Right Wing Media Desperate to Hang Mass Murderer Devin Patrick Kelley on the Left

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By now, most people are aware that when an act of mass gun violence happens, the US right wing has a well-worn script they always follow:

Was it committed by a Muslim or a person of color?

If yes, it was an obvious act of terrorism and we need to immediately institute policies discriminating against all Muslims.

If no, was it committed by a white man?

If yes, he was obviously mentally ill and we need to refrain from talking about guns and discuss mental health instead.

But now, we’ve found an exception to this script. Because even though Devin Patrick Kelley, who murdered a lot of people in a Texas church yesterday with an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle, was a white man with a long history of domestic violence and obvious mental health issues, he also belonged to a group almost as demonized by the right as Muslims and minorities.

He was an atheist. And now they have their hook to attack the left with.

Here’s the item about Kelley at Memeorandum, in which you’ll find all the usual suspects ranting in unison (they always rant in unison) about atheists and leftists and forgetting all about their usual script: Washington Times, Gateway Pundit, The Blaze, The Daily Caller, Walid Shoebat, Breitbart “News” … they’re all at it.

Never mind that right wingers can also be atheists.

But in the darker corners of the right (e.g. Alex Jones, Mike Cernovich, Gateway Pundit, etc.) they’re going even further, concocting out of thin air a theory that Kelley was a member of Antifa.

This is where these people always end up: in twisted phony conspiracy theories.

Anything to distract from and avoid talking about the real issue: the ugly prevalence of gun worship among the right, and the pernicious, evil influence of the NRA among our elected officials.

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273 comments
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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:21:31am

Wingers are idiots.

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:22:00am

re: #1 HappyWarrior

Wingers are idiots.

And desperate to avoid the truth.

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makeitstop  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:23:08am

OT: Wonder what’s happening here.

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jaunte  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:23:33am
Hans Fiene, a Lutheran pastor who is also a regular contributor to the right-wing website The Federalist, has written a new column in which he explains that allowing 26 people to die at the hands of a crazed gunman at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, this weekend was actually God’s way of answering their prayers.
…….snip………

“It may seem, on the surface, that God was refusing to give such protection to his Texan children,” he writes. “But we are also praying that God would deliver us from evil eternally. Through these same words, we are asking God to deliver us out of this evil world and into his heavenly glory, where no violence, persecution, cruelty, or hatred will ever afflict us again.”
rawstory.com

This is cult mass-suicide thinking.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:23:44am

It’s so goddamned sad that Kelley’s problem with his mil resulted in so many people dead. It’s long time to do something about guns and it’s Time our elected officials stop sending their thoughts and prayers and start showing resolve and action. No, we won’t stop all gun violence but we can and ought to work to reduce it.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:23:58am

There’s one on my facebook friends list right now pushing a “YourNewsWire” (known fake news site) claiming the guy was antifa. The right so wanted the “antifa uprising” that was supposed to happen on November 4 that this is no surprise.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:24:18am

re: #4 jaunte

This is cult mass-suicide thinking.

“Oh, Holy Bomb….”

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Belafon  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:24:29am

Was this debunked:

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:24:41am

I’m an atheist and I can promise you I will never murder anyone.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:25:10am

re: #4 jaunte

This is cult mass-suicide thinking.

And that’s different from an Islamic world view how? I doubt those people wanted to die. The youngest victim was 18 months old with their whole life ahead.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:25:11am

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Mike Lamb  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:25:17am

And if Democrats/liberals ever defended a mass murderer (or his weapon of choice) based on political affiliation, it might be relevant what the killer’s political views were.

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dangerman  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:25:52am

re: #9 Ace Rothstein

Im an atheist and I can promise you I will never murder anyone.

thank you for the use of “and”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:26:56am

re: #6 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

There’s one on my facebook friends list right now pushing a “YourNewsWire” (known fake news site) claiming the guy was antifa. The right so wanted the “antifa uprising” that was supposed to happen on November 4 that this is no surprise.

“Okay, so nobody got beheaded on November 4th, and there wasn’t even any real violent protest anywhere. What else we got?”

“Well, there’s a mass shooting at a church in a small town in Texas. The problem is the shooter’s white, ex-mil, no known ties to anything.”

“BRILLIANT! Quick! Somebody photoshop him with an Antifa banner!”

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jaunte  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:27:18am
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jaunte  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:30:19am

Incontrast with Greg Abbot’s “lie back and endure it” advice, here’s Chris Murphy: none of this is inevitable.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:30:26am

There are thousands, if not tens and hundreds of thousands, alt-right twitter and facebook accounts that use the AR15 as their profile pic….the exact rifle that Devin Patrick Kelley used as his profile pic.

Case closed.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:30:53am

re: #15 jaunte

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I’m sure that makes the families of the victims feel that much better. Governor TCOT NRA should try that empathy thing. Oh wait, he’s a conservative Republican.

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Kragar  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:30:55am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:31:54am

re: #16 jaunte

Incontrast with Greg Abbot’s “lie back and endure it” advice, here’s Chris Murphy: none of this is inevitable.

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Murphy has become one of my favorites because he’s not afraid of the pigs who run the gun lobby.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:32:52am

re: #19 Kragar

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Plenty of other Christians will rejoice but Jim only means Christians like him who are easily conned marks.

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Kragar  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:34:20am

re: #21 HappyWarrior

Its why I specified Evangelicals. Those assholes are fucking crazy

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:34:50am

re: #19 Kragar

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“I zay… a riot iss an ugly ting”

YouTube

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:35:13am

re: #22 Kragar

Its why I specified Evangelicals. Those assholes are fucking crazy

They really are.

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ObserverArt  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:35:26am

Lawhawk mentioned the tests run by ABC news regarding a hero with a gun and how effective they could be in the last thread.

I posted these there and then noticed a new thread was up. I figure these are good for today’s discussion and some might want to revisit these.

Proof that Concealed Carry permit holders live in a dream world, Part One

Proof that Concealed Carry permit holders live in a dream world, Part Two

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:38:35am

re: #25 ObserverArt

Lawhawk mentioned the tests run by ABC news regarding a hero with a gun and how effective they could be in the last thread.

I posted these there and then noticed a new thread was up. I figure these are good for today’s discussion and some might want to revisit these.

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I remember seeing that video after San Bernardino I think. It’s easy to think you’ll be a hero but every situation is unique. You have no idea how you’ll respond until in that situation.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:39:44am

Totally off topic, but last night when I was bringing The Older Boy home after work, a car parked along the street caught my eye. It was dark, and the car was black, so it was not possible to get a clear picture….

It was a replica of the Batmobile from the 1989 Tim Burton “Batman”. This one…

There’s something you don’t see every day.

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jaunte  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:42:15am

“…a tool meant for combat situations is widely available in civil society for no apparent reason other than to let civilians feel like they are soldiers. So we wind up with men carrying a legally-purchased weapon of war. No, they are not designed exactly the same, but when the bullet leaves the barrel at subsonic speeds to shred bones and organs, the results are often the same.

It is beyond time that we ask our representatives in Congress if the massive casualties over the past several years are worth the sacrifice. In the Army, you certainly learn to value your rifle. But the men and women around you are far more important. Let us finally put our neighbors’ interest over those of the National Rifle Association and change America’s gun laws.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:45:52am

re: #28 jaunte

I think we could make a big change just by outlawing detachable magazines. Imagine if you had to reload with stripper clips, with no more than 10 rounds.

Of course, the problem is that there are SO MANY weapons out there with detachable magazines and SO MANY high capacity magazines. There’s a genie we should have kept in the bottle.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:46:49am

re: #29 Blind Frog Belly White

I think we could make a big change just by outlawing detachable magazines. Imagine if you had to reload with stripper clips, with no more than 10 rounds.

Of course, the problem is that there are SO MANY weapons out there with detachable magazines and SO MANY high capacity magazines. There’s a genie we should have kept in the bottle.

BUT, BUT, BUT MORON LABIA!!! CAME AND TAKEZ IT!!!11!!

