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freetoken  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:38:19am

The perpetual spinning of Ms. Sanders goes against what I was taught in physics was possible.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:38:41am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:39:17am

Surprised she didn’t try out for Mental Gymnastics in the last Olympics.

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Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:39:29am
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ObserverArt  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:39:43am

Just asked this in the now old thread…

Anyone think Donny Trump resigns?

Not sure why, but I have a feeling if it gets too hot he just up and quits so as to avoid all that is coming. He’ll try for a Nixon out. Dump it all on Pence and then ask Pence to pardon him so he can be on his way.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:39:50am
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Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:40:56am

re: #2 Ace-o-aces

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:42:20am
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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:43:02am

She’s setting new standards for lying one’s ass off today.

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KGxvi  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:43:48am

Trump spoke to Manafort after he was sworn into office. That’s a hell of an admission.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:44:56am
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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:45:35am
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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:45:40am

Papadopoulas was a ‘volunteer.’

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:46:16am

Oh wow, I had no idea that Papadopoulos was so young. He’s my age. So yeah I’m starting to see why he talked. He’s younger than Manafort and Gates. Probably has a young family. He’s also not a Trump loyalist per say per Wiki. He advised Carson too.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:46:31am

Look, stopped clock!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:46:44am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:46:48am

re: #11 jaunte

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Mueller has more credibility in his pinky finger than anyone who works at FNC.

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KGxvi  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:47:06am

Paraphrasing…

Q: Papadopoulos worked on a campaign committee reporting to Jeff Session, what does this mean for the attorney general?

A: I don’t see how that has anything to do with the attorney general.

Goodgotdam, that’s just… wow.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:47:20am

re: #5 ObserverArt

Wouldn’t actually surprise me, to be honest.

He walks away via bankruptcies, he settles out of court, etc. Walking away when the heat gets too much is definitely a pattern of behavior on his part.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:47:47am

re: #18 KGxvi

Quick! Give that poor woman some more shovels!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:47:56am

re: #15 Ace-o-aces

Look, stopped clock!

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So Ben how’s that Breitbart money treating ya these days? Maybe if you actually focused on how fucked up your own side was, you wouldn’t be constantly trolling college campuses.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:48:22am

re: #18 KGxvi

Paraphrasing…

Q: Papadopoulos worked on a campaign committee reporting to Jeff Session, what does this mean for the attorney general?

A: I don’t see how that has anything to do with the attorney general.

Goodgotdam, that’s just… wow.

That’s SHS for you.

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:48:29am

I hope and pray that one day this woman is called to testify under oath.

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calochortus  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:48:35am

re: #14 HappyWarrior

Oh wow, I had no idea that Papadopoulos was so young. He’s my age. So yeah I’m starting to see why he talked. He’s younger than Manafort and Gates. Probably has a young family. He’s also not a Trump loyalist per say per Wiki. He advised Carson too.

Yeah, I was surprised he was so young too. But it makes sense-he appears to have been ambitious and using the Trump campaign to get a leg up. One suspects he thought he was very, very clever, and has now found out differently.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:48:45am

SHS has a mental macro for the phrase “I think the President has made it very clear that…”

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:48:47am

re: #10 KGxvi

Trump spoke to Manafort after he was sworn into office. That’s a hell of an admission.

Manafort and Trump haven’t stopped speaking for decades. They were working together during the campaign, even after Manafort stepped aside during the summer of 2016 as campaign manager (the role then filled on interim basis by Rick Gates, who is also indicted). Manafort continued talking to Trump and advising in a role all through the campaign and then into the transition period.

The two spoke even after inauguration.

That’s despite the growing prove/evidence that Manafort was an undeclared foreign agent.

Everyone around Trump is in trouble, and Trump’s predictably acting as though nothing is wrong - mostly because he takes his cues from Fox News, which is projecting their bullshit all over the place (and pushing the echo chamber that only ones doing wrong here are Mueller and Clinton, not Trump).

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Jay C  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:48:59am

re: #5 ObserverArt

Just asked this in the now old thread…

Anyone think Donny Trump resigns?

Not sure why, but I have a feeling if it gets too hot he just up and quits so as to avoid all that is coming. He’ll try for a Nixon out. Dump it all on Pence and then ask Pence to pardon him so he can be on his way.

Or, as an alternative scenario: brazen it out, fire Mueller, shut down the investigation, pardon anyone who needs one, and then dare Congress/the courts to do anything about it. And probably soon, so that it will be hoped to be forgotten by next year’s elections. Or buried by the news of some war that Trump will start to get a rally-round-the-flag effect.
Anyone here think that THIS Congress’s Republicans are likely to put the rule of law over their own political careers, or, more accurately, imperil their donor base’s investments??

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:49:21am

re: #23 makeitstop

I hope and pray that one day this woman is called to testify under oath.

She can play unindicted coconspirator number 21.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:49:21am

re: #19 Dr Lizardo

Wouldn’t actually surprise me, to be honest.

He walks away via bankruptcies, he settles out of court, etc. Walking away when the heat gets too much is definitely a pattern of behavior on his part.

Is Pence loyal to Trump? If Trump’s personality disorder has made Pence hate him, Trump’s only way to stay out of prison is to cling to the Presidency.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:49:24am
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wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:49:59am

re: #18 KGxvi

Goodgotdam, that’s just… wow.

Is that more of your lawyer talk? Does it have a translation for civilians?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:50:19am

re: #24 calochortus

Yeah, I was surprised he was so young too. But it makes sense-he appears to have been ambitious and using the Trump campaign to get a leg up. One suspects he thought he was very, very clever, and has now found out differently.

en.wikipedia.org
Academically, he’s certainly no dummy. BA from DePaul in CHICAGO and two Master Degrees from the London School of Economics.

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:50:19am

re: #27 Jay C

Or, as an alternative scenario: brazen it out, fire Mueller, shut down the investigation, pardon anyone who needs one, and then dare Congress/the courts to do anything about it. And probably soon, so that it will be hoped to be forgotten by next year’s elections. Or buried by the news of some war that Trump will start to get a rally-round-the-flag effect.

Not gonna happen.

He can run. He’ll only die tired.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:50:41am

re: #11 jaunte

[Embedded content]Fox busting the news of the day wide open

they are killing what remains of their credibility with everyone who is not a loyal viewer

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:51:12am

re: #32 HappyWarrior

en.wikipedia.org
Academically, he’s certainly no dummy. BA from DePaul in CHICAGO and two Master Degrees from the London School of Economics.

Just a kid, you know, like 30-somethings Donald Trump Jr, Ivanka, and Eric Trump.

/

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:51:15am

re: #30 Charles Johnson

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washingtonpost.com
She’s lying again.

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calochortus  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:51:27am

re: #32 HappyWarrior

en.wikipedia.org
Academically, he’s certainly no dummy. BA from DePaul in CHICAGO and two Master Degrees from the London School of Economics.

As I think we all know, academics and common sense are two entirely different things.

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KGxvi  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:51:50am

re: #31 wrenchwench

Is that more of your lawyer talk? Does it have a translation for civilians?

That is a technical legal term. Basically it means, “we need to take a break right now so that we can discuss how this case needs to settle right this fucking minute.”

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:52:18am

We have receipts @presssec:

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:52:27am

re: #35 Sir John Barron

Just a kid, you know, like 30-somethings Donald Trump Jr, Ivanka, and Eric Trump.

/

Yeah I know you guys jokingly call me kid but I’m eligible to run for any office but the Presidency. Plus I’m older than most of the Beatles were when they broke up and I’m older than nearly everyone who hit a home run last night.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:52:55am

re: #37 calochortus

As I think we all know, academics and common sense are two entirely different things.

Certainly. My grandfather was a high school drop out but one of the most wise men my brothers and I ever knew.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:53:14am
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calochortus  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:53:31am

re: #36 HappyWarrior

washingtonpost.com
She’s lying again.

Well, of course she is. However, I have heard said that the entirely unprofessional Trump campaign had a lot of hangers-on and self appointed people who were happily accepted into the fold.

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wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:53:50am

re: #38 KGxvi

That is a technical legal term. Basically it means, “we need to take a break right now so that we can discuss how this case needs to settle right this fucking minute.”

My mom went to the wrong law school! She could have used that more than once!

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:54:06am
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KGxvi  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:54:54am

re: #26 lawhawk

Everyone around Trump is in trouble, and Trump’s predictably acting as though nothing is wrong - mostly because he takes his cues from Fox News, which is projecting their bullshit all over the place (and pushing the echo chamber that only ones doing wrong here are Mueller and Clinton, not Trump).

Leaving someone else holding the bag has been Trump’s MO since he’s been a public figure, which is basically my entire life time.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:55:58am

Question about the Yam’s great memory

HA

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:56:27am

re: #47 Stanley Sea

Question about the Yam’s great memory

HA

Hahha, from whom?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:56:32am

re: #46 KGxvi

Leaving someone else holding the bag has been Trump’s MO since he’s been a public figure, which is basically my entire life time.

Trump’s notorious for leaving some other poor bastard holding the bag - it’s pretty much the stuff of legend. Everyone knows it.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:56:34am

re: #45 jaunte

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wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:57:09am

‘I haven’t spoken with him specifically on that detail.’

Repeat ad infinitum.

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scottslemmons  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:57:32am

re: #11 jaunte

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:57:34am

re: #50 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:58:19am
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Stanley Sea  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:58:24am

re: #48 HappyWarrior

Hahha, from whom?

Some reporter, it was great.

She of course didn’t answer.

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wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:58:55am

‘Just concluded’

Apply as necessary.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:58:59am

re: #53 jaunte

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:59:01am

re: #29 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Is Pence loyal to Trump? If Trump’s personality disorder has made Pence hate him, Trump’s only way to stay out of prison is to cling to the Presidency.

were getting way way ahead of ourselves….
still…

ford pardoned nixon for a reason - best interest of the country and to effectively stop further need for investigation.

that reason wont work again - cause it’s been done, and because this is way more egregious - and so pence’s future would be toast

so if pence lets trump skate in the face of concrete evidence (tapes, emails, testimony etc) then …..i just dont know what the country would do ….AND pence’s future would be toast

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KGxvi  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:59:08am

re: #44 wrenchwench

My mom went to the wrong law school! She could have used that more than once!

I’ve sadly had too many times where I’ve been sitting in a deposition and heard an answer and thought “well, fuck.” It’s mostly the same principle, every once in a while something comes to light and all you can do is settle the case as quickly as possible and include a non-disclosure agreement in the settlement. If I were in the situation where my client answered a question like that one, I’d immediately suggest a break and ask WTF?

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Jenner7  Oct 30, 2017 • 10:59:58am

Their Hillary collusion theory is bonkers. If defies logic.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:00:05am

re: #58 dangerman

were getting way way ahead of ourselves….
still…

ford pardoned nixon for a reason - best interest of the country and to effectively stop further need for investigation.

that reason wont work again - cause it’s been done, and because this is way more egregious - and so pence’s future would be toast

so if pence lets trump skate in the face of concrete evidence (tapes, emails, testimony etc) then …..i just dont know what the country would do ….AND pence’s future would be toast

Ford I believe had integrity. Pence, he’d sell this country in a minute to get his theocratic fantasies.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:00:12am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:00:18am

re: #58 dangerman

were getting way way ahead of ourselves….
still…

ford pardoned nixon for a reason - best interest of the country and to effectively stop further need for investigation.

that reason wont work again - cause it’s been done, and because this is way more egregious - and so pence’s future would be toast

so if pence lets trump skate in the face of concrete evidence (tapes, emails, testimony etc) then …..i just dont know what the country would do ….AND pence’s future would be toast

Pence has no future, that’s why he was willing to sign on as Trump’s VP when no successful politician would.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:01:12am

re: #62 Charles Johnson

No one is escaping the Wraithdom.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:01:51am

re: #40 HappyWarrior

Yeah I know you guys jokingly call me kid but I’m eligible to run for any office but the Presidency. Plus I’m older than most of the Beatles were when they broke up and I’m older than nearly everyone who hit a home run last night.

still got all your hair?

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:02:34am

re: #36 HappyWarrior

washingtonpost.com
She’s lying again.

“lying” is going to take a hit today

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wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:02:59am

With enough sopapilla, this can all be cleaned up.

/

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:03:25am
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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:04:01am

re: #50 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

WH talking point = Lie. Lets start calling liars what they are.

quoted for why the fuck does this even need to be said?

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Jenner7  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:04:04am

“Hey guys, let’s get dirt on Trump and not release it until AFTER the election.

Great idea!”

I mean, come on.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:04:54am

re: #65 dangerman

still got all your hair?

Yeah but baldness doesn’t run in our family.

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Jay C  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:05:42am

re: #60 Jenner7

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Their Hillary collusion theory is bonkers. If defies logic.

What does logic have to with it?
This BS “theory” is just a set of button-pushers for Fox Nation: “Hillary Clinton”, “Crooked Hillary”, “E-mails”, “Russians”, “Collusion”, etc….
All designed simply to work the rubes into a froth of whattaboutism, and general offended piss-off at those “domestic enemies” (i.e. anyone who doesn’t worship Trump).

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KGxvi  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:06:39am

re: #58 dangerman

were getting way way ahead of ourselves….
still…

ford pardoned nixon for a reason - best interest of the country and to effectively stop further need for investigation.

that reason wont work again - cause it’s been done, and because this is way more egregious - and so pence’s future would be toast

so if pence lets trump skate in the face of concrete evidence (tapes, emails, testimony etc) then …..i just dont know what the country would do ….AND pence’s future would be toast

If we are, at some point, faced with a President Pence for the remainder of this term, there’s just no way that he wins in 2020. It’ll be the 1976 election all over again. The Trump base will stay home or rally behind some terrible third party candidate. Moderates and those not normally politically engaged will flock to the Democratic nominee (assuming they aren’t terrible). The map won’t be nearly as kind to President Pence as it was to President Ford.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:06:41am

re: #68 jaunte

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:07:26am

re: #61 HappyWarrior

Ford I believe had integrity. Pence, he’d sell this country in a minute to get his theocratic fantasies.

true
i left the part out that after pence pardons trump for whatever reason, he himself gets indicted. not pardoning trump wouldnt change that though.

i believe with no proof that trump pardoning himself wouldnt stand. pence doing it would.

this is a mess

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:08:10am

re: #72 Jay C

What does logic have to with it?
This BS “theory” is just a set of button-pushers for Fox Nation: “Hillary Clinton”, “Crooked Hillary”, “E-mails”, “Russians”, “Collusion”, etc….
All designed simply to work the rubes into a froth of whattaboutism, and general offended piss-off at those “domestic enemies” (i.e. anyone who doesn’t worship Trump).

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:08:27am

re: #51 wrenchwench

‘I haven’t spoken with him specifically on that detail.’

Repeat ad infinitum.

“This has nothing to do with President Trump or his campaign.”

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:08:45am

What about whatabouttery?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:08:52am

re: #76 jaunte

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As I said, get over it, you won.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:09:03am

re: #76 jaunte

Whataboutism? Volume XXXLVII

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calochortus  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:09:15am

This has probably been discussed somewhere, but do we know why Mueller is investigating Tony Podesta? It doesn’t seem immediately obvious to me.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:09:46am

You know deep down, tehy wish Clinton had won because it’s a lot more profitable for the right wing pundits to just have a Clinton bitchfest factory than to actually have to do anything to defend the awful policies and people they support.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:09:48am

re: #80 Sir John Barron

I’d like to see some cable hosts just start yelling SQUIRREL! when that happens.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:10:38am

re: #66 dangerman

“lying” is going to take a hit today

Lying liars club insulted by the depth and degree of lying by SHS and Drump.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:10:49am

re: #70 Jenner7

“Hey guys, let’s get dirt on Trump and not release it until AFTER the election.

Great idea!”

I mean, come on.

yeah rather than release it and assure a win, we’ll hold it in case we lose - which is never gonna happen look at the polls - and then destroy the guy

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:11:22am

We had the Dallas Buyers Club. Now we have the Drumpf Liars Club.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:11:32am

re: #76 jaunte

Trump supporter on CNN just now: “What about Hillary Clinton? What about Obama? What about Loretta Lynch?”

— Brian Stelter

“I know I am but what are you?”

