Samantha Bee’s Take on New Russian Bot Exposés: “For the Low, Low Price of $200, You Too Can Control the Fate of Any American Election”
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I just know you guys were wondering why Lisping Mike isn’t commenting about Louis CK. Wellllllllllll pic.twitter.com/qcgj0brTDM
— Josh Callahan (@Jschmuck2) November 11, 2017
Okay, just not getting the whole ‘whacking off in front of a woman’ thing.
1/3 One thing about Twitter: it exposes you to some of the absolute worst dregs of humanity, and all of these cretins want to flaunt …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 11, 2017
2/3 their sickness in your face. But that’s also deceptive, because the worst trolls and creeps are the loudest and most relentless. I …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 11, 2017
3/3 refuse to believe the gross image of humanity we get from Twitter is a true picture.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 11, 2017
Copied from the previous thread, which came to an end with this thread:
re: #305 Anymouse 🌹
My wife just posted her version of our walkout of the Veterans Day event we attended at Daily Kos.
ARRRGH! CLed the last thread.
And I have a hard time taking seriously the outrage from people screaming “age of consent” who think a three year old boy can identify as a girl and there’s nothing wrong there.
— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) November 11, 2017
Ummm the 3yo is initially identifying as a girl/boy, not consenting to being pawed at by a 30yo+ man. If you can’t understand that distinction, you need to delete your account. And probably any parental right you might hold. https://t.co/My2qbl9R7P
— Bubblehead II Wants Twiter to ban Nazis now! (@BubbleheadII) November 11, 2017
This is what 44 seconds of Republican senators not responding to questions about Roy Moore sounds like | Analysis by CNN’s Chris Cillizza https://t.co/UjrztCYHTH pic.twitter.com/8iDaBN4jEX
— CNN (@CNN) November 10, 2017
So on the topic of the thread itself, what new bot exposés are meant? I apparently have no idea what the hell is going on.
re: #6 Bubblehead II
ARRRGH! CLed the last thread.
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So basically “I hate how liberals see gender identity I.e I’m gonna to defend a pedo.” GFY Erick.
re: #9 HappyWarrior
So basically “I hate how liberals see gender identity I.e I’m gonna to defend a pedo.” GFY Erick.
Hey, like I said last night, pedophilia is no big thing to these guys as long as it’s not gay.
re: #10 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Hey, like I said last night, pedophilia is no big thing to these guys as long as it’s not gay.
That I think was their only objection to Milo.
There’s big GD difference between forcing a teenager into sex as a grown ass man and accepting a child’s choice of gender identity at an early age. Erick goddamn knwos that.
re: #7 gocart mozart
Fish Lips isn’t a senator. Never mind, I just noticed Cohn is on the right, too.
re: #12 HappyWarrior
That I think was their only objection to Milo.
I’m not joking. These guys think there’s nothing wrong with being attracted to young girls… they’re girls, after all. But being attracted to boys, well, now you’re in deep shit, son. That’s an unforgivable sin according to the Wingnut Bible.
re: #15 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
I’m not joking. These guys think there’s nothing wrong with being attracted to young girls… they’re girls, after all. But being attracted to boys, well, now you’re in deep shit, son. That’s an unforgivable sin according to the Wingnut Bible.
Oh I know you’re not.
re: #1 Charles Johnson
I can’t fathom how someone would have such a twisted idea of “dating”. It’s about power, it’s about control, it’s about objectying women.
And it’s happening way too much in our culture.
re: #17 Eclectic Cyborg
I can’t fathom how someone would have such a twisted idea of “dating”. It’s about power, it’s about control, it’s about objectying women.
And it’s happening way too much in our culture.
This is the MRA’s idea of dating.
I’d feel wrong if I asked a college undergrad out. A high school girl? Are you frigging kidding me. You’re talking about someone who wasn’t even in grade school when I finished high school. Moore’s a creep and his enablers are even worse.
re: #4 Charles Johnson
The election, Trumps actions, the tax screw job and all these sex crimes from familiar faces. I can’t remember ever being more cynical about the inhumanity of the humans that make the big money, become the powerful stars, directors, CEO’s. POTUS. Gah. As was wisely pointed out downstairs, every one of these cretins did major damage to numerous lives. So much has come out it’s sickening. But what we all have not yet come to terms with yet is just the surface is being scratched. I don’t trust the depth or longevity of this recent awareness. I’ll be more impressed when the shift manager at the convenience store won’t leer at the young employee looking for a day off or a shift change. Long ways to go.
I love how the one GOP dude was talking about the age gap between Mary and Joseph as if NOTHING HAS FUCKING CHANGED in the past 2000 years.
re: #9 HappyWarrior
So basically “I hate how liberals see gender identity I.e I’m gonna to defend a pedo.” GFY Erick.
Conservatives like Erik see the erosion of traditional gender norms as so personally threatening that they conflate that perception with some undefined harm to the child. When in fact it is the shame and punishment involved in the enforcement of conformity that he advocates for which actually results in the death of so many trans and non-binary kids.
The guy with the great “punching nazis” bit did this Trumpless Correspondence Dinner
My full set from #WHCD: https://t.co/6JSzqLgKZe
— Hasan Minhaj (@hasanminhaj) April 30, 2017
re: #18 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
This is the MRA’s idea of dating.
MRAs just need to buy Fleshlights and stop bothering women.
re: #24 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
MRAs just need to buy Fleshlights and stop bothering women.
Spot on. I would be perfectly content if they went off and fucked themselves.
re: #21 Eclectic Cyborg
I love how the one GOP dude was talking about the age gap between Mary and Joseph as if NOTHING HAS FUCKING CHANGED in the past 2000 years.
I’m no theologian but wasn’t Mary and Joseph’s relationship well non-sexual. And yeah things do change even if you do believe that story to be 100% true. Don’t any of these guys have teenage daughters? Or care? The worst response though by far was that one guy who said Moore’s accusers ought to be tried. That’s some Taliban shit there.
re: #19 HappyWarrior
For me honestly it’s a maturity thing. Most 18 to 22 year olds just wouldn’t be a good match for me on an intellectual and experience level.
If I were suddenly single again the youngest I’d date is probably 26/27 (I’m 36).
re: #19 HappyWarrior
I’d feel wrong if I asked a college undergrad out. A high school girl? Are you frigging kidding me. You’re talking about someone who wasn’t even in grade school when I finished high school. Moore’s a creep and his enablers are even worse.
I like a rule a late 40’s friend has. No younger than half his age plus ten.
re: #27 Eclectic Cyborg
For me honestly it’s a maturity thing. Most 18 to 22 year olds just wouldn’t be a good match for me on an intellectual and experience level.
If I were suddenly single again the youngest I’d date is probably 26/27 (I’m 36).
I’m 30. I think the youngest I’d date right now would be 22. Someone soon or about to be out of college. My parents have a eight year gap. Mom was a senior when they met I believe.
re: #28 Unshaken Defiance
I like a rule a late 40’s friend has. No younger than half his age plus ten.
To be honest, a teenage girl aside from being wrong wouldn’t be fun. Someone close to my age, we would have a lot of the same experiences.
re: #28 Unshaken Defiance
I like a rule a late 40’s friend has. No younger than half his age plus ten.
The standard “Creepiness Rule” I’ve heard is half your age plus seven. It converges at around 15 years old, whereas the +10 rule converges around 19 years old.
re: #19 HappyWarrior
I’d feel wrong if I asked a college undergrad out. A high school girl? Are you frigging kidding me. You’re talking about someone who wasn’t even in grade school when I finished high school. Moore’s a creep and his enablers are even worse.
I’m 44 and I’d feel weird if I asked someone under 35 out. There’s a point where the gap in shared cultural experience becomes a real long term relationship roadblock.
re: #32 goddamnedfrank
I’m 44 and I’d feel weird if I asked someone under 35 out. There’s a point where the gap in shared cultural experience becomes a real long term relationship roadblock.
Absolutely.
Man says to me today-All these old allegations? Why wait?
“Remember all those famous guys getting jailed or fired or scorned for abusing their power sexually or anyway at all in back then?”
“No” he says. “Me neither” says I “what does that tell you?”
The rush of Senate Republicans coming out quickly to denounce Roy Moore is convincing Moore supporters that this is a coordinated hit job
— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) November 9, 2017
if this guy is an upper-tier thinker in your movement your movement is in trouble https://t.co/TTe1mmiw6t
— Owen Ellickson (@onlxn) November 9, 2017
Sadly, people like Erick Erickson really are about as good as the conservative movement gets in 2017. https://t.co/0rXiKwT0wn
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 11, 2017
re: #26 HappyWarrior
Well it was sexual at some point because Jesus had other siblings, but the principal difference between now and then is:
1. Women didn’t have careers, they bore the children and looked after the home while the men worked.
2. Life spans were a LOT shorter and medicine was much less advanced. Marrying women off young guaranteed fertility and the continuance of the human race. In addition, if an average person had 6 children they’d be doing good if 3 of them saw adulthood. There was no choice but to procreate at a high rate given the realities of the time and the MUCH higher childhood mortality rate.
re: #35 Charles Johnson
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Yeah, in a just world, Erick would be worst of the worst but he’s “fairly sane.”
I have no rules of thumb on age gaps.
It’s the people involved that matter. If both parties are consenting adults, it’s up to them. It’s the two adults in the relationship that are either going to make it work or break it.
re: #36 Eclectic Cyborg
Well it was sexual at some point because Jesus had other siblings, but the principal difference between now and then is:
1. Women didn’t have careers, they bore the children and looked after the home while the men worked.
2. Life spans were a LOT shorter and medicine was much less advanced. Marrying women off young guaranteed fertility and the continuance of the human race. In addition, if an average person had 6 children they’d be doing good if 3 of them saw adulthood. There was no choice but to procreate at a high rate given the realities of the time and the MUCH higher childhood mortality rate.
True, true. It’s such a shitty defense in any case because as you say 2000 years ago.
I’m so old I remember when Erick Erickson tried to pose as a “sane anti-Trump conservative”—and some people actually believed it.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 11, 2017
re: #32 goddamnedfrank
I’m 44 and I’d feel weird if I asked someone under 35 out. There’s a point where the gap in shared cultural experience becomes a real long term relationship roadblock.
I mean, if you want it to be, sure.
re: #35 Charles Johnson
Erick is as much of a crackpot as Moore. He likes his lawlessness, and bigotry, so he’s willing to let the kiddy-fiddling slide.
— The site has a Nazi problem, and Jack does nothing (@FurlingtonJeff) November 11, 2017
re: #7 gocart mozart
Don’t know which is worse, the dumb ass reporters screaming over each or the smug bastards sitting at the table smiling.
On an OT note but an old friend who works at the State Department posted a story about how Tillerson is offering buyouts to cut staff. What in the hell.
re: #38 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I have no rules of thumb on age gaps.
It’s the people involved that matter. If both parties are consenting adults, it’s up to them. It’s the two adults in the relationship that are either going to make it work or break it.
Hear, hear. I was 26 and my husband 46 when we got married. Lasted until he died at 88. Let’s leave the moralizing for non-adults.
re: #45 retired cynic
Hear, hear. I was 26 and my husband 46 when we got married. Lasted until he died at 88. Let’s leave the moralizing for non-adults.
I’m honestly not trying to moralize. Just a personal preference.
I’m 46, and I honestly don’t think I could date anyone younger than 36. Seriously, being able to have a conversation is important to me.
re: #46 HappyWarrior
I’m honestly not trying to moralize. Just a personal preference.
I understand, but I refuse to believe that our relationship was creepy, or that we lacked shared cultural experiences.
re: #44 HappyWarrior
On an OT note but an old friend who works at the State Department posted a story about how Tillerson is offering buyouts to cut staff. What in the hell.
Dude who works for the Russians wants to kill America’s ability to act against Russian interests. Damnedest thang.
re: #47 Ace Rothstein
I’m 46, and I honestly don’t think I could date anyone younger than 36. Seriously, being able to have a conversation is important to me.
You know, we talked for over 40 years! This convo is bothering me.
Can I just say how awesome it is to see people waking up to the sexual harassment and abuse women have been suffering for years at the hands of rich, powerful men? Way overdue.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 11, 2017
re: #48 retired cynic
I understand, but I refuse to believe that our relationship was creepy, or that we lacked shared cultural experiences.
Okay absolutely fair enough. Deeply sorry if I offended.
re: #50 retired cynic
I’m only stating my personal preference, and of course there are always exceptions. I’m not judging anyone except Roy Moore who is a creepy old fuck. I apologize if my earlier comment came across the wrong way.
re: #49 scottslemmons
Dude who works for the Russians wants to kill America’s ability to act against Russian interests. Damnedest thang.
Yep. It’s messed up.
re: #44 HappyWarrior
On an OT note but an old friend who works at the State Department posted a story about how Tillerson is offering buyouts to cut staff. What in the hell.
Rachel had a great mono last night about “Why?” regarding all the State Dept. shit last night.
re: #56 Ace Rothstein
Rachel had a great mono last night about “Why?” regarding all the State Dept. shit last night.
There’s so much crap going on that we sometimes miss it. My brother alerted me about the Trump DOJ trying to stop a merger and force CNN out. I believe we sorta talked it about earlier because Murdoch wants to buy CNN. That guy in control of CNN and FNC would be awful.
re: #58 HappyWarrior
“Awful” is being way too nice.
I just went back and read the E-mail from my brother-in-law I posted to Daily Kos after the Dumpster fire of a speech that wingnut gave at our Memorial Day service at our village cemetery.
I am crying again. That E-mail two years later still makes me cry.
Forgive me whilst I take a break and compose myself.
James O’Keefe Is Fighting His Insurance Company
Why would anyone insure a fraud with a history of deception and defamation against lawsuits? The man is a walking liability.
re: #62 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
James O’Keefe Is Fighting His Insurance Company
Why would anyone insure a fraud with a history of deception and defamation against lawsuits? The man is a walking liability.
You know the vig insurance companies get?
re: #58 HappyWarrior
There’s so much crap going on that we sometimes miss it. My brother alerted me about the Trump DOJ trying to stop a merger and force CNN out. I believe we sorta talked it about earlier because Murdoch wants to buy CNN. That guy in control of CNN and FNC would be awful.
It would be good news for MSNBC, but terrible for the country.
re: #56 Ace Rothstein
Rachel had a great mono last night about “Why?” regarding all the State Dept. shit last night.
In my email alerts this morning (China time) was this Guardian article about Trump lambasting the entire APEC assembly about how they supposedly have cheated the USA in trade.
He included “GYYNA” in that group, just days after he was kissing Xi Jinping’s ass in Beijing. And Tillerson tried to paint over Trump’s bellicosity, but it was too little, too late.
Trump has sunk US relations with Asian countries, probably for decades, maybe forever. China will step in to fill the void, especially as we now have no functioning State Department to ameliorate the damage done.
I am old enough to remember when Trump ran on being TOUGH on China.
CHINA VISIT: President Trump Praised As “UNCLE TRUMP”, “GRAND COMMANDER” and “DONALD THE STRONG” https://t.co/xNkIrbvOJY
— Bill Mitchell (@mitchellvii) November 11, 2017
Another chapter in China’s version of GamerGate.
In fairness @make, Dale’s supporters are making some really excellent points, what kind of Gooked faced Thai tranny Chink does have English this good? pic.twitter.com/1sz63UgxdC
— Naomi Wu (@RealSexyCyborg) November 10, 2017
To put all this in context, a few weeks ago, Naomi Wu criticized a US-based maker (digital hobbyist) convention for not having any female makers as presenters. Things went rapidly downhill from there.
re: #66 bratwurst
I am old enough to remember when Trump ran on being TOUGH on China.
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Everyone has caught on to how to deal with Trump. “Ooooh, Donald, you’re so manly and great!” (steals wallet)
re: #66 bratwurst
I am old enough to remember when Trump ran on being TOUGH on China.
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Mitchell is even stupider than I thought.
re: #62 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
James O’Keefe Is Fighting His Insurance Company
Why would anyone insure a fraud with a history of deception and defamation against lawsuits? The man is a walking liability.
This was my first thought. Not sure what insurance would cover intentional bad acts.
re: #66 bratwurst
I am old enough to remember when Trump ran on being TOUGH on China.
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They know how to manipulate the narcissist. You should find it disturbing, unless you’re as brainwashed as a North Korean.
— The site has a Nazi problem, and Jack does nothing (@FurlingtonJeff) November 11, 2017
re: #65 wheat-dogg
In my email alerts this morning (China time) was this Guardian article about Trump lambasting the entire APEC assembly about how they supposedly have cheated the USA in trade.
He included “GYYNA” in that group, just days after he was kissing Xi Jinping’s ass in Beijing. And Tillerson tried to paint over Trump’s bellicosity, but it was too little, too late.
Trump has sunk US relations with Asian countries, probably for decades, maybe forever. China will step in to fill the void, especially as we now have no functioning State Department to ameliorate the damage done.
And even worse, neither Trump nor anybody else in the Administration seems to have even the least glimmer of any sort of alternative policy to propose: insult and bluster might make for good mentions in the RW press ( the MSM will probably ignore it) but sooner or later (likely sooner) somebody is going have to come up with some sort of concrete proposal to deal with the supposed “cheating”. - and short of a tariff war (which the US, despite its enormous market, is unlikely to win), it’s hard to see what “we”, I.e. this idiot regime can do.
re: #66 bratwurst
CHINA VISIT: President Trump Praised As “UNCLE TRUMP”, “GRAND COMMANDER” and “DONALD THE STRONG” https://t.co/xNkIrbvOJY
— Bill Mitchell (@mitchellvii) November 11, 2017
Its almost like the Chinese realize Trump and his followers are morons https://t.co/Sb50hlbM8D
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) November 11, 2017
My wife just made the recommended list at Daily Kos, her first time on the list.
BIG ANNOUNCEMENT:
Pointing to cold weather as evidence against climate change season has arrived!
The warming that led to the cooling… pic.twitter.com/fBZZFUTJrw
— MATT DRUDGE (@DRUDGE) November 11, 2017
re: #66 bratwurst
I am old enough to remember when Trump ran on being TOUGH on China.
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There is no question that Xi and the Party bent over backwards to stroke Trump’s ego. The media here (Party controlled, all of them) have depicted Trump mostly in a positive light, which translates into the public believing him to be some kind of honorable leader. At the same time, people get to watch Xi Jinping out-maneuver Trump, as (I believe) it’s an “open secret” here that Trump is a dolt, all bark and no bite.
Women are endlessly harassed in the workplace, on the streets, and online. Call them out when it happens, or at least find their mom and message her so she can have a chat with him on your behalf. 😉 pic.twitter.com/ffOHZ4G4aS
— Anne Wheaton (@AnneWheaton) November 10, 2017
re: #74 Anymouse 🌹
My wife just made the recommended list at Daily Kos, her first time on the list.
Mazel Tov! Hope my recc and upding helped!
re: #75 bratwurst
BIG ANNOUNCEMENT:
Pointing to cold weather as evidence against climate change season has arrived!
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How can their be global warming if I have to put on a coat to go outside? Check mate, libtard!
POLL: Can the Republican Party claim to be the party of values and morals?
— Peter Daou (@peterdaou) November 10, 2017
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re: #75 bratwurst
BIG ANNOUNCEMENT:
Pointing to cold weather as evidence against climate change season has arrived!
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It’s 13 degrees F (-10.6 degrees C) in the wild north country tonight. But global warming is still real. Go fuck yourselves, wingnuts.
re: #78 Jay C
Mazel Tov! Hope my recc and upding helped!
My wife thanks the Lizard Academy, her mother, &c.
re: #82 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
It’s 13 degrees F (-10.6 degrees C) in the wild north country tonight. But global warming is still real. Go fuck yourselves, wingnuts.
It’s fifty degrees in the Nebraska Panhandle.
It should be below freezing this time of night.
The GOP would like us to believe that grabbing pussy is ok. That touching a 14 yr old’s vagina is ok. That there is no difference betw
good or bad.That there is only winning or losing.
ITS NOT OK! YOU HEAR ME MUTHAFUCKAS?
NOT OK!— Ron Perlman (@perlmutations) November 11, 2017
re: #86 Kragar
Ron Perlman showing how to rock 280 in style.
Tillerson continues slashing State despite bipartisan protest https://t.co/k6rY0EoezG
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) November 11, 2017
This is inexcusable and, no matter how many times it is explained, inexplicable. https://t.co/sTSw4VBa4t
— Samantha Power (@SamanthaJPower) November 11, 2017
Unfortunately not inexplicable. He’s doing what Trump wants him to do. https://t.co/R2txu5iKNK
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 11, 2017
re: #88 Charles Johnson
Enemies both foreign and domestic wanted Trump in office so he’d cripple our government. It’s working.
— The site has a Nazi problem, and Jack does nothing (@FurlingtonJeff) November 11, 2017
re: #88 Charles Johnson
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Doing what Bannon wants him to do. Bannon told everyone - the goal is the deconstruction of the state, the dismantling of the United States government. Trump wants nothing except praise and the pleasure of being cruel to people. Bannon has much larger goals.
re: #3 Blind Frog Belly White
Okay, just not getting the whole ‘whacking off in front of a woman’ thing.
Me neither. As a fetish it seems really weird to me, in fact about the ultimate in de-humanizing (so how the hell did they get away with it so long?), and personally I cannot imagine doing it. People are strange but then I am a people too.
re: #67 wheat-dogg
This looks rather vicious to me….
Lizards. Going to call it night. Off for the next week or so to tend to the Mate. She had to have a biopsy (came back clear), but the opening isn’t healing as well as it should. So I get to go and learn how to properly unpack and pack a puncture wound. This is not going to be fun.
This vid is of a leg wound. Her is is a belly wound. WARNING! NOT FOR THE WEAK OF STOMACH Procedure is the same though.
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One of the things I am going to ask for (if possible) is some Lidocaine to soak the 1st couple of inches in to deaden the the pain of the last 6 inches going in.
And before you ask, no, the office calls to have this done twice daily are not (fully) covered by insurance for some reason.
re: #94 Bubblehead II
Lizards. Going to call it night. Off for the next week or so to tend to the Mate. She had to have a biopsy (came back clear), but the opening isn’t healing as well as it should. So I get to go and learn how to properly unpack and pack a puncture wound. This is not going to be fun.
This vid is of a leg wound. Her is is a belly wound. WARNING! NOT FOR THE WEAK OF STOMACH Procedure is the same though.
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And before you ask, no, the office calls to have this done twice daily are not (fully) covered by insurance for some reason.
Please tell her we are thinking of her. And you, too!
re: #94 Bubblehead II
{{{Bubblehead and Mate}}}
Sorry to hear that. I hope you and the Mate are okay. I’ll send prayers and positive vibes, and unlike the “thoughts and prayers” group, if there’s anything concrete I can do to be of assistance, just drop me a private message and I’ll get it eventually and respond.
[Bubblehead and Bubblehead mate]
My wife had to go through that a few years ago. My sympathies, and I hope everything works out well.
re: #94 Bubblehead II
Best of luck to you both.
…
I feel woozy just reading that.
Completely OT, but my Samsung was breaking down so I just got an iPhone se. Should I update to iOS 11.1.1? I only have the lowest memory (32) phone.
re: #94 Bubblehead II
And before you ask, no, the office calls to have this done twice daily are not (fully) covered by insurance for some reason.
Now THAT really sucks - because it should be covered.
re: #93 The Major
This looks rather vicious to me….
Combining racism, misogyny, and tech-bro arrogance — yeah. She’s become the latest target of insecure man-boys.
Why are all the allegations coming out now?
One reason, only one, is that now he is in both a powerful and vulnerable position with nationwide attention. at least some other people will listen.
If he was still mostly a nobody, then moslty nobody else would hear about it …and those locally, well you can already see their reaction
re: #94 Bubblehead II
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The E-mail my brother-in-law wrote me a couple years ago when this wingnut spoke at our village’s Memorial Day remembrance. Reading it two years later it still made me cry.
Good Morning James,
Today I honor you. You and your family have been fighting a war without end for many years now. that war is against sorrow. We consider this day a memorial to our soldiers and sailors and airmen who have died in the service of our nation. Instead it is a day when I shed a tear about all of the things that never happened.
I think of a young boy [reference to me] who grew up without a father to teach him how to throw a baseball. I think of a young wife [reference to my Navy veteran mother] who lost her first love, and a daughter [reference to my Army veteran sister] who never had a dad try to braid her hair.
I think of families who forever had their futures changed and who always have an empty place at their dinner table. Holidays are always bittersweet for these veterans of sorrow. The pain is always there, but scar tissue grows around the injury in their souls and allows them to move onward with their disrupted lives, though in the quiet hours of the night, each of these family members has to deal with the unanswered questions of what could have, and what should have been.
When your father’s plane went down, I know his last thoughts were of you and your mom and sister. His sacrifice for our nation cannot be compensated, what he lost is all that a man can hold dear, his life and all that he loved. And each of you, his family also gave our nation something immeasurable in that moment, you lost a piece of yourself and the universe changed as so many possible futures were lost.
I am honored and privileged to know and love you, and to have you as a part of my family.
re: #48 retired cynic
I understand, but I refuse to believe that our relationship was creepy, or that we lacked shared cultural experiences.
When I was 42 I dated someone 17 years younger than me. We had some significant experiences in common as highly educated immigrants (she from Russia, me from Britain) but I think the fact is that when I saw her, first sight, I saw her as a peer — a very attractive peer. Long-term it didn’t work out, but we were both considering it. Life would have been very different with her and probably we are both better off apart. But these things definitely do happen! And nothing wrong with that. And sorry about your loss. Forty years sounds pretty good to me.
re: #50 retired cynic
I hope I did not add to your discomfort. I can’t get Roy Moore or the old Duck Dynasty gray beard talking about 14 and 16 year olds marrying so young out of my head.
Pick the Perv (Goes to Juanita Jean’s)
CNN has a video of Republican leaders being questioned about Roy Moore. It’s 44 seconds of them smiling, chuckling, gesturing, and waving off any questions about Moore. I don’t know how to embed CNN videos here so you’re going to have to follow this link to see it. (It’s the second video on the page.)
It’s disgusting.
Even more disgusting is the fact that it looks like a pervert line-up. All these old, white, Republican men thinking this whole thing is funny.
Wipe that smile off your face, McConnell.
re: #95 retired cynic
re: #96 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
re: #97 Anymouse 🌹
Thanks everyone. Have to admit I was kinda blasi (siq) about doing it until it really hit me just what it was I actually had to do. The brakes went on and I told the Mate that we WERE NOT going to do this until I had some training from a qualified professional. If s/he feels I am incapable of doing it, well, we’ll figure out how to proceed from there. I think I can do it. Just need the proper training. It still scares the shit out of me. Probably why I was a Electronics Tech Tech instead of a medic.
Electronics don’t feel pain.
re: #108 Anymouse 🌹
Pick the Perv (Goes to Juanita Jean’s)
I bet they’d all feel comfortable talking about what health care women need.
re: #99 Barefoot Grin
Completely OT, but my Samsung was breaking down so I just got an iPhone se. Should I update to iOS 11.1.1? I only have the lowest memory (32) phone.
If you are connected to wifi regularly the phone will eventually update whether you want it to or not. I haven’t heard of any major issues updating to 11.1.1. I would go ahead and do it if I were you.
re: #106 petesh
There is a bit of a difference in perception of seventeen years.
A person aged seventy dating a person aged fifty-three: Not such a deal.
A person thirty-one “dating” a person fourteen? NOPE NOPE NOPE.
re: #102 dangerman
Why are all the allegations coming out now?
One reason, only one, is that now he is in both a powerful and vulnerable position with nationwide attention. at least some other people will listen.
If he was still mostly a nobody, then moslty nobody else would hear about it …and those locally, well you can already see their reaction
Coming out now because of Harvey Weinstein. Otherwise there would continue to be silence about Kevin Spacey, Louis C. K. et al
re: #111 Eclectic Cyborg
If you are connected to wifi regularly the phone will eventually update whether you want it to or not. I haven’t heard of any major issues updating to 11.1.1. I would go ahead and do it if I were you.
Mine won’t. It asks me if I want to do any updating. Perhaps this is a newer thing, but it is what I always liked about Apple. It asked first. Windows would catch me at the wrong time, always, and I was not familiar enough with the interface to know what to do. So now I run Windows programs in Parallels.
re: #112 Anymouse 🌹
There is a bit of a difference in perception of seventeen years.
A person aged seventy dating a person aged fifty-three: Not such a deal.
A person thirty-one “dating” a person fourteen? NOPE NOPE NOPE.
Abbott and costello
You’re 40, she’s 10….
re: #113 Hecuba’s daughter
Coming out now because of Harvey Weinstein. Otherwise there would continue to be silence about Kevin Spacey, Louis C. K. et al
That too certainly
If the GOP allows Roy Moore to run, they’ve made a choice.
If Alabama elects Roy Moore, they’ve made a choice.
If the Senate allows him to sit, they’ve made a choice.
This all happens this year.
And will be remembered next year.#RoyMoore— Steve Marmel (@Marmel) November 11, 2017
re: #22 goddamnedfrank
Conservatives like Erik see the erosion of traditional gender norms as so personally threatening that they conflate that perception with some undefined harm to the child. When in fact it is the shame and punishment involved in the enforcement of conformity that he advocates for which actually results in the death of so many trans and non-binary kids.
Given my own life experience with how personally people take gender norms, I’d add to the tally a bunch more foreshortened lives. Since it’s not like these fuckers stint themselves when handing down ruling on who gets bullied for being queer.
re: #15 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
I’m not joking. These guys think there’s nothing wrong with being attracted to young girls… they’re girls, after all. But being attracted to boys, well, now you’re in deep shit, son. That’s an unforgivable sin according to the Wingnut Bible.
So we’ve gone from “a dead girl or a live boy” to a boy, period. Crossing the line at boys. Girls don’t matter.
re: #100 The Major
Now THAT really sucks - because it should be covered.
Yeah, it’s weird. Everything, but the office call itself is covered. $35.00 a pop. Sounds cheap, but $280.00 a month soon drains the resources. And if the Mitch and Paul get their way, it’s only going to get worse.
re: #115 dangerman
Not unless I come from the mountains…
re: #96 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
{{{Bubblehead and Mate}}}
Sorry to hear that. I hope you and the Mate are okay. I’ll send prayers and positive vibes, and unlike the “thoughts and prayers” group, if there’s anything concrete I can do to be of assistance, just drop me a private message and I’ll get it eventually and respond.
Amen and ditto. I’m here if I can be.
This is the logic that will lead a majority of Republicans in Alabama to vote for Moore. pic.twitter.com/5Fdmm90Thd
— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) November 11, 2017
Republicans to kids: “You’re on your own. Here’s a gun.”
FYI - and you can ask several others of the Lizardim if you wish - that offer is open to anyone. If you need help, drop me a line. I’m not rich, I have bills that need paying, but I am well-off enough to afford to be generous, and I will help a lizard in need if no one else can. You guys have been there when I needed you, and I always return a favor.
re: #110 Belafon
“I bet they’d all feel comfortable talking about what health care women need.”
What really, really, pisses me off about men like them is the way they’re always trying to get into our pants while at the same time they’re writing bills and passing laws governing what we can/cannot do with our own bodies. If we treated them this way, they’d be all kinds of outraged, and when we make public the things that they’re doing it to us, they claim we’re lying or that there’s a political motive behind it. They know they’re doing this sh*t to women [and some men] behind the scenes while in their public personas they’re acting holier than thou. They’re as fake as a six dollar bill.
re: #103 Renaissance_Man
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The Islamophobes of the Iranian diaspora won’t like the news of this:
Really interesting piece on the Pahlavi Dynasty’s relationship with Islam and the clergy, with some great… https://t.co/sSr8vhdSwH
— Alex Shams (@seyyedreza) November 10, 2017
And you refuse to tell the truth about this—Tillerson is doing precisely what his pal Putin wants!
— josephebacon 🌹 (@josephebacon) November 11, 2017
re: #124 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
“FYI - and you can ask several others of the Lizardim if you wish - that offer is open to anyone. If you need help, drop me a line. I’m not rich, I have bills that need paying, but I am well-off enough to afford to be generous, and I will help a lizard in need if no one else can. You guys have been there when I needed you, and I always return a favor.”
Same here. Just let me know.
I’m so glad I’m here at LGF.
Appreciate that Charles made this a home for sanity!
For a smile.
— ObamaPlusKids (@ObamaPlusKids) November 10, 2017
re: #125 majii
“I bet they’d all feel comfortable talking about what health care women need.”
What really, really, pisses me off about men like them is the way they’re always trying to get into our pants while at the same time they’re writing bills and passing laws governing what we can/cannot do with our own bodies. If we treated them this way, they’d be all kinds of outraged, and when we make public the things that they’re doing it to us, they claim we’re lying or that there’s a political motive behind it. They know they’re doing this sh*t to women [and some men] behind the scenes while in their public personas they’re acting holier than thou. They’re as fake as a six dollar bill.
We’re property to them, so there’s no particular inconsistency, as they see it.
Well this took me a moment pic.twitter.com/a6o6SWAG4R
— Katie Mack (@AstroKatie) November 10, 2017
My new favorite popcorn gif:
How about this? (My fav) pic.twitter.com/pdCfz1InXV
— CountryBeforeParty🇺🇸🗽 (@ArtistLynneM) November 10, 2017
Mike Ortiz says he dated Corfman (Roy Moore’s accuser) for 2 years around 2009.
He says during that time, she told him about a sexual encounter w/ Moore when she was young.
Again: Moore calls these claims “completely false & a desperate political attack.”#ALSen pic.twitter.com/T9iCDiIkJr— Lauren Walsh (@LaurenWalshTV) November 10, 2017
Alabama TV reporter with another corroborating account: https://t.co/HDtbpwOU1w
— David Fahrenthold (@Fahrenthold) November 10, 2017
re: #135 Varek Raith
See, here’s the thing;
I need some plutonium.
KTHX.
No. My stockpile is my own. Get your own damn superweapons.
re: #126 Bubblehead II
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Lemon asks @EagleEdMartin: “Do you believe the women or do you believe Roy Moore?”
Ed: “I believe Roy Moore…this woman has multiple bankruptcies.”— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) November 11, 2017
Worth stressing: Roy Moore has not really denied Leigh Corfman’s factual claims. He denied “misconduct” - a matter of opinion. https://t.co/BRgK4BMfVs
— David Frum (@davidfrum) November 11, 2017
re: #139 Belafon
But if he’s a Trump fan, shouldn’t the multiple bankruptcies lend her credibility?
re: #109 Bubblehead II
Thanks everyone. Have to admit I was kinda blasi (siq) about doing it until it really hit me just what it was I actually had to do. The brakes went on and I told the Mate that we WERE NOT going to do this until I had some training from a qualified professional. If s/he feels I am incapable of doing it, well, we’ll figure out how to proceed from there. I think I can do it. Just need the proper training. It still scares the shit out of me. Probably why I was a Electronics Tech Tech instead of a medic.
I hope it all goes well for you and the Mate. But damn it, is there any other country in the advanced world where the spouse or significant other has to perform this kind of medical work, while the pros stand aside because … um, insurance? Even in the middle of the last freakin century this wouldn’t have happened. But we as a nation and as human beings have gone insane about what matters and what doesn’t.
ETA: Couple of wds for clarity.
Trump says U.S. won’t be ‘taken advantage of anymore,’ and hours later Pacific Rim nations reach deal on trade without U.S. buy-in https://t.co/H8RXGv2LdZ
— Post Politics (@postpolitics) November 11, 2017
re: #142 Charles Johnson
Sounds about right. Good timing. B*st*rd.
re: #142 Charles Johnson
Fucking isolationist prick.
re: #142 Charles Johnson
Trump has this absolutely stupid idea that the USA should strike individual deals with each country, rather than sign a multilateral agreement. Predictably, APEC nations have told him to fuck off, we’ll make our own agreement without you.
IOW, the great dealmaker shot himself (and the USA) in the foot.
I think this means Trump is meeting with Putin.
This what our APEC Summit photo coverage looks today in Da Nang Vietnam. Blank. No coverage by the White House Travel Pool photographers traveling with @realDonaldTrump #APEC2017 #apec pic.twitter.com/jFgsJW5OcO
— Doug Mills (@dougmillsnyt) November 11, 2017
re: #148 bratwurst
I think this means Trump is meeting with Putin.
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That means they met.
re: #141 whitebeach
I hope it all goes well for you and the Mate. But damn it, is there any other country in the advanced world where the spouse or significant other has to perform this kind of medical work, instead of having the pros stand aside because … um, insurance? Even in the middle of the last freakin century this wouldn’t have happened. But we as a nation and as human beings have gone insane about what matters and what doesn’t.
Yup. I mean, I once removed some stitches from Mr. C. because he couldn’t reach them himself, and yeah, we saved a $25 co-pay, but it also saved a lot of time (driving to the dr., waiting, getting it done, driving home.) I’m not sure I’d want to be packing wounds.
re: #150 calochortus
Yup. I mean, I once removed some stitches from Mr. C. because he couldn’t reach them himself, and yeah, we saved a $25 co-pay, but it also saved a lot of time (driving to the dr., waiting, getting it done, driving home.) I’m not sure I’d want to be packing wounds.
Done it with horses. Could do it with a person. They don’t kick as hard.
AACK AACK wheoooo WEET! AACK squeek-a ka-pow! ka-pow! CHIT CHIT *kiss* WEET! chit *kiss* *kiss* *kiss*
— Korben the Budgie (@korbenisabird) November 10, 2017
re: #142 Charles Johnson
Between this and the ongoing feud with Mexico over NAFTA, I hope you mid-west farm boys are enjoying your votes for Trump.
re: #139 Belafon
Lemon asks @EagleEdMartin: “Do you believe the women or do you believe Roy Moore?”
Ed: “I believe Roy Moore…this woman has multiple bankruptcies.”— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) November 11, 2017
Remember when a proven liar had 5 bankruptcies and the GOP nominated him to be President? https://t.co/1u57GxRpTX
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) November 11, 2017
re: #151 retired cynic
Done it with horses. Could do it with a person. They don’t kick as hard.
True. I’ve been kicked by a horse. Rather like being hit with a pile driver.
My little contribution to the discussion over age-appropriateness in relationships: Within the limits of legality and without exploitation of one person or the other, I don’t see any reason to draw further lines. And I want to point out that it’s certainly not always older man/younger woman. My third serious lover was exactly twice my age (I was nineteen). And it wasn’t some Mrs. Robinson deal. We met in a philosophy class in college (after two kids and a divorce she was going back). There just wasn’t this sense of, wow, we’re different generations. We gave each other books, I liked the music she liked and vice versa, we both were pretty knowledgeable about things in general, got each other’s references. It lasted for eight or nine months until circumstances that won’t matter to any of you intervened, then we broke it off mutually and amiably. I moved to a distant state and never saw her again. I still think of her with great affection and pleasure in the memories, and if she’s still alive I hope and believe she feels the same.
I’m going to say goodnight.
Hasta mañana, Lizards.
Veteran’s Day is closing, and the real Armistice Day is about to begin. This group, which did a powerful song about the D-Day landings, also has done a memorial to the Battle of Paschendaele. Note the text .
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Views: 253 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1- Pictures From Today’s Exhibition of Paintings Done by Jane LilienthalPROPS TO MICHELE AND SAGEHEN FOR CATCHING THE SPELLING ERROR IN THE TITLE THAT MY DIABETIC EYES COULDN'T CATCH I wanted to share pictures of the art show I visited today. The portraits were created by the mother of my ...
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March FavoritesYou've seen these all already but looking back, just because. These are my favorite shots of this last month. That 1937 Zeiss Sonnar is such a gloriously wonderful bit of glass. Thanks for looking.
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Russia’s New Combat Robots Blown Up by Drones Near Avdiivka When we landed on the moon, I thought about how science fiction had become real. Now, the robot wars have begun. It's more poignant somehow on the ground than in the missile wars we have in the air as ...
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Why Did More Than 1,000 People Die After Police Subdued Them With Force That Isn’t Meant to Kill? An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that, over a decade, more than 1,000 people died after police subdued them through physical holds, stun guns, body blows and other force not intended to be lethal. More: Why ... Cheechako
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Views: 511 • Comments: 1 • Rating: 5- A Closer Look at the Eastman State Bar DecisionTaking a few minutes away from work things to read through the Eastman decision. As I'm sure many of you know, Eastman was my law school con law professor. I knew him pretty well because I was also running in ...KGxvi
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Abortions Outside Medical System Increased Sharply After Roe Fell, Study Finds The number of women using abortion pills to end their pregnancies on their own without the direct involvement of a U.S.-based medical provider rose sharply in the months after the Supreme Court eliminated a constitutional right to abortion, according ... Cheechako
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Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ... Cheechako
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Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ... Cheechako
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