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Kragar  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:48:53am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:49:26am

re: #30 Dr. Matt

BUT, BUT, BUT MORON LABIA!!! CAME AND TAKEZ IT!!!11!!

This morning I heard a Conservative on NPR saying that the only POSSIBLE measures we could take would be confiscation. Which is bullshit, and that’s what feeds this - the Right says that unless a new gun law would prevent ALL these sorts of things, it is completely useless! which means the only POSSIBLE thing is confiscation, which is of course not going to happen.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:49:38am

You people need to just realize that here in Texas, we NEED a 30rd mags and bump stocks to hunt deer and faral hogs from a blind 30yrds from a mechanized corn feeder that goes off twice a day.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:49:40am

re: #31 Kragar

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What a dick.

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jaunte  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:50:10am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:50:20am

re: #32 Blind Frog Belly White

This morning I heard a Conservative on NPR saying that the only POSSIBLE measures we could take would be confiscation. Which is bullshit, and that’s what feeds this - the Right says that unless a new gun law would prevent ALL these sorts of things, it is completely useless! which means the only POSSIBLE thing is confiscation, which is of course not going to happen.

It’s so stupid.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:50:32am
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(Bert the Turtle)  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:51:10am

re: #27 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s what I used to think about the Wienermobile. Then it moved in next door.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:51:15am

re: #35 jaunte

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What citizen would that be? Didn’t he take his own life.

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jaunte  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:51:27am

re: #32 Blind Frog Belly White

100% effectiveness has never been the standard by which we judge laws.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:52:10am

The gun lobby owns these guys.

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jaunte  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:52:16am

re: #39 HappyWarrior

The story is that somebody shot ‘at’ him, which is just like stopping the whole shooting.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:54:40am

re: #42 jaunte

The story is that somebody shot ‘at’ him, which is just like stopping the whole shooting.

Ah.

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jaunte  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:55:45am

re: #43 HappyWarrior

Because when you shoot ‘at’ a shooter, all of your bullets magically go where you want.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:56:45am

re: #33 Dave In Austin

You people need to just realize that here in Texas, we NEED a 30rd mags and bump stocks to hunt deer and faral hogs from a blind 30yrds from a mechanized corn feeder that goes off twice a day.

…and the sound of which has trained the game to show up for food.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:56:53am

re: #31 Kragar

This guy needs to read that “sermon”

The Farting Preacher

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:57:59am

re: #40 jaunte

100% effectiveness has never been the standard by which we judge laws.

Yeah, funny about that. And yet it’s the only standard by which the Right measures gun laws.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:58:43am

I thought he was denied a carry permit, but could still buy all the guns he’d ever want?

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jaunte  Nov 6, 2017 • 11:58:55am
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jaunte  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:00:09pm

re: #47 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, funny about that. And yet it’s the only standard by which the Right measures gun laws.

Texas AG Ken Paxton:

“There’s just something about children dying that devastates all of us. It breaks my heart. As far as what we can do in the future, the only thing I know is, because you can’t necessarily keep guns out of the hands of people who are going to violate the law. If somebody’s willing to kill someone, they’re also going to be willing to violate a gun law.”

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jaunte  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:01:59pm

McConnell is using the 100% effective dodge too.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:02:20pm

re: #50 jaunte

Texas AG Ken Paxton:

Jim Jeffries has the perfect response for that, noting that in Australia an AR15 on the black market costs about $30,000. “If you have $30,000 - well done! You’re a great little saver!”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:03:25pm

re: #51 jaunte

McConnell is using the 100% effective dodge too.

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Dead children - The Price-O’-Freedom!

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dangerman  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:04:02pm

re: #50 jaunte

Texas AG Ken Paxton:
“There’s just something about children dying that devastates all of us. It breaks my heart. As far as what we can do in the future, the only thing I know is, because you can’t necessarily keep guns out of the hands of people who are going to violate the law. If somebody’s willing to kill someone, they’re also going to be willing to violate a gun law.”

fair enough ken

at the same time what about all those people who would think twice and would not be willing to violate a gun law?

what about the sellers who wouldnt be willing to violate a gun law?

wouldnt that reduces the killing somewhat?

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:04:48pm

The logical issue-They seek to fix the blame in a fashion that suits them. The real goal is fixing the problem, and fixing the blame sucks all the energy out. As planned.

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Kragar  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:05:24pm

re: #51 jaunte

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wrenchwench  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:05:45pm

re: #38 (Bert the Turtle)

That’s what I used to think about the Wienermobile. Then it moved in next door.

My dad used to drive that! Before I was born…

Or so he said. No pix, no check stubs. They’d pay people to drive it, right? Otherwise, who would?

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lawhawk  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:06:03pm

re: #51 jaunte

100% impossible to prevent illegal abortions, so why try?

Oh…. wait…. that the GOP thinks they can absolutely positively outlaw and imprison the doctors who do that, the women who seek them, etc.

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Belafon  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:06:43pm

It’s time to hold the people who sell the guns to the wrong people accountable.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:08:23pm

re: #54 dangerman

fair enough ken

at the same time what about all those people who would think twice and would not be willing to violate a gun law?

what about the sellers who wouldnt be willing to violate a gun law?

wouldnt that reduces the killing somewhat?

Paxton’s thinking is based in the belief that nobody who is REALLY a “Law-Abiding Gun Owner” will EVER become a “Criminal”. Those who are “Criminal” are and always have been “Criminals”, no matter whether they’ve ever broken laws or not.

And once someone who SEEMED to have been a “Law-Abiding Gun Owner” opens up on a crowd of strangers with his legally-obtained firearms, he instantly and retroactively becomes a “Criminal”, who could not have been restrained by any legal means.

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Kragar  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:09:02pm
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dangerman  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:09:05pm

re: #59 Belafon

It’s time to hold the people who sell the guns to the wrong people accountable.

yes, yes. 1,000 times yes.

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whitebeach  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:09:08pm

re: #40 jaunte

100% effectiveness has never been the standard by which we judge laws.

I wonder how this dipshit yokel AG would reply if someone presented him with the truth that nobody can stop every single illegal immigrant from entering the country, so why bother with immigration laws.

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dangerman  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:09:53pm

re: #60 Blind Frog Belly White

Paxton’s thinking is based in the belief that nobody who is REALLY a “Law-Abiding Gun Owner” will EVER become a “Criminal”. Those who are “Criminal” are and always have been “Criminals”, no matter whether they’ve ever broken laws or not.

And once someone who SEEMED to have been a “Law-Abiding Gun Owner” opens up on a crowd of strangers with his legally-obtained firearms, he instantly and retroactively becomes a “Criminal”, who could not have been restrained by any legal means.

yup. cant argue with that kind of time traveling twisted logic

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:12:06pm

Yeah, Christians will riot if Trump gets impeached because they’d be so fucking terrified of…Mike Pence??

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lawhawk  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:15:30pm
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JordanRules  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:16:12pm

Interesting piece here.

I don’t have kids so I was really surprised at how popular these videos are, but the implications here obviously go beyond the video content for kids.

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BlueGrl21  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:16:43pm

I had someone today tell me, “You can’t fight evil.”

I said, “Sure you can. You can do everything in your power to keep it from getting a gun. Pitchforks don’t have the firepower.”

I also told someone that shootouts in small Texas towns are really very 1800s, so I wouldn’t be too proud of the fact another guy grabbed a rifle and fired off a shot after 26 people were slaughtered. We’re not progressing, people!

For some reason, no one wants to talk to me today.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:19:36pm

re: #51 jaunte

McConnell is using the 100% effective dodge too.

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McConnell, asked what Senate could do after shootings: “It’s hard to envision a foolproof way to prevent individual outrages by evil people”

I dunno, but we can try voting them all out…

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JordanRules  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:22:22pm
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Kragar  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:24:41pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:27:07pm

re: #66 lawhawk

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Trucks aren’t designed to kill people you idiot. Not to mention we do regulate who can operate a truck and who can’t.

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KGxvi  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:27:18pm

re: #71 Kragar

It’s almost like every terrible thing they have ever accused Clinton or Obama of doing is exactly what they were doing… fucking IMAX in space.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:28:04pm

re: #73 KGxvi

It’s almost like every terrible thing they have ever accused Clinton or Obama of doing is exactly what they were doing… fucking IMAX in space.

