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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:50:57pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:50:58pm

Honestly, I think he’s sitting on the Flynn indictment to see what the WH says and does.

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nines09  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:51:50pm

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Dr. Matt  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:52:04pm

I’ll see your Keith Olbermann and raise you a Sean Hannity:

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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:52:05pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:53:38pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:54:31pm

re: #1 FormerDirtDart

Such a stupid claim. Papadopoulos sought info from Russians to use against Secretary Clinton to help Trump get elected. Who is Kelly fooling? He sure lies easily.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:54:51pm

re: #5 JordanRules

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Didn’t learn the lesson about not going Full Retard, huh?

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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:55:05pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:55:25pm

WH: “There’s nothing in the Manafort or Gate indictments that indicate collusion with Russia…”

Mueller: “Surprise, motherfucker!” *drops Papadopoulos guilty plea*

WH: “That guy was a temp! We never took the meetings!! THIS MEANS NOTHING!!!”

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gocart mozart  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:55:29pm

So, Dim Jim was taken in by a joker. What are the odds? 1to1

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:57:04pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:57:35pm

re: #5 JordanRules

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fern01  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:58:15pm

re: #1 FormerDirtDart

He’ll be asked about Hillary Clinton - nothing to see here in regard to Manafort.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:58:16pm

Pence may go down before Trump does, as per Agnew and Nixon. The fly in that oatmeal is that Trump could then select a successor.

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Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:58:58pm

re: #15 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Pence may go down before Trump does, as per Agnew and Nixon. The fly in that oatmeal is that Trump could then select a successor.

And in a complete disconnect from reality, he’ll go with his first instinct and appoint Michael Flynn.

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nines09  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:59:13pm

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:59:14pm

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Updinged for Leeroy Jenkins.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:59:44pm

re: #13 FormerDirtDart

Ha!! Cool movie.

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gocart mozart  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:59:52pm

re: #15 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Pence may go down before Trump does, as per Agnew and Nixon. The fly in that oatmeal is that Trump could then select a successor.

Pence will be indicted and resign within a year.

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:00:32pm

I’ll repeat something I posted this morning.

Who had Papadopolous in their indictment pool this morning? Who even knew who that was?

That’s why Trump’s in such deep trouble and so many in the Trump cabal have lawyered up for months already. They knew this was bad, but they just didn’t know how bad things would be because Mueller literally had an insider with a wire getting the juicy details.

Manafort and Gates are big fish each on their own.

Taken together, that’s a significant chunk of Trump campaign timeframe.

And one of the charges includes conspiracy against the US - 18 USC 371.

The notion of collusion is that one party is working in concert with another in furtherance of a crime. That’s a conspiracy. In this case, we’re talking a conspiracy against the United States. Collusion is an inaccurate and inappropriate term, but everyone is using it as shorthand.

Trump’s team engaged in a widespread conspiracy against the US to work in concert with foreign powers to win the presidency. That’s illegal. And multiple criminal acts were carried out in furtherance of the conspiracy.

There’s obstruction of justice, perjury, and lying on SF 86s, and that’s just among Donny Jr., Sessions, and Kushner.

Those are next up here, although knowing Mueller, he’s probably got a few intermediate folks to roll up.

There’s also a reason Mueller brought in prosecutors who know how to deal with mob prosecutions, because the parallels are there.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:02:19pm

“Greatest crime in American history.” Yep, Watergate pales in comparison. The Republican Party should be prosecuted under RICO, and banned as a criminal organization. There are also many international implications that could bring it under the jurisdiction of the International Court of Justice. Lumpy and Limbaugh could end up in the Julius Streicher seat after all.

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Unabogie  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:03:01pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:03:06pm
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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:03:37pm

re: #16 Targetpractice

And in a complete disconnect from reality, he’ll go with his first instinct and appoint Michael Flynn.

Better than Pence.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:03:44pm
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The Major  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:03:56pm

Ah, yes: this does bring back some most excellent scenes from Babylon 5

Babylon 5: Vir at his best Part 1


Londo confronts Mr. Morden

Vir Cotto Is A Badass

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:04:26pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

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[SCENE: Oval Office. Trump and Pence are sitting behind the desk.]

PENCE: That’s Papadopoulos. Oh… SHIT.

[Office is silent for approximately six seconds.]

PENCE: [Sniffs the air suspiciously.]

TRUMP: Mike, fetch me my brown pants.

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Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:08:56pm

I notice wingnuts seem to think that today was it, that all the indictments filed were unsealed and Mueller will have to work with these three. Oh silly, silly fools…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:10:15pm

re: #29 Targetpractice

I notice wingnuts seem to think that today was it, that all the indictments filed were unsealed and Mueller will have to work with these three. Oh silly, silly fools…

According to at least one wingnut who “knows about prosecutions”, Democrats should be afraid of where this is leading.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:10:22pm
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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:11:28pm

re: #29 Targetpractice

Yeah, there’s a totally boundless fountain of misinformation from the right wing about how this is the limit of the investigation and that this is it.

Mueller got 2 campaign chairmen and a key foreign policy adviser on conspiring against the US and engaging in multiple crimes. All those crimes point to further indictments (the conspiracy part).

And Mueller didn’t even get into the low hanging fruit like Flynn, Kushner, Sessions, or even Donny Jr.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:11:45pm
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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:12:42pm
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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:15:35pm

Wait. What?

For like the third time this week, another right wing hack or key mouthpiece has called this the Clinton Admin, or otherwise made it appear that Clinton’s the one in charge.

I’d love to see the video of this… I wont watch Hannity on the general principle though.

Freud would have a field day with these folks. They are absolutely pathological.

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gocart mozart  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:16:22pm

Carter Paige is the Jar jar Binks of this Trump/Russia movie.

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Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:16:49pm

Apparently “Dirty Dossier” is the new talking point, as Hannity just used it for one of his slides.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:17:30pm

re: #36 lawhawk

Wait. What?

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For like the third time this week, another right wing hack or key mouthpiece has called this the Clinton Admin, or otherwise made it appear that Clinton’s the one in charge.

I’d love to see the video of this… I wont watch Hannity on the general principle though.

Freud would have a field day with these folks. They are absolutely pathological.

Really. If Clinton were President, Fox ratings would be up, and Hannity would be the Voice Of The Resistance!

Now? He’s stuck playing a dime store Josef Goebbels.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:17:42pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:18:00pm

re: #37 gocart mozart

Carter Paige is the Jar jar Binks of this Trump/Russia movie.

Meesa thinking yousa right about that.

