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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Breakfast and Sex: Not Safe For Work; Jacki Schechner from InvestigateRussia.org is here today; Breitbart’s infuriating new conspiracy theory; George W. Bush is miraculously making sense; Bush slams Trump without saying his name; Trump’s DHS nominee is horrible; Tennessee Twitter account turns out to be Russians; Why Fusion GPS invoked the Fifth Amendment in Congress; Trump hates bailing out insurance companies while offering them tax cuts; and much more.

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gocart mozart  Oct 19, 2017 • 4:38:28pm

Why can the Nabisco Company get away with slapping the word “CRACKER” all over their products but if I mispronounce the country of Niger just once …

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 19, 2017 • 4:39:26pm

“Sex and breakfast”

Sounds like a good morning to me!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 19, 2017 • 4:41:06pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

“Sex and breakfast”

Sounds like a good morning to me!

Though which one you want first depends on what kind of breakfast you’re talking about.

Or what kind of sex.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2017 • 4:42:28pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 19, 2017 • 4:43:38pm

re: #1 gocart mozart

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Why can the Nabisco Company get away with slapping the word “CRACKER” all over their products but if I mispronounce the country of Niger just once …

I’m sure Trump’s staff are doing everything they can to make sure he never has to say the word ‘Niger’:

“We honor the 4 brave soldiers who lose their lives in Ni-*BONG!!!*”

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mmmirele  Oct 19, 2017 • 4:44:20pm

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2017 • 4:45:05pm

re: #3 Blind Frog Belly White

Though which one you want first depends on what kind of breakfast you’re talking about.

Or what kind of sex.

“It took a while to learn to eat my cereal with the spoon in my left hand and not spill it all over, but eventually I pulled it off….”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 19, 2017 • 4:45:41pm

“It stuns me that a Member of Congress would listen in on that call. Absolutely stuns me.”

What, did he think she sneaked upstairs and got on the extension?

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TedStriker  Oct 19, 2017 • 4:48:14pm

re: #3 Blind Frog Belly White

Though which one you want first depends on what kind of breakfast you’re talking about.

Or what kind of sex.

For Marilyn Manson fans who are so inclined, it could be “cake and sodomy”…

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 19, 2017 • 4:48:59pm

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

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Saying that women were sacred seems kind of sexist to me. But that’s just me.

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Skip Intro  Oct 19, 2017 • 4:49:12pm

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2017 • 4:50:36pm

re: #8 Blind Frog Belly White

“It stuns me that a Member of Congress would listen in on that call. Absolutely stuns me.”

What, did he think she sneaked upstairs and got on the extension?

No, she jumped out of a moving car.

The call was received as they were in the car together.

The insanity of the right wing is incompatible with basic facts let alone common decency.

He’s attacking a Member of Congress for calling out Trump’s absolute disregard for a Gold Star family again. Trump lacks all empathy, and the problem isn’t the Gold Star family, or that a member of Congress repeated it. The problem starts and stops with Trump.

Meanwhile, the more we learn about the Niger mission and what happened, the more we should be investigating every action the Administration took and why it took days for the remains of one of the members of the team to be recovered and why it took weeks before the Trump admin even acknowledged the mission and why it took 2 weeks for the Pentagon to send investigators to figure out what happened, and why there were private contractors involved in the support/SAR effort.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 19, 2017 • 4:50:50pm

The custom of former presidents not speaking out against their successors is just that, a custom, a habit if you will. It is not a law or a political principal or even really a tradition, since it is actually of fairly recent origin. Theodore Roosevelt came out of retirement and ran against his successor in 1912, for example.
If the Bushes want to perform a real service to the nation, they can take off the gloves and join the three Democratic ex-presidents in a no holds barred truth-bombing of the absurdly unqualified squatter in the White House. George H.W. Bush started his service to the nation as a torpedo-bomber pilot during World War II. He can end on the same note simply by saying in public what he obviously believes in private.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 19, 2017 • 4:52:45pm

re: #8 Blind Frog Belly White

“It stuns me that a Member of Congress would listen in on that call. Absolutely stuns me.”

What, did he think she sneaked upstairs and got on the extension?

If he wasn’t so obtuse, he would have known that the Congresswoman was a good friend of the deceased and was in the car with the family as they went to pick up his body. Apparently the widow put the call on speakerphone so everyone in the car could hear it. And here we are.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2017 • 4:53:14pm

This thread really tells the story:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 19, 2017 • 4:57:08pm

re: #14 Patricia Kayden

If he wasn’t so obtuse, he would have known that the Congresswoman was a good friend of the deceased and was in the car with the family as they went to pick up his body. Apparently the widow put the call on speakerphone so everyone in the car could hear it. And here we are.

Well, THERE’S your PROBLEM!
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:02:48pm

re: #10 Patricia Kayden

Saying that women were sacred seems kind of sexist to me. But that’s just me.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:04:14pm

Why is this deranged fucker running for the Senate rather than rotting in jail for dis-obeying the federal courts? (Purely rhetorical, it is all too obvious why.)
Roy Moore claims “it’s against the law” for players to kneel during national anthem

Roy Moore, the bombastic Republican nominee for U.S. Senate in Alabama, claims NFL protesters who kneel during the national anthem are violating federal law.

Moore, in an interview with time.com published Wednesday, made the case that NFL players — and conceivably, anyone else — who fails to stand and put their hands over their hearts when the “Star-Spangled Banner” is played is not only unpatriotic, but a law breaker.

“It’s against the law, you know that?” Moore told the magazine. “It was a act of Congress that every man stand and put their hand over their heart. That’s the law.”

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alloutofcrazyhere  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:07:15pm

re: #11 Skip Intro

It’s always that stupid tie.

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Skip Intro  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:11:34pm

re: #18 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

This nutcase was Chief Justice of the Alabama Suprememe Court - twice? You’d think he should be able to interpret the law.

I’m guessing in the rapidly approaching fascist America we can expect this to be the new normal.

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mmmirele  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:14:03pm

re: #18 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Why is this deranged fucker running for the Senate rather than rotting in jail for dis-obeying the federal courts? (Purely rhetorical, it is all too obvious why.)
Roy Moore claims “it’s against the law” for players to kneel during national anthem

Roy Moore is an idiot. Normally I do not call people idiots but in this case the guy went to law school has been a judge, has been a Supreme Court Justice in Alabama and he is still an idiot. The controlling case is West Virginia State Board of Education v Barnette, 319 US 624 (1943). This was the Jehovah’s Witnesses flag salute case and the justices ruled students could not be forced into taking part in patriotic activities.

What is controlling here is the agreement between the NFL and the Players Association. I don’t know what’s in the agreement, but given the dithering by Roger Goodell, I’m pretty sure the current contract has nothing in it requiring players to take part in standing for the national anthem.

So in two ways, by both settled precedent in the Supreme Court, and by the employment contract I think Roy Moore is a complete idiot. However he’s such a pander bear to the nationalists and religious nutbars that of course this is going to happen.

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ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:17:31pm

Everyone is trying to explain what Trump said. I guess they are giving their view of Trump’s tone and meaning. That is all it is; their version.

Trump never served. His family never served. I bet he would have prevented one of his sons or his daughters from joining the military had any one of them attempted. Trump’s don’t do that. They are leaders. They don’t do the dirty work, the grunt work.

Maybe that is Trump’s tone, no matter what he says his ability to look down on everyone and everything else comes through to anyone hearing him.

That is what you signed up for becomes “you chose to do the grunt work, I would never take that chance to get killed or injured because I have a big ego and I am too valuable…you are not…by choice.”

Sorry, the way I see it is any thoughts in Trump’s Goopy Brain is all just “sucks to be you.”

I get the feeling the widow, mother, Congresswoman and friends of the young soldier picked that tone up from Trump pretty quick. I can see the shock on their faces turning to “do you believe this #*&@ as it hit them.

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gocart mozart  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:22:21pm
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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:23:23pm

Should it surprise anyone that Faux has Ollie North on to defend Trump and attack Rep. Wilson?

No?

Because it shouldn’t.

This is what Fox does.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:27:31pm

re: #24 lawhawk

Turned it on, them, and yes they’re morally bankrupt. The completely lost any claim to morality when they elected Trump.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:27:34pm

Where did people get the idea that we don’t?

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ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:27:41pm

re: #14 Patricia Kayden

If he wasn’t so obtuse, he would have known that the Congresswoman was a good friend of the deceased and was in the car with the family as they went to pick up his body. Apparently the widow put the call on speakerphone so everyone in the car could hear it. And here we are.

Amazing what ‘those people’ can do with their Obamaphones.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:32:49pm

re: #26 Blind Frog Belly White

Where did people get the idea that we don’t?

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RW propaganda.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:33:59pm

re: #26 Blind Frog Belly White

Where did people get the idea that we don’t?

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more argument by false premise

why do you hate america??

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:34:51pm

re: #28 HappyWarrior

RW propaganda.

THIS WOULD BE A BETTER COUNTRY IF WE FORCED CHILDREN TO MUMBLE WORDS THAT MEAN LITTLE OR NOTHING TO THEM EVERY MORNING!!!! BECAUSE FREEDUMB!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:36:50pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:38:08pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:38:24pm

Dear Oliver North.

Some of us actually remember who you are. You have no right to call anything unconscionable. We know your character. And since Iran is a big thing with Trump, do you want to speak on your actions with them?

Shut the fuck up…sir!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:40:16pm

re: #31 The Vicious Babushka

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:41:02pm

This is like a triple jackpot for RWNJs: They get to mock a Democratic woman for being upset at the Presidents reaction over the death of a black man.

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:41:17pm

re: #33 ObserverArt

Dear Oliver North.

Some of us actually remember who you are. You have no right to call anything unconscionable. We know your character. And since Iran is a big thing with Trump, do you want to speak on your actions with them?

Shut the fuck up…sir!

Fucker is a walking disgrace to everyone who has ever worn an uniform in the service of the United States. If there were justice he’d still be spending his life in prison without parole sentence of making big rocks into little rocks.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:42:06pm

I get that there are some folks who don’t want to see us forget the bad shit Bush did. But I never worried he’d trigger a nuclear war if he felt like he was losing a dick measuring contest.

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gocart mozart  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:43:53pm

Read the whole post for more lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:44:52pm

re: #38 gocart mozart

LOL that’s pretty damn clever.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:45:10pm

re: #38 gocart mozart

Edge needs a little sharpening. /half

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:45:44pm

Kelly revealed himself to be an absolute monster today, a more than willing enabler complicit in the worst abuses of this Administration. Anybody hoping he’d be the adult in the room got a bucket full of ice cold water tossed on that sad delusion.

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Cheechako  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:49:43pm

Yesterday I had some hope for General Kelly. Today that hope has disappeared.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:49:48pm

Arby’s is supposedly offering venison, starting 21October.

They’ll only fuck it up.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:49:54pm

re: #41 goddamnedfrank

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Kelly revealed himself to be an absolute monster today, a more than willing enabler complicit in the worst abuses of this Administration. Anybody hoping he’d be the adult in the room got a bucket full of ice cold water tossed on that sad delusion.

Yep.

I’m done with the “I’m only hanging around to keep things from getting worse” bs, he’s as bad as the rest of them.

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:50:40pm

What’s missing in this is someone defending Trump by saying Kelly was a Gold Star parent who found nothing wrong in what Trump said.

What’s also missing is that same person claimed that there’s nothing that a person could say in that situation that would be appropriate.

Oh, and I blocked the dumbass because that’s easily disproven.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:50:40pm

re: #43 Blind Frog Belly White

Arby’s is supposedly offering venison, starting 21October.

They’ll only fuck it up.

Oh dear….

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gocart mozart  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:50:41pm

re: #38 gocart mozart

There’s a lot more at lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:51:23pm

re: #44 b.d. (bill d.)

Yep.

I’m done with the “I’m only hanging around to keep things from getting worse” bs, he’s as bad as the rest of them.

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Kragar  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:55:48pm

re: #5 Blind Frog Belly White

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 19, 2017 • 5:56:58pm

Such snowflakes, the lot of them.

Offend swaths of Americans daily but can’t take the slightest complaint.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:00:11pm

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

Kelly is a right wing extremist. That’s why he’s in the Trump administration. Today he made his first really public statements since joining the Trump gang, and made it totally fucking obvious where he stood.

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:03:50pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

He’s an opportunist who took DHS and then moved over to CoS. That’s twice he said yes to working for Trump, and twice he showed his intentions.

His public speaking/actions are no different. He’s enabling a vicious addled know nothing.

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austin_blue  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:06:00pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

Kelly is a right wing extremist. That’s why he’s in the Trump administration. Today he made his first really public statements since joining the Trump gang, and made it totally fucking obvious where he stood.

Everyone in this Administration is scrabbling around like hamsters on wheels trying to find a narrative that can stick.

They are flailing. Watching this in real time is the fascination of the abomination, like a fatal car wreck or a murder scene.

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:06:22pm
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Skip Intro  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:09:26pm

I see who trump’s next female victim is going to be.

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Kragar  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:10:24pm
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Kragar  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:12:04pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:12:07pm

re: #20 Skip Intro

This nutcase was Chief Justice of the Alabama Suprememe Court - twice? You’d think he should be able to interpret the law.

I’m guessing in the rapidly approaching fascist America we can expect this to be the new normal.

In Moore’s Holy Book, there’s a story about a Babylonian ruler who passed a law to force all of his subjects to bow to a golden idol. Three Hebrew boys refused to bow and were thrown in a fiery furnace.

I thought the moral of that story was that leaders shouldn’t force their subjects to display allegiance to symbols/objects. Guess that’s not how Moore sees things.

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:14:55pm

This takes Benghazi to a whole different level.

They left a soldier on the battlefield alive….

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:15:44pm

re: #56 Kragar

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Wash I have to respect women.

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Kragar  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:16:05pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:16:31pm

re: #24 lawhawk

Didn’t know that Kelly admitted that Rep Wilson’s account was true. Then why did he still attack her? Doesn’t make a lick of sense. Hopefully Trump will not be making any more calls to grieving widows. They don’t deserve it.

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austin_blue  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:17:28pm

re: #56 Kragar

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Ben Corcoran identifies the problem that will end the Human race! It’s the wimmenzes!

He should read read James Tiptrees, Jr.’s The Screwfly Solution. Or maybe not. Might throw him off his feed and mansplaining platform.

Idiot.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:17:42pm

re: #61 Kragar

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Fuck Kelly. The Khans were tired of Trump attacking the loyalty of Muslim Americans. That’s why they spoke at the convention. Sucks for Kelly if he can’t acknowledge that.

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Woods Witch  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:18:27pm

re: #1 gocart mozart

Took a look at his timeline. He’s a special kind of stupid

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:18:49pm

re: #62 Patricia Kayden

Didn’t know that Kelly admitted that Rep Wilson’s account was true. Then why did he still attack her? Doesn’t make a lick of sense. Hopefully Trump will not be making any more calls to grieving widows. They don’t deserve it.

Because she was in on the call. Never mind that the Johnson family has known her for years and that the sergeant was mentored by her.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:19:41pm

Rachel making the case that the thoughtless inclusion of Chad—ally in fight against Islamist terror in the region—pulled out of Niger after travel ban announcement. You can guess the rest. Interesting. Correlation/causation, etc. But Maddow is also saying, ‘hey, maybe this is why he went silent…’

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The Spite House  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:19:54pm

Interesting story on Maddow about how Chad started withdrawing troops from Niger the last week of September after we put them on the travel ban list.

