WaPo-ABC Poll: Nearly Half of Americans Believe Donald Trump Is Probably a Criminal

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A new ABC News/Washington Post poll has some pretty stunning results that aren’t going to make our so-called president happy: nearly half of Americans think Trump committed a crime during the 2016 campaign.

Other interesting findings: a majority approves of Robert Mueller’s investigation, most believe Trump isn’t cooperating, and most believe the alleged wrongdoing doesn’t end at Paul Manafort and George Papadopoulos.

A 58 percent majority say they approve of Mueller’s handling of the investigation while 28 percent say they disapprove, the Post-ABC poll finds. People’s views depend in large part on their political leanings, but overall, Americans are generally inclined to trust Mueller and the case he has made so far.

Meanwhile, fewer than 4 in 10 Americans say they believe Trump is cooperating with Mueller’s investigation, while about half believe he is not.

Just in: pedestrians in Washington DC report hearing a series of blood-curdling screams coming from the direction of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue tonight.

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312 comments

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ajcharnc  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:22:01pm

Just probably?

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:23:38pm

Somewhere in the depths of Hell, Tricky Dick laughs his ass off that he soon won’t be the biggest disgrace to ever sit in the Oval Office.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:23:46pm

This is me, really fucking disappointed in Elizabeth Warren. What the hell was she thinking by co-signing the idea that the DNC “rigged” the primaries so Hillary could win? Is she TRYING to give ammunition to Trump and the right wing media?

I swear to hell, Democrats continue to be their own worst enemies. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:25:28pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

This is me, really fucking disappointed in Elizabeth Warren. What the hell was she thinking by co-signing the idea that the DNC “rigged” the primaries so Hillary could win? Is she TRYING to give ammunition to Trump and the right wing media?

I swear to hell, Democrats continue to be their own worst enemies. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Ditto. I never saw her as Presidential material the way many did but I liked her but this really sours me on her because A) She knows it’s crap and B) It’s nothing but a pander to the same Bros who turned on her after she endorsed HRC last year.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:25:40pm
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Citizen K  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:26:16pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

This is me, really fucking disappointed in Elizabeth Warren. What the hell was she thinking by co-signing the idea that the DNC “rigged” the primaries so Hillary could win? Is she TRYING to give ammunition to Trump and the right wing media?

I swear to hell, Democrats continue to be their own worst enemies. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Like I said, we manage to learn almost the exact wrong lesson out of everything, it feels like.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:26:34pm

The other half thinks that Clinton is a criminal, despite there being no evidence to support that, while there’s a lot to indicate Trump is a criminal.

I have a bad feeling that we’re going to wind up like Bosnia, with people killing their neighbors.

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JordanRules  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:27:21pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Why even entertain that line of questioning? She should’ve been only talking about the tax racket we are about to fight tooth and nail.

WTH was she thinking!?!?

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451_Montag  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:28:18pm

The poll should really be nearly half of Americans admit they believe Trump is a criminal. Pretty sure there is a decent proportion who simply don’t care, and another nice chunk who are too embarrassed at being conned to admit it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:28:57pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:29:51pm

re: #8 JordanRules

Why even entertain that line of questioning? She should’ve been only talking about the tax racket we are about to fight tooth and nail.

WTH was she thinking!?!?

She wants Sanders’ voters when she likely runs in 2020.

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Jack Burton  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:29:54pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

When I saw that alert from CNN pop up on my phone I almost said out loud: “Really not helpful!”

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gocart mozart  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:30:41pm

I tried Papa Johns once. Once. It was the worst pizza I ever had. Why anyone would by that crap (pizza hut, domino’s only slghtly better) is beyond me. Buy from some local independant pizzeria, pay the extra fucking dollar and get much better pizza. Most deliver too.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:30:45pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:30:47pm

re: #11 HappyWarrior

She wants Sanders’ voters when she likely runs in 2020.

At the cost of losing everyone else. Bad move. I thought she was smarter than that.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:31:02pm

And of course Sanders’ PAC led by Nina Turner is fundraising off of Brazille’s excerpt and this. I mean if that PAC were working to help get all Democrats elected they could fine but Sanders and Turner aren’t about that.

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:31:33pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

This is me, really fucking disappointed in Elizabeth Warren. What the hell was she thinking by co-signing the idea that the DNC “rigged” the primaries so Hillary could win? Is she TRYING to give ammunition to Trump and the right wing media?

I swear to hell, Democrats continue to be their own worst enemies. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Nothing quite like fueling “Dems in Disarray” headlines for the next month, right?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:32:07pm

re: #15 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

At the cost of losing everyone else. Bad move. I thought she was smarter than that.

I thought so too. Sanderites accuse the party of taking them for granted. I say they shit on the center-left and the vast majority of registered Democrats who preferred that Hillary be the nominee in 2016. I had no objection to them raising issues they feel important because to be honest, I feel a lot of those issues are important too.

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JordanRules  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:32:44pm

re: #15 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I did too but she did have the nerve to call out Obama’s speaking fees.

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:33:26pm

re: #15 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

At the cost of losing everyone else. Bad move. I thought she was smarter than that.

As did I, but I forgot that the “progressive” wing suddenly adopted a motto that Chris Rock meant as a joke: “It’s all white, it’s alright.”

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:33:30pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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“may be”?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:33:34pm

Who will Berners blame when he’s crushed by Trump in 2020?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:33:42pm

re: #17 Targetpractice

Nothing quite like fueling “Dems in Disarray” headlines for the next month, right?

Hopefully we flip NJ and retain VA’s governor race but damn it, why. We have the most unpopular first year President ever and our former chair and one of our most popular with the base Senators wants to fuel up bitter blood by a bunch of people who aren’t even associated with the party? Stop pandering to the Bros and stop letting Sanders use the party for his own selfish ends.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:34:00pm

re: #22 GlutenFreeJesus

Who will Berners blame when he’s crushed by Trump in 2020?

“Neo-libs.”

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JordanRules  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:34:05pm

re: #22 GlutenFreeJesus

People with “identities”.

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BeachDem  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:34:37pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Done and done—a small price to pay for a sane sanctuary. Thank you, Charles.

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Nyet  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:35:05pm

Let’s face it, Warren’s “Native American” faux pas, however innocent it might be (and that really depends on her integrity, something which she’s just put into doubt) is a stumbling block because there is no catchy two-word way to explain it away.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:35:19pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

…too much?

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:35:27pm

Day after stories come out showing a chunk of the Bro population on social media were Russian trolls, we get this ass-covering article from a woman invested in revising history to explain how in the fuck the party spent money it was given on GOTV efforts in ways that made no difference to the final results.

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freetoken  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:37:05pm

“Nearly half” is … disappointing, frankly.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:37:07pm
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dangerman  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:37:37pm

re: #13 gocart mozart

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I tried Papa Johns once. Once. It was the worst pizza I ever had. Why anyone would by that crap (pizza hut, domino’s only slghtly better) is beyond me. Buy from some local independant pizzeria, pay the extra fucking dollar and get much better pizza. Most deliver too.

i am impressed by a man willing to lose $70m for his convictions!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:37:38pm

re: #25 JordanRules

People with “identities”.

To be honest, I’m really starting to see why people call some lefties condescending and patronizing because many lefties especially in the Sanders camp are to women and PoC. The way Sanders dismissed PP endorsing Clinton over him was insulting. “Oh they’re establishment.” I mean I know he has a good record on choice but he doesn’t see being pro choice as a huge issue the way Clinton and many other Democrats have. And it’s why he was honestly rightfully criticized for what happened in Omaha. I understand that area is more anti-abortion but who the hell is he to tell Omaha women to let their concerns about choice go because of his candidate. That’s the thing. He wants ideological purity for his issue but gets mad when the party has standards too.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:37:55pm

re: #26 BeachDem

Done and done—a small price to pay for a sane sanctuary. Thank you, Charles.

Thank you so much!

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JordanRules  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:38:21pm

re: #29 Targetpractice

Hellooooo!!!!!!

That timing did not escape me. Hmph.

What’s good Tad Devine?

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:38:39pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

This is me, really fucking disappointed in Elizabeth Warren. What the hell was she thinking by co-signing the idea that the DNC “rigged” the primaries so Hillary could win? Is she TRYING to give ammunition to Trump and the right wing media?

I swear to hell, Democrats continue to be their own worst enemies. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

What she did is absolutely pointless and stupid. The primaries are over. If she truly feels that they were rigged in Secretary Clinton’s favor, she should take these beliefs and work with the DNC to ensure that rigging doesn’t take place in the future. She should keep these beliefs private since broadcasting them does nothing to help Democrats at this point in time.

I have no idea what she thinks she’s accomplishing right now. Beyond bizarre.

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:39:56pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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I can certainly see part of Mueller’s strategy here. He’s building a case in the court of public opinion against Jeff Sessions before he ever indicts the man.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:40:00pm

re: #27 Nyet

Let’s face it, Warren’s “Native American” faux pas, however innocent it might be (and that really depends on her integrity, something which she’s just put into doubt) is a stumbling block because there is no catchy two-word way to explain it away.

Yeah as a family genealogist, I get falling for family lore but that was something that they’d and in fact have had a field day with. TBH though Sergey, my worry with her was that she flat out admitted she wasn’t interested in foreign powers. All the Dem nominees and heavyweights I can remember: Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Obama, H. Clinton, and Biden were keenly interested in FP. Sanders and Warren really never got my interest too much to begin with because they’re too isolationist in focus.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:41:37pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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Le Plot Thickens.

