And Now, an Exceptional NPR Tiny Desk Concert by Randy Newman

Where is my wandering boy?
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Oct. 10, 2017 | Bob Boilen — I think Randy Newman is a national treasure. If he was just a funny guy making music, I’d be OK with that, but his wit is sardonic, satirical and politically on point. Mixing politics and humor with music is usually about the punchline, and his punchlines even make the singer smile.

Randy Newman paints lasting portraits of places and people, all the while poking fun and highlighting injustice, stupidity, power and humanity and he’s been doing it for half a century. Here are the opening lines to his recently released song “Putin”:

“Putin puttin’ his pants on / One leg at a time / You mean he’s just like a regular fella, huh? / He ain’t nothing like a regular fella.”
His new album, Dark Matter, is his first batch of songs in nine years and there’s more than the usual biting Newman wit; there’s also a tender heart. And watching the 73-year-old songwriter amble to the Tiny Desk and singing these words, had me crying for sentiment so full of heart:

“I’m not much to talk to, and I know how I look / What I know ‘bout life comes out of a book / But of all of the people there are in the world / She chose me.”
Watch this grand master play.

Set List

“Putin”
“She Chose Me”
“It’s A Jungle Out There”
“Wandering Boy”

MUSICIAN

Randy Newman (vocals, piano)

CREDITS

Creative Director: Bob Boilen; Producers: Bob Boilen, Bronson Arcuri; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Bronson Arcuri, Morgan Noelle Smith; Production Assistant: Tsering Bista; Photo: Liam James Doyle/NPR.

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330 comments

1
Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:50:25pm

Now Trump will probably attack Rep. Wilson too.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:50:34pm

You would not be surprised that at FOX News’s Website, there is no mention of Donald Trump’s horrendous statement.

On top of their Website is a claim that the people at Fusion GPS (the firm that developed the Steele Dossier) are in the habit of smearing people.

Firm behind anti-Trump dossier labeled critic a ‘pedophile,’ ‘extortionist’ and ‘drug trafficker’

The self-described ‘strategic intelligence’ firm Fusion GPS that was behind the controversial anti-Trump dossier has a track record of intimidation and smear tactics, according to congressional testimony and the firsthand account of a London-based Venezuelan journalist.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:51:58pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:52:22pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:53:34pm

How sad it is that any place online where decent people gather and the term MOTHERFUCKER appears by itself, there can be no doubt that it refers to the US president.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:54:17pm

FOX desperately trying to deflect:

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teleskiguy  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:55:31pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:56:29pm

So much Trump news today and all bad. Israel destroyed a Syrian SAM radar and control vehicles after they had dared to fire a large nearly obsolete anti air missile at Israeli warplanes.
thedrive.com
The punchline is that the Syrian air defense network is integrated with the Russian installations there. Seems Russia has no taste to escalate against us or Israel at this particular time.

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austin_blue  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:57:03pm

re: #4 Anymouse 🌹

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Vacation In Cambodia is not a foreign policy.

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teleskiguy  Oct 17, 2017 • 8:59:06pm

If Ivanka Trump actually listened to real punk rock music, she’d roll up in the fetal position covering her ears yelling STOP! STOP THIS NOISE!!!

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scottslemmons  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:00:01pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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Now Trump will probably attack Rep. Wilson too.

Don’t you wish. He’s going to attack the widow. And possibly the dead servicemen, too.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:00:10pm

Major media running with it

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teleskiguy  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:01:05pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:08:11pm

OT: Yesterday I discussed my problem with Microsoft Office losing support this month. After weighing recommendations, I went to the computer shop in Scottsbluff (along with doing a whole bunch of other stuff).

Concerning my questions about updating Office 2016, they called Microsoft to ask about their Website (since the computer shop has the ability to call Microsoft and ask them questions). Microsoft cleared up the update question for me, so I purchased the Home version of Office 2016. (It does not have Access and Publisher - I only use Access for my lists of songs I play and have only used Publisher once, so I don’t think I really need to pay $200 more to get those.)

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austin_blue  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:10:44pm

A low of 48 tonight here in South Austin. An extra binky on the bed. The cat will add extra heat. Good night, all, sweet scaly dreams.

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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:15:18pm

Imagine my surprise that, when Donny finally gets around to making a call to the family after having been shamed into doing so, he does what he does best: Show as little class as possible because he’s being forced into doing something he doesn’t want to do..

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:16:52pm

re: #12 FormerDirtDart

Major media running with it

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Found this in the comments:

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:17:43pm

re: #15 austin_blue

A low of 48 tonight here in South Austin. An extra binky on the bed. The cat will add extra heat. Good night, all, sweet scaly dreams.

It’s warmer here now at 49° and supposed to get down to 40°.

Amongst other things I did today, I stopped at a tire shop to order new tires for my car (mine are down to the wear bars and winter is coming).

The mechanic saw the car sitting in front of the shop and asked “is that your car?” He then walked out to check it out, rubbing his hands together like a banker who just found a pile of gold …

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:19:04pm

This dick ought to be reported … I assume Twitter would do nothing though.

Perhaps a dogpile on his feed would be appropriate for those on Twitter to do.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:19:43pm
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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:19:44pm
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TedStriker  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:21:04pm

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹

This dick ought to be reported … I assume Twitter would do nothing though.

Perhaps a dogpile on his feed would be appropriate for those on Twitter to do.

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Nah, I think he’s asking Trump that stuff to bait him, at least that’s how I read it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:22:14pm

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹

Looking at the rest of his feed, you may be misinterpreting this. I had to do a tripletake myself. But he’s no fan of Trump from what I can tell.

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TedStriker  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:23:18pm

re: #23 GlutenFreeJesus

Looking at the rest of his feed, you may be misinterpreting this. I had to do a tripletake myself. But he’s no fan of Trump from what I can tell.

Likewise here…it appears that “Montana John” is most decidedly anti-Trump.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:25:40pm

Just a semantic note - I’ve read three different versions of that quote so far. I’d bet that when Huckabee defends this shit tomorrow, she’ll point out that the rep couldn’t keep her story straight or some nonsense.

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danarchy  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:26:10pm

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹

This dick ought to be reported … I assume Twitter would do nothing though.

Perhaps a dogpile on his feed would be appropriate for those on Twitter to do.

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Reported for what? I read that as mocking Trump’s inevitable lashing out…

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:27:15pm

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹

This dick ought to be reported … I assume Twitter would do nothing though.

Perhaps a dogpile on his feed would be appropriate for those on Twitter to do.

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It’s sarcasm. He’s basically saying that’s how Trump views them. His POV is pretty obvious if you look at his other recent tweets.

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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:28:51pm

re: #25 makeitstop

Just a semantic note - I’ve read three different versions of that quote so far. I’d bet that when Huckabee defends this shit tomorrow, she’ll point out that the rep couldn’t keep her story straight or some nonsense.

Huckaboo is going to simply declare that it’s absolutely false, that it’s obviously false because the source is not only a woman and black but a Democrat atop those, and that her boss gave words of sincerity to this widow that Obama never could. She’ll basically dare the widow to come forward to call her a liar, the poor woman knowing that doing so will turn her into the target for vicious attacks by Trump and his hooded lynch mob.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:29:22pm

re: #22 TedStriker

re: #23 GlutenFreeJesus

re: #24 TedStriker

It does look as though he is not a fan of Donald Trump. The tweet standing alone is out of context from the rest of his tweets.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:30:32pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:38:34pm
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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:41:39pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:43:17pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:43:36pm

That Gordon Hayward injury is right up there with Fran Tarkenton in the *EW OMG* department. You’ve been warned.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:44:18pm

The only wingnut site I can find covering Trump’s monstrous statement is RedState:

Trump’s Monstrous Insensitivity to the Families of Fallen Soldiers: Two Related Anecdotes

RedState notes that in a meeting today with Greece’s leader in the Rose Garden, John Kelly, who is always at Trump’s side, was notably absent.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:49:08pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 17, 2017 • 9:50:50pm

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹

Because even people who can afford if just love going to the damn doctor all the time.

//

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teleskiguy  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:03:48pm

And Fuckface Von Clownstick sleeps like a fucking baby at night because he’s an unfeeling sociopath. What a goddamned disgrace.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:07:47pm

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹

I’m just waiting for 19th Century Fox to start showing commercials for Soylent Green…

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:10:31pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:14:49pm

This should be Fuckface Von Clownstick’s official White House portrait.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:18:20pm

re: #38 teleskiguy

And Fuckface Von Clownstick sleeps like a fucking baby at night because he’s an unfeeling sociopath. What a goddamned disgrace.

He’s not the worst. He’s bad enough, but not the worst.

It’s every last Republican politician who supports him and will not call him out.

We see an occasional flash of sentience, such as Sens. McCain or Corker, when they call out some specific thing, then go right back to supporting him. Not a one of them will publicly say there is anything wrong with any of this.

It might even be possible he could behave more like an actual politician than a fourth-grade bully if one of them, even one, would insist on it on pain of non-support of his agenda (such as it is), or impeachment.

But not one conservative politician, even so-called moderates as Susan Collins or Lisa Murkowski will call him out and say “no more, you’re done.”

The GOP politicians are worse, because they allow it. They do not care if he tears apart the country as long as they get their damn tax cuts and wealthcare for billionaires.

It was apparent when Trump spouted that initial lie about previous presidents not contacting the families of fallen service members (my mother still has the telegram from President Johnson).

Mitch McConnell just stood there and smiled. He could have leaned over and said something quietly to Trump to allow him a chance to correct that. McConnell didn’t.

Trump might be a cartoon villain, but the rest are just villains.

