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1
JordanRules  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:07:23pm
2
Skip Intro  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:10:43pm

He wouldn’t know about it unless it was on Hannity.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:11:56pm
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meteor  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:12:11pm

re: #1 JordanRules

“Make”? He already is.

BLACK SABBATH - Paranoid (1970) (Full Album)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:12:57pm

Looks like the World Series is heading to a 7th game unless something drastically changes. Would be second year in a row it goes the distance.

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meteor  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:13:12pm

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

Cool! :)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:13:53pm

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

Looks like the World Series is heading to a 7th game unless something drastically changes. Would be second year in a row it goes the distance.

That’s fine with me.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:14:10pm

re: #3 FormerDirtDart

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Oh snap.

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gwangung  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:14:31pm

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg,

Looks like the World Series is heading to a 7th game unless something drastically changes. Would be second year in a row it goes the distance.

Fine with me, because

A) Vin Scully,
B) What happened to Yu Darvish.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:15:14pm

From the previous thread:

re: #203 b_sharp

It’s a constant fight to retain the social/economic gains made in the name of socialism even in SK. The province has leaned right for the past 30 yrs in the rural areas, & Regina has been invaded by AB conservatives since oil has become our big economic driver.

We also have a small but vocal group of pro-life assholes who hold gatherings so they can yell at people. I’m sorry you had to go through that shit.

You don’t need to be sorry, that wasn’t your fault. It was only one incident in a very pleasant trip. Regina is a very diverse and beautiful city; 13-10, will go again.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:15:33pm

re: #3 FormerDirtDart

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HappyWarrior  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:15:46pm

re: #9 gwangung

,

Fine with me, because

A) Vin Scully,
B) What happened to Yu Darvish.

I hope they invite Vin to the booth tomorrow night if it happens. The man is a baseball treasure.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:16:56pm

Will the NYPD please make the two helicopters, which I assume are press, that have been hovering above my Tribeca apartment building for the past hour and a half go the hell away? People gotta work in the morning!

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Kragar  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:17:07pm

re: #3 FormerDirtDart

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b_sharp  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:17:13pm

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹

From the previous thread:

You don’t need to be sorry, that wasn’t your fault. It was only one incident in a very pleasant trip. Regina is a very diverse and beautiful city; 13-10, will go again.

Good to hear. Next time give me notice & we’ll have coffee.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:22:04pm

re: #15 b_sharp

Good to hear. Next time give me notice & we’ll have coffee.

Hey, thanks.

My wife suggested a really good Indian food restaurant there for my birthday; I’d never been in an Indian cuisine restaurant before. She told the proprietor that and the fellow directed his staff to load our table with so much food the table legs were straining under the weight.

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b_sharp  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:23:02pm

re: #16 Anymouse 🌹

Hey, thanks.

My wife suggested a really good Indian food restaurant there for my birthday; I’d never been in an Indian cuisine restaurant before. She told the proprietor that and the fellow directed his staff to load our table with so much food the table legs were straining under the weight.

Which one was it?

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:25:43pm

Real Benghazi. Win For Us.

US Effort to Find Those Behind the Benghazi Attack Nets a Second Suspect
thedrive.com

On Oct. 30, 2017, the U.S. government confirmed that it had launched a mission in an undisclosed location in Libya to apprehend Mustafa Al Imam in connection with the Benghazi incident. At that time, the U.S. Justice Department said that American authorities were transporting Al Imam, a Libyan national who it said was approximately 46 years old, back to the United States to stand trial.

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b_sharp  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:26:39pm

re: #16 Anymouse 🌹

Hey, thanks.

My wife suggested a really good Indian food restaurant there for my birthday; I’d never been in an Indian cuisine restaurant before. She told the proprietor that and the fellow directed his staff to load our table with so much food the table legs were straining under the weight.

My favourite is Da India Curry House.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:27:22pm

re: #11 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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The only answer to BillO is 32 million and vibrators.

Nothing else.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:28:02pm

re: #17 b_sharp

Which one was it?

It is the Caraway Grill … just down Broad Street from the Wingate Hotel (where we were staying).

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SteelPH  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:29:59pm

re: #18 Unshaken Defiance

Real Benghazi. Win For Us.

US Effort to Find Those Behind the Benghazi Attack Nets a Second Suspect
thedrive.com

But but, I thought it was Hillary and Obama who went there personally to slaughter them!
//

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Belafon  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:33:52pm

My son wanted to show me this song on Samantha Bee performed by Ingrid Michaelson:

(Earth is) Not OK ft. Ingrid Michaelson | October 25, 2017 | Full Frontal on TBS

But it was preceded by a very funny ad about a mattress:

How to Use a Raw Egg to Determine if Your Mattress is Awful - #PURPLE

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:34:19pm
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Single-handed sailor  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:34:42pm

re: #20 Stanley Sea

The only answer to BillO is 32 million and vibrators.

Nothing else.

Loofa

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b_sharp  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:35:36pm

re: #21 Anymouse 🌹

It is the Caraway Grill … just down Broad Street from the Wingate Hotel (where we were staying).

I’ll have to try that one.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:37:14pm

re: #26 b_sharp

I’ll have to try that one.

The place doesn’t look like much from the outside, and it’s rather small on the inside. My wife and I arrived right between the normal lunch and dinner hours, so we had the whole place to ourselves. The food and service were superb.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:37:26pm
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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:37:50pm

How about I copy and paste my #157 from last night onto his comments?

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Kragar  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:38:56pm
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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:39:39pm

re: #23 Belafon

That and the squatty potty ads are the only ones I never skipped

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:40:18pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:41:06pm
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scottslemmons  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:41:12pm

Ohh, y’all want some kooky ads, huh?

He-Man and Skeletor Dancing | Money Supermarket Commercial

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Stanley Sea  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:41:19pm

re: #25 Single-handed sailor

Loofa

Yeah, add that. Don’t forget the most recent tho.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:41:38pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:42:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:42:39pm

Lre: #36 Anymouse 🌹

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Bring a gold star father doesn’t give him a pass for rationalizing slavery.

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whitebeach  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:43:34pm

When Fats Domino died, millions mourned and spoke well of him.

When Bill O’Reilly goes, some cemetery gate guard will make a small fortune letting people piss on his grave.

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meteor  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:44:52pm

Dodgers win. Here cones game 7.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:45:04pm

re: #39 whitebeach

Ben Franklin’s grave is close to the sidewalk in Philadelphia, and people toss pennies onto the site. Shouldn’t they be throwing 100 dollar bills?

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Belafon  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:45:12pm

Images of our yard today, after getting everything out, before it got dark.

The fence my dad made with wood, PVC, and some of the little decorative fence pieces on top. The creature right behind it is my 12 year old son, who had fun scaring people by standing very still until they got really close. If you look on his left, you will see a small cross. That is the one my dad made to mark my grandmother’s grave until she got her final marker. We put it out every year.

The graveyard
The arch and witches
The “Doctor”
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:45:20pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

L

Bring a gold star father doesn’t give him a pass for rationalizing slavery.

Yup. And said Gold Star Father attacked a new Gold Star Widow on top of that.

While it’s terrible that John Kelly’s son was killed, that does not otherwise excuse racist and deplorable behaviour (or his contempt for officials, which is a crime under the UCMJ).

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Belafon  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:46:12pm

re: #31 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

That and the squatty potty ads are the only ones I never skipped

We weren’t going to watch it but it just kept being good.

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Kragar  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:46:13pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:46:34pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

L

Bring a gold star father doesn’t give him a pass for rationalizing slavery.

Nobody gets a pass on the idea of owning people. Nor rape, nor murder.
Anathema to civilization.

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Teukka  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:47:30pm

re: #45 Kragar

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Or exposed to something that makes them question the leader.

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gocart mozart  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:47:38pm

Twitter Suspended Me for Trolling White Supremacists
I tweeted what was intended as satire of a festering right-wing panic over Antifa allegedly planning violence on November 4. It got weird from there.
vice.com

Twitter’s “safety” system appears to be mostly based on a combination of keywords and frequency of reports, so if a group of extremely alpha gamergate types decide they don’t like someone, all they need to do is wait to see the right word and then coordinate a mass-reporting.

In my case, I decided to mock festering panic over an exceedingly fake Civil War plot for which thousands of FOX News grandparents may, at this very moment, be boarding up their windows in panicked preparation. Right wingers have a predilection for fearing Antifa, despite the fact that they only seem to show up at neo-Nazi rallies and to protest police brutality. Anyone with a single crease in their brain could see that my post was satire, but alas, the internet has no shortage of morons, and the tweet was apparently reported into oblivion.

The ensuing suspension was so thorough that my work account was axed for using the same phone number. (I reached out to Twitter for comment in connection with this story, but had yet to hear back at the time of publication.)If you doubt the utter gullibility of the people I’m referencing, look no further than this article from the Gateway Pundit, which breathlessly reported the obvious parody, after it was tweeted again by someone else, as factual news. (This is a “publication” that at least at one point had White House press credentials, by the way.) I should qualify here that while I have no love whatsoever for fascists, I am neither the president, the chairman, nor the CEO of Antifa. Either the author of the aforementioned piece was cynically using the joke to stoke the fears of elderly conservatives, or else he is just a fucking idiot.

People have screamed for years about the weird shit Twitter inexplicably tolerates, chiefly the ability of coordinated hate mobs to drive people off of the site. But if you weren’t familiar with my account before, all I can say is that it was significantly less toxic than that of the American Nazi Party. I may have poked fun at the Scaramucci Post’s editorial strategy or Mike Huckabee’s inconceivably bad attempts at jokes. But weren’t those jabs less worthy of punishment than say, calling for America to return to an all-white ethno-state?

Maybe it’s just me.

Read the whole thing

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Stanley Sea  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:47:46pm

I will submit my probably monthly plea/commentary

I wish you of LGF would not post poisonous, idiotic tweets from the dregs of society who, without your posting would never see the light of day.

It feeds outrage. They are not worth a second beyond reading their stupid tweet when you decide to go into the replies.

And they are probably bots.

TY

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HappyWarrior  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:48:00pm

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹

Yup. And said Gold Star Father attacked a new Gold Star Widow on top of that.

While it’s terrible that John Kelly’s son was killed, that does not otherwise excuse racist and deplorable behaviour (or his contempt for officials, which is a crime under the UCMJ).

Precisely.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:48:40pm

re: #45 Kragar

Maybe the incessant incompetence has steeled them as well.

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SteelPH  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:48:51pm

re: #48 gocart mozart

Trolling white supremacists = bad.
Being a white supremacist = good.

Some wacko jacko logic there.

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whitebeach  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:49:33pm

re: #41 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

Ben Franklin’s grave is close to the sidewalk in Philadelphia, and people toss pennies onto the site. Shouldn’t they be throwing 100 dollar bills?

Dunno. It was Franklin who said, “A penny saved is a penny earned.”

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SteelPH  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:49:52pm

re: #49 Stanley Sea

It does is identify who I need to block.
But that’s all I’ll give it.

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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:50:39pm

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Teukka  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:50:56pm

re: #51 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

Maybe the incessant incompetence has steeled them as well.

Trumps or their own? Because if it’s Trumps, that might not be incessant incompetence, that may be intentional. Basically, running things into the ground as part of some plan.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:50:57pm

re: #53 whitebeach

Inflation.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:51:35pm

re: #42 Belafon

Images of our yard today, after getting everything out, before it got dark.

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Bravo. Especially your son.

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electrotek  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:52:22pm
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jaunte  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:53:48pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:54:03pm

Fox presents the news at the comprehension level of its viewers!

So, Twittler is Mr. Do Bee and Mr Mueller is Mr. Don’t Bee…
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Chrysicat  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:54:31pm
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Belafon  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:54:55pm

re: #59 electrotek

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Stanley Sea  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:55:30pm

re: #54 SteelPH

It does is identify who I need to block.
But that’s all I’ll give it.

Thing is, I’ve survived on twitter without blocking anyone, except Donald Trump, Melania Trump, Pence & Louise Weirdo. Maybe a couple of others.

If you don’t engage, they don’t bother you.

I like my twitter feed.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:56:21pm

re: #59 electrotek

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Yes, Miss Lindsay and his fellow RepubliKKKlans are in a KKKristian War…

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Stanley Sea  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:56:54pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

I can voice an opinion every once in awhile OK?

You are a jerk.

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JordanRules  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:57:14pm

re: #42 Belafon

Looks great!! Love that it’s a family affair.

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Chrysicat  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:57:35pm

re: #64 Stanley Sea

Of course, if you don’t engage, they also have their views out there unquestioned to convert a couple more of the people who were thinking about visiting Daily Stormer or Stormfront for the first time right around when we shut them down…

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SteelPH  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:59:07pm

re: #64 Stanley Sea

Thing is, I’ve survived on twitter without blocking anyone, except Donald Trump, Melania Trump, Pence & Louise Weirdo. Maybe a couple of others.

If you don’t engage, they don’t bother you.

I like my twitter feed.

True.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 31, 2017 • 8:59:45pm

re: #68 Chrysicat

Of course, if you don’t engage, they also have their views out there unquestioned to convert a couple more of the people who were thinking about visiting Daily Stormer or Stormfront for the first time right around when we shut them down…

Go for it! It’s just not my cuppa.

I check the followers of the idiots who’s tweets are posted and often they are 100ish.

they are getting amplified & in my opinion shouldn’t be.

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scottslemmons  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:00:18pm

re: #66 Stanley Sea

I can voice an opinion every once in awhile OK?

You are a jerk.

He’s our Moral Better, Stanley. When all of us think like our Moral Better, then we shall all finally be free of the corruption of Wrong Thinking.

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JordanRules  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:00:20pm
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Kragar  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:00:22pm

re: #59 electrotek

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gocart mozart  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:01:56pm

re: #48 gocart mozart

Twitter’s “safety” system appears to be mostly based on a combination of keywords and frequency of reports, so if a group of extremely alpha gamergate types decide they don’t like someone, all they need to do is wait to see the right word and then coordinate a mass-reporting.

I think this is what happened to me. I used a keyword “goatfucker” against some unhinged troll who was calling Obama a “crackhead” and his fellow goons unleashed a mass reporting on me. “Nazi” seems to also be a flagged word because I once l got a day suspension for calling a Holocaust denier that.

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austin_blue  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:03:40pm

re: #42 Belafon

Images of our yard today, after getting everything out, before it got dark.

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Look I’m not saying that’s a little over the top, but…

Actually, yeah, I guess I’m saying that’s a little over the top,

:-)

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Kragar  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:05:23pm
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scottslemmons  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:05:36pm

re: #74 gocart mozart

I think this is what happened to me. I used a keyword “goatfucker” against some unhinged troll who was calling Obama a “crackhead” and his fellow goons unleashed a mass reporting on me. “Nazi” seems to also be a flagged word because I once l got a day suspension for calling a Holocaust denier that.

I’ve been trying to avoid using the F-bomb when I tweet in response to people, specifically to try to keep that from happening to me. (I’ve been far from successful, because “fucking douchemook” is more satisfying than “freakin’ douchemook.”)

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scottslemmons  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:08:02pm

re: #77 scottslemmons

I’ve been trying to avoid using the F-bomb when I tweet in response to people, specifically to try to keep that from happening to me. (I’ve been far from successful, because “fucking douchemook” is more satisfying than “freakin’ douchemook.”)

Also, I tend to just mute/block every Trumper/Nazi I come across, rather than tweet at them. I don’t want to engage with them at all — ideally, I’d like to deprive them entirely of any eyeballs pointed their direction.

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austin_blue  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:08:31pm

re: #49 Stanley Sea

I will submit my probably monthly plea/commentary

I wish you of LGF would not post poisonous, idiotic tweets from the dregs of society who, without your posting would never see the light of day.

It feeds outrage. They are not worth a second beyond reading their stupid tweet when you decide to go into the replies.

And they are probably bots.

TY

Many of us don’t post Tweets, and agree with you.

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Belafon  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:10:11pm

My 12 year old scary son from above also wrote a Halloween song I used in the audio I had playing. I thought you might be interested. He used Finale PrintMusic.

Iframe

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JordanRules  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:10:49pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:11:52pm

Well at least he’s back

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Kragar  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:12:19pm
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whitebeach  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:12:45pm

re: #66 Stanley Sea

re: #71 scottslemmons

Basically I like teleski and think he’s a positive force here, on balance. But sometimes he does this kind of high-horse thing, and I don’t know why. I’ve been on the downrange end of it myself once or twice.

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retired cynic  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:12:51pm

re: #82 gocart mozart

Well at least he’s back

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Earlier I heard he put it up to create outrage. ??

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retired cynic  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:14:47pm

re: #85 retired cynic

Earlier I heard he put it up to create outrage. ??

duh. That he himself put it up.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:15:43pm

re: #49 Stanley Sea

I will submit my probably monthly plea/commentary

I wish you of LGF would not post poisonous, idiotic tweets from the dregs of society who, without your posting would never see the light of day.

It feeds outrage. They are not worth a second beyond reading their stupid tweet when you decide to go into the replies.

And they are probably bots.