Who knew racism could make us less safe?

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:20:28pm

re: #68 The Spite House

Interesting story on Maddow about how Chad started withdrawing troops from Niger the last week of September after we put them on the travel ban list.

Who knew racism could make us less safe?

I win!

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:20:29pm
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meteor  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:21:21pm

Jon Cryer is a Republican, but he has apparently become very anti-Trump.

Good for him.

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Skip Intro  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:21:31pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

No, it’s not just you. It is.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:21:53pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

No it is not you. The craziness is growing by leaps and bounds. I wish it were not.

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austin_blue  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:21:56pm

re: #59 lawhawk

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This takes Benghazi to a whole different level.

They left a soldier on the battlefield alive….

A Contractor would do it because the money wasn’t worth it. No Marine would, because his honor depended on it.

Privatizing the profit has its costs.

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austin_blue  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:23:33pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

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Not you. It’s up to eleven.

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Woods Witch  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:24:59pm

re: #75 austin_blue

Thanks for the update. My crazy-o-meter pegged last week

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:25:04pm

Kelly was dressed in mourning. Black jacket, black tie (with little with specks). (And maybe that was to honor the dead, and entirely appropriate—just an observation.)

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mmmirele  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:26:06pm

re: #54 lawhawk

Hey! Judge Bolton did this probably while we were deliberating on the case she has been hearing for the last 8 days.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:27:06pm

re: #78 mmmirele

Can’t wait to heal all deets.

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Cheechako  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:29:29pm

re: #54 lawhawk

So, as a convicted felon, does Sheriff Joe have to give up all his firearms?

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mmmirele  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:31:27pm

re: #79 Stanley Sea

Can’t wait to heal all deets.

They’re coming, probably after a good night’s sleep.

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austin_blue  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:32:02pm

re: #71 meteor

He’s a Republican, but he has apparently become very anti-Trump.

Good for him.

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He’s dying of a glioblastoma, just like Teddy Kennedy. He can vote his conscience and let his freak flag fly. After the horrible positions he has taken in the past, including the disaster that was Sister Sarah, it’s about damn time to repay the country for his sins.

Let’s hope he stays consistent in opposing this country’s fatal cancer that is embodied in the President.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:35:44pm
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fern01  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:39:08pm

As someone said yesterday “I hate this president*”. I never knew I could have so much hate inside me for a person I don’t even know. I also seem to have much hate for everyone who was appointed to work for him and of couse the fools who voted for him.

He has created a massive divide in the human race when thoughts of hatred are 100% related to who associates with the US president*

When GWB feels he can come out in public and not be sent scurrying back to the art room - it says so much about the current scum in the white house.

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TedStriker  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:40:14pm

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:41:44pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:42:13pm
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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:44:17pm

re: #80 Cheechako

So, as a convicted felon, does Sheriff Joe have to give up all his firearms?

No, because of the pardon. He is not legally a felon because of that - which is why it is so important to prevent him from scrubbing the historical record.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:44:22pm
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Citizen K  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:44:30pm

Welp. It was a nice run guys. But looks like it’s over now. We’re all Kansas now.

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austin_blue  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:46:30pm

re: #83 Stanley Sea

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The commenter misses the point. The facts on the ground are *always* obscure when embedded troops are with foreign military units when something really bad happens. It’s the nature of warfare. Especially when all of the embed troops are all killed.

The point is that the POTUS should contact the families and give them his deepest condolences (as opposed to “warmest”) for their loss. On this fundamental level, dRump fucked the dog, and won’t own up to it. He’s an asshole.

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austin_blue  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:49:36pm

re: #90 Citizen K

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Welp. It was a nice run guys. But looks like it’s over now. We’re all Kansas now.

So much for the moral courage of Collins and McCain.

My ass already hurts.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:49:36pm
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:52:28pm

Life just got harder.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:52:38pm

re: #87 Charles Johnson

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austin_blue  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:52:48pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

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Grover Nordquist is on the streets doing the Electric Slide.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:53:30pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:54:01pm

...

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Kragar  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:54:11pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:54:38pm

re: #95 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Republican ‘patriotism’ is indistinguishable from treason.

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austin_blue  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:55:24pm

re: #95 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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He’s gay. Probably not.

He’d find out his reality was synonymous with a gulag. Which, come to think of it, would be a win/win for America.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:56:19pm

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austin_blue  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:58:07pm

re: #102 The Vicious Babushka

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Do you want two scoops?

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Citizen K  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:58:16pm

re: #92 austin_blue

So much for the moral courage of Collins and McCain.

My ass already hurts.

Sigh….yeah, just…fuck all.

It’s never getting any better. Every new day brings a new tragedy that we can’t wake up from.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 6:59:25pm

My wife and I just got back from Scottsbluff. We just retired the Smart car.

It cost us $560 to retire it. We had to special order the tires three days ago, as no one around here stocks tires for a Smart.

With Winter approaching (though it was 82 today), and extensive tire wear, we needed new tires.

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:01:15pm

Well done stupid ass Republican voters!
Well done Putin!

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:01:31pm

re: #99 Kragar

Kansas, but shot in the foot with extra xenophobia.

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Skip Intro  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:03:27pm

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹

I though you got smart and got rid of it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:05:38pm

re: #107 jaunte

Hey all you republicans who had your jobs stolen by immigrants. Here’s your chance to work again.

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austin_blue  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:06:58pm

re: #107 jaunte

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Kansas, but shot in the foot with extra xenophobia.

Happened in Alabama and Georgia last year. After all this State has been through this year, it’s only fair that stupid public policy t-bones the Lone Star State in the Ag sector.

Stupid Republicans do stupid things. Situation normal, all fucked up.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:08:14pm

All those Trump voting farmers are feeling pretty satisfied right now. “My crops are rotting, but the country’s on the right track.”

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Citizen K  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:09:34pm

re: #111 jaunte

All those Trump voting farmers are feeling pretty satisfied right now. “My crops are rotting, but the country’s on the right track.”

“My field may be wasting away, but least I can be proud my country is pure White again!!”

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Kragar  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:10:09pm
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austin_blue  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:16:39pm

re: #106 JordanRules

Well done stupid ass Republican voters!
Well done Putin!

The R’s will make sure that Putin will get tired of really winning so much. Just exhausted. And laughing his Bolshevik chelovek KGB ass off.

Oh, and they are not worried about deficits anymore? But..but Obama’s deficits were the death to our economy! (But these tax cuts are going to cripple the safety net and lead to a huge decrease in cost allocations to Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.) Oh and private pension fund insurance will no longer be guaranteed by the Feds.

It’s a disaster.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:17:01pm

re: #26 Blind Frog Belly White

Where did people get the idea that we don’t?

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It was banned along with Bibles, mom, apple pie, and virginity when we kicked God out of the schools.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:17:58pm

re: #88 William Lewis

I did catch your comment at your photo page. About lenses and the look they bring? Th e latest generation of digital cinema cameras are ultra high res and precise. So much so that Cinematographers are having super sharp lenses made for film (each unique stock) that brought a certain look. Not the expensive cinema lenses with state of the art coatings are being taken apart, coatings removed, other mods applied to bring a certain look back in from just (boring, flat) ultra sharp and strong contrast.

Takeaway-The right look comes from unexpected places a lot of the time. And the guys with the most money have come full circle chasing what you did in a still and a $40 lens.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:18:22pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:20:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:21:16pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

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Yep but as long as those people get hurt. They don’t care.

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:26:13pm

re: #1 gocart mozart

re: #65 Woods Witch

Took a look at his timeline. He’s a special kind of stupid

I’m almost certain that guy is riffing on the right wing nuts. He liked my dig at him and didn’t block me (like his profile says). I think he’s satire.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:26:30pm

I had to cool down after hearing Kelly’s remarks.

I will say that I want nothing to ever do with him and his ilk.

I expected to be insulted again.

I have moved on with my life.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:28:47pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

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Charles, poor whites do not care as long as they believe that people of color are getting smacked down. Just like LBJ said 50 years ago!

LBJ told the absolute truth!
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Interesting Times  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:29:28pm
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Citizen K  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:30:13pm

re: #119 HappyWarrior

Yep but as long as those people get hurt. They don’t care.

As long as the ‘wrong’ people get put in their place, ‘Real Americans’ can be proud, even when they’re driven into destitution. They can at least take solace in all those ‘fake Americans’ being driven into worse destitution and being treated like the subhumans they are, after all.

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freetoken  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:30:46pm

re: #122 Joe Bacon 🌹

Part of the butthurt over Finding Your Roots is due in no small part because the show talks so much about America’s history with slavery.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:30:58pm

re: #26 Blind Frog Belly White

Where did people get the idea that we don’t?

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I would probably reply to that mentioning that the hand-over-heart pledge was a relatively modern tradition and asking them if they would like to go back to the way that was originally observed.

I have a feeling that more than a few would be perfectly fine with the idea
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:31:05pm

re: #41 goddamnedfrank

Kelly revealed himself to be an absolute monster today, a more than willing enabler complicit in the worst abuses of this Administration. Anybody hoping he’d be the adult in the room got a bucket full of ice cold water tossed on that sad delusion.

I’ve been after everyone I know (and a couple people here) who claimed that Kelly would somehow be a moderating influence on Trump.

Regardless of what Kelly thinks, he knew what Donald Trump was when he signed on to his staff as the shortest DHS Chief in history then Chief-of-Staff. His honour and integrity went out the window the second he said, “Yes sir, Mr. Trump.”

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:32:10pm

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹

My wife and I just got back from Scottsbluff. We just retired the Smart car.

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What does retired mean? You can order tires online and have them delivered to your door for free.

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fern01  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:33:28pm

re: #97 Stanley Sea

They all lie - every last one of them - there are no honerable people in this administration and no truthful republicans in congress - NONE.

As for taking from the poor to give to the rich - the poor deluded idiots who voted fro trump will reap their reward. Shame that the sane folks have to suffer with them.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:34:09pm

Start at the first tweet, but thread

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freetoken  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:35:50pm

re: #126 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Note:

The Bellamy salute is a palm-up salute described by Francis Bellamy, the author of the American Pledge of Allegiance, as the gesture which was to accompany the pledge. During the period when it was used with the Pledge of Allegiance, it was sometimes known as the “flag salute”. Both the Pledge and its salute originated in 1892. Later, during the 1920s and 1930s, Italian fascists and Nazis adopted a salute which was very similar (but palm-down), and which was derived from the Roman salute, a gesture that was popularly (albeit erroneously) believed to have been used in ancient Rome.[1] This resulted in controversy over the use of the Bellamy salute in the United States. It was officially replaced by the hand-over-heart salute when Congress amended the Flag Code on December 22, 1942.

See also:

en.wikipedia.org

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Skip Intro  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:39:17pm

re: #131 freetoken

When will the Bellamy salute be reinstituted to pledge alligence to a portrait of Trump? By 2019 at the latest is my guess.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:39:29pm

re: #131 freetoken

The photo has the kids doing the hand down Nazi salute. Is it fake?

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Dave In Austin  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:40:33pm

Evening Folks….

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Citizen K  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:40:34pm

re: #133 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The photo has the kids doing the hand down Nazi salute. Is it fake?

From the wikipedia article:

The initial civilian salute was replaced with a hand-on-heart gesture, followed by the extension of the arm as described by Bellamy. Though the instruction called for the palm to be up, many found this awkward, and performed it with the palm down (see pictures above).

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freetoken  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:40:55pm

Tonight’s episode of The Good Place had some particularly biting dry humor, for philosophy appreciators.

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freetoken  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:41:40pm

re: #133 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The photo has the kids doing the hand down Nazi salute. Is it fake?

I’ve never really looked for hard evidence of the provenance of that particular image. I suspect it is from an archive somewhere.

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:41:59pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:42:10pm

re: #135 Citizen K

From the wikipedia article:

It is awkward.

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:43:57pm

Posted earlier, but worth another hit.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:45:47pm

The stolen power of this government is killing people.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:46:27pm
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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:55:28pm

re: #141 jaunte

Thanks for saying stolen! It is and too many people don’t recognize that.

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Citizen K  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:56:09pm

re: #141 jaunte

re: #142 jaunte

This is just…yeah. The GOP is getting its utopia by hook or by crook, and we can’t do a fucking goddamn thing about it. They’ll get their way no matter what, and we’ll all suffer for it no matter how hard we fight. Even if we get the House by ‘18, the damage will be done and may be just straight up unfixable.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:56:12pm

OK, what was just on FOX News?

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2017 • 7:58:12pm
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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:00:32pm

re: #145 FormerDirtDart

He pushes his shit and it’s always on the backs of POC and women. Cause it works and the Kremlin op knew it too.

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Skip Intro  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:01:15pm

re: #146 jaunte

No, he’s just the most evil man to ever achieve high office in the US and his equally evil collaborators are standing by him all the way.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:01:22pm

re: #59 lawhawk

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This takes Benghazi to a whole different level.

They left a soldier on the battlefield alive….

That’s not what the tweet says. It says the Department of Defense is still trying to determine what happened. The fact his emergency beacon was on doesn’t mean he was alive. (I worked on the older Navy version of those, the AN/PRC-90: A good battery on beacon mode will last at most a couple days.)

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:01:23pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:01:52pm

re: #145 FormerDirtDart

OK, what was just on FOX News?

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Oh, I wish President Teeneytinypeepee didn’t block me…

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:04:51pm
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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:05:39pm

re: #145 FormerDirtDart

These people are in mourning and will continue to receive death threats from the cult. This is despicable.

I’m so angry right now.

And yes, I’ll be calling my Congress critters about the tax theft/Medicare sabotage as well!

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:06:16pm

Next week I have a interesting shoot to do for a client. Lots going on, so we chose this rig for flexibility of motion.

Not long ago this kind of thing was a handful to control. With bluetooth and a phone, not so bad.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:07:14pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:07:30pm

re: #128 MsJ

What does retired mean? You can order tires online and have them delivered to your door for free.

Retired, as in we had new tires put on it. I suppose I could order tires on-line and have them delivered to my door (which would take at least as long plus shipping plus UPS saying they won’t deliver stuff to my house because I am over sixty miles from their depot).

Then I would have to figure out how to get the tires to the tire shop in Scottsbluff (also sixty miles).

It was a lot easier just to ask the tire shop to order them, plus they have the supply chain and such.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:10:59pm

re: #155 goddamnedfrank

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Me fail economics? That’s unpossible.

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:11:19pm

Thread on Pompeo shadiness. This our CIA Director FFS.
They are burrowing in and it’s going to get worse.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:13:38pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:15:58pm

As a reminder, the President issued a proclamation declaring this National Character Counts Week.
whitehouse.gov

Maybe John Kelly should read it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:18:41pm

re: #159 goddamnedfrank

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Secretly implies the Johnsons didn’t know. Stfu you big baby.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:19:37pm

Trump making a family’s loss about himself. Probably one of the most deplorable things he’s done as POTUS.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:20:23pm

re: #160 Anymouse 🌹

As a reminder, the President issued a proclamation declaring this National KKKharaKKKter KKKounts WeeKKK.
whitehouse.gov

Maybe John Kelly should read it.