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Nyet  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:19:49pm

A Russian Jew vs. an American Arab in what some say is the biggest rap battle in history.

KOTD - Oxxxymiron (RU) vs Dizaster (USA) | #WDVII

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:22:21pm
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Kragar  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:45:07pm
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VegasGolfer  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:47:37pm

re: #45 Kragar

Fake. Hands are too big

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Renaissance_Man  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:53:41pm

re: #45 Kragar

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Obvious photoshop.

Hand’s too big.

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Bass Reeves  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:58:01pm

re: #6 Anymouse 🌹

The headline/article is interesting, in that possession of government documents on your personal computer is not, in fact, illegal. Duh? WTF do these people think you are asking for when you submit a FOIA request?

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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2017 • 10:58:16pm

Nothing quite like being a grieving widow who is told by the CinC that your husband knew he was being sent to his death.

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Kragar  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:04:14pm

re: #49 Targetpractice

Trump originally planned to say “your husband died doing what he loved… being hunted by terrorists while cut off and wondering where his back up was” but thought it was too long and wanted to cut it short.

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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:05:41pm

re: #50 Kragar

Trump originally planned to say “your husband died doing what he loved… being hunted by terrorists while cut off and wondering where his back up was” but thought it was too long and wanted to cut it short.

He’s a men of few words. But they’re the best words!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:10:21pm

re: #48 Bass Reeves

The headline/article is interesting, in that possession of government documents on your personal computer is not, in fact, illegal. Duh? WTF do these people think you are asking for when you submit a FOIA request?

Yeah, it doesn’t make much sense unless said documents are classified in some way, or the possessor is unauthorised to have them.

I have a bunch of government documents on my computer, from state water test results to a searchable PDF of all the ordinances of my village, to a bunch of information about my father’s missions from Operation Market Time in Vietnam that I got from FOIA requests directly from his P-3 squadron.

FOX is trying (with lying by omission) by conflating “government documents” with “unlawfully-possessed government documents.”

They are also deflecting from Trump’s Dumpster Fire today, but that’s another issue.

Now if Anthony Weiner actually does have government documents on his cell phone (and I’m not sure how you could get that many on a cell phone, though I don’t know how cell phones work), and he is not authorised to have them, this liberal would want him interrogated and prosecuted.

That would be the difference between me and the talking heads at FOX: They don’t care about the daily criminality apparently displayed by the maladministration. I care about people who are or were in the Democratic Party doing unlawful things.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:13:41pm

re: #52 Anymouse 🌹

Oops, laptop, not cell phone. I can see how you can get that many documents on your laptop; I have far more government documents on mine.

Maybe FOX should report on me.

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JordanRules  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:43:39pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2017 • 11:57:13pm

Remember, on October 13, Mr. Trump issued a Presidential Proclamation declaring “National Character Counts Week.” His call to Sgt. Johnson’s wife sure showed his. You can’t make this stuff up.

whitehouse.gov

And no GOP politician has said a damn thing about this, and FOX News Channel is doing everything it can to deflect from this monstrous statement he made. I don’t ever want to hear a GOP politician or Trump supporter ever again claim they care about the troops, veterans, or Gold Star Families unless they condemn this action, demand an apology, or move to set aside this man from office.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 18, 2017 • 12:07:41am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 18, 2017 • 12:13:22am

I’ve been in a back-and-forth with the state Gold Star Mothers president. (I went through this when Donald Trump attacked the Khan family, and Carl Paladino compared Gold Star Family members to terrorism supporters a couple days later.)

She is in a bind: The Gold Star Mothers organisation is a Congressionally-chartered organisation. As such, they cannot speak out against the president or other politicians who make such horrible statements.

I told her, “I can, and I will.” I might be part of the organisation, but I am also a (local) politician, and I do not speak for the Gold Star Mothers group.

I guess it’s time to limber up my letter to the editor pen again… .

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 18, 2017 • 12:42:34am

Got a letter back from Planned Parenthood in the mail yesterday (I just opened it). They acknowledged receipt of my cheque from a few days ago. (Considering where I live, I am surprised my letter to them or the letter back didn’t take a side trip to Timbuktu.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 18, 2017 • 12:57:48am
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 18, 2017 • 1:19:33am

re: #12 FormerDirtDart

Major media running with it

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Wow. What a pig. No empathy. Figures he said that to the Black soldier’s wife.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 18, 2017 • 1:20:07am

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹

I’ve never seen Trump cry.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 18, 2017 • 1:26:57am
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sagehen  Oct 18, 2017 • 1:34:42am
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Targetpractice  Oct 18, 2017 • 1:41:06am

I guess in retrospect it shouldn’t surprise us that a man who boasted about how his eyesore of a tower was suddenly the tallest in NYC when talking about 9/11 would respond to a wife’s agony over the sudden and unexplained death of her husband with the equivalent of “Shit happens.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 18, 2017 • 1:43:38am

re: #64 Targetpractice

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 18, 2017 • 1:51:06am

US veterans sue drug companies over Iraq bribes (Goes to the Financial Times):

Several US veterans and relatives of American soldiers killed or wounded in Iraq on Tuesday sued five pharmaceutical and medical equipment makers, saying the companies in effect funded an Iraqi terrorist militia that killed hundreds of American soldiers in the years following the 2003 US-led invasion.

The civil lawsuit, filed in federal court in Washington, accuses the five multinationals of routinely bribing Iraqi Ministry of Health officials to win drug contracts when the office was controlled by the virulently anti-American Jaysh al-Mahdi or Mahdi Army.

Named in the suit are the parent companies and subsidiaries of AstraZeneca, General Electric, Johnson & Johnson, Pfizer and Roche Holding.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 18, 2017 • 2:05:42am

Who is this crank? It’s liberals who are generally opposed to militarism, not conservatives. And what about all us liberal veterans, who have been liberals all our lives?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 18, 2017 • 2:49:06am

Well, our president is an international embarrassment (again), this time over Trump’s insensitive telephone call.

bbc.com

North Korea claiming “nuclear war could break out at any moment” (so I am sure the ever-rational and pragmatic Donald Trump will be able to deal with North Korean diplomacy):

dw.com

Pyongyang said it wants a nuclear-free world, but a nuclear war might still start due to an “extreme and direct” US threat. Washington has separately hinted that it could be open to direct talks with the pariah regime.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 18, 2017 • 2:53:16am

Meanwhile Canada is making fun of Trump’s derp over NFL players kneeling in protest of police violence during the national anthem.

Unclear Whether Curler Is Kneeling for Anthem or Just Practising (goes to the CBC):

Confusion reigned during the semi-finals of the Whole Wheat Kraft Dinner Invitational Bonspiel this week, when it appeared that Gus Spellington, skip for the Moosejaw squad, may have been taking a knee during the national anthem to make a social statement.

Or else he was practicing his delivery. There would really be no way to tell. They look the same.

This network’s tradition of not interviewing curlers at any time or for any reason prevents us from gathering further information, but rest assured we will continue trying to guess.

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freetoken  Oct 18, 2017 • 3:09:16am

Just felt a sharp jolt a couple of minutes ago…

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freetoken  Oct 18, 2017 • 3:09:58am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2017 • 3:10:36am

re: #70 freetoken

Just felt a sharp jolt a couple of minutes ago…

a short, sharp shock?

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freetoken  Oct 18, 2017 • 3:12:19am

re: #72 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

a short, sharp shock?

First a little wiggle, then a second later a sharp jolt, though not strong enough to make anything sway.

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freetoken  Oct 18, 2017 • 3:13:48am

M3.5

But it was in the exact same place as a 3.1 yesterday, less than 24 hours before.

Up in Earthquake Valley.

Which is called that for a reason.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2017 • 3:14:37am

re: #73 freetoken

First a little wiggle, then a second later a sharp jolt, though not strong enough to make anything sway.

Fake Hollywood earthquake footage (1933)

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 18, 2017 • 3:17:47am

snopes.com

CLAIM

A pro football fan sat on the United States flag while wearing a shirt that read: “I stand for the national anthem.”
RATING: TRUE

While President Donald Trump has argued that player protests against extrajudicial police killings show disrespect for the U.S. flag, a photograph published by the sports news web site Deadspin on 16 October 2017 shows at least one pro football fan visibly tarnishing the flag.

The image shows an unidentified man wearing a t-shirt bearing the phrase, “I STAND FOR THE NATIONAL ANTHEM” under the logo for the New York Jets. (more)

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2017 • 3:32:52am

He’s taking a shit.

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Weaselone  Oct 18, 2017 • 3:37:52am

re: #77 teleskiguy

So basically he’s confirming that Comey knew there was no there there well before the investigation concluded.

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2017 • 3:45:26am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2017 • 4:04:49am

he is nutz

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2017 • 4:05:57am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2017 • 4:07:06am

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

he is nutz

As it has turned out, James Comey lied and leaked and totally protected Hillary Clinton. He was the best thing that ever happened to her!

Why? He knows that media and Internet will now repeat this comment as if it were God’s Own Truth

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2017 • 4:10:34am
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weave  Oct 18, 2017 • 4:15:14am

I can’t believe this. Over on T_D, a post basically blaming everyone on the left for the Jennifer Lawrence sexual assault charge.

Jennifer Lawrence had to stand nude in a lineup and told to lose weight. Reese Witherspoon sexually assaulted at 16. Yet WE are the ones waging war on the women????

But the top rated comments? BLAMING THE VICTIM. A minor. It was her fault because she didn’t refuse and walk away.