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Skip Intro  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:41:46pm

re: #36 Patricia Kayden

I have no idea what she thinks she’s accomplishing right now. Beyond bizarre.

She probably tossed VA to the GOP, for starters.

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BeachDem  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:42:18pm

re: #36 Patricia Kayden

What she did is absolutely pointless and stupid. The primaries are over. If she truly feels that they were rigged in Secretary Clinton’s favor, she should take these beliefs and work with the DNC to ensure that rigging doesn’t take place in the future. She should keep these beliefs private since broadcasting them does nothing to help Democrats at this point in time.

I have no idea what she thinks she’s accomplishing right now. Beyond bizarre.

And the Berners among the KosKids are lapping it up. I read about 4 minutes of comments then had to shut it down as it was making me sick to my stomach.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:42:31pm

re: #40 Skip Intro

She probably tossed VA to the GOP, for starters.

I don’t know about that necessarily. It’s not like this state was a big Sanders state. It didn’t help though.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:43:11pm

re: #41 BeachDem

And the Berners among the KosKids are lapping it up. I read about 4 minutes of comments then had to shut it down as it was making me sick to my stomach.

I see it a lot in my TL because a lot of my old lefty friends are huge Berners. It’s frustrating. Bernie is a saint to many of them. They refuse to see how divisive he’s been.

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Skip Intro  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:43:25pm

re: #42 HappyWarrior

From what I’m reading the race is really tightening up. Crap like this can’t help.

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:43:25pm

What I see in the article and excerpts of Brazile’s book is a woman heavily invested in CYA. According to it all, she was always a Bernie supporter and felt he got fucked by the party, she thought it was wrong that Hillary used money she gave the party to exercise a measure of control, and she thinks the whole thing was “rigged” even though she says aloud she could find no evidence of such.

Amazingly, Bros are forgetting they wanted her burned in effigy for giving debate questions to Hillary.

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JordanRules  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:44:46pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:44:56pm

re: #44 Skip Intro

From what I’m reading the race is really tightening up. Crap like this can’t help.

I don’t disagree with that assessment. It definitely doesn’t help. It’s been tightening up though for some time. I like Northam but I’ve been a bit disappointed by some of his campaign.

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Skip Intro  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:45:02pm

re: #45 Targetpractice

Apparently the Dems have no solid convictions. Now the Republicans, they have a lot of solid convictions, all revolving around how to screw the most people and profit from it.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:45:41pm

re: #40 Skip Intro

She probably tossed VA to the GOP, for starters.

Please don’t say that. I’m hoping Democrats aren’t so stupid that they’ll let whatever the hell she was saying stop them from voting for Northam and Herring. Gillespie and Adams are horrible people. I notice that Gillespie’s ads shown in the DMV (D.C., Maryland, Northern Virginia) are full of lies but steer clear of “heritage” and statues talk. So he’s being slick by showing ads that are geared towards the pro-Confederate voters in Southern Virginia while not showing them to the Northern Virginia voters who he knows are more liberal/progressive.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:45:46pm

re: #46 JordanRules

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Yep, Gillespie has pretty much embraced the Stewart playbook which by the way has probably played a role in why this race has tightened. The GOP rank and file are starting to like Ed more as he panders to racism.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:46:07pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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Trump hates Sessions and will chunk him under the bus to get a toadie in there who will try and silence Mueller.

Sessions is trapped.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:47:02pm

re: #45 Targetpractice

What I see in the article and excerpts of Brazile’s book is a woman heavily invested in CYA. According to it all, she was always a Bernie supporter and felt he got fucked by the party, she thought it was wrong that Hillary used money she gave the party to exercise a measure of control, and she thinks the whole thing was “rigged” even though she says aloud she could find no evidence of such.

Amazingly, Bros are forgetting they wanted her burned in effigy for giving debate questions to Hillary.

They hated her and thought she couldn’t be trusted at all when she replaced DWS. She writes a book and now it’s “Let’s take her at every word she says” as she writes a narrative that makes us feel better that we supported that guy who has done very little since November to get Dems elected.

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JordanRules  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:48:38pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:50:04pm

re: #53 JordanRules

Trump doesn’t care about the creation of an oligarchy. He’d welcome that.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:50:43pm

re: #49 Patricia Kayden

Please don’t say that. I’m hoping Democrats aren’t so stupid that they’ll let whatever the hell she was saying stop them from voting for Northam and Herring. Gillespie and Adams are horrible people. I notice that Gillespie’s ads shown in the DMV (D.C., Maryland, Northern Virginia) are full of lies but steer clear of “heritage” and statues talk. So he’s being slick by showing ads that are geared towards the pro-Confederate voters in Southern Virginia while not showing them to the Northern Virginia voters who he knows are more liberal/progressive.

Yeah we’ve mostly gotten his attacks on Northam’s immigration policy here but not the attacks on Ralph, a native Virginian by the way for “running away from his heritage.” Ed’s from fucking New Jersey but then again our biggest race baiters on the GOP side have always been out of staters: George Allen- Californian, Corey Stewart- Minnesotan, and now Ed who’s from Jersey. Interestingly our sane Republicans on racial matters like John Warner and Tim Kaine’s father in law, former Governor Holton are Virginia natives.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:51:23pm

re: #53 JordanRules

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They both are. Putin is attempting to control who we vote for at the polls that could help fix the inequality problems.

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JordanRules  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:51:44pm

re: #54 Patricia Kayden

Right which is why it’s the goal of his tax plan. He’ll be the big puba of the oligarchs.

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Skip Intro  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:52:01pm

re: #53 JordanRules

No kidding.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:52:56pm

re: #54 Patricia Kayden

Trump doesn’t care about the creation of an oligarchy. He’d welcome that.

As long as he can pretend that he is richer than the rest of them

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gocart mozart  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:53:15pm

re: #48 Skip Intro

Apparently the Dems have no solid convictions. Now the Republicans, they have a lot of solid convictions, all revolving around how to screw the most people and profit from it.

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

The Second Coming
W. B. Yeats, 1865 - 1939

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TedStriker  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:53:39pm

re: #28 Ace-o-aces

…too much?

i prefer Vir Cotto’s version…

Vir Cotto Is A Badass

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:53:56pm

re: #60 gocart mozart

The Second Coming
W. B. Yeats, 1865 - 1939

My favorite poet.

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:53:58pm

Of course, the other way to read Warren’s “Yes” is that it’s a continuation of the efforts by the party to push the loss last year totally onto Hillary’s shoulders. They did the same shit after 2010: “We didn’t fail to support our candidates, we lost big because of Obama!” They’re turning Hillary into the source of all their ills, when the reality is that the party rested on its laurels after 2008 and suffered for it. It thought that it only had to get and keep Obama in the White House and the money would just keep flowing in.

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TedStriker  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:54:12pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Whoo-boy!

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LastYearsMan  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:54:29pm

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Hey, Seoul has a couple of Trump Towers. I got this.” -Don T (likely)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:54:38pm

re: #63 Targetpractice

Of course, the other way to read Warren’s “Yes” is that it’s a continuation of the efforts by the party to push the loss last year totally onto Hillary’s shoulders. They did the same shit after 2010: “We didn’t fail to support our candidates, we lost big because of Obama!” They’re turning Hillary into the source of all their ills, when the reality is that the party rested on its laurels after 2008 and suffered for it. It thought that it only had to get and keep Obama in the White House and the money would just keep flowing in.

Yep.

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ObserverArt  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:54:43pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

This is me, really fucking disappointed in Elizabeth Warren. What the hell was she thinking by co-signing the idea that the DNC “rigged” the primaries so Hillary could win? Is she TRYING to give ammunition to Trump and the right wing media?

I swear to hell, Democrats continue to be their own worst enemies. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

We all have to attempt to contact her and tell her how we feel.

We need to put some oomph into this party and one way is to make people pay for being stupid.

Email Elizabeth

Donna Brazile needs to hear it too.

Brazile Associates Contact Form

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:56:41pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Not as active as I would like/used to be but still contributing. This site is one of the sanest to come to.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:57:12pm

GDF has always done a wonderful job I think explaining and exposing how patronizing these people are and how they are inherently anti-Democratic in many of their attitudes and actions. That was something I saw last summer when I saw the Sanders supporters I know trying to get the DNC to hand the nomination to Sanders despite you know Hillary beat him by over 3 million votes. I feel bad for Clinton. There’s this bs lie that “nobody likes her” but yet she beat both Trump and Sanders in the popular vote. People do like her and not everyone loves them.

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JordanRules  Nov 2, 2017 • 4:57:36pm

re: #67 ObserverArt

Thanks ObserverArt. I will write something tomorrow or late tonight when I’m not as pissed and prone to cuss them out. LOL

I’ve responded to tweets with Liz on it tho. Teeheehee

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:00:20pm

Pete Daou makes a great point on his Twitter. This is taking away from the fact that HRC became the first woman nominated by a major party.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:00:57pm

re: #67 ObserverArt

Thank you for that! Sent her a long message. Hope she gets flooded with them.

