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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:29:19pm

I seriously think there are a lot of people on the right who would have preferred to have Hillary to beat up on for 8 years than deal with the shitstain that is Trump.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:31:46pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

I seriously think there are a lot of people on the right who would have preferred to have Hillary to beat up on for 8 years than deal with the shitstain that is Trump.

Chaffetz stated publically that he wanted to endlessly tie up Hillary in investigation after investigation. And the RadiKKKal RepubliKKKlans were hell bent on impeaching her over and over again…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:43:30pm

Update:

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Amalthea's Shadow  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:48:33pm

Thanks Charles for helping me with my login glitch! In doublechecking for the third time tonight I figured out that when I had “saved” the username it was coming up as my email address. Who said my momma didn’t raise no dummies? Yeesh……I do hate when I make obvious mistakes I can’t catch myself in a timely fashion. Oh well, the one great thing about getting older is that vanity gets kicked out the window, as well as a perfect memory. So I’ll go catch up on reading the rules and peoples post and take my red face with me.

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scottslemmons  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:51:28pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

I seriously think there are a lot of people on the right who would have preferred to have Hillary to beat up on for 8 years than deal with the shitstain that is Trump.

They’re only happy when they’re terrified or enraged. And Trump hasn’t given them permission yet to go out and kill their enemies, so they’re not getting the terror or rage they crave. But you see plenty of them trying to give the wingnuts the stimulation they need by inventing new threats (IOW, non-white people, people who aren’t Trumpers and/or Nazis, and random people who’ve somehow angered the horde) who they can fear or hate.

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retired cynic  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:52:27pm

re: #5 scottslemmons

They are adrenaline junkies. They love it. It makes me sick.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:55:55pm

re: #5 scottslemmons

They’re only happy when they’re terrified or enraged. And Trump hasn’t given them permission yet to go out and kill their enemies, so they’re not getting the terror or rage they crave. But you see plenty of them trying to give the wingnuts the stimulation they need by inventing new threats (IOW, non-white people, people who aren’t Trumpers and/or Nazis, and random people who’ve somehow angered the horde) who they can fear or hate.

The epoxy that binds the RepubliKKKlan Party together is an equal mix of hate and greed.

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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2017 • 9:58:05pm

Was surfing the internet when I stumbled across this chilling fact. Sammy “The Bull” Gravano was released from prison last month after serving 15 years for drug trafficking. He admitted to 19 murders to federal investigators in 1990.

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retired cynic  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:00:39pm

re: #8 teleskiguy

Was surfing the internet when I stumbled across this chilling fact. Sammy “The Bull” Gravano was released from prison last month after serving 15 years for drug trafficking. He admitted to 19 murders to federal investigators in 1990.

How old is he? That might have something to do with how much danger he is.

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MsJ  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:02:15pm

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:03:43pm

re: #9 retired cynic

How old is he? That might have something to do with how much danger he is.

He’s 72, suffering from Graves’ disease.

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retired cynic  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:04:20pm

re: #11 teleskiguy

He’s 72, suffering from Graves’ disease.

I’m almost that old, and I’m still dangerous.

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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:16:03pm

“What we haven’t done enough of is encourage more people to openly ridicule stupid ideas,” he says.

“Or at least encourage people to ask questions. I think we’ve been far too polite and far too lenient - at least in my country - on religious fundamentalism.”

That, however, needs to be but one prong of a two-pronged assault.

“We also have not done a good job of teaching science,” he continues. “These are intimately related, because how do you tell the difference between sense and nonsense in this modern political arena filled with ‘alternative facts’?

“We have this problem, and I really do think it stems from teaching science the wrong way. We teach it as if it’s a bunch of facts, but it’s not: it’s a process for deriving facts.”

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Alyosha  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:33:02pm

So yeah, our High Court returned a verdict that deemed a number of our pollies ineligible to stand in parliament including the Deputy PM and Johnny Depp tormentor, Barnaby Joyce and his deputy party leader, Fiona Nash.
So now the ruling Coalition government’s majority has been erased pending a by-election in Joyce’s electorate in December. Now the Labor opposition is calling into question the legitimacy of parliamentary votes Joyce was instrumental in passing.

If, and it’s a big ‘if’, Joyce loses his election bid, Bill Shorten might be PM before Christmas. That’d be hilarious.

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Amalthea's Shadow  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:38:38pm
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JordanRules  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:50:28pm

Oh so glad to see he fully recovered from the beating Maxine Waters served him and is now getting love from THE Palace intrigue reporter.

“I speak real”
WTF is that!?!? You’re a dolt Ms. Haberman!

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 26, 2017 • 10:53:19pm

The Right Wing attack on Vegas hero Jesus Campos is sickening. These people have no morals.

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fern01  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:04:36pm

re: #14 Alyosha

So yeah, our High Court returned a verdict that deemed a number of our pollies ineligible to stand in parliament including the Deputy PM and Johnny Depp tormentor, Barnaby Joyce and his deputy party leader, Fiona Nash.
So now the ruling Coalition government’s majority has been erased pending a by-election in Joyce’s electorate in December. Now the Labor opposition is calling into question the legitimacy of parliamentary votes Joyce was instrumental in passing.

If, and it’s a big ‘if’, Joyce loses his election bid, Bill Shorten might be PM before Christmas. That’d be hilarious.

Tony Windsor says he is not running - so Joyce will win. It seems Joyce has the unfair advantage. The senators have lost their seats and will be replaced by someone they defeated at the last election. Barnaby Joyce has lost his seat but he can immediately run for reelection. If would be fairer if the seat went to his closest opponent in the last election (who I think was Tony Windsor) - given he was ineligible to stand at that time.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:06:39pm

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fern01  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:13:54pm

re: #19 Eclectic Cyborg

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:17:49pm

My feeling is that we’re now getting stupid-wave number 2.

By that I mean the Trumpers are starting to move to double down on their investment in the hate-monger-extreme.

This is part of the reason that so many have jumped on the idea that the stories of Trump-badness are nothing but DNC oppo-research from the election.

It’s why some GOP Congressmen are trying to smear those who know better, about Trump.

The hate-right has sunk investment into Trumperism, and now they have to defend their investment.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:27:52pm

Yet another sad story of innovative entrepreneurs victimized by government interference in business. Why can’t they just let the market decide?

Russian cannibal couple tried to sell ‘human meat pies’ to restaurants, made snacks for nearby soldiers

A Russian couple who confessed to killing and eating at least 30 people turned soldiers into unknowing cannibals, and tried to sell “human meat pies” to local restaurants, according to authorities.

Dmitry Baksheev and wife Natalia are believed to have given “frozen meat pieces” to personnel at a military academy based near their home in Krasnodar. And the killer couple also tried to get local restaurants to sample their fare.

“She was very active, asked lots of questions but mainly about where we buy our meat and fish and how fresh it is,” local cafe owner Vitaly Yakubenko told the Moskovsky Komsomolets newspaper, according to Metro. “I said that we work only with certified suppliers.”

Renowned Republican cannibal Alferd Packer could certainly sympathize.

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JordanRules  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:34:44pm

You know who would probably replace it with a fake gold piece of crap.

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Amalthea's Shadow  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:36:06pm

re: #17 DodgerFan1988

Went to read up on this and these people aren’t stopping with Campos.

They are deranged, paranoid, delusional, and there are people who are shit-stirring this ugly pot on purpose. I don’t understand it.

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Alyosha  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:45:14pm

re: #18 fern01

Tony Windsor says he is not running - so Joyce will win. It seems Joyce has the unfair advantage. The senators have lost their seats and will be replaced by someone they defeated at the last election. Barnaby Joyce has lost his seat but he can immediately run for reelection. If would be fairer if the seat went to his closest opponent in the last election (who I think was Tony Windsor) - given he was ineligible to stand at that time.

Yeah I listened to a long radio interview with Windsor this arvo. I like that he seems so engaged in the problem of the Coalition’s absenteeism over climate change and obviously thinks Joyce is selling out rural Australia fir short-term political gain. I was agreeing with him but as it became clear he wasn’t interested in running I then thought, ‘well why are you talking?’

It’s a bit of a big nothing at the moment, I guess we’ll see whether Turnbull decides to suspend parliament or just holds up business with procedural stuff. Haha their MPs will definitely have to be chained to the house floor, can’t have Labor taking over again like tgey did at the start of the year.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:48:13pm
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I cannot.  Oct 26, 2017 • 11:57:35pm

Guess what I just found out…or probably already knew, just forgot…

Whitefish: Population under 7000
Notable former residents: Sec. Ryan Zinke of the Dept. of Interior
Notable CURRENT Residents: RICHARD FUCKING SPENSER

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:04:41am

re: #27 I cannot.

Change the name to Blackfish. He’ll be out within a week.

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fern01  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:12:33am

re: #25 Alyosha

Yeah I listened to a long radio interview with Windsor this arvo. I like that he seems so engaged in the problem of the Coalition’s absenteeism over climate change and obviously thinks Joyce is selling out rural Australia fir short-term political gain. I was agreeing with him but as it became clear he wasn’t interested in running I then thought, ‘well why are you talking?’

It’s a bit of a big nothing at the moment, I guess we’ll see whether Turnbull decides to suspend parliament or just holds up business with procedural stuff. Haha their MPs will definitely have to be chained to the house floor, can’t have Labor taking over again like tgey did at the start of the year.

Did you listen to Tanya Plibersek - I thought she spoke really well - sounded much better that Shorten usually does - I guess he was staying out of the way to stop the press questions re the raid of the AWU office - going back to 2006 seems they are really stretching reality here. Tanya would make a good PM if people can get over the misogyny.

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Alyosha  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:20:11am

re: #29 fern01

Did you listen to Tanya Plibersek - I thought she spoke really well - sounded much better that Shorten usually does - I guess he was staying out of the way to stop the press questions re the raid of the AWU office - going back to 2006 seems they are really stretching reality here. Tanya would make a good PM if people can get over the misogyny.

Yeah, this whole court decision blew the Michaelia Cash stuff right off the headlines.
Plibersek would be a decent opposition leader or PM, but you’re right, I remember the way Gillard was treated only too well.

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Alyosha  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:25:38am

re: #29 fern01

Shorten is a weird one. Almost no force of character, stilted and boring but he’s still leader. I mean, don’t get me wrong, stability in the leadership after the last few years is a welcome change and they don’t want to fuck things up since the government’s been in such a state of disarray.
But… Shorten? Maybe the guy who’s played Brutus more than once is a pretty smooth operator.

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Lupin  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:32:18am

Those who lived to describe the mass shooting in Vegas face flood of abuse on social media accusing them of being actors, as hoax claims flourish on YouTube. Appalling. Most of that crap would be illegal in France.

guardian

Barbaric Murkans can’t handle the second amendment, or the first.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 27, 2017 • 1:00:25am

re: #32 Lupin

Those who lived to describe the mass shooting in Vegas face flood of abuse on social media accusing them of being actors, as hoax claims flourish on YouTube. Appalling. Most of that crap would be illegal in France.

guardian

Barbaric Murkans can’t handle the second amendment, or the first.

Conspiraliars are brutalizing innocent people, many of whom have already been victimized by violent criminals. I think drastic measures are justified. At the very least, abusive conspiracy scum should be publicly identified and fired from their jobs, just as the Charlottesville Nazis were. It comes as a surprise to many outhouse lawyers that this is even legal, but it certainly is and there is a long history of case law behind it. Beyond that, many HR professionals are coming to realize that belief in multiply debunked conspiracies, especially if they involve vilification of named people, are a RED FLAG for very serious ethical and intellectual shortcomings. A while back I mentioned the local hotel clerk who bought the whole Alex Jones shit banquet, from Sandy Hook to the Moon landings. I was not a bit surprised to learn that he had been fired and arrested for stealing from the hotel.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 27, 2017 • 1:08:27am

re: #32 Lupin

Yeah, because an entertainment company could TOTALLY hire 550+ people to pretend to get shot and have everybody totally shut the fuck up about the whole thing being a work…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 27, 2017 • 1:26:49am

Good news/Bad news update

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Lupin  Oct 27, 2017 • 3:17:12am

re: #33 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Conspiraliars are brutalizing innocent people, many of whom have already been victimized by violent criminals. I think drastic measures are justified. At the very least, abusive conspiracy scum should be publicly identified and fired from their jobs, just as the Charlottesville Nazis were. It comes as a surprise to many outhouse lawyers that this is even legal, but it certainly is and there is a long history of case law behind it. Beyond that, many HR professionals are coming to realize that belief in multiply debunked conspiracies, especially if they involve vilification of named people, are a RED FLAG for very serious ethical and intellectual shortcomings. A while back I mentioned the local hotel clerk who bought the whole Alex Jones shit banquet, from Sandy Hook to the Moon landings. I was not a bit surprised to learn that he had been fired and arrested for stealing from the hotel.

I’d have no problems if they only tried to propagate their lunatic theories on blogs, articles, etc — freedom of expression, etc, OK. But to send hate mails to the survivors, there, I’d criminalize that & fine them heavily, like $1000 per recorded offense.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 27, 2017 • 4:51:56am

Police: Bluffs brawl started after ‘Twerking Olympics’ at bar, ended with ‘small riot’ at Iowa Western dorms

Six Iowa Western Community College students turned themselves over to authorities following an investigation into a brawl on campus in September.

The incident occurred after more than 100 people gathered in the 100 block of West Broadway on Sept. 22 for an event known as “Twerking Olympics.” The event was sponsored by a bar and was not sanctioned by the college.

Twerking is a form of dancing that involves shaking the posterior.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 27, 2017 • 5:08:54am

Free coffee today (iced, hot) at all Cumberland Farms gas stations today!

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Sea Mexican!  Oct 27, 2017 • 5:09:08am

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

Update:

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Decatur Deb  Oct 27, 2017 • 5:28:12am

re: #37 Shropshire Slasher

Police: Bluffs brawl started after ‘Twerking Olympics’ at bar, ended with ‘small riot’ at Iowa Western dorms

Why can’t they just swallow goldfish like normal coeds?

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 27, 2017 • 5:31:56am
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Citizen K  Oct 27, 2017 • 5:44:30am

re: #2 Joe Bacon 🌹

Chaffetz stated publically that he wanted to endlessly tie up Hillary in investigation after investigation. And the RadiKKKal RepubliKKKlans were hell bent on impeaching her over and over again…

Well…not that different from what we’re getting now, in all honesty.

They were going to do it regardless.

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Sea Mexican!  Oct 27, 2017 • 5:48:36am

re: #35 Eclectic Cyborg

Good news/Bad news update

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2017 • 5:49:49am

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

I seriously think there are a lot of people on the right who would have preferred to have Hillary to beat up on for 8 years than deal with the shitstain that is Trump.

because they understand the difference between a short-term gain and a long-term loss…

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Citizen K  Oct 27, 2017 • 5:53:04am

re: #44 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

because they understand the difference between a short-term gain and a long-term loss…

Objection. Assumes facts not in evidence.

Their continued religious fervor for tax cut gospel puts the lie to this every time.

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fern01  Oct 27, 2017 • 5:57:34am

re: #31 Alyosha

Shorten is a weird one. Almost no force of character, stilted and boring but he’s still leader. I mean, don’t get me wrong, stability in the leadership after the last few years is a welcome change and they don’t want to fuck things up since the government’s been in such a state of disarray.
But… Shorten? Maybe the guy who’s played Brutus more than once is a pretty smooth operator.

No idea of your age but I remember when Bill Hayden was the leader of the opposition - nice enough guy - but no great personality - going to election against Fraser - then the labor party brought in Hawke to replace him. Seemed rather mean at the time but it had the desired result. Brutus could describe this one too.

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jeffreyw  Oct 27, 2017 • 5:57:50am

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Good morning!

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Sir John Barron  Oct 27, 2017 • 6:09:26am

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

I seriously think there are a lot of people on the right who would have preferred to have Hillary to beat up on for 8 years than deal with the shitstain that is Trump.