FIFY!

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:30:54pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:31:24pm

So after the new budget sends the country into recession does Trump get the boot?

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:31:45pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:40:28pm
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Kragar  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:41:41pm
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Kragar  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:47:25pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:48:23pm

Wonkette with an article about John Kelly’s self-evisceration:
wonkette.com

calling him out for the hypocrite he is.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:49:22pm

re: #169 Kragar

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That’ll infuriate him given his obsession with others ratings.

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Kragar  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:51:43pm
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CBGB  Oct 19, 2017 • 8:56:43pm

re: #42 Cheechako

Mattis is the one people should be watching.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:05:20pm

re: #126 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

I would probably reply to that mentioning that the hand-over-heart pledge was a relatively modern tradition and asking them if they would like to go back to the way that was originally observed.

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I remember my dad telling me that was how the flag was saluted when he was a kid. As he put it, “Yeah, we dropped that not long after that guy with the Charlie Chaplin mustache ended up calling the shots in Europe.”

Back later….off to work!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:06:53pm

Capital Public Radio (Sacramento) has a 30 minute clip, with interviews from two women, of the pervasive culture of sexual harassment at the California state capitol.

capradio.org

Almost 150 women including state lawmakers, political consultants and lobbyists signed a letter calling out a pervasive culture of sexual harassment at the State Capitol. Several of the women have detailed experiences of sexual assault and demanding of sexual favors for advancement in their career. Adama Iwu constructed the letter and Pamela Lopez is one of the signees sharing their stories. They both join Insight to explain why this conversation is so critical now.

More than 140 women in California politics signed a letter calling out systemic harassment at the Capitol. But very few women have filed formal complaints. They say they can’t trust the internal review system.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:21:50pm
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freetoken  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:22:46pm

One of the miscellaneous sad things about a Trump presidency is that his likeness, and Melania’s, will someday end up on coins.

E.g.:
en.wikipedia.org

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:25:30pm

re: #177 freetoken

One of the miscellaneous sad things about a Trump presidency is that his likeness, and Melania’s, will someday end up on coins.

E.g.:
en.wikipedia.org

Spitcoin currency.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:26:13pm

re: #177 freetoken

Hammer time.

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Brian J.  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:26:48pm

re: #41 goddamnedfrank

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Kelly revealed himself to be an absolute monster today, a more than willing enabler complicit in the worst abuses of this Administration. Anybody hoping he’d be the adult in the room got a bucket full of ice cold water tossed on that sad delusion.

It’s inevitable that every Trump has his Wilhelm Keitel. May he meet the same end.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:30:37pm

John Kelly reminds me of Graham Martin, the last US ambassador to South Vietnam. Martin lost his foster son in the War in 1965 but that event only seemed to harden his support for the failed war and fueled his malignant denial of facts that cost so many lives when he steadfastly refused to to prepare for evacuation as the NVA victory became apparent in 1975. I feel like Kelly has psychologically dug in similarly, that his grief turned toxic and has caused him to abandon introspection and dedicate himself to the very cribbed reactionary thinking that sent his son off to die in a war that should never have been fought.

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Brian J.  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:30:42pm

re: #166 Belafon

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We had one available, but women aren’t allowed to be Paladins, especially when they’re not doctrinaire Communists, I mean BernieBros.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:31:29pm
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TedStriker  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:34:44pm

re: #183 Dave In Austin

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Heh…

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freetoken  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:39:34pm

re: #179 jaunte

Frankly, I don’t think I’ve ever handled one of the Presidential dollars. Even the Sac dollars I’ve only come across at the Post Office.

Americans love their paper.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:41:39pm

re: #185 freetoken

If I ever see a Trump coinage I’m going to order some special jewelers punches and go to work.

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Brian J.  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:42:24pm

re: #177 freetoken

One of the miscellaneous sad things about a Trump presidency is that his likeness, and Melania’s, will someday end up on coins.

E.g.:
en.wikipedia.org

Technically, that program is over barring another act of Congress, meaning that the living Presidents (Carter, Bush pere, Clinton, Obama) will not be so honored. The missing names in that list will either receive the praise of a totalitarian society or eternal damnatio memoriae.

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:44:32pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:44:59pm

John Kelly is still being a dick to Rep. Wilson:

In 2015, Wilson won praise from Miami Republicans for sponsoring the bill to name the long anticipated federal building after two [FBI] agents who became legends in local law enforcement.

At the dedication ceremony, James Comey, then director of the FBI, lauded Wilson’s legislation, which was signed into law by President Barack Obama three days before the April 2015 ceremony.

“Rep. Wilson truly did the impossible, and we are eternally grateful,” Comey said in his remarks.

Kelly tapped into his personal experience as the former head of the U.S. Southern Command headquarters in Doral, a position that often had him representing the Defense Department in local events. That included the dedication of the FBI regional building in Miramar, when he said Wilson’s remarks were jarring and self-serving.

“A congresswoman stood up, and in a long tradition of empty barrels making the most noise, stood up there in all of that and talked about how she was instrumental in getting the funding for that building, and how she took care of her constituents because she got the money, and she just called up President Obama, and on that phone call, he gave the money, the $20 million, to build the building, and she sat down,” Kelly told reporters.

miamiherald.com

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VegasGolfer  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:46:15pm

Paging Dodgers1988. Only 4 more wins to end the drought.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:48:37pm

re: #186 jaunte

If I ever see a Trump coinage I’m going to order some special jewelers punches and go to work.

Strictly speaking, it is against the law to deface coins, but not currency.

A drill press would work too, though.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:50:44pm

re: #190 VegasGolfer

Paging Dodgers1988. Only 4 more wins to end the drought.

My wife is heartbroken her Cubs did not go back to back.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:51:12pm
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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:52:57pm

Just saw the Maddow replay. The Chad-Niger segment was excellent.

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VegasGolfer  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:53:04pm

re: #192 Anymouse 🌹

They had a good 3 year run, and will be good for the foreseeable future. I have many friends who are Cubs fans that are going to root for the Dodgers, there’s plenty of room on the bandwagon 😎

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:54:54pm

In the interest of making his Muslim ban look like something other than a Muslim ban, you may recall that Donald Trump added Chad and Venezuela to the list.

Maddow connects the dots on how Trump adding Chad to his travel ban may have gotten soldiers killed in Niger (goes to Raw Story, more at the link):

When President Donald Trump’s White House instituted the travel ban and randomly added the African country of Chad to the list, MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow says it may have destabilized the region. That lack of allied troops could have then been the cause of the deaths of the four soldiers killed two weeks ago in Niger.

Maddow began by walking through the extensive history of the groups of African and French fighters who have managed to battle Islamic extremists like ISIS and Boko Haram in central Africa and actually win. Most of these groups are headquartered in Chad, because the best of the best soldiers managed to run out the majority of the terrorist groups.

Yet, somehow, Chad ended up on Trump’s travel ban list. When it did, there was an uproar of foreign policy experts who warned this was a terrible decision because it would destabilize the region and isolate American troops fighting there. Both the State and Defense Departments were also opposed to Trump’s decision to put Chad on the list, because they knew it would cause military problems in the area. But the Trump administration demanded it.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:57:03pm

i wonder just how far the gop is gonna get w this story about how a massive cut in the corporate rate will - by way of a mechanism closely resembling a rube goldberg machine - result in an increase of $4000/yr in the income of an ordinary american family

i guess their fans have swallowed more implausible lies in the past…

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:58:33pm

re: #188 teleskiguy

Might not be that bad.maybe someone just hedging their bet.
Since the Scooby gang has only ever encountered fake supernatural events, it would make sense to have the Ghostbusters as backup. Just in case there are real, for once, ghosts/ghouls/monsters and such

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2017 • 9:59:41pm

re: #198 FormerDirtDart

That’s a very good point.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:00:15pm

…but massive cuts to medicare??

now they are really playing with fire

hollow eyed granny starver strikes again!

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:00:41pm

Disaster capitalism.

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petesh  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:03:56pm

re: #127 Anymouse 🌹

I’ve been after everyone I know (and a couple people here) who claimed that Kelly would somehow be a moderating influence on Trump.

Regardless of what Kelly thinks, he knew what Donald Trump was when he signed on to his staff as the shortest DHS Chief in history then Chief-of-Staff. His honour and integrity went out the window the second he said, “Yes sir, Mr. Trump.”

I’ll fess up. I overestimated the asshole. Yesterday I had to take time out because I started crying at Trump’s grotesque inhumanity. (Incidentally, at least two other members of the local People’s Democratic Club — the lefty Dems round here — had the same reaction, which kinda made me feel better.) Today, I’m not crying and I’m not incapacitated, but General Kelly is on my permanent shit list. He can go down with the big whale. Presumably we can’t get him on any of the election interference, so it’s basically down to making sure that his reputation is permanently ruined.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:07:31pm

here is a truly pitiful imitation of a progressive, performed for me by someone who at the same time wonders what i could possibly have against trump’s voter fraud investigation:

I am for no globalist policy, and maximum income, a guaranteed annual income, guaranteed housing, guaranteed gainful employment, guaranteed healthcare, a wealth tax, antitrust enforcement, reduced population, publicly funded elections, and many other things which would be good for Citizens.

You are for kowtowing to the Oligarchs Democrat Republican duopoly.

I make you look like and corporatist right wing hack, and that is what you are.

but also

Blah blah blah. If the investigation is bad it will come out in the findings and data which will be released.

You just parrot a Democrat talking point because you are afraid of what may be found.
I am never against studies of issues and remain neutral on the studies until findings of a study.

You prefer no study so you can keep blathering your partisan propaganda.

“democrat talking point” - sure, that’s how all the bernie supporters talk…

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:08:07pm

Spit.

Appellate Court issues a stay from the lower court decision on the undocumented teen held by ICE seeking an abortion.

The court allowed the government to insert Christian theology into its assertions why she should not be allowed to obtain an abortion.

One day after a federal judge ordered the Trump administration to allow a teenage immigrant in the country without authorization to have an abortion in Texas, an appeals court temporarily blocked the order and set oral arguments for Friday morning on whether to allow the procedure to occur.

The order by the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia still allowed the 17-year-old to receive abortion counseling and a sonogram — required first steps for an abortion in Texas — but blocked the lower court’s order requiring officials to let the teen receive an abortion Friday or Saturday.

An emergency appeal by Eric Hargan, acting secretary of the Health and Human Services Department, argued that the teenager is in the agency’s custody and is therefore subject to its policy of refusing to facilitate abortions.

… and …

But in his appeal, Hargan argued that the U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly recognized that the government has a “legitimate interest in promoting childbirth and protecting the life of an unborn child.”

Policies that encourage childbirth over abortion do not place an improper burden on Doe, Hargan added, because she has two avenues for leaving federal custody — voluntarily returning to her country, or finding a relative or other suitable sponsor to take temporary custody of her.

More at the Austin Statesman: statesman.com

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:08:26pm

Bringing forth the past that both General Kelly & Rep. Wilson lived thru. Well done Lawrence.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:10:10pm

re: #199 teleskiguy

That’s a very good point.

Someone had the same thought earlier.

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Kragar  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:10:30pm

re: #188 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:13:24pm

There’s a dude in town with a late 80s era ChevyVan painted up as The Mystery Machine. I see that darn van almost daily!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:13:38pm

re: #202 petesh

I’ll fess up. I overestimated the asshole. Yesterday I had to take time out because I started crying at Trump’s grotesque inhumanity.

Yesterday after I finished with calling down every curse I could think of for conservatives foisting off this Dumpster fire of an administration on us, I took to the telephone to talk to a local Vietnam Vet (he is aware of both my parents serving during Vietnam and my father dying there), followed by an exquisite rant skewering the GOP on a certain Iowa-Nebraska E-mail list I am on.

I then wrote an E-mail (uselessly, because I never even get automated responses) to my representative, Adrian (I only represent Republicans, and no one has a right to eat in America) Smith (R-NE3).

Today I am furious, but better focused.

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:18:37pm

Dude is 49 years old.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:19:06pm

re: #208 teleskiguy

There’s a dude in town with a late 80s era ChevyVan painted up as The Mystery Machine. I see that darn van almost daily!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:20:52pm

Thread (fourteen tweets):

followed by

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:23:59pm

Hashtag KellyBlueFalcon trending up Twitter.
twitter.com

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:29:52pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:31:36pm

Maggie Haberman is just making it up as she goes along now. I can’t imagine even the most conservative Democrat supporting that.

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:35:39pm

re: #215 Anymouse 🌹

Stenographer needs that hot access pumped into her veins so she doesn’t have to do the real work called for by the media, especially in these times.

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:36:56pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:37:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:37:42pm

re: #217 JordanRules

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Jeezus.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:39:05pm

re: #216 JordanRules

Stenographer needs that hot access pumped into her veins so she doesn’t have to do the real work called for by the media, especially in these times.

And the 2017 Judith Miller award for journalistic propaganda goes to … the envelope please… .

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:41:05pm

re: #219 HappyWarrior

Jeezus.

Precisely. Christians have been after the Griswold decision ever since it was handed down.

Of course, they could have what they want, if women married to Republicans give them the Lysistrata treatment.

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petesh  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:44:30pm

re: #209 Anymouse 🌹

Today I am furious, but better focused.

Sometimes we need a catharsis. Furious & focused is good!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:44:34pm

re: #221 Anymouse 🌹

Precisely. Christians have been after the Griswold decision ever since it was handed down.

Of course, they could have what they want, if women married to Republicans give them the Lysistrata treatment.

Yep. It’s not just Roe but Griswold and Eisenstedt, legalized contraception for unmarried couples.

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petesh  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:46:02pm

re: #223 HappyWarrior

Yep. It’s not just Roe but Griswold and Eisenstedt, legalized contraception for unmarried couples.

JFC, we used to laugh about Griswold when i was in college, in England in the late ’60s.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:46:49pm

re: #223 HappyWarrior

Yep. It’s not just Roe but Griswold and Eisenstedt, legalized contraception for unmarried couples.

You can’t go back to the XIV Century without breaking fertilising a few eggs… .

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:48:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:48:07pm

re: #224 petesh

JFC, we used to laugh about Griswold when i was in college, in England in the late ’60s.

It’s evidence that the right regressed too.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:53:00pm
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Kragar  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:56:16pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 10:58:11pm

Veterans are swarming that hashtag in disgust at Kelly’s apologetics for Trump.

Sadly, when he joined the maladministration, that told me exactly what to expect from him.

If reading Marine veteran comments on that hashtag is a general sentiment, it would appear that they want to drum him out of the camaraderie Corps on a rail.

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petesh  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:00:33pm

re: #227 HappyWarrior

It’s evidence that the right regressed too.

Too? I gotta say that, petty, vindictive and regressive as many leftists &/or Democrats are, they are all amazingly more progressive on matters of gender than most of us were, back when Kate Millett and Robin Morgan and others had to point out the obvious. Better on race, by and large (but not as much as they think); and at least they know trans people exist. The right, however, used to have some moderates, and they’ve about gone extinct.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:01:54pm

In case anyone forgot, John Kelly made a “joke” about using a Coast Guard sword on the press… .
washingtonpost.com (with video)

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:02:16pm

I’m really finding it instructive that General Kelly was given such a benefit of the doubt regarding his character and intentions within this regime.