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JordanRules  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:01:44pm
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scottslemmons  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:03:15pm

At this point, I’m really disappointed that the 2020 election will probably be Trump vs. Bernie — and it’ll turn out exactly as disastrous as we’d expect. Bernie out of his element, the RNC dropping all the oppo research they’ve picked up on him, the Bernie-or-Busters showing their true colors and flipping to support Trump, and the election turning out even worse than anticipated, even without more Russian hacking. And with our luck, it won’t even shut up Bernie’s True Believers.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:03:45pm

Why I became a HRC fan? Aside from learning about her. I got tired of other men like myself talking down to her as if she’d accomplished nothing in her life and her successes were only because of who her husband was. As the son of a mother who was the breadwinner in the family and a mother who became only the first woman in her immediate family to attain a college degree, I’m definitely sensitive to the idea that women need men or their husbands to be accomplished. I love my Dad but my Mom’s career accomplishments are hers.

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gocart mozart  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:03:55pm

A good, not stupid, article by Ta-Nehisi Coates

For the past 50 years, some of this country’s most celebrated historians have taken up the task of making Americans less stupid about the Civil War. These historians have been more effective than generally realized. It’s worth remembering that General Kelly’s remarks, which were greeted with mass howls of protests, reflected the way much of this country’s stupid-ass intellectual class once understood the Civil War. I do not contend that this improved history has solved everything. But it is a ray of light cutting through the gloom of stupid. You should run to that light. Embrace it. Bathe in it. Become it.

Okay, maybe that’s too far. Let’s start with just being less stupid.

theatlantic.com

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:04:47pm

re: #74 scottslemmons

At this point, I’m really disappointed that the 2020 election will probably be Trump vs. Bernie — and it’ll turn out exactly as disastrous as we’d expect. Bernie out of his element, the RNC dropping all the oppo research they’ve picked up on him, the Bernie-or-Busters showing their true colors and flipping to support Trump, and the election turning out even worse than anticipated, even without more Russian hacking. And with our luck, it won’t even shut up Bernie’s True Believers.

I don’t think Bernie will be the nominee in 2020 TBH. I think a lot of Bernie’s shine will come off with more Democrats in a primary. I won’t lie though. I’ll be extremely disappointed if he’s our nominee in 2020. i’ll vote for him but we can do so much better than him.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:05:55pm

re: #76 gocart mozart

A good, not stupid, article by Ta-Nehisi Coates

I need to read that Grant biography. Grant’s reputation outside his military service is rightfully improving in recent years. He did take on the KKK as President and was a strong defender of Reconstruction being implemented. More than you can say about Andrew Johnson or Rutherford B. Hayes who sacrificed it for the Presidency in 1876.

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:07:56pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

The millions of Democrats who voted for Hillary and saw Bernie shit all over her efforts aren’t going to be kind to his next effort to run on a party line that he refuses to join.

And I’m pissed at Warren for feeding this bullshit about the primaries/system being rigged.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:08:23pm

Hi guys, (hope it’s ok to post this here Charles)

I didn’t do this last year but (much to my wife’s inevitable chagrin) I am this year. I’m participating in “No Shave November” in honor of my father-in-law who we lost to cancer several years ago and in honor of my own father who we lost to cancer in february. If you’d like you can donate at the link below.

no-shave.org

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:08:54pm

Trump versus Sanders. Two seventy plus year old white dudes who come off cranky? Yeah, that’s what our country wants in its most diverse electorate as we face a new decade. Gimme a badass like Tammy Duckworth, a crusader for justice like Kamala Harris, or someone willing to take on the criminal justice system like Corey Booker over Bernie who is frankly still fighting the 20th century.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:09:14pm

re: #79 lawhawk

The millions of Democrats who voted for Hillary and saw Bernie shit all over her efforts aren’t going to be kind to his next effort to run on a party line that he refuses to join.

And I’m pissed at Warren for feeding this bullshit about the primaries/system being rigged.

Ditto that!

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JordanRules  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:10:43pm
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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:10:45pm

re: #81 HappyWarrior

I’d take any number of Democrats over Sanders.

Cory Booker.
Ted Lieu.
Kamala Harris.
Kristen Gillibrand.

And until today, I would have considered Warren, but her comments do the party no favors (and are a flat out lie about what actually happened).

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scottslemmons  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:11:27pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

I don’t think Bernie will be the nominee in 2020 TBH. I think a lot of Bernie’s shine will come off with more Democrats in a primary. I won’t lie though. I’ll be extremely disappointed if he’s our nominee in 2020. i’ll vote for him but we can do so much better than him.

It’ll be really, really difficult to fight off my impulse to write in Hillary’s name on my ballot.

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JordanRules  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:11:52pm

re: #83 JordanRules

Just started reading the replies. LOL!!!!!

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:12:00pm

OFFS

Sen. Warren, you’re not doing yourselves any favors here. Either say that you were wrong or stand by what you said.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:12:08pm

re: #84 lawhawk

I’d take any number of Democrats over Sanders.

Cory Booker.
Ted Lieu.
Kamala Harris.
Kristen Gillibrand.

And until today, I would have considered Warren, but her comments do the party no favors (and are a flat out lie about what actually happened).

I like Kirsten too. I’d like Lieu too but unfortunately I think he’d be ineligible given he was born in Taiwan. It’s too because I really like him. Perhaps, he runs for DiFi’s seat when she retires.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:12:57pm

sigh…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:13:01pm

re: #85 scottslemmons

It’ll be really, really difficult to fight off my impulse to write in Hillary’s name on my ballot.

I’d vote for him but I wouldn’t be happy about it. 18 months ago, I’d be thrilled to vote for him. Now much less so, I’ve come to really dislike what he’s created and really don’t like what he’s taught many young people about politics.

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scottslemmons  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:13:33pm

re: #83 JordanRules

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:13:39pm

re: #87 Targetpractice

OFFS

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Sen. Warren, you’re not doing yourselves any favors here. Either say that you were wrong or stand by what you said.

She’s not going to make anyone happy with that.

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Kragar  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:14:26pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:14:42pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:15:12pm

re: #83 JordanRules

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:16:03pm

re: #92 HappyWarrior

She’s not going to make anyone happy with that.

Best way to answer that question: “Jake, ‘rigged’ is a loaded word. I believe the DNC favored Clinton, but I also know that it had no real effect on the Primaries, which were free and fair, and which Secretary Clinton won by a wide margin.”

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Kragar  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:16:22pm
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JordanRules  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:17:08pm

re: #91 scottslemmons

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:17:32pm

re: #84 lawhawk

I’d take any number of Democrats over Sanders.

Cory Booker.
Ted Lieu.
Kamala Harris.
Kristen Gillibrand.

And until today, I would have considered Warren, but her comments do the party no favors (and are a flat out lie about what actually happened).

My preference in bold.

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JordanRules  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:18:19pm

re: #96 Blind Frog Belly White

No. Jake, I’m here to talk about this tax giveaway to the top 1%…

That’s it. Don’t even entertain it.

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William Lewis  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:18:22pm

re: #84 lawhawk

I’d take any number of Democrats over Sanders.

Cory Booker.
Ted Lieu.
Kamala Harris.
Kristen Gillibrand.

And until today, I would have considered Warren, but her comments do the party no favors (and are a flat out lie about what actually happened).

Tammy Baldwin is damn good too.

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gocart mozart  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:20:52pm
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TedStriker  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:23:25pm

re: #84 lawhawk

I’d take any number of Democrats over Sanders.

Cory Booker.
Ted Lieu.
Kamala Harris.
Kristen Gillibrand.

And until today, I would have considered Warren, but her comments do the party no favors (and are a flat out lie about what actually happened).

I’d agree with you on all of the above (excepting Lieu, since he’s constitutionally ineligible), except Booker; with him being a Senator in your neck of the woods, you’d know more than me, but hasn’t Booker been showing some Bernie-like traits towards the party lately?

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:23:36pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:26:43pm

re: #100 JordanRules

No. Jake, I’m here to talk about this tax giveaway to the top 1%…

That’s it. Don’t even entertain it.

That’s one approach, but that dodging bothers me, because you see Kellyanne doing it all the time. I think you prepare an answer that’s clear, and cuts off further discussion. Warren got too loose with her words there, and these intraparty squabbles require verbal discipline.

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gocart mozart  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:27:17pm

re: #101 William Lewis

Cory Booker.
Ted Lieu.
Kamala Harris.
Kristen Gillibrand.

Ted Lieu was born in Taiwan, not a natural born citizen.

I would add …
Franken
Chris Murphy (though he says he is not running)

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:28:04pm

re: #103 TedStriker

Booker’s been staunching anti-Trump; the one area he crosses the aisle is criminal justice reform, where he’s worked with Paul in the past.

Some folks think he’s too cozy with Wall Street which is kinda laughable given that every politician is looking for backing from Wall Street types.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:28:41pm

re: #106 gocart mozart

Cory Booker.
Ted Lieu.
Kamala Harris.
Kristen Gillibrand.

Ted Lieu was born in Taiwan, not a natural born citizen.

I would add …
Franken
Chris Murphy (though he says he is not running)

1. Franken
2. Warren
3. Other

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:28:46pm

re: #106 gocart mozart

Cory Booker.
Ted Lieu.
Kamala Harris.
Kristen Gillibrand.

Ted Lieu was born in Taiwan, not a natural born citizen.