You seem to be ignoring all the very many, great, “accomplishments” of Trump, of which the wingnuts can be so proud.

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Citizen K  Oct 27, 2017 • 6:10:42am

re: #48 Sir John Barron

You seem to be ignoring all the very many, great, “accomplishments” of Trump, of which the wingnuts can be so proud.

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He’s helped make the country a place where it’s safe to white-knight for Nazis, White Supremacists, and KKKers.

I’m fairly sure they’re pleased as punch at that accomplishment.

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mmmirele  Oct 27, 2017 • 6:15:47am

re: #35 Eclectic Cyborg

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 27, 2017 • 6:19:01am

The news just sucks every darn day. Kinda hard to keep a positive outlook. Good advice-Don’t let the bastards get ya down.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 27, 2017 • 6:23:02am
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mmmirele  Oct 27, 2017 • 6:23:08am

Trump is up and Tweeting.

Apparently he is also watching Fox News. This tweet appears to be related to something Fox News ran.

ETA I’m not sure this is a really good use of money to try and get Trump impeached. But on the other hand, it just shows how incredibly thin-skinned Trump is. I had no idea who Tom Steyer was until Trump Tweeted about him.

And then Trump endorsed Joy Villa. And yes, she’s a hardcore Scientologist. tonyortega.org has lots more about her.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 27, 2017 • 6:28:01am

re: #53 mmmirele

Trump is up and Tweeting.

Apparently he is also watching Fox News. This tweet appears to be related to something Fox News ran.

Yeah, I have no idea who Steyer is either.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 27, 2017 • 6:28:52am

re: #49 Citizen K

He’s helped make the country a place where it’s safe to white-knight for Nazis, White Supremacists, and KKKers.

I’m fairly sure they’re pleased as punch at that accomplishment.

Trump’s made the libtards angry so MAGA!!!

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Citizen K  Oct 27, 2017 • 6:31:38am

re: #52 Dr. Matt

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Fake news. Obviously photoshopped by the liberal conspiracy to besmirch the image of the infamously temperate Trump. ////

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Citizen K  Oct 27, 2017 • 6:32:53am

re: #55 Sir John Barron

Trump’s made the libtards angry so MAGA!!!

I mean….yeah. Sadly that’s the only standard many have anymore: long as the “libtards” and the “other” suffer, it’s a success. Doesn’t matter how much they end up hurting because of it, long as their hated foes “lose”, they “win”, even when they end up losing just as much.

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2017 • 6:37:48am
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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 27, 2017 • 6:40:25am

Russia.
Nuclear snap drill, salvo launch, long range bombers with cruise missiles… End to end test as they say. Our guys at the pentagon must have had a busy day. As they should. But how will Trump react? My guess is minimally if at all. He won’t oppose Putin. thedrive.com

Nuclear posturing is becoming far more in vogue than it was just months ago, and it’s not just a foreign phenomenon. NATO just wrapped up a major nuclear exercise, which was clearly aimed at Russia whether they admit it or not. The Pentagon has also becoming far more cavalier when it comes to discussing, if not outright showcasing, its own nuclear capabilities and readiness in recent months. This attitude shift has even spilled over into social media.

With the relationship between the U.S. and Russia at an all time low and a potential conflict with North Korea brewing, not to mention a White House that seems far more casual about nuclear weaponry than past administrations and billions being funneled into new American nuclear weaponry, this “new normal” is likely to get even more pronounced, not less. Even China is becoming more inclined to brandish its strategic weaponry as of late.

But these drills, which likely were an “end to end” test of Russia’s nuclear weapons apparatus, including the complex command and control network that goes along with it, was an especially ominous display.

Now we’ll have to wait to see how Washington reacts.

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2017 • 6:41:14am

re: #32 Lupin

I also wonder how many of those callers are Russians. Adding to the volume, or initially creating it themselves, would be a way to further drive a wedge in the US.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 27, 2017 • 6:45:31am

re: #53 mmmirele

Trump is up and Tweeting.

Apparently he is also watching Fox News. This tweet appears to be related to something Fox News ran.

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I’ve been watching Leah Remini’s series exposing Scientology. I knew a little about the abuses, but never understood that everything CoS does is official POLICY — most of it from L. Ron Hubbard who could have been Alex Jones if he hadn’t created a new religion instead. The CoS basically is evil. No wonder Trump likes this woman.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 27, 2017 • 6:46:39am

re: #58 lawhawk

Well, this should be interesting to watch. Madrid will not be happy.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 6:50:01am

re: #62 wheat-dogg

Well, this should be interesting to watch. Madrid will not be happy.

I fear violence and civil war. And you know what, this is exactly what Putin wants.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 6:51:17am

re: #52 Dr. Matt

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If he was so touched by his brother’s alcoholism, why create a vodka brand?

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 27, 2017 • 6:51:32am

He apparently deleted/replaced the original

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2017 • 6:53:32am

re: #45 Citizen K

Objection. Assumes facts not in evidence.

Their continued religious fervor for tax cut gospel puts the lie to this every time.

talking about those GOP who would have preferred Hillary to kick around instead of having Trump to praise in the WH.

There are those who are starting to see that he could seriously damage their brand…he will walk away more famous than ever and leave them to clean up the mess, just like he did with his subcontractors after a bankruptcy.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 6:54:27am

re: #65 FormerDirtDart

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How his song made a difference? Most people I know even vets find that song tacky.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 27, 2017 • 6:59:57am

re: #63 HappyWarrior

I fear violence and civil war. And you know what, this is exactly what Putin wants.

The Spanish PM has asked the Senate to invoke a clause giving the national government broad powers to suppress Catalunya’s government, media and police, including removing the provincial governor from office. If that happens, shit is going to hit the fan somewhere.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:01:13am

re: #67 HappyWarrior

How his song made a difference? Most people I know even vets find that song tacky.

It’s given the GOP a failsafe theme song that the creator will never demand it not be used. Just about the only song, really.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:01:42am

re: #68 wheat-dogg

The Spanish PM has asked the Senate to invoke a clause giving the national government broad powers to suppress Catalunya’s government, media and police, including removing the provincial governor from office. If that happens, shit is going to hit the fan somewhere.

That’s not good.

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JordanRules  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:02:29am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:05:11am

re: #71 JordanRules

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Somehow I doubt the free peach brigade will rise to his defense. Free peach is only for Nazis and peroxide assholes like Milo.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:07:16am

Apparently, the Catalonian Parlament met in secret, and the opposition party was not present for the vote, so there may be some question how legal the secession vote was.

elpais.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:12:37am

re: #71 JordanRules

Clemson’s Student VP Impeached For Sitting During Pledge in Support of Kaepernick

Clemson is a public university (I just checked) but they are entitled to have their own rules and standards for behavior during the national anthem

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:15:41am

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Clemson is a public university (I just checked) but they are entitled to have their own rules and standards for behavior during the national anthem

Pledge not national anthem.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:17:57am

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Clemson is a public university (I just checked) but they are entitled to have their own rules and standards for behavior during the national anthem

That student VP has more courage than most of the Republicans sitting in Congress. He did something he probably expected would get him in trouble, but did it anyway.

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:20:16am

Seth gets big points for giving Lumpy a new nickname - ‘BMW Frankenstein.’

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Sea Mexican!  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:21:16am

re: #77 makeitstop

Seth gets big points for giving Lumpy a new nickname - ‘BMW Frankenstein.’

It will give Lumpy a well deserved rest.

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JordanRules  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:23:48am
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dangerman  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:25:25am

Bear along because this is important. I need a minute to get this off my chest because im a sucker for accuracy and everything lined up nice and neat.

It’s about nets. not butterfly nets or fishing nets. Accounting nets.

remember that bonehead comment SHS made the other day:

“The average American family would get a $4,000 raise under the President’s tax cut plan. So how could any member of Congress be against it?”

OK we all know it was wrong and why - sorta.

And then some smart twitters made an apple analogy:

“If I give 10 apples to one person and no apples to nine people, the average person has one apple. Why are nine people mad at me”

yes this was clever, and it isnt bad - as far as it goes - it’s short, sweet and simple and paints a good picture.

AND IT’S WAY WRONG. Wrong because it is too short and omits too much. And it legitimizes this “net gain” argument.

There are other moving parts here not just the one “what the average person gets”

There’s also what some people have to give up - this is the insidious, criminal part - the other side of the coin buried in the “average” $4k number

It’s not “I” giving 10 apples away to 10 people as if they fell from the government sky
Six of those apples were taken away from other people

Yes, this makes the analogy more complicated. and also more accurate. because it’s not even “an average $4000 raise”. Some people will have actual net losses

And some of those people who are giving up apples dont have any reserve apples of their own while others who are getting most of them ALREADY HAVE LOTS OF APPLES IN THEIR PERSONAL RESERVES.

I said six of those apples were taken away from other people. what about the other 4? Well it’s hard to show deficits in a simple analogy or picture. They are not yet grown, future, fictional apples, for lack of a better way to explain.

The real scenario has to include how many you started with, whether you gained or lost, how many you ended up with, and how many you need to, you know, eat and survive.

The real crime in her statement was not the use of averages. It was the unspoken netting of some pluses and some minuses. It was in not saying that part of those “raises” are paid for with other peoples actual pay cuts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:27:40am

re: #75 HappyWarrior

Pledge not national anthem.

I suspect the rule apples to any ritualistic display of patriotic fervor

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:28:01am

re: #80 dangerman

Bear along because this is important. I need a minute to get this off my chest because im a sucker for accuracy and everything lined up nice and neat.

It’s about nets. not butterfly nets or fishing nets. Accounting nets.

remember that bonehead comment SHS made the other day:

OK we all know it was wrong and why - sorta.

And then some smart twitters made an apple analogy:

yes this was clever, and it isnt bad - as far as it goes - it’s short, sweet and simple and paints a good picture.

AND IT’S WAY WRONG. Wrong because it is too short and omits too much. And it legitimizes this “net gain” argument.

There are other moving parts here not just the one “what the average person gets”

There’s also what some people have to give up - this is the insidious, criminal part - the other side of the coin buried in the “average” $4k number

It’s not “I” giving 10 apples away to 10 people as if they fell from the government sky
Six of those apples were taken away from other people

Yes, this makes the analogy more complicated. and also more accurate. because it’s not even “an average $4000 raise”. Some people will have actual net losses

And some of those people who are giving up apples dont have any reserve apples of their own while others who are getting most of them ALREADY HAVE LOTS OF APPLES IN THEIR PERSONAL RESERVES.

I said six of those apples were taken away from other people. what about the other 4? Well it’s hard to show deficits in a simple analogy or picture. They are not yet grown, future, fictional apples, for lack of a better way to explain.

The real scenario has to include how many you started with, whether you gained or lost, how many you ended up with, and how many you need to, you know, eat and survive.

The real crime in her statement was not the use of averages. It was the unspoken netting of some pluses and some minuses. It was in not saying that part of those “raises” are paid for with other peoples actual pay cuts.

Hillary Clinton, is that you? :)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:30:08am

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I suspect the rule apples to any ritualistic display of patriotic fervor

True.

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:32:04am

re: #82 Belafon

But you do have a good point, dangerman. I would shorten it to this: Start with the original 10 apple analogy, then start it over, by giving everyone an apple, and then take the apples from nine of them and give them to the tenth person.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:34:09am

re: #65 FormerDirtDart

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“Gawd Bless The USACSA…”

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JordanRules  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:36:52am
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wheat-dogg  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:38:30am

re: #84 Belafon

But you do have a good point, dangerman. I would shorten it to this: Start with the original 10 apple analogy, then start it over, by giving everyone an apple, and then take the apples from nine of them and give them to the tenth person.

Reminds me of the “two cows” analogies for economic systems. You have two cows. The government taxes your two cows, leaving you with ground round and some tongue, and gives the rest to another guy with 10 cows.

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:38:35am

re: #84 Belafon

But you do have a good point, dangerman. I would shorten it to this: Start with the original 10 apple analogy, then start it over, by giving everyone an apple, and then take the apples from nine of them and give them to the tenth person.

yeah i usually take the long way around because i dont re-edit

you are exactly right.
so it gets a bit more complicated
and that’s the problem:
while were fighting liars, spinners, attention span limits, and the “merely” irrational, truth often takes more than 140 characters

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Decatur Deb  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:39:04am

re: #84 Belafon

But you do have a good point, dangerman. I would shorten it to this: Start with the original 10 apple analogy, then start it over, by giving everyone an apple, and then take the apples from nine of them and give them to the tenth person.

Late to this game, but it looks like some of those apples are going to be borrowed apples. That’s not including the vast quantities of sauce and cider that will be sucked up by any significant war.

(A G4 Captain in 7th Army was dismayed to find he had been assigned the task of garbage management for an upcoming routine Reforger field exercise. He felt better when he found out his budget was $10,000,000.)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:40:10am

re: #88 dangerman

Dangerman, it sure is difficult to have a 140 character limit to explain complex situations. Meanwhile, Twitter gives their fellow travelers 280…

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wheat-dogg  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:40:19am

re: #86 JordanRules

I wonder if the kid bought some cocaine cut with fentanyl. Bad way to die, no matter if he knew it or not.

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Citizen K  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:40:52am
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dangerman  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:41:13am

re: #89 Decatur Deb

Late to this game, but it looks like some of those apples are going to be borrowed apples.
That’s not including the vast quantities of sauce and cider that will be sucked up by any significant war.

(A G4 Captain in 7th Army was dismayed to find he had been assigned the task of garbage management for an upcoming routine Reforger field exercise. He felt better when he found out his budget was $10,000,000.)

i did mention the last 4 were fictional apples “borrowed” from the future
making the original $4k tweet triply heinous

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:41:38am

re: #92 Citizen K

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Sigh shut up.

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:42:17am

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I suspect the rule apples to any ritualistic display of patriotic fervor

are you anticipating my apples analogy below? ;-)
er… above

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:42:32am

Jim Wright points us to an epic thread about Dinesh D’Felon.

Torn down, brick by miserable brick.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:43:08am

La mierda impacta el ventilador:

washingtonpost.com

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sagehen  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:44:35am

re: #26 Kragar

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“Only Twitter would be able to definitively reveal whether the accidentally copied-and-pasted API key belonged to Cambridge Analytica, according to Albright.”

Accidentally?

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:45:55am

re: #90 Joe Bacon 🌹

Dangerman, it sure is difficult to have a 140 character limit to explain complex situations. Meanwhile, Twitter gives their fellow travelers 280…

yeah - it’s a difficult medium that i dont use

i think the original tweet was effective and an effective use of twitter
you cant cover everything
and even if you do the multiple tweet stream you lose some people along the way

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Decatur Deb  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:47:39am

re: #99 dangerman

Twitter news is useful for lining the cages of Angry Birds.

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:48:14am

re: #92 Citizen K

This man is on your payroll, and is one among many on it that keep telling us an apple is a banana

so i give 10 apples to one person, the other nine think they were denied bananas, and ice cream has no bones.

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electrotek  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:49:32am

Statement from Jesse F Keeler of Death From Above 1979 and MSTRKRFT after revelations of his relationship with The Proud Boys’ Gavin McInnes:

Facebook Post

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:49:39am

re: #99 dangerman

yeah - it’s a difficult medium that i dont use

i think the original tweet was effective and an effective use of twitter
you cant cover everything
and even if you do the multiple tweet stream you lose some people along the way

And, believe me, TL;DR existed long before the internet. That’s why Reagan’s “welfare queen” comment worked so well.

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MsJ  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:50:23am

Just Say No (v2.0) or wind up in a private prison.

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MsJ  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:53:29am

re: #91 wheat-dogg

I wonder if the kid bought some cocaine cut with fentanyl. Bad way to die, no matter if he knew it or not.

I’m thinking nothing was cu, I’ll bet that this is a case where a party that went south.

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JordanRules  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:53:32am

Every platform had the same problems as Twitter this election, even the old
media ones.

Twitter has helped marginalized people get a voice and access.

