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goddamnedfrank  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:30:12pm
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William Lewis  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:35:52pm

I think this is a good time to sit back with a bit of fruit as a snack & listen to one of my favorite jazz albums, Money Jungle by the trio of Duke Ellington, Charles Mingus & Max Roach. A glorious set to relax to.

Night all!

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JordanRules  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:36:16pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:37:21pm
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retired cynic  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:39:32pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Oh, NO, those poor people! This is SO not right!

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VegasGolfer  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:39:32pm

re: #2 William Lewis

Added to my apple music. Thanks.

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plansbandc  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:43:03pm

Everything that has ever mattered. Absolutely everything.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:43:17pm

Carried over from the previous thread:

re: #314 FormerDirtDart

On Whitefish Energy’s outrageous contract, I wonder how it is connected to a GOP grifter (such as Rep. Gianforte of Montana)?

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retired cynic  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:44:47pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹

Carried over from the previous thread:

On Whitefish Energy’s outrageous contract, I wonder how it is connected to a GOP grifter (such as Rep. Gianforte of Montana)?

The designated puncher. I wonder, too.

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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:44:53pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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Imagine my surprise that Trump continues to be exactly the sort of president that Bros warned us Hillary would be.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:47:11pm

re: #10 Targetpractice

Imagine my surprise that Trump continues to be exactly the sort of president that Bros warned us Hillary would be.

And the Berniebots, Jill Shills and their ilk STILL repeat the bullshit that Hillary would have been worse!

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Kragar  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:50:02pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:56:56pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:59:56pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:00:53pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:02:07pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

Is he doing a film version of “Lolita?”

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:04:02pm
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VegasGolfer  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:06:29pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:07:48pm

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹

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Jim’s joking, but there’s plenty of wingnuts who think that’s the answer. That we need a Berlin Wall-style edifice backed up by machine guns, mines, concertina wire, and electrified fencing. With perhaps a few crucified corpses to serve as “warnings.”

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:08:22pm

“Sebastian Gorka” sounds like one of the losing admirals at the Battle of Tsushima. I like people who don’t get defeated by the Japanese. He also looks like a villain from Dr. Zhivago. I like people who don’t sell out to Bolsheviks, or Russians of any kind for that matter.

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austin_blue  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:09:10pm

re: #19 Targetpractice

Jim’s joking, but there’s plenty of wingnuts who think that’s the answer. That we need a Berlin Wall-style edifice backed up by machine guns, mines, concertina wire, and electrified fencing. With perhaps a few crucified corpses to serve as “warnings.”

Heads on pikes.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:10:31pm

Oh my, my! Asshole Alex loses it and goes into a NSFW rant when he responds to accusations that he’s a Russian agent…

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:11:12pm

re: #21 austin_blue

Heads on pikes.

There used to be a freeper who used “Heads on Pikes” as his handle. He was banned, possibly too liberal for them.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:11:55pm

re: #22 Joe Bacon 🌹

Oh my, my! Asshole Alex loses it and goes into a NSFW rant when he responds to accusations that he’s a Russian agent…

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The gentleman doth protest too much.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:12:29pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:13:38pm
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whitebeach  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:14:20pm

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹

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Can we please bring in a few middle-aged Berliners with sledgehammers to treat these things with the respect they deserve?

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JordanRules  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:14:27pm

re: #22 Joe Bacon 🌹

He’s unstable and goofy. Geeez.

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teleskiguy  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:15:36pm

re: #22 Joe Bacon 🌹

That’s a classic among classics of the Alex Jones raging cockhead genre. It’s also kind of old, from last April.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:17:02pm

re: #29 teleskiguy

That’s a classic among classic of the Alex Jones raging cockhead genre. It’s also kind of old, from last April.

Still waiting for the clown to bust an artery!

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JordanRules  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:17:26pm
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Kragar  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:19:30pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:19:32pm

These “prototypes” are 30ft tall. Meanwhile, the deepest point of the Rio Grande is 60ft deep. Unless El Jefe Naranjo is preparing to cede portions of sovereign American soil to Mexico.

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JordanRules  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:26:18pm
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JordanRules  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:29:56pm

re: #34 JordanRules

Really wish we had a stable, competent administration in charge.

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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:30:36pm

A 30ft tall wall will be totally impossible to get over…provided you don’t go down to the local hardware store and buy a 32ft ladder.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:30:45pm

re: #22 Joe Bacon 🌹

Oh my, my! Asshole Alex loses it and goes into a NSFW rant when he responds to accusations that he’s a Russian agent…

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“I like gay people, but there’s something about this fairy… .”

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retired cynic  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:31:07pm

re: #34 JordanRules

One result of DT’s horribleness is that he soaks up so much of our outrage that we are losing track of atrocities all around the globe. And it seems like too much. Just too much to take.

I remember wondering, during President Obama’s time in office, how he was able to handle all of the pain that was occurring around the world. Somehow he was able to handle it, to soak it up, so it didn’t seem so unbelievable for the rest of us. What a wonder he was, and his staff, too.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:31:33pm

re: #35 JordanRules

I have this very uneasy feeling that Johnson was caught and tortured.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:32:04pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:32:35pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

These “prototypes” are 30ft tall. Meanwhile, the deepest point of the Rio Grande is 60ft deep. Unless El Jefe Naranjo is preparing to cede portions of sovereign American soil to Mexico.

Such a wall would be set back from the river without ceding territory (unless you are a private landowner on the border, then you would cede property to the Federal government - meanwhile, court cases are still going on about Geo. W. Bush’s fence that would have done the same thing).

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gocart mozart  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:33:19pm

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹

If Trump really cared about illegal immigration he would build a moat and fill it with sharks that shoot lasers from their eyes. The fact he is not proposing this proves he is a low energy flaccid loser.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:36:00pm
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Interesting Times  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:36:09pm

HappyWarrior, here’s something for you (though I’m not sure what you, personally, can do about it…I guess it depends on what kind of GOTV/volunteering you’re involved with and what contacts you have…?)

The Obsession With White Voters Could Cost Democrats the Virginia Governor’s Race

One simple statistic highlights the folly of much of the Democratic Party’s strategy and spending. If every person of color who voted for Hillary Clinton in Virginia last year turns out to vote in Virginia’s gubernatorial contest on November 7, Democrat Ralph Northam could win without getting a single vote from a white person. Not one. And yet most Democratic strategists and donors overlook and undervalue voters of color in general and African-American voters in particular. As a result, Democrats are at real risk of losing eminently winnable contests in Virginia this year, as well as in myriad races in 2018.

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Kragar  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:38:43pm
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mmmirele  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:40:37pm

re: #41 Anymouse 🌹

Such a wall would be set back from the river without ceding territory (unless you are a private landowner on the border, then you would cede property to the Federal government - meanwhile, court cases are still going on about Geo. W. Bush’s fence that would have done the same thing).

In the summer, Army Corps of Engineers guys went in and bulldozed around in the National Butterfly Center in Hidalgo County, Texas, which is on the border. One of my friends is a public librarian in the area and a supporter of the center. She goes there to take pictures. She was *pissed*.

nbcnews.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:41:33pm

re: #44 Interesting Times

Yup, we white folk (well, Slavs have only been “whites” in this country for a few decades) are no longer an absolute majority, but a group amongst equals.

I don’t mind being equal to others, but there are a whole lot of people in my demographic that would rather eat barb wire than give up a millimetre of ground.

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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:41:47pm

re: #45 Kragar

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Come on now, we know that drug cartels would never think to blow up the wall, tunnel under it, or just fly over it. A 30ft wall will be an impenetrable barrier that will totally stop all drug and human trafficking!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:42:24pm

re: #44 Interesting Times

HappyWarrior, here’s something for you (though I’m not sure what you, personally, can do about it…I guess it depends on what kind of GOTV/volunteering you’re involved with and what contacts you have…?)

The Obsession With White Voters Could Cost Democrats the Virginia Governor’s Race

Thanks man. Good read. Didn’t know about how little attention Fairfax has gotten from donors. It’s disappointing because this is an increasingly diverse state. I think Northam will prevail in the end but we need to be a more inclusive party when it comes to our message. We’re too busy trying to win back these white voters rather than creating a diverse coalition like Obama did.

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RiverBoy  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:43:22pm

re: #22 Joe Bacon 🌹

Anytime someone throws a “f***ing f***er” at me I can’t stop myself from laughing my ass off. I do admit my humor is pretty simple though.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:43:24pm

re: #48 Targetpractice

Come on now, we know that drug cartels would never think to blow up the wall, tunnel under it, or just fly over it. A 30ft wall will be an impenetrable barrier that will totally stop all drug and human trafficking!

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With Trump proposing to travel to the Korean DMZ, perhaps he’s looking for ideas to incorporate.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:43:46pm

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹

Yup, we white folk (well, Slavs have only been “whites” in this country for a few decades) are no longer an absolute majority, but a group amongst equals.

I don’t mind being equal to others, but there are a whole lot of people in my demographic that would rather eat barb wire than give up a millimetre of ground.

As a heterosexual white male, I know even without a penny in my pocket I’m starting out with inherent advantages.

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JordanRules  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:44:59pm

re: #38 retired cynic

Really good point about the leadership of the previous administration empowering and projecting characteristics we all needed.

We can’t trust this regime with the easiest, rote executive stuff and, as HRC kept telling us, these are serious times. We are just so horribly positioned for all the major decisions required of a superpower now.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:46:43pm

re: #52 HappyWarrior

As a heterosexual white male, I know even without a penny in my pocket I’m starting out with inherent advantages.

Yup.

It’s not my fault those advantages existed when I was born (and still exist today). Working toward equal treatment (and listening to others to find out what they think that should entail) seems to be the way to make a society that is fairer for all people.

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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:46:49pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

Thanks man. Good read. Didn’t know about how little attention Fairfax has gotten from donors. It’s disappointing because this is an increasingly diverse state. I think Northam will prevail in the end but we need to be a more inclusive party when it comes to our message. We’re too busy trying to win back these white voters rather than creating a diverse coalition like Obama did.

I suspect it’ll be another close race that will be spun by pundits not as a repudiation of Trump, but instead as an indication that Republicans will need to go even further up his ass if they wish to win next year.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:49:55pm

re: #55 Targetpractice

I suspect it’ll be another close race that will be spun by pundits not as a repudiation of Trump, but instead as an indication that Republicans will need to go even further up his ass if they wish to win next year.

Whatever happens, Stewart will be the nominee against Kaine next year.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:50:32pm

I had to take down my flag, as very high winds damaged my flagstaff. I’m not sure when I can get to repairing it.

I need to hit the rack … g’night y’all. Try to hold together the Republic whilst I sleep… .

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retired cynic  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:51:32pm

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹

You are sleeping at night now?

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Kragar  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:02:57pm
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retired cynic  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:03:43pm

re: #59 Kragar

Hey, Sean Astin on the good side.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 23, 2017 • 10:58:27pm

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austin_blue  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:06:17pm

re: #59 Kragar

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Damn, Sam Gamgee is woke.

Night all. Sweet scaly dreams. Tweet storm from the Cheeto Shit Gibbon tomorrow? They seemed to shut him down this PM, so we’ll see what happens when Drumpf takes his morning Drumpf.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 23, 2017 • 11:48:26pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:34:04am

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teleskiguy  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:00:24am
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LastYearsMan  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:33:53am

re: #2 William Lewis

Fleurette Africaine is a glorious song.

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teleskiguy  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:10:42am
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freetoken  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:26:32am

A Puerto Rican and a Nuyorican, that is.

Not that Trump and his ilk recognize them as Americans.

