Seth Meyers: Trump Travels to Asia as Russia Probe Escalates
Seth takes a closer look at how Trump can’t seem to escape the escalating Russia investigation, even when he is abroad in Asia.
Seth takes a closer look at how Trump can’t seem to escape the escalating Russia investigation, even when he is abroad in Asia.
“The GOP fares even worse in the poll, with only 30 percent of Americans polled having a favorable view”
Why wasn’t THIS the headline?— aceoaces (@aceoaces) November 7, 2017
WAT MEDIA BIAS?
re: #2 Ace-o-aces
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WAT MEDIA BIAS?
The media get paid best if they can present the illusion of two equal sides.
Spartanburg SC:
USC Upstate is on lockdown. All buildings are on lockdown. Shooting confirmed at Campus Edge Apartments. Suspect on foot near campus.
— USC Upstate (@USCUpstate) November 7, 2017
Suspect is black male wearing khaki pants and grey hoodies carrying an automatic weapon. Shooting occurred at Campus Edge. Remain inside.
— USC Upstate (@USCUpstate) November 7, 2017
Go Mueller! Probe deeper and faster, please! F’ Trump before he f’s us.
🚨We are getting reports of calls to Virginia voters falsely saying that their polling place has changed. 🚨
If you receive a call:
✔️Confirm your polling place at https://t.co/3NmwdTvoHb
✔️ Report it to @ACLUVA at[no phone numbers allowed]#ElectionDay #vagov— ACLU (@ACLU) November 7, 2017
The RNC emails that landed in inboxes of Democrats suddenly overnight suggested the same thing in the very first line. https://t.co/28RvJsLh6i
— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) November 7, 2017
re: #5 S’latch
Go Mueller! Probe deeper and faster, please! F’ Trump before he f’s us.
We all want to see DT get it hard and fast, but I am sure that Mueller is going at the pace he has determined necessary to be most effective.
GOPer on tax cuts: Donors are saying “get it done or don’t ever call me again” https://t.co/I1BWz38cpG pic.twitter.com/oyc1GisPpd
— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) November 7, 2017
If GOP taxed the rich and the Middle class had more money, they would actually increase their Donor base and not have to face these threats https://t.co/AzAV8RBlAt
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) November 7, 2017
Another note but I talked to the people at the precinct. Even with the drizzly weather. Turn out is high.
re: #11 Kragar
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Oh so they admit they’re the tools of the rich. Good to know, guys.
re: #15 HappyWarrior
Yep. Unlike Dumbo Jr, I know how to vote.
Dotard Jr may actually be dumber than Papa Dotard. Frightening thought.
re: #11 Kragar
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I wonder how empty a threat this is. After all, rich donors watch FOX too. I wonder what percentage of them belong to the cult, and will do whatever is required to indulge their hate. We know that regardless of what Republicans do to the average Republican voter, they will still reliably show up and vote Republican, because they are indoctrinated with hate daily. On some level, this must also be true of the rich donor class as well.
Nice show of solidarity.
Critics might be contrarian. But we have each other’s backs. pic.twitter.com/FshfWSN81X
— Amy Nicholson (@TheAmyNicholson) November 7, 2017
re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth
oh lookie…a Russian troll farm bot just attempted to follow me. It got reported and met my block button instead.
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You didn’t think all those numbers in hisher avi were legit?
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NEW: Texas gunman escaped New Mexico mental health facility in 2012, according to documents obtained by @KHOU https://t.co/T97L7KKctU pic.twitter.com/V8NxmX3UMh
— CBS News (@CBSNews) November 7, 2017
Trump Jr. wants everyone to “vote TODY!”#LikeFatherLikeSon pic.twitter.com/iqjeZYuO7o
— Laffy (@GottaLaff) November 7, 2017
re: #21 Sir John Barron
You didn’t think all those numbers in hisher avi were legit?
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I have communicated with actual people who have a bunch of random numbers in their Twitter ID. It’s because they attempted to register with a screen name of some popular character or celebrity that’s already being used and Twitter assigned a bunch of random numbers so their ID would be unique.
But yeah I am suspicious of Twitter IDs full of random numbers.
If you are happy that Hillary Clinton will never be your president, get out and VOTE TODAY!#ElectionDay #Election2017
— Trump’s America (@DeplorableBoo) November 7, 2017
The deplorables are voting today. Are you? #vote #ElectionDay https://t.co/2HluXPbJmZ https://t.co/fqZ4qbbjkF
— Rabbi Ruti Regan (@RutiRegan) November 7, 2017
CNN poll: Favorable views of the Democratic Party have dropped to their lowest mark in more than a quarter century https://t.co/r7d4tBiG9R pic.twitter.com/sIdM5hSrAb
— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) November 7, 2017
Article also states that favorable views of the Republican Party are seven points lower. Not that you would emphasize that in a headline. https://t.co/tpzQu4JW9o
— Bearded Stoner (@beardedstoner) November 7, 2017
JUST IN: Cruz breaks with party’s tax plan: It’s “a mistake” to raise taxes for any Americans https://t.co/SGyjupI1Vt pic.twitter.com/g1fr5oIKeb
— The Hill (@thehill) November 7, 2017
here it comes…
BREAKING: Houston TV station: Texas church shooter was in mental health center in New Mexico and briefly escaped in 2012.
— The Associated Press (@AP) November 7, 2017
re: #2 Ace-o-aces
Although I do agree that our media has to keep the both sides narrative going to keep the status quo rolling, I do think the fact that Democrats are polling so bad is a huge story and worthy of a headline like that. Republicans polling so low is nothing new. It has been quite obvious to anyone that pays attention that the Republican party has been a corrupted party for many years. The GOP used the election of a half black man as our President to rile up their base with hate and get them out to vote in droves. Now the Democrats have been given a gift of the GOP electing the most despised man to ever sit in the Oval Office and still the Democrats are unable to get their message out. They can not rally their base behind any meaningful policies and instead are strictly relying on the fact their base absolutely hates the President. That may have worked for the GOP base that won’t work for the DNC base forever. Eventually they are going to need to get behind something that gets the people of this country excited and give them a sense that the party is truly working for the people. Instead what I see is a big part of the Democratic party that would prefer to keep on relying on big money donors to fund their campaigns. Again that is a great strategy for the GOP because their base does not care as long as their representatives hate the same things they hate. It is a horrible strategy for the DNC because their base actually does care about things like the appearance of corruption. The DNC needs to change their ways when it comes to money in politics or this country will continue to be a rightwing nation.
Here’s my new handle. Glad to be part of the Twitterverse. Grateful to Reinhold for the cover these last few years.
— James Comey (@Comey) November 6, 2017
Cool. Go vote. Country first. https://t.co/4oNot6bOwU
— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) November 7, 2017
Under-told story of 2017: Democrats are in a bad placehttps://t.co/0D63i85RZC
— Chris Cillizza (@CillizzaCNN) November 7, 2017
Says the guy who keeps telling this story over and over and over. https://t.co/MLExYBPmzN
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 7, 2017
re: #31 Charles Johnson
Under-told story of 2017: Democrats are in a bad placehttps://t.co/0D63i85RZC
— Chris Cillizza (@CillizzaCNN) November 7, 2017
narrator: literally nothing has been a more told story in the year 2017https://t.co/9uCUMgl6pE
— andrea grimes (@andreagrimes) November 7, 2017
re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth
When someone self-identifies as a deplorable bigot, you know the thing they’re happy about harms America.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) November 7, 2017
I’m going to vote on my way home from work. I double-checked the location.
We’ve got instant run-off voting in the Twin Cities for our mayoral races, so we get to choose up to six candidates (out of 10 in St. Paul). There’s a box for first choice, then another box for second, and so on down the line.
I don’t think that my first choice is going to win, but my second choice is going to be in the top two so I don’t feel like I’m throwing away my vote. The other guy in the top two is someone I’ve never liked as a councilman, but he’s still a democrat (not one of the ten is identifying as republican). He’s way down on my list but at least I know he won’t wreck the city.
re: #29 RiverBoy
So, I’m guessing you missed the announcement the other day from the party on their labor platform? Would have been easy since people were focused on fish feeding.
re: #29 RiverBoy
I agree. I don’t understand why Democrats aren’t able to rally their voters against the Bigot-in-Chief who is leading an incompetent party and has horrible policies which will only hurt the working class and benefit the wealthy. Plus, with the Russia interference and general sleaziness of the Trump administration, Democrats should be doing much better with the general public.
We have a few months to get our act together and Democratic leadership must do better so we can flip Congress.
I think a lot of Democrats’ problems is we do a lot of self-defeating. Instead of standing up for HRC, a lot of us were like “Yeah she sucks but what are we going to do about” rather than being proud to have her as our nominee. I saw that with Kerry in 2004 too.
re: #37 Belafon
I missed it too. Where was it hidden?
re: #38 Patricia Kayden
You need a leader to do that. Who is the leader of the Democrats?
re: #39 HappyWarrior
That is so true. There are folks on the Left who have demonized Secretary Clinton and are STILL arguing that she is corrupt. It’s mind boggling to me. I didn’t vote for her in 2008 because I believed that President Obama was a better candidate but proudly supported her last year. Whatever faults she has, she would have been a dang sight better than the ignoramus currently occupying the White House.
Voting today was depressing.
Tom Massie, my totally horrible libertarian freedum caucus congresscritter, is up for reelection.
The Dem on the ballot is a total unknown who raised no money, spent no money, and never campaigned.
The independent candidate is actually a member of the American Solidarity Party, so she was a no go for me right at the start.
I voted for the unknown dem only because there was no “none of the above” option.
Political options in Kentucky really suck.
re: #41 Skip Intro
You need a leader to do that. Who is the leader of the Democrats?
This is a question we definitely need answered.
Political systems in other countries have designated party leaders. The U.S. does not and I really think that goes part of the way in explaining this mess we’re in right now.
re: #42 Patricia Kayden
That is so true. There are folks on the Left who have demonized Secretary Clinton and are STILL arguing that she is corrupt. It’s mind boggling to me. I didn’t vote for her in 2008 because I believed that President Obama was a better candidate but proudly supported her last year. Whatever faults she has, she would have been a dang sight better than the ignoramus currently occupying the White House.
One of my purer than thou friends from out of state today was talking about how poor our choices were in the gubernatorial race here today. Northam wasn’t my first choice but he’s way better than Gillespie.
re: #44 Eclectic Cyborg
This is a question we definitely need answered.
