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goddamnedfrank  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:07:58pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:11:26pm

re: #1 goddamnedfrank

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And what will we hear from 19th Century Fox?

Hillary sold that Uranium to Russia! Impeach Her!

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austin_blue  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:12:49pm

Off topic, tied 5-5 in the top the eleventh at the Chavez Ravine.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:15:14pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:16:20pm

Another home run for the Astros
Now lead 7-5

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meteor  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:16:22pm

Wow, this game! Crimony pete!

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austin_blue  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:17:14pm

And a home run puts the Astros up 7-5!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:17:26pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:17:29pm

I contend that there is no GOP civil war, at least not one being waged by the likes of Corker and Flake. They’ve bowed out, they’re staying long enough to stuff their pockets in the hopes of a cushy private sector job on which to retire. They both voted hours after Flake’s speech to screw over millions of Americans to shove millions of dollars into the pockets of the rich elite. The civil war is an illusion that some are engaging in to tell themselves that there is a fight for the soul of the GOP. It’s an illusion for a simple reason: The GOP has no soul because they sold it away decades ago to the highest bidder.

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JordanRules  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:18:25pm
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austin_blue  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:22:06pm

re: #9 Targetpractice

I contend that there is no GOP civil war, at least not one being waged by the likes of Corker and Flake. They’ve bowed out, they’re staying long enough to stuff their pockets in the hopes of a cushy private sector job on which to retire. They both voted hours after Flake’s speech to screw over millions of Americans to shove millions of dollars into the pockets of the rich elite. The civil war is an illusion that some are engaging in to tell themselves that there is a fight for the soul of the GOP. It’s an illusion for a simple reason: The GOP has no soul because they sold it away decades ago to the highest bidder.

I agree. If there is no change in their approach to public policy, there is no change to their intentions. It is still all about screwing the poor and the middle class and benefitting the rich.

Full stop.

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meteor  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:22:41pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:23:21pm

Well, I have the info for the company that makes our chlorinator pumps. I’ll be calling them in the morning to get two pumps on the village credit card with rush shipping. (I convinced the other board members we really should have a back-up pump for situations like this one.)

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:23:37pm

I wonder if my mom is forcing herself to stay up to watch this?
She’s a HUGE baseball fan, but hasn’t been able to really watch any games for the last couple years since she dumped her cable.

In fact, the only reason she’s even able to watch the World Series is that in the last few weeks she’s been able to get her local FOX TV channel to tune in. I think it’s due to that TV antenna collapse down near Miami a few weeks ago.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:24:06pm

re: #11 austin_blue

I agree. If there is no change in their approach to public policy, there is no change to their intentions. It is still all about screwing the poor and the middle class and benefitting the rich.

Full stop.

They’re just embarrassed by Trump changing out the dogwhistle with a fog horn. Other than that, they’re still all on the same page.

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JordanRules  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:25:07pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:25:36pm

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹

They’re just embarrassed by Trump changing out the dogwhistle with a fog horn. Other than that, they’re still all on the same page.

Exactly, Flake and Corker aren’t standing up for anything other than the worry that Trump’s antics will hurt the party. They could give a fuck less about the poors, they just don’t want them to see the true face of the party.

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teleskiguy  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:27:31pm

I will admit I don’t watch cable news at all, I see snippets on Twitter and most of the time I skip them. In this video where Bob Corker tells a reporter what he thinks about Fuckface Von Clownstick and he says “…the lack of desire to be competent…”

HOLY FREUDIAN SLIP BATMAN!

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JordanRules  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:28:13pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:28:37pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:28:52pm

Flake and Corker have enough foresight to know that the longer Cheeto goes on unchecked, the harsher the payback will be when the Democrats get back on top. The worst case, from their point of view, is that Democrats will regain both houses of Congress and that a new Democratic President will take office in 2021 and begin a program akin to FDR’s Hundred Days. This will sweep away 40 years of Reagan-initiated looting and pillage, with repeal of voodoo tax breaks, real action on climate change, new teeth for civil rights, prosecution of war profiteers and foreign agents, single payer healthcare, etc. By then, if we survive at all, Trump will be so discredited that Republicans will be as rare as avowed Nazis were in Germany in the summer of ‘45.
In short, their whole world is in danger and they are trying to sound a warning to the rest of the greed is good crowd. It has so far fallen on deaf ears with that audience but others have heard and will act.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:29:11pm

THIS GAME

what a WS is. really

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meteor  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:29:22pm

re: #20 FormerDirtDart

Squee! Who’s a good boy?

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JordanRules  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:31:19pm

re: #20 FormerDirtDart

That bow tie tho!!!

I want him on all my flights.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:31:35pm

HOME RUN
7-6 Astros

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:31:45pm

re: #18 teleskiguy

I will admit I don’t watch cable news at all, I see snippets on Twitter and most of the time I skip them. In this video where Bob Corker tells a reporter what he thinks about Fuckface Von Clownstick and he says “…the lack of desire to be competent…”

HOLY FREUDIAN SLIP BATMAN!

Nope, not a Freudian slip. Trump is exactly what Grover Norquist said was needed in a GOP president: Someone who could hold a pen crayon.

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meteor  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:31:52pm

This game is making me not sleep.

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austin_blue  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:31:56pm

Dodgers down to their last out.

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retired cynic  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:32:32pm

re: #19 JordanRules

There is no such thing as political coincidence.

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austin_blue  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:33:42pm

Oh! And it’s a homer to left center to get the Dodgers to 7-6!

Hell of a game.

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RinaX  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:33:48pm

I am not snickering at the news that Mark Halperin has been exposed as a sexual harasser. I am not.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:33:50pm

re: #28 austin_blue

Dodgers down to their last out.

down to last strike now

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meteor  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:35:01pm

re: #30 austin_blue

Yipes!

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:35:06pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:35:32pm

re: #32 FormerDirtDart

down to last strike now

The difference between baseball and cricket: the whole world can be falling apart but NOTHING interrupts a World Series game.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:36:27pm

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹

The difference between baseball and cricket: the whole world can be falling apart but NOTHING interrupts a World Series game.

except an earthquake

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meteor  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:36:51pm

Astros win.

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LastYearsMan  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:36:58pm

re: #1 goddamnedfrank

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A “turd-fuckin”, as it were.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:37:10pm

ASTROS WIN
Series tied 1-1

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austin_blue  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:37:23pm

re: #37 meteor

Astros win.

Yay!

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retired cynic  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:37:29pm

re: #37 meteor

Astros win.

I’m happy for Juanita Jean

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:37:42pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:38:18pm

The most beautiful blessing to Allegro.

And all you other Stro fans.

Best game in my memory.

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Amalthea's Shadow  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:38:42pm

I wanted to pop in to say “Hey all”! Finally got brave enough to register after having lurked for a couple of years. Signed up for Twitter tonight also….we’ll see how THAT goes. I’ll mostly be a lurker, as I’m a bit of a cautious person by nature. I did want to thank all of you for being the best group of commentators I’ve found on the Internet. So, if you’re a beer imbiber I brought along Lagunitas Pils. And I only eat pineapple on my pizza if I’m in the mood (about once a year). So…..carry on. I’ll try to keep up and I’ll try to commit to spreading calmness and sanity in these crazy days we’re living through.

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retired cynic  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:39:27pm

re: #44 Amalthea’s Shadow

Wilkommen!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:39:50pm

re: #44 Amalthea’s Shadow

I wanted to pop in to say “Hey all”! Finally got brave enough to register after having lurked for a couple of years. Signed up for Twitter tonight also….we’ll see how THAT goes. I’ll mostly be a lurker, as I’m a bit of a cautious person by nature. I did want to thank all of you for being the best group of commentators I’ve found on the Internet. So, if you’re a beer imbiber I brought along Lagunitas Pils. And I only eat pineapple on my pizza if I’m in the mood (about once a year). So…..carry on. I’ll try to keep up and I’ll try to commit to spreading calmness and sanity in these crazy days we’re living through.

Hi! Welcome aboard! Did you bring pizza and beer?

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JordanRules  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:40:43pm

re: #44 Amalthea’s Shadow

Heyyyy!!!!!!

Great to have you here!

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:41:08pm

Yes, the Astros split. Sorry, been a fan for 42 years.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:41:23pm

re: #44 Amalthea’s Shadow

Welcome!

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:42:06pm

re: #44 Amalthea’s Shadow

Welcome on board!

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:42:57pm

OK, now I make you all cry

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Stanley Sea  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:43:11pm

re: #48 Ace Rothstein

Yes, the Astros split. Sorry, been a fan for 42 years.

I am so torn, rooting for both of them.
It is a great series.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:43:26pm

re: #44 Amalthea’s Shadow

Welcome…. this is a good lot. We take care of our own.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:44:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:44:16pm

This is going to be s good series. Two hungry fanbases, likable players of all ages, and of course Vin Scully throwing out the first pitch.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:44:51pm

You Can Officially Bring A Gun Into Texas Psychiatric Hospitals

Gun owners can now bring their firearms into Texas’ 10 state psychiatric hospitals.

Read that last sentence one more time.

Prior to open carry being the law of the land in Texas, guns were banned in state psychiatric facilities. No one — visitors, deliverymen, et cetera — could bring firearms on the campuses. Even local law enforcement officers, who were already allowed to bring their weapons into the facilities, regularly locked up their guns before entering Austin State Hospital. You know, just in case.

As of June 2016 visitors can bring guns into the buildings where patients live. Employees are still prohibited from bringing them on campus. Which makes sense, right? Someone visiting a facility literally filled with mentally unstable people can bring a loaded firearm in. But if that firearm is taken and used by one of the mentally ill or emotionally disturbed people in that facility, no one actually working there (let’s call them targets) could defend themselves.

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Teukka  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:45:35pm

re: #44 Amalthea’s Shadow

I wanted to pop in to say “Hey all”! Finally got brave enough to register after having lurked for a couple of years. Signed up for Twitter tonight also….we’ll see how THAT goes. I’ll mostly be a lurker, as I’m a bit of a cautious person by nature. I did want to thank all of you for being the best group of commentators I’ve found on the Internet. So, if you’re a beer imbiber I brought along Lagunitas Pils. And I only eat pineapple on my pizza if I’m in the mood (about once a year). So…..carry on. I’ll try to keep up and I’ll try to commit to spreading calmness and sanity in these crazy days we’re living through.

Welcome, hatchling!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:45:49pm

My stomach is in knots though. Just so frustrated by what’s going on in our country and feeling uncertain about the future of our nation and people and feeling quite cynical.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:46:18pm

re: #56 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

You Can Officially Bring A Gun Into Texas Psychiatric Hospitals

That’s a great idea! //

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JordanRules  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:48:34pm

re: #56 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Fuckin aye man! I’m doing an ‘I give up’ laugh right now. It’s not funny and I’m disgusted but I don’t even know how to keep reacting to all this madness.

What in the entire fuckety, fuck, fuck?!?!?

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:48:45pm
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Amalthea's Shadow  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:48:46pm

re: #56 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Okay, who’s really running the asylums?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:48:52pm

re: #44 Amalthea’s Shadow

I wanted to pop in to say “Hey all”! Finally got brave enough to register after having lurked for a couple of years. Signed up for Twitter tonight also….we’ll see how THAT goes. I’ll mostly be a lurker, as I’m a bit of a cautious person by nature. I did want to thank all of you for being the best group of commentators I’ve found on the Internet. So, if you’re a beer imbiber I brought along Lagunitas Pils. And I only eat pineapple on my pizza if I’m in the mood (about once a year). So…..carry on. I’ll try to keep up and I’ll try to commit to spreading calmness and sanity in these crazy days we’re living through.

Welcome.

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plansbandc  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:50:10pm

re: #51 FormerDirtDart

Tripaws do great. It’s amazing how adaptable the little fellows are.

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allegro  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:50:36pm

That was exhausting. But WOW what an amazing game. So happy for the team and the city right now.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:50:43pm

re: #60 JordanRules

Fuckin aye man! I’m doing an ‘I give up’ laugh right now. It’s not funny and I’m disgusted but I don’t even know how to keep reacting to all this madness.

What in the entire fuckety, fuck, fuck?!?!?

Seriously. I mean that’s the one place that actually should be a “gun free zone.” There’s not only the potential for staff to be harmed but self harm among the patients.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:51:25pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

My stomach is in knots though. Just so frustrated by what’s going on in our country and feeling uncertain about the future of our nation and people and feeling quite cynical.

There is a reason the nation should never give conservatives unfettered control of the government. We have a long history of screwing up the country when conservatives have a lock on government.

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teleskiguy  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:53:09pm

re: #44 Amalthea’s Shadow

Lurking is all good and whatnot, but LGF is more fun when you comment, at least that’s my experience. I registered in 2008 and lurked for years, until, well, I can’t remember. But now I’m a regular jabbermouth who posts the skiing stuff.

Welcome!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:53:13pm

re: #62 Amalthea’s Shadow

Okay, who’s really running the asylums?

Wingnuts, at least in Texas.

My brother-in-law is aware my wife and I will not travel to his state to visit.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:54:15pm

re: #67 Anymouse 🌹

There is a reason the nation should never give conservatives unfettered control of the government. We have a long history of screwing up the country when conservatives have a lock on government.

No doubt. That’s part of why I feel sick. This guy has me questioning my faith in my country and countrymen/women and man it hurts.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:54:28pm

re: #66 HappyWarrior

Seriously. I mean that’s the one place that actually should be a “gun free zone.” There’s not only the potential for staff to be harmed but self harm among the patients.

According to the National Rifle Association, the only place that should be a gun-free zone is their own headquarters.

It’s almost as if they don’t believe their own rhetoric and are a bunch of hypocrites.

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austin_blue  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:55:04pm

Well, now that the game is over (and it was just tremendous), let’s all remember that the drumpf is still a cocksucking motherfucking pussy grabbing lying son of a bitch.

Strange, isn’t it? A baseball game is our preferred choice of actual pleasure, which has a real winner and loser. Then our reality returns to what the Mango Spunk Spurter will post in the morning. My, oh, my.

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teleskiguy  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:56:26pm

re: #72 austin_blue

let’s all remember that the drumpf is still a cocksucking motherfucking pussy grabbing lying son of a bitch.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:56:33pm

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

According to the National Rifle Association, the only place that should be a gun-free zone is their own headquarters.

It’s almost as if they don’t believe their own rhetoric and are a bunch of hypocrites.

Yep they’re frauds.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:57:25pm

re: #70 HappyWarrior

No doubt. That’s part of why I feel sick. This guy has me questioning my faith in my country and countrymen/women and man it hurts.

The majority of the people are fine.

I would imagine a significant portion of the voters also voted (R) simply because they always vote (R) and didn’t know a lot about either Trump or Clinton.

There is a reason FOX and fellow travellers are going all-in on attacking Hillary Clinton. They are desperately trying to divert attention from what is going on.

It can’t last forever: Even here in my little conservative utopia, I occasionally get questions from people in town about what’s going on. (I am saddened that so many people here pulled the R lever, but maybe in the next election that might change.)

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:57:26pm

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

According to the National Rifle Association, the only place that should be a gun-free zone is their own headquarters.

It’s almost as if they don’t believe their own rhetoric and are a bunch of hypocrites.

Aren’t political conventions also gun-free zones? Can citizens carry weapons into courts and government offices in Texas?

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:58:12pm

re: #73 teleskiguy

Hide that! Did not want to see that in the open!

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austin_blue  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:58:16pm

re: #73 teleskiguy

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Oh, that’s just perfect.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:58:28pm

re: #72 austin_blue

Well, now that the game is over (and it was just tremendous), let’s all remember that the drumpf is still a cocksucking motherfucking pussy grabbing lying son of a bitch.

Strange, isn’t it? A baseball game is our preferred choice of actual pleasure, which has a real winner and loser. Then our reality returns to what the Mango Spunk Spurter will post in the morning. My, oh, my.

I’ll be honest. I just felt so at peace when I was in Europe this summer. I didn’t have to constantly be reminded of him. And then as I got into Amsterdam, Charlottesville happened.

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Amalthea's Shadow  Oct 25, 2017 • 9:59:34pm

re: #68 teleskiguy

I LOVE your skiing posts. I don’t ski myself, but I love to watch others do their ballet on the snow. My only kid has her horses in Granby and gets to ski Winter Park a few times a year. She loves Colorado, as well all smart people should.
Thanks to all of you for the very warm welcome!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 25, 2017 • 10:00:23pm

re: #75 Anymouse 🌹

The majority of the people are fine.

I would imagine a significant portion of the voters also voted (R) simply because they always vote (R) and didn’t know a lot about either Trump or Clinton.

There is a reason FOX and fellow travellers are going all-in on attacking Hillary Clinton. They are desperately trying to divert attention from what is going on.

It can’t last forever: Even here in my little conservative utopia, I occasionally get questions from people in town about what’s going on. (I am saddened that so many people here pulled the R lever, but maybe in the next election that might change.)

Thing is. This propaganda works. And then there’s how cynical I’ve gotten about my generation. I really naively thought we’d overcome a lot of the prejudices of the past but the alt right white supremacists have tons of appeal with millennials.

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teleskiguy  Oct 25, 2017 • 10:01:10pm

re: #79 austin_blue

Oh, that’s just perfect.

My ‘Trump’ folder in my LGF Image Library is brimming with awesomely offensive shit like that.

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teleskiguy  Oct 25, 2017 • 10:03:48pm

re: #81 Amalthea’s Shadow

I’ve lapped the Jane on a 19 inch powder day. I might have rode that chair 20 times in one day. Very memorable day, late April 2008.