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:11:43am

I hope they’re watching Manafort closely so he doesn’t have the chance to board Oligarch Airways.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:12:30am

re: #85 dangerman

yeah rather than release it and assure a win, we’ll hold it in case we lose - which is never gonna happen look at the polls - and then destroy the guy

It literally makes no sense but then again these are people who think Trump was this mavericky outsider despite the fact he had guys like Manafort and Stone advising him. Guys who got involved in GOP politics years ago and who guys who met Trump through Roy Cohn who was a thing when my Dad was in diapers.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:12:36am

re: #73 KGxvi

If we are, at some point, faced with a President Pence for the remainder of this term, there’s just no way that he wins in 2020. It’ll be the 1976 election all over again. The Trump base will stay home or rally behind some terrible third party candidate. Moderates and those not normally politically engaged will flock to the Democratic nominee (assuming they aren’t terrible). The map won’t be nearly as kind to President Pence as it was to President Ford.

yes exactly.
and i still say he gets indicted himself

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wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:12:38am

re: #88 jaunte

I hope they’re watching Manafort closely so he doesn’t have the chance to board Oligarch Airways.

Did he deny us the perp walk by turning himself in?

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:13:05am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:13:07am

re: #91 wrenchwench

Did he deny us the perp walk by turning himself in?

Yeah he surrendered to the FBI.

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plansbandc  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:13:30am

re: #67 wrenchwench

I want a Stufy with potatoes, eggs, cheese, guac, and salsa. <3

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:13:31am

re: #92 lawhawk

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A PD? How interesting.

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:13:37am
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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:13:38am

re: #91 wrenchwench

I saw a shot of him on MSNBC this morning, hiding behind the sun visor of his SUV.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:14:21am

re: #65 dangerman

still got all your hair?

I’m 51 and have enough hair for at least three people, so that proves nothing.

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wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:14:24am

re: #93 HappyWarrior

Yeah he surrendered to the FBI.

In custody? Released?

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:14:28am

re: #96 lawhawk

“You people shouldn’t pay attention to Trump’s tweets, not official statements, etc.”

/

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:14:42am

re: #96 lawhawk

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I guess the pizza hadn’t arrived yet.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:14:51am

re: #99 wrenchwench

In custody? Released?

Not sure.

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wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:15:01am

re: #97 jaunte

I saw a shot of him on MSNBC this morning, hiding behind the sun visor of his SUV.

‘The perp peek’.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:15:14am

re: #82 HappyWarrior

You know deep down, tehy wish Clinton had won because it’s a lot more profitable for the right wing pundits to just have a Clinton bitchfest factory than to actually have to do anything to defend the awful policies and people they support.

you win you gotta govern so you better have something
and between the pres, the house and the senate they all came up empty
whoda predicted that?

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Stanley Sea  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:15:34am

That bullshit she read about 100 beers on the wall was insulting.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:17:05am
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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:17:19am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:18:00am

re: #107 lawhawk

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They wish.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:18:58am

re: #98 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I’m 51 and have enough hair for at least three people, so that proves nothing.

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It’s coming off as soon as Trump is removed from office.

fair point. i otoh started losing mine at 23. that was…. well last century anyway

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:19:21am

re: #88 jaunte

I hope they’re watching Manafort closely so he doesn’t have the chance to board Oligarch Airways.

Yeah, I’m wondering if Mueller will claim he’s a flight risk.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:20:10am

re: #109 dangerman

fair point. i otoh started losing mine at 23. that was…. well last century anyway

I knew a guy that lost his by 18.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:20:14am

re: #100 Sir John Barron

“You people shouldn’t pay attention to Trump’s tweets, not official statements, etc.”

/

does that make them any less true? i mean are you saying his tweets are lies?

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ObserverArt  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:21:23am

re: #63 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Pence has no future, that’s why he was willing to sign on as Trump’s VP when no successful politician would.

Yep. Indiana no longer wanted him. Manafort did Pence a favor.

Question becomes, why did Manafort do Pence a favor?

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:21:38am

re: #112 dangerman

does that make them any less true? i mean are you saying his tweets are lies?

I was being sarcastic, hence the “/”.

But IIRC, Spicer or SHS once said something to the effect of Trump’s tweets not being official, etc.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:21:58am

re: #106 jaunte

Trump said in an on-the-record interview with the Washington Post that Papadopolous was one of his main sources of foreign policy advice.

I’m certainly open to the possibility that Trump was lying when he said that. But if so, he should say so personally and explain why.

locker room talk

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:22:07am

re: #52 scottslemmons

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*cough* hannity *cough*

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:22:52am

re: #113 ObserverArt

He recognized an easily manipulated dummy when he saw one.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:23:00am

re: #111 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I knew a guy that lost his by 18.

My hair started thinning around when I was around 20. When I was about 25, a good friend of mine told me that my various combover attempts were ridiculous and should I just shave it off and go bald.

Been doing that ever since - it’s been almost a quarter-century since I’ve seen the inside of a barber shop, LOL.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:23:07am

re: #113 ObserverArt

Yep. Indiana no longer wanted him. Manafort did a Pence a favor.

Question becomes, why did Manafort do Pence a favor?

Remember the fake snafu with the plane that made the yam stay longer with Pence?

He wasn’t the first choice.

So fishy.

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:23:21am

re: #68 jaunte

“They’ve indicted two people. If they’d really had anything on the president, they would have indicted him as well. Thus, they’ve gotten everyone they wanted.” - WH Logic

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:23:32am

If Mueller thought that Manafort would try to bolt, would he be able to put a red flag on his passport?

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Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:24:01am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:24:24am

re: #121 makeitstop

If Mueller thought that Manafort would try to bolt, would he be able to put a red flag on his passport?

They probably already did.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:24:38am

re: #13 makeitstop

Papadopoulas was a ‘volunteer.’

So was Manafort.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:24:41am

re: #122 Kragar

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I actually think I remember us talking about it since he had model UN on his resume.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:25:14am

re: #120 Belafon

“This is just a distraction from the work that the American People sent us here to do: harvesting their 401k’s, eliminating their health insurance, looting their national monuments, and erasing their consumer protections.”

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:25:30am

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:25:34am

re: #118 Dr Lizardo

My hair started thinning around when I was around 20. When I was about 25, a good friend of mine told me that my various combover attempts were ridiculous and should I just shave it off and go bald.

Been doing that ever since - it’s been almost a quarter-century since I’ve seen the inside of a barber shop, LOL.

Yul Brynner made it cool years ago.
I have a coworker who lost all the hair on just the back of his head to an immune disorder. Eventually his wife and kids talked him into shaving the rest off.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:25:54am

re: #124 Ace Rothstein

So was Manafort.

Ha, libtards! They were volunteers! Don’t you understand what volunteer means? Checkmate! Owned!

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:26:34am

re: #76 jaunte

“That other guy was speeding as well. Why did you only pull me over?”

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:26:38am

re: #108 HappyWarrior

They wish.

And they have no way of knowing that.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:26:44am

re: #114 Sir John Barron

I was being sarcastic, hence the “/”.

But IIRC, Spicer or SHS once said something to the effect of Trump’s tweets not being official, etc.

re: #112 dangerman

does that make them any less true? i mean are you saying his tweets are lies?

sorry didnt mean you “you” - meant them / you you were channeling

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Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:26:56am
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Skip Intro  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:28:56am

re: #130 Belafon

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“That other guy was speeding as well. Why did you only pull me over?”

What about Trump meeting with his AG today? What about that, hmmm? Looks unethical and illegal to me.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:29:27am

re: #121 makeitstop

If Mueller thought that Manafort would try to bolt, would he be able to put a red flag on his passport?

private jet

the man laundered how many millions that they found…..

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:29:54am

re: #133 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Strong praise for a guy who just came in for pizza. SHS thinks we’re all stupid.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:31:08am

re: #130 Belafon

[Embedded content]

“That other guy was speeding as well. Why did you only pull me over?”

…and that guy was going way way faster than me

—-i caught you

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:31:21am

re: #128 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Yul Brynner made it cool years ago.
I have a coworker who lost all the hair on just the back of his head to an immune disorder. Eventually his wife and kids talked him into shaving the rest off.

Telly Savalas too.

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Jenner7  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:31:55am

Shorter Sarah: That guy we barely know did all that colluding on his own.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:33:08am

There’s this guy for the Steelers who has Alopecia. He even got picked on as a kid but he’s a great linebacker and having the last laugh.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:33:23am

re: #126 jaunte

“This is just a distraction from the work that the American People sent us here to do: harvesting their 401k’s, eliminating their health insurance, looting their national monuments, and erasing their consumer protections.”

“And our work of destruction has barely started. We have so much more destroying to do.”

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:33:41am

re: #133 Kragar

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they will not be able to hand wave / whitewash all of this. the coverage was wall to wall. its archived and written about, opined on everywhere

reality is going to see its ratings improve

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:34:20am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:34:28am

re: #140 HappyWarrior

And speaking of bald, hey, we can’t forget Sid Haig in his 1970’s exploitation film glory, can we?

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:34:39am

re: #136 HappyWarrior

Strong praise for a guy who just came in for pizza. SHS thinks we’re all as stupid as she is for taking this job.

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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:34:50am
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ObserverArt  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:35:11am

re: #81 calochortus

This has probably been discussed somewhere, but do we know why Mueller is investigating Tony Podesta? It doesn’t seem immediately obvious to me.

Here is a link and the first few paragraphs to a story a few days ago that may help fill you in on Mueller looking into Tony Podesta.

NBC News - Mueller Now Investigating Democratic Lobbyist Tony Podesta

WASHINGTON — Tony Podesta and the Podesta Group are now the subjects of a federal investigation being led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, three sources with knowledge of the matter told NBC News.

The probe of Podesta and his Democratic-leaning lobbying firm grew out of Mueller’s inquiry into the finances of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, according to the sources. As special counsel, Mueller has been tasked with investigating possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Manafort had organized a public relations campaign for a non-profit called the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine (ECMU). Podesta’s company was one of many firms that worked on the campaign, which promoted Ukraine’s image in the West.

The sources said the investigation into Podesta and his company began as more of a fact-finding mission about the ECMU and Manafort’s role in the campaign, but has now morphed into a criminal inquiry into whether the firm violated the Foreign Agents Registration Act, known as FARA.

- -cut- -

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KGxvi  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:35:15am

re: #88 jaunte

I hope they’re watching Manafort closely so he doesn’t have the chance to board Oligarch Airways.

I’m assuming as a condition of bail he had to surrender his passport.

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calochortus  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:36:26am

re: #147 ObserverArt

Thanks.

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wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:36:57am

re: #148 KGxvi

I’m assuming as a condition of bail he had to surrender his passport.

‘Assume nothing, grasshopper’

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:37:24am

re: #148 KGxvi

I don’t think that’s an insurmountable problem for someone with $75 million outside the country.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:37:26am

re: #146 JordanRules

John Kelly going on a propaganda network to spread more propaganda

what COS does this?

they’re sending him cause they got no one else

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danarchy  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:37:36am

So personally, I am not going to get too excited about any of this Mueller stuff until I hear that he has subpoenaed Trumps personal or corporate finances.

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TedStriker  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:37:48am

re: #144 Dr Lizardo

And speaking of bald, hey, we can’t forget Sid Haig in his 1970’s exploitation film glory, can we?

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Joe Pantoliano pulled off that look well in The Matrix so well, I think that’s his default look now.

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John Carter  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:38:29am

re: #147 ObserverArt

Here is a link and the first few paragraphs to a story a few days ago that may help fill you in on Mueller looking into Tony Podesta.

NBC News - Mueller Now Investigating Democratic Lobbyist Tony Podesta

This is smart.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:38:39am

re: #151 jaunte

I don’t think that’s an insurmountable problem for someone with $75 million outside the country.

said better than me above.

and he’s got a place to go, right?

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ObserverArt  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:39:18am

re: #140 HappyWarrior

There’s this guy for the Steelers who has Alopecia. He even got picked on as a kid but he’s a great linebacker and having the last laugh.

Former Ohio State Buckeye!

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KGxvi  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:41:40am

re: #118 Dr Lizardo

My hair started thinning around when I was around 20. When I was about 25, a good friend of mine told me that my various combover attempts were ridiculous and should I just shave it off and go bald.

Been doing that ever since - it’s been almost a quarter-century since I’ve seen the inside of a barber shop, LOL.

Scott Van Pelt and Bomani Jones on ESPN talk about having the “it’s time to come home” discussion with guys losing their hair. I always feel bad being entertained by that because I’ve got the kind of hair that requires barbers to get new clipper blades.

But about the barber shop, there are quite a few that are set up sort of old school style that will do a proper shave.

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wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:43:15am

re: #147 ObserverArt

Here is a link and the first few paragraphs to a story a few days ago that may help fill you in on Mueller looking into Tony Podesta.

NBC News - Mueller Now Investigating Democratic Lobbyist Tony Podesta

It’s July in Cleveland. What’s he wearing under his jacket?

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:44:05am

re: #147 ObserverArt

Here is a link and the first few paragraphs to a story a few days ago that may help fill you in on Mueller looking into Tony Podesta.

NBC News - Mueller Now Investigating Democratic Lobbyist Tony Podesta

Watch the spin on this - Mueller going after Podesta and Democrats is the real action, Manafort, Gates, and Papadoulous are the sideshow, when most everyone else is like - take all these traitors down. If they sided up with Russia on anything, they should be spending the rest of their lives in ADX Florence. But the right wing thinks Podesta and Clinton are the real targets, ignoring that all the evidence is pointing at Trump and his rotten cabal of cronies.

Clinton ppl indicted out of Mueller: 0
Clinton people who have entered guilty pleas: 0
Trump people indicted off Mueller: 3
Trump people entering guilty pleas: 1

All the evidence is pointing at Sessions, Trump spawn, and the rest of those cronies, not Clinton. Wont stop Fox spin cycle or that Hannity will demand Mueller step aside… because that’s what they do.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:44:15am

re: #159 wrenchwench

Now that’s a big fat money belt.

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:44:22am

re: #153 danarchy

So personally, I am not going to get too excited about any of this Mueller stuff until I hear that he has subpoenaed Trumps personal or corporate finances.

He may have had them for a while already.

We won’t hear about it until Mueller is ready to use them.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:44:33am

re: #150 wrenchwench

‘Assume nothing, grasshopper’

CIA Superior: Where is the, uh, the treasury guy? Pfarrer? Manafort?
CIA Officer: Right now?
CIA Superior: Right now.
CIA Officer: Um, he is in a detention room at Washington Dulles.
CIA Superior: Why?
CIA Officer: He was trying to board a flight to Venezuela. We had his name on a hot list, the CB people pulled him in, uh. Don’t know why he was going to Venezuela.
CIA Superior: You don’t know?
CIA Officer: No, sir.
CIA Superior: We have no extradition with Venezuela.
CIA Officer: Oh. So what should we do with him?
CIA Superior: For fuck’s sake, put him on the next flight to Venezuela!

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:45:10am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:45:53am

re: #162 makeitstop

He may have had them for a while already.

We won’t hear about it until Mueller is ready to use them.

Yep. We now know that the investigation is leaker-free.

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wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:46:14am

re: #161 jaunte

Now that’s a big fat money belt.

I’m think Bannon of the many shirts. These guys know how to hide things. Or thought they did.

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Jenner7  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:46:41am

A year ago….tomorrow.

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Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:46:43am
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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:47:13am

“…In 2006, the year he reportedly began working for Deripaska, Manafort bought a condo in Trump Tower for $3,675,000 through an LLC called John Hannah. John is Manafort’s middle name, and Hannah is the middle name of that of his then-business partner, Rick Davis.

In January 2015, the deed to the Trump Tower condo was transferred from John Hannah LLC to Paul and Kathleen Manafort. Three months later, the Manaforts took out a $3 million mortgage from UBS Bank USA for the condo.
nbcnews.com

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:47:18am

re: #164 jaunte

[Embedded content]Paul Manafort Has been Living at Trump Tower for the last 12 years. It also appears that he barely paid a thing for the apartment.

so…. new york state tax fraud

not the apartment, the laundered money

ok the apartment too

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freetoken  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:47:35am

re: #160 lawhawk

The right wing propaganda machine will play on the name recognition of “Podesta” in the general public, even though it is clear that the brother who worked with Clinton is not the one being investigated and no link has been implied.

Mueller needs to get to the bottom of the interconnecting financial interests in the foreign influence, so of course he’s roping in all of Manafort’s associates, including Tony Podesta’s group.