Yep swamping the drain.

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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:30:01pm

re: #72 HappyWarrior

Trucks aren’t designed to kill people you idiot. Not to mention we do regulate who can operate a truck and who can’t.

Not to mention, once the technology exists for the truck to use AI to avoid hitting other objects , perhaps that would be implemented as well. To, you know, minimize the risk of death.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:30:38pm

On a lighter note, people are getting creative with that new Apple Animoji thing.

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KGxvi  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:30:50pm

re: #68 BlueGrl21

I had someone today tell me, “You can’t fight evil.”

I said, “Sure you can. You can do everything in your power to keep it from getting a gun. Pitchforks don’t have the firepower.”

I also told someone that shootouts in small Texas towns are really very 1800s, so I wouldn’t be too proud of the fact another guy grabbed a rifle and fired off a shot after 26 people were slaughtered. We’re not progressing, people!

For some reason, no one wants to talk to me today.

My old sensei posted something on Facebook today about how a good guy with a gun stopped the shooter who was a crazy guy with illegal guns, and which one would more gun control be likely to stop. I thought about pointing out that of the 378 mass shootings in the US this year, this was the first instance of the mythical good guy with a gun, and so statistically speaking, more/better gun control would probably have more of an impact on stopping crazy people with illegal guns, but I’ve come to realize there are certain people that I’m not going to get through to and it’s just not worth the stupidity I’d be avalanched with on facebook.

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JordanRules  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:32:08pm
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:32:26pm
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dangerman  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:32:29pm

re: #66 lawhawk

Didn’t hear liberals asking for a truck ban after last week’s terror attack,yet they think stripping away our gun rights is the answer now.

trucks are not a constitutional issue

if it was necessary to ban them it *would* be called for and they *could* be
they also can and are regulated

i know, just me…..

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Kragar  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:33:04pm
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BlueGrl21  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:33:06pm

re: #77 KGxvi

My old sensei posted something on Facebook today about how a good guy with a gun stopped the shooter who was a crazy guy with illegal guns, and which one would more gun control be likely to stop. I thought about pointing out that of the 378 mass shootings in the US this year, this was the first instance of the mythical good guy with a gun, and so statistically speaking, more/better gun control would probably have more of an impact on stopping crazy people with illegal guns, but I’ve come to realize there are certain people that I’m not going to get through to and it’s just not worth the stupidity I’d be avalanched with on facebook.

Thing is, he didn’t “stop the shooting.” The shooting went just fine.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:33:34pm

re: #81 Kragar

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It’s what they do.

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KGxvi  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:33:57pm

re: #80 dangerman

trucks are not a constitutional issue

if it was necessary to ban them it *would* be called for and they *could* be
they also can and are regulated

i know, just me…..

Imagine for a moment, how many dead there would have been in Manhattan if that guy had been able to get guns like the Vegas shooter had. On a holiday where there was a very popular parade. It’d be hundreds, no?

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Belafon  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:33:57pm

re: #80 dangerman

trucks are not a constitutional issue

if it was necessary to ban them it *would* be called for and they *could* be
they also can and are regulated

i know, just me…..

To operate a large truck you have to have a special license, different from the one you use to drive a car.

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KGxvi  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:34:56pm

re: #85 Belafon

To operate a large truck you have to have a special license, different from the one you use to drive a car.

The truck the guy used was just a regular rented pick up truck from home depot. Just need a regular drivers license for it.

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Belafon  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:36:11pm

re: #86 KGxvi

Your right. Wanna bet Home Depot implements more regulations than Republicans.

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dangerman  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:39:29pm

re: #84 KGxvi

Imagine for a moment, how many dead there would have been in Manhattan if that guy had been able to get guns like the Vegas shooter had. On a holiday where there was a very popular parade. It’d be hundreds, no?

yup ez

mayhem is easy. mass mayhem is easy. especially if you dont care if you live
society’s response is *usually* fast and overwhelming when the mayhem is heinous

i guess there was a sort of quiet understanding up until i dont know when / recently that certain things would just not ever be done… by anybody. spraying bullets into a crowd. plowing a vehicle into a crowd, etc.

that tacit, innocent, understanding between civilization and the depraved is gone.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:39:30pm

re: #51 jaunte

McConnell is using the 100% effective dodge too.

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There’s nothing that could have prevented that drunk driver from getting behind the wheel and killing that family in the accident…so let’s not legislate that behavior.

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Kragar  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:39:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:40:26pm

re: #90 Kragar

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Is there anything that the House GOP actually does positive?

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ObserverArt  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:41:33pm

I am getting a serious feeling of deja vu reading these few threads. They reflect the deja vu of going through another mass shooting and all the news reports and comments being so similar every time.

It’s like you could make a movie about it all, like Groundhog Day. Instead of it opening with the radio playing “I Got You Babe” you could have someone giving the same breaking news report of a record setting gun shooting.

Have the character listening to the same crap from everyone he meets that day and instead of him being able to do anything about it no matter how he tries, he gets frustrated and runs for Congress as The Enemy of the NRA and wins his seat and national attention that seems to be triggered by his stand.

How is that for fantasy?

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whitebeach  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:42:18pm

re: #84 KGxvi

Imagine for a moment, how many dead there would have been in Manhattan if that guy had been able to get guns like the Vegas shooter had. On a holiday where there was a very popular parade. It’d be hundreds, no?

It’s why I no longer watch the celebration in Times Square on New Year’s Eve. Every damn minute I was waiting for something terrible to happen.

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Kragar  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:42:21pm

Yes, its satire

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:45:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:47:30pm

re: #90 Kragar

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At present three ageing satellites - DMSP F16, F17 and F18 - remain in operation, though they are all beginning to drift out of their orbits over the poles. The latest satellite in the series, F19, began to suffer sensor malfunctions last year and finally broke down a few weeks ago. It should have been replaced with the F20 probe, which had already been built and was being kept in storage by the US Air Force. However it had to be destroyed, on the orders of the US Congress, on the grounds that its storage was too costly.

“too costly”…good freaking grief…

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Belafon  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:50:13pm

re: #95 FormerDirtDart

What’s the point? They’re just going to die anyway.
Maybe God wanted him home.

- Right Wing Logic

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:51:10pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:52:18pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:52:43pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Spoken by someone who doesn’t have a clue. Stop promoting gun hoarding.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:53:29pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

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It’s easier to just rage if you’re a Trump bootlicker.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:53:52pm

re: #95 FormerDirtDart

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Why are they suspending fraternities? Everyone knows that won’t stop every case of alcohol poisoning on a college campus.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:54:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 12:57:18pm

re: #103 goddamnedfrank

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Yeah that could not be more wrong.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:00:36pm
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FormerDirtDart  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:00:38pm
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makeitstop  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:02:15pm

re: #106 FormerDirtDart

Saudi Arabia says Lebanon has declared war on it

So, they’re going to war?

Did Kushner green-light this shit?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:02:44pm
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FormerDirtDart  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:04:49pm
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mmmirele  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:05:00pm

re: #92 ObserverArt

This sounds like an idea for a commercial asking for some form of gun control. I like it. Unlike Groundhog Day, you can signal the passing of seasons by it being dark when the character wakes up to seeing the sun in the morning… or have it go in reverse to signal going into darkness without reform.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:06:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:06:45pm

re: #106 FormerDirtDart

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ObserverArt  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:06:48pm

re: #106 FormerDirtDart

The Jerusalem Post ✔@Jerusalem_Post
#BREAKING: Saudi Arabia says Lebanon has declared war on it dlvr.it
3:42 PM - Nov 6, 2017

Lovely. Just what we need more unrest in the Middle East and with the world’s “stable” countries having so many political problems.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:07:06pm

re: #33 Dave In Austin

You people need to just realize that here in Texas, we NEED a 30rd mags and bump stocks to hunt deer and faral hogs from a blind 30yrds from a mechanized corn feeder that goes off twice a day.