TY

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whitebeach  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:18:29pm

re: #42 Belafon

Ummm … that’s really something.

So what’s Mardi Gras look like, chez vous?

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JordanRules  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:20:04pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:21:49pm

Wonkette reported on Katy Tur marrying last weekend.

wonkette.com

It’s Tuesday afternoon, but this week’s onslaught of news means it feels like Friday already, so we’re going to do happy news for the rest of the day, and FUCK IT WE’RE GONNA DO IT LIVE. Therefore, we have wonderful news, and it is that MSNBC’s Katy Tur and her sexxxy man friend Tony Dokoupil made an honest man and lady out of each other this weekend in Utah. (Picture above! What a dress! Editrix Rebecca would like to point out that all the best bride women people wear red!) They eloped, because that is what cool kids do, and Page Six reports that they did it in the most remote, out-of-the-way spot they could find, where Obamaphones don’t work and nobody can hear Donald Trump yelling, “Something is happening, Katy! You’re not reporting it, Katy!”

(more, with photo)

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jaunte  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:22:03pm
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Belafon  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:22:05pm

re: #88 whitebeach

Ummm … that’s really something.

So what’s Mardi Gras look like, chez vous?

Halloween’s our big day, and my wife just kind of buys stuff and then we make it work.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:22:17pm

re: #89 JordanRules

Lawsuit.

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retired cynic  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:22:31pm

re: #89 JordanRules

This is a constant game of one-downs-manship. Ghastly. All of them. Just ghastly. And they are taking turns devastated our country.

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JordanRules  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:24:17pm

re: #94 retired cynic

And it’s damn near hourly. 10 months. It’s abhorrent.

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Chrysicat  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:25:27pm
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whitebeach  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:27:59pm

re: #89 JordanRules

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I updinged you here because you’re pointing out something important, but it feels kind of weird because it’s like updinging somebody for saying, “Jesus Christ! The whole neighborhood is sinking into a lake of black cancerous ooze.”

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jaunte  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:28:22pm

re: #96 Chrysicat

Syncretinism.

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Interesting Times  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:28:59pm

Okay…now THIS is scary:

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SteelPH  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:29:54pm

re: #99 Interesting Times

Okay…now THIS is scary:

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MY EYES

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jaunte  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:30:10pm

re: #99 Interesting Times

“I said, everybody cough!”

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whitebeach  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:30:39pm

re: #99 Interesting Times

Okay…now THIS is scary:

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“Check their hair, Mr. President! No, sir, not that hair.”

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:33:21pm

re: #30 Kragar

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Uz beki beki stan stan isn’t one of the banned countries, so once again Trump’s ban wouldn’t have stopped the this attack.

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prairiefire  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:34:28pm

re: #92 Belafon

Halloween’s our big day, and my wife just kind of buys stuff and then we make it work.

It looks great. I love Halloween to beat back the fear and ghosties of regular life. Someone got a scream from your son, that’s great. So much better then the actually scary stuff. Rock on dude.

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Kragar  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:36:04pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:36:27pm

I had to smack SMOTI’s pal down again!

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austin_blue  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:37:15pm

re: #84 whitebeach

Basically I like teleski and think he’s a positive force here, on balance. But sometimes he does this kind of high-horse thing, and I don’t know why. I’ve been on the downrange end of it myself once or twice.

Hell, I think all of us over time have posted shit and we later thought “Jeez, did I really do that?”

I once humbly suggested that another Lizard “go lick a dog’s ass until it bleeds”.

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Kragar  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:37:16pm

re: #106 Joe Bacon 🌹

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JordanRules  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:39:18pm

re: #97 whitebeach

Ha. I get that.

I upding for sad/bad content all the time because I really do appreciate all y’all lizards being and keeping me informed.

I do think folks should stop shadowboxing with bots tho. LOL

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:41:09pm
The Texas congressvarmint who almost since-handedly destroyed every banking regulation we got under Obama, is now ready to join Corporate America and reap his rewards while he can.

The powerful chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, U.S. Rep. Jeb Hensarling, a Dallas Republican, announced his retirement from Congress on Tuesday afternoon. He is currently serving his eighth term in the House.

I guess they are saving the fact that he’s evil as hell and never met a puppy he didn’t kick for his obituary.

It’s a strong GOP district, but I am told that the Democrats have a good candidate in Dan Wood. Miracles can happen, my friends, and nobody knows what the hell it’s gonna be like in a year.

I am just tickled pink to get rid of Jeb.

juanitajean.com

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JordanRules  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:45:18pm

Oh I hadn’t seen this throwback pic yet. Wonder what they were discussing.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:45:25pm

re: #96 Chrysicat

Matthew 5:17-18
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Christians love to say that the Old Testament only applied to the Jews and not themselves (while promoting the Ten Commandments, despising the LGBT, &c).

Their cherry picking makes for lousy pie.

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whitebeach  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:47:48pm

re: #107 austin_blue

I once humbly suggested that another Lizard “go lick a dog’s ass until it bleeds”.

NTTAWWT.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:48:59pm

New in Pages:
Lubbock Best-Prepared City in Country to Survive Zombie Attack, New Realtor Ranking Claims

I believe this is Russian propaganda, since Lubbock has long since been completely taken over by zombies.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:49:03pm

re: #80 Belafon

My 12 year old scary son from above also wrote a Halloween song I used in the audio I had playing. I thought you might be interested. He used Finale PrintMusic.

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Talented family Belafon.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:50:48pm

Juanita Jean notes the top front page article in her local newspaper: Trump: Podesta Resignation Biggest Story

Keeping ‘em Dumb (with photo of newspaper)

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whitebeach  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:54:04pm

re: #106 Joe Bacon 🌹

Joe, any more detail on your ancestor? I don’t find Peter Bacon in Warner’s “Generals in Blue,” which is pretty comprehensive but also fifty years old and certainly subject to update.

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Kragar  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:58:03pm
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JordanRules  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:58:13pm

Artist Transforms Abandoned Buildings In New Orleans With Powerful Art
huffingtonpost.com

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electrotek  Oct 31, 2017 • 9:58:16pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 31, 2017 • 10:00:04pm

re: #106 Joe Bacon 🌹

I had to smack SMOTI’s pal down again!

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Lee frequently threw his soldiers into hopeless bloody attacks, of which Pickett’s Charge is only the most famous example, bleeding the Confederacy dry of its limited manpower. If you check the 1860 census, the 11 states that would make up the Confederacy only had a little over one million white men between the ages of 15-40. Not only did the free Union states have about four times that number, the Union could also augment its total with European immigrants, and eventually arming African-Americans from both the North and the South.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 31, 2017 • 10:02:33pm

It’s officially 12:01 on November 1. That means the War on Christmas starts now, right?

//

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Stanley Sea  Oct 31, 2017 • 10:03:04pm

re: #119 JordanRules

Artist Transforms Abandoned Buildings In New Orleans With Powerful Art
huffingtonpost.com

I got my tee shirt today, in time for my trip back south.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 31, 2017 • 10:05:42pm

fucking wingnuts are already coming up with crazy, tortured defenses for the middle class tax increase the gop seems to be writing into its tax “reform” ripoff:

The SALT deduction (State Sales tax) elimination is a good thing.
It pushes voters in a state to demand their state stop or even lower their local sales taxes.
I agree that the Federal Government should NOT reimburse States that practice abusive tax increases on their constitutents.

For the past 20 years, California gradually increased taxes telling the constituents that is for infrastructure renovations.

Well, nothing happened, a road patch here and there, but in an earthquake, the bridges will be destroyed, because there was no retrofitting.

What is California doing with more money robbed from taxpayers? Funds the illegal aliens and their children, even PAYS legal assistance for them.

It is a scandal! So yes, I agree that the Federal Government stop financing abusive regimes like California Government.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 31, 2017 • 10:05:53pm

re: #122 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s officially 12:01 on November 1. That means the War on Christmas starts now, right?

//

The War on Christmas never ends!

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JordanRules  Oct 31, 2017 • 10:06:04pm

re: #123 Stanley Sea

Oh yay! Love it!

All they got is ugly red hats.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 31, 2017 • 10:08:12pm

re: #122 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s officially 12:01 on November 1. That means the War on Christmas starts now, right?

//

We’re slightly behind the times here in Mythical Time Zone. (We’re still getting trick or treaters at my house.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 31, 2017 • 10:09:20pm

Rick Perry Signing his Merry Christmas bill in June:

Gov. Perry Signs “Merry Christmas” Bill into Law

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 31, 2017 • 10:14:57pm

re: #117 whitebeach

Joe, any more detail on your ancestor? I don’t find Peter Bacon in Warner’s “Generals in Blue,” which is pretty comprehensive but also fifty years old and certainly subject to update.

Find A Grave shows his tombstone in the Congressional Cemetery and a picture of him

findagrave.com

Further information here. He served in various facets of DC Goverment:

Census records

ronulrich.com

He was the Union General in charge of the defense of DC. Here’s one of his military orders

loc.gov

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HappyWarrior  Oct 31, 2017 • 10:16:50pm

re: #45 Kragar

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Try it, you out of touch elitist dipshit.re: #129 Joe Bacon 🌹

Find A Grave shows his tombstone in the Congressional Cemetery and a picture of him

findagrave.com

Further information here. He served in various facets of DC Goverment:

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Census records

ronulrich.com

He was the Union General in charge of the defense of DC. Here’s one of his military orders

loc.gov

Pretty damn cool.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 31, 2017 • 10:26:37pm

re: #129 Joe Bacon 🌹

The Find a Grave site lists my father, but no one else in my family. Perhaps my great-grandparents and grandparents are still alive?

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austin_blue  Oct 31, 2017 • 10:28:50pm

re: #113 whitebeach

NTTAWWT.

When I first started posting, there was still a fairly large Israeli contingent who favored ethnic cleansing of the occupied territories under the rubric of “Transfer”. This was during Charles’ so called “purge” of right wing radicals. I think I posted that to Ben Hur.

In any case, things were chaotic during that time. Charles was calling Bullshit on the climate deniers and the right-wing radical bigots in the US and Europe and their enablers on this board. Their attacks on him for modifying his position on what was appropriate for posting on LGF was just brutal. Some of those people I miss, like Occasional Reader, Reine de Tout (although I hear she has gone full Drumpfenstien), and Ed, who had gotten drunk in pretty much every town in Texas and was a whiz with the weather. Others I surely don’t, like Mandy Manners, one of the Originals, who just became toxic, and Tax Free Killer, who was just as cray-cray as any Freeper.

Things change, often for the better. Night all, sweet scaly dreams. Rain continues to drip outside, but I have a metal roof and the white noise is soothing for a South Austin rest.

Mueller has a plan, and it appears part of it is to drive Drumpf insane, not that he has far to go. Can’t wait for tomorrow’s tweet storm and the next indictment (Hello, Carter Page! You went to meet the Russians! In Russia! Come on down!).

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 31, 2017 • 10:40:03pm

re: #132 austin_blue

I was not here during that time, but have looked at a couple of the articles from back then. Some of those commentators were way out there. Had I run across LGF then, I never would have given this place another look.

(Someone here once pointed me to a creationism debate here that I no longer remember how to find, that had thousands of comments.)

I guess Dark Falcon would be one of the very last of those to go.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 31, 2017 • 10:42:09pm

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹

The Find a Grave site lists my father, but no one else in my family. Perhaps my great-grandparents and grandparents are still alive?

FaG relies on volunteers. I have my second great grands linked with my great grands but not my grands as my father’s parents gave their bodies to medical science.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 31, 2017 • 10:43:08pm

re: #132 austin_blue

When I first started posting, there was still a fairly large Israeli contingent who favored ethnic cleansing of the occupied territories under the rubric of “Transfer”. This was during Charles’ so called “purge” of right wing radicals. I think I posted that to Ben Hur.

In any case, things were chaotic during that time. Charles was calling Bullshit on the climate deniers and the right-wing radical bigots in the US and Europe and their enablers on this board. Their attacks on him for modifying his position on what was appropriate for posting on LGF was just brutal. Some of those people I miss, like Occasional Reader, Reine de Tout (although I hear she has gone full Drumpfenstien), and Ed, who had gotten drunk in pretty much every town in Texas and was a whiz with the weather. Others I surely don’t, like Mandy Manners, one of the Originals, who just became toxic, and Tax Free Killer, who was just as cray-cray as any Freeper.

Things change, often for the better. Night all, sweet scaly dreams. Rain continues to drip outside, but I have a metal roof and the white noise is soothing for a South Austin rest.

Mueller has a plan, and it appears part of it is to drive Drumpf insane, not that he has far to go. Can’t wait for tomorrow’s tweet storm and the next indictment (Hello, Carter Page! You went to meet the Russians! In Russia! Come on down!).

I’d think Flynn, Page, & Corey are good possibilities for the next round.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 31, 2017 • 10:44:57pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

I’d think Flynn, Page, & Corey are good possibilities for the next round.

Uday and Qusay.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 31, 2017 • 10:49:37pm

re: #136 Anymouse 🌹

Uday and Qusay.

I wouldn’t complain about that. We will see though. I’m just relived Mueller is taking this seriously.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 31, 2017 • 10:59:53pm

For Dr Lizardo (and others)

The Czech company keeping vinyl records alive

bbc.com

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Targetpractice  Oct 31, 2017 • 11:06:10pm

I would not be surprised if Mueller lets the indictments drip out, bit by bit, just to see where things go. It’s fairly obvious that the White House had no defense prepared for the revelation that Papadopoulos had turned coat. No telling who else has made a deal, a thought that is probably causing a lot of cold sweats at 1600 Penn Ave.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 31, 2017 • 11:19:05pm

Best costume?

Costume Works.com

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 31, 2017 • 11:24:26pm

I guess an armed school is not a polite school after all.

Gun Found at School, Lubbock ISD Student Arrested

LUBBOCK, TX - Lubbock ISD said a student at Coronado High School was arrested Monday after an unloaded gun was found in his backpack.

Parents were notified on Tuesday, LISD said. No threats were made with the gun according to LISD.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2017 • 12:00:29am

1AM. Porch light going out. The Chocolate Is Mine!!!!

By the way, that thread the other day where the print suddenly went microscopic for everyone wasn’t my fault (though it occurred on all comments after the last I made that evening).

I almost never use formatting command here, and I didn’t with that comment. Immediately after I posted it I closed my browser while logged in … maybe that did it?

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 1, 2017 • 12:16:56am

re: #138 wheat-dogg

For Dr Lizardo (and others)

The Czech company keeping vinyl records alive

bbc.com

Thanks for that. Nice to see a small(ish) Czech company making the international news. Very cool.

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Kragar  Nov 1, 2017 • 12:22:23am

Just a volunteer who grabbed coffee a few times…

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 1, 2017 • 12:25:17am

re: #144 Kragar

I’m pretty sure everyone in the White House is going a bit crazy right about now, trying to figure who’s going down next. Trying to recall what they said to who, or what they e-mailed to someone.

Heh. Good.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 1, 2017 • 12:31:35am

a man, a fort, a canal - watergate!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 1, 2017 • 12:33:28am

re: #144 Kragar

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Just a volunteer who grabbed coffee a few times…

it doesn’t matter if he was the pizza delivery boy - if he can testify as to what was really happening, his testimony is as good as anybody’s

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2017 • 12:36:39am

re: #145 Dr Lizardo

I’m pretty sure everyone in the White House is going a bit crazy right about now, trying to figure who’s going down next. Trying to recall what they said to who, or what they e-mailed to someone.

Heh. Good.

butthurt level : massive

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Kragar  Nov 1, 2017 • 12:45:37am

Warhammer Time

Ciaphas Cain

Ciaphas Cain was an Imperial Guard Commissar. He was in active service during the last century of the 41st Millennium, and was over 200 Terran years old when he was recalled into service during the 13th Black Crusade of Abaddon the Despoiler. It is certain that he survived more than a quarter of a century into the 42nd Millennium. Imperial propaganda made him out to be a great hero of the Imperium of Man in the late 41st Millennium, although in truth he was primarily focused on his own survival during his long career. However, Cain differed from many other Imperial Commissars in that he would not readily sacrifice his soldiers unless it ensured his own survival. Cain tried his utmost to avoid engaging in actual combat, but usually was required to do so to maintain his status as a Hero of the Imperium, which ironically would involve him in more dangerous situations than any he would usually have seen as a simple Commissar. He was responsible for many successful campaigns throughout his career and retired to become an instructor for new Imperial Commissars at a Schola Progenium.