Political systems in other countries have designated party leaders. The U.S. does not and I really think that goes part of the way in explaining this mess we’re in right now.
Yeah parliamentary countries have shadow governments. It might be nice to have someone to correspond to Pruitt in the EPA.
re: #39 HappyWarrior
I think a lot of Democrats’ problems is we do a lot of self-defeating. Instead of standing up for HRC, a lot of us were like “Yeah she sucks but what are we going to do about” rather than being proud to have her as our nominee. I saw that with Kerry in 2004 too.
Oh yes, that. Plus if the goopers come over now, that means that they were obviously wrong and we were obviously right. Over time, they can convince themselves that they never supported the Idiot in the first place. Funny how there weren’t a lot of people who had voted for Nixon by the time 1975 rolled around.
re: #40 Skip Intro
Here’s some of the things proposed to make work better:
•A “federal law that provides public workers with the same rights and freedom to engage in collective bargaining as their private sector counterparts,” designed to prevent the piecemeal right-to-work efforts that have taken off in Republican-run states since 2011.
•A ban on state “right-to-work” laws altogether, as “they have been found to reduce union membership by up to 10 percent and have resulted in lower wages and decreased access to employer-provided health care and pensions.”
•Making it easier to strike with a “ban [on] the permanent replacement of striking workers.”
•Limiting employers’ ability to campaign against union drives. “When companies taint the election process by using captive audience meetings, the NLRB will set the corrupted election results aside and require the employer to bargain with the worker representative,” Democrats write in the Better Deal white paper.
I have a right to speak my mind, practice my religion, freely assemble, and carry a firearm.
These rights come from God, not government.— Joe Walsh (@WalshFreedom) November 6, 2017
What part of the Bible did you get that from, Joe?
The part with all the guns in it? https://t.co/RO7Yupa9RM— God (@TheTweetOfGod) November 6, 2017
re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth
This is his THIRD try to get this tweet right.
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) November 7, 2017
re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Those rights are literally in the Bill of Rights, dumbass.
re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth
Just once I’d like to see Joe Walsh freely assemble an original thought.
re: #26 FormerDirtDart
CNN poll: Favorable views of the Democratic Party have dropped to their lowest mark in more than a quarter century
— CNN Politics
Dems in disarray, etc.
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Wow did the Air Force drop the ball on this… I wonder how many other psycopaths they’ve just let wander off back into society.
If Rights come from God, why did it take so long to come up with these rights? Why have in fact governments who use God been more tyrannical then those who rule by the laws of man?
The House Rs just blocked a vote to set up a Select Committee on Gun Violence that would study how to prevent future tragedies.
— Dina Titus (@repdinatitus) November 7, 2017
re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth
The independent candidate is actually a member of the American Solidarity Party, so she was a no go for me right at the start.
What the heck party is that? I probably don’t want to know, do I?
re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth
Fortunately that’s not true, since it would require a god to intervene and protect those rights. #NotGonnaHappen
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) November 7, 2017
re: #54 jimmyvluv4u
…the person who reported Mr. Kelley missing from the hospital advised them that he “suffered from mental disorders,” and that he “was attempting to carry out death threats” against “his military chain of command.” The man “was a danger to himself and others as he had already been caught sneaking firearms onto Holloman Air Force Base,”…
re: #38 Patricia Kayden
I agree. I don’t understand why Democrats aren’t able to rally their voters against the Bigot-in-Chief who is leading an incompetent party and has horrible policies which will only hurt the working class and benefit the wealthy. Plus, with the Russia interference and general sleaziness of the Trump administration, Democrats should be doing much better with the general public.
We have a few months to get our act together and Democratic leadership must do better so we can flip Congress.
They are unable to because they have no media mouthpiece. All major media outlets are either openly state-run media, or report faithfully whatever state-run media tells them to.
The American public does whatever their mass media narrative tells them to. American culture trains its public to do so. However, the three major arms of mass media in the US are all dominated by the far right, ensuring that no positive Democratic story comes out - only Republican news, positive or negative. FOX and far right cult media are now openly Pravda-esque in their fabrication of stories and narrative. CNN, the NYT, WaPo and similar major outlets report only on Republican stories until they are told by Breitbart to report a negative Dem story. And now Facebook and Twitter are the third arm, but are dominated by far right bots.
re: #58 Sir John Barron
What the heck party is that? I probably don’t want to know, do I?
Christian Democratic party…”sanctity of life” is their #1 platform.
solidarity-party.org
re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth
That’s what total corruption looks like. They’ve been bought by the radicals at the NRA.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) November 7, 2017
re: #58 Sir John Barron
What the heck party is that? I probably don’t want to know, do I?
Probably some party who thinks the GOP too liberal.
re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth
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I stopped following “The Tweet of God” when it Tweeted out “The Book of Bieber”
False and puny god.
re: #61 Renaissance_Man
Rallies, may I interject, don’t do anything in a representative democracy like ours outside of election day.
We’re not in a parliamentary system. There is no “no confidence” vote by the Congress.
I propose that what we are seeing has everything to do with demographics, especially the variable of age.
Put simply, old people vote more.
re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth
Christian Democratic party…”sanctity of life” is their #1 platform.
solidarity-party.org
All life, or just blastocysts, embryos, and fetuses, because we already have a party for those.
re: #66 The Vicious Babushka
I stopped following “The Tweet of God” when it Tweeted out “The Book of Bieber”
False and puny god.
Bieber is just beyond your understanding. The Tweet of God works in mysterious ways.
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re: #41 Skip Intro
Tom Perez of the DNC? Or Pelosi and Schumer. They should get together and work things out as to how they’re going to rally the voters for next November. Pelosi has already said that Democrats shouldn’t be focused on impeaching Trump which I find bewildering. Democrats in Congress just don’t seem to have any passion when it comes to resisting Trump.
If the positions were flipped and Russia had colluded to get a President Hillary Clinton in the White House, Republicans would be working overtime to get her out — even if they were in the minority in Congress (like they were from January 2009 through January 2011).
re: #68 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
All life, or just blastocysts, embryos, and fetuses, because we already have a party for those.
“from conception to natural death”
Democracy has a very, very long list of critics who have picked apart all the failings of government systems that pretend to be any variant of a democracy.
In the end, there is nothing to stop a group of people for voting for harmful, even self-harmful, governments.
re: #61 Renaissance_Man
They are unable to because they have no media mouthpiece. All major media outlets are either openly state-run media, or report faithfully whatever state-run media tells them to.
The American public does whatever their mass media narrative tells them to. American culture trains its public to do so. However, the three major arms of mass media in the US are all dominated by the far right, ensuring that no positive Democratic story comes out - only Republican news, positive or negative. FOX and far right cult media are now openly Pravda-esque in their fabrication of stories and narrative. CNN, the NYT, WaPo and similar major outlets report only on Republican stories until they are told by Breitbart to report a negative Dem story. And now Facebook and Twitter are the third arm, but are dominated by far right bots.
further, it would require agreeing on 1) who those standard bearers are and 2) what their message is, or worse, trusting them to craft themes and messages as circumstances dictate
dems cant even agree on who is a dem and what a dem should stand for - granted a problem all over, i think worse here
bernie, not a dem ran as a dem
hillary, experienced and accomplished lifelong dem, not a good enough dem
‘corporatist’ dems are ng
‘establishment’ dems are ng
etc
etc
re: #39 HappyWarrior
I don’t call it self defeating at all, I call it holding the party accountable. Of course when it comes to the 2 parties the DNC is far and away the best option but that is because the GOP is absolute garbage. So yay, the DNC is better than garbage but that’s not something to brag about. The DNC is the only chance we have to getting this country back on track, so yeah there is going to be a lot of scrutiny thrown their way. We need them to do better plain and simple. No more excuses.
re: #71 Backwoods_Sleuth
“from conception to natural death”
Thanks. There was no way I was going to click that link at work.
At least they’re consistent.
Sigh.
We always give the same answer and they don’t listen.
— Mel Ankoly (@Mel_Ankoly) October 26, 2017
re: #39 HappyWarrior
I think a lot of Democrats’ problems is we do a lot of self-defeating. Instead of standing up for HRC, a lot of us were like “Yeah she sucks but what are we going to do about” rather than being proud to have her as our nominee. I saw that with Kerry in 2004 too.
Hell, we saw it with President Obama after his first 12 months in office.
re: #76 JordanRules
Sigh.
Universal healthcare; tax the rich; increase the minimum wage; fund clean energy; sensible gun laws; stop voter suppression. How’s that?
which, for the most part, distills down to: “liberty and justice for all”
#VOTE pic.twitter.com/OqkopiGsw0
— Mo Willems’ Pigeon (@The_Pigeon) November 7, 2017
(Actually, I haven’t voted yet. When my wife gets home we’ll go and vote together.)
re: #74 RiverBoy
I don’t call it self defeating at all, I call it holding the party accountable. Of course when it comes to the 2 parties the DNC is far and away the best option but that is because the GOP is absolute garbage. So yay, the DNC is better than garbage but that’s not something to brag about. The DNC is the only chance we have to getting this country back on track, so yeah there is going to be a lot of scrutiny thrown their way. We need them to do better plain and simple. No more excuses.
I’m just saying. There seems to be a lot of self-defeatism that goes in after a difficult loss.
re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth
Where the hell does the Bible say that we have a right to carry firearms. Heavens help me!! These people are so brainwashed and ridiculous.
re: #29 RiverBoy
Democrats are in favor of appointing Supreme Court Justices who would overturn Citizens United. Until then, it’s impossible to get big money out of politics even if you attempt to disarm unilaterally.
Also, Democrats have a fantastic array of things people should be excited about like..
1. Increasing the minimum wage.
2. Investing in renewable energy and reducing our carbon footprint
3. Funding education and science research
4. Appointing effective and knowledgeable leaders to head up our government agencies
5. Building upon Obamacare to increase access to health care
6. Passing regulations to control the shadow banking industry (thanks Hillary)
7. Raise taxes on the wealthy to reduce the deficit
These positions aren’t hard to find, you just have to look at them because the media hates to cover them. There was a smart, hard working politician who had a massive list of policy positions and related papers up on her website when she ran for office. I can’t remember her name, but I think she was involved in some sort of email scandal.
The Hill and CNN reports about the DNC and Democrats being in a bad place seems to fit in nicely with Brazile’s book. So, I am thinking this is just more balance fairy crap and a good time to do it because of the book. What are they balancing? The fact the Republican’s are struggling with Trump and America overall…so let’s tell everyone the Dems struggle too. So, your only hope is to keep watching and reading!
re: #81 Patricia Kayden
Jesus once said something about swords, therefore you have a right to military grade assault weapons.
