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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2017 • 5:33:08pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 10, 2017 • 5:38:14pm

Should I go see this woman sing by myself for free or should I stay at home alone? The style of music is not really my cup of tea.

Everything Happens To Me

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 10, 2017 • 5:42:03pm

Okay, just not getting the whole ‘whacking off in front of a woman’ thing.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2017 • 5:43:18pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 10, 2017 • 5:45:41pm

Copied from the previous thread, which came to an end with this thread:

re: #305 Anymouse 🌹

My wife just posted her version of our walkout of the Veterans Day event we attended at Daily Kos.

dailykos.com

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Bubblehead II  Nov 10, 2017 • 5:48:03pm

ARRRGH! CLed the last thread.

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gocart mozart  Nov 10, 2017 • 5:49:24pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 10, 2017 • 5:49:34pm

So on the topic of the thread itself, what new bot exposés are meant? I apparently have no idea what the hell is going on.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 10, 2017 • 5:50:41pm

re: #6 Bubblehead II

ARRRGH! CLed the last thread.

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So basically “I hate how liberals see gender identity I.e I’m gonna to defend a pedo.” GFY Erick.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 10, 2017 • 5:51:16pm

re: #9 HappyWarrior

So basically “I hate how liberals see gender identity I.e I’m gonna to defend a pedo.” GFY Erick.

Hey, like I said last night, pedophilia is no big thing to these guys as long as it’s not gay.

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nicdanger  Nov 10, 2017 • 5:53:10pm

re: #5 Anymouse 🌹

i gave it a recommend,using the original version of my handle

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HappyWarrior  Nov 10, 2017 • 5:54:11pm

re: #10 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Hey, like I said last night, pedophilia is no big thing to these guys as long as it’s not gay.

That I think was their only objection to Milo.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 10, 2017 • 5:55:30pm

There’s big GD difference between forcing a teenager into sex as a grown ass man and accepting a child’s choice of gender identity at an early age. Erick goddamn knwos that.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 10, 2017 • 5:55:51pm

re: #7 gocart mozart

Fish Lips isn’t a senator. Never mind, I just noticed Cohn is on the right, too.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 10, 2017 • 5:56:20pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

That I think was their only objection to Milo.

I’m not joking. These guys think there’s nothing wrong with being attracted to young girls… they’re girls, after all. But being attracted to boys, well, now you’re in deep shit, son. That’s an unforgivable sin according to the Wingnut Bible.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 10, 2017 • 5:57:06pm

re: #15 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m not joking. These guys think there’s nothing wrong with being attracted to young girls… they’re girls, after all. But being attracted to boys, well, now you’re in deep shit, son. That’s an unforgivable sin according to the Wingnut Bible.

Oh I know you’re not.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 10, 2017 • 5:57:57pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

I can’t fathom how someone would have such a twisted idea of “dating”. It’s about power, it’s about control, it’s about objectying women.

And it’s happening way too much in our culture.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 10, 2017 • 5:59:22pm

re: #17 Eclectic Cyborg

I can’t fathom how someone would have such a twisted idea of “dating”. It’s about power, it’s about control, it’s about objectying women.

And it’s happening way too much in our culture.

This is the MRA’s idea of dating.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 10, 2017 • 5:59:45pm

I’d feel wrong if I asked a college undergrad out. A high school girl? Are you frigging kidding me. You’re talking about someone who wasn’t even in grade school when I finished high school. Moore’s a creep and his enablers are even worse.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:00:15pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

The election, Trumps actions, the tax screw job and all these sex crimes from familiar faces. I can’t remember ever being more cynical about the inhumanity of the humans that make the big money, become the powerful stars, directors, CEO’s. POTUS. Gah. As was wisely pointed out downstairs, every one of these cretins did major damage to numerous lives. So much has come out it’s sickening. But what we all have not yet come to terms with yet is just the surface is being scratched. I don’t trust the depth or longevity of this recent awareness. I’ll be more impressed when the shift manager at the convenience store won’t leer at the young employee looking for a day off or a shift change. Long ways to go.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:00:21pm

I love how the one GOP dude was talking about the age gap between Mary and Joseph as if NOTHING HAS FUCKING CHANGED in the past 2000 years.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:00:39pm

re: #9 HappyWarrior

So basically “I hate how liberals see gender identity I.e I’m gonna to defend a pedo.” GFY Erick.

Conservatives like Erik see the erosion of traditional gender norms as so personally threatening that they conflate that perception with some undefined harm to the child. When in fact it is the shame and punishment involved in the enforcement of conformity that he advocates for which actually results in the death of so many trans and non-binary kids.