Take Bruce Campbell, throw in some Blackadder, complete with trusty sidekick, and you’ve got Ciaphas Cain.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2017 • 12:56:44am

re: #76 Kragar

What kind of further “compromise” should President Lincoln have offered states that wanted to continue owning, raping, slaughtering slaves?

and insisted that Free States return escaped slaves and wanted to expand these practices into the Territories…

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Alyosha  Nov 1, 2017 • 12:58:18am

re: #149 Kragar

Reminds me a little of Fabius.
en.m.wikipedia.org

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2017 • 1:07:53am

re: #106 Joe Bacon 🌹

Anyone with even a remote sense of military history knows what a brilliant general Lee was

Erwin Rommel was a brilliant general. Nobody is about to erect a statue to him or display a Nazi flag in his honor…

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 1, 2017 • 1:10:15am

re: #152 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Erwin Rommel was a brilliant general. Nobody is about to erect a statue to him or display a Nazi flag in his honor…

Yep……..last time I was in Berlin, I didn’t see any statues honoring Rommel, or Heinz Guderian for that matter.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2017 • 1:10:50am

re: #121 Big Beautiful Door

Lee frequently threw his soldiers into hopeless bloody attacks, of which Pickett’s Charge is only the most famous example, bleeding the Confederacy dry of its limited manpower. If you check the 1860 census, the 11 states that would make up the Confederacy only had a little over one million white men between the ages of 15-40. Not only did the free Union states have about four times that number, the Union could also augment its total with European immigrants, and eventually arming African-Americans from both the North and the South.

He came within a hair’s breadth of defeating the Union army in the Seven Days’s campaign, but never had that chance again.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2017 • 1:13:57am

re: #153 Dr Lizardo

Yep……..last time I was in Berlin, I didn’t see any statues honoring Rommel, or Heinz Guderian for that matter.

There was a blowup a while back over naming Bundeswehr barracks and installations after former Nazi-era generals.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 1, 2017 • 1:14:59am

re: #1 JordanRules

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Naw. Trump is alright with them as long as they get their precious tax cut.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Nov 1, 2017 • 2:12:33am

re: #151 Alyosha

Reminds me a little of Fabius.
en.m.wikipedia.org

Reminds me a LOT of Harry Flashman.

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Chrysicat  Nov 1, 2017 • 2:14:10am

re: #152 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And IIRC, he really was a victim-of-circumstance who didn’t hold with the party controlling his country but respected ‘civilian control of the military’. Wasn’t he one of the Valkyrie conspirators, which would make him a lot more statue-worthy than R.E. Lee?

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Kragar  Nov 1, 2017 • 2:22:07am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2017 • 2:24:33am

re: #158 Chrysicat

And IIRC, he really was a victim-of-circumstance who didn’t hold with the party controlling his country but respected ‘civilian control of the military’. Wasn’t he one of the Valkyrie conspirators, which would make him a lot more statue-worthy than R.E. Lee?

No, but Rommel was sympathetic to the movement and seen by the conspirators as a figure that the public could rally around, also because was not one of the aristocratic military elite who were behind the Valkyrie plot. In fact, he owed much of his career and fame to Hitler’s patronage.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2017 • 2:26:51am

re: #156 Patricia Kayden

Naw. Trump is alright with them as long as they get their precious tax cut.

With the swirl of controversy surrounding the White House and threatening to engulf others, they might be too busy putting out fires to worry about tax cuts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2017 • 2:29:50am

So is there any indication that the NYC attacker was involved with any larger conspiracy or simply identified with IS and acted on his own?

That is a major consideration when distinguishing between a terrorist and a “mentally disturbed person” or “lone wolf”.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 1, 2017 • 3:16:30am

I missed this yesterday on the day, but still too good to pass up:

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2017 • 3:19:29am

re: #162 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So is there any indication that the NYC attacker was involved with any larger conspiracy or simply identified with IS and acted on his own?

That is a major consideration when distinguishing between a terrorist and a “mentally disturbed person” or “lone wolf”.

The police and FBI are still looking into that.

That said, so-called Islamic State has been encouraging people to conduct acts on their own. That’s not original to Daesh: There have been plenty of groups in the past that have used that particular strategy (this is our overarching philosophy, we sanction individuals or small groups to commit actions in our name).

Daesh is big on claiming acts that they didn’t inspire though (primarily for self-promotion and spreading fear).

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2017 • 3:23:58am

re: #162 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So is there any indication that the NYC attacker was involved with any larger conspiracy or simply identified with IS and acted on his own?

That is a major consideration when distinguishing between a terrorist and a “mentally disturbed person” or “lone wolf”.

Not really, since a mentally disturbed person and a lone wolf can be terrorists.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2017 • 3:26:34am

re: #165 Nyet

Not really, since a mentally disturbed person and a lone wolf can be terrorists.

Of course. I was addressing this in terms of modern American media discourse. When attackers are white, the RW press insists are “lone wolves” and that RW ideology played little or no role in their actions, but if they are brown and Islamic, then the entire religion is to blame.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2017 • 3:27:33am

re: #167 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Of course. I was addressing this in terms of modern American media discourse.

I missed that in your comment.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2017 • 3:34:34am

re: #168 Nyet

I missed that in your comment.

Because it was not there…

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wheat-dogg  Nov 1, 2017 • 3:56:19am

That U of Utah shooter killed a visiting Chinese student.

shanghaiist.com

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 1, 2017 • 4:04:11am

re: #170 wheat-dogg

That U of Utah shooter killed a visiting Chinese student.

shanghaiist.com

Oh geez. There was a visiting Chinese student killed in Urbana, IL earlier this year, too. That’s terrible.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 1, 2017 • 4:05:28am

re: #152 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Erwin Rommel was a brilliant general. Nobody is about to erect a statue to him or display a Nazi flag in his honor…

What a waste of military genius….. I can’t remember but was Rommel involved at all with the plot to kill Hitler?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 1, 2017 • 4:09:43am

re: #172 Dave In Austin

What a waste of military genius….. I can’t remember but was Rommel involved at all with the plot to kill Hitler?

He was just a coffee boy.

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(Bert the Turtle)  Nov 1, 2017 • 4:10:49am

re: #140 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Oh, man.. if I would’ve come across that the candy would have rained! Awesome.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2017 • 4:24:31am

re: #173 Decatur Deb

He was just a coffee boy.

He was sympathetic to the cause but not actively involved, and the plotters thought that he might serve as a popular figure to rally around had the plot succeeded.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 1, 2017 • 4:29:17am

re: #175 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He was sympathetic to the cause but not actively involved, and the plotters thought that he might serve as a popular figure to rally around had the plot succeeded.

Enough that, per mainstream accounts, he earned a forced suicide.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2017 • 4:33:51am

re: #176 Decatur Deb

Enough that, per mainstream accounts, he earned a forced suicide.

He was tainted, yes.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 1, 2017 • 4:38:46am

It’s awake and pooping….

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wheat-dogg  Nov 1, 2017 • 4:43:10am

re: #171 Barefoot Grin

Oh geez. There was a visiting Chinese student killed in Urbana, IL earlier this year, too. That’s terrible.

Her body has yet to be found, though they have a suspect in custody.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 1, 2017 • 4:43:25am
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 1, 2017 • 4:45:52am

re: #179 wheat-dogg

Her body has yet to be found, though they have a suspect in custody.

Thanks, I had lost track of the case. I know he was at a gathering for her with his wife on campus when she first went missing. I can’t believe that they haven’t gotten him to tell.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 1, 2017 • 4:47:19am

re: #180 Dave In Austin

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We knew he would jump on the first terror event (excluding white supremacists) to start with the xenophobia and bigotry.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2017 • 5:01:16am

Curious to find out if DT has had any business dealings with Uzbekistan…

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2017 • 5:05:09am

re: #183 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Curious to find out if DT has had any business dealings with Uzbekistan…

Dunno about DT, but the US used to outsource torture to Uzbekistan. Good business.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 1, 2017 • 5:07:53am

re: #181 Barefoot Grin

Thanks, I had lost track of the case. I know he was at a gathering for her with his wife on campus when she first went missing. I can’t believe that they haven’t gotten him to tell.

I’m not sure he’s married, but he was spotted at the vigil. His story has changed several times, so he’s either being very evasive or he’s mentally impaired somehow. It’s very disturbing that someone could go missing so completely.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 1, 2017 • 5:08:09am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 1, 2017 • 5:12:01am

re: #186 Dave In Austin

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I bet Tony is just another one of Trump’s “Boys In The Hood”…AND Bedsheets!

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2017 • 5:13:11am

re: #187 Joe Bacon 🌹

No, but he’s a bit of an oddball.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 1, 2017 • 5:13:58am
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Ace Rothstein  Nov 1, 2017 • 5:14:27am

This what my brother went as for Halloween.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 1, 2017 • 5:22:42am

Ugh…..

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Dave In Austin  Nov 1, 2017 • 5:24:48am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2017 • 5:33:22am

re: #192 Dave In Austin

On one hand, Lee was simply upholding the law of the Confederacy, but those were laws he chose to uphold and defend.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2017 • 5:50:23am

re: #178 Dave In Austin

The terrorist came into our country through what is called the “Diversity Visa Lottery Program,” a Chuck Schumer beauty. I want merit based.

— Donald J. Trump

How did the Las Vegas shooter get in?

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Dave In Austin  Nov 1, 2017 • 5:50:57am
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Decatur Deb  Nov 1, 2017 • 5:54:31am

re: #177 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He was tainted, yes.

Tainted? Rect’um.

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2017 • 5:55:00am
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jeffreyw  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:01:57am

Imgur


Good morning!

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:02:50am

JFC on a barbed wire tightrope

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:03:33am

Wonder? WONDER?

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:05:57am

HA!

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:07:27am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. It looks like yesterday’s vehicle rampage was an act of terrorism, so we know Trump jumped all over it because the driver appears to be Muslim.

When a white supremacist driver rampaged through a crowd in Charlottesville because they were protesting Nazis and white supremacists and KKK defending statues to insurrectionists and traitors, Trump couldn’t bother to mention the word terrorism.

When a shooter killed 59 and injured nearly 600 people, Trump couldn’t muster the energy to propose changes to gun laws even weeks later, mostly because the shooter was a white guy.

But because the driver in NYC was Muslim, Trump thinks we should do more extreme vetting? His bans wouldn’t have stopped any terrorist attacks in the US - none of the countries of origin for the recent terrorists are on the lists he’s proposed. A Muslim ban wouldn’t have stopped the Vegas slaughter or other mass shootings.

The Muslim ban plays well with the addled know nothing xenophobic GOP base though, so that’s his go to action.

The courts see through this though, because they keep striking down his Muslim ban EOs.

Meanwhile, the GOP is all about tax reform, except they don’t have a bill, they can’t figure out what they’re actually doing besides trying to maximize the tax cuts for millionaires and shifting the burdens to everyone else. The GOP is so clueless that they’re delaying the rollout of the tax plan because they couldn’t get it off of the back of a napkin.

If this sounds familiar, it’s because it should. After claiming that the GOP had a better way on taxes and health care, when they’re presented with the opportunity to show their work, they could muster only the barest of outlines that omit key information.

In other words, this is Trumpcare redux - it’s vaporware and malware as applied to tax reform. The GOP doesn’t have a plan and no strategy, but they’re going to go ahead with screwing up the federal budget because that’s the only thing they know how to do.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:11:27am

I’ve been following Yusra Mardini since the 2016 Olympics, when she swam for the Refugee Team. Now she’s an Under Armour representative, and has made many appearances all over the world to represent refugees.

Instagram

What a great event , I’m so happy to share this video as a new member of the UA family , thanks for the help and support everyone. #IWILL @underarmour @underarmourdach

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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:11:47am

Geez, even the covfefe boy lies about shit in this administration.

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:14:15am
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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:18:06am

re: #204 makeitstop

Everyone in this admin lied on their resumes and got to where they were because of white male privilege.

Consider that Gorka was initially given an important role, despite not being an actual credentialed PhD; he lied about that - and yet Fox still puts him on to spew sweet xenophobic nothings to the misinformed masses.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:20:16am

re: #205 MsJ

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wheat-dogg  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:20:47am

re: #206 lawhawk

Everyone in this admin lied on their resumes and got to where they were because of white male privilege.

Consider that Gorka was initially given an important role, despite not being an actual credentialed PhD; he lied about that - and yet Fox still puts him on to spew sweet xenophobic nothings to the misinformed masses.

And the same people accuse the Obamas of using affirmative action to achieve their legitimate academic creds.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:21:11am

re: #204 makeitstop

Geez, even the covfefe boy lies about shit in this administration.

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JordanRules  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:21:57am

re: #156 Patricia Kayden

Sure, but 45 is weird and prone to paranoia so he might be a little miffed at not being there right after learning Papadapolous has been cooperating.

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:24:22am

re: #205 MsJ

The video isn’t unreal. It’s what law enforcement does all too regularly. They think they’re above the law and can act with impunity.

This is a criminal assault and a 1A violation. All those officers should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, but the system is fixed to give cops a built in advantage (and get out of indictment card). We’ve seen this for years with failures to indict on unarmed black people being shot and killed by trigger happy cops.

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:25:30am

From yesterday, ICYMI.

And with that I am off to a meeting. Cheers.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:25:38am

re: #208 wheat-dogg

And the same people accuse the Obamas of using affirmative action to achieve their legitimate academic creds.

Yep even though they are living personifications of the American Dream. Michelle’s father was a water plant employee and both her and her brother attended Princeton.

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:29:43am
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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:31:30am

Trump lies are so blatant that even Sen. Flake has to rebut them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:31:55am

re: #201 MsJ

For the record, “Allahu Akbar” has no inherent political/violent connotation meriting instant terror diagnosis.I say it like 20 times a day.

Sorry, but to too many Americans “Allahu Akbar!” is the battle cry of Terrorism…

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JordanRules  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:36:07am

re: #216 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And yet what she said is still correct.

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JordanRules  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:37:24am
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William Lewis  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:37:50am

re: #216 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sorry, but to too many Americans “Allahu Akbar!” ignorance is the battle cry of Terrorism…

FTFY

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:38:04am

re: #215 lawhawk

Can you imagine how worthless Trump is that the first thing he does when we have a terrorist attack is to look for a Democratic opponent to slander? He doesn’t even pretend to be uplifting or unifying.

Just a disgusting human being who is out of his depths.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:39:01am

re: #215 lawhawk

Actually, the Gang of 8, including @SenSchumer, did away with the Diversity Visa Program as part of broader reforms. I know, I was there
— Jeff Flake

Wait, wait, hold on. Are you suggesting that The Donald is lying his orange arse off?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:39:18am

re: #220 Patricia Kayden

Can you imagine how worthless Trump is that the first thing he does when we have a terrorist attack is to look for a Democratic opponent to slander? He doesn’t even pretend to be uplifting or unifying.

Just a disgusting human being who is out of his depths.

I’m glad 9/11 didn’t occur when he was President.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:41:14am

re: #220 Patricia Kayden

Can you imagine how worthless Trump is that the first thing he does when we have a terrorist attack is to look for a Democratic opponent to slander? He doesn’t even pretend to be uplifting or unifying.

Just a disgusting human being who is out of his depths.

But we still need to wait before passing judgment on the Las Vegas shooter, wait for the facts.
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meteor  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:41:38am

There will be a champion of baseball tonight!

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:42:40am

re: #216 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sorry, but to too many Americans “Allahu Akbar!” is the battle cry of Terrorism…

What that woman said was formally true but misleading. AA is not inherently violent, true. A murderer shouting AA while committing murder is absolutely meaningful and points to the motive (no, not establishing it 100%, meaningfulness is a matter of probability).

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:43:14am

re: #197 MsJ

Lying to the FBI is no big deal, especially in collusion cases, but Hillary should still be Locked Up Because Emails!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:45:09am

re: #226 Sir John Barron

Lying to the FBI is no big deal, especially in collusion cases, but Hillary should still be Locked Up Because Emails!

/

Lying to the FBI is a rite of passage for any young man just like colluding with a foreign power to subvert an election.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:46:00am

re: #218 JordanRules

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The Russian bots are out in full attack mode with their RepubliKKKlan KKKomrades…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:48:28am

re: #213 HappyWarrior

Yep even though they are living personifications of the American Dream. Michelle’s father was a water plant employee and both her and her brother attended Princeton.

and that is what pissed me off about a lot of conservatives. They could not bring themselves to recognize these people’s achievements, no matter how grudgingly

and when they whine about Affirmative Action, then please explain how GW Bush got into Yale and Harvard on academic merits alone…

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:52:29am

re: #227 HappyWarrior

Lying to the FBI is a rite of passage for any young rich white man just like colluding with a foreign power to subvert an election.

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:54:06am

re: #229 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and that is what pissed me off about a lot of conservatives. They could not bring themselves to recognize these people’s achievements, no matter how grudgingly

and when they whine about Affirmative Action, then please explain how GW Bush got into Yale and Harvard on academic merits alone…

He got in because no undeserving minority took his spot

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:54:37am

re: #213 HappyWarrior

Yep even though they are living personifications of the American Dream. Michelle’s father was a water plant employee and both her and her brother attended Princeton.

“The blacks should stop wearing hoodies and thugging and also Michelle and Barack shouldn’t have been successful because unfair.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 6:57:44am

re: #232 Sir John Barron

“The blacks should stop wearing hoodies and thugging and also Michelle and Barack shouldn’t have been successful because unfair.”

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Michele is “uppity.” Seriously she inspires so much disgusting hatred. Not to mention the pathetic transphobic crap too.

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:02:19am
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fern01  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:03:49am

re: #176 Decatur Deb

Enough that, per mainstream accounts, he earned a forced suicide.