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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:18:20pm

re: #36 lawhawk

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:18:22pm
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The Major  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:19:00pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:19:01pm

re: #38 Targetpractice

Apparently “Dirty Dossier” is the new talking point, as Hannity just used it for one of his slides.

Patrick Swayze spy musical?

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:19:30pm

re: #41 Blind Frog Belly White

George Lucas would find Carter Page too improbable a character.

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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:19:34pm

re: #45 Blind Frog Belly White

Take my money!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:20:12pm

re: #46 lawhawk

George Lucas would find Carter Page too improbable a character.

“Fiction has to make sense.”

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:22:11pm

re: #48 Blind Frog Belly White

That is why some people say, “Truth is stranger than fiction.”

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:22:25pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:22:49pm

re: #42 JordanRules

“Goddammit!! Hillary Clinton runs for President and gets 3 million more votes. The President is under investigation by a Special Counsel, there are indictments, and talk of impeachment, and I here I am playing Defense!”

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danarchy  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:23:01pm

re: #33 lawhawk

Yeah, there’s a totally boundless fountain of misinformation from the right wing about how this is the limit of the investigation and that this is it.

Mueller got 2 campaign chairmen and a key foreign policy adviser on conspiring against the US and engaging in multiple crimes. All those crimes point to further indictments (the conspiracy part).

And Mueller didn’t even get into the low hanging fruit like Flynn, Kushner, Sessions, or even Donny Jr.

I have heard the conspiracy against the US is sort of boiler plate language and doesn’t have anything to do with “collusion” to subvert the election.

“It is not uncommon when there are multiple actors engaged in criminal conduct—white collar or otherwise—for prosecutors to charge a conspiracy,” Griffin says. That appears to be what special counsel Robert Mueller and his team are doing with the conspiracy against the United States charge. But it is fundamentally a charge related to the other charges of money laundering and misleading federal officials and investigators about foreign bank accounts and lobbying for the Ukrainian government. It’s not about betraying America in some deep sense.

vox.com

IANAL, but I see a lot of people investing a lot of hope in the Mueller investigation to topple the whole house of cards and I think it wouldn’t hurt to temper our expectations a bit. That way you don’t get too disappointed if he doesn’t but you can be pleasantly surprised if he does.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:23:32pm

re: #49 PhillyPretzel

That is why some people say, “Truth is stranger than fiction.”

That’s actually the first part of the quote I quoted the second part of.

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The Major  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:23:53pm

re: #51 Blind Frog Belly White

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The Major  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:25:12pm

re: #52 danarchy

As Sun Tzu said: “The Wheels of Justice grind slowly, but turn very fine indeed….”

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:25:46pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:25:49pm

re: #51 Blind Frog Belly White

“Goddammit!! Hillary Clinton runs for President and gets 3 million more votes. The President is under investigation by a Special Counsel, there are indictments, and talk of impeachment, and I here I am playing Defense!”

It’s upside down world.

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:25:59pm

re: #52 danarchy

There’s no such thing as collusion as a crime under federal criminal law (as opposed to antitrust, where collusion is a thing). When people speak of collusion with Russia, they’re really talking about conspiring with a foreign entity and violating further federal criminal laws. Since there’s no specific crime to address that, it falls under conspiracy against the US under 18 USC 371.

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The Major  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:27:32pm

WaPo via MSN: 7 tantalizing questions about the Russia probe from Trump aide George Papadopoulos’s plea deal

For the first time, we have a figure from the 2016 Trump campaign who we know is cooperating with special counsel Robert S. Mueller III in his Russia investigation. George Papadopoulos is talking after being caught lying to investigators.

Exactly what that means, we don’t really know.

But that’s just one of several big, juicy questions emanating from the former Trump foreign policy adviser’s plea deal. The document is filled with anonymous campaign officials on the other end of Papadopoulos’s emails. We may not know who they are, but special counsel Robert S. Mueller III sure does. And in many cases, they seem to have known about contacts with Russia that the campaign and its principals, including President Trump, would later deny.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:27:44pm

Is it just me, or is there anyone else out there who doesn’t want this day to end?

I’m on the verge of a Schadenfreudgasm.

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b_sharp  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:28:12pm

re: #60 Blind Frog Belly White

Is it just me, or is there anyone else out there who doesn’t want this day to end?

I’m on the verge of a Schadenfreudgasm.

Messy.

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The Major  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:28:55pm

re: #58 lawhawk

Since there’s no specific crime to address that, it falls under conspiracy against the US under 18 USC 371.

But Manafort wasn’t charged under that, was he ?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:28:58pm

re: #61 b_sharp

Messy.

Not so much, at my age.

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b_sharp  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:30:01pm

re: #63 Blind Frog Belly White

Not so much, at my age.

I hear ya.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:31:14pm

re: #60 Blind Frog Belly White

Schadenfreudgasm.

Okay that’s a keeper.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:31:50pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:32:40pm

re: #60 Blind Frog Belly White

Is it just me, or is there anyone else out there who doesn’t want this day to end?

I’m on the verge of a Schadenfreudgasm.

I think the world record set when Pharma Bro Shkreli was arrested has been handsomely exceeded.

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The Major  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:33:07pm

Looks like Hair Furor is becoming a bit unglued…

WaPo via MSN: Upstairs at home, with the TV on, Trump fumes over Russia indictments

President Trump woke before dawn on Monday and burrowed in at the White House residence to wait for the Russia bombshell he knew was coming.

Separated from most of his West Wing staff — who fretted over why he was late getting to the Oval Office — Trump clicked on the television and spent the morning playing fuming media critic, legal analyst and crisis communications strategist, according to several people close to him.

The president digested the news of the first indictments in Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s probe with exasperation and disgust, these people said. He called his lawyers repeatedly. He listened intently to cable news commentary. And, with rising irritation, he watched live footage of his onetime campaign adviser and confidant, Paul Manafort, turning himself in to the FBI.

Initially, Trump felt vindicated. Though frustrated that the media were linking him to the indictment and tarnishing his presidency, he cheered that the charges against Manafort and his deputy, Rick Gates, were focused primarily on activities that began before his campaign. Trump tweeted at 10:28 a.m., “there is NO COLLUSION!”
But the president’s celebration was short-lived. A few minutes later, court documents were unsealed showing that George Papadopoulos, an unpaid foreign policy adviser on Trump’s campaign, pleaded guilty to making a false statement to the FBI about his efforts to broker a relationship between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin. The case provides the clearest evidence yet of links between Trump’s campaign and Russian officials.

