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Charles Johnson  Oct 22, 2017 • 12:26:30pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 22, 2017 • 12:29:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2017 • 12:32:02pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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He is.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 22, 2017 • 12:33:46pm

JJ has returned to her influence campaign thread
She’s already up to entry 55

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Renaissance_Man  Oct 22, 2017 • 12:35:27pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

It’s only ‘controversial’ because the Republican party and the Conservative cult in general is not quite ready to openly come out as a white supremacist party. They are, but American media is still playing coy and pretending they are not. Slowly the American media is normalising it though, and when it has enough general acceptance CNN will be more overt about it.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 22, 2017 • 12:39:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2017 • 12:40:31pm

re: #6 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Exactly. It’s as Coates said, he’s our first white president.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 22, 2017 • 12:41:39pm

the next democratic congress should set aside a generous land grant where white supremacists and proponents of a totally free market devoid of those annoying “laws” and “regulations” will be free to live out their ideals and theories without bothering normal people

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2017 • 12:41:42pm

Just as I thought though, Rep Wilson has been he subject of racist attacks because she dared to criticize Trump.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 22, 2017 • 12:42:11pm

re: #7 HappyWarrior

Exactly. It’s as Coates said, he’s our first white president.

Of the modern era anyway. They were all white supremacist Presidents at one time.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2017 • 12:44:38pm

re: #10 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Of the modern era anyway. They were all white supremacist Presidents at one time.

True.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 22, 2017 • 12:44:42pm

How did it all go down with Mrs. Johnson and ABC News re: her confirming that Facebook post as a fabrication? Did they call her/she call them? Or was she on tv?

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ObserverArt  Oct 22, 2017 • 12:44:53pm

I’m watching the U.S. Grand Prix in Austin Texas and they just showed Big Bill Clinton at the track talking with Woody Harrelson and watching. I guess since he was in Texas this weekend he wanted to see some real auto racing.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 22, 2017 • 12:48:00pm

re: #12 GlutenFreeJesus

How did it all go down with Mrs. Johnson and ABC News re: her confirming that Facebook post as a fabrication? Did they call her/she call them? Or was she on tv?

She’s scheduled to be on Good Morning America tomorrow I believe.
I’m guessing the question was raised in either a recorded interview, or pre-appearance questions

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 22, 2017 • 12:48:28pm

re: #14 FormerDirtDart

She’s scheduled to be on Good Morning America tomorrow I believe.
I’m guessing the question was raised in either a recorded interview, or pre-appearance questions

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nines09  Oct 22, 2017 • 12:49:25pm

James McMurtry is another treasure too few ever heard.

The Fuller Brush man - James McMurtry

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jaunte  Oct 22, 2017 • 12:57:00pm

re: #9 HappyWarrior

Just as I thought though, Rep Wilson has been he subject of racist attacks because she dared to criticize Trump.

Conservatives are also slamming her for wearing a silly hat.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 22, 2017 • 12:57:27pm

re: #14 FormerDirtDart

Thank you!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2017 • 12:57:59pm

re: #17 jaunte

Conservatives are also slamming her for wearing a silly hat.

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No Trump wearing his fugly MAGA hat?

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jaunte  Oct 22, 2017 • 12:58:34pm

re: #19 HappyWarrior

Space limitations!

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 22, 2017 • 12:58:36pm

re: #17 jaunte

Conservatives are also slamming her for wearing a silly hat.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2017 • 12:59:34pm

re: #21 The Vicious Babushka

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It’s projection as always with these asses.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2017 • 12:59:46pm

re: #20 jaunte

Space limitations!

Aha true.

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jaunte  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:01:17pm

Note Texas Ag Commissioner Sid Miller’s handgun pin, to reassure the NRA he will always support the manufacturer’s lobby.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:02:34pm

re: #24 jaunte

Note Texas Ag Commissioner Sid Miller’s handgun pin, to reassure the NRA he will always support the manufacturer’s lobby.

Moore looks like a child dressing up like an old time sheriff.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:03:45pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

Moore looks like a child dressing up like an old time sheriff.

He’s not the first Conservative to try to live in an imagined past.