He did - he was with the plotters & when Hitler found out his choice was suicide and a military funeral or have his family ruined. He chose the former.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:05:54am

Just amazing how soon after yesterday’s attack the wingnuts began yipping about how if NYC wasn’t so anti-guns the attacker would have been killed instantly, etc. Seriously. These people.

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fern01  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:10:22am

re: #202 lawhawk

And as happens every 4 or 8 years, the democrats will have to clean up the mess republicans create. The sad thing is, some of the things trump is doing will take a generation to clean up.

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:11:05am

re: #236 Sir John Barron

You mean like this tough guy?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:12:08am

I’ve always wondered why there was—is—such great attachment to General Lee as opposed to, say, Jefferson Davis.*

I’ve concluded that it partly has something to do with the glamour of war, and partly that it is a way to subtly affirm the Confederacy without appearing to actually embrace the cause of splittering the Union or supporting slavery (hence all the bogwash about how Lee was supposedly against secession and hated slavery, etc). Likewise, there’s no love for someone like Jefferson Davis whose “mere” political office was less “honorable”, politics being a dirty business, and Davis was rather unglamorously captured after fleeing Richmond.

*I mean I know there are highways and schools and counties named after him and all, but he doesn’t get all the books and titles like “honorable” and “great man”.

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:12:22am

re: #140 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Best costume?

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Costume Works.com

A couple of years ago, my wife made a tornado costume for our youngest son. It included a cow.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:13:26am

re: #238 lawhawk

You mean like this tough guy?

Here’s what I know. NYC is one of the most anti-gun cities in U.S. If this guy had been in Nashville, he wouldn’t have made it 8 blocks.

With people firing wildly at a moving target, hitting bystanders…right…

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freetoken  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:13:37am

re: #239 Sir John Barron

Uniform fetishes are, and have been for some time, quite a thing in the US.

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freetoken  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:13:56am

I suppose that is true in many places.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:14:43am

re: #238 lawhawk

You mean like this tough guy?

Yeah. Can’t believe he and others rushed out with that whorry old canard about all we needed was a “a good guy with a gun”. I mean, really. Thought that wingnut myth was about dead and buried, but no, it lives on in zombie form along with all the other lies.

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:16:26am

re: #244 Sir John Barron

And Thor ignores that it was a cop that did finally stop the guy. It would have been virtually impossible to stop the guy before he crashed at the end of his rampage.

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Citizen K  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:20:02am

re: #225 Nyet

What that woman said was formally true but misleading. AA is not inherently violent, true. A murderer shouting AA while committing murder is absolutely meaningful and points to the motive (no, not establishing it 100%, meaningfulness is a matter of probability).

The whole point is fighting back against the concept that ‘Allahu Akbar’ is, inherently , a violent and terroristic phrase, and that anyone who dare uses it (i.e. Muslims) is somehow inherently terroristic themselves. That’s the point they’re trying to get at, because as others have pointed out above, the way the phrase is treated, you’d think it translated directly to ‘Death to the West’. They don’t care about the context, they’re trying to criminalize Islam and Muslims as a whole by making some indelible attachment between that phrase and terrorism as a whole.

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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:21:32am

Seen on Facebook…

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JordanRules  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:24:12am
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Belafon  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:26:16am
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Mike Lamb  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:26:38am

re: #199 The Vicious Babushka

JFC on a barbed wire tightrope

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Did I just wake up in 2004?

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electrotek  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:27:51am

re: #216 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sorry, but to too many Americans “Allahu Akbar!” is the battle cry of Terrorism…

If only Muslims in places like Pakistan and Indonesia would charge them with blasphemy more vehemently, as opposed to those who merely criticize Islam or speak out against Salafism.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:28:01am

re: #239 Sir John Barron

I’ve always wondered why there was—is—such great attachment to General Lee as opposed to, say, Jefferson Davis.*

I’ve concluded that it partly has something to do with the glamour of war, and partly that it is a way to subtly affirm the Confederacy without appearing to actually embrace the cause of splittering the Union or supporting slavery (hence all the bogwash about how Lee was supposedly against secession and hated slavery, etc). Likewise, there’s no love for someone like Jefferson Davis whose “mere” political office was less “honorable”, politics being a dirty business, and Davis was rather unglamorously captured after fleeing Richmond.

*I mean I know there are highways and schools and counties named after him and all, but he doesn’t get all the books and titles like “honorable” and “great man”.

You answered the question. Plus Lee’s admirers and subordinates wrote the Lost Cause History. But you’re right, Davis isn’t a secular saint in the South the way Jackson and Lee are.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:28:32am

re: #249 Belafon

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Coward.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:30:19am

re: #248 JordanRules

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Proud of my great great Grandfather who was a conductor and station keeper for the Underground Railroad!

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wheat-dogg  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:30:37am

re: #252 HappyWarrior

You answered the question. Plus Lee’s admirers and subordinates wrote the Lost Cause History. But you’re right, Davis isn’t a secular saint in the South the way Jackson and Lee are.

To Neo-Confederates, Lee was the general defending the Confederacy from the Yankee invaders. Davis failed in preventing the invasion.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:31:17am

re: #254 Joe Bacon 🌹

Proud of my great great Grandfather who was a conductor and station keeper for the Underground Railroad!

You should be.

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Citizen K  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:32:29am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

Coward.

Cowardice presumes that his unwillingness to act comes out of fear. Once again, it’s not fear, it’s complicity. They know damn well that this is their chance to get their golden calves, and that they have the power to derail it if they damn well choose. It’s active, calculated complicity.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:35:36am

re: #255 wheat-dogg

To Neo-Confederates, Lee was the general defending the Confederacy from the Yankee invaders. Davis failed in preventing the invasion.

Yeah I think that’s part of it. Plus Davis is seen as a mere politician and Lee noble warrior though Davis actually had served in the military himself and been Secretary of War. I think it boils down to the fact that Lee had more admirers in the CSA and former CSA to write the history. I know this much. The Lost Causers hated General Longstreet for a few reasons: One, he criticized Lee in his memoirs for how Lee handled Gettysburg, two he became a Republican and supporter of Reconstruction and thus African-Americans having rights, and third he became a Catholic convert. General Longstreet was an as if not more talented general than Lee in many ways- they were still teaching his theories on defensive warfare at West Point well into last century. Anyhow, I’m proud to have had a second great grandfather that fought for the Union. What Kelly gets wrong is simple to me. Yes, our past leaders have had flaws but Washington, Lincoln, JFK, the Roosevelts, John Adams, and Jefferson all have one thing that separates them from Lee. They never took up arms against this country.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:35:55am

re: #257 Citizen K

Cowardice presumes that his unwillingness to act comes out of fear. Once again, it’s not fear, it’s complicity. They know damn well that this is their chance to get their golden calves, and that they have the power to derail it if they damn well choose. It’s active, calculated complicity.

Good point.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:36:32am

un fucking believable that republicans are debating which taxes to raise on the middle class

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Citizen K  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:36:34am

Awaiting Trump’s coal comeback, miners reject retraining

WAYNESBURG, Pa. (Reuters) - When Mike Sylvester entered a career training center earlier this year in southwestern Pennsylvania, he found more than one hundred federally funded courses covering everything from computer programming to nursing.

He settled instead on something familiar: a coal mining course.

“I think there is a coal comeback,” said the 33-year-old son of a miner.

Despite broad consensus about coal’s bleak future, a years-long effort to diversify the economy of this hard-hit region away from mining is stumbling, with Obama-era jobs retraining classes undersubscribed and future programs at risk under President Donald Trump’s proposed 2018 budget.

Trump has promised to revive coal by rolling back environmental regulations and moved to repeal Obama-era curbs on carbon emissions from power plants.

“I have a lot of faith in President Trump,” Sylvester said.

The delusion is strong, and damaging.

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JordanRules  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:37:42am
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wheat-dogg  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:39:58am

re: #262 Citizen K

My aunt hailed from that part of Pennsylvania, and it was a depressing (and economically depressed) place even in the late 1970s when I visited there. That was 40 years ago, and coal sure ain’t coming back to SW PA now. That poor guy is pissing in the wind if he thinks otherwise.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:41:02am

re: #246 Citizen K

The whole point is fighting back against the concept that ‘Allahu Akbar’ is, inherently , a violent and terroristic phrase, and that anyone who dare uses it (i.e. Muslims) is somehow inherently terroristic themselves. That’s the point they’re trying to get at, because as others have pointed out above, the way the phrase is treated, you’d think it translated directly to ‘Death to the West’. They don’t care about the context, they’re trying to criminalize Islam and Muslims as a whole by making some indelible attachment between that phrase and terrorism as a whole.

Sure, formally the message could be read as “we normal Muslims say AA millions of times during our lives, doesn’t mean *we* are terrorists”. But due to ambiguity in the way it was written it could also read “just because this guy shouted AA doesn’t mean *he* is a terrorist”. Her subsequent comment goes rather in the latter direction:

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:41:58am

re: #262 Citizen K

Awaiting Trump’s coal comeback, miners reject retraining

The delusion is strong, and damaging.

I for the life of me don’t get these guys. You see, my grandfather was the son of a miner. Grandpa when he dropped out of high school tried the mines out like his Dad had. He hated it. When he got home from the Army in 1952-53, he went to trade school to learn how to become a bricklayer. As far as I know, none of his brothers finished their careers as coal miners and for Grandpa, it was a good decision, he lived to be 79 years old and all his grandchildren be born. And my grandmother also was the child of a coal miner. She’s still with us. She doesn’t get the nostagia for the mines. She remembers her Dad who died at the age of 63, a few years younger than my Dad is now in fact having a difficult time walking at the time. The tragedy of it is, Great Grandpa was very healthy towards the end other than his lungs. I have no doubt had he worked some place other than a coal mine, he would have like his brother and father lived a long and healthy life. I probably would have never met him still since he would have been 100 years old the I was born but he would have definitely gotten to know my mom and her brother.

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JordanRules  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:42:08am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:42:40am

re: #263 JordanRules

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Weigel is correct. And Clinton had a message too. That so many far left and far right didn’t want to hear because they hated her so much.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:42:55am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:43:06am

re: #267 JordanRules

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:45:26am

re: #264 wheat-dogg

My aunt hailed from that part of Pennsylvania, and it was a depressing (and economically depressed) place even in the late 1970s when I visited there. That was 40 years ago, and coal sure ain’t coming back to SW PA now. That poor guy is pissing in the wind if he thinks otherwise.

Yeah I remember going to Johnstown when I was a kid. Went back for the first time in years. The mines reopening isn’t going to happen. The economy there needs to adapt. Economies adapt. That’s how they survive. Pittsburgh itself has actually revitalized itself as a thriving medical center in recent years. And honestly it’s a much more healthy place to live than the city of my dad’s parents youth. So, yes, thank you environmental regulation, thank you renewable energy.

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Citizen K  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:46:27am

re: #265 Nyet

Sure, formally the message could be read as “we normal Muslims say AA millions of times during our lives, doesn’t mean *we* are terrorists”. But due to ambiguity in the way it was written it could also read “just because this guy shouted AA doesn’t mean *he* is a terrorist”. Her subsequent comment goes rather in the latter direction:

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She makes the worthwhile point though that using that phrase as a prime indicator of not only terrorism but wider, interconnected terrorism, is a fucking terrible metric. And yet that’s precisely what people do instantly when they hear the phrase regardless, even in otherwise innocuous situations.

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JordanRules  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:47:08am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:47:38am

re: #273 JordanRules

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I thankfully didn’t see that.

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Citizen K  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:48:08am

re: #271 HappyWarrior

Yeah I remember going to Johnstown when I was a kid. Went back for the first time in years. The mines reopening isn’t going to happen. The economy there needs to adapt. Economies adapt. That’s how they survive. Pittsburgh itself has actually revitalized itself as a thriving medical center in recent years. And honestly it’s a much more healthy place to live than the city of my dad’s parents youth. So, yes, thank you environmental regulation, thank you renewable energy.

It’s just kind of amazing honestly. Growing up in Southern WV, I’ve seen the state that unrestrained mining has kind of not only disrupted the landscape but left people in a lurch, as well as the folk heroism of miner protests, that this mythologizing and nostalgia for coal persists.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:48:37am

re: #259 HappyWarrior

It’s disturbing how this revisionism about the Civil War — or the War of Northern Aggression, as some would call it — has percolated into the daily news cycle. It’s not just the white supremacists marching by the half-dozens in the streets, it’s members of the administration trying to revise history. They’re condoning the bullshit insurrectionism that strengthened during Obama’s terms — that somehow the federal government is a force for evil and therefore it’s permissible to take up arms against it. I doubt Kelly has thought that deeply about what his defense of Lee suggests to would-be seditionists. I would hope that he, as a member of the armed forces, would not willingly encourage insurrection against the government, but with this administration nothing would surprise me.

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plansbandc  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:50:26am

re: #61 Joe Bacon 🌹

Romper Room!! Now that’s a blast from the past!

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:50:47am

re: #272 Citizen K

True. However that also sort of obscures a no less important point: due to him shouting AA the assumption that he is a terrorist - i.e. not simply a mass murderer but an ideologically driven one - becomes the most probable of the listed possibilities. Sure, in the end any of those possibilities could turn out to be true. They’re not equal, however.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:51:45am
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wheat-dogg  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:53:18am

re: #275 Citizen K

It’s just kind of amazing honestly. Growing up in Southern WV, I’ve seen the state that unrestrained mining has kind of not only disrupted the landscape but left people in a lurch, as well as the folk heroism of miner protests, that this mythologizing and nostalgia for coal persists.

Ditto eastern KY. Sensible folks know strip mining is bad on several different levels, and that strip mines employ relatively few people, given how mechanized it all is. The days of hundreds of men going bodily into the mines each day is a part of history that will not return.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:53:22am

re: #275 Citizen K

It’s just kind of amazing honestly. Growing up in Southern WV, I’ve seen the state that unrestrained mining has kind of not only disrupted the landscape but left people in a lurch, as well as the folk heroism of miner protests, that this mythologizing and nostalgia for coal persists.

When I think about my mom’s grandfathers, immigrants from Eastern Europe, I think about how they did what they did so their descendants i.e. my grandparents, mom and uncle, me and my brothers, and now my niece wouldn’t have to do that kind of work. As I said, my grandfather ended up becoming a brick mason. He left Johnstown in the mid 50’s before my Uncle was born. Mom and my Uncle ended up becoming the first people in their families to attend college. My brother is about to receive his BA and I have my BA. Brother wants to get his MA. And our youngest brother could be headed for UVA if he keeps on doing well in high school. That’s the American dream. I think they’d be horrified at people still wanting to work in the mines even though there are better alternatives. It frustrates me that people like the Mr. Sylvester interviewed in the article are REJECTING retraining.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:53:45am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:53:50am

re: #279 Nyet

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As both a fan of RBG and Guinness, I approve.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:54:42am

re: #282 Nyet

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That’s the thing isn’t it? The American Civil War caused more deaths than any other of our wars. It amazes me that those who want to wave around the patriotism banner would venerate Lee and the CSA or attempt to defend their cause.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:55:13am

re: #279 Nyet

But why are there two empty non-Guinness bottles in her six-pack?

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Citizen K  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:56:31am

re: #278 Nyet

True. However that also sort of obscures a no less important point: due to him shouting AA the assumption that he is a terrorist - i.e. not simply a mass murderer but an ideologically driven one - becomes the most probable of the listed possibilities. Sure, in the end any of those possibilities could turn out to be true. They’re not equal, however.

The point being that we shouldn’t be the ones making that call. That’s for the authorities that have to investigate and connect the dots themselves.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:57:24am

re: #285 wheat-dogg

But why are there two empty non-Guinness bottles in her six-pack?

Diversity…

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:57:56am

re: #286 Citizen K

The point being that we shouldn’t be the ones making that call.

Absolutely, if you’re talking about a 100% call.

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Citizen K  Nov 1, 2017 • 7:58:19am

re: #281 HappyWarrior

When I think about my mom’s grandfathers, immigrants from Eastern Europe, I think about how they did what they did so their descendants i.e. my grandparents, mom and uncle, me and my brothers, and now my niece wouldn’t have to do that kind of work. As I said, my grandfather ended up becoming a brick mason. He left Johnstown in the mid 50’s before my Uncle was born. Mom and my Uncle ended up becoming the first people in their families to attend college. My brother is about to receive his BA and I have my BA. Brother wants to get his MA. And our youngest brother could be headed for UVA if he keeps on doing well in high school. That’s the American dream. I think they’d be horrified at people still wanting to work in the mines even though there are better alternatives. It frustrates me that people like the Mr. Sylvester interviewed in the article are REJECTING retraining.

The nostalgia for coal is becoming as much a tribal thing as anything else politicized these days. They don’t pine for the reality of working in coal mining, they pine for the mythologized symbolism of what being a ‘coal miner’ is

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wheat-dogg  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:00:51am

re: #281 HappyWarrior

When I think about my mom’s grandfathers, immigrants from Eastern Europe, I think about how they did what they did so their descendants i.e. my grandparents, mom and uncle, me and my brothers, and now my niece wouldn’t have to do that kind of work. As I said, my grandfather ended up becoming a brick mason. He left Johnstown in the mid 50’s before my Uncle was born. Mom and my Uncle ended up becoming the first people in their families to attend college. My brother is about to receive his BA and I have my BA. Brother wants to get his MA. And our youngest brother could be headed for UVA if he keeps on doing well in high school. That’s the American dream. I think they’d be horrified at people still wanting to work in the mines even though there are better alternatives. It frustrates me that people like the Mr. Sylvester interviewed in the article are REJECTING retraining.

