice one this morning on the west coast.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 6:44:33am

re: #59 Joe Bacon 🌹

Aw the little KKKeyboard KKKomando deleted his tweet after Sergey exposed the threat. Nice work, Sergey and I still reported that Chicken!

Nope, I can still see the tweet, and I’m not on Twitter.

Unless it’s a different tweet to which you refer. Behind the privacy bar.

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Sergey’s call to report the tweet is also there in the guy’s timeline.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 6:45:01am

re: #61 Unshaken Defiance

Sunrise looks like a nice one this morning on the west coast.

Pretty morning here on the Inland Coast.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 15, 2017 • 6:48:26am

re: #63 Anymouse

Maybe just cause I’m a photographer but I really notice the better blue sky really low humidity brings. Fire helicopters out already, red flag fire patrols I suppose.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 6:49:50am
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PhillyPretzel  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:14:26am

re: #61 Unshaken Defiance

Cloudy and overcast this morning in Philly. It is supposed to be sunny and warm later.
weather.gov

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:15:40am

re: #60 lawhawk

Media needs to ask him directly what specifics are included in his tax policies. Ask him about the estate tax repeal, and who that helps and whether his family benefits. Ask him the thresholds for the estate tax.

Then demand he answer the same questions about the tax brackets.

As we saw in the debates, he can’t answer any of this, but the media continues giving him a pass. They continue giving this entire admin and the GOP a pass despite they elected a reactionary know nothing who isn’t competent to hold the position.

Because he ran as the anti-politician. This allows him to get away with stuff that would totally sink the career of any professional pol.

The press even gave him a pass on his tax returns: they should have refused to cover him until he released them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:16:33am

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹

Remember this face—-> This woman wants to remove a law that requires emergency rooms to treat every individual who walks in.

Just make sure you have an emergency chicken at hand…

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ObserverArt  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:17:55am

This article is a couple days old, so maybe it has been posted and I missed it.

It is another revelation into the background of President Donny. It says a lot about him really and how he may have come to be the blowhard over-the-top character he is.

Here is the link and some juicy bits I am pulling out of it. It is a pretty thorough article. Reading the whole thing is suggested.

Also, it sure solidifies some things I’ve always thought about the whole Self Help Industry and its ties to Christianity.

Politico - The Power of Trump’s Positive Thinking

Donald Trump is a self-help apostle. He always has tried to create his own reality by saying what he wants to be true. Where many see failure, Trump sees only success, and expresses it out loud, again and again.

“We have the votes” to pass a new health care bill, he said last month even though he and Republicans didn’t then and still don’t.

“We get an A-plus,” he said last week of his and his administration’s response to the devastating recent hurricanes as others doled out withering reviews.

“I’ve had just about the most legislation passed of any president, in a nine-month period, that’s ever served,” he said this week in an interview with Forbes, contradicting objective metrics and repeating his frequent and dubious assertion of unprecedented success throughout the first year of his first term as president.

The reality is that Trump is in a rut. His legislative agenda is floundering. His approval ratings are historically low. He’s raging privately while engaging in noisy, internecine squabbles. He’s increasingly isolated. And yet his fact-flouting declarations of positivity continue unabated. For Trump, though, these statements are not issues of right or wrong or true or false. They are something much more elemental. They are a direct result of the closest thing the stubborn, ideologically malleable celebrity businessman turned most powerful person on the planet has ever had to a devout religious faith. This is not his mother’s flinty Scottish Presbyterianism but Norman Vincent Peale’s “power of positive thinking,” the utterly American belief in self above all else and the conviction that thoughts can be causative, that basic assertion can lead to actual achievement.

In 1988, in a seminal paper within the subject area, psychologists from UCLA and Southern Methodist University wrote that “considerable research evidence suggests that overly positive self-evaluations, exaggerated perceptions of control or mastery, and unrealistic optimism are characteristic of normal human thought.” They added that “positive illusions may be especially useful when an individual receives negative feedback or is otherwise threatened.” They warned, though, of inherent risks and limitations: “For example, a falsely positive sense of accomplishment may lead people to pursue careers and interests for which they are ill-suited.”

Peale’s cheery, simple tips allowed Trump’s father to alleviate his anxieties and mitigate the effects of his innately awkward, dour disposition. Emboldened, Fred Trump banked hundreds of millions of dollars building single-family houses and then immense apartment buildings in New York’s outer boroughs. Peale appealed to the elder Trump, too, because both men embraced conservative, right-wing, us-versus-them politics—an important but often forgotten portion of Peale’s M.O.

A generation down, Peale appealed to Donald Trump because Trump idolized his father, and because what Fred Trump drilled into his most eager, most ambitious, most like-minded son—be a killer; be a king; be a winner, not a loser—is what made that son so receptive to the teachings of Peale. Born in 1946, Donald Trump’s childhood was spent in a house with white columns and nine bathrooms and a live-in maid and chauffeur in Jamaica Estates, Queens. Sometimes, when it rained or snowed, he did his paper route from the back of his father’s limousine.

Peale was far from universally popular. One psychiatrist dubbed The Power of Positive Thinking “saccharine terrorism.” And during the 1952 presidential campaign, the Democratic nominee made his feelings plain. “Speaking as a Christian,” the brainy Adlai Stevenson said at a Baptist convention in Texas, “I would like to say that I find the Apostle Paul appealing and the Apostle Peale appalling.” But Peale permanently altered the way many Americans worship. His was a precursor to the prosperity gospel espoused today by, say, the toothy Joel Osteen. “By repeatedly equating business acumen with piety, uncertainty with religious doubt, and personal and cultural failure with godlessness, Peale and his admirers helped to redefine religious Americans as socially superior winners,”

That should give you a good idea of the article.

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jeffreyw  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:21:35am

re: #69 ObserverArt
That article is a good example of this thinking. The author wants it to be true.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:23:18am

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹

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What in the hell.

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JordanRules  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:28:51am

re: #62 Anymouse 🌹

It’s gone for me on mobile. There is a difference in how web and mobile versions cache and that accounts for the difference in when something disappears for someone on the site (whether they have an account or not).

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:30:34am

re: #71 HappyWarrior

What in the hell.

Representative Diane Black was an emergency room nurse. However, conservative libertarian religion trumps “do no harm.”

You would be unsurprised to learn that healthcare businesses are her biggest donors.

opensecrets.org

She lives in a district that went about 70% to her. It is unlikely she would be unseated without a wave election of Democrats.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:33:16am

re: #73 Anymouse 🌹

Representative Diane Black was an emergency room nurse. However, conservative libertarian religion trumps “do no harm.”

You would be unsurprised to learn that healthcare businesses are her biggest donors.

opensecrets.org

She lives in a district that went about 70% to her. It is unlikely she would be unseated without a wave election of Democrats.

No, I know. It’s just JFC. I mean the whole “Let’s coddle businesses that refuse to serve LGBT people” was bad enough but this. This is unfrigging real. What’s next? A bill that would allow the cops or fire departments to choose not to help you?

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JordanRules  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:33:39am

re: #69 ObserverArt

Bookmarking to dig into later. Im fascinated by any peeks we can get into 45s childhood and family.

Toothy Joel Osteen gave me a nice chuckle!