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KGxvi  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:48:16am

re: #151 jaunte

I don’t think that’s an insurmountable problem for someone with $75 million outside the country.

Not insurmountable, but the places you could go where part of that $75m could be used in lieu of a passport aren’t exactly the kind of places you want to go. Especially if the feds freeze your assets while you’re in the air.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:48:22am

re: #168 Kragar

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:48:25am

Further update on Zeena The Worrier Princess - Yesterday afternoon at 3:30, I was TRYING to take a nap. Zeena tip-tapped over to my side of the bed (16 tapping toenails on hardwood), and DEMANDED to be fed. And again at 7:00. And this was after a good breakfast and lunch.

Our Chowhound is back! I cannot tell you how relieved I am.

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danarchy  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:48:39am

re: #162 makeitstop

He may have had them for a while already.

We won’t hear about it until Mueller is ready to use them.

If Trumps records had been subpoenaed I can’t imagine he wouldn’t have been screaming about it.

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Jenner7  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:49:06am
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sagehen  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:49:30am

re: #151 jaunte

I don’t think that’s an insurmountable problem for someone with $75 million outside the country.

And don’t forget, Wilbur Ross (SecCommerce) was chairman of the Cyprus Bank that all that laundered money went through. The only American on the bank’s Board.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:50:24am

re: #163 Blind Frog Belly White

“What about the gym lady, Linda Lisky Kelly Ann Conaway?”

“Oh, f0ck, almost forgot about her. What about her?”

“Uh, she says she’ll play ball if we pay for her plastic surgery.”

“How much—oh forget it, pay it!”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:51:09am

re: #165 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Yep. We now know that the investigation is leaker-free.

Unlike, say, the Trump White House, which leaks like plumbing put together by The Three Stooges.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:51:12am

How awful was the press briefing?

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:51:17am

re: #173 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

You were either part of the conspiracy, or you’re a mindless fool that the Russians used to undermine America. Maybe both.

or….

you were either part of the conspiracy or everyone around you, including your family conspired while you were clueless.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:52:37am

re: #181 dangerman

or….

you were either part of the conspiracy or everyone around you, including your family conspired while you were clueless.

It would be hilarious if everyone around Trump, including his family, were using the old man and setting him up to take the fall.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:52:41am

re: #180 Dr. Matt

How awful was the press briefing?

There was a joke about 100 bottles of beer on the wall in relation to tax reform. It got worse from there.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:52:53am

re: #175 danarchy

If Trumps records had been subpoenaed I can’t imagine he wouldn’t have been screaming about it.

mueller probably has tax returns.

personal and corporate records, maybe not yet

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:53:33am

re: #175 danarchy

If Trumps records had been subpoenaed I can’t imagine he wouldn’t have been screaming about it.

He wouldn’t need a subpoena.

A federal prosecutor obtains tax returns by seeking an ex parte order from a federal judge. That means that the person who is being investigated doesn’t know that the tax returns are being sought or if the judge issues the order. Basically, it’s done in secret. That’s why tax returns are often sought in the early stage of an investigation, before the subject knows exactly what the prosecutor is looking at.

The statute permitting a prosecutor to obtain tax returns in a non-tax investigation requires a senior Justice Department official to sign off on obtaining a tax return, but Mueller has authority to do so because the statute permits “United States attorneys” to obtain tax returns and he has the power of a “United States attorney” pursuant to the special counsel regulations. In my former office, a person designated by the United States attorney routinely approved requests for tax returns.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:54:32am
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calochortus  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:55:12am

re: #171 freetoken

The right wing propaganda machine will play on the name recognition of “Podesta” in the general public, even though it is clear that the brother who worked with Clinton is not the one being investigated and no link has been implied.

Mueller needs to get to the bottom of the interconnecting financial interests in the foreign influence, so of course he’s roping in all of Manafort’s associates, including Tony Podesta’s group.

I can’t copy and paste this little gem from FR, but do check out post #7 from someone copying a post from Reddit. One of those people with hush-hush insider info. It’s all about Manafort and Podesta being the targets of the first indictments, which will then go after the whole Clinton cabal, but not Obama. Not because he isn’t guilty, but because Trump is so very, very respectful of the office of the presidency.
Yeah. Right.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:55:43am

re: #186 Dr. Matt

Government requests Paul Manafort bail be set at $10 million

That’s 57,928,265.11 rubles.

$10 million sounds like a lot, even in today’s Monopoly money terms.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:56:13am

re: #185 makeitstop

Yep…..it’s entirely possible that Mueller already has Trump’s financials and tax returns, etc., and Trump wouldn’t know a damn thing about it.

At least, until that particular hammer drops.

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freetoken  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:56:28am

re: #188 Sir John Barron

What’s the rate for a bail bond?

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Dr. Matt  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:56:59am

re: #188 Sir John Barron

$10 million sounds like a lot, even in today’s Monopoly money terms.

Refresh comment. I was off with my rubles conversion…..it’s much worse.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:57:40am

The little guy always gets screwed.

Even as the indictment of Paul Manafort was being unsealed, a crew of uncommonly skilled and efficient workers was laboring with devoutly honest grace at the Brooklyn brownstone the former Trump campaign manager allegedly purchased with laundered money, then used as collateral for fraudulent loans.
“He has not been here for a week and three days,” the contractor from Contreras Innovations said Monday morning.
The contractor, who gave his name only as Marti, was unaware that Manafort had been indicted by Special Counsel Robert Mueller.
“You’re kidding,” he said when The Daily Beast told him.

Paul Manafort’s Frantic Brooklyn Brownstone Renovation

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:58:39am

re: #191 Dr. Matt

Refresh comment. I was off with my rubles conversion…..it’s much worse.

Order-of-magnitude error. You just crashed the probe into Mars.

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Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:59:27am

re: #193 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Order-of-magnitude error. You just crashed the probe into Mars.

I SAID ACROSS HER NOSE, NOT UP IT!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:00:14pm

re: #190 freetoken

What’s the rate for a bail bond?

10% usually.

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sagehen  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:00:16pm

re: #190 freetoken

What’s the rate for a bail bond?

Usually 10%, but not for somebody who anyone with an internet knows would be Moscow-bound.

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:01:32pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:02:55pm

re: #197 makeitstop

[Embedded content]

Ooooo! That’s gonna sting!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:03:19pm

re: #197 makeitstop

[Embedded content]

Having Trump for comparison seems to have rehabilitated Dubya’s image.

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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:04:37pm
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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:05:26pm

The ‘unidentified’ foreign professor in the Papadopoulos case has been identified.

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Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:06:26pm
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Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:07:16pm

re: #200 JordanRules

LOLOLOL
No ties?

valdaiclub.com

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Mike Lamb  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:07:57pm

re: #187 calochortus

I can’t copy and paste this little gem from FR, but do check out post #7 from someone copying a post from Reddit. One of those people with hush-hush insider info. It’s all about Manafort and Podesta being the targets of the first indictments, which will then go after the whole Clinton cabal, but not Obama. Not because he isn’t guilty, but because Trump is so very, very respectful of the office of the presidency.
Yeah. Right.

That’s uh, really something.

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Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:08:45pm
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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:08:58pm

really?

i go away for five whole minutes and clinton isnt indicted yet?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:09:38pm

Well, good night Lizards. Time to call it a day.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:10:08pm

re: #203 Nyet

LOLOLOL
No ties?

valdaiclub.com

that didnt take long

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calochortus  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:10:35pm

BBL
As much fun as this is, I do need to get some stuff done.

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KGxvi  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:10:49pm

re: #190 freetoken

What’s the rate for a bail bond?

Usually somewhere around 10%

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:10:51pm

re: #187 calochortus

I can’t copy and paste this little gem from FR, but do check out post #7 from someone copying a post from Reddit. One of those people with hush-hush insider info. It’s all about Manafort and Podesta being the targets of the first indictments, which will then go after the whole Clinton cabal, but not Obama. Not because he isn’t guilty, but because Trump is so very, very respectful of the office of the presidency.
Yeah. Right.

How I would respond to the person who came up with that bullshit….

YouTube

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:11:27pm

re: #202 Kragar

This article from the sidebar is super creepy.
The reason Jared Kushner still says ‘daddy’

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Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:12:17pm

re: #205 Nyet

lenta.ru

Как рассказал корреспонденту «Ленты.ру» в перерыве между сессиями директор Лондонской академии дипломатии Джозеф Мифсуд, эксперты «Валдая» многократно отмечали важность взаимодействия России и Европы, более того, они подчеркивали, что его надо усиливать. «Я бы хотел добавить, что у Европы два сердца — восточное и средиземноморское, — сказал профессор. — И второе очень близко русскому сердцу. Италия, Испания, Греция, Кипр, Мальта, Словения — у жителей этих стран весьма схожее мышление, и они хорошо понимают Россию».

As the director of the London Academy of Diplomacy Joseph Mifsud told the lenta.ru correspondent, Valdai experts repeatedly noted the importance of the interaction between Russia and Europe, moreover, they stressed that it should be strengthened. “I would like to add that Europe has two hearts - eastern and Mediterranean,” said the professor. - And the second is very close to the Russian heart. Italy, Spain, Greece, Cyprus, Malta, Slovenia - the inhabitants of these countries have very similar thinking, and they understand Russia well. “

Например, Джозеф Мифсуд в разговоре с нашим изданием отметил, что считает неправильным для какого-либо государства вмешиваться во внутреннюю политику России. «Решать это должны не США или Евросоюз, а граждане России, у которых есть право выбирать президента, — подчеркнул он. — У кого-либо извне такого права нет. Когда Запад пытается решать, как должна быть устроена власть в других государствах, мы получаем то, что сейчас творится в Сирии и Ливии, то есть полный беспорядок».

For example, Joseph Mifsud, in a conversation with our publication, noted that he considers it wrong for any state to interfere in Russia’s domestic policy. “It should not be decided by the US or the European Union, but by Russian citizens who have the right to choose the president,” he stressed. “Somebody outside has no such right.” When the West tries to decide how the authorities should be organized in other states, we get what is happening in Syria and Libya, that is, a complete mess. “

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:12:50pm

re: #197 makeitstop

Worth noting:
HW Bush - Germany reunification fast approaching, Berlin wall coming down

W Bush - 9/11 response, US forces in Afghanistan

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Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:13:45pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:14:15pm

I just read the Wiki page on one George Papadopoulos.

I found this very last paragraph big le’ interesting.

He was arrested at Washington Dulles Airport on July 27, 2017, and he has since been cooperating with Special Counsel Robert Mueller.[6] On October 5, 2017, Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to making false statements to FBI agents relating to contacts he had with agents of the Russian government while working for the Trump campaign.[12][13], Several documents related to his plea agreement were made public on October 30, 2017, the day Paul Manafort was indicted.[6]

Anyone remember reading anything about him being arrested? I can’t recall that. Seems Mueller pulled that off rather quietly. Or, everyone saw him as such a minor role player they ignored it.

July 26th was the date the FBI stopped in for a search on Manafort. Hmmmmm.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:14:56pm

Huh. That’s interesting.

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Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:16:28pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:16:56pm

re: #216 ObserverArt

I just read the Wiki page on one George Papadopoulos.

I found this very last paragraph big le’ interesting.

Anyone remember reading anything about him being arrested? I can’t recall that. Seems Mueller pulled that off rather quietly. Or, everyone saw him as such a minor role player they ignored it.

July 26th was the date the FBI stopped in for a search on Manafort. Hmmmmm.

I’m almost certain that nobody knew he’d been arrested. I do seem to recall some news a few months back about Papadopoulos pushing Russia connections to the campaign.

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freetoken  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:17:15pm

re: #217 Blind Frog Belly White

Interesting, yes, but the DC court is a very busy one and we have to assume there are many cases pending.

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:17:21pm

re: #216 ObserverArt

I just read the Wiki page on one George Papadopoulos.

I found this very last paragraph big le’ interesting.

Anyone remember reading anything about him being arrested? I can’t recall that. Seems Mueller pulled that off rather quietly. Or, everyone saw him as such a minor role player they ignored it.

July 26th was the date the FBI stopped in for a search on Manafort. Hmmmmm.

Trump should have never dragged the intel community.

As much as Mueller is going by the book, there’s got to be an element of payback involved as motivation.

And yeah, his team is leak-proof. Unless they want not to be.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:17:43pm

Oh. Well, sorry for the inconvenience, then.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:18:55pm

re: #218 Kragar

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:18:57pm

re: #220 freetoken

Interesting, yes, but the DC court is a very busy one and we have to assume there are many cases pending.

Yep. Hence, “Interesting”, rather than “suggestive”, or “indicative”.

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:19:23pm

re: #217 Blind Frog Belly White

Huh. That’s interesting.

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Junior, Sessions, Kushner…and Trump.

My wish list, anyway.

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freetoken  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:20:01pm

re: #210 KGxvi

Usually somewhere around 10%

So Manafort has to put up a million dollars if the bail is indeed set to $10M?

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KGxvi  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:20:15pm

re: #220 freetoken

Interesting, yes, but the DC court is a very busy one and we have to assume there are many cases pending.

Oh, come on! Why can’t we engage in reckless speculation for just a bit?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:20:16pm

re: #215 Kragar

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“DO SOMETHING ELSE!!!”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:20:58pm

re: #227 KGxvi

Oh, come on! Why can’t we engage in reckless speculation for just a bit?

“Would it be irresponsible to speculate? It would be irresponsible NOT to speculate.”

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sagehen  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:21:02pm

re: #197 makeitstop

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And GWB was only that high because of 9/11; on 9/10, his approval ratings were more like +5%.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:21:04pm

re: #223 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Trump benefited directly from Manafort’s illegally untaxed Russian money; he didn’t have to pay him for working as his consultant/campaign manager.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:21:09pm
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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:21:28pm
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Dr. Matt  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:21:35pm

The Russians Stole the U.S. Presidency

Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told Politico that no matter how much President Trump rants about the “Russia hoax,” the 2016 hacking was not only real and aimed at electing Trump but constituted a major victory for a dangerous foreign adversary.

Said Clapper: “The Russians have succeeded beyond their wildest expectations.”

He added that the investigation of whether Trump’s team colluded with Russia constitutes a “cloud not only over the president, but the office of the presidency, the administration, the government and the country” until it is resolved.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:24:16pm

re: #216 ObserverArt

I just read the Wiki page on one George Papadopoulos.

I found this very last paragraph big le’ interesting.

Anyone remember reading anything about him being arrested? I can’t recall that. Seems Mueller pulled that off rather quietly. Or, everyone saw him as such a minor role player they ignored it.

July 26th was the date the FBI stopped in for a search on Manafort. Hmmmmm.

It was in the news at the time, and the freepers were going berserk. Google lets you search by date range.
google.com

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:24:57pm
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danarchy  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:26:51pm

re: #233 JordanRules

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Umm…I’ve unfortunately had fox news on the TV here all day and they’ve been talking about Mueller and Manafort since fox and friends this morning. I’m all for calling out Fox news for their bullshit, but I am going to have to call this tweet out for being BS too.

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Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:27:01pm
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Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:27:13pm

unesco.fgp.msu.ru

The US does play a strong role in shaping the relationship between Russia and the EU, the EU does give in. But why is that so? The EU has a lot to lose.

Joseph Mifsud: I think President Putin was extremely disappointed on this point. He expected more from the West in terms of the European side to it. And it is interesting that the speech comes before the inauguration of the new European Commission. The new European Commission will be looking at things in a perhaps different way. I think the US will have to work much harder, if it wants to keep the same kind of stance with Russia with the support of Europe, because some of the people who have been put into place inside the European Commission are more diplomatically inclined to build a real dialog with Russia, more than their predecessors.

Is the US interested in strong Russia and in a good relationship with Russia?

Joseph Mifsud: I think the US is interested, but at the same time is extremely skeptical about actually having this kind of relationship. With its relationship with China, the stronger economic links through the BRICS, I think that there is a major concern that Russia is going its own way and that the no-rules-game is played by the Russian Federation.

Will the spiral of mistrust be reversed?

Joseph Mifsud: I think the key word which President Putin used was interdependence. The global security and the economy are part of this interdependence. I believe that whatever the US, the EU, Germany, Russia, China, all the others might decide and wish to do, it is all tired also to the fact that there are these two pillars. I believe that we cannot risk 5-10 or 15 years to put things in order or to come up with new rules. There isn’t that time, the global security and the economy will be continuing to deteriorate. I believe that people will actually see the sense.