I hear ya. Three of my grandparents were peasants and tradesmen from Sweden. They came to the USA to enable their kids to escape that kind of life if they wanted to. And they did. Their grandchildren and great-grandchildren are all white-collar workers.

I can’t fathom why any family would want their kids to stay in the mines, or why any miner’s kid would want to be a miner. It’s definitely Old World mentality.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:00:54am

re: #289 Citizen K

The nostalgia for coal is becoming as much a tribal thing as anything else politicized these days. They don’t pine for the reality of working in coal mining, they pine for the mythologized symbolism of what being a ‘coal miner’ is

Yep and then you have those who actually lived it like my grandmother who remembers her father being unable to walk towards the end of his life. But yeah, it’s this macho bullshit where being a miner or steelworker is more “manly” than working in an office or something like that. Ya know, my one great grandfather was a pretty smart guy, spoke a few different languages other than his native Rusyn and the English he adapted here, who knows what he could have done in a post-industrial economy.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:01:27am

re: #287 b.d. (bill d.)

Diversity…

Light beer?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:03:26am

re: #290 wheat-dogg

I hear ya. Three of my grandparents were peasants and tradesmen from Sweden. They came to the USA to enable their kids to escape that kind of life if they wanted to. And they did. Their grandchildren and great-grandchildren are all white-collar workers.

I can’t fathom why any family would want their kids to stay in the mines, or why any miner’s kid would want to be a miner. It’s definitely Old World mentality.

Yeah I just don’t get it. I mean. Am I proud of how hard my great grandfathers worked? Absolutely but I’d be just as proud of them no matter what. They shaped my grandparents and by shaping my grandparents, they shaped my parents and thus me.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:03:48am

Who among us would not happily give up our health insurance so that the hyper-wealthy can enjoy another tax cut?

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wheat-dogg  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:04:05am

Time to call it a night here. Later, all.

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JordanRules  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:04:58am

re: #286 Citizen K

Investigations are really important and instant public designations of crimes seem unhelpful. I wonder how accurate ear witness accounts are.

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electrotek  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:06:19am

Retirement experts, please chime in. I have a hard time understanding if I’m on the right path or not.

Here’s some info:

- I’ll be 33 in a couple of weeks.
- Started contributing to my 401(k) account in July 2014, at 29.
- $150 a month deducted from my bank account until January 2016
- Increased to $200 for the calendar year
- Currently deducting $250 a month from my paycheck for 2017
- Company matches 6% of my contribution

Currently, my stats are as follows:

Daily Balance: $16,232.20
Rate of Return: 21.47%

How am I looking currently? Do I still have some catch-up to do as a result of my late start? If it helps, I am looking to increase my contribution to $350 for the next calendar year and continue to do so.

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:09:51am

re: #294 The Vicious Babushka

Who among us would not happily give up our health insurance so that the hyper-wealthy can enjoy another tax cut?

Wouldn’t it be great to Repeal the very unfair and unpopular Individual Mandate in ObamaCare and use those savings for further Tax Cuts…..

we’re not only going to take your guy’s nine apples and give them to that guy, we’re going to sell your 9 umbrellas and buy him even more apples

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plansbandc  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:10:29am

re: #222 HappyWarrior

Instant nuclear war. Dead glass planet.

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Citizen K  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:10:50am

re: #296 JordanRules

Investigations are really important and instant public designations of crimes seem unhelpful. I wonder how accurate ear witness accounts are.

Exactly. I forget whether it was Las Vegas or another attack (and it’s pathetic I have to admit that confusion) where someone swears they heard something along the lines of ‘Allahu Akbar’ and it ended up someone else shouting ‘get down’ or something similarly innocuous.

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JordanRules  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:11:55am

Good live tweeting on the continuing hearing today. It’s being broadcast on C-SPAN 3.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:12:29am

I can imagine that Ta-Nehisi, if he even saw this “challenge” would say “Go fuck yourself”

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:12:58am

re: #261 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

un fucking believable that republicans are debating which taxes to raise on the middle class

No. It’s totally fucking believable.

The GOP has no shame about what they’re doing. They’re intent on fucking over everyone but the rich so that the rich get bigger tax breaks than they already enjoy. All the burdens fall on the least able to afford/endure them.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:14:07am
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:14:45am

re: #302 The Vicious Babushka

I can imagine that Ta-Nehisi, if he even saw this “challenge” would say “Go fuck yourself”

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The ol’ “match of wits with an unarmed man” and so forth and so on…..

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:15:13am

re: #297 electrotek

Retirement experts, please chime in. I have a hard time understanding if I’m on the right path or not.

Here’s some info:

- I’ll be 33 in a couple of weeks.
- Started contributing to my 401(k) account in July 2014, at 29.
- $150 a month deducted from my bank account until January 2016
- Increased to $200 for the calendar year
- Currently deducting $250 a month from my paycheck for 2017
- Company matches 6% of my contribution

Currently, my stats are as follows:

Daily Balance: $16,232.20
Rate of Return: 21.47%

How am I looking currently? Do I still have some catch-up to do as a result of my late start? If it helps, I am looking to increase my contribution to $350 for the next calendar year and continue to do so.

cant answer your question - i can raise a few more
- when do you expect / want to retire - ie how many years are you going to contribute?
- how would you expect / want to live when you retire - that determines to an extent how much money you will need to have saved
- there’s a lot of assumptions between today and your future - changing jobs, tax laws, raises, all sorts of stuff

in general, all other things being equal, save as much as you dont think you’re going to need to live on, or need to tap in an unforeseen emergency.

and 21.47% - not a chance

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:16:52am

re: #302 The Vicious Babushka

I can imagine that Ta-Nehisi, if he even saw this “challenge” would say “Go fuck yourself”

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Considering you use what the parties were 150 years ago as your evidence Dinesh, you’d be laughed at louder than WFB was when James Baldwin schooled him at Oxford.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:17:26am
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plansbandc  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:17:28am

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:17:46am

Dinesh’s arguments suck. The Dems were racist 150 years ago ergo all Democrats are racist now. There were gay Nazis ergo it’s okay to discriminate against gays. For someone with a college education, it amazes me how stupid he is.

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:18:44am

re: #297 electrotek

Without getting into too much detail, if you’re maxing out your company match, and increase your contributions annually (figuring that you probably increase when you get your salary increase/raise), then you’ve got a good foundation.

There are retirement calculators you can use that can make sure that you’re going to hit your targets - how old do you want to be when you retire, what other retirement income you might have, how much you want to save at retirement, your cost of living, etc.

All the major brokerages have this, and many 401k systems have that kind of feature.

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:18:50am

re: #301 JordanRules

Good live tweeting on the continuing hearing today. It’s being broadcast on C-SPAN 3.

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i’m still going with Franken yesterday:

“Mr. Stretch, how did Facebook, which prides itself on being able to process billions of data points and instantly transform them into personal connections for its users, somehow not make the connection that election ads, paid for in rubles, were coming from Russia?” asked Franken. “Those are two data points: American political ads and Russian money, rubles. How could you not connect those two dots?”

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Interesting Times  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:20:51am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:21:22am

You know the thing about Coates and this is why I respect him is he’s not afraid or unwilling to point out problems the left has with race. He discussed the Sanders wing’s blindness on the issue in the “First White President” article. Dinesh would never ever criticize racism or racial insensitivity on the right.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:21:22am

Dinesh just got pwn3d

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:21:22am

re: #310 HappyWarrior

Dinesh’s arguments suck. The Dems were racist 150 years ago ergo all Democrats are racist now. There were gay Nazis ergo it’s okay to discriminate against gays. For someone with a college education, it amazes me how stupid he is.

I think he might not be that stupid, rather exploiting the rubes. Which is worse.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:22:07am

re: #316 Nyet

I think he might not be that stupid, rather exploiting the rubes. Which is worse.

True, true.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:22:14am

re: #315 The Vicious Babushka

Dinesh just got pwn3d

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Busted.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:23:58am

re: #205 MsJ

Well Trump did tell them to rough up suspects, didn’t he?

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gwangung  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:24:13am

re: #314 HappyWarrior

You know the thing about Coates and this is why I respect him is he’s not afraid or unwilling to point out problems the left has with race. He discussed the Sanders wing’s blindness on the issue in the “First White President” article. Dinesh would never ever criticize racism or racial insensitivity on the right.

Frankly, I think Dinesh got his start by lying like hell about what he saw at Stanford.

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jeffreyw  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:25:10am

re: #309 plansbandc

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Stolen and tweeted. I am unashamed.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:25:45am

re: #320 gwangung

Frankly, I think Dinesh got his start by lying like hell about what he saw at Stanford.

I’m not familiar with that. Expand if you don’t mind. He’s such a pathetic jerk IMO. Like it’s one thing to ideologically disagree with someone. He’s literally mocked Obama for having his father not in his life.

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JordanRules  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:25:53am

re: #315 The Vicious Babushka

And the irony of trying to use Coates to make himself some money and notoriety, for even more money, is a cute little dynamic.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:27:47am

It is now proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump gets his daily intel briefing from Fox & Friends

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JordanRules  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:28:40am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:28:46am

re: #324 The Vicious Babushka

It is now proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump gets his daily intel briefing from Fox & Friends

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Well we know he asked Lumpy Hannity for advise on the Iran Deal so why not get his daily briefing for Fox and Friends?

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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:31:12am

Gee, I wonder which side is against releasing them.
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:33:40am

Dinesh was racist when I saw him speak over 20 years ago — and he has not improved with age. At that time he seemed to have no awareness or perhaps it was no concern of the systemic discrimination African-Americans endured since the Civil War. He was a liar then and remains a liar today.

—Edited to clarify

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Mike Lamb  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:33:41am

re: #266 HappyWarrior

I for the life of me don’t get these guys.

Agreed. Mining is hard, shitty work. It’s dangerous (and getting more so due guys like this and their faith in Trump). So who cares if it can make a comeback? Someone is offering an alternative (on their dime) and you don’t take it? Dumb.

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No Depression  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:33:51am

Guess it’s time for the Senate to subpoena @jack and Mark Zuckerburg. I for one would love to see them testify under oath.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:34:39am

re: #329 Mike Lamb

Agreed. Mining is hard, shitty work. It’s dangerous (and getting more so due guys like this and their faith in Trump). So who cares if it can make a comeback? Someone is offering an alternative (on their dime) and you don’t take it? Dumb.

Yeah it stumps me.

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:35:22am

re: #327 makeitstop

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Gee, I wonder which side is against releasing them.
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this is bizarre

they were already posted on facebook - people saw them, right?

in essence already public, no?

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gwangung  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:36:11am

re: #322 HappyWarrior

I’m not familiar with that. Expand if you don’t mind. He’s such a pathetic jerk IMO. Like it’s one thing to ideologically disagree with someone. He’s literally mocked Obama for having his father not in his life.

It was nonsense about how multicultural student groups at Stanford were oppressing and discriminating against white students at Stanford. Since I was a member of these groups shortly before he encountered them, I thought it was nonsense. We counted some white students as part, but there was a lot of self segregation going on (granted, some by POC students, but just a lot by white students).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:37:04am

re: #332 dangerman

They want people to think there were only a few outlier ads planted by Russians, not the thousands that actually were.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:37:54am

re: #328 Hecuba’s daughter

Dinesh was racist when I saw him speak over 20 years ago — and he has not improved with age. He seemed to have no awareness or perhaps it was no concern of the systemic discrimination African-Americans endured since the Civil. He was a liar then and remains a liar today.

I think Dinesh’s only problem with the Confederacy is its leaders were mostly Democrats. Anyhow, can I just say something though about the Democratic Party. Yes, there were a lot of Democrats who supported slavery and secession in those days. But there were other Democrats like Martin Van Buren who later opposed slavery and Lincoln’s old famous debate rival, Stephen Douglass who supported the Union fully. Plus a lot of Lincoln’s top generals were Democrats too like Winfield Scott Hancock. The Republican Party of that day deserves its due. They were anti-slavery but the narrative pushed by psuedo-historians of the Civil War being Anti-Slavery Republicans versus Pro-Slavery Democrats is inaccurate.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:38:24am

re: #333 gwangung

It was nonsense about how multicultural student groups at Stanford were oppressing and discriminating against white students at Stanford. Since I was a member of these groups shortly before he encountered them, I thought it was nonsense. We counted some white students as part, but there was a lot of self segregation going on (granted, some by POC students, but just a lot by white students).

Ah okay. Thanks.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:39:06am

re: #334 Eclectic Cyborg

They want people to think there were only a few outlier ads planted by Russians, not the thousands that actually were.

All those Libertarians would sell out the country to make a few more dollars (or in this case, rubles).

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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:40:57am

re: #332 dangerman

this is bizarre

they were already posted on facebook - people saw them, right?

in essence already public, no?

Might become too obvious that we were being fucked with. It’s better for those who took advantage of it to not have to deal with shit like this (noted date and location):

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:44:40am

Howdy!

I was checking out ESPN this morning to see the baseball results from last night since I did not watch.

I saw this article with Pappa John’s Pizza owner (and noted conservative asshole) John Schnatter bitching about the anthem protests by the players hurting his business.

I don’t suppose Schnatter would consider the fact that his pizzas suck and his business is dropping off from NFL fans because as they try them, they decide they don’t like them.

But hey…those damn players.

ESPN - Papa John’s says anthem protests are hurting deal with NFL

Executives from Papa John’s, the official pizza company of the NFL, expressed disappointment on a conference call Wednesday about the league’s ongoing player protests during the national anthem.

“The NFL has hurt us,” company founder and CEO John Schnatter said. “We are disappointed the NFL and its leadership did not resolve this.”

Executives said the company has pulled much of its NFL television advertising and that the NFL has responded by giving the company additional future spots.

“Leadership starts at the top and this is an example of poor leadership,” Schnatter said, noting he thought the issue had been “nipped in the bud” a year and a half ago.

In revising sales estimates for the next quarter, Papa John’s president and chief operating officer Steve Ritchie said on the call that the NFL deal was the primary suspect behind the decline and that “we expect it to persist unless a solution is put in place.”

Ritchie said that research has found that Papa John’s has been the most recognized sponsor associated with the NFL for two years running, which he said means the company’s performance can track with that of the league.

Papa John’s has a deal with not only the NFL, but also with 23 individual teams.

Company executives declined to disclose exactly how much money in projected sales Papa John’s lost from its association with the NFL and declining ratings, which mean fewer people are ordering their product for game days, they said.

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:45:04am

re: #334 Eclectic Cyborg

They want people to think there were only a few outlier ads planted by Russians, not the thousands that actually were.

right, now i see

whatever the committee has in its possession, it’s a fraction
the company would have to identify all of them

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:45:59am

re: #339 ObserverArt

Howdy!

I was checking out ESPN this morning to see the baseball results from last night since I did not watch.

I saw this article with Pappa John’s Pizza owner (and noted conservative asshole) John Schnatter bitching about the anthem protests by the players hurting his business.

I don’t suppose Schnatter would consider the fact that his pizzas suck and his business is dropping off from NFL fans because as they try them, they decide they don’t like them.

But hey…those damn players.

ESPN - Papa John’s says anthem protests are hurting deal with NFL

His pizza is so overrated.

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:46:54am

re: #339 ObserverArt

Howdy!

I was checking out ESPN this morning to see the baseball results from last night since I did not watch.

I saw this article with Pappa John’s Pizza owner (and noted conservative asshole) John Schnatter bitching about the anthem protests by the players hurting his business.

I don’t suppose Schnatter would consider the fact that his pizzas suck and his business is dropping off from NFL fans because as they try them, they decide they don’t like them.

But hey…those damn players.

ESPN - Papa John’s says anthem protests are hurting deal with NFL

shorter papa john’s: the free market sux

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Mike Lamb  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:47:06am

re: #328 Hecuba’s daughter

Dinesh was racist when I saw him speak over 20 years ago — and he has not improved with age. He seemed to have no awareness or perhaps it was no concern of the systemic discrimination African-Americans endured since the Civil. He was a liar then and remains a liar today.

He clearly has no concern about it given that in the excerpt from the Tweet above, he specifically advocates for “rational discrimination” in at least the lending context. He’s advocating for systemic discrimination while at the same time arguing that such discrimination isn’t racist. (All for the ostensible purpose of allowing banks to “save time” when making lending decisions.). I’m developing a migraine.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:47:12am

re: #284 HappyWarrior

That’s the thing isn’t it? The American Civil War caused more deaths than any other of our wars. It amazes me that those who want to wave around the patriotism banner would venerate Lee and the CSA or attempt to defend their cause.