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jaunte  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:03:56pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

I’m an old enough native Texan to know wearing a sun hat indoors, especially at night, is playing dress up.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:05:15pm

If they ever form an alliance with the cats, we’re screwed

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:05:55pm

re: #27 jaunte

I’m an old enough native Texan to know wearing a sun hat indoors, especially at night, is playing dress up.

Who’s the dude in the lower left?

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jaunte  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:07:23pm

re: #29 HappyWarrior

That’s Ryan Zinke.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:09:25pm

re: #30 jaunte

That’s Ryan Zinke.

Ah! Thanks.

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jaunte  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:09:39pm

Ryan Zinke, who played cowboy dress up and rode a horse to work on his first day at Interior.
npr.org

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TedStriker  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:16:32pm

re: #32 jaunte

Ryan Zinke, who played cowboy dress up and rode a horse to work on his first day at Interior.
npr.org

And who has ordered Interior HQ to raise a “command” flag up whenever he or his deputy is in their DC office.

bostonglobe.com

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:17:22pm

Sportsball

Titans just defeated Browns 12-9, on an Overtime field goal
What a pathetic display of sportsball

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:17:49pm

re: #17 jaunte

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:19:49pm

re: #33 TedStriker

And who has ordered Interior HQ to raise a “command” flag up whenever he or his deputy is in their DC office.

bostonglobe.com

So tacky.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:20:21pm

re: #33 TedStriker

And who has ordered Interior HQ to raise and lower a “command” flag whenever he or his deputy is in their DC office.

These people are children.

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TedStriker  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:20:39pm

re: #34 FormerDirtDart

Sportsball

As a Nashvillian and a Titans fan, I’ll take the W any way I can get it.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:22:14pm
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mmmirele  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:22:22pm

I don’t know if this got mentioned while I was away on jury duty, but it’s about Russian meddlers putting up falsehoods about a Trump rally here in Phoenix:

Remember that photo supposedly showing a massive crowd for Trump’s rally in downtown Phoenix?

As it turns out, the account was run by a Russian organization with ties to the Kremlin that’s known for spreading fake news and propaganda.

*snip*

As first reported in an investigation by Russian newspaper RBC and then confirmed by BuzzFeed, the Twitter account behind the viral shot of not-Phoenix was run by the Internet Research Agency, an organization in Russia that traffics in a new breed of “information warfare.”

*snip*

The photo that purported to show people filling the street for Trump’s August 22 rally at the Phoenix Convention Center was actually taken at the Cleveland Cavaliers’ victory parade in 2016.

*snip*

The account, @TEN_GOP, used an avatar of the seal of the state of Tennessee and claimed to be an “unofficial” account of Tennessee Republicans.

phoenixnewtimes.com

This was five days before Trump pardoned Arpaio and just two months ago. We are still being rtfckd by the Russians.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:23:24pm

re: #38 TedStriker

As a Nashvillian and a Titans fan, I’ll take the W any way I can get it.

And I even refrain from calling them the Tennessee Oilers, like I call Baltimore the Baltimore Browns.

spell edit

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whitebeach  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:24:51pm

ON T for once.

James McMurtry should damn well know how to write a sad song. His dad Larry McMurtry wrote, among many other things, the novel Lonesome Dove.

Off T again.

For most of my life I was an agnostic. Then I learned that God really exists. His name is Drew Brees.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:27:15pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:28:58pm

re: #40 mmmirele

I remember that. They were called out immediately. By a lot of people. But of course. Some Trumpers insisted it was real (probably Russian trolls themselves).

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Charles Johnson  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:30:04pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:31:45pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:34:28pm

re: #266 Charles Johnson

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So Facebook allows threats like this on its forum? Can’t this be reported to the authorities?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:37:18pm

re: #47 Patricia Kayden

So Facebook allows threats like this on its forum? Can’t this be reported to the authorities?

It has been.

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ObserverArt  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:38:10pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ✔@Green_Footballs
Replying to @paleofuture @AdamWeinstein
I’ll never understand why Twitter allows this kind of ugliness to ruin their brand. It’s nightmarish.