The deep military service is definitely a dynamic that many of us at least initially defer to, but after that you get to the core of where he derives his auto-respect and lack of unbiased scrutiny from. This is something I see everywhere. Put on a suit, be the right demo and run with the open lanes and power handouts provided to you. It informs so much.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:02:31pm

re: #231 petesh

Too? I gotta say that, petty, vindictive and regressive as many leftists &/or Democrats are, they are all amazingly more progressive on matters of gender than most of us were, back when Kate Millett and Robin Morgan and others had to point out the obvious. Better on race, by and large (but not as much as they think); and at least they know trans people exist. The right, however, used to have some moderates, and they’ve about gone extinct.

Regressed in the sense that many conservative Republicans supported easy access to contraception in the 60’s.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:04:43pm

re: #233 JordanRules

I’m really finding it instructive that General Kelly was given such a benefit of the doubt regarding his character and intentions within this regime.

The deep military service is definitely a dynamic that many of us at least initially defer to, but after that you get to the core of where he derives his auto-respect and lack of unbiased scrutiny from. This is something I see everywhere. Put on a suit, be the right demo and run with the open lanes and power handouts provided to you. It informs so much.

We have to remember while there have been generals like General Marshall, there have even those like MacArthur and who were power hungry.

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:05:48pm

re: #205 JordanRules

Goddamn. This should go on the front page of LGF soon.

Iframe

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:07:00pm

re: #232 Anymouse 🌹

In case anyone forgot, John Kelly made a “joke” about using a Coast Guard sword on the press… .
washingtonpost.com (with video)

Yep. I had forgotten about that but in hindsight, it’s a good illustration of what kind of man he is. I’m glad he’s getting backlash from vets. He deserves it.

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petesh  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:07:51pm

re: #234 HappyWarrior

Regressed in the sense that many conservative Republicans supported easy access to contraception in the 60’s.

Sure those weren’t the moderates? Lindsay, Rockefeller, even Eisenhower

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:08:32pm

re: #238 petesh

Sure those weren’t the moderates? Lindsay, Rockefeller, even Eisenhower

No Goldwater and H.W. Bush supported planned parenthood.

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:08:35pm

re: #235 HappyWarrior

Oh yeah, but for me Kelly is indicative of how folks that look like him can float within and without the military. Never a bad mugshot. Always the best assumed and projected.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:09:55pm

re: #240 JordanRules

Oh yeah, but for me Kelly is indicative of how folks that look like him can float within and without the military. Never a bad mugshot. Always the best assumed and projected.

Right. I think the same is assumed about Mattis and McMaster.

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:11:02pm

re: #241 HappyWarrior

For sure! And this blind spot leaves us extremely vulnerable.

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:13:11pm

re: #236 teleskiguy

Yo!!!!! It was sooooo good. He nailed it and it was personal with that common upbringing with General Kelly. Whew.

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petesh  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:13:52pm

re: #239 HappyWarrior

No Goldwater and H.W. Bush supported planned parenthood.

HW always was a swish (no he wasn’t, heck, he really was a fighter pilot), and Goldwater was human compared with the current mob. I get your point, you’re right; except insofar as there always was a moralistic component, now ascendant. Bastards. I’m off to bed …

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:14:13pm

re: #242 JordanRules

For sure! And this blind spot leaves us extremely vulnerable.

I think we should be skeptical of anyone who chooses to work for this administration.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:15:00pm

re: #244 petesh

HW always was a swish (no he wasn’t, heck, he really was a fighter pilot), and Goldwater was human compared with the current mob. I get your point, you’re right; except insofar as there always was a moralistic component, now ascendant. Bastards. I’m off to bed …

Oh absolutely. You’re right. HW was a moderate in those days.

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petesh  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:15:12pm

re: #245 HappyWarrior

I think we should be skeptical of anyone who chooses to work for this administration.

YES! Especially any new hires.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:25:33pm

re: #236 teleskiguy

For some reason I have never been able to play MSNBC videos on my computer. There is something about MSNBC (or my Internet provider) that prohibits them playing.

Usually Lawrence O’Donnell clips get uploaded to YouTube in about three days after they appear on the show; perhaps I will be able to watch it there.

I imagine it was a righteous rant though.

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:27:01pm

re: #248 Anymouse 🌹

I imagine it was a righteous rant though.

His best. 20 minutes of razor sharp cutting bloody commentary.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:29:04pm

re: #239 HappyWarrior

No Goldwater and H.W. Bush supported planned parenthood.

i was watching the movie “cheaper by the dozen” - the 1950 version, not the more recent and completely different movie by the same name - which is set in the 1920s

the family is visited by a representative of planned parenthood, who is treated with respect

showing that once upon a time, even in the conformist 1950s, a visit by planned parenthood to a rather respectable family portrayed in a hollywood movie was uncontroversial

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:37:29pm

re: #250 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i was watching the movie “cheaper by the dozen” - the 1950 version, not the more recent and completely different movie by the same name - which is set in the 1920s

the family is visited by a representative of planned parenthood, who is treated with respect

showing that once upon a time, even in the conformist 1950s, a visit by planned parenthood to a rather respectable family portrayed in a hollywood movie was uncontroversial

It’s crazy to think. And remember the RR actually supported the Roe decision originally before they knew they could exploit it for votes.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:38:01pm

re: #249 teleskiguy

His best. 20 minutes of razor sharp cutting bloody commentary.

Just watched it. Excellent work by Lawrence.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:42:40pm

I feel for Kelly losing his son but he had no right to attack Congresswoman Wilson. He has a problem with her listening? Well sir, she has a very personal relationship with the family of Sgt Johnson. And he lied about her remarks in Miami too which are completely unrelated and his attack on the Khans too. So shame on you General Kelly. You chose to work for a President who said he liked service members who weren’t captured. A man who belittled our military throughout his campaign. A man who has likened his womanizing to what the Vietnam War was for thousands of Americans. This is who you chose to work for.

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:46:49pm

re: #248 Anymouse 🌹

For some reason I have never been able to play MSNBC videos on my computer. There is something about MSNBC (or my Internet provider) that prohibits them playing.

Usually Lawrence O’Donnell clips get uploaded to YouTube in about three days after they appear on the show; perhaps I will be able to watch it there.

I imagine it was a righteous rant though.

Their videos/live broadcasts don’t work for me either. I also deleted their bookmark because their page format sucked, probably still sucks.

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:49:47pm

Well alright now! LAPD joins NYPD and City of London Police.

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:51:09pm

re: #255 JordanRules

Does Interpol investigate sexual assault?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:53:42pm

re: #239 HappyWarrior

No Goldwater and H.W. Bush supported planned parenthood.

Barry Goldwater’s wife was the president of Planned Parenthood of Phoenix.

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JordanRules  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:54:25pm

re: #256 teleskiguy

Not sure, I ran with the locals but heck, they may and may they join!

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2017 • 11:55:05pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:16:01am
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Single-handed sailor  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:18:37am

The rain that just blasted through the SF bay area should have kicked ass on the fires north of here.

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JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:20:50am
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JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:22:09am

re: #261 Single-handed sailor

Excellent!!

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:27:10am

It is also our first rain of the year here (season starts July 1st). 0.18” so far.

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JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:10:46am
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:15:07am

re: #67 Barefoot Grin

Rachel making the case that the thoughtless inclusion of Chad—ally in fight against Islamist terror in the region—pulled out of Niger after travel ban announcement. You can guess the rest. Interesting. Correlation/causation, etc. But Maddow is also saying, ‘hey, maybe this is why he went silent…’

Chad is included in the travel ban because it ran out of passport paper. That’s a real threat to US national security!/

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Alyosha  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:26:15am

Who thought Flynn might prove to be the smarter of the Trump generals? At least that dude knows when to zip his lips.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:31:49am

re: #265 JordanRules

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I cannot.  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:38:13am

Holy shit.

I’m just sitting in my chair and I checked my heart rate.

111 BPM.

This is not good.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:42:15am

Conservatives are starting to swarm the KellyBlueFalcon hashtag at Twitter to attack Gold Star families and veterans expressing outrage at Kelly and Trump tonight.

(I finally got the MSNBC clip to play, and the one that came after from the mother and father whose son was killed in Syria. I am in tears. Even if Trump had empathy, he could not possibly understand the pain of that mother, but I can. This whole maladministration is reprehensible and disgusts me.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:47:10am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:58:08am
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LastYearsMan  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:13:22am

As a non-American, I’m willing to give Kelly a pass for being a RWNJ and enabler of all sorts of horrid shit if he’s helping to prevent nuclear war. Which, from all reports, sounds like he’s doing.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:30:54am

re: #273 LastYearsMan

As a non-American, I’m willing to give Kelly a pass for being a RWNJ and enabler of all sorts of horrid shit if he’s helping to prevent nuclear war. Which, from all reports, sounds like he’s doing.

No pass. When he and Trump were at the Coast Guard Academy, where Trump was presented a sword, Kelly offered to slay the press for Trump.

That is entirely opposite the affirmation I made in the Navy, which is to uphold the Constitution (that includes freedom of the press).

He lied about Rep. Wilson’s support of both the FBI and veterans.

He used racist Jim Crow (southern apartheid) terminology to demean three African-American.women in a wingnut trifecta.

He went in knowing who Trump was (having already attacked another Gold Star family on the campaign trail, and attacking the character of John McCain’s capture and torture in North Vietnam).

He volunteered for this.

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freetoken  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:31:40am

Should have been our first clue about Kelly: Trump picked him.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:40:36am

FOX spokesliar weighs in on John Kelly:

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:04:23am

I’m going to bed … catch y’all later.

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Ghost of the Mare Island Mud Puppy  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:11:07am

re: #259 teleskiguy

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Noticed that he doesn’t refer to tRump as President. He saves that honorific for Pres. Obama.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:13:31am
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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:51:18am
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fern01  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:23:22am

re: #278 Ghost of the Mare Island Mud Puppy

Noticed that he doesn’t refer to tRump as President. He saves that honorific for Pres. Obama.

He used President the first time he mentioned trump - thereafter Mr - which is what the nyt decided to do (I think during the years of President Obama). Interestingly he repeated President when speaking of the latter.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:37:13am

This meme is becoming popular on Twitter. I don’t like it, because the mind “sees” the N-bomb.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:40:42am

Anyone who makes fun of Frederica Wilson’s hat but not Donald Trump’s ducktail should just shut up forever.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:53:31am
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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:58:46am

re: #283 The Vicious Babushka

The hat matches her jacket, but as my mother would say, “it’s tacky” (in a Brooklyn accent).

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:27:19am

re: #283 The Vicious Babushka

Anyone who makes fun of Frederica Wilson’s hat but not Donald Trump’s ducktail should just shut up forever.

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Her hats certainly aren’t my style but her wardrobe choices don’t make her words any less true.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:27:26am

re: #261 Single-handed sailor

The rain that just blasted through the SF bay area should have kicked ass on the fires north of here.

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I woke up at 4AM because I thought I heard rain here in Los Angeles and by golly it was raining heavy!

Never mind that the Weather Channel is showing 0% chance of showers today…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:30:27am

re: #266 Big Beautiful Door

Chad is included in the travel ban because it ran out of passport paper. That’s a real threat to US national security!/

I wouldn’t be surprised to find out L’il Bedsheet Wearing Stevie Miller was involved with this…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:33:14am

re: #270 Anymouse 🌹

Conservatives are starting to swarm the KellyBlueFalcon hashtag at Twitter to attack Gold Star families and veterans expressing outrage at Kelly and Trump tonight.

(I finally got the MSNBC clip to play, and the one that came after from the mother and father whose son was killed in Syria. I am in tears. Even if Trump had empathy, he could not possibly understand the pain of that mother, but I can. This whole maladministration is reprehensible and disgusts me.)

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:37:54am

Re Kelly’s speech

Anyone have an idea how often/regular it is for the chief of staff to make a speech?

A speech like that..at a podium at the white house

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:44:49am

New Battle of the Alamo is brewing over Texas shrine revamp.

The project has raised the ire of some conservatives, who worry that the Battle of the Alamo will be sanitized by “political correctness” at a time when Confederate monuments are being removed across the country. Even though the Alamo battle was well before the Civil War, some of the participants were slaveholders.

Pee Wee -The Alamo

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:46:15am

re: #291 Shropshire Slasher

Couldn’t decide which clip to use so,

The Stars at Night are Big and Bright Deep in the Heart of Texas

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:49:20am

Morning everyone.

I’d like to add some perspective to what has happened over the course of the last couple of days with the unholy response to the death of Sgt. La David Johnson.

I attended the US Military Academy briefly(I’m considered a Veteran by law-with an honorable discharge from the US Army, though I usually don’t refer to myself as a Veteran), my Father is a Veteran, my Uncle is a Veteran-he nearly died in Vietnam and still suffers from the affect of poisoning-likely Agent Orange. Other relatives fought in Korea, WWII, WWI, ect. One of the things my family going back had to deal with is very obvious to anyone who understands history. Black men who served honorably and contributed to US Military success around the world, were discriminated against, beaten, humiliated, and lived under the boot of white supremacy as a reward for their service. Not only did they suffer, but these circumstances caused suffering in many ways for our family.

Family is important to many people. It traditionally has held a great importance to members of Black America.(I’ll post my Ancestry stuff here in a bit. It has been a gift seeing what the community here has shared) And as what was posted above:
re: #214 JordanRules
the concept of the “Black Family” is distorted through the eyes of white privilege as to what is normal or not normal. Rep. Wilson is just as much a part of Sgt. Johnson’s family as any other blood relative. When Trump/Kelly said what they said, it was an insult to Rep. Wilson and her family-Including La David and Myesha Johnson.
This attack hit me as well. This wasn’t just about Rep. Wilson. Kelly attacked the Black Family. This was a white supremacist attack on the Black Family. Those attacks feel like what my older relatives described- how they felt coming back home to live under Jim Crow, after fighting fascists around the world.

Don’t know if that conveyed super clear, apologize if it didn’t. Yesterday kinda upset me a bit.

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(Bert the Turtle)  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:50:37am
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jeffreyw  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:02:58am

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Good morning!

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:04:12am

re: #274 Anymouse 🌹

No pass…

He volunteered for this.

You mean he knew what he signed up for?

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:06:26am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:07:42am

re: #283 The Vicious Babushka

Anyone who makes fun of Frederica Wilson’s hat but not Donald Trump’s ducktail should just shut up forever.

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They had no problem with Trump wearing MAGA hats or Clarke. At least Wilson’s hat has a real meaning rather than being a prop.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:09:05am

re: #283 The Vicious Babushka

Anyone who makes fun of Frederica Wilson’s hat but not Donald Trump’s ducktail should just shut up forever.

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Congresswoman, whatever her name is that wears the hat - she’s a bozo. Stop it. End it

Bella Abzug.

‘nuff said

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:09:28am

re: #297 The Vicious Babushka

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This is Shirley Sherrod all over again. Man the right is in full attack mode against Rep Wilson. This is pathetic.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:09:42am

re: #298 HappyWarrior

They had no problem with Trump wearing MAGA hats or Clarke. At least Wilson’s hat has a real meaning rather than being a prop.

Wilson’s hat is far less “wacky” than Trump’s gold ducktail and orange face.

