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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:17:56pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:19:45pm

re: #1 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Jesus saves, the rest of you take full damage.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:20:23pm

re: #1 Joe Bacon 🌹

LOL, LGF denizens piling on to troll the troll …

From the previous thread:

re: #261 fern01

They ALL lie - every last republican in congress - and now with the non president - they lie more than they used to. They have no idea about truth any more - truth to the GOP is false news.

Fifty years of miseducation and agitprop is a helluva drug… .

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:21:14pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

Jesus saves, the rest of you take full damage.

I always heard it as, “Jesus saves. Everyone else rolls 1d20.”

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:22:07pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:22:56pm

re: #5 b.d. (bill d.)

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Blonde hair, makeup, and boobies.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:24:27pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:25:48pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

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Playing to the stereotype of a blonde woman not having any clue. Thing is, the stereotype works because FNC’s target audience have no fucking clue themselves. All they know is black men are kneeling, Trump is raging against them, so obviously the kneeling is the problem.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:26:04pm

Sometimes my friends are like a pack of wolves.

And I love you all for it…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:29:50pm

re: #8 Targetpractice

Playing to the stereotype of a blonde woman not having any clue. Thing is, the stereotype works because FNC’s target audience have no fucking clue themselves. All they know is black men are kneeling, Trump is raging against them, so obviously the kneeling is the problem.

“Tee hee! I’m so stupid, I’d even sleep with a fat ugly Republican like you!”

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jaunte  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:31:04pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:33:02pm

The “white working class” that constantly moans about how misunderstood they are and how nobody seems to care what happens in their community…have listened for months to black players and activists declare for months that they’re demonstrating against racial inequality and yet express puzzlement over what the demonstrations are all about.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:33:11pm

re: #11 jaunte

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Republicans are so fucking tone deaf.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:34:01pm

re: #12 Targetpractice

The “white working class” that constantly moans about how misunderstood they are and how nobody seems to care what happens in their community…have listened for months to black players and activists declare for months that they’re demonstrating against racial inequality and yet express puzzlement over what the demonstrations are all about.

Or they don’t - my dad thinks it’s just black people saying “eff you” to the President. Which, well, to be fair, they are, however indirectly.

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Targetpractice  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:34:45pm

re: #11 jaunte

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I’d say I was surprised, if I hadn’t seen numerous shootings in the past decade followed by Republicans raffling off guns as prizes during (re)election campaigns.

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Targetpractice  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:35:20pm

re: #14 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Or they don’t - my dad thinks it’s just black people saying “eff you” to the President. Which, well, to be fair, they are, however indirectly.

That wasn’t how it started out, but that’s what it’s become in the minds of wingnuts.

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whitebeach  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:36:21pm

re: #9 Dave In Austin

Sometimes my friends are like a pack of wolves.

And I love you all for it…

LGF is, as far as I know, the best place on the net. It’s like a perfect private club to which you can go and enjoy the most intelligent and experienced and informed and just plain sympathetic company. I wish we could grow it, though, for us and for Charles and godammit, for the country. I’m trying to recruit new lizards and I hope the rest of yez are doing the same. I don’t really know much about this kind of thing, alas, so maybe some of the marketing/biz types here can give some tips?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:36:40pm

re: #16 Targetpractice

That wasn’t how it started out, but that’s what it’s become in the minds of wingnuts.

It only became that in actuality because the President decided to open his gargantuan yap and bitch about it publicly. If he’d kept his goddamn mouth shut, it wouldn’t have had anything to do with him.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:37:03pm

Yeah, this is a really stupid idea from a really stupid newspaper writer.

If Mike Pompeo Leaves the CIA, Trump Should Replace Him with Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos (more at the Washington Examiner):

President Trump should ask Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos to be his next CIA director.

If, that is, Axios is correct in reporting that the president might replace Secretary of State Rex Tillerson with current CIA Director Mike Pompeo.

Axios also suggests that Pompeo might be replaced at the CIA by Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark. But while I recognize Cotton’s intellect and hard-to-match proven patriotism, I believe Bezos would be a better choice to lead the CIA.

For a start, Bezos’ record at Amazon is one of bold organizational risks and innovative reforms. As evidenced by his purchases of Whole Foods and the Washington Post, the CEO also defines himself by relentless creativity; looking forward to the next market gap and associated opportunity. The data validates Bezos’ leadership: Amazon’s stock price has more than quadrupled over the last five years, and the Washington Post’s website has seen record growth in readers, reading time, and advertising revenue.

Bezos’ leadership style is just what “the Agency” needs.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:38:21pm

Once you block all the bots with names like @CaliforniaGirl8793 that post every few seconds, you’re left with a lot of angry real Americans responding to wingnut Tweets to mock people like Tammy Lehrer.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:38:55pm

re: #1 Joe Bacon 🌹

The Canadian version is: Jesus saves - Gretzky scores on the rebound!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:40:47pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:40:51pm

re: #18 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It only became that in actuality because the President decided to open his gargantuan yap and bitch about it publicly. If he’d kept his goddamn mouth shut, it wouldn’t have had anything to do with him.

He opened his yap last year, calling for a boycott and proclaiming the protests were “disrespectful.” The only thing that changed between then and now is he’s now in political office, so he could present the whole thing as an insult to him personally.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:42:08pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:42:35pm

Three tweets:

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:44:51pm

I’m off to bed for now…

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plansbandc  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:48:13pm

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nines09  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:51:12pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:52:05pm

re: #14 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Or they don’t - my dad thinks it’s just black people saying “eff you” to the President. Which, well, to be fair, they are, however indirectly.

Except it started before Trump. Trump just made is to they had to respond.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:55:56pm
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jaunte  Oct 18, 2017 • 6:56:15pm
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:00:40pm
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jaunte  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:04:02pm

Cultists riled again.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:04:27pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:05:31pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

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HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE GOD-EMPEROR!!!!

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jaunte  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:06:01pm
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The Spite House  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:06:38pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:08:14pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

I FUCKING HATE DONALD TRUMP.

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Targetpractice  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:10:13pm

re: #31 jaunte

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DOJ has no interest because their boss is being told by his boss to put the kibosh on the whole mess. It’s the sort of situation that we use to judge banana republics, right here in our own government.

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jaunte  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:11:01pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:12:05pm

re: #40 jaunte

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He’s been good to them so far. He’s been trying to make things better for the rich whites. He’s been suppressing the blacks and the browns and the wimminz. What more could they ask for?

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Stanley Sea  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:13:24pm

Want to read something sweet?

(Found on John Dingell’s time line)

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jaunte  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:13:38pm

re: #41 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Scary to be surrounded by sub-rosa racists and lamebrains.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:15:13pm

re: #14 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Or they don’t - my dad thinks it’s just black people saying “eff you” to the President. Which, well, to be fair, they are, however indirectly.

Yeah. the hard thing to point out is this. “However indirectly” is exactly the wrong standard to measure by, as in like many things, we get to declare and define our own statements via protest. Like your dad gets to define what it means when he does something. His critics don’t. The bigots can define their own actions only.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:15:28pm

Too bad Ted Lieu can’t run for President (born Taipei, Taiwan, immigrated in childhood).

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William Lewis  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:16:05pm

re: #40 jaunte

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Racism mostly. Fear of losing their privilege for another chunk. Lastly being uneducated enough to fall for the fear & hate propaganda put out by Faux News.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:16:11pm

re: #43 jaunte

Scary to be surrounded by sub-rosa racists and lamebrains.

You know how deeply I feel that.

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Targetpractice  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:16:23pm

re: #40 jaunte

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It’s easy enough to answer when you look at the same polls from the previous administration. They look up “US President,” they see a white guy, so they’re convinced that everything is good. The only time they get pissed at a white guy in the office is when they personally are getting the shit end of the stick.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:16:30pm

re: #44 Unshaken Defiance

Yeah. the hard thing to point out is this. “However indirectly” is exactly the wrong standard to measure by, as in like many things, we get to declare and define our own statements via protest. Like your dad gets to define what it means when he does something. His critics don’t. The bigots can define their own actions only.

I don’t disagree with you.

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William Lewis  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:17:32pm

re: #42 Stanley Sea

Want to read something sweet?

(Found on John Dingell’s time line)

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Looks sweet.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:20:15pm

re: #49 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I was sure of that, a little frustration leaking. it’s just hard to roll back the perception and make this simple necessary logic stick. It seems to me to be exactly the ground to not ever give up conversationally. Critical thinking is critical in dealing with the critics, as it were.

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dangerman  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:21:14pm

re: #21 Eclectic Cyborg

The Canadian version is: Jesus saves - Gretzky scores on the rebound!

In my youth….(rod) Gilbert tips it in

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Targetpractice  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:21:18pm

You see polls about white approval of Trump versus minority approval, and you begin to understand why so many of the former go around declaring that Obama made racism “worse” when he was in office.

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fern01  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:21:43pm

re: #3 Anymouse 🌹

LOL, LGF denizens piling on to troll the troll …

From the previous thread:

Fifty years of miseducation and agitprop is a helluva drug… .

Thought I was talking to myself on a dead thread - nice to see someone was reading it :)

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:23:12pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

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Skip Intro  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:24:21pm

re: #45 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Too bad Ted Lieu can’t run for President (born Taipei, Taiwan, immigrated in childhood).

He could have run for Senate from California if Diane Feinstein hadn’t decided that the seat is hers for life.

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whitebeach  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:27:25pm

re: #39 Targetpractice

DOJ has no interest because their boss is being told by his boss to put the kibosh on the whole mess. It’s the sort of situation that we use to judge banana republics, right here in our own government.

As most lizards know, I’m an olds. Been around the block enough times to wear a rut in the cement sidewalk. Seen some shit.

I remember from childhood the McCarthy mess. It went on and on. In junior high our civics teacher, a great young man, allowed as how he hated Communism as much as anybody, but he didn’t see a Communist under every bed. Next term he was gone.

I remember all the segregation shit, up close, from the fifties through the seventies and into Reagan. I remember Impeach Earl Warren billboards on local highways as well as others claiming Ike was a Commie, so was JFK, so was MLK. I remember the assassinations of JFK, RFK, and MLK. I remember Goldwater.

I remember Wallace and Nixon and Reagan from the time that jerk was governor of California.

I knew people, lots of them, who voted for David Duke to be governor of Louisiana.

I could go on, but like Faulkner said, the past isn’t dead, it’s not even past.

My point is that never in my opinion based on long experience has America been closer to Naziism than it is now. We’ve got to fight against this in every way we can. Even if “fight” becomes literal.

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Kragar  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:28:01pm
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William Lewis  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:28:13pm

re: #56 Skip Intro

He could have run for Senate from California if Diane Feinstein hadn’t decided that the seat is hers for life.

Given how the senate seniority system works, I don’t blamer her as much as I might.

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:28:29pm

re: #42 Stanley Sea

Marriage is not something to be entered lightly, especially when you’re mature enough to know exactly what that really means. So the ceremony was traditional, serious and formal: The bride and groom vowed to love, comfort and honor but not obey. They exchanged rings and a chaste kiss, and then everybody applauded after they were pronounced husband and wife. And yes, they were beaming.

:)

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Brian J.  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:28:37pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

Jesus saves, the rest of you take full damage.

Jesus saves, Gretzky with the rebound and SCORES!

Yeah, I’m getting old.

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:30:44pm

re: #53 Targetpractice

You see polls about white approval of Trump versus minority approval, and you begin to understand why so many of the former go around declaring that Obama made racism “worse” when he was in office.

A lot of them are afraid that if they don’t support the white guy enough, another minority, or a woman, might end up president.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:30:52pm

re: #40 jaunte

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:32:41pm

re: #58 Kragar

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:33:58pm

re: #64 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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A cargo cult. Only their tinpot dictator actually does have real power.

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Targetpractice  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:34:23pm

re: #58 Kragar

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The problem isn’t so much rational people believing him, it’s rational people repeating what he says without criticism, establishing it as something to be debated rather than an absolute falsehood.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:37:29pm

re: #57 whitebeach

I’m 64 in Dec. I remember as well. Good post.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:40:37pm

Al Franken on MSNBC with Lawrence right now on Sessions: “well….” Then goes on, making clear that “this is not personal,” to eviscerate Sessions in kind of “stumbling stanza.”

He is so great at using his comedic timing in a serious manner. I love Al.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:42:12pm

re: #68 Barefoot Grin

Al Franken on MSNBC with Lawrence right now on Sessions: “well….” Then goes on, making clear that “this is not personal,” to eviscerate Sessions in kind of “stumbling stanza.”