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freetoken  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:27:02am

Show a Trumper that video and ask them what nationality they think the singers are.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:16:36am

huffingtonpost.com

Nicaragua has officially joined the Paris Climate Accord.

That leaves only two countries in the world that are not members:
a) Syria, which has no effective or functional government
b) the USA, which willingly withdrew from the accord under direction from Donald Trump

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:49:04am

re: #72 Anymouse 🌹

huffingtonpost.com

Nicaragua has officially joined the Paris Climate Accord.

That leaves only two countries in the world that are not members:
a) Syria, which has no effective or functional government
b) the USA, which willingly withdrew from the accord under direction from Donald Trump has no effective or functional government

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:06:24am

As for Goebbels Gorka…

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Citizen K  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:20:12am

re: #3 JordanRules

I see late night last night was kind of a horror show. In addition to this, we have yet another example of grift as well as how unserious this administration is about actually doing anything about PR:

And far as Gorki goes:

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Sea Mexican!  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:29:19am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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A humble addition to this thread: the engineer that represents the PREPA (PR electric power authority) was nominated and confirmed by the current PNP administration. He already has had some controversies, where he paid a legislator to guarantee (sorry, I couldn’t find it in English). Business as usual, sadly, especially from a Rosselló administration.

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dangerman  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:34:24am

the president.
of the united states.
cant compose a coherent thought
any thought.

repeated from below because it is blistering and brutal

It’s not exactly a news flash at this point that Donald Trump isn’t very fluent on questions of public policy, but his interview over the weekend with Fox Business Channel’s Maria Bartiromo is really a sobering reminder of the levels of ignorance and dishonesty that the country is dealing with

That makes the extent to which he manages to flub the interview all the more striking. He’s simply incapable of discussing any topic at any length in anything remotely resembling an informed or coherent way

read it all and the comments

the comments at political-wire too

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:40:14am

All around the globe, the anti-globalists are organizing.

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Citizen K  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:43:01am

re: #78 I Would Prefer Not To

All around the globe, the anti-globalists are organizing.

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Cognitive dissonance not only isn’t a detriment to these folks, it’s a pre-requisite.

Keep in mind, there seems to be a genuine right-wing wave that seems to be constantly winning world-wide anyways, so they’re still clearly winning on this measure, depressing as that is.

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jeffreyw  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:43:56am

Imgur


Good morning!

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:52:19am

WTF

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Citizen K  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:58:41am

re: #81 The Vicious Babushka

WTF

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Has any administration been this insistent on the guilt of an election opponent post-election?

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I cannot.  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:59:22am

Some big news buried…

And some LOLZ

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:02:19am

re: #82 Citizen K

Has any administration been this insistent on the guilt of an election opponent post-election?

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Citizen K  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:04:32am

re: #84 The Vicious Babushka

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Because clearly they’re selling the myth that they won despite Russia being SUPER DUPER in the tank for Clinton, with the power of REAL ‘MERICA.

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:11:01am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. We’ve got scattered power outages here in NJ and some downed trees affected mass transit. 23,000 without power in NJ, thousands more lost power in the Carolinas as tornadoes and severe weather came through.

That gets major news coverage.

The fact that more than a month after Maria hit, more than 77% of Puerto Rico is still without power. A third of the island is still without safe drinking water. Telcom is still spotty.

That’s a month after the storm hit.

The media has dropped the story from its coverage.

They spent more time covering Haiti earthquake than they are with the failed disaster response from the Trump admin. This is absolutely unconscionable.

Major news outlets can run a graphic showing power restoration efforts in a 150x150 bug somewhere on the front of their websites. It takes next to no effort to make and update, and it would be a visual reminder that Trump has completely fucked up the disaster response and he’s funneling money to his cronies to do work they’re unqualified to do.

Everything about this administration is a kakistocracy and kleptocracy. What isn’t bolted down is something they can pilfer and exploit, if they know how to undo the tie-downs. Trump is doing lasting damage to the nation, all to the applause of a know-nothing GOP base who thinks they benefit from tax cuts that are funneled to millionaires like Trump while everyone else gets fucked over with higher taxes, more burdens, and less services.

Yeah, who do you think is hurt when Medicare is cut $400 billion and Medicaid $1 trillion over 10 years? It isn’t millionaires like Trump. It’s Trump’s know-nothing base who believes everything the con artist says. There’s more than $5 trillion in cuts over 10 years, which is a massive gutting of basic services and government services.

The GOP is insuring that Trump’s response to Maria will be the model for all future disaster response because the government is incapable of doing the job. They are actively sabotaging functioning government in every conceivable way, up to and especially by putting know-nothing and extremist judges on the bench to tilt the playing field even further to help the wealthy and screw minorities, women, and all the rest.

GOP delenda est.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:11:40am

re: #84 The Vicious Babushka

Well there was that meeting Hillary had with the Russians who promised dirt on DJT…oh no wait it was DJT who met with the Russians who promised dirt on Hillary because “anybody would have taken that meeting”.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:12:51am

re: #81 The Vicious Babushka

WTF

“Although collusion is ‘OK’ if we did it, not illegal!”

/

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:16:20am
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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:19:01am

re: #86 lawhawk

Is this the worst time to be an American? At least in the depression we came together.

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:25:36am

re: #90 Unshaken Defiance

Not sure. I think there’s a 1/3 of the country who thinks this is awesome - that they’re giving it to the minorities who have struggled for centuries to get some measure of civil and legal protections and equal rights and are now watching those protections get eroded so the bigot brigade can feel better about themselves.

I think there’s about 1/3 of the nation who is seriously concerned about the harms, but wonder what they could do to change things. Of this number, probably half don’t vote regularly and don’t care about who is put on the judiciary.

There’s probably 1/6 who think that Clinton would be even worse than Trump having bought the Russian Kool Aid. This includes the die hard far right wraparound to the far left (Bernie/Stein rainbow connection).

The remaining 1/6 are probably shruggie. In that mix are the billionaires who think they’ll make money no matter what and can ride out whatever political inconveniences they might experience and would stand to profit no matter who’s in office.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:26:08am
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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:26:16am
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Citizen K  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:29:36am

re: #91 lawhawk

Not sure. I think there’s a 1/3 of the country who thinks this is awesome - that they’re giving it to the minorities who have struggled for centuries to get some measure of civil and legal protections and equal rights and are now watching those protections get eroded so the bigot brigade can feel better about themselves.

I think there’s about 1/3 of the nation who is seriously concerned about the harms, but wonder what they could do to change things. Of this number, probably half don’t vote regularly and don’t care about who is put on the judiciary.

There’s probably 1/6 who think that Clinton would be even worse than Trump having bought the Russian Kool Aid. This includes the die hard far right wraparound to the far left (Bernie/Stein rainbow connection).

The remaining 1/6 are probably shruggie. In that mix are the billionaires who think they’ll make money no matter what and can ride out whatever political inconveniences they might experience and would stand to profit no matter who’s in office.

This is no way to run a country.

It IS a way to run a country into the ground, however. And it seems like this administration is intent on doing that while grifting every cent they can before they make out like bandits in the night.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:32:13am

re: #91 lawhawk

Watching so many of the best things we do as a country (edit come apart bit by bit) is why I say that. Just bearing witness is hard enough. The dis empowered majority of us.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:33:39am

Hello, everybody! I now finally have Internet access in my apartment here in China, so I’ll be around more than I’ve been the last several days.

I’ve been here a week and a half, and hit the ground running, teaching about 20 hours a week. I took over another teacher’s classes, so the first few days were spent learning what she had already covered with the students. I’m surprised how many of my fellow expat teachers are old farts like me — five of the nine are over 60, and the others are in the late 20s and mid-30s. Apparently, there was some serious turnover before I arrived, with one bloke obviously suffering from Alzheimer’s symptoms and another just plainly mentally ill. They got sent home. The teacher I replaced has some problems with her documentation not being in order, so she’s had to sort all that out back home in South Africa and in her former place of employment - South Korea. And one prospective teacher, who was supposed to arrive a few days after I did, up and decided he didn’t want to deal with all the documentation hassles and stayed home.

One of the old farts here has to go home very soon to Newfoundland for prostate surgery.

We’re running with only half the expected staff positions filled. Peachy, eh?

Aside from all the employment issues, things are going reasonably well for me. It’s nice to be back in the classroom after my extended holiday.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:36:36am

hey family farms, here’s a gift for ya!

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Citizen K  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:37:28am

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

hey family farms, here’s a gift for ya!

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But at least killing the estate tax will save them money, right?….right?….

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:38:35am

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #98 Citizen K

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:39:25am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:40:26am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:41:12am
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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:41:39am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:42:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:43:38am
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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:45:20am

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

Surely DJT will take the high road here and not co….

Oh wait, what am I saying.

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:46:02am

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:46:06am

re: #85 Citizen K

Because clearly they’re selling the myth that they won despite Russia being SUPER DUPER in the tank for Clinton, with the power of REAL ‘MERICA.

It’s all they have at this point. The stack of evidence against Donny is growing higher and higher, so their only option is to argue that “both sides” colluded and thus if Democrats go after them then they’ll also have to go after Hillary.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:46:46am

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hey, I’m happy he’s come to this realization at all. I know, the soft bigotry of low expectations (or something like that).

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:48:43am

re: #108 Targetpractice

It’s all they have at this point. The stack of evidence against Donny is growing higher and higher, so their only option is to argue that “both sides” colluded and thus if Democrats go after them then they’ll also have to go after Hillary.

Although it makes absolutely no sense to simultaneously argue this AND that there was nothing wrong with collusion with Russia, that anybody would have done it, etc.

But the Foxheads and Limbats will eat it up along with everything else forcefed to them because Hurr, hurr the evil stupid libtards hate Trump!

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ObserverArt  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:51:52am

re: #90 Unshaken Defiance

Is this the worst time to be an American? At least in the depression we came together.

Trump time in America is pretty depressing. So, maybe he will make us come together again out of pure need much like the 30s.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:52:02am

Huckaboo couldn’t help herself today:

No Sarah, it’s not “cheap” because it cost the lives of four of our soldiers. And Niger’s looking worse than Benghazi with each new revelation because it actually does involve our troops being put in a hostile situation and effectively abandoned.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:52:21am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:53:11am

heh

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:54:35am

Again, Republicans only grow balls as soon as they’re on the way out the door. If he were running for reelection, Corker’s nose would be buried in Trump’s taint with the rest of his party.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:55:12am
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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:57:39am

re: #112 Targetpractice

Sarah Sanders: Comparing Niger to Benghazi is ‘just a cheap attempt to try to taint this president’
— Raw Story

Translation: Only we’re allowed to politicize a tragedy overseas.

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Kilroy was here  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:58:13am

re: #81 The Vicious Babushka

I’m so confused

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:02:39am

re: #29 teleskiguy

That’s a classic among classics of the Alex Jones raging cockcokehead genre. It’s also kind of old, from last April.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:03:51am
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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:04:04am

re: #112 Targetpractice

Sarah Sanders: Comparing Niger to Benghazi is ‘just a cheap attempt to try to taint this president’
— Raw Story

Heh, ‘taint’ this president. As if every day isn’t an episode of DJT tainting himself, his office, and the country.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:05:19am

he’s still ranting

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:05:31am

I can’t wait to see the script: Michael Bay is going to produce a Dora the Explorer movie.

This made me laugh for nearly a minute.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:06:20am

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And any moron who kisses enough ass can join Trump’s administration.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:06:45am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:06:58am

Sarah ‘Squealer” Huckabee Sanders.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:08:20am

re: #125 Dave In Austin

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I’m glad Corker is speaking out but at the same time, it’s hollow given that he was silent while Trump attacked other people and now only is vocal after it’s directed at him.