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JordanRules  Oct 25, 2017 • 10:06:12pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 25, 2017 • 10:06:21pm

re: #76 Hecuba’s daughter

Aren’t political conventions also gun-free zones? Can citizens carry weapons into courts and government offices in Texas?

texastribune.org

At the end of last year, Waller County, Tex. won a court case to keep a ban on guns in its courthouse. Ken Paxton is court-shopping in Texas to find another court that will overturn that ban.

He is also trying to force cities to rescind bans on open-carry in city halls.

This has been a fight in Texas for several years, ever since wingnuts seized the state legislature (always a bad idea to let conservatives control a whole government).

Rep. Jonathan Strickland (R-Wingnuttia) filed a bill to allow unlicensed concealed carry anywhere.

dallasnews.com

My own state allows open carry, but guns are banned from all public buildings.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 25, 2017 • 10:08:30pm

re: #82 HappyWarrior

Thing is. This propaganda works. And then there’s how cynical I’ve gotten about my generation. I really naively thought we’d overcome a lot of the prejudices of the past but the alt right white supremacists have tons of appeal with millennials.

Not so much. They are a lot louder. That’s it.

Note the counter-protests and rallies every time those guys show up. They are not the majority, they are just trying to make it appear they are.

Recently when they tried to plan several protests at once across the country, counter-protesters organised and they chose instead to cancel their rallies.

Note the difference between the Nazi rallies and the Women’s March in terms of numbers.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 25, 2017 • 10:12:13pm

Also, as far as protests go, even the Nazi rallies and counter-protesters have been far tamer than a lot of the protests against the Vietnam War, or Civil Rights marches.

As it turns out, most of the Nazi douches fold up like a cheap suit when challenged.

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austin_blue  Oct 25, 2017 • 10:14:28pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

I’ll be honest. I just felt so at peace when I was in Europe this summer. I didn’t have to constantly be reminded of him. And then as I got into Amsterdam, Charlottesville happened.

She Who Must Be Be Obeyed and I spend a lot of time in the UK in the spring. SHMBO’s sister lives north of London and is married to one of the founding members of Silly Wizard. He is a guitar geek and in the Scots Trad Hall of Fame. Collects and sells. He has had a recent hard-on for Kathy Wingert’s axes. He’s got three of them.

Sorry, got off track.

The spring 2017 trip was weird. Everyone up in Edinburgh wanted to know “What the hell happened with the election? Why didn’t Hillary win?”

What could I say?

“Russians and rock dumb stupid.”

Night all. See you on the flip side.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 25, 2017 • 10:14:42pm

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹

Not so much. They are a lot louder. That’s it.

Note the counter-protests and rallies every time those guys show up. They are not the majority, they are just trying to make it appear they are.

Recently when they tried to plan several protests at once across the country, counter-protesters organised and they chose instead to cancel their rallies.

Note the difference between the Nazi rallies and the Women’s March in terms of numbers.

You do make true points. I don’t think they’re a majority either but damn there’s this right wing subculture that Trump awoke that scares me. It needs to be defeated. Our Republic must be preserved against the Trumps, Bannons, and Milos of the world.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 25, 2017 • 10:16:56pm

re: #89 austin_blue

She Who Must Be Be Obeyed and I spend a lot of time in the UK in the spring. SHMBO’s sister lives north of London and is married to one of the founding members of Silly Wizard. He is a guitar geek and in the Scots Trad Hall of Fame. Collects and sells. He has had a recent hard-on for Kathy Wingert’s axes. He’s got three of them.

Sorry, got off track.

The spring 2017 trip was weird. Everyone up in Edinburgh wanted to know “What the hell happened with the election? Why didn’t Hillary win?”

What could I say?

“Russians and rock dumb stupid.”

Night all. See you on the flip side.

Yeah it still stumps me even a year later. It amazes me that so many projected something that Trump never had. There’s a lot of bigoted attitudes in this country that honestly shock me how prevalent they are.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 25, 2017 • 10:18:17pm

Going to bed. I’ll feel better in the morning I’m sure even if Orange Puke tweets something stupid.

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JordanRules  Oct 25, 2017 • 10:21:45pm

re: #88 Anymouse 🌹

I’d bet we’ve already had more incidents involving guns (not in the hands of LEOs) during this current round of activities.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 25, 2017 • 10:29:28pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

You do make true points. I don’t think they’re a majority either but damn there’s this right wing subculture that Trump awoke that scares me. It needs to be defeated. Our Republic must be preserved against the Trumps, Bannons, and Milos of the world.

They’ve always been around. They’ve been emboldened by the likes of Trump and David Duke and Richard Spencer, but they’re also finding out they are quite the minority.

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teleskiguy  Oct 25, 2017 • 10:31:27pm
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JordanRules  Oct 25, 2017 • 10:34:12pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 25, 2017 • 10:38:32pm

re: #93 JordanRules

I’d bet we’ve already had more incidents involving guns (not in the hands of LEOs) during this current round of activities.

I don’t know. A lot of different figures are used to say what the number of people who are killed by guns is: The most-cited figure I can come up with is 33,000 per annum.

That by itself is a horrible statistic compared to other First World countries (and a lot of Third World countries).

Gun manufacturers seem to be approaching the market in some ways that the tobacco industry is. A whole bunch of guns are owned by a small fraction of the population. Most people own none, some like me own one, a few own two or three, and a tiny fraction own an arsenal. The market for guns seems pretty saturated here.

So manufacturers are pushing for things like relaxing restrictions on exports, so they can sell more overseas. (That is where they are similar to tobacco companies.)

As a percentage of the population, the Washington Post reported last year that gun ownership as a percentage of the populace was the lowest in forty years.

They list a number of different surveys in the article, and I would note that some gun owners are paranoid enough they probably wouldn’t answer (or say they own none). That said, the trend line has been steadily down for ownership since the Seventies.

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JordanRules  Oct 25, 2017 • 10:40:53pm

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹

I meant just the protests and related activities.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 25, 2017 • 10:44:24pm

re: #98 JordanRules

I meant just the protests and related activities.

Oh. I can’t really say. Between the open carry wingnuts in Texas and other places, the Talibanjo taking over a wildlife refuge, &c. it’s hard to tell.

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JordanRules  Oct 25, 2017 • 10:47:29pm

re: #99 Anymouse 🌹

Yeah. I could be wrong on that account but I wouldn’t be surprised if I wasn’t.

What we’re watching happen in the media again keeps reminding me that it can indeed happen here.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 25, 2017 • 10:48:24pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 25, 2017 • 10:52:39pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 25, 2017 • 11:07:01pm

Mark Halperin has always been a scumbag.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 25, 2017 • 11:09:07pm
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JordanRules  Oct 25, 2017 • 11:09:57pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 25, 2017 • 11:10:31pm

Wingnut pastor (one of those who did the laying-on of hands over Donald Trump, worshipping their Golden Calf) went on a tear Sunday accusing Hollywood of literally sacrificing children, drinking their blood, and bringing witches to movie sets.

He also resurrected the dipshit “Spirit Cooking” nonsense, applying it to Hollywood.

So when do the witch trials and inquisition start? I guess I’m up against the wall first… .

“They sacrifice children at the highest levels in Hollywood,” Howard-Browne declared. “They drink blood of young kids. This is a fact. That is why the next thing to be exposed will be all the pedophilia that is going to come out of Hollywood and out of Washington, D.C. The human sacrifice and the cannibalism has been going on for years. Some of you say, ‘Oh, they don’t do that.’ It’s worse than what you think. You remember when the whole spirit cooking thing came out? That’s commonplace, ladies and gentlemen. And many of the Hollywood actors that you go see on a screen, what you don’t know [is] they bring a witch, they do a big seance right there on the set and they worship devils and they allow devils to come into them before they take the part of what they’re going to act. It’s a fact what I am telling you.”

(more, and with video at rightwingwatch.org)

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 25, 2017 • 11:16:06pm

bannon’s plan, i think, is to get rid of the discredited, boring corporatist goopers that might lose re election, and replace them
with exciting, fake-anti-corporatist candidates who’ll get the morons to turn out

but his problem is the human capital he has to work with. they rant and rave and scare small children

most gop voters are bland suburbanites who vote republican because “the gop is pro business” and “democrats will raise my taxes”. they’re scared by nutcases and fanatics

still, when barely half of voters bother to come out, results are unpredictable…

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CleverToad  Oct 25, 2017 • 11:23:36pm

re: #81 Amalthea’s Shadow

I LOVE your skiing posts. I don’t ski myself, but I love to watch others do their ballet on the snow. My only kid has her horses in Granby and gets to ski Winter Park a few times a year. She loves Colorado, as well all smart people should.
Thanks to all of you for the very warm welcome!

See, your kid has given you a gilt-edged excuse to visit Grand Lake and RMNP — hop and a skip up the road from Granby. Definitely a smart kid.

Greetings from the flat side of the Divide, southeast Denver Metro. I don’t get to live in the pretty mountains like Teleskiguy, but I can look at ‘em every (clear) day.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 25, 2017 • 11:24:03pm

There is a fight in court over a massive cross in Prince Georges County, Maryland over the state paying for its maintenance with tax money.

Governor Larry Hogan (R) misdirects (because conservatives are good at that) the issue that the state is being sued over (I Amendment rights) with patriotism (atheists aren’t patriots and they’re trying to sue to make displays of patriotism unlawful).

No one is suing over a patriotic display. This is not a patriotic display - the alleged secular nature of this cross (a memorial to WW1) has always been downplayed in favour of religion.

On Facebook Gov. Hogan posted:

Larry Hogan
last Friday

This is outrageous. The Peace Cross was built in 1925 by families in Prince George’s County who joined with the American Legion to honor their fallen from World War I. Marylanders are united in showing respect for our veterans.

I’m a native Prince Georgian and have passed by this memorial thousands of times. I view it as an incredible tribute to those who came before us and made the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom.

The idea that memorializing our soldiers killed in battle on foreign lands to make the world safe for democracy is somehow unconstitutional goes against everything we stand for as Americans. Our administration will fight this unacceptable overreach. Enough is enough.

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Kragar  Oct 25, 2017 • 11:24:23pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 25, 2017 • 11:27:47pm

re: #108 CleverToad

I hacked out an existence on the Front Range for a little over two years. The I-70 traffic to the skiing *drove me nuts.* DROVE ME FUCKIN’ NUTS! I am still amazed that people endure that commute to ski and think it’s *just fuckin’ dandy.*

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 25, 2017 • 11:29:00pm

Foodbabe, a dingbat who runs a food woo Website, has a counter:

scibabe.com

Her tagline is “Come for the science, stay for the dirty jokes.” (Perhaps she hangs out at Wonkette as she is quite -ah- coarse.)

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teleskiguy  Oct 25, 2017 • 11:36:05pm

Amalthea’s Shadow, you said you also joined Twitter. I’m @teleskiguy. Gimme a follow and I’ll follow back. You can also go to your Account Settings at LGF and enter your Twitter handle in your profile to let everyone know. Up to you.

Your daughter has horses in Grand County, CO? How delightful!

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EPR-radar  Oct 25, 2017 • 11:45:55pm

re: #1 goddamnedfrank

Turducken needs three separate ingredients, so for the Trump administration it would end up being something like: corruption, willful stupidity and bigotry.

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Amalthea's Shadow  Oct 25, 2017 • 11:49:44pm

re: #108 CleverToad

Yes, it should have given me the chance to visit her (living in Grand Lake as she does); my SO and I haven’t yet made that trip. We are planning a long roam around The West next year, now that we are retired. Rocky Mountain National Park is on the list of places to go to.

I myself actually live in Central California. I absolutely love Colorado and have been there a half dozen times or so. There is so much more of the state I’d like to see. I’ve really liked the Denver area also. So I consider you lucky for living there.

Now let’s just hope that this screwed up administration doesn’t do something incredibly stupid to the National Park system before The Mr and I can get to traveling!

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EPR-radar  Oct 25, 2017 • 11:51:41pm

re: #61 FormerDirtDart

Fortunately we do not have the kind of ‘free market’ in children that the likes of Murray Rothbard advocated for.

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Amalthea's Shadow  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:01:37am

re: #113 teleskiguy

Thanks teleskiguy. You are the first person to follow me on Twitter. I about jumped out of the chair with the phone notification buzz! It’s a new noise……Oy!
I’m still working my way reading through the LGF rules and tools. I’ll get around to adding more stuff tomorrow. It’s now gotten to be past my bed time, and I’m going to call it a night. So thanks again to everyone! See you all tomorrow.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:09:23am

I’m off to bed for the night. I have calls to Florida to make to get our water system running correctly again.

Catch y’all later. Amalthea’s Shadow and Teleskiguy, keep Colorado safe for me if I have to escape south.

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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:17:43am

re: #118 Anymouse 🌹

Amalthea’s Shadow is in California. Colorado? Well, there’s weed smoking going on, so things will change. Those calls to Florida? Fuck, I hope it’ll result in quicker clean water at your twenty. Good luck!

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JordanRules  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:27:48am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:28:18am

re: #9 Targetpractice

I contend that there is no GOP civil war, at least not one being waged by the likes of Corker and Flake. …They both voted hours after Flake’s speech to screw over millions of Americans to shove millions of dollars into the pockets of the rich elite.

They are the first ones to acknowledge aloud that DT could be a long-term threat to the GOPs grip on power. But yes, they are still voting for Trump’s bills to screw over even those who helped to elect him…

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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:46:00am
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Kragar  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:56:37am
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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:09:20am

This is GOAT level @BadAlbumCovers.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:24:09am

Checked out “The Mist” TV series.

What an utter disappointment.

Unlikable characters, ridiculous backstories, and they gutted the underlying plot to bring in some pseudo-psychological supernatural BS

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:36:25am

re: #123 Kragar

I keep reading that ‘America is the greatest country on Earth’ Can anyone tell me who started this rumour, and whether they were American?

“Great” is subjective, but in terms of economic, military, political and cultural influence, America is still the world’s leading country. But that simply describes its current status and says nothing definitive about any inherent “greatness”.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 26, 2017 • 3:03:42am
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freetoken  Oct 26, 2017 • 3:03:49am

re: #126 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The need to continually ascribe oneself excellencies such as “great” is a sign of deep insecurity.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 26, 2017 • 3:13:09am

Brutal. From The Times, this morning:

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 26, 2017 • 3:29:13am

Hillary Clinton born this day in 1947. Happy birthday!

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The Major  Oct 26, 2017 • 4:19:06am

re: #56 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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The Major  Oct 26, 2017 • 4:21:14am

re: #123 Kragar

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The Major  Oct 26, 2017 • 4:31:44am

re: #116 EPR-radar

And thank the Higher Powers that, at least in the US, we don’t…..

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The Major  Oct 26, 2017 • 4:33:43am

re: #109 Anymouse 🌹

Gov. Hogan can go fuck himself, as far as I’m concerned….

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The Major  Oct 26, 2017 • 4:36:18am

re: #105 JordanRules

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meteor  Oct 26, 2017 • 4:45:02am

re: #130 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Happity birfdeeeee

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The Major  Oct 26, 2017 • 4:54:04am

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 26, 2017 • 5:01:54am

Try the hot chip challenge, and hurl.

mediaite.com

Don’t worry, they don’t show it.

If you are going to spew, spew into this.

Spew2.wmv

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 26, 2017 • 5:10:08am

re: #20 FormerDirtDart

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LOL!! I can’t stop laughing now. That poor dog was sitting beside a sexual predator and didn’t even know it.

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Ghost of the Mare Island Mud Puppy  Oct 26, 2017 • 5:12:44am

re: #44 Amalthea’s Shadow

Welcome to the jungle.

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Weaselone  Oct 26, 2017 • 5:16:34am

It’s hard not to be impressed by our media. Not only will they gleefully take a huge bite out of any shit sandwich fed to them by a Republican, they’ll eagerly take another bite from the same sandwich each time it’s offered. That’s commitment.

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The Major  Oct 26, 2017 • 5:22:11am

re: #141 Weaselone

Sounds like they’re the pig in the quintessential American breakfast of scrambled eggs and bacon (and this analogy has also been used in Agile Method training):

Q: What’s the difference between the chicken and the egg?
A: The chicken is involved, the pig is committed….

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 26, 2017 • 5:25:03am

re: #109 Anymouse 🌹

Sadly, Hogan probably has the support of the majority of Marylanders on this issue. Not my support though. I don’t care how long that cross has been up. It’s on public property and should come down because it represents Christianity at the expense of other religious dogma.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2017 • 5:26:15am

re: #142 The Major

Sounds like they’re the pig in the quintessential American breakfast of scrambled eggs and bacon (and this analogy has also been used in Agile Method training):

Q: What’s the difference between the chicken and the egg?
A: The chicken is involved, the pig is committed….

you mean the difference between bacon and eggs?

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Oct 26, 2017 • 5:26:23am

re: #140 Ghost of the Mare Island Mud Puppy

Welcome to the jungle.

We got Fun and Games…

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The Major  Oct 26, 2017 • 5:27:17am

re: #144 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Something like that, but in essence, yes….

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The Major  Oct 26, 2017 • 5:27:50am

re: #145 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

And a wicked cool meme generator, too!

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Sea Mexican!  Oct 26, 2017 • 5:29:06am

When you lose the National Review

The firm plans to charge Uncle Stupid more than $300 an hour for a subcontracted lineman and $462 an hour for a subcontracted supervisor. (Subcontractors will make up the bulk of its work force, since — let’s repeat — the firm has two full-time employees.) The company will also charge about $400 per worker in per diem food and housing costs. A former Department of Energy official calls the arrangement “odd.”

Indeed.

Of course, it’s full with two side-ism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2017 • 5:31:00am

re: #148 Sea Mexican!

When you lose the National Review

Of course, it’s full with two side-ism.

Hillary sold political favors via the Clinton Foundation, so it is hypocritical to say anything about this fine, free-market arrangement.