He is so great at using his comedic timing in a serious manner. I love Al.

That’s my senator.

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bratwurst  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:43:39pm

re: #69 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That’s my senator.

You have the two finest senators in the country as far as I am concerned.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:45:40pm

re: #70 bratwurst

You have the two finest senators in the country as far as I am concerned.

We have our fair share of nutjobs - let’s not forget the recently departed Michele Bachmann (R-Mars) - but it’s hard to compete with Klobuchar and Franken (D-MN) when it comes to pure awesomeness.

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:52:24pm

IT’S NOT EVEN FUCKING HALLOWEEN YET!!!

(sorry for yelling)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:54:03pm

re: #72 teleskiguy

IT’S NOT EVEN FUCKING HALLOWEEN YET!!!

(sorry for yelling)

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Merry Christmas, ya filthy animal.

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Cheechako  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:54:52pm

re: #73 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Merry ChristmasHappy Holidays, ya filthy animal.

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:56:08pm

re: #73 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Merry Christmas, ya filthy animal.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:56:32pm

re: #75 teleskiguy

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*DINGDINGDING* We have a winner!

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:57:12pm

re: #76 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

*DINGDINGDING* We have a winner!

Get down on your knees and tell me you love me!

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jaunte  Oct 18, 2017 • 7:57:38pm

re: #72 teleskiguy

The faker hasn’t even put up a tree yet.

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:02:00pm

re: #72 teleskiguy

IT’S NOT EVEN FUCKING HALLOWEEN YET!!!

(sorry for yelling)

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Tis the season to get Christians riled up.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:02:18pm

re: #79 Belafon

Tis the season to get Christians riled up.

Also known as, “every season”.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:13:14pm

re: #79 Belafon

Tis the season to get Christians riled up.

It seems like the War on Christmas is starting earlier with each passing year. Soon we’ll be hearing about it in July! ;)

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Dave In Austin  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:17:46pm

Happy Holidaze till I die.

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:18:40pm
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Romantic Heretic  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:21:14pm

re: #40 jaunte

For those white people the yam is their chieftain. He is the representative of all that is holy and good about the American tribe. He must be supported or America dies.

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Cheechako  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:21:25pm

Just think how versatile the phrase “Happy Holidays” is”:

It covers:
- Halloween (Oct. 31)
- All Saints Day (Nov. 1)
- Daylight Savings Time Ending Day (Nov. 5)
- Election Day (Nov. 7) Oops - not a Holiday but should be
- Veterans Day (Nov. 11)
- Thanksgiving Day (Nov. 23)
- Chanukah (Dec. 13)
- Winter Begins (Dec. 21) Also Winter Solstice - a Holiday in Alaska as the days start getting longer
- The Real Merry Christmas Day (Dec. 25)
- Boxing Day for the Brits and Canucks (Dec. 26)
- New Years Day (Jan. 1) Another oops, save that Happy Holiday for 2018

See, just one phase covers a whole shitload of “Holidays”. Just using “Happy Holidays” means you will never have to remember which Holiday comes next.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:32:02pm

re: #84 Romantic Heretic

“Yam”

I’m beginning to feel bad for the dioscorea and ipomoea cultivars that have served mankind so well.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:34:02pm
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whitebeach  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:36:24pm

re: #85 Cheechako

See, just one phase covers a whole shitload of “Holidays”. Just using “Happy Holidays” means you will never have to remember which Holiday comes next.

You’re missing the point, which is that people who say “Merry Christmas” are headed for eternal happiness in Heaven whereas those who say “Happy Holidays” are doomed to an eternity of burning in a fiery Hell.

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Cheechako  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:38:17pm

re: #88 whitebeach

You’re missing the point, which is that people who say “Merry Christmas” are headed for eternal happiness in Heaven whereas those who say “Happy Holidays” are doomed to an eternity of burning in a fiery Hell.

Well, if that’s the case, I guess I know where I’m headed.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:39:19pm

I mean, I make delicious things with yams.

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whitebeach  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:39:31pm

re: #89 Cheechako

Well, if that’s the case, I guess I know where I’m headed.

Like Mark Twain said, “Heaven for climate, Hell for society.”

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Dave In Austin  Oct 18, 2017 • 8:47:59pm
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Kragar  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:05:13pm
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TedStriker  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:10:29pm

re: #56 Skip Intro

He could have run for Senate from California if Diane Feinstein hadn’t decided that the seat is hers for life.

He still can, just later…DiFi won’t live forever and, frankly, we could use her experience and guile in the Senate right now.

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TedStriker  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:11:36pm

re: #75 teleskiguy

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“one, two, ten!”
*unloads Tommy gun*

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:14:33pm

re: #95 TedStriker

“one, two, ten!” *unloads Tommy gun*

“It’s me, Snakes. I got the stuff.”

“Leave it on the doorstep and get the hell out of here!”

“Alright, Johnny. But what about my money?”

“What money?”

“AC said you have some dough for me.”

“Too bad AC ain’t in charge no more.”

“Whaddya mean?”

“He’s upstairs taking a bath. He’ll call you when he gets out.”

Best part of the Home Alone films. The film within the film, Angels With Filthy Souls.

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KGxvi  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:16:33pm

re: #94 TedStriker

He still can, just later…DiFi won’t live forever and, frankly, we could use her experience and guile in the Senate right now.

Kevin de Leon, the president pro ten of the California Senate is challenging Feinstein this year. Based on the list that wikipedia has for Republicans…

Declared
Timothy Charles Kalemkarian, perennial candidate
Caren Lancona, businesswoman
Stephen James Schrader, veteran 

Potential
Kevin Faulconer, Mayor of San Diego
Caitlyn Jenner, 1976 Olympic gold medalist, television personality
Ashley Swearengin, former Mayor of Fresno

Declined
Arnold Schwarzenegger, former Governor of California

It’s entirely plausible that they will face off in the general (we have a blanket primary now). Faulconer has already declined a run for governor and promised to serve out his term as Mayor of San Diego. And Swearengin already declined a run for governor and decided against running last year in an open Senate race.

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TedStriker  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:17:46pm

re: #97 KGxvi

Kevin de Leon, the president pro ten of the California Senate is challenging Feinstein this year. Based on the list that wikipedia has for Republicans…

Declared
Timothy Charles Kalemkarian, perennial candidate
Caren Lancona, businesswoman
Stephen James Schrader, veteran 

Potential
Kevin Faulconer, Mayor of San Diego
Caitlyn Jenner, 1976 Olympic gold medalist, television personality
Ashley Swearengin, former Mayor of Fresno

Declined
Arnold Schwarzenegger, former Governor of California

It’s entirely plausible that they will face off in the general (we have a blanket primary now). Faulconer has already declined a run for governor and promised to serve out his term as Mayor of San Diego. And Swearengin already declined a run for governor and decided against running last year in an open Senate race.

OMFG

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KGxvi  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:18:16pm

re: #89 Cheechako

Well, if that’s the case, I guess I know where I’m headed.

Better to laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints

Billy Joel - Only The Good Die Young (HQ with lyrics)

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KGxvi  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:21:24pm

re: #98 TedStriker

OMFG

Sadly, not just a wikipedia joke.

But I’m not going to lie, the idea of watching Pence squirm while swearing in Jenner might make me consider voting for her.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:22:33pm

re: #72 teleskiguy

IT’S NOT EVEN FUCKING HALLOWEEN YET!!!

(sorry for yelling)

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I don’t give an aerodynamic intercourse aimed at the Earth’s natural satellite what Cheetolini says about Merry Christmas.

I’m going to say “Happy Hanukkah” and rub it in further with plenty of “Happy Kwanzaa” especially to fools wearing MAGA hats!

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:25:53pm

This should be good.

Instagram

Mr. T and Huckabee. Tomorrow on @superdeluxe!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:29:18pm

re: #97 KGxvi

Kevin de Leon, the president pro ten of the California Senate is challenging Feinstein this year. Based on the list that wikipedia has for Republicans…

It’s entirely plausible that they will face off in the general (we have a blanket primary now). Faulconer has already declined a run for governor and promised to serve out his term as Mayor of San Diego. And Swearengin already declined a run for governor and decided against running last year in an open Senate race.

I’m in DeLeon’s Senate district. I’ve talked with him and am very impressed. He will get my vote for Senator.

What ticks me off are these stupid term limits that folks were tricked into approving. It takes time to master the ability to pass legislation and now thanks to these asinine limits the real legislative power has shifted to lobbyists.

I still remember the racist commercials that were run for term limits that were aimed at then-Speaker Willie Brown. The Republican Dirt Machine cranked the racism up to 11 to get those term limits in so they could boot Brown out of the Speaker’s chair.

After they passed, I remember the Republicans had a bare majority in the State House and even then they couldn’t elect a Republican to be Speaker, Willie would always peel off a couple GOP members. Then the Republicans even recalled the renegade members and Willie still held on to the Speakership…

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retired cynic  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:29:39pm

re: #102 teleskiguy

Not enough money, not in a million years….

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jaunte  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:30:44pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:30:48pm

re: #102 teleskiguy

This should be good.

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I honestly do not know which tub of lard is the bigger liar!

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:30:56pm

re: #104 retired cynic

Eh, the money estimate is passe and less entertaining than the “what cocktail of narcotics” estimate.

In which case…all the drugs. All of them.

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TedStriker  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:31:47pm

re: #98 TedStriker

OMFG

Also, looking at that list and of de Leon’s legislative record (what there is in Wiki), it’s possiblere: #96 teleskiguy

“It’s me, Snakes. I got the stuff.”

“Leave it on the doorstep and get the hell out of here!”

“Alright, Johnny. But what about my money?”

“What money?”

“AC said you have some dough for me.”

“Too bad AC ain’t in charge no more.”

“Whaddya mean?”

“He’s upstairs taking a bath. He’ll call you when he gets out.”

Best part of the Home Alone films. The film within the film, Angels With Filthy Souls.

After all these years, I didn’t realize this until I looked at his filmography, but Ralph Foody (Johnny) also played the police dispatcher in The Blues Brothers (skip to 4:22):

Youtube Video

Police Dispatcher: “Use of unnecessary violence in the apprehension of the Blues Brothers has been approved.”

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:35:40pm

re: #104 retired cynic

Not enough money, not in a million years….

Are you familiar with Vic Berger’s work?

American Horror Story: Pat Robertson Interviews Donald J. Trump

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retired cynic  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:36:50pm

re: #109 teleskiguy

Are you familiar with Vic Berger’s work?

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No, sorry! It seems as though I have once again leapt to a conclusion, and found it too slippery to stand on!

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:44:20pm

re: #110 retired cynic

He edits FVC footage in a very surreal way. This recent cut, with Pence’s entrance music, has been cracking me up every time I watch it.

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jaunte  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:44:27pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2017 • 9:54:17pm
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Kragar  Oct 18, 2017 • 10:02:42pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 18, 2017 • 10:37:31pm

Wingnuts duly enraged.

Facebook Post

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 18, 2017 • 10:55:29pm

re: #58 Kragar

I’ve said before - and I hold to it - that if Donald Trump walked up to me and said, “Hi. I’m Donald Trump”, I’d ask to see his ID because I don’t believe a single goddamn word that comes out of his mouth.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 18, 2017 • 11:07:45pm

Look at this. Doug Jones has a real shot at upsetting Roy Moore in the Alabama US Senate race.

realclearpolitics.com

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2017 • 11:12:58pm

re: #117 Big Beautiful Door

Seriously. If a senate seat in Alabama flips in a special election, that’s BIGLY shit.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 18, 2017 • 11:16:00pm

re: #118 teleskiguy

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Seriously. If a senate seat in Alabama flips in a special election, that’s BIGLY shit.

I’m almost afraid to make a contribution to Jones campaign because its like a kiss of death; candidates I make contributions to almost always lose!

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 18, 2017 • 11:17:46pm

Here’s hoping Roy Moore says enough stupid shit to move most of those 11% undecided voters to Jones.

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VegasGolfer  Oct 18, 2017 • 11:20:42pm

re: #118 teleskiguy

Does anybody really believe Jones will win with the way republicans cheat?
Feel free to prove me wrong.

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TedStriker  Oct 18, 2017 • 11:20:55pm

re: #118 teleskiguy

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Seriously. If a senate seat in Alabama flips in a special election, that’s BIGLY shit.

re: #119 Big Beautiful Door

I’m almost afraid to make a contribution to Jones campaign because its like a kiss of death; candidates I make contributions to almost always lose!

re: #120 Big Beautiful Door

Here’s hoping Roy Moore says enough stupid shit to move most of those 11% undecided voters to Jones.