Here’s a screenshot if you don’t want to follow the link…

Imgur

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2017 • 4:16:47am

re: #83 teleskiguy

Donald J. Trump :
The NFL has decided that it will not force players to stand for the playing of our National Anthem. Total disrespect for our great country!

Because nothing exemplifies Patriotism and Love of Country more than a group of people forced to participate in a ritual patriotic display they do not believe in for fear of negative consequences.

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freetoken  Oct 18, 2017 • 4:16:52am

Why is this guy not locked up?

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2017 • 4:19:31am

re: #86 freetoken

I’m fucking dumbstruck daily. It’s disheartening.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2017 • 4:21:35am

re: #87 teleskiguy

I’m fucking dumbstruck daily. It’s disheartening.

yes, this is a season when an expat can homesick for the fall colors in the hills and the desert finally cooling off enough to be nice outdoors…I just have to turn on the news and I immediately feel better

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 18, 2017 • 4:23:52am

Trump himself knew what he was not getting into.

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2017 • 4:25:23am

re: #89 Barefoot Grin

Trump himself knew what he was not getting into.

BIGLY!!!

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2017 • 4:27:12am
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fern01  Oct 18, 2017 • 4:28:33am

smh

The idjits on MJ - saying the death of Sgt. La David Johnson should not be “politicized”

Good Heavens - have they forgotten about Benghazi already? ALWAYS the GOP can do it to President Obama - but never attack a GOP president in this way.

I cannot believe the b.s. the political media says in the era of trump - day after day after day. trump made a disgusting cold hearted b.s phone call - he didn’t even remember the name of the Sgt who died.

And now - the president is tweeting his hate - so who does the politicizing?

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fern01  Oct 18, 2017 • 4:29:30am

re: #91 teleskiguy

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Calling him a pig is demeaning to pigs.

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Targetpractice  Oct 18, 2017 • 4:30:52am

He’s attacking Comey first thing in the morning, which likely means there is a new bombshell coming sometime today.

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Ghost of the Mare Island Mud Puppy  Oct 18, 2017 • 4:32:46am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2017 • 4:32:46am

re: #94 Targetpractice

He’s attacking Comey first thing in the morning, which likely means there is a new bombshell coming sometime today.

Yes, firing him was not enough…

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2017 • 4:36:59am
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 18, 2017 • 4:42:23am

And maybe release the tapes of Comey conversations for good measure.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 18, 2017 • 4:47:10am

Heartsick…. again.

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Ghost of the Mare Island Mud Puppy  Oct 18, 2017 • 4:48:58am
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Dave In Austin  Oct 18, 2017 • 4:55:09am

Thread, and a good one.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2017 • 4:59:52am

If you get discouraged or overwhelmed by all the negativity around you, follow Lee Weissman.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 18, 2017 • 5:00:30am

Remember when Hillary said that the BENGHAZI!!! four “knew what they signed up for” and the GOP nodded, shook their head and moved on to the next thing?

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fern01  Oct 18, 2017 • 5:04:41am

re: #103 b.d. (bill d.)

Remember when Hillary said that the BENGHAZI!!! four “knew what they signed up for” and the GOP nodded, shook their head and moved on to the next thing?

Remember when all the political pundits said “we must not politicize the Benghazi deaths” and the GOP nodded, shook their head and moved on to the next thing?

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2017 • 5:05:32am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2017 • 5:05:42am

re: #103 b.d. (bill d.)

Remember when Hillary said that the BENGHAZI!!! four “knew what they signed up for” and the GOP nodded, shook their head and moved on to the next thing?

and how the press chided the Senate for harrying Hillary over an honest but well-intended mistake?

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 18, 2017 • 5:24:23am
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 18, 2017 • 5:32:51am

Quelle surprise!! GOP wants to wrap up Russian investigations this year. cnn.com. Nothing says innocence as much as short-circuiting investigations into malfeasance. How many Republican legislators are compromised, besides Rohrabacher (of course)?

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2017 • 5:36:23am
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dangerman  Oct 18, 2017 • 5:38:42am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because nothing exemplifies Patriotism and Love of Country more than a group of people forced to participate in a ritual patriotic display they do not believe in for fear of negative consequences….

….at the start of a sportsball game

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 18, 2017 • 5:39:12am

re: #107 Barefoot Grin

Mr. Trump is just setting the narrative for the day.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 18, 2017 • 5:40:50am
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2017 • 5:41:47am
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ObserverArt  Oct 18, 2017 • 5:49:31am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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Now Trump will probably attack Rep. Wilson too.

Morning.

Just getting to this thread and already I note Charles got the prediction correct in the first comment.

Trump is very well known now. So much so it is clear that he is totally unfit for the office.

Ball is in the Republic Congress court. No excuses. Almost a year since the election and he isn’t going to grow into the office. He has grown uglier.

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dangerman  Oct 18, 2017 • 5:49:55am

re: #79 teleskiguy
re: #100 Bubblehead II

re: #107 Barefoot Grin

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #77 teleskiguy

re: #93 fern01

re: #95 Bubblehead II

this guy’s like 6 years old

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 18, 2017 • 5:53:12am

re: #110 dangerman

….at the start of a sportsball game

Or in a church…

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fern01  Oct 18, 2017 • 5:55:33am

re: #115 dangerman

this guy’s like 6 years old

My granddaughter is 5 - she understands right and wrong, empathy, honor, love and hugs. Her language skills exceed those of the moron, as does her geography and understanding of democracy and rules.

Day care is for 0-4 year olds - and I would back anyone above 2 against trump.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 18, 2017 • 5:56:17am

re: #116 Joe Bacon 🌹

Or in a church…

or in a commercial aircraft….

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dangerman  Oct 18, 2017 • 5:58:17am

re: #117 fern01

My granddaughter is 5 - she understands right and wrong, empathy, honor, love and hugs. Her language skills exceed those of the moron, as does her geography and understanding of democracy and rules.

Day care is for 0-4 year olds - and I would back anyone above 2 against trump.

fern01’s granddaughter for president!

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Decatur Deb  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:03:07am

re: #119 dangerman

fern01’s granddaughter for president!

As long as she doesn’t have a Twitter account.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:03:08am

re: #119 dangerman

I hope she institutes mandatory paid nap time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:04:22am

re: #121 Shropshire Slasher

I hope she institutes mandatory nap time.

just knocked back an espresso and then put my feet up for 20 mins…closed my eyes and dozed and it works wonders, ready to go again

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:06:08am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:08:58am

re: #7 teleskiguy

We have a few questions about Ivanka Trump’s “punk phase”

In her mom Ivana’s new memoir Raising Trump, Ivanka Trump describes what she refers to as her “punk phase.” It didn’t involve protesting, or blasting Dead Kennedys records in her room, or chartering a private jet to London to walk in the footsteps of the Sex Pistols and The Clash. No, it involved dyeing her hair blue once and being sad when Kurt Cobain died, as detailed in NME. And we have a few questions:
1) Is there a hair salon in Trump Tower called Nice’n Easy?

Because if you’ve ever spent an afternoon or 10 bleaching your hair, then dyeing it with Manic Panic, ruining every towel within a half-mile radius in the process, you know this is utter bullshit:

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fern01  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:09:17am

re: #119 dangerman

fern01’s granddaughter for president!

hehehehe - she wasn’t born in the USA - and I have the birth certificate to prove it - but apart from that minor issue - she would be so much better than the moron.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:19:21am

Max Boot is beside himself.
latimes.com

Trump has withdrawn from the Trans-Pacific Partnership, handing China a gift in its attempts to dominate its neighbors; the Paris climate accords, setting back efforts to combat global warming; and now UNESCO, citing anti-Israel bias just as that organization was selecting its first Jewish head, France’s former culture minister Audrey Azoulay. Trump didn’t quite withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal, but he did refuse to certify that it is in America’s interest and threatened to withdraw in the near future if it cannot be toughened in ways that Iran is unlikely to accede to. Now Trump is making impossible demands of Mexico and Canada during negotiations over the future of the North America Free Trade Agreement, leading many observers to suspect he is deliberately sabotaging a treaty that has fostered closer economic and political ties among the three nations of North America.

In all these instances, Trump has acted in the face of nearly unanimous opposition from America’s allies, isolating the United States in a way that it has never been isolated in the post-1945 era.

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dangerman  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:26:49am

re: #125 fern01

hehehehe - she wasn’t born in the USA - and I have the birth certificate to prove it - but apart from that minor issue - she would be so much better than the moron.

She’s five. And smart. I can’t be worried about little stuff like where she was born

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Decatur Deb  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:30:37am

re: #125 fern01

hehehehe - she wasn’t born in the USA - and I have the birth certificate to prove it - but apart from that minor issue - she would be so much better than the moron.


If she was born in Canada to a Cuban father, we can do a work-around.

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austin_blue  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:34:34am

So, Soros has given $18 billion to his charitable organization:

theguardian.com

Can we PLEASE get our checks now?!?!?

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(Bert the Turtle)  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:35:44am
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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:37:45am

Here’s why some Americans might soon need a passport to fly within the U.S.

Frequent fliers who take international trips know to bring along their passport, but what about just for traveling around the country?

Beginning early next year, the REAL ID Act will tighten requirements to fly, and some states’ driver’s licenses might not make the cut.

Here’s what you should know about the act.

A map of the states, issued by the TSA, reveals which states are compliant with the new ID rules is included in the link.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:37:57am

re: #130 austin_blue

So, Soros has given $18 billion to his charitable organization:

theguardian.com

Can we PLEASE get our checks now?!?!?