One of the other perceptions, that was also mentioned, was - can the US continue with the world policing or with the Monroe doctrine. This is something which is extremely important. I don’t think that the US has the energy to continue with this. So, the global security and economy needs partners and who is better in this than the Russian Federation.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:27:17pm

re: #233 JordanRules

After ignoring Mueller story all day, Fox News now airing Shepard Smith’s show, a.k.a. “Reality Hour.”

none of their sources would confirm….

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Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:27:28pm
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freetoken  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:27:37pm

I wonder why SHS stays in this job. She looks so unhappy. I’m going to go with the idea that after decades of programming by her slickster father, she now feels Je$u$ put her in this job so she better not quit.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:28:58pm

re: #242 freetoken

Maybe they promised her an estate in “Georgia.”

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freetoken  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:29:14pm
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bratwurst  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:29:54pm
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Dr. Matt  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:31:22pm

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Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:31:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:31:29pm

re: #245 bratwurst

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Putin’s favorite American mouthpiece not named Trump says what.

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austin_blue  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:31:47pm

Ooh! Look what I found! Gates was still visiting the White House in June of this year, around the time that Papadopoulos was arrested!

thedailybeast.com

Note the date of the article.

And the lede:

Pro-Russian Lobbyist Is Lurking Around the White House
President Trump can’t keep the ghost of Russia out of the White House—the man who helped Paul Manafort work with the Russians is still on the scene.

ASAWIN SUEBSAENG
GIDEON RESNICK
06.14.17 1:00 AM ET
Rick Gates, the longtime lobbying partner of ousted Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, is still making multiple visits to the White House—even though the Trump administration has sought to distance itself from Manafort.
Manafort may be under investigation for alleged Russia ties, and thus persona non grata at the Trump White House. However, his top deputy Gates—who also worked on behalf of Russian interests—has managed to wedge himself back into Trump-world. having landed a sweet new gig with one of President Donald Trump’s best and wealthiest friends.

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KGxvi  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:31:54pm

re: #242 freetoken

I wonder why SHS stays in this job. She looks so unhappy. I’m going to go with the idea that after decades of programming by her slickster father, she now feels Je$u$ put her in this job so she better not quit.

My friend asked me this morning what was wrong with SHS’s eyes… I said I like to think that her eyes are just her body’s way of morally objecting to the lying that she’s doing.

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Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:33:09pm

re: #250 KGxvi

lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll’s eyes. When he comes at ya, doesn’t seem to be livin’… until he bites ya.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:34:09pm

re: #245 bratwurst

I’d tell him they’re demanding that he stop saying things that are false, but thin-skinned Glen has me blocked.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:34:15pm

re: #241 Kragar

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Verity: But it does mean that when he says a bed is two foot long, it is in fact sixty foot long, all right?

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:34:42pm

re: #250 KGxvi

My friend asked me this morning what was wrong with SHS’s eyes… I said I like to think that her eyes are just her body’s way of morally objecting to the lying that she’s doing.

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Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:34:51pm

Spinning furiously.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:35:41pm

re: #244 freetoken

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“That depends how we kill him, sir.”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:35:50pm

re: #254 jaunte

Fake. Her eyes are level, and we know that’s not true.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:36:15pm

re: #255 Nyet

Spinning furiously.

1. there was no collusion
2. if there was collusion US has done it too so shutup.

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Kilroy was here  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:36:25pm


Another winner from Twitter
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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:37:17pm

re: #247 Kragar

Netflix Pulls Plug On ‘House Of Cards’ Next Year After Kevin Spacey Sexual Advances Claims deadline.com

there’s gonna be no tv or movies left

sadly right wing news will march on

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Interesting Times  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:37:25pm

re: #216 ObserverArt

I just read the Wiki page on one George Papadopoulos.

Anyone remember reading anything about him being arrested? I can’t recall that. Seems Mueller pulled that off rather quietly. Or, everyone saw him as such a minor role player they ignored it.

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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:37:57pm

re: #237 danarchy

Keeping my pressure down so I wouldn’t be able to fact check that, the comments got your back though.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:38:15pm

re: #27 Jay C

Or, as an alternative scenario: brazen it out, fire Mueller, shut down the investigation, pardon anyone who needs one, and then dare Congress/the courts to do anything about it. And probably soon, so that it will be hoped to be forgotten by next year’s elections. Or buried by the news of some war that Trump will start to get a rally-round-the-flag effect.
Anyone here think that THIS Congress’s Republicans are likely to put the rule of law over their own political careers, or, more accurately, imperil their donor base’s investments??

I think this is the most likely scenario.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:38:47pm

Weirdly I may have been at Dulles the day Papadopoulis was arrested. Weird.

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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:39:26pm

re: #260 dangerman

They should let the amazingly talented Robin Wright run with it!

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freetoken  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:40:24pm

re: #261 Interesting Times

Heh, Mueller knew the worlds eyes would be on an idiot circus and thus could hide the arrests.

I imagine at the airport there were plenty of other people around who could see Papadopolous being arrested by the FBI, but they never recognized him and they were to busy looking for Bannon sex-pics on their phones to take a snap of what was going on around them.

re: #264 HappyWarrior

Not you, of course.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:40:39pm

re: #67 wrenchwench

With enough sopapilla, this can all be cleaned up.

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Killin me here. Boss bought lunch, but lunch delivery guy blew the address for the office.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:41:11pm

re: #254 jaunte

Sarah Sanders can dismiss George Papadopoulos as “this individual” & a “volunteer” all she wants. FBI has receipts: His emails to Sessions.

they have pictures
of him
at the table
with sessions
and trump

we all do

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:42:21pm

re: #266 freetoken

Heh, Mueller knew the worlds eyes would be on an idiot circus and thus could hide the arrests.

I imagine at the airport there were plenty of other people around who could see Papadopolous being arrested by the FBI, but they never recognized him and they were to busy looking for Bannon sex-pics on their phones to take a snap of what was going on around them.

Not you, of course.

Oh I don’t think I witnessed it. I just flew out of Dulles the night of the 27th. It’s just a weird coincidence since a lot of other people did too. I didn’t see anything out of the ordinary. But yeah.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:43:26pm

Yep I flew to Munich via Iceland on the 27th. Strange coincidence. But that’s just it. A coincidence.

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wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:44:34pm

re: #267 Unshaken Defiance

Killin me here. Boss bought lunch, but lunch delivery guy blew the address for the office.

The local School of Social Work sold me spaghetti to be delivered on Friday. I will forget by then. I wrote a note, I might remember because they said it would include a cookie.

It will take until Friday for your lunch to get here…

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ObserverArt  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:44:56pm

re: #235 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It was in the news at the time, and the freepers were going berserk. Google lets you search by date range.
google.com

Thanks! I was gonna do some Googlefu and you saved me the time.

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Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:46:19pm
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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:47:02pm

re: #270 HappyWarrior

Yep I flew to Munich via Iceland on the 27th. Strange coincidence. But that’s just it. A coincidence.

rule 39

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ericblair  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:47:35pm

re: #250 KGxvi

My friend asked me this morning what was wrong with SHS’s eyes… I said I like to think that her eyes are just her body’s way of morally objecting to the lying that she’s doing.

I just figured she was some sort of evil Ms. Potatohead. It would explain a lot.

Having a bit of a day, the poor dear, looks like. Pity. AHAHAHAHAHAHA

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:48:01pm
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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:48:02pm

re: #271 wrenchwench

The local School of Social Work sold me spaghetti to be delivered on Friday. I will forget by then. I wrote a note, I might remember because they said it would include a cookie.

It will take until Friday for your lunch to get here…

whitefish?

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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:48:28pm

re: #273 Kragar

80s kid so my mind immediately went here:

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:48:35pm

re: #273 Kragar

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This guy will probably get threats by stupid Trumpers.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:49:09pm

re: #279 JordanRules

80s kid so my mind immediately went here:

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Haha I did too. Good old Alex Karras.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:52:11pm
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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:52:21pm

Huh. They went with mass beheadings? Okay, interesting choice.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:53:16pm

re: #247 Kragar

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Well, it had gone into the weeds a bit. Mrs. FBW was having a hard time following it.

This looks like a bad time to have been a sexual predator. Good.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:54:28pm

re: #283 JordanRules

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Huh. They went with mass beheadings? Okay, interesting choice.

Considering you work for a guy who had a correspondent actually pull a gun out on protesters, Lucas…………

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:54:29pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:55:24pm

re: #261 Interesting Times

Sarah Kendzior ✔@sarahkendzior
On July 27, 2017, while Papadopoulos was being arrested, Twitter was discussing Scaramucci’s claim that Bannon can give himself blowjobs
3:29 PM - Oct 30, 2017

Wow. I guess it is true, when the Trump people do something outrageous it is to cover for something else.

The old slight of hand that goes over so well with our media.

Trump knows his street corner arts.

Trouble is that is kid’s play to someone like Mueller and his Team of Law Sharks.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:56:16pm

re: #286 FormerDirtDart

shorter sarah sanders: don’t know these people
never met
one day they just volunteered to run the campaign and we were too polite to say no

even shorter SHS:

i just got here, i swear

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:56:47pm

things wingnuts say

Why would Trump want to say anything bad about Putin? Putin did nothing wrong.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:58:42pm

re: #289 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

things wingnuts say

Why would Trump want to say anything bad about Putin? Putin did nothing wrong.

I do love how a former KGB officer became until Trump, the wingnuts favorite world leader. Not Merkel, a moderately conservative survival of the DDR or David Cameron but Vladimir fucking Putin. Wonder what Ronnie would think of his party faithful worshipping a KGB man.

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Jenner7  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:58:56pm
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Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:59:21pm

re: #273 Kragar

And we thought Charles had it bad.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:59:32pm

re: #283 JordanRules

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Huh. They went with mass beheadings? Okay, interesting choice.

Why am I always the last to know! Where’s my knife sharpener?

Gira la cote! Gira! Gira!
Gira la cote! Gira! Gira!
Gira!
Gira!
Gira!

YouTube

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:59:47pm

Unbelievable.
This nonsense was debunked about a month ago

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Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:00:09pm

re: #290 HappyWarrior

White, Christian, conservative, represses liberals. What more does one need?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:00:12pm

re: #288 dangerman

even shorter SHS:

i just got here, i swear

She should have sought work working for a scoundrel in a deeply red state where the truth doesn’t matter. None of these Trump people belong on a national or international stage.

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MsJ  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:01:03pm

re: #52 scottslemmons

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bill d. (b.d.)  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:01:46pm

re: #294 FormerDirtDart

Unbelievable.
This nonsense was debunked about a month ago

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YOU WON’T BE LAUGHING WHEN YOUR HEAD IS ROLLING ON THE FLOOR!!!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:02:07pm

re: #290 HappyWarrior

I do love how a former KGB officer became until Trump, the wingnuts favorite world leader. Not Merkel, a moderately conservative survival of the DDR or David Cameron but Vladimir fucking Putin. Wonder what Ronnie would think of his party faithful worshipping a KGB man.

If people really rolled in their graves, we could hook him up to an armature, and do away with all fossil fuels.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:02:19pm

re: #294 FormerDirtDart

ANTIFA Leader: “November 4th […] millions of antifa supersoldiers will behead all white parents”
— Jim Hoft

LOLWHUT

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:03:37pm

re: #294 FormerDirtDart

Unbelievable.
This nonsense was debunked about a month ago

Before or after Jade Helm 1517?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:03:41pm

re: #294 FormerDirtDart

Unbelievable.
This nonsense was debunked about a month ago

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:05:08pm

In answer to my passport question from earlier today..

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:05:45pm

re: #294 FormerDirtDart

ANTIFA Leader: “November 4th […] millions of antifa supersoldiers will behead all white parents”
— Jim Hoft

Where are these supersoldiers hanging out right now? Are they being manufactured or do they parachute in from someplace?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:05:49pm

re: #290 HappyWarrior

I do love how a former KGB officer became until Trump, the wingnuts favorite world leader. Not Merkel, a moderately conservative survival of the DDR or David Cameron but Vladimir fucking Putin. Wonder what Ronnie would think of his party faithful worshipping a KGB man.

ronald reagan? that liberal leftist rino?

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Stanley Sea  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:07:07pm

Sorry if posted.

Thread

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wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:07:13pm

re: #303 makeitstop

In answer to my passport question from earlier today..

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‘Flight risk’ is illustrated in #296

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:07:13pm

re: #303 makeitstop

In answer to my passport question from earlier today..

HOAX! WITCHHUNT! BIGGEST IN HISTORY! No collusion! What about Krooked Hillary?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:07:43pm

re: #295 Nyet

White, Christian, conservative, represses liberals. What more does one need?

No doubt. Also loves to appeal to a mythological past that never existed. Merkel while conservative is a forward looking leader.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:08:45pm

re: #304 Sir John Barron

Where are these supersoldiers hanging out right now? Are they being manufactured or do they parachute in from someplace?

They’re probably hanging out in Mexico with that ISIS army that is fixing to attack us.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:08:49pm

re: #294 FormerDirtDart

Unbelievable.
This nonsense was debunked about a month ago

Just the parents?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:10:12pm

And why small business owners? That little detail by Hoft’s pal made me laugh since my research on small businesses is going to be used by my boss to make an appeal for Democrats to try to appeal to small business owners more.

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:10:30pm

re: #306 Stanley Sea

Sorry if posted.

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I was just going to post that.

Mueller is operating at a level never before experienced by the Trump Cult. I get the feeling that they won’t know what hit them, even after they’re all on trial.

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:11:42pm

re: #304 Sir John Barron

Where are these supersoldiers hanging out right now? Are they being manufactured or do they parachute in from someplace?

In the tunnels under the abandoned Walmarts, silly!

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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:12:24pm
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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:12:42pm

re: #313 makeitstop

I was just going to post that.

Mueller is operating at a level never before experienced by the Trump Cult. I get the feeling that they won’t know what hit them, even after they’re all on trial.

Won’t matter. Whoever is indicted will be someone Team MAGA will claim had nothing to do with the campaign or Trump, even if Junior and Jared are indicted.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:13:46pm

re: #315 JordanRules

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Senior Policy Adviser. Could that be Flynn?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:14:03pm

re: #316 Sir John Barron

Won’t matter. Whoever is indicted will be someone Team MAGA will claim had nothing to do with the campaign or Trump, even if Junior and Jared are indicted.

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“Mr. Kushner has only been with the Administration a brief time. Hasn’t even shown up for work most days. Seems to spend a lot of time jetting hither and yon, god only knows why.”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:14:13pm

re: #315 JordanRules

I have a crush on Susan. She’s smart and beautiful, and if you see her on TV, she’s extremely awkward. All things I like.

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EPR-radar  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:14:39pm

re: #313 makeitstop

I was just going to post that.

Mueller is operating at a level never before experienced by the Trump Cult. I get the feeling that they won’t know what hit them, even after they’re all on trial.

That’s my feeling as well. In general there’s a lot of white collar crime that people get away with because it’s too hard to prove it. When people do get nailed for it, it is usually because one way or another they made themselves irresistible targets. Trump et al. have done that by winning the presidential election while being openly sleazy, and then pissing all over Federal Intelligence and Law Enforcement.

That is really fucking stupid.

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:14:52pm

re: #317 HappyWarrior

Senior Policy Adviser. Could that be Flynn?

Sessions.

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freetoken  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:15:00pm

re: #291 Jenner7

Is this the same Sam Clovis who Trump out in as the White House advisor in the Dep of Ag?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:15:10pm

“Mr. Trump, Jr’s shared name with the President is only a coincidence. He only is aware of one son, Barron.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:15:22pm

re: #321 makeitstop

Sessions.

Ah! Yeah that’s right.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:15:32pm

re: #316 Sir John Barron

“The President isn’t really close to Don Jr. Never really liked him. Or his mother. They haven’t spent much time together.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:16:00pm

re: #322 freetoken

Is this the same Sam Clovis who Trump out in as the White House advisor in the Dep of Ag?

ballotpedia.org
Appears that way.

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freetoken  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:16:26pm

re: #326 HappyWarrior

Good grief, what a nasty web Mueller has to uncover.

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MsJ  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:16:49pm

re: #68 jaunte

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KGxvi  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:17:48pm

re: #290 HappyWarrior

I do love how a former KGB officer became until Trump, the wingnuts favorite world leader. Not Merkel, a moderately conservative survival of the DDR or David Cameron but Vladimir fucking Putin. Wonder what Ronnie would think of his party faithful worshipping a KGB man.