Anyway all of this is a distraction to avoid Trump’s habitual disrespect of Gold Star families.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:12:22am

re: #301 The Vicious Babushka

Wilson’s hat is far less “wacky” than Trump’s gold ducktail and orange face.

Anyway all of this is a distraction to avoid Trump’s habitual disrespect of Gold Star families.

It certainly is. And of course FNC is leading the attack.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:13:17am

re: #295 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

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It’s not nice to fool mother nature

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Decatur Deb  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:13:23am

Off for a few days. Y’all get all this resolved before I return.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:13:30am

re: #299 dangerman

Bella Abzug.

‘nuff said

Sorry I’m working on a phone keypad…

Often recognized by these vibrant hats, Bella reminded all who admired them: “It’s what’s under the hat that counts!” (Wikipedia)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:16:05am

You know the hat for the grandmother is a beautiful tribute. My dad’s father sometimes wore Irish flat caps. He died in 1979. 8 years before my birth. I’ve worn one before with him in mind. But anyhow this is just a distraction from Kelly and Trump attacking graceless.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:18:19am

re: #300 HappyWarrior

This is Shirley Sherrod all over again. Man the right is in full attack mode against Rep Wilson. This is pathetic.

The right enjoys attacking African American females….enjoys it.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:19:01am

re: #304 Decatur Deb

Off for a few days. Y’all get all this resolved before I return.

We’ll get Jared to straighten all this out…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:20:39am

re: #307 b.d. (bill d.)

The right enjoys attacking African American females….enjoys it.

Yep.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:22:59am

talkingpointsmemo.com

Have to admit I thought about this too given there are stories of Trump calling and being more cordial to white GS families.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:24:08am

re: #293 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Morning everyone.

I’d like to add some perspective to what has happened over the course of the last couple of days with the unholy response to the death of Sgt. La David Johnson.

I attended the US Military Academy briefly(I’m considered a Veteran by law-with an honorable discharge from the US Army, though I usually don’t refer to myself as a Veteran), my Father is a Veteran, my Uncle is a Veteran-he nearly died in Vietnam and still suffers from the affect of poisoning-likely Agent Orange. Other relatives fought in Korea, WWII, WWI, ect. One of the things my family going back had to deal with is very obvious to anyone who understands history. Black men who served honorably and contributed to US Military success around the world, were discriminated against, beaten, humiliated, and lived under the boot of white supremacy as a reward for their service. Not only did they suffer, but these circumstances caused suffering in many ways for our family.

Family is important to many people. It traditionally has held a great importance to members of Black America.(I’ll post my Ancestry stuff here in a bit. It has been a gift seeing what the community here has shared) And as what was posted above:

the concept of the “Black Family” is distorted through the eyes of white privilege as to what is normal or not normal. Rep. Wilson is just as much a part of Sgt. Johnson’s family as any other blood relative. When Trump/Kelly said what they said, it was an insult to Rep. Wilson and her family-Including La David and Myesha Johnson.
This attack hit me as well. This wasn’t just about Rep. Wilson. Kelly attacked the Black Family. This was a white supremacist attack on the Black Family. Those attacks feel like what my older relatives described- how they felt coming back home to live under Jim Crow, after fighting fascists around the world.

Don’t know if that conveyed super clear, apologize if it didn’t. Yesterday kinda upset me a bit.

Beautifully said.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:27:11am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:30:26am

re: #312 The Vicious Babushka

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I’m genuinely worried about the future of the right. This stuff isn’t going to die with Trump.

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ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:38:58am

re: #282 The Vicious Babushka

This meme is becoming popular on Twitter. I don’t like it, because the mind “sees” the N-bomb.

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I am hoping this Niger thing blows up in Trump’s face due to his mishandling of it all.

I think it would just be justice that the word Niger is associated with him and (hopefully) his downfall and it makes it into the history books forever.

I can hear him in eternity screaming that he had nothing to do with those people.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:39:05am

re: #312 The Vicious Babushka

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I’m not surprised at all…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:42:06am

re: #315 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m not surprised at all…

Neither am I. They claim kneeling disrespects the flag. Yet they’re Nazi apologists.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:48:44am

re: #283 The Vicious Babushka

.@JudgeJeanine on @RepWilson: “That woman, that Congresswoman, whatever her name is that wears the hat - she’s a bozo. Stop it. End it.” — Fox News

Judge Jean must have missed the bling wearing Sheriff David Clarke and the legions of other bozos at the RNC.

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Citizen K  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:51:45am

re: #312 The Vicious Babushka

re: #315 Joe Bacon 🌹

re: #316 HappyWarrior

It’s the same thing with the folks to proclaim exclusive rights to the very concept of patriotism and yet seem to venerate the Confederate flag over the US flag instead. We’ve managed to become a country where the concept of patriotism has been co-opted by those whose allegiance is to literal enemies of the Union instead. But of course, it’s the people who point this out or try to protest their own mistreatment that are somehow dragging down the ‘greatness’ of this country.

And yet again, we see how often those fucking people are given the immediate and almost infinite benefit of the doubt by the media, the most charitable impressions despite being attacked as literal ‘enemies of the people’ by the folks they run interference for…while the protesters and actual persecuted peoples are treated like sub-human animals and traitors for taking a knee, or daring to not treat Trump like a glowing god of all things American, or just fucking existing.

It’s just so goddamn exhausting to wake up to this shit every single fucking day and see it only get exponentially worse by the fucking hour.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:56:14am

re: #310 HappyWarrior

talkingpointsmemo.com

Have to admit I thought about this too given there are stories of Trump calling and being more cordial to white GS families.

You, I, and many others feel the same way. Combine this to what I posted earlier this morning. Even if the possible racial divisions we see are unintentional, rank and file white supremacist in this country see it as a signal of support.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:57:06am

We chose to accept Kelly because he seemed like someone who, even though we knew he was conservative, had lines he wouldn’t cross, that he knew when to stop. That was the bargain we thought we were getting into. Come to find out, though, he doesn’t. We expected a soldier to respect some things as a soldier. But he doesn’t, and he’s willing to use his position as a soldier to get what he wants, which is the last thing we want soldiers to do.

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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:00:09am

re: #280 Shropshire Slasher

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Great song, but geez. That was one really bad video.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:01:10am

re: #321 makeitstop

Went all the way to #2 today in 1972! Heard it on the way into work today.

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Citizen K  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:01:59am

re: #319 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

You, I, and many others feel the same way. Combine this to what I posted earlier this morning. Even if the possible racial divisions we see are unintentional, rank and file white supremacist in this country see it as a signal of support.

Even at most generous, it’s clear this administration is enabling and fostering white supremacists & white supremacist sentiment. And I’m not feeling generous at all lately.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:02:26am

re: #291 Shropshire Slasher

Sanitized, a word which, in this case, means revamped from the fiction of brave warriors who stood against Santa Ana to give Texas a chance to the less heroic story of a bunch of men who held an untenable position they were told to abandon.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:04:55am

re: #319 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

You, I, and many others feel the same way. Combine this to what I posted earlier this morning. Even if the possible racial divisions we see are unintentional, rank and file white supremacist in this country see it as a signal of support.

Yep Duke and Spencer feel as if Trump has their backs and he’s done nothing to dispel those motions.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:05:54am

re: #323 Citizen K

Even at most generous, it’s clear this administration is enabling and fostering white supremacists & white supremacist sentiment. And I’m not feeling generous at all lately.

Absolutely.

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JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:06:36am

re: #273 LastYearsMan

There really isn’t a lot of concrete reporting on him being some anti nuclear savior other than the recent story about “a GOP official imagining Kelly and Mattis discussed tackling 45”. Other than that, this great Democracy caretaker narrative has been projected onto all the Generals because they look the part. No evidence is required. They just get the best assumed about them and that blind spot provides comfort for some. Not me. Choosing to work for this regime should give us all pause.

And, there’s been reporting that suggests McMaster and Mattis are kinda bullish on war with North Korea.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:07:40am

re: #141 jaunte

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The stolen power of this government is killing people.

Where is this tea-bagger now?

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JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:11:44am
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:14:55am

HOW TERRIBLE IT IS THIS FANCY DRESSED BLACK WOMAN HURT TRUMP’S FEELINGS & MADE JOHN KELLY CRY!!!!!11!!!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:15:04am

re: #329 JordanRules

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It is. As I said last night, while there have been generals like George Marshall throughout our history. There have also been those like General MacArthur as well. Both fine generals but MacArthur was an egocentric maniac, while Marshall was a statesman who placed the interests of the country above his own. Mac was the opposite.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:16:11am

I think we thought that men like Kelly would be moderating influence because by having seen combat, they might have perspective on life in a way Trump lacks, especially Kelly whose son was killed in combat.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:16:23am

re: #330 The Vicious Babushka

HOW TERRIBLE IT IS THIS FANCY DRESSED BLACK WOMAN HURT TRUMP’S FEELINGS & MADE JOHN KELLY CRY!!!!!11!!!

“Take it like a man, General!” Or, is it “Fuck your feelings!”?

Edit: Or maybe it’s “Such emotional creatures shouldn’t be in power.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:18:15am

re: #330 The Vicious Babushka

HOW TERRIBLE IT IS THIS FANCY DRESSED BLACK WOMAN HURT TRUMP’S FEELINGS & MADE JOHN KELLY CRY!!!!!11!!!

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And how does Kelly think Wilson felt seeing how Sgt. Johnson’s family was treated by Trump. Kelly’s revealed himself to be a typical Trump lackey with this moment. Nothing he can do can rehabilitate his image in my eyes.

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JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:20:17am

re: #332 HappyWarrior

Good point.

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JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:21:00am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:21:43am

Kelly keeps on saying Wilson “listened” in. Trump called while she was with the family and the family put him on speaker. She didn’t interrupt him as he made his callous remarks. If Kelly’s got a problem with WIlson. He’s got a problem with the Johnsons too. They’re backing her up. She knew Sgt Johnson was more than just “your guy”. She knew the man, the individual that was lost in Niger. But you won’t hear that on FNC. You’ll just see a bunch of self-righteous assholes mocking a seventy five year old black woman for her choice of head gear.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:22:21am

“… A composite image commissioned by the BBC shows that an amalgamation of all the members of the House and Senate creates a white male with light eyes. …”

The average Democrat (l.) and the average Republican (r.)
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:25:24am

re: #338 FormerDirtDart

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I’d like to Senator Sanders tell that young Latina woman that diversity isn’t important.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:25:55am

re: #316 HappyWarrior

Neither am I. They claim kneeling disrespects the flag. Yet they’re Nazi apologists.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:26:43am
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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:27:14am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:27:39am

re: #340 Eclectic Cyborg

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There’s that too and man you have no idea how much it galls me as a great great grandson of an Army of Potomac veteran to see the people who defend that flag make out people who express their free speech out to hate the country. I have no problem with someone owning that flag but at the same time, that flag was for a treasonous bunch that killed thousands of Americans and then was used to justify white supremacy.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:28:38am

re: #342 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

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Agreed. Have you read about Chris Long? He’s a good example. Never will be a Raiders fan but if Howie had any shape of why Chris is the socially conscious man that he is, good on Howie.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:29:06am

re: #341 The Vicious Babushka

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It’s too soon. // Sigh.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:31:24am

re: #344 HappyWarrior

Agreed. Have you read about Chris Long? He’s a good example. Never will be a Raiders fan but if Howie had any shape of why Chris is the socially conscious man that he is, good on Howie.

Yeah. Chris has done a lot that is underappreciated, and he has done it in a way that is conscious of his privilege. He has not made it about “him”.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:33:31am

re: #346 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Yeah. Chris has done a lot that is underappreciated, and he has done it in a way that is conscious of his privilege. He has not made it about “him”.

Just like Peter. I read about the treatment Peter got when he returned to Australia following his support for John Carlos and Tommy Smith and man that poor guy. Beautiful gesture that those two later were his pallbearers though. Brotherhood is a beautiful thing.

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CongoJack  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:33:41am

re: #341 The Vicious Babushka

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Well shit.

Better call the few friends that I still have on that campus to make sure they are OK. Graduated there in 2011/2012. Fort Collins has regressed a little the last few years sadly.

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CongoJack  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:38:00am

Im out. See ya’ll later.

Wife is being induced on Tuesday is the baby does not decide to come before then. More killings and the Kelly presser yesterday just is turning me sour and I cant/shouldn’t be sour. I’m going to have to turn this off for awhile.

Please keep democracy safe while I’m away.

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William Lewis  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:39:04am

re: #349 CongoJack

Im out. See ya’ll later.

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Please keep democracy safe while I’m away.

Take care of yourself and them. Her favorite flowers would be a good thing this morning, I’ll bet.

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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:39:37am

re: #349 CongoJack

Im out. See ya’ll later.

Please keep democracy safe while I’m away.

Yes, go concentrate on the good that is coming. We’ll keep an eye on things.

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(Bert the Turtle)  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:41:30am

re: #333 Belafon

“Take it like a man, General!” Or, is it “Fuck your feelings!”?

Edit: Or maybe it’s “Such emotional creatures shouldn’t be in power.”

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ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:45:02am

re: #293 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Morning everyone.

I’d like to add some perspective to what has happened over the course of the last couple of days with the unholy response to the death of Sgt. La David Johnson.

I attended the US Military Academy briefly(I’m considered a Veteran by law-with an honorable discharge from the US Army, though I usually don’t refer to myself as a Veteran), my Father is a Veteran, my Uncle is a Veteran-he nearly died in Vietnam and still suffers from the affect of poisoning-likely Agent Orange. Other relatives fought in Korea, WWII, WWI, ect. One of the things my family going back had to deal with is very obvious to anyone who understands history. Black men who served honorably and contributed to US Military success around the world, were discriminated against, beaten, humiliated, and lived under the boot of white supremacy as a reward for their service. Not only did they suffer, but these circumstances caused suffering in many ways for our family.

Family is important to many people. It traditionally has held a great importance to members of Black America.(I’ll post my Ancestry stuff here in a bit. It has been a gift seeing what the community here has shared) And as what was posted above:

the concept of the “Black Family” is distorted through the eyes of white privilege as to what is normal or not normal. Rep. Wilson is just as much a part of Sgt. Johnson’s family as any other blood relative. When Trump/Kelly said what they said, it was an insult to Rep. Wilson and her family-Including La David and Myesha Johnson.
This attack hit me as well. This wasn’t just about Rep. Wilson. Kelly attacked the Black Family. This was a white supremacist attack on the Black Family. Those attacks feel like what my older relatives described- how they felt coming back home to live under Jim Crow, after fighting fascists around the world.

Don’t know if that conveyed super clear, apologize if it didn’t. Yesterday kinda upset me a bit.

Nice post.

Having grow up around a lot of Black families and still living in an area with Black Families and having several Black business clients I think that bit I put in bold type is really an important part of this whole mess.

It is something many White people do not understand. Family has a different meaning in the community. If you are a help, a saving grace to someone Black you are automatically family. If you are down on your luck and a Black family takes you in and you are appreciative…you are family.

This whole thing just disgusts me. Kelly making it a thing was disgusting too. He gets outraged by the Congresswoman listening in. Well Mr. Marine tough guy, the Orange Bozo you are making excuses for got this whole ball rolling by lying about contacting the families.

It was a kid explaining his dog ate his homework thing. Trump at the time the question was asked didn’t have any letters written or calls made. He probably never even intended it.