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ObserverArt  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:08:49am

re: #107 lawhawk

lawhawk @lawhawk
Did Corker not see @realDonaldTrump from day 1 of the campaign attack minorities, women, and come out and admit to being sex predator?
9:43 AM - Oct 24, 2017

Easy excuse. The Trump during the campaign was just doing what he needed to win an election. That is called election politics. No one takes that serious you know.

They were sure they could count on him “pivoting” and then turning normal person and learning or being taught on the job.

They were conned, like America was conned. Corker is just the first guy willing to admit he was conned. The other seemed to be prepared to be conned more because they are scared of the Big Bad Bannon.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:08:55am

re: #123 Belafon

I can’t wait to see the script: Michael Bay is going to produce a Dora the Explorer movie.

This made me laugh for nearly a minute.

The last foster cat we had before this “new” one was named Nora. I called her Nora the Explorer.

I put “new” in quotes because this one we have now has been with us 2 times before. I am trying to talk my wife into just adopting this one, this cat has had a hard life and needs a permanent place. And she is so cute, jet black and soft as anything.

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ObserverArt  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:09:42am

re: #108 Targetpractice

It’s all they have at this point. The stack of evidence against Donny is growing higher and higher, so their only option is to argue that “both sides” colluded and thus if Democrats go after them then they’ll also have to go after Hillary.

Good. Let’s kick Hillary out of the White House the same time we kick Trump out.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:09:47am

re: #127 HappyWarrior

I’m glad Corker is speaking out but at the same time, it’s hollow given that he was silent while Trump attacked other people and now only is vocal after it’s directed at him.

Yep, the old “this would be funny if it wasn’t happening to me” stance.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:09:48am

re: #127 HappyWarrior

I’m glad Corker is speaking out but at the same time, it’s hollow given that he was silent while Trump attacked other people and now only is vocal after it’s directed at him.

Let’s see how he actually VOTES. My bet? No change.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:10:33am

re: #132 GlutenFreeJesus

Let’s see how he actually VOTES. My bet? No change.

There’s that too.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:11:12am

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I thought we had this discussion during the Obama years, when wingnuts insisted that anybody who slung insults and innuendo at the black man in the White House was a “journalist” if they claimed to be one.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:11:29am

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sarah Huckabee Sanders: “Now anybody with a computer can be a journalist”
— The Hill

Is Sarah whining about too much journalism going on in the age of Herr Trump?

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:12:15am

re: #134 Targetpractice

I thought we had this discussion during the Obama years, when wingnuts insisted that anybody who slung insults and innuendo at the black man in the White House was a “journalist” if they claimed to be one.

That was fine but everyone needs to shut up now, except Fox News and Breitbart, because Trump is MAGA.

//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:14:17am

re: #123 Belafon

I can’t wait to see the script: Michael Bay is going to produce a Dora the Explorer movie.

This made me laugh for nearly a minute.

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sizzzzlerz  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:14:18am

re: #19 Targetpractice

Jim’s joking, but there’s plenty of wingnuts who think that’s the answer. That we need a Berlin Wall-style edifice backed up by machine guns, mines, concertina wire, and electrified fencing. With perhaps a few crucified corpses to serve as “warnings.”

Heads on pikes is also a favorite. Reminds the natives who is in charge.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:14:40am

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

Isn’t it sad that lightweight Senator Bob Corker, who couldn’t get re-elected in the Great State of Tennessee, will now fight Tax Cuts plus!
— Donald J. Trump

Is ‘Tax Cuts Plus!’ the tax cut slogan or is it, ‘Tax Cuts, plus other very good policy stuffs’?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:16:39am
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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:19:21am

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

Isn’t it sad that lightweight Senator Bob Corker, who couldn’t get re-elected in the Great State of Tennessee, will now fight Tax Cuts plus!

— Donald J. Trump

Let’s try this—

Isn’t it sad that lightweight Senator Max Baucus, who couldn’t get re-elected in the Great State of Montana, will now fight Obamacare plus!
—Barack Obama

Nah, doesn’t work, does it?

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:20:41am

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Mike, we need another Transformers movie. After the last one, we’ll take pretty much anything.”

“Guys, I do not want to do another one of those movies. I’ll do anything.”

“Well, we do need a director for a live-action Dora the Explorer movie.”

“…fuck it, where do I sign?”

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:20:53am
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Belafon  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:21:27am

Swiper finally takes it all, and snatches Backpack while she’s helping her Abuela with cookies. To get it back, Dora will have to return to her roots. She will have to master her family’s long lost martial arts skills, and come to terms with a past that Dora never wanted to find on the map.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:22:55am

re: #141 Sir John Barron

Let’s try this—

Nah, doesn’t work, does it?

Because Obama doesn’t talk like a human piece of shit.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:23:24am

re: #142 Targetpractice

“Mike, we need another Transformers movie. After the last one, we’ll take pretty much anything.”

Gah!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:23:45am

good freaking grief

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:24:10am

Well obviously Bay is going to age Dora by twenty years and make her hot. Somehow patriotism will be in the story too.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:24:23am

re: #144 Belafon

Swiper finally takes it all, and snatches Backpack while she’s helping her Abuela with cookies. To get it back, Dora will have to return to her roots. She will have to master her family’s long lost martial arts training, and come to terms with a past that Dora never wanted to find on the map.

Many buildings will explode as Dora finds her way to her lost Backpack.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:24:41am

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

good freaking grief

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Galaxy-sized IMAX

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William Lewis  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:24:47am

re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m reminded of my Army room mate who all but worshiped the SS pushing the lie that the Waffen SS were just elite soldiers out to stop communists (and conveniently forgetting that to the Nazis Communist=Jew) and not guilty of the war crimes. I didn’t have as much history then to disprove his contentions as I do now though even then I knew that stank like the liquid manure the Germans used on their fields. I did like annoying him by pointing out that we were right to stomp on the Nazi’s first before worrying about the Soviets because the Nazi’s were a bigger threat to all free peoples. I didn’t use the phrase “existential threat” in the 80’s but would have had I known it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:25:07am

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

good freaking grief

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The world laughs at you, Donald. The rest of us weep about what you’ve done to our country.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:25:27am
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wheat-dogg  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:25:48am

re: #148 HappyWarrior

Well obviously Bay is going to age Dora by twenty years and make her hot. Somehow patriotism will be in the story too.

Dora the Explorer, played by Selena Gomez

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:26:48am

re: #154 wheat-dogg

Dora the Explorer, played by Selena Gomez

Perfect because Selena sings too.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:27:00am

re: #151 William Lewis

I’m reminded of my Army room mate who all but worshiped the SS pushing the lie that the Waffen SS were just elite soldiers out to stop communists (and conveniently forgetting that to the Nazis Communist=Jew)

Wow, that’s kind of hard to believe. Ugh.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:27:34am

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Again it just comes off hollow. Thanks Bob but at the same time….

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:28:21am

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

good freaking grief

What is it now, six tweets about Corker now? Drump’s egoism and sense of grievance is beyond psychopathic.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:28:23am

re: #156 Sir John Barron

Wow, that’s kind of hard to believe. Ugh.

I can believe it. I see people commenting all the time we should have helped the Nazis beat the Soviets.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:28:31am

re: #155 HappyWarrior

Perfect because Selena sings too.

And she knows about economics and playing poker and stuff

(At least enough to do a movie cameo)

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:28:45am

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

Someone needs to accuse him of being belligerent and not knowing when to shut up, and then he can prove it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:30:05am

At least he’s not attacking Mrs. Johnson. Did you guys see they met at age six? Beautiful love story. I feel so awful for her since her kids are so young and won’t have any memories of their Dad.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:30:32am

re: #159 HappyWarrior

I can believe it. I see people commenting all the time we should have helped the Nazis beat the Soviets.

Granted, the Soviets were no bowl of laughs but the Holocaust would have continued otherwise, and there would have been no “Cold War” between US and Germany. It would have been Hot.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:30:42am

Trump once again demonstrating the mindset of a bully, namely engaging in name-calling and empty threats against those who won’t kneel before him.

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William Lewis  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:30:49am

re: #156 Sir John Barron

Wow, that’s kind of hard to believe. Ugh.

It wasn’t uncommon in the Reagan era Army. You could get away with a lot of shit if you weren’t a druggie and would rah rah the Anti-commie rhetoric. It was … interesting … sometimes to be an out socialist in those days.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:31:01am

re: #160 wheat-dogg

And she knows about economics and playing poker and stuff

(At least enough to do a movie cameo)

Maybe have Javier Bardem play Swiper?

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:31:26am

re: #162 HappyWarrior

At least he’s not attacking Mrs. Johnson. Did you guys see they met at age six? Beautiful love story. I feel so awful for her since her kids are so young and won’t have any memories of their Dad.

That was yesterday. Trump has pivoted to a new great enemy.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:32:48am

re: #164 Targetpractice

Trump once again demonstrating the mindset of a bully, namely engaging in name-calling and empty threats against those who won’t kneel before him.

It’s almost as if his overriding impulse is to lash out at those who won’t kneel before him. More important than policy or governing, he requires fawning worship by all his subjects.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:36:32am
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:37:12am
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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:38:10am

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Question to wingnuts: What “leadership” has Trump shown on tax cuts that Obama did not show with the ACA?

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:39:59am

re: #171 Targetpractice

Question to wingnuts: What “leadership” has Trump shown on tax cuts that Obama did not show with the ACA?

Yelling.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:40:19am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:41:44am

re: #163 Sir John Barron

Granted, the Soviets were no bowl of laughs but the Holocaust would have continued otherwise, and there would have been no “Cold War” between US and Germany. It would have been Hot.

Yes. I mean Stalin was awful and the USSR deserves its reputation but we did the right thing first with Lend Lease then fighting the Nazis. And for sure, there would have been no Cold War with the Nazis. The Soviets to their credit had much more pragmatic leaders.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:43:26am

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

‘Transformers’ director Michael Bay is producing a live action Dora the Explorer movie

So, they’re going to make her a teenager. Really

I wait to see how much they will whitewash the character

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:45:51am

re: #175 FormerDirtDart

So, they’re going to make her a teenager. Really

I wait to see how much they will whitewash the character

Get rid of the Spanish?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:47:33am

re: #176 HappyWarrior

Get rid of the Spanish?

As long as she doesn’t have to chamber the charges for a 16 inch gun.

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:49:48am

re: #175 FormerDirtDart

There was a preteen version of Dora: Dora and Friends: Into the City.

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retired cynic  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:50:45am

Charlie Pierce hits the Whitefish story….

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Decatur Deb  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:52:15am

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

“I want to thank President Trump for his leadership,” @SpeakerRyan says of tax cuts. “We are on the verge of doing something very historic.”

“I want to thank Odysseus for this horse,” @KingPriam says of the gift. “We are on the verge of doing something very historic.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:54:47am

Ryan proving himself to be a man without any sort of scruples or ethics at all.Tax cuts uber alles.

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MsJ  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:55:13am

re: #40 FormerDirtDart

JUST IN: @usairforce Chief @GenDaveGoldfein Helps Young Airman Locate Family In Puerto Rico defenseone.com

Now THAT is leadership!

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:57:07am

re: #176 HappyWarrior

Get rid of the Spanish?

Well, she’s supposed to be an indigenous Mexican. So, pretty much any Mexican American actress will be a significant whitewashing

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:58:27am

re: #183 FormerDirtDart

Well, she’s supposed to be an indigenous Mexican. So, pretty much any Mexican American actress will be a significant whitewashing

Yeah when Dora sounds like a valley girl.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 7:59:38am

If they ever did the show with an actual little girl, I’d say my niece would be perfect heh. I’m biased but she does speak Spanish as well as English, she’s adorable, and very charismatic. She’s half Peruvian and half Anglo though.