For a president who revels in chaos — and in orchestrating it himself — Monday brought a political storm that Trump could not control. White House chief of staff John F. Kelly, along with lawyers Ty Cobb, John Dowd and Jay Sekulow, advised Trump to be cautious with his public responses, but they were a private sounding board for his grievances, advisers said.

“This has not been a cause of great agita or angst or activity at the White House,” said Cobb, the White House lawyer overseeing Russia matters. He added that Trump is “spending all of his time on presidential work.”

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:33:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:35:12pm

this guy…really wants to be “important” somehow…

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:37:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:38:29pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:38:42pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

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The only one that’s grotesque here is you, Newt. You had your 15 minutes of fame, now get the fuck out.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:39:26pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:39:37pm

We all knew that, when Mueller was appointed earlier this year, one of two outcomes would happen: He’d meet the wingnut expectations by slow-walking the investigation and working to undermine it in tune with the GOP’s efforts or he would take it seriously and work to prosecute it in the very way that the GOP lied that they hoped he would and they would work tear him down despite all the glowing recommendations they initially gave him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:39:45pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

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The Major  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:40:38pm

And if Hair Furor’s day couldn’t get any worse….

USA Today via MSN: Trump’s ban on transgender troops blocked

WASHINGTON — A federal court on Monday blocked President Trump’s ban on transgender service members, preventing the Pentagon from overturning policies initiated by the Obama administration to allow transgender troops from serving openly.
The order in Washington by U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly temporarily prevents to the Pentagon from enacting the ban that Trump announced by tweet in July. It is the first court order following challenges to Trump’s ban and can be appealed.
The court found that Trump’s ban likely means the plaintiffs - transgender troops some with decades or meritorious service - had their rights to due process violated.

Kollar-Kotelly found several factors that favored the plaintiffs, notably the unusual way Trump announced it and “the fact that the reasons given for them do not appear to be supported by any facts, and the recent rejection of those reasons by the military itself.”
Lawyers for the plaintiffs hailed the decision, saying that it means the guarantees made under the Obama administration to transgender troops, including medical care, are back in place. That also means the Pentagon must begin making plans to accept new transgender troops by Jan. 1, 2018, said Shannon Minter, legal director at the National Center for Lesbian Rights.
“She basically wiped the slate clean,” Minter said of Kollar-Kotelly.
There was no immediate comment from the Pentagon.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:41:15pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:41:37pm

Folks should be recording this shit for the possibility that Mueller does indict Tony Podesta, because we will all suffer whiplashes from the suddenly turn to “THIS IS PROOF HILLARY IS A CRIMINAL COLLUDING WITH RUSSIA!!!”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:42:51pm

Now that power isn’t just complete license, and the stakes might include punishment, suddenly the people they’ve previously declared weak are immeasurably strong and responsible for everything not working right.

This is so pathetic, that there’s an adult audience for this kind of gross. self-pitying rhetorical grope.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:43:27pm
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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:43:29pm

re: #62 The Major

c-6rtwjumjzx7877x24bbbx2eozx78ynhjx2elta.g00.slate.com (this is a link to the actual indictment hosted at slate - relevant charges begin at page 23; the preceding pages are the facts/evidence/allegations).

Count 1 is conspiracy against the US, and applies to both Manafort and Gates.

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The Major  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:43:44pm

New LGF page/Tweet:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:45:23pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:45:45pm

re: #81 The Vicious Babushka

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Well, he’s right, but only because they would have cocked everything up and broken half of the laws currently on the books in the process. They just can’t follow rules, and they’re mad at Clinton because she did and they can’t nail her for anything.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:46:04pm

re: #81 The Vicious Babushka

Grumpy Lumpy.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:46:17pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:48:26pm
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The Major  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:48:44pm

re: #87 FormerDirtDart

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:48:56pm
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Belafon  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:50:02pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Democrats have exactly the opposite issue: We can govern, but we’re not a great opposition party.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:50:12pm

re: #90 FormerDirtDart

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Fuck off Ralph. Seriously I don’t care if this guy is former military. I’m tired of right wingers claiming we don’t respect the servicemen and women.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:50:35pm
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The Major  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:51:25pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:51:37pm

It’s a big day a good one. We need it because if we don’t win we get this. But worse.

Iframe

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:52:07pm
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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:52:11pm

re: #93 jaunte

Ryan and McCarthy joked that Rohrabacher and Trump were on Putin’s payroll.

They joked about it.

They didn’t take it seriously.

They didn’t want anyone else to take it seriously.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:52:48pm

Talk about a perfect storm

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:53:06pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

The top responses:

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meteor  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:54:05pm

re: #60 Blind Frog Belly White

Same here. I actually felt really good for once!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:54:06pm

I’m in a much better mood today than I’ve been in for weeks. I have put off so much (looking for a new job, writing). Typical depression mixed with what is happening with my world.

But today is a little better. I know this not the end, but it’s the only time since the election that someone has stood up to the trump machine.

On the way home I stopped at my fav takeout joint. Goody’s serves mostly Caribbean specialties (Jerk chicken, Roti, BBQ ribs). It’s in a very mixed neighborhood in the Rockaways (Queens, NY) Public housing mixed with working class .

I love goody’s and treat myself a couple times a week. As I was picking up my chicken and rice (lots of oxtail gravy. I swear they put crack in the gravy-it is addicting, but that’s another story.) This woman came to the counter and wanted to talk with the manager. She wanted to get food and pay tomorrow. My guess is she gets some type of welfare on the last day of the month. Not sure. Anyway I told the guy I wanted to buy her soup. I tried to do it discreetly, but she figured it out and gave me a hug and then apologized for hugging me. As I Jew I’ve always been taught that the best type of charity is when the person receiving does not know who it came from. You do it because it is the right thing to do, not to get recognition.

So the point of all this is that I’m feeling a little better and perhaps we all should. I’m getting back on the job hunt tonight.

Life is just a little better.

Peace

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:55:09pm

re: #97 lawhawk

Ryan and McCarthy joked that Rohrabacher and Trump were on Putin’s payroll.

They joked about it.

They didn’t take it seriously.

They didn’t want anyone else to take it seriously.

They only care about tax cuts.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:55:19pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:55:42pm

re: #81 The Vicious Babushka

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What you see in this clip is a very real effort to begin weaponizing anger and fear over the potential that Trump will be removed from office. These people are truly trying to incite violence in the hopes that they can scare reasonable people into arguing that Trump be left in power just to avoid all-out war.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:56:07pm

re: #52 danarchy

I have heard the conspiracy against the US is sort of boiler plate language and doesn’t have anything to do with “collusion” to subvert the election.

vox.com

IANAL, but I see a lot of people investing a lot of hope in the Mueller investigation to topple the whole house of cards and I think it wouldn’t hurt to temper our expectations a bit. That way you don’t get too disappointed if he doesn’t but you can be pleasantly surprised if he does.