I would tease my son about Texas deer “hunting”. Feed them 364 days a year and then shoot them on the 365th day. That is not hunting, that is harvesting. You will have your hunting license taken away, maybe never to be issued again if you did that here in PA.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:07:40pm

re: #108 Charles Johnson

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And this is why I will never take NRO seriously. 26 people are dead ffs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:08:27pm

trivia for music history nerds:

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Skip Intro  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:09:08pm

re: #115 HappyWarrior

And this is why I will never take NRO seriously. 26 people are dead ffs.

You took them seriously before?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:09:29pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

Now this guy is accusing me of lying, of course. Blocked.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:09:38pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

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And that he possibly committed suicide.

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wrenchwench  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:11:05pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

[This is mind-bogglingly absurd. Nobody “stopped” this guy. He murdered 26 people.]

‘Good guy with a gun’ is getting old. He’s very slow now. Cane gets in the way.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:11:34pm

Saudi Arabia vs. Lebanon?

How does that work?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:13:02pm

re: #114 Eventual Carrion

I would tease my son about Texas deer “hunting”. Feed them 364 days a year and then shoot them on the 365th day. That is not hunting, that is harvesting. You will have your hunting license taken away, maybe never to be issued again if you did that here in PA.

Hunting over bait is legal in a surprisingly large number of states. PA seems to have the most restrictive rules.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:13:12pm
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dangerman  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:14:03pm

re: #108 Charles Johnson

In #Texas, A Good Guy With a Gun Stopped a Bad Guy With a Gun, But No One Truly Has Answers

This is mind-bogglingly absurd. Nobody “stopped” this guy. He murdered 26 people.

you HAVE to follow this through and let them have their asinine logic:

in their thinking - yeah 26 dead etc etc etc
AND a good guy with a gun stopped it from being way way worse - coulda been 50 dead or more (whether factually true or not)

which totally destroys the point that’s been made in 50 other ways in this thread - that unless something is 100% effective we shouldnt bother

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:15:35pm
But now, we’ve found an exception to this script. Because even though Devin Patrick Kelley, who murdered a lot of people in a Texas church yesterday with an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle, was a white man with a long history of domestic violence and obvious mental health issues, he also belonged to a group almost as demonized by the right as Muslims and minorities.

He was an atheist. And now they have their hook to attack the left with.

Of course. The Evangelical Grievance Industrial Complex will send out so many fundraising emails based on this they might defy the odds and stay afloat for another decade.

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whitebeach  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:15:41pm

re: #119 Mike Lamb

And that he possibly committed suicide.

Exactly. That’s why I never get into discussions about the details of godawful situations like this until some preponderance of the observable, verifiable facts are in. So far I haven’t seen anything official or authoritative about what actually happened as the shooter was leaving or how he was killed. But of course the “good guy with a gun” meme is already out there, and seven angels swearing the the shooter blew himself away won’t ever change that.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:16:43pm

re: #113 ObserverArt

Lovely. Just what we need more unrest in the Middle East and with the world’s “stable” countries having so many political problems.

Send in Jared.

/

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jaunte  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:17:42pm
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FormerDirtDart  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:18:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:18:12pm

re: #124 dangerman

that unless something is 100% effective we shouldnt bother

ahhh…completely explains their rationale against birth control…

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Weaselone  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:18:53pm

re: #106 FormerDirtDart

That seems strange. It would be like Honduras declaring war on the US. Unless this is a gambit from SA to start a war with Iran.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:19:26pm

re: #125 Sir John Barron

Of course. The Evangelical Grievance Industrial Complex will send out so many fundraising emails based on this they might defy the odds and stay afloat for another decade.

He was an atheist who taught Sunday School and Bible classes.

What a sneaky pete!

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dangerman  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:19:28pm

re: #128 jaunte

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every one a republican.

whoda thunk it?

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Belafon  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:20:06pm

re: #90 Kragar

“Now, for the low, low price of more than what you paid for the first time, we’ll supply you a satellite that you’ll have to pay us to get data from.” - Republican contributor

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:20:08pm

re: #128 jaunte

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Lots of money going Cruz’s way.

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jaunte  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:20:22pm

re: #133 dangerman

Those divergent trendlines, though.

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dangerman  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:20:54pm

re: #131 Weaselone

That seems strange. It would be like Honduras declaring war in the US. Unless this is a gambit from SA to start a war with Iran.

YouTube

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RiverBoy  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:23:03pm

The “good guy with a gun” narrative is just part of the fantasy that is gun ownership to many of the gun humpers. They love the thought of being a part of an active shooting situation so they can pull out their trusty red rider and single handily save the day. It is part of owning a gun to them so they have to throw it out there any chance they get. Only they and their gun of choice can truly save us from the evils of the world.

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whitebeach  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:23:38pm

re: #122 Blind Frog Belly White

Hunting over bait is legal in a surprisingly large number of states. PA seems to have the most restrictive rules.

Leave it to my state, Louisiana. Here it’s totes legal to hunt deer over bait—unless the bait is sweet potatoes, in which case the game warden is on your ass.

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(Bert the Turtle)  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:23:49pm

re: #57 wrenchwench

My dad used to drive that! Before I was born…

Or so he said. No pix, no check stubs. They’d pay people to drive it, right? Otherwise, who would?

Heh, I honestly don’t know. All I know is one morning I woke up to that big sausage parked out my bedroom window. It was there the whole time I lived at that house(Madison).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:24:45pm

what time is it in Japan?

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dangerman  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:25:11pm

re: #124 dangerman

you HAVE to follow this through and let them have their asinine logic:

in their thinking - yeah 26 dead etc etc etc
AND a good guy with a gun stopped it from being way way worse - coulda been 50 dead or more (whether factually true or not)

which totally destroys the point that’s been made in 50 other ways in this thread - that unless something is 100% effective we shouldnt bother

or to put a more, ahem, positive spin on it

if stopping a guy after he killed 26 and injured however many is a “success”, then by that very standard, it is imperative that measures that will only stop some future scenarios be immediately implemented!

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jaunte  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:25:46pm

re: #139 whitebeach

Leave it to my state, Louisiana. Here it’s totes legal to hunt deer over bait—unless the bait is sweet potatoes, in which case the game warden is on your ass.

Ok, I’ll ask. Why are the sweet potatoes forbidden?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:26:02pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

what time is it in Japan?

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Words spoken by someone who doesn’t have a clue about Virginia. Employment rate has gone down to below 4% here. Still considered a great place to do business. Northam just isn’t a racist shitface like Gillespie is.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:26:14pm

re: #129 FormerDirtDart

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Maybe they found out they were both banging a woman named Flora?
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Kragar  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:28:08pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:28:15pm

re: #120 wrenchwench

‘Good guy with a gun’ is getting old. He’s very slow now. Cane gets in the way.

So, he’s not Able?

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Kragar  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:29:18pm
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jaunte  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:29:46pm

re: #147 Blind Frog Belly White

So, he’s not Able?

No longer a man of the proper caliber.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:31:00pm

re: #138 RiverBoy

The “good guy with a gun” narrative is just part of the fantasy that is gun ownership to many of the gun humpers. They love the thought of being a part of an active shooting situation so they can pull out their trusty red rider and single handily save the day. It is part of owning a gun to them so they have to throw it out there any chance they get. Only they and their gun of choice can truly save us from the evils of the world.

They think Red Dawn was a documentary.

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whitebeach  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:33:37pm

re: #143 jaunte

Ok, I’ll ask. Why are the sweet potatoes forbidden?

You think I know?

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gocart mozart  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:34:14pm

The Parable of the Long Guns and Pistols

Republican Jesus told the crowd to sit down on the ground. Then he took the seven long guns and the pistols, and when he had given thanks, he gave them to the disciples, and they in turn to the people. They all fired them and were satisfied. Afterward the disciples picked up seven basketfuls of long guns and pistols that were left over. The number of those who fired guns was four thousand men, besides women and children. After Republican Jesus had sent the crowd away, he got into his Ford F-150 with the big gun rack and the NRA and “Hillary For Prison” stickers on the back and drove to the vicinity of Magadan

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:34:48pm

re: #139 whitebeach

Leave it to my state, Louisiana. Here it’s totes legal to hunt deer over bait—unless the bait is sweet potatoes, in which case the game warden is on your ass.