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Citizen K  Oct 26, 2017 • 5:33:15am

#NothingMatters

The gaslighting will continue apace, unabated and underreported, until the GOP gets their eternal racist utopia forever and anon. Meanwhile…

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jeffreyw  Oct 26, 2017 • 5:33:21am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Citizen K  Oct 26, 2017 • 5:34:57am

re: #141 Weaselone

It’s hard not to be impressed by our media. Not only will they gleefully take a huge bite out of any shit sandwich fed to them by a Republican, they’ll eagerly take another bite from the same sandwich each time it’s offered. That’s commitment.

Not only that, but when offered a perfectly good and clean ham & cheese sandwich by Democrats, they’ll slap it out of their hands and accuse the Dems of trying to poison them with a shit sandwich.

While the stains from the Republicans’ actual shit sandwich are still around their mouths.

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William Lewis  Oct 26, 2017 • 5:36:57am

re: #109 Anymouse 🌹

I agree that it needs to be on private property and not one penny of public money should be used to maintain it. There are more than enough churches or other religious organizations able to do so.

But I’d rather see the thing be moved and then allow time to reclaim it while spending any money that might have been wasted on maintaining it be spent on Matthew 25 charity.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2017 • 5:38:12am

re: #150 Citizen K

Updated: Sessions takes aim at Obama administration for scrutiny of tea party groups, calls it “abuse of power”

People hate the IRS and are willing to believe any negative claims made about them so it makes them an easy target.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 5:48:14am

re: #127 goddamnedfrank

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Now you see me by he eagerly not only worked for Trump but took a promotion. Those who thought Kelly would be a moderating influence over Trump are wrong.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 5:50:53am

re: #150 Citizen K

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Gah.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 5:56:00am

I have never seen such a twisted desire to punish a losing candidate the way this administration and its allies go after Clinton.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 26, 2017 • 5:57:25am

re: #157 HappyWarrior

I have never seen such a twisted desire to punish a losing candidate the way this administration and its allies go after Clinton.

It’s all a desperate attempt to divert attention away from the malignancy that is Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 5:58:16am

re: #158 wheat-dogg

It’s all a desperate attempt to divert attention away from the malignancy that is Trump.

Yep that’s exactly what it is and what’s more the media is happy to oblige this.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:02:23am

re: #159 HappyWarrior

Yep that’s exactly what it is and what’s more the media is happy to oblige this.

It’s infuriating how easy the media fall for this transparent attempt to smear someone who is no longer in politics. The Clintons, aside from behind the scenes support of their friends and allies, are not going to run for office again. There’s no real point in even giving the GOP the time of day about this latest witch hunt, but the media will argue that, since the GOP said it, it must be covered.

What they could do is set up a comparison of the charges against Clinton and against Trump and allow the readers to weigh the differences, but that would be too easy, I guess.

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Citizen K  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:03:11am

re: #160 wheat-dogg

It’s infuriating how easy the media fall for this transparent attempt to smear someone who is no longer in politics. The Clintons, aside from behind the scenes support of their friends and allies, are not going to run for office again. There’s no real point in even giving the GOP the time of day about this latest witch hunt, but the media will argue that, since the GOP said it, it must be covered.

What they could do is set up a comparison of the charges against Clinton and against Trump and allow the readers to weigh the differences, but that would be too easy, I guess.

Saying the media ‘falls for it’ gives them too much credit. At this rate, it’s complicity, pure and simple. They’re active enablers.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:05:47am

re: #148 Sea Mexican!

I sure wish they had some backup documents for those assertions. I would like to read the bidding proposal.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:07:28am

re: #161 Citizen K

Saying the media ‘falls for it’ gives them too much credit. At this rate, it’s complicity, pure and simple. They’re active enablers.

I agree. There are only a very few journalists willing to buck the trend and pay attention to the political and ethical disaster now in control of the federal government. Journalism has become more a matter of reacting to events — including fabricated ones — rather than of revealing the truth behind the events. The second is harder than the first, and is riskier when dealing with a political party bankrolled by billionaires.

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The Major  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:08:08am
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Weaselone  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:08:20am

re: #161 Citizen K

Winner, winner, sparrow dinner.

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The Major  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:09:22am

re: #163 wheat-dogg

Give that man a cigar!

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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:12:32am

re: #154 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People hate the IRS and are willing to believe any negative claims made about them so it makes them an easy target.

QFT

The reality of course is that the IRS was doing its job under conditions that Congress left them - trying to enforce a law that was already a difficult task because the GOP was crippling its enforcement and administrative oversight capabilities.

With the rush of entities trying to gain nonprofit status, the IRS resorted to a test to see if the entity should get nonprofit status. They keyed off group name, and the GOP turned this into a partisan attack on the IRS, even though all entities were flagged this way, not just tea party groups.

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Ghost of the Mare Island Mud Puppy  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:12:52am
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The Major  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:13:07am

re: #160 wheat-dogg

That’s why I love listening to Steve Sacker on BBC World Service’s HARDTalk - he pulls no punches at all. He recently gave Sen Lindsey Graham a nice grilling, and for the most part, Grahamm was contrite - but when he stated that “Obama separated this country”….

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:15:07am

re: #168 Ghost of the Mare Island Mud Puppy

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Nailed it. Trump’s own words and actions define him.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:16:14am

I’m not shocked at all they’re diverting to Clinton. Clinton distracts their base from the fact they’re doing nothing and are terribly corrupt.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:17:12am

re: #169 The Major

That’s why I love listening to Steve Sacker on BBC World Service’s HARDTalk - he pulls no punches at all. He recently gave Sen Lindsey Graham a nice grilling, and for the most part, Grahamm was contrite - but when he stated that “Obama separated this country”….

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Someone should ask Graham his thoughts on his party lesder’s efforts to knee cap Obama from the beginning.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:19:19am

re: #171 HappyWarrior

I’m not shocked at all they’re diverting to Clinton. Clinton distracts their base from the fact they’re doing nothing and are terribly corrupt.

Rules for the moment-Ignore what the GOP/Trump people say. Simply watch what they do.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:20:36am

re: #173 Unshaken Defiance

Rules for the moment-Ignore what the GOP/Trump people say. Simply watch what they do.

Exactly. Kelly lied about a Congresswoman. Trump continues to tweet attacks on people. These guys suck.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:26:03am

This makes perfect sense, and ruins all those attractive and nutty conspiracy theories.

Lee Harvey Oswald’s little green book shows JFK wasn’t the real target
latimes.com

In the hours after the Kennedy assassination, after Lee Harvey Oswald shot and killed Dallas Police Officer J.D. Tippit and was identified as the president’s assassin, a Secret Service officer named Mike Howard was dispatched to Oswald’s apartment. Howard found a little green address book, and on its 17th page under the heading “I WILL KILL” Oswald listed four men: an FBI agent named James Hosty; a right-wing general, Edwin Walker; and Vice President Richard Nixon. At the top of the list was the governor of Texas, John Connally. Through Connally’s name, Oswald had drawn a dagger, with blood drops dripping downward.

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CleverToad  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:29:00am

re: #115 Amalthea’s Shadow

Yes, it should have given me the chance to visit her (living in Grand Lake as she does); my SO and I haven’t yet made that trip. We are planning a long roam around The West next year, now that we are retired. Rocky Mountain National Park is on the list of places to go to.

I myself actually live in Central California. I absolutely love Colorado and have been there a half dozen times or so. There is so much more of the state I’d like to see. I’ve really liked the Denver area also. So I consider you lucky for living there.

Now let’s just hope that this screwed up administration doesn’t do something incredibly stupid to the National Park system before The Mr and I can get to traveling!

Yes, visit soon and often, with such a grand excuse!

Cross your fingers for the Parks. Latest is the proposal to hike the rates on the most popular parks, with an additional tack-on for summer rates — let’s make sure citizens on a budget can’t afford to visit THEIR public lands. My husband got his old-geezer Parks pass last year for $10; I won’t be 62 till March so I’ll be paying the steeper price. Just waiting for the GOP SOBs to decide that they’re not going to honor those passes for the expensive Parks without some additional fee.

I’d love to live in Grand Lake. Maybe when I win the lottery, and lose my mom — she couldn’t live at altitude any more, sad to say. But she had a good run — she and my aunt swear they’ve been over every pass in Colorado, in 40+ years of rambling, and they tent-camped till they were in their mid-70’s.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:34:17am

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:34:28am

Terrifying home invasion here in the valley. Again, a jewelry company owning family were the victims. These is a class of robber that actively hunts jewelry people for robbery given the high value of our merch. Yikes.

The home invasion occurred around 2 a.m. at 8007 Broadleaf Ave., said an officer at the Los Angeles Police Department’s Mission Division.

There were anywhere from four to seven suspects, armed with rifles, stun guns and handguns involved, according to reports from the scene.

Police said the suspects beat up at least one of the residents inside the home and that person suffered minor injuries. CBS2 reported another resident was shocked with a stun gun and that three residents were taken to hospitals for minor injuries.

dailynews.com

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:38:03am

re: #169 The Major

That’s why I love listening to Steve Sacker on BBC World Service’s HARDTalk - he pulls no punches at all. He recently gave Sen Lindsey Graham a nice grilling, and for the most part, Grahamm was contrite - but when he stated that “Obama separated this country”….

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This is why I listen to the BBC and ignore CNN.

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Citizen K  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:38:14am

You know what I was saying about media complicity?

Yeah….

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The Major  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:40:49am

re: #172 HappyWarrior

Someone should ask Graham his thoughts on his party lesder’s efforts to knee cap Obama from the beginning.

No kidding-especially with Yertle the Turtle saying the GOP’s job was to “Make Obama a one-term President”, showing his (and today’s GOP’s) true racist colors.

When I grew up our Republicans were actually pretty sane (George Romney, Bill Miliken) - but today’s batshit-crazy GOP? Fuhgetaboutit…..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:42:52am

re: #181 The Major

No kidding-especially with Yertle the Turtle saying the GOP’s job was to “Make Obama a one-term President”, showing his (and today’s GOP’s) true racist colors.

When I grew up our Republicans were actually pretty sane (George Romney, Bill Miliken) - but today’s batshit-crazy GOP? Fuhgetaboutit…..

Yes, there were times when I even voted for Republicans in some local and sate elections and was prepared to consider a GOP candidate…but now, just to get nominated by the party, you have to surrender all semblance of reason.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:43:00am

re: #161 Citizen K

Saying the media ‘falls for it’ gives them too much credit. At this rate, it’s complicity, pure and simple. They’re active enablers.

Want to know why the Corporate Controlled Conservative Press kisses GOP ass 24/7? Just ask yourself “Who Owns The Media”!!!!!

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The Major  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:44:28am

Paul Golding is a truly evil person…

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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:48:09am

So, greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

The right wing is still baffling with bullshit about the Steele dossier and claiming that this disproves everything that happens with Trump, and that it’s really Clinton’s fault for all this.

Of course they do. That’s all they ever do. Blame Clinton for something that the GOP initially funded as oppo research, which isn’t illegal unless you’re going to a foreign nation to spy on your political enemies. That’s what Trump and his cronies did.

But let’s go a step further. We’re talking about what we know about Trump and his cronies.

Flynn’s lies, meetings, and getting fired had nothing to do with the dossier. Being an undeclared foreign agent had nothing to do with the dossier.

Manafort under investigation for money laundering and for being an undeclared foreign agent - again, nothing to do with the dossier.

Kushner lying multiple times on his SF-86? That’s not the dossier.
Donny Jr lying about the meetings with Russians. That’s not the dossier.

Trump sacking Yates, Preet Bharara, or James Comey? That’s not the dossier.
Trump engaging in obstruction of justice? That’s not the dossier.
Trump engaging in violations of the Emoluments clause? That’s not the dossier.
Self dealing and nepotism? That’s not the dossier.

The dossier confirms what we’ve known all along. Trump is a reactionary know nothing who is addled and vindictive and thinks he’s all knowing and has a great memory despite reality that shows the exact opposite.

Where the dossier matters in the grand scheme is that everyone fixates on the unconfirmed golden shower story. That’s the least important detail, but it goes to his emotional stand/condition.

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makeitstop  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:49:22am

Couldn’t happen to a bigger asshole.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:49:47am

OK so Marky Mark has his Brenda Lee moment!

Prominent political journalist stenographer Mark Halperin apologized Wednesday night after five women told CNN that Halperin sexually harassed them while he was working at ABC News.

“During this period, I did pursue relationships with women that I worked with, including some junior to me,” Halperin said in a statement to CNN. “I now understand from these accounts that my behavior was inappropriate and caused others pain. For that, I am deeply sorry and I apologize. Under the circumstances, I’m going to take a step back from my day-to-day work while I properly deal with this situation.”

MSNBC told CNN that Halperin will leave his role as an analyst for the network given the allegations.

“We find the story and the allegations very troubling,” MSNBC said in a statement to CNN. “Mark Halperin is leaving his role as a contributor until the questions around his past conduct are fully understood.”

I had to do a slight correction on the TPM article…

talkingpointsmemo.com

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:51:29am

And now, Casey…it’s time for a long distance dedication to Marky Mark!

Brenda Lee - I’m Sorry

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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:57:04am

re: #186 makeitstop

There’s no wow here. There’s no surprise.

Guys in a position of power abuse power all the time.

That he’s gotten booted from the air in less than a few hours after the allegations were made public? That’s news.

The problem though is how long did ABC and other media outlets know of this and still employed him?

But women who spoke to CNN say he also had a dark side not made public until now. The stories of harassment shared with CNN range in nature from propositioning employees for sex to kissing and grabbing one’s breasts against her will. Three of the women who spoke to CNN described Halperin as, without consent, pressing an erection against their bodies while he was clothed. Halperin denies grabbing a woman’s breasts and pressing his genitals against the three women.

Not made public until now, but those at those outlets knew or had reason to know… again, another guy in position of power thinks he can do as he pleases until he’s finally outed as a sex predator, just like Trump, Ailes, O’Reilly, Weinstein and countless others.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:58:30am

I’m going to go out on a limb, given the nature of his behavior, and guess that there were more than five victims of Halperin’s abuse.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:59:44am

re: #120 JordanRules

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Good, take care of what Crony Island Whitefish won’t/can’t.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:05:23am

Greetings from Belize! After 4 days of rain and wind, with members of our group noting “Gee, this almost feels like something tropical blowing through…” (turns out it is!), we woke today to blue skies and calm winds. Snorkeling trip is on like donkey kong! Have a great day everyone!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:08:45am

Folks just wait till you hear the big news from SincLIAR next week when they hire Marky Mark and Bill-0 the KKKlown!

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:11:14am

A thought for a Democratic ad against Roy Moore in Alabama: Moore cares more about his agenda than the Constitution. What’s to stop him from voting to take away your guns if he feels it’s God’s will?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:13:04am

re: #194 Belafon

A thought for a Democratic ad against Roy Moore in Alabama: Moore cares more about his agenda than the Constitution. What’s to stop him from voting to take away your guns if he feels it’s God’s will?

I like that. That’s brilliant in fact.

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Ghost of the Mare Island Mud Puppy  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:13:17am

re: #191 Eventual Carrion

Good, take care of what Crony Island Whitefish won’t/can’t.

Something tells me we will soon have a new Sec. of Interior.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:14:26am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:16:08am

re: #197 Unshaken Defiance

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We have such a childishly stupid person running this country.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:22:08am

re: #194 Belafon

A thought for a Democratic ad against Roy Moore in Alabama: Moore cares more about his agenda than the Constitution. What’s to stop him from voting to take away your guns if he feels it’s God’s will?

or if he says that you are a government moocher or criminal who does not deserve a vote?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:23:23am
Another document said that an unidentified woman who befriended the killer online told investigators that Lanza said adult-child sexual relationships could be “possibly beneficial to both parties.”

FBI documents reveal Newtown shooter Adam Lanza’s pedophilia interest

Sounds like somebody who got fired by Breitbart.

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makeitstop  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:24:19am

Okay, good. Now…when are you bouncing the goddamn Nazis?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:26:02am

re: #200 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

FBI documents reveal Newtown shooter Adam Lanza’s pedophilia interest

Sounds like somebody who got fired by Breitbart.

That pretty much is what Milo said.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:26:14am

re: #201 makeitstop

Okay, good. Now…when are you bouncing the goddamn Nazis?

I think this is an attempt to get ahead of the bill being proposed by Democrats to require Facebook and Twitter to supply who paid them for ads and how much.

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Renaissance_Man  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:29:26am

re: #157 HappyWarrior

I have never seen such a twisted desire to punish a losing candidate the way this administration and its allies go after Clinton.

I have. But not in a first world democracy.

When Hillary, or Obama, or other figures from the Obama administration are charged and imprisoned, and the US media continues to lead the charge against them, I am curious to see how the world carefully tries to rein in a rogue state when that state is also the world’s largest military power.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:30:41am

re: #204 Renaissance_Man

I have. But not in a first world democracy.

When Hillary, or Obama, or other figures from the Obama administration are charged and imprisoned, and the US media continues to lead the charge against them, I am curious to see how the world carefully tries to rein in a rogue state when that state is also the world’s largest military power.

Oh yeah, definitely it happens in dictatorships. It’s just agh so awful. What the hell is wrong with us?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:32:54am
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Belafon  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:34:23am

re: #205 HappyWarrior

Oh yeah, definitely it happens in dictatorships. It’s just agh so awful. What the hell is wrong with us?

