Monday Night Acoustic Funk: Calum Graham, “Whiskey Sunrise”

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Can acoustic guitar be funky? Calum Graham makes a damned good case for the proposition.

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Shot in the Distillery District of Toronto on November 6th, 2016

Video by Joanna Glezakos
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Recorded on a Furch Baritone Guitar:
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 16, 2017 • 9:06:24pm

Went to the dermatologist today to get some skin lesions zapped with liquid nitrogen. It was cool. I asked the doctor if anyone has ever asked him whether nitrogen is dangerous. To my surprise, he said no one has. He thought it was funny that there are actually people who assume nitrogen is a dangerous pollutant, or a deadly “chemical.”
(Sneer quotes because woowoos define “chemical” as “stuff that is dangerous” to humans.)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 16, 2017 • 9:29:29pm

re: #1 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I’ve had a dermatologist work on me the same way removing skin tags with liquid nitrogen. Before the ACA it was $100 out of my pocket but with ACA it was only $10. I got a temptation that if I lose that benefit I’ll send my next dermatologist bill to The White House!

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JordanRules  Oct 16, 2017 • 9:41:14pm

From the thread next door:

re: #164 Ace Rothstein

I’ve always known Pop was an exceptional coach, but I had no idea he was so awesome as a human until fairly recently.

It’s nice when you are pleasantly surprised like that. It makes his legendary shortness with the media super endearing now.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 16, 2017 • 9:43:50pm

re: #2 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’ve had a dermatologist work on me the same way removing skin tags with liquid nitrogen. Before the ACA it was $100 out of my pocket but with ACA it was only $10. I got a temptation that if I lose that benefit I’ll send my next dermatologist bill to The White House!

Send it to McConnell and Paul Ryan. They were the ones spending years promoting the notion that they had a real health care replacement policy. A deception on par with Trump’s lies on health care.

I am hoping, very foolishly, that somehow McCain’s address this evening will actually persuade a few Republicans to do the right thing when it comes to health care, foreign policy, DACA, and impeaching or 25ing the Cheeto Benito.

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freetoken  Oct 16, 2017 • 10:12:49pm

Because I spend so much of my time doing a lot of reading (genealogy) or watching seminars (via Youtube - so much good stuff available that only get a few hundred views), I don’t watch network television (and if I want to watch a particular program I can find a stream online.)

Anyway, I’m really out of the loop of what gets consumed as “news” via television. I am on Facebook everyday so I can see what pushes the buttons of relatives and friends. I can search Google News for about any topic that comes to my mind, so its not like I am intentionally isolating myself.

Yet I do feel so remote from what appears to be consuming so many people, with whatever TV network that is hot. I can look at the daily cable ratings and see how this or that cable program is doing, but that doesn’t tell me what was the content of those hours.

I guess my point is this: about 1% of Americans turn in to watch Hannity or Tucker, slightly less to watch Maddow. The broadcast network news gets a couple of times that number of viewers. The only broadcast news program that gets a decent rating is the old standby, CBS 60 Minutes, and demographics suggest its viewers are even older than what watch Hannity.

Now I know that Nielsen supposedly has an extensive network of monitoring devices, but I have to wonder, how many of these boxes are stuck to TVs in retirement homes where the channel never changes?

I’ve got to believe that my digital consumption is probably closer to the Americans who are younger than I, than to those older than I.

I gather that religious assemblies are still the single biggest social influence in America. That is, a typical American will believe what to believe more on what they hear at Church than through any single media source.

Which all leads me to wonder what the people around me really believe, and what goes through their heads all day long. It’s easy to guess what’s going on in the head of the typical 19yo male (it will be sex every few seconds), but as people age they do start thinking about other things.

And what are those things?

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JordanRules  Oct 16, 2017 • 10:12:57pm
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JordanRules  Oct 16, 2017 • 10:18:53pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 16, 2017 • 10:39:20pm

re: #5 freetoken

Remember, “Trending on Twitter” is considered a viable news item, and those stories get reported on regardless of any inherent merit.

And then those stories wind up on a FB news feed.

Certain cynical people learned to manipulate that cycle, and that is part of the reason we are in the the mess we have to deal with today.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 16, 2017 • 11:03:38pm
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JordanRules  Oct 16, 2017 • 11:08:27pm

re: #8 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

From what I’ve read and observed…ad buys were made, bot networks deployed and paid trolls were trained to use every online space available including comment sections that existed long before the social media landscape blew up.

I still see many of the same biases in reporting that have been in effect for a long time, regardless of whether it’s trending or not.

I’ve also seen hashtags or trends create really beneficial spaces for people and resulting action.
#oscarssowhite
#disabledandcute
#blacklivesmatter

I made a comment in an earlier thread with several links that may provide a wider perspective.

Some reflections.

The Truth About Black Twitter

theatlantic.com

12 Must Follow LGBT Activists on Twitter

pride.com

How ‘Black Twitter’ and BlackLivesMatter hashtag gave voice to marginalized groups

cbc.ca

Twitter Trend #DisabledAndCute Is Empowering Disabled People

teenvogue.com

#DVpit is a Twitter event created to showcase pitches from marginalized voices that have been historically underrepresented in publishing.

dvpit.com

Twitter: A Novel Tool for Studying the Health and Social Needs of Transgender Communities.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

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freetoken  Oct 16, 2017 • 11:36:56pm

Speaking of genealogy, listening to the latest episode of the podcast Footnoting History, “Cemeteries: Washington Park Cemetery and Early 20th-Century Atlanta”:

footnotinghistory.blogspot.com

or better: footnotinghistory.com

Cemetery and burial research uncovers a lot of things about the past. Interesting to hear about life in Atlanta for black Americans in the middle 20th century, and how that is reflected not just in the cemetery but even some obits were segregated.

Cemeteries have often been a topic of interest in genealogy. A great deal can be learned by just listing at all the people buried together. While morbid, choosing final resting place, and a marker (if any) and what it should say, is often the last statement that one can put out there about oneself, for the future to interpret.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 16, 2017 • 11:39:38pm

re: #11 freetoken

I remember visiting the cemetery in Pine, Arizona and looking at the graves of the original (Mormon) settlers: a great number of them were for children aged only a few months…

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freetoken  Oct 16, 2017 • 11:48:21pm

re: #12 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I like most people (I suppose) feel a bit uneasy when going to a cemetery. Yet when I’ve gone to one and hung out there a while, I start to feel ok with it.

How we treat our dead is probably what makes us humans human. Anthropologists and archeologists pay special attention to the discoveries of how people treat the deceased. When it was discovered that some Neanderthal remains had been buried the nature of the Neanderthals changed, in our view. And that is also happening in South Africa with the Homo naledi remains, for if they were intentionally placed in the cave after death by their fellows, then does that make H. naledi “human”?

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JordanRules  Oct 16, 2017 • 11:48:29pm

re: #11 freetoken

This makes me think of the one black family that I knew of growing up in Phoenix, AZ who were very affluent - the Ragsdales.

en.m.wikipedia.org

I can imagine black morticians and the like benefiting from health and death services segregation.

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freetoken  Oct 16, 2017 • 11:51:29pm

re: #14 JordanRules

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JordanRules  Oct 16, 2017 • 11:51:29pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 16, 2017 • 11:57:40pm

re: #13 freetoken

I like most people (I suppose) feel a bit uneasy when going to a cemetery. Yet when I’ve gone to one and hung out there a while, I start to feel ok with it.

I recall taking my kids around the village cemetery on walks and pointing out whose parents or grandparents were buried there.

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JordanRules  Oct 16, 2017 • 11:58:38pm

re: #15 freetoken

Amazing!

I worked at an aerospace company here on the help desk when I was in college and I fielded a call from a gentleman with the same last name as me.

We talked for a moment about that and decided to go to lunch. My surname is not common. He was an older white gentleman and sure enough his family hailed from where my people were from in Tennessee. We knew what that likely meant and talked about it. It was a rare experience that was so impactful for us and because he was a great guy it didn’t get weird.

Whew. America.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:00:19am

Extremely well played.

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freetoken  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:02:48am

re: #18 JordanRules

Neat.

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freetoken  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:06:19am

re: #18 JordanRules

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:11:11am

re: #21 freetoken

Mind blown that we have the tools and info to do this so quickly although it sounds like you or someone in your family had done a lot of the mapping work already.

Absolutely fascinating.

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freetoken  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:19:20am

re: #22 JordanRules

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Getting back to slave owning - from the records it appears rather quickly, for anyone willing to dig around the slave schedules of the censuses, that most people did not own slaves, but if landowner did have slaves they tended to be several.

It was an economic system that was so lopsided that it was doomed to fail. That so many people deluded themselves into thinking it was defensible just shows us how easy it is for people to buy into failed ideas.

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:39:17am

re: #23 freetoken

I started the journey with the mainstream tools, no research expertise and limited resources. I hit the information wall around 1860 which is pretty normal for slave descendants. This was over half a decade ago. I know the data that has been uncovered and uploaded has increased immensely over the years. I’d previously assumed that I would have to go to TN one day to move forward. That might not be the case now for a few reasons. I really do hope I can start mapping the family out again one day.

I’m really fascinated by what you and others have found.

The pure, direct, unencumbered economic part of the system was indeed doomed to failure, but the legacy remains brutal in economic terms and so many other ways. Hide it and divide it. Definitely, definitely instructive for what we see now now in terms of justifications, delusions and religious intersections.

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freetoken  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:44:20am

re: #24 JordanRules

There remains a great deal in archives and courthouses, and that includes in Tennessee too. Fortunately, as I noted, I get the impression that many Tennesseans are interested in making records available. Unlike some states which are very closed (Oklahoma) or stingy (New Jersey, New York). Some states are very open and pro history (Virginia, Ohio, Iowa, Texas, California, Minnesota, and Washington state being my favorites for research).

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:44:47am
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:45:33am

re: #13 freetoken

I like most people (I suppose) feel a bit uneasy when going to a cemetery. Yet when I’ve gone to one and hung out there a while, I start to feel ok with it.

How we treat our dead is probably what makes us humans human. Anthropologists and archeologists pay special attention to the discoveries of how people treat the deceased. When it was discovered that some Neanderthal remains had been buried the nature of the Neanderthals changed, in our view. And that is also happening in South Africa with the Homo naledi remains, for if they were intentionally placed in the cave after death by their fellows, then does that make H. naledi “human”?

When I visit my wife’s gravesite in Lubbock, it is a strange (but not necessarily disturbing) feeling to see my plot right next to it. The headstone is already in place with only the final dates to be added. There is room for a few more remarks, for example, to turn it into a memorial if I am lost on the way to Mars or at sea or something. It is on a bluff overlooking the Yellowhouse Canyon lake and is probably the closest thing to a satisfactory natural view in Lubbock.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:52:14am

I don’t blame him. Rather reminds me of 1955 Doc in Back to the Future thinking it was a joke that Reagan was POTUS in 1985. It IS a joke but not a funny one at all.

Man Rescued from Taliban Didn’t Believe Donald Trump Was President

A Canadian man rescued from a Taliban-linked group in Afghanistan last week said he thought his captors were joking when they told him Donald Trump had been elected president of the United States.

Joshua Boyle and his wife, Caitlin Coleman, were kidnapped and held by the Haqqani network — whose leader is the deputy head of the Afghan Taliban — for five years and one day.

Boyle and Coleman were rarely given any information on the outside world during their time in captivity. They didn’t even know Justin Trudeau was prime minister of Canada, for example, until after they were rescued. But when Boyle was forced to participate in a “proof-of-life” video, one of the captors told him Donald Trump had been elected President of the United States. At the time, Boyle essentially took this comment as a joke.

“It didn’t enter my mind that he was being serious,” Boyle told the The Toronto Star.

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 1:04:13am

re: #28 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Oh yeah, Doc was incredulous. Spot on! And to push that Back to the Future reference further, we have 45 represented as Biff.

I still have a hard time believing he is occupying the Oval Office.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2017 • 1:09:58am

re: #29 JordanRules

Oh yeah, Doc was incredulous. Spot on! And to push that Back to the Future reference further, we have 45 represented as Biff.

I still have a hard time believing he is occupying the Oval Office.

“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”

― George Carlin

Now imagine a system in which the stupid half commands a majority of the Electoral College…

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 1:17:57am

re: #30 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Traffic school. Traffic school was when I first had that Carlin moment. It was a hot mess.

Gahhh! The extreme EC nightmare is here chasing us around almost every hour!! And it’s crazy because it really is hourly, not just daily.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2017 • 1:22:38am

re: #31 JordanRules

Traffic school. Traffic school was when I first had that Carlin moment. It was a hot mess.

Gahhh! The extreme EC nightmare is here chasing us around almost every hour!! And it’s crazy because it really is hourly, not just daily.

and thanks to a few smart but cynical people, the stupid half has been gerrymandered into a de facto majority in House and Senate, too…

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 1:34:02am

re: #32 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yup. They are worse than cynical, though they mix that in and empower it, too.