A “Conspiracy against the United States” could include several people filing false VA travel claims. (There is an article up from the Casper newspaper in Cheyenne about that very thing.)

My county newspaper went with a political cartoon of the Uranium One derp today.

They also made me feel old. There is a column in the paper called “Years Gone By,” which has county news from five to one hundred ten years ago. In the five years ago column is the death of the village board member whose seat I took in a special election a few days later.

That means my name is going to appear in the “Days Gone By” column in a week or two. I am officially old.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:56:10pm

re: #103 jaunte

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Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:56:44pm

re: #103 jaunte

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Lumpy goes on a tear about “equality under the law,” then downplays lying to the FBI when it was the entire point of months of screaming fits by the wingnuts over Hillary’s email server.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:57:05pm

re: #103 jaunte

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Yeah 29 years old with two master degrees. Man Hannity is a path hack.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:01:14pm

This same nazi fucker who said Hillary Clinton should be executed like the Rosenbergs.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:01:17pm

Tonight everyone in the White House is trying to recall if they saw Papadopoulos in the room, were on the phone with him, after he could have been wired by the FBI.
Sweating.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:02:10pm

Look at that Fox chyron tryna make you think Hillary Clinton is the subject of Mueller’s charges.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:02:11pm

re: #109 The Vicious Babushka

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gocart mozart  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:02:23pm
Nigel Farage is a “person of interest” in the US counter-intelligence investigation that is looking into possible collusion between the Kremlin and Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, the Guardian has been told.

Sources with knowledge of the investigation said the former Ukip leader had raised the interest of FBI investigators because of his relationships with individuals connected to both the Trump campaign and Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder whom Farage visited in March.

He’s right in the middle of these relationships. He turns up over and over again

WikiLeaks published troves of hacked emails last year that damaged Hillary Clinton’s campaign and is suspected of having cooperated with Russia through third parties, according to recent congressional testimony by the former CIA director John Brennan, who also said the adamant denials of collusion by Assange and Russia were disingenuous.

Farage has not been accused of wrongdoing and is not a suspect or a target of the US investigation. But being a person of interest means investigators believe he may have information about the acts that are under investigation and he may therefore be subject to their scrutiny.

Sources who spoke to the Guardian said it was Farage’s proximity to people at the heart of the investigation that was being examined as an element in their broader inquiry into how Russia may have worked with Trump campaign officials to influence the US election.

theguardian.com

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:02:30pm

re: #109 The Vicious Babushka

This same nazi fucker who said Hillary Clinton should be executed like the Rosenbergs.

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He LIED to you, Gorka. It’s that fucking simple.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:02:36pm

re: #92 HappyWarrior

Fuck off Ralph. Seriously I don’t care if this guy is former military. I’m tired of right wingers claiming we don’t respect the servicemen and women.

The one veteran on my city council? Me, the leftie socialist. The Republicans? Never been anywhere near a military base or naval vessel.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:02:46pm

re: #110 jaunte

Tonight everyone in the White House is trying to recall if they saw Papadopoulos in the room, were on the phone with him, after he could have been wired by the FBI.
Sweating.

They really didn’t need to wire him, just make everyone believe he had a wire. Mueller is of the charts brilliant.

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:02:53pm

Mueller’s sent a not so subtle message to Manafort and Gates.

He has them dead to rights. Now deal with me or else find yourself spending a very long time in prison.

By deal? Give me the goods to help fill in the blanks against everyone else in the Trump WH.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:04:21pm
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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:04:34pm

How do you spend $950k on rugs?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:05:50pm

re: #119 jaunte

How do you spend $950k on rugs?

Better question. Why spend that much on rugs?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:06:02pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:09:28pm

re: #119 jaunte

How do you spend $950k on rugs?

Add a “d” to the beginning.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:09:40pm

re: #101 I Would Prefer Not To

Take care. As others have noted, this is not as bad as it seems. It takes time to put together a complicated case like this one.

Watergate took over two years to play out, and we didn’t have instant communications about every niggling detail like we do now to obsess over.

There has never been a Republican president in my life (except Eisenhower and I was too young to remember him) that was not corrupt. I see nothing new now. We’ll get through all this. Hopefully, the GOP will pay a price for this.

Moreover, the right-wing nutbar judges that Heritage and others want nominated just got their path spiked. There ain’t no way Trump’s White House is going to be worrying about nominating judges when he’s looking on Expedia for tickets to a non-extradition country.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:10:18pm

re: #122 The Vicious Babushka

Finest Afghan… weave.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:14:04pm

re: #104 Targetpractice

What you see in this clip is a very real effort to begin weaponizing anger and fear over the potential that Trump will be removed from office. These people are truly trying to incite violence in the hopes that they can scare reasonable people into arguing that Trump be left in power just to avoid all-out war.

Thing is Trumps policies and his followers present a two level threat to ordinary people. Thanks to the long war our young know how to fight and know violence. You learn how to make an IED when you learn to defeat an IED. On the policy side we have repeal without replace, deportations and jailings. Destroy the (edit) wrong family with any of those policies, a family with a trained up guy that has nothing to lose. He acts on his desperation and anger.

Or this guys voluntary deplorable army Trump Youth. They go out all White Lives Matter with armor on and open carry, the counter protesters do the same and it’s on.

We really needed today. I’m feeling very grateful.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:14:14pm

Dan Rather:
“…In Watergate, there was a growing sense of pressure. But the crime itself was rather contained. Here the crimes are allegedly widespread and strike at the very heart of our democratic institutions. There is a strong suggestion that there were active agents for the Russian government working inside the highest echelons of the Trump campaign.”

Facebook Post

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:14:59pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s really losing his mind, isn’t he? Good.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:16:22pm

Tomorrow would be a good day for Mueller to release Trump’s tax returns.

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MsJ  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:18:41pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

How did I ever have a crush on Jonathan Turley? Good God. Shoot me.

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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:18:41pm
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danarchy  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:18:45pm

re: #128 jaunte

Tomorrow would be a good day for Mueller to release Trump’s tax returns.