4:27 PM - Oct 22, 2017

Are we sure they are not sympathetic to some of this White Nationalism crap?

I don’t know anything about their ownership, but it sure makes me wonder.

Same with idiot Zuckerberg.

If not sympathetic at least ‘soft’ enough to stand out of the way and try to not to judge so they just let it go on.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:40:52pm

re: #28 FormerDirtDart

Cephalopods’ intelligence allow them to understand and solve even complex problems

maybe they could explain the nuclear triad to resident rump

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:41:55pm

They’re at the very least indifferent.

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wrenchwench  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:44:51pm

re: #50 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

maybe they could explain the nuclear triad to resident rump

Is this what we are left with when the peepee tape goes away?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:45:32pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:45:38pm

She described it accurately.

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petesh  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:47:10pm

re: #49 ObserverArt

Are we sure they are not sympathetic to some of this White Nationalism crap?

I don’t know anything about their ownership, but it sure makes me wonder.

Same with idiot Zuckerberg.

If not sympathetic at least ‘soft’ enough to stand out of the way and try to not to judge so they just let it go on.

They Are The Future ™, according to them. See, pulling together links to existing websites and organizing peer-to-peer interactions over the net are such incredibly amazing feats that clearly anyone who can achieve them is a superperson who not only deserves tens of billions of dollars but can also solve all the problems that mere human philosophers, politicians, psychologists, etc etc have so far not succeeded in overcoming. /s if thou cannot guess.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:48:09pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:50:16pm

re: #49 ObserverArt

Are we sure they are not sympathetic to some of this White Nationalism crap?

I don’t know anything about their ownership, but it sure makes me wonder.

Same with idiot Zuckerberg.

If not sympathetic at least ‘soft’ enough to stand out of the way and try to not to judge so they just let it go on.

Their only concern is financial reward. I doubt they are actually sympathetic to these arguments —they just don’t care, unless it has a serious negative impact on their bottom line.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:52:40pm

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

She described it accurately.

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So they should fire that son of a bitch? Did she ask who the hell wants to talk politics in front of a group of by scouts? Maybe talk about sex on her boat to those same boys?

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:52:44pm

re: #9 HappyWarrior

Just as I thought though, Rep Wilson has been he subject of racist attacks because she dared to criticize Trump.

That’s par for the course in this country. The NHL player who raised his fist during the national anthem has been subjected to death threats to the point where he will no longer protest.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:54:06pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:54:28pm

Ha. Bill Clinton is presenting the trophies for the race winner, Lewis Hamilton and the other 2 podium places at the U.S. Grand Prix. And now he is hamming it up with Hamilton who seems to be having a good time with Clinton. Pictures being taken of course. Pretty cool. Way to go Bill.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:55:03pm

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

So what if she used obscenities? Trump used obscenities all during the campaign. Donald Trump Cursing Compilation

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:56:04pm

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

She described it accurately.

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Who the fuck cares? Trump curses all the time.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:56:50pm

re: #62 Patricia Kayden

And he is the biggest obscenity of all.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:57:04pm

re: #59 Patricia Kayden

That’s par for the course in this country. The NHL player who raised his fist during the national anthem has been subjected to death threats to the point where he will no longer protest.

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It’s so awful.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 22, 2017 • 1:59:36pm

re: #59 Patricia Kayden

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:01:53pm
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Teukka  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:02:56pm

re: #67 goddamnedfrank

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Todays #YouHadOneJob :)

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:05:18pm

re: #67 goddamnedfrank

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didn’t rick santorum warn that it would come to this???

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scottslemmons  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:05:19pm

re: #66 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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It kills me that we figured the end of WWII meant the Nazis were done for and just slacked off and let them win. Only bright point is that the human race will be extinct in another century.

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ObserverArt  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:05:48pm

re: #67 goddamnedfrank

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All they would have had to do was put the bone behind the heart, play with the sizes of each a bit and done. All the same elements, a totally different meaning.

