Myeshia Johnson Confirms Rep. Frederica Wilson’s Account: Trump ‘Couldn’t Remember My Husband’s Name’

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Donald Trump and John Kelly viciously attacked Rep. Frederica Wilson, called her a liar and set the right wing mob on her.

But now we know who was really lying — as Myeshia Johnson confirms Wilson’s account and says Trump couldn’t even remember her husband’s name.

Myeshia Johnson, the widow of slain U.S. Army Sgt. La David Johnson, confirmed Rep. Frederica Wilson’s account of her phone call with President Donald Trump on Monday.

During an interview with ABC’s Good Morning America, Johnson said that Trump didn’t seem to know her husband’s name when he talked with her on the phone.

“He couldn’t remember my husband’s name,” Johnson said. “That’s what hurt me the most.”

Johnson told host George Stephanopoulos that Trump’s words during the phone call made her feel “very upset.”

“It made me cry even worse,” she said.

Johnson also defended Rep. Wilson by saying that the congresswoman didn’t fabricate or exaggerate any details of her call with the president.

“Whatever she said was not fabricated,” Johnson said of Wilson. “What she said was 100 percent correct.”

When asked by Stephanopoulos if she had anything to say to Trump now, Johnson simply responded, “No, I don’t have nothing to say to him.”

What an absolute disgrace for this craven, dishonest White House.

UPDATE at 10/23/17 5:58:48 am by Charles Johnson

And now, Trump is calling Myeshia Johnson a liar too.

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326 comments

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:54:14am

And of course he starts the day calling her a liar

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:54:51am

He just can’t let anything go.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:55:06am

The Trumpettes and Putinbots have cranked it up to 11 already.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:55:12am

SUPPORT THE TROOPS! LIARS!!

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:56:07am

The 2017 version of spitting on our troops.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:56:27am

Anyone who attacks her should be ashamed of themselves. Except for Trump’s supporters jockstraps who have no feeling for anyone not in their clique

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makeitstop  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:59:26am

This guy wins the acronym contest.

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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:00:05am

re: #1 The Vicious Babushka

And of course he starts the day calling her a liar

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once again THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES is publicly targeting an individual citizen using the power and media tools of his office

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:02:12am

Welp. Here come the attacks on her but hey don’t call Trump voters deplorable.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:10:13am

One of these days Trump is going to screw up and attack a white Gold Star family member.

1/2 //

Disgusting.

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S'latch  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:12:48am

Thanks. I was wondering why I hadn’t heard her side yet.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:14:12am

re: #10 b.d. (bill d.)

One of these days Trump is going to screw up and attack a white Gold Star family member.

1/2 //

Disgusting.

And when he does that his supporters will still be in attack mode saying that the family involved isn’t Christian!

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:15:44am

I wonder what demeaning little nickname Trump will assign to Mrs. Johnson.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:18:43am

Fresh new thread, sad old man as angry baby President. Unable to come up with empathy for a grieving woman. Malevolence is showing.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:19:16am
I had a very respectful conversation with the widow of [checks name on card]…, uh, Sgt. La David Johnson, and spoke his name from beginning, without hesitation!
— Donald J. Trump

Fixed

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Sir John Barron  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:20:21am

re: #1 The Vicious Babushka

I had a very respectful conversation with the widow of Sgt. La David Johnson, and spoke his name from beginning, without hesitation!
— Donald J. Trump

For some reason, the [!] he sticks in at the end is the most cringing part of this tweet.

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lawhawk  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:20:27am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. Trump lies. Trump bullies. He projects. He bloviates. Also, Trump obfuscates and deflects so that people are focusing on X when they should be focusing on Y.

Trump plays the media, and the media simply gives up on asking the tough questions.

Media outlets have given up asking Trump about his tax returns.

Yes, those tax returns are important, but so is why FEMA promised 25% power restored on Puerto Rico and yet barely 20% have power restored more than a month after Maria hit.

Millions are without power and safe drinking water, and Trump spends more time golfing and tweeting than he does making all available assets available to restore basic services in Puerto Rico or the USVI.

In fact, it looks like there’s issues with FEMA in Texas and Florida as well, so the 10 out of 10 must be on a curve, where 10 points were added because Trump likes round numbers.

Other questions the media must ask:

Trump’s tax scheme also apparently includes significant changes to the 401k maximum, which means that for millions of Americans who rely on this program for retirement savings, Trump’s gunning to use your retirement to fund corporate tax cuts and tax cuts for millionaires like himself.

Trump/GOP wants to reduce the threshold from $17,000 (set aside the catchup provision for those over a certain age), to as little as $2,000. That means if you’re making $75,000 and try to set aside 5% of your income in retirement savings, you’d get hit with taxes for the amount over $2,000: in this case $1,750 would be taxed at your effective tax rate.

So, this would be a major tax hit for anyone trying to save for retirement, all so that millionaires get bigger tax breaks.

Trump and GOP are gaming the system so that rich get richer, and everyone else gets the burdens.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:29:10am

Cursory glances at RWNJ reaction, the term “thug widow” is coming up.

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Weaselone  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:29:35am

re: #17 lawhawk

I haven’t had time to dig into this. Do you know whether they’re also planning to do the same to IRA and IRA Roth Accounts?

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Citizen K  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:29:37am

re: #8 dangerman

once again THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES is publicly targeting an individual citizen using the power and media tools of his office

But remember he was totally presidential and empathetic, even moreso than Rep Wilson, that gaudy harpy!

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Amory Blaine  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:34:24am

re: #19 Weaselone

I haven’t had time to dig into this. Do you know whether they’re also planning to do the same to IRA and IRA Roth Accounts?

If I know my history, Roth IRA will be untouched as millions flock to use them. Then in ten years, the owner class will instruct their minions to enact a patriot fee or other vehicle to sponge the money they want out of those accounts.

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scottslemmons  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:35:19am

re: #1 The Vicious Babushka

And of course he starts the day calling her a liar

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From the beginning, I figured it was only a matter of time before he started attacking the widow. Up next: attacking the dead soldiers.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:35:28am

re: #18 Amory Blaine

Cursory glances at RWNJ reaction, the term “thug widow” is coming up.

Oh of course. She’s a thug because she’s black.

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Citizen K  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:36:37am

re: #22 scottslemmons

From the beginning, I figured it was only a matter of time before he started attacking the widow. Up next: attacking the dead soldiers.

Over/under on how long it’ll take the media, especially the NYTimes, will start treating it like a thing of normal debate and find Dem instances of ‘disrespecting the troops’ to counterbalance?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:36:50am

re: #22 scottslemmons

From the beginning, I figured it was only a matter of time before he started attacking the widow. Up next: attacking the dead soldiers.

Didn’t some of them suggest that Capt Khan was an undercover terrorist?

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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:37:10am

re: #1 The Vicious Babushka

And of course he starts the day calling her a liar

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I had a very respectful conversation with the widow of Sgt. La David Johnson, and spoke his name from beginning, without hesitation!

Yeah like a sane rational person would need to say this
Over and over and over
Sad!

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makeitstop  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:38:05am

As if this situation wasn’t ugly enough.

What’s on Man-Baby’s schedule today? I guess what ever it is, we’ll have to wait for him to vent for 5 10 20 minutes on how all of this is so unfair to him.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:38:09am

I don’t believe for a second that he “forgot” the name, because he is incapable of such memorization. It’s worse - it was right there in front of him and he couldn’t even read the name.

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lawhawk  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:41:04am

re: #19 Weaselone

At this point, I don’t think they’re going to touch those retirement accounts. Money managers and investment houses have been touting the Roths as a better choice than the original IRA since they are untaxed on the back end (original IRA is tax free to start, but you pay tax on distributions).

With 401ks, they’re looking to totally fuck over people who use them as their primary retirement vehicle since the money is deducted directly from their paychecks and millions of people use it to try and save enough for retirement (and most still fail to do that). This hurts anyone trying to get ahead and save for retirement.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:41:25am

And here come the worst garbage people in the world:

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Amory Blaine  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:42:29am

Myeshia Johnson did some heavy lifting for the nation this Monday morning. The burdens she must bear will last a lifetime. I hope that she and her family can find peace soon.

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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:43:09am

re: #8 dangerman

once again THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES is publicly targeting an individual citizen using the power and media tools of his office

And I will add that it’s over a stupid petty dispute that has nothing to do with policy or governing

And not even dispute. That legitimizes and bothsiders it

It was a stupid petty faux pas on his part.
A mench would have fixed it bright quick
A mench he is not

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lawhawk  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:44:48am

re: #30 The Vicious Babushka

Of course Joe Walsh would come a calling - fleas to the rabid dog Trump. Trump most certainly attacked Mrs. Johnson. Trump’s right wing flunkies attacked Johnson. Trump’s chief of staff lied about Rep. Wilson and her account of the phone call.

It’s all this admin does.

They lie.

And Walsh still doesn’t pay his obligations to his family for support.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:45:28am

re: #30 The Vicious Babushka

The right has turned her into fair game. Cindy Sheehan comes to mind. Fucking monsters.

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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:46:10am

re: #28 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I don’t believe for a second that he “forgot” the name, because he is incapable of such memorization. It’s worse - it was right there in front of him and he couldn’t even read the name.

I think he couldn’t believe it was a real name
Because:
I don’t know anyone who names their kid that”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:46:34am
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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:48:20am

re: #30 The Vicious Babushka

And here come the worst garbage people in the world:

[Embedded content]Yes, Myeshia Johnson has a right to speak. But now that she’s gotten political, we have a right to attack her.

“Attack her

while not in any way dispute the truth of what she is saying

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:48:23am

Once Trump releases his “proof” of that phone call, that he claims he has, then everything should be settled…

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Sir John Barron  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:50:24am

re: #18 Amory Blaine

Cursory glances at RWNJ reaction, the term “thug widow” is coming up.

Here’s my shocked face….