Gerrymandering, voter suppression, VRA hatchet job, foreign influence/election nat sec
I’m probably going to be an annoying broken record on all of that! Fair warning y’all!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2017 • 1:35:59am

re: #33 JordanRules

Yup. They are worse than cynical, though they mix that in and empower it, too.

Gerrymandering, voter suppression, VRA hatchet job, foreign influence/election nat sec
I’m probably going to be an annoying broken record on all of that! Fair warning y’all!

Voter suppression and gerrymandering were part of it: motivating their rabid base was the other. It failed them in 2012 but came back with a vengeance last year.

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 1:51:17am

re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I really believe everything I named was a significant part of it. Motivating their base definitely was too. That makes sense, especially within their extreme framing…and it’s very smart politics. But there is an amazing amount of emphasis on their “excited” base and it’s easy to see how media domination (MSM, not just new media) feeds strategy and victory narratives to reinforce it.
It failed them in 2012 and then what? Everything I mentioned was optimized to make sure it never happens again. They didn’t even get more actual people votes than we did, so I assume we motivated ours too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2017 • 1:54:16am

re: #35 JordanRules

It failed them in 2012 and then what? Everything I mentioned was optimized to make sure it never happens again. They didn’t even get more actual people votes than we did, so I assume we motivated our [base] too.

But not in the right places. I remember my girlfriend asking her sexist real-estate brother in PA about the election and his response was “Why should I vote for Hillary?”.

Now he can watch his insurance premiums rise 30%…

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 2:10:31am

re: #36 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And 6 people in Cali disagreed and voted accordingly. The ugly, racist EC system is what we have to work with though. I get that.
The factors that remain relevant for me…
Kremlin op targeted states that were right (for an EC win).
Voter suppression targeted states that were right.
VRA could no longer operate effectively in states that were right.
Gerrymandering could operate effectively in the states that were right.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2017 • 2:13:22am

re: #37 JordanRules

Michael Moore told us why, months in advance: all Trump had to do was to carry all the states they took in 2012 plus PA, OH, MI and WI, and that is what he did. Heck, he did not even need Florida.

So he concentrated on those states and won by small margins but enough to carry the EC.

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 2:31:13am

re: #38 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Indeed and how he concentrated on them is important. He didn’t even have a ground game. And why those states became important is important. Walker and Koblach, for instance, know.

The Clintons are a formidable political machine (aligned with the new Obama machine and you’re in super formidable territory) so EC ignorance only goes so far IMO. Certainly mistakes can be made by even the best, but they just can’t be considered in isolation here.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2017 • 2:32:50am

re: #39 JordanRules

The press gave him a pass on his tax returns. Any self-respecting institution should have hounded him to death over that. We really did purchase a pig in a poke: a man with no record of public service and no means of checking his record of self-service.

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 2:36:28am

re: #40 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Oh man. That pass remains particularly relevant and frustrating.
I wonder if the Dem 2020 candidate will run with that as a new norm.

*side-eyeing Mr. Sanders*

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sagehen  Oct 17, 2017 • 2:44:43am

re: #40 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

NBC couldn’t go after him hard because they thought he’d lose, and set them up for another season of The Apprentice to be a hit again. CBS couldn’t go after him hard because Mark Burnett has their 3 highest-rated shows, and he’s a Trump protector. CNN has some high-ranking execs who’d previously worked at NBC and still considered him a “friend” and former co-worker. NYT partnered with Bannon (“Clinton Cash”) on their election coverage.

And of course, if mainstream media has an obvious bias, it’s that they’re hugely enamored of SPECTACLE!! and HORSE-RACE!!

None of the mainstream media (with the exception of a couple guys at WaPo) was eager to commit journalism in 2016; Fox is pure partisan propaganda, the only journalism they’re ever interested in is when they can find a story that’s bad for the Dems.

And none of them thought it mattered, “because Hillary was going to win anyway so what’s the difference?”

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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2017 • 4:02:51am
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2017 • 4:13:45am

I had a touch of stomach virus yesterday. As I threw up I thought of Trump and this made me vomit harder.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 17, 2017 • 4:18:23am

re: #44 The Vicious Babushka

I hope you are feeling better today. I would rather have a cold for two weeks than the 24 hour creeping crud. Growing up in a family of five when one of us got it, there was only a matter of time. Just hearing “creeping crud” gives me the willies.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2017 • 4:22:08am
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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 17, 2017 • 4:27:21am

re: #11 freetoken

I get to travel quite a bit for work, running road construction jobs, and I always try to walk through the local older cemeteries. Typically in the Adirondacks, the common age to die in the early 1900’s was 18, I assume from logging. Lots of local history and sad stories. What I enjoyed most was the tombstones themselves. The different designs, many had roses in different stages of bloom, or a curtain covering a column.
graveaddiction.com
thecemeteryclub.com
What do you want on your tombstone?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 4:37:15am

sigh

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2017 • 4:41:42am
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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2017 • 4:42:10am

re: #47 Shropshire Slasher

Ashes….. Large body of water. Fishes.

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weave  Oct 17, 2017 • 4:42:55am

“CC” — What a horrible human being.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2017 • 4:53:58am

Interesting article about the reduction of opioid use in green states.
washingtonpost.com

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:06:41am

Uh oh, looks like steam will be getting some of my money.

en.wikipedia.org

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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:12:02am

Not that is will do anything but it’s the principle. Fucking asshole. Report this.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:14:00am

re: #54 Dave In Austin

Not that is will do anything but it’s the principle. Fucking asshole. Report this.

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Reported.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:14:26am

re: #51 weave

“CC” — What a horrible human being.

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Yeah, have a look at her timeline. She IS a horrible human being.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:16:51am

re: #56 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, have a look at her timeline. She IS a horrible human being.

I haven’t seen her since we blocked each other back in 2012, but she is the #2 SLUT (Stupidest Lady Using Twitter)

#1 SLUT is jjauthor, if you care to look her up, we also blocked each other back in ‘12.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:17:49am
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weave  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:18:29am

re: #56 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, have a look at here timeline. She IS a horrible human being.

It’s one thing to just be an echo chamber for Hannity and the rest of those nut jobs but to personify that hatred and ignorance and go and attack someone who lost a brother who was serving in the military is just unbelievable.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:18:46am

re: #58 The Vicious Babushka

I haven’t seen her since we blocked each other back in 2012, but she is the #2 SLUT (Stupidest Lady Using Twitter)

#1 SLUT is jjauthor, if you care to look her up, we also blocked each other back in ‘12.

I’ll take your word for it. I’d say it’s hard to imagine worse than this, but really it isn’t anymore.

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weave  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:22:02am

re: #58 The Vicious Babushka

I haven’t seen her since we blocked each other back in 2012, but she is the #2 SLUT (Stupidest Lady Using Twitter)

But did she ever “disrespect a sitting President” back then?!

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:24:28am

re: #61 Blind Frog Belly White

I’ll take your word for it. I’d say it’s hard to imagine worse than this, but really it isn’t anymore.

As I recall, jjauthor back then, and probably still now but even worse, was really down on The Poors, especially Poors of Color, being “lazy” and “on welfare & food stamps” and they should JUST GET A JOB!!!!!! even though jj herself is a rich white who never worked a day in her life, but thinks “lemonade stands” help kids become business tycoons, because she saw something like that in a Verizon commercial.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:24:47am
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:29:41am

re: #64 Dave In Austin

Cheesus!!

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Let me guess. Do they also have a “plantation slave” costume?

The company pulled the “Anne Frank” costume from their collection and apologized, and said their costumes are not specifically for Halloween but also for living history, reenactments and school presentations.

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MsJ  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:30:49am

re: #56 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, have a look at her timeline. She IS a horrible human being.

Deplorable, even.

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MsJ  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:33:51am
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I cannot.  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:36:07am

re: #51 weave

So, since I thought her line “Duly ignorant Delilia O’Malley.” seemed off, somehow, I thought I’d do a quick search on her profile picture…

Umm…interesting match
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jeffreyw  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:40:00am

Imgur

Imgur

Imgur


Good morning!

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:42:14am
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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:47:53am

...

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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:49:11am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:52:01am
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I cannot.  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:53:50am

re: #70 The Vicious Babushka

What the fuck?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:54:10am

re: #72 Dave In Austin

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Poor kid.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:54:45am

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rep.Tom Marino has informed me that he is withdrawing his name from consideration as drug czar.

Skeletons lurking in his closet, or realization that it would be better not to sign on with this shitshow of an administration?

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MsJ  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:56:26am

re: #72 Dave In Austin

Jesus Christ. Who the hell thinks of doing this to a child…a fucking 8 year old child? How twisted do you have to be do torture a child.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:56:37am

re: #76 makeitstop

Skeletons lurking in his closet, or realization that it would be better not to sign on with this shitshow of an administration?

Apparently he was outed on 60 Minutes last Sunday as the guy who pushed a bill limiting the DEA’s ability to take opioid fight to big pharma and large pharmacies.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:56:46am

re: #74 I cannot.

What the fuck?

I guess they’re supposed to swim out there.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 17, 2017 • 5:56:50am

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I thought Donnie hated tzars?

The US ones, not the Russian ones….

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 17, 2017 • 6:03:39am

If you are waking up near Los Angeles look north. The mountain a little east of Mt Wilson has about four acres burning. Spectacular in the night sky

ktla.com

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 17, 2017 • 6:05:33am

re: #72 Dave In Austin

Your argument is with the school administrator that chose to involve the police.

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William Lewis  Oct 17, 2017 • 6:08:01am

re: #72 Dave In Austin

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We left Madison for Hayward WI just before my son got into middle school down there. See, Madison has this nice big juvie facility and it would be horrible if they didn’t use it to keep all the kids of color in their places. To the point that in Madison once kids are in middle school and beyond if they get sent to the principal’s office for behavior the police are automatically called. Given that my son has some pretty major issues and did not have his a) diagnosis or b) med prescriptions correct when we left town, I can pretty much guarantee that his Vietnamese self would have spent more time in Juvie than in school (probably also then charging him with truancy on top of it!)

They finally had to cut back on that when they made the mistake of busting an A average pretty blond girl instead and infuriated all the white parents.

So, no, this doesn’t surprise me in the least. Schools nationwide do not want to do their jobs because they can’t really afford to and won’t unless you know how to use the law against them - IEP’s, threats of civil rights lawsuits, threats to their federal funding, etc.

The kid is lucky to have the photo; his family might be able to do something about it with that proof.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 6:08:38am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 6:10:10am

re: #78 Barefoot Grin

Apparently he was outed on 60 Minutes last Sunday as the guy who pushed a bill limiting the DEA’s ability to take opioid fight to big pharma and large pharmacies.

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MsJ  Oct 17, 2017 • 6:10:56am

re: #82 Shropshire Slasher

Your argument is with the school administrator that chose to involve the police.

No, the argument is with every single person involved. The admin who called the police and the police who inflicted the torture and any teachers who did not speak up. Every goddamned last one of them. They are all complicit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 6:13:45am
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2017 • 6:17:46am
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Eventual Carrion  Oct 17, 2017 • 6:24:30am

re: #60 weave

It’s one thing to just be an echo chamber for Hannity and the rest of those nut jobs but to personify that hatred and ignorance and go and attack someone who lost a brother who was serving in the military is just unbelievable.

It’s how they support the troops

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ObserverArt  Oct 17, 2017 • 6:36:40am

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

sigh

Eric Garland ✔@ericgarland
Aiming for world record hypocrisy, White House says it can use private emails and encrypted apps, no big whoop. 🖕 politico.com

So, there is going to be a huge outcry from Fox News and the rest of wingnut media over Trump making a big thing about Hillary emails and how Trump lied to them about the importance of national security and how his staff is treating security. Right?

But none of this should be surprising. They probably run Kaspersky Antivirus, so it should be no problem.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 17, 2017 • 6:37:03am

re: #54 Dave In Austin

Not that is will do anything but it’s the principle. Fucking asshole. Report this.

Found someone that grabbed a screenshot

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ObserverArt  Oct 17, 2017 • 6:40:14am

re: #51 weave

“CC” — What a horrible human being.

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CC must have had to do some additions to her Tweet bio.

I Support @realDonaldTrump God•Guns•FreedomLoving• AnthemStanding•Wife•Mom•Gram Follow My Favorites @SheriffClarke @SeanHannity @EricBolling

Anthem Standing is now an official wingnut thing!

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 17, 2017 • 6:40:39am
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Belafon  Oct 17, 2017 • 6:49:29am

Another thought on trying to get the Democratic message through. It seems that there is only enough time to talk about three things right now. So pick three:

1. Trump’s antics and mental state
2. Trump’s policies
3. The Trump administration’s corruption
4. Democratic policies

And any thing you fail to cover about Trump threatens to normalize it.

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ObserverArt  Oct 17, 2017 • 6:51:35am

re: #72 Dave In Austin

NowThis ✔@nowthisnews
VIDEO: Police in Kentucky handcuffed and arrested a *third grader* with disabilities
7:30 PM - Oct 16, 2017
1,576 1,576 Replies 4,898 4,898 Retweets 4,133 4,133 likes

I hope some school officials lost their jobs over this handcuffing incident.