Wells Fargo has been cashing mine at ten cents on the dollar.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:39:11am

JFC everyday with this guy. Yes it’s a risk that you’re fully aware of when you sign up but I can’t help but to think of the warmth Abraham Lincoln showed in the Bixby Letter or when Harry Truman met my distant relatives the Stranks in 1948 a few years after cousin Mike was KIA and immortalized in the Iwo Jima flag photo. Trump fails not just in the professional and ethical qualifications to be POTUS but the basic aspects of being a good person.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:40:18am

re: #132 Shropshire Slasher

From the article, and probably most important if you live on a non-compliant state:

If you are planning to fly using a passport and don’t yet have one, start planning soon. Routine processing can take up to 6 weeks.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:45:17am

re: #132 Shropshire Slasher

Here’s why some Americans might soon need a passport to fly within the U.S.

A map of the states, issued by the TSA, reveals which states are compliant with the new ID rules is included in the link.

Which is why we need a national ID card: one for citizens and one for legal resident aliens. That would end all discussion about residence status or voting.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:45:39am

What is the ratio of an igloo’s height to its circumference?

Eskimo Pi

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makeitstop  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:45:41am

I ran out to the post office and was listening to Mike & Mike on ESPN. They recounted a player’s rundown of the meeting with the owners yesterday, and the player in question said the owners were much more positive towards taking a knee than has been reported.

And Trump is taking a beating from the sports guys.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:46:24am

re: #134 HappyWarrior

JFC everyday with this guy. Yes it’s a risk that you’re fully aware of when you sign up but I can’t help but to think of the warmth Abraham Lincoln showed in the Bixby Letter or when Harry Truman met my distant relatives the Stranks in 1948 a few years after cousin Mike was KIA and immortalized in the Iwo Jima flag photo. Trump fails not just in the professional and ethical qualifications to be POTUS but the basic aspects of being a good person.

again, his supporters elected him because they are mean-spirited, evil people and delight in seeing one of their own rankling liberals

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Decatur Deb  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:48:04am

re: #137 Eventual Carrion

What is the ratio of an igloo’s height to its circumference?

Eskimo Pi

How many courses of snow blocks in a real native igloo?

EQ2rZtAUlF6pd16vYEBaoDibDl8k2WOSJ0bAtjBm3gTt2OCeK/coU0dH2z3c0PWC+uqnlp/Vp/yosr0p/ScRuzw55aP5cwtpuTPbhglXB7Q=

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:48:27am

re: #139 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again, his supporters elected him because they are mean-spirited, evil people and delight in seeing one of their own rankling liberals

You don’t have to tell me that. I’m just saying. It’s everyday with this asshole. I’d like to wake up for once and read about Trump actually acting like a decent President or at least human being.

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dangerman  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:53:25am

re: #141 HappyWarrior

You don’t have to tell me that. I’m just saying. It’s everyday with this asshole. I’d like to wake up for once and read about Trump actually acting like a decent President or at least human being.

I’d like a pony

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:55:44am

re: #142 dangerman

I’d like a pony

Ha! True. I mean damn it was bad enough that he threw his predecessors under the bus like that with his bs claim but this to a war widow. Damn him. And fuck his enablers and supporters and those who say we can’t insult him because he’s President. He’s not my President and he never will be.

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William Lewis  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:58:13am

re: #84 weave

Reddit, Twitter, Facebook. All hives of scum and villainy with owners that should be deported.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:59:27am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:00:29am

re: #145 The Vicious Babushka

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I wonder how much the Kremlin pays Greenwald to suck up to them.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:01:24am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

I wonder how much the Kremlin pays Greenwald to suck up to them.

He pays them.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:02:14am

re: #147 The Vicious Babushka

He pays them.

Ha!

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MsJ  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:02:41am

re: #142 dangerman

I’d like a pony

Might as well ask for a unicorn. Trump will always wake up being an asshole because he is an asshole.

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jeffreyw  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:02:46am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Decatur Deb  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:03:14am

re: #143 HappyWarrior

Ha! True. I mean damn it was bad enough that he threw his predecessors under the bus like that with his bs claim but this to a war widow. Damn him. And fuck his enablers and supporters and those who say we can’t insult him because he’s President. He’s not my President and he never will be.

He is my president. This little lesion on my forehead is my melanoma. I’m doing what it takes to have them both removed.

They’ll both be back if we relax our vigilance.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:03:58am

And again…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:04:21am

re: #151 Decatur Deb

He is my president. This little lesion on my forehead is my melanoma. I’m doing what it takes to have them both removed.

They’ll both be back if we relax our vigilance.

Good points. I’m just so disgusted. I mean damn he really is awful.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:05:07am

re: #149 MsJ

Might as well ask for a unicorn. Trump will always wake up being an asshole because he is an asshole.

That’s true. Gah I don’t know if I can do three more or God forbid seven years of this.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:06:20am

re: #153 HappyWarrior

Good points. I’m just so disgusted. I mean damn he really is awful.

Both are the natural consequence of carelessness.

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dangerman  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:08:18am

re: #149 MsJ

Might as well ask for a unicorn. Trump will always wake up being an asshole because he is an asshole.

You are right. Maybe I was hoping beyond hope. (For the pony anyway)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:08:50am

re: #155 Decatur Deb

Both are the natural consequence of carelessness.

Don’t blame me, I voted for the qualified one and the one that won my state.

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CongoJack  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:09:34am

re: #154 HappyWarrior

That’s true. Gah I don’t know if I can do three more or God forbid seven years of this.

If he gets re-elected there is a good chance I will be moving out of the USA. I just cannot keep my sanity for that long of a period of time. Also by then the USA will be a smoldering pile compared to the pre-tRump era.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:09:42am

I didn’t make it by last night, but Slueth posted what happened around here.

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

CONFEDERATE STATUES DOWN.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:11:01am

re: #158 CongoJack

If he gets re-elected there is a good chance I will be moving out of the USA. I just cannot keep my sanity for that long of a period of time. Also by then the USA will be a smoldering pile compared to the pre-tRump era.

and even after he is gone, the damage will take decades to recover from

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:11:42am

re: #158 CongoJack

If he gets re-elected there is a good chance I will be moving out of the USA. I just cannot keep my sanity for that long of a period of time. Also by then the USA will be a smoldering pile compared to the pre-tRump era.

I can’t say I blame you.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:12:20am

re: #157 HappyWarrior

Don’t blame me, I voted for the qualified one and the one that won my state.

We are past the point where that is enough. If we are going to save the patient we will need “heroic measures”.

en.wikipedia.org

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:12:31am

re: #160 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and even after he is gone, the damage will take decades to recover from

Indeed, we’re going to need not only someone who can beat him but can lead. Sigh one step forward and two steps back. And it could easily happen again because it’s clear to me the GOP only cares about one thing: power.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:13:05am

re: #162 Decatur Deb

We are past the point where that is enough. If we are going to save the patient we will need “heroic measures”.

en.wikipedia.org

I know. Sorry just frustrated this morning.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:13:50am

God, this fucking hurts.

Some of you may have no clue who this band is but the Hip are freaking National treasures in Canada. These guys were my soundtrack all through high school and college. No band as meant as much to me as they have.

I had the wonderful privilege of getting to see them on their final tour in my hometown last summer when I went home for my brothers wedding.

Now I’ll never be able to see them again. I can’t even put into words how much that stings. At least I’ll always have the music and the memories.

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CongoJack  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:14:19am

re: #160 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and even after he is gone, the damage will take decades to recover from

I’m actually optimistic on that. If the evidence of Russian collusion is strong and tRump keeps digging himself a hole eventually I hope the people will get pissed and demand the entire tRump Admin be wiped from history and all of his appointments are removed/impeached as their positions were given by a traitor.

I hope and dream.

And the only thing that kept me sane (referencing re: #157 HappyWarrior my state went blue and voted for the right person - that is really the only thing that kept me in a good state of mind after the election.

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William Lewis  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:15:17am

re: #102 The Vicious Babushka

If you get discouraged or overwhelmed by all the negativity around you, follow Lee Weissman.

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Thank you for posting this; I needed this today. Couple it with the words of the prophet Micah:

“He has told you, O mortal, what is good;
and what does the Lord require of you
but to do justice, and to love kindness,
and to walk humbly with your God?”

And a person would do more good than the whole republican party since Reagan’s inauguration.

Prophet =/= Profit.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:15:46am

re: #166 CongoJack

I’m actually optimistic on that. If the evidence of Russian collusion is strong and tRump keeps digging himself a hole eventually I hope the people will get pissed and demand the entire tRump Admin be wiped from history and all of his appointments are removed/impeached as their positions were given by a traitor.

I hope and dream.

And the only thing that kept me sane (referencing my state went blue and voted for the right person - that is really the only thing that kept me in a good state of mind after the election.

What I’m hoping for is gains in 2018 and then a clean sweep in 2020.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:15:50am

re: #108 Hecuba’s daughter

Quelle surprise!! GOP wants to wrap up Russian investigations this year. cnn.com. Nothing says innocence as much as short-circuiting investigations into malfeasance. How many Republican legislators are compromised, besides Rohrabacher (of course)?

All of them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:15:56am

re: #163 HappyWarrior

Indeed, we’re going to need not only someone who can beat him but can lead. Sigh one step forward and two steps back. And it could easily happen again because it’s clear to me the GOP only cares about one thing: power.

they still have the power the Electoral College, which favors the sparsely-populated Red States, and for the other states, they have he power of gerrymandering

I am repeatedly reminded of the George Carlin quote: think about how stupid the average person is and then remember that half the population is stupider than that.