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:34:32am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

That is what they are trying to achieve. Everyone must bow to them.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:35:28am

re: #76 PhillyPretzel

That is what they are trying to achieve. Everyone must bow to them.

I don’t even know the word for this ideology. It’s something that combines the worst of Objectivism and a theocracy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:36:46am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

No, I know. It’s just JFC. I mean the whole “Let’s coddle businesses that refuse to serve LGBT people” was bad enough but this. This is unfrigging real. What’s next? A bill that would allow the cops or fire departments to choose not to help you?

That would be libertarianism … “Sir before we can put the fire out we will need either your insurance or credit card information …”

See also the book Jennifer Government, a murder mystery that becomes more political intrigue. I ordered it on interlibrary loan some years ago to read; while dated (it shows the Soviet Union as still in existence for example), the book is a very good example of how libertarian governance would actually work.

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JordanRules  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:37:55am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:39:02am

re: #78 Anymouse 🌹

That would be libertarianism … “Sir before we can put the fire out we will need either your insurance or credit card information …”

See also the book Jennifer Government, a murder mystery that becomes more political intrigue. I ordered it on interlibrary loan some years ago to read; while dated (it shows the Soviet Union as still in existence for example), the book is a very good example of how libertarian governance would actually work.

Well they’re very pick and choose when it comes to their libertarianism.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:43:32am

good fucking grief…

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:45:27am

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

The World According to Trump. I rather have The World According to Garp.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:45:45am

re: #80 HappyWarrior

Well they’re very pick and choose when it comes to their libertarianism.

Yup. Socialism for us, bootstraps for you. And, we’ll charge you for the bootstraps (see college loans).

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:45:51am

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief…

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Another day, another Trump whine tweet. I’d think by now that even his supporters would get tired of this shit but I guess not.

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Woods Witch  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:46:42am

Every so often I wander over to the dark side to see what the denizens at FR are up to. I never stay long; just a quick recon.

Lately I’ve noticed many have stopped calling themselves conservatives. Instead they prefer the label “normals”. The good Christians of the heartland who, long ago, abandoned the true teachings of the Bible. The citizens of down-at-heel towns who voted for Trump because he sold the snake oil they so desperately want to believe is effective. The good ol’ southern boys who so despised being governed by a black man that they will cheer the dismantling of the very programs they benefit from. The closeted bigots bitterly clinging to the remnants of failed rebellion. These are what the far right now consider to be “normal Americans”.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:46:58am

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹

Yup. Socialism for us, bootstraps for you. And, we’ll charge you for the bootstraps (see college loans).

Seriously. They hate the government when they need it i.e. their districts being hit by disaster but God forbid someone else need help. Disgusting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:47:04am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:47:38am

His Keystone XL Pipeline approval doesn’t mean crap as long as TransCanada still can’t get a route across Nebraska. As long as our state stands in the way, they won’t be completing that project. (TransCanada lost in our state supreme court because the legislature violated the state constitution in approving a route. The legislature is uninterested in giving TransCanada the time of day now.)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:47:56am

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Conservtism certainly is a bizarre cult.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:49:19am

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

She probably objects to being pictured next to Ana Navarro.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:51:19am

So this happened last night, and I passed through 3 flooded underpasses to get there. lol

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ObserverArt  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:51:28am

re: #70 jeffreyw

That article is a good example of this thinking. The author wants it to be true.

You seem to be saying the author hopes his facts might be true because he wants them to be true.

I think this little part of the article touches on what the article wants to achieve, to me at least.

Short-term. Trump’s version of his own reality, some insist, ultimately will crash against something more real. “In the end, I think reality is like gravity. It exerts its own force,” said Peter Wehner, a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center and a consistent conservative critic of Trump. “The power of positive thinking can only carry you so far.”

He offered an example. “I could use the power of positive thinking and convince myself that I’m going to be the starting center for the Golden State Warriors,” Wehner said, “but it’s not going to happen.”

To carry this metaphor a small step forward, though, Trump is actually currently the starting center for the Golden State Warriors. (He’s definitely not Stephen Curry.) Wehner granted that. “And his supporters,” he said, “probably think he’s scoring 25 points and a game and averaging 11 rebounds.”

Trump is the Starting President of America.

What are his stats?

Is all the positive thinking that could have gotten him in the office helping or hurting America in the case it got us Trump and is it helping Trump learn and be effective once he got the job? Or, is it a hinderance and now becoming a negative?

I think that is the debate of the article. But again, it is just my interpretation.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:52:28am

re: #69 ObserverArt

I remember all too well how Peale shot his mouth off in the 1960 Presidential campaign and attacked Kennedy for being a Catholic. That was when the whole world saw what a bigot Norman Vincent Peale was.

Here’s a reminder for those who either were not born or who need to remember from Wikipedia:

Peale was invited to attend a strategy conference of about thirty evangelicals in Montreux, Switzerland, by its host, the well-known evangelist Billy Graham, in mid-August 1960. There they agreed to kick off a group called The National Conference of Citizens for Religious Freedom in Washington the following month. On September 7, Peale served as its chairman and spoke for 150 Protestant clergymen, opposing the election of John F. Kennedy as president.[30] “Faced with the election of a Catholic,” Peale declared, “our culture is at stake.”[26] In a written manifesto Peale and his group also declared JFK would serve the interests of the Catholic Church before the interests of the United States: “It is inconceivable that a Roman Catholic president would not be under extreme pressure by the hierarchy of his church to accede to its policies with respect to foreign interests,” and that the election of a Catholic might even end free speech in America.[26] Protestant theologian Reinhold Niebuhr responded “Dr. Peale and his associates … show blind prejudice.”[26] Protestant Episcopal Bishop James Pike echoed Niebuhr: “Any argument which would rule out a Roman Catholic just because he is Roman Catholic is both bigotry and a violation of the constitutional guarantee of no religious test for public office.”[31] The Peale statement was further condemned by former President Harry Truman, the Board of Rabbis, and other leading Protestants such as Paul Tillich and John C. Bennett.[31] Peale recanted his statements and was later fired by his own committee. As conservative William F. Buckley succinctly described the fallout: “When … The Norman Vincent Peale Committee was organized, on the program that a vote for Kennedy was a vote to repeal the First Amendment to the Constitution, the Jesuits fired their Big Bertha, and Dr. Peale fled from the field, mortally wounded.”[32] Peale subsequently went into hiding and threatened to resign from his church.[33] The fallout continued as Peale was condemned in a statement by one hundred religious leaders and dropped as a syndicated columnist by a dozen newspapers.[33] After the uproar the pastor backed off from further formal partisan commitments.

Oh and this was when Mom started to sour on Billy Graham KKKraKKKer, too! Graham was Peale’s partner in spreading the anti-Catholic shit.

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Nyet  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:52:49am

So the Twitter doesn’t care even when its owner receives terrorist threats.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:53:38am

re: #94 Nyet

They are more concerned with $$$.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:54:15am

re: #94 Nyet

So the Twitter doesn’t care even when its owner receives terrorist threats.

It’s how a Libertarian enterprise operates!

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ObserverArt  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:54:18am

re: #82 PhillyPretzel

The World According to Trump. I rather have The World According to Garp.

The Power of Positive Thinking!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:56:38am

re: #97 ObserverArt

The Power of Positive ThinKKKing!