All the new media platforms have a lot to clean up and learn. America has Nazis. You might have shit in your own family you need to help clean up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:54:41am

re: #104 MsJ

Largest private prison company in US moves annual meeting to Trump golf club

And nobody in the GOP is going to admit publicly that this is any sort of potential conflict of interest…

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Citizen K  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:56:05am

re: #106 JordanRules

Every platform had the same problems as Twitter this election, even the old
media ones.

Twitter has helped marginalized people get a voice and access.

All the new media platforms have a lot to clean up and learn. America has Nazis. You might have shit in your own family you need to help clean up.

I mean the problem doesn’t just seem to be that Twitter is taking too soft a hand with Nazis and the like. It’s that they seem to be actively coddling them and supporting them too. Twitter as a company seems to have far too many fellow travelers than is comfortable. Once again, at some point, it’s not laziness or fecklessness, but active complicity.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:59:43am

When in doubt use the black man’s booking photo

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:59:48am

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And nobody in the GOP is going to admit publicly that this is any sort of potential conflict of interest…

look what theyre doing to the weather service

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JordanRules  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:59:53am

re: #108 Citizen K

Same with Facebook and YouTube and Reddit. I agree and standby the rest of what I said. I see Twitter used and curated for nothing political all the time. There are people who have never encountered a Russian bot or Nazi on there.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 27, 2017 • 7:59:58am

How to send someone a fake email.

hackernoon.com

Includes this interesting bit of info:

The only thing truly stopping fake From addresses is email authentication using a standard called DMARC. But that only works if the domain you’re trying to fake has published a DMARC record and set it to an enforcement policy. Then, and only then, will almost all email servers that receive messages (Gmail, Yahoo Mail, etc.) block the faked emails.

Fortunately for fraudsters, most of the Internet’s domains haven’t done this yet. For example, only about 4% of .gov domains have protected themselves.

As for other 96%? Fraudsters can forge emails from those domains all day long with no repercussions.

Domains like justice.gov. house.gov. senate.gov. whitehouse.gov.

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MsJ  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:11:06am

Uhm…

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:12:54am

re: #108 Citizen K

I mean the problem doesn’t just seem to be that Twitter is taking too soft a hand with Nazis and the like. It’s that they seem to be actively coddling them and supporting them too. Twitter as a company seems to have far too many fellow travelers than is comfortable. Once again, at some point, it’s not laziness or fecklessness, but active complicity.

A lot of it is the libertarian position that much of white tech bro Silicon Valley culture operates from. There’s an endemic ideological tunnel vision that tends to equate freedom in the abstract with an absolutist tolerance of hateful and damaging supremacist ideologies. Compounding this is the fixation on automating everything, so when the toxicity becomes too much to ignore they try to find a way of coding it rather than admitting moderation needs to be done by people.

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:16:57am

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

A lot of it is the libertarian position that much of white tech bro Silicon Valley culture operates from. There’s an endemic ideological tunnel vision that tends to equate freedom in the abstract with an absolutist tolerance of hateful and damaging supremacist ideologies. Compounding this is the fixation on automating everything, so when the toxicity becomes to much to ignore they try to find a way of coding it rather than admitting moderation needs to be done by people.

Which is why it’s good we’re finding out now that AI can be made just as biased as people if we’re not careful.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:18:09am

Yeah, that’s gonna go over pretty well with the NFLPA leadership and members

“We can’t have the inmates running the prison,” Houston Texans owner Bob McNair said

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:19:35am

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

A lot of it is the libertarian position that much of white tech bro Silicon Valley culture operates from. There’s an endemic ideological tunnel vision that tends to equate freedom in the abstract with an absolutist tolerance of hateful and damaging supremacist ideologies. Compounding this is the fixation on automating everything, so when the toxicity becomes to much to ignore they try to find a way of coding it rather than admitting moderation needs to be done by people.

It’s natural for computer programmers to try to fix social problems with programs. It’s what we know. It could even work to make the job easier for people if done right.

For example, Facebook could do an automated search of the banner pictures that their users selected, and flag anything with a swastika for human review. They could ban most of the Nazis in a week easily that way. They could do the same with hate speech. There’s no reason to wait for users to flag problem content, when the system could easily do it with existing technology and a small staff to review the output of the automated process.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:20:21am

re: #116 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, that’s gonna go over pretty well with the NFLPA leadership and members

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That’s so much more sensitive than “Can’t have the field hands running the plantation.”

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William Lewis  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:22:16am

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

A lot of it is the libertarian position that much of white tech bro Silicon Valley culture operates from. There’s an endemic ideological tunnel vision that tends to equate freedom in the abstract with an absolutist tolerance of hateful and damaging supremacist ideologies. Compounding this is the fixation on automating everything, so when the toxicity becomes to much to ignore they try to find a way of coding it rather than admitting moderation needs to be done by people.

But in the end, however true this is, the reality is there are a fairly large number of obvious Nazi’s & their fellow travelers in positions of importance at all of the social media companies. The number may be something like 10% but if they’re in place ensuring that holocaust denial meme’s are unpunished and the like? Will the reddit closing of Nazi subredits be real or will it just be cosmetic and the same people will be allowed to set up new ones with less obvious names? My money is on the latter.

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:22:55am

Oh and greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. Trump’s busy tweeting up a storm, and he’s throwing in every lie and deflection as always:

Oh, and he congratulates the House GOPers responsible for massively cutting Medicare/Medicaid to fund his tax cuts (yeah, he personally benefits immensely):

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:26:10am
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Citizen K  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:28:20am

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

A lot of it is the libertarian position that much of white tech bro Silicon Valley culture operates from. There’s an endemic ideological tunnel vision that tends to equate freedom in the abstract with an absolutist tolerance of hateful and damaging supremacist ideologies. Compounding this is the fixation on automating everything, so when the toxicity becomes too much to ignore they try to find a way of coding it rather than admitting moderation needs to be done by people.

But then you have the cases of…well, there are Nazi accounts that are actually actively restricted and blocked in France and Germany because of the laws there. THey’re identified and there’s an algorithm that marks these people to be blocked. But then you have the flip where many are outright verified and given 280 anyhow. They already have the code to take care of this in many ways. They’re not only purposefully not using it unless demanded so by a national law, but they’re again actively catering to these folks. It’s not a matter of faulty coding or failure to game out the long-term results. There are active supporters on the meatspace side of things singling these assholes out to support them. This is beyond libertarian ‘live and let live’ faux idealism. This is prominent people in the company being fellow travelers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:31:01am

re: #116 FormerDirtDart

NFL owner on players protesting during the anthem: ‘We can’t have the inmates running the prison’

Just saying out loud what many of them have been thinking since this flap started

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Decatur Deb  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:33:32am

re: #102 electrotek

Statement from Jesse F Keeler of Death From Above 1979 and MSTRKRFT after revelations of his relationship with The Proud Boys’ Gavin McInnes:

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Much of this is “inside baseball”, but their link to Vice Media is disturbing. I’ve been watching the Vice News shows on HBO, and they come on as a bunch of young people doing really quality first-person journalism. Must dig a bit more.

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:33:44am

re: #117 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

But then they’d have to pay people to look at the pictures. And then those people might want to form a union.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:35:19am

re: #68 wheat-dogg

The Spanish PM has asked the Senate to invoke a clause giving the national government broad powers to suppress Catalunya’s government, media and police, including removing the provincial governor from office. If that happens, shit is going to hit the fan somewhere.

The shit will hit the fan sometime in the next 48 hours I figure. Maybe as soon as midnight tonight, European Time.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:35:45am

re: #125 Belafon

But then they’d have to pay people to look at the pictures. And then those people might want to form a union.

Those people might also have mental breakdowns from reviewing filth all day.
They could skip the people, and just ban anyone with a swastika in their header, but they might get some false-positives from people slamming Nazis in their header art.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:35:52am
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Decatur Deb  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:37:14am

re: #125 Belafon

But then they’d have to pay people to look at the pictures. And then those people might want to form a union.

For years been telling my kid, deep in the systems engineering racket, that the code monkeys should form a “guild”. He says it’s antithetical to the IT culture.

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Citizen K  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:37:54am

re: #129 Decatur Deb

For years been telling my kid, deep in the systems engineering racket, that the code monkeys should form a “guild”. He says it’s antithetical to the IT culture.

AT this rate, this should be seen as a positive.

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ObserverArt  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:40:26am

re: #63 HappyWarrior

I fear violence and civil war. And you know what, this is exactly what Putin wants.

A Spanish Civil War.

I think I have heard of them before.

Oh great.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:41:22am

re: #120 lawhawk

The Clinton - Russia collusion angle still makes zero fucking sense.

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:41:54am

re: #129 Decatur Deb

For years been telling my kid, deep in the systems engineering racket, that the code monkeys should form a “guild”. He says it’s antithetical to the IT culture.

I see that at my company. The aeronautical side is unionized. The software group I work in is not, and most of them are conservatives and would never join a union. But they take advantage of the benefits negotiated by the union.

I think being part of a C/C++ Union would be beneficial and a great pun.

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Citizen K  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:42:52am

re: #132 Mike Lamb

The Clinton - Russia collusion angle still makes zero fucking sense.

It makes all the sense in the world long as you remember one single abiding rule:

“Hillary, therefore evil.” It doesn’t have to make sense long as you assume the presence of Hillary automatically makes her the culprit and whatever hypothetical thing she did the grandest sin ever, even as you celebrate the exact same actions from someone non-Hillary.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:45:38am

Why would Hillary Clinton collude with Russia only to lose an election?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:46:08am

re: #133 Belafon

I see that at my company. The aeronautical side is unionized. The software group I work in is not, and most of them are conservatives and would never join a union. But they take advantage of the benefits negotiated by the union.

I think being part of a C/C++ Union would be beneficial and a great pun.

Teamsters picketing for latte breaks.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:46:14am

re: #134 Citizen K

It makes all the sense in the world long as you remember one single abiding rule:

“Hillary, therefore evil.” It doesn’t have to make sense long as you assume the presence of Hillary automatically makes her the culprit and whatever hypothetical thing she did the grandest sin ever, even as you celebrate the exact same actions from someone non-Hillary.

and Hilary was a sneaky criminal. Trump supporters are fine with a criminal who makes little effort to hide what he is doing because he knows his party will never call him out on it.

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:46:40am

re: #132 Mike Lamb

The Clinton - Russia collusion angle still makes zero fucking sense.

They want to make “watching videos about how the opposing football team plays” equal to “tap into the radios to find out their next play.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:48:27am

re: #135 Eclectic Cyborg

Why would Hillary Clinton collude with Russia only to lose an election?

Or with someone who by all accounts can’t stand her.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:50:04am

re: #121 lawhawk

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Except McConnell is as much a racist as Bannon, at least when it comes to African-Americans. They don’t all wear white sheets and speak openly of white supremacy; they are more polite in public and therefore more insidious.

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:52:03am

Natasha has been mentioning this all week. If I was a reporter for a major news outlet, I’d stay far away from this AMA. Smells like a big-time setup or phishing operation.

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JordanRules  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:52:35am

And there are more excerpts in the comments. Vile.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:53:29am

To summerise, “Government gives Whitefish money. Maybe Whitefish does work, maybe not. Probably not.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:54:49am

re: #142 JordanRules

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And there are more excerpts in the comments. Vile.

Taibbi has given me a bad vibe for some time.

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2017 • 8:57:42am

re: #142 JordanRules

And there are more excerpts in the comments. Vile.

The link goes to reddit. And I can’t look at the pictures. What kinds of things would they be putting in a memoir? And why are they writing one together? I would think I would leave seedy stuff out of a memoir.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:00:37am

re: #136 Decatur Deb

Teamsters picketing for latte breaks.

“Whadda we want?!”

“Pumpkin-spice lattes!!”

“When do we want it?!”

“Now!!!”

LOL.

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:01:09am

re: #125 Belafon

But then they’d have to pay people to look at the pictures. And then those people might want to form a union.

and have opinions
and use discretion (ie think for themselves)

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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:02:48am

re: #135 Eclectic Cyborg

Why would Hillary Clinton collude with Russia only to lose an election?

it just shows how bad of a candidate she was, she even fucked that up, man

it just shows that Trump is a true murkin hero! only he could safe us from the Clinton-russian-obama-muslim-gay-atheist alliance bent on destroying all we hold dear

Or…

It makes no fucking sense whatsoever and is simply an attempt to misdirect attention from the bad acts of the Trump campaign and administration, or to otherwise muddy the waters and set the stage to discredit any potential impeachment referral from the Mueller investigation.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:02:55am

re: #145 Belafon

The link goes to reddit. And I can’t look at the pictures. What kinds of things would they be putting in a memoir? And why are they writing one together? I would think I would leave seedy stuff out of a memoir.

Very racy things. Like pretty much bragging about sexually harassing the young women they worked with.

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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:04:05am

re: #138 Belafon

They want to make “watching videos about how the opposing football team plays” equal to “tap into the radios to find out their next play.”

So, they’re New England Patriot fans?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:04:21am

re: #142 JordanRules

Any company I’ve ever worked for, either here in the Czech Republic* or back in the US, a person would be fired right on the goddamn spot for that kind of shit.

* An old friend of my boss came in here a couple of years back and created an American-style HR department. It worked wonders - and she also created zero-tolerance policies for sexual harassment. Since then, she’s been consulting with Czech companies and their HR departments and instituting the same.

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:04:27am

re: #138 Belafon

They want to make “watching videos about how the opposing football team plays” equal to “tap into the radios to find out their next play.”

that’s a succinct winner - and in 139 characters!

sometimes it works

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:04:43am

re: #150 KGxvi

So, they’re New England Patriot fans?

Well Trump is friends with Brady, Belichick, and Kraft……..

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:05:47am

re: #143 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

To summerise, “Government gives Whitefish money. Maybe Whitefish does work, maybe not. Probably not.”

should start calling it “whitewash”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:06:04am

re: #151 Dr Lizardo

Any company I’ve ever worked for, either here in the Czech Republic* or back in the US, a person would be fired right on the goddamn spot for that kind of shit.

* An old friend of my boss came in here a couple of years back and created an American-style HR department. It worked wonders - and she also created zero-tolerance policies for sexual harassment. Since then, she’s been consulting with Czech companies and their HR departments and instituting the same.

It just sounds like a disgusting work environment. What the hell is wrong with some people? I’ve always gone out of my way to respect all my coworkers.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:08:06am

re: #155 HappyWarrior

…. What the hell is wrong with some people? ….

Raised by too many coaches and too few nuns.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:10:03am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:10:50am

re: #156 Decatur Deb

Raised by too many coaches and too few nuns.

Now that explains it. I was second hand raised by nuns- Dad being a product of pariochal school and having a father that treated his mother as an equal.

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I cannot.  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:11:54am

re: #129 Decatur Deb

Unions might be antithetical to IT culture…but Guilds are second nature to IT people…

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:12:35am

re: #154 dangerman

should start calling it “whitewash”

We could make Whitefishing the term for grifting the US government.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:13:04am

re: #159 I cannot.

Unions might be antithetical to IT culture…but Guilds are second nature to IT people…

So I thought. (Visions of Navigators and pain amplifiers)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:13:59am

re: #160 Belafon

We could make Whitefishing the term for grifting the US government.

Works so well for this admin especially.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:14:20am

re: #155 HappyWarrior

It just sounds like a disgusting work environment. What the hell is wrong with some people? I’ve always gone out of my way to respect all my coworkers.

I have no idea what sort of shit passes through people’s heads. Like you, I’ve always been highly respectful of my co-workers.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:15:26am

re: #154 dangerman

should start calling it “whitewash”

I’ve pretty much settled on “Crony Smilin’ Whitefish”

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:15:34am

re: #162 HappyWarrior

Works so well for this admin especially.

I bet there’s a lot of really good people in Whitefish, but that town’s name is going to be seriously tainted by this administration and certain people from it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:15:53am

re: #163 Dr Lizardo

I have no idea what sort of shit passes through people’s heads. Like you, I’ve always been highly respectful of my co-workers.