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:09:39pm

re: #49 ObserverArt

Young lady? Do you recall what happened the last time people like you tried shit like this? No? Let me remind you. (Note: not for those with weak stomachs)

Hamburg in WWII - Bombing and Firestorm

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whitebeach  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:10:21pm

re: #70 scottslemmons

It kills me that we figured the end of WWII meant the Nazis were done for and just slacked off and let them win.

Same shit as happened after the Civil War.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:13:10pm

re: #72 Romantic Heretic

And we didn’t dare take the stance of “let’s hear them out.” that these idiots insist we do with the likes of Spencer today.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:14:40pm

re: #28 FormerDirtDart

If they ever form an alliance with the cats, we’re screwed

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Can you imagine something like that chasing the Laser?

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Citizen K  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:16:45pm

re: #59 Patricia Kayden

That’s par for the course in this country. The NHL player who raised his fist during the national anthem has been subjected to death threats to the point where he will no longer protest.

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Because of course…

America is an impossibly, impenetrably racist nation. It is a white country through and through it seems, and any attempt at inclusion past that will have you buried in the hate of centuries, and the power of hate is infinite. Daring to fight it just swallows you up in more hate and spite because they can keep it up forever, love can’t.

As you can tell, I’ve lost absolute faith in the ‘Love Trumps Hate’ bullshit.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:18:04pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:21:03pm

I really, really, really hope Trump does not go off script tomorrow.

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Citizen K  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:22:54pm

re: #78 FormerDirtDart

I really, really, really hope Trump does not go off script tomorrow.

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At some point, he’ll just award himself the medal, half the country will cheer and celebrate his ‘bravery’, and the media will question ‘is it about time Presidents were allowed to gift themselves medals?’. Oh, and try and find some untoward way a Dem awarded a medal that allows them to act like this is all normal somehow.

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scottslemmons  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:25:26pm

re: #76 Citizen K

Because of course…

America is an impossibly, impenetrably racist nation. It is a white country through and through it seems, and any attempt at inclusion past that will have you buried in the hate of centuries, and the power of hate is infinite. Daring to fight it just swallows you up in more hate and spite because they can keep it up forever, love can’t.

As you can tell, I’ve lost absolute faith in the ‘Love Trumps Hate’ bullshit.

I’m encouraged that there’s a lot of cultural change that I think will be hard to roll back. There are a lot of great comics with minority and women characters, for example, and I can’t see Marvel and DC putting some Nick Spencer type in charge so he can have Captain America kill black people and deport Ms. Marvel. I can’t see sci-fi publishers like Tor putting out books by Vox Day. I can’t imagine it’d be possible to say, “Okay, we’re going to have culture look exactly like it did in 1953.”

On the other hand, I do still think it’s too late to save the country, and we need to be either fleeing or helping vulnerable people escape. So I don’t know what the hell I think, I guess.

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Renaissance_Man  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:35:13pm

re: #80 scottslemmons

Throughout human history, we have done unbelievably awful things to each other. We have gone through events that defy belief in terms of human suffering. Human nature is not especially different now than it was during those times. Yet, despite all odds, the trend of human history is towards more enlightenment, not less. Despite the weaknesses of human nature, as a whole, humanity has moved forward. This trend will continue. Of course, in the short term, there will likely be a lot more suffering - the way forward is not always straight.

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whitebeach  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:39:19pm

re: #80 scottslemmons

On the other hand, I do still think it’s too late to save the country, and we need to be either fleeing or helping vulnerable people escape.

If you really don’t see any other options, then vaya con Dios.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:40:02pm

re: #63 HappyWarrior

Who the fuck cares? Trump curses all the time.

…but Jesus forgives him!

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:40:52pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

It has been.

Okay. Good to know. This is beyond crazy. I would hope an arrest is in order for making such a clear lynching threat.

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dangerman  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:41:37pm

re: #60 The Vicious Babushka

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She was quoting/paraphrasing gwb
He said it
She repeated it

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:43:19pm

re: #85 dangerman

Both are correct.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:43:44pm

re: #78 FormerDirtDart

He will.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:44:11pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:45:27pm

re: #26 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

He’s not the first Conservative to try to live in an imagined past.

