Video: Sen. Bob Corker’s Scathing Comments on Trump: “He Debases Our Country”

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Sen. Bob Corker, chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, went on ABC’s Good Morning America today and doubled down on his recent scathing comments about our awful Narcissist in Chief. Corker is a Republican who supported Trump, but he increasingly sounds like someone who’s almost ready to openly advocate impeachment.

CNN followed this up with another interview in which Corker makes it extremely clear that he considers Trump to be a pathological liar who “debases our country.”

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When asked, “Is the president a liar?” Corker responds, “The president has great difficulty with the truth.” Pretty sure that’s a “yes.”

Corker says Trump is not a role model for young people, and when his administration is over, “the debasement of our nation is what he’ll be remembered for.”

Watch this CNN interview, because Corker emphasizes that he’s not just talking off the cuff; he’s thought about these issues extensively and would never support Trump again. This guy is done with Trump. We need more Republicans to get to this point, because every day Trump remains in office he does more damage.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:01:11pm

Let me be the FIRST to agree.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:02:12pm

Another one quits. Flake going, going, gone…

azcentral.com

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:03:09pm
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Interesting Times  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:03:21pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:06:17pm
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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:06:17pm

re: #3 JordanRules

He told The Arizona Republic ahead of his announcement that he has become convinced “there may not be a place for a Republican like me in the current Republican climate or the current Republican Party.”

Obama is so divisive.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:06:57pm

re: #5 FormerDirtDart

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I respect that.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:07:07pm
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BigPapa  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:08:04pm

Look at all these honorable GOP guys just quitting. Way to make a stand.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:08:10pm

Anyhow this is only going to make the GOP more crazy.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:08:36pm

re: #9 BigPapa

Look at all these honorable GOP guys just quitting. Way to make a stand.

They’re afraid of being eaten by the monster they created.

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:09:43pm
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BigPapa  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:09:48pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

Anyhow this is only going to make the GOP more crazy.

Flake wasn’t exactly a moderate. But yeah, I worry a Roy Moore or Gohmert v2.0 could get elected instead of an actual moderate. We’re in that bad of a state.

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Jay C  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:10:06pm

From last thread:

azcentral.com

So basically Flake is admitting that he’s not enough of a mindless leader-cultist wingnut to make it through a Republican primary in Arizona? Mainly because:

Among Republican primary voters, there’s overwhelming support for Trump’s positions and “behavior,” Flake said, and one of their top concerns is whether a candidate is with the president or against him.

So: one has to wonder just how big a segment of the AZ electorate those “Republican primary voters” comprise. Enough to elect a Senator?

Also: I wonder if the Arizona voters won’t be having TWO Senatorial elections to contest? Depending on whether or not Sen. McCain is still around: IIRC, any interim appointment would have to be up at the next general election: i.e. Nov. ‘18

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:10:46pm

re: #7 HappyWarrior

I respect that.

I don’t. He’s not leaving the party or voting against the GOP & Trump’s efforts to roll back decades of progress, he’s just passive aggressively bailing out for a lucrative private sector job.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:11:02pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:11:48pm

re: #15 goddamnedfrank

I don’t. He’s not leaving the party or voting against the GOP & Trump’s efforts to roll back decades of progress, he’s just passive aggressively bailing out for a lucrative private sector job.

That’s true. Good points.

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MsJ  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:11:49pm

re: #3 JordanRules

The problem comes with those who *willl* take the path and win. And then get voted in because they have a R after their names.

Fuck.

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:12:32pm

re: #14 Jay C

I’m playing under the assumption that we will have 2 to elect.

45 won AZ by less then 4% I believe.

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MsJ  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:12:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:12:47pm

re: #13 BigPapa

Flake wasn’t exactly a moderate. But yeah, I worry a Roy Moore or Gohmert v2.0 could get elected instead of an actual moderate. We’re in that bad of a state.

Neither is Corker. That’s yeah the thing. You go from wingnut to holy shit this guy is cray cray.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:13:50pm

re: #19 JordanRules

I’m playing under the assumption that we will have 2 to elect.

45 won AZ by less then 4% I believe.

AZ was competitive. HRC campaigned heavily there. Something the HRC only campaigned in liberal states people have ignored.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:14:12pm

re: #5 FormerDirtDart

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Translation: “I was going to get handed my ass by a Trumper in the primaries, so I’d rather go out a winner than nationally embarrassed by some goober from BFE.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:15:32pm

That lady who wanted McCain’s seat will probably be the GOP front runner there. Don’t know Arizona’s Democratic roster though.

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MsJ  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:16:05pm

re: #23 Targetpractice

Translation: “I was going to get handed my ass by a Trumper in the primaries, so I’d rather go out a winner than nationally embarrassed by some goober from BFE.”

THIS. Absolutely this. Totally this. ONLY this!

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blueraven  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:16:44pm

re: #23 Targetpractice

Actually, he is bringing Fire right now to Trump and his party on Senate floor.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:16:50pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:17:39pm

re: #26 blueraven

Actually, he is bringing Fire right now to Trump and his party on Senate floor.

Yes he is

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:17:52pm

re: #26 blueraven

Actually, he is bringing Fire right now to Trump and his party on Senate floor.

Yes, now that he’s no longer working to keep his office he’s suddenly found his balls again. Just like Corker, who magically became anti-Trump the moment he decided he wasn’t running again. These fuckers aren’t born-again, they’re running scared from the very monster they created.

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Skip Intro  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:18:16pm

re: #12 JordanRules

Two words: Joe Arpaio.

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mmmirele  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:18:40pm

re: #23 Targetpractice

Translation: “I was going to get handed my ass by a Trumper in the primaries, so I’d rather go out a winner than nationally embarrassed by some goober from BFE.”

Wel,l considering that we have the absolutely wretched and grotesque Kelli Ward here in Arizona, this is not hard to imagine. Remember, Ward is the woman who told John McCain to resign when he revealed he had brain cancer so that Governor Doofus, oops, Ducey could appoint her to his seat.

At least I don’t have to re-register as a Republican. I was actually considering doing that because even though I don’t agree with Flake on a lot of things, he did push opening Cuba and for that he gets an attaboy. Also he went to a mosque and talked to them after Friday prayer last year and in a time when most Republicans were staying away. I don’t blame him for not wanting to go through this crap.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:19:03pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:19:16pm

re: #30 Skip Intro

Two words: Joe Arpaio.

He’d be Trump’s man. And he along with Roy Moore could lecture about following the law despite their own records.

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mmmirele  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:19:32pm

re: #30 Skip Intro

Two numbers: 85.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:19:49pm

2019 is when his term ends.

They are going to be in office, free to wreck havoc on the yam’s plans.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:20:06pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:20:18pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

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It would have been more courageous with him saying this while not retiring.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:20:30pm
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blueraven  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:21:50pm

re: #29 Targetpractice

OK let’s not accept an alliance we could really use…because of past mistakes and what? Purity?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:22:02pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:22:27pm
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BigPapa  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:23:53pm

I suppose I should be happy GOP’ers are finally starting to break. But too few, too late, and they’re just jumping ship instead of sticking around and trying to actually fight against the insanity they helped create.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:24:33pm

Did Flake support Trump last year?

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:25:57pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:26:59pm

re: #43 Ace Rothstein

Did Flake support Trump last year?

I don’t think so.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:27:38pm

re: #39 blueraven

OK let’s not accept an alliance we could really use…because of past mistakes and what? Purity?

Who is it you believe you’re allying with? Flake? Sir Winston famously intoned that if Hitler invaded hell, he’d at least make a favorable mention of the devil in the House of Commons. And that’s as far as we should go, clapping for Flake’s remarks but not fooling ourselves into believing he’s an ally.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:28:00pm

re: #42 BigPapa

I suppose I should be happy GOP’ers are finally starting to break. But too few, too late, and they’re just jumping ship instead of sticking around and trying to actually fight against the insanity they helped create.

Yeah I wish we could have seen this last fall from them when Trump was on the doorstep of the Presidency. Now he’s in the Oval Office. I appreciate it but I definitely do see them as Johnny Come Latelys too.

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:28:21pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

I don’t think so.

I don’t have time to dig, but I think Flake and Trump had a spat either last year or this year.

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jimmyvluv4u  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:28:37pm

If he’s not running for re-election, maybe he should caucus with the D’s for the rest of his term…

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:28:52pm

re: #39 blueraven

OK let’s not accept an alliance we could really use…because of past mistakes and what? Purity?

This isn’t an alliance. So far neither of them has taken a single meaningful action to oppose Trump. They both voted to repeal the ACA and for his medicare & medicaid gutting budget. So far all they’ve offered is some milquetoast platitudes, it’s just a bunch of toothless yammering. Call me when they grow actual spines instead of just play acting at having personal integrity.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:29:05pm

re: #49 jimmyvluv4u

If he’s not running for re-election, maybe he should caucus with the D’s for the rest of his term…

Or at the very least leave the Republican caucus completely.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:29:30pm

re: #48 Belafon

I don’t have time to dig, but I think Flake and Trump had a spat either last year or this year.

I think you’re right about that.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:29:40pm

re: #50 goddamnedfrank

This isn’t an alliance. So far neither of them has taken a single meaningful action to oppose Trump. They both voted to repeal the ACA and for his medicare & medicaid gutting budget. So far all they’ve offered is some milquetoast platitudes, it’s just a bunch of toothless yammering. Call me when they grow actual spines instead of just play acting at having personal integrity.

Corker went off this morning.

Flake is in his first 10 minutes.

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:30:09pm

re: #46 Targetpractice

Who is it you believe you’re allying with? Flake? Sir Winston famously intoned that if Hitler invaded hell, he’d at least make a favorable mention of the devil in the House of Commons. And that’s as far as we should go, clapping for Flake’s remarks but not fooling ourselves into believing he’s an ally.

If Flake turns into the enemy of my enemy, that’s enough. The obvious question, though, is how will he oppose Trump. Just being sad that Trump is throwing shit from the podium isn’t enough.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:30:20pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:30:38pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:31:23pm

re: #54 Belafon

If Flake turns into the enemy of my enemy, that’s enough. The obvious question, though, is how will he oppose Trump. Just being sad that Trump is throwing shit from the podium isn’t enough.

And yet that’s all we’ve seen from Corker and Flake, a lot of talk but then quiet votes for Trump’s wishes. If either pledged to oppose Trump’s tax cuts right now, I might believe they were sincere. But as it stands, they’re just trying to avoid going down in flames next year.

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Kragar  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:31:43pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:32:00pm

re: #53 Stanley Sea

Corker went off this morning.

Flake is in his first 10 minutes.

“It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.”

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wrenchwench  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:32:06pm

Wikipedia on Flake:

[…]

Flake angered some Republicans by his criticism of Donald Trump, the party’s nominee in the 2016 election for President. President Trump himself was “furious” that Flake called on him to withdraw from the presidential race after the emergence of the “Access Hollywood” tape.

[…]

When you’ve lost the guy who was BORN in Snowflake…

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:32:40pm
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dangerman  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:33:01pm

re: #55 Eclectic Cyborg

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:34:17pm

Can’t wait to see what Trump tweets out about Flake and what SHS says about him.

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blueraven  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:34:45pm

re: #46 Targetpractice

Who is it you believe you’re allying with? Flake? Sir Winston famously intoned that if Hitler invaded hell, he’d at least make a favorable mention of the devil in the House of Commons. And that’s as far as we should go, clapping for Flake’s remarks but not fooling ourselves into believing he’s an ally.

He may not be an ally in the partisan sense, but in common decency, in the way our country should not accept being governed by a dishonest lunatic…I’ll take it.