I think the only way for him to do that legally would be to get them introduced as evidence in a public court proceeding. He doesn’t seem to be the sort of guy who is going to illegally leak info.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:19:41pm

re: #131 danarchy

I agree. Just an idle fantasy.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:19:55pm

re: #101 I Would Prefer Not To

Yum. That food sounds delicious. Wish I had a Caribbean restaurant nearby. Good on you for helping out that lady.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:20:03pm

Speaking of fantasies.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:20:20pm

My suggestion that the Republican Party itself be prosecuted, and abolished, will seem extreme but consider what would have happened if Nixon had accused McGovern campaign manager Gary Hart of being a Soviet agent. Imagine further that it was proven true.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:20:32pm

“Witness pile.”

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:20:54pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:22:00pm

re: #110 jaunte

Tonight everyone in the White House is trying to recall if they saw Papadopoulos in the room, were on the phone with him, after he could have been wired by the FBI.
Sweating.

Nah, the real sweating is over who else has turned coat, who else has cut a deal to get out from under Mueller’s hammer. There was no indication whatsoever that Papadopoulos had flipped. It caught everybody on both sides of the aisle by surprise and changed the calculus.

I suspect Cobb and Sekulow are gonna have nightmares tonight of all the “volunteers” that were connected to the campaign who might have already cut a deal with Mueller.

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austin_blue  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:22:34pm

re: #119 jaunte

How do you spend $950k on rugs?

To give them a good shampooing, sell them, and send the money back to the people that gave it to you in the first place, pocketing your 10% vig.

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:23:09pm

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

I keep missing that Trump posted that picture.

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The Major  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:24:47pm

re: #115 Anymouse 🌹

The one veteran on my city council? Me, the leftie socialist. The Republicans? Never been anywhere near a military base or naval vessel.

And you, more than other Veterans who want us to take pity on them because they were drafted in an unjust war during Vietnam and throw the statement “You never served, did you?” at us, failing to understand that (1) It wasn’t our choice at the time and (2) While you served, every single US Citizen paid our tax dollars so you could serve, and receive free benefits that many Americans can’t get due to your sacrifice…
I salute you.

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The Major  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:26:20pm

re: #135 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

When I grew up, I actually had sane Republicans: George Romney and Bill Milliken.

Today, those are such a rare breed as to be extinct.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:26:32pm

re: #134 jaunte

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Speaking of fantasies.

Beyond delusional. He must be out of his mind as well. They’re all living in Lala land.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:27:14pm

re: #135 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Looking past Trump, what do we do with the Russians who got so far into our system and had such consequential crimes on their hands? That’s the other shoe here.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:27:35pm

Mueller obviously launched his boats early and has them perfectly positioned to pick up the rats as they flee the sinking SS Trump.

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electrotek  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:27:50pm

Anyone familiar with Fort Wayne, Indiana?

Was reading about the Rohingyas being resettled over there where there is a large Burmese community already present. Of course, had to read this from a self-described “Christian”:

Most of the foreign born Burmese population of Fort Wayne speak a different language and have a different religion than the Rohingya. The ethnic and religious tensions that fueled their flight from Myanmar are still an issue in the U.S.

“Why I don’t like Rohingya to come to Fort Wayne is …most of them…almost 100 percent…are Muslims,” said Abraham Thang, a Burmese Chin community leader.

Thang moved to Fort Wayne in the 1990s.

“They’re blood is Muslims, not Buddhist, not Christians,” he said. “They did a very terrible job, like attacking the military and police post and killing and murdering the Hindus. That is not good for Rohingyas. That is a big mistake by Rohingyas.”

Thang is a leader at the Myanmar Indigenous Christian Church. He was one of the few Burmese who was willing to talk to VOA about the Rohingya settlement in Fort Wayne. While he says these are his own opinions, they represent the same issues the Rohingya experience in Myanmar.

“I don’t mind they practice what they believe,” Thang explained to VOA.

“What I mind is extremism,” he added. “Most of the terrorists come from the Muslim community. This is what I am thinking in my mind personally. So my opinion is rather than sending Rohingya to Fort Wayne - and not sending them is better - don’t send the Rohingya to Fort Wayne.”

VOANews

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:28:53pm

re: #115 Anymouse 🌹

The one veteran on my city council? Me, the leftie socialist. The Republicans? Never been anywhere near a military base or naval vessel.

The only two veterans in the area I work in out of 25 people are the two Democrats.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:29:31pm

re: #146 electrotek

I spent a few months in Terre Haute one week.

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The Major  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:31:48pm

re: #144 Unshaken Defiance

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:31:54pm

Well, it would appear my letter to the editor of the regional newspaper standing against nutbar conspiracy radio host Sam Clovis for Chief Scientist of the USDA was the right call.

Perhaps I can get a job at the Scottsbluff Star-Herald as a political pundit (bwahahaha no).

Happy Birthday Ivanka LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Luv Robert Mueller (goes to Wonkette, wherein they explain the good things that come out of today’s events for Ivanka Trump)

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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:32:42pm

re: #146 electrotek

I saw a Phish show once in Noblesville, outside of Indianapolis. Got absolutely soaked by a torrential rainstorm that delayed the second set by an hour.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:33:09pm
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electrotek  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:33:36pm

re: #151 teleskiguy

I saw a Phish show once in Noblesville, outside of Indianapolis. Got absolutely soaked by a torrential rainstorm that delayed the second set by an hour.

Sounds like jam band heaven haha

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:35:07pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:36:22pm

re: #149 The Major

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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:36:37pm

re: #153 electrotek

Sounds like jam band heaven haha

While the storm moved through during the extended set break (some of the most spectacular lightning I’ve ever seen, BTW) the squares were definitely scared off. When the second set started, there were definitely less people, more room to move around, and the denizens had a high wook factor.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:36:49pm

Here’s a psycho to report

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Interesting Times  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:38:37pm

re: #135 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

My suggestion that the Republican Party itself be prosecuted, and abolished, will seem extreme but consider what would have happened if Nixon had accused McGovern campaign manager Gary Hart of being a Soviet agent. Imagine further that it was proven true.

Speaking of Nixon, I just came across this four-year-old article which is…horrific at multiple levels: The Lyndon Johnson tapes: Richard Nixon’s ‘treason’

It begins in the summer of 1968. Nixon feared a breakthrough at the Paris Peace talks designed to find a negotiated settlement to the Vietnam war, and he knew this would derail his campaign.

He therefore set up a clandestine back-channel involving Anna Chennault, a senior campaign adviser.

In late October 1968 there were major concessions from Hanoi which promised to allow meaningful talks to get underway in Paris - concessions that would justify Johnson calling for a complete bombing halt of North Vietnam. This was exactly what Nixon feared.

Chennault was despatched to the South Vietnamese embassy with a clear message: the South Vietnamese government should withdraw from the talks, refuse to deal with Johnson, and if Nixon was elected, they would get a much better deal.