FIFY! 😉

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:56:41am

re: #93 Joe Bacon 🌹

I remember all too well how Peale shot his mouth off in the 1960 Presidential campaign and attacked Kennedy for being a Catholic. That was when the whole world saw what a bigot Norman Vincent Peale was.

Here’s a reminder for those who either were not born or who need to remember from Wikipedia:

Peale was invited to attend a strategy conference of about thirty evangelicals in Montreux, Switzerland, by its host, the well-known evangelist Billy Graham, in mid-August 1960. There they agreed to kick off a group called The National Conference of Citizens for Religious Freedom in Washington the following month. On September 7, Peale served as its chairman and spoke for 150 Protestant clergymen, opposing the election of John F. Kennedy as president.[30] “Faced with the election of a Catholic,” Peale declared, “our culture is at stake.”[26] In a written manifesto Peale and his group also declared JFK would serve the interests of the Catholic Church before the interests of the United States: “It is inconceivable that a Roman Catholic president would not be under extreme pressure by the hierarchy of his church to accede to its policies with respect to foreign interests,” and that the election of a Catholic might even end free speech in America.[26] Protestant theologian Reinhold Niebuhr responded “Dr. Peale and his associates … show blind prejudice.”[26] Protestant Episcopal Bishop James Pike echoed Niebuhr: “Any argument which would rule out a Roman Catholic just because he is Roman Catholic is both bigotry and a violation of the constitutional guarantee of no religious test for public office.”[31] The Peale statement was further condemned by former President Harry Truman, the Board of Rabbis, and other leading Protestants such as Paul Tillich and John C. Bennett.[31] Peale recanted his statements and was later fired by his own committee. As conservative William F. Buckley succinctly described the fallout: “When … The Norman Vincent Peale Committee was organized, on the program that a vote for Kennedy was a vote to repeal the First Amendment to the Constitution, the Jesuits fired their Big Bertha, and Dr. Peale fled from the field, mortally wounded.”[32] Peale subsequently went into hiding and threatened to resign from his church.[33] The fallout continued as Peale was condemned in a statement by one hundred religious leaders and dropped as a syndicated columnist by a dozen newspapers.[33] After the uproar the pastor backed off from further formal partisan commitments.

Oh and this was when Mom started to sour on Billy Graham KKKraKKKer, too! Graham was Peale’s partner in spreading the anti-Catholic shit.

Graham was a bigot. It’s no surprise his son is the way he is considering his Dad’s role in that and going along with Nixon’s antisemitic rants on the Nixon tapes.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:56:47am

re: #97 ObserverArt

I had a salesman who came to my door and was talking about a positive mental thinking (PMT). I gave him a response with PMS.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 7:59:33am

re: #99 HappyWarrior

Graham was a bigot. It’s no surprise his son is the way he is considering his Dad’s role in that and going along with Nixon’s antisemitic rants on the Nixon tapes.

Yes, Billy Graham KKKraKKKer proved on the Nixon tapes what an anti-Semite he is. Franky hates Muslims and gladly spread the Birther bullshit about Obama. And let’s not forget Ann who has a special hatred for LGBTQ’s.

When they sit down at the dinner table and pray to Jay-Zuss to bless their meal, I wonder which of those assholes is the biggest bigot????

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jeffreyw  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:00:28am

re: #92 ObserverArt

You seem to be saying the author hopes his facts might be true because he wants them to be true.

//Yes - I am, positively, saying that!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:01:39am

re: #101 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes, Billy Graham KKKraKKKer proved on the Nixon tapes what an anti-Semite he is. Franky hates Muslims and gladly spread the Birther bullshit about Obama. And let’s not forget Ann who has a special hatred for LGBTQ’s.

When they sit down at the dinner table and pray to Jay-Zuss to bless their meal, I wonder which of those assholes is the biggest bigot????

I dunno. Did you ever see what Adlai Stevenson said though about Peale? I find Norman Vincent Peale, appalling and Saint Paul, appealing. Not really a big fan of Saint Paul but that was good word play,

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ObserverArt  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:05:08am

re: #103 HappyWarrior

I dunno. Did you ever see what Adlai Stevenson said though about Peale? I find Norman Vincent Peale, appalling and Saint Paul, appealing. Not really a big fan of Saint Paul but that was good word play,

Some of Stevenson’s comments are in the article I linked, it is even in one of the selections I posted.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:06:51am

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Decatur Deb  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:07:53am

re: #94 Nyet

So the Twitter doesn’t care even when its owner receives terrorist threats.

It would be a hoot if some dimwit did try to follow his instruction to use ammonium nitrite in a truck bomb. “Close” nomenclature doesn’t count when screwing with hazardous materials.

en.wikipedia.org

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:10:01am

re: #106 Decatur Deb

Well, these KKKeyboard KKKomandos are more than a few fries short of a Happy Meal!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:10:50am

re: #104 ObserverArt

Some of Stevenson’s comments are in the article I linked, it is even in one of the selections I posted.

My Nana loved Adlai apparently.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:12:00am

re: #107 Joe Bacon 🌹

Well, these KKKeyboard KKKomandos are more than a few fries short of a Happy Meal!

I love the smell of a work accident in the morning.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:18:39am
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PhillyPretzel  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:21:55am

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

Let us see how he and his cronies dodge this one. I can only hope Mueller will announce his findings soon.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:22:57am

re: #105 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Belafon  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:23:32am

re: #111 PhillyPretzel

Let us see how he and his cronies dodge this one. I can only hope Mueller will announce his findings soon.

“Only Congress can decide on whether President Trump has violated the emoluments clause.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:25:26am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:27:55am

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Just as I suspected. He’s spent more time at this properties than he has at the WH.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:30:58am

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:33:25am

OFFS this is an entire family of crybabies (not including the newborn because that’s normal)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:35:00am

re: #117 The Vicious Babushka

OFFS this is an entire family of crybabies (not including the newborn because that’s normal)

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Pretty rich considering Chelsea DEFENDED his half brother when a right winger attacked him. But go ahead Fox, make it out like the left is attacking Eric’s newborn child. It’s not the kid’s fault that his Dad and grandpa are assholes.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:36:47am

The right, the people who brought you “Chelsea Clinton is the White House dog” and “Chelsea’s mother is Hillary but her father is Janet Reno” will have you know that the “left” is “attacking” the President’s family. As far as I’m concerned, Ivanka, Don Jr, and Eric made themselves fair game the minute they decided to play a big role not just in Dad’s campaign but also the collusion and undermining of this country. I don’t have a problem with Tiffany or Barron. In fact, I feel bad for Barron.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:37:19am

re: #118 HappyWarrior

Pretty rich considering Chelsea DEFENDED his half brother when a right winger attacked him. But go ahead Fox, make it out like the left is attacking Eric’s newborn child. It’s not the kid’s fault that his Dad and grandpa are assholes.

FOX Chyron: Right-Wing Jerk (D)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:37:29am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:39:16am

re: #121 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Now that was different, they were Democrats. // Seriously, it’s amazing how Fox will do the very thing and then go on to attack it as if it’s the left doing it. The depths they go honestly almost impress me with how craven they are.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:40:23am

re: #119 HappyWarrior

The right, the people who brought you “Chelsea Clinton is the White House dog” and “Chelsea’s mother is Hillary but her father is Janet Reno” will have you know that the “left” is “attacking” the President’s family. As far as I’m concerned, Ivanka, Don Jr, and Eric made themselves fair game the minute they decided to play a big role not just in Dad’s campaign but also the collusion and undermining of this country. I don’t have a problem with Tiffany or Barron. In fact, I feel bad for Barron.