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Sir John Barron  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:51:10am

re: #24 Citizen K

Over/under on how long it’ll take the media, especially the NYTimes, will start treating it like a thing of normal debate and find Dem instances of ‘disrespecting the troops’ to counterbalance?

“Trump is successfully moving the debate onto the widow!”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:52:19am

re: #30 The Vicious Babushka

And here come the worst garbage people in the world:

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Sir John Barron  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:53:30am

re: #30 The Vicious Babushka

Yes, Myeshia Johnson has a right to speak. But now that she’s gotten political, we have a right to attack her.
— Joe Walsh

Oh, deadbeat dad actually tweeted this.

“We have a right to attack [her, him, anyone who attacks our MAGA”

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Weaselone  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:55:22am

re: #21 Amory Blaine

If I know my history, Roth IRA will be untouched as millions flock to use them. Then in ten years, the owner class will instruct their minions to enact a patriot fee or other vehicle to sponge the money they want out of those accounts.

Maybe, but I suspect it’s unlikely. The wealthy like to dump in highly leveraged assets into IRAs to avoid taxes when they appreciate.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:55:43am

re: #30 The Vicious Babushka

Yes, Myeshia Johnson has a right to speak. But now that she’s gotten political, we have a right to attack her.
— Joe Walsh

I believe I have located the essential wingnut philosophy boiled down to one statement.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:56:16am

re: #30 The Vicious Babushka

And here come the worst garbage people in the world:

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She didn’t get “political” you turd. She told what happened on the phone call. But this isn’t the first time you’ve attacked a woman with more love of country than yourself is it Joe?

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:56:18am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:00:34am

They’re proving they’re a cult. Myeshia confirms that Rep. Wilson’s account of the events and doesn’t do the narrative they want her to do- kiss Trump’s ass and insult Rep. Wilson and now she’s fair game for attack for them. I have to say this. While I disliked the mother of the one man who died at Benghazi attacking HRC at the RNC, I am glad the Democrats did not attack her. She suffered. And while I think her anger at HRC was misplaced and the last place she should have been was at the party convention for the party who cut embassy and consultant security funding, it would have been ghoulish to attack her for that.

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I cannot.  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:00:56am

My property taxes, with the “service fee” is $666 and change…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:02:05am

re: #46 b.d. (bill d.)

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I enjoyed seeing the photos of them as a family. Beautiful family. I could easily see why Rep. Wilson was so proud of her role mentoring La David. He seemed like a great soldier but more importantly a great husband and father.

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ObserverArt  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:02:23am

re: #31 Amory Blaine

Myeshia Johnson did some heavy lifting for the nation this Monday morning. The burdens she must bear will last a lifetime. I hope that she and her family can find peace soon.

I give her credit for going public. She had to know the attacks will come because they always do for Black people. She must be as strong as her husband to do this.

And as far as anyone being a thug, it’s the Orange Criminal squatting in the White House.

I don’t know if many actual thugs get it together to become a decorated special ops U.S. Army Green Beret.

Fucking Trump is acting like he was the one with the loss in all of this. He’s crying more then the widow.

Again, Donny did this all to himself. He scrambled to answer whether he had contacted the families knowing he hadn’t and it was all downhill from there because he had to lie instead of saying something as simple as no he had not and we are working on that.

Isn’t this the guy that said he had the best brain, the best education, the best negotiator. He sucks as far as quick thinking on his feet. If anything he may be the best liar ever in the White House.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:03:52am

re: #48 I cannot.

My property taxes, with the “service fee” is $666 and change…

You clearly live on a hellmouth.

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(Bert the Turtle)  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:04:00am

re: #44 Sir John Barron

I believe I have located the essential wingnut philosophy boiled down to one statement.

Mind if I steal that?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:04:58am

Another day, and President ManBaby is on the attack against private citizens who dare to criticize him. This asshole is the most thin-skinned, whining toddler to have sat behind the desk at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. It’s utterly revolting.

And his supporters lap it up - I can only safely conclude that they are thin-skinned, whining, overgrown toddlers as well, “adults” with the emotional maturity of ill-tempered two-year-olds throwing a temper tantrum. As a matter of fact, I’d daresay that Trump’s election represents nothing less than a collective temper tantrum from a not-insignificant share of the electorate.

Anyway, on a different note, I’m off to a Jodo Shinshu retreat in Warsaw this Friday for the weekend. Looking forward to it - should help clear the mind and the spirit.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:05:23am

re: #48 I cannot.

My property taxes, with the “service fee” is $666 and change…

The Neighbor of the Beast!!

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S'latch  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:06:40am

Trump just tweeted that he “had a very respectful conversation with the widow of Sgt. La David Johnson, and spoke his name from beginning, without hesitation!”

He has no plans to communicate further with Sgt. Johnson’s widow after basically calling her a liar.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:06:54am

re: #47 HappyWarrior

They’re proving they’re a cult. Myeshia confirms that Rep. Wilson’s account of the events and doesn’t do the narrative they want her to do- kiss Trump’s ass and insult Rep. Wilson and now she’s fair game for attack for them. I have to say this. While I disliked the mother of the one man who died at Benghazi attacking HRC at the RNC, I am glad the Democrats did not attack her. She suffered. And while I think her anger at HRC was misplaced and the last place she should have been was at the party convention for the party who cut embassy and consultant security funding, it would have been ghoulish to attack her for that.

FWIW, I was appalled…at her being used by the RNC to attack Hillary Clinton. Just like I feel the widow of the Navy Seal was used at the Joint Adress/SOTU earlier this year. “..set a record…” Presidential my ass.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:07:24am

re: #9 HappyWarrior

Welp. Here come the attacks on her but hey don’t call Trump voters deplorable.

She’ll probably be up to 50 death threats by noon.

(I WISH I were joking)

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Interesting Times  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:07:56am

re: #54 Dr Lizardo

Glad to see you here, because I wanted to ask you - WTF just happened in your own country? o_O This is horrifying:

Czech President holds up replica Ak-47 marked ‘for journalists’ in press conference

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:08:45am

re: #56 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

FWIW, I was appalled…at her being used by the RNC to attack Hillary Clinton. Just like I feel the widow of the Navy Seal was used at the Joint Adress/SOTU earlier this year. “..set a record…” Presidential my ass.

I was too but I’m glad she wasn’t attacked for that. It was very cynical especially given Ambassador Stevens family’s begging the GOP to stop using their loved one’s death to push bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:09:07am

re: #57 Eclectic Cyborg

She’ll probably be up to 50 death threats by noon.

(I WISH I were joking)

I know. This country man.

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ObserverArt  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:09:16am

re: #47 HappyWarrior

They’re proving they’re a cult. Myeshia confirms that Rep. Wilson’s account of the events and doesn’t do the narrative they want her to do- kiss Trump’s ass and insult Rep. Wilson and now she’s fair game for attack for them. I have to say this. While I disliked the mother of the one man who died at Benghazi attacking HRC at the RNC, I am glad the Democrats did not attack her. She suffered. And while I think her anger at HRC was misplaced and the last place she should have been was at the party convention for the party who cut embassy and consultant security funding, it would have been ghoulish to attack her for that.

And if the Democrats would even attempt to use Myeshia Johnson in any type of political statement for the party we would hear how politically craven it was to use the death of a soldier for political gain. How dare the Democrats stoop so low.

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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:10:36am

re: #48 I cannot.

My property taxes, with the “service fee” is $666 and change…

Stan Collender: “The U.S. Treasury Department reported last Friday that the federal budget deficit for the just-completed fiscal year had risen by $80 billion over fiscal 2016 to the ominous-sounding $666 billion, a number many people think is an omen for the coming of the devil or anti-Christ.”

“In this case they may be right: The spending and taxing policies about to be put in place by the Trump administration and the Republican-controlled Congress will balloon the federal deficit to $1 trillion or more every year going forward

From Link

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:12:20am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:12:21am

I despise the Trump cult more than Trump himself and here’s why. Trump would just be another asshole on Twitter if they hadn’t voted for him first in the GOP primaries and then the GE. They own this along with the Republican establishment who is too chickenshit and daydreaming about Reagan cutting their taxes on a majestic white horse to care about the party of fanatics they’ve coddled.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:12:54am

re: #58 Interesting Times

Glad to see you here, because I wanted to ask you - WTF just happened in your own country? o_O This is horrifying:

Czech President holds up replica Ak-47 marked ‘for journalists’ in press conference

Zeman is a bit of a nut, to be honest. He despises journalists because they dare to ask him questions.

He’s running for re-election in January……that is, if he makes it that long. I happened to catch some brief appearance of his on Czech TV and to be blunt, I was shocked at how bad he looked. My immediate thought was, “My God, he has cancer or something.”

It’s widespread speculation here that he may well be terminally ill and he’s hiding it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:14:01am

I know this has been posted already but it has to be looked at even more. The travel ban on Chad and their subsequent action of pulling troops out of the fight in Niger against Boko Haram. Article was Oct. 13. States they’ve been pulling troops out the past 2 weeks. That lines up with the ambush on our guys right smack dab of the middle of it.

voanews.com

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:17:17am

re: #57 Eclectic Cyborg

She’ll probably be up to 50 death threats by noon.

(I WISH I were joking)

Including the twitter tough guys, my hunch is that you’ll be at least one zero off. I also wish the same.

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bratwurst  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:17:23am

This is me out of bed in a bad mood, especially with fuckwits called Glenn.

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scottslemmons  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:18:21am

re: #64 HappyWarrior

I despise the Trump cult more than Trump himself and here’s why. Trump would just be another asshole on Twitter if they hadn’t voted for him first in the GOP primaries and then the GE. They own this along with the Republican establishment who is too chickenshit and daydreaming about Reagan cutting their taxes on a majestic white horse to care about the party of fanatics they’ve coddled.