1/3 of Republicans would be fine with us turning into a dictatorship. 1/3 of Republicans would just take their money elsewhere. And the remaining 1/3 wouldn’t care as long as abortion is banned.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:34:48am

re: #206 goddamnedfrank

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Rep Jayapal is an immigrant herself so this is a very important issue to her on a personal level. This is very troubling.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:35:13am

re: #207 Belafon

1/3 of Republicans would be fine with us turning into a dictatorship. 1/3 of Republicans would just take their money elsewhere. And the remaining 1/3 wouldn’t care as long as abortion is banned.

They’d take tax cuts forever if they got a theocracy.

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ObserverArt  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:36:29am

re: #160 wheat-dogg

It’s infuriating how easy the media fall for this transparent attempt to smear someone who is no longer in politics. The Clintons, aside from behind the scenes support of their friends and allies, are not going to run for office again. There’s no real point in even giving the GOP the time of day about this latest witch hunt, but the media will argue that, since the GOP said it, it must be covered.

What they could do is set up a comparison of the charges against Clinton and against Trump and allow the readers to weigh the differences, but that would be too easy, I guess.

We have to stop thinking the “media” is going to do the right thing.

They only exists to make money now. Education and keeping people in the know is not their primary goal anymore.

They are now just entertainment and they do what entertainment people do, they give you “stuff” that keeps you engaged. If that is by lying or misleading and yet it brings eyes, clicks and views then they are successful.

We are down to finding those few internet sites, magazines, newspapers and TV shows that still try. But overall, the “media” sucks.

If they can make billions turning this country into The Worst Nation in the World they’d go with it.

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Citizen K  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:36:31am

re: #206 goddamnedfrank

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The Constitution applies to EVERYONE on US soil, not just citizens. How hard is this to figure out?

And as far as I’m aware, the only parts of the Constitution that talk about rights specifically enumerated to citizens only is re:voting, which is generally understood as a privilege for citizens as it is.

But so goddamn many want to pretend that immigration status means you’re essentially a non-person.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:38:17am

The thing is guys they know that these rights apply to non-citizens. In fact, a lot of right wing celebrities are non-American citizens ala Milo.

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Citizen K  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:43:14am

re: #212 HappyWarrior

The thing is guys they know that these rights apply to non-citizens. In fact, a lot of right wing celebrities are non-American citizens ala Milo.

But you’re forgetting one important thing.

Folks like Milo are WHITE. Therefore they get rights.

Folks like Rep. Jayapal aren’t. That automatically makes them lesser people and non-citizens to most folks, regardless of legal status.

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The Major  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:45:03am

re: #186 makeitstop

I think Cmdr. Data speaks for us all here about Halperin getting dealt a boatload of Karma….

“Yes!!!” for Data (ST Generations)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:45:40am

re: #213 Citizen K

But you’re forgetting one important thing.

Folks like Milo are WHITE. Therefore they get rights.

Folks like Rep. Jayapal aren’t. That automatically makes them lesser people and non-citizens to most folks, regardless of legal status.

Oh I know. That is the distinction. And it’s why Gorka who can talk all the shit he wants to on Black Americans whose families have been here longer than him and my own family for that matter.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:48:44am

re: #215 HappyWarrior

Oh I know. That is the distinction. And it’s why Gorka who can talk all the shit he wants to on Black Americans whose families have been here longer than him and my own family for that matter.

“Black Africans” according to Gorka.

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ObserverArt  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:48:50am

re: #186 makeitstop

Couldn’t happen to a bigger asshole.

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No surprise. Halperin is an arrogant jackass that thinks he is the word.

Damn, looks like October is definitely a month for women’s issue awareness…not just breast cancer. The ladies are taking down and exposing a lot of asshole men.

Nice job ladies. You have the power, you are the majority.

Now about that Trump guy…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:50:21am

re: #216 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

“Black Africans” according to Gorka.

IN CHICAGO!

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ObserverArt  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:51:19am

re: #190 Barefoot Grin

I’m going to go out on a limb, given the nature of his behavior, and guess that there were more than five victims of Halperin’s abuse.

I don’t think you need the limb. You can make that statement standing on the ground.

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JordanRules  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:51:42am

Oh geez.

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The Major  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:51:56am

It’s nice to be back here-hopefully I’ll be able to spend more time here in order to keep me distracted from my latest un-wanted gift and causing any more damage….

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:53:18am

re: #220 JordanRules

Oh geez.

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No one calls him the King of China, you uncultured dingus. China’s Communist dictatorship has never been of one man but of party.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:54:09am

I am glad Trump wasn’t around when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. HE’S CALLED PRESIDENT TOO! Man this guy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:55:20am

re: #174 HappyWarrior

Exactly. Kelly lied about a Congresswoman. Trump continues to tweet attacks on people. These guys suck.

Rep. Wilson is staying away from the House of Representatives, as she is getting lynching threats from “economically anxious” conservative voters.

mcclatchydc.com

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The Major  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:56:25am

re: #217 ObserverArt

Damn, looks like October is definitely a month for women’s issue awareness…not just breast cancer. The ladies are taking down and exposing a lot of asshole men.

Nice job ladies. You have the power, you are the majority.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 7:58:55am

How Facebook, Google and Twitter ‘embeds’ helped Trump in 2016 (more at Politico):

Facebook, Twitter and Google played a far deeper role in Donald Trump’s presidential campaign than has previously been disclosed, with company employees taking on the kind of political strategizing that campaigns typically entrust to their own staff or paid consultants, according to a soon-to-be released study.

The peer-reviewed paper, based on more than a dozen interviews with both tech company staffers who worked inside several 2016 presidential campaigns and campaign officials, sheds new light on Silicon Valley’s assistance to Trump before his surprise win last November.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Oct 26, 2017 • 8:00:40am

re: #200 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Nah, Lanza was described as bright.

Safe to say Lanza had needed psychological diagnosis. ASD?

The mother had a Saiga-12, that is hardcore.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Oct 26, 2017 • 8:06:39am

re: #227 Aussie Apocalypse

Nah, Lanza was described as bright.

Rhymes with White.

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ObserverArt  Oct 26, 2017 • 8:07:30am

re: #198 HappyWarrior

We have such a childishly stupid person running this country.

Wish it were just one. We have MANY childishly stupid people running this country and living in this country. We are about as ignorant in this country as we have ever been. We should be embarrassed. But we are not. We are reveling in it.

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The Major  Oct 26, 2017 • 8:08:51am

Holy Motherfucking shit - Ken White’s (@popehat) Twitter data subpoenaed by the DOJ :
techdirt.com

Love him or hate him, this is very troubling - and you can bet Ken White, a former US Prosecutor, is going to go medieval on his former employer and the FBI….

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Dave In Austin  Oct 26, 2017 • 8:15:59am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 8:16:11am

re: #230 The Major

Holy Motherfucking shit - Ken White’s (@popehat) Twitter data subpoenaed by the DOJ :
techdirt.com

Love him or hate him, this is very troubling….

I would guess that since Popehat is a former Assistant US Attorney, he isn’t going to take this lying down.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 8:20:17am

Because we all need a laugh sometimes.

A female BBC weather presenter broke up laughing on the air, because the BBC put up a caption mis-identifying her as a man and as an “ex-offender.” (I assume this caption was intended for a different person the BBC was reporting on or interviewing.)

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Targetpractice  Oct 26, 2017 • 8:20:19am

re: #231 Dave In Austin

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The party of “ZOMG! LOOK AT ALL THE DEBT WE’RE LEAVING TO OUR GRANDKIDS!!!!” is now declaring “Fuck the grandkids, I want a new Mercedes!”

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The Major  Oct 26, 2017 • 8:21:33am

re: #232 Anymouse 🌹

I would guess that since Popehat is a former Assistant US Attorney, he isn’t going to take this lying down.

I think this will be his reaction….
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 8:28:37am
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I cannot.  Oct 26, 2017 • 8:33:08am

This is the most bonkers thread ever.

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2017 • 8:34:21am

re: #234 Targetpractice

The party of “ZOMG! LOOK AT ALL THE DEBT WE’RE LEAVING TO OUR GRANDKIDS!!!!” is now declaring “Fuck the your grandkids, I want a new Mercedes!”

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 26, 2017 • 8:43:10am
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Citizen K  Oct 26, 2017 • 8:47:23am

re: #238 dangerman

Notice how they never care about the other debts they’re leaving their grandkids. A worsened climate, lessened rights, a culture of fear, lowered educational standards, minimized curiosity, and a strain of anti-intellectualism that will leave them stupider and less knowledgeable than the rest of the first world, all for the sake of tax cuts and deficit voodoo that they’ll never benefit from themselves unless they’re already trust fund children.

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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2017 • 8:51:36am

Fuck the GOP. Fuck Trump. GOP Delenda Est:

While everyone on twitter’s busy yacking about the World Series or Joe Giuardi being out as Yankees manager, the GOP just passed the most craven budget in decades.

They’ve basically enabled a massive redistribution of wealth from everyone in the US to the richest of Americans, all by gutting Medicare and Medicaid to the tune of $1.5 trillion over a decade. There’s another $1.5 trillion in new debt added, that isn’t offset anywhere.

What does anyone gain by this? The estate tax gets repealed in the “bargain”.

Trump’s spawn make out like bandits. And the middle class is left holding the bag, and the poor are fucked.

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Citizen K  Oct 26, 2017 • 8:54:20am

re: #241 lawhawk

Fuck the GOP. Fuck Trump. GOP Delenda Est:

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While everyone on twitter’s busy yacking about the World Series or Joe Giuardi being out as Yankees manager, the GOP just passed the most craven budget in decades.

They’ve basically enabled a massive redistribution of wealth from everyone in the US to the richest of Americans, all by gutting Medicare and Medicaid to the tune of $1.5 trillion over a decade. There’s another $1.5 trillion in new debt added, that isn’t offset anywhere.

What does anyone gain by this? The estate tax gets repealed in the “bargain”.

Trump’s spawn make out like bandits. And the middle class is left holding the bag, and the poor are fucked.

The sheer speed of the fall of the republic cannot be overstated.

They’ve managed to upend the entirety of all that worked in the United states in 9 months total.

And we’ll be paying the consequences for it for at least 2 generations at this point.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:01:03am

re: #4 FormerDirtDart

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:11:08am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:11:28am

re: #244 FormerDirtDart

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Things that make you go hmmm.

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Skip Intro  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:11:30am

re: #200 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

FBI documents reveal Newtown shooter Adam Lanza’s pedophilia interest

Sounds like somebody who got fired by Breitbart.

For not sharing?

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:17:01am

re: #245 HappyWarrior

Things that make you go hmmm.

Especially when the Ga Sect of State, who is running for governor in ‘18, has oversight over election activities and is named in the suit.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:17:20am
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MsJ  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:19:07am

re: #186 makeitstop

Couldn’t happen to a bigger asshole.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:20:48am

re: #248 Ace-o-aces

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Note to Sarah Palin, this is the real blood libel not people criticizing you.

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Targetpractice  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:21:01am

re: #244 FormerDirtDart

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So the servers get wiped just after a lawsuit is filed. Where I come from, that counts as “destruction of evidence.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:21:08am

re: #247 FormerDirtDart

Especially when the Ga Sect of State, who is running for governor in ‘18, has oversight over election activities and is named in the suit.

Yep makes you wonder.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:22:08am

re: #244 FormerDirtDart

But her emails.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:22:39am

re: #251 Targetpractice

So the servers get wiped just after a lawsuit is filed. Where I come from, that counts as “destruction of evidence.”

Surely everyone outraged by the Clinton server being wiped will be equally outraged by this.

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:23:16am

re: #250 HappyWarrior

Note to Sarah Palin, this is the real blood libel not people criticizing you.

And not the only blood libel….
Antisemitic Canards.
I’ve lost count on how many of these have had the bogeyman changed from a Jew to something else, but the rest remaining the same…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:25:35am

re: #255 Teukka

And not the only blood libel….
Antisemitic Canards.
I’ve lost count on how many of these have had the bogeyman changed from a Jew to something else, but the rest remaining the same…

Yep it happened in Russia a lot during the Romanov years. My college term paper was on pogroms.

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Targetpractice  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:27:09am

“We’re filing a lawsuit to prove irregularities in the vote!”

“Oh, would you look at that? The servers under our possession were all wiped. Whoops.”

“You knew we were filing a lawsuit! You had a duty to protect that evidence!”

“Sorry, the servers were held by the company who maintains them. How tragic that the evidence you need was conveniently wiped just after you filed suit…”

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:27:43am

re: #240 Citizen K

Notice how they never care about the other debts they’re leaving their grandkids. A worsened climate, lessened rights, a culture of fear, lowered educational standards, minimized curiosity, and a strain of anti-intellectualism that will leave them stupider and less knowledgeable than the rest of the first world, all for the sake of tax cuts and deficit voodoo that they’ll never benefit from themselves unless they’re already trust fund children.

absolutely

the thinking behind all this, like the current round of tax cuts is the same as saying i dont want to pay for insurance now because “i dont need it, im healthy”

short term thinking on long term issues

governments almost by definition cant raise and save money - segregate / escrow it and not touch it for later use - its unheard of

so its always reactionary to events - witness the hurricanes this year. whoda thought building up balances over the last 10 years might have been a good idea instead of blowing up one year’s budget

and its gonna be the same when the things you mentioned come calling and bite the future in the ass

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JordanRules  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:30:44am

Really Tulsi? Hawaii please fix this next election.

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:30:49am

re: #251 Targetpractice

So the servers get wiped just after a lawsuit is filed. Where I come from, that counts as “destruction of evidence.”

wiped server? “What? Like with a cloth or something?”

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:30:58am

re: #44 Amalthea’s Shadow

Welcome aboard!

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MsJ  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:31:43am

re: #230 The Major

Holy Motherfucking shit - Ken White’s (@popehat) Twitter data subpoenaed by the DOJ :
techdirt.com

Love him or hate him, this is very troubling - and you can bet Ken White, a former US Prosecutor, is going to go medieval on his former employer and the FBI….

From the article:

Doesn’t Assistant US Attorney Douglas Gardner, who signed the subpoena, have better things to do with his time, like going after actual criminals, rather than harassing people for tweeting?

If the DOJ wants to harass people for tweeting, I have a potus account to recommend.

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:32:20am

re: #256 HappyWarrior

Yep it happened in Russia a lot during the Romanov years. My college term paper was on pogroms.

Given my country’s mistakes during WWII and the price paid for them, I and many of my generation got taught early on how to recognize the spectre of fascism miles away.

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Targetpractice  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:32:57am

re: #260 dangerman

wiped server? “What? Like with a cloth or something?”

Ha, I wondered if someone would bring that up.

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:33:36am

re: #44 Amalthea’s Shadow

I wanted to pop in to say “Hey all”! Finally got brave enough to register after having lurked for a couple of years. Signed up for Twitter tonight also….we’ll see how THAT goes. I’ll mostly be a lurker, as I’m a bit of a cautious person by nature. I did want to thank all of you for being the best group of commentators I’ve found on the Internet. So, if you’re a beer imbiber I brought along Lagunitas Pils. And I only eat pineapple on my pizza if I’m in the mood (about once a year). So…..carry on. I’ll try to keep up and I’ll try to commit to spreading calmness and sanity in these crazy days we’re living through.

THAT’S how to work a room

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:34:24am

re: #259 JordanRules

Really Tulsi? Hawaii please fix this next election.

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Someone needs to primary her.

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Skip Intro  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:34:27am

A Coordinated Attack on the FBI Has Begun

I’ve been suggesting that what we are witnessing over the last week is a planned and coordinated attempt to discredit the Mueller investigation. It all started last Wednesday when Rep. Devin Nunes forced Fusion GPS (the firm that hired Christopher Steele) to publicly plead the fifth in front of the House Intelligence Committee. That was followed the next day by this tweet from Trump: Workers of firm involved with the discredited and Fake Dossier take the 5th. Who paid for it, Russia, the FBI or the Dems (or all)?

At the time, no one was talking about who paid for the Steele dossier because since last October, we’ve known that it was initially commissioned by Republicans and then taken over by Democrats. This week the Washington Post reported on the Democrats involved, but didn’t name the Republicans. (Your balanced media at work)

In the tweet above, the president basically insinuated that the FBI had colluded with the Russians and the Democrats to produce the dossier, and so I’ve suggested that it is very likely that they will be the next target. Take a look at how that was affirmed when Tucker Carlson interviewed Rep. Nunes (who has reversed his recusal from the Russia investigation) last night.

Their conversation focused completely on the role of the FBI with the Steele dossier, and is loaded with distortions and lies. Carlson even went so far as to ask, “So is there anything more terrifying than the prospect of an armed rogue agency?” Think about that. An interviewer refers to the FBI as “an armed rogue agency” and a member of Congress simply nods in agreement. Apparently the long knives have come out.

washingtonmonthly.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:34:51am

re: #254 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Surely everyone outraged by the Clinton server being wiped will be equally outraged by this.

Surely you jest.

It’s okay if you’re a Republican.

When conservatives have complete power, they move toward totalitarianism. That is the nature of conservatism, regardless of what so-called “thinkers” on the right try to claim.

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nines09  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:35:37am

Thursday. Fuck the GOP.
The GOP guts the least powerful among us and shirks the responsibility of being run by a 2 bit grifting piece of shit. But he serves them, as he dips into the till, and they all grin and plan the next heist to the blank stares of stupid America. But it’s always been hard on that side of the tracks or town or wherever the broken try to hide. It’s an inside job, but you always knew that. You can now get a payday loan for a payday that ain’t never coming and rent that future that went down a long time ago.
I think I need a drink.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:35:42am

re: #263 Teukka

Given my country’s mistakes during WWII and the price paid for them, I and many of my generation got taught early on how to recognize the spectre of fascism miles away.

My nation’s blessing and curse is war has not been in our backyard for much of our history. Europeans like yourself realize the horror of war and yep fascism too.