Again, my favorite quote from Virginia-born Union General Henry “The Rock of Chickamauga” Thomas:

[T]he greatest efforts made by the defeated insurgents since the close of the war have been to promulgate the idea that the cause of liberty, justice, humanity, equality, and all the calendar of the virtues of freedom, suffered violence and wrong when the effort for southern independence failed. This is, of course, intended as a species of political cant, whereby the crime of treason might be covered with a counterfeit varnish of patriotism, so that the precipitators of the rebellion might go down in history hand in hand with the defenders of the government, thus wiping out with their own hands their own stains; a species of self-forgiveness amazing in its effrontery, when it is considered that life and property—justly forfeited by the laws of the country, of war, and of nations, through the magnanimity of the government and people—was not exacted from them.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:50:39am

re: #344 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Again, my favorite quote from Virginia-born Union General Henry “The Rock of Chickamauga” Thomas:

[T]he greatest efforts made by the defeated insurgents since the close of the war have been to promulgate the idea that the cause of liberty, justice, humanity, equality, and all the calendar of the virtues of freedom, suffered violence and wrong when the effort for southern independence failed. This is, of course, intended as a species of political cant, whereby the crime of treason might be covered with a counterfeit varnish of patriotism, so that the precipitators of the rebellion might go down in history hand in hand with the defenders of the government, thus wiping out with their own hands their own stains; a species of self-forgiveness amazing in its effrontery, when it is considered that life and property—justly forfeited by the laws of the country, of war, and of nations, through the magnanimity of the government and people—was not exacted from them.

I am glad Thomas is getting his due more in history. He was a great general and patriot.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:51:44am

re: #345 HappyWarrior

I am glad Thomas is getting his due more in history. He was a great general and patriot.

and a rock

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Mike Lamb  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:54:46am

re: #335 HappyWarrior

I think Dinesh’s only problem with the Confederacy is its leaders were mostly Democrats. Anyhow, can I just say something though about the Democratic Party. Yes, there were a lot of Democrats who supported slavery and secession in those days. But there were other Democrats like Martin Van Buren who later opposed slavery and Lincoln’s old famous debate rival, Stephen Douglass who supported the Union fully. Plus a lot of Lincoln’s top generals were Democrats too like Winfield Scott Hancock. The Republican Party of that day deserves its due. They were anti-slavery but the narrative pushed by psuedo-historians of the Civil War being Anti-Slavery Republicans versus Pro-Slavery Democrats is inaccurate.

The tripe about the Dems being the racist party is just horseshit all the way down. It was a regional/cultural divide, not a political divide. Northern Dems didn’t support slavery (certainly not in a party platform type of way). The South became Dems largely as a backlash to the fact that Lincoln was a Republican. And last but not least, regardless of the historical origins the Democratic Party in Southern states and their espousal of racism, what dipshits like D’Souza can’t grasp/hand wave away is that the descendants of the racist Southern Democrats are now the core of the modern fucking GOP—and that is absolutely by design.

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:54:56am

re: #344 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Again, my favorite quote from Virginia-born Union General Henry “The Rock of Chickamauga” Thomas:

[T]he greatest efforts made by the defeated insurgents since the close of the war have been to promulgate the idea that the cause of liberty, justice, humanity, equality, and all the calendar of the virtues of freedom, suffered violence and wrong when the effort for southern independence failed. This is, of course, intended as a species of political cant, whereby the crime of treason might be covered with a counterfeit varnish of patriotism, so that the precipitators of the rebellion might go down in history hand in hand with the defenders of the government, thus wiping out with their own hands their own stains; a species of self-forgiveness amazing in its effrontery, when it is considered that life and property—justly forfeited by the laws of the country, of war, and of nations, through the magnanimity of the government and people—was not exacted from them.

That’s where the north failed.

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:56:24am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 1, 2017 • 8:58:31am
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Belafon  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:00:35am

re: #350 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Now that it’s November, are you going to become Featherlington.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:00:39am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:01:30am

re: #347 Mike Lamb

The tripe about the Dems being the racist party is just horseshit all the way down. It was a regional/cultural divide, not a political divide. Northern Dems didn’t support slavery (certainly not in a party platform type of way). The South became Dems largely as a backlash to the fact that Lincoln was a Republican. And last but not least, regardless of the historical origins the Democratic Party in Southern states and their espousal of racism, what dipshits like D’Souza can’t grasp/hand wave away is that the descendants of the racist Southern Democrats are now the core of the modern fucking GOP—and that is absolutely by design.

Yep.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:02:08am

re: #349 lawhawk

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:05:29am

Who the fuck is this Laura Loomer. Oh wait, she’s a Jimmy O’Keefe special kind of nut. That explains much, including the inability to get on an MTA bus or subway or just walk to the destination.

The fact that there are so many Muslims in NYC and so little actual crime should disabuse of the notion that Muslims are particularly dangerous.

But these are xenophobes and Islamophobes who need to hate so badly that they spew nonsensical ravings that Fox News just loves to regurgitate.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:06:47am

re: #351 Belafon

Now that it’s November, are you going to become Featherlington.

Only if I’m the turkey that gets pardoned.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:07:25am

re: #302 The Vicious Babushka

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:07:56am

re: #355 lawhawk

The fact that there are so many Muslims in NYC and so little actual crime should disabuse of the notion that Muslims are particularly dangerous.

But these are xenophobes and Islamophobes who need to hate so badly that they spew nonsensical ravings that Fox News just loves to regurgitate.

And again, this fellow came from a country that was not on the Muslim Ban list…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:07:58am

re: #355 lawhawk

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Who the fuck is this Laura Loomer. Oh wait, she’s a Jimmy O’Keefe special kind of nut. That explains much, including the inability to get on an MTA bus or subway or just walk to the destination.

The fact that there are so many Muslims in NYC and so little actual crime should disabuse of the notion that Muslims are particularly dangerous.

But these are xenophobes and Islamophobes who need to hate so badly that they spew nonsensical ravings that Fox News just loves to regurgitate.

Waaaaah. Stupid ignorant nutcase. Anyhow, she doesn’t know whether they’re all Muslim not that it matters.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:08:36am

re: #357 Ace-o-aces

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EXTREME VETTING!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:08:53am

re: #355 lawhawk

By her profile pic it looks like she wants to be a Fox News Deplorablonde

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:09:12am

I saw some idiots claiming Laura wasn’t a bigot in a story about her and the university of Minnesota.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:09:56am

re: #361 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

By her profile pic it looks like she wants to be a Fox News Deplorablonde

She fits the template: Blonde, sounds like a 60 year old balding white guy who gets all his information about the world from Rush, making a good living but somehow in a rage about liberalism.

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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:10:14am

re: #355 lawhawk

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Who the fuck is this Laura Loomer. Oh wait, she’s a Jimmy O’Keefe special kind of nut. That explains much, including the inability to get on an MTA bus or subway or just walk to the destination.

The fact that there are so many Muslims in NYC and so little actual crime should disabuse of the notion that Muslims are particularly dangerous.

But these are xenophobes and Islamophobes who need to hate so badly that they spew nonsensical ravings that Fox News just loves to regurgitate.

I guess she never got that tire fixed.

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:11:43am

re: #335 HappyWarrior

I think Dinesh’s only problem with the Confederacy is its leaders were mostly Democrats. Anyhow, can I just say something though about the Democratic Party. Yes, there were a lot of Democrats who supported slavery and secession in those days. But there were other Democrats like Martin Van Buren who later opposed slavery and Lincoln’s old famous debate rival, Stephen Douglass who supported the Union fully. Plus a lot of Lincoln’s top generals were Democrats too like Winfield Scott Hancock. The Republican Party of that day deserves its due. They were anti-slavery but the narrative pushed by psuedo-historians of the Civil War being Anti-Slavery Republicans versus Pro-Slavery Democrats is inaccurate.

Political mud slinging has never needed accuracy.

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:12:56am

re: #358 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:15:22am

re: #359 HappyWarrior

Waaaaah. Stupid ignorant nutcase. Anyhow, she doesn’t know whether they’re all Muslim not that it matters.

She’s the kind of bugnut who thinks a Sikh is a Muslim or that anyone who isn’t lily white is a terror threat.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:16:50am

re: #366 lawhawk

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Seriously how fucking tone deaf is he? And as an American of Irish descent, it really pisses me off how Pete pulls the same crap pulled on Irish immigrants.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:18:09am

re: #367 lawhawk

She’s the kind of bugnut who thinks a Sikh is a Muslim or that anyone who isn’t lily white is a terror threat.

Sikh, Hindu. They’re all dark skinned with facial hair that makes me feel uncomfortable! I’d love to see Laura’s reaction if she ever went to Sarajevo or Tirana.

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(Bert the Turtle)  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:19:43am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:22:22am
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:23:15am

I met this guy when we visited Moscow 10 years ago. He’s hilarious!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:24:02am
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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:24:18am

re: #367 lawhawk

She’s the kind of bugnut who thinks a Sikh is a Muslim or that anyone who isn’t lily white is a terror threat.

Shorter Laura Loomer: I’m running late putting on all my makeup and teasing my hair so I need an easy excuse all my followers will buy.

Tweet the hate.

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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:25:24am

Yeah, this. Cardin: Russia’s election meddling is ‘an act of war’

Russian efforts to interfere in last year’s presidential election amount to “an act of war,” Sen. Ben Cardin said Wednesday, and to question otherwise plays right into Russia’s hands.

“You’re falling into Russia’s trap. Russia is spending money in this country to convince us that this is nothing more than what’s been done since the beginning of time,” Cardin (D-Md.) said Wednesday at an event hosted by the National Democratic Institute. “It’s a conscientious effort to say ‘we all do this, so why is America getting upset?’ And we’re falling trap to it because we’re giving legitimacy to this.”

“Cyber is an attack against our country. When you use cyber in an affirmative way to compromise our democratic, free election system, that’s an attack against America,” he continued. “It’s an act of war. It is an act of war.”

Knocking off a couple of points for use of the hated ‘cyber.’ Otherwise, dead on.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:26:52am

re: #147 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

it doesn’t matter if he was the pizza delivery boy - if he can testify as to what was really happening, his testimony is as good as anybody’s

Monica Lewinsky was an intern, and that seemed to be fine with the GOP.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:27:05am

re: #375 makeitstop

Yeah, this. Cardin: Russia’s election meddling is ‘an act of war’

Knocking off a couple of points for use of the hated ‘cyber.’ Otherwise, dead on.

I would not go that far, but it is a hostile act, and anyone involved in collusion with them should be prosecuted.

To the full extent of the law.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:27:38am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:29:52am

re: #378 Ace-o-aces

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Why, it’s almost like you think that businesses shouldn’t be able to discriminate against people using religion. Not that I believe this at all though.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:29:55am
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Nyet  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:30:12am

re: #355 lawhawk

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Who the fuck is this Laura Loomer. Oh wait, she’s a Jimmy O’Keefe special kind of nut. That explains much, including the inability to get on an MTA bus or subway or just walk to the destination.

She’s a Jewish woman who dates Baked Alaska, the guy who posted a photoshop of her in an Auschwitz gas chamber.

That’s all you need to know.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:30:17am

re: #378 Ace-o-aces

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:30:27am

re: #248 JordanRules

The one that got me, and I mean like a gut punch, was seeing an ad in a newspaper that had a list of things for sale like butter…and a little black boy. In print. In a newspaper. I will never forget seeing that as long as I live.

This is what they want compromise on? Fuck them. Fuck them all.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:31:29am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:32:17am

re: #383 MsJ

The one that got me, and I mean like a gut punch, was seeing an ad in a newspaper that had a list of things for sale like butter…and a little black boy. In print. In a newspaper. I will never forget seeing that as long as I live.

This is what they want compromise on? Fuck them. Fuck them all.

But hey they were men of honor. Never mind the fact that all captured black soldiers were forced into slavery and their white officers often executed.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:32:25am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:33:07am

If Lincoln were the actual tyrant the CSA lovers claim him to be, we wouldn’t have a Lost Cause mythology because no one would have been able to write the Lost Cause mythology. Lincoln’s charitableness unfortunately is why the Lost Cause exists.

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retired cynic  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:33:47am

re: #282 Nyet

There are a number of good comments to that post. Not just the knee-jerk kind.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:33:47am

re: #386 The Vicious Babushka

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Now wouldn’t it be something if one of the victims was a victim of this same visa program?

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:35:37am

re: #387 HappyWarrior

If Lincoln were the actual tyrant the CSA lovers claim him to be, we wouldn’t have a Lost Cause mythology because no one would have been able to write the Lost Cause mythology. Lincoln’s charitableness unfortunately is why the Lost Cause exists.

Yeah, if Lincoln really were the tyrant the CSA supporters say he was, it wouldn’t have been “With malice towards none and charity towards all”…..it would’ve been more like “Execute Order 66.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:36:28am

re: #390 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, if Lincoln really were the tyrant the CSA supporters say he was, it wouldn’t have been “With malice towards none and charity towards all”…..it would’ve been more like “Execute Order 66.”

Also, if you want proof of the CSA’s hypocrisy. Look at how secession movements were treated within the Confederacy.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:37:00am

Meanwhile our little Nazi sympathizer retweets that same neo-Nazi.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:37:56am
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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:39:18am

re: #381 Nyet

She’s a Jewish woman who dates Baked Alaska, the guy who posted a photoshop of her in an Auschwitz gas chamber.

That’s all you need to know.

So, she is a mess with a goofball boyfriend.

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CongoJack  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:40:23am

re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth

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*sniff*

I smell nervous sweat.

And poo.

Nervous sweat and poo.

And the poo could be my 1 week old son.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:41:03am

re: #392 Nyet

Meanwhile our little Nazi sympathizer retweets that same neo-Nazi.

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It’s amazing how gamergate flipped so many gamers who were once seemingly-reasonable people into right-wing extremists.

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whitebeach  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:42:44am

re: #129 Joe Bacon 🌹

Find A Grave shows his tombstone in the Congressional Cemetery and a picture of him

findagrave.com

Further information here. He served in various facets of DC Goverment:

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Census records

ronulrich.com

He was the Union General in charge of the defense of DC. Here’s one of his military orders

loc.gov

Thanks for this fascinating information. That and some googling also explain why General Bacon isn’t in “Generals in Blue”: He was a commander of the D.C. militia, not of regular U.S. Army forces. His responsibilities were certainly greater than those of many regular generals in the field, but Warner’s book includes only the regulars.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:42:59am

re: #396 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It’s amazing how gamergate flipped so many gamers who were once seemingly-reasonable people into right-wing extremists.

I’ve read about Gamergate. It’s really amazing how it made them flip their shit.

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William Lewis  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:43:16am

re: #396 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It’s amazing how gamergate flipped so many gamers who were once seemingly-reasonable people into right-wing extremists.

Exposed not flipped. They were simply able to pretend to be reasonable till they presumed that everyone must believe like they did.

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CongoJack  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:45:05am

re: #396 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

re: #398 HappyWarrior

Could I get the crib notes of gamergate? I didn’t follow it at all - and I would be a gamer (more so in my past - less since mid 2015 - dating, marriage, and children seem to stop that activity - but I got an itch to play some Destiny 2).

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:45:14am

re: #306 dangerman

and 21.47% - not a chance

My exact thought.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:48:13am

re: #400 CongoJack

Could I get the crib notes of gamergate? I didn’t follow it at all - and I would be a gamer (more so in my past - less since mid 2015 - dating, marriage, and children seem to stop that activity - but I got an itch to play some Destiny 2).

Okay someone can explain it better than I can but the gist from what I get is some reviewer wrote a positive review of an Indy Game in 2014. The ex of the woman who developed the game alleged that the reason why the game got favorably reviewed is because his ex (the developer) slept with the reviewer and it got all the bros in a frenzy. It’s also I believe how Milo made his name and rep even though he had mocked gamers previously but Milo being Milo the attention junkie he is saw an opportunity and it jump started his 15 mins of fame. I like games too. In fact, I was playing MGS V just last night and I very much enjoy gaming as a form of entertainment but these guys.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:48:20am
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MsJ  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:48:38am

re: #330 No Depression

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Guess it’s time for the Senate to subpoena @jack and Mark Zuckerburg. I for one would love to see them testify under oath.

Especially since Zuck wants to run for president. I can’t imagine how Facebook could help in that effort. Nope. Can’t imagine it at all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:48:53am

heh

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:48:59am

re: #403 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Cue the Trump whiners who live in lily white places whining about PC run amok.

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:49:26am

re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Slate article notes that the attorney client privilege is a bedrock legal principle, but there’s a very limited exception (crime-fraud exception) where a person uses that privilege to try and engage in a criminal act. The article details just how Mueller identified exactly what the criminal/fraudulent act was and the court agreed that this was a textbook example.

The court made it abundantly clear that they understood exactly what Manafort was doing and how the privilege would be waived as a result of Manafort’s actions.

The crime-fraud exception holds that if a client seeks legal advice in furtherance of a crime, privileged communications between the attorney and client are waived. In effect, the distinction is as follows: You can safely tell your lawyer where you buried the bodies, but you can’t ask your lawyer how to bury the bodies.