Nope. Why, there was a fake Navy SEAL on Fox News just last week!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:45:29pm
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Semper Fi  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:45:45pm

re: #70 scottslemmons

It kills me that we figured the end of WWII meant the Nazis were done for and just slacked off and let them win. Only bright point is that the human race will be extinct in another century.

At the moment at least, we seem to be going in that direction. We’re just missing 1 or 2 more loonies to make it a sure thing.

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Citizen K  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:46:51pm

re: #91 Semper Fi

At the moment at least, we seem to be going in that direction. We’re just missing 1 or 2 more loonies to make it a sure thing.

You sure about that?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:47:38pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:50:24pm

re: #88 The Vicious Babushka

Hmmmm. Sounds a bit like that “Black Like Me” book from the 60s.

en.wikipedia.org

Just ask Muslims what’s going on in their communities instead of donning Brown face to pretend you’re one of them.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 22, 2017 • 2:58:34pm

re: #84 Patricia Kayden

Okay. Good to know. This is beyond crazy. I would hope an arrest is in order for making such a clear lynching threat.

I reported that ass Tom Keevers to Facebook as well. Appears that post has been removed from his page. But what remains on his page still proves that he’s a racist asshole and he was just added to my block list!

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dangerman  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:00:12pm

re: #93 goddamnedfrank

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Clearly that’s the good boy’s window…

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whitebeach  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:04:08pm

re: #93 goddamnedfrank

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They’ve had that look down cold for probably 15,000 years. Don’t be fooled.

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scottslemmons  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:04:56pm

re: #82 whitebeach

If you really don’t see any other options, then vaya con Dios.

Nah, I’m stuck here. No skills, no money. I just hope some of y’all will sneak a few good writers out of here when you go.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:05:03pm
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PhillyPretzel  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:06:26pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

Very sad to see this happen.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:06:44pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

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Dr. Stangelove is one of my fav movies.

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Citizen K  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:08:23pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

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But hey, it’s ok, isn’t it? After all, Pruitt’s EPA said we can survive 10 times more radiation than we thought we could during Obama, so we’ll all sure be able to live through the literal fallout, right?! Right?!

Fuck.

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whitebeach  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:12:31pm

re: #101 I Would Prefer Not To

Dr. Stangelove is one of my fav movies.

Fail-Safe wasn’t bad either. And On the Beach could tweak your heartstrings too.

I remember my little stepdaughter watching TV with me when the Berlin Wall came down. She asked me what it meant. I told her it meant she would never have to worry about a nuclear war. What an idiot I was.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:14:14pm

re: #102 Citizen K

This is what Pruitt wants to turn the masses into!

Gamma People, The Original Trailer

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dangerman  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:15:28pm

re: #102 Citizen K

But hey, it’s ok, isn’t it? After all, Pruitt’s EPA said we can survive 10 times more radiation than we thought we could during Obama, so we’ll all sure be able to live through the literal fallout, right?! Right?!

Fuck.

He’s gonna be out there standing next to us right?

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:16:01pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:16:22pm

re: #105 dangerman

He’s gonna be out there standing next to us right?

Fat chance. He’s going to be in Jim Bakker’s bunker munching on that moldy freeze-dried survival crap!

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steve_davis  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:16:58pm

re: #8 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

the next democratic congress should set aside a generous land grant where white supremacists and proponents of a totally free market devoid of those annoying “laws” and “regulations” will be free to live out their ideals and theories without bothering normal people

And we could call it South Carolina.

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William Lewis  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:19:13pm

re: #103 whitebeach

Fail-Safe wasn’t bad either. And On the Beach could tweak your heartstrings too.

Alas, Babylon & On the Beach were my two favorite novels from the early (Ie before we really understood how bad it would be) apocalyptic nuclear war novels. AB for a “Rah Rah We survived!” fantasy & OtB for utter & complete depression that made you want one of the pills the Aussies were handing out.

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William Lewis  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:19:59pm

re: #108 steve_davis

And we could call it South Carolina.