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:35:07pm

re: #58 Kragar

I’m more of a “here’s where we are right now, what are you going to do kind of person”, so I would ask them what are they going to do now? Until we get time travel, they can’t fix the past, so all we can hope for is they will make things better.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:35:22pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:35:51pm

re: #50 goddamnedfrank

This isn’t an alliance. So far neither of them has taken a single meaningful action to oppose Trump. They both voted to repeal the ACA and for his medicare & medicaid gutting budget. So far all they’ve offered is some milquetoast platitudes, it’s just a bunch of toothless yammering. Call me when they grow actual spines instead of just play acting at having personal integrity.

Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski have done more to oppose Trump than either Jeff Flake or Bob Corker. Both men voted for the “Skinny Repeal” when the women voted against it. We’d be better off looking to ally ourselves with them than two blowhards who only now “stand up” to Trump when they’ve nothing to lose.

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:36:26pm

To bring something over from the last thread: I loved Your Name. Another move that I loved the same way is Wolf Children.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:36:43pm

re: #13 BigPapa

Flake wasn’t exactly a moderate. But yeah, I worry a Roy Moore or Gohmert v2.0 could get elected instead of an actual moderate. We’re in that bad of a state.

two words: Kelli Ward

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:37:24pm

I want actions, not words. I want one or both men to pledge to vote against Trump’s tax cuts before I believe this is about anything but making a public spectacle.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:37:34pm

re: #63 HappyWarrior

Can’t wait to see what Trump tweets out about Flake and what SHS says about him.

Trump’s lunchroom bully nickname for Flake is not surprisingly, “Flake”

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Charles Johnson  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:37:44pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:37:56pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:38:05pm

I’m sorry but my capacity to entertain pretenses towards honor and principle by the criminally complicit is all used up. This is some Lucy with the football bullshit and I’m not playing along.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:38:13pm

re: #71 The Vicious Babushka

Trump’s lunchroom bully nickname for Flake is not surprisingly, “Flake”

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At least Bush’s nicknames were somewhat creative.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:38:38pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:38:47pm

re: #73 FormerDirtDart

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Principles, the thing I showed I completely lacked when I promised to make President Obama a one term President.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:39:07pm

re: #14 Jay C

From last thread:

azcentral.com

So basically Flake is admitting that he’s not enough of a mindless leader-cultist wingnut to make it through a Republican primary in Arizona? Mainly because:

So: one has to wonder just how big a segment of the AZ electorate those “Republican primary voters” comprise. Enough to elect a Senator?

Also: I wonder if the Arizona voters won’t be having TWO Senatorial elections to contest? Depending on whether or not Sen. McCain is still around: IIRC, any interim appointment would have to be up at the next general election: i.e. Nov. ‘18

Wouldn’t it be awesome to elect two Democratic senators from Az?

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austin_blue  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:39:10pm

re: #70 Targetpractice

I want actions, not words. I want one or both men to pledge to vote against Trump’s tax cuts before I believe this is about anything but making a public spectacle.

Exactly. They’ve shown they have balls, but we need to see evidence of spines. A Pair of balls without a spine is useless.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:39:24pm

It sure is easy to talk about how dangerous Trump is to our country when you’re not running for reelection, isn’t it?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:39:33pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

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They need to become a permanent minority because of that. If you’ve chosen to ally yourself with the GOP and run for elected office, I’m going to make it my mission to vote against you.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:40:05pm

re: #78 Big Beautiful Door

Wouldn’t it be awesome to elect two Democratic senators from Az?

And a Democratic senator from Alabama?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:40:06pm

re: #78 Big Beautiful Door

Wouldn’t it be awesome to elect two Democratic senators from Az?

I never thought I’d see the day where we had two from Virginia and a governor too and becoming reliably Democratic in presidential elections.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:40:14pm

Our President is teaching racism all the way down to our youth…

Va. Middle Schoolers Simulate Sex Acts With Pinned-Down Black Students While Yelling Racial Slurs
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Henrico, Va., police are investigating a video posted on the social media platform showing middle school students simulating sex and shouting racially insensitive remarks at black students who appear not to be willing participants.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:40:21pm
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S'latch  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:41:06pm

I’m currently proud of Bob Corker. I like him personally. He’s a neighbor. He always remembers me and says hello to me when I see him around town. He always shakes my hand, addresses me by my first name, and asks me how my parents are.

I was really disappointed in Bob Corker when Trump first got elected because Bob had generally supported Trump since Bob is a Republican. I sent Bob Corker lots of letters asking him whether he was going to allow Trump’s nominees through and whether he was going to support Trump’s legislative agenda. He basically told me that he was going to allow Trump’s nominees through and that he was going to support Trump’s legislative agenda. That further disappointed me.

Then, Bob Corker soured on Trump. Better late than never. Today, I’m more proud that he’s my neighbor, friend, and Senator.

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Thanos  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:41:08pm

Get ready for Senator Arpaio from AZ…

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:41:42pm

re: #87 Thanos

A convict Senator?

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austin_blue  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:41:43pm

re: #73 FormerDirtDart

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“We’ve just witnessed a speech from a very fine man,” says McConnell. “A man who clearly brings high principles to the office every day.”

“I”, McConnell continued, “am not that kind of man, nor do I have these high principles.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:41:48pm

re: #84 Unshaken Defiance

Our President is teaching racism all the way down to our youth…

Va. Middle Schoolers Simulate Sex Acts With Pinned-Down Black Students While Yelling Racial Slurs
theroot.com

These are individuals who would have been only in pre-school or kindergarten when Obama got elected. This country still has so much to go on race.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:41:50pm
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Amory Blaine  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:42:07pm

That Equifax page where you check to see if you were affected by their breach, doesn’t work so good. I checked my name right away and like 3 weeks later and both times it claimed I was not affected. Letter from Equifax today says just the opposite. WTF.

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:42:42pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

This captures it all for me.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:42:42pm

re: #88 Unshaken Defiance

A convict Senator?

Why not? Alabama may elect twice removed from the Supreme Court for not following the law and dressing like a 9 year old cowboy, Roy Moore.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:43:15pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

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Which means 9 times out of 10 he’s in agreement with what the Yam wants out of Congress.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:44:15pm

re: #85 FormerDirtDart

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Saw that earlier. Were I bartending, I’d offer Bruce one on the house. It took a lot of courage to do what he did and I hope he has a very productive 2018 season.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:44:19pm
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ericblair  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:44:55pm

re: #83 HappyWarrior

I never thought I’d see the day where we had two from Virginia and a governor too and becoming reliably Democratic in presidential elections.

I think the Big Sort is not going to end up sorting North and South, but states that are the future and states that are the past. We’ll be losing the Rust Belt but gaining the Southwest and growing sunbelt states.

And good, Flake and Corker have seen the light. So, what are they going to do about it?

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:44:58pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:45:55pm

re: #82 Ace Rothstein

And a Democratic senator from Alabama?

I hope, I hope, I hope. Saw that Roy Moore said that Obergefell was worse than Dred Scott.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:46:09pm

re: #98 ericblair

I think the Big Sort is not going to end up sorting North and South, but states that are the future and states that are the past. We’ll be losing the Rust Belt but gaining the Southwest and growing sunbelt states.

And good, Flake and Corker have seen the light. So, what are they going to do about it?

Yeah I think that’s the future. And I think you’ve seen that with the DNC having its conventions in Denver and Charlotte. I know Colorado isn’t the SW technically.

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Kragar  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:46:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:46:49pm

re: #100 Big Beautiful Door

I hope, I hope, I hope. Saw that Roy Moore said that Obergefell was worse than Dred Scott.

Fucking insensitive bigoted jackal.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:47:46pm

re: #87 Thanos

Get ready for Senator Arpaio from AZ…

I hope he’s the nominee, because I really believe he would lose. Maricopa County did finally toss him out in the last election.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:47:49pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:48:15pm

re: #103 HappyWarrior

Fucking insensitive bigoted jackal.

Worst superhero ever.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:48:32pm

re: #104 Big Beautiful Door

I hope he’s the nominee, because I really believe he would lose. Maricopa County did finally toss him out in the last election.

I imagine he’d be a terrible campaigner and at raising money too.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:48:49pm

re: #106 Eclectic Cyborg

Worst superhero ever.

Ha!

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wrenchwench  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:49:03pm

re: #87 Thanos

Get ready for Senator Arpaio from AZ…

He’s 85. The election is over a year away.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:49:40pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

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We needed Republicans to speak out like last summer and fall. There was someone warning against Trump but too many of us(not us here at LGF) thought she wasn’t good enough or bought years of bullshit slanders.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:50:16pm

It won’t be Arpaio but then again who thought the GOP would actually nominate Trump for President? There are no rules anymore.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:50:17pm

re: #100 Big Beautiful Door

I hope, I hope, I hope. Saw that Roy Moore said that Obergefell was worse than Dred Scott.

He also said the 1st amendment doesn’t apply to non-Christians.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:50:42pm

re: #109 wrenchwench

He’s 85. The election is over a year away.

Dianne Feinstein is about the same age.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:50:56pm

re: #112 The Vicious Babushka

He also said the 1st amendment doesn’t apply to non-Christians.

He’s a clerical fascist enough said. How the hell he passed law school astounds me.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:51:16pm

re: #112 The Vicious Babushka

He also said the 1st amendment doesn’t apply to non-Christians.

And that Muslims should not be allowed to serve in Congress.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:51:49pm

re: #115 Big Beautiful Door

And that Muslims should not be allowed to serve in Congress.

Well that’s actually a mainstream GOP view these days.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:52:44pm

re: #87 Thanos

Get ready for Senator Arpaio from AZ…

Nah, the GOP 2018 candidate will be Kelli Ward, of “McCain should resign and take his brain cancer back home so he can die, and the Governor should appoint me in his place” fame (paraphrasing a bit there)

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wrenchwench  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:52:52pm

re: #113 Big Beautiful Door

Dianne Feinstein is about the same age.

I’m no doctor, but I predict she will outlive Arpaio.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:53:38pm

It’s 100 degrees & the wind is blowing

Got CalFire up on my feed, just waiting.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:53:52pm

re: #117 FormerDirtDart

Nah, the GOP 2018 candidate will be Kelli Ward, of “McCain should resign and take his brain cancer back home so he can die” fame (paraphrasing a bit there)

I think so too. Arizona folks, who for the Dems? Do you guys think Gabby Giffords is ready to or willing to return to elected politics? I admire the hell out of her and Mark.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:54:07pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:55:01pm

re: #120 HappyWarrior

I think so too. Arizona folks, who for the Dems? Do you guys think Gabby Giffords is ready to or willing to return to elected politics? I admire the hell out of her and Mark.

She’s been destroying Flake in the polls for months now.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:55:02pm

Remember the witch they had run?

The chicken lady?

The rape is ok guy?

They are losing moderates. There are a lot of GOP moderates who will not vote for Bannon’s crazies.

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:55:15pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:56:18pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:57:00pm

re: #120 HappyWarrior

Arizona folks, who for the Dems? Do you guys think Gabby Giffords is ready to or willing to return to elected politics? I admire the hell out of her and Mark.

He should run for Senate. She is still suffering from a TBI

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Kragar  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:57:25pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:57:50pm

re: #120 HappyWarrior

I think so too. Arizona folks, who for the Dems? Do you guys think Gabby Giffords is ready to or willing to return to elected politics? I admire the hell out of her and Mark.

I am no Arizonan, but I think Giffords is as politically involved as she’s going to get. They’ve named their organization for her.

Giffords

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:59:14pm

re: #125 FormerDirtDart

Typical high road, classy response.

////

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calochortus  Oct 24, 2017 • 12:59:55pm

re: #119 Stanley Sea

It’s 100 degrees & the wind is blowing

Got CalFire up on my feed, just waiting.