I would add …
Franken
Chris Murphy (though he says he is not running)

I really like Murphy too. I think he’s someone that can be considered for VP. Are any of the Castro brothers considering a run? And I think Xavier Becarra may run too. I’ve heard Jason Kander as a possibility too which I’d be more open to had he won his Senate race last year. Other names I’ve heard are Tulsi Gabbard who I don’t like or trust at all.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:29:22pm

re: #107 lawhawk

Booker’s been staunching anti-Trump; the one area he crosses the aisle is criminal justice reform, where he’s worked with Paul in the past.

Some folks think he’s too cozy with Wall Street which is kinda laughable given that every politician is looking for backing from Wall Street types.

I’m positively drawn to Booker because CJ reform is a big issue to me. He has had some times where he’s rubbed me the wrong way but I generally like Booker.

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:29:46pm

re: #106 gocart mozart

I’ve got an instinctive dislike for Franken. Mrs. Lawhawk had a run in with him in NYC, where he was walking and nearly ran her over and he couldn’t be bothered to apologize. Haven’t forgiven him for that…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:30:27pm

re: #111 lawhawk

I’ve got an instinctive dislike for Franken. Mrs. Lawhawk had a run in with him in NYC, where he was walking and nearly ran her over and he couldn’t be bothered to apologize. Haven’t forgiven him for that…

Damn, that’s too bad. I do like him as a Senator.

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petesh  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:31:01pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Did Dun Dat

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BeachDem  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:31:30pm

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Decatur Deb  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:31:57pm

re: #111 lawhawk

I’ve got an instinctive dislike for Franken. Mrs. Lawhawk had a run in with him in NYC, where he was walking and nearly ran her over and he couldn’t be bothered to apologize. Haven’t forgiven him for that…

New Yorker hogs the sidewalk, blows off apology? That’s inconceivable.

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JordanRules  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:32:27pm

re: #105 Blind Frog Belly White

Okay, if you must answer, then say No and move on to talking about taxes. Keep all that nuance in her head to assuage herself if she feels bad about it and discuss it in more detail with Dems if she wants to clarify what her No meant - then she can use her cleanup statement with Dems.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:32:29pm

re: #115 Decatur Deb

New Yorker hogs the sidewalk, blows off apology? That’s inconceivable.

Dude, Franken’s from Minnesota. They’re supposed to be the nice ones remember?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:33:13pm

re: #117 HappyWarrior

Dude, Franken’s from Minnesota. They’re supposed to be the nice ones remember?

That shit stops at the GWB.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:33:21pm

re: #117 HappyWarrior

He was in a New York frame of mind. ///

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:34:12pm

re: #114 BeachDem

On a positive note (work story)

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:34:16pm

re: #112 HappyWarrior

Damn, that’s too bad. I do like him as a Senator.

Let’s be absolutely clear:
If he were to be the nominee against any GOPer, I’d fight like the devil to make sure he wins.

I’d think long and hard about Warren and Sanders before saying the same. Those two are two-faced.

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jaunte  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:34:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:34:38pm

re: #118 Decatur Deb

That shit stops at the GWB.

Heh if you insist. I just never would think of Franken as a New Yorker.

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JordanRules  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:34:39pm

re: #108 Decatur Deb

Uphill battle with #2

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:35:02pm

re: #121 lawhawk

Let’s be absolutely clear:
If he were to be the nominee against any GOPer, I’d fight like the devil to make sure he wins.

I’d think long and hard about Warren and Sanders before saying the same. Those two are two-faced.

Oh I know.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:35:59pm

re: #122 jaunte

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Somehow, I think he’d have a different tune if any Democratic candidate had said that when running in support of President Obama’s agenda. Sorry Roy, but judges are allowed to disagree with POTUS. That’s not judicial activism despite what your shitty law books tell you.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:36:37pm

re: #124 JordanRules

Uphill battle with #2

We’re Democrats talking about facing a filthy-rich incumbent. Uphill battle for everyone.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:36:39pm

re: #119 PhillyPretzel

He was in a New York frame of mind. ///

Jay-Z knows a lot about that.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:37:08pm

re: #11 HappyWarrior

She wants Sanders’ voters when she likely runs in 2020.

I wouldn’t vote for her.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:38:01pm

re: #129 Patricia Kayden

I wouldn’t vote for her.

I’d in the general but she’s at the bottom of my choices. She wasn’t high even before this to be honest because I just wasn’t sold on her as a presidential candidate.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:38:06pm
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JordanRules  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:38:44pm

re: #127 Decatur Deb
Disagree. She’s super problematic.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:40:13pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

sigh…

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Right, Fuckface, because this tax proposal has no lobbying influence at all….

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gocart mozart  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:40:36pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

I really like Murphy too. I think he’s someone that can be considered for VP.

Fun Fact: Murphy has more political experience than all others on that list.
6 yrs in House
5 yrs in Senate
8 at state level, 1st elected to state house in 1998 at age of 25. 19 years in elected office ZOMG! CAREER POLITICIAN !!!!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:40:47pm

re: #131 Charles Johnson

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Yep. And really bad to do this as the Dems have two important gubernatorial elections that both can be won on Tuesday oto. I think we flip New Jersey but I’m afraid of losing Virginia.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:40:54pm

re: #132 JordanRules

Disagree. She’s super problematic.

Who isn’t? An old, white, politically-adept male.

Biden/Carter 2020.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:40:57pm

Warren won’t survive the first primary.
She probably won’t survive the Iowa caucus.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:41:46pm

re: #118 Decatur Deb

That shit stops at the GWB.

It’s a hard town. You have to harden yourself, or it’ll chew you up and spit you into the East River. Walk fast. Walk with purpose. Don’t look anyone in the eyes, and if you do, say, “What the fuck are YOU looking at?” before they have a chance to.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:41:47pm

re: #134 gocart mozart

Fun Fact: Murphy has more political experience than all others on that list.
6 yrs in House
5 yrs in Senate
8 at state level, 1st elected to state house in 1998 at age of 25. 19 years in elected office ZOMG! CAREER POLITICIAN !!!!

True point! I really like Murphy. Takes on the NRA with great fervor. I only saw him as a VP type though because he hasn’t expressed interest in the main job but he could always change his mind.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:42:12pm
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JordanRules  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:42:33pm

re: #136 Decatur Deb

You see all the suggestions listed who aren’t that? I don’t see them as problematic in the same way.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:42:50pm

I’m seeing my 1st “Happy Holidayz” adds crossing my screen.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:42:58pm

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

Warren won’t survive the first primary.
She probably won’t survive the Iowa caucus.

I was surprised to see how polarizing she is in her own state. She’ll win re-election but I think she’s one of these leaders who are more popular with the party’s activists than the people who know them best.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:43:13pm

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

Warren won’t survive the first primary.
She probably won’t survive the Iowa caucus.

Howard Dean, take two.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:43:16pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

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Thanks Donna and Elizabeth.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:43:23pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

sigh…

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Which lobbyists would be unhappy with huge tax cuts for their corporations? Who is he fooling? The GOP’s tax plan is chock full with goodies for millionaires like Trump while shifting the tax burden to the working class.

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darthstar  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:44:04pm

Half of Americans believe he’s probably a criminal.
Nearly all of them believe he’s an asshole.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:44:26pm
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JordanRules  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:45:23pm

re: #148 Charles Johnson

Whew. Good luck Charles!

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Decatur Deb  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:45:32pm

re: #143 HappyWarrior

I was surprised to see how polarizing she is in her own state. She’ll win re-election but I think she’s one of these leaders who are more popular with the party’s activists than the people who know them best don’t show up on election day..

2016’d that fer ya.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:45:53pm

I’ll be honest. Warren went lower on my list after she admitted that FP doesn’t interest her. I don’t begrudge her that personally though FP does interest me greatly- former FSOE taker here but I want my President to be interested and engaged in the world around me.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:46:12pm

re: #142 Dave In Austin

They’ve been advertising the Sirius XM christmas channel for the past couple weeks. I shuddered when the channel list updated today.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:46:42pm

It’s good that you done that, Twitter! REAL Good!

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:47:08pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

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How about a Democratic Party that has no Clinton nor Sanders’ (though he never was one) influence?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:47:24pm
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austin_blue  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:47:25pm

A lot of folks here are sounding like Bernie Bros and Jillsters from a year ago, which got us Trump. I don’t care if the Dem Nominee in 2020 is a blue dog. I’m voting for the blue dog.

And everyone else has got to do the same damn thing. Even if it is someone who is not a combination St. Francis of Asissi and Mother Teresa, just vote for them. Don’t buy into the Purity Party. It’s a stupid and self-defeating position. Piss and moan all you want during the primaries about the perceived failings of individual candidates, but when crunch times comes, Resist and Unite.

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jaunte  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:47:29pm

re: #153 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s good that you done that, Twitter! REAL Good!

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One brief shining moment.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:47:59pm

re: #150 Decatur Deb

2016’d that fer ya.

I’m just saying. Warren’s voters don’t seem to be in love with the idea of her running for POTUS. And I trust their judgment on her as her constituents. She’s a good senator but I don’t see her as Presidential material really. See my 151. Again, this is all opinion of what I individually look for in a presidential aspirant. and TBH, I prefer her be younger too, she’ll be 71 in 2020. I know that comes off ageist but two seventy plus year olds as nominees just doesn’t seem like it will help GOTV.