Huh. That’s weird.

A lot of the states where hunting over bait is allowed have way too many deer, so they’re hoping to reduce the numbers. A friend who lives in a Southern state told me that he could legally shoot a doe every day for the entire duration of the season*. Here in California, where there are a lot fewer deer, doe permits are hard to get. For most zones, I don’t even think you can get a doe tag.

* He doesn’t do THAT, but he does shoot quite a few, because that’s his family’s primary protein source.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:36:13pm

re: #145 Blind Frog Belly White

Maybe they found out they were both banging a woman named Flora?
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I was thinking maybe some of Rand’s flora kept showing up in vases over at the neighbor’s house. Especially noticed after the neighbor returned from business trips that coincided with senate recesses

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Kragar  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:36:33pm

re: #151 whitebeach

You think I know?

To avoid the spread of Sweet Potato weevils and rotting sweet potatoes can produce chemicals with produce pulmonary problems with wild life.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:36:53pm

re: #149 jaunte

No longer a man of the proper caliber.

He’s just a small bore.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:38:09pm

re: #146 Kragar

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“If nominated I will not run. If elected I will not serve.”

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:40:29pm

Sure, why not.
And, will they kill off Robin Wright’s character so that Leah Remini can take her job?

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Kragar  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:40:49pm
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Belafon  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:42:09pm

“We didn’t eliminate all Nazis, so World War II was pointless.”

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:43:06pm

re: #159 Kragar

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:43:47pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

what time is it in Japan?

Also, he’s up early to catch a flight

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wrenchwench  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:43:59pm

re: #159 Kragar

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‘Some sort of planting issue’.

Planting fake news. That’s what Antifa does.

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Jay C  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:45:11pm

re: #146 Kragar

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Jeez, but things in the MidEast are getting [even more] complicated [than usual]. And not in a good way. Apparently the Lebanese PM who just [maybe, kinda-sorta] resigned (Hariri) is regarded as a Saudi tool: and that his “resignation” was dictated by them as part of the Crown Prince’s recent coup/purge: seemingly to put the screws to Hezbollah, regarded as Iranian tools. And the Lebanese - who are mainly interested in trying to stay out of other folks’ fights - seem not to have been consulted. Even analysis by those who know stuff about the region - like Juan Cole - is still kind of opaque. But probably not positive.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:45:24pm

Ah yes the many Antifa doctors who live in Rand Paul’s neighborhood.

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whitebeach  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:45:24pm

re: #155 Kragar

To avoid the spread of Sweet Potato weevils and rotting sweet potatoes can produce chemicals with produce pulmonary problems with wild life.

I suspect you of googling that, since you don’t strike me as dumb enough to be the commissioner of the La. Dept. of Fish and Wildlife. Or commissioner of Ag either.

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gocart mozart  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:45:45pm

re: #159 Kragar

“Antifa”? More like plantifa.

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lawhawk  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:46:06pm

re: #106 FormerDirtDart

So, a country that is consistently wracked by civil war/strife because sectarian violence is just a terror attack away is now going to attack a country that isn’t directly bordering it and for what purpose?

I can’t wait for the inevitable conspiracy that Israel is behind this because that’s about the only thing that makes sense here. There’s no reason for Lebanon to declare war on Saudi Arabia.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:46:15pm

re: #158 FormerDirtDart

Sure, why not.
And, will they kill off Robin Wright’s character so that Leah Remini can take her job?

regret only one upding to give, etc.

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Kragar  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:47:29pm

re: #166 whitebeach

I suspect you of googling that, since you don’t strike me as dumb enough to be the commissioner of the La. Dept. of Fish and Wildlife. Or commissioner of Ag either.

Obviously you’re underestimating my love of random sweet potato trivia.

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RiverBoy  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:48:16pm

re: #150 Mike Lamb

Oh believe me, I know that all too well. Many of my childhood friends will still to this day say that it is their favorite movie. Yet they can’t really tell me anything about the movie, other than small town kids with guns stop a foreign invader. In the small town I grew up in I had many around me that it was their wet dreams that Russian soldiers would come parachuting down to invade us.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:48:25pm

re: #67 JordanRules

Interesting piece here.

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I don’t have kids so I was really surprised at how popular these videos are, but the implications here obviously go beyond the video content for kids.

That stuff is bizarre beyond belief.

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dangerman  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:48:26pm

re: #160 Belafon

“We didn’t eliminate all Nazis, so World War II was pointless.”

re: #142 dangerman

“he was stopped after he ‘only’ killed 26”

less than perfect solutions do work

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Belafon  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:51:20pm

re: #173 dangerman

“he was stopped after he ‘only’ killed 26”

less than perfect solutions do work

There’s no internal consistency to their arguments, that’s for sure.

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wrenchwench  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:52:06pm

re: #172 Scottish Dragon

That stuff is bizarre beyond belief.

I thought for a sec you meant Kragar.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:52:49pm

re: #173 dangerman

“he was stopped after he ‘only’ killed 26”

less than perfect solutions do work

“This vaccine only has 80% efficacy. We shouldn’t even bother using it.” said no Public Health Service director anywhere, ever.

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lawhawk  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:54:14pm

re: #108 Charles Johnson

What a numbnut.

26 were already murdered or dying before any good guy with a gun even acted.

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RiverBoy  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:55:51pm

re: #174 Belafon

In their “defense” it is pretty impossible to have consistency when all you do is spout BS.

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dangerman  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:57:31pm

re: #176 Blind Frog Belly White

“This vaccine only has 80% efficacy. We shouldn’t even bother using it.” said no Public Health Service director anywhere, ever.

and it can have side effects

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:57:37pm

re: #165 HappyWarrior

Ah yes the many Antifa doctors who live in Rand Paul’s neighborhood.

all of them….it’s Bowling Green after all…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:58:03pm

As long as guns are seen as a sacred talisman that will protect us from crime, terrorism and tyranny, then there will be no change.

And we have a gun industry that uses that mythology to successfully market its product and uses its profits to buy politicians who protect its vendors from the legal consequences of their irresponsible business practices.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:58:24pm

re: #177 lawhawk

What a numbnut.

26 were already murdered or dying before any good guy with a gun even acted.

Why is it Right Wing answers to problems always seem to involve more of whatever the problem is?

Too many shootings? We need more guns.

Income inequality? Rich people need lower taxes.

Corporations not paying taxes? We need to cut their tax rates.

Drug addiction ruining people’s lives? Let’s give ‘em a felony conviction.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:59:27pm

re: #170 Kragar

Obviously you’re underestimating my love of random sweet potato trivia.

not to mention sweet potato pie…

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Jay C  Nov 6, 2017 • 1:59:42pm

re: #168 lawhawk

So, a country that is consistently wracked by civil war/strife because sectarian violence is just a terror attack away is now going to attack a country that isn’t directly bordering it and for what purpose?

I can’t wait for the inevitable conspiracy that Israel is behind this because that’s about the only thing that makes sense here. There’s no reason for Lebanon to declare war on Saudi Arabia.

It’s not even that wild a CT: while, of course, it just wouldn’t do to be seen to be working TOO closely together, the Israelis and the Saudis have a common goal in trying to limit or roll back Iranian influence wherever they can. The Saudis because they want to be the local “Regional Power”, and the Israelis because 1) Iran is perceived as an irremedial threat: and 2) Hezbollah (a clear “danger” right across the border) are seen as Iranian proxies. And of course, another common factor is that the US, under Trump, has fostered good relations with both Israel and KSA: and concurrently adopted a policy of castigating Iran as the Designated Boogeyman for everything that’s Bad and Evil in the world. No surprise that Trump’s popularity is way higher in Israel than in most of the ROW…

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Kragar  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:00:15pm

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

not to mention sweet potato pie…

Oh, I can’t stand eating them. I just love knowing about them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:01:28pm

re: #185 Kragar

Oh, I can’t stand eating them. I just love knowing about them.

mohr pie for me then…I make an excellent sweet potato pie.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:02:53pm

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

mohr pie for me then…I make an excellent sweet potato pie.