Manafort was asking the latter (money laundering). Mueller wanted the answer to that - and got the court to agree that the lawyer had to answer that.

In effect, Manafort was pulling an Office Space (how do you money launder? go to the dictionary).

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:49:44am

re: #386 The Vicious Babushka

That only applies to mass shootings.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:50:18am

re: #405 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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I love Soledad. She’s great. Anyhow, that’s the free market Laura. You could have gotten to the presser another way but you chose not to. As for your likely bs sotry about being denied service because you’re Jewish, uh aren’t you on the ideology who thinks businesses can discriminate against whoever the hell they want to?

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:50:33am

re: #394 ObserverArt

So, she is a mess with a goofball boyfriend.

She’s a mess, and her boyfriend’s a white supremacist/Nazi.

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gwangung  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:51:05am

re: #402 HappyWarrior

Okay someone can explain it better than I can but the gist from what I get is some reviewer wrote a positive review of an Indy Game in 2014. The ex of the woman who developed the game alleged that the reason why the game got favorably reviewed is because his ex (the developer) slept with the reviewer and it got all the bros in a frenzy. It’s also I believe how Milo made his name and rep even though he had mocked gamers previously but Milo being Milo the attention junkie he is saw an opportunity and it jump started his 15 mins of fame. I like games too. In fact, I was playing MGS V just last night and I very much enjoy gaming as a form of entertainment but these guys.

Even though the person who wrote the review is not the person the ex- slept with.

Gamergaters developed the tactic of swarming their critics, pinpointing those who were POCs or women.

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retired cynic  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:51:07am

re: #328 Hecuba’s daughter

Dinesh was racist when I saw him speak over 20 years ago — and he has not improved with age. He seemed to have no awareness or perhaps it was no concern of the systemic discrimination African-Americans endured since the Civil. He was a liar then and remains a liar today.

Does he think he is white? Or that the people whose approval he seeks would consider him white?

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:51:18am

re: #392 Nyet

And retweeted a Holocaust denier.

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sagehen  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:51:24am

re: #249 Belafon

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Gee. When the President was a D, doing “out of control” things like trying to appoint judges, or sending special ops teams on successful missions that didn’t kill any of ours, they thought checking him was the single most important thing they could possibly be doing.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:51:42am

re: #405 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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prairiefire  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:51:55am

Driving Miss Dixie. Taking my 80 year old mom and 2 girlfriends from high school around their old neighbors for a look at their old stomping grounds.

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I cannot.  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:52:40am

re: #402 HappyWarrior

Even dumber than that. The guy that wrote the article talked with the female dev about a game/games, not even HER game.

And because of that, she was fcking everyone in sight to get good press.

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:52:54am

re: #396 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It’s amazing how gamergate flipped so many gamers who were once seemingly-reasonable people into right-wing extremists.

If you look at some of them, I think it is reasonable to think they are still playing games.

When shit gets real serious they will cry like the little asses they are.

And speaking of Baked White guys…I just came across this.

Baked Alaska tries to have a conversation with Malcolm Nance about race.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:53:16am

re: #355 lawhawk

I’m late to the NYPD press conference because I couldn’t find a non Muslim cab or @Uber @lyft driver for over 30 min! This is insanity.

— Laura Loomer

Alright, which one of us forgot that the world is supposed to accommodate this Laura person?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:54:48am

re: #411 gwangung

Even though the person who wrote the review is not the person the ex- slept with.

Gamergaters developed the tactic of swarming their critics, pinpointing those who were POCs or women.

Yep. Nasty nasty stuff.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:55:45am

re: #417 I cannot.

Even dumber than that. The guy that wrote the article talked with the female dev about a game/games, not even HER game.

And because of that, she was fcking everyone in sight to get good press.

JFC. I knew it was petty shit but not that kind of petty shit.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:57:49am

re: #405 Backwoods_Sleuth

This ass has a shitload of reportable tweets on here timeline. Popped 5 different tweets with no doubt. How many can you find.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:58:05am
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CongoJack  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:59:15am

re: #402 HappyWarrior

re: #411 gwangung

re: #417 I cannot.

So its just stupid shit that the male population that play vidya get all riled about because of a woman and POC.

Is it safe that I can ignore this - I have a lot IRL gamer friends - this has never been mentioned in any discussion (granted my gamer friends all are college educated and are not assholes).

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Stanley Sea  Nov 1, 2017 • 9:59:25am

Waiting for the tape from the WH that has someone saying, “this is the best thing that could’ve happened”

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gwangung  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:01:25am

re: #424 CongoJack

So its just stupid shit that the male population that play vidya get all riled about because of a woman and POC.

Is it safe that I can ignore this - I have a lot IRL gamer friends - this has never been mentioned in any discussion (granted my gamer friends all are college educated and are not assholes).

I think you can stop after “shit.”

It just revealed there there is a lot of racism and sexism out.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:01:42am

re: #424 CongoJack

So its just stupid shit that the male population that play vidya get all riled about because of a woman and POC.

Is it safe that I can ignore this - I have a lot IRL gamer friends - this has never been mentioned in any discussion (granted my gamer friends all are college educated and are not assholes).

I dunno. And you know here’s the thing, I’m a guy on the spectrum, I’m someone who they certainly would target to go with their misogyny but you know what, I know personally how hard my mom worked to get where she is and I know other women work hard too.

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:04:12am

re: #418 ObserverArt

If you look at some of them, I think it is reasonable to think they are still playing games.

When shit gets real serious they will cry like the little asses they are.

And speaking of Baked White guys…I just came across this.

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Damn forget to add: Baked Alaska made Nance’s point simply by saying “White Pride” while being a leader of the White Nationalist group. Exactly what Nance was saying…it always comes from the racist asshole white guys.

I’m as white as it gets. I’ve never yelled “White Power” at anyone and never had the need to say I am proud to be white. Of course, I am also not a White Nationalist/KKK/Aryan Nation kind of guy.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:04:59am

re: #341 HappyWarrior

His pizza is so overrated.

Fuck him. He was against Obamacare because it would cost an extra 10 cents a pizza. 10 cents. What person wouldn’t want to pay an extra 1% for everything if it meant that workers would get health insurance?

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plansbandc  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:06:10am

re: #429 I Would Prefer Not To

Every single Republican.

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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:07:00am

re: #302 The Vicious Babushka

I can imagine that Ta-Nehisi, if he even saw this “challenge” would say “Go fuck yourself”

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Why would debating a dishonest sleazebag accomplish anything?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:08:35am

re: #381 Nyet

She’s a Jewish woman who dates Baked Alaska, the guy who posted a photoshop of her in an Auschwitz gas chamber.

That’s all you need to know.

Wait. A woman (who is not in a coma) dates Baked Alaska?

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Renaissance_Man  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:09:30am

re: #427 HappyWarrior

I dunno. And you know here’s the thing, I’m a guy on the spectrum, I’m someone who they certainly would target to go with their misogyny but you know what, I know personally how hard my mom worked to get where she is and I know other women work hard too.

Most online video gamers are teenage males or young adults. This is a demographic that is prone to antisocial behaviour, and has a tendency to cluster in groups with a gang-type mentality. This is not limited to teenage males, naturally - most online video gamers are males in general with a similar mentality. Add the anonymity and freedom of consequences that the internet provides, and there is a huge subsection of online game players that are, in short, humongous assholes. And they’re free to be because there are no real consequences, due to anonymity.

You are who you are on the internet, and as a species, we have failed this test of character. This is a large part of my avoidance of all social media, and why I reveal very little about myself in any online forum. The mentality of Gamergate goes hand in hand with the mentality of Facebook and Twitter trolls, and, further out, the mentality of the know-nothing far right and their media cult. As a species, part of our next step of evolution must be to incorporate the social norms and responsibilities we feel when interacting in person to our online interactions.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:09:33am

re: #428 ObserverArt

Damn forget to add: Baked Alaska made Nance’s point simply by saying “White Pride” while being a leader of the White Nationalist group. Exactly what Nance was saying…it always comes from the racist asshole white guys.

I’m as white as it gets. I’ve never yelled “White Power” at anyone and never had the need to say I am proud to be white. Of course, I am also not a White Nationalist/KKK/Aryan Nation kind of guy.

I’ve never felt proud to be white. I’ve never been ashamed necessarily either. Certainly
aware of terrible things done in the name of the white race. I guess the thing for me is I’m proud of my accomplishments: my ba, my paralegal certification, etc. I’m proud of my ethnic background but that’s because I love the culture. I’m happy to be sharing my country with people of all backgrounds. This land is just much theirs as it is mine.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:09:46am

mine, too.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:10:15am

re: #426 gwangung

I think you can stop after “shit.”

It just revealed there there is a lot of racism and sexism out.

Anyone who played a multiplayer game with voice chat already knew that, but I think Gamergate flipped some people who weren’t the problem players.
Crazed bigots are one reason that I use Discord to chat with friends-only in games.

VR games don’t have that problem yet, since the bar for entry is pretty high, but it’ll happen there too when headset prices come down.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:10:37am

Report plz.

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CongoJack  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:12:10am

Thanks for the info everyone!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:12:36am

re: #437 Nyet

Report plz.

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I’m blocked form see this jerk.. Not sure why. I don’t tweet much. Mostly use it to report people that you ask me to.

Keep up the good work.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:12:57am

It’s really unfortunate because I think my youngest brother is a bit of a gamer bro in a way. My other brother and I enjoy gaming but it’s more as something to pass the time. His passion is the outdoors while mine is my genealogical research. Nothing wrong with gaming as a hobby mind you but I agree about the culture of teenage boys.

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:13:24am

re: #435 Backwoods_Sleuth

Applicable to all Trump tweets.
Applicable to anything Fox spews.
Applicable to deplorables.
Applicable to right wingers/GOP.

And

Applicable to all McConnell, Ryan, and Pence tweets.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:14:29am

re: #437 Nyet

Report plz.

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I would, but I’m blocked.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:15:56am

re: #432 I Would Prefer Not To

Wait. A woman (who is not in a coma) dates Baked Alaska?

Low self esteem. Probably also anorexic.

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:17:37am

re: #429 I Would Prefer Not To

Fuck him. He was against Obamacare because it would cost an extra 10 cents a pizza. 10 cents. What person wouldn’t want to pay an extra 1% for everything if it meant that workers would get health insurance?

Wrong way to state that…who wouldn’t pay an extra ten cents to ensure that you wouldn’t have preexisting conditions kill you, basic mandatory coverage (shots, annual physicals, pap smears, prostate exams), and you couldn’t lose insurance by various companies whims? Oh, and everyone would get coverage, so that sick people who work in restaurants won’t infect you because they had no insurance to see a doctor? Oh, and so that those incredible ER charges that don’t get paid don’t increase the cost of YOUR insurance because everyone pays when someone skips out? Who skips out? People with no insurance and shit jobs who can’t pay…so everyone does.

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plansbandc  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:18:01am

re: #437 Nyet

Blocked and reported.

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:18:01am

re: #432 I Would Prefer Not To

Wait. A woman (who is not in a coma) dates Baked Alaska?

There are as many hateful women out there as there are men.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:18:41am
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Nyet  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:18:55am

re: #442 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

re: #439 I Would Prefer Not To

Try reporting the account in general, this is allowed even if you’re blocked.
The vertical row of three dots on the right side.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:19:11am

I’m probably one of the few liberal white males that my brother’s friends know honestly. This is a county that went for Clinton, yes but we’re in a conservative part of it with GOP representation. Anyhow. I try to lead by example when talking with them. They know that my brother and I’s niece is Hispanic due to her mother’s Peruvian background. I just want them to understand this fundamental point. Never be a dick to someone because he or she looks different than you or comes from a different background. I was very lucky to grow up where I did in a more diverse area. I think that’s why perhaps me and my other brother- the father of my niece have more empathy for people of different backgrounds than our youngest brother. Now, I’m not saying my youngest brother is hateful or anything like that but he can’t empathize as well and maybe part of that is age too.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:19:55am

re: #437 Nyet

Report plz.

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I’m blocked…. Thx you

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:20:11am

re: #437 Nyet

It blocked me…

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electrotek  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:20:21am

re: #355 lawhawk

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Who the fuck is this Laura Loomer. Oh wait, she’s a Jimmy O’Keefe special kind of nut. That explains much, including the inability to get on an MTA bus or subway or just walk to the destination.

The fact that there are so many Muslims in NYC and so little actual crime should disabuse of the notion that Muslims are particularly dangerous.

But these are xenophobes and Islamophobes who need to hate so badly that they spew nonsensical ravings that Fox News just loves to regurgitate.

Oh my God I fell off the floor laughing so hard I spilled by Turkish covfefe all over my desk.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:21:02am

re: #448 Nyet

Try reporting the account in general, this is allowed even if you’re blocked.
The vertical row of three dots on the right side.

Dones. Thanks.

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Citizen K  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:23:01am

re: #433 Renaissance_Man

Most online video gamers are teenage males or young adults. This is a demographic that is prone to antisocial behaviour, and has a tendency to cluster in groups with a gang-type mentality. This is not limited to teenage males, naturally - most online video gamers are males in general with a similar mentality. Add the anonymity and freedom of consequences that the internet provides, and there is a huge subsection of online game players that are, in short, humongous assholes. And they’re free to be because there are no real consequences, due to anonymity.

You are who you are on the internet, and as a species, we have failed this test of character. This is a large part of my avoidance of all social media, and why I reveal very little about myself in any online forum. The mentality of Gamergate goes hand in hand with the mentality of Facebook and Twitter trolls, and, further out, the mentality of the know-nothing far right and their media cult. As a species, part of our next step of evolution must be to incorporate the social norms and responsibilities we feel when interacting in person to our online interactions.

Yeah, this is a big part of it. It’s not so much people ‘flipped’ as they exposed their ass. They showed who they really were under the facade.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:23:37am

re: #437 Nyet

Report plz.

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pretty sure it has blocked anyone obviously connected with LGF.
I’m blocked but still reported it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:25:08am

re: #454 Citizen K

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Yeah, this is a big part of it. It’s not so much people ‘flipped’ as they exposed their ass. They showed who they really were under the facade.

Can I just say I love that we have “Helllboy” Ron Perlman on our side?

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I cannot.  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:25:43am

re: #436 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I don’t use voice ever, unless I’ve received assurances from friends that everyone is “safe”. I play games to be frustrated by boss fights and take out my rage from the real world, not to be enraged in-game.

And usually I play single-player, because I…play MMOs to…avoid people…

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:26:59am

re: #447 Ace-o-aces

Wouldn’t it be great to Repeal the very unfair and unpopular Individual Mandate in ObamaCare and use those savings for further Tax Cuts…..

— Donald J. Trump

Use what savings? Please show your work.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:27:12am

hoo boy…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:27:38am

re: #457 I cannot.

I don’t use voice ever, unless I’ve received assurances from friends that everyone is “safe”. I play games to be frustrated by boss fights and take out my rage from the real world, not to be enraged in-game.

And usually I play single-player, because I…play MMOs to…avoid people…

I prefer single player too. Multiplayer really isn’t my thing. I like single player because I like to get involved in a great story and most single player modes have stronger stories than MP.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:27:59am

re: #459 Backwoods_Sleuth

hoo boy…

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Uh oh Jared.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:28:31am

A black cab has smashed into pedestrians after mounting a pavement in Covent Garden.

It is not yet clear if the incident is terror related or an accident.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:29:03am

re: #384 FormerDirtDart

Trump now complaining immigration reform hasn’t been passed.

GOP **won’t allow vote** on immigration reform.

Trump does not mean “immigration reform” in any other sense than “Deporting all illegals and hermetically sealing our borders to non-white non-Christians”.

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electrotek  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:29:31am

The NYC suspect was bragging about his attack from his hospital bed.

Unbelievable.

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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:29:49am
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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:31:48am

re: #459 Backwoods_Sleuth

After indictments, Trump blamed Kushner in a call to Steve Bannon, while others are urging him to take off the gloves with Robert Mueller

I’d say that’s a pair of gloves he would forever regret taking off.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:31:58am

re: #460 HappyWarrior

I prefer single player too. Multiplayer really isn’t my thing. I like single player because I like to get involved in a great story and most single player modes have stronger stories than MP.

I was exclusively single player for a long time. Now that I play some games that have lobbies, or the one multiplayer game I play, GunHeart, having used my real name as my Steam name is a problem.

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electrotek  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:32:00am

re: #462 Nyet

Link?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:34:02am

re: #459 Backwoods_Sleuth

hoo boy…

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He’s even more disgusting-looking out of focus.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:35:10am

re: #465 makeitstop

I love that guy..

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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:35:26am

Weird.

For those not familiar -

Charlie bit my finger ( original full version )

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:35:39am

re: #459 Backwoods_Sleuth

Envisioning the three of those assholes pictured in prison orange makes me tingle all over.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:36:58am
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Citizen K  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:37:22am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:39:55am

re: #473 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah Jeff Flake already smacked Donald down about this. But I’m sure Donny will keep repeating the lie.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:40:35am

re: #474 Citizen K

McCain: “There’s no miranda rights for someone who kills Americans.”