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:48:38pm

re: #151 HappyWarrior

I’ll be honest. Warren went lower on my list after she admitted that FP doesn’t interest her. I don’t begrudge her that personally though FP does interest me greatly- former FSOE taker here but I want my President to be interested and engaged in the world around me.

Bernie’s disdain for…well, pretty much everything that wasn’t “free” pretty much turned me off to him as a candidate. He had no interest in foreign policy despite years of supporting every conflict that wasn’t named “Iraq,” his views on domestic policy were indistinguishable from your average libertarians (i.e. “let the states decide”), and he couldn’t give a fuck less about social policy that didn’t circle back to his belief that all social matters were about money. Calling him a “one-trick pony” would be giving him too much credit.

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JordanRules  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:49:26pm

re: #156 austin_blue

People are feeling a little passionate today. :)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:49:30pm

re: #155 Charles Johnson

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From what I read earlier, they had extended a branch to the Sanders people to join up too but Bernie didn’t want to coordinate with the DNC. If Berners want to blame anyone for a lot of their disappointments, they need to start looking more critically at Bernie himself.

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Kragar  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:49:56pm
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JordanRules  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:50:00pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

I think she’s a really good Senator too!

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:50:19pm

re: #155 Charles Johnson

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Let’s ignore that Bernie signed the same document, and the obvious effort Brazile is putting in to putting her failures last year totally onto a woman who did more for the party than Donna did.

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gocart mozart  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:50:41pm

re: #139 HappyWarrior

True point! I really like Murphy. Takes on the NRA with great fervor. I only saw him as a VP type though because he hasn’t expressed interest in the main job but he could always change his mind.

He’s running for re-election in 2018 said “I’m not running for president in 2020”, didn’t say “I have no plans to” or some such. Was my congessman. Great political instincts, wicked smart, Clinton ‘92, Obama level IMHO

Takes on the NRA with great fervor.

His house district included Sandy Hook.

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JordanRules  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:51:38pm

re: #162 Kragar

Lovely.

*Says all the curse words in real life, punches the air*

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Charles Johnson  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:51:59pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:52:04pm

re: #159 Targetpractice

Bernie’s disdain for…well, pretty much everything that wasn’t “free” pretty much turned me off to him as a candidate. He had no interest in foreign policy despite years of supporting every conflict that wasn’t named “Iraq,” his views on domestic policy were indistinguishable from your average libertarians (i.e. “let the states decide”), and he couldn’t give a fuck less about social policy that didn’t circle back to his belief that all social matters were about money. Calling him a “one-trick pony” would be giving him too much credit.

Well I was talking about Warren. I agree with you on Bernie. I will point out that he did oppose GWI though. Where he lost me was showing himself to be insensitive on those issues he and his supporters deride as “identity politics.” I just found it patronizing as hell from a guy living in a state 95% white to tell PoC that their issues are “distractions.” And I’ll be honest, even though I’m no New Yorker, I got really annoyed when he took umbridge to Ted Cruz’s “New York values” comment, on Larry Whitmore. He- Bernie chose to leave New York. Hillary chose to go to it. I consider her a better representative of what it means to be a New Yorker than Burlington Bernie.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:53:00pm

re: #164 Targetpractice

Let’s ignore that Bernie signed the same document, and the obvious effort Brazile is putting in to putting her failures last year totally onto a woman who did more for the party than Donna did.

BernieBros must be so confused. Up until this morning the were supposed to HATE Donna Brazile with the white-hot heat of 1000 suns for being THE examplar of the Democratic Establishment. And now they’re supposed to love her for Finally Telling The Truth!!!

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:53:23pm

Trump bitching about a lame Justice Department.

Bye Sessions.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:53:31pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:53:52pm

re: #165 gocart mozart

He’s running for re-election in 2018 said “I’m not running for president in 2020”, didn’t say “I have no plans to” or some such. Was my congessman. Great political instincts, wicked smart, Clinton ‘92, Obama level IMHO

Thanks, I’ll look more into him and look at the kind of legislation he’s focused his attention on over the years.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:54:08pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:54:16pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

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More projection than a 20-screen Cineplex.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:54:38pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

I’m just saying. Warren’s voters don’t seem to be in love with the idea of her running for POTUS. And I trust their judgment on her as her constituents. She’s a good senator but I don’t see her as Presidential material really. See my 151. Again, this is all opinion of what I individually look for in a presidential aspirant. and TBH, I prefer her be younger too, she’ll be 71 in 2020. I know that comes off ageist but two seventy plus year olds as nominees just doesn’t seem like it will help GOTV.

I’ll canvass the 70 yr olds. You make sure the hipsters get to the polls.

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:54:44pm

re: #168 HappyWarrior

Well I was talking about Warren. I agree with you on Bernie. I will point out that he did oppose GWI though. Where he lost me was showing himself to be insensitive on those issues he and his supporters deride as “identity politics.” I just found it patronizing as hell from a guy living in a state 95% white to tell PoC that their issues are “distractions.” And I’ll be honest, even though I’m no New Yorker, I got really annoyed when he took umbridge to Ted Cruz’s “New York values” comment, on Larry Whitmore. He- Bernie chose to leave New York. Hillary chose to go to it. I consider her a better representative of what it means to be a New Yorker than Burlington Bernie.

I spoke about Bernie because Warren tacks much the same way, pushing this “progressive” bit that ignores everything that doesn’t boil down to “hang the rich.” It was why Bernie’s campaign was so lackluster, because he couldn’t run on anything aside from resentment and she’s looking to try to follow that same course. White resentment is not the party’s ticket back to the White House.

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BeachDem  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:54:48pm

re: #131 Charles Johnson

Not to mention the gloating of after-Berners on kos.

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:55:35pm

re: #173 Charles Johnson

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Hell, just “I need more information before I can comment” or something to that effect.

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Skip Intro  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:55:44pm

re: #174 Blind Frog Belly White

More projection than a 20-screen Cineplex.

And new talking points for the RW media. The “liberal” media too.

Nice job ladies.

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:55:48pm

re: #171 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Charles Johnson  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:55:50pm
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:56:08pm

re: #177 BeachDem

Not to mention the gloating of after-Berners on kos.

Yup. There’s a bunch on the wreck list ignoring everything and just hanging on these words. Forget that Bernie signed the same agreement then refused to share any of the money HE raised..

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:56:41pm

re: #163 JordanRules

I think she’s a really good Senator too!

Some people wrongly I think want to make every Progressive legislator the next great hope. I like Senators as candidates but I want ones that have shown they have a wide attention span to issues, that work well as teamplayers, and ones that show they can get legislation passed. Warren really doesn’t have that on FP unfortunately. And I think she hurt herself with number two today. A large amount of her constituents voted for HRC over Bernie. When she says that it was rigged against Sanders, she insults their choice of candidate.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:57:10pm

re: #175 Decatur Deb

I’ll canvass the 70 yr olds. You make sure the hipsters get to the polls.

But I’m not a hipster. I’m just a 30 something with a beard.

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:57:22pm

“Honesty” is now writing a “tell-all” book that you pimp like mad to restore your image after pissing off half your party for “rigging” the vote and the other half for running a piss-poor election campaign.

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Skip Intro  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:57:49pm

Is this fucking Bernie Sanders day on LGF? I’ve read more about this asshole today than in the last six months. Enough is enough.

I’m outta here.

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BeachDem  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:58:37pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

Does the yam have a time machine? Why are his tweets dated 11/3? (Or is he already on his way to embarrass us in Asia and in a different time zone)

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:59:17pm

re: #147 darthstar

Half of Americans believe he’s probably a criminal.
Nearly all of them believe he’s an asshole.

No — his true believers don’t think that of him. Am not sure what percentage they are; maybe 38% of the public.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:59:44pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 5:59:51pm

re: #182 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Yup. There’s a bunch on the wreck list ignoring everything and just hanging on these words. Forget that Bernie signed the same agreement then refused to share any of the money HE raised..

He doesn’t get enough grief for being one of the worst team playing politicians I have ever seen. Now let me compare Bernie here negatively to Tom Perriello, who I happily supported in the primary for governor here. Tom lost the race by close to the same margin that Bernie lost to HRC. Tom didn’t refuse to endorse Lt. Governor Northam. He gave an enthusiastic endorsement of him, has been campaigning not just for our three candidates for Governor, Lt Governor, and Attorney General but also Dems seeking election in our Republican Majority House of Delegates and speaking out against Gillespie’s pandering to hate. In short, Tom Perriello is the man that Berniacs think their guy is: He’s progressive, open- minded, a team player, and someone who truly does want to build a movement. And I was happy to support him this spring.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:00:14pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:01:04pm

Hillary writes a book: “WHY WON’T SHE TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR LOSING THE ELECTION?!”

Brazile writes a book: “THANK YOU FOR TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED!!!”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:01:18pm

re: #191 FormerDirtDart

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Trickle Down: We Piss on you, economics.

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JordanRules  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:01:21pm

re: #184 HappyWarrior

You and your beard have a good time volunteering for the upcoming VA election!

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Charles Johnson  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:01:41pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:01:48pm

re: #194 JordanRules

You and your beard have a good time volunteering for the upcoming VA election!

Thanks, I’m going out on Saturday morning into the cold.

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:02:02pm

re: #191 FormerDirtDart

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$236 a year for 5 years, then a big tax increase. What a bargain.