Tiffany Trump appeared at Donald Trump campaign events, appeared at the RNC, &c.

If the only reason she is supporting him is that she’s afraid she would be cut out of a will, she is morally bankrupt. She did not denounce his birthirism, his cat-grabbing, his racism.

Nope, no slack for Tiffany. She benefits from the maladministration.

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Jay C  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:40:40am

re: #115 HappyWarrior

Just as I suspected. He’s spent more time at this properties than he has at the WH.

Probably not: it looks (tho that graphic is not specific) like the “days at golf” number is part of the “days at Trump properties” figure: 93 days out of 268 is 34% - which seems about right for our Shirking Yam of a Pres. Of course, he also isn’t “at the WH” when he is traveling - either abroad or domestically- I wonder just how many workdays Trump HAS spent in his office…..

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:41:28am

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹

No slack for any of them. They are all behind the uncouth one.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:41:55am

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹

Tiffany Trump appeared at Donald Trump campaign events, appeared at the RNC, &c.

If the only reason she is supporting him is that she’s afraid she would be cut out of a will, she is morally bankrupt. She did not denounce his birthirism, his cat-grabbing, his racism.

Nope, no slack for Tiffany. She benefits from the maladministration.

I’m just saying. I’m not going to attack her the way I feel Ivanka and the older sons are fari game. It’s not about giving her slack. It’s that the other three deserve more grief.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:42:36am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:42:52am

re: #124 Jay C

Probably not: it looks (tho that graphic is not specific) like the “days at golf” number is part of the “days at Trump properties” figure: 93 days out of 268 is 34% - which seems about right for our Shirking Yam of a Pres. Of course, he also isn’t “at the WH” when he is traveling - either abroad it domestically- I wonder just how many workdays Trump HAS spent in his office…..

Ah true. Overlap. Honestly, I can’t remember the last weekend he was at the WH. He really seems to think this is a 5 day job where he can just golf on the weekends.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:43:17am

re: #127 Stanley Sea

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Glad he’s so hard at work.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:44:07am

re: #127 Stanley Sea

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So is he going to score a “73” again like he “did” against Miss Lindsay?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:46:04am

re: #126 HappyWarrior

I’m just saying. I’m not going to attack her the way I feel Ivanka and the older sons are fari game. It’s not about giving her slack. It’s that the other three deserve more grief.

Not for me. That she isn’t as much in the eye of the press and hasn’t grifted as much (or anything) from the government is sort of like being a “little bit pregnant” or “a little bit morally bankrupt.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:46:45am
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Thanos  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:48:25am

re: #5 Birth Control Works

The OA., Stranger Things season II in 12 days, might want to rebinge season 1, The Ozarks was also surprisingly good.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:49:03am

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹

Not for me. That she isn’t as much in the eye of the press and hasn’t grifted as much (or anything) from the government is sort of like being a “little bit pregnant” or “a little bit morally bankrupt.”

Well that’s your individual choice. I’m not saying you shouldn’t criticize her. I’m merely stating that Don Jr, Eric, and Ivanka bother me far more.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:50:35am

re: #134 HappyWarrior

Well that’s your individual choice. I’m not saying you shouldn’t criticize her. I’m merely stating that Don Jr, Eric, and Ivanka bother me far more.

I agree with you in the sense that they are holding quasi-government positions and are in a far better position to do harm (or good).

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:50:41am

re: #132 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Yeah. I’ve seen the ad a few times on TV now, Joe. It’s a modern Willie Horton. Unfortunately, this state is still right wing enough in some areas where it could work. I think Ralph’s going to hold on. Gillespie is pathetic. I mean as bad as Stewart is, at least he’s honest about what he is. Gillespie acted like he hated xenophobia but is now going for it to sure up the Stewart voters who hate his guts because he’s GOP establishment all the way.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:51:33am

re: #135 Anymouse 🌹

I agree with you in the sense that they are holding quasi-government positions and are in a far better position to do harm (or good).

Right. To be honest, Ivanka disgusts me the most because she tries to portray herself as a kind and moral person when we know she’s a chip off the old block in so many ways.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:53:47am

re: #137 HappyWarrior

Right. To be honest, Ivanka disgusts me the most because she tries to portray herself as a kind and moral person when we know she’s a chip off the old block in so many ways.

cough-cough child labour.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:55:31am

re: #138 Anymouse 🌹

cough-cough child labour.

Child labor and all sorts of shady business practices. But hey she pretends like she cares about climate change, immigrants, and LGBT people so she must be okay.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:56:31am

re: #21 goddamnedfrank

Avoid Star Trek Beyond. I saw it last night and it was awful.

I’ll bet it’s not as bad as Star Trek: Discovery.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:56:52am

re: #139 HappyWarrior

Off-topic, I looked at your photo in your profile … you’re quite a cute little tyke. /s

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:57:32am

re: #141 Anymouse 🌹

Off-topic, I looked at your photo in your profile … you’re quite a cute little tyke. /s

Ha. Need to get a new one since she’s grown since then.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:58:31am

re: #117 The Vicious Babushka

OFFS this is an entire family of crybabies (not including the newborn because that’s normal)

Who cares about Eric’s newborn baby? I mean really now. There are millions of newborn babies who are going to have parents without healthcare because of Trump. There are millions of newborn babies suffering in Puerto Rico because of Trump.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 15, 2017 • 8:59:11am

So I was scouring a shelf for an unneeded binder and ran across Reality Bites, a cookbook for the lizard minions of 2010

Jaunte your artwork is amazing.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:00:41am

re: #121 Joe Bacon 🌹

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:00:53am

re: #143 Patricia Kayden

Who cares about Eric’s newborn baby? I mean really now. There are millions of newborn babies who are going to have parents without healthcare because of Trump. There are millions of newborn babies suffering in Puerto Rico because of Trump.

Eric and his wife really want to make it out that the left is going to attack their child. TBH I didn’t even know Lara was pregnant nor do I really care. I got nothing against the newborn despite the lame narrative Pirro is trying to create.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:02:00am

re: #145 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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That alone should have made Limbaugh someone Republicans would avoid but nope they went and made him an icon. Joke’s on Rush though. Chelsea’s a beautiful and attractive woman and Rush is still physically and internally a troll of a man.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:04:17am

re: #147 HappyWarrior

That alone should have made Limbaugh someone Republicans would avoid but nope they went and made him an icon. Joke’s on Rush though. Chelsea’s a beautiful and attractive young woman and Rush is still physically and internally a troll of a man.

And let’s not forget how he sent his “maid” on an errand to buy his Oxycontin. Rush is a sick junky who also loves to pop Viagra when he goes on vacation in the Dominican Republic!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:05:02am

re: #148 Joe Bacon 🌹

And let’s not forget how he sent his “maid” on an errand to buy his Oxycontin. Rush is a sick junky who also loves to pop Viagra when he goes on vacation in the Dominican Republic!

He’s such a fraud.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:05:36am

re: #149 HappyWarrior

He’s such a fraud.