At this point, Trump’s supporters/cultists have shown their primary goal is a racist theocracy that owes more to Russia and Nazi Germany than it does to America. They’ll only be happy when America is dead, and we should stop treating them as people with differing political opinions.

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makeitstop  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:18:30am

re: #66 GlutenFreeJesus

I know this has been posted already but it has to be looked at even more. The travel ban on Chad and their subsequent action of pulling troops out of the fight in Niger against Boko Haram. Article was Oct. 13. States they’ve been pulling troops out the past 2 weeks. That lines up with the ambush on our guys right smack dab of the middle of it.

voanews.com

I’ve seen speculation saying that if the Chadian military wanted to, they could give our guys a lot of trouble. Those guys are tough as nails.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:28:11am

re: #69 scottslemmons

At this point, Trump’s supporters/cultists have shown their primary goal is a racist theocracy that owes more to Russia and Nazi Germany than it does to America. They’ll only be happy when America is dead, and we should stop treating them as people with differing political opinions.

They’re just awful people and I get really annoyed with the excuses made for them made by people on our own side no less.I’m sorry but they were given a choice. They chose NOT to listen to Hillary because they didn’t want to hear her message.

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Citizen K  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:29:02am

re: #69 scottslemmons

At this point, Trump’s supporters/cultists have shown their primary goal is a racist theocracy that owes more to Russia and Nazi Germany than it does to America. They’ll only be happy when America is dead, and we should stop treating them as people with differing political opinions.

Tell that to the media who continues to treat them as literally the only opinions that matter.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:31:28am

re: #30 The Vicious Babushka

And here come the worst garbage people in the world:

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Uh, attack her for what?

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:31:54am

re: #9 HappyWarrior

Welp. Here come the attacks on her but hey don’t call Trump voters deplorable.

And let it be known that Black NFL players are the ones who disrespect our military when they engage in peaceful protests.

This is the second Gold Star family of color which Trump has publicly disrespected.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:33:44am

re: #73 Mike Lamb

Uh, attack her for what?

For contradicting Dear Leader.

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Citizen K  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:34:04am

re: #74 Patricia Kayden

And let it be known that Black NFL players are the ones who disrespect our military when they engage in peaceful protests.

This is the second Gold Star family of color which Trump has publicly disrespected.

See, the problem is you’re treating People of Color as Americans. Most of the country absolutely knows you can’t be a PoC and actually be an American, thus, fair game! //////

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:37:37am

re: #73 Mike Lamb

Uh, attack her for what?

Telling the truth.

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makeitstop  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:44:27am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:44:36am

re: #73 Mike Lamb

Uh, attack her for what?

Not going along with Trump and agreeing with the “crazy” lady with the hats.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:45:39am

re: #52 (Bert the Turtle)

Mind if I steal that?

Be my guest, the more the merrier.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:48:01am
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Belafon  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:49:32am

re: #81 The Vicious Babushka

I have to ask, for those of us who can’t twitter at work, what is in the picture?

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makeitstop  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:52:33am

re: #82 Belafon

I have to ask, for those of us who can’t twitter at work, what is in the picture?

Joe Walsh (the untalented one), once again proving the TATFE (there’s a tweet for everything) Principle.

After bitching that he’s not allowed to attack a Gold Star widow, someone found a tweet applauding a Dem losing his job for…attacking a Gold Star widow.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:53:53am

re: #81 The Vicious Babushka

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The difference Joe is we criticized Kelly for lying. She isn’t lying. STFU for once and maybe actually spend time with your kids rather than being a rancid piece of shit on Twitter all the time.

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ObserverArt  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:55:21am

re: #84 HappyWarrior

The difference Joe is we criticized Kelly for lying. She isn’t lying. STFU for once and maybe actually spend time with your kids rather than being a rancid piece of shit on Twitter all the time.

Unpossible.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:56:25am

re: #82 Belafon

I have to ask, for those of us who can’t twitter at work, what is in the picture?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:56:58am

What is there to attack her for? Oh that she verified that her and family felt disrespected by Trump. That she’s on Rep Wilson’s side over Kelly and Trump? Yeah how dare her. Maybe just maybe there’s something wrong with Trump wingnuts but moreover maybe there’s something wrong with you that you continue to support this heartless bastard despite all evidence showing he has no Presidential gravitas.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:57:44am

re: #85 ObserverArt

Unpossible.

He talks a lot of shit for someone who did nothing but bitch at Obama in Congress.

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Belafon  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:00:14am

re: #86 The Vicious Babushka

So, there IS something different about Myeshia Johnson that makes it easy for Joe and others to target her.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:00:15am

re: #84 HappyWarrior

The difference Joe is we criticized Kelly for lying. She isn’t lying. STFU for once and maybe actually spend time with your kids rather than being a rancid piece of shit on Twitter all the time.

Probably best for his kids if he doesn’t spend a lot of time with them.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:00:37am

re: #30 The Vicious Babushka

And here come the worst garbage people in the world:

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“She got political” - by simply describing the call.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:03:25am

re: #64 HappyWarrior

I despise the Trump cult more than Trump himself and here’s why. Trump would just be another asshole on Twitter if they hadn’t voted for him first in the GOP primaries and then the GE. They own this along with the Republican establishment who is too chickenshit and daydreaming about Reagan cutting their taxes on a majestic white horse to care about the party of fanatics they’ve coddled.

They are dangerous.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:05:00am

re: #90 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Probably best for his kids if he doesn’t spend a lot of time with them.

Good point.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:05:46am

re: #91 Blind Frog Belly White

“She got political” - by simply describing the call.

Yep. It took a lot of guts for her to speak out given the Trump cult.

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Interesting Times  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:06:21am
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ObserverArt  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:08:01am

re: #88 HappyWarrior

He talks a lot of shit for someone who did nothing but bitch at Obama in Congress.

Just another angry White asshole guy. There is a lot of that going around.

For a group of humans that are supposedly superior/supreme and have all the brain power they sure bitch a lot. Wait until they figure out it was other White guys that put them in the positions they are bitching about.

Yep, the second they figure out they have been trickled down upon by other White guys that have the power over them they will be so pissed.

Uh, maybe they figure it out in a minute, err an hour…maybe today, tomorrow…next week, month…year? Nah, too stupid to figure it out.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:08:45am

Dafuq? These things are not the same. A four start general is an especially talented hireling. A Gold Star family gave a loved one for the country.

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Belafon  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:13:06am

re: #97 Blind Frog Belly White

Joe, you’re not offering criticism, you attacking a person.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:15:50am

re: #97 Blind Frog Belly White

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Dafuq? These things are not the same. A four start general is an especially talented hireling. A Gold Star family gave a loved one for the country.

He certainly did attack her by attacking her family friend Rep Wilson as a liar. And as for the call being private, she has every right to publicize it. Joe needs to shut the fuck up. And once again Kelly wasn’t criticized for being a four star general, he was criticized for outright lying about Wilson. But Joe knows that. He just hates women because he’s too stupid to do anything right but thinks he should get everything handed to him because he’s a white dude with a penis.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:16:02am

Tested out Tweetdeck’s new edit function.
I guess it “works”
Basically deletes the tweet and moves text, links, images back to the compose window.. After editing sends it out as a new tweet.
Loses any like/retweets. I would guess it wipes out any of the analytics data for the tweet too.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:16:14am

If the Conventional Wisdom didn’t see this coming, the Conventional Wisdom is really dumb. MSNBC struggled during Obama, because it had to defend the party in power. Now the RW media struggle because they have to defend not only the party in power, but a President worse than most people could have imagined.

Basically people are more drawn to the voice of resistance than to state media.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:16:49am

re: #98 Belafon

Joe, you’re not offering criticism, you attacking a person.

Exactly. And honestly what’s there to attack her for? She felt disrespected by Trump’s phone call. She has a right to feel that way.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:17:45am

re: #101 Blind Frog Belly White

If the Conventional Wisdom didn’t see this coming, the Conventional Wisdom is really dumb. MSNBC struggled during Obama, because it had to defend the party in power. Now the RW media struggle because they have to defend not only the party in power, but a President worse than most people could have imagined.

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Basically people are more drawn to the voice of resistance than to state media.

Right, I remember Rush’s ratings being down in the Bush years.

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Renaissance_Man  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:19:27am

re: #101 Blind Frog Belly White

If the Conventional Wisdom didn’t see this coming, the Conventional Wisdom is really dumb. MSNBC struggled during Obama, because it had to defend the party in power. Now the RW media struggle because they have to defend not only the party in power, but a President worse than most people could have imagined.

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Basically people are more drawn to the voice of resistance than to state media.

Unfortunately, that graph also shows that there are branches of state media that are continuing to see increases, thus justifying their defense of the indefensible. Notably, FOX, CNN and the NYT all got rewarded for normalising dictatorship and fascism.

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JordanRules  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:21:04am

re: #104 Renaissance_Man

That was my sad takeaway too.

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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:21:21am

re: #84 HappyWarrior

The difference Joe is we criticized Kelly for lying. She isn’t lying. STFU for once and maybe actually spend time with your kids rather than being a rancid piece of shit on Twitter all the time.

reasons, reasoning, logic, etc are no longer relevant
no minds will be changed and this isnt about that anymore
“we” simply are not and cannot be wrong

it’s tribal - us vs them

therefore the use of “attack”

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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:22:47am

re: #91 Blind Frog Belly White

“She got political” - by simply describing the call.

because the truth of it made him look bad
and he cannot under any circumstances look bad

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scottslemmons  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:23:01am

re: #101 Blind Frog Belly White

If the Conventional Wisdom didn’t see this coming, the Conventional Wisdom is really dumb. MSNBC struggled during Obama, because it had to defend the party in power. Now the RW media struggle because they have to defend not only the party in power, but a President worse than most people could have imagined.

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Basically people are more drawn to the voice of resistance than to state media.