They have zero understanding of youngsters with disabilities. And then calling the police to make up for your lack of understanding just added to that lack of understanding. Cops only know one thing…control and domination. That is only going to make the child more scared, confused and wanting to act out.

I bet Matt Bevin will fix this. /

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2017 • 6:54:17am

FFS

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ObserverArt  Oct 17, 2017 • 6:55:18am

re: #76 makeitstop

Skeletons lurking in his closet, or realization that it would be better not to sign on with this shitshow of an administration?

He was exposed by 60 Minutes on Sunday for his legislation proposal to protect drug companies from the DEA’s attempts to stop the big opioid problem.

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I cannot.  Oct 17, 2017 • 6:56:52am

re: #96 The Vicious Babushka

Her 2020 slogan “I fucking called EVERYTHING four years ago.”

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2017 • 7:02:16am

re: #96 The Vicious Babushka

FFS

So desperate to deflect from Trump’s shitshow that they’re rerunning the election.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 7:04:09am

particularly bad morning for the clinic escorts:

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2017 • 7:05:01am

re: #99 Belafon

So desperate to deflect from Trump’s shitshow that they’re rerunning the election.

Hillary’s response should be FUCK ALL Y’ALL, I’M GOING TO DISNEYLAND!

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 17, 2017 • 7:07:14am

So, does she qualify as an ‘Alex Jones Republican’ ?

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BeachDem  Oct 17, 2017 • 7:17:42am

re: #97 ObserverArt

He was exposed by 60 Minutes on Sunday for his legislation proposal to protect drug companies from the DEA’s attempts to stop the big opioid problem.

I believe the lovely Marsha Blackburn was his “co-host” for that legislation. (Caught five minutes of the 60Minutes segment and it was enough to piss me off royally.)

Good morning all. Been at the job since 5:45 am. Feels like midnight already and it’s only 10 am.

Caught a few glimpses of the hideous presser yesterday (the TV is on where I’m working, so have no choice.) Fortunately, they don’t have it on Fox—usually CNN or MSNBC or sports or gameshows.

The full text of his incoherent, ignorant comment about writing letters/calling dead people/being better than all previous presidents etc. just hurt my head. He is the most repulsive lifeform I have ever had the misfortune to witness.

Arggghhh

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Jay C  Oct 17, 2017 • 7:20:00am

re: #99 Belafon

So desperate to deflect from Trump’s shitshow that they’re rerunning the election.

And this is something new? Talk about your sore winners: Trump’s creatures take their clues from their boss: he has been bitching and carping about Hillary since Inauguration Day. In a sort of reversal of the debate roles, he seems to go around all the time acting like she is lurking around in back of him smirking over his shoulders. I would suggest it’s probably his guilty conscience reminding him of his being in a job he is grossly unqualified and unfit for, but then, I don’t think Donald Trump HAS a conscience.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 7:21:45am

President Donald Trump on Tuesday doubled down on his false claim that his predecessors never called the families of soldiers who were killed in combat.

In justifying his remarks, Trump pointed to his chief of staff, Gen. John Kelly, as an example of a military parent who never received a phone call from former President Barack Obama. Kelly’s son, 29-year-old Marine 1st Lt. Robert Kelly, was killed by a roadside bomb in Afghanistan in 2010.

“You could ask General Kelly if he got a call from Obama,” Trump said, according to CNN’s Kaitlan Collins.

Trump also admitted that he didn’t know precisely what Obama’s policy toward calling the families of slain soldiers was.

“I don’t know what Obama’s policy was,” he said. “I write letters and I also call. I have called, I believe, everybody.”

what an asshat

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 17, 2017 • 7:24:20am

re: #72 Dave In Austin

District personnel will only request law enforcement respond to student conduct when that conduct constitutes
an immediate and substantial threat to physical safety or serious crime. However, personnel will notify
appropriate law enforcement authorities when required by state law per KRS 158.154, which states in part
“When the principal has a reasonable belief that an act occurred on school property or at a school-sponsored
function involving assault resulting in serious physical injury, a sexual offense, kidnapping, assault involving
the use of a weapon, possession of a firearm in violation of the law, possession of a control substance in
violation of the law, or damage to property”. In addition, employees shall comply with KRS 158.155 which
requires, any “employee of a public or private school to promptly make a report to the local police department,
sheriff or the Department of Kentucky State Police if that person knows or has reasonable cause to believe that
conduct has occurred which constitutes a misdemeanor or a violation offense under the laws of this
Commonwealth and relates to carrying, possession, or use of a deadly weapon; or use possession or sale of
controlled substances; or any felony offense under the laws of this Commonwealth; and the conduct occurred
on the school premises or within 1000 feet of school premises, on a school bus or at a school-sponsored or
sanctioned event.”

Kentucky schools are required to have a code of conduct.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 7:33:34am
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2017 • 7:34:51am

1. Trump tells a lie.
2. The lie generates outrage for its egregious falsehood.
3. Trump repeats lie, delighted by the attention.
4. Profit!!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2017 • 7:37:50am

He highlighted his own abysmal ignorance, and also shored up the deliberate ignorance of holocaust deniers. Heckuva job Moochie!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 7:40:07am

re: #109 The Vicious Babushka

He highlighted his own abysmal ignorance, and also shored up the deliberate ignorance of holocaust deniers. Heckuva job Moochie!

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heh

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 17, 2017 • 7:42:19am

re: #69 jeffreyw

Nice batch o’ figs. The wasps got a lot of mine this year. :sad_face:

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ObserverArt  Oct 17, 2017 • 7:42:52am

re: #103 BeachDem

I believe the lovely Marsha Blackburn was his “co-host” for that legislation. (Caught five minutes of the 60Minutes segment and it was enough to piss me off royally.)

Good morning all. Been at the job since 5:45 am. Feels like midnight already and it’s only 10 am.

Caught a few glimpses of the hideous presser yesterday (the TV is on where I’m working, so have no choice.) Fortunately, they don’t have it on Fox—usually CNN or MSNBC or sports or gameshows.

The full text of his incoherent, ignorant comment about writing letters/calling dead people/being better than all previous presidents etc. just hurt my head. He is the most repulsive lifeform I have ever had the misfortune to witness.

Arggghhh

It was his biggest “the dog ate my homework” lying episode yet. 10 year old school kids were rolling their eyes.

If his nose grew like Pinocchio the press would have had to move back the length of a football field.

And I almost felt sorry for Mitch.

No I didn’t!

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Dizzy  Oct 17, 2017 • 7:45:22am

An incredibly moving answer to the despicable poll that was posted above.

Iframe

Watch the whole thing, it’s worth it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 7:51:12am
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ObserverArt  Oct 17, 2017 • 7:52:51am

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

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what an asshat

If Trump is using Kelly and his son for cover and Obama did contact Kelly and family personally and not by phone (the wiggle from Trump…”I said he didn’t phone him”) I hope Kelly blows a gasket, kicks Trump’s fat butt and then loudly resigns.

I can’t imagine a president being able to go much lower than he did yesterday. Today he seems ready to drag everyone down with him. Totally disgusting behavior from a ‘leader’ of a country.

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Jay C  Oct 17, 2017 • 7:53:21am

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

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what an asshat

Which is putting it mildly.

(I hadn’t known that about Kelly’s son. What a bummer.)

So another brilliant managerial move from The Great Dealmaker: putting his CoS right on the spot. If Pres. Obama DID call/contact Kelly after his awful loss, he’s in the position of having to publicly contradict the POTUS (his boss), and thus highlight Trump’s lying BS even more.
If not (and I can’t imagine Obama, or any President* letting a loss like that - especially where a senior general is involved - go unremarked): he’s still in the position of having a family tragedy dragged out and exploited in support of a fundamental falsehood. All to assuage Trump’s ego. Heckuva job….

*present incumbent excepted

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 7:54:23am

oh

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Interesting Times  Oct 17, 2017 • 7:55:23am

re: #115 ObserverArt

I can’t imagine a president being able to go much lower than he did yesterday. Today he seems ready to drag everyone down with him. Totally disgusting behavior from a ‘leader’ of a country.

…and 62 million Americans approve of it because durr hurr, it triggers libtards -_-

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:03:06am

Cell phones are killing us.

Over the past two years, after decades of declining deaths on the road, U.S. traffic fatalities surged by 14.4 percent. In 2016 alone, more than 100 people died every day in or near vehicles in America

Finally, the increase in fatalities has been largely among bicyclists, motorcyclists, and pedestrians—all of whom are easier to miss from the driver’s seat than, say, a 4,000-pound SUV—especially if you’re glancing up from your phone rather than concentrating on the road. Last year, 5,987 pedestrians were killed by cars in the U.S., almost 1,100 more than in 2014—that’s a 22 percent increase in just two years.

It has been particularly brutal in road construction, I have had several people blowing by my flaggers, even after the the four signs warning them. They usually stop once the flagger uses her air horn to warn the laborers. They certainly don’t hesitate to call my office to complain about sitting in traffic.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:10:09am

re: #119 Shropshire Slasher

Cell phones are killing us.

It has been particularly brutal in road construction, I have had several people blowing by my flaggers, even after the the four signs warning them. They usually stop once the flagger uses her air horn to warn the laborers. They certainly don’t hesitate to call my office to complain about sitting in traffic.

We’ve had cell phones for decades. I blame Trump.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:12:48am

re: #120 Belafon

He can’t be everywhere!

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:15:36am

re: #121 Shropshire Slasher

He can’t be everywhere!

He’s on this website and I bet he’s not even registered.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:17:51am

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:19:52am

re: #123 Dave In Austin

Grip it and rip it!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:22:33am

Rand, pretending he is all powerful…

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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:25:16am
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Belafon  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:26:44am

re: #126 Dave In Austin

This is the world they’ve created. Votes 90+% of the time for what they want and they still turn on him.

Then again, that also describes those who claim to support Sanders.

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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:27:44am

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rand, pretending he is all powerful…

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The GOP constantly bitch and moan about how the DNC won’t work with them, then present the perfect evidence that their real anger is over how they can’t govern worth a damn.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:28:43am

re: #126 Dave In Austin

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Considering the Vietcong never had him.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:29:26am

re: #115 ObserverArt

If Trump is using Kelly and his son for cover and Obama did contact Kelly and family personally and not by phone (the wiggle from Trump…”I said he didn’t phone him”) I hope Kelly blows a gasket, kicks Trump’s fat butt and then loudly resigns.

I can’t imagine a president being able to go much lower than he did yesterday. Today he seems ready to drag everyone down with him. Totally disgusting behavior from a ‘leader’ of a country.

I can because but only because he will go lower than this.

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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:32:08am

Look for Forbes to get blasted by Dolt 45 shortly:

Yes folks, even with all the money he’s bilking from the government, he still lost $600 million in the past year.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:33:28am

re: #131 Targetpractice

Look for Forbes to get blasted by Dolt 45 shortly:

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Yes folks, even with all the money he’s bilking from the government, he still lost $600 million in the past year.

We’re run by an oligarch. The like you’d see in the aftermath of the fall of the USSR.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:33:43am

So Trump’s telling McCain, “Be careful, I fight back”.

McCain really needs to tell Trump, “Go fuck yourself” on live national TV. I might not agree with Senator McCain on a good many things, but on that, I’d applaud him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:34:41am
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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:35:21am

Donny threatening to “Fight back” is hilarious. What’s he going to do, threaten to sue McCain? He can’t force his retirement, and any petty actions he takes against Arizona in “retaliation” will only further convince McCain to vote against Two Scoops. This is an example of just how little the man understands about how America’s gov’t works.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:35:35am

re: #133 Dr Lizardo

So Trump’s telling McCain, “Be careful, I fight back”.

McCain really needs to tell Trump, “Go fuck yourself” on live national TV. I might not agree with Senator McCain on a good many things, but on that, I’d applaud him.

I really would love a “Sir have you no decency” moment from McCain in his final speech to the Senate in which he tears Trump apart for the shitty person he is.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:35:51am

re: #131 Targetpractice

Look for Forbes to get blasted by Dolt 45 shortly:

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Yes folks, even with all the money he’s bilking from the government, he still lost $600 million in the past year.

For that much money he could have bought the presidency of an irrelevant third-world republic.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:36:17am

McCain got tortured in the Hanoi Hilton. He can handle a little brat like Trump going off on him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:36:55am
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Teukka  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:37:00am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:37:23am

re: #137 Decatur Deb

For that much money he could have bought the presidency of an irrelevant third-world republic.

Instead, he’s turning the US into an irrelevant third-world autocracy.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:37:53am

re: #131 Targetpractice

Look for Forbes to get blasted by Dolt 45 shortly:

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Yes folks, even with all the money he’s bilking from the government, he still lost $600 million in the past year.

Nope…he’ll use this to play the martyr game: “Look at my sacrifice for you people!”