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Brian J.  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:02:23pm

re: #176 Targetpractice

I spoke about Bernie because Warren tacks much the same way, pushing this “progressive” bit that ignores everything that doesn’t boil down to “hang the rich.” It was why Bernie’s campaign was so lackluster, because he couldn’t run on anything aside from resentment and she’s looking to try to follow that same course. White resentment is not the party’s ticket back to the White House.

It should be noted that Warren won her Senate seat in 2012, her only contested political race to date, by 7.55% over Scott Brown. Clinton won Massachusetts by 27.20%, meaning that she outperformed Warren by 19.65%. If Warren performed as poorly as in 2012, on a uniform swing, here are all the states she’d win in a 2020 national election.

Massachusetts
Vermont
New York
Maryland
DC
California
Hawaii

That’s a 423-115 Electoral College pasting, exactly three EV better than Mike Dukakis. Feel the second-generation Bern.

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jaunte  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:02:29pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:02:43pm

So, the GOP’s tax plan finally dropped today. Oh, and Carter Page, along with someone else from the Trump Campaign just sawed through the legs on Jeff Sessions’ chair. But Brazile managed to pull the focus off of it onto herself.

Mind you, one reason is that it’s sufficiently complex that it will be a day or so till a clear analysis comes out.

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Kragar  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:04:01pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:04:17pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:04:20pm

re: #199 jaunte

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Ayep. Before the revelation about the hacking, Bernie had few bad things to say about the DNC. But the day they called his ass out, suddenly they were “the establishment” who were trying to defeat his bid.

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petesh  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:06:16pm

I just emailed Warren via her website:

Please refrain from comment on last year’s intra-party feuds. It’s past time to move forward, focusing on the failings of the present administration, and far too soon to begin discussing the next Presidential election.

Pour water on the fire please, and certainly not gasoline.

(I’m already on her mailing list and have in the past kicked in a simoleon or two.)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:06:23pm

re: #203 Targetpractice

Ayep. Before the revelation about the hacking, Bernie had few bad things to say about the DNC. But the day they called his ass out, suddenly they were “the establishment” who were trying to defeat his bid.

I noticed that too. As I said, the shadiness of the Sanders campaign is something that the media often ignores when trying to push the narrative they have of the 2016 primaries and then you have Republicans/wingnuts who know how to push the Bros buttons by feigning like they respect Sanders and act like they think he was robbed.

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Kragar  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:08:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:08:48pm

re: #198 Brian J.

It should be noted that Warren won her Senate seat in 2012, her only contested political race to date, by 7.55% over Scott Brown. Clinton won Massachusetts by 27.20%, meaning that she outperformed Warren by 19.65%. If Warren performed as poorly as in 2012, on a uniform swing, here are all the states she’d win in a 2020 national election.

Vermont
New York
Maryland
DC
California
Hawaii

That’s a 434-104 Electoral College pasting. Feel the second-generation Bern.

To be fair, I don’t think you can measure it that easily. However, you do raise a legitimate point that she’s not exactly knocking out Republicans at home in one of the safest Democratic states in the Union and I don’t see her winning re-election in a landslide either, she’ll win mind you but not overwhelmingly as she ought to.

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:08:57pm

It was that short period between the revelation about the hacking and the Iowa primary that Bernie suddenly decided to drop all his promise about running on the issues and turn the primaries into a purity test where he was the only possible choice because of how “corrupt” Hillary was. That was when he started talking about emails, about speech transcripts, and about how he so much “better” for “only” taking $27 donations.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:09:05pm

If either Sanders or HRC are still household names in 2018, we’re fucked in 2020.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:11:42pm

re: #208 Targetpractice

It was that short period between the revelation about the hacking and the Iowa primary that Bernie suddenly decided to drop all his promise about running on the issues and turn the primaries into a purity test where he was the only possible choice because of how “corrupt” Hillary was. That was when he started talking about emails, about speech transcripts, and about how he so much “better” for “only” taking $27 donations.

Indeed, I actually thought Bernie’s voice was a welcome addition until that point. I thought maybe he was a little too idealistic for the job but he started showing me a different side of him, one that has since been validated by past reports of him I’ve read. To say, I was disappointed it putting it mildly. i thought HRC needed a good competition in the primary but a honest discussion of issues, not Sanders writing the RNC playbook against her for them.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:12:01pm

thread

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:12:24pm

re: #209 Decatur Deb

If either Sanders or HRC are still household names in 2018, we’re fucked in 2020.

What I think will happen is Sanders will start out as the favorite especially if Biden doesn’t run and then fade as other candidates show themselves in to the race.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:12:52pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:13:05pm

re: #204 petesh

I just emailed Warren via her website:

(I’m already on her mailing list and have in the past kicked in a simoleon or two.)

I did both Warren and Brazile using those links I posted earlier.

I talked about being disappointed in their words and the timing right as an election is occurring. I asked why they are so eager to back a guy that isn’t in the party and does nothing for it and didn’t want in the deal Clinton had going. I hoped it wasn’t for political expediency and/or book sales. I assured them if they keep it up, we might count on more Trump. I also mentioned they were feeding him.

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:14:27pm

“How did Hillary rig the primaries against Bernie?”

“Well, she front-loaded all the races favorable to her and had more primaries than caucuses!”

“Bernie agreed to that schedule when he joined the race.”

“She signed a joint fundraising agreement that gave her leverage over the party!”

“Bernie signed the very same agreement.”

“The superdelegates tilted the race by endorsing her before the voting even began!”

“Shocking that party members would support the registered member of the party over the guy who showed up at the party looking for free stuff.”

“She took money away from state and local races!”

“Money that she gave right back when the party actually had candidates to run.”

“SHE RAN AT ALL! THAT’S HOW SHE RIGGED IT!”

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:14:42pm

Iceland Mandates Mental Health Warnings on All Bibles?

A satirical article about Iceland, Bibles, and mental health was mistaken as genuine news by some readers.

Rating: False

One clue was that they named the icelandic PM as “Andrew Canard.” Any article that gives an Icelander a name you can pronounce is obviously a fake. The real honcho was one Bjarni Benediktsson.
In June, the same satirical site ran an article claiming that Southern Baptists had been banned from Iceland. If only. This one, sure enough, named the president of Iceland as a wholly pronounceable Lars Bork, whereas the actual president’s name is a fearsome Guðni Th. Jóhannesson.

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petesh  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:14:45pm

re: #102 gocart mozart

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Video

Hmmm, they did much worse, and I’m not entirely sure that Valens gets away clean on this one … but nice clip.

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:15:37pm

Predictable:

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Brian J.  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:15:56pm

re: #207 HappyWarrior

To be fair, I don’t think you can measure it that easily. However, you do raise a legitimate point that she’s not exactly knocking out Republicans at home in one of the safest Democratic states in the Union and I don’t see her winning re-election in a landslide either, she’ll win mind you but not overwhelmingly as she ought to.

Another data point: The Morning Consult poll of senators shows Warren with a 54/35 fav/unfav rating in the Bay State, down from 57/35 in July. That ties for 17th-best raw and for 45th-best net approval rating. That’s pretty bad given how solidly Democratic Massachusetts is. Democrats from swing or red states with better net approval ratings include Al Franken, Heidi Heitkamp, Jon Tester, Mark Warner, and Bill Nelson. Her net approval rating is 8 points behind the state’s other senator, Ed Markey (49/22). This isn’t the stuff of greatness. It’s barely the stuff of adequacy.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:16:41pm

re: #218 lawhawk

Predictable:

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Yep and that’s why Brazille and Warren fucked up. They literally fed assholes like scumbag Hoft.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:17:05pm

I spent today exchanging hostile emails with a Bernie friend who truly believes Bernie would have outperformed Hillary against Trump; at least my friend voted for her but without enthusiasm. He really thinks that a Bernie type can win an election. My friend isn’t on Twitter or FB, but the MSM was so hostile to Hillary that you didn’t need the Russians to color your view of her.

For 2020, we need someone young. I like my Senator, Tammy Duckworth, but am concerned that her foreign birth could be used against her, although the GOP had no problems with Ted Cruz. Who knows who the Republican candidate will be then or the President?

Let’s hope that the Bernie people will not persist in trying to destroy the Democratic party, but I am not optimistic.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:17:29pm

re: #213 FormerDirtDart

Oh, for fuck’s sake.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:18:02pm

re: #219 Brian J.

Another data point: The Morning Consult poll of senators shows Warren with a 54/35 fav/unfav rating in the Bay State, down from 57/35 in July. That ties for 17th-best raw and for 45th-best net approval rating. That’s pretty bad given how solidly Democratic Massachusetts is. Democrats from swing or red states with better net approval ratings include Al Franken, Heidi Heitkamp, Jon Tester, Mark Warner, and Bill Nelson. Her net approval rating is 8 points behind the state’s other senator, Ed Markey (49/22). This isn’t the stuff of greatness. It’s barely the stuff of adequacy.

Oh yeah, I don’t disagree with you. I just disagreed that her initial Senate performance would be an accurate predictor of how she’d do in a presidential election. That said, you are correct, she’s polarizing in her own state, a liberal state would be a sign of trouble to come should she ever seek the nomination for POTUS.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:18:06pm

re: #218 lawhawk

Predictable:

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Hoft’s fans are even dumber than he is.