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gocart mozart  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:00:49pm

The guy with the great “punching nazis” bit did this Trumpless Correspondence Dinner

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:00:51pm

re: #18 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

This is the MRA’s idea of dating.

MRAs just need to buy Fleshlights and stop bothering women.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:02:02pm

re: #24 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

MRAs just need to buy Fleshlights and stop bothering women.

Spot on. I would be perfectly content if they went off and fucked themselves.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:02:09pm

re: #21 Eclectic Cyborg

I love how the one GOP dude was talking about the age gap between Mary and Joseph as if NOTHING HAS FUCKING CHANGED in the past 2000 years.

I’m no theologian but wasn’t Mary and Joseph’s relationship well non-sexual. And yeah things do change even if you do believe that story to be 100% true. Don’t any of these guys have teenage daughters? Or care? The worst response though by far was that one guy who said Moore’s accusers ought to be tried. That’s some Taliban shit there.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:03:02pm

re: #19 HappyWarrior

For me honestly it’s a maturity thing. Most 18 to 22 year olds just wouldn’t be a good match for me on an intellectual and experience level.

If I were suddenly single again the youngest I’d date is probably 26/27 (I’m 36).

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:03:52pm

re: #19 HappyWarrior

I’d feel wrong if I asked a college undergrad out. A high school girl? Are you frigging kidding me. You’re talking about someone who wasn’t even in grade school when I finished high school. Moore’s a creep and his enablers are even worse.

I like a rule a late 40’s friend has. No younger than half his age plus ten.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:04:11pm

re: #27 Eclectic Cyborg

For me honestly it’s a maturity thing. Most 18 to 22 year olds just wouldn’t be a good match for me on an intellectual and experience level.

If I were suddenly single again the youngest I’d date is probably 26/27 (I’m 36).

I’m 30. I think the youngest I’d date right now would be 22. Someone soon or about to be out of college. My parents have a eight year gap. Mom was a senior when they met I believe.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:04:59pm

re: #28 Unshaken Defiance

I like a rule a late 40’s friend has. No younger than half his age plus ten.

To be honest, a teenage girl aside from being wrong wouldn’t be fun. Someone close to my age, we would have a lot of the same experiences.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:05:43pm

re: #28 Unshaken Defiance

I like a rule a late 40’s friend has. No younger than half his age plus ten.

The standard “Creepiness Rule” I’ve heard is half your age plus seven. It converges at around 15 years old, whereas the +10 rule converges around 19 years old.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:06:05pm

re: #19 HappyWarrior

I’d feel wrong if I asked a college undergrad out. A high school girl? Are you frigging kidding me. You’re talking about someone who wasn’t even in grade school when I finished high school. Moore’s a creep and his enablers are even worse.

I’m 44 and I’d feel weird if I asked someone under 35 out. There’s a point where the gap in shared cultural experience becomes a real long term relationship roadblock.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:06:25pm

re: #32 goddamnedfrank

I’m 44 and I’d feel weird if I asked someone under 35 out. There’s a point where the gap in shared cultural experience becomes a real long term relationship roadblock.

Absolutely.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:07:33pm

Man says to me today-All these old allegations? Why wait?
“Remember all those famous guys getting jailed or fired or scorned for abusing their power sexually or anyway at all in back then?”
“No” he says. “Me neither” says I “what does that tell you?”

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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:07:47pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:08:22pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

Well it was sexual at some point because Jesus had other siblings, but the principal difference between now and then is:

1. Women didn’t have careers, they bore the children and looked after the home while the men worked.

2. Life spans were a LOT shorter and medicine was much less advanced. Marrying women off young guaranteed fertility and the continuance of the human race. In addition, if an average person had 6 children they’d be doing good if 3 of them saw adulthood. There was no choice but to procreate at a high rate given the realities of the time and the MUCH higher childhood mortality rate.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:08:24pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

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Yeah, in a just world, Erick would be worst of the worst but he’s “fairly sane.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:08:45pm

I have no rules of thumb on age gaps.

It’s the people involved that matter. If both parties are consenting adults, it’s up to them. It’s the two adults in the relationship that are either going to make it work or break it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:09:16pm

re: #36 Eclectic Cyborg

Well it was sexual at some point because Jesus had other siblings, but the principal difference between now and then is:

1. Women didn’t have careers, they bore the children and looked after the home while the men worked.

2. Life spans were a LOT shorter and medicine was much less advanced. Marrying women off young guaranteed fertility and the continuance of the human race. In addition, if an average person had 6 children they’d be doing good if 3 of them saw adulthood. There was no choice but to procreate at a high rate given the realities of the time and the MUCH higher childhood mortality rate.