Cautious optimism, folks.

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2017 • 11:23:21pm

re: #122 TedStriker

Cautious optimism, folks.

I like Bob Cesca’s way of thinking, which was repeated on every one of his podcasts back during the election when Chez was still around (RIP).

DON’T GET HAPPY!

Not until all is said and done.

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Targetpractice  Oct 18, 2017 • 11:24:38pm

I will say that if that if Jones wins, wingnut heads from here to Azerbaijan will explode in shock and rage.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 18, 2017 • 11:35:08pm

Figures; the Fox News poll doesn’t screen for likely voters.

thinkprogress.org

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 18, 2017 • 11:58:45pm

Nate Silver has Democrats up more than ten points on the generic ballot. If that still holds a year from now, the Democrats have a real shot at winning a majority in the House.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2017 • 12:08:43am

re: #126 Big Beautiful Door

To make Bob Cesca’s DON’T GET HAPPY slogan into a meme I hastily decided on this.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2017 • 12:10:49am

It’s actually a bit of shocker that Jones is tied with Moore…..especially as this is Alabama we’re talking about. If you’d asked me as little as a month ago, I would’ve said that Moore would pretty much cakewalk to an easy victory.

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2017 • 12:16:43am
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 19, 2017 • 12:23:59am

In Oklahoma, a jury finally convicted a white cop of gunning down his daughter’s African-American boyfriend after three previous juries deadlocked. But they could only agree on manslaughter, not murder, so the cop’s “phantom gun” defense worked to an extent.

yahoo.com

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Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2017 • 12:32:11am

USA Today decides to help the GOP by making today’s front page story about the question of the Russia investigation costs. As if the most pressing question to millions of Americans after 4 years, 11 investigations, and months of testimony over a “lie” told on the Sunday shows is “How much will it cost to investigate this whole Russia business?”

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 12:59:30am
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thecommodore  Oct 19, 2017 • 1:36:20am

Thread.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Oct 19, 2017 • 2:01:01am

re: #121 VegasGolfer

Does anybody really believe Jones will win with the way republicans cheat?
Feel free to prove me wrong.

It’s Alabama so don’t hold your breath that Jones really stands a chance. If anything, polling showing Moore is neck and neck with Jones will be used by Moore to raise more $$$ from his knuckle-dragging, foaming at the mouth supporters. That and to drive them to vote. If Jones does pull off a win then you can safely bet that Republicans around the country are going to be sweating bullets.

I think a Democrat once again winning in Alabama is one of the signs that the Conservative Apocalypse is nigh.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 19, 2017 • 2:19:16am

When Moore won the GOP primary, I raised the hope for Jones to 1 in 30. Now it might be as high as 1 in 20. The potential psych payback makes donating and working for him worth the upstream swim.

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 2:40:20am

re: #136 Decatur Deb

Yay!! Sure outsider cheerleading doesn’t do much, but I do hope yall find & feel some swings for on the ground juice.

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steve_davis  Oct 19, 2017 • 2:54:30am

re: #17 whitebeach

LGF is, as far as I know, the best place on the net. It’s like a perfect private club to which you can go and enjoy the most intelligent and experienced and informed and just plain sympathetic company. I wish we could grow it, though, for us and for Charles and godammit, for the country. I’m trying to recruit new lizards and I hope the rest of yez are doing the same. I don’t really know much about this kind of thing, alas, so maybe some of the marketing/biz types here can give some tips?

I am not trying to recruit anyone here. That’s what Facebook is for. Sometimes I just want a place to hang out where I don’t have to worry about unfollowing people who become unhinged, in either direction.

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 3:16:00am
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fern01  Oct 19, 2017 • 4:49:09am

re: #119 Big Beautiful Door

I’m almost afraid to make a contribution to Jones campaign because its like a kiss of death; candidates I make contributions to almost always lose!

Keep watching for a Bill Kristol call - and hope he doesn’t call for Jones.

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mmmirele  Oct 19, 2017 • 4:52:09am

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:00:14am

re: #12 Targetpractice

The “white working class” that constantly moans about how misunderstood they are and how nobody seems to care what happens in their community…have listened for months to black players and activists declare for months that they’re demonstrating against racial inequality and yet express puzzlement over what the demonstrations are all about.

Supposedly so superior but so dumb at the same time that they cannot understand why Kaepernick and other Black NFL players have been protesting for several months now.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:05:00am

re: #40 jaunte

I need to meet one of those 5% of Blacks who approve of what this racist “President” is doing to this country. That is truly baffling.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:08:33am

re: #5 b.d. (bill d.)

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Dave In Austin  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:15:02am
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Decatur Deb  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:19:14am

re: #143 Patricia Kayden

I need to meet one of those 5% of Blacks who approve of what this racist “President” is doing to this country. That is truly baffling.

Start with his cabinet.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:21:18am

Got another hot one

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:27:06am

jfc

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jeffreyw  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:32:13am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:39:55am

re: #141 mmmirele

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:43:36am

re: #113 teleskiguy

As long as blacks are hurt worse, they will accept anything that happens to them.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:46:04am

re: #151 Belafon

As long as blacks are hurt worse, they will accept anything that happens to them.

There, you just explained why some poor whites accepted slavery and why some were even ready to die to preserve it.

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Weaselone  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:54:24am

re: #148 The Vicious Babushka

It takes all of 30 seconds to find out how the process behind the sale of uranium one worked and yet this Hillary sold uranium to the Russians in exchange for cash persists.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:05:50am

re: #153 Weaselone

It takes all of 30 seconds to find out how the process behind the sale of uranium one worked and yet this Hillary sold uranium to the Russians in exchange for cash persists.

They don’t care. They need a fake scandal to distract from the real one that Trump calls “fake news”.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:09:17am

re: #153 Weaselone

Do you have a link?

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:13:07am

re: #93 Kragar

And 5 people were shot yesterday in Maryland by a gunman… barely a rippled. 3 dead, 2 injured. The gunman taken into custody later in the day.

A mass shooting every ~2 weeks. Like fucking clockwork.

GOP and NRA don’t give a shit. They never did. They’re more interested in selling guns to people peddling on fear and “personal safety” when the reality is that crime is near historic lows across the nation, but those states with the lax gun laws and highest numbers of firearms ownership have the highest gun fatality rates per capita.

Guns don’t make anyone safer. They just hike the death toll.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:15:15am

re: #151 Belafon

As long as blacks are hurt worse, they will accept anything that happens to them.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:16:56am

Whoa. CBS 2 News says arsonist starting tree fires too close to home. Four or five separate instances this morning. I think I’ll grab my phone and stroll around a little.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:23:07am
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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:24:38am

re: #157 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:33:27am

re: #160 Shropshire Slasher

Every other modern president has shown some measure of empathy and compassion, and can connect with children at some level. Trump has no compassion and no empathy.

He’s a black hole of empathy - and every attempt at trying empathy results in a worse situation and exposing the fact that the man is severely disturbed.

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makeitstop  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:34:20am

This flew under the radar yesterday.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:35:01am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:35:13am

re: #118 teleskiguy

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Seriously. If a senate seat in Alabama flips in a special election, that’s BIGLY shit.

Who is the “Other” candidate? Please assure me that there is NO GREEN PARTY ASSHOLE running in the Alabama Senate Race!!!!!

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meteor  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:37:02am

re: #163 Dave In Austin

I thought he was seeing Mitch McConnell.

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Weaselone  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:38:34am

re: #155 Shropshire Slasher

You’re Welcome.

Approval of these sorts of deal is ultimately invested solely with the President. There is advisory power granted to the CFIUS of which the State Department is a member, but they only recommend a course of action. They don’t have the power to authorize or veto the sale. State isn’t even the head of the CFIUS, it’s chaired by Treasury Secretary.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:38:58am

re: #98 TedStriker

Kevin de Leon, the president pro ten of the California Senate is challenging Feinstein this year.

Is he a Dem? I assume so since my recollection is the GOP is not anywhere near a majority in either house of the CA legislature.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:40:46am

re: #148 The Vicious Babushka

jfc

Did the Russians go to the DNC and lobby on behalf of ending sanctions, protecting their invasion of Ukraine, or hack the RNC emails?

/

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:42:37am

re: #72 teleskiguy

IT’S NOT EVEN FUCKING HALLOWEEN YET!!!

(sorry for yelling)

Well, I haven’t heard it said this year. So Trump’s Merry Christmas revolution has yet to really take hold.

/

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:43:09am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. It’s been a month since Maria hit Puerto Rico, and the situation is grim.

FEMA said that they’d get 25% power restored to the island, which was absurdly low to begin with, but they couldn’t even get to that level. They’re not even at 20%. That’s absurd.

It’s also Trump’s failure and depraved indifference to the plight of millions of Americans in desperate need for immediate assistance.

Trump would rather fixate on the bullshit uranium story and attack the FBI than let anyone focus on the failures of this administration to protect and serve all Americans. At same time, we’ve got trolls pushing fake Melania stories and deflecting attention from the fact that Trump’s entire admin faces a reckoning after lawyering up over the Trump-Russia collusion, as investigations continue and the smart ones take the 5th and idiots like Sessions continue to perjure themselves and enter perjury traps (also because Sessions still doesn’t care that he’s not Trump’s personal lawyer and has no authority to assert privilege on certain issues).

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:43:21am

re: #167 Sir John Barron

Is he a Dem? I assume so since my recollection is the GOP is not anywhere near a majority in either house of the CA legislature.

Yes, DeLeon is a Democrat. He’s my State Senator and I will gladly vote for him!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:44:25am

re: #168 Sir John Barron

Did the Russians go to the DNC and lobby on behalf of ending sanctions, protecting their invasion of Ukraine, or hack the RNC emails?

/

Alex Jones said they did…

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:49:17am

re: #159 Dave In Austin

I know we all want to believe this, but Trump does two things: Tweets what Fox reports in the mornings, and reacts to anything he thinks is a slight to him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:50:05am

re: #173 Belafon

I know we all want to believe this, but Trump does two things: Tweets what Fox reports in the mornings, and reacts to anything he thinks is a slight to him.

which is what a lot of his supporters do as well: they are glad to have a President who sees things their way

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:52:00am

re: #159 Dave In Austin

He’s terrified! On full spin cycle now. Something is about to happen.

Yeah…….maybe something big is about to drop and he got the heads-up on it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:54:37am

re: #163 Dave In Austin

There is absolutely no difference between Ben Garrison and the various cartoonists whose work appeared in Pravda.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:56:13am

Go read: dailykos.com. It will make you mad, open your eyes, and make you wonder what can be done.

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makeitstop  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:56:53am

Another Republican is hanging it up. Observer Art, what do you know about this guy?

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:58:22am

GOP tax cut lies… in a nutshell:

Cruz claims the estate tax cut will help all Americans.

Fact is that the estate tax doesn’t affect 99.2% of Americans. It affects only those who have estates of more than $5.49 million (double for married filing jointly). In other words, this isn’t the family farm being at risk, but millionaires like Trump who would have to shell out millions in taxes.

The only ones who benefit are rich like Trump.

Everyone else gets fucked as the $269 billion that is collected over 10 years is lost. There’s no making up for that amount, and there’s no economic activity generated by the rich to make up for that lost revenue. None.

It’s $269 billion that could go to infrastructure work or disaster relief.

Cruz doesn’t care.
The GOP doesn’t care. They want their fucking tax cuts, all consequences be damned.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:01:16am

re: #178 makeitstop

Another Republican is hanging it up. Observer Art, what do you know about this guy?

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Is that him getting sworn in by the ghost of Ronald Reagan?

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:04:46am

Heh.

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darthstar  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:07:24am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:19:45am

re: #157 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

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Yeah that LBJ quote works too.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:21:34am

re: #181 lawhawk

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Heh.

Fucking Trumpers.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:31:03am

I wouldn’t entirely put it past people on the left - they are humans - but I wonder if, when people have received threats from supposed liberals, they were actually Russians.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:33:19am

This “Sonic attack” story isn’t going away.
U.S. Tourists, FBI Agent May Have Been Hit by Cuba Sonic Attacks

Poisoning seems more likely to me, based on the symptoms. Maybe tainted alcohol.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:37:07am

re: #185 Belafon

I wouldn’t entirely put it past people on the left - they are humans - but I wonder if, when people have received threats from supposed liberals, they were actually Russians.