Me election day in 2016 v. me on election day 2017 pic.twitter.com/40HWPym9Zw
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) November 7, 2017
re: #82 Weaselone
They also do try to bypass the media that won’t cover them. DNC does a Facebook live streaming event every week. They tweet all the time. They release policy papers and rebuttals to GOP stuff every time it’s appropriate.
Y’all are the ones y’all have been waiting on. Rally yourself and your family and friends. I’m rallied and active locally.
re: #81 Patricia Kayden
Where the hell does the Bible say that we have a right to carry firearms. Heavens help me!! These people are so brainwashed and ridiculous.
It follows the conservative thinking The Constitution was given to us by God. Therefore, everything in the document is blessed by God. So God is all in on guns don’t you know.
re: #81 Patricia Kayden
Where the hell does the Bible say that we have a right to carry firearms. Heavens help me!! These people are so brainwashed and ridiculous.
They’re not getting it from the bible, they’re getting it from enlightenment philosophy that they’ve never read more than excerpts of the greatest hits…
We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal and that they are endowed by their creator certain unalienable rights, among them life,
liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Most of them have never taken the time to actual read in depth anything by the likes of Smith, Paine, Hobbs, Locke, or even Jefferson.
Resistance works. #handsoffmyBC https://t.co/uLvQoDvJeq
— Asha Dahya (@Ashadahya) November 7, 2017
re: #83 ObserverArt
What other conclusion can you come to when you look at the current state of politics in this country? The Dems are struggling. The GOP controls a majority in all levels of Gov’t. If that isn’t struggling what is?
re: #82 Weaselone
It wasn’t clear in my post but I’m totally agreeing with you and adding on.
The ‘yall’ I’m referring to is people waiting for their Democratic daddy.
Just wanted to clarify. Cheers!
re: #89 JordanRules
Good to hear!! Wasn’t expecting that since Catholics are anti-contraception per their dogma. They must have been hearing from loads of unhappy folk to make such a dramatic turnabout.
re: #85 Kragar
I tend to think more along the above, although fortunately in my local election the chance of any Republicans being elected is non existent. Charter school hacks, yes. Republican’s, no.
re: #90 RiverBoy
That this country has deep race and gender problems. That gerrymandering and suppression work. That Fox propaganda works.
re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth
BREAKING: Houston TV station: Texas church shooter was in mental health center in New Mexico and briefly escaped in 2012.
No amount of laws will prevent a crayzee person from obtaining firearms!!!
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re: #90 RiverBoy
What other conclusion can you come to when you look at the current state of politics in this country? The Dems are struggling. The GOP controls a majority in all levels of Gov’t. If that isn’t struggling what is?
I know it is struggling. That wasn’t my point. It is a great time to do some kicking of Democrats because the media has a hot story with the Brazile book. So it gives them cover to do the story. The media is out to keep the story hot so they build on it.
re: #96 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
But that’s not true. Unless the “crazy person” was using a fake ID, if he/she was institutionalized, it would show up in a background check.
I know you’re being sarcastic but I’m responding to the underlying argument.
something to go along with the “democrats are in disarray” discussion:
PX: Who wants thankless job of leading Hamilton County Democrats? https://t.co/cc19LC2xiJ pic.twitter.com/UMazbAhTeS
— Enquirer (@Enquirer) November 7, 2017
re: #98 Patricia Kayden
But that’s not true. Unless the “crazy person” was using a fake ID, if he/she was institutionalized, it would show up in a background check.
I know you’re being sarcastic but I’m responding to the underlying argument.
laws only work as well as they are enforced.
re: #81 Patricia Kayden
Where the hell does the Bible say that we have a right to carry firearms. Heavens help me!! These people are so brainwashed and ridiculous.
I do believe that we have certain natural rights, in that we are born with them. They are inalienable, but not unlimited. But it is up to people, their society and its political institutions to safeguard and enforce these rights and establish the limits that must be placed on them.
re: #82 Weaselone
These positions aren’t hard to find, you just have to look at them because the media hates to cover them. There was a smart, hard working politician who had a massive list of policy positions and related papers up on her website when she ran for office. I can’t remember her name, but I think she was involved in some sort of email scandal.
And when she was addressing a group of people on better job opportunities for the handicapped, the press was covering an empty podium for an hour awaiting the appearance of her opponent to make a statement on the history of his charitable donations…
We’re saddened by the loss of astronaut Dick Gordon, command module pilot on Apollo 12, the 2nd lunar landing: https://t.co/sAwLQKV3MY pic.twitter.com/ef1YjyIczd
— NASA (@NASA) November 7, 2017
re: #101 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Agreed. I was specifically asking where in the Bible anyone would read a right to weapons up to and including guns. It’s scary how Rightwingers use the Bible and religiosity to cloak their warmongering mindset.
re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Eventually none of these great heroes are going to be left.
Saudi prince arrested in corruption sweep spoke to @brianross in 2004—aboard a boat once owned by Donald Trump. https://t.co/jyxWms350C pic.twitter.com/0zWvLhnz1O
— ABC News (@ABC) November 7, 2017
re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth
What a good looking guy.
re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth
something to go along with the “democrats are in disarray” discussion:
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Columbus local government is extremely Democratic. School board, judges, council, mayor.
I heard a guy on NBC Channel 4’s political show say “The Republican Party in this city is in a bad state.” So, there is one area where Democrats rule, Columbus. At one time this city was dominated by Republicans. So it can be done. Mayor Mike Coleman did a lot of it by being sensible and liked. He dominated the voting for his many terms. He helped build the local Dem party back up.
Was going to mention, there were new toys at my polling site when I voted. They had these little tablet like computers on small stands with card swipers on them. They asked for my driver’s license and then swiped it. All my voting info popped up, I signed my name on the table and they gave me a small print out I had to give the voting assistants who used the info to load the proper ballot in the computerized voting machine, etc.
Meet Tink, the dog who has to eat from a high chair.
Tink is a Labrador Retriever. She’s been sitting in a high chair to eat since she was nine weeks old. But it’s because of a condition she has called Megaesophagus. That means when she eats, the food doesn’t go down to her stomach. It just stays in her esophagus and she eventually regurgitates it. So the high chair helps her digest.
More Democrats than ever including women running for state delegate here. But Dems are in disarray. Just ask Cilliza!
re: #6 Kragar
US needs international oversight in relation to their election process.
re: #76 JordanRules
Sigh.
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YOU DIDN’T SAY ‘SINGLE PAYER’!!! NEOLIBERAL SELLOUT!!!!
re: #11 Kragar
GOPer on tax cuts: Donors are saying “get it done or don’t ever call me again” https://t.co/I1BWz38cpG pic.twitter.com/oyc1GisPpd
— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) November 7, 2017
They have their billionaire President, their bought and owned congress and most administration positions filled with billionaires out to enrich themselves - and they still can’t design or pass any legislation. Shows how much these “job creators” depend on the middle and lower pay grades to actually “get stuff done”
re: #82 Weaselone
Democrats are in favor of appointing Supreme Court Justices who would overturn Citizens United. Until then, it’s impossible to get big money out of politics even if you attempt to disarm unilaterally.
Also, Democrats have a fantastic array of things people should be excited about like..
1. Increasing the minimum wage.
2. Investing in renewable energy and reducing our carbon footprint
3. Funding education and science research
4. Appointing effective and knowledgeable leaders to head up our government agencies
5. Building upon Obamacare to increase access to health care
6. Passing regulations to control the shadow banking industry (thanks Hillary)
7. Raise taxes on the wealthy to reduce the deficitThese positions aren’t hard to find, you just have to look at them because the media hates to cover them. There was a smart, hard working politician who had a massive list of policy positions and related papers up on her website when she ran for office. I can’t remember her name, but I think she was involved in some sort of email scandal.
…and therefore not only didnt we get 1-7 above, we got……
re: #110 HappyWarrior
That’s a great national trend too!
re: #94 JordanRules
All those things were true in 2008 too, were they not? I understand the DNC has many things going against it but they also have the majority of this country on its side as long as they give the people something to get behind. Obama won on a hope and change platform. He got the people behind him because he gave them reason to believe that he would change the direction of this country. That didn’t happen, for many reasons, so now you have a huge base of people who feel hopeless that their leaders will actually work in their interest. The DNC could gain a huge amount of people to their base by simply doing one thing, make it their platform that they will no longer accept money from large donors. Get rid of all the SuperPacs and start listening to people of this country. Until then they will continue to appear to do the bidding of their donors. Like I said before that will work for the GOP but the DNC base will not put up with even the hint of corruption of their representatives.
In November 1841, Madison Washington led a successful slave rebellion aboard the Creole: https://t.co/RLV3B3HFid #APeoplesJourney pic.twitter.com/2n28FQchKz
Quite the nugget from Politico Playbook: “Expect SEVERAL HOUSE GOP retirements as soon as this week.” pic.twitter.com/iYqNfjNKw0
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) November 7, 2017
In the battle to save America, long time Republicans are saying “fuck it” and walking away https://t.co/FkfClATYq1
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) November 7, 2017
re: #82 Weaselone
Democrats are in favor of appointing Supreme Court Justices who would overturn Citizens United. Until then, it’s impossible to get big money out of politics even if you attempt to disarm unilaterally.
I don’t think we even have to wait to get more reform-sympathetic Justices on the SC: IIRC, even in the Citizens United decision ( ?? CJ Roberts ?) indicated that the decision was based on the law as then applied: but that Congress could always change the law: as long as it conformed with the SCOTUS guidelines.
But of course, that would mean relying on Congress to enact serious campaign-financing reform: I won’t be holding my breath….
re: #118 Kragar
Congress making itself unnecessary. Votes to grant legislative authority to the executive branch.
Trump: What dis?
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re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth
oh lookie…a Russian troll farm bot just attempted to follow me. It got reported and met my block button instead.
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How do you report those? What is the type of report you filed? I was going to report something on twitter and couldn’t find anything appropriate in their sad list of radio button options.
re: #104 Patricia Kayden
Agreed. I was specifically asking where in the Bible anyone would read a right to weapons up to and including guns. It’s scary how Rightwingers use the Bible and religiosity to cloak their warmongering mindset.
its really no different than any other wild assertion you’ve heard.
they say it - that makes it so.
proof, substantiation, analysis argument, are not necessary.
cannot be debunked. they say it. that makes it so.
re: #116 RiverBoy
That election did make their lives better and yet that wasn’t enough which goes right back to my point. I’ve read the articles about people really debating between keeping life saving healthcare or voting against Dems. That’s not because we aren’t helping them. We are.