True, true. It’s such a shitty defense in any case because as you say 2000 years ago.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:10:08pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:10:37pm

re: #32 goddamnedfrank

I’m 44 and I’d feel weird if I asked someone under 35 out. There’s a point where the gap in shared cultural experience becomes a real long term relationship roadblock.

I mean, if you want it to be, sure.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:11:46pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

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Skip Intro  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:13:55pm

re: #7 gocart mozart

Don’t know which is worse, the dumb ass reporters screaming over each or the smug bastards sitting at the table smiling.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:13:59pm

On an OT note but an old friend who works at the State Department posted a story about how Tillerson is offering buyouts to cut staff. What in the hell.

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retired cynic  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:14:31pm

re: #38 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have no rules of thumb on age gaps.

It’s the people involved that matter. If both parties are consenting adults, it’s up to them. It’s the two adults in the relationship that are either going to make it work or break it.

Hear, hear. I was 26 and my husband 46 when we got married. Lasted until he died at 88. Let’s leave the moralizing for non-adults.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:15:56pm

re: #45 retired cynic

Hear, hear. I was 26 and my husband 46 when we got married. Lasted until he died at 88. Let’s leave the moralizing for non-adults.

I’m honestly not trying to moralize. Just a personal preference.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:18:02pm

I’m 46, and I honestly don’t think I could date anyone younger than 36. Seriously, being able to have a conversation is important to me.

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retired cynic  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:18:11pm

re: #46 HappyWarrior

I’m honestly not trying to moralize. Just a personal preference.

I understand, but I refuse to believe that our relationship was creepy, or that we lacked shared cultural experiences.

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scottslemmons  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:18:19pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

On an OT note but an old friend who works at the State Department posted a story about how Tillerson is offering buyouts to cut staff. What in the hell.

Dude who works for the Russians wants to kill America’s ability to act against Russian interests. Damnedest thang.

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retired cynic  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:19:14pm

re: #47 Ace Rothstein

I’m 46, and I honestly don’t think I could date anyone younger than 36. Seriously, being able to have a conversation is important to me.

You know, we talked for over 40 years! This convo is bothering me.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:19:50pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:20:42pm

re: #48 retired cynic

I understand, but I refuse to believe that our relationship was creepy, or that we lacked shared cultural experiences.

Okay absolutely fair enough. Deeply sorry if I offended.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:21:03pm

re: #50 retired cynic

I’m only stating my personal preference, and of course there are always exceptions. I’m not judging anyone except Roy Moore who is a creepy old fuck. I apologize if my earlier comment came across the wrong way.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:21:10pm

re: #49 scottslemmons

Dude who works for the Russians wants to kill America’s ability to act against Russian interests. Damnedest thang.

Yep. It’s messed up.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:23:03pm

re: #50 retired cynic

You know, we talked for over 40 years! This convo is bothering me.

{{hugs}}

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:23:07pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

On an OT note but an old friend who works at the State Department posted a story about how Tillerson is offering buyouts to cut staff. What in the hell.

Rachel had a great mono last night about “Why?” regarding all the State Dept. shit last night.

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retired cynic  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:23:28pm

re: #55 klys (maker of Silmarils)

{{hugs}}

Thank you. Hugs back.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:24:12pm

re: #56 Ace Rothstein

Rachel had a great mono last night about “Why?” regarding all the State Dept. shit last night.

There’s so much crap going on that we sometimes miss it. My brother alerted me about the Trump DOJ trying to stop a merger and force CNN out. I believe we sorta talked it about earlier because Murdoch wants to buy CNN. That guy in control of CNN and FNC would be awful.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:25:28pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

“Awful” is being way too nice.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:25:52pm

re: #59 Ace Rothstein

“Awful” is being way too nice.

Yeah it does understate it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:26:02pm

I just went back and read the E-mail from my brother-in-law I posted to Daily Kos after the Dumpster fire of a speech that wingnut gave at our Memorial Day service at our village cemetery.

I am crying again. That E-mail two years later still makes me cry.

Forgive me whilst I take a break and compose myself.

dailykos.com

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:27:28pm

James O’Keefe Is Fighting His Insurance Company

Why would anyone insure a fraud with a history of deception and defamation against lawsuits? The man is a walking liability.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:28:00pm

re: #62 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

James O’Keefe Is Fighting His Insurance Company

Why would anyone insure a fraud with a history of deception and defamation against lawsuits? The man is a walking liability.

You know the vig insurance companies get?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:28:24pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

There’s so much crap going on that we sometimes miss it. My brother alerted me about the Trump DOJ trying to stop a merger and force CNN out. I believe we sorta talked it about earlier because Murdoch wants to buy CNN. That guy in control of CNN and FNC would be awful.

It would be good news for MSNBC, but terrible for the country.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:30:07pm

re: #56 Ace Rothstein

Rachel had a great mono last night about “Why?” regarding all the State Dept. shit last night.