Yes but Jay-Zuss forgives him because he’s Republican!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:08:10am

re: #150 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes but Jay-Zuss forgives him because he’s Republican!

I just love how the RR hates Carter but loves Trump. Goes to show you their moral standards are huh. A Sunday teacher married to the same woman for 71 years who builds houses for poor people even well into his 90’s and after having cancer or a a guy on his third marriage who bragged about grabbing women by the pussy. I bet these RR leaders got all sorts of demons in their closets.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:08:32am

re: #150 Joe Bacon 🌹

They are praying to a false deity. They have no idea what a real religion is or can be.

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Skip Intro  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:10:22am

re: #117 The Vicious Babushka

OFFS this is an entire family of crybabies (not including the newborn because that’s normal)

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No one has done what Judge Ducklips alleges, but that doesn’t matter. Now it’s out there that the “media” is attacking Eric’s kid, and it’s an OUTRAGE!!!!!!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:10:38am

re: #151 HappyWarrior

I just love how the RR hates Carter but loves Trump. Goes to show you their moral standards are huh. A Sunday teacher married to the same woman for 71 years who builds houses for poor people even well into his 90’s and after having cancer or a a guy on his third marriage who bragged about grabbing women by the pussy. I bet these RR leaders got all sorts of demons in their closets.

Every one of those Pulpit Pimps have something in their KKKloset! All of them are liars and crooks living on their tax-free grifting!

re: #152 PhillyPretzel

They are praying to a false deity. They have no idea what a real religion is or can be.

Their God is Ayn Rand.

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Skip Intro  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:15:23am

re: #129 HappyWarrior

Glad he’s so hard at work.

He does plenty of damage the four days a week he’s in DC.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:16:04am

re: #155 Skip Intro

He does plenty of damage the four days a week he’s in DC.

True.

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JordanRules  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:17:03am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:17:04am

re: #155 Skip Intro

He does plenty of damage the four days a week he’s in DC.

Makes me yearn for the time Dumbya was in the White House and wouldn’t let anyone bother him while Knight Rider reruns were on the TV…

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Skip Intro  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:18:20am

re: #127 Stanley Sea

Notice that trump has his caddie ride in the back of the cart just to fill trump’s divots.

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JordanRules  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:19:40am
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Jay C  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:23:10am

re: #153 Skip Intro

No one has done what Judge Ducklips alleges, but that doesn’t matter. Now it’s out there that the “media” is attacking Eric’s kid, and it’s an OUTRAGE!!!!!!

And one really has to wonder just who “the media” or “the left” who are “attacking Eric’s newborn” are meant to be? I realize, of course, that creating a phony “victimization narrative” is the purpose here, like most everything Fox does, but what sort of “proof” might Jeanine Pirro, or any of her fellow-creatures be able to produce to bolster these allegations? Some Random Guy On A Blog Somewhere posted something nasty? Or some Twitter egg with five followers suggested sacrificing little Luke to Moloch, or whatever….?

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JordanRules  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:32:15am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:34:22am
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Skip Intro  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:34:43am

Almost half of Republicans want war with North Korea, a new poll says

There was a pretty striking finding in Thursday’s Quinnipiac University poll: Fully 46 percent of Republicans - a plurality - said they would support a preemptive strike against North Korea.

That’s nearly half of President Donald Trump’s party that is ready for war - today - with Kim Jong Un, his nuclear weapons and all. (Forty-one percent said they opposed a pre-emptive strike.)

It’s no surprise that Republicans are more hawkish on this than Democrats are; that’s generally the case on foreign policy. But basically nobody is talking about the prospect of a strike right now. Even when Trump talks about it, he’s responding to North Korea threatening the United States or its allies.

Yet it also seems possible that Trump’s ramped-up rhetoric on this could be having an effect on his base. Trump in August promised “fire and fury” if North Korea ran afoul of him. Last month, he threatened in his speech at the United Nations to “totally destroy” the country - a threat that seemed to tie average North Koreans to their government’s demise. He has repeatedly called Kim “Rocket Man” and generally proved fond of the kind of saber-rattling we expect from the other side of this standoff.

Read more here: sanluisobispo.com

This is what happens when a party full of idiots takes over the government. I have no idea on how to stop them.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:37:29am

re: #164 Skip Intro

And the half of RepubliKKKlans that want war with North Korea are too chicken to go into the recruiting stations to fight it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:38:39am

re: #164 Skip Intro

Almost half of Republicans want war with North Korea, a new poll says

Read more here: sanluisobispo.com

This is what happens when a party full of idiots takes over the government. I have no idea on how to stop them.

It all sounds so rhetorically good: standing up to tyrants and all.

Unfortunately, that scenario overlooks the fact that North Korea could totally trash our allies in South Korea using only the conventional weapons it has at its disposal right now…

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:38:52am

So President “Gish Gallop” and his equally mendacious offspring are continuing to distract us from the real damage he is inflicting on this country — from destroying the federal judiciary to dragging his feet on helping Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands to destroying health care to …. Please let me wake up from this nightmare of 2017. We are living in the Biff parallel timeline with no way to return to the real world.

OTOH — what did our parents, grandparents, or great grandparents think when they were facing WWI or the influenza pandemic or the Great Depression or WWII? Some of us feared nuclear war when younger or had friends sent to Vietnam or saw the upheavals during the 1960’s and 70’s. Maybe we will pull through this after all. As long as we keep fighting and not let ourselves get enmeshed in despair.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:41:26am

re: #166 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It all sounds so rhetorically good: standing up to tyrants and all. It overlooks the fact that North Korea could totally trash our allies in South Korea using the conventional weapons it has at its disposal right now…

And a preemptive attack from us will mean war with China, not just NK

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Nyet  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:41:50am
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Eventual Carrion  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:44:48am

re: #169 Nyet

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Should at least be an 11 hour grilling of tRump about Niger.

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JordanRules  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:46:10am

I was just thinking about watching The Wonder Years. I watched it sporadically when it was on, but never gave it my full attention.

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Alephnaught  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:47:28am

re: #69 ObserverArt

“Speaking as a Christian,” the brainy Adlai Stevenson said at a Baptist convention in Texas, “I would like to say that I find the Apostle Paul appealing and the Apostle Peale appalling.”

Got to admit, that’s a pretty good line.

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Jay C  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:51:25am

re: #170 Eventual Carrion

Should at least be an 11 hour grilling of tRump about Niger.

Why? You think he knows any more about what US troops are doing in Niger than the general public*? IOW, nothing?

* vs. public generals: who should know….

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:52:41am

re: #167 Hecuba’s daughter

So President “Gish Gallop” and his equally mendacious offspring are continuing to distract us from the real damage he is inflicting on this country — from destroying the federal judiciary to dragging his feet on helping Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands to destroying health care to …. Please let me wake up from this nightmare of 2017. We are living in the Biff parallel timeline with no way to return to the real world.

OTOH — what did our parents, grandparents, or great grandparents think when they were facing WWI or the influenza pandemic or the Great Depression or WWII? Some of us feared nuclear war when younger or had friends sent to Vietnam or saw the upheavals during the 1960’s and 70’s. Maybe we will pull through this after all. As long as we keep fighting and not let ourselves get enmeshed in despair.

Exactly.

The way authoritarian states establish themselves is to try to overwhelm the populace with so many things at once, the populace despairs of returning to normalcy.