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William Lewis  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:03:46am

re: #181 HappyWarrior

Ryan proving himself to be a man without any sort of scruples or ethics at all.Tax cuts uber alles.

His purpose in life has always been the destruction of the US economy.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:05:48am

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

“I want to thank President Trump for his leadership,” @SpeakerRyan says of tax cuts. “We are on the verge of doing something very historic.”
— Sahil Kapur

“Deficits now are merely ‘very large’. We’re close to making them ‘astronomic’. Inequality is also only ‘significant’. We’re about to make inequality ‘atmospheric’. “

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retired cynic  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:06:35am

Nancy LeTourneau in the Washington Monthly talks about what DT does not know:

There is still much to be written about what Trump doesn’t know. But the one thing we can be certain of is that he maintained an itemized list of Obama’s accomplishments and made the negation of Obama’s legacy the foundation of his presidency.

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William Lewis  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:08:31am

re: #183 FormerDirtDart

Well, she’s supposed to be an indigenous Mexican. So, pretty much any Mexican American actress will be a significant whitewashing

It would be fun if they found a classically Mayan looking young woman to play the role. Some very beautiful people down in the Yucatan area. But yeah, they’ll get out the whitewash instead.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:09:01am

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Until now, paying off the national debt has always appeared possible, if not likely. Those days are over. We’re about to make that likelihood impossible, beyond comprehension. Truly historic. “

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:10:10am

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

But, hey, ‘tax cuts’!

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:13:00am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:14:43am

re: #192 FormerDirtDart

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That could be huge given Saudi Arabia’s place not just as a leader in the Muslim world but its place in Muslim culture.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:15:16am

re: #174 HappyWarrior

Yes. I mean Stalin was awful and the USSR deserves its reputation but we did the right thing first with Lend Lease then fighting the Nazis. And for sure, there would have been no Cold War with the Nazis. The Soviets to their credit had much more pragmatic leaders.

Ever read Robert Harris’ Archangel? It’s alternative historical fiction (what would have happened if….). Archangel is a re-imagining of post-Soviet Union Russia in the ‘90’s.

In the same vein, Fatherland is Harris’ reimagining of WWII if the Nazis had won. Both are pretty good.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:15:36am

re: #189 William Lewis

It would be fun if they found a classically Mayan looking young woman to play the role. Some very beautiful people down in the Yucatan area. But yeah, they’ll get out the whitewash instead.

Latin America is such a fascinating place isn’t it? That was one of my favorite history classes I took. Made me upset too though knowing our role not just in propping up Pinochet but the Processo in neighboring Argentina.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:15:47am

re: #192 FormerDirtDart

Trump taking credit for this in 5….4…3

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:15:49am

re: #194 Sir John Barron

Ever read Robert Harris’ Archangel? It’s alternative historical fiction (what would have happened if….). Archangel is a re-imagining of post-Soviet Union Russia in the ‘90’s.

In the same vein, Fatherland is Harris’ reimagining of WWII if the Nazis had won. Both are pretty good.

No, I have not.

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retired cynic  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:19:16am

In the Jennifer Rubin — Ana Navarro — Bob Corker spectrum of never-Trumperz, there is Charlie Sykes. Driftglass rips him a new one this morning. Good title!

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:21:20am

re: #192 FormerDirtDart

That’s encouraging to see. He’s pushing back at the hardcore clerics.

Saudi Arabia went really ultra-conservative after the 1979 Masjid al-Haraam incident. It looks like the Crown Prince has realized that the King at that time drew the wrong conclusions - instead of liberalizing further, he went in the opposite direction and made the country even more conservative than it already was.

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plansbandc  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:22:10am

Fnally got around to watching “The Brainwashing of My Dad”. Just watching it was scary enough, being that half of my family is all about watching Fox news and I saw/see the deteriorating of cognitive skills and OTT anger. But, the truly terrifying thing is this country elected an irrationally angry brainwashed Fox News junkie “President”.

The orange bag of shit is the culmination of decades of Right Wing propaganda. I wonder if how things can change given the systematic destruction of truth.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:22:22am

re: #198 retired cynic

In the Jennifer Rubin — Ana Navarro — Bob Corker spectrum of never-Trumperz, there is Charlie Sykes. Driftglass rips him a new one this morning. Good title!

I’m not familiar with Sykes but I’m definitely wary of many of the Never Trumpers. Ana is someone I trust. I’m coming around on Rubin too. Corker seems opportunistic given this has only happened after he announced he wouldn’t run for re-election.

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Jay C  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:23:21am

re: #192 FormerDirtDart

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I wonder what MbS is talking about when he says KSA is “returning” to “moderate” Islam: they have never been “moderate” since forever - and the symbiotic relationship between the hard-line Wahhabist religious establishment and the House of Saud has been what has maintained the latter’s rule for many decades (if not longer).

Sounds like “liberalization” BS for the benefit of a foreign audience: enacting a few “reforms” like letting women (finally) drive - and/or easing up on repression of domestic critics (a bit) - but meanwhile ensuring that the ruling family stays firmly on top.

Hope I’m wrong: but most “reforms” in KSA have proved transitory…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:24:12am

re: #200 plansbandc

Fnally got around to watching “The Brainwashing of My Dad”. Just watching it was scary enough, being that half of my family is all about watching Fox news and I saw/see the deteriorating of cognitive skills and OTT anger. But, the truly terrifying thing is this country elected an irrationally angry brainwashed Fox News junkie “President”.

The orange bag of shit is the culmination of decades of Right Wing propaganda. I wonder if how things can change given the systematic destruction of truth.

It sounds like an interesting watch. I wouldn’t be able to relate though. Not only does my Dad dislike Trump and Trumpism but his siblings do too. In fact, I don’t know a single one of my first cousins who does like him. Some of my more distant cousins I’ve met through my genealogy research are a little wingnutty though.

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retired cynic  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:25:07am

re: #201 HappyWarrior

I’m not familiar with Sykes but I’m definitely wary of many of the Never Trumpers. Ana is someone I trust. I’m coming around on Rubin too. Corker seems opportunistic given this has only happened after he announced he wouldn’t run for re-election.

He’s a conservative radio host from Wisconsin, who has “suddenly realized” the trajectory of his rhetoric.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:25:49am

Shapiro is a “Never Trump” I don’t trust at all given he continues to act like Trump is a product of the left and thus the “left’s fault”. He totally ignores that he had no problem taking Steve Bannon’s money and was chummy with Milo until the Antisemites turned on Ben after Ben to his credit did defend the reporter that Corey attacked.

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William Lewis  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:26:06am

re: #192 FormerDirtDart

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Well, he just bet his head on it - because if he fails, his neck will get the sword.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:26:24am

re: #204 retired cynic

He’s a conservative radio host from Wisconsin, who has “suddenly realized” the trajectory of his rhetoric.

Yeah some of the Wisconsites have mentioned him here. Just not familiar with his past rhetoric.

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makeitstop  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:27:50am

re: #201 HappyWarrior

I’m not familiar with Sykes but I’m definitely wary of many of the Never Trumpers. Ana is someone I trust. I’m coming around on Rubin too. Corker seems opportunistic given this has only happened after he announced he wouldn’t run for re-election.

Sykes was a small-market hate radio talker who went Never Trump - which happened to coincide with his retirement from hate radio.

Another one who waited until he was beyond consequences before speaking up.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:28:05am

re: #198 retired cynic

In the Jennifer Rubin — Ana Navarro — Bob Corker spectrum of never-Trumperz, there is Charlie Sykes. Driftglass rips him a new one this morning. Good title!

I’m on the same level as Drift, this sudden outpouring of “shock” and “disbelief” by the #NeverTrump crowd is such a crock that anybody who buys it should have their heads examined. These fuckers are not born-again and suddenly coming to terms with the realities of the modern world, they’re trying to save their sorry asses from the very horrors that they conjured into being over the span of decades.

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electrotek  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:29:49am

re: #193 HappyWarrior

That could be huge given Saudi Arabia’s place not just as a leader in the Muslim world but its place in Muslim culture.

I’m not holding my breath on this unless they also tackle rising sectarianism and hatred of Muslim minorities as well.

Although, on the comments section of a story about KSA opening up cinemas soon, many Pakistanis lamented over the downfall of KSA and turning it into Las Vegas. Yes, bringing cinemas in is tantamount to turning it into the next Las Vegas to idiotic Pakistanis obsessed with Islam.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:32:37am

re: #209 Targetpractice

I’m on the same level as Drift, this sudden outpouring of “shock” and “disbelief” by the #NeverTrump crowd is such a crock that anybody who buys it should have their heads examined. These fuckers are not born-again and suddenly coming to terms with the realities of the modern world, they’re trying to save their sorry asses from the very horrors that they conjured into being over the span of decades.

I don’t think much of it is genuine, and there was certainly more that the alleged NeverTrumpers could have done to prevent this calamity. But there is a big part of me that doesn’t care. This gets so deep under Trump’s skin and I love it.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:34:11am

re: #199 Dr Lizardo

That’s encouraging to see. He’s pushing back at the hardcore clerics.

Saudi Arabia went really ultra-conservative after the 1979 Masjid al-Haraam incident. It looks like the Crown Prince has realized that the King at that time drew the wrong conclusions - instead of liberalizing further, he went in the opposite direction and made the country even more conservative than it already was.

You know, as soon as I saw the report on the Crown Prince’s statement, my immediate thought was that there will likely be another attack on the Grand Mosque.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:34:53am

I mean I’m glad to have any help against Trump but at the same time, I want conservatives to acknowledge either their direct role in making someone like Trump palatable to the GOP base or indirect role in continuing to vote GOP. Acknowledge your party and ideology’s problems and stop acting like Trump doesn’t speak for conservatives and conservatism because he does.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:35:16am

re: #210 electrotek

I’m not holding my breath on this unless they also tackle rising sectarianism and hatred of Muslim minorities as well.

Although, on the comments section of a story about KSA opening up cinemas soon, many Pakistanis lamented over the downfall of KSA and turning it into Las Vegas. Yes, bringing cinemas in is tantamount to turning it into the next Las Vegas to idiotic Pakistanis obsessed with Islam.

Certainly. I was simply speaking about the potential.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:35:44am

I might have taken the #NeverTrump crowd slightly more seriously if they hadn’t spent every waking moment they weren’t distancing themselves from Trump to attack Hillary and the DNC. You send hella mixed messages when you’re screaming “Trump would be a disaster, BUT HILLARY WOULD BE WORSE!!!!”

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electrotek  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:35:51am

re: #199 Dr Lizardo

That’s encouraging to see. He’s pushing back at the hardcore clerics.

Saudi Arabia went really ultra-conservative after the 1979 Masjid al-Haraam incident. It looks like the Crown Prince has realized that the King at that time drew the wrong conclusions - instead of liberalizing further, he went in the opposite direction and made the country even more conservative than it already was.

Don’t forget the Iranian Revolution either.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:37:38am

re: #213 HappyWarrior

I mean I’m glad to have any help against Trump but at the same time, I want conservatives to acknowledge either their direct role in making someone like Trump palatable to the GOP base or indirect role in continuing to vote GOP. Acknowledge your party and ideology’s problems and stop acting like Trump doesn’t speak for conservatives and conservatism because he does.