In my email alerts this morning (China time) was this Guardian article about Trump lambasting the entire APEC assembly about how they supposedly have cheated the USA in trade.

theguardian.com

He included “GYYNA” in that group, just days after he was kissing Xi Jinping’s ass in Beijing. And Tillerson tried to paint over Trump’s bellicosity, but it was too little, too late.

Trump has sunk US relations with Asian countries, probably for decades, maybe forever. China will step in to fill the void, especially as we now have no functioning State Department to ameliorate the damage done.

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bratwurst  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:34:32pm

I am old enough to remember when Trump ran on being TOUGH on China.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:37:36pm

Another chapter in China’s version of GamerGate.

To put all this in context, a few weeks ago, Naomi Wu criticized a US-based maker (digital hobbyist) convention for not having any female makers as presenters. Things went rapidly downhill from there.

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scottslemmons  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:38:40pm

re: #66 bratwurst

I am old enough to remember when Trump ran on being TOUGH on China.

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Everyone has caught on to how to deal with Trump. “Ooooh, Donald, you’re so manly and great!” (steals wallet)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:43:45pm

re: #66 bratwurst

I am old enough to remember when Trump ran on being TOUGH on China.

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Mitchell is even stupider than I thought.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:44:26pm

re: #62 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

James O’Keefe Is Fighting His Insurance Company

Why would anyone insure a fraud with a history of deception and defamation against lawsuits? The man is a walking liability.

This was my first thought. Not sure what insurance would cover intentional bad acts.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:45:24pm

re: #66 bratwurst

I am old enough to remember when Trump ran on being TOUGH on China.

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Jay C  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:46:20pm

re: #65 wheat-dogg

In my email alerts this morning (China time) was this Guardian article about Trump lambasting the entire APEC assembly about how they supposedly have cheated the USA in trade.

theguardian.com

He included “GYYNA” in that group, just days after he was kissing Xi Jinping’s ass in Beijing. And Tillerson tried to paint over Trump’s bellicosity, but it was too little, too late.

Trump has sunk US relations with Asian countries, probably for decades, maybe forever. China will step in to fill the void, especially as we now have no functioning State Department to ameliorate the damage done.

And even worse, neither Trump nor anybody else in the Administration seems to have even the least glimmer of any sort of alternative policy to propose: insult and bluster might make for good mentions in the RW press ( the MSM will probably ignore it) but sooner or later (likely sooner) somebody is going have to come up with some sort of concrete proposal to deal with the supposed “cheating”. - and short of a tariff war (which the US, despite its enormous market, is unlikely to win), it’s hard to see what “we”, I.e. this idiot regime can do.

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Kragar  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:46:29pm

re: #66 bratwurst

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:46:48pm

My wife just made the recommended list at Daily Kos, her first time on the list.

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bratwurst  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:47:57pm

BIG ANNOUNCEMENT:

Pointing to cold weather as evidence against climate change season has arrived!

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wheat-dogg  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:48:12pm

re: #66 bratwurst

I am old enough to remember when Trump ran on being TOUGH on China.

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There is no question that Xi and the Party bent over backwards to stroke Trump’s ego. The media here (Party controlled, all of them) have depicted Trump mostly in a positive light, which translates into the public believing him to be some kind of honorable leader. At the same time, people get to watch Xi Jinping out-maneuver Trump, as (I believe) it’s an “open secret” here that Trump is a dolt, all bark and no bite.

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stpaulbear  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:49:27pm
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Jay C  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:49:32pm

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹

My wife just made the recommended list at Daily Kos, her first time on the list.

Mazel Tov! Hope my recc and upding helped!

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wheat-dogg  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:49:56pm

re: #75 bratwurst

BIG ANNOUNCEMENT:

Pointing to cold weather as evidence against climate change season has arrived!

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How can their be global warming if I have to put on a coat to go outside? Check mate, libtard!

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Kragar  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:53:23pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:53:39pm

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:54:07pm

re: #75 bratwurst

BIG ANNOUNCEMENT:

Pointing to cold weather as evidence against climate change season has arrived!

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It’s 13 degrees F (-10.6 degrees C) in the wild north country tonight. But global warming is still real. Go fuck yourselves, wingnuts.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:55:07pm

re: #80 Kragar

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Are you kidding and this has been my answer for years.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:55:22pm

re: #78 Jay C

Mazel Tov! Hope my recc and upding helped!

My wife thanks the Lizard Academy, her mother, &c.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:56:56pm

re: #82 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s 13 degrees F (-10.6 degrees C) in the wild north country tonight. But global warming is still real. Go fuck yourselves, wingnuts.