Those authoritarians who fail do so because those who would oppose them do not allow said authoritarians to overwhelm them with bullshit.

Things such as the Women’s March on Washington, the March for Science, &c show that the authoritarians and Christian fascists have opposition numbering in the tens of millions.

Aside from running for office or supporting someone who will oppose authoritarianism, the goal should be to focus on one or a few things which you can oppose. Others will deal with other things. Hillary Clinton’s campaign slogan of “Stronger Together” is actually a good blueprint for opposing Christian fascism under Mike Pence or authoritarianism under Donald Trump.

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:55:36am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

Shhh! Don’t give ‘em any ideas!

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Dave In Austin  Oct 15, 2017 • 9:59:59am

Sigh……..
The Secretary of State says President Trump is “not seeking to go to war.”
huffingtonpost.com

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sagehen  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:02:07am

re: #103 HappyWarrior

I dunno. Did you ever see what Adlai Stevenson said though about Peale? I find Norman Vincent Peale, appalling and Saint Paul, appealing. Not really a big fan of Saint Paul but that was good word play,

“Mr Stevenson, all thinking people will vote for you.”
“That won’t be sufficient, ma’am. I need a majority.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:03:06am

I need to cut out for a little bit … I need to go to the general store and supply my vices (cigarettes, lotto tickets, the usual stuff I do when church is in session across the street).

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Alephnaught  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:03:26am
I just love how the RR hates Carter but loves Trump. Goes to show you their moral standards are huh. A Sunday teacher married to the same woman for 71 years who builds houses for poor people even well into his 90’s and after having cancer or a a guy on his third marriage who bragged about grabbing women by the pussy. I bet these RR leaders got all sorts of demons in their closets.

I’ve often wondered if the real reason all these RR types publicly make a big deal about their faith is that if they didn’t, one would have to judge them by their actions, which, to put it mildly, would raise questions about how Christian they really are.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:03:45am

re: #177 sagehen

“Mr Stevenson, all thinking people will vote for you.”
“That won’t be sufficient, ma’am. I need a majority.”

I remember my dad saying that even though he didn’t vote for Adlai Stevenson, he regarded him as “the smartest man who ever ran for President, and if he’d won, America would’ve been in great hands nonetheless”.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:04:22am

For any Supernatural fans, I just ran across this from Comicon San Diego.
ew.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:08:56am

HAV MOAR OUTRAGE

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ObserverArt  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:10:09am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

Eric and his wife really want to make it out that the left is going to attack their child. TBH I didn’t even know Lara was pregnant nor do I really care. I got nothing against the newborn despite the lame narrative Pirro is trying to create.

It’s all cover for Trump.

Babies are great for making granddaddy appear to be human.

How can a man that is making America Great and suffering all these nasty things being said about him have such a cute little grandbaby?

He’s not an ogre like Harvey Weinstein and all the liberals

Isn’t that how Fox works?

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:12:45am

re: #182 The Vicious Babushka

There goes freedom of expression out the window.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:13:48am

re: #176 Dave In Austin

Sigh……..
The Secretary of State says President Trump is “not seeking to go to war.”
huffingtonpost.com

Nobody seeks to go to war, but starting at 5.45, we will return fire!!!

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ObserverArt  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:14:10am

re: #153 Skip Intro

No one has done what Judge Ducklips alleges, but that doesn’t matter. Now it’s out there that the “media” is attacking Eric’s kid, and it’s an OUTRAGE!!!!!!

And that is the other side of the Fox playbook.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:14:28am

re: #182 The Vicious Babushka

College Halloween Costume Guide Says No Indian Headdresses, But Ridiculing Trump Fine

Because being Trump is a choice…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:15:06am

re: #182 The Vicious Babushka

HAV MOAR OUTRAGE

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Waaah.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:15:36am

re: #187 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because being Trump is a choice…

And Trumps weren’t victims of genocide.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:18:38am

More from last night’s show I caught.

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jeffreyw  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:23:21am

Eat More Chicken

Imgur

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:35:33am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:35:56am

re: #191 jeffreyw

Eat More Chicken

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The slogan of every steer in our county.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:39:27am
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PhillyPretzel  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:40:42am

re: #194 Anymouse 🌹

Of course. Don’t read this book but continue to look at that flag. /

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:41:36am

re: #195 PhillyPretzel

Of course. Don’t read this book but continue to look at that flag. /

I think you could have left the sarcasm slant out. That’s exactly what they mean, no sarcasm.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:42:29am

re: #196 Anymouse 🌹

True. But some others might not have caught it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:43:06am

re: #194 Anymouse 🌹

From Wiki:

The flag of the state of Mississippi was first adopted by the U.S. state of Mississippi in April 1894, replacing the unofficial flag that had been adopted in 1861 when Mississippi was a Confederate state. The flag was subsequently repealed in 1906 but remained in de facto use. When a referendum failed for a new design in April 2001, the state legislature voted to readopt the historic design that same month.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:46:05am

Conservatives don’t care about that though, there is no foetus to protect.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:46:36am

Oops, left out the link:

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sagehen  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:47:31am

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A great tweet I somehow missed last week, would not have found but for that article.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:53:46am

WE WILL WIN THE WAR ON CHRISTMAS EVEN IF WE HAVE TO USE NUKES ON THE “HAPPY HOLIDAYS” SAYERS!!!1!!1!!1!

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:55:17am

re: #202 The Vicious Babushka

Are they going to nuke you and me because we say “Happy Chanukah?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:56:06am

re: #203 PhillyPretzel

Are they going to nuke you and me because we say “Happy Chanukah?”

It’s Judeo-Christian!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:56:46am

re: #202 The Vicious Babushka

Trump to Values Voter Summit: “We are stopping cold the attacks on Judeo-Christian values…We’re saying ‘merry Christmas’ again.”

Say what you want about his governing skills, he knows how to work a room…

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:56:48am
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PhillyPretzel  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:57:26am

re: #204 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

With emphasis on Christian and little or no mention of Judaism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:58:53am

re: #207 PhillyPretzel

With emphasis on Christian and little or no mention of Judaism.

They had their chance…

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 10:59:31am

re: #201 sagehen

A great tweet I somehow missed last week, would not have found but for that article.

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Can I haz cabinet post now? I immediately came up with the right answer… .

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JordanRules  Oct 15, 2017 • 11:03:25am

re: #206 The Vicious Babushka

SNL did a good take last night.

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jeffreyw  Oct 15, 2017 • 11:04:40am

re: #209 Anymouse 🌹

You can haz veteran’s affairs. I signed up for the PX online store yesterday through the vet verify site, had to send them my 214, I think I have had the only extant copy - the records office burned down in the ’70s iirc.

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ObserverArt  Oct 15, 2017 • 11:07:45am

re: #206 The Vicious Babushka

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That bit about all Holidays matter was said on last night’s SNL Weekend Update by Michael Che.

Weekend Update on Harvey Weinstein - SNL

Che’s bit on Christmas is at about the 3:00 minute mark.

Edit. Dagnabbit. Finding the video took time and Jordan already posted it.

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jeffreyw  Oct 15, 2017 • 11:09:37am

re: #211 jeffreyw

And I’m wrong on the records, the affected file range(pdf) is too early to have caught mine.