As we’ve seen ever since Trump was elected, this crowd wants a “Get Out of Jail Free” card, they want us to act as if there’s a division between them and the wingnuts they’ve been gorging on red meat for decades so they bear no responsibility for their actions. Much like after the Dubya years, they want us to pretend that they were always against all the things Trump stands for, even as they’re pushing them in a quieter tone.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:39:14am

re: #212 FormerDirtDart

You know, as soon as I saw the report on the Crown Prince’s statement, my immediate thought was that there will likely be another attack on the Grand Mosque.

That thought occurred to me as well; the hardline extremists won’t like this one iota.

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:39:24am

re: #215 Targetpractice

I might have taken the #NeverTrump crowd slightly more seriously if they hadn’t spent every waking moment they weren’t distancing themselves from Trump to attack Hillary and the DNC. You send hella mixed messages when you’re screaming “Trump would be a disaster, BUT HILLARY WOULD BE WORSE!!!!”

Navarro pretty much screamed “Vote for Hillary!” Actually, I think she did scream it.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:40:02am

re: #219 Belafon

Navarro pretty much screamed “Vote for Hillary!” Actually, I think she did scream it.

There will always be exceptions to the rule.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:41:24am

re: #216 electrotek

Don’t forget the Iranian Revolution either.

Yeah….that turned out to be the really big event in the Islamic world in 1979. The Masjid al-Haraam takeover by that would-be Mahdi nutcase got sort of forgotten in all the chaos of the Iranian Revolution.

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Citizen K  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:42:22am

re: #219 Belafon

Navarro pretty much screamed “Vote for Hillary!” Actually, I think she did scream it.

Navarro and McMullin have, to their credit, been amazingly consistent regarding their views an opposition to Trump. McMullin still pushes some unacceptably conservative economic views, but he’s been one of the few on the right side of the aisle that’s been battering Trump on all angles, especially on the ‘culture’ side of things. Navarro all but campaigned for Hillary herself, as noted, and has been a consistently sane voice herself.

Rubin’s getting there too, to her credit. Sykes and Shapiro can dig a hole though.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:43:45am

Farewell Rocket Man
And, fair winds and following seas Captain

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:44:20am

Thing is, most of the #NeverTrump crowd has engaged in the very sort of behavior that they have attacked Hillary for post-election: Going after Trump’s personal and public snafus rather than the policies he’s pushing and the GOP are pursuing. I doubt you’re going to find too many of his conservative critics declaring that tax cuts are a mistake, or that the ACA deserves to be protected and expanded.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:44:30am

re: #222 Citizen K

Navarro and McMullin have, to their credit, been amazingly consistent regarding their views an opposition to Trump. McMullin still pushes some unacceptably conservative economic views, but he’s been one of the few on the right side of the aisle that’s been battering Trump on all angles, especially on the ‘culture’ side of things. Navarro all but campaigned for Hillary herself, as noted, and has been a consistently sane voice herself.

Rubin’s getting there too, to her credit. Sykes and Shapiro can dig a hole though.

Shapiro is someone who only became Never Trump because he started getting attacked. I respect Ana because Ana’s been against his bigoted message from the start. Evan too. And yeah Evan does have some economic views I dislike but I don’t need Evan to run in my party. I just think he’s an acceptable ally.

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:44:43am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:45:57am

re: #224 Targetpractice

Thing is, most of the #NeverTrump crowd has engaged in the very sort of behavior that they have attacked Hillary for post-election: Going after Trump’s personal and public snafus rather than the policies he’s pushing and the GOP are pursuing. I doubt you’re going to find too many of his conservative critics declaring that tax cuts are a mistake, or that the ACA deserves to be protected and expanded.

A lot of them I feel, that their biggest concern about Trump was that he was going to “sully” conservatism’s “good name.” They were afraid that he was going to make their message look like we all know what modern American conservatism has been: An exclusive, xenophobic, elitist, and overall negative vision of America.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:46:26am

re: #226 JordanRules

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Ah Rostov Rohrabacher.

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Jay C  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:46:35am

re: #217 Targetpractice

As we’ve seen ever since Trump was elected, this crowd wants a “Get Out of Jail Free” card, they want us to act as if there’s a division between them and the wingnuts they’ve been gorging on red meat for decades so they bear no responsibility for their actions. Much like after the Dubya years, they want us to pretend that they were always against all the things Trump stands for, even as they’re pushing them in a quieter tone.

And by “us”, they are definitely including the “mainstream” media - who of course, politely roll over for whatever “respectable” conservative/Republican talking-points are being pushed. Not only are “we” supposed to ignore the “establishment’s” complicity in pushing Cheeto Benito into the Presidency, but under no circumstances at all is anyone ever supposed to criticize - still less castigate - the “Trump voter” (any Trump voter) over the foolishness, or negative consequences of their support for this manifestly unqualified and incompetent buffoon.

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Citizen K  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:47:14am

re: #227 HappyWarrior

A lot of them I feel, that their biggest concern about Trump was that he was going to “sully” conservatism’s “good name.” They were afraid that he was going to make their message look like we all know what modern American conservatism has been: An exclusive, xenophobic, elitist, and overall negative vision of America.

That’s why I respect Ana Navarro most out of the #NeverTrump folks, since she seems to be the most genuine about realizing ‘this is what the party has always been turning into’ and turning away from it consciously.

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electrotek  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:48:57am

re: #230 Citizen K

That’s why I respect Ana Navarro most out of the #NeverTrump folks, since she seems to be the most genuine about realizing ‘this is what the party has always been turning into’ and turning away from it consciously.

It also helps that she is a Latina woman who would be disproportionately affected by Trump’s policies and rhetoric, compared to the other #NeverTrump folks.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:52:10am

re: #230 Citizen K

That’s why I respect Ana Navarro most out of the #NeverTrump folks, since she seems to be the most genuine about realizing ‘this is what the party has always been turning into’ and turning away from it consciously.

Yes. And as I said, she’s been there from the start and she also, she supported Hillary and didn’t try to both sides it. Ana probably does have ideological disagreements with many of us but I do like and respect her because she’s a human being first.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:56:03am

re: #231 electrotek

It also helps that she is a Latina woman who would be disproportionately affected by Trump’s policies and rhetoric, compared to the other #NeverTrump folks.

That is true as well. I think Ana honestly coming from the South Florida GOP, a much more diverse GOP organization than you’ll find most places perhaps didn’t realize how much resentment goes into Republican policies and driving the base. I also think she does have integrity so unlike Rubio, she didn’t jump on board. Not sure what she thinks of him. IIRC Ana was with Jeb.

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makeitstop  Oct 24, 2017 • 8:59:13am

Argument fodder, if you need it: Thrillist: The Best Band from Every State

Discuss.

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makeitstop  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:02:26am

Not much I can add here.

(The laughter goes on for a while.)

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:03:39am

re: #235 makeitstop

Not much I can add here.

(The laughter goes on for a while.)

President of what?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:05:15am

re: #235 makeitstop

Not much I can add here.

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(The laughter goes on for a while.)

Bannon-Cheap Scotch Bottle 2020!

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:05:39am

re: #235 makeitstop

Not much I can add here.

(The laughter goes on for a while.)

Of course we laughed about Trump, too…..

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:06:10am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:07:38am

re: #238 Sir John Barron

Of course we laughed about Trump, too…..

We did.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:08:27am

re: #235 makeitstop

Not much I can add here.

(The laughter goes on for a while.)

In…2024? He looks about 70 now as it is.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:08:37am

re: #238 Sir John Barron

Of course we laughed about Trump, too…..

I still am…..but kinda nervously now.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:09:35am

Jesus fucking christ on a barbed wire tightrope

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:10:31am

re: #243 The Vicious Babushka

Jesus fucking christ on a barbed wire tightrope

BUT HER EMAILS…….

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:11:27am

re: #123 Belafon

I can’t wait to see the script: Michael Bay is going to produce a Dora the Explorer movie.

This made me laugh for nearly a minute.

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ObserverArt  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:15:44am

re: #234 makeitstop

Argument fodder, if you need it: Thrillist: The Best Band from Every State

Discuss.

Television for New York. Me likey.

Isley Brothers for Ohio. Okay…but I don’t consider them a band so much.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:15:49am

re: #243 The Vicious Babushka

Jesus fucking christ on a barbed wire tightrope

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Once again…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:15:57am

re: #243 The Vicious Babushka

Jesus fucking christ on a barbed wire tightrope

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Focused on what matters.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:16:09am

re: #234 makeitstop

Argument fodder, if you need it: Thrillist: The Best Band from Every State

Discuss.

If Tom Petty wasn’t listed for FL I would have a comment.

But he was, of course.

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ObserverArt  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:16:18am

re: #236 Sir John Barron

President of what?

What’s left.

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ObserverArt  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:17:24am

re: #238 Sir John Barron

Of course we laughed about Trump, too…..

Had to upding this comment for brutal accuracy.

WTF happened?

So, who’s laughing now???

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:17:39am

re: #249 Stanley Sea

If Tom Petty wasn’t listed for FL I would have a comment.

But he was, of course.

I was disappointed that Drive By Truckers didn’t at least get mentioned in Alabama.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:19:58am

It’s the parents fault…
Cage William Edwards, they labelled him a dude-bro from birth

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:20:20am

Break out the Ding Dongs and Taco Sauce!

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ObserverArt  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:21:38am

re: #254 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Hey Joe! Thanks for posting my ‘shop.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:22:36am

re: #255 ObserverArt

Hey Joe! Thanks for posting my ‘shop.

I got to admit that he never looked better!

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:29:33am

re: #243 The Vicious Babushka

Jesus fucking christ on a barbed wire tightrope

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One of those “you can’t make this shit up” moments:

The two Republican leaders said they have questions about the FBI’s decision to openly declare the bureau’s investigation into Clinton’s handling of classified information, while quietly investigating Trump campaign associates.

The people who spent much of the past two years bitching that the FBI wasn’t loud enough about its “criminal investigation” into Hillary are now accusing the FBI of being too loud about said “investigation” while quietly looking into Trump.

My bullshit-o-meter just exploded.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:32:10am

re: #252 HappyWarrior

I was disappointed that Drive By Truckers didn’t at least get mentioned in Alabama.

Yeah, they seem to have focused on Philly for Pennsylvania. No mention of Halestorm. I didn’t expect Donnie Iris because of the BAND designation they used for selection criteria. No mention of Rusted Root either, oh well.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:33:52am

But wait, there’s more:

Two new investigations into Hillary, announced on the same day, and both into the actions of the FBI. I’m sure it’s pure coincidence.

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makeitstop  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:34:22am

re: #252 HappyWarrior

I was disappointed that Drive By Truckers didn’t at least get mentioned in Alabama.

Yeah, but the Swampers, dude. Legendary.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:34:59am

re: #259 Targetpractice

But wait, there’s more:

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Two new investigations into Hillary, announced on the same day, and both into the actions of the FBI. I’m sure it’s pure coincidence.

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These guys need to lose their majority like now.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:36:18am

re: #260 makeitstop

Yeah, but the Swampers, dude. Legendary.

Oh I’m sure. Anyhow I need to look at some of these bands. Kentucky has quietly a good scene i.e MMJ and Cage the Elephant.

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makeitstop  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:36:28am

re: #260 makeitstop

Yeah, but the Swampers, dude. Legendary.

I would have gone with a different band from Texas - Kings X or those guys with the beards…

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:39:17am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:40:07am

re: #264 FormerDirtDart

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These assholes.