At least things are pretty much under control up here in northern CA, the firefighters should have gotten in a night or two with some sleep so we can send ‘em all down your way.

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ericblair  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:00:31pm

re: #125 FormerDirtDart

Press Sec. Sanders: Sen. Flake’s decision not to seek reelection “probably a good move” given “lack of support” from people of Arizona.

Good, keep picking fights with the only people in the country who can actually get rid of Trump’s ass. That’ll teach ‘em.

If it keeps Asshole from going after normal citizens, especially normal citizens who lost loved ones and are going through the worst days of their lives, that’s a win.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:00:35pm

Notice how Sarah Huckabee Sanders always looks like she doesn’t really want to be there?

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:01:31pm

re: #117 FormerDirtDart

Nah, the GOP 2018 candidate will be Kelli Ward, of “McCain should resign and take his brain cancer back home so he can die, and the Governor should appoint me in his place” fame (paraphrasing a bit there)

If both Senate seats are open, they could both run.

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Jenner7  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:02:05pm
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dangerman  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:02:42pm

re: #111 HappyWarrior

It won’t be Arpaio but then again who thought the GOP would actually nominate Trump for President? There are no rules anymore.

maybe

i’m counting on (hoping?) 2016 being a fool me once sort of thing

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:03:10pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

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some of us do indeed deserve dogs.

yes, we do.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:03:24pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

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Republicans ignited theater, now some are saying “Hey guys, maybe we ought to put the fire out” while the rest go “I like the warmth because it’s patriotic.”

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:03:40pm

re: #120 HappyWarrior

I think so too. Arizona folks, who for the Dems? Do you guys think Gabby Giffords is ready to or willing to return to elected politics? I admire the hell out of her and Mark.

re: #126 gocart mozart

He should run for Senate. She is still suffering from a TBI

re: #128 wrenchwench

I am no Arizonan, but I think Giffords is as politically involved as she’s going to get. They’ve named their organization for her.

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Speaking of

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:03:51pm

re: #125 FormerDirtDart

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She really shouldn’t talk given Trump had one of the most shabby performances in years for a Republican presidential candidate in Arizona.

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scottslemmons  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:04:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:04:37pm

re: #134 Jenner7

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LOL the guy who calls his opponents juvenile nicknames thinks other people are petty. Oh Sarah, you truly are your father’s daughter. No need for an Ancestry DNA test, tehy’d just find that you’re 100% bullshit.

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Kragar  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:04:49pm
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Ace-o-aces  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:04:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:05:08pm

re: #140 scottslemmons

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That day is going to come. And the both siders will go “Well it IS Free Speech.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:06:49pm

re: #138 FormerDirtDart

Speaking of

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Mark and Gabby are all class. So though if Gabby’s not up for running, how about Mark? The dude’s literally a former astronaut. I don’t know too much about his stances on many issues but I’m sure he’d be a good champion of center-left values.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:08:03pm

re: #135 dangerman

maybe

i’m counting on (hoping?) 2016 being a fool me once sort of thing

We can only hope. He’s going to be at an advantage as an incumbent in 2020. The disadvantage though? He’ll have to actually have to defend his record rather than act like as an outsider he’d do everything better. Moreover, Hillary won’t be there to charge up his rage fans.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:08:49pm

re: #142 Kragar

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So the training mission that got ambushed is now turning into a recon mission that was changed on the fly into a KOC.

Remember when wingnuts made a federal case out of the difference between a demonstration and a riot?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:09:30pm

re: #100 Big Beautiful Door

I hope, I hope, I hope. Saw that Roy Moore said that Obergefell was worse than Dred Scott.

That might tell you what he thinks about gays….or what he thinks about African Americans,

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:09:43pm

re: #147 Targetpractice

So the training mission that got ambushed is now turning into a recon mission that was changed on the fly into a KOC.

Remember when wingnuts made a federal case out of the difference between a demonstration and a riot?

“An act of terror versus radical Islamic terrorism.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:10:06pm

re: #148 Decatur Deb

That might tell you what he thinks about gays….or what he thinks about African Americans,

Both Katie.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:12:02pm

beyond pathetic…

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calochortus  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:12:16pm

re: #148 Decatur Deb

That might tell you what he thinks about gays….or what he thinks about African Americans,

There’s just nothing that makes me feel more oppressed than friends and neighbors in happy same sex marriages. It has been such a struggle to remain in my happy traditional marriage with that happening.
//////////// ad infinitum.

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dangerman  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:12:30pm

re: #146 HappyWarrior

We can only hope. He’s going to be at an advantage as an incumbent in 2020. The disadvantage though? He’ll have to actually have to defend his record rather than act like as an outsider he’d do everything better. Moreover, Hillary won’t be there to charge up his rage fans.

i hope (again) that a lot of the left wakes up and
votes more strategically
(or votes at all)

and that many who voted trump in ‘16 face the “did he come through with any promise he made to you and for you”?

do you see a wall?
is all of west virginia back at work mining coal?
detroit got auto plants open on every corner?
any tax reform money make it into your pocket?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:13:21pm

re: #140 scottslemmons

We’re approaching the day when an elected Republican legislator will wear a swastika pin on the floor of Congress with no repercussions.

Instead of swastika boxer shorts.

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wrenchwench  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:13:45pm

re: #145 HappyWarrior

Mark and Gabby are all class. So though if Gabby’s not up for running, how about Mark? The dude’s literally a former astronaut. I don’t know too much about his stances on many issues but I’m sure he’d be a good champion of center-left values.

He has a twin brother who is also an astronaut. Was recently on the spacestation (if not still there).

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petesh  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:14:12pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

some of us do indeed deserve dogs.

yes, we do.

I am not worthy. But if I treat them right, I do get rewards.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:14:34pm

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

“President Donald J. Trump Proclaims October 24, 2017, as United Nations Day” Read more: whitehouse.gov pic.twitter.com

— Donald J. Trump

????

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Jay C  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:14:55pm

re: #146 HappyWarrior

We can only hope. He’s going to be at an advantage as an incumbent in 2020. The disadvantage though? He’ll have to actually have to defend his record rather than act like as an outsider he’d do everything better. Moreover, Hillary won’t be there to charge up his rage fans.

Trump’s “rage fans” are likely to rage away regardless: come 2020, I’m guessing; they will be doubling/tripling down on the rage, especially if the Democrats get control of one or more Houses of Congress: few things fire up the existential anger of an extremist minority more than having their minority status thrown in their faces by electoral losses.

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dangerman  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:15:18pm

re: #154 Decatur Deb

Instead of swastika boxer shorts.

should there be another checkpoint after they pass through the metal detectors?

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Kragar  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:16:39pm
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petesh  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:16:47pm

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

beyond pathetic…

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AND it might lose him some base votes. “UN out of US” or vice versa is an old faithful.

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calochortus  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:17:45pm

re: #160 Kragar

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All of what accomplishments? Must have been a quick lunch.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:18:18pm

re: #160 Kragar

Multiple senators say Trump talked at lunch at length today about all of his accomplishments

Including his triumph over the heartbreak of bone spurs?

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Jay C  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:18:45pm

re: #162 calochortus

All of what accomplishments? Must have been a quick lunch.

Naaah, if Trump was bragging on himself (as usual), he could have kept them there for hours.

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dangerman  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:19:05pm

re: #160 Kragar

[Embedded content]Multiple senators say Trump talked at lunch at length today about all of his accomplishments

keeps em from talking about tax reform
im all for it

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:19:31pm

re: #162 calochortus

All of what accomplishments? Must have been a quick lunch.

A protein shake and a wafer-thin mint.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:19:40pm

re: #157 Sir John Barron

????

he is just sooooo weird…

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calochortus  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:21:12pm

re: #164 Jay C

Naaah, if Trump was bragging on himself (as usual), he could have kept them there for hours.

Everyone needs an after lunch nap, right?

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whitebeach  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:22:57pm

re: #132 Eclectic Cyborg

Notice how Sarah Huckabee Sanders always looks like she doesn’t really want to be there?

I think she’s just worried she might have missed the Rapture.

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bratwurst  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:25:29pm

This.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:25:32pm

AAAAAND THE PROJECTION==>

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RiverBoy  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:26:19pm

I say to each their own whether they want to hold past actions against Flake or Corker, but their current actions deserve support for the simple fact that what they are saying things that need to be said by as many people as possible at all times. Whether they continue their rhetoric as loud as possible going forward, as well as, actually work against what the GOP has become as a whole then maybe they will also deserve admiration. Until then, as Chris Rock put it best, You don’t get credit for doing something you are supposed to do.

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ericblair  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:26:35pm

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

he is just sooooo weird…

“UN Day marks the anniversary of the entry into force in 1945 of the UN Charter. With the ratification of this founding document by the majority of its signatories, including the five permanent members of the Security Council, the United Nations officially came into being.

“24 October has been celebrated as United Nations Day since 1948. In 1971, the United Nations General Assembly recommended that the day be observed by Member States as a public holiday.”

So he’s not proclaiming it; he (ok, his staff) is just recognizing an existing anniversary.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:26:53pm

re: #154 Decatur Deb

Instead of swastika boxer shorts.

Holy shit. They exist:

losangeles.cbslocal.com

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:27:35pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:28:46pm
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Interesting Times  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:29:39pm

Snerk:

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:29:40pm

re: #174 Decatur Deb

Holy shit. They exist:

losangeles.cbslocal.com

Or maybe somebody sewed an SS patch (obtained from who knows where—probably online) on to a regular pair of shorts which then got donated to Goodwill.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:30:03pm

re: #162 calochortus

All of what accomplishments? Must have been a quick lunch.

All the accomplishments, the best accomplishments, great golfing, the Patriots owner gave him a Sportsball ring.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:30:04pm

re: #175 JordanRules

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That sucks. First saw him on “Soap”, a very funny show. Then his spin off “Benson”, but “Soap” was a killer show for the time.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:30:28pm

re: #171 The Vicious Babushka

AAAAAND THE PROJECTION==>

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The Clinton campaign didn’t go out of its way to rationalize and apologize for Putin. The Clinton campaign’s party didn’t sell out the Ukrainians.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:30:48pm

re: #178 The Vicious Babushka

Or maybe somebody sewed an SS patch (obtained from who knows where—probably online) on to a regular pair of shorts which then got donated to Goodwill.

I found other examples on Google Images, though they were somewhat Hindu-ized.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:30:54pm

re: #180 Eventual Carrion

That sucks. First saw him on “Soap”, a very funny show. Then his spin off “Benson”, but “Soap” was a killer show for the time.

I have fond memories of Benson.

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calochortus  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:31:17pm

BBL

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William Lewis  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:32:11pm

re: #170 bratwurst

This.

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Thing is that Flake and the rest of the quitters speaking out are correct - they can’t speak out and run again in the GOP. There is no place left for honesty or even simple humanity in the Grand Old Fascist party. They have to be beaten into the ground, hopefully electorally, but given the core of white supremacist support that Trump has I’m not sure they can be. I mean, sweet fucking Jesus, a majority of white folks are STUPID enough to claim whites are being discriminated against.

GOP Delenda Est.

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Kragar  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:33:10pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:33:36pm
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Interesting Times  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:34:34pm

re: #170 bratwurst

This.

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Ana appears to agree:

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Decatur Deb  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:35:52pm

re: #188 Interesting Times

Ana appears to agree:

I get principled Republicans retiring. But if they all quit, who the hell’s gonna be left to fight? The inmates will be running the asylum.