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Teukka  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:43:48am

re: #140 Teukka

Meanwhile, this side of the pond… Here’s why it was eerily dark across Stockholm this morning

Every once in a while, the smell of forest fire is very strong. Also, several planes across Europe have had to emergency land because of it.

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:46:19am
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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:47:10am

re: #142 Mike Lamb

Nope…he’ll use this to play the martyr game: “Look at my sacrifice for you people!”

True. Or declare that this is “proof” that he isn’t using the presidency for personal gain, because he wouldn’t be losing money otherwise.

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CongoJack  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:48:57am

re: #143 Teukka

Every once in a while, the smell of forest fire is very strong. Also, several planes across Europe have had to emergency land because of it.

Stay safe!

Having the same smell here in Colorado for the last few weeks (and a ton of haziness in the air).

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MsJ  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:51:18am
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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:52:10am

re: #147 MsJ

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The man is full of two things: shit and excuses.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:54:16am

re: #147 MsJ

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One of the first things you learn as an adult is to take responsibility for your actions, Trump apparently never learned to do that.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:54:32am

re: #148 Targetpractice

The man is full of two things: shit and excuses.

And his cult buys every word of it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:56:06am
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Citizen K  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:57:01am

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

Christ fucking all.

More proof that GOP can spew any rank shit they say and be given the benefit of the doubt by the same press corps that the GOP batter and demean as ‘enemies of the people’.

Meanwhile Hillary says the sky is blue, and her comment will be dissected for a week straight wondering if anyone can really trust their eyes if Hillary said this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:57:30am

COW!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:58:17am

re: #152 Citizen K

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Christ fucking all.

More proof that GOP can spew any rank shit they say and be given the benefit of the doubt by the same press corps that the GOP batter and demean as ‘enemies of the people’.

Meanwhile Hillary says the sky is blue, and her comment will be dissected for a week straight wondering if anyone can really trust their eyes if Hillary said this.

I don’t believe that for a second. If he hadn’t in 2010, the GOP would have had a field day then.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:58:50am
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Citizen K  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:59:21am

re: #154 HappyWarrior

Won’t keep the press from passing it along credulously like it’s the truth for the next few days.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:59:47am

re: #156 Citizen K

Won’t keep the press from passing it along credulously like it’s the truth for the next few days.

Of course.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:00:48am

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m waiting for a reporter to tell him to his face that he’s completely full of shit and that he has no business being President or in charge of anything except a jailhouse operation to make prison wine.

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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:00:54am

re: #147 MsJ

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Questions continue to swirl around the deadly Niger raid, and what went wrong on what was supposed to be a routine patrol mission.

“On Monday, Senator Jack Reed of Rhode Island, the ranking Democrat on the Armed Services Committee, joined a growing chorus calling for a review of the circumstances leading to the ambush,” the Times reported.

More and more, it appears that Trump’s deliberate silence is part of a larger cover-up.

Trump’s found himself involved in his very own Benghazi and the same people who once crucified Obama and wanted him impeached over “lying” about the circumstances are presently acting like the death of 4 soldiers in an ambush that took the DoD by surprise is “no big deal.”

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:01:23am

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

COW!!!!

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Jay C  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:02:13am

re: #148 Targetpractice

re: #149 HappyWarrior

And yet, it would have been so simple to defuse the criticism: a simple apology, a few calls, a bland statement urging deference for the families’ tragedies, and it all blows over.

For a normal President anyway, with an even half-competent staff - but NOOO! not The Donald: he just HAS to make everything about HIM - bolster his ego with lies, bluster and bullshit: then double down when called on it. What a disgrace.

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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:02:25am

re: #158 HappyWarrior

I’m waiting for a reporter to tell him to his face that he’s completely full of shit and that he has no business being President or in charge of anything except a jailhouse operation to make prison wine.

We know how that will end: He’ll immediately declare he’ll never again allow himself or a member of his administration to be interviewed or asked a question by that network until the reporter is fired, which the network will dutifully comply with to ensure they maintain “access.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:03:37am

re: #161 Jay C

And yet, it would have been so simple to defuse the criticism: a simple apology, a few calls, a bland statement urging deference for the families’ tragedies, and it all blows over.

For a normal President anyway, with an even half-competent staff - but NOOO! not The Donald: he just HAS to make everything about HIM - bolster his ego with lies, bluster and bullshit: then double down when called on it. What a disgrace.

It’s impossible for him to act like a decent human being. Even Nixon was capable of portraying himself like one.

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CongoJack  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:03:56am

re: #150 HappyWarrior

And his cult buys every word of it.

I don’t think the cult even pays attention. They hear snip-its here and there of this but their opinion of their dear leader won’t change because they never put any critical thought to it (or anything for that matter).

People like my Grandmother just watch Fox News - they don’t get any of this criticism. And if she heard it I am not certain she would understand (I had to explain to her that the wind turbines were not created bird genocide - she’s in KS).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:04:27am

re: #161 Jay C

And yet, it would have been so simple to defuse the criticism: a simple apology, a few calls, a bland statement urging deference for the families’ tragedies, and it all blows over.

For a normal President anyway, with an even half-competent staff - but NOOO! not The Donald: he just HAS to make everything about HIM - bolster his ego with lies, bluster and bullshit: then double down when called on it. What a disgrace.

This will soon be spun as “The anti-Trump press is hounding the President needlessly for a minor oversight”.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:05:07am

re: #148 Targetpractice

The man is full of two things: shit and excuses.

And he’s almost out of excuses.

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electrotek  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:05:32am

Hey guys, took an almost week-long sabbatical for a much-needed detox from the shitty world we live in.

Only to get back into the pool of shit yet again.

Will Trump ever admit any wrongdoing on his part? It’s always everyone else’s fault in his mind. He’s always the victim and never the instigator.

God Almighty, what did we do to deserve this nincompoop as our ruler?

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:05:58am

re: #160 FormerDirtDart

Another escapee from the meat market…

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CongoJack  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:06:58am

re: #167 electrotek

‘We’ created Facebook and Twitter and made social media our lives while being anti-social to those we cross paths with on a daily basis IRL.

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electrotek  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:09:19am

re: #169 CongoJack

‘We’ created Facebook and Twitter and made social media our lives while being anti-social to those we cross paths with on a daily basis IRL.

I miss the days when Facebook was only open to college students back in the day.

Not even MySpace was able to make such a difference as Facebook has in the world of politics.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:09:22am

re: #169 CongoJack

I’ve always felt social media is best used in small doses.

It does a wonderful job of connecting us to the world while keeping us from being connected to the world.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:11:06am

re: #171 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ve always felt social media is best used in small doses.

It does a wonderful job of connecting us to the world while keeping us from being connected to the world.

It really is so double edged. I’ve seen first hand how FB can be a platform for good but I like many of you have seen the downside of it.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:11:38am

re: #168 Shropshire Slasher

Another escapee from the meat market…

Artisanal cow
Damn hipsters

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:12:14am

re: #166 Eclectic Cyborg

And he’s almost out of excuses.

“I have come here to spew bullshit and make excuses. And I’m all out of excuses.”

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ObserverArt  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:12:19am

re: #144 JordanRules

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Outbrain may reach 550,000,000 but I doubt all that many click on their stupid clickbait. I know I hate that shit and I don’t consider it advertising in the traditional sense of ads since it basically is misdirection. It’s content that leads to further ad bait.

Do many of the LGF members ever click on those little boxes after you discover a few times what they are?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:13:08am

re: #171 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ve always felt social media is best used in small doses.

It does a wonderful job of connecting us to the world while keeping us from being connected to the world.

It was long before social media was even a thought in anyone’s mind. Media in any form can always be used for ill purposes.

Paddy Chayefsky had it figured out.

Network - We’re In A Lot Of Trouble!

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:15:40am

And in local news - Racist Facebook rant by Riverhead town attorney’s wife sparks outrage

A racist rant on Facebook by the wife of a Riverhead public official last night sparked outrage on social media and has members of the town’s anti-bias task force calling for his resignation.

The wife of Riverhead town attorney Bob Kozakiewicz posted a public status on her timeline last night using racist slurs and obscene language, urging blacks to “PLEASE LEAVE AMERICA” and to go to Africa.

The Facebook account of Dianne Kozakiewicz, who used the name Dianne Delaney on her Facebook profile, was deactivated this morning.

Her timeline displayed other similar posts. Referring to the NFL, she called NFL football players “BLACK BRATS” and urged them to “go away” and “leave my beautiful country” if they “feel oppressed.”

Another town politician blamed alcohol problems on the rant - and then blamed the people calling her out for her drunken racism.

Supervisor Sean Walter condemned the sentiments expressed by the town attorney’s wife and said she “needs help” with alcohol abuse issues.

[…]

The supervisor was also critical of people who reposted screen shots of Dianne Delaney’s posts.

“It is unmitigated hatred that should never be reposted,” he said. “If you see it and you repost it you’re just as guilty in my opinion about propagating that hatred.”

Just another day in an Eastern Liberal Enclave.
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electrotek  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:18:14am

I’m reading her “rant” by imagining the voice with a New Yorker accent and my head hurts.

Stuff like that is why I can never see myself living in the Northeast.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:18:40am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:19:18am

re: #177 makeitstop

And in local news - Racist Facebook rant by Riverhead town attorney’s wife sparks outrage

Another town politician blamed alcohol problems on the rant - and then blamed the people calling her out for her drunken racism.

Just another day in an Eastern Liberal Enclave.
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Agh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:19:21am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:21:06am

There was a post that an African-American professor in which he shared a very nasty voicemail he got after his appearance on FNC. Just about every bit of racial ugliness you can imagine. I can’t imagine what that must feel like. Feeling that way in your own country. No one’s ever told me to go back to Europe when they don’t like my opinions.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:21:07am

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:22:44am

re: #175 ObserverArt

Agreed. I’m so quick at spotting their stuff but I’ve seen how those type of content providers get more sophisticated in their placements.

Less savvy folks on the web may get caught up in it and the email forwarding crowd may even like their ridiculous content.

I’ve always wondered what the ROI is on that ridiculous stuff.

I can see how just having the limited text from one of the silly ads splashed everywhere can reinforce a version of what, Fox, the bots and trolls are pushing elsewhere. Something like… “Hillary Hides Ebola” = Hillary is not healthy and unfit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:23:04am

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I smell a hoax, like the lost cat poster…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:23:39am

They need Hillary because the right always needs someone or something to hate on to rally around. That’s how right wing politics always succeeds.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:24:05am

re: #183 Dr Lizardo

re: #185 Blind Frog Belly White

Dammit!

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ObserverArt  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:24:35am

re: #161 Jay C

And yet, it would have been so simple to defuse the criticism: a simple apology, a few calls, a bland statement urging deference for the families’ tragedies, and it all blows over.

For a normal President anyway, with an even half-competent staff - but NOOO! not The Donald: he just HAS to make everything about HIM - bolster his ego with lies, bluster and bullshit: then double down when called on it. What a disgrace.

All he had to say was something like: “We wanted a little time for the family and I will be contacting them.” And then shut the fuck up.

His natural tendency is to cover and then make some big thing up about why his cover is the best thing ever.

Pretty obvious his whole life has been doing this every day. It is why it is so easy for him to do. It’s natural for him. He’s a born liar and he cannot stop it.

Maybe Congress will try to work with him, but every day that goes by more and more people will turn this idiot off because there are just so many reasons not to trust him.

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MsJ  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:25:15am

re: #154 HappyWarrior

I don’t believe that for a second. If he hadn’t in 2010, the GOP would have had a field day then.

If Kelly had a command it was likely that he knew about his son before the WH did.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:25:53am

re: #187 Blind Frog Belly White

Dammit!

It’s one of my favorites. Shared it with a friend of mine, and a couple of days later she responded, “That can’t be real. It’s impossible. No one is that stupid.”

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MsJ  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:26:55am

re: #159 Targetpractice

Trump’s found himself involved in his very own Benghazi and the same people who once crucified Obama and wanted him impeached over “lying” about the circumstances are presently acting like the death of 4 soldiers in an ambush that took the DoD by surprise is “no big deal.”

And not one word will be said about it. There won’t be a single hearing, let alone 11. Trump won’t ever be put into the hot seat or held responsible for any actions. They have no desire to determine what happened and look to improvement. They. Do. Not. Care.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:27:30am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:28:24am

re: #192 FormerDirtDart

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Clearly, there are no cowherds in the NYPD.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:28:59am

The truck is moving cow-ward?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:29:32am

re: #190 Dr Lizardo

It’s one of my favorites. Shared it with a friend of mine, and a couple of days later she responded, “That can’t be real. It’s impossible. No one is that stupid.”

a few years back, a neighbor’s sister found some kittens abandoned in the woods and brought them home.

They were neither abandoned, nor were they domestic felines. Terror ensued during the following days.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:30:11am

Poor thing just wanted to find greener pastures and ended up on a synthetic turf field.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:31:27am
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Ace-o-aces  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:32:03am

Covering for Trump’s idiocy is 90% of what this Whit House does.

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:32:14am

re: #189 MsJ

And maybe this too?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:33:33am

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

a few years back, a neighbor’s sister found some kittens abandoned in the woods and brought them home.