One of the replies to that tweet mentions that the drop in conservative media could be attributed to the Russians sending fewer bots to the wingnut sites.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:24:23am

re: #101 Blind Frog Belly White

If the Conventional Wisdom didn’t see this coming, the Conventional Wisdom is really dumb. MSNBC struggled during Obama, because it had to defend the party in power. Now the RW media struggle because they have to defend not only the party in power, but a President worse than most people could have imagined.

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Basically people are more drawn to the voice of resistance than to state media.

I left HuffPo prob 2009. The content is elsewhere & the site sucks. Back then it used to be fun in the comments. Then the RWNJ’s took over.

LA Times is paywalled, but I get around that with the incognito window. Still read it all the time.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:27:27am

re: #106 dangerman

reasons, reasoning, logic, etc are no longer relevant
no minds will be changed and this isnt about that anymore
“we” simply are not and cannot be wrong

it’s tribal - us vs them

therefore the use of “attack”

Oh totally.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:27:57am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:37:39am

re: #111 Stanley Sea

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And Trump appears to care less.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:38:48am
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Sea Mexican!  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:39:08am

re: #111 Stanley Sea

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And it feels like a 100!

(Well, will feel soon enough.)

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:41:36am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:43:40am

re: #101 Blind Frog Belly White

Damn…..Daily Caller almost a 50% drop? That’s serious. Hell, even Breitbart had a 20% drop. I’m surprised about Yahoo’s drop being so relatively small…..but then again, it’s been infested with RW lunatics; it’s an utter sewer.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:45:40am

re: #112 HappyWarrior

And Trump appears to care less.

It’s over, he scored a 10 out of 10.

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BeachDem  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:45:53am

Finally finished with the Michigan project and at the airport to head home. Could have slept till 9 this morning but the boss started texting me at 7. Sigh.

Joe Walsh and particularly the fucking yam should just shut the fuck up and stop picking fights with pregnant widows.

I saw/read that they wouldn’t let her see the body so she’s not even convinced it’s him in the casket. Poor woman has been through it and did not need the asshole squatting in the whit house fighting with her.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:47:31am

re: #115 FormerDirtDart

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Joe posted something last night about the Trump administration doing the Kremlin’s work for it with Browder, the former financier who had to flee Russia for his life.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:48:05am

re: #117 Stanley Sea

It’s over, he scored a 10 out of 10.

He is such a pathetic asshole.

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Belafon  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:52:16am

re: #119 HappyWarrior

That would be this: Trump Admin Revokes Bill Browder’s US Visa (Daily Kos):

Bill Browder is the American/British financier who uncovered $230M tax fraud scheme in Russia, and was subsequently blamed for the fraud while his auditor Sergei Magnitsky was murdered in Russian prison- leading to the Magnitsky act and sanctions at the center of Trump’s Russia collusion.

Russia is desperately trying to get their hands on Browder in order to tie up the loose ends on Putin’s corruption and fraud. They’ve issued 5 Interpol arrest warrants- weaponizing Interpol for their corrupt and anti-western schemes.

Except now they have collaborators in the White House and US Congress. Right after Russia issued the latest Interpol warrant for Browder, the Trump administration revoked his US visa.

There’s even a quote from National Review against this action by the Trump admin.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:54:10am

re: #121 Belafon

That would be this: Trump Admin Revokes Bill Browder’s US Visa (Daily Kos):

There’s even a quote from National Review against this action by the Trump admin.

What do you want to do, start WWIII?!

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:54:27am

re: #101 Blind Frog Belly White

Considering that is over a one year period during a presidential election, I am not surprised. However, I do agree with the the empowerment of the resistance.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:55:36am

re: #121 Belafon

That would be this: Trump Admin Revokes Bill Browder’s US Visa (Daily Kos):

There’s even a quote from National Review against this action by the Trump admin.

Yes, that was it. Thanks.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:59:09am

re: #124 HappyWarrior

Yes, that was it. Thanks.

Jesus, Trump is just blatantly doing Putin’s bidding now. Next he might as well hand his Twitter account over to the Russian troll farm.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:00:08am

re: #125 Ace-o-aces

Jesus, Trump is just blatantly doing Putin’s bidding now. Next he might as well hand his Twitter account over to the Russian troll farm.

I mean as bad as I thought Bush was, I can’t imagine him doing that.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:04:51am
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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:05:21am

re: #121 Belafon

Is the revocation of his visa automatic with the generation of an Interpol arrest warrant?

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:07:10am

re: #128 Shropshire Slasher

Is the revocation of his visa automatic with the generation of an Interpol arrest warrant?

I don’t think so. Also, who pressured Interpol to change their mind?

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:10:37am

Why is Bill still on TV?

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Belafon  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:14:16am

re: #128 Shropshire Slasher

While this doesn’t directly answer your question, this article about another US-Interpol topic indicates that conservatives would have shit their pants a long time ago had Interpol had any direct influence in the US.

Russia is known for abusing the Interpol system:

According to The Open Dialog Foundation, Russia and other former Soviet republics like Azerbaijan, Belarus and Kazakhstan frequently misuse the Interpol system. The foundation’s reports cite 44 politically motivated cases which have passed through the Interpol system. Of these, 18 cases originated in Russia, 10 in Kazakhstan and five in Belarus.

Edit: So I would say no, this wasn’t an automatic trigger by a law or agreement. This is the Trump administration.

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darthstar  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:14:26am
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Belafon  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:15:09am

re: #130 Ace-o-aces

Why is Bill still on TV?

White, male.

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lawhawk  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:15:55am

Seen this week on news (whether in first person, or relayed by others on Twitter):

Bill O’Reilly shilling his books on CBS News
David Petraeus on ABC News commenting about Kelly’s comments.
Oliver Fucking North.

Is this the best that these media outlets can do in getting content to fill airtime?

Serial sex harasser gets to shill his idiotic books that make mincemeat out of history? A guy who was booted from government for improper handling of classified info? A guy who should have spent his last days in Fort Leavenworth hammering big rocks into small rocks?

Is the talent pool for commentary so shallow that these media outlets keep going back to the same people time and time again?

It’s the same where media outlets go to Bernie for talking about Democrats, when he’s actually running as an independent in the US Senate (again). Or when they always go to McCain or Graham or don’t even bother to get a Democrat to challenge or address views to rebut the GOP standard issue claptrap?

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Belafon  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:17:02am

Interesting fact about Interpol: In the 1930s, Germany took control of Interpol, basically making it an arm of the Nazis:

Following Anschluss in 1938, the organization fell under the control of Nazi Germany, and the Commission’s headquarters were eventually moved to Berlin in 1942.[12] Most members withdrew their support during this period.[9] From 1938 to 1945, the presidents of Interpol included Otto Steinhäusl, Reinhard Heydrich, Arthur Nebe, and Ernst Kaltenbrunner. All were generals in the SS, and Kaltenbrunner was the highest ranking SS officer executed after the Nuremberg Trials.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:17:29am

re: #130 Ace-o-aces

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Why is Bill still on TV?

To offer his view about how bad he thinks Harvey Weinstein is?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:19:32am
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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:21:19am

re: #131 Belafon

Thank you. I looked as well, but didn’t find anything on automatic revocation. I would guess that since the US is a member of Interpol, I would think we wouldn’t make it easy for fugitives to escape.

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Belafon  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:24:28am

re: #138 Shropshire Slasher

Thank you. I looked as well, but didn’t find anything on automatic revocation. I would guess that since the US is a member of Interpol, I would think we wouldn’t make it easy for fugitives to escape.

Interpol is described as an administrative agency. Basically, a communications interface. England needs some law enforcement help, we ask what they need. Russia asks for help, we should be going “Why?”

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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:26:23am

re: #134 lawhawk

Seen this week on news (whether in first person, or relayed by others on Twitter):

Bill O’Reilly shilling his books on CBS News
David Petraeus on ABC News commenting about Kelly’s comments.
Oliver Fucking North.

Is this the best that these media outlets can do in getting content to fill airtime?
….
Is the talent pool for commentary so shallow that these media outlets keep going back to the same people time and time again?

i wonder if its becoming similar to the trump administration itself
no one wants to be seen there so, yes this is best they can do

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:26:43am
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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:27:28am

re: #141 FormerDirtDart

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brilliant!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:30:15am
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darthstar  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:34:56am

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

How many troops do we have in Niger?
mumble-mumble
I’m sorry, how many?
‘bout a thousand
About how many?
A thousand.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:35:18am

re: #141 FormerDirtDart

Is that $4,000 cash dollar or am I getting back my $4,000 in taxes I already gave?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:35:23am

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

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All she did was verified that she felt disrespected and that Representative Wilson wasn’t lying about her account and that the reason why she had it on speaker was so her husband’s family could hear the call. Walsh can fuck off. He’s an irrelevant former Congressman who never accomplished a damn thing and will be remembered if he’s at all for the guy who belittled Tammy Duckworth’s service all the while having owed child support. I hope his kids despise him because he’s a terrible person and father. Definitely not even close to the father that La David was to his and Myeshia’s kids.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:37:36am

re: #136 b.d. (bill d.)

To offer his view about how bad he thinks Harvey Weinstein is?

And to promote his children’s book for fucks sake! The publisher hasn’t pulled that yet? Is Harvey Weinstein going to star in a new cartoon series on Disney Jr?

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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:41:23am

re: #30 The Vicious Babushka

And here come the worst garbage people in the world:

[Embedded content]Trump never attacked her…

this is true - as far as the original telcon goes

that he mauled up the call and “merely” disrespected her as the pregnant, grieving widow of a fallen solder, no one disputes or questions

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:41:44am
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lawhawk  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:42:41am

Back of the napkin math on Trump/GOP fuckery on 401k in my own financial situation.

I max out my 401k. No kids and tight financial control. That means if GOP drops the 401k max down to $2,000, I’m going to see a tax hit of …

$15,000 taxed at the 33% rate.