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Brian J.  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:18:06pm

re: #212 HappyWarrior

What I think will happen is Sanders will start out as the favorite especially if Biden doesn’t run and then fade as other candidates show themselves in to the race.

Nah, that at least we’ll be spared. I think Bernie’s going for an extended trip to the Graybar Hotel. The only question is which prosecutors send him there: the FEC (campaign funding violations), the FBI (bank fraud/ embezzlement from Burlington College), or Robert Mueller (Manafort to Devine to Sanders).

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:18:48pm

So Brazille may have had the wrong document even? Jeezus.

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electrotek  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:19:19pm

Remember that gun shop in Dallas that uses Crusader imagery and Biblical verses to sell guns?

Came across a 1 star review of the store and the true colors of their customer base comes to light, including the “likes” by the store’s page administrator:

Facebook Post

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:19:32pm

re: #226 HappyWarrior

So Brazille may have had the wrong document even? Jeezus.

???

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:19:34pm

re: #225 Brian J.

Nah, that at least we’ll be spared. I think Bernie’s going for an extended trip to the Graybar Hotel. The only question is which prosecutors send him there: the FEC (campaign funding violations), the FBI (bank fraud/ embezzlement from Burlington College), or Robert Mueller (Manafort to Devine to Sanders).

I dunno. Devine’s Manafort connection has had me curious though I will concede.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:19:37pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:20:03pm

re: #211 FormerDirtDart

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I’d say that’s a pretty clear grounds for a libel lawsuit. About the only possible defense Brazile has is that she confused the two JFAs, but that would pretty much undermine the meat of her book. So she either stands by her (provably false) assertion and opens herself to a lawsuit, or she comes clean and returns to being a pariah.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:20:07pm

re: #228 Hecuba’s daughter

???

They’re saying that Brazille may have been talking about a 2016 agreement rather than a 2015 one if I understand right.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:20:22pm

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Good luck!!👍🏾

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:20:33pm

re: #224 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Worst criminal in history? Hyperbole much?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:20:38pm

re: #230 Dave In Austin

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DRAIN THE SWAMP!

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:21:28pm

re: #235 HappyWarrior

DRAIN THE SWAMP!

SWAMP THE DRAIN!

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Brian J.  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:21:29pm

re: #232 HappyWarrior

They’re saying that Brazille may have been talking about a 2016 agreement rather than a 2015 one if I understand right.

Right. Brazile is apparently conflating the August 2015 agreement signed by both Clinton and Sanders, setting up the JFAs, and the June 2016 agreement that is “So You’ve Won the Nomination” boilerplate.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:21:43pm

re: #224 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

YouTube

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:22:06pm

re: #225 Brian J.

Nah, that at least we’ll be spared. I think Bernie’s going for an extended trip to the Graybar Hotel. The only question is which prosecutors send him there: the FEC (campaign funding violations), the FBI (bank fraud/ embezzlement from Burlington College), or Robert Mueller (Manafort to Devine to Sanders).

Bernie being a Russian plant would not surprise me.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:23:01pm

re: #237 Brian J.

Right. Brazile is apparently conflating the August 2015 agreement signed by both Clinton and Sanders, setting up the JFAs, and the June 2016 agreement that is “So You’ve Won the Nomination” boilerplate.

She really stepped in shit big time here. WTH was she thinking? I don’t begrudge her writing a book but I do begrudge her for getting something patently wrong and allowing misinformation to be spread to a group of people who already will believe any conspiracy theory they can to rationalize Sanders’ defeat.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:23:32pm

re: #239 Hecuba’s daughter

Bernie being a Russian plant would not surprise me.

I don’t know if I think that but I’ll be honest, I definitely don’t think he’s as pure as he’s given credit for.

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petesh  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:23:50pm

re: #239 Hecuba’s daughter

Bernie being a Russian plant would not surprise me.

Hmmmm … I think that’s heading for tinfoil territory.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:24:03pm
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Brian J.  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:24:09pm

re: #239 Hecuba’s daughter

Bernie being a Russian plant would not surprise me.

A lot of the left has USSR separation issues and/or belief that the USA is evil and must be destroyed and that only Russia has the power to do it. I doubt he started out, even for his presidential run, to be a Russian agent, but now I think he knows he’s in too deep to ever get out.

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:24:21pm

re: #242 petesh

Bernie? No.

Bernie’s supporters? Plausible.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:25:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:25:46pm

re: #242 petesh

Hmmmm … I think that’s heading for tinfoil territory.

Yeah I don’t think he’s a plant or spy TBH. I think he’s got some real shady characters that do back him though like Devine and Tulsi Gabbard though. Now that’s a lady I don’t trust at all given that she’s gotten praise from Spencer and Bannon and her hostility towards Muslims and her past homophobic voting record. Funny how that got ignored when the Bros pushed her for VP but somehow HRC was the devil incarnate for not being always supportive of SSM when Tulsi has an imperfect record supporting gays even having rights.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:26:05pm

re: #243 FormerDirtDart

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Children in Equatorial Guinea and Angola, can’t see where Trump would give one shit about them.

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ObserverArt  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:26:42pm

re: #236 Targetpractice

SWAMP THE DRAIN!

SWAB THE POOP DRECK!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:26:44pm

re: #245 lawhawk

Bernie? No.

Bernie’s supporters? Plausible.

I think it has come out that the Russians used fake Sanders bots to divide. Now to be fair, I’m sure they tried using fake Clinton bots too. That said, his advisers are very questionable too unlike HRC’s who I would trust to do the right thing on FP.

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Kragar  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:28:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:28:44pm
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FormerDirtDart  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:28:44pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:28:59pm

re: #217 petesh

I like the Zep version but cmon, give Valens credit. it’s the same fucking song.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:29:40pm

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And this guy is mentioned as presidential material. Sorry but enough of big businessmen already.

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petesh  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:29:51pm

re: #250 HappyWarrior

I think it has come out that the Russians used fake Sanders bots to divide. Now to be fair, I’m sure they tried using fake Clinton bots too. That said, his advisers are very questionable too unlike HRC’s who I would trust to do the right thing on FP.

Oh, certainly. They also used bots to plant fake stories (such as that Clinton supported Citizens United!) that some gullible Bernie supporters believed and amplified. Too many people seem to ignore that confusion was the principal Russian goal.

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Kragar  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:30:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:30:45pm

re: #256 petesh

Oh, certainly. They also used bots to plant fake stories (such as that Clinton supported Citizens United!) that some gullible Bernie supporters believed and amplified. Too many people seem to ignore that confusion was the principal Russian goal.

Yep, the goal wasn’t to support Russia but to doubt our own institutions and I’m sad to say but they’ve succeeded there.

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retired cynic  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:31:31pm

re: #195 Charles Johnson

I just went on her email system (thanks to whoever sent it, above), and wrote an absolute scorcher. No profanity, but I did not hold back. I am absolutely furious with her (and Brazile) for taking a moment when Republicans are stepping all over themselves, and turning into our problem. GAHHHHHH!

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:31:33pm

re: #257 Kragar

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Hey now, he “clarified” his statements. Wasn’t that enough?!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:31:37pm

re: #257 Kragar

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Glad she is taking a lead on this. Donde Esta Bernie though as I often ask on this issue though. He’s been very quiet which I admit sometimes has me with a tinfoil hat.

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Brian J.  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:31:52pm

re: #216 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Iceland Mandates Mental Health Warnings on All Bibles?

One clue was that they named the icelandic PM as “Andrew Canard.” Any article that gives an Icelander a name you can pronounce is obviously a fake. The real honcho was one Bjarni Benediktsson.
In June, the same satirical site ran an article claiming that Southern Baptists had been banned from Iceland. If only. This one, sure enough, named the president of Iceland as a wholly pronounceable Lars Bork, whereas the actual president’s name is a fearsome Guðni Th. Jóhannesson.

Speaking of, Benediktsson’s government collapsed after he was caught secretly signing a letter to commute the sentence of a child molester who was a friend of his father’s. The election last Sunday looks like it will bring in a center-left coalition government, including the Pirate Party (the first time anywhere that they’ll be part of a national government).

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petesh  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:32:08pm

re: #254 gocart mozart

I like the Zep version but cmon, give Valens credit. it’s the same fucking song.

Same use of exclamation I grant you, but as I say they’ve done worse, as we all know. More to the point, Valens was clearly riffing off Little Richard. And I like Valens!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:32:24pm

re: #259 retired cynic

I just went on her email system (thanks to whoever sent it, above), and wrote an absolute scorcher. No profanity, but I did not hold back. I am absolutely furious with her (and Brazile) for taking a moment when Republicans are stepping all over themselves, and turning into our problem. GAHHHHHH!

I think she lost a lot of potential supporters in 2020 today. I was always skeptical of her as a possible candidate before today for my own reasons but I think today sort of cemented it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:34:40pm

he’s hyper again…must be all that Halloween candy…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:34:40pm

The fact is we’re in a country where people, smart people I know seriously think The Rock might be a decent candidate. Now, I personally like Dwayne Johnson. Professoinal wrestling has always bored me but Johnson seems like a decent guy but you know what, there’s a lot of decent people I know who are eligible to be President and I wouldn’t vote for 99.9% of them.I wouldn’t vote for myself for President.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:35:10pm

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

he’s hyper again…must be all that Halloween candy…

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If it was such a disaster, why didn’t you fire him immediately? Oh wait, that was before he dared to do his job and investigate your crooked ass.