Too late, my love. Too late, but never you mind…

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wrenchwench  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:37:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:37:18pm

re: #175 JordanRules

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oh, I had such a huge crush on him way back in the day…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:37:19pm

re: #188 Interesting Times

Ana appears to agree:

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She’s correct. Personally I’m hoping the GOP goes the way of the Whigs and Federalists but their ideology isn’t going to die either.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:39:35pm

Something to keep in mind: Flake is very open about being a Libertarian and his voting record pretty much confirms that.

What he is saying now is that extreme Libertarianism is NOT EXTREME ENOUGH for today’s Arizona GOP.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:39:50pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:39:52pm

re: #188 Interesting Times

When it came time for Germans in the Weimar Republic to support the Nazis, oppose the Nazis, or stand aside and do nothing, too many chose to stand aside and do nothing.

We now have an actively malignant Republican party in the US, with Trump merely being the most readily apparent symptom of that malignancy.

Anyone who chooses to stand aside, or to peddle both-siderism, or to continue to vote GOP out of habit or ‘because tax cuts’ is enabling Trump, Sessions, Bannon, Moore and the rest of these cancerous haters, bigots, clowns and trolls.

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ObserverArt  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:40:13pm

Wow, I took some time to get some work done and this place done blew up. Must be something important going on.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:40:59pm

re: #185 William Lewis

Thing is that Flake and the rest of the quitters speaking out are correct - they can’t speak out and run again in the GOP. There is no place left for honesty or even simple humanity in the Grand Old Fascist party. They have to be beaten into the ground, hopefully electorally, but given the core of white supremacist support that Trump has I’m not sure they can be. I mean, sweet fucking Jesus, a majority of white folks are STUPID enough to claim whites are being discriminated against.

GOP Delenda Est.

The argument is that if Flake truly holds to these convictions, then he needs to run on them. Best case scenario is he wins and shows the way forward for other anti-Trump candidates. Worst case scenario is he loses and a Trumper replaces him, proving that the party is too rotten to salvage. Saying he’s not running for reelection but he’ll stick around to vote does nothing but send the message that there’s no way to be anti-Trump unless you’re prepared to sacrifice your seat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:41:44pm

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

Something to keep in mind: Flake is very open about being a Libertarian and his voting record pretty much confirms that.

What he is saying now is that extreme Libertarianism is NOT EXTREME ENOUGH for today’s Arizona GOP.

aka: there apparently is indeed a bridge too far for a “principled Libertarian”…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:42:03pm

re: #194 FormerDirtDart

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Kurtz is such a hack

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Jay C  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:42:13pm

re: #187 The Vicious Babushka

White House says Pres. Trump insulting people shows strength he was elected for: “Takes 30 seconds” to send tweet.

Not sure which is the worse thought: that the President of the United States imagines that tweeting puerile insults about critics is a demonstration of “strength”; or the numbers of American voters who will gleefully agree with him (never mind what they would have thought of Obama, or Bush doing the same thing)…

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petesh  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:42:26pm

re: #185 William Lewis

Thing is that Flake and the rest of the quitters speaking out are correct - they can’t speak out and run again in the GOP. There is no place left for honesty or even simple humanity in the Grand Old Fascist party. They have to be beaten into the ground, hopefully electorally, but given the core of white supremacist support that Trump has I’m not sure they can be. I mean, sweet fucking Jesus, a majority of white folks are STUPID enough to claim whites are being discriminated against.

GOP Delenda Est.

Literally, the GOP needs to be completely destroyed. In California, we’re getting there, as a result of reactionary Republicans screwing up the state and alienating the fastest growing segment of the voting population. I don’t know what will happen exactly, and the Dems might also split (which would be unfortunate), but some hope remains. It’s a race between GOP collapse and neo-fascist dictatorship, and we probably have to choose. I’ll take GOP collapse, and if Peter Thiel emigrates to New Zealand, that’s a bonus.

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dangerman  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:42:27pm

re: #180 Eventual Carrion

That sucks. First saw him on “Soap”, a very funny show. Then his spin off “Benson”, but “Soap” was a killer show for the time.

did anyone mention soap in the thread the other night?
a definite oversight

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dangerman  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:42:58pm

re: #181 HappyWarrior

The Clinton campaign didn’t go out of its way to rationalize and apologize for Putin. The Clinton campaign’s party didn’t sell out the Ukrainians.

and (minor matter) they lost

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:43:33pm

re: #202 dangerman

did anyone mention soap in the thread the other night?
a definite oversight

IIRC, at least one lizard did mention Soap.

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wrenchwench  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:44:15pm

re: #196 ObserverArt

Wow, I took some time to get some work done and this place done blew up. Must be something important going on.

We missed you.

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:44:25pm

re: #202 dangerman

Excellent, excellent show!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:44:45pm

I want deets on how you will accomplish that by quitting, Jeff.

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wrenchwench  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:44:49pm

re: #205 wrenchwench

We missed you.

Get a note before you leave next time.

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RiverBoy  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:45:03pm

re: #185 William Lewis

Yep. That’s why I personally don’t blame him for bailing. Sure maybe the honorable and proud thing would be to stick around and fight against this thing that you aided in growing, but at this point that may not be a fight that can be won. The GOP didn’t get this way overnight so to get it back to a sane party is not going to happen over night as well.

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EPR-radar  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:45:08pm

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

Something to keep in mind: Flake is very open about being a Libertarian and his voting record pretty much confirms that.

What he is saying now is that extreme Libertarianism is NOT EXTREME ENOUGH for today’s Arizona GOP.

There is no bottom for libertarian extremism. Murray Rothbard, one of their more famous thought leaders (i.e., cranks) had views on liberty and parenting I’ve never seen before — babies are obnoxious little moochers, and nobody (including parents) should be compelled to take care of them. Rothbard would have us believe it’s OK for parents to do nothing as their child starves in its crib (while fatuously asserting that child abuse is immoral).

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:45:28pm

All you need to know about Corker and Flake can be found in their voting records.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:46:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:46:14pm

re: #208 wrenchwench

Get a note before you leave next time.

and bring back snacks for everyone when you return.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:47:06pm
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Kragar  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:47:25pm
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dangerman  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:48:05pm

re: #200 Jay C

Not sure which is the worse thought: that the President of the United States imagines that tweeting puerile insults about critics is a demonstration of “strength”; or the numbers of American voters who will gleefully agree with him (never mind what they would have thought of Obama, or Bush doing the same thing)…

i’d add a third thought

that the “critics” he aims at - in fact targets, very often are private, individual citizens

not public figures
not members of an organization with which he “disagrees”

just citizens all of whom he is supposed to represent

and he does this using the power and tools and trappings of the office - not as an “individual”

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EPR-radar  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:48:36pm

re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth

I sure hope the Senate leadership democrats are working on Flake for a party switch.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:49:57pm

re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m gonna be sick if Gillespie gets rewarded for his racist campaign.

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whitebeach  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:49:58pm

re: #196 ObserverArt

Wow, I took some time to get some work done and this place done blew up. Must be something important going on.

Nah, just ratwingers having a little spitball fight. Nothing to get worked up about.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:50:26pm

re: #195 EPR-radar

When it came time for Germans in the Weimar Republic to support the Nazis, oppose the Nazis, or stand aside and do nothing, too many chose to stand aside and do nothing.

I am so stealing & Tweeting that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:52:18pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:52:43pm

re: #217 EPR-radar

I sure hope the Senate leadership democrats are working on Flake for a party switch.

The Republicans could not count on him, the Democrats much less so.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:53:27pm

re: #181 HappyWarrior

The Clinton campaign didn’t go out of its way to rationalize and apologize for Putin. The Clinton campaign’s party didn’t sell out the Ukrainians.

Or ask Russia to hack the RNC or the IRS to get Trump’s tax returns.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:53:33pm

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:54:12pm
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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:54:14pm

re: #223 Sir John Barron

Or ask Russia to hack the RNC or the IRS to get Trump’s tax returns.

Or gleefully meet with a Russian in the hope of getting dirt on Trump

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:55:49pm

re: #225 FormerDirtDart

“temporarily” = As long as Trump is in office.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:55:55pm
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Scout  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:56:30pm

This is why Trump is president.

NPR:

Majority Of White Americans Say They Believe Whites Face Discrimination

“If you apply for a job, they seem to give the blacks the first crack at it,” said 68-year-old Tim Hershman of Akron, Ohio, “and, basically, you know, if you want any help from the government, if you’re white, you don’t get it. If you’re black, you get it.”

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EPR-radar  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:56:50pm

re: #222 wrenchwench

The Republicans could not count on him, the Democrats much less so.

If Flake is serious about trying to get the GOP to clean up its act, there could be no better way for him to send that message than to switch parties, blame that on the sewer the Republicans have become, and tell the GOP donor class that they have lost his vote for tax cuts because of the cesspit of Satan they have created.

Edited to add: trusting Flake has nothing to do with this.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:57:01pm

re: #229 Scout

This is why Trump is president.

NPR:

Majority Of White Americans Say They Believe Whites Face Discrimination

Yep.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:57:34pm

re: #227 Eclectic Cyborg

“temporarily” = As long as Trump is in office.

“Until we can figure out what the hell is going on”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:57:35pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s correct. We’re seeing Trump clones all over the place.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:57:42pm

re: #217 EPR-radar

I sure hope the Senate leadership democrats are working on Flake for a party switch.

Well, we have to be honest and recognize that Flake (or Corker) isn’t a liberal or even a conservative Democrat. His objection to Trump is partly about Trump’s deviation from traditional Republican positions on trade and immigration and partly about Trump’s behavior. About the only overlap between Flake and most Dems would be on immigration, Cuba.

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whitebeach  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:57:58pm

re: #230 EPR-radar

If Flake is serious about trying to get the GOP to clean up its act, there could be no better way for him to send that message than to switch parties, blame that on the sewer the Republicans have become, and tell the GOP donor class that they have lost his vote for tax cuts because of the cesspit of Satan they have created.

If.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:58:22pm

re: #225 FormerDirtDart

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Heartless.

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gocart mozart  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:58:36pm

re: #175 JordanRules

Cosmic Slop hosted by George Clinton a weird HBO special featuring Robert Guillaume

Cosmic Slop - Space Traders

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:58:41pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:58:57pm

re: #234 Sir John Barron

Well, we have to be honest and recognize that Flake (or Corker) isn’t a liberal or even a conservative Democrat. His objection to Trump is partly about Trump’s deviation from traditional Republican positions on trade and immigration and partly about Trump’s behavior. About the only overlap between Flake and most Dems would be on immigration, Cuba.

Yes.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:59:10pm

re: #229 Scout

This is why Trump is president.

NPR:

Majority Of White Americans Say They Believe Whites Face Discrimination

Confirmed FACT. Also, Jade Helm 15. And that widow of the soldier who died in Niger is lying about Trump because phone call is on Internet.

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William Lewis  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:59:16pm

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Until no one is looking then they’ll say “experiment over” and back to normal taking as much far right money as possible. Twitter delenda est too.

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2017 • 1:59:21pm

re: #160 Kragar

“Let me tell you about how I fathered my four children.”
“Four?”
“Yes. By my first and last wives.”

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ObserverArt  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:00:00pm

re: #18 MsJ

The problem comes with those who *willl* take the path and win. And then get voted in because they have a R after their names.

Fuck.

I think these moves are going to create more and more Independents and crossover voters.

Sure thing we have a lot of nuts, but there is going to be a shaking out the nuts from the people that are being turned off by all of this. I think Trump is shrinking the party down to just the nuts. So, he may drop from 46% of the vote to somewhere below 40%.

I still have faith there are more normal people in this country than what it seems. Normal people are not as noisy on social media as wingnuts, bigots and other flotsam. I think we sometimes get caught up in the noise and take it for the majority.

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:00:22pm

re: #229 Scout

This is why Trump is president.

NPR:

Majority Of White Americans Say They Believe Whites Face Discrimination

Yeah, dude. Except that contradicts every study done on the subject.