— Andrew Desiderio

Doesn’t mean the attacker will talk.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:40:42am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:40:51am

re: #474 Citizen K

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Uh Senator. Anyhow, that’s just proof in the pudding that even “moderate GOPers” are insane.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:41:39am

re: #474 Citizen K

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Five of the eight killed were Argentinian, a sixth was Belgian.
So for those keeping count, that means two Americans.

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whitebeach  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:42:43am

re: #335 HappyWarrior

I think Dinesh’s only problem with the Confederacy is its leaders were mostly Democrats. Anyhow, can I just say something though about the Democratic Party. Yes, there were a lot of Democrats who supported slavery and secession in those days. But there were other Democrats like Martin Van Buren who later opposed slavery and Lincoln’s old famous debate rival, Stephen Douglass who supported the Union fully. Plus a lot of Lincoln’s top generals were Democrats too like Winfield Scott Hancock. The Republican Party of that day deserves its due. They were anti-slavery but the narrative pushed by psuedo-historians of the Civil War being Anti-Slavery Republicans versus Pro-Slavery Democrats is inaccurate.

In the 1860 presidential race, the Democratic convention at Charleston couldn’t pick a candidate due to differences over you-know-what, basically. So they held a second convention, in Baltimore I believe, and still couldn’t agree on a candidate. Whereupon they split into northern and southern factions, with the north running Stephen Douglas and the south John Breckinridge. So, yeah, anybody trying to paint this house a single color is painting with poop.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:43:06am

re: #479 Backwoods_Sleuth

Five of the eight killed were Argentinian, a sixth was Belgian.
So for those keeping count, that means two Americans.

I mean even if all the eight killed were Americans, “You kill Americans, you don’t get Mirandaized.” Huh?

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:43:20am

Laura Loomer needs the old shanks mare app.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:43:37am

re: #481 HappyWarrior

I mean even if all the eight killed were Americans, “You kill Americans, you don’t get Mirandaized.” Huh?

I think it’s the tumor talking.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:44:17am

re: #483 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I think it’s the tumor talking.

True enough.

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William Lewis  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:44:53am

re: #434 HappyWarrior

I’ve never felt proud to be white. I’ve never been ashamed necessarily either. Certainly
aware of terrible things done in the name of the white race. I guess the thing for me is I’m proud of my accomplishments: my ba, my paralegal certification, etc. I’m proud of my ethnic background but that’s because I love the culture. I’m happy to be sharing my country with people of all backgrounds. This land is just much theirs as it is mine.

On occasion, my Vietnamese son says he is proud to be not white because of the shit we have done. I rarely disagree.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:44:58am

re: #473 Backwoods_Sleuth

The terrorist came into our country through what is called the “Diversity Visa Lottery Program,” a Chuck Schumer beauty. I want merit based.

— Donald J. Trump

Merit. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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electrotek  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:45:18am
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Citizen K  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:45:25am

re: #476 Sir John Barron

Doesn’t mean the attacker will talk.

The point isn’t to make them talk. The point is to make them suffer. They want a pound of flesh from ‘terrorists’, to make themselves feel better, rather than actually finding reasonable ways to prevent further attacks. It’s all reactionary and retaliatory.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:45:59am

re: #485 William Lewis

On occasion, my Vietnamese son says he is proud to be not white because of the shit we have done. I rarely disagree.

Hard to argue with that.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:46:14am
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MsJ  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:46:16am

re: #459 Backwoods_Sleuth

Really interesting video at that Vanity Fair article. The article is good but the video is equally interesting.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:46:28am

re: #487 electrotek

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Stupid idiot. It’s their city too, you clown.

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Citizen K  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:47:28am

re: #479 Backwoods_Sleuth

Five of the eight killed were Argentinian, a sixth was Belgian.
So for those keeping count, that means two Americans.

re: #481 HappyWarrior

I mean even if all the eight killed were Americans, “You kill Americans, you don’t get Mirandaized.” Huh?

Yep. It’s doubly stupid on all accounts.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:47:42am

“Sessions told Sen. Al Franken (D-MN) at the January hearing that he was “not aware” of evidence that anyone affiliated with the Trump campaign communicated with the Russian government during the campaign.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:48:22am

re: #494 jaunte

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He neds to join Manafort and Gates on the docket.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:49:50am

re: #495 HappyWarrior

He neds to join Manafort and Gates on the docket.

Patience, grasshopper.

I’m pretty sure there’s an indictment with his name on it in the pipeline.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:50:09am

With the release of these materials, the information remaining in the collection that has not been released publicly includes materials that are protected by copyright; sensitive such that their release would directly damage efforts to keep the nation secure; pornography; malware; and blank, corrupted, and duplicate files. The entire collection has been available to the US Intelligence Community and Department of Defense organizations for years.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:50:11am

re: #495 HappyWarrior

Our top lie enforcement officer.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:50:35am

re: #496 Dr Lizardo

Patience, grasshopper.

I’m pretty sure there’s an indictment with his name on it in the pipeline.

Oh I know. I trust Mueller.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:51:23am

Yeah,he doesn’t have a clue what is going on.
How can he possibly be less engaged than 2nd term Reagan?

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:52:02am

re: #498 jaunte

Our top lie enforcement officer.

Sur, You have insulted mah on her even though I have been lying my ass off the entie time

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:52:20am

re: #487 electrotek

You’d think they’d have the decency to not walk around in hijabs @ cross street of the attack. But they don’t. I bet they’re loving this.

— Laura Loomer

Poor little snowflake.

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:52:54am

re: #461 HappyWarrior

Uh oh Jared.

But then there is Ivanka.

Who knows, maybe Donny breaks up the entire family over all of this.

Choosing sides in the White House. It is the newest game!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:53:43am

re: #503 ObserverArt

But then there is Ivanka.

Who knows, maybe Donny breaks up the entire family over all of this.

Choosing sides in the White House. It is the newest game!

That would be too funny.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:53:54am

re: #500 FormerDirtDart

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:54:19am

re: #502 Sir John Barron

Poor little snowflake.

Oh, it’s just another fart in the wind…

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 1, 2017 • 10:58:05am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:00:47am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:03:23am

oh…

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:04:37am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:04:52am

re: #487 electrotek

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b_sharp  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:05:27am

re: #27 Anymouse 🌹

The place doesn’t look like much from the outside, and it’s rather small on the inside. My wife and I arrived right between the normal lunch and dinner hours, so we had the whole place to ourselves. The food and service were superb.

When were you there?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:05:43am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:06:12am

re: #509 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh…

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Yeah i know innocent until proven guilty, the right to counsel, due process, all things that Vlad told you are bad.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:07:27am

re: #481 HappyWarrior

I mean even if all the eight killed were Americans, “You kill Americans, you don’t get Mirandaized.” Huh?

Mirandize him, try him, convict him, then execute him. Or lock him in a supermax cell on 23/hour a day lockdown for the rest of his life. This isn’t rocket science.

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b_sharp  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:08:19am

re: #42 Belafon

Images of our yard today, after getting everything out, before it got dark.

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Makes mine look pedestrian.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:08:45am

re: #487 electrotek

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Why hasn’t Twitter banned this bigot yet?

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Skip Intro  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:09:28am

re: #503 ObserverArt

But then there is Ivanka.

Who knows, maybe Donny breaks up the entire family over all of this.

Choosing sides in the White House. It is the newest game!

Jared’s investment partners Vornado are about to send his 666 Fifth plans to the bottom of the sea. Maybe Ivanka’s looking for a new sugar daddy. All she has to do is get rid of Melon.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:19:40am

re: #509 Backwoods_Sleuth

President Trump labels the US justice system a “laughing stock” cnn.com pic.twitter.com
— CNN Politics

Well that is true, disparity in sentencing for drug cases, ultra high rates of imprisonment relative to other developed countries, countless numbers of improperly convicted individuals whose cases were later overturned by DNA evidence and…oh wait, you mean that isn’t what he means?

////

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:21:37am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:22:44am

re: #511 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

You’d think they’d have the decency to not walk around in hijabs @ cross street of the attack. But they don’t. I bet they’re loving this.

because a hijab is nothing more than a terrorist rallying symbol in the minds of these bigots

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:23:53am
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jaunte  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:25:10am

Crazy president* surrounded by mad incompetents, giving insane advice.

“….Roger Stone believes defunding Mueller isn’t enough. Instead, Stone wants Trump to call for a special prosecutor to investigate Hillary Clinton’s role in approving the controversial Uranium One deal that’s been a locus of rightwing hysteria (the transaction involved a Russian state-owned energy firm acquiring a Canadian mining company that controlled 20 percent of the uranium in the United States). It’s a bit of a bank shot, but as Stone described it, a special prosecutor looking into Uranium One would also have to investigate the F.B.I.’s role in approving the deal, thereby making Mueller—who was in charge of the bureau at the time—a target. Stone’s choice for a special prosecutor: Rudy Giuliani law colleague Marc Mukasey or Fox News pundit Andrew Napolitano. “You would immediately have to inform Mueller, Comey, and [Deputy Attorney General] Rod Rosenstein that they are under federal investigation,” Stone said. “Trump can’t afford to fire Mueller politically. But this pushes him aside.”
vanityfair.com

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:27:33am

re: #523 jaunte

Instead, Stone wants Trump to call for a special prosecutor to investigate Hillary Clinton’s role in approving the controversial Uranium One deal that’s been a locus of rightwing hysteria (the transaction involved a Russian state-owned energy firm acquiring a Canadian mining company that controlled 20 percent of the uranium in the United States). It’s a bit of a bank shot, but as Stone described it, a special prosecutor looking into Uranium One would also have to investigate the F.B.I.’s role in approving the deal, thereby making Mueller—who was in charge of the bureau at the time—a target. Stone’s choice for a special prosecutor: Rudy Giuliani law colleague Marc Mukasey or Fox News pundit Andrew Napolitano

So you’re saying Stone wants to create a yuuuuge giant clusterfruckmonster in the middle of the nation’s political and governing system.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:30:16am

re: #524 Sir John Barron

“Judge Nap Quizzes Mueller, Tonight On Fox”

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:30:38am
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FormerDirtDart  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:32:52am
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:33:06am

re: #523 jaunte

Crazy president* surrounded by mad incompetents, giving insane advice.

Not Judge Ducklips? She will be SOO PISSED!!!!!!

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JordanRules  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:33:31am

Former police chief said black people are ‘like ISIS’ and he’d like to be ‘on the firing squad,’ feds say

The former chief of a small township in New Jersey has been arrested on federal hate crime and civil rights charges for what federal authorities described as a pattern of racist comments and behavior — including slamming an African American teen’s head into a metal door jamb and saying that black people are “like ISIS.”

Frank Nucera Jr., 60, who had been chief of the Bordentown Township Police Department, was arrested Monday, and the charges against him were unsealed Tuesday. The allegations are notable for the blatant racism they describe in a law enforcement leader.

washingtonpost.com

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:33:33am

We had this discussion going back decades, and I can pretty recall what should happen with terrorists.

Captured overseas, they get military tribunals because constitutional protections and evidence gathering was insufficient to meet civil criminal justice standards.

Captured on US soil? They get processed through civilian criminal justice system, including the protections under the Constitution against self incrimination, right to counsel, etc.

It’s worked in prosecutions against dozens of terrorists captured here in the US. This is no different.

Why treat this guy any different than the domestic terrorist who drove through crowd in Charlottesville? That white supremacist was part of a dangerous group intent on doing harm to America and a large number of American citizens. He was radicalized here in the US by right wing agitprop that swap out names and places would be almost indistinguishable from the extremists anywhere else in the world (including the Islamic terrorists that the GOP loses their shit over).

Once the person is incarcerated, that’s it. They’re in prison - and we’re not denying anyone their civil rights or abrogating the Constitution to do it.

The GOP has given up its claim to support and defend the constitution with this crap. They aren’t even trying; they’re just an authoritarian party intent on ramming their agenda through without regard to the consequences.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:33:56am

Further update on Zeena the Worrier Princess - we have our old chowhound back! She’s starting to gain back all the weight she lost, she’s active, and of course, she’s deliriously happy that Mrs. FBW is home again (as am I).

Here she is, 20 minutes after dinner, demanding more dinner.

FEED ME, HUMAN!!!

The ear thing - she seems to always do that when she’s hungry. Must be semaphore.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:34:34am

re: #529 JordanRules

Former police chief said black people are ‘like ISIS’ and he’d like to be ‘on the firing squad,’ feds say

washingtonpost.com

But why kneel.//

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:35:31am

re: #526 FormerDirtDart

! Ryan said he’d let Trump name the tax bill but Trump wants to name it The Cut Cut Cut Act so now they’re stuck
— Daniel Dale

Ryan on phone to Boehner: What the frock do I do now? The loony in the WH wants to call it the Cut, Cut, Act?

Boehner (laughing in background): You could create a phony bill called the Cut, Cut, Cut Act, which doesn’t do anything. He won’t know the difference. Or just name it whatever you want and trust that Trump won’t remember what he wanted to call it anyway.

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:35:48am
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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:36:07am

re: #526 FormerDirtDart

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:36:31am

re: #529 JordanRules

Former police chief said black people are ‘like ISIS’ and he’d like to be ‘on the firing squad,’ feds say

washingtonpost.com

The good news is that law enforcement continues to deal with monsters despite a monster in the White House. We’re also seeing a lot of harassers go down. The toxic-right continues to lose ground.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:37:27am

re: #527 FormerDirtDart

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Now contrast that with Reagan and Trump.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:37:43am

re: #535 lawhawk

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Can’t wait for the Nazi Alt-Right to start calling it the Cuck, Cuck, Cuck Act.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:39:36am

re: #535 lawhawk

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Ask a stupid question person, you get a stupid answer.

Holy shit. It’s like he’s 5 years old.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:41:25am

re: #539 Blind Frog Belly White

Ask a stupid question person, you get a stupid answer.

Holy shit. It’s like he’s 5 years old.

He’s entered his adult diaper years.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:42:51am

re: #540 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

He’s entered his adult diaper years.

So, he’s becoming Depend-able?

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:42:57am

re: #530 lawhawk

We had this discussion going back decades, and I can pretty recall what should happen with terrorists.

Captured overseas, they get military tribunals because constitutional protections and evidence gathering was insufficient to meet civil criminal justice standards.

Captured on US soil? They get processed through civilian criminal justice system, including the protections under the Constitution against self incrimination, right to counsel, etc.

It’s worked in prosecutions against dozens of terrorists captured here in the US. This is no different.

Why treat this guy any different than the domestic terrorist who drove through crowd in Charlottesville? That white supremacist was part of a dangerous group intent on doing harm to America and a large number of American citizens. He was radicalized here in the US by right wing agitprop that swap out names and places would be almost indistinguishable from the extremists anywhere else in the world (including the Islamic terrorists that the GOP loses their shit over).

Once the person is incarcerated, that’s it. They’re in prison - and we’re not denying anyone their civil rights or abrogating the Constitution to do it.

The GOP has given up its claim to support and defend the constitution with this crap. They aren’t even trying; they’re just an authoritarian party intent on ramming their agenda through without regard to the consequences.

Even FOX’s own Andrew Napolitano is throwing up a big ass STOP sign on this nonsense.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:44:45am

re: #542 FormerDirtDart

Even FOX’s own Andrew Napolitano is throwing up a big ass STOP sign on this nonsense.

When you lose Judge Nap….

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:45:07am

re: #534 lawhawk

“…Republicans are not moved. Top Republicans on the committees probing Russian election meddling say this week’s developments do not change their investigation, nor do they add up to collusion.
“I’m not sure that it changes anything for our investigation,” Burr said. “I don’t think the indictments were a surprise to any of us who had been involved in the investigation for nine months.”
“It looks to me like it’s disconnected from what we’re looking at,” said Sen. Jim Risch of Idaho, another senior Republican on the intelligence panel”

They better get their heads out of the sand.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:46:50am

re: #542 FormerDirtDart

Even FOX’s own Andrew Napolitano is throwing up a big ass STOP sign on this nonsense.

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I don’t like Nap but that’s not surprising from him.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:48:13am

re: #544 jaunte

They better get their heads out of the sand.

After Trump is indicted:

Top GOP committees: Not surprising, doesn’t change our investigations, not even related really.

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ericblair  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:48:16am

re: #534 lawhawk

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s moves complicate the Russia investigations on Capitol Hill cnn.it

It’s complicating the goopers’ plans to shove it all under the rug, yes. It’s interfering with their ability to not see shit that’s directly in front of their eyes.

I expect we’ll see a couple of congresscritters being marched off before this thing is through as well.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:49:09am

re: #546 Sir John Barron

“Another troubled loner, nothing to do with anything else.”

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:49:17am

re: #544 jaunte

Republicans are not moved

Well, it’s not like we’re talking about felony email possession here.

///

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 1, 2017 • 11:49:33am

re: #459 Backwoods_Sleuth

hoo boy…

[Embedded content]

Trump’s lawyer Ty Cobb has been advocating the view that playing ball will lead to a quick resolution

I’m not even a baseball fan and I see what they did there.

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electrotek  Nov 1, 2017 • 3:07:11pm

Even Lauren Southern of all people has called her out


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