Yeah, so I get whacked for essentially $5,000 more in taxes. I’d have to hope that other deductions and credits aren’t hit as well, and that the so called expanded standard deduction makes up for it (*cough* not likely), or the itemized deduction is still applicable in my case.

Oh, and since I live in NJ, I’m likely going to see my taxes go up even more if GOP/Trump get rid of the mortgage interest deduction (or curb it) or the state & local tax deduction.

That combination would mean that someone like myself who is upper middle class would see a massive tax hike, all because Trump and GOP want to give millionaires their massive tax breaks, like the estate tax repeal.

Fuck this GOP and fuck Trump.

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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:42:42am

re: #145 Shropshire Slasher

Is that $4,000 cash dollar or am I getting back my $4,000 in taxes I already gave?

actually, neither

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:43:10am
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:43:45am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:44:24am

re: #150 lawhawk

but the yam says it’s all good!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:45:30am

re: #153 The Vicious Babushka

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The more he insults Wilson, the more he is insulting the family. Representative Wilson is a family friend of the Johnsons. And you’re right VB, he has no fucking right to call anyone goofy while supporting Trump.

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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:45:53am

re: #148 dangerman

this is true - as far as the original telcon goes

that he mauled up the call and “merely” disrespected her as the pregnant, grieving widow of a fallen solder, no one disputes or questions

and i should have added that after that rather than apologize (or something, anything), then they dug in (cause we never do anything wrong), double teamed and went after the congresswoman and then the widow

she was never “fair game”
none of this makes her fair game now
this is not a fair game
it is not a game

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lawhawk  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:45:59am

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

That means there’s a 80% chance that they’re fucking the middle class over directly or indirectly.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:47:45am

re: #150 lawhawk

But will the DOW hit 30,000?!

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Belafon  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:47:46am

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

but the yam says it’s all good!

There was a report the other day that said Trump was angry that Republicans couldn’t figure out how to cut taxes on the rich, keep the budget balanced, and cut taxes on the middle class, that they had to raise taxes on the middle class to make it work. In other words, he’s clueless about budgets.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:48:19am
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:49:57am

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

I would love to retweet this a thousand times over but for some reason stonekettle blocked me and I have absolutely no idea why *shrugs*

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:50:01am

re: #156 dangerman

and i should have added that after that rather than apologize (or something, anything), then they dug in (cause we never do anything wrong), double teamed and went after the congresswoman and then the widow

she was never “fair game”
none of this makes her fair game now
this is not a fair game
it is not a game

Politics is a game to them. Go Team Red Shirt!

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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:50:50am

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

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didnt they used like have an aide or secretary organize the calls in advance?

did the white house really not know they were calling while the family was enroute to the airport?

this is scary for a whole different set of reasons

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darthstar  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:50:57am

re: #159 Belafon

There was a report the other day that said Trump was angry that Republicans couldn’t figure out how to cut taxes on the rich, keep the budget balanced, and cut taxes on the middle class, that they had to raise taxes on the middle class to make it work. In other words, he’s clueless about budgets.

He’s never had a budget in his life. He’s had a board of directors keeping his companies afloat for him…largely steered by his daughter. When he has made the decisions, he’s failed.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:52:42am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:54:39am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:57:06am

re: #165 Ace-o-aces

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No chance of that. She has “The Armor” against reality.

Daughter of The King. Life & logic shaped conservative views. Proudly wearing The Armor in battlefield of ideas. Veritas ad Deum ducit ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ. #MAGA

Trump supporters are a cult.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:57:37am

re: #132 darthstar

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Hard Rock Stadium was damaged from Irma. They haven;t been playing in it or practicing there.

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A Cranky One  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:58:06am

To me, one key thing about this whole affair is that Dim Buff Un’s White House seems incapable of performing the normal day-to-day functions of an administration.

The fact that they’ve had to scramble to get the names and family information from the DoD about slain soldiers is evidence of the dysfunction.

We had some early indications of that dysfunction when the so-called President claimed a naval group was headed to NK when in fact is was sailing in the opposite direction. If the President wanted the group headed to NK, who should have given the order? Who should have acted on that order? Who should have verified that the order was being followed? If the Commander in Chief doesn’t have the most basic command structures in place to handle such events, what does that say about the WH? This is especially distressing when dealing with the military chain of command.

It’s obvious that this administration doesn’t have a clue about its responsibilities or how to carry out those responsibilities. And they don’t seem to care about trying to learn what the responsibilities are and how to ensure those functions are carried out effectively and efficiently. This is how we end up with a gutted State Dept and with so many key positions in the administration unfilled. They don’t understand why those positions exist, why they are important and why they should be staffed. They assume their lack of understanding is equivalent to the positions being unnecessary.

We’re fucked.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:58:10am

re: #163 dangerman

didnt they used like have an aide or secretary organize the calls in advance?

did the white house really not know they were calling while the family was enroute to the airport?

this is scary for a whole different set of reasons

Exactly.

Like when he called Heather Heyer’s mom DURING THE TELEVISED FUNERAL

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:59:18am

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thank you for that, I misunderstood where the money was coming from. To equate a lowering of the corporate tax rate to an increase of employee take home pay is laughable at best. The business may choose to pay bills, increase spending on R&D, blow it on coke and hookers, who knows?!

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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:03:31am

re: #158 Shropshire Slasher

But will the DOW hit 30,000?!

….and therefore wipe out the national debt

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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:04:11am

re: #159 Belafon

There was a report the other day that said Trump was angry that Republicans couldn’t figure out how to cut taxes on the rich, keep the budget balanced, and cut taxes on the middle class, that they had to raise taxes on the middle class to make it work. In other words, he’s clueless about budgets.

Math is hard

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sagehen  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:05:20am

re: #150 lawhawk

Back of the napkin math on Trump/GOP fuckery on 401k in my own financial situation.

I max out my 401k. No kids and tight financial control. That means if GOP drops the 401k max down to $2,000, I’m going to see a tax hit of …

$15,000 taxed at the 33% rate.

Yeah, so I get whacked for essentially $5,000 more in taxes. I’d have to hope that other deductions and credits aren’t hit as well, and that the so called expanded standard deduction makes up for it (*cough* not likely), or the itemized deduction is still applicable in my case.

Oh, and since I live in NJ, I’m likely going to see my taxes go up even more if GOP/Trump get rid of the mortgage interest deduction (or curb it) or the state & local tax deduction.

That combination would mean that someone like myself who is upper middle class would see a massive tax hike, all because Trump and GOP want to give millionaires their massive tax breaks, like the estate tax repeal.

Fuck this GOP and fuck Trump.

Or… if you have adjusted income of $100K, currently your taxes would be more than $30K. If you get a $4K reduction, that says something about who they’re calling “the average American family.”

Even though we all know, people with an adjusted income of $100K are not even close to “average”. (the median family income is about $60K, before deductions)

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lawhawk  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:06:05am
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Skip Intro  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:06:23am

re: #171 Shropshire Slasher

They will increase the dividend to shareholders, raise executive salaries. buy another executive retreat or five, upgrade the corporate jet fleet, and maybe extend country club memberships down the executive ranks a little.

What they won’t be doing is giving any raises to the schlubs who do the actual work. In fact they’ll be looking even harder at replacing them with robots or overseas slave labor.

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sagehen  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:06:55am

re: #153 The Vicious Babushka

Funny how Roy Moore and David Clarke can wear the same hat and no Republican would dare call either of them goofy.

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Skip Intro  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:07:11am

re: #172 dangerman

….and therefore wipe out the national debt

Hard to do when you reduce the capital gains tax to near zero.

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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:08:21am

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Maybe she’s saying that naturally “bosses” will pass the tax saving to the ees

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wrenchwench  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:08:51am

There are about 25 tweets after these, and he’s still talking. Le Carre must be jealous at this point.

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wrenchwench  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:09:40am
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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:10:27am

re: #169 A Cranky One

To me, one key thing about this whole affair is that Dim Buff Un’s White House seems incapable of performing the normal day-to-day functions of an administration.

The fact that they’ve had to scramble to get the names and family information from the DoD about slain soldiers is evidence of the dysfunction.

We had some early indications of that dysfunction when the so-called President claimed a naval group was headed to NK when in fact is was sailing in the opposite direction. If the President wanted the group headed to NK, who should have given the order? Who should have acted on that order? Who should have verified that the order was being followed? If the Commander in Chief doesn’t have the most basic command structures in place to handle such events, what does that say about the WH? This is especially distressing when dealing with the military chain of command.

It’s obvious that this administration doesn’t have a clue about its responsibilities or how to carry out those responsibilities. And they don’t seem to care about trying to learn what the responsibilities are and how to ensure those functions are carried out effectively and efficiently. This is how we end up with a gutted State Dept and with so many key positions in the administration unfilled. They don’t understand why those positions exist, why they are important and why they should be staffed. They assume their lack of understanding is equivalent to the positions being unnecessary.

We’re fucked.

You said it better than my 163

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:11:11am

I received a dash cam for my company car, you think I can pull off the adhesive backing on this !@##$%^ thing!?! Damn 3M VHB.

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sagehen  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:11:45am

re: #171 Shropshire Slasher

Thank you for that, I misunderstood where the money was coming from. To equate a lowering of the corporate tax rate to an increase of employee take home pay is laughable at best. The business may choose to pay bills, increase spending on R&D, blow it on coke and hookers, who knows?!

Most likely spend it on stock buy-backs, which increases the stock price even if the company’s total market capitalization doesn’t change at all.

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wrenchwench  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:14:09am

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I am picturing that Bassett Hound as someone’s avatar. Not sayin’ who.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:15:05am

re: #153 The Vicious Babushka

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Back to the “private” conversation bullshit.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:15:25am

re: #169 A Cranky One

To me, one key thing about this whole affair is that Dim Buff Un’s White House seems incapable of performing the normal day-to-day functions of an administration.