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Brian J.  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:36:34pm

re: #267 HappyWarrior

If it was such a disaster, why didn’t you fire him immediately? Oh wait, that was before he dared to do his job and investigate your crooked ass.

There is no such thing as honor among thieves.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:36:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:37:12pm

re: #268 Brian J.

There is no such thing as honor among thieves.

Rhetorical.

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petesh  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:38:05pm

re: #254 gocart mozart

I like the Zep version but cmon, give Valens credit. it’s the same fucking song.

Meant to include in my previous reply:

Little Richard - Ooh! My Soul

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:38:52pm

re: #269 Charles Johnson

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God can you imagine the Field Day FNC would have with an actual honest to God socialist. Sanders only has popularity now because he’s never been subject to serious attacks. The right who pretend to feel bad for him now for losing to the “Mean old Clinton machine” would instantly turn on him and make him out to be V.I. Lenin.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:40:40pm

re: #95 b.d. (bill d.)

WOW, I can’t see how anyone gaining unauthorized access to Donald Trump’s twitter account could cause any problems AT ALL!

THE BOMBING BEGINS IN 5 MINUTES!!!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:41:45pm

re: #169 Blind Frog Belly White

BernieBros must be so confused. Up until this morning the were supposed to HATE Donna Brazile with the white-hot heat of 1000 suns for being THE examplar of the Democratic Establishment. And now they’re supposed to love her for Finally Telling The Truth!!!

But they won’t go out and buy her book. They’ll repeat what TYT and now, Trump, tells them to.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:42:08pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:43:55pm

re: #269 Charles Johnson

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Charles, come on. You should support the purity unicorn. What kind of a liberal can you be if you won’t get behind the dumpy old white geezer who should’ve won but for Hillary Clinton’s cheating?

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retired cynic  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:46:31pm

re: #259 retired cynic

I just went on her email system (thanks to whoever sent it, above), and wrote an absolute scorcher. No profanity, but I did not hold back. I am absolutely furious with her (and Brazile) for taking a moment when Republicans are stepping all over themselves, and turning into our problem. GAHHHHHH!

That was referring to Warren. I have now also written on Brazile’s email system in a similar vein. I could work myself up to a cat fight. Should not have had coffee for supper.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:46:44pm

I am starting to believe we have no competent political parties left in this country.

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JordanRules  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:47:49pm

re: #275 FormerDirtDart

Still going after the FBI. Lots of folks who loved their boss Comey and hate him are still around. Not very smart.

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retired cynic  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:48:02pm

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

he’s hyper again…must be all that Halloween candy…

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Now we know who got DT Jr’s daughter’s candy…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:49:12pm

re: #279 JordanRules

Still going after the FBI. Lots of folks who loved their boss Comey and hate him are still around. Not very smart.

No one’s accused him of being smart except his toadies and himself.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:49:22pm

re: #279 JordanRules

Still going after the FBI. Lots of folks who loved their boss Comey and hate him are still around. Not very smart.

That’s the theme of this Presidency, isn’t it?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:49:23pm

re: #211 FormerDirtDart

thread

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JFC.

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EPR-radar  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:49:37pm

re: #278 Eclectic Cyborg

I am starting to believe we have no competent political parties left in this country.

Some of the DNC insiders (e.g., Debbie Wasserman-Schultz) are so inept that you seriously have to ask: “Are they being paid to lose?”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:50:31pm

re: #253 FormerDirtDart

Nothing wrong with Anal bum Covers.

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JordanRules  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:50:35pm

re: #281 HappyWarrior

Remember the IQ test days? Ha, ha!!
That was like what, 2 weeks ago?

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Dave In Austin  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:51:17pm
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Dave In Austin  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:52:49pm

I’d vote for Evan McMullin before I’d vote for Bernie. Seriously.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:53:01pm

re: #284 EPR-radar

Some of the DNC insiders (e.g., Debbie Wasserman-Schultz) are so inept that you seriously have to ask: “Are they being paid to lose?”

She was an awful choice for chairwoman. On that, I will agree with the Bros.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:54:05pm

re: #288 Dave In Austin

I’d vote for Evan McMullin before I’d vote for Bernie. Seriously.

I do think Evan is more informed on the issues than Bernie. I’d still have a hard time voting for him though over someone left leaning but I admit Bernie hasn’t made himself too keen with me the past year ad chaneg.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:54:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:55:08pm

re: #291 FormerDirtDart

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I have a feeling he’s going to piss everyone off with this.

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:56:20pm

re: #155 Charles Johnson

Not too long ago, people were complaining that there wasn’t more coordination between the top of the party and lower levels. Now?

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:57:06pm

She saluted him as her Führer. I’m sure this won’t be a propaganda interview.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:57:48pm

re: #294 Single-handed sailor

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She saluted him as her Führer. I’m sure this won’t be a propaganda interview.

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What the actual bejesusing fuck.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:58:09pm

re: #294 Single-handed sailor

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She saluted him as her Führer. I’m sure this won’t be a propaganda interview.

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All she’s missing is a brown shirt and some boots.

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scottslemmons  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:58:18pm

re: #278 Eclectic Cyborg

I am starting to believe we have no competent political parties left in this country.

We have two competent parties, but one has morphed into an openly fascist party, and the other, while competent and sane, is surrounded by the fascist party, agents of a hostile foreign nation, and millions of fucking morons. That makes it hard for them to make any forward progress.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:58:36pm

re: #295 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

What the actual bejesusing fuck.

I’d like to hope that’s just an unfortunate photo but I don’t have much hope any more give what the right’s become.

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retired cynic  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:59:26pm

re: #294 Single-handed sailor

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She saluted him as her Führer. I’m sure this won’t be a propaganda interview.

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Someone should draw a line up her spine and another one on her arm, and post that as the Ingraham Angle.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:59:36pm

So Donna confused (or is deliberately misrepresenting, hoping to sell more copies of her book) the 2015 JFA (Joint Fundraising Agreement) as the 2016 one. The 2016 one being the one AFTER Hillary won the nomination.

Fuck me sideways.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 2, 2017 • 6:59:59pm

re: #298 HappyWarrior

I’d like to hope that’s just an unfortunate photo but I don’t have much hope any more give what the right’s become.

The President of the United States called a gang of Nazis “very nice people”. At this point, there appears to be no reason to believe that photo isn’t real.

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retired cynic  Nov 2, 2017 • 7:00:29pm

re: #301 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The President of the United States called a gang of Nazis “very nice people”. At this point, there appears to be no reason to believe that photo isn’t real.

The video looked real at the time.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 2, 2017 • 7:00:35pm

re: #295 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s even worse when you watch the video.

Laura Ingraham Nazi Salute at RNC Speech

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 2, 2017 • 7:03:29pm

re: #303 GlutenFreeJesus

It’s even worse when you watch the video.

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…Fuck.

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Citizen K  Nov 2, 2017 • 7:06:25pm

re: #303 GlutenFreeJesus

It’s even worse when you watch the video.

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Video

re: #304 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

…Fuck.

Yeah, it’s like…the fact that she did it with minimal outrage or callouts compared to how much rage a fucking kneel has caused is…yeah.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 7:06:46pm

re: #303 GlutenFreeJesus

It’s even worse when you watch the video.

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Video

Good grief.

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whitebeach  Nov 2, 2017 • 7:07:13pm

re: #259 retired cynic

I just went on her email system (thanks to whoever sent it, above), and wrote an absolute scorcher. No profanity, but I did not hold back. I am absolutely furious with her (and Brazile) for taking a moment when Republicans are stepping all over themselves, and turning into our problem. GAHHHHHH!

I won’t email her on that site because of all the registration BS, which guarantees a deluge of crap filling my mailbox for years. But if I had a better way to reach her, I’d simply say, “Senator Warren: This morning I thought of you as someone I’d like to vote for in a primary and in a general election. Tonight I don’t think that anymore. Work better.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 7:07:26pm

re: #301 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The President of the United States called a gang of Nazis “very nice people”. At this point, there appears to be no reason to believe that photo isn’t real.

Oh I wasn’t doubting its authenicty. I was hopoing and see now that I’m wrong that it was a bad angle or something. Not surprised. She’s as racist as Coulter.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 2, 2017 • 7:08:19pm

Shutting down an investigative outfit was the goal. The unionizing excuse was just a great way to put the focus on the workers instead of himself. Brilliant really. “Those stoopid libs did it to themselves. Herr derr derp.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2017 • 7:08:30pm

re: #300 GlutenFreeJesus

So Donna confused (or is deliberately misrepresenting, hoping to sell more copies of her book) the 2015 JFA (Joint Fundraising Agreement) as the 2016 one. The 2016 one being the one AFTER Hillary won the nomination.

Fuck me sideways.

I really hope for her sake that it was a really bad oversight. Can’t see how she successfully gets out of this.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 2, 2017 • 7:09:03pm

re: #305 Citizen K

Yeah, it’s like…the fact that she did it with minimal outrage or callouts compared to how much rage a fucking kneel has caused is…yeah.

Yeah. This country is so fucked up. I refuse to give in to despair, though. Nope. Not giving up.

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electrotek  Nov 2, 2017 • 7:14:05pm

These guys look like they never get laid.


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