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whitebeach  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:41:12am

re: #80 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Unless you live next door to a park or golf course, now I’m going to have to hate you not only for breakfasts you make but also for your lawn. The dog’s OK, though.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:41:56am

re: #265 FormerDirtDart

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Well at least he’s in Australia doing that. It seems his fifteen minutes ran out here. But it seems like he’s going the Alex Jones route. He’s such a pathetic little loser.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:42:46am

re: #264 FormerDirtDart

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After months of trying to push the conclusion that the Russia probe is a “witch hunt” and deliberately attempting to sabotage it such that he eventually “recused” himself, David Nunes decides to bullshit us all that he’s going to give a genuine investigation into the “facts” of the latest Republican effort to smear Hillary.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:43:03am

Milobis nothing but a grown up version of that kid who would try too hard to be funny in class but just came off like an obnoxious jackass.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:43:47am

re: #269 Targetpractice

After months of trying to push the conclusion that the Russia probe is a “witch hunt” and deliberately attempting to sabotage it such that he eventually “recused” himself, David Nunes decides to bullshit us all that he’s going to give a genuine investigation into the “facts” of the latest Republican effort to smear Hillary.

Devin not David, don’t smear that good name and no my nane’s not Dave.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:49:40am
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gocart mozart  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:50:22am

re: #263 makeitstop

I would have gone with a different band from Texas - Kings X or those guys with the beards…

How is Stevie Ray Vaugn and Double Trouble not the best band from Texas?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:56:19am

re: #265 FormerDirtDart

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And it’s still doing Rebekkah Mercer’s dirty work…

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dangerman  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:56:25am

bob corker - courage

He added: “I think at the end of the day, when his term is over. I think the debasing of our nation, the constant not truth telling, just the name calling, the things… I think the debasement of our nation will be what he’ll be remembered most for and that’s regretful.”

watch me do it with one word: lying

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electrotek  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:56:48am

re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I posted it on my FB and of course the usual dissenters claim it was “stupid” and here’s the kicker:

Give how unscientific the methodology was I’m surprised the numbers were not higher. I dont expect the Army Times to be a bastion of market research but the way they conducted the study was embarrassingly poor. Research done in an open methodology like that is usually conducted to prove a point

/facepalm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:58:31am

Re Puerto Rico: In private tag because it’s just a rumor right now.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 9:59:06am

The general theme of today’s two announcement from the House GOP is that the FBI is either incompetent or deliberately criminal, which goes hand-in-hand with their efforts to claim that those charged with investigating Trump and Russia are actively working to undermine him.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:05:39am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:06:31am

re: #63 goddamnedfrank

My block list is up to 17945 assholes.

Damn, I’ve only blocked 62 accounts, and some of those are bots rather than actual assholes.

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MsJ  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:07:29am
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:07:36am
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:10:59am

Longer, includes more post throw activities

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:11:58am
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mmmirele  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:12:35am

Ugh, just ugh. And I am pretty sure this guy is still not telling the complete truth.

The little girl disappeared on Oct. 7. Her body was found in a culvert on Sunday.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:12:45am

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Skip Intro  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:13:40am

re: #286 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Can’t people just start using the very excellent word “lies”?

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dangerman  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:16:08am

re: #286 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

.@SenBobCorker to @mkraju just now: “Everything” Trump said in his tweets today are “provable untruths

re: #275 dangerman

again watch me do it with one word: lying

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dangerman  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:17:11am

re: #287 Skip Intro

Can’t people just start using the very excellent word “lies”?

you beat me be mere minutes
my lying was bigger

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:17:39am

re: #269 Targetpractice

After months of trying to push the conclusion that the Russia probe is a “witch hunt” and deliberately attempting to sabotage it such that he eventually “recused” himself, David Nunes decides to bullshit us all that he’s going to give a genuine investigation into the “facts” of the latest Republican effort to smear Hillary.

I look forward to Nunes in 2018 saying he regretted supporting Drumpf and obstructing justice in regards to the Russia collusion.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:18:54am

re: #284 FormerDirtDart

Next Erick son of Erick: Antifa Left is violently throwing flags at Republicans.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:19:06am

another thought about this Whitefish Energy thing: the company describing the linemen being hired as “subcontractors” raises all sorts of red flags on several levels.

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Sea Mexican!  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:19:09am

re: #277 Backwoods_Sleuth

Re Puerto Rico: In private tag because it’s just a rumor right now.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:20:10am

re: #283 FormerDirtDart

Full video: Chaos erupts as President Trump enters the Senate GOP lunch and a protester posing as a reporter begins yelling about treason.
— Emma Loop

Tip: Trump brings the chaos with him. He is chaos.

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jeffreyw  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:20:30am

re: #267 whitebeach

Unless you live next door to a park or golf course, now I’m going to have to hate you not only for breakfasts you make but also for your lawn. The dog’s OK, though.

That’s Katie, a rescue that escaped a few days after we brought her from the shelter. She hung around but we could not get close enough to catch her for a couple of months. Finally trapped her on a cooperative neighbor’s porch where she was sneaking meals off of scraps he put out. She’s still very shy after four years with us. Here she is the day we finally recaptured her:

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electrotek  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:21:11am

On another note, I was bummed that I lost out on the auction of a car I really wanted overseas last week :(

And no it wasn’t eBay. It was the Japanese car auctions that move 10,000-20,000 vehicles weekly.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:21:39am

re: #284 FormerDirtDart

When will Hillary disavow?!?!??!?!

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rhuarc  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:22:13am

re: #282 FormerDirtDart

Who wants to bet that the Trump administration uses this as a reason to further restrict press access to the President?

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:22:44am

re: #234 makeitstop

Argument fodder, if you need it: Thrillist: The Best Band from Every State

Discuss.

Honestly, outside of Minnesota (Prince & the Revolution) and Florida (Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers) i disagree with just about every pick they made.

For example, California - how the hell do you put the Beach Boys ahead of groups like The Eagles and The Grateful Dead? Surfer music during the 1960s was relatively short-lived in popularity, and Brian Wilson wasn’t exactly a musical revolutionary.

Washington State is even worse - Sleater-Kinney? Over Pearl Jam, Foo Fighters, Nirvana and The Jimi Hendrix Experience? At least put some effort into writing this list, guys.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:23:32am
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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:24:04am

re: #264 FormerDirtDart

Trey Gowdy’s Benghazi Congressional Committee was the height of ridiculousness.

Nunes: Hold my beer.

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dangerman  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:26:38am

re: #292 Backwoods_Sleuth

another thought about this Whitefish Energy thing: the company describing the linemen being hired as “subcontractors” raises all sorts of red flags and several levels.

in simple terms, if whitefish is telling them what to do when to do it and how to do it they are employees.

they’d have to be supplying their own tools, equipment, trucks, supplies, billing whitefish for time and materials for their services, have other clients, advertise, have a phone number, business cards, solicit business from others in the market, …..

what most people dont get is re: irs and taxes, “subcontractor”, “independent” “1099 payee” status etc is not based on an agreement between two parties. its based on facts and circumstances, not any sort of contract or understanding

one really neat thing is if they are paid as independents and so they pay their own self employment tax, if the company is audited later on, the irs can collect the same payroll taxes all over again (with hefty penalties and interest). the individual doesnt get his portion back.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:27:07am

re: #299 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Wisconsin

Garbage
America’s most dairy-laden state has given the world so much more than the Packers and extra-sharp cheddar. Mainly Garbage. The Madison group served as the Midwestern vanguard of grunge-twinged alternative rock, with Butch Vig — the guy who produced Nirvana’s Nevermind, Sonic Youth’s Dirty, and Smashing Pumpkins’ Siamese Dream — on drums and a viciously blasé Shirley Manson belting out lyrics to massive hits like “Stupid Girl” and “Only Happy When It Rains.” Early indie stars like Violent Femmes and guitar god Steve Miller’s eponymous band also deserve mentioning in any record of notable Wisconsin bands, but none of them put out a song as good as “Queer.”

Fact Check: True

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:27:44am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:30:35am

re: #245 Ace-o-aces

[[Dora trailer by College Humor]]

Even though it was College Humor, I am still not convinced it is not a parody.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:31:01am

re: #302 dangerman

in simple terms, if whitefish is telling them what to do when to do it and how to do it they are employees.

they’d have to be supplying their own tools, equipment, trucks, supplies, billing whitefish for time and materials for their services, have other clients, advertise, have a phone number, business cards, solicit business from others in the market, …..

what most people dont get is re: irs and taxes, “subcontractor”, “independent” “1099 payee” status etc is not based on an agreement between two parties. its based on facts and circumstances, not any sort of contract or understanding

one really neat thing is if they are paid as independents and so they pay their own self employment tax, if the company is audited later on, the irs can collect the same payroll taxes all over again (with hefty penalties and interest). the individual doesnt get his portion back.

Bolded part is exactly what MrBWS said when I told him about the Whitefish thing. Only he said “bullshit” not “red flags”.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:32:19am
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dangerman  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:34:48am

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bolded part is exactly what MrBWS said when I told him about the Whitefish thing. Only he said “bullshit” not “red flags”.

yup

the whole contract is such an obvious scam - there’s no company infrastructure there so they have no capacity for a job like this. they’d have to buy it fast - lots of people and equipment, or rent it which is what they’re trying to do

this small part - fleecing the workers, is just an attempt to save on the benefits and probably transfer some liability

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Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:34:55am

re: #295 jeffreyw

That’s Katie, a rescue that escaped a few days after we brought her from the shelter. She hung around but we could not get close enough to catch her for a couple of months. Finally trapped her on a cooperative neighbor’s porch where she was sneaking meals off of scraps he put out. She’s still very shy after four years with us. Here she is the day we finally recaptured her:

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Wasn’t there another photo just like the one you posted, sitting in the chair, but with a cat? Or is my memory faulty?

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makeitstop  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:35:40am

re: #299 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

For example, California - how the hell do you put the Beach Boys ahead of groups like The Eagles and The Grateful Dead? Surfer music during the 1960s was relatively short-lived in popularity, and Brian Wilson wasn’t exactly a musical revolutionary.

I’d disagree vociferously with the bolded. Wilson brought pop music to a level of sophistication that was so astounding, even The Beatles saw his work as the standard they should try to meet.

I would easily put Brian Wilson in the pantheon of American composers of any Genre. He’s right up there with Gershwin and Aaron Copeland in my book.

Washington State is even worse - Sleater-Kinney? Over Pearl Jam, Foo Fighters, Nirvana and The Jimi Hendrix Experience? At least put some effort into writing this list, guys.

Read the rules. Native bands.

Eddie Vedder was from San Diego.
Dave Grohl was from Baltimore.
Noel Redding and Mitch Mitchell were from England. Hardly locals.

And the Foo Fighters are literally from all over the country.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:36:11am

re: #254 Joe Bacon 🌹

It’s unfair to Zippy to associate him with T.G.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:36:40am

re: #307 FormerDirtDart

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There’s a racial and gender divide too.

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Interesting Times  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:39:29am

re: #307 FormerDirtDart

Look at the group that gives him almost a 60% approval rating o_O

…is this the type of thing that led to the old expression “Tell it to the Marines”…?

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:40:48am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:42:47am

re: #314 FormerDirtDart

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I’m taking the widow’s words over some hacks who want to project Trump as some sort of gentleman. It’s not illogical to suggest it at all.

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:43:44am

re: #314 FormerDirtDart

If Obama had said to someone “I heard your mother has cancer. That’s sad, but she had you, so that’s good, right?” they would have torn him apart.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:44:48am

What’s unfair is how Kelly continues to not apologize for dragging Wilson’s name through the mud.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:45:41am

re: #316 Belafon

If Obama had said to someone “I heard your mother has cancer. That’s sad, but she had you, so that’s good, right?” they would have torn him apart.

No doubt. And they’d did everything possible to portray Obama and his administration as not respecting the armed forces.