We still have a platform that will make those people’s lives better along with all the people they don’t like.
Gerrymandering & voter suppression has been an issue and is continuing to bear more fruit.
Fox and other media propaganda is getting worse.
What Weaselone said about money in politics.
Fairfax County says 209,223 votes cast by 2pm. That’s 30.6% of registered voters. Turnout was 46.8% at end of day in 2013. 5 hours left.
— Garrett Haake (@GarrettHaake) November 7, 2017
With post-work surge coming, that could suggest a decent off-year turn-out. But right now it is rainy and cold in DC.
— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) November 7, 2017
2 p.m. Estimated Voter Turnout Update is 30.6 percent. This doesn’t include absentee ballots. Don’t let the rain stop you from voting!
— Fairfax County Votes (@fairfaxvotes) November 7, 2017
There’s also ~20k more absentee ballots cast in the county this cycle than in 2013.
— Garrett Haake (@GarrettHaake) November 7, 2017
re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth
There’s also ~20k more absentee ballots cast in the county this cycle than in 2013.
Mine’s in!
re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth
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It was wet at my precinct but volunteers from both parties told me turnout was high. It being high in FC bodes well for Ralph, Justin, & Mark and the HoD.
re: #116 RiverBoy
The DNC could gain a huge amount of people to their base by simply doing one thing, make it their platform that they will no longer accept money from large donors.
How to commit electoral suicide, right there.
Use donor money to win back Congress, then re-write laws on campaign finance, Citizens United in particular.
Horse first, then cart. To try doing otherwise would effectively strangle the Democratic party.
Whether the Democrats win or lose in Virginia, the media is going to spin the results as a Democratic loss. Book it.
“People believe what they want to believe.” You’re writing from the premise that we all have to get better at sifting evidence, which is true, yet when you talk about people believing what they want to believe it gets us into that difficult area where so much of how people decide isn’t sifting through evidence, it’s emotional.
re: #131 Dr. Matt
Agreed. Always.
It becomes internalized.
re: #110 HappyWarrior
More Democrats than ever including women running for state delegate here. But Dems are in disarray. Just ask Cilliza!
51 women are running for the Virginia House of Delegates.
43 are Democrats.
18 were trained by Emerge.
re: #134 BeachDem
51 women are running for the Virginia House of Delegates.
43 are Democrats.
18 were trained by Emerge.
Both our candidates in the primary for HoD were women. I’ve met both. Great ladies.
re: #130 makeitstop
How to commit electoral suicide, right there.
Use donor money to win back Congress, then re-write laws on campaign finance, Citizens United in particular.
Horse first, then cart. To try doing otherwise would effectively strangle the Democratic party.
I like to point out that candidates and institutions have evolved to fit into the environment they’re in. That environment massively favors candidates with access to lots of money.
Need to change the environment first….and holy crap, that’s hard….
First they came for the conservatives, Then the Republicans, Then the Christians, Now. White people. This is not a battle of ideas it’s war.
— Chuck Woolery (@chuckwoolery) November 6, 2017
Pretty sure this tweet is a former game show host declaring a race war.
(But that would be completely insane.) https://t.co/1YR05BBfY0— Franklin Leonard (@franklinleonard) November 7, 2017
There’s nothing to vote for in my city, county, or state today. This is the first November I haven’t voted in….hell, I can’t even remember the last time I didn’t vote in a November.
re: #116 RiverBoy
1. The number of people that Democrats added to their base by declaring they wouldn’t accept large donations is probably inconsequential. They’ll still be targeted as being dominated by big donors and special interests regardless of the extent of truth of those allegations; they just won’t have the money to push back against them.
2. Democrats can’t eliminate the SuperPacs on their own side. They don’t have that power. If a wealthy supporter wants to create a SuperPac, they create a SuperPac. That’s all there is to it. It’s like saying that Democrats should prevent their supporters from wearing white after labor day or eating meat on Sundays.
re: #137 JordanRules
First they came for the conservatives, Then the Republicans, Then the Christians, Now. White people. This is not a battle of ideas it’s war.
— Chuck Woolery
Chuck is finally coming out as a fucking Nazi….and he’s proud of it.
re: #140 Dr. Matt
Super proud. What a shitty person.
re: #137 JordanRules
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What a nutzi. By the way Chuck, if you read the original poem, it was about right wingers such as yourself going after lefties. Fuck you very much for likening their very real political persecution to the fact you don’t like to share a country with non-white Christian conservative Republicans. You can go to Russia with Trump and stay there.
re: #137 JordanRules
First they came for the conservatives, Then the Republicans, Then the Christians, Now. White people. This is not a battle of ideas it’s war.
— Chuck Woolery
Who is “they”? Crazy people with guns?
re: #135 HappyWarrior
Both our candidates in the primary for HoD were women. I’ve met both. Great ladies.
2017-2018 Emerge Candidates
(337 women as of November 2017, 235 women in 2017 and 103 women in 2018)
There are actually Democrats out here doing things besides throwing our hands in the air and lamenting our fate.
re: #139 Weaselone
… It’s like saying that Democrats should prevent their supporters from wearing white after labor day…
Advise, not prevent. Shame, perhaps.
re: #143 Sir John Barron
Who is “they”? Crazy people with guns?
White Christian Republican Conservatives are no longer in absolute control of government, society, and industry = WHITE GENOCIDE
re: #144 BeachDem
2017-2018 Emerge Candidates
(337 women as of November 2017, 235 women in 2017 and 103 women in 2018)There are actually Democrats out here doing things besides throwing our hands in the air and lamenting our fate.
Certainly. Did you see my post earlier about how my former Gubernatorial candidate has been working with a lot of these ladies and guys seeking the HoD. Tom Perriello is what Sanders should have done after Clinton beat him.
Buy a vowel, Chuck!
Y_ _ R ‘E
_ N S _ N _ !— josephebacon 🌹 (@josephebacon) November 7, 2017
re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
White Christian Republican Conservatives are no longer in absolute control of government, society, and industry = WHITE GENOCIDE
But, they kind of are. Does Chuck not know his party controls the WH, the Senate, the House? Most churches and major denominations? Guess that’s not enough.
Sources? We don’t need no stinkin’ sources!!
Lubbock’s Dr. Demento, Donald May, shares some factual, true, confirmed info about the Texas church shooter:
Sandy Rios wonders if officials are lying about the Texas shooter’s (nonexistent) ties to Antifahttps://t.co/IzKwR4yE21
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) November 7, 2017
re: #149 Sir John Barron
But, they kind of are. Does Chuck not know his party controls the WH, the Senate, the House? Most churches and major denominations? Guess that’s not enough.
Seriously. Whtie Conservative Republicans are some of the biggest goddamn snowflakes I’ve ever seen.
re: #142 HappyWarrior
What a nutzi. By the way Chuck, if you read the original poem, it was about right wingers such as yourself going after lefties. Fuck you very much for likening their very real political persecution to the fact you don’t like to share a country with non-white Christian conservative Republicans. You can go to Russia with Trump and stay there.
Hope his Russian is better than his English…and his punctuation…and his capitalization…
re: #149 Sir John Barron
Yeah but NFL bucks are kneeling sooooo…
When you say “they”, what you mean is {{{they}}}
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) November 7, 2017
re: #150 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
Sources? We don’t need no stinkin’ sources!!
Lubbock’s Dr. Demento, Donald May, shares some factual, true, confirmed info about the Texas church shooter:[Embedded content]
People like him really should STFU.
re: #152 BeachDem
Hope his Russian is better than his English…and his punctuation…and his capitalization…
Everything’s coming up Woolery.
re: #150 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
Sources? We don’t need no stinkin’ sources!!
Lubbock’s Dr. Demento, Donald May, shares some factual, true, confirmed info about the Texas church shooter:[Embedded content]
Yeah, it’s terrible we’ve become so distrustful with all the wingnuts crying “fake news” about everything they disagree with.
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re: #44 Eclectic Cyborg
This is a question we definitely need answered.
Political systems in other countries have designated party leaders. The U.S. does not and I really think that goes part of the way in explaining this mess we’re in right now.
Let’s play a game…
We had a leader, Clinton, who was the #1 respected woman in the world at one point. She had a message…who heard it? Who heard the Dem message? How do we fix that?
The GOP (and in 2016 the foreign interests) did nothing but bash her from her time as first lady of Arkansas all the way through 2016 (and still!) Everything Clinton was turned into a GATE including going to the fucking bathroom during a debate. How do we fix that?
Trump’s empty lectern got more coverage than anything in the Dem platform during the election cycle. How do we fix that?
Today’s headlines are about how the Dem’s are at the lowest point…and what are we here discussing?
As soon as any “leader” is selected, they will receive the Clinton treatment. How do we fix that?
How do we create that leader? How do we prevent them from becoming the next Clinton? This is a lather-rinse-repeat from the right. Hannity will call them THE MOST LIBERAL EVAH! person (which he has literally done in referring to any democrat - always). How do we fix that?
If they can’t win on platform (which they can’t), they suppress votes, tell people to vote at incorrect places on incorrect days. How do we fix that?
Social media seems to be encouraging all this shit. How do we fix that?
Ok, this wasn’t a game. It’s republican politics and we are on the receiving end of it. How do we fix that?
Well the question I have is what do liberals/progressives really want from their candidates?
re: #153 JordanRules
Yeah but NFL bucks are kneeling sooooo…
We had no idea the players killing each other on the gladiator field for our amusement were black!
BREAKING: Lithuanian Parliament passes Magnitsky Act in second reading 78-1 (5 abstentions). One more reading to go before it becomes law!
— Bill Browder (@Billbrowder) November 7, 2017
re: #155 HappyWarrior
People like him really should STFU.
He is one of Lubbock’s leading citizens and most vocal activists.
People who have never been to Lubbock might be tempted to think that I am weirdly fixated on the negative aspects of the place.
Those who have been there would probably think I am too easy on the place.
re: #110 HappyWarrior
More Democrats than ever including women running for state delegate here. But Dems are in disarray. Just ask Cilliza!