I regret only one upding, etc.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:15:28am

re: #179 dangerman

Maybe she’s saying that naturally “bosses” will pass the tax saving to the ees

Ah, yes….the invisible hand of the market. The notion that the rich are inherently virtuous and will always do the right thing by their employees; a little noblese oblige.

LOLOL

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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:16:51am

re: #188 Dr Lizardo

Ah, yes….the invisible hand of the market. The notion that the rich are inherently virtuous and will always do the right thing by their employees; a little noblese oblige.

LOLOL

Good so it’s not only me…

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:17:36am

re: #177 sagehen

Funny how Roy Moore and David Clarke can wear the same hat and no Republican would dare call either of them goofy.

Because they are not “goofy” they are fucking evil.

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darthstar  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:19:04am
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wrenchwench  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:23:04am

It’s not a malevolent toad, it’s an aquatic frog. Keep ‘em straight.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:27:32am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:27:47am

re: #193 gocart mozart

Expert in what? Deranged bullshit?

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:27:55am
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darthstar  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:28:05am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:28:08am

re: #194 Birth Control Works

Is that even legal?

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wrenchwench  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:28:50am

He’s still going…

The ‘he’ in the first tweet is Francis Fukuyama. (Who is also still going.)

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Belafon  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:29:17am

This is encouraging:

Animated by opposition to President Donald Trump and the Republican congressional majorities, at least 162 Democratic candidates in 82 GOP-held districts have raised over $100,000 so far this year, according to a POLITICO analysis of the latest FEC data. That’s about four times as many candidates as House Democrats had at this point before the 2016 or 2014 elections, and it’s more than twice as many as Republicans had running at this point eight years ago, on the eve of capturing the House in the 2010 wave election.

Nearly three dozen Republican incumbents were outraised by Democratic challengers in the third quarter of this year - a stunning figure. Nine GOP incumbents already trail a Democratic opponent in cash on hand, increasing the likelihood that many veteran incumbents will face tough opposition for the first time in years. […]

“That’s something that should get every Republican’s attention in Washington,” said Jason Roe, a Republican strategist who works on House races. “These first-timers are printing money.”

In a number of cases, the Republican is running behind all of the Democrats that have lined up to challenge them.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:29:41am

How Carrie Fisher stuck up for friend who was sexually assaulted

Fisher added to her pal, “I knew [the producer] would probably be there, so I went to his office and personally delivered a Tiffany’s box wrapped with the white bow. It was a cow tongue from [LA haunt] Jerry’s Famous Deli with a note that said, ‘If you ever touch my darling Heather or any other woman again, the next delivery will be something of yours in a much smaller box.’”

Ross adds, “If you don’t know what a cow tongue looks like, Google it.”

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:30:02am

re: #198 Eclectic Cyborg

Is that even legal?

nope

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:30:03am

re: #165 Ace-o-aces

HA! She deleted the tweet.

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wrenchwench  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:30:16am

re: #199 wrenchwench

He’s still going…

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The ‘he’ in the first tweet is Francis Fukuyama. (Who is also still going.)

Three more gets you

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:31:27am
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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:32:20am
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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:33:07am
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Skip Intro  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:35:30am

re: #207 Birth Control Works

Goes into the “NoShit” file.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:38:52am

re: #130 Ace-o-aces

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Why is Bill still on TV?

Bill is too narcissistic to go away.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:39:33am

Oh I guess it’s too late for the sitcom thing but:
Simpsons
It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia
Arrested Development
Beavis and Butthead
South Park
Family Guy
30 Rock

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lawhawk  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:40:11am

re: #207 Birth Control Works

What that pardon means, and whether he gets to get to vote or own guns going forward despite being a convicted felon pardoned by a not soon enough to be indicted felon.

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MsJ  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:40:18am

re: #101 Blind Frog Belly White

If the Conventional Wisdom didn’t see this coming, the Conventional Wisdom is really dumb. MSNBC struggled during Obama, because it had to defend the party in power. Now the RW media struggle because they have to defend not only the party in power, but a President worse than most people could have imagined.

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Basically people are more drawn to the voice of resistance than to state media.

It’s not just that they are defending him, it is how they are defending him. Even the most stupid amongst us can’t believe half the stuff being said on the RW sites. It’s insane even by their standards. Ok, roughly 30% of their own people will buy into it, but most is too crazy even for those who buy it.

Also, anyone with a few brain cells to rub together have to wonder why Trump is awesome and Obama and Clinton are still in the news for virtually nothing. There has to be some smoke being set off in some brains. Even for those who don’t use their brains very often.

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makeitstop  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:45:05am

re: #204 wrenchwench

Three more gets you

.

That was some thread.

I like Garland, I’m I’m unclear on where exactly he stands. I’ve seen him mock Louise Mensch a few times, but reading Malcolm Nance’s timeline I noticed that Nance throws him in with the Mensch/Taylor knuckleheads.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:48:30am
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Stanley Sea  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:49:31am

re: #209 Birth Control Works

Bill is too narcissistic to go away.

Somebody needs to ask him about his vibrator live on TV.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:50:39am

According to the document, the DPC proposes to cut $300 billion from federal compensation over 10 years, in part by phasing out pension and retiree health benefits, and reducing paid leave. The document also forecasts a federal pay freeze for calendar year 2019—a rare step President Trump could take unilaterally.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:51:54am
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MsJ  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:53:05am

re: #199 wrenchwench

He’s still going…

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The ‘he’ in the first tweet is Francis Fukuyama. (Who is also still going.)

That is some thread. Really. It’s kinda fascinating.

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Belafon  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:54:50am

re: #217 Birth Control Works

I’m pretty sure Target will be sad at the thought of bigots buying Depends rather than using the restroom. I will donate to a GoFundMe to help these people pay for their Depends if it’ll keep these idiots out of restrooms this straight man will visit.

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JordanRules  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:55:07am

re: #213 makeitstop

His threads can definitely get you in the ‘rah, rah we got this’ mood and provide some good righteous laughs.

He’s been way too friendly with Mensch, Taylor and the crew for my tastes. They target a lot of people that it seems like Garland respects and he does or says nothing. That Mensch crew symbolize a lot of what uber Patriot Garland rails against and yet he plays ball with them. If he’s made fun of them, I hadn’t seen it. His threads can still be fun, but I tend to give him a slight side eye these days.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:57:39am

After having OWN (Oprah Winfrey Network) on in the background all weekend, my personal pet peeves are all on the surface.

People are what is important.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:59:06am

re: #219 Belafon

I’m pretty sure Target will be sad at the thought of bigots buying Depends rather than using the restroom. I will donate to a GoFundMe to help these people pay for their Depends if it’ll keep these idiots out of restrooms this straight man will visit.

And the sad thing is, I’d be willing to bet a lot of those morons really would rather shit and piss themselves. In their twisted minds, they’re SHOWING THOSE LIBS WHAT’S WHAT!!

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Sir John Barron  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:59:37am

re: #193 gocart mozart

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“Investigative” “Journalist”

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:00:04am

I think I’m done with Fb.

They want my ad money and aren’t going to get it.

I posted about one of my T-shirts with a link and they deleted it calling it “spam”.

No free advertising on fb.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:00:34am

Adult diapers aren’t good for the environment.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:01:17am

re: #217 Birth Control Works

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Because that’s the adult thing to do. Way to prove yourselves to be shitty people literally and in a metaphoric sense.

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makeitstop  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:01:39am

re: #225 Birth Control Works

Adult diapers aren’t good for the environment.

Not much fun to sit down in either, probably.

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Belafon  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:02:06am

re: #227 makeitstop

Not much fun to sit down in either, probably.

Not after they’re used.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:02:32am

If you haven’t heard of this organization, you may want to peruse this. OneSky

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:04:34am

re: #227 makeitstop

Not much fun to sit down in either, probably.

Yeah but we’ll be sticking it to the trannies and libtards. // Seriously though? When I go the bathroom. It’s literally something that I’m not paying attention to who’s near me in the urinal or stall. But go ahead FNC tell your viewers some more about how liberals are snowflakes and way too sensitive when you’re saying that people should wear diapers over transpeople sharing the same bathrooms as them.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:04:41am

re: #225 Birth Control Works

Adult diapers aren’t good for the environment.

Plugs up the burning barrel too (so I have heard).

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:04:42am

New Autism Study A “Shocking Wake-Up Call” For Society

Researchers found that people who exhibited higher levels of autistic traits were more likely to try to end their lives than people without the traits because they felt they were excluded from society, were a burden on friends and family, and because they experienced depression.

Previous research has already suggested a link between autistic people and an increased risk of suicide.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:07:07am

re: #194 Birth Control Works

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I can’t let this go.

“Unborn child in our care”

What about the girl child who is pregnant. Is she also not “in our care?”

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JordanRules  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:07:44am

This is really something.

Family with obscene wealth on display again pushing ruin for more wealth.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:15:00am

re: #232 Birth Control Works

New Autism Study A “Shocking Wake-Up Call” For Society

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:15:42am

re: #235 HappyWarrior

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:24:19am

Speaking of Bill O Reilly.

Remember Jimmy Carter? “Men don’t give a damn”

Jimmy Carter: Why I believe the mistreatment of women is the number one human rights abuse
The 95% of men out there that are not monsters need to prove him wrong.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:24:27am

Well, good night Lizards. Time to call it a day.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:25:45am

re: #236 Birth Control Works

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:27:10am
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:34:08am

Lubbock’s Mr. Conservative sounds more and more like a Kim Jong Un cultist:

Facebook Post

Facebook Post

Did you know that the beloved President Trump recently shot three holes-in-one in a single round of golf?
That he has tamed an alligator with nothing but his bare hands and his moral authority in one short session?
That the Roswell UFO was back engineered from doodles drawn by his illustrious father Fred in the 1920s?

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:34:49am
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ObserverArt  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:36:13am

re: #224 Birth Control Works

I think I’m done with Fb.

They want my ad money and aren’t going to get it.