I am glad that sweet potatoes finally caught on in Germany, they are available now most everywhere in supermarkets…I always loved them

As Popeye says in German: ich Süsskartoffel was ich Süsskartoffel

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whitebeach  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:04:27pm

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

mohr pie for me then…I make an excellent sweet potato pie.

Miss, I’m Agent Beach with Louisiana Fish and Wildlife. You’re under arrest for spreading sweet potato weevils. You have the right to remain silent …

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:05:21pm

Didn’t like sweet potatoes when I was younger but they’ve grown on me.

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whitebeach  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:06:33pm

re: #189 HappyWarrior

Didn’t like sweet potatoes when I was younger but they’ve grown on me.

Probably need to shower more often.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:06:38pm

re: #188 whitebeach

Miss, I’m Agent Beach with Louisiana Fish and Wildlife. You’re under arrest for spreading sweet potato weevils. You have the right to remain silent …

young man, I will have you know that those weevils are, shall we say, merely substitute raisins.
and they are an excellent source of protein…

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Dave In Austin  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:07:15pm

re: #188 whitebeach

Miss, I’m Agent Beach with Louisiana Fish and Wildlife. You’re under arrest for spreading sweet potato weevils. You have the right to remain silent …

The question is, do they weevil when they walk?

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:07:28pm
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whitebeach  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:08:33pm

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

young man, I will have you know that those weevils are, shall we say, merely substitute raisins.
and they are an excellent source of protein…

(unlocking cuffs): You had me at “young man.”

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electrotek  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:09:59pm

So was he actually an atheist or not? Simply “liking” Facebook pages doesn’t automatically mean he was an atheist.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:11:40pm

re: #195 electrotek

So was he actually an atheist or not? Simply “liking” Facebook pages doesn’t automatically mean he was an atheist.

Exactly. Sometimes people “like” a page so they can troll them. And if they want to play that game, there’s been plenty of believers that have committed murders before.

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electrotek  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:13:39pm

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Exactly. Sometimes people “like” a page so they can troll them. And if they want to play that game, there’s been plenty of believers that have committed murders before.

It was different with the Quebec City shooter, since his “likes” were consistent with his behavior in real life.

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electrotek  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:14:18pm

Although douchebags like Sam Harris can’t hide behind the lack of belief preventing people from mass murder line, if indeed it turns out that he was an atheist after all.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:16:03pm

re: #197 electrotek

It was different with the Quebec City shooter, since his “likes” were consistent with his behavior in real life.

Right. Just saying as you are that FB likes don’t necessarily prove anything.

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makeitstop  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:16:39pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:17:17pm

re: #200 makeitstop

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But Obamacare is a failure! //

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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:19:29pm

re: #199 HappyWarrior

Right. Just saying as you are that FB likes don’t necessarily prove anything.

Just like Facebook friends aren’t necessarily friends. /////

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Charles Johnson  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:20:03pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:20:22pm

The NRA’s puppet speaks up:

Asked by a unseen reporter, “And do we need gun control now, sir?” Cruz shook his head and looked down before accusing the press of politicizing the shooting.

“You know, it is an unfortunate thing that the first place the media goes after any murder is politicizing it,” Cruz stated. “We don’t need politics right now. You know, I would note in New York we saw a terror attack just this week with a truck. Evil is evil is evil, and it will use the weaponry that is available.”

Cruz then went on to say “And I will help my good buddy Wayne ensure that as many weapons end up in the hands of evil people as possible to provide a healthy return for gun manufacturers.”

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:22:45pm

re: #203 Charles Johnson

I guess if I had to pick a place, I’d prefer to get shot at a hospital.

///

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electrotek  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:23:03pm

re: #204 Targetpractice

The NRA’s puppet speaks up:

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Cruz then went on to say “And I will help my good buddy Wayne ensure that as many weapons end up in the hands of evil people as possible to provide a healthy return for gun manufacturers.”

And yet he had no problem calling for ‘Muslim patrols’ after Brussels.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:23:58pm

May have been mentioned earlier but the cyclist who flipped off Trumps motorcade in the viral photo has been fired from her job.

Apparently her company does some government work and they deemed her in violation of their social media ban on “obscene content”.

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electrotek  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:24:42pm

re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg

May have been mentioned earlier but the cyclist who flipped off Trumps motorcade in the viral photo has been fires from her job.

Apparently her company does some government work and they deemed her in violation of their social media ban on “obscene content”.

I can’t fault her company for enforcing their policy, honestly.

But she doesn’t care anyways so it’s a moot point.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:26:37pm

The only thing that will stop the opioid crisis is more opioids.

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wrenchwench  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:27:49pm

re: #208 electrotek

I can’t fault her company for enforcing their policy, honestly.

But she doesn’t care anyways so it’s a moot point.

Is it called ‘moot’ when it’s the middle one pointing up?

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:30:05pm

Oh man this sucks.
Woman Who Flipped Off Trump’s Motorcade Has Been Fired, Has No Regrets
theslot.jezebel.com

“They said, ‘We’re separating from you,’” said Briskman. “Basically, you cannot have ‘lewd’ or ‘obscene’ things in your social media. So they were calling flipping him off ‘obscene.’”
Briskman says she argued that she should be able to keep her job, since a male colleague was only reprimanded for calling someone a “fucking libtard asshole” on Facebook. But Akima told her that as government contractors, rude hand gestures towards the president is bad for business. Which is probably true, the president is very sensitive.

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Belafon  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:32:12pm

re: #211 Unshaken Defiance

Oh man this sucks.
Woman Who Flipped Off Trump’s Motorcade Has Been Fired, Has No Regrets
theslot.jezebel.com

We’ve called for companies to fire Nazis, so I’m not surprised a government contractor would fire someone that might have hurt Trump’s feelings.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:38:06pm

re: #211 Unshaken Defiance

Oh man this sucks.
Woman Who Flipped Off Trump’s Motorcade Has Been Fired, Has No Regrets
theslot.jezebel.com

Honestly, I can’t be too upset about this. I mean, yeah, I agree with her and I applaud her for it, but that’s up to the company and she has to own her consequences.

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KGxvi  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:38:26pm

re: #205 Flying Squirrel Girl

I guess if I had to pick a place, I’d prefer to get shot at a hospital.

///

I’d prefer to be shot in the foot. Seems like the easiest gun shot to treat.

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wrenchwench  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:40:59pm

re: #211 Unshaken Defiance

Oh man this sucks.
Woman Who Flipped Off Trump’s Motorcade Has Been Fired, Has No Regrets
theslot.jezebel.com

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makeitstop  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:42:24pm

This fucking guy…he gave Abe a hat that said ‘Donald and Shinzo: Make alliance even greater.’

I think Abe’s facial expression says it all.

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allegro  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:46:16pm

re: #216 makeitstop

This fucking guy…he gave Abe a hat that said ‘Donald and Shinzo: Make alliance even greater.’

[Embedded content]

I think Abe’s facial expression says it all.

Donnie didn’t give Shinzo his fraternity pin? Carve a heart and their initials in a tree?

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jaunte  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:46:38pm
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fern01  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:50:13pm

re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg

May have been mentioned earlier but the cyclist who flipped off Trumps motorcade in the viral photo has been fired from her job.

Apparently her company does some government work and they deemed her in violation of their social media ban on “obscene content”.

It’s worth reading the full story - not everyone gets fired for negative social media
washingtonpost.com

Because Briskman was in charge of the firm’s social media presence during her six-month tenure there, she recently flagged something that did link her company to some pretty ugly stuff.
As she was monitoring Facebook this summer, she found a public comment by a senior director at the company in an otherwise civil discussion by one of his employees about Black Lives Matter.
“You’re a f——— Libtard a———,” the director injected, using his profile that clearly and repeatedly identifies himself as an employee of the firm.
In fact, the person he aimed that comment at was so offended by the intrusion into the conversation and the coarse nature of it that he challenged the director on representing Akima that way.
So Briskman flagged the exchange to senior management.
Did the man, a middle-aged executive who had been with the company for seven years, get the old “Section 4.3” boot?
Nope. He cleaned up the comment, spit-shined his public profile and kept on trucking at work.