So on the eve of his planned announcement of a halt to the bombing, Johnson learned the South Vietnamese were pulling out.

But here’s the money quote:

The president did let Humphrey know and gave him enough information to sink his opponent. But by then, a few days from the election, Humphrey had been told he had closed the gap with Nixon and would win the presidency. So Humphrey decided it would be too disruptive to the country to accuse the Republicans of treason, if the Democrats were going to win anyway.

Gee…sound familiar? -_-

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:38:42pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:38:54pm

re: #49 PhillyPretzel

That is why some people say, “Truth is stranger than fiction.”

This is why I don’t like much fiction and fantasy. I like the endeavors of real people and I love a good crime story.

And this is shaping up as a nice crime story even with what will turn out to be comedic elements worthy of The Three Stooges.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:38:58pm

re: #141 The Major

And you, more than other Veterans who want us to take pity on them because they were drafted in an unjust war during Vietnam and throw the statement “You never served, did you?” at us, failing to understand that (1) It wasn’t our choice at the time and (2) While you served, every single US Citizen paid our tax dollars so you could serve, and receive free benefits that many Americans can’t get due to your sacrifice…
I salute you.

I get the unjust war part. I would much rather have my father than a gold pin worth about $75. There are many Vietnamese who don’t even have that.

As for the free benefits (particularly medical for me and my family as a disabled vet), I would much rather have those for everyone rather than simply signing up for military service, even if I did volunteer for it. A nation as wealthy and powerful as ours should be able to provide that for every last person in the nation.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:40:08pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:42:04pm

re: #159 jaunte

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That’s treason. You’re from Boston.

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:43:04pm

re: #154 Charles Johnson

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And one side was wrong.

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MsJ  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:43:15pm

re: #106 FormerDirtDart

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:44:31pm

re: #165 MsJ

Some of us on the left are able to openly admit we’re not adults.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:44:46pm

re: #162 Charles Johnson

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:47:05pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:47:08pm

re: #73 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The only one that’s grotesque here is you, Newt. You had your 15 minutes of fame, now get the fuck out.

I liken Newtie to a weathervane. Just look at the wind blowing out of his mouth and you can tell the direction The Party is headed at that moment.

And he is always blowing.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:47:12pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:47:19pm

re: #144 Unshaken Defiance

Looking past Trump, what do we do with the Russians who got so far into our system and had such consequential crimes on their hands? That’s the other shoe here.

One pipe dream I like to entertain is that if Trump gets removed from office for his crimes that the damage to the GOP ends up being so severe that:

1) By 2020 Democrats have 2/3 in the Senate and control of the House,

2) Democrats have the will to use that power to systematically impeach and remove from office all of Trump judicial nominations on the grounds that a crook should not have his nominations stand for lifetime appointments, and

3) The mainstream media views this as a routine cleanup operation.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:48:19pm

re: #170 Charles Johnson

At least they’ve come around to admitting there’s something wrong about Americans colluding with Russia.

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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:49:23pm

re: #162 Charles Johnson

Screw you John Kelly!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:49:40pm

re: #171 EPR-radar

One pipe dream I like to entertain is that if Trump gets removed from office for his crimes that the damage to the GOP ends up being so severe that:

1) By 2020 Democrats have 2/3 in the Senate and control of the House,

2) Democrats have the will to use that power to systematically impeach and remove from office all of Trump judicial nominations on the grounds that a crook should not have his nominations stand for lifetime appointments, and

3) The mainstream media views this as a routine cleanup operation.

4) The Electoral College is eliminated.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:49:53pm

re: #170 Charles Johnson

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:51:39pm
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BigPapa  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:53:09pm

So Mueller and Comey colluded with the Russians when and for what reason exactly?
This lies are getting even more out there.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:53:11pm

re: #170 Charles Johnson

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That is so fucked up. Hannity has officially gone full Alex Jones. He has no proof of that at all. Just his pathetic twisted love of Trump.

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meteor  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:53:33pm

I so wish there were baseball tonight instead of just tomorrow.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:53:39pm

re: #176 jaunte

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In best Rod Serling, now imagine if you will had Rahm Emanuel said this about the PRC.

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calochortus  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:54:27pm

I wonder how many GOP members of the House are sleeping poorly tonight?
They have to decide how much they want to support what looks like it will be a very damaged administration. On the one hand, 80+% of Republicans support Trump, so they might be primaried if they try to impeach him. On the other hand, Trump’s popularity is so low elsewhere that they could lose in the general if some of those Republicans stay home and others turn out.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:55:01pm

re: #181 calochortus

I wonder how many GOP members of the House are sleeping poorly tonight?
They have to decide how much they want to support what looks like it will be a very damaged administration. On the one hand, 80+% of Republicans support Trump, so they might be primaried if they try to impeach him. On the other hand, Trump’s popularity is so low elsewhere that they could lose in the general if some of those Republicans stay home and others turn out.

I don’t feel bad for them at all for being in that predicament.

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calochortus  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:55:48pm

re: #182 HappyWarrior

I don’t feel bad for them at all for being in that predicament.

Well, naturally I don’t feel bad for them either. :)

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:55:50pm

re: #45 Blind Frog Belly White

Patrick Swayze spy musical?

No one puts Donnie in a corner?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:55:59pm

re: #177 BigPapa

So Mueller and Comey colluded with the Russians when and for what reason exactly?
This lies are getting even more out there.

The RWNJs were sure that they were succeeding in destroying our liberal democracy, and now the law is closing in on their god emperor. They’re all insane and freaking out.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:58:21pm

You know, I never liked Hannity ever but accusing Comey and Mueller of collusion with Russia is just wow. Hell I don’t even know who Mueller supported in the last election. Note to the GOP, he’s saying this about two men who are both registered Republicans and who were appointed in the last GOP administration. When do you finally say enough is enough and get rid of Trump? But I get it, you sold your souls out for tax cuts and to enable a xenophobic base so it’s okay for Hannity to question teh patriotism of men like Comey and Mueller.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:58:40pm

re: #183 calochortus

Well, naturally I don’t feel bad for them either. :)

I know heh. Seriously what a bunch of pathetic jackasses.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:59:08pm

Stuart Stevens on Lawrence O’Donnell’s show. I guess we’ve all forgotten what a horrible right wing creep he is, too.

The Shady Past of Mitt Romney’s Chief Strategist

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:59:10pm

“I think we make a mistake, though, and as a society and certainly as, as individuals, when we take what is today accepted as right and wrong and go back 100, 200, 300 years or more and say…’what Christopher Columbus did was wrong,’” Kelly said on the premiere of Fox News’ “The Ingraham Angle.”