…and our political & electoral system has given that half a de facto majority in the House, Senate and EC

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Dizzy  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:17:26am

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

God, this fucking hurts

Yes. What should also be mentioned is the philanthropic work that Downie did with the native communities, bringing the message to the Canadian mainstream.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:17:50am

re: #170 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

they still have the power the Electoral College, which favors the sparsely-populated Red States, and for the other states, they have he power of gerrymandering

I am repeatedly reminded of the George Carlin quote: think about how stupid the average person is and then remember that half the population is stupider than that.

…and our political & electoral system has given that half a de facto majority in the House, Senate and EC

I’m aware of this. However, the one disadvantage they will have is they won’t have a lighting rod of hatred to unite against in HRC. Hopefully the 2020 candidate will have learned a lot from both Obama and Clinton’s successes and failures.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:18:02am

re: #166 CongoJack

I’m actually optimistic on that. If the evidence of Russian collusion is strong and tRump keeps digging himself a hole eventually I hope the people will get pissed and demand the entire tRump Admin be wiped from history and all of his appointments are removed/impeached as their positions were given by a traitor.

I hope and dream.

And the only thing that kept me sane (referencing my state went blue and voted for the right person - that is really the only thing that kept me in a good state of mind after the election.

Probably no mechanism, and certainly no precedent, for removing his court appointments. If he gets 2 more USSC justices, in addition to the lower courts, we will be infected for half a generation.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:18:58am

re: #168 HappyWarrior

What I’m hoping for is gains in 2018 and then a clean sweep in 2020.

That could start in 2017 if Doug Jones somehow does beat Roy Moore in the Senate race.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:18:58am

re: #172 HappyWarrior

I’m aware of this. However, the one disadvantage they will have is they won’t have a lighting rod of hatred to unite against in HRC. Hopefully the 2020 candidate will have learned a lot from both Obama and Clinton’s successes and failures.

The DNC needs to figure out ways to galvanize its own base, as the GOP base will not be won over by anyone who is not a bigoted asshole.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:20:05am

re: #174 Decatur Deb

That could start in 2017 if Doug Jones somehow does beat Roy Moore in the Senate race.

Need also to keep the governor’s mansion here and flip it in Joisey.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:21:04am

re: #175 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The DNC needs to figure out ways to galvanize its own base, as the GOP base will not be won over by anyone who is not a bigoted asshole.

Correct.

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MsJ  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:22:02am

Overwhelming. Truly.

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CongoJack  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:22:38am

re: #173 Decatur Deb

Probably no mechanism, and certainly no precedent, for removing his court appointments. If he gets 2 more USSC justices, in addition to the lower courts, we will be infected for half a generation.

The mechanism I hope for is the people of this nation waking up and demanding action. Its the only mechanism we have (but if tRump was found guilty of collusion I’m sure we will need to take a closer look at those he appointed, and why they were appointed).

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:22:52am

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

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God, this fucking hurts.

Some of you may have no clue who this band is but the Hip are freaking National treasures in Canada. These guys were my soundtrack all through high school and college. No band as meant as much to me as they have.

I had the wonderful privilege of getting to see them on their final tour in my hometown last summer when I went home for my brothers wedding.

Now I’ll never be able to see them again. I can’t even put into words how much that stings. At least I’ll always have the music and the memories.

That sucks. Had they revealed his illness so you knew it was coming, or did they hide it from the public?

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Ghost of the Mare Island Mud Puppy  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:23:01am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:23:24am

re: #178 MsJ

Overwhelming. Truly.

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LGBT rights groups and Democratic senators have raised concerns over comments from Mateer, first published by CNN’s KFile, in which he described transgender children as evidence of “Satan’s plan,” lamented that states were banning conversion therapy, and argued that sanctioning same-sex marriage would lead to polygamy and bestiality.
This alone should disqualify him. What a frigging nut job.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:23:28am
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MsJ  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:23:54am

re: #180 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That sucks. Had they revealed his illness so you knew it was coming, or did they hide it from the public?

It was well known. They did a final tour.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:23:56am

I would bet money on the DNC picking up seats in 2018, but the question to ask is why. Is it from getting their message out, or the RNC’s own malfeasance and inter party squabbling?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:24:56am

re: #179 CongoJack

The mechanism I hope for is the people of this nation waking up and demanding action. Its the only mechanism we have (but if tRump was found guilty of collusion I’m sure we will need to take a closer look at those he appointed, and why they were appointed).

“Demand” is good, but without action it doesn’t do shit. I hope more than 2/3 actually drag their asses to the polls in an off-year election.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:25:16am

re: #178 MsJ

Overwhelming. Truly.

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The (RWNJ) Christian persecution complex is always absurd.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:27:38am
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Belafon  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:28:03am

re: #132 Shropshire Slasher

Here’s why some Americans might soon need a passport to fly within the U.S.

A map of the states, issued by the TSA, reveals which states are compliant with the new ID rules is included in the link.

My son, who just moved to Kentucky for college, is having to get one. He’ll fly here to Texas in December, but fly back in January, when we think he will need one.

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Citizen K  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:28:08am

re: #178 MsJ

re: #187 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

And he’ll likely sail through on confirmation because nothing matters, and the GOP is still full of feckless bigots.

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William Lewis  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:29:12am

re: #187 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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The (RWNJ) Christian persecution complex is always absurd.

My priest slammed this kind of thing hard in his sermon on Sunday. It’s especially disgusting since there are places in this world where it is dangerous to be openly Christian but I doubt any of those whiners would have the courage of their convictions if we forced them to go there.

But instead they whine that not getting the political decision they want is persecution. < spit >

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:30:38am

I’ve been rewatching John Adams. Just watched the episode on Adams’ presidency lats night. And man, that was a President who really did value what was best for the country over what was best for himself.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:30:52am

re: #171 Dizzy

Yes. What should also be mentioned is the philanthropic work that Downie did with the native communities, bringing the message to the Canadian mainstream.

Yes and that’s a very personal issue for me. My grandfather worked closely with northern inuit populations after the war, he even received a special commendation from the Canadian government for his efforts.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:32:53am

re: #180 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That sucks. Had they revealed his illness so you knew it was coming, or did they hide it from the public?

It was revealed as glioblastoma last year, even before the final tour, thus that string of shows turned into a very emotional extended farewell party.

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KGxvi  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:34:19am

Jeff Sessions: I believe there has been an erosion of the rule of law, too often law has been replaced with politics.

The lack of self awareness of these people must have reached negative numbers

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:34:25am

re: #190 Citizen K

And he’ll likely sail through on confirmation because nothing matters, and the GOP is still full of feckless bigots.

Another nominee just removed himself from consideration after things that came out. They can be stopped.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:34:26am

re: #193 Eclectic Cyborg

Yes and that’s a very personal issue for me. My grandfather worked closely with northern inuit populations after the war, he even received a special commendation from the Canadian government for his efforts.

He sounds like a hell of a guy. I’ll look up his tunes later. Who would you say his music compares to?

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:36:55am

re: #195 KGxvi

Jeff Sessions: I believe there has been an erosion of the rule of law, too often law has been replaced with politics.

The lack of self awareness of these people must have reached negative numbers

“Look, drug laws were explicitly created so that government could target blacks. Any attempt to undo these laws is playing politics.”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:37:47am

re: #194 Eclectic Cyborg

It was revealed as glioblastoma last year, even before the final tour, thus that string of shows turned into a very emotional extended farewell party.

It’s nice they could do that for the fans.

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KGxvi  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:37:51am

Now he’s playing the game of “I can’t waive or exercise executive privilege until the president acts one way or the other.” That is so incredibly fucking annoying because that’s not how privileged work. You either invoke it or you don’t. I really hope someone calls him out on that

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Decatur Deb  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:38:16am

re: #195 KGxvi

Jeff Sessions: I believe there has been an erosion of the rule of law, too often law has been replaced with politics.

The lack of self awareness of these people must have reached negative numbers

Sessions measures the rule of law in executions.

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Dizzy  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:39:58am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:43:35am

re: #197 HappyWarrior

He sounds like a hell of a guy. I’ll look up his tunes later. Who would you say his music compares to?

The Hip were always tough to classify but broadly speaking: vein as Tom Petty and Jon Bon Jovi, with some folk influences thrown in.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:44:55am

re: #199 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It’s nice they could do that for the fans.

Very. That last show in Ottawa was one of the most emotional nights of my life but mostly in a good way. Unforgettable.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:45:34am

re: #181 Bubblehead II

More like TestiLIES.

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Dizzy  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:45:43am

re: #203 Eclectic Cyborg

The Hip were always tough to classify but broadly speaking: vein as Tom Petty and Jon Bon Jovi, with some folk influences thrown in.

All thrown in with typical Canadian humility.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:46:15am

re: #206 Dizzy

All thrown in with typical Canadian humility.

Bingo.

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CongoJack  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:46:32am

re: #181 Bubblehead II

Did Evil Elf get scared by Kamala Harris again?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:47:43am

re: #196 Belafon

Another nominee just removed himself from consideration after things that came out. They can be stopped.

He removed himself. If he didn’t, I bet he would have been confirmed.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:49:43am

re: #155 Decatur Deb

Both are the natural consequence of carelessness.

The election of Trump had nothing to do with carelessness but a lot to do with malfeasance of the press and media, the machinations of Putin, and the raw misogyny, racism, and viciousness of many of our fellow Americans — such as those who proudly wear the “F.. your feelings” shirt.

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LastYearsMan  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:49:53am

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

I had almost convinced myself he was going to miraculously pull through. Stupid, I know, but it was also stupid that we’d have to lose Downie like that. What a kick to the nuts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:50:31am

re: #210 Hecuba’s daughter

The election of Trump had nothing to do with carelessness but a lot to do with malfeasance of the press and media, the machinations of Putin, and the raw misogyny, racism, and viciousness of many of our fellow Americans — such as those who proudly wear the “F.. your feelings” shirt.