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garzooma  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:00:55pm

re: #226 Sir John Barron

Or gleefully meet with a Russian in the hope of getting dirt on Trump

Or fired the FBI director for investigating.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:01:14pm
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Kragar  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:01:20pm
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Ace-o-aces  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:01:24pm

re: #175 JordanRules

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:01:37pm

re: #242 Belafon

“Let me tell you about how I fathered my four children.”
“Four?”
“Yes. By my first and last wives.”

“And each time I’ve remarried I’ve remarried a younger woman. How many of you can say that? Losers. Also, too, the evangelicals love me, dopes. “

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:01:51pm

re: #243 ObserverArt

Yup. Another reason the bots and trolls are so dangerous.

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Jay C  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:02:08pm

re: #197 Targetpractice

The argument is that if Flake truly holds to these convictions, then he needs to run on them. Best case scenario is he wins and shows the way forward for other anti-Trump candidates. Worst case scenario is he loses and a Trumper replaces him, proving that the party is too rotten to salvage. Saying he’s not running for reelection but he’ll stick around to vote does nothing but send the message that there’s no way to be anti-Trump unless you’re prepared to sacrifice your seat.

Mainly agree, tp; but I’d posit that the “worst case scenario” is that Flake (or any other GOP “moderate”) loses, a Trumper replaces him - and wins the Senate seat. The Republican Party may have done their best to damage it lately, but we still have a Constitutional/institutional framework for our government: even if one Party is “too rotten to salvage”, it makes little difference if the Opposition can’t take advantage of it. And the biggest problem on that account, IMO, isn’t so much gerrymandering, or idiot media, or the bottomless well cesspool of “political money” gurgling around, but the corrosive (and cumulative) poison of RW propaganda that has undermined this country’s two-party system by painting said Opposition - the Democratic Party - as, often literally, the Party Of Satan, and whose legitimacy will always be held to be suspect.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:02:28pm

re: #244 Belafon

Yeah, dude. Except that contradicts every study done on the subject.

Blacks also get all the food stamps and welfare.

/

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Decatur Deb  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:02:29pm

re: #229 Scout

This is why Trump is president.

NPR:

Majority Of White Americans Say They Believe Whites Face Discrimination

Just try to get a down-camera pass on Soul Train.

Soul Train The Best 2

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Kragar  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:03:25pm

re: #244 Belafon

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:03:41pm

re: #175 JordanRules

They mean known for Benson, right?

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EPR-radar  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:04:49pm

re: #234 Sir John Barron

Well, we have to be honest and recognize that Flake (or Corker) isn’t a liberal or even a conservative Democrat. His objection to Trump is partly about Trump’s deviation from traditional Republican positions on trade and immigration and partly about Trump’s behavior. About the only overlap between Flake and most Dems would be on immigration, Cuba.

Specific policy positions are almost irrelevant in this ongoing disaster. Flake should switch parties because the Republicans are just that toxic.

Are you willfully stupid, a crank, monstrously greedy and/or a bigot? If yes, you’re a good match for the Republican party. If no, you’d best oppose the Republicans as much as possible.

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:05:50pm

re: #255 Belafon

The title of the article mentions Benson and I think they just pulled another quote from the piece to put in the Tweet rather than just repeat the title which most folks do.

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dangerman  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:06:23pm

re: #247 Kragar

@PressSec: Imagine how much Trump could do if senators like Corker “started doing their job instead of doing so much grandstanding on TV.pic.twitter.com

…woudl just do whatever he wanted

he cant win anything if they wont agree with him (dammit)

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:06:33pm

re: #248 Ace-o-aces

I don’t know.
Guillaume coming back after his stroke to continue in the role was a pretty big deal

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:06:41pm

re: #248 Ace-o-aces

He also played the school district director in the movie about N.J. high school principal Joe Clark. The Joe Clark character was played by Morgan Freeman, even though Guillame looked a lot like the actual Joe Clark. The movie is called Lean On Me.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:07:49pm

re: #147 Targetpractice

I’m so old I remember when 240 Marines were blown up in Beirut and there was one hearing about it.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:07:59pm
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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:08:12pm

re: #256 EPR-radar

Specific policy positions are almost irrelevant in this ongoing disaster. Flake should switch parties because the Republicans are just that toxic.

Are you willfully stupid, a crank, monstrously greedy and/or a bigot? If yes, you’re a good match for the Republican party. If no, you’d best oppose the Republicans as much as possible.

Yeah, I’m not necessarily objecting. But were he to switch, just don’t expect pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-minimum wage votes, etc.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:09:09pm

re: #229 Scout

“THE BLACKS”

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Decatur Deb  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:10:29pm

re: #264 Ace Rothstein

“THE BLACKS”

Using his “Sunday Voice”.

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ObserverArt  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:10:39pm

re: #67 Targetpractice

Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski have done more to oppose Trump than either Jeff Flake or Bob Corker. Both men voted for the “Skinny Repeal” when the women voted against it. We’d be better off looking to ally ourselves with them than two blowhards who only now “stand up” to Trump when they’ve nothing to lose.

Are we going to keep bitching about what can’t be done, and try to use this opportunity to turn some heads and make these Republicans quiting into a positive for our side?

They are giving us some great stuff to use against Trump and Trumpers.

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dangerman  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:10:47pm

re: #263 Sir John Barron

Yeah, I’m not necessarily objecting. But were he to switch, just don’t expect pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-minimum wage votes, etc.

switching parties could be a symbolic gesture but if you dont change voting positions it doesn’t really accomplish much else

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Kragar  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:10:55pm
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Belafon  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:12:20pm

re: #267 dangerman

switching parties could be a symbolic gesture but if you dont change voting positions it doesn’t really accomplish much else

If enough were to change, Democrats would gain control of a chamber (I realize a lot would have to change in the House). And that would change things.

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dangerman  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:13:15pm

re: #268 Kragar

Newt Gingrich strangely fantasized about Donald Trump beating Maxine Waters in a boxing match on Hannity last night:

he should have to pass take an iq test first
that way after she pummels him they have a baseline functionality they can check against

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Decatur Deb  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:14:06pm

re: #267 dangerman

switching parties could be a symbolic gesture but if you dont change voting positions it doesn’t really accomplish much else

Unless a few do it and flip the leadership.

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:14:53pm

re: #257 JordanRules

The title of the article mentions Benson and I think they just pulled another quote from the piece to put in the Tweet rather than just repeat the title which most folks do.

Ok. I’m just imagining: “Bob Newhart, known for his appearances on Big Bang Theory.”

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dangerman  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:15:11pm

re: #269 Belafon

If enough were to change, Democrats would gain control of a chamber (I realize a lot would have to change in the House). And that would change things.

i was thinking individually

yes of course you are right
that would be both symbolic and tangible

a hell of a poke in the eye

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electrotek  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:15:12pm

I may be in the minority here, but Jeff Flake garnered my respect the moment he made a stand against Islamophobia. That is unthinkable for a GOP politician these days.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:16:16pm

re: #229 Scout

This is why Trump is president.

NPR:

Majority Of White Americans Say They Believe Whites Face Discrimination

Because blacks just have it so good in America today!

*spit*

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:16:29pm

re: #268 Kragar

Newt Gingrich strangely fantasized about Donald Trump beating Maxine Waters in a boxing match on Hannity last night: Video pic.twitter.com

— Media Matters

What?

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makeitstop  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:16:41pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:16:49pm

re: #267 dangerman

switching parties could be a symbolic gesture but if you dont change voting positions it doesn’t really accomplish much else

I want to see Flake vote against GOP tax cuts. That would be an anti-Trump action to go along with his anti-Trump words.

For me, changed voting patterns are much more important than a change in party affiliation. After all, I define Republicans as those who habitually vote GOP in contested general elections, independently of how they are registered.

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dangerman  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:17:06pm

re: #272 Belafon

Ok. I’m just imagining: “Bob Newhart, known for his appearances on Big Bang Theory.”

or that other show where he dreamed about that other other show

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:17:36pm

re: #269 Belafon

If enough were to change, Democrats would gain control of a chamber (I realize a lot would have to change in the House). And that would change things.

Yes, a very good point.

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William Lewis  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:20:13pm

Some days there just isn’t enough distortion boxes, power chords & amp wattage in the world… but damn if what you have can’t at least help be sonic brain bleach.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:21:28pm

re: #275 Eclectic Cyborg

Because blacks just have it so good in America today!

*spit*

That’s an NPR poll. Perhaps their over-literate respondents are using the first definition of “Discriminate”.

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:21:51pm

re: #272 Belafon

It was another starring role on another acclaimed show. There was a whole bunch of folks who grew up with the small run of SN and not Benson.

But I get the point and the title of the article makes the most obvious call out.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:22:26pm

Baby Whiplash Guide to Halloween:

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:23:51pm

re: #283 JordanRules

It was another starring role on another acclaimed show. There was a whole bunch of folks who grew up with the small run of SN and not Benson.

But I get the point and the title of the article makes the most obvious call out.

My original comment was the closest I will ever get to “get off my lawn.” I just think of a show where he was the title character would be his most iconic role. And I was just having a little fun.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:24:22pm

re: #284 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash Guide to Halloween:

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Ben is still pissed because all he ever got was candy corn.

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makeitstop  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:26:00pm

re: #286 Decatur Deb

Ben is still pissed because all he ever got was candy corn.

I actually like candy corn.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:26:44pm

re: #287 makeitstop

I actually like candy corn.

This is your lucky week.

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:26:48pm

re: #285 Belafon

Definitely is! Maybe tweet writer was being silly.

What’s the opposite of get off my lawn anyway?

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:29:39pm
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William Lewis  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:31:43pm

Now to go work on supper.

I was given a pork roast by a member of my church. Ok, I can find some use & I don’t have anything against pork. But what to do with it?

Found a roasting pan in the back room, hmm, lots of cans tomato juice and diced tomato in the pantry, oh and a can of pineapple rings.

Little bit of minced garlic left in the fridge, some carrot and a small onion. Plenty of my favorite herb mix.

Pop the cast iron skillet on the stove and brown the veggies and the sides of the roast. Put them in the roasting pan and cover with pineapple rings then pour the tomato on and around the roast. Sprinkle Herbes de Provence - savory, marjoram, rosemary, thyme, oregano & one or two others - liberally. Gave it a half hour in a hot oven then turned it down.

I’ll make some rice to put it on in a couple of hours & then we’ll see. I’m hoping this will be good enough to see the week out since it is a three pound roast.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:32:30pm

heh:

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:35:04pm
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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:36:29pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:37:44pm

re: #294 JordanRules

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Oh yeah, this is the guy we need to ally ourselves with.

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:38:32pm

re: #284 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash Guide to Halloween:

I can’t look at the picture, but I’m sure it’s idiotic.

My oldest, when he was 8, went as Blade for Halloween. It was his choice. We felt no need to cover him in black face.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:38:57pm

re: #294 JordanRules

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I said he was a Libertarian…

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:39:35pm

re: #290 JordanRules

And they clapped for 10.5 minutes.

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EPR-radar  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:40:00pm

re: #295 Targetpractice

Oh yeah, this is the guy we need to ally ourselves with.

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As expected. Anyone who is a Republican in the 21st century is either willfully evil or so cataclysmically fucked in the head as to be indistinguishable from evil.

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wrenchwench  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:40:14pm
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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:40:23pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:42:03pm

re: #301 JordanRules

Shorter Jeff Flake: “Let someone else confront the monster we created. That shit’s dangerous.”

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plansbandc  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:42:27pm

re: #134 Jenner7

I’m surprised the universe didn’t implode after that astonishing bit of hypocrisy.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:43:01pm

re: #155 wrenchwench

He has a twin brother who is also an astronaut. Was recently on the spacestation (if not still there).