Yeah it’s just mind boggling. What the hell gave Taibbi the idea that this was acceptable behavior?

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:16:01am

re: #135 Eclectic Cyborg

Why would Hillary Clinton collude with Russia only to lose an election?

Why would Obama organize a fake mass killing of 20 first-graders, involving hundreds if not thousands of co-conspirators and nearly the entire American media, for the sole purpose of passing gun control legislation, and then be incapable of passing any gun-control?
Conspiracies theories often require participants to be simultaneously near omnipotent and completely incompetent.

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:16:18am

Whitefish also has the advantage of being easily converted into a verb.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:17:09am

re: #142 JordanRules

Is this news? Ames has been known scum for an age.

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:17:38am

re: #167 Ace-o-aces

It would have been far easier for Obama just to find the name of every Republican mistress, even if he has to arrange a few first.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:18:48am

It’s too bad congress is busy investigation 7 year-old debunked conspiracy theories.

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Jay C  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:21:13am

re: #97 wheat-dogg

La mierda impacta el ventilador:

washingtonpost.com

Sí. Verdad.

Hard to see how this ends well: Even taking all the “no-violence” pledges seriously, it’s hard to imagine that this sort of situation can be “resolved” with some measure of serious grief (even if only of the jail-time version) for the participants. It may not devolve into Spanish Civil War II - but it could become the political equivalent. Not good news.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:22:18am

re: #166 HappyWarrior

Yeah it’s just mind boggling. What the hell gave Taibbi the idea that this was acceptable behavior?

Sounds to me like Taibbi is one of those power-tripping assholes.

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MsJ  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:22:44am
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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:23:26am

re: #164 Eventual Carrion

I’ve pretty much settled on “Crony Smilin’ Whitefish”

And the song that Joanie wrote using the original term is highly applicable, too (NSFW language).

Joan Jett and the Blackhearts - Coney Island Whitefish

I warned you all the time to get yourself
In line, you never did it
I took you everywhere no one else could
Bear all your bullshit

Your headtrips were a bore I shoulda
Dumped ya long before, you’re a dim wit
When I took you out ya ugly, dirty mouth
Was like a sewer

All ya did was moan, so I left ya on your own
I said screw ya,
I put it to ya

Now you’re coming back tryin’ to
Get into the act ya fool ya
Ya think I’m stupid

Scumbag, scumbag - ya don’t leave well enough alone
Baby, you’re a scumbag you’re rotten to the core
You’re the biggest fool that I ever known

Everytime it seemed we had everything
We dreamed for the choosin’
You never had enough the way you
Made life rough sent me cruzin’
I gave a disposition ‘bout your rotten
Disposition you’re a loser and you’re losin’ ha ha

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:23:26am

Let’s see if we can start something: Private prison company moves luncheon to Trump golf course in hopes of whitefishing a deal.

How many companies are going to whitefish the US taxpayers?

Need to send this to some Democratic congressmembers, Ted Lieu for instance.

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Weaselone  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:23:51am

You’ve heard about the Whitewater Scandal, now comes the Whitefish Scandal. This time there’s actually meat to the story. Let’s see if the media gives it 1/1 billionth the attention.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:23:53am

re: #35 Eclectic Cyborg

CfwOA8W0gAelSDfTCbxJG/ZEl6ovDtvZS0tx3KQcEY1qbqGZM9R1rL4AeNwlwIIc8q8Ezfqdljst3bJqsfhWnGJxhDWA+qno

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Citizen K  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:26:29am

re: #177 Weaselone

You’ve heard about the Whitewater Scandal, now comes the Whitefish Scandal. This time there’s actually meat to the story. Let’s see if the media gives it 1/1 billionth the attention.

You know how it works: the coverage a political crime or scandal gets is inversely proportional to how much ‘there’ there is to the story, in addition to being proportional to how much Dem involvement there is or can be made out to be.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:26:59am

re: #174 MsJ

[Embedded content]

This isn’t goddamn normal.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:27:02am

re: #174 MsJ

I actually think he is…..either the early stages of Alzheimer’s or some other form of dementia.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:27:15am

It’s not an official, or legally required document pertaining to the MSgt’s retirement.
But, it is traditionally given to all of the command’s retiring members spouses.

If S&S won’t give you access, here’s a free link
Kirtland officer disciplined over same-sex marriage beliefs - Albuquerque Journal

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:28:04am

re: #182 FormerDirtDart

It’s not an official, or legally required document pertaining to the MSgt’s retirement.
But, it is traditionally given to all of the command’s retiring members spouses.

[Embedded content]

If S&S won’t give you access, here’s a free link
Kirtland officer disciplined over same-sex marriage beliefs - Albuquerque Journal

This is the kind of thing these bullshit religious “liberty” laws do.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:28:57am

re: #143 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

To summerise, “Government gives Whitefish money. Maybe Whitefish does work, maybe not. Probably not.”

*blink*

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:29:04am

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Dave In Austin  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:30:31am

Good morning from lovely Prescott, AZ. Bluebird skies and 75’.

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:31:09am

re: #164 Eventual Carrion

I’ve pretty much settled on “Crony Smilin’ Whitefish”

brilliant
and at the same time too subtle for most

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:32:51am

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

*blink*

I can understand Puerto Rico being under pressure to get help, but damn. Looks like they signed off on a really bad contract.

I’m wondering if there was any external pressure brought to bear.

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:34:44am

re: #180 HappyWarrior

This isn’t goddamn normal.

it is until tax cuts….

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Stanley Sea  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:38:01am

Filthy

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:38:26am

re: #182 FormerDirtDart

It’s not an official, or legally required document pertaining to the MSgt’s retirement.
But, it is traditionally given to all of the command’s retiring members spouses.

[Embedded content]

If S&S won’t give you access, here’s a free link
Kirtland officer disciplined over same-sex marriage beliefs - Albuquerque Journal

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:38:34am

re: #181 Dr Lizardo

I actually think he is…..either the early stages of Alzheimer’s or some other form of dementia.

Speaking of which…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:39:58am

re: #188 makeitstop

I can understand Puerto Rico being under pressure to get help, but damn. Looks like they signed off on a really bad contract.

I’m wondering if there was any external pressure brought to bear.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:40:51am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:42:23am

re: #190 Stanley Sea

Filthy

[Embedded content]

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:42:49am

re: #192 makeitstop

Speaking of which…

[Embedded content]

That rambling and repetitive speech was similar to my what my mom had in her early stages. She went downhill fast, to say the least. In two years from diagnosis, she was no longer able to speak. About 10 months after that, she became incontinent and required hospice care.

And not long after that, she passed away.

I can’t remember the name of the disease - it wasn’t Alzheimer’s, but something else and it was particularly aggressive and fast.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:44:22am

re: #129 Decatur Deb

For years been telling my kid, deep in the systems engineering racket, that the code monkeys should form a “guild”. He says it’s antithetical to the IT culture.

I am old enough to remember the uproar when GM acquired EDS back in the ‘80’s and all its IT employees were transferred to EDS and lost their seniority.

At one point the former GM IT workers threatened to join the UAW but then it would have meant “professional salaried” employees making common cause with blue collar workers.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:45:10am

re: #190 Stanley Sea

Filthy

[Embedded content]

And W Bush is campaigning for this guy. I appreciate him speaking out against Trump but his own former RNC chair is just as sleazy and channeling Trump big time here. Gillespie has become like Corey Stewart in his quest for power.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:45:31am

re: #174 MsJ

That whole article is terrifying. I’m not religious, but I’ve suspected for a while that the American right needs religion to hold their more vicious instincts in check. They don’t go for secular humanism.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:47:07am

re: #197 The Vicious Babushka

I…snikp
At one point the former GM IT workers threatened to join the UAW but then it would have meant “professional salaried” employees making common cause with blue collar workers.

Can’t have that.

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mmmirele  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:49:39am

re: #91 wheat-dogg

I wonder if the kid bought some cocaine cut with fentanyl. Bad way to die, no matter if he knew it or not.

My only first cousin on my mom’s side died in 1990 from mixing cocaine, alcohol and I don’t know what else. She was a 27 YO accountant living in San Francisco. It just broke my heart because she had such a great future ahead of her.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:49:56am

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

Another key finding:

Northam wins 93% of “strong liberals.”

Gillespie wins only 83% of strong conservatives.

It’s only a key finding if numbers of strong liberals/conservatives within the electorate are reasonably equal, and those numbers are a significant portion of the voters

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ObserverArt  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:50:57am

re: #154 dangerman

should start calling it “whitewash”

Mehbee…Whitewater.

Quick, call Ken Starr. He doesn’t much likey Donny. It’d be like ol’ times.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:52:16am

re: #201 mmmirele

My only first cousin on my mom’s side died in 1990 from mixing cocaine, alcohol and I don’t know what else. She was a 27 YO accountant living in San Francisco. It just broke my heart because she had such a great future ahead of her.

Coke and alcohol are a really bad combination. The coke will keep a person up and drinking (and babbling like an idiot) long after they would have passed out from the alcohol.

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TedStriker  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:56:24am

re: #196 Dr Lizardo

That rambling and repetitive speech was similar to my what my mom had in her early stages. She went downhill fast, to say the least. In two years from diagnosis, she was no longer able to speak. About 10 months after that, she became incontinent and required hospice care.

And not long after that, she passed away.

I can’t remember the name of the disease - it wasn’t Alzheimer’s, but something else and it was particularly aggressive and fast.

Lewy Body Dementia?

en.wikipedia.org

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:57:39am

re: #205 TedStriker

Lewy Body Dementia?

en.wikipedia.org

That’s what took Robin Williams.

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TedStriker  Oct 27, 2017 • 9:57:59am

re: #206 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That’s what took Robin Williams.

And Estelle Getty and Casey Kasem.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:00:26am

re: #207 TedStriker

And Estelle Getty and Casey Kasem.

I did not know that.

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Jay C  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:05:21am

re: #199 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That whole article is terrifying. I’m not religious, but I’ve suspected for a while that the American right needs religion to hold their more vicious instincts in check. They don’t go for secular humanism.

LOLWUT? You might be right on principle, but the reality is that the American Right (or a decidedly non-trivial percentage of it) uses religion not to “hold their more vicious instincts in check”, but to provide an easy, non-refutable rationale for said instincts, and as an excuse to enact them into public policy.
“Religion” in this country - or at least its political manifestations on the Right - seems to have become mainly a case of “who do you hate?” - with Divine approbation of said hate the default bottom-line…

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:06:21am

re: #205 TedStriker

Lewy Body Dementia?

en.wikipedia.org

It was frontotemporal dementia…..Pick’s Disease. I had to look it up. “Pick’s Disease” was what rang the bell.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:09:12am

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

I seriously think there are a lot of people on the right who would have preferred to have Hillary to beat up on for 8 years than deal with the shitstain that is Trump.

Rightwingers are getting a lot done despite Trump’s incompetence. He’s filling the courts with extremists, destroying Obama-era policies on the environment, civil rights, reproductive rights, etc. Rightwingers should be very happy at how much damage Trump has accomplished already with loads more to come.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:12:33am
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Skip Intro  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:12:34am

re: #211 Patricia Kayden

Some people seem to think it’s all Trump. It’s not.

He’s filled the WH with a cast of villains who are perfectly capable of destroying the country without him. As long they keep on his good side they’re free to do whatever they want, and they are.

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electrotek  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:13:45am
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Alephnaught  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:14:27am

re: #73 wheat-dogg

Apparently, the Catalonian Parlament met in secret, and the opposition party was not present for the vote, so there may be some question how legal the secession vote was.

elpais.com

More on that from The Guardian: the opposition were there, but largely refused to take part in the vote:

Dozens of opposition MPs boycotted the secret ballot, marching out of the chamber in Barcelona before it took place and leaving Spanish and Catalan flags on their empty seats in protest.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:15:57am

What a way to end the week…

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:16:44am

Complaining about the content of Twitter is like complaining you got bad gas in your Yugo.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:16:50am
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Charles Johnson  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:18:59am

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:19:34am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:20:32am

re: #220 Ace-o-aces

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Projection as always. But hey wasn’t Hillary just awful for calling them deplorable?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:20:33am

re: #209 Jay C

LOLWUT? You might be right on principle, but the reality is that the American Right (or a decidedly non-trivial percentage of it) uses religion not to “hold their more vicious instincts in check”, but to provide an easy, non-refutable rationale for said instincts, and as an excuse to enact them into public policy.
“Religion” in this country - or at least its political manifestations on the Right - seems to have become mainly a case of “who do you hate?” - with Divine approbation of said hate the default bottom-line…

Their alternative politicized version of Christianity is one of the symptoms of losing their religion and substituting toxic politics with religious trappings.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:23:13am

re: #216 Blind Frog Belly White

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Mike Lamb  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:26:56am

re: #220 Ace-o-aces

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The normalization of Trump’s “Lock Her Up” that allows Gorka’s comments of Hillary being executed to skate by largely unremarked is a bit frightening.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:28:10am

re: #205 TedStriker

Lewy Body Dementia?

en.wikipedia.org

Or Pick’s disease. Have handled cases with this…

en.wikipedia.org

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:29:50am

re: #225 Joe Bacon 🌹

Or Pick’s disease. Have handled cases with this…

en.wikipedia.org

It was Pick’s Disease that my mom got towards the end of her life.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:30:43am

re: #171 Ace-o-aces

PREPA approved it.

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Sea Mexican!  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:35:02am

re: #135 Eclectic Cyborg

Why would Hillary Clinton collude with Russia only to lose an election?

Because evil always loses, like in the movies.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:35:05am

re: #223 Stanley Sea

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MsJ  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:37:06am
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Alephnaught  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:37:09am

re: #199 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That whole article is terrifying. I’m not religious, but I’ve suspected for a while that the American right needs religion to hold their more vicious instincts in check. They don’t go for secular humanism.

Hmm, looking at their actions, I would think the exact opposite: that their professed beliefs are actually an excusing device for their worst impulses.

It doesn’t even need to make sense in an actual Christian religious context, it’s more like “How dare you condemn [Self evidently indefensible action] which are part of my Judeo-Christian Values (TM)!”, and that’s it.

As I said a few days ago, if they didn’t loudly profess their faith, then one would have to judge them by their actions, and the results wouldn’t be pretty. By their fruits you shall know them, and all that…

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:37:57am

re: #229 Blind Frog Belly White

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I get that too
“Oh, it’s just you”
Though in my case they are cats…

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:38:56am

re: #190 Stanley Sea

Filthy

I didn’t think Northam supported Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:39:02am

re: #230 MsJ

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I dunno. Maybe Kristol actually sees this as a real problem.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:39:10am

re: #230 MsJ

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It’s the vulgarity that upsets him. He wants Republicans to be polite as they dismantle our government.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:39:11am
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Ace-o-aces  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:39:22am

LITERALLY!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:39:24am

re: #233 Belafon

I didn’t think Northum supported Trump.

Northam is fighting back and I’m glad.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:41:08am

You do have to remember Kristol is a NRO com while Trump is a paleo com.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:41:27am

re: #229 Blind Frog Belly White

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:42:07am

Does Hillary still get SS protection or no?

If not, I hope she has some good private security.

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Kragar  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:43:11am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:43:51am

re: #241 Eclectic Cyborg

Does Hillary still get SS protection or no?

If not, I hope she has some good private security.

I think so given she’s a former presidential spouse.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:44:23am

re: #242 Kragar

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Uh Jack. I know you Trumpers aren’t that stupid.

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ObserverArt  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:45:45am

re: #244 HappyWarrior

Uh Jack. I know you Trumpers aren’t that stupid.

In Jack’s case I wouldn’t go so far as to say that.

And he’s young too. Just think of how many years he has to grow even more idiotic.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:45:53am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:47:05am

re: #246 Charles Johnson

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Your Dad has never criticized Putin. Face it Donald Jr, your father and entire family are crooked.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:47:14am

re: #237 Ace-o-aces

I had one of my more advanced students read Trump’s rambling, incoherent monologue about his uncle the nuclear scientist.