It’s fifty degrees in the Nebraska Panhandle.

It should be below freezing this time of night.

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Kragar  Nov 10, 2017 • 6:58:03pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:09:25pm

re: #86 Kragar

Ron Perlman showing how to rock 280 in style.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:11:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:12:00pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

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Agh.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:12:54pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

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Renaissance_Man  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:13:30pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

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Doing what Bannon wants him to do. Bannon told everyone - the goal is the deconstruction of the state, the dismantling of the United States government. Trump wants nothing except praise and the pleasure of being cruel to people. Bannon has much larger goals.

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petesh  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:16:26pm

re: #3 Blind Frog Belly White

Okay, just not getting the whole ‘whacking off in front of a woman’ thing.

Me neither. As a fetish it seems really weird to me, in fact about the ultimate in de-humanizing (so how the hell did they get away with it so long?), and personally I cannot imagine doing it. People are strange but then I am a people too.

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The Major  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:20:23pm

re: #67 wheat-dogg

This looks rather vicious to me….

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Bubblehead II  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:21:25pm

Lizards. Going to call it night. Off for the next week or so to tend to the Mate. She had to have a biopsy (came back clear), but the opening isn’t healing as well as it should. So I get to go and learn how to properly unpack and pack a puncture wound. This is not going to be fun.

This vid is of a leg wound. Her is is a belly wound. WARNING! NOT FOR THE WEAK OF STOMACH Procedure is the same though.

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One of the things I am going to ask for (if possible) is some Lidocaine to soak the 1st couple of inches in to deaden the the pain of the last 6 inches going in.

And before you ask, no, the office calls to have this done twice daily are not (fully) covered by insurance for some reason.

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retired cynic  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:23:19pm

re: #94 Bubblehead II

Lizards. Going to call it night. Off for the next week or so to tend to the Mate. She had to have a biopsy (came back clear), but the opening isn’t healing as well as it should. So I get to go and learn how to properly unpack and pack a puncture wound. This is not going to be fun.

This vid is of a leg wound. Her is is a belly wound. WARNING! NOT FOR THE WEAK OF STOMACH Procedure is the same though.
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One of the things I am going to ask for (if possible) is some Lidocaine to soak the 1st couple of inches in to deaden the the pain of the last 6 inches going in.

And before you ask, no, the office calls to have this done twice daily are not (fully) covered by insurance for some reason.

Please tell her we are thinking of her. And you, too!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:23:21pm

re: #94 Bubblehead II

{{{Bubblehead and Mate}}}

Sorry to hear that. I hope you and the Mate are okay. I’ll send prayers and positive vibes, and unlike the “thoughts and prayers” group, if there’s anything concrete I can do to be of assistance, just drop me a private message and I’ll get it eventually and respond.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:25:09pm

[Bubblehead and Bubblehead mate]

My wife had to go through that a few years ago. My sympathies, and I hope everything works out well.

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Varek Raith  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:25:42pm

re: #94 Bubblehead II

Best of luck to you both.

I feel woozy just reading that.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:27:01pm

Completely OT, but my Samsung was breaking down so I just got an iPhone se. Should I update to iOS 11.1.1? I only have the lowest memory (32) phone.

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The Major  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:27:50pm

re: #94 Bubblehead II

And before you ask, no, the office calls to have this done twice daily are not (fully) covered by insurance for some reason.

Now THAT really sucks - because it should be covered.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:29:38pm

re: #93 The Major

This looks rather vicious to me….

Combining racism, misogyny, and tech-bro arrogance — yeah. She’s become the latest target of insecure man-boys.

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dangerman  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:29:41pm

Why are all the allegations coming out now?

One reason, only one, is that now he is in both a powerful and vulnerable position with nationwide attention. at least some other people will listen.

If he was still mostly a nobody, then moslty nobody else would hear about it …and those locally, well you can already see their reaction

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Renaissance_Man  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:34:17pm

re: #94 Bubblehead II

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:34:33pm

The E-mail my brother-in-law wrote me a couple years ago when this wingnut spoke at our village’s Memorial Day remembrance. Reading it two years later it still made me cry.

Good Morning James,

Today I honor you. You and your family have been fighting a war without end for many years now. that war is against sorrow. We consider this day a memorial to our soldiers and sailors and airmen who have died in the service of our nation. Instead it is a day when I shed a tear about all of the things that never happened.

I think of a young boy [reference to me] who grew up without a father to teach him how to throw a baseball. I think of a young wife [reference to my Navy veteran mother] who lost her first love, and a daughter [reference to my Army veteran sister] who never had a dad try to braid her hair.