But Trump can’t be caught being Donald Trump, he has to make up some BS and that started it all. Kelly should step the fuck off. He had no business getting involved in this to the extent he did.

So why did he? Well, I am considering he was more upset about the Black Congresswoman than anything regarding the family and or Trump. Kelly exposed his White ass…because he couldn’t have a Black woman putting his boy down.

There sure are a lot of bare White asses being exposed.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:47:13am

re: #353 ObserverArt

Yep and Kelly seems to want to ignore that. Family can mean much more than blood.

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JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:48:59am

Gross.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:49:37am

re: #293 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

What’s annoying about that is almost everyone has “family” they aren’t related to, no matter what their skin color is.

But this is an attack on a woman for opposing men, a minority for attacking a white, and a Senator for attacking the president.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:50:02am

re: #330 The Vicious Babushka

HOW TERRIBLE IT IS THIS FANCY DRESSED BLACK WOMAN HURT TRUMP’S FEELINGS & MADE JOHN KELLY CRY!!!!!11!!!

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:52:12am
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Citizen K  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:55:42am

re: #354 HappyWarrior

Yep and Kelly seems to want to ignore that. Family can mean much more than blood.

While I’m obvious not black (Filipino here), we have much the same concept of extended family, where close friends of the family are otherwise treated as familial as well. Several of my parents close friends and Filipino colleagues were treated as ‘Titos’ or ‘Titas’, uncles or aunts, to our family, with our blood uncles and aunts called ‘Uncle ___’ or ‘Aunt ____’ as a means of distinction. Though regardless, ‘Titos’ and ‘Titas’ were still uncles and aunts to us in all but blood.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:57:34am

He had to pay a 4K bond to initiate a hearing to get it back.

“I lost two years of warranty, I kept paying for my [loan] payments, my insurance, my license plate fees,” he said. Customs has also not yet returned the $4,000 bond.

USA USA USA

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:00:29am

re: #188 teleskiguy

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Jinkies, who ya gonna call?

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:04:14am

Well, it’s only a matter of time until he links this to his false statement

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JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:07:24am

re: #362 FormerDirtDart

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:09:51am
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:20:38am

“… Detectives seized 20 guns, more than 2,300 rounds of ammunition, 15 knives, a baseball bat with protruding nails and a crossbow while serving a warrant at Randall Drake’s home, where he lives with his parents. The items were found in a locked closet. …”

MRA?

“… “The daughters come, and I am ready,” read a handwritten note found in the Dunedin residence. “I have fed on my hatred for centuries. My fury at those who imprisoned me shall be vast and without mercy. I shall have my bloody revenge, and then the WORLD WILL BURN BURN.” …”

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ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:23:47am

When NBC first started to use Nicole Wallace I was suspicious she would just be another GOP mouthpiece. I will gladly give her credit in that she may be one of the better people on TV speaking about the Republicans and conservatives.

She was on the Today show this morning talking about this Trump mess over contacting the Johnson family. She nails the main point…Trump did this to himself and Kelly has to cover for him. Col. Jack Jacobs gets in a good point that all Kelly can do is control what goes into Trump, not what comes out.

General Kelly should take the advice and realize all he is doing is acting as the poor guy that follows the circus elephant with the big dust pan and broom cleaning up after the beast he is following.

All he did yesterday was reach into the dust pan and fling some shit at all of us. He doesn’t realize how much he got stuck to him now and how much it stinks.

Here are Nicole’s comments from this morning.

Iframe

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:25:04am

re: #365 FormerDirtDart

He’s even got a Santa hat.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:29:32am

re: #359 Citizen K

While I’m obvious not black (Filipino here), we have much the same concept of extended family, where close friends of the family are otherwise treated as familial as well. Several of my parents close friends and Filipino colleagues were treated as ‘Titos’ or ‘Titas’, uncles or aunts, to our family, with our blood uncles and aunts called ‘Uncle ___’ or ‘Aunt ____’ as a means of distinction. Though regardless, ‘Titos’ and ‘Titas’ were still uncles and aunts to us in all but blood.

I’m white but a friend of my dad who actually introduced my parents is like that. And his brother sees my dad as another older brother.

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I cannot.  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:31:06am

re: #365 FormerDirtDart

“… “The daughters come, and I am ready,” read a handwritten note found in the Dunedin residence. “I have fed on my hatred for centuries. My fury at those who imprisoned me shall be vast and without mercy. I shall have my bloody revenge, and then the WORLD WILL BURN BURN.” …”

That is some straight up WH40k shit…

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:36:26am

The entire Trump White House can’t seem to grasp that video evidence actually may exist to debunk their lies.

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JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:37:21am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:39:42am

re: #371 JordanRules

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If they’re convicted of felony crimes, yeah…..their lives are pretty much over.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:40:14am

re: #370 FormerDirtDart

The entire Trump White House can’t seem to grasp that video evidence actually may exist to debunk their lies.

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Busted. Hopefully this destroys any credibility Kelly had left.

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Teukka  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:40:42am

re: #371 JordanRules

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My surprised face, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:42:16am

re: #371 JordanRules

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JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:44:10am

re: #370 FormerDirtDart

Im going to pivot from my anger over this whole thing to a bit of laughter for a moment because 45 always, always, always leaves his supporters standing in shit.

They all think their different and smart enough to avoid it, but in the end they will always screw themselves over by dancing with the devil.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:44:50am

If anything, Wilson’s speech in 2015 is very bipartisan. She praises her fellow Florida Republicans.

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ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:45:02am

re: #370 FormerDirtDart

The entire Trump White House can’t seem to grasp that video evidence actually may exist to debunk their lies.

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Good thing there is video. Now let’s see how Kelly handles being in the crosshairs caught making shit up to excuse The Orange Presidential Blob.

I hope he realizes he just knocked his own stature down quite a few notches. Now he too becomes hard to believe.

He will now get a lot of criticism at the same time many said he appeared Presidential yesterday. Trump won’t like any of that. Time for Trump to kick him to the curb. It is Friday afterall.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:45:19am

re: #375 FormerDirtDart

Yep……attempted homicide is a felony crime. If they’re convicted, their lives are done.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:46:08am

re: #377 HappyWarrior

If anything, Wilson’s speech in 2015 is very bipartisan. She praises her fellow Florida Republicans.

You can’t please hateful morons, except by accepting their awful agenda for America. Anything less, and they’ll despise you.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:46:38am

It’s also very respectful to LEO. Kelly should be ashamed of himself for lying about the nature of her speech.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:47:54am

re: #381 HappyWarrior

It’s also very respectful to LEO. Kelly should be ashamed of himself for lying about the nature of her speech.

Kelly should be ashamed of himself for a lot of reasons, but he’s part of the extremists who declared a culture war against America’s ideals.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:48:17am

re: #382 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Kelly should be ashamed of himself for a lot of reasons, but he’s part of the extremists who declared a culture war against America’s ideals.

No doubt.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:49:26am

re: #375 FormerDirtDart

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I see a crazy guy, a stupid guy, and a guy with eyes as dead as Stephen Miller’s.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:50:17am

re: #358 FormerDirtDart

This adult will continue to use the public restroom.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:50:59am

re: #385 Patricia Kayden

This adult will continue to use the public restroom.

Yep. Same. Gotta love the people who call us snowflakes saying they’ll wear diapers over this.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:52:17am

re: #370 FormerDirtDart

The entire Trump White House can’t seem to grasp that video evidence actually may exist to debunk their lies.

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And she is HONORING FALLEN OFFICERS

so trumpovian that he forgot that.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:54:01am

re: #370 FormerDirtDart

The entire Trump White House can’t seem to grasp that video evidence actually may exist to debunk their lies.

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Wow. A liar who works for a liar. He must have forgotten that there was video of the event.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:54:51am

re: #385 Patricia Kayden

This adult will continue to use the public restroom.

It reminds me of this woman.
Diaper-wearing astronaut jailed in love triangle plot

I’m thinking some meth was consumed between the photos in the article.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:55:25am

re: #389 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It reminds me of this woman.
Diaper-wearing astronaut jailed in love triangle plot

I’m thinking some meth was consumed between the photos in the article.

God that was such a weird story.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:55:39am

re: #387 Stanley Sea

And she is HONORING FALLEN OFFICERS

so trumpovian that he forgot that.

It’s a foreign concept.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:58:31am
Do you even know what actual lone wolves like to do? We like running, howling, eating small mammals, smelling, and more running. You know what we don’t like to do? Shoot up concerts with weapons your founding fathers never could have imagined.

A Wolf Would Never Fucking Do This (Medium/Sam Bee)
By A North American Gray Wolf, Guest Columnist

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 8:58:44am

re: #387 Stanley Sea

And she is HONORING FALLEN OFFICERS

so trumpovian that he forgot that.

You could really hear the emotion in her voice. I guess Kelly thought people would take his word over an “empty barrel”. And indeed many will but most won’t.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:00:07am

re: #392 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

A Wolf Would Never Fucking Do This (Medium/Sam Bee)
By A North American Gray Wolf, Guest Columnist

Need to share this with my brother. He loves wolves.

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ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:02:50am

Just watched the video of Congresswoman Wilson’s speech.

I hope there is a lot of embarrassment in the White House this morning. Also there should be a lot of news people that jumped the gun on buying Kelly’s bullshit yesterday feeling a little embarrassed about believing the characterization that Kelly is a straight shooter.

Kelly’s gun jammed and when he got it to fire it was into his own foot.

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Alephnaught  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:10:26am

re: #368 HappyWarrior

I’m white but a friend of my dad who actually introduced my parents is like that. And his brother sees my dad as another older brother.

There’s elements of that in the LGBTI community too. Most recent element of that I’ve encountered: if you join the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence then, at least where I am, you’re expected to adopt a Mother (ie someone of fully professed Sister level) to turn to for help and advice. You’re then one of her Daughters.

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Citizen K  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:13:13am

re: #395 ObserverArt

Just watched the video of Congresswoman Wilson’s speech.

I hope there is a lot of embarrassment in the White House this morning. Also there should be a lot of news people that jumped the gun on buying Kelly’s bullshit yesterday feeling a little embarrassed about believing the characterization that Kelly is a straight shooter.

Kelly’s gun jammed and when he got it to fire it was into his own foot.

‘Should’ being the operative word. What we should expect, however, is them doubling down on it and media folks continuing to give them undue credulity despite video proof right in front of their face that Trump and Kelly are mendacious, cruel pieces of shit.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:21:24am

re: #376 JordanRules

Im going to pivot from my anger over this whole thing to a bit of laughter for a moment because 45 always, always, always leaves his supporters standing in shit.

Yeah, but it’s the BEST shit…

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Renaissance_Man  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:22:58am

re: #380 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

You can’t please hateful morons, except by accepting their awful agenda for America. Anything less, and they’ll despise you.

Actually, even if you do accept their agenda, they still won’t be pleased. Knuckling under to bullies doesn’t make them happy with you, it just makes you more of a target. Only joining their tribe will make them ‘happy’ with you. That’s why they have so many tribal recognitions, from the specific phrases of wingnut they say to the uniforms they wear - because their only agenda is to hate those not of their tribe, and so they need to recognise the ‘other’. Skin colour is only part of it.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:28:41am

re: #397 Citizen K

‘Should’ being the operative word. What we should expect, however, is them doubling down on it and media folks continuing to give them undue credulity despite video proof right in front of their face that Trump and Kelly are mendacious, cruel pieces of shit.

Anyone expecting any sense of shame from the WH is in for disappointment. Trump is already on to the story that Wilson was listening in secret. He’s two tweets away from accusing her of wire tapping him.

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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:31:48am

The open testimony with Says Who Cohen has bee postponed.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:34:19am
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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:35:10am

Good thing The Mooch fired that guy responsible for that horrible Holocaust poll.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:36:22am

re: #373 HappyWarrior

Busted. Hopefully this destroys any credibility Kelly had left.

as if proof matters /

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:38:36am

re: #376 JordanRules

Im going to pivot from my anger over this whole thing to a bit of laughter for a moment because 45 always, always, always leaves his supporters standing in shit.

They all think their different and smart enough to avoid it, but in the end they will always screw themselves over by dancing with the devil.

and they dont seem to realize they dance no matter what he does or says
they are marionettes and dont even know it

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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:38:59am

re: #403 b.d. (bill d.)

Good thing The Mooch fired that guy responsible for that horrible Holocaust poll.

[Embedded content]

I thought Mook said he wasn’t going to fire anyone for that poll.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:40:21am

I would remind those what John Kelly did during his brief stint at DHS:

He was the guy who ordered (under Muslim Ban 1.0) everyone in transit on visas to the USA from the targeted countries to be denied entry.

He was also the guy who ordered rounding up the green cards of people who were lawful residents of the nation (regardless of country), which caused hundreds of lawyers to descend on airports and fight pro-bono for their rights.

That’s the John Kelly that people have been holding forth would be a “moderating influence on Trump”

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:40:44am

re: #358 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]New Fox News 10 PM host says adults will wear diapers instead of sharing restrooms with trans people

you are sharing restrooms with trans people

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:40:51am

re: #402 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

Look at yourself Jackass.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:41:45am

re: #408 dangerman

you are sharing restrooms with trans people

I’m guessing FOX is just making stuff up again to spin up wingnuts.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:42:04am

re: #330 The Vicious Babushka

HOW TERRIBLE IT IS THIS FANCY DRESSED BLACK WOMAN HURT TRUMP’S FEELINGS & MADE JOHN KELLY CRY!!!!!11!!!

[Embedded content]

In whose world is telling the truth “blasting”?

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:42:43am

re: #406 makeitstop

I thought Mook said he wasn’t going to fire anyone for that poll.

I must have dreamed it or simply imagined an administration and their cronies doing the right thing?

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:43:44am

re: #409 HappyWarrior

Look at yourself Jackass.

I mean, I was expecting some dumb-ass who supported Sheriff Clarke to make a quip about her hat. I wasn’t expecting Clarke himself to be that clueless. Truly one of the great “self-owns” in internet history.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:44:50am

re: #413 Ace-o-aces

I mean, I was expecting some dumb-ass who supported Sheriff Clarke to make a quip about her hat. I wasn’t expecting Clarke himself to be that clueless. Truly one of the great “self-owns” in internet history.

At least she wears the hat for a reason. Clarke just looks like a kid playing dress up on Halloween.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:46:39am

re: #410 Anymouse 🌹

I’m guessing FOX is just making stuff up again to spin up wingnuts.

quelle surprise

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:48:46am

re: #414 HappyWarrior

At least she wears the hat for a reason. Clarke just looks like a kid playing dress up on Halloween.

Why does she wear the hat, other than for fashion?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:51:48am

re: #416 Ace-o-aces

Why does she wear the hat, other than for fashion?

It’s a tribute to her grandmother.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:55:58am

re: #417 HappyWarrior

It’s a tribute to her grandmother.

So for fashion in her grandmother’s time.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:57:44am

re: #418 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

So for fashion in her grandmother’s time.

Yeah fashion in her grandmother’s time but I see it now as a personal tribute. I have an Irish themed tattoo in tribute to mine just as my cousin named her daughter after her.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:58:23am

re: #417 HappyWarrior

It’s a tribute to her grandmother.

I found a quote:

“It all started with my grandmother, whose name was Frederica also. She wore hats and gloves. I just wanted to be like her, so I started wearing hats. I just like to dress up, I guess, and I got that from her,” Wilson told Roll Call in 2012.