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 15, 2017 • 11:10:10am

re: #130 Joe Bacon 🌹

So is he going to score a “73” again like he “did” against Miss Lindsay?

Must be a lot of 12 foot “gimme” putts.

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Belafon  Oct 15, 2017 • 11:11:03am

re: #184 PhillyPretzel

There goes freedom of expression out the window.

Naaah. That’s just another failed attempt of the right to shut down free speech.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 11:16:26am

re: #211 jeffreyw

You can haz veteran’s affairs. I signed up for the PX online store yesterday through the vet verify site, had to send them my 214, I think I have had the only extant copy - the records office burned down in the ’70s iirc.

I’m glad I was able to get you the information to sign up for the Exchange. I’m good for something around here.

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sagehen  Oct 15, 2017 • 11:20:25am

Samuel L Jackson says Donald Trump cheats at golf.

Youtube Video

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 11:23:18am
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sagehen  Oct 15, 2017 • 11:24:35am

re: #217 sagehen

Samuel L Jackson says Donald Trump cheats at golf.

Anthony Anderson backs up this story.

Anthony Anderson: Donald Trump Cheats at Golf - Late Night with Seth Meyers

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makeitstop  Oct 15, 2017 • 11:26:47am

Funny cuz it’s true.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 15, 2017 • 11:29:47am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 11:33:06am

There is always a Trump tweet in opposition to what someone says … in this case Richard Painter’s one-question IQ test above:

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JordanRules  Oct 15, 2017 • 11:40:05am

Le sigh.

Black man who wielded flamethrower during white nationalist rally in Charlottesville is arrested

latimes.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 11:42:51am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 15, 2017 • 11:44:54am

re: #223 JordanRules

Le sigh.

Black man who wielded flamethrower during white nationalist rally in Charlottesville is arrested

We have flamethrowers!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 11:45:23am

That she actually had to confirm this shows how morally bankrupt the maladministration is:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 15, 2017 • 11:47:35am

re: #226 Anymouse 🌹

I’ve personally confirmed with Acting DHS Secretary Elaine Duke that ICE will not be conducting immigration enforcement in impacted areas

There will be plenty of people taking them to task for being derelict in their duties…

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Bass Reeves  Oct 15, 2017 • 11:52:04am

re: #171 JordanRules

I got 15 secs in and started crying. NOT COOL.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 11:53:02am

re: #227 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There will be plenty of people taking them to task for being derelict in their duties…

They are in that Twitter thread.

Additionally, ICE did raids on shelters during Hurricane Harvey. They lied then, there is no reason to believe they are not lying now.

Apparently to the conservative commentators (or rodent copulators from out of the country), being undocumented carries the death penalty by fire.

I believe they call that “compassionate conservatism” (which is exactly why I have never been a conservative).

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sagehen  Oct 15, 2017 • 11:53:41am

re: #228 Bass Reeves

I got 15 secs in and started crying. NOT COOL.

I got one that will make you cry even harder.

Say Hey (I Love You)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 15, 2017 • 11:53:49am

re: #229 Anymouse 🌹

They are in that Twitter thread.

Additionally, ICE did raids on shelters during Hurricane Harvey. They lied then, there is no reason to believe they are not lying now.

Apparently to the conservative commentators (or rodent copulators from out of the country), being undocumented carries the death penalty by fire.

I believe they call that “compassionate conservatism” (which is exactly why I have never been a conservative).

They are showing Compassion for the Letter of the Law, I guess.

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gocart mozart  Oct 15, 2017 • 11:58:32am

re: #225 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Has the klansmen who fired a shot at him been arrested for attempted murder yet?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 15, 2017 • 11:59:23am

re: #232 gocart mozart

Has the klansmen who fired a shot at him been arrested for attempted murder yet?

He was Standing His Ground, I guess…

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JordanRules  Oct 15, 2017 • 12:00:10pm

re: #228 Bass Reeves

Sorry! I’d say about 15 seconds for me too.

We have to be able to do that again as a country. We just have to.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 12:00:16pm

re: #231 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are showing Compassion for the Letter of the Law, I guess.

Not even that. Failure to present at a customs house (the actual law in question) carries the penalty of a fine and deportation, and is considered a civil offence (similar to a traffic ticket).

The only time it is a crime is if the point of avoiding a customs house is for smuggling (whether goods or people).

No sane nation would jail people who cross a border without proper permission: Jails cost a ton of money.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 12:00:37pm

re: #232 gocart mozart

Has the klansmen who fired a shot at him been arrested for attempted murder yet?

He was probably the one who got him arrested!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 12:05:06pm

New regime, same as the old regime. Anyone wanna take a bet on whether Twitter means this any more than all the other times they didn’t mean it?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 12:07:50pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 15, 2017 • 12:09:16pm

V bcc”vvbbcccbbbb vv “vvbvvvvre: #236 Joe Bacon 🌹

The ‘flamethrower’ was a spray can some Nazi threw at him. He was also a home care aid protecting an elderly white man. Black men are not entitled to self defense in America.

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I cannot.  Oct 15, 2017 • 12:09:24pm

re: #237 Anymouse 🌹

Not gonna take that bet unless you offer some crazy 1,000,000:1 odds or higher…and even then, I’ll just put up $0.01

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scottslemmons  Oct 15, 2017 • 12:10:46pm

re: #237 Anymouse 🌹

New regime, same as the old regime. Anyone wanna take a bet on whether Twitter means this any more than all the other times they didn’t mean it?

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Most people are expecting Twitter to crack down on people saying Nazis should be punched — while, of course, letting the actual Nazis run free.

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JordanRules  Oct 15, 2017 • 12:12:04pm
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JordanRules  Oct 15, 2017 • 12:15:58pm

Discovery could be fun.

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Citizen K  Oct 15, 2017 • 12:31:07pm

re: #223 JordanRules

Le sigh.

Black man who wielded flamethrower during white nationalist rally in Charlottesville is arrested

latimes.com

Of course.

Watch him and Deandre Harris be the only ones to actually end up with jail time for this. Yes, even the murderer who ran down the crowd will probably get off with a slap on the wrist. Because our country is hopelessly racist and this is what happens.

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Teukka  Oct 15, 2017 • 12:31:58pm

Anyone else having issues with this page hogging CPU? Like, i get it hogging one of my 4 cores at 100%.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 15, 2017 • 12:35:38pm

Since it’s Sunday, I must share Sportsball stuff…

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William Lewis  Oct 15, 2017 • 12:35:58pm

re: #245 Teukka

Anyone else having issues with this page hogging CPU? Like, i get it hogging one of my 4 cores at 100%.

Nope. Got a Steam process eating most of my memory but no cpu hogs right now. I’m browsing in Chrome 61.

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William Lewis  Oct 15, 2017 • 12:40:04pm

re: #246 FormerDirtDart

Since it’s Sunday, I must share Sportsball stiff…

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That’s actually pretty funny.

I’d rather see them grow a pair & bring in Kaepernick. If Vince were still alive, he would. He took care of his black and his gay players even in the middle of the 60’s. A very honorable man…

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 15, 2017 • 12:40:10pm

re: #245 Teukka

Anyone else having issues with this page hogging CPU? Like, i get it hogging one of my 4 cores at 100%.

My computer’s four CPUs are averaging 30% usage, with BOINC running distributed computing projects, five tabs open here (this one, plus two YouTube videos and two Twitter feeds), and a bunch of minor programs such as my ship’s bells and NIST atomic clock reading program.