They were neither abandoned, nor were they domestic felines. Terror ensued during the following days.

There’s a handful of feral cats around my neighborhood - it’s always advised to just leave their kittens alone.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:33:53am

re: #192 FormerDirtDart

Sorry.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:34:32am

re: #200 Dr Lizardo

There’s a handful of feral cats around my neighborhood - it’s always advised to just leave their kittens alone.

these were bobcat kittens.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:35:00am
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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:35:04am

re: #198 Ace-o-aces

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Covering for Trump’s idiocy is 90% of what this Whit House does.

The same people who get pissed over anonymous White House “officials” will totally buy this anonymous White House “official” declaring that Obama did not call Gen. Kelly.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:35:08am

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bobcat cubs? That’s been known to happen.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:35:08am

re: #196 Barefoot Grin

Poor thing just wanted to find greener pastures and ended up on a synthetic turf field.

Better traction. Gives you hellacious brushburns if you’re tackled on it, though.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:35:23am

re: #201 Ace-o-aces

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Sorry.

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CongoJack  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:35:59am

re: #199 JordanRules

And maybe this too?

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Good lord. NBC - do your damn research before you post shit. I swear NBC you are trying to remove your self as being a valid news source. My first exhibit would be freaking Megan Kelly (and Greta VanSnore (aka Greta VanScientologist at MSNBC).

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:36:13am

re: #203 FormerDirtDart

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Damn, I’ve been in that area a lot since there’s some decent venues in that area. Hopefully everyone stays safe.

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Jay C  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:36:45am

re: #198 Ace-o-aces

re: #199 JordanRules

BTW, do we know, at this point, what sort of “official” reaction/response to Lt. Kelly’s death there actually WAS: whether from the White House, DoD or elsewhere?

Or is that yet another snippet of reality likely to be overlooked in the usual tsunami of Trumpian BS/fake-outrage/pathetic spin?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:37:03am

re: #202 Backwoods_Sleuth

these were bobcat kittens.

LOL yeah, we certainly don’t have those around these parts.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:37:06am

re: #199 JordanRules

And maybe this too?

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That’s a possibility too. Either way, the Trump version of events is totally bs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:38:08am

re: #205 Dave In Austin

Bobcat cubs? That’s been known to happen.

they are awful darned cute when they are little (and asleep)…

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ObserverArt  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:38:51am

An example of how fast a story spreads on the ‘net.

I just did a Google search using “Barack Obama on General John Kelly’s son dying” as a search term.

8 pages of links in and Google is still returning links to today’s Trump comment about asking Kelly about Obama.

Arrrgh.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:39:41am

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

they are awful darned cute when they are little (and asleep)…

The Arabian sand kitten is adorable. Looks like some kind of real-life Pokémon, LOL.

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:40:07am

re: #210 Jay C

Not that I’ve seen. I assume we’ll get those details from some Obama alum at some point. Meanwhile the press is just playing a great wingman for this regime and it’s bullshit.

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MsJ  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:41:31am

re: #201 Ace-o-aces

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Sorry.

Not sorry.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:43:08am

re: #209 HappyWarrior

Damn, I’ve been in that area a lot since there’s some decent venues in that area. Hopefully everyone stays safe.

Apparently one child in a stroller was knocked over. Taken to hospital for treatment. No reports on extent of injury

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ObserverArt  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:44:41am

re: #208 CongoJack

Good lord. NBC - do your damn research before you post shit. I swear NBC you are trying to remove your self as being a valid news source. My first exhibit would be freaking Megan Kelly (and Greta VanSnore (aka Greta VanScientologist at MSNBC).

Greta has been gone for a few months now. She quit seeing that her ratings were no good.

As far as this report, I’m going to wait to see how this one washes out. Sometimes some of the younger ladies of MSNBC jump too fast on a story and then the details come later.

I’m not making excuses, this is what happens when everyone has to jump on a story because it is hot and they can’t get left behind. It sucks.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:44:50am

re: #217 MsJ

Not sorry.

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Hey, don’t have a cow.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:45:09am

re: #218 FormerDirtDart

Apparently one child in a stroller was knocked over. Taken to hospital for treatment. No reports on extent of injury

Hopefully it’s minor. Sigh. Sick of assholes with guns.

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electrotek  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:45:34am

re: #220 HappyWarrior

Hey, don’t have a cow.

…man.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:45:41am

re: #215 Dr Lizardo

The Arabian sand kitten is adorable. Looks like some kind of real-life Pokémon, LOL.

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yeppers…sand cat kittens always win the cuteness competition.

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CongoJack  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:46:20am

re: #217 MsJ

Not sorry.

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City Slickers 2 (1994) The Cow’s Name Is Norman [HD]

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:47:29am

IIRC, Kelly worked in the Obama White House. There is no way in hell Obama didn’t speak to Kelly directly after his son’s death.

And another thing. It is high time for the media to STOP calling things Trump lies about “false” or “a falsehood,” and start calling them LIES, GOD DAMN IT!

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:47:31am

re: #221 HappyWarrior

Hopefully it’s minor. Sigh. Sick of assholes with guns.

Oh, I’m sorry. I thought you were responding to the Cow tweets.
I’ve seen no other news from Howard university.

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:47:41am

re: #219 ObserverArt

Was their a particular MSNBC personality who put this WH allegation out? I’ve only seen it as just reported by NBC’s general politics desk.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:48:51am

This is too much:

Instagram

I have no idea what this store sells but I want ALL OF IT @girlwithnojob

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:49:26am

re: #226 FormerDirtDart

Oh, I’m sorry. I thought you were responding to the Cow tweets.
I’ve seen no other news from Howard university.

It’s cool.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:49:34am

re: #200 Dr Lizardo

There’s a handful of feral cats around my neighborhood - it’s always advised to just leave their kittens alone.

Our Trixie was a feral. My wife pulled her out from under my truck at a gig one night.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:49:55am

We need Slim Pickens to round up some cattle!

Slim Pickens in 1941

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:50:51am

Kelly served in the Obama WH starting in 2012, two years after his son’s death. My point remains though, there is NO WAY Obama never spoke to Kelly directly about it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:50:59am

re: #225 Ace Rothstein

IIRC, Kelly worked in the Obama White House. There is no way in hell Obama didn’t speak to Kelly directly after his son’s death.

And another thing. It is high time for the media to STOP calling things Trump lies about “false” or “a falsehood,” and start calling them LIES, GOD DAMN IT!

Kelly was back in the US in February of 2009 according to his Wiki page. Not sure what he was doing at the time of his son’s death. This is yet another Trump lie that he’s using to throw attention off himself for being a shitty commander in chief.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:51:31am

re: #228 Barefoot Grin

This is too much:

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Edeka supermarkets (Germany) with “Supergeil”.

EDEKA Supergeil (feat. Friedrich Liechtenstein)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:51:37am

re: #232 Ace Rothstein

Kelly served in the Obama WH starting in 2012, two years after his son’s death. My point remains though, there is NO WAY Obama never spoke to Kelly directly about it.

If he hadn’t, I’d think it would have leaked somehow and the usual suspects would have a field day then.

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BlueGrl21  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:51:38am

re: #205 Dave In Austin

Bobcat cubs? That’s been known to happen.

I used to work in a shelter that took in injured wild animals and rehab-ed them, then send the critters back from whence they came.

Yes, people are stupid enough to mistake a possum for a cat and a coyote for a dog. We had someone bring in an injured red-tailed hawk and not understand why “this large mockingbird seems so aggressive.” I also had people call me all of the time and tell me they had an injured possum in their yard that, “appeared dead.” “Do me a favor….wait for it and don’t touch it.” 2 mins later, “Oh, wow, it’s ok!” “Yes, that’s called ‘playing possum.’ They do that.”

I rehab wild animals at home now, the neighbors know to come get me BEFORE they pick anything up. I had 5 baby mockingbirds last spring and my husband came out of our bedroom with a suitcase packed with clothing and a bottle of vodka. “I can’t take it any more, I’m out.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:53:20am
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wrenchwench  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:55:24am

re: #236 BlueGrl21

I used to work in a shelter that took in injured wild animals and rehab-ed them, then send the critters back from whence they came.

Yes, people are stupid enough to mistake a possum for a cat and a coyote for a dog. We had someone bring in an injured red-tailed hawk and not understand why “this large mockingbird seems so aggressive.” […] I had 5 baby mockingbirds last spring and my husband came out of our bedroom with a suitcase packed with clothing and a bottle of vodka. “I can’t take it any more, I’m out.”

My husband uses ‘mockingbird’ as his ID of choice for every bird call he hears.

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Citizen K  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:55:45am

re: #214 ObserverArt

An example of how fast a story spreads on the ‘net.

I just did a Google search using “Barack Obama on General John Kelly’s son dying” as a search term.

8 pages of links in and Google is still returning links to today’s Trump comment about asking Kelly about Obama.

Arrrgh.

And any retraction, any proof to the contrary, will be buried 12 pages back at minimum if it comes. Meanwhile, the lie will become gospel truth, because it’s already treated like that on the outset by credulous media who have zero reason to trust anything he says, but do it anyways because they think maybe this time, JUST THIS TIME, the right wing will stop beating them and threatening their livelihood and their lives.

This is what we’re up against. And I have no idea how to pierce through that, when we own no megaphone whatsoever.

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ObserverArt  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:57:06am

re: #227 JordanRules

Was their a particular MSNBC personality who put this WH allegation out? I’ve only seen it as just reported by NBC’s general politics desk.

I don’t know. I was speaking of past reports from some of the MSNBC people like Hallie Jackson, Kasie Hunt and others. They sometimes are eager to make a report prior to fleshing it all out. Our media is always in a rush and sometimes that is not the way to go. But here we are in the instantaneous news world.

I’m being critical of the whole speed to report thing.

Trump and others use that too. It gets a story out and it becomes gospel before it can be checked out properly. You can control people that way as they buy the initial story, run with it making tweets and Facebook posts and no one goes back and corrects anything when the facts actuall come out.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:58:23am

re: #207 FormerDirtDart

Saw that pic, and this song popped into my head…

YouTube

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CongoJack  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:58:34am

re: #237 The Vicious Babushka

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This. Is. Nothing. What are they attempting to tell the masses? This makes no sense at all and I have the feeling that NBC has an adderall problem.

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Citizen K  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:59:50am

re: #242 CongoJack

This. Is. Nothing. What are they attempting to tell the masses? This makes no sense at all and I have the feeling that NBC has an adderall problem.

This suggests incompetence instead of complicity. At some point, the former becomes less of an excuse when it happens over and over again to the same exact effect.

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:00:11am

re: #240 ObserverArt

Gotcha!

Yup, I get the landscape we’re operating in but even just their initial framing and decision to run with this rumor from the WH is frustrating.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:04:40am

re: #234 Dr Lizardo

Okay, I would totally shop at that place!

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:05:47am

Just saw some previews of this interview on Andrea Mitchell’s show and it looks fascinating though I already forgot the name of the Russian gentleman.

Rachel will be joining him for this episode as well.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:06:28am

On Faux News’ twitter feed, not a single tweet about Trump’s comments about Kelly’s son. Not a single one.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:07:48am

re: #219 ObserverArt

Chris Hays has to interview some turd from Res State last nite. Gag…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:07:49am

re: #247 Ace Rothstein

On Faux News’ twitter feed, not a single tweet about Trump’s comments about Kelly’s son. Not a single one.

Breaking: Hillary got upset at something.

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Sea Mexican!  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:08:49am

re: #70 The Vicious Babushka

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This is heartbreaking in so many levels…

I just saw this morning that a phone number is circulating thru the social media with a number to call. I’m now fearing that the number is a hoax…

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scottslemmons  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:10:55am

Imagine being John Kelly and telling Trump it was okay to tell lies about his own son.

John Kelly isn’t going to be the guy to control Trump. He’s likely encouraging his deranged behavior.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:13:42am

re: #251 scottslemmons

I don’t see how Kelly doesn’t resign by Friday.

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I cannot.  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:17:04am

re: #252 Ace Rothstein

I don’t see how he took the job in the first place, but I’m not a fucking evil ghoul.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:19:24am

re: #253 I cannot.

I don’t see how he took the job in the first place, but I’m not a fucking evil ghoul.

i don’t either. Ditto Mattis.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:20:22am

*thud*

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Decatur Deb  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:21:20am

re: #238 wrenchwench

My husband uses ‘mockingbird’ as his ID of choice for every bird call he hears.

It’s always going to be a mockingbird or the bird it’s mocking.

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danarchy  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:21:50am

re: #203 FormerDirtDart

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OK, what does the shooter have to do with the cheerleaders? I can’t stand Raw Story, they have some of the most click-baity deceptive headlines I’ve ever seen.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:21:54am

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

*thud*

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Ah there’s Rand Paul and his love of “liberty.”.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:22:49am

Something tells me this upcoming presser with the Greek PM is going to be an utter trainwreck.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:24:01am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:24:03am

re: #259 makeitstop

Something tells me this upcoming presser with the Greek PM is going to be an utter trainwreck.