Robert Heinlein called it “Coventry”.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:24:06pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

Skilled leadership would have kept this unnecessary.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:27:50pm

re: #94 Patricia Kayden

Hmmmm. Sounds a bit like that “Black Like Me” book from the 60s.

en.wikipedia.org

Just ask Muslims what’s going on in their communities instead of donning Brown face to pretend you’re one of them.

I work in Dearborn FFS. There are Muslims all around me, at work, shopping. They do all the same things that I do.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:28:43pm

re: #108 steve_davis

And we could call it South Carolina.

“South Carolina: too small to be a country, too large to be an insane asylum.”— J. Pettigru.

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dangerman  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:38:32pm

re: #112 The Vicious Babushka

I work in Dearborn FFS. There are Muslims all around me, at work, shopping. They do all the same things that I do.

Yes i know what you meant…..
Still
Fwiw there are Muslims all around all of us
They don’t all wear signs 😁

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The Spite House  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:49:17pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

And we couldn’t even manage to get an administration that avoids using personal email accounts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:49:36pm

The dehydrator is getting a workout this evening.
The last shiitake harvest of the season (I haz a sad…another huge rain stating tonight with gloriously mushroom friendly warmness…but morning temp on Wednesday is forecast to be 35F, so the shrooms will come to a screeching halt for the nonce) has been sliced up and completely filled five trays.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:50:06pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

Guess it’s time to move that Doomsday clock up again…

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:50:14pm

On C-SPAN McCain says, “One aspect of the (Vietnam) conflict by the way that I will never ever countenance is that we drafted the lowest income level of America and the highest income level found a doctor that would say that they had a bone spur. That is wrong. That is wrong. If we are going to ask every American to serve, every American should serve.”

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:52:20pm

re: #110 William Lewis

Robert Heinlein called it “Coventry”.

thanks for the tip! i just got the kindle edition which also contains ‘if this goes on -‘

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Citizen K  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:54:14pm

re: #114 dangerman

Yes i know what you meant…..
Still
Fwiw there are Muslims all around all of us
They don’t all wear signs 😁

Not yet anyway. Just give Trump and his cadre time….

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Skip Intro  Oct 22, 2017 • 3:56:10pm

re: #118 FormerDirtDart

Or anal cyst.

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whitebeach  Oct 22, 2017 • 4:00:38pm

re: #94 Patricia Kayden

Hmmmm. Sounds a bit like that “Black Like Me” book from the 60s.

Except that the reporter who wrote Black Like Me didn’t have to pretend to much of anything else. He simple darkened his skin and the world changed dramatically for him. It was a pretty good piece of journalism, especially for the time.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 22, 2017 • 4:01:16pm

Well, Donny has something to tweet about

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BeachDem  Oct 22, 2017 • 4:03:10pm

re: #108 steve_davis

And we could call it South Carolina.

Hey!!

Give ‘em Idaho or one of the Dakotas…or Kansas, yeah, give ‘em Kansas. They don’t need a beach.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 22, 2017 • 4:04:02pm

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

The dehydrator is getting a workout this evening.
The last shiitake harvest of the season (I haz a sad…another huge rain stating tonight with gloriously mushroom friendly warmness…but morning temp on Wednesday is forecast to be 35F, so the shrooms will come to a screeching halt for the nonce) has been sliced up and completely filled five trays.

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Your pancakes are overcooked.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2017 • 4:04:37pm

How scary is this thought:

Trump wants to drop nukes because it would set him apart from other Presidents.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 22, 2017 • 4:04:52pm

re: #122 whitebeach

Except that the reporter who wrote Black Like Me didn’t have to pretend to much of anything else. He simple darkened his skin and the world changed dramatically for him. It was a pretty good piece of journalism, especially for the time.

And I remember that my home town library banned that book as…you guessed it“Communist propaganda”!

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austin_blue  Oct 22, 2017 • 4:04:57pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

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It’ll take a LOT of money to regenerate a nuclear alert capability again. When I was at K. I. Sawyer AFB, we had six alert lines of two planes, a paired bomber and a tanker. So, 60 pilots, naviguessers, bombardiers, gunners, and ECM crews. We were all housed in the Alert Shack. It hasn’t been used in 26 years and will have to repaired and upgraded. Not living with us, but a daily presence, were cooks, security crews, daily briefers, weapons handlers, drivers, comm teams and Ops and Field Maintenance crew.