Ohio has a newish Democratic Chairman for the state. He seems to be working hard to get more local races contested throughout the state. I think Dems will be doing much better in 2018. They may not win ‘em all, but at least they are attempting to give good runs.
I think I have read where the DNC under Perez is doing much better getting bucks out to local and state races too. I don’t have it handy, but I got a message in an email about the thousands of races they will contending.
Everyone knows the party needs help, I hope everyone realizes they are trying and it would help if the voters backed the efforts early.
re: #139 Weaselone
1. So you’re saying they have to take money because the other side might lie about them? If you can’t successfully combat outright lies then that person needs to find another career path because they are not made to cut it in politics.
2. There is a huge difference between a billionaire working on their own accord to make a SuperPac and what is going on right now. Even though there is supposed to be no coordination between Pacs and the candidate that is hardily what we see today. The day I see a billionaire create a SuperPac to elect a politician that doesn’t want that help then maybe you might have a point.
re: #163 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
He is one of Lubbock’s leading citizens and most vocal activists.
People who have never been to Lubbock might be tempted to think that I am weirdly fixated on the negative aspects of the place.
Those who have been there would probably think I am too easy on the place.
Can’t say I’ve ever been to Lubbock. It really is pathetic he uses his influence to peddle Rios inspired bullshit.
re: #160 HappyWarrior
Well the question I have is what do liberals/progressives really want from their candidates?
Ponies. A lot of them do, at least.
re: #165 RiverBoy
1. Countering a lie takes a lot of money, because to counter a lie, you essentially have to build a reputation and image that causes people to instantly discard the lie when it is heard. That takes either a crap load of time or a lot of exposure and money. Spreading a lie is cheap. A couple of TV spots and everyone’s crazy uncle is reposting it on the book of faces.
2. I want to see the evidence. I’ve seen a fair bit of evidence that this is the case on the Republican side, not so much on the Democrats.
Picked up Pete Souza’s book today at the local B&N (The Woodlands, TX.). Got lots of stares from the geriatric, Fox News anger mob. Fuck em, great book.
As I have shared before, I live in the south Texas coastal bend. I just voted. Here’s what I overheard while I was there:
I was the only person voting. When I walked into the polling place (a high school), one of the poll workers was on the phone. He said, “We had a lull but someone just walked in so I’m going to go to a different area so she can’t hear.” The phone call ended shortly after and the man returned to the table with the other 2 poll workers. They started talking, apparently oblivious to me. The two women asked, “What did you tell her?” The man said, “I told her that we simply asked the gentleman for a valid ID, and when he presented one we told him that MAY not be valid. I told her that he started ranting about us interfering with his right to vote.” One of the women asked, “Did you tell her what he said about Russia?” The man said, “I told her that we in no way kept him from voting and at best held him up about 30 seconds. He’s already gone to the courthouse to complain, that’s why we got a call from Austin.”
They continued discussing the encounter and the phone call, and one of the women said, “I’m just hoping he doesn’t come back with a gun.”
I voted and got the hell outta there.
re: #171 Ace Rothstein
Picked up Pete Souza’s book today at the local B&N (The Woodlands, TX.). Got lots of stares from the geriatric, Fox News anger mob. Fuck em, great book.
Over a photo book? JFC. Our local GOPers are actually fairly friendly though. Made it pretty clear to the older gentleman passing out Republican sample ballots I was voting straight Dem but he was nice about it and seemed happy that turnout was high even though he has to know turnout isn’t good for the GOP. I encountered a volunteer for the GOP when I was going door to door on Saturday too. She was friendly enough. Felt kind of bad because she looked quite young but we were good natured to each other and I wished her good luck.
re: #172 Flying Squirrel Girl
Hilarious. The same thing happened to me last year when I voted in the general election. My Texas dl MAY have not been valid, and I had to wait for this jackass to talk to someone in Austin.
re: #173 HappyWarrior
I probably should have told them “Hey, he shot for President Reagan, too.”
re: #116 RiverBoy
All those things were true in 2008 too, were they not? I understand the DNC has many things going against it but they also have the majority of this country on its side as long as they give the people something to get behind. Obama won on a hope and change platform. He got the people behind him because he gave them reason to believe that he would change the direction of this country. That didn’t happen, for many reasons, so now you have a huge base of people who feel hopeless that their leaders will actually work in their interest. The DNC could gain a huge amount of people to their base by simply doing one thing, make it their platform that they will no longer accept money from large donors. Get rid of all the SuperPacs and start listening to people of this country. Until then they will continue to appear to do the bidding of their donors. Like I said before that will work for the GOP but the DNC base will not put up with even the hint of corruption of their representatives.
You could not be more wrong here, and I say this as someone who thinks that Citizens United will end up being the single worst decision in the history of the US Supreme Court, and the one that will bring about the downfall of the Republic.
Yes, unfettered big money in politics is appalling, and directly responsible for huge Republican majorities, along with gerrymandering and voter suppression. But the fact of the matter is that to win elections in 21st century America, you must have access to media coverage. Positive media coverage is ideal, but not strictly necessary. Without a mouthpiece to make yourself known, and any message you may have heard, you cannot win an election. This is true at all levels. At the lowest levels you can make yourself known through personal interaction, but not at any level higher than that.
How, then, are Democrats to get media access and coverage? Republicans get it for free, because they control all outlets. Democrats need money - money to buy access, money to construct their own outlets and mouthpieces. Refusing to accept large money donations won’t help, and will only hurt them. You think their voters will get upset at the hint of corruption? The voters that get upset at that get upset because they follow the media narrative telling them to. The voters that genuinely care about that are limited - they are largely white, privileged, and comfortable, and demand a certain ideological purity because their lives are comfortable enough not to want anything else. The voters that say they care about that are white middle class voters who watch CNN, some FOX, and who are barraged constantly with a narrative that tells them how rudderless and corrupt Democrats are.
So how did Obama win? He presented the mass media with something they couldn’t resist, much like Trump did. Except his was a more positive message - an educated black man, the first major party nominee for President. Hillary could have been presented similarly, but the US mass media has hated her for 30 years, and they weren’t about to change that narrative now. And he did change the direction of this country, despite your assertion otherwise - again, perhaps not as much as he could have, but every black child now looks at the White House differently. Flawed as it is, his signature achievement has not been undone, even with all the powers that be in the country arrayed against it, including an evil dictator with no other goal in his mind than destroying his legacy.
Your narrative is strikingly similar to all the puff pieces we’ve seen since the election praising the filthy monsters that voted Trump - ‘they’re hopeless, they feel disenfranchised, they feel like nobody is listening to them’. ‘If only the Democrats would really listen to them, they’d vote for them’. Utter, vomitous rubbish. The Democratic base is not, and will not be, these precious snowflakes who are so easily convinced to divest themselves of empathy and humanity. The Democratic base must be the very people who the mass media pays no attention to - educated people, young people, and minorities. This is a majority of the country. The entirety of the powerful US mass media chooses to marginalise and ignore them in favour of a dwindling group of mediocre white people, driving their narrative to the top of the fold again and again and again. So yes, in some ways you are correct - the Democratic base probably does feel somewhat hopeless. But they feel this way not because of the actions of Democrats. They feel this way because their stories are never told in the media, because their issues are ignored. They feel this way because their media tells them every day how terrible the people they want to elect are, and glorifies a group of stupid white people for no good reason at all. Insisting that Democrats not accept big money donations does nothing to correct that.
re: #175 Ace Rothstein
I probably should have told them “Hey, he shot for President Reagan, too.”
Not like they care.
re: #173 HappyWarrior
Over a photo book? JFC. Our local GOPers are actually fairly friendly though. Made it pretty clear to the older gentleman passing out Republican sample ballots I was voting straight Dem but he was nice about it and seemed happy that turnout was high even though he has to know turnout isn’t good for the GOP. I encountered a volunteer for the GOP when I was going door to door on Saturday too. She was friendly enough. Felt kind of bad because she looked quite young but we were good natured to each other and I wished her good luck.
Forgot there was a NJ election, and NYC. Amazing DeBlasio is cruising to re-election given all the upchuck over the police early in his term. Guess wingnuts are giving up on NYC.
a little happy something for BeachDem:
We built this mural in La @PlacitaDeGuisin before the storm.
It survived.
We unveiled it today.
That’s Usnavi on top.
🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷 pic.twitter.com/wnEqNu4Zha— Lin-Manuel Miranda (@Lin_Manuel) November 7, 2017
re: #137 JordanRules
maybe if the white people, the Christians, The Conservatives and the Republicans hadn’t been waging a culture war against The Muslims, the women, the black people, the brown people, the yellow people, the red people and the liberals they wouldn’t feel like they were in a war.
At some point, he should probably just give up.
Guy hires a hitman to kill his wife.
Surprise! It’s an undercover cop.
So Guy seeks a hitman to kill the cop.
Surprise! He’s a cop, too. pic.twitter.com/Aptc4WlKOe— Brad Heath (@bradheath) November 7, 2017
Off-topic, but this kind of marketing dumbitude really irritates me:
Hey, @dccomics, @justiceleague, and #Pez, aren’t you missing a character here? You know, $400 million at the box office, sensational reviews, ringing any bells yet?
There’ve been improvements in recent years with marketers realizing, yes, women watch action movies and comic book movies, and men don’t have their dicks fall off if they see a Wonder Woman movie, but there are still a lot of moron holdouts running marketing offices.
Ex-MLB pitcher Roy Halladay died in a plane crash today.
cbssports.com
re: #182 scottslemmons
Off-topic, but this kind of marketing dumbitude really irritates me:
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There’ve been improvements in recent years with marketers realizing, yes, women watch action movies and comic book movies, and men don’t have their dicks fall off if they see a Wonder Woman movie, but there are still a lot of moron holdouts running marketing offices.
While I totally agree with your point, to me the most striking thing is that Pez still exists.
On my 30th birthday in 2001, I went to Boston to go to Fenway Park to see the Red Sox play two games. The first night was against Toronto, and this pitcher who I had never heard of just mowed the Red Sox down. From that night on, I followed all his starts. His name was Roy Halladay.
re: #180 piratedan
maybe if the white people, the Christians, The Conservatives and the Republicans hadn’t been waging a culture war against The Muslims, the women, the black people, the brown people, the yellow people, the red people and the liberals they wouldn’t feel like they were in a war.