She thought it was a joke at first until I played the video for her.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:47:44am

JFC on a barbed wire tightrope

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:48:06am

re: #248 Dr Lizardo

I had one of my more advanced students read Trump’s rambling, incoherent monologue about his uncle the nuclear scientist.

She thought it was a joke at first until I played the video for her.

That was weird. He’s such an embarrassment.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:48:24am
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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:49:25am

Great, now I have to think about this when purchasing products:

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:49:53am

re: #249 The Vicious Babushka

JFC on a barbed wire tightrope

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The Radical RepubliKKKlans are laying the groundwork to indict the Clintons and put them on trial.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:50:26am

re: #253 Joe Bacon 🌹

The Radical RepubliKKKlans are laying the groundwork to indict the Clintons and put them on trial.

Appears that way.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:50:29am

re: #242 Kragar

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It’s nice to see nuts like that receive scathing replies.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:50:49am
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Skip Intro  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:51:07am
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ObserverArt  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:53:44am

re: #252 Shropshire Slasher

Great, now I have to think about this when purchasing products:

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That’s what a good MBA in business/marketing from an American university will get you if you go by the book.

Great ways to manipulate the thinking of your customer. No real need to worry about product development and engineering and all that. Make them think it is good and a value, even if it is not.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:53:49am

re: #249 The Vicious Babushka

JFC on a barbed wire tightrope

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Sounds like someone doesn’t know what “on the record” and “quid pro quo” means.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:54:16am

re: #250 HappyWarrior

That was weird. He’s such an embarrassment.

She speculated that maybe he’d suffered a small stroke at some point in the past and it was affecting his cognitive abilities….she mentioned that because the same thing had happened to her grandfather a few years back.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:55:14am

re: #260 Dr Lizardo

She speculated that maybe he’d suffered a small stroke at some point in the past and it was affecting his cognitive abilities….she mentioned that because the same thing had happened to her grandfather a few years back.

There’s definitely something going on. I mean he was always an obnoxious boob but now he’s an incoherent obnoxious boob.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:55:24am

re: #249 The Vicious Babushka

JFC on a barbed wire tightrope

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Victoria Toensing, the attorney representing the FBI informant, said there’s “on-the-record quid pro quo” surrounding the deal, with Bill Clinton receiving a $500,000 speaking fee from a Russian bank and the Clinton Foundation getting tens of millions of dollars from people interested in the Uranium One deal.

“My client can put some meat on those bones and tell you what the Russians were saying during that time,” Toensing said.

*sigh*

So your client is going to offer hearsay into the record, that he has nothing but his own personal recollection of what Russians were telling him. No documents, no files, no recordings, no video, NOTHING but his own memory.

Wait, I forgot, this case is being tried in the court of public opinion, where the rules of evidence don’t exist for the convenience the prosecution making whatever case it likes.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:56:51am

re: #262 Targetpractice

*sigh*

So your client is going to offer hearsay into the record, that he has nothing but his own personal recollection of what Russians were telling him. No documents, no files, no recordings, no video, NOTHING but his own memory.

Wait, I forgot, this case is being tried in the court of public opinion, where the rules of evidence don’t exist for the convenience the prosecution making whatever case it likes.

Hillary met with a Russian once. SHE’s A WITCH BURN HER. Numerous evidence of Trump and Trump associates colluding with Russia, whoa whoa this is the greatest witch hunt of all time.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:56:59am

re: #239 HappyWarrior

You do have to remember Kristol is a NRO com while Trump is a paleo com.

He’s a neocon who cares only about foreign policy. I doubt he has any interest in the cultural issues or even much concern about the economic issues. True neocons hate Trump’s foreign policy.

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:58:09am

re: #262 Targetpractice

The Russians were saying they were trying to get money to the Clinton foundation. They also said they tried to work with the Clinton campaign, but the campaign shunned them.

OTOH, they had success with the Trump campaign.

And it’s not one or the other.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:58:11am

we’ve spent the past year wondering how rump can continue to get away with such incredibly rancid crap. but this is looking at it the wrong way

rump’s popularity with his base won’t ever be fatally damaged unless he does something that people like us thoroughly approve of

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:58:12am

re: #264 Hecuba’s daughter

He’s a neocon who cares only about foreign policy. I doubt he has any interest in the cultural issues or even much concern about the economic issues. True neocons hate Trump’s foreign policy.

That’s what I am saying. I think the Neo-cons like Trump as much as I dislike their war eagerness do want to spread Democracy. Trump could care less about Democracy.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:59:04am

re: #249 The Vicious Babushka

From the article:

Victoria Toensing, the attorney representing the FBI informant”

Well, THERE’S your PROBLEM!!!
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:59:22am

re: #262 Targetpractice

*sigh*

So your client is going to offer hearsay into the record, that he has nothing but his own personal recollection of what Russians were telling him. No documents, no files, no recordings, no video, NOTHING but his own memory.

Wait, I forgot, this case is being tried in the court of public opinion, where the rules of evidence don’t exist for the convenience the prosecution making whatever case it likes.

Blast from the past—Sleazy Victoria who was one of the leaders of the Bill Clinton Zipper Hunt once again salivating over yet another chance to whizz on the Clintons!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 10:59:44am

re: #269 Joe Bacon 🌹

Blast from the past—Sleazy Victoria who was one of the leaders of the Bill Clinton Zipper Hunt once again salivating over yet another chance to whizz on the Clintons!

Now it all makes sense.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:00:21am

re: #261 HappyWarrior

There’s definitely something going on. I mean he was always an obnoxious boob but now he’s an incoherent obnoxious boob.

Yeah…..I dimly remember some of his TV appearances in the 1980’s and early ’90s and while he was insufferable even back then (I went back and double-checked earlier this year), he was quite coherent.

I think something did happen…..something that impaired him on the cognitive level. But what that was, I have no idea.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:01:08am

Actually, I suspect I know why the GOP so desperately wants to put this “informant” before the spotlight. They know that what he “heard” in Russia won’t make much difference, but instead what they’re angling for is for him to say he went to his superiors with this info and they “shut him down” or some similar verbiage to suggest his bosses were in on a “cover-up.”

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Interesting Times  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:01:33am

This just happened in Canada (province of Ontario, to be precise), but I’m mainly posting it for the protest sign:

Facebook Post

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:01:53am

re: #271 Dr Lizardo

Yeah…..I dimly remember some of his TV appearances in the 1980’s and early ’90s and while he was insufferable even back then (I went back and double-checked earlier this year), he was quite coherent.

I think something did happen…..something that impaired him on the cognitive level. But what that was, I have no idea.

RIght, I remember as a child in the 90’s. He was always insufferable and a male Paris Hilton (famous for being famous) but he made sense. The past 8 years he’s been downright crazy and incoherent.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:03:25am

I hate everyone connected with this rotten administration. The Republican Party needs to answer for this.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:05:57am

You got Reagan’s signs of mental decay. Nixon’s contempt for anyone who disagrees with him. And his own disgusting cronyism and clear preference for tyrants over Democratically elected leaders.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:06:24am

re: #274 HappyWarrior

RIght, I remember as a child in the 90’s. He was always insufferable and a male Paris Hilton (famous for being famous) but he made sense. The past 8 years he’s been downright crazy and incoherent.

The thing is, to the best of my knowledge, no one knows if he’s ever been hospitalized. You would think something like that would make the gossip columns, especially in NYC, but it’s possible that if something did happen, he just threw some hush money at it to make sure it never saw the light of day. And most likely, he’d have some totally hush-hush private medical facility he would go to.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:08:01am

re: #277 Dr Lizardo

The thing is, to the best of my knowledge, no one knows if he’s ever been hospitalized. You would think something like that would make the gossip columns, especially in NYC, but it’s possible that if something did happen, he just threw some hush money at it to make sure it never saw the light of day. And most likely, he’d have some totally hush-hush private medical facility he would go to.

It could be just plain old Alzheimers that was never diagnosed. From what I recall this does run in his family.

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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:08:05am

re: #241 Eclectic Cyborg

Does Hillary still get SS protection or no?

If not, I hope she has some good private security.

Under the Former Presidents Act, former presidents, first ladies, and children under 16 are entitled to secret service protection. Presidents and first ladies get it for life. Nixon has been the only one to relinquish the post-presidency protections

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:08:42am
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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:08:45am

re: #242 Kragar

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I just read most of that thread. The level of ignorance and delusion is just…stupefying.

Trump cultists have ready-made excuses for everything. That Deep State are some busy mofos.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:09:43am

re: #280 Ace-o-aces

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I’ll take his actions over people who think you can’t be Antisemitic if you like Bibi and Israel.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:10:19am

re: #275 HappyWarrior

I hate everyone connected with this rotten administration. The Republican Party needs to answer for this.

You know, I was pondering the idea - as the Czech Republic’s current president (a hard-drinking, chain-smoking kook) is well past 70 years old and is simply no longer fit for office - that, well, and I certainly mean no disrespect to the older Lizards here, maybe we need a constitutionally-mandated upper-age limit to serve as POTUS. Something like no one past 65……once you turn 65, you finish out your term, and that’s that.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:10:45am

re: #281 makeitstop

I just read most of that thread. The level of ignorance and delusion is just…stupefying.

Trump cultists have ready-made excuses for everything. That Deep State are some busy mofos.

I make the mistake of reading comments all the time and I just wonder what planet these people live on that Trump is a gentleman and devoid of ethical problems.

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Renaissance_Man  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:11:00am

re: #278 HappyWarrior

It could be just plain old Alzheimers that was never diagnosed. From what I recall this does run in his family.

He’s 70. He wasn’t especially smart to start with. And he’s watched a lot of FOX, which only makes your thinking lazier. I see a lot of people who are old, have some dementia, and watch a lot of FOX. That’s what they sound like. If they had been used to a lifetime of speaking in empty generalities and hyperbole, they’d sound exactly like him, as he tries to bluster the same way he did as a young man except with more confusion.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:11:20am

re: #278 HappyWarrior

It could be just plain old Alzheimers that was never diagnosed. From what I recall this does run in his family.

Yeah, just run-of-the-mill early-stage Alzheimer’s. His father died from it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:11:43am

re: #283 Dr Lizardo

You know, I was pondering the idea - as the Czech Republic’s current president (a hard-drinking, chain-smoking kook) is well past 70 years old and is simply no longer fit for office - that, well, and I certainly mean no disrespect to the older Lizards here, maybe we need a constitutionally-mandated upper-age limit to serve as POTUS. Something like no one past 65……once you turn 65, you finish out your term, and that’s that.

I can’t see that working honestly.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:11:52am

re: #280 Ace-o-aces

“Antisemitic attacks against Bannon”? His background is Irish. Wouldn’t they be Anti-Hibernian?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:12:07am

re: #285 Renaissance_Man

He’s 70. He wasn’t especially smart to start with. And he’s watched a lot of FOX, which only makes your thinking lazier. I see a lot of people who are old, have some dementia, and watch a lot of FOX. That’s what they sound like. If they had been used to a lifetime of speaking in empty generalities and hyperbole, they’d sound exactly like him, as he tries to bluster the same way he did as a young man except with more confusion.

True, true.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:12:55am

re: #288 Blind Frog Belly White

“Antisemitic attacks against Bannon”? His background is Irish. Wouldn’t they be Anti-Hibernian?

I think that’s phrased badly. They’re addressing attacks that suggest Bannon is Antisemitic. And don’t remind me that Bannon and I come from the same tribe. Not to mention he’s from my state too.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:14:15am

re: #282 HappyWarrior

I’ll take his actions over people who think you can’t be Antisemitic if you like Bibi and Israel.

Hey, remember when Bibi was so hot to attacks Palestinians, he ended up defending Hitler?

cnn.com

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:15:03am

re: #268 Blind Frog Belly White

From the article:

Well, THERE’S your PROBLEM!!!
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Really.

I wonder if her scum husband DeGenova is lurking somewhere.

It’s like the Whitewater Crew are getting the band back together.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:16:23am

re: #291 Ace-o-aces

Hey, remember when Bibi was so hot to attacks Palestinians, he ended up defending Hitler?

cnn.com

I had actually forgotten that. Man I cannot stand Bibi. Israel will be better off when he’s gone and hopefully in jail.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:17:05am

re: #287 HappyWarrior

I can’t see that working honestly.

Probably not. I’ve mentioned the idea to a few of my students, and most of them responded quite enthusiastically to the notion. Of course, President Zeman is extraordinarily polarizing here, and most of the students I deal with - professional, highly-educated, widely-travelled - despise Zeman and consider him a foul-mouthed, alcoholic bigot who makes the Czech Republic look bad.

Of course, the potential new government of oligarch Andrej Babiš - and possibly the fanatical xenophobe Tomio Okamura as a silent unofficial partner in a minority government - makes more than a few of my students scream in abject horror.

Mostly because Okamura’s big priority is a “Czexit” out-of-the-EU referendum. And I’d give it a damned good chance of passing.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:17:31am

re: #292 makeitstop

Really.

I wonder if her scum husband DeGenova is lurking somewhere.

It’s like the Whitewater Crew are getting the band back together.

And this to be honest while I fully supported Hillary for much of the primaries and for the entire GE campaign was worried about nominating and electing her. She inspires a lot of hate from these assholes. Now that said, she would have been a better president than Sanders and that alone was my reason for prefering her over him and still doing so.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:19:06am

re: #294 Dr Lizardo

Probably not. I’ve mentioned the idea to a few of my students, and most of them responded quite enthusiastically to the notion. Of course, President Zeman is extraordinarily polarizing here, and most of the students I deal with - professional, highly-educated, widely-travelled - despise Zeman and consider him a foul-mouthed, alcoholic bigot who makes the Czech Republic look bad.

Of course, the potential new government of oligarch Andrej Babiš - and possibly the fanatical xenophobe Tomio Okamura as a silent unofficial partner in a minority government - makes more than a few of my students scream in abject horror.

Mostly because Okamura’s big priority is a “Czexit” out-of-the-EU referendum. And I’d give it a damned good chance of passing.

Wasn’t the previous Czech President, Vaclav Klaus a big boob too? I remember a friend of mine getting him mixed up with Havel. Hate seeing this happen in the CR. Always did like my grandmother’s sister country and they gave the Rusyn people a lot more autonomy than a lot of countries have.

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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:19:48am

re: #283 Dr Lizardo

You know, I was pondering the idea - as the Czech Republic’s current president (a hard-drinking, chain-smoking kook) is well past 70 years old and is simply no longer fit for office - that, well, and I certainly mean no disrespect to the older Lizards here, maybe we need a constitutionally-mandated upper-age limit to serve as POTUS. Something like no one past 65……once you turn 65, you finish out your term, and that’s that.

The median age for presidents when they took office is 55. A 65 age limit would have prevented Trump, Reagan, Harrison, and Buchanan from serving when they did. It would have also prevented GHW Bush, Eisenhower, Taylor, Jackson, and John Adams from seeking a second term.

We tend to elect men in their 50s for the job (25 presidents were in their 50s when they took office). Even if you hold it to the “modern” presidency (post FDR), it’s been mostly mid-50s, early-60s with Kennedy, Clinton, and Obama bringing down the average.

I don’t think the issue with Trump is particularly his age, it’s everything else. Hell, Hillary Clinton is only 15 months or so younger than Trump.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:21:09am

re: #284 HappyWarrior

I make the mistake of reading comments all the time and I just wonder what planet these people live on that Trump is a gentleman and devoid of ethical problems.

The end result of 40 years of brainwashing by the RepubliKKKlan 24/7 Bullshit Machine…

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:22:08am

re: #296 HappyWarrior

Wasn’t the previous Czech President, Vaclav Klaus a big boob too? I remember a friend of mine getting him mixed up with Havel. Hate seeing this happen in the CR. Always did like my grandmother’s sister country and they gave the Rusyn people a lot more autonomy than a lot of countries have.