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gwangung  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:51:35pm

re: #219 fern01

Well, that also sounds like internal revenge…

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Targetpractice  Nov 6, 2017 • 2:55:27pm

re: #218 jaunte

[Embedded content]

So he was booted in 2014, yet it took the USAF 3 years and 26 deaths to realize somebody forgot to process the paperwork.

In any other field of work, that sort of SNAFU would end your career.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2017 • 3:04:25pm

re: #213 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Honestly, I can’t be too upset about this. I mean, yeah, I agree with her and I applaud her for it, but that’s up to the company and she has to own her consequences.

She made no mention of the company on her FB page, but the male colleague used the company logo on HIS page.

But….reasons….

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 6, 2017 • 3:15:10pm

re: #31 Kragar

Pastor Fien looks like Gary Oldman’s character in ‘The Hitman’s Bodyguard.’

It appears he thinks the same way too.

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Nyet  Nov 6, 2017 • 3:18:30pm

Aww, how cute: our little Nazi sympathizer thinks there’s something to the insane frothing-at-the-mouth CT “Pizzagate”:

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mmmirele  Nov 6, 2017 • 3:19:09pm

Well, well, this is interesting. It came out of the Paradise Papers, but involves a Utah bank.

How one bank stays in business:

Russia’s richest oligarch, Leonid Mikhelson, had a private jet secretly registered in the United States and he did it with the help of Bank of Utah, based in Ogden.

The community bank, with 19 locations, has a side business creating aircraft trusts, largely for people who don’t want their names on any public documents. Such transactions, while legal, have been criticized by some members of Congress and federal auditors as major security risks.

*snip*

Bank of Utah manages at least 1,390 aircraft trusts, making millions in fees. This is not the first time one of its trusts caused an international stir. In 2014, a small jet was spotted at the airport in Tehran, Iran, that was registered to Bank of Utah, which may have violated of [sic] U.S. sanctions.

sltrib.com

This just makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. Mikhelson is not on the OFAC list (I just checked), but HOLY CRAP.

ETA: I did a bit more reading and it appears my evil too big to fail employer is was up to its neck in these aircraft trusts. *rolls eyes* I guess I have something to ask next week when the president comes here for a town hall meeting, don’t I? Looks like these guys moved over to Bank of Utah!

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electrotek  Nov 6, 2017 • 3:21:00pm

People are demented to think this was a “success”

Him: Meanwhile a citizen across the street eliminated the threat… with an AR-15.
Me: After 26 people were killed…you consider that a success?
Him: Yes… he didn’t kill anyone else at any other locations. Where was your mythical SWAT team… hell, where was a beat cop to stop the threat?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2017 • 3:22:52pm

re: #226 electrotek

People are demented to think this was a “success”

Him: Meanwhile a citizen across the street eliminated the threat… with an AR-15.
Me: After 26 people were killed…you consider that a success?
Him: Yes… he didn’t kill anyone else at any other locations. Where was your mythical SWAT team… hell, where was a beat cop to stop the threat?

There was NO GUY ACROSS THE STREET who “eliminated the threat”…or ANY OTHER threat…

Good freaking grief.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2017 • 3:24:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 3:24:53pm

re: #224 Nyet

Aww, how cute: our little Nazi sympathizer thinks there’s something to the insane frothing-at-the-mouth CT “Pizzagate”:

[Embedded content]

Pizzagate’s got nothing to do with Hollywood. That guy’s a dingus.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 3:25:47pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Here in Virginia: alcohol. Know wine was already mentioned but you can only buy liquor commerically at a state licensed store

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KGxvi  Nov 6, 2017 • 3:26:11pm

re: #226 electrotek

People are demented to think this was a “success”

Him: Meanwhile a citizen across the street eliminated the threat… with an AR-15.
Me: After 26 people were killed…you consider that a success?
Him: Yes… he didn’t kill anyone else at any other locations. Where was your mythical SWAT team… hell, where was a beat cop to stop the threat?

Reminds me of Mr. Pink in Reservoir Dogs pointing out that they were set up… unless by some strange coincidence there was a cop right there when it happened, the response would take longer.

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Targetpractice  Nov 6, 2017 • 3:27:30pm

re: #226 electrotek

People are demented to think this was a “success”

Him: Meanwhile a citizen across the street eliminated the threat… with an AR-15.
Me: After 26 people were killed…you consider that a success?
Him: Yes… he didn’t kill anyone else at any other locations. Where was your mythical SWAT team… hell, where was a beat cop to stop the threat?

Even if this were true, that’s really the sad fact of the whole “good guy with a gun” BS: The “best” it has ever been able to do is prevent further bloodshed. There is no verifiable evidence that it has ever acted as a deterrent, but shitloads of evidence that having a gun in your home raises numerous risks (particularly suicide) through the roof.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 6, 2017 • 3:30:24pm

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

There was NO GUY ACROSS THE STREET who “eliminated the threat”…or ANY OTHER threat…

Good freaking grief.

Also, even if true, the last thing I want is a bunch of arm chair snipers popping off shots trying to be a hero.

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jaunte  Nov 6, 2017 • 3:31:02pm
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Mike Lamb  Nov 6, 2017 • 3:31:57pm

Christ, Vegas and the recent Walmart shooting in Thornton, CO should also kill the zombie myth of the good guy with a gun. In the latter, several people were armed at the Walmart and were able to do fuck all about the shooting. They did, however, manage to slow down law enforcement as they had to clear every asshole that pulled their gun out in the store.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 3:33:01pm

re: #235 Mike Lamb

Christ, Vegas and the recent Walmart shooting in Thornton, CO should also kill the zombie myth of the good guy with a gun. In the latter, several people were armed at the Walmart and were able to do fuck all about the shooting. They did, however, manage to slow down law enforcement as they had to clear every asshole that pulled their gun out in the store.

I seem to recall in Tucson when Giffords was shot at. There was a CCW on site who considered raising his gun but changed his mind because he knew it would make the situation which was already hectic for LEO even worse.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 6, 2017 • 3:35:05pm
238
jaunte  Nov 6, 2017 • 3:39:40pm
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fern01  Nov 6, 2017 • 3:39:56pm

re: #237 Charles Johnson

Wouldn’t the president* like to use similar options to remove any opposition

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fern01  Nov 6, 2017 • 3:41:08pm

re: #236 HappyWarrior

I seem to recall in Tucson when Giffords was shot at. There was a CCW on site who considered raising his gun but changed his mind because he knew it would make the situation which was already hectic for LEO even worse.

I believe he was nearly killed by the police because they thought he was the attacker.

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meteor  Nov 6, 2017 • 3:42:08pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 6, 2017 • 3:42:10pm

Some men just want to watch the world birth.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 6, 2017 • 3:49:01pm

re: #236 HappyWarrior

I seem to recall in Tucson when Giffords was shot at. There was a CCW on site who considered raising his gun but changed his mind because he knew it would make the situation which was already hectic for LEO even worse.

I can’t recall if that happened or not. Several people made the same comment re: the Vegas shooting.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 6, 2017 • 3:50:37pm

re: #236 HappyWarrior

I seem to recall in Tucson when Giffords was shot at. There was a CCW on site who considered raising his gun but changed his mind because he knew it would make the situation which was already hectic for LEO even worse.

IIRC, it was worse than that. There was someone he was ALMOST SURE was the shooter, but he didn’t shoot at him.

It wasn’t the shooter.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 6, 2017 • 3:51:05pm
246
austin_blue  Nov 6, 2017 • 3:58:14pm

re: #232 Targetpractice

Even if this were true, that’s really the sad fact of the whole “good guy with a gun” BS: The “best” it has ever been able to do is prevent further bloodshed. There is no verifiable evidence that it has ever acted as a deterrent, but shitloads of evidence that having a gun in your home raises numerous risks (particularly suicide) through the roof.