I think of families who forever had their futures changed and who always have an empty place at their dinner table. Holidays are always bittersweet for these veterans of sorrow. The pain is always there, but scar tissue grows around the injury in their souls and allows them to move onward with their disrupted lives, though in the quiet hours of the night, each of these family members has to deal with the unanswered questions of what could have, and what should have been.

When your father’s plane went down, I know his last thoughts were of you and your mom and sister. His sacrifice for our nation cannot be compensated, what he lost is all that a man can hold dear, his life and all that he loved. And each of you, his family also gave our nation something immeasurable in that moment, you lost a piece of yourself and the universe changed as so many possible futures were lost.

I am honored and privileged to know and love you, and to have you as a part of my family.

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retired cynic  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:35:26pm

re: #103 Renaissance_Man

Good advice.

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petesh  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:36:09pm

re: #48 retired cynic

I understand, but I refuse to believe that our relationship was creepy, or that we lacked shared cultural experiences.

When I was 42 I dated someone 17 years younger than me. We had some significant experiences in common as highly educated immigrants (she from Russia, me from Britain) but I think the fact is that when I saw her, first sight, I saw her as a peer — a very attractive peer. Long-term it didn’t work out, but we were both considering it. Life would have been very different with her and probably we are both better off apart. But these things definitely do happen! And nothing wrong with that. And sorry about your loss. Forty years sounds pretty good to me.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:37:53pm

re: #50 retired cynic

I hope I did not add to your discomfort. I can’t get Roy Moore or the old Duck Dynasty gray beard talking about 14 and 16 year olds marrying so young out of my head.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:38:21pm

Pick the Perv (Goes to Juanita Jean’s)

CNN has a video of Republican leaders being questioned about Roy Moore. It’s 44 seconds of them smiling, chuckling, gesturing, and waving off any questions about Moore. I don’t know how to embed CNN videos here so you’re going to have to follow this link to see it. (It’s the second video on the page.)

It’s disgusting.

Even more disgusting is the fact that it looks like a pervert line-up. All these old, white, Republican men thinking this whole thing is funny.

Wipe that smile off your face, McConnell.

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Bubblehead II  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:38:42pm

re: #95 retired cynic

re: #96 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹

Thanks everyone. Have to admit I was kinda blasi (siq) about doing it until it really hit me just what it was I actually had to do. The brakes went on and I told the Mate that we WERE NOT going to do this until I had some training from a qualified professional. If s/he feels I am incapable of doing it, well, we’ll figure out how to proceed from there. I think I can do it. Just need the proper training. It still scares the shit out of me. Probably why I was a Electronics Tech Tech instead of a medic.

Electronics don’t feel pain.

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Belafon  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:39:42pm

re: #108 Anymouse 🌹

Pick the Perv (Goes to Juanita Jean’s)

I bet they’d all feel comfortable talking about what health care women need.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:39:57pm

re: #99 Barefoot Grin

Completely OT, but my Samsung was breaking down so I just got an iPhone se. Should I update to iOS 11.1.1? I only have the lowest memory (32) phone.

If you are connected to wifi regularly the phone will eventually update whether you want it to or not. I haven’t heard of any major issues updating to 11.1.1. I would go ahead and do it if I were you.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:40:45pm

re: #106 petesh

There is a bit of a difference in perception of seventeen years.

A person aged seventy dating a person aged fifty-three: Not such a deal.

A person thirty-one “dating” a person fourteen? NOPE NOPE NOPE.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:42:27pm

re: #102 dangerman

Why are all the allegations coming out now?

One reason, only one, is that now he is in both a powerful and vulnerable position with nationwide attention. at least some other people will listen.

If he was still mostly a nobody, then moslty nobody else would hear about it …and those locally, well you can already see their reaction

Coming out now because of Harvey Weinstein. Otherwise there would continue to be silence about Kevin Spacey, Louis C. K. et al

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retired cynic  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:44:06pm

re: #111 Eclectic Cyborg

If you are connected to wifi regularly the phone will eventually update whether you want it to or not. I haven’t heard of any major issues updating to 11.1.1. I would go ahead and do it if I were you.

Mine won’t. It asks me if I want to do any updating. Perhaps this is a newer thing, but it is what I always liked about Apple. It asked first. Windows would catch me at the wrong time, always, and I was not familiar enough with the interface to know what to do. So now I run Windows programs in Parallels.

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dangerman  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:45:08pm

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹

There is a bit of a difference in perception of seventeen years.

A person aged seventy dating a person aged fifty-three: Not such a deal.

A person thirty-one “dating” a person fourteen? NOPE NOPE NOPE.

Abbott and costello
You’re 40, she’s 10….