Vaclav Klaus was - and is - an outright wingnut. Unfortunately, there’s wingnuts here too, the majority of them being older than 55, with only secondary education and typically residing in small towns or villages. And frankly, that’s well above 50% of the population.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:23:16am

re: #297 KGxvi

The median age for presidents when they took office is 55. A 65 age limit would have prevented Trump, Reagan, Harrison, and Buchanan from serving when they did. It would have also prevented GHW Bush, Eisenhower, Taylor, Jackson, and John Adams from seeking a second term.

We tend to elect men in their 50s for the job (25 presidents were in their 50s when they took office). Even if you hold it to the “modern” presidency (post FDR), it’s been mostly mid-50s, early-60s with Kennedy, Clinton, and Obama bringing down the average.

I don’t think the issue with Trump is particularly his age, it’s everything else. Hell, Hillary Clinton is only 15 months or so younger than Trump.

That’s a good point. Only lunatics argue that Hillary would’ve been worse than Trump.

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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:23:17am

re: #299 Dr Lizardo

Vaclav Klaus was - and is - an outright wingnut. Unfortunately, there’s wingnuts here too, the majority of them being older than 55, with only secondary education and typically residing in small towns or villages. And frankly, that’s well above 50% of the population.

That seems to be a common thread among wingnuts… less educated boomers living in exurban or rural areas.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:23:50am

YouTube

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sagehen  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:23:54am

re: #183 HappyWarrior

This is the kind of thing these bullshit religious “liberty” laws do.

They’re not religious liberty laws; they’re Evangelical/Catholic Privilege laws.

Easy way to prove it:

Catholic doctor and nurse at Mt Sinai refuse to participate in an abortion (even if it’s medically necessary, and the woman and fetus both die because it wasn’t done) — can’t be fired, their religious conscience supersedes hospital policy or medical ethics.

Jewish doctor and nurse at St Mary’s hospital perform an abortion (because it’s medically necessary, and the woman and fetus will both die because if it isn’t done) — fired instantly, hospital policy supersedes their religious conscience and medical ethics.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:24:20am

re: #301 KGxvi

That seems to be a common thread among wingnuts… less educated boomers living in exurban or rural areas.

Yeah it does. My Dad thankfully is an exception but he’s rare.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:24:43am

re: #299 Dr Lizardo

Vaclav Klaus was - and is - an outright wingnut. Unfortunately, there’s wingnuts here too, the majority of them being older than 55, with only secondary education and typically residing in small towns or villages. And frankly, that’s well above 50% of the population.

Very unfortunate yet not surprising.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:25:21am

re: #288 Blind Frog Belly White

“Antisemitic attacks against Bannon”? His background is Irish. Wouldn’t they be Anti-Hibernian?

I think they mean accusations of Bannon being anti-Semitic. You know, like being called a “racist” is TEH WORSER THEN RACISM. IT WORSER THEN SLAVERYS EVEN!!!11!!!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:25:33am

re: #303 sagehen

They’re not religious liberty laws; they’re Evangelical/Catholic Privilege laws.

Easy way to prove it:

Catholic doctor and nurse at Mt Sinai refuse to participate in an abortion (even if it’s medically necessary, and the woman and fetus both die because it wasn’t done) — can’t be fired, their religious conscience supersedes hospital policy or medical ethics.

Jewish doctor and nurse at St Mary’s hospital perform an abortion (because it’s medically necessary, and the woman and fetus will both die because if it isn’t done) — fired instantly, hospital policy supersedes their religious conscience and medical ethics.

That’s why I used quotes. They’re not liberty laws. They’re exactly what you said.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:29:15am

re: #306 The Vicious Babushka

I think they mean accusations of Bannon being anti-Semitic. You know, like being called a “racist” is TEH WORSER THEN RACISM. IT WORSER THEN SLAVERYS EVEN!!!11!!!

Honest to god, it’s like the entire GOP adopted the PeeWee Herman “I know you are, but what am I?” defense.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:29:44am

re: #302 Blind Frog Belly White

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So let me see if I’ve got this straight: The White House who insists that Hillary had total knowledge of an FBI investigation that didn’t even conclude until 2 years after she left office was totally in the dark about a $300 million no-bid contract to repair PR’s infrastructure.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:30:51am

re: #301 KGxvi

That seems to be a common thread among wingnuts… less educated boomers living in exurban or rural areas.

Yep.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:31:01am

re: #308 Blind Frog Belly White

Honest to god, it’s like the entire GOP adopted the PeeWee Herman “I know you are, but what am I?” defense.

You’re the puppet!

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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:31:30am

re: #300 Dr Lizardo

That’s a good point. Only lunatics argue that Hillary would’ve been worse than Trump.

While I think the age cap is probably a bad idea, I wouldn’t mind seeing new blood in our body politic. It’s been kind of frustrating lately in California when we’ve had Barbara Boxer and Diane Fienstein in the Senate since I was in high school and the second act of Jerry Brown who was governor before I was in kindergarten.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:32:06am

re: #310 Dr Lizardo

Yep.

I’m honestly lucky that none of my close family have embraced Trumpism. My folks can’t stand him, ditto my brothers, aunts, uncles, & lone grandparent.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:33:05am

re: #312 KGxvi

While I think the age cap is probably a bad idea, I wouldn’t mind seeing new blood in our body politic. It’s been kind of frustrating lately in California when we’ve had Barbara Boxer and Diane Fienstein in the Senate since I was in high school and the second act of Jerry Brown who was governor before I was in kindergarten.

You have Harris now but point made. I’m open to new blood but I don’t like the idea of mandating it either.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:33:19am

re: #312 KGxvi

While I think the age cap is probably a bad idea, I wouldn’t mind seeing new blood in our body politic. It’s been kind of frustrating lately in California when we’ve had Barbara Boxer and Diane Fienstein in the Senate since I was in high school and the second act of Jerry Brown who was governor before I was in kindergarten.

Well, we could have Kamala Harris or Cory Booker, but they’re not One Particular Old White Guy enough for the Left.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:33:54am

re: #312 KGxvi

While I think the age cap is probably a bad idea, I wouldn’t mind seeing new blood in our body politic. It’s been kind of frustrating lately in California when we’ve had Barbara Boxer and Diane Fienstein in the Senate since I was in high school and the second act of Jerry Brown who was governor before I was in kindergarten.

I remember Feinstein from my childhood. She became Mayor of San Francisco after Moscone (and Harvey Milk) was killed by Dan White. I still remember seeing her on the news, as that was obviously a huge story in California at the time.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:35:39am

re: #315 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, we could have Kamala Harris or Cory Booker, but they’re not One Particular Old White Guy enough for the Left.

Yeah I see people pushing him in 2020. He’s not the future. He has no idea how to reach key parts of the Dem base that are growing.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:35:49am

re: #302 Blind Frog Belly White

Actually, I belIeve this because it honestly seems like no one in the White House has a fucking clue what is going on around them.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:36:37am

Both of Virgina’s senators are guys I’ve voted for in their initial terms and in Kaine’s case for governor.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:36:56am

Just coming over the wire that the Catalan Parliament has been formally dissolved and snap elections will be held to “recover normality” in the region.

bbc.com

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:39:25am

Grassley, acting like your shouty uncle over the JFK files…

MOAR COVERUP!!!!!11!

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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:40:02am

re: #315 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, we could have Kamala Harris or Cory Booker, but they’re not One Particular Old White Guy enough for the Left.

I don’t think OPOWG is going to be a factor in 2020. He caught fire because there was simply no field in 2016. We saw in 2008 that there was a portion of the party that wasn’t very supportive of Hillary Clinton, and it shouldn’t have surprised anyone that something similar would happen in 2016. The problem was that there weren’t any legitimate challengers because of senate and governor results in 2012 and 2014. In a larger, more traditional field, OPOWG would have been Dennis Kucinich rather than a viable alternative.

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Kragar  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:41:05am

Coworker has sent me an email, “Check these things while I’m out of the office.”

She gave me the incorrect job ID for the first thing.
She ran the incorrect job ID for the second thing.
She forgot to list one of the job ID she needed me to check, but I caught it because I actually check the fricking report logs.

The only reasons she is still around is the team lead feels sorry them, and she is in the main office, so they want to keep her around so management can see our team every day, since the majority of us work at other sites

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William Lewis  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:42:31am

re: #283 Dr Lizardo

You know, I was pondering the idea - as the Czech Republic’s current president (a hard-drinking, chain-smoking kook) is well past 70 years old and is simply no longer fit for office - that, well, and I certainly mean no disrespect to the older Lizards here, maybe we need a constitutionally-mandated upper-age limit to serve as POTUS. Something like no one past 65……once you turn 65, you finish out your term, and that’s that.

I wish. No different than airline pilots for example. But I can’t see it getting anywhere near passage in the congress much less getting sufficient support in the states because that would have to be an amendment.

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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:43:09am

re: #321 makeitstop

Grassley, acting like your shouty uncle over the JFK files…

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MOAR COVERUP!!!!!11!

In fairness, they’ve known this deadline was coming for 25 years, the last minute “NO WE NEED THIS TO BE KEPT SECRET” is… strange.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:44:13am

re: #322 KGxvi

I don’t think OPOWG is going to be a factor in 2020. He caught fire because there was simply no field in 2016. We saw in 2008 that there was a portion of the party that wasn’t very supportive of Hillary Clinton, and it shouldn’t have surprised anyone that something similar would happen in 2016. The problem was that there weren’t any legitimate challengers because of senate and governor results in 2012 and 2014. In a larger, more traditional field, OPOWG would have been Dennis Kucinich rather than a viable alternative.

I think so too. I see him being a non factor in 2020. A lot more of his flaws will be exposed this time.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:44:29am

re: #325 KGxvi

In fairness, they’ve known this deadline was coming for 25 years, the last minute “NO WE NEED THIS TO BE KEPT SECRET” is… strange.

Have to agree.

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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:44:34am

re: #320 Dr Lizardo

Just coming over the wire that the Catalan Parliament has been formally dissolved and snap elections will be held to “recover normality” in the region.

bbc.com

Something tells me that isn’t going to help.

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ObserverArt  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:44:51am

re: #302 Blind Frog Belly White

The Hill ✔@thehill
JUST IN: White House was “not aware” of massive Puerto Rico contract given to tiny company from Zinke’s hometown hill.cm
1:43 PM - Oct 27, 2017

Video

They are not aware of a lot of stuff.

Not only are they corrupt, they are rank amateurs at it.

Their bumbling would be funny in a sitcom…not so much in reality.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:46:20am

re: #328 KGxvi

Something tells me that isn’t going to help.

I highly doubt it will get to the level of the Spanish Civil War. Maybe a lot of shouting and some bottle or cobblestone throwing, but that’s about it.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:47:07am

re: #321 makeitstop

Grassley, acting like your shouty uncle over the JFK files…

[Embedded content]

MOAR COVERUP!!!!!11!

Whatever happened to “the President can de-classify anything at anytime” like we heard when he spilled intel to the Russian diplomat in the Oval?

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Mike Lamb  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:48:21am

re: #329 ObserverArt

They are not aware of a lot of stuff.

Not only are they corrupt, they are rank amateurs at it.

Their bumbling would be funny in a sitcom…not so much in reality.

Let’s just stipulate that they knew nothing. What are they going to do now? You going to support investigations?

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Stanley Sea  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:49:42am

re: #323 Kragar

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:50:45am

re: #325 KGxvi

In fairness, they’ve known this deadline was coming for 25 years, the last minute “NO WE NEED THIS TO BE KEPT SECRET” is… strange.

I read that Trump wanted to get his hands on it before it was released. Probably so he can brag that he ‘personally’ released them.

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Kragar  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:51:08am
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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:52:25am

re: #320 Dr Lizardo

he called the situation “sad”

Damn, I am getting sick of the use of this word.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:52:53am

Gets better, they’re not only pleading ignorance, they’re blaming the PR gov’t for the contract:

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:53:40am

yada yada barbed wire tightrope yada yada

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:55:23am

re: #337 Targetpractice

Because PREPA did approve the contract.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:57:27am

re: #130 Citizen K

AT this rate, this should be seen as a positive.

At the turn of the century I had been working to create and build an Association of Internet Professionals, AIP. We had 10,000+ dues-paid members and then the crash hit. We were considering it a guild, in fact one of the small organizations that we brought Into our fold called itself a guild.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:59:50am

Ugh…fuck Sarah Huckabee Sanders, fuck Donald Trump and fuck this whole sorry fucking excuse for a fucking administration.

Apologies for the excessive F bombs but I CANNOT STAND THESE PEOPLE.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 11:59:58am

re: #337 Targetpractice

Gets better, they’re not only pleading ignorance, they’re blaming the PR gov’t for the contract:

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Surrrre.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:00:25pm

re: #341 Eclectic Cyborg

Ugh…fuck Sarah Huckabee Sanders, fuck Donald Trump and fuck this whole sorry fucking excuse for a fucking administration.

Apologies for the excessive F bombs but I CANNOT STAND THESE PEOPLE.

Let it fly. I totally hear ya.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:01:05pm

re: #322 KGxvi

I don’t think OPOWG is going to be a factor in 2020. He caught fire because there was simply no field in 2016. We saw in 2008 that there was a portion of the party that wasn’t very supportive of Hillary Clinton, and it shouldn’t have surprised anyone that something similar would happen in 2016. The problem was that there weren’t any legitimate challengers because of senate and governor results in 2012 and 2014. In a larger, more traditional field, OPOWG would have been Dennis Kucinich rather than a viable alternative.

I’m not so sure. Sanders Deadenders really are a cult of personality, and this is driving the ‘Left vs Liberal’ fight more than anything else.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:01:27pm
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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:01:53pm

re: #343 gocart mozart

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Video

Interesting treatment. About as far from the original as you could get.

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:02:04pm

A woman here at work is wearing a shirt at work that says “Maybe CUSSIN’ will help.”

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Kragar  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:02:36pm
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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:03:08pm

re: #348 Belafon

A woman here at work is wearing a shirt at work that says “Maybe CUSSIN’ will help.”

Works for me.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:03:26pm

re: #348 Belafon

A woman here at work is wearing a shirt at work that says “Maybe CUSSIN’ will help.”

I like her already.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:04:06pm

re: #339 Shropshire Slasher

Because PREPA did approve the contract.

How much choice did they have? A no bid contract awarded to Zinke’s neighbor. They probably felt he had them over a barrel.

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:04:19pm

re: #157 FormerDirtDart

McNair, a Trump supporter, is letting you know exactly what he thinks of the players that work for him.

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:05:17pm

re: #347 makeitstop

Interesting treatment. About as far from the original as you could get.

I really like that he kept Clapton’s reference to ‘Blue Moon’ in the solo!

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:06:14pm

re: #353 goddamnedfrank

There were other bidders, Whitefish required the least for mobilization.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:07:13pm
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:07:53pm

re: #354 lawhawk

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McNair, a Trump supporter, is letting you know exactly what he thinks of the players that work for him.

Fun fact: In that scene from Django Unchained, the one in the gif, DiCaprio really did cut his hand quite badly - he stayed in character and kept going and they got the scene. That’s real blood. He went for stitches afterwards.

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:09:36pm

re: #356 Shropshire Slasher

There were other bidders, Whitefish required the least for mobilization.

Because they had no one?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:09:49pm

re: #334 makeitstop

I read that Trump wanted to get his hands on it before it was released. Probably so he can brag that he ‘personally’ released them.

It sure wouldn’t be because he would actually read it.