Poor Chuck Woolery, being asked to share. Must feel like Auschwitz with a side of Slavery. Poor baby.
re: #183 Ace Rothstein
Ex-MLB pitcher Roy Halladay died in a plane crash today.
cbssports.com
Yeah, just saw that. Terrible news. Only 40.
re: #174 Ace Rothstein
One of the poll workers said something to the effect of “He had a drivers license, almost everyone does. But he presented the one he knew we were going to challenge.” So I take it he was trying to prove something by presenting an obscure ID.
re: #183 Ace Rothstein
Ex-MLB pitcher Roy Halladay died in a plane crash today.
cbssports.com
Oh damn. RIP Doc.
Twitter is officially doubling the character limit to 280 https://t.co/T0NETHpzEL
— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) November 7, 2017
tl;dr https://t.co/XYtA08Ms7N
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) November 7, 2017
re: #181 Blind Frog Belly White
At some point, he should probably just give up.
Very hard to find a reliable hit man these days.
re: #191 Sir John Barron
Very hard to find a reliable hit man these days.
Yeah. But next time you need a cop, just say you’re looking for a hit man.
Shep is tired of the shit
Shep Smith erupts over Carter Page’s testimony: ‘The Russians are trying to hijack our democracy’ https://t.co/UKqfJCdpNi
— Raw Story (@RawStory) November 7, 2017
re: #193 Kragar
Shep is tired of the shit
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He really should leave FNC and write a tell all about the bullshit that goes on at that network.
re: #195 Ace Rothstein
Time to find a new job, Shep.
That much was evident when he called out Not Joe the Not Plumber for calling Obama anti-semitic.
re: #194 HappyWarrior
He really should leave FNC and write a tell all about the bullshit that goes on at that network.
You think since he’s the token “liberal” at Fox that his contract probably has a NDA in it?
re: #196 HappyWarrior
That much was evident when he called out Not Joe the Not Plumber for calling Obama anti-semitic.
Beck said Obama had a deep-seated hatred for white people. I guess Obama hated half of himself.
Shelby’s birthday cheeseburgers have been acquired and consumed.
Odysseus shared a bit of his with Squeak (not by choice) and rejected his pickle slice. Shelby vacuumed that up, along with half his bun.
re: #195 Ace Rothstein
Time to find a new job, Shep.
He gets a little something extra in his paycheck when he occasionally acts as the voice of reason.
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Remember this
I PHOTOSHOPPED SARUMAN INTO TRUMP’S ORB PICTURE AND IT’S NOT EVEN WEIRD pic.twitter.com/cVJFGP5NPG
— Shahak Shapira (@ShahakShapira) May 22, 2017
re: #197 Ace Rothstein
You think since he’s the token “liberal” at Fox that his contract probably has a NDA in it?
That sounds likely yeah.
re: #198 Ace Rothstein
Beck said Obama had deep-seated hatred for white people. I guess Obama hated half of himself.
And his mom and grandparents that he always speaks highly of. Haven’t heard much from Beck these days.
If you think it’s wise to lecture Texans on gun laws, I’m guessing you haven’t spent much time in Texas.
— Tomi Lahren (@TomiLahren) November 6, 2017
So why is it Ok for EVERY right winger on the planet to talk about Chicago?
re: #205 I Would Prefer Not To
Because Talia Lemongrass is an idiot who needs attention to cover for the fact that she isn’t bringing anything to the table.
re: #190 Kragar
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re: #205 I Would Prefer Not To
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So why is it Ok for EVERY right winger on the planet to talk about Chicago?
Because Chicago’s full of blah people for Tomi to lecture.
re: #207 scottslemmons
I think I’m the last person on the planet who’s still on the 140-character limit. I half-suspect they’ll never switch me over. “You tweet insults at Jack too much, we’re dropping you to 93 characters.”
Nope. Jack still has me at the 140 limit, too…
This was my thought the other day also
Fan theory that Jar Jar Binks is really a Jedi master hiding in plain sight as buffoon. Carter Page? https://t.co/cTcAlHVIFt pic.twitter.com/0jba8FRToU
— Greg Pinelo (@gregpinelo) November 7, 2017
I need an extension that just cuts all tweets off at 140
— Vann R. Newkirk II (@fivefifths) November 7, 2017
264,000 times. This bullshit was shared on Facebook 264,000 TIMES.
via @dliebelson & @PaulBlu https://t.co/bBpNF9X7C9 pic.twitter.com/MMOCFAWx2n— Christopher Mathias (@letsgomathias) November 7, 2017
JUST IN: Former MLB star pitcher Roy Halladay has died in a plane crash off the Florida coast, authorities say https://t.co/rKwzdp6JNU pic.twitter.com/rBjXRx80ai
— CNN (@CNN) November 7, 2017
Never thought I’d cheer for Jennifer Rubin, but… Trump’s latest impeachable actions https://t.co/fexsN3TI48
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 7, 2017
re: #215 Charles Johnson
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She’s been consistent slamming not just Trump but the entire GOP.
re: #210 gocart mozart
I really want the resolution to Jar Jar’s story to prove this to be true.
re: #216 weave
Oh look, surprise, the Texas shooting was Obama’s fault.
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Don’t politicize shootings, we’ll do that for you.
WE HAVE SEIZED AN ADDITIONAL 140 CHARACTERS FROM THE BOURGEOISIE AND WILL IMMEDIATELY PLACE THEM IN THE SERVICE OF THE PROLETARIAT. REPEAT: WE HAVE SEIZED AN ADDITIONAL 140 CHARACTERS FROM THE BOURGEOISIE AND WILL IMMEDIATELY PLACE THEM IN THE SERVICE OF THE PROLETARIAT.
— Pioneer Valley DSA🌹 (@PVDemSoc) November 7, 2017
Quit TweetDeck and relaunched and boom - I now have 280 characters to rant with.
re: #217 HappyWarrior
She’s been consistent slamming not just Trump but the entire GOP.
After she spent years doing what every other republican operative did.
I have a hard time accepting this bullshit. David Gergen had something up today, as well. They both built this shit.
re: #215 Charles Johnson
Yes, Rubin’s been good for months. Time will tell if this is a real come-to-the-light moment, but right now I’ll take any ally I can get. Almost. (Bill Kristol remains a step too far.)
re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth
a little happy something for BeachDem:
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Dayum, I love that man. He is the brightest light on Twitter, that’s for sure.
Thanks.
re: #221 Charles Johnson
Quit TweetDeck and relaunched and boom - I now have 280 characters to rant with.
Still at 140 here.
Meh…
re: #150 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
She’s wearing black…
re: #222 MsJ
After she spent years doing what every other republican operative did.
I have a hard time accepting this bullshit. David Gergen had something up today, as well. They both built this shit.
I hear you but at least she’s not acting like Trump is an anamoly and the GOP will be fine if they just rid themselves of him.
re: #190 Kragar
Oh goody! Now we can get twice the bloviating nonsense from Trump. He’ll be happy because his insults can be lengthier.
re: #225 TedStriker
Still at 140 here.
Meh…
Did you try signing off and back on? Not that I’ve had a chance to try it.
re: #229 Patricia Kayden
Oh goody! Now we can get twice the bloviating nonsense from Trump. He’ll be happy because his insults can be lengthier.
I suspect 280 characters will screw up his rhythm.
Bwahahaha! 280 characters is mine. Now I can REALLY let everyone know what I think about that bloated orange sack of virulent toxic waste we call the Narcissist in Chief, his corrupt sycophantic cronies, and his noxious white supremacist followers.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 7, 2017
re: #232 Charles Johnson
It’s not compulsory to write on both sides of the paper
re: #231 Belafon
Sad! Sad sad sad sad sad, believe me.
re: #90 RiverBoy
What other conclusion can you come to when you look at the current state of politics in this country? The Dems are struggling. The GOP controls a majority in all levels of Gov’t. If that isn’t struggling what is?
You really want to see struggling? You’ll see the bottom fall out if the Dems lose VA to a Trumper tonight.
re: #235 Skip Intro
Nah. We’re already destroyed so whatevs.
re: #176 Renaissance_Man
“You could not be more wrong here, and I say this as someone who thinks that Citizens United will end up being the single worst decision in the history of the US Supreme Court, and the one that will bring about the downfall of the Republic.”
You say I could not be more wrong, turn around and say Citizen United will bring about the downfall of the Republic, then go on a tell me why the Democrats need to continue the practice that you believe will ruin the country? Sorry that doesn’t make sense to me at all. You also made a lot assumptions about what type of people care about this issue that I take offense to as well. It is pretty arrogant to assert that mainly privileged white folk are falling for a media narrative. I am neither white nor privileged but what I can see are daily examples of money corrupting our politicians. You can’t complain about the NRA holding politicians hostage with their money then turn around and say it is necessary the Democrats take some money too because they need access to mainstream media. Positions on policies will never matter as long as money is able to influence the decisions. And since the GOP takes in much more money from special interest groups they will always have a built in advantage. Again it makes no sense to me for the DNC to give the GOP that advantage and at the same time appear to covet that money that gives them the advantage.
re: #215 Charles Johnson
Has Rubin gone full Charles Johnson? You never go full Charles Johnson!
The “I can’t believe good old Ed Gillespie went full racist racist asshole” trope on MSNBC is a good argument for banning former R WH aides
— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) November 7, 2017
re: #237 RiverBoy
You say I could not be more wrong, turn around and say Citizen United will bring about the downfall of the Republic, then go on a tell me why the Democrats need to continue the practice that you believe will ruin the country? Sorry that doesn’t make sense to me at all
Because the problem is the environment, not the candidates.
Change the environment FIRST—-or else you put up candidates designed to fail in the environment that’s been built.
re: #240 jaunte
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He always was a scumbag. Now he’s just a racist scumbag instead of an Enron scumbag. BTW, that’s why we shouldn’t rush to rehab W too quickly. W still supported him and even campaigned for him as have many “sane Republicans” including to my disappointment, John Warner who actually supported Mark against Gillespie three years ago when Ed ran for Senate.
re: #222 MsJ
After she spent years doing what every other republican operative did.
I have a hard time accepting this bullshit. David Gergen had something up today, as well. They both built this shit.
And wait till her heartthrob, Mitt, is back on the campaign trail.
re: #241 gwangung
Because the problem is the environment, not the candidates.
Change the environment FIRST—-or else you put up candidates designed to fail in the environment that’s been built.
Too right. Horse, then cart.
Can’t change the environment if you cannot survive in it.
re: #237 RiverBoy
It’s been pointed out a couple times that you might want to even the playing field first not just amplify their advantage by walking away from the reality.