Wonder if he brings up their debt.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:24:19am

Fucking shitshow

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:25:06am

re: #241 Blind Frog Belly White

Saw that pic, and this song popped into my head…

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Video

I had that album.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:26:25am
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Eventual Carrion  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:27:39am

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

*thud*

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Yeah, that whole “no religious test” clause in the Constitution, fuck that.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:28:27am

re: #261 HappyWarrior

Wonder if he brings up their debt.

Wonder if the Greek PM brings up Trump’s debt.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:29:13am

re: #266 Ace Rothstein

Wonder if the Greek PM brings up Trump’s debt.

Or his kitty-grabbing

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lawhawk  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:29:47am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. Trump lied all throughout yesterday’s presser, and especially when it came to contacting/comforting the families of servicemembers killed in service to the nation.

Trump said he’d get around to writing letters or calling the families of four servicemembers killed in service in Niger. He then lied that this was something his predecessors didn’t do, which amazingly enough the media pushed back on and even then Trump lied and obfuscated his lie with still more baffling BS.

Trump lacks the empathy gene. The GOP does, but Trump’s failures here are even more base and visceral.

He can’t help but lie. He doesn’t know how to comfort people whose family members died in service to the nation, and he’d rather spend the time golfing than dealing with the tough questions and raw emotions of family members.

GWB and Obama both did that with grace. In fact, Trump’s predecessors all spent the time to go to Walter Reed or other hospitals to visit with wounded servicemembers, or met those who made the supreme sacrifice on their return to Dover and with family members at different times.

It’s one of the toughest jobs as president, and Trump doesn’t deem that a priority (or a necessity until pressed).

Speaking of comfort, it looks like Trump’s failures in Puerto Rico continue piling up.

The USNS Comfort was eventually sent to provide help, but it’s underutilized because no one seems to know how to prioritize anyone to get treatment on the ship which has state of the art care facilities.

The failure goes to the heart of Trump’s inattention to detail and refusal to work with the local officials. No one knows what they’re doing - not FEMA, not the federal officials helping out.

Meanwhile, the power remains out to 82.3% (woo, there’s a jump to under 85%) of the island, and reports continue growing about how many on the island lack access to safe water supplies.

This is entirely on Trump, and the media continues glossing all this over. Every online media outlet should be carrying a stats bug showing how much of Puerto Rico is still without power, water, etc., and not stop running those until power is restored.

status.pr:
17.7% of island has power
59.9% has telcom service
42% of cell phone towers are functional
65% have safe drinking water.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:33:49am

re: #259 makeitstop

Something tells me this upcoming presser with the Greek PM is going to be an utter trainwreck.

I fear the Greeks and the gifs they bring.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:34:06am
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Sea Mexican!  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:35:36am

re: #262 Stanley Sea

Fucking shitshow

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The guy is a national fucking embarrassment. He lucked out on the governorship because of his father, and lucked out on Hurricane Irma (which was a normal hurricane emergency).

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:36:37am
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Skip Intro  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:37:24am

re: #198 Ace-o-aces

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Covering for Trump’s idiocy is 90% of what this Whit House does.

And 95% of what the press does.

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Citizen K  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:38:20am

re: #262 Stanley Sea

re: #271 Le Coquí Résistance

But remember, it’s the San Juan mayor who was ignored as ‘political noise’ and dismissed out of hand by officials, despite being one of the people doing her damnedest on the street level and above.

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:38:21am

I want this son of a bitch to personally pay out reparations.

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lawhawk  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:38:34am

re: #109 The Vicious Babushka

Is that Scaramucci or something else. @scaramucci is his official page; that disgusting Holocaust denial BS was by something calling itself @scaramuccipost.

What’s the relationship between the two, if any?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:39:45am

re: #270 FormerDirtDart

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It’s closer than it should be but I don’t see Gillespie winning.

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:40:46am

re: #276 lawhawk

His new media entity.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:41:00am

re: #276 lawhawk

Is that Scaramucci or something else. @scaramucci is his official page; that disgusting Holocaust denial BS was by something calling itself @scaramuccipost.

What’s the relationship between the two, if any?

the latter is Scaramucci’s media outlet.

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MsJ  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:41:29am

re: #251 scottslemmons

Imagine being John Kelly and telling Trump it was okay to tell lies about his own son.

John Kelly isn’t going to be the guy to control Trump. He’s likely encouraging his deranged behavior.

What I have been saying since day 1. He is equally as wingnutty as all the others. He may be slightly less insane than trump (really, who isn’t?) but he’s still a schmoe.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:42:46am

Presser is nearly 15 minutes late. Probably waiting for the tranquilizers to kick in…

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Interesting Times  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:43:12am

re: #277 HappyWarrior

It’s closer than it should be but I don’t see Gillespie winning.

Don’t jinx Northam! If 2016 taught us anything, it’s to never, EVER take the so-called electorate’s “wisdom” for granted.

Though on the bright side, maybe that poll will scare apathetic Dem voters into showing up. All you can do is ramp up GOTV efforts to the Nth degree.

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Kragar  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:44:03am

re: #281 makeitstop

Somebody in the Oval Office told Donny he had to stand in the corner and now they’re stuck waiting for him

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:44:54am

re: #276 lawhawk

Is that Scaramucci or something else. @scaramucci is his official page; that disgusting Holocaust denial BS was by something calling itself @scaramuccipost.

What’s the relationship between the two, if any?

It’s Scaramucci’s “professional” account not his personal one.

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lawhawk  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:45:07am

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gotcha. So we’ve identified yet another Holocaust denier/anti Semite/bigot among Trump’s coterie of craven cronies.

Wonderful. It’s so much quicker to identify those who aren’t bigots than by trying to find the bigots in that bunch.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:45:42am

re: #282 Interesting Times

Don’t jinx Northam! If 2016 taught us anything, it’s to never, EVER take the so-called electorate’s “wisdom” for granted.

Though on the bright side, maybe that poll will scare apathetic Dem voters into showing up. All you can do is ramp up GOTV efforts to the Nth degree.

Can only hope. We’re going to need to retain LG and AG as well as the Governor’s mansion.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:46:02am

re: #283 Kragar

Somebody in the Oval Office told Donny he had to stand in the corner and now they’re stuck waiting for him

Camera just went live, here we go..

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bratwurst  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:46:16am

I am tempted to file this under “better late than never”, but it might as well have been never.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:46:31am

A comment about pulling polls. My congresscritter, John Ratcliffe, put out an email that linked to a poll asking if people support action against Iran. I guess he didn’t like the results, because by the time I went to the link the poll didn’t exist.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:47:59am

re: #220 HappyWarrior

Hey, don’t have a cow.

Had a friend who was also a work colleague saying that to another colleague. She claimed that it made her feel like he was making fun of her being a mother. I kid you not. He was fired.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:48:06am

He sounds tired. Bragging about the stock market. Asshole.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:48:14am

After a lifetime of involvement with the far-right Kevin Wilshaw announces on Channel 4 News that he is leaving the movement - at the same time publicly coming out as gay.

The well known National Front organiser in the 1980s was still active in white supremacist groups earlier this year - including speaking at events.

But tonight on Channel 4 News he explains for the very first time why he is publicly disavowing the movement - sharing his secrets, explaining how he was both a Neo-Nazi and of Jewish heritage , while admitting to violent acts and what motivated his hatred.

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Skip Intro  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:48:53am

re: #252 Ace Rothstein

I don’t see how Kelly doesn’t resign by Friday.

He won’t because being near trump poisons everything.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:50:57am

LOLWUT

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Renaissance_Man  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:52:38am

re: #288 bratwurst

I am tempted to file this under “better late than never”, but it might as well have been never.

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He’ll still vote Trump again. When he does, I’m sure there’ll be a good excuse.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:52:51am

re: #294 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWUT

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He had to go with them. He always said he would never join a group that would have him as a member, and that was the group that was left available.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:54:51am

Wow he is an ever erupting shit Vesuvius.

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CongoJack  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:56:37am

re: #297 The Vicious Babushka

Wow he is an ever erupting shit Vesuvius.

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Caused by….?

Goldman Sachs (the people in your inner circle). But why bring that up it was just boys being boys. /

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:56:44am

LOL

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:56:58am

I imagine there’s a lot of Neo-Nazis like that. Either closeted gay or with Jewish heritage. Honestly, I always found the idea of racial superiority absurd since we’re all mixed somehow and my race isn’t my choice. I can make myself more intelligent by reading and learning but I’m not naturally more intelligent due to being of European descent. I just am. Just like I happen to have dark hair and blue eyes.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:58:28am
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wrenchwench  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:00:14am

re: #301 makeitstop

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Every time they whined about ‘paid protestors’, it was projection.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:02:07am
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electrotek  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:02:46am

He’s just pulling percentages out of his ass.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:02:46am

he has the fucking nerve to bring up judicial appointments after Gorsuch?

Fuck you, Trump.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:02:47am

re: #300 HappyWarrior

I imagine there’s a lot of Neo-Nazis like that. Either closeted gay or with Jewish heritage. Honestly, I always found the idea of racial superiority absurd since we’re all mixed somehow and my race isn’t my choice. I can make myself more intelligent by reading and learning but I’m not naturally more intelligent due to being of European descent. I just am. Just like I happen to have dark hair and blue eyes.

There was one Polish neo-nazi who was outed as Jewish and then he totally OWNED IT.

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:03:16am

re: #302 wrenchwench

Yup. Let us not forget…it’s rigged!!!! He told us repeatedly.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:03:52am

Inadvertent closed-caption hilarity…

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:05:21am

re: #299 JordanRules

LOL

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I’ve got the bobblehead doll.

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thecommodore  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:05:40am

Here we go with another case of “Whataboutism.” Hannity and the Trumpsters will harp on this to equivocate about any revelations that have come out or will come out about Mueller’s investigation of Trump-Russia.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:05:54am

He cannot stop talking about himself.

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sagehen  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:06:06am

re: #260 Shropshire Slasher

You made me do this:

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OOH!!

Carly Simon was on “Finding Your Roots” last week — her grandmother was from Cuba (which she never knew, always thought grandma was from Spain), listed in Cuban archives as “free, mixed-race” (which is maybe why grandma lied). DNA tests showed Carly as 10% sub-saharan African (according to Gates, “the blackest white woman we’ve ever had on this show”).

And Fred Armison, who’d thought he was 1/4 Japanese? Turns out, Japanese grandpa was really Korean, passing as Japanese. And once Gates’ researcher found that, they were able to trace the Korean side back 63 generations to a founding emperor of Korea.

Christopher Walken’s father was a German immigrant who came here in 1928 and never talked about his family. Turns out, they were Nazis. Christopher’s uncles were in the SS.

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wrenchwench  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:08:06am

re: #307 JordanRules

Yup. Let us not forget…it’s rigged!!!! He told us repeatedly.

Lock ‘im up!

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MsJ  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:08:41am

re: #288 bratwurst

I am tempted to file this under “better late than never”, but it might as well have been never.

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Isn’t this fucking guy’s 15 minutes up already? Jesus Christ.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:09:29am

Greek PM: We…Our…Us…
Trump: I…Me…Mine…

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Skip Intro  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:10:19am

Who Among Us Hasn’t Misplaced a Couple Billion Dollars?

The gang at Forbes—Motto: Even We Can’t Believe What Grifters They Are—presented us on Monday with a mystery. Wilbur Ross, the Secretary of Commerce, seems to have pulled the old fast shuffle when he went into government work, hiding billions-with-a-B in his own assets in trusts set up for various family members.

What he left unsaid, however, was that between the November election and January inauguration, he had quietly moved a chunk of assets into trusts for his family members, leaving more than $2 billion off of his financial disclosure report—and therefore out of the public eye. Ross revealed the existence of those assets, and the timing of the transfer, when Forbes asked why his financial disclosure form listed fewer assets than he had previously told the magazine he owned. The hidden assets raise questions about whether the Secretary of Commerce violated federal rules and whether his family owns billions in holdings that could create the appearance of conflicts of interest. Federal law requires incoming cabinet members to disclose assets they currently own, as well as any that produced income during the current and previous calendar years, even if they no longer own the assets. Ross says he followed all rules. But how someone could apparently hold $2 billion in assets, without producing big income that would show up on a financial disclosure report, raises more questions than answers.

Yes, it does, and one of those questions is, “How brazen do these clucks have to be before we all kick back at the budding plutocracy that’s right in front of our eyes?” Remember Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin who, somehow, forgot to mention $100 million in assets on his disclosure forms? (Who among us hasn’t done that, I ask you.) And, of course, the granddaddy of them all, the president* and his phantom tax returns. I mean, we’re not asking to see all of them at once, just the ones that are in Cyrillic.

But, as he told Forbes, Ross knows what the real problem here is.

Not including the undisclosed assets, Ross retains an estimated $700 million, still enough to make him one of the richest members of Donald Trump’s cabinet but not enough to qualify for The Forbes 400 list of America’s richest people. “I don’t care if I’m on the list or not,” he said. “That frankly doesn’t matter. But what I don’t want is for people to suddenly think that I’ve lost a lot of money when it’s not true.”