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gocart mozart  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:09:56pm

re: #355 makeitstop

Got an extra ticket if you can make it to Connecticut by 9:00 tonight
Fall Jazz Series: Dave Stryker
palacetheaterct.org

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The Major  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:09:58pm

The New Yorker: Why Roy Moore’s Law-School Professor Nicknamed Him Fruit Salad

George Thomas Wilson, a retired magazine-marketing and P.R. professional now living in New York City, has never forgotten his first criminal-law class, at the University of Alabama School of Law, in 1974. It was taught by Clint McGee, who graduated from the law school himself, in 1940. Early in the class, McGee called on one of Wilson’s classmates, a United States Military Academy graduate named Roy Moore. “And, for the entire hour, McGee kept him standing and talking, standing and talking,” Wilson told me recently. “Finally, at the end of the hour, McGee said to him, ‘Mr. Moore, I have been teaching in this school for thirty years, and in all of that time you’re the most mixed-up person I’ve ever taught. I’m going to call you Fruit Salad.”
John D. Saxon, a civil-rights attorney practicing in Birmingham, also took McGee’s class. He confirmed Wilson’s account. “We’re all sitting there just kind of praying. ‘Dear Lord, glad this isn’t me, please help old Roy out.’ But he was totally, hopelessly confused.” Two days later, Saxon said, McGee called on Moore again. “He says, ‘Fruit Salad, take this case.’ ” Roy was puzzled, Saxon said, and McGee repeated himself. “He says, ‘Professor McGee, it’s me, Mr. Moore.’ At which point McGee gets him in front of the room, takes Moore’s hand, and starts turning him in circles. He says, ‘Mr. Moore, you’re all mixed up, like a fruit salad.’ He proceeded to call him Fruit Salad for the rest of law school.” Saxon added, “Years later, I’m watching the ten-o’clock news with my wife and there’s this circuit judge up in Etowah County with this little plaque with the Ten Commandments on the wall behind him, and I said to her, ‘Look, there’s Fruit Salad.’ “

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:10:36pm

re: #335 Kragar

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one of the reporters should have asked “well why the fuck not?”

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:11:10pm

re: #356 Shropshire Slasher

There were other bidders, Whitefish required the least for mobilization.

Not according to Bloomberg:

The Federal Emergency Management Agency is investigating a controversial $300 million contract to rebuild Puerto Rico’s power grid, a no-bid award that has drawn scrutiny from Congress and spotlighted the agency’s poor record of policing similar grants.

and The Hill:

The White House’s statement is the second time Friday that a federal office has sought to distance itself from the ongoing controversy over the company, which had only two employees and little experience before Hurricane Maria hit Puerto Rico, decimating its electrical infrastructure. Earlier, the Federal Emergency Management Agency pushed back against accusations that it was involved in Puerto Rico awarding the no-bid contract to Whitefish.

and the NY Post:

The feds said Friday they did not approve a $300 million no-bid contract between Puerto Rico’s power authority and a tiny Montana company with ties to Team Trump to repair the island’s crippled electrical grid.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:11:51pm

re: #346 Nyet

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And Kobach could be the next governor of Kansas.

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:12:22pm

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

It sure wouldn’t be because he would actually read it.

Well, no. He’s got a tee time.
/

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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:13:00pm

re: #345 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m not so sure. Sanders Deadenders really are a cult of personality, and this is driving the ‘Left vs Liberal’ fight more than anything else.

I suspect a lot of Berniebros were also PUMAs in 2008. They’re just looking to bitch about the party. They’ll rally around someone in 2020 that won’t win the nomination and then declare they won’t support the party unless and until their preferred choice is installed as the nominee instead.

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:13:54pm

re: #361 gocart mozart

Got an extra ticket if you can make it to Connecticut by 9:00 tonight
Fall Jazz Series: Dave Stryker
palacetheaterct.org

Thanks, but I’m spoken for - my bass player’s son’s band is doing a show here on the island. Enjoy!

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:16:03pm

There were no other bidders. This is HR Halliburton in Iraq all over again. Next we’ll hear that a tiny Montana company with only two full time employees was the only one capable of handling the work.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:16:17pm

re: #345 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m not so sure. Sanders Deadenders really are a cult of personality, and this is driving the ‘Left vs Liberal’ fight more than anything else.

I think you’re both right but Sanders did have a lot of people who voted for him simply because they hated Clinton. He’s got legit appeal but I do think he’ll struggle should he run again. There’s a lot more discontent with him now. But yes this is the struggle: left vs liberal and i put my lot in with the latter camp since it’s more inclusive.

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:17:48pm

re: #369 goddamnedfrank

There were no other bidders. This is HR Halliburton in Iraq all over again. Next we’ll hear that a tiny Montana company with only two full time employees was the only one capable of handling the work.

They already tried that, citing that other companies couldn’t handle restoring power to ‘mountainous regions.’

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:21:24pm

re: #353 goddamnedfrank

How much choice did they have? A no bid contract awarded to Zinke’s neighbor. They probably felt he had them over a barrel.

and it was a private deal before Maria even hit the island.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:22:10pm

re: #356 Shropshire Slasher

There were other bidders, Whitefish required the least for mobilization.

There was ONE other entity. There were NO bids.

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austin_blue  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:23:09pm

re: #286 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, just run-of-the-mill early-stage Alzheimer’s. His father died from it.

On the other hand, Fred died at 93.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:23:48pm

re: #364 goddamnedfrank

elnuevodia.com

Of the five companies responding to the solicitation, only Whitefish and Power Secure remained, requiring a payment in advance of $ 25 million. Whitefish was selected for a cap of $ 300 million, of which $ 8 million have been disbursed.

The contract with Cobra Acquisitions is for $ 200 million, and both contracts may increase, warned Ramos.

Following a request made by El Nuevo Día this week, PREPA sent the contracts it signed in the middle of the emergency so that Whitefish, founded in the state of Montana about two years ago, and Cobra Acquisitions restore the power grid.

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CleverToad  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:24:38pm

re: #216 Blind Frog Belly White

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ObserverArt  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:24:45pm

re: #372 Backwoods_Sleuth

and it was a private deal before Maria even hit the island.

Well there you go. Proof the Trump administration can do some planning for a storm.

See all you capital L libtards!11!!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:25:41pm

re: #370 HappyWarrior

I think you’re both right but Sanders did have a lot of people who voted for him simply because they hated Clinton. He’s got legit appeal but I do think he’ll struggle should he run again. There’s a lot more discontent with him now. But yes this is the struggle: left vs liberal and i put my lot in with the latter camp since it’s more inclusive.

IMO, the Left are too lazy to win the fight, because that’s too much like work. But if they take their dolls and dishes and go home - as they are prone to do - they have the ability to fuck things up.

As far as building a new party? Please. That requires actual work and committment. They can’t be bothered with that. It’s easier to sit back and whine about being cheated and how much the nasty DNC stole The Precious.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:26:25pm

Watch this

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:26:44pm

re: #220 Ace-o-aces

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Really. Who were the Rosenbergs colluding with again?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:27:11pm

re: #374 austin_blue

On the other hand, Fred died at 93.

Yep. Barring any other medical conditions, Trump could be around for quite awhile yet.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:27:33pm

re: #375 Shropshire Slasher

Lawhawk posted a story a couple of days ago that basically said the Governor of Puerto Rico was defending Whitefish because of the lower cost of mobilization. I can’t find it right now and I did have a similar response to Lawhawk. I gotta head out and if I am wrong, oops, sorry :)

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:28:01pm

If you believe anything that comes out of this administration, I will personally pay for you to leave this country forever.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:28:55pm

re: #378 Blind Frog Belly White

IMO, the Left are too lazy to win the fight, because that’s too much like work. But if they take their dolls and dishes and go home - as they are prone to do - they have the ability to fuck things up.

As far as building a new party? Please. That requires actual work and committment. They can’t be bothered with that. It’s easier to sit back and whine about being cheated and how much the nasty DNC stole The Precious.

Yep.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:30:41pm

re: #381 Dr Lizardo

23 more years of Trump…heaven help us.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:31:30pm

re: #378 Blind Frog Belly White

As far as building a new party? Please. That requires actual work and committment. They can’t be bothered with that. It’s easier to sit back and whine about being cheated and how much the nasty DNC stole The Precious.

They could not even bother to register Democratic in closed-primary states, and then complained about being “shut out”.

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:32:28pm

re: #378 Blind Frog Belly White

The left of the spectrum I assume. Because Democrats are winning special elections and coming really close in others.

The ones you’re talking about are those that would also be susceptible by Russian propaganda.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:32:38pm

re: #382 Shropshire Slasher

Are you Dark Falcon?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:33:14pm

re: #380 Eventual Carrion

Really. Who were the Rosenbergs colluding with again?

Uh oh! Ghoulka forgot to add Soros into the mix!

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:34:42pm

re: #242 Kragar

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That must be one heavy rock he lives under.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:34:59pm

re: #385 Eclectic Cyborg

23 more years of Trump…heaven help us.

Odds are that Trump’s diet is a lot worse than his father’s was.

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The Major  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:35:08pm

re: #367 KGxvi

I have a beloved friend who has been conditioned into believing that all of the RT hires of various Left-Wing celebrities such as Thom Hartmann wipes away the sins of the Russians. Now why did RT make those hires? Simple: they are all under The Power of Gold and will deflect the Russian narrative the Kremlin is trying to portray - naturally, I don’t buy that at all - as far as I’m concerned, every American who works at RT is a traitor.

In about four weeks time, her and I are going to have a nice long talk about that….

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Kragar  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:36:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:36:52pm

re: #392 The Major

I have a beloved friend who has been conditioned into believing that all of the RT hires of various Left-Wing celebrities such as Thom Hartmann wipes away the sins of the Russians. Now why did RT make those hires? Simple: they are all under The Power of Gold and will deflect the Russian narrative the Kremlin is trying to portray - naturally, I don’t buy that at all - as far as I’m concerned, every American who works at RT is a traitor.

In about four weeks time, her and I are going to have a nice long talk about that….

I have some friends do who insist that it’s all warmongering and attempt to start another Cold War. So naive.

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:36:56pm

re: #388 Ace Rothstein

Are you Dark Falcon?

I’ve thought that myself, but Slasher offers less useful information.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:36:58pm

re: #382 Shropshire Slasher

Lawhawk posted a story a couple of days ago that basically said the Governor of Puerto Rico was defending Whitefish because of the lower cost of mobilization. I can’t find it right now and I did have a similar response to Lawhawk. I gotta head out and if I am wrong, oops, sorry :)

LOL at “lower cost of mobilization”.

Whitefish “mobilization” so far has been dreadfully inadequate and goes to show that just because you paid a lot doesn’t mean you get what you paid for.

Personally, I’m wondering how much of a kickback the guy with the satellite phone at PREPA is getting out of this deal.

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Renaissance_Man  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:37:08pm

re: #385 Eclectic Cyborg

23 more years of Trump…heaven help us.

Typically, dictators are kept around as a figurehead by a ruling regime long after they are capable of any normal function.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:37:23pm

My prediction; A bitter Milo writes a “tell all” book accusing Bannon of forcing him to consort with Nazis.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:38:54pm

re: #398 Ace-o-aces

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His 15 minutes are done. I wouldn’t be shocked if he tries to reinvent himself and his image.

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William Lewis  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:38:57pm

re: #388 Ace Rothstein

Are you Dark Falcon?

Similar at times but not the same. I’d have more military history fun otherwise, alas.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:38:58pm

Looks like we’re in for one hell of a windstorm in the Czech Republic if this forecast bears out.

The west wind will intensify at night on Sunday and Sunday morning. During the afternoon, it begins to gradually change to the northwest and takes the most strength. It will fade until evening, though the wind will still be.

“In locations above 600 m, strong wind will be accompanied by snow, with intense snow showers (in thunderstorms) there may be a temporary decrease in visibility and the creation of snow cover. In the mountains the snow tongues begin to form in places, “warns meteorologists.

The level of danger is extreme, according to the ČHMÚ warning report, there is a risk of material damage on the large territory, transport complications, power outages, forest injuries and life threats.

Meteorologists recommend people to secure windows and doors and remove or fix loose objects. People should not go out, and when they are outside, they should not stay in older buildings where roof tiles or sheets can fall.

Danger is also threatened in the forest and near larger trees. Due to the expected collisions, the trees will be damaged in the underground terrain. This should be remembered even when driving and parking the car.

As per GoogleTranslate.

ČHMU is the Czech Hydrometeorological Institute - sort of the equivalent of the National Weather Service.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:39:42pm

re: #399 HappyWarrior

His 15 minutes are done. I wouldn’t be shocked if he tries to reinvent himself and his image.

My prediction; A bitter Milo writes a “tell all” book accusing Bannon of forcing him to consort with Nazis.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:39:45pm

re: #401 Dr Lizardo

Looks like we’re in for one hell of a windstorm in the Czech Republic if this forecast bears out.

As per GoogleTranslate.

ČHMU is the Czech Hydrometeorological Institute - sort of the equivalent of the National Weather Service.

Stay safe dude.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:39:57pm

re: #362 The Major

The New Yorker: Why Roy Moore’s Law-School Professor Nicknamed Him Fruit Salad

Before he went to law school, Moore commanded a Military Police company in Vietnam.

Serving as the commander of 188th Military Police Company of the 504th Military Police Battalion, Moore was known to be very strict. Some of his soldiers gave him the derogatory nickname “Captain America”, due to his attitude toward discipline. This role earned him enemies, and in his autobiography he recalls sleeping on sandbags to avoid a grenade or bomb being tossed under his cot, as many of his men had threatened him with fragging.

I have to say I know the type. Now, command of a company (or a battalion for that matter) is not a popularity contest, but when you have to change your billeting arrangements for fear of assassination by your own soldiers, you might at least want to consider the possibility that you’re not doing it right. Apparently Moore never did.
It’s possible that Moore’s general shitheadedness is payback for all those smart ass liberals who threatened him with fragging in Vietnam and humiliated him in law school.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:40:13pm

re: #402 Ace-o-aces

My prediction; A bitter Milo writes a “tell all” book accusing Bannon of forcing him to consort with Nazis.

Oh I’d love to see him turn on Bannon.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:40:22pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:40:56pm

re: #387 Belafon

The left of the spectrum I assume. Because Democrats are winning special elections and coming really close in others.

The ones you’re talking about are those that would also be susceptible by Russian propaganda.

Yeah, the folks who call themselves The Left, because ‘Liberal’ is apparently tainted by pragmatism and the desire to actually get shit done rather than holding out for the perfect policy you can’t ever pass.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:40:58pm

re: #391 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Odds are that Trump’s diet is a lot worse than his father’s was.

And from the photos I’ve seen, Fred was a pretty slender fellow well into his later years.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:41:54pm

re: #381 Dr Lizardo

Yep. Barring any other medical conditions, Trump could be around for quite awhile yet.

If GWB was persona non grata with all things GOP after his 8 years in office, I’m hopeful that Trump will not be allowed in polite company every again once he leaves office.

Also, given his sociopathic tendencies and inability to really care about anything beyond himself (not to mention is extensive golf schedule), will he be the first president in recent history that looks better the day he leaves office than on the day he entered?

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:43:07pm

Have watched Get out yesterday. If you haven’t yet, do it. Kaluuya is such a great actor (first saw him in a Black Mirror ep).

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:43:24pm

re: #407 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, the folks who call themselves The Left, because ‘Liberal’ is apparently tainted by pragmatism and the desire to actually get shit done rather than holding out for the perfect policy you can’t ever pass.

Liberals would rather get shit done. Those types would rather bitch about what hasn’t been done.

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The Major  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:43:56pm

re: #230 MsJ

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ericblair  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:44:27pm

re: #330 Dr Lizardo

I highly doubt it will get to the level of the Spanish Civil War. Maybe a lot of shouting and some bottle or cobblestone throwing, but that’s about it.

Probably; the whole Catalan separatism process doesn’t sound very well thought out. They had been waffling back and forth for weeks about whether they were actually separating or not, and only declared independence when it was obvious that Spain was going to dissolve the Catalan government in a couple of hours.

This wasn’t a poor, oppressed minority trying to escape the boot of an oppressive central government. Catalan is a wealthy state, and separatism was being pushed by fairly well-off people, mostly in non-urban areas, who got decades of stories about how they were superior to the Spanish and didn’t want to pay for all those poor people in Bilbao and Madrid to sit around doing nothing. Also, the Russian trolls have been pushing the separatist movement in social media, and the Russian government has been openly supporting the separatists. If this is starting to sound familiar, um, yeah.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:44:46pm

re: #403 HappyWarrior

Stay safe dude.