Probably the same thing he said about the Democrats in 1962… I didn’t leave the party, the party left me.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:18:04pm

re: #327 freetoken

Good grief, what a nasty web Mueller has to uncover.

Yeah I feel bad for him. I hope after this is all done and the Good Guys get back in charge, Bob gets a much deserved retirement with his family. Mueller is a statesman. He’s someone who serves not a party but his country and has been doing that for many fifty years now.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:18:28pm

re: #329 KGxvi

Probably the same thing he said about the Democrats in 1962… I didn’t leave the party, the party left me.

Probably. I’m no Reagan fan but I imagine he would be disgusted at this.

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:18:41pm

Hey, those Trump tweets? Admissable in court, from the look of it.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:19:11pm

re: #304 Sir John Barron

Where are these supersoldiers hanging out right now? Are they being manufactured or do they parachute in from someplace?

My guess, they’re hiding in pizza parlor basements around the country.
Feasting on the hearts of missing children, for super strength, procured through the Clinton’s human trafficking ring

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:20:00pm

re: #332 makeitstop

Hey, those Trump tweets? Admissable in court, from the look of it.

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The courts have also used his campaign statements and postings to rule that the Muslim bans were in fact discriminatory. Trump’s fat mouth has been costing him. And hey Trumpers, that’s part of why you’re not getting what you want, your guy is a fucking idiot.

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wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:20:41pm

re: #332 makeitstop

Hey, those Trump tweets? Admissable in court, from the look of it.

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A screenshot to the heart. From a grassy knoll.

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Jenner7  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:20:52pm

At the time Clovis was Co -chair of the campaign.

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KGxvi  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:21:58pm

re: #331 HappyWarrior

Probably. I’m no Reagan fan but I imagine he would be disgusted at this.

I’ve always been fascinated with Reagan, read several biographies. Like all of us, he had his flaws, and he made some incredibly poor decisions that history will not look kindly on him for… but in the balance of all things, I think he was more good than bad.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:22:39pm

re: #332 makeitstop

Hey, those Trump tweets? Admissable in court, from the look of it.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:23:06pm

re: #325 Blind Frog Belly White

“The President isn’t really close to Don Jr. Never really liked him. Or his mother. They haven’t spent much time together.”

“The president isn’t even married to Don Junior’s mother anymore. So how could Don, Jr still be the president’s son? Don’t you get that?”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:23:14pm

re: #337 KGxvi

I’ve always been fascinated with Reagan, read several biographies. Like all of us, he had his flaws, and he made some incredibly poor decisions that history will not look kindly on him for… but in the balance of all things, I think he was more good than bad.

I take a more negative opinion of him but I hear you, I’m fascinated the same way by Nixon.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:23:53pm

re: #338 FormerDirtDart

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I believe that was more campaign ads and rhetoric rather than Tweets. Similar but perhaps not the same.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:26:21pm

re: #337 KGxvi

I’ve always been fascinated with Reagan, read several biographies. Like all of us, he had his flaws, and he made some incredibly poor decisions that history will not look kindly on him for… but in the balance of all things, I think he was more good than bad.

The gutting of the fairness doctrine under Reagan led to the brainwashing of Republicans. He also ignored the HIV (GRID at the time) crisis because it was mostly gay men who were getting sick. What could balance that out? Did he cure cancer?

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:26:54pm
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KGxvi  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:27:04pm

re: #338 FormerDirtDart

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Trump’s tweets probably qualify under at least three exceptions to hearsay.

Present sense impression, excited utterance, recorded recollection, records of regularly conducted activity, statements against interest (though the federal rule is a bit different than in California).

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Interesting Times  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:27:53pm

re: #340 HappyWarrior

I take a more negative opinion of him but I hear you, I’m fascinated the same way by Nixon.

So do I. In fact, I’d go so far as to say Reagan may just be the most overrated president ever. Remember El Salvadoran death squads? Iran-Contra? “State’s Rights”? Empowering the religious right? The grotesque deregulation (“Scariest words are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help’”) that led to the wealth inequality and environmental destruction we see today? Reagan helped to whitewash (pun intended) the absolute worst aspects of late-stage capitalism and reactionary right-wing extremism.

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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:28:12pm

re: #342 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Add in the bigotry that continued to decimate inner cities.

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KGxvi  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:28:26pm

re: #340 HappyWarrior

I take a more negative opinion of him but I hear you, I’m fascinated the same way by Nixon.

Growing up in Orange County, and going to high school just around the corner from the Nixon Library, he has always been another point of fascination for me.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:28:58pm

re: #345 Interesting Times

So do I. In fact, I’d go so far as to say Reagan may just be the most overrated president ever. Remember El Salvadoran death squads? Iran-Contra? “State’s Rights”? Empowering the religious right? The grotesque deregulation (“Scariest words are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help’”) that led to the wealth inequality and environmental destruction we see today? Reagan helped to whitewash (pun intended) the absolute worst aspects of late-stage capitalism and reactionary right-wing extremism.

Right. Total agreement there.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:30:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:30:45pm

re: #347 KGxvi

Growing up in Orange County, and going to high school just around the corner from the Nixon Library, he has always been another point of fascination for me.

Nixon is fascinating due he had potential to be good but his paranoia did him in. I’m a big Truman fan. My grandfather always told me how happy he was when Truman fired MacArthur- he was in the Army at the time in Korea.

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Interesting Times  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:32:29pm

Gorbachev is the one who deserves most of the credit for the Cold War’s end. Reagan’s administration was the cancer inflicted on America that led to the orange tumor metastasizing in the White House now.

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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:32:43pm
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freetoken  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:32:58pm

Well, today did not disappoint.

But I am still skeptical that the GOP-run Congress will do anything. They’ve pretty much rubber-stamped Trump’s nominees (the few he’s actually done), and only in the Senate have a couple of committees really done any investigation and then they’ve not really forced anything, just pile up information.

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Interesting Times  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:33:26pm

Ooof:

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:34:35pm

re: #351 Interesting Times

Gorbachev is the one who deserves most of the credit for the Cold War’s end. Reagan’s administration was the cancer inflicted on America that led to the orange tumor metastasizing in the White House now.

Reagan was lucky to have dealt with Gorby. I doubt things turn out the same with Yuri Andropov or Cherenko. Honestly I think the people of the Eastern Bloc don’t get enough credit.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:35:11pm

re: #352 JordanRules

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Well this may be her last birthday as a free woman for a while.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:37:02pm

re: #317 HappyWarrior

Senior Policy Adviser. Could that be Flynn?

Sessions

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:37:05pm

Honestly with Reagan, it’s that I hate the attempts to elevate him to the same level as Washington or Lincoln. That actually offends me a little.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:37:17pm

re: #357 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sessions

Yep already called.

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:37:21pm

What will be really hilarious is when he blames the voters for putting him in office.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:39:13pm

re: #360 Belafon

What will be really hilarious is when he blames the voters for putting him in office.

He’s right, we are idiots who shouldn’t be trusted with the vote! Ban elected government!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:39:19pm

re: #360 Belafon

What will be really hilarious is when he blames the voters for putting him in office.

They really should have known better.

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Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:40:30pm
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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:41:50pm
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sagehen  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:43:16pm

re: #347 KGxvi

Growing up in Orange County, and going to high school just around the corner from the Nixon Library, he has always been another point of fascination for me.

Nixon has redeeming value, legitimate counterweight to the shit he deserves criticism for.

EPA
OSHA
Title IX
Title X
Affirmative Action
opened/normalized relations with China
saved Israel in 1973

Sure he was a criminal, but I have a soft spot for him anyway.

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:43:37pm

re: #358 HappyWarrior

Honestly with Reagan, it’s that I hate the attempts to elevate him to the same level as Washington or Lincoln. That actually offends me a little.

When Reagan testified related to communists in Hollywood at the House Unamerican Affairs Committee:

The hearings opened with appearances by Walt Disney and Ronald Reagan, then president of the Screen Actors Guild. Disney testified that the threat of Communists in the film industry was a serious one, and named specific people who had worked for him as probable Communists.[14] Reagan testified that a small clique within his union was using “communist-like tactics” in attempting to steer union policy, but that he did not know if those (unnamed) members were communists or not, and that in any case he thought the union had them under control.[15] (Later his first wife, actress Jane Wyman stated in her biography with Joe Morella [1985] that Reagan’s allegations against friends and colleagues led to tension in their marriage, eventually resulting in their divorce). Actor Adolphe Menjou declared, “I am a witch hunter if the witches are Communists. I am a Red-baiter. I would like to see them all back in Russia.”[16]

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:43:56pm

re: #364 JordanRules

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Religious freedom isn’t for those people.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:45:08pm

re: #366 Belafon

When Reagan testified related to communists in Hollywood at the House Unamerican Affairs Committee:

I like what James Garner said about Reagan.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:47:01pm

re: #365 sagehen

Nixon has redeeming value, legitimate counterweight to the shit he deserves criticism for.

EPA
OSHA
Title IX
Title X
Affirmative Action
opened/normalized relations with China
saved Israel in 1973

Sure he was a criminal, but I have a soft spot for him anyway.

I see Nixon’s legacy and think of Neil Young- Even Richard Nixon’s got soul. Complicated man who I really think had potential to be a very good president. LBJ fascinates me too because of his sheer brilliance in understanding politics.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:47:28pm

re: #367 HappyWarrior

Religious freedom isn’t for those people.

Any religion is fine as long as it’s Christianity.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:50:25pm
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Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:51:25pm

re: #370 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Any religion is fine as long as it’s Christianity.

We’ve got both kinds of music here. Country and Western.

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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:53:12pm
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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:55:46pm
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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:56:46pm

re: #373 JordanRules

Trump/GOP are stacking the judiciary with their right wing extremists who are hellbent on rolling back civil and voting rights, and reproductive health rights/access, including birth control and abortion.

Period. That’s their goal and intent, and the Democrats don’t have the votes to block them.

Elections have consequences, and there are still too many fuckers out there who think the parties and candidates are all alike. Sorry, there’s no way to not be blunt about this.

If you think Clinton judicial picks would be gutting access for health coverage or undermining Roe, you’d be sorely mistaken.

Instead of expanding civil and voting rights, the GOP is intent on gutting those protections. Trump’s turned over his judicial picking to the most extreme groups out there, and they’re getting their wish list of reactionary know-nothings and extremists who make Gorsuch look like a boy scout.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:57:18pm

re: #373 JordanRules

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JFC.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:58:21pm

re: #284 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, it had gone into the weeds a bit. Mrs. FBW was having a hard time following it.

This looks like a bad time to have been a sexual predator. Good.

Rick Wilson agrees.

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Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:59:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:59:06pm

re: #375 lawhawk

Trump/GOP are stacking the judiciary with their right wing extremists who are hellbent on rolling back civil and voting rights, and reproductive health rights/access, including birth control and abortion.

Period. That’s their goal and intent, and the Democrats don’t have the votes to block them.

Elections have consequences, and there are still too many fuckers out there who think the parties and candidates are all alike. Sorry, there’s no way to not be blunt about this.

If you think Clinton judicial picks would be gutting access for health coverage or undermining Roe, you’d be sorely mistaken.

Instead of expanding civil and voting rights, the GOP is intent on gutting those protections. Trump’s turned over his judicial picking to the most extreme groups out there, and they’re getting their wish list of reactionary know-nothings and extremists who make Gorsuch look like a boy scout.

The most moderate Democratic judicial picks are miles better than the most moderate GOP picks. I appreciate Kennedy protecting ssm but I’d rather have more Garlands on the court then Kennedys.

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KGxvi  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:59:55pm

re: #369 HappyWarrior

I see Nixon’s legacy and think of Neil Young- Even Richard Nixon’s got soul. Complicated man who I really think had potential to be a very good president. LBJ fascinates me too because of his sheer brilliance in understanding politics.

1960 was very much a turning point in our history. If Nixon wins, he probably does a lot of the same things, but doesn’t develop the resentment/paranoia that the 1960 and 1962 losses generated, so there’s likely no Watergate situation. He probably supports the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act (he was at least partly responsible for shepherding the Civil Rights Act of 1957). Goldwater doesn’t run in ‘64, which means the rise of the conservative movement doesn’t get its creation myth. JFK probably doesn’t run in ‘64 but does run in ‘68. The Vietnam War likely goes very differently, as does the Bay of Pigs, I would think.

It’s what the Doctor might call a fixed point in time.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:02:02pm

re: #380 KGxvi

1960 was very much a turning point in our history. If Nixon wins, he probably does a lot of the same things, but doesn’t develop the resentment/paranoia that the 1960 and 1962 losses generated, so there’s likely no Watergate situation. He probably supports the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act (he was at least partly responsible for shepherding the Civil Rights Act of 1957). Goldwater doesn’t run in ‘64, which means the rise of the conservative movement doesn’t get its creation myth. JFK probably doesn’t run in ‘64 but does run in ‘68. The Vietnam War likely goes very differently, as does the Bay of Pigs, I would think.

It’s what the Doctor might call a fixed point in time.

It’s something interesting to think about for sure. Another what if regarding Nixon is what if Ike takes him off as VP.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:03:08pm

well! i’m sure he sounds just like a typical native born american!

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the US does not have a good name. Nothing against the people, but the Government couldn’t be any more corrupt. Time to open your eyes, as the rest of the world has been seeing it for decades.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:04:00pm

re: #374 JordanRules

Exclusive: @SenatorCollins lays out her demands on a tax bill

—No estate tax repeal
—No rate cuts for millionaireshttps://t.co

— Sahil Kapur

WHATABOUT ALL THE SMALLFAMILYFARMS?!?!??!?!?

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sagehen  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:04:30pm

re: #380 KGxvi

1960 was very much a turning point in our history. If Nixon wins, he probably does a lot of the same things, but doesn’t develop the resentment/paranoia that the 1960 and 1962 losses generated, so there’s likely no Watergate situation. He probably supports the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act (he was at least partly responsible for shepherding the Civil Rights Act of 1957). Goldwater doesn’t run in ‘64, which means the rise of the conservative movement doesn’t get its creation myth. JFK probably doesn’t run in ‘64 but does run in ‘68. The Vietnam War likely goes very differently, as does the Bay of Pigs, I would think.

It’s what the Doctor might call a fixed point in time.

Nixon actually ran on Civil Rights in 1960.

1960 - Nixon on Civil Rights

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freetoken  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:04:41pm

re: #373 JordanRules

This is why the GOP in Congress don’t want to get rid of Trump - they still have use for him. Whether it be their religious right agenda, or tax cuts for their sponsors, Trump is glad to accommodate them.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:06:45pm

re: #384 sagehen

Nixon actually ran on Civil Rights in 1960.

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nixon had a lot of virtues

being an honest campaigner and being psychologically capable of dealing with the office of president were not among them

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Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:07:52pm
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Belafon  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:08:38pm

dailykos.com

Read the indictments. Most of Manafort’s laundered millions moved through Cyprus, mostly through the Bank of Cyprus then from there into anonymous accounts.

So what?

So who was the Vice-Chairman of the Bank of Cyprus while this was going on?

Wilbur Ross.

Who is Wilbur Ross?

He is now Trump’s Secretary of Commerce.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:10:54pm

re: #387 Kragar

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Chins strap.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:11:09pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:11:46pm

re: #384 sagehen

Nixon actually ran on Civil Rights in 1960.

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Makes the Southern Strategy all the more infuriating.

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Kilroy was here  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:12:15pm

re: #387 Kragar

Isn’t that more a chin simulator?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:12:41pm

re: #388 Belafon

dailykos.com

Swamp the drain.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:13:30pm

re: #349 Ace-o-aces

Way to play it close to the vest dude!

No one ever expects the Antifa Supersoldiers.

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Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:13:43pm

re: #390 jaunte

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:13:54pm

re: #390 jaunte

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Pence is Manafort’s guy.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:15:33pm

re: #387 Kragar

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Sgt Schultz cosplay!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:16:05pm

re: #396 HappyWarrior

Pence is Manafort’s guy.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:16:57pm

re: #373 JordanRules

In about an hour, the Senate is voting to confirm this woman to a lifetime seat on a US Circuit Court.

Sitting out elections has consequences.

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freetoken  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:18:14pm

re: #391 HappyWarrior

Makes the Southern Strategy all the more infuriating.