And he is the “control sample” human to track what changes happened to his twin brother from space travel and extended time in orbit.

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wrenchwench  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:43:16pm

re: #294 JordanRules

[PeopleforBernie]

I just had an old guy in here with a “bernie 2020” sweatshirt on. I was nice. I need the money.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:43:21pm

So in the space of less than 12 hours, Flake went from being a symbol of opposition to Trump…to being his loyal toady again.

Damn, I hope nobody suffered whiplash from that.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:44:05pm

re: #253 Decatur Deb

Just try to get a down-camera pass on Soul Train.

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Video

I could watch that for hours.

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wrenchwench  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:45:35pm

re: #304 Unshaken Defiance

And he is the “control sample” human to track what changes happened to his twin brother from space travel and extended time in orbit.

I knew that, but I couldn’t come up with the words.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:45:43pm

re: #305 wrenchwench

I just had an old guy in here with a “bernie 2020” sweatshirt on. I was nice. I need the money.

Congratulate Bernie on his eye test.

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:46:14pm

re: #305 wrenchwench

I read that as 2016, I really did. Let out a little ‘heh’. 2nd pass thru the comments and I realized what I missed.

Nooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:46:28pm

re: #212 Ace-o-aces

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EPR-radar  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:46:50pm

re: #306 Targetpractice

So in the space of less than 12 hours, Flake went from being a symbol of opposition to Trump…to being his loyal toady again.

Damn, I hope nobody suffered whiplash from that.

Betting on Republicans in office being craven scurvy dogs at every opportunity is very rarely a losing bet.

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wrenchwench  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:47:52pm

re: #309 Decatur Deb

Congratulate Bernie on his eye test.

You might be in on the joke. It had the ‘fluffy hair with glasses’ graphic.

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ObserverArt  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:48:48pm

re: #295 Targetpractice

Oh yeah, this is the guy we need to ally ourselves with.

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Who said we should ally with him? I’ve been reading the thread through and I didn’t see it. I think most agree Flake is being flakey and he is still a Republican.

But do we have to look at it all through the eyes of wingnuts salivating at the chance to get even crazier?

Everything is positive and negative. What Flake is doing is a negative for the Republican party and a positive for the Democratic party. Let’s use it instead of trying to turn it all into a negative.

It is that hard to see???

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:48:57pm

Damn, I was expecting more than 2 hours to go by before I was proven right about how Flake is not an “ally,” but a craven coward.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:49:49pm

re: #315 Targetpractice

Damn, I was expecting more than 2 hours to go by before I was proven right about how Flake is not an “ally,” but a craven coward.

That’s how long he can remember his precious children.

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EPR-radar  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:50:54pm

re: #316 Decatur Deb

That’s how long he can remember his precious children.

Tax cuts for the GOP donor class are obviously more important to Flake than his own children.

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ObserverArt  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:51:03pm

re: #305 wrenchwench

I just had an old guy in here with a “bernie 2020” sweatshirt on. I was nice. I need the money.

Bernie buying a bike?

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wrenchwench  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:53:13pm

re: #318 ObserverArt

Bernie buying a bike?

A fan of his, asking about those recumbents all the old guys are getting into these days.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:53:30pm

re: #314 ObserverArt

Who said we should ally with him? I’ve been reading the thread through and I didn’t see it. I think most agree Flake is being flakey and he is still a Republican.

But do we have to look at it all through the eyes of wingnuts salivating at the chance to get even crazier?

Everything is positive and negative. What Flake is doing is a negative for the Republican party and a positive for the Democratic party. Let’s use it instead of trying to turn it all into a negative.

It is that hard to see???

How exactly do we use it in any way but what we’d all planned to do from the beginning, which is to find and support a Democrat to take his seat? It’s a positive in that the seat might now become a toss-up, but I’d say his remarks just now put the kibosh on his having some change of heart.

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(Bert the Turtle)  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:54:31pm
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fern01  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:54:33pm

re: #278 EPR-radar

I want to see Flake vote against GOP tax cuts. That would be an anti-Trump action to go along with his anti-Trump words.

For me, changed voting patterns are much more important than a change in party affiliation. After all, I define Republicans as those who habitually vote GOP in contested general elections, independently of how they are registered.

And the way he (and all the GOP) screamed about the deficit during the Obama years - they should ALL vote against the tax cuts - but the US norms - GOPers spend/reduce taxes then scream at the Democrats who raise taxes to fix the deficit and are then voted out - again and again.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:54:36pm

re: #317 EPR-radar

Lunch gave Flake an attack of conscience and a case of heartburn. Got over both.

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whitebeach  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:57:08pm

re: #301 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

Influential alumni: “The coach we hired last year has lost every game this season. He’s trash-talked his own players and alienated the alumni. Some of the team are quitting. He grabs the cheerleaders inappropriately and spits on or slugs opposing players, and he refuses to shake hands with the opposing coaches after the game. He’s debasing football and all the things this university stands for.”

Reporter: “So you’re saying you want him fired?”

Alum: “No, no, no. No reason to get carried away here.”

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makeitstop  Oct 24, 2017 • 2:58:17pm

re: #319 wrenchwench

A fan of his, asking about those recumbents all the old guys are getting into these days.

When we were in NYC on Sunday, we saw a couple on a tandem recumbent.

Now my wife wants one. We don’t have anyplace big enough to store it.

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whitebeach  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:00:28pm

re: #325 makeitstop

When we were in NYC on Sunday, we saw a couple on a tandem recumbent.

Now my wife wants one. We don’t have anyplace big enough to store it.

If they can find space to store it in a NYC apartment, you can find room somewhere.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:01:23pm

I’ll lay it out pretty plainly: Jeff Flake just undermined that entire speech that had folks feeling tingles in their naughty bits less than 3 hours ago. The guy he was supposedly “standing up to” is one he’s “willing to work with” to get tax cuts passed and can’t see being removed from office. So if you’re trying to see anything positive in today’s events aside from now Yertle will have to work to keep another seat next November, then you’re kidding yourself.

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ObserverArt  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:02:09pm

re: #320 Targetpractice

How exactly do we use it in any way but what we’d all planned to do from the beginning, which is to find and support a Democrat to take his seat? It’s a positive in that the seat might now become a toss-up, but I’d say his remarks just now put the kibosh on his having some change of heart.

We hang all of this turmoil and sensible* GOP politicians quitting and all the problems of Trump on ALL Republicans.

Jeff Flake quitting gives me an opportunity to bash Rob Portman for being a wimp and not standing up against Trump and speaking out.

It gives us a chance to say that the Republicans are not backing their own and are allowing more and more craziness.

It allows Democrats to use the healthcare and taxes BS that a majority of Americans are not happy with against the spineless Republicans unable to stand up against Trump where the Democrats have stood together to fight all of them.

*Sensible - I know there are no sensible Republicans, but it is time to use this stuff creatively. There are people that voted for Flake and Corker and probably agree with them now. We need them to crossover, go independent, etc.

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wrenchwench  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:04:19pm

re: #325 makeitstop

When we were in NYC on Sunday, we saw a couple on a tandem recumbent.

Now my wife wants one. We don’t have anyplace big enough to store it.

There are folding ones. I’m sure it costs extra for that feature. My favorites are the ones with one upright in back, and recumbent out front.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:07:02pm

re: #329 wrenchwench

There are folding ones. I’m sure it costs extra for that feature. My favorites are the ones with one upright in back, and recumbent out front.

In NYC you can just leave your bike leaning against an “Alternate Side of the Street” parking sign. No storage worries.

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ObserverArt  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:07:38pm

re: #327 Targetpractice

I’ll lay it out pretty plainly: Jeff Flake just undermined that entire speech that had folks feeling tingles in their naughty bits less than 3 hours ago. The guy he was supposedly “standing up to” is one he’s “willing to work with” to get tax cuts passed and can’t see being removed from office. So if you’re trying to see anything positive in today’s events aside from now Yertle will have to work to keep another seat next November, then you’re kidding yourself.

What were you expecting? This isn’t going to change in an hour or three.

Hopefully…aw shoot, I give up.

Hopefully isn’t a good word these days. Later. I’m going to protect my mind.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:07:56pm
Kid Rock is ending months of speculation about a possible Senate bid, saying, “F—- no, I’m not running for Senate.”

“Are you f—-ing kidding me? Who couldn’t figure that out?” the “All Summer Long” singer said on Howard Stern’s SiriusXM radio show on Tuesday.

“I’m releasing a new album. I’m going on tour, too. Are you f—-ing shitting me?” he asked Stern.

Thank God

thehill.com

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MsJ  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:09:08pm

re: #321 (Bert the Turtle)

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wrenchwench  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:10:59pm

re: #330 Decatur Deb

In NYC you can just leave your bike leaning against an “Alternate Side of the Street” parking sign. No storage worries.

In Portland, OR, we knew a guy who was 6’ something, and he liked to leave his fixie* at the top of a hill to occasionally retrieve it from an attempted thief at the bottom, if he made it that far.

*no brakes, no coasting

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(Bert the Turtle)  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:11:10pm

re: #319 wrenchwench

A fan of his, asking about those recumbents all the old guys are getting into these days.

For the love of Space Jesus, if he gets one, sell him a flag on a pole!

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Decatur Deb  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:13:12pm

re: #334 wrenchwench

In Portland, OR, we knew a guy who was 6’ something, and he liked to leave his fixie* at the top of a hill to occasionally retrieve it from an attempted thief at the bottom, if he made it that far.

*no brakes, no coasting

Echoing the car thread a bit back, I used to do topographical parking with my MG Midget during the months it took to find a starter.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:13:38pm

re: #331 ObserverArt

What were you expecting? This isn’t going to change in an hour or three.

Hopefully…aw shoot, I give up.

Hopefully isn’t a good word these days. Later. I’m going to protect my mind.

Hopeful is for when he does more than give a speech. Because we were hopeful that he’d flip on “skinny repeal” and he still voted for the damned thing.

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bratwurst  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:13:57pm

Here is what I keep coming back to:

Trump is exactly who he portrayed himself to be as he ran. He’s a pathological liar. He’s a misogynist. He’s a bigot. He’s a sociopath.

I am not Superman or a psychic or anyone with any kind of special insight into politics or the human condition. Even so, I was able to clearly see all of the above. I therefore voted for the one and only person who had a chance to prevent Trump from becoming POTUS.

I wholeheartedly agree with what Corker and Flake said today about Trump. Having said that, talk is cheap. It’s better than nothing, of course, but it does little to nothing to fix this massive problem we have.

If folks like McCain and Corker and Flake are serious about putting country ahead of party, it is going to take a lot more than talk. They are going to have to talk action. If they are willing and able to do that, I will gladly praise them.

Until that time, they have done very little but come to the same realization that you and I had about Donald J. Trump two years ago.

Big fucking deal.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:15:57pm

re: #284 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash Guide to Halloween:

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Man Ben you’re an idiot. But keep on whining about an imaginary left. No wonder why your daughter will want nothing to do with you when she discovers you were raging against Obama the day of her birth.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:21:03pm

This uproar reflects a fundamental division in the Republican party, between business-oriented (“greed is good”) and social issues (“batshit”) elements. This is basically a class division between 1%ers who exploit bigots and the bigots themselves. The revolt by Flake and Corker reflects a belated recognition that the 1%er Frankensteins have well and truly lost control of their monster (as we have known for years) and, further, that they have lost all hope of regaining that control.

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bratwurst  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:22:52pm
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whitebeach  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:24:17pm

re: #330 Decatur Deb

In NYC you can just leave your bike leaning against an “Alternate Side of the Street” parking sign. No storage worries.