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JordanRules  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:36:41am

You’re rich and in power, imagine how the rest of us feel you sorry excuse of a SOS!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:37:11am

Tulsi wants to run for President too. TBH she bothers me even more than Sanders.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:40:25am

re: #257 Targetpractice

“We’re filing a lawsuit to prove irregularities in the vote!”

“Oh, would you look at that? The servers under our possession were all wiped. Whoops.”

“You knew we were filing a lawsuit! You had a duty to protect that evidence!”

“Sorry, the servers were held by the company who maintains them. How tragic that the evidence you need was conveniently wiped just after you filed suit…”

I would hope that whomever was filing the lawsuit sent out a litigation hold letter outlining the opposing party’s duties for preserving ESI.

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:42:08am

re: #269 nines09

fwiw

tom waits played a concert in ‘75 or 76 in the stony brook (ny) student union cafeteria
the “opening act” was a comedian - chris rush

as i recall, all the chairs and tables on the carpeted side were just pushed to one side
im thinking it was free though i cant remember for sure

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:42:57am

Gabbard has also been praised by Bannon and Richard Spencer. That makes me curious about her.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:46:18am

re: #275 HappyWarrior

Gabbard has also been praised by Bannon and Richard Spencer. That makes me curious about her.

Gabbard also supports Hindu nationalists in India. She appears to be a conservative who registered as a Democrat.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:48:25am

re: #276 Anymouse 🌹

Gabbard also supports Hindu nationalists in India. She appears to be a conservative who registered as a Democrat.

She had a very homophobic record for a long time as a Hawaii legislator too. I don’t trust her. Her switch from Clinton to Sanders in the primary, her shitting on Obama’s FP, and her praise from Alt-Right assholes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:49:26am
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JordanRules  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:50:12am

re: #277 HappyWarrior

Support of Assad too!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:51:06am

re: #278 Anymouse 🌹

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To be fair, the actual headline is: Flight Attendants Train to Spot Human Trafficking. This woman is a hero though.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:52:00am

re: #279 JordanRules

Support of Assad too!

Yep. What the fuck is wrong with her? Seriously Hawaii Dems. Find someone to run against her. And honestly she’s another reason why I am glad Bernie wasn’t nominated because I’m sure Bernie would have had her as VP or a key FP adviser.

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JordanRules  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:52:28am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:52:41am

re: #241 lawhawk

Fuck the GOP. Fuck Trump. GOP Delenda Est:

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While everyone on twitter’s busy yacking about the World Series or Joe Giuardi being out as Yankees manager, the GOP just passed the most craven budget in decades.

They’ve basically enabled a massive redistribution of wealth from everyone in the US to the richest of Americans, all by gutting Medicare and Medicaid to the tune of $1.5 trillion over a decade. There’s another $1.5 trillion in new debt added, that isn’t offset anywhere.

What does anyone gain by this? The estate tax gets repealed in the “bargain”.

Trump’s spawn make out like bandits. And the middle class is left holding the bag, and the poor are fucked.

Did not know this. (getting my sports news on LGF).
I like Joe. Sorry to see him leave. One win away from being in world series. Sucks, but not as bad as Trump.

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Skip Intro  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:55:31am
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nines09  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:55:35am

re: #274 dangerman

I doubt I will ever see him perform live. The man is a national treasure. I will sometimes get lost in his lyrics, as he can paint a picture with words. He’s played every dive from here to “how do I get out of here.” He’s a genius and a poet and a voice that I fear will soon pass. His writing is immense. His talent unmatched.
He’s played everywhere forever.

I’m getting the November blues.
Here’s another Waits gem spoken by another giant John Hammond.

John Hammond - Shore Leave

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:55:39am

huffingtonpost.com

Ronald Reagan’s son sees Donald Trump as a threat to the Republic and says he should be removed.

(Never mind that Ronald Reagan helped put us on this crazy train, and today’s GOP isn’t even close to Reagan any more.)

The son of former President Ronald Reagan is calling on lawmakers to remove President Donald Trump from office either via impeachment or by taking action under the 25th Amendment.

“Donald Trump is a deeply damaged human being. He is a sociopathic, malignant narcissist,” Ron Reagan told Chris Matthews on MSNBC’s “Hardball” on Wednesday.

Reagan ― a liberal commentator for the cable network and a frequent critic of the president ― blamed the electoral system rather than the voters for Trump taking office.

“The Electoral College has sort of vomited this thing up and it landed in the Oval Office, and it needs to be removed. It’s a stain. It’s a big glob on the carpet there. It needs to be removed. And that means impeachment or the 25th Amendment,” Reagan said. “This man is a danger to the world.”

(more)

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MsJ  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:57:13am

re: #286 Anymouse 🌹

huffingtonpost.com

Ronald Reagan’s son sees Donald Trump as a threat to the Republic and says he should be removed.

(Never mind that Ronald Reagan helped put us on this crazy train, and today’s GOP isn’t even close to Reagan any more.)

(more)

They won’t pay any attention to Ron Reagan. Michael, perhaps (unlikely) but Ron? Nope. Never.

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Targetpractice  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:57:40am

re: #267 Skip Intro

A Coordinated Attack on the FBI Has Begun

washingtonmonthly.com

The wingnut press can’t quite yet decide whether they want to accuse the FBI of being too stupid to recognize a Russian psy-op or that they actively participated in one to get Hillary Clinton elected to the presidency. But they’re generally agreed that this totally discredits Mueller’s investigation and the DOJ has a duty to fire him, end the “witch hunt,” and commence the years-long investigations into the evils of the “Clinton Crime Family.”

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nines09  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:58:57am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:00:56am

I’m out to the village hall to order a couple chlorine pumps … back in a bit you poor devils.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:02:18am

re: #288 Targetpractice

The wingnut press can’t quite yet decide whether they want to accuse the FBI of being too stupid to recognize a Russian psy-op or that they actively participated in one to get Hillary Clinton elected to the presidency.

Mueller is going to present some evidence that the GOP cannot just brush off or ignore as they have with every other incident of conflict of interest, collusion or interfering with an ongoing investigation.

The only option they have would be to discredit the source of the allegations.

And if that fails then just start a war somewhere.

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:03:44am

re: #290 Anymouse 🌹

I’m out to the village hall to order a couple chlorine pumps … back in a bit you poor devils.

“don’t drink the water and don’t breathe the air”

YouTube

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Targetpractice  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:05:13am

re: #291 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Mueller is going to present some evidence that the GOP cannot just brush off or ignore as they have with every other incident of conflict of interest, collusion or interfering with an ongoing investigation.

The only option they have would be to discredit the source of the allegations.

And if that fails then just start a war somewhere.

Right, at this point the evidence has grown so conclusive that there was some level of collusion between the Russian gov’t and the Trump campaign (directly or indirectly) that the GOP knows Mueller’s final report will be impossible to just drop down a bottomless pit.

So the only option at this point is to destroy Mueller’s credibility before he ever issues that report, with the possible hope of creating just enough of a cover for Trump firing him.

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Interesting Times  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:05:46am

re: #286 Anymouse 🌹

huffingtonpost.com

“Donald Trump is a deeply damaged human being. He is a sociopathic, malignant narcissist,” Ron Reagan told Chris Matthews on MSNBC’s “Hardball” on Wednesday.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:06:59am

re: #294 Interesting Times

It’s even funnier coming from a guy named Ron Reagan…

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MsJ  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:08:07am

re: #293 Targetpractice

Right, at this point the evidence has grown so conclusive that there was some level of collusion between the Russian gov’t and the Trump campaign (directly or indirectly) that the GOP knows Mueller’s final report will be impossible to just drop down a bottomless pit.

So the only option at this point is to destroy Mueller’s credibility before he ever issues that report, with the possible hope of creating just enough of a cover for Trump firing him.

I am starting to think that there are going to be a bunch of Republican’s caught up in this mess and that’s why some of this is happening. Trump and his crooked crew is one thing. But if we start to see other GOPers getting caught up, we’ll see an all out protectionistic response from all GOPers.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:08:47am

re: #116 EPR-radar

Fortunately we do not have the kind of ‘free market’ in children that the likes of Murray Rothbard advocated for.

I still remember Econ professors in College who were Rothbard disciples even going as far as calling for a repeal of the 13th Amendment because people should have the “freedom” to become slaves…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:09:42am

re: #297 Joe Bacon 🌹

I still remember Econ professors in College who were Rothbard disciples even going as far as calling for a repeal of the 13th Amendment because people should have the “freedom” to become slaves…

That is the principle behind Right to Work legislation.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:10:32am

re: #248 Ace-o-aces

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So when will that asshole say that we ran the slave trade as well…

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Targetpractice  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:12:18am

re: #296 MsJ

I am starting to think that there are going to be a bunch of Republican’s caught up in this mess and that’s why some of this is happening. Trump and his crooked crew is one thing. But if we start to see other GOPers getting caught up, we’ll see an all out protectionistic response from all GOPers.

I suspect that the big worry among the GOP leadership is that even if the indictments are limited to Trump and his cronies, the same report will condemn the party for knowing or strongly believing that Trump was engaged in illegal efforts to undermine the Clinton campaign and did nothing to address it. That they were so desperate to push him across the finish line that they turned a blind eye to illegal acts on the argument that winning was the only thing that mattered.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:16:29am
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MsJ  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:17:33am

re: #300 Targetpractice

I suspect that the big worry among the GOP leadership is that even if the indictments are limited to Trump and his cronies, the same report will condemn the party for knowing or strongly believing that Trump was engaged in illegal efforts to undermine the Clinton campaign and did nothing to address it. That they were so desperate to push him across the finish line that they turned a blind eye to illegal acts on the argument that winning was the only thing that mattered.

That, also, too.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:18:20am

re: #301 Ace-o-aces

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I’m reminded of Cartman pretending to be trans ehre.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:18:41am

re: #207 Belafon

1/3 of Republicans would be fine with us turning into a dictatorship. 1/3 of Republicans would just take their money elsewhere. And the remaining 1/3 wouldn’t care as long as abortion is banned.

On a rightwing board I frequent, there was overwhelming support for censoring “fake news.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:18:43am

re: #300 Targetpractice

I suspect that the big worry among the GOP leadership is that even if the indictments are limited to Trump and his cronies, the same report will condemn the party for knowing or strongly believing that Trump was engaged in illegal efforts to undermine the Clinton campaign and did nothing to address it. That they were so desperate to push him across the finish line that they turned a blind eye to illegal acts on the argument that winning was the only thing that mattered.

In short, they were a bunch of DFs who placed their party’s success above the nation’s interests.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:19:11am

re: #304 Big Beautiful Door

On a rightwing board I frequent, there was overwhelming support for censoring “fake news.”

And yet at the same time they shriek if you think bringing back the Fairness Doctrine is a good idea.

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:20:06am

re: #300 Targetpractice

I suspect that the big worry among the GOP leadership is that even if the indictments are limited to Trump and his cronies, the same report will condemn the party for knowing or strongly believing that Trump was engaged in illegal efforts to undermine the Clinton campaign and did nothing to address it. That they were so desperate to push him across the finish line that they turned a blind eye to illegal acts on the argument that winning was the only thing that mattered.

winner

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:22:02am

“… The College of the Ozarks, a private, Christian college near Branson, Missouri, … said it’s designed to encourage students’ understanding of America’s heritage, the nation’s civic responsibilities, love of country and willingness to defend it. …”

“… The four-credit hour course involves more than just reading about America’s values or learning basic flag protocol. It also teaches military skills like pistol and rifle markmanship, map reading and land navigation — even Army rappelling techniques. …”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:22:48am

re: #308 FormerDirtDart

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It’s a private university so really not much can be done about this but still what in the fuck.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:25:10am

re: #308 FormerDirtDart

Sounds like the ROTC group I joined for one semester when I was in college.

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MsJ  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:26:10am

re: #308 FormerDirtDart

That’s so incredibly creepy it defies comprehension. Christian Taliban for sure. I am sure they are perfectly fine with pussy grabbing. I wonder how they felt during the black democrat’s time in office.

JFC on a cracker.

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William Lewis  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:26:55am

re: #309 HappyWarrior

It’s a private university so really not much can be done about this but still what in the fuck.

What we can do is point, laugh ad in general ridicule the for thier fantasy of whatever it is that they think is both patriotism and Christianity.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:27:44am

re: #311 MsJ

That’s so incredibly creepy it defies comprehension. Christian Taliban for sure. I am sure they are perfectly fine with pussy grabbing. I wonder how they felt during the black democrat’s time in office.

JFC on a cracker.

I just imagine Obama giving Trump’s speeches, using his rhetoric, and having the kind of personal background that Trump did and seeing the RR’s right. Yeah, I’m sure the RR would have just loved a black Democrat with five kids by three women who talked about grabbing women by the pussy. They’re moral hypocrites. Then again, they’ve always been.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:28:03am

re: #312 William Lewis

What we can do is point, laugh ad in general ridicule the for thier fantasy of whatever it is that they think is both patriotism and Christianity.

True, meant legally speaking.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:29:09am

re: #237 I cannot.

This is the most bonkers thread ever.

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LOVED IT!

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:30:15am

re: #239 FormerDirtDart

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Is Bernie really as tiny as he looks in this photo?

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JordanRules  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:30:48am
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:32:21am

re: #242 Citizen K

The sheer speed of the fall of the republic cannot be overstated.

They’ve managed to upend the entirety of all that worked in the United states in 9 months total.

And we’ll be paying the consequences for it for at least 2 generations at this point.

Reminder, the tax cuts and budget cuts haven’t passed yet. We can still fight this and stop it like we stopped “repeal and not replace.”

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makeitstop  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:34:06am

re: #318 Big Beautiful Door

Reminder, the tax cuts and budget cuts haven’t passed yet. We can still fight this and stop it like we stopped “repeal and not replace.”

Thank you.

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danarchy  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:34:30am

re: #316 Big Beautiful Door

Is Bernie really as tiny as he looks in this photo?

I think there may be a little forced perspective going on there, because Bernie is apparently 6’ tall.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:34:32am

Asshole Tucker Carlson saying hero Jesus Campos was the real shooter in the Las Vegas massacre. What a douchbag.
salon.com

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:39:15am

re: #321 DodgerFan1988

Asshole Tucker Carlson saying hero Jesus Campos was the real shooter in the Las Vegas massacre. What a douchbag.
salon.com

Jesus Christ, what a dirt bag. FNC really is no different than InfoWars.

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Skip Intro  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:40:01am

Key Google Searches Only Showed Republican Candidate In Montana House Special Election

And the glitch wasn’t easy to fix, the Democrat’s campaign discovered.

I am SO surprised.

huffingtonpost.com

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Targetpractice  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:40:20am

Thought, after further contemplation, I believe the bigger worry among the GOP leadership is where Mueller’s obstruction of justice investigation will lead. Because they might have been able to plead ignorance, possibly even salvage Mike Pence’s political future by placing all the blame for the Russian collusion on the Trumps. But it looks more and more like the White House inner circle were in up to their eyeballs in an effort to cover-up those illegal acts. Worse, members of Congress (both serving and since joined the administration) were involved in the cover-up as well, whether as active collaborators or as bagmen for such. Their worst nightmare is Mueller’s report laying out a list of indictments that effectively hollows out the White House and names prominent members of the party.

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:40:38am

re: #311 MsJ

That’s so incredibly creepy it defies comprehension. Christian Taliban for sure. I am sure they are perfectly fine with pussy grabbing. I wonder how they felt during the black democrat’s time in office.

JFC on a cracker.

well on a cheese grater anyway

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:41:47am

re: #298 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is the principle behind Right to Work legislation.

Which SCOTUS is likely to soon make into a constitutional right.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:43:42am

The Right Wing Attack Machine going after Vegas hero Jesus Campos.
Just when you thought they can’t get any lower.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:46:42am

re: #327 DodgerFan1988

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:49:08am

re: #327 DodgerFan1988

The Right Wing Attack Machine going after Vegas hero Jesus Campos.
Just when you thought they can’t get any lower.

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Like clockwork :(.

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JordanRules  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:49:18am
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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:51:12am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:51:49am

re: #317 JordanRules

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I see the Russian Bots and the Trumpettes are out in force attacking Hillary again…

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:52:12am

re: #329 HappyWarrior

Type Jesus Campos in Twitter search and you’ll find thousands of hate tweets by conservatives. Where was all this anger at Stephen Paddock from right wingers?

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JordanRules  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:53:49am

re: #332 Joe Bacon 🌹

Tomorrow is probably pay day! Bot and paid for.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:56:24am

re: #333 DodgerFan1988

Type Jesus Campos in Twitter search and you’ll find thousands of hate tweets by conservatives. Where was all this anger at Stephen Paddock from right wingers?

Remember when FNC was looking for a reason why we should hate him. I guess committing the deadly mass shooting in U.S. history wasn’t good enough. FNC really is a racist network. They’re not even hiding it anymore. Man, I feel awful for Mr. Campos. This is so sick.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:56:59am

re: #330 JordanRules

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You know what’s funny is I never hear Lumpy’s name come off as a sexual harasser at FNC. Maybe he’s got some other demons lurking.

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Targetpractice  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:57:58am

Quick, guess who’s decided his “recusal” is now subject to his personal whims. If you guessed “Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III,” please step forward to collect your winnings:

So when he said he was recused from anything having to do with the Russian investigation, all of those of us who reflexively screamed “BULLSHIT!” were absolutely right.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:58:53am

re: #337 Targetpractice

Quick, guess who’s decided his “recusal” is now subject to his personal whims. If you guessed “Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III,” please step forward to collect your winnings:

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So when he said he was recused from anything having to do with the Russian investigation, all of those of us who reflexively screamed “BULLSHIT!” were absolutely right.