Nixon is an excellent example of power corrupting.

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sagehen  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:18:29pm

re: #373 JordanRules

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Just one more reason the sight of Susan Sarandon makes me nauseous.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:19:30pm

re: #398 Blind Frog Belly White

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Funny how that worked out. I’d love to see Kaine debate Christie.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:19:53pm

Has anyone identified Putin’s niece yet?
I’m sure everyone is wondering if it’s…
Natalia Veselnitskaya

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:19:58pm

re: #400 freetoken

Nixon is an excellent example of power corrupting.

Certainly.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:20:32pm

“…One potential avenue is legislation crafted by Rep. Ron DeSantis, a Florida Republican and member of the House Freedom Caucus, an influential bloc of conservative lawmakers. DeSantis offered an amendment to a House spending package in August that would have barred Mueller from pursuing criminal charges for any conduct occurring before March 2015. That would have severely complicated Mueller’s indictments of Paul Manafort and Rick Gates, which rely in large part on alleged criminal conduct prior to the 2016 presidential campaign, when the two lobbied on behalf of a pro-Russia political party in Ukraine.
DeSantis’s amendment would also have given Mueller six months to wrap up his investigation before the special counsel’s office was completely defunded.

That Bannon, he’s a political genius. Nothing suspicious about carving out special time limits for an investigation.

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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:21:02pm

re: #399 Decatur Deb

And hopefully today will get us closer to being able to say “colluding with a foreign Government to influence an *election has consequences” too.

*election of a party doing everything it can legally and otherwise to subvert the vote and continue systemic dynamics of white supremacy

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:21:18pm

re: #403 FormerDirtDart

Has anyone identified Putin’s niece yet?
I’m sure everyone is wondering if it’s…
Natalia Veselnitskaya

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It must be his wife’s niece. Putin’s brothers died as kids.

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Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:21:38pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:22:14pm

re: #405 jaunte

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That Bannon, he’s a political genius. Nothing suspicious about carving out special time limits for an investigation.

Try it, you pock marked asshole. I’d love to see a Mueller ruin the Breitbart empire.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:23:14pm

re: #403 FormerDirtDart

Has anyone identified Putin’s niece yet?
I’m sure everyone is wondering if it’s…
Natalia Veselnitskaya

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I hear she works for the Crown Prosecutor of Russia.
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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:24:16pm

re: #400 freetoken

Nixon is an excellent example of power corrupting.

He was pretty corrupt when he was relatively new to power.

In his memoirs, Nixon recounts that he joined the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) “at the end of 1947.” However, he was already a HUAC member in early February 1947, when he heard “Enemy Number One” Gerhard Eisler and his sister Ruth Fischer testify. On February 18, 1947, Nixon referred to Eisler’s belligerence toward HUAC in his maiden speech to the House. Also by early February 1947, fellow U.S. Representative Charles J. Kersten had introduced him to Father John Francis Cronin in Baltimore, who shared with Nixon his 1945 privately circulated paper “The Problem of American Communism in 1945,” [54] with much information from the FBI’s William C. Sullivan (who by 1961 would head domestic intelligence under Hoover).[55]

en.wikipedia.org

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Jenner7  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:27:05pm
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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:27:29pm

re: #398 Blind Frog Belly White

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in retrospect, with everything else, “bridgegate” would have been a nothingburger buried under so much of that other nonsense

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:27:52pm

Record late arrival for today’s Fox Insider email. Must have been a lengthy, heated debate in the editorial offices, because they’re actually having to confront the news of the day.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:27:55pm

re: #412 Jenner7

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Maybe you shouldn’t have colluded.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:28:10pm

re: #407 HappyWarrior

It must be his wife’s niece. Putin’s brothers died as kids.

Papadopoulos’ “Putin’s niece” was never Putin’s niece. That’s why I posited Natalia Veselnitskaya.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:28:50pm

re: #416 FormerDirtDart

Papadopoulos’ “Putin’s niece” was never Putin’s niece. That’s why I posited Natalia Veselnitskaya.

Ah d’oh.

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:28:52pm

re: #407 HappyWarrior

It must be his wife’s niece. Putin’s brothers died as kids.

Part of the indictment said that Papadopolos was enticed to meet with a woman who was Putin’s niece - but later he found out it wasn’t true.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:30:19pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:31:30pm

re: #418 makeitstop

Part of the indictment said that Papadopolos was enticed to meet with a woman who was Putin’s niece - but later he found out it wasn’t true.

My bad.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:31:42pm

re: #365 sagehen

Nixon has redeeming value, legitimate counterweight to the shit he deserves criticism for.

EPA
OSHA
Title IX
Title X
Affirmative Action
opened/normalized relations with China
saved Israel in 1973

Sure he was a criminal, but I have a soft spot for him anyway.

I agree it’s a disservice to us all to put any off the 44 previous Presidents into a box of either all “good” or “bad”. I withhold my opinion on this wrt POTUS 45

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MsJ  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:32:00pm

re: #250 KGxvi

My friend asked me this morning what was wrong with SHS’s eyes… I said I like to think that her eyes are just her body’s way of morally objecting to the lying that she’s doing.

The botox doesn’t help. (I’ve used Botox and I can identify it at a glance. It’s proof positive in the arch of the eyebrows.) The whole package gives a weird look of incredulity, cluelessness and evil.

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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:32:32pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:32:56pm

re: #419 jaunte

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Fox really is pathetic aren’t they?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:33:21pm

re: #419 jaunte

[Fox News is now attacking the FAMILIES of the judges presiding over the Manafort indictment

Good move. That always makes judges more judgemental.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:33:31pm

re: #412 Jenner7

Trump is worried special counsel’s investigation will “hamstring” his ability to negotiate with world leaders, senior WH official says

Official adds: “World is less safe because of this investigation and it will remain less safe until it is over.” No evidence on this front

[cough] whitewater [cough]
[cough] clinton impeachment [cough]
[cough] benghazi [cough]

who knew presidenting would be so hard?
i’ll channel rumsfeld: suck it up donny. play the hand you have, not the one you wish you had

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wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:33:34pm

re: #413 dangerman

in retrospect, with everything else, “bridgegate” would have been a nothingburger buried under so much of that other nonsense

That’s the only kind of burger Christie doesn’t like.

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:34:08pm

Posopiec is such a freakin’ moron.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:34:20pm

re: #412 Jenner7

Official adds: “World is less safe because of this investigation and it will remain less safe until it is over.” No evidence on this front

well there is another interpretation:

if the investigation boots trump, we’d all be a lot safer

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:35:50pm

Thread: A Day On Fox

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:36:09pm

Evening Lizardim. So, it’s Manafort’s neck in the noose, eh? Is Trump going to pardon him?

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:36:37pm
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MsJ  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:36:45pm

re: #262 JordanRules

Keeping my pressure down so I wouldn’t be able to fact check that, the comments got your back though.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:36:59pm

re: #377 Blind Frog Belly White

Rick Wilson agrees.

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I couldn’t get through the first season. I can put up with realistic moral gray areas but the point of view in House of Cards was just so utterly amoral and psychopathic that I was genuinely disgusted.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:37:13pm
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fern01  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:37:23pm

re: #214 FormerDirtDart

Worth noting:
HW Bush - Germany reunification fast approaching, Berlin wall coming down

W Bush - 9/11 response, US forces in Afghanistan

Which is why the president* is so keen on the idea of war with NK

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:39:42pm

re: #435 jaunte

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He’s only two years younger than Miller and Trump personally spoke high of him.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:39:50pm

re: #431 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Evening Lizardim. So, it’s Manafort’s neck in the noose, eh? Is Trump going to pardon him?

Manafort who?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:40:27pm

FNC has been trying to make this into nothing for months but they won’t succeed.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:40:58pm

re: #438 Decatur Deb

Manafort who?

Oh, right, my bad. BUT HER OPPO DOSSIER!!!!!

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gwangung  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:41:39pm

re: #439 HappyWarrior

FNC has been trying to make this into nothing for months but they won’t succeed.

Well, not to anyone with an IQ above room temperature.

Trump still gets plenty of support from Republicans, though.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:41:44pm
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Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:41:58pm
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fern01  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:47:25pm

re: #238 Kragar

Their ONLY defense is Clinton - and coming from the president* of the United States - sure sounds like obstruction of justice to me - could he be charged with same at some point in the future - would be most interesting to hear him denying each and every tweet sent in his name.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:48:09pm
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MsJ  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:48:31pm

re: #317 HappyWarrior

Senior Policy Adviser. Could that be Flynn?

LetItBeSessionsLetItBeSessionsLetItBeSessionsLetItBeSessions.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:57:08pm

re: #446 MsJ

LetItBeSessionsLetItBeSessionsLetItBeSessionsLetItBeSessions.

The Flower of Southern Poltroonhood.

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Brian J.  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:57:13pm

re: #441 gwangung

Well, not to anyone with an IQ above room temperature.

Trump still gets plenty of support from Republicans, though.

And the Neu Volkischer Beobachter, I mean the New York Times.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:57:22pm

re: #389 Blind Frog Belly White

Chins strap.

His chin is more of a suggestion…like lane lines in Manhattan.

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Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:57:51pm

So I finally drag my carcass out of bed to find out that I was right, the WH is spinning like mad to argue that the charges themselves “prove” that they’ve done nothing wrong.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:04:06pm

re: #450 Targetpractice

So I finally drag my carcass out of bed to find out that I was right, the WH is spinning like mad to argue that the charges themselves “prove” that they’ve done nothing wrong.

right - cause mueller’s done and wont indict anyone else for anything ever again //

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:04:15pm
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451_Montag  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:04:29pm

Interesting CNN is starting each section with Papadopoulos, then going into “also Paul Manafort”. Feels like they know something. Just a change in tone that is wiggling my antenna.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:06:05pm

re: #451 dangerman

right - cause mueller’s done and wont indict anyone else for anything ever again

Heh. With any luck, this is just an attention-getter.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:06:17pm

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:07:14pm

re: #455 Stanley Sea

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Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:07:29pm

re: #451 dangerman

right - cause mueller’s done and wont indict anyone else for anything ever again

From all indications, Mueller is doing exactly what we expected him to do: Work his way up the food chain. The way the WH is spinning like a dynamo says people in the know have been talking to Papadopoulos for months since he was turned and probably said shit that will come back to haunt them.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:07:40pm

From Political-wire.com
Reaction from inside the whitehouse

Nobody was surprised to learn that former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort is the first to be publicly indicted, along with his business partner Rick Gates, for alleged money laundering, failing to disclose foreign lobbying, and tax violations.”

“One of those sources told me ‘people are relieved it’s Manafort and not Flynn’ who was indicted.”

you moran, you all just pointed a collective finger at flynn

(not that we didnt already know)

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:08:46pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:09:40pm

re: #456 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:09:44pm
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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:09:59pm

re: #456 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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everyone gets a vacation
thats how we find out who’s been stealing and/or not doing their job

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451_Montag  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:10:26pm

re: #454 Decatur Deb

Heh. With any luck, this is just an attention-getter.

And don’t forget all the speculation he was going to go after lower level guys and work up. Hell he did the equivalent of throwing a hand grenade right into the middle of it all. Manafort had direct contact with Trump. Couldn’t be any closer unless we find out he is Trumps kid by an Atlantic City stripper.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:11:03pm

re: #370 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Any religion is fine as long as it’s Christianity.

Got both country and western

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:11:03pm

re: #459 jaunte

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The far left hate HRC just as much as the far right does. The YT/Intercept types pretty much proved the circular political spectrum correct this past fall. And honestly if Sanders wants to sell himself as a leader, he should be commenting on this stuff.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:11:21pm

re: #461 jaunte

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That’s a lot of people.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:11:41pm

re: #466 HappyWarrior

Pretty amazing reach.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:11:53pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:12:09pm

re: #463 451_Montag

And don’t forget all the speculation he was going to go after lower level guys and work up. Hell he did the equivalent of throwing a hand grenade right into the middle of it all. Manafort had direct contact with Trump. Couldn’t be any closer unless we find out he is Trumps kid by an Atlantic City stripper.

He probably did, at least at an informal level, start needling people lower down until they led him to a juicy target like Manafort.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:13:08pm

re: #468 Stanley Sea

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Oh yeah. Papadoulis is only one egg in the rotten egg basket.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:13:27pm

Today is going to be remembered as The Implosion

Also Maggie H & Ivanka T’s Birthdays.

Many happy returns!

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:13:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:13:43pm

re: #467 jaunte

Pretty amazing reach.

I can tell you this much being on FB, it’s astounding how many people far left and far right parrot Kremlin talking points.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:14:35pm

FakeBook.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:14:38pm

I really blame this culture of re-enforcement bias. And the two most divisive campaigns in each party last year engaged in it heavily.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:15:19pm

re: #461 jaunte

In other news…Facebook will tell Congress that 126 million people were served content from Russia-linked pages

So FB is a Trojan Horse, perhaps even with real trojans.

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451_Montag  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:16:02pm

re: #469 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He probably did, at least at an informal level, start needling people lower down until they led him to a juicy target like Manafort.

I’ve sort of got the feeling that he didn’t need anyone for Manafort, simply forensic accounting. It was pretty well known that he was a shill for the bad guys. Even his daughters called it blood money. I’m leaning towards Manafort being used to Telegraph that nobody is safe with a nice healthy dollop of “see how thorough we’ve been” just to put the shits up them.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:16:18pm
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The Major  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:16:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:17:23pm

re: #478 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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You know, I had heard rumors he was gay for years but never that he was a creeper. These allegations which I do believe are sad because I’ve always liked Spacey’s work as an actor.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:18:18pm

re: #472 Charles Johnson

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A few milligrams of polonium is a relatively small scale compared to a whole taco.

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Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:19:07pm

“Nobody was in contact with the Russians! There was no collusion!”

“There was this foreign policy advisor who Trump touted as an addition to his campaign who was in active contact with Russians offering dirt on Hillary, as well as the campaign manager who had a long history of working with Russians….”

“NOBODY IMPORTANT HAS BEEN IMPLICATED!!!!”

Not a good way to look.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:20:09pm

here’s a good question that i didnt think up all by myself

why is the white house worried about a campaign adviser pleading guilty to what they know is fake news?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:20:20pm

re: #449 Mike Lamb

His chin is more of a suggestion…like lane lines in Manhattan.

There are lane lines in Manhattan?
//

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:21:26pm

re: #482 Targetpractice

“Nobody was in contact with the Russians! There was no collusion!”

“There was this foreign policy advisor who Trump touted as an addition to his campaign who was in active contact with Russians offering dirt on Hillary, as well as the campaign manager who had a long history of working with Russians….”

“NOBODY IMPORTANT HAS BEEN IMPLICATED!!!!”

Not a good way to look.

I can’t wait to see how they grasp at straws next. They really aren’t helping themselves in their defense. No complaints there. This admin is full of crooks.

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Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:22:44pm

re: #480 HappyWarrior

You know, I had heard rumors he was gay for years but never that he was a creeper. These allegations which I do believe are sad because I’ve always liked Spacey’s work as an actor.

Speaking of which, Jeepers Creepers III is out (the director is a convicted pedophile btw).

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wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:22:46pm

re: #474 jaunte

FakeBook.

Note on my office wall, pertaining to what, I don’t know, dated 5-11-11, credited to Mr. w:

You have to know when to do an about-face [Book].

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:23:32pm

re: #486 Nyet

Speaking of which, Jeepers Creepers III is out (the director is a convicted pedophile btw).

Yeah he is.

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The Major  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:25:38pm

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The Major  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:28:00pm

re: #475 HappyWarrior

No kidding - I was going to re-calibrate my beloved, but alas, I need to walk away for a bit while I got my copus menti stabilized….

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:28:06pm

i have to tear myself away and go put some dinner together

but don’t… you know… don’t

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:28:26pm

re: #489 The Major

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Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:28:41pm

I remember a time when wingnuts thought that they were gonna bring down Hillary because of her “lies” to the FBI. Today must be a truly bitter moment for them.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:30:20pm

re: #493 Targetpractice

I remember a time when wingnuts thought that they were gonna bring down Hillary because of her “lies” to the FBI. Today must be a truly bitter moment for them.

I heard so many of them say “If I did what she did, I’d be in jail.”