“…I certify to you that, with the help of God, we shall powerfully enter into your country, and shall make war against you in all ways and manners that we can, and shall subject you to the yoke and obedience of the Church and of their highnesses; we shall take you, and your wives, and your children, and shall make slaves of them, and as such shall sell and dispose of them as their highnesses may command; and we shall take away your goods, and shall do you all the mischief and damage that we can, as to vassals who do not obey, and refuse to receive their lord, and resist and contradict him; and we protest that the deaths and losses which shall accrue from this are your fault, and not that of their highnesses, or ours, nor of these cavaliers who come with us…”
Text quoted from: “El Requerimiento” in Wilcomb Washburn, ed. The Indian and the White Man.

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gocart mozart  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:59:56pm
Nigel Farage is a “person of interest” in the US counter-intelligence investigation that is looking into possible collusion between the Kremlin and Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, the Guardian has been told.

Sources with knowledge of the investigation said the former Ukip leader had raised the interest of FBI investigators because of his relationships with individuals connected to both the Trump campaign and Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder whom Farage visited in March.

He’s right in the middle of these relationships. He turns up over and over again

WikiLeaks published troves of hacked emails last year that damaged Hillary Clinton’s campaign and is suspected of having cooperated with Russia through third parties, according to recent congressional testimony by the former CIA director John Brennan, who also said the adamant denials of collusion by Assange and Russia were disingenuous.

Farage has not been accused of wrongdoing and is not a suspect or a target of the US investigation. But being a person of interest means investigators believe he may have information about the acts that are under investigation and he may therefore be subject to their scrutiny.

Sources who spoke to the Guardian said it was Farage’s proximity to people at the heart of the investigation that was being examined as an element in their broader inquiry into how Russia may have worked with Trump campaign officials to influence the US election.

theguardian.com

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austin_blue  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:00:34pm

re: #185 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The RWNJs were sure that they were succeeding in destroying our liberal democracy, and now the law is closing in on their god emperor. They’re all insane and freaking out.

Inorite? To think that the anointed one should be subject to such mundane things as “the rule of law” n shit.

It’s just so unfair! MAGAP!

(Monafort and Gates and PapaD)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:00:55pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

Stuart Stevens on Lawrence O’Donnell’s show. I guess we’ve all forgotten what a horrible right wing creep he is, too.

The Shady Past of Mitt Romney’s Chief Strategist

Would I be off Charles in suggesting there ought to be a lawyer that anyone involved in running a persidential campaign can’t have had lobbied for a foreign government? This stuff is just disturbing. It’s not just Manafort, Stevens, but also people like Sanders’ former campaign manager, Davine.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:01:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:01:37pm

re: #190 gocart mozart

theguardian.com

Ah Nigel may have been what was meant when we heard this could be headed international. I think a lot thought Assenge and he still may be but I had completely forgotten about Farrage.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:02:30pm

re: #193 FormerDirtDart

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We’re in a new Cold War. I hate to sound nuts but I’d say the Cold War has merely been on reboot mode for a while.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:03:32pm

Putin has done what Stalin, Khrushchev, and other Soviet leaders never could. He divided the U.S. and he found a willing American to help him. Screw Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, but I can’t see either of them doing what Trump and his guys did. And yes I know about Nixon’s doings in Vietnam.

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The Major  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:04:33pm

re: #155 Unshaken Defiance

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MsJ  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:04:58pm

re: #157 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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stpaulbear  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:05:45pm

re: #119 jaunte

How do you spend $950k on rugs?

Here’s one way.

Baluch Rug, ca. 1930 | Web Appraisal | Santa Clara

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Stanley Sea  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:07:36pm

Go down in FLAMES

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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:07:54pm

re: #179 meteor

Meteor have some mercy, people need to sleep!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:08:13pm

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Putin has done what Stalin, Khrushchev, and other Soviet leaders never could. He divided the U.S. and he found a willing American to help him. Screw Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, but I can’t see either of them doing what Trump and his guys did. And yes I know about Nixon’s doings in Vietnam.

Happy, this is what I’ve been saying ever since last year! Putin has succeeded where Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Khrushchev, and Brezhnev failed! He’s successfully turned the Republican Party into a Russian front and he’s destabilized the United States. Yet when I started to post this on Daily Kos I was ridiculed!

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:08:49pm

re: #112 jaunte

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And they started thinking about this today?

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EPR-radar  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:09:07pm

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Putin has done what Stalin, Khrushchev, and other Soviet leaders never could. He divided the U.S. and he found a willing American to help him. Screw Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, but I can’t see either of them doing what Trump and his guys did. And yes I know about Nixon’s doings in Vietnam.

As far as I can tell, the Russians have done nothing to the US that the GOP, Mercers and Koch brothers haven’t being doing for decades. If some kind of Russia scandal ends up taking out Trump, great, but the real problem is an electorate having a critical fraction of infinitely reprogrammable meatheads that prefer propaganda to reality.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:09:47pm

re: #179 meteor

I so wish there were baseball tonight instead of just tomorrow.

re: #201 JordanRules

Meteor have some mercy, people need to sleep!

Tell me about it. I’m freakin’ exhusted

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majii  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:09:52pm

re: #178 HappyWarrior

“Just his pathetic twisted love of Trump.”

Hannity will never have a “come to Jesus” moment in regard to this administration just as he never had one in the last administration ——because the truth doesn’t matter to him or to the millions that support Trump and get their news from Fox. There’s a reason Fox viewers are less informed about our government that those of us who don’t get our information by watching Fox. I can’t watch Fox News because their constant lying pisses me off and gets on my last d*mn nerve.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:10:22pm

I am truly afraid for Hillary right now. With all the hate being directed at her by Fox News I fear another Scott Roeder is being programmed to kill her.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:11:27pm
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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:11:54pm

re: #192 HappyWarrior

Yup. I think Davine should be looked into!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:13:16pm

re: #87 FormerDirtDart

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majii  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:13:42pm

re: #184 dangerman

“No one puts Donnie in a corner?”

Right, because his loose lips and misfiring brain causes him to put himself in a corner. Dude was so sure last year that being POTUS was a cakewalk, but the job is above his skill set. Way above. He lacks the intellect and the self-discipline required to be a successful POTUS.

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EPR-radar  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:14:09pm

re: #202 Joe Bacon 🌹

Happy, this is what I’ve been saying ever since last year! Putin has succeeded where Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Khrushchev, and Brezhnev failed! He’s successfully turned the Republican Party into a Russian front and he’s destabilized the United States. Yet when I started to post this on Daily Kos I was ridiculed!