Worst AG ever.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:59:58am

re: #333 DodgerFan1988

Type Jesus Campos in Twitter search and you’ll find thousands of hate tweets by conservatives. Where was all this anger at Stephen Paddock from right wingers?

The top link when you google his name is from the nypost.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:00:31am

re: #339 Belafon

The top link when you google his name is from the nypost.

Agh.

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Alephnaught  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:00:40am

re: #197 Unshaken Defiance

[trump]…Corker dropped out of the race in Tennesse when I refused to endorse him […] [/trump]

“Anyone for Tennesse?”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:02:13am

When does FNC start looking for dirt on La David Johnson?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:02:21am

re: #341 Alephnaught

“Anyone for Tennesse?”

Gay Tennesse?

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:03:24am

re: #327 DodgerFan1988

The Right Wing Attack Machine going after Vegas hero Jesus Campos.
Just when you thought they can’t get any lower.

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They attacked the grieving parents of children killed at Sandy Hook. The depths they will sink to is a bottomless pit.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:04:00am

re: #344 Big Beautiful Door

They attacked the grieving parents of children killed at Sandy Hook. The depths they will sink to is a bottomless pit.

Yep sigh. I hate how cruel people are.

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JordanRules  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:04:35am

re: #336 HappyWarrior

Yeah, Yashar who has lots of access (unfortunately it shows in gross ways) and loves to watch FNC has said a couple times that the word on the FNC streets is that he’s very decent to work with and doesn’t have those type of issues.

He’s still an awful person and yeah, like you said, he probably has his own demons feeding his hateful, deceptive, evil psyche.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:05:32am

jeebus

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:07:14am

I had no idea that the yam’s ancestors were Confederates…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:08:39am
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petesh  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:09:00am

re: #338 HappyWarrior

Worst AG ever.

I’m not enough of a historian to give a definitive answer but remember John Mitchell? He actually did jail time.

Overall, however, I have a strong feeling that the current Cabinet stacks up (or should I say down) with the absolute worst ever; give them another six months and the title should be theirs.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:09:35am

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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You know nothing about my state dotard.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:09:38am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:09:49am

re: #350 petesh

I’m not enough of a historian to give a definitive answer but remember John Mitchell? He actually did jail time.

Overall, however, I have a strong feeling that the current Cabinet stacks up (or should I say down) with the absolute worst ever; give them another six months and the title should be theirs.

Ah good point.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:09:57am

I love pretzels.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:10:29am

re: #346 JordanRules

Yeah, Yashar who has lots of access (unfortunately it shows in gross ways) and loves to watch FNC has said a couple times that the word on the FNC streets is that he’s very decent to work with and doesn’t have those type of issues.

He’s still an awful person and yeah, like you said, he probably has his own demons feeding his hateful, deceptive, evil psyche.

Yeah.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:11:21am

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s from Jersey ffs. Northam is actually someone with CSA ancestors who understands how ugly that flag is.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:11:39am

May Trump hurt Gillespie’s chances.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:12:02am

Gillespie is nothing but a panderer.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:13:13am
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Interesting Times  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:14:07am

re: #357 HappyWarrior

May Trump hurt Gillespie’s chances.

How many mouth-breathing confederates have you got in the state, and how energized/motivated are they?

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:17:10am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:17:51am

re: #360 Interesting Times

How many mouth-breathing confederates have you got in the state, and how energized/motivated are they?

In my region not as much but downstate they’re why the Dimwit from Duluth (Stewart) nearly beat Gillespie. Both Dem candidates were native Virginias interestingly enough.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:20:39am
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Kragar  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:23:26am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:28:52am

I’m back. Wow I’m gone for an hour and FOX is taking the right-wing fever swamp conspiracy theory and mainlining it right into their viewers. First Rep. Wilson is hiding from people calling to lynch her, now Mr. Campos is probably going to get the same sort of threats.

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scottslemmons  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:29:28am

re: #327 DodgerFan1988

The Right Wing Attack Machine going after Vegas hero Jesus Campos.
Just when you thought they can’t get any lower.

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I don’t even understand this. Are they trying to valorize the white guy and demonize a random Latino? Do they think they can make people give up on gun control by saying someone else shot 600 people? Are they just that addicted to conspiracies?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:30:51am

re: #366 scottslemmons

I don’t even understand this. Are they trying to valorize the white guy and demonize a random Latino? Do they think they can make people give up on gun control by saying someone else shot 600 people? Are they just that addicted to conspiracies?

They’re addicted to racism.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:32:15am

re: #366 scottslemmons

I don’t even understand this. Are they trying to valorize the white guy and demonize a random Latino? Do they think they can make people give up on gun control by saying someone else shot 600 people? Are they just that addicted to conspiracies?

Yes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:33:27am

It’s not about the economy for conservatives of course and never has been. It is about personal enrichment.

Arguments about “what about your children?” I assure you their children will be fine.

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ObserverArt  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:37:45am

re: #295 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s even funnier coming from a guy named Ron Reagan…

Ron is not his father’s son. He fell far from the tree.

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retired cynic  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:38:03am

NPR is really hitting the FEC changes and the Sinclair partisan consolidation hard right now. Interviewing David Folkenflik on Here and Now.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:38:15am

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

Projection.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:39:01am

Golf grifter says what?

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:39:29am

Cheebus
“THE LIKES OF WHICH THE WORLD HAS NEVER SEEN!!11111” is a favorite one-size-fits-all Trumpism.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:40:41am

Worst drug crisis in world history? Can we quit focusing on cannabis now?

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:41:04am
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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:43:23am

re: #374 The Vicious Babushka

Cheebus
“THE LIKES OF WHICH THE WORLD HAS NEVER SEEN!!11111” is a favorite one-size-fits-all Trumpism.

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He is such a lazy/bad bullshitter. The first rule of being a good bullshitter is knowing just enough about whatever it is you’re talking about. But for whatever reason, he can’t/doesn’t do that, so it’s always “it will be amazing, it will be beautiful, everyone is going to love it, it’s bigger than anyone has ever seen, we’ve never dealt with this kind of thing before but we are doing a fantastic job.” There is nothing worse than a bad bullshitter (except maybe a true believer in said bullshit)

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:43:44am

Kris Kobach LITERALLY Copy-Pasting Your Uncle’s ‘Illeagalz’ Chain Emails (goes to Wonkette) more at the link:

Donald Trump’s completely objective Fraudulent Voter Commission co-chair Kris Kobach has excreted another of his regular columns for Dead Breitbart’s Home For Terrified Old Whites, this time making all sorts of bullshit claims about how Illegal Alien Crimers are an imminent threat to YOU, the average terrified reader of Breitbart. Oh, sure, he’s used as his “sources” a load of pure-bullshit phony statistics culled from wingnut chain emails that have circulated for years, as Media Matters documents in some detail, and at least one of his sources is an out and out Holocaust-denyin’ white nationalist, but why quibble about “facts” when you have a whole Internet to plunder for any “evidence” you might want to use? Also, that bit about the Nazi dude is pretty racist, isn’t it?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:44:29am

re: #373 Anymouse 🌹

Golf grifter says what?

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Boom. Go Ralph.

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:46:03am

re: #376 FormerDirtDart

This might come as a shock to the distinguished gentleman from California (well, Fresno, but whatever)… but the way “unverified information” becomes “verified information” is through this process known as “investigations.”

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bratwurst  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:47:13am

Even for a man famous for empty rhetoric, this is an embarrassingly awful speech.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:47:33am
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Kragar  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:47:55am
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Kragar  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:50:06am
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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:50:17am

re: #382 FormerDirtDart

bought property for $2m, sold it three years later for $10m, appraisals say property value didn’t really change in the three years. Yeah, that doesn’t seem fishy at all. Nope, just an honest real estate transaction, right there.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:50:54am
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jaunte  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:52:39am
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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:52:44am

re: #386 Kragar

As long as insurance companies see more profit in paying for pain killers than in paying for physical therapy, you’re not going to stop people who need the drugs from taking the drugs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:54:38am

re: #386 Kragar

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He is absolutely clueless about how opioid addiction starts.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:55:41am

re: #389 Backwoods_Sleuth

If he ever had a pain, he would just get a doctor’s note to excuse him from the war.

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ObserverArt  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:58:14am

re: #311 MsJ

That’s so incredibly creepy it defies comprehension. Christian Taliban for sure. I am sure they are perfectly fine with pussy grabbing. I wonder how they felt during the black democrat’s time in office.

JFC on a cracker.

Onward Christian Soldiers…

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:58:16am

In response to some repeated questions on my thread about how the leadership of the Democratic party is steering us towards an ugly defeat in 2018, and another term of Trump …

re: #6 jhncsy

Unfortunately, yes, Third Way has a great deal of influence, as they shape the thinking of the Donor Class for the Democratic Party. Policy flows where the money goes.

If the donors are convinced that there is no real problem with their underlying assumptions that Americans, given a chance, will choose their tepid wishywashy solutions, they will continue to fund candidates who have these as their policy speeches.

And voters will continue to pull the handle for anyone who sounds different, even if that person is batshit cray-cray.

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JordanRules  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:58:50am

Savvy where?

He’s too powerful to be this naive.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:59:35am
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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:59:39am

re: #388 KGxvi

Also, to clarify, there’s absolutely a case to be made for using pain killers as a part of the recovery process. But they can’t be the main focus of a treatment plan.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:01:47pm
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dangerman  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:02:30pm

re: #393 JordanRules

Savvy where?

“American citizens are pretty savvy … I don’t think they’d be influenced by ads posted by foreign governments.”

He’s too powerful to be this naive.

1 - how would anyone know by looking at an ad who “posted” (purchased?) it
2 - is “savvy” appropriate speech?

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:02:36pm

My wife’s ex was wounded in Vietnam, carrying wounded to safety. He had to lie in a field for hours waiting for evac. Got addicted to pain meds, and more, got involved with the Memphis mafia, dealt drugs, did more, beat on wife, held a gun to her head more than once.

Died.

But all you need to avoid drug problems is some ads.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:02:48pm

re: #393 JordanRules

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:02:51pm

re: #393 JordanRules

Savvy where?

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He’s too powerful to be this naive.

and

3 - he’s too naive to be this powerful

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:03:46pm
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dangerman  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:03:56pm

re: #398 jaunte

My wife’s ex was wounded in Vietnam, carrying wounded to safety. He had to lie in a field for hours waiting for evac. Got addicted to pain meds, and more, got involved with the Memphis mafia, dealt drugs, did more, beat on wife, held a gun to her head more than once.

Died.

But all you need to avoid drug problems is some ads.

and will power!

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:04:19pm

re: #402 dangerman

Two slices of pie!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:04:45pm

re: #396 Backwoods_Sleuth

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JFC:

Rosa Maria Hernandez, brought illegally into the United States at three months of age by her mother, was taken to Driscoll Children’s Hospital in Corpus Christi, Texas, by her cousin. En route to the hospital, they were stopped at a Customs and Border Patrol checkpoint. Immigration agents then proceeded to follow the two to the hospital and remained there throughout the night.

Once she was discharged, Rosa Maria, who suffers from cerebral palsy, was escorted via ambulance to the Bexar County Juvenile Detention Center in San Antonio, Texas, by officers with Customs and Border Protection.

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JordanRules  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:04:48pm

Arrested development for sure. Lots of his language, references and associations are just so dated.

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:05:21pm

re: #399 Kragar

“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” - George Carlin

danger’s 2017 corollary - and yes i know how the math works

more than half of them are stupider

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:05:37pm

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:06:37pm

re: #396 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:07:41pm

re: #386 Kragar

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Not to in any way appear to be defending Trump, but it looks like the FDA is actually doing something right in the area of treating opioid addiction. Trump probably doesn’t know.
vox.com

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:10:18pm

re: #405 JordanRules

Well he’s not totally wrong on this. Fentinil (an opioid painkiller) can be bought and shipped from China.

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I cannot.  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:10:47pm

re: #394 FormerDirtDart

States can shift federal funds from HIV/AIDS: Resources available to programs aimed at HIV/AIDS care will also be accessible to opioid misuse.

Yeah, this is going to turn to shit.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:11:26pm

I can seem to keep up with current threads… just saw this. You’re very welcome of course!
re: #237 wrenchwench

I just want to thank Jebediah, RBG for generously updinging comments of mine that nobody else would. (Seems to spread that generosity around to all the lizards, dinged and undinged. But wait! he’s being out dinged now by majii!)

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MsJ  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:11:58pm

re: #374 The Vicious Babushka

Cheebus
“THE LIKES OF WHICH THE WORLD HAS NEVER SEEN!!11111” is a favorite one-size-fits-all Trumpism.

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Yet he’s not allowing any extra funding for this massive problem THE LIKES OF WHICH THE WORLD HAS NEVER SEEN.

Grrrr.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:12:16pm

re: #396 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Unimaginable cruelty. The deplorables will laugh at the story and cheer for this child’s deportation to a country she has never known.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:13:16pm

re: #413 MsJ

Yet he’s not allowing any extra funding for this massive problem THE LIKES OF WHICH THE WORLD HAS NEVER SEEN.

Grrrr.

Someone should get him to offer thoughts and prayers.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:13:51pm

re: #414 Big Beautiful Door

Unimaginable cruelty. The deplorables will laugh at the story and cheer for this child’s deportation to a country she has never known.

Like I said yesterday, a purge is needed at ICE.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:14:09pm

Letter | Gosar Siblings Do Not Support Rep. Paul Gosar’s Statements on George Soros (Goes to the Kingman, Ariz. Daily Miner), more at the link.

An op-ed penned by seven of Rep. Gosar’s siblings disavow his statements about George Soros funding the havoc in Charlottesville, Va.

We watched the interview of Paul Gosar on Vice News and believe Paul owes George Soros a personal apology.

This is a matter of right and wrong, not politics. We are aghast that Paul has sunk so low that he now spews the most despicable slander against an 87-year-old man without a shred of proof, and then doesn’t even have the guts or decency to apologize?

Our parents are 87 and 83 and we would be outraged if some sleaze did to them what Paul shamelessly did to Mr. Soros. First, Paul confabulated horrendous lies about Soros as a young boy who survived the Holocaust, and followed it with invented notions that Soros was behind the Charlottesville Nazis. Paul’s deceit was uttered without a shred of evidence.

Those aren’t our family values or the values of the small Wyoming town we grew up in. Character assassination wasn’t revered. Lies and distortions do reveal much about the character of the congressman of Arizona’s 4th congressional district, however.

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JordanRules  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:15:09pm

re: #410 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

A consideration I would never grant him, because it’s him. I’m willing to be proven wrong though. Had to add that and make sure my 1st sentence didn’t sound too wingnutty. :)

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ObserverArt  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:15:30pm

re: #369 Anymouse 🌹

It’s not about the economy for conservatives of course and never has been. It is about personal enrichment.

Arguments about “what about your children?” I assure you their children will be fine.

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David Stockman has been saying the Republican Trickle Down Theory he sold for St Ronald was bullshit for at least 7 or 8 years now.

Funny. He was the hero architect of it all. A mastermind.

Now that he calls it what it is, they don’t know who he is and even moreso what he is even talking about.

Those rascally Republicans.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:15:57pm

re: #393 JordanRules

Savvy where?

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He’s too powerful to be this naive.

Probably explains why you never see advertising on TV, in newspapers, on billboards, in magazines, pretty much fucking everywhere. Because it is useless.

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ObserverArt  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:17:05pm

re: #374 The Vicious Babushka

Cheebus
“THE LIKES OF WHICH THE WORLD HAS NEVER SEEN!!11111” is a favorite one-size-fits-all Trumpism.

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A play on Nancy’s words.

Just Say No to Trump!

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danarchy  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:17:37pm

re: #410 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Well he’s not totally wrong on this. Fentinil (an opioid painkiller) can be bought and shipped from China.

Yeah the huge jump in opioid deaths are due to fentanyl which often people don’t even know they are taking. Most of the illegal fentanyl in the US originates in China.

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JordanRules  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:19:05pm
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retired cynic  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:20:05pm

re: #407 The Vicious Babushka

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ObserverArt  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:24:39pm

re: #384 Kragar

Kragar @Kragar_LGF
Everyone knows drug dealers can’t use ladders, tunnels, boats, planes, helicopters, etc, to get around a wall


2:45 PM - Oct 26, 2017

Everyone knows that a lot of drugs that come into this country are brought in under watchful eyes by people by with money and power. The stuff that happens at the border walls and on big city street corners is for show to Ma and Pa America.

It is and has always been a big business. And it is treated as a big business.

One of the arguments for decent drug policy is to take the power and money out of it. A lot of crime goes with it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:25:39pm

re: #422 danarchy

Yeah the huge jump in opioid deaths are due to fentanyl which often people don’t even know they are taking. Most of the illegal fentanyl in the US originates in China.

and those deaths are people already addicted. Fentanyl is just the final nail in the coffin.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:28:11pm

re: #423 JordanRules

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Family values. //

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JordanRules  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:30:35pm
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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:30:48pm

re: #425 ObserverArt

Everyone knows that a lot of drugs that come into this country are brought in under watchful eyes by people by with money and power. The stuff that happens at the border walls and on big city street corners is for show to Ma and Pa America.

It is and has always been a big business. And it is treated as a big business.

One of the arguments for decent drug policy is to take the power and money out of it. A lot of crime goes with it.

There’s always going to be money and power in drugs (and alcohol), there always has been. Hell, there’s an argument that the first permanent human settlements developed because man figured out how to make beer. There is, was, and always will be a demand for it and no policy you create will be able to stop that demand. The only thing we can do is smartly regulate the market and make sure that there are treatment options for those who deal with addiction issues.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:32:34pm

re: #399 Kragar

“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” - George Carlin

Now imagine a political system in which the Stupid Half controls a majority of Electoral College votes…

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:34:26pm

I was introduced to Fentanyl on the helicopter ride that I don’t remember. I met the guy who gave it to me. He said his name, then, ‘I’m the guy who gave you the shot that let you forget that day.’ I thanked him. I knew his sister when she raced [bicycles] for the shop I worked at in Washington. She moved down here a few months before I did. We had a mutual ‘What are you doing here?!?!’ moment when I worked at the other bike shop.