“I’ve never counted, but I’ve been wearing them almost 30 years,” Wilson told Politifact in 2010. “It’s almost like a fetish. … I have hundreds.”

OK, so she just likes loud hats. At least she admits it, unlike Clarke who has to come up with BS excuses for his hat and pins.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 9:58:39am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:00:23am

re: #420 Ace-o-aces

I found a quote:

OK, so she just likes loud hats. At least she admits it, unlike Clarke who has to come up with BS excuses for his hat and pins.

Oh yeah, no doubt she likes wearing them.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:01:22am

Her wearing a hat is irrelevant. I mean Clarke’s hats are goofy but the problem with Clarke isn’t his cowboy hat, it’s that he’s had people including a pregnant woman die in his jails. Wilson’s done nothing wrong.

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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:03:18am

Rude Pundit is fire today.

You can read about the many ways in which Kelly lied about Congresswoman Frederica Wilson. You can get confused at Kelly’s statement that Wilson “listened in” on a conversation that was on a fucking speakerphone in the car she was riding in and therefore she had no fucking choice but to listen in. You can roll your eyes at Kelly calling Donald Trump “brave” for reaching out to the family of a fallen soldier, as if Donald Trump has ever done anything braver than eat one too many Big Macs in a single sitting. You can even shake your head at Kelly’s beyond ignorant invocation of the past when “Women were sacred, looked upon with great honor.”

But I’m saying, “Oh, just fuck off” to John Kelly for a couple of reasons.

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I cannot.  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:04:39am

re: #423 HappyWarrior

Not entirely irrelevant, but very tangential. She wears hats because she likes them. He wears hats to appear badass…and fails.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:05:14am

re: #425 I cannot.

Not entirely irrelevant, but very tangential. She wears hats because she likes them. He wears hats to appear badass…and fails.

True, true.

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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:05:35am

re: #412 b.d. (bill d.)

I must have dreamed it or simply imagined an administration and their cronies doing the right thing?

There was talk that he’d fire someone, but then Mook said the guy who posted the poll was his partner.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:05:42am
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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:06:46am

Now that is a hat.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:17:45am

Conservatives or their Russian handlers are still at it:

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JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:19:05am

Good article on the hats.

‘My heritage’

Wilson is named after her grandmother. The elder Frederica hailed from the Bahamas, where ladies always wore hats and gloves.

“It’s my heritage,” says Wilson.

In grade school it was feminine hats and bows. In middle school it was a Davy Crockett style that raised the eyebrows, and the ire, of school administrators. The dean called her father in one day to complain about the tomboyish hats.

She and her father did not budge. The Davy Crockett hats stayed.

tampabay.com

A look at some of the hats!

essence.com

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wrenchwench  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:20:00am

Welcome the visitors.

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:20:18am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

Trump, Kelly and the right wing echo chamber continue to try and slag Rep. Wilson and the reality is that all the right wing has done is lie about Wilson.

Every step of the way has been a lie, and this morning Trump tried to change the tactic to claim that what Wilson did was eavesdropping and somehow improper.

The reality is that the WH called to Johnson’s family while they were in a car with family friend Rep. Wilson, and Wilson overheard the entire exchange.

Nothing that Wilson said about the exchange has been rebutted by the WH. Instead, Trump and his vapid attack dogs are trying to make this about Wilson, not Trump’s tin ear and lack of empathy.

Attack the family. Attack the friend of the family for standing up against a craven bully who absolutely lacks empathy. Then get COS Kelly to lie and make up BS on top of things:

This is all the admin does. They lie.

But the lies aren’t resulting in the kind of damage to the admin one would normally expect because they simply pivot to the next lie and act as though they haven’t done anything wrong.

The media keeps getting played and they keep focusing on the wrong things.

It’s hard to keep up with things, but the GOP is trying to gut the safety net again to push massive tax cuts the nation can’t afford so that millionaires can rape the Treasury and everyone else is stuck with the burdens, including massively expanding the debt and deficits.

All the while, the Mueller investigation continues as do all the other investigations.

Even the investigation into what happened in Niger is just starting - and the Admin has a lot of questions it needs to answer about delayed SAR and diplomatic responses, and whether their action on the travel ban played a role (it’s plausible).

Oh, and Trump’s Nazi brigade engaged in more violence, including firing on a crowd last night. Domestic terrorists of the white supremacist variety did what they’ve done before - engage in terrorism and trying to silence their opponents. Trump however thinks that they’re good people.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:23:28am

re: #429 Shropshire Slasher

[Embedded content]

Now that is a hat.

Wilson looks better in a $15 hat than Donnie does in a $400 one.

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JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:24:20am

*sings in Parliament style*
Gas light! Red light! Neon light! Ooh, stop light!

And the gaslighting will continue until we accept their reality!

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:25:03am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:25:12am

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:25:41am
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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:25:46am
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Stanley Sea  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:25:49am

re: #424 makeitstop

Rude Pundit is fire today.

Yeah, a bit off Kelly was

He is probably invoking the Khan family, who criticized Trump at the Democratic Convention, and not Patricia Smith, who lost her son in the Benghazi attack and called Hillary a murderer, more or less, at the Republican Convention.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:25:57am

re: #436 lawhawk

Crazy, Dead-eyes, and Stupid.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:28:07am
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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:28:52am

re: #438 FormerDirtDart

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:29:20am

Free coffee at Cumberland Farms gas stations today!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:31:53am

The hashtag at Twitter started to defend Representative Wilson, IBelieveFrederica is now being swarmed by conservatives, meme-makers, and their Russian handlers to slander Wilson and her defenders.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:32:28am
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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:32:46am
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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:33:55am

re: #425 I cannot.

Not entirely irrelevant, but very tangential. She wears hats because she likes them. He wears hats to appear badass…and fails.

totally irrelevant
and worse is the way they are using it - to discredit and demean:

- “wacky congresswoman” (trump himself)

- “That woman, that Congresswoman, whatever her name is that wears the hat - she’s a bozo. Stop it. End it.” - Foxnews

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bratwurst  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:34:07am

Maybe he wants to run so he can support the POTUS he did his very best to get elected?

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Stanley Sea  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:34:39am

Check out the wall decor at the newest trump’s nursery.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:35:06am

re: #449 bratwurst

Maybe he wants to run so he can support the POTUS he did his very best to get elected?

It will be hilarious watching him not learn anything when he gets crushed.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:35:35am

re: #429 Shropshire Slasher

[Embedded content]

Now that is a hat.

man could drive
earned the right to wear whatever he wanted

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:35:58am

re: #449 bratwurst

Maybe he wants to run so he can support the POTUS he did his very best to get elected?

[Embedded content]

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:36:09am

re: #447 lawhawk

The slip-up actually starts with Fox’s reporter, who says “You’ve read the transcripts” of the call and asks what the couple thinks. Instead of pausing to think and then saying, “Hm, it would be inappropriate for us to read that, even if such transcripts exist,”

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:36:39am

You know, “quarantine” was bad enough, but, it didn’t end there
Oh no, she went even deeper into her dead evil fucking heart

“… “It’s almost frightening the number of people who are living that are carriers with the potential to spread,” Price said during the hearing. “Whereas in the past, they died more readily, and at that point, they’re not posing a risk. So we’ve got a huge population posing a risk if they’re not in treatment.” …”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:37:27am

re: #455 FormerDirtDart

You know, “quarantine” was bad enough, but, it didn’t end there
Oh no, she went even deeper into her dead evil fucking heart

[Embedded content]

Evil just like her hubby.

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wrenchwench  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:37:38am

re: #450 Stanley Sea

Check out the wall decor at the newest trump’s nursery.

[Embedded content]

Is that Moose and Squirrel as hunting trophies? Boris and Natasha as parents?

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Citizen K  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:37:48am
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gocart mozart  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:37:55am

re: #434 b.d. (bill d.)

All hat, no character

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:38:00am

re: #450 Stanley Sea

It’s cute, I miss having babies to hold.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:38:19am

re: #450 Stanley Sea

I hope that’s photoshopped, but if it is, they did a good job. The bizarre decorations are casting shadows.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:38:22am

More and more people thanks to research are surviving and living full lives with HIV.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:40:09am

re: #455 FormerDirtDart

You know, “quarantine” was bad enough, but, it didn’t end there
Oh no, she went even deeper into her dead evil fucking heart

[Embedded content]

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:40:30am

re: #441 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Crazy, Dead-eyes, and Stupid.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:40:30am

Ron Fournier✔
@ron_fournier

After this particularly gross day, can we shed our red- & blue-colored glasses for a moment to see what we’ve let happen to our politics?

The most terrifying words in the English language are: I’m from the government and I’m here to help.—Ronald Reagan

That’s what happened to our politics, Mr. Fournier.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:41:59am

re: #465 Anymouse 🌹

Ron Fournier✔
@ron_fournier

That’s what happened to our politics, Mr. Fournier.

Yep I blame Reagan for a lot of the reasons why the right is the right of today. He racebaited just like Trump.

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:44:02am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:44:37am

re: #447 lawhawk

More dead eyes.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:45:10am

re: #447 lawhawk

Notable:

Fox News host Ainsley Earhardt revealed during an interview on “Fox and Friends” that Trump, the wife of the President’s son Eric, had seen the transcript of the call. Trump described her father-in-law’s remark as coming during a broader comment on Sgt. La David Johnson’s commitment to serving his country.

Why is she citing Eric Trump “seeing” a transcript—why is the not-in-government son of the POTUS seeing anything official?

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:45:40am

re: #450 Stanley Sea

Check out the wall decor at the newest trump’s nursery.

Moose and cow?

What, Boris and Natasha couldn’t spring for a damn squirrel?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:46:04am
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ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:46:06am

re: #429 Shropshire Slasher

[Embedded content]

Now that is a hat.

Worn by a racist asshole that is still stuck in the 50s.

And he wears that hat everywhere he goes and is ‘loved’ for it.

But he is a White Southern Personality. I guess that makes him better than a Black Congresswoman.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:47:09am

re: #471 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

Yep.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:48:27am

re: #469 The Ghost of a Flea

Notable:

Why is she citing Eric Trump “seeing” a transcript—why is the not-in-government son of the POTUS seeing anything official?

Because shut up.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:48:58am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:49:09am
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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:49:43am

re: #471 goddamnedfrank

Add Colin Kaepernick’s mom to that as well (calling him a SOB). [ed: corrected]

They’re black…

go on..

they’re women.

Do they look like a bitch?

Trump and his right wing attack dogs certain are treating them as chattel.

And not for the first

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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:50:29am
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JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:51:55am

re: #477 lawhawk

Colin’s Moms (bio and adopted) are both white.

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sagehen  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:52:02am

re: #477 lawhawk

Add Colin Kaepernick’s mom to that as well (calling him a SOB).

They’re black…

go on..

they’re women.

Do they look like a bitch?

Trump and his right wing attack dogs certain are treating them as chattel.

And not for the first

nitpick… Colin Kaepernick’s mom is white.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:52:05am

re: #477 lawhawk

Add Colin Kaepernick’s mom to that as well (calling him a SOB).

They’re black…

go on..

they’re women.

Do they look like a bitch?

Trump and his right wing attack dogs certain are treating them as chattel.

And not for the first

Kaepernick’ mom is white not to nitpick.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:53:07am

Ha! Y’all are quick.

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:53:52am

re: #482 HappyWarrior

Ha! Y’all are quick.

Fact checking y’asses off.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:54:08am

re: #475 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

Dempsey is someone I respect. A modern day George Marshall.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:54:12am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:54:50am

re: #483 lawhawk

Fact checking y’asses off.

We strive for accuracy heh but man fuck Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:55:54am

re: #485 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

Shocker. Miami area Congresswoman hired someone who worked for another Southern Florida Congresswoman.

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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:57:08am

I’m back at the tire store today, this time for a new set of tires for my wife’s car. They discovered a loose tie rod, so that is getting fixed, too.

I think I might be in the running for customer of the month at this place by the time they hand me the bill.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:57:33am

This Fox headline needs a colonectomy

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:57:43am

re: #471 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]This Administration has lied about, abused & picked fights w/:
Susan Rice
April Ryan
Maxine Waters
Frederika Wilson

Do you see the pattern?

sessions, comey, tillerson

the number of administration lies is probably uncountable

the number of administration lies that having been ill thought out or mishandled, attacked and abused others, got legs and became “a thing” are probably close to 100

theres a lot they lied about. and then screwed up even worse

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:57:57am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:58:31am

Rep Wilson has already gotten death threats. Will Trump and Kelly comment or condemn those? Nope but they will gladly continue to smear her with the help of their allies.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:58:55am

re: #338 FormerDirtDart

A thought on these pictures: What would a picture of all Americans averaged together look like.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:59:39am

re: #489 The Vicious Babushka

This Fox headline needs a colonectomy

[Embedded content]

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:59:49am

re: #489 The Vicious Babushka

This Fox headline needs a colonectomy

[Embedded content]

Disgusting because she was bothered by Donnie Jr’s asshole of a father’s half hearted condolence. Go the fuck away, Donnie Jr, no one likes you.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 10:59:52am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:00:33am

re: #494 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

[Embedded content]

He’s supposedly not involved but happy to cry like a baby whenever his Daddy gets called out.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:00:34am

re: #488 makeitstop

I’m back at the tire store today, this time for a new set of tires for my wife’s car. They discovered a loose tie rod, so that is getting fixed, too.

I think I might be in the running for customer of the month at this place by the time they hand me the bill.

i guess you and anymouse must be tired

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:01:21am

re: #496 Anymouse 🌹

[Embedded content]

Rep Guitterez was right to call him a disgrace to the uniform.

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ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:01:25am

re: #433 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

Trump, Kelly and the right wing echo chamber continue to try and slag Rep. Wilson and the reality is that all the right wing has done is lie about Wilson.

Every step of the way has been a lie, and this morning Trump tried to change the tactic to claim that what Wilson did was eavesdropping and somehow improper.

The reality is that the WH called to Johnson’s family while they were in a car with family friend Rep. Wilson, and Wilson overheard the entire exchange.

Nothing that Wilson said about the exchange has been rebutted by the WH. Instead, Trump and his vapid attack dogs are trying to make this about Wilson, not Trump’s tin ear and lack of empathy.

Attack the family. Attack the friend of the family for standing up against a craven bully who absolutely lacks empathy. Then get COS Kelly to lie and make up BS on top of things:

[Embedded content]

And we have to keep in mind when Trump made the call. I don’t know the exact time, but I’m pretty sure it was done after he had the press conference and was asked about his response to the families of the soldiers killed in Niger.

He was rushed into it because he was caught having done nothing to that point.

Would he even have called her had he not been caught being tone deaf to the whole Niger thing?

Trump brought all of this on himself. If he was a decent human being this would never have happened. He is a charlatan showman devoid of human dignity.

And I said in a comment yesterday, I bet the tone of his call was evident to everyone in that car. He probably was a little pissed off he had to make that call. He probably wasn’t in the right mind to have to make it. And that is Trump being the Big Orange Bull in the White House and paying for it.

Actually, we are all paying for it.

Another thing, at least Congresswoman Wilson was there to represent the U.S. Government for the young widow. Unlike the “Commander in Chief” who had to be reminded of his duty.