IMO this Russia business is part of the Trump stench. The Mercers and Koch brothers have more money than God, so they have no need to get in trouble by dealing with Russian criminals. As recently as 2012, Romney was saying Russia was our #1 enemy.

On the other hand, Trump is almost certainly owned by the Russians.

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austin_blue  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:14:32pm

re: #206 majii

“Just his pathetic twisted love of Trump.”

Hannity will never have a “come to Jesus” moment in regard to this administration just as he never had one in the last administration ——because the truth doesn’t matter to him or to the millions that support Trump and get their news from Fox. There’s a reason Fox viewers are less informed about our government that those of us who don’t get our information by watching Fox. I can’t watch Fox News because their constant lying pisses me off and gets on my last d*mn nerve.

I can’t watch Fox (or CNN or MSNBC) because I don’t have cable. I save a shit-pot of money and have a lot less aggravation in my life. I just have this broadband that allows me to pick and choose what content I read, and generally go to sites I trust. I spend a lot of time on UK media, which, if you ignore the tabs, is pretty interesting.

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Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:15:25pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:16:02pm
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jaunte  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:16:03pm

“…On the occasion corresponding to this four years ago all thoughts were anxiously directed to an impending civil war. All dreaded it, all sought to avert it. While the inaugural address was being delivered from this place, devoted altogether to saving the Union without war, insurgent agents were in the city seeking to destroy it without war—seeking to dissolve the Union and divide effects by negotiation. Both parties deprecated war, but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive, and the other would accept war rather than let it perish, and the war came.”
bartleby.com

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MsJ  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:16:53pm

re: #166 Belafon

Some of us on the left are able to openly admit we’re not adults.

I’m an adult when I have to be an adult.

Which I guess makes me an adult. Shit.

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:19:19pm

re: #200 Stanley Sea

Go down in FLAMES

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Could people start dropping banana peels wherever Bannon is walking?

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The Major  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:19:31pm

Now is THIS an interesting find…..

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whitebeach  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:19:40pm

re: #211 majii

“No one puts Donnie in a corner?”

Right, because his loose lips and misfiring brain causes him to put himself in a corner. Dude was so sure last year that being POTUS was a cakewalk, but the job is above his skill set. Way above. He lacks the intellect and the self-discipline required to be a successful POTUS.

He lacks the intellect and the self-discipline required to be a successful goldfish.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:19:43pm

re: #217 MsJ

I’m an adult when I have to be an adult.

Which I guess makes me an adult. Shit.

Someone around here has to be the adult /s

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austin_blue  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:20:31pm

re: #212 EPR-radar

IMO this Russia business is part of the Trump stench. The Mercers and Koch brothers have more money than God, so they have no need to get in trouble by dealing with Russian criminals. As recently as 2012, Romney was saying Russia was our #1 enemy.

On the other hand, Trump is almost certainly owned by the Russians.

Maybe literally. After American banks quit floating paper for him after the Atlantic City fiasco, Drumpf (The King of Debt!) had to find new sources of capital or he was going to die financially. Hello Russia! A kleptocracy that needs to launder funds to get American dollars to expand outside of the Rodinya.

A marriage made in mafia heaven.

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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:21:51pm

re: #219 The Major

The delusions of grandeur are tiring.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:23:15pm

Happy Indictment Day, Ivanka… .

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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:23:22pm

re: #204 EPR-radar

But they aren’t allowed to do it and that is a line that exists for a reason. I agree with what you’ve said about the electorate and feeding off of things that already existed but a great historic foe, another nuclear power, another nation state can’t do it.
And it makes sense to see where the intersection is because maybe the American entities colluded and crossed that line too.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:23:54pm

re: #158 Interesting Times

Speaking of Nixon, I just came across this four-year-old article which is…horrific at multiple levels: The Lyndon Johnson tapes: Richard Nixon’s ‘treason’

But here’s the money quote:

Gee…sound familiar? -_-

I didn’t realize till just now that Anna Chennault is still alive (she’s 92). She has been involved in an incredible amount of Republican skulduggery over the years.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:26:39pm

re: #170 Charles Johnson

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They need something this crazy bizzare and twisted otherwise they got nothing and would have to acknowledge the truth

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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:28:07pm

re: #212 EPR-radar

Oh but they do have a reason to get in bed with a powerful ally, even if foreign (and not really an ally), because they can’t win without cheating in multiple ways. However they can get the Ws needed to get their tax cuts and bigot laws is all good.

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TedStriker  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:28:39pm

re: #130 teleskiguy

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:29:06pm

Sitting here with a smile, imagining everyone in the Trump WH racking their brains trying to remember any conversations/communications they’ve had with Papadopolous. *snicker*

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austin_blue  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:29:08pm

re: #219 The Major

Now is THIS an interesting find…..

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Even more interesting! The Podesta Group is run by Tony Podesta, not his brother John. Hillary’s Podesta had NOTHING TO DO with Yanukovich and Manafort.

This is not rocket science. All you have to do is type “Podesta” and Yanukovich” into Google, and it pops right up on this subject. There is no “both sides”. Tony is not John.

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MsJ  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:30:50pm

re: #200 Stanley Sea

Go down in FLAMES

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Hopefully every last one of them.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:31:06pm

re: #186 HappyWarrior

You know, I never liked Hannity ever but accusing Comey and Mueller of collusion with Russia is just wow. Hell I don’t even know who Mueller supported in the last election. Note to the GOP, he’s saying this about two men who are both registered Republicans and who were appointed in the last GOP administration. When do you finally say enough is enough and get rid of Trump? But I get it, you sold your souls out for tax cuts and to enable a xenophobic base so it’s okay for Hannity to question teh patriotism of men like Comey and Mueller.

They had pussygate liargate and cheatergate.
Comey and Mueller aren’t “,theirs”anymore
This barely registers

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:35:00pm

re: #200 Stanley Sea

Go down in FLAMES

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New lawyers can’t erase Twitter
Or tapes from a wire
Or public photos
Or

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:35:20pm

re: #209 JordanRules

Yup. I think Davine should be looked into!

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I definitely do wonder about Sanders given that.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 8:38:54pm

re: #211 majii

“No one puts Donnie in a corner?”

Right, because his loose lips and misfiring brain causes him to put himself in a corner. Dude was so sure last year that being POTUS was a cakewalk, but the job is above his skill set. Way above. He lacks the intellect and the self-discipline required to be a successful POTUS.

And that would be true even without having to manage all this illegal nonsense. And Twitter. And rallies. And family and


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