We would have to pull all of the mothballed B-52 H’s out of Davis-Monthan and get them back to Emergency War Order status, including remounting the 20 mm Gatling gun in the tail, returning and upgrading the ECM suite, training new Gunners and ECM operators, upgrade comms and nav suites, etc.

It’ll take months and a shitpot of money.

The reason that the Buffs were taken off of alert status in the first place was that we figured we could get by on the other two legs of the triad and use the B-2s as the nuclear bomber force, and use the Buff as a conventional platform, along with the B-1B.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 22, 2017 • 4:05:43pm

re: #126 Eclectic Cyborg

How scary is this thought:

Trump wants to drop nukes because it would set him apart from other Presidents.

So would getting impeached, convicted, and removed from office.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 22, 2017 • 4:06:19pm

re: #129 Blind Frog Belly White

Actually, even more so because he’d be the second to drop nukes, but the first removed from office.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 22, 2017 • 4:06:58pm

I was in awe when I first saw a B-1 fly over Los Angeles…and I didn’t even hear it…just saw it moving through the sky…

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whitebeach  Oct 22, 2017 • 4:07:01pm

re: #108 steve_davis

And we could call it South Carolina.

What, is Texas suddenly out of commission? They’ve already got all the amenities in place. Let the South Carolinians move to freakin Lubbock.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 22, 2017 • 4:10:04pm

Well, it got up to 95 here in Los Angeles. We’re going into the 100’s tomorrow and Tuesday. Now just imagine being in Dodger Stadium for Game 1 and it’s 100 degrees!

But remember folks!!!!! Scott Pruitt assures you that there is no such thing as Global Warming!

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 22, 2017 • 4:13:41pm

re: #126 Eclectic Cyborg

How scary is this thought:

Trump wants to drop nukes because it would set him apart from other Presidents.

Couldn’t he just go out and masturbate on the front lawn? That would set him apart without all the damage and death.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 22, 2017 • 4:17:15pm

re: #134 Eventual Carrion

Couldn’t he just go out and masturbate on the front lawn? That would set him apart without all the damage and death.

There’s a limit to what Viagra can do. Ask Limbaugh… 😉

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2017 • 4:24:27pm

re: #126 Eclectic Cyborg

How scary is this thought:

Trump wants to drop nukes because it would set him apart from other Presidents.

Truman already beat him to that

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2017 • 4:25:27pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah but Trump probably thinks he can do a better job than Truman did.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2017 • 4:33:40pm

re: #128 austin_blue

The reason that the Buffs were taken off of alert status in the first place was that we figured we could get by on the other two legs of the triad and use the B-2s as the nuclear bomber force, and use the Buff as a conventional platform, along with the B-1B.

That would be the Triad that the yam had no idea when asked about it during the campaign, instead he went off on one of his patented unrelated tangents.

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Citizen K  Oct 22, 2017 • 4:34:18pm

re: #137 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah but Trump probably thinks he can do a better job than Truman did.

Well, the difference will be Truman used nukes to end a war.

Trump will use them to start one.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 22, 2017 • 4:37:14pm

re: #132 whitebeach

What, is Texas suddenly out of commission? They’ve already got all the amenities in place. Let the South Carolinians move to freakin Lubbock.

As Anymouse suggested, we would need an emergency airlift for the local liberals. I volunteer to borrow a Cessna 208 and do it in one flight, dogs and all. Most of Texas Tech can be left there, especially the various Austrian-school business programs, while the hopelessly liberal residue is moved to Snyder in a couple of U-Haul trucks.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 22, 2017 • 4:42:54pm

re: #28 FormerDirtDart

That octopus couldn’t be that smart, they got it in the jar. Cats, on the other hand…

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darthstar  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:13:25am

Love James McMurtry. He’s got a lot of dark in his songs. Levelland, Out Here in the Middle, No More Buffalo…great lyrics though.

And Choctaw Bingo is fuckin’ fantastic.


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