501
JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:01:36am
502
Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:02:03am

re: #498 dangerman

i guess you and anymouse must be tired

LOL. Dangerman is spending a lot more money than my wife and I did, though.

I hope he gets that “customer of the month” plaque. /s

503
makeitstop  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:02:06am

re: #498 dangerman

i guess you and anymouse must be tired

It’s tire week at LGF! :)

504
dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:02:11am

re: #491 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

im hoping it doesnt go exponential

505
JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:02:25am

re: #503 makeitstop

I am tired!!

506
HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:03:49am

re: #501 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

Yep. Kelly is deliberately ignoring that the Johnson family considers Wilson a family friend and is someone who knew La David as a man and human being that the Johnsons lost. Kelly alone should be shamed for that.

507
Ace-o-aces  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:04:00am
508
Belafon  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:04:14am

re: #504 dangerman

im hoping it doesnt go exponential

Two kaiju would suck.

509
makeitstop  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:05:23am

re: #505 JordanRules

I am tired!!

They’re about half way through the work, so I guess I’m semi-re-tired…

510
Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:06:20am

The one thing you are not allowed to do if you work for Donald Trump is make him look bad.

Over/under on Kelly being fired resigning by the end of the weekend?

511
Shropshire Slasher  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:06:26am
512
Stanley Sea  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:07:29am

re: #457 wrenchwench

Is that Moose and Squirrel as hunting trophies? Boris and Natasha as parents?

Moose and Thumper, the bunny.

Raise the kid right!

513
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:08:37am

re: #507 Ace-o-aces

It really looks a lot like any Deplorable’s timeline. You can’t parody a subculture that acts like a parody of what Conservatives once were.

514
makeitstop  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:08:55am

re: #502 Anymouse 🌹

LOL. Dangerman is spending a lot more money than my wife and I did, though.

I hope he gets that “customer of the month” plaque. /s

Wait, dangerman is paying for this? Sweet! Thanks, dm!

515
Amory Blaine  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:09:25am

Heh. Had to plug a tire on the minivan yesterday as I put new brakes on and noticed a screw.

516
The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:09:59am

re: #494 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Follow-up notable:

Why is a news channel constantly probing the adult children of the POTUS about issues in US politics?

They’re have no portfolio, no qualifications, and from a standard of decorum about the wall between their business and their father’s political position…ugh.

This is another thing that demonstrates where we are as a democracy with a press and a consuming audience of potential voters; this is another Not Normal.

It is important that emotional narratives are being presented as valid only when issued by a small group of people. It is important that the children of a world leader are being presented as sources of information and people of merit with no qualifying criterion other than their parentage.

517
Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:10:13am

And now the racist memes attacking Rep. Wilson are going up on the IBelieveFrederica hashtag.

I will not put them here.

518
ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:10:41am

re: #435 JordanRules

*sings in Parliament style*
Gas light! Red light! Neon light! Ooh, stop light!

[Embedded content]

And the gaslighting will continue until we accept their reality!

If you able to make a sacred act like honoring American heroes about yourself you are an empty barrel.

That is what they are saying today from the White House Press Office by SHS.

Did you listen to your boss on Monday and all week long? Trump has made the whole thing about himself the minute he was asked if he contacted the families. And it is still about him today.

Even if you fuck up, most adults know when to call it over and accept you messed up. Not this man buy. No, he calls his general in to cover for him.

I like Presidents that can man up. Okay.

519
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:11:14am

re: #517 Anymouse 🌹

And now the racist memes attacking Rep. Wilson are going up on the IBelieveFrederica hashtag.

I will not put them here.

Sounds like a good opportunity to report racists.

520
The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:11:16am

Jim Wright wins The Internet

521
Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:12:13am

re: #513 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It really looks a lot like any Deplorable’s timeline. You can’t parody a subculture that acts like a parody of what Conservatives once were.

Conservatives were always like that. (John Birch Society, Pat Buchannan, Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater, George Wallace, &c &c ad infinitum).

Sometimes they used dogwhistles (Reagan and Nixon), sometimes they did not (Wallace and William F. Buckley). They were never any different than today’s so-called deplorables.

522
JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:13:06am

re: #518 ObserverArt

Everyone around him will eventually have to take a bullet for him. That is how it works. You can’t escape it.

523
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:13:21am
524
Belafon  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:13:49am

re: #517 Anymouse 🌹

And now the racist memes attacking Rep. Wilson are going up on the IBelieveFrederica hashtag.

I will not put them here.

Sounds like the Russians are working overtime.

525
makeitstop  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:14:04am

re: #520 The Vicious Babushka

Jim Wright wins The Internet

[Embedded content]

Does the director tell Dana to sound as irrationally angry as she can in those spots, or is she always like that?

526
Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:14:39am

re: #524 Belafon

Sounds like the Russians are working overtime.

Hard to tell. Could also be garden-variety conservatives.

527
JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:15:55am

re: #524 Belafon

Yup!

528
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:15:58am

re: #524 Belafon

Sounds like the Russians are working overtime.

Or the Americans that the Russians so easily radicalized. The Russian operation worked so well because the American right wants to be lied to, and be given permission to pretend that they’re good people as they spew hate. Same goes for the leftists that they used.

529
Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:16:33am
530
FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:16:53am
531
JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:17:35am

re: #528 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It’s a marriage made in hate!

532
Belafon  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:17:49am

re: #526 Anymouse 🌹

Hard to tell. Could also be garden-variety conservatives.

I don’t know if you ever spent any time at Balloon Juice, but DougJ started on there back when John Cole was a Republican. He would dog John a lot. He was also accused of creating sock accounts to keep pestering. One of the things that would drive trolls nuts was to accuse them of being one of Doug’s sock puppet accounts.

If they are conservatives, then they’re doing a great job for the Russians and might as well be accused of it. (I would if I could do Twitter at work).

533
dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:18:27am

re: #505 JordanRules

I am tired!!

Sears? Pep boys?

534
Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:18:56am
535
ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:20:04am

re: #460 Shropshire Slasher

It’s cute, I miss having babies to hold.

You are doing a nice job as a fluffer.

You have all kinds of stuff in your comments to water down what everyone is talking about. Very subtle.

Maybe the kid will grow up to be a big game hunter like his uncles. They can start a savings account so he can afford those arranged hunts in Africa and other places. Then when he is older he can have real trophy heads on plaques instead of the cute ones in his room now.

Cute!

536
Stanley Sea  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:20:07am

re: #488 makeitstop

I’m back at the tire store today, this time for a new set of tires for my wife’s car. They discovered a loose tie rod, so that is getting fixed, too.

I think I might be in the running for customer of the month at this place by the time they hand me the bill.

Did the anthem play again?

537
Amory Blaine  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:20:23am

re: #528 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

A lot of them are itching for blood.

538
Mike Lamb  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:21:05am

re: #516 The Ghost of a Flea

Follow-up notable:

Why is a news channel constantly probing the adult children of the POTUS about issues in US politics?

They’re have no portfolio, no qualifications, and from a standard of decorum about the wall between their business and their father’s political position…ugh.

This is another thing that demonstrates where we are as a democracy with a press and a consuming audience of potential voters; this is another Not Normal.

It is important that emotional narratives are being presented as valid only when issued by a small group of people. It is important that the children of a world leader are being presented as sources of information and people of merit with no qualifying criterion other than their parentage.

It’s not just “decorum”—2 of the kids are supposed to be explicitly walled off from any input into politics/policy.

539
Shropshire Slasher  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:21:19am

re: #527 JordanRules

Has Representative Frederica Wilson for President hastag started yet?

540
dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:21:44am

re: #514 makeitstop

Wait, dangerman is paying for this? Sweet! Thanks, dm!

Sure stick me with the bartab and I didn’t even have a drink

541
jaunte  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:22:10am
542
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:23:15am

re: #537 Amory Blaine

A lot of them are itching for blood.

It would be better to deradicalize them than to have to have police and the national guard put them down when they act out, but Republican propagandists would have to develop consciences, and work to undo the damage they’ve done.

543
goddamnedfrank  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:23:21am
544
JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:23:22am

re: #533 dangerman

Firestone!!!!!!!!

545
Amory Blaine  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:23:42am

re: #535 ObserverArt

He won’t need a savings account. American royalty will inherit the earth.

546
Shropshire Slasher  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:24:03am

re: #535 ObserverArt

You are doing a nice job as a fluffer.

I never have been in a porn production.

547
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:26:59am

re: #546 Shropshire Slasher

I never have been in a porn production.

Was “obtuse” the look you were going for? You’ve missed the point a couple of times in this thread.

548
HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:28:29am

re: #541 jaunte

[Embedded content]

I watched the whole thing this morning. She gave a lovely tribute to Agents Grogan and Dove. And thanked members of both parties in Congress and Director Comey. Kelly banked on no one finding this. He’ll have right wingers believe him but he shit his credibility elsewhere.

549
Shropshire Slasher  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:28:59am

re: #547 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I was going for acute.

550
FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:29:01am
551
HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:29:58am

re: #550 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

Of course, he was pleased. Trump loves having his ego stroked. I bet he especially liked it when Kelly said how brave he was.

552
ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:31:00am

re: #539 Shropshire Slasher

Has Representative Frederica Wilson for President hastag started yet?

You worried?

You could always start it if it hasn’t.

553
Amory Blaine  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:31:17am

re: #537 Amory Blaine

A lot of them are itching for blood.

From thehill.

Hippy killer Nailbanger
3 hours ago
Yeah, and the Cure is concentration camps ovens bullets to the face. Death to the enemy! Physically remove all leftists and liberals!

554
ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:32:16am

re: #546 Shropshire Slasher

I never have been in a porn production.

Well, at least you are not denying it.

555
goddamnedfrank  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:32:59am
556
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:34:02am

We need to all reject this rebranding.

557
ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:34:35am

Gotta give this White House an acknowledgement.

They are some bold ass liars. Pros.

558
lawhawk  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:34:47am

re: #555 goddamnedfrank

559
goddamnedfrank  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:36:17am

re: #546 Shropshire Slasher

I never have been in a porn production.

In ≠ part of

560
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:36:20am

re: #555 goddamnedfrank

561
dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:36:36am

re: #535 ObserverArt

You are doing a nice job as a fluffer.

You have all kinds of stuff in your comments to water down what everyone is talking about. Very subtle.

Maybe the kid will grow up to be a big game hunter like his uncles. They can start a savings account so he can afford those arranged hunts in Africa and other places. Then when he is older he can have real trophy heads on plaques instead of the cute ones in his room now.

Cute!

I just learned a new word. Guess which one.

562
Belafon  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:36:39am

re: #558 lawhawk

Yep, since they work for us.

563
HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:37:06am

re: #555 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

Hiding behind the uniform disgraceful. She’s not even denying that he lied but saying he should be taken more seriously than Rep Wilson.

564
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:37:52am

re: #561 dangerman

I just learned a new word. Guess which one.

Plaques?
/

565
dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:38:37am

re: #548 HappyWarrior

I watched the whole thing this morning. She gave a lovely tribute to Agents Grogan and Dove. And thanked members of both parties in Congress and Director Comey. Kelly banked on no one finding this. He’ll have right wingers believe him but he shit his credibility elsewhere.

Or they were too stupid or !azy to check first
Lots of hubris and incompetence there

566
EPR-radar  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:40:04am

re: #565 dangerman

Or they were too stupid or !azy to check first
Lots of hubris and incompetence there

Fact checking is irrelevant for the right if enough people just believe what they want to believe independent of reality.

567
ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:41:22am

re: #561 dangerman

I just learned a new word. Guess which one.

Got me! You’re pretty good with words, so I can’t imagine.

568
Chrysicat  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:41:31am
569
HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:41:41am

re: #565 dangerman

Or they were too stupid or !azy to check first
Lots of hubris and incompetence there

Whatever it was. I think he was banking and SHS is doing it that people would take the word over John F. Kelly, white general from Boston over Fredericka Wilson, black Congresswoman from Miami. Lawrence O’Donnell did a great job last night talking about the attitudes in Kelly’s neighborhood because he grew up nearby.

570
HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:42:26am

re: #568 Chrysicat

[Embedded content]

I hope someone like Larry Flynt can find proof of Trump forcing a woman to get an abortion.

571
dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:42:28am

re: #557 ObserverArt

Gotta give this White House an acknowledgement.

They are some bold ass liars. Pros.

As long as “pro” doesn’t include being found out
Or called on it
Or proven with video

572
dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:43:48am

re: #560 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

[Embedded content]

Spokesbot seems to think the admin cannot be questioned

573
ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:44:29am

re: #571 dangerman

As long as “pro” doesn’t include being found out
Or called on it
Or proven with video

That is why they are pros. They don’t give a damn. Or, a fuck.

Just lies.

Full speed ahead. And their backers love ‘em for it.

574
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:45:36am

re: #572 dangerman

Spokesbot seems to think the admin cannot be questioned

Just like North Korea. Fortunately the brainwashing hasn’t reached everyone, since they can’t make Fox News the only channel.

575
dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:46:21am

re: #566 EPR-radar

Fact checking is irrelevant for the right if enough people just believe what they want to believe independent of reality.

That’s what I’m sayin

576
dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:46:45am

re: #567 ObserverArt

Got me! You’re pretty good with words, so I can’t imagine.

Cute

577
makeitstop  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:49:24am

re: #536 Stanley Sea

Did the anthem play again?

No, not today. I would have started trashing the joint. Had to wait 90 minutes for the tires to get here, and right now I’m pretty hungry and cranky.

I’m done with this crap for a while, at least.

578
dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:49:52am

re: #569 HappyWarrior

Whatever it was. I think he was banking and SHS is doing it that people would take the word over John F. Kelly, white general from Boston over Fredericka Wilson, black Congresswoman from Miami. Lawrence O’Donnell did a great job last night talking about the attitudes in Kelly’s neighborhood because he grew up nearby.

of course. goes without saying these days. sigh

i was alreayd at the next step - just for fun musing are they brilliant or idiots
they keep stepping in it so often i have to go with “not machiavelli”

579
HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:50:45am

re: #578 dangerman

of course. goes without saying these days. sigh

i was alreayd at the next step - just for fun musing are they brilliant or idiots
they keep stepping in it so often i have to go with “not machiavelli”

It’s so so fucked up I know.

580
Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:52:50am

re: #455 FormerDirtDart

You know, “quarantine” was bad enough, but, it didn’t end there
Oh no, she went even deeper into her dead evil fucking heart

[Embedded content]

Wow! Just like Lyndon LaRoche wanted to do in California with his 1984 and 1986 ballot initiatives!!!!!!

581
Eventual Carrion  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:42:40pm

re: #371 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

Lone wolf pack it seems.

582
Eventual Carrion  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:43:58pm

re: #375 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

At least we know where and by whom they were radicalized.

583
Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:47:03pm

Because he’s a conservative?

584
Eventual Carrion  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:53:02pm

re: #420 Ace-o-aces

I found a quote:

OK, so she just likes loud hats. At least she admits it, unlike Clarke who has to come up with BS excuses for his hat and pins.

I have a friend that will not be caught dead without a hat if not out at her pool, and even there she wears one when not in the pool. She has hundreds of hats she has collected over the years. She gave my wife a couple hats of hers in case she lost her hair during chemo treatments, luckily my wife’s hair got a bit thinner during treatments but never all fell out.


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