They’re forecasting sustained winds in excess of 100 km/h (60 mph) with gusts up to about 120 km/h (75 mph) and up to 160 km/h (100 mph) winds up in the mountains at elevations above 1900 feet.

That’s pretty hardcore for this part of the world. We don’t get windstorms like that too often.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:45:11pm

re: #410 Nyet

Have watched Get out yesterday. If you haven’t yet, do it. Kaluuya is such a great actor (first saw him in a Black Mirror ep).

Get Out - In Theaters This February - Official Trailer

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:45:33pm

re: #414 Dr Lizardo

They’re forecasting sustained winds in excess of 100 km/h (60 mph) with gusts up to about 120 km/h (75 mph) and up to 160 km/h (100 mph) winds up in the mountains at elevations above 1900 feet.

That’s pretty hardcore for this part of the world. We don’t get windstorms like that too often.

Yeah I don’t think of the CR when I think of windstorms for sure.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:46:11pm

re: #412 The Major

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I hate to give Kristol credit but he’s been anti-Trump from the start. Not buyers remorse.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:47:17pm

Here’s the major thing about disaster response IRT power restoration:
1) You know the hurricane/ice storm/nor’easter/whatever devastating weather event is on its way.
2) Staging: you have done this so many times now it almost automatic.
3) Get your manpower, equipment and supplies STAGED in an area most conducive to the most rapid response possible.

Here we are more than a month after Maria and Whitefish Energy has failed by any reasonable measure.

It’s pathetic that ANYONE is making excuses for this.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:47:51pm

Anyhow, I’ll reiterate. Sanders in 2020 is a terrible idea. Two over seventy years old white guys fronting both tickets at a time when our country is facing tons of questions about race? I’m leaning towards Kamala Harris’s way at the moment should she run. There’s parts of Cory Booker’s resume I like but some parts I dislike.

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The Major  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:47:56pm

re: #404 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

It’s possible that Moore’s general shitheadedness is payback for all those smart ass liberals who threatened him with fragging in Vietnam and humiliated him in law school.

And that is very dangerous, especially with the number of Seven Mountain Dominionists burrowed deep in the government…..

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:48:24pm

re: #411 HappyWarrior

Liberals would rather get shit done. Those types would rather bitch about what hasn’t been done.

“How come Obama didn’t push for Single Payer when he controlled the House and Senate?”

You hear this from people who weren’t paying attention in 2009 and 2010, when a single Senator (Joe Fucking Lieberman) killed the Public Option. They’re also the same ones who thought Obama could get things done by sheer force of Bully Pulpit. And they didn’t show up in 2010, because Obama didn’t give them their pony.

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The Major  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:49:03pm

re: #405 HappyWarrior

Oh I’d love to see him turn on Bannon.

Nah. Gonna. Happen….

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:49:49pm

re: #422 The Major

Nah. Gonna. Happen….

I don’t know man. Bannon is distancing himself from Milo. Milo may be just petty and angry enough to want revenge.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:50:03pm

re: #419 HappyWarrior

Anyhow, I’ll reiterate. Sanders in 2020 is a terrible idea. Two over seventy years old white guys fronting both tickets at a time when our country is facing tons of questions about race? I’m leaning towards Kamala Harris’s way at the moment should she run. There’s parts of Cory Booker’s resume I like but some parts I dislike.

Oh, but don’t you know that Identity Politics is costing the Dems elections and we need to go back to telling the minorities to be patient and stop complaining about discrimination and being shot by police.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:50:17pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:51:00pm

re: #421 Blind Frog Belly White

“How come Obama didn’t push for Single Payer when he controlled the House and Senate?”

You hear this from people who weren’t paying attention in 2009 and 2010, when a single Senator (Joe Fucking Lieberman) killed the Public Option. They’re also the same ones who thought Obama could get things done by sheer force of Bully Pulpit. And they didn’t show up in 2010, because Obama didn’t give them their pony.

You know, I can give the younger Bros a little bit of a pass since Sanders 2016 was their first rodeo but I know a lot of older Sanders bros that are your siblings’ age who should know better. People who know that protest votes for Nader got us Bush in 2000 and still act like children over this. Hearts may be in the right place but they’re shitty allies.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:51:48pm

re: #416 HappyWarrior

Yeah I don’t think of the CR when I think of windstorms for sure.

A few years ago, we had an icestorm roll through here; that’s quite rare, thankfully. I’ve had some experience with freezing rain from having lived in the Portland, OR area for about 20 years. You walk nice and slow…..real slow. It took me 15 minutes to walk to the tram from the school; it usually takes me two minutes. I warned a co-worker of mine to walk very carefully….of course, she came out of the school a few minutes after me and promptly fell on her ass.

There were a lot of broken bones - the ER’s here were hopping. And car accidents galore.

I literally caught the last tram home from the city center (that’s about 8 km from where I live). No sooner did I get finally get home and checked out the news on the web, it was just being announced that public transportation throughout the entire Czech Republic had been stopped on order of the Ministry of Transport, with the singular exception of the subway system in Prague.

Heh. Got lucky.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:52:12pm

re: #424 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, but don’t you know that Identity Politics is costing the Dems elections and we need to go back to telling the minorities to be patient and stop complaining about discrimination and being shot by police.

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You have no idea how much that attitude pisses me off. Sanders engages in identity politics. Trump especially engages in identity politics. And I’ll add we wouldn’t have to do “identity politics” if the venerated WWC were willing to accept that minorities are entitled to the same government programs as they are but Bernie won’t tell em that.

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ObserverArt  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:52:39pm

re: #425 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Everyone is getting their stories in. Nobody did that contract apparently.

The Immaculate Conception of Electric Recovery Contracts.

God put us here…do you want us or not?!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:53:23pm

re: #402 Ace-o-aces

My prediction; A bitter Milo writes a “tell all” book accusing Bannon of forcing him to consort with Nazis.

I’m just waiting for the divorce proceedings…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:53:25pm

re: #409 Mike Lamb

If GWB was persona non grata with all things GOP after his 8 years in office, I’m hopeful that Trump will not be allowed in polite company every again once he leaves office.

Why would he need polite company when he can be the king of reality TV and WWF?

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The Major  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:53:52pm

re: #378 Blind Frog Belly White

IMO, the Left are too lazy to win the fight, because that’s too much like work. But if they take their dolls and dishes and go home - as they are prone to do - they have the ability to fuck things up.

The D’s have always had a tendency to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. At the same time, sane R’s appear to be very rare creatures to the point of being Critically Endangered….

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:54:12pm

To be honest, if I’m a Dem candidate in 2020 and Sanders is running, I’m asking him what he’s actually accomplished and why should we trust him with the Presidency despite being in Congress since 1990 with a thin resume of accomplishments. I’d also press him on his immigration record that won praise from Steve King no less. Sanders can and should be attacked from the left.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:54:39pm

re: #425 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Assuming there is an actual inquiry into the contract, it sure feels like these statements are going to bite the admin in the ass. Seems unbelievable that the WH wouldn’t have any knowledge of the deal, given they are going to be cutting the checks.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:55:11pm

re: #432 The Major

The D’s have always had a tendency to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. At the same time, sane R’s appear to be very rare creatures to the point of being Critically Endangered….

I’m afraid of that happening here in Virginia but I do think we’re going to pull it out with all three offices controlled by Democrats. I’d like to think that Gillespie’s very negative campaign and resorting to Trumpism- he’s not popular here has worn people out.

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ericblair  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:55:17pm

re: #419 HappyWarrior

Anyhow, I’ll reiterate. Sanders in 2020 is a terrible idea. Two over seventy years old white guys fronting both tickets at a time when our country is facing tons of questions about race? I’m leaning towards Kamala Harris’s way at the moment should she run. There’s parts of Cory Booker’s resume I like but some parts I dislike.

I think we know absolutely zip about how 2020 is going to play out. US politics at the Presidential level works on backlash. Obama was the backlash to W, Trump was the backlash to Obama, and we’re going to get a hell of a backlash to Trump when all is said and done. We’re probably going to end up running someone who is the absolute opposite to Trump, and Harris may be one of the contenders, but we have a ways to go before anything becomes clear.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:55:46pm

re: #430 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m just waiting for the divorce proceedings…

Milo gets to keep the Gamerbros but Steve gets to keep the Nazis.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:56:21pm

re: #436 ericblair

I think we know absolutely zip about how 2020 is going to play out. US politics at the Presidential level works on backlash. Obama was the backlash to W, Trump was the backlash to Obama, and we’re going to get a hell of a backlash to Trump when all is said and done. We’re probably going to end up running someone who is the absolute opposite to Trump, and Harris may be one of the contenders, but we have a ways to go before anything becomes clear.

That’s certainly true. I’m just saying Re: Harris, she’s someone I like.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:56:51pm

re: #428 HappyWarrior

You have no idea how much that attitude pisses me off. Sanders engages in identity politics. Trump especially engages in identity politics. And I’ll add we wouldn’t have to do “identity politics” if the venerated WWC were willing to accept that minorities are entitled to the same government programs as they are but Bernie won’t tell em that.

It’s not Identity Politics if you’re the default. Then it’s just ‘politics’.
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The Major  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:57:44pm

re: #426 HappyWarrior

You know, I can give the younger Bros a little bit of a pass since Sanders 2016 was their first rodeo but I know a lot of older Sanders bros that are your siblings’ age who should know better. People who know that protest votes for Nader got us Bush in 2000 and still act like children over this. Hearts may be in the right place but they’re shitty allies.

Get this - my beloved friend who was an at-large delegate at the DNCC for Sanders quickly changed and signed up with Dr. Jill Stein after the convention and in a recent email exchange, moans about HRC being a ‘flawed candidate’….

I so love her, but…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:58:42pm

re: #440 The Major

Get this - my beloved friend who was an at-large delegate at the DNCC for Sanders quickly changed and signed up with Dr. Jill Stein after the convention and in a recent email exchange, moans about HRC being a ‘flawed candidate’….

I so love her, but…

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Jesus.

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:58:59pm

re: #429 ObserverArt

Everyone is getting their stories in. Nobody did that contract apparently.

The Immaculate Conception of Electric Recovery Contracts.

God put us here…do you want us or not?!

Everybody, somebody, anybody, nobody….

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ObserverArt  Oct 27, 2017 • 12:59:06pm

re: #432 The Major

The D’s have always had a tendency to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. At the same time, sane R’s appear to be very rare creatures to the point of being Critically Endangered….

Can you currently name one? Because I can’t.

And if there even is one, they are still chickens scared of Trump/Bannon.

Flake and Corker were not old time moderate conservatives. They were maybe a notch off being Tea Party/Republican Lites and they are running scared.

Hmm. How many kids are going to go out Trick ‘r Treating as a scary Steve Bannon and or an Evil Donald Trump this year???

Surely some at college to adult parties.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 1:00:17pm

re: #439 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s not Identity Politics if you’re the default. Then it’s just ‘politics’.
///////////////////

Exactly and you know what, I don’t like Sanders condescending attitude either. I don’t like him telling young Latina women that they shouldn’t aspire to be the first Latinas in office. I’m very proud of what my niece is going to accomplish as the first American born person on her mother’s side. I’d really think Sanders would be more sympathetic to this given his background. I don’t think Bernie’s racist but man he sure as hell is blind to it which is just as bad in its own way.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2017 • 1:00:38pm

re: #429 ObserverArt

Everyone is getting their stories in. Nobody did that contract apparently.

The Immaculate Conception of Electric Recovery Contracts.

God put us here…do you want us or not?!

“These guys just showed up and started working. Did you hire them?”

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 27, 2017 • 1:02:15pm

re: #302 Blind Frog Belly White

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Whitehouse doesn’t seem to be aware of many things that are being done in our name. Was this the generals fault too, or maybe someone else. Where does this buck stop? How does Donnie Two Scoops know he is doing a “10” in PR if he doesn’t know what is being done and by whom in PR?

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2017 • 1:03:26pm

re: #444 HappyWarrior

Exactly and you know what, I don’t like Sanders condescending attitude either. I don’t like him telling young Latina women that they shouldn’t aspire to be the first Latinas in office. I’m very proud of what my niece is going to accomplish as the first American born person on her mother’s side. I’d really think Sanders would be more sympathetic to this given his background. I don’t think Bernie’s racist but man he sure as hell is blind to it which is just as bad in its own way.

I don’t like him not being a Democrat
while being treated like he is
With virtually no discussion that he isnt

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 1:04:10pm

re: #446 Eventual Carrion

Whitehouse doesn’t seem to be aware of many things that are being done in our name. Was this the generals fault too, or maybe someone else. Where does this buck stop? How does Donnie Two Scoops know he is doing a “10” in PR if he doesn’t know what is being done and by whom in PR?

Because Donnie Small Hands wants it both ways. He wants all the credit, none of the blame and or responsibility when things go wrong. In short, he’s a needy little asshole who requires constant praising. You know what pretty much all his dimwit supporters say about my generation.

449
HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 1:04:32pm

re: #447 dangerman

I don’t like him not being a Democrat
while being treated like he is
With virtually no discussion that he isnt

That too.

450
HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2017 • 1:07:38pm

Re: Sanders. Per Giordano. He’s ruffling some feathers in some housing dispute in Cambridge.

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TedStriker  Oct 27, 2017 • 1:09:19pm

re: #404 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Before he went to law school, Moore commanded a Military Police company in Vietnam.

I have to say I know the type. Now, command of a company (or a battalion for that matter) is not a popularity contest, but when you have to change your billeting arrangements for fear of assassination by your own soldiers, you might at least want to consider the possibility that you’re not doing it right. Apparently Moore never did.
It’s possible that Moore’s general shitheadedness is payback for all those smart ass liberals who threatened him with fragging in Vietnam and humiliated him in law school.

So, Moore is basically a Bible-thumping Neidermeyer; in an odd way, that makes sense.

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Renaissance_Man  Oct 27, 2017 • 1:09:33pm

re: #436 ericblair

I think we know absolutely zip about how 2020 is going to play out. US politics at the Presidential level works on backlash. Obama was the backlash to W, Trump was the backlash to Obama, and we’re going to get a hell of a backlash to Trump when all is said and done. We’re probably going to end up running someone who is the absolute opposite to Trump, and Harris may be one of the contenders, but we have a ways to go before anything becomes clear.

There is no one as saintly as Trump is appalling.

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austin_blue  Oct 27, 2017 • 1:10:29pm

re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth

Here’s the major thing about disaster response IRT power restoration:
1) You know the hurricane/ice storm/nor’easter/whatever devastating weather event is on its way.
2) Staging: you have done this so many times now it almost automatic.
3) Get your manpower, equipment and supplies STAGED in an area most conducive to the most rapid response possible.

Here we are more than a month after Maria and Whitefish Energy has failed by any reasonable measure.

It’s pathetic that ANYONE is making excuses for this.

Not only that, but they had hundreds of trucks and crews just in Florida finishing up repairs there. And Miami is a fucking deepwater port, for dog’s sake. All they needed was a RORO boat to sail to San Juan. Pitiful response by FEMA in PR.

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gocart mozart  Oct 27, 2017 • 1:12:00pm

re: #362 The Major

Moore had recently returned from Vietnam, where he’d been a military-police officer. Some who served under Moore there had referred to him, with sarcasm, as “Captain America,” chafing at his egoist style of command. One such officer, Barrey Hall, told the Associated Press, in 2003, that Moore’s “policies damn near got him killed in Vietnam. He was a strutter.”

newyorker.com
Roy Moore was a cross between Frank Burns and Col. Flagg

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2017 • 1:13:03pm

re: #446 Eventual Carrion

How does Donnie Two Scoops know he is doing a “10” in PR if he doesn’t know what is being done and by whom in PR?

Hey, he went there and made a speech, threw paper towels.

He did his bit. Everybody else fucked it up.
///

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The Major  Oct 27, 2017 • 1:17:59pm

re: #441 HappyWarrior

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