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ObserverArt  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:45:53am

re: #278 Targetpractice

The general theme of today’s two announcement from the House GOP is that the FBI is either incompetent or deliberately criminal, which goes hand-in-hand with their efforts to claim that those charged with investigating Trump and Russia are actively working to undermine him.

I would think all of this is really going to piss off the FBI. And since Mueller was FBI, I think he will be even more interested in these new investigations. I’m sure he sees all of this as Congress covering for Trump. The danger too is by hinting the FBI is undermining Trump you are throwing conservatives under the bus too as the FBI is not made up of one party.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:48:07am

re: #314 FormerDirtDart

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Trump’s intent was pretty obvious, namely to make the call just so he could tell the press the call had been made and to shut up about it. So the call was given the same total lack of attention he gives every task he doesn’t wish to do but is doing to please someone else. He wouldn’t even stick to the respectful (if hackneyed) script that Kelly had approved, which became obvious when he couldn’t remember the name of the man whose widow he was supposedly trying to comfort.

We don’t question his intent behind making the call because it’s obvious his only intent was to make the issue go away. We question why in the holy hell he couldn’t acknowledge that the effort was substandard and apology, instead launching into an attack on a witness and trying to lie to the nation.

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ObserverArt  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:49:20am

re: #287 Skip Intro

Can’t people just start using the very excellent word “lies”?

I always give Lawrence O’Donnell props because he never hesitates to call Trump a liar. And he does it often.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:50:43am

re: #320 Targetpractice

Trump’s intent was pretty obvious, namely to make the call just so he could tell the press the call had been made and to shut up about it. So the call was given the same total lack of attention he gives every task he doesn’t wish to do but is doing to please someone else. He wouldn’t even stick to the respectful (if hackneyed) script that Kelly had approved, which became obvious when he couldn’t remember the name of the man whose widow he was supposedly trying to comfort.

We don’t question his intent behind making the call because it’s obvious his only intent was to make the issue go away. We question why in the holy hell he couldn’t acknowledge that the effort was substandard and apology, instead launching into an attack on a witness and trying to lie to the nation.

Exactly. Just say you fucked up. Oh wait, it’s Trump. He has no humility at all.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:50:55am

re: #316 Belafon

If Obama had said to someone “I heard your mother has cancer. That’s sad, but she had you, so that’s good, right?” they would have torn him apart.

Don’t have to imagine anything, just look at the still smoldering “outrage” over Hillary’s remarks to the families of Benghazi victims.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:50:56am

re: #314 FormerDirtDart

The supposition that Trump offended a grieving soldier’s widow on purpose isn’t just unfair, it’s highly illogical.
— The Federalist

The Federalist can always be counted on to serve up a pro-DrumpF take on any subject at any time, no matter how indefensible.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:51:45am

re: #324 Sir John Barron

The Federalist can always be counted on to serve up a pro-DrumpF take on any subject at any time, no matter how indefensible.

Can I brag again about how awesome it is that Sean Davis at The Federalist has blocked me?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:53:26am

Once again Trump would be nothing without his lackeys.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:54:15am

re: #314 FormerDirtDart

The supposition that Trump offended a grieving soldier’s widow on purpose isn’t just unfair, it’s highly illogical.
— The Federalist

After eight years of anti-Obama hysteria and slime, The Federalist is wailing about something being unfair to Trump.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:55:59am

re: #326 HappyWarrior

Once again Trump would be nothing without his lackeys.

Can we get someone to defend me on Twitter? How much $$$$ will it take?

[John Kelly]No problem, won’t cost anything at all. The Federalist will come up with something any minute now.[/John Kelly]

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:56:05am

re: #123 Belafon

I can’t wait to see the script: Michael Bay is going to produce a Dora the Explorer movie.

This made me laugh for nearly a minute.

Last spring I saw the brilliant Japanese anime movie Your Name.

Then this happened a couple of weeks ago…..

theguardian.com

The recent announcement that the Star Wars director JJ Abrams is to make a live-action version of the record-breaking animated film Your Name has prompted a backlash among fans of the original, who fear another Hollywood “whitewash” of a Japanese masterpiece.

Makoto Shinkai’s fantasy about a teenage girl living in a picturesque but unexciting village and a Tokyo schoolboy who are drawn together by gender-swapping dreams has proved a global hit since its release in Japan last year and made more at the box office than any other animated film in history.

The universally positive reception to its visual brilliance and a storyline that skilfully combines body-swapping, the search for love and a dramatic attempt to save a town from destruction have prompted talk of Shinkai as the successor to the acclaimed director Hayao Miyazaki.

The prospect of a Hollywood remake of Your Name - which made $350m (£260m) in 90 countries - has been greeted with both intrigue and concern over the possible loss of the film’s distinctively Japanese flavour, from its Radwimps original soundtrack to Shinkai’s painstakingly recreated Tokyo landmarks and scenes from Nagano prefecture, where he grew up.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:57:11am

Can’t be long before The Federalist churns out an anti-Bob Corker piece.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 10:58:04am

re: #329 Scottish Dragon

Last spring I saw the brilliant Japanese anime movie Your Name.

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Then this happened a couple of weeks ago…..

theguardian.com

The recent announcement that the Star Wars director JJ Abrams is to make a live-action version of the record-breaking animated film Your Name has prompted a backlash among fans of the original, who fear another Hollywood “whitewash” of a Japanese masterpiece.

Makoto Shinkai’s fantasy about a teenage girl living in a picturesque but unexciting village and a Tokyo schoolboy who are drawn together by gender-swapping dreams has proved a global hit since its release in Japan last year and made more at the box office than any other animated film in history.

The universally positive reception to its visual brilliance and a storyline that skilfully combines body-swapping, the search for love and a dramatic attempt to save a town from destruction have prompted talk of Shinkai as the successor to the acclaimed director Hayao Miyazaki.

The prospect of a Hollywood remake of Your Name - which made $350m (£260m) in 90 countries - has been greeted with both intrigue and concern over the possible loss of the film’s distinctively Japanese flavour, from its Radwimps original soundtrack to Shinkai’s painstakingly recreated Tokyo landmarks and scenes from Nagano prefecture, where he grew up.

Hollywood can’t even do faithful live-action adaptation of American cartoons without fucking them six ways to Sunday.

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ObserverArt  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:00:38am

re: #299 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Honestly, outside of Minnesota (Prince & the Revolution) and Florida (Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers) i disagree with just about every pick they made.

For example, California - how the hell do you put the Beach Boys ahead of groups like The Eagles and The Grateful Dead? Surfer music during the 1960s was relatively short-lived in popularity, and Brian Wilson wasn’t exactly a musical revolutionary.

Washington State is even worse - Sleater-Kinney? Over Pearl Jam, Foo Fighters, Nirvana and The Jimi Hendrix Experience? At least put some effort into writing this list, guys.

I have no problem with your comments about the Beach Boys maybe not being the best California band, but saying Brian Wilson was not a musical revolutionary is just plain wrong.

Maybe you are caught up in only their early and most popular surfer stuff, but to say songs and arrangements like Good Vibrations, Wouldn’t it be Nice and some others ignores what he did for music and the influences on other bands. And Pet Sounds sent reverberations all through the pop music industry.

The Beach Boys - Wouldn’t It Be Nice (Original Video)

GOOD VIBRATIONS (HD) THE BEACH BOYS

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:03:48am

re: #331 Targetpractice

Hollywood can’t even do faithful live-action adaptation of American cartoons without fucking them six ways to Sunday.

I liked “Beauty and the Beast”

“Cinderella” sucked tho. I mean if they are going to make it about the Stepmother (and let’s face it IT WAS TOTALLY ABOUT THE STEPMOTHER BECAUSE CATE BLANCHETT) shouldn’t she have her own movie, like “Maleficent”)

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The Great Eye  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:03:55am

re: #310 makeitstop

I’d disagree vociferously with the bolded. Wilson brought pop music to a level of sophistication that was so astounding, even The Beatles saw his work as the standard they should try to meet.

I would easily put Brian Wilson in the pantheon of American composers of any Genre. He’s right up there with Gershwin and Aaron Copeland in my book.

Read the rules. Native bands.

Eddie Vedder was from San Diego.
Dave Grohl was from Baltimore.
Noel Redding and Mitch Mitchell were from England. Hardly locals.

And the Foo Fighters are literally from all over the country.

Shirley Manson is from Scotland and Garbage was still best from Wisconsin. Guess the rest of the crew being native to there allowed them credit for that.

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ObserverArt  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:04:26am

re: #310 makeitstop

I’d disagree vociferously with the bolded. Wilson brought pop music to a level of sophistication that was so astounding, even The Beatles saw his work as the standard they should try to meet.

I would easily put Brian Wilson in the pantheon of American composers of any Genre. He’s right up there with Gershwin and Aaron Copeland in my book.

Read the rules. Native bands.

Eddie Vedder was from San Diego.
Dave Grohl was from Baltimore.
Noel Redding and Mitch Mitchell were from England. Hardly locals.

And the Foo Fighters are literally from all over the country.

Thank You. Had not Brian wigged out early on, can you imagine the body of work the guy would have put out?

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Skip Intro  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:04:45am

re: #304 FormerDirtDart

California needs to build a wall between it and Nevada and Arizona.

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makeitstop  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:09:04am

re: #332 ObserverArt

Maybe you are caught up in only their early and most popular surfer stuff, but to say songs and arrangements like Good Vibrations, Wouldn’t it be Nice and some others ignores what he did for music and the influences on other bands. And Pet Sounds sent reverberations all through the pop music industry.

But even early Beach Boys songs like ‘In My Room,’ ‘Don’t Worry Baby,’ ‘Surfer Girl’ and ‘Caroline No’ were extremely sophisticated for the time they came out. Miles beyond what anyone else was doing at the time.

Brian Wilson is an American visionary. There, I said it.

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Skip Intro  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:10:36am
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makeitstop  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:11:13am

re: #334 The Great Eye

Shirley Manson is from Scotland and Garbage was still best from Wisconsin. Guess the rest of the crew being native to there allowed them credit for that.

Good point. I guess they figured they’d relax the rules for favorite son Vig. :)

But by that measure, neither the Eagles nor the Dead would make the cut - Mickey Hart is from Brooklyn, and Bernie Leadon was from Gainesville.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:12:16am

re: #329 Scottish Dragon

The recent announcement that the Star Wars director JJ Abrams is to make a live-action version of the record-breaking animated film Your Name has prompted a backlash among fans of the original, who fear another Hollywood “whitewash” of a Japanese masterpiece.

After the disaster that was the live-action version of the Avatar: The Last Airbender I can understand that fear. Animation and techniques used in said do not always translate well to RL even with special effects.

And, more importantly, once a big American studio gets its hands on something, so much stupid can develop. Along with the loss of all cultural nuance. American’s aren’t so good at nuance in film.

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Skip Intro  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:12:18am

Kid Rock Calls The New York Times ‘A Little Bit Gay,’ Isn’t Running For Senate After All

“F**k no, I’m not running for Senate,” the musician said. “Like who the f**k couldn’t figure that out?”

huffingtonpost.com

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electrotek  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:12:52am

re: #342 Skip Intro

Kid Rock Calls The New York Times ‘A Little Bit Gay,’ Isn’t Running For Senate After All

huffingtonpost.com

Casual homophobia…

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Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:13:51am

I hope some congressional aide is taping the yam’s meltdown at lunch.

After the russian flags, you know he’s losing it

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makeitstop  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:15:43am

re: #344 Stanley Sea

I hope some congressional aide is taping the yam’s meltdown at lunch.