It’s good to remember some things. It’s even better to forget others.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:38:05pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:42:02pm

re: #423 JordanRules

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:42:32pm

re: #431 wrenchwench

Tomorrow is the third anniversary of that day. I almost forgot (heh). I have an appointment with my counselor, so I know I will remember. After I had been home about 6 months, everybody started telling me, ‘Oh, yeah. You’ll need counseling.’ It turns out they may have been saying that all along, somehow I just started noticing. It should be cultural knowledge that people need counseling after trauma. It’s getting there.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:43:00pm

re: #430 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Now imagine a political system in which the Stupid Half controls a majority of Electoral College votes…

Well, I can’t say about my whole district, for example, but in my village I am one of only two adults that hasn’t been to college. (The other is my across-the-alley elderly neighbour; she graduated from sixth grade.)

With only eight votes for Hillary Clinton in my town, I’m guessing education wasn’t the problem.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:43:51pm

re: #432 goddamnedfrank

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JordanRules  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:45:50pm

re: #432 goddamnedfrank

That is some premium drivel!

My goodness. It’s so offensive and ridiculous.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:46:15pm

re: #431 wrenchwench

I was introduced to Fentanyl on the helicopter ride that I don’t remember. I met the guy who gave it to me. He said his name, then, ‘I’m the guy who gave you the shot that let you forget that day.’ I thanked him. I knew his sister when she raced [bicycles] for the shop I worked at in Washington. She moved down here a few months before I did. We had a mutual ‘What are you doing here?!?!’ moment when I worked at the other bike shop.

It’s good to remember some things. It’s even better to forget others.

The only times I’ve had Fentanyl were after hand surgeries for Dupuytren’s Contractures (four in all). (Hand surgery is amazingly excruciating - each time I got the Fentanyl after morphine failed.)

My last surgery was in June. I still have the majority of the opiates they sent me home with (as occasionally my left hand still causes great pain because the surgical incision hasn’t fully healed yet, I ripped it open in my car wreck, and my hand is still swollen).

Now returning you to Little Green Footballs after an unscheduled whinge.

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:47:18pm

re: #430 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Now imagine a political system in which the Stupid Half controls a majority of Electoral College votes…

….because a lot of “smart” people let ‘em by:

not voting at all
not voting strategically
voting to “make a point”
equating both sides
etc etc

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:49:00pm

re: #436 Ace-o-aces

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:49:13pm

re: #432 goddamnedfrank

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“realistic” = “my life”

there’s your “privilege” right there

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:50:15pm

re: #438 Anymouse 🌹

The only times I’ve had Fentanyl were after hand surgeries for Dupuytren’s Contractures (four in all). (Hand surgery is amazingly excruciating - each time I got the Fentanyl after morphine failed.)
[…]

Hands have a lot of sensory nerves. I hope they all work with you, not against you.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:51:35pm

re: #441 dangerman

“realistic” = “my life”

there’s your “privilege” right there

If I were writing a realistic story set in my town of 128 people, it would of course include whites, but also Cubans, Natives, blacks, and Asians.

That was a first class piece of thinly-veiled racist drivel.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:53:20pm

re: #441 dangerman

“realistic” = “my life”

there’s your “privilege” right there

Anything else would be Identity Politics.

White=no ID needed.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:53:22pm

re: #440 goddamnedfrank

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Hell my town is 93% white and I can think of diversity here.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:55:26pm

re: #435 Anymouse 🌹

Well, I can’t say about my whole district, for example, but in my village I am one of only two adults that hasn’t been to college. (The other is my across-the-alley elderly neighbour; she graduated from sixth grade.)

With only eight votes for Hillary Clinton in my town, I’m guessing education wasn’t the problem.

I said Stupid, not uneducated

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JordanRules  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:56:27pm

re: #445 HappyWarrior

Right and diversity is not just race.

She just proved why marginalized groups are so called.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:57:09pm

re: #447 JordanRules

Right and diversity is not just race.

She just proved why marginalized groups are so called.

Yep.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:58:00pm

re: #446 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I said Stupid, not uneducated

Thank you for correcting my oversight.

Since Trump is bringing back all those coal jobs, maybe I can start a strip mine in my backyard. Maybe drill for oil or gas. (I’m on the village board, I could get my lot rezoned.)

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 26, 2017 • 12:58:17pm

Reported twice, for containing private information and for targeted harassment. Also, the icing on the cake -> Louise doxed the wrong guy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:00:34pm

re: #450 goddamnedfrank

Reported twice, for containing private information and for targeted harassment. Also, the icing on the cake -> Louise doxed the wrong guy.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:01:10pm

re: #450 goddamnedfrank

Reported twice, for containing private information and for targeted harassment. Also, the icing on the cake -> Louise doxed the wrong guy.

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Charles could probably include a ‘Report’ button on Tweets, with the ‘Reply’ and the vital ‘Images’ buttons.

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JordanRules  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:01:37pm

re: #450 goddamnedfrank

Oh man. I thought she just got suspended for doxxing another guy?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:04:48pm
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Renaissance_Man  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:05:05pm

re: #441 dangerman

“realistic” = “my life”

there’s your “privilege” right there

Also, if the story you’re writing is ‘realistically’ describing a group of people so monocultural and homogeneous that there is such minimal diversity of appearance and experience, that’s a pretty boring book. Sure, you may think there’s an interesting story to tell from such a limited view, but I assure you, there isn’t.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:06:08pm
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MsJ  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:09:56pm

re: #393 JordanRules

Savvy where?

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He’s too powerful to be this naive.

Or he’s lying his ass off. I vote #2.

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JordanRules  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:10:19pm

re: #453 JordanRules

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:11:33pm

re: #423 JordanRules

A trait of sociopaths is being able to fake empathy.

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:15:27pm

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JordanRules  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:16:42pm

re: #459 Belafon

Oh he doesn’t do that well at all though from what we’ve seen throughout his life, not just recently.
To me, this is more indicative of folks projecting it onto him as needed in cult life and not a realistic portrayal as needed in sane life.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:17:04pm

re: #435 Anymouse 🌹

Well, I can’t say about my whole district, for example, but in my village I am one of only two adults that hasn’t been to college. (The other is my across-the-alley elderly neighbour; she graduated from sixth grade.)

With only eight votes for Hillary Clinton in my town, I’m guessing education wasn’t the problem.

Education and intelligence, we’ve established if nothing else with this election, don’t always correlate.

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JordanRules  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:17:39pm

This video and this thread. Holy smokes!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:18:36pm

juanitajean.com

Okay, I’m gonna tell you about a new Texas PAC.

The name of it is — please enjoy this — “Young Minds Pursuing Righteousness.”

No, I absolutely am not kidding. It is based in Dipping Springs, Texas. I’m gonna go out on a limb here and guess that this is a Republican PAC.

And here’s a fun fact. The Designated Agent for this PAC is Stephen James Curran and, according to official state records, he’s 56 years old. Maybe he’s “young” at heart, I dunno. He votes in Republican primaries.

However, the treasurer, Emily Michelle Curran, is not a registered voter in Texas.

Okay, now I’m thinking this is a Russian deal.

Hell, it could be an Oklahoma deal.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:19:27pm

re: #423 JordanRules

As an aside, if you ever wondered whether Trump was cold enough to take healthcare away from tens of millions of strangers out of spite, this was what he did to FAMILY.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:27:25pm

re: #462 Belafon

Education and intelligence, we’ve established if nothing else with this election, don’t always correlate.

exactly.

“Education” isn’t solely the province of university/college graduates and it irks me to no end to hear humble bragging by those who never got a degree.

I am the ONLY person in my family to ever get a college degree (two degrees, in fact). Now one of our granddaughters is a freshman at Thomas More studying nursing. We could not be prouder, even if she had chosen another path after high school.

MrBWS is a high school grad. No college. But he is a journeyman lineman making more money than I ever dreamed I could make as a professional journalist with my two university degrees (OTOH, I *do* have certain ethical standards that prevent me for going for the big journalism bucks…also I never had the physical assets that are generally sought after in that field.)

My siblings all followed different paths after high school and most make a good living in their chosen fields.

So I really cringe whenever I hear “I only have a high school education, so what do I know?”

If you haven’t learned a damned thing after high school graduation, well, that’s just sad, but don’t blame it on high school.

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JordanRules  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:28:47pm

Forecast for America: cloudy with a chance of fascism

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:33:01pm

re: #467 JordanRules

Forecast for America: cloudy with a chance of fascism

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I’ve been a NWS service volunteer for going on about 40 years now.
The volunteers are really the backbone for NWS forecasts because we are the actual eyes on the ground to confirm what is being seen on satellite and radar.
I would encourage everyone to google NWS volunteer or NWS spotter training. It’s a lot of fun and hugely fascinating. And it doesn’t take a huge time commitment.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:33:14pm

Moral of the story
Pays to pack appropriately for long trips

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:36:16pm

Amazing how much derp can be packed into a single person. This guy is carrying a protest sign.

Image: e37e87fbab1009f7ef2c3fd84de99499b46a348cd8c55b802024db59cb6e09cf.jpg

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:37:56pm

re: #466 Backwoods_Sleuth

exactly.

“Education” isn’t solely the province of university/college graduates and it irks me to no end to hear humble bragging by those who never got a degree.

I am the ONLY person in my family to ever get a college degree (two degrees, in fact). Now one of our granddaughters is a freshman at Thomas More studying nursing. We could not be prouder, even if she had chosen another path after high school.

MrBWS is a high school grad. No college. But he is a journeyman lineman making more money than I ever dreamed I could make as a professional journalist with my two university degrees (OTOH, I *do* have certain ethical standards that prevent me for going for the big journalism bucks…also I never had the physical assets that are generally sought after in that field.)

My siblings all followed different paths after high school and most make a good living in their chosen fields.

So I really cringe whenever I hear “I only have a high school education, so what do I know?”

If you haven’t learned a damned thing after high school graduation, well, that’s just sad, but don’t blame it on high school.

Mr. w read a lot in the Navy, which he had joined because nobody even considered college as a place he could go. When he got out, he always hung around with college students or graduates. When he was dating the daughter of a Stanford prof, he applied to a college. They had him take the SAT. They accused him of either lying about never having taken it before, or cheating. He chose not to go to that college. He went when he was in his 60s. Man, did that school ever learn a lot. He quit when he felt like it, so close to a degree that meant nothing to him.

I hope we finish the book before yours comes out.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:39:24pm

re: #470 Anymouse 🌹

Amazing how much derp can be packed into a single person. This guy is carrying a protest sign.

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I can back 4, and presumably 5, of his issues.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:39:37pm

re: #466 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m not humblebragging about not going to college. I wish I’d been able to. I am the first person in my family in several generations that could not go to college (lack of money).

My chosen path to get to go to college was my military benefits. Those were snatched away from me when I became disabled and the VA declared me “unemployable” over epilepsy. (Fun fact: You lose your college benefits if that declaration is made.)

What little I know I had to learn on my own.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:41:25pm

re: #470 Anymouse 🌹

Amazing how much derp can be packed into a single person. This guy is carrying a protest sign.

Image: e37e87fbab1009f7ef2c3fd84de99499b46a348cd8c55b802024db59cb6e09cf.jpg

Reminds me of a street person who used to hang out nearby. We called her the Paragraph Lady. She’d set up 3’x4’ signs completely covered in lettering about 4” tall, right along El Camino. Totally impossible to read - and that was before she decided that silver letters on white paper would be better.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:42:13pm

re: #471 wrenchwench

Mr. w read a lot in the Navy, which he had joined because nobody even considered college as a place he could go. When he got out, he always hung around with college students or graduates. When he was dating the daughter of a Stanford prof, he applied to a college. They had him take the SAT. They accused him of either lying about never having taken it before, or cheating. He chose not to go to that college. He went when he was in his 60s. Man, did that school ever learn a lot. He quit when he felt like it, so close to a degree that meant nothing to him.

I hope we finish the book before yours comes out.

For those who really care, education never ends.
It takes a *lot* of different forms other than university/college.
And I actually find it insulting to imply otherwise.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:43:18pm

re: #474 Blind Frog Belly White

Reminds me of a street person who used to hang out nearby. We called her the Paragraph Lady. She’d set up 3’x4’ signs completely covered in lettering about 4” tall, right along El Camino. Totally impossible to read - and that was before she decided that silver letters on white paper would be better.

It’s some kind of shared impulse.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:43:58pm

re: #476 Decatur Deb

It’s some kind of shared impulse.

Oopps—better with the link:

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:44:00pm

re: #468 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve been a NWS service volunteer for going on about 40 years now.
The volunteers are really the backbone for NWS forecasts because we are the actual eyes on the ground to confirm what is being seen on satellite and radar.
I would encourage everyone to google NWS volunteer or NWS spotter training. It’s a lot of fun and hugely fascinating. And it doesn’t take a huge time commitment.

My cousin is a weather spotter for the NWS.

She was at her child’s high school graduation a couple years ago, and someone came barrelling into the middle of the graduation to yell there was a tornado in the school’s cornfield right behind the school. Everyone scrambled for cover. She later complained to me she didn’t get to see it.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:47:14pm

Guess what they found. GUESS!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:48:00pm

re: #477 Decatur Deb

Oopps—better with the link:

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Yikes. “Right to bare arms.”

I’m wearing a short-sleeve shirt right now. And when Michelle Obama wore a sleeveless dress wingnuts went crazy - they didn’t want her to exercise her right to bare arms.

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:48:00pm

re: #477 Decatur Deb

Oopps—better with the link:

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bare arms against the government” (upper right)

heh

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:48:49pm

re: #475 Backwoods_Sleuth

For those who really care, education never ends.
It takes a *lot* of different forms other than university/college.
And I actually find it insulting to imply otherwise.

Only after my injury did I learn why half my school mates were studying psychology. After making fun of them for their interest in it. Live and learn. I did both.

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ObserverArt  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:48:53pm

re: #473 Anymouse 🌹

I’m not humblebragging about not going to college. I wish I’d been able to. I am the first person in my family in several generations that could not go to college (lack of money).

My chosen path to get to go to college was my military benefits. Those were snatched away from me when I became disabled and the VA declared me “unemployable” over epilepsy. (Fun fact: You lose your college benefits if that declaration is made.)

What little I know I had to learn on my own.

The one thing I was very appreciative of the nuns at my old Catholic school was they taught us to like to learn. Sure, they were classic strict nuns and disciplinarians, but that really was a part of the education. That and not taking “I can’t do it” for any kind of an answer.The passion many of them had for their subjects was obvious.

It all made for an education you didn’t understand until you were out of high school. And most of the folks I went to school with did well in their lives, many further educated and a lot of them say our grade and high school made college easier.

It was truly a college prep school.

Even for an artist like me. I aced all my college art history classes because I already knew 75% of the course from the nun that taught art in high school.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:49:19pm

re: #475 Backwoods_Sleuth

For those who really care, education never ends.
It takes a *lot* of different forms other than university/college.
And I actually find it insulting to imply otherwise.

Well, my wife has two degrees, so she can loan me one. /s

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:49:23pm

re: #477 Decatur Deb

“Obama removed our missile defense against Russia.”

I wonder if he cares about Trump’s collusion.

Hahahahahaha. I keed.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:50:40pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:51:43pm

re: #474 Blind Frog Belly White

Reminds me of a street person who used to hang out nearby. We called her the Paragraph Lady. She’d set up 3’x4’ signs completely covered in lettering about 4” tall, right along El Camino. Totally impossible to read - and that was before she decided that silver letters on white paper would be better.

We had a guy on the West side of Columbus that had screeds like that on panels of whatever he could find and then he attached them to the wooden fence all around his house. Red and black lettering on wood, plastic, metal.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:53:39pm

re: #477 Decatur Deb

Oopps—better with the link:

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Some kind of shared lack of impulse control, you mean.

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Skip Intro  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:55:16pm

re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth

I had no idea that the yam’s ancestors were Confederates…

Naw, they were pimps and con men.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:56:45pm

Oh dear! Turns out there is surveillance video from a nearby house.

$20 Million Lawsuit Filed Against Lubbock PD for Officer-Involved Shooting

A federal civil rights lawsuit was filed Wednesday against Lubbock Police for allegations of excessive force. A document filed with the lawsuit said the demand is for $20 million.

The lawsuit said officer Billy Mitchell confronted Paul Anthony Valderas, 31, of Lubbock on January 26. Valderas was the subject of multiple narcotis investigations. A police report listed the location as the 3300 block of Grinnell Street and Valderas had been spotted at a nearby convenience store. Officers set up a perimeter and decided to move in.

The report said Valderas “produced a handgun and was shot by one of the investigators.”

The lawsuit paints a different picture.

“Surveillance video from a nearby home later emerged,” the lawsuit said. “The audio and video showed Mitchell did not properly identify himself as a police officer.”

The lawsuit said Valderas had been armed but disarmed himself prior to the shooting.

It said, “When Mr. Valderas realized Mitchell was a cop, Mr. Valderas very clearly disarmed himself by placing the gun in a nearby vehicle—inaccessible to his person.”

The suit also alleges that other officers do NOT support Mitchell’s version of events.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:57:04pm

re: #486 FormerDirtDart

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That’s it! No way am I buying a Tesla!*

*Not that THAT was gonna ever happen. But still…

My observation is that Silicon Valley, for all that a lot of the big names are noted liberals, get real conservative around their profits.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2017 • 1:57:48pm

re: #489 Skip Intro

Naw, they were pimps and con men.