The town is unincorporated. It has no police dept. LEOs are provided by Wilson County.

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gocart mozart  Nov 6, 2017 • 4:05:31pm

re: #238 jaunte

Jared Kushner, Donald Trump’s son-in-law and top adviser, wakes up each morning to a growing problem that will not go away. His family’s real estate business, Kushner Cos., owes hundreds of millions of dollars on a 41-story office building on Fifth Avenue. It has failed to secure foreign investors, despite an extensive search, and its resources are more limited than generally understood. As a result, the company faces significant challenges.

bloomberg.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 6, 2017 • 4:07:20pm

I am going to Israel in 2 weeks. I hope it’s still there.

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Sea Mexican!  Nov 6, 2017 • 4:11:44pm

re: #248 The Vicious Babushka

I am going to Israel in 2 weeks. I hope it’s still there.

Have fun!

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austin_blue  Nov 6, 2017 • 4:16:38pm

re: #248 The Vicious Babushka

I am going to Israel in 2 weeks. I hope it’s still there.

If Israel isn’t there, very little else will be either, at least as far as population is concerned.

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gocart mozart  Nov 6, 2017 • 4:18:51pm

Booman and I agree

Let me put it this way. If your neighbor attacked you like this while you were mowing your lawn and you didn’t think you had it coming, would you call it an “unfortunate incident,” file a police report that minimized your injuries, and be satisfied with a misdemeanor charge?

It would irresponsible not to speculate that there’s more to this story. Perhaps the real Bowling Green Massacre was caused by a little hanky panky going on at the cul-de-sac?

boomantribune.com

If you keep mum about the affair, I’ll get the prosecutor to go easy on you.

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dangerman  Nov 6, 2017 • 4:19:25pm

re: #248 The Vicious Babushka

I am going to Israel in 2 weeks. I hope it’s still there.

it better had
my niece is there teaching english

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austin_blue  Nov 6, 2017 • 4:21:48pm

I’m hearing Betsy DeVos is resigning.

Hmmm…

254
Skip Intro  Nov 6, 2017 • 4:23:17pm

re: #253 austin_blue

I’m hearing Betsy DeVos is resigning.

Hmmm…

From who?

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austin_blue  Nov 6, 2017 • 4:24:33pm

re: #251 gocart mozart

Booman and I agree

boomantribune.com

Both are MDs and have known each other > 17 years. Neighbors forever. Maybe professional courtesy, maybe acute embarrassment on the part of Luap Nor’s son.

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CBGB  Nov 6, 2017 • 4:25:14pm

re: #244 Blind Frog Belly White

Band members were packing, didn’t take ‘em out.

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gocart mozart  Nov 6, 2017 • 4:26:09pm

re: #255 austin_blue

Nah.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 6, 2017 • 4:28:34pm

Kentucky Flora arrangements are often tragic:

When first I came to Louisville, some pleasure there to find
A damsel there from Lexington was pleasing to my mind
Her rosy cheeks, her ruby lips, like arrows pierced my breast
And the name she bore was Flora, the lily of the west.

Youtube Video

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Charles Johnson  Nov 6, 2017 • 4:29:48pm

re: #253 austin_blue

I’m hearing Betsy DeVos is resigning.

Hmmm…

This rumor is being spread by Scott Dworkin and Palmer Report, two notoriously undependable sources.

This is the kind of bullshit Dworkin always spreads — he’s part of the Louise Mensch axis of left wing fake news.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 6, 2017 • 4:30:31pm

He’s “received reports,” right - from the radio signals he picks up with the fillings in his teeth.

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lawhawk  Nov 6, 2017 • 4:31:19pm

re: #260 Charles Johnson

It’s the tin foil hat.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 6, 2017 • 4:32:45pm

re: #91 HappyWarrior

Is there anything that the House GOP actually does positive?

No.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 6, 2017 • 4:33:55pm

re: #260 Charles Johnson

He’s “received reports,” right - from the radio signals he picks up with the fillings in his teeth.

“But I saw it on the internet! It must be true!”

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Charles Johnson  Nov 6, 2017 • 4:43:15pm

Scott Dworkin is horrible and he’s been busted outright many times pushing completely fake stories. But he has 240,000 followers on Twitter! What the fuck is going on in this country? Even liberals are falling for fake news in droves. It’s goddamned depressing.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 6, 2017 • 4:47:33pm

re: #264 Charles Johnson

Scott Dworkin is horrible and he’s been busted outright many times pushing completely fake stories. But he has 240,000 followers on Twitter! What the fuck is going on in this country? Even liberals are falling for fake news in droves. It’s goddamned depressing.

Welcome to post-modern America. Everything you think is just as valid as everything everyone thinks. Bannon and his antecedents just did the inevitable weaponization of credulity.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2017 • 4:49:52pm

re: #264 Charles Johnson

Scott Dworkin is horrible and he’s been busted outright many times pushing completely fake stories. But he has 240,000 followers on Twitter! What the fuck is going on in this country? Even liberals are falling for fake news in droves. It’s goddamned depressing.

People unfortunately left and right believe what they want to hear. It’s depressing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2017 • 4:51:40pm

Just dropped a bunch of money at Amazon, so Charles gets a little commission via the LGF Associates button up on the right hand corner at top.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 6, 2017 • 4:54:51pm

re: #264 Charles Johnson

Scott Dworkin is horrible and he’s been busted outright many times pushing completely fake stories. But he has 240,000 followers on Twitter! What the fuck is going on in this country? Even liberals are falling for fake news in droves. It’s goddamned depressing.

Even the rational get tired and prone to wish fulfillment stories. Mrs. FBW is constantly asking me whether this or that source is credible.

The other thing? It feels like we’re entering another dimension, where truth doesn’t matter, and may not even exist. It’s like EVERY SINGLE ARGUMENT is like trying to argue Evolution with Creationists. It becomes hard to hold tight to reality.

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unproven innocence  Nov 6, 2017 • 4:58:00pm

re: #3 makeitstop

OT: Wonder what’s happening here.

[short_version] Possibly some widespread attacks on time-services that rely on UDP?
[/short_version]

[Long]
I’ll hazard a wild guess, based on thin evidence. Earlier today, I had trouble getting a secure connection to onlinebank[dot]com, which my local bank hands off to. Got warning “This Connection Is Untrusted” … “invalid security certificate” etc. Made hardcopy, but I’d overlooked this part:
The certificate expired on Wednesday, November 22, 2017 7:00 AM. The current time is Wednesday December 06, 2017 11:11 AM.

Later today, found that the PC on which I got the cert warning had it’s system time slightly wrong: 12 for month instead of 11. Fixed, and connection for my banking then worked.

In the wee hours Sunday, I _had_ temporarily experimented with setting my time zone to GMT+0, for some PCs and routers, but then I changed things back. So even if I DID make a blunder in that, it doesn’t explain the more widespread troubles.
[/Long]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2017 • 5:00:31pm

re: #240 fern01

I believe he was nearly killed by the police because they thought he was the attacker.

No. He never drew his gun.

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fern01  Nov 6, 2017 • 5:27:17pm

re: #270 Backwoods_Sleuth

No. He never drew his gun.

I can’t remember what I did yesterday, so no surprise if I have this memory wrong.

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austin_blue  Nov 6, 2017 • 5:33:15pm

re: #260 Charles Johnson

He’s “received reports,” right - from the radio signals he picks up with the fillings in his teeth.

Ah! Then…never mind.

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boredtechindenver  Nov 6, 2017 • 5:56:41pm

re: #3 makeitstop

OT: Wonder what’s happening here.

[Embedded content]

Level 3 / Comcast BGP issue caused Internet outage.

Summary: The IP NOC was informed of a significant client impact which seemed to
originate on the east coast. The IP NOC began investigating, and soon
discovered that the service impact was occurring in various markets across the
United States. The issue was isolated to a policy change that was implemented
to a single router in error while trying to configure an individual customer
BGP. This policy change affected a major public peering session. The IP NOC
reverted the policy change to restore services to a stable state.


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