That’s how you can reconcile thinking it’s bad and knowing the way you fix it isn’t just pretending it doesn’t exist (just for your side).
re: #244 BeachDem
And wait till her heartthrob, Mitt, is back on the campaign trail.
Agh that’s right. Mitt’s likely to run for Hatch’s spot since Hatch is stepping down. Cannot stand Mitt. Mitt’s Trump if Trump pretended to have class.
Disney backs off decision to blacklist LA Times after media boycott https://t.co/Bqe3e6CMTY pic.twitter.com/dmPOulReKj
— The Hill (@thehill) November 7, 2017
Another great reminder that once we get activated, there’s nothing we can’t achieve. #Resistance works! #weoutnumberyou https://t.co/i2NrWUpJL2
— Asha Dahya (@Ashadahya) November 7, 2017
The most pathetic thing about Gillespie is he’s only done this to get the Stewart fans who never trusted him that much due to him being the ultimate GOP insider and who nearly beat him when he ran against Stewart in the primaries. The guy is all about power and giving favors to his wealthy and connected friends. He lacks any principles. I mean screw Corey Stewart but if Corey Stewart is Theodore Bilbo, Eddie’s George Wallace promising he’d won get “out n-worded” again.
Apologies if this has been posted, but it’s just NUTS!
Trump: Gun Control Would Have Left ‘Hundreds More Dead’ In Texas church
re: #250 Skip Intro
Apologies if this has been posted, but it’s just NUTS!
Trump: Gun Control Would Have Left ‘Hundreds More Dead’ In Texas church
WTF is he babbling about.
re: #194 HappyWarrior
He really should leave FNC and write a tell all about the bullshit that goes on at that network.
I hope he drops some bombs and screws up Fox while still there so their viewers get to hear it. Then he can leave…or at that time they will fire him.
Since I never watch Fox, does he have credibility with Fox viewers so they would heed his words or would they excuse it away and say he lost it?
re: #236 JordanRules
Nah. We’re already destroyed so whatevs.
Losing a state that went to Clinton by 5 points a year ago isn’t something you can just shrug off no matter how much you want to. Hope it doesn’t happen.
re: #194 HappyWarrior
He really should leave FNC and write a tell all about the bullshit that goes on at that network.
Since he hasn’t been fired I have to assume he’s there to play a part.
re: #255 Skip Intro
Since he hasn’t been fired I have to assume he’s there to play a part.
True enough.
re: #252 ObserverArt
I hope he drops some bombs and screws up Fox while still there so their viewers get to hear it. Then he can leave…or at that time they will fire him.
Since I never watch Fox, does he have credibility with Fox viewers so they would heed his words or would they excuse it away and say he lost it?
Shep does this type of thing every so often - he’ll go off on a rant contrary to what you’d expect from FNC (the most famous one was his rant in the aftermath of Katrina) and collect plaudits from people who don’t actually watch FNC and get excited because someone at FNC is actually making sense.
I stopped getting excited about his rants a while back and just point out that it’s the exception and not the rule when he does it.
re: #237 RiverBoy
You can’t complain about the NRA holding politicians hostage with their money then turn around and say it is necessary the Democrats take some money too because they need access to mainstream media. Positions on policies will never matter as long as money is able to influence the decisions. And since the GOP takes in much more money from special interest groups they will always have a built in advantage. Again it makes no sense to me for the DNC to give the GOP that advantage and at the same time appear to covet that money that gives them the advantage.
Let me make sure I understand you here. You’re saying that because the other side always has more bullets, we should give up shiploads of our own bullets in order to win the battle? And, I guess to look pure in your eyes? It’s politics, RB. Nobody’s pure, and you fight with what you’ve got and what you can get.
re: #253 Skip Intro
But if we are already destroyed how in the hell would I expect us to win it in the first place?
Oh, let me add these //////// since folks might not get that this is snark in your response to you having declared us dead already.
We’re not destroyed either way it goes today. We focus on AL next regardless.
re: #261 JordanRules
We’ve got a ready-made conspiracy theory: The Russians.
re: #261 JordanRules
If Democrats can’t be bothered to go out and vote after 10 months of Trump what will make them do it?
re: #263 Belafon
I’m just going to start voting in Russia’s elections.
re: #264 Skip Intro
That, I really don’t know. Hopefully turnout doesn’t keep us wondering that.
re: #221 Charles Johnson
Quit TweetDeck and relaunched and boom - I now have 280 characters to rant with.
280 characters to get wingnuts and moonbeams even more upset with you. Expect double the abusive Tweets heading your way!
Good luck. : )
re: #267 ObserverArt
280 characters to get wingnuts and moonbeams even more upset with you. Expect double the abusive Tweets heading your way!
Good luck. : )
Just think of the misspellings and dramatic grammatical errors that we will see from Trump.
I feel pretty good about tonight honestly. I honestly can’t see Gillespie pulling this off.
re: #269 HappyWarrior
I feel pretty good about tonight honestly. I honestly can’t see Gillespie pulling this off.
I’ll take the word of someone in VA. All of the governor elections there have been close.
re: #176 Renaissance_Man
I actually think both you and Riverboy are making valid points. I agree with you and others re the need to accept large donations in this craptastic, corrupt environment…but I also agree with him re feelings of despair and apathy amongst people who might otherwise vote Dem (NOT the racist shitheads. They’re beyond salvation. I’m talking about the ~45% of people who just plain don’t show up to vote, even if gerrymandering/voter ID aren’t a significant limiting factor).
Consider the following excerpt from Chris Hedges’ book “Unspeakable”:
“American politics is anti-politics. Culture wars have replaced political debate. The Democrats co-opted the liberal elites, minorities and unions. The Republican Party embraced the Christian right, nativists and opponents of abortion rights. The Republicans and the Democrats looked at their supporters as useful idiots. It worked for a while. Then, the manipulated and the abandoned rose up. Voters flocked to the Trump and Sanders’ political insurgencies.
It was a bankrupt liberal establishment that made possible the rise of totalitarianism in Germany and Russia. From Fyodor Dostoevsky to Hannah Arendt [astute observers have] singled out a failed liberalism as the cause of widespread hopelessness and isolation that led to totalitarianism. They understood that stories of rage begin as stories of despair. Liberalism, by constantly betraying its stated values, destroyed itself. It left the working poor bereft of support. Incremental and piecemeal reform within the system became impossible. When the underclasses turned against the liberal establishment in Weimar Germany or revolutionary Russia, they rejected not only its representatives, but the values liberals claimed to represent. A desperate population searched for a messianic leader who would bring new glory, strength, moral renewal and vengeance.
We can continue to vote for these self-identified liberals, but the problem will only get worse. Trump may disappear. But someone as vile will rise to take his place. The mantra of the “least worse” does not work—look at the steady deterioration in American politics. The “least worst” paves the way for the worst.
Agree with him or not, the last part especially seems to sum up the messaging problem Democrats have right now. So…how do we craft a message that actually speaks to non-voters, and how do we get it out despite all the systemic disadvantages like a hostile or hapless media? That’s the conversation to have.
re: #270 Belafon
I’ll take the word of someone in VA. All of the governor elections there have been close.
It’s going to be close. I say less than 5 points when we’re through but I think Northam as well Justin Fairfax and Mark Herring and a net gain of Democrats in the House of Delegates will be there.
49.7-44.4
That was Clinton’s margin of victory in Virginia last year. I will be curious to see how close to that 5 point margin it gets tonight.
Thing you guys have to realize about Gillespie is he barely won a low turnout primary in June. He’s also the type of Republican who the base dislikes. They’ll be voting for him but he’s nowhere near the campaigner that past successful Republican gubernatorial candidates have been. I didn’t like Bob McDonnell at all but when he won here in 2009, he did it by portraying himself as a reasonable moderate and George Allen and Jim Gilmore won here when the state was much different than it is now. So yeah I think Ralph pulls this out. I have to think that voters are tired of Gillespie’s negative campaigning. Most of his ads have been very negative.
re: #273 KGxvi
49.7-44.4
That was Clinton’s margin of victory in Virginia last year. I will be curious to see how close to that 5 point margin it gets tonight.
I think it will be around that perhaps with Ralph getting over 50%. I want to advise our non-Virginia lizards though. Do NOT freak out if Ed leads early. Our rural and heavily Republican counties and precincts report first.
Chuck U on Press the Meat still doing the “Let’s Ask Trump Voters”. Time to shut off Sirius for 7 more minutes and Ari comes on…
re: #275 HappyWarrior
I think it will be around that perhaps with Ralph getting over 50%. I want to advise our non-Virginia lizards though. Do NOT freak out if Ed leads early. Our rural and heavily Republican counties and precincts report first.
Superstition requires us to panic.
re: #276 Joe Bacon 🌹
Chuck U on Press the Meat still doing the “Let’s Ask Trump Voters”. Time to shut off Sirius for 7 more minutes and Ari comes on…
You know, I never saw a “Let’s ask Obama” voters or even “Let’s Ask Bush voters.” So much focus for a guy who lost the popular vote.
re: #277 Belafon
Superstition requires us to panic.
Of course. I just hope it’s a good night. Gillespie is such a sleazebag opportunist.
Carter Page Tapped For Lead Role In New ‘Gilligan’s Island Movie
goofy sidekick and fuckup natural for the role, says his parole officer
re: #280 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
Carter Page Tapped For Lead Role In New ‘Gilligan’s Island Movie
goofy sidekick and fuckup natural for the role, says his parole officer
I started to read the transcript, but there were so many Trump talking points int he opening statement, I tuned out and my eyes glazed over. I did like the bit of “I’ve never met Donald Trump, been in several meetings with him, but never met him face to face.”
In the immortal words of Scooby Doo, “Ahh rooooo?”
re: #275 HappyWarrior
I think it will be around that perhaps with Ralph getting over 50%. I want to advise our non-Virginia lizards though. Do NOT freak out if Ed leads early. Our rural and heavily Republican counties and precincts report first.
i’m sorry i’ve been permanently freaked out for about exactly a year now not sure why thinking of disabling my tv and internet
re: #283 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
i’m sorry i’ve been permanently freaked out for about exactly a year now not sure why thinking of disabling my tv and internet
No need to be sorry. Just telling people do not be alarmed when it comes to that. I do hate though how we in NoVa always have to save the day. Love my state but we’d be like any other deep South state if not for our population centers.