Ah. So those traits breed true.

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ObserverArt  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:00:02pm

re: #488 Blind Frog Belly White

Some kind of shared lack of impulse control, you mean.

He spent a chunk of money on a professional photographer, but insisted on putting the ad together himself, and writing his own copy. He ended up with a small picture and a page of text. Same inability to understand that nobody has time or interest in reading your deathless prose, whether it’s on the side of your camper, on big placards along a busy street, or in the middle of a scientific journal.

That would have worked in a sound/stereo magazine back in the late 60s, early to mid 70s. There sometimes was not enough specs for the audiophile!

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:00:15pm

WOW
bet that dumpster fire is a full on 5 alarm blaze right now

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:00:24pm

ummm….that “UNITY” he needs to not underestimate is The Resistance…

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:01:06pm

re: #491 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s it! No way am I buying a Tesla!*

*Not that THAT was gonna ever happen. But still…

My observation is that Silicon Valley, for all that a lot of the big names are noted liberals, get real conservative around their profits.

There’s a certain strain of glibertarianism that runs through Silicon Valley.

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Skip Intro  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:01:52pm

re: #399 Kragar

Then add in the Trump voters.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:03:54pm

More news from Lubbock, the vanguard of conservative America.

Social Media in Lubbock Raises Issue of White Supremacy Because of Poster
“Social media?” Headline trivializes the reaction. Actually it was the chair of the local Democratic Party who raised it ON social media.

The Chair of the Lubbock County Democratic Party, Stuart Williams, posted an image on social media Tuesday evening and said people locally should be aware of “white supremacy.”

Williams was harshly critical of what he saw.

The image depicted a poster of Uncle Sam and the caption said, “I want you to love who you are. Don’t apologize for being white.”

“Spotted at Holden Hall at Texas Tech University,” Williams said on a Facebook group for Lubbock Democrats. Williams was harshly critical.

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JordanRules  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:05:17pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:06:12pm

re: #498 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Exactly who is apologizing to whom for “being white”?
Appears to be a look into the mirror sort of thing…

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Stanley Sea  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:09:02pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:09:37pm

re: #496 KGxvi

There’s a certain strain of glibertarianism that runs through Silicon Valley.

There’s a whole lot of not giving a crap about consequence in a lot of tech and how people choose to spend their money. But it’s not just tech. People talk about ‘voting with their pocketbooks’ when it comes to artists or athletes taking a political stand they don’t like, but they’ll shop at Walmart or other big box stores - and now on Amazon - and then decry the loss of the Mom And Pop Stores.

Perfect example - my idiot sister says she will never forgive Hillary Clinton, because HRC served on Walmart’s BoD, and Walmart ‘destroyed my hometown’*. But she herself proudly worked at Home Depot for years, assisting in the destruction of Mom And Pop hardware stores.

*If she thinks Walmart destroyed Gettysburg, I urge her to try to drive through the Square anytime between Memorial Day and Labor Day

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:10:55pm

re: #498 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Why not just have a poster that says, “Embrace Your White Privilege!”?

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:13:02pm

New Graduation Requirement: Patriotism
College of the Ozarks president calls new required course “a balance against a pervasive negative view of America.”

Quick quiz: Where is Omaha Beach?
If your answer was Normandy, France, the site of the D-Day landings, you’re correct. But Jerry Davis is worried that kids these days might wager Nebraska.
That’s why the College of the Ozarks, where Davis is president, has launched a new required course for freshmen — dubbed Patriotic Education and Fitness — to combat what he sees as rising anti-American, antipatriotic sentiments in American culture that have been “bubbling for many years.” How much that is true versus how much that is his perception is certainly up for debate, but given that one of the college’s five pillars is “patriotic education,” the course certainly fits the culture of the Christian liberal arts college.

The college held a media day for local outlets in Point Lookout, Mo., Monday to show off the new four-credit course, which was piloted both semesters last year and debuted in earnest as a requirement for freshmen this semester. At the media day, a formation of students marched through campus and stood at attention as Davis addressed them. Terrence Dake, a Board of Trustees member and retired Marine general, told them to stand at ease before continuing with another address.
Speaking by phone with Inside Higher Ed Wednesday, Davis had criticisms of the younger generation but said the course — which combines elements from ROTC programming, physical education courses and the college’s patriotic education pillar — was about building a positive citizenry.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:17:54pm

re: #485 Belafon

“Obama removed our missile defense against Russia.”

I wonder if he cares about Trump’s collusion.

Hahahahahaha. I keed.

What are all these Minuteman III silos around my house? Massive golf green cups?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:20:18pm

re: #500 Backwoods_Sleuth

Exactly who is apologizing to whom for “being white”?
Appears to be a look into the mirror sort of thing…

I’ve never apologized for being white but I’ve never used being white to claim superiority to others too.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:22:47pm

re: #502 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s a whole lot of not giving a crap about consequence in a lot of tech and how people choose to spend their money. But it’s not just tech. People talk about ‘voting with their pocketbooks’ when it comes to artists or athletes taking a political stand they don’t like, but they’ll shop at Walmart or other big box stores - and now on Amazon - and then decry the loss of the Mom And Pop Stores.

Perfect example - my idiot sister says she will never forgive Hillary Clinton, because HRC served on Walmart’s BoD, and Walmart ‘destroyed my hometown’*. But she herself proudly worked at Home Depot for years, assisting in the destruction of Mom And Pop hardware stores.

*If she thinks Walmart destroyed Gettysburg, I urge her to try to drive through the Square anytime between Memorial Day and Labor Day

Your sister could move here, where we have no big box stores for more than sixty miles.

I’ve never shopped in such places, even when I lived in cities.

508
Belafon  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:23:02pm

re: #504 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

New Graduation Requirement: Patriotism
College of the Ozarks president calls new required course “a balance against a pervasive negative view of America.”

If I were an English teacher there, I would then present them with the book and the movie The Wave.

509
makeitstop  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:23:38pm
510
Belafon  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:24:13pm

re: #477 Decatur Deb

I do like the stuff about UFOs.

511
Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:26:23pm

InSys Theraputics Founder Charged in Opioid Fraud Case (goes to Bloomberg), more at the link:

Insys Therapeutics Inc. founder John Kapoor is accused of helping fuel the U.S. opioid epidemic by bribing doctors to prescribe a powerful form of fentanyl to patients who didn’t need the potent drug.

Kapoor, 74, was arrested Thursday in Arizona and charged with racketeering conspiracy and other felonies. He’s scheduled to appear in a Phoenix court later in the day.

Kapoor and other former Insys executives are also accused of defrauding insurance companies that were reluctant to approve payments for the drug by improperly getting prior authorization directly from the insurers and pharmacy benefit managers, Acting U.S. Attorney William Weinreb in Boston said in a press release.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:27:27pm

re: #510 Belafon

I do like the stuff about UFOs.

We pass this sign every time we go to Daughter2. It’s a bit of an online favorite, and had a Roy Moore companion sign the last time we went.

513
Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:29:03pm

Trump Donor Shoots Two Homeless Men — Then Kills Their Attorney After Losing Lawsuit

A Missouri man is being sought in connection with the murder of an attorney in Kansas City, MO who had successfully argued a previous shooting case against him.

The suspect, David Jungerman, is a Trump donor.

Jungerman is believed to have shot and killed Tom Pickert, a 39-year old personal injury attorney who won a civil suit against him on behalf of homeless men shot by Jungerman.

Pickert was found dead outside of his home in Kansas City’s Brookside neighborhood by his wife, who was also home at the time. Pickert was sitting on his porch after walking his children home from school when he was murdered. Witnesses said a white 1997 Chevrolet van registered to Jungerman had fled the scene. It was found abandoned on Wednesday afternoon.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:29:27pm
515
Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:30:27pm

re: #512 Decatur Deb

The Grim Reaper lives in Nebraska, wears a trilby, and drives a Smart.
516
Decatur Deb  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:31:28pm

re: #515 Anymouse 🌹

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That would be the Grim Hipster. Easy mistake.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:31:28pm

yeppers….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:32:18pm

re: #515 Anymouse 🌹

[Embedded content]

The Grim Reapster.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:32:33pm

re: #513 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Trump Donor Shoots Two Homeless Men — Then Kills Their Attorney After Losing Lawsuit

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Needs to rot in jail.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:33:15pm

re: #516 Decatur Deb

That would be the Grim Hipster. Easy mistake.

I’m insulted. Hipster? (Well, I guess osteoporosis qualifies as “hipster” in a way… .)

521
Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:33:22pm

re: #519 HappyWarrior

Needs to rot in jail.

Shot dead by police works for me, too.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:33:48pm

re: #516 Decatur Deb

That would be the Grim Hipster. Easy mistake.

He doesn’t take your life. That’s too mainstream. He does know some good microbreweries and some bands you’ve never heard of.

523
HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:34:21pm

re: #521 Blind Frog Belly White

Shot dead by police works for me, too.

Too quick.

524
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:35:01pm
525
TedStriker  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:35:18pm

re: #519 HappyWarrior

Needs to rot in jail.

Dude’s 79…it’s not like he’s going to live long enough in prison to really count as justice to the family of the man he killed. Seeing as he’s a hardcore “conservative” and Trumper, it wouldn’t surprise me if he takes the coward’s way out, either by suicide or suicide-by-cop.

Still, if he’s caught alive and lives through his eventual trial, he should spend the rest of his natural life in jail, if for no other reason than to segregate him from society.

526
scottslemmons  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:35:31pm

re: #523 HappyWarrior

Too quick.

Yeah, that’s a guy I want to suffer. Hopefully, he’ll get caught and can look forward to dying in prison. (More’n likely, though, he’s already killed himself.)

527
Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:35:45pm

re: #521 Blind Frog Belly White

Shot dead by police works for me, too.

I’m fine with him spending the rest of his life in jail.

528
Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:35:58pm
529
Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:36:25pm

re: #523 HappyWarrior

Too quick.

Mortally wounded by police?

530
Decatur Deb  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:36:53pm

re: #526 scottslemmons

Yeah, that’s a guy I want to suffer. Hopefully, he’ll get caught and can look forward to dying in prison. (More’n likely, though, he’s already killed himself.)

If he fires a round into his jaw, at least he’ll die doing what he loved.

531
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:37:15pm

Scarier is the first paragraph…that is so totally Seven Mountains.

532
HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:38:10pm

re: #524 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’ll be happy to vote for him next month. He’s a fine man.

533
Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:38:35pm
534
RinaX  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:38:47pm

The movie adaption of Mark Halperin’s book is dead.

535
HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:38:58pm

re: #529 Blind Frog Belly White

Mortally wounded by police?

Compared with the uncomfort of a jail cell? Yeah.

536
bratwurst  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:39:00pm

Fucking hell, praise for Trump “opening up about his brother” in his anti-drug speech?

It was an empty speech from the emptiest human being on the planet. There was not a single thing there anyone should praise for one second.

537
HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:42:35pm

re: #531 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Scarier is the first paragraph…that is so totally Seven Mountains.

I’m sick of his petty bullshit. Oh and Bernie refused to endorse Northam here in Virginia. Him and I supported the same candidate but unlike Bernie, when Tom lost, he got on board with helping not just other Democrats but also Lt. Governor Northam get elected. Sanders is a lot more like Trump than his supporters want to admit. Petty, vindictive, dismissive.

538
Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:43:57pm

re: #519 HappyWarrior

Needs to rot in jail.

He’s a rich guy whose company, Babee Tenda Corporation, makes a patented highchair for infants. The company is in the process of being seized to satisfy the judgement for shooting the two homeless guys, a judgement won by the susequently murdered lawyer. Both of the homeless guys survived.

539
HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:45:30pm

re: #538 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

He’s a rich guy whose company, Babee Tenda Corporation, makes a patented highchair for infants. The company is in the process of being seized to satisfy the judgement for shooting the two homeless guys, a judgement won by the susequently murdered lawyer. Both of the homeless guys survived.

That’s good. I feel so awful for that lawyer and his family. Reminds of that guy Lowtax Looper who after losing an election shot and killed his opponent.

540
HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:47:26pm

You know what though, I’m tired of Sanders bitching about money when he took plenty of DSCC money to get his first Senate election in a race that wasn’t even close.

541
petesh  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:47:47pm

re: #537 HappyWarrior

I’m sick of his petty bullshit. Oh and Bernie refused to endorse Northam here in Virginia. Him and I supported the same candidate but unlike Bernie, when Tom lost, he got on board with helping not just other Democrats but also Lt. Governor Northam get elected. Sanders is a lot more like Trump than his supporters want to admit. Petty, vindictive, dismissive.

And why is he now pushing someone for Mayor of Atlanta who is tied for 3rd place, 19 points behind the leader? I understand quid-pro-quos (quids-pro-quo? quid-pro-quo’s? Help me out here, grammarists) but that’s just pissing away whatever credibility he has left.

542
HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:47:50pm

I want money out of politics too. I hate the Citizens United decision but Sanders is a hypocrite.

543
Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:47:51pm

This is really a twofer for Trump. He gets to simultaneously claim he’s not standing impeding the Pentagon in fighting the war(s), AND when something goes wrong he gets to point fingers.

Of course, that’s not how management works. If you give your underlings the authority to make decisions, all the decisions they make are STILL your responsibility.

544
HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:49:00pm

re: #541 petesh

And why is he now pushing someone for Mayor of Atlanta who is tied for 3rd place, 19 points behind the leader? I understand quid-pro-quos (quids-pro-quo? quid-pro-quo’s? Help me out here, grammarists) but that’s just pissing away whatever credibility he has left.

Well the guy supported him. That usually seems to be Bernie’s rule for who gets his support. Meanwhile Hillary, despite the myth of her being vindictive, her running mate, Senator Kaine was actually the second governor in the country to endorse Obama back in 2008.

545
Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:49:46pm

re: #539 HappyWarrior

That’s good. I feel so awful for that lawyer and his family. Reminds of that guy Lowtax Looper who after losing an election shot and killed his opponent.

Party of family values (R).

He has a Wikipedia entry:

en.wikipedia.org

546
HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:50:59pm

re: #545 Anymouse 🌹

Party of family values (R).

He has a Wikipedia entry:

en.wikipedia.org

Yep, I remember seeing the story on American Justice with Bill Kurtis back in the day.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:51:09pm

re: #543 Blind Frog Belly White

Reload 543. Forgot to paste tweet address. It’ll make more sense.

548
Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:51:45pm

re: #543 Blind Frog Belly White

This is really a twofer for Trump. He gets to simultaneously claim he’s not standing impeding the Pentagon in fighting the war(s), AND when something goes wrong he gets to point fingers.

Of course, that’s not how management works. If you give your underlings the authority to make decisions, all the decisions they make are STILL your responsibility.

In the military it is continually pointed out that you cannot give someone responsibility without also giving them authority.

Trump is really good at delegating the responsibility part, not so good at delegating the authority part. (If someone below you does well, you give them the credit. If things go haywire, you take responsibility.)

549
Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 2:57:43pm

re: #546 HappyWarrior

Yep, I remember seeing the story on American Justice with Bill Kurtis back in the day.

The campaign following the murder

Tennessee state law required that the name of a candidate who died before the election be removed from the ballot, and it did not allow the candidate’s party to replace a deceased candidate who died within 30 days of the election.[10] Accordingly, after Burks’ death, Looper became the only candidate listed on the official ballot for Burks’ senate seat.[11] This may have been Looper’s intention.

Several people tried to have Looper’s name stricken from the ballot, claiming that Looper’s arrest constituted moral turpitude. The state Republican Party distanced itself from Looper. To prevent Looper from winning the state senate seat on a technicality, Burks’ widow, Charlotte was put forth as a write-in candidate for her husband’s seat. Dozens of volunteers helped her campaign, including some Republicans. On election day, Charlotte Burks (D), as a write-in candidate, won the seat with 30,252 votes against Looper’s 1,531 votes. One of her first initiatives as state senator was to introduce legislation to ensure that the name of any candidate who dies within 40 days of an election could remain on the ballot, thus preventing the situation that occurred after her husband’s death. Charlotte Burks remained on the state senate until retiring after the 2014 election; she won re-election in 2002, 2006, and 2010.

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fern01  Oct 26, 2017 • 4:23:53pm

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

In case this hasn’t been posted
Edit - just saw anymouse posted above - worth a repeat

551
fern01  Oct 26, 2017 • 4:29:54pm

re: #389 Backwoods_Sleuth

He is absolutely clueless about how opioid addiction starts.

Fixed that for you

552
fern01  Oct 26, 2017 • 5:04:39pm

re: #477 Decatur Deb

“The right to bare arms” - always reminds me of Michele Obama & I’ll smile for the next hour or two.

553
fern01  Oct 26, 2017 • 5:11:52pm

re: #501 Stanley Sea

Never trump’s fault - passes the buck downwards every single time. When the bomb goes off - his last words will be - I didn’t press the button.

554
fern01  Oct 26, 2017 • 5:15:52pm

re: #521 Blind Frog Belly White

Shot dead by police works for me, too.

He’s white - no chance

555
The Major  Oct 26, 2017 • 6:51:18pm

re: #419 ObserverArt

David Stockman has been saying the Republican Trickle Down Theory he sold for St Ronald was bullshit for at least 7 or 8 years now.

Funny. He was the hero architect of it all. A mastermind.

Now that he calls it what it is, they don’t know who he is and even moreso what he is even talking about.

And get this-he’s using the Internet and Google Ad money as some form of redemption.

Some of us who have seen Fire and Rain know exactly what controls David Stockman:

Dan Fogelberg - The Power of Gold (from Live: Greetings from the West)


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