I posted about one of my T-shirts with a link and they deleted it calling it “spam”.

No free advertising on fb.

Back a few years ago the guy running the companies I worked for wanted us to have Facebook accounts for the businesses. At that time, there were a lot of people pushing Facebook for businesses.

So, if a business has a page, is it now being charged for that page, because a page would be an ad?

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Jay C  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:42:32am

re: #242 FormerDirtDart

The cascading mistakes behind Trump’s terrible week.

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Kyle Griffin ought to keep that graph (sans text) on a file: I have a feeling that - before too long - he’ll be able to fill in the boxes with some new tsunami of idiocy, and have it fit just the same….

ETA: graphic seems to have come from Philip Bump in the Washington Post

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:42:43am

re: #243 ObserverArt

Back a few years ago the guy running the companies I worked for wanted us to have Facebook accounts for the businesses. At that time, there were a lot of people pushing Facebook for businesses.

So, if a business has a page, is it now being charged for that page, because a page would be an ad?

It’ all part of the evil master plan …

:)

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Skip Intro  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:44:12am

‘Lucas is our watermelon’: Fox & Friends dresses up black child as watermelon for Halloween segment

rawstory.com

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lawhawk  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:44:28am
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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:47:00am
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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:48:57am

Monday and already I need massive cuteness therapy.

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jaunte  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:49:19am

“…Jeff Mateer, who currently serves as the first assistant attorney general of Texas, is nominated for a lifetime appointment on the US District Court for the Eastern District of Texas. LGBT rights groups and Democratic senators have raised concerns over comments from Mateer, first published by CNN’s KFile, in which he described transgender children as evidence of “Satan’s plan,” lamented that states were banning conversion therapy, and argued that sanctioning same-sex marriage would lead to polygamy and bestiality.”

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:50:03am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:50:14am

re: #251 jaunte

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HEy remember when we got told Trump was the most pro LGBT ever Republican. That was a good one.

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jaunte  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:50:54am
“…Mateer responded, saying: “No, you’re right, and I truly believe because we know, history teaches this, totalitarian governments, what they first attack is freedom of religion, freedom of beliefs. Because they know that strikes at the core of freedom. If they can destroy freedom of conscience, then every other liberty is at stake. And so, we see that in history, whether that be Nazi Germany, or Communist Russia, or Communist China. That’s what they strike at first. And it’s just a stepping stone to taking away all freedom.”

I’m sick of these assholes pretending “religious freedom” means having the right to control other people.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:51:17am

re: #251 jaunte

argued that sanctioning same-sex marriage would lead to polygamy and bestiality.”

OK, SSM has been around for a few years in many places now, when do the polygamy and bestiality start?

/

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jaunte  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:52:00am

re: #255 Sir John Barron

All those secret polygamous bestiality basements under the local pizza joint.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:52:37am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

HEy remember when we got told Trump was the most pro LGBT ever Republican. That was a good one.

Hey, Hillary would have created a Caliphat sharia law by now.

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garzooma  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:52:54am

re: #242 FormerDirtDart

The cascading mistakes behind Trump’s terrible week.
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This misses the fact that Trump never did answer the original question of why there was no statement about the fatalities.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:54:31am

re: #254 jaunte

If they can destroy freedom of conscience, then every other liberty is at stake. And so, we see that in history, whether that be Nazi Germany, or Communist Russia, or Communist China. That’s what they strike at first. And it’s just a stepping stone to taking away all freedom.”

Nazi Germany isn’t a particularly good illustration of this phenomenon, as I’m sure he probably knows. Some Christians got into trouble in the Reich, yes, but most did not. Many Christian leaders approved of Hitler, etc.

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jaunte  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:55:42am

re: #259 Sir John Barron

It’s disappointing that someone who can just barely think is in line for a lifetime judicial appointment.

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Jay C  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:57:17am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

HEy remember when we got told Trump was the most pro LGBT ever Republican. That was a good one.

And that Hillary Clinton would turn out to be hopelessly lukewarm on gay issues because of…
Because of….
Ummm, support for Bill’s DADT policy, and ummm, somebody’s contribution to the Clinton Foundation, and ummm, something else?

Right….

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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:00:51pm

re: #255 Sir John Barron

OK, SSM has been around for a few years in many places now, when do the polygamy and bestiality start?

/

asking for a friend?

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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:02:18pm

re: #260 jaunte

It’s disappointing that someone who can just barely think is in line for a lifetime judicial appointment.

elections matter
voting matters
whoda thunkit

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:06:25pm

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Jay C  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:10:57pm

re: #251 jaunte

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And can one just imagine the Plinian Eruption of anger, outrage, butthurt and sputtering about “persecution” from the “Religious” RW should this guy actually get turned down for this appointment? Sadly, since opposition seems to be centered in “LGBT rights groups and Democratic Senators”, that’s probably unlikely.

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jaunte  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:11:43pm

re: #265 Jay C

Apparently Cornyn is now questioning his fitness, but Cruz still supports him.

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whitebeach  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:12:09pm

re: #249 Birth Control Works

I boopd the horsie!

But I did not boop the deputy.

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MsJ  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:34:55pm

re: #266 jaunte

Apparently Cornyn is now questioning his fitness, but Cruz still supports him.

Which truly shows Cruz has no principles or self-respect for himself or his family. Go forth Mr. Zodiac killer whose father shot JFK and whose wife is…

Honestly. How Cruz can look himself in the eyes is amazing. Absolutely no self respect.

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Belafon  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:35:30pm

re: #268 MsJ

Which truly shows Cruz has no principles or self-respect for himself or his family. Go forth Mr. Zodiac killer whose father shot JFK and whose wife is…

Honestly. How Cruz can look himself in the eyes is amazing. Absolutely no self respect.

They all sold their souls a while ago.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:36:36pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:41:33pm

In my local 103 projected today, 102 tomorrow.

Awful.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:44:41pm
Joe Walsh✔
@WalshFreedom

No. By “entourage” I mean the Trump-hating Congresswoman with the goofy hats who listened in on a private conversation. And then ran to CNN.

Wilson continues to spread the same conservative lie: It wasn’t a private conversation. Rep. Wilson was invited.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:44:52pm

re: #266 jaunte

Apparently Cornyn is now questioning his fitness, but Cruz still supports him.

Oh, what’s made Cornyn do that?

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Sir John Barron  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:45:48pm

re: #272 Anymouse 🌹

Wilson continues to spread the same conservative lie: It wasn’t a private conversation. Rep. Wilson was invited.

These snowflakey wingnuts sure are all snowflakey about “private” phone calls.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:48:29pm

re: #274 Sir John Barron

These snowflakey wingnuts sure are all snowflakey about “private” phone calls.

They’ve got nothing else really. All they can do is attack Rep. Wilson for an allegedly private call. If they really had something about her conduct, they would use that.

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Belafon  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:49:37pm

re: #272 Anymouse 🌹

I think you mean Walsh at the beginning of your sentence.

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nines09  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:49:37pm

Monday afternoon..

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:51:20pm

They’re a cult.

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ObserverArt  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:51:48pm

Sounds like Kelly is under some pressure he has never had to face before. Who buckles first? Does Kelly apologize? I have a feeling that might be a no-go for the tough general. And I get the feeling Trump won’t want him to either. So, does outside pressure build to the point that Kelly just gets frustrated and resigns or does Trump boot Kelly because he doesn’t like the pressure on Kelly.

Cornered rats. You never know what they will do.

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jaunte  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:52:47pm

re: #273 Sir John Barron

Oh, what’s made Cornyn do that?

From Houston Chronicle:

“…Cornyn said Thursday that he is reevaluating Mateer’s nomination in light of the undisclosed speeches as well as other public utterances.

“I am evaluating that information, and I understand there may be even addition information other than that which has previously been disclosed,” he said in a conference call with Texas reporters.

Cornyn, formerly a Texas Supreme Court Justice, said there should be no “religious test” for judges. “But it is important,” he added, “that all of our judges be people who can administer equal justice under the law and can separate their personal views from their duties as a judge.”

He added: “Because the information had not been previously disclosed, we were not able to have that kind of conversation with Mr. Mateer, so we’ve got some work to do.”
chron.com

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MsJ  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:53:42pm

re: #279 ObserverArt

Sounds like Kelly is under some pressure he has never had to face before. Who buckles first? Does Kelly apologize? I have a feeling that might be a no-go for the tough general. And I get the feeling Trump won’t want him to either. So, does outside pressure build to the point that Kelly just gets frustrated and resigns or does Trump boot Kelly because he doesn’t like the pressure on Kelly.

Cornered rats. You never know what they will do.

That’s the truly terrifying part. You just never know.

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ObserverArt  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:54:09pm

re: #271 Stanley Sea

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In my local 103 projected today, 102 tomorrow.

Awful.

Usually this time of the year, the teams in the World Series are worried about 50° or less temps at game time. This presents a whole different thing.

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Belafon  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:54:25pm

re: #281 MsJ

That’s the truly terrifying part. You just never know.

Trump: Can I fire Wilson?

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jaunte  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:54:40pm

re: #279 ObserverArt

I predict they’ll do the worst thing possible: stonewall, deflect, and let their mob do what mobs do.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:55:08pm

re: #278 Anymouse 🌹

They’re a cult.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:56:55pm

re: #278 Anymouse 🌹

They’re a cult.

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A cult of idiots. The call they did release was with a whole different family back in April (?)!

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Jay C  Oct 23, 2017 • 12:58:05pm

re: #271 Stanley Sea

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In my local 103 projected today, 102 tomorrow.

Awful.

Geez, talk about “old enough to remember…”: I’m from L.A. (1952-1981); and I can’t ever recall getting 100+ days this late in October: September, yes (not unusual at all): but triple-digits for the WS (and NOT in Arizona)? Weird.
And also, too: hard to wrap my head around the Houston Astros going to the Series for the American League….
Excuse me, I’ve got to go run some kids off my lawn.