He doesn’t care how much of a rule-bending oligarch he is. He doesn’t care that he might be skating on the thin edge of the law in how he hid his money. He doesn’t even care if he misses the Forbes 400! All Wilbur Ross cares about is that people don’t start thinking he’s not as rich as he was. This, of course, makes him a perfect cabinet member in this administration*, which is led by a guy who has, in every sense, an inflated sense of self-worth. Fitzgerald was right. The rich are different from you and me. Some of them are inexplicable.

esquire.com

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MsJ  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:10:55am

Not much there yet.

Senator Lamar Alexander said a bipartisan deal has been reached on a package of fixes to stabilize Obamacare just two weeks before Americans start signing up for 2018 coverage.

The two-year deal would allow crucial subsidies to health insurers to start flowing again, potentially lowering insurance premiums for those in the program next year.

Developing…

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MsJ  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:12:08am

re: #316 Skip Intro

Who Among Us Hasn’t Misplaced a Couple Billion Dollars?

esquire.com

They are republicans. No one cares when they do it.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:14:04am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:15:52am

re: #317 MsJ

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Not much there yet.

There’s a trade-off in that plan: give states “flexibility” to administer stuff as they see fit.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:17:47am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:18:07am

she is feckin hopeless

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:18:19am
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Skip Intro  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:18:54am

re: #318 MsJ

They are republicans. No one cares when they do it.

Certainly not the media. But Hillary stubbed her toe yesterday.

“IS SHE DYING?????”

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wrenchwench  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:19:02am

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s a trade-off in that plan: give states “flexibility” to administer stuff as they see fit.

Now Texas can achieve their goal of highest maternal death rate in the world, as they see fit.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:19:29am

re: #317 MsJ

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Not much there yet.

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petesh  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:19:31am

re: #269 Decatur Deb

I fear the Greeks and the gifs they bring.

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Brilliant. A perfect play on words, executed to a T.

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MsJ  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:19:38am

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s a trade-off in that plan: give states “flexibility” to administer stuff as they see fit.

More republicans fuck over their citizens. I literally can’t even.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:20:04am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:21:29am

re: #312 sagehen

OOH!!

Carly Simon was on “Finding Your Roots” last week — her grandmother was from Cuba (which she never knew, always thought grandma was from Spain), listed in Cuban archives as “free, mixed-race” (which is maybe why grandma lied). DNA tests showed Carly as 10% sub-saharan African (according to Gates, “the blackest white woman we’ve ever had on this show”).

And Fred Armison, who’d thought he was 1/4 Japanese? Turns out, Japanese grandpa was really Korean, passing as Japanese. And once Gates’ researcher found that, they were able to trace the Korean side back 63 generations to a founding emperor of Korea.

Christopher Walken’s father was a German immigrant who came here in 1928 and never talked about his family. Turns out, they were Nazis. Christopher’s uncles were in the SS.

You just never know. We had thought for years that my Dad’s maternal grandfather- Pap Pap was all Irish. Turns out that his grandmother was from a French immigrant family that emigrated in George Washington’s time (another shocker!) and there may now be a possibility his mother wasn’t even Irish at all since some people have told me that her surname may also be Dutch. Genealogical research has re-enforced my opposition to prejudice. I’m a mutt and a damn proud one. All these people and all their backgrounds are why I’m here today. It doesn’t matter where they were from. Just pieces of the puzzle on little old me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:21:59am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:22:08am

re: #322 Backwoods_Sleuth

she is feckin hopeless

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She’s so full of shit just like her pedophile apologizing Dad.

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wrenchwench  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:22:41am

re: #328 MsJ

More republicans fuck over their citizens. I literally can’t even.

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I literally can’t even so severely, I’m odd.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:22:50am

re: #321 HappyWarrior

Yes I remember that story.

Maybe this is the story you remember?

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:24:36am

And here’s another one.

We are replacing them!

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:25:36am

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL. Next, we get all leaders making disparaging comment about Trump so he won’t meet with them.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:25:52am

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good grief…

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Mike Lamb  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:26:14am

But kudos to that guy for asking the appropriate question.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:26:26am

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

At least people are challenging him finally. How long until “I’ve been told”?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:27:38am

re: #334 The Vicious Babushka

Maybe this is the story you remember?

No, I remembered the Polish one because of it being him and his wife. I remember this one as well. I imagine stories like this are common in Eastern Europe. I was actually surprised that on my DNA results I had little if any Jewish ancestry. I know those things aren’t perfectly accurate though.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:28:26am

re: #310 thecommodore

Here we go with another case of “Whataboutism.” Hannity and the Trumpsters will harp on this to equivocate about any revelations that have come out or will come out about Mueller’s investigation of Trump-Russia.

I could only take so much of the tone of “We finally tied Clinton to Russia.” Hopefully there’s other sources.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:28:50am

re: #340 HappyWarrior

No, I remembered the Polish one because of it being him and his wife. I remember this one as well. I imagine stories like this are common in Eastern Europe. I was actually surprised that on my DNA results I had little if any Jewish ancestry. I know those things aren’t perfectly accurate though.

I would like to take one of those ancestry tests. Which one do you recommend?

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wrenchwench  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:30:13am

I never thought I’d be posting slime mold.

Until Trump was elected.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:30:13am

re: #341 Belafon

I could only take so much of the tone of “We finally tied Clinton to Russia.” Hopefully there’s other sources.

The “Uranium” thing is an old, bogus fake outrage. The Foxturds are desperate.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:30:46am

re: #342 The Vicious Babushka

I would like to take one of those ancestry tests. Which one do you recommend?

Well it depends VB. Are you looking for accuracy and detail or are you trying to connect with possible cousins? If the former, 23 and me is probably the best. If the latter, ancestry.com.

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Sea Mexican!  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:32:56am

re: #274 Citizen K

But remember, it’s the San Juan mayor who was ignored as ‘political noise’ and dismissed out of hand by officials, despite being one of the people doing her damnedest on the street level and above.

Thank goodness she has been using her megaphone. Her experiences have been echoed throughout the Island by many mayors.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:33:33am

re: #342 The Vicious Babushka

I would like to take one of those ancestry tests. Which one do you recommend?

I did the 23&Me test and have had no complaints.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:34:32am

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

I did the 23&Me test and have had no complaints.

Our family’s are from the same region in Slovakia as I recall. Probably going there next summer with some cousins to meet other cousins that still live there.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:35:13am
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Sea Mexican!  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:35:26am

re: #319 jaunte

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Great articule, except for one little nitpick.

Confusing national level affiliations with state level affiliations. Calling Roselló Jr a Democrat is about as accurate as calling Trump a Tory.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:37:49am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:38:12am

VB, this is what the results would look like if you took the ancestry.com test. These are my results and estimates. It would also show you people who they deem to be fourth cousins or closer. The most distant cousin I’ve connected with through my results is a man whose second great grandfather was a sibling of my third great grandmother in County Mayo.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:38:42am

re: #345 HappyWarrior

Well it depends VB. Are you looking for accuracy and detail or are you trying to connect with possible cousins? If the former, 23 and me is probably the best. If the latter, ancestry.com.

23&Me also upgrade their tests from time to time. MrBWS has gotten extra detailed info over the past 10 years (yep, that’s how long ago we did ours).

MrBWS has also connected up with a few new cousins and has been able to assist with their genealogy (MrBWS can trace his paternal family line uninterrupted back to ~1600 when they came here from northern England).

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:39:26am

“If it instigates a spiritual and patriotic feeling in this country, I’m thrilled,” Gaudry said of her video. “I’m not real thrilled with the attention to myself.”

Come on now.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:39:52am

re: #351 jaunte

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Seems to me she wanted 15 mins of fame and got it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:40:01am

re: #348 HappyWarrior

Our family’s are from the same region in Slovakia as I recall. Probably going there next summer with some cousins to meet other cousins that still live there.

They are…villages within about 20-30 miles IIRC.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:41:19am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:41:28am

re: #353 Backwoods_Sleuth

23&Me also upgrade their tests from time to time. MrBWS has gotten extra detailed info over the past 10 years (yep, that’s how long ago we did ours).

MrBWS has also connected up with a few new cousins and has been able to assist with their genealogy (MrBWS can trace his paternal family line uninterrupted back to ~1600 when they came here from northern England).

I need to do 23 and me at some point. I’m actually shocked how far I’ve been able to trace my paternal grandfather’s line in Germany. Funny thing is the oldest born person with my surname literally has my surname except the German version.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:41:52am

There are lies, damned lies, and four-star general lies.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:42:35am

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

They are…villages within about 20-30 miles IIRC.

Not sure. I recently joined a Carpatho-Rusyn group on Facebook. Enjoying learning more about that culture.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:43:10am
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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:44:08am

re: #351 jaunte

Just found out from my little sister last night that she encountered one of these performative circle jerks.

She and her friends were doing Sunday fun day at a club/bar in the club district in old town Scottsdale to hang out and watch some NFL games. She said this loud ass club full of drunk folks cut the music off and asked everyone to stand for the anthem before one of the games. Club was about 90% white and 10% black. All the black folks remained seated.

So ridiculous.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:44:11am
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Belafon  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:44:45am

re: #357 jaunte

While we definitely don’t want Trump left alone, the thing about Kelly is that just about everything being done by ICE was his creation: dailykos.com.

On February 10, as the raids kicked off, an ICE executive in Washington sent a directive to the agency’s chiefs of staff around the country. “Please put together a white paper covering the three most egregious cases,” for each location, the acting chief of staff of ICE’s Enforcement and Removal Operations wrote in the email. “If a location has only one egregious case — then include an extra egregious case from another city.”

As a reader of The Intercept pointed out, the email’s subject line — “Due Tonight for S1 – URGENT” — meant that the request had been made by the secretary of Homeland Security himself, referred to as “S1” in department shorthand.

Kelly wanted a smear campaign set up against immigrants, so he wanted ICE to collect the really bad ones. The problem was that most immigrants were not criminals.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:44:57am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:45:06am

re: #363 FormerDirtDart

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That’s a relief.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:46:38am

Well, that didn’t last long

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:47:48am
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Belafon  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:48:19am

re: #367 FormerDirtDart

Well, that didn’t last long

One senator. They can push through if they want to.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:48:24am
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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:51:29am

re: #368 FormerDirtDart

Woohoo!

Bring on 4.0 for the next smackdown!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:55:54am

re: #352 HappyWarrior

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VB, this is what the results would look like if you took the ancestry.com test. These are my results and estimates. It would also show you people who they deem to be fourth cousins or closer. The most distant cousin I’ve connected with through my results is a man whose second great grandfather was a sibling of my third great grandmother in County Mayo.

23&Me is similar. They also have a few other reports including this one that is kind of neat:

hovering my mouse over each of those blocks gives more info (ie: the British/Irish is 100% my father’s side of the family, everything else is mostly my mom’s).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:56:47am

re: #358 HappyWarrior

I need to do 23 and me at some point. I’m actually shocked how far I’ve been able to trace my paternal grandfather’s line in Germany. Funny thing is the oldest born person with my surname literally has my surname except the German version.

when you do, let me know so we can share genome info. We might be related after all.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:58:33am

re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth

when you do, let me know so we can share genome info. We might be related after all.

Will do.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:01:13pm

The ADL has now picked up on my story about the Rage Furby and Dana Rohrabacher meeting with Rand Paul (via The Forward, of course, because LGF is just a lowly blog not worthy of notice).

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:01:48pm

re: #369 Belafon

One senator. They can push through if they want to.

He’s a member of the House, not a Senator.And, passing in the Senate is childsplay compared to pushing it through the House

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:02:38pm
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Belafon  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:03:27pm

re: #376 FormerDirtDart

He’s a member of the House, not a Senator.And, passing in the Senate is childsplay compared to pushing it through the House

Thanks. I missed that. And you’re right, and it also depends on how much Republicans are willing to start breaking ranks.

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wrenchwench  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:03:30pm

re: #371 JordanRules

Woohoo!

Bring on 45 for the next smackdown!

FTFY

/dreaming

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:07:11pm

The latest weird theory I’m seeing on Facebook is that Trump is using a Melania body double for some presidential visits.

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451_Montag  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:08:16pm

re: #380 makeitstop

The latest weird theory I’m seeing on Facebook is that Trump is using a Melania body double for some presidential visits.

How the hell does the fat orange fuck fit into it?

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Kragar  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:08:53pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:08:54pm

And he brought donuts

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bratwurst  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:12:37pm

re: #380 makeitstop

The latest weird theory I’m seeing on Facebook is that Trump is using a Melania body double for some presidential visits.

So many legitimate and IMPORTANT things to be concerned about in this administration…why people want to invest themselves in bizarre nonsense like this I will never understand.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:12:51pm

re: #380 makeitstop

The latest weird theory I’m seeing on Facebook is that Trump is using a Melania body double for some presidential visits.

Are they suggesting a mistress?