After the russian flags, you know he’s losing it

Did he even see them? It looked like he’d passed before the guy threw them…

OTOH, he must have heard the guy yelling.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:16:18am

re: #342 Skip Intro

Kid Rock Calls The New York Times ‘A Little Bit Gay,’ Isn’t Running For Senate After All

huffingtonpost.com

Republicans around the country thought he was, or hoped he was, because Republicans around the country are insane.

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austin_blue  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:16:57am

re: #272 Stanley Sea

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Putting the “Goo” back in Ghoulish…

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:17:23am

Guess who, under TrumpCare, won’t be able to health insurance after they retire

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:18:10am

re: #346 Sir John Barron

Republicans around the country thought he was, or hoped he was, because Republicans around the country are insane.

He created a website to “gauge support” for a run, so obviously he was seriously considering it at one time. But I guess he decided that being a foul-mouthed critic screaming from the sidelines was better for his bank account.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:19:40am

re: #338 Skip Intro

Chris Christie on Trump: “He gets mad at me at times, he yells at me at times, but he respects me.”
— Joe Perticone

Drumpf doesn’t respect anyone.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:19:58am

re: #342 Skip Intro

Kid Rock Calls The New York Times ‘A Little Bit Gay,’ Isn’t Running For Senate After All

huffingtonpost.com

The fact that the RSCC was seriously looking at you. But okay has been.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:20:12am

re: #350 Sir John Barron

Drumpf doesn’t respect anyone.

Nah, he respects Putin.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:20:46am

re: #329 Scottish Dragon

No. Just no.

No more of this. The original works are entirely good enough without Hollywood having to fuck them up. Your Name is a brilliant film - I have here at home. I enjoyed it greatly, along with The Tale of Princess Kaguya, another animated masterpiece.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:20:49am

re: #352 HappyWarrior

Nah, he respects Putin.

Ooops, yeah forgot that. True.

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Kragar  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:22:09am
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Eventual Carrion  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:22:23am

re: #339 makeitstop

Good point. I guess they figured they’d relax the rules for favorite son Vig. :)

But by that measure, neither the Eagles nor the Dead would make the cut - Mickey Hart is from Brooklyn, and Bernie Leadon was from Gainesville.

Yeah, Don Henley is from Texas.

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MsJ  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:24:40am

re: #342 Skip Intro

Kid Rock Calls The New York Times ‘A Little Bit Gay,’ Isn’t Running For Senate After All

huffingtonpost.com

Eminem getting cheers while Rock got booed did him in. :-)

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ObserverArt  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:25:08am

re: #337 makeitstop

But even early Beach Boys songs like ‘In My Room,’ ‘Don’t Worry Baby,’ ‘Surfer Girl’ and ‘Caroline No’ were extremely sophisticated for the time they came out. Miles beyond what anyone else was doing at the time.

Brian Wilson is an American visionary. There, I said it.

You will get no argument from me.

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makeitstop  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:25:24am

re: #356 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, Don Henley is from Texas.

I thought he was an Okie?

Also, this happened - Bob Dylan and His Band doing a fine cover of a Petty song.

Bob Dylan and his band cover “Learning to Fly”

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Kragar  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:25:54am
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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:27:28am

re: #360 Kragar

Who is this troubled heart?

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:27:54am

re: #349 Targetpractice

He’s covering his ass after he got impressively booed at a Pistons game. Now it was all just a joke. Suuurrrrre.

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electrotek  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:28:41am

US considering sanctions on Myanmar over Rohingya persecution

Not enough, I’d say.

Maybe I’m crazy, but I wouldn’t mind military action against Myanmar in the same vein against Da’esh.

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Kragar  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:28:50am

re: #361 Sir John Barron

Some RWNJ radio host

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:29:55am

re: #361 Sir John Barron

Who is this troubled heart?

Someone I had already blocked because always be blocking. cf my #63.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:30:11am

re: #364 Kragar

Some RWNJ radio host

If Obama had been really evil, he would just have eliminated AM radio. Impoverished more wingnuts than the Great Depression.

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:30:35am

Hmmmm…Maybe I’ll test some combos at lunch.

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ObserverArt  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:30:54am

re: #348 FormerDirtDart

Guess who, under TrumpCare, won’t be able to health insurance after they retire

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A local Columbus TV station (NBC channel 4) did a long series on cancer in just one of the Columbus fire stations. It is way off the clock as far as statistics.

They didn’t come out and say it, but a lot of modern building materials are probably the cause of many of the cancers. The thinking is the firemen have all kinds of nasty stuff on their fire suits after a fire and much of the debris is being inhaled, etc.

They are now looking at ways of cleaning off their suits and other protective gear after a fire.

It is bad enough what the fireman go through just fighting fires. To be getting cancer and dying so early from the work is just tragic.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:31:53am

re: #359 makeitstop

I thought he was an Okie?

Also, this happened - Bob Dylan and His Band doing a fine cover of a Petty song.

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I think Dallas/FW area is his hometown

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ObserverArt  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:32:07am

re: #350 Sir John Barron

Drumpf doesn’t respect anyone.

That’s okay, because Christie is basically admitting he doesn’t respect himself.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:32:10am

re: #359 makeitstop

I thought he was an Okie?

Also, this happened - Bob Dylan and His Band doing a fine cover of a Petty song.

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Video

That was excellent.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:33:47am

re: #360 Kragar

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:34:21am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:34:28am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:34:51am

re: #372 Backwoods_Sleuth

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James Byrd, Matthew Shepherd. But yeah all Obama’s fault.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:35:30am

re: #374 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s been around a long time. He’s part of why you can’t blame the GOP being pondscum just on Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:36:42am

re: #373 JordanRules

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Could not happen to a nicer asshole.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:38:18am

re: #373 JordanRules

It has…talent???????

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Skip Intro  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:38:23am

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austin_blue  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:39:33am

re: #367 JordanRules

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Hmmmm…Maybe I’ll test some combos at lunch.

White bread, chunky peanut butter, pureed ripe durian sauce.

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weave  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:41:14am

re: #235 makeitstop

Not much I can add here.

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(The laughter goes on for a while.)

Sorry, I’m not laughing.

I laughed at Trump running for President.

Which reminds me, are any of the parties doing ANYTHING to fix their primary systems to prevent another catastrophe from happening in the future again? It’s clear in this age of easily manipulated internet public opinion that any demagogue kind get a party’s nomination now.

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:41:25am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:43:13am

re: #379 Skip Intro

Now that is a truly scary clown.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:45:00am

I loved smearing a slice of Roman Meal bread with this. I thought it tasted great, but my Mom and sister would howl about how bad it smelled…

Skippy Peanut Butter mixed with Betty Crocker Bac-0’s
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makeitstop  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:45:16am

re: #371 Stanley Sea

That was excellent.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:48:22am

re: #382 JordanRules

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Of course he doesn’t. Mitch is a spineless wimp.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:49:27am

re: #382 JordanRules

McConnell on Corker calling Trump dishonest: “i don’t have any observation about that”

— John Harwood

Very courage leadership

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:50:20am

re: #381 weave

Good point and I haven’t seen any major primary changes yet. Dems are fighting about proposed changes with the Bernie wing (i.e. caucuses). Not sure if the GOP sees anything wrong.

Very little has been done to fix a large number of disenfranchising issues in our elections. Same for the national security issues. We’ll see the same foreign interference and the like in 2018. Why wouldn’t we?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:55:18am

re: #388 JordanRules

Good point and I haven’t seen any major primary changes yet. Dems are fighting about proposed changes with the Bernie wing (i.e. caucuses). Not sure if the GOP sees anything wrong.

Very little has been done to fix a large number of disenfranchising issues in our elections. Same for the national security issues. We’ll see the same foreign interference and the like in 2018. Why wouldn’t we?

They should get rid of caucuses.

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:56:21am

re: #389 HappyWarrior

Agreed!

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:57:59am

Whoa. Another one!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:58:30am

re: #390 JordanRules

Agreed!

Even my Bernie supporting brother when I explained the concept to him didn’t like it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 11:59:09am

re: #391 JordanRules

Whoa. Another one!

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He knew he’d be prinaried. That seat could be won with the right candidate.

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ObserverArt  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:01:20pm

re: #386 HappyWarrior

Of course he doesn’t. Mitch is a spineless wimp.

It’s not just Mitch. It’s Paulie and GOP members of both houses of Congress.

What a bunch of spineless and clueless fools they all are.

If American had a quarter of a brain in the voters they would all be voted out of office on principle.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:01:39pm

Flake is not running for re-election

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:02:43pm

re: #391 JordanRules

Whoa. Another one!

So, we’re probably going end up with an even wackier Senator from AZ than is there now.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:03:26pm
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Teukka  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:04:06pm

re: #368 ObserverArt

A local Columbus TV station (NBC channel 4) did a long series on cancer in just one of the Columbus fire stations. It is way off the clock as far as statistics.

They didn’t come out and say it, but a lot of modern building materials are probably the cause of many of the cancers. The thinking is the firemen have all kinds of nasty stuff on their fire suits after a fire and much of the debris is being inhaled, etc.

They are now looking at ways of cleaning off their suits and other protective gear after a fire.

It is bad enough what the fireman go through just fighting fires. To be getting cancer and dying so early from the work is just tragic.

Here in Sweden, at least in Stockholm Muni, the fire depts always was the suits after a shout which contaminated them. Has been so for years.

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dangerman  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:07:22pm

re: #374 Backwoods_Sleuth

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as i’ve said, my mom turned 89 last week

i want that family guy “mommy, mommy, mommy” etc to be her ringtone when i call her

she wont have it (doesnt really get it )

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dangerman  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:09:28pm

re: #384 Joe Bacon 🌹

I loved smearing a slice of Roman Meal bread with this. I thought it tasted great, but my Mom and sister would howl about how bad it smelled…

[Embedded content]

dare i say you would?

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Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:09:53pm

Bad day for the yam

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MsJ  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:10:35pm
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jeffreyw  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:11:20pm

re: #309 Stanley Sea

Wasn’t there another photo just like the one you posted, sitting in the chair, but with a cat? Or is my memory faulty?

Well, actually (pause a beat), I noticed that I have posted that same photo before. Imgur tries to keep track of the views each picture gets and that one, when I checked just now, had more than I expected to see.

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dangerman  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:11:34pm

re: #391 JordanRules

Whoa. Another one!

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all paths lead to….nowhere
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A Mom Anon  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:54:45pm

re: #270 HappyWarrior

Except he’s being financed by Evil, INC. Hopefully most little kids grow out of being immature brats before they reach Milo’s age.

I will never understand people like the Mercers. They have all the money a single human could spend in several lifetimes. The taxes they pay are literally a pittance compared to what they have for themselves. And it’s not enough. They could use their wealth and be loved, adored, renowned the world over as a family who leaves an awesome legacy behind. But nope. These rich assholes sit and enjoy watching the infighting and suffering of others, while claiming to be perfect saints. We’re watching an updated version of the Gilded Age and Robber Barons. They need to be stopped.

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EPR-radar  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:05:18pm

re: #405 A Mom Anon

Except he’s being financed by Evil, INC. Hopefully most little kids grow out of being immature brats before they reach Milo’s age.

I will never understand people like the Mercers. They have all the money a single human could spend in several lifetimes. The taxes they pay are literally a pittance compared to what they have for themselves. And it’s not enough. They could use their wealth and be loved, adored, renowned the world over as a family who leaves an awesome legacy behind. But nope. These rich assholes sit and enjoy watching the infighting and suffering of others, while claiming to be perfect saints. We’re watching an updated version of the Gilded Age and Robber Barons. They need to be stopped.

The Mercers are just evil. That’s all there is to it. Not content with having more money than God, they seek ever more personal power for themselves.


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