…and get upset when people “disrepect” the symbols they hold dear

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Ghost of the Mare Island Mud Puppy  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:51:00am

re: #208 CongoJack

Did Evil Elf get scared by Kamala Harris again?

Hasn’t been questioned by her yet. Nancy is grilling him now about emoluments.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:52:53am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

…and get upset when people “disrepect” the symbols they hold dear

True that. Only their symbols are worthy of respect, even (especially) when they are the symbols of a defeated group of traitors.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:52:59am

re: #203 Eclectic Cyborg

The Hip were always tough to classify but broadly speaking: vein as Tom Petty and Jon Bon Jovi, with some folk influences thrown in.

Oh okay cool. I’ll definitely look em up.

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plansbandc  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:53:10am

re: #131 (Bert the Turtle)

Enjoying the misplaced modifier because it actually works quite well. Orange bag o’shit does indeed shit on twitter every single day.

Ooh. There was some punctuation there. My bad. :D

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Amory Blaine  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:54:58am
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LastYearsMan  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:57:05am

re: #215 HappyWarrior

Imho, “Day for Night” was their best album. Along with “Fully Completely”. But the song “New Orleans Is Sinking” (from their first, more blues-rock album) was probably their best-known song in the States

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KGxvi  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:57:20am

That DEA bill must be scaring the shit out of people because Hatch just spent a couple minutes defending and deflecting on his sponsorship of that bill.

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William Lewis  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:57:28am
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scottslemmons  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:01:31am

Any of y’all know anything about LibreOffice? I just updated to their newest version, and am getting a “Bad Allocation” error that crashes the program and any open documents. Their help site has no solutions, so I don’t know that they’ll be much help.

I don’t much want to have to download another new office suite, but if there isn’t an easy fix, there’s no reason for me to use their program…

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William Lewis  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:02:39am

re: #221 scottslemmons

Any of y’all know anything about LibreOffice? I just updated to their newest version, and am getting a “Bad Allocation” error that crashes the program and any open documents. Their help site has no solutions, so I don’t know that they’ll be much help.

I don’t much want to have to download another new office suite, but if there isn’t an easy fix, there’s no reason for me to use their program…

Hmm. What OS? How are you downloading it?

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scottslemmons  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:07:02am

re: #222 William Lewis

Hmm. What OS? How are you downloading it?

It’s Windows 10. Downloaded through the Internet? Got the file from their website…

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(Bert the Turtle)  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:07:29am

re: #216 plansbandc

Heh. Punctuation and I have come to the agreement our relationship just wasn’t symbiotic. We gave it a good go, but in the end, we both decided we were better off going our own ways.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:09:11am

re: #224 (Bert the Turtle)

Heh. Punctuation and I have come to the agreement our relationship just wasn’t symbiotic. We gave it a good go, but in the end, we both decided we were better off going our own ways.

Capitalization is useful in telling the difference between helping your uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse…

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William Lewis  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:12:46am

re: #223 scottslemmons

It’s Windows 10. Downloaded through the Internet? Got the file from their website…

I ask because there are various update services available in, say, Ubuntu.

In this case, I’d uninstall and go to the website and scroll down a bit further to where a couple of the older versions are available (it shows me 5.4.2 & 5.3.6 for 64 bit windows) and I’d try either one of those and wait a version or two before attempting an upgrade. I’m currently using version 5.1.6.2 on Ubuntu and have had no reason to upgrade.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:13:21am

Daily Beast has an article on Lena Headey escaping Harvey Weinstein.

The bummer for me:
(during shooting I was subjected to endless bullying by the director Terry Gilliam).”

Is there any man with power who isn’t abusive?

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William Lewis  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:13:57am
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Ace Rothstein  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:13:57am

re: #227 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

No.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:14:35am

re: #221 scottslemmons

Any of y’all know anything about LibreOffice? I just updated to their newest version, and am getting a “Bad Allocation” error that crashes the program and any open documents. Their help site has no solutions, so I don’t know that they’ll be much help.

I don’t much want to have to download another new office suite, but if there isn’t an easy fix, there’s no reason for me to use their program…

Why not roll back to the last working version? That way you don’t have to learn a new UI.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:15:28am

re: #229 Ace Rothstein

No.

Maybe Obama, but I can’t think of any other possibilities.

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makeitstop  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:16:17am

When we went on vacation to Halifax over the summer, we rented a car and drove out to Clam Harbour Beach, and the rental had a satellite station on that played one Hip song, then another, then another…

Turns out this station was running what they called ‘Tragically Hip Sunday.’ For the better part of the drive we listened. I’m not familiar with a lot of their stuff, but it was about an hour’s worth of really good stuff. I do know they’ve been around for quite a long time - I believe I’ve got a CD of theirs from the early 90s.

RIP, Mr. Downie.

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I cannot.  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:17:06am

re: #227 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

All rich and powerful men are pervs, except Zuckerberg, who has a USB port instead of genitals.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:17:27am

FUCK

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William Lewis  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:17:31am

re: #229 Ace Rothstein

No.

Yep. Most if not all men when presented with a situation where they are not likely to be caught or punished will do the worst things imaginable. From the Pirke Avot: “Rabbi Chanina, the Deputy High Priest, says: Pray for the welfare of the government, for were it not for the fear of it, man would swallow his fellow alive.”

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:18:15am

re: #227 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Daily Beast has an article on Lena Headey escaping Harvey Weinstein.

The bummer for me:
(during shooting I was subjected to endless bullying by the director Terry Gilliam).”

Is there any man with power who isn’t abusive?

Too many men think they can/could get away with it because that’s how it’s always done. And that’s how it’s been done. It’ll have to be fixed. And while it’s being fixed, it’ll be strange watching women defend men like Weinstein and Trump as a backlash.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:18:38am

Here’s one of the Hips more bluesy songs and a personal favourite:

The Tragically Hip - Long Time Running

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:18:46am

re: #231 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Maybe Obama, but I can’t think of any other possibilities.

In part, because men who don’t abuse don’t make news.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:19:25am

re: #234 The Vicious Babushka

FUCK

[Embedded content]

thoughts and prayers…..yada, yada, yada….

shame we can’t do anything about it…

so sick of the cowards we have running Congress…

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MsJ  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:20:11am

re: #227 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Daily Beast has an article on Lena Headey escaping Harvey Weinstein.

The bummer for me:
(during shooting I was subjected to endless bullying by the director Terry Gilliam).”

Is there any man with power who isn’t abusive?

Michael Bay is supposed to be a total asshole to work with. I don’t know if it was just against women (Megan Fox specifically), or if he was a jerkwad to everyone.

I am not defending asshole behavior in any fashion, but there are a lot of creative types who are real assholes. One of my psych courses in college was on creativity and mental illness and how many people who were genius are…different. And because of whatever flavor of creativity they possess, they are allowed to get away with it.

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plansbandc  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:21:43am

re: #225 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I saw the Grand Canyon flying to New York.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:22:37am

re: #240 MsJ

Michael Bay is supposed to be a total asshole to work with. I don’t know if it was just against women (Megan Fox specifically), or if he was a jerkwad to everyone.

I am not defending asshole behavior in any fashion, but there are a lot of creative types who are real assholes. One of my psych courses in college was on creativity and mental illness and how many people who were genius are…different. And because of whatever flavor of creativity they possess, they are allowed to get away with it.

Bay has no redeeming qualities, so him being an asshole doesn’t surprise me, though I’m surprised he can get away with it since he’s no genius. Gilliam just seems so likable. I should know better than to mistake being likable to being a good person.

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MsJ  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:24:44am

re: #242 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Bay has no redeeming qualities, so him being an asshole doesn’t surprise me, though I’m surprised he can get away with it since he’s no genius.

Genius is often determined by how much money they make. Especially in Hollywood.

Gilliam just seems so likable. I should know better than to mistake being likable to being a good person.

Unfortunately.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:25:23am
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scottslemmons  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:25:56am

re: #226 William Lewis

I ask because there are various update services available in, say, Ubuntu.

In this case, I’d uninstall and go to the website and scroll down a bit further to where a couple of the older versions are available (it shows me 5.4.2 & 5.3.6 for 64 bit windows) and I’d try either one of those and wait a version or two before attempting an upgrade. I’m currently using version 5.1.6.2 on Ubuntu and have had no reason to upgrade.

Probably the proper thing to do. Peeves me because my ‘net connection is so weak, it may take me several tries to get it downloaded. :/

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:31:54am
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ObserverArt  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:33:02am

re: #227 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Daily Beast has an article on Lena Headey escaping Harvey Weinstein.

The bummer for me:
(during shooting I was subjected to endless bullying by the director Terry Gilliam).”

Is there any man with power who isn’t abusive?

I’m a big fan of Gilliam’s movies. Before driving over him, I’d like to learn a bit more about what she meant by “endless bullying” by him.

Some directors are extremely tough on actors trying to get them to give more than they are, maybe not understanding the part as the director sees it, etc.

Some actors/actresses are prima donnas and don’t like taking direction.

Then comes the interpretations of what was going on while making the film. Lots of bent egos.

I found it odd, that as she is talking about Weinstein there is an aside remark about Gilliam. So it must have left an impression.

I think if you were to ask many actors about their relationship with the directors you would find a lot of warring between the two. Then the movie gets done and if it was a great movie both sides will eventually admit that the push and pull is what made it work.