Good one. No bike worries of any kind after three minutes max.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:24:41pm

re: #341 bratwurst

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Seriously. Hillary more than anyone left or right warned against Trump and Trumpism.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:25:21pm

re: #340 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

This uproar reflects a fundamental division in the Republican party, between business-oriented (“greed is good”) and social issues (“batshit”) elements. This is basically a class division between 1%ers who exploit bigots and the bigots themselves. The revolt by Flake and Corker reflects a belated recognition that the 1%er Frankensteins have well and truly lost control of their monster (as we have known for years) and, further, that they have lost all hope of regaining that control.

What really sucks is the rest of us have gotten caught in the middle of their divide.

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(Bert the Turtle)  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:29:54pm

re: #344 HappyWarrior

What really sucks is the rest of us have gotten caught in the middle of their divide.

.. and so it goes.

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petesh  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:31:20pm

re: #343 HappyWarrior

Seriously. Hillary more than anyone left or right warned against Trump and Trumpism.

Yes, she did. Unfortunately, that’s about all that ever got reported, and that badly, because she also laid out a whole raft of decent policy proposals. The country missed a great opportunity, although of course it’s not just Hillary we failed to elect. A couple dozen more Reps and a couple of Senators along with HRC and, well, we’d be much better off. MOST of us would be.

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bratwurst  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:33:58pm

re: #346 petesh

Yes, she did. Unfortunately, that’s about all that ever got reported, and that badly, because she also laid out a whole raft of decent policy proposals. The country missed a great opportunity, although of course it’s not just Hillary we failed to elect. A couple dozen more Reps and a couple of Senators along with HRC and, well, we’d be much better off. MOST of us would be.

And yet you will still see Bernie fans AND snooty above-the-fray centrists crying that Hillary didn’t talk policy at all!

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Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:35:56pm

Demented

Needy
Baby

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whitebeach  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:37:48pm

re: #338 bratwurst

Here is what I keep coming back to:

Trump is exactly who he portrayed himself to be as he ran. He’s a pathological liar. He’s a misogynist. He’s a bigot. He’s a sociopath.

I am not Superman or a psychic or anyone with any kind of special insight into politics or the human condition. Even so, I was able to clearly see all of the above. I therefore voted for the one and only person who had a chance to prevent Trump from becoming POTUS.

I wholeheartedly agree with what Corker and Flake said today about Trump. Having said that, talk is cheap. It’s better than nothing, of course, but it does little to nothing to fix this massive problem we have.

If folks like McCain and Corker and Flake are serious about putting country ahead of party, it is going to take a lot more than talk. They are going to have to talk action. If they are willing and able to do that, I will gladly praise them.

Until that time, they have done very little but come to the same realization that you and I had about Donald J. Trump two years ago.

Big fucking deal.

Every word you say is true. Wish there was an applause function here besides the single upding I can give.

The only thing that I would question is “the same realization that you and I had about Donald J. Trump two years ago.” I had the same realization circa 1971, when I first landed in New York and Trump and I were both in our twenties. Not a single thing I’ve seen from or about him in all the years since has joggled that realization at all, but only reinforced it. I wish that just this once the country would have listened to the people who know Trump best and despise him, New Yorkers.

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Archangelus  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:39:47pm

re: #347 bratwurst

And yet you will still see Bernie fans AND snooty above-the-fray centrists crying that Hillary didn’t talk policy at all!

Sadly I don’t see the Berniebots ending their incessant “we were right everyone else doesn’t matter” approach anytime soon…. Has the same expiration date as the Trumpers…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:44:45pm

re: #350 Archangelus

Saw “he would have won. *insert rally video here*” posts on my FB today. *scroll faster*

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:49:34pm

re: #343 HappyWarrior

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meteor  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:50:19pm

re: #287 makeitstop

Me too.

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:53:45pm
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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:57:30pm

re: #354 JordanRules

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There’s an awful lot of white in that picture.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:58:43pm

re: #352 JordanRules

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Yep. She understood what Trumpism more than anyone since she was on the targeted end of it.

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 3:59:09pm
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VegasGolfer  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:01:47pm

re: #354 JordanRules

Only assholes use selfie sticks

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whitebeach  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:02:34pm

re: #354 JordanRules

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Do we finally have an answer to the ancient theological question, “How many flaming assholes can fit in a selfie?”

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Decatur Deb  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:04:12pm

re: #355 b.d. (bill d.)

There’s an awful lot of white in that picture.

HOA meeting at a FL retirement village.

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whitebeach  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:04:26pm

re: #358 VegasGolfer

Only assholes use selfie sticks

re: #359 whitebeach

Same point, just different approaches.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:04:35pm

re: #358 VegasGolfer

Only assholes use selfie sticks

Cool assholes use drones.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:04:36pm

Evening Lizardim.

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:06:33pm

re: #360 Decatur Deb

They look way too happy for any HOA to be involved. Scrabble tourney maybe.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:07:25pm

re: #364 JordanRules

They look way too happy for any HOA to be involved. Scrabble tourney maybe.

Just violated a widow’s shingle selection.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:10:08pm

re: #354 JordanRules

Thanks for teeing that up for me.
*swoosh smack*

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:10:08pm

re: #354 JordanRules

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Has DInesh commented on the GOP selfie yet?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:10:53pm

re: #366 Unshaken Defiance

Thanks for teeing that up for me.
*swoosh smack*

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Did you Happy Gilmore that shot?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:11:03pm

re: #367 b.d. (bill d.)

Has DInesh commented on the GOP selfie yet?

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What a racist ass.

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:12:48pm

re: #367 b.d. (bill d.)

Remember it’s different when Obama golfs, vacations, selfies, breathes…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:12:50pm

re: #321 (Bert the Turtle)

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hell, what *I* know is already alarming.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:17:07pm

re: #368 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Did you Happy Gilmore that shot?

That was kinda on the run. :-)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:18:10pm

re: #367 b.d. (bill d.)

Has DInesh commented on the GOP selfie yet?

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stpaulbear  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:18:11pm

re: #305 wrenchwench

I just had an old guy in here with a “bernie 2020” sweatshirt on. I was nice. I need the money.

I bet he left the store bummed out that you didn’t heap praise upon his sweatshirt.

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VegasGolfer  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:21:29pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:23:47pm

re: #354 JordanRules

That’s definitely an occasion that could be improved by adding massive quantities of rotting vegetation.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:24:32pm

re: #373 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Dinesh is just angry because no one will know who he is fifty years from now while Obama will be beloved.

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wrenchwench  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:25:43pm

re: #374 stpaulbear

I bet he left the store bummed out that you didn’t heap praise upon his sweatshirt.

He said he’d think about it and be back. Didn’t say what he would think about…

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EPR-radar  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:28:05pm

re: #377 HappyWarrior

Dinesh is just angry because no one will know who he is fifty years from now while Obama will be beloved.

Anyone who has been as dedicated a GOPer as Dinesh will likely prefer annihilation for all to the unbiased verdict of history.

Perhaps this is part of why the GOP is turning into an apocalyptic death cult. They are scared shitless of any history they can’t write to suit themselves.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:31:53pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:33:46pm

re: #380 FormerDirtDart

[The new U.S. ambassador to Canada says when it comes to climate change she believes in “both sides of the science” ]

We have entered the age of Scientific Bothsiderism.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:34:01pm

re: #262 Ace-o-aces

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In a lot of ways, Trump reminds me of Wilson Fisk on ‘Daredevil’, but I don’t see him being quite the brutal fighter the Fisk is.

Those tiny hands…..

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:35:51pm

re: #380 FormerDirtDart

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What’s the OTHER side of the science? “Okay, so you say that the p value is 0.001, but that just means that you could be wrong!!!”

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:36:47pm

Other acceptable answers include: Democracy, US national security, the future, and the poors.

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Archangelus  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:46:11pm

Been seeing this and references to it too much on my Twitter feed, couldn’t resist…

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Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:50:19pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:53:42pm

re: #386 Stanley Sea

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Good to hear.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:54:05pm

re: #377 HappyWarrior

Dinesh is just angry because no one will know who he is fifty years from now while Obama will be beloved.

I didn’t know who he was now.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:54:56pm

re: #386 Stanley Sea

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We just need to make all wingnuts aware that the Trump tax plan gives a bigger tax cut to Kaepernick and almost every other NFLer than it does the average Joe White Bread.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:55:39pm

re: #388 Ace Rothstein

I didn’t know who he was now.

You’re ahead of your time…

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:58:56pm

re: #15 goddamnedfrank

I don’t. He’s not leaving the party or voting against the GOP & Trump’s efforts to roll back decades of progress, he’s just passive aggressively bailing out for a lucrative private sector job.

Exactly. He’s no hero. He voted for Sessions and other incompetent folks to run key parts of the government and he voted for the repeal of the ACA. Just another coward who is slinking away from a bully he helped to elect.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 24, 2017 • 4:58:58pm

Finding your roots tonight on PBS. Ta-Nehisi Coats is a guest.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:00:17pm

Let’s go Astros!

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Skip Intro  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:05:06pm

Fresno student pelted with juice boxes and called gay slurs at school on her Sweet 16

Logann Pruneda, a student at Bullard High, says she was pelted with full juice boxes at school on Monday for being gay. It was her 16th birthday.

The Fresno Unified sophomore said that after a fire drill outside the school, she was hit with three boxes of apple juice from behind, leaving an abrasion and bruise on her neck. She was also hit in the back and ribs.

She heard a male call her “a faggot, a queer, a lesbo” during the attack, but did not see who did it, and did not recognize the voice.

“They were pretty hard throws,” she said. “All I heard was them calling me really mean names that involved my sexuality.”

This is the other California, the one on the east side of I-5. It’s not much different from Texas or Alabama.

sanluisobispo.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:10:32pm

So, apparently it’s big news that the Dems funded the Steele Dossier, which everyone has known since David Corn revealed its existence almost a year ago.

OMG! Clinton spent money for Opposition Research!

Meanwhile, Republicans used the Congressional investigative power, on our dime, for theirs.

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:11:57pm

re: #395 Blind Frog Belly White

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:12:35pm

re: #394 Skip Intro

“She heard a male call her “a faggot, a queer, a lesbo” during the attack,”

Someone’s got a poor grasp of his homophobic insults.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:12:47pm

Full Moron Jacket

The Trump that’s our great president now? That’s the nice Trump. The good Trump. The GOPe have been fighting him since 2015, and his voters forever.

The next guy won’t be so nice. If they don’t do what this Trump is asking them to do, then they’re all going to be retired.

Do what this Trump wants. You’re not going to like what comes after Trump.

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Skip Intro  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:14:07pm

re: #397 Blind Frog Belly White

Someone’s got a poor grasp of his homophobic insults.

It’s Fresno, Rage Furby and Free Republic territory.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:14:14pm

Oops

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JordanRules  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:17:04pm

The chaser stat!

I see you Fox & AM hate radio! Well done by the OG hate messengers who then tapped in their new media accomplices.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:17:15pm

Predictably infuriating or infuriatingly predictable?

I just paged this about the post-mortems that the leadership of the Democratic party are relying on to help them understand WTF happened, and guide their strategy to winning back the House and later, the Senate.

I’ll cut to the chase:

We. Are. Fucking. Doomed.

Not that Democrats can’t win. Not that the country is starting to have a real revulsion to Trump and the fuckclowns he’s foisted upon all of us.

It’s that the DCCC prefers to live in a Cloud Cuckoo-land where everyone is kind, generous of spirit, and unafflicted by partisan hate.

Clueless in the Midwest. Or should that just say, “Clueless anywhere outside the Beltway or their own fantasy-world”

theatlantic.com

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:18:07pm

re: #392 GlutenFreeJesus

Finding your roots tonight on PBS. Ta-Nehisi Coats is a guest.