I remember that frenzy the day after the Vegas shooting, when right-wing bots tried to create fake outrage over a made-up “Leftist teacher” on Twitter who allegedly expressed delight that “Trumptards” were shot.

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:39:59am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:40:05am

re: #185 Belafon

I wouldn’t entirely put it past people on the left - they are humans - but I wonder if, when people have received threats from supposed liberals, they were actually Russians.

I’m sure a lot of these threats have been that. But yeah I can’t help but to think of Dana Loesch claiming gun control activists have threatened her. Something just didn’t seem right on that matter to me. VB makes a good point about the fake teacher outrage as well following LV.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:41:48am

This just happened…,

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Stanley Sea  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:43:11am

re: #149 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Here’s my doofus Chica

from last night.

Good morning!

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:43:38am

Or not?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:43:39am

re: #190 Scottish Dragon

This just happened…,

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That could have serious repercussions. Do they think Beijing’s just going to ignore that?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:44:05am

re: #192 Scottish Dragon

Or not?

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Nevermind then.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:44:05am

re: #193 HappyWarrior

That could have serious repercussions. Do they think Beijing’s just going to ignore that?

Who knows….

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makeitstop  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:44:25am

re: #190 Scottish Dragon

This just happened…

Dumb. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Trump sees this as another means of distraction. But it’s going to pop open a fucking can of worms.

Seoul will suffer. You know that’s where the retaliation will occur.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:46:59am

re: #192 Scottish Dragon

Or not?

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It seemed very plausible with the FBI closing in on Trump.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:50:09am

re: #197 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It seemed very plausible with the FBI closing in on Trump.

I agree. I think Trump will do something insanely stupid because the military is like his personal set of toy soldiers to play with.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:51:14am

re: #198 Scottish Dragon

And then the GOP will be all like: “we can’t impeach a President during a war!”

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:54:57am

re: #195 Scottish Dragon

Who knows….

TUNE IN TOMORROW!! because for Trump, being POTUS is nothing more than the ultimate reality TV show.

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:55:07am

re: #192 Scottish Dragon

Words have meanings. Did someone forget to include NOT or “No” when saying what could or couldn’t be going on with North Korea?

We are not discussing first strike.
We are not discussing limited strikes.
We are not discussing active military measures.

What I can believe that the admin (or any admin might do):

But we are implementing cyberwarfare and trying to undermine North Korea’s ability to sustain its economy through black market measures. We also want to subvert their industrial capacity to develop nukes.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:00:42am

re: #196 makeitstop

Dumb. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Trump sees this as another means of distraction. But it’s going to pop open a fucking can of worms.

Seoul will suffer. You know that’s where the retaliation will occur.

Yeah I hadn’t even thought about Seoul being stuck in the middle of this. Gah.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:02:01am

re: #192 Scottish Dragon

Or not?

We will all have to be very careful of this.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:04:46am

why why why would somebody be this freaking stupid?

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bratwurst  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:05:07am

Your misleading Drudge tweet of the day:

A) It was the best debut for a show on CABLE in Germany since Game of Thrones. Is that really “Going Wild”?

B) It’s a detective drama set in 1920s Berlin…so it’s just as much about Social Democrats and Communists as it is about Nazis.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:07:02am

re: #204 The Vicious Babushka

why why why would somebody be this freaking stupid?

He’s nine, and his parents probably know less about how government works than he does.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:08:39am

re: #205 bratwurst

Your misleading Drudge tweet of the day:

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A) It was the best debut for a show on CABLE in Germany since Game of Thrones. Is that really “Going Wild”?

B) It’s a detective drama set in 1920s Berlin…so it’s just as much about Social Democrats and Communists as it is about Nazis.

The Nazis were actually pretty small potatoes in 1920’s Berlin. Munich and Nuremberg always had much bigger Nazi support. This sounds like an interesting show though. So I grudgingly (ha!) thank Drudge for this.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:09:43am

re: #204 The Vicious Babushka

Tenn. boy gets a letter from Pres. Trump after sending money to help cover the president’s salary.
— NBC Nightly News

TRUMP IS SACRIFICING SO MUCH FOR US AND FOR THIS GRATE COUNTRY MAGA!!!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:09:49am

re: #204 The Vicious Babushka

why why why would somebody be this freaking stupid?

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I’d hope that his parents would have encouraged him to send money to someone who needs it. I get that she wants to encourage him to help people but Trump doesn’t need financial help.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:12:59am

re: #209 HappyWarrior

I’d hope that his parents would have encouraged him to send money to someone who needs it. I get that she wants to encourage him to help people but Trump doesn’t need financial help.

You mean to the poors and welfares with their Obama phones and food stamps people buying steaks on public moneys? The have flat screen TV’s!!!!1

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bratwurst  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:13:11am

re: #207 HappyWarrior

The Nazis were actually pretty small potatoes in 1920’s Berlin. Munich and Nuremberg always had much bigger Nazi support. This sounds like an interesting show though. So I grudgingly (ha!) thank Drudge for this.

If you are not familiar with the Philip Kerr series of novels about fictional detective Bernie Gunther set in the 1930s to 1950s you need to be ASAP.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:14:57am

re: #211 bratwurst

If you are not familiar with the Philip Kerr series of novels about fictional detective Bernie Gunther set in the 1930s to 1950s you need to be ASAP.

I am not. Thanks. I’m reading Winter right now, fascinating book about two German brothers in the first half of the 20th century.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:16:00am

One thing I didn’t know about Nuremberg until I went there. The city is mostly Protestant not Catholic in background.

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jeffreyw  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:17:12am

re: #191 Stanley Sea

Here’s my doofus Chica

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from last night.

Good morning!

Torties!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:17:33am

re: #210 Sir John Barron

You mean to the poors and welfares with their Obama phones and food stamps people buying steaks on public moneys? The have flat screen TV’s!!!!1

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Touché.

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:18:40am

Oh effing thrill… if it’s not one damn thing it’s another.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:19:50am

re: #210 Sir John Barron

You mean to the poors and welfares with their Obama phones and food stamps people buying steaks on public moneys? The have flat screen TV’s!!!!1

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Other than pawn shops and garage sales, where can you buy a TV that ISN’T flat screen?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:21:13am

re: #204 The Vicious Babushka

Tenn. boy gets a letter from Pres. Trump after sending money to help cover the president’s salary.

in an ideal world, all taxes would be voluntary

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:25:55am

re: #204 The Vicious Babushka

I wouldn’t be surprised to hear the kid say that his preacher told him to do that!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:25:55am

re: #217 Eventual Carrion

Other than pawn shops and garage sales, where can you buy a TV that ISN’T flat screen?

A 32” flat screen is $169, a 55” is $399. Hardly a luxury item.
I think they’re trying to exploit the way Conservatives don’t understand time, so to them the Democrats are the KKK and a flat screen is a $3000 plasma.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:26:51am

re: #219 Joe Bacon 🌹

I wouldn’t be surprised to hear the kid say that his preacher told him to do that!

I wish kids didn’t have preachers. Let them get involved with religion or not as adults when they might be able to question what they’re told.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:28:14am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:28:36am
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:28:42am
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:29:00am

re: #216 William Lewis

Oh effing thrill… if it’s not one damn thing it’s another.

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:30:37am

re: #204 The Vicious Babushka

why why why would somebody be this freaking stupid?

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Somebody - a teacher, parent, preacher, whomever, either directly coerced the boy into it or indirectly via the some libertarian poison like Atlas Shrugged. My guess is direct coercion because they wanted to show they’re better than those “others” picking on their special president. < barf >

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:30:47am
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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:33:59am

re: #225 Big Beautiful Door

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:34:12am

re: #226 William Lewis

Somebody - a teacher, parent, preacher, whomever, either directly coerced the boy into it or indirectly via the some libertarian poison like Atlas Shrugged. My guess is direct coercion because they wanted to show they’re better than those “others” picking on their special president. < barf >

I suspect the parents talked a lot about the sacrifices President Trump was making in order to take office, like giving up all of his businesses and his TV show. The kid, being nine, interpreted this has Trump becoming poor, and the parents encouraged it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:35:42am

re: #224 The Vicious Babushka

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I don’t disagree with his assessment but at the same time, it rings hallow for him to call out bigotry while he’s supported Ed Gillespie here in Virginia who has been using every dog whistle he has to get out the Stewart voters for him.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:36:08am

I do find it odd that only recently has “Jehovah, the lord God Almighty” become overly concerned about how the “media” delivers information to the “consumers”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:36:19am

re: #229 Belafon

I suspect the parents talked a lot about the sacrifices President Trump was making in order to take office, like giving up all of his businesses and his TV show. The kid, being nine, interpreted this has Trump becoming poor, and the parents encouraged it.

Yes, I think that sounds right. I’m sure he’s a decent kid whose heart is in the right place but damn.

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:36:59am

re: #229 Belafon

I suspect the parents talked a lot about the sacrifices President Trump was making in order to take office, like giving up all of his businesses and his TV show. The kid, being nine, interpreted this has Trump becoming poor, and the parents encouraged it.

As I said, coerced. The kid is not going to have sufficient knowledge of economics to understand how completely he’s being lied to by his parents and mass media and, probably being in Tennessee, his school.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:38:02am

re: #233 William Lewis

As I said, coerced. The kid is not going to have sufficient knowledge of economics to understand how completely he’s being lied to by his parents and mass media and, probably being in Tennessee, his school.

Yep wouldn’t shock me.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:39:02am

re: #231 FormerDirtDart

I do find it odd that only recently has “Jehovah, the lord God Almighty” become overly concerned about how the “media” delivers information to the “consumers”

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They hated any talk of restoring the Fairness Doctrine in the past but the second popular media started being critical of Trump………

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:39:08am

re: #231 FormerDirtDart

Jehovah, eh? Anyone using that spelling of The Name as their own could prbably use a fairly serious tweak in their med levels.

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Citizen K  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:44:38am
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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:46:17am

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sounds like they should pay people to come.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:46:44am

re: #237 Citizen K

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:47:37am

re: #238 Sir John Barron

Sounds like they should pay people to come.

I’ll listen to Pence for $2,500 an hour. Not a penny less.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:48:31am

re: #239 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Yep spiteful politicians for spiteful people. I don’t want the policies I support because they piss off wingnuts, I want them because I think they’ll benefit the people of our country. If you’re in politics only to spite the other side, get the fuck out.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:49:36am

re: #237 Citizen K

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:50:14am

re: #237 Citizen K

Cleek’s law is their only platform.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:50:34am

re: #241 HappyWarrior

Yep spiteful politicians for spiteful people. I don’t want the policies I support because they piss off wingnuts, I want them because I think they’ll benefit the people of our country. If you’re in politics only to spite the other side, get the fuck out.

Right, and they’ll benefit the wingnuts too! They just need to let go of their bigotry and hate.

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Jay C  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:50:37am

re: #222 The Vicious Babushka

re: #224 The Vicious Babushka

Anyone else notice that Dubya (never noted for his stirring rhetoric) can deliver the blandest pablum in a speech, and still have it come across as Statesmanlike Oratory compared to the egocentric incoherence our present incumbent spouts?

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Citizen K  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:50:56am

re: #241 HappyWarrior

Unfortunately, hate and spite seem to be the two biggest political forces in the country. GOP wins because they can harness it at the drop of a time, and hate and spite simply beget more hate and spite.

This is essentially their country to run precisely because of this.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:51:23am

re: #246 Citizen K

Unfortunately, hate and spite seem to be the two biggest political forces in the country. GOP wins because they can harness it at the drop of a time, and hate and spite simply beget more hate and spite.

This is essentially their country to run precisely because of this.

Oh yeah for sure.

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Citizen K  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:51:31am

re: #243 Belafon

Cleek’s law is their only platform.

That and the ever ubiquitous IOKIYAR.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:51:43am

re: #244 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Right, and they’ll benefit the wingnuts too! They just need to let go of their bigotry and hate.

Wingnuts would rather see liberals annoyed than their own lives bettered by liberal policy.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:52:21am

re: #243 Belafon

And the title of the article should mark that last part out and say “In order to get more people killed.”

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nines09  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:52:33am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:53:12am

re: #239 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Their base is spiteful, uneducated people, who can’t find high-paying, low-skill jobs anymore. Their free ride ended and they hate it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:55:41am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:56:36am

re: #253 The Vicious Babushka

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Yep. And Trump was happy to use that to gain power.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:56:39am

re: #251 nines09

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Amazing 3-D

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TedStriker  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:56:42am

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

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*snicker*

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:57:23am

re: #253 The Vicious Babushka

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:59:34am

re: #253 The Vicious Babushka

How long until Trump comes out and attacks him?