If it wasn’t good, then the knives come out and they trash each other.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:36:42am

Some photos of Prague (and some other areas of the Czech Republic) in all their shabby, run-down Communist-era glory, circa 1976.

vintag.es

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:36:46am

re: #246 The Vicious Babushka

Soon, Trump will hold up four fingers and proclaim “I’m holding up five fingers.” Part of us will laugh, but there will be some who will declare that he held up five, no matter how much you try to say otherwise. Then a shopped image will come out with him holding one finger up on his other hand and they’ll declare they were right.

Edited slightly.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:38:05am

re: #246 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

Was the message from John Barron or John Miller?

en.wikipedia.org

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:39:33am

re: #247 ObserverArt

I’m a big fan of Gilliam’s movies. Before driving over him, I’d like to learn a bit more about what she meant by “endless bullying” by him.

So am I, which is why it was a bummer.
You’d have to talk to her, but you’d risk coming across as defending a bully, even though you’d just be looking for clarification.

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scottslemmons  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:39:46am

re: #246 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

We really need to convince Republicans that drinking a gallon of bleach will make them rich and smart. Just like Trump!

Obama’s greatest failure was not filming a commercial begging people not to throw themselves in woodchippers.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:40:19am

re: #247 ObserverArt

I’m a big fan of Gilliam’s movies. Before driving over him, I’d like to learn a bit more about what she meant by “endless bullying” by him.

Some directors are extremely tough on actors trying to get them to give more than they are, maybe not understanding the part as the director sees it, etc.

IIRC, Stanley Kubrick basically drove Shelley Duvall to the brink of a total nervous breakdown while filming The Shining. It’s one of the reasons her performance comes across the way it does.

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scottslemmons  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:41:00am

re: #226 William Lewis

I ask because there are various update services available in, say, Ubuntu.

In this case, I’d uninstall and go to the website and scroll down a bit further to where a couple of the older versions are available (it shows me 5.4.2 & 5.3.6 for 64 bit windows) and I’d try either one of those and wait a version or two before attempting an upgrade. I’m currently using version 5.1.6.2 on Ubuntu and have had no reason to upgrade.

Uggh. They don’t *have* any previous versions on their site. :(

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:41:34am

re: #253 Dr Lizardo

IIRC, Stanley Kubrick basically drove Shelley Duvall to the brink of a total nervous breakdown while filming The Shining. It’s one of the reasons her performance comes across the way it does.

It was a great perfornamce, but I don’t think creating art justifies breaking actresses.

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William Lewis  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:42:51am

re: #254 scottslemmons

try this link:

libreoffice.org

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nines09  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:43:52am
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:43:57am

re: #250 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Was the message from John Barron or John Miller?

en.wikipedia.org

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:44:43am

re: #255 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It was a great perfornamce, but I don’t think creating art justifies breaking actresses.

You’re quite right - Kubrick was infamous as a perfectionist of the highest order and he was known for being something of an asshole if he felt that would get the right performance he was looking for. William Friedkin was certainly quite the prick while filming The Exorcist.

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ObserverArt  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:45:28am

Found this bit about Lena Henley and Terry Gilliam and pulled it from this link.

Cheatsheet - Lena Headey Says Terry Gilliam Bullied Her on the Set of ‘The Brothers Grimm’

This was actually not the first time that Lena Headey has called out Terry Gilliam, although it’s the first time she’s done so in a while. In a 2007 interview, she told Contact Music that she had a horrible experience shooting The Brothers Grimm.

“The director didn’t want me in the role and let’s just say he wasn’t too subtle about showing his dislike for me,” she said. “Once the film came out and didn’t do so well, he blamed me for absolutely everything. It was pretty appalling, and it made me want to not work for a while.”

Headey also said in that 2007 interview that she was extremely relieved when she was cast in 300, which was released a year after The Brothers Grimm and helped put Headey on the map five years before she was cast in Game of Thrones.

I guess we’ll never know unless we get a better feel for what her definition of bullying is. Terry Gilliam might not be the easiest guy to work for, but there are a lot of successful people that are tough to work for. He could be a bully too. Him getting tossed into the article sort of paints him like Weinstein.

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scottslemmons  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:46:14am

re: #256 William Lewis

try this link:

libreoffice.org

That’s the page I was on. 5.3.6 was the version I downloaded that’s messing stuff up…

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Stanley Sea  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:50:35am

re: #246 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

my dog

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:51:04am

re: #255 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It was a great perfornamce, but I don’t think creating art justifies breaking actresses.

Male directors can try to justify the behavior however they like but the giveaway is that this tends to only happen to women. The presumption is that men can be conversed with on an intellectual level but women are somehow inherently less capable creatures that need to be manipulated instead of reasoned with. It’s disgusting and it needs to be called out no matter who is doing it.

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William Lewis  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:51:24am

re: #261 scottslemmons

That’s the page I was on. 5.3.6 was the version I downloaded that’s messing stuff up…

Ah! I’m showing three versions since then - I thought you were using one of them. Are you willing to try the newer version? Or do you want an older version?

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Stanley Sea  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:52:25am

re: #250 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Was the message from John Barron or John Miller?

en.wikipedia.org

It was a trumpette.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:53:17am

re: #240 MsJ

Michael Bay is supposed to be a total asshole to work with. I don’t know if it was just against women (Megan Fox specifically), or if he was a jerkwad to everyone.

Pretty sure everyone. Bruce Willis said he’d never work with Bay again after Armageddon.

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William Lewis  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:53:19am

re: #261 scottslemmons

That’s the page I was on. 5.3.6 was the version I downloaded that’s messing stuff up…

Here’s a web folder with lots of versions. Pick the one you want to try and download the windows installer for it.

Good luck - I have a meeting to go to but I’ll check in with you in a bit if I can.

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:53:29am

re: #261 scottslemmons

That’s the page I was on. 5.3.6 was the version I downloaded that’s messing stuff up…

Did you try 5.4.2?

A google search turns up this as a possible location: downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org. I haven’t gone there, though.

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MsJ  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:54:15am
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BlackPearl  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:55:14am

re: #248 Dr Lizardo

Oh, cool! I was just in Prague last weekend visiting a friend. We waved in your general direction…

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:59:23am

I hate that we’re dragging dead soldiers in as gotchas, but Trump started it:

After her Army son died in an armored vehicle rollover in Syria in May, Sheila Murphy says, she got no call or letter from President Donald Trump, even as she waited months for his condolences, wrote to him to say “some days I don’t want to live,” and still heard nothing. […]

The Associated Press found relatives of two soldiers who died overseas during Trump’s presidency who said they never received a call or a letter from him, as well as relatives of a third who did not get a call. And proof is plentiful that Barack Obama and George W. Bush — saddled with far more combat casualties than the roughly two dozen so far under Trump, took painstaking steps to write, call or meet bereaved military families.

Trump has made some calls, to be sure, and has even made them in ways that didn’t leave the families wounded and offended. But there’s no evidence that his policy on contacting grieving military families is dramatically different than those of Bush or Obama—except that Trump alone has tried to gain political mileage out of saying he does it better than anyone else, and Trump alone has a history of publicly feuding with a Gold Star family and being excited to be given a veteran’s Purple Heart because he’d always wanted one and it was “much easier” to be given one than to earn one. And of course, as we know, when it comes to war heroes, Trump “like[s] people who weren’t captured.”

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:59:54am

re: #266 Eclectic Cyborg

Pretty sure everyone. Bruce Willis said he’d never work with Bay again after Armageddon.

After Titanic, Kate Winslet said she’d never work with James Cameron again unless she was given a “big bag of cash” first. Cameron has a reputation as a perfectionist autocrat on the set, though in some fairness to Cameron, he admits that as a director, he’s pretty much a dictator.

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ObserverArt  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:01:34am

re: #263 goddamnedfrank

Male directors can try to justify the behavior however they like but the giveaway is that this tends to only happen to women. The presumption is that men can be conversed with on an intellectual level but women are somehow inherently less capable creatures that need to be manipulated instead of reasoned with. It’s disgusting and it needs to be called out no matter who is doing it.

Frank,

I think you could find cases of male directors and male actors having the same battles.

You might find some female directors that can be tough on either sex too.

Not excusing it, but artists can be emotional and demanding. Why did the Beatles break up? Other bands? Getting a variety of egos that all think they know best on the same page is historically tough.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:03:50am
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scottslemmons  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:04:07am

re: #264 William Lewis

Ah! I’m showing three versions since then - I thought you were using one of them. Are you willing to try the newer version? Or do you want an older version?

That’s strange — mine only shows 5.3.6 and 5.4.2, with 5.3.7 listed as a pre-release version.

The one time I tried their “early adopter/power user” version, it wouldn’t work at all, so I’d druther not try it again.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:04:33am

re: #273 ObserverArt

Frank,

I think you could find cases of male directors and male actors having the same battles.

You might find some female directors that can be tough on either sex too.

Not excusing it, but artists can be emotional and demanding. Why did the Beatles break up? Other bands? Getting a variety of egos that all think they know best on the same page is historically tough.

Pink Floyd; Roger Waters is definitely a control freak. He’s a brilliant musician, but…..yeah, I think he’d be hard to work with.

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scottslemmons  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:06:11am

re: #268 Belafon

Did you try 5.4.2?

A google search turns up this as a possible location: downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org. I haven’t gone there, though.

Thanks — I’m going to try hitting some of those up a bit later today to see if they fix my issues. :)

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:06:58am

re: #273 ObserverArt

I think you could find cases of male directors and male actors having the same battles.

My point is that the battles generally aren’t the same. Sure, they’ll fight, but you generally won’t see them attempt to deliberately undermine a male actor’s psyche for the sake of getting a specific performance. In large part it’s because of how traditional male and female roles are defined in society, men have to be strong and women are assumed to be weak.