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Jay C  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:01:11pm

re: #280 jaunte

From Houston Chronicle:

So IOW, Sen. Cornyn is going to Very Seriously Voice His Concerns and Examine The Matter Carefully, and vote to confirm Mateer anyway….

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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:02:21pm

re: #275 Anymouse 🌹

They’ve got nothing else really. All they can do is attack Rep. Wilson for an allegedly private call. If they really had something about her conduct, they would use that.

Initially they attacked Wilson because she’s the one who brought the call to the public’s attention. Now they attack her because most have at least enough functioning neurons in their heads to realize how dumb it is to attack a war widow. But there are those like Walsh who will throw caution to the wind and argue that the widow made herself a target for daring to speak out.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:04:46pm

re: #285 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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They live in false realities and Rushbo helped create it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:05:29pm

re: #283 Belafon

Trump: Can I fire Wilson?

Youvjest but I bet thstsccrossed his mind.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:08:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:09:12pm

re: #292 Charles Johnson

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I’m not either. SHS made it clear me that Kelly thinks he’s above criticism due to him being former military.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:12:27pm

Kelly lied about Rep Wilson because he knew Wingnuttia would take his word over Wilson’s despite there being evidence to the contrary.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:12:43pm

re: #289 Targetpractice

Initially they attacked Wilson because she’s the one who brought the call to the public’s attention. Now they attack her because most have at least enough functioning neurons in their heads to realize how dumb it is to attack a war widow. But there are those like Walsh who will throw caution to the wind and argue that the widow made herself a target for daring to speak out.

But as the Johnson family considers Rep. Wilson to be a member of their family, attacking Wilson is the same as attacking the other family members.

Hopefully, conservatives are creating enough outrage that it will get both-siderists off the couch and out to vote in the next election.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:14:46pm

re: #293 HappyWarrior

I’m not either. SHS made it clear me that Kelly thinks he’s above criticism due to him being former military.

She wanted him treated as if he was present military.

Fine, bring him up on UCMJ charges of Contempt for Officials and Conduct Unbecoming an Officer and a Gentleman.

And “military” or “veteran” doesn’t give a person some automatic insight into the truth of a matter, or blind adoration.

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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:15:32pm

re: #295 Anymouse 🌹

But as the Johnson family considers Rep. Wilson to be a member of their family, attacking Wilson is the same as attacking the other family members.

Hopefully, conservatives are creating enough outrage that it will get both-siderists off the couch and out to vote in the next election.

I’m too much of a cynic to believe the Both-Sider crowd will do more than blame Wilson for the whole matter, then damn Trump for being such a classless clod. Declare that “both sides” politicized this family’s pain and that while Trump’s right that it was a “private conversation,” the way he responded was absolutely wrong.

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bratwurst  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:17:45pm

And it happens again…

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:18:15pm

I haven’t seen sleeves this stupid since I was 8 years old and I drew them on a “fairy princess” picture with my new colored pencil set.

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wrenchwench  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:18:23pm

I think there’s a pun in there.

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RiverBoy  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:18:36pm

re: #237 Birth Control Works

Problem is though that 95% of men not being a monster is way too high percentage. I usually use this anecdote when talking about police corruption but I believe it fits with sexual harassment as well. 10% of us are the monsters that is always looking to take advantage and abuse any situation. Then there is the 10% of us that will do the right thing no matter what in all situations. The leftover 80% of us are the ones that can go either way depending on the circumstances.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:18:40pm

re: #297 Targetpractice

I’m too much of a cynic to believe the Both-Sider crowd will do more than blame Wilson for the whole matter, then damn Trump for being such a classless clod. Declare that “both sides” politicized this family’s pain and that while Trump’s right that it was a “private conversation,” the way he responded was absolutely wrong.

Yep I think that’s what is going to happen. They’re to totally ignore Wilson’s relationship to Sgt Johnson’s family while having a Both Sides circle jerk.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:19:14pm

re: #296 Anymouse 🌹

She wanted him treated as if he was present military.

Fine, bring him up on UCMJ charges of Contempt for Officials and Conduct Unbecoming an Officer and a Gentleman.

And “military” or “veteran” doesn’t give a person some automatic insight into the truth of a matter, or blind adoration.

He’s such an asshole for what he did.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:20:48pm

re: #299 The Vicious Babushka

I haven’t seen sleeves this stupid since I was 8 years old and I drew them on a “fairy princess” picture with my new colored pencil set.

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I saw that on TV earlier.

So distracting along with her little girl voice & wearing the wrong bra.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:22:07pm

re: #299 The Vicious Babushka

I haven’t seen sleeves this stupid since I was 8 years old and I drew them on a “fairy princess” picture with my new colored pencil set.

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Hey. My wife and mother have some tops with bell sleeves.

They are the same colour as the rest of the top though.

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Cheechako  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:22:22pm

re: #272 Anymouse 🌹

Wilson continues to spread the same conservative lie: It wasn’t a private conversation. Rep. Wilson was invited.

I thought Kelly said he was in the room when trump made the call. Isn’t that considered eavesdropping? Oh, I forgot, eavesdropping is OK for repugs.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:24:05pm

re: #306 Cheechako

I thought Kelly said he was in the room when trump made the call. Isn’t that considered eavesdropping? Oh, I forgot, eavesdropping is OK for repugs.

Yeah somehow it was okay for Kelly to be in on the call but not Rep Wilson who knew La David since he was a boy. I’m glad Mrs. Johnson spoke out today. The attempts to demonize Congresswoman Wilson make me sick.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:26:07pm

re: #283 Belafon

Trump: Can I fire Wilson?

You are probably pretty close to that not being a joke.
Because he thinks being president is the same as being a CEO, and the government should be run like a business, he probably really believes that he owns the USA now and he can fire anyone he wants.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:27:56pm
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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:28:49pm

re: #249 Birth Control Works

I did it! I boopd the horsie!

the day after hurricane wilma
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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:28:57pm

re: #309 Anymouse 🌹

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Alex Jones: The death was a set up to make Trump look bad. False flag!

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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:30:43pm

re: #272 Anymouse 🌹

Wilson continues to spread the same conservative lie: It wasn’t a private conversation. Rep. Wilson was invited.

“private” doesnt change what he said or how he said it

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:31:22pm

re: #312 dangerman

“private” doesnt change what he said or how he said it

Exactly.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:32:34pm

The only thing that matters is he was disrespectful and continues to act as if he did nothing wrong.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:33:58pm

Trump-Allied Pastor Carl Gallups Says Women Are Sexually Assaulting Men By Dressing Provocatively

Carl Gallups, a right-wing pastor and conspiracy theorist who spoke at Trump campaign rallies during the 2016 election, spent a portion of his radio program on Friday discussing the idea that women are “sexually assaulting” men by dressing in a provocative manner.

Gallups interviewed Mike Shoesmith, who recently wrote a piece in response to the Hollywood sexual assault scandals arguing that women who wear “sexually suggestive clothing around a man” are legally guilty of sexual assault. While Gallups and Shoesmith repeatedly made clear that they were not excusing or condoning sexual assault against women in any way, they were nevertheless outraged that women are allowed to torment men by “walking around in their little sister’s skirt.”

“Men are visually stimulated and unwanted stimulation should meet the basic definition of assault,” Shoesmith said, asserting that women who dress in a suggestive manner are “guilty of indecent visual assault on a man’s imagination, which does cause mental anguish and torment.”

We need that wingnut quarantine zone we’ve discussed.

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wrenchwench  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:35:57pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:36:39pm

re: #315 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Trump-Allied Pastor Carl Gallups Says Women Are Sexually Assaulting Men By Dressing Provocatively

We need that wingnut quarantine zone we’ve discussed.

Grow up Pastor. Stop infantizing men with this bullshit and blaming women.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:37:01pm

re: #316 wrenchwench

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He’s a beta.//

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whitebeach  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:39:34pm

re: #315 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Trump-Allied Pastor Carl Gallups Says Women Are Sexually Assaulting Men By Dressing Provocatively

Why can’t we make the bitches all wear completely concealing baggy clothing in basic black? Without going all, you know, shariah.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:40:02pm

re: #278 Anymouse 🌹

Him: “It’s on the Internet.” Me: It’s not.

I would like dimwit to show me on the Intertubes where the recording is.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:41:47pm

re: #315 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Carl Gallups, a right-wing pastor and conspiracy theorist who spoke at Trump campaign rallies during the 2016 election, spent a portion of his radio program on Friday

If it we’re for radio, half these wingnut barkers wouldn’t eat.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:42:00pm

re: #315 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

My Spidey Sense tells me that Pulpit Pimp has something kinky in his KKKloset!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:43:00pm

re: #315 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Trump-Allied Pastor Carl Gallups Says Women Are Sexually Assaulting Men By Dressing Provocatively

We need that wingnut quarantine zone we’ve discussed.

Pastor speaking at a campaign event? In a just world, that tax-free gravy train would be gone.

So are nuns who are raped dressing provocatively? Women in very conservative dress such as Mennonites or some Muslims?

Or is rape a crime of violence and opportunity, rather than provocation?

Wingnut theocrats (regardless of religion) will never be satisfied until women are locked in cages away from society. Even then they likely wouldn’t be safe from rape or abuse.

Since it’s always projection with these guys, perhaps he is giving us insight into what he would do?

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Stanley Sea  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:47:16pm

How much you want to bet that the yam isn’t paying one iota of attention to this Dunford presser?

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William Lewis  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:03:52pm

re: #315 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I was quite serious the other night when I referred to Heinlein’s Coventry.

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ObserverArt  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:46:11pm

re: #315 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Trump-Allied Pastor Carl Gallups Says Women Are Sexually Assaulting Men By Dressing Provocatively

We need that wingnut quarantine zone we’ve discussed.

Burka time in America. Come on fundies, make the transistion to the American Taliban complete. You know you want to.


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