When you suddenly realize @realDonaldTrump has #280characters now too. pic.twitter.com/2VI9krQADF
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) November 7, 2017
I remember when there were non-stop “ask the Obama voters” at times like these…. What’s that you say? They were Tea Partiers?
re: #286 Barefoot Grin
I remember when there were non-stop “ask the Obama voters” at times like these…. What’s that you say? They were Tea Partiers?
There wasn’t. And no one has attempted to try to figure out the HRC voters even though we were the actual majority.
CIA suspects its own director may be trying to shield Trump from Russia probe https://t.co/Yg5mCpY1mx #TuesdayThoughts
— John Persinos (@JohnPersinos1) November 7, 2017
re: #288 JordanRules
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re: #280 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
Carter Page Tapped For Lead Role In New ‘Gilligan’s Island Movie
goofy sidekick and fuckup natural for the role, says his parole officer
Last night we were positing that his testimony was out of a Coen brothers’ movie, but I think Charlie Pierce has it pegged more accurately:
There is a section in which Page is asked if he’s taking the Fifth Amendment that apparently was written by Lewis Carroll.
— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) November 7, 2017
re: #289 HappyWarrior
Yup. He’s doing exactly what he’s supposed to. The Republic be damned.
Ari Melber is reporting that Trump’s former personal bodyguard and letter carrier Keith Schiller is now going to be called in and grilled by Mueller and Gang about Russia, etc.
Does everyone else have 280 characters? Because I don’t!
re: #293 Dr. Matt
Does everyone else have 280 characters? Because I don’t!
Well, I don’t, but that could be related to the fact I don’t have a Twitter account.
re: #294 calochortus
Well, I don’t, but that could be related to the fact I don’t have a Twitter account.
:|
re: #259 whitebeach
Not what I am saying at all. The money part is not where their advantage comes from. The Clinton campaign raised and used more money than Trump did and it still amounted to a loss. The advantage part is that the GOP can take as much money they want from any horrible billionaire they can find and their base doesn’t blink an eye. They will not lose votes for being corrupted by money as long as they spout the red meat their base loves. The DNC does not have that luxury. There is no juicy red meat to throw out there that will unite the entire left and turn a blind eye to corruption.
re: #290 BeachDem
Last night we were positing that his testimony was out of a Coen brothers’ movie, but I think Charlie Pierce has it pegged more accurately:
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i replied to him w my little jest
Right…
If liberalism has failed anyone in this country, it’s the people that still vote for liberals. Are they telling me that liberalism has failed middle upper class white people and the old people spending their Social Security checks on the survival foods and gold the see on Fox? Are they suggesting that these individuals are as bad off as Russian peasants under the Tsar and the Germans during the Wiemar Republic? Are they insinuating that Russia under the Tsar and the Weimer Republic were even particularly liberal? Or are they using liberal in the sense of economic liberalism?
Charging the blitzkrieg on horseback comes to mind. You fight using the rules at your disposal. Purity will bury liberals.
I was just checking FR’s take on the Virginia election and came upon this gem:
To: Interesting Times
I voted at a solidly GOP precinct. No line. My gut feel is that light turnout generally favors GOP — because light turnout means uninteresting election and Dems are too lazy to bother.
123 posted on 11/7/2017, 2:02:21 PM by Calvin Cooledge
Then someone down thread was worried about fraud because Freepers were reporting light turnouts in their precincts but the reported turnout numbers were fairly high, so where were these voters??????
Possibly in liberal precincts, but what do I know?
there are more of these poor insecure macho nerds than one might think
McInnes calls the Proud Boys a “fraternal order” dedicated to a concept he calls “Western chauvinism,” which is roughly spelled out in the Proud Boys’ list of “tenets,” published in the official Proud Boys magazine.
They include closed borders, free speech, gun rights, and “venerating the housewife.” Proud Boys also abide by a “no wanks” rule, which is a loose prohibition on masturbation, because, they say, it is better to have sex and produce babies.
“Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is ‘a Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world’,” according to the Proud Boy Magazine.
I don’t have 280 yet either, at least not in my all. I even logged out and back in again.
re: #190 Kragar
So now not only the neo-Nazis, but also I will have this feature? /
re: #301 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
That’s a sad sounding group.
re: #299 Amory Blaine
Charging the blitzkrieg on horseback comes to mind. You fight using the rules at your disposal. Purity will bury liberals.
Seems apt:
Half a league, half a league,
Half a league onward,
All in the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
“Forward, the Light Brigade!
Charge for the guns!” he said.
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
re: #298 Weaselone
Right…
If liberalism has failed anyone in this country, it’s the people that still vote for liberals. Are they telling me that liberalism has failed middle upper class white people and the old people spending their Social Security checks on the survival foods and gold the see on Fox? Are they suggesting that these individuals are as bad off as Russian peasants under the Tsar and the Germans during the Wiemar Republic? Are they insinuating that Russia under the Tsar and the Weimer Republic were even particularly liberal? Or are they using liberal in the sense of economic liberalism?
they are using “liberalism” in the sense of some weird strawman philosophy concocted for them by foxnews et al which doesn’t even have the good grace to be definite or coherent, but can conveniently be said to be overcome since it never existed in the first place
you can ask a wingnut what “liberalism” is, but i’ll wager you won’t get a very useable answer
re: #301 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
there are more of these poor insecure macho nerds than one might think
McInnes calls the Proud Boys a “fraternal order” dedicated to a concept he calls “Western chauvinism,” which is roughly spelled out in the Proud Boys’ list of “tenets,” published in the official Proud Boys magazine.
They include closed borders, free speech, gun rights, and “venerating the housewife.” Proud Boys also abide by a “no wanks” rule, which is a loose prohibition on masturbation, because, they say, it is better to have sex and produce babies.
“Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is ‘a Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world’,” according to the Proud Boy Magazine.
Depending on your definition of “modern”, nobody alive today can claim they created the modern world. At most, there’s a handful, and that’s people like Bill Gates, not these… wankers.
re: #296 RiverBoy
Not what I am saying at all. The money part is not where their advantage comes from. The Clinton campaign raised and used more money than Trump did and it still amounted to a loss. The advantage part is that the GOP can take as much money they want from any horrible billionaire they can find and their base doesn’t blink an eye. They will not lose votes for being corrupted by money as long as they spout the red meat their base loves. The DNC does not have that luxury. There is no juicy red meat to throw out there that will unite the entire left and turn a blind eye to corruption.
I still can’t quite get a handle on your point. Are you faulting Dems for taking money from billionaires, “horrible” or not, or for not throwing red meat to their base?
re: #301 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
there are more of these poor insecure macho nerds than one might think
McInnes calls the Proud Boys a “fraternal order” dedicated to a concept he calls “Western chauvinism,” which is roughly spelled out in the Proud Boys’ list of “tenets,” published in the official Proud Boys magazine.
They include closed borders, free speech, gun rights, and “venerating the housewife.” Proud Boys also abide by a “no wanks” rule, which is a loose prohibition on masturbation, because, they say, it is better to have sex and produce babies.
“Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is ‘a Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world’,” according to the Proud Boy Magazine.
E-gads!
re: #276 Joe Bacon 🌹
Chuck U on Press the Meat still doing the “Let’s Ask Trump Voters”. Time to shut off Sirius for 7 more minutes and Ari comes on…
There are many things I’d like to ask Trump voters, but I guess I’d start with, “How’s the view in there? See any polyps or hemorrhoids?”
re: #296 RiverBoy
Not what I am saying at all. The money part is not where their advantage comes from. The Clinton campaign raised and used more money than Trump did and it still amounted to a loss. The advantage part is that the GOP can take as much money they want from any horrible billionaire they can find and their base doesn’t blink an eye. They will not lose votes for being corrupted by money as long as they spout the red meat their base loves. The DNC does not have that luxury. There is no juicy red meat to throw out there that will unite the entire left and turn a blind eye to corruption.
There are a couple of things to unpack here. The comparison of Clinton fundraising to Trump’s discounts like…basically the entire foreign government effort to discredit her along with *COMEY* and Congressional Republicans spending every waking moment for between two and thirty years smearing her. It discounts the media coverage of her and her positions (well, the lack of coverage in her position). It discounts voter suppression in key states. It presupposes Clinton lost because of things she did wrong, instead of factors unique to this particular election (like misogyny).
The second is the assumption that money equals corruption. Or that the sum of money equals corruption, rather than any actual attempts to quid pro quo. That rich donors never give money to people who actually hold similar views, but only to those willing to change their views because of money. I don’t think this is technically a proven. Asshole politicians who take office to earn money are affected by people giving them money. Politicians who take office to affect change, not so much. Doesn’t change the fact that tv spots, ad buys, GOTV efforts, and rallies cost money.
re: #260 Dr. Matt
Portion size is quite generous, eh?
I couldn’t eat the whole thing in one sitting now, and probably shouldn’t anyway.
re: #309 whitebeach
I am saying taking money, as a politician, from billionaires to fund your campaign is at the very least the perception of corruption. Not many billionaires hand over huge sums of money and expect nothing in return. The point I have been trying to make is that the GOP will always have the built in advantage because they have a base that will turn a blind eye to it. The Democrats on the other hand have to get votes from people that actually care if they’re represented by non-corrupted officials. In your first question you used bullets as a metaphor for money in politics so maybe this might explain my point. Not all bullets hit their intended target. The GOP base are easy targets. The DNC has much more difficult targets to hit. And in the times you miss you target unintended consequences may occur. So while the GOP are over there shooting fish in the barrel, The DNC are getting some hits here and there but at the same time some of them are shooting themselves it the foot. That isn’t working out from my point of view.
re: #163 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
He is one of Lubbock’s leading citizens and most vocal activists.
People who have never been to Lubbock might be tempted to think that I am weirdly fixated on the negative aspects of the place.
Those who have been there would probably think I am too easy on the place.
I’ve gotten drunk on The Slide.
re: #301 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
there are more of these poor insecure macho nerds than one might think
McInnes calls the Proud Boys a “fraternal order” dedicated to a concept he calls “Western chauvinism,” which is roughly spelled out in the Proud Boys’ list of “tenets,” published in the official Proud Boys magazine.
They include closed borders, free speech, gun rights, and “venerating the housewife.” Proud Boys also abide by a “no wanks” rule, which is a loose prohibition on masturbation, because, they say, it is better to have sex and produce babies.
“Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is ‘a Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world’,” according to the Proud Boy Magazine.
‘Proud Boys’ - nerds who can’t get laid.
re: #317 makeitstop
‘Proud Boys’ - nerds who can’t get laid.
That’s an insult to nerds who can’t get laid.