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Jay C  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:00:44am

re: #249 HappyWarrior

Wingnuts would rather see liberals annoyed than their own lives bettered by liberal policy.

And it’s not always really even “liberal policy” that gets the wingers riled up, it’s often policy that someone else (usually RW media) tells them is “liberal” and thus worthy only of immediate and total rejection.

ISTR reading once about a study of self-described “conservative voters” who were polled on various public-policy issues: and their approval/disapproval rates varied dramatically whether the “proposer” was cited as a Democrat or a Republican. Same policy, same wording, mind: just the differing source was enough to sway opinions….

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Mike Lamb  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:00:56am

re: #237 Citizen K

Also too, this son of a bitch would make light of liberal “snowflakes” and deride as politically correct any criticism that it the bump stock giveaway wholly insensitive to the families of the victims in Las Vegas, while at the same time throwing a tantrum over NFL players kneeling during the anthem.

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Citizen K  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:01:29am

re: #257 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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The problem is, there seems to be precious little we can do that isn’t immediately and wholly negated by the total inoculation the GOP provides. Mueller may be our only long shot to finally get them to start abandoning this shitshow, and that’s only if they can be shamed out of their usual MO of shrugging, declaring IOKIYAR, and letting the slavish media parrot them per usual to normalize it anyway.

We pretty much have zero power here to enact anything.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:01:29am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:01:52am

re: #259 Jay C

And it’s not always really even “liberal policy” that gets the wingers riled up, it’s often policy that someone else (usually RW media) tells them is “liberal” and thus worthy only of immediate and total rejection.

ISTR reading once about a study of self-described “conservative voters” who were polled on various public-policy issues: and their approval/disapproval rates varied dramatically whether the “proposer” was cited as a Democrat or a Republican. Same policy, same wording, mind: just the differing source was enough to sway opinions….

That’s very true as well.

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makeitstop  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:02:43am

I’m at Pep Boys getting new tires on my truck, and for some reason the national anthem started playing in the store. Wasn’t sure whether I should stand up or what.

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Citizen K  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:03:02am

re: #259 Jay C

And it’s not always really even “liberal policy” that gets the wingers riled up, it’s often policy that someone else (usually RW media) tells them is “liberal” and thus worthy only of immediate and total rejection.

ISTR reading once about a study of self-described “conservative voters” who were polled on various public-policy issues: and their approval/disapproval rates varied dramatically whether the “proposer” was cited as a Democrat or a Republican. Same policy, same wording, mind: just the differing source was enough to sway opinions….

That’s why I have to specify that contrarianism is a huge part of it too. They really don’t care about the policies, just reflexive opposition to it if it comes from one of those hated Libby Libs or Dems. Long as they lose, GOP feels they win, even if they lose out worse eventually. Their only goal is hate.

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TedStriker  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:03:22am

re: #264 makeitstop

I’m at Pep Boys getting new tires on my truck, and for some reason the national anthem started playing in the store. Wasn’t sure whether I should stand up or what.

Take a knee?

/sorta

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:03:56am

I’ve been trying albeit with little success to point out to my few conservative friends and family that conservatives are even bigger snowflakes than liberals are. I get outraged by things like discrimination. They get pissed off by coffee cups.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:04:34am

re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth

They’re not really followers. They’re more like cats

Feral cats

Who would eat you if you stopped moving long enough

girlfriend had a cabin out in the country. with a cat flap…she went away and asked her dad to come by and tend to the cats…dad managed to set the flap so that it opened only in…when she came back, about a dozen neighborhood cats were locked in her place

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:06:47am

re: #268 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

girlfriend had a cabin out in the country. with a cat flap…she went away and asked her dad to come by and tend to the cats…dad managed to set the flap so that it opened only in…when she came back, about a dozen neighborhood cats were locked in her place

I had 2 cats trapped in my bathroom over a weekend when the wind blew the door shut with them in there. It was quite a mess. I imagine this was a lot worse.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:07:22am

re: #231 FormerDirtDart

I don’t mind Jehovah so much, it’s those witnesses, always watching with their shifty eyes…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:07:36am

Trump is whining about Happy Holidays before Halloween ffs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:08:28am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:08:51am

re: #271 HappyWarrior

Trump is whining about Happy Holidays before Halloween ffs.

He’s pandering to the dumbest, most reactionary, Christianist- Americans.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:10:57am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t see how we get over a stolen Supreme Court seat.

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:11:25am

re: #268 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

girlfriend had a cabin out in the country. with a cat flap…she went away and asked her dad to come by and tend to the cats…dad managed to set the flap so that it opened only in…when she came back, about a dozen neighborhood cats were locked in her place

Oh god, what a mess. An utter disaster but I can’t stop laughing anyway…

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makeitstop  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:12:20am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

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W knows things we don’t. To hear him say that gives me a little more confidence that Mueller will get the job done.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:13:25am

re: #274 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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I don’t see how we get over a stolen Supreme Court seat.

That’s the reason why most Republicans still accept Trump. He got them the court. I’ll never forgive the GOP for that stunt. Gorsuch has been awful so far too. Nothing but a pathetic Scalia act alike with no original thought or perspective.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:14:33am
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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:14:49am

re: #274 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I don’t see how we get over a stolen Supreme Court seat.

I think he means more like it being an existential threat. Crappy people on the SCOTUS is nothing new. Look at who Gorsuch replaced.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:16:17am

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

Maybe he’ll call for Congress returning to its rightful role as a check on the president, even if it requires new leadership.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:17:44am

re: #179 lawhawk

GOP tax cut lies… in a nutshell:

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Cruz claims the estate tax cut will help all Americans.

Fact is that the estate tax doesn’t affect 99.2% of Americans. It affects only those who have estates of more than $5.49 million (double for married filing jointly). In other words, this isn’t the family farm being at risk, but millionaires like Trump who would have to shell out millions in taxes.

The only ones who benefit are rich like Trump.

Everyone else gets fucked as the $269 billion that is collected over 10 years is lost. There’s no making up for that amount, and there’s no economic activity generated by the rich to make up for that lost revenue. None.

It’s $269 billion that could go to infrastructure work or disaster relief.

Cruz doesn’t care.
The GOP doesn’t care. They want their fucking tax cuts, all consequences be damned.

Further it is neither unfair nor unaffordable

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:18:27am
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:20:40am

Trumpbots are so fucking stupid.

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:21:51am

re: #281 dangerman

Further it is neither unfair nor unaffordable

Huh? These tax cuts would be textbook illustrations of unaffordable because they are so utterly unfair.

We need to be raising taxes not lowering them; I’d like to see the tax rates that were in effect on 12/31/1959 put back in place because it was Kennedy lowering those rates that started this slide into fiscal idiocy in the first place.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:22:34am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

George W. Bush on Russian election interference: “This effort is broad, systemic, and stealthy…but ultimately, this effort won’t succeed.”

well, it succeeded in the short run

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:23:59am

re: #125 Big Beautiful Door

Figures; the Fox News poll doesn’t screen for likely voters.

thinkprogress.org

So basically it is a way to whip up the scared white folks that if they don’t get out and vote for Moore, the evil liberal demoncrat Jones will win.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:24:37am
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Jay C  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:27:55am

Have to hit the road - bbl

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:28:28am

re: #286 MsJ

So basically it is a way to whip up the scared white folks that if they don’t get out and vote for Moore, the evil liberal demoncrat Jones will win.

Hopefully it has the reverse effect and encourages Alabama Democrats, independents, and those fed up with Moore’s pathetic bullshit to vote for Jones.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:30:28am
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:33:24am

re: #224 The Vicious Babushka
George Bush on bigotry, conspiracy theories, etc.:

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“And I helped!”
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Ace-o-aces  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:34:05am

3D bullshit is still bullshit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:35:49am

re: #292 Ace-o-aces

Why is Apple promoting this bullshit creationist movie?

I noticed that amazon prime streaming also has a ton of Christian videos on offer

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:36:17am

re: #283 The Vicious Babushka

It’s going to take time to line it all up. Just think 6 months ago we didn’t know about the Uranium/bribery & now it’s come to light.
— melaniegore

This is a true confirmed FACT and we should take forever getting to the bottom of it but the Trump-Russia investigation is stupid, FAKE news and has already been investigated too long and should stop right now.

///

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:36:33am

re: #293 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I noticed that amazon prime streaming also has a ton of Christian videos on offer

The country is full of Christians, so that’s probably just good business.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:37:01am

re: #264 makeitstop

I’m at Pep Boys getting new tires on my truck, and for some reason the national anthem started playing in the store. Wasn’t sure whether I should stand up or what.

Gross. WTF is happening.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:38:02am

re: #271 HappyWarrior

Trump is whining about Happy Holidays before Halloween ffs.

Trump is—without question—the absolute least Christian president in my memory.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:38:35am

re: #295 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The country is full of Christians, so that’s probably just good business.

my thoughts as well. my baptist mother in law was always sending our kids Christian-themed DVD’s, this is obviously just an extension of that market

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:38:54am

re: #268 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

girlfriend had a cabin out in the country. with a cat flap…she went away and asked her dad to come by and tend to the cats…dad managed to set the flap so that it opened only in…when she came back, about a dozen neighborhood cats were locked in her place

This is fine

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:39:09am

re: #293 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I noticed that amazon prime streaming also has a ton of Christian videos on offer

“Christian” videos, huh? You know who else believes in creationism? ISIS!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:39:48am
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MsJ  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:42:36am

re: #139 JordanRules

reading that piece in whatever russian site that is was basically all the women (every one of them) saying that hollywood actresses deserved it, let it happen so they deserved it, were stupid so they deserved it, and the men saying that they hope it isn’t happening there but if it is is it small throughout the industry and weinstein is a psychopath, which of course no russian is.

pure russian propganda on how much better they are (that’s how i read it).

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:42:38am

re: #297 Sir John Barron

Trump is—without question—the absolute least Christian president in my memory.

In both practice and knowledge.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:42:54am

re: #301 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:43:17am

re: #301 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Of course, you also think you’ve accomplished more than any other President has to this point either, Donny Small Hands.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:43:34am

re: #304 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

[Embedded content]

But Obama said I in a speech!

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danarchy  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:43:40am

re: #293 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I noticed that amazon prime streaming also has a ton of Christian videos on offer

They also have a ton of Ancient Alien BS. They are just giving customers what they want. I am willing to bet the licensing fees on that crap are pretty negligible too.

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:44:12am

re: #302 MsJ

Yup, me too. And it’s timely propaganda that our own deplorable cult can latch onto.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:44:13am

AAAAND here is Ben Garrison’s most homo-erotic, wtf gay fetish Donald Trump porn EVAH!

D/scq0AqZRGMyn1m/YdLmjjDOEQlDDIb


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makeitstop  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:44:51am

re: #296 Stanley Sea

Gross. WTF is happening.

Inorite? At a freaking car parts store?

Also, the local news is on the TV, and they’re reporting a search for a body or bodies that includes Nassau county cops, FBI, DHS and ICE. Could be MS-13 related, but they’re more established in my county than in Nassau

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:45:09am

re: #145 Dave In Austin

I called this days ago when i saw Nunes was going to call them after they said they’d take the 5th. No other witnesses have ever been called after saying they’d take the 5th like this. This was his sole purpose…to get them to take the 5th so they could be discredited.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:45:14am

re: #301 Backwoods_Sleuth

Maybe he’s counting number of deaths. //

Naah. He just thinks his presence is enough to make things better.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:45:29am

re: #309 The Vicious Babushka

AAAAND here is Ben Garrison’s most homo-erotic, wtf gay fetish Donald Trump porn EVAH!

[Embedded content]

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:45:41am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

It already did

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:46:28am

re: #314 Eventual Carrion

It already did

Only if you think their only goal was to get Trump elected.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:47:37am

re: #311 MsJ

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:47:59am

re: #307 danarchy

They also have a ton of Ancient Alien BS. They are just giving customers what they want. I am willing to bet the licensing fees on that crap are pretty negligible too.

Yeah….YouTube is full of woowoo (some of which I confess to enjoying from time to time as a guilty pleasure on a lazy Sunday, especially the good stuff from the 1970’s, the Golden Age of Woowoo) and it gets plenty of clicks.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:48:06am

re: #301 Backwoods_Sleuth

JUST IN: Trump: “I would give myself a 10” out of 10 for my Puerto Rico response
— The Hill

If President Obama had said this about himself the wingnutisphere would have:

a)
b)
c)
d)

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Birth Control Works  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:48:06am

New Zealand has it’s first female PM.