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:31:03pm

re: #493 Targetpractice

This hasn’t raised any doubts with many. They’re still raving like a bunch of crazed parrots.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:32:19pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:32:20pm

You know what Trumpers, you deserve this. It’s not our fault. It’s not SJWs fault. It’s your fault. You couldn’t take any criticism so you went out and nominated and then elected a man who was totally unfit for the office because you didn’t like President Obama telling you some hard truths like Muslims have freedom of religion too, LGBT people have the same rights to marry as you do, and transpeople shouldn’t be treated like shit by society just because your outdated notions say they should. You cry about us looking down on you. You’re the ones who look down on anyone who isn’t a pasty right wing asshole who wants to make this a theocracy.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:33:27pm

re: #495 jaunte

This hasn’t raised any doubts with many. They’re still raving like a bunch of crazed parrots.

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I think Jeanne’s still bitter that she never got to run against HRC for the Senate and I think she’s delusional enough to think she would have won.I think she owes her job on FNC for that simple reason. She’s a bitter, bitter person like so many of those at FNC.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:33:53pm

re: #497 HappyWarrior

You know what Trumpers, you deserve this. It’s not our fault. It’s not SJWs fault. It’s your fault. You couldn’t take any criticism so you went out and nominated and then elected a man who was totally unfit for the office because you didn’t like President Obama because he was an intelligent, educated, successful black man.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:34:07pm

This is turning out to be one of the better days we’ve had in quite a while.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:35:13pm

re: #499 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That too. Oh man, they hated that because Obama unlike McCain(Admiral’s kid), Romney(Governor and Auto Exec’s kid), and Trump actually earned everything he had. I’ll give McCain more credit than Mitt and Trump though.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:35:48pm

re: #500 Charles Johnson

This is turning out to be one of the better days we’ve had in quite a while.

We needed it and I think it’s going to help us in the elections next week. Hell, it may even help Jones against Moore in Alabama.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:36:05pm

re: #500 Charles Johnson

This is turning out to be one of the better days we’ve had in quite a while.

We had to wait for someone to dot his I’s and cross his T’s and make sure that everything he did was watertight and incontrovertible. Mueller knew what the spin and the backlash were gonna look like and had to make sure he was irreproachable in his methods and results.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:36:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:37:33pm

re: #504 jaunte

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DJT Jr could well end up in the docket himself.

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wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:37:41pm

Paul Man-a-fort.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:38:02pm

Sagehen posted on Nixon running on a civil rights platform in 1960. Here is a photo (too big to embed) of him campaigning in Pittsburgh’s Hill District, that October.

Image: 5226.jpg

It’s from the collection of Teenie Harris, photographer for the Pittsburgh Courier.

press.cmoa.org

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:38:21pm

re: #505 HappyWarrior

Impressive powers of denial.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:38:56pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:39:59pm

re: #501 HappyWarrior

That too. Oh man, they hated that because Obama unlike McCain(Admiral’s kid), Romney(Governor and Auto Exec’s kid), and Trump actually earned everything he had. I’ll give McCain more credit than Mitt and Trump though.

That was a point that miffed me off and showed Conservatism’s True Colors: Obama could have been held up as a poster Child for the American Dream: namely, that anyone, regardless of race or social origin who works hard enough can rise to the highest office in the nation.

But that would have meant acknowledging, however grudgingly, his accomplishments and his dedication to his pursuit of excellence.

And there was something about him that prevented them from doing anything but calling him a Kenyan usurper, Manchurian candidate, affirmative-action upstart or a secret Muslim terrorist sympathizer.

511
The Major  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:41:08pm

re: #504 jaunte

512
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:41:26pm

re: #480 HappyWarrior

You know, I had heard rumors he was gay for years but never that he was a creeper. These allegations which I do believe are sad because I’ve always liked Spacey’s work as an actor.

Same here.

513
Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:42:00pm

re: #507 Decatur Deb

Sorry—lost control of that photo’s size. Just check the second link—it’s the second photo.

514
The Major  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:44:08pm

re: #509 jaunte

515
wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:45:03pm
516
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:46:55pm

re: #515 wrenchwench

Remember, @realDonaldTrump STILL hasn’t released his taxes. My statement on the indictments against Trump campaign officials filed today:

If this investigation results in DT’s tax records being brought to light, it will be considered a major triumph on that account alone.

517
austin_blue  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:46:55pm

re: #463 451_Montag

And don’t forget all the speculation he was going to go after lower level guys and work up. Hell he did the equivalent of throwing a hand grenade right into the middle of it all. Manafort had direct contact with Trump. Couldn’t be any closer unless we find out he is Trumps kid by an Atlantic City stripper.

And it has been documented that Gates still had regular access to the WH in mid-June, undoubtedly later.

518
wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:47:51pm
519
The Major  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:48:09pm

re: #509 jaunte

520
JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:48:14pm
521
Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:48:18pm

re: #509 jaunte

HRC: “Your honor, this man has been stalking me for months, knocking on my door, calling me at all hours, going through my garbage, sitting up all night in a car across the street. That’s why I’m asking for a restraining order.”

Judge: “What do you have to say for yourself, young man?”

Fox News: “Your honor, clearly she’s totally obsessed with me!”

522
Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:49:27pm

re: #495 jaunte

Pirro is such a Backpfeifengesicht.

523
JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:49:29pm

Oh.

524
ObserverArt  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:51:28pm

re: #498 HappyWarrior

I think Jeanne’s still bitter that she never got to run against HRC for the Senate and I think she’s delusional enough to think she would have won.I think she owes her job on FNC for that simple reason. She’s a bitter, bitter person like so many of those at FNC.

I prefer to think she is just fucking nuts.

525
austin_blue  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:52:08pm

re: #500 Charles Johnson

This is turning out to be one of the better days we’ve had in quite a while.

Are you kidding? It’s the best ten-course appetizer we’ve ever eaten!

526
Unshaken Defiance  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:53:15pm

re: #500 Charles Johnson

This is turning out to be one of the better days we’ve had in quite a while.

Positively refreshing.

527
Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:54:29pm

Translation: “Commit political suicide now! Don’t wait until later!!!”

528
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:55:41pm

re: #527 Targetpractice

Pat Robertson demands Trump fire Mueller and pardon everyone: ‘This whole thing has to be shut down!’

God told him that Trump was innocent

529
Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:58:43pm

re: #527 Targetpractice

Dear God, Pat Robertson should be shut down.

530
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:02:07pm

re: #529 Nyet

Dear God, Pat Robertson should be shut down.

He’s been preying on religious elderly people with limited incomes for years, but apparently that’s OK in America.

531
Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:03:42pm

re: #527 Targetpractice

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Translation: “Commit political suicide now! Don’t wait until later!!!”

Pulpit Pimp Pat hasn’t had a good bowel movement in years!

532
The Major  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:03:49pm

re: #528 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

re: #529 Nyet

re: #530 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

533
The Major  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:05:23pm

re: #532 The Major

Hopefully, Pat Robertson gets the “pineapple treatment”…

Little Nicky - Hitler Pineapple Scene

534
Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:05:44pm

“Today Mueller indicted Paul Manafort…”

“This means nothing! He wasn’t important to the campaign! Mueller must resign!”

“…and he might also indict a Podesta later.”

“HILLARY’S GOING DOWN!”

535
dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:07:42pm

soupy sales sings about papodopolous

Soupy Sales…….Pachalafaka…….

536
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:07:52pm

re: #527 Targetpractice

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Translation: “Commit political suicide now! Don’t wait until later!!!”

537
Belafon  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:09:29pm

re: #527 Targetpractice

Concerned is not the right word.

538
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:10:22pm

which means it’s a perfect trump pick…

539
Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:11:17pm

re: #529 Nyet

Dear God, Pat Robertson should be shut down.

Won’t be long now. He’s 86.

540
Belafon  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:11:44pm

re: #536 Backwoods_Sleuth

Which is my proof that he doesn’t exist.

541
dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:13:36pm

re: #540 Belafon

Which is my proof that he doesn’t exist.

“He”?

542
Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:15:57pm

re: #539 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Won’t be long now. He’s 86.

That’s 602 years for us Humans! 😏

543
Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:16:07pm

New Trump nickname, courtesy of @eclecticbrotha : “Tang the Conqueror.”

544
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:18:51pm
545
bill d. (b.d.)  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:19:15pm

re: #527 Targetpractice

[Embedded content]

Translation: “Commit political suicide now! Don’t wait until later!!!”

That doesn’t sound like panic at ALL Pat!

546
nines09  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:21:07pm

I will now kill this Front Page Sarah Shitfest with a song. The Chambers Brothers before they discovered psychedelics. Soul, James, Soul.
Not sure what that drummer is doing, but it works here.

THE CHAMBERS BROTHERS - UPTOWN (RARE VIDEO FOOTAGE)

547
dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:22:10pm

re: #527 Targetpractice

[Embedded content]

Translation: “Commit political suicide now! Don’t wait until later!!!”

Pardon everyone?

Gee pat what do you think they’ve all done?

And would Mueller find out?

548
Barefoot Grin  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:23:40pm

re: #523 JordanRules

Oh.

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Why not bring on Rohrabacher, too?

549
Ace Rothstein  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:24:45pm

550
bill d. (b.d.)  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:25:20pm

re: #539 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Won’t be long now. He’s 86.

I want Pat Robertson to live long enough to see it all crash down around him.

551
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:25:49pm
552
JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:27:23pm

re: #548 Barefoot Grin

Cause even Dana isn’t too dumb to ignore to legal counsel or not have any at all.

I don’t know what Page is thinking here.

553
wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:29:26pm

re: #549 Ace Rothstein

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Pendejo Naranjo

554
Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:29:44pm

To this very day, wingnuts demand Hillary be charged with perjury for “lying” to the FBI about the contents of her private email server, but now I’m hearing them try to argue that taking meetings with Russians isn’t a crime and so there’s no proof of collusion.

555
fern01  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:30:15pm

re: #544 Backwoods_Sleuth

the forever president on halloween

556
Ace Rothstein  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:30:46pm

re: #553 wrenchwench

Pendejo Naranjo

Y gordo.

557
wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:31:46pm

re: #556 Ace Rothstein

Y gordo.

Con manos tan pequeno.

558
Skip Intro  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:33:24pm

re: #538 Backwoods_Sleuth

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which means it’s a perfect trump pick…

And will get 100% GOP backing.

559
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:34:50pm

heh

560
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:35:35pm
561
Ace Rothstein  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:35:59pm

re: #557 wrenchwench

Con manos tan pequeno.

y un mal peine sobre

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:36:06pm

re: #551 Backwoods_Sleuth

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astonishingly, oakley the baby owl keeps time and squawks on cue once each two measures!

563
The Vicious Babushka  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:36:33pm

Fox is repeating Cheeto Pendejo’s Tweets from “The Federalist” as “News”

564
Belafon  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:37:27pm

re: #541 dangerman

“He”?

If I’m going to claim God doesn’t exist, it’s probably better he’s a man. If he is real, he’s a lazy good for nothing bum that starts something and doesn’t finish it.

(Yes, I am male)

565
makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:37:44pm

First Facebook says ‘Wow, those Russian ads reached a lot further than we first told you!’

And now…

566
wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:38:36pm

re: #561 Ace Rothstein

y un mal peine sobre

¡Que lastima!

567
Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:40:47pm

re: #560 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m curious to hear what Sheriff Chotchkie thinks “Conspiracy against the United States” means.

568
The Vicious Babushka  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:41:51pm

re: #563 The Vicious Babushka

Fox is repeating Cheeto Pendejo’s Tweets from “The Federalist” as “News”

569
MsJ  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:43:22pm

re: #567 Targetpractice

I’m curious to hear what Sheriff Chotchkie thinks “Conspiracy against the United States” means.

You’re assuming he cares. His-siderism is all that matters.

570
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:44:47pm

I have no idea who they are talking about, but it sounds like it would have been fun to watch.

571
FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:44:56pm

re: #567 Targetpractice

I’m curious to hear what Sheriff Chotchkie thinks “Conspiracy against the United States” means.

It’s boilerplate. it simply goes to the conspiracy to violate the other US laws addressed in the indictment.

572
Kilroy was here  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:47:58pm

re: #550 b.d. (bill d.)

I want Pat Robertson to live long enough to see it all crash down around him.

Using another B5 quote…

Babylon 5: Vir at his best Part 1

573
makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:50:33pm

Carter Page is monumentally stupid.

(Or maybe Mueller flipped him, too?)

574
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:50:42pm

re: #570 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I have no idea who they are talking about, but it sounds like it would have been fun to watch.

OK, apparently it’s this:

575
JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:51:02pm

Decision was corrected to 6-1.

576
HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:52:58pm

re: #575 JordanRules

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Decision was corrected to 6-1.

Oh, so if he said sir, he was looking for a knight lawyer.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:53:24pm

re: #570 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I have no idea who they are talking about, but it sounds like it would have been fun to watch.

Nana Hayworth on Hardball. She was screaming about Hillary and Uranium in a full on batshit & bath salts induced rant.

And for the record it was NOT fun to watch, it physically hurt my ears.

578
Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:54:36pm

re: #571 FormerDirtDart

It’s boilerplate. it simply goes to the conspiracy to violate the other US laws addressed in the indictment.

I know, but I like to watch wingnuts squirm. I need some entertainment in my day.

579
Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:55:37pm

re: #546 nines09

I will now kill this Front Page Sarah Shitfest with a song. The Chambers Brothers before they discovered psychedelics. Soul, James, Soul.
Not sure what that drummer is doing, but it works here.

[Embedded content]

Chambers Bros backing the greatest Blue-Eyed Soul singer.

Barbara Dane & Chambers Brothers - I am a weary and lonesome traveller (1966)

580
Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:56:52pm

At this point, the entire wingnut defense hinges on a very precarious cliff: “All the offers for meetings were turned down.”

Somewhere in D.C., Bob Mueller has a very evil smile on his face.

581
Belafon  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:57:35pm

Whatever game Trump tries to play, I think Mueller will always be one step ahead of him (from Kerry Eleveld at Daily Kos):

It’s no accident that Mueller released the Papadopoulos charging documents on the same day Manafort was indicted. Cooperate and you can get a deal; don’t cooperate and have the book thrown at you—those are the choices.

582
FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:58:52pm
583
Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:00:56pm

re: #582 FormerDirtDart

The highlight of this is that Moore says that the federal judge who stayed the ban should be impeached and removed from office.

Who could possibly know more about removing judges from office?

584
HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:00:57pm

re: #582 FormerDirtDart

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Moore is such a crackpot lunatic.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:01:31pm
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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:02:25pm

re: #582 FormerDirtDart

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Moore is the last person to be lecturing anyone on ignoring the Constitution.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:03:48pm

re: #586 makeitstop

Moore is the last person to be lecturing anyone on ignoring the Constitution.

He needs to be defeated.

588
Jay C  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:04:35pm

re: #584 HappyWarrior

Moore is such a crackpot lunatic.

True.
But, depressingly, likely to be Senator Crackpot Lunatic before too long.

589
Belafon  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:04:52pm

re: #586 makeitstop

Moore is the last person to be lecturing anyone on ignoring the Constitution.

No matter what he thinks he’s saying, his actual complaint is that other judges won’t ignore the constitution as they see fit.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:04:57pm

re: #588 Jay C

True.
But, depressingly, likely to be Senator Crackpot Lunatic before too long.

I know. That’s so scary.

591
Shropshire Slasher  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:05:03pm

All done without a bass player.

The B-52’s - “Rock Lobster” (Countdown 1980)

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Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:05:22pm

re: #541 dangerman

“He”?

It.

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:06:07pm

re: #591 Shropshire Slasher

All done without a bass player.

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I like the song, but it’s obvious there’s something missing.

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Jay C  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:06:10pm

re: #589 Belafon
Minor edit:

No matter what he thinks he’s saying, his actual complaint is that other judges won’t ignore the constitution as they see HE sees fit.

595
Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:06:26pm

re: #592 Nyet

It.

They
We

596
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:08:29pm

re: #595 Decatur Deb

They
We

This gives rise to a deep philosophical question. If “I think, therefore I am”, then what of Donald Trump? He does not think, but unfortunately for humanity, he is.

597
Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:08:30pm

re: #595 Decatur Deb

They
We

In worst case - Itt.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:08:40pm

re: #584 HappyWarrior

Moore is such a crackpot lunatic.

He’s becoming the mainstream. The fucking south is rising again.