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TedStriker  Oct 15, 2017 • 12:43:55pm

re: #246 FormerDirtDart

Since it’s Sunday, I must share Sportsball stuff…

REPORT: Packers looking to trade for Dolphins QB Jay Cutler. “There’s nobody with more experience throwing to Green Bay players”

— NFL Memes (@NFL_Memes) October 15, 2017

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 12:46:31pm

re: #248 William Lewis

That’s actually pretty funny.

I’d rather see them grow a pair & bring in Kaepernick. If Vince were still alive, he would. He took care of his black and his gay players even in the middle of the 60’s. A very honorable man…

A man way ahead of his times.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 15, 2017 • 12:47:50pm
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Skip Intro  Oct 15, 2017 • 12:54:48pm

Austria Shifts To The Right As It Elects A 31-Year-Old Conservative Leader

VIENNA, Oct 15 (Reuters) - Young conservative star Sebastian Kurz is on track to become Austria’s next leader, projections of Sunday’s parliamentary election result showed, but his party is well short of a majority and could seek an alliance with the far right.

Kurz, who is just 31, campaigned on an anti-immigration platform so strict that the far-right Freedom Party (FPO) accused him of plagiarism. That appears to have succeeded in drawing some voters away from the FPO two years after Austria was swept up in Europe’s migration crisis, which boosted the FPO in polls.

Kurz’s People’s Party (OVP) is in the lead on 30.5 percent, with its current coalition partner, the Social Democrats, on 26.2 percent, just behind the FPO on 26.8 percent, a projection by pollster SORA said shortly after polls closed, based on an early count of 49 percent of non-postal ballots.

Seems like we’re going to be partying like it’s 1939 again soon.

huffingtonpost.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 15, 2017 • 12:55:30pm

re: #252 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

“I have decided that my sexual self is best preserved for private situations with those I am most intimate with. I dress modestly. I don’t act flirtatiously with men as a policy.”

Wow…she is beyond freaking clueless.

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scottslemmons  Oct 15, 2017 • 1:04:04pm

re: #253 Skip Intro

Austria Shifts To The Right As It Elects A 31-Year-Old Conservative Leader

Seems like we’re going to be partying like it’s 1939 again soon.

huffingtonpost.com

Yup. The world is about to get really unpleasant for anyone who isn’t a Nazi. Not even sure there are any safe countries left to flee to. I don’t think Denmark can hold all the non-crazies.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2017 • 1:05:30pm

re: #255 scottslemmons

Yup. The world is about to get really unpleasant for anyone who isn’t a Nazi. Not even sure there are any safe countries left to flee to. I don’t think Denmark can hold all the non-crazies.

It’s disturbing.

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mmmirele  Oct 15, 2017 • 1:06:18pm

What might happen if Britain just leaves the EU without going through the negotiations and dealing with a settlement: “Bad-tempered Brexit.” It’s worth a read because we could see the same thing here with the short-fingered vulgarian.

theguardian.com

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Citizen K  Oct 15, 2017 • 1:06:24pm

re: #255 scottslemmons

Yup. The world is about to get really unpleasant for anyone who isn’t a Nazi. Not even sure there are any safe countries left to flee to. I don’t think Denmark can hold all the non-crazies.

Sigh…so that’s pretty much it then, isn’t it? Just about total right-wing takeover of the entire fucking world.

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 15, 2017 • 1:08:52pm

re: #245 Teukka

Anyone else having issues with this page hogging CPU? Like, i get it hogging one of my 4 cores at 100%.

nope

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mmmirele  Oct 15, 2017 • 1:13:24pm

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹

Tiffany Trump appeared at Donald Trump campaign events, appeared at the RNC, &c.

If the only reason she is supporting him is that she’s afraid she would be cut out of a will, she is morally bankrupt. She did not denounce his birthirism, his cat-grabbing, his racism.

Nope, no slack for Tiffany. She benefits from the maladministration.

I have to wonder how her fellow classmates at Georgetown feel about her. I know when I was in law school, one of our classmates posed topless for Playboy’s “Girls of the Southwest Conference” (gee, I am dating myself here). We women generally gave her the side-eye. I remember she used to show up for First Amendment law, wearing a big old gold cross and sitting in the front row. I wonder what happened to her.

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scottslemmons  Oct 15, 2017 • 1:13:52pm

re: #258 Citizen K

Sigh…so that’s pretty much it then, isn’t it? Just about total right-wing takeover of the entire fucking world.

On the bright side, humanity will be extinct somewhere between 20-100 years. So most of the worst suffering will be inflicted on Nazis.

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Citizen K  Oct 15, 2017 • 1:15:54pm

re: #261 scottslemmons

On the bright side, humanity will be extinct somewhere between 20-100 years. So most of the worst suffering will be inflicted on Nazis.

That might simply be because they’ll have successfully purged the rest of us within half that time frame.

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EPR-radar  Oct 15, 2017 • 1:17:35pm

re: #252 goddamnedfrank

When a rich person gets mugged in a bad part of town, there may be some commentary to the effect that wearing a giant gold Rolex or flashing a wad of $100 bills there isn’t a very good idea, if that what actually happened. But somehow society manages this without it sinking to the level of blaming the victim. The responsibility of the robbers for their crime is always absolute, no matter what the victim did.

Rape should be handled the same way, as much as possible. Consent being a basically a ‘he said’ ‘she said’ issue does make it an intrinsically more difficult case than robbery. One reform to consider is that if the case is allowed to get into the victim’s past history, then it should be allowed to get into the accused’s past history to the same degree. Conversely, if the accused’s history is off limits, then so is the victim’s.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 15, 2017 • 1:48:30pm

re: #257 mmmirele

What might happen if Britain just leaves the EU without going through the negotiations and dealing with a settlement: “Bad-tempered Brexit.” It’s worth a read because we could see the same thing here with the short-fingered vulgarian.

theguardian.com

The UK government were just as clueless going into Brexit negotiations as DT was going into the Presidency. They could find themselves with no trade deal and only a large divorce bill.

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allegro  Oct 15, 2017 • 2:19:58pm

re: #263 EPR-radar

One reform to consider is that if the case is allowed to get into the victim’s past history, then it should be allowed to get into the accused’s past history to the same degree. Conversely, if the accused’s history is off limits, then so is the victim’s.

I cannot let this go by without comment. Bullshit. A victim’s past consensual sexual history is NEVER okay to trot out to shame or discredit her (or him) because it has no bearing whatsoever on the case. The only thing that past behavior may apply to in a rape case would be a history of proven false accusations.

Rapists are repeat offenders. The power is what gets them off. Past accusations and convictions are entirely applicable and shouldn’t be off limits. Ever.

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unproven innocence  Oct 15, 2017 • 4:54:09pm

re: #245 Teukka

Anyone else having issues with this page hogging CPU? Like, i get it hogging one of my 4 cores at 100%.

Visited the Politifact website site lately? It could be related to this (or similar).
Pulitzer-winning website Politifact hacked to mine crypto-coins in browsers
Mysterious malicious code silently chews up CPU cycles to craft cash on visitors’ dime

By Iain Thomson in San Francisco 13 Oct 2017

Until I find out otherwise, I’m blaming Putin.


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