“Why’s it always gotta be about slaves and slaveowners???” ////

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:18:31pm

I hate to say this - I mean I REALLY hate to say this!! - but this is a point of shame for a lot of us men. Although I do not believe I’ve witnessed any Quid Pro Quo harrassment, back in the 1980s a LOT of ‘Hostile Environment’ harrassment went on around me and I said nothing.

I kinda bought into the ‘Our industry is special!’ argument. Then the folks presenting a Sexual Harrassment training said, “Yeah. Every single place we go, in every industry, they say that.

Sorry about that.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:19:45pm
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Ace-o-aces  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:20:50pm

This is real. I remember this cover.

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Skip Intro  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:26:46pm

re: #405 The Vicious Babushka

She ought to used to it, growing up in a house full of Huckabees.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:29:06pm

What Joy says is pretty much undeniable.

I hate white people. We really suck.

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retired cynic  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:31:22pm

re: #408 Blind Frog Belly White

What Joy says is pretty much undeniable.

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I hate white people. We really suck.

NPR also said that DT actually had 1% fewer white voters than Romney. So I think misogyny and Russia and Comey and gerrymandering and voter suppression and the Electoral College played their parts.

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retired cynic  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:35:01pm

Democrats picked up a state house seat in NH tonight, “the last special election anywhere in the country before” Virginia, New Jersey, Washington …

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makeitstop  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:36:07pm

The best description of Huckabee-Sanders I’ve seen in a while -

‘Mulish.’ Yup, sounds about right.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:38:25pm

re: #409 retired cynic

Do not forget Cambridge Analitica(sp?) and Putin too.

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retired cynic  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:40:00pm

re: #412 PhillyPretzel

Do not forget Cambridge Analitica(sp?) and Putin too.

Too right on Cambridge Analytica ?, but I did have Russia listed!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:41:00pm

re: #411 makeitstop

The best description of Huckabee-Sanders I’ve seen in a while -

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‘Mulish.’ Yup, sounds about right.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:42:46pm

re: #407 Skip Intro

She ought to used to it, growing up in a house full of Huckabees.

Coming soon on the SyFy channel….

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:44:00pm

re: #415 Barefoot Grin

Coming soon on the SyFy channel….

You’ve heard of Sharknado, now comes the Derpocalypse

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jaunte  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:44:35pm
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plansbandc  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:44:41pm

re: #367 b.d. (bill d.)

Has DInesh commented on the GOP selfie yet?

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Boy. Jesus H. Christ. Think I might have blocked that from memory. What a despicable bigot.

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jaunte  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:45:33pm
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jaunte  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:45:48pm
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bratwurst  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:46:25pm

Time to check in with ol’ Tuck face!

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:46:56pm

re: #418 plansbandc

Then Dinesh better not go to any tourist hot spots. You see that all the time.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:49:13pm

re: #421 bratwurst

Gee. I wonder what he would have said about whole neighborhoods in NYC at the beginning of the 1900’s.

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jaunte  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:50:08pm

re: #421 bratwurst

English language disappearing from many homes, because we speak American here.

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majii  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:50:30pm

re: #275 Eclectic Cyborg

“Because blacks just have it so good in America today!”

Yes, that’s why the FBI suddenly created a black identity threat, and Fox News promoted the idea that Black Lives Matter is a terrorist group. I remember a few years back that the Tea Partiers could show their natural-born *sses in public 24/7/365 [ some of them with guns] and no one called them a threat to America or a terrorist group. Imagine that! Trump & Co. thinks we’re stupid. Black Americans know that his objection to some NFL players kneeling during the national anthem doesn’t have sh*t to do with patriotism or respecting our vets and troops. It’s about control via maintaining the status quo, promoting divisiveness, and painting us a being un-American “Others,” but don’t anyone dare call it racism.

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jaunte  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:50:44pm

What the heck is a serviette?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:51:33pm

re: #424 jaunte

English language disappearing from many homes, because we speak American here.

If my kids grew up bilingual, I would not be opposed. Sure, I’d like them to speak English primarily because that’s the only language I know fluently, but if they went to Spanish or Japanese or *GASP* Chinese as a secondary language, who gives a fuck? Means they can communicate better in the truly global economy. What’s the universal language most likely to be, anyway?

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plansbandc  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:51:59pm

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:52:55pm

re: #426 jaunte

From the free dictionary:
thefreedictionary.com

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Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:54:12pm

re: #395 Blind Frog Belly White

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bratwurst  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:54:59pm

re: #426 jaunte

What the heck is a serviette?

It’s a napkin in countries where that word is too synonymous with a feminine hygiene product to be on the dining table.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:55:28pm

re: #424 jaunte

English language disappearing from many homes, because we speak American here.

Yeppers, the only time English is heard in this house is if I accidentally turn on that Downtown Abbie show while looking fer teh NASCAR.

433
jaunte  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:56:56pm

re: #431 bratwurst

It’s an old joke in my family, from when I was a six year old American speaker in a very English environment. I was used to having a napkin to wipe hands with, and when asked by the host if I needed a serviette, that question was my response.

434
HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:57:14pm

re: #421 bratwurst

Time to check in with ol’ Tuck face!

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He’s such a dickhead.

435
Single-handed sailor  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:58:01pm

re: #426 jaunte

What the heck is a serviette?

napkin

436
PhillyPretzel  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:58:21pm

re: #432 b.d. (bill d.)

It is Downton Abbey. amazon.com

437
jaunte  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:58:28pm

Moving on to boot and lorry.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:59:04pm

re: #426 jaunte

What the heck is a serviette?

Napkin.

439
TedStriker  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:59:22pm

re: #436 PhillyPretzel

It is Downton Abbey. amazon.com

We know, he was making fun of morons (notice the wingnut font).

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jaunte  Oct 24, 2017 • 5:59:47pm

Downtown napkins.

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majii  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:00:47pm

re: #296 Belafon

“My oldest, when he was 8, went as Blade for Halloween. It was his choice. We felt no need to cover him in black face.”

My daughter dressed as Trinity from the Matrix one Halloween, and I didn’t cover her face in white paint. It’s only a costume. Shapiro knows that but he can’t stop himself from using his media platform to push useless BS about fictional characters. He probably thinks it makes him look like an intellectual, but whenever I read something about him or something he writes, the word moron is the thing that pops into my mind, and it’s usually accompanied by the words pandering, divisive, arrogant, sh*t-flinging.

442
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:01:37pm
443
bratwurst  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:02:15pm

re: #433 jaunte

It’s an old joke in my family, from when I was a six year old American speaker in a very English environment. I was used to having a napkin to wipe hands with, and when asked by the host if I needed a serviette, that question was my response.

As someone who spent years of my life teaching English abroad, I cannot even begin to estimate how much classroom mileage I have gotten out of jokes regarding napkins vs. serviettes and rubbers vs. condoms.

444
Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:02:17pm

Chavez Ravine

445
jaunte  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:04:43pm
446
meteor  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:06:05pm
447
Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:06:59pm

re: #444 Stanley Sea

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Chavez Ravine

Christ, I hope the 2 digits are the FIRST two, not the LAST two.

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Kragar  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:09:43pm
449
FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:10:05pm

re: #444 Stanley Sea

The “10” is where the temperature goes. Only room for two digits, apparently.

Chavez Ravine

Then they should have ‘03” displayed

450
Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:10:13pm

686 people attended.

The grift of grifting

451
retired cynic  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:12:13pm

re: #450 Stanley Sea

Stick a cork in him. Both ends.

452
Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:12:26pm

JFC

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:12:59pm

re: #451 retired cynic

Do not forget his nose and ears.

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retired cynic  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:14:34pm

re: #453 PhillyPretzel

Do not forget his nose and ears.

Yep. Then give it a week or so.

455
retired cynic  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:16:25pm

re: #454 retired cynic

Say, that might be what happened to his father!

456
Barefoot Grin  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:18:46pm

I’m going to do this without google: “apron” used to be “napron” but the ‘n’ got swallowed into the indefinite article ‘a’. Thus, a napron over time became an apron.

457
William Lewis  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:18:51pm

re: #452 Stanley Sea

JFC

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What do you expect if you ask a Nazi anything outside of an interrogation room?

ETA: A police one that is.

458
Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:20:08pm

re: #457 William Lewis

What do you expect if you ask a Nazi anything outside of an interrogation room?

ETA: A police one that is.

Roast done? Critique?

459
Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:21:03pm

re: #458 Stanley Sea

Roast done? Critique?

I’m a pork roast maven. Had ideas after you put it in the oven.

460
SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:21:05pm

The thing about affirmative action is that there isn’t enough black people to take all the white people’s jobs.

461
lawhawk  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:21:35pm

re: #452 Stanley Sea

1) Why the fuck is anyone calling Gorka a doctor. He’s not credentialed anywhere except his vivid Nazi imagination.
2) Gorka’s a white supremacist whose agenda aligns with Trump’s reactionary extremism.
3) Gorka’s using all the white supremacist code words, and treats tough questions the same way Trump does - attack the questioner while ignoring the question (or giving a coherent answer).

462
FormerDirtDart  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:23:18pm

So, 34 years ago I was at the movies watching Brainstorm.
It would be a couple years before I got around to seeing the end of the movie.

463
gocart mozart  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:26:21pm
Nonetheless, I did read the dissertation last night. Members of the Lawyers, Guns and Money community have asked for my opinion. I would not characterize it as a work of scholarship. I am confident that it would not earn him a doctorate at any reputable academic department in the United States. Indeed, it would be unacceptable as an undergraduate thesis for the Department of Government or the School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University. My guess is that Gorka wanted to call himself “Doctor,” and his PhD-granting institution was happy to oblige.

More of a diploma mill PhD lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:27:16pm

re: #450 Stanley Sea

686 people attended.

The grift of grifting

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Donnie Junior’s speech was paid for by The University of North Texas

star-telegram.com

Trump Jr. scolds universities during UNT speech, a fundraiser for scholarships

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Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:29:12pm

re: #464 b.d. (bill d.)

Donnie Junior’s speech was paid for by The University of North Texas

star-telegram.com

disgusting.

The whole everything is disgusting.

I want take out.

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William Lewis  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:38:53pm

re: #458 Stanley Sea

Roast done? Critique?

Oh, yes, came out very nicely. By being fairly small and in two chunks it cooked quite well in that amount of time. Nicely tender. The tomato, pineapple & juices combined to make a nice slightly sweet sauce that went well on a bed of rice. Could have used a bit more garlic but I used all I had left but that would probably be my only change next time unless I went with tomato sauce instead of juice to thicken the final sauce a bit more.

I’ve got a good two more meals left and unlike some leftovers, I’m actually looking forward to the next serving.

467
Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:43:49pm

re: #466 William Lewis

Oh, yes, came out very nicely. By being fairly small and in two chunks it cooked quite well in that amount of time. Nicely tender. The tomato, pineapple & juices combined to make a nice slightly sweet sauce that went well on a bed of rice. Could have used a bit more garlic but I used all I had left but that would probably be my only change next time unless I went with tomato sauce instead of juice to thicken the final sauce a bit more.

I’ve got a good two more meals left and unlike some leftovers, I’m actually looking forward to the next serving.

The pineapple threw me for a loop. Glad it turned out good!!

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William Lewis  Oct 24, 2017 • 6:46:42pm

re: #467 Stanley Sea

The pineapple threw me for a loop. Glad it turned out good!!

Just like ham & pineapple - either in a pot or on a pizza. It’s a good flavor combination. The other thing that works well with either ham or a roast is applesauce or a slow cooker full of apple juice - that’s especially nice if you have potato or cabbage to cook with the roast or a ham.


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