599
Shropshire Slasher  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:09:28pm

re: #595 Decatur Deb

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:10:07pm

re: #582 FormerDirtDart

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:10:31pm

re: #580 Targetpractice

At this point, the entire wingnut defense hinges on a very precarious cliff: “All the offers for meetings were turned down.”

Somewhere in D.C., Bob Mueller has a very evil smile on his face.

A conspiracy does not have to succeed

602
MsJ  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:10:37pm

re: #598 Barefoot Grin

He’s becoming the mainstream. The fucking south is rising again.

If that’s how they’re rising, they’re in worse shape than when they last rose.

603
dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:13:30pm

re: #596 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

This gives rise to a deep philosophical question. If “I think, therefore I am”, then what of Donald Trump? He does not think, but unfortunately for humanity, he is.

Rene Descartes walks into a bar and orders a drink. When he finishes his drink, the bartender asks him if he would like another. Descartes replies, “I think not,” and disappears in a puff of logic.

604
Barefoot Grin  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:13:31pm

re: #602 MsJ

If that’s how they’re rising, they’re in worse shape than when they last rose.

The southern conservatives have an outsize influence on our democratic institutions. I’m not saying there aren’t like minded people in Wisconsin, New York, New Hampshire, etc. But in terms of critical mass, it’s like the 3/5 ratio that allowed the south undue influence before the civil war never went away.

605
Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:15:19pm

The Nine Billion Names of God
(Downloadable. It’s only about 10 pages.)

en.wikipedia.org

606
Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:15:36pm

Carter Page may be a Scientist.

607
Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:16:00pm

re: #434 goddamnedfrank

I couldn’t get through the first season. I can put up with realistic moral gray areas but the point of view in House of Cards was just so utterly amoral and psychopathic that I was genuinely disgusted.

What’s worse, that’s one of Putin’s favorite series and he thinks that that’s really how it works.

608
Belafon  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:16:14pm

re: #605 Decatur Deb

Downloadable (It’s only about 10 pages.)

en.wikipedia.org

But “She” ain’t one.

609
Belafon  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:17:03pm

re: #607 Nyet

What’s worse, that’s one of Putin’s favorite series and he thinks that that’s really how it works.

Or maybe he just wanted to make it real.

610
Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:18:16pm

re: #608 Belafon

But “She” ain’t one.

It’s an old story.

611
Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:18:24pm

re: #540 Belafon

Which is my proof that he doesn’t exist.

I take a different view. It’s not proof of the nonexistence of a god or gods, but it DOES prove that if there IS a god or gods, they don’t bother getting involved in our shit. This means the existence or nonexistence is pretty much irrelevant.

612
Dr. Matt  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:19:27pm
613
Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:19:27pm

re: #611 Blind Frog Belly White

I take a different view. It’s not proof of the nonexistence of a god or gods, but it DOES prove that if there IS a god or gods, they don’t bother getting involved in our shit. This means the existence or nonexistence is pretty much irrelevant.

Deus Otsiosus

en.wikipedia.org

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:20:11pm

re: #607 Nyet

What’s worse, that’s one of Putin’s favorite series and he thinks that that’s really how it works.

Trump is as amoral, but nowhere near as talented as Frank Underwood, while Melania is nowhere near as simultaneously hot and frighteningly cold as Claire.

615
dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:21:29pm

re: #606 Blind Frog Belly White

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Carter Page may be a Scientist.

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That drawing is very good

616
Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:22:06pm

re: #613 Decatur Deb

Deus Otsiosus

en.wikipedia.org

Basically, “Here you go, kids. Try not to fuck it up.” I could believe in that kind of god, but I don’t see any particular reason to bother.

617
Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:22:40pm

re: #616 Blind Frog Belly White

Basically, “Here you go, kids. Try not to fuck it up.” I could believe in that kind of god, but I don’t see any particular reason to bother.

Neither does She.

618
Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:22:41pm

re: #615 dangerman

That drawing is very good

Also pretty much on the nose.

619
Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:23:43pm

re: #618 Blind Frog Belly White

Also pretty much on the nose.

But the second run would be a graduate assistant.

620
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:24:49pm
621
The Vicious Babushka  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:25:21pm

Who is this idiot? Wingnut or Glennbot?
(NOT Carmen Yulin Cruz obviously)

622
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:26:01pm
623
Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:27:47pm

re: #613 Decatur Deb

Deus Otsiosus

en.wikipedia.org

Also, I’m now singing ‘Deus Otsiosus’ in my head instead of Miles Gloriosus…

YouTube

624
Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:28:04pm

So you’ve got a guy on your campaign who keeps saying “I can set up a meeting with Putin” and never does the question come up “Why would Putin want to meet with me?” Particularly when you’re spending time at campaign conventions talking about how you’d like America to be buddies with Russia?

625
Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:28:45pm

re: #605 Decatur Deb

The Nine Billion Names of God
(Downloadable. It’s only about 10 pages.)

en.wikipedia.org

Best punchline ever.

626
Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:28:58pm

re: #622 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

There’s always Supergirl, but the President there is not only a woman, but also a closeted alien.

And Lynda Carter.

627
dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:29:30pm

re: #616 Blind Frog Belly White

Basically, “Here you go, kids. Try not to fuck it up.” I could believe in that kind of god, but I don’t see any particular reason to bother.

Still gotta deal with how such a god came to be in the first place

628
Belafon  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:30:01pm

re: #610 Decatur Deb

It’s an old story.

I was trying to play on the 99 problems song. It was pretty weak.

629
Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:30:06pm

re: #623 Blind Frog Belly White

Also, I’m now singing ‘Deus Otsiosus’ in my head instead of Miles Gloriosus…

[Embedded content]

Video

Zero sympathy for that.

630
Dr. Matt  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:30:23pm

re: #621 The Vicious Babushka

Who is this idiot? Wingnut or Glennbot?
(NOT Carmen Yulin Cruz obviously)

[Embedded content]

That has to be a concern Russian troll. Mayor Cruz is freakn’ amazing. I really don’t care that she gave props to Senator Sanders and I imagine most on the left don’t care either.

631
Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:31:29pm

re: #627 dangerman

Still gotta deal with how such a god came to be in the first place

Yeah. “He/She/It/They was/were always here!” doesn’t cut it.

YMMV, of course.

632
Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:31:44pm

Just had a wingnut try to push the Steele dossier BS on me, today of all days. It truly is cute that they think that anybody outside of their little bubble gives a shit after today.

633
Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:32:32pm

re: #629 Decatur Deb

Zero sympathy for that.

Don’t make me unleash The Doomsday Earworm.

Mind you, it has no power on those born after 1970.

634
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:33:04pm

re: #632 Targetpractice

Just had a wingnut try to push the Steele dossier BS on me, today of all days. It truly is cute that they think that anybody outside of their little bubble gives a shit after today.

That “little” bubble, according to the best stats available, is comprised of just over 1/3 of our country. They have some grounds for believing that their bullshit has legs.

635
Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:33:45pm

re: #614 Blind Frog Belly White

Trump is as amoral, but nowhere near as talented as Frank Underwood, while Melania is nowhere near as simultaneously hot and frighteningly cold as Claire.

I’ve never seen it, just relaying the interesting tidbit about how Putin sees the American politics.

636
Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:34:46pm

re: #627 dangerman

Still gotta deal with how such a god came to be in the first place

It’s time for The Talk.

637
Hecuba's daughter  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:34:57pm

re: #575 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

Decision was corrected to 6-1.

When Trump and the Republicans are finished, this is the Supreme Court we are going to have. Gorsuch would rule exactly the same way. How can this even make sense? (I admit I did not read the article… so maybe there is a logical explanation?)

638
MsJ  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:35:32pm

re: #632 Targetpractice

Just had a wingnut try to push the Steele dossier BS on me, today of all days. It truly is cute that they think that anybody outside of their little bubble gives a shit after today.

They seem to think this is a trap and Hillary is going to be arrested for something or other. The level of insanity at all levels stuns me. Some of them actually believe this.

And they seem to think Tony Podesta (whom I don’t know) is John Podesta (whom I do know) and somehow this Tony thing is bad need for Clinton… Or something.

It’s confusing.

640
Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:35:46pm

re: #637 Hecuba’s daughter

so maybe there is a logical explanation?)

Nope.

641
Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:35:47pm
642
Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:35:58pm

re: #635 Nyet

I’ve never seen it, just relaying the interesting tidbit about how Putin sees the American politics.

I’m not surprised Putin sees it that way. Says much about Putin.

643
Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:36:01pm

re: #635 Nyet

I’ve never seen it, just relaying the interesting tidbit about how Putin sees the American politics.

There is a Putin-ganger in a couple episodes.

644
Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:37:03pm

re: #633 Blind Frog Belly White

Don’t make me unleash The Doomsday Earworm.

Mind you, it has no power on those born after 1970.

Don’t know TDE.

645
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:37:07pm
646
Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:37:43pm

re: #643 Decatur Deb

There is a Putin-ganger in a couple episodes.

That actor seems to specialize in playing creepy foreigners. Did you see him in “Sherlock”?

647
Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:38:24pm

re: #644 Decatur Deb

Don’t know TDE.

That’s because I haven’t unleashed it, silly!

648
The Vicious Babushka  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:38:42pm

KREMLIN STOOGE DANA ROHRABACHER FFS

649
danarchy  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:38:59pm

re: #638 MsJ

They seem to think this is a trap and Hillary is going to be arrested for something or other. The level of insanity at all levels stuns me. Some of them actually believe this.

And they seem to think Tony Podesta (whom I don’t know) is John Podesta (whom I do know) and somehow this Tony thing is bad need for Clinton… Or something.

It’s confusing.

Tony is John’s brother, and they co-founded the Podesta group…therefore Clinton Foundation…it’s so simple why can’t you see it!!!!111!!

650
Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:39:00pm

re: #646 Blind Frog Belly White

That actor seems to specialize in playing creepy foreigners. Did you see him in “Sherlock”?

Nah. Never got into Holmes.

651
Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:39:31pm

re: #645 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

“Young family, may be more financially stretched than Manafort…” does not sound like the thoughts of people who are innocent, it sounds like mobsters afraid that one of their capos will crack if leaned on too hard.

652
Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:40:09pm
653
Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:41:21pm

re: #651 Targetpractice

“Young family, may be more financially stretched than Manafort…” does not sound like the thoughts of people who are innocent, it sounds like mobsters afraid that one of their capos will crack if leaned on too hard.

His family will be cared for, if he can make a good cellblock risotto.

654
Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:41:52pm
655
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:42:48pm
656
Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:43:30pm

re: #653 Decatur Deb

His family will be cared for, if he can make a good cellblock risotto.

He could ask John Podesta for a recipe.

657
Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:43:44pm
658
lawhawk  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:44:55pm

So wait, the latest spin is that Podesta or Democrats sought out information showing Trump colluded?

That’s not a fucking crime.

Colluding with Russians for oppo research on Clinton IS a crime. In fact, it can be included in the crime conspiracy against the United States (18 USC 371). Conspiracy necessitates at least two people involved, and it’s clear that far more than two were involved.

Trump thinks saying that Mueller’s wrapping up ends things.

It doesn’t.

Fox fixating on Clinton doesn’t end things either. It also doesn’t change fact that Washington DC and the political universe knows Trump’s entire cabal of cronies are in deep trouble. Indictments of three people (with one guilty plea so far) shows that this isn’t over by a long shot.

The only ones lying here and projecting like IMAX are the ones who have lied and projected like IMAX all along - the GOP and right wing hacks who have enabled a corrupt and compromised Trump all along.

Fox should have a reckoning, but they wont. A lot of media outlets likewise should have a reckoning about how they treated Trump with kid gloves and ignored or minimized the signs that Trump was addled, incompetent, engaging in criminal acts, and otherwise enabling the worst elements of the nation to spread their wings.

And by engaging in criminal acts, I include admission of the sex abuse/harassment of multiple women.

659
JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:44:56pm

What is this dude doing??

660
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:45:00pm

re: #655 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

I know it’s just the screen capture, but that blouse is practically radiating. Might be polonium, she should probably look into that.

661
Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:45:23pm

re: #650 Decatur Deb

Nah. Never got into Holmes.

De gustibus….

662
Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:45:34pm

re: #656 Nyet

He could ask John Podesta for a recipe.

Easier to smuggle heroin over the wall than good arborio rice.

663
Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:45:57pm

If there’s anybody in this bunch who Trump might pardon, it would probably be Gates. They seem to think Manafort is gonna swing for his money laundering and that people buy the BS that Papadopoulos was a “volunteer” who just made coffee.

664
Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:46:17pm

re: #662 Decatur Deb

Easier to smuggle heroin over the wall than good arborio rice.

He should start training now.

665
MsJ  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:46:18pm

re: #659 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

What is this dude doing??

I’d say incriminating himself.

666
lawhawk  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:46:37pm

re: #659 JordanRules

Going for an insanity defense?

Who in their right mind would go out there and pretty much admit to being a co conspirator?

Mueller’s probably thinking to himself … dumb fucking luck… I wasn’t even thinking of getting Page this early, but if he’s that willing to admit guilty… let’s get him in.

667
Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:46:41pm

...

668
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:46:54pm

re: #665 MsJ

I’d say incriminating himself.

he has a good track record of doing just that.

669
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:47:28pm

re: #665 MsJ

I’d say incriminating himself.

Open mouth, insert foot. Repeat until restrained.

670
Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:47:34pm

re: #664 Nyet

He should start training now.

Ugly flashback to

Papillon

.

671
goddamnedfrank  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:48:01pm
672
fern01  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:48:05pm

re: #614 Blind Frog Belly White

Trump is as amoral, but nowhere near as talented as Frank Underwood, while Melania is nowhere near as simultaneously hot and frighteningly cold as Claire.

The original series (I think in the 1990s) was English and the eventual prime minister was called Francis Urquhart - played by Ian Richardson - it was on netflix - not sure if it is still there. Mind chilling - and when Ted Cruz hit the political scene the physical resemblance was frightening. The show was taken from the books by Michael Dobbs - a good read.

It did not stretch my imagination to believe it happening. I have not watched much of the US version.

673
Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:48:27pm

You can see why Mueller is parceling out the indictments rather than grabbing them all at once. He turned on the light today and the roaches are already scattering. Where they run will be most informative.

674
Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:48:40pm

re: #662 Decatur Deb

Easier to smuggle heroin over the wall than good arborio rice.

Have to use another kind. As Gertrude Stein never said, “Arroz is arroz is arroz.”

675
Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:49:06pm

Lawhawk got Comment of the Beast. It’s been a while since the last.

676
Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:49:13pm

re: #666 lawhawk

Going for an insanity defense?

Who in their right mind would go out there and pretty much admit to being a co conspirator?

Mueller’s probably thinking to himself … dumb fucking luck… I wasn’t even thinking of getting Page this early, but if he’s that willing to admit guilty… let’s get him in.

Maybe the inanity defense.

677
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:49:39pm

re: #675 Decatur Deb

Lawhawk got Comment of the Beast. It’s been a while since the last.

Charles doesn’t usually let us all play on the same thread for this long, but it’s a big news day. Happy Muellerween, everyone.

678
Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:49:52pm

re: #674 Blind Frog Belly White

Have to use another kind. As Gertrude Stein never said, “Arroz is arroz is arroz.”

Just don’t start with Toklas brownies.

679
Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:50:23pm

re: #674 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s terrible, by the way.

680
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:51:21pm

I’m ready for Halloween

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681
Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:51:29pm

re: #672 fern01

The original series (I think in the 1990s) was English and the eventual prime minister was called Francis Urquhart - played by Ian Richardson - it was on netflix - not sure if it is still there. Mind chilling - and when Ted Cruz hit the political scene the physical resemblance was frightening. The show was taken from the books by Michael Dobbs - a good read.

It did not stretch my imagination to believe it happening. I have not watched much of the US version.

In the US version, there’s a President who basically does whatever the last guy he talked to advised. I thought that was unrealistic until I read that Trump’s advisers scheme to be the last person to talk to him before a decision has to be made.

682
Barefoot Grin  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:52:14pm

re: #648 The Vicious Babushka

KREMLIN STOOGE DANA ROHRABACHER FFS

[Embedded content]

Yup

683
Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:52:48pm

re: #679 Decatur Deb

That’s terrible, by the way.

Glad, as always, to oblige my friends and neighbors!

684
retired cynic  Oct 30, 2017 • 9:20:20pm

re: #650 Decatur Deb

Nah. Never got into Holmes.

Oh, I LOVE Sherlock!


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