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makeitstop  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:08:51am

In other news - Nunes is still a dick. He compelled Fusion GPS to appear before committee, and as promised they asserted privilege.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:09:13am

re: #271 Belafon

Trump alone has tried to gain political mileage out of saying he does it better than anyone else, and Trump alone has a history of publicly feuding with a Gold Star family and being excited to be given a veteran’s Purple Heart because he’d always wanted one and it was “much easier” to be given one than to earn one.

and Trump senses that this dispute will serve as a suitable distraction for his ongoing efforts to dismantle government and the institutions that serve the people of our country who cannot pay cash for anything and everything they want and need…

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:09:19am

re: #246 The Vicious Babushka

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Amory Blaine  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:10:28am
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:10:51am

re: #281 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:10:57am

re: #281 Ace-o-aces

I don’t know if they released the audio, but someone should compare it to his relatives.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:12:19am

re: #283 The Vicious Babushka

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Dave In Austin  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:13:16am
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:14:35am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:14:36am

re: #286 Dave In Austin

Time for a Congressional subpoena.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:14:50am

re: #286 Dave In Austin

LGFers—- Perked ears, HUH?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:14:50am

re: #285 Ace-o-aces

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:16:57am

Look at the body language. He’s trapped and he knows it.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:17:01am

re: #286 Dave In Austin

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That guy’s face is firmly in the uncanny valley.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:17:54am

re: #292 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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sagehen  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:18:59am

re: #255 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It was a great perfornamce, but I don’t think creating art justifies breaking actresses.

Google Tippi Hedron/Alfred Hitchcock. Definitely broke that girl.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:20:07am

Franken is burning Sessions

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CongoJack  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:20:33am

re: #293 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

I was sitting here thinking - was it Chuck C Johnson that pooped on the floor or was it Ted Nugent . Ah that is right Chuck Cuck Johnson poo’d on the floor like an animal. Nugent just poo’d in his pants like a baby (so he didn’t have to go to Vietnam if memory serves).

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Dr. Matt  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:20:50am

re: #286 Dave In Austin

Conservative blogger Chuck Johnson has been asked to turn over docs to Senate Intel over this but he won’t cooperate

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) October 17, 2017

Anyone know what legal recourse the Senate Intel has?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:20:57am

re: #294 sagehen

Google Tippi Hedron/Alfred Hitchcock. Definitely broke that girl.

Kubirck/Shelley Duvall in The Shining.

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ObserverArt  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:22:03am

Oh look Chunky C Johnson is out making a name for himself.

I hope the little ass gets an 8-digit federal number to go with the name.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:23:03am

re: #299 ObserverArt

Oh look Chunky C Johnson is out making a name for himself.

I hope the little ass gets an 8-digit federal number to go with the name.

Complimentary orange suit to match.

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makeitstop  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:24:21am

re: #291 The Vicious Babushka

Look at the body language. He’s trapped and he knows it.

[Embedded content]

That son of a bitch. Busted AF.

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ObserverArt  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:24:38am

re: #300 HappyWarrior

Complimentary orange suit to match.

Orange is the new Red.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:26:13am

re: #294 sagehen

Google Tippi Hedron/Alfred Hitchcock. Definitely broke that girl.

Don’t have to. I already read what she wrote when the Weinstein thing came out.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:28:25am
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ObserverArt  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:29:17am

re: #301 makeitstop

That son of a bitch. Busted AF.

He basically said the Black Congresswoman lied because that is what they do when he said “most people are not too surprised to hear that.”

He just loves making a complete ass out of himself by turning a small spark into a raging blaze.

That is what happens with lies covering for other lies.

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plansbandc  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:30:40am

re: #281 Ace-o-aces

I bet the audio is truly special.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:31:26am

If you’re going to lie, keep it simple and as close to the truth as possible. And, never tack another lie on top of the first unless it steers you in an easily recalled direction.

Better yet, don’t lie.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:32:13am

Especially if you’re CiC

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I cannot.  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:33:09am

re: #307 Colère Tueur de Lapin

And never say you have proof, if the only proof possible is a recording that would be illegal to make in the first place.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:33:14am

theguardian.com
His mother is backing the Rep up. Trump once again showed what a pathetic asshole he is.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:34:12am

re: #307 Colère Tueur de Lapin

If you’re going to lie, keep it simple and as close to the truth as possible. And, never tack another lie on top of the first unless it steers you in an easily recalled direction.

Better yet, don’t lie.

Trump’s a bullshitter, so he can’t help piling lie on top of lie until there’s a mountain of bullshit.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:35:57am

re: #311 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Trump’s a bullshitter, so he can’t help piling lie on top of lie until there’s a mountain of bullshit.

Trump’s essentially a compulsive liar - as a result, he can’t keep his stories straight.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:36:44am
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Ghost of the Mare Island Mud Puppy  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:41:08am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:41:23am

We all recall this meme and took it as a tad melodramatic, right?

Well…

Tucson, Arizona, trailer fire ‘caused by spider burning

A blowtorch used to burn spider webs could be the cause of a fire at a mobile home in Tucson, Arizona, officials say.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:42:10am

re: #314 Bubblehead II

[Embedded content]

I’m not seeing this as a bad thing.

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CongoJack  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:42:35am

re: #315 Colère Tueur de Lapin

We all recall this meme and took it as a tad melodramatic, right?

[Embedded content]

Well…

Tucson, Arizona, trailer fire ‘caused by spider burning

Is “spider webs” code for meth?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:42:58am

re: #313 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

Yep it can’t be ignored and this strategy is patronizing at best to the family who Trump has pretty much called liars.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:43:20am

re: #317 CongoJack

Is “spider webs” code for meth?

Didn’t actually think that, but….

That’s a ROFL

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MsJ  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:43:35am

Everything wrong with America in one tweet. Including they spewed this shit in the #IfItWerentForDogs hashtag.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:43:35am

re: #314 Bubblehead II

[Embedded content]

Graham says it as if it’s a terrible thing.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:44:18am

re: #314 Bubblehead II

[Embedded content]

It’s always an internal enemy that brings down powerful nations, rather than an outside threat.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:44:22am

re: #294 sagehen

Google Tippi Hedron/Alfred Hitchcock. Definitely broke that girl.

One interpretation of the new movie “mother!” is that it is a self-portrait of Darren Aronofsky. It shows the male lead as a self-absorbed artist who cares only about being worshiped by his fans and who destroys the women who inspire him to create his art.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:44:43am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:46:26am

re: #324 goddamnedfrank

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:47:23am

re: #312 Dr Lizardo

Trump’s essentially a compulsive liar - as a result, he can’t keep his stories straight.

How can he keep his stories straight? He doesn’t remember what really happened. Actually, this is not uncommon — people often have false memories of events, especially those who may not have good memories in the first place.

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Ghost of the Mare Island Mud Puppy  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:49:22am

re: #316 HappyWarrior

I’m not seeing this as a bad thing.

Me either. I would love to see republican tax reform go down in flames followed by the republican party.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:49:59am

re: #326 Hecuba’s daughter

How can he keep his stories straight? He doesn’t remember what really happened. Actually, this is not uncommon — people often have false memories of events, especially those who may not have good memories in the first place.

Confabulation.
Trump often intends to deceive, but he is likely confabulating too. He seems profoundly unwell.

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makeitstop  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:51:46am

re: #321 Ace Rothstein

Graham says it as if it’s a terrible thing.

Yeah, I’m not seeing the downside, TBH.

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lawhawk  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:53:35am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

Trump was up early once again trouncing the Constitution, screwing over Gold Star Parents (again; this is a habit with him since he has no clue how sacrifice actually works), and basically lying about everything he does and has done.

I could care less what Ivanka’s musical tastes are (not that I believe it for a moment that she ever had a punk phase). That’s a deflection to keep people from focusing on the fact that she should have been charged for felony fraud on real estate transactions in NYC a few years back along with her brother. It was only a well placed donation by daddy’s lawyer that seems to have ironed out that whole mess.

Speaking of messes, the shitshow in Puerto Rico continues (literally and figurative). 82.3% of the island is still without power more than a month after landfall of Maria, and FEMA said 25% would have power restored. There’s no chance that’s happening, and 25% was insanely low to start. It’s unconscionable how the Admin is handling the disaster response.

Every aspect of it shows him and his admin failing millions of Americans in dire need.

You know who’s actually doing a good job? Former Yankee legend Jorge Posada. He’s actually organized flights to get people who are ill care in Miami and/or reuniting those folks with their relatives here on the mainland.

The US military has logistical capabilities that aren’t getting used. They have the assets to make care available. They can set up mobile hospitals and clinics, as well as ferry people to the USNS Comfort. That they aren’t doing so is a failure of leadership and scope. FEMA and the DoD need to be working in concert, and that seems to have completely collapsed.

Every other natural disaster before Trump seemed to have regular updates on how the DoD was working with FEMA and local authorities to get aid to those in need - whether it was after Katrina or Sandy or any of the other natural disasters requiring federal military assistance, or to disasters overseas (like Indonesia, Thailand, Haiti, or Japan after quakes (and/or tsnuami) hit those countries). Mission sorties, the types of personnel involved, people helped, food and water brought in, etc.

All that is missing. It’s a news vacuum and it’s happening to millions of Americans all because Trump would rather golf than do the job.

Of course, Trump’s supporters think he’s doing exactly what he needs to be doing - which is to fuck up functioning government because who needs disaster relief when you can give estate tax cuts to millionaires and stick everyone else with the bill.


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