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dangerman  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:45:34pm

re: #113 Hecuba’s daughter

Coming out now because of Harvey Weinstein. Otherwise there would continue to be silence about Kevin Spacey, Louis C. K. et al

That too certainly

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Belafon  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:45:40pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:46:13pm

re: #22 goddamnedfrank

Conservatives like Erik see the erosion of traditional gender norms as so personally threatening that they conflate that perception with some undefined harm to the child. When in fact it is the shame and punishment involved in the enforcement of conformity that he advocates for which actually results in the death of so many trans and non-binary kids.

Given my own life experience with how personally people take gender norms, I’d add to the tally a bunch more foreshortened lives. Since it’s not like these fuckers stint themselves when handing down ruling on who gets bullied for being queer.

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MsJ  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:47:06pm

re: #15 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m not joking. These guys think there’s nothing wrong with being attracted to young girls… they’re girls, after all. But being attracted to boys, well, now you’re in deep shit, son. That’s an unforgivable sin according to the Wingnut Bible.

So we’ve gone from “a dead girl or a live boy” to a boy, period. Crossing the line at boys. Girls don’t matter.

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Bubblehead II  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:47:11pm

re: #100 The Major

Now THAT really sucks - because it should be covered.

Yeah, it’s weird. Everything, but the office call itself is covered. $35.00 a pop. Sounds cheap, but $280.00 a month soon drains the resources. And if the Mitch and Paul get their way, it’s only going to get worse.

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Varek Raith  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:47:40pm

re: #115 dangerman

Not unless I come from the mountains…

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William Lewis  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:48:40pm

re: #96 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

{{{Bubblehead and Mate}}}

Sorry to hear that. I hope you and the Mate are okay. I’ll send prayers and positive vibes, and unlike the “thoughts and prayers” group, if there’s anything concrete I can do to be of assistance, just drop me a private message and I’ll get it eventually and respond.

Amen and ditto. I’m here if I can be.

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jaunte  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:49:10pm

Republicans to kids: “You’re on your own. Here’s a gun.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:51:23pm

FYI - and you can ask several others of the Lizardim if you wish - that offer is open to anyone. If you need help, drop me a line. I’m not rich, I have bills that need paying, but I am well-off enough to afford to be generous, and I will help a lizard in need if no one else can. You guys have been there when I needed you, and I always return a favor.

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majii  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:55:24pm

re: #110 Belafon

“I bet they’d all feel comfortable talking about what health care women need.”

What really, really, pisses me off about men like them is the way they’re always trying to get into our pants while at the same time they’re writing bills and passing laws governing what we can/cannot do with our own bodies. If we treated them this way, they’d be all kinds of outraged, and when we make public the things that they’re doing it to us, they claim we’re lying or that there’s a political motive behind it. They know they’re doing this sh*t to women [and some men] behind the scenes while in their public personas they’re acting holier than thou. They’re as fake as a six dollar bill.

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Bubblehead II  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:56:08pm

re: #103 Renaissance_Man

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electrotek  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:58:06pm

The Islamophobes of the Iranian diaspora won’t like the news of this:

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:58:10pm
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majii  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:58:26pm

re: #124 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

“FYI - and you can ask several others of the Lizardim if you wish - that offer is open to anyone. If you need help, drop me a line. I’m not rich, I have bills that need paying, but I am well-off enough to afford to be generous, and I will help a lizard in need if no one else can. You guys have been there when I needed you, and I always return a favor.”

Same here. Just let me know.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 10, 2017 • 7:59:39pm

I’m so glad I’m here at LGF.

Appreciate that Charles made this a home for sanity!

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JordanRules  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:00:25pm
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calochortus  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:00:30pm

re: #125 majii

“I bet they’d all feel comfortable talking about what health care women need.”

What really, really, pisses me off about men like them is the way they’re always trying to get into our pants while at the same time they’re writing bills and passing laws governing what we can/cannot do with our own bodies. If we treated them this way, they’d be all kinds of outraged, and when we make public the things that they’re doing it to us, they claim we’re lying or that there’s a political motive behind it. They know they’re doing this sh*t to women [and some men] behind the scenes while in their public personas they’re acting holier than thou. They’re as fake as a six dollar bill.

We’re property to them, so there’s no particular inconsistency, as they see it.

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Belafon  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:06:35pm
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Belafon  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:09:39pm

My new favorite popcorn gif:

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Varek Raith  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:10:16pm

re: #124 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

re: #129 majii

See, here’s the thing;
I need some plutonium.
KTHX.

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jaunte  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:13:49pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:13:58pm

re: #135 Varek Raith

See, here’s the thing;
I need some plutonium.
KTHX.

No. My stockpile is my own. Get your own damn superweapons.