Dog help us.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:13:06pm

re: #380 makeitstop

The latest weird theory I’m seeing on Facebook is that Trump is using a Melania body double for some presidential visits.

one robot pretty much looks like another…

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:18:02pm

re: #385 Stanley Sea

Are they suggesting a mistress?

Dog help us.

No, just a double. I guess in case Mel decides she’s not going on a visit.

But it strikes me as weird that he drags her around to all these disasters, and has her sit at the table with responders and politicians. I don’t really remember any president doing that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:22:13pm

re: #387 makeitstop

No, just a double. I guess in case Mel decides she’s not going on a visit.

But it strikes me as weird that he drags her around to all these disasters, and has her sit at the table with responders and politicians. I don’t really remember any president doing that.

I think it’s like Palin always dragging one or more of her kids along so people wouldn’t boo. And if they did, she would claim they were booing her kids.

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MsJ  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:25:40pm

I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone but I have a serious question to ask you guys…why does Ancestry, 23&Me and the like hold such interest to you? When I watch the commercials about a guy who wore lederhosen and danced German dances his whole life and then had to change to Celtic dress and dancing (something like that), I just do not see the ‘pull’. I can’t muster interest. What am I missing?

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MsJ  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:26:34pm

re: #385 Stanley Sea

Are they suggesting a mistress?

Dog help us.

More likely covering up the fact that she hates being out of her gold plated penthouse and having to pretend to give a shit about the little people who shit on her when she was a little person.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:27:33pm

re: #389 MsJ

I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone but I have a serious question to ask you guys…why does Ancestry, 23&Me and the like hold such interest to you? When I watch the commercials about a guy who wore lederhosen and danced German dances his whole life and then had to change to Celtic dress and dancing (something like that), I just do not see the ‘pull’. I can’t muster interest. What am I missing?

I wanted to know.
I had the testing done long before those silly commercials.

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Kragar  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:27:48pm

re: #389 MsJ

I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone but I have a serious question to ask you guys…why does Ancestry, 23&Me and the like hold such interest to you? When I watch the commercials about a guy who wore lederhosen and danced German dances his whole life and then had to change to Celtic dress and dancing (something like that), I just do not see the ‘pull’. I can’t muster interest. What am I missing?

Absolutely nothing

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:28:17pm

re: #301 makeitstop

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So how much did they pay HA Goodwin?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:29:18pm

re: #389 MsJ

I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone but I have a serious question to ask you guys…why does Ancestry, 23&Me and the like hold such interest to you? When I watch the commercials about a guy who wore lederhosen and danced German dances his whole life and then had to change to Celtic dress and dancing (something like that), I just do not see the ‘pull’. I can’t muster interest. What am I missing?

To me, it’s pretty neat to know where your family came from originally. But more over, I like being able to meet distant cousins. It can be quite humbling to talk to someone who share a set of great great grandparents with. But I think it’s really the history major in me. I have a vivid imagination and I like to try to imagine what my family was doing while all that’s happened and if I know where they lived, it’s a little easier.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:30:14pm

re: #391 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wanted to know.
I had the testing done long before those silly commercials.

Yeah the commercials are silly.

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wrenchwench  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:30:39pm

re: #389 MsJ

I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone but I have a serious question to ask you guys…why does Ancestry, 23&Me and the like hold such interest to you? When I watch the commercials about a guy who wore lederhosen and danced German dances his whole life and then had to change to Celtic dress and dancing (something like that), I just do not see the ‘pull’. I can’t muster interest. What am I missing?

I feel like I know enough to know that I do not need (or want) to know more.

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Kragar  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:30:55pm
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Dr. Matt  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:31:11pm

Does anyone else feel that Dotard behavior is like 100% worse than ever before? I know the bar is already so fucking low. But, this week really is exceedingly weird.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:31:25pm

Also neat to talk to cousins that still live in the part of Europe where your family came from. A young man whose great grandfather was my great grandfather’s younger brother had no idea he had family in the U.S. before he started researching and found my work. I’ve told him about our family in America and he’s told about ours in Slovenia confirming some family lore too.

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:31:55pm

re: #389 MsJ

Genealogy is pretty cool and humans have always wanted to know more about themselves and their family.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:33:08pm

Also, MrBWS’s family has been involved in a huge family genome study for years, which is how we finally decided to get tested (him for the family study and me just because).

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:33:27pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:33:53pm

re: #400 JordanRules

Genealogy is pretty cool and humans have always wanted to know more about themselves and their family.

Especially those who were adopted or lost their parents young I imagine. As I said, I think it ultimately comes from being a former history major, having a vivid imagination, and fond memories of my grandparents who have since passed away. Plus, I never knew my Dad’s Dad. I guess being able to point to a place on a map and know your family lived there for generations is kind of neat. I don’t really care about my genetic make up. That’s not going to change who I am culturally.

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MsJ  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:34:56pm

re: #398 Dr. Matt

Does anyone else feel that Dotard behavior is like 100% worse than ever before? I know the bar is already so fucking low. But, this week really is exceedingly weird.

Is it? It just seems like another week to me. After “Rocket Man” it’s gonna take a lot more than dissing Gold Star families (that’s way old news, pre-election news olds news). To me, this is just another week with a moron threatening the largest economy in the world.

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wrenchwench  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:36:22pm

re: #401 Backwoods_Sleuth

Also, MrBWS’s family has involved in a huge family genome study for years, which is how we finally decided to get tested (him for the family study and me just because).

Here’s my ‘Also’:

Mr. w and his sister set up a meeting with an attorney to find out whether the attorney knew he was their brother from another mother. Turns out Mr. w was the last to know. Of everybody in town.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:38:38pm

re: #405 wrenchwench

happens more often than one would think.

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Interesting Times  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:38:48pm

re: #404 MsJ

Is it? It just seems like another week to me. After “Rocket Man” it’s gonna take a lot more than dissing Gold Star families (that’s way old news, pre-election news olds news). To me, this is just another week with a moron threatening the largest economy in the world.

He’s like a pile of toxic orange sewage sludge that, while already malodorous, every now and then emits an especially pungent stench 🤢

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wrenchwench  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:39:25pm

re: #406 Backwoods_Sleuth

happens more often than one would think.

Creates issues in the dating years.

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petesh  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:39:57pm

re: #406 Backwoods_Sleuth

happens more often than one would think.

“Your daddy’s not your daddy but your daddy don’t know” — calypso dating back to the 1950s that I’m sure I could find on YouTube if I bothered.

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KGxvi  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:41:01pm

re: #402 JordanRules

Question is could that deal pass a GOP House and Trump’s desk.

Trump is an incurious narcissist who has no understanding of policy. All he knows is that he wants “to win”, which to him, at this moment means “signing a bill into law”. Anything can be in that bill, you just have to tell him it will have tremendous results and make everything better (believe me) and that many people are saying that this will be good for health care - maybe get those morons on The Five and/or Fox and Friends to say that it’s good news for Trump - and he will sign the bill.

Seriously, I’m fairly certain at this point if someone slipped a resignation letter in front of him at a signing ceremony, he’d sign it without thinking twice.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:41:17pm

re: #389 MsJ

I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone but I have a serious question to ask you guys…why does Ancestry, 23&Me and the like hold such interest to you? When I watch the commercials about a guy who wore lederhosen and danced German dances his whole life and then had to change to Celtic dress and dancing (something like that), I just do not see the ‘pull’. I can’t muster interest. What am I missing?

Doesn’t the report also identify genetic defects that may cause you or relatives health problems? Some of us are concerned about certain diseases that run in the family. I haven’t yet taken the test but am planning on doing so.

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:41:57pm

Give them hell DMV area peeps!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:42:02pm

re: #411 Hecuba’s daughter

Doesn’t the report also identify genetic defects that may cause you or relatives health problems? Some of us are concerned about certain diseases that run in the family. I haven’t yet taken the test but am planning on doing so.

23 and Me does. Ancestry, no.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:43:06pm

re: #410 KGxvi

Trump is an incurious narcissist who has no understanding of policy. All he knows is that he wants “to win”, which to him, at this moment means “signing a bill into law”. Anything can be in that bill, you just have to tell him it will have tremendous results and make everything better (believe me) and that many people are saying that this will be good for health care - maybe get those morons on The Five and/or Fox and Friends to say that it’s good news for Trump - and he will sign the bill.

Seriously, I’m fairly certain at this point if someone slipped a resignation letter in front of him at a signing ceremony, he’d sign it without thinking twice.

if he didn’t wander out of the room first…

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Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:43:34pm
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Kragar  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:44:00pm
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bratwurst  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:44:27pm

OH NOES! Drudge has a sad that poor people will not be losing their health care for at least 2 more years.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:46:00pm

re: #416 Kragar

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Waaaah.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:47:14pm

re: #417 bratwurst

OH NOES! Drudge has a sad that poor people will not be losing their health care for at least 2 more years.

[Embedded content]

Let’s hope the Senate passes it and the House concurs. Paul Ryan is a loathsome fraud and I wouldn’t put anything past him.

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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:47:25pm

Actions have consequences:

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KGxvi  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:47:35pm

re: #389 MsJ

I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone but I have a serious question to ask you guys…why does Ancestry, 23&Me and the like hold such interest to you? When I watch the commercials about a guy who wore lederhosen and danced German dances his whole life and then had to change to Celtic dress and dancing (something like that), I just do not see the ‘pull’. I can’t muster interest. What am I missing?

I’ve thought about it, just because a lot of my family tree is sort of in the weeds (despite the best efforts of the Mormon branch). It wouldn’t change much of anything for me because I know that I’m more or less a mutt and where my ancestors came from is less important than where my grandparents came from, which is less important than where my parents came from, which is less important than where I came from and where I’m going. But it’s still intriguing.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:50:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:50:57pm

I really REALLY hate Mitch…

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MsJ  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:51:31pm

re: #408 wrenchwench

Creates issues in the dating years.

Oh my!

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Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:51:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:52:06pm

omg…I am laughing so much…

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Interesting Times  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:52:15pm

re: #412 JordanRules

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Give them hell DMV area peeps!

*sigh* I wish they (Dem establishment originally?) had chosen a different hashtag. Out of context, #NotOnePenny is pretty meaningless and open to abuse (durr hurr, they don’t want Real ‘Muricans getting one penny in tax cuts!!1!). An effective hashtag is one that can stand alone, e.g. #NoMuslimBan #NoWall

So…something like #NoWelfareForWealthy or #RichWinYouLose would’ve been better IMO.

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ObserverArt  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:52:23pm

I don’t know if Trump has gotten worse this week because it is always worse with Trump. There is no bottom.

But, from all the tweets and videos, and all the other images of Trump from his two gigs yesterday and one today he sure is getting the cocky Benito Mussolini face expressions down.

I guess the more he lies the more he has to strike that nose up pose. Or, he really thinks he is in control of things, and he has gotten his revenge on that Obama guy, how dare he mock me The Great Trump.

Our president is an asshole!

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MsJ  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:52:31pm

re: #411 Hecuba’s daughter

Doesn’t the report also identify genetic defects that may cause you or relatives health problems? Some of us are concerned about certain diseases that run in the family. I haven’t yet taken the test but am planning on doing so.

I don’t think that is allowed in the US. It is in Canada so both 23&Me and Ancestry Canada offer that information.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:53:33pm

re: #425 Charles Johnson

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But I imagine that there are quite a few wingnuts in a lather awaiting college records from a school that Obama never went to.

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Kragar  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:53:39pm
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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:53:59pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:54:06pm

re: #430 b.d. (bill d.)

But I imagine that there are quite a few wingnuts in a lather awaiting college records from a school that Obama never went to.

And then when the records prove he didn’t go there, expect lots of Nirther bullshit.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:54:07pm

A pair of leading Republican and Democratic senators reached an agreement Tuesday to fund key federal health-care subsidies that President Trump ended last week — and the president expressed support for the plan.

aaaaaaand the insurance company lobbyists earn their $2000 guccis once again

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:54:39pm

re: #427 Interesting Times

You make great points here. The hashtag is not great at all.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:55:02pm
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Kragar  Oct 17, 2017 • 12:56:45pm
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Jay C  Oct 17, 2017 • 1:08:25pm

re: #436 Ace-o-aces

Is everything a fucking conspiracy to these people?

In short, yes.

Next question?
(probably on next thread….?)

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gocart mozart  Oct 17, 2017 • 1:14:52pm

re: #425 Charles Johnson

Just some more right wing fake news from an impersonator account.

Obama did not go to University of Hawaii, he went 1st to Occidental College and then transfered to Columbia

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 17, 2017 • 1:25:34pm

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If I was spinning for Trump, I would say that as the richest nation on Earth and the third largest in terms of population. Americans pay more tax than any other nation on Earth, even if we don’t rank that high on a per capita basis.


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Detroit Local Powers First EV Charging Road in North America The road, about a mile from Local 58's hall, uses rubber-coated copper inductive-charging coils buried under the asphalt that transfer power to a receiver pad attached to a car's underbelly, much like how a phone can be charged wirelessly. ...
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