I am so jealous

&&&

Science is so freakin’ kewl!

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makeitstop  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:48:16am

re: #309 The Vicious Babushka

AAAAND here is Ben Garrison’s most homo-erotic, wtf gay fetish Donald Trump porn EVAH!

[Embedded content]

Brain bleach, stat.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:48:34am

re: #287 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Amy Sedaris: The Demented Martha Stewart We Need Right Now (The Daily Beast)

Sister of David Sedaris?

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:48:59am

re: #284 William Lewis

Huh? These tax cuts would be textbook illustrations of unaffordable because they are so utterly unfair.

We need to be raising taxes not lowering them; I’d like to see the tax rates that were in effect on 12/31/1959 put back in place because it was Kennedy lowering those rates that started this slide into fiscal idiocy in the first place.

Sorry I was un clear
I was referring to the estate tax as being neither unfair nor unaffordsble

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danarchy  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:50:00am

re: #319 Birth Control Works

New Zealand has it’s first female PM.

I am so jealous

&&&

Science is so freakin’ kewl!

[Embedded content]

Youngest, but not first.

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makeitstop  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:50:21am

re: #321 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Sister of David Sedaris?

I believe so.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:50:34am

re: #313 HappyWarrior

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:50:43am

re: #292 Ace-o-aces

3D bullshit is still bullshit.

…that will make money off the rubes and those that want to watch to mock; kinda like the people who go to the Creation Museum to laugh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:50:55am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:50:59am

re: #321 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Sister of David Sedaris?

Yes, best known from Strangers With Candy probably.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:51:07am

re: #323 danarchy

Youngest, but not first.

Just depress me even more!

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:52:51am
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I cannot.  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:53:10am

re: #320 makeitstop

Will this help for Brain Bleach?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:54:02am

re: #309 The Vicious Babushka

You gave us two hidden clicks and I still looked and now I need an acid bath with a brillo and some serious alcohol therapy.

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Jay C  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:55:58am

re: #288 Jay C

Nope. Back.

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:56:13am

re: #231 FormerDirtDart

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danarchy  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:56:35am

re: #317 Dr Lizardo

Yeah….YouTube is full of woowoo (some of which I confess to enjoying from time to time as a guilty pleasure on a lazy Sunday, especially the good stuff from the 1970’s, the Golden Age of Woowoo) and it gets plenty of clicks.

Leonard Nimoy gets a lot of crap for doing the “In Search of…” series but I still watch it, I mean it’s all a bunch of bunk, but it’s fun.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:57:48am

re: #332 Colère Tueur de Lapin

You gave us two hidden clicks and I still looked and now I need an acid bath with a brillo and some serious alcohol therapy.

I’m still click-shy from yesterday, so I didn’t click.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:57:51am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

The blatant visuals on Fox bring me to the point of vomiting at times.

The other day, the Nerds were sitting with their legs open and their ties pointing to and covering their crotch. The Barbie Dolls were, as usual, dressed for their market.

It always reminds me of a porn movie.

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BlueGrl21  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:58:13am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s important that he’s speaking out. We need all of the former living presidents, Democrat and Republican, speaking out and united on Russia, the divisions in this country, racism, Naziism: the things that are absolutely poisoning this country right now.

I hate that they need to step out of well-deserved retirements, whether we agreed with them or not. But the nation needs reminding of what a real president looks and acts like, even the ones that did not seem all that presidential at the time. Because I tell ya, I smile a little fondly when I see W. now.

We need them united against what has happened.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:58:20am

re: #335 danarchy

Leonard Nimoy gets a lot of crap for doing the “In Search of…” series but I still watch it, I mean it’s all a bunch of bunk, but it’s fun.

If I’m going to watch woo nonsense, it’s In Search Of every time.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:58:58am

re: #336 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I’m still click-shy from yesterday, so I didn’t click.

Smart. Very, very smart.

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:59:19am

re: #253 The Vicious Babushka

Pres. George W Bush: “According to our intelligence services, the Russian gov’t has made a project of turning Americans against each other.”

Murdoch has ties to Russia…which is making me wonder just how long this game has been. Murdoch is trying to do the same thing in the EU (he already accomplished it in the UK via Brexit).

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:59:35am

re: #334 lawhawk

[Embedded content]Why does He need a spaceship

“He”?
Heh

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:00:22am

Don’t sub-tweet him in a speech. Call for him to resign or for Congress to impeach.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:00:31am

re: #330 JordanRules

It’s actually for the Melania stand-in we saw yesterday.

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:02:00am

re: #344 Belafon

LOL!!!

She’s being recognized more and more!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:03:17am

re: #309 The Vicious Babushka

Hczu3r3xwhJYpr2pXUGkfrfZXeWb9ZEOIkqvM4dwYH9VBc4RQe6cVdXdQV94ei1b/DKzmclh+mY=

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:03:26am

re: #345 JordanRules

LOL!!!

She’s being recognized more and more!

“I give her an Eleventy out of 10!”

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Birth Control Works  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:04:47am

re: #67 Dave In Austin

I’m 64 in Dec. I remember as well. Good post.

It was a good year to be born!

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:05:14am

on russia, today’s thought (you’ve probably figured this already)

imagine clinton won the ec and is president

there would be years (almost forever i’d guess) of explaining and separating two thoughts:

- yes, there was russian interference with the election
- they were not trying to help clinton win

it would never stop

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Stanley Sea  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:05:39am

re: #330 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

JFC

It’s all a banana republic/great leader scenario.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:05:42am
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Birth Control Works  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:06:10am

re: #70 bratwurst

You have the two finest senators in the country as far as I am concerned.

Illinois has Dick Durbin and Tammy Duckworth as well as the only Ph.D. in Science in Congress: Bill Foster.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:06:12am

re: #335 danarchy

Leonard Nimoy gets a lot of crap for doing the “In Search of…” series but I still watch it, I mean it’s all a bunch of bunk, but it’s fun.

I enjoyed In Search Of… when I was a kid - I grew up watching it - and I still do. Though I’m disappointed that the original theme music was replaced in later airings.

In Search of Theme Song.

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:07:30am

re: #309 The Vicious Babushka

TfEEYgRok6gRzLxnsUSzYXjDp64uh6ULq/oI2p1Ransn4ziYqkqaMQ==

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:07:31am

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Exactly. Glad Murphy pointed this out.

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:07:58am

re: #352 Birth Control Works

Not shabby at all.

I can’t play this game. :(

We have a Flake and a fake Maverick. Blech!

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:09:39am

We’ve got to fix this.

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sagehen  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:10:49am

re: #335 danarchy

Leonard Nimoy gets a lot of crap for doing the “In Search of…” series but I still watch it, I mean it’s all a bunch of bunk, but it’s fun.

Rob Lowe just did a reality series with his sons, looking for UFOs and ghosts and bigfoot. One of the sons is super-skeptic, the other son (and Rob) are very “I want to believe, I hope it’s true”. They never find anything, but they seem to have a lot of fun trying.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:11:10am
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Birth Control Works  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:11:18am

re: #357 JordanRules

We’ve got to fix this.

[Embedded content]

People will have to relocate to even out the districts —it would be easier and faster than working the gerrymandering out in court or wherever such battles are waged.

/ sort of

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Birth Control Works  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:12:49am

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:13:02am
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:14:33am

OK, Netflix really has to do something about releasing entire series at a time.
While it is satisfying to binge a whole series, I am now left with the prospect of further withdrawals as I await season 2 of Mindhunter

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:14:34am

re: #363 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

So let me get this straight, Fox is covering the President complaining about why the media won’t cover a story that he learned about from Fox. I liked this film better when it was called Adaptation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:14:35am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:15:03am

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Oh.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:15:40am

re: #351 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

I’m so fucking pissed he’s going to be there.

I hope the students raise hell & stay safe.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:15:55am

re: #363 The Vicious Babushka

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:16:52am

re: #368 Stanley Sea

I’m so fucking pissed he’s going to be there.

I hope the students raise hell & stay safe.

Your alma mater right? Hope they raise hell.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:17:24am

re: #343 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

It’s maddening how many will rehabilitate George W. Bush in the age of Trump instead of pointing out how Bush’s GOP paved the way for Trump

we must give up all hope of a better past. this does not make us weak, nor does it forget or condone the past.

i think this:
re: #57 whitebeach

My point is that never in my opinion based on long experience has America been closer to Naziism than it is now. We’ve got to fight against this in every way we can. Even if “fight” becomes literal.

if gwb is a voice right now, for how things are, right now, then he’s a voice.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:17:49am

sigh…

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:18:26am

re: #353 Dr Lizardo

Thank you for the smile inducing flashback to Saturday afternoons before a dinner of beans and hamburgers and reruns of Hee Haw.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:18:27am

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

I hope it’s not worst than Katrina.
Hurricane Katrina was an extremely destructive and deadly tropical cyclone that was the costliest natural disaster and one of the five deadliest hurricanes in the history of the United States. Wikipedia
Total fatalities: 1,833
Category: Category 5 Hurricane (SSHWS)

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:18:49am

re: #365 HappyWarrior

So let me get this straight, Fox is covering the President complaining about why the media won’t cover a story that he learned about from Fox. I liked this film better when it was called Adaptation.

All other media outlets must cover the same things and in the same way as Fox News because, um.

/

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Stanley Sea  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:19:22am

re: #370 HappyWarrior

Your alma mater right? Hope they raise hell.

Yup.

Only benefit is I get to see pix of the campus.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:19:34am

re: #361 Birth Control Works

They look ready to tear my throat out.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:19:54am

re: #375 Sir John Barron

All other media outlets must cover the same things and in the same way as Fox News because, um.

/

It really disturbs me how FNC is how this President gets his information and perceptions. For crying out loud, he was having Hannity consult him on the Iran Deal.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:20:17am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:20:41am

re: #376 Stanley Sea

Yup.

Only benefit is I get to see pix of the campus.

Hopefully your fellow Gators do you proud. I think they will.

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:21:10am

These wealthy institutions are quietly financing white nationalism

Neither Mercer’s involvement in Breitbart, nor his support for Yiannopoulos, nor charges of discrimination, have appeared to negatively impact his business. Renaissance Technologies now manages $45 billion in assets, up from $27 billion at the start 2016, according to Forbes. Outside investors pay a hefty fee for the privilege of accessing a Renaissance fund and a good deal of that money ultimately ends up in Mercer’s pocket.

The identity of Renaissance’s investors has largely remained secret. The company is not obligated to disclose their clients, who are generally required to invest at least $25 million. ThinkProgress, however, has been able to identify numerous investors in Renaissance by identifying institutions that, either voluntarily or by law, disclose how they invest their money. This includes reports from public pension plans, non-profit filings, and university endowment reports.

thinkprogress.org

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:22:17am

re: #371 dangerman

While literally doing the opposite of what he’s saying ala Gillespie?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:22:25am

re: #381 JordanRules

These wealthy institutions are quietly financing white nationalism

thinkprogress.org

More reasons to hate the Citizens United decision.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:23:06am
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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:23:14am

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

“But, since Obama waited too long to respond effectively to Maria, we’ll just have to bury Puerto Rico and start over.”

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Birth Control Works  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:23:43am

If you’re wondering about Yiannopoulos, he’s the tech editor for Breitbart, the conservative news outlet, who says things like “feminism is cancer” and, despite being gay, questions the role of biology in homosexuality. So he’s made a career of saying controversial things. Add him to the list of digital age oafs or truth-tellers, depending on your own point of view.

Of course, if you’re a DePaul student, you may still be unsure because the Yiannopoulos event collapsed after 15 minutes. Yiannopoulos was invited by the school’s College Republicans group, which seemed to anticipate a potentially rowdy audience. According to the DePaulia, extra security guards were hired, but the campus public safety department decided against trying to restore order. Chicago police, called to the scene, also were not asked to intervene.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:24:00am

Uranium Scandal?

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:24:47am

re: #387 Birth Control Works

Uranium Scandal?

People too clueless about how government works.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:24:53am

re: #373 Shropshire Slasher

Thank you for the smile inducing flashback to Saturday afternoons before a dinner of beans and hamburgers and reruns of Hee Haw.

I tried watching a couple of episodes of Hee Haw; I simply couldn’t get into it. Not my thing.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:24:57am

re: #387 Birth Control Works

Uranium Scandal?

The latest fauxrage.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:26:25am

re: #382 JordanRules

While literally doing the opposite of what he’s saying ala Gillespie?

I have no good answer

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Birth Control Works  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:27:08am

bbl

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:27:13am

re: #368 Stanley Sea

I’m so fucking pissed he’s going to be there.

I hope the students raise hell & stay safe.

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Jay C  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:27:14am

re: #390 HappyWarrior

The latest fauxrage.

Latest? IIRC, this nonsense was circulated around the media as part of last year’s Presidential campaign. A nothingburger then, which hasn’t gotten any more substantive over time…

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:28:10am

re: #393 FormerDirtDart

A camera needs to be at the bar where people could get a free bear beer with an unused ticket.

Fixxed

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:28:17am

re: #391 dangerman

I have no good answer

I appreciate W speaking out but it does come off hollow to me that he’s saying this while campaigning for Gillespie. Now, I know W wouldn’t be campaigning for Corey Stewart but Gillespie since he got the nomination has been pandering to the worst elements of Virginia politics.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:28:54am

re: #394 Jay C

Latest? IIRC, this nonsense was circulated around the media as part of last year’s Presidential campaign. A nothingburger then, which hasn’t gotten any more substantive over time…

Well latest in the sense that this is what FNC wants us to be outraged about instead of Trump being a total dingus to Gold Star families.

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Jay C  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:29:21am

re: #395 Belafon

A camera needs to be at the bar where people could get a free bear with an unused ticket.

I think that was a free beer: but it would certainly work either way…

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:29:22am

re: #394 Jay C

Latest? IIRC, this nonsense was circulated around the media as part of last year’s Presidential campaign. A nothingburger then, which hasn’t gotten any more substantive over time…

They claim there’s new evidence that money was going from the Russians to the Clinton Foundation and that the DOJ knew it and did nothing.

Impeach President Clinton!

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:29:27am

re: #389 Dr Lizardo

I tried watching a couple of episodes of Hee Haw; I simply couldn’t get into it. Not my thing.

I didn’t care for the humor but I usually enjoyed the musical guests and Buck Owens and Roy Clark were always worth listening to.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:29:49am

re: #394 Jay C

Latest? IIRC, this nonsense was circulated around the media as part of last year’s Presidential campaign. A nothingburger then, which hasn’t gotten any more substantive over time…

I remember the loss of nuclear *stuff* when the wall came down and the only capitalists in the Eastern Block too advantage of the power vacuum.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:30:13am

re: #395 Belafon

A camera needs to be at the bar where people could get a free bear with an unused ticket.

What I’m I gonna do with a free bear?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:30:37am

re: #400 William Lewis

I didn’t care for the humor but I usually enjoyed the musical guests and Buck Owens and Roy Clark were always worth listening to.

Fair enough…..Owens and Clark are pretty much legends. The humor….yeah, that left a lot to be desired. :/

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:32:06am

re: #393 FormerDirtDart

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When is his hate-speech scheduled to start?

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:32:39am

re: #403 Dr Lizardo

Fair enough…..Owens and Clark are pretty much legends. The humor….yeah, that left a lot to be desired. :/

Every time I look at my yard I sing “If it weren’t for crab grass/I’d have no grass at all.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:33:23am

re: #400 William Lewis

I didn’t care for the humor but I usually enjoyed the musical guests and Buck Owens and Roy Clark were always worth listening to.

I was reading Hillbilly Elegy and reminded how many of those mountain folks lived on our block in a working-class subdivision in Gary, Indiana in the 60’s before all the whites fled to the suburbs. And Hee-Haw was a fixture.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:33:57am

re: #402 dangerman

What I’m I gonna do with a free bear?

use it to keep Bryan Fischer away.

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nines09  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:34:18am

So from CBC I stumbled across this. A dog called Odin survives California wildfires after refusing to abandon his goats
You can click on “listen” under the header to hear the radio broadcast.

And then we have Trump.

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:34:47am

re: #391 dangerman

I will take all the help we can get too!
I am much more extreme than most in my view about us being in a new type of war right now but I’m going to steel myself against gaslighting as well.

It’s a dynamic very much informed by my race. Like the soldiers that go abroad to give everything for America and then come back to a nation that denies them full humanity, dignity and mortgage loans.

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freetoken  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:34:50am

Going live soon, presentation by the Royal Society, on “Why do some people become psychopaths?”

Why do some people become psychopaths?

We now understand psychopathy as a developmental disorder characterised by lack of empathy and guilt, manipulation of other people and premeditated violence.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:35:32am

Most of the people responding to Fox get it, but there are still some derpsters.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:37:18am

re: #403 Dr Lizardo

Fair enough…..Owens and Clark are pretty much legends. The humor….yeah, that left a lot to be desired. :/

not highbrow enough?

YouTube

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:37:23am
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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:39:17am

re: #402 dangerman

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:39:26am

re: #397 HappyWarrior

Well latest in the sense that this is what FNC wants us to be outraged about instead of Trump being a total dingus to Gold Star families.

And that Chuck Grassley is promoting it as a real thing by launching an investigation. Couple this with the call to end Russia-Trump probe by the end of the year and you can see the playbook.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:40:06am
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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:40:48am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:41:48am

re: #417 JordanRules

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Haha yeah way not to reenforce the cult image.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:42:28am

re: #417 JordanRules

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:43:30am

re: #412 dangerman

My parents would be roaring with laughter during the Carol Burnett show. Tim Conway as the old man… Or him spitting teeth out all over the bar after a fight.

First appearance of Tim Conway’s Oldest Man character

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Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:44:28am

So Trump accuses the FBI of treason, lies his ass off about the hellhole that he’s left PR, and Dubya comes out as the voice of reason.

I can’t leave you fucking people alone for one minute, can I?

//

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Stanley Sea  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:45:12am

re: #393 FormerDirtDart

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Beer be flowing!

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jeffreyw  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:48:29am

re: #402 dangerman

What I’m I gonna do with a free bear?

You will hold it in your arms, as is your right and duty under the Constitution.

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Jay C  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:48:49am

re: #417 JordanRules

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Yeah, well, good f***ing luck with that suit, dude: in New York??

“Supporting Trump is a religious statement”?? Hate to tell ya, man: but that probably isn’t even CLOSE to pushing the envelope of “weird lawsuits in New York”. Not by a long shot….

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:49:14am

re: #204 The Vicious Babushka

why why why would somebody be this freaking stupid?

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He’s a Republican.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:49:47am

re: #417 JordanRules

Not a cult.

/

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:50:11am

re: #426 Sir John Barron

Not a cult.

/

You’re the cult.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:50:13am

re: #420 Shropshire Slasher

My parents would be roaring with laughter during the Carol Burnett show. Tim Conway as the old man… Or him spitting teeth out all over the bar after a fight.

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my parents never watched hee haw - it was just silly stuff for the kids

we all roared over a lot of carol burnett - a bunch of brilliant people

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:50:20am

re: #422 Stanley Sea

Drink up Gators!

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makeitstop  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:50:59am

re: #424 Jay C

Yeah, well, good f***ing luck with that suit, dude: in New York??

“Supporting Trump is a religious statement”?? Hate to tell ya, man: but that probably isn’t even CLOSE to pushing the envelope of “weird lawsuits in New York”. Not by a long shot….

The judge should dismiss the case with extreme prejudice, then order the plaintiff locked up for being a Trump Cult knucklehead. I don’t think even the plaintiff’s attorney would object.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:51:16am

re: #423 jeffreyw

You will hold it in your arms, as is your right and duty under the Constitution.

i bow to greatness

you win

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:51:26am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:52:28am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:53:10am

re: #432 JordanRules

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If Trump were a Democrat, FNC would be encouraging trials for everyone who even met him.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:53:27am

re: #432 JordanRules

At FoxNews Twitter, yahoos go on about how Trey Gowdy is a great man. No mention of fraud or being a clown. Just a “great man”, because he lies for their cult.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:53:34am

re: #417 JordanRules

Trump Supporter Suing West Village Bar Demands Religious Recognition For MAGA Hat

this is why our forefathers had the foresight to separate church and state

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Stanley Sea  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:53:53am

re: #393 FormerDirtDart

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NAME AND SHAME

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danarchy  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:56:23am

re: #433 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I am sure this was done by an IRS civil servant and was not a directive from anyone political. Which means once Donald Trump hears about it he will direct the IRS to reverse the policy.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:57:46am

re: #179 lawhawk

GOP tax cut lies… in a nutshell:

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Cruz claims the estate tax cut will help all Americans.

Fact is that the estate tax doesn’t affect 99.2% of Americans. It affects only those who have estates of more than $5.49 million (double for married filing jointly). In other words, this isn’t the family farm being at risk, but millionaires like Trump who would have to shell out millions in taxes.

The only ones who benefit are rich like Trump.

Everyone else gets fucked as the $269 billion that is collected over 10 years is lost. There’s no making up for that amount, and there’s no economic activity generated by the rich to make up for that lost revenue. None.

It’s $269 billion that could go to infrastructure work or disaster relief.

Cruz doesn’t care.
The GOP doesn’t care. They want their fucking tax cuts, all consequences be damned.

It is unfair to characterize people who may have 5.49 to 10 million dollars “rich like Trump”. Professionals who grew up in modest circumstances without an inheritance, who are not even the top earners in their profession, but who earn a good income, perhaps in the $100,000 to $200,000 range, who are able to contribute the maximum to their 401(k) with a match from their employer, and who do not live extravagantly, can indeed accumulate that amount, mainly through their retirement funds. They are comfortable and affluent, but not truly rich. Their income does not even place them in the top 5%.

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Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:58:52am

re: #438 danarchy

I am sure this was done by an IRS civil servant and was not a directive from anyone political. Which means once Donald Trump hears about it he will direct the IRS to reverse the policy.

And order them to drop-kick the person(s) responsible out the front door with a pink slip in hand.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:02:12am

re: #439 Hecuba’s daughter

It is unfair to characterize people who may have 5.49 to 10 million dollars “rich like Trump”. Professionals who grew up in modest circumstances without an inheritance, who are not even the top earners in their profession, but who earn a good income, perhaps in the $100,000 to $200,000 range, who are able to contribute the maximum to their 401(k) with a match from their employer, and who do not live extravagantly, can indeed accumulate that amount, mainly through their retirement funds. They are comfortable and affluent, but not truly rich. Their income does not even place them in the top 5%.

If they do everything you say, and then retire, will they die with that much money? If not, their estates won’t be that big, and wouldn’t be part of the group being talked about.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:05:35am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:06:41am
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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:06:48am

re: #442 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump left off “with my base.”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:08:34am

re: #443 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:11:08am

re: #259 Jay C

And it’s not always really even “liberal policy” that gets the wingers riled up, it’s often policy that someone else (usually RW media) tells them is “liberal” and thus worthy only of immediate and total rejection.

ISTR reading once about a study of self-described “conservative voters” who were polled on various public-policy issues: and their approval/disapproval rates varied dramatically whether the “proposer” was cited as a Democrat or a Republican. Same policy, same wording, mind: just the differing source was enough to sway opinions….

This may not be as dishonest as it sounds. We may all do something analogous: after all, the devil is in the details. Two policies that are dramatically different can often be described using the same superficial summary. If you hear that Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell support a policy, you would probably react differently than if it were supported by Adam Schiff or Al Franken. You would assume that if you looked at the details, the Ryan program would be designed to help the wealthy, while the Schiff program would be designed to help those more in need. This applies equally to editorials and opinion columnists. You have to be very skeptical of anything proposed by conservatives or Republicans, even those that have seen the light like Jennifer Rubin.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:11:34am

re: #441 Belafon

If they do everything you say, and then retire, will they die with that much money? If not, their estates won’t be that big, and wouldn’t be part of the group being talked about.

if you manage to accumulate 10m and die without any preplanning re the estate tax, your estate would owe appx 1.8m.

in todays environment, when you get into even 3, 4 or 5million in assets, it is incumbent on you to do some tax planning and thinking about this

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sagehen  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:12:26am

re: #402 dangerman

What I’m I gonna do with a free bear?

Don’t look a gift bear in the mouth.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:14:24am

re: #261 Citizen K

The problem is, there seems to be precious little we can do that isn’t immediately and wholly negated by the total inoculation the GOP provides. Mueller may be our only long shot to finally get them to start abandoning this shitshow, and that’s only if they can be shamed out of their usual MO of shrugging, declaring IOKIYAR, and letting the slavish media parrot them per usual to normalize it anyway.

We pretty much have zero power here to enact anything.

For example, the GOP seems determined to force the ACA markets to fail, even though this seems bound to primarily hurt their own rural, older voters, all in the hopes the Democrats will get the blame. Completely nihilistic.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:18:33am

re: #447 dangerman

I understand, but I guess the point is that someone who pumps that much money into their 401K, if they started out with nearly nothing on their own, is probably going to be spending quite a bit of it on retirement. Yes, they could die suddenly, and then there would be taxes owed, but under normal circumstances they’ll be using a good portion of it, driving themselves below the cutoff. That’s part of the point of those Prudential commercials I keep seeing.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:20:26am

what w doesnt account for in his speech is that unless he is painstakingly specific about who he is criticizing, wingnuts will take it as a condemnation of “liberals”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:21:22am

re: #451 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

what w doesnt account for in his speech is that unless he is painstakingly specific about who he is criticizing, wingnuts will take it as a condemnation of “liberals”

I dunno. They’ll either do that or call him a cuck.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:23:28am

re: #339 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

If I’m going to watch woo nonsense, it’s In Search Of every time.

If you have to listen to woo, listen to Spock deliver it; makes it sound logical!

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:24:28am

re: #201 lawhawk

Words have meanings. Did someone forget to include NOT or “No” when saying what could or couldn’t be going on with North Korea?

We are not discussing first strike.
We are not discussing limited strikes.
We are not discussing active military measures.

What I can believe that the admin (or any admin might do):

But we are implementing cyberwarfare and trying to undermine North Korea’s ability to sustain its economy through black market measures. We also want to subvert their industrial capacity to develop nukes.

Here’s a idea for Trump: stop running your damn mouth and nobody would be even talking about attacking North Korea. No talking, no way of misinterpreting what is said. JFC, what a shitheel Trump is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:25:57am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:26:46am

re: #455 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And Walker who did this was very much championed by the mainstream GOP long before Trump.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:27:43am

re: #450 Belafon

I understand, but I guess the point is that someone who pumps that much money into their 401K, if they started out with nearly nothing on their own, is probably going to be spending quite a bit of it on retirement. Yes, they could die suddenly, and then there would be taxes owed, but under normal circumstances they’ll be using a good portion of it, driving themselves below the cutoff. That’s part of the point of those Prudential commercials I keep seeing.

oh i agree with you 100%. if the plan and timing works out.

focusing only on the could die suddenly part - ie with more assets remaining than you planned on (and ignoring spouses for the moment) - you mitigate that by getting some insurance, or you start giving (if your family gets along) or you resign yourself that some estate assets will be liquidated to pay the tax ($1.8m).

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danarchy  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:28:14am

re: #450 Belafon

I understand, but I guess the point is that someone who pumps that much money into their 401K, if they started out with nearly nothing on their own, is probably going to be spending quite a bit of it on retirement. Yes, they could die suddenly, and then there would be taxes owed, but under normal circumstances they’ll be using a good portion of it, driving themselves below the cutoff. That’s part of the point of those Prudential commercials I keep seeing.

Not necessarily, if they lived frugally to get there and continue to do so in retirement they can easily live off of the income generated off $5 million plus without ever having to touch the principal. Hell, they may even be able to keep adding to it in hopes of passing it on to their kids and grand kids.

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Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:28:22am

So Kellywise the Clown crawls form the sewer to correct us on Trump’s classless phone call:

Conway appeared to acknowledge that Trump did, in fact, say the soldier knew what he signed up for, arguing the problem is instead that the media is leaving out the “full quote.” Conway pointed to Wilson’s own account of the conversation, pointing out the president followed up with some variation of “it’s never easy or it’s very difficult.”

“It’s just the haters being presumptively negative, as they always are,” Conway said. “But you know what’s tragic? That family just suffered a loss … and yet it gets immediately politicized because people of privilege think they can score cheap political points against the president.”

“That’s what we do find to be most disgraceful,” she added.

No Kelly, what’s disgraceful is you dropped this turd on live TV just a day after the family came out and confirmed Wilson’s recall of events and stated how upset they were over the call. In effect, you’re following your boss in accusing the family of being liars and showing even less class than he by accusing them of trying to “score cheap political points.”

Conway said Trump followed protocol of prior administrations, despite Trump himself claiming on Saturday that previous presidents did not reach out to the families of fallen soldiers.

“Sometime you call, sometimes you write, sometimes you go in, you receive the fallen soldier in a casket with an American flag draped on it, everyone, for a reason—the American flag is there for a good reason,” Conway said.

Even when the victims in this whole mess are black, Kelly can’t avoid firing up that air raid siren.

“You know what’s in his heart,” Conway insisted.

Enough cholesterol to clog Niagra Falls.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:29:12am

re: #459 Targetpractice

So Kellywise the Clown crawls form the sewer to correct us on Trump’s classless phone call:

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No Kelly, what’s disgraceful is you dropped this turd on live TV just a day after the family came out and confirmed Wilson’s recall of events and stated how upset they were over the call. In effect, you’re following your boss in accusing the family of being liars and showing even less class than he by accusing them of trying to “score cheap political points.”

Even when the victims in this whole mess are black, Kelly can’t avoid firing up that air raid siren.

Enough cholesterol to clog Niagra Falls.

Kelly Anne is such a pathetic hack.

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sagehen  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:29:33am

re: #450 Belafon

I understand, but I guess the point is that someone who pumps that much money into their 401K, if they started out with nearly nothing on their own, is probably going to be spending quite a bit of it on retirement. Yes, they could die suddenly, and then there would be taxes owed, but under normal circumstances they’ll be using a good portion of it, driving themselves below the cutoff. That’s part of the point of those Prudential commercials I keep seeing.

If a couple has $10M, they could leave each of their 5 children enough to never have to work another day in their lives.

If they’re leaving more than that, damn straight the kids should have to pay some inheritance tax.

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:30:23am

re: #236 William Lewis

Jehovah, eh? Anyone using that spelling of The Name as their own could prbably use a fairly serious tweak in their med levels.

stoned for saying jehovah (life of brian)

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:31:25am

re: #458 danarchy

Not necessarily, if they lived frugally to get there and continue to do so in retirement they can easily live off of the income generated off $5 million plus without ever having to touch the principal. Hell, they may even be able to keep adding to it in hopes of passing it on to their kids and grand kids.

True. But I’ll say this: I think there’s a limit to how much you should be able to hand off to descendants. I support the estate tax for that reason. I would set it at college, a car, and a house.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:31:59am

re: #1 Joe Bacon 🌹

Why don’t you try Jesus and see for yourself

dear brenda,

i would like to try jesus but i’m unsure about which one to pick. some people are selling a jesus who says i can live in paradise forever without worrying about good deeds and by only having “faith” (??? not sure what that is) and sending lots of money in to the preacher. others are advertising a jesus that wants me to keep my wife in the kitchen, persecute gay people and islams, and make sure nobody ever says “happy holidays” ever again. still others say they will give jesus away for free but i have to be nice to weird foreigners and mexicans, even the ones who refuse to speak english. can that be right??

(signed) being a good consumer is the core value of american citizenship

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Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:32:15am

Stick to flash mobs, Dick:

Look for the wingnuts to insist that the lackluster turnout is because of the “violent” protestors outside and not because these fuckers are afraid to show up without their hoods.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:32:20am

re: #461 sagehen

If a couple has $10M, they could leave each of their 5 children enough to never have to work another day in their lives.

If they’re leaving more than that, damn straight the kids should have to pay some inheritance tax.

re: #463 Belafon

True. But I’ll say this: I think there’s a limit to how much you should be able to hand off to descendants. I support the estate tax for that reason. I would set it at college, a car, and a house.

Yep, I’m way more strict than you.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:33:16am

re: #465 Targetpractice

Stick to flash mobs, Dick:

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Look for the wingnuts to insist that the lackluster turnout is because of the “violent” protestors outside and not because these fuckers are afraid to show up without their hoods.

Good.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:33:40am

re: #464 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

The last episodes of American Gods do a great job on this.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:34:07am

re: #465 Targetpractice

Stick to flash mobs, Dick:

Look for the wingnuts to insist that the lackluster turnout is because of the “violent” protestors outside and not because these fuckers are afraid to show up without their hoods.

That’s why they wait until the middle of the night.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:34:30am

re: #396 HappyWarrior

We want a parade of ex presidents saying these things. All of the living. Hell, put a mic on a few modern Presidential graves. You might hear the spinning

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:35:07am

re: #461 sagehen

If a couple has $10M, they could leave each of their 5 children enough to never have to work another day in their lives.

If they’re leaving more than that, damn straight the kids should have to pay some inheritance tax.

remember also that (and yes this is a generalization) this is not double taxation - ie a tax on money that’s already been taxed.

a good part of the estate tax is on the increase in the values of assets over time - ie unrealized gains - and those would not have been taxed at all (yet)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:35:52am

re: #465 Targetpractice

Stick to flash mobs, Dick:

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Look for the wingnuts to insist that the lackluster turnout is because of the “violent” protestors outside and not because these fuckers are afraid to show up without their hoods.

It’s nice that they’ve learned that they’re unacceptable, and will lose their jobs if they cheer on a Nazi.

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makeitstop  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:36:16am

re: #470 Unshaken Defiance

We want a parade of ex presidents saying these things. All of the living. Hell, put a mic on a few modern Presidential graves. You might hear the spinning

We’ve got W and Obama making public speeches today. Coincidence? Maybe not.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:37:59am

If all Trump had been left with was a car and a house, he’d be pushing a broom somewhere.

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EPR-radar  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:39:33am

re: #461 sagehen

If a couple has $10M, they could leave each of their 5 children enough to never have to work another day in their lives.

If they’re leaving more than that, damn straight the kids should have to pay some inheritance tax.

Not so incidentally, the fact that planning can be used to reduce estate tax liability is a problem that should be fixed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:42:14am
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:43:30am

did you guys see where president shithead specifically demanded that the governor of puerto rico praise him for the half assed puerto rico assistance efforts?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:43:31am

re: #474 Belafon

If all Trump had been left with was a car and a house, he’d be pushing a broom somewhere.

No, he would be drawing Social Security, ogling Tomi on Fox and screaming about the colored lady on welfare driving a Cadillac!

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:44:30am

re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

in an ideal world, all taxes would be voluntary

in the u.s., they mostly are:

- you keep your own records
- you file your own reports / returns
- you pay (at this point it is a bit less voluntary) what you say you owe

some information is verified - mostly at the personal level - w-2, 1099, 1098 etc.
a large majority is not - even those requiring compliance, like charitable contributions - there are rules but you dont submit receipts.

most information is completely unverified - no one verifies a business’s income and expenses, or schedule C info.

and around 2% or less returns are ever even audited

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:45:00am

re: #439 Hecuba’s daughter

It is unfair to characterize people who may have 5.49 to 10 million dollars “rich like Trump”. Professionals who grew up in modest circumstances without an inheritance, who are not even the top earners in their profession, but who earn a good income, perhaps in the $100,000 to $200,000 range, who are able to contribute the maximum to their 401(k) with a match from their employer, and who do not live extravagantly, can indeed accumulate that amount, mainly through their retirement funds. They are comfortable and affluent, but not truly rich. Their income does not even place them in the top 5%.

So they shouldn’t pay a single dime in estate taxes? The vast majority of Americans will never accumulate anywhere near that kind of wealth.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:46:18am

Two additional comments on the estate tax:

1. My comment was not directed on the taxation but only on pointing out that people affected aren’t necessarily truly wealthy.
2. 401(k) money escaped taxes in the first place so that anything left over was indeed not a subject of double taxation.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:49:30am

re: #475 EPR-radar

Not so incidentally, the fact that planning can be used to reduce estate tax liability is a problem that should be fixed.

why is that?
whats wrong with buying an insurance policy to fund the tax and preserve the assets?
or giving away 14k a year to whoever you want
or setting up (legitimate) charitable giving?

look, any system can be gamed and when dollars are involved someone will figure out the best way how. some fair, some far too grey

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Mike Lamb  Oct 19, 2017 • 12:05:36pm

re: #459 Targetpractice

So Kellywise the Clown crawls form the sewer to correct us on Trump’s classless phone call:

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No Kelly, what’s disgraceful is you dropped this turd on live TV just a day after the family came out and confirmed Wilson’s recall of events and stated how upset they were over the call. In effect, you’re following your boss in accusing the family of being liars and showing even less class than he by accusing them of trying to “score cheap political points.”

Even when the victims in this whole mess are black, Kelly can’t avoid firing up that air raid siren.

Enough cholesterol to clog Niagra Falls.

Yes we do know what’s in his heart…Occam’s Razor, Skeletor…I mean Kellyanne…


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