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Renaissance_Man  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:14:10pm

re: #126 Bubblehead II

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Belafon  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:15:07pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:18:58pm

re: #139 Belafon

But if he’s a Trump fan, shouldn’t the multiple bankruptcies lend her credibility?

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whitebeach  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:19:04pm

re: #109 Bubblehead II

Thanks everyone. Have to admit I was kinda blasi (siq) about doing it until it really hit me just what it was I actually had to do. The brakes went on and I told the Mate that we WERE NOT going to do this until I had some training from a qualified professional. If s/he feels I am incapable of doing it, well, we’ll figure out how to proceed from there. I think I can do it. Just need the proper training. It still scares the shit out of me. Probably why I was a Electronics Tech Tech instead of a medic.

I hope it all goes well for you and the Mate. But damn it, is there any other country in the advanced world where the spouse or significant other has to perform this kind of medical work, while the pros stand aside because … um, insurance? Even in the middle of the last freakin century this wouldn’t have happened. But we as a nation and as human beings have gone insane about what matters and what doesn’t.

ETA: Couple of wds for clarity.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:20:16pm
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retired cynic  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:21:28pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

Sounds about right. Good timing. B*st*rd.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:25:42pm

re: #139 Belafon

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:25:47pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

Fucking isolationist prick.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:25:53pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

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Typical.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:26:00pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

Trump has this absolutely stupid idea that the USA should strike individual deals with each country, rather than sign a multilateral agreement. Predictably, APEC nations have told him to fuck off, we’ll make our own agreement without you.

IOW, the great dealmaker shot himself (and the USA) in the foot.

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bratwurst  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:28:18pm

I think this means Trump is meeting with Putin.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:32:09pm

re: #148 bratwurst

I think this means Trump is meeting with Putin.

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Supposedly, the meeting was called off, because the White House said their schedules didn’t mesh.

That means they met.

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calochortus  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:33:11pm

re: #141 whitebeach

I hope it all goes well for you and the Mate. But damn it, is there any other country in the advanced world where the spouse or significant other has to perform this kind of medical work, instead of having the pros stand aside because … um, insurance? Even in the middle of the last freakin century this wouldn’t have happened. But we as a nation and as human beings have gone insane about what matters and what doesn’t.

Yup. I mean, I once removed some stitches from Mr. C. because he couldn’t reach them himself, and yeah, we saved a $25 co-pay, but it also saved a lot of time (driving to the dr., waiting, getting it done, driving home.) I’m not sure I’d want to be packing wounds.

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retired cynic  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:34:02pm

re: #150 calochortus

Yup. I mean, I once removed some stitches from Mr. C. because he couldn’t reach them himself, and yeah, we saved a $25 co-pay, but it also saved a lot of time (driving to the dr., waiting, getting it done, driving home.) I’m not sure I’d want to be packing wounds.

Done it with horses. Could do it with a person. They don’t kick as hard.

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meteor  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:34:05pm
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coin operated  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:36:17pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

Between this and the ongoing feud with Mexico over NAFTA, I hope you mid-west farm boys are enjoying your votes for Trump.

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Kragar  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:36:43pm

re: #139 Belafon

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calochortus  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:40:07pm

re: #151 retired cynic

Done it with horses. Could do it with a person. They don’t kick as hard.

True. I’ve been kicked by a horse. Rather like being hit with a pile driver.

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whitebeach  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:43:12pm

My little contribution to the discussion over age-appropriateness in relationships: Within the limits of legality and without exploitation of one person or the other, I don’t see any reason to draw further lines. And I want to point out that it’s certainly not always older man/younger woman. My third serious lover was exactly twice my age (I was nineteen). And it wasn’t some Mrs. Robinson deal. We met in a philosophy class in college (after two kids and a divorce she was going back). There just wasn’t this sense of, wow, we’re different generations. We gave each other books, I liked the music she liked and vice versa, we both were pretty knowledgeable about things in general, got each other’s references. It lasted for eight or nine months until circumstances that won’t matter to any of you intervened, then we broke it off mutually and amiably. I moved to a distant state and never saw her again. I still think of her with great affection and pleasure in the memories, and if she’s still alive I hope and believe she feels the same.

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calochortus  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:48:31pm

I’m going to say goodnight.
Hasta mañana, Lizards.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 10, 2017 • 8:58:25pm

Veteran’s Day is closing, and the real Armistice Day is about to begin. This group, which did a powerful song about the D-Day landings, also has done a memorial to the Battle of Paschendaele. Note the text .

Police Dog Hogan - Devon Brigade

policedoghogan.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 10, 2017 • 9:43:17pm

re: #130 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m so glad I’m here at LGF.

Appreciate that Charles made this a home for sanity!

Thanks to Mr. Johnson from me as well, a home for a lonely